1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Heat. 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,015 Hey, Heat. [music] 3 00:00:27,510 --> 00:00:29,530 » [music] 4 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,079 » I call to order the Rosemont Planning Commission meeting for Tuesday, August 5 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:52,879 25th. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. 6 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:58,879 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 7 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:04,879 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 8 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,880 justice for all. >> Are there any additions to tonight's 9 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,799 agenda? >> Madam Chair, there are no additions. 10 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:13,760 Staff would just note that there wasn't >> Excuse me, Madam Chair. There was no 11 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,680 there are no additions to the agenda. staff would just note that there was a 12 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,600 notice put in the paper for a project located just east of Blaine Avenue and 13 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:25,439 south of County Road 42 that will be on the September uh planning commission 14 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:28,159 agenda. >> Okay. 15 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:32,479 » And that was a request by Opus. >> Okay. Will it be renoticed? 16 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,079 » Um we would renotice it. >> You'll renotice it. Okay. Thank you. 17 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,799 » And it and also sorry Madam Chair, it did not go out. No letters went out. It 18 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:43,040 was only published >> only in the paper. Okay. Thank you. 19 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,479 Is there any input from the audience on items that are not on tonight's agenda? 20 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Okay, seeing none, we'll move forward to the consent agenda. Are there any 21 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:59,880 comments or questions on the consent agenda which contains our minutes of the 22 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:59,880 July 28th, 2026 regular meeting? 23 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:05,600 Seeing no questions or comments, I will take a vote. I will abstain from this as 24 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,840 I was not here for this meeting. So, all those in favor, 25 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,840 » I >> I sorry, let me make a motion first. 26 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:13,680 I'll make a motion make a motion to approve the consent agenda. 27 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,959 » Second. >> It has been moved by Commissioner Reid 28 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:22,480 and seconded by Commissioner Ellis. All those in favor, please say I. 29 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:27,440 » I. I'm not voting. Opposed. >> Okay. When you're gone a month, you get 30 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:31,200 a little rusty here, I guess. Apologies. Moving on. We have no old business this 31 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,360 evening. We have two items under public hearings. We will start with the first 32 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,760 item, which is an Aspenfield item. Request by Aspenfield for a 33 00:02:36,959 --> 00:02:44,959 comprehensive land use plan amendment to change the designation for 1.94 acres 34 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:49,040 along County Road 42 from highdensity residential to community commercial. And 35 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,400 Anthony, I'll turn it over to you. >> Madam Chair, thank you. Uh this is 36 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,800 coming before the planning commission ahead of any proposed development on the 37 00:02:54,239 --> 00:03:00,640 site. uh as the comprehensive plan amendment process is longer than uh the 38 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,040 reasonzoning process due to the fact that it has to go to adjacent and 39 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:09,680 affected jurisdictions for 60 days and then also the plan uh the metropolitan 40 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:15,440 council for final authorization before it can be adopted. So staff is uh had at 41 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:18,400 the advise the applicant to um start with this so that we can get the ball 42 00:03:16,959 --> 00:03:22,159 rolling and then they'll be back with development plans as they move forward. 43 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:27,280 Uh subsequent approvals would be plat site plan reviews things like that. Um, 44 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,920 so this is related to 1.94 acres of outlot B, Emerald Isle, second edition. 45 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Um, and it would be reguing that portion of the site from highdensity residential 46 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:42,720 to community commercial. Uh, in 2024, 192 apartment complex was approved for 47 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:46,959 the site. Uh, the site itself is bisected by a pipeline which really 48 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,560 constrains the site. And um with that original approval for DevCo's 49 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:56,640 development, the apartments were located on the north side, leaving the southern 50 00:03:52,799 --> 00:04:02,400 portion of the site uh underutilized. So um this is the site location. This is 51 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:07,680 the outlot uh of the Emerald Isle second edition. It's approximately 1 uh.36 52 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:12,799 miles east of Akran Avenue. It's adjacent to Aspen Fields, which is here 53 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:16,959 uh north of DCTC. You can see further west is Akran Avenue and here is 54 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Lifetime. Uh immediately to the east of the site is a storm water retention 55 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:28,000 pond. Uh and then uh further east is some farm fields and some residential 56 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:33,040 properties. Uh this area is guided for um commercial development. 57 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:36,080 So just a reminder to the planning commission for those of you who may not 58 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:41,600 have been on the commission at that time. Uh this was the approved site plan 59 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:45,520 for the site itself showing those apartments on the north side. Uh the 60 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:51,440 southwest portion would be where the ponding and some parking would go but 61 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:56,960 really not much utilization for that. So the applicant uh Aspen Field LLC is 62 00:04:54,479 --> 00:05:01,520 developing the land immediately west. Uh they are working to assemble the site 63 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:06,000 and uh make better use of this portion. So the area to be reguided is in this 64 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,880 southwestern portion and really just extending the commercial east here. And 65 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:18,240 as I go on, I'll show you the uh actual land use designation change. Um you can 66 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:23,199 see this uh is the Aspen Fields area with commercial on the south and west 67 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,960 side. Crystal's Cuttlebugs is a daycare center that is already under 68 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:32,000 construction here. Uh this is land that's designated uh and zoned for 69 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:37,759 highdensity residential. And then this uh total 10acre site here was guided for 70 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:44,880 highdensity residential. The applicant is proposing to change this area uh to 71 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:48,560 community commercial. And then this is just a concept plan 72 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:54,080 showing what how the development pattern on those two sites might play out. Uh as 73 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,880 I said earlier, the subdivision action uh of approving a plat would be required 74 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:03,600 before those parcels could be created. Uh the site would actually have to uh 75 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:07,199 get formally reszoned into conformance with the comprehensive plan if a 76 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:12,720 comprehensive plan amendment is adopted by the city. Um and then site plan 77 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:18,160 reviews for each individual uh parcel here. So the applicant is showing this 78 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:23,039 area remaining highdensity residential um probably developed in two phases as 79 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:29,360 the pipeline does bisect these two sites as well uh and then commercial along 80 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:35,280 County Road 42 here u really focusing the ponding in this southeast corner. 81 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,919 Staff did receive public comment that has been provided to the commission uh 82 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:45,280 ahead of the meeting. Um there were five uh main components to that comment 83 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:49,360 letter received um uh related to property values being negatively 84 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:55,919 impacted increase in crime and traffic cond congestion uh noted that noise is 85 00:06:52,960 --> 00:07:01,599 already uh in noisy area the noise would go up acknowledging that county road 42 86 00:06:58,479 --> 00:07:04,960 and DCTC currently do uh create some noise in that area and that there's 87 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:10,400 already vacant and under utilized commercial properties in Rosemont. um 88 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:15,599 the ultimately their overall concern was that the risks of uh regiduing this land 89 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:20,720 would uh fall on the neighbors themselves. Now uh granted the notice 90 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:28,319 that went out to the neighbors showed this uh site location map uh it did not 91 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:34,639 identify the uh where that 1.94 acres would be regued. So it is uh very 92 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:38,400 possible that their um concerns may not be the same seeing that the residential 93 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:45,360 would be still buffering the commercial from the neighborhoods to the north. Uh 94 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:49,120 so um with that being said, uh staff is happy to take any questions uh from the 95 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,240 commission here. The applicant is present who can maybe speak a little 96 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:59,280 further on their their timeline and and and project plans. Um and then obviously 97 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:04,319 it's a public hearing. So >> thanks Anthony. Can you just So 1.94 of 98 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:09,039 what is the total acres that are going to stay commercial there? 99 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:12,240 » I can't stay high density residential. Sorry. 100 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,360 » About 8 acres of of this >> um out lot B. 101 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:21,039 » Okay. >> Cuz it's a 10acre site and it's 1.94 102 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:24,639 acres which would be the commercial. >> Okay. 103 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:31,599 » And and just that building on that. So the um the number of highdensity 104 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:34,800 residential units is not likely to change or is not impacted by this. 105 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,519 Right? So it may still have the exact same footprint for high density 106 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:41,680 residential. Correct. >> It it would likely be lower uh the 107 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:46,399 amount of units allowed just based on the density maximums because there would 108 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,680 be less land available for that could used to calculate towards the the 109 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:56,000 residential units. So, it' likely be a reduction in in numbers overall than 110 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:03,279 what would have been allowed if it was just all high density residential. Um, 111 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:05,920 but uh I I without having plans, I can't say how many units it would actually end 112 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,480 up being. >> Got it. Thank you. 113 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:15,040 » Can you I feel like you had a a visual of the apartment 114 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:20,880 » there. Okay. So, this was the apartments that was on that B component, 115 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:26,320 » correct? Yep. This was uh approved. This was a project that Devco uh brought 116 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:31,600 forward back in 2024. Uh and it was two unit or two buildings 117 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:38,480 with 96 units in each one. Um and then this would be the um 118 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:43,600 combined A and B here for the Aspen field um highdensity residential piece. 119 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:48,959 And then this would be the remainder of the highdensity residential available to 120 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:53,839 them. The ponding would stay as high density residential as well. Also note 121 00:09:50,959 --> 00:09:56,800 that this is the the concept provided by the applicant. 122 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:01,200 » Okay. Is Oh, go ahead. >> Would that whole area then go under a 123 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:03,760 new like site plan review then? >> Yes. 124 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,600 » Yep. Anything that would happen on this on either any of what you can see here 125 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:10,080 in the concept would require site plan review. 126 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,160 » What about the part that's already been approved? Does that have to come back 127 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:20,399 now? Um well it likely would not be able to develop uh as shown if the ponding is 128 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,800 taking up a fair amount of it. So it would have to come through for another 129 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,640 okay review. >> Okay. But we don't know if they're still 130 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:29,760 planning to build similar unit size other than 131 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:34,000 » No, I think and I would defer to the applicant and certainly invite them up 132 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:39,680 during the public hearing um how they would see that working on there. As far 133 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:43,440 as fully built out, probably two phases. It would definitely be two buildings I 134 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:46,320 would say just based on the way the site is split up with that pipeline easement 135 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,360 in the center. >> Okay. 136 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:54,079 » And with those at this time we we would not have a traffic uh analysis, right? 137 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:57,120 It would be with the site plan review. >> Yeah. We would be looking at the traffic 138 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,120 impacts with a site plan review when we knew how many units there are and things 139 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,640 like that. >> Okay. 140 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,360 » With the commercial where it's at, is there thought that the commercial would 141 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:12,160 connect to I see a little stub there. So, is that 142 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:16,399 going to connect to that greater site and exit onto Kamera as well? 143 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:21,920 » There would be an access point. Staff would would expect an access point to 144 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:26,959 align with Acer Avenue uh here. Uh that would probably be the only access point 145 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:30,480 up on Kamera. Uh and that would be consistent with what was approved prior. 146 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:35,120 » Okay. So, there wouldn't be anything flowing from the commercial up through 147 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:39,839 to Acer. Uh there would probably be internal private drives uh but not a 148 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,680 public road through there. >> Okay. So from the commercial there could 149 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,079 be a private drive from that commercial kind of on the bottom there could be a 150 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,600 private drive going up there. >> Yeah. 151 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,519 » Okay. So it is I I'm just thinking like could 152 00:11:51,839 --> 00:11:56,880 commercial traffic cut through there to get to Kamera? 153 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,360 » They could, but potentially probably isn't the most direct route. 