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on the side. So, it is being recorded.
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» Yeah. Debut. Wait.
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>> For tonight, I guess. So good. Well, I

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appreciate the the attempt at problem
solving. I think we'll we'll go ahead

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with this right now. Uh if the rest of
council I think is is in agreement,

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we'll move ahead.
If that changes throughout this process

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at any point in time and you feel
uncomfortable about addressing a certain

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we can maybe you know move to defer a
certain item or something like that if

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that's an option. So we are moving to
item number nine delegations petitions.

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We have none. Item 10, consent items.
All items consent items will be enacted

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by one motion and majority vote is
required for the adoption of the consent

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items. There will be no separate
discussions of these items unless

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they're requested made prior to the time
council votes on the motion. So mo

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motion to that all items listed under
consent items be received as presented.

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This is moved by councelor Lauren,
second by councelor Armstrong. Call by a

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vote. All in favor, if you could just
verbally uh

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counselor.
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» Jamie. Yes.

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» Mark. Yes. Thank you, council members.
Appreciate it.

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» Mr. I can confirm that Deb sees you all
and she can hear you well.

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» Okay. Excellent. Thank you very much.
All right.

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Foreign

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the council receives a report PD 202632
dated August 31st, 2026 and maintain the

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current notice period and notification
process for minor variance applications

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and to post notifications on the
township website to maximize the public

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visibility and transparency.
Anything to add to that, Mu Bog?

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council

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2000 per year.
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» Yes. Um through Mr. Mayor annually and
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receive per year,
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so in terms of staff time that we did
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was about $15 per
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» Yeah. And if I if I remember correctly,
so you looked at the time the the time

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frame and the uh and how we uh announce
this information, correct?

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» Uh yes, exactly. So um and yeah the the
delay of uh of posting and and just to

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go to come back to the dollar amount um
that would have a major impact on the

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user fee uh for those type of requests.
Thank you. And then one last piece is we

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are adding in terms of service level is
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website as well as we were not correct.
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maintaining the the delay the 10 days
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notice on the website as well.
>> Thank you. Any further questions,

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members of council? Council.
>> Yeah, I'd like to call this item up so I

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can

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pull it.

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The council receives to report CSASFS
2026-9 dated August 31st, 2026 regarding

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the recreation complex financing
strategy and debt diversification and

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that council approved the following
proposed debt diversification strategy

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for approximately $70 million in
long-term financing requirement. 17.5

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million on a five 5-year term with a
30-year amortization. 24.5 million on a

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10-year term with a 30year amortization.
28 million on a 30-year term with a

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30-year amortization. And then council
authorized administration to enter into

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a preown preflow, pardon me, loan
agreement with infrastructure Ontario

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for the financing of the recreation
complex in the amount of 17.5 million as

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proposed in the attach bylaw for 2026.
The debt servicing cost will be funded

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from the recreation complex reserve. The
proposed financing sources for the

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recreation conflicts debt for 2027 and
after will be presented to council as

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part of the 2027 budget and that council
authorize administration to uh continue

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discussion with infrastructure on
Infrastructure Ontario regarding

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additional prefancing
opportunities for the remaining 10-year

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and 30-year debt requirements should
market conditions remain favorable. So

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before we get into the report, I want to
acknowledge um the governance questions.

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So admin recommended 3.67 rate uh
because of the financial risk of waiting

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uh to the next council meeting. So this
did not bind us outside of a potential

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uh penalty. Um but at no point was there
a decision made for the entire debenture

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at this stage. So it was just to
guarantee the rate. Uh and so this was a

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recommendation that came from council.
It was on a timeline and the rates were

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going up. So it was a riskmanagement
decision between rates continuing to

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increase or locking in that rate that
favorable rate um at this stage. Um but

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it doesn't bind us more than a potential
penalty at this council does not agree

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with that. And the plan uh Met was the
plan that we had presented or that

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council had approved in terms of the
splits and the the directions at our

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Junior meeting. Correct.

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» Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Anything else to add?
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Before council considers the
recommendation and shares its views, I

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would like to briefly outline the key
factors that led administration to this

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recommendation. Administration is
recommending a diversified financing

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strategy for the red complex that
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death terms. The objective is to balance
the opportunity presented by today's

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lower short and medium-term interest
rate with the long-term stability that

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taxpayer expect for the project of this
size. Current infrastructure Ontario

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rates provide an opportunity to achieve
meaningful interest savings by financing

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a portion of the project using a shorter
term rather than placing the entire

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borrowing requirement into a single
30-year debenture. Based on on current

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rates, the recommended approach is
expected to generate approximately three

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2.3 million in net interest savings
during the first 5 years while

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maintaining a significant portion of the
debt and long-term fixed finance. It is

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also important to understand the timing
requirement associated with

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Infrastructure Ontario preflow financing
program. The process to secure this type

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of financing typically takes 6 to 8
weeks and the interest rate must be

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locked in before council considers the
final debenture bylaw. As a result,

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administration must secure federal rates
in advance in order to preserve these

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financing opportunities.
Notably, the recommended strategy

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represent a balanced and prudent
approach. It spreads refinancing risk

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across multiple maturity dates rather
than exposing the full 70 million debt

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to a single
renewal period. Helps protect taxpay

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taxpayers from future interest rate
volatility and provides the township

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with greater financial flexibility while
capturing meaningful interest savings.

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Thank you.

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rent mortgage timeline.

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Okay, I see. I'll see you.
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clarifying you said. So, the total
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first five years. It's 1.27 over the
first five because the first one is only

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a 5year picture. The other 1.1 is over a
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next five. Correct? Based on what this
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» the 1.1 is the savings on the 10year
term but for the first 5 years. So if we

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would lock this loan, we would save 2.2
million in the 10 year. But because my

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analysis was on the 5-year, I wanted to
show how much we would would be savings

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and interest rate in the first five.
Okay. So, there's an additional million

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dollar savings on the second debenture.
That is a 10-year debenture.

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» Yes.
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million in saving, almost 3.4 million in
savings. And then what also isn't isn't

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known is a savings on that original
five-year deenture when you have to

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renew to get to the 10 year to get to
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interest rates are at that point in time
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a 5year period. If we're looking at the
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of savings rather than going to the full
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at 5.1. Correct.
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savings of interest over the first 10
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» Yes. If you look for the 10 years. Yeah.
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Councelor.
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with this. Um the um the short-term
interest rates will have to explode for

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us to lose some money on this. If it go
if they go up significantly, we may not

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gain the actual uh uh the largest
potential savings, but we'll still gain

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uh some savings on the interest over the
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if you want to put it that way. I think
it's prudent and go ahead.

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» Thank you. Any other comments?
Well, I said it before the meeting

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started, but I just want to thank staff
and should add an image I think [snorts]

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for the detail that was presented. It it
was uh uh complete and gave a a great

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picture across the board of what the
options were. So, I'm grateful for the

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for the level of detail that was
provided here. It made the decision easy

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for me.
Any other comments on this item?

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Okay, [clears throat] moving to item.

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Now it's a simple amendment to the user
fee and char um we charge we it used to

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be $100 uh the price to purchase these
this equipment went up to 140 rather

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than increasing our our fee to 140 we
decided to just mark it as cost recovery

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that we don't need to come back to
council every time every time the cost

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increases. Um we'll we'll continue
operating and just invoicing what our

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actual costs are.
That's it. If there's any questions that

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sense reason and an efficient way of
doing it for sure any questions or

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comments for members of council.
Excellent. Thank you. We are moving to

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item B that council receives report
ecobat 2026-10 dated August 31st 2026

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and approve the use of the advisory
committee budgets to finance the cost of

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coupons distributed as part of the BB
2026 public engagement activities. The

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reimbursement of coupons costs incurred
by the participating groups are as

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follows. Accessibility advisory
committee $140 team advisory committee

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$160. healthcare task force $35 for a
total expenditure of $65.

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And further that council authorized the
use of advisory committee budget funding

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to reimburse the healthcare advisory
force force despite it not being an

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advisory committee due to the important
role in the community engagement and the

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absence of a dedicated operating budget.

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council.

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Seeing none, we move to item F.

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All right. Update on construction in the
municipality preferable report is 2026.

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So we understand there's lots of public
frustration there towards ongoing work

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especially when there's delays and when
their scope of work changes throughout

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the construction project.

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The Route 300 corridor, the intersection
of Sang Yong and 300 constructions going

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is going as planned and we're still
planning the re door the official

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opening of the roundabout later in
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So that's and that that part of the work
is being done uh in coordination with

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you the United counties of PR husband
Russell the other intersection along 300

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will all be completed in 2027
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construction

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The current section will is planned to
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September 18.

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Um work to still be done in that
portion. um complete the underground

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infrastructure. Uh the paving utility
relocation

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uh the municipal parking lot will be
completely rehabilitated

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in 2027.

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Just one quick question. You said the
September 18th for Nazam or is currently

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being between St. Kier and there
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» And is that both lanes will be open by
September 18th?

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» Yeah. To fully reopen. Yes.
>> Will it be open one lane at a time or

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» at this time the projection is to reopen
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some like sidewalk or utility relocation
may call for lane closures at time for

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those parts of the work.
>> And just a clarification for council's

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benefit. So when we talk about the
parking, it's the parking right by the

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entrance to the trail. So that parking
will be redone, but that's not only

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exterior. The trail that movement of the
bicycle trail will be done this year.

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Yeah, that's uh that's our plan
currently to relocate to to implement

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the new uh path behind the
and to have to redo the parking lot next

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year.
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entrepreneurs Foreign

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speech. Foreign speech.

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the
the limiting circulation where it's one

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direction circulation or anything while
they're doing those needs.

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» Um possibly yes there may be the
disruption or lane alternance while

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those specific works are being
completed.

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» No longer closing.
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temporary or using flagman or maybe a
street light for short short period of

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time.
>> Thank you. Questions now. Thank you.

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with that. The first lift of paving of
is also planned.

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LaM was on our paving schedule for this
year. So since we need to do written, we

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thought it would be a better product
that once we put [clears throat] the

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final lift next year, we'll be able to
finalize LAMA at the same time to have a

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better product at the end.
Can you clarify first?

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Uh so for that brings me to the the next
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we're targeting September 21st to move
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from S Pre to D.

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Uh the goal of that of that segment is
to complete the water main replacement

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and the replacement of the storm sewer
uh for that uh that stretch. To complete

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the work uh we are planning to fully
close the road again for that segment.

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Um so this to mirror the approach that
we've took over the last couple of

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months on the
um the detours will be by route 300 and

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So that's from on St. Pier from D. Is
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» Yeah.
>> To D. So that's our the next stretch of

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road that we'll be really that we'll be
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» Which way is D?
>> D.

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where the

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» Oh,
>> so we'll be closing that section.

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» That section. Yes. So, we'll apply the
same um uh the same thing that we've

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just done where the Nutam will now be a
dead end. So you'll be able to access

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NRAAM from the west until like as the
the construction progress then you'll

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have two dead ends moving towards the
the man.

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» Yes.
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for how long?
>> Um that will bring us to the end of the

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construction season. So in octo uh at
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» end of October beginning we'll say.
[clears throat] Yeah, we'll Yeah, we'll

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be able to Yeah.
>> or month and a half.

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» Month and a half.
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if you didn't close both lanes, what
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» Um that's adding time. And for the
construction or um to be able to

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maximize your time installing both
infrastructure and to protect your

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embbridge or gas line, the best
construction pattern is to go and

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install everything at once to do your
road your road box or your to put your

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gravel everything in the same trench.

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But when the when the contract was given
was that what was was that what was

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asked and bid on?
>> Yes. Um so the contract um at that time

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when the contract was issued and bid on
one lane had to remove remain open at

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that time we didn't not have any
requirement for manbridge to protect

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their gas lane. So that was a a
requirement that was added after the

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fact
>> and the only way to do that is to close

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both lanes.
>> Well, that's one way to do it.

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» The other way
>> um I would need to ask the contractor,

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but that's like the most efficient way
to protect and to build your road all at

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once that way.
>> Yeah, please go ahead.

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» So
it's the most efficient way for the

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contractor
But what we're residents, what we're

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businesses, and you know, we're not
saving any money to the to the to the

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contract. Correct. By having closed
both,

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» we're not saving as per sale on the
contract, but we're min we're on the

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flip side, we're not adding costs
uh for those extra requirement for

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Enbridge. We're able to do some sort of
an offset as well.

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So there so you're saying there is a a
cost savings to what they're doing

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because we were last time I asked the
question you said there were no cost

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savings but they're now see that's the
first time I hear about embbridge being

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a require being an issue and that was a
requirement that was added to the

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contract. So what what what does that
cost look like? What are we save like

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what are we saving there? I I'll to give
the council the the appropriate answer,

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the correct answer. I'll have to come
back. I'll have to to ask the team to

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give me and to review all the figures.
>> I just like to know what the numbers

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are. And at the end of the day, it might
have been the right decision, but I

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don't know if I don't have the numbers,
right? And how that how that's impacting

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everybody. And now we're moving to
another section and we're going to

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impact those businesses and the
residents. So, I just want to make sure

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we're doing the right thing.
Pastor, sorry.

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There are a good number of businesses
down there, even more than what there

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were uh in the section from uh St. Pia
to Ble and um

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they're going to suffer a fair bit.
Not only that, we're going to have the

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uh the question about uh uh about people
detouring through a substantial

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residential area that has narrow streets
and uh it in fact has

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several narrow streets and extra ways in
and out of that area. So, it would be

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hard at all, perhaps impossible to uh
block through traffic somewhere in that

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uh area. I mean, if it wasn't in the
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keeping one lane open, I think, is is
the only

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reasonable way of getting this done,
balancing the needs of our residents and

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the businesses in that section. That
that's just

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just the way it is. I mean, I I've seen
sections like that in Ottawa where they

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where they've done that, but Ottawa has
so many side streets coming into the

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area that allows businesses to stay
open. Parking is available conveniently

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to the businesses, etc. That's just not
happening here. And uh

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you know, I I got to have this uh
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» Thank you, counselor.
Certain

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» um does procedurally does that require a
motion from a council member or is that

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» I I'm just wondering where the direction
of this conversation is going especially

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if it's
>> if if council is coming forward and

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looking to propose solutions.
>> Yeah.

