[0:00] Okay. Call this meeting to order.
Please call the roll.
[0:05] Council Gary here.
>> Here. Council woman Sanchez
[0:11] » here.
>> Councilwoman
[0:13] » here. Council president
>> here. Please rise the flag.
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Entertain a motion to open the meeting
[1:47] to the public.
>> Motion second.
[1:50] » All in favor?
>> I the meeting is now open to the public.
[1:53] As I said before, because of the issue
with the work session uh extending uh
[1:59] past our normal time, we will give
everybody uh 5 minutes uh for comments.
[2:05] Please don't use it.
[2:10] » Is this a workshop or this is a regular
meeting? Okay.
[2:25] Good evening. Our biggest cand
so person you just mentioned five
[2:31] minutes. Yes. All right. I'm going to
try to use that. Um first and foremost I
[2:37] would like to address some comments of
an employee last month.
[2:42] Uh my understanding is that when the
public pays your salary when you are an
[2:49] employee you cannot come to this you
even as a resident you cannot come and
[2:55] criticize and attack somebody
that's why this is the right notice and
[3:01] that's what I when I believe that the
attorney could put a stop to this
[3:06] because I'm a grown up man and I'm not
going to come out with nothing but uh it
[3:12] will open the town for litigation. So in
the future I wouldn't like to see an
[3:17] employee of that town addressing any
political questions or anything into the
[3:23] attack because last month one of the
employees got here and no one is coming.
[3:30] So that's just a thing. Um, another
comment. I'm just looking into the
[3:37] agenda.
Um,
[3:40] I see the graffiti orders. I see the son
code ordinance.
[3:46] Um,
I believe that is of potential
[3:52] litigation.
My question to the public is I don't
[3:58] know if we are being proactive or
reactive
[4:04] because when it came to political
science school political science they
[4:08] put a lot of restrictions the size the
time where to put it when to put it how
[4:14] to put it penalties but then we miss the
biggest picture which is
[4:20] actually to protect the town on how it
looks. on how we wanted to um for months
[4:29] uh this particular ordinance has been
tabled over and over again. I guess it's
[4:35] my guess I don't have uh access to
privilege uh information but I can see
[4:41] it
for that uh is coming legal challenges
[4:47] on the
future I guess. So sometimes when you
[4:53] create something try to see the entire
picture not just something so small like
[4:58] political science
and actually I'm here for more important
[5:04] things.
First I would like to talk to the
[5:10] public.
As I'm knocking door to door
[5:15] a lot of people ask me where is
Roseline?
[5:20] Roseline. Roseline is in the back of
Milan Avenue by the old cemetery.
[5:27] They just finished building
60 low income housing units.
[5:34] When I was council president,
I actually
[5:40] have in mind that to be a football field
or a soccer field for warm-ups or a
[5:46] playground.
[5:49] Sometime in the last few years has been
donated
[5:53] to a company for $1.
[6:00] Those kids that will be coming to that
low income housing project that have two
[6:04] and threebedroom apartments as well as
onebedroom apartment will bring kids
[6:09] those kids will be going to lon school
have the town sit down together with the
[6:16] world members maybe to try to address
some of the complexes questions that
[6:21] will be coming in the near future.
Um
[6:27] when veterans was going to go for back
in my time when I was council president
[6:34] I believe that more than 300 units were
going to come into where we know now
[6:39] veterans feel.
We negotiate with the develop with the
[6:43] owner that instead of developing 500
units we will buy it and we will build
[6:50] what we know now as veterans feel. But
what I seen yesterday when I drove by 60
[6:57] units,
my head started spinning off. If we can
[7:02] accommodate, if we have the
infrastructure, emergency services, if
[7:06] everything has been a square away, good
questions
[7:12] for $1. I don't know if he went out to
if he just pick and choose. I don't know
[7:19] what what it cost.
And finally, I just got a uh one last
[7:26] subject.
Uh
[7:30] I believe that it looks awful the way
Lyster looks now. One of the few streets
[7:36] I believe to bring down Nick, but having
so many signs not working, no parking, I
[7:42] don't know if that is something to
protect the residents or it was to
[7:45] penalize for bringing up the subject. is
the only town in Bergen County, I think,
[7:50] or the state of New Jersey that got more
signs than than residents.
[7:55] And uh when I speak about market
history,
[7:59] it is because I attend most of those
meetings, planning board, council, all
[8:06] kind of meetings
and I still try to work around and I
[8:11] don't know why sometimes the attorney
jump off his chair to ask some of these
[8:16] questions, but I'm very professional
trying to hear from the land officials
[8:20] that are the main on maybe they got the
right to do so when they saw sold 60
[8:26] units for $26,000 a piece.
>> Mr. Rodriguez, in 5 minutes, your 5
[8:32] minutes has expired.
>> Okay. Can I just go for this? Sure.
[8:38] » Uh there's another project at Eno Park.
It's smaller, just one acre. We sold one
[8:44] acre and a half and they are selling it
for $5.5 million and we sold ours for
[8:48] $1.6 million. Thank you very much. Thank
you. Thank you.
[8:59] Good evening, Thomas family 128.
Okay, so first things first, just some
[9:05] updates to provide to Mayor Council
tonight.
[9:08] I mentioned this, I think briefly last
month um from community partnership.
[9:12] together our sour community connections
newsletter our latest issue and you know
[9:16] came out for the month of August um just
highlighting all the great
[9:19] collaborations and partnerships from the
different uh organizations in in town
[9:24] and our community calendar is in here
which again anybody wants to add events
[9:29] to the community calendar you can add it
on the town website there's a form you
[9:33] fill out to have it considered being
added so that's in here just a bunch of
[9:37] community partnership mayor's youth
group updates our recycling schedule And
[9:42] we have this available in digital and in
print from the community partnership. Um
[9:46] we have copies right in this room here
in the rec center and the town offices
[9:51] and and the library and a whole bunch of
other buildings
[9:56] and the list goes on and on and really
trying to bring these newslets to
[10:00] different businesses and different
organizations throughout the town senior
[10:03] center as well. So please consider
reading it and finding out what's going
[10:08] on in town. really the community
partnership is striving to just bring
[10:11] bring the information, you know, about
these collaborations, about the events
[10:15] going on to the people in our community.
So, please check that out. Um,
[10:21] going to piggy back off the mayor's
youth group. Now, we had a summer fun
[10:24] outing on July the 24th. We went to
Vansstone Park um in Switch, which which
[10:29] was very which was a great day. The
weather was perfect. Kids had a great
[10:33] time. I do want to thank the mayor and
also Christine, mayor of the secretary
[10:38] for helping to put this together in
addition to all the parents who chaper
[10:42] owned the trip and and helped with
manpower and and you know, of course
[10:46] supervision and also want to thank our
former President Tyler Posie for taking
[10:51] pictures and really helped us out um
with Van Salon as well. So it was a
[10:56] great day. Looking ahead, we're going to
be uh volunteering bringing food and
[11:00] beverages to the seniors and anyone else
in need at the uh township picnic on
[11:05] August the 29th or the 30th if it rains.
So, we hope to see everybody out and of
[11:10] course we'll attend the mayor's walk as
well. So, and also we look forward to
[11:14] all the great events coming up that we
participate in the town throughout the
[11:18] fall and into the holiday season. So it
would again it's always open to any
[11:24] South Brook youth who lives in town from
grades 4 through 12 as of September
[11:29] 2026. So that's all I got on that. Thank
you very much.
