[0:06] Good evening everyone. Welcome to the [0:08] regular meeting of Tuesday, September 1, [0:11] 2026. [0:18] Before adopting the agenda, we will discuss [0:22] administration and legislation. Item 3.8, 8th meeting [0:26] of the council of October 2026, the nominator, [0:33] Ms. Nadine Nolet, will adopt the agenda. At item 3, [0:36] I will give the floor to Ms. Nadine [0:37] Nolet for administration and [0:39] legislation. [0:40] Good evening everyone. 3.1 [0:43] Filing of the statement of results [0:46] of the budget as of [0:48] 31, 2026. The Director General files [0:52] the statement of results of the budget as of 31. [0:56] 3.2 Saint-Élisabeth Parish of Lebinière [1:00] renewal advertisement in the [1:03] parish bulletin. It is proposed to authorize [1:06] a non-taxable amount of $280 [1:10] for the renewal of an advertisement [1:11] in the parish bulletin of the [1:13] Saint-Élisabeth parish of Lobinière. that the [1:16] funds necessary for this expenditure be [1:17] taken from the budget code of another [1:20] body. Please, [1:26] Plains Snowmobile Club [1:29] grant application. It is proposed to authorize an [1:32] amount of $4612 plus taxes to [1:36] participate in the purchase of a culvert [1:39] for the Plains Snowmobile Club, [1:41] which will be installed on the territory [1:43] of the municipality. The funds [1:44] required for this expenditure will be taken from [1:47] the budget code of another organization. [1:50] A [1:50] proposer please by madam [1:56] 3.4 regulation 6284 [2:00] excuse 08 26 amending regulation 612 [2:05] 04 26 concerning the internal management of the [2:08] meetings of the council of the municipality of [2:10] Saint-Agapi. [2:12] Whereas the municipality has adopted by- [2:14] law 6120426 [2:17] concerning the internal governance of [2:19] council meetings. Whereas [2:21] the municipal council deems it [2:24] necessary to amend by-law [2:26] 6120426 [2:28] concerning the internal management of [2:30] council meetings in order to [2:33] provide clarifications relating to [2:35] the content of questions to be asked during [2:37] question periods. [2:40] This period has a maximum duration of [2:42] 30 minutes. Each speaker has [2:45] a maximum of 2 minutes to [2:48] ask these questions. [2:52] It is proposed that regulation 624 08 [2:55] 26 amending regulation 612 0426 [2:59] concerning the internal management of meetings [3:01] be and is adopted. [3:03] A nominator please, nominated by [3:05] Mr. Bernard Breton. [3:08] 3.5 Resolution of agreement and [3:11] short term relating to a [3:14] bond loan in the amount of [3:18] $5,435,000 which will be realized on September 16, [3:23] 2026. [3:24] Whereas in accordance with the [3:26] following loan bylaw and for the amounts [3:28] indicated opposite each of them, the [3:30] municipality of Saint Agapie wishes to [3:32] issue a series of bonds, namely [3:35] one bond per maturity for a [3:38] total amount of $5,435,000 [3:41] which will be realized on September 16, 2026 [3:44] distributed as follows. [3:46] So the one for loan settlement number [3:48] 4910121 [3:52] which refers to the fire station [3:55] for an amount of [3:57] $873,000. By- [3:59] law number 305410 [4:03] which refers to the [4:04] multi-purpose center [4:06] in the amount of $1,197,000; [4:11] number 304021 [4:15] for the repair of Olivier [4:17] Pouliop and College streets in the amount of [4:21] $202,700; number 302 01110 [4:26] in reference to the [4:29] Arna refrigeration system $120,500; [4:33] number 2660208 [4:37] in reference to the construction of new [4:39] Vachon development streets in the [4:41] amount of [4:44] $65,800; number 558 [4:47] 0424 in [4:49] reference to work to improve the capacity of [4:52] the wastewater treatment plant [4:54] in the amount of $1,636,000; [4:59] and by-law number 578 [5:03] 12 24 [5:05] in reference to the expansion of [5:06] the arena and the purchase of the [5:09] ice resurfacer for [5:13] $1,340,000. Given that [5:15] the loan regulations should be amended [5:16] accordingly. Whereas, in [5:18] accordance with the first [5:20] paragraph of article 2 of the Act respecting [5:22] municipal debts and loans for the [5:25] purposes of this bond issue and [5:27] for loan regulations [5:29] number 305 041 [5:32] 01 558 04 24 and 578 12 24, the [5:39] municipality of Saint-Agép wishes to [5:41] issue for a shorter term than [5:43] that originally fixed in its [5:45] regulations. [5:48] that the bonds be signed by [5:50] the mayor and the clerk-treasurer or in [5:53] his absence the [5:55] assistant clerk-treasurer, the municipality of this agapi, [5:57] as permitted by law, has mandated the [6:00] CDS to act as [6:02] authenticating financial agent and the [6:04] bonds will come into force [6:06] only when they have been [6:07] authenticated. [6:09] With regard to the [6:11] annual capital repayments planned for the years [6:13] 2032 and following, the term provided for [6:16] in loan regulations number 305 [6:19] 041 [6:21] 01 558 04 24 and 578 12 24 is [6:28] shorter than that originally fixed, i.e. [6:30] for a term of 5 years from [6:32] 16 September 2026 instead of the [6:36] term prescribed for the 10 [6:37] repayments. Each [6:39] subsequent issue must be for the balance or [6:42] part of the balance due on the loan. [6:46] Take a proposal [6:49] put forward by [6:52] Mr. Pierre Odess. [6:55] 3.6 Authorisation to submit an application for [6:58] recognition as a [7:01] child-friendly municipality. Given [7:04] the will demonstrated and the [7:06] steps taken by the [7:07] municipality to become a [7:09] child-friendly municipality. It is proposed [7:12] to authorise and approve