[0:03] Good to go. Thank you. [0:05] >> Okay. Looking about the table, I see the [0:07] presence of a board. [0:08] >> You can fold it in right like to call [0:10] the meeting to order. [0:12] With that said, come would you lead us [0:15] in education? Do that. Let us pray. [0:19] Heavenly Father, Lord, in Jesus name, we [0:21] thank you God for the day. First thing, [0:23] we appreciate you Lord. We thank you God [0:25] for helping us. And we do ask you Lord [0:27] to continue to guide us in the decisions [0:30] to be made for the town. We thank you [0:32] for our town Lord and again we want to [0:34] do our best for God again. So we will [0:37] give you the praise and honor in it God [0:40] because we know we need your wisdom to [0:42] be able to do the things right Jesus [0:45] name we pray. Amen. [0:48] >> Thank you sir. Let's all stand as we're [0:54] aliance to the flag of the United States [0:58] of America and to the republic for which [1:01] it stands. One nation under God, [1:05] indivisible with liberty and justice for [1:08] all. [1:15] Notice [1:17] supporting himself, not [1:21] either one of us fall down, y'all gather [1:23] up and help us up. [1:26] It'll be it'll be teamwork. [1:29] [laughter] [1:30] It's a shame to get old and [1:33] can't stand up. [1:36] >> Okay. None of you. [1:38] [laughter] [1:39] >> You still got your balance. T and I [1:41] lost. [1:43] Okay. We have before us either written [1:46] form or electronic approve of the [1:49] minutes from the previous meeting. So [1:51] I'd like to entertain a motion to [1:54] accept as presented or make changes as [1:57] needed. [1:58] >> Are are the names spelled correctly of [2:01] the guests uh Linda and Mr. Morel? [2:08] They [2:09] >> That's what they had on the signing [2:10] sheet. [2:19] » Look at her. [2:24] » Oh, they didn't. Um they came in late [2:26] and didn't [2:30] » Yeah. No, they're on here. Ward. [2:32] >> Yeah. [2:33] >> Oh, [2:34] >> they're on there. [2:36] The one I got, Linda was spelled L I N [2:39] A, I think. [2:41] >> Oh, [2:42] >> Linda wasn't spelled correctly. And I [2:44] don't think Morel spelled spelled [2:46] correctly. [2:51] » Okay. [2:53] Morel is spelled correctly. [2:56] >> Okay, [2:57] >> but Linda, we just left the D off. Easy [3:00] fix. [3:01] >> Easy fix. [3:03] Oh, I I sure hope that's the worst [3:05] mistake you ever made. [3:08] [laughter] [3:09] >> But you will be [3:12] dang [3:14] proof reading. [3:16] >> No, not [3:17] >> I I I I proof read them. [3:21] >> Okay. Don't entertain a motion to make [3:24] the changes as needed. So move second. [3:28] >> Okay. Any other discussion? [3:31] That's what I was like [3:35] for last. All those in favor accepting [3:37] your minutes with corrections, please [3:39] signify by stating I [3:42] >> on the same sign. [3:44] Minutes are approved. [3:48] Boy, crowd in here tonight. I don't know [3:51] whether we're going to get through it or [3:53] not. We'll be here all night. [3:56] >> That's it. Unless somebody's bad, we'll [3:59] do that. How about correspondence from [4:00] the town office? [4:02] >> No, sir. [4:04] >> Okay, [4:06] Derek, if you don't mind, turn it over [4:08] to Houston. [4:09] >> I had 17 calls for a month and I had one [4:12] arrest for shot and then you can see on [4:15] there that assaults and welfare checks, [4:20] couple mental health complaints. [4:22] Uh, also I put a flyer on on y'all's [4:25] desk for the 911 ceremony on the 13th of [4:29] September. [4:31] We'll be sharing that on our Facebook [4:33] page and [4:54] We uh I got a call just through [4:56] curiosity just for conversation sake [4:58] asking me who was his funeral home and I [5:01] looked it up. It was Jerry Buck. I don't [5:04] want anybody in here knows Jerry. I How [5:07] old was [5:10] >> Yeah. [5:12] >> Jerry I didn't realize until then they [5:14] were twins. [5:16] >> Both fine fellas both of them. That's [5:19] Charlie Buck's younger brother. But [5:22] anyway, Jerry had a lot of people. [5:25] >> It was [5:27] out there [5:30] who knows there's no park. [5:31] >> No getting in there. But I didn't I just [5:36] [clears throat] want to sort of bring [5:36] that up. I was like Jerry and Larry both [5:39] they used to they go everywhere we would [5:41] sing. See the B brothers. Okay. Any [5:46] other got correspondents from the town [5:48] council? [5:50] Okay, we've done the police report. [5:53] Anybody have any other questions for [5:55] Derek? [5:58] » All right, I'm checking off. [6:00] >> Terry, did you ask did you get a hold of [6:04] the person? I thought you did. Okay, [6:06] >> I did. [6:07] >> Okay. [6:08] >> And he texted me. I let him know the day [6:09] after I got a hold of him. Okay. He told [6:11] me he texted me and said he voted back. [6:13] >> He did. Thank you. [6:16] Excellent. Always nice to get results. [6:21] Okay, any other questions? If not, it's [6:24] just unfinished business and the [6:27] addition to town shop is something [6:29] probably skip over now that we can't pay [6:31] for it last. [6:31] >> Well, I disagree, Mr. [6:34] >> We can uh [6:36] >> we can move we can move we can move [6:38] money from reserves for that. [6:40] >> Okay. [6:41] >> Um [6:42] >> that's good. the the only procedural [6:44] thing I need to figure out and I I'll do [6:46] it with Locky um as well is if it's a [6:52] certain amount of the budget we have to [6:53] do a budget amendment. So I need to see [6:55] if we have to do a budget amendment to [6:57] move that money or if we can just I [6:59] don't I don't see it being close to [7:01] being [7:02] >> enough money for it to have to have a [7:05] budget amendment. But let me check on [7:07] that before we move the money. The money [7:10] was there because when the budget when [7:13] the new budget started the old budget [7:16] went into reserve what was left over [7:18] >> right [7:19] >> so the money was is there [7:22] >> it's just not earmarked in the budget [7:24] >> out of reserve [7:25] >> and put it in the next year's budget in [7:27] a sense [7:28] >> and pay for the new the addition to that [7:31] building [7:32] >> great I'm glad we may be able to get [7:34] that done that's wonderful [7:36] >> yes [7:39] height. So, you got to find out some [7:42] information. What about the Locust [7:44] Avenue water supply? [7:46] >> Uh VDH, [7:48] um [7:50] they sent me a uh permit to sign and [7:55] then all we're waiting on them is to [7:56] sign off on it. Um I'm meeting with the [7:59] engineer tomorrow at 2:00 to talk to [8:02] them and make sure we're ready to go on [8:04] that and then we'll bid it out. [8:08] Okay, any questions? [8:12] Okay, the whiff foundation grant, it's [8:15] been submitted. We're waiting on [8:16] approval. See if we got [8:20] money or not. [8:23] >> Okay, Dale, I need information in the [8:27] National. [8:28] >> I do. Um, the bridges are on board, so [8:33] they're going to open this up. Um, I'm [8:39] working with Pastor Vanover [8:43] and Jason is coming back from Maryland to give us the service if [8:51] he doesn't have a funeral to attend to. [8:53] and I'm going to get in touch with all [8:55] of the pastors in the community and [8:57] invite them all to attend. And then what [9:01] we'll do after this year is try to go on [9:03] a rotation and give every one of them [9:05] the opportunity to to do it. But I [9:08] thought [9:10] um Jason want to come back to town and [9:13] do it was a was a good thing. [9:16] >> You lose it. [9:19] Do [9:19] >> you need any funds for this? Is this [9:21] costing anything? [9:23] We are going to have to buy the um [9:27] materials from the National Day of [9:28] Prayer [9:30] Foundation that give us kind of the [9:33] guidelines to go by. And I would like to [9:38] have some funding somewhere to at least [9:41] buy dinner for Pastor McNees or maybe [9:43] pay for his room since he's driving all [9:45] the way from Maryland. [9:47] We can do that under undesated in the 10 [9:49] fund in the [9:51] >> How much how much do you think you you [9:54] need? You know what this material is [9:55] going to cost? [9:56] >> I don't know. They haven't released that [9:58] yet. And I would like to give the riches [10:00] something. Usually they give it back or [10:01] they take it and donate it to somebody, [10:03] but I I hate to ask them to play for [10:05] free all the time. [10:08] So I mean [10:09] >> $1,200 would be great. $1,500 whatever [10:14] you all feel fuel. [10:15] >> We have that. Do you want that to come [10:16] out of contributions? [10:18] >> However you [10:19] >> I mean that's what we do for civic [10:21] organizations and things like that. So [10:25] >> $1,200 $1,200. Perfect. [10:27] >> I move we allocate $1,200 out of [10:30] contributions to the National Day of [10:33] Prayer. [10:34] >> Second. [10:38] Great. [10:39] >> And have you heard anything about using [10:40] the depot from Mike Paul? [10:43] >> No, I haven't. Okay. [10:45] >> Um, so you do want the depot and not the [10:47] community center because we can block [10:49] either one off. [10:50] >> We were thinking about using the depot [10:53] and if it got too big just moving out [10:56] into the flat, but if you would rather [10:58] use the community you this is I'll do [11:01] whatever you want. [11:01] >> What does council think? I mean, what is [11:03] your all's opinion? [11:09] » I think the parking is a lot better at [11:11] the community center. It is parking's a [11:13] lot better and we own the building, [11:16] >> right? [11:18] >> So, it it's Thursday. First Thursday. [11:24] >> Yeah, it's on Thursday. So, you won't [11:26] have any trouble [11:29] with anybody booking it. [11:31] >> Well, I can tell you real quick. Y'all [11:33] go ahead and keep [11:35] I mean, I'm finding this place. It's And [11:38] you know, at at the community center, at [11:40] least we got you got the stage. So the [11:42] speakers are looking [11:44] >> out at the audience. [11:45] >> The parking is much better. [11:47] >> No. And that one year, I think the first [11:50] year Jack Weaver did it, we had to move [11:52] it inside there, didn't we? [11:54] >> Because it rained so much. [11:56] >> Yeah. [12:00] » On the on the subject of geek. [12:03] >> Mhm. [12:03] >> What's the date? [12:05] >> It's the first Thursday in May. [12:09] >> I think it would be appropriate It's [12:12] totally up to you. This is your show. [12:14] Uh, but Jack started that. [12:18] >> I think it'd be appropriate if Jack was [12:20] recognized in some way this year since [12:24] his passing. [12:25] >> I wanted to recognize Jack was like a [12:29] moment of silence. [12:30] >> Yeah. [12:30] >> Thanking him and leave a chair out of [12:33] the front row open for him. [12:34] >> Yeah. [12:36] >> It would be more than appropriate, I [12:38] think. Absolutely. Jack was he was very [12:40] instrumental in this. He really was [12:44] >> the first Thursday is the 6th in May. [12:47] The Lions Club has the Bailey room book, [12:49] but do you want me to reach out to them [12:50] and see if we can reschedu them to maybe [12:53] Tuesday? [12:55] >> If you want to check on it, that's fine. [12:56] >> Okay, [13:01] perfect. Good. Now, I've got a motion on [13:04] the floor to that allocate some money. [13:07] Everybody understand how much? And [13:10] $1,200. [13:12] Okay, motion [13:14] is none. That's uh all those in favor [13:18] making that allocation, please signify [13:20] by stating I post same sign. Okay, the [13:24] motion carries. Thank you. [13:27] Okay. [13:31] Is any other unfinished business we need [13:33] to cover? [13:36] Okay. Is there any new business? [13:41] Have one one more item left. May there [13:44] getting them knocked off here. Twice in [13:46] the last week I've been approached by [13:49] different citizens. [13:52] The subject is horse manure. [13:57] >> Grown apples. I got a text about it too. [14:01] You know, I don't know what we can do [14:03] about it, but [14:05] there is [14:09] people who are not happy with it. [14:14] » Do you know of any cuz you've been in [14:16] lots of parades. I know you have. You [14:18] don't know. [14:20] >> I think the horse, [14:22] don't they? [14:23] >> It's considered a ve I mean, you can do [14:26] in Virginia still [14:27] >> got the right away and the roads. I [14:29] mean, [14:31] >> well, you know, I don't I'm not [14:32] concerned about the traffic. The primary [14:36] thing that I'm getting is the horse [14:38] manure. [14:43] » Is there any way that they can I