1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:23,620 I'm going to call the meeting to order. You want to do roll call? Commissioner Cardinus is absent. Commissioner Sue. Here. Commissioner Douglas. Here. Vice Chair Kirkpatrick. Here. Thank you. Okay. Lead us in the pledge of allegiance. Ready? 2 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:36,810 to the United States of America, and to the Republic of Russia's stands, one nation, 3 00:00:37,410 --> 00:00:41,350 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:43,210 Thank you very much. 5 00:00:47,930 --> 00:00:56,730 agenda. I so approve it, everybody in favour? All opposed? Okay, blue folder items. 6 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:03,610 I'm sorry, none. Public comments are non-agenda items. Any comments from the public? 7 00:01:06,730 --> 00:01:13,370 Okay, consent calendar, we have seven A approve affidavit of posting for the planning commission 8 00:01:13,370 --> 00:01:20,270 regular meeting of August 18th, 2026, seven B approved the minutes for the July 21st, 9 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:22,330 2026 planning commission meeting. 10 00:01:23,910 --> 00:01:27,050 Move to approve, seven A and B, second. 11 00:01:27,050 --> 00:01:29,710 Second. All right, all in favor? 12 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:30,230 Aye. 13 00:01:30,810 --> 00:01:31,370 Opposed? 14 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:31,830 Okay. 15 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:34,970 Excluded consent calendar to items. 16 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:35,950 There are none. 17 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:39,970 Public hearing on items continued from previous meeting. 18 00:01:40,330 --> 00:01:40,570 None. 19 00:01:41,330 --> 00:01:43,230 So we will move on to public hearings. 20 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:48,230 The first one is owning case number 2026-70. 21 00:01:48,990 --> 00:01:52,010 It's a lot of line adjustment for two Williamsburg Lane. 22 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,040 I'm going to have to accuse myself because I'm a neighbor. 23 00:02:02,790 --> 00:02:11,230 Yes, thank you chair and commissioners this first item before you this evening is a lot 24 00:02:11,230 --> 00:02:15,030 line adjustment for zoning case number two six dash 70. 25 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:20,290 It's a proposal to combine three lots into one larger lot with a combined gross area 26 00:02:20,290 --> 00:02:21,890 of 2.22 acres. 27 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:31,010 The property is zoned RAS-1 and within the OCD-1 overlay zone as shown by the location 28 00:02:31,010 --> 00:02:32,230 of the red star on this map. 29 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:40,810 The subject property is an irregularly shaped parcel zoned RAS-1 and has a total gross 30 00:02:40,810 --> 00:02:42,750 lot area of 2.22 acres. 31 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:48,970 It is located on the east side of Middle Ridge Road with frontages on Middle Ridge and Williamsburg. 32 00:02:48,970 --> 00:02:58,240 This map shows the proximity of the proposed residents and existing residents to the neighboring 33 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,060 residences. 34 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:09,440 This gives some background on the project. October 2025, a site plan review 35 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,600 application was filed by the applicant for two Williamsburg Lane. In January 2026, the 36 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:22,420 Planning Commission adopted a resolution approving zoning case 25-115, which granted a site plan 37 00:03:22,420 --> 00:03:24,400 and review and variances for new construction, 38 00:03:24,780 --> 00:03:26,960 non-exempt grading and related improvements. 39 00:03:27,980 --> 00:03:31,180 Then in March, 2026, the City Council received 40 00:03:31,180 --> 00:03:32,420 and filed that action. 41 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:37,460 Most recently on August 7th, 2026, 42 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,340 Will Dan's engineering team under contract with the city 43 00:03:40,340 --> 00:03:41,620 approved the legal descriptions 44 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:43,360 of the newly configured lots. 45 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:48,880 A little more project background, 46 00:03:49,060 --> 00:03:52,160 the Planning Commission approved a development project, 47 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,040 which you can see here on this site plan, it included a 900 square foot 48 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,280 addition conversion of some of the attached garage to living space, a new 49 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,520 basement area, and a new attached garage. The property at this site is 50 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,080 recorded as three separate lots which poses a risk that the project could cross 51 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,500 over the lot lines. The city's owning code prohibits such development and the 52 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:23,580 California building codes require that the construction use fire walls for structures 53 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:24,720 that do cross lines. 54 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,180 So in order to address this issue, the Planning Commission included a condition of approval 55 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,140 for this development project requiring that the applicant merge the three lots into a 56 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,480 single lot, and that's why we're here this evening. 57 00:04:39,610 --> 00:04:45,150 Here you can see the two lines in blue which are the existing lot lines that run through the 58 00:04:48,790 --> 00:05:02,370 The next slide here, although the city does not have an ordinance covering lot mergers, the Subdivision Map Act does allow a merger of four if you were contiguous parcels through a lot line adjustment. 