154 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,839 » Okay. >> Yes. Um, 155 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:12,399 so the the pipeline that goes through there that we see, it was my 156 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:16,880 understanding that that's why um originally the pond for those two 157 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:23,680 apartment buildings was going to be more closer to County Road 42 because nothing 158 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:28,160 could be going over the gas line, the pipeline, I'm sorry. Um, so what if I 159 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:34,480 see this parking lot, isn't the parking lot kind of going over that pipeline? 160 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:38,800 And I thought that's something that they >> uh staff it's staff's understanding that 161 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:43,040 the applicant has had um more conversations with the pipeline easement 162 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,440 holder about what would be allowed within that easement area. 163 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:48,240 » Okay. >> Than what Devco had probably been able 164 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:51,440 to achieve. >> Okay. I just excuse me [clears throat] 165 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:56,320 thought that there could not not be any like paving over the pipeline is my 166 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,959 understanding just in a generic sense. >> Right. Um well as you can see here there 167 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:05,760 was some drives that went over that. um Devco maybe didn't want to have in-depth 168 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:10,560 conversations about, you know, getting further access into that easement area. 169 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:15,440 » Um I would defer to the applicant, but in our staff's conversation with them, 170 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:19,519 uh they have been able to get some um encroachments approved by them. As you 171 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:23,839 can see, there's a little bit of the uh building showing in there, too. And I 172 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,800 believe that it would be about 10 ft of building could go into that easement 173 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,600 area. Again, I would defer to the applicant, but it's it's staff's 174 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:34,639 understanding that the conversations regarding what could occur within that 175 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:39,040 easement area have been a lot uh more fruitful than what the previous project 176 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,000 proposer was able to achieve. >> Okay. Thanks. 177 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,760 » And there would need to be those agreements as part of 178 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:50,160 » Yeah. Encroachment agrees agreements with the easement holder for sure. 179 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:54,480 » Okay. Any other questions for staff at this time? Yes, Commissioner Ellis. 180 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Again, just so that I can focus on what we're talking about today, the only 181 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:03,440 thing that we're talking about changing is the area on the south of the B 182 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,600 parcel. Exactly. So, if we look at Yeah, it's just that part. So, the part on the 183 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:11,760 other one on this one that's already zoned commercial south of A is already 184 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:15,600 zoned commercial. So, we're not discussing that at all. We're just 185 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,480 discussing this part on the south part of B. Perfect. 186 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:23,120 » Correct. Correct. Um, Commissioner Ellis and and Madame Chair, uh, when the 187 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:26,560 applicant originally came forward to the city with their plans for Aspen Field, 188 00:14:25,199 --> 00:14:30,880 staff did say, you know, you should really reach out to, uh, the owners of 189 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:36,079 this land east of you. It could probably be better assembled and make made better 190 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:41,120 use of um, just given the the way the pipeline is and and whatnot. So, uh, 191 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:46,560 they did, uh, begin that process and that's where we are today. 192 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:49,519 » Okay. Any other questions for staff? No. 193 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,880 » Okay. Thank you. This item is a public hearing item. So, at this time, we will 194 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,639 open up the public hearing. Anyone in the audience that would like to speak on 195 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:01,959 this item may do so at this time coming to the podium stating your name and 196 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,959 address for the record. 197 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,120 » Good evening. My name is John Anderson. I'm the uh representative for the 198 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:16,880 developer Aspenfield LLC. Uh we were here a little about a year ago uh doing 199 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:22,560 the original phase that's currently under construction and uh we have like I 200 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:26,000 said uh put a contract under place for this additional 10 acres to the east of 201 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,920 the original Aspen Fields. If you've been out there lately there is 202 00:15:28,145 --> 00:15:33,120 [clears throat] a uh uh Crystal Cuttlebugs daycare under construction. 203 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,440 It's all framed up. That's the first building going in. Uh you can see that 204 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:42,079 by the city uh wellhouse and building. Our private street that comes off Aspen 205 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,959 Avenue is paved at this point. Here's a few uh finer, you know, minor items. We 206 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,880 still got to put the sidewalk in, but we're waiting for the sewer and water 207 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,160 connection to be completed. Um for the daycare, which is done now, so we expect 208 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,759 sidewalk probably in the next few weeks to be put in out there along Aspen 209 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Avenue as well. Uh we've been working with the city staff to actually extend 210 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,759 it all the way to Conamera across the city pond. So it'll be a connection all 211 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:10,079 the way from County Road 42 up to Kamera Trail. Uh basically what [clears throat] 212 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:15,040 we're proposing here is uh we do have a uh senior housing uh company that has a 213 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:20,079 contract to purchase both A and B on this map. That entire 214 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:23,759 um I guess highdensity area. Uh they were in place when we had our original 215 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:27,519 10 acres and as we went through discussions and some due diligence stuff 216 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:33,279 with them, they kept asking for more land. uh once the contract that the pre 217 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:37,360 the the Emerald Isle outlot owner had uh expired or I think it got cancelled, we 218 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:41,519 then went to them and then uh worked a deal out with them and we actually 219 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:45,120 enlarged this and as part of our design, we actually wanted to extend our private 220 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:49,680 road a little bit further to the east and that allowed for a couple additional 221 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:53,680 commercial buildings um on the along County Road 42 and then the the higher 222 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:58,800 density the senior housing complex would go to the north. Uh we do expect a road 223 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,639 over on the east end to uh line up with Acer Avenue. That's probably going to be 224 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,319 more of a access into their parking area up in that location. And then where that 225 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:10,000 stub road is, there will be some sort of private drive that'll be part of like an 226 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:13,760 HOA that'll run through and also connect to Knamera. That would provide access 227 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,280 through the commercial out to Aspen Avenue and up to Kamera. As part of 228 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,199 that, we are actually currently working on plumary plat drawings, final plat 229 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:24,799 drawings, and and we'll be submitting for plumary final platin resoning here 230 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:28,880 in the near future. that reszoning would basically mirror this comprehensive plan 231 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:34,400 request. So it' go to a commercial zoning versus the residential zoning for 232 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:39,039 them that area along County Road 42. So we are working on this to satisfy the um 233 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:43,600 senior housing buyer which was something that when we did the original Aspen 234 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Fields um it was talked about about a lot a lot of multifamily in this area 235 00:17:45,679 --> 00:17:51,520 and senior housing would be a you know good fit if you could find it. We do 236 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:54,799 have that buyer in place and they will be coming forward in the near future 237 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:58,559 most likely with some sort of concept site plan review for you and there might 238 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,400 be a little tweaks one way or the other with that road access but it is expected 239 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:05,760 and that's why we don't show it now because they'll probably shift based on 240 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,080 their ultimate design where that's going to be. Um, as [clears throat] far as 241 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:14,880 commercial goes, we do have another commercial lot under contract um uh with 242 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,880 a pet hospital. We've had multiple other commercial entities talk to us over the 243 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,480 last few months. Uh nothing else is under contract right now, but there are 244 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:28,799 people looking and we do expect to get these sold and ultimately built out as 245 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:32,960 well. Um as far as uh uh the private street, we do have an HOA in the current 246 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:37,120 phase that will manage that private street from a commercial standpoint. The 247 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:41,520 multifamily portion will be part of that HOA as well. That will be expanded onto 248 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,760 this property once we extend our road further east. And we will be 249 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:49,679 replplatting our multifamily lot. And then there's an outlot in our southeast 250 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,720 corner, which we're which is currently a pond. If you go out there and look, that 251 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:55,840 pond will be moved. Even though we just finished it, it's going to be refilled 252 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,679 in moved over to the east. And we're going to put all the ponding in the very 253 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,880 southeast of the the new addition there. And then we'll have commercial all the 254 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:08,240 way along that access road, which gives good access to Aspen Avenue and 42 in 255 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,679 those areas. So So with that being said, um that plat will be coming in soon. 256 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:16,400 will be replplatten. Like I said, the the commercial lot, the outlot, and 257 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:20,240 actually um the highdensity residential is part of a new plat. So, you will see 258 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:24,240 an overall layout that includes over half of the existing aspen fields 259 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:27,760 because lot lines will be adjusted. And as we've been discussing with commercial 260 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,480 buyers, you know, that potentially shifts the line one way or the other 261 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,160 depending on how much acreage they need and the size of the building or look at 262 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,919 parking, things of that nature. So, each of those lots will eventually have a 263 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:42,400 site plan that comes before you as well. um gets reviewed by city staff and uh 264 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:47,120 basically tonight we're looking for the comp plan amendment to to guide that to 265 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,559 the commercial um which is the exact same designation to the west there and 266 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,880 we know it takes a little bit longer going with the mech council and all the 267 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:58,559 jurisdictional notification um we're hoping to have our plat stuff submitted 268 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,919 here this week but uh we're about two weeks away so it'll be probably based on 269 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:06,240 the next submitt so you should see something here in early September for a 270 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:10,960 full submitt for the rest of the the applications we need So, with that being 271 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:14,640 said, I guess I'm here for Oh, gas line. Um, you talked about that. We do have an 272 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,400 encroachment agreement with the gas company. That gas line is an abandoned 273 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:23,600 line, so it's not an active line at this point. Our encroachment agreement does 274 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:28,240 allow for roads, paving, you know, um, parking lots to encroach over that uh, 275 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:33,760 easement area. We can also encroach on the south part of the line, the south 276 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:36,720 half of it up to 10 ft uh, of the gas line that's in the ground with a 277 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:39,760 structure. On the north side, we cannot do that, but our encroachment agreement 278 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:43,280 does allow that on the south side. So, there will be some encroachments into 279 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:47,360 that easement. And as you seen on that previous one, uh they they were crossing 280 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,559 it, but not encroaching. And we were able to work that encroachment agreement 281 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:54,320 out on the original phase of Aspen Fields and are working that now on the 282 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,640 balance of the site to do the same thing. We did talk to them about 283 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:59,919 completely abandoning the line and pulling the line out of the ground, but 284 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,280 it's it's in the hundreds of thousands to do that, which wasn't feasible. So, 285 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:07,679 this encroachment agreement was the best next best thing. So, um, so with that 286 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,240 being said, I'm here for any questions, um, if you have any. So, 287 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,600 » perfect. Thanks, John. One other question. Um, on the apartment plan, I 288 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:18,559 don't know if you know this since the submitt isn't forward yet, but is the 289 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,440 number of units expected to be lower than what Devco was proposing. 290 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:29,039 » I I don't Yeah, because there's a little bit less uh high density acreage there. 291 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:33,600 So Devco I think had theirs at um what do you say 192 and then we also had some 292 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,120 commercial or highdensity residential on our side and what they're looking to do 293 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,000 is kind of create more of a campus feel where there'll be different types of 294 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,919 structures different types of units in there kind of a different range and it 295 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:47,919 will all be for senior housing. So, the exact layout and exact thing, we've had 296 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,840 some discussions, but they're kind of putting that stuff together right now. 297 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:54,480 And like I said, I'm I'm not really the one, you know, putting that design 298 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:58,159 together, but they will be coming forward in the near future with more 299 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:03,360 information on that. So, >> okay. Thank you. Any questions from the 300 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:06,320 commission for the applicant right now? >> Okay. I'll ask you to stand by in case 301 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:10,280 there's other questions that come up. >> All right. Thank you. 302 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:10,280 » Thank you. 303 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:17,159 There's anyone else in the audience who would like to speak? You may do so at 304 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,159 this time. 305 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:36,400 » My name is Robert Elliot. I live at 14349 Acer Avenue. Um now, um are we 306 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:42,559 here tonight just to approve the change from high resident um high density 307 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,960 resident to CC for the outlined area? Yes. 308 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,200 » And nothing further is being discussed tonight. 