1 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:07,600 Start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,840 to the flag of the United States of 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,719 America and to the republic for it 4 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:17,359 stands one nation under God indivisible 5 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:29,750 with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Start with the approval of the minutes. 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:39,750 Believe we have June 22. We don't have 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,389 » Okay. 9 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:46,320 Then we're going to move on to what was 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,840 approved by two. So 610 SAG Main Street, 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,600 the installation of driveway gates was 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,160 approved and 182 Townline Road. 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,750 That was approved. 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,799 Moving on to old business 124 skate 15 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:14,310 lane. 16 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:25,510 We move on to 60 Daniels Lane Farm. 17 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Is anyone here from traffic far? 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,670 Mark 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,159 » can you turn on your video and 20 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:36,720 microphone? 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,799 >> Yep, I'm here. 22 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,119 >> Hey Mark, 23 00:01:41,119 --> 00:01:43,600 >> can you get Yeah. Hi. How are you? 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,510 >> Great. We can hear you. 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,799 » We're starting with this. Okay, 26 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:52,960 >> that's what I have. What do you Would 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,560 you like me to call? 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,280 >> No, no, no. That's good. I I'm happy to 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,429 do that. 30 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:03,840 Um, okay. Are we ready? 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,000 >> Yes. 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,239 >> All right. Um, 33 00:02:08,239 --> 00:02:10,720 I want to thank you guys for again for 34 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,400 the opportunity to present. Thank the 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,520 board for that. Um, as we discussed at 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,680 the first meeting, topping farm is an 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,360 important link to Sagoponic's 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,160 agricultural heritage. Um, although its 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,000 primary use is equestrian, it remains an 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,080 active working farm with horses, barns, 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,840 paddics, fields, and open landscapes 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,319 requiring daily year-round care and 43 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,239 stewardship. 44 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:34,400 The permanent farm workers who live and 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,840 work here are essential to that 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,080 operation. Their daily responsibilities 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,440 from caring for the horses to 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,720 maintaining the paddics, fields, 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,120 fencing, and other agricultural areas 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,280 are what allow the property to continue 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,599 functioning as well as maint 52 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:50,720 well-maintaining or as well maintained 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,879 working farm and preserve its pastoral 54 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:54,480 character. The proposed improvements are 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,640 intended simply to provide appropriate 56 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,160 accommodations for these year-round 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,360 members of the farm. Our goal is a 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,640 modest and carefully considered 59 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:04,000 improvement that supports the continued 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,319 agricultural use of topping farm while 61 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,080 respecting its scale, character, and 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,560 historical context. We appreciate the 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,400 board's continued consideration and look 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,480 forward to addressing the proposal with 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,319 you today. 66 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:20,480 Um so this first slide, the red fills 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,879 indicate the um they denote the 68 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:25,519 previously proposed column 69 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:27,360 and additional column requested by the 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,879 board. 71 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,720 Uh the canal lever creates a balance 72 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,879 through openness and lightness. The 73 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,120 gable already has significant visual 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,120 weight and out adding the outer column 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,080 would create greater asymmetry um 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,760 because it's not a true mirror of the 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,080 bench column. 78 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,440 It would also not align with the 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,480 existing column near the bench. As said 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,319 uh the additional column would emphasize 81 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,560 one edge without creating a clear clear 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,040 rhythm. And the canal lever helps offset 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,799 the gable's mass and maintains a cleaner 84 00:03:56,799 --> 00:03:58,560 composition. 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,910 Next slide. 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Uh the orange fill indicates the open 87 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,360 voids for viewing. Um it is our position 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,159 that balance does not require symmetry. 89 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:12,080 It can come from proportions, massing, 90 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,159 materials, and relationships between 91 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,639 elements. 92 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:18,239 Uh the canal lever corners are 93 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:20,239 intentional and integral to the design. 94 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:22,320 The open corners create voids that frame 95 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,400 views and enhance the experience of the 96 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,080 inhabitants, the very people who are 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,240 stewards of this farm. 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Adding columns solely for symmetry would 99 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,320 alter the design intent without 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,160 improving balance and symmetry would not 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 be achieved. 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,230 Next slide. 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,360 So each porch porch here uh includes a 104 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,360 bench oriented towards the fields. The 105 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,400 canal lever creates a shaded open void. 106 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,800 The open corner provides clear views 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,400 towards the fields. The design 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,240 intentionally combines shade, seating 109 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,469 and views. Next slide. 110 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:00,479 Corner columns would reduce the intended 111 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:03,199 open views from the porches. Uh 112 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:04,800 properties with views towards the 113 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,840 porches are more than 500 feet away. 114 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,759 The client supports the open design 115 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,479 which best serves the occupants. Uh pri 116 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,080 prioritizing the farm workers views 117 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,840 towards the field is appropriate we feel 118 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,240 for this project. And the following 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,160 slides illustrate will illustrate the 120 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,280 visual impact or lack of of the proposed 121 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,360 columns from the street. So, if we go to 122 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,400 the next slide, 123 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 so you'll see the distances to uh Gibson 124 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,639 Lane here and to the closest neighbor. 