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require a lot of expertise and a lot of
information, a lot of financial

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background.
>> So, at this stage, I think we're still

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discussing the update. Um, councelor
Lauren

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and Councelor Armstrong have kind of
explained their position and so I'm just

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listening to the table at this stage and
um see where it goes, but eventually me

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direction to step.

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So, I just I just want to be sure
because this was a fourpart update. Our

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is finished going through the four parts
of us. I think there's other aspects to

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it.
>> We'll save my comments and questions

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until
>> Okay.

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Okay. So, see where we're at so far, but
we'll keep going then

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detours. If we proceed with full road
closure, route 300 and 400 will be

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maintained as our primary detour. Uh as
in terms of the cut through through the

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subdivision, we're fully aware uh that
was used in the in April. So therefore,

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we'll we would be implementing a no exit
or essentially blocking off that

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subdivision. So
resident that are using that bypass to

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get to plac more quicker could not go
through.

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So we'll have more signs and we'll be
able to to limit or to stop people from

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just bypassing through the subdivision.
So essentially punishing the residents

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that are already there being limited to
building as well the exit full 300.

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» Yeah. If we if we take that uh that
approach that you're you want to we're

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listening to the resident not diverting
traffic to their subdivision.

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the the flip the flip side would be uh
like the people on Zing and Voyage live

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through the summer and those resident
would would need to go around to go to

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the east
>> much bigger much bigger residents a lot

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» yeah but I'm just using that example in
term of uh what the approach or what

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what it would look like
>> okay so that's that's part of okay let's

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keep going

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» um so Um
since we're now in that phase where we

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know it's uh it's it's we we have a
better understanding of when

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construction would change uh letters and
communication would occur this week

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uh to the to the people now affected on
that uh remaining segment

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and and for NRAAM we also started
construction of of our phase three which

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is starting at the water reservoir near
the dog park. Uh the installation of

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that water man is progressing quickly.
Uh we're now uh we will start along

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Natraam all the way to the roundabout
which was already planned this year. Uh

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so that work will start uh in the next
uh like any time now.

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» Mr. [ __ ] just to clarify on that
particular work are we closing any

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roads? There's going to be um lane
closures while they're working uh along

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Natraadam and there's going to be a few
days where we're into the roundabout

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that we will have to close uh one leg of
the roundabout

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direction eastbound.
>> Just a couple of days.

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» Yes. We don't have this the exact days
yet. Uh but those will be announced uh

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when we when we're getting closer. And
and you did mention we had a resident

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reach out wondering why we're spraying
everything in blue. And so those

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residents that will now have potentially
water going through have been reached

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out to.
>> Yes. The staff was were coordinating

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with those uh home property owners since
water manu is now available for them if

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they want us water service.
>> Questions, comments on this?

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Yeah. The uh the first thing is u will
those residents

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» [clears throat]
>> uh that are now able to connect be uh

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paying the flat rate for water use once
it's available to

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» all those details will be discussed with
those property owners. Yeah.

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» Is a typical
>> Yeah. typical procedure like we've done

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uh elsewhere.
>> Let's move on.

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Okay. Proceed. Uh, next project, the uh,
re the revamp of the Amber Water Tower,

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the revised time schedule uh, to put the
tower back online. We're now looking at

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the end of September

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» to be done
at August was officially.

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» Uh, yeah. Our last update was end of
August. Um last week or last Friday we

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received the updated schedule uh
following a meeting with our with the

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contractor. Um
we so we therefore we need to maintain

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the restriction until it's safe or until
the water's online and it's safe to

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remove those restriction. Um the work to
be completed uh did take more time and

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it's more extensive than anticipated at
first.

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zero communications plan
>> uh first thing tomorrow morning. Um we

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knew that we had this meeting tonight so
to give update to council and um the

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following updates will follow to
resident first thing in the morning.

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» Questions, comments members of council
on this item. Council

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» Laurier

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the first update on the roundabouts at
300 and sing. You said October. Is that

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beginning of October, end of October
versus the anticipated?

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» I spoke with the counties this morning
and they're looking at the end of the of

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October.

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» Armstrong.

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» Yeah. Um, residents of Ember have now
gone through a year with reduced water

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services, things they could do, watering
their lawns, etc.

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And um I'm if uh
if necessary, I'll put a motion to uh

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ask that the residents of Ottawa get the
residents of Denver get a one-time uh

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rebate uh for their reduced services
that they've received uh [clears throat]

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in this past year compared to the
residents that are on the uh Russell and

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Mariamville water towers. Um
the weather has cooperated for the most

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part of this year. So we haven't been
watering our lawns etc. But that that's

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uh
that ignores the fact that the uh the

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service wasn't available and the the uh
uh full service was paid for by the

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residents. I would ask that the staff
look at uh showing us what sort of a

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rebate would be required for them so
that council can have a look in the

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future at uh posting a rebate for those
residents that are serviced by the ember

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water tower. So my question was about
water is a use for a fee and so if I use

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less water I'm paying less already.
Correct.

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» That's correct. And so technically
you're you're only paying for what you

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use. So if you have used less, you are
paying less this year. And so I'm not

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sure exactly what it cost just to just
to be sure we're on the same page.

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» Yeah. But remember that uh for example
in my use most of my water bill is the

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fixed rate that is the basis of things
not the consumption rate. So um okay

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that's the the rate that I was uh
looking at not the lower consumption

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everybody in the municipality has had
the the same lower water consumption you

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just haven't done your lawn etc uh it
should

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» thank you very much so
um that fixed rate Mr. vote on to make

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sure that I understand correctly. If we
were to lower it for the ember

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residents, what is the impact on on the
rest of the users?

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» Um just thinking quickly here that the
main impact would be our transfer to

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asset replacement reserve.
>> Yes. So it would impact that or the

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other the rest of the residence would be
offsetting

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» shortfall at some point in time. Someone
has to pay for it. It's not money that's

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that's that's disappeared. It's still
expenses that we need to collect. Um and

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so although it may be a good idea, it
just I want to make sure that it's on

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the same page with that. And
>> the other thing I would add in part of

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that consideration, we'll have to do
Russell Tower in the short term.

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So if we apply that type of logic like
we'll have to consider that as well. And

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I I think I think it's also fair to
point out that yes, the service has been

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reduced, but the the flexibility that
was added in May, I think or June where

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where beyond day you could still
use more water and so on for pools and

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so on. I think overall it was much
better than what we had started with.

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And as much as I hate adding another
month to it, um that's a different

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story. But um I'm not sure I would
support uh reducing any costs at this

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stage, but I leave that up to council to
go through council.

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Maybe, and again, I'm not going to speak
for councelor Armstrong. We can put an

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amendment on the table any time, but
maybe if the fact that the Russell Tower

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is going to be done in the shorter term
or the longer term that we

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[clears throat] wait until they're both
complete and then look at seeing where

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we are and what we can do and if there
are options cuz obviously, you know,

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looking at this construction, that
construction is probably going to be

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longer than expected originally and
therefore similar types of um

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limitations might be there. Maybe it's a
global one-time reduction and what would

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that look like from a budgetary
perspective and maybe it's not this

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year, but maybe it's two years down the
road or a year and a half down the road,

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but maintain it on the radar so that it
comes to the budget at a certain time.

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Uh [clears throat] maybe that's the way
to do it. I I don't know. But again, if

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council arm wants to put on the table,
then the council will look at it or the

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next council will look at it or whoever
will look at it. But um I

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[clears throat] think that, you know,
doing it now for one and and then

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waiting and doing it again for the
other, there may be discrepancies there

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and why did they get this and why did
they get that and maybe it's a global

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global view that we need to do um
further down the road, but that's just

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one opinion. So,
>> thank you. Any other questions or

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comments on that particular aspect of
it?

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Anything else to add?
>> And the last uh project update uh I've

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already touched on La Pam that will be
completed September under the NATAM

426
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:38,880
contract, but everything else uh in
paving was is now completed. There's

427
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:44,000
deficiencies to be fixed. Uh staff is
now working with the contractor to get

428
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:47,680
those fixed, but all roads in our paving
schedule for this summer is now

429
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:52,640
completed.
>> Yeah, I've got a few questions now

430
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:58,240
globally. Uh in terms of the so phase
two now is is uh

431
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:04,880
based on what you're saying it's going
to be closed for six weeks. What is um

432
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:09,760
the prognosis for phase three um for
next year we're going to be doing the

433
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:15,440
same thing on the is that is that stand
to reason that because it's the same

434
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:20,000
road and the same gas line sold
>> um

435
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:25,520
I'll come back to council with an update
on that other phase I don't want to

436
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:33,520
without having the proper discussion
with the contractor I don't want uh

437
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:39,200
kind of anticipate or just throw ideas
here at this stage. I want to make sure

438
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:45,440
that I do provide the best and complete
as completed info as possible. Um I want

439
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:51,839
to learn from the mistake that I've done
last March where we tried to provide the

440
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:57,119
best info as possible. Uh embridge and
other variables were still missing. Um,

441
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:01,119
so yeah, I want to make I want to be in
a position where I can give the full

442
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:06,480
picture and not leaving everything out
or some variables out.

443
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:13,960
» Thank you, Counc.
>> Just for clarification on that last one

444
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,960
is that was it in March that the go

445
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:19,920
» open house. We had an open house in
March where we explained to the

446
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:25,200
residents of how this is going to move
forward, what are some challenges and so

447
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:31,760
on.
And then when we closed the current part

448
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:37,040
of me that was not expected and there
was discussion because it is the most

449
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:42,079
narrow part of but there was some logic
to that argument of the efficiency and

450
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:47,760
so on and now we have this and the
natural gas being consideration but I

451
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:52,960
still struggle with the point and and
much to what councelor Dorren spoke to

452
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:58,800
was that if this is a benefit for the
community to to suffer uh and I know

453
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:03,200
it's not major suffering but but for the
businesses there it definitely is if

454
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,680
there is a benefit I don't see that
benefit right now we talk about

455
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:12,640
efficiency we talk about uh all kinds of
things but 100% I can guarantee you that

456
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,640
any contractor would say it's definitely
more efficient if there's no more

457
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:21,760
traffic and so I I wouldn't expect a
contractor to ask for any less I would I

458
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:27,760
would support the direction that
councelor Armstrong point where where we

459
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,720
just say no, we want that one lane open
and what does that mean?

460
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:41,599
Yeah. And and so she go, well, at this
stage because we're two weeks, three

461
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:46,319
weeks away from the 21st, right?
um you know there's timeline timing

462
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:50,800
requirements here in terms of you know
what direction does council give and and

463
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:57,200
where are we going and does that slow us
down in terms of notifications and so on

464
00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:01,359
so um what do you propose how do you
propose m

465
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:06,720
if we want to move in if council wants
to move in that direction and I'm not

466
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:10,400
sure that council does I I kind of just
summarizing at this stage but I'm just

467
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,839
trying to make sure council has the best
poss possible information before any

468
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:19,520
actions required.
>> Well, I guess I can start by saying that

469
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:25,680
we will still um advise our resident
businesses that construction will be

470
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:32,319
coming in 3 weeks uh with giving out
options potentially with advising

471
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:38,720
further uh communication coming along.
Um in the next two weeks um depending of

472
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:44,880
direction of council I can come back to
council with u either further

473
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,880
information to assess the decision or
options.

474
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:57,920
» Okay. And then my last point is the uh
closure of access routes for uh the

475
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:05,359
neighborhoods around. So in April we did
not do that and we managed through

476
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:10,960
traffic calming measures um to ensure
that the traffic was reduced and so on

477
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:14,880
and during that time it was a bypass and
and even though we pushed people away

478
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,280
from it I mean it's like water they'll
go to the simplest route and I get that.

479
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Uh my concern is the existing residents
it would start blocking their uh way to

480
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:33,920
leave the the community u especially
with u at this stage for the whole month

481
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:36,240
there is no issues with St. Pak or um or
San Die right in terms of going to

482
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Ottawa.
>> That's correct.

483
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:47,280
» Yeah. So, I mean that it's not too bad,
but I'm not I'm not sure I'm 100%

484
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:52,240
comfortable blocking current residents.
So, I leave them again for a council to

485
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,880
discuss this. You know, I'd love to to
hear your thoughts on that. So, two

486
00:46:54,319 --> 00:47:03,599
things. What kind of direction are we
giving staff in terms of uh of u the uh

487
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:08,720
the requirement or wanting what we want
in terms of the one way or definitely

488
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:14,640
demonstrate what closing b how does it
benefit the community and two um those

489
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:20,240
closures do we want to block those
access routes so there is no bypass or

490
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,880
or do we want it the way it was in April
so I'll just open that up to council

491
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:30,400
council Lauren
Um just a question where from from what

492
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:35,839
point on other dam are we pointing them
to a detour?

493
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:41,040
So coming going eastbound on the dam
passing town hall at what point will

494
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:48,240
there be a sign that says detour or will
there be one before they get here?

495
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:53,200
» So you'll be will be advising motorists
that at St. Andre there's a detour in

496
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,040
place. You're now entering a dead end
zone.

497
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,640
You'll have the same reminder near Tim
Morton

498
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:05,920
that past that point, past all those
commercial plaza, it's now a dead end.

499
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:10,000
And you'll have the same reminders at
Prad

500
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:13,520
and Roadblock.
>> Will we have a sign?

