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Good evening everyone. Welcome to the

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regular meeting of Tuesday, September 1,

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2026.

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Before adopting the agenda, we will discuss

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administration and legislation. Item 3.8, 8th meeting

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of the council of October 2026, the nominator,

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Ms. Nadine Nolet, will adopt the agenda. At item 3,

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I will give the floor to Ms. Nadine

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Nolet for administration and

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legislation.

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Good evening everyone. 3.1

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Filing of the statement of results

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of the budget as of

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31, 2026. The Director General files

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the statement of results of the budget as of 31.

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3.2 Saint-Élisabeth Parish of Lebinière

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renewal advertisement in the

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parish bulletin. It is proposed to authorize

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a non-taxable amount of $280

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for the renewal of an advertisement

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in the parish bulletin of the

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Saint-Élisabeth parish of Lobinière. that the

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funds necessary for this expenditure be

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taken from the budget code of another

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body. Please,

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Plains Snowmobile Club

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grant application. It is proposed to authorize an

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amount of $4612 plus taxes to

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participate in the purchase of a culvert

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for the Plains Snowmobile Club,

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which will be installed on the territory

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of the municipality. The funds

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required for this expenditure will be taken from

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the budget code of another organization.

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proposer please by madam

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3.4 regulation 6284

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excuse 08 26 amending regulation 612

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04 26 concerning the internal management of the

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meetings of the council of the municipality of

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Saint-Agapi.

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Whereas the municipality has adopted by-

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law 6120426

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concerning the internal governance of

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council meetings. Whereas

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the municipal council deems it

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necessary to amend by-law

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6120426

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concerning the internal management of

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council meetings in order to

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provide clarifications relating to

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the content of questions to be asked during

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question periods.

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This period has a maximum duration of

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30 minutes. Each speaker has

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a maximum of 2 minutes to

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ask these questions.

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It is proposed that regulation 624 08

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26 amending regulation 612 0426

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concerning the internal management of meetings

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be and is adopted.

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A nominator please, nominated by

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Mr. Bernard Breton.

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3.5 Resolution of agreement and

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short term relating to a

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bond loan in the amount of

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$5,435,000 which will be realized on September 16,

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2026.

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Whereas in accordance with the

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following loan bylaw and for the amounts

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indicated opposite each of them, the

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municipality of Saint Agapie wishes to

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issue a series of bonds, namely

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one bond per maturity for a

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total amount of $5,435,000

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which will be realized on September 16, 2026

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distributed as follows.

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So the one for loan settlement number

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4910121

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which refers to the fire station

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for an amount of

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$873,000. By-

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law number 305410

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which refers to the

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multi-purpose center

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in the amount of $1,197,000;

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number 304021

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for the repair of Olivier

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Pouliop and College streets in the amount of

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$202,700; number 302 01110

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in reference to the

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Arna refrigeration system $120,500;

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number 2660208

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in reference to the construction of new

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Vachon development streets in the

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amount of

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$65,800; number 558

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reference to work to improve the capacity of

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the wastewater treatment plant

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in the amount of $1,636,000;

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and by-law number 578

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in reference to the expansion of

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the arena and the purchase of the

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ice resurfacer for

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$1,340,000. Given that

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the loan regulations should be amended

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accordingly. Whereas, in

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accordance with the first

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paragraph of article 2 of the Act respecting

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municipal debts and loans for the

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purposes of this bond issue and

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for loan regulations

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number 305 041

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01 558 04 24 and 578 12 24, the

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municipality of Saint-Agép wishes to

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issue for a shorter term than

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that originally fixed in its

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regulations.

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that the bonds be signed by

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the mayor and the clerk-treasurer or in

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his absence the

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assistant clerk-treasurer, the municipality of this agapi,

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as permitted by law, has mandated the

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CDS to act as

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authenticating financial agent and the

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bonds will come into force

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only when they have been

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authenticated.

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With regard to the

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annual capital repayments planned for the years

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2032 and following, the term provided for

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in loan regulations number 305

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shorter than that originally fixed, i.e.

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for a term of 5 years from

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16 September 2026 instead of the

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term prescribed for the 10

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repayments. Each

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subsequent issue must be for the balance or

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part of the balance due on the loan.

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Take a proposal

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put forward by

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Mr. Pierre Odess.

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3.6 Authorisation to submit an application for

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recognition as a

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child-friendly municipality. Given

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the will demonstrated and the

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steps taken by the

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municipality to become a

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child-friendly municipality. It is proposed

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to authorise and approve the submission to the designated

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space containing the application file

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for obtaining recognition as a

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child-friendly municipality. to

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confirm that Mr. Marc-Antoine

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Drouin and Ms. Alicia Deschin are

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the bearers of the

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child-friendly municipality file. That the Director

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General, or in his absence the

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Deputy Director General, be authorized to

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sign the documents necessary for this

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purpose.

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to formally confirm the commitment

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of the municipality, to appoint the

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municipality to put in place within

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3 years the three commitments

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contained in the 10 application files

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for the recognition nae

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proposer please proposed by

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Mr.

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3.7 7 municipal council authorization to

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pay to Weblexex Design for the

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renewal of the annual subscription to

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the paperless council interface. It is

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proposed to authorize the payment of

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$4184 and 42 cents plus tax to Weblex

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design for the renewal of

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the annual subscription to the

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paperless board interface. That the funds

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necessary for this expenditure are themselves within

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the budgetary code, the right to use

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software.

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A motion, please, proposed by

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Mr. Marcine Dr 3.8,

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municipal council, modification of the date of the

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October meeting, given that

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resolution 2025 11 443 adopting the

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schedule of regular

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council meetings for the year 2026 must be

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modified due to a scheduling conflict

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with the provincial elections. It is

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therefore proposed to change the date of the

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October municipal council meeting, originally scheduled for

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Monday, October 5, and to move it to

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Tuesday, October 16, due to a scheduling conflict

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with the

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provincial elections.

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A nominator please, proposed by

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Mrs. Nadine Dolin. Thank you, Ms.

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Nadienne.

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THANKS. At point 4 to the urban planner, Ms.

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Manon Provanger.

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Yes, good evening everyone. Uh 4.1

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authorize the

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urban planning technician to issue

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permits and certificates and to apply

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urban planning regulations.

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It is proposed to appoint Ms.

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Jacinte Lourneau as

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municipal inspector responsible for the application

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of by-law number 25407.