309 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:51,360 » Correct. That is correct. It is just the outlined area 1.94 acres that's moving 310 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:56,000 from highdensity residential to community commercial. 311 00:22:52,640 --> 00:23:00,080 » Okay. So any future plans for parcels A and B will be subject to future 312 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:06,960 meetings. >> Yes. Um some of those are already zoned 313 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:13,520 guided and or zoned um well I understand um last fall or summer 314 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:21,280 there was a proposal to put a high density um uh two building I think um 315 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:27,840 residential apartment complex in there with various zoning um uh changes to it 316 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:33,440 or or um um waivers >> variances. Yep. 317 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:38,640 » Variances. Um, and that was subject to a review that ultimately I believe fell 318 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:42,640 through. >> Um, I will let staff speak on that at 319 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,919 the end of our public hearing, but the the site there will be a site plan 320 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:50,480 review which would come through for the for A and B parcels again. 321 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:55,600 » So, um, nothing we decide here today is going to be an approval for them to 322 00:23:53,039 --> 00:24:00,559 proceed with the development of A and B. >> Correct. It's just the approval for the 323 00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:03,600 change from the guiding of comprehensive plan guiding from highdensity 324 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:08,080 residential to community commercial for that 1.94 acres. Okay. That 1.94 acres 325 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:12,480 will also have to come in for a site plan review um of at such time that 326 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,039 would show more detail about what they're expecting to build on that land. 327 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,840 » Okay. >> Yes. 328 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:19,080 » Thank you. >> You're welcome. 329 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:36,720 Melvin Evans, 14349 Alderway. Uh, couple questions. One, uh, for the 330 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:40,960 commissioner, the entire party, um, is this the first time you guys have seen 331 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:45,760 this outline? I've always wondered why public comment comes the day you guys 332 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:48,640 vote. I feel like you guys have seen it, already kind of make up your mind of, 333 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:53,919 hey, we're going to approve this, yes or no. So, our concerns kind of, in my 334 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:01,200 opinion, go on deaf ears. Not here to object. I was here back in January or 335 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:07,120 yeah 24 I believe was the winner and I objected I was against the additional 336 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:12,799 192 units going in. We wanted more commercial. Um 337 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:17,520 back then in 24 the pipeline wasn't an issue when they came across with their 338 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:22,240 plans that a lot of new faces up here but um that uh was approved now it is an 339 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:26,559 issue which is why it's getting reszoned. Um my concern is that it's 340 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,440 going to continue getting reszoned and they're going to mean more and more 341 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:35,279 commercial issues going to keep moving east uh which will lower the values of 342 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:40,559 the Konamara traffic. You mentioned the noise. Um we already get a decent amount 343 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:46,080 of noise from DTC. Um is there any plans to put up any kind of barrier in the 344 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:50,799 future? Whether it's additional trees, uh some type of privacy fence. I'm not 345 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:55,600 sure what might help reduce the noise um in that area. That's it. 346 00:25:53,200 --> 00:26:01,799 Thank you. Is there any other comments from the 347 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,799 public on this item this evening? 348 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,120 Okay, seeing none, I will make a motion to close the public hearing. 349 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,000 » Second. >> It's been moved by Commissioner Kenner, 350 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,720 seconded by Commissioner Reid to close the public hearing. All those in favor, 351 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,000 please say I. I. >> I. Opposed. 352 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:20,480 » Public hearing is now closed. So, I'm going to start with um got a couple 353 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:25,919 follow-up items from from the public hearing. Um, Anthony, maybe you can 354 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:32,720 start with the the comment or question from Robert on the Devco falling 355 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:37,279 through. I I believe it was an approved submission, but is not moving forward. 356 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,640 Like, it's no longer they're no longer moving forward. They're no longer in the 357 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,640 mix. >> Madam Chair, yes, the Devco did receive 358 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:49,520 approval. Their next step would have been to get building permits and begin 359 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:54,159 construction. Um obviously what if for whatever reason it's outside the city's 360 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,000 purview why they didn't move forward. Um things don't move forward for a number 361 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:02,159 of reasons all the time. Uh which is why we usually don't talk about things until 362 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:05,760 we have applications because we get phone calls, we get questions, we have 363 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,360 meetings with people and then nothing happens. And if we told everybody about 364 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:13,200 everything that we meet with people on that doesn't happen, they could make 365 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:18,240 decisions like buying or selling a house and then whatever they were afraid of 366 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:23,600 doesn't happen. Well, then you know they're not going to be happy with that 367 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:28,400 result either. Um so that being said, there were approvals for that. Um now 368 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,559 because the site plan would be changing, there would have to be new approvals 369 00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:38,080 made. Now, uh I would just also note that because these are uh the A and B 370 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:42,880 there are guided and zoned for highdensity residential. If someone if 371 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:46,240 an applicant came forward to construct a highdensity residential project that met 372 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,440 all the requirements of the code, the city would have a hard time not 373 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:55,600 approving it. Uh the purpose of having a po uh zoning ordinance is to identify uh 374 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,200 development standards like setbacks, landscaping, number of units, building 375 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,440 heights, things like that. And if someone were to come through with a plan 376 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,520 that meets all of those requirements, the city would have to make findings. 377 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,159 You yourselves uh as well as the city council would have to make findings to 378 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:18,000 deny that request uh in a way that shows that it doesn't meet the in purposes, 379 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:21,919 intent or standards of the code. uh but uh they would still need a site plan 380 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,520 review and if there are any deviations of the code needed they would have to 381 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,000 get formal approval of those after going through the planning commission and city 382 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720 council >> and those will have public hearings just 383 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,480 like we are doing tonight. >> Correct. Every every approval that would 384 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:39,679 be needed for this other than the final plat would require a um public hearing 385 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,919 which would go up with letters out to everyone within 500 feet of the site and 386 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:49,440 published in the newspaper and posted on the city's website and at city hall. 387 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:53,039 Okay, thank you. Um the next one I'm going to take the first 388 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:59,200 couple questions from Melvin and then I'll ask um Anthony, you Adam, Julia to 389 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,039 to chime in or the other commissioners. So um a little bit about our process. So 390 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,399 you'd asked if this was the first time we we are seeing this tonight. It is the 391 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,559 first time we're hearing staff's presentation on it tonight. However, we 392 00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:14,480 do get a packet emailed to us the week prior to the last week at the end of the 393 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:19,279 week last week. we get a packet emailed to us um with all the information in it 394 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:23,440 which we read and um have a time where we can ask questions to staff as well as 395 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,600 go visit the sites and such before we are here tonight hearing about it. Um we 396 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:32,720 do not need to vote on things tonight. So staff puts it before us with their 397 00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:38,480 recommended motions. And there are times um not depending on the item um very 398 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:42,000 complex items or items where we um feel we need more time to think it through or 399 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:46,399 we want staff to follow up on things, we will continue an item to a future public 400 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:49,360 hearing. So or a future meeting. Um we may hear the public hearing, close the 401 00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:54,320 public hearing, and still continue the item. So So while we we may be seeing it 402 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:57,600 for the first time, it I would say we we learn about it a couple days in advance. 403 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:02,640 we are able to do some of our research and read about it and then come hear the 404 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:07,120 presentation and hear the public comments and then make either make a 405 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:11,440 decision or move forward um continue the item to a next meeting. Um is there 406 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:16,320 anything any other commissioners would add on our process? 407 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,760 just just elaborate and that we do drive around these sites and take a look at 408 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:23,919 what's being proposed, how does that fit, what are the houses nearby, what 409 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,559 would it be like if I lived right there to really get a feel for how this would 410 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:31,919 fit into our community and meet our overall vision for the city and 411 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:32,799 interconnectedness and being a friendly place to live. 412 00:30:32,711 --> 00:30:36,000 » [snorts] >> And I would say, well, while I 413 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,880 personally walk into the meeting with with thoughts on the item, I don't have 414 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:44,720 my mind made up 100% because I need to keep an open mind to hear staff, to hear 415 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:49,440 the applicant as well as to hear the public that are here to speak on it. So, 416 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:53,039 um, obviously I've I've read it, I've thought through it, I've thought about 417 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:56,880 questions and things I have, but then I would, um, the public hearing is a time 418 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,440 where we take that into account before we make decisions. So, um, I do want you 419 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,480 to know that your voice and that you're heard when you come here. Um, and I 420 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,399 personally do take that into consideration before I make a decision. 421 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:16,240 » Madam Chair, I would also add, um, we're lucky to have a commission that has been 422 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:20,399 in its role uh, for quite a while. Um, many of you have were here when Devco 423 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:24,080 came through. You heard concerns raised by neighbors, a lot of the same 424 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:28,720 concerns. You heard that a lot of the neighbors want more commercial. Um, you 425 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,640 heard that neighbors were afraid of of noise, um, but they wanted more 426 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:36,720 commercial, which is a kind of a contradictory thing. But, uh, that's all 427 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:41,760 to say that, um, what you hear tonight isn't doesn't make up the entirety of 428 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:46,000 your knowledge base for making decisions related to planning and zoning here at 429 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:51,600 the city. So, don't uh don't discount yourselves in that regard either. 430 00:31:50,002 --> 00:31:55,760 [laughter] >> Yes, you did. You did say you voted for 431 00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:00,799 more commercial. Um, yeah, and just on on this property, I think it is it I am 432 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,360 excited about the the proposal that we're going to see in a few months 433 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,840 coming forward for senior housing and a combination of A and B. I think it's um 434 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:13,760 could be a good mix with the additional commercial there. Um, the other comment 435 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,840 from Melvin, um, two more. One was the concern about continuing to get reszoned 436 00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:22,000 to the east. And I just did want to call out because I believe that large 437 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:26,080 property to the east is already zoned commercial. 438 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,760 » Correct. That is um guided and zoned for commercial development. 439 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:35,200 » So everything in that red box is currently zoned as commercial. Um now 440 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,519 » also, Madam Chair, this is storm water infrastructure. I it would take a 441 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:45,120 considerable effort to develop that specific parcel. It's not unheard of or 442 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,519 impossible, but uh that is something to also take. 443 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,760 » It's more to even further to the east, but that's that's commercial zone or 444 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,320 guided commercial at someday when that redevelops. 