1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:09,120 Okay. Call this meeting to order. Please call the roll. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Council Gary here. >> Here. Council woman Sanchez 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,920 » here. >> Councilwoman 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:21,080 » here. Council president >> here. Please rise the flag. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:29,439 I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 6 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:35,079 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 7 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:35,079 justice for all. 8 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:43,120 » Notice this meeting has been sent to all council members and all the newspapers 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:50,239 in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act chapter 251 10 00:00:46,879 --> 00:00:53,199 public 1975. Public is hereby advised that any 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,840 statements made during the meeting of the township council town saddlebrook 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:02,640 may not be privileged or protected and that persons or entities who take issue 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,040 with such comments or are offended by see may and have to pass so legal right 14 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:09,920 to be redressed through the courts. Any member of the public who addresses the 15 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:13,760 council speaks for themselves and not for the council. 16 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:18,080 Notice is hereby given that beginning January 1st, 2026, the complete text of 17 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:22,320 all legal notices required to be published in the township of Swork shall 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:27,840 be obtained or viewed on the saddle websitej. 19 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:32,079 us. In addition, New Jersey Secretary of State will be establishing a legal 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,799 notice hyperlink page allowing members of the public to find hyperlinks. For 21 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:40,560 every municipality on or about March 1st, a hyperlink to the Secretary of 22 00:01:39,119 --> 00:01:45,840 State's web page will be published on the municipal web page as soon as 23 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:48,000 available. Entertain a motion to open the meeting 24 00:01:47,119 --> 00:01:51,360 to the public. >> Motion second. 25 00:01:50,479 --> 00:01:55,119 » All in favor? >> I the meeting is now open to the public. 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:02:01,680 As I said before, because of the issue with the work session uh extending uh 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:08,920 past our normal time, we will give everybody uh 5 minutes uh for comments. 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,920 Please don't use it. 29 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:17,720 » Is this a workshop or this is a regular meeting? Okay. 30 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Good evening. Our biggest cand so person you just mentioned five 31 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:40,239 minutes. Yes. All right. I'm going to try to use that. Um first and foremost I 32 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:46,400 would like to address some comments of an employee last month. 33 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Uh my understanding is that when the public pays your salary when you are an 34 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:58,160 employee you cannot come to this you even as a resident you cannot come and 35 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:03,760 criticize and attack somebody that's why this is the right notice and 36 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:10,000 that's what I when I believe that the attorney could put a stop to this 37 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:15,760 because I'm a grown up man and I'm not going to come out with nothing but uh it 38 00:03:12,239 --> 00:03:21,680 will open the town for litigation. So in the future I wouldn't like to see an 39 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:26,080 employee of that town addressing any political questions or anything into the 40 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:35,120 attack because last month one of the employees got here and no one is coming. 41 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:38,959 So that's just a thing. Um, another comment. I'm just looking into the 42 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:44,080 agenda. Um, 43 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:48,400 I see the graffiti orders. I see the son code ordinance. 44 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:54,959 Um, I believe that is of potential 45 00:03:52,400 --> 00:04:01,920 litigation. My question to the public is I don't 46 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:06,080 know if we are being proactive or reactive 47 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:11,840 because when it came to political science school political science they 48 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:17,440 put a lot of restrictions the size the time where to put it when to put it how 49 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:24,160 to put it penalties but then we miss the biggest picture which is 50 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:31,919 actually to protect the town on how it looks. on how we wanted to um for months 51 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:38,560 uh this particular ordinance has been tabled over and over again. I guess it's 52 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:43,280 my guess I don't have uh access to privilege uh information but I can see 53 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:49,600 it for that uh is coming legal challenges 54 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:55,919 on the future I guess. So sometimes when you 55 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:01,280 create something try to see the entire picture not just something so small like 56 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:07,199 political science and actually I'm here for more important 57 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,919 things. First I would like to talk to the 58 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:17,120 public. As I'm knocking door to door 59 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,120 a lot of people ask me where is Roseline? 60 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:30,479 Roseline. Roseline is in the back of Milan Avenue by the old cemetery. 61 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:37,440 They just finished building 60 low income housing units. 62 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:43,680 When I was council president, I actually 63 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:49,000 have in mind that to be a football field or a soccer field for warm-ups or a 64 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 playground. 65 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:59,080 Sometime in the last few years has been donated 66 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:59,080 to a company for $1. 67 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:07,039 Those kids that will be coming to that low income housing project that have two 68 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:12,639 and threebedroom apartments as well as onebedroom apartment will bring kids 69 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:19,199 those kids will be going to lon school have the town sit down together with the 70 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:25,360 world members maybe to try to address some of the complexes questions that 71 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:31,039 will be coming in the near future. Um 72 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:36,319 when veterans was going to go for back in my time when I was council president 73 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:41,360 I believe that more than 300 units were going to come into where we know now 74 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:46,880 veterans feel. We negotiate with the develop with the 75 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:54,160 owner that instead of developing 500 units we will buy it and we will build 76 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:59,039 what we know now as veterans feel. But what I seen yesterday when I drove by 60 77 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:03,840 units, my head started spinning off. If we can 78 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:10,479 accommodate, if we have the infrastructure, emergency services, if 79 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:16,319 everything has been a square away, good questions 80 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:21,759 for $1. I don't know if he went out to if he just pick and choose. I don't know 81 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:28,479 what what it cost. And finally, I just got a uh one last 82 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:32,240 subject. Uh 83 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:40,240 I believe that it looks awful the way Lyster looks now. One of the few streets 84 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:44,000 I believe to bring down Nick, but having so many signs not working, no parking, I 85 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:48,400 don't know if that is something to protect the residents or it was to 86 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:52,720 penalize for bringing up the subject. is the only town in Bergen County, I think, 87 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:57,919 or the state of New Jersey that got more signs than than residents. 88 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:02,319 And uh when I speak about market history, 89 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:08,560 it is because I attend most of those meetings, planning board, council, all 90 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:13,919 kind of meetings and I still try to work around and I 91 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:18,240 don't know why sometimes the attorney jump off his chair to ask some of these 92 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:22,800 questions, but I'm very professional trying to hear from the land officials 93 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:30,800 that are the main on maybe they got the right to do so when they saw sold 60 94 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:34,719 units for $26,000 a piece. >> Mr. Rodriguez, in 5 minutes, your 5 95 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:41,919 minutes has expired. >> Okay. Can I just go for this? Sure. 96 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:46,080 » Uh there's another project at Eno Park. It's smaller, just one acre. We sold one 97 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,440 acre and a half and they are selling it for $5.5 million and we sold ours for 98 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:55,480 $1.6 million. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 99 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:07,279 Good evening, Thomas family 128. Okay, so first things first, just some 100 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,720 updates to provide to Mayor Council tonight. 101 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:14,560 I mentioned this, I think briefly last month um from community partnership. 