[8:04] Chambers for invocation. If you're able, if you can stand, we can be do our [8:09] pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [8:15] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation [8:21] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [8:26] » Thank you. [8:33] » At this time, I'll call to order our Rober City Council meeting. [8:41] agenda. Can I get a a motion for our agenda adoption? [8:48] » Even though Miss Johnson is not on the agenda tonight, I will move for [8:53] approval. It's unusual not to see Lauren Johnson's name on here. So, [8:56] » there are items on the consent agenda. >> Oh, yeah. There you go. [9:01] I'll move for approval. Second motion. Make sure your mic's on. Motion [9:07] been moved by Councilman Chandler, second by Mayor Prom Outlaw. All in [9:11] favor say I. >> I. [9:13] » Those opposed. >> The eyes have it. The motion is carried. [9:18] We're down to our consent agenda. [9:25] Chief torain, is any issue coming up with the ISO inspection later this year? [9:50] Yeah. [10:06] How about the tower? [10:26] We didn't work on it for a couple weeks out. [10:53] Chief Hes or maybe I should ask Mr. Ford this question. I don't know the the new [10:57] motorized bike law. Do you see any adverse effects for us here on that? [11:06] Councilman Chandler, as previous discussed, we are seeing an increase in [11:09] it in the city. I think once the law goes into effect, we work with [11:17] public information. [11:24] I appreciated that little picture or diagram that showed ebike, moped, and e- [11:32] motorc. I didn't know there was e motorcycles. [11:39] I guess I was just concerned. [11:48] » You shouldn't be riding on the sidewalk. >> Not even bicycles. If you're in the [11:53] street, I just have ridges. [12:13] » Thank you. [12:16] » So, we're still having the rag issue. [12:26] You might want to explain that, Mr. Phillips. [12:28] » It doesn't matter. [12:35] » We have an industry in town that keeps denying that they are responsible for [12:43] rags being in our sewer system, wastewater system. As it says here, um, [12:53] ongoing rag accumulation in the RA, which is [12:56] » return active sludge >> and W, which is [13:02] » okay. Pumps. So, requiring staff to pull all four [13:08] pumps and two pumps approximately every other day to remove accumulated rags and [13:14] prevent the pump from overheating. So, that's what we're having to deal with. [13:18] out there. Our folks are having to take their time to [13:25] pull stuff out. >> And we're not accusing them of all of [13:29] them. >> That's correct. [13:36] » More than they should. >> I'd like to add feminine hygiene [13:41] products and flushable wipes. They're not actually flushable, folks. Please [13:45] don't flush those. And please don't pour grease down your [13:49] drain either. It's not good. [13:59] » What's the water? Are we pumping water? >> Not actively. [14:11] We are down to 17 at city. [14:18] » You turn them on at 24. [14:24] » Unless we get something not going to be too far in the future. [14:33] » July 31st. [14:42] Y'all pray for rain. Make sure you do that as well. [14:49] » We need some rain. [14:53] » Sure. [14:56] » All right, that'd be good. [15:01] Any more comments? [15:07] Hearing none. Can I get a motion for our consent agenda? [15:12] » May I make a motion to approve the consent agenda? [15:15] » Second. >> Motion by Mayor Pro Tim outlaw and [15:20] second by council member of Congress. Senator general been approved. All in [15:24] favor say I. I. >> Those opposed. [15:28] The eyes have motion carried. We are down to our recognition at this time [15:34] and we have three [15:38] but two really we [16:03] I would like for Chief Torain and Chief Hess to come. [16:08] Major Gil, can you come too? Thank you. [16:22] I am reading a proclamation for the city of Roxboro for 911 day of remembrance [16:28] 25th anniversary. Whereas in an unprovoked and senseless [16:33] act of terrorism, four civilian aircrafts were hijacked on September [16:38] 11th, 2001 and crashed in New York City, Pennsylvania, and the Pentagon resulted [16:45] in a momentum loss of innocent US lives of all heritage. And whereas while we [16:52] still continue to recover from the the loss of innocent lives, the spirit of [16:57] the United States has been re revitalized, given ways of expression [17:02] and patriotism and whereas inspired by the hero hero herois heroism of our [17:10] nation public service personnel, military service members and countless [17:16] volunteers. our nation found unity and strength. And whereas from the tragedy [17:21] of September 11th emerges a strong nation renewed by the spirit of nation, [17:27] national pride and true love of country. And whereas Americans also have fought [17:34] back against terror and by choosing to overcome evil with good by loving their [17:40] neighbors as they would like the to be loved, contributing to relief efforts [17:46] and volunteering their time to aid those in need. Now therefore, be it resolved [17:52] that we, the Roxberry City Council, do hereby proclaim September 11th, 2026, is [17:58] the 25th anniversary of the attack of 911 and also the 911 National Day of [18:04] Service and Remembrance in the City of Roxboro, and urge our citizens and [18:09] recognize the hero heroism and firefighters, rescue, law enforcement [18:13] personnel, military service members, and the many volunteers who responded to the [18:18] tragic event which courage selfless [18:23] and compassion deterior deter determination and skills and to remember [18:29] the victims of innocent lives lost as a result of the tragic event of September [18:34] 11 2001 adopted this the 8th day of September 2026 and I want to shake you [18:40] all's hand and thank you for your service [18:46] thank [18:51] Let's give them a hand. [19:06] I recall that day so well. I was working at the sheriff's office. Uh Sheriff [19:10] Oakley at the time was down there. He said, "Y'all come here and look." We all [19:15] ran back to his office and saw what was going on. And I have to have to take my [19:19] daughter to the dentist in Durham that day. And uh from here to Durham, I was [19:24] looking all over the skies making sure no planes coming down on the highway to [19:28] hit me on 501. So I remember that day so well. Thank you all for your service. [19:34] I was this get me signed when Miss Linda come back. So we'll get to you then. [19:40] also like to do the proclamation constitution week September the 17th to [19:45] the 23rd 2026. If you ladies will come. [20:01] We thank you all for coming today for this proclamation [20:06] proclamation constitution week September 17th to the 23rd 2026. Whereas September [20:13] the 17th marks the 250 239th anniversary of the drafting of the [20:20] Constitution of the United States of America by the Constitutional [20:24] Convention. And whereas it is fitting and proper and accord official [20:28] recognitions to this magnificent document and its memorable anniversary [20:34] and to the patriot celebration that will commemorate commemorate the occasion. [20:39] And whereas public law 915 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year [20:46] by the president of the United States of America designating September the 17th [20:51] to September the 23rd as a constitutional week. Whereas the Thomas [20:56] daughter, the Thomas person chapter of the Daughters of American Revolution [21:00] celebrates this document that established our government and a [21:03] reaffirm the individual liberties that our forefathers fought and died for. Now [21:10] therefore, I Cynthia C. Petty, by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor [21:15] of the city of Roxboro, do hereby proclaim the week of 17 September 17th [21:20] through the 23rd as constitutional week in Roxboro, North Carolina and ask our [21:25] citizens to reaffirm the idea of the farmers and the constitution in 1787 [21:31] by vigilizing protecting and the freedom guaranteed to us through the gardening [21:37] of our liberties. Remember that lost rights may never be regained. And I [21:44] thank you all for coming. >> Thank you. [21:46] » Yes, ma'am. Thank you for coming. [21:55] » I told uh Cynthia that last time when I you did the Declaration of Independence [22:01] Proclamation, I didn't say anything and I thought I needed to say something to [22:05] tonight. I'm going to say something to her and the city council. The Thomas [22:10] Person chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution wishes to thank [22:14] Mayor Cynthia Petty and the Roxboro City Council for proclaiming the historic [22:20] signing of the United States Constitution on September 17th um 1787. [22:26] The D pi petitioned Congress in 1955 to set aside this specific week [22:34] September 17 through 23rd which was then signed into law in 1956 by President [22:42] Dwight David Eisenhower. This observation aims to remind people [22:47] that the Constitution is the foundation of American life. [22:52] that we want to encourage the study of historical historical events surrounding [22:58] the cre uh creation and we want to emphasize the duties of citizenship. [23:04] Thank you. >> Thank you. [23:24] Our [23:35] next recognition is the Roxboro Area Chamber of Commerce leadership of Per [23:41] County. We recognize you all. We thank you so much for being here and we glad [23:45] you came and you got some questions probably answered that you probably [23:48] hadn't even thought about or might wonder why we do what we do. But it's a [23:52] reason for everything that I know. And we thank you all for coming and we hope [23:57] you learned something since you've been here. [23:59] Have you? Okay. It's okay. Well, we thank you all so much for that. We We [24:04] appreciate you coming. [24:08] » Excuse me. [24:12] » He said something just made me sorry. At this time, we're down to our public [24:20] comment period. Time is set aside each and every month meeting to to any [24:26] citizen to have an opportunity to address the city council concern [24:30] concerning city matters with the exclusion of an agenda item uh listed in [24:36] the public hearing or orders matters. If you wish to speak during the public [24:40] comment period, we require you provide your name, address, and contact [24:44] information to and and speak that when you go to the podium