125 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:38,080 Um, and for this western view, 126 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 the red cone, it's hard to see, but it's 127 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,160 there off of Gibson. Um, 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,800 that's going to be our next uh that's a 129 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,189 view in our next slide. 130 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:52,800 You can go to the next slide. Yeah. So 131 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680 that's that's the view from um from from 132 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,919 Gibson. 133 00:05:57,919 --> 00:06:00,160 So that illustrates this illustrates 134 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,919 what we what we showed in plan a second 135 00:06:01,919 --> 00:06:07,909 ago here. So next slide. 136 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:09,440 Um 137 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,600 so you see that's far far enough from 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,000 the from the road here. So the proposed 139 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 sign this is the proposed design is 140 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,840 viewed from approximately 500 feet away. 141 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:25,990 Um 142 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,440 so the next slide you can go to the next 143 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,870 slide 144 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,800 » to also illustrate this. This is the 145 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,560 same view taken under the morning sun 146 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,639 which um with the sun behind the facade 147 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:38,560 in question making the column placement 148 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,670 pretty indistinguishable. Next slide. 149 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Here are the views with the column and 150 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,919 the canal levered corner. uh taken from 151 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:53,990 that west elevation 152 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,759 and this is about 100 feet from the 153 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:58,560 house just as a reference. 154 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,950 Next slide 155 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,919 and these are the views from um I guess 156 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:11,990 well this is the north elevation. Um 157 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 this is about 75 ft with the column 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,039 corner and the canal livered corner. 159 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:24,070 The next slide 160 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,880 and this is the uh proposed um south 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,080 elevation that the board requested. 162 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,840 This is not visible from Daniel's Lane, 163 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080 but this is the the south elevation with 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 the Canterle corner. And the next slide 165 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,589 is with the column. 166 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:43,599 In our view, the added column has little 167 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:46,160 to no visual impact to the neighboring 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,639 properties. 169 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:52,240 Um, and that's that's it. 170 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,720 >> Thank you, Mark. 171 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Being able to compare the drawings with 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,639 and without was extremely helpful for 173 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:00,160 all of you. So, I appreciate that 174 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,120 effort. 175 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,240 >> Great. 176 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,440 >> Does anyone have any thoughts? 177 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,560 >> I have a question. Mark, uh, in your 178 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,319 beginning you said that the client has 179 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:11,120 approved the overall design. Have you 180 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,599 spoken to them directly about the column 181 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:17,759 and are they uh they prefer not having 182 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:19,919 the specific column or is it they just 183 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:23,120 approve the whole design? 184 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,440 >> They approved the design. Um, we didn't 185 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,039 get into detail about the column but 186 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:30,240 they they rely on us to, you know, for 187 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,599 the design and to make that call for for 188 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:34,800 them. Um, 189 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 >> so they're not they're not aware of our 190 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,080 thought to add a column. 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,719 >> I did send them that note. Yes. 192 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:45,279 >> And what did they say? 193 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:49,670 >> They prefer not to have the column. 194 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:57,110 » Thank you. 195 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,120 » Anybody have any thoughts on with or 196 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,760 without? 197 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,160 >> Not really. Yeah, I'm fine without the 198 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,040 column. I'm fine with the column. Either 199 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:12,240 way, it's it works for me. So, whatever. 200 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 >> I think ultimately it's it's the 201 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,959 distance from the view. 202 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:17,760 >> Yeah, 203 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,320 >> I think we the presentation did very 204 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,440 well to conclude that the candle was 205 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,360 superior to it. But again, I just 206 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,389 um 207 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:32,560 » I think no 208 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,560 in light of the fact that it is all 209 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,360 about the view in a in a beautiful 210 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,720 location such as this. I I would it's 211 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,560 such a minor detail I think 212 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,360 architecturally to have the column at it 213 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,200 for the grounding which I thought would 214 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,200 help. I think it does help but I think 215 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 also it's not worth it's not enough 216 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,880 worth sacrificing a view for your for 217 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,600 the people that are inhabiting. So I 218 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,959 think we're all fine here on the board 219 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:01,600 with no column. Uh and again I 220 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,120 appreciate your 221 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,279 >> that motion for us. 222 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:07,200 >> No problem. Appreciate the the 223 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,040 opportunity to present it. 224 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,920 >> Yeah. Okay. So I'll make a motion to 225 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,630 >> second. All in favor? 226 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,160 » Thanks Mark. 227 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,680 >> Okay. Thank you. 228 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:24,150 >> All right. 229 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:33,829 your sinus 230 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:47,110 making sure 231 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,430 we 232 00:10:51,440 --> 00:11:04,630 can do 233 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,710 I promise 234 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:30,949 you. 235 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:49,750 Y 236 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,750 Even if this is 237 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,360 true, 238 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,079 >> it's the way to answer 239 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:01,040 for next time. 240 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,600 >> Yeah. 241 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,160 >> All right, we're moving on to 16 Jacob's 242 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,350 Way. 243 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,079 We're looking at paint colors and 244 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:13,680 chimney 245 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:27,990 in cedar colors. 