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Russ common county Board of
Commissioners meeting for August 26th at

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9:00 a.m. Please stand for the pledge.

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» I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Roll call, please.
Spencer,

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» here.
>> Milbour,

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» here.
>> Wilson,

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» here.
>> Here.

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» Approval of the agenda.
>> So move, madam chair.

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We have a second.
>> I'll second.

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» Any discussion?
Roll call, please.

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» Marley,
>> yes.

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» Milbour,
>> yes.

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» Wolson,
>> yes.

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» Yes.
>> Approval of the consent agenda. The

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items within are the meeting minutes
from August 12th, 2026 board meeting and

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the lake level control structure special
meeting correspondences A through C.

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which includes a letter from a L lion
Township resident, letter from Tammy

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Thompson regarding Lake Kieran Regional
Development Corporation in the Higgins

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Lake Foundation, monthly department
reports, the administrator controller

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report.
Do I have a motion to approve the

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consent agenda?
>> Second.

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» Roll call, please.
>> Wilson,

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» yes. Mley,
>> yes.

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» Spencer, yes. Milbour,
>> yes.

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» Public comment for agenda items only. Is
there any public comment for agenda

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items?

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Any visitors?

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Unfinished business. Lake level control
structure operator interviews.

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Commissioner Wilson and I met with um
two out of the four applicants.

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Um based on the interviews, I do believe
that we have a gentleman that might be a

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good fit and I believe that we would
like to offer him the job if I'm not

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mistaken. Commissioner Wolson,
>> I think he

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» um
What was his name?

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» Yep.
Um the wage scale that was given to us.

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Um where was that
basic?

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Sorry.

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» Um, was that a grade three?
Um, step starting at 1921 an hour at

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step one and would it go all the way to
2260 at a step seven? Um what we're

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trying to do is figure out that middle
range

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with approximately how many hours on
average

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might be out there every single day
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» and I'm
man

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you guys okay I'm sure you can still
hear me even if I don't have a

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microphone. Okay. So, it's also kind of
looking at what money we contribute into

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those funds going forward. What like
what else could we It's also not just

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that salary, but we're looking at how
much we have in those those different

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funds those SADs as well like on the
ongoing going down the road. We don't

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want to deplete everything and not have
anything or other things. Is that am I

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» Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to look at
how many years and you have to figure

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those into future assessments and
ongoing costs and things like that.

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» Okay. As long as that's still kind of
going into the calculation.

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» Yep.
>> Well,

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» with the wage and salary committee
putting kind of where it needs to go

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there, that's that's a great start.
>> And it's a lake operator. It's not a

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delegated authority. It's not a manager.
It's strictly the operator. So, the job

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duties aren't quite as extensive as what
they were when Chase had it and things

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like that.
>> That's the way I understood.

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Good,
>> Madam Chair.

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» Yes.
>> Um, I realize funding is always an

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issue, but the $10,000 this county
committed to each of these lakes per

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year was not committed with the
dedication for what it was to be used

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for.
was just 10,000 put into the SAD every

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year.
>> What was it intended for then? I'm

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sorry.
>> It just was $10,000 commitment. It was

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not tagged for this purpose or that
purpose. So, um just

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» we just have to make sure that when we
do future assessments that everything is

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looked at and covered,
>> correct?

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» And looked at. Yep.

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I think we kind of come up with a
number.

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» Um I I know we have talked about a
couple different numbers but and I think

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until we really sit down um I know at
one point we talked about the 21,000

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that was initial but then when we went
back and we looked at how many hours a

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week that would average out to I think
we kind of looked at some other things

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too.
21,000 was a maximum,

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» right?
>> Um, it'd be good to be able to offer the

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job after today. So, if we could settle
on a number today,

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» is that is that the request for today's
meeting that we do that today, Madam

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Chair?
>> Um, I would like to have a ballpark like

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a wage in between this and this so that
as Rex and I if we can.

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» Sure. you know, um,
>> can you review that one more time

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because I don't have that wage in.
>> So, if you go went by when we sat down,

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we looked at roughly I think it was an
average of $10 or 10 hours a week, which

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then would equate to 520 hours out of
the year basically.

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And
at the low end, if you did that of the

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wage scale, you would be at 9,98920.
At the high end of that wage scale, you

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would be at 11,752.

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» You guys have looked at qualifications
and checked all the boxes. So, what's

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your recommendation in between that? You
want low end? You want high end? What do

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you want us to vote on? Well, you know,
wages scale doesn't take into account

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this person is basically on call 247.
I mean, every day he's on call. Doesn't

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know if tomorrow he has to go to the
site or not, but you know, and and

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there's a cost involved with putting
someone on call every day.

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I would suggest
around $11,000 figure. the I think was

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like 11,900
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» 750 um
>> would be a fair price

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because of being on call and it you know
coincides with wagian salary

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» starting at the top of the wage scale
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» yes
>> I recommend 11,752 that you mentioned

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seems reasonable
>> you know and he may not accept accept

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it. We don't know,
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» We have to talk with him. And
the candidate we chose lives on the

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river over by the St. Helen Dam.
>> It's a big job.

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» It's a big job just being responsible
every day. I mean, you know, he's going

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to we want to move to operating the lake
levels at the average daily level,

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» which would mean
that information is yesterday. So, you

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know, he's going to get up in the
morning, look at yesterday's level, and

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then that determines whether he has to
respond or not.

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» And it is still the delegated authority
to make that call or does he make the

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call based upon?
>> He's going to have the ability to make

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the decisions
manual or wherever it's supposed to be.

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That's already
>> the instructions for it. Mhm.

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» And our role will be to guide him in
what way do we

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» if he has a question?
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» Got it.
>> If he has a question and then obviously

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Rex and I will also continue to keep an
eye on the levels and make sure that it

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is being operated the way that it should
be. And he when we interviewed him, he

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understood that, you know, the final
call relies with the board

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and he was okay with that. He does um he
did own his own manufacturing company

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for 23 years. Um he also worked at
school craft college in the

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manufacturing department.
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and he's just really looking, you know,
one of the first questions I asked him

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was why he applied for the job. And he
likes to keep busy. He's retired and he

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wants to keep busy. Right now he
ms lawns part-time and things of that

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nature, but it's more or less just to
keep busy, keep active.

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» I think this also frees up us putting
that on our maintenance crew as an

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interim right now because they're busy,
especially with the projects that are be

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coming forward for capital projects that
they're not being pulled from their

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daily job to go do something. So,
>> sounds like Mark, is that a motion on

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your end? fine with that
>> just as an agreement until we if he

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accepts then obviously it'll come back
for board's final approval and stuff

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like that.
>> So we will reach out to him and

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» a motion for that. Right.
>> Okay.

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» All right.

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So we are at new business which we don't
have anything listed and so now we are

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at our motions and resolutions.

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So whenever you are ready

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motion one move to appoint William
Mountain to the Roscommen County Veteran

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Affairs Committee for a 4-year term
beginning 86 of 2026 through 1231 of

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2030. Who moves?
>> Second.

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» Any discussion?
>> Good.

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» Yes, I would agree.
Um, roll call, please. Marley,

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» yes.
>> Wilson,

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» yes.
>> Milbour,

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» yes.
>> Spencer,

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» yes. Motion carried.
Motion two, move to approve MDOT

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contract number 2026-0679

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author authorizing airport manager Eric
Jer to acquire S sur and maintenance

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equipment rotary cut finish mower
box blade for the Roscom County Bladget

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Memorial Airport whose associated city
is Holton Lake, Michigan as outlined in

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the sponsor contract with a $0 county
share match to move.

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» Second.
>> Any discussion?

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Roll call, please. Spencer,
>> yes.

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» Orley,
>> yes.

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» Wilson,
>> yes.

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» Milbert,
>> yes.

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» Motion carried.
>> Number three. Move to adopt resolution

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number 2026-08-01

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authorizing chairperson Darlene Sensor
to sign sponsor contract on behalf of

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the Rosscom County Board of
Commissioners. Whereas the Roscommen

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County Board of Commissioners on behalf
of Rosscom County Logit Memorial Airport

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enters the into contracts grants and
certificate certifications through

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federal and state programs. And whereas
the Ross Common County Board of

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Commissioners elected Darlene Spencer to
serve as chairperson for fiscal years

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2026 and 2027. And whereas it is the the
desire of the Roscommon County Board of

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Commissioners to grant chairperson
sensor the authority to execute airport

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sponsor contracts between Roscom County
Lodge Memorial Airport and the state of

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Michigan Department of Transportation,
Office of Aeronautics as approved by the

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board. And whereas the Roscom County
Board of Commissioners does agree that

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if the designated signer changes,
Roscommen County and/or Ross Common

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County Lodge Memorial Airport will
contact the state of Michigan Department

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of Transportation, Office of Aeronautics
with the changes. Therefore, be it

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resolved that Darling Censor of the
Roscomin County Board of Commissioners

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chairperson be authorized and directed
to execute airport sponsor contracts

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with the state of Michigan Department of
Transportation, Office of Aeronautics on

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behalf of Ross Common County Lodge
Memorial Airport.

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» So, move madam chair.
>> Second.

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» Any discussion?
>> Yes, ma'am. Like to thank Mr. Shro, our

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county controller and our board chair
for all the work they put into this.

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Thank you.
>> Thank you. Roll call, please. Marley,

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» yes.
>> Wilson,

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» yes.
>> Sensor, yes. Milbourne,

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» yes.
>> Um, adopted mo or resolution adopted.

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» Um, committee reports. Commissioner
Mley.

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» Yeah. Um,
wow, that still sounds loud, doesn't it?

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Um, August 14th, Northern Lakes
Community Mental Health, their personnel

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committee met. We looked over the
climate survey um for them, which is

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there's been some improvement um in the
culture there. Um, this past year on the

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19th, uh, we started our department head
budget meetings. We have completed the

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airport, animal control, IT maintenance,
and equalization in spongy moth on that

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day. on the 20th Northern Lakes
Community Mental Health Board meeting

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was up in Leelana this time. Uh,
Representative John Roth was there to

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speak about he is the chairperson
for appropriations for DHHS which

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impacts the money that Northern Lakes
receives. So he talked about some of the

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things that they're working on more
equality within each of those regions

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where money in rural areas get better
money versus just downstate big city.

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There's only three months left in this
year before that the new people might

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take place. So he doesn't know how much
they'll get done. But he said since the

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director of DHHS has left, it seems like
the staff have been more open about

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talking about different options on how
to clean those up and kind of equalize

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out how we do mental health across the
state. So, so we'll we'll see. Um I

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wanted to note about their quality and
compliance group because we all know

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that when we hear people in our county
going through audits.

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This group one they updated like nine
policy and procedures in a month and

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they did three random sample audits,
three targeted audits. February DHS did

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their HSAG audit on them. In April, DHHS
did their site review audit on them. In

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January, NMRE did their qualitative
review and then their KAF review, which

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gave them their three-year
accreditation. That all happened in one

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year. It's a lot on people to get
through, but they they did it. So, just

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shows the work that that group does um
behind the scenes. Finance reports

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looking good. Cash flow is better.
They're not having to get the money from

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NRE first in order to pay their bills.
So, that's good. But definitely still

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working. uh we will they are looking at
trying to increase county contributions.

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Um as I have shared with our chair,
we've been pretty open about kind of our

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stance on giving those increases, you
know, because it has not changed for

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decades. It's been the same dollar
amount for I don't know how long.

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Controller, you might know. Way it's
never changed since you've been here.

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Yeah.
um not a lot, but um they're going to

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meet with us, the CEO and our controller
and our chair will be meeting just to

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understand what that's like and what
they're facing because of the Medicaid

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reduction. They won't be able to supply
that and the state is not given any

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additional money for decades to mental
health. It's been the same value for a

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long time. A little bit about that
because I think it'll be helpful for all

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of us as commissioners when they do come
before us. um you know we um I think we

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contribute about 57 a year 57,000 maybe
a year and we serve about 300 on an

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average every month and when you compare
that to some of our local groups like

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Crawford they only do about 190 people a
month that they serve and they pay way

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less than we do they pay 35 a year does
137 a month and they're at about the

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same amount 35 a year
does far more than us. They have over

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500 people, almost 550 every month that
they do and they're paying 76,000. So,

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just to give us all a ballpark of what
what we're getting for what we're

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spending today before that. Um, so heads
up, the public hearing for them is in H

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Hotton Lake on September 10th. I know
our controller and our chair have an

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invite, our sheriff's, um, the school
district superintendent are invited and

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things like that. So, it is open to the
public. August 21st, the budget meetings

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continued. Um, thank uh circuit court,
central filing, district court, and

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probate family court. We did all that
and in that day, um on the 24th, more

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budget here group meetings with
department heads, the clerk, the

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treasurer, the veterans office, and then
on the 25th, I know they completed the

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sheriff's department, and my apologies
for not being able to get there due to

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somebody being in the hospital. So,
that's it. Thank you.

