1 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:59,440 Good evening everyone and welcome to the SO City Council meeting for Monday, July 2 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:03,360 20th at 6:30 p.m. Before we call the official meeting to order, we do have 3 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:08,080 two workshop items uh that we will be addressing. First, the first item is an 4 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,800 assessing overview. And with us, we have Assessor Shawn McCarthy. 5 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,760 And with him, Deputy Assessor Kate Karns. 6 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,080 It did. Thank goodness >> it works. 7 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,279 » All right. >> Hello everyone. 8 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:53,040 » Good evening. [clears throat] >> So, uh, my deputy assessor Kate Kern is 9 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:57,279 going to start us off here and then I'll take over in a little bit. So, Kate, 10 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:02,480 » sure. I just want to say good evening, city council, mayor, administrator 11 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:05,680 Pelleter. We're just here to give you an update on what's been happening in the 12 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,360 assessing department and the values citywide. Um, 13 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:16,720 so what were the results of the vision, measure, and list that we completed 14 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:21,440 about six months ago? Um, how do we update the values? Why did we update the 15 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:30,120 values? And what does that mean for the future? Those are the big topics. And 16 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,120 for the measure and list, we basic 17 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:40,560 up here. Um, for the measure and list, um, the purpose of that was to 18 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:44,880 go property to property and make sure that we had good data for each parcel. 19 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:49,120 Um, when people were home, they were able to talk to them. Um, when they were 20 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:53,839 allowed in, they were able to go in and verify data that way. They took new 21 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,440 photos of every property. when they weren't able to get in but felt like 22 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:04,640 they needed to, they would send follow-up letters and go back. Um, so 23 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:10,079 having done this 18month project gave us a good foundation to go ahead and um 24 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:16,560 have solid a solid data foundation to start analyzing the sales and the market 25 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:21,920 in SACO. Um, and that's what we've been doing. 26 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:26,480 » So a statistical update. Um there's a few pieces of information uh that I want 27 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:31,120 to go over before we get into the the actual process. Right? So a few terms. 28 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:35,360 Sales ratio. What is a sales ratio? It's a basically a measure of how close our 29 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:39,680 assessments are to market rate. Right? Usually expressed as a percentage. If 30 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:43,920 you have a $100,000 property that sells for 80,000 or that we have assessed at 31 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:48,000 $80,000, we would be at 80% of market value. Just simple math terms. Um so 32 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:56,240 it's a measure of accuracy. How accurate are we on our assessments? Um it uh we 33 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:59,760 use the average ratio across the city to uh determine the amount the state 34 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:03,680 reimbures us for exemptions. If we fall too low, the state gives us less money 35 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:08,880 and we have to factor homestead exemptions, veterans exemptions, a bunch 36 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:15,360 of things across the city. So the state the the law is 70% to 110% is the range 37 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:19,920 you can be in and still be within compliance of the rules the state sets 38 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:24,399 for us as assessors. If you drop below 91% that's when the factoring of 39 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,000 exemptions starts happening. There's also the quality rating. This is a 40 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:34,399 measure of how far from the average ratio any given sale is. So if the 41 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:39,920 average ratio is 100% and you have a sale that comes in at 110% the quality 42 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:43,600 rating for that sale is 10, right? And so you average that out across the whole 43 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:47,200 sample. That's your quality rating. It's a measure of how precise we are. Right? 44 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:51,279 Our average could be good, but we could have a huge cluster of sales at 150 and 45 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:55,120 a huge cluster at 50%. I wouldn't say we're doing a good job in that scenario, 46 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:59,120 right? So that's what quality rating is measuring. Um it's used to determine how 47 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:03,760 equitable assessments are. In the case where there's a big group at 150 and a 48 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:07,680 group at 50, we're not equitable, right? So that's what this is measuring. And 49 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:14,079 the state requires a quality rating of less than 20. That's the line for this. 50 00:13:10,639 --> 00:13:19,040 So a statistical update, how do we do it? Um, first we collect and analyze 51 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,440 sales. The assessment department gets every single sale that happens in the 52 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:28,639 city of SACO, assuming you record your sale at the registry of deeds. Um, and 53 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,720 now the a lot of these sales are no good. They're not what we call qualified 54 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:37,120 sales. If you pass down a piece of of land to your child, that's not a qualifi 55 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:40,720 qualified sale. If you give 500 square f feet to your butter so they can put a 56 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,560 shed on their property, that's not a qualified sale. We want arms length 57 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,000 transactions between two unrelated parties. It's exposed to the market. 58 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:51,440 Both parties are trying to get the best deal for themselves, right? That's what 59 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:58,000 we're looking for. Those are qualified sales. We had 399 of them in the area, 60 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:03,920 the uh time period we used to calculate this most recent valuation update. That 61 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:08,639 time period was July 1st of 24 to June 31st of 2025. Right? That's the time 62 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,720 frame the state uses to judge us when they audit us every year. So, it's this 63 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:16,240 the time frame we use. Um, you can push it out to 18 months if you want, but we 64 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:21,600 didn't need to do that. 399 is more than enough. Um, so you look at that, you get 65 00:14:19,839 --> 00:14:26,240 all of the sales data in, you prune out the bad ones. Now, we need to determine 66 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:31,040 what adjustments need to be made at all. Right? If we're at 100%, great. Job's 67 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:35,839 done. We don't need to do anything. Um, that was not the case when we started 68 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:39,199 looking at the data. So, we look at if we have a single family home sale, we're 69 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,000 going to look at that from a bunch of different angles. We're going to look at 70 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,519 what type of home is it. Is it a colonial? Is it a Cape Cod? Is it a 71 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:48,000 ranch? We're going to look at the square footage. We're going to look when was it 72 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,680 built? We're going to look the neighborhood in the city that it it 73 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:57,440 exists within. Right? And when you have 399 sales, you get a good sampling for a 74 00:14:55,519 --> 00:15:00,079 majority of the city. Not everywhere, but for a lot of it. And in some 75 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,440 neighborhoods, you'll have a lot of good data, some less so. Right? So we start 76 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:08,480 looking at it from all those different angles to try to find out where our weak 77 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:12,480 points are. So we have like a test database. It's all of our data from the 78 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:16,399 live database that I can go in and just start making changes and do crazy stuff 79 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:20,560 and it won't affect people's actual valuations that they pay their taxes on. 80 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,600 Right? So essentially we got those sales, we saw where we were at. I start 81 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:29,600 making changes. We change something, look and see what it does to the data. 82 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:34,079 analyze the results and then repeat until we get to a place we're happy 83 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:39,360 with. Right? You may have noticed at no part in this did I pull comps for a 84 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:44,079 property. At no part in this did I go in and drill down and start really 85 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:47,440 analyzing the minute details of what makes this property unique. That is not 86 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,759 what this is. That's not what the assessment department does. We do what's 87 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:55,920 called mass appraisal. And this is how mass appraisal is performed. It is 88 00:15:54,079 --> 00:16:00,160 statistical analysis. when you're at the level the size of the city of Sako, 89 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:05,279 you've got 400 sales in a year. We're not quibbling over a single sale 90 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,040 necessarily. Now, there are cases where we might we can get into that a little 91 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:14,079 bit later. Now, this the graph I'm sure you've seen on the screen is a measure 92 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:18,560 of all the ratios after I made the update of every single sale in our 93 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:22,720 sample. And you'll notice the red line is the average. And it might be hard to 94 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:27,600 see cuz it's a little small, but you'll notice at the left side of the graph, 95 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:32,320 which is the oldest sales, it's about 95ish, maybe a little higher. And then 96 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:38,160 as you go to the right and time goes on and we go to 2025, it slowly trends down 97 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:43,680 and it ends probably somewhere in the 85%ish range. That is the market 98 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:47,759 changing over the course of the sample. Um, I'm sure many people have a lot of 99 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:52,720 opinions about what the market in the city of Sako is doing. I can promise you 100 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:57,440 it is appreciating in general. Does that mean there are places where that may not 101 00:16:54,160 --> 00:17:04,720 may be less true? Absolutely. But in general, on average, we're appreciating 102 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:08,160 about 5 to 8% a year right now. I'm not going to try to pretend to understand 103 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,319 what might happen 6 months from now, but that's where we're at today. 104 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:16,640 So once we make those changes, I've analyzed the results. I feel comfortable 105 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:20,720 with what we've got. We push those d changes to the live database. We update 106 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:25,760 everyone's real values that they will pay taxes on. And that's what was on the 107 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:30,160 letter that everyone got, right? That was the the updated data that we pushed 108 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:36,720 to the live database. So we made the changes. We went from 109 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:42,880 about 77% when I started analyzing the data back 110 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:47,120 in February to about 91%. And the question a lot of people have 111 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:52,080 asked me and I'm sure some of you have heard as well is well Sean why'd you 112 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,200 bother to do anything at all? Right? You could have just left it. You weren't 113 00:17:53,440 --> 00:18:00,720 below the 70%. You could have just stayed there. And there's a few reasons. 114 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:06,480 First one, factoring to a lower ratio cost the city money directly, meaning it 115 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:11,520 raises taxes by get us getting less money from the state. If we were to 116 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:14,480 factor today, if we stayed at 77%, I calculated this using the tax rate 117 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:19,760 calculation sheet based on our current budget, we would lose about $277,000 118 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:24,400 in state reimbursement for exemptions. So, everyone's homestead's going down. 119 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:28,480 And we'd lose about $145,000 in revenue from personal property. Now, personal 120 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,760 property isn't a huge percentage of the budget, but $145,000 is not pocket 121 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,600 change, right? Because we have to factor personal property to be where whatever 122 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:43,280 real estate is at. So, if we're at 77%, they're coming down to 77% as well. So, 123 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:50,799 that's a direct loss in revenue. There's also a shift that occurs as your ratio 124 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:56,000 gets lower. There's sort of a floor that you can be at and have a home at all, 125 00:18:53,120 --> 00:19:00,240 right? And as we get lower and lower, as our percentages get lower, that we get 126 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:04,160 approach that floor and all the difference between a higherend property 127 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:10,240 and a lower-end property shrinks. And now that's fine in theory, but it has 128 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:13,760 very real tax bill implications. So I've I've got a little chart here. Uh I won't 129 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:19,840 bore you with the details, but you'll notice at the lower-end property, if we 130 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,799 go from 70% to 100% and we have, let's say, a budget increase, so the mill rate 131 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:27,200 doesn't absorb all of that. we go to $850, similar to the situation we find 132 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:33,440 ourselves in here today. Their tax bill is about $450, but the $700,000 property 133 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:40,400 goes from 70 to 100% and their tax bill goes increases by $1,000. Right? The the 134 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:45,919 less valuable property is shouldering less of the property tax burden because 135 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:51,840 there is a greater actual difference in the values between the 300,000 and the 136 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:59,039 700,000 in this example. Right? It's a very simple explanation but I hope you 137 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:05,679 understand that you see the theory. Um, so we've talked a lot of theoreticals. 138 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:09,120 What did we actually do? So we adjusted building values first. We based it on 139 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,880 industry standards. Marshall and Swift is what we use. That's cost price per 140 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,240 square foot for things. How much does it cost to get a shed? How much does it 141 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:20,799 cost to put a Whirlpool tub in your bathroom? Right? That's where so we 142 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:26,000 update the the the cost values based on Marshall and Swift and then land values 143 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:31,360 increase to conform with sale prices. So what do I mean by this? So if I know 144 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:36,240 that our cost data is good and I have two 1500 square foot ranches built to 145 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:40,799 the same quality, maybe even built by the same builder, but one is in one part 146 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:47,440 of the city and one is in another part of the city and one sold for $200,000 147 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:51,280 more. I don't think that the the uh difference there is in the building. 148 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:55,520 It's in the land. One of those places is more desirable to live for one reason or 149 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:01,280 another. And when we have sufficient sales in certain neighborhoods, when I 150 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:03,919 initially started doing this process, I changed the sale the cost data first 151 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:08,159 because that's the most straightforward. And then I started look analyzing the 152 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:13,919 data again and I noticed that some neighborhoods were maybe at 85% and some 153 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:19,360 maybe were at 65%. These neighborhood values haven't been changed in more than 154 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:22,720 a decade at this point ultimately and the city has changed. I'm sure anyone 155 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:26,559 who's been here over that last decade could tell you that the city looks very 156 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:32,799 different today than it did back in 2016. And so we updated those values so 157 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:37,200 that the ratio of those sales comes closer to that 91%. We're aiming for 158 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,159 par. It's not an exact science, but if we can get everyone pretty darn close to 159 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:46,159 91%, I feel like we've done a good job. 160 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:51,200 So, and this it's worth noting the 91% as I mentioned is the minimum increase 161 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:56,640 to get 100% value of all of the exemptions and everything else. So, the 162 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:02,159 reason being the state lets you claim to be within 10% of whatever your true 163 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:07,679 ratio is. So, if we're at 91, 10% of 91 is nine. We can claim 100, right? But 164 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:12,320 that does mean that if the market continues to appreciate, we quickly fall 165 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:16,480 below that minimum threshold. So there's a balancing act to be had here. Do we go 166 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:20,960 all the way to 100%, risk the market collapsing, risk things changing, and 167 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,559 then we have to make further unforeseen adjustments in the future or 168 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:30,320 do we do the minimum possible adjustment to give make it the least abrasive for 169 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:34,400 taxpayers but risk having to do updates again in 170 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:37,520 the future? I don't think any assessor would tell you that there's a right 171 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:44,240 answer to that question, but we chose to go to 91%. Um, it's worth noting we went 172 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:47,600 from 77 with a 14 quality rating to 91 with a five quality rating. So, we have 173 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:52,320 improved the quality of the data overall. 