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Uh, it is proposed to authorize her in

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the exercise of her duties to carry out

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inspections throughout the

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territory of the municipality, analyze

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applications for permits and certificates,

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issue or refuse permits and

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certificates in accordance with the

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applicable regulations and issue

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any notice of offence or statement

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of offence in the name of the municipality. to

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signify any formal notice to order

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the termination of any use, construction,

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work or work carried out in

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contravention of municipal regulations

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to authorize Ms. Jacin les Tourneau to

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affix her handwritten or

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electronic signature on the permits,

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certificates and other documents which

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is authorized to issue, as well as to

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access municipal digital systems

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when required in

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the exercise of their function. that

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this resolution remains in force

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until replaced or superseded

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by a subsequent resolution of the

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council; replaces any

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prior resolution on the

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same subject matter.

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A proposal, please, put forward by

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Mr. Sylvain Vidal.

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The 4.2 is exactly the same case

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but it's for Mr. Clément Drolet.

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Well, for him it's like an

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update. So, it is proposed to

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appoint Mr. Clément Drolet as

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municipal inspector and to perform

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exactly the same functions as I

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have numbered for my for Mrs.

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Jacinte les Tourneaux. Uh, that's it.

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Proposer, please. Proposed by

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Mr. Pierre Odes.

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Uh, 4.3 is the final rule.

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It is then proposed that regulation

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618 0726 amending

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zoning regulation 251 110 117 aimed at modifying the

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boundaries of zones R102 107 108 and R12,

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creating zones P71 and R13 113 and adjusting

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the maximum number of dwellings in zones

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R112 R107 R108 R109 R112 and R13 be

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proposer please,

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this is all the changes for

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the su

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proposed by Mr. Bernard Breton

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in 4.4, uh, it is the subject of a

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public meeting later at 7 p.m. Uh,

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for this regulation, before

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adopting it, I must specify that there are

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corrections that have been made

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for this second regulation.

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simply because the first draft

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regulation was

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missing a paragraph. It's just a

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technical question about

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who was missing some sentences and it doesn't change the

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regulations. That's the fact that this is

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point 4.4. It

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is then proposed that the second draft

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regulation, uh 6220 08 26, amending

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zoning by-law 2517,

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aimed at modifying the standards governing

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parking lots and at regulating the

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height of garages and sheds in

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proportion to their ground area,

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be adopted.

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a proposal please proposed by

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Mr. Pierre

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on 4.5 5

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[clears throat] uh yes

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, that too is final settlement. Uh,

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it is proposed that Regulation 623826

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amending Regulation 25407 concerning the

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management of urban planning regulations

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in order to modify the fee rates

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for the issuance of

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main building permits for

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residential use be adopted.

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Proposer please,

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proposed by Mrs. Nadine Nolet

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on 4.6 6 on Saint-Luc. Adoption of

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toponymic toponyms for new streets in

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development. Whereas the

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municipality of this city wishes to

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formalize the names of the new streets

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and a new park in the territory.

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Whereas the choice of names

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is made to preserve the

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memory of families associated with

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the history and development of this

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church.

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It is then proposed that the

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streets and the new park be named with the

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following odonienmes.

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The street names are rue Bourgau, avenue

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Métot, Avenue Djou, Avenue Odest, rue

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Massicotte and Avenue Lafame. And as for the

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park, it's the hard park. Before concluding

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the proposal, I will let Mr.

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Odest

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explain the subject.

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So, thank you, Ms. Proven. Before

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proceeding with the adoption of these changes,

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I would like to briefly explain the entire

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process that led us to propose

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these names for the new

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residential development streets on the

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Saint-Lou. The objective was to take advantage

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of the creation of this new

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development to preserve a part

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of the collective memory of Saintégapie

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by recognizing that families who,

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in different ways and at

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different times, contribute to

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the history and development of our

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municipality. The

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proposed patterns were

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discussed among the council members during a

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working session on April 2, 2024.

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Furthermore, the established criteria and the

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procedure to be followed by the municipalities

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are inspired by the municipal topographical guide

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document which served as a basis for this discussion

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. In order to

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properly cement

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these choices, we considered

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several elements: seniority,

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continuity of family presence,

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unionization, contribution to

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agricultural and economic development,

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community involvement, and

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in some cases,

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civic and/or municipal contribution. A work,

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pardon, a work of

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documentary research was therefore carried out

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from archival documents relating to

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our local history, municipal archives,

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book 125th, book itself, and so on

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and so forth. Uh, we have returned

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simple and verifiable elements in order to

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use a common grid to

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document objectively and

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consistently, and the pattern that had already

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been selected. The main objective was not to

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create a scoring system to

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determine which

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families would be the most important in

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Senegal. As for the route, its

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name establishes a direct link with

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the development of the Saint-Luc church as well as

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the natural woodland which is the woodland of the

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olive tree which will be preserved in the heart of the

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new district. I would also like to

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clarify that for the sake of transparency,

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since one of the proposed names is that

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of my family, I did not propose

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the name, nor did I

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participate in the discussions or the

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decision concerning the choice of this

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name. My colleagues, Mrs.

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Provenchier and Mr. Bernard Breton, had to

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locate each of the street names

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from a subdivision project plan

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at the request of Mrs.

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Jacinte les Tourneaux. Les Tourneau

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then forwarded

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the chosen names to the poetry commission so that the

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commission could give a technical opinion in

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relation to the rules of writing,

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terminology and so on and so forth. In

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our case, everything was just

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right. Once the

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resolution is adopted, the names selected by the

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council will then be forwarded to the

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Quebec topography commission, which

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will analyze them according to its own criteria and

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rules. It will then be up to the

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commission to finalize their

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eligibility and the annoying coach to

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proceed with their officialization.

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Thank you, sir.

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I imagine it took someone to propose Mr.

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Bernard Breton for that. Thank you, Ms. Provanchu.

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Point 5, fire safety. Mr.

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Breton.

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Yes, thank you. Good evening.

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In point 5.1, fire school,

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hiring of an instructor monitor. It

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is proposed to proceed with the hiring of

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Mr. Claude Bergeron as an

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instructor for the

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fire school on a part-time basis under

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the working conditions specified in

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the agreement relating to the provision of

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safety incentive training services.

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A proposer, please.

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Proposed by Mr. Pierre Aess.

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5.2 Authorization to pay codes

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part in prevention insenti to the

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municipality of Saint-Apolinaire.

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It is proposed to authorise the payment

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of the invoices of the municipality of

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Saint-Apolinaire representing the

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part codes for the first 6 months

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of operation of the prevention officer

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in the respective amounts of 858

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sous and 1709 and 99 sous for a

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total amount of 10290 and 7 sous. non-taxable that

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the funds necessary for this expenditure

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be taken from the budget code

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fire port code a proposer please

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proposed by Mrs. Nadine Nolet

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5.3 3 requests

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cellular service providers to increase

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network capacity in the territory of

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the municipality.