102 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:18,480 together our sour community connections newsletter our latest issue and you know 103 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:21,920 came out for the month of August um just highlighting all the great 104 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:26,720 collaborations and partnerships from the different uh organizations in in town 105 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:31,519 and our community calendar is in here which again anybody wants to add events 106 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,360 to the community calendar you can add it on the town website there's a form you 107 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,800 fill out to have it considered being added so that's in here just a bunch of 108 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,640 community partnership mayor's youth group updates our recycling schedule And 109 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:48,880 we have this available in digital and in print from the community partnership. Um 110 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:54,720 we have copies right in this room here in the rec center and the town offices 111 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:58,320 and and the library and a whole bunch of other buildings 112 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,760 and the list goes on and on and really trying to bring these newslets to 113 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:06,240 different businesses and different organizations throughout the town senior 114 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,360 center as well. So please consider reading it and finding out what's going 115 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,680 on in town. really the community partnership is striving to just bring 116 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:17,680 bring the information, you know, about these collaborations, about the events 117 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:22,480 going on to the people in our community. So, please check that out. Um, 118 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,959 going to piggy back off the mayor's youth group. Now, we had a summer fun 119 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:31,519 outing on July the 24th. We went to Vansstone Park um in Switch, which which 120 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:35,519 was very which was a great day. The weather was perfect. Kids had a great 121 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:40,320 time. I do want to thank the mayor and also Christine, mayor of the secretary 122 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:44,079 for helping to put this together in addition to all the parents who chaper 123 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:49,440 owned the trip and and helped with manpower and and you know, of course 124 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:53,760 supervision and also want to thank our former President Tyler Posie for taking 125 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:58,480 pictures and really helped us out um with Van Salon as well. So it was a 126 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:03,120 great day. Looking ahead, we're going to be uh volunteering bringing food and 127 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:08,640 beverages to the seniors and anyone else in need at the uh township picnic on 128 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:12,399 August the 29th or the 30th if it rains. So, we hope to see everybody out and of 129 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:17,279 course we'll attend the mayor's walk as well. So, and also we look forward to 130 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:22,079 all the great events coming up that we participate in the town throughout the 131 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:26,880 fall and into the holiday season. So it would again it's always open to any 132 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:32,959 South Brook youth who lives in town from grades 4 through 12 as of September 133 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:37,040 2026. So that's all I got on that. Thank you very much. 134 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Thank you, Thomas, and and thanks for all the volunteerism that you uh you do 135 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,480 through throughout the year. 136 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:56,480 518, is there any update on the uh I seen on 137 00:11:54,560 --> 00:12:00,800 the paper you were going to talk about it. Is there any update on what's going 138 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:07,440 on with street? We we did have as as you're aware we did 139 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:11,120 have an extensive um close session meeting it was regarding 140 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:16,720 personnel but also a lot of that had to do with 141 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:20,720 um it is a legal issue. Um, I'm going to defer to the You know what? If you want 142 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,639 to you you've got time. I don't want to take up your time. If once you're 143 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:28,639 finished, so this way we're not taking up your time. You can [clears throat] 144 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:33,200 talk and give comments about anything you want, you know, during your time and 145 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:36,160 then we'll respond. Then we'll be responsible. 146 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:41,120 » You're saying it's a legal issue. What's the legal issue? 147 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,959 potential litigation is what we can uh >> So basically what you're telling me is 148 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:49,000 the owner of the building is now threatening to sue. 149 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:57,440 Okay, that's the only legal issue that could be there. 150 00:12:54,560 --> 00:13:01,760 And if that's the case, follow the suit. Are you all going to 151 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:06,399 fold? I don't think so. 152 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:11,120 Is the council and the mayor going to stick up for the president 153 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:16,160 or a guy that lives in Scarboro, New York? Why about bringing a company in 154 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:21,040 and changed it and does whatever he wants? 155 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Because if the council doesn't stick with the people, that's your right. 156 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:31,360 But then I'm going to do anything I can to get the ones that vote against this 157 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:36,480 happen. And I know there's only 13 houses on the 158 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:44,480 block. 14,000 on a block, but I know a lot of people in town and people 159 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:49,760 come first before outsiders. And if I find out any of our legal 160 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:55,440 authority in this town votes against us, he speaks up to the building, 161 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:59,560 there's going to be more trouble legally, but there'll be trouble. 162 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:09,800 I heard every one of you stick up for us at the last meeting and 163 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,800 I'm hoping you stick up for us again. 164 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:20,800 And our township attorney works for us, not for anybody else. We pay your salary 165 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:28,959 as taxpayers. So I hope you do a good job for us. Thank you. And the mayor, I 166 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:33,360 know the mayor is want to raise here. is for our people. So, and I know most 167 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:40,560 of you are, but as soon as people hear the word lawsuit or legal trouble, 168 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:45,839 everybody kind of calls it to all. And I hope that doesn't happen. 169 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:52,000 Now, if we are sued and people change their votes, 170 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:56,880 don't hide from us who the people are. Let us know who changes their votes. 171 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,959 I don't want to hear that. This is secret. It's got to be behind. It's not 172 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:06,160 open to the public because we have a right to know as taxpayers in the town. 173 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,639 Thank you. >> Thank you very much, 174 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:14,000 Mr. Taylor. >> No, I'm good. Thank you. 175 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:17,880 » Okay. I saw you twitching back there as well, ma'am. 176 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:37,199 Monastery 25. I'm back again. Um, good evening and thank you for the 177 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:41,519 opportunity to speak. I want to begin by clarifying that I am not questioning the 178 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:46,079 merits of the many services and programs Saddleberg provides to seniors. Nor am I 179 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:50,399 suggesting that Saddle Brook is anything other than a good and caring community. 180 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,320 My question is much narrower as it centers on the decision made to 181 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:59,920 discontin the saddle senior bus processes used during evaluation. I 182 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:05,199 understand the reasons given for lower ridership specifically medical ride and 183 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:10,240 the age of bus. What I'm trying to understand and wrap my head around is 184 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:15,279 what analysis was done with those facts before the decision was made. First, 185 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:20,880 it's important to put medical rights in context. when Southwork senior bus was 186 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:26,720 reduced to four days. I don't know when that was. Um I'm kind of new to the 187 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:31,519 service. Uh but it was narrowed down to uh 4 days a week, Tuesday and Thursday 188 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:36,959 morning for earmarked for shopping trips which left Wednesday and Friday 9 to 3 189 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:41,680 for medical appointments while also putting in the bingo uh coordinating for 190 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:47,759 bingo transportation on those days. So low usage has a direct correlation with 191 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:54,160 the availability of the actual service. Um and when the analysis was done, what 192 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,320 facts were reviewed before the decision was made? 193 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:03,600 For example, was the reason for low ridership examined? For example, as I 194 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:07,520 just gave about it only being available limited days, was they considered 195 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:12,640 whether seniors knew the service was available? I spoke about this last month 196 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:17,679 um regarding important outreach um 197 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:21,360 was the month given directions from the 3-month period that was given as an 198 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:25,360 example of the low ridership for medical appointments. I'm just curious if that 199 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:30,320 was an accurate representation of the service as a whole and were all the 200 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:34,880 buses uses considered like shopping and recreation rather than just medical 201 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:40,400 trips were available grants or other funding options for aging vehicle or 202 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:45,919 alternatives and stuff aside from fully eliminating it um were all for all 203 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,720 things considered and where seniors in South Brook survey or asked what 204 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,080 transportation they could actually use. I'm not assuming these questions were 205 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,919 not considered. I'm just asking whether they were part of the evaluation. And I 206 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:04,080 also want to make sure that we're all working from the same ground level 207 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:08,559 factual information. Um at the June meeting it was said that there was only 208 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:13,280 one bag of groceries on the Saddle Brook senior bus. I used that service and I 209 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:18,320 personally never saw this signing. I was told I could have only one bag. And it 210 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:22,720 was also stated that every work had a transportation vehicle that was built to 211 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:28,240 share accessible lifts, but they all had an aid. I had that not been my 212 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:33,919 experience. So in order to to get accurate information to verify what I 213 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:38,559 thought in the case, the county um through an open request said that 20% of 214 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,000 its vehicles have less and that they don't provide any use. And again, these 215 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:47,440 details, I just want to make sure they're all, you know, working from the 216 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:50,880 same level of facts. Um, and more importantly, at the July meeting, I 217 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,799 spoke about something very important that the senior bus provided beyond 218 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:59,280 transportation, and that is a connection to our community. Uh, last year, the 219 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:03,120 senior bus brought seniors to Natasha picnic, and I know there's also a 220 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:07,600 struggle for residents that we had last year. This year's show, I think it's 221 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:12,240 great. I know parking is tight over at the park. Um but for a senior who cannot 222 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,720 get to the municipal parking lot, they can't use the shuttle. Um and the senior 223 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:21,679 bus also did provide transportation to the evening events for senior events 224 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:26,240 like the Halloween party at the BFW. And when I asked about seniors attending 225 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:30,000 evening events like council meetings or recreation, the response is that other 226 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:34,559 towns don't provide transportation at night. And every town makes it own 227 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:39,520 different choices based on the needs of its resident. So the question really is 228 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:44,080 simply what is doing to meet the transportation needs of its own citizens 229 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:48,640 so they can age in place and remain active participants in the community 230 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:52,320 where they lived. Finally, as a new writer to this out group bus, I'm trying 231 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,640 to understand the history of the service. What led to its establishment? 