[11:35] Thank you, Thomas, and and thanks for
all the volunteerism that you uh you do
[11:39] through throughout the year.
[11:49] 518,
is there any update on the uh I seen on
[11:54] the paper you were going to talk about
it. Is there any update on what's going
[11:58] on with street?
We we did have as as you're aware we did
[12:03] have an extensive um close
session meeting it was regarding
[12:09] personnel but also a lot of that had to
do with
[12:12] um it is a legal issue. Um, I'm going to
defer to the You know what? If you want
[12:19] to you you've got time. I don't want to
take up your time. If once you're
[12:22] finished, so this way we're not taking
up your time. You can [clears throat]
[12:26] talk and give comments about anything
you want, you know, during your time and
[12:30] then we'll respond. Then we'll be
responsible.
[12:33] » You're saying it's a legal issue.
What's the legal issue?
[12:38] potential litigation is what we can uh
>> So basically what you're telling me is
[12:43] the owner of the building is now
threatening to sue.
[12:49] Okay, that's the only legal issue that
could be there.
[12:54] And if that's the case,
follow the suit. Are you all going to
[12:59] fold?
I don't think so.
[13:04] Is the council and the mayor going to
stick up for the president
[13:08] or a guy that lives in Scarboro, New
York? Why about bringing a company in
[13:14] and changed it and does whatever he
wants?
[13:18] Because if the council doesn't stick
with the people, that's your right.
[13:24] But then I'm going to do anything I can
to get the ones that vote against this
[13:29] happen.
And I know there's only 13 houses on the
[13:33] block. 14,000 on a block, but I know a
lot of people in town and people
[13:40] come first before outsiders.
And if I find out any of our legal
[13:47] authority in this town votes against us,
he speaks up to the building,
[13:52] there's going to be more trouble
legally, but there'll be trouble.
[13:59] I heard every one of you
stick up for us at the last meeting and
[14:05] I'm hoping you stick up for us again.
[14:10] And our township attorney works for us,
not for anybody else. We pay your salary
[14:18] as taxpayers. So I hope you do a good
job for us. Thank you. And the mayor, I
[14:24] know the mayor is want to raise here.
is for our people. So, and I know most
[14:31] of you are, but as soon as people hear
the word lawsuit or legal trouble,
[14:37] everybody kind of calls it to all. And I
hope that doesn't happen.
[14:42] Now, if we are sued and people change
their votes,
[14:48] don't hide from us who the people are.
Let us know who changes their votes.
[14:55] I don't want to hear that. This is
secret. It's got to be behind. It's not
[14:58] open to the public because we have a
right to know as taxpayers in the town.
[15:04] Thank you.
>> Thank you very much,
[15:08] Mr. Taylor.
>> No, I'm good. Thank you.
[15:11] » Okay. I saw you twitching back there as
well, ma'am.
[15:28] Monastery 25. I'm back again. Um, good
evening and thank you for the
[15:34] opportunity to speak. I want to begin by
clarifying that I am not questioning the
[15:39] merits of the many services and programs
Saddleberg provides to seniors. Nor am I
[15:44] suggesting that Saddle Brook is anything
other than a good and caring community.
[15:48] My question is much narrower as it
centers on the decision made to
[15:52] discontin the saddle senior bus
processes used during evaluation. I
[15:58] understand the reasons given for lower
ridership specifically medical ride and
[16:02] the age of bus. What I'm trying to
understand and wrap my head around is
[16:07] what analysis was done with those facts
before the decision was made. First,
[16:12] it's important to put medical rights in
context. when Southwork senior bus was
[16:18] reduced to four days. I don't know when
that was. Um I'm kind of new to the
[16:23] service. Uh but it was narrowed down to
uh 4 days a week, Tuesday and Thursday
[16:28] morning for earmarked for shopping trips
which left Wednesday and Friday 9 to 3
[16:34] for medical appointments while also
putting in the bingo uh coordinating for
[16:39] bingo transportation on those days. So
low usage has a direct correlation with
[16:44] the availability of the actual service.
Um and when the analysis was done, what
[16:52] facts were
reviewed before the decision was made?
[16:56] For example, was the reason for low
ridership examined? For example, as I
[17:01] just gave about it only being available
limited days, was they considered
[17:05] whether seniors knew the service was
available? I spoke about this last month
[17:10] um regarding important outreach
um
[17:14] was the month given directions from the
3-month period that was given as an
[17:19] example of the low ridership for medical
appointments. I'm just curious if that
[17:23] was an accurate representation of the
service as a whole and were all the
[17:27] buses uses considered like shopping and
recreation rather than just medical
[17:32] trips were available grants or other
funding options for aging vehicle or
[17:38] alternatives and stuff aside from fully
eliminating it um were all for all
[17:44] things considered and where seniors in
South Brook survey or asked what
[17:48] transportation they could actually use.
I'm not assuming these questions were
[17:52] not considered. I'm just asking whether
they were part of the evaluation. And I
[17:56] also want to make sure that we're all
working from the same ground level
[18:01] factual information. Um at the June
meeting it was said that there was only
[18:06] one bag of groceries on the Saddle Brook
senior bus. I used that service and I
[18:11] personally never saw this signing. I was
told I could have only one bag. And it
[18:16] was also stated that every work had a
transportation vehicle that was built to
[18:20] share accessible lifts, but they all had
an aid. I had that not been my
[18:25] experience. So in order to to get
accurate information to verify what I
[18:31] thought in the case, the county um
through an open request said that 20% of
[18:36] its vehicles have less and that they
don't provide any use. And again, these
[18:40] details, I just want to make sure
they're all, you know, working from the
[18:43] same level of facts. Um, and more
importantly, at the July meeting, I
[18:48] spoke about something very important
that the senior bus provided beyond
[18:53] transportation, and that is a connection
to our community. Uh, last year, the
[18:57] senior bus brought seniors to Natasha
picnic, and I know there's also a
[19:01] struggle for residents that we had last
year. This year's show, I think it's
[19:05] great. I know parking is tight over at
the park. Um but for a senior who cannot
[19:10] get to the municipal parking lot, they
can't use the shuttle. Um and the senior
[19:14] bus also did provide transportation to
the evening events for senior events
[19:18] like the Halloween party at the BFW. And
when I asked about seniors attending
[19:23] evening events like council meetings or
recreation, the response is that other
[19:28] towns don't provide transportation at
night. And every town makes it own
[19:32] different choices based on the needs of
its resident. So the question really is
[19:36] simply what is doing to meet the
transportation needs of its own citizens
[19:41] so they can age in place and remain
active participants in the community
[19:45] where they lived. Finally, as a new
writer to this out group bus, I'm trying
[19:50] to understand the history of the
service. What led to its establishment?
[19:55] What changed when the hours were
reduced? What led to its expansion at
[19:58] one point? And these questions are posed
in order to reconcile for myself how
[20:03] public services in book is evaluated,
how all the facts are made, and how
[20:10] decisions are reached. I believe we all
share the same goal, making good
[20:14] decisions for the township and ensuring
that our seniors needs are understood.
[20:20] Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Everyone else wish
[20:25] to address the council.
[20:29] See now, entertain a motion to close the
public.
[20:33] » Second. All in favor?
>> I meeting is now close to the public.
[20:38] Um,
so we're going to kind of do a hybrid
[20:43] meeting here. Uh, we'll do mayor's
mayor's comments, mayor's updates, and
[20:48] we'll go down. We'll ask the engineer
and council administrator, and then
[20:52] we'll go to council council comments.