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It is proposed to ask

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Roger and Vidé au Tron

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to assess the current and future

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cellular capacity needs in

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the municipality. To

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ask these providers to take

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the necessary steps to increase

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the bandwidth and capacity of their

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infrastructure and cell towers.

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Considering that the capacity and

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reliability of the cellular network

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also constitute a

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public safety issue, particularly in

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anticipation of the Lobinière country festival

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and in order to respond to the

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current and future growth of the population. To

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forward a copy of this

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resolution to Telus Belle Mobility RER and

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Videotron for appropriate follow-up.

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Proposer please, proposed by

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5.4 4, repair of the valves on

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fire truck number 723. He proposed

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to accept the service offer from the

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fire truck dealer

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Arsenal Thibau and Associates Incorporated in the

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amount of 4536.80

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plus taxes for the repair of the

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valve representing a leak

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on fire truck 723. That the

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funds necessary for this expense be

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taken from the

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maintenance and repair budget line.

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A proposal, please, put forward by

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Mr. Bernard Breton.

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Thank you, Mr. Breton. At point 6,

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Mr. Drin. Yes, thank you. Item 6.01:

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Submission of the report by the

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Deputy Director General on the hiring

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of non-unionized employees. The

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Deputy Director General in accordance with

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Article 3 of Regulation No.

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480-03-20

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concerning the delegation of power to the

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Director General for the hiring of

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salaried staff not syé the

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municipality files the following list of

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persons hired for the

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mil

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juliette of

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attendants to the cascute

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a non-proposer filing proposer please

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propose by Nazine

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the point 6.02 02 GH Vermit sports centre

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replacement of infirmary counter furniture

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.

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Whereas the furniture with

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the infirmary had to be dismantled as

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part of the work to replace the

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floor covering of this room, whereas

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three companies were

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asked to carry out the

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work including Mathieu Vancencour and Bénis

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Architectural, L'Établi Atelier des

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Ministeries Incorporé

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and Armoire de Cuisine en Paix,

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and only one was able to carry it out

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within the

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requested timeframe. He proposed to accept the

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AP kitchen cabinet service offer in the

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amount of

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$3255 plus tax and that the funds

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necessary for this departure be ready in the

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same building code arena

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expansion.

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A nominator please, nominated by

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Mr. Syvid.

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Item 6.03 03 Bourivage school requests

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authorization to hold a

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5 km race on October 14, 2020.

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Whereas the physical education teachers

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of Beauavage school wish to

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hold a 5 km race for the

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5th grade students. Given that the race will take place

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on a course including

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some municipal streets, the

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Black Gre path and the cycle path.

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Given that no street closure is

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necessary and that it is also not

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required to obtain authorizations

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from the Ministry of Transport or the

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Sûreté du Québec.

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It is proposed to allow the

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physical education teachers of

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Bourbage school to hold a

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5 km race on October 14, 2026 between 10:45 a.m. and

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12:15 p.m. according to the conditions stated in

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the expectations of the Qu

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a proposer please proposed by

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Mr. Bernard Breton

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6.04 04 GH sports centre

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Mutualization of a budget for the purchase of

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a refrigerator at the cascou given that

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the refrigerator currently used at the

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cascou of the arena has

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recurring operating problems and no longer

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adequately meets the needs of

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operations. It is proposed to authorize

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a maximum budget of $5,000 plus

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tax to Patrick Boucher, Director of

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Recreation, for the acquisition of a new

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refrigerator for the Arena group case

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to replace the

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existing equipment which has

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recurring operating problems. The

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necessary funds for this expenditure should be under

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the budget code for furniture and

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equipment. Proposer,

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please,

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Mr. Proposer,

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6.05.05 Recreation Department, authorization

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for payment of signage. For

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the purchase of signage, it is proposed

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to authorize Patrice Boucher, Director

564
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,080
of Recreation, to pay the invoice to

565
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,279
Signage des Vies at a cost of

566
00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:04,640
$4,247 plus tax related to the purchase of

567
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,679
signage for the

568
00:23:06,679 --> 00:23:08,320
Contrôle de Lumière festival. The

569
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,840
necessary funds for this expenditure should be under

570
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,559
the budget code for other

571
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,080
elected bodies. The Contrôle de

572
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Lumière festival should reimburse the municipality for

573
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159
50% of the invoice cost,

574
00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:22,039
excluding applicable taxes.

575
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,840
A proposer please, proposed by

576
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,679
Mr. Pierre,

577
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:28,559
6.06 GH Vermet sports center,

578
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,440
time authorization at Simco

579
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,559
refrigeration. He proposed authorizing

580
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,080
Patrice Boucher, Director of Recreation, to

581
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,559
pay the SIMC Refrigeration bill at a

582
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:40,000
cost of 6339.25 plus tax for

583
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,600
work carried out following a leak that

584
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,600
occurred during the cleaning of the

585
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,279
rent's gutters. He suggested that the

586
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:46,880
necessary funds for this expense be taken from

587
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600
the budget code for maintenance. A

588
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,279
proponent, please, proposed by

589
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:55,000
Mr. Bernard Breton. Thank you, sir.

590
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,360
Item 7: Approval of the accounts. Madam.

591
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,400
Item 7: Approval of the accounts for the month.

592
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,039
While the council members

593
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:04,480
received the list of accounts payable 72

594
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,640
hours prior and were

595
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,320
aware of it,

596
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,000
the list of compressible

597
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,039
and incompressible accounts for AU 2026 in the amount

598
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:18,630
of 1382822,

599
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,440
including salaries, be adopted

600
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,400
as presented and detailed as

601
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,880
follows. salary

602
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,600
$162,385 and 14 cents. Supplier account

603
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,039
46,475,616

604
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:38,320
dollars and 82 cents; supplier account

605
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,480
disbursed 744,820

606
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,919
dollars and 56 cents.

607
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:48,399
A proposal, please, proposed by

608
00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:51,039
Mr. Pierre. Thank you madam,

609
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,960
welcome.

610
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,159
We will have reached the

611
00:24:54,159 --> 00:25:20,430
question period.

612
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,840
Good evening. Good evening. Micro walking? Yes, yes

613
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,159
sir.

614
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:28,360
Can you get back to me the answer regarding the

615
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,080
rules for question periods? I understand that we're

616
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,520
only taking 2 minutes

617
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760
to ask you a question.

618
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,039
Yeah. Yeah. And you can come back from the

619
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,559
plane.

620
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:42,840
OK. Okay,

621
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,679
I have the first question as such.

622
00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:47,559
Uh, we started to sort a little bit about the... the... the...

623
00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:49,320
that you do per

624
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,640
month.

625
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,840
You want to mention that he had a

626
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,080
million-something going on there in expenses per

627
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,240
month.