445 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,360 » I was actually going to ask a question about that in terms of like the private 446 00:32:56,159 --> 00:33:03,760 road. Do you ever foresee a time where that road would need to be a through 447 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:07,947 street to that other commercial area? I think we would not be able to to say 448 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,120 one way or the other until we have [snorts] 449 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:16,240 development progressing further to the east to see how it goes. Um the city is 450 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:21,840 beholdened to the county as far as access off of County Road 42. Um there 451 00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:27,120 is immediately east of that commercial area Audrey Avenue which is planned to 452 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:31,519 be a signalized intersection there. Um it might be something similar to Aspen 453 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Avenue where access into here would come off of Audrey Avenue uh with a secondary 454 00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:42,000 access up to Kamera um just to allow people to the north to get access um 455 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,320 without having plans. I can't say how it would actually shake out, but it would 456 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,960 be probably similar to kind of how we're seeing development occurring on there. 457 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:56,960 Uh Kamera is a major collector. It is the primary eastwest road that uh 458 00:33:53,600 --> 00:34:03,279 relieves County Road 42. Um and it is planned to extend all the way east to 459 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:08,000 Blaine Avenue and line up with uh 140th Street there. 460 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:12,560 » Thank you. Um the last comment from Melvin was around noise and what 461 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:18,399 obviously it's outside of our kind of our reguiding tonight. Um but the noise 462 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:22,720 conversation we did read about it in the letter as well and what maybe can be 463 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,760 done to help reduce noise for for residents. I don't know if there's any 464 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:29,200 thoughts on that. So development can do a lot for reducing noise. The apartment 465 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:35,359 buildings themselves would be a barrier from County Road 42. Um landscaping that 466 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:42,159 is installed as part of development both uh within parking lots and uh around uh 467 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:47,599 the buildings and landscaped areas. Um those would do more to buffer noise. The 468 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:53,200 county again, not to put everything on them, but it is very easy to do. They 469 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:56,879 may someday find a need for noise walls. We don't really see them along County 470 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,920 Road 42. I don't know that we would see them. Um but uh development that 471 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:07,040 includes BM and landscaping and buildings will do some to to alleviate 472 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:12,000 that. But um staff does appreciate acknowledging that County Road 42 is a 473 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:18,400 big noise producer um and has been for you know 20 30 years. 474 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:23,680 » Okay. Thank you. With that, are there any comments or questions from the 475 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:28,000 commission before we move forward? Yes, Commissioner Ellis. 476 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:32,240 » So, in talking about notice that residents are going to get and things, I 477 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,359 can't tell on this. So, it's we give notice for everybody who's within 500 478 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:39,760 ft. >> Correct. 479 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:44,480 » When the plans come forth for that community commercial area, is that 480 00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:48,000 within 500 ft by the time we get across Kamera and the folks that live on Acer 481 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:53,040 Avenue? So, are they going to be notified or how is that? they so it kind 482 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:59,839 of depends on what all gets applied for at once. If the if they come in and 483 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:04,640 apply for a plat, it would con contain all of this whole parcel. Everyone 484 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:09,599 within 500 ft of this entire parcel would be notified when that plat comes 485 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:14,079 through. Uh once it's platted and those are individual parcels, the notice is 486 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,560 sent is measured from the parcel boundaries. We just have to have a 487 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:22,800 standard to to measure from. Um it's entirely likely that we get the plat 488 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,480 request with a resoning and site plan review. We the commission is used to 489 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,800 seeing several things come through for a project as at once. Uh but staff would 490 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,839 also let the public know, especially people that are watching that you can 491 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:38,320 sign up on the city's website and get emails of every agenda for whichever 492 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:42,160 public meetings you want to receive them for. You can get emailed whenever 493 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:45,599 there's a planning commission agenda published. You can get emailed a 494 00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:50,320 notification for that. council meetings, parks and wreck meetings. Um, so for 495 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:55,440 people that do like to know what's going on, I know I do personally, it's why I 496 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,040 like my job. Um, sign up for those meetings, get those agendas in your in 497 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:06,040 your email because then you really can stay on top of everything that that 498 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,040 might not reach your mailbox. 499 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,640 » Thank you. Good question, Commissioner Ellis. 500 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:15,280 » I just have a comment. >> Yeah. So, 501 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:21,520 » um, being on the commission for several years now, it's it's always been, um, 502 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:27,599 exciting to see commercial development along County Road 42. I think it has 503 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:33,440 been um, planned for that for many years. As our city moves further east, 504 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:39,760 um, amenities are asked for by residents. Um, it's along a busy 505 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,480 collector, County Road 42. So, I I'm excited to see some commercial 506 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:51,040 development there and especially um at some point if if and when those um 507 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:55,359 buildings possibly become senior housing um you know, a lot of them don't 508 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:59,760 necessarily, you know, drive and they uh would be probably pretty excited to have 509 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:04,560 some commercial um development there to to access without having to maybe have a 510 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,640 vehicle. So, um, as we move further east, I'm just excited to see more 511 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:16,400 commercial development in the areas that were, um, planned for it ahead of time 512 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:21,280 or reszoned. So, that's my my take. >> Yes. Okay. 513 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Anyone else? >> I thought it was well said. I I agree. I 514 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:29,359 think it's this will be a good fit there. I think the uh the um the high in 515 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,800 residential create a nice buffer there too. And and to your point, Anthony, I 516 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,680 think create actually help with the noise reduction overall because majority 517 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:41,599 of that will be coming from 42 and DC DCTC. So I think this is overall a 518 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,320 pretty solid plan. >> Yeah, I agree. Getting those buildings 519 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:49,359 built is going to help buffer that noise, be a big buffer to that noise, 520 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:54,400 the the buildings and the landscaping. Okay. Well, with that, do we want to 521 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:57,359 entertain a motion? Motion to recommend the city council 522 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:03,760 approve an amendment to the Rosemont Comprehensive Land Use Plan to redesate 523 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:08,160 1.94 acres located 36 miles east of Akran Avenue and north of County Road 42 524 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,560 from Highdensity Residential to Community Commercial. 525 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,599 » Second. >> It's been moved by Commissioner Reid, 526 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,079 seconded by Commissioner Bugai. All those in favor, please say I. 527 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,599 » I. >> Opposed? 528 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:24,320 » Motion carries. This item will go forward to the city council for approval 529 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:30,160 on Tuesday. I think it's a Tuesday. September 8th. Yeah, that's a Tuesday. 530 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:36,400 No. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yes. Yes. The 7th is a Monday. 531 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:40,240 Okay. Sorry about that. Um, next we have a request by KJ Walk for approval of a 532 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:43,119 site plan review to allow for construction of a multi-tenant 533 00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:49,160 commercial building with a drive-thru facility. And Julia, I will turn it over 534 00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:49,160 to you. Right. 535 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:57,920 All right. So, a little overview of the project summary in front of the 536 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,040 commission tonight. Uh, the planning commission is being asked to consider a 537 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,880 request submitted by KJ Walk first site plan review approval to construct a 538 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:10,240 multi-tenant commercial building with a drive-through facility at 2718 539 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:13,200 149th Street West. Uh, so the plans provided by the applicant meet the 540 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,240 requirements of the zoning ordinance within the city code and staff is 541 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,560 recommending approval of the site plan review subject to the conditions that 542 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:23,040 are listed in the recommended action. So, a little overview of the site 543 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:26,240 locations. You can see that's outlined in red. Uh the property is located 544 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,720 within the Rosewood Center second edition plat area located north of 545 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:35,680 County Road 42 east of Business Parkway and then also west of Biscane Avenue. Um 546 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,839 the subject parcel was originally a part of the outlot associated with Rosewood 547 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,040 Estates uh a single family neighborhood which is north um of the subject site. 548 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:49,200 The area was platted as Rosewood Center back in 2014 which established one 549 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:54,480 buildable lot which is where that existing Anytime Fitness um building is 550 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:58,480 located and then also an additional four outlots. Two of those outlots were for 551 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:03,359 future development. One was for storm water ponding and then one was a remnant 552 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:07,119 parcel. Uh in 2024 the applicant did come forward uh submitting a preliminary 553 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,040 and final plat for Rosewood Center second edition. uh that plat subdivided 554 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,200 the existing out lots that were created in 2014 and then created five buildable 555 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:19,119 lots and then also one non-buildable lot. Um so in front of you today is one 556 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:23,839 of those buildable lots within Rosewood Center second edition. 557 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:29,760 So a little overview of the site plan. Uh so the area is about 34,51 558 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:34,000 ft in size. Uh current zoning is at MX2 highway mixed use and then comp plan 559 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:38,800 land use designation is CC community commercial. Uh the proposed site plan 560 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,839 does include a 5,220 foot multi-tenant commercial building 561 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:46,400 that is located on the southwestern portion of the site which you can see on 562 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,800 the right hand side of this slide. Uh shows that uh proposed building. Uh the 563 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,040 building will be facing north towards 149th Street West and that parking area 564 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,920 is located between the roadway of 149th Street West and then also the building. 565 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,040 Uh the site plan does show uh that development does meet all setback 566 00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:06,720 requirements for the parking area and structure as well. Uh did also want to 567 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,520 note that the drive-through facilities is an accessory use um and is permitted 568 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,560 with standards within the MX2 highway mixeduse zoning district. Uh 569 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,319 drive-through facilities are subject to seven performance standards which were 570 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:23,599 outlined within the staff report that the commission did um receive and it's 571 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:28,880 stated within section 1167I of the zoning code. uh staff was able to 572 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:33,839 make the findings and um they were able to make the findings for um the 573 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:37,359 drive-through facility on the site. So a little overview of the parking and 574 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,240 access on site. So the access will be uh the site will be accessed by two access 575 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:46,800 point. one off 149th Street West, which you can see on the left hand side, um 576 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:51,200 right off 149th Street West, and then also from an existing access drive east 577 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:56,240 of the site, which would um give access to that Anytime Fitness, um location 578 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,920 site. Uh the proposed drive-through area is located in the southeastern portion, 579 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,680 directly east of the building, and the drive-thru will be accessible from both 580 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:09,119 site accesses, allowing for circulation in and out of the site. You can see that 581 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:13,359 um on that eastern part of the site directly east of the building. Um so the 582 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,400 site plan also does include 28 parking stalls which meets that minimum 583 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:20,720 requirement which you can see is outlined in this table below. Um there 584 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:25,520 was also a breakdown of both office and restaurant uses provided. Um since at 585 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:29,200 this time there isn't a specific use for the three different suites within the 586 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:32,480 building. So um the applicant did give a breakdown of the different potential 587 00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:36,000 uses that would be allowed on that site. um which uh the 28 stalls would meet the 588 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:40,240 requirement for either office or restaurant use. Uh the applicant also 589 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,480 did provide an exhibit for emergency v vehicle turning movements um which the 590 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:48,079 city's fire marshall did review and then also did provide a drive-through 591 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,319 stacking exhibit dist uh demonstrating the facility will provide a minimum of 592 00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:56,480 six uh stacking spaces per drive-through window which um to my knowledge and the 593 00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:02,400 applicant stated that there will only be one drive-through window on that east 594 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:05,440 side of the ex of the proposed building. A little overview on the landscaping. 