and tell us what [24:49] your concern is. We just only have one person signed up today. That's Miss [24:52] Wanda Robertson. [25:00] » My name is Wanda Robertson. I live at 1428 Pointer Street. [25:06] My phone number's 3365982367. [25:13] Email Wanda Robertson 27@gmail.com. [25:20] The reason I'm here is we need some no parking signs down [25:26] there. And I've addressed several people. They said that we needed [25:30] ordinance. Okay. Park Street and School Street both have [25:36] them. I'm in the middle. And we've got one man that he don't want [25:40] to put his stuff in his driveway. And if it's had rained anything, I have ruts. I [25:46] know that's the city's property right there, but I have to maintain it. The [25:51] man I have to mow my grass, he pulls in the driveway like he's supposed to. this [25:58] guy that owned a house at 1425. [26:03] He parks it on the street. Uh, Captain Ford, can I get you in this? [26:09] Captain Ford called him one day and tell them what he told you. Did he talk nice [26:16] to you? Tell the truth. [26:20] » Huh? >> He wasn't going to listen to what you [26:24] said, right? wanted to know. [26:32] » I didn't know he asked you that. But anyway, I wish y'all would consider [26:38] several no parking signs down there. Um, from Porner Street going around Park [26:45] Street, some people they park right there in [26:49] that curve because it'll be so many people at 1432. [26:53] They they park in the curve right there and that's dangerous. [26:57] I've seen several people do that. So, if I could get y'all to okay some signs to [27:03] put down there, I sure would appreciate it. [27:10] All right. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you coming. [27:13] » Yes, ma'am. >> Is anybody else in the audience would [27:16] like to comment when it's public comment time? [27:21] Seeing no other public comment is uh closed at this [27:25] time. We go to our next order of business is uh public hearing ordinance [27:31] matter budget amendment financial director Janelle Moore. [27:48] » Good evening council. Good evening. >> Before you tonight is your budget [27:53] amendment one for fiscal year 2627 and it is to appropriate the FEMA money [27:59] that was received in the prior year for the Haiko Creek pump station repair. [28:04] This repair came in um a little under 290,000. I'm asking for the um even [28:10] number there for clean bookkeeping records. [28:24] just moving from one fund to another. >> Uh we're basically recognizing it. Um so [28:30] it um was given to us in the last fiscal year. And so in order to recognize it [28:35] for this year, it has to go in as funded balance appropriated because we received [28:38] it in the prior year. >> So So it went in the fund balance. Now [28:41] we're having to pull it out. >> Yep. [28:44] need to pull anything out. But I know >> I I agree. Yeah. I don't like doing it [28:48] either, but for this project, >> that was what it was designated for. [28:52] » Yep. [29:00] » Mayor, I make a motion that we approve budget amendment number one. [29:03] » Second. >> Moved by Council Phillips, [29:07] second by Councilman Channel. We approve uh budget amendment number one. All in [29:12] favor say I. >> I. I [29:14] » Are there any opposed? Eyes have it. Budget carried. Motion [29:19] carried. We have no old business at this time. We down to our new business. Miss [29:23] Moore might as well stay there. Um with the request for funding for [29:28] personal veteran council. >> Um back in July, the person um veterans [29:35] council sent a proposal to us um requesting $1,000 for the first [29:41] responders memorial. Um, I'm bringing this to council for [29:46] your approval um to use the remaining uh allocated money in the community support [29:53] line of $1,000 to um be directed towards the person veterans council. [30:01] » That fund you just mentioned is say that again. [30:05] » Um so it's uh the community support line. Um, so you will have uh you [30:11] approve community support items that are given to you in the budget process. Uh, [30:17] and there's money set aside for those allocations. Uh, and this year there [30:21] just happened to be $1,000 left uh, or reserved in that fund. [30:26] » I think that's where the >> Yeah, that's what I was going. [30:29] » Yeah, that's where Y [30:36] » just left over. No effect. I'll make a motion that we approve. [30:41] » Second. >> Moved by Councilman Phillips, second by [30:44] Councilman uh Bran. [30:49] We express the funding for the first veterans council is approved. All in [30:52] favor say I. >> I. [30:54] » Any oppose? I have a motion carried. [30:58] » I think it's pretty much finished now as well. [31:01] » Yes, it is Friday. >> It's Friday. I'm not going to be in [31:04] town, so I got to ride by. It's later in the evening, I believe. It's late. [31:08] » Six o'clock. >> Six o'. Yeah. [31:11] » Okay. Capital lease funding 2026 2027. Miss Moore. [31:17] » Um my as the finance director, I'm bringing forth um a intention to uh [31:25] bring forth the capital lease funding for the year 2627. [31:29] Uh so it is intended to borrow funds for the purchase of three police admin [31:33] vehicles, one K police K9 vehicle, one fire BC truck, three truck, one Vermeier [31:41] chipper, and one Godwin vox salt spreader. Uh these amounts were approved [31:49] to be financed in the original adoption of the 2627 fiscal year. Uh the details [31:55] uh of these capital leases will be finalized leading up to the designated [31:59] LGC meeting as determined by the LGC staff. In order for this financing to [32:05] take place, um it's requested that myself, the finance director, and Brooks [32:10] Lock Cart, the city manager, be authorized to complete the financing [32:13] arrangements on behalf of the city with the the details to be reported to city [32:18] council at the corresponding council meeting after the termination from the [32:22] LGC. RFP RFPs will be sent to out to local financing entities if approved by [32:29] council. This information will then be reviewed by the LGC staff and will be [32:34] assigned a presentation date to council after their review. [32:44] » What do we typically see once we actually order these vehicles? How long [32:49] does it typically take for us to receive them? [32:53] It's been variable. Um, so with the state contract vehicles, there was a [32:59] huge lag a couple years ago, but it's that's resolved. If we were talking [33:03] about a fire truck, like a full-on engine, you're talking a year plus build [33:07] still. Uh, but we're talking you're not talking a fire truck, you're talking a [33:10] battalion chief truck, which is a stock truck. Um, so I wouldn't imagine a huge [33:15] turnaround on most of these items. U Chief Pest, I believe your vehicles are [33:20] a four month process or roundabout a four month process. Um and then the [33:26] Vimir Chipper and the Godwin V Vbox um actually would be available as soon as [33:32] we were ready to say yes. Um the gentleman has actually been reaching out [33:37] to our um public works uh superintendent about ordering. Um but you know, we have [33:43] to wait for approval. So that's right. [33:50] So you just need permission to send out the RFPs [33:54] » and to act on behalf of the city. >> Move for approval [34:00] that second move by Councilman Phillips second by Mayor Pro Tim outlaw with [34:09] approve of them to check on the RFPs for these uh capital lease funding. Miss [34:14] Moore and Mr. Phillips. All in favor say I. [34:16] » I. >> Any oppose? [34:19] Eyes have it. Motion carried. Now we're down to update the job description. Miss [34:24] Pamela Rogers. >> Pam, you can stay at the deis if you [34:28] want. You have a microphone. >> Let me take notes for you. M. [34:40] » Is it on? Yes. Here we go. Um, good evening. Um so tonight for your [34:45] consideration you have uh three job description updates. Um as you know and [34:51] you are familiar with in the public services department we have a division [34:54] that's referred to as public utilities. You know what that means? That is the [34:58] the division that does the water and sewer line maintenance, water meter [35:02] reading and things like pump stations, things like that. While we currently [35:06] have titles in that department of public utilities worker, public utilities uh [35:11] crew leader, the superintendent and supervisor are called utility [35:16] construction superintendent and utility construction supervisor. Um those are [35:21] throwbacks to uh quite a while ago. Um and we don't do as much construction now [35:27] and it's a little confusing. Um, so we're just asking uh staff is asking [35:31] council um permission to change those names to public utilities superintendent [35:36] and public utilities supervisor um to follow suit with the division that [35:40] they're in um and make any changes um referenced in other job descriptions [35:45] where it just says that is who they report to that we would update that [35:48] throughout. Um and the third one is the lead meter reader job. Uh we have in [35:54] addition to if council approves changing the supervisor title um have asked to [36:00] change some of the wording and take out some of the things in here to uh align [36:04] with our current practices um and expectations of that job. Um this job [36:09] had not been updated since 2007 the job description and the practices have [36:15] changed though since then in the last 20 years. Um, so we're asking for those [36:21] updates as well and I'll be glad to answer any questions that I can. [36:27] » I'm assuming we just pull these from, you know, the the titles are typically [36:32] what we're seeing across the board at other cities more or less. [36:36] » I think so. I think they um they did that and then along with what they were [36:40] doing at the time, they they had those names. [36:43] » Thank you. [36:51] May I move for approval as presented by M. Rogers? [36:54] » Second. >> Move by Councilman Chandler, second by [36:58] Councilman Brand for the approval of the update for the three job description. [37:02] All in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? Eyes have it. Motion's [37:06] carried. All right. Down to the resolution [37:10] to declare surplus. Chief H. [37:18] Good evening, madame mayor, members of council. Before you is a resolution [37:22] requesting to surplus three police cars that are 12 and 14, 12 and 13 years old. [37:29] Um, we typically keep them for 8 to 10 years, so they've exceeded their useful [37:33] life. Uh, and the beauty of this is we're asking them to be surplus to the [37:37] Vance Granville Community College, which is where we send all of our new hires [37:41] for the police academy. Uh, and so basically our employees uh, and other [37:46] police cadets would be able to use these vehicles for the statemandated driving [37:51] training uh, in the police academy. And so we're kind of paying oursel forward, [37:56] if you will, by having the vehicles available for law enforcement training [38:00] at the community college. >> We get a break on tuition if we do this. [38:06] » Sure. We can have a conversation. >> Amen, brother. If you weren't donating [38:10] them to VC, VGCC, would we be selling them for our surplus program to our [38:17] » Yes, ma'am. The city's processes to put them on gov deals, and we generally get [38:20] about $1,000 or less for a police car of this age. [38:24] » Okay. Thanks. [38:34] I move that >> I move that we uh move forward with the [38:39] resolution to declare the surplus for the GCC BL program. [38:45] » Second move that council congress second by mayor pro Tim outlaw the resolution [38:51] to declare the surplus of advanced grammar community college program. All [38:55] in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Eyes have it and motion is [39:00] carried. [39:03] Next, we're down to the special event parade information homecoming veterans [39:07] and Christmas. Chief head. >> All right. So, since Miss Lauren's not [39:11] here, I apologize. I don't have the soft voice that she has and I don't uh have [39:15] the beauty of appearance that she has. So, as I'm up here for an extended [39:19] period of time, bear with me. Uh before you is a request for the homecoming [39:24] application. Council may remember a couple years ago we modified the day and [39:28] time for public safety reasons. This year we met with staff members from the [39:33] school along with the sergeant for the school resource officer, Sergeant [39:36] Charlotte, and came up with a joint public safety plan to try and mitigate [39:40] some of the public safety concerns that were presented over the years. That [39:43] information is before you uh in the packet. [39:49] The proposal this year is to have the homecoming parade on Friday, October [39:53] 9th, beginning at 4 pm with street closures starting at 3 p.m. to allow us [39:58] to try and clear vehicles from the roadway and to have them set up. We'll [40:03] utilize the traditional July 4th parade route. So, they'll stage on Morehead [40:07] Street like the July 4th parade does and then start down Main Street to Merit [40:12] Commons. The COI is included. There are no conflicting special events or food [40:16] trucks scheduled. Important to this plan is staff from Person High School has [40:22] agreed to help notify businesses for the no on street parking. Uh in in the years [40:28] past, we had cars that were parked on Main Street and then as the student [40:32] walkers were going down the road, traffic was driving into the parade and [40:37] so you can imagine that's a public safety nightmare and a liability concern [40:40] for the city. So I appreciate the high school staff being willing to do that. [40:44] I'm also going to work with emergency management to get one of those message [40:47] board signs to remind people not to park on the street uh after 3:00 that day. As [40:54] mentioned, the sheriff's office has agreed to assist with road closures and [40:57] the parade safety rules are in the packet. I would ask that um council [41:04] would include the contingent joint public [41:08] safety plan that's in your packet uh for this parade. [41:14] I'll entertain any questions you may have. [41:26] » Any questions? >> Are we sure there's no buses that would [41:29] need to go down that rout? >> Yes, ma'am. I've talked with the public [41:33] schools and RCS. Uh Bethl Hill has agreed to alter traffic uh bus route for [41:40] Uptown and RCS has agreed to make public announcements um to alter student [41:45] traffic leaving RCS. [41:58] Are some of the students going to bring their um [42:02] loud trucks and the Will you call them those front high [42:08] » Carolina squatters? >> Yeah. [42:09] » Not in this parade. They won't. >> Okay. Thought maybe they might [42:15] » since that seems to be who drives those things. [42:17] » You were correct. My heathen was one of them back in the day. [42:21] » Who's that? >> My heathen. [42:24] » That's a child. [42:28] » He's out of high school now. He don't have it anymore. [42:35] Do you need each one of them voted on separately? [42:40] » That's your discretion, madame mayor. I can go through all three of them or we [42:42] can do them independently. It's your discretion. [42:44] » Questions, huh? >> She see if we can do them all together. [42:47] » Okay. Okay. >> All right. Any other questions on [42:50] homecoming? >> Mark, how do you feel about the [42:52] insuranceances? >> Look good to me. [42:54] » Okay. I looked at >> you know [43:06] All right, the next one before you is the Veterans Parade. The manager is [43:10] passing a policy declaration that was received today at 4:45. [43:17] Um, we have been asking for the COI or an insurance binder. This is what was [43:21] produced. The Veterans Parade is proposed for [43:27] Saturday, November the 7th at 10:00 a.m. with road closures beginning at 8:30 to [43:32] accommodate parade setup. Uh it utilizes the traditional July 4th route in [43:37] reverse. So it will start at Merit Commons and end at the history museum. [43:43] Uh [43:46] policy declaration is before you for consideration. I will say historic to [43:51] this particular special event, the Veterans Council has always had [43:56] difficulty getting us a COI uh included in the packet for your presentation, but [44:02] have always been able to get us the COI in hand 30 days prior to the parade [44:08] starting. Something to do with the particular insurance company that they [44:12] have is what's been explained to me, but we've always had a COI in hand. [44:16] There are no conflicting special events or food trucks scheduled. Uh several [44:20] public safety entities have agreed to assist with resources for road closures [44:24] and the parade safety rules are in effect. Happy to entertain any [44:28] questions. >> This one page here that says additional [44:32] insured owners that last [44:36] » Yes, sir. >> page that that covers everything I see. [44:40] » All right. Thank you for that. If if they issued a certificate, it wouldn't [44:44] it automatically includes anybody that's requiring a coverage be added as [44:51] additional issuers by contract. >> Okay. Thank you. That's very helpful. [45:01] » Any other questions on the Veterans Parade? [45:06] » Seeing none, the last one for you is the annual JC's Christmas parade. It's [45:11] proposed for Saturday, December the 12th at 2 PM with road closures starting one [45:16] hour prior. Uh it will utilize a traditional tra uh parade route. COIs [45:21] included uh parade safety rules are in effect. The public's reminded there's no [45:25] parking along the parade route and consistent with what we've done in [45:29] previous years. We'll put out numerous public service announcements and work [45:32] with emergency management for the message board. Happy to entertain any [45:36] questions. [45:39] I just have one question about this and this is just probably Brooks, you can [45:42] answer this. There's no there's no issue with the pri the primary contact being a [45:47] city employee, right? >> Is that going to have any effect? [45:51] » No, they did not get special treatment. That would be the only concern somebody [45:55] might have is that we're giving them special approval. Okay. [45:58] » But historically, we've given them approval. [46:00] » Sure. >> Prior to that being a city staff member. [46:02] So, I think the appearance of conflict is negligible. and they're not [46:07] financially benefiting from that individual is not personally financially [46:10] benefiting. >> Okay. I just didn't know if there were [46:12] something with insurance, city insurance. I didn't want to get over [46:15] that. [46:24] » That's how much happened to situation. She just happens to be [46:29] » Well, yeah. I just wanted to make sure we didn't we didn't, you know, [46:33] we don't see there's any issues with that. [46:42] Any other concerns for the chief? [46:48] » I move that we approve all three parades. [46:52] » Second. >> Move by Councilman Brian, second by [46:55] Councilman Chandler. We approve the homecoming, the veterans, and the [46:58] Christmas parade. All in favor say I. >> I. [47:02] » Any nays? The eyes have it. The motion is carried. Thank you, council. [47:05] » Thank you, Chief. We're down to a WLFPO project, Mr. Lockhart. [47:12] » Thank you, Mayor. [47:19] So, the watershed wershed and flood prevention operations project, we are [47:24] putting out an RFP. We're asking council's permission to put out a [47:26] request for proposal for engineering services. Staff is seeking council [47:30] approval to issue the attached request for proposals for engineering services [47:34] to evaluate and develop an environmental assessment for the purpose of flood [47:39] prevention in the Marlo's Creek WHED specifically targeting the Tanard branch [47:44] corridor as authorized and funded by the National Natural Resource Conservation [47:51] Service. This will be a follow-up to the previously completed preliminary [47:56] investigation findings report or PIFFER which and it will weigh all the [48:01] alternatives and ultimately will end result with proposed methods to address [48:06] the flooding and sinkhole concerns. Following the completion of this [48:10] project, it is the city's anticipation to seek additional federal funds to [48:15] construct, implement, purchase, and ultimately address those [48:21] issues. Traditionally, the proposal would be evaluated and scored by a team [48:25] of city staff, possibly bringing um some expertise from the county as well with [48:30] the intention to bring a recommendation to the council for your approval. [48:42] Is the Marlo Creek watershed connected to the Tanard