628
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,960
Your budget is 9 million

629
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440
for expenses, but here every month

630
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,960
it's one million in expenses. How

631
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
can you reach 9 million if you

632
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,799
spend 1 million per month? Be careful

633
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:10,360
here because loan regulations

634
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,630
like the Arena are not in my annual budget, the

635
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,279
black laughter is not in my

636
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,159
annual budget, it is an expense, there is

637
00:26:19,159 --> 00:26:23,230
a part that goes into the expenses, what

638
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:25,399
is in my budget are the

639
00:26:25,399 --> 00:26:28,880
fixed costs and yes and the

640
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,159
supplier accounts disbursed from 744820,

641
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:33,919
that is the suppliers that I pay at the

642
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:37,240
same time as the Arena loan regulations and then F

643
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,120
potable.

644
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,440
Yeah, but still, your budget of 9

645
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,080
million covers all the expenses

646
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600
you're talking about every month.

647
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,120
Yeah, but those are two different things. I have my

648
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,799
annual budget which I respect, including

649
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,799
fixed expenses like salary and everything else. Then

650
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,120
I have a fund disbursement account that I will

651
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,360
have disbursements to pay for

652
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,679
Ben, that's in 1 million, that's

653
00:26:56,679 --> 00:26:59,720
disbursed there.

654
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,840
Yes yes. That includes everything. That's it,

655
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,760
supplier salary and supplier of,

656
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,159
so how do you get there, you

657
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:11,470
budgeted 9 million for the year,

658
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,320
that

659
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,919
in your budget, you said for

660
00:27:14,919 --> 00:27:15,799
2026,

661
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:16,120
or

662
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,679
you have a budget of not far from 9

663
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:18,440
million

664
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,320
for expenses,

665
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,760
or

666
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520
ok, but you have expenses of 1 million

667
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,789
per month, yeah, in my opinion, there are

668
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,269
12 months in a year, yeah,

669
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,720
so 12 x 1 million makes not far from

670
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,960
12 million,

671
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,120
but if you budgeted 9 million,

672
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,840
there is 3 million, but I don't know how to get it

673
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,000
. OK, that's

674
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,960
my question.

675
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,039
OK. Yeah, it's because I think you don't understand

676
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,360
. I have my annual budget of

677
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,880
9 million which includes all

678
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,519
prefixes, salaries,

679
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,080
budgeted expenses from the previous year. There, we have

680
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,519
expenses to pay, as I said

681
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:49,200
earlier, Arena's fees of 5 million for

682
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,200
the Renault. She was

683
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,440
n't talking about the 1 million

684
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,559
.

685
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,880
Yes, it's an outlay of

686
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,159
$744,820.

687
00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:57,279
OK. That includes the suppliers, that

688
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:58,640
includes salaries, that includes

689
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,360
fixed costs.

690
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,600
No, the supplier account is a different

691
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,679
account, it's 49000.

692
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:03,440
That means you have 700,700 and some

693
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,360
dollars in funds, that's it

694
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,279
.

695
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:08,519
OK.

696
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:09,679
No no no listen, we've been

697
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:11,840
walking for years. It's less about how it

698
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,399
works.

699
00:28:13,399 --> 00:28:15,640
The figures are analyzed in more detail.

700
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,919
Yeah.

701
00:28:16,919 --> 00:28:18,000
Another question. Should I sit down and then get up again

702
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,559
afterwards, or not?

703
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:20,960
No, that's a minute,

704
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,880
okay? No, not in more minutes. Minute on

705
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,039
the dot, here and there. Oh yeah, that's right. OK.

706
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,399
Yes. Sir, someone else

707
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:31,679
?

708
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:34,440
Yeah. Go for it. Mr. OK.

709
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,039
Again, I discussed the

710
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:39,080
monthly expenses for April,

711
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,399
May, June, and August; there were

712
00:28:41,399 --> 00:28:43,480
lawyer fees that varied, not far

713
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,600
from $20,000. Can we get

714
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,840
a little more detail on that

715
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,399
? Among other things, the file there

716
00:28:49,399 --> 00:28:51,279
which has almost 12000 dollars with

717
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,440
their Saint-Luc with you, what did it mean to

718
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320
mark file

719
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,679
Yve Gingra of Saint-Luc urban planner

720
00:29:00,679 --> 00:29:03,000
or

721
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,279
have the advantage of that

722
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:09,159
no I want to know what it is because it is

723
00:29:09,159 --> 00:29:10,679
meetings that we have

724
00:29:10,679 --> 00:29:13,080
meetings with the pr Mr. Pierre

725
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Livreet who is lawyer for the present, he is the one

726
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480
who coordinates the meetings the minutes the

727
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720
contracts it is

728
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,039
probably these fees

729
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:24,679
you are referring to

730
00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:29,480
ok mark ging it is me yeah

731
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200
I know it is you there

732
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,440
but are these relatives you

733
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,960
received

734
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,679
from the si Saint-Luc that's what

735
00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,840
I wanted to know. OK. No, no

736
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,720
, it's not there. The other three

737
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,279
amounts are $4000 per

738
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,640
month. There are professional and

739
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,159
then legal aspects.

740
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:49,080
Yeah.

741
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,720
What could this be related to? Mr.

742
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,919
Pierre Olivier Fradette for the

743
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:53,559
memorandum of understanding with the promoters.

744
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:53,640
The

745
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,799
memorandum of understanding concerning the

746
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,320
industrial development of Saint-Lieux

747
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,519
with the promoters.

748
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,159
OK. The other months, April, May, June,

749
00:30:01,159 --> 00:30:03,240
well, there are email agencies, there is

750
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,640
research work that is

751
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760
done. That's it, that's it, that's all of it. Ah yes,

752
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,440
the lawyer works every month. That's

753
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,559
it. It's not that there are

754
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,240
communication exchanges between the promotions and

755
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Pierre Fred, and even between us and the CEO.

756
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,519
But are you aware that this law firm doesn't charge

757
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,760
200 dollars a piece?

758
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,360
Yeah.

759
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,720
They are very expensive. It's one of the most

760
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,960
popular in Quebec City.

761
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Yeah.

762
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,240
Did you have a

763
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,640
particular reason for choosing one of the

764
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320
most prone to delaying legal proceedings? More

765
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,559
suspenseful, that's what you say

766
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,640
anyway. No, what I'm

767
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,919
telling you is that we've been doing this for

768
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:44,190
years, that's what we've been doing.

769
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,600
No, but you can't just go out to

770
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,799
tender with law firms and

771
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,760
lawyers to say we'll find someone

772
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,799
cheaper, maybe more local,

773
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:52,960
and not a trap at the moment. It's too late

774
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000
to talk, it's been 4 years since we've been doing this, Mr.