But certainly, we want to make sure that
[20:56] we address Weiss during
our our comments.
[21:03] » Mayor, you don't want me to address my
>> uh, not right now. Oh, the mayor can
[21:10] Okay, you know what, John? Before the
mayor goes, from a legal perspective, I
[21:14] know we had a close session. Um so if
you can just do some explanation
[21:21] um as to what uh what the situation is
why we're in close session and uh what
[21:31] indicate whatever you can without
violating the uh the close session uh
[21:36] procedures.
>> Yes. Well well first of all uh without
[21:41] progress has been made because the
ordinance has been finalized. Uh I
[21:45] believe it's my understanding that uh
the revisions that were made are
[21:50] acceptable.
However, the uh adjacent property owner
[21:55] in my opinion has given us a heads up
that any action we take may be
[22:00] challenged and contrary to the concerns
that as the township attorney from my
[22:06] perspective, we wouldn't want litigation
and perhaps the public should understand
[22:11] that litigation generates legal fees.
That's how we earn a living. Whether we
[22:16] win or lose, we get paid. However, that
being said, as an attorney, and I'm sure
[22:22] I speak for most attorneys, when we get
a litigation, we want to win. We do not
[22:26] want to lose.
So why I feel that getting notice of the
[22:32] fact that it may be challenged is
actually benefit to us because now we
[22:36] need to know that we have all our ducks
in order that all the evidence to
[22:40] substantiate the need for
uh permitted parking only for residents
[22:47] 24/7 every day of the week meets the
legal requirements to impose that are in
[22:54] order. And so we are going to be making
sure we have all that evidence in place
[23:01] so that if the governing body go moves
ahead with the ordinance adoption that
[23:06] if it is challenged it's successful.
It's my job to your point to protect the
[23:11] public interest. It doesn't serve the
public interest to not give the guidance
[23:15] necessary that where the governing body
could take action they were going to
[23:19] incur significant legal cost and
exposure and by the way lose the case.
[23:24] that would be not doing my job. So my
job is to put the municipality in the
[23:28] best position to defend its actions. And
to do that, we need to do a little more
[23:33] homework in terms of gathering the
evidence to support our actions.
[23:40] » Thank you, Mayor.
[23:44] » Thank you, Council President. Uh, I just
want to before I start with my uh
[23:49] comments, I I just want to mention uh
something that that uh Mr. Rodriguez
[23:54] brought up um
specifically. He mentioned during his
[24:00] term that he wanted Rosal Lane, the
property that the town owned where the
[24:07] affordable housing is was built, uh he
said he wanted to use it for recreation
[24:14] or for a park or field or something like
that when in fact during his term and I
[24:21] think Mr. Saluca
and uh Mrs. major would would be able to
[24:27] uh correct me if I'm wrong, but I I
believe it was during that time that
[24:33] that property was designated for
affordable housing on the master plan.
[24:39] So,
>> you are correct.
[24:40] » Yeah.
>> Okay. So, yeah, that and he was part of
[24:44] the council then and I I don't know how
we voted, but I I imagine if we looked,
[24:50] he probably voted yes.
uh because we needed we needed to have
[24:55] affordable housing. So that's why and uh
I know Jimmy not now but maybe you can
[25:04] address it because you're more familiar
with you know you've been working with
[25:09] our our uh affordable housing attorney
and so you know all the particulars
[25:14] about what the price was and what kind
of rent or where what kind of
[25:20] compensation the town's going to get
from them. So maybe you can address that
[25:24] later. Um,
[25:29] and Mrs. Monoseri, you know what?
Honestly, you're you're a very
[25:34] intelligent person. You're asking a lot
of really good questions. I mean, I I
[25:41] can't formulate a response. I I would
like to take what you said and and work
[25:47] on it and write down the answers to some
of that stuff. I I know you've asked for
[25:52] some things, but um yeah, I I can't
formulate a good response, not nearly as
[25:59] good as your question and you know what
you brought up. So, you know, let me
[26:05] just say this. Um
I I believe we made the right choice.
[26:11] You know, no one was we weren't looking
to just willy-nilly just decide to
[26:16] eliminate the bus. And I believe that
right now the residents of town have a
[26:23] better service. Yeah, I know what you're
saying. It's nice to know who the bus
[26:28] driver is and get the same bus driver
and uh and really it had nothing to do
[26:32] with the bus driver. It wasn't the bus
driver. You know, we feel I know I speak
[26:38] for the council that a better service
came along and it and it's for free. So,
[26:44] you know, I I don't know. You mentioned
about the uh that not all the buses have
[26:49] aids and not all of them have lifts. You
know, honestly, I don't know that. You
[26:53] know, you called and you're you're
probably right, but uh you know, I
[26:59] believe if you need a lift and they know
it, they're going to send the bus with
[27:03] the lift. So, I don't know. I I we
really believe that
[27:09] right now. And and here's one thing. Uh
the business administrator checked
[27:15] there's right now there's almost 300
residents that are signed up to use that
[27:23] bus. 300 I mean we never had even close
to that. Not even close to that
[27:30] you know amount of people that were
using the bus. I mean maybe 300 rides
[27:35] maybe 10 15 people that you know that
use it 300 times a year. Maybe, maybe. I
[27:42] I I don't even know. And you know, you'd
have to check the records if we even
[27:46] have the records. So,
um you I I I wish I could I think we
[27:53] need to sit down and just talk and you
know, in person and and and you know,
[27:59] maybe with me and the business
administrator and uh yourself and and
[28:04] you know, trying to resolve this cuz you
know what? We're trying our best. We
[28:08] really are. And and we care about the we
care about the people. We care about our
[28:12] seniors so much. We really do. And we
got a good senior program. Uh a good
[28:18] senior. The center is is really really
flourishing right now. We're doing
[28:23] great. We have the lunch program which
they love. I mean, so I think we're
[28:29] doing well. We can always do better, but
you know, I'd like to hear your ideas.
[28:33] But as far as the the bus, I you know, I
I don't know. I I I just think it' be
[28:38] we'd be better served to sit and just
talk because
[28:42] you know you have a lot you said a lot
there and and you know some of the
[28:46] things you know are require a lot of
thought and and you know I might not
[28:51] even be the right person you know cuz I
I don't you know I don't run a bus
[28:55] company I I don't know the answer to
some of the things that you were saying.
[28:59] So anyway,
uh but thank you. I I I do appreciate
[29:04] you coming and voicing your concerns. So
let me get into uh last month I talked
[29:10] about the the budget. I'm going to
repeat some things, but uh some news
[29:15] some new stuff. Um we reconciled the tax
bills. So we sent out earlier we had
[29:22] sent out estimated tax bills. uh by the
end of September, we're going to be
[29:27] sending out the the permanent bill. Um
so it'll be going out by the end of
[29:32] September. The tax rate ended up coming
out to be 2.239%.
[29:38] I misspoke last month. I said estimated
was 2.337,
[29:44] but it was actually 2.237.
So I I apologize for that. But uh from
[29:50] last year to this year, we went up 6
thous0 of a point. So we're doing a
[29:57] really good job controlling our
spending. Most of the increase is due to
[30:02] fixed non-discretionary cost. On the
municipal side, the tax increase will be
[30:07] $188 on the average house, which is
valued at 57,000.