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On August 20th, I attended the community
action meeting in Trevor City. The big

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thing there, they gave an annual report,
but they talked about this new program

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called home sharing networking. What
they're doing is they're unrolling a

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program that's going to allow seniors to
match with other seniors to stay in

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homes. Should be a good
Thank you, Madam Chair.

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» Okay.
Um, we had

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the interview of the lake level control
structure operator applicants. Um, we

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also had a Holton Lake improvement board
meeting where we learned of additional

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acres within H Hotton Lake where Mil
Foil has

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the first time sprung up in some
different areas. um board after a

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lengthy discussion did decide um to have
um over 1,800 acres additional acres

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sprayed um which was later in the season
but it's still

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in the experts eyes hadn't gone to seed
yet so it was worth doing and I believe

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they did that yesterday I know it was
going to be sometime this week but I

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think it did happen yesterday
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and then the budget and finance um
department head budget proposal

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meetings. We've had quite a few and I
think our last grouping is September 4th

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that we will be meeting and finalizing
or

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more on that in the budget and finance
meeting.

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Commissioner Wilson
>> um attended the Northern Michigan

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Counties Association.
They were talking about new dam safety

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rules coming down the line for mid to
high hazard dams. It's going to become

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extremely expensive for
maintaining dams. At this point, it is

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for mid to high hazard,
but don't be surprised if they throw

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some rules in there, new rules for low
level like we have. Also, they talked

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about um revenue sharing in the next
budget session. Don't expect an increase

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or a decrease.
a lot. When we change governorship, the

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new governor is going to walk in with
about a billion dollar shortage.

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So, I think down the line something's
going to happen.

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Been working with um Bakus Township on
the design of their

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recycling site, some work into our
materials management plan. Um, we met

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with a contractor. We met with a tree
remover yesterday. Um, so that's moving

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along. We think it's going to come
within budget, which is good because at

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first it was going to be a shortfall
there, but they were notified they did

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get the grant. They haven't got the
signed contract yet, but they were

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notified they have the grant for this
project.

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Um I attended the bid opening for the
new boiler systems

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day. We have interviews with three of
the bid. There was I think six biders.

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Um
the three interviews we're having the

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bids range from $560,424

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to $690,000.
And today we're having interviews with

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those those were the three lower biders.
We're having interviews with them.

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I guess that's it.
>> Thank you.

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» Public comment. Any public comment?

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» Yes.

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So, I know that I have emailed the board
um lots of information in the last week

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and a half in regards to this, but I
just wanted to make a statement in a

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public meeting. Um, we have had a change
in our spongy moth surveying practices.

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Um, with some federal suits, um, some
closures at a court of appeals level, at

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a state level, and then some new
lawsuits that have been filed in regards

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to local government accessing um,
private property. Those cases, while not

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specific to spongy mos surveying, um
have really emphasized the court's

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feelings on Fourth Amendment's right and
access to property. We have always

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operated under the legal opinion that um
surveying was a right based on the

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millillage. Um they always went to the
doors and knocked to see if anybody was

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home. um that will not change. But what
will change is that if you're not home

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um the property will not be surveyed.
So, what we are putting into place um is

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a process where residents can go online
and do a quick form online at the Spongy

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Moth Rascom County Spong website that
would authorize for that access um for

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the spray year. And um therefore, if
somebody's not home and we already have

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that authorization, they can go ahead
and and proceed as is. Um additionally,

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if we knock and somebody answers and
they provide that, great. That's exactly

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what we're looking for. Um, we have had
it out on social media already. There

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are postcards going to 22,000
residents in Roscommen County. Um, that

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are actually should be mailed tomorrow.
The the mailing date is for the 26th.

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Um, but we will continue the processes.
That big change is just going to be

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whether or not we have that
authorization at the time. Um, it's just

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it's new. Um, Greta has worked very hard
to get the information to the townships.

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We're seeing um some trickles in in the
last week, six, seven people um with

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that online form that comes back to um
comes back to Greta and then uh copy to

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me. But um it's you know kind of that
slow upgrade and um some of the areas

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that are are to me pretty important are
those ones that are frequently sprayed.

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If we don't have the data um we can't
spray. So that's going to be um that's

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going to be the biggest impact of that.
So, just continuing to communicate um

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hanging flyers up at the grocery stores,
something with a QR code on it where

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somebody could stop, scan, and register
right then before they grab their 2%

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milk. So,
thank you.

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Any other public comment?

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Okay, board comment, Commissioner Moley.
>> I know it's really not just a reminder.

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Um there is that FEMA can help with
paying for repairs that were needed

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make a person's home safe after the
damage that we occurred to the flood. So

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those flyers are out there. I I know our
treasurer was also

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wanting us to continue to spread that
word as well. I know our emergency

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manager as well just to let people know
that that's out there. We did qualify

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for that. So there's a way to to go do
that.

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Then I think it was already mentioned
about the collaborative group really

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wanting to
it was the letter that came from Tammy

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Thompson about collaborative
opportunities from the Lake Huron group.

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So those were the only two things

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I'll be working with the county
controller in regard to the 25th

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anniversary of 911.
Does that mean Thank you, Madam Chair.

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» Um, I did reach out to Tammy Thompson
and I told her that once we kind of got

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through some budget stuff that we would
reach out.

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» So, that that's been taken care of. Um
Marcy did want um us to make everybody

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aware that
um FEMA will be on site at the Ross

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Common Village Farmers Market this
Saturday, August 29th, from 10:00 a.m.

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to 3:00 p.m. And information is
available over on the table by the door

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for that.
Um, I also did forward um this and ask

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it be dispersed to all the department
heads, the consumer energy 2026

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community impact award application.
So, if you didn't get it, there is

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information about that that I can give
to you and that is all I really had.

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» Commissioner Wilson,
>> I'm good.

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» Okay.
With no further board comment, this

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meeting is adjourned and our next um
work session meeting begins at 10

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o'clock.

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» What?

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» Oh, I was just going to leave that for
lake level discussion.

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» You need me there at 3:30 today.

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» Is what it is.
But that's why we have our lake level

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meetings once a month. We just got the
opinion yesterday from Pat on the other.

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» I'll definitely text you if I can't. I
mean, right now

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» we should be home by then and I can be
there, but

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» or move it to
more important take care.

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» I got a call last night from my brother.
He's got stage four cancer and two brain

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tumors.
>> So, he's on he works for the state.

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Mommy said, "Well, I'm retiring
tomorrow." I said, "What do you mean

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you're retiring?" He said, "I can't
drive because you had two brain tumors."

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» I think we need a meeting with Tom and
Eric again in between to discuss what

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that looks like so that we can explain
to the board what that looks like.

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» No. And
>> no, but I don't think that with them per

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se that I mean that's really
>> Yeah. But we have to keep them informed

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and yes they have to agree but really
that's something the lake level. Yeah.

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But it still is. And I have told Tom in
an email and I I CC you on the email

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that it I highly doubted that we would
get and be able to acquire that

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property.
>> So

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yes, there is there's way too much third
party. Do you want to reach out to

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him?
>> Okay.

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» Yeah.

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with the caveat that you know we can
relook at

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» uh I think you can offer him the job but
before he can actually accept like fully

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he has to go through all that.

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Can

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» do is there a way of getting an address
for him so we can mail him a card or

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something?
>> Sure.

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» Yeah.
>> I'll try.

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» Okay.
>> If we can.

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» I'll make the attempt. We should do that
too

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» just because we didn't get to say
goodbye to him. I know. I know.

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» I heard that the other day.

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» He should have been sitting in this
whole time.

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» Yes.

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» Right.

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My son closer to

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Yeah.

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» Doesn't hurt

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very hard. Is that on our desk?
>> Yes.

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My guess is Kim, they're probably lower
than

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» or the same.
>> I guess we go figure it out.

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» Yeah, I'm not leaving it up to them to
do that.

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» So, I think
>> it's divide and conquer.

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» If you need to call one, you call one
and start asking

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» because I want our surrounding
driveable. I get that you're doing what

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what's considered,
but I want

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you.

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But for me,

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Those

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are the ones.

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» I think those are much moreistic

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because

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I'm going to look them over a little
bit.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Here's

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my

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Thank

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you.

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Ross Common County Board of
Commissioners work session August 26,

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2026 at 10:00 a.m. First we have wage
and salary committee recommendations.

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our HR specialist, Noel Martin.
Brought my water.

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So, nobody wanted to um come up with me,
which is okay, but we had a really great

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um wage and salary committee again this
year. Um and so I'm here on behalf of

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them. Um, and I'm going to give you um
the uh basically the overall synopsis of

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what our committee um found through our
annual um wage analysis.

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I did give you a couple things. Um what
I'm going to be reading from mostly is

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the um little presentation document. Um
so

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just to begin um the wage and salary
committee just a kind of a reminder of

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what it is. We serve as the advisory
board for the board of commissioners.

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We're tasked with the annual review of
current classification and compensation

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policy system that we um use for our
wages here. And uh we offer then the

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recommendation annually uh to the board
while we are also considering the budget

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constraints that um that you guys are
faced with. The annual survey of market

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comparable conditions um with comparable
counties um is typically conducted um in

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June and July um and studied by the
committee in July into August and then

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numbers are put together then to bring
to you

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um this year with the budget starting a
little bit earlier um than typical has

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in the past um our system was kind of
already in play and in the works. So, it

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might seem even though you guys have
been doing, you know, budget meetings,

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um, the last little while, um, we're not
necessarily coming in and saying, "Hey,

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you should do this, you know, now." It
just happened to be the timing of

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everything. So, the good news is is that
we're pretty much in, I think, in

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alignment from for where you guys
started um, at the beginning of your

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00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:10,960
budget process. Um the counties that are
surveyed annually um include Alpena

435
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:18,079
County, Antrum County, Benzy County,
Charavoy County, um Shbboan, Claire,

436
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Crawford, Gladwin, Ayasco, Manaste,
Msaki, Oceanana, Ogawa, Ayola, Aiggo,

437
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:32,560
and Waxford. Um and this year we had uh
all but two. I believe we didn't get a

438
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:37,760
Crawford County or a Masaki County. Um
but we were able to get some w some were

439
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:41,760
all wages for um our positions from the
rest of the county. So we had a

440
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:46,160
fantastic turnout um of wages which of
course always gives us the the bigger

441
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:51,920
picture um than what we could um that we
can ask for. So um the counties that are

442
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:57,440
selected um have been selected for
market um market size, budget,

443
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,880
demographics um in comparable to Roscom
County. Um and they've also um been able

444
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:10,160
to help determine um what our comparable
job market is. We've also used um some

445
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:15,599
counties in this to um there's an active
market for our the same level of talent

446
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:19,839
that we have here. Um and so some of the
counties that are in here have been um

447
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:24,160
where we have lost employees to in the
past. Um and so we added them in there

448
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:28,319
and it actually kind of gave us a little
bit more in the last few years has given

449
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:32,040
us a better picture of what um the
market is really like.

450
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Um
before I continue, um just on behalf of

451
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,480
the 2025,
uh committee members, um the our current

452
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:50,800
wage and salary committee would really
like to thank you guys as a board um for

453
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:55,920
your response and your regard of our
recommendation for last year. Um it

454
00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:00,160
takes a lot of effort. A lot of time is
spent gathering, reviewing the

455
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:05,200
information. Um going through and trying
to really pull together a comprehensive

456
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:11,040
recommendation to give to you that um
both serves your your need as a board

457
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:16,880
with needing to balance a budget, but
also um go along with what the trends

458
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:22,800
are happening and really where the
market is at for um the positions that

459
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:28,160
we have here. And so um having this
committee has really um been able to

460
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:33,280
create a bridge between better for
better um employee employer relations

461
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:37,839
and last year you guys heeding that um
that recommendation really went a long

462
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:42,079
way um not just with the committee but
with the employees and departments

463
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:48,040
overall. Um, so that was very much
appreciated and I wanted to make sure

464
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:48,040
that we mentioned uh a thank you.