775
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,559
Freight,

776
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:56,919
okay, but there's always time to change

777
00:30:56,919 --> 00:30:57,279
too.

778
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,240
We're on the signing protocol, there's

779
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,840
still a meeting with the contractors on

780
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,760
September 14th, so you'll close it

781
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,639
too, precisely. Well, after that you'll be

782
00:31:05,639 --> 00:31:07,480
able to choose a lawyer or, well,

783
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
no, the whole protocol will be

784
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760
drafted, the work will start,

785
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
the city will sign, the developers will sign,

786
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,399
the work will start, there will be

787
00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:19,840
a little follow-up to do from time to time, basically,

788
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,840
after that you won't

789
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,919
need

790
00:31:24,919 --> 00:31:27,080
to take any more film, the most Quebec.

791
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Yeah. OK. Let someone else have my turn

792
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:38,201
. Yeah, sir.

793
00:31:38,211 --> 00:31:40,159
[clears throat]

794
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,399
Uh, good evening.

795
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:46,639
Uh, first things first, p the

796
00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:48,760
road.

797
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:55,629
Yeah. Finished.

798
00:31:55,639 --> 00:31:57,880
Mr. Mayor, it is necessary quite

799
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,480
often, and there are not many people

800
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,840
working on it. There was

801
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,960
the general assembly of

802
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,600
government engineers 3 weeks ago,

803
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,629
I don't even know if they are working on it.

804
00:32:09,639 --> 00:32:11,440
Listen to us, it will be finished by the end of

805
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,720
September, it will be finished by

806
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,360
September, yeah,

807
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,880
because we scheduled the Draaux

808
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,720
road to the jump in October, far from it,

809
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,880
the Dado road

810
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,399
sometimes lacks love.

811
00:32:25,399 --> 00:32:26,360
Yeah.

812
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,120
I don't know if you've been there. Yes

813
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,240
sir.

814
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360
It would be much easier for me to go up

815
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,960
into the field than to go through the

816
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,200
road.

817
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,799
Yeah.

818
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,200
Surely and definitely not a road

819
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,350
that is made for knowing that the world

820
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,840
only does that,

821
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,639
uh, I have the right to another question.

822
00:32:44,639 --> 00:32:45,279
Yeah,

823
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,240
you don't have more than 2 minutes

824
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720
when we want to get a

825
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,360
regulation adopted.

826
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,639
Not adopted. Your

827
00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:57,240
regulation has been adopted, but we want to do it. How could

828
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,519
I have told you before? It needs to be

829
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,720
practiced in people's homes.

830
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320
If you ask about urban planning,

831
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,629
they talk about a prosecutor. In this case, should

832
00:33:10,639 --> 00:33:13,080
the

833
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,039
facts presented be presented to the municipal prosecutor or to the

834
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,159
MRC prosecutor?

835
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,480
That's my question. OK.

836
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,799
because we are presenting things that are

837
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,279
not appropriate in the neighborhood.

838
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:28,120
OK.

839
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,039
Then we try with the urban planner

840
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:32,360
of Saintégapi,

841
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,919
Mr. Drolette, accordingly.

842
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:37,039
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Then madam, madam,

843
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:38,720
sir are from

844
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,799
Yeah. Right now, it's Mr.

845
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:41,919
Yes.

846
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:45,840
Facts are presented, photos are shown here and there.

847
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,799
We are talking about a prosecutor from the MRC who went

848
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:49,240
there before

849
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,519
the regulation was enforced. That's the word

850
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:51,360
I was looking for.

851
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,919
OK. OK.

852
00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:53,440
Apply the rule you have

853
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,039
made.

854
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,279
OK.

855
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,480
And it is the MRC prosecutor

856
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,519
or the municipal prosecutor who needs to give their opinion

857
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,159
.

858
00:34:01,159 --> 00:34:03,600
In other words, you filed a complaint.

859
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Not just me.

860
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
OK. OK. Do

861
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,799
you have anything, Mr. Mayor?

862
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,320
The file is now in the hands of our

863
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,000
urban planner.

864
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,720
Yes sir.

865
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,399
Here's an update on the case.

866
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:13,960
We ask clear questions.

867
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,480
OK. I am

868
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560
told that we went to the

869
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
MRC prosecutor if I heard the

870
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,399
last one correctly.

871
00:34:19,399 --> 00:34:19,839
OK. OK

872
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:21,320
because it annoys us,

873
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,839
OK,

874
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:24,040
and a good part of the people on the street of the

875
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,720
college and the normal street,

876
00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:29,470
OK sir madam, you are the urban planning committee, don't go looking into this

877
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,079
with Mr. Drol and then Mrs.

878
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:34,349
Procure, yeah yeah,

879
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,560
but if Clément told you about this, what did he

880
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,639
tell you? Did he hear that he was going to come back to you

881
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,159
with this, or yeah,

882
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,790
it's true that he can't hear me, yeah, I don't know,

883
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,079
but

884
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,359
I don't know if I already have a task on the

885
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:50,720
file before I start talking.

886
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,000
But is it possible that when we

887
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,480
last talked to you about this, it was

888
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,520
more of a

889
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,800
police case, but that's no longer the case now? That's it,

890
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,400
sir,

891
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960
it's part of this whirlwind,

892
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,280
madam.

893
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,040
OK. That's

894
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,079
part of the DPJ, that's part

895
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,640
of the police, that's part of the

896
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,599
municipality.

897
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:08,920
OK.

898
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,000
But nobody inseminated me.

899
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,119
I no longer feel safe on

900
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:14,280
Normand Saint-Dire Street.

901
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,800
OK. Do

902
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,920
you understand me and my family? Do you want

903
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,599
me to check with Mr. Dr. so

904
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,040
that you can tell the

905
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,960
prosecutor

906
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,030
what we expect to do to clean things up,

907
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,680
but inform yourself, like, yeah, do I have any, is it

908
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,599
you in

909
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,079
particular at your place because I need to

910
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:36,640
know exactly, if I, it was

911
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,599
me who spoke, Mr. Dr., there is another, another

912
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,000
person from the

913
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,069
college, I'm getting ahead of myself, yeah, it's

914
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,069
definitely filmed, yeah,

915
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:47,320
I'm just getting involved.