246 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,399 Hi everyone. My name is Nina Gonzalez. 247 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:32,560 I'm here on behalf of um Miss Frober. 248 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:35,120 She can't be here today. Um we dropped 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,600 off a couple weeks ago uh an updated 250 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,480 rendering inclusive of the exterior trim 251 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,200 color as well as the chimney selection. 252 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Uh I know it was reviewed in the group 253 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,760 of two. Um, and I just wanted to answer 254 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,839 any questions that you may had uh in 255 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:51,519 that regard 256 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,279 because it was brought back from the 257 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:54,560 committee too. 258 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,920 >> I had one question. I went to to see the 259 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,160 uh blue granite map. Um, you guys have 260 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 originally were a medival between the u 261 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,240 blue granite veneer or the gray stuck. 262 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Is that still an either or kind of 263 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,040 situation? No, we have um a property 264 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,120 right down the road uh that the client 265 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,519 tooured that had this exact stone mockup 266 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:18,959 that they fell in love with and they had 267 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:38,790 to 268 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,880 » know it's not always 269 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:51,590 accurate. Okay. 270 00:13:51,600 --> 00:14:01,829 » Did y'all want to see that? 271 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:03,360 See, to me that feels like a more of a 272 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,920 putty color than like a bluestone 273 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,199 granite color. They're 274 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:13,519 looking for a monochromatic feeling, 275 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,310 which I know you are. 276 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,560 This is 277 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,680 Charleston gray. 278 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,199 >> Yeah, I brought a color sample because 279 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:25,279 the colors doesn't always uh translate 280 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:25,680 to 281 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:40,790 >> Yeah, that's really helpful. 282 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 I think that just 283 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,920 if you look at HC or you look at this 284 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:59,750 okay 285 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,880 are you capping it with this this 286 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,720 stone here at the top or will it be 287 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 >> uh that was a sample of the papers for 288 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,230 the porch which was just a thermal boost? 289 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,310 » Anybody have any comments? 290 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,639 » Um the chimney height is going to is it 291 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,600 going to breach the apex of the 292 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,069 >> Yeah. 293 00:15:28,079 --> 00:15:29,519 Can you hear the plants from the other 294 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:34,230 sides of the house? 295 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,560 » This is just 296 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,800 it doesn't look very tall. It looks like 297 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000 it is taller than 298 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,040 have an exterior. 299 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,320 >> I don't believe so. So it might just be 300 00:15:46,320 --> 00:16:19,430 the angle of the but 301 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,000 And you're not doing paint detail around 302 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,680 the windows like you had in the other 303 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,079 slides. It's just that area, nothing 304 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:33,670 else on the house. Okay. 305 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:48,150 Bless you. 306 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:55,590 So it is taller. I was wrong. Yes. 307 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:13,750 » They typically are in this context, but 308 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Okay. Does anybody have any issues with 309 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,360 their plans for the stone coloring? 310 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:28,069 >> No, the stone and the paint. 311 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:29,600 » Okay. Thank you. I'll make a motion to 312 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,679 approve. 313 00:17:31,679 --> 00:17:33,679 >> All in favor? Hi. 314 00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:35,039 >> Thank you all. Have a great rest of your 315 00:17:35,039 --> 00:18:19,909 day. 316 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:35,830 You step 317 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:59,510 This is 318 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:15,669 Thank you. 319 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:32,630 That's 320 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,039 Don't look at the other one. 321 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:51,669 Okay. 322 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:53,440 » Yes. I passed it back this way. I think 323 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:01,029 it's under by your mouse. 324 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,120 » Okay. 325 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,600 All right. We're moving on to 53 Hedges 326 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,280 Lane. An application for Oh, 327 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,160 >> that's a journ. 328 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,960 So, now we're going to move on to 836 329 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:24,870 Second Street. 330 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:39,190 I think where this is on the map. 331 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:50,549 visible 332 00:20:50,559 --> 00:21:07,990 from 333 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,440 » afternoon. Thank you members of the 334 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,360 board for allowing us to present today 335 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,679 for this project. My name is Robert 336 00:21:13,679 --> 00:21:15,039 Treasure from Newman Design 337 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,440 Architectural Office 338 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,070 Treasure T R E D G E R 339 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,440 behalf of the owners Mr. Mrs. Mackey uh 340 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,120 to present this uh revitalization of 341 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:34,400 this existing home. Our proposal is to 342 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 provide new siding, roofing, and a few 343 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840 additional windows. And I can walk you 344 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,120 through the project and an additional uh 345 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,520 front covering to enhance the 346 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,120 architectural elements of the existing 347 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:51,270 home. 348 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,159 On this floor plan, it's represented for 349 00:21:54,159 --> 00:21:56,640 that front entrance, a roof over reverse 350 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,760 gable uh at the front entries. You'll 351 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240 see that in the next few slides. And 352 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,720 then a few expanded second floor deck uh 353 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,360 deck areas to enlarge the area for ex 354 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,590 outdoor use. 355 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,520 Top slide represents the front of 356 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,120 elevation 357 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:23,360 and uh the new siding. Uh we have both 358 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,159 horizontal and vertical siding uh 359 00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:28,720 presented throughout the new throughout 360 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,000 the residence as well as some standing 361 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880 seam roof as an architectural feature on 362 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,799 some of those architectural elements 363 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,200 throughout the the building in the front 364 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,320 over the garage and in the rear areas uh 365 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,280 over some of the master bedroom and and 366 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,230 other living spaces. 