595 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:09,119 So, the applicant's landscape plan did include a mix of deciduous and 596 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:13,359 coniferous uh trees provided throughout the site um and also a variety of 597 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:18,480 different foundation plantings as well. Uh the plan does show 19 trees including 598 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:23,040 nine trees along 149th Street West and then two trees included in the island um 599 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:26,800 the parking island close to the parking facility. And then there's also eight 600 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,079 arborite trees provided along the east side of the drive-through area to help 601 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:34,079 with screening uh for from the commercial site to the east as well. Uh 602 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,720 the site is required to have a minimum of 11 trees and 43 foundation plantings 603 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,440 and they are meeting that minimum requirement as you can see in that 604 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:47,359 breakdown in that table shown below. Um foundation plantings on the site are 605 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:50,960 shown to be located primarily along the western and southern uh portions of the 606 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,359 building and then additional plantings along um the parking islands. um 607 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,760 throughout the parking lot and then also along the drive-through facility as 608 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,440 well. And then phototric plan. So the 609 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,560 applicant is proposing um site lighting consisting of polemounted and 610 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:09,520 wall-mounted fixtures throughout the site. There are four wall-mounted 611 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,839 fixtures which will be located on the north side of the building where the 612 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,560 entrances to the buildings will be located. And then also there will be 613 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:20,160 three polemounted fixtures proposed throughout the parking lot as well which 614 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:23,760 you can see outlined in this phototric uh plan on the right hand side of the 615 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:27,680 slide. Uh the applicant did submit this phototric plan and did demonstrate the 616 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,800 lighting levels do comply with the standards outlined within the zoning 617 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:35,040 code. Uh did want to make a comment about 618 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:38,000 engineering. Um so there will be a sanitary sewer and water service 619 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,319 provided to the existing facilities along 149th Street West. Um storm water 620 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,920 runoff will be directed at the pond to the north of the site and then existing 621 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,119 storm water sewer line south of the site and then it'll also utilize that 622 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:53,920 adjacent storm water pond to the south as well. Um our engineering team did 623 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,280 take a look at um the site plan that was submitted. Um there is an existing 624 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,760 drainage and utility easement area located along the eastern side of the 625 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:06,079 site uh which is preserving a corridor for an existing water level equalizer 626 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,000 pipe. Uh there will be a need for an encroachment agreement with the city and 627 00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:14,480 the applicant um subject to city council approval and that will be required um 628 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:19,920 prior to any building permits um that would be pulled um just to ensure that 629 00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:24,720 um any of those pipes that would need to be fixed down the line um would be 630 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,920 required by the applicant. And then also conformance with all applicable 631 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:32,319 requirements of the city engineer is a recommended uh condition of approval 632 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,200 within this site plan review. Overview of the architectural 633 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,359 elevations. So the submitted um elevations indicate a mixture of 634 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:43,680 exterior materials uh with brick and the natural stone which will comprise about 635 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:48,560 92% of the building and then the remainder will be that 7.84 will consist 636 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:53,200 of ephus um which does meet the zoning code requirements. Um the MX2 highway 637 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:58,400 mixeduse zoning district requires a minimum of the 50% of um natural stone 638 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,319 or brick which this site plan or which the these exterior materials are meeting 639 00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:05,680 that minimum requirement. Uh and then staff is finding that the exterior 640 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:10,000 finishes do comply with the city's architectural standards outlined in the 641 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,359 city code. And then there is a uh one recommended 642 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,720 action in front of the planning commission today which will be a motion 643 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,920 to approve a site plan review allowing KJ Walk to construct a multi-tenant 644 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:25,359 commercial building with a drive-through facility at 2718 149 Street West subject 645 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:28,240 to conditions A throughF. Um I can answer any questions that the commission 646 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,040 may have. I do know the applicant is in the audience as well, so he might be 647 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,040 able to speak on additional questions that staff may not be able to answer. 648 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,640 » Thank you, Julia. Are there any comments or questions from the commission? 649 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:44,800 » Yeah, I guess two two things. One, just just to kind of um 650 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:49,680 the future vision there. The um the signaling at Biscane and straightening 651 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:52,240 of Biscane that that's expected to be done in the next year, right? This will 652 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,440 be done before the school opens, right? So that will provide a little more 653 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,880 traffic control. >> Correct. that is required to be finished 654 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,599 prior to the middle school opening which will be fall of 2027. 655 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:07,200 » Okay. All right. Yeah. >> Um and then the other question I have is 656 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:11,359 um I'm a little sensitive because there is 657 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,880 residential right across the street. Um >> and if done right, this is great because 658 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,240 I mean we've already got the daycare center there and solo salon. So and 659 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,200 that's working great. I drive by there all the time 660 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,040 » and this could fit in very nicely. I guess the one concern I have is about 661 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:29,920 the restaurant type. Mhm. >> Um really small footprint, but um if I 662 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:35,920 was a resident living across the street, I'd be concerned about smells, you know, 663 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:40,079 like fried chicken tends to go smell goes, you know, for miles sometimes. Um 664 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:45,680 do we know anything about what kind of restaurants could be put in there or or 665 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:48,960 is that a question for the applicant? I would probably defer to the applicant 666 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:53,520 for what he or what they're seeing at least for tenant wise, but within our 667 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:57,280 zoning code, we don't specify what type of restaurants is allowed and what's not 668 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:01,200 allowed. Within our zoning code, it just states restaurant. And then those 669 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:05,680 requirements for um for parking stalls includes like seating, max capacity, and 670 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,280 um that type. So, we don't really specify what type of restaurant use is 671 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,760 allowed and what's not allowed. It more comes down to capacity. And 672 00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:20,720 » would would we as a commission have any kind of leeway to if the plan were to 673 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:24,079 well I guess if we approve this plan it's it's past us right so they could 674 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,880 put any kind of restaurant in there right 675 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:30,960 » at this point what's in front is it's a spec building in a way but um if it's 676 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,720 meeting all the setbacks and everything and all the requirements for off- 677 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:39,200 streetet parking for landscaping for all the requirements that we outlined for 678 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:43,040 site plan approval then but I would definitely may defer to the 679 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:47,200 applicant. Um I know that he's had conversations with different tenants um 680 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,920 for the different suites within the proposed multi-tenant building. So 681 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,640 » Okay, >> Julia, on that same line of thinking, we 682 00:49:52,720 --> 00:50:01,040 obviously have lighting restrictions and noise restrictions, but do we have 683 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:04,720 anything around odor or smells? >> Not to my knowledge. Not within. Yeah. 684 00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:07,280 Like >> you bring up a good point, but and I'm 685 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:11,200 thinking like >> we don't have any kind of 686 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,960 » not specifically within the zoning ordinance do we have requirements for 687 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,280 odor >> or that type 688 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,680 » or smells that come. >> Yeah. Okay. 689 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:27,280 » I have a question. So, with regards to the Rosemont Middle School, currently a 690 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:33,119 lot of Rosemont Middle School um kids, they will, you know, go to Culver's like 691 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:37,520 walking from the middle school to there, and that's kind of the place to hang 692 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:41,119 out. Um with the new middle school, I mean, this is going to be potentially 693 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,280 the closest um restaurant or place depending on what 694 00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:50,319 it is and if it's appealing to them, right? And so I guess the question in my 695 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:55,839 mind is, have we thought about safety for the students who are going to be 696 00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:00,079 potentially walking and trying to get to that location? 697 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:04,240 » At least to my knowledge, there will be pedestrian 698 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:09,119 um measures done with that intersection that the county will be working with for 699 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:14,400 Biscane Avenue and County Road 42. It does also look like along 149 Street 700 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:21,200 West there is an existing sidewalk. So with that pedestrian um pedestrian work 701 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:24,640 that's being done at Piscane and 42, I think that would really only be the 702 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,200 thing that's hindering at least pedestrian traffic as there is that 703 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:31,920 existing sidewalk along 149 Street West on the north side. 704 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:38,160 » Madam Chair, Commissioner Beer, I do know with that signalization that does 705 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:43,760 provide some um uh traffic management. Uh it is staff's understanding that the 706 00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:47,280 school district is analy should say the school district and the county are 707 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:51,680 looking at different grade separated crossing potentials. I don't think 708 00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:56,720 they've landed on any final design, but it is something that is is um a need 709 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:00,800 that is the school district and the county are aware of and that the city 710 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:05,760 obviously is playing a role in in in so much as it can for a project like that. 711 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:10,400 » Yeah. And I think like one of the concerns is like while the 149 does have 712 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:16,240 that sidewalk, are they really going to go all the way north on Biscane and then 713 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:21,400 use that or are they going to try to, you know, shortcut it and just walk 714 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,400 along 42? 715 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,280 » Well, it's the county's long-term plan to have trails on both sides of 42. 716 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,960 » Yeah. >> Okay. 717 00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:32,160 » Long-term plan. >> Do you mean if they would cross at 718 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:37,040 Biscane and then drive walk down 42? >> Yeah. I think because the the restaurant 719 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:41,520 would be positioned more on the north side of that lot. I don't know. I I'd 720 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,720 like to think they wouldn't try and cross through the like the pond. There's 721 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:51,440 not going to be easy cross cutting from 42 722 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,200 um with the Burman stuff. I feel like it >> No, 723 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,559 » it wouldn't be easy to walk it. >> Okay. The only thing that adults know is 724 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,119 that we can't figure out what middle schoolers are going to do. 725 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:02,720 » Right. Right. I mean, we we don't know what they're going to do, but that will 726 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:07,040 like that won't be an easy to me. It won't be an easy walk 727 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:12,720 by any means. >> Even today, it's not walkable 728 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:17,440 anywhere around that. So, the only way would be to cross Biscane in that heavy 729 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,079 traffic. I don't think that that would be something they will prefer, 730 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:24,079 » right? They'd have to go to Biscane, cross, and then go up to 149th 731 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,480 and down. >> Okay. 732 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,880 » Yeah. Maybe this isn't representative of the 733 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:36,480 actual topography out there, but it looks like the footprint of the building 734 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:42,480 and some of the parking areas kind of starts to encroach in on the grading of 735 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:47,920 that outlot. If you go to the drawing, 736 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:55,119 next one I believe. Um, yeah. Well, the that last one showed 737 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:58,880 I mean you can see the the grading lines of that outlot. If that would have to be 738 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:02,559 reworked, how does that work with having to create enough space for that 739 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,680 retention pond and just making sure that you have enough 740 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,960 » the city is requiring that encroachment agreement. 741 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,079 » Okay. >> As part of that. So, I mean 742 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:17,119 » cuz that whole eastern side, you can kind of see that do dotted line right 743 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:22,720 there. All E is that is technically a drainage and utility easement area for 744 00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:26,880 those utilities. Um which the city will be requiring the applicant to um enter 745 00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:34,400 in an encroachment agreement for that area. So 746 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:40,240 I mean that will be covered in a way um at least the parking and the drive 747 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:44,319 through is is meeting that setback requirement. 