465
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:56,319
So
to get into the market comparison that

466
00:46:51,599 --> 00:47:02,880
we found um overall the uh grades 1
through 10, our entirety of the non-UN

467
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:09,760
wage scale um was behind market average
um by a 1 and a half%.

468
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:15,599
Um truly this is actually the lowest
that we have seen um in the past several

469
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:20,960
years. I would say that um it has to do
with the awesome work that started in

470
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:26,240
2025 and then also continued in 2026
with um attention to um into the wage

471
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:30,720
scale and making sure that we were
trying to be competitive um with the

472
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,200
market. Um
last year we um kind of discovered that

473
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:39,920
grades one through six kind of fell into
some c uh specific category and grades

474
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,079
seven through 10 also kind of fell into
their own. Um and just to refresh your

475
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,200
memory, grades one through six are your
typically your hourly employees. Grades

476
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,480
seven through 10 are typically your
salaried employees. Um, so I also did

477
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,640
put in the information um that we found
if you're looking at just grades one

478
00:47:54,079 --> 00:48:01,760
through six um about two and a half%
behind um the market average and then

479
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,480
grades 7 through 10 are about 2.76
behind the market average. Um but when

480
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:11,800
you look at the entirety of 1 through 10
all of the positions that's where we

481
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,800
come up with the one and a half%.

482
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:21,680
So, um this despite all the the amazing
response that um the board gave to our

483
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:26,720
wage scale last year, um we still sit,
like I said, about a negative one and a

484
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:30,720
half% behind. Um this probably most
likely can be attributed to the fact

485
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:34,800
that when we're doing our market
analysis, we're doing it in the middle

486
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:40,000
of a year. Um and everyone's fiscal year
is a little bit different. Um, and so

487
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:44,400
when wage increases are going to be
happening in the market, they are a

488
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:49,359
little bit everywhere. So we're able to
take what the data is at that time and

489
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:54,319
apply that to our scale. Um, and then of
course try to use the best guesstimates

490
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:59,200
that we can for the future um in in
order to be able to continue our budget

491
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:03,040
process. Um, like I said, we are a much
closer than we have been in several

492
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:07,760
years, which is awesome. Um, so being
behind is not necessarily I think in

493
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:12,880
this regard a um a bad thing. I think it
just has to do with um you know our our

494
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:18,480
guesses and what what the rest of our
comparables are doing. A lot of their

495
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:24,079
fiscal years don't start until um they
start in October. Um and so they may not

496
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:28,400
be looking at those wage um those wages
when we are um and or maybe they're

497
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,599
they've already looked at them but
they're not utilizing the same data that

498
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:40,000
we are for um for our uh potential
increases as well. Um so um the cost of

499
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:45,280
living history um that was a big
discussion in the wage and salary group

500
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:51,359
and it always has been. Um but uh this
we um when I first started, I started in

501
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:58,160
2014. Um there had been a tracking since
2009 for the um cost of living increase

502
00:49:54,240 --> 00:50:03,200
for the for the wages. Um and so um
looking back at that, we also put in um

503
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:10,160
what the social security um cost of
living had been since 2009. Um and then

504
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:16,240
also um I also tracked then what it has
been since um 2020 when we implemented

505
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:22,559
our wage system. Um and for the most
part during both of those um periods uh

506
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:26,400
we have tracked just about at 50% of
what social security um cost of living

507
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:30,559
has recommended. And of course we don't
necessarily have to meet social security

508
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:36,880
but that's a good benchmark to see where
the markets are trending. Um and so that

509
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:44,079
um that came into consideration for us
um with what our recommendation is. Um

510
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:47,599
not this last year but trending um we're
because we're trending in a positive

511
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,200
direction. Um something that we had
mentioned last year but we wanted to

512
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:55,040
continue to mention so that way we're
not going in a negative direction. Um

513
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:59,680
recent years have shown um
uncharacteristic turnover in

514
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:04,079
departments. Um so we're the committee
wants to emphasize the benefit of course

515
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:09,040
of longevity and motivating for talent.
Um long-term costs associated with

516
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:12,880
productivity. Um obviously um you know
they will continue to be utilized uh

517
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:18,480
towards rebuilding of departments
instead of being able to invest that

518
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:24,400
into your employees. Um, the other thing
that continues to weigh,

519
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:28,480
excuse me, um, continues to weigh with
the employees, um, uh, is their

520
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:32,559
healthcare costs, um, as they continue
to adapt to finding extra dollars, um,

521
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,119
to put towards the building of their HSA
accounts, um, to sustain those out-of-

522
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:42,079
pocket costs that the 2025 health
insurance change created. Um, of course,

523
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:46,960
that did not exist prior to 2025. So, we
are still pretty close um, you know, to

524
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:51,280
that change. So, and it takes a while to
build a few thousand dollars, you know,

525
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,920
in an HSA account to be able to account
for some of those expenses that you no

526
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:02,880
longer had, which of course reset every
year.

527
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:07,839
So, the recommendations um that uh that
we came up with and the reasons that we

528
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:13,280
would like to um recommend um progress
breeds opportunity. Uh we want to

529
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:18,319
continue uh the work initiated with the
2025 and 2026 wage scale adjustments. Um

530
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:24,079
the history of the wage and salary
committee um recommendations has stayed

531
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:28,800
pretty much in line um with the
comparable job market values and cost of

532
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:34,800
living adjustments even when we the
board hasn't had the opportunity uh for

533
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:38,720
our wage scale to do the same. Um, so
not so much to like pat back, you know,

534
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:42,480
of the committee, but it it just shows
that the committee is looking at the

535
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:46,720
right numbers and trending in the right
direction. Um, so there's credibility

536
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,200
there for you to be able to depend on.
Um, stopping will essentially um, you

537
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:55,680
know, reset progress that the board has
continued to invest the last few years.

538
00:52:53,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Um, trying to clo and it kind of moves
into closing the gap. Um since we um the

539
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:05,839
last six years we've trended about 50%
of what the national cost of living

540
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:10,160
adjustments have been. Um but progress
in this continuing to bridge the gap um

541
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:14,079
aligns with the past committee
recommendations. Like I said, the

542
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:21,119
committee has been pretty much on par um
for the most part. Um and uh we have had

543
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:25,200
two major market adjustment periods
within those cost of living that have

544
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:30,880
helped get us to where we are today. So
we're not, you know, 50% behind of the

545
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:35,520
market. In 2020, we had a major u market
adjustment with um implementing the wage

546
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:40,240
and salary uh committee and the wage
system that we have today. And then

547
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:44,559
there was a couple rough years. Um 2023
was a really awful budget year. Um there

548
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,240
were departments that were closed, there
were people laid off. It was really,

549
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:52,000
really hard. So obviously, you're not
going to give people a raise when you're

550
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,280
having to let people go. Um but that
being said, there were several years

551
00:53:53,520 --> 00:54:01,200
that the board wasn't able to do any
kind of cost of living adjustment. And

552
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:05,040
so in 2025, um that was the year that um
there was still a recommendation made

553
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:10,240
from the wage and salary, but a total
overhaul of the market um analysis was

554
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:15,359
done to our wage uh system. So that's
those two things are can contribute to

555
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:20,720
the fact that um we aren't 50% behind
anymore.

556
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:26,319
So the committee would recommend um in
totality a 4% cost of living adjustment

557
00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:32,000
um for the entirety of the grade scale 1
through 10. This 4% does include the 3%

558
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:36,400
that um the board of commissioners
already assumed to tell uh for Jod to

559
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:41,760
put into the budgets for budget
preparation. Um so truly the

560
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:48,559
recommendation is hey we agree with you
and we think that 1% um in addition to

561
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:51,520
that um will help uh circumvent some of
this oh we're finding we're finding

562
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:57,920
we're always trending just a little bit
below average. Um and um I'm going to

563
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:03,359
talk to that just in a little bit more.
Um, one of the things also that is super

564
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:09,280
um, important to um, remember for the
committee is that um, funding for the

565
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:13,520
HSA every year. You guys have spoken a
lot to wanting to commit to being able

566
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:18,480
to continue to do that. Um, and that's
also super important to the committee.

567
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:22,079
Um, and would like if that ever changed,
um, the committee would like to be able

568
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:25,599
to review and have a chance to be able
to give a different recommendation for

569
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:30,480
the ratio.
Um so again like I said um with

570
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:36,559
consideration for the budget constraints
um the the recommended order um is the

571
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:40,960
3% cost of living like um you guys have
already implemented um and told Jod and

572
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:44,240
I to be able to go forward and put into
um into the wages and the budgets for

573
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,400
department heads to be able to present
to you. Um this reflects current market

574
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:53,839
comparisons, the trending cost of living
and CPI reports um and concurrent and

575
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:58,880
standing um with uh other uh union
contract negotiated increases for the

576
00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:04,480
fis next fiscal year. Um we do also of
course um recommend the annual step

577
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,720
increase. Um this supports longevity and
overall morale for the employees. And

578
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:14,640
then uh the next would be that
additional 1% cost of living to totality

579
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:18,400
for 4% um for the year of 2027. This
just reflects the current market value.

580
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,240
Um and without knowing how the market
will increase um it helps to combat the

581
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:27,839
trend of falling behind the cost of
living average adjustments um on a local

582
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:32,960
and national scale.
The financial page um has some numbers

583
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:37,760
about okay sure this is great but what
does it actually cost? What does it

584
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:42,559
mean? Um so the first line
recommendation that you have there is

585
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:48,079
the one what 1% adjustments of grades 1
through 10. um would do. We have the

586
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:53,359
first line is the 2027 current
assumptions with just the 3%. The wages

587
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:58,319
are $4,912
843843.

588
00:56:56,319 --> 00:57:02,319
Oh my goodness. Sorry. Let me restart.
$4,912.

589
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:06,760
Uh
>> we got take a drink. Thank you.

590
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,920
2027 additional 1% scenario increases
that to 4,960,746.39.

591
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,319
So the difference between what you're
currently looking at with the budget at

592
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:26,599
the budget committee and doing a 1%
additional um would be $47,932

593
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,440
with the FICA total um averaging about
$3,664.

594
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:38,880
What does this actually do to the
general fund? because that is um all of

595
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:45,599
the wages in totality across the board
for all funds. Um the current 2026 wages

596
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:48,599
sit about for general fund sit at
$3,54,62.75.

597
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:57,799
The 2027 current budgeted wages with as
the 3% is $3,19389

598
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,839
I'm doing it again. $3,193,890.7.

599
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:10,760
The 2027 additional 1% scenario makes
that 3,232,244.31.

600
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:22,920
So what all that means is the difference
between 2026 wages to 2027 with the 3%

601
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,920
you're looking at $139,287.32

602
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:31,599
increase um that you're already seeing
to the general fund with the budget

603
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:36,839
presentations. um to add in an
additional 1% for the general fund would

604
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,839
be $38,35424.

605
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,599
So your total and then the bottom the
$177,64156

606
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:49,240
is the totality of a 4% recommendation
for the general fund.

607
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Um
before I ask for questions, I just

608
00:58:54,319 --> 00:59:01,599
wanted to not all of our members could
come today, but we have a very good um

609
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:05,680
share of them. I will read. Um, we have
Sarah Briggs from Circuit Court, Key

610
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,079
Darcel from Probate and Family Court,
Kim Kery from the Prosecutor's Office,

611
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:14,720
Ginger Major from the Veterans Office,
Will Tarant from Animal Control, Amanda

612
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:19,280
Turner from Central Dispatch, Shannon
Shagenoff from the Jail, and then myself

613
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:24,000
as an advisory. Um, and uh, I just
wanted to be able to put the names to

614
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:29,559
the work that you see in here. Um, and
uh, and if you have any questions, I'd

615
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,559
be happy to answer them.

616
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,599
Madam Chair,
>> yes.

617
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:43,040
» When we look at comparables,
we compare benefit packages.

618
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:47,839
» We do not. Um, we can. It's just not uh
it is not something that the wage and

619
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:52,720
salary committee is tasked with. Um, we
did try that once. It um it's not the

620
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,720
wage and salary right now is not built
to do that. Um, it's not something that

621
00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:00,960
can't be looked at. It's just it's not
what it's built for.

