1 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:02,720 Good evening. It is August 18th, 2026. I am now calling the Ross Township Board 2 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:06,199 regular meeting to order. All rise for the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:16,479 I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 4 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:22,840 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 5 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,840 justice for all. 6 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,440 » Thank you. >> Clerk, you may proceed with the roll 7 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,479 call. >> Trusty Harmon 8 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:40,000 » here. Treasure Wearsma absent with cause. 9 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,800 Clerk Stage here. Supervisor Hutchings >> here. 10 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:44,080 » Trusty Langshaw here. >> Trusty Beaks 11 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,759 » here. >> Trusty White 12 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:50,880 » here. >> Robthall attorney is present. 13 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:53,840 » Thank you. Next, I'd be seeking an approval of the agenda as presented. 14 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 » Make that motion. >> Second. 15 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,759 » We have a motion in support to accept the approval as or accept the agenda as 16 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:03,360 presented. Is there any further discussion? 17 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:08,960 » All those in favor? I I >> opposed. None. Motion carries. Moving 18 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:13,360 forward, I am seeking a motion to accept the consent agenda as presented. 19 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:18,800 » So moved. >> We have a motion and support. 20 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:24,319 Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I I uh for the galley, there are stats 21 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:29,120 for public safety over on the ledge. Just so everybody knows, there's a lot 22 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:32,479 of handouts over there. Um >> I'm sorry. All in favor? I 23 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:38,240 » I >> unanimous. Thank you. 24 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:44,360 Moving into citizen comment. It is 6:03 p.m. And let me get my threem minute 25 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,360 timer here. 26 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:03,680 So headed into citizen comment. Please speak up. This meeting is being recorded 27 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:07,199 for YouTube. We would appreciate if you clearly state and spell your last name 28 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:12,000 for the minutes. Please do not give us your street address. Comments are 29 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:16,639 strictly limited to three minutes per one citizen. Citizen comment is designed 30 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:21,039 for one-way commentary to address the board. All citizens providing comments 31 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:24,720 should address their remarks to the supervisor board chair who may respond 32 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,840 to provide brief and factual information. Board members will refrain 33 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:33,199 from speaking during citizen comment. If citizens need specific assistance, 34 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:37,199 please contact Ross Township during business hours for additional guidance 35 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:41,800 or information. Who would like to lead us off with 36 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:41,800 public comment? 37 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:48,759 » Good evening. My name is Ryanber. 38 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:56,720 I'm here to my support for updating the >> Ryan. Could you please put that right 39 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:00,240 up? Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm here to voice my support for 40 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:06,560 updating the township ordinance to include solar. Last month I spoke about 41 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,560 the risk cyber attack for our critical infrastructure. 42 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 » Y 43 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:24,000 I sound like I can hear it now. Start over. Okay. Uh my name is Ryan Vosberg. 44 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:27,199 Uh which vos bur. I'm here to voice my support for updating the township 45 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:32,080 ordinance to include provisions for groundmounted solar. Last month, I spoke 46 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:36,000 about the risks cyber attacks pose to our critical infrastructure and how 47 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:40,080 significantly they could disrupt our day-to-day lives. Since then, that risk 48 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:44,480 became a reality and hit much closer to home. Michigan and Minnesota reported 49 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:49,120 coordinated cyber attacks targeting municipal water and wastewater treatment 50 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:54,320 systems as confirmed by the FBI and reported across Michigan news outlets. 51 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:59,120 The intrusion intrusions affected at least nine facilities in Michigan and 52 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,279 more than 30 in Minnesota. Thankfully, the attempt itself, excuse me, 53 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,959 thankfully officials confirm drinking water safety and quality remain 54 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,560 uncompromised, but the attempt itself shows our 55 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:14,399 potential vulnerability and the will of our adversaries to attack our crit 56 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,240 critical infrastructure. Attacks like these on the power grid, if successful, 57 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:22,640 could be catastrophic for our country and our local community. Fortunately, we 58 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:28,640 have a way to make ourselves less vulnerable. Solar panels. Reducing our 59 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,720 vulnerability to de debilitating cyber attacks and lowering the continually 60 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:38,000 rising cost of electric bills make ground mounted solar an excellent option 61 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:42,800 for the residents of Ross Township. I'm humbly asking, especially on behalf of 62 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,560 those unable to take advantage of roof mounted solar, that the board update the 63 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,640 ordinance to include ground mounted solar so as many residents as possible 64 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:55,000 may take advantage of the benefits. Thank you, and I'm happy to answer any 65 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 questions. 66 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:05,200 » So board, as you'll know, that is a uh discussion point under new business, 67 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:12,720 solar for residential purposes. That is something that we'll be taking up later. 68 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:16,279 in the meeting. Next for public comment, you got to run. 69 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:24,160 » Well, I I don't have a a marine voice, first of all, but my name is Mark Rogers 70 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:30,720 and my last name is spelled R O D G E RS. Um, I issued you guys an email 71 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:37,279 asking residents on Sherman Lake Special Assessment District receive a credit and 72 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:43,560 I'd like to hand that email to you. I also did some calculations on what I 73 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,560 thought that credit should be. 74 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:53,440 The next thing I'd like to talk about is this uh citizen advisory panel. Um, I 75 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,920 really haven't I just gave this a cursory look, so I'm kind of flying by 76 00:10:56,079 --> 00:11:04,000 the seat of my pants here. Just some off-the- cuff questions here. I'd really 77 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:08,560 like to see the board um talk about this today, but not make a motion to to pass 78 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,560 it. Whatever you're going to pass, I don't understand 79 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,920 uh what the intent of a motion would be today. Um I think this is a wonderful 80 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:22,959 start there. A lot lot of good work went into this. it it covers a lot of good uh 81 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,839 details. Um I think there's some open questions. There's always open 82 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:30,880 questions. So, as I said, um these may be stupid questions, but in my three 83 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:36,880 minutes I have, I'm just going to ask some. Okay. Is this like a legal um 84 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:43,040 improvement board or is this something different than that? And uh what's the 85 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:47,839 purpose of it? Um I believe the purpose is for Ross Township to respond to what 86 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:53,519 we've asked. we have asked you to take ownership of the SAD. So I think that is 87 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:59,680 wonderful. Um but this is the main purpose for this board to to dive in do 88 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:03,360 a real deep dive into weed control and everything else on Sherman Lake and to 89 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:07,279 make a detailed proposal to the board for the board to approve. I mean who 90 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:13,279 makes the ultimate call? Is it the Ross board? I believe it is. I don't know. 91 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,320 And I I see in here there's discussion about looking at the tail end of the 92 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:22,560 current SAD and then it's going to leap into the next SAD. Is is that are you 93 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:29,040 going to look at both SADs? I I've asked for some credit. Is this panel going to 94 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:33,120 look into the credit and see if uh it's justified? I I don't know who's going to 95 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,680 do that. Um if I didn't know much about the SAD, I would make a list similar to 96 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:44,560 this to bring me up to speed on on Sherman Lake. you know, PLM, 97 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:49,839 uh, John Tui's aation company, Dr. Jones company, Eagle representative, and so 98 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:54,079 forth. Um, but this is not going to be the people necessarily that are on the 99 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:59,519 panel. Is that correct? I I I don't know who's and and then who's going to select 100 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:04,720 who are the candidates for the panel and who's going to decide? 101 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:09,760 Um, I believe this is a leasan group. I see leasan in here. I think that means 102 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:14,639 it's lay us on between the township, the lake board, and the residents. Um I I 103 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:20,480 might want to see a little bit more detail on that. Um 104 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,320 and then a a big question that the late board has been wrestling with for a 105 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:27,519 while now. Is the next SAD going to be two years? Is it going to be seven 106 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:31,920 years? So I think that's something that this this uh panel would decide. 107 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,480 » Thank you, Mr. Rogers. Time out. Okay. >> You did great though. Thank you. 108 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:43,000 Thank you. >> Next up, 109 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:55,760 » good evening. My name is Michael Moore, M [clears throat] O R E, and for the 110 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:59,440 purposes of total transparency, I am a member of the Ross Township Planning 111 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:04,320 Commission, and I'm here tonight to speak on behalf of not only Mr. of 112 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:08,880 Rossberg, but others in the township that may have a situation where 113 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,600 groundmounted solar would be the best idea for them due to the way of their 114 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:18,720 land, the design of their home, or whatever that cause may be. And as a 115 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:22,800 point of history, it was not that long ago, I don't have the exact date. I'm 116 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:27,199 sorry. I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find it. Uh we were asked by 117 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:32,320 this board, we being the planning commission were asked by this board to 118 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:37,440 look over the ordinance that was currently in effect and do any tweaking 119 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:41,760 to it that we thought was necessary, which we did. spent quite a lot of time 120 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,320 going over it, looking at all the different causes and effects and how 121 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,600 does that react with other ordinances in the township where where things are 122 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,160 planted, how close are they planted to here or to there in this front yard or 123 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:58,320 the backyard, whatever the case may be. And we came up with what we thought was 124 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:05,519 a very good ordinance and we sent it up to this board. And after their review, 125 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:10,959 they decided to, you know, adjust that and remove ground 126 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:14,639 mounted solar panels from residential applications. 127 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:22,079 And that really surprised us at the time. And I think it uh really kind of 128 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:25,680 put a bad light on people trying to do like Mr. Vossberg, you know, get to be a 129 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:30,639 little bit more independent from utilities. It's definitely clean power. 130 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,800 And I do know that at the time he was planning to build his home and I have 131 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:38,320 some personal experience with that. I was the electrical inspector in the 132 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:42,000 township at the time and was out there inspected his home when he was in the 133 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:47,040 process of building it. And he had planned from the get-go, his home was 134 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:52,720 totally electric. He was going to have solar panels out there for him to power 135 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:56,320 his home and stay off of that grid and any of the problems that come along with 136 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:01,920 it. Well, in the meantime, while the home is being built is when that 137 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:06,880 ordinance got changed. And I think it's very unfair if solar panels are going to 138 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:11,120 be allowed in residential areas, which I definitely hope that they are for those 139 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:16,639 that want to utilize it and have the good opportunity for it. It's I think in 140 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:21,920 my mind it's not really fair to limit it to roof mounted only because not 141 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:28,560 everybody's roof faces in the right direction. being an electrician in the 142 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:33,519 trade for 50 years, it uh it all depends on location, location, and location 143 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:39,040 where you put your panels. And by not being able to use ground mounted solar 144 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:43,600 panels, you're hog tying a large amount of the people. So, I hope that you take 145 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:48,160 this into consideration when you're reviewing u possible changes that you 146 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:53,920 may make. And thank you so much for the job that you guys do. I appreciate it. 147 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,920 » We appreciate you. Thank you. 148 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:09,839 My name is Nancy Boyd, B O Y D. I'm here today to talk about some documents that 149 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,839 this board has received over the past few months from two Sherman Lake 150 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:17,679 residents. They pit neighbor against neighbor in an effort to destroy the 151 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Sherman Lake water quality initiatives. In a recent foyer, I discovered that the 152 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:27,280 two of them have sent 86 pages of documentation to the township just since 153 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:31,360 June 1st. The documents were sent to try to convince you that the SLR is 154 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:35,679 incapable of managing our own water quality program. As president of the 155 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,760 SLR, my name is slandered in these documents several times and a lot of the 156 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:43,200 information is misrepresented. These documents are in addition to the foyer 157 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,240 requests and the hundreds of pages of complaints sent to both the township and 158 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:49,840 the residents over the past several years. These two both have a long 159 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,960 history of slandering their neighbors, accusing the township of illegal 160 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:57,120 activity, and questioning the integrity of our vendors. Their rhetoric is 161 00:17:54,880 --> 00:18:00,880 inflammatory and unproductive. Our water quality