232 00:19:55,120 --> 00:20:00,960 What changed when the hours were reduced? What led to its expansion at 233 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:07,520 one point? And these questions are posed in order to reconcile for myself how 234 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:12,720 public services in book is evaluated, how all the facts are made, and how 235 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:17,039 decisions are reached. I believe we all share the same goal, making good 236 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:23,280 decisions for the township and ensuring that our seniors needs are understood. 237 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Everyone else wish 238 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,160 to address the council. 239 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:36,080 See now, entertain a motion to close the public. 240 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:40,880 » Second. All in favor? >> I meeting is now close to the public. 241 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:46,559 Um, so we're going to kind of do a hybrid 242 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:50,720 meeting here. Uh, we'll do mayor's mayor's comments, mayor's updates, and 243 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,720 we'll go down. We'll ask the engineer and council administrator, and then 244 00:20:52,159 --> 00:21:00,159 we'll go to council council comments. But certainly, we want to make sure that 245 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:06,159 we address Weiss during our our comments. 246 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:11,760 » Mayor, you don't want me to address my >> uh, not right now. Oh, the mayor can 247 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Okay, you know what, John? Before the mayor goes, from a legal perspective, I 248 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:26,799 know we had a close session. Um so if you can just do some explanation 249 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:33,840 um as to what uh what the situation is why we're in close session and uh what 250 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:38,720 indicate whatever you can without violating the uh the close session uh 251 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,039 procedures. >> Yes. Well well first of all uh without 252 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:48,559 progress has been made because the ordinance has been finalized. Uh I 253 00:21:45,919 --> 00:21:51,840 believe it's my understanding that uh the revisions that were made are 254 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,320 acceptable. However, the uh adjacent property owner 255 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:03,520 in my opinion has given us a heads up that any action we take may be 256 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:08,880 challenged and contrary to the concerns that as the township attorney from my 257 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:15,039 perspective, we wouldn't want litigation and perhaps the public should understand 258 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:19,520 that litigation generates legal fees. That's how we earn a living. Whether we 259 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:24,480 win or lose, we get paid. However, that being said, as an attorney, and I'm sure 260 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:28,480 I speak for most attorneys, when we get a litigation, we want to win. We do not 261 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,840 want to lose. So why I feel that getting notice of the 262 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:37,840 fact that it may be challenged is actually benefit to us because now we 263 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:44,400 need to know that we have all our ducks in order that all the evidence to 264 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:50,720 substantiate the need for uh permitted parking only for residents 265 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:58,080 24/7 every day of the week meets the legal requirements to impose that are in 266 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:03,120 order. And so we are going to be making sure we have all that evidence in place 267 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:09,039 so that if the governing body go moves ahead with the ordinance adoption that 268 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:13,200 if it is challenged it's successful. It's my job to your point to protect the 269 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,679 public interest. It doesn't serve the public interest to not give the guidance 270 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:21,520 necessary that where the governing body could take action they were going to 271 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:26,640 incur significant legal cost and exposure and by the way lose the case. 272 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,960 that would be not doing my job. So my job is to put the municipality in the 273 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:35,600 best position to defend its actions. And to do that, we need to do a little more 274 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,799 homework in terms of gathering the evidence to support our actions. 275 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,960 » Thank you, Mayor. 276 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:52,640 » Thank you, Council President. Uh, I just want to before I start with my uh 277 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:57,840 comments, I I just want to mention uh something that that uh Mr. Rodriguez 278 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:05,440 brought up um specifically. He mentioned during his 279 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:11,520 term that he wanted Rosal Lane, the property that the town owned where the 280 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:17,919 affordable housing is was built, uh he said he wanted to use it for recreation 281 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:23,840 or for a park or field or something like that when in fact during his term and I 282 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:30,320 think Mr. Saluca and uh Mrs. major would would be able to 283 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:36,080 uh correct me if I'm wrong, but I I believe it was during that time that 284 00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:39,840 that property was designated for affordable housing on the master plan. 285 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,520 So, >> you are correct. 286 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:47,120 » Yeah. >> Okay. So, yeah, that and he was part of 287 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:53,679 the council then and I I don't know how we voted, but I I imagine if we looked, 288 00:24:50,320 --> 00:25:00,559 he probably voted yes. uh because we needed we needed to have 289 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:07,279 affordable housing. So that's why and uh I know Jimmy not now but maybe you can 290 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:12,080 address it because you're more familiar with you know you've been working with 291 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:17,600 our our uh affordable housing attorney and so you know all the particulars 292 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:22,400 about what the price was and what kind of rent or where what kind of 293 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:28,919 compensation the town's going to get from them. So maybe you can address that 294 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,919 later. Um, 295 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:36,799 and Mrs. Monoseri, you know what? Honestly, you're you're a very 296 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:44,320 intelligent person. You're asking a lot of really good questions. I mean, I I 297 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:50,880 can't formulate a response. I I would like to take what you said and and work 298 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:56,799 on it and write down the answers to some of that stuff. I I know you've asked for 299 00:25:52,799 --> 00:26:02,320 some things, but um yeah, I I can't formulate a good response, not nearly as 300 00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:09,039 good as your question and you know what you brought up. So, you know, let me 301 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:13,760 just say this. Um I I believe we made the right choice. 302 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:20,400 You know, no one was we weren't looking to just willy-nilly just decide to 303 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:25,679 eliminate the bus. And I believe that right now the residents of town have a 304 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:30,000 better service. Yeah, I know what you're saying. It's nice to know who the bus 305 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:35,120 driver is and get the same bus driver and uh and really it had nothing to do 306 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:41,120 with the bus driver. It wasn't the bus driver. You know, we feel I know I speak 307 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:46,240 for the council that a better service came along and it and it's for free. So, 308 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:52,400 you know, I I don't know. You mentioned about the uh that not all the buses have 309 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:56,159 aids and not all of them have lifts. You know, honestly, I don't know that. You 310 00:26:53,679 --> 00:27:02,000 know, you called and you're you're probably right, but uh you know, I 311 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:07,200 believe if you need a lift and they know it, they're going to send the bus with 312 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:12,960 the lift. So, I don't know. I I we really believe that 313 00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:20,240 right now. And and here's one thing. Uh the business administrator checked 314 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:27,360 there's right now there's almost 300 residents that are signed up to use that 315 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:32,159 bus. 300 I mean we never had even close to that. Not even close to that 316 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:39,360 you know amount of people that were using the bus. I mean maybe 300 rides 317 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:44,320 maybe 10 15 people that you know that use it 300 times a year. Maybe, maybe. I 318 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:50,000 I I don't even know. And you know, you'd have to check the records if we even 319 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:56,399 have the records. So, um you I I I wish I could I think we 320 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:01,360 need to sit down and just talk and you know, in person and and and you know, 321 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:06,960 maybe with me and the business administrator and uh yourself and and 322 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,880 you know, trying to resolve this cuz you know what? We're trying our best. We 323 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:16,000 really are. And and we care about the we care about the people. We care about our 324 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:21,919 seniors so much. We really do. And we got a good senior program. Uh a good 325 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:26,880 senior. The center is is really really flourishing right now. We're doing 326 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:31,600 great. We have the lunch program which they love. I mean, so I think we're 327 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:36,080 doing well. We can always do better, but you know, I'd like to hear your ideas. 