622
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,920
And we don't look at days off with
paying either though.

623
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,920
» Not in the wage and salary committee.
No.

624
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:17,319
» And then at the bottom um where it says
like the total the 177,64156

625
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:25,599
and then next to it is the total FICA.
Is that 13,58958

626
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:29,119
in addition to the 177 or is that
already in there? Uh, no. It would be an

627
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:34,119
addition to that would be just want to
make sure.

628
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,119
» Yep. That would be the total FICA. Yep.

629
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,000
» That's okay.
>> Sorry. Do you remember on this

630
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,000
comparison
whatever

631
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:56,880
» we were um about 4% behind last year
>> in the total grades

632
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,880
» in total grades. That's about four.
Okay.

633
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,079
» We were more behind in the grades one
through six than we were in the seven

634
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:09,760
through 10.
>> Think that there wasments

635
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:14,799
for that one through six. Correct.
Coming on category that

636
01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:21,359
» Yeah, correct. To refresh your I can
refresh your memory. So last year um the

637
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:30,520
recommendation was um to do a 4%
increase to grades 1 through six and

638
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:30,520
then a 3% 1 through 10 cost of living

639
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,000
chair.
>> Yes.

640
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:42,400
» I'd like to see some care payables on
benefits

641
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:46,559
and days off of pay because for a long
time we said people took this job

642
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:51,359
because offered such a good benefit
package.

643
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:57,480
That's changed over the years.
>> I'd like to see

644
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,480
some information on that.

645
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:05,760
» So, we did do last year going into
negotiations for the unions. We took all

646
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:12,240
of those comparables and I had all of
that data like as of October of last

647
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:15,200
year. Um, so that's something that you
and I can just verify if it's accurate

648
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,760
or not
>> and just update that spreadsheet for.

649
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,760
So,

650
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:28,680
» any other questions for Noel?

651
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:40,480
» So,
starting off thinking the 3% wanting an

652
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:46,720
additional one to help us not be
trained. But if we did that,

653
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,839
the report next year would say we're not
below.

654
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:54,119
» Hopefully, yes, that is the intent of
the additional 1% recommendation

655
01:02:55,119 --> 01:03:01,680
and we took that 1% from um the fact
that we were about one and a half%

656
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:09,599
behind.
So thinking that trending right now the

657
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:15,839
um as of last night the social security
right now is trending um around 3% the

658
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:19,440
se the consumer price index about the
same. So

659
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:25,119
» yes
>> I'm in favor of 3% of the 1%. Going for

660
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:29,039
that. I'm going to listen very closely
to the to the county controller and the

661
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:33,280
recommendation. Right now we have a 22%
fund balance. Important to realize that

662
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:38,160
was the folks that worked in the county
that put that same time I want to make

663
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,520
sure the future is healthy. So if it can
come if we can get it more of an

664
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:46,799
increase I don't want to do this next
year that we're two or 3% behind

665
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:50,799
this very close to the
for your work.

666
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:59,520
» Thank you.
potential. Sorry, madam chair.

667
01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:03,760
» Just a question on our two closest
were they just not willing to

668
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:08,720
» It just depends. I think no, they never
responded, which sometimes that can just

669
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,000
be they were busy. Um, you know, and
just weren't able to maybe meet the

670
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:19,920
timeline of when we needed the
information. Um I do also after I reach

671
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:23,680
out I try extensively to do research and
see if I can find um the information.

672
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:26,880
I'll look through board minutes. I'll
look you know look through committee med

673
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:32,000
you know minutes and things like that
trying to figure out and some places

674
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:35,920
will post it and some won't. Um so I
don't I don't really think that it has

675
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:39,839
anything to do so much. Crawford has
responded in the past and Masaki has

676
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:44,799
also responded in the past. So, we had
some this year, we had some that we've

677
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:51,440
never had respond to us and they
responded this year. So, um and it's

678
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:58,640
been awesome. And in fact, we now that
we've done this for this is our well six

679
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,480
two
six. Yeah, this is our technically I

680
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:10,400
guess going into our seventh um
recommendation. Um,

681
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:15,599
counties have uh continued to reach out.
I always offer to send it and I'll send

682
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:19,520
it to anybody who responds. Um, last
year I did have people ask who didn't

683
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:23,039
respond and apologize for not being able
to, you know, give timely response to

684
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:27,920
it, but um, still wanted our
information. So, I do think that, um,

685
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:32,640
the work that we're doing is not only
helpful for us, but has actually been

686
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:35,200
helpful for um, our um, our other
counties.

687
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:44,160
with sitting in on a lot of the
different budget meetings and stuff. I

688
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:49,599
think that currently with what we have,
I think we have to see how that plays

689
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:54,799
out with because we're still waiting on
some numbers. We're waiting on insurance

690
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:59,119
numbers. Those are projected, but we
don't have the hard numbers yet. We're

691
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:05,599
also waiting on
the information from equalization to

692
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:10,240
give us that final tax collection and
things like that before we can really

693
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:15,119
make any final decisions.
That would be my thought process on

694
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:19,119
that. But
>> I do believe that going through we have

695
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:22,880
to look at that and we started a little
bit early just so we learned and could

696
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,960
get ahead of the game, right?
>> So, um I'm glad this had this

697
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,960
information
finaliz.

698
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:40,480
But I really do appreciate
looking at all the counties. The ones

699
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:47,720
that I would really want to have in
there are the ones we didn't

700
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:47,720
right next door. But um

701
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,440
that's a goal. We've got to gauge
longevity down the way, not just this

702
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:59,400
year's budget,
>> right? what can we sustain and still do

703
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,400
all the other things?

704
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:06,720
» Yeah, absolutely.
>> And like I kind of said, you know, we're

705
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:11,839
the we're here to advise you in making
your decisions. So, um that way you have

706
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:15,359
the current and most accurate as
possible information to be able to make

707
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:17,119
your decisions.
>> Very very.

708
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:21,079
» Thank you.
>> You're welcome. Thank you.

709
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:31,039
Okay,
next we have Capital Improvements

710
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:34,920
Building and Grounds Director of
Maintenance Justin Man.

711
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:48,359
» Good morning, commissioners.
Here to give you an update on the

712
01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:48,359
project.

713
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:59,000
Um, we have
had our

714
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,000
opening

715
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,400
to

716
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:10,760
take now.

717
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,239
Moving
forward after that

718
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,560
talking

719
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,120
of the project. We're looking at the
total completion

720
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,960
Don't shut down.

721
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:21,199
» Madam Chair,
>> yes.

722
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:29,199
» I'd like to mention that Justin's done a
lot of work on this and done a very good

723
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:33,799
job. So, I'd like to say thank you.
>> We've been talking about this for a long

724
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:33,799
time.

725
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:42,440
» Okay,
>> nice job. Thank you, Justin.

726
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:54,640
» Um, next we have capital improvement it.
our Andy couldn't be here today, so

727
01:09:51,600 --> 01:10:00,800
our controller is going to give us this
update. So, I will preface with um we

728
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:05,040
did go over this in uh Andy's
presentation, budget presentation. So,

729
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:12,159
Commissioner Sensor and Commissioner
Mley um are also already privy to all of

730
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:18,560
this information. So last year we had
put into this budget um this budget year

731
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:23,760
a new server project. And essentially
what this would do is this new server

732
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:33,120
would allow for you to log in from
anywhere um in the county and your stuff

733
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:38,800
is there. So instead of
each individual computer

734
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:45,760
being assigned to a person, all of your
data is is with your login. Um the the

735
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:52,800
best way that I can explain why this is
better um is just in a common day-to-day

736
01:10:48,719 --> 01:11:00,560
operation. Um I can take um for instance
I can take like a a sergeant sergeant

737
01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:04,880
desk um that Sergeant Daro could log in
and any documents information that he

738
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:11,600
has are at whatever computer he's able
to access for that point. Um the other

739
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:18,000
bonus to that is right now every time we
get 25 to 30 new computers um annually

740
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:24,880
for our staff to rotate in um each of
those computers has to be built for that

741
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:30,159
specific individual. We are a one and a
half IT department for what should

742
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:35,040
probably be a two and a half person IT
department. um the amount of time I mean

743
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,600
months and months once we get those
computers in to have those rebuilt and

744
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:45,040
specifications for that person by
changing to this new server that goes

745
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:51,199
away. They log in, their stuff's there.
So it's a setup and press the button and

746
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:55,120
go. Um so there's zero downtime when the
computer goes down as well because we

747
01:11:53,280 --> 01:12:01,840
can just switch that user to a new
computer. Um the other portion of that

748
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:06,800
is um it really cuts down the actual
cost of procuring their computer. So

749
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:11,679
this is a long-term investment as well.
Um so you're going to have less

750
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,679
computers that you have to purchase
because you don't need multiple

751
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:20,480
computers at a station um assigned to
specific users for specific functions.

752
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:26,560
those specific users. Again, if you're
thinking of it like treasurer front desk

753
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:32,080
um for PR, treasurer front desk for you
can log in under you and perform all

754
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:38,560
those same functions. Um when we
initially quoted this for this budget

755
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:46,320
year, it was roughly $58,000 that was
put in for um it has almost doubled

756
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:50,880
already when he went to order it. So, we
are at the point now where it was

757
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:58,880
roughly $110,000 to get this project
done. Um, that being said, um, we will

758
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:03,840
have a conversation about allocation of
um, capital projects funding during our

759
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:09,360
budget presentation. Um, so we are
looking to request that that additional

760
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:13,600
money be allocated now so that we can
get this per project up and running

761
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:20,920
because we know as of January 1 that
we're anticipated to increase costs

762
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:20,920
related to it by about another 25%.

763
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:32,560
And if I'm not mistaken, um, when we
asked Andy what he believed was the cost

764
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:37,120
factor and why it jumped so much, um, he
basically referenced the data centers

765
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:43,520
and all the parts that are being used
and they're in short supply.

766
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:50,320
So the quote that I know that he gave us
is good through sometime in September.

767
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:55,199
So that's why we want to allocate it now
from the capital improvement fund versus

768
01:13:53,520 --> 01:14:02,120
waiting till after the first of the year
where you're going to look at another

769
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,120
substantial jump

770
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:12,560
» and it would be nice just for any of our
employees you know even the courts to be

771
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:16,159
able to log in if a computer goes down
they're not without I mean their

772
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,320
information
police department even our controller,

773
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:26,679
that information
can be accessed from any computer as

774
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,679
long as they're logging into it.

775
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:35,280
And if a hard drive fails, then they
don't lose all their data as well.

776
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:39,440
» That has happened.
>> That has happened.

777
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:46,400
As much as I didn't have a lot on my
computer, what I did have on my computer

778
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:50,920
is gone from here. So
>> whatever we can do to improve the

779
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,920
efficiency

780
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:57,400
as good as the price anyway.

781
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:06,719
» Any other questions for
on this?

782
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:10,159
» Okay.
With nothing further on the work

783
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:17,000
session, then this meeting is adjourned
and our budget and finance meeting

784
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,000
starts at 11 o'clock.

785
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,440
Watch

786
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,600
this.

787
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,640
Praise

788
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,520
God.

789
01:17:53,679 --> 01:18:00,320
for but that is just kind of a shows you
how things are coming in right now.

790
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:05,360
People wanting to pay taxes. Um our
state reimbursements for our judicial

791
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:12,320
salaries which is roughly 90,000 right
now. Um, our core cost and our sting are

792
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:16,640
also not yet received as of 73126
and those all had happened last year at

793
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:22,400
this point in time.
On a positive note, our percent of

794
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:30,560
expenses compared to this time last year
is 5.34% below our 2025 budget. Um that

795
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:36,400
being said, the numbers are the same for
uh we have 15 of 26 pay periods in 2026,

796
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:40,480
seven of 12 monthly retirement payments
and eight of 12 monthly benefit premium

797
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:46,800
payments made. And those are actually
the same where we were at this time last

798
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:50,280
year as well. So it is just a general um
general expense

799
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:56,159
downturn right now with our departments
just doing a fabulous job of managing

800
01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:58,239
their budgets. So,
>> Madam Chair,

801
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:03,440
» yes.
>> Um, the state not coughing up their

802
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:09,520
money,
is that of a concern? I mean, is there

803
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:15,600
something going on at the state level
that

804
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:19,679
» it is not um I I often I like to me
personally I I do it just as like people

805
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:24,000
that don't come and pay their taxes on
their house until the very last day,

806
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:29,120
they're going to keep all the money they
can until they absolutely can't keep it

807
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:33,360
anymore. Um, so my thought process is
that we will probably see more of this

808
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:40,760
come in in October when their new fiscal
year starts. Um, once they have to clean

809
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,760
out those buckets in September. So

810
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:48,000
if it was our if it would have been our
uh revenue sharing, I might be a little

811
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,000
bit more concerned, but that is on par.
So,

812
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:01,520
so I wanted to just start with now that
we have all of our audit adjustments um

813
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:06,880
and final entries in with those
beginning fund balances for 2026 and we

814
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:12,400
do have this on for a further discussion
once the presentation's done. Um, just

815
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:17,960
as a as a rehash, um, our beginning fund
balance as of 2025 was $2,167.