59 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:16,770 So this specific lot line adjustment would move all lot lines so that each line is coterminous with each other in order to avoid additional requirements from the California building codes and the planning commission required this lot line adjustment. 60 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:18,790 prior to the issuance of a building permit. 61 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:23,170 The Planning Commission was making the following findings 62 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:25,590 when considering a lot line adjustment 63 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:27,950 as discussed in further detail in the staff report 64 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:30,110 these findings can be made for this project. 65 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,720 On August 6th, in advance of the Planning Commission meeting, 66 00:05:35,980 --> 00:05:37,640 public notices were sent to property owners 67 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,160 within a 1,000 foot radius and staff received no public comments 68 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,120 about this project. 69 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,200 The project was determined to be exempt from CEQA 70 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:54,280 under multiple sections and it is recommended that the Planning Commission open the public hearing, 71 00:05:54,620 --> 00:06:00,520 take public testimony and consider resolution number 2026-14 for approval. 72 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:02,340 This concludes staff's presentation. 73 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,920 Thank you very much. 74 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Any questions from the Planning Commission? 75 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:10,960 Oh, that's right, thank you Mr. Secretary. 76 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:12,720 I have a question. 77 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:29,240 So, when we were out there today, the representative from the association had indicated that they had walked the site and they were okay with doing away with the easements that run between the properties. 78 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,600 So, they've taken care of that. 79 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,380 That is correct. They have vacated their easements on the property. 80 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,580 Okay, sounds great. 81 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,940 So I'm going to open it up to the public. 82 00:06:41,940 --> 00:06:43,800 If you'd like to speak, please come up, 83 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:45,660 state your name so we can get it on the record. 84 00:06:53,690 --> 00:06:54,790 I have members of the commission. 85 00:06:54,970 --> 00:06:55,910 My name is Tyler Prasser. 86 00:06:56,310 --> 00:06:57,250 I am the project designer. 87 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:58,590 I work for the architect's office. 88 00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:00,990 Just wanted to say thank you for your time and consideration. 89 00:07:02,730 --> 00:07:05,530 Whitney's staff report was fairly comprehensive as always 90 00:07:05,530 --> 00:07:08,450 and it's got all the information that we need. 91 00:07:09,010 --> 00:07:09,990 Just wanted to say thanks again 92 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:11,270 and I'm here to answer any questions 93 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:13,790 questions that you might have beyond what we've already discussed. 94 00:07:14,410 --> 00:07:14,690 Thank you. 95 00:07:14,930 --> 00:07:15,170 Okay. 96 00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:15,790 Thank you. 97 00:07:16,450 --> 00:07:17,570 Any questions for him? 98 00:07:18,450 --> 00:07:18,650 Okay. 99 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:19,710 I think it's pretty straightforward. 100 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:20,430 But thank you. 101 00:07:22,830 --> 00:07:23,290 Okay. 102 00:07:23,590 --> 00:07:25,490 If you want to say something, you've got to come up. 103 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Judith Hainell, 31 Eastfield. 104 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,640 I just have a question about what kind of precedent this starts for other properties. 105 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,700 I'm not opposed to it in any way. 106 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,960 It's just a general question. 107 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:54,900 So it was hard to understand from that and all the pictures, is it, is it, is it, do they, 108 00:07:54,980 --> 00:08:02,100 they already own all of these separate lots? So are there buildings on all of these other lots? 109 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:06,210 I was just curious. 110 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:13,070 Yeah, let me chime in. So there are three lots, but only one of them currently has development on it. 111 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:19,250 But for tax purposes, the assessor's office considers all three lots a single property. 112 00:08:19,770 --> 00:08:25,650 So this is really an administrative process that we're doing to collapse those three 113 00:08:25,650 --> 00:08:28,330 lots into a single lot. 114 00:08:28,530 --> 00:08:35,390 And then are they looking to expand on within those, when those lots all become one, are they 115 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:36,270 looking to expand? 116 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:42,670 So part of the reason we're here tonight is the planning commission did approve a development 117 00:08:42,670 --> 00:08:48,470 to remodel the home late last year and one of the conditions of that approval was that 118 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:54,670 the owner had to come back and do this lot lane adjustment. So those additions don't cross 119 00:08:54,670 --> 00:09:00,090 any of those existing property lines but they're doing this out of an abundance of caution should a 120 00:09:00,090 --> 00:09:06,670 future property owner want to develop. Those two undevolved lots that are part of this property are 121 00:09:06,670 --> 00:09:12,630 are nearly unusable. They're very steep portions of property. 