501
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,440
» Yeah, go ahead.
>> Will we have a sign there that says town

502
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:20,640
hall is still open?
>> Because

503
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:26,160
» we will have a sign that said businesses
are open. Okay. But so this will be this

504
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:34,640
will be like this until the end of
October. We have this room as the only

505
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:40,000
location for voters to come and and get
do their voting here if they needed to

506
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:46,559
or fix things with their with their um
ballots or whatnot. And if that is

507
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:51,839
leading somebody away from here,
then I'm concerned that people are going

508
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:56,960
to not come and they and then ultimately
they're not able to vote. So I should I

509
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,960
have a concern there with that. So
>> fair.

510
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:09,200
» Where else we going? Councelor
Armstrong.

511
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:15,200
In this next section, where
will residents of the subdivision

512
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:19,040
actually have access to the subdivision
and where will they be blocked off?

513
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:26,079
There there are three routes in, one
from uh St. Pia and two from Nadan.

514
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:30,559
Uh but where will those uh roadblocks
be?

515
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:35,000
» Are we able to uh show up on screen so
that you can demonstrate that?

516
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:55,400
Is it in your report that I'm talking
Google Maps?

517
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,400
» I'm trying. Give me one sec.

518
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:04,574
» I'm being specific.
>> [laughter]

519
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,880
» Hey, which address?

520
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,559
in case.
>> No, I come in yet.

521
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,880
» Stop sharing.

522
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,200
She said what's the cold?

523
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,040
» Mhm.
>> Zoom in a bit.

524
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,280
» You zoom out. So the weakness from

525
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,440
» switch.

526
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:33,680
» Perfect.
>> Okay.

527
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:39,480
» All right.
>> So where the little point is that's from

528
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480
that.

529
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:49,520
» Yeah, it's very small.
where the little point is, you see

530
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:52,800
that's uh that's Pro.
>> Yeah.

531
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:59,119
» Then you have going eastward as to the
right on the map along

532
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:02,800
you'll see uh doain
which is another access to the

533
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:10,760
subdivision
and finally the we have the other one at

534
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:10,760
Olympic which is from St. Pierre.

535
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,440
It was

536
00:52:16,176 --> 00:52:18,196
[clears throat]

537
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:39,440
if we are to do a hard block with
barricades, it would be here at So the

538
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:41,839
entire subdivision would need to use
that and then

539
00:52:40,411 --> 00:52:45,520
» [clears throat]
>> Okay. So, understanding that residents

540
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,599
that want to take a shortcut, they go,
I'll just go through there or they'll be

541
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:54,000
back in all be creating even more
traffic for the first week or

542
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:59,000
» for the first few days like Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like we had and

543
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:07,520
Yeah. So,
um any prop any recommendation for staff

544
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:14,471
in terms of direction? I would like to
direct staff to to um to say that

545
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:19,920
council does not want full closure and
[clears throat] what does that involve

546
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:26,000
um and to try to understand, you know,
the cost versus the benefit of closing.

547
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:31,200
We need to I I would like this council
to have and for our residents to have,

548
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:36,640
you know, when they ask us to be able to
say the reason this is closed is it

549
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:41,200
would cost this much more. It wasn't
planned because we have this line, the

550
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:46,240
gas line going through so additional
costs and so on.

551
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:50,240
» Time. Absolutely. Yeah,
>> Armstrong.

552
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:57,160
» I agree.
For the members of council on this

553
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,160
particular aspect. Yeah. Counc,

554
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:03,839
I want more information. I don't
necessarily foresee that I'm for or

555
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:09,760
against
one lane because I don't know any

556
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:17,359
consequences.
>> I don't what if that means if if one

557
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:22,000
lane means that folks there and and they
see reduced business until next June.

558
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,400
» Well, so they they will come back with
time. Yeah.

559
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:28,880
» So they will come back with time and I
think that's that's the idea is to

560
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:34,079
really be able to me to have a full
measure of either or as a instead of

561
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:38,640
being told we don't have a choice.
>> As a research question if I were a

562
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:42,640
business I think part of that
communication and I wonder if that's out

563
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:48,400
there it's when when you do a full
closure versus for a certain amount of

564
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:55,520
time versus a a one lane closure. But
what has a a harsher impact on the

565
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:59,119
businesses in terms of regaining the
traffic that they would have prior to

566
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:05,119
foreclosure
um versus the inconvenience of likely

567
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:08,319
having a longer term um construction
zone that they're operating within

568
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:15,040
things like that that I think would be
good for us to add as well. Um,

569
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:22,880
from the ecode perspective,
I I have several questions that I can

570
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,240
comment if you are related to this
particular right now or

571
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,480
» I haven't given any comments or
questions since the report began. So,

572
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,520
» okay.
>> I can try to say

573
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:45,119
» I'd like to know on as these changes
have come since March, how the

574
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:51,599
engagement policy, the public engagement
policy has been utilized to determine

575
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:55,920
and inform staff about the requirement
for another openings

576
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:04,920
at any point when these changes were
made. And if no, why not?

577
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,920
» I think that question is more directed

578
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,079
overall policy.

579
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:16,720
» Uh well, regarding the policy itself,
I I won't touch the policy itself. I'll

580
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:22,799
just speak to the the the different
efforts that were were undertaken

581
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:28,720
throughout this process. as a as a plan
or as a construction scope was adjusted.

582
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:34,079
Uh we haven't taken uh a lot of
intensive or

583
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:38,240
more like a different approach as far as
our consultations with the impacted

584
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:45,280
residents and impacted businesses
businesses, excuse me. Um, I'll let

585
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:50,240
speak to this if if you want to add
anything, but our code officer does

586
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:53,920
regularly
meet with all the businesses that are

587
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:58,960
impacted
uh for the construction. [clears throat]

588
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,880
Um and uh just to keep a close uh a
close pulse on how things are going,

589
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:08,000
what the different challenges are um
what we can do to to support and uh the

590
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:12,119
plans to continue doing that proactively
as well for this upcoming phase.

591
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:21,799
from

592
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,200
access

593
00:57:43,024 --> 00:57:45,044
[clears throat]

594
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,280
to level West.

595
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,119
You see the the contactctor.

596
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:32,400
That doesn't answer my question, but I
appreciate the detailed overview of the

597
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:37,440
efforts and the problem solving that's
going into this. Um,

598
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:42,640
I'm always, you know, there's a lot of
lessons to be learned from this, I

599
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:47,920
believe, and
especially as we approach a phase three

600
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:52,799
next year. I just want to understand
um when our open house is called for. Is

601
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:56,799
an open house called for next week for
example because this feels like an open

602
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:00,160
house right now with two members in the
public.

603
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:06,319
We don't have any visuals in front of us
for us to be able to really see what's

604
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:12,720
being proposed. Um,
I would see value in in uh, you know,

605
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:17,920
being having been here in March and seen
the value of that meeting, albeit that

606
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,319
it sounds like a lot of that information
changed.

607
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:27,119
Um there was a lot of interest from the
public attending that and there were

608
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,559
moments in that meeting where folks were
very concerned

609
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:35,119
and there were moments in that meeting
where folks were applauding because they

610
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,720
were so excited about what would come to
notify them on the other end of this

611
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:42,079
project. And I want to make sure that
you know and we as councilor it's our

612
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:46,480
job to make sure that we're not losing
the plot. This is a huge inconvenience,

613
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:51,599
but we're also not telling the story of
what's going to happen to them in a few

614
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:57,359
years time where it's going to be
completely transformed, much more

615
00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:00,640
walkable, much more village ccentric,
communityfriendly.

616
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:05,760
Um,
so again, I just I I'll leave it to

617
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:08,720
administration to to ponder on whether
an open house would be valuable. I'm

618
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:13,520
saying that the one that I attended in
March was incredibly valuable. Um, of

619
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:17,440
course having accurate information is
essential

620
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,880
on on these reports. One of the things
that I'm struggling with as we go

621
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:26,160
through these reports, I'm being told
what what's going to happen, but it's

622
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:31,280
from a very technical perspective, which
I can appreciate.

623
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:36,000
I don't know the construction world. I
I'm imagining these projects. Again, not

624
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:41,839
having a visual a visual is a challenge
tonight. But in the future reports like

625
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:46,480
this that are coming, it would be
helpful to understand what does this

626
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:51,599
mean for the average resident and
business like you're going to have your

627
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:58,880
sidewalk closed for a month or you're
going to um notice likely detour traffic

628
01:00:56,319 --> 01:01:03,040
coming through your community.
I think it would be valuable to present

629
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:08,960
these reports in a way that centers the
actual experience of businesses. What

630
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:13,839
data do we have on what impact is this
likely to have on your business? Um,

631
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:18,160
given research in the field, we know
that when you, you know, like this is

632
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:26,000
the data, the information that we need
as a council. Um again the technical is

633
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:31,440
so important from the fiduciary aspect
the uh you know we're looking at the

634
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:36,319
financials the efficiencies
but we need to be balancing that with

635
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:39,760
actual lived experience of residents and
businesses through this and I just feel

636
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:44,880
like we could pivot and that could be a
lesson from this is pivoting those

637
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:50,000
reports um at least or adding sections
to them that really spell out for us

638
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:55,599
what this means for people
and I'm referring to like I'm giving you

639
01:01:52,240 --> 01:02:01,040
examples like this because I didn't know
I didn't know them that a little old

640
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:05,599
lady would lose access to her driveway
and not be able to get her new blinds

641
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:11,040
delivered and not be able to walk down
the street to her her her daughter's

642
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:14,480
house for example. I didn't know that.
Um

643
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:18,880
I have
I have a couple more questions on the

644
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:24,000
other sections. The other uh well I
guess one question that I I think has to

645
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:28,480
be asked is how has emergency services
been consulted on these different

646
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:32,960
options and um with the information that
administration is bringing tonight uh

647
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:38,799
those potential options have those been
vetted especially for response time

648
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:45,040
um if Olympic were to be completely
blocked that adds a huge detour for fire

649
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:49,599
services from from 300. So that's one
question I I'll ask directly.

650
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:53,680
» Okay, I'll go with that answer.
>> Yeah. So when when our plan are

651
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:59,359
established, we do communicate with our
fire department so they can adjust on

652
01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:03,040
their end the routes and uh how to react
route to address calls coming from

653
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,119
different locations.
>> In terms of the ambulance service,

654
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:11,599
» yeah, they're they're also circulated on
our uh when there's road closure. So

655
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:18,400
that way on their end they can uh
shuffle or address uh what's needed

656
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:23,200
they're all like all emergency services
are part of that distribution

657
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:26,720
» and if I remember correctly correctly if
I'm wrong but anytime we're doing

658
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:32,640
something like that all the departments
are down by as opposed to in the past

659
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:38,200
coordination department
>> and all buildings are always accessible

660
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:38,200
at all time

661
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:45,599
is sorry just a nuance on that. Does
that refer to my comment about driveways

662
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,039
being inaccessible
or is that related to the emergency

663
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:54,160
services
>> for for emergencies? And for driveways,

664
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:59,039
yes, there's always a period of time
where residential driveway would be

665
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:04,400
don't that the resident don't have
access when the trench or when you're

666
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:08,079
when the hole is right in front of that
driveway. Yeah. There's period of time

667
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:12,160
where it's not accessible. residents are
advised that a sign alternate parking is

668
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:18,880
is
>> provided or or information shared. Yeah,

669
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:22,559
» it's never going to be clean because
that's not one they have to go there.

670
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:28,720
They have to do that. But it's the
angle, it's the perspective that I think

671
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:33,920
um
getting into this multi-phase project,

672
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:40,799
it just would have supported our
decision- making to have the perspective

673
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:45,440
of and and potential impacts
detailed in that way. Um

674
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,920
C.
>> Yeah, I just have two more questions.

675
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:52,240
» Yeah. I know I just want to I just want
a clarification because I I think where

676
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,599
you're going I like where you're going
in the sense of you know we get the

677
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,839
technical reports and everything else we
get the reports of impacts from other

678
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:04,160
departments you know you you know they
check that it's good but what happens

679
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:09,200
from a resident's perspective and I
don't think we don't have that now we

680
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:13,599
experience it from a council perspective
when we get calls and so on but maybe

681
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:19,520
that's something that we start adding
into these things that have major impact

682
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:23,520
on on construction. So even if we're
talking about a paving project down the

683
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,280
town or something like that, what does
that mean for the residents there? If

684
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:33,039
it's a threeh hour or a six, you know,
one day issue or just so that we take

685
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:36,960
them to Amazon. What's your
>> Yeah, I'll give you the example of a

686
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:42,799
business that has laid off four of their
employees because of this construction.

687
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:47,599
And um I understand things have changed
between now and March, but perhaps there

688
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:52,720
could have been information shared with
council and with that business in the in

689
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,400
June that could have directed their
hiring decisions that could have

690
01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:02,240
supported, you know, you know, when we
see this sort of construction, this is

691
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:10,079
the the range of potential impact on
your type of business. Like to me, that

692
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:15,039
would be a a pretty value add ecodev
uh supporting guidance.

693
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:19,280
Um
if I may, just two other kind of random

694
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:23,359
questions. The first one is the parking
lot. Uh there was last time I was down

695
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:27,680
there, there was partial blocking of
that parking lot. I think I'm not sure

696
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,839
if they were storing something there. It
was staging. So, is that expected to

697
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,799
continue to be blocked for much longer?
Is that already open?

698
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:44,716
uh will be utilized portion of it until
we're done on the east end. Yes.

699
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:49,039
» And the other question that I had was uh
[snorts] at the beginning of the report

700
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:57,119
mentioned
roundabouts along 300 next year.