program was created by the 162 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,480 residents over a 20-year period for the greater good and represents the 163 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:08,640 majority. We have asked the township to help us fund the program through an SAD, 164 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:13,039 and thankfully you do. We encourage residents to join and participate in 165 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:17,679 decision-making. Um, but instead of volunteering, these two habitually 166 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:21,280 boycott the SLR meetings and then demand that we provide all the information 167 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:25,840 discussed at those meetings in a format more to their liking. If we don't do it, 168 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,360 they submit foyers to the township and then take individual facts and 169 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,799 incorporate them into false narratives. One of them created a series of home 170 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,880 videos recently and posted them on the internet. She even admits on the video 171 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:40,799 that she speaks prior to factchecking, so it's all just rumors. The same 172 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:44,000 resident has contacted area lake management companies and told them how 173 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,840 awful she believes our current program is and requested bids from them, but she 174 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,679 couldn't even articulate what they should bid on. Her actions and requests 175 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:55,679 were very unprofessional and the lake management community is small, so the 176 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,240 news got back to me. Her actions may have actually jeopardized our 177 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:02,960 relationship with some of our vendors and with Egle. The other resident has 178 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,799 done his fair share of vendor bashing in the past, almost driving our aation 179 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,600 specialist out of business. I'm concerned that some vendors won't want 180 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,520 to work with us in the future because of them. If I worked for Egle, I would hope 181 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:17,760 I'd never heard from either one of them again. The cost of the township and the 182 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,280 residents of Ross Township is high. One of them recently sued the township. She 183 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:25,440 lost in court and the township had to pay $5,000 in attorney fees. She led a 184 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:29,200 group of residents in a costly lawsuit against the township concerning the 185 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:32,640 public sewer mandate and lost. The township supervisor and I were both 186 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,720 subpoenaed to court for that. The other resident called for an SAD tax tribunal 187 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:41,280 tribunal and subpoenaed our past president. He lost. All three court 188 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:44,640 cases cost the township time and money. If the lawsuits continue, insurance 189 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,840 costs will rise and the township's ability to buy competitive priced 190 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:53,039 insurance will be in jeopardy. They submit FOYA after FOYA, sometimes daily, 191 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,640 and encourage others to do the same. The fees to the town that the township 192 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:01,200 charges do not cover the total cost, so we pay for it. After disrespecting town 193 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:04,480 fish township officials and tarnishing Sherman Lakes's reputation time and 194 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,840 again, they now want you to take over our program. When making a final 195 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:11,280 decision regarding the future of the SAD, please keep in mind that these two 196 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,640 represent a minority. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. 197 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:31,120 » Hi, my name is Tom Boyd BYD. I'm just in support of what Mrs. As Boyd just said, 198 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,120 the the SL represents a lot of people on the lake. We had a community picnic 199 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:39,520 yesterday for the Sherman Lake Residents Association. We had more than 70 200 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,679 residents in attendance. It was a potluck. We had a great time, but 201 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,919 there's a lot of support what's been done on this lake and for the local 202 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:53,840 community. I did have a chance to look at your CAP um initial read and 203 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:58,960 appreciate all the work that's gone into it. I do encourage you though before you 204 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:03,200 think about setting goals and results. Um some of these things have to go to 205 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:08,480 Egle for approval in order to be part of the SAD and many of the things you have 206 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:13,760 listed here are not things that Egle either a is interested in nor b we can 207 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:18,400 commit to because either it's it's immeasurable over time or Egle won't 208 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,400 recognize that it's a benefit to the lake. So I would just say make sure that 209 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:26,559 we know what we're talking whoever does this make sure what they know they're 210 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:30,880 talking about going forward before you put these goals in writing and on paper 211 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:36,240 because Egle will be holding us accountable and some of these things are 212 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:39,840 unobtainable or irasurable and our our limnologist can give you that 213 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:44,080 information as you go forward as a committee if that's what you choose to 214 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:48,520 do. Um and that's really all I have to say. Thank you. 215 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,520 » Thank you. 216 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:03,760 My name is Tom Sad, S A. I just want to reiterate on some of the things that 217 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:09,120 have been said along the way. Uh there was a question raised about who gave the 218 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:14,960 uh Sherman Lake board to uh the authority to make decisions uh for the 219 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:20,400 lake management. Uh I want to remind those who made that accusation to know 220 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:26,159 and remind them that the current SAD was approved by over 70% of the residents 221 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:30,480 and uh they also the residents were asked at one time I'm it's documented in 222 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,240 our meeting somewhere if they wanted to be consulted on every decision we made 223 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:41,120 about lake management and the vast majority of them said that no we could 224 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:45,280 they they they gave that uh to us that that decision was ours they trusted our 225 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:50,559 judgment in that and so they did not want to be called or uh ma emailed or 226 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,200 whatever on every single decision that was made. Contrary to what uh these 227 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:59,840 people are saying, we are not enemies of the lake. We are volunteers. A lot of us 228 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:04,559 are professionals that have other jobs and other uh you know uh 229 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:10,880 responsibilities, but we take the time to put in all the time and effort to 230 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:16,880 benefit the lake. Um several members of this SA uh the uh SLRA have gone uh 231 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:22,480 several times to the annual Michigan Lakes and Streams annual conference in 232 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Moskegan at our own expense. You pay tuition, hotel, etc. Transportation just 233 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,320 to learn about lake management and to educate our residents about lake 234 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:37,039 management. And lastly, I would like to challenge these people to tell us one 235 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:42,080 thing that they have done to benefit the lake. I I I I open openly challenge all 236 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,400 all free people that have been doing this uh because they haven't. I think 237 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:52,799 all they've done is pit people against each other and create nothing but 238 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:56,320 problems and you know uh hatred and you know I don't have to talk about the the 239 00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:59,200 posts that they've that we've seen because I think we've all seen them. 240 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:02,440 Thank you. >> Thank you. 241 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Next. 242 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Please. 243 00:24:29,181 --> 00:24:31,201 » [snorts] 244 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:40,159 » My name is Christina Hutchkins and I am here because attorney ths indicated this 245 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:45,360 is the only way I can speak is as a citizen. 246 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:49,440 I received the citizen advisory panel uh spreadsheet that everybody else received 247 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:53,039 on Thursday. I received it from attorney thaw. So this is the first time I've 248 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:56,480 been able to look at it. There are certain people that are on this board 249 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:02,080 that worked with me as a volunteer a long time ago for the law enforcement 250 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:07,279 committee. Um, I had to apply for the position to be on the law enforcement 251 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:10,640 committee. I had to distri um I had to display my background in law 252 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:14,159 enforcement, my knowledge in law enforcement, and I had to write how I 253 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:18,880 was going to be committed to finding the best law enforcement for Ross Township. 254 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:22,720 I believe that if we move forward with the citizen advisory panel that 255 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:26,480 individuals that want to volunteer and partner with Ross Township need to be 256 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,039 put through nothing less. Individuals that sit and slander the board and do 257 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:36,080 nothing to support the lake quality of Sherman Lake should not be sitting on 258 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:40,960 the citizen advisory panel and having an input at the table. I was expected to 259 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:44,799 behave in a professional manner and do what's right for Ross Township citizens. 260 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,520 And I have that same expectation when I read the citizen advisory panel. 261 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:54,799 I've lived on the Sherman Lake since 2002. I've gone through my own special 262 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,200 assessment districts when we had to get a timber bridge and we partnered with uh 263 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:04,559 Paul Dyster at the time to get our own special assessment district. Um Roger 264 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,320 used to come to my house and sit with me and we talked about the very first 265 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,600 special assessment district and the cry at the time was the channel needs 266 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:16,320 something different than the lake. That cry is still the same today. I believe 267 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,600 in citizens gathering together to sign that they want to have self-directed 268 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:24,080 money go towards their own special assessment district. We've seen it done 269 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:28,400 in Lebell. We've seen it done in Island Cove acres for the bridge. We're seeing 270 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,919 it now with Sherman Lake. What I don't want is a complete takeover because the 271 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:36,000 subject matter experts are people that live on the lake. The subject matter 272 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:42,240 experts are people that put together the sub the SLR SAD. We work with the 273 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,840 vendors. We live it. It affects our property values. We're the subject 274 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:50,640 matter experts. What I want to see is a partnership. I like everything about the 275 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:56,799 citizen advisory panel and I think you did a great job. Um, I love the fact 276 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,559 that we have a partnership that exists. I think you really got in the weeds on 277 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:06,640 this. I think we need to take it one step at a time. Let's assign somebody to 278 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:13,120 listen, ask questions, and begin to move forward together as a partnership. 279 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:18,559 We as citizens want a partnership with Ross Township when we have an SAD. We as 280 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,159 citizens need you to help us pay for things. That's why we come to you and we 281 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,679 have petitions and we say, "I'm willing to pony up the money. We want you to 282 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:29,840 help us make everybody else pay their fair share because the honest truth is 283 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:34,240 people don't want to pay." They want to reap the benefits, but they don't want 284 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,120 to pay. I like the partnership. I am behind this. I want the partnership. 285 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:42,464 » Thank you. >> And that's all I have to say. Thank you. 286 00:27:40,444 --> 00:27:42,464 [clears throat] 287 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400 » Anybody else? 288 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,559 » That is now closed. 289 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:03,120 » Moving forward into various committee updates. Doug, you're in high demand. I 290 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,320 heard your beeper already go off again. Do you want to lead us off? 291 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320 » Sure. 292 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:17,600 So July was probably I think that's probably the busiest month we ever had. 293 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:25,720 We had 71 calls, which is my math is over two calls a day. Um so that puts us 294 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:25,720 at um 295 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:37,520 we'd responded to 346 calls. Uh last year we So we're about responded to 300. 296 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:42,080 So we're 46 calls ahead of last year and this month has been a little bit slower 297 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:45,289 but not much. So, [clears throat] so response totals, we had a structure 298 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,240 fire, two structure fires, >> [snorts] 299 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:54,559 » uh, vehicle fire like usual. The medical calls are 36 calls, couple accidents, 300 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:59,520 injuries, no injuries, fire alarms. Um, by area, Ross Township had 55, village 301 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:07,919 of Augusta had 11, out of township, five for the mutual aid. uh Fort Kuster area, 302 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:13,039 our G Avenue 96 call, another one at Fort Kuster, two uh structure fires that 303 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:20,039 we assisted Richland on. So we received no mutual aid for the uh for the month. 304 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,039 So 305 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:28,640 um we of course we participated in the 306 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Fourth of July parade. Um we also took our ebikes up there. We responded on one 307 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:40,240 medical emergency during the parade with our with our bubike. Um we've done a 308 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:48,320 couple other um u events to the um one at the school. Um 309 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:53,360 we did also a spray down at the McKay library picnic. Um we did our car show 310 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:59,480 here couple weeks ago uh which was a good 311 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480 success. Um, 312 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:04,919 I've got a couple things here. I got it. So, I 313 00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:13,039 which way we want to start. No. So, I I Mr. Dy. So, I talked to him. 314 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,559 » I need to send pictures. I talked to Jeff Lansky today. I He needs pictures. 315 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:20,000 » Oh, this is the driveway guy. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 316 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:24,480 » He needs to see pictures and our report number and that kind of stuff. So, I'm 317 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:26,960 Jake's working on that for me right now. Uh so we can send that to him. 318 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,000 » Good. >> Um he's by the pictures his driveway did 319 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,440 get damaged. So it's unfortunate but it did get damaged. So what it's going to 320 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:37,760 » what it's going to amount to but that's what we have insurance for. 321 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:42,880 » We'll figure it out. >> Um 322 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,440 the combi tool it was okay. So we can go ahead. I haven't purchased yet but it's 323 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,720 okay. We >> I signed it. It's in your basket. We'll 324 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:54,000 go ahead and do that. Go to town. >> We'll go ahead and do that. Um, 325 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,320 we've ordered hose and nozzles for the new truck. So, that stuff is will be 326 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,159 here hopefully. I >> checked with the fire US fire. They're 327 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:05,360 working on but they haven't got any pictures to us yet. So, they'll be doing 328 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,559 that here hopefully this month sometime they'll have 329 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720 » of our rig. >> Yes. Good. 330 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:13,760 » So, hopefully they'll have that. >> Um, Pavilion Township is inquired about 331 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:19,679 our truck that we will be getting rid of. So, um I going to try to show it to 332 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,880 him because we host the chief's meeting here on the second up here. So, I'm 333 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,440 going to try to have that truck I'll have that truck up. I'm not going to try 334 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,120 to I'm going to have the truck up here so he can look at it unless he wants to 335 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,440 look at it beforehand and see what kind of price he thinks. I've got an idea in 336 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:41,559 my head what it's worth. See what he comes up with and see if we're pretty 337 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,559 close and do it that way. Um, 338 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:48,240 our one truck over here, 412, the Spartan, they're coming to fix that 339 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:51,840 tomorrow that's got a water pump issue. I don't have I don't have a price, but I 340 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:56,080 wouldn't be surprised. It's going to be probably four or 5,000 bucks, but I'm 341 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,480 not positive. So, >> we need water. So, that's got to be 342 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:03,120 fixed. It's got to be fixed. It's leaking anifreeze. 343 00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:06,640 » Uh, and then the second truck is got a anac brake issue. So, they're going to 344 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,279 check that out and then give me what it's going to need for that one. Is that 345 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:12,320 a newer truck? Is that one under warranty? That's the old one. Okay. 346 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,760 » Yeah, nothing's under warranty. >> Okay. 347 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:20,960 » So, uh Okay, let me skip around here. Number five. Um so, I talked about 348 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:23,840 uh tonight we have the three new applicants are coming trying to get 349 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,960 onboarded. >> Good. 350 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:31,840 » Uh with gear and pagers and that kind of stuff. They passed their physicals. One 351 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:37,440 had a little issue and just had to get an update on it from his doctor. So uh 352 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:42,799 so his doctor sent me that note which I so I got include sent that got sent back 353 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:52,640 to Bioare. Um then today we participated in the uh uh 354 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:57,760 wall the heels procession. So um and it's open to the public starting I think 355 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:01,279 Thursday. Uh I highly recommend anybody that would want to go. It's open 24 356 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,679 hours a day. So and then they also do taps at 9:00. So, um, I highly recommend 357 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:09,919 anybody going to see it. It's pretty pretty 358 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:14,240 amazing. So, uh, anybody that's had anybody that's been in the service 359 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,120 anywhere. So, >> thanks, Chief. 360 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:21,440 » So, any questions? >> Um, just a real quick question. This is 361 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,760 for attorney Th So, he has a thought on how much he 362 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,120 wants to sell the truck for. He knows better than all of us. I'm assuming he 363 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,838 can do the deal with Pavilion Township and then tell us what he sold it for. Is 364 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,039 that a correct assumption? [clears throat] 365 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:38,480 » No, he needs >> uh he would need to get uh authority 366 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,240 from the board to sell. >> Okay. 367 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,799 » Yeah. What property? >> I'm just going to go ahead. I don't have 368 00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:46,320 a title anyway, so I'm not just going to >> Well, we've got the title, but I mean, 369 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:48,720 does he he would choose the pricing or we have to approve it first? And what 370 00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:53,360 does that look like? >> The price just has to be um a fair 371 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:58,159 » Yeah, I've got fair value for value. >> I've got an idea in my mind. I want to 372 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:02,960 see what Carl from Pavilion has and see if we're somewhat close. And then 373 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:04,240 » how do you how do you validate that that that's 374 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:08,320 » what what the value is? >> That's a that's a fair market value for 375 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,639 » I mean so Rob did a little checking through AI and the prices he came up 376 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:17,440 with were less than what I thought it was going to be worth. So it's kind of 377 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,480 we we'll we'll kind of see where we're if we meet in the middle or 378 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,119 » and when are they going to be here to look at it? 379 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:27,679 » Uh September 2nd which is the first Wednesday in September. So we have I 380 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,879 host a chief's meeting up here. So, >> so would there be time to just bring it 381 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:38,399 to the September board meeting and maybe bring whatever backup that you know the 382 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:43,040 AI search and here's what we found and here's what we settled on. 383 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,560 » Well, I mean because that'll be September 2nd. So the board meeting in 384 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:49,440 September will be I mean but >> would that be not be fast enough? I mean 385 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,760 if he wants it on the second he's you want 386 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:57,359 » to sell it until we have our other truck anyway. I mean so it's going to be 387 00:34:54,079 --> 00:35:00,800 supposedly our truck is still on on schedule for the middle to end of 388 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,480 October. So >> So we're not gonna that truck won't be 389 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:10,240 going anywhere until that happens. >> So I think it's se I'm not calendar 390 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:15,599 September 15th I think is the >> is the meeting. So I mean would that be 391 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:20,960 soon enough if he um well he wants to kind of know because Sel Pavilion has 392 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:26,240 taken over Brady or Weshma or whatever it is. So 393 00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:30,400 they want they need a truck to fill that station. So they want to know kind of he 394 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,839 wants to know kind of fairly soon because otherwise then they're going to 395 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:38,480 look somewhere else and and so they have a truck ready to go. I I think he'll 396 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:44,240 wait. If he knows that it he can have it in in October. But if it's going to be 397 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:48,800 if we decide we're not going to leave him hanging then he's going to uh pursue 398 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,720 other options. So because he's got to have something coming up because they're 399 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:55,359 taking over another township even though it's pavilion. So they're kind of 400 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,960 running. >> So do you do you have the information 401 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:05,760 that I mean you could go get the information, bring it into us and and 402 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:10,160 say here's what we found online. You know they're running this and and then 403 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:14,960 we could potentially look at giving you a a range 404 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,079 » to operate within that. No, you know, no less. Well, I guess there would be no 405 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:24,640 just a bottom range. We don't care how high you go, but uh just a bottom range 406 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:28,320 that not to go below this based on what what you found. 407 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:33,280 » I mean, because like the one truck we sold about 20 years ago, we only got 408 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:39,680 five we actually we didn't even get $5,000 for it, but Bittery gave us made 409 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:43,839 sure we got 5,000. Now, the last pumper that we sold, I think we got 25. And 410 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:49,280 then the tanker that we sold, I think we got I'd have to go back through the 411 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:54,400 records. I think we got 44 um four or five years ago and that didn't have a 412 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:59,520 pump. So in that area, that's the range is what I'm thinking is in the $40,000 413 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,840 range with the equipment that's on it. But [clears throat] 414 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,800 that's kind of what I'm and then the what Rob came up with for the AI shows 415 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,760 that it was less than that. But we'll see. I mean, that's kind of what I'm 416 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:16,160 thinking, though. >> What we really want to see is bid before 417 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:20,320 we put in meeting minutes and have it on TV that says, "Oh, hey, we'll take 35." 418 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:22,160 Right. >> It's kind of a 419 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,880 » Huh. >> That's an issue like you can't, 420 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:30,079 » right? Right. >> So, somebody 421 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:34,880 But I guess what I guess what I would suggest is get your bid and if you're 422 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,400 happy with it, bring it into the September 15th meeting because it's 423 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,720 early in September. bring us the third Tuesday 424 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,280 » and if we approve >> you can let them know right then you can 425 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,119 have his truck when our new one comes in. 426 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,839 » Right. Yeah. And that's kind of what I told him. I said 427 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,400 » I'll bring it up for our the fire chief's meeting. You look at it if it's 428 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:52,240 something that you even still want to want. Right. 429 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:56,079 » And then >> you come up with an idea on what you 430 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,480 think it you want to what you can spend or what you want. I don't know. I don't 431 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,960 know how he's working it for sure. But >> Right. 432 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,720 » And and if you're happy with what you're seeing, write it up. Get it to us in 433 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:08,640 advance so we can look at it ahead of time. It'll be a threem minute 434 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,000 conversation. >> Okay. 435 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,119 » Thanks, Chief. >> Good. 436 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,119 » Appreciate you. >> Next. 437 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:27,839 » Hello. >> Lori Phillips, Lifeare Ambulance. Um, I 438 00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:34,800 provided the report early on for you, so I hope you have that. Uh last month um 439 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:40,560 we ran 27 licensed siren responses and 17 non-licensed siren responses. Um and 440 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:45,119 we transported all but four patients. So that was a high transport month. Uh to 441 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:50,640 give you an idea, it's up 40% from last year in July. So uh we did have a busy 442 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:54,240 month. We only had one respon or one um call where we transported to the 443 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,240 hospital with license siren. So um that falls well within what we're looking 444 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:02,800 for. Our average response time for party one which is the licensed sirens is 10 445 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:07,839 minutes 4 seconds or 10.4 minutes and for the non-licensed sirens is 11.5 446 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:12,720 minutes. Uh we received mutual aid from life EMS helped us out on two calls and 447 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:18,560 we um provided them with mutual aid on eight calls this last month. Um 448 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,800 as you can see Beacon Calamazoo seems to be where we're transporting the most of 449 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:28,160 the time um with Bronson Battle Creek um being the last. And then our staffing um 450 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:33,760 100% for the day truck. The night truck is at 93% and the gentleman who was on a 451 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:39,359 medical uh leave of absence is returning here next week I believe it is. So um 452 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:44,720 that should go up again and we're going to meet the beginning of September to 453 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,520 start negotiation for the next contract. Any questions? 454 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,920 » Thank you. >> Thank you Lori. 455 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:04,880 Good evening, folks. Um, no real surprises here. We had our first 456 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:09,760 boat accident on the water this month of July. Nothing significant, just minor 457 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:18,000 damage. Um, as you can see, Marine Patrol hours, 40 police officer hours, 458 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:23,839 10 on the water this month. Um, we've had a very good month. Uh if you 459 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:34,160 look at the ticket numbers, you see the final C uh numbers for the month of 460 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:39,119 July. Um 65 tickets, 39 warnings. >> Where's that? I don't have that. 461 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:43,760 » Oh, on your Oh, right here. Yeah, >> I was excited. Thanks. 462 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:51,520 » Um so far the month of August, 18 tickets, 14 warnings. uh program seems 463 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:58,079 to be doing what I intended it to do. Um and we'll be on track uh 464 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:03,760 in next month giving you some more numbers and uh in October giving you the 465 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:10,480 90 days that you asked for so that you can uh make a determination on the uh 466 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:15,839 success of this program. >> Any questions? 467 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:21,119 » Are the 65 tickets in July? Yes. >> How many are they? Uh you like I got a 468 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,000 ticket now I'm complaining that I shouldn't have a ticket and I'm taking 469 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,520 it to court. How many is that happening there? 470 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,000 » Um one. >> Just one out of the 65. 471 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:34,319 » Yes sir. >> Thank you. 472 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:39,200 » The nice thing about that um is the way the technology has changed. When I was 473 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:43,119 doing this, it was a drudgery to head down in the courtroom. Now it's all done 474 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:48,800 by phone. Um, so the officer can be out writing 475 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:53,119 tickets and be in court at the same time. It's pretty slick. 476 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,440 » So curious that one, how fast was that person going? 477 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,079 » Uh, >> do you recall? 478 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:07,359 » He was I pulled it just pulled it today because we got it today. Um, 479 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:11,440 he was 10 miles over. So um, he rode him for 10. he was actually doing more than 480 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:14,640 that, but I couldn't tell you the exact number right now 481 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,680 » sitting back on my desk there. >> Are there any um you know part of this 482 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:23,394 it's kind of that you know the broken window concept where when you're taking 483 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,440 care of the little things sometimes [clears throat] you find some bigger 484 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:31,200 things. Have there been any other um in the process of writing a ticket? We 485 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:36,240 » just one arrest for warrants out of the Kalazoo. Um 486 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:40,079 you know, nobody off the FBI 10 most wanted yet, but we're working on that. 487 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,640 They have a tendency not come through our township. 