branch? [48:46] » Tanyard branch is part of it. >> Yep. [49:02] I move that we accept the requests for proposals [49:09] for the funding engineer services. Engineering services. [49:17] » Moved by council car, second by mayor pro Timlaw for the approval for the [49:22] request for the proposal for engineered service. All in favor say I. I. [49:27] » Any opposed? I have a motion carrot. resolution seeking funding for inflow [49:34] and infiltration repairs. >> U mayor, on the previous item, I did [49:38] want to note that is being federally funded. So that engineering is not being [49:43] paid local dollars. That is federal dollars. [49:45] » Thank you for that clarification. >> Sorry, I didn't I buried the lead there. [49:50] On the next item, resolution for seeking funding for inflow and infiltration [49:53] repairs. Uh once again, staff is seeking council approval on the attached [49:57] resolution. The city intends to apply for funding to assist with the design [50:02] and construction of a large section of the Marlo Creek Outfall sanitary sewer [50:06] rehabilitation project. This project is being spit split, excuse me, into three [50:12] phases with phase one completing the abandonments of an old 15-in sewer main [50:17] that were identified in the 2020 AIA project to reclaim system capacity due [50:23] to inflow. Basically, an old leaky line that left in the ground we're going to [50:26] take out of service completely. plug it. Um phase two um or phase one also [50:33] includes point repairs to eliminate potentially large contributors of [50:36] inflow. And these work areas were also identified in the 2020 sewer AIA study. [50:43] Phase 2 consists of approximately 6,000 linear feet of sewer rehabilitation via [50:48] cast and place methods and includes manhole rehabilitation. [50:52] The phase one and phase two project areas generally parallel Main Street [50:57] from Memorial Drive to uh Brader Street. Phase three continues higher in the [51:02] drainage basin from approximately Brader Street parallel paralleling Marlo's [51:07] Creek to Oxford Road being approximately 16,000 linear feet. Phase three would [51:12] include cast and place rehabilitation, manhole rehabilitation and dig and [51:17] replace basically removal of line and complete replacement in where warranted. [51:22] The phase three uh portion was extensively studied in 2018 2019. [51:27] The resolution does not commit the city to spending any funds or accepting any [51:31] funds, but it does serve as a notice to council that its staff's desire to apply [51:34] for funding while designating or affirming authorized representatives, [51:39] myself, that can sign on behalf of the city. We've applied for these funds in [51:43] the past, this past spring, and we were not awarded uh funding due to other [51:47] applications being in more severe disrepair due to our lack of reported [51:52] sanitary sewer overflows. the application. Uh we have I don't know if [51:58] it's good news, but we have additional sanitary sewer overflows that have been [52:01] reported to the state that are going to be part of this application. [52:04] Um which will hopefully increase our chances for funding. So staff is [52:09] requesting council to approve the attached resolution and authorize staff [52:12] to execute any related documentation. [52:20] » Raiders [52:27] near. >> Yeah, [52:41] » you're right. You're right. >> Got a subject matter expert. [52:49] » Okay. [52:52] B R A D E R >> T [52:55] » B R A T >> T E R. [53:03] » I move that we approve the resolution for seeking funding for inflow and [53:07] infiltration repairs. Second [53:11] » motion by Council Member Brand, second by Councilman Channel for the approval [53:16] for the seeking the funding for the inflow and infiltration paired by uh [53:23] county city manager Lockard. All in favor say I. I. [53:27] » Any opposed? I have it. Motion carried. Okay, we're down to the contact approval [53:33] for no new work order software. >> Uh thank you, mayor. [53:39] Staff is seeking council approval for the attached contract for services for a [53:43] work order software called asset essentials. This would replace our [53:47] existing software while adding multiple uh subdivisions, not technically [53:52] department subdivisions and the ability to geotag work projects for the [53:56] integration into our mapping. The software would allow us to convert our [54:00] public services functions from paperbased work order system to a cloud [54:04] hosted system that could be remotely accessed and provide real-time reports [54:08] on our activities. For example, this past year, Rox was selected by the state [54:13] for an audit on our pal activities. The supporting documentation [54:18] of the work completed was saved onto a local computer or local machine which [54:23] became corrupted. We were unable to have its data recovered and due to lack of [54:27] supporting documentation, we had to file an amended claim with our annual PAL [54:31] bill report. Effectively, our books now show uh more restricted fund balance [54:36] which lowered our unrestricted fund balance. The cash is still the same. It [54:40] didn't change any money. It just changed how money was categorized. [54:44] Um the city is currently in contract with a a firm called I Works, which is [54:50] pronounced I Works spelled with a Q though. uh for work orders related to [54:55] building and grounds for the scheduling and for the scheduling of vehicle [54:59] repairs at the garage. This contract has ballooned to $10,000 annually and was [55:04] only providing non geollocated services to a limited list of work functions [55:08] which were building grounds and scheduling using it as a scheduling [55:12] software for the garage. During budget planning, staff evaluated [55:16] other options which could do more for less funds. We included an amount for [55:20] Eyeworks in the budget and had contacted them to cancel our contract three months [55:25] prior to the end of our fiscal year. The contract was apparently not on our [55:29] fiscal calendar and our cancellation did not meet the contractual three-month [55:34] notification clause for terminating services. We did [55:39] herang them very hard and got them to cut their bill in half, though. So, [55:42] their bill went down to $5,000. uh we will be cancelling effectively if [55:48] council approves us implementing this effectively immediately if porting any [55:52] data. We explored better options and were able [55:55] to get assets to essentials to agree to a six-month contract for $3,139.13 [56:02] a onetime implementation fee of $2,246 for a total of $5385 [56:10] for the current fiscal year. There are adequate funds available to make this [56:13] switch now. Future annual payments are shown in the contract document, but [56:18] begin next year at 7,846 annually with a sliding adjustment of 3% [56:23] for the next 5 years. If the deployment pro uh proves fruitful, the city [56:28] consider putting up a public facing reporting feature which can assist in [56:32] documenting infrastructure concerns. So, you know how a lot of communities have a [56:37] report, you have a broken street here or something. Uh we can if if we like how [56:42] this works, we can then integrate that. That would be an extension at a later [56:46] date. Um staff is requesting council approve the attached proposal for [56:50] services and to authorize staff to execute any related documentation. [56:56] » Would the public facing reporting feature cost more? [57:01] » Most likely it would open up more access. Um but at this time what we [57:05] really the main thrust we're wanting to get from is converting from our paper [57:09] documentation for work orders to a digital a clouds save digital base. So [57:14] we are part of the data center problem if we went to this model. Um but it is [57:19] it is more reliable and able to do reports on the fly and it also [57:23] geoloccates so we can do heat mapping. Um, so it's Brian, do you want to add [57:30] anything or did I cover it pretty much [57:36] and thank you for coming up? [57:46] Good evening, council and mayor. Um that's all [57:51] just to uh give you an idea how it will help the public utilities and public [57:57] works department. Uh say u a resident calls in a water leak. Um it will [58:04] automatically go to the public utility superintendent [58:09] and he will be able to put that on the schedule, plan out the repairs. he can [58:14] look after we get enough um data entered into the system, we can know what size [58:22] line it is, we'll be able to locate where the valves are to cut the water [58:26] off. Um after they get done with the repair, they can transfer it to the [58:32] public works department so they'll know to come out and do a an asphalt repair [58:37] or curb and gutter repair, sidewalk repair. They can take pictures, they can [58:41] take images, put it down, and it just it it's better communication within it. And [58:47] as Brooke said, it will help with the audit. Um the pile bill, they want to [58:54] they want to know where we patched, how much we patched, how much asphalt we [58:59] used, how many people were in on job site. They want to know all this [59:05] information. And right now it's just it's write it down, write it down, keep [59:10] a log. This would help organize and keep everything [59:15] » simpler. >> And I'd like to add to that when the [59:17] fiber companies hit our lines, which they have done as they've been deploying [59:21] fiber throughout the community. Um, this will track how many manh hours we had, [59:25] who worked the job, what their pay rate. We could put their pay rates in there or [59:30] or at least have HR then take the hours and and calculate the pay rates, but we [59:35] can get much quicker a turnaround to get a claim on cash against these companies [59:39] that are doing damage to our infrastructure, which is another big [59:43] valuable piece because it we have been uh it's not fast for us to get that [59:47] turned around currently. and somebody from finance could generate [59:53] that report and not have to bother somebody in the utilities crew because [59:57] they've already entered their data. >> It will also help with um cut off time. [1:00:03] Yeah. >> When water meters are being cut off [1:00:06] » on and off. >> Right now the crews have to come back