701
01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:02,240
We have those. We'll have the phase I
think still coming to St. Yong this

702
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:09,359
section next year
and we'll have the sing uh

703
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:15,200
the overpass work that's going to happen
next year as well. Um

704
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:19,039
I guess two twoprong question. The first
question is, are there any immediate

705
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:22,160
concerns that the administration has
about those things happening all in

706
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:28,559
tandem
for circulation or is there

707
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,400
are there any hard stop concerns about
all of those things happening at the

708
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:37,200
same time or are there workarounds and
detours? Well, we'll be able to manage

709
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,400
with all those construction planned in
the in our

710
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:43,680
» 300 is going through a lot of
construction and this section of North

711
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:47,920
Dam is going through a lot of
construction.

712
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,720
That's two main arteries for people to
get west

713
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,640
» and uh
>> that would be very difficult to

714
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:58,799
» Yeah. And
then that one's closed anyway. So

715
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,520
» San was going to completely be paid next
year as well,

716
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:06,000
» right?
>> That's why they did the call. So that

717
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:12,400
will also be that
>> but the flip side will be underutilized

718
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:19,120
next year since you won't be you'll be
able to go only towards Montreal

719
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:23,600
um heading north on Sangon.
So we'll see way more traffic using

720
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:29,759
towards Russell and
>> which at the same time we'll be working

721
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:36,040
on two intersections with lights being
>> um for that's designed for next year.

722
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Yes,

723
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,839
» lots of conversations for the community,
lots of information that people are

724
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:48,960
going to be seeking. And I know that
we're also uh council has

725
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:54,319
uh planned to invest in town halls next
year as well. So, I know open houses are

726
01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:59,839
usually a little bit focused on certain
areas, but I I'm seeing an increased

727
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:06,080
need for more information, more
engagement, um, and not just

728
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:12,000
specifically for for pockets, but for
folks to really uh, and of course taking

729
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:17,440
that lesson learned that we need to have
the the clearest, most certain

730
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:20,440
information when that comes.
announce

731
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:28,080
» I'm just looking forward to seeing I
mean we're going to have a difficult

732
01:09:25,679 --> 01:09:32,719
decision but I I would like to see more
information and for us to at least have

733
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:39,839
explored what are the different impacts
what is the worst least worst option of

734
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:46,239
of doing a full l uh a full road closure
as the administration's um

735
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:49,440
going in that direction or
alternating

736
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:53,199
Yeah. So,
so I'll

737
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:57,920
based on what we said earlier on, we're
expecting this to come back to council

738
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:03,360
with with
options and and cost and benefit of

739
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:07,679
those options.
Um [clears throat] either the one lane

740
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:14,560
or the full closure. And then the other
aspect in terms of those three access

741
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:20,560
points to that community to that to that
section, do we actually close or not?

742
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:24,080
I'm still not comfortable closing it,
but

743
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,159
because we had we had it in April for
that time frame and uh yes, there were

744
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:33,040
challenges with that, but I think we had
gotten to the to a place where people

745
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:38,640
knew it was temporary. But again,
that'll be something that council will

746
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:46,400
lean on at the next meeting. Is that a
fair interpretation, Card? But just make

747
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:52,719
one request if council could be um could
receive an official briefing on this by

748
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:56,159
email. Um because we're going to be um
in the community talking to residents

749
01:10:54,480 --> 01:11:02,400
enforcement the next couple weeks and I
want to know um what the what the best

750
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:07,280
clearest most helpful message would be
for residents uh during this time of

751
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:13,120
uncertainty having with us not having
made any specific decision.

752
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,560
Well, the the current status and uh the
direction that's coming back in two

753
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,560
weeks. Is that what you're like? You're
looking for a briefing of that or a

754
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,920
briefing after we've had that discussion
in two weeks.

755
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:26,960
» I just like I guess what I would like to
know is what is the information that's

756
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,480
going to be shared with residents and
businesses? The administration talked

757
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:34,960
about
>> immediate communication. So, I'd like to

758
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:41,040
also receive that so that I know what
the the official word is.

759
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:44,400
So, so essentially I can res the the
information I provided tonight I can

760
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:49,640
resume it in an email to council
members.

761
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,640
» Yeah.

762
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:59,000
» Thank you. Um,
anything else to add on this counselor?

763
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,000
Well,

764
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:08,480
» I just want to go back to uh
comment that was made about when you

765
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:14,159
added the the notion of the traffic
lights in muscle

766
01:12:10,719 --> 01:12:20,400
and I believe Mr. Roman answer was that
it would be the design plan that would

767
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:23,840
take next year. So, I just need a little
clarification on that. I know it's not

768
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:27,920
part of the main report, but because it
was said,

769
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:32,239
um,
I know that they've painted out the

770
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:37,600
intersections, both of them, right now,
there's all kinds of I I imagine, well,

771
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:42,480
I understood that they might be coming
to do some of that painting work to find

772
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:47,840
all the lines, and that's what has
happened at both intersections.

773
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:54,560
So I thought that that was the design uh
element of this fall but that there

774
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:58,960
would be construction next year and so
am I right in understanding with what

775
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:03,760
you just said Mr. Bog
that it'll still be in the design phase

776
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:08,560
for next year with no construction Mr.
Mayor Mr. Bog

777
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:14,800
Mr. I'll start by saying it's a county
road and or the the project it's led by

778
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:22,080
the counties. Uh so from the last update
I received they were hiring the

779
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:26,080
consultant uh late this year completing
the design and award tender next year.

780
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:30,719
That was my understanding for
construction in 2028.

781
01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:35,120
Again not being the lead or not
responsible for that project. that would

782
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,480
revalidate all that information with the
counties.

783
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:42,560
» Can we uh can we get that as a followup
then?

784
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:48,560
» We can do that. Thank you.
>> As part of that followup, they if they

785
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:54,880
do confirm that it's design in 2027 and
construction 2028

786
01:13:51,040 --> 01:14:00,320
when that time frame moved cuz I've
always been under the the I guess

787
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:08,080
assumption
that it was construction 2027.

788
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:12,640
That was always the the time frame. So,
I'd like to understand when when

789
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:16,480
counties made a decision to move it to
2028

790
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:21,840
because I know that council members have
been asked about that on multiple

791
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:27,440
occasions in the community and I think
for the most probably all given the same

792
01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:31,760
next year 2027 it's going to be those
lights are going in and you hear oh

793
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:36,880
thank goodness that's great I can't wait
just like the the lights at 80 that time

794
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:40,960
frame kept moving and moving and moving
and moving at the moment. I just want to

795
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:47,199
understand why when and why that would
have moved from originally

796
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:55,280
and I do fully appreciate this your
project. Thank you councelor Le.

797
01:14:52,239 --> 01:15:00,880
Yeah, I just want to echo councelor Mo
comment and I you know I appreciate it's

798
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:06,400
not our admin that's in charge of this
project but I also won't share my

799
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:12,159
frustration. I mean, it was when I came
to council four years ago that we talked

800
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:16,640
about um the rehabilitation, the needed
rehabilitation of the sidewalks there

801
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:22,960
and more important or more specifically
the interlock and the tree stumps that

802
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:26,080
are stuck in there. And then it became
over time the fact that well since

803
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:30,640
they're going to be putting in
intersections and uh you know we

804
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:36,880
wouldn't consider doing any of that
work. uh in fact I remember it was it

805
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:43,199
was expected to be 2026
and the reason or 2027

806
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,600
2026 but because of so many projects
going on between the two villages that

807
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:51,840
it didn't it just wouldn't happen with
the counties that they could do ember

808
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:56,960
and our intersections at the same time.
So my understanding was 2026. I just

809
01:15:55,199 --> 01:16:01,679
want to
you know so that's now five four or five

810
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:06,400
years of waiting for the interlock to be
rehabilitated for the sake of

811
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:12,640
accessibility and pedestrians. And I
know I've been made to understand that

812
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:18,480
it's not part of the essential or the uh
critical pathway which is the concrete

813
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,159
sidewalk itself. But it's still all
connected. people move over to one side

814
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:28,719
to let others pass on the concrete. So I
just a bit frustrated because it's

815
01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:34,960
something I brought for the budget four
years ago but

816
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:41,360
and again I don't blame staff but
yeah just to clarify I

817
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:46,640
put you on the spot there that money set
aside for thatation

818
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:51,080
it's there for when we eventually get
there right the sidewalks

819
01:16:52,320 --> 01:17:01,920
» well that would be part of our um asset
replacement reserves that would fund

820
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:06,120
those those replacement of assets.
>> Well, it would be part of the

821
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:16,960
» Okay.
So, um are we comfortable ming

822
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,960
the direction from this council on this
item?

823
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:26,080
Thank you. Okay, let's tap challenge.
The next one's going to be very

824
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:32,480
challenging.
The council receives report ISPW2026-2

825
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:39,400
dated August 31st, 2026 and adopt the
name Kin Club Drive and Alliance Street

826
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,400
for the two street segments.

827
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,920
Perfect.

828
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,560
Community grants item.

829
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:30,480
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Council. No, I
think that the report speaks for itself.

830
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:36,480
Um, Miss F is already uh contributing uh
almost $2,500 worth in sat time and

831
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:39,920
trucks and road closures. So, we thought
that, you know, it was a good

832
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:46,800
contribution.
>> Yeah. See, I guess my next casual

833
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:52,000
» that income $2,500. Is that tracked
anywhere against the budget or is that

834
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:56,159
simply just a figure that we're that
we're

835
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:00,239
putting in the report? We usually track
the end time, but

836
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:08,719
» uh we're not tracking this in the
budget. Uh that's all to say.

837
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:15,679
» Anything else on this item? Thank you.
Uh item I that the council receives

838
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:21,120
report CSL2026-8
dated August 31st 2026 and approve the

839
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:28,880
proposed bylaw to appoint a roster of
five members to the 2026 23 compliance

840
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:34,080
audit committee for municipal election
anything to add

841
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:40,000
» no Mr. We are just going to say that we
need to approve this before uh October.

842
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:45,280
So all municies and the counties are
doing this uh at their present meetings.

843
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:50,320
» We have three returning members and two
new applicants and uh all

844
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:54,400
municipalities.
Correct?

845
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:59,920
» Questions, comments, members of council
moving forward. Uh item J. Please note

846
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:04,080
that certain bylaws not requiring
administrative reports, including but

847
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:08,080
not limited to bylaws to exempt certain
lands from law control and committee

848
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:13,280
appointment bylaws will appear
exclusively under item 16 bylaws rather

849
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:18,800
than under item 11 reports from
departments and council committees.

850
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:23,600
We move to item 12, reports from
investigator Robinsman. We have none.

851
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:27,679
Item 13, notice of motion. We have none.
Item 14,

852
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:35,040
questions on meeting of the day. Anybody
questions? Questions? No.

853
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:38,920
There is nobody in the room and so I
will not read the disclosure.

854
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:48,920
Item 15. Um, so I think we have item
11B. Is that correct?

855
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:54,080
» Yes.
So motion that council approve all

856
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:58,320
recommendations listed on the agenda
item under item 11 reports from

857
01:20:56,239 --> 01:21:01,920
departments and council committees. Move
and second put this on the table. Moved

858
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:07,840
by councelor Lauren seconded by
councelor Deacon. Questions, comments

859
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:14,000
and removal of items. So 11B to be
removed.

860
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:18,840
Uh item counced by councelor Armstrong.
All in favor to remove 11B.

861
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:32,800
So we passed. Um and so um
um um sorry um okay so call for the vote

862
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:41,480
for all items listed under 11 as
amended. All in favor

863
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:41,480
and pass. All right. Go back to 11B.

864
01:21:53,040 --> 01:22:00,480
The council receives report PD 202632
date of August 31st 2026 and maintain

865
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:05,120
the current notice period and
notification process for minor bearances

866
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:09,600
and applications sorry minor bearance
applications and post notifications on

867
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:15,520
the township website to maximize the
public vis visibility and transparency.

868
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:19,600
See move second to put it on the table
by councelor Lauren. Second by councelor

869
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:24,320
const questions comments or amendments
councelor

870
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:31,840
going to put an amendment on the table
sort of one piece of it and hope that we

871
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:39,199
can look at another or the next council
will look at it uh maybe two years in or

872
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:44,159
once people complain. So my amendment
would be that we move our we move the

873
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:50,800
township's minimum standard from 10 days
to 15 days not deliberation.

874
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:57,800
So I have a mover uh
to move to 15 days from 10 days. Do I

875
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,800
have a seconder on that amendment?

876
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:07,920
No second on the amendment.
I'll second the amendment to uh discuss

877
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:12,159
the item.
Yes, sir. Lori.

878
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:19,520
» Yes. I'm just wondering the cost aspect
that we talked about was was on the

879
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:24,320
delivery of the um either register mail
or in person. Correct.

880
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:29,440
» Mr. Boff,
>> uh yes, the the the extra cost would be

881
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:33,840
on the delivery portion of of the
changes of the level of service. So

882
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:37,920
there would be no cost to the township
to make a decision to send things out 5

883
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:42,080
days soon.
>> There is a challenge in terms of uh in

884
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:48,000
the report if I remember correctly in
this year please clarify but in

885
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:53,440
extending it to a 15 day there was an
impact uh from both the proponents

886
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:57,360
perspective and from the process
perspective. Correct.

887
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:03,840
» Exactly. There's that that portion on in
the report for implication. So all the

888
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:06,400
timing exactly from the for for the and
for when the meetings are planned as

889
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:10,800
well.
>> Yeah. So and that's because of having

890
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:15,360
the planning meeting once a month.
Correct.

891
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:19,199
» Correct. And we're also um we're now
we're now above what the act is asking

892
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:23,760
for.
>> Yeah. So the act requires 10 days.

893
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:29,760
So this one
>> and and also the only person that can uh

894
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:35,653
do an appeal based on the timing of the
notice sent out it's the applicant

895
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:37,679
himself. Just uh I think it's an
[clears throat] important piece for

896
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:43,440
council to
>> Yeah. Can you just clarify?