174 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,000 So, I threw a lot at you. What has happened so far? I'm sure you've all 175 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,679 heard quite a bit about the fact that values have changed, right? We sent out 176 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:04,080 letters to every taxpayer with their new valuations on them, right? uh they 177 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:10,000 didn't land all at once such as the whims of the USPS, but we sent them out 178 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,039 and we made available an online booking tool so that anyone could go on the 179 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:17,919 city's website and click on a thing and schedule some time with us. Um we've 180 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:21,600 taken 38 of those meetings and scheduled 124 more of them. Uh I have 181 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:26,480 unfortunately had to pull down the booking page purely because all of the 182 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:29,840 time slots in it were full and now people can still call. we'll talk with 183 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,960 you on the phone or we'll schedule a time to squeeze you in somewhere, right? 184 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,960 We'll make it work. We want want to meet with as many people as possible. But the 185 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,080 automated system had had fulfilled its purpose and I think honestly I'm pretty 186 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,159 I didn't think we'd get that many to be entirely honest with you. So, I'm pretty 187 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:48,799 pleased with that. Um, as of right now, since the the the letters hit, we've 188 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,919 taken 235 phone calls and an unknown number of walk-ins. I wish I'd tracked 189 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:55,559 it, but I have not. It was quite a few, I'm sure you can imagine. 190 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,280 So, what next? talked about it a little bit. We're going to keep looking at 191 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:04,480 sales, right? We keep getting them. I analyze them. I look at them on a 192 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,600 monthly basis. Our property appraiser comes in and shows me ones that are 193 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:13,039 especially out of line with our assessed value. U but come January, February of 194 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,000 this coming year, I'm going to be looking at this again, right? Where are 195 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:22,960 we? Because the state will be looking at it too. And uh we need to at least have 196 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:26,960 an idea of where we are. If necessary, the market continues to change. will 197 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:31,520 continue to make adjustments. That means, I want to be clear, both up and 198 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:35,440 down. If the market collapses underneath us, I don't think we're foreseeing a 199 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:40,480 2008 situation. But if it goes down, if we lose 5% over the next year, I'll 200 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,240 happily drop values 5%. Right? I want our data to be accurate first and 201 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:49,200 foremost. And if that means going down, then we'll happily go down. 202 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:55,200 This point, I know I threw a lot at you. Any questions? 203 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:59,120 » Thanks, Sean. Any questions? Councelor Huitt and Councelor Edwards, when can 204 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:01,600 people expect to see their tax bills in the mail? 205 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:07,360 » Sure. Um, the plan is to commit early August. The tax bill will hit early 206 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:10,360 September and then it is due uh October 14th. 207 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,880 » Yep. Go ahead, Council Huitt. Will there still be a discount for the historic 208 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:23,760 district? >> There is no discount for the historical 209 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:29,360 district that I'm aware of. Okay. 210 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:33,520 » Yeah. I will say they generally sell for less than equivalent properties 211 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:37,520 elsewhere because of the burden placed on them by being in the historical 212 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:42,559 district. But there's there's not a line item in our um assessment database for 213 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:47,120 historical district. At least not right now. 214 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:51,760 » Anything else? >> Councelor Edwards. 215 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:57,520 » Thank you, Mayor. Um hi. So, the several calls that I received, 216 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:04,880 they were um of course not happy with knowing that their houses were more, but 217 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:13,919 um the part of the concern was the time period and I was wondering if for their 218 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:17,679 sakes and and mine frankly um would do you see in the future having an 219 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:23,279 assessment maybe in five years versus another decade? 220 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:28,559 Um I would I think my preference would be that these be smaller and more 221 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:34,960 regular. Um the last big update was in 2023. Um we went up like 35% across the 222 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:38,880 city purely because we were trying to keep some something close to pace with 223 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,559 the COVID market. We've obviously slowed since then. U but we're still 224 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:49,120 appreciating it. I mean 5 to 8% a year is is quite a good clip. That's not 225 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:52,960 usual. Um, so yeah, at least until the market starts changing, if we start 226 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,960 seeing a tailing off, uh, we can maybe slow down updates then, but it would be 227 00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:01,679 my personal preference that we make small updates every year so it's not 228 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,080 20%. Here you go. Right. Right. >> Thank you, 229 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:09,360 » Council Warren. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, when you talk 230 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,880 about a five or 10% assessment per year, are you talking about pulsing that 231 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:16,799 number of properties? What What are we talking about with that number? So um 232 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:21,440 when we're when I'm talking about five to 10% I'm talking about appreciation of 233 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:24,320 the market the values are increasing by that amount. 234 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:28,559 » Okay. And do we just automatically bake that in as an incremental increase to 235 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:32,240 the assessment without going back out and actually physically reassessing 236 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,679 which is what we've done this cycle? >> Right. So this cycle we went we sent out 237 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,360 the vision data collectors to ensure our data was accurate. Um I I don't think 238 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,720 it's perfect by any means but it's certainly better than it was before. We 239 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:47,039 continue to look at any property that pulls a building permit. Any property if 240 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:49,919 a property sells and we notice that, oh, that was well above our assessed value. 241 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,679 Oh, look, they have a finished basement we didn't have. We'll update properties 242 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:58,480 that way as well. But we don't go like set a goal to go out and say see 10% of 243 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:02,399 the city every year. It's not specifically anyway. We do often just by 244 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,880 nature of doing our jobs, following building permits, all of that stuff. But 245 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:11,679 yeah, councelor Gail. 246 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:16,320 » Thank you, Mayor. Um, I guess thank you so much for you and your staff for being 247 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:20,480 so open and uh willing to meet with folks and talk talk with them. That's 248 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:26,000 super helpful and um I've heard from some folks that that was a a good 249 00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:32,240 conversation. So, thank you. >> Um I guess just could you go back and 250 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,720 explain to me the the quality rating? Could you go over that one more time? 251 00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:39,279 I'm not >> Absolutely. Let's go back in time real 252 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,919 fast. I caught I caught that piece of it. 253 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:46,799 » Sure. So, we determine our average sales ratio. Let's say it's 91% for the sake 254 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:52,240 of argument. And then we get a a sale in that sample sells for 100% of our 255 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,840 assessed value. It would have a quality rating of nine because it is 9% away 256 00:28:55,039 --> 00:29:03,440 from the average, right? And so the goal is that a majority or most of your sales 257 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:11,679 are close to the average. Right? So, if if we have um a property and it sells 258 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:17,360 for 200% of its assessed value, that's a quality rating of quick math in my head, 259 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:21,200 108. Obviously, something is wrong there, right? That I would look at that 260 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:26,799 and say clearly our data is incorrect. Like, I know where our our overall 261 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:30,480 valuation is at. if something is at 200% clearly that the data going into the 262 00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:35,360 system is wrong rather than like a fundamental problem with the way we 263 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:39,120 value a property. Um so on average so you uh you determine the quality rating 264 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:44,080 for every single individual sale. In our case it was 400 and then you average 265 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:48,480 that up and the average of your quality rating is your quality rating for your 266 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:53,120 assessments as a whole. So in our case after the updates it was 5.6 was what we 267 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,840 were at after we made all of the adjustments. was 14 in change. I don't 268 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:02,960 remember the decimal at before the adjustments. So, we we brought everyone 269 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:07,760 a little bit closer together. >> And is there um 270 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,520 I guess do you know or do you have a sense from from other communities and 271 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:17,039 other assessors kind of where that ranks in southern Maine? I mean, that seems 272 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:22,320 like a pretty accurate >> Yeah, to be honest, I don't know. Um, I 273 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,240 know generally assessors don't like to be above 10. That's kind of a line like, 274 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:29,679 okay, you need to start making some adjustments because something's clearly 275 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,799 wrong. Um, 20, like I mentioned, is the statutory line. That's where main 276 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,279 revenue comes in and says, okay, you you need to do something different because 277 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:37,840 clearly whatever you're doing is is wrong. 278 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:41,520 » Um, but generally they like to stay under 10. So, I feel like if we're under 279 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,480 10, if we could get below five, I'd love to see it. But, you know, small 280 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,000 victories. >> Gotcha. Yeah. And I guess just to to 281 00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:53,200 echo what councelor Edwards was mentioning just in terms of the length 282 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:59,760 in between um just in some conversations it feels like the shorter uh or the more 283 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:04,000 frequent but smaller increases would be appreciated. Yeah. 284 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,960 » This was a big one. So >> thank you. 285 00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:14,320 » Thank you. Anyone else? Council Johnston one point to your to your question. 286 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Since prior to 2021, we were appreciating like this and then 287 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:26,799 COVID hit and it went like this. And so we haven't seen these kind of increases 288 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,559 in the history of the city until 21. And that's when the market started taking 289 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:36,559 off. And that's when every year consistently more and more and more. So 290 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:40,640 it's we've really kept up the best we possibly could with the data. I mean, 291 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:48,159 you you can't change assessments on a dime. you need all of the data to look 292 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:54,880 at. So the 2023 increase 24 25 here we are again. Um and like I said you just 293 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:58,960 prior to 21 it was pretty steady and then it just went like this. So I think 294 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,360 it's impossible to really tell right now. 295 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:08,080 » Council question. >> Yes. Go ahead then. Councelor Johnston. 296 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,039 » Okay. Um I guess just a a hypothetical. So in terms of adding additional housing 297 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:18,080 stock >> Mhm. 298 00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:24,960 » Um with the increase in in sales prices um theoretically then it's that's 299 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:30,159 that's going to only increase the the values, right? Unless there was some 300 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:36,399 sort of market correction and and the the new housing stock was going below 301 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320 um below the market. 302 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,440 » Yeah. >> Today does that make 303 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:44,960 » Yeah. I understand what your question is I think and let me know if I answer it 304 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:50,080 and it's totally off in left field but like we generally don't try to draw 305 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,840 conclusions from for example Omari Court um that's a relatively new subdivision 306 00:32:52,320 --> 00:33:00,240 that got put in that all the sales sold at once. So we have good data on Amari 307 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:03,919 court. I tried my I tried to keep Amari court in Amari court, right? It does 308 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:08,080 tell us something, right? Because they're valued the same way any other 309 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,320 property in the city is valued in theory, right? We put in we draw the 310 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,600 sketch, we put all the same attributes in. So if Amari Court is selling for 311 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:23,120 well above our assessed value, that does speak to a problem. But if I make some 312 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:26,880 updates and Amari Court is still substantially lower than everything 313 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:30,799 else, that speaks to us needing to make adjustments on Amari Court itself 314 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:34,399 specifically rather than on the city generally. Yeah, 315 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:39,440 » Council Johnston, >> thank you. Um, thank you for the 316 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:44,240 presentation. My question though is um for the administrator 317 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:49,120 I I think most of the questions are all good have been answered but I think the 318 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:54,080 outstanding question for most residents remains the mill rate and could you give 319 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,760 us an idea of when that would be set and with valuations increasing is it likely 320 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,240 that we will see a reduction in mill rate 321 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:06,000 » it is and I've spoken to both Sean and Kate um like they said we're going to uh 322 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,000 commit the 1 of August I don't want to put a number out there now, but I will 323 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:13,359 say yes, it will drop based on what was presented during the budget. I want them 324 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:16,960 to be able to finish their work with the meetings with each indiv individual 325 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,960 resident because I know part of that is reviewing the data with the residents as 326 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:26,320 they're coming in to make sure that their numbers are all accurate. Um, but 327 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:30,320 my plan would be hopefully by I'm going to be optimistic and say the August 3rd 328 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,159 meeting, I might be able to report that out in my administrator's report. 