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To the flag of the United States of
America to the republic for it stands

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one nation under God indivisible
and justice for all.

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Michael or Sean on Zoom. If one of you
could unmute and just confirm you can

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hear us, that'd be awesome.
How you will not do this if you can't

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hear me?

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» Yeah, I can hear you.
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We're in good shape. If you guys can
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John was a little quiet, but we can sort
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chams in as well. All right, guys. Um,
I'm going to start with the meeting

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minutes from last month
to take care of these and helping Kim uh

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get started on this month.
>> Make a motion to accept the minutes as

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written.
>> I'll second that. All

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» in favor? Hi
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for half of the meeting.
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» How does that work exactly?
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» Just say half of I
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» All right. Um before we open the floor
to public comment uh just a quick

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introduction. Our new village clerk
who's here. Kim. Everybody. Everybody.

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Um, yeah. And we'll start with a public
comment. Uh, just to review, everyone,

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please say your name, uh, street address
so that the notes

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» get taken properly and then uh, we'll go
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» Starting off with the red dot girl in
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» I'm in the background.
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» Okay.
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» Everything. And we are uh we are working
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» That's okay.
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help you here.
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» That's true.
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me to. I can do that.
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that's where the sound is going.
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» Yeah. And if you honestly if you can't
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can just say, "Hey, what?" And that's
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I don't have a gavl or anything, so
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» Thanks, Chris.
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» Anybody else? Sir,
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to say thank you for the progress DPW's
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Ambrose. I don't think we're there yet,
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» Is it flowing better?
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» had a fair amount of rain in the past
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» And second thing is just scheduling the
leaf pickup for the fall if we could

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either have two or push the one out a
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village trees hadn't even dropped their
leaves before the pickup was. So on the

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end and we get a lot of them at the end
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just a just a request. Sh.

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» Thanks. Anybody else in the room?
Anybody on Zoom? Mr. Miller

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once gone twice. All right, we'll close
public comment and we'll come around to

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it again at the end.
Next up, we have the treasur's report.

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on the payroll motion to appoint

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the salary and appointment date then
just a motion on the adjustment of

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» um and your start date was remind me the
second or the third okay great I will

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make a motion to appoint Kim Cring as
the new village clerk at 66,000

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starting September 2nd.
>> I'll second that.

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» All in favor?
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motion on the budget adjustment.
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» Well, so we're not Oh, well, it will be
because it's individuated. So, the clerk

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can cler
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» Um, yes.
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did, we'll just change
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payroll sheet.
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» All right. All in favor.
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» Anybody have any questions on the bills?
>> I'll make a motion to pay the bills.

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» I'll second. All
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» I.
>> Anything else for us, Belinda?

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» Going well with the admin stuff?
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» All right. Is fine. So, we are still on
track to go live on the 1 of December.

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Great. Thanks.
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month. for September this week. Yep.
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cop job one.
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hopefully we we're going to go live and
we're going to get training and be at

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um obviously for you know the whole
program

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about the second 30th of November.
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» Yeah, I'm diving into that already. So
last one.

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Any other questions for Belinda guys?
Thank you.

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All right, we'll move on to department
reports and start with uh for today's

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performance, Lynn is being played by
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only other thing I didn't put in there
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trailer that has really paid for it
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Changed out multiple curb stops within
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» Friday, Friday, actually it was Thursday
night. Mark Warner called for it. They

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had multiple water breaks. Uh so they
took that and our truck for the night.

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Came in Friday morning. They had one
more break. We went out and helped them.

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Friday afternoon,
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but then minutes after that one, a third
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has saved man hours of shovel.
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» And the village of Brownville had one
Saturday board and asking if we would

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bring it over there, which we did.
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» Um, do you are you tracking their the
drainage over there?

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» Yeah. So, we we got onto that. We
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is a good thing. Now we're just trying
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it.
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» they can put a catch basin at the end
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Keep that there catch basin on and at
the higher level take it right to the

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lake. That's was last thing we were
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» Great.
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only thing I had to report on the DTPW
I'm just going to piggyback on him

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because they had a lift station go down
last week and they've had um they've

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been having troubles with it since it
went down. So they needed to have some

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emergency money authorized which I gave
them a verbal to go ahead and do that

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because we can't have a lift station
down. Um they had already gotten three

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prices. We went with the cheapest one
but it's $10,785.

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» I gave the bills. Yeah.
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yet. She just had a copy of it on the
top for me to explain what was going on

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with it. Um, but he dropped it off to
Belinda, so we're all set there. But he

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does have two other prices.
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works.
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feel like two is enough. So, um, they
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had a list of things that they were
sending. So, the parts are on order.

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» One:00.
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» Um, so there's two pumps in each one.
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right now.
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» Yeah.
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morning knowing I was going to talk to
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» and I know we've talked before about are
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the lift stations?
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Rome is a standardization.
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extra one on in stock or are they too
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know what the lead time is on these, but
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said it's going be two weeks to get the
parts covered. But have the part here in

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two weeks and I asked when as soon as it
hits their floor, they come right on. He

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agrees with that.
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» but I think what he's asking is in the
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that we don't have to wait two weeks
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» Is there one unit that would work for
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carrying five different skewers?
I find it.

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» Okay. So, that's not going to work.
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» And they're they're sized so that one
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So, that one by itself, that's why
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overloading because of that, too. So,
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to spend the same kind of money to
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load right now.
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» So, it won't hold suction.
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Thank you.
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the second one?
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» Call or myself
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» Back truck's not going to like its new
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Oh my truck.
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» All righty.
>> Thank you, sir.

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Officer Gleason, you're up, sir.
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report to the deputy clerk this morning.
Um, sorry for the late notice there. We

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were busy with the marathon all weekend.
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Cash, the Brew York, and the Marathon. I
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unless you've heard anything.
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» Okay.
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police and the sheriff's office trying
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control. As you've seen on the internet,
it's like a countywide or probably a

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statewide issue.
the when you do try and stop them,

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most of them just take off. There's a
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the ones that aren't being problematic.
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some of them at the boat launch. They're
respectful and then those aren't the

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ones. You'll see those ones go out of
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traffic rules. Um the state police had
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dodge and then a third one joined in and
passed the trooper and

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obviously didn't comply with anything.
You can't get plates or identifying

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markers off the bike. So basically
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Isn't it a new rule that you guys don't
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» Um well it's up to the officer's
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risk factors go into it, but
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State, so if something does happen to
the suspects, then, you know, it's going

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to be bad for everyone involved,
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being we're doing the safe. That's all.
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» Yeah. And just to piggyback on that, um
I don't know if you guys saw Watertown

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just paid a million17,000
for a death settlement. They put a speed

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bump at Thompson Park. Uh the signage
warning people about it was not the

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correct amount ahead of it. So it was
there was signage at the speed bump, but

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it was too close for person on eBike. Uh
they hit it hard and they died. Um and

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so you know, everyone's like, "Oh, we
should put speed bumps." Like

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» I think you would need one on every
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that'd be a huge pain in the tail.
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because there's a more than just the
annoying reasons for speed bumps. Um you

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know it's a there are legal liabilities
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those would be very dangerous to do
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Thank you, John.
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» Good. Great.
>> Thanks, sir. Anything for fire? Oops.