328 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:40,000 But as far as the the bus, I you know, I I don't know. I I I just think it' be 329 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:44,640 we'd be better served to sit and just talk because 330 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:49,760 you know you have a lot you said a lot there and and you know some of the 331 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:53,279 things you know are require a lot of thought and and you know I might not 332 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,440 even be the right person you know cuz I I don't you know I don't run a bus 333 00:28:55,679 --> 00:29:01,520 company I I don't know the answer to some of the things that you were saying. 334 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:07,760 So anyway, uh but thank you. I I I do appreciate 335 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:12,320 you coming and voicing your concerns. So let me get into uh last month I talked 336 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:19,120 about the the budget. I'm going to repeat some things, but uh some news 337 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:26,320 some new stuff. Um we reconciled the tax bills. So we sent out earlier we had 338 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:31,360 sent out estimated tax bills. uh by the end of September, we're going to be 339 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:35,360 sending out the the permanent bill. Um so it'll be going out by the end of 340 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:41,679 September. The tax rate ended up coming out to be 2.239%. 341 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:47,440 I misspoke last month. I said estimated was 2.337, 342 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:53,600 but it was actually 2.237. So I I apologize for that. But uh from 343 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:58,880 last year to this year, we went up 6 thous0 of a point. So we're doing a 344 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:05,440 really good job controlling our spending. Most of the increase is due to 345 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:10,880 fixed non-discretionary cost. On the municipal side, the tax increase will be 346 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:17,520 $188 on the average house, which is valued at 57,000. 347 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:22,159 Um I also mentioned this last last month, but it's very important. There's 348 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:26,320 there's three programs, the senior tax free, the state of New Jersey, and 349 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:32,320 Yanker. They have one application for all three uh property tax initiatives. 350 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:38,480 The application must be submitted by November 2nd, 2026. The purpose of the 351 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:44,799 tax reason in state, New Jersey is to provide relief to senior homeowners 65 352 00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:49,279 and older. The anchor provides tax rebates for adult homeowners and renters 353 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:55,200 of all ages. adult homeowners of all ages. So, check 354 00:30:52,640 --> 00:31:00,640 New Jersey Tax Release. There's a portal on nj.gov for the application and 355 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,240 eligibility requirements and income limits. 356 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,720 It's so important because a lot of people are eligible. They just don't 357 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:13,520 know about it. Every year I I I run into a few people that that would have, you 358 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:18,000 know, would have been able to get these these rebates and would have been had 359 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,480 had the tax frozen if they just knew about it. So, you know, we try to get it 360 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:26,720 out there as much as we can. I don't want to keep repeating it because I want 361 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:32,799 everybody out there to take advantage of of what uh of these programs. So, 362 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:38,960 ordinances. Tonight we have an amendment to the zoning ordinance second reading 363 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:45,200 which is about the signs uh the size of signs of building signs. The planning 364 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:51,760 board reviewed uh this ordinance and gave us feedback. So they're in favor of 365 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:56,399 of the ordinance. Um we're also amending the graffiti ordinance. That's going to 366 00:31:53,919 --> 00:32:02,799 be a first reading. Um so events that happened since July's 367 00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:09,600 meeting. We had police promotions uh Thursday, July the the 30th. Uh Mark 368 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:13,360 Buch, who's here tonight, and uh Rebecca Rivero were promoted to captain. 369 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:20,399 Congratulations. Uh Irving Gutterz was promoted to 370 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:26,720 lieutenant and Adam Tragarios was promoted to sergeant. National Night Out 371 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:31,360 was uh Tuesday, August the 4th here at the municipal complex parking lot from 372 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:37,440 6:00 to 9:00. I want to thank all of you that joined us. Had an amazing turnout, 373 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:41,120 fantastic evening, great food and fun. I want to thank our police department, the 374 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:46,000 fire department, and ambulance corps. Also to our community partners and 375 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:52,240 volunteers. Uh it's very inspiring to see the community come together and 376 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:57,519 connect. Uh, it reminds me, it reminds all of us really that we have a strong 377 00:32:54,399 --> 00:33:01,039 community and we're there to thank our thanks. We have a strong and safe 378 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:06,399 community thanks to our first responders. 379 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Um, the ambulance car show, Ambulance Corp car show was Sunday, August the 9th 380 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,679 from 9 to 3 here at the municipal complex parking lot. Uh, the ambulance 381 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:20,640 corp worked along with American cruisers. Um, all proceeds were donated 382 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:26,960 to this out of the Volunteer Ambulance Corps. Um, I think they they uh there 383 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:33,600 was a check that they um presented the the the core with a check for $2,500. 384 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:38,559 So, it was a it was a nice nice uh time and it was bene beneficial for the 385 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:43,279 ambulance court. Um, Junior Police Academy was August 6th to the 14th here 386 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:49,440 at the municipal complex. The graduation ceremony was Friday, August 14th, 5:30 387 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:54,720 p.m. here at the gym at the rec center. It's a great program and uh most 388 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,519 importantly, it builds trust between the the cadetses and the and law 389 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:04,720 enforcement. The program also builds leadership and confidence in the 390 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:09,040 cadetses. The cadets learn the values of discipline and teamwork, and it's nice 391 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,119 to see how the kids step up to support one another. Um, it's really a great 392 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:17,040 program. Um, thank you to to the police 393 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:23,040 department. Um, upcoming events, the St. Phillips 394 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:26,480 67th annual festival. I don't have the date, but it starts, I believe, next 395 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,879 Thursday. Um, >> Wednesday. 396 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:36,240 » 26th to the 30th. >> The 26th to the 30th. Thank you. Um, the 397 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:42,399 town picnic is Saturday, August 29th, 12 to 4 at South River County Park. The 398 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:45,760 rain day is Sunday, August the 30th. It's residents only. Tickets are 399 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:52,399 available at the rec center during normal hours of operation, 7:30 a.m. to 400 00:34:48,879 --> 00:35:00,240 8:30 p.m. and uh Monday through Friday and then Saturday from uh 7:30 to 3:00 401 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:06,079 p.m. I believe. Uh tickets will also be available on the day of the picnic. Uh 402 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:12,720 the mayor's walk is also the day of the picnic, the morning of the picnic. 9:00 403 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:19,040 a.m. Um, same thing. Um, it's Saturday, August 29th and rain day Sunday, uh, 404 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:26,720 August 30th. Um, we we give out we walk around Auto 405 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:31,359 Pale Pond. There's free t-shirts given out and they're sponsored by Ferrer 406 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Spine and Rehabilitation. Uh, finally, we have the 911 monument 407 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:41,200 dedication ceremony. That's going to be Friday, September 11th, 5:30 here at the 408 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:46,240 municipal complex. Some uh other things, the town hall and 409 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:50,560 DPW personnel are off on Labor Day. That's Monday, September 7th. Section 410 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:56,400 one yard waist will be picked up on Friday, September 11th. Uh the splash 411 00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:03,680 plat Veterans Field is in operation, happy to say. Uh that entire project was 412 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:08,560 paid for with grant funds. Uh, one of our goals here has been to enhance our 413 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:12,960 parks and create a safe space for a community to come together. It's a great 414 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:18,079 place for the kids to cool off and seeing them personally going there and 415 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:23,599 seeing them laugh and have fun reminds me of why I wanted to be a public 416 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:29,280 servant. Um, it's really nice to see. If you have a chance, take a ride over 417 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:33,440 there. Um, we're working on right now. We're working on the best way to install 418 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,480 some kind of shade around that splash pl splash pad. It'll probably be done after 419 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:44,720 the season, but uh we do need something there so so the kids can get out of the 420 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:50,560 the sun and the water, especially the mountains. But thank you. 421 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,839 » Okay. Uh Mr. Engineer, can you just give us an update on what's going on 422 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,520 engineering wise in town? >> Thank you very much. 423 00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:03,280 » Okay, take care. >> Sure. Uh first thing we're awarding um 424 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,839 South Street Road improvements tonight to uh Frank Mashion. 