[30:14] Um I also mentioned this last last
month, but it's very important. There's
[30:19] there's three programs, the senior tax
free, the state of New Jersey, and
[30:23] Yanker. They have one application for
all three uh property tax initiatives.
[30:30] The application must be submitted by
November 2nd, 2026. The purpose of the
[30:36] tax reason in state, New Jersey is to
provide relief to senior homeowners 65
[30:41] and older. The anchor provides tax
rebates for adult homeowners and renters
[30:47] of all ages.
adult homeowners of all ages. So, check
[30:52] New Jersey Tax Release. There's a portal
on nj.gov for the application and
[30:58] eligibility requirements and income
limits.
[31:02] It's so important because a lot of
people are eligible. They just don't
[31:06] know about it. Every year I I I run into
a few people that that would have, you
[31:11] know, would have been able to get these
these rebates and would have been had
[31:15] had the tax frozen if they just knew
about it. So, you know, we try to get it
[31:20] out there as much as we can. I don't
want to keep repeating it because I want
[31:24] everybody out there to take advantage of
of what uh of these programs. So,
[31:30] ordinances. Tonight we have an amendment
to the zoning ordinance second reading
[31:35] which is about the signs uh the size of
signs of building signs. The planning
[31:41] board reviewed uh this ordinance and
gave us feedback. So they're in favor of
[31:48] of the ordinance. Um we're also amending
the graffiti ordinance. That's going to
[31:53] be a first reading.
Um so events that happened since July's
[31:59] meeting. We had police promotions uh
Thursday, July the the 30th. Uh Mark
[32:06] Buch, who's here tonight, and uh Rebecca
Rivero were promoted to captain.
[32:11] Congratulations.
Uh Irving Gutterz was promoted to
[32:17] lieutenant and Adam Tragarios was
promoted to sergeant. National Night Out
[32:23] was uh Tuesday, August the 4th here at
the municipal complex parking lot from
[32:28] 6:00 to 9:00. I want to thank all of you
that joined us. Had an amazing turnout,
[32:34] fantastic evening, great food and fun. I
want to thank our police department, the
[32:38] fire department, and ambulance corps.
Also to our community partners and
[32:43] volunteers. Uh it's very inspiring to
see the community come together and
[32:48] connect. Uh, it reminds me, it reminds
all of us really that we have a strong
[32:54] community and we're there to thank our
thanks. We have a strong and safe
[32:59] community thanks to our first
responders.
[33:03] Um, the ambulance car show, Ambulance
Corp car show was Sunday, August the 9th
[33:08] from 9 to 3 here at the municipal
complex parking lot. Uh, the ambulance
[33:13] corp worked along with American
cruisers. Um, all proceeds were donated
[33:18] to this out of the Volunteer Ambulance
Corps. Um, I think they they uh there
[33:24] was a check that they um presented the
the the core with a check for $2,500.
[33:30] So, it was a it was a nice nice uh time
and it was bene beneficial for the
[33:35] ambulance court. Um, Junior Police
Academy was August 6th to the 14th here
[33:41] at the municipal complex. The graduation
ceremony was Friday, August 14th, 5:30
[33:46] p.m. here at the gym at the rec center.
It's a great program and uh most
[33:52] importantly, it builds trust between the
the cadetses and the and law
[33:57] enforcement. The program also builds
leadership and confidence in the
[34:01] cadetses. The cadets learn the values of
discipline and teamwork, and it's nice
[34:07] to see how the kids step up to support
one another. Um, it's really a great
[34:11] program.
Um, thank you to to the police
[34:14] department.
Um, upcoming events, the St. Phillips
[34:19] 67th annual festival. I don't have the
date, but it starts, I believe, next
[34:24] Thursday. Um,
>> Wednesday.
[34:27] » 26th to the 30th.
>> The 26th to the 30th. Thank you. Um, the
[34:32] town picnic is Saturday, August 29th, 12
to 4 at South River County Park. The
[34:38] rain day is Sunday, August the 30th.
It's residents only. Tickets are
[34:44] available at the rec center during
normal hours of operation, 7:30 a.m. to
[34:48] 8:30 p.m. and uh Monday through Friday
and then Saturday from uh 7:30 to 3:00
[34:56] p.m. I believe. Uh tickets will also be
available on the day of the picnic. Uh
[35:03] the mayor's walk is also the day of the
picnic, the morning of the picnic. 9:00
[35:08] a.m. Um, same thing. Um, it's Saturday,
August 29th and rain day Sunday, uh,
[35:16] August 30th.
Um, we we give out we walk around Auto
[35:23] Pale Pond. There's free t-shirts given
out and they're sponsored by Ferrer
[35:28] Spine and Rehabilitation.
Uh, finally, we have the 911 monument
[35:34] dedication ceremony. That's going to be
Friday, September 11th, 5:30 here at the
[35:39] municipal complex.
Some uh other things, the town hall and
[35:43] DPW personnel are off on Labor Day.
That's Monday, September 7th. Section
[35:48] one yard waist will be picked up on
Friday, September 11th. Uh the splash
[35:53] plat Veterans Field is in operation,
happy to say. Uh that entire project was
[36:00] paid for with grant funds. Uh, one of
our goals here has been to enhance our
[36:06] parks and create a safe space for a
community to come together. It's a great
[36:10] place for the kids to cool off and
seeing them personally going there and
[36:15] seeing them laugh and have fun reminds
me of why I wanted to be a public
[36:20] servant. Um, it's really nice to see. If
you have a chance, take a ride over
[36:25] there. Um, we're working on right now.
We're working on the best way to install
[36:30] some kind of shade around that splash pl
splash pad. It'll probably be done after
[36:35] the season, but uh we do need something
there so so the kids can get out of the
[36:41] the sun and the water, especially the
mountains. But thank you.
[36:48] » Okay. Uh Mr. Engineer, can you just give
us an update on what's going on
[36:52] engineering wise in town?
>> Thank you very much.
[36:54] » Okay, take care.
>> Sure. Uh first thing we're awarding um
[37:01] South Street Road improvements tonight
to uh Frank Mashion.
[37:05] Um that should be that work should be
done this fall. It's CDBG funded. Um two
[37:12] other projects that we should be seeing
soon. Um, one is the Fifth Street Park,
[37:18] the basketball court, and then the other
one is the uh demo of the two houses
[37:24] [sighs]
um along the river there. Uh, other than
[37:29] that, that's that's pretty much it for
now.
[37:53] a new item on our hit list is the
business administrator update. So
[37:57] please, Mr. Holy.
>> Yeah. Um at the uh meeting in September,
[38:01] I'll be presenting the capital budget to
the council. Um the reason it's coming a
[38:06] little bit delayed is that we do have a
sewer emergency on uh on Grand Terrace
[38:13] and we're working along with engineer
along with our auditor and attorney uh
[38:18] on an emergency basis to conduct that
work which is a uh which would be a
[38:22] significant amount of money. So we will
be I would have to revise the capital
[38:27] budget to be presented to the council at
the following meeting uh to include that
[38:31] emergency work and there will be formal
action uh to be considered for that.
[38:36] It's going to require a sewer pipe to be
lined
[38:41] and um if there if the council wishes me
to highlight some of the um the
[38:47] agreement with Ingramman on Rosal Lane,
I'm happy to do so. just to highlight
[38:51] some of the key uh uh facts of that
transaction. Happy to do so.
[38:55] » I think that would be appropriate at
this time since it was um possible
[38:59] misinformation that was uh shown forth.