to [1:00:08] city hall to get the information and then go back out and then once they take [1:00:12] care of those four or five they come back they think they're done. Well, they [1:00:16] get sent back out. They'll have tablets with them and they'll be able to read [1:00:21] from those tablets. It'll be automatically updating so we'll know [1:00:25] that they can stay in the field and be more efficient that way. [1:00:30] The >> tablets included in this price. [1:00:32] » We already have the tablets. We're currently using them. Meter readers have [1:00:36] data enabled tablets. Now, if we expand further in other departments, no, we [1:00:40] don't have currently any additional technology added like smartphones or [1:00:44] tablets, but it may be something we might want to consider. data enabled [1:00:47] tablets at some point for other but I think utilities owns the meter readers [1:00:53] own two and I believe there are two the utilities we have that we're paying for [1:00:59] that we're not currently utilizing to full potential [1:01:05] and this would encourage them to use those [1:01:09] I'm looking but there's a lot of terms here do you know what the uh when we [1:01:14] must uh unsubscribe subscribe from the service [1:01:19] » if we have to give them a 60 or 90day notice. [1:01:21] » I'm looking through here. There's a lot of lot of terms. [1:01:24] » 25 pages. Yeah. I don't know off the top of my head. You'll have to give me a [1:01:27] second. Um >> I would just say that we might want to [1:01:31] put that on our calendar just in case it doesn't work out the first year. We [1:01:34] » we come out with our money in hand. >> That's fair. [1:01:38] » If this information is stored in the cloud, do we have a backup? like if you [1:01:43] stop using this system, does all our data go away or how does that work? [1:01:48] » So you would you would export it. So typically they have the ability to [1:01:53] export your data. Um one thing we're going to do is integrate with the [1:01:56] county's GIS office. So that she's going to be scraping data as we go into the [1:02:02] GIS data or at least not into the public facing GIS database, but we'll have data [1:02:06] scraped as we go. So we'll have access to that data. [1:02:11] Um, [1:02:16] that's a scope document. There it is. Um, [1:02:23] we're we're signing up for a 57-month term. [1:02:32] » We're locked in for six years. >> Five years. Yeah. [1:02:38] » Not quite five. >> Yeah. [1:02:40] and they're giving us uh three months for free um in addition to [1:02:44] » So it is a 60 month >> essentially. Yeah, we'd be on it for 60 [1:02:49] months. Yeah, that's correct. [1:02:54] » But again, if they don't meet the terms in the contract, they're in breach. [1:03:03] They didn't have a shorter term. And I'm only asking because I don't like to be [1:03:07] locked into anything. If it doesn't work, I'd like to [1:03:10] » Sure. So, okay, here we go. So, as far as [1:03:15] exporting the data, can extract data be migrated from existing source system [1:03:18] into CVS or Excel files, which are common separated values. [1:03:23] And then, um, we actually had asked for a longer term. The reason we did um is [1:03:29] because we could get the price point down. So, we're currently paying $10,000 [1:03:33] a year for the software that we are not utilizing the full potential and we're [1:03:38] not happy with. And this is a market improvement um because it can integrate [1:03:43] geotags and can integrate with the GIS. We give the county um GIS technician [1:03:49] um access a seat at the table. They've actually been on the demos. Um [1:03:55] » so, we'll be going from 10,000 to 700. >> That's right. 7,800. [1:04:00] But in year one, it's 5 it's got an implementation fee. It's 5,300. [1:04:05] So there is it's going to be hitting right now. It currently hits the garage [1:04:09] and building primarily building and grounds and the garage. Um we we will [1:04:14] put this most likely in contracted services and public services for now and [1:04:19] then eventually we'll spread it out over utilities, the the units that are using [1:04:23] it essentially for future budgetary years. [1:04:27] Uh the group that was chosen for this, I'm assuming it's because it fit our [1:04:31] budget, but have we heard of our counterparts using this group? [1:04:35] » Uh yes. So you may know this software under different names. Um it was [1:04:40] previously known as facility dude. Then it became utility cloud. Now it's owned [1:04:45] by Seammens and they call it asset essentials. Uh we did we did talk to [1:04:51] other people that are using it and they had very good feedback. [1:04:56] All seen's other products are good for the most part. [1:04:59] » Well, they also are doing fire sprinklers, believe it or not, too. [1:05:03] Like, I've run into them doing fire sprinkling services. So, they got their [1:05:08] hands in everything. [1:05:14] » Any other questions? [1:05:21] the software is only going to be you as good as our staff's utilization of it. [1:05:26] If we don't follow through and actually use it, it's wasted money. [1:05:31] So, there's there's very much an um onus is on us to make sure we're getting the [1:05:36] maximum value of our dollar. >> You think we'll use it? It'll be [1:05:42] beneficial. >> It's going to take a time. It's going to [1:05:45] take some time to get up to speed. After we get up to speed, it's going to be [1:05:49] very beneficial because it's looking after the next generation. [1:05:55] Right now, we're in we had the the great tsunami come in where everybody retired [1:06:00] and they took all that knowledge with them. If we can get it documented and it [1:06:08] it'll show you. I mean, I can give you a tablet and you can go locate a water [1:06:12] meter in Helena or toward Mayo. You all you'll have to do is pull it up and look [1:06:19] at it and it will take you and geollocate you where it is. [1:06:23] » So, essentially saves time. >> That's right. And it forces us to have [1:06:28] this work order system which again helps us with other accountancy issues and [1:06:33] accountability. So, one thing you know people call in right now they call the [1:06:36] clearing house. Well, the clearing house then writes it down on a board and then [1:06:40] gives or shoots an email, gives that over to that division. This will be more [1:06:44] instantaneous. The clearing house can just key this in and then they don't [1:06:47] have to reproduce the work order. They just go and do the work and then they [1:06:50] say this is who did it. This is how many hours they spent doing it. uh we can [1:06:54] take a picture and better inventory and again the valves if we find a valve [1:06:59] because we with lack of knowledge um we we've been experiencing this in the [1:07:04] utilities specifically where some of that institutional historic knowledge [1:07:09] may not have been documented as well as it should have been and it we've had [1:07:12] trouble locating valves sometimes when we maybe shouldn't have had had that [1:07:16] trouble. Um, but having it clearly defined and documented is going to be a [1:07:22] huge benefit. And it's not because anybody isn't doing [1:07:26] their work or historically didn't do their work. It just this forces us to be [1:07:31] more accountable to ourselves in the future. [1:07:34] » And we are locked in that to that price, the 7,000. [1:07:37] » Yeah. There's a schedule. It goes up every year by 3%. [1:07:42] » Okay. Because letter K says they can they have the right to increase the [1:07:45] fees. So, you said a 3% increase every year. [1:07:49] » Yeah, it's it's there's a chart in here. There should be a chart in here. [1:07:52] » Yeah. >> Yeah. [1:07:54] » Those are the terms. >> Yep. [1:08:05] And again, we're paying we've been paying 10,000 for a inferior product. [1:08:19] May move for approval if there's no other questions. [1:08:23] » Second. >> Moved by Councilman Chandler, second by [1:08:29] Councilman Phillip for the contract approval for the new uh work order [1:08:33] software. All in favor say I. >> I. [1:08:36] » Any oppose? Eyes have it. The motion is carried. We're down to the [1:08:40] administrative report. Our finance director, Janelle Mo. [1:08:55] » Good evening again, council. >> Good evening. [1:08:57] » Uh, tonight you're being presented with the financials as of July 31st. [1:09:02] The general fund revenues exceed expenditures by 1,231,337. [1:09:10] In comparison to the prior year, expenditures exceed revenues by 29, [1:09:15] excuse me, let me get my words right. Revenues exceed expenditures by 29,798. [1:09:23] That seems like a very big number. And I'm going to preface this with an [1:09:26] explanation before I get to the fund balance piece of it. [1:09:30] The contributors to the position that we're in at this moment is a reduced [1:09:35] cost in workers compensation and departments understanding that just [1:09:40] because July 1 rolls around that they can purchase everything has made a huge [1:09:45] impact. We also received double the amount of tax revenue in the month of [1:09:50] July compared to the prior year. So that's where that big difference comes [1:09:54] from and it's going to generate the fund balance that you'll that I'll talk about [1:09:58] in a second. The water sewer fund revenues exceeded [1:10:02] expenditures by $228,450. [1:10:07] In comparison to the prior year, expenditures exceeded revenues by [1:10:11] 244,198. Now, as of July 1st, we it we had done a [1:10:18] 21% water increase. I caution you because that is not reflected in this [1:10:23] number. Okay? that money that is budgeted for in that 21% increase will [1:10:30] not hit until September because it goes out in the August bill, which is your [1:10:34] July consumption. Just wanted to preface that as well. [1:10:39] The fund balance for the general fund is at 30.03%. [1:10:45] Prior year comparison was 12.93%. >> And that's unedited. [1:10:52] » That is unaudited. Yep. And so that's where that big jump right there comes [1:10:56] from. The double of the tax that we've gotten and then those other contributing [1:11:02] factors as well. And as a reminder, that's a snapshot in [1:11:07] time, not something that will stay where we hope it stays, but you'll see it [1:11:12] fluctuate over time. The fund balance for the water sewer [1:11:16] fund is at a 17.41% 