know in [14:46] some places there is I don't know what [14:49] you call it, but they put [14:51] >> the hood on. [14:53] >> Yeah, [14:55] >> you can, but I [14:56] >> I'm sure that's that's probably [14:58] technology to them. I'm sure they [15:00] wouldn't do it. [15:00] >> Wouldn't do it. [15:03] >> Can Can [15:05] we maybe inquire from uh [15:09] >> No state no statewide law in Virginia [15:12] makes it illegal for a horse to leave [15:14] manure on a public road while being [15:16] ridden. [15:17] >> I mean, I looked at [15:20] that. I wasn't aware that that's an [15:23] answer we can give to them. [15:24] >> Yeah, it's there. It's actually still [15:27] considered mode of transportation [15:32] » fuel. [15:35] >> Looks like oil come falling out of here. [15:37] [laughter] [15:39] » The same thing as gas leaking. [15:43] >> I'll just say this and [15:46] if there's nothing we can do at the end [15:47] of the day, but it would be nice if we [15:50] could reach out to that community and [15:52] tell them, you know, we we have a [15:54] concern here. [15:56] and see [15:57] >> you got the goal [15:58] >> kind of kind of see what their response [16:00] is. Of course, we're not let them [16:03] >> just at least let them understand that [16:05] it's a problem for some. [16:07] I don't I don't think that's too uh too [16:10] much to ask or anybody concern about [16:13] that is if they decide to do something [16:15] about it and they have it happen and [16:17] they're trying to clean up and somebody [16:19] gets run over. Well, well, that then [16:22] you're going to be holding up traffic to [16:24] clean it up. [16:25] >> That's that that's part of the [16:26] conversation we at least have. In my [16:28] opinion, it's not fair for us to sit [16:30] here and say, "There's another we do, It's all done. It's over [16:34] or whatever without even engaging them [16:36] and trying to come out. [16:39] So, can we not just [16:42] on the book to do something about it? [16:44] What can you do about it?" [16:46] >> Yeah, [16:48] >> that's the point. No, the point is is [16:51] that they may or may not even perceive [16:54] it as a problem. [16:55] >> Well, I'm sure they don't. That's their [16:57] mode of transportation. [16:58] >> No, need. [17:00] >> I'm just saying. [17:02] >> And it's legal. [17:03] >> And there's no one that lives in the [17:05] town limits. [17:08] To me, it wouldn't be unreasonable to [17:10] ask to sit down and talk to somebody. [17:12] >> I mean, I think that's [17:15] >> it. Don't give it don't give a code [17:16] section, but I'll figure out what it is [17:18] for you. [17:22] » I talk to I've I've been to and talked [17:25] to the [17:28] >> kind of the head guy and I mean he I [17:30] mean he just has to get with his [17:33] >> Yeah. I mean I [17:36] >> I mean at one point [17:39] I think [17:41] council member Lewis [17:43] had given me the name of a parish in or [17:47] >> in Illinois and I had called [17:49] >> and they had so many uh Amish in [17:53] community in there that they had bought [17:54] a special truck just to ride the roads [17:57] and and clean that up. Um that's not [18:01] something I think's feasible for the [18:02] town. [18:05] No, but although may not make the [18:08] record, but this we don't have all the [18:12] going to. [18:13] >> Yeah, [18:14] >> not yet. [18:17] Okay, that's sort of under new business. [18:21] Anything other we can think will have [18:24] any effect? [18:27] Apparently, it's had somebody to [18:29] approach me [18:33] on the [18:35] apparently they're spraying the corn. [18:38] Does anybody know anything about that? [18:43] >> bottomly [18:44] >> bottom le [18:46] >> um we dealt with this issue [18:49] uh with a concerned citizen on [18:51] Pin Avenue. [18:52] >> Yes. [18:53] >> Um [18:55] >> two years ago. [18:57] uh [18:57] >> from the side that's [18:59] >> and at that point I had called they all [19:03] they have all get permits through the [19:05] county to do anything they do. Um and [19:08] all of these have MSDS sheets that are [19:12] approved through the state of Virginia. [19:13] They have a database that shows approved [19:15] and unapproved pesticides, herbicides, [19:18] all those things. Um and I talked to a [19:21] guy, I can't remember his name, but I [19:23] can reach back out to him if you'd like [19:24] for me to. Um, and they go through with [19:27] Bottomly about every place that they do. [19:29] And it's not just Bottomly, it's several [19:31] other farms around that use these sprays [19:34] on their on their uh crops. And nothing [19:38] that they're doing from what I can [19:40] understand and from the MSDS sheets that [19:42] they're using is breaking any kind of [19:45] law or [19:47] what they're what they're what they're [19:48] saying is causing any health related [19:50] effects. [19:51] >> They said they couldn't breathe. [19:54] I mean, I'm just [19:56] >> They have to be spray helicopter now, [19:58] aren't they? [19:59] >> Yeah. [20:00] >> We I saw the helicopter. [20:03] >> I I actually went and talked to the guy [20:05] that runic and he said he's got all his [20:08] permits, [20:09] everything. [20:12] >> And I mean, and [clears throat] [20:12] personally, I was pretty pretty I'm not just I'm just saying I was close [20:18] to the helicopter and where it was and I [20:21] had no trouble with this. And you were [20:23] right there underneath it, right? [20:25] >> Yeah, I went. He landed right there [20:27] where I was at top to me. I ran over [20:29] top. [20:33] I And I might be wrong with this. I told [20:37] them if maybe they could see what they [20:40] were spraying. I mean, the MS DS sheets. [20:43] >> Did they turn them into the county? [20:45] >> Yeah. I told them they [20:47] >> I think I know the situation you're [20:49] talking about. Um, and I had dealt with [20:53] this before, but I'll be glad to reach [20:55] back out and I actually think that I got [20:58] copies of the MSDS sheets a couple years [21:00] ago, but I I can't I can't remember if [21:03] that's 100% true, but I can reach back [21:05] out to the county and see at least make [21:08] sure that they've got their permit for [21:09] the spring there. [21:14] » Okay. [21:16] All right. Is there any other