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» David.
>> Yeah, you have my report also. Um,

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a couple things. The good news is that
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this is the LWRP1 grant. Call it. was
about 20,000. So that was good. It's

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been
um the bad news is we did hear on the

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CFA grant it was declined. We tried to
package it as one project and they said

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it's separate parks. We tried puts and
then connected by a trail. They weren't

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buying that. So I as far as I know they
haven't announced the

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swings or any other grants yet so far.
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» they denied it completely.
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application.
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» Thank you.
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» I mean it's pretty competitive too. is
not to say that if we had done

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» how's it coming
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work on I think there's ways we can
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but we got to pick one or the other

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» that's all any questions for Dave
>> I see you have um notes on the zoning

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can you update what's going on with
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donate.
>> Oh Jeff, on that date actually we're

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meeting we've been uh meeting the next
meeting is I think I put Thursday. The

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next meeting is next Wednesday. Next
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» Okay.
>> And um done a lot of research. Well, I

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don't know if Sarah wants to report on
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» Either way, go ahead.
>> Um gotten data from the county um on

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housing on Airbnbs.
>> Okay. and we got done some research on

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just the number of housing units and uh
now at this point we're starting to work

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on actual provisions that
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» and the temporary outdoor structures too

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any questions for Dave

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Kathy you're

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Senator Rose
I did think was worth mentioning um our

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numbers were down in August
because they were down significantly and

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just look back through our numbers from
previous years. Um

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they went down about 200 which seems
like a lot given that our numbers

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generally are only around a thousand or
anything. Um, as best we can figure,

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this is due to Canadians and
international people not coming nearly

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as much this year as they had in past
years. Um, but also maybe due to gas

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prices being high because our Jefferson
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numbers are up while other few other
states in the country are down. Um, but

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so as best we can tell, that's that's
what it is. But we'll talk to Corey and

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the TI council to see if this is sort of
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And then I did also, Kelly had asked
earlier about um the sign um quotes. I

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do have a couple of quotes. Um however,
they're kind of ballpark quotes because

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we're looking at very different things.
We're not turning apples to apples. Um

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to do a simple sign, we'd be looking
somewhere around 5,000. That would be

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wooden post and a metal sign would
probably last about seven years. Um, if

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we want to upgrade that to um an HDU
sign, which has a look of wood but lasts

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a lot longer with engravings, that's
going to raise the price by 10 to

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$15,000.
>> Raise it to 10 to 15 or raise it high.

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» And then if we want to do the stone
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we're looking at even more. And that
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Um, so the prices vary drastically
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looking at. But I would also maybe like
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» Yeah.
>> What will fit?

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» Do you know
>> what the the rig you guys did with the

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is I think a six buys
you put up and then the fabric. Do you

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guys do that yourselves?

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$1,000 in

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» couple hours of work and

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» the the uprightes it's a it's a they
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think 6x6es or 4x4s.
>> All right. And then the the vinyl is

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stretched so that it's looks almost like
it's a permanent sign. It was was it

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$200 I think for the sign.
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the temporary one,
>> right? But I'm like, if it looks nice

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and we can replace it every year, brand
new,

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» like the looks of that permanent, not
permanently. I mean, obviously, it's

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working in a pinch.
>> Sure. And that's But I feel like we are

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better than vinyl. Sorry.
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» and I don't think it'll last the winter
with the snow and the wind and all of

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that.
>> Yeah.

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» If it's if it's a $20,000 versus $200,
that's a hundred years of replacements,

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you know.
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» is that is that per location, Kathy? So,
three locations.

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» Yeah, right. Only I'm only pricing it
out based on we need one right now. I

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didn't price out like Okay. Because we
haven't even finalized the materials

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yet. I haven't asked okay, could we get
a discount if we're doing multiple signs

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or anything because I'm just trying to
nail down what what materials to weave

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them off first.
>> Did you end up getting a

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» Yeah.
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» did you get a hold of the Inkwell guy? I
got a hold of the Inkwell guy. I still

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have not heard back from your guy. Um I
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» Well, he was the one that I I thought
that was the

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» Inkwell. That's like KMS or K.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because he was the

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one that did the vinyl and his whole
thing was I'm happy to rush this for you

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guys and not charge extra, but I want to
be considered for the bid. So, hopefully

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he'll be a competitive bid.
>> I feel like if we've reached out to him

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a couple of times, we gave him that
option then. So,

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» well then we Well, we we discovered
something for him. uh his front desk

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person was just going, "We don't do that
for all sorts of jobs."

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» Okay.
>> Oh, that's good for business.

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» His problem is uh coming from inside the
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» but yeah, if I can get in anyway and
just talk to him about what he thinks

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good
recommendation. But yeah, right now

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» is the sign itself, not even counting
like what's holding it up yet, but the

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sign itself is it going to be it's going
to be wooden? It could be wooden or

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metal, but they're not nearly as
expensive. I think most of this is

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coming from construction.
>> So, right now, if we had them go ahead

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and start making the sign part and we
just figure out or does that or can we

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not do that part until we figure out do
we want a wooden structure? Do we want

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stone?
>> Let's order the sign because I'm

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wondering,

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» yeah,
>> are we doing a simple metal sign that

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will only last about seven years? Are we
doing the HDU sign which is a material

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that looks like wood that can be
engraved so it looks really nice last

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up.
>> What is the historical societ like what

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do you I mean long term
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» which would fit your requirements
because eventually we'll probably want

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to do all of them.
>> Yeah, we did a historic and it was small

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the front of the chapel um wanted to
match this small sign that was in front

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of historical signing. So we went well
we got quotes too but he bought graphics

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and that's that HDU
>> but you cannot tell the difference. I

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mean it's painted you cannot tell the
difference.

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» That's what I was wondering. I'm not
sure if we want metal because will it

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rust and all of that? So that's why I
was wondering if I just want to make

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sure that whatever we do that it's
matching what you guys are doing so it's

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consistent through the
>> Okay.

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» HDU is what's recommended. However, it's
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» Oddly enough I think
At least two of our three signs are in

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the town of Hfield. So planning board is
well talk to the other one.

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» I mean that's not I'm just saying it
would fine.

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» But it's nice aesthetically.
>> Okay.

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» Do you have a price on the HDU one?
>> H one was the one that was

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in it. It would be around 20 20,000.
>> So again I think this is for

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constructing the entire thing. We should
separately get quotes for just

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» separately just get a price for the
sign.

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just the middle bit with the
information.

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» Yeah. Because I'm wondering if we can
get them started on doing that part

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while we debate the actual
frame of what that's going to hold that

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up after, if that makes sense.
>> I think I think these guys are pricing

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construction they don't normally do at a
premium.

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» That's what I'm wondering. So, if you
could just price out the sign

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» and then I don't know if we can find a
contractor that can build. You know what

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I'm saying? That's not straight through
them. seen um for a John Kent's new

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building. Yes. I don't know who's doing
that work, but

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» Overton.
>> Is it Brian?

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» Okay.
>> Brian.

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» Well, Overton's doing I don't know.
>> House by the barracks.

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» Yes. I don't know who owns that. Every
time I walk by it, I'm like, there's not

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a
It's It's gorgeous, but if there's not a

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They didn't get a planning board.
There's not an orange sticker in the

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window that tells me that they came to
NAS for. So I was like, what are they

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doing? It took me I walk by it every
single day. So I was like, what's

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happening it?
>> Yeah, I was trying to think of the name.

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» I think that's Overton.
>> Overtons is doing that one. But it looks

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really nice. So that's why I'm like,
could we get a quote from them because I

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like what they're doing around the
fence. If we kind of mirror that

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and had it, but if we did the sign
separately, but hired a contractor to do

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that part of it, maybe we would save
money doing it that way. I'm thinking

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their price is so much because that's
probably not something that they

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typically do.
>> So pricing on this if we're not doing

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the stone veneer. Actually, in either
case, there's a metal substructure no

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matter what because um so Inkwell
actually came out and took a look. Plus,

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they're local so they know like we get a
lot of wind there. So they were

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recommending that we need a steel frame
to sort of keep this thing intact as

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much as possible,
>> even if a car hits it again.

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» Yes. Nothing stop a car, right? You
know, did we have been an insurance

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claim in
>> Could our insurance have covered that? I

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mean, it was
>> well, the woman's insurance.

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» Well, that's what I'm wondering. That
was an accident. Could we not have

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submitted it through her insurance? I
mean, she should be I hate to say it,

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but she should be paying for the
replacement of it

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» and then we could pay the difference.
Have we not looked into that?