816
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:23,719
Oh, I'm doing a Noel. 2,167,39.19.

817
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:34,640
Um the difference between our collected
202 should say 2026 or 2025 revenues and

818
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:42,360
our 2025 expenditures
um left us with a fund balance as of

819
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:42,360
January 1, 2026 of 2,948,782.119.

820
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:56,520
Our 18% funding balance goal, so 18% of
our total general fund expenses that

821
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:56,520
have been budgeted, um is 2,148,63504

822
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:06,719
the fund balance policy that was
approved by the board of commissioners

823
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:11,360
um that under or over goal would need to
be assessed and um reallocated and

824
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:15,520
reooked at. Obviously, if we were in the
negative, we would be reviewing our

825
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:21,679
budget um to look to see how to meet
that. And um because we are in the

826
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:26,159
positive at 6.7% over the fund balance
goal, um this board will have an

827
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:30,800
opportunity to make decisions about um
allocations to capital improvements, um

828
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,239
some of the other things that you've
talked about, uh healthcare savings

829
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:41,120
accounts, set aside funds, those type of
things.

830
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:46,640
So, it's a it's a great place to be. Um,
so for fun and just because I like to

831
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:50,800
make you read little print, um, our 2026
beginning fund balances for post audit

832
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:55,440
for some of our other funds. Um, I will
just hit on some of the ones that I

833
01:21:52,400 --> 01:22:02,239
think of as highlights. Um, our sheriff
road patrol fund is still sitting um,

834
01:21:58,239 --> 01:22:07,040
above the 25% that we like to see as far
as making sure that they have enough to

835
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:11,760
to run for an ample amount of time. Um
they were at 34.34%

836
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:17,040
at the beginning of this year. Um I will
caveat that sheriff has asked to be on

837
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:21,199
the agenda for a budget adjustment at
the next work session. So we will

838
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:27,120
probably see that dip at the end of this
year again. Um our animal shelter

839
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:35,920
donations which are explicitly used for
animal care. um the vet bills that come

840
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:40,880
in um and routine vets, non-rine vets um
those are all paid out of that shelter

841
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:47,120
donation program um is is very good. One
of the areas that is of concern um and

842
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:52,960
this is solely based on that huge
project they had to do last year um is

843
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:57,280
the animal control program fund itself.
So, our actual millillage collections

844
01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:02,480
that operates both our animal control
and our shelter. Um, they ended the year

845
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:08,800
with a 5.52%
fund balance. Um, so there is work to do

846
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,960
and our director is um very aware of
that and continues to pinch pennies. I

847
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:17,760
will be I will be completely honest.
43,000 is about 40,000 more than we

848
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:23,760
initially thought we were going to end
at when this project came out. So that

849
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:28,159
is due to good good management over at
the shelter of being able to just cut

850
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:35,280
things back a little bit more as we go.
Um emergency management is sitting below

851
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:40,159
that 25%. They're at 3571248
but it is a new millage. So hopeful with

852
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:45,440
this year's budget and next year's
budget we will be able to put um

853
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:48,800
additional funding set aside for that.
Um we have some funds that we

854
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:54,800
traditionally do not carry high fund
balances in just because um of the

855
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:59,360
allocations that come from the general
fund to that. We do like to have a

856
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:04,080
little bit over um just in case there is
some billings at the end. That would be

857
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:07,199
friend of the court um is one of those
that we like to keep just a little bit

858
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:11,840
of money in there in case there's some
bills or the state doesn't pay us in a

859
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:15,600
timely manner um to be allocated for
that. So then we're not sending general

860
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:20,480
fund money that way out of the fund
balance for the year. Um the other one

861
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:25,920
that we do not keep a lot of money in is
the indigent defense fund. They actually

862
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:30,960
they being the state actually will take
any money we have left over at the end

863
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:36,239
of each of their fiscal years and count
that against what they pay us. So

864
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:43,280
keeping money in there does us no good.
Um what you save is used against you.

865
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:50,320
So, we are also um looking at a pretty
healthy E911 central dispatch fund fund

866
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:56,719
balance. Um this again, I will add that
our director of E911 is ready to proceed

867
01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:00,239
with the um tower booster program that
we've been talking about for a year and

868
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:05,199
a half now. Um with the passage of the
millillage, uh there's a lot more uh we

869
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:09,520
feel a lot better about spending such a
large chunk of money on a project. So we

870
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:16,880
will see this also drop as well as it
moves forward. So

871
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:20,719
the child care fund um we have tried to
put a little bit of money into that the

872
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:25,679
last couple years to create actually a
fund balance for the child care fund. As

873
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:34,159
a reminder,
one child with advanced care needs could

874
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:40,480
set us back
anywhere from 250 to $500,000

875
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:44,880
um in a fiscal year. It has happened. It
is scary and that money comes directly

876
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:51,440
from the general fund fund balance if it
happens. So that being said, as we're

877
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:55,440
trying to continue to build this um over
time, that fund balance becomes

878
01:25:52,960 --> 01:26:00,800
important in helping us maintain our
general fund balance as well for a long

879
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:06,080
term. Spongy Moth is healthy. We didn't
spray last year. We have that collection

880
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:10,880
um at a higher millage rate now. So that
is important. Our Veterans Affair Fund

881
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:16,880
remains healthy. They have um been
working at a continued spendown um of

882
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:25,440
their fund balance to utilize that money
in the bank to improve some of the um

883
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:29,360
annual events and um some of the
relationships that we have. for

884
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:33,920
instance, the uh sheriff the sheriff's
representative that they assist with to

885
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:40,159
to have that direct link between
veterans who may be incarcerated or

886
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:46,639
arrested and in need of some veterans um
legal counsel, housing, um medical,

887
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:51,600
those types of things. One of our
largest ones for fund balance is the

888
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:56,800
animal shelter um special projects fund.
And to touch on that, that special

889
01:26:53,840 --> 01:27:04,639
project fund is money that has been
donated um to the animal shelter but has

890
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:10,960
strings attached. Um so they have said,
"I am donating my estate to the animal

891
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:18,880
shelter. However, I only want it to be
used for dog adoptions or I only want it

892
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:24,480
to be used to improve the environment
that felines who are in the animal

893
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:29,760
shelter live in. Um, so it's it's very
specific about what we can utilize that

894
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:34,159
for. Um, so it's as we get those
donations and we have some extremely

895
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:38,719
generous people with some very strong
passions for certain animals. um that is

896
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:41,840
that specific fund that it goes into so
we can make sure that those are managed

897
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:47,120
the way that they're supposed to have
been managed to honor those wishes. So

898
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:53,360
um some of the other some of the other
funds that um we have are

899
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:58,080
we don't really have a a lot but just to
kind of show you where your fund

900
01:27:54,719 --> 01:28:02,159
balances are for the SADs as of January
1 for Higgins Hotton and Lake St. Helen

901
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:05,560
are listed at the bottom. Um, Higgins
was at 2611634.

902
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:14,880
Um, that actually includes the $160,000
that we allocated over. So, obviously,

903
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:20,320
if that allocation from the general fund
fund balance had not been made in 2025,

904
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:28,760
um, we would be at a negative, which
we're not allowed to be at. So, um, the

905
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:28,760
Holton Lake um, one was at 658,51626

906
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:38,000
and Lake St. Helen 24959774.
So both of those are right on par with

907
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:44,280
those projects and the timing of getting
into bidding for building those

908
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:44,280
structures. So

909
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:53,920
2026 revenues to date for our funds. I
divided them into two categories. Um

910
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:59,120
funds 101 general fund through 27 272
which is the juvenile justice fund. Um,

911
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:04,400
as you can see, still a little low on
101 and we will see that within the next

912
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:11,440
few months as those taxes start building
up for the advalorum. We will see that

913
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:15,440
come come to fruition. Um 207 214. So
that are those are special millage funds

914
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:26,320
for both the sheriff and emergency
management. Um nearly 100% for those

915
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:31,920
274 through 861. 861 is um our last um
St. Helen Lake level control structure.

916
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:35,440
So again, you see those special funds as
they come through that are that are

917
01:29:33,679 --> 01:29:43,440
really doing a a good job with the
collection of the millages 298 um which

918
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:49,040
is your veterans affairs as well. So
overall um our fund revenues to date are

919
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:56,800
comparable to where they always have
been. Um there are really few that are

920
01:29:52,639 --> 01:30:00,800
lower. Um EDC special projects obviously
that will remain low because we're not

921
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:05,120
doing anything with that. So there's no
money coming in. So that is why you're

922
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:10,080
going to see revenues low to that area
as well. Um we have not received any

923
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:16,080
allocations for the CPE training fund
yet this year. Uh we'll just say state.

924
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:19,760
Um but there are still funds
available for that training um as they

925
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:24,719
move forward that are actually in the
fund balance for that um law library. We

926
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:31,840
just haven't allocated all the money
yet. Um so that one will will come to be

927
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:38,719
100% by the end of the year
with our EDC revolving loan fund. That's

928
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:42,400
another one that we just we didn't loan
anything so we're not bringing anything

929
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:45,520
back in. Um and we won't be doing that
this year unless there's some other

930
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:50,159
project that comes about and is
presented to the board for that money to

931
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:55,840
be utilized for. Um we are doing the
program income fund which is what we're

932
01:30:52,480 --> 01:31:01,440
collecting to um divvy back out for
those projects, those repairs um in the

933
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:05,920
houses has actually exceeded our our
expectations. It is been a good year for

934
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:11,440
projects and then collecting monies that
is owed to us for that. um the county

935
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:17,520
housing administrative fund. We have
paid out a portion of um what is owed to

936
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:22,560
the Crawford County Housing
Administration for what they have done

937
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:26,719
for us this year so far. Um and that is
money that has been allocated through

938
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:32,159
our actual program income funds because
we exceeded the dollar amount that the

939
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:39,360
state says we have to reach. So,
Commission on Aging, they are still 100%

940
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:45,520
allocated. Um and the only other one is
your airport fund, but the portion of

941
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:49,920
that is um that 883 347 in revenues that
will include the audit adjustments we'll

942
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:55,320
do at the end of 2026 for that state and
federal money that comes in and out.

943
01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:03,760
When we're looking at where we're at for
expenses to date for all of our funds

944
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:10,239
across the board, um we are right on par
at the 50% mark across the board. Um we

945
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:15,600
have some that are lower. 202 is the um
road repair millillage. So those bills

946
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:20,320
have not come into us yet to be
reimbursed to the road commission um

947
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:24,960
because obviously those projects are all
done July, August, early September. So

948
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:30,400
when those comes in, you'll see those
buckets have emptied out, so those

949
01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:36,400
expenses will even out as well. Um we
also are looking at um some of the

950
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:41,040
smaller some of the smaller funds 217 um
to 222. Those ones are ones that we

951
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:47,679
don't normally expend out of anyhow
because they're

952
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:52,800
25 cents on every tax or something that
goes into a welfare fraud account or um

953
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:58,400
something of that nature that we don't
really expend out of. So, as far as

954
01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:02,719
funds 274 through 861,
um you'll see again 283 is your

955
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:08,400
commission on aging. So, that's an in
andout account. Um 292 is childare. So

956
01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:13,920
that's kind of in a graph format is
really nice to look at um that those

957
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:19,840
expenses are being managed well. Um so
there is some of that caveat in there

958
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:24,360
for if if there is an off off chance of
something being expended as well.