122 00:09:13,790 --> 00:09:17,130 Go down and you walk the property. You'll see that it's very steep. 123 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:23,530 The most of it is not developable. But there are easements that go between each parcel. 124 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:28,930 They're doing away with that. We like it when people make bigger lots. 125 00:09:29,330 --> 00:09:35,550 We don't like it when people subdivide and then they can put multiple homes on a property. 126 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:39,930 This is not a property that you would ever be able to fit a second home. 127 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:40,730 All right. 128 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:51,870 I mean, I don't get to meetings all the time, but I was just curious if there's this situation has come up much in the past where lots get combined and stuff and just had a curiosity. 129 00:09:52,030 --> 00:10:00,410 We've had over the years, I mean, as long as I've been involved, we've had some that have come up that have turned multiple lots into one lot. 130 00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:04,030 We've had some that have turned one lot into multiple lots. 131 00:10:04,030 --> 00:10:09,630 So, you know, and we look at each one on an individual basis to see if it makes sense to do so. 132 00:10:10,070 --> 00:10:11,530 Right. Okay. Okay. 133 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:14,610 Try not to set precedent that's going to be bad for the community. 134 00:10:15,010 --> 00:10:15,990 Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 135 00:10:16,430 --> 00:10:18,090 Appreciate it. Thanks. 136 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,600 Anyone else? Okay. I'm going to close this. We'll talk amongst ourselves. 137 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,500 I think it's pretty simple. 138 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:36,180 What we're doing is the right thing should have been cleaned up so I can kind of look at this as a maintenance issue. 139 00:10:38,260 --> 00:10:40,640 Okay, sounds great. Why don't you want to make a motion? 140 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:43,000 Move to approve, zoning case. 141 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:46,660 2026-70, is that correct? 142 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,720 24. 143 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Pardon? 144 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,720 26-14? 145 00:10:53,060 --> 00:10:54,160 Yeah, so for some reason. 146 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:55,900 No, that's the next one. 147 00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:59,870 Oh. 148 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:03,370 2026-7 is two Williamsburg. 149 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:04,630 Oh, I'm not apologies. 150 00:11:05,330 --> 00:11:05,450 Okay. 151 00:11:05,450 --> 00:11:10,750 Okay, so again, we should improve zoning case 2026-70. 152 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:12,390 Second. 153 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:14,250 Okay, you want to do roll call? 154 00:11:16,050 --> 00:11:16,850 Commissioner Douglas? 155 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:17,310 Yes. 156 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:18,470 Vice Chair Kirkpatrick. 157 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:19,390 Chair Chau. 158 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:19,750 Yes. 159 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:22,070 Thank you. 160 00:11:22,930 --> 00:11:24,210 Come back and join us. 161 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:30,840 Okay, the next one is 10B, zoning case number 2026-40. 162 00:11:31,580 --> 00:11:33,620 This is for seven out rider road. 163 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Should you give us an overview? 164 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:35,580 Thank you. 165 00:11:36,140 --> 00:11:36,840 Thank you. 166 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Sir Chair and commissioners, the second and last item before you is owning case number 167 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:50,460 26-40, a request for a site plan review to remodel and construct additions to a single 168 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:55,280 family residence and a variance request to designate a stable and corral set aside area in 169 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:55,920 the front yard. 170 00:11:57,460 --> 00:12:02,000 The property is zoned RAS-1 and located as shown by the red star on the map. 171 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,980 The 172 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:13,820 irregularly shaped parcel is located on the west side about writer road and it has a 30 foot wide roadway easement along the 173 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:18,520 frontage. The property also has 25 foot wide side and rear easements. 174 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,300 This proximity map shows the distance of the 175 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,580 residents to neighboring residences and 176 00:12:29,390 --> 00:12:39,750 this timeline gives a bit of background. Preliminary plans were submitted to staff back in April and the 177 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:43,150 until they submitted the official application in May. 178 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:47,890 The application was deemed complete in July, and we are here this evening. 179 00:12:50,590 --> 00:12:57,590 This is an existing site plan of the site. Some key features are in yellow as the existing footprint. 180 00:12:58,170 --> 00:13:03,410 You have a swimming pool, an existing shed, two car garage that's attached to the home, 181 00:13:04,190 --> 00:13:10,130 the driveway, and then I've added in their red dash line, which is the front setback line. 182 00:13:12,090 --> 00:13:19,170 The front yard of the property slopes down from the main building pad, excuse me, over 20 feet to outright a road below. 183 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:25,310 The lot was originally developed with a single family residence and attached garage in 1952. 