367 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,760 That section on the bottom left 368 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,200 represents the addition or additional 369 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 roof area over an existing room that's 370 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:03,350 already existing. 371 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:04,960 These slides represent the existing 372 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 house on the top the way it's as of 373 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320 today. Uh painted siding on the 374 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,640 exterior. The owner wishes to enhance 375 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,720 that with cedar uh with reduh red cedar 376 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,000 roof shingles and uh the Alaskan yellow 377 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,640 cedar for the trim and the siding. And I 378 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,960 have samples here if you like to see as 379 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960 well. 380 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Uh the uh on the right side where we 381 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,280 have the metal standing seam roof that 382 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,280 will be a dark bronze standing seam roof 383 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,960 color to blend in with the um the color 384 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,430 palette that we have. 385 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,000 This, as you can see on the bottom slide 386 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,120 on the left, uh we removed the roof. 387 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,640 We're proposing to remove some of the 388 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,880 roof area that is as depicted on the top 389 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,720 uh elevation uh to bring in a cable rail 390 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960 system to open up the views to the 391 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,880 backyard. 392 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,039 That would be on the that um room along 393 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,440 the top as you see there. And then a 394 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,159 small area on the rear end of one of the 395 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:19,029 bedrooms. 396 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,039 So if anyone has any questions or 397 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:34,149 comments, I'd be happy to ask. 398 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:36,159 What's the material on the roof on the 399 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:38,640 bottom left there? 400 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,559 >> The bottom left that is the standing 401 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,799 seam metal roof. 402 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:45,440 Uh like a dark bronze color. 403 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,039 >> And you have samples of that? 404 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,120 >> I do not have samples, but it it depicts 405 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,760 the same color as the rendering uh for 406 00:24:51,760 --> 00:25:00,710 that particular product. 407 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Is there another reason for that being 408 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,600 metal versus like the others other than 409 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,919 aesthetics? Just out of curiosity? 410 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:09,440 >> Yeah, we wanted to enhance the 411 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,159 architectural of the the the residence 412 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:14,559 existing residence and bring it up to a 413 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:19,200 nice format um of what the um what we'd 414 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,760 like to see in the building. As you you 415 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,480 look on the I guess the slide prior, it 416 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,559 does balance off between the uh 417 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:31,039 different roof elevations throughout the the building. 418 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,360 Those are enhanced rooms and we wanted 419 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,559 to give a little more uh architectural 420 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:44,789 element to it. 421 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,600 » Is this an old one? 422 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:56,390 >> That looks like an old 423 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,159 side. 424 00:25:58,159 --> 00:25:59,520 >> Each side of what? I'm sorry. uh each 425 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,320 side of the home 426 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,440 >> the calculations for the 427 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,919 >> uh I do not the only the existing 428 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:09,360 glazing we're going to be replacing some 429 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,919 of the windows uh the only glazing that 430 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:15,279 we're changing is the front windows uh 431 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,039 by the entrance to the right of the 432 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:19,600 entrance back 433 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520 that 434 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,600 if you see on the top slide right next 435 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 to the left of the garage 436 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,880 uh there are small two little windows 437 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,279 about looks like 8 in high or 8 in 438 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,760 square. And we're adding a few taller 439 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,039 windows in that section just next to to 440 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,159 the left of the garage. 441 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:42,400 That's the those are the only additional 442 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,480 wind as opposed to also the front 443 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,799 entrance window. If you see right above 444 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,159 the uh center where that reverse gable 445 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:51,039 is pronounced 446 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,799 >> in the rear, that's the rear. 447 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:53,600 >> That's the front, 448 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,440 >> right? But there are changes in the 449 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,029 rear. 450 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,120 But but wise there are no additional 451 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,600 windows if that's what you were asking 452 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,830 in the rear. 453 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:18,230 windows would just be 454 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,440 uh in the front to uh right above the 455 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,880 entrance door uh behind 456 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,679 sort of uh 457 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:32,480 table there. Um is that a outdoor space? 458 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,799 >> Uh directly next to the entry store. 459 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,400 >> Yeah. Uh directly above the second 460 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,640 floor. 461 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,440 >> On the second floor. 462 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,279 >> Oh yes. That it's not an outdoor space. 463 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,960 It's an interior space. It's basically 464 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,159 an expansion of an existing room uh to 465 00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:45,760 with a reverse gable. It already has a 466 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 sloped roof in the room. So, we're 467 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840 proposing to put a reverse to 468 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,480 >> Oh, so this is a sort of a shed shed 469 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,000 dorm room. 470 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,240 >> Uh look at the top photo you can see on 471 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320 the like towards the left. That's what 472 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,679 it looks like currently where it just 473 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:05,669 sheds down is a that type of roof. 474 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:07,760 » Are there windows there? It's like a 475 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,840 wall. Uh there are no windows uh on that 476 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,240 center section. Feel like I could walk 477 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:21,269 up to the screen if 478 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,440 » So this is the front entrance area. 479 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240 That's the front door. And this roof is 480 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 the proposed just a reverse gable over 481 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,159 the top of this area. 482 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:33,200 >> Oh, no. Right to the left of it. 483 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 >> This no in between 484 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,279 >> above. 