959
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:31,440
Really as far as looking at those
different funds with their expenses to

960
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:36,400
date. Um, the biggest ones that have
jumped out at me while I was while I was

961
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:40,239
analyzing um brownfield redevelopment,
that is actually simply they hired a

962
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:45,600
contractor this year. We will need to
eventually do a budget adjustment to

963
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:48,880
match out to what they're paying. Um, so
that is simply a matter of the budget

964
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:53,520
was put in at 1500, then they hired
somebody and actually have projects

965
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:57,280
going on. So an unanticipated expense,
but plenty of money to cover that as

966
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:06,159
well.
um the EDC special projects that is the

967
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:11,440
transfer out to create our um freshwater
trails fund. So the allocation already

968
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:15,360
happened to create that new fund in
there and that's what pushes that a

969
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:21,840
little bit higher. Um correction
training fund is those uh new new

970
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:26,880
officers that are sent to correction
training. We have had some turnover. Um

971
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:31,920
we have a year to get a new hire as a
corrections officer sent to the

972
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:36,120
corrections academy. Um so we have had
several this year. Um

973
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:45,760
again EDC there's no money um being
spent. So in the revolving loan funds

974
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:53,360
for that um and you can see the positive
the same positives for the program

975
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:59,920
income fund and um for the
materials management plan um which is at

976
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:05,040
100% but almost 100%. So we're doing
doing pretty well in those areas as well

977
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:10,800
as they come in. Um our Lake St. Helen,
Holton Lake, um Higgins Lake, Hotton

978
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:15,440
Lake, Lake St. Helen. Um those again are
shots in the dark of how much we thought

979
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:18,880
we were going to spend. Um but if you
look at the total to date, at least it

980
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:26,320
can show you where we're at year to date
for that as well. So the other portion

981
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:29,840
of that um to kind of be considerate and
um to draw to your attention is your

982
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:34,719
last two which are really important to
us 860 and 861. So that is your debit

983
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:39,840
service for Holton Lake and Lake St.
Helens bonds. So, we want those to be

984
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:44,159
fully expended because that means our
bond payments have been paid. Um, Lake

985
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:49,800
St. Helen was paid in full this year and
H Hotton Lake will have one year left to

986
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,800
pay. So,

987
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:58,880
so general fund um all of our major
activities our department fund to date

988
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:03,840
revenues um 000 was our main collection
for the general fund that has your

989
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:09,840
adalorm taxes your um revenues your
court cost allocations

990
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:14,719
um cost allocations from non- primary
departments

991
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:20,239
so we're we're getting there um slowly
but surely we still have about 75% to

992
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:25,199
collect, but considering that more than
half of that revenue that comes in is

993
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:29,520
tax based. Um, and we know that our
taxes aren't fully collected, that makes

994
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:37,280
sense.
For departments 284 through 918,

995
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:40,960
um, we are doing actually fairly well
across the board for all of those and

996
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:45,760
expenses. We don't have anybody
traditionally that's really high um or

997
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:51,040
really low as far as revenues being
collected. Um you can see that that

998
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:56,159
primary the 2026 budgeted to the
revenues to date. You can see that is

999
01:36:52,800 --> 01:37:01,920
really where you have that change um in
those major collection areas not having

1000
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:07,440
collected our full um our full
allocation for the advalorum tax yet. So

1001
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:10,880
that's at 18.8%.
Board of Commissioners, you don't

1002
01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:14,320
collect a lot of revenues, but I want
you to be proud of yourself because

1003
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:19,280
you're at 64.62%.
That is your um those of you that attend

1004
01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:23,679
meetings where there's a pdeium, that is
you attending your meetings because the

1005
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:27,199
county then gets those pdeiums back. So,
if a commissioner in years where you

1006
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:31,760
might go back and see we didn't collect
those pdeiums, that's because nobody

1007
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:35,360
went in person to those meetings. So,
therefore, we did not collect a pdeium.

1008
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:40,560
So, that's kind of like your little
report card right there. So, good job.

1009
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:44,480
Thank you. Um, a jury commission. Um,
that is the reimbursement that we get

1010
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:48,320
from the state based on how much they
decide they want to give us.

1011
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,280
They have a bucket of money. Every year
they decide how much each county is

1012
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:57,119
going to get reimbursed up to a certain
percentage. Um, so that is what we

1013
01:37:55,040 --> 01:38:03,280
budget for traditionally is 2500 because
it can be a shot in the dark as we move

1014
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:09,040
forward. Um,
for me, I just had foyer fees.

1015
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:13,840
So, anytime there's a big foyer, it
makes me happy. Um, some of the other

1016
01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:18,960
areas uh to kind of note on are
elections. That is a reimbursement um

1017
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:23,520
that has come back into us from township
for and school districts for special

1018
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:28,119
elections. Um that offsets the expenses
that were incurred for that as well.

1019
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:36,719
Our courts are actually right where our
courts normally are at this at this time

1020
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:42,320
of year. um central services um is the
50% of our total expenses are reimbursed

1021
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:47,360
by Okam County. So we're right on par
for that. The same is for the district

1022
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:52,800
services fund 287. That is the
reimbursement for expenses that we get

1023
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:56,719
for our shared district services as
well. Um friend of the court, there's a

1024
01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:02,639
certain percentage of money that friend
of the court collects that is returned

1025
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:07,679
to the general fund. um this year those
boxes that have to be checked um for us

1026
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:12,960
to get that money um have all been
checked and um it has been a great year

1027
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:19,679
in that category as well.
Our prosecuting attorney's office um has

1028
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:25,840
received um allocations for certain
representations as far as where we sit

1029
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:29,679
for reimbursements for certain services
that are performed. Um so that's one to

1030
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:33,280
be proud of. They're also going to be
one that's going to be lower in their

1031
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:38,159
expenses because of the turnover we had
at the beginning of the year. So, um,

1032
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:44,480
another area, courthouse security, we
have exceeded um, we have exceeded that

1033
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:48,560
budgeted revenue as well. That is, um,
reimbursements for transfer of our

1034
01:39:46,719 --> 01:39:53,600
federal inmates.
So, that is a that is a great great

1035
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:56,800
thing. Um, and while I'm continuing on
that, because these are both Lieutenant

1036
01:39:55,280 --> 01:40:01,280
Beck and Sheriff's budget, so they'll go
kind of handinhand for me as an attabo,

1037
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:08,239
our corrections, um, corrections
department 351 is already at 76.89%

1038
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:16,000
of their projected um, again, that is in
large part due to those federal inmates

1039
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:21,760
um, and in a portion to the uh, Oscot
County inmates as well. Um but obviously

1040
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:25,840
for us to be that on par and that over
that means that the buildings are

1041
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:30,199
happening and being um done in a timely
manner. So that makes me happy.

1042
01:40:33,679 --> 01:40:40,960
So as we look at our expenses to date
for the general fund um you can see that

1043
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:45,840
50% of central services have expended
which goes with that reimbursement.

1044
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:51,280
um looking forward. Uh buildings and
grounds is a little high. Um Justin's

1045
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:55,600
been very busy fixing things um around
here, but they're within his budget, so

1046
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,119
we will give him that. They just a lot
of things happen in the summer around

1047
01:40:57,119 --> 01:41:05,840
here and then slow down again in the
winter for that.

1048
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:11,920
In our departments, um overall,
obviously, for the most part, things are

1049
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:17,199
on par. Um I'm still a little high. we
have all of our longevity that's been

1050
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:21,679
spent. Um, so I apologize for that, but
we will even out and not not be over

1051
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:25,679
budget this year. Um, we're a little
high in MIS, but that is all those

1052
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:30,480
computers that get purchased at the
beginning of the year. Um, our and I

1053
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:34,080
know this sounds really silly. So, the
mail room expenses are actually a little

1054
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:38,480
bit higher. Um, and one of the areas
that affects our mail room greatly is

1055
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:44,080
the amount of jury service notices we
have to send out. So the more jury

1056
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:49,199
trials we have predicted, the more jury
trial service forms that the clerk's

1057
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:53,400
office has to send out, the more postage
we spent. So

1058
01:41:53,679 --> 01:42:05,199
it all goes together in the long run. Um
we are also um doing really well um in

1059
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:08,080
in most areas for expenses. Um, as you
look across the board, buildings and

1060
01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:14,760
grounds, as I mentioned, is slightly
high, um, but still on track to be on

1061
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:14,760
budget. Oops.

1062
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:24,639
This is the next, um, 286 through 648.
20 286 is the district court. 287

1063
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:34,239
district shared services, 648 is the
medical examiner. um of all of these the

1064
01:42:30,639 --> 01:42:39,920
ones to kind of look at across the board
um looking at the jail and where the

1065
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:46,119
jail actually lies. So they are
currently at 61 um% of their total

1066
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:46,119
expenses

1067
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:52,960
percentile wide expenses to revenues
they are doing much better than they

1068
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:58,159
normally do. So I'm still giving them a
gold star for now. Um some of the other

1069
01:42:55,679 --> 01:43:03,920
areas um that we've been looking at um
OV patrol, some of those come in at the

1070
01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:08,719
beginning of the spring and as we we
move forward with that, you'll see the

1071
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:13,840
rest of that be expended out here um as
OV season hits um a little bit harder in

1072
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:18,080
the fall as well. So that will probably
be fully expended by November would be

1073
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:23,280
my guess. Um the good news with that one
is the grant that we have been awarded

1074
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:28,159
is 100% reimbursement. So, if we go
over, we get what we go over back as

1075
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:33,280
well. So, that's a that's a happy
thought. We're a little bit higher on

1076
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:38,400
our medical examiner um than I would
like to be. I mean, just slightly for

1077
01:43:34,719 --> 01:43:43,560
58% and that is due to having six
unclaimed bodies so far this year. So

1078
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:53,199
just a little 6492990
which is our mental health um that

1079
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:59,360
includes transports on behalf of mental
health and then the appropriation to the

1080
01:43:57,199 --> 01:44:02,639
um
Northern Lakes community mental health

1081
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:07,360
as well for that. So that's right about
50% which sits well. um the employees

1082
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:14,320
hospital insurance that will actually
represent um has a little bit in there

1083
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:19,600
that is leftover expenses um for
retirees that were on the HSA or I'm

1084
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:23,960
sorry HRA. So that trends up a little
bit higher as it does as well.

1085
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:31,760
In regards to
some of the ones I want to point out 992

1086
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:38,080
which is the unit's worker workers
workman insured the work comp that is

1087
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:43,440
our work comp fund. So we pay the work
comp fund in two increments um at the

1088
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:48,080
beginning of the fiscal year and at the
middle of the fiscal year. And as soon

1089
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:54,159
as I receive our audit back that tells
me how much each department and fund

1090
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:58,800
cost for workers compensation, I go
through and I do the allocation through

1091
01:44:55,360 --> 01:45:02,159
the budget. Um, so right now it's at a
negative because that allocation's

1092
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:06,320
already been put in, but I have a bill
sitting on my desk to pay. So you will

1093
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:10,480
actually see that go back up again and
it normally just about evens out

1094
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:13,840
depending on how that audit comes out.
So,

1095
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:20,400
um, we still have transfers out
obviously for MIDC and landfills that

1096
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:24,719
are that are available. Um,
looking at our child care fund. We'll

1097
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:30,960
have additional transfers out for that.
Um, and then that transfers out liquor

1098
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:35,600
tax um is taking money and sending that
out to NMRE when they bill us as well.

1099
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:42,400
So we essentially pay that as they bill
us.

1100
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:47,520
For our payrolls by fund to date, um we
are right on right on trend with where

1101
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:53,520
we always hope to be at this time of
year. Um general fund is at 55.62%.