488 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,280 » That's the way we like it. >> Yep. 489 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:51,440 » Yeah. So, um other than that, we're doing good. 490 00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:57,839 » Great job, Chief. Oh, one last. What's the expected lag in like we wrote these 491 00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:02,880 many tickets in July, revenues from those would be in in August or they 492 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:08,160 what's the delay estimated? >> It should they have 10 days to deal with 493 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:17,040 it which means either pay it or ask for a court date. Um, so 494 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:24,240 the July tickets we should get the first week of uh they come once 495 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:31,200 a month to the treasurer. Um, I'm not sure what day of the week it it shows 496 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:36,079 up, but you know by September we should have a good an idea of how quick those 497 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,760 are coming in. >> Okay. But [clears throat] you know they 498 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,880 have 10 days from the date of the issuance to either ask for a court date 499 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,200 or pay it. >> All right. Thank you. 500 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,920 » So >> thanks chief. 501 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,920 » Yep. 502 00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:02,200 » I don't see anybody else from the road commission. 503 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,200 Nope. Okay. 504 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:09,680 Um a review of old business. Amanda is not here. She's at a conference. Um, so 505 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,119 we're going to gloss over the neighborhood streetlight special 506 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,319 assessment. I think you guys have to do a public hearing, don't you? 507 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:21,839 » Yeah, we'll end up with uh public hearings probably September, October. 508 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:26,160 It's just got to be accomplished no later than the end of November so it can 509 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:31,880 be build out on the December tax bill. So hopefully September, October, it's 510 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,880 taken care of. 511 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:39,920 » Thank you for that. And Lori already did the new business update, the ambulance 512 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,000 services agreement. We are maintenance September. So we're gonna begin to look 513 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:49,920 at our agreement again. So under new business, citizen advisory 514 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:55,200 panel liaison for Sherman Lake SAD. So who would like to take this on? Is 515 00:44:51,920 --> 00:45:00,880 this [clears throat] up? >> Well, I proposed uh being the board lay 516 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:06,079 on and I kind of did some studying. I wrote up their proposal. I know that uh 517 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:11,280 you know in this case we have uh Christina and Amanda that can vote. 518 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:17,280 There's only a quorum of or not a quorum but there's only five of us to be able 519 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:24,480 to what we say uh manage I would say the balance of this sad and what we're going 520 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:30,079 to be doing in the future because uh you know from my perspective we got kind of 521 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:35,040 thrown for a loop when we were told that we have to manage this ad because you 522 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,400 know we I I wasn't operating as if we did you know 523 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,560 and I don't know if anyone felt different but I don't think 524 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:47,520 you do. So in this particular case with the level of complexity 525 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:52,640 uh I felt that uh you know he asked for a proposal when we talked about how all 526 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:58,240 five of us can stay very cognizant of what's happening and do proper approvals 527 00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:02,960 of what is you know should happen or what is voted on etc. And there's a lot 528 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:08,800 of questions out there based on the plethora of emails that are coming in 529 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:13,680 from those who are asking questions and not getting answers. And then uh and it 530 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:19,359 turns into, you know, neighborhood battles, right? And and and from a board 531 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:22,240 perspective, the five of us, that's all we're hearing. You know, we're seeing 532 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:28,720 the emails and we're hearing the public comment. Nobody has been getting 533 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:35,119 involved and uh and then therefore they are not in a position to uh take the the 534 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:40,800 information that can be gathered and put it in a in a form that the five of us 535 00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:44,880 would would totally understand as we would move forward with the two. You 536 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:49,280 know, we have a concern that what's going on with the current SAD. 537 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,119 This proposal is basically you know it's just the first bullet point is we need 538 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:59,760 to find out exactly where we are with the uh finances on the 2000 you're the 539 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:04,720 one that is going to end uh and then going forward the idea here is to not go 540 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,359 backwards over six or seven years and say would have could have should have 541 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:14,079 you know I mean that's not what I would think a liaison would work but but if I 542 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:18,480 do it right if this is acceptable and and I and I shared in the proposal that 543 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,760 it has the pass three to one because I'm not going to vote on it because, you 544 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:28,640 know, I think that could be considered a conflict as well. Uh that that uh I'm 545 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,960 hoping it would help everybody, you know, in terms of the relationship with 546 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,720 the board, the relationship with each other we would deal with, you know, and 547 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,000 again there's I think there's a lot of information out there that just isn't 548 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:46,079 out there to some too many. And then there uh you know what what would we 549 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:51,920 look at for opportunities coming up in 200 uh 27 we asked for already a 550 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:56,160 schedule what do we need to do what milestones do we need to hit in order to 551 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,720 even be in a position of that I still haven't seen that it has to be driven 552 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:05,760 you know I don't think we can just expect it to show up at the next board 553 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:11,440 meeting and uh because because it hasn't uh so that's you know my proposal I 554 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:16,240 think everybody has seen it now You know, I just really want to zero in on 555 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:20,800 the fact that the initial activities as the second bullet point may include the 556 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:26,559 following with flexibility to add other activities as you know as they emerge. 557 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,960 And already because I had written this back, I think it was July 25th, there's 558 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:37,520 a ton of information that's come forward to me since then, that warrants 559 00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:42,319 additional study. And and and and for us to just spend time in a board meeting 560 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:47,760 trying to put that all together, I think it's going to be difficult at best 561 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:52,319 because it's it's going to take hours. But if we can um put things together, 562 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,160 have agreement, you know, we talk about who's going to be on the cap. I don't 563 00:48:54,240 --> 00:49:00,480 know yet. You know, I have an idea that that there's going to be volunteers and 564 00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:04,720 and and how do we get those volunteers, right? That's something that I would 565 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:09,200 like to establish as part of the leaison work. We talk about the voting, you 566 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:14,559 know, I think law says we can look at a SAT if it's 51%. That might be kind of 567 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:18,640 low, right? We may want to have the cap opine on that and say, "Hey, if we get 568 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,559 70, we're in. If we get 80, we're in." You know, but those are the kind of 569 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:27,920 things that I think we can drive so that the board can be comfortable approving 570 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:34,400 uh what it is that needs to be approved from a board level to have a successful 571 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:39,920 program on Sherman Lake uh to allow, you know, everybody to uh how do you want to 572 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:44,960 say it to enjoy clean water. uh you know my background I think 573 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:50,240 everybody's aware uh not everybody but you know I'm a I'm a paper scientist by 574 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:55,200 trade but I ended up in banking at the end of my uh life but you know I I as a 575 00:49:53,839 --> 00:50:00,160 paper scientist you have a lot of environmental engineering background uh 576 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:04,000 I have uh you know paper mills that I ran you know the the water treatment 577 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:09,040 plant reported up through to me so you know I dealt with uh DNR I dealt with a 578 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,119 lot of people that were involved in water because we discharge directly to 579 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:19,520 to rivers, you know, and so that's very important. So, so I I bring that as, you 580 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:26,559 know, just a little bit of uh, you know, experience and exposure. So, 581 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,240 I I guess I'm open for thoughts, comments, or if somebody has a specific 582 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:35,760 question on this. >> I put together a few thoughts. Um, I was 583 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:40,559 very impressed that Mike put together a working proposal or plan for the citizen 584 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:46,000 advisory leazison to the board for the position of the 2027 Sherman Lake SAD 585 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:50,960 proposal. This was completed within a few days of our July meeting and I 586 00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:55,040 received no other personal plan proposal or plan from board members. I feel 587 00:50:53,359 --> 00:51:00,240 without such a plan and Mike's leadership to accomplish this much will 588 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:04,319 not be accomplished or resolved. Mike has the skills and time. He has held 589 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:11,119 several management positions in employment through his through his work 590 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:15,520 career. Uh he is a able to abil he has the ability to organize and follow 591 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:21,760 through. He has the time available to do so. Is not biased or does not have a 592 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:27,200 conflict of interest. He has negotiation rem and remediation skills. he can 593 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:33,040 handle the position without a second board member and should be compensated 594 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:42,280 for his time as an adviser which uh the expense can be covered I think by 595 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:42,280 the um SAD and that's my comments. 596 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:51,300 » Yeah, I would just say I replied back to you. I thought you did excellent job 597 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:55,760 laying it out. Um I think there's [clears throat] a lot of work to go into 598 00:51:53,200 --> 00:52:01,040 it. Uh you know that so there's the liaison role and I I would agree that 599 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:07,040 that you know one person in the liaison role when it gets to the 600 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:12,960 actually setting up who's on the um advisory panel. We may want to look at 601 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:16,720 is does it make sense to have uh two no more than three you know potential board 602 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,400 members on that and who would be the right ones to have on that. But I I you 603 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,040 know >> I have a thought on that, Lynn. 604 00:52:22,071 --> 00:52:27,200 [clears throat] Um first of all, since there's only five of us, you can't have 605 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:33,040 more than one additional or we're going to have a quorum. 606 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:38,400 and and and my thought based on that is if anyone wants to designate themsel 607 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:42,800 like maybe you do what I can do is just share what the schedule is you know and 608 00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:46,319 and and and say hey here's what we have coming up over the next time period you 609 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,839 know because some things I'm I'm picturing it's going to be a call in the 610 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,319 morning we're talking in the afternoon you know but as soon as I would know I 611 00:52:51,599 --> 00:53:00,559 can publish that and then whenever uh you can make it then uh I would welcome 612 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:04,400 that and and if it means that hey we're going to you know interview and decide 613 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,680 and look at what the you know the rules are of the SAD and all that that should 614 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:12,160 be well in advance you know that's not going to be trying to fit myself into 615 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:19,760 other people's schedules who are >> No I I I think you have to do that that 616 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:24,319 way um you know I would I know Mary you had expressed an interest in doing it 617 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:30,319 I'm look as much as I would would like to uh when I'm looking at my schedule 618 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:34,240 over the next period of time. I'm just not sure I I could do it uh with 619 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:38,640 everything I've got going on. I know Mary expressed a an interest in it, but 620 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:43,040 I think when it comes to the obviously the decisions on who's going to be on 621 00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:48,160 it, I think that needs to come back to the board with here's here's who's you 622 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:54,800 know, we're recommending here's why we think they should be on it and so the so 623 00:53:50,960 --> 00:54:00,160 the board can approve that. But um >> yeah, that could work. I mean, if if if 624 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:06,800 nobody else wants to be that second person that would be joining more for 625 00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:09,359 being edified on it, then I would I would do my best to do it. But if 626 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:18,440 there's somebody else who's like, I think I got the time to to do it. 627 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:18,440 » Am I allowed to comment or no? 628 00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:26,640 » I've I've spoken with Mike since that proposal came out to all of us. We've 629 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:30,880 had a great conversation and I think I've given you some information that you 630 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:36,559 had been missing and I told you that I had more information that I could share 631 00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:39,800 with you. So, I mean I I think this is a good idea. 632 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:51,599 » So, I guess my questions moving into this is [clears throat] 633 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:56,000 are we deciding this tonight? If so, I guess I would want more details. I know 634 00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:00,800 he Mike you stated in here you know very clearly that your approximate was 70 70 635 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:08,160 hours and I know that's just an approximation for 80% of the work. So 636 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:11,920 you know how long of a term is this for? And I mean to me this is just something 637 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:18,160 that's going to exist as long as the SAT exists. Correct? And if so 638 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:25,119 that seems like an awful low number of hours to me. Is that just to get it 639 00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:29,359 established or is that I guess if you could expand [clears throat] on that? 640 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:34,400 » My opinion is that I I could I sense I can reach an end point where everybody 641 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:40,480 has the right understanding of of how a plague management is going to be managed 642 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:43,599 with board approval. And once we have board approval and we have the 643 00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:48,640 underpinning information on how is it going to be 644 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:54,720 managed I think that could be the end of the delay zone work and and we've 645 00:55:51,599 --> 00:56:00,319 already talked about uh a milestones you know that we have to reach milestones in 646 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:06,880 early 2027 in order to be uh prepared to even address Assad and and we need to 647 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:11,920 understand what those milestones are. Uh and and like I say, I would I would 648 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:16,400 picture in this case, I have a lot of study to do and then from that I have a 649 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:22,240 lot of talking to do and I have a lot of information that is flowing in from uh 650 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:28,799 citizens. I have information from uh Mary. I probably have information from 651 00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:36,480 uh you know our our assessor and and Amanda as well. Uh but the idea here 652 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:40,799 would be the board can see it and if uh my opinion is if the board, you know, if 653 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:44,079 we're at 35 or 40 hours because I'm going to show a log and what we're 654 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:49,680 accomplishing and where we're heading to the board, uh if you sense that it's not 655 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:55,240 going fast enough or you're not happy with the product, just tell me. I'll be 656 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,240 done. 657 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:04,960 And who determines that this is coming out of the SAD or you know the the 658 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:09,760 payment or whatever the who's funding it and or how is it going to be funded? 