new [21:18] business? [21:20] All right, let's go to committee reports [21:24] under finance and appropriation. Do you [21:26] have any reporting there? [21:29] >> I read this. [21:30] >> No, [21:32] she I I'm just going to say this. This [21:34] could this could go under this or [21:36] personnel. Locky's done a really good [21:39] job. She came in at a time when she had [21:42] to do a lot of stuff for the auditors. [21:44] Uh she's done she's I think you've got [21:47] everything sent right [21:48] >> except for the invoices. [21:49] >> She's got everything that they needed [21:51] that she submitted today uh to for them. [21:54] We called them explained we had a new [21:56] treasurer. They were they were really I [21:59] think they were really helpful and [22:00] understanding you know that we had some [22:02] hurdles to get over and and and they've [22:05] helped and we we've been able to uh [22:08] overcome any of the issues that we've [22:10] had. The hardest part she's had is just [22:12] getting all these people to switch her [22:13] over into an administration role and get [22:16] passwords changed and and and things [22:18] like that cuz sometimes they need [22:20] something on letterhead and whatever. [22:22] But I'd also like to give and I think [22:24] Locky would agree with me. I'd like to [22:26] give Carolyn Mooney a shout out. She's [22:30] really went above and beyond um to to [22:34] help with the transition. Uh we knew it [22:36] wasn't going to be easy. Um, and it's [22:39] had our it's had its obstacles. Um, but [22:43] Carolyn has really really stepped up. [22:45] Um, and if you guys, you know, wanted to [22:48] give her a gift certificate or [22:50] something, you know, I think that would [22:52] be because she really has, she's got a [22:55] job to do, but she's also stepped up and [22:58] the things that she knows how to do in [23:00] the system that that Locky was kind of, [23:04] you know, hit or miss on. Maybe she can [23:07] speak to it better than I can, but I've [23:08] seen her be a really, really big help in [23:11] the transition and what's going on. [23:15] Yeah, just navigating the, [23:18] >> you know, if you're going [23:19] >> big enough, it's hard to find some [23:21] things, I guess, [23:22] >> right? From a doll system to web-based, [23:25] you know, you're just learning a new [23:27] processing system. and she showed me [23:30] where to look for things, how to pull [23:31] reports [23:33] and um she had a lot of notes that [23:36] Monica had showed her some things on and [23:38] she shared that with me and she's stood [23:42] right beside me or she's grabbed the [23:44] mouse and she's clicked and I've [23:46] watched. [23:47] So, she really has [23:50] been a great help to me. [23:54] Okay. [23:57] You going to just put the for personnel [23:59] or the same kind of been the same. Do we [24:02] need to do something for her? You want [24:04] us to do something? [24:05] >> That's completely up to you. I I think [24:07] she deserves it. [24:08] >> Okay. [24:09] >> All right. [24:10] I'll make a suggestion. [24:11] >> I'll get I'll suggest I'll make a motion [24:15] just for discussion about a $100 gift [24:19] card to the job plan. All is fair. Give [24:22] that. [24:24] >> There's your motion. I'll second. [24:25] Okay, we've done that. Now, any [24:27] discussion? That's great. I appreciate [24:29] it. [24:33] » Would you take care of that for us? [24:35] >> Absolutely. [24:35] >> Between the two of you? I have a [24:37] question. Yes. Does it have to be the job of [24:40] >> I I can I'll leave it to the manager's [24:43] discussion. [24:44] >> How about that? [24:45] >> Do we have to specify any place? Can you [24:48] just [24:50] say [24:52] >> a place a place that she that she [24:56] >> Yes. [24:56] >> You want to be nice to me? [24:58] >> I just She's went above and beyond by [25:02] far. Um, and I just think she deserves [25:05] it. And [25:07] >> let me just make a suggestion. Just [25:09] before you get her, ask her [25:12] >> what she [25:13] >> That's what I was going to do. Yeah. [25:16] >> Okay. [25:18] Have a motion second. Any further [25:21] discussion? [25:23] Okay. All those in favor of the motion, [25:24] please signify by stating I post. Same [25:28] sign. [25:29] >> Gift card to Roar Treat Farmers Market. [25:32] [laughter] [25:40] Dale got something to us about this part [25:42] of Heritage Day. I have um some riders [25:46] coming in [25:48] and I'm trying to review some stuff to [25:50] see what we've got pricewise and [25:53] different things. So, [25:56] it's never too early to get it figured [25:58] out, but I think it's going to come [26:00] together pretty easily now. But, we have [26:03] the sound guys booked again and all that [26:06] stuff's all squared away. So, I'm going [26:09] to start working on the other stuff. [26:12] The biggest part, the hardest part is [26:13] getting to the main act. [26:16] They get them to commit. They always [26:19] want [26:20] they don't want to put their eggs in one [26:22] basket till the last minute. That [26:24] doesn't help us much. But anyway, [26:26] >> but you can get them cheaper if you cook [26:27] them now. [26:28] >> Well, that's exactly right. [26:31] >> Around it. [26:31] >> Yeah. [26:33] So, what you know what you're doing. So, [26:39] » no. [26:44] who have ever thought [26:47] to birth [clears throat] Betty White. [26:49] >> Mhm. [26:49] >> Yeah. [26:54] » Okay. Thank you, Dale, for that. Any [26:57] other committee reports we need to [27:00] >> mural? [27:01] >> Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I got ahead of [27:04] myself. Has anybody noticed that it's [27:06] partially done? I've been going down [27:09] every day. [27:11] >> I've been going down in the evenings, [27:12] too. [27:13] >> It's It's sort of amazing, you know, how [27:16] he does it. He cuz that's what he does. [27:19] >> It's kind of fun to watch all kind [27:21] >> Well, the good thing about it is it's [27:22] went from mural planning to mural [27:25] construction. [27:26] >> Yeah, construction mirror completion. [27:29] >> But it is it is amazing how and he's [27:32] kind of started in the back and you can [27:34] see the sky and then over here you can [27:36] see