41% and the prior year comparison for that [1:11:21] was a 7.17%. [1:11:25] There any questions on the financials? [1:11:35] » Just to make sure I'm clear on this, when you said taxes, you're talking [1:11:39] about property taxes. >> Yeah, property taxes, [1:11:41] » not sales taxes. >> Yeah, property taxes. And I when you get [1:11:43] to the when I get to the tax report in a second, you'll see that percentage. [1:11:47] Yeah, you'll see the percentage. [1:11:54] If there's no other questions, I'll move to the tax report. [1:12:00] Uh, so the percent of collection as of July 31st, which of course is one month [1:12:04] into our fiscal year, is at a 6.11%. Prior year comparison was a 3.8%. So [1:12:10] that's where you'll see those revenue numbers come from. [1:12:14] » 240,000 of that. >> Yeah. [1:12:18] » Question. [1:12:23] You don't have a year on this. [1:12:28] » 24. The middle one. Is that 24? [1:12:35] 91.67. That's the That's not [1:12:41] That's >> that the middle. [1:12:43] » Oh, the middle one. I'm sorry. That is supposed to be the 2020. Those dates [1:12:46] should be switched over. So, when editing the spreadsheet to present to [1:12:51] council, 2025 should have moved over and it should have said 2020. [1:12:54] » It should be over that middle. >> Yeah. Yeah. [1:12:56] » So, 25 should be right here. >> Yeah. I mean, the 9167 [1:13:03] » that is for that is as of 2025. the 25 tax. [1:13:09] » It had to be bigger than that for us to meet budget. Didn't it have to be 98 [1:13:15] something? >> Yeah, one of my numbers must change. [1:13:18] Yeah, I believe if I recall correctly, we were at the 99%. [1:13:21] » Yeah, >> as of the end of the fiscal year. So, [1:13:24] that column just something changed in that column. [1:13:27] » Okay. >> But yes, you are correct. 2025 should be [1:13:30] year 26 and then this is should with there's some uh added uh collections [1:13:36] with DMV and everything. >> Okay. [1:13:43] » Editing those documents for year over year to update them is very complicated. [1:13:50] » Sorry. >> No, you're good. I'm glad you I'm glad [1:13:53] you caught the mistake. Keep me honest. >> It's not what I want to hear from a [1:13:58] finance officer. >> But it means they're paying attention, [1:14:01] too. But I don't do it on purpose. Any more questions for Mr. Chanel? [1:14:11] Hearing none, we're down to our manager's report in Western Dave. Mr. [1:14:16] Lockart. [1:14:19] Thank you, Mayor. Uh, first I'd like to call your [1:14:22] attention to a piece of paper that was handed out to you all. It should be at [1:14:26] your seat. It's a spreadsheet. Doesn't have any context, but we're about to get [1:14:30] into it. Um, so just hang tight and I'll run [1:14:35] through the dates on your calendar. Uh, the next council meeting um will be on [1:14:40] the 13th of next month. So, apologies for not putting the month on there. Um, [1:14:45] the um fall litter sweep is Saturday, September 19th, meet at city hall at 8 [1:14:51] a.m. Kurtar banquet. Uh, they are uh Mark Mark emailed you all a follow-up [1:14:58] email, but they want to get some firm commitments. they do not have the [1:15:02] numbers registered that they need in order to justify holding the event. So, [1:15:06] if you do plan to attend, uh please let us know. Uh let Clerk Clayton know or [1:15:11] myself and we'll make sure that you get uh registered. Personality um is October [1:15:17] 3rd here in Uptown Roxboro, 10:00 a.m. to 4 p.m. Remember, it went to a one-day [1:15:21] event. It's just going to be on Saturday uptown. [1:15:26] cruise in is this weekend um from 2 to 5 uptown and I believe uh [1:15:33] Dustin is the museum thing happening this weekend as well? [1:15:36] » Yes, the museum um American history uh living American history for A250 is [1:15:43] at the museum off Main Street. I believe it starts at 10:00 a.m. Saturday morning [1:15:49] and runs till about 2. Uh but the tree there's a tree dedication at noon. Uh [1:15:55] and Carrie has asked that as many of us can be there as possible would be great. [1:16:00] I know that uh me and the mayor have already spoken. I know that she has [1:16:03] another obligation that day on behalf of the city. So I'll be [1:16:09] » I'll be on the way back in [1:16:15] » Excellent. All right. So back to the spreadsheet I handed you all. Water [1:16:20] hauling operations have been completed. MBbridge subcontractor has been paying [1:16:25] monthly and the final invoice has been issued. Here is here's the accountancy [1:16:31] and the totaling. So they anticipated before we started they were going to buy [1:16:36] 16 million gallons of water. Um they started out their initial plan was to do [1:16:41] that hauling in June. They actually delayed. So they got hit with the water [1:16:45] rate increase. Um our our bulk rates went up. So half of this water got built [1:16:50] at a higher rate than the rest of it. But it's still like $9.50 per thousand [1:16:55] gallons, which is higher than the residential rate, which is around $55 to [1:16:59] $6. So they the bulk rates do pay more. Um but they wound up buying 18 million [1:17:05] gallons of water at a billable of $167,947. [1:17:11] Um, we had anticipated bringing in 12 and budgeted bringing in 125,000 from [1:17:16] these sales, which was going to go then to pay for the Stories Creek lift [1:17:21] station or pump, excuse me, lift stations, sanitary [1:17:25] sewers lift, uh, lift station repairs. Um, which actually, Brian, they came in [1:17:31] under budget, correct? >> So, we paid about $100,000. So, that [1:17:36] means 67,000 is going to fund balance. And you know, I know there was a lot of [1:17:43] concern on social media. I will say commercial vehicle and commercial trucks [1:17:48] pay they pay a higher rate the the the tax [1:17:53] rate on the fuel which goes to the maintenance of those roads. DOT [1:17:58] coordinated with them. They did not take loaded or weighted trucks. So the water, [1:18:03] the reason they were driving a giant circle was because they couldn't take [1:18:07] the loaded trucks with the water on them across some of those bridges without [1:18:11] concern from DOT. So they they went around those bridges in question. They [1:18:15] could bring empty trucks back and fill back up, but we had them take from the [1:18:20] least impactful place that wouldn't disturb would impact the least amount of [1:18:25] folks in our community. And all overall, it was a public safety matter. They were [1:18:30] testing the the soundness and the ability for those tanks to hold weight, [1:18:35] which is why they chose water because it was a cheaper option than dumping [1:18:38] natural gas on the ground if something went wrong. Um, so they were testing to [1:18:43] make sure that those were settled properly and we were glad to sell them [1:18:47] water. [1:18:51] We are currently selling water to Dominion Energy uh on the west side of [1:18:56] the county that they're building a large uh gas line that goes to Haiko Haiko [1:19:01] plant. It's going to service those gas turbines. They are currently buying [1:19:05] water out in the western part of the county from us as well. So, we are aware [1:19:09] of that. We have had some issues with water theft over the last several [1:19:13] months. Uh but those people have been cult. Um if you see something, say [1:19:18] something. So, if you see somebody and it doesn't look like they have a meter [1:19:21] that's been issued from us, let us know. We'll get over there and we'll check it [1:19:25] out. We'll have law enforcement uh have a polite conversation with them. [1:19:29] » And I can attest that that will happen. >> Called Chief Hess about one that I [1:19:36] thought I couldn't see a meter [1:19:39] » and he was down there within minutes. [1:19:43] » Yep. >> Turns out they had the meter. They had [1:19:47] it up on the tank rather than [1:19:52] but it was just in a spot where you think [1:19:56] that could be somebody trying to steal. >> Yep. [1:20:00] » Well, our first theft that came to our attention happened right in front of one [1:20:03] of the county commissioners and a chief one of the chief deputies houses and [1:20:07] then beyond that was right in front of one of our our members of our fire [1:20:11] department's house. So, it's been very easy to peg the people that have been [1:20:15] not not paying. Um, we we've had some interaction. So, [1:20:20] just wanted you all to know. >> Is that a fine or is that a what what's [1:20:24] the >> It's actually a misdemeanor. Correct, [1:20:27] Chief. >> Yes, sir. [1:20:32] » Yep. And we can find them up to three times the damage amount. [1:20:37] So, how do we if they've got the water in that tank already, [1:20:44] do we guess how much it is and charge them for it? [1:20:46] » So, I'll give you an I'll give you an example. So, these fiber companies are [1:20:50] running 500-gallon tanks. 500 gallons. We're charging $9 for 1,000 [1:20:55] gallons. It's $450. It's $4.50. [1:21:00] The issue though is when somebody doesn't properly operate the hydrants on [1:21:04] the system and they break. So, the one who was stealing water on East Roxboro [1:21:09] caused a lot of people to be out of water and did in excess of how much [1:21:13] damage, Brian? [1:21:20] » So, they wound up costing $12,000, which they've been summarily in invoiced for. [1:21:25] That's where this work order software comes in handy, too, because we can get [1:21:28] that number turned around a lot quicker. It's all related. [1:21:35] All right, moving on to Shantel update spillway updates. Additional survey work [1:21:40] was completed this past week. Um the relief gate valve at city lake. FEMA has [1:21:44] approved the submission for 22,000 uh 151,590 [1:21:50] is federal for the relief gate valve at city lake. The funds have not been [1:21:55] received as a writing report and last month the council did approve us to [1:21:58] authorize the contractor move forward the minute those funds are received. So, [1:22:01] thank you council for that. Category C. Um, these funds have advanced to pending [1:22:07] DIU final validation. This is filing is for 5% of the current FEMA obligations. [1:22:13] Taking this 5% will not require us to track our manh hours, but it's prime [1:22:16] it's to reimburse us for time spent by staff uh managing this this event. Um, [1:22:22] the total amount of this submission is going to be $229,825. [1:22:28] So that will be money that the city's already incurred on my salary, on [1:22:32] Brian's salary, on the lake warden salary, on Sammy salary, and we'll be [1:22:37] able to basically reimburse ourselves. That will go into effectively into the [1:22:42] enterprise fund fund balance. Um, Western sewer update, the monthly [1:22:48] meeting was held August 27th, and the next one will be held on September 24th [1:22:53] at 9:30. Uh at this point 100% of the gravity 24-inch gravity man is [1:22:58] installed. 