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» Do we know?
>> You got a police report on that?

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» Oh,
I don't know why we didn't look to do

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that to begin with. That definitely
should have been her insurance covering

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at least
>> something.

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» Yes,
>> part of it and then we could have

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finished the rest of it.
>> Try and get a report. See,

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» that's what I would do. I can ask John.
I don't know if he's still on.

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» Yeah, I can check into that. I can try
and figure out which agency handled it

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and then get a case number and go from
there.

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» That would be great, John. You could do
that and if we need to submit a claim to

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at least get coverage to replace what
was already there and then we could put

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that with at least it wouldn't cost
quite as much money.

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» I don't know.
>> Yeah.

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» Cool.
>> Thank you.

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» How's the porch?
>> Um I'm still chasing John trying to get

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him back to come and fish. I mean it's
in great shape now. We did have a

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problem with bees. Um
>> they're everywhere.

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» Yes. because he had pulled off bits of
the um board that were rotting. I think

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that that's how they were able to get
in. So, we had all pests come treat it

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once. That seems to have resolved the
problem. And so, hoping that we can get

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back fast enough to finish this off.

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» Sounds good. Any other questions for
Kathy, guys?

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» Yep.
>> Planning board. I don't think Sharon is

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here or on. Um, we've got a couple here.

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Any questions about any of this stuff,
guys, or notes we want to take back to

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Janet?

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On to
all right. Uh, not too much ready side.

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All the projects are closed out.
did review some of your emails, Alex,

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that you forwarded along. One of them is
for FEMA, which it requires the village

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to have some information
like EIN number or something like that.

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So, it's not something we can fill out.
I mean, we'd be happy once you got in

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there, the village got in there. I can
take the I need anything.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Just as often when I when they

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send those, one of you guys is already
handling it. So, I just wanted to check

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before I I'll take Okay. Yeah. If you
need specific information about the

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projects, by all means, just kind of
getting in there. It's something

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um another another one of the emails was
about the ready funding. Um you'd have

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to check with Jim, but as far as I know,
all ready funding submitted. Okay.

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reimbursement. There was 30,000 a change
that we kind of exhausted all avenues to

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to
>> Oh, this is at the

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» station.
I think a lot of those have been

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submitted probably over a year or so.
>> Okay.

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» Um
that's all that I

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» Yeah, I got the notes there. I don't
really have any more updates on what's

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on that
date sheet unless there's any questions

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on anything.

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Good. Thanks, guys.

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» All right. You got a long report for us,
Kim?

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» Nothing.
>> Perfect.

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» I just circle back real quick. I didn't
get a chance when I was looking at this.

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Um Janet's on the planning board. Dana
has a note um about she suggested last

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month regular site inspections by the
village engineer and the DPW

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is that in coordination with the
developer and she just wants to make is

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that something our DPW already had like
that's not part of

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» so I talked to Lyn he's regularly
checking out what they're doing

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» she's asking them
>> this is for harbor haven because yeah

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basically where they're at is
>> the

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the lawn in the middle is going to end
up being like Peanut Park, which is

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actually a retention pond, but it's
almost never a pond,

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» right?
>> But in the event of like a three-day

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long rainstorm, that fills up and slowly
drains.

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» The one out there though was really
deep. That one's not as deep.

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» Yeah. So, they're back filling it,
grading it, seeding it with grass, and

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then the storm drains go under the road
so that if if it fills with storm water,

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it trickles out to the storm drain
slowly.

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» Okay. So that's
when I talked to Lynn, he said they're

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checking in regularly. Um Tori has been
in discussion with him as well. I don't

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think we need any more.
>> I just wanted to make sure that like I

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mean I don't want to I didn't know if it
was something that our village engineer

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looks at. That's extra cost. That's an
extra bill. Um

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» there was some built into an infra
infrastructure agreement on it.

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» Okay. I just wasn't sure what the setup
was. You know, the one thing if they're

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doing paving, the one thing I recommend
is that, you know, some of the subbase

420
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,520
was put out there 10 years ago and then
they're going to add some more gravel

421
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:31,039
underneath that. Just want to make sure
we have all that's shown on the plans

422
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,080
that's there. Okay.
>> Um I I'm still in conversation with

423
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,880
them, you know, if they want to do a
little test pit, but they're supposed to

424
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,000
be adding some of that and paving.
>> So, you've been in talk like you've

425
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,480
talked to them and you kind of know
what's going on out there to too.

426
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,159
» Yes.
>> Okay. That's all I need. I just need a

427
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,799
clarification that we're doing what
Janet's asking. Sorry, I didn't mean to

428
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:54,840
go back, but I missed it. I You moved a
little too fast. Sorry.

429
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,480
» All good.

430
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:08,159
» We're on community or I don't think
there's anyone from the chamber here.

431
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:11,520
However, um I will just ask on their
behalf.

432
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,760
» Um I wasn't sure if the stage that they
use for the concerts on the battlefield

433
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,520
was ours or the historical societies.
Dave let me know. it is in fact the

434
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:24,880
villages. Uh they would like to use it
for one of the bands

435
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:28,640
during October fests. Uh I think that's
fine. I mean the historical society uses

436
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:32,000
it for their community events. It's a
free concert open to the public. So it's

437
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,760
there's no, you know, they're not
charging anyone tickets or anything.

438
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:39,200
» You know where they want it?
>> In the road, are they?

439
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,760
» No, they were either going to do it
>> I think they're leaning towards the

440
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:45,840
anchor bar lot.
>> Oh. Um, but they've talked about putting

441
00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:49,440
it in the farm stand lot as well or
possibly your lot in front of the ice

442
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,679
cream store. They're still debating
where, but they wanted to know if they

443
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,880
had it to use first. So, um, I don't
know if we need a motion on it. Um, but,

444
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:58,799
you know,
>> they can use it. I just didn't want

445
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,279
didn't know.
>> I didn't want

446
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,480
» So, Main Street's going to be closed
then.

447
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,840
» Yeah. So, they won't like it would never
cross Main Street as a block. Like,

448
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:12,000
it'll still be accessible for emergency
services. Somebody stuck.

449
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,760
» No, it's just someone from the fire
department.

450
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:16,799
» Um,
>> yeah. So, they would never like if it is

451
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,000
on Main Street, it'll be like parallel
park. So, okay.

452
00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:24,159
» We can still get an ambulance through
>> festival.

453
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:28,760
» October fest.
>> Um, that's September 19th,

454
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,559
right? I'll let them know anything from
you guys.

455
00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:36,559
» I don't think we need to.
>> I don't think we need to. I think they

456
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:39,760
can just use it.
>> I just

457
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:44,000
for the historical society. The concerts
are over. We had a great year too

458
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:48,799
inside, but that's just whether but we
had I think record crowds and some of

459
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:54,880
the some of the concerts. So, I want to
thank the village for the contribution W

460
00:32:51,200 --> 00:33:00,399
for moving the stage and all
and all that. It was it's been a great

461
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,720
awesome.
>> All right. Any other community orgs I'm

462
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:11,440
missing? Uh the chamber did have a
meeting at Market on Maine this past

463
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:16,080
week and not too much new
reporting other than uh their marketing

464
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:20,159
person Michael Deni resigned and there's
somebody temporarily replacing him, but

465
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:26,320
I think they're looking for somebody
more long-term to take take over in

466
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:33,039
conjunction with Kathy. Is that right?
We're talking with Steve Gleason with

467
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:38,000
the New York Homes to join and Phil
Stern, but we have yet to actually

468
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,919
broach being super involved in marketing
with us. We're not we're not sure about

469
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,360
that yet.
>> So, we all know about it beforehand.

470
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,360
» Oh, hopefully talking to him soon.
>> Perfect.

471
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,080
» It's always funny to hear rumors about
yourself that

472
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
» Yeah.