1102
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:58,719
Um
really the only departments that we have

1103
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:05,920
that are slightly higher than um what we
had actually budgeted. juvenile justice

1104
01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:11,360
is um a little bit over, but there were
um looking at that, the amount of

1105
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:17,040
payments we learned when we were um
looking at budget versus what was being

1106
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:22,400
built through for payroll did not line
up based on a change. So, we'll have

1107
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:25,440
that completely corrected for 2027. Um
Jake and I spent lots of quality time

1108
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:29,920
together making sure that the
percentages line up with the dollar

1109
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:35,280
amounts for moving forward. Um,
basically it represents one additional

1110
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:39,920
payroll. So, and then um our our largest
overages simply because we had no idea

1111
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:45,440
what we were looking at with the special
assessment districts and a um lake

1112
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:52,000
manager. Those obviously are above
budget for um what we would want at this

1113
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:57,040
time of year for that as well. So, but
again, that was a shot in the dark type

1114
01:46:53,679 --> 01:47:01,360
of budget as we moved forward. So,
benefits by fund to date. Um, we

1115
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:06,639
obviously are are one month ahead in our
payments of all of our benefits. Um, and

1116
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:12,400
your benefits includes not only health
care, um, but obviously your dental,

1117
01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:16,400
your vision, um, it also includes
payments for short-term disability as

1118
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:22,239
they come through as well. So, anything
that falls into that category is lumped

1119
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:28,560
up into the benefits for that. Um, it
also includes workers compensation

1120
01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:32,960
payments. So, as the departments were
build by me for workers compensation,

1121
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:38,800
that of course increases their benefits
by fund to date. Um, so the overall

1122
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:42,239
overall um
the ones that you're going to look at

1123
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:48,159
and go, "Oh my gosh." So, sheriff road
patrol, animal control, emergency

1124
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:53,679
management, um, specialty courts, opiate
settlement funds, anything basically

1125
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:59,440
that is over budget for benefits by fund
is directly related to the amount that

1126
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:03,199
was charged for workers compensation. Um
and that is because when they do the

1127
01:48:01,679 --> 01:48:09,199
audit and they're looking at a
historical pattern, um that

1128
01:48:07,119 --> 01:48:15,280
ratio that they use to charge them based
on our total payroll gets adjusted up if

1129
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:21,199
there's more incidents. Uh
my sheriff's department and our animal

1130
01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:28,719
um control program have
been champions of um small incidents,

1131
01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:34,159
nothing major, nothing big. Um, but a
cat bite, a dog bite, a slip and fall,

1132
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:39,360
um, those type of things, those all go
into those workman compensations buckets

1133
01:48:37,199 --> 01:48:44,080
and send us up. Historically, those are
our two highest. Anyhow, this year, we

1134
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:48,320
just have had a couple years of bad luck
as it runs through that. So, um,

1135
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:52,400
emergency management was a new
department, so we took a guess at what

1136
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:57,679
their percentage would be for this. um
and they are going to be a higher rate

1137
01:48:54,639 --> 01:49:01,840
comparable to a share stroke patrol. So
somebody that could potentially be in a

1138
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:05,280
direct line as that moves forward. Opi
settlements, the same thing. We took a

1139
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:10,320
direct
guess um of what that was going to be at

1140
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:15,280
and I anticipated that they would rate
that position um similar to like an

1141
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:19,040
administrative position, but because
it's housed in the jail and deals

1142
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:25,480
directly with inmates, it pushed that
rate up to more close to uh road patrol

1143
01:49:21,679 --> 01:49:25,480
corrections type of

1144
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:32,320
just to keep us up um as a slide because
I know we talk a lot about our HSA and

1145
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:40,239
so I thought it would be good for
everybody to see um the pretty green

1146
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:45,600
color is the percentage of our HSA as
the total cost to our benefits. So just

1147
01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:49,119
an idea of when we're allocating that
money when we're saying that we're

1148
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:53,440
willing to put forward x amount towards
the deductible for our employees. um

1149
01:49:51,840 --> 01:50:00,320
what does that look like out of that
total bene benefit cost for us

1150
01:49:57,199 --> 01:50:06,000
and broken down by fund? Um it averages
about 16% across the board for all of

1151
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:11,119
the funds. Um some higher than others
just depending on usages. Um we have

1152
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:18,560
younger people in our sheriff road
patrol fund. Um so there are more single

1153
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:24,000
plans. Um
so as those come out you can see but the

1154
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:29,719
general average is about 16% of what we
pay for benefits for our employees is

1155
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:29,719
HSA

1156
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:37,840
retirement to date again we are doing
really well on where we're trending

1157
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:45,840
across the board um payments are all up
to date in all of our categories um we

1158
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:52,400
have the back payments um back payments
for making that change over for 261. Um

1159
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:57,440
so there was a jump in between last
quarter and this quarter um because we

1160
01:50:54,400 --> 01:51:00,560
had to do catch up as far as um once
that new plan, that hybrid plan went

1161
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:06,639
into play. They did a big billing
basically is the best way I can think of

1162
01:51:02,719 --> 01:51:12,159
to explain to it. Um but overall we are
doing fairly well with where our

1163
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:16,800
retirement by fund to date is. Um
we do have

1164
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:21,440
um central dispatch obviously we had
that large kind of upfront that had to

1165
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:26,400
go in so that increased that number um
we will eventually um as Jessica moves

1166
01:51:24,159 --> 01:51:30,239
forward um getting some some things
settled we're going to go through and we

1167
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:34,320
will do a a budget adjustment for that
retirement the original budget um we

1168
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:39,760
didn't have those final figures for
hybrid to be approved because of all of

1169
01:51:36,639 --> 01:51:46,920
our timing with the contract last year
um but her budget is able to sustain

1170
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,920
that change so that will work. Well,

1171
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:51,960
that is all I have for the actual
presentation.

1172
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:56,320
» Anybody have any questions,
>> Madam Chair?

1173
01:51:54,719 --> 01:52:03,360
» Yes.
>> Survey and remanumentation.

1174
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:08,000
Is only spent 3.96%.
Is that a seasonal issue or

1175
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:13,520
» just not going to hit budget this year?
>> Nope. They will. Um so that is a um that

1176
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:18,480
is the grant from the state of Michigan
for doing all those corners and what

1177
01:52:16,159 --> 01:52:24,159
they do traditionally is they'll work on
it um those contractors for surveying

1178
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:28,800
will work on that throughout the summer
months and then turn in one big bill to

1179
01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:32,960
us for the amount that was allotted to
them. So it goes from absolutely nothing

1180
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:39,440
except for the teeny bit that we pay to
the survey remon person um to everything

1181
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:41,840
being spent all at once. how they're by
the end of September because they

1182
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:46,119
they'll have to have it all spent by
then to get reimbursed by the state.

1183
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,520
» Any other questions?

1184
01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:05,040
» Thank you, Jody. That was helpful. Very
helpful.

1185
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:12,840
Next we have the allocation of fund
balance overage for 2025.

1186
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,840
You know what might be helpful?

1187
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:25,280
So, I touched on at the very beginning
of this um that uh our fund balance

1188
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:30,880
policy for the county of Ross Common
with the general fund um that if we were

1189
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:34,960
sitting at that over under the
assessment and the decision-making by

1190
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:41,400
the board of commissioners, um the
initial um the initial amount that we

1191
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:41,400
have is $800,14750.

1192
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:53,520
15 cents that the board um has to make a
determination of appropriate

1193
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:59,920
allocations. The policy is that the
first priority is allocation to our

1194
01:53:57,440 --> 01:54:04,400
capital projects fund. Um and that is to
make sure that we're never in the

1195
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:11,280
position that we're in now where we had
to wait seven years to replace a boiler

1196
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:16,400
and a boiler system. Um, I'm sure that's
probably in the long run cost us more

1197
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:24,800
money with inefficiency. So
me, I'm I'm hopeful um to seeing that

1198
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:31,199
continue to grow. So based on um based
on that figure, so I pull it back up so

1199
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:37,679
you had it. Um we have had conversations
um throughout the meetings um for the

1200
01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:43,520
individual budgets. Um, additionally,
there have been conversations um, in

1201
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:49,599
these board meetings of a few costs that
would be looked at as far as

1202
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:53,360
being expenditures from capital projects
in the next two years that have come to

1203
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:58,560
board.
Put it big so you can see that. Um,

1204
01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:04,560
obviously our largest one is that boiler
replacement. Um, that is I put 640 in

1205
01:55:02,719 --> 01:55:07,599
Commissioner Wolson. I know that we
don't know exactly what the bid is, but

1206
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:15,040
I believe that was the highest of those
three lowest. Um,

1207
01:55:10,639 --> 01:55:20,480
and I know that um the low ones,
we also have the cost associated with

1208
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:25,440
putting everybody on that same system to
manage in there as well. So, I know that

1209
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:32,639
that may be something that gets adjusted
um as the committee looks at that um for

1210
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:38,960
moving forward. Um the very first one
which is the BSNA cloud. Um

1211
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:44,960
we are going to the BSNA cloud. Whether
we wanted to go to the BSNA cloud or not

1212
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:52,480
um that is where we are going to have to
go. BSNA is the software company that

1213
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:58,400
runs um a lot of our major think stuff
for day-to-day operations. Um in the

1214
01:55:55,119 --> 01:56:04,320
county administrative side um that is
our treasurer's office, that is

1215
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:09,920
equalization, um that is cash receiving,
that is the general ledger activity,

1216
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:15,840
that is our animal control, um for
licensing issuance, um that is the fun

1217
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:18,960
thing online that everybody can go and
look up what everybody else pays for

1218
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:23,679
their property taxes and who owns what
property. um that is our accounts

1219
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:29,599
payable software and to all of our
employees that is our payroll.

1220
01:56:26,719 --> 01:56:35,280
So they are moving uh BSNA is moving to
the cloud and um either we have to find

1221
01:56:32,719 --> 01:56:42,960
a different software which I'll be
honest neither myself nor um Marcy nor

1222
01:56:39,599 --> 01:56:47,679
our equalization director are um able to
find anything comparable that we're

1223
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:54,320
interested in or that where each module
works for the three different offices.

1224
01:56:50,239 --> 01:57:01,040
um they have given us a uh cost
breakdown of what that looks like for

1225
01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:08,080
us. The initial cost to put that into
play, which would actually need to be

1226
01:57:03,599 --> 01:57:12,560
paid this year in order for us to have
the um in order for us to be able to

1227
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:19,199
have
the project set where we could be active

1228
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:24,000
on the cloud in 2028.
um they would need us to pay that by the

1229
01:57:20,719 --> 01:57:31,280
end of September. So that initial down
payment is $24,890.

1230
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:38,080
Um my request would be that we utilize
the capital projects to put into that.

1231
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:43,920
Um that way there is not a change in
overages in the general fund budget for

1232
01:57:40,239 --> 01:57:50,639
that. Um we can look at that as a
benefit to everybody. um especially when

1233
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:55,920
you throw payroll in there. Um
and it is kind of a drop in the bucket.

1234
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:59,760
I will say that there are two other
payments that will come, but those are

1235
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:06,159
not something that will need to come out
of capital projects. Um there is a

1236
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:12,960
second payment that will be invoiced um
in 2027 or I'm sorry in 2028 once the

1237
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:20,400
subscription starts, once we're active.
Um, but that is actually the new annual

1238
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:23,920
implementation and we don't need to talk
about right now because it gets a little

1239
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:27,119
scary when you start looking at at how
much that costs. Um, but it will be

1240
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:31,599
something that happens. And then the
other one will be in 2028 as well um to

1241
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:36,000
be invoiced upon completion of training,
but we can budget into 2028 for that

1242
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:44,800
based on what we've been forecasting out
so far. Um the second portion of this is

1243
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:51,840
our airport internet project. Um
our airport is not

1244
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:58,719
manned by our IT department. They are
separate. Um they have no connection to

1245
01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:04,000
the county as far as IT and IT support.
Um it leaves us in a couple different

1246
01:59:00,639 --> 01:59:09,679
precarious situations. Um we can't hook
up any type of camera system over there.

1247
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:17,119
Um, obviously just being able to have
that access um and improved improved

1248
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:22,960
internet um as well is a benefit to
anyone who comes to our airport. Um the

1249
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:30,320
total cost of that project is 17,500.
That timeline is October 26. Um boiler

1250
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:34,960
replacement is obviously our largest um
project and obviously that is something

1251
01:59:32,239 --> 01:59:38,960
that we have already um this board has
already made the decision that this will

1252
01:59:36,719 --> 01:59:43,840
will move forward out of capital um
capital projects. It is for the most

1253
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:49,599
part what we have in our fund balance
for capital projects covers the actual

1254
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:55,280
boiler replacement um uh with the
estimate of 640. We discussed the server

1255
01:59:52,639 --> 02:00:00,639
replacement um a little earlier looking
at about 110,000.

1256
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:06,560
Um we have hopefully a sidewalk
replacement for the rest of the building

1257
02:00:03,199 --> 02:00:11,199
um to be budgeted in for 2027
of roughly 32,000. We we'll be doing

1258
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:14,560
about double the work that is going to
happen um beginning in the next couple

1259
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:19,280
weeks on the sheriff's side of the
building. Um, and then potentially if we

1260
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:24,960
can't fit it into the budget, the BSNA
cloud change over on December 27th.