485 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,120 >> That's existing. This little guy. 486 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,159 >> Yeah, that's existing. 487 00:28:40,159 --> 00:28:41,039 >> What room is that? 488 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:41,440 >> Uh, 489 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,159 >> is that is that a dormer shed out or is 490 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:45,440 it an indentation? It's hard to tell. 491 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360 >> It's an indentation, but I don't know 492 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,000 what room it is exactly in that area. 493 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,149 >> It does not. 494 00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:59,120 » I don't think it's a storage room, but I 495 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 know it was set back just like it's 496 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:13,750 um there's another photo. 497 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,120 It's not a window. 498 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,640 >> No, it's not a window. 499 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,080 >> It's just a wall. 500 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,919 >> Yeah. 501 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:23,120 >> Why? I wonder why it was like that. 502 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240 >> I also feel like I I don't We don't have 503 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720 all the plants. I don't I don't see two 504 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120 other sides of the house 505 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,039 >> to look at. I think we'd be able to 506 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:38,789 tell. 507 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,880 I mean for renderings and existing 508 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,799 photos we have south 509 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,520 >> I don't know you could go open the uh 510 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,120 elevations if it's not on the renderings 511 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,640 I think we have three renderings of the 512 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,799 building um there's another side 513 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,720 we could I could show you that on the 514 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,120 elevator 515 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,840 >> we have a west elevation 516 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,080 >> A7 517 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:14,310 I say 518 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080 A3 519 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:23,269 side of the uh 520 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:45,190 on the bottom. 521 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760 Did you asking percentages? 522 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,440 >> Yeah, we don't doesn't have any blazing 523 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,230 percentage. 524 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,600 » I think we need a little bit more 525 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,399 information. 526 00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:01,919 >> Okay. 527 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,000 >> We would love to see what the glazing 528 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480 percentage is of the existing house and 529 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,559 then a new glazing 530 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,600 percentage for the plants that you have 531 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000 and then if it's possible not too much 532 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,559 to ask the rendering of the east and 533 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,080 west sides 534 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,279 >> we have a west side 535 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:20,880 >> there's a west elev 536 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720 >> I mean elevations we have 537 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,320 >> uh the rendering is 538 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,080 >> the last page 539 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,470 >> the west 540 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,320 sorry 541 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,600 >> you like to see an east uh render 542 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:46,389 all sides 543 00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:48,320 and the glazing differences. 544 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 >> Yes, I will uh 545 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,559 have that calculated and then like I 546 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,279 mentioned there's two windows basically 547 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,590 where I 548 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600 feel like there's more but it's just 549 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320 hard to see with the before and after 550 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,799 photos. Um, when I look at every before 551 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,880 and after, 552 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,159 I feel like there are differences. 553 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:15,679 Um, 554 00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:17,840 >> but regardless, just to know what that 555 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,559 difference is. 556 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:19,440 >> Absolutely. 557 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,200 >> Um, in general, I mean, I think you 558 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,720 know, 559 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,799 >> I think you've done a good job of 560 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,159 updating this home. Where is the house 561 00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:30,960 built? 562 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,799 >> I'm not sure exactly, but I know it's a number of years. It's 563 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:41,269 >> 80s, I believe. 80s 564 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,440 » from an 80s house to the makeover. I'd 565 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,039 say it's 566 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,080 >> the land of tea house. It's nice to see 567 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,360 some lay hands. 568 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440 >> Right. Right. 569 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440 >> That's a question about the plantings 570 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,320 around it because where sit when you go 571 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,159 in the driveway, their houses on either 572 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:02,320 side and it's rimmed in I guess privet 573 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600 or something. So when you plan to build 574 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,240 it, you'll just go right in the driveway 575 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,080 and remove any of the of the trees or 576 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,200 anything just 577 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120 >> There was no indication to me that they 578 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,360 were going to remove, but we could 579 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200 definitely speak to that. I I'll ask 580 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600 again if there was any 581 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000 three or four houses in that area that I 582 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,760 think you could disrupt them. 583 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,750 >> Oh, if they remove 584 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,720 mention of that. 585 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,159 Yeah. 586 00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:36,399 The only other comment I think I'd make 587 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:39,840 is maybe consider not glass for the 588 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:47,029 garage doors. 589 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,120 Yes, that was to bring up a little bit 590 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,399 of more contemporary feel to the uh the 591 00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:54,559 design of 592 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,399 um 593 00:33:56,399 --> 00:33:59,200 I think the garage we're facing the side 594 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,279 with a lot of you know screening maybe 595 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,200 but I think you know we leave the lights 596 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240 on and it's tidy in there and it's a lot 597 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,079 of extra glazing that we don't maybe is 598 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,560 not the place where you want to have use 599 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,159 those numbers. U that's just a request 600 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,960 from myself personally. 601 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,720 And then if you could come back to us 602 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,079 with the color of the trim 603 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,679 seems 604 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,480 I know renderings are the color would 605 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,040 all be the same material. So there was 606 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,679 this is white 607 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,000 and yellow feeder with the trim and 608 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,200 >> so it's not paint. 