748 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:48,559 Commissioner Bugai and Madam Chair, is your your question more along the lines 749 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:53,280 of is it is it designed in a way that it will be structurally sound or safe or 750 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,880 within the the angle or the sloping of that retention pond? 751 00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:03,119 » Yeah. Uh my concern was or maybe not concern but question is if they need to 752 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:09,200 build into that retention pond at all to adjust for either the the building or 753 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:13,760 the parking. Are you taking away from the capacity of the retention pond then? 754 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,000 » Sure. Um th those are all things that are reviewed by both internal and then 755 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:22,000 uh consulting engineers on behalf of the city uh with the full civil submitt um 756 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:26,240 plans for these projects. >> Okay. 757 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:28,160 So that'll be considered and part of Yeah. 758 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:31,599 » And that will be a requirement with the site plan review. It is a condition 759 00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:36,480 stating that it um does have to follow all city engineer requirements. Okay. 760 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:40,160 » State in that memo and other additional um information 761 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:45,760 will be required that they'll have to follow. 762 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:50,720 Julia, with the the entrance to the Anytime Fitness kind of building there 763 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,520 to the east, is that >> does that impact any of the parking at 764 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,920 Anytime Fitness today, or is that um 765 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,160 » No. So, >> more north of that parking. 766 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:04,720 » It's more north of that parking. So, you can It's kind of hard to tell on here, 767 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:07,200 but it's it was stubbed to the west. So, >> that stub that's there. 768 00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:09,760 » Yes. Okay. Correct. Okay. I didn't know if it was still in that same 769 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:13,760 » Yeah, I know. kind of hard to tell, but that parking south of where that stub 770 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,880 was, which will be the connection point to the site. 771 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:20,400 » Okay. Um, a couple other comments, and I'm not 772 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:28,319 sure, they might be for more for the applicant, but the on the landscaping 773 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:32,400 plan and the drive-thru. This is I I'm guessing these trees aren't aren't in 774 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:37,520 their maybe their exact spots and and Horn's always very flexible. Um, but 775 00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:42,000 just coming out of like where the drive-thru is, it kind of looks like 776 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,559 there's a window between the it lines up to a window in the trees. And I just 777 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,200 wondered if it we could have a tree there so that it it shields any 778 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,400 headlights pointing towards the road and towards the residential there. Does that 779 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,079 make sense? >> Do you mean like in this 780 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,599 » like So, yep. So, if you go straight forward, you're kind of in that window 781 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:06,319 between the second and third tree. >> Okay. And so if we could adjust a little 782 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:11,839 bit so that a tree is aligned blocking that, that would be good. We can do 783 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:18,000 that. Okay. At least for the landscape plan, as long as the number of trees are 784 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:21,599 correct and they're in the that vicinity where they're planned, there is a little 785 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,760 bit of flexibility in location. >> Okay. 786 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,319 » For planting, at least for when we review landscape plans. 787 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,160 » Perfect. And I just want to request that it that it blocks so that we block that 788 00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:33,359 the headlights from those res residents to the north cuz as Commissioner Reed 789 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:39,520 mentioned it's obviously we've got residential budding right up to this. 790 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:43,200 » Um I mean there is there is some storm water pond there to the north too. So it 791 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,119 g does give some separation. But the other um questions I had is I noticed it 792 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:51,920 said mobile order pickup for the drive-thru. And so I think that this 793 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:55,839 obviously could could be changed, but whether it's so maybe it's just mobile 794 00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:59,520 order planned for the drive-thru, not an ordering, but if we approve this, it 795 00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:02,880 could that could change even though if that's what's planned today. Correct. 796 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:07,200 That could change, but it would still be required to follow those permitted 797 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:11,920 standards that were outlining in in the in the packet. And also, there was also 798 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:15,760 a condition that any signage has to uh receive administrative approval prior to 799 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,640 any installation of any signage as well. And I believe that's signage as well as 800 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:26,720 um the volume not being able to hear it from um neighboring places. Okay. And 801 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:31,760 then any um do you have any thoughts on the timing of this because I know we've 802 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:37,200 got other projects that um with KJ Walk and just kind of wondering what that 803 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,839 timing looks like. I would defer to the application. 804 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,799 » That's what I assumed but yes >> thought I'd get it out there now. 805 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:47,280 » Okay. >> Sounds good. Anyone else have any 806 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,200 questions or comments? Mhm. >> I do, but it's probably for the 807 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:53,359 applicant as well. >> Okay, sounds good. Anyone else? Okay. 808 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,640 Okay. Thank you. >> This item is a public hearing item. So, 809 00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:00,400 at this time, we will open up the public hearing. Anyone in the audience would 810 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:04,240 like to speak may do so at this time. Coming to the podium, stating your name 811 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:09,240 and address for the record. And if the applicant would like to come forward and 812 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,240 start us off, you may. 813 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,880 Good evening. >> Yeah, I'm Warren Israelson, owner of KJW 814 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,240 Walk. >> Um, yeah. 815 00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:26,640 » Can you state your address, too, for the record? 816 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:31,680 » Uh, I live in Savage >> or your work address. That's fine. 817 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:37,040 » 101 Egan Drive is our work. Um, >> perfect. 818 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:41,760 » Work address, which is also 42 straight west of of here. Um, 819 00:59:40,271 --> 00:59:48,160 [clears throat] yeah, we had uh proposed a project 820 00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:52,319 similar to this on another lot a few years ago and we ended up selling that 821 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:58,240 lot and nothing's been done on it which kind 822 00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:02,319 of surprised me but so um this is round two 823 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:06,960 uh the same project. We actually are proposing the same exact same tenants we 824 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:12,240 were back then. So in this case, the eastern one would be a a taco. It's 825 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:18,000 called K Taco. They have I think like half a dozen um restaurants in Twin 826 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,920 Cities. And then the middle one is a pizza supreme. 827 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:28,720 So it's a pizza place and we don't have anybody currently for the western uh 828 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:32,240 portion of the building. Um let's see. Is there another question that Oh, with 829 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:36,079 timing. >> Yes. 830 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:40,720 Um, as you can tell, we finally getting started on that other apartment project. 831 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,240 » Yes. >> Six years. Six years, I think. 832 01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:47,200 » So, what do you think that long? It's been that about that long. Yeah, I 833 01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:50,319 think. I don't quote me, but pretty close to six years. Yeah. So, what do 834 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:56,799 you think timing on this one is? >> Um, well, I I'm guessing it'll probably 835 01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:02,640 be challenging to get a building permit yet this year and and get started. So, 836 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,520 and likely it'll be next spring when we start on this one. 837 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,319 » Okay. So, this one isn't going to sit and wait until 838 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,760 » apartments are all done or anything. You're going to move on this one 839 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,480 quicker. >> This is 840 01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:15,680 » Yeah. >> Um I think Commissioner Rivera, you said 841 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,760 you had some questions for the applicant. 842 01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:23,440 » I thought he looked familiar. Um, I was just going to ask about something 843 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:31,440 similar that was on, I believe, the the lot across the street on the norththeast 844 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:35,599 corner of 42. Is that where you were proposing another strip mall like this a 845 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,000 couple years ago? >> Across from New Horizon business, right, 846 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,799 » just west of New Horizon's Daycare, >> right? 847 01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:44,559 » Yeah. >> Okay. I thought you looked familiar. So 848 01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:49,680 that's my question was and I think it's the same question that was back then 849 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:55,680 probably to do more with the drive-thru um because there is residential folks 850 01:01:52,000 --> 01:02:00,240 that are just north of there um you know the hours at certain points of 851 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:04,960 the night. Nobody wants to hear you know ordering tacos at 10 at night or 852 01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:11,359 whatever. So, I was just mine had to do more with um maybe the the hours that 853 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:15,359 they're considering at some point and the noise in that whole drive-thru 854 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:20,480 realm. >> Uh to be honest, I'm not sure what their 855 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:23,359 hours are, but uh so I guess 856 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:28,000 » no, I'm more information to come, but I think that was the concern a couple 857 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:36,160 years ago. Same thing. Yeah, I remember some concerns about noise last time 858 01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:43,680 around and and I think I think we were we were supposed to 859 01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:48,960 notify the tenant that they had to make sure that the noise was 860 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:52,319 not a an issue with the neighbors or something like that. I can't remember. 861 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:56,400 Well, I think we we've got noise ordinances of, you know, not being able 862 01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:02,480 to hear noise from a parcel at certain hours, you know, past I think our noise 863 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:06,319 ordinance is at 10:00 p.m., I believe. Don't quote me on that, but 10 p.m. 864 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,280 » I believe so, but uh you should not be able to hear the 865 01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:11,839 » Your mic isn't on. >> It's okay. 866 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:16,640 » Um what no matter what time it is, you 867 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:20,400 should not be able to hear the um uh speakers with the drive-thru. And what 868 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:24,559 staff has found is that the technology for the drive-through systems is a lot 869 01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:30,160 better than it used to be. Um so it hasn't come up. Um we do um gladly 870 01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:35,839 receive complaints if there are any and work with property owners to eliminate 871 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:40,079 those issues uh as they arise if they arise. And I can't remember if it was 872 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:44,480 the drive-thru that was proposed with the project to the west of New Horizon's 873 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,559 daycare or if it was a different drive-thru, but I I vaguely, not 874 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:52,640 vaguely, I clearly remember myself going and sitting at Culver's in different 875 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:56,160 spots to listen to the drive-thru and I couldn't hear from across the street 876 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,599 from in their parking lot. Um, and so yeah, I would agree that the technology 877 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,680 even when Culver's was built to such a point that I had a hard time hearing 878 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:06,640 that. >> Yeah. And again, Commissioner Rivera, 879 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:11,200 Madame Chair, County Road 42 is going to be the loudest thing out there. And it's 880 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:14,880 it, you know, I think, >> not speaking for the residents, but as 881 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:19,599 someone who's lived near a busy roadway, it does kind of become a white noise 882 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:27,200 that much like office spaces, um the white noise is there to to um 883 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:31,280 not distract but muffle other specific sounds. So, um, if there are issues and 884 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,440 we do receive complaints, obviously staff is is, uh, eager to work with 885 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,920 property owners and residents to alleviate those. 886 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:46,720 Any other questions? Can I This may be I mean, this obviously 887 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:50,160 could change, but is it expected to be only a mobile order pickup at the 888 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:53,520 drive-thru? >> Well, that's currently what we're 889 01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:56,720 thinking. Okay. We don't want to be totally restricted to that, but Right. 890 01:04:55,359 --> 01:05:01,760 That's the current thing. I I just the sign is what caused me to 891 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:07,200 » to think that. Okay. >> So, I think I got my questions answered. 892 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:10,079 We got the other questions answered. >> Okay. We'll let you stand by in case 893 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,000 there's other questions that come up from residents or anything else. 894 01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:15,280 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. 895 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:19,720 » Is there anyone else in the audience that like to speak on this item at this 896 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,720 time? 897 01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:30,000 » Hi there, Elise Madam. Um, I'm actually the neighbor here at 2678149th 898 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:33,680 Street West, owner of It's a Solless Salon and Anytime Fitness within our 899 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:37,280 Madam Properties. So, not the Anytime Fitness building, just happens to have 900 01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:39,839 that in there. Um, and I just have a couple questions which you guys were 901 01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:44,400 kind of either answering questions yourself, but the construction entrance 902 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:48,480 as it's currently placed on there is utilizing our entrance to our parking 903 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:52,000 lot. And that is the only entrance to our parking lot. And even with the 904 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,960 construction that's happening down the road, there are a lot of vehicles that 905 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:59,839 just kind of sit and hang out there. So, I would like to either suggest or some 906 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:03,359 other option to not use our single entrance. Um, just because right now it 907 01:06:01,839 --> 01:06:07,359 is already very narrow. It's literally two lanes of cars in and out of there. 