>> Yeah. There uh the transaction which was
[39:04] done in 2021 includes um uh it was a
transaction for $1 with Ingram to do a
[39:12] 58 unit site 100% affordable housing um
with the understanding that it's 6.28%
[39:18] to 8% of the U revenues will be paid to
the township on a quarterly basis. Uh
[39:24] but the timeline is taxes are due. These
types of transactions are are very
[39:29] common um in the affordable housing
umbrella throughout the state. This had
[39:33] to go to several state agencies to be
approved. And this is very common if not
[39:39] their uh more transactions include more
funds to be given from the town local uh
[39:45] affordable housing trust fund to support
their project. Um they Ingram um went uh
[39:51] themselves to get their own funding
through other state agencies with you
[39:54] know on that end of what they do. uh
some towns in their uh in these type of
[39:59] agreements um through the trust fund
provide the developer cash [gasps] uh to
[40:05] do so to pro uh to be able to support
their project to build their project.
[40:09] Um, one thing to keep in mind with why
these are are very common is that with
[40:14] the affordable housing obligations to be
able to get the credits like something
[40:18] like this project 60 units, 60
affordable housing credits, you would
[40:22] need a project triple or quadruple the
size to be able to get those affordable
[40:27] housing credits. So, there's no market
rate units in there. If it was a mixed
[40:31] commercial uh market rate uh uh
development, you would have you would
[40:36] need several hundred units to be able to
get those type of credits, which is why
[40:39] you see these type of transactions and
buildings uh that are and transactions
[40:44] that are common under this affordable
housing umbrella and the various
[40:47] agencies involved in this
chair just to to follow up on our
[40:54] administrative session and to further
clarify. So basically it's a trade-off.
[40:58] A town could give a developer tremendous
amount of density, several hundred
[41:02] units, some of which would be affordable
housing. Or rather than do that, they
[41:08] could have all affordable housing units
on one single property, no larger units,
[41:13] and then if they have the land, which
unfortunately some towns don't, the
[41:17] towns are willing to transfer the land
versus, as the administrator said,
[41:21] giving the developer a few million
dollars in order to build those
[41:24] affordable housing units. So in this
case, whoever the individuals were at
[41:29] the time must have felt that it was a
financial benefit to the community both
[41:34] in limiting high density developments to
meet the affordable housing obligations
[41:39] and in addition to that to have the land
transferred and get the 6.8%
[41:45] payment each year versus giving that
developer a few million dollars towards
[41:51] the construction cost. And I'm sure that
that was all discussed and the different
[41:55] options were presented to the governing
body and the governing body felt it was
[41:59] in the best interest to go in this
direction that they did.
[42:04] » Thank you very much.
>> Yeah, I think was my report. Thank you.
[42:08] » Okay. Um I guess we'll start with
comments. Mr.
[42:15] » Um I just want to congratulate Kath. I
wasn't here. I'm sorry. I was on
[42:18] vacation. Best luck in your row to the
other uh the other one individuals that
[42:23] were promoted. Best of luck and uh
healthy and uh
[42:30] just a safe career.
[42:34] » Thank you.
>> And that's it.
[42:39] » I too like to congratulate Ken Cap. You
know you have our full support behind
[42:44] the whole police force always and also
congratulations to our junior academy
[42:51] this morning Mr. Garrick.
>> Uh good evening everyone. I guess I have
[42:57] to congratulate you again Mark. So
congratulations to you and the other
[43:01] officers for doing a great job. So best
of luck to you. Um I just want to speak
[43:06] a little bit about the county bus. Um,
this is a form of really a shared
[43:12] service. They do a great job. Um, 10% of
our property taxes go to the county. So,
[43:18] if you're spending $10,000 on property
taxes, about a,000 goes to the county.
[43:24] Um, they also provide some ambulance
coverage for us, which is greatly
[43:28] appreciated. We also have a beautiful
county park that's really close, right,
[43:33] that we take advantage of. But in this
time of challenging taxes, if we have a
[43:40] redundancy of services, we have to take
advantage of what's being offered from
[43:45] the county. And we have hundreds of
people taking advantage of that program.
[43:48] And we're very fortunate to be able to
do that and get a little bit back for
[43:52] the 10% of your property taxes that go
to the county. So, I think it's a it's a
[43:59] good thing. Do I like losing the bus
service? In a perfect world, we have
[44:04] that, too. but it's a redundancy of
services here. So, I think that we have
[44:08] no choice but to go with the county
program and to allow them to provide
[44:13] that service to us and it's working out.
It really is. And if anybody has a
[44:19] problem, let us know. We can reach out
if there's a problem with scheduling and
[44:23] so forth. Um, we said that we have one
other resident here. So, we're trying to
[44:27] help out and we're trying to save the
taxpayers as much money as we can. you
[44:32] know, we have to get as much back from
the county as we can, and they do. They
[44:36] they give us that uh ambulance core
service during the day that we need, and
[44:41] they also give us that county park,
which is beautiful. So, that that's what
[44:46] I'd like to say about that. Uh in
regards to the township picnic on August
[44:51] 29th, I will be there. It starts at
12:00. Hopefully, I see many of friendly
[44:57] faces and our residents taking advantage
of that and coming and saying hello and
[45:01] being part of that great day. Um, hope
everyone enjoys the rest of the summer.
[45:07] Uh, that's all I have at this time.
Thank you.
[45:10] » Thank you, Mr. Carr.
[45:15] » Um, congratulations
again to all the officers who were
[45:18] promoted. Um, congratulations to the
police academy cadetses. Um,
[45:26] and I know the mayor said that he was
going to look into a little bit about
[45:32] um, what you have mentioned about the
bus service. Um, one thing that was
[45:37] mentioned was seniors attending the
evening events. Um, I'm not sure how
[45:43] many seniors need assistance attending
the evening events, but um, I know you
[45:49] said that the services don't run in the
evening. So, I'm not sure if there's
[45:52] something that we might be able to look
into in order to get these seniors who
[45:58] are interested to these events, you
know, that'd be wonderful.
[46:03] Um, that's
>> Thank you. Um, since again this is a
[46:10] hybrid type of meeting, there's some
bold business that was on to be
[46:16] discussed at the work session. I just uh
see the note here. The engineer from the
[46:21] last time was to look at stop signs on
barrier streets. I think we talked about
[46:26] at least on the north end that I know
about there's a number of streets,
[46:29] intersecting streets where there's zero
stop signs.
[46:33] Luckily, uh there hasn't been, at least
as far as I know, there hasn't been a
[46:38] lot of accidents, but you know, the next
accident, the first accident is is, you
[46:44] know, something we don't want to have.
Uh certainly somebody who doesn't want
[46:48] to be the first accident in in an
intersection that's uncontrolled. Bob,
[46:51] if you had an opportunity to take a
gander at uh the tree streets and um I
[46:58] would think it would be the streets east
of Farewell Parkway.
[47:05] Uh before I go willy-nilly looking
around town, I just need some clarity on
[47:10] what exactly you want me to look at or
where. If it's one or two spots, tell me
[47:14] the spots over town things
>> before you go spending hours and
[47:20] dollars. I don't think we should spend
that much. We should take a 15-minute
[47:23] ride on the south end to the east side
of F Parkway, go up and down the tree
[47:28] streets. There's no stop signs any
place. Uh and there's intersecting
[47:33] streets all over the place. And I think
especially young drivers
[47:38] are not going to know. They're just
going to go through it and think, uh,
[47:40] you know, there's no stop sign there. I
might as well go through it. Just if you
[47:45] want, you give me a call. I'll ride with
you. It's going to take 15 minutes and
[47:49] we'll hit about 50 streets
>> through through the chair.