the sunset. It's it's it's going to [27:38] be something something good. [27:40] >> We're going to have a show piece and [27:42] that it's one. Okay. I apologize for [27:46] skipping that. Thank you for [27:48] now. Is there any other committee? [27:52] Okay. [27:54] Jason. [27:55] >> Okay. Um quite a bit on the downtown [27:57] revitalization. Uh [28:00] spoke to the contractor. Um, of course [28:03] the weather's been up and down here [28:04] lately and uh the guy that's doing the [28:06] concrete, they had to induce uh his wife [28:10] into labor, but uh I think all that's [28:13] straightened out. um within the next [28:17] month, couple weeks, uh he's going to [28:21] uh complete the pouring of the concrete [28:23] for the sidewalks and the foundation for [28:25] the gazebo and flag pole and all the [28:29] other adjoining uh uh sidewalks and [28:32] walkways from the splash pad to the [28:34] playground to the farmers market and [28:36] into the main building where the [28:38] bathrooms are. Um they're al they next [28:41] week they'll also be raising um the drop [28:44] inlet uh that we were worried about [28:47] that's that's low to the ground. Next [28:49] week they'll be pulling it up uh ground [28:51] level um and put a smaller grade on top [28:54] so there won't be any fall hazards there [28:57] and it'll keep us from having to put up [28:59] anything that number one we have to pay [29:02] for and number two is not as attractive [29:04] as it would be if he does raise it up. [29:06] Um, and I think I think he's doing the [29:09] right thing there. I think that's a [29:11] really really good idea. Um, [29:14] and then uh he said once the muralist [29:17] has completed the painting, they will [29:18] start doing the awning coming off of the [29:21] building on the the north side over the [29:24] concrete area where there will [29:25] eventually be seating um underneath the [29:28] mural and then the awning on on that [29:30] site. Um, [29:33] another thing, and I reached out to the [29:35] county today, and this is going to be a [29:37] question that I don't know if you want [29:39] to answer now or just wait and and see, [29:43] but is when we're going to shut the [29:44] splash pad down. Generally, things go [29:48] from Memorial Day to Labor Day, [29:51] but also there's going to be days, in my [29:54] opinion, in September when it could [29:56] probably be used. October, maybe not. [29:59] September. [30:00] I just think we're going to get some [30:01] kickback. It it probably won't get used [30:04] as much in the evening because it's [30:06] going to cool off more. But I don't [30:08] think that the Labor Day date might or might not be the right time to [30:14] shut down the splash pad because a lot [30:16] of times in the month of September [30:18] during the day it gets up to 80° se high [30:21] 70s and we can decide what what you want [30:24] to do with that. that I I reached out to [30:26] the county to see, and I'll be honest, I [30:28] did that today. I haven't heard back [30:31] because on their website, they don't [30:33] have an official date that they're going [30:34] to shut the pool down. I didn't know if [30:36] y'all wanted to coincide with the [30:38] shutdown of the pool or if you wanted to [30:40] give, you know, on into September to [30:42] make a decision because, in my opinion, [30:44] like I said, there are going to be warm [30:46] days in September where people are going [30:48] to want to use that splash pad. So, [30:51] >> I think the county has always shut the [30:53] pool down too early. People have [30:55] complained about that for years. [30:58] >> Well, I mean, the good thing about it is I mean, [31:00] >> all we got to do is get in there and [31:02] turn a lever and put something on [31:03] Facebook saying, "We left out there, [31:06] they won't turn it turned on, so you [31:08] don't really going to lose by leaving [31:10] it, [31:10] >> right? [31:10] >> Just use your judgment about that. Does [31:12] that mean letting somebody [31:13] >> But I mean I I would like to have to [31:16] announce a date at some point in time to [31:19] where you know they know well this is [31:21] it. They they told us this was coming [31:23] instead of getting down there and [31:25] figuring out that it's not working one [31:27] day. [31:27] >> Is the pool at the lake is it having a [31:31] problem right now? [31:34] >> Something about [31:34] >> I think it [31:38] I don't know. I have I haven't heard any [31:40] comp starting earlier than it used to. [31:44] Labor Day was always we shut down later. [31:49] >> Memorial Day was iffy because a lot of [31:52] time was cold. [31:53] >> Yeah. [31:53] >> It was [31:55] >> we have a lot a lot more flexibility [31:57] with the splash pad than you do with the [31:58] pool. [31:59] >> Yeah. [31:59] >> Because it's only getting used it's only [32:01] getting used when somebody's down there. [32:04] But, you know, the point I'm getting at [32:06] is the contractor wants that to be shut [32:09] down before he comes in to try to do the [32:11] pavilion because that's going to cause a [32:14] safety hazard cuz he doesn't want kids [32:15] going in and out of that splash pad [32:17] while while they're trying to erect and, [32:19] you know, nails being dropped and stuff [32:21] like that. So, that's something that I [32:23] think we can we can plan for [32:26] as we go along. Um, and then make a [32:29] decision. But I I don't in my this is [32:31] just my opinion as somebody who goes [32:34] down there on a regular basis. I think [32:36] it'll get used in September more than a [32:38] swimming pool would. [32:41] Um [32:43] uh also when that happens, that's when [32:45] the parking will be put in and the [32:48] lighting portion. and we had talked back [32:50] and forth and I we can talk as a council [32:54] about there's a bunch of styles of of [32:57] lights, pole lights that can be put up [33:00] down there whether we want hanging [33:02] basket ones or things like that. we can [33:04] cross that road. But um cuz he did [33:07] mention that to me when I talked to him. [33:08] But the lighting will be a portion of [33:10] the project after splash pad shut down. [33:13] So they wouldn't have any problem