473
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,120
» What's What's up with Michael? Is he
>> he's moving on to

474
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,240
» other things?
>> Other things, I guess. Yeah.

475
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:03,600
» His book's about to come out. He might
be focused on that.

476
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:08,639
» He's still he's staying local,
>> I think. So, yeah, he's running October

477
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:12,960
» Fest. Yeah.
>> All right, we'll move on from community

478
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:18,879
orgs unless anyone has any notes or
questions for any groups. On to board

479
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:24,800
reports and I will start. Um, first sort
of unrelated to my duties as mayor, but

480
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:28,320
um I I don't think I heard like officer
Gleason said, I didn't hear anything

481
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:35,599
from anybody in the barracks that was a
issue with people staying in RVs

482
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:41,599
uh for Brior. Um I still have yet to
sync up with Garrick from codes.

483
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:46,480
uh he sent me the form, but the event
permit, which they did get, so I assume

484
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:50,800
they they all got that sorted. It does
now say that anything with over a

485
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:56,720
thousand people or food, requires a
county permit. Now, I don't know if they

486
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:59,599
count the farm stand as food or when we
have an So, I have to have a

487
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:04,480
conversation with him to make sure I'm
understanding when we need to ask for

488
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,520
it. I think we probably once I get on
the same page as him on our event

489
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:14,880
questionnaire, we can just say like if
this qualifies for a county permit,

490
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:18,480
that's another tick box we need ticked
that you did in fact file for it. I

491
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:21,440
don't think we need it approved before
we approve the event, but it's something

492
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,440
that we're going to want to copy up just
like

493
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:26,400
» I think Brew York did end up having to
do that and they came out and did an

494
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,720
inspection. they didn't come out and
inspect

495
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,000
» but I I just mean in general I don't
know like

496
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,320
» which
a thousand people or any food

497
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,720
» which I think I want to make sure I
understand like is that hot food is that

498
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:46,280
food for sale is the you know all that
>> well I was just wondering the marathon

499
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:46,280
gave away milk

500
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:54,400
» um so I just I want to I'm going to get
that squared up with him so that I can

501
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:59,440
not be guessing when it matters and I'll
circle back to the concern that he told

502
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:05,839
me, the reason they put it together was
if it's an enclosed area, they need to

503
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,960
know that that all of our uh
departments, you know, the fire and the

504
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,960
police and and I was like, well, of
course, we do that.

505
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,400
» Yeah, but not I think not all
municipalities necessarily have the

506
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:17,200
permit. So, it's fine. I just want to
make sure we understand when we need to

507
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:21,119
because I don't want to make it over
complicated and if they have

508
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,599
requirements that we can then say, "Oh,
you don't need to worry about that for

509
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,359
the village because the county is now
doing it." we can maybe simplify our

510
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,359
process to it, but I at least want to
just get him on the phone so I can ask

511
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:36,560
pedantic questions about their form so I
can understand it.

512
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:40,400
» Um, the fishing stuff in new business,
uh, I was hoping Craig would be here,

513
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:45,119
but I should give a heads up. So, last
couple years, uh, the salmon fisherman,

514
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:50,880
I don't know. I guess you doesn't make
sense to me. You fling dyed eggs to

515
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:55,359
attract the fish to their own I
>> Either way, there's like orange dye.

516
00:36:53,119 --> 00:37:00,720
Yeah, orange dye being flung about and
people are getting it on their boat and

517
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:07,280
they're getting mad. Um, but technically
Navy Point has uh like a lease over the

518
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:10,160
water, but they can't even say like you
can't be between our docks because

519
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,000
that's still technically connected to
the lake. So, they don't feel like they

520
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:19,040
have any enforcement mechanism to tell
people to like shoe. Um, so they called

521
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,400
the DC. The DC said there's some rules
and mechanisms. I have a call with the

522
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,560
DC later this week. I tried to get it
done before this meeting, but they

523
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:33,040
weren't free. Um, so I'll circle back on
that, but we do have the like ability to

524
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:38,400
enforce our village laws in the harbor,
even though um we don't outside. There's

525
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:43,680
there's a weird rule about what counts
as in the village in the water. Um,

526
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,520
» but Kelly brought up we don't have a
great

527
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,440
» Well, it's it's they're on their own
boats. So, the problem is they're on

528
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,520
their own boats.
>> I thought you were talking about the

529
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,400
people because we have a lot of people
that come to fish off the docks. Yes.

530
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,599
» So I thought that's what you're
>> No, but it's when somebody's on their

531
00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:00,079
own boat and they're like drifting by
the marina and they're like splattering

532
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:05,119
dye on people's sailboats.
>> Well, technically the harbor is in So

533
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,760
like within the harbor we can and do
have rules.

534
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,280
» But we don't have a police boat. We
don't have a way to manip like how would

535
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:14,400
that work?
>> This is the conversation. I I will

536
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,040
hopefully have some better info.
>> All right. When you first brought I was

537
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,240
like oh the people on because we have
there's so many every weekend there's

538
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,200
tons of people down on the docks. I
thought that's what you were talking

539
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,680
about.
>> No, I don't know if you can throw the

540
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,000
guy that far. But
>> that's why I was like, I don't

541
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,200
understand why someone would stand on
the dock and throw it into someone's

542
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,880
boat anyways. So, I was confused.
>> Yeah, it's like drift drift fishing. I

543
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,160
don't know. Again, I'm not It's not my
forte, but I told Craig I would look

544
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,880
into it. He got in touch with the DC
guy. We're going to have a call. Okay.

545
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:43,760
» Hopefully, they will give me some
actionable advice.

546
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:49,520
» So, I get to buy a boat.
>> No. No, you do not.

547
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:53,440
» We had enough issues with the fireboat.
We're not doing a police boat. Nope.

548
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,280
» Actually, the fire I mean you cannon.
>> No, not happening.

549
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,760
» Clean off the Discourage.
>> No, not doing it.

550
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
» No fun.
>> So there's like

551
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,160
» it's a source.
>> There is a The harbor is a no wake zone.

552
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,440
» Correct.
>> Who enforces that?

553
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,119
» Good question.
>> Coast Guard, but there is no Coast

554
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Guard. There's iniggo.
>> Okay. So I think this fall under the

555
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:22,560
same
>> category is

556
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,320
» it's enforcement without any
>> correct

557
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:29,599
» yeah and people know it because they
know that the coast guard is in as we go

558
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,520
» I mean
>> and then the state police is up in the

559
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:39,119
river
>> so technically like usually what happens

560
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:44,240
is the sheriff boat takes care of like
the lake but much like the sacks fire

561
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:48,000
department. We had a little issue with
our boat this year.

562
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:53,040
» So, obviously, you've noticed it wasn't
around, but I've been told by the marina

563
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:59,599
that's going to be back up and running
for the spring. So, we should be good to

564
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:02,640
go as far as that goes.
>> Yeah. I mean, right now, my

565
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,320
understanding is the enforcement is
Craig knows who's a pain and he calls

566
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,640
them and bothers them if they are
difficult and that seems to work to some

567
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,800
extent. But yeah, if we had some kids
ripping into the harbor on a speedboat

568
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,400
and back out again, we wouldn't have a
lot of ability to do anything, right?

569
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,880
» You try and get the New York State reg
number and report it.

570
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:24,480
» I mean, I know people are asking for a
full-time police department, but I don't

571
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:28,480
think we can cover that with motorcycles
and

572
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,560
» watching fishermen in the
pay for itself.

573
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:33,599
» They don't know the implication of like,
yeah, okay, then your taxes go up by 50%

574
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,800
cover.
>> Yeah. So, I think um but anyway, I'll

575
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:44,240
hopefully that'll give me some ideas
that we can use. Okay.

576
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:49,040
» Um other thing I had was uh Dan Ferstein
lives out by you on Ontario.