[47:53] » Maybe the police department can you know
they're out there all the time. You can
[47:57] assign them to make a list.
>> General Poo.
[48:02] » Yes, sir.
>> Do you um
[48:05] do you think you could help us out? You
and uh Captain Joseph B. California.
[48:12] » Uh stop signs.
>> What's that?
[48:15] » Lack of stop signs. lack of stops on on
the tree streets east of Fairon Parkway
[48:20] especially what we noticed I think Todd
brought this up at one time I believe
[48:25] that there's there's seems to be no
stops I didn't realize it until I
[48:30] actually I'm just driving and I'm like
that's the way I go so I'm not really
[48:34] worried about it but after traveling
around it's like gez there's no stop
[48:39] signs any place um could you help us out
the you know with the engineer to just
[48:44] try and look at at some places that you
believe may be uh
[48:51] a good choice for the placement of stop
signs and maybe uh let us know if there
[48:56] have been accidents at the
intersections. I mean maybe we're just
[48:59] you know over regulating things and
we've been accused of that in the past
[49:04] and you know maybe we're guilty of it
but I'd rather have more stop signs than
[49:09] less stop signs uh just for the safety
of our citizens. Just to clarify, you're
[49:13] talking about on the tree streets
between uh Wil like Wilson side tree
[49:18] streets
>> Wilson Wilson and going out to I guess
[49:23] where um
maybe
[49:28] » yeah Skilman Weller Dana all those
Strathmore
[49:32] » all in that in that general vicinity
that I corner it seems like there's
[49:36] there's not there's there's no
intersections that have stop signs.
[49:41] You'd think that that's the intersection
of uh let's see Willow and and um what
[49:49] is it? Skillman and Skilman. You'd think
that, you know, it's it seems obvious
[49:52] that you should stop, but you don't have
a stop sign. All all those streets in
[49:57] that area. I mean, if you want, like I
said, I'm okay,
[50:01] » I'm available if you guys want to take a
a ride along. I'm more than willing to
[50:06] go around and just take a look at it.
Maybe I'm overthinking. wear over here.
[50:10] But like I said, it was just uh when I
thought about it and when I looked at
[50:16] it, I was kind of amazed that there's
not a lot more stop signs. We put speed
[50:20] pumps, you know, every 10 ft sometimes,
but there's no stop signs. So, um the
[50:27] Claremont speed study, do we do speed
studies?
[50:30] » Yes, I have data I can forward to you,
>> but you can get up here and tell us
[50:35] about it.
Travel up.
[50:40] Travel up, my friend, to give us some
data. Take a ride.
[50:47] » Stop doing your fantasy football draft
and come on up here.
[50:50] » Try the B studies.
>> Oh.
[51:13] So, the the studies that were forwarded
to me from the traffic unit were
[51:18] from 2024, which is when these studies
were originally ordered for these areas.
[51:24] You want me to review the data from
that?
[51:27] » From 2024,
>> correct? Don't Didn't we ask for uh
[51:32] studies?
>> I don't I don't have the updated ones.
[51:35] » We say we asked for Samson and Claremont
closer to the diamond. Did were those
[51:40] but the box?
>> I don't have the uh updated ones. I have
[51:44] the data from 2024. I'm waiting on the
updated ones.
[51:49] » Okay. So, I didn't know we did one on
Samson before.
[51:52] » Uh Samson and Claremont are the areas
that you asked around last meeting.
[51:57] » We did that in 2024. Correct.
>> So, okay. Well, since you're here and
[52:03] you got some stuff on your phone, why
don't you let us know what happened in
[52:06] 20124 cuz we have had complaints from
people who reside on those streets in
[52:11] that area.
>> Okay. Uh
[52:15] on Fairmont
>> and again, you know where where it was
[52:19] placed on Claremont because now we're
talk I know the studies were done to
[52:23] Claremont.
>> Okay. February 21st through March 1st,
[52:30] there were 8,798
vehicles analyzed with an average speed
[52:34] of 27 mph.
The fastest recorded speed was 57 mph
[52:41] and the uh traffic was also placed in
front of 140 Claremont
[52:47] for the next study
I have here. That's just folks. Can you
[52:53] tell us based on you living there? 140.
Where would that be? Was that closer to
[52:57] the diner or closer to uh Westminster?
140 by
[53:01] » 40.
Closer to Westminster.
[53:05] » Okay. You're just So you're you're 128.
So it's it's a little Okay. It's a
[53:10] little west of you. Okay. So at 140
Claremont from March 1st to March 11th,
[53:16] there were 14,388
cars analyzed
[53:20] with an average speed of 26 mph with the
fastest speed captured being 64 milesPH.
[53:27] Okay.
>> So the first one you mentioned, can you
[53:31] tell us where in Claremont that one was?
>> The first one was 92 Claremont.
[53:36] [clears throat] So that closer to the
>> closer to Okay. And they're other than
[53:41] the ridiculously high speed you just
mentioned, um they were uh kind of the
[53:47] same. 27 mph, 26 mph
speed.
[53:51] » 27 mph and 26 mph.
>> So just
[53:57] are we doing the study again closer to
the dining room or have we done it? I
[54:03] don't know. We just don't have the back.
>> We haven't completed yet.
[54:06] » You haven't done it yet.
>> It's not completed.
[54:08] » Okay. Okay. So now we'll go to Samson
while you're here.
[54:12] » Samson, uh, from 1113 to 11:24. In 2024,
there were 16,269
[54:20] vehicles.
>> 16,000.
[54:22] » Correct. Uh, with the average speed
being 17 mph.
[54:27] Out of those 16,269
vehicles, there were four total
[54:33] enforceable violations greater than 35
mph.
[54:37] The low speed captured was 7 mph and the
high speed captured was 44 milesPH.
[54:45] » There was also a they called a ghost
reading which could be a a glitch with
[54:49] the radar which could occasionally
happen that show a reading of 114 mph,
[54:54] » but it's likely that that was a a
glitch. It was a a one speed that came
[54:59] up.
>> Fast and furious was being filmed there
[55:03] » during that time frame. Yes.
>> Okay. So, have we have we put the box on
[55:06] the street again?
>> It's just it's full box. So, that's this
[55:10] is something that's been updated now.
We'll have the September meeting.
[55:13] » Maybe by the September meeting. Okay.
Awesome.
[55:15] » Okay. Thank you very much.
Thanks.
[55:22] Okay. Um
congratulations.
[55:28] Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[55:30] uh September 14th at the senior center
talking about seniors uh and senior
[55:34] center uh I believe that's the second
Monday right the 7th is Labor Day so the
[55:41] 14th uh they're going to have a special
uh Bobby Darren
[55:48] uh the person that kind of like is the
biographer for Bobby Darren is going to
[55:52] be there giving a uh a presentation
and uh I know him pretty well because I
[55:59] graduated high school with him and
actually I'm sponsoring it so I'm paying
[56:02] for him so it's not costing a town. Um
so hopefully that'll be well attended.
[56:07] Um picnic uh you know anybody who's got
some ideas about the picnic please let
[56:14] us know. We try and improve the picnic
every year. I know that last year which
[56:20] was the first year we've used a certain
vendor for the food and instead of
[56:24] having an hour and a half wait sometimes
for hamburgers when I got there and I
[56:28] got there a little late um I thought the
picnic was canceled cuz I didn't see
[56:32] anyone at the food at the food places.