908 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:13,359 Um, if that can be addressed or looked at, um, certainly would be nice. I know 909 01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:18,799 we talked a little bit about the trees um and that outlot a I don't know where 910 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:22,720 you guys fall in that where um the land developer Warren lies in with that but 911 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:27,760 recently if you've ever been down that road it is rarely kept up rarely mowed. 912 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,520 We had to call in and get that place mowed several times in the last nine 913 01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:36,000 years I've owned that building. Um, but also too to look at that for uh 914 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,119 visibility, what it looks like, the attraction for, you know, companies to 915 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:42,960 come in there is to try to take, you know, take care of that pond and maybe 916 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:46,799 make it look a little bit nicer and not so kind of left to the wayside along 917 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:52,000 with the other sites that are currently available. Um, 918 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,799 and I did have some concerns obviously with the drive-thru. It makes you feel a 919 01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:58,319 little better that it's not going to be like the next big coffee shop that's 920 01:06:56,799 --> 01:07:02,640 going to come in and there's 30 cars both ways and it's just, you know, kind 921 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,839 of a lot. If that's going to be what it is and it's very simple, maybe just a 922 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:10,079 pickup window, something a little faster. My concern was maybe making that 923 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,640 entrance into our parking lot maybe an exit only so people aren't lining up too 924 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,240 many different places um and that they only encroach and they impede their own 925 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,960 traffic within their parking lot, not causing a line into ours or out on that 926 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,520 main road. Um, sometimes it's easier to come up with things right away of a 927 01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:30,880 traffic pattern and not after the fact. People don't have their routines on 928 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:34,480 there. If we could maybe explore that. Um, you already answered the question on 929 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,440 what was this originally planned for down the road more west because I had 930 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:43,760 heard that that was maybe going in. Um, and then a monument sign request if 931 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:48,160 there is any of those that would come up. We were had already discussions that 932 01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:53,119 we would be either within that communication. I didn't see any on here 933 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:56,400 unless there is any that I missed out um just for that area. And like I said, 934 01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:00,480 that's just more of a visibility, keeping that nice um you know, looking 935 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:04,880 and not a million signs down the road either on 149th or 42. And just right 936 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,640 now, if you guys didn't see that either, I don't see one placed in there 937 01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:12,240 necessarily. And I think that's actually all. So, I 938 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,520 think just for me, it was more or less of making sure that they're going to 939 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:19,440 keep the standards. it looks nice the brick um what we're going to come in 940 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:24,080 there then also to maybe just with that construction is probably my main concern 941 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,920 um just with our busy time is going to be in spring as well for the gym for 942 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,679 Anytime Fitness and then our solar salon has upwards of 20 independent businesses 943 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:35,600 in there so we just want to make sure we're conscious of all the other um 944 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:38,839 tenants that are in that area. >> Thank you. 945 01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:45,080 Is there anyone else in the audience that like to speak on this item this 946 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,080 evening? 947 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,279 Okay, before we close the public hearing, Warren, I wonder if you can 948 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,799 come back up and speak a little bit to the construction entrance and your 949 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:56,880 thoughts on maybe what could be done there as well as um I think it is a good 950 01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:02,159 point on the landscaping of what the plan is to maintain the landscaping 951 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:05,679 since some of that landscaping and um mowing and stuff of the property today 952 01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:11,120 isn't wellkept. >> Um I couldn't hear. Unfortunately, I'm 953 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,120 getting old and hard of hearing. I try to remember to wear my hearing aids, my 954 01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:17,839 Costco hearing aids when I come to these meetings, but I forgot tonight. 955 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:22,880 » Remembered about >> you forgot last time too. 956 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:25,359 » It's like Anyway, so okay, can you >> I can receive them specifically the 957 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:31,520 questions. Yeah. >> Yes. So, um, Miss Madam has a concern, 958 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:36,560 um, around the construction entrance of it looks like the construction entrance 959 01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:41,920 is planned to be the Anytime Fitness Madam Properties um, driveway. I don't 960 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:45,839 know if I can ever stop calling it anytime fitness, but the Madam 961 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:50,480 Properties driveway area. and their concern is that that being their only 962 01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:53,839 entrance and exit to their property that having something maybe getting the other 963 01:09:52,319 --> 01:10:00,960 entrance built out or something else for a construction entrance. 964 01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:06,560 » Uh yeah, we can uh certainly look at um cutting into that entrance first and 965 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:13,199 using that for construction entrance if if the city is think that's a good idea. 966 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:19,760 » Okay, we will review a city as well, but that would be great. Um, and then I 967 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:23,040 don't know um if there's anything that can be done on the drive-thru patterns, 968 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,480 but there was concern about the drive-thru stacking, but I if I remember 969 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:31,520 right, there was like seven cars stacked, which is more than what would 970 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:35,280 be needed, but obviously maybe for for the tenants. I don't know what can be 971 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,040 maybe this is something for the city as well, but what can be done if it does 972 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:43,199 start to encroach on another property owner's property that something would 973 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:48,640 need to be done? I would assume we can't have obviously drive-thru stacking 974 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,840 encroach on another property. >> Well, I'd be shocked if that ever 975 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:56,880 happens for tacos, but >> Okay. 976 01:10:53,520 --> 01:11:01,679 » It's not a Chick-fil-A. >> Yes. As long as Yeah. As long as you're 977 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:05,760 not putting in a >> Yeah. 978 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:09,679 » Yeah. Okay. Um and then the landscaping maintenance was the other concern of the 979 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:12,880 landscape maintenance that's done today. Was it are you was she ask talking about 980 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,719 the ponding area? >> The ponding area. I think the ponding 981 01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:23,199 area, the the boulevard, the sidewalk, all of that. I can I can speak as a as a 982 01:11:21,679 --> 01:11:29,040 resident in that just north of that area, too. The sidewalks. Um the the 983 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:32,880 mowing is not well maintained along the property. Obviously, New Horizons 984 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:37,360 maintains theirs and and Anytime maintains theirs, but the properties um 985 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,360 along there, including this one, the sidewalk 986 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:49,120 and the landscaping around the ponding, >> we plan to maintain ownership of the 987 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:53,600 building and we will certainly maintain uh the the side up to the curb of the 988 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,280 street. um the ponding area. 989 01:11:57,155 --> 01:12:03,760 [laughter] >> That's a city pond. 990 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:10,880 » I mean, that's that's not our responsibility or our right even to to 991 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:17,520 be on there. I I think we would like to um keep it cleaned up at least to the 992 01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:22,560 side on our side. We would we would want more visibility from 4 to 2, you know, 993 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:27,120 we want people to see the restaurant. So, we would like to be able to have the 994 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,600 opportunity to clean that up, I guess, on the 995 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,920 » Okay. >> on the north side of the pond. 996 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:39,520 » Okay. We will um have the city comment on that as well then. And then um 997 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,000 lastly, there was Oh, monument sign. Is there a monument sign planned for this 998 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:46,880 building? >> We hadn't really um talked about that or 999 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:52,400 thought about it. It's such a small building. But 1000 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:56,960 um that's a good question. Um we would have 1001 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,800 to come in for a separate permit for that, I'm assuming. 1002 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:04,040 » Yes. >> Um 1003 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,040 I 1004 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,080 can >> get back to you on that because 1005 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:13,760 obviously we'll have the the signage on the building for each of the tenants. 1006 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:17,600 » Yep. Yep. I think I mean it was it was Miss Madam that had some questions 1007 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:20,800 around that um and maybe what what that looks like in conjunction with the rest 1008 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,800 of the buildings there. So, >> okay. 1009 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:27,520 » So, yeah. So, maybe connection connecting with her based on the plans. 1010 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:31,840 » Yeah. So, maybe we can get back to you on a monument if we think that would be 1011 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,406 good. >> I hadn't really thought about it to be 1012 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:38,880 honest. [clears throat] 1013 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:42,800 » Okay. I think that covers the questions that I wrote down from Miss Madam. So, 1014 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,960 have a seat. We'll see if there's anything else. 1015 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,520 » All right, I'll hang around. >> Thanks. 1016 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:52,840 » Thanks. >> Anyone else in the audience like to 1017 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,840 speak on this item this evening? 1018 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,280 Seeing none, I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. 1019 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,719 » Second. >> It's been moved by Commissioner Kenneer, 1020 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:05,040 seconded by Commissioner Reid. All those in favor, please say I. 1021 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:09,360 » I. Opposed. Public hearing is now closed. 1022 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:14,080 Julia, can you speak a little bit to the um city's thoughts on the construction 1023 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:16,880 entrance? >> It would most likely be a conversation 1024 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:21,920 with their engineering department as they deal with um roads and access off 1025 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,600 of roads. Um the applicant could definitely have discussion, especially 1026 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:29,120 if they update their plans. Um they'll have to resubmit [clears throat] those 1027 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:32,800 and they'll get feedback from um our engineering department. Okay. 1028 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:37,440 » Works on that. What is I mean in terms of obviously that that entrance that's 1029 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:42,080 there and correct me if this isn't accurate but that entrance that's there 1030 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:48,000 is on the Madaman property building 1031 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:52,719 on their lot right so what is the what is the right way for somebody to use 1032 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:56,640 someone else's entrance exit for their construction 1033 01:14:54,239 --> 01:15:00,320 that does seem a little odd to me >> there would be some sort of agreement 1034 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,040 access agreement or easement that would be recorded Ed, it would be between the 1035 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,440 two property owners. >> Okay. So, there would have to be 1036 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,560 agreement from that property owner to visit. 1037 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:12,080 » This was platted back in 2014. Obviously, the building um east of the 1038 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:17,120 proposed building was built prior to 2014, but um I'm guessing there was some 1039 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,480 sort of agreement with that stub to the west back during that time with 1040 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:25,360 platting, >> but I can't say for certain. With 1041 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:29,440 regards to construction staging also, um the city does have a pre-construction 1042 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:34,640 meeting with every developer prior to commencing development of a site and and 1043 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:38,239 it would be at that time that we would have the conversations between 1044 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:44,880 engineering and the developer about staging where access um starting with 1045 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:50,000 the access off of 149th versus you know just using the existing access into the 1046 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:54,800 site. Um, so there is a process and there is there's conversations before 1047 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,120 work starts happening on the site. >> Okay. 1048 01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:02,960 » So just just to be clear, say we we want to be planful and we want owners to talk 1049 01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:08,800 to each other. But if it were to turn out that there is disruption from the 1050 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:12,800 distra uh construction to the businesses uh at any time and so what is their 1051 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:15,040 recourse? They come to the city and and get ask the city to intervene 1052 01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:20,239 essentially. >> Yeah, we can certainly do that. We we 1053 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:26,000 have we have um basically like mileposts along the construction project and we do 1054 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:29,840 have inspectors out when there are um uh different different steps and stages of 1055 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:34,400 construction. >> Thank you, Madame Chair. Um, you know, I 1056 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:38,159 I think the other piece to think about as a part of that is that the the 1057 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:42,480 adjacent property owner, Miss Madam's um concerns are certainly well founded 1058 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:49,520 because there's uh quite a difference between just a an access easement across 1059 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:53,920 private property versus getting in the way constantly or causing 1060 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:57,520 a disruption through it. So, um, whether it's it's for the two adjacent property 1061 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:02,080 owners to start those discussions, that's always a a good place to start is 1062 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,920 having the two neighbors have this conversation. We're kind of having it 1063 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:09,600 publicly right now, but also, as uh Anthony mentioned to as a part of a 1064 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:13,679 pre-construction meeting, um, that would also be noted as a part of that with the 1065 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:17,280 uh the construction team. So, I think that concern is is heard and uh 1066 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:22,640 wellreceived and and can certainly be addressed. Um, the other uh thing I 1067 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:27,920 could clarify if if uh we can here is that we're looking at the county's GIS 1068 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:33,360 and that the storm water pond outlot a just south of the proposed parcel um 1069 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:36,960 does show an owner ownership of KJ Walk. So that is not the the city's parcel 1070 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,239 right there. But that does show ownership by KJ Walk on that parcel. 