897
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:48,000
Can you just clarify? So so the
applicant themselves are the only person

898
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:52,000
that can appeal. So adding 5 days for
potentially residents that do not see it

899
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:54,960
has no impact on the next residence is
what you're explain.

900
01:24:52,800 --> 01:25:00,639
» Exactly. So the the resident that feel
that they didn't have enough time to

901
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:03,920
receive the notice cannot appeal on that
specific matter on the regardless of the

902
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:07,760
amount of
>> they can they can appeal that like but

903
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:11,080
just not the component of the notice
sent out.

904
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:21,199
» Yeah. So, if I'm a resident, there's
something going on down across the

905
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:27,840
street from me and we send stuff out
under the minimum guideline

906
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:33,120
of the act. Minimum gu of the act
doesn't mean we have to follow the

907
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:38,880
minimum guideline. We could go a greater
time frame. But now, I'm a resident and

908
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:44,239
I don't get the notification until the
report comes out on the Friday. So late

909
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Friday afternoon and the meetings on
Monday,

910
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:52,639
township offices are closed until Monday
morning and I can't get any information

911
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:57,199
other than what's on the memo, which is
not very much information.

912
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:02,000
How is that person supposed to be able
to come to the meeting and make

913
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:07,679
objections
to or plead their case to the committee

914
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:15,199
and ask someone who sits on that
committee to then hear them? knowing

915
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:21,040
that if we go ahead and approve it, they
have no appeal process at all, which

916
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:26,239
ultimately leads them to believe that
the whole process was a sham and they

917
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:29,840
have no say in it. Why do we even send
out notifications?

918
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:36,480
So
I believe that to ensure that they get

919
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:43,760
the information well before the meeting
date that we should be going a little

920
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:49,840
bit beyond the timing of the minimum
standard that the act provides and go to

921
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:53,600
15 days. And if we need to change the
timing of meetings then we change the

922
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:59,520
timing of meetings.
Right? There are minor variances.

923
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:07,199
I'm asking to change the the timing for
for every single type of zoning and and

924
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:12,480
um what's it called? Uh
not separations but uh severances

925
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:18,880
severances like things like that. I'm
asking for the minor variances.

926
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:24,480
So, I I believe that we should at least
give them a 15-day notice

927
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:30,800
so that we send it out in time so that
people receive it in a reasonable time

928
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:36,639
and the most recent ones people receive
them on the Friday before the meeting.

929
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,080
So, just that's my point.
>> Thank you, counselor. I have cash for

930
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:44,320
the loan not just with the board cash
for the long time I made and I just have

931
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:50,480
a question in terms of if I receive this
on Friday this notice with the added

932
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:54,560
information on the website that we
discussed am I going to be able to have

933
01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:59,679
all the information I need for the
Monday meeting CM

934
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,639
» yes yes we will
>> because now we will have all the details

935
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,840
on this correct
>> so that's an an added uh information

936
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:10,320
source
>> I just want to clarif council.

937
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:16,239
» So that's my point too. I mean I take
counselor Lawrence's point. I was at

938
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:21,360
these meetings with him. There was some
animated discussion. But the other flip

939
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:27,120
side of this is we're talking about the
proponent as well. The residents

940
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:31,120
certainly have to have a decent
bit of time in which to become

941
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:35,360
acquainted with the material. And I
think you know driving people to the

942
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:43,199
website especially the new design
website this is all for good purpose and

943
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:47,520
and for for reasons of efficiency. I
think we just need to communicate that

944
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:52,320
well that now that feature will be
available to them and they'll have that

945
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:56,960
information a little sooner than was the
case more recently when they got it a

946
01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:01,440
little later. But I'm I'm thinking of
the proponent as well that you know why

947
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:05,199
should they have to wait or have to skip
a meeting because

948
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:11,280
uh you know we needed to get that
information out a few days sooner

949
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:16,239
because of a weekend coming. If I think
if we have it on the website and the

950
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:21,400
information's complete is why I would
support the support staff's

951
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,400
recommendations.

952
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,600
Uh um

953
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:38,800
if a proponent puts in or makes an
application today the 31st of August for

954
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:45,600
a minor variance
uh that means that

955
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:52,800
we have to have the minor variance heard
within 30 days. So that would be the the

956
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:58,960
30th of uh September.
Um

957
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:05,040
we send out notice so that a uh a
resident gets the notice. Do they rece

958
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:11,760
have to receive the notice 10 days prior
to the meeting or do they have do we

959
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:18,080
have to send the notice
10 days prior to the meeting?

960
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:24,960
» Uh we need to send a notice the with the
10 within the 10 in that 10 days. So we

961
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:27,760
send the notice within 10 days of the
meeting

962
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:32,719
» of the meeting.
Um

963
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:38,159
why not 15?
What I mean I I mean so so we send a no

964
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:42,719
5 days earlier. We put it on our website
5 days earlier. Whatever it goes on the

965
01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:47,280
website. That's the the means that we're
going to use and it's it's the lawful

966
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:53,120
needs. So we put it out 5 days earlier.
It's the applicant that has to have a

967
01:30:50,159 --> 01:31:00,239
complete application before the process
starts by if I re uh remember correctly

968
01:30:57,679 --> 01:31:05,760
and if the applicant application is
deficient then the time doesn't start

969
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:12,400
until the application is is fully
received. So we give 15 days notice.

970
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:19,679
Um I'm not sure why that doesn't uh
simply be easier for everybody.

971
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:29,840
I think in the report clarify please but
it does have a domino effect on when the

972
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:33,040
when they would appear at the planning
open.

973
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:37,520
» Well, I was going to mention the exact
same thing. I think it's fairly clear in

974
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:42,800
our like the impact that those extra
days could have and the our

975
01:31:40,719 --> 01:31:49,600
recommendations to maintain the 10 days
follow the act. Um, and we need to keep

976
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:55,360
in mind it's it's a minor variance
because it's minor in nature.

977
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:59,120
So that's that's the whole idea as well
behind the that context.

978
01:31:57,199 --> 01:32:04,719
» Thank you, councelor.
>> Yes. To to the administration and to

979
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:09,440
planning department, it's minor in
nature

980
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:15,679
to the residents that it's affecting
potentially. It's not minor nature. So

981
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:20,480
just because it's called minor variance
doesn't mean it's a small impact. There

982
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:25,520
are multiple impacts to the requests
that come through and in fact in the

983
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:30,080
most recent circumstances there were
three very significant components to

984
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:36,159
each one of the minor variance requests
that to me each one of them individually

985
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:41,840
ought to have been a separate minor
variance and we combine the three of

986
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:46,080
them into one minor variance. So to the
resident that lives across the street

987
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:53,120
down the down the down the way the next
door neighbor it's not minors and them

988
01:32:48,960 --> 01:33:00,080
and I get it but if if if we're talking
about if I put an application in on

989
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:05,679
September 1st and the meeting for the
planning committee is September

990
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:10,480
20th
and I and and that meeting has to happen

991
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:16,639
within 30 days of me submitting my
request. Then that meeting on September

992
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:22,239
20th is the meeting I'm shooting for,
which means a sign has to be created and

993
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:27,280
put up no later than 10 days prior to.
So by September 10th, they have to put a

994
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:30,960
sign up on their property. Unless I'm
missing something, please tell me when

995
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:36,480
I'm wrong. They have to put a sign up on
their lawn and staff at that point on

996
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:40,560
the on the 10th will send out that
notification.

997
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:46,880
What's the difference in resending on
the 5th other than drafting it? It has

998
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:52,159
no difference in the timing of when that
meeting will happen. The only difference

999
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:56,480
that I that I could see is if they come
in and put their application in on

1000
01:33:54,080 --> 01:34:01,840
September 10th, they can never get to
the September 20th meeting. And

1001
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:06,880
therefore, we would have to wait till
either have an early planning meeting in

1002
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:09,840
October or they would have to wait until
the planning meeting in October, which

1003
01:34:08,639 --> 01:34:14,560
would be late October.
>> I think that was the point the

1004
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:18,719
» but that means they came in later
anyway. They would have missed the

1005
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:24,560
meeting. So, in the circumstance where
they're they delayed coming in to get it

1006
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:28,639
in time for the meeting, that's on the
proponent.

1007
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:32,239
We, you know, and and I I get it. We
want to make sure we're satisfying both

1008
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:39,360
sides, but remember, the proponent is
the only one that is able to object to

1009
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:44,560
any decision that is made, not the
people in the room, not the people that

1010
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:50,400
are that may be deemed to have been
affected. And all I'm trying to do is

1011
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:55,760
make is make sure people get that notice
in advance so they have enough time to

1012
01:34:52,400 --> 01:35:00,800
review it and make proper comment to it.
Whether the comment changes the

1013
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:06,000
decision, probably not in most cases,
but at least they've had the ability to

1014
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:10,800
see it in advance and do it. And if we
don't if we don't vote in favor of the

1015
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:16,480
15 days, I make another amendment that
we actually do the uh registered service

1016
01:35:14,639 --> 01:35:21,040
and or personal service if there's only
one or two.

1017
01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:27,199
» Quick question pertaining to the
amendment. You know, why not 20 days?

1018
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:34,480
Then that would be even better.
What's the rationale for 50

1019
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:41,280
» that it's greater than 10 and will allow
it will allow for any delays in mailing

1020
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:46,320
because we mail them regular mail and
with 10 days if it's a Friday you got

1021
01:35:43,679 --> 01:35:50,159
the weekend you got the second weekend
that counts in there so there's maybe

1022
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:56,000
the delivery gets delayed and that
person never gets it on time so or there

1023
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:59,760
could be a holiday in there so I'm just
concerned that that people are and this

1024
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:04,400
isn't the first time that it's not just
because it's the first time this

1025
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:08,320
happened. There's been many times that
this has happened in my 18 years sitting

1026
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:11,600
on the planning committee that people
have complained that they don't get

1027
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:18,000
things in time and we always send them
out within 10 days. So all I'm all I'm

1028
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:22,159
saying is let's give it an extra 5 days.
Could it be 20 days? Yeah, it could be

1029
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:26,400
20 days.
I'm saying just give us give another

1030
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:32,480
five days so that the mail can do its
job and get it to the member or the

1031
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:36,639
member get it to the resident in enough
time for them to actually make a phone

1032
01:36:34,639 --> 01:36:40,560
call if they need to see somebody or
talk to somebody about it or come into

1033
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:43,600
the township office. That's all I'm
asking.

1034
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:48,639
» Okay. Thank you, Councelor Lolo, then
councelor then.

1035
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:54,800
» I'm going to respectfully disagree with
councelor B. So, I've seen this twice in

1036
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:59,600
four years on council on the planning
advisory committee. I think it's twice

1037
01:36:56,639 --> 01:37:04,080
now that I've seen this. Uh the only
better than

1038
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:09,600
adding five days on for mailing out
purposes is putting it on the website.

1039
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:14,480
That's a lot faster than going through
the mail out process. I mean, they'll

1040
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:20,159
have to do that for sure in any case,
but they'll have the website now as a a

1041
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:25,920
new feature with the detail and that's
uh that's instantaneous.

1042
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:30,800
Um, as I understand it, there's a sign
that goes on the property as well. Am I

1043
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:35,840
not correct? So, the sign is there, too.
And as long as I mean, we've had some

1044
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:44,560
issues with uh the signage maybe not
being properly uh located on the site.

1045
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:53,520
Um but uh when that's been made uh known
to staff that changes or the remediation

1046
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:58,400
work was done so there's a sign and
there's a website and it can go up

1047
01:37:55,440 --> 01:38:05,520
quickly and I think they go a long way
to uh allowing us just to follow the

1048
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:08,560
policy so that they you know and to to
look at the dates while we could play

1049
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:12,480
around with different dates in some
cases it works out well in other cases

1050
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:16,800
it still doesn't work out well depending
on what time of the month it is or

1051
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:21,199
whether there's a holiday or something
in place. So again with the sign with

1052
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:29,320
the website with the detailed
information I'm good with the way it it

1053
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:29,320
stands now. Thank you. Cros

1054
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:38,239
just clarify something for me and we go
back to the um uh the administrative

1055
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:43,199
window example that's in your report. I
don't know if they want to put that on

1056
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:48,960
the screen, but um uh figure to the
administrative window. So, Monday,

1057
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:52,520
September 21st, there is a committee of
adjustment hearing.

1058
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:11,760
» Okay. Right there.
>> Okay. So currently Monday the 21st of

1059
01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:18,320
September there is a committee of
adjustment hearing and there's another

1060
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:27,920
one on the 19th of October.
This 30-day window we're talking about

1061
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:34,400
or if somebody comes in and submits a
completed application on say Monday the

1062
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:38,560
5th of October.
Do we have 30 days to hear that

1063
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:44,880
application
or

1064
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:51,760
uh because it's there's not much time to
get it in on the 19th 14 days and that

1065
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:57,520
would mean that the next hearing would
be if there's 30 days requirement we

1066
01:39:54,719 --> 01:40:04,960
would be required to hold a uh committee
of adjustments hearing mid November

1067
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:09,679
the 30-day piece Uh I think in the
report it talks about making a decision

1068
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:14,560
but I think the 30-day timeline was to
have the hearing and the committee after

1069
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:20,600
that can reserve their decision.
So I think the 30 days to have that

1070
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,600
hearing correct then Mr.

1071
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:29,280
» Yeah that's my understanding
>> that answer your question. So how do we

1072
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:34,719
accommodate that if do we add committee
of adjustment meetings uh to meet the uh

1073
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:39,280
the date that the applicant just happens
to walk in and submit his completed

1074
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:44,960
application. So with the 10day we don't
have the issue by increasing it to the

1075
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:50,880
15 day then we presumably mean to meet
that requirement using your example

1076
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:55,280
we would be challenged in meeting that
requirement correct that was the point

1077
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:59,119
of the report. Yeah, exactly.
>> So, if he comes in on the 5th, we have

1078
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:03,360
to hold a committee of adjustment
meeting on the 19th.