609 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,879 >> No 610 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:43,270 it'll blend in. Okay. 611 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,159 What else I need comments? 612 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,560 >> I mean, still a little confusion with 613 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,320 the roof lines and the facade, but it 614 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,639 not from the historical preservation 615 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,240 committee. That doesn't make a 616 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:59,599 difference. Um, no, I think I think it's 617 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,240 again it's commendable that we have a 618 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,079 lot of people tearing things down, 619 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,280 right? 620 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440 >> Understood. But it's nice to see this 621 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,079 and 622 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:09,440 >> yeah, they love the house. They just 623 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920 wanted to upgrade it to uh bring it to a 624 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,359 nice architectural element. 625 00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:15,920 >> And normally we do like continuity of of 626 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,480 uh roof structure, but here it does 627 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480 actually help I think break it up and 628 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,240 >> Right. 629 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,310 >> I agree. 630 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 So do you have a clear picture of what 631 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,280 we need for next round? Yes, I've taken 632 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,240 some notes and I will provide uh some 633 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,560 information and some feedback from 634 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,880 ownership if we need to and and our our 635 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,000 office. 636 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,640 >> That' be great. 637 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,280 >> Thank you so much. 638 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:58,950 >> Thank you. That was very 639 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:09,430 second. paper. 640 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,240 Okay. To the driveway gates at 511 641 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:30,950 Daniel. 642 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,480 Good afternoon. My name is Shannon 643 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,320 Bradley and I'm the owner of Hampton's 644 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,079 Permit and Expediting which is located 645 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,560 at 16 Window Lane in Southampton, New 646 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,200 York. I'm here today representing STEM 647 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,599 Partners LLC in connection with an 648 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,359 application before the Syoponic 649 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:47,760 Architectural Review Board for approval 650 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,640 of a proposed automatic driveway gate 651 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,079 for 511 Daniels Lane, Sagoponic, New 652 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,640 York. Proposed gate will be set 653 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,280 approximately 40 ft from the roadway. It 654 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,920 will be constructed of western red cedar 655 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,200 S4S vertical grade material and will be 656 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,359 approximately 4 ft in height and 16 ft 3 657 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:12,320 in in width. The gate will attach to two 658 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440 8 in posts, one on each side, which will 659 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,560 also be construction of Western. 660 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,640 As part of this application, I have 661 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040 provided the most updated survey showing 662 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,960 the proposed location of the automated 663 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,960 driveway gate along with a color 664 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,280 rendering of the gate and a drafted shot 665 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,359 drawing illustrating the dimensions, 666 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:34,160 columns, footings, control panel, and 667 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,800 keycap. The gate has been designed by 668 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,720 East End Automation, which is a company 669 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,200 that has designed and installed numerous 670 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200 gates 671 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,280 within the village of Sanaponic. East 672 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,960 End Automation is familiar with the 673 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,520 design standards standards material 674 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,920 expectations and building code 675 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,240 requirements applicable to automated 676 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,240 driveway gates in the village. The 677 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,079 proposed scheme has been designed to be 678 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,000 cohesive with the character of the 679 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,599 neighborhood while maintaining a high 680 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,920 level of quality and workmanship. The 681 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,680 use of western red cedar and the 682 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,680 proposed scale are intended to 683 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,680 complement the surrounding property and 684 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520 remain consistent with Sagoponic's 685 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,560 architectural expectations. I appreciate 686 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,320 the board's time and attention to this 687 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,240 application and I'm happy to answer any 688 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,119 questions. 689 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,520 >> Thank you. 690 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,079 for paying attention to the 691 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,040 style guide to the gates and if you 692 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960 could maybe just go back to the 693 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920 overview. Yes. Can you point to us where 694 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,079 the gates going and show and tell us if 695 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,680 there are other gates already existing 696 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,320 on the 697 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,920 >> There aren't other gates already 698 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,800 existing and it should be 40 ft long. 699 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,599 >> Yes, there are. 700 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,200 >> There are gates. Sure. 701 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680 >> At the main entrance as you come back to 702 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,440 the one where the residential part of 703 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,320 the property starts, 704 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040 >> but not Okay. The 40 ft in is where the 705 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,800 proposed. So, 706 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,400 >> and at the end of that flag when you 707 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,520 come back towards the house, there's 708 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,960 another driveway 709 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,520 >> here, right? 710 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,160 >> Yeah. 711 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,480 >> Okay. So, I I misunderstood the 712 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,520 question. I thought you meant off the 713 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680 roadway. I apologize. So, off the 714 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,520 roadway, this is the gate that they're 715 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,200 proposing. And the reason that it's 40 716 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560 ft back, it says per code, any lot over 717 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,960 40,000 square feet has to have a 718 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200 driveway accessory gate set back 40 719 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,079 instead of 20. So that's basically what 720 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,040 we're proposing. Um re placed on the 721 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,920 survey so that we meet that minimum. 