329 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,639 » Thank you. >> A slight addendum. Our our plan 330 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:42,480 currently is to commit August 3rd. Okay. So, it might not be done in time for 331 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:48,359 that, but hopefully I'll do my best to go fast. 332 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,359 » Thank you. Anyone else? 333 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,040 » Okay, not seeing anyone. Thank you very much. 334 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:07,800 Okay, next up we have Director Moore with a workshop on the Smith Do Stockman 335 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,800 connector update. 336 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:23,760 Good evening. So, I brought uh one of my co-workers with me, uh Adam Bliss, the 337 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:28,800 city engineer. So, he's going to get into some of the technical aspects, but 338 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:34,240 I'm just going to start off by giving an update of where we're at uh to date. 339 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:40,000 So, kind of going to go through the background, where where the project 340 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:44,320 started, where we're at. Um we'll we'll look at the design, uh talk about some 341 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:49,680 options that we have, and then obviously answer any questions that you you may 342 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:54,240 have. So, first off, the background. So, it's been a long-standing goal of the 343 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,839 city to uh have a back connection to those parcels on the east side of Route 344 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:01,760 One, similar to what we have across the street on the west side over by 345 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:07,599 Hannerford and behind McDonald's and down to Hutchkins. So, in 2021 when the 346 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:12,400 redevelopment of the old Pizza Hut was done in the Chipotle, Jersey Mike. So 347 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:17,680 that's kind of where, you know, the city got involved, the planning got involved, 348 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:23,760 and we actually have title to a 50- foot strip of land that is on the back side 349 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:30,720 of that parcel. And then fast forward to May of 22, council appropriated uh 350 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:36,079 $75,000 for public works to begin survey and design of what that connector road 351 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:41,920 could look like. And then um we did present this at the at the May 15, 2025 352 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:48,240 uh traffic safety committee meeting. So it has had some some public um outreach 353 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:56,640 at this point. So this is from the 2019 Route One 354 00:36:51,599 --> 00:37:01,119 corridor study. And this is where um page like south is where like that 355 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:05,520 connector road that we're going to be talking about opposite you know page 356 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,400 north that's over by the Hannerford that's the back connection behind the uh 357 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,400 McDonald's down to the Hutchinson Street. 358 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:23,040 So to date we have 90% uh plans. Those plans will allow us to be able to go 359 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:27,680 forward for for permitting if if construction is uh pushed forward. And 360 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:31,680 then once the permitting is done, we would uh be able to update those 361 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,079 drawings for final drawings that could be released for construction. 362 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,800 Some of the remaining items that we have, as I said, permitting, uh 363 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:45,119 easements, there's still a few uh easements or land acquisitions that we'd 364 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,920 be looking for. And then the uh the obvious one is funding. 365 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:56,320 So, we have three options and I'm going to pass it off to uh to Adam to kind of 366 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:00,960 talk about these. But the three options that we have is a no build. You know, 367 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:06,240 obviously there's zero dollars involved in that. We could construct drainage 368 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:11,040 only. That gives us an estimate of about 600,000. And then if we construct the 369 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:17,040 entire roadway, which would be drainage, and the uh the connector road, that'd be 370 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:21,520 roughly $1.1 million. So, I'm going to pass it off to Adam and he can kind of 371 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,520 talk through some of the some of the details. 372 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:34,079 Good evening everybody. My name is Adam Bliss. I happily serve as your city 373 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:39,760 engineer. Um, so the reason we're here tonight is to 374 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:44,560 receive direction on this project. Um, this project we believe was 375 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:50,720 conceptualized back in 2004 in a main street study and then in 2019 it was 376 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:59,040 really studied as part of the route one saco scarboro uh corridor 377 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:06,320 and um one of the many concepts within that plan was this Smith Stockman 378 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:12,560 connector. So, for orientation, um we uh Smith Lane fronts the Chipotle and 379 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,400 Jersey Mike's uh restaurants. Um on the other side, right side of the 380 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,079 page is >> Excuse me, Adam. I'm just going to make 381 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:19,440 sure you speak right into the microphone. 382 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880 » Apologize for that. >> Thank you. 383 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:23,760 » Is that better? >> Yes. 384 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:28,960 » For the recording aspects, too. >> Thank you. Um, real quickly, Smith Lane 385 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:34,000 abuts the uh Chipotle Jersey Mike's restaurant and 386 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:39,839 on the right side of the page is uh Dairy Queen, which is Stockman. So, in 387 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:45,520 between is this Smith Stockman Connector Road. What I've done is taken um an 388 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:50,960 aerial photo, I've overlaid the design of the project and I've colored it to 389 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:56,640 illustrate the components of the project to grasp the scope of work. So this plan 390 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:02,800 is a an illustrative form of the scope of work. In purple is the connector 391 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:10,160 road. That is the primary reason we are here. The other um component to it, a 392 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:16,960 pretty significant factor is shaded in blue are drainage opportunities. I'll 393 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:22,640 say the larger blue uh shape is a storm water pond and the smaller two are more 394 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:28,000 ancillary storm water options. It's basically taking overland drainage and 395 00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:34,720 putting it into subsurface drainage pipe. The orange uh shape on the right 396 00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:43,680 side is a minor sidewalk extension going down Smith uh Smith Lane. 397 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:48,160 So again, um roadway, drainage, sidewalks. 398 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:52,560 Um Travis presented three options. There's the no build, then there's the 399 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:58,319 full build, which is all of those components, and then in between is just 400 00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,599 the drainage part. Um, both the drainage and the roadway have 401 00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:06,319 pros and cons to them, which should be communicated. Um, 402 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:12,400 there's the obvious traffic. That's the reason this idea was conceptualized was 403 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:18,960 for access management on Route One. And making the intersections, the signalized 404 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:25,040 intersections at Route One more efficient has pros and cons because 405 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:31,839 we're diverting traffic down potentially private or uh more quieter roads, 406 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:37,280 certainly quieter than than Route One. And then um so that can be a pro and con 407 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,240 depending on you know your how you how you view it. And then the drainage 408 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:46,720 component has a has a has a pro. It's an opportunity to capture some drainage 409 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:54,480 that comes from mostly private properties a little bit from US Route 1. 410 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:59,920 Um capture that treat it detain it and then slowly release it. But with that 411 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:06,640 with the construction of that pond, we have to take trees out and that that 412 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:14,880 could that would would mean um less buffering, less separation for in terms 413 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:21,119 of noise, light um and visual separation from those businesses that front route 414 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:26,720 one. So again, pros and cons to both of those components. And I'll take a pause. 415 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,880 I think I've, you know, pretty much illustrated the scope of work. I can 416 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:38,079 certainly go into detail, but I'll take a pause and let um counselors or mayor 417 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:41,520 ask any questions you may or may have. >> Thank you. Any questions from 418 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,839 counselors? Councelor Anin, then councelor Hwitt. 419 00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:48,520 » Thank you, mayor. Uh, just for my edification, where did this project come 420 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520 from? 421 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,319 » You want to It was when I was on council, but I'll let Travis [laughter] 422 00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:03,560 » Yeah. So, like Adam said, this was studied in or this was recommended in 423 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,560 previous studies. And then in 200 424 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:13,280 um 2022 was when council appropriated the money to begin the survey and the 425 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:18,400 design of the roadway. So, it's been in the works or recommended for for several 426 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:23,200 years and then we had the funding to be able to to move forward with the design. 427 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:27,520 So it was cons council initiated >> and if I remember correctly when 428 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,839 bitterford saco dental was built it was supposed to have been included at that 429 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,520 time correct and it did not get completed so it carried over. 430 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,800 » Yep. >> How much land has to be purchased? 431 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:57,680 » It's not loading. Maybe um here we go. Um less than an acre, maybe half an acre 432 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200 roughly. >> So 433 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,400 » a little bit more than half an acre. >> Quarter of a million dollars. 434 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:08,240 Half a million. >> Well, I honestly um councelor on and I 435 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:15,680 could not put a dollar value to it. Um I I really couldn't. 436 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:21,680 But um uh qualitatively I would say there are there are three land owners, 437 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:27,280 five easements. Three of them of those easements belong to the ledges. Um 438 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,760 that's the housing development. Um and of the three we already have one of 439 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:38,560 those easements. The other two easements are from Starbucks, a very small sliver, 440 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:44,400 and then um uh 3,300 square feet from IHOP. So 441 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:49,280 » just that um traffic safety did review this in 2025. So that continued after 442 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:55,119 that as well. >> And just uh just a note that all but 443 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,920 IHOP has been engaged in this process and there's been positive communication 444 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,920 with those related to the to the easements needed. 445 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:10,079 » So those have been done few years ago now but the conversations have been had. 446 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:16,440 Council Huitt, have the abuing land holders, they've all been notified then 447 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:16,440 from the conversation. Okay. 448 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:23,760 Council Gail. >> Uh could you remind me was there going 449 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:32,680 to be sidewalks included in the connector road or is it 450 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,680 was it just curb and drainage? 451 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,240 » One second, please. >> Yeah. Little uh little latency here. 452 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:50,480 » I believe there were sidewalks proposed. >> Okay. And then um 453 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:57,040 I guess with with this connector road then it gives us the option for access 454 00:45:53,040 --> 00:46:01,520 management on the frontage on route one too. Correct. if we were to to look at 455 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:06,400 that in the future um to make things safer at that 456 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,839 intersection on that road. 457 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:15,720 » And yes, Councelor Gail, sidewalks were included in the project. 458 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,720 » Great. 459 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:24,920 » Anyone else at this time? >> All right, continue. 460 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,920 Um 461 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,839 so some some of the finer points of this scope of work that I presented the again 462 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:43,200 the primary component is this connector road shaded in purple. Um great question 463 00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:48,480 on the sidewalks. Yes, it's an opportunity there. Sidewalk 464 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:53,839 connectivity, neighborhood connections. um gets pedestrians off the road. Right? 465 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:57,599 So, we're treating this as if it's a more of a complete street rather than a 466 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:04,240 thoroughfare. Um in the blue, which I've mentioned 467 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:11,119 already, the the primary the larger blue shape, is a storm water pond. That's for 468 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:18,240 quality and quantity. um capturing that runoff before it gets to uh downstream 469 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:24,079 receiving water bodies um and treating it. The the other drainage components 470 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:31,040 are relatively small. One is modifying an existing storm water pond um that 471 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:36,400 would be behind Starbucks. And then I mentioned on Stockman 472 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:40,960 um while we have the opportunity converting some overland flow and 473 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:45,359 putting it into underground piping which is more efficient and um easier to 474 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,839 maintain. Um I did mention the purple section 475 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:56,000 which is extending the sidewalk along Smith Lane. that would connect what is 476 00:47:52,240 --> 00:48:02,880 on Smith Lane to this connector road and further down to um Settler's Way which 477 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:09,319 is just to the uh east of this connector road and immediately abuing 478 00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:09,319 um 479 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:17,520 and I've mentioned it already buffering 480 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:22,240 that's that's you know that's uh there there will be a loss of trees and that 481 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,599 should not be taken lightly. You take trees down and then that enters in light 482 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:33,520 and noise and visual. Um there will be a buffer. We did plan for landscaping. We 483 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:40,000 did um in the design we did land uh plan for fenced screening but still you are 484 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:44,480 taking down mature trees. So um and I think lastly um Travis mentioned 485 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:51,119 permitting. We would have to go through the Army Corps of Engineers permitting 486 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:56,160 and the D uh permitting. Um pretty straightforward process. It takes time. 487 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,920 Um there are new rules with certain certainly with the Army Corps of 488 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:04,720 Engineers. Um something that should be known by the counselors is when we get a 489 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,440 permit from the Army Army Corps of Engineers, it's good for one year. The 490 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:14,319 new rules say it's you have an you have a year to complete that work and if it's 491 00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:20,480 not completed, then you either ask for an extension or you um reapply later 492 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:27,200 down the road. So that should factor in to your thoughts and the direction you 493 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:33,040 give to uh Travis and and myself tonight or some other moment um at some other 494 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,599 meeting if that's if that's how you want to handle it too. 495 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,559 » Thank you. Any final comments or questions? 