659 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:15,119 » So the SAD covers uh administrative expenses of operating the SAD. So I 660 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:20,400 think to the extent it is the current SAD that dollars that you're looking at 661 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:25,520 and and how the current SAD is operating and how that's going to wind up. I think 662 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:31,200 those come out of the current SAD. If it's to establish a new SAD, that should 663 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:35,920 be tracked and would be included in potential, you know, if if there is a 664 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:40,640 new SAD, it would be included in the the new SAD. So you will have to kind of 665 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:45,280 separate out how you spend your time whether it's on the current SAD issues 666 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:49,119 and then things to address moving forward with the new SAD those would be 667 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:54,720 considered administrative expenses on the on the new SAD and uh should be 668 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:59,599 segmented out. So if you do move forward with the new SAD you would include those 669 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:02,079 in those admin costs. I can do that. 670 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:08,079 » Please. I >> already uh like I say, I'm the lay on 671 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:12,319 for the PC. I'm also the ZBA. I do the meeting minutes. And Mary, I would just 672 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:16,640 probably allocate it that exact same way I do with that. And it's it's perfect. 673 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:21,920 Then >> what's the what's the dollar value in 674 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:26,160 the current SAD? What not? What's left? What I mean, what was 675 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:30,720 it? Uh >> that's the number one bullet point that 676 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,720 we have to figure out. 677 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,160 Because at this point, nobody knows. 678 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,559 » That's the like I say that's the very first bullet point we did because once 679 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:47,200 we once we understand that we'll understand a lot of things. 680 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:50,799 » That's something >> microphone. Oh, that's something Amanda 681 00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:55,440 and I can get >> where I was going. I was going to back 682 00:58:52,799 --> 00:59:00,720 » I can actually just pull that as an expense in revenue just for the SAD and 683 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:07,000 I can also give you the uh information on um invoices that I've paid up to now. 684 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:16,319 where I was going is looking at the, you know, from a percentage standpoint, what 685 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:21,119 this would potentially look like, you know, as a 686 00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:23,760 fraction of a percent or, you know, based on what the total SAT is to put in 687 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,599 perspective. >> I'm sure I could get you that 688 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:31,040 information for the next meeting. 689 00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:34,880 » Anybody know what the total tax collected on a yearly basis is for this 690 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,280 ad at this meeting? I know Amanda is not here, you know. 691 00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:43,880 No. >> So, and again that's 692 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,880 » Yeah. Yeah. 693 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:51,200 » All can work off of the same page without these type of conversations. 694 00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,599 » So, >> of what your rate is going to be? 695 00:59:53,680 --> 01:00:00,200 » Uh the rate would be the rate I've had since I don't know uh 696 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:19,280 And that was the rate, you know, when I did the cemetery 697 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:25,520 uh review for the perpetual fund, when we did ARP, you know, getting that last 698 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:32,400 several hundred,000 into, you know, our funds, uh 699 01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:36,680 helping the prior clerk [clears throat] Not you, the prior one. 700 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:47,240 » I should say a prior one there. So your your budget it was 70 hours at to get to 701 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,240 80%. 702 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:57,119 » No, no, I know. I'm just But just I'm just trying to put in perspective to the 703 01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,520 to the amount. So Whoops. 704 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,160 If I could type. 705 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:15,240 Yeah, I got 29.40. So, three say $3,000 706 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,887 gross. [laughter] 707 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:32,559 Now, um based on on there's leg work up front to just get up to speed and um 708 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:36,000 in in the first quarter when you're out of pocket. I mean, 709 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:40,880 obviously you're out of pocket, but you're not unreachable. Is it stuff you 710 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:47,359 think you can just uh can do remotely without a problem? I believe it will be 711 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:55,400 because by the time January hits, I'll be well over 70% I think done from what 712 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,400 I what I'm picturing in my head. 713 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:09,520 All right. So, I guess the the question on the table is do we do do people want 714 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:14,319 to think about more questions and postpone this motion? Uh, or are we 715 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,920 ready to make a motion to tonight? 716 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,280 Problem is, if we wait another month, it's going to be what? Not maybe not get 717 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:28,799 done in January. It might not get done till February, 718 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:32,160 but you know, I don't know how soon we >> I would I would lose a month on that. 719 01:02:31,228 --> 01:02:36,000 [clears throat] you should start. 720 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:41,520 » Okay. Yeah. Now, I make a motion that we move forward with this with Mike at the 721 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:45,400 helm and um because we need we need to we need to start immediately. 722 01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:50,720 » I beat you to it. >> Thanks for reading my mind because 723 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,319 that's what I wanted to say. So, I appreciate that. So, we have a motion 724 01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:57,760 and support to move forward with the citizen advisory panel effective 725 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:04,400 immediately. have >> no with the uh 726 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:07,920 » the liaison role and then you will define the citizen advisory panel. 727 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,760 » Yeah. And I'll bring it to the board before it's actually created. I 728 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:16,640 » Right. >> Yeah. This is this is a role um this is 729 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:22,400 not going to sound this is a role without uh you know any authority to 730 01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:28,160 make decisions make recommendations much like the advisory committee once it gets 731 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,119 going or advisory panel same thing make recommendations they got to come to the 732 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:35,680 board to get approved >> so I have a motion in support to create 733 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:39,520 a liaison for the Sherman Lake special assessment district motion and support 734 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:45,520 any further discussion >> I have one last 735 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:50,960 thing to clarify. I guess what if is there any way we find out that there is 736 01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:55,520 no money in the SAD to compensate him for? I mean, it sounds like nobody knows 737 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:59,200 what what it is. So, what happens if that is the case? 738 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:02,319 » Then the township would be on the hook for the money. 739 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:04,319 » Yeah, I would be more comfortable to find that out first before I was to 740 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,240 vote. >> It's the number one question. 741 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:15,400 It's the number one thing on this list. So find that one out first. 742 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,400 » Yeah, Mary knows the answer to this. 743 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:23,359 » I haven't looked recently. I would have to go look. I mean, I would have to go 744 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,400 jump on my computer and bring it up and see. 745 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:31,799 » You could make your motion contingent upon uh funds being available. 746 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:41,520 I would make the motion that we continue if the funds are available that we 747 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:48,319 » I I will >> revise my motion amenders. 748 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:52,319 » I will amend my motion to to say that we will move forward with the creating a 749 01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:57,599 liaison position for the Sherman Lake SAD as long as there's funding within 750 01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:01,680 the SAD to support it. >> And I'll keep my second We have a 751 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,280 motion. >> We have a motion in support to create 752 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,240 the liaison for the Sherman Lake special assessment district contingent on 753 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,880 funding. >> The um I I do have one question, 754 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:19,680 Michael. Based on as you laid that out and some of it's old SAD, some of it's 755 01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:24,880 new SAD. Do you have a feel for what percent of that 70 hours would 756 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:30,960 be spent on the on the old getting up to speed? Is that a majority of it? Because 757 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,960 that that's what's going to 758 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,480 Okay. [clears throat] The way I would picture it is I would think it' be less 759 01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:41,280 than 10% on the old side. >> Okay. 760 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:47,520 » Because when [clears throat] uh we want to know exactly where the money stands 761 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:51,119 today, what was the plan? What what did we do? 762 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:55,200 Have a lot of these units audits. You know, I'm sure he does audits on the SAD 763 01:05:53,200 --> 01:06:00,960 and then know exactly where we stand in 27. then I'm done with that because my 764 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:06,000 role is more focused you know I think we need to understand that but it's more 765 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,799 focused on how do we meet our milestones to be in position to make a 766 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:15,839 determination >> right so that that would imply in round 767 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:21,520 numbers there needs to be about $500 or less in the old SAD because the new set 768 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:27,119 hadn't been written >> and and to me that timing is going to be 769 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:33,839 based on how nimble both uh Mary and Amanda are along with 770 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,160 » audit on some just tax returns. So, so 771 01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:43,200 » a tax returns >> should you proceed down this path 772 01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:47,920 » and a new SAD doesn't happen then the the amount of time that would get there 773 01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:52,799 would then have to go to the township because there would be no no new SAD 774 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,359 that's a lot of sadness right in there a lot of sad 775 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,839 » and that does happen I mean you can incur expenses 776 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:04,960 going into a SAD and then >> the board doesn't approve it you know 777 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,960 things of that sort So, um, that does happen. 778 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:17,920 All right. >> Okay. Motion in support to create the 779 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:24,839 lison rule for the Sherman Lake Special Assessment District contingent on 780 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,839 funding. Any further discussion? 781 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:32,559 » No, she just didn't call. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought she had a 782 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:36,480 question. Hutchings abstain. Is this a roll call vote? 783 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,280 » Yes. >> Supervisor Hutchings. 784 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,400 » Abstain. >> Trusty White. 785 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:44,720 » I. >> Trusty Beaks. 786 01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:46,799 » I abstain. >> Trusty Dangshaw. 787 01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:48,799 » Hi. >> Trusty Harman. 788 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:55,240 » I. >> Clerk Stage. I 789 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,240 » congratulations. 790 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,480 And I [clears throat] know it's already in a motion, but 791 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:06,799 » microphone >> prepare different material for Todd, 792 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:10,319 yourself, and Lynn and Mary and Diana. If you'd like it in a different form, 793 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:14,160 just let me know. I just want to make sure that when you're reading it, it's 794 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:18,400 it's it's [snorts] it makes sense. It's logical. You can 795 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:22,640 follow it so that when we come with recommendations, it's not like you're 796 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:27,600 going to be on a blank slate and and and hanging yourself out. So, but I'll put 797 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:32,000 together, you know, the logs. I'll put together the uh, you know, the data that 798 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:36,080 the will be shared with the board. I'm sure it'll be foyable, right? And so, 799 01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:43,359 it'll be in a form where it'll be very easy to pass on. And as we talk, I may 800 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:47,279 end up publishing that, too, because, you know, like I say, I just 801 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,719 want everybody to know everything that's going on. 802 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:56,640 » Great. Sounds good. You do a good job. We look forward to working with 803 01:08:53,520 --> 01:09:00,799 many of you over the next uh month, month and a half. 804 01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:05,679 Thank you. [clears throat] Thank you. >> Thank you. Don't go too far because 805 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:12,319 you're next. So, I'm going to call on you to give us the background for u Mr. 806 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:18,560 Vosberg. Mr. Vosberg came into your arena with his quest for solar. 