722 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,720 Okay. And what is the need for the gate? 723 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,480 >> Uh they stated privacy. Uh they wanted 724 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,720 the gate for security and privacy. It's 725 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,240 really 726 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,839 basically the only reasons that they 727 00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:38,160 stated 728 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,760 >> need a a solid reason and it's hard to 729 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400 find a reason that the other gate 730 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,920 doesn't already sort of fulfill the 731 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,960 needs of 732 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920 >> I guess from the roadway with all the um 733 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,960 I mean there's just such an influx of 734 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960 vehicles and traffic and whatnot more 735 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,720 than what any of us are used to in this 736 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,640 area especially I mean I grew up out 737 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,480 here and it's just something that they 738 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,839 really want on a request from you know 739 00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:07,839 request approval for. So it does it does 740 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:09,599 serve a different purpose than the gate 741 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:16,069 that's so far in. 742 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:17,839 I do have to say and I don't know but 743 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:20,720 there are a lot of other I don't like to 744 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,079 compare and I don't like to give out 745 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,079 addresses but there are a lot of other 746 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,800 gates on by um Daniel's path that are 747 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,760 located in the exact location that this 748 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,680 gate is being proposed. Um it is with 749 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040 very nice material. Next, definitely. 750 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,000 >> And those gates, are they with open 751 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,400 fields or are the gates that you're 752 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,119 referring to kind of behind uh greenery? 753 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,359 >> At this time, what we're proposing is 754 00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:51,920 all open. If you would prefer screening, 755 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,599 we could 756 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:57,200 >> the president the gate precedence 757 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920 near there. I don't see any gates at 758 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,079 least with the open fields. Uh, 759 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:05,680 I really don't want to compare to other 760 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,079 houses, but there are other there's five 761 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,510 that I could 762 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,400 has a bunch of 763 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,880 >> but that's got trees in front. So there 764 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,000 this property I I know there 765 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,359 >> because of the beautiful um wild flowers 766 00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:26,400 and things like that that they plant. 767 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560 It's a different look in that specific 768 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,640 location. Not saying it's bad or good, 769 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,760 but I think we should be realistic that area will change with those gates, 770 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,560 >> right? I do I do think I mean my 771 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,880 personal opinion is that the standards 772 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,040 that you put forth already in your code 773 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,319 to help preserve the beauty of the 774 00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:48,319 property. It's the opakeness and 775 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,040 openness that you guys command in your 776 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520 code, the height restriction, a lot of 777 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920 things that you already prepare for that 778 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,760 people need definitely helps. not block 779 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,760 beautiful views. So that's the only 780 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,520 thing I could speak to for that. But 781 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680 it's really we're here to see what your 782 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,760 thoughts are and see if you would, you 783 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,000 know, prove it's 784 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,480 take any any comments and there's 785 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,920 anything at all that we could do 786 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480 differently. Definitely 787 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,800 would like to hear it. I mean, I think 788 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,839 in this area and in this case, you know, 789 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:26,160 there are probably a lot of, to use 790 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,760 term, looks, 791 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,920 >> right? People who want to see it closer, 792 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,079 right? And I'm sure that's what they're 793 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:32,640 trying to 794 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,240 >> There's a lot. Yes. 795 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,200 >> Not have happened. 796 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,800 >> Okay. Um, so I think 797 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,560 you know 798 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,839 the two gate thing is not what we would 799 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:47,119 really prefer 800 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,640 but I do understand the circumstances. 801 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,079 Does anybody have any other thoughts? 802 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,680 >> I feel like if we're trying to avoid 803 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040 precedence of gates then having a 804 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,839 president of two gates means that 805 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:02,319 especially one at 40 ft would serve as 806 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:05,839 more of an amorphous buffer to specific 807 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:08,720 uh pet, kids, that kind of thing. 808 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:09,359 >> Yeah. 809 00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:12,000 >> Um 810 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,160 you know, could I argue that my 8 foot 811 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,480 driveway I want a gate because it's wide 812 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:24,550 enough for every corner doing the turn. 813 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,720 » But by code, it meets where it needs to 814 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,680 be. The code is set up and this is not 815 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,440 it's just 20 ft. off of any lot less 816 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,640 than 1,000 square ft and maybe 817 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040 >> maybe you're correct. Maybe I'll make a 818 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,119 suggestion then to move their existing 819 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,319 gate. 820 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:43,359 >> Okay. 821 00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,760 >> That way we wouldn't be setting up the 822 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,000 two gates are okay. Um how does anybody 823 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 feel about 824 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,040 that? Not that 825 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,359 >> also it seems maybe 100 to 150 feet in. 826 00:43:57,359 --> 00:43:58,480 Uh, I'm not sure if it's really help 827 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,079 that much, but there is already an 828 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,000 existing sort of uh turnout area. 829 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,640 >> Okay. 830 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,359 >> Um, so maybe 831 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:08,640 >> Yeah. I'm not sure that makes it much 832 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,920 better seeing a gate off of the 833 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,640 distance. 834 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880 >> It does actually 835 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,079 farther away. 836 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,760 >> Yeah. 837 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,920 >> So then maybe moving it not to 40 feet, 838 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,839 but moving it to where Tony said there's 839 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:21,599 a turn around. 