184 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:28,610 Various additions and improvements have been made over the years. 185 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:36,390 There was a 120 square foot stable located in the front yard that was demolished at an unknown date. 186 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:45,780 And in 2007 the Planning Commission approved a site plan review and variance for this property 187 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:48,460 to construct a stable and corral in the front yard. 188 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:54,020 The property owners at that time never constructed this approved stable and corral, but it was 189 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:55,500 located in this area and red. 190 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:07,060 All right, here's the proposed site plan, which includes addition of new additions to the 191 00:14:07,060 --> 00:14:12,700 residents for a primary bedroom expansion and an attached ADU, conversion of some existing 192 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:19,460 interior space to an attached ADU, conversion of existing interior space for a third garage 193 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:27,220 stall, some construction of new attached covered porches, some minor grading for excavation 194 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:31,040 for the foundation and some various site improvements in landscaping. 195 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,820 As 196 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:45,220 proposed, the project conforms to the 35% lot cover, maximums, the 40% lot disturbance, maximum, and 30% building pad coverage guideline. 197 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:54,720 In addition, the new addition will have a slightly higher rich height than the existing residents, but is still well below the 21 foot maximum. 198 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,840 The slide. 199 00:14:59,060 --> 00:14:59,800 The next slide shows you. 200 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Do the existing and proposed floor plan proposed up top existing down below? The new additions are 201 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:15,560 towards the bottom of these floor plans. So in the bottom you can see that's flush kind of 202 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:21,660 along where the pool is and up above you can see the additions behind the garage and with the 203 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:22,780 primary residence there. 204 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:30,940 The next slide shows elevations of the rear and the front of the property. 205 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,080 In the rear there, you can see where the ADU would be constructed, the primary bedroom 206 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,020 edition and new covered porch, and in the front you can see the new garage door and the 207 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:43,060 higher roof ridge. 208 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Next slide shows the side elevations highlighted here, and a little bit darker outline are 209 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:58,300 the proposed additions, and these elevations do show the architectural design of the additions 210 00:15:59,180 --> 00:16:02,180 are compatible with the existing modern ranch style. 211 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:07,620 Variance is required for this project due to the proposed stable and 212 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:10,000 corral set aside area located in the front yard. 213 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,180 The shape, topography and easements of the lot constrain feasible locations for 214 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:17,560 stable and corral elsewhere on the property. 215 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,740 This is the code requirement for stable and corral site. 216 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:31,640 So our code does require each site, have an area developed with a set or 217 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,680 were developed or set aside area for stable and corral and in the event that a future stable 218 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,760 or coral area shown on a plan would require a variance that variance needs to be approved 219 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,400 at the same time. 220 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:49,650 And then right below there it has some code language about the setbacks so stables are 221 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:53,950 meant to be outside the front yard and no less than 25 feet from a side and rear property 222 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:54,230 line. 223 00:16:56,860 --> 00:17:01,020 So now this next slide here, one further please. 224 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:06,220 these. This shows some of those areas on the site plan. So in red you have the front 225 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:14,760 setback line. In blue you have the easement lines on the property. And in purple is an 226 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,100 approximately 35-foot buffer from the residents, which is a requirement of public health for 227 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:25,820 equestrian facilities to be at least 35 feet from residential structure. So you can see how 228 00:17:25,820 --> 00:17:32,440 All these constraints really do limit where the designated set-aside area could be located. 229 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,140 So in yellow here is the area that the applicant has proposed and locating this set-aside in 230 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:43,080 the front yard will take advantage of an existing secondary pad at this location, which was 231 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,700 previously used for an equestrian area. 232 00:17:49,890 --> 00:17:56,110 And on August 6th, in advance of this meeting, public notices were mailed out in a 1,000-foot 233 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:58,670 So, radius staff receive no written public comments. 