496 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:51,119 I don't know what you're necessarily looking for this evening, but um just 497 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:57,920 for council, I'd say that I've advocated for this project for at at least four 498 00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:04,319 years, more like seven. Um my initial involvement with it was in 2017 when we 499 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:09,200 did the update to the 2011 comp plan. Uh Don Gerard, he's a former planning board 500 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:14,000 member, uh was on that committee with me and had brought up the 2025 plan. that 501 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:19,520 point, you know, you had a plan that was 12 years old and it made logical sense 502 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:26,640 that we had traffic issues and pedestrian issues at at that time, you 503 00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:31,440 know, in 2005. So, you know, to me, I understand there's some ramifications 504 00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:36,880 for the neighborhoods, but this is the only real solution we have and it's only 505 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:41,359 going to get worse. We've seen it from traffic safety. I can tell you that we 506 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:47,359 consistently have, you know, complaints, but issues with speeding, pedestrian 507 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:53,040 issues along uh the Route One corridor. It's it's our most traveled corridor. 508 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:58,400 It's only going to get more as we grow. This seems to me like a reasonable 509 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:01,920 solution. I I will add one U caveat here though, and it did come up at the 510 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,319 traffic safety meeting, which is, you know, the surrounding neighborhood. 511 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,040 I off the top of my head don't remember all the street names, but to the right, 512 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:16,400 you know, there are some concerns about cut through traffic there. And I think 513 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:21,920 all of those neighborhoods uh don't have any sidewalks. So, I think that's 514 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:26,480 something we should also consider as we potentially move this forward. How do we 515 00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:30,720 address some of the issues that those neighborhoods already have, but or 516 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:38,119 equally have more problems as we re reroute traffic? Um but otherwise I just 517 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,119 say I think we should move this forward. 518 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,720 » Council Arnon >> again thank you mayor I weigh in and 519 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,000 just agree with your comment. I think one of the things we want to recognize 520 00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:50,640 is that recently we just did the calming testing on route one for exactly that 521 00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:54,000 reason right we put in the speed bumps. We put in the pylons to see what we 522 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:58,000 could do to throttle traffic. So I think this is a good project. I'm just since 523 00:51:55,599 --> 00:52:03,200 new to council wanted to make sure I was understanding where $1.1 million was 524 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200 going to go. 525 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,960 Gil >> and just one other quick question. So 526 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:17,839 the the IHOP is that uh are they unresponsive or are they um 527 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:21,200 not in favor or causing issues with the easement 528 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:27,200 because I think we I thought I heard that we were basically everybody was all 529 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,400 the businesses were okay except for IHOP. 530 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,760 » Maybe I misinterpreted that. I believe it was we just hadn't heard anything 531 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,359 from Starbucks. >> Oh, from Starbucks. 532 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:40,880 » But we had heard had some positive uh reception from uh 533 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:45,599 » from everyone else, but it was just it's it's from a lack of 534 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,040 communication back, not necessarily that they are going to cause an issue with 535 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,160 with granting the easement. >> Yeah. Starbucks, we're just having 536 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,280 trouble getting to the right person. >> Sure. Yeah. 537 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,359 » But there's been no negative response from them. We just haven't got a 538 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:02,960 response. >> Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I would just I would 539 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:07,359 just add that I think um the vast majority of these commercial properties 540 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:11,520 will be benefiting from having this back access. I mean you look at say Dunkin 541 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:15,280 Donuts on any given morning and the lines out into Main Street, this would 542 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:21,400 give you know an alternative way to access uh which I think would benefit 543 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,400 their business. 544 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,240 » Anyone else? 545 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:32,400 » Okay. Uh, city administrator Pilot, this will come back to council as a new 546 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,400 business item or will we just bring it back? 547 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,839 » That's correct. We're gonna I mean, we the purpose tonight was to workshop 548 00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:41,280 this. I think we may have some folks here tonight that'll speak under public 549 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:45,280 comment uh just so you can hear more feedback, but this just gives staff the 550 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:49,839 opportunity to answer any questions this evening and we will come back. 551 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,000 » Thank you. All right. Thank you both. >> Thank you. 552 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:05,040 Okay, that completes the workshop items and I would like to call the official 553 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:08,400 meeting to order at 7:15. Would like to make note of all members present this 554 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,079 evening with the exception of councelor Doyle. And with us tonight we do have 555 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:16,119 city administrator Pelleteer. Would you please join me for the pledge of 556 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,119 » allegiance 557 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,599 to the flags 558 00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:26,359 nationisible? 559 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:36,000 » Thank you everyone. Okay, moving on to item number four. There is nothing under 560 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:39,599 general this evening. Item five is committee correspondence to council. Are 561 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:44,280 there any committee members wishing to share? Councelor Edwards. 562 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:52,079 » Thank you, Mayor. As we are in summer, many people are in 563 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:58,559 and out on vacations, but I wanted to remind you of the events coming up that 564 00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:06,319 are sponsored in part by SACO Main Street. Um, so, uh, this Saturday, Music 565 00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:14,640 on Maine, July 25th. This one is supposed to be uh team focused, but 566 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:22,559 certainly a great time for a free event next to the old Vic and Wits. Um and uh 567 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:26,880 you'll have fun. Also, August 1st coming up, there's Pride in the Park. It's a 568 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:31,839 totally free event. You can go to the sakomainstre.org or 569 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:38,480 uh to register if you want to be in the color run or if you want to volunteer. 570 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:45,119 And speaking about volunteers, they're always looking for volunteers. And I 571 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:50,720 understand you may not be available this summer, but when it's time to go back to 572 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:57,040 school and you may find yourself with some time, feel free to peruse the 573 00:55:53,520 --> 00:56:00,640 sakcomainstre.org or web page to take a look at volunteer opportunities. Thank 574 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,960 you. >> Great. Thank you very much. Anyone else? 575 00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:11,839 » Okay, moving on to item number six, that is public comment this evening and I 576 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:15,119 will start with the signup sheet. As I call your name, please step forward to 577 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:19,040 the podium. You will have three minutes to address the council and we ask that 578 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:24,760 you state your name, address for the record. All righty. First up, we have 579 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,760 Sarah Guiles Gardner. 580 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,760 Okay. 581 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,680 » Good evening. >> Evening. 582 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:47,280 » I might be falling apart, but I'm here. Um, 583 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:52,400 my name, Madame May, Good evening, Madame Mayor and City Council. My name 584 00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:57,200 is Sarah Jos Gardner and I live at 17 Pinehaven Street. 585 00:56:54,720 --> 00:57:04,400 Got that out of the way. I'm speaking tonight on behalf of the Blue Haven 586 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:08,559 resident uh committee and many Sco families who own their homes but not the 587 00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:14,079 land beneath them. I want to begin by thanking Councelor Bill Doyle. He showed 588 00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:19,119 up for our community long before he was elected. He read every email, answered 589 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:25,599 every question, and made sure our concerns were heard. Um, 590 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:30,160 his dedication meant a great deal to us, and we wish him the very best in his new 591 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:37,760 role as town manager new roster. We misses present on this council. Um, 592 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:43,200 councilors, thank you also for your work on the rent stabilization 593 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:47,200 ordinance. So far, article one uh says its purpose is to protect vulnerable 594 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,680 residents from housing insecurity, and we appreciate that. We are here because 595 00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:57,599 we want to continue working with you to make sure that the final ordinance truly 596 00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:01,280 reflects this goal. Our residents have participated in every step of the 597 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:06,079 process because these decisions directly affect 598 00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:12,559 our homes and our stability here in SACO. We are not here to criticize. We 599 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:17,839 are here to collaborate. And uh we believe a few key changes will make this 600 00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:24,240 ordinance strong and fair. Uh we respectfully ask that you consider um I 601 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:30,559 will list some five things to go over. The first one uh reduce the 15% vacancy 602 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:36,319 increase and clearly defined lawful vacancy. High vacancy increases lower 603 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:41,440 resident equity and harm affordability. affordable housing. Number two, remove 604 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:46,720 debt service and acquisition interest so residents are not paying the park 605 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:52,160 owner's mortgage. Number three, extend the rent increase hearing notices from 606 00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:58,640 14 days to 45 with certified mail. Number four, reserve the right oh, 607 00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:04,319 excuse me, reserve at least two rent stabilization board seats for mobile 608 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:09,599 home park residents. And number five, cap the rent increases at CPI or 5% 609 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:15,520 whichever is lower and remove the plus 1% language. Councilors, we are asking 610 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:20,160 for stability, transparency, and a fair process. We want an ordinance that 611 00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:25,359 protects both residents and the business side, one that prevents future crisises 612 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:29,359 and strengthens for years to come. Thank you for your time and your dedication, 613 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:33,400 your willingness to work with us. Thank you. 614 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:33,400 » Thank you, Sarah. 615 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,760 Okay, next on the list we have Barb Thomas. 616 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:52,640 Good evening counselors and mayor. I'm Barb Thomas. I live at Missouri Circle 617 00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:57,119 in Taco. I started this co-op, the Blue Haven 618 00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:01,520 Resident Cooperative, with one purpose in mind, to protect our community, keep 619 00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:06,160 it habitable, and ensure that residents are not pushed out of their homes by 620 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:10,880 rental increases. Over the past 9 to 10 months, we have gone through mediation, 621 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:15,119 face the possibility of a sale, built a cooperative, and found ourselves working 622 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:20,319 toward an ordinance that can f finally provide stability. This process has 623 01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:25,440 taught us that communities need backup plans and sometimes backup plans for the 624 01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:30,559 backup plans. Yesterday, with the help of CDI and their team, we were able to 625 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:35,040 bring residents together and share clear information about what has happened and 626 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:39,040 what comes next with our cooperative and our community. That conversation helped 627 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:44,640 the community begin to process everything we've been through and remind 628 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:49,520 us this work matters. Building a strong, informed, connected community is not 629 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:53,760 optional. It's essential. We also need you as a city council to 630 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,640 listen to and read the information residents are sharing with you. What we 631 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:04,640 provide is not noise. It is critical data that directly shapes the next in 632 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:09,040 this process. Whether pro cooperative ultimately purchase the park or the 633 01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:14,480 ordinance becomes the protections that residents need. Residents input must be 634 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:19,119 a part of your decision-making and not an afterthought. We do not want to lose 635 01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:22,720 any more members of our community. We have already lost one member of our 636 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:27,200 committee during this process and we cannot afford to see that continue. The 637 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:33,520 stress, uncertainty, and instability have real consequences for real people. 638 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:38,160 Without your support and without rent stabilization ordinance, this is not 639 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:42,480 one-sided. We risk that is not one-sided. we risk further harm to the 640 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,480 very residents this policy is meant to protect. We need to make sure this 641 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:50,720 ordinance moves forward sooner than rather than later. I also want to 642 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:55,119 personally thank Joe Gunn and councelor Bill Doyle for listening to residents 643 01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:59,040 and helping them navigate this process. Their willingness to hear residents 644 01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:03,680 concerns and engage directly has made a meaningful difference and we appreciate 645 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:07,520 their continued support. And now it is time for the rest of the city cel 646 01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:12,559 council to step forward to listen to residents to meet with this community 647 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:17,200 and to understand firsthand why this ordinance is so very important. You 648 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:21,920 cannot fully grasp the urgency of this situation without hearing directly from 649 01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:27,119 the people living through it. We are asking you to show up to engage and to 650 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:31,359 take this next step with us. We have done everything we can to 651 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:35,440 organize, educate and prepare. Now, we need your partnership, your attention, 652 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:39,119 and your action. The ordinance is a crucial step in protecting residents and 653 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:46,920 ensuring that this neighborhood remains stable and rooted in the people who call 654 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:46,920 it home. Thank you. Thank you. 655 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,720 Okay, next up is Kathy Dobbins. 