They had so many places to get food that
[56:37] there were no lines whatsoever.
I think the ice cream truck maybe had
[56:42] something but the food itself the hot
hamburgers that kind of stuff lines. So,
[56:47] uh, that's one thing that somebody
mentioned to us or referred to us. We
[56:51] looked at it and, uh, we decided to go
that way. Sometimes you, sometimes it
[56:55] works, sometimes it didn't. I think that
it worked. Um,
[57:01] in terms of what Mr. Rodriguez said uh,
about an employee at the podium, my
[57:06] understanding is that there's no
restriction really um, on what somebody
[57:12] says. as the clerk reads. If you say
something that's defamatory, you can be
[57:18] sued. Um, so that's up to the person
that believes that he's or she is being
[57:23] defamed. Uh, but certainly just because
you work for the town does not mean, my
[57:28] understanding, and correct me if I'm
wrong, Mr. Escatino is that because you
[57:33] work for the town, you do not wave your
right to come to a council meeting at
[57:38] the town that you reside and make a
comment that uh might not be uh very uh
[57:46] nice to a particular person. Am I
correct with that?
[57:49] » You're 100% correct. Employees do not
give up their first amendment
[57:52] constitutional right to free speech
because they're employed by the
[57:56] municipality. any employee can come here
at a public meeting and voice their
[57:59] opinion of having on any subject matter
just like any other resident can
[58:05] » uh in regard to Mr. Rodriguez's uh
talking about affordable housing, Mr.
[58:09] Holmes has talked about it. I I do
recall as the mayor had indicated being
[58:15] on the council when that area was
designated for affordable housing. Um it
[58:22] was thought about for a long time uh and
he did indicate something about a sports
[58:29] field. We did talk about that before
there was an agreement for Veterans
[58:34] Field that that area was talked about as
being a place that we might be able to
[58:39] put a recreation facility. Uh also the
uh the area
[58:45] right by Mayo where the Mayo Apartments
are now that was another area that we
[58:49] talked about. So we did have uh
discussions. So I was for one spot, Mr.
[58:54] Sedicates was for another spot, Mr.
Rodriguez was for another spot. Uh but
[58:58] we eventually agreed on Veterans Field
uh for [clears throat] the uh for a
[59:02] recreational facility and we needed to
uh designate in the area for affordable
[59:09] housing related Mr. Ino said we can get
blasted by a builder coming in and
[59:14] putting up 180 units or 240 units to get
our 60 affordable units. So we that
[59:22] place has been empty for years until
we got somebody to put in our affordable
[59:30] housing uh units. I think six or eight
of them. Jimmy, can you tell me which
[59:34] are for developmentally disabled people?
>> Off the top off the top of my head, I
[59:40] believe it's uh 17.
>> Oh, okay. More than I thought. Okay. So,
[59:45] there will be it's in that range.
>> So, even though I say 15 and there's 45
[59:51] just for um um to to work out some
numbers 45 units as opposed to 60. So,
[59:58] so just that being um 15 less or so, uh
that would decrease the amount of
[1:00:04] children that might be going to school.
And again, there were hearings on this,
[1:00:09] many hearings on this. And the
developer, you know, they had their
[1:00:13] studies and everyone thinks because you
put up 40 units and it's two bedrooms
[1:00:18] that you're going to have 80 kids and it
doesn't work out that way. Uh, I forget
[1:00:22] what the numbers were, but when they put
up the apartments next to um where Bob
[1:00:28] Skis was off of Midland Avenue, right by
Route 46 over there, I forget how many
[1:00:32] units there are, but it had minimal or
no impact on the school system. So, they
[1:00:38] they do present studies about how many
kids are projected to be in school. And
[1:00:44] again,
those kids can range from preschool to
[1:00:49] 12th grade. Well,
you got 60 kids, maybe let's say 60
[1:00:55] kids, but they're they're spaced out
between 12 grades and um so it's not the
[1:01:02] overwhelming impact that that some
people uh might think and and the
[1:01:06] numbers, they have statistical data
going back years to show that that's not
[1:01:10] the case.
>> Through the chair, I have others to add
[1:01:13] because one uh during the public
comment, one point was brought up about
[1:01:17] uh communicating with the school
district. I'm sure at the time there
[1:01:20] there were communications but even uh
when uh the site was going through the
[1:01:25] lottery process for um for filling the
the rentals uh I did speak with I myself
[1:01:32] spoke with the school um business
administrator who spoke with the
[1:01:35] superintendent and I off I just told
them that it was that it was going to be
[1:01:39] they were releasing and filling up and I
gave them some of the highle information
[1:01:43] and offered that if they needed any more
information in terms of the actual
[1:01:46] breakdowns of one two and threes and so
on and so forth that you know we of
[1:01:50] course would make available to them and
um to your point the remaining units
[1:01:55] there are a mix of one two and three
bedrooms. So it's not all three bedrooms
[1:01:59] it's probably majority one or two
bedrooms
[1:02:01] » right so there might be a certain number
of that 45 units where there's just uh
[1:02:07] you know one person or two person living
there with with no impact on the school
[1:02:11] system whatsoever. Um and again they
have data that they compile and uh
[1:02:16] that's what they came up I think I think
they actually put a number of what they
[1:02:20] project to be the number of of students
uh from coming from this and
[1:02:25] unfortunately I forget what it was but
it was not it certainly wasn't high it
[1:02:29] wasn't anything that would you know
raise our uh our interest in that and
[1:02:33] say oh my god that's what's going to go
on here this is going to overwhelm our
[1:02:37] school system not at all um we talked
about a lot of it was in close session.
[1:02:42] I just want to tell our our residents,
our friends, our neighbors at Meister
[1:02:46] that we are doing what we can to protect
you, but as Mr. Scino had stated, um
[1:02:54] sometimes
um and I'm rushing into things that
[1:02:58] that's a bad term to use because we've
been talking about this for months. Uh
[1:03:03] however uh things have been brought to
our attention and uh as a group we felt
[1:03:10] that it was in the best interest of the
community including their slice of the
[1:03:16] community to
[1:03:20] take um additional action additional
investigatory action um before we uh we
[1:03:30] do anything and put this to a vote. So,
uh, we're trying not to delay. It's not
[1:03:35] a purposeful delay. It's not an issue
where somebody, um, somebody's got money
[1:03:41] and we're afraid of that person. I mean,
we got money, too. So, uh, it's it's
[1:03:46] it's not that we're bowing down or or,
you know, uh, turning away because
[1:03:52] because of something. That's not
something that that I do. I know that fe
[1:03:56] my fellow members of the council are not
afraid of uh of of you know litigation.
[1:04:03] We're not afraid of being bullied. Um
but uh we all felt in in the close
[1:04:09] session that it was best to go about it
in a different manner. Um we hope to
[1:04:15] have something more concrete very
shortly. But we are working and we we
[1:04:20] are as we always do take the uh the
citizens our residents uh concerns as as
[1:04:26] our number one priority. No one else um
but our citizens. I thank you. I believe
[1:04:32] that we will go into ordinances at this
point.
[1:04:36] Um let's see. We got uh
ordinance amending and supplementing
[1:04:41] chapter 103 of the code of attachment of
Southwork entitled graffiti.
[1:04:47] uh motion to open or to uh I guess to
read read the ordinance. Give it give it
[1:04:54] a first reading. Motion second.