916
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,950
But then sir, we'll come back to that,

917
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,910
we can look at that, but if that's it, it

918
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,520
could be,

919
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,280
or what we're asking for, a malon piqu,

920
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,599
is to enforce

921
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,560
the regulations that you made,

922
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,400
or as well as a

923
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,670
dog on a leash, yeah, indeed, okay, yeah,

924
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,200
just

925
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,280
your file concerns, as far as we,

926
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839
the municipality, are concerned, it's a

927
00:36:10,839 --> 00:36:12,640
violation that could be, that should

928
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,790
be enforced, that's it, okay,

929
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,359
because sir, passed through my

930
00:36:16,359 --> 00:36:19,480
property. He wasn't too far off

931
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,400
because if he could have

932
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,160
gotten between the dog and the wall, he would have

933
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520
. Why do I

934
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480
know this? Because I have cameras

935
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,440
all around my house. Do

936
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,560
you understand ? We've been

937
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160
forced to

938
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,240
organize ourselves like this for a year now. As for the neighbors

939
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,240
on the street, look there, a lady, it's the

940
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,160
street of the college so as

941
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,800
not to get harassed by the neighbor.

942
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,400
A screen was placed over his

943
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,359
account gallery. That's normal. I've been

944
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:52,040
living in his house for 44 years. If you

945
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,280
have a case of mine, come and

946
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,839
talk to me about it. You'll see that it's going to be

947
00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:00,870
okay.

948
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
It's not true that I see things happening when someone moves from

949
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Saint. You won't

950
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,520
even create that kind of place where we can

951
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,000
go.

952
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,240
Yeah,

953
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:13,560
because we've let go,

954
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,079
you'll come back in private Mr. La

955
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:18,829
Roche

956
00:37:18,839 --> 00:37:20,240
if we come back to you next month so

957
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,960
I can talk to you, is that okay with you

958
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,000
? Oh yes, anyway,

959
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,800
I'm going to make some rancid cheeses,

960
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,200
I have one to make tomorrow, I'm going to

961
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,640
make one next week and so on

962
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,150
.

963
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Other questions.

964
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,560
I just want to add a parenthetical remark.

965
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Look with your people at everything you do to

966
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,280
steal from the municipality.

967
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,880
Oh yeah,

968
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,760
look at that.

969
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Yeah.

970
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,400
And I have a suspect.

971
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,319
A major vandal, too. Don't

972
00:37:51,319 --> 00:37:53,800
talk about band, I'm talking about theft among

973
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:59,150
other

974
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,391
things

975
00:38:01,391 --> 00:38:09,670
[grunt]

976
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,480
no

977
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,640
uh in the session of June 1st a

978
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,599
citizen that we ask you to know his

979
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:17,839
possibility of paying

980
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:19,839
municipal taxes in 12 months because this

981
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,720
file is advanced for the

982
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,359
general population of Saint-Ag.

983
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:24,760
No, we didn't work.

984
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,920
You haven't worked on that?

985
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040
No. No, because it's

986
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,200
something that's

987
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,670
important to you to help citizens

988
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,240
adopt the 6 psuis. Listen to how we're

989
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,760
discussing this, there's nothing stopping

990
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,119
anyone from paying that in 12. For me it's

991
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,119
tax.

992
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,190
We don't have our compositions.

993
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,440
Yeah, but I think it's worth

994
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,000
adding it there. But can

995
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,400
the municipality be flexible enough to

996
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
tell a citizen that they can pay

997
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,000
municipal taxes over 12 months,

998
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,400
or will there be other people who will

999
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,839
come here crying and shouting that they are in dire

1000
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:02,359
straits? Yeah

1001
00:39:02,359 --> 00:39:04,760
but no for now we have the 106 months it's

1002
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,720
6 months don't do anything for that

1003
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,599
for now yeah ok

1004
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,800
last question there is citizen of the

1005
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,440
last council meetings I reported

1006
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,599
that the agenda on the internet did

1007
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,280
not have the figures mentioned

1008
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,760
on the agenda that we come to collect

1009
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,960
at the door here precisely the transparency

1010
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,359
I asked maybe to put that equal to that

1011
00:39:26,359 --> 00:39:27,920
one reason why it has not been done

1012
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,000
yet

1013
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,119
on the agenda of the day The agenda of the day that we used to

1014
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,240
collect at the door, I had the amounts

1015
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:35,920
or

1016
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,319
when we go on the internet on the

1017
00:39:38,319 --> 00:39:40,319
municipal website the figures are

1018
00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:43,200
not there.

1019
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,599
OK. But next on the agenda,

1020
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,119
is it possible for it to be

1021
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,119
included there? Because you're hiding

1022
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:50,640
certain information that people ca

1023
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,440
n't access here. He knew about

1024
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,680
the municipality's daily agenda on the

1025
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,319
site.

1026
00:39:56,319 --> 00:39:56,640
Yeah,

1027
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,150
but there's some missing information.

1028
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,319
So it's possible to have the

1029
00:40:02,319 --> 00:40:03,680
figures at the same time here. What

1030
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,720
difference does it make?

1031
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,359
But that changes things; tonight we'll adopt

1032
00:40:08,359 --> 00:40:09,880
tonight's session. The internet will be back up in

1033
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,560
the next few days.

1034
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,520
Yes sir, who want to go and get

1035
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,599
the agenda. Yeah, I

1036
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,680
watched it online first. We don't have

1037
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,119
all the information.

1038
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:19,440
Yeah,

1039
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,480
not everyone can come

1040
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,240
here tonight.

1041
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,200
OK. OK. Yeah.

1042
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
So you write it one way or

1043
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,240
another, I just got online there.

1044
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,640
Ah, okay. Okay. On the internet.

1045
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,760
Yes. OK.

1046
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,720
That's something that can be

1047
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:39,390
done too. The next

1048
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,280
day

1049
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,359
you already do it, just take his copy

1050
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:44,960
there and put on the internet all the

1051
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,910
information

1052
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,599
municipalities

1053
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,400
sorry

1054
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,640
municipal com

1055
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,920
I don't know the other municipalities

1056
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,560
I know this information gap you have 5 that

1057
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,760
I don't care about but cagapi you

1058
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,040
already have the figures it's taking his

1059
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,599
copy there and putting them

1060
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:10,680
on the website

1061
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,430
yeah that's it he can

1062
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,480
put it there

1063
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,200
for the next month of October

1064
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,240
because

1065
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:20,960
and so on. Yeah, but yes then

1066
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,800
no, it wasn't until later that afternoon

1067
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,839
we had changes to make for the

1068
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:24,440
rena.

1069
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,720
Yeah, but you're putting it in anyway.

1070
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,119
You do it in the annex as I already

1071
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,790
said, you put that in good evening, that's good, right?

1072
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,359
No, these are open to discussion.

1073
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:34,800
That's not up for debate. No,

1074
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,440
yeah, they're discussing it with the

1075
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,200
council members.