840 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,960 >> So how far you could give like how far 841 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,800 Can I go back up? Yeah. How far would 842 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,000 you want it? Moved in so 843 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,160 >> I didn't take a picture of it. Um, but 844 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,280 there's already an existing um sort of 845 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,760 uh towards the west side of the uh of 846 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,119 the driveway. Okay. 847 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:41,119 >> There's a little indentation a little uh 848 00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:42,480 almost like 849 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,040 >> circular area where there's existing 850 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,680 more asphalt looks like for someone to 851 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,119 turn a truck around. 852 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:50,640 >> Okay. And one of the big things is is 853 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,520 when someone approaches a gate um you 854 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,920 know say an unrequited 855 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,720 uh UPS guy comes he's backing out there 856 00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:59,760 and that's 857 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,319 >> so to be able to have a way for him to 858 00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:04,560 go in and turn around and come back. 859 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680 >> Okay. So more width to be able to move 860 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920 understand that point completely. Okay. 861 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:20,069 So 862 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:20,880 » thoughts on 863 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,760 >> So you're just you're just you're saying 864 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,280 push the gate further back but still but 865 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,079 that other gate still going to be there? 866 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:31,200 >> No, 867 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,720 >> I don't think we want two gates. I don't 868 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,440 think we should allow two gates uh as a 869 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,440 president. And I think well I understand 870 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,520 the situation. They don't want people 871 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680 driving all the way down to look into 872 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,839 their land where they're living. 873 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,040 >> That's basically 874 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,720 >> and I I completely understand that. And 875 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,960 so I just think not that we want to gate 876 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,480 in the middle of nowhere, right? I mean 877 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,920 it certainly probably makes more sense 878 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,720 toward the street. 879 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,560 >> Would you like influencers where there's 880 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,000 wild flowers are out or there's just 881 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,680 people getting lost? I 882 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,560 >> mean anybody like wanting to 883 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,640 >> Yeah, they like to apparently drive in 884 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,560 and then get as close as they can which 885 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,960 is the gate. it's further in and then 886 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,920 they they really do they they impede 887 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,400 themselves onto other people's property 888 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,880 and just say it how it is and then you 889 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,599 know turn around and leave the property. 890 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,240 So these particular homeowners wanted to 891 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,920 see if they could put a second gate 892 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,400 closer to the road and you know prevent 893 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,520 that from happening. So I I mean I guess 894 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520 it's happening a lot enough to be able 895 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,440 to have me come here and request this 896 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,440 from Yeah. 897 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,550 understand. 898 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,520 Yeah, I agree. I think push back a bit, 899 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,440 which is good. I think it's still open, 900 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,760 but still be able to see it. 901 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,240 >> Okay. 902 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,880 >> I can see the gate at their house kind 903 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,000 of now back there, but I I understand 904 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000 it's not that easy to see. 905 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,990 >> Okay. 906 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,599 » So, I would agree with um this gentleman 907 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,359 here. Okay. 908 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:06,640 >> Where they can turn around because 909 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,240 otherwise they have to back all the way 910 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,920 up which 911 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,760 >> Yeah. There was a turning spot there. 912 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,440 >> Yeah. And they still be able to see it 913 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,440 clearly 914 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,309 which is losing the gate or 915 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:26,870 it's not the building. 916 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520 » I'm surprised they go down there. 917 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,160 >> I know. 918 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,599 >> I'm really surp I've never seen car. 919 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,599 Yeah. No, I hear you. I'm not I'm not 920 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,920 challenging. I'm just 921 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,200 >> nothing more embarrassing than back 922 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,760 windows. 923 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,760 >> So, the two things that I'm coming back 924 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,920 with would be to move the gate to a more 925 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,359 open with area where the turnound is 926 00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:51,440 >> and definitely to remove the second 927 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:51,920 gate. 928 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,480 >> Yes. 929 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,870 >> Okay. 930 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,599 Understand. Is there any is 931 00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,160 everything else okay? Design good. 932 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,760 >> Design's good. Thank you so much. 933 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,640 >> All right. Thank you. 934 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,599 >> Thank you. 935 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,040 >> Nice to be here. Have a good day. 936 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,550 >> You too. 937 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,079 » So, I'll make a motion to adjourn. 938 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:19,510 >> Second. 939 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:43,910 Stand up on the darest. 940 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,109 » Yeah. 941 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:51,349 See how we close. 942 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:53,200 » So we'll 943 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,359 select our committee of two for 944 00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:01,510 September 945 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520 » committee of September. 946 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,640 >> Is anybody want to volunteer? Do you 947 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:13,670 want to do 948 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,880 » I don't think we have anything. We don't 949 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,240 have anything yet, but sometimes they 950 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,760 come up in the middle and they're simple 951 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,920 one. 952 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,839 >> All right. And our next meeting date is 953 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:28,069 September 28th at noon. 954 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:29,280 » Anybody need a public hearing on 955 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,520 anything before we close? 956 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,240 >> Okay. All right. Make a motion to 957 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:37,040 meeting. Second. All in favor? Hi. 958 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,040 >> Hi.