656 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,720 Thank you, Mayor. Uh Kathy Dobbins, 28 Miss Circle. I'm actually running on 657 01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:02,880 three hours of sleep. I just got back at 3:00 from camping, so bear with me. Um, 658 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,960 we've been here, our community has been consistently asking for one essential 659 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,880 safeguard, a rent stabilization ordinance that proves strong, 660 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:14,960 enforcable, and future pro protections for residents. As the Blue Haven 661 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,799 Cooperative moves forward, we are looking for backup plan after backup 662 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:23,359 plan so that we can protect all residents. While we recognize the work 663 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:28,079 has gone into the current draft, the carveouts remain unbalanced and leave 664 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:32,160 the residents vulnerable to ownership and park changes. Again, I sent you an 665 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:36,160 email with all of our changes and highlighted exactly what we would like 666 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:39,520 to see in there. Um, across Maine, mobile home parks are being purchased by 667 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:43,440 out ofstate corporations that are out of touch with Maine values. These 668 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:48,319 communities strictly are investment assets to those owners. When these comm 669 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:54,319 companies take over, rent increase sharply. um negligent property 670 01:03:51,839 --> 01:04:00,640 maintenance is not being done and residents bear the burden. Communities 671 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:05,760 and residents have have a voice in this process. Uh we know exactly what happens 672 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:09,359 when distant ownerships replace local accountability over the nine 10 months 673 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:14,240 that we've been dealing with this. That is why the carveout matters. Language 674 01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:18,400 matters. Words matter. As written, they do not guarantee stability if the park 675 01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:22,640 is sold to another out ofstate buyer. They do not ensure protections carried 676 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,400 forward. They do not protect future owners from imposing aggressive rent 677 01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:31,039 increases and undermining the intent of this ordinance. This is not balance 678 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:34,880 policy. This is is is a resident protection option. And it's not 679 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:39,280 acceptable for the community that has already endured instability over these 680 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:44,160 10 months. We need an ordinance that protects all residents and all 681 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:49,440 populations and demographics. Regardless who owns the park, whether we 682 01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:53,280 buy it, another buyer comes in, we need protection. 683 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:58,079 Today, next year, a decade from now, we don't want to be continually here asking 684 01:04:55,039 --> 01:05:04,960 for your help. Granted, we like you all, but I'm tired. I'm exhausted. We have 685 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:08,000 put in the miles over the last year with these corrections. We'll be right back 686 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,520 here, like I said, fighting these same battles. Residents are not asking for 687 01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:16,400 special treatment. We're basically asking for security and the ability to 688 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:22,640 remain in our homes without fear of out of state investment companies coming in 689 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:26,319 to destabilize our over lives overnight. Your authority and the responsibility to 690 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:30,400 correct the ordinance. We're asking to you to strengthen the language and 691 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:35,160 letting us have a voice in that process. Thank you. 692 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,160 » Thank you. 693 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,839 Okay. Next up is Brian Lar Roach. 694 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:49,359 Good evening, Madame Mayor, council members. My name is Brian Larash. I live 695 01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:53,200 at 19 Reserve Circle over in sunny, beautiful Blue Haven. 696 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:55,839 Uh, before I get into this, I we actually have a letter that we're going 697 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:59,440 to read to Council Doyle. So, it's a personal letter. Um, so I'm going to 698 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,599 read through it and make the changes on the fly. So, if it gets a little hooky, 699 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:08,640 I apologize. So, let's give it a shot. We just want this noted on behalf for 700 01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:12,079 his record. Uh, dear councelor Doyle, it is with great sadness and tremendous 701 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:16,720 honor that I am here tonight to speak on behalf of the residents of Blue Haven 702 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:20,160 Mobile Home Park to express our deepest and most sincere gratitude for 703 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,760 everything that council Doyle has done for us and our community. When our 704 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:28,480 neighbor faced the devastating resignation of our dear friend, 705 01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:33,119 councelor Joe Gun, a heavy wave of uncertainty hit our park. Joe had a 706 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:37,359 fierce was a fierce ally and his sudden departure left many of us completely 707 01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:41,839 stranded. and if we had entirely lost our voice on the city council. It was a 708 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:45,680 frightening time for our community and the fear of being forgotten or left 709 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:50,160 without presentation was a very very serious reality. Yet in that exact 710 01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:54,480 moment of vulnerability, Council Doyle stepped in to give us a hand. Through 711 01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:58,640 his time serving our city, he consistently demonstrated an unwavering 712 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:03,039 support for Blue Haven. When we felt most silenced, he did not simply watch 713 01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:06,960 from the sidelines. He stepped up. He listened to our concerns and he 714 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:12,559 advocated fiercely for our community, our well-being, and our security. 715 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,799 His dedication gave us our voice back when we needed it most. And we are 716 01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:20,799 profoundly grateful for the stability and the peace of mind his efforts have 717 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:25,039 helped us secure for our families. And we know that he will always be there 718 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:29,119 anytime we need him in the future. What sets his service apart is his immense 719 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:33,200 professionalism. He brought that into every interaction. 720 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:37,520 He has always approached our community with respect, transparency, and a 721 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,520 relentless work ethic. No matter how complex the issue, Council Doyle 722 01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:45,920 navigated them with integrity and competence that earned the deepest 723 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:50,960 respect from everyone in our community. He proved to us that true leadership is 724 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:54,400 defined by accountability and action. Beyond his official duties, we also want 725 01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:58,400 to acknowledge a genuine friendship that he extended to us. 726 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:02,960 He never treated Blue Haven as a line item on a council agenda or just a block 727 01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:07,280 of votes. Instead, he took the time to know us as people, neighbors, and 728 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:11,760 friends. His warmth and his approachability, his nature, and his 729 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,039 empathy left a lasting impression in our hearts. 730 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:20,319 We thank you, Councelor Doyle, for your exceptional service, your steadfast 731 01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:23,920 defense of our park, and your enduring friendship. He is a true champion for 732 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,719 the residents of Blue Haven and we are incredibly proud proud to have him in 733 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:32,719 our corner. We wish him the very best in his future endeavors. With warmest 734 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:36,799 regards the residents of Blue Haven mobile home park. Uh thank you. I 735 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:41,520 appreciate this opportunity to speak before you. And if I can use these last 736 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:46,159 few seconds as our uh our colleagues have have uh noted that we would love a 737 01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:51,359 seat at the table during these ordinance stabilization meetings. Uh if possible, 738 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:56,239 we can talk somebody into being on that committee and I would nominate myself to 739 01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:00,080 volunteer my services and my time for as long as it takes to get this thing 740 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:04,679 realized and and approved. Thank you so much for your time. Good night. 741 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:04,679 » Thank you. 742 01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:09,880 » Okay, next up we have Lisa D. Roer. 743 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:21,759 Lisa D. Roa, 18 Pine Haven. I'm here to advocate 744 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:24,759 for the importance of this rent increase. 745 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:33,759 The ordinance will provide stabilization for our community and it will also 746 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:39,279 prevent trauma from unjustified rent increases. 747 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:43,839 I feel it is the responsibility of our town councils to provide this protection 748 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:48,960 for our rights. We have been asking for this to take 749 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:56,320 place for some time now. This will not go away or get better. 750 01:09:53,359 --> 01:10:05,159 It's only going to get worse. And our lot rent has doubled since. 751 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:05,159 Thank you. Thank you. 752 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,800 Okay. Next up, we have Zack Ashley. 753 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,840 Uh, good evening. Um, today I'm just standing sorry name and address for the 754 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,960 record. >> Okay. Uh, Zachary Ashley. Um, 24th 755 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,800 Theion Avenue. >> Thank you. 756 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:30,480 » And I just want to thank you for being responsive to our emails concerning the 757 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:36,159 valuations. Um, we've been I've been communication with my neighbors and all 758 01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:42,320 of us are with the new valuation hikes. If there's not a change in mill rate, um 759 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:46,880 all of us on our street, Theion Avenue, are expecting a thousand dollar tax 760 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:50,880 increase. Um 761 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:55,760 for many of us, we can weather it, but for many of my neighbors, this is going 762 01:10:52,880 --> 01:11:01,840 to push them over the edge financially. Um and we're a workingass street. I 763 01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:08,320 don't know if you've ever traveled down Theion Avenue. Um, 764 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:12,880 it's improving, but it's not it's definitely not Beach A or the 765 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:18,320 neighborhoods heading down towards Camp Dallas. It's very much a working-class 766 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:25,120 neighborhood. We and it's a tight community, but 767 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:29,520 um throughout this evaluation process, we did receive each of my neighbors and 768 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:35,920 I did receive letters from the assessor's office, but we did not 769 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:40,480 receive a personal walkthrough and I was not reached out in regards to 770 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,480 one. So, 771 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:54,000 I would like the console just to consider that 772 01:11:49,760 --> 01:12:00,239 um in regards to this whole process um because I've done some work in my house, 773 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:07,120 but I'm not sure if I've done $93,000 worth of work. So, 774 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:12,640 that's all I have. >> Thank you. 775 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:15,840 Okay, that completes the signup list. If there are any other members of the 776 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,800 public wishing to speak, please step forward, state your name and address for 777 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:22,679 the record, and you will have three minutes to address the council. 778 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:30,640 » Good evening. Uh Sandra G 52 Camil. Um this won't take three minutes. I'm just 779 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,640 I wasn't really planning on speaking tonight, but I just did want to briefly 780 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:38,960 talk about the connector road Smith and Stockton. Um, I was on the planning 781 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:43,360 board in 2004 when this first came up. Um, I was on the planning board in 2011 782 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:49,120 and on the comp plan committee at the time when it came up again. It's come up 783 01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:53,679 consistently, I think in 2015. It's been discussed um for a long time. I believe 784 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:59,199 that the Kentucky Fried Chicken, which was improved probably around 2005, 2006 785 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:04,080 or something, was required to provide an easement, I believe, behind there for 786 01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:08,560 that connector road. Um, it was a great idea then. It's a great idea. Now, I 787 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:12,960 hope the council moves forward with it. And I just want to say um there are no 788 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:17,280 sidewalks on Stockman where it's going to connect into. However, there's so 789 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:21,600 many cars right now that turn right at uh the Dairy Queen and then cut off in 790 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,520 one of those roads to the left in order to cut out the lights when they're going 791 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:29,360 heading down toward the beach. Um so that's already sort of an issue. I walk 792 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,880 up that way and bike up that way a lot and there's already quite a bit of 793 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:38,159 traffic there. This will probably add some to it, but it's already an issue. 794 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:41,400 That's all I have to say. Thank you. >> Thank you. 795 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:52,560 » Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of the council, my former colleagues, and 796 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:57,960 my friends. I am Joe Gun, currently at 22 Boonbrook Road, W 2. 797 01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:06,960 Uh 10 months ago, uh faced with the unfortunate circumstances that led to my 798 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:12,880 uh resignation from the council, um I called up uh former mayor Bill 799 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:16,400 Doyle after I saw the other two uh candidates, well intentions as they 800 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,640 were, who offered themselves in the special election. and other 801 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:25,840 circumstances with the issues facing the citywide. Not to mention in my former 802 01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:30,640 ward with these wonderful people behind me at Blue Haven who taught themselves 803 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:36,960 the art of politics, persuasion, and public advocacy in a matter of 10 months 804 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:43,199 and doing the hard work that comes with that. I said to Bill, I said, I know 805 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:48,560 that you are getting ready for your next uh professional chapter trying to be a 806 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:52,719 town or city manager somewhere and the responsibilities and the time that will 807 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:56,640 come with that. But your ward uh needs you right now. And I asked him in 808 01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:00,000 December when there was no other candidates willing to poke their heads 809 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:05,199 up, please come out of political retirement and uh do the hard work for 810 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:09,760 as long as you can take. And after some persuasion, he agreed to stand for 811 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:16,640 election and the people of my w former ward returned him to office. And I am 812 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:20,080 extremely thankful for his brief return. And I certainly hope that uh the 813 01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:24,320 counselors who did not have the privilege of serving with him during his 814 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:28,640 previous stance as mayor as counselor were able to glean from him uh the 815 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:35,040 knowledge and experience that he brought to the table during his tenure um in 816 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:40,560 previous office. and are especially on the issues of affordability and housing 817 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:45,520 that he uh improved the debate and improved your perspectives that you all 818 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:51,360 had to deal with not only with the folks in my former ward though but citywide as 819 01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:57,440 this becomes a statewide issue. And I certainly want to also pay tribute 820 01:15:53,600 --> 01:16:02,480 to um the recent dedication of the uh of the of the jetty expansion down in Camp 821 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:07,920 Ellis. And they say victory has a thousand mothers and fathers. And many 822 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:16,000 years ago, it was Mayor Doyle who was pivotal in marshalling the votes 823 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:19,600 that got us that that um that jetty. So while there are many mothers and fathers 824 01:16:17,679 --> 01:16:24,239 of that, he definitely deserves to be at the front of that list as finally 825 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:30,159 getting that long odyssey done. And I simply want to simp uh thank him for his 826 