234 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:04,910 Public comment was provided at the morning field trip by a neighboring resident at five 235 00:18:04,910 --> 00:18:09,590 outrider expressing some concern about development along the shared property line. 236 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:15,550 Staff confirmed that there's no currently no development proposed along the property line. 237 00:18:15,550 --> 00:18:20,650 It's all additions to the existing house, which is up on the primary building pad. 238 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:30,020 This project was deemed to be exempt from CEQA as new construction for single-family residents. 239 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:40,500 And with that, it's recommended that the Planning Commission open the public hearing, take public testimony, and consider resolution 2026-15 for approval. 240 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,160 This concludes staff's presentation. 241 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:44,880 Very much. Any questions? 242 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:54,510 So I have a question for you. You had mentioned that the new construction is going to have a higher rich line. 243 00:18:55,270 --> 00:19:02,610 So what is the existing rich line and what is that one piece that is going to be above the existing rich line? 244 00:19:03,170 --> 00:19:12,430 Yes, thank you for that question. So the new addition is about a foot and three inches above the existing 245 00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:16,670 Rage line in that area above the garage bringing the total 246 00:19:16,670 --> 00:19:21,010 Rage line at that location to 17 feet, but the majority of the 247 00:19:21,010 --> 00:19:24,430 existing roof ridge and the other portions of the house will 248 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:25,090 remain the same. 249 00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:29,390 Okay, so so the highest point is 17 correct. 250 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:33,730 And is that piece that's being raised is at the ADU? 251 00:19:34,890 --> 00:19:38,210 That is the garage and a part of the ADU. 252 00:19:40,550 --> 00:19:43,870 Okay. Thank you very much. That answers my question. 253 00:19:45,690 --> 00:19:52,010 Okay. I am going to open it up to the public. If you'd like to speak, would love to hear from you. Please come up and state your name. 254 00:19:56,650 --> 00:20:01,770 I know what's going on. Okay. You've got to come up and state your name for the record. I've got to get it on the record. 255 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:14,780 Good evening commissioners. My name is Ryan Levis. I'm the architect on the project. 256 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:21,200 It's a great, licensed California Arctic, and Whitney outlined it all very well, she was 257 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,940 very helpful, I'm new to working in this community, I actually come from Sister City Hidden 258 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:36,380 Hills, and I see a lot of similarities, so hopefully you like what you see, and I'm here 259 00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:37,000 for any questions. 260 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,120 Okay. 261 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:38,800 Thank you so much. 262 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,260 Any questions? 263 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Okay, thank you. 264 00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:45,660 We'd love to hear from you if you want to come up. 265 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,080 We know you're the neighbor, so if you've got questions or if 266 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:54,700 you've said he's the 267 00:20:54,700 --> 00:21:01,980 architect of record and if you want to speak you have to come up, okay, I've got to get 268 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:03,800 it on the record, right? 269 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,060 So I'm glad, yeah. 270 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,220 Okay, and again, you don't have to come up, but if you want to say something, we're happy 271 00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:17,780 to listen to anything you guys have. 272 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,200 We know you're the neighbor, so we always like to hear from the neighbor. 273 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:27,020 Now we just want to know the plan, and we went blocked, and it wasn't over too far as we 274 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:33,320 of the property line and to high up either, but after one to the washroom, that all seems good. 275 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Okay, and could you bring up the one slide that shows the easements, the setbacks, and it 276 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,900 also shows the 35? 277 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:50,760 This is a really interesting slide for you guys to see because when somebody does construction 278 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:56,320 on the house, we require them to put a set aside for a barn in the stable, right? 279 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:26,300 Doesn't mean that they're going to build it, but per our code, they have to put aside somewhere that that could possibly be built because of the, the, you know, the rural nature and the horse nature of the community, so so they make us do that and when they, when they do that, you can see that purple outline per city of LA code or county codes, a barn cannot be any closer to a house. 280 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,060 than 35 feet for health reasons, right? 281 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:32,100 So if you start to look at that 35 feet, 282 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:36,620 there really is not anywhere else because of pitches, grades, 283 00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:39,800 or it's too close to the house for them to do that. 284 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:43,420 So I know there's always concern when somebody puts a barn and 285 00:22:43,420 --> 00:22:45,740 a stable closer to your house, right? 