1079
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:08,480
We'll plan an additional committee of
adjustment meeting.

1080
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:10,719
» We go with 15 days if he comes in on the
5th.

1081
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:16,320
» No, no, no. He he doesn't matter what
the the notice is. If a submitted

1082
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:20,560
application complete comes in on the
5th,

1083
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:25,040
» it has to be addressed.
>> It has to be addressed within 30 days.

1084
01:41:22,639 --> 01:41:29,440
» That's correct. So we have to add an
additional

1085
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:32,960
» additional meeting somewhere in between
those dates

1086
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:37,199
» and it could never be on the 19th in
that scenario. If he comes in on the 5th

1087
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:40,880
» it would be it would be on the 19th
because we have calendar.

1088
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,360
» Well it says that's when the planning
meeting would be

1089
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:50,639
right or the committee of adjustments
meeting. So if somebody came in on the

1090
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,840
5th and put in an application in, they
wouldn't be heard until nove

1091
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,840
» they wouldn't be heard until the
November meeting.

1092
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:59,040
» Correct.
>> Yeah, that's correct.

1093
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:04,080
» So what's the delay in and and what's
the issue of setting up 15 days before?

1094
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:07,520
» There's there's also the component we're
adding

1095
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:10,239
more time frame for the applicant when
it's a minor variance.

1096
01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:15,520
» It has it [clears throat] has nothing to
do with the with the applicant. It's our

1097
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:19,280
internal process for us to send out the
notification. and we send it out 5 days

1098
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:23,199
earlier. Unless you tell me there's a
there's a reason why we can't print the

1099
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:29,560
notices off and mail them out 5 days
earlier. I I don't see the the staff

1100
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,560
issue

1101
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:35,760
and there's that's one piece.
>> Well, it just changes everything and

1102
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:39,920
you're adding Why would we add more time
when the act act ask for 10?

1103
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:43,760
» There could be a that could be a
requirement by the committee. That's

1104
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:48,400
that's a fair that's that's council's
ability to do that. But that's not a qu.

1105
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:54,080
The question here is whether it has an
impact on the process. Does it improve

1106
01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:58,239
it materially or does it not improve it
in

1107
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:04,560
there's a there's an error in the timing
you're

1108
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:10,239
because if you're saying that the
the date of October 2nd is the date

1109
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:18,639
notice is issued for the October meeting
and that's the 10day wait 10day window.

1110
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:22,639
How is the fourth 15 days
in red?

1111
01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:26,679
It would be the 25th under that
scenario, not the fourth.

1112
01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:37,400
» Yeah, go ahead.
>> It's just very basic. Does that is it

1113
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:37,400
because it's 10 business days because

1114
01:43:40,639 --> 01:43:48,600
that example it's to show the 15
That's showing 50.

1115
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,600
» Oh, that's showing the impact.

1116
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:56,960
» Yeah, I haven't really weighed in on
this yet. What I want to say is that I

1117
01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:01,840
think that
some really, well, I've gained a lot of

1118
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:06,080
insight tonight on some of the
challenges that are facing residents who

1119
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:13,280
are having minor variances, including
potentially several minor variances on

1120
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:19,760
the same neighboring property. Um,
and I'm also taking the staff's

1121
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:25,280
recommendation and it seems like we're
all going in the direction of improving

1122
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:30,480
this. And I do believe that as a at a
minimum putting this information on the

1123
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:35,119
website so that folks can access it as
soon as they are notified and without,

1124
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:38,159
you know, getting those extra questions
that they may have or details that they

1125
01:44:36,719 --> 01:44:43,199
want to see that those be available
online. I do see that as an improvement.

1126
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:48,960
Um
I don't see tonight a full rationale and

1127
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:53,760
I see actually to the contrary staff
saying that this is not a recommended

1128
01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:59,600
approach to go all in on on increasing
it to a 15-day. I'm comfortable with um

1129
01:44:57,119 --> 01:45:05,600
iterative improvement improving in this
way continuing to listen and monitor how

1130
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:09,440
that online notice serves people or
doesn't.

1131
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:15,199
Final words, councelor Laur?
>> Yeah, I

1132
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:19,440
I find that again I find this this
figure too misleading

1133
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:24,719
and I want to make sure we we're all on
the same understanding because when we

1134
01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:29,600
say 10day notice period, can you put it
on the 2nd of October?

1135
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:36,480
Do you say that's a 10-day notice period
for the October 19th meeting?

1136
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:41,679
Then that's actually 10 business day
notice.

1137
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:45,600
» M.
So just to clarify that this example is

1138
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:50,320
really to show that 15-day notice
period. The reason the four is in red is

1139
01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:54,400
is because it's a Sunday. We would have
to send them out on the second to to

1140
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:59,280
respect that 15 day. It's not 15. It's
not 15 business days. It's 15 calendar

1141
01:45:56,639 --> 01:46:05,119
days. So, where's the 10? So, when when
would the 108 notice go up in this

1142
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:08,400
scenario?
>> I thought I was trying to show that. I

1143
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:12,560
thought I was trying to show the both
the differences between the two.

1144
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:15,560
» The 10 day would be the nine.
>> Mhm.

1145
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:24,480
» So, a week before. So, it's business
days.

1146
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:31,280
» Oh, it's 19 - 10 is
okay. So, so Okay. So then so it wasn't

1147
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:34,880
clear then in the in the in the uh
legend amendments.

1148
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:37,679
» So that's fine. Let's just vote on it
and we'll go from there and I'll make

1149
01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:40,080
another amendment and make sure it
doesn't go through.

1150
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:44,960
» Thank you. Sir, we have an amendment on
the table to change from 10 to 15 days

1151
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:49,520
correctly.
>> Madam Kan, that's correct. And uh

1152
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:54,159
councelor is asking for a registered
vote. So call for the vote. Uh councelor

1153
01:46:52,719 --> 01:46:57,440
Armstrong.
>> Yes. Pastor Lauren,

1154
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,760
» yes.
>> Pastor Lean,

1155
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:01,840
» no.
>> Pastor Lawren,

1156
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,719
» no.
>> Myself, no as well.

1157
01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:14,159
» Lauren, amendments.
>> Amendments

1158
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:18,560
that uh that we send the notice the
notices uh the 10day notices by

1159
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:23,560
registered mail.
>> Okay. Do I have a secondary on that

1160
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,560
amendment?

1161
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:29,639
There is no second on that if

1162
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:37,719
vote on the non- amended resolution as
it was.

1163
01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:46,560
Yeah. Call for the vote on the um on the
motion as it was presented originally.

1164
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:50,080
Councelor Lauren is asking for a
registered vote. Councelor Armstrong.

1165
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:54,239
» Yes.
>> Councelor Lauren.

1166
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:56,639
» No. Councelor Degan.
>> Yes.

1167
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:59,840
» Councelor Leon.
>> Yes.

1168
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:06,080
» Myself. Yes.
Thank you. Moving to item 16,

1169
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:10,719
bylaws.
Motion that C council approve bylaws

1170
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:14,560
2026-87
to 2026-92

1171
01:48:12,639 --> 01:48:19,600
exclusively for first, second, and third
meeting as listed on the agenda. This is

1172
01:48:17,679 --> 01:48:25,119
moved by
councelor Lauren, seconded by councelor.

1173
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:29,800
Call for the vote. All in favor and all
members are in favor. Thank you.

1174
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:42,159
17 new business reports. We have none.
18 public consultations hearing. So we

1175
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:47,840
have none. We go to item 19
presented by council members.

1176
01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:51,199
Uh we'll take a break before the uh
close session. So we'll keep rolling on

1177
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:59,920
that. Was a counselor comfortable with
that? Perfect. So um item 19

1178
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:05,760
um counc
timeline for red complex.

1179
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:10,480
» Thank you. It's been a few months and
folks are still watching the uh the

1180
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:15,440
construction taking place at the
complex. much anticipation, especially

1181
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:19,600
I'm hearing from ICE users who are
wondering when they're going to be able

1182
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:23,840
to hit the ice and the new three pads
that will be at that complex. So, I was

1183
01:49:22,239 --> 01:49:27,840
wanted to take the opportunity as we're
coming back from the summer break to ask

1184
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:34,239
if there are updates on the timing for
the rec complex opening uh and as well

1185
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:37,280
an update on when uh folks who have
expressed interest in ICE will begin to

1186
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:42,159
hear back.
>> Thank you uh Madame Nita. Let's just see

1187
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:46,400
yours today.
What is yours?

1188
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:51,199
» Thank you, Mr. Ray. Council. Um, so for
the timeline, the last update that I

1189
01:49:48,639 --> 01:49:57,360
received was the same one that I shared
with council back in June. That was the

1190
01:49:54,159 --> 01:50:02,880
July 31st report and it was still on
November 5th. That's for the occupancy.

1191
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:08,880
Um so I will be receiving probably
sometime next week uh the August report

1192
01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:14,239
and I was also planning to make an
update uh for the operational and

1193
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:19,040
construction uh both reports in uh
September to council. So if there's any

1194
01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:26,480
changes those uh will be presented at
that time. Um as for the uh regular ice

1195
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:31,679
users, they've all been advised uh like
we had mentioned in our report in June

1196
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:39,040
uh that regular ice users would get the
same hours uh for the period of January

1197
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:45,119
to April. Uh for the third ICE uh we
would uh start uh jotting down a mockup

1198
01:50:42,719 --> 01:50:52,000
schedule with all the requests that we
have received prior to June 30th of this

1199
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:58,880
year. So with this uh mockup schedule uh
the uh recreation complex uh manager

1200
01:50:55,360 --> 01:51:05,119
will be uh contacting uh these people
that show an interest

1201
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:10,880
uh and those are for the new users um
and then if there's any uh temp time

1202
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:17,920
left then we will go back to the regular
users. uh but this will not be done uh

1203
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:23,440
prior to when we have a a very good idea
of when we are opening obviously because

1204
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:27,679
we do not want to mislead people. So if
they have some ice time in January,

1205
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:33,360
let's say we don't want anybody to lose
ice time. If they have secure ice time

1206
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:39,040
somewhere and uh let's say in October
then we're not too sure they p they push

1207
01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:43,520
the date. So we want to make sure uh so
that we don't disappoint anybody. So

1208
01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:49,360
this will be done later this fall like
we had mentioned in our June report.

1209
01:51:46,719 --> 01:51:53,119
» Thank you. Counc
>> just a point of clarification. So, did

1210
01:51:51,679 --> 01:51:58,400
you mention that there was a report on
July 31st regarding over time?

1211
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:03,280
» That that's a that's a report that we
received from the general contractor,

1212
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:07,119
but obviously I did not make any update
with council because we had no meetings.

1213
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:12,320
Uh, but it's still the same. It was
still the same thing.

1214
01:52:08,719 --> 01:52:18,080
» Yes, it was provided.
>> Yeah. Thank you. And then, uh, if I

1215
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:23,840
understand correctly, um, potential new
users are being advised that they would

1216
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:28,800
that they would be planning to hit the
>> they will be advised if they did make a

1217
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:33,920
request of ice time. Right now we're
working on a mockup schedule for the

1218
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:39,280
third vice pad. So as soon as this is
all completed uh but I can now be

1219
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:42,159
contacting uh these users
>> for January

1220
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:45,199
» for January.
Let's see.

1221
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:51,760
» Thank you.
Moving to 19 beat funding for the auto

1222
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:56,239
in the country festival.
I was in touch. I was reached out to by

1223
01:52:54,320 --> 01:53:02,199
one of the organizers of the autumn in
the country festival. You said autumn in

1224
01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:02,199
the city festival.

1225
01:53:03,258 --> 01:53:10,880
[laughter]
>> It brings to mind certain songs. Um so

1226
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:19,119
uh the organizers have reached out. Um
they were seeking funding support from

1227
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:24,960
various funders this year and uh they uh
have come uh to say that they need

1228
01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:29,040
funding from um the township and my
understanding is that they did apply for

1229
01:53:27,119 --> 01:53:33,360
one of the grants. How however it hasn't
gone through yet. And so I believe uh

1230
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:37,199
you know this is a long-standing
festival. The organizers are well known

1231
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:41,440
in our community. They're small business
owners. they've proven [snorts]

1232
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:46,000
uh their organizing abilities and their
uh accountability and responsibility

1233
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:50,320
with funds of this nature before. And so
I believe it's in the spirit uh my my

1234
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:57,119
spirit and I hope the spirit of the
council um that we won't delay this uh

1235
01:53:53,520 --> 01:54:03,760
decision further as uh as the event is
happening on September

1236
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:09,119
19th and 20th weekend 18th to 20th. Um,
so to ensure that they see Township

1237
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:13,440
coming through as a partner in this
event that draws a lot of economic

1238
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:18,080
benefit, a lot of circulation and
tourism in our community. I'd like to

1239
01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:23,280
ask for council support to approve a
$2,000 grant uh for the honoring the

1240
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:27,920
country festival
uh saw

1241
01:54:25,599 --> 01:54:32,239
tonight u just to expediate that
process.

1242
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:36,880
» Thank you, councelor Degan. Has this
request come in already?