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:34,800 years of service. And while he is the Sako's loss, it is New Gloucester's 827 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:40,320 gain. He is helping that select board help a thriving and growing city uh grow 828 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:45,360 by leaps and bounds. And I know he's having the time of his life up there. So 829 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:51,199 I wish him all the best as my friend for over three decades. And I simply want to 830 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:57,760 encourage any and everyone behind me in Ward 3 uh to step up as I did as a 831 01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:02,400 regular citizen. The city needs you. The city needs your input and hopefully we 832 01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:08,159 can have a new qualified member of the council very soon. And I also look 833 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:13,120 forward to your debate on charter amendments because I think any of them 834 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:17,760 will be fruitful and necessary um as it relates to future uh vacancies on the 835 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,560 council. Thank you for your time, madame mayor, members of the council, city 836 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:23,719 administrator. >> Thank you. 837 01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:33,280 Anyone else wishing to speak? Yep. 838 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:38,239 You can choose who comes up first. >> I've been up here. Oops. Excuse me. I've 839 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:45,040 been up here on this uh what I need to say. Richard Goslin, Southern Missouri 840 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:51,280 Circle at Blue [clears throat] Raven Mo Home Park. 841 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:59,280 I want council to know they would really appreciate the more returns we've had. 842 01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:07,440 That help to some extent. But come December 31st, 2027, 843 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:12,239 our rent's going to be $660 a month versus my 515 844 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:19,679 that it had been. So with that said, the majority of the 845 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:23,840 residents in the park are on limited social security 846 01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:30,320 and a lot of them I I don't know what they're going to do. It's tough and 847 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:36,719 don't believe that there's any financial help that the city or organization would 848 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:40,560 pay for half their taxes. So, with that said, and I've said this 849 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:48,560 before, we've got midterm elections coming up 850 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:52,800 and [clears throat] there are some communities, 851 01:18:50,080 --> 01:19:01,920 but our next door neighbors will larger beach 852 01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:07,520 voted in a 5% maximum raise per month or per year, I'm sorry, at the mobile 853 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:12,880 home park. and one of them is steel loan. 854 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:19,199 So hopefully the council does have the power to put that on the agenda for the 855 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:23,760 general public to at least have a choice to vote for that. 856 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,920 » Thank you very much. >> Thank you. 857 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:40,080 » Hi, my name is Pamela Sears. I'm at eight settlers away. Just wanted to 858 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:49,440 thank you all for being here and um just wanted to talk about the um Stockman 859 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:55,360 Smith connector. Um I live right behind Starbucks and my concern is about the 860 01:19:52,800 --> 01:20:02,320 wetland area and the runoff that's coming from the commercial properties 861 01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:07,600 and Route One. Um, it's been there's been some significant 862 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:13,840 runoff and poor drainage within that wetland and it's caused a lot of settle 863 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:19,520 settlement or erosion in that area and it's actually affected my driveway. Um, 864 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:26,400 and it's also affecting the whole length of my property. Um, so I'm just asking 865 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:31,840 that the council consider um if they're not interested in a connector to also 866 01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:39,800 consider the drainage option that's in there as well. And I sent some photos I 867 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,800 think as well. Thank you. Thank you. 868 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,640 Anyone else wishing to speak? 869 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:53,040 Okay, not seeing anyone seeking recognition. Moving on to item seven, 870 01:20:50,800 --> 01:21:01,400 that is the approval of the minutes for July 6, 2026. Is there a motion? 871 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,400 » So moved. Councelor Huitt. 872 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:07,760 » Motion made by councelor Hwitt. Any discussion or comment on the minutes? 873 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,360 » You want a second? >> Yes, please. 874 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:16,239 » I'll second it. >> Second by councelor Edwards. 875 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:20,719 All right. Now, any discussion or question on the minutes? 876 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:24,239 Hey, roll call vote. Councelor Edwards, yes. Councelor Parks, yes. 877 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,400 » Councelor Anin, yes. Councelor Gail, yes. Councelor Hwitt, yes. Councelor 878 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:30,480 Johnston, >> yes. 879 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:35,040 » Motion passes 6. >> Item eight, consent items. There are two 880 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:38,960 and that is item A is the annual report filing extension and item B is to 881 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:44,239 confirm the mayor's appointment to the shoreline commission of Yana Josephin. 882 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:47,840 Is there a motion? So move. 883 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:50,000 » Motion made by councelor Johnston. Is there a second? 884 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,800 » Second. >> Second by councelor Anen. 885 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,679 » Any item that you wish to have moved? 886 01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:02,000 » Okay, not seeing anyone. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards, 887 01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,199 » yes. >> Councelor Parks, 888 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,280 » yes. >> Councelor Anin, yes. 889 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:06,400 » Councelor Gail, yes. >> Councelor Huitt, 890 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,679 » yes. >> Councelor Johnston, 891 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:12,480 » yes. >> Motion passes 6. 892 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:17,840 » Okay, moving on to item nine that is action items. And item A tonight is the 893 01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:21,280 one reading for the accept acceptance of councelor Doyle's resignation and that 894 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:25,600 is councelor Parks. >> Thank you madame mayor. Councelor Doyle 895 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:30,639 has submitted an email of resignation and if accepted by council the position 896 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:34,639 will be vacated immediately. Be it ordered that the city council accepts 897 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:39,760 the resignation of councelor William Doyle effective immediately. 898 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:44,560 » Motion has been made by councelor Parks. Is there a second? 899 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:49,280 » Second. Second by councelor Edwards. Any discussion on the item? 900 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,600 Councelor Hwitt. >> Just want to thank um councelor Doyle 901 01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:58,719 for his continued support of the city and the efforts he made um with all the 902 01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:05,040 counselors. >> Thank you, councelor Gail. Yeah, I just 903 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:11,280 second that and and um um Councelor Doyle um uh really helped me and and 904 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:16,880 encouraged me to run for school board many years ago and that got me um really 905 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:20,719 involved in the city. So, I thank him for his commitment to the city and and 906 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:27,199 all his hard work and wish him well and his u his next endeavor here. 907 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:31,679 » Thank you. Anyone else? Council Johnston. 908 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:39,040 » Thank you. Um likewise I have served with Bill or Councelor Doyle through all 909 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:43,280 of his service to the community. Um I thought it was you know noble of him 910 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:49,280 to step up and fill the role when councelor Gun was you know inadvertently 911 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:54,719 or uh forced out. So I just would like to thank him personally for serving ward 912 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:59,520 three. Thank you. >> Thank you. 913 01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:01,199 Okay. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards, >> yes. 914 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,480 » Councelor Parks, >> yes. 915 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,679 » Councelor Arnan, >> yes. 916 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,719 » Councelor Gail, >> yes. 917 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,920 » Councelor Hwitt, >> yes. 918 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,440 » Councelor Johnston, >> yes. 919 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:12,719 » Motion passes 6. >> Okay, moving on to item B. That is one 920 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,679 reading of the fee schedule clarification, and that is Councelor 921 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:19,600 Parks. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. It has been 922 01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:25,120 brought to staff's attention that the fee schedule adopted on budget night did 923 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:31,920 not reflect the correct and current fee for outside police assignments officer 924 01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:37,840 with cruiser. The correct fee is $90 per hour, but the fee schedule adopted in 925 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:43,520 May inadvertently reflected $80 per hour. Because that is a request to 926 01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:49,840 clarify the correct fee amount. Staff respectfully asks that this be completed 927 01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:54,639 through the one reading process. Be it ordered that the Sco City Council 928 01:24:52,320 --> 01:25:02,000 approves the fee schedule clarification to correctly reflect the $90 per hour 929 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:06,560 for outside police assignments officer with cruiser. I move to approve the 930 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,960 » Thank you. A motion has been made by councelor Parks. Is there a second? Yes. 931 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:14,960 Second. >> Second by councelor Edwards. 932 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:17,920 Comment or discussion on this item. >> Okay. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. 933 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,280 » Yes. >> Councelor Parks. 934 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,480 » Yes. >> Councelor Anin. 935 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:21,600 » Yes. >> Councelor Gail. 936 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,639 » Yes. >> Councelor Huitt. 937 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,840 » Yes. >> Councelor Johnston. 938 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:29,360 » Yes. >> Motion passes 6. 939 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:34,080 » Okay. Item C is a public hearing for the proposed ordinance amendment to chapter 940 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:38,560 60, ambulance service to provide for an annual educational funding allocation 941 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:43,360 and an annual ambulance division equipment reserve fund. And that is 942 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:47,280 councelor Parks. Fire Chief Hamill has requested the 943 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:52,880 creation of annual reserves for educational funding allocation and 944 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:57,679 ambulance division equipment, both to be funded from the ambulance fund. To 945 01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:02,239 specify that the existing ambulance fund can be used for these purposes, staff 946 01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:06,320 has compiled the attached ordinance amendment for city council's 947 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:11,280 consideration. I move to open the public hearing on the 948 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:15,280 proposed ordinance amendment to chapter 60 ambulance service. 949 01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:20,159 » Thank you. Motion has been made to open the public hearing. Is there a second? 950 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:23,960 » Second. >> Second by councelor Gail. 951 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,000 » Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. >> Yes. 952 01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:29,520 » Councelor Parks. >> Yep. 953 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,520 » Councelor Anin. Yes. >> Councelor Gail. Yes. 954 01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:33,040 » Councelor Hwitt. Yes. >> Councelor Johnston. 955 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,679 » Yes. >> Motion to open the public hearing at 956 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:40,719 7:47. passes 6. If there are any members of the public 957 01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:46,120 wishing to speak, please step forward, state your name and address for the 958 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,120 record, and you will have three minutes. 959 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:57,600 Okay, not seeing any members wishing to speak. Councelor Parks, 960 01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:03,360 » I move to close the public hearing and further move to schedule the second and 961 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:07,440 final reading on August 3rd, 2026. >> Thank you. A motion to close the public 962 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:09,520 hearing and move the item to August 3rd. Has been made by councelor Parks. Is 963 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,800 there a second? >> Second. 964 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:17,840 » Second by councelor Edwards. Any discussion from counselors? 965 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,360 » Okay. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. >> Yes. 966 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,880 » Councelor Parks. >> Yes. 967 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,920 » Councelor Anen, >> yes. 968 01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:22,960 » Councelor Gail, >> yes. 969 01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:24,320 » Councelor Huitt, >> yes. 970 01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:26,800 » Council Johnston, >> yes. 971 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:30,440 » Motion passes 6 to close the public hearing at 7:48. 972 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:38,320 Okay, moving on to item D. That is a public hearing for the renewal 973 01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:41,600 application for special entertainment permit for the Golden Rooster. And that 974 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:46,560 is Councelor Johnston. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Chris Rizakos 975 01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:50,719 doing business as Golden Rooster Restaurant, 236 Main Street, has applied 976 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:53,840 for a renewal of the establishment's special entertainment permit. The permit 977 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,960 would be concurrent with the establishment's liquor license. The 978 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,520 applicant has paid all applicable permit fees and the clerk has properly 979 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:05,199 advertised the public hearing in accordance with SACO city code chapter 980 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:08,480 93 entertainment 93-2. The clerk has also checked with code enforcement, the 981 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:12,400 finance department, fire department, and police department. And there were no 982 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,400 concerns. I move to open the public hearing. 983 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,960 » Thank you. A motion has been made to open the public hearing by councelor 984 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,920 Johnston. Is there a second? >> Second. 985 01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:22,159 » Second by councelor Gail. >> Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. 986 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,360 » Yes. >> Councelor Parks. 987 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,320 » Yes. >> Councelor Anen, yes. Yes. Councelor 988 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,679 Gail. Yes. Councelor Hwitt. Yes. >> Councelor Johnston. 989 01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:32,159 » Yes. >> Motion to open the public hearing passes 990 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:35,280 6 at 7:49. >> If there are any members of the public 991 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:40,840 wishing to speak, please step forward, state your name and address for the 992 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,840 record, and you will have three minutes. 993 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,719 Okay. Not seeing anyone seeking recognition. Councelor Johnston, 994 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:52,320 » I move to close the public hearing. It be ordered that the city council grant 995 01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:55,600 the renewal application submitted by Chris Rizakos doing business as Golden 996 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,239 Rooster Restaurant for a special entertainment permit to be concurrent 997 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:02,719 with the establishment's current liquor license. I move to approve the order. 998 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,320 » Motion has been made by councelor Johnston. Is there a second? 999 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,199 » Second. >> Second by councelor Edwards. 1000 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:13,080 » Any discussion or comment on the item from councilors? 1001 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,560 » Okay, not seeing anyone. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. 1002 01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,719 » Yes. >> Councelor Parks. 