425 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:15,359 Um that should be that work should be done this fall. It's CDBG funded. Um two 426 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:20,880 other projects that we should be seeing soon. Um, one is the Fifth Street Park, 427 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,720 the basketball court, and then the other one is the uh demo of the two houses 428 00:37:24,055 --> 00:37:32,000 [sighs] um along the river there. Uh, other than 429 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,000 that, that's that's pretty much it for now. 430 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:58,720 a new item on our hit list is the business administrator update. So 431 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:03,520 please, Mr. Holy. >> Yeah. Um at the uh meeting in September, 432 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:09,920 I'll be presenting the capital budget to the council. Um the reason it's coming a 433 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:15,520 little bit delayed is that we do have a sewer emergency on uh on Grand Terrace 434 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:20,079 and we're working along with engineer along with our auditor and attorney uh 435 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:25,200 on an emergency basis to conduct that work which is a uh which would be a 436 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:29,040 significant amount of money. So we will be I would have to revise the capital 437 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,800 budget to be presented to the council at the following meeting uh to include that 438 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,000 emergency work and there will be formal action uh to be considered for that. 439 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,000 It's going to require a sewer pipe to be lined 440 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:49,359 and um if there if the council wishes me to highlight some of the um the 441 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:54,160 agreement with Ingramman on Rosal Lane, I'm happy to do so. just to highlight 442 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,040 some of the key uh uh facts of that transaction. Happy to do so. 443 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:02,640 » I think that would be appropriate at this time since it was um possible 444 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:09,440 misinformation that was uh shown forth. >> Yeah. There uh the transaction which was 445 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:16,480 done in 2021 includes um uh it was a transaction for $1 with Ingram to do a 446 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:22,160 58 unit site 100% affordable housing um with the understanding that it's 6.28% 447 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:27,440 to 8% of the U revenues will be paid to the township on a quarterly basis. Uh 448 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:32,400 but the timeline is taxes are due. These types of transactions are are very 449 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:35,760 common um in the affordable housing umbrella throughout the state. This had 450 00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:42,400 to go to several state agencies to be approved. And this is very common if not 451 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:47,599 their uh more transactions include more funds to be given from the town local uh 452 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:53,359 affordable housing trust fund to support their project. Um they Ingram um went uh 453 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:57,440 themselves to get their own funding through other state agencies with you 454 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:02,960 know on that end of what they do. uh some towns in their uh in these type of 455 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:07,839 agreements um through the trust fund provide the developer cash [gasps] uh to 456 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,920 do so to pro uh to be able to support their project to build their project. 457 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Um, one thing to keep in mind with why these are are very common is that with 458 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:21,200 the affordable housing obligations to be able to get the credits like something 459 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:25,599 like this project 60 units, 60 affordable housing credits, you would 460 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:29,200 need a project triple or quadruple the size to be able to get those affordable 461 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:34,480 housing credits. So, there's no market rate units in there. If it was a mixed 462 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,920 commercial uh market rate uh uh development, you would have you would 463 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,760 need several hundred units to be able to get those type of credits, which is why 464 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:46,240 you see these type of transactions and buildings uh that are and transactions 465 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:51,440 that are common under this affordable housing umbrella and the various 466 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:56,720 agencies involved in this chair just to to follow up on our 467 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,200 administrative session and to further clarify. So basically it's a trade-off. 468 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,960 A town could give a developer tremendous amount of density, several hundred 469 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:09,920 units, some of which would be affordable housing. Or rather than do that, they 470 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:15,680 could have all affordable housing units on one single property, no larger units, 471 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,680 and then if they have the land, which unfortunately some towns don't, the 472 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,599 towns are willing to transfer the land versus, as the administrator said, 473 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:27,280 giving the developer a few million dollars in order to build those 474 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:32,160 affordable housing units. So in this case, whoever the individuals were at 475 00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:37,119 the time must have felt that it was a financial benefit to the community both 476 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:42,880 in limiting high density developments to meet the affordable housing obligations 477 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:49,200 and in addition to that to have the land transferred and get the 6.8% 478 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:53,920 payment each year versus giving that developer a few million dollars towards 479 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:58,160 the construction cost. And I'm sure that that was all discussed and the different 480 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,359 options were presented to the governing body and the governing body felt it was 481 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:07,040 in the best interest to go in this direction that they did. 482 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:11,920 » Thank you very much. >> Yeah, I think was my report. Thank you. 483 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:17,119 » Okay. Um I guess we'll start with comments. Mr. 484 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,520 » Um I just want to congratulate Kath. I wasn't here. I'm sorry. I was on 485 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:26,560 vacation. Best luck in your row to the other uh the other one individuals that 486 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:30,440 were promoted. Best of luck and uh healthy and uh 487 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,200 just a safe career. 488 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,359 » Thank you. >> And that's it. 489 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:48,160 » I too like to congratulate Ken Cap. You know you have our full support behind 490 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:55,359 the whole police force always and also congratulations to our junior academy 491 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:59,359 this morning Mr. Garrick. >> Uh good evening everyone. I guess I have 492 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:04,000 to congratulate you again Mark. So congratulations to you and the other 493 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:09,760 officers for doing a great job. So best of luck to you. Um I just want to speak 494 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:15,839 a little bit about the county bus. Um, this is a form of really a shared 495 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:21,760 service. They do a great job. Um, 10% of our property taxes go to the county. So, 496 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:26,960 if you're spending $10,000 on property taxes, about a,000 goes to the county. 497 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:30,960 Um, they also provide some ambulance coverage for us, which is greatly 498 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:36,640 appreciated. We also have a beautiful county park that's really close, right, 499 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:42,640 that we take advantage of. But in this time of challenging taxes, if we have a 500 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:46,640 redundancy of services, we have to take advantage of what's being offered from 501 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,720 the county. And we have hundreds of people taking advantage of that program. 502 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:56,079 And we're very fortunate to be able to do that and get a little bit back for 503 00:43:52,880 --> 00:44:02,319 the 10% of your property taxes that go to the county. So, I think it's a it's a 504 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:06,079 good thing. Do I like losing the bus service? In a perfect world, we have 505 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:11,520 that, too. but it's a redundancy of services here. So, I think that we have 506 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:17,119 no choice but to go with the county program and to allow them to provide 507 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:21,520 that service to us and it's working out. It really is. And if anybody has a 508 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:25,599 problem, let us know. We can reach out if there's a problem with scheduling and 509 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:29,520 so forth. Um, we said that we have one other resident here. So, we're trying to 510 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,920 help out and we're trying to save the taxpayers as much money as we can. you 511 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:38,880 know, we have to get as much back from the county as we can, and they do. They 512 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:43,200 they give us that uh ambulance core service during the day that we need, and 513 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:48,560 they also give us that county park, which is beautiful. So, that that's what 514 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:53,599 I'd like to say about that. Uh in regards to the township picnic on August 515 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:59,359 29th, I will be there. It starts at 12:00. Hopefully, I see many of friendly 516 00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:04,960 faces and our residents taking advantage of that and coming and saying hello and 517 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:08,880 being part of that great day. Um, hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer. 518 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:14,040 Uh, that's all I have at this time. Thank you. 519 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,040 » Thank you, Mr. Carr. 520 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:21,920 » Um, congratulations again to all the officers who were 521 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:29,839 promoted. Um, congratulations to the police academy cadetses. Um, 522 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:34,960 and I know the mayor said that he was going to look into a little bit about 523 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:39,920 um, what you have mentioned about the bus service. Um, one thing that was 524 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:45,680 mentioned was seniors attending the evening events. Um, I'm not sure how 525 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:51,200 many seniors need assistance attending the evening events, but um, I know you 526 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:54,240 said that the services don't run in the evening. So, I'm not sure if there's 527 00:45:52,640 --> 00:46:00,640 something that we might be able to look into in order to get these seniors who 528 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:06,960 are interested to these events, you know, that'd be wonderful. 