577
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:56,960
» Um he brought up that he would love to
see the village do a villagewide ISP or

578
00:40:52,320 --> 00:41:01,839
Wi-Fi. Um I also think those are great
projects. Um, New York State's one of

579
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:06,960
the few states that did not uh
sort of bend to the conglomerate like

580
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:11,359
Comcast has got it banned in a lot of
states because they don't want the

581
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:14,720
competition. Um, I think it would be a
neat project. I just don't think anyone

582
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,599
here has the bandwidth to move it
forward. Um, but if we do hire a grant

583
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:24,480
writer, it could be something they look
out for because with some public

584
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:31,280
funding, it might make sense to do. Um,
I've done about a lot of research on

585
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:35,920
public Wi-Fi and municipal ISPs. Um, and
I'm kind of on the fence as to whether

586
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,880
it's something we could manage. Um, I
don't personally have the bandwidth to

587
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:42,400
to do it myself. So, unless we have
another person who wants to spearhead

588
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,200
it, I think it would have to be punted.
But, you ask me to bring it up.

589
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,319
» How does that work exactly? I'm not
familiar.

590
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:52,160
» So, a village wide Wi-Fi, we could just
we have fiber here, we have fiber in the

591
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,839
school. We could just put nodes and and
basically have a mesh network,

592
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,480
» okay?
>> Have free Wi-Fi for some level of

593
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,079
service. Village ISP would basically
mean a lot of communities have done

594
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:07,760
this. Vermont's got a lot of them where
they say basically Comcast is bad

595
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:13,920
service for bad prices. we can just buy
uh the back haul from West Halcom's

596
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:19,119
fiber or gangs fiber and actually run
our own fiber lines and we just say like

597
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:23,200
everyone in the village gets $10 a month
highsp speeded internet you can opt out

598
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,760
if you want but it's run by the it's
basically a public utility just like we

599
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,880
have water and sewer we can do internet
um there's places in New York that have

600
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:36,480
done this with power which I think we
are much too small for and I don't want

601
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:41,040
that headache but ISPs are not as
mission critical as something like

602
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:45,280
sewer, water or electric. So it smaller
communities have done it where you

603
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:49,359
basically just say there's, you know,
we're not in an area competitive enough

604
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,599
where we have multiple providers
competing to provide highspeed internet

605
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:59,359
well here. So we want to do it
ourselves. Um it would probably require

606
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:03,440
a full-time person, but it would pay for
itself. Um

607
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:08,079
» would it be like revenue producing?
Yeah, it could cover its costs, but u I

608
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:13,680
think covering its upstart cost would
require uh many years of payback andor

609
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:19,240
grant support. So um it's just something
that I think it's great, but we would

610
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,240
need like

611
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:24,400
if not a team of people, at least one
person who wanted to spearhead it, and I

612
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:31,839
think we're kind of lacking in that
right now. Um and then last up, the

613
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:38,079
doors. Um Casey Town is going to do like
a three four hour uh install one and

614
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:41,680
learn with RDVW.
Uh my maintenance guys are coming so we

615
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,240
can split the cost of it because we need
to learn how to do it for our buildings

616
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,880
as well.
>> Are we starting on this building?

617
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,960
» Wherever we want to do it. I would do
this back door because then we can use

618
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,599
the bathroom for the courts. Um, I think
that's the most sense to and and he'll

619
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,400
do this install while showing whoever
from your, you know, if it's all of you

620
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,079
guys or whatever.
>> Do you know what he's talking about?

621
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:06,560
» That's the access control doors. Casey's
he said like if he shows us how to do

622
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,599
one should be off to the races.
>> Do we need a different front door with

623
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,520
that being glass or with the metal
there? Can we just

624
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:18,079
» use the magnet or instead of the shirt
require a new door? I love the idea of

625
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,400
using fobs. I It tracks who's here when
they're here. I think it helps with

626
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:27,520
safety. It
>> was just very expensive to have them do

627
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:31,440
like stat or doy now. Um they quoted
just this building at like 12,000 plus

628
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:36,000
and that's when we already bought all
the equipment. Um, and that's I've been

629
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:39,359
trying to kind of solve around that. And
I think just like the signs, okay, it's

630
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:43,359
going to be something where we use our
own labor to some extent. But rather

631
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,960
than have you guys try and learn it from
scratch, I think it's worth paying him a

632
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,560
few hours of consulting time to like
teach,

633
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,119
» especially because we already bought the
equipment and it's just sitting there

634
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,160
doing nothing. So, we got to do
something.

635
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,119
» He said he'll be back in town next week.
I'll get with you guys to schedule like

636
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,240
a couple hours where you think you can
have people free.

637
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:04,800
» Perfect. Love that.
>> And that's all for me. Unless anyone has

638
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:07,800
any questions.
Great.

639
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:17,520
» Um, there was no rec committee meeting.
Uh, nothing to report from the school. I

640
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,960
already told you about the DPW. The only
thing I wanted to mention, and I know I

641
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:26,319
mentioned it briefly at the last
meeting, is that the fire department's

642
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:31,280
call volume has significantly increased.
Um

643
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:37,040
they had 87
fire calls all of last year. They're

644
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,040
already at 77 for this year and it's
August and they still have September,

645
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:47,359
October, November.
>> Total calls or calls they respond to.

646
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:52,800
» Total calls and that they respond to. Um
so just their call volume. Um they're at

647
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:58,000
316 already this year for all of them.
fire calls, EMS calls, MVAs, they had

648
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:01,839
three boat calls and two others. I don't
know what the others are, but just

649
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:07,359
putting it out there that our volunteers
are bearing again the burden of so many

650
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,640
high call volumes, lots of, you know,
again, those calls in the middle of the

651
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,920
night, whether it's the visitors center,
which we do. I need to talk to you again

652
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,920
about a Knox box. It keeps waking people
up. We need to do that. It would just be

653
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:21,599
easier if they had a Knox box there. I
say we invest 800 bucks, put a box

654
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,040
there.
same, right? I It just would be easier

655
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,000
so that they're not calling Lyn at two
in the morning. They're not calling her

656
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:31,920
at two in the morning. They've got a
universal key. The key is already in

657
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:36,720
there and it's just it's just safer for
everybody. Um so I definitely want to

658
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:42,000
move on that. Um but again, just the
call volume, lots and lots of calls. Um

659
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:46,400
» and sorry, this is so they can access
the building.

660
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:51,359
» The visitor center has gone off a lot
recently.

661
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:56,640
» This actually Also, these are alarms
going off, not people license.

662
00:46:55,119 --> 00:47:00,240
And if Doyle can't interpret it
properly, they just call the fire

663
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,280
department as the standard
>> and they could get in the into the

664
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920
building without having to bother
somebody and reset it if they could just

665
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,720
get in the building.
>> And if there's a real problem,

666
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:11,760
» and if there's a real problem, they're
not waiting at the door. We don't want

667
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,640
them kicking the door down. We would
rather them have a key to get into it.

668
00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:18,000
So,
>> um the I mean the fire departments use

669
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,800
Knox boxes. That's just the way to do
it. So, I would like, and I know we've

670
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,200
mentioned it before, I just think it
would be easier to put a Knox box at the

671
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,599
visitor center. It's like encased in it.
They have a universal key and then

672
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:33,680
inside that is another box where the key
to the visitor center would be in there.

673
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:36,880
It would just be easier
>> building or somewhere, you know,

674
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:39,200
» somewhere where they would know where to
go.

675
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,720
» They I believe they're the ones that
installs it. So, we would

676
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:44,240
» have a key until we do the digital.
Like, I'd be fine with them having a key

677
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,760
to
>> We talked about that, but there's 50

678
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:50,560
firemen and how do we know which one has
They don't stop here first.