1003 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,000 » Yes. Councelor Anin, >> yes. 1004 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,840 » Councelor Gail, yes. >> Councelor Hwitt, yes. 1005 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,880 » Councelor Johnston, >> yes. 1006 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:29,480 » Motion to close the public hearing and approve the order passes at 75060. 1007 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:37,760 » Okay, moving on to item E that is the first reading for the Dire Library 1008 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:43,760 funding request and that is councelor Hwitt. 1009 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:48,320 During the fiscal year of 2026 budget process, the city council 1010 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:53,120 allocated funding for the Dyer Library for capital improvement projects. As 1011 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:57,679 part of that discussion, the Dire Library was asked to present project 1012 01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:02,480 information to the city council and formally request authorization to use 1013 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:08,080 these funds. After this first reading, the final step of the process is to is a 1014 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:12,239 final reading. Be it ordered that the SACO city council 1015 01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:16,960 approve the first reading of the Dire Library funding request in the amount of 1016 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:23,040 $75,000 and further moves to schedule the final 1017 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:26,480 reading on August 3rd, 2026. I move to approve the order. Thank you. A motion 1018 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,120 has been made by councelor Hwitt. Is there a second? 1019 01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:33,000 » Second. >> Second by councelor Edwards. 1020 01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:39,199 Any discussion or comment on these items? 1021 01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:45,600 Councelor Hwitt. Hello. Um, I'm aware of this project and 1022 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:49,360 have seen it. Um, as someone who's been at atteing 1023 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:53,679 kids being brought in classroom after classroom into the children's room, it's 1024 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:58,800 a tight space sometimes. You've got families with young children. You have 1025 01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:04,000 some um other people. They're trying to use the same space. And as times are 1026 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:09,199 getting economically tough for families, the library is somewhere that people can 1027 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:15,280 go and enjoy their resources at no charge. So, I know right now hearing the 1028 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:19,840 tax valuations, I'm cringing at any asks in the budget as a counselor. Um, but I 1029 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:26,320 also want everybody to consider the benefits that the the library gives us. 1030 01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:30,800 Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. Okay. And I do believe we have Director Smith with 1031 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:37,960 us and she had a small presentation she was going to give. 1032 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,960 Good evening. Hello everyone. 1033 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:45,239 See if my computer works this time. 1034 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:14,480 Unfortunately, my computer is not agreeing with the um software for the 1035 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,199 click shore. So, I do apologize that you won't see it on the screens, but I 1036 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:21,920 believe you all received my presentation as part of the packet for this meeting. 1037 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:25,120 Um so, anyway, uh good evening, Mayor McFale, and members of city council. Um 1038 01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:29,040 I'm here tonight to present Dire Libraryies youth services renovation and 1039 01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:33,760 expansion plan. Right now, the youth services department operates an 1040 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:37,040 extrained 1,250 square foot space. Increased family attendance has pushed 1041 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:41,920 our children's room beyond its functional limits. Strollers block block 1042 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:45,760 pathways, tween film Tik Toks next to babies chewing on board books, and noise 1043 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:50,320 conflicts compromise both programmatic quality and public access. Our solution 1044 01:32:48,639 --> 01:32:53,760 is a targeted expansion providing maximum impact with minimal 1045 01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:57,600 interruption. Designed in partnership with the architecture firm Woodh Hall, 1046 01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:01,840 we are adding an additional 650 square feet from an underutilized adjacent 1047 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:05,600 meeting room. While the final furnishings are under development, um 1048 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:10,320 the model in your plan demonstrates how our we're using age targeted zones to 1049 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:13,840 best serve our community. There will be an early childhood area with space for 1050 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,600 dedicated readaloud, creative play, and stroller parking. Beginning elementary 1051 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:21,120 readers will have a cozy area for developing their literacy skills and 1052 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:24,880 tween will find targeted space for homework help and maker space. 1053 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:28,320 Importantly, we'll also proide comfortable space for parents and 1054 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:33,040 caregivers to connect and socialize while supporting early literacy. 1055 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:36,800 After all a lot of work on this project, the budget came in much higher than 1056 01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:40,239 anticipated at $113,000. We are funding it through the anchor 1057 01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:44,000 funding that was set aside in the fiscal year 26 budget. Um, and we're not 1058 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:49,360 changing the ask from the city. That's $75,000 is all that we're looking for. 1059 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:53,679 We're looking to um we've scoped this project to fit as well as possible 1060 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:56,719 within the funds that we had um allowed. The remaining construction balance will 1061 01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:00,960 be taken from a restricted endowment that was left very spec narrowly for by 1062 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:06,719 the Daring family who left the house to the library um for just this future, you 1063 01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:11,040 know, where an unusual change had to be made to to make the house into a 1064 01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:16,000 functional space. The other um costs for furnishing the space will be done by 1065 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:19,600 targeted fundraising. Um our anticipated schedule, assuming everything is 1066 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:25,120 approved and our f funding comes through, um is to begin all of the early 1067 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:29,840 steps now with the hope of starting construction in early 2027 with an 1068 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,560 anticipated completion of late spring 2027. 1069 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:37,520 Thank you so much for your continued partnership and I welcome any questions. 1070 01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:41,840 » Thank you. Any questions on the project? Council Ronin. Thank you, Madam Mayor. 1071 01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:47,199 Um, the first question is to me a little obvious. We're only three months past 1072 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:51,760 the budget cycle. Uh, is there a reason we didn't include this in the 2027 1073 01:34:49,679 --> 01:34:55,600 budget? This seems to be a fairly extensive renovation, not one that you 1074 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:59,360 came up with last month. So, I'm really curious why it wasn't baked in at that 1075 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:03,120 point in time. Um, and also, it sound like you answered my previous questions. 1076 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:09,120 This this budget is a new number, not one that's recycled from last year. So 1077 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:13,520 in the um for the fiscal year 26 budget process I was invited to submit some 1078 01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:17,280 capital projects this was one of them at that point in time which you know 1079 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:23,440 January 2025 I 2026 I put in the amount of of $75,000 1080 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:27,920 kind of as a placeholder um and then it got designated as sort of a special 1081 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:32,239 restricted fund for use for this purpose. Um we have spent the dire 1082 01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:36,080 library association has spent the past year trying to pull together the details 1083 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:39,760 for this project to make sure that it's conceivable. Um needless to say there 1084 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:42,880 were more zeros to this project when we first started talking to the architect 1085 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:46,320 and we've had to scope down really carefully to ensure that it's something 1086 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:50,560 that we can manage with the the allocation given by city council and 1087 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:55,040 within funds that we have at our disposal. Um it was not rolled forward 1088 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:58,480 in the fiscal year 27 budget because there was a little bit of uncertainty on 1089 01:35:56,480 --> 01:36:03,520 where it actually sat I think in the in the the big budget um municipal budget. 1090 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:07,440 Um but I defer to the city administrator for that. 1091 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:13,040 » Yeah. Yeah. So um Director Smith is correct. The library has done everything 1092 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:20,320 that it was asked to do. council in 2020 for FY26 took that made a motion um to 1093 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:25,120 put the funds that were set aside in capital into this special revenue fund 1094 01:36:22,719 --> 01:36:30,880 for this very purpose of her coming back to council for a presentation and as 1095 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:36,080 they have projects allow the funds to flow to them. So um it's not in the 27 1096 01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:41,520 budget. It was in the 26 budget, >> but allocated in 26 into a fund pool 1097 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:44,560 that allowed them to pull it forward when they needed it 1098 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:46,560 » after coming to council and presenting. >> Okay. 1099 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,800 » Correct. Thank you. >> You're welcome. 1100 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:53,119 » My computer screen is working now. So, if you want to see just briefly the sort 1101 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:57,679 of scope of work, we're talking about um changing the 1102 01:36:55,040 --> 01:37:03,600 taking down the green sections um to make two rooms kind of merge into one. 1103 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:10,400 » Any other questions or comments? Councelor Gil. 1104 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:14,719 » Um, as a frequent user, uh, I definitely am in support of the project and see 1105 01:37:12,639 --> 01:37:20,480 definitely see the the benefits and and value there. Um, I guess there's a 1106 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:26,480 couple questions on on that on the budget piece. you mentioned that um you 1107 01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:31,679 had scoped it down but and then uh let's see on exhibit two I'm not sure what 1108 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:35,600 slide number it is uh there was a a table with the costs 1109 01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:40,960 » and you had mentioned that there was a note uh active collaboration with SACO's 1110 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:46,320 municipal facilities team is projected to drive total construction costs below 1111 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:51,520 the original 113,000 estimate I guess I'm I just want to 1112 01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:57,600 confirm with the with the schedule that you have in place and those costs. Um, 1113 01:37:54,800 --> 01:38:03,119 what is the risk for cost overruns? And if there is a cost overrun, what is 1114 01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:08,400 that? What's the implication to to the city's budget on that piece? 1115 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:11,840 » So, there's no um cost. I'm not going to be asking for more money for this 1116 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:15,119 project. My understanding is that 75,000 was designed designated for this purpose 1117 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:20,639 and that's the only amount of money that I'm asking for at this point in time. 1118 01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:24,400 Um, I hope that we are able to use our partnership with the city and and 1119 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:29,600 facilities department to reduce some of the sort of little things that get that 1120 01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:34,480 come along during part of a construction project. Um, and to reduce some of the 1121 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:38,800 costs that can end up being complicated. Um, but at the end of the day, when if 1122 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:42,480 and when we run into overages on this project, um, that is something that we 1123 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:46,400 will work on our end to cover. >> Okay. And so, so just to confirm, so it 1124 01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:49,920 sounds like you've been working with our facilities 1125 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:54,239 department and and scoping this out and and coming up with the cost estimates. 1126 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:57,119 » Yes, they've been they've been um you know, we've definitely talked with them 1127 01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:02,159 throughout the process to ensure that we're not overreaching or doing anything 1128 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:03,679 that their support um would not work with. 1129 01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:07,520 » Sure. >> Thank you, Council Ronin. 1130 01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:10,639 » Uh thank you again, Madame Mayor. And and following on to your question, Will, 1131 01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:14,400 if we are going to be using inkind services from the city, can we make sure 1132 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,840 that we are accounting for those when we get done with the final budget act when 1133 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:21,600 the final budget is totaled so we understand what the participation of the 1134 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:25,280 incind services were relative to the total cost? 1135 01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:27,600 » I am happy to track that, you know, to the or hopefully I can get tracked on 1136 01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,400 the city side since I don't know what the rates are for everything, but I 1137 01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:37,199 would love to have that number as well. >> Great. Thank you. 1138 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:41,920 » Okay. Anyone else? Okay, thank you very much. 1139 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,199 Okay, not seeing any other questions or comments. Roll call vote. 1140 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,719 » Councelor Edwards, >> yes. 1141 01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:47,920 » Councelor Parks, >> yes. 1142 01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:48,960 » Councelor Anin, >> yes. 1143 01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:49,920 » Councelor Gail, >> yes. 1144 01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:51,119 » Councelor Hwitt, >> yes. 1145 01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:55,320 » Councelor Johnston, >> yes. 1146 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,320 » Motion passes 6. 1147 01:39:56,719 --> 01:40:03,280 » Okay, that takes care of the action items for tonight. Moving on to item 10 1148 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:09,440 under new business. Item A is a call for letters of interest for the W three 1149 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:15,119 council vacancy. City administrator. >> Um so there is going to be a call. Um 1150 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:18,440 did you want councelor Parks to read the item commentary? 1151 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:24,239 » Um we can or we can just do an update where it is not actually being presented 1152 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:30,000 and it's under new business. >> Very well. Um, so tomorrow, um, the city 1153 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:35,040 clerk will advertise publicly the, uh, call for interested parties in Ward 3. 1154 01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:40,159 Uh, our charter requires a 21-day notice. Uh, so August 12th will be the 1155 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:43,440 deadline for people interested in running for that seat or being 1156 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:47,840 appointed, excuse me, for that seat. In concurrence with that, because uh 1157 01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:52,960 councelor Doyle resigned outside of the 75day window, that position will also be 1158 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:58,080 advertised for a special election that will be held at the regular election 1159 01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:03,199 date of November 3. Um so people interested in being appointed need to 1160 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:07,600 have their letters in by August the 12th and a public hearing uh with those 1161 01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:13,040 interested to address council for the appointment will happen on the August 1162 01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:16,280 17th uh council meeting night. Thank you. 1163 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:23,320 Any questions or comments regarding the appointment schedule? 1164 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:30,480 Okay, moving on to item B that is the proposed charter amendments. 1165 01:41:29,679 --> 01:41:35,679 The administrator, >> we've received a few um proposed charter 1166 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:40,719 amendments. Two from councelor Doyle, two for two from councelor uh Johnson. 1167 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:45,840 Those have been included in your packet. Um, we'll continue to work with council 1168 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:49,280 on making refinements to those charter amendments. Uh, happy to answer any 1169 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:53,840 questions this evening if, uh, council has any. 1170 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:57,040 » Thank you. On your review of the charter amendments. Any questions or comments? 