1243
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:42,000
» No. M. Thank you, Mr. Members of
Council. No. Um, there was a quite an

1244
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:47,920
important change in the budget in the
last week or so. So, we had requested

1245
01:54:44,639 --> 01:54:53,360
some extra information uh to the
organizer. Uh, we were tempting to try

1246
01:54:50,639 --> 01:54:58,480
to talk today. It didn't happen. So,
we'll try again tomorrow to see why the

1247
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:03,199
budget had changed quite drastically.
Um, so that's why it was supposed to be

1248
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:10,199
brought tonight, but because of that
important change, uh, we we needed some

1249
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,199
questions answered

1250
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:18,400
» approved in the past.
>> Last year, I believe uh there was a

1251
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:22,320
small grant cuz I think last year was
their first year in our park because

1252
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:27,360
this it's happening in the McDougall
park. Um, so last year I think we gave

1253
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:32,760
them a smaller amount of money. uh this
year it's it's it's a bigger event that

1254
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,760
grant

1255
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:40,159
» the council and comments on this this
request for council counc

1256
01:55:38,239 --> 01:55:46,560
» do we have another we do have another
council be for the uh on the 14th is

1257
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:51,320
that correct
>> yeah we still have coun

1258
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:59,199
» my understanding is that the original
application went in in January So, this

1259
01:55:56,639 --> 01:56:04,560
has been uh and I do understand that
there was a significant change in early

1260
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:08,159
August related to the budget. I'm trying
to put, you know, I don't really want to

1261
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:14,719
get into the grants policy too much on
this because I'm really trying to

1262
01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:19,280
prioritize the spirit of partnership and
collaboration with long-standing

1263
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:25,360
community volunteer organizers
over um what I see as a a small a minor

1264
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:29,280
detail in the way that the policy is
applied. And I don't want that to get in

1265
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:34,800
the way of of this really important
support. And you know, just to give an

1266
01:56:31,679 --> 01:56:38,960
example, if I was having an event and I
needed $2,000 for hot dogs, it would

1267
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:45,679
make a huge difference to know that I
had that $2,000 for hot dogs 2 weeks in

1268
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:52,000
advance versus 3 days in advance. Um, so
again, I asked for council support. Uh,

1269
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:56,960
these are trusted uh this is a trusted
like decades long organization providing

1270
01:56:54,639 --> 01:57:01,199
this this Keystone arts venue in our
community.

1271
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:05,520
» Councelor
That was that was going to be my point

1272
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:10,800
is you know while we do have a meeting
few days before it's difficult to to

1273
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:16,800
plan for something when you don't know
in advance enough in advance and um I

1274
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:22,080
think it I think there was a from my
understanding um is that there was

1275
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:27,199
additional money that fell through so
they had to re redo their entire thought

1276
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:31,760
process on the on the event and required
some councils

1277
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:37,119
uh the township's contribution helped
them move forward with the event. So,

1278
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:42,960
I'm comfortable making a decision as
long as we have enough money in the in

1279
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:47,280
the budget to support the $2,000 uh cash
donation.

1280
01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:52,480
» And that brings up a really important
point. The the budget that was changed

1281
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:54,880
was reduced significantly and not
increased. their budget or

1282
01:57:54,400 --> 01:58:02,560
» their budget
>> and the request to to township was

1283
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:08,320
reduced significantly not increased
>> and then last year doing an amount was

1284
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:11,920
okay we have a disagreement
>> um well I don't want to disagree with

1285
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:16,480
councel beacon but I just want to make
maybe precision when they started way

1286
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:20,639
back at the end of January when we
received the original uh request was

1287
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:26,960
$20,000
and then uh beginning of August They

1288
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:31,599
sent us a revised budget of $6,200.
So $6,200

1289
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:35,719
and then about a week ago they came back
with another one for $12,000.

1290
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:45,560
That that's why we were requesting some
answers uh as for why did the budget

1291
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,560
dump.

1292
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:54,960
So, I just wanted to mad um
laid it out accurately there. I just

1293
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:59,760
wanted to clarify because the comments
before seemed to indicate that there

1294
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:02,560
were a lot of delays on on side, but we
released our agendas on Wednesday and

1295
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:06,639
then on Wednesday morning we learned at
the budget level. So, that's kind of why

1296
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:12,719
it didn't make it to this uh to this
agenda. Um when it does jump from 6,000

1297
01:59:09,679 --> 01:59:17,840
to 13 or 12,000 uh we do have to ask
questions and kind of understand what's

1298
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:21,440
changed. Could I uh ask what was given
last year?

1299
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:26,239
» I would have to double check because I'm
not even sure if we did have a grant

1300
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:32,000
request. I don't think so because they
were able to um everything was done in

1301
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:38,400
the park. There was no cost. Uh this
year I think they're uh there's lots

1302
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:43,920
more um activities uh that they're doing
like they're having a bar um at the on

1303
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:50,599
the society uh
property and so there's expenses more

1304
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:50,599
expenses for them.

1305
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:59,599
Okay. Um,
councelor Lauren and councelor Nathan,

1306
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:08,239
» could we maybe say something to the
effect that there um is there did their

1307
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:15,360
ask go from 6200 township to 12,000 or
did there was there ask still $2,000?

1308
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:21,199
My understanding is the ask is 2,000.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, it went

1309
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:27,599
from 1,700 to 2,000.
That's for That's from

1310
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:32,639
» I'm confused.
>> I'm sorry.

1311
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:37,920
» From 17 to 2000 was their ask and their
budget went from

1312
02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:39,840
» 6200 to 12,000
their budget.

1313
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:46,119
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1314
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:46,119
» Yes. You go ahead. That's

1315
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:50,880
» Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, I just
wanted to add more context as well.

1316
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:54,000
reason the budget did go up I believe
and and I'm talking correctly if I'm

1317
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:58,560
wrong they they got some positive
responses from their grant applications

1318
02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:02,400
with I believe I don't know if it's both
the federal and the provincial

1319
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:06,400
government but it's at the at the tier
government level uh which which led to

1320
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:12,280
them increasing their budget and
increasing the request from as well from

1321
02:01:08,719 --> 02:01:12,280
1700 to

1322
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:21,920
» thank you Mr. Mayor members of council
so I do confirm what Mr. saying um so

1323
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:29,119
they did receive confirmation of the uh
believe municipal no federal grant they

1324
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:33,599
had received the Ontario one. So and
this is why we were holding on bringing

1325
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:38,480
this to council because we had agreed
with the gentleman uh because he in May

1326
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:43,920
we had a discussion with him and was not
too sure if he'd be getting those uh

1327
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:49,280
grants. He had made $15,000
worth of grant requests. Um and we were

1328
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:54,560
kind of worried because his budget was
20,000 at the time. So we were worried

1329
02:01:51,840 --> 02:02:01,199
that if he not he was not getting those
grants, how would he manage to have his

1330
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:06,080
event since 15,000 out of 20 was from
municip uh federal and provincial

1331
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:11,119
grants. Finally, he did receive uh
something from arts council that's

1332
02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:16,639
provincial. And then two weeks ago, he
received is federal uh but only 7,000.

1333
02:02:14,719 --> 02:02:24,040
So instead of just leaving the budget
like that, he increased all his expenses

1334
02:02:19,679 --> 02:02:24,040
to balance it off to $12,000.

1335
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:29,119
» So Lauren,
>> so would we have approved, 1700?

1336
02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:33,119
» I'm sorry.
>> Would we have approved the 1,700?

1337
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:38,480
» I'm not sure.
>> If your budget hadn't changed,

1338
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:41,119
» we would we were thinking of bringing a
recommendation for a,000

1339
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,760
» per thousand.
>> Yeah.

1340
02:02:41,599 --> 02:02:47,520
» Okay. And I'm going to say I'm going to
I'm going to suggest we go we we approve

1341
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:53,040
a $1,700
U amount for for the for their request.

1342
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:56,040
» Is that do we have that in the budget
still?

1343
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:12,480
» So right now in the in uh in add 2400
left. So, if we approve 17, the last 17

1344
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:18,199
left for the rest of the year, and we
have $950 in

1345
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:18,199
» the last

1346
02:03:20,275 --> 02:03:22,295
[clears throat]

1347
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:29,320
counc

1348
02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:36,800
on $2,000 and I especially

1349
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:44,080
appreciating that one of the reasons why
this is so complicated is because we

1350
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:48,480
have organizers who are committed to
filling out grant applications and

1351
02:03:45,679 --> 02:03:54,800
seeking funding and trying to put on an
even larger event than they otherwise

1352
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:59,840
would be able to. Um, so again, I I ask
council uh to support the $2,000

1353
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:06,400
donation to support this event and then
we decided tonight before um before the

1354
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:12,080
uh before the event is too close for
them to actually use those funds.

1355
02:04:08,639 --> 02:04:18,000
» Okay. So I have a
2,000 on the table

1356
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:22,560
rested council. It's not an option.
Rest of council.

1357
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:27,840
» Do we need a resolution or direction?
Mr. Mayor, if we pass a resolution,

1358
02:04:25,119 --> 02:04:32,239
which probably she needs, uh, we'll need
to suspend removals first. If not, the

1359
02:04:30,719 --> 02:04:38,719
resolution.
>> Is it okay? Pass. Council vegan. Is it

1360
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:43,119
okay if the direction of council is to
support it and to have it come back to

1361
02:04:40,719 --> 02:04:47,760
us at the next meeting for for
resolution, but knowing that council has

1362
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:53,840
agreed to the 2,000? the council does
agree to the 2,000. Does that is that

1363
02:04:50,239 --> 02:04:57,440
enough for the for the committee to to
move forward with that understanding

1364
02:04:55,440 --> 02:05:01,920
that the money is available but we have
to procedurally only bring it back at

1365
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:05,920
the next meeting and that'll give staff
time to bring that report back to us for

1366
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:12,480
us to and it can go into the consent
items at the in session at 6 or 10 and

1367
02:05:10,639 --> 02:05:16,599
that will there at least we give a
resolution but we give the direction

1368
02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:25,599
gives the group serve to be that data.
>> We gave direction to administration to

1369
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:32,760
approve
the $2,000 grant. That's

1370
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:32,760
» how consent is.

1371
02:05:36,639 --> 02:05:45,520
I appreciate council's um recommendation
or suggestion. I do think however it

1372
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:48,880
would probably be simpler and and there
would be a better guarantee for the for

1373
02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:53,599
the organization if it's a if it's kind
of adopted by by vote tonight and it

1374
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:58,000
would also eliminate the need to to
create additional

1375
02:05:55,679 --> 02:06:02,159
reports to council and so I I just feel
like on both sides it would be if if if

1376
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:07,920
it's council's decision to move forward
to 2017 or just to have

1377
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:12,239
» a motion to suspend procedure on the
side by councelor Degan second by

1378
02:06:10,639 --> 02:06:17,520
councelor Lauren. Call for the vote to
suspend those of procedure on this item.

1379
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:20,800
All in favor and pass.
Those of [clears throat] procedure are

1380
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:26,719
suspended on this and therefore we are
seeking a resolution to accept the

1381
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:33,280
$2,000 for this group. At this stage and
that is moved by councelor Degan, second

1382
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:39,840
by counselor Leone.
I'll call further votes on agreement

1383
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:45,960
2000 for the ad hoc grants at this
stage. All in favor

1384
02:06:42,719 --> 02:06:45,960
and pass.

1385
02:06:48,639 --> 02:06:56,800
Sure. All members of council. Yeah.
Yeah. We have information.

1386
02:06:53,599 --> 02:07:01,840
All members of council
for the video record. No, the audio

1387
02:07:00,239 --> 02:07:05,360
record.
All right.

1388
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:09,920
And now we move to item 20,
announcements, right?

1389
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:14,800
» Oh, you had one more. Yes, you did. Yes,
you did. Uh, counselor Beacon, go ahead.

1390
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:17,760
And that was for the truth and
reconciliation exceptions.

1391
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:26,320
» Oh, that's great.
>> Thanks. So, um, back before the summer

1392
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:33,199
holidays, council approved for the, uh,
survivors slide to be raised from

1393
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:38,079
the week of October 28,
uh, for truth and national week of truth

1394
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:43,920
and reconciliation.
>> Thank you. September. So on that form it

1395
02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:49,440
did not indicate that there would be any
sort of formal ceremony along with the

1396
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:54,000
flag raising. Since that time members of
the diversity, equity and inclusion

1397
02:07:51,280 --> 02:08:01,119
committee who have uh first nations in
mate background have expressed a wish to

1398
02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:07,040
gather a small group of people at a flag
um either uh as it's being raised or

1399
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:13,040
shortly thereafter to perform a brief
smudging ceremony. Um, so there would be

1400
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:17,920
a a main seed man and an inward woman
perhaps saying a few words, but mostly

1401
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:23,520
it would be as much a ceremony for folks
to proceed into the into the week of

1402
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:30,880
learning and um, learning and reflecting
and acting on the 94 calls to action in

1403
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:35,840
a good way. Uh, so the I wanted to bring
this up today for two reasons. first to

1404
02:08:33,599 --> 02:08:42,480
inform council um that I have been
advised by the clerk's office that it's

1405
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:47,599
okay to not return that this is a minor
change and that is not required to

1406
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:53,199
return with another application to
indicate a ceremony with the flag

1407
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:58,800
raising. This would require no staff
time uh no podium, no AV set up, no

1408
02:08:56,480 --> 02:09:04,000
chairs being put out. it would simply be
a small group standing at the flag for a

1409
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:09,280
brief amount of time. Um and then the
second part of that would be that uh as

1410
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:15,520
the the timing of this matching ceremony
is not yet determined. But uh the

1411
02:09:12,639 --> 02:09:20,880
organizers uh from the diversity
committee who want to do this ceremony

1412
02:09:17,599 --> 02:09:25,280
have expressed that uh depending on how
it suits people's schedules that

1413
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:30,000
township staff as well as members of the
council would be invited to attend and

1414
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:34,480
participate as well.
Well, for now that's forformational

1415
02:09:31,599 --> 02:09:41,040
purposes. But if uh if council wishes to
discuss, I can inform those folks and

1416
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:46,320
proceed according to council's wish in
terms of the procedural aspects.