679
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,720
» Absolutely not. I mean, they may to get
a truck, but they're not going to be

680
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:58,560
rifling through a drawer for all keys to
truck, but okay. I mean, there's three

681
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:04,240
trucks. You just don't know which truck
it's going to be and is it labeled and

682
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,440
» um protocol is an ox. That's just their
protocol. So, I would hate to throw

683
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,480
something off and have a new fireman
here and not know that there's a key in

684
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,839
the drawer or in the trucker or
something. So, I really would like a a

685
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:20,160
Knox box, but that's all I had.
Any

686
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:24,480
questions for Kelly, guys?
Thank you, sir.

687
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:31,280
Um,
just um the public swimming work group

688
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:37,359
did not meet in August with everybody
going in 10 different directions, but um

689
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:44,000
I do have some additional information on
the um financial side of things.

690
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Um Dave mentioned earlier the New York
Swims grant program I think um there was

691
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:58,079
not around
um

692
00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:01,920
this uh this summer. So it's it's likely
there would be another round in um after

693
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:08,960
the first of the year maybe like
January, February.

694
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:15,920
Um if we wanted to
pursue um public swimming and a splash

695
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:24,880
pad as a um jointly as an overall
project then then that would fit the New

696
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:31,200
York swims criteria. If we wanted to um
approach them on on separate tracks,

697
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:39,040
then the splash pad is considered an
ancillary feature would not be eligible

698
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:43,680
for uh New York swims. Um
however there are

699
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:49,760
this this needs a deeper dive but there
are other um grant opportunities for

700
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:58,640
something like a splash a standalone
splash pad. Uh for example the village

701
00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:06,400
of Carthage um they used um an unplug
and play grant uh which is under the

702
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:13,119
municipal parks and wreck program NPR.
um they received a $900,000 grant for

703
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:20,079
their splash pad as a standalone item.
So um just something to consider as we

704
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:24,319
go forward. You know, if um we're we're
falling behind on one one of the

705
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:28,240
projects and it looks like it makes
sense to go forward on separate tracks,

706
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:35,599
then you know, we may have to get
creative with with funding options. But

707
00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:40,160
» um that's all I got. I uh I did speak
with Thomas at uh structure marine

708
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:46,160
briefly. Y
>> um he was having trouble visualizing

709
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:49,920
from me just talking at him. So I
promised him a map with some diagrams.

710
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:53,119
So I'll draw some stuff up and then make
sure like you get eyes on it so it looks

711
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:54,000
right and then we'll kick it over to
him.

712
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,319
» Okay.
>> And those that's the group that did the

713
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,960
docs.
>> Okay.

714
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:02,000
» Just to see like whether they think some
of these ideas are doable or they'll

715
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:05,839
know better.
>> Floating dock.

716
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,400
Yeah, wave attenuation, all that
different

717
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:12,880
» options that they'll they'll be able to
give us a little more direction and they

718
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:18,000
do that basically as part of their sales
cycle. So they don't charge for

719
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:25,040
» initial consult get it designed by them.
>> Is I I know I asked you this. Um is this

720
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:28,800
is this a local firm or they
>> a Canadian? Yeah. Okay.

721
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,359
» Right. They're
>> Yeah. I mean he answered his voicemail

722
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:34,359
starts in French that

723
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,240
» like a real
>> Okay. Have they done work in this area?

724
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:41,040
Are they
>> I mean they did our docs.

725
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,640
» Oh, they did. Well, I thought it was
Marcelus.

726
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,559
» Well, so structural marine.
>> Okay.

727
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,240
» You guys want I I think I understand it
right. They provide the docs and design

728
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:51,760
the system and then Marcellis does the
install.

729
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,880
» Okay.
>> But they're like the ones that say this

730
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,359
is what you need for this wave level at
this location

731
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:01,280
» and they just sub out the actual
install. Okay. I think they might do

732
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,240
installs up there, but I don't think
they're okay.

733
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,079
» Probably not coming here right now.
>> No.

734
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:15,359
Okay.
>> All right. Any questions for Greg, guys?

735
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:19,680
» Awesome. Sarah,
>> uh Dave covered most of uh what we

736
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:26,800
discussed for the zoning rewrite
committee that met right after or the

737
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:29,760
week after our last uh board meeting.
But if there are any other questions

738
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,800
about that, we're still kind of working
through a lot of details. So, more

739
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:40,319
details to come as we continue to meet.
Um, the other thing I had is just kind

740
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:46,400
of a
I was curious about why we don't have

741
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:48,640
one of us as a liaison for the school
board.

742
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,800
» I am on it.
>> You are on it? Oh, I didn't realize

743
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:54,319
that.
>> Just recently though, I was asked to

744
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:57,280
attend the meeting. So, I've only been
to two, three maybe.

745
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,599
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

746
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:04,559
» And I just attend the meetings and I
don't say much, but if they have

747
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,559
questions or if there's a way that we
can collaborate, then of course,

748
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:11,839
» similar to the library,
>> it's non it's just me to be there in

749
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,559
case.
>> Yeah.

750
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,680
» Good to know.
>> Thank you.

751
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,839
Um,
>> so do you guys have like are you leaning

752
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,839
do you want to discuss a little bit
about the short-term rental or temper

753
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,079
like where you guys are at the moment or
do you want to wait until you're more

754
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,559
locked down?
>> I think we need to be a little bit more

755
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:41,040
locked down. We still have some uh
research to do regarding

756
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:46,559
things like municipality liability if we
are issuing permits or licenses to

757
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:52,400
short-term rental owners and operators.
Um we've got a good grasp on our numbers

758
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:56,640
now as far as how many there are in the
village. We're uh I think we were around

759
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:02,160
2%
uh of housing

760
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,680
» one. Yeah, just just under 2%. Um, so
we've we

761
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:10,319
we're getting a good handle on it, but
there's a little bit more to kind of

762
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:14,000
dive into and then the logistical aspect
of

763
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:17,520
who will oversee it, who will be
reviewing applications and and issuing

764
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:20,880
them. And uh,
>> you guys talk with the county yet? I'm

765
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,520
I'm curious like what amount of
information they're willing to share

766
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,119
with municipalities because they're
collecting that tax,

767
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:31,440
» right? there and they're like,
>> "Okay, because I like I have one where

768
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,280
I've had a long-term tenant in the
apartment above the liquor store for two

769
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:38,880
years, but I leave the Airbnb up." So
that sometimes people reach out and they

770
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:42,559
say, "Hey, what about next year?" And
then I just point them at the hotel. Um,

771
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:45,520
but the county was like, "No, if you
have that listing up, you need to file,

772
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:49,760
even if you have no revenue, you need to
file zero." And they were pretty adamant

773
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,559
about it, so I I signed up. And it's not
a hard process,

774
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:57,839
» but I was hoping that they'd be willing
to like share numbers and and maybe even

775
00:54:56,079 --> 00:55:03,119
like the revenue, you know, if we're
saying you have to Well, the more

776
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,440
information they'll share with the the
village, the better, I think.

777
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,240
» Yeah. We we've got
>> we can use that lean on them for

778
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:14,800
» them. Sure. Yeah.
So there's there's definitely more work

779
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,359
to be done in order to hammer out all
the details, see what would be the best

780
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,440
avenue for our small village to take,
but we're getting there.

781
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,400
» Cool.
>> Yeah.

782
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,720
» Did you speak with the business owner
for the temporary structure?

783
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,800
» Yes.
>> And where do we sit with that?

784
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:35,599
» I am waiting to hear back. I conveyed
the information. Okay. Uh it was kind of

785
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:40,160
situation where Janet still needed to
discuss what we had discussed in the

786
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:45,520
committee with the planning board.
>> Okay.

787
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:46,880
» See if they were um okay with the path
we were taking.

788
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,079
» Okay.
>> And then that was conveyed to the

789
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:57,040
business owner with no real response
yet. So she said she was going to get

790
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:59,680
back to me with a formal kind of
response.