807 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:22,880 So, [clears throat] let's begin that discussion from your vantage point and 808 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:25,759 how the Ross Township board with attorney Thal's guidance should be 809 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:30,080 looking at this. >> Okay. [cough and clears throat] 810 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:35,359 » I got a frog in my throat, so excuse me. Ryan came to the planning commission 811 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:40,080 meeting and he shared the information and uh we had shared back that the 812 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,000 recommendation would be for him to come in front of the board. He's now come 813 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:49,759 back twice in front of the board and he has shared his information. I think Mr. 814 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:54,320 more pretty much described what the way I remember it too because you know I was 815 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:59,280 with the PC and we brought forth I thought a very robust plan and at that 816 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:04,480 point and I don't think it was this board I thought it was the prior board 817 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,560 that >> you know which is only one person 818 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,440 different >> well it's not yes you're correct it's 819 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:16,239 not this board but I think the only people that weren't on it at the time 820 01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:20,923 would have been Todd and and then two other people. 821 01:10:18,903 --> 01:10:20,923 [clears throat] 822 01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,360 » Excuse me. >> I don't know if I was still on the PC at 823 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,560 the time or if I was >> Yeah. 824 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:33,360 » But it doesn't matter. >> So, but but but the idea of having 825 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:36,960 options for uh you know, our citizens, there's a lot of differences determining 826 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,800 on, you know, if they live on the lake, if they live on a road that has, you 827 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:44,000 know, thousand square feet or I don't know, 15, I'm making up numbers or 16 828 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:49,679 acres, you know, that makes a difference. And so, uh, Christina has 829 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:55,760 put this on the agenda and I think it's to, uh, determine if a board member has 830 01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:59,440 a different opinion at this point because if they have a different opinion 831 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:03,520 that yes, maybe we can because I think at the time there was a solar 832 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:10,400 arrangement that went in the ground that became a uh, you know, very vocal 833 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:14,880 negative point. Okay. And I I can't remember where that was, but I think 834 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,719 that's kind of I felt like it it helped the board decide what they decided. 835 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,679 » It was a front yard. >> It was a front yard placement and 836 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:29,760 » Right. But I think the uh the planning commission if they were given direction 837 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:35,280 from the board to reestablish or review the zoning ordinance in its current form 838 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:39,520 and taking into consideration other things that you know we've covered 839 01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:44,560 recently like in terms of viewshed and screening and you know we've done that 840 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:49,679 with a number of uh different projects that my opinion would be we could build 841 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:56,640 a very robust change in the zoning ordinance and give options and not put 842 01:11:54,239 --> 01:12:00,400 uh how do you want to say anybody out that might be a neighbor, you know, 843 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:04,719 those kind of things. So, so I think like I say, Michael, I'm I'm I'm happy 844 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:10,000 he came up and said what he did because it is the way I remembered it and um so 845 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:15,520 there's two of us that say that yeah, we think we had that in the original 846 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:19,760 ordinance. So we also understand of course that the board can accept or not 847 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:25,520 accept what the planning commission recommends when they look at it. In this 848 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:31,840 case that board did it. So the question today is will anyone change their mind 849 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:36,159 because if there are six of us here today and you know if somebody makes a 850 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,880 motion to have you know bring it back to the PC to you know try and zero in on 851 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:44,640 different zoning ordinance changes that might allow ground 852 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,560 uh you know, under certain circumstances, ground ground solar under 853 01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:53,199 certain circumstances, you'd have to pass four to two because a 3 to3 vote 854 01:12:51,120 --> 01:13:00,159 wouldn't allow, right? And we only have six members here. And one of the members 855 01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:04,400 that didn't vote is not here. Uh that's not going to vote is not here. And uh 856 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:08,320 she wasn't here to begin with. So she's not going to be asked to change her 857 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:13,440 mind, you know, or not not asked to change her mind, but to determine if 858 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:17,679 because again, end of the story, we could come in as a planning commission, 859 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,320 work on that, bring it to the board, and at that time the board could deny it 860 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,120 again. >> Yeah. 861 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:26,960 » Right. It could. So, so I don't see a lot of risk other than the fact that it 862 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:31,199 would be something that we're going to be discussing and working on when we 863 01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:34,480 have a moratorum on data centers. you know, we have we only we're down to our 864 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:38,159 last 10 months on that and we haven't even had a meeting because there's 865 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:42,480 nothing coming. We we canceled two meetings in a row on the planning 866 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:46,880 commission side. So, so [clears throat] that's that would be 867 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:50,640 my spiel on it. Uh >> I I would just add because I I was on 868 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:55,440 the board at that time and in full disclosure, I mean I have solar panels 869 01:13:52,239 --> 01:14:00,159 on my house. Uh was fortunate to have a full southern exposure roof line. Um I 870 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:05,600 think at the time part of that conversation and there there was some 871 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:11,520 awareness of the what had already gone in and a front and then also not not 872 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:16,800 solar but some other viewshed challenges that were happening and the conversation 873 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:22,159 was you know let's let's take it out now we've only had the one request that we 874 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:26,400 know of and down the road if suddenly things are changing we can do just what 875 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:30,640 you're asking to send it back and I think there's a there is a sense 876 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:36,159 sensitivity to, you know, maintaining the the rural residential aspect of it. 877 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:40,080 And so, how can we do it so we're not out on the lake and people are floating 878 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:45,679 solar panels, you know, off their docks and and I know it sounds, oh, you know, 879 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:50,719 it's crazy. Nobody do that. Crazy things happen. So, I think it would be really 880 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:56,400 taking a look at the, you know, what what the the zoning area is, the type of 881 01:14:53,520 --> 01:15:01,280 housing, the proximity, how much, you know, how much land there is, uh, you 882 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:06,880 know, versus, you know, you're out in the out in the middle of nowhere, and so 883 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:10,640 nobody's going to see it and look at it, have a glaring in their windows. 884 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:15,600 » I agree with that. I mean, I think that there's each circumstance is probably a 885 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:20,880 little bit different from, you know, and and I I do remember whether or not I was 886 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:25,840 on the board. I can't remember, but I do remember the conversation about there 887 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:30,239 being a particular panel that ended up being a little bit of a a eyesore, I 888 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:38,239 guess. I don't know what else you want to call it, but um uh I think each 889 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:46,159 situation is different and deserves to have a you know look at. So Rob is our 890 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:52,400 um because we I mean yes we could strike it but we can't put it in. Uh is the do 891 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,520 we have two options here? One is to go ahead and ask the PC to take a look at 892 01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:03,280 it. The other option is to send it to the ZBA and are they 893 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:07,600 » really your two options are either just say we're fine with what we have or send 894 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:15,120 it back. The other option is to send it back to the PC and let them look at the 895 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:19,280 matter uh develop uh some language that the PC is comfortable with. They'd have 896 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,760 a public hearing on it. After the public hearing, they'd send the language to the 897 01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:28,560 township board for your consideration. For adoption, you would determine 898 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:32,560 whether or not it's in a form that you approve of. You can either amend it at 899 01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:36,320 the township board level or send it back to the planning commission if you're not 900 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,840 happy with it. So, it's really whether or not you want 901 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,440 to send it back to the planning commission, give them a shot to look at 902 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:46,880 it again. the planning commission, I think, was just trying to avoid spinning 903 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,000 its wheels, working on something, spending some time on something that the 904 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,840 board has no interest in. So, it's really, you know, is the board willing 905 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:59,520 to look at uh some different language on that? 906 01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:05,760 » So, the the uh solar ordinance was created in 2022. It's the Ross Township 907 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:11,199 Ordinance number 228. And as I recall, it went in and it was 908 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:17,199 shocking because we didn't have any ordinance really regulating that sort of 909 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:21,280 installation in the front yard. And so I believe this board 910 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:26,159 responded to that in a very conservative manner. And that's probably what the 911 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:29,840 outcome was with the ordinance. But I believe we're all very common sense 912 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:35,280 people and I think we all recognize that times change and I would like to make a 913 01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:39,280 motion that we resurrect it and send it back to planning commission and have 914 01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:44,000 them provide some thoughtful recommendations on how we can make it 915 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:49,280 work for individuals that want to be self-sufficient on their own little grid 916 01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:52,560 without it harming individuals to their left and right. 917 01:17:54,239 --> 01:18:02,400 So, we have a motion to send the uh ordinance 228 back to the planning 918 01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:07,199 commission, have them develop some thoughtful guidelines and 919 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:10,560 recommendations for the uh amendment to the ordinance for the Ross Township 920 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:16,560 Board to consider for solar. >> So, Rob, a question. If she only motions 921 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:21,760 on ordinance 228 and it impacts other ordinances, is that restrictive then or 922 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:26,480 can it >> Yeah, I think it should really just be 923 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:31,600 to review solar for residential purposes and that gives the board, you know, the 924 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:36,800 the planning commission will look at whatever under the ordinance they need 925 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:40,960 to look at. So, I will amend my motion to give planning commission the 926 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:45,440 authority to look at all solar in our township and provide residential 927 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,840 purposes recommendations to the Ross Township board. 928 01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:01,360 » We have a motion and support. Is there any further discussion? 929 01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:07,920 » Are we opening ourselves up to anything like mass solar by doing this? No, we we 930 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:13,280 would it'd be restricted uh to looking at residential. So you can uh you can 931 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:20,640 regulate things based upon you know whether it's residential or uh you know 932 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:27,360 on-site utility production you know or off-site uh energy production but uh 933 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:31,520 residential can be treated separately than kind of the commercial largecale 934 01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:35,679 type of uses that we're looking at. Plus, the residential can address, you 935 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,640 know, how much uh lot area could be covered by solar. There's a lot of 936 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,719 different things that planning commission could look at, but you know, 937 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:46,480 those would be certain things that um they'd be looking at what kind of 938 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:53,239 protections they could implement to allow it, but at the same time, uh 939 01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,239 protections regarding it. 940 01:19:53,760 --> 01:20:02,000 » So, the key word is residential. >> Thank you. We're going to review this 941 01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:06,000 solar for residential purposes. The planning commission 942 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:09,600 » motion and support. Any further discussion? 943 01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:14,760 All those in favor? I >> opposed. 944 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,760 » None. Motion carries. 945 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,440 » Thank you, Ryan, for uh bringing that to our attention at three different 946 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,400 meetings. >> Thank you. 947 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,760 » Appreciate it. >> Thank you for your [clears throat] 948 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,840 patience. >> My pleasure. 949 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,560 » It makes me crazy because government used to work really slow and now I'm a 950 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:30,800 part of it and it makes me crazy for you. I'm sorry. 951 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:34,640 » Former Marine retired. I get it. >> You get it. Thank you, sir. Thank you 952 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,920 for your service. Moving next into the shared services 953 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,440 exploratory agreement with Richland Township. This is one one of the things 954 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:45,199 that I really love about my job as supervisor is being able to collaborate 955 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:49,520 with other townships. And as we all know that we've done a lot 956 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:56,159 of collaboration with Richland Township and the thought of economy of scale and 957 01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,000 being able to pull together resources. Uh that conversation started over at 958 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:06,159 Richland Township. And so this product that I have here was actually created by 959 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:12,159 Richland Township and I was asked to get it before my board so my board, our 960 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:16,080 board can look at it and kick around the idea of some shared services. Um, I do 961 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:20,159 know that they've got a beautiful Richland Park. They've got a zeroturn 962 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:24,080 radius mower. They've got a lot of the things that would benefit Ross Township. 