286 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,180 Because it's not your horses, what not, and so it could affect you at some point in time. 287 00:22:52,180 --> 00:23:00,700 So, I just want you to try to understand kind of why it's there and that's kind of the only place on the property that it really fits. 288 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:02,700 And that picture is there. 289 00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:06,520 That's very easy to understand. 290 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Yeah, okay. 291 00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:08,340 Okay. 292 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:14,360 And what is our current bridge line? Is it 23 feet? 293 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:21,990 For residents, it's 21 feet and for barns, it's 23. 294 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:27,850 Okay, so again, bridge line, I know that's concern also of neighbors is they're building something in 17 295 00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:32,750 It's significantly below where we're seeing new construction being built 296 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:36,690 So this kind of is a benchmark of what they've designed 297 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:38,470 So anyways 298 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:42,770 Okay, anybody else want to to speak? 299 00:23:44,270 --> 00:23:46,610 Okay, so did you? 300 00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:47,390 Okay. 301 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:54,360 Alright, I'm going to close the public hearing portion then and let's have a discussion 302 00:23:54,360 --> 00:24:00,600 amongst ourselves. I'm good with everything and it seems to really fit within the scope 303 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:07,960 of the property and it doesn't seem overdone so I don't have any issues with it. 304 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,960 I think it's the only place to put the barn and at least they didn't omit it and ask for 305 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,080 variance there. So I like the fact that it's there and as access if anybody ever wanted to add it 306 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,860 into it. And it really didn't impact any other neighbor frankly, other than being close to the 307 00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:26,200 street. So I'm going to do that. Okay. 308 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:33,440 And that picture is very clear, by the way. Yeah. And there really isn't anywhere else to put it. 309 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:42,820 Yeah, as you walked around the property with the elevations, the steep slope on the front, 310 00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:47,420 And where the front door is, you couldn't put it over there, there's no really no other 311 00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:48,160 place to put it. 312 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:54,160 The other thing that's important to note is that a piece of this is an ADU, an actually 313 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,060 dwelling unit. 314 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,320 And we really, an ADU is an auxiliary dwelling unit. 315 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:10,020 And mandates out of Sacramento are requiring, they've made it very easy to build ADUs. 316 00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:15,120 and ADUs don't have to go through the same process as the rest of this. 317 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:18,660 So, even though it looks like it's multiple pieces that we're looking at, 318 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,440 we really don't have any control over the ADU portion of it, 319 00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:28,560 which is backed by the garage and that's the area that also has the higher rich line. 320 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,000 So, anyways, having said all of that, I have no problem with the development 321 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,020 or what they're doing or what they've proposed. 322 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:46,180 So I've closed the outside, the public, but I'll open it back up. 323 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:49,120 If you will come up and state your name and ask the question. 324 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:51,000 So I'm opening it back up. 325 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:53,720 You can see it. 326 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,400 Just state your name for the record. 327 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,100 Marion. 328 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,620 Yeah. 329 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,000 Marion, the librarian. 330 00:25:58,020 --> 00:25:58,660 I'm not. 331 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,000 But anyway. 332 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:02,040 I need to point. 333 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:11,680 So, as we go along here, our house is here, okay, and it's just two houses are together, 334 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,640 and that has nothing to do with it, in order for the one to appear. 335 00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:24,420 But right here, there's a strip of land where it starts with the driveway for this house, 336 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:30,380 And it has nothing to do with anybody. 337 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440 It looks like we just left there. 338 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,420 Are you talking about the road that goes down? 339 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,300 It isn't really a road. 340 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,660 It's a dirt path. 341 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,380 Maybe one kind of water, but now. 342 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:46,300 Now, it's just... 343 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:46,960 That's correct. 