529 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:13,839 Um, that's >> Thank you. Um, since again this is a 530 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:19,440 hybrid type of meeting, there's some bold business that was on to be 531 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:23,520 discussed at the work session. I just uh see the note here. The engineer from the 532 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:27,599 last time was to look at stop signs on barrier streets. I think we talked about 533 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,920 at least on the north end that I know about there's a number of streets, 534 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:36,480 intersecting streets where there's zero stop signs. 535 00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:41,920 Luckily, uh there hasn't been, at least as far as I know, there hasn't been a 536 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:46,880 lot of accidents, but you know, the next accident, the first accident is is, you 537 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,240 know, something we don't want to have. Uh certainly somebody who doesn't want 538 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:54,000 to be the first accident in in an intersection that's uncontrolled. Bob, 539 00:46:51,920 --> 00:47:01,680 if you had an opportunity to take a gander at uh the tree streets and um I 540 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:08,400 would think it would be the streets east of Farewell Parkway. 541 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:12,079 Uh before I go willy-nilly looking around town, I just need some clarity on 542 00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:17,920 what exactly you want me to look at or where. If it's one or two spots, tell me 543 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:21,920 the spots over town things >> before you go spending hours and 544 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,440 dollars. I don't think we should spend that much. We should take a 15-minute 545 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,160 ride on the south end to the east side of F Parkway, go up and down the tree 546 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:35,359 streets. There's no stop signs any place. Uh and there's intersecting 547 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:39,200 streets all over the place. And I think especially young drivers 548 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:43,520 are not going to know. They're just going to go through it and think, uh, 549 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:47,839 you know, there's no stop sign there. I might as well go through it. Just if you 550 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,440 want, you give me a call. I'll ride with you. It's going to take 15 minutes and 551 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:56,160 we'll hit about 50 streets >> through through the chair. 552 00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:00,880 » Maybe the police department can you know they're out there all the time. You can 553 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,800 assign them to make a list. >> General Poo. 554 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,920 » Yes, sir. >> Do you um 555 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:14,400 do you think you could help us out? You and uh Captain Joseph B. California. 556 00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:17,920 » Uh stop signs. >> What's that? 557 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:23,520 » Lack of stop signs. lack of stops on on the tree streets east of Fairon Parkway 558 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:28,160 especially what we noticed I think Todd brought this up at one time I believe 559 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:32,319 that there's there's seems to be no stops I didn't realize it until I 560 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:37,839 actually I'm just driving and I'm like that's the way I go so I'm not really 561 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:42,640 worried about it but after traveling around it's like gez there's no stop 562 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,520 signs any place um could you help us out the you know with the engineer to just 563 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:53,440 try and look at at some places that you believe may be uh 564 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:57,920 a good choice for the placement of stop signs and maybe uh let us know if there 565 00:48:56,319 --> 00:49:03,200 have been accidents at the intersections. I mean maybe we're just 566 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:07,040 you know over regulating things and we've been accused of that in the past 567 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,520 and you know maybe we're guilty of it but I'd rather have more stop signs than 568 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,880 less stop signs uh just for the safety of our citizens. Just to clarify, you're 569 00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:19,599 talking about on the tree streets between uh Wil like Wilson side tree 570 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:26,240 streets >> Wilson Wilson and going out to I guess 571 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:30,800 where um maybe 572 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:34,160 » yeah Skilman Weller Dana all those Strathmore 573 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,960 » all in that in that general vicinity that I corner it seems like there's 574 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:43,599 there's not there's there's no intersections that have stop signs. 575 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:50,960 You'd think that that's the intersection of uh let's see Willow and and um what 576 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:55,040 is it? Skillman and Skilman. You'd think that, you know, it's it seems obvious 577 00:49:52,960 --> 00:50:00,240 that you should stop, but you don't have a stop sign. All all those streets in 578 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:04,079 that area. I mean, if you want, like I said, I'm okay, 579 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,520 » I'm available if you guys want to take a a ride along. I'm more than willing to 580 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:13,680 go around and just take a look at it. Maybe I'm overthinking. wear over here. 581 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:18,079 But like I said, it was just uh when I thought about it and when I looked at 582 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:23,599 it, I was kind of amazed that there's not a lot more stop signs. We put speed 583 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:29,760 pumps, you know, every 10 ft sometimes, but there's no stop signs. So, um the 584 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:34,160 Claremont speed study, do we do speed studies? 585 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:38,319 » Yes, I have data I can forward to you, >> but you can get up here and tell us 586 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:41,680 about it. Travel up. 587 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:45,559 Travel up, my friend, to give us some data. Take a ride. 588 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,839 » Stop doing your fantasy football draft and come on up here. 589 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,839 » Try the B studies. >> Oh. 590 00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:22,000 So, the the studies that were forwarded to me from the traffic unit were 591 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:26,559 from 2024, which is when these studies were originally ordered for these areas. 592 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,480 You want me to review the data from that? 593 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:33,359 » From 2024, >> correct? Don't Didn't we ask for uh 594 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:38,079 studies? >> I don't I don't have the updated ones. 595 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:42,480 » We say we asked for Samson and Claremont closer to the diamond. Did were those 596 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:48,000 but the box? >> I don't have the uh updated ones. I have 597 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:51,200 the data from 2024. I'm waiting on the updated ones. 598 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:55,200 » Okay. So, I didn't know we did one on Samson before. 599 00:51:52,319 --> 00:52:01,280 » Uh Samson and Claremont are the areas that you asked around last meeting. 600 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:05,040 » We did that in 2024. Correct. >> So, okay. Well, since you're here and 601 00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:09,440 you got some stuff on your phone, why don't you let us know what happened in 602 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:13,280 20124 cuz we have had complaints from people who reside on those streets in 603 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:17,680 that area. >> Okay. Uh 604 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,880 on Fairmont >> and again, you know where where it was 605 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:26,160 placed on Claremont because now we're talk I know the studies were done to 606 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:31,920 Claremont. >> Okay. February 21st through March 1st, 607 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,400 there were 8,798 vehicles analyzed with an average speed 608 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:44,960 of 27 mph. The fastest recorded speed was 57 mph 609 00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:50,160 and the uh traffic was also placed in front of 140 Claremont 610 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:55,760 for the next study I have here. That's just folks. Can you 611 00:52:53,119 --> 00:53:00,400 tell us based on you living there? 140. Where would that be? Was that closer to 612 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:03,920 the diner or closer to uh Westminster? 140 by 613 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:08,559 » 40. Closer to Westminster. 614 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:13,280 » Okay. You're just So you're you're 128. So it's it's a little Okay. It's a 615 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:18,720 little west of you. Okay. So at 140 Claremont from March 1st to March 11th, 616 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:24,480 there were 14,388 cars analyzed 617 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:28,800 with an average speed of 26 mph with the fastest speed captured being 64 milesPH. 618 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:34,480 Okay. >> So the first one you mentioned, can you 619 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,920 tell us where in Claremont that one was? >> The first one was 92 Claremont. 620 00:53:36,087 --> 00:53:42,960 [clears throat] So that closer to the >> closer to Okay. And they're other than 621 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:51,280 the ridiculously high speed you just mentioned, um they were uh kind of the 622 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:55,200 same. 27 mph, 26 mph speed. 623 00:53:51,920 --> 00:54:01,920 » 27 mph and 26 mph. >> So just 624 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:05,440 are we doing the study again closer to the dining room or have we done it? I 625 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,440 don't know. We just don't have the back. >> We haven't completed yet. 626 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,160 » You haven't done it yet. >> It's not completed. 627 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:18,000 » Okay. Okay. So now we'll go to Samson while you're here. 628 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:21,119 » Samson, uh, from 1113 to 11:24. In 2024, there were 16,269 629 00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:25,200 vehicles. >> 16,000. 630 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:30,079 » Correct. Uh, with the average speed being 17 mph. 631 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:36,000 Out of those 16,269 vehicles, there were four total 632 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:40,640 enforceable violations greater than 35 mph. 633 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:45,400 The low speed captured was 7 mph and the high speed captured was 44 milesPH. 634 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,960 » There was also a they called a ghost reading which could be a a glitch with 635 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:57,200 the radar which could occasionally happen that show a reading of 114 mph, 636 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,680 » but it's likely that that was a a glitch. It was a a one speed that came 637 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,559 up. >> Fast and furious was being filmed there 638 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,079 » during that time frame. Yes. >> Okay. So, have we have we put the box on 639 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,319 the street again? >> It's just it's full box. So, that's this 640 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,880 is something that's been updated now. We'll have the September meeting. 