94% of the 18inch gravity mains installed. 95% of the manholes are [1:23:03] installed. The gravity zone of course is that uh area from the wastewater [1:23:07] treatment plant north of Samora road. There's no change from the previous [1:23:11] months on the gravity section. Uh work is primarily underway with with boring [1:23:16] um to connect. 78% of the forest man as of August 27th was completed of the [1:23:22] 16inch forest man. 30% 36% of the lift station work has been completed. There's [1:23:28] been no change on that. Two ARVs have been out of the five have been [1:23:32] installed. Trenching is currently underway. You may see them on Chub Lake [1:23:36] now. They're actually starting to put that pipe underneath the road. And [1:23:40] trenching at Leburg Road is currently underway this month as well. Um, I will [1:23:45] note they did have a m safety concern and you'll you can read about that in [1:23:51] your report that is attached from SJ Lewis. U, they did have a a safety [1:23:56] issue. Uh, that did that only led to three day three days of stop work. Uh, [1:24:02] they were back on the on the job moving the job forward. They're still uh way [1:24:06] ahead of schedule. And um, there's one other thing to note. [1:24:13] The county did approve um and they've they're in receipt of [1:24:18] invoices and they are cutting us a check for the full amount. The state has [1:24:21] confirmed that there are no additional funds. [1:24:27] » I just sent y'all a text of a picture. I happened to be on Snake Road the other [1:24:34] day and stopped I was stopped there and that's just what I happened to see. If [1:24:41] you look at that picture, [1:24:46] » I mean it was just perfect. Just send that to Labella. [1:24:52] » Now, does our insurance get pulled for this incident they have? [1:24:57] » No, >> that's theirs. They have the contractor. [1:25:01] That's part of our our contract with them is they have they have full uh [1:25:05] general contractor's liability. It it's theirs. It's it's not our employee that [1:25:09] was involved in this. >> And my last question is about the water. [1:25:14] We we sold 18 million gallons, but then the city lake is low and then Lake [1:25:19] Roxboro is low. Does that have an effect on that? [1:25:23] » Yes, of course, if you sell water, but I'll give you an example. Right now, we [1:25:28] currently are treating we're selling about 1.2 million gallons a day, but [1:25:32] we're treating three. So an economy of scale, we have to treat [1:25:36] more water than we actually sell. So there is water on the system that's [1:25:41] sitting. This helps us to turn over the water and it's actually a good thing [1:25:45] that we have a larger draw at the end of the system because we're not having to [1:25:48] open those hydrants and let that dump out. So that's why we did have them take [1:25:52] from the point they did because it led to better water quality. Uh essentially [1:25:56] lowering the age of the water that was in that line sitting stagnant that [1:26:00] wasn't being turned over as much. Um, is it optimal? Do the optics look bad on [1:26:06] it? Yes, you sold 18 million gallons when we're in a drought. Uh, but I will [1:26:10] say as far as water supply, you will note that while Raleigh and Durham were [1:26:15] underwater restrictions, we never implemented any because we didn't need [1:26:19] to. We have two lakes and if you look at our historic sales going back to the [1:26:23] year 2000 when CNA was here, CNA was buying more than the entire city [1:26:27] combined. We used to sell double what we're selling now. So, we're still very [1:26:32] much in adequate supply. Not something I want to advertise to Durham or Raleigh [1:26:37] so they get any ideas, especially not the general assembly. That is our water [1:26:42] that they don't need to know about that we have adequate supply. [1:26:52] » Another question for Mr. Lockheart. [1:26:58] » Thank you, Mr. Lockheart, for your >> Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Mayor and [1:27:02] council report. Um, economic development. Mr. Lard and [1:27:07] myself did make that uh meeting the head, but we had to leave because we had [1:27:12] a meeting ourselves. Anybody have anything? Uh, Miss Congress, you have [1:27:16] anything for animal services? You have a reporter at all? [1:27:20] » At this point in the year, they have euthanized, 1183 [1:27:24] dogs. Um, that was last year. I believe they euthanize about 1,500 and so we're [1:27:31] all we're almost to that point and so just bringing awareness is kind of [1:27:36] important. They are um euthanizing dogs that can't be adopted because of [1:27:41] aggressiveness is what they what they're saying. Um so [1:27:45] anyway, just bringing that up. And there's another rabies clinic coming up. [1:27:48] I apologize I don't have the dates in front of me. Um there's another rabies [1:27:51] clinic coming up. Um they've been coming to the farmers market with dogs as well [1:27:55] trying to get some dogs adopted out. Of course they need volunteers [1:28:00] um at the shelter and so it's pretty much it for animal services. [1:28:05] » Okay. Thank you for your reports. >> Yes. Met uh last Wednesday mayor and uh [1:28:13] you if anybody's noticed there there were two I think they've gone back now [1:28:17] but there were two new buses in the parking lot over there. they had to send [1:28:21] them back because of things that were left out that uh that they are back in. [1:28:27] They will not be getting any new vehicles that aren't already pre-ordered [1:28:32] this year because none of them met the mileage. [1:28:36] » Um [1:28:39] trying to think they are fully staffed which is [1:28:44] very good. And [1:28:49] there was there was Mr. Bran and I had had a discussion [1:28:54] about something that it sounds like that the county may say [1:28:59] that not not the position I have on the patch board but any position it uh like [1:29:05] Mr. Brand is a representative of the Chamber of Commerce that those type [1:29:11] positions are not going to allow elected officials to occupy those spots more [1:29:16] than likely. They hadn't been completely voted on yet, but that is a possibility [1:29:21] that u that that won't be allowed anymore. But but the city members, the [1:29:27] city role on there and the county role on there will will remain. While I'm [1:29:31] going, mayor, I'll go ahead and do um education foundation. We we did meet [1:29:35] today. >> Okay. [1:29:36] » Uh the new director uh Sherry Crabtree uh led led the meeting today. [1:29:45] Um and we'll be starting the fundraising [1:29:49] for everything for this year. Last year we g [1:29:54] it was overund 101,000 and some dollars in scholarships and it'll be at least [1:29:59] that much again this year if not more and hopefully more. There'll be more [1:30:03] stuff coming out about ways that the community can assist in that and as far [1:30:08] as applying for scholarships as well. >> That' be good. [1:30:12] Okay, Mr. Phillips, you got three avenues. [1:30:17] » Well, Chief's association did meet [1:30:26] just went over some [1:30:32] 911 issue, CAD issues, PCC classes, [1:30:40] talked about the September 11th cruise in and personality discussing. [1:30:49] Nothing earthshattering came out of it. But she had anything to add to that, [1:30:54] Chief Toad. [1:31:00] And then Rama, I guess I'm going to have to talk to to Larry to see if he's ever [1:31:05] going to meet again. >> But [1:31:09] what was the third one? >> Carter. [1:31:14] » Cartar. We did have one meeting [1:31:19] in July. [1:31:25] Fortunately, it was a remote meeting and I thought I even sent [1:31:30] her. Diane Cox is is to me an amazing [1:31:35] administrator. She gave a report that anybody would be [1:31:39] proud of. Concise, right to the point and just [1:31:45] which was given a report of all activities going on within not just [1:31:49] person county. [1:31:53] Mayell was Harper Person County Senior Center was on there to to give a [1:32:02] report. Apparently they and I'll tell this story because when [1:32:08] she was done, one of the council members, [1:32:12] I think it was one of the cartur staff asked her to tell of a situation that [1:32:16] she she had I guess orchestrated. There was one of the [1:32:24] members, I guess, some old person like me that was a regular there didn't show [1:32:30] up for a couple of days. >> Oh, yeah. I heard this story. [1:32:35] » Oh, did you? >> Mhm. [1:32:38] » Did you follow up on that, Chief? >> Yes, sir. [1:32:41] » Well, they went to the house cuz she was just [1:32:45] concerned. And so the short story of it was they called the police and then they [1:32:52] they couldn't get in or wouldn't get in or whatever, but when they left or [1:32:57] whatever, they contacted the owner of the house. They got permission to break [1:33:00] in. Found a lady lying in the bathroom. They've been there for a couple of days [1:33:06] and they were able to get her. She was she's alive. She wasn't well at that. [1:33:12] » She's still in the hospital. >> She's still in the hospital. I talked to [1:33:14] May one day last week, but she just had one of those gut [1:33:20] feelings that something was wrong, you know, [1:33:24] prescriptions that hadn't been picked up, notifications, wouldn't answer the [1:33:28] phone or whatever. >> But you want to give a little follow up [1:33:33] on that? >> So, I did look into the matter. There [1:33:38] was some information shared on scene that diminished the [1:33:48] gentleman that showed up on scene was aware that she was supposed to or would [1:33:52] normally be with a friend at [1:34:01] that [1:34:12] But she wouldn't let it go. It just >> That's good. [1:34:16] » Yep. >> That's good. Have you heard anything for [1:34:21] a nominee for from the council for