1417
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:49,920
» Thank you. Questions, comments, members
of council on this item. I just want to

1418
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:53,960
make sure that we're following all
protocols around it

1419
02:09:56,719 --> 02:10:03,320
» and
uh and just saying to have

1420
02:10:03,599 --> 02:10:06,599
another

1421
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:13,560
direction

1422
02:10:13,599 --> 02:10:16,920
for me.

1423
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:25,599
Yes, Mr. Re. So, usually there's the
date of the flag. So, we have that

1424
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:31,679
September 28th. Uh what time would it
be? And uh usually someone brings the

1425
02:10:29,199 --> 02:10:37,360
flag because we need someone from the
public safety enforcement for the flag.

1426
02:10:34,719 --> 02:10:39,679
Yes. So, we do need that.
>> Yeah.

1427
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:44,880
» Yeah. The initial preference was early
in the morning on the so I can follow up

1428
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:49,159
with staff and make sure that we're in
touch with the organizers of the cere.

1429
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:13,840
» Okay, moving to item 20 announcements.
So just uh briefly say

1430
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:18,599
it's good to be back at around the table
of council following our summer break.

1431
02:11:26,719 --> 02:11:32,480
projects across the community. We also
know this road created a lot of

1432
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:36,000
disruption over the summer. Road
closures, detours, constructions are

1433
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:42,639
never easy for residents and local
businesses. Um, but I do want to thank u

1434
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:46,719
everyone for their patience. Uh, these
are important works that uh, you know,

1435
02:11:45,119 --> 02:11:51,840
and investments that are being made in
our community for the long-term

1436
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:56,159
viability of this particular community.
Uh we're also very active this summer

1437
02:11:54,079 --> 02:12:01,520
and members of council were very active
in different uh aspects whether it was

1438
02:11:59,119 --> 02:12:07,040
the meet me whether whether it was
different festivals, sporting activities

1439
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:13,199
uh community events. Uh big thanks to
all the staff that uh that managed all

1440
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:17,440
of those events. Uh just recently we had
our openups for the seniors which I

1441
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:22,639
think was a great success. So a big
thank you to the staff for uh for

1442
02:12:19,679 --> 02:12:26,880
organizing and to the uh to the
committee as well. I think that was a

1443
02:12:24,159 --> 02:12:32,320
great success and uh that kind of
engagement you know shows a lot of

1444
02:12:28,719 --> 02:12:37,280
promise on something that we as a as a
as a council and with staff you know put

1445
02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:42,560
in our strategic plan when we first
started several years ago. So really

1446
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:47,520
happy to see this move forward. Um we're
also entering uh the period of municipal

1447
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:50,560
elections. So over the coming week
residents will have the opportunity to

1448
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:55,440
hear in front of the candidates singing
and represent them on council. So I

1449
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:59,239
encourage residents to stay engaged, ask
questions and

1450
02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:13,599
will repeat this message in every
meeting on the importance of vote. Um,

1451
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:17,760
as a council, our responsibilities
continue as we demonstrated tonight, but

1452
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:23,199
there's a lot of still a lot of
important work left for us to focus on.

1453
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:29,040
Um, and with a focus of serving our
residents and governing responsibly.

1454
02:13:26,159 --> 02:13:32,960
Um, a few events coming up quickly. Uh,
from September 9th to the 11th, I'll be

1455
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:39,520
attending Ontario East Municipal
Conference in Ottawa. um where um his

1456
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:43,520
colleagues from Eastern Ontario will be
meeting to discuss economic development,

1457
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:48,040
infrastructures, infrastructure and
other priorities affecting our

1458
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:48,040
communities

1459
02:13:50,239 --> 02:13:56,480
for the region. There's a golf
tournament there and then

1460
02:13:54,560 --> 02:14:01,199
not finishing that golf tournament but
moving to the Amber Redf Fest which is

1461
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:05,440
the second year that they will be doing
it on the

1462
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:12,079
um
yes they will be blogging

1463
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:16,800
but two great opportunities to support
local organizations. Uh so again it's a

1464
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:20,159
pleasure to be back pleasure to be
sitting on the same table with all of

1465
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:29,560
you as well and having good healthy
debates um for our community

1466
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:29,560
did uh we have a something to add

1467
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:37,520
a few announcements. Okay, you'll
indulge me.

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02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:44,639
Um, I just wanted to make the point that
in tonight's agenda, there was um the

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02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:49,040
minutes of the accessibility and seniors
advisory committee meeting. And in

1470
02:14:47,199 --> 02:14:53,119
there, you may have noted if you read
them, that we acknowledge the passing of

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02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:58,639
an accessibility advocate in the
township and recognize the individual's

1472
02:14:56,000 --> 02:15:06,239
contributions. I just want to put a name
to that description. The person we were

1473
02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:11,840
talking about was Brian Young. And Brian
was a not a member of our accessibility

1474
02:15:09,119 --> 02:15:17,760
advisory committee, but always close by
and sending in emails with advice. And

1475
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:26,400
uh he passed away
sadly uh from a a debilitating muscular

1476
02:15:21,679 --> 02:15:31,199
disease. He was a I didn't know he was a
emergency room surgeon in Cornwall for

1477
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:37,199
most of his career until this disease
got a hold of him and uh sort of

1478
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:42,400
degenerative muscular disease. So he was
in a wheelchair. So he was a huge asset

1479
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:48,639
to our committee and I just wanted to
give a shout out to Brian Young and his

1480
02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:55,840
family. Brian uh did a lot of work in
helping to inform us on policy and of

1481
02:15:52,000 --> 02:16:01,040
course we all miss him. Uh item two is
uh maybe along the same lines as I want

1482
02:15:58,239 --> 02:16:05,599
to thank you Mr. Mayor for coming out to
our accessibility advisory committee

1483
02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:10,800
meeting. our last meeting, you had
wanted to come and recognize uh the

1484
02:16:08,719 --> 02:16:17,040
committee members with a personalized
letter for each of them and a medallion

1485
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:23,280
and caught all of them offguard. Uh it
was a real treat to have the mayor with

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02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:28,800
us all at the table and I must tell you
that after you left um you know they

1487
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:33,679
spoke very highly of you for the next 15
minutes or so. Um but it was a great

1488
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:39,679
initiative. I want to thank you very
much for taking that initiative to, you

1489
02:16:36,960 --> 02:16:43,679
know, coming out in person and and
shaking hands and giving them those

1490
02:16:41,439 --> 02:16:49,280
letters. I can tell you it meant a lot
to them. It certainly meant a lot to me.

1491
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:55,760
And last but not least, I want to take
the opportunity tonight to congratulate

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02:16:52,319 --> 02:17:03,120
our mayor for being acclaimed to his
position. I think it's a wonderful uh

1493
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:08,479
result. Um, I couldn't be happier. I
think you've done a great job leading uh

1494
02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:14,240
council these last two and a half years
or so. So, I just want to take a moment

1495
02:17:11,359 --> 02:17:19,599
to congratulate you. Uh, fact that no
one decided to run against you, I think

1496
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:25,359
speaks highly to uh, you know, your your
leadership and and your example in the

1497
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:31,040
community. So, congratulations to you.
Thanks. Thank you, counselor. said

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definitely bittersweet
very actively

1499
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:39,599
taking on the responsibility of having
four years. Thank you so much. I

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02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:44,319
appreciate kind words. Any other uh
casual?

1501
02:17:41,439 --> 02:17:51,599
» I just want to expand on your mention of
the uh uh [clears throat] seniors open

1502
02:17:46,719 --> 02:17:56,639
house. Um it was a great success and um
I'm it was really noisy. My ears were

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02:17:53,920 --> 02:18:01,760
ringing after after the event when I
left and I was near the door so I wasn't

1504
02:17:58,719 --> 02:18:09,280
in the middle of all of the stuff. But
uh I'd like to thank the committee

1505
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:17,599
members uh Ken Elaang Betta who were uh
uh helped out and make this so so great.

1506
02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:21,840
Um, and the staff, Sebastian, Addex, and
all of the other staff members who were

1507
02:18:19,519 --> 02:18:27,200
there to to make it and the ones that
manned all those little uh exhibition

1508
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:33,200
because I gathered that was also a
success. Got a lot of people signed up

1509
02:18:29,519 --> 02:18:37,519
for uh various uh notices or whatever.
Finally, the volunteers

1510
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:41,920
um I don't think it really would have
went went very well if we didn't have

1511
02:18:39,519 --> 02:18:46,639
the volunteers and they worked well.
They worked hard and um some of them

1512
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:51,120
were there to get their uh their hours.
Well, they earned their hours while they

1513
02:18:48,479 --> 02:18:55,200
were there. Okay. So, thank for those of
you who know all the volunteers because

1514
02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:59,439
I don't know them all. Please thank them
because appreciate.

1515
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:05,760
» Excellent. And that just you know
between that meet me I think uh it's

1516
02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:10,559
great to see those staff kiosks where
you know they're providing access to

1517
02:19:07,359 --> 02:19:14,880
residents by and whether it was the
library as well or the different

1518
02:19:12,559 --> 02:19:18,719
departments you can tell there was
really good engagement from the

1519
02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:23,599
community and and uh you know this is
becoming a something now that that I

1520
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:28,559
think it's being is definitely really
appreciated by the community so much for

1521
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:32,000
the initiatives to making sure that we
continue going down that path that

1522
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:36,000
loving engagement that are that we're
seeing with with these kind of tools

1523
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:39,000
that were
kudos.

1524
02:19:39,599 --> 02:19:46,639
Next time the council meets, there will
be the Terry Fox light flying outside of

1525
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:52,240
the town hall. And I wanted to thank
community members uh especially Don Aels

1526
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:56,720
who needs the organizing the Terry Fox
walk and run and ride here in in our

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02:19:55,120 --> 02:20:00,319
township which will take place this year
on September 20th. Um, but

1528
02:19:59,161 --> 02:20:08,720
[clears throat] I also wanted to take
the opportunity to recognize um just how

1529
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:13,359
supported Donna felt while uh organizing
this flag raising as well as other u

1530
02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:18,600
logistics related to the run and she
specifically was thinking Jose did feel

1531
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:28,560
she she kind of wasn't sure exactly on
the name and I took it I guess um but I

1532
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:32,880
just want to um acknowledge personally
uh that she that Jose was acknowledged

1533
02:20:31,359 --> 02:20:37,840
by that group and that they were over
the moon about the support that they've

1534
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:42,640
received from township staff and uh hope
everyone's able to uh appreciate that

1535
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:48,080
flag flying for the first time I believe
here at town hall on September 14th.

1536
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:54,080
And I would just add to that that there
was some challenging challenges with all

1537
02:20:51,359 --> 02:20:58,560
the remodeling of the bike trail and the
uh and the parking in terms of flying

1538
02:20:56,560 --> 02:21:04,160
their banner putting up their banner at
that area and township was supported and

1539
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:11,280
the banner will be flying will be placed
in front of the town hall for the

1540
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:16,720
duration. So that should become correct.
>> Oh yeah that's correct.

1541
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:24,240
So, um, it definitely demonstrates the
pride in this in this work for Boston.

1542
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:27,240
So, glad to see it. And I believe Cindy
still

1543
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:34,640
» I believe so, but she was always on my
side.

1544
02:21:32,399 --> 02:21:39,600
» Yeah, I'm happy to name Connie Johnson
involved, Danielle,

1545
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:43,280
others because they come from both ends
of the trail. So, there's lots of

1546
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:47,200
volunteers coming in. So that makes a
wonderful team.

1547
02:21:44,399 --> 02:21:53,840
» Awesome. Thank you very much. Any other
announcements? No. All right. So section

1548
02:21:50,080 --> 02:22:01,920
21 um from strategic discussion. We have
none. And uh item 22 uh close session.

1549
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:08,399
So pursuant to section 239 23 and 3.1 of
the municipal act 2001. It's 2001

1550
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:14,960
chapter 25. Motion to move into close
session at the hour of 9:41

1551
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:21,120
PM to address matters pertaining to
section 239 in the municipal act 2001

1552
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:26,319
2001 chapter 25 to consider matters
relating to one

1553
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:31,680
land purchase intersection Route 300 St.
Toma report CS2026-9

1554
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:35,680
S2C
the proposed or vending acquisition or

1555
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:42,080
disposition of land by the municipality
or local board and S2K a position plan

1556
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:48,160
procedure criteria instruction to be
applied to any negotiation carried on or

1557
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:52,800
behalf be carried on or behalf of the
municipality or local board.

1558
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:59,280
two to update on current litigation.
Russell Lagoon report CS2026-20

1559
02:22:56,240 --> 02:23:03,280
S2E litigation or potential litigation
including matters before administrative

1560
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:08,319
drug renewals affecting the municipality
or local board and S2F advice that is

1561
02:23:06,399 --> 02:23:13,520
subject to solicitor client privilege
including communication necessary for

1562
02:23:10,319 --> 02:23:18,880
that purpose. Three, update on the
development charges reduction program.

1563
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:24,240
Verbal report S2H information explicitly
supplied in confidence to the

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02:23:20,319 --> 02:23:30,000
municipality or local board by Canada or
uh a province or a territory or crown

1565
02:23:26,479 --> 02:23:34,720
agency of any of them. And four, close
session minutes of the regular council

1566
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:39,840
meeting. Sorry. Close session minutes of
the regular council meeting held on June

1567
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:50,000
22nd, 2026 and special council meeting
held on June 16th, 2026.

1568
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:55,600
Um, and yeah, this pardon
July 16th, and this is moved by Council

1569
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:59,439
Lawren, seconded by Councelor Armstrong,
call for the vote to go into close

1570
02:23:57,040 --> 02:24:06,080
session. All in favor? All members of
council are favor. We'll move at close.

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02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:09,720
We'll take a 1000 or five minutes.
>> Yeah.

1572
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:09,720
» Yeah.