641 00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:19,119 » Maybe by the September meeting. Okay. Awesome. 642 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:26,400 » Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks. 643 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:28,720 Okay. Um congratulations. 644 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:32,480 Thank you. >> Thank you. 645 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:37,520 uh September 14th at the senior center talking about seniors uh and senior 646 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:44,960 center uh I believe that's the second Monday right the 7th is Labor Day so the 647 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:50,640 14th uh they're going to have a special uh Bobby Darren 648 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:56,319 uh the person that kind of like is the biographer for Bobby Darren is going to 649 00:55:52,160 --> 00:56:00,480 be there giving a uh a presentation and uh I know him pretty well because I 650 00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:04,720 graduated high school with him and actually I'm sponsoring it so I'm paying 651 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:12,720 for him so it's not costing a town. Um so hopefully that'll be well attended. 652 00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:16,400 Um picnic uh you know anybody who's got some ideas about the picnic please let 653 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:21,760 us know. We try and improve the picnic every year. I know that last year which 654 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:26,559 was the first year we've used a certain vendor for the food and instead of 655 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:31,440 having an hour and a half wait sometimes for hamburgers when I got there and I 656 00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:34,880 got there a little late um I thought the picnic was canceled cuz I didn't see 657 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:40,400 anyone at the food at the food places. They had so many places to get food that 658 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:44,319 there were no lines whatsoever. I think the ice cream truck maybe had 659 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:49,760 something but the food itself the hot hamburgers that kind of stuff lines. So, 660 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,359 uh, that's one thing that somebody mentioned to us or referred to us. We 661 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:57,599 looked at it and, uh, we decided to go that way. Sometimes you, sometimes it 662 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:05,200 works, sometimes it didn't. I think that it worked. Um, 663 00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:08,960 in terms of what Mr. Rodriguez said uh, about an employee at the podium, my 664 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:16,160 understanding is that there's no restriction really um, on what somebody 665 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:20,640 says. as the clerk reads. If you say something that's defamatory, you can be 666 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:26,079 sued. Um, so that's up to the person that believes that he's or she is being 667 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:29,680 defamed. Uh, but certainly just because you work for the town does not mean, my 668 00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:35,839 understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Escatino is that because you 669 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:41,280 work for the town, you do not wave your right to come to a council meeting at 670 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:48,720 the town that you reside and make a comment that uh might not be uh very uh 671 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:51,440 nice to a particular person. Am I correct with that? 672 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:54,960 » You're 100% correct. Employees do not give up their first amendment 673 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:58,000 constitutional right to free speech because they're employed by the 674 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,920 municipality. any employee can come here at a public meeting and voice their 675 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:08,400 opinion of having on any subject matter just like any other resident can 676 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:12,400 » uh in regard to Mr. Rodriguez's uh talking about affordable housing, Mr. 677 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:18,400 Holmes has talked about it. I I do recall as the mayor had indicated being 678 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:26,640 on the council when that area was designated for affordable housing. Um it 679 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:31,599 was thought about for a long time uh and he did indicate something about a sports 680 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:37,760 field. We did talk about that before there was an agreement for Veterans 681 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:43,359 Field that that area was talked about as being a place that we might be able to 682 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:47,280 put a recreation facility. Uh also the uh the area 683 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:51,119 right by Mayo where the Mayo Apartments are now that was another area that we 684 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:55,920 talked about. So we did have uh discussions. So I was for one spot, Mr. 685 00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:01,440 Sedicates was for another spot, Mr. Rodriguez was for another spot. Uh but 686 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:07,040 we eventually agreed on Veterans Field uh for [clears throat] the uh for a 687 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:12,319 recreational facility and we needed to uh designate in the area for affordable 688 00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:19,119 housing related Mr. Ino said we can get blasted by a builder coming in and 689 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:26,799 putting up 180 units or 240 units to get our 60 affordable units. So we that 690 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:32,559 place has been empty for years until we got somebody to put in our affordable 691 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:38,480 housing uh units. I think six or eight of them. Jimmy, can you tell me which 692 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:42,319 are for developmentally disabled people? >> Off the top off the top of my head, I 693 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:48,960 believe it's uh 17. >> Oh, okay. More than I thought. Okay. So, 694 00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:55,599 there will be it's in that range. >> So, even though I say 15 and there's 45 695 00:59:51,599 --> 01:00:03,359 just for um um to to work out some numbers 45 units as opposed to 60. So, 696 00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:06,960 so just that being um 15 less or so, uh that would decrease the amount of 697 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:12,400 children that might be going to school. And again, there were hearings on this, 698 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:15,680 many hearings on this. And the developer, you know, they had their 699 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:20,319 studies and everyone thinks because you put up 40 units and it's two bedrooms 700 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:24,480 that you're going to have 80 kids and it doesn't work out that way. Uh, I forget 701 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:30,400 what the numbers were, but when they put up the apartments next to um where Bob 702 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:35,040 Skis was off of Midland Avenue, right by Route 46 over there, I forget how many 703 01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:41,839 units there are, but it had minimal or no impact on the school system. So, they 704 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:46,319 they do present studies about how many kids are projected to be in school. And 705 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:52,559 again, those kids can range from preschool to 706 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:57,359 12th grade. Well, you got 60 kids, maybe let's say 60 707 01:00:55,599 --> 01:01:04,480 kids, but they're they're spaced out between 12 grades and um so it's not the 708 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:08,319 overwhelming impact that that some people uh might think and and the 709 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,440 numbers, they have statistical data going back years to show that that's not 710 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,280 the case. >> Through the chair, I have others to add 711 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:18,240 because one uh during the public comment, one point was brought up about 712 01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:22,640 uh communicating with the school district. I'm sure at the time there 713 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:29,520 there were communications but even uh when uh the site was going through the 714 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:34,319 lottery process for um for filling the the rentals uh I did speak with I myself 715 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,839 spoke with the school um business administrator who spoke with the 716 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:41,760 superintendent and I off I just told them that it was that it was going to be 717 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,960 they were releasing and filling up and I gave them some of the highle information 718 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:49,040 and offered that if they needed any more information in terms of the actual 719 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:52,799 breakdowns of one two and threes and so on and so forth that you know we of 720 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:56,960 course would make available to them and um to your point the remaining units 721 01:01:55,359 --> 01:02:01,040 there are a mix of one two and three bedrooms. So it's not all three bedrooms 722 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,920 it's probably majority one or two bedrooms 723 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:09,280 » right so there might be a certain number of that 45 units where there's just uh 724 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:13,760 you know one person or two person living there with with no impact on the school 725 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:17,760 system whatsoever. Um and again they have data that they compile and uh 726 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:23,280 that's what they came up I think I think they actually put a number of what they 727 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:27,440 project to be the number of of students uh from coming from this and 728 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:31,359 unfortunately I forget what it was but it was not it certainly wasn't high it 729 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,440 wasn't anything that would you know raise our uh our interest in that and 730 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:41,040 say oh my god that's what's going to go on here this is going to overwhelm our 731 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:44,799 school system not at all um we talked about a lot of it was in close session. 732 01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:50,559 I just want to tell our our residents, our friends, our neighbors at Meister 733 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:56,319 that we are doing what we can to protect you, but as Mr. Scino had stated, um 734 01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:00,720 sometimes um and I'm rushing into things that 735 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:06,799 that's a bad term to use because we've been talking about this for months. Uh 736 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:12,559 however uh things have been brought to our attention and uh as a group we felt 737 01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:20,920 that it was in the best interest of the community including their slice of the 738 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,920 community to 739 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:32,799 take um additional action additional investigatory action um before we uh we 740 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:38,160 do anything and put this to a vote. So, uh, we're trying not to delay. It's not 741 01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:43,680 a purposeful delay. It's not an issue where somebody, um, somebody's got money 742 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:50,240 and we're afraid of that person. I mean, we got money, too. So, uh, it's it's 743 01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:53,839 it's not that we're bowing down or or, you know, uh, turning away because 744 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,880 because of something. That's not something that that I do. I know that fe 745 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:06,720 my fellow members of the council are not afraid of uh of of you know litigation. 