963 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:30,560 We've got some things that might benefit Richland Township. And so, what we're 964 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:34,400 looking for is just to create a dialogue uh internally. They've actually got 965 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:39,520 three trustees that are interested in in chatting about this opportunity. And so, 966 01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:44,719 uh, the opportunity before us is to line up a number of trustees to move forward 967 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:48,880 and have conversations about, um, mutual resources and sharing of those resources 968 01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:55,199 between Richland and Ross Township, having one person, um, handle mowing, 969 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:59,600 um, handle maintenance, handle uh, caretaking responsibilities. You know, 970 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:04,960 they are paying out of pocket. We're paying out of pocket. And so, uh, why 971 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:09,520 not combine our two townships together and take a look at one position? And so, 972 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:13,199 that's the ask from Richland Township and I put it on the table for 973 01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:17,040 individuals to talk that through. >> But according to the document, the ask 974 01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:19,520 is to just identify [clears throat] the fact that we have interest and keep 975 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,719 talking about it. Correct. >> Correct. Yep. So, it' be like an 976 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:29,520 exploratory committee >> going in with park and cemetery only at 977 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:33,040 this point. park, cemetery, and um yeah, I said maintenance, but yes, right now 978 01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:35,199 uh park and cemetery. >> Yeah, and they might require 979 01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:38,960 maintenance, but yeah, >> I mean, we all do, but yeah, 980 01:22:37,097 --> 01:22:44,159 [clears throat and cough] >> I like this idea. 981 01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:47,360 » I I I really do. I I like I like >> because we probably have the same 982 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:50,880 vendors right now, right? We actually do. Yeah, we [clears throat] do. 983 01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:56,960 » I mean, I I really like looking into this and seeing if it's something that 984 01:22:52,560 --> 01:23:01,840 we could help each other out on. I I it would you mean all we're going to do 985 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:08,159 is look and investigate and talk about what what we might be able to mutually 986 01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:12,560 help each other do. So >> yeah, I think it's a conceptually a good 987 01:23:10,639 --> 01:23:16,800 idea and there's nothing wrong with talking having conversations. Rob, at 988 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:21,679 the end of the day, if if this is something we said, hey, we we think 989 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:27,920 combined we can, you know, either maintain our costs with higher quality 990 01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:32,719 uh results or even reduce our costs. If you have a person like a, you know, 991 01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:38,080 director of the parks, does that can that person be paid jointly from both or 992 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:43,040 is it have to be one township's paying it because of the benefits that go with 993 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:48,960 it and the other township is basically paying a contractual fee. So, you would 994 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:53,120 do an interlocal agreement uh to share services, but normally it's going to be 995 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:57,840 like if there's employees, they're normally going to be on one books or the 996 01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:02,960 other's books, you know, and then they you share in the cost of that, but um 997 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:07,760 that's the typical way that it would be done. 998 01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:11,080 » Yeah, that's down the road. So that that's a good idea 999 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:20,639 based on based on the amount of time you know I would uh I would be willing to 1000 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,679 help. >> Good discussions 1001 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,360 » probably wouldn't be well >> even monthly. 1002 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,440 » Are you signing up? You're saying we you're in 1003 01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:33,600 » I'll work on it. >> All right. Good. So what I what Bear and 1004 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,960 I talked about doing was just gauging interest. I Bear said he's got three 1005 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:41,840 trustees. So, I'd like to match it with three trustees. Um, so who else would 1006 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:45,760 like to get on board? So, then what what we can do is set up who wants to talk, 1007 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,880 exchange email addresses, and just kind of let you guys go. 1008 01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:52,920 » I can help. >> Who's the third? Mary. 1009 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:59,520 » So, we have Lynn, Diana, and Mary are interested in having conversations about 1010 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:03,000 the shared services arrangement with Richland Township. 1011 01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:10,400 » Sounds good. So, we don't need a motion on this, do we? Um, 1012 01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:15,840 » you could make a motion to formalize it. I would 1013 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:21,360 » Okay. So, I'm making a motion that um Ross Township is interested in 1014 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:26,400 pursuing this further and trustee Harmon, Trustee 1015 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:30,480 Langshaw, and Clerk Stage are going to be the point persons for Russ Township 1016 01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:35,120 to take this further with Richland Township. Is that good? 1017 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:43,840 I'll second. So we have a motion in support to continue to explore the 1018 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:50,320 shared services arrangement with Richland Township and trustees Harmon 1019 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:54,239 Langshaw and clerk stage will be our representation from Ross Township. Is 1020 01:25:52,080 --> 01:26:00,000 there any further discussion? All those in favor? I I opposed. 1021 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:03,960 » Motion carries. Thank you for signing up. This is exciting. 1022 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:09,920 moving into Okay, so the last month's meeting I had to table a couple things 1023 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:15,120 because we needed to get to Richland Township. Um the quotation for the 1024 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:18,120 digital sign out front is at least $14,000. 1025 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:28,080 I I can tell you that individuals are not happy with that. Um they people 1026 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:32,480 don't like the way it's positioned. Um, >> so it be the same location. 1027 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:36,360 » I mean, do we really need it? We've got a website. It's interactive. 1028 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:41,600 » I appreciate that question because I didn't know how to come in and say I 1029 01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:44,639 don't think we need it. >> I don't think we need it either. That 1030 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:50,719 thing is I have to un I have to throw the breaker every time it rains outside. 1031 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:59,440 It's just It's ridiculous. I mean, could something be done to to remove the 1032 01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:03,280 signage piece of it and so it's still >> I mean, is it just the sign on? 1033 01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:06,719 » Well, it's got the creeper on it, the automated piece on it, but maybe we 1034 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,000 could put up our logo shields, which would be Ross Township, Police 1035 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,600 Department, Fire Department. I don't know. But I agree. I mean, I don't see 1036 01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:17,840 the value. I don't. 1037 01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:25,199 » And for 14,000, if there's something special, go have a a sign made that, you 1038 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:27,600 know, you hang like we do for change the batteries. I mean, 1039 01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:31,360 » well, I mean, we have an interactive website. When that was purchased and 1040 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:35,760 created, we didn't have a push feature, and we have that now, which is actually 1041 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:38,080 more interactive than the creeper that used to get. So, 1042 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:41,600 » maybe that would be a permanent signing put on top. Here's how you sign up for 1043 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:46,880 the website and get push emails. >> There you go. It's It's painted sign you 1044 01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:49,280 just throw over the monitor >> or not. 1045 01:27:48,239 --> 01:27:56,400 » Yeah, it's >> So, I make a motion that we decline the 1046 01:27:51,600 --> 01:28:00,560 the $14,000 M89 digital sign and we will uh TBD something different on that brick 1047 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:06,560 storefront out front. >> Yeah. I just see what we can do so it 1048 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:14,280 still indicates Ross Township but it doesn't look crappy. 1049 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:14,280 » I'll second. Any further discussion? 1050 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:22,719 All those in favor? I I opposed. None. Motion carries. Thank you. 1051 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:26,639 » It's really too bad. It's up here so far into the close to the building because a 1052 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,400 lot of times people haven't got a chance to look at it, especially now with 1053 01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:32,880 having to watch traffic from across the street come out. 1054 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,159 » That's always been the complaint is why did you put it that way? Why isn't it 1055 01:28:34,639 --> 01:28:39,280 faced the other way so you could read it when you go? 1056 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,440 » It needed to be down closer. Yeah, >> this is a long way up. 1057 01:28:40,159 --> 01:28:46,560 » Well, we don't have to deal with complaints anymore, so that's okay. 1058 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:51,760 » So, we've talked about office machines. Um, mine got replaced because of the 1059 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:57,520 lightning strike, and we um we've been kind of picking away at replacing 1060 01:28:54,480 --> 01:29:02,880 um machines for each workstation. And uh Infosafe gave us a quote. We kind of 1061 01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:09,760 missed the first quote because they had a bunch of refurbished ones and they 1062 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:14,639 were able to um tell us what the cost was going to be and now the cost is 1063 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:18,639 exponentially less because I mean exponentially more because those 1064 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:22,159 machines were sold. So, I think probably the most cost-effective way to do it is 1065 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:28,880 figure out a budget and how we can begin to replace monitor or replace the hard 1066 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:36,400 drives for each uh workstation because they've not been replaced since I think 1067 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:42,719 you guys had a major server malfunction under 1068 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:48,080 I thought we bought I thought since 2018 we've put new I mean that's that is 1069 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:51,040 eight years and they don't usually last that long, but I'm not arguing they 1070 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:58,960 don't need to be replaced, but I I thought we replaced all the uh computers 1071 01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:02,880 since 2018. >> I wasn't here. 1072 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,760 » Yeah, I think it was under Rob, but that's my memory. 1073 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:14,239 » Just to add to that, Amanda and I have talked. It'd be nice to have a laptop 1074 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:18,480 for the office where some residents come in and they want to pay their taxes and 1075 01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:22,480 then Amanda has to grab their credit card, go to her office, put it into the 1076 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:26,880 thing. It would just be nice to have a laptop that we could bring up to the 1077 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:32,560 front and the people could just do it themselves and then also we could use 1078 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:39,600 that laptop for budget purposes. Then Lynn doesn't have to bring her laptop in 1079 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:45,360 anymore. Um it's it would just it'd be a wise decision for the the township to 1080 01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:50,560 automate a little bit in that direction. So not only our station computers I 1081 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:59,679 think we should look at but we might want to look at a laptop for um the the 1082 01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:06,560 township itself and also look at two new town two new 1083 01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:10,480 laptops for elections. Um, I I I did stick a little bit of money, extra money 1084 01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:15,360 in my budget because I knew we were getting going to have to have new 1085 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:22,239 tabulators and I think I could cover it with that budget, but because we had a 1086 01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:28,159 issue at the election at one of our precincts that the computer was 1087 01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:32,480 rejecting the e- pole book and luckily we got it up and running and everything 1088 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:36,159 went quite smoothly, but that's something we don't want to have happen 1089 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:42,560 on election day. >> So my in my prior career when I was in 1090 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:48,639 sales, I I had a laptop and that was my workstation. It it it plugged in on a a 1091 01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:53,199 ledge and then I had my monitor and then I had a keyboard and then when I had to 1092 01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:57,199 get on a plane, my laptop went with me. I attend a lot of meetings where 1093 01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:01,199 electeds have a laptop. I mean, and I I don't. It would be nice if I could have 1094 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:04,639 a laptop. Um, as we all know, I don't check my email on my personal phone and 1095 01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:10,560 I don't check email on the weekend because I don't use my personal stuff. 1096 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:14,480 Um, but it would be nice if each elected had their own laptop. She could attend 1097 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:18,719 her meetings and have her laptop. I could have one. Amanda could have one 1098 01:32:16,639 --> 01:32:23,600 for exactly what Mary's talking about and then have deputies and Mary Carol 1099 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:26,880 have the standard workstations. So, I throw that out there. It would be nice 1100 01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:29,760 if we could do what other townships are doing because they are bringing the 1101 01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:33,808 their laptops to meetings and they're able to take notes and um be a little 1102 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,480 bit more automated. So, I just [clears throat] bring that out because 1103 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,800 that's what Mary was talking about. She would like to have two. 1104 01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:44,400 » So, I can keep up with you. >> Yeah. 1105 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:50,719 » We have currently $5,000 on a budget to repair five. Are you trying to say that 1106 01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:55,120 if we buy laptops for these different people, we'd only have to repair two? 1107 01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:58,159 Or >> it would be it would be three because we 1108 01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,400 already have the keyboard. So it would be three. 1109 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:09,520 » She takes hers with her. Yeah, she takes hers. Yeah, she she's all set. Yeah, 1110 01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:12,800 because she works for many different townships. 1111 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:18,719 » Well, I don't want to put you on the spot, but I know you do a lot of the 1112 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:23,840 budget amendment type things. Is Is there where we currently are in our 1113 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:25,360 fiscal year? Do you feel we have >> Yeah. 1114 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:31,120 » dollars to do this? >> I u you know I I almost printed the 1115 01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:34,400 budget to come in with um I there's some equipment under each 1116 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:37,920 category and a lot of times the end of the year 1117 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:43,040 we've you know zeroed it out or taken it down to you know 200. So I I think so I 1118 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:49,440 guess what I would suggest is that we get a updated 1119 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:54,960 uh proposal on what's needed and is it something that you know do you want to 1120 01:33:51,440 --> 01:34:02,960 do we do we go to everything all at once or is it is there a priority and so we 1121 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:08,880 do you know we're going to do this in you know this fiscal year and we spread 1122 01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:14,239 it out over three years so it ends up I mean, three years tends to be in in 1123 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:17,679 business. That's about what they budget you to have your your um computers 1124 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,560 replaced, but you don't replace them till they need them. Um, so I mean, that 1125 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:27,440 would be, you know, take a look at what's what's needed. And I'm not saying 1126 01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:31,600 we can go three years based on the age of them, but if it's let's just come 1127 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:36,480 back with a proposal. We can then double check the budget, see what we've got in 1128 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:42,159 there. And uh >> I note that Amanda reported another 1129 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:46,639 $11,000 in interest earned last month. And 1130 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:50,960 you know, I mean, that's that's a great result, you know, which means that maybe 1131 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:56,320 there's somewhere to do that. But I I think in today's day and age, having the 1132 01:34:53,520 --> 01:35:01,760 right equipment is definitely the right thing to do. Uh so for your proposal 1133 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:05,760 then if they can come back with what is it they want that they talked about how 1134 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:10,000 many we would need to repair in the office we would have a number and then 1135 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:12,480 at that point in the September meeting we would just decide. 