1171 01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:03,119 Councelor Gail. >> Just a technical question on on 1172 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:08,320 councelor Doyle's. Um, so that will be continued that will be carried through. 1173 01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:10,320 I keep because the seat is vacant that that doesn't affect 1174 01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:13,840 » this will come back. >> These requests will come back to council 1175 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:17,199 to vote on. So it's up to the council the remaining council members if you 1176 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:21,840 wish to move those forward or make changes to them. 1177 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:26,960 » Okay. Thanks. >> Anyone else? 1178 01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:30,880 » And city administrator, what is the deadline for amendments to be submitted? 1179 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,040 Have we we passed that? >> We passed that. Okay. 1180 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,600 » So, these are the these are the amendments that we'll be working with uh 1181 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:43,360 with the council on. I believe we'll be coming back on August 3 for first 1182 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:47,280 reading. Um and then ultimately once uh council approves proposed charter 1183 01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:51,639 amendments, they get voted on by the citizens at the November 3rd election. 1184 01:42:58,480 --> 01:43:07,320 and councelor Parks when this comes back for council vote you are the councilly 1185 01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:07,320 uh resource. Thank you. 1186 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:14,000 » Okay. Item C is the dire library draft memorandum of understanding theou city 1187 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:18,960 administrator. >> Yep. Um so this is follows through with 1188 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:23,280 some of the comments made earlier during uh director Smith's presentation. Uh 1189 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:27,760 during budget, we determined that it would be a good idea for both parties to 1190 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:34,080 codify the relationship that the city has with Dyer Library for the inind 1191 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:40,560 services that we um had been providing and um with the addition of the 1192 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:47,280 facilities um support. So uh administration has been working with 1193 01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:51,679 director Smith to propose a draftou. Um this is under new business. So, we ask 1194 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:56,320 council to review. Uh, if there are any suggested changes or questions, we're 1195 01:43:53,760 --> 01:44:00,400 happy to take those into consideration. Um, we are working with our legal 1196 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:05,280 counsel to finalize this and it will come back um at a future time for 1197 01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:10,480 action. >> Thank you. Any questions or comments 1198 01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:14,719 regarding theou >> and coun Oh, council Johnston. 1199 01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:21,119 » Thank you. Uh, well, first happy to see that we're working on anou. Um, I guess 1200 01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:26,080 my only comment for for council or everyone is given and and I've mentioned 1201 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:31,360 this the administrator and the mayor previously, but given that this 1202 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:37,520 relationship seems to be evolving specifically more in the area of funding 1203 01:44:33,679 --> 01:44:43,520 and now uh services, city providing services. Um, I'm just wonder if we 1204 01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:48,239 already have a council liaison. I I don't think it's unreasonable to give 1205 01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:54,960 that council liaison voting powers similar to the way BOB is where that's 1206 01:44:50,639 --> 01:45:00,960 also what quasi municipal entity and our liaison to that board have voting 1207 01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:04,880 rights. U so it's something I mentioned previously to the mayor. I'm just 1208 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:09,920 throwing it out there because I think given the amount of funding and now 1209 01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:15,920 services that we're providing it may be warranted. 1210 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:19,920 Thank you. Anyone else? And councelor Huitt, you are listed as 1211 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:25,119 the resource and you're okay with that? Certainly. Thank you. 1212 01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:28,719 » Okay, that completes the new business items. Moving on to item 11 is the 1213 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:32,639 administrative update. City administrator, 1214 01:45:29,679 --> 01:45:36,639 » I do apologize. It is four pages long. I am going to try to abbreviate it. I just 1215 01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:40,320 want the community to know that uh the full report is online. Um, and we're 1216 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:45,760 happy to provide a written report if anybody wants to stop by city hall. 1217 01:45:44,403 --> 01:45:50,880 [clears throat] Rescheduled community history project walking tour. Join city 1218 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:55,760 historian Peter Sconress on Friday, July 31st at 2 p.m. for the 2-hour guided 1219 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:59,440 experience exploring eight of the newly installed historic signs throughout 1220 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:04,800 downtown. Space is limited and registration is required. Sign up today 1221 01:46:01,679 --> 01:46:10,320 at sakcomain.org/chpalking tour. RFP for Route 1 north sewer shed 1222 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:13,920 capacity and infrastructure assessment. City of SACO seeks proposals from 1223 01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:18,320 qualified engineering consulting firms to conduct a comprehensive sanitary 1224 01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:22,719 sewer capacity assessment of the Route 1 corridor north of the Milbrook Business 1225 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:27,360 Park. Proposals will be accepted until 12 p.m. on Tuesday, September 15th, 1226 01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:32,159 2026. Remote work through libraries project. 1227 01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:35,760 Dyer Library has successfully completed its remote work through libraries 1228 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:39,760 project. Highlighted by an accessible six to eight person glass meeting room 1229 01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:44,080 on the main floor and paired with commercialgrade Wi-Fi and wireless 1230 01:46:41,679 --> 01:46:48,159 printing. This modern hub offers SACO's remote workforce and community groups 1231 01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:52,960 highly functional zero barrier space to connect and work. Nomination papers were 1232 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:57,440 made available today, July 20th, at the city clerk's office for SACO residents 1233 01:46:55,199 --> 01:47:03,119 who wish to seek office in the November 3rd, 2026 election. These elected 1234 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:09,520 officials seats up this year are mayor, city counselor for ws 2, 3, and 7, 1235 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:12,800 school board for wards 2, 4, and six. All seats are for a three-year term with 1236 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:16,239 the exception of the ward three counselor seat, which will be for a 1237 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:20,119 one-year term to fill out the remainder of the term due to vacancy. 1238 01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:29,119 200 registered voters in the city need to sign nomination papers for mayor. 35 1239 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:33,360 registered voters in each respective ward for the city councelor and school 1240 01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:38,080 board members. Nomination papers must be returned to the city clerk's office 300 1241 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:43,679 Main Street no later than 12:00 p.m. on Friday, August 28th, 2026. 1242 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:48,080 Housing action plan feedback period is now open. SACO's draft housing action 1243 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:51,920 plan is available for review and we're opening a two-week public comment period 1244 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:58,040 before submitting the plan to city council for adoption. To review the 1245 01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:58,040 plan, visit our website.org/housing. 1246 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:04,880 Submit your feedback through the website form by July 29th. 1247 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:09,199 Safety improvements on Beach Street and Ferry Road on the Beach Street and Old 1248 01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:12,880 Orchard Road intersection. Sako Public Works will be realigning the Beach 1249 01:48:10,719 --> 01:48:17,040 Street crosswalk at the intersection of Beach Street and Old Orchard Road 1250 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:21,600 beginning Monday, July 20th. Work is expected to be completed by July 23. 1251 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:25,840 While construction is underway, flaggers will manage alternating one-way traffic 1252 01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:30,159 through the intersection. Ferry Road and Bay View Road intersection. New stop 1253 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:35,040 signs will be installed today, Monday, July 20th. No traffic impacts are 1254 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:39,119 expected during the sign installation, though crews will be working in the area 1255 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:42,480 to complete the project. We ask residents and visitors to be mindful of 1256 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:46,639 this new traffic pattern and remind drivers that they must stop for 1257 01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:51,040 pedestrians in any marked crosswalk throughout SACO. Saco Fire Department 1258 01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:54,800 launches community connected connect program. Community Connect gives you the 1259 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:59,119 opportunity to create a household profile that can be accessed by SACO 1260 01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:03,440 Fire Department personnel only during an emergency response. By sharing details 1261 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:07,600 ahead of time, responders can arrive better prepared to meet your family's 1262 01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:11,760 specific needs. Participation is completely voluntary and you decide what 1263 01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:15,360 information you'd like to share. We encourage all sucker residents to take a 1264 01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:20,239 few moments to create a free community connect profile. For more information or 1265 01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:23,880 to register, visit communityconnect.io io info/me.saco 1266 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:30,159 Jubilee Island music series underway. Saco parks and recck department hosts 1267 01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:34,560 local musicians for Sunday concerts at Jubilee Park, a small peaceful landing 1268 01:49:32,239 --> 01:49:38,800 on the Sako River. Bring a blanket or chair, cross the covered bridge on Water 1269 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:44,159 Street, and join us. Concerts take place from 5:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. every Sunday 1270 01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:50,159 from July 19 to August 9. The upcoming lineup includes August 2nd, Maine 1271 01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:54,679 Cats Band and August 9, Jeff Pellerin. Shows are weather dependent. Check 1272 01:49:51,679 --> 01:49:54,679 suckomain.org/cal 1273 01:49:54,800 --> 01:50:03,119 front slashcal for any cancellation or rain dates. Harborfest Grand M Marshall 1274 01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:06,480 announced, "We're pleased to share that Jeda Martell has been named Grand 1275 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:09,840 Marshall for this summer's Camp Ellis Harbor Fest. Jedha will be honored 1276 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:13,199 during a special ceremony at the festival in recognition of her decades 1277 01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:18,800 of commitment to the Camp Ellis community. Born in Baford in 1945, Jedha 1278 01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:23,040 moved to Lower Beach Road at age 2 and has been deeply connected to Camp Ellis 1279 01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:26,960 ever since. Jeda's dedication to the community has helped keep Harborfest 1280 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:30,560 alive throughout the decades. After attending a blessing of the fleet 1281 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:36,320 ceremony in Portland, she envisioned a similar local celebration to honor Camp 1282 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:40,960 Ellis's fishing heritage. Now 81, Jedha has attended every harbor fest since the 1283 01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:45,440 events revival in 2023 by the city of Saco volunteers and Save Our Shores Soo 1284 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:49,520 Bay. We'll meet you at the pier on August 8th for fireworks and August 9 1285 01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:53,280 for the festival from 10:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. We look forward to seeing you for 1286 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:56,280 the celebration of our working waterfronts. 1287 01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:02,320 Parks and Recreational Professional Day was July 17th and we're proud to 1288 01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:05,679 celebrate the dedicated staff of SOS Parks and Recreation Department. Thank 1289 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:08,960 you to the entire parks and recck team for the outstanding work you do, the 1290 01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:15,040 opportunities you create for our community. Upcoming council meetings are 1291 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:18,320 August 3, August 17, and September 14. The reports. 1292 01:51:16,719 --> 01:51:21,719 Thank you. Any questions or comments for the city administrator? 1293 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:29,679 Okay, not seeing any. Moving on to item 12, council discussion and comment. Any 1294 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:33,000 councilors wishing to share? Council Edwards. 1295 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:41,440 I've been thinking about whether I should make this comment or not, but I 1296 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:48,239 personally I feel I I want to. Um I think many SACO residents as well as 1297 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:55,679 Bford residents were shocked and and discouraged and saddened by the tragic 1298 01:51:51,119 --> 01:52:05,599 killing of Joanne Sebastian Guerrero. I know that our city SACO is um 1299 01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:10,760 is it trying to protect our citizens. Our police 1300 01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:10,760 are not 1301 01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:24,239 actively searching for members of this community. Um, I would ask that despite 1302 01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:32,639 or despite one's particular politics, we can all agree that any 1303 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:39,280 death, whether it's by accident or by fiat, it's a loss of life from our 1304 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:45,360 community. I live in the hope that one day we will be closer to what we say at 1305 01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:52,239 the end of the pledge that we say every week, every time we're in here, that we 1306 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:58,320 become closer to being indivisible with justice and liberty for all. 1307 01:52:56,480 --> 01:53:01,320 » Thank you. Any other questions or comments? 1308 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:09,599 Okay, moving on to item 13 that is executive session. 1309 01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:14,080 Is there a motion? Councelor Parks. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Be ordered that 1310 01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:20,800 the city council enter into executive session pursuant to MRSA title 1, 1311 01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:25,840 chapter 13, subchapter 1, subsection 4056E, 1312 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:30,400 consultation between the municipality and its attorney concerning the 1313 01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:36,960 council's legal rights and duties relating to data centers and an 1314 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:40,080 application by Tower Co. LLC. >> Thank you. Motion has been made by 1315 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:42,880 councelor Parks. Is there a second? Second. 1316 01:53:40,719 --> 01:53:44,880 » Second by councelor Gail. Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. 1317 01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:46,239 » Yes. >> Councelor Parks. 1318 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,440 » Yes. >> Councelor Anin. 1319 01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:48,560 » Yes. >> Councelor Gail. 1320 01:53:48,239 --> 01:53:49,679 » Yes. >> Councelor Huitt. 1321 01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:51,040 » Yes. >> Councelor Johnston. 1322 01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:56,480 » Yes. >> Motion to enter into executive session 1323 01:53:53,199 --> 01:54:00,360 passes 6 at 8:15 and we will be in the city administrator's office. 1324 02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:47,279 All right, everyone. Welcome back. Is there a motion to exit executive 1325 02:44:45,840 --> 02:44:51,600 session? >> So moved. 1326 02:44:49,359 --> 02:44:55,760 » Councelor Onen. Thank you. Second. 1327 02:44:53,840 --> 02:44:58,319 » Second by councelor Edwards. >> Roll call vote. Councelor Edwards. 1328 02:44:57,920 --> 02:44:59,600 » Yes. >> Councelor Parks. 1329 02:44:59,279 --> 02:45:01,760 » Yes. >> Councelor Anin. Yes. Councelor Gail. 1330 02:45:01,439 --> 02:45:03,600 Yes. >> Councelor Hwitt. Yes. 1331 02:45:02,800 --> 02:45:06,399 » Councelor Johnston. >> Yes. 1332 02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:10,240 » Motion to exit executive session passes 6 at 9:06. 1333 02:45:08,880 --> 02:45:14,240 » Is there a report? >> No report, Madame Mayor. 1334 02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:18,960 » Thank you. All right. Moving on to item 15. That is adjournment. Is there a 1335 02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:21,600 motion to adjurnn? >> So moved. 1336 02:45:20,000 --> 02:45:22,880 » Motion made by councelor Edwards. Is there a second? 1337 02:45:22,399 --> 02:45:26,240 » Second. >> Second by councelor Huwitt. Roll call 1338 02:45:24,960 --> 02:45:27,680 vote. Councelor Edwards. >> Yes. 1339 02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,880 » Councelor Parks. >> Yes. 1340 02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:30,160 » Councelor Anen, >> yes. 1341 02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:32,080 » Councelor Gail, yes. >> Councelor Hwitt, yes. 1342 02:45:31,200 --> 02:45:34,960 » Councelor Johnston, >> yes. 1343 02:45:32,399 --> 02:45:39,160 » Motion to adjourn passes at 9:06. And thank you everyone and have a great 1344 02:45:36,160 --> 02:45:39,160 night.