with. [33:15] Of course, the playground still going to [33:16] be open, but you know, it'll be less [33:18] traffic for them to have to work around [33:19] and and uh less danger for for the the [33:23] citizens. [33:25] Um [33:26] >> question. [33:26] >> Yes, sir. Is there going to be any [33:28] conflict with the sidewalks [33:32] and underground wiring? [33:36] >> No. [33:38] Okay. Not that he's brought to my [33:40] attention and I've talked to him about all of it. [33:43] >> Okay. And I don't know if I had [33:46] mentioned, but that one sidewalk that he [33:49] has laid out now, if you'll notice, [33:51] there's I think I may have talked about [33:53] this. There's a space in between kind of [33:55] where the drainage goes to the detention [33:57] pond. That's going to be a bridge going [33:59] over it. So, it'll be a walkway to a [34:02] bridge back to the walkway. [34:04] Um, [34:07] farmers market. We've scheduled two [34:08] Friday events. I don't know if this is [34:11] smart or not smart, but we'll figure it [34:13] out. I think my initial idea was that it [34:16] would be a good thing, but Leslie wanted [34:18] to do them on September 18th and October [34:21] 16th based on the fact that September [34:23] 18th is a is homecoming weekend for the [34:26] Friday football game. So that'd be more [34:29] people in town possibly to push more [34:32] people toward the farmers market. And [34:34] then October 16th is also the date of [34:37] another home football game. So, um, if [34:41] we're going to give it a try, let's give it a try. The only thing that [34:44] I do see that may be a problem with the [34:46] 18th, and I can probably lean on you [34:49] with this, if we don't want to make that [34:51] an official date, is parking at the [34:54] farmers market with the parade. [34:57] >> They do the parade in the middle of the [34:59] week now. [35:01] >> Yeah, the parade's usually on Wednesday. [35:04] >> Okay. [35:05] Then that won't be an issue. Well, [35:07] then that won't be an issue. For some [35:08] reason, I was thinking it was on the [35:09] same Friday as the game. [35:13] >> Um, yeah, back in the good old days. [35:15] >> Yeah. [35:16] >> Uh, the splash pad signs have been [35:18] ordered. I ordered them exactly like [35:20] Chill Howie had done. Um, just changed, [35:23] you know, some of the the signage as far [35:26] as what Chillh Howi had for them. They [35:28] were 270 a piece for two signs. Um, and [35:32] I went ahead and ordered two of them for [35:34] each gate that goes into the splash pad. [35:36] So, whichever way you go in, you do know [35:40] they're aluminum. Um, they recommended [35:44] doing 3M coating on it because it would [35:46] last a lot longer and wouldn't wouldn't [35:48] fade as the the sun and and years go on. [35:51] So, those have been ordered through [35:53] Smart Signs, which is who show how he [35:54] got theirs through. [35:56] Uh, spoke to the pickle ball contractor. [35:59] the materials have been ordered um and [36:02] have yet to come in. Uh we are scheduled [36:05] to be on his uh to get his guys down [36:08] here. Uh but they're waiting on the [36:11] materials to come in. They're also doing [36:13] a couple projects right now. One [36:15] sidewalk project and the other one is a [36:16] pickle ball. And he said he would also [36:19] price lighting and basketball courts [36:21] while he's while he's down there doing [36:22] it, but I have not got that quote yet. [36:27] Uh the water plant uh the Philipp [36:29] Springs water plant is running [36:30] efficiently and the town has figured out [36:33] which you know we did have a utility [36:35] committee meeting uh but I just did want [36:37] to touch on some of our water [36:38] accountability issues that have occurred [36:41] in the past. um with the age of Tony Ror [36:45] who is from Virginia rule water. Uh he [36:48] came down here we uh we actually have a [36:52] uh a term contract with them where they [36:55] come down and find leaks for us if we're [36:56] having trouble. Uh and he came down no [36:59] charge to us. Of course we do have a fee that we pay them in dues. Um, [37:05] but we did find some differences in our [37:08] numbers that we were reporting for our [37:10] water accountability and uh, we fixed [37:13] some of those issues and it's brought [37:15] our water accountability down and in [37:17] some instances as much as 20% down. Um, [37:24] phase 12 of the sidewalk project, uh, [37:30] I'm sure most of y'all know what I'm [37:32] talking about. the issue that we're [37:35] having with this project and really they [37:38] said that they had ran this through most [37:41] of their uh [37:45] most of the other project managers in [37:47] the throughout the state of Virginia and [37:49] this is something that they've never [37:51] really ran across and that is that [37:54] entrance into the lodge building [37:56] which makes that right there not ADA [37:59] compliant. [38:01] So, what we're trying to figure out is a [38:02] way to get around [38:07] that entrance. Um, because, you know, [38:10] obviously the building has to have an [38:12] entrance, but the entrance is theirs [38:14] now, is keeping our sidewalk project [38:17] from being 100% ADA compliant, which [38:21] they will not fund a project that is not [38:23] 100% ADA compliant. Now, there are some [38:26] options um that we've tal I talked about [38:30] in the meeting that I had with the uh [38:33] the engineer and VOTE representatives. [38:37] Uh and there's some options that that we [38:40] want to look at and they're going to [38:40] make a recommendation on which one they [38:42] want to go with. Um [38:45] but that is something we're working on. [38:47] And the big hold up on this has been how [38:51] to handle that one entrance because it's [38:53] something that even the most senior [38:55] project managers had never ran into. Um, [38:58] and it may be something that we have to [38:59] get, you know, a contingency of the [39:02] people [39:04] ownership of that building together and go over and find out what's the [39:08] proper way to handle the situation [39:11] because like I said, obviously they have [39:12] to have an entrance, but you know, do [39:14] they want to move the sidewalk out? do [39:16] they want to tear it down? And there's [39:18] just just options that we don't know [39:20] what the answer to is yet. Um [39:26] uh then the last thing I have um is [39:31] there's another joint meeting Monday, [39:34] August the 31st [39:36] uh at the Wiffville [39:39] uh meeting center. [39:45] That's all I have unless you have any [39:47] questions. [39:47] >> 7 o'clock, right? [39:50] >> Got an email today. [39:53] I'll get that for you in just a minute. [39:55] >> I think it's [39:59] » um I will I will say this as well. Uh [40:02] just in case uh anybody complains, I [40:06] I'll let them know that that I'm the one [40:08] that did it. Uh there was a lot of signs [40:13] in the rightway that are not there now. [40:16] Um [clears throat] [40:18] if anybody complains that they don't [40:21] have their signs, they are stored at the [40:23] town shop. [40:24] Um and I also talked to a couple people [40:27] about mowing into the road and they said [40:31] they would remedy the situation, but [40:32] we'll keep an eye on that. [40:37] You ever found out through [40:41] >> teleport? He I called him twice this [40:43] week and he still ain't called me back. [40:55] » Mr. [40:57] Have we g ever gi Have we ever given any [41:01] more thought to purchasing the lodge [41:05] building? [41:06] >> No, sir. It's never been brought up, but [41:08] it's not something, you know, any time. [41:14] >> I will say, Mr. Lewis, that that was one [41:17] of the options that was talked about. [41:22] I think it's that it deserves [41:25] consideration. [41:28] Um, [41:33] I don't think we should I think we [41:36] should make an offer [41:39] or at least consult [41:42] with the owners of that building to see [41:46] what [41:48] arrangements could be made for purchase. [41:53] I think it would I I think it would [41:55] benefit us [41:58] to own that piece of property if we're [42:02] going to have an event center next door. [42:07] I I don't think there's much we could do [42:09] with the property [42:11] other than demolish the building to make [42:14] a park. [42:17] I think we should give that some [42:19] consideration. [42:21] Would [42:23] you like for me to reach out to an [42:24] appraiser? [42:26] >> Would you like for me to reach out to [42:28] stepping in here? That's ain't going to [42:30] be no problem to ask right now. Then the master of the lodge is sitting [42:35] beside me here. So, let's He's right. [42:40] Bob's right. Let's Let's [42:42] get that out. What they got to have and [42:44] all that. Let's pursue it. Uh [42:48] >> let me let me talk to V dot cuz um quite [42:52] honestly that was one of the options [42:54] that was mentioned to me [42:57] >> sure that it would be listed [42:59] >> but [43:01] let me see how they recommend or if they [43:05] have any issue or any guidance on the [43:08] way that needs to happen. [43:12] Okay. [43:15] » Raw retreat was built [43:19] around the horse. [43:23] » It's come back [43:24] >> and it's it seriously it's come back. [43:27] Yes, sir. [43:28] >> But the streets were not designed for [43:32] automobile travel. I I New York City had [43:36] to do the same thing because at one time [43:38] the way they dealt with the road apples [43:41] they were called street sweepers [43:44] and they dumped it in the river it [43:46] killed the river. [43:48] >> So yes it's it's a matter of history [43:52] >> but part of the the big problem with the town it was built around the [43:58] horse. [43:59] So, you know, we there's nothing no need [44:03] wine and whatever like that and it it's [44:06] just what it was and and my living [44:10] memory there were still a lot of horses [44:12] that traveled when I was a kid. And [44:18] so, in other words, we we will I know [44:21] that the that the Masons will [44:24] if you don't ask, you can't be told [44:27] anything. So, we'll ask and then we'll [44:30] go from there. [44:33] So, with that said, so we don't drag [44:35] that. We don't have any information yet. [44:37] But Bob, it's a good suggestion and that [44:40] uh we need to probably put that in [44:44] unfinished business, don't you think? [44:48] To the discussion. I mean, that that way [44:51] we won't forget. We have been known to [44:53] forget. Get tied up in the moment. So, [44:57] with that said, we like we'll see that [44:59] and we'll [45:02] be hard to find somebody to talk to. [45:06] >> I imagine not. [45:10] >> Okay. [45:11] >> I will say this as well. Um, we might be [45:15] able to [45:17] use that money in kind [45:20] as our 20%. [45:24] Basically, basically what you're saying, [45:26] basically V dot uh projects are 8020 80 [45:31] v.20 US. [45:33] >> Um we may be able to use that as in kind [45:36] money saying, you know, we spent our 20% [45:39] on land acquisition to keep the project [45:43] moving. Uh and that be our 20%. I don't know if if we can do it that [45:48] way, but I know that there has been [45:50] inind money. It's called in kind money, [45:53] but it it's basically money upfront that [45:55] you've used to keep the project going uh [45:57] as a town to cover your 20%. [45:59] >> Those are all things that need to be [46:02] looked into. [46:03] >> Right. But that I just want to that that [46:05] is a possibility. [46:07] >> Not let the ball be dropped and thus [46:10] miss an opportunity. [46:11] >> That's right. Now's the time. That's [46:13] right. That it is. [46:17] Okay. [46:19] any other issues? [46:22] If there's not, we get lucky to [46:26] do current report. [46:28] >> Have they seen those? Have you all seen [46:31] these? [46:39] » And that meeting is at 6:00. [46:48] » All right. The following checks were [46:50] wrote. Um, Atmas Energy, $121. [46:55] Blue Ridge Analytical, $2,631. [46:59] BMS Direct, $453.56, [47:05] Brent Tag Midsouth, $1,50. [47:09] Brightspeed, $1,56,866. [47:14] Klein's Auto Service $2,15.17 [47:19] Electronic Systems $6227 [47:24] Hurt and Profit $2575 [47:28] Parkway Gas $3,226.34 [47:33] RNR Enterprises $500 [47:37] Smart Design Contracting and Consulting [47:41] $1,120 [47:44] Southwest Pest Control $60. Southwestern [47:47] Equipment $5141.12 [47:51] Utility Service Company $16,72724 [47:58] WBRF [48:00] FM $1,000 [48:03] WME FMAM $500 and Worldwide Equipment [48:08] $2,124.86. [48:10] 86. [48:13] » Okay. [48:16] Southwest [48:19] Community Center. [48:20] >> Mhm. [48:22] >> There you go. [48:23] >> No answer. [48:24] >> What vehicle did we spend $2,000 on this [48:27] time? [48:29] >> Yours. Tires or something? [48:31] >> Tires and roads and boats. [48:41] You don't have to put that on. [48:45] I was involved in procedure. [48:57] The tires was gone and brakes. So I held [49:00] off on the rotors long enough for the [49:02] brakes. [49:07] wasn't a 20-y old vehicle. [49:10] I rushed it through. [49:16] I have one more question. [49:18] >> Yes, ma'am. [49:18] >> Um, [49:20] anything [49:22] going on with the [49:24] properties, [49:26] >> the tax sales? [49:27] >> Yeah. [49:29] Um, [49:33] did do you have a do you remember seeing [49:35] Monica's TACS [49:37] uh [49:38] >> contact in there where she'd had [49:40] conversations with them? [49:42] >> We'll we'll look through old emails and [49:44] find out who Monica had contact with and [49:46] call if we can cuz it was my [49:49] understanding they were supposed to have [49:50] been advertised. Um, and [49:55] there's some other issues that we have [49:58] to where [50:00] I think some things need to be changed [50:02] through that tax system cuz basically [50:05] they're sending these people uh [50:08] collection notices and it's really not [50:11] telling them what the collection is for. [50:14] um some of the other localities that use [50:16] tax for some reason they list say you're getting delinquent taxes and [50:21] we've ran into this several times on a [50:24] 2006 Nissan and a 2017 [50:27] Suburban. this does not break down what [50:31] they're and that needs to be changed in [50:33] my opinion cuz these people are calling [50:35] us saying but what are these taxes for [50:38] you know what am I paying for you know [50:40] and I'm not going to pay this because [50:41] they don't see that yes this was a [50:43] vehicle that I that I owned during that [50:47] time frame so they're not they're [50:48] telling us we've had we've had several [50:51] conversations over the phone so I need [50:53] to reach out to them anyway to get that [50:55] fixed and I'll ask that question but [50:57] we've got to change. And me and her and [51:00] Carolyn uh had t me and Locky and [51:03] Carolyn had talked about we've got to [51:05] get the wording on the how they're [51:08] sending out to our customers. It's got to list what they're actually [51:15] going after taxes for because and I [51:17] understand that. I mean, if I just got a sheet with a with a number on it, not [51:22] itemized, I I would wonder what they're [51:25] sending it to me for. So, I need to have [51:28] conversation with him anyway. So, I'll [51:29] ask that question. [51:31] >> I have one more question, Mr. Mayor. I [51:34] know he's perfectly legal and he has a [51:37] business license, [51:40] but the Crossroads Garage, [51:43] it seems to keep growing. [51:46] And uh I was told that he was planning [51:51] to move this business, but I don't see [51:54] that happening in some time has passed [51:57] since I was told that. But it's a mess [52:00] out there. [52:02] >> I said something to him the other day [52:03] about down there. [52:06] Yeah, they got a bunch of [52:08] >> I mean I I was in the understanding that [52:10] as that the like cars were going to come [52:13] go out of there over time, but I don't [52:16] think [52:16] >> it's not happening. [52:18] >> Who owns that property now? Is the man [52:21] there? [52:21] >> No, Mr. Bales. Yeah, Mr. Bales own [52:28] her husband used to run the uh tool [52:31] truck. [52:32] >> Oh, [52:33] >> okay. Yeah, [52:38] » Bob, is there a limit? [52:43] you can stole outside the garage? [52:45] >> But there [52:47] >> is noticed [52:49] >> the problem is Well, [52:53] it it wouldn't be grandfathered in [52:54] because the ownership has changed. The ownership [52:59] has changed. If it was still the [53:00] original owner, it would be [53:01] grandfathered in. But there is in our [53:03] zoning something called a uh automobile [53:07] junkyard or [53:10] uh [53:11] something like that. And and there is a number on that zoning as far [53:16] as how many vehicles are considered. [53:19] >> Um it looks like a junkyard. [53:20] >> Well, the thing is and it's different [53:22] than than I know we've I know we've had [53:25] issues in the past, but it's different [53:27] than uh Mr. Klein down here cuz Mr. [53:29] Klein has vehicles coming in and out. [53:31] So, I mean, you know, it's a service. I [53:34] don't see a service there other than [53:37] just storage. [53:38] >> There's a large amount of big ones on [53:39] there. Yeah. They're not turned over. [53:43] >> Who can afford that many? [53:47] >> Unless they belong to somebody else and [53:48] they're paying rent on it. That makes [53:50] sense. [53:51] >> Well, he was in off the highway. He's [53:54] charging [53:56] >> charge an insurance company a fee to [53:58] store. [53:59] >> Yeah. Well, [54:01] >> I mean this Billy down here, he's got [54:04] car. [54:08] » I don't know. [54:10] >> We think Don't you have to have lots and [54:15] just [54:20] » Yeah, it has to be [54:22] a story. [54:23] >> Yeah, he's got a story. [54:25] >> To be in a building, but it's supposed [54:28] to be in [54:31] Yeah, he's got to finish in there. [54:36] » Yeah, that's overflow lot. [54:39] >> But anyway, my my point is [54:42] >> I remember you checking on that. [54:44] >> It's growing. [54:45] >> Yeah, it's not getting small. [54:47] >> Nothing's happening there. [54:48] >> Okay. [54:49] >> It can't grow. [54:50] >> Yeah. Somebody had reported one time [54:52] that he was moving on. That was that was I talked to the guy who works [54:57] for him there and he said they were [54:59] moving to a place out on 16 somewhere. [55:03] >> Uh but that's been months ago. [55:08] >> Yeah. [55:08] >> It's been at least it's been at least a [55:10] year. [55:10] >> Nothing's happened. [55:12] >> It might be something we need to talk to [55:15] about [55:19] might get some action. [55:22] >> Okay. Any other questions? Don't want to [55:26] leave anybody else. Okay. your own [55:29] advice to the [55:34] don't move guy. [55:37] I [55:41] love you.