1261
02:00:22,719 --> 02:00:29,000
So that's just my little head. So that
total is 878540.

1262
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:35,119
Um, with that,
>> there was one that I know

1263
02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:41,040
» I missed one.
>> Well, you had to leave when we talked

1264
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:45,520
with Jamie.
>> She's getting a quote for equalization.

1265
02:00:44,159 --> 02:00:50,400
» Okay.
And I don't

1266
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:55,599
» we don't have that yet. Okay.
>> Is that for the total flyover remapping?

1267
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:59,760
Is that okay? My guess is that'll be
probably anywhere between 10 and 20,000

1268
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:03,520
just based on when we did it five years
ago and what that cost was.

1269
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:08,960
» Yeah. I don't know because she talked
about something about 6 in imaging then

1270
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:12,080
down to 3 in. And so she was going to
get some proposals

1271
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:16,000
» on what that looked like.
>> Yep. She copied me on request for that

1272
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:19,520
and as soon as they have it, we'll bring
that in. So, thank you for that. I will

1273
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:24,960
add that with question marks to our
list. Um, your your fund balance for

1274
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:29,400
your capital improvement fund as of
January 1 was $547,8234.

1275
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:39,760
If that kind of helps you in your mind
um with your total bucket of where you

1276
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:45,440
go, plus then you've got another 800,000
that you could do. Um so some of the

1277
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:52,239
other things not talking about capital
projects um that have been discussed by

1278
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:58,560
this board um that I just wanted to
bring forward. Um one of them is we have

1279
02:01:55,040 --> 02:02:05,199
had the conversation of doing a set
aside for HSA funding. Um there has been

1280
02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:09,760
a very passionate commitment by this
board to try to continue to fund that

1281
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:17,360
for as long as possible for our
employees. Um we are looking at roughly

1282
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:22,880
right now for 2027 270,000. That's
without knowing um exactly where we can

1283
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:29,040
as we get a little closer to open
enrollment and we know who has what. Um

1284
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:35,679
that's based on what people currently
have as active benefit types right now.

1285
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:42,000
Um, we have also additionally discussed
continuing to build that child care fund

1286
02:02:39,119 --> 02:02:45,440
um to cover any of those unforeseen
costs. Um, we've had the the

1287
02:02:44,159 --> 02:02:50,800
conversation of, hey, if we could even
get 250,000 in the bank to cover one one

1288
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:55,760
bad kid, um, that would be great. We're
at 102 right now. Um, I'm not saying or

1289
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:59,679
suggesting in any way, shape, or form.
I'm just saying those are kind of max

1290
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:04,880
numbers of what we would be looking for
for that. Um,

1291
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:09,520
my thought was that you guys might want
to put this on like a work session for

1292
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:13,920
discussion moving forward. And
>> I think we do need a work session. I

1293
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:17,760
know that during the different budget
stuff that we've discussed and stuff

1294
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:22,080
like that, knowing what capital
improvements are,

1295
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:29,440
one of the things I'll bring up is
because especially like the boilers, the

1296
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:35,520
BSNA, um the server, those and even
whatever equalization ends up being too,

1297
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:40,080
they benefit the county obviously and
the employees as a whole. So I think we

1298
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:46,480
need to add to the capital improvement
fund but I also believe that for future

1299
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:51,760
I believe in 2027 we've kind of figured
in the HSA. So this bucket would be for

1300
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:57,199
maybe a year where the funds aren't
available

1301
02:03:54,000 --> 02:04:01,119
based on future county needs. So, I
think

1302
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:06,480
a couple hundred thousand to go into
that just to set aside and then maybe

1303
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:11,599
the rest into the child care fund to
still put money in there and not just

1304
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:17,360
leave it out alto together.
But that's just my because the the

1305
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:21,119
boiler project alone would wipe out what
we have in capital improvements.

1306
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:24,960
» When you look at the new sidewalk, the
building was built in 2007. It's 20

1307
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:30,239
years old, I think. Correct me if I'm
wrong, but you said $27,000

1308
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:36,560
this needed.
>> Correct. So, I don't know. I threw round

1309
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:43,679
numbers of like maybe putting 50,000
into child care fund, 200,000 into HSA,

1310
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:51,199
and 550,000 into capital improvements.
>> One more time, sorry.

1311
02:04:46,159 --> 02:04:56,080
like 50,000 into child care, 200,000
into the HSA

1312
02:04:53,440 --> 02:05:00,159
and five and the rest the remaining
because there's some change in there

1313
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:03,360
into capital improvements.
>> It's a good start.

1314
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:09,360
» But just think about it so that on a
work session we can

1315
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:14,159
» Jody mentioned earlier
half a million dollars.

1316
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:16,719
We might want to be more aggressive than
that.

1317
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:27,679
I think it just kind of depends too on
where some of our capital improvements

1318
02:05:25,599 --> 02:05:31,520
come in at
because we definitely don't want to be

1319
02:05:29,119 --> 02:05:36,960
bonding for any capital improvements.
>> That would not be my

1320
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:44,239
» cost more money.
>> So those are just my thoughts on it.

1321
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:46,639
Anybody else's thoughts speak up and
We were talking about for seven years,

1322
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:50,880
eight years.
>> Yes.

1323
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:54,280
» Goes way back to
talking about that.

1324
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,320
» That is fun.

1325
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:09,520
» I really loved seeing this
power. You know, we kind of wrote down

1326
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:13,760
» and all the details. You like to take
that

1327
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:17,760
this information, put it on Absolutely.
All right. Already said yay to both. I

1328
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:22,880
mean, there's certain things if we don't
say the now it's got to be spent.

1329
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:26,719
September, October's around the corner.
We've got to get those people in line.

1330
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:35,920
Correct. There's certain things that
>> like it's Yeah. It stuff he's on a time

1331
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:38,239
line. I know. Um BSNA for sure is on a
time

1332
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:42,400
table.
>> Almost automatically go, they've got to

1333
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:46,880
go. Where are they going? And now what
do we have left

1334
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:50,719
» that we can continue to keep funds good
you know long longevity and not spending

1335
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:53,520
it all at once and going now we don't
have any fund balance to work with you

1336
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:57,360
know
>> so I think putting those key together

1337
02:06:56,159 --> 02:07:00,719
would help
>> in a work session and then I think we

1338
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:05,560
can
give approval quick on the things that

1339
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:05,560
they

1340
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:17,360
» not dragging that out too long so that
we have a higher bid going forward that

1341
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:20,960
Yeah, because when did Andy need a
because I know his was

1342
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:23,040
lunchtime.
>> I was end of September.

1343
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:27,440
» September.
>> Okay. I just wasn't sure if the second

1344
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:32,560
work session was going to work for him
to approve it or if it was going to have

1345
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:37,920
to be the first one before the bid was
possibly no longer valid.

1346
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:42,079
» I will double check the date and let you
know.

1347
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:46,880
» I don't like
necessarily, but these key things with

1348
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:53,440
this number one pager, they put it all
in one. Here's what we need. And that

1349
02:07:50,079 --> 02:07:58,079
way, if we can look at that in advance,
have a one page. We've all heard it,

1350
02:07:54,960 --> 02:08:01,599
seen it, ask questions, and then
because I know the boiler needs to come

1351
02:08:00,159 --> 02:08:06,880
up, too.
>> Yep. Because they'll meet today, they'll

1352
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:11,920
make their decision, and then we need to
be able to approve that for them to get

1353
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:11,920
going on it.

1354
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:21,040
Yeah, I don't want to hold those up.
>> And I know BSNA was the same way.

1355
02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:26,159
In order to get on the books, we need
>> make sure that those Jody are the ones

1356
02:08:22,719 --> 02:08:30,239
that were pretty much guaranteed or not,
>> right? Because the boiler is obviously

1357
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:35,920
priority. I mean, yeah,
>> we have to have hot water and we have to

1358
02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:41,440
have heat, especially coming into
the seasons and we definitely can't

1359
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:44,440
leave the jail without heat and hot
water.

1360
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:50,079
» At that point, we might even get
whatever from equalization

1361
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:54,480
» so that we could prioritize what can we
fit in in 27. Go ahead and try to make

1362
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:57,679
somewhat of a commitment for 28 like,
okay,

1363
02:08:55,199 --> 02:09:02,719
» these were still high priority.
Where are they going to fit?

1364
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:09,040
» And at least if it's not
whomever is needing that knows that it

1365
02:09:04,639 --> 02:09:12,639
could be there for that next year.
>> I don't know if all of it if it all can

1366
02:09:10,639 --> 02:09:17,119
fit and we still got money. I'm good
doing it all. Because they're all

1367
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:20,480
needed. It's just a matter of can
>> right.

1368
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:26,480
» I'm just not quick enough today to put
those numbers.

1369
02:09:22,239 --> 02:09:28,079
» Yeah. nor do I expect you to be
>> Madam Chair?

1370
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:34,400
» Yes.
>> I know at one point we talked about

1371
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:40,079
updating our personnel handbook
>> and then we also

1372
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:46,000
transitioned into talking about hiring a
company for our policies. How do those

1373
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:49,440
fit into the budget? So, the hiring of
that company, which we are going to get

1374
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:53,199
back to now because I think they're
finally to a point where their numbers

1375
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:58,079
below what I was budgeted for, we do
have $10,000 budgeted into the board of

1376
02:09:55,599 --> 02:10:06,239
commissioners budget this year for that
expenditure. So, but um it would be for

1377
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:13,520
one year and that is one of my my issues
is in order to keep that up then I've

1378
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:18,400
got to budget into 27 28 29 um as well.
So that's where I've been working with

1379
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:24,560
them um to move forward and since all of
my conversations now my sheriff's

1380
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:28,960
department and 911 have chosen not to
use that company and move to a different

1381
02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:33,199
company now. So
>> well the problem with that is we have a

1382
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:35,679
need for it this year.
>> Yes.

1383
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:37,280
» Next year we might not have any
>> correct

1384
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:40,280
» need for the service.
>> Correct.

1385
02:10:47,679 --> 02:10:55,760
I think let's we can get that onepage
summary of all the requests or the money

1386
02:10:53,119 --> 02:11:02,800
where we're at which buckets we have
that 800 whatever else

1387
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:10,480
» where would that put us
take you down to this bring it back up

1388
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:13,119
everybody's is doing good with
>> okay

1389
02:11:11,119 --> 02:11:16,480
» and I will get with Marcy and verify the
actual cash in the bank with the

1390
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:24,239
interest that she's accured to date to
make sure you've got that total number

1391
02:11:19,119 --> 02:11:27,840
of this is the actual cash in so yep
because there have been um there have

1392
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:32,159
been interest allocations as well
>> we do that at that September work

1393
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:35,840
session or we put it quickly on for a
vote

1394
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:40,639
» seems like it
>> we'll have to we'll have to find out

1395
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:43,840
when they have to. If we have to call a
meeting, we'll have to call a meeting.

1396
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,360
» Okay with that. I just don't want to
keep them on hold,

1397
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:49,360
» right?
>> Yeah, that was my thoughts. We need a

1398
02:11:48,079 --> 02:11:53,040
special I'm not a big fan of special
meetings, but

1399
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:57,199
» if we need one to get things approved
>> so that people can get discussed it, we

1400
02:11:55,360 --> 02:12:01,280
see all those numbers, we can move
forward and then we'll not have to just

1401
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:06,000
do a special to make the motions to
approve it

1402
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:10,880
» because it's easy for that to
between a work session and everything on

1403
02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:17,400
the agenda. Sometimes it just pushes it
out and I don't want them to be behind

1404
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:17,400
on getting those bids.

1405
02:12:17,679 --> 02:12:22,040
» Yep. Okay.

1406
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:26,920
» Any other questions or comments for

1407
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:41,320
So, we'll have to figure out with that
manual. That's all that.

1408
02:12:44,639 --> 02:12:51,280
Okay.
Um, next we have motions and

1409
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:55,719
resolutions, which there are none. Um,
public comment. Any public comment?

1410
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:00,760
Board comment.

1411
02:13:01,679 --> 02:13:08,800
Anybody? Okay, we have no further
comment. This meeting is adjourned.

1412
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:11,800
Thank you.
>> Perfect.

1413
02:13:15,679 --> 02:13:19,400
» Yeah, that is a lot.