1071 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:45,280 Just to clarify that comp. >> Did you hear that? 1072 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:48,719 » Okay. The pond to the north across 149th Street West is owned by the city, but 1073 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,480 the one to the south is owned by the developer. 1074 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:54,480 » Okay. >> So, Warren's going to get on top of that 1075 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:58,640 tomorrow. >> Now that you know you own it, 1076 01:17:56,480 --> 01:18:02,719 » you're going to maintain it. I hear the mower. 1077 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,360 Okay. Well, see, good conversations come from these things, you know, 1078 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:09,760 realizations. >> No wonder you didn't maintain it. You 1079 01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:18,719 didn't know you owned it. >> Um, okay. So that takes care of the 1080 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:25,600 pond. Um with regards to both the construction as well as the any stacking 1081 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:30,400 from the drive-thru and encroaching on the neighboring property to the east. Is 1082 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:35,640 any of that things we should add into the conditions on our motion this 1083 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,640 evening? 1084 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,239 I don't I don't >> from the stacking exhibit that was 1085 01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:48,480 submitted by the applicant, I did not see it being an issue of overflow that 1086 01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:49,920 would disrupt flow from the property to the east. 1087 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,480 » Okay. >> At least for the exhibit that was 1088 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,719 submitted. >> Okay. 1089 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:58,560 » It would be a dramatically different conversation if it was like a seven 1090 01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:01,600 bruise or something like that. >> Okay. 1091 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:05,920 » So, I guess one knowing knowing that it's that who the tenant potentially is 1092 01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:10,640 here. Um, >> but that tenant can change, 1093 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:15,280 » right? And it can change. Um, so I went to my first like K Taco actually couple 1094 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:20,560 weeks ago in the one in Savage, so I'm familiar with it pretty recently. Um, 1095 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:26,080 that one did not have a drive-thru, but the and the food's delicious, so it' be 1096 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:32,400 great if that comes comes here. But like um the the food turnaround time was 1097 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:37,360 pretty lengthy. Um, so like from order to like getting your food, it was about 1098 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:42,640 10 to 15 minutes. So if if that is not like mobile order pickup only, I could 1099 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:48,080 see a situation where that gets like backed up. And so I guess that's one of 1100 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:53,120 my concerns is could is there a way that it can be just mobile order pickup only 1101 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:59,760 so in the conditions or is that not something we could put in there? Um, 1102 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:05,920 Madame Chair, Commissioner Beener, I don't know if that level of specificity 1103 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:10,640 would necessarily be a good thing to put as a condition of approval in there. Um, 1104 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:15,360 kind of understanding that the issue that the commission is discussing 1105 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:18,239 the the drive-through as proposed does meet the requirements of the code for it 1106 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,600 stacking requirements. So, that's that's the one thing that the commission should 1107 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,760 be weighing in terms of its its approval or denial of of the application as it's 1108 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,960 presented. I think what we're pulling from is a lot 1109 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,800 of our own personal anecdotal experiences with different types of 1110 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:36,880 operators in there. Um, which is which is certainly important on the front end 1111 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:42,000 if there's a known um tenant going into there. Also consider the reality that 1112 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,960 tenants change over a period of time and years and that these buildings are 1113 01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:49,280 designed for multiple tenants over the course of multiple years which may have 1114 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:53,679 lesser or more intense types of users within there. as long as it meets the 1115 01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:57,760 the the um the the provisions of the code. We probably don't want to get too 1116 01:20:55,679 --> 01:21:02,239 detailed on an approval process in there. Um it could be worth noting if 1117 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:08,880 the commission wants to have additional conversation on adding part of the um 1118 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:14,239 let me pull it up here if you can bear with me. But basically, 1119 01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:18,800 the drive-thru conditions have stacking requirements, but also some sort of note 1120 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:23,360 that stacking for drive-through needs to be contained within the subject parcel's 1121 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:27,440 property or something something that to that effect. um basically putting the 1122 01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:31,840 impetus on the property owner or the tenant or the the the building owner to 1123 01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:36,800 solve for their traffic issues within their own parcel, not taking advantage 1124 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:40,159 of a neighboring parcels um lane or stacking or something something like 1125 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,760 that. And if that means that they designate certain parking stalls for you 1126 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:47,679 know you you place your order at the window, you pull into one of those 1127 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:51,600 stalls to wait for your food. This plan because it doesn't have a specific 1128 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:55,600 tenant in there doesn't note that. But those are solutions I think that we've 1129 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:59,040 probably all seen in just our our daily lives on how some of them handle it. So 1130 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:03,679 a certain level of trust to have the tenant solve that for themselves. But um 1131 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:08,320 that would be one suggestion I could offer is if you want to either add to 1132 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:12,080 one of the conditions or add an additional condition that drive-through 1133 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:16,080 traffic should be contained and maintained with onin the the subject 1134 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:21,920 property could be something to consider. >> I could see something like that. Like so 1135 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:28,320 hypothetically like a seven brew could become a tenant in this location. 1136 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:31,520 » Hypothetically any any eligible restaurant user or anything allowed 1137 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:34,480 within the code could be there. We can't discriminate between users, 1138 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:40,400 » right? And then by just saying it has to be contained in the in the property as 1139 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:44,159 opposed to like you know you can't take pull-up orders, it has to be mobile 1140 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,679 order like that that's the better way to solve it is what you're saying. That 1141 01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:50,560 would be my recommendation kind of thinking through it on on the fly here 1142 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:56,480 because I think what we're trying to mitigate is heard by members of the 1143 01:22:52,800 --> 01:23:00,320 audience is trying to stay ahead of any negatively impacting an adjacent 1144 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,440 property owner's use of their property. >> And I think that's what I'm trying to 1145 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:06,239 solve for too is what just making sure that spillover does not go into that 1146 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:10,960 other property. >> And and if the turnaround time is 10 to 1147 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:15,360 15 minutes and they expand from just doing mobile order to taking orders that 1148 01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:18,320 it is kind of the Culver's model, right? like you get your you get often you get 1149 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:22,639 your number and you have to wait for your food. Um which they could then have 1150 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:25,360 the parking spots certain parking spots designated for that. 1151 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,600 » Sure. >> Would be a solution. But I I like that 1152 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:34,560 ad of the um of that just to call it out to make 1153 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:36,719 sure we we've got that >> um and to find 1154 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:41,840 » Sorry, Madam Chair. Just to maybe further clarify that is listed as 1155 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:46,400 condition E conformance with all required standards associated with 1156 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:51,600 drive-through facilities and noting that drive-through traffic shall be managed 1157 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:57,280 and contained within the subject parcels property or similar language. 1158 01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:00,880 » Sounds good. um on the construction traffic. Now you mentioned 1159 01:23:58,639 --> 01:24:06,719 that there's conversations that would occur with um ahead of construction 1160 01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:12,840 starting. Is that something that that also should be noted as a condition at 1161 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,840 all? 1162 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,560 » I mean we do have the condition a compliance with all comments and 1163 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:25,520 requirements of the city engineer. >> Okay. So that would cover that. 1164 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:30,239 » Okay. I believe that would cover it. Okay. 1165 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:36,000 » If I could ask one um related topic about drive-through standards. Um and 1166 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:43,440 this is uh um under standards number two. No use no use with a drive-thru 1167 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:49,280 window shall be located abudding any residential use or district. And so it 1168 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:54,159 seems kind of great. Can you explain how we're using a budding here and why this 1169 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:59,600 is not a budding residential? >> So with the roadway intersection 1170 01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:03,520 intersection from the north, it's technically only a budding other MX2 1171 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:08,400 » uses. Okay. >> Yeah. It's with 149th Street located 1172 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,840 » north of that property, >> right? 1173 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,600 » So if this like if this was residential, then it couldn't be there, 1174 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:18,320 » right? >> Yeah. 1175 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:22,000 Okay. My um my last question is my my small thing on the placement of the 1176 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:26,800 landscaping trees to buffer the the lights. Does that need any further 1177 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,920 commenting or was that something we can make sure gets taken care of? 1178 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,080 » We can work with the applicant to make sure that that placement 1179 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,679 » okay >> of the trees on that um along the 1180 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:41,120 roadway. >> Okay. 1181 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:43,920 » Any conditions need to be called out. Okay. So, we've got the one adjustment 1182 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:49,920 to a condition. Are there any other comments or questions, concerns from the 1183 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:53,440 commission? Okay. And we close the public hearing. 1184 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:57,440 So, okay. So, with that, we could entertain a motion. Um, 1185 01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:02,400 » I've got the language, so I can do. >> Perfect. Thank you, Commissioner Ellis. 1186 01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:06,400 » So, I'd move to approve the site plan review allowing KJWalk, Inc. to 1187 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:10,000 construct a multi-tenant commercial building with drive-through facility at 1188 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:14,880 2718 149th Street West subject to the 1189 01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:19,760 following conditions A throughF with the addition at condition E that so it's 1190 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:23,040 conformance with all the required standards associated with drive-through 1191 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:27,520 facilities and an additional requirement that the drive-thru traffic and stacking 1192 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:32,480 be managed and contained on the subject property and not on the property to the 1193 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:35,040 east. Second 1194 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:39,840 » has been moved by Commissioner Ellis, seconded by Commissioner Beadner. All 1195 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,920 those in favor, please say I. >> I. Opposed. 1196 01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:48,400 » Motion carries. This item does not go forward to the city council. This item 1197 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:51,760 is final um final by this planning commission this evening. There is a 1198 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,440 10-day appeal period. Anyone in the audience that would like to appeal our 1199 01:26:53,280 --> 01:27:00,239 decision this evening may do so by contacting city staff. 1200 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:05,520 With that, that concludes our public hearing section this evening. 1201 01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:12,080 Is there any new business? >> Uh, none, Madam Chair. 1202 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:17,440 » Any discussion items for the commission? >> No. Okay. I will just do a quick 1203 01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:21,600 schedule review. We've got um the next fourth Tuesday of September, October, 1204 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:28,239 and November are our meetings. So, we've got September 22nd, October 27th, and 1205 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:31,440 November 24th. So if you have any of those that you are not able to make, 1206 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:35,040 please let city staff know as soon as possible. 1207 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:39,719 And with that, I will say meeting adjourned. Meeting adjourned.