791
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:04,160
» Right. So, we I we don't know if our
delay is going to prevent or help them

792
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:07,280
from opening or staying open this year.
I just want to

793
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:12,000
» Yeah, we we had come up with an idea, a
mechanism to allow them to stay open

794
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,920
temporarily just for this one more year,
but

795
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,799
» we're not sure if they're accepting
that. Okay. I was just curious if we had

796
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:20,319
an answer yet.
>> I um

797
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,000
just to be clear, right, the planning
board

798
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:30,240
is advisory in this capacity because
we're we're writing a new law. this

799
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:34,160
board will pass that law. Uh so we we
want their input on what they want but

800
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:38,480
effectively
it's input not the decision and like the

801
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:43,119
decision to pass the law is with this
board

802
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:46,319
» at the you know given the advice from
your committee and then the planning

803
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:49,920
board's job is to enforce the law that
we write. Obviously we want their input

804
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:52,799
but it's not the case that like the
planning board should be writing this

805
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,960
law directly. No. And and I don't think
that's the approach that's been taken,

806
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,640
but after five years of them having the
back and forth at least to get their

807
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:05,319
input, their thoughts on on the
direction that we had been going.

808
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:15,440
» Sarah, what's the um lead time that the
business needs? Um I mean, we're we're

809
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:21,839
in September
and typically that goes up like

810
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:25,040
November. It usually goes up in October.
>> It's about a month. So, we're going to

811
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:28,400
buy a new one. The old one's dead.
>> They've already reached out. They what?

812
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,119
They messaged us at the beginning of
August and we still don't have an

813
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:33,280
answer. So, I don't know what
>> we do have an answer.

814
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,000
» Okay. I mean, we do for the temporary
one yet.

815
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:40,799
» We got a pretty good answer in the
middle of August. That being said, I

816
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:47,920
don't know
if it's enough time. I don't know. Okay.

817
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:52,160
» I I just ordered one um for the the
weddings and it takes

818
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:56,160
I've managed to get lucky, I think, and
got it in like two and a half weeks.

819
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:01,280
About a month is the lead time I would
>> I would consider for safely saying when

820
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,599
I order it to when it arrives.
>> Um,

821
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:09,760
» well, the good news is the ball's in her
court now. She has, I think, all the

822
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:15,280
information she needs to move forward
and and stay open this year if she so

823
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:24,920
chooses and then a good solution for
>> moving forward. Yes. Gotcha. Okay.

824
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,920
Okay. Any other questions for Sarah?

825
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:34,559
All right. Hope bring us home.
>> Uh

826
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:38,559
um the um town of H I have the three
reports is the town of Houndsfield. I'm

827
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:44,240
a liazison. They weren't able to have
their meeting last

828
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:50,640
month because they didn't have a form.
Uh so that's null and bull. Uh, I'll be

829
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:56,640
going tomorrow night. Uh, the library, I
was uh there with them the other day and

830
00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:02,319
um they're still working on uh the ramp
um and getting that situated. Uh they're

831
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:11,119
getting ready for the October fundraiser
of the quilt show and um

832
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:19,520
and uh Octavia started a children's
library um book club of some sort. Um so

833
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:24,640
there's that. Um the big one is the um
housing authority. Um there's been a lot

834
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:29,599
that's been going on. There's a lot of
community awareness of it now. There's a

835
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:36,640
lot of fundraising that has been done. I
have a whole long report here. Um so far

836
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:45,040
we have $4,700 that we have accumulated
over since July 4th. uh $500 Stephanie

837
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:52,079
Elliott got from the uh bank,
$340 from the ballroom concert the other

838
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:56,240
day. Uh
Beth Arthur and the township of

839
00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:00,160
Poundfield has donated a vacuum cleaner
because the vacuum cleaner that they

840
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:04,799
have is locked in a closet and the
residents aren't allowed to use it

841
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:09,119
because of United Helpers, which is the
property management company, won't let

842
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:15,040
the residents use it because it
disappears. It gets somebody has sticky

843
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:21,280
fingers and and it gets stolen. So, she
with her their money from selling uh the

844
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:28,400
empty cans and soda bottles and whatever
bought a really nice uh vacuum cleaner

845
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:31,920
and gave it to Beth, right? How's that
going?

846
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:36,119
» Very well. Very well. I had to tighten a
few screws to handle.

847
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:47,040
» Good, good, good, good. Okay. Uh,
business cards for the upcoming events

848
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:54,000
was donated by Brenda and Tim Towner.
Uh, Judy Fentino uh made and contributed

849
01:00:51,599 --> 01:01:00,640
lanyards that we had made. the Chamber
of Commerce, Michael Denhei, is setting

850
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:07,839
up a website for the uh uh housing
authority and and and

851
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:13,920
giving uh PR time to Sack Harbor
Heights. Uh

852
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:18,559
raffle tickets. Beth Berdick is doing
that. Uh latest news is they're

853
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:22,640
continuing to look for a maintenance
man. That's the big big problem that we

854
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:28,079
have. We don't have a maintenance man.
Um, United Helpers, uh, which is a

855
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:32,640
property management company, will not
allow for volunteers to be on the

856
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,000
premises, such as your recommendation of
having a volunteer day.

857
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,240
» Did you message them or not?
>> What?

858
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:45,520
» You didn't message them, right? That's
on my docket. Message United Helpers. We

859
01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:49,760
talked about um
or Betsy, did you either message him

860
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,119
about the rider or did you want me to do
that?

861
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,240
» I did not.
>> Okay. So they they don't have an

862
01:01:54,799 --> 01:02:01,200
volunteer rider in their insurance
policy. They're like a $100 to add. I

863
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:04,000
think we can force them to add them.
>> Uh they're

864
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,640
» that's silly.
>> They're difficult. Yes. I also my my

865
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,799
answer was like, okay, well, if we do it
anyway, what are you going to do? Like

866
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:14,160
they're not going to you know what I
mean? They don't have any enforcement

867
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:16,000
mechanism to stop somebody from sweeping
the floor.

868
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:21,280
» Well, there's people that are already
volunteering on a individual basis. for

869
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:25,200
us to do a volunteer day. They were
like, "Absolutely not.

870
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,559
» Put face masks on and vigilante clean
up,

871
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:29,680
» right?" You know,
>> but so we're we're gonna just talk to

872
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,400
the insurance company and see if there's
just a a cheap writer to add that

873
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,720
covers.
>> It said that we could paint the walls.

874
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:41,359
The board members could paint the walls
as long as they didn't get up on a

875
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,760
ladder. And so then then we were like,
"Well, let's get some volunteer stuff

876
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:47,599
going on."
>> Stand the board. Whoever wants to

877
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,599
volunteer.

878
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,799
It doesn't make sense. They're
volunteers. You guys are not paid to be

879
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:56,720
board members. It makes zero sense
whatsoever.

880
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:59,440
» It doesn't make sense. And it's it's
>> Do you see Do you feel my frustration?

881
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,200
» Yeah.
>> No. Yeah.

882
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:07,359
» USDA will not allow a tent or a pavilion
of any kind for outdoor smoking. So,

883
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:12,240
that's on the kibos and the residents
aren't happy about that, but that's the

884
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:17,200
way it is. uh their United Helpers is
looking is continuing to look for

885
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:23,079
affordable carpeting to replace the
damaged carpeting from the flood back in

886
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,079
2019.

887
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:32,640
Large trash items were promised to be
removed and have still not been done. Um

888
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:41,280
is the hornets nest taken care of?
Probably not. Um there's it's just it's

889
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:45,359
Anyway, a group of us went for coffee
last week and talked to the women and

890
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:49,520
they feel as though they are being
acknowledged that they're in part of the

891
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:55,039
community and we're trying to extend
that since we have money that has to be

892
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:59,359
designated for the purposes of the
carpeting, the parking lot and the what

893
01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:03,440
else?
>> The siding.