1076
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,400
OK, you're already doing that. That's it,

1077
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,630
no

1078
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:53,230
thanks. [clears throat]

1079
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:56,839
I don't understand, currently it's

1080
00:41:56,839 --> 00:41:59,240
2026,

1081
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,319
why can't you

1082
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:03,480
spread the tax bill over 12? I would make it

1083
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040
mandatory to register,

1084
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,119
so it's not more expensive

1085
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:11,240
to administer. You created this,

1086
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,720
you copied it, it's

1087
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,040
already me, I joined it yesterday, he

1088
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
made the payment. Good evening, I received an

1089
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,079
email saying the payment has gone through

1090
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,040
. OK. Why is

1091
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,240
it for 12 months?

1092
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,960
No, he's 6 months old.

1093
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,520
OK. It's wonderful, I won't forget it

1094
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,839
because you'll understand one

1095
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:35,559
day that we may not come, sir, that there's

1096
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,160
a certain age that sometimes we

1097
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:43,000
forget. OK. So if I don't forget it, will sort itself out automatically. We're coming

1098
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040
with 500 pes as you say.

1099
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
You're going to upgrade your patent, by the

1100
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,680
way, it could have had another

1101
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,599
name because the delivery of CG is

1102
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:58,549
called

1103
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,920
upgrading once in your life, you have to

1104
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,240
put it at 12 months without interest,

1105
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,760
honestly without interest, like you

1106
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,920
do, like you do with me for 6

1107
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,720
months, then people could budget,

1108
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,200
especially young families,

1109
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,240
look at what's happening around us

1110
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,760
. Look at what's happening in the

1111
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,760
Quebec government, in the

1112
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,599
American government, Mr. Trump is doing

1113
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,960
crazy things, gas is now two

1114
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,160
pieces a litre. Why can't we

1115
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,599
help our young people, perhaps with

1116
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,520
interest rate increases? No

1117
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,520
more encouragement for you other

1118
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,640
programs. For example, force them, you

1119
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,839
will have the 12 months, you will register

1120
00:43:40,839 --> 00:43:44,760
on with dates predetermined by the

1121
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
municipality as you did for 6

1122
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,510
months without benefiting anyone.

1123
00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:51,119
[clears throat]

1124
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:55,079
Good evening. The one who pays for 12 months

1125
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,880
currently does

1126
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,319
not charge interest because in reality

1127
00:43:59,319 --> 00:44:01,440
the amount there does not arrive as they

1128
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,599
want it, do

1129
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,440
you understand what I mean?

1130
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640
I don't understand. It's 2026.

1131
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,079
Yeah,

1132
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:09,760
it's done elsewhere. We can do it again

1133
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,240
elsewhere. Elsewhere.

1134
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:13,599
there is no

1135
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:16,760
control room. We have this one, and

1136
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,200
it works.

1137
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Let's see what the software

1138
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:24,079
that manages it sees there. How much would it

1139
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,319
cost to upgrade it to 12 months? We

1140
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:29,960
establish the due dates

1141
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,200
of the [throat clearing] tax account

1142
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,680
by dividing by 12 then we offer it to

1143
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
everyone but you're going to go there

1144
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,760
your payments will be returned guaranteed

1145
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,960
he has to make sure he has

1146
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,359
money in his account

1147
00:44:42,359 --> 00:44:44,119
we reduce the payment

1148
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:45,599
then we help people I don't

1149
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,000
understand I don't understand

1150
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,520
why you don't want to help people did

1151
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,119
n't want to keep it anymore the world it's

1152
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,480
not a question of

1153
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,760
one person who authorizes the six per

1154
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,200
year.

1155
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,800
No, no,

1156
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
we can, that's what the

1157
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,880
municipal tax budget is about.

1158
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Yes, but where do

1159
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,910
I get my mortgage? Where does

1160
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,200
my bank handle my taxes?

1161
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Yeah,

1162
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,400
three times a year my bank

1163
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,839
pays my municipal taxes and my

1164
00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:15,559
amount comes back to

1165
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:17,559
you, you don't have to pay any interest on it.

1166
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:19,800
Oh no well no well no well no.

1167
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Pavance,

1168
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,720
what are you saying?

1169
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,960
Well, I'd like to comment on that, uh, it's

1170
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,800
not a

1171
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,720
question of not wanting to help, it doesn't change

1172
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,200
anything in the end as he says

1173
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,400
because in the end,

1174
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,040
your tax account is 3000, I'm giving

1175
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,680
the figures by hand at the end of the year,

1176
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,280
you have to pay your 3000 coins.

1177
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Yeah, okay.

1178
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,720
but the family, the family there, that he has to

1179
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,119
pay his tax bill,

1180
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,720
let's say every 3 months, well, they can

1181
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,640
ask their bank to take the

1182
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,200
amount each month and then he will be

1183
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,119
paid after 3 months. It doesn't change anything.

1184
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:49,480
It changes absolutely nothing.

1185
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,880
You don't have that service. Because it's

1186
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,559
possible for others to do it themselves,

1187
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:55,559
even every month.

1188
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:56,800
Wait, Mr. La Roche, let me

1189
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,880
finish. If someone wants to

1190
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,000
make their payment there to the municipality, they

1191
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,480
want to make their payment of, I don't know,

1192
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,040
200 coins per month for their

1193
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,079
tax payment, they can do it. No

1194
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:07,319
one is going to refuse their

1195
00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:10,359
payment. She can do it through

1196
00:46:10,359 --> 00:46:12,839
her bank, through her savings bank, through

1197
00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:14,200
automatic transfers. That's how it is

1198
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,760
. I

1199
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,510
know, I know. That's why, that's all,

1200
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,440
but why did you create voice there at

1201
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,640
that time? Because it's for

1202
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,520
online payment.

1203
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,000
Oh no, but that's what I want,

1204
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,559
but it's not for 12 months, it's for

1205
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:25,520
6 months.

1206
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,880
No, but why did you create it?

1207
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,200
That's why you added it, even though I could have

1208
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,520
done it differently. I always

1209
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,640
paid my taxes on the

1210
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040
due date, either by accessing the system

1211
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,839
to simply facilitate

1212
00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:39,359
payment. But it's just another

1213
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:41,680
way to pay. But for the person there, we have it

1214
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,640
over 6 months, but for the person

1215
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,160
who wants to pay monthly it's easy

1216
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,760
for them, they just have to make transfers,

1217
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,800
no interest to pay anywhere.

1218
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,559
No, if it does its own

1219
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:52,960
municipal transfer, you won't find it

1220
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,599
interesting.

1221
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,240
No, it's paid after 3 months.

1222
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,480
No,

1223
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,839
it's paid after 3 months.