1136 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,600 » Yes. >> And that would give you a couple of 1137 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,880 weeks to just take a look at where we are with the equipment because you know 1138 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:22,400 we can we got to be >> Yep. 1139 01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:25,920 » But what I'm going to do is I'm since I know mine's new because mine got struck 1140 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:30,639 by lightning. Mine would obviously maybe slide over to one of the deputies or to 1141 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:35,600 Mary Carol. I will have Jason inventory what we have to answer your question of 1142 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:37,920 what was replaced in the year 2018. Yep. >> So, we'll start there and then we'll 1143 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:43,600 work backwards with a new one. >> Keep in mind when you're doing a laptop 1144 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:45,600 u and I think you want you there's a docking station that needs to come with 1145 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,440 it >> for the peripherals to attach. um you 1146 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:54,719 know look at I think most people have the dual screens so you know make sure 1147 01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:57,920 all everything's taken into account because even with the laptop you're I 1148 01:35:56,639 --> 01:36:02,320 think you like you said you still have the keyboard and mouse separate from 1149 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:07,400 because the laptop for the most part just is closed and 1150 01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:12,000 » sounds like a good plan to me I don't think you need a motion on that right 1151 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,400 that's just >> no I just need to go back to the drawing 1152 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:20,000 board on that >> is infosafe the only outlet for 1153 01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:26,480 They're not the only. They are our current outlet. Um they get uh deals for 1154 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:30,880 us and they also are our offsite storage provider for all of our records 1155 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:37,040 management. So Infosafe does two things for us. They do all of our help desk 1156 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:42,239 ticketing, all of our IT stuff. Um they help Martin with Martin left. They help 1157 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:47,040 Martin with all of Martin's security protocol with M Cole's state of Michigan 1158 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:50,960 and dispatch and all the security with police car as well as all of our records 1159 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:56,239 management. >> If you bought a PC, I'm assuming you 1160 01:36:53,520 --> 01:37:01,199 need a whole PC that you couldn't just buy it through Dell or Apple or whatever 1161 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:04,560 and they could, >> you know, configure that to the way it 1162 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:08,880 needs to be or >> I could ask not an option. I could ask, 1163 01:37:06,719 --> 01:37:14,320 but they generally get discounts because they go direct and so they get I don't 1164 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:17,520 want to say deals because deals makes you think it's like wheeling and dealing 1165 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:21,360 and it's cheap. It's not because that they're because they're licensed IT 1166 01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:25,360 providers. They have access to get stuff shipped in. 1167 01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:29,600 » And then could you contact them? You said before, well now it's sign 1168 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:33,760 significantly more. could you contact them and say, "Hey, if you get any more 1169 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:37,679 refurbs in, contact us and oh, there's one, we'll take the one or and then 1170 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,960 three months down the road there's another one or something like that." 1171 01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,520 » Yeah, that's what I think. If I tee it up to them, but I would need the board 1172 01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:46,719 to give me permission to have that conversation. But if I tee it up in that 1173 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:52,800 way, we could absolutely make it happen that way. 1174 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:55,520 So, I will bring back another quote >> in September. 1175 01:37:54,239 --> 01:37:59,920 » That's all we ask. So, you can do anything you want to get to that quote. 1176 01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:59,920 And 1177 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:08,679 Perfect. Any other discussion? Good questions. 1178 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:15,199 » Okay, we're moving into second citizen comment. 1179 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:20,000 It's 7:30. Hang on. Don't talk yet. 1180 01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:24,239 This is the speed round. One minute. >> Yep. Hey, I'm Tom Boyd. Thank you for 1181 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,840 creating the Sherman Lake water quality liaison role. I think it's going to be 1182 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:30,960 critical moving forward. As you know, I have a family history of more than 100 1183 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:34,639 years on the lake. I used to mow lawns on the lake as a kid. I had a paper 1184 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:38,400 route. I did a scout water project when I was 14 that involved water quality on 1185 01:38:36,639 --> 01:38:43,119 Sherman Lake and looking at oxygen levels and algae levels and water 1186 01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:48,480 clarity in the lake. Um, I've lived overseas. I was a VP of HR for Craft for 1187 01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:52,960 more than 100 countries and 100,000 employees and I've experienced in 1188 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:58,000 negotiations, arbitrations, dispute resolution, legal proceedings, and 1189 01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:02,000 strategic planning. I chose to return to Sherman Lake because I love this area 1190 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:07,440 and I love the people. I've been involved in volunteer activities as a 1191 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:11,040 member of the SLR for years. I'm a a volunteer steward of the public access. 1192 01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:14,560 I mowed it for two years during COVID when they didn't have the funds to do 1193 01:39:12,719 --> 01:39:18,880 that and I would be honored to be considered as a member of the advisory 1194 01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:22,560 council or the advisory group. Trusty Beaks, thank you. and to everyone else, 1195 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,520 I got a standing offer to any and all members of you to come to our house, go 1196 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,760 on a pontoon boat ride, and see what we're actually talking about on Sherman 1197 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,840 Lake. >> Thank you. 1198 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:33,480 » And understand what's been done. Thank you. 1199 01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:33,480 » Thank you, 1200 01:39:38,908 --> 01:39:44,000 [clears throat] >> Nancy Boyd, BYD. Three quick things. 1201 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:48,480 First of all, thank you, Michael, for creating this um panel, and thank you 1202 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:51,440 everyone else for approving it. Um, number two, I think that you might want 1203 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:56,080 to consider two additional people to interview. They would be our two P past 1204 01:39:53,600 --> 01:40:01,360 presidents of the SLRA who have a lot of experience, and that would be Roger 1205 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:05,679 Schwitzer and Pam Mosley. Um, and third, I would just like to um assure you that 1206 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:09,520 we have been fiscally responsible. I have all the information that you need. 1207 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:15,920 We share our budget every single year at our um annual meeting and um I work with 1208 01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:18,719 Mary and Amanda and Christina and we've got everything that you're going to 1209 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,560 need. So, it should be expedited. Thank you. 1210 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:23,760 » Thank you, Nancy. >> That second name, I couldn't write that 1211 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:26,239 fast. Roger Schwitzer. And who? >> And Pam Mosley. 1212 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,159 » Pam Mosley. Okay. >> She's right here. 1213 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:34,000 » Hi, Pam. >> Pam Mosley. 1214 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:38,480 » Pam Mosley. Spelled M O S E L E Y. Um, thank you for all that you've done to 1215 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:44,719 prepare for this. Um, and I don't mean to insult any intelligence, but um I 1216 01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:50,880 think a very good resource to be um on the the panel or on the committee would 1217 01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:55,199 be somebody from possibly uh the Gull Lake or actually the re the 1218 01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:58,800 um lake quality organization. 1219 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:03,760 » Yeah. Or the biological station. Somebody someone who has the um 1220 01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:07,520 expertise in water quality. Um, I think there's a lot there's something that we 1221 01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:11,280 a resource we can tap into. I'm not up to date um currently with who the 1222 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:16,080 professors are there, what their studies are at this time, but there used to be 1223 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:21,199 great uh uh water resource people there and we have a a wealth of information in 1224 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:27,440 our communities. So, um if you I can help if you have any questions to help. 1225 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:30,440 » Thank you, Pam. Next, 1226 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:41,360 » Roger Schwitzer. S Wii T Zer. It's my time up. 1227 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:43,679 » Nope. I don't start it, so I have to say your name. 1228 01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:51,880 » I'll keep it real short. I just want to confirm that uh I'd be honored to be on 1229 01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:51,880 the uh on the board on your group. 1230 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,400 » Thank you, Roger. 1231 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:08,400 Tom Sad, I just want to thank Mike and the board for uh tonight's uh for the 1232 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:12,560 all the work that you put into this. I just want to mention I'd also be honored 1233 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:15,280 to be on the on the committee. Uh the other thing I wanted to say is that 1234 01:42:13,679 --> 01:42:20,400 there seems to be some questions about how informed we keep the residents. We 1235 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:25,440 do try our best to keep them as informed as possible. There's an annual meeting 1236 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:30,239 that we've had every year and it brings together the resident not just for a 1237 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:35,440 social event but also to educate them on what's been done and we have our 1238 01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:39,920 limnologist uh give her annual report at those meetings usually and that report 1239 01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:42,719 is available for people who don't attend uh some of the people who are 1240 01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:46,239 complaining about what we do have never attended one of those any one of those 1241 01:42:44,719 --> 01:42:50,239 meetings and one of them has lived on a lake for I think nine years has not 1242 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:55,119 attended a single one of those meetings all our SR board meetings are well 1243 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:59,920 documented. We do minutes. Those minutes are readily available to anybody that 1244 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:03,159 wants to review them. Thank you. >> Thank you. 1245 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:12,880 » Just wanted to submit these uh these were my comments from earlier. 1246 01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:16,719 » Very good. Thank you, Ryan, for your diligence. Thank you. 1247 01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:21,520 Also, one other thing. Um, so I did spend my 20 plus years in the Marine 1248 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:27,040 Corps doing IT communication stuff. So, >> I'm happy to volunteer to provide any uh 1249 01:43:24,719 --> 01:43:31,199 guidance you may have or would like on on your IT situation. So, 1250 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,280 » more than welcome to give me a call. I'll run down here and we can I'll talk 1251 01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:36,239 with you guys. >> We like to recruit people to come help. 1252 01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:40,119 Thank you. >> Perfect. 1253 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,119 » Thank you. 1254 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,936 Next. [clears throat] 1255 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:50,560 » I I'll real quick here. >> Do I need to say my name? 1256 01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:53,840 » No, we know who you are and I'm not timing. 1257 01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:56,000 » In regard in regards to your purchases of the computers? 1258 01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:02,639 » Yes. >> I believe the township is in the myby 1259 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:05,920 program. So supposedly with the myby, you get them at 1260 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,840 » cost >> at cost. So we don't pay it. I mean, so 1261 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:13,600 at any rate, we should be looking into that. So, uh, I'm pretty sure we are we 1262 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:15,280 are participating in that. I'm pretty sure that Martin has got some of that. 1263 01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:19,119 » We are. >> So, but at any rate, this is something 1264 01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:22,400 to look into because that's can create quite a bit of a a discount on pricing. 1265 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:26,400 So, >> thanks, Chief. 1266 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:29,400 » And I'm all about saving money. >> Oh, 1267 01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:34,520 we appreciate that about you a whole lot. 1268 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:41,199 » Trusty updates. Trusty Harmon, you go first. 1269 01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:45,679 Uh, I think I'm good. >> Park stage. 1270 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:51,840 » Um, the election went very well. I was home by 11:30. I was pretty happy about 1271 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:58,880 that after being up at uh 4:30 in the morning. Um, and Ken did a great job 1272 01:44:55,360 --> 01:45:03,920 helping. So, it was wonderful. Um, I just wanted to say to the residents as 1273 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:07,199 well as the board, I've gone through the Gull Lake Quality Organization. 1274 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:10,560 » Wow. like sewer and water. >> Yep. Golly, sewer and water. Thank you. 1275 01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:17,440 » Yikes. >> Sorry. A packet. And I have, as you can 1276 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:21,199 see, have seen some things that have been outstanding to me. So, if anyone 1277 01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:28,159 would like to come and discuss this with me, my door is always open. 1278 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:32,080 Thank you, Mary. My only update is um we have a new deputy treasurer. If Amanda 1279 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:36,400 was here, she would introduce her. Her name is Sheridan Leatherman. She has 1280 01:45:34,159 --> 01:45:40,480 been working in our office and working and she's 1281 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:45,520 mastered a lot in a very short amount of time. So when you call the township and 1282 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:49,280 she answers, tell her hello. But Sheridan I know is listening tonight. So 1283 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:52,280 Sheridan, welcome to Ross Township officially. 1284 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:58,320 » Trusty Langshaw has nothing. Trusty Beaks, 1285 01:45:55,679 --> 01:46:01,440 » I want to share that I believe uh two meetings in a row have been cancelled 1286 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:08,800 due to nobody needing to come in front of the both the ZBA and the uh PC. But 1287 01:46:06,239 --> 01:46:14,239 even if nobody comes in front of the PC, I think we should meet. I'll talk with 1288 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:20,159 Chair Sager because we have >> discussions that we have to start. uh we 1289 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:25,199 can't not do those and potentially, you know, we can share the news on the solar 1290 01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:30,480 so that we can start digging out some old some old things to look at and uh be 1291 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:38,880 ready to >> Thank you, Trusty White. 1292 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:42,400 » We have exhausted our agenda. We are >> that we adjourn the meeting. 1293 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:48,800 » Thank [laughter] Motion and support to adjurnn. All in 1294 01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:48,800 favor? I we are adjourned.