746 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:12,400 We're not afraid of being bullied. Um but uh we all felt in in the close 747 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:18,160 session that it was best to go about it in a different manner. Um we hope to 748 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:23,440 have something more concrete very shortly. But we are working and we we 749 01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:29,200 are as we always do take the uh the citizens our residents uh concerns as as 750 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:34,319 our number one priority. No one else um but our citizens. I thank you. I believe 751 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:39,680 that we will go into ordinances at this point. 752 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:44,400 Um let's see. We got uh ordinance amending and supplementing 753 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:51,920 chapter 103 of the code of attachment of Southwork entitled graffiti. 754 01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:59,200 uh motion to open or to uh I guess to read read the ordinance. Give it give it 755 01:04:54,799 --> 01:05:04,000 a first reading. Motion second. What's that? That's graffiti. 756 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:10,079 Oh Jesus. Okay. I'm sorry. That was table. So we have a it was table the 757 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:14,640 last time. Uh motion to untot. Who did that first? Mr. Mando by a split 758 01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:19,160 second. Second by Mr. Chair. Uh let's take a roll call on table. Councilman 759 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,559 Eric. Yes. 760 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:27,760 Uh, Councilman Aldo. >> Yes. 761 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:29,599 » Counciloman Sanchez. >> Yes. 762 01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:31,680 » Council Laser. >> Yes. 763 01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:36,799 » Council President. >> Yes. Now, we'll entertain a motion to 764 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:41,760 give this a first reading. >> Motion. Motion by Mr. Akamando. Second 765 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,839 by Miss Sanchez. Um, let's do a roll call. 766 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:46,720 » Council Garrett. >> Yes. Councilman Okcomandanda, 767 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,559 » yes. >> Councilwoman Sanchez, 768 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,319 » yes. >> Councilwoman By, 769 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,440 » yes. >> Council President, 770 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:58,319 » yes. >> Please read the res resolution regarding 771 01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:02,799 passage now. Therefore be resolved by the township council of township that an 772 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:09,119 ordinance amending supplementing chapter 103 of the code of town graffiti here to 773 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:14,400 for pass on first reading be further considered for final passage at meetings 774 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:19,119 to be held on September 17th 2026 at 7 p.m. or as soon thereafter as the matter 775 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:23,359 can be reached at the municipal complex 55 Mayill Street and that at such time 776 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,200 and place all persons interested be given an opportunity to be heard 777 01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:31,680 concerning set ordinance according to law with a notice of its introduction 778 01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:35,119 and passage on first reading and of a time and place when and where set 779 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,720 ordinance will be further considered for final passion to pass on first reading 780 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,440 motion >> second major second by Mr. Amaz. 781 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,680 » Council Garrett, >> yes. 782 01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:47,599 » Council Maro, >> yes. 783 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,440 » Councilwoman Sanchez, >> yes. 784 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,440 » Councilwoman Maser, >> yes. 785 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:56,799 » Council President, >> yes. Certainly, if anyone has uh wants 786 01:06:54,319 --> 01:07:02,640 to speak about any of these ordinances, just when it's your turn to to vote, 787 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:06,079 just please uh say that you like to address the public, address the council, 788 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:11,839 address the mayor, address the legal representative, whoever you want to 789 01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:16,079 address. Uh next ordinance is uh 1805-26 ordinance amending and supplementing 790 01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:19,079 chapter 206 with the code of compass entitled 791 01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:30,160 motion uh motion give a second read second motion by Mr. Judge second by Mr. 792 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,160 Roll. Councilman Garrick, >> yes. 793 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,400 » Council Nakamando, >> yes. 794 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:36,160 » Councilwoman Sanchez, >> yes. 795 01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:38,559 » Councilwoman Major, >> yes. 796 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:42,640 » Council President Sul, >> yes. 797 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:47,599 » An ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 26 of the Cota Township of South 798 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:51,200 Title Zoning. Is there a motion to give it a public 799 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:55,760 hearing? >> Motion by Maser, second by Sanchez. All 800 01:07:53,920 --> 01:08:03,280 in favor? I. >> Any against? Seeing none, meeting now to 801 01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:08,480 the public in regard to this ordinance and this ordinance only. 802 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:16,440 Seeing the takers, entertain a motion to close the motion. Motion by Mr. Aando, 803 01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:16,440 second by Miss May. All in favor? I 804 01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:23,920 be resolved by the township council of the township of Sbrook that the 805 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:28,400 ordinance entitled an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 206 of the 806 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:32,640 code of the township of Srook entitled zoning must now pass on second final 807 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:37,440 reading and that the township clerk be directed to advertise set ordinance or 808 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:41,839 title thereof in press together with the notice of the date of passage of said 809 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:45,839 ordinance according to law. Okay. Is there a motion to pass on second reading 810 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:49,920 motion to adopt this motion? >> Mr. Gard, 811 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,920 » second by Miss Sanchez roll. 812 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,880 » Council Garrett, >> yes. Councilman Amanda, 813 01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:56,880 » yes. >> Councilwoman Sanchez, 814 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,719 » yes. >> Councilwoman Maser, 815 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,920 » yes. >> Council President Salu, 816 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:08,000 » yes. >> Okay, we now have the uh 817 01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:13,000 consent agenda. So resolution number five is going to be on submissions. 818 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:19,839 » All items listed with an asterisk are considered routine and non-controversial 819 01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:23,120 by the town of council and will be approved by one motion. There will be no 820 01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:27,520 separate discussion on these items unless a council member so request it in 821 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:31,679 which case the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its 822 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:35,359 normal sequence on the agenda. The one motion signifies adoption of all 823 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:39,040 resolutions, receive and file letters, correspondence, reports, and approval of 824 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:44,159 minutes and applications. Resolution number five to be voted on separately. 825 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:46,719 » Okay. Is there a motion? >> Second. 826 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:51,600 » Second motion by Miss Sanchez. Second by Mer. Um roll. 827 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:56,080 » Council Garrett. >> Yes. Council Ao. 828 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,760 » Yes. Counciloman Sanchez. >> Yes. 829 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:03,600 » Counciloman M. >> Yes. Council present. 830 01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:06,080 » Yes. And resolution number five. Is there a motion to pass resolution number 831 01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:12,880 five? >> Motion. 832 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:16,800 Second. Miss Sanchez. Roll call. Councilman Garrett. 833 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:19,600 » Yes. Councilman. >> Yes. 834 01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:22,640 » Councilwoman Sanchez. >> Yes. 835 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:26,320 » And council president. >> Yes. 836 01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:30,640 Uh next is all business. Usually we do all business and new business together. 837 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:36,640 um something that we haven't spoken about uh may or anything on your end. I 838 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:41,360 I just wanted to thank Thomas Van Winkl for all the work that he does and he was 839 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:48,000 he had a busy month for the junior police academy. I think he took uh 3,000 840 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:52,040 photos. He was with him every day, you know, 6 days 841 01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:59,679 car show. He I think he photographed every national night out police 842 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:05,520 promotion to all four of those. He was here. But thank you Thomas. 843 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:08,960 and anybody about stuff we haven't spoken on yet. 844 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,760 » Uh I too would like to commend Thomas and congratulate him on his new 845 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,199 position. >> Yeah. Thank you. 846 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:20,080 » But congratulations to you my friend. >> Happy to hear it. 847 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:25,280 Sanchez. I see a number of notes in there. You like to say? 848 01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:28,280 » Not right now. >> Okay. 849 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:34,080 All business. New business. Good. 850 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:38,400 Okay. Uh motion to open the meeting to the public for agenda items and agenda. 851 01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:43,679 Second who said first motion by second by Mr. 852 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:51,080 Akamand. All in favor >> I against seeing none meeting is now 853 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:51,080 open the public agenda item agenda item. 854 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:57,840 Seeing no customers will consider a motion to close the meeting to public 855 01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:02,640 motion by second by Mr. Garrick. All in favor? I 856 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:06,040 » um any last comments before we have a motion to adjurnn? 857 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:16,239 » Okay, take a motion to adjourn. Motion second. Motion by Maser, second by Mr. 858 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:19,239 Aando. All in favor? I good night everyone.