What's that? That's graffiti.
[1:05:01] Oh Jesus. Okay. I'm sorry. That was
table. So we have a it was table the
[1:05:06] last time. Uh motion to untot.
Who did that first? Mr. Mando by a split
[1:05:12] second. Second by Mr. Chair. Uh let's
take a roll call on table. Councilman
[1:05:19] Eric. Yes.
[1:05:23] Uh, Councilman Aldo.
>> Yes.
[1:05:26] » Counciloman Sanchez.
>> Yes.
[1:05:28] » Council Laser.
>> Yes.
[1:05:30] » Council President.
>> Yes. Now, we'll entertain a motion to
[1:05:34] give this a first reading.
>> Motion. Motion by Mr. Akamando. Second
[1:05:38] by Miss Sanchez. Um, let's do a roll
call.
[1:05:42] » Council Garrett.
>> Yes. Councilman Okcomandanda,
[1:05:46] » yes.
>> Councilwoman Sanchez,
[1:05:48] » yes.
>> Councilwoman By,
[1:05:49] » yes.
>> Council President,
[1:05:51] » yes.
>> Please read the res resolution regarding
[1:05:56] passage now. Therefore be resolved by
the township council of township that an
[1:06:00] ordinance amending supplementing chapter
103 of the code of town graffiti here to
[1:06:06] for pass on first reading be further
considered for final passage at meetings
[1:06:10] to be held on September 17th 2026 at 7
p.m. or as soon thereafter as the matter
[1:06:16] can be reached at the municipal complex
55 Mayill Street and that at such time
[1:06:21] and place all persons interested be
given an opportunity to be heard
[1:06:25] concerning set ordinance according to
law with a notice of its introduction
[1:06:29] and passage on first reading and of a
time and place when and where set
[1:06:33] ordinance will be further considered for
final passion to pass on first reading
[1:06:38] motion
>> second major second by Mr. Amaz.
[1:06:42] » Council Garrett,
>> yes.
[1:06:44] » Council Maro,
>> yes.
[1:06:46] » Councilwoman Sanchez,
>> yes.
[1:06:48] » Councilwoman Maser,
>> yes.
[1:06:49] » Council President,
>> yes. Certainly, if anyone has uh wants
[1:06:54] to speak about any of these ordinances,
just when it's your turn to to vote,
[1:06:59] just please uh say that you like to
address the public, address the council,
[1:07:04] address the mayor, address the legal
representative, whoever you want to
[1:07:07] address. Uh next ordinance is uh 1805-26
ordinance amending and supplementing
[1:07:13] chapter 206 with the code of compass
entitled
[1:07:20] motion uh motion give a second read
second motion by Mr. Judge second by Mr.
[1:07:28] Roll. Councilman Garrick,
>> yes.
[1:07:30] » Council Nakamando,
>> yes.
[1:07:33] » Councilwoman Sanchez,
>> yes.
[1:07:35] » Councilwoman Major,
>> yes.
[1:07:36] » Council President Sul,
>> yes.
[1:07:40] » An ordinance amending and supplementing
chapter 26 of the Cota Township of South
[1:07:45] Title Zoning.
Is there a motion to give it a public
[1:07:49] hearing?
>> Motion by Maser, second by Sanchez. All
[1:07:53] in favor? I.
>> Any against? Seeing none, meeting now to
[1:07:59] the public in regard to this ordinance
and this ordinance only.
[1:08:06] Seeing the takers, entertain a motion to
close the motion. Motion by Mr. Aando,
[1:08:11] second by Miss May. All in favor? I
[1:08:17] be resolved by the township council of
the township of Sbrook that the
[1:08:21] ordinance entitled an ordinance amending
and supplementing chapter 206 of the
[1:08:26] code of the township of Srook entitled
zoning must now pass on second final
[1:08:30] reading and that the township clerk be
directed to advertise set ordinance or
[1:08:34] title thereof in press together with the
notice of the date of passage of said
[1:08:39] ordinance according to law. Okay. Is
there a motion to pass on second reading
[1:08:44] motion to adopt this motion?
>> Mr. Gard,
[1:08:46] » second by Miss Sanchez
roll.
[1:08:50] » Council Garrett,
>> yes. Councilman Amanda,
[1:08:54] » yes.
>> Councilwoman Sanchez,
[1:08:56] » yes.
>> Councilwoman Maser,
[1:08:58] » yes.
>> Council President Salu,
[1:09:00] » yes.
>> Okay, we now have the uh
[1:09:05] consent agenda. So resolution number
five is going to be on submissions.
[1:09:14] » All items listed with an asterisk are
considered routine and non-controversial
[1:09:17] by the town of council and will be
approved by one motion. There will be no
[1:09:21] separate discussion on these items
unless a council member so request it in
[1:09:26] which case the item will be removed from
the consent agenda and considered in its
[1:09:29] normal sequence on the agenda. The one
motion signifies adoption of all
[1:09:33] resolutions, receive and file letters,
correspondence, reports, and approval of
[1:09:37] minutes and applications. Resolution
number five to be voted on separately.
[1:09:41] » Okay. Is there a motion?
>> Second.
[1:09:44] » Second motion by Miss Sanchez. Second by
Mer. Um roll.
[1:09:50] » Council Garrett.
>> Yes. Council Ao.
[1:09:54] » Yes. Counciloman Sanchez.
>> Yes.
[1:09:56] » Counciloman M.
>> Yes. Council present.
[1:10:01] » Yes. And resolution number five. Is
there a motion to pass resolution number
[1:10:05] five?
>> Motion.
[1:10:07] Second. Miss Sanchez. Roll call.
Councilman Garrett.
[1:10:14] » Yes. Councilman.
>> Yes.
[1:10:18] » Councilwoman Sanchez.
>> Yes.
[1:10:20] » And council president.
>> Yes.
[1:10:24] Uh next is all business. Usually we do
all business and new business together.
[1:10:28] um something that we haven't spoken
about uh may or anything on your end. I
[1:10:34] I just wanted to thank Thomas Van Winkl
for all the work that he does and he was
[1:10:38] he had a busy month for the junior
police academy. I think he took uh 3,000
[1:10:44] photos. He was with him every day, you
know, 6 days
[1:10:52] car show. He I think he photographed
every national night out police
[1:10:57] promotion to all four of those. He was
here. But thank you Thomas.
[1:11:02] and anybody about stuff we haven't
spoken on yet.
[1:11:06] » Uh I too would like to commend Thomas
and congratulate him on his new
[1:11:11] position.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[1:11:12] » But congratulations to you my friend.
>> Happy to hear it.
[1:11:18] Sanchez. I see a number of notes in
there. You like to say?
[1:11:22] » Not right now.
>> Okay.
[1:11:28] All business. New business.
Good.
[1:11:32] Okay. Uh motion to open the meeting to
the public for agenda items and agenda.
[1:11:36] Second
who said first motion by second by Mr.
[1:11:41] Akamand. All in favor
>> I against seeing none meeting is now
[1:11:46] open the public agenda item agenda item.
[1:11:51] Seeing no customers will consider a
motion to close the meeting to public
[1:11:55] motion by second by Mr. Garrick. All in
favor? I
[1:12:00] » um any last comments before we have a
motion to adjurnn?
[1:12:07] » Okay, take a motion to adjourn. Motion
second. Motion by Maser, second by Mr.
[1:12:13] Aando. All in favor? I good night
everyone.