344 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,140 And if you wonder why they could do something on this side of it 345 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:04,080 I don't know. I'm assuming that it's this strip, the dirt road that went to where the 346 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,000 playground equipment was. And there used to be a barn there and so that was the access 347 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,660 to the barn. 348 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:32,560 So what we'll do is if you can talk to the city, they will have a conversation and we can see what can be done about the bushes. 349 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,960 not a big deal. Okay, thank you. All right, so I'm going to close the public party 350 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,720 again. Does somebody want to make a motion? 351 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,960 Chair, move to approve zoning case number 2026-4-0. 352 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,540 I will second. 353 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Okay. 354 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,080 You roll call. 355 00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:51,300 Christra Sue. 356 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:52,980 Uh, exact. 357 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:54,500 Christra Douglas. 358 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:56,160 Vice Chair Kirkpatrick. 359 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,460 Yes. 360 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Chair Chau. 361 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:58,000 Yes, thank you. 362 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,240 Okay. Moving on. Discussion items. I see none. 363 00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:06,930 Scheduled field trips. Do we have any 364 00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:13,510 field trips? Yes. Thank you, Chair. We anticipate having two field trips at next month's meeting. 365 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:20,110 One is to return to eight buggy whip. And staff is interested to hear from the commission 366 00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:23,750 if they would like to do a field trip at eight buggy whip for that continued public hearing. 367 00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:28,290 and the second would be at 2950 Palace Verde's Drive North. 368 00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:33,910 So that is unique property that we would access outside the city gate from PV Drive North. 369 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:35,890 Which one will we start with? 370 00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:38,810 I would recommend we start with the PV Drive North property. 371 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:40,570 Okay, what is that address again? 372 00:28:42,150 --> 00:28:44,170 2950 Palace Verde's Drive North. 373 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:47,610 Okay, great, okay, thank you. 374 00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:49,470 Matters for members of the planning commission, 375 00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:52,460 seeing none. 376 00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:53,940 Matt or some staff. 377 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:55,740 Thank you. 378 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,700 I have two quick items. 379 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,960 The first, I'm very excited to introduce formally our new assistant planner, 380 00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:07,260 a Darshtumula, who comes to us from Waterloo, Iowa, where he's been working as a planner for two years. 381 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,420 And prior to that, he received his bachelor's degree in urban studies and planning from the University, 382 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,700 California at Irvine. 383 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,340 So we're really glad to have him. 384 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,460 He's been here a little over a week and is already helping out quite a bit. 385 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:22,440 So please join me in extending a warm welcome. 386 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,100 Welcome to a Darsh. 387 00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:25,220 We're happy to have you on the team. 388 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,660 Then the quick second item, less exciting to share, but it has come to staff's attention 389 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:37,680 that there have been some fraudulent emails that are going out based on some of the public 390 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,700 information that staff publishes for planning commission hearing. 391 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,700 So both applicants for the items tonight received some fraudulent emails requesting payment 392 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,780 over wire transfer and other things. 393 00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:59,980 So staff just wanted to share that this is happening and please that we'll we'll going forward let all that. 394 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,780 No, all applicants know they should be advised that they would not receive urgent payment requests from staff and payment will always be coming through formal city emails, not unsolicited emails. So. We put anything in the blue line of the blue folder about that. We're going to be putting something together. Yeah. Try to get ahead of it. That'd be great. Okay. Thank you. So we are adjourned until 730. 395 00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:35,940 September 15th, 2026 at 2950 palace birdies drive. 396 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:38,600 Thank you.