Carter? [1:34:26] » I haven't. I don't know if staff has done anything. If y'all want to nominate [1:34:32] somebody, that's fine. >> We did two big ones a couple years ago. [1:34:36] Um, >> yeah. [1:34:38] » I know we did one last year. >> Yeah. And we did. Yeah. [1:34:42] » I I think they're looking for anything right now. [1:34:46] » Okay. [1:34:51] » Okay. Miss uh Mayor Pro Tim. >> Hello. Um, no, I did not attend the [1:34:57] meeting. I am currently >> in the process [1:35:02] » of um RGR for my store. But with that being [1:35:08] said, I do want to say that McDonald's will be a personality. We will have [1:35:12] Grimace out there um giving kids some treats and stuff. So October 3rd, [1:35:22] » man, they're coming to see if I'm doing a good job. [1:35:25] » Oh, [1:35:29] do we need to go down there and have a rally or something for you? [1:35:32] » Yeah, absolutely. Come on, Chief. if you come to [1:35:35] » I got you back. >> I know. That's right. Always [1:35:38] » I work undercover down there. [1:35:42] » We also have coffee with a cop coming up with y'all too in October. [1:35:47] So, I'll let y'all know more about that when I know more about it. [1:35:52] » Okay. >> I believe it's October 8th. [1:35:56] » Okay, Councilman Brian. >> All right. So, just uh quick couple [1:36:00] things just as a reminder. We talked about the museum event that is this [1:36:04] Saturday from 10 to 2 I believe afterward there's also a cruise in [1:36:08] uptown >> correct. So it's going to be a fun field [1:36:12] day up town with a lot not as much parking as usual. Um so just be aware of [1:36:17] that. Plan accordingly. So um for the chamber just a brief update on the [1:36:22] chamber. September 11th uh from 6:00 to 7:00. This is just in our notes from our [1:36:26] chamber board meeting. It's first county first responders memorial dedication. [1:36:30] September 12th from 11 to 12 is the Hillsstead farm ribbon cutting cutting [1:36:36] that we talked about. And what that is, if you don't know, it's more like an [1:36:38] aggra tourism farm to bring kids uh to pick pumpkins to uh enjoy all the [1:36:45] outdoor activities there. And I believe uh Miss uh Mayor Petty is going to be [1:36:49] representing us there. Um October 3rd is personality, of course. I [1:36:56] think most most of us all know that. Now, just as a reminder, the band will [1:37:00] not be Friday night. It will be Saturday evening in front of the courthouse. So, [1:37:04] that'll be pretty neat. Um, October 16th, there's from 1 to 2, there's a [1:37:11] house of I think it's Phil Empowers. I don't know if anybody's heard of that [1:37:16] yet. Anyway, it's a ribbon cutting. I just got the invitation for it. And then [1:37:22] I know it's far out uh but November 12th 5 to 10 is the annual uh bingo night for [1:37:29] the chamber which is one of the uh largest fundraisers the chamber puts on [1:37:33] annually which is going to be at the Carolina state. [1:37:37] » Okay. >> It's usually a good time. [1:37:39] » Yeah. And I didn't uh have a meeting with the senior citizens so I didn't [1:37:45] have anything I don't have anything to report. Uh anything for council [1:37:49] discussion? Mayor, I did have one thing to point out. I received an email this [1:37:54] afternoon from uh uh [1:37:59] County Commissioner Wilburn uh related to leadership summit. They have [1:38:04] scheduled a meeting on October 29th [1:38:10] and they have not set a time or location at this time. But that again is um [1:38:18] the joint meeting similar to what we did last year with the housing summit and we [1:38:22] did the other one. So that is again the EDC is reaching out to us about so just [1:38:27] mark on your calendar the 29th. >> Okay. [1:38:30] » At this point no location or time has been determined. [1:38:32] » That's October 29th. >> October 29th. I imagine it would be in [1:38:36] the evening. >> Do you have any do you have any updates [1:38:41] on oneonone person court? I believe it's Heritage Circle Apartments. [1:38:47] » Uh yes. Um so our code enforcement has investigated some complaints. Um so [1:38:59] that is person court essentially that's right [1:39:03] behind um Roxboro Housing Authority, but it is a it is a privately managed uh [1:39:08] public housing community there. Um they have they had an issue where their mower [1:39:13] broke. So they did have high grass and there's been some Facebook social media. [1:39:17] There have been some complaints about some issues inside some of the the the [1:39:21] residents. Actually spoke with Mayor Pro Tim about this earlier this last week. [1:39:26] Um but we have case three cases active investigations that are open with our [1:39:31] code enforcement officer. They have been directed to mow their grass and I [1:39:35] believe they were making a due effort to try to do to address that. Uh, as far as [1:39:39] the individual units, um, you know, we do have to be let into those units. So, [1:39:44] the the complaintant needs to get allow us access in order to document. But what [1:39:49] ultimately rises to a true minimum housing standard there there has to be [1:39:54] there's a state definition for that. Uh, and it appears what they're talking [1:39:58] about would not necessarily rise to that. Uh, but the property manager has [1:40:02] been notified of all the concerns uh, with the expectation that they would [1:40:06] address them. [1:40:10] There's nothing to find them for at this point. They have So, everybody has due [1:40:14] process when we notice people of a violation, but first we have to find a [1:40:17] violation. So, there there is a process. They have due process just like anyone [1:40:22] else. Um, and they've been given their notice on their grass. They clearly are [1:40:26] in violation there. So, the process goes like this. We tell them your grass is in [1:40:30] excess of 12 in. We send a code enforcer. The code enforcer documents [1:40:35] it. They have an issue. they have an ability of time to resolve the issue [1:40:39] that then comes they have a hearing. Um then after that if they don't resolve [1:40:44] the issue then we start assessing fines and we'll actually get to the point [1:40:47] where we send someone over to mow it and then we'll bill them. If they don't take [1:40:51] the bill then we'll attach that as a lead to the property. So very convoluted [1:40:54] and that's just grass. The other two complaints aside um so no we have three [1:40:59] cases open. I think that's the best way to to leave that at this point. We've [1:41:03] heard the complaints and we have followed up on them accordingly. [1:41:06] Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. [1:41:09] » Who owns it? But we own that state. [1:41:20] » Yes. >> State. [1:41:22] » That is a state road. >> That's a state road. [1:41:24] » Yes, sir. >> Court Street. [1:41:28] Is that one of ours? Couple of rough spots on Court Street and I've had some [1:41:36] complaints about Reams Avenue. >> Remes is getting really bad. [1:41:40] » It's It's getting bad. >> Are we talking about the road? [1:41:43] » Yes, ma'am. >> But that is that is the state [1:41:46] » and that's a EMS uses that a lot too. >> You can land a plane on that. It's so [1:41:51] wide. >> We use send word to state, hey, what [1:41:58] y'all doing? What are you not doing? We know what [1:42:02] you're not doing. [1:42:06] » You want me to go talk to them? I'll be glad to. [1:42:09] » No, of course. We'll we've been notified of concern. We'll bring it to their [1:42:13] attention a question, but you can also talk to them that you're right. [1:42:17] » I report some ribb cutings that I've taken part of u the New Horizon Academy. [1:42:23] Uh August the 13th, August the 14th, quarantine physical therapy. August the [1:42:29] 16th, the person county intern nomination prayer vigil was held. August [1:42:35] 20th, the Roxboro Satma Awards annual awards banquet was held and our chief [1:42:41] toran was the recipient for the 2026 uh uh Satoma annual awards banquet. So [1:42:48] he's for his service that he does here. So I was proud to be there for that. [1:42:53] groundbreaking for Mayo and AJ Transport Services. Councilman Phillips and myself [1:42:58] was there for that. Roxboro Community School 20th anniversary [1:43:03] uh uh Councilman Bran Phillips and myself was there and um you were [1:43:10] » okay and u uh Councilman Phillips was the speaker for that occasion. and I've [1:43:16] attended the the Baker's uh boxing club celebration for the women's defense [1:43:21] class he had on September the 1. And on uh September the 4th, I saw Councilman [1:43:27] Brand and Council Cars for the Arts Eats and Beats and myself. We was celebrated [1:43:33] that. So that's all my activity. I saw your car, but I didn't see you. [1:43:40] » He was in the car. >> I was listening at the music and with [1:43:44] his daughter music. >> Yeah. [1:43:48] So, any other activities for the council? [1:43:51] » Mayor, and it may have been mentioned to Miss Robertson, but I did want her to [1:43:54] know we don't generally where we can't really take any action on something [1:43:58] that's in public comment, but it is under advisement and we will be looking [1:44:02] into your request. [1:44:05] » Yeah, that's we we just couldn't do that tonight, but we we will look into that. [1:44:12] » We we've written it I've got it written down. [1:44:14] » Yeah. I just wanted you to know that we didn't just listen and not [1:44:21] » Oh, you I'm surprised you stayed this long. [1:44:26] And when you was looking at somebody else, I thought you looking at me and I [1:44:31] start [1:44:36] » where those streets are. I ask [1:44:41] » you the council discussion [1:44:47] » here. None. Uh we now going into close session for North Carolina's general [1:44:54] statute 143.318.186 [1:44:59] for personnel. Can I get a motion? >> I I'll make a motion we go to close [1:45:03] session. >> Okay. [1:45:04] » Second. >> Okay. Been motion proper second. We go [1:45:07] into close session. >> Two minutes. [1:45:09] » I'll make the note that there is no action for council to take after this [1:45:13] close session. So we'll simply reconvene in order to adjourn. But if anybody was [1:45:18] concerned about anything happening after the close session, there's no intention [1:45:21] to do so. >> Okay. Well, thank you so much. [1:45:32] » Come on. >> Yeah.