894
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:09,039
» Siding. The siding. you know, you can't
just paint the outside. You got to take

895
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:13,920
down the rotten wall uh wood and so
that's a big expensive and the 4,700 is

896
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:21,200
there's no way that is that's going to
cover that. However, um the community

897
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:25,680
members are members of the community are
going to have coffee with the women and

898
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:32,240
trying to open the door of of a
relationship with them. um

899
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:37,039
providing a monthly birthday cake for
them so that they feel included. Um the

900
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:43,359
upcoming events for volunteer
opportunities and donations by

901
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:50,240
organizations is sac the sacktoberfest
is going to allow participation and then

902
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:56,000
contribute to the housing authority.
Halloweenville is going to give a

903
01:04:53,119 --> 01:05:02,079
portion of their donations to uh the
housing authority and uh Margaret Co

904
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:08,640
says the craft fair and and holiday
shopping will contribute money to that

905
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:13,599
also. So um there's some really good
things going on. I'm really proud of the

906
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:17,359
people that have volunteered.
Unfortunately, I'm seeing the same

907
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:22,559
volunteers all the time. That's that's
sort of the way it goes. Uh, if anybody

908
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:27,760
knows how to face paint, we need face
painters for the Halloween bill or to be

909
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:33,520
a witch for the cauldron. That's that
would be lovely. We we could have those

910
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:38,400
things uh and and all of that money will
will be in addition to um the

911
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:43,200
fundraising. So therefore, if we can
have volunteers go on the premises, we

912
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:50,680
could use we could get cleaning fluids
and and and spruce up the place and make

913
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,680
the women feel included.

914
01:05:52,319 --> 01:06:00,960
That's it. That's what I'm hoping for.
So, that's my reports. Any questions?

915
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:06,799
» Yes.
>> Um probably open a can of worms, but has

916
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:12,480
uh since it flooded, has it been
inspected to make sure there's not black

917
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:21,400
hole and rot and electrical problems?
>> I mean, I hate to see it as Bessie.

918
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:21,400
Anybody else expected to make sure

919
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:29,960
weren't damaged or anything?
>> Fine

920
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,960
protot.

921
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,680
» Yeah. And there's
>> Okay, that's good news.

922
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:42,799
» Need a maintenance person to be able to
do things and we cannot. They cannot get

923
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:49,200
anybody. I've been asking around. I
posted on Sakarago. Um, I've given it to

924
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:55,599
Beth Arthur who said she may have
somebody that would be interested. So,

925
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,000
» you know, I mean,
>> she's

926
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:02,720
» one of the things we talked about at
their meeting, guys, was um the rate

927
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:07,599
they're asking to pay is not going to
get, but they don't need necessarily 40

928
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:12,640
hours of work. They'd be better served
paying somebody talented, you know, for

929
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:19,599
20 or 25 hours at the same total weekly
amount. Um, and so Bets's given me some

930
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:24,000
contacts at United Helpers. And the two
things I need to

931
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:28,319
sort of find a way to politely but
firmly say we need them to do is one,

932
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:30,799
add the volunteer rider so that we could
just take care of some of this

933
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:38,000
lowhanging fruit with the people willing
to do it. And then secondly, um,

934
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:42,160
give us a little more autonomy on
managing the hiring process and say,

935
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:46,400
"Look, you have a budget of X dollars a
week. let us be flexible with the rates

936
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:52,319
you're paying so that we can find
someone local who might be more willing

937
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:55,920
to jump in and do this work.
>> Nobody has even applied to find out what

938
01:07:54,319 --> 01:08:00,160
the price how much is being
>> that's fine. I mean it's still a matter

939
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:05,119
of like if you put a people know right
people know what what United Helpers

940
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:09,520
pays and I think if we go and post $35
an hour for a talented retired handyman

941
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:14,480
to work $20 an or 20 hours a week we
might find some people. So right now the

942
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:21,440
gentleman is the maintenance guy over at
um Shalom has been coming over and he's

943
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:24,719
actually paid less over there than what
uh United Helpers has budgeted for over

944
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:30,279
here.
>> Yeah,

945
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:30,279
» it's it's a can of worms.

946
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:38,880
They would be a United Helpers employee
though, not an employee of the

947
01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:42,640
» letting us like help with the hiring
stipulations. But

948
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:47,520
» um
>> what what is their rate?

949
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:52,000
» 36 now.
>> Well, and

950
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:53,600
minimum wage is 1650 or something.
>> That's tough,

951
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:56,640
» right?
>> But you can make that at McDonald's,

952
01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:01,920
» correct?
that to them to tell anybody.

953
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:04,640
» I think United Helpers has a reputation
though and I don't think anybody wants

954
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:08,640
to work for them and that's who it's
with

955
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:14,080
» the 22 other places. They they oversee
22 places. They do not have the issue

956
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:16,719
that they have here with keeping the
maintenance.

957
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:21,359
So
>> it's the same rate it

958
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:24,359
» less. They're actually paying less over
$17.

959
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:31,839
If anybody knows anybody,
give us the number.

960
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,080
» But it's a full-time position, not a
parttime.

961
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:41,600
» 18.
>> At 18, if we got them for 30 hours

962
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:47,120
at $25 an hour,
>> but United Helpers ask you.

963
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,440
» Yeah. So, we'll we'll chat with them a
little bit and see if we can get some

964
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,719
» That's good.
>> some movement.

965
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:56,239
for people that wanted to do volunteer
work and then we were told we couldn't

966
01:09:54,159 --> 01:10:01,360
do it. We were ready to rock.
>> That's the the insurance writer. I think

967
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,520
I'm pretty confident I can make happen
because I don't have they have no reason

968
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,480
not.
>> I feel like they're going to find

969
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:10,000
another reason to say no though. It just
seems like that that's the no for right

970
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:12,080
now because that's an easy one.
>> I I don't disagree.

971
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,159
» And then I think they're just going to
find another reason.

972
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:19,199
» I agree.
>> But I hope it works. I hope that's the

973
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,159
solution. That would be great.
Well,

974
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:26,159
that's what it is.
>> All right. Any other questions for hope,

975
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:31,440
guys?
I didn't have uh any

976
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,000
have no serious Oh, you got some more.
>> Are you voting on this?

977
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:37,360
» I don't know what that is.
>> Will you send a letter out to to the

978
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,239
board?
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't make it

979
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:45,199
onto the agenda. That was supposed to go
under my report as well. Um are you guys

980
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:48,800
did you guys uh get a chance to look at
the We talked about it last month.

981
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,480
Everybody good with it?
>> Yeah.

982
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,880
» Okay.
>> Thanks.

983
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:57,920
» I need a motion. Motion.
>> Yeah, I need a motion to uh pass the

984
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,320
» Can you make the motion?
>> Okay. Sorry.

985
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,960
» I'll make give me the thanks. I say
right.

986
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:10,400
» That's why I was like, do you need that?
>> I will make a motion to accept the uh

987
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:13,120
Jefferson County uh updated exemptions
from the uh county planning and

988
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,520
community development.
>> I'll second that.

989
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:17,920
» All in favor? Hi.
>> Hi.

990
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,080
» Thank you.
>> Done. Yep.

991
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,199
» Yep.
>> Um that Yeah, that should have been

992
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:28,080
under old business. That's my bad. I did
not send it over to the office.

993
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:32,239
» Uh anybody else have any old or new
business?

994
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,239
All right, we'll go to one last public
comment.

995
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,480
Anybody on Zoom?

996
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:49,280
Anybody in the room?
All right,

997
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:54,719
» I'll make a motion to adjourn the
meeting. Second. All

998
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:58,640
» in favor? I work.
>> Thank you, bro. Good luck. We're done

999
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:58,640
early.

1000
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:17,880
Um
>> Alice, can I get you both sides for the

1001
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,679
electric vehicle grant?
>> Okay.

1002
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,840
» Finally got the paperwork. So you need
to sign

1003
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,920
so I can