1224
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:00,640
But she has to pay,

1225
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,200
I'll give you another example. I

1226
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,119
'll give you another example,

1227
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:04,440
Mr. La Roche, in any case, in

1228
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,920
my own thinking, because we thought about it

1229
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400
there, we didn't do that. Oh no,

1230
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,280
I thought to myself, the

1231
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,920
person who can't pay the first

1232
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,000
month,

1233
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,119
that could happen. Yeah, and it's

1234
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:17,680
already happened to me and it must

1235
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,440
happen to lots of people, but at least there are

1236
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,760
two more months to catch up,

1237
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,920
whereas if the person made their

1238
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,000
payments monthly and then ca

1239
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,200
n't pay that particular month, then they'll have

1240
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,839
interest accruing.

1241
00:47:30,839 --> 00:47:32,200
I'd like to see your

1242
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,960
electricity bills, or

1243
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,559
I'm not sure you want to see them

1244
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:38,480
. It's almost

1245
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,000
certain that you're on the

1246
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,280
payment methods to pay equally 12 months a

1247
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,359
year.

1248
00:47:44,359 --> 00:47:46,280
Ah, well, you chose

1249
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,720
that option because it was

1250
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,319
offered to you, do you understand? Because it's every

1251
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:53,240
2 months and sometimes the bills are

1252
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:56,520
high, especially in winter. Look at this,

1253
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,920
I don't understand, it's easier

1254
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,119
for those who have a budget than that, and we

1255
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:05,680
need to stop saying that others don't do it

1256
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,000
.

1257
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,359
to go see the

1258
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:10,960
funds

1259
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,319
but just like that we also looked at

1260
00:48:13,319 --> 00:48:18,200
Mrs. Avid, we spent 4 years on it, we inquired

1261
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,760
with that, the software is very

1262
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,920
expensive, we have to wait until the end of

1263
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,079
the year for,

1264
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:25,720
I agree with you sir,

1265
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:32,589
what is the price, expensive,

1266
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,040
the price, we will inform again

1267
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,520
because we will re-inform this fall,

1268
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,200
budget,

1269
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,000
you will do it once in the life

1270
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,880
of the municipality, it will just be

1271
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,559
upgraded by,

1272
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:47,000
yeah but it's a dog, you have to pay for years,

1273
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,160
it's expensive, yeah

1274
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,599
but it's expensive, the years

1275
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,359
or it's expensive, just pay for years,

1276
00:48:52,359 --> 00:48:55,240
no, what is expensive to be

1277
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,760
upgraded or what is expensive every

1278
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,799
month,

1279
00:48:58,799 --> 00:49:00,520
it's new software,

1280
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920
okay, we throw it away, owner, you are the

1281
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,359
owner, so you haven't paid per

1282
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:10,349
month, after that it's annual,

1283
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,079
annually we have to pay a license

1284
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,880
for it to work. Well, you

1285
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,000
imagine that's what it must be

1286
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,680
annually, we pay for a license, it

1287
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,359
works, we already pay for one

1288
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:27,520
for 6 months, it can't be, so

1289
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,960
we bought the software for 6 months, we

1290
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,680
pay for a license every year, that's it,

1291
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,880
if we're going to have software for 12

1292
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,520
months, a license every year, it costs, and then we

1293
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,760
code everyone. Yeah.

1294
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,119
Ah, think about it.

1295
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,400
Yeah. Here I am,

1296
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,480
I'm on it, and I'm

1297
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,000
very happy. He made a

1298
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,280
payment there yesterday, I haven't forgotten. Nobody's

1299
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,960
going to be a pain with me. Multiplicity has been

1300
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,280
paid.

1301
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Yeah. Sometimes

1302
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,079
it happens that we weren't

1303
00:49:57,079 --> 00:49:59,319
able to pay. Don't assume that

1304
00:49:59,319 --> 00:50:01,079
everyone will be able to pay by

1305
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,599
2026.

1306
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:08,040
Excuse me, I went over 2 minutes.

1307
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,150
Okay,

1308
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,839
that's one last question. In

1309
00:50:12,839 --> 00:50:14,200
August you spoke, you were supposed to be handling the

1310
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,000
financial statements

1311
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,440
for the regional authority. In September, we didn't

1312
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,069
talk about it tonight, we haven't heard from the company yet. Okay, what's

1313
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,400
planned for

1314
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,119
October?

1315
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:32,880
It'll be a year since the region left, and

1316
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920
we haven't had any information. We had

1317
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,680
one meeting

1318
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,589
after that, and we have no figures, no

1319
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:42,720
expenditures, nothing at all.

1320
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,599
Then we have the 2025 budget filing,

1321
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,119
everything will be done at the same time,

1322
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,200
but 2025, 2026, winter,

1323
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,920
no, the regional authority, it'll be good, who files

1324
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,280
2024, 2024,

1325
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,030
the regional authority, it wasn't 2024, okay,

1326
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,520
but we'll know, the information

1327
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,119
given to me on that, figures,

1328
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,480
yes, we're filing the 2025 budget, it's

1329
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,680
the Saint-Julien team soon,

1330
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,280
it would be done, I won't

1331
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,760
announce it online.

1332
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,119
For September,

1333
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,119
I don't know, it'll be the company, we're

1334
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,839
waiting, happy, okay,

1335
00:51:18,839 --> 00:51:21,079
to see

1336
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:23,280
the regional authority, there, it's the beginner. 2024 with

1337
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,880
its

1338
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,760
closing that year after the

1339
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,829
accountants there we'll do 2025 that saint that you

1340
00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:34,640
see we had figures there yeah yes

1341
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,160
present

1342
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,559
in October

1343
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,480
2025 for the board yeah

1344
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,760
2025 2026

1345
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,440
No no 25 well

1346
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,200
26 winter 2026 no it's

1347
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,480
January 1st to December 31st the

1348
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,359
financial years sir my

1349
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:48,760
yeah that means the part in

1350
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,960
October November 2025 Saint-G but

1351
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,400
Saint-Gava already operated before we'll see

1352
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,680
the board there said dirty juice 2025

1353
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,640
yeah snow at that time sorry there is

1354
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,200
no snow

1355
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,200
I know but that's what we'll do we'll

1356
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,559
train 2025

1357
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:06,400
it's next year in a year there we'll

1358
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000
train 2025 nothing to know how it will

1359
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,599
cost the salaries

1360
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:13,040
machinery repairs 2025

1361
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:13,720
garage.

1362
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,520
Yeah. In the fall of 2025, when we turn over a

1363
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,079
suit, we're going to see everything.

1364
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:19,400
Ah, okay.

1365
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:29,430
OK.

1366
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,160
No further questions. We are going to form

1367
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,240
the assembly.

1368
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,799
Ah yes, that's right, adopt

1369
00:52:35,799 --> 00:52:41,000
the minutes of this evening proposed by

1370
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,520
sir.

1371
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,240
Thank you everyone. Good evening,

1372
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,760
I'm coming. How ?