the submission to the designated [7:14] space containing the application file [7:17] for obtaining recognition as a [7:19] child-friendly municipality. to [7:21] confirm that Mr. Marc-Antoine [7:23] Drouin and Ms. Alicia Deschin are [7:26] the bearers of the [7:28] child-friendly municipality file. That the Director [7:31] General, or in his absence the [7:33] Deputy Director General, be authorized to [7:36] sign the documents necessary for this [7:38] purpose. [7:39] to formally confirm the commitment [7:41] of the municipality, to appoint the [7:43] municipality to put in place within [7:45] 3 years the three commitments [7:48] contained in the 10 application files [7:50] for the recognition nae [7:54] proposer please proposed by [7:56] Mr. [7:58] 3.7 7 municipal council authorization to [8:02] pay to Weblexex Design for the [8:04] renewal of the annual subscription to [8:06] the paperless council interface. It is [8:09] proposed to authorize the payment of [8:13] $4184 and 42 cents plus tax to Weblex [8:16] design for the renewal of [8:18] the annual subscription to the [8:20] paperless board interface. That the funds [8:22] necessary for this expenditure are themselves within [8:24] the budgetary code, the right to use [8:26] software. [8:29] A motion, please, proposed by [8:30] Mr. Marcine Dr 3.8, [8:33] municipal council, modification of the date of the [8:36] October meeting, given that [8:39] resolution 2025 11 443 adopting the [8:43] schedule of regular [8:45] council meetings for the year 2026 must be [8:47] modified due to a scheduling conflict [8:49] with the provincial elections. It is [8:52] therefore proposed to change the date of the [8:56] October municipal council meeting, originally scheduled for [8:58] Monday, October 5, and to move it to [9:01] Tuesday, October 16, due to a scheduling conflict [9:04] with the [9:06] provincial elections. [9:08] A nominator please, proposed by [9:10] Mrs. Nadine Dolin. Thank you, Ms. [9:11] Nadienne. [9:12] THANKS. At point 4 to the urban planner, Ms. [9:14] Manon Provanger. [9:15] Yes, good evening everyone. Uh 4.1 [9:19] authorize the [9:20] urban planning technician to issue [9:22] permits and certificates and to apply [9:25] urban planning regulations. [9:29] It is proposed to appoint Ms. [9:30] Jacinte Lourneau as [9:33] municipal inspector responsible for the application [9:35] of by-law number 25407. [9:39] Uh, it is proposed to authorize her in [9:42] the exercise of her duties to carry out [9:44] inspections throughout the [9:46] territory of the municipality, analyze [9:49] applications for permits and certificates, [9:51] issue or refuse permits and [9:53] certificates in accordance with the [9:55] applicable regulations and issue [9:58] any notice of offence or statement [10:00] of offence in the name of the municipality. to [10:03] signify any formal notice to order [10:05] the termination of any use, construction, [10:07] work or work carried out in [10:09] contravention of municipal regulations [10:13] to authorize Ms. Jacin les Tourneau to [10:15] affix her handwritten or [10:17] electronic signature on the permits, [10:20] certificates and other documents which [10:22] is authorized to issue, as well as to [10:26] access municipal digital systems [10:28] when required in [10:29] the exercise of their function. that [10:31] this resolution remains in force [10:33] until replaced or superseded [10:37] by a subsequent resolution of the [10:39] council; replaces any [10:43] prior resolution on the [10:45] same subject matter. [10:49] A proposal, please, put forward by [10:51] Mr. Sylvain Vidal. [10:53] The 4.2 is exactly the same case [10:55] but it's for Mr. Clément Drolet. [10:57] Well, for him it's like an [10:59] update. So, it is proposed to [11:01] appoint Mr. Clément Drolet as [11:03] municipal inspector and to perform [11:05] exactly the same functions as I [11:07] have numbered for my for Mrs. [11:09] Jacinte les Tourneaux. Uh, that's it. [11:12] Proposer, please. Proposed by [11:14] Mr. Pierre Odes. [11:16] Uh, 4.3 is the final rule. [11:22] It is then proposed that regulation [11:24] 618 0726 amending [11:27] zoning regulation 251 110 117 aimed at modifying the [11:31] boundaries of zones R102 107 108 and R12, [11:35] creating zones P71 and R13 113 and adjusting [11:40] the maximum number of dwellings in zones [11:42] R112 R107 R108 R109 R112 and R13 be [11:48] adopted. A [11:50] proposer please, [11:52] this is all the changes for [11:53] the su [11:55] proposed by Mr. Bernard Breton [11:58] in 4.4, uh, it is the subject of a [12:02] public meeting later at 7 p.m. Uh, [12:05] for this regulation, before [12:07] adopting it, I must specify that there are [12:09] corrections that have been made [12:11] for this second regulation. [12:13] simply because the first draft [12:15] regulation was [12:17] missing a paragraph. It's just a [12:19] technical question about [12:22] who was missing some sentences and it doesn't change the [12:23] DNA of the [12:26] regulations. That's the fact that this is [12:28] point 4.4. It [12:31] is then proposed that the second draft [12:33] regulation, uh 6220 08 26, amending [12:37] zoning by-law 2517, [12:40] aimed at modifying the standards governing [12:42] parking lots and at regulating the [12:44] height of garages and sheds in [12:47] proportion to their ground area, [12:49] be adopted. [12:53] a proposal please proposed by [12:55] Mr. Pierre [12:57] on 4.5 5 [13:00] [clears throat] uh yes [13:03] , that too is final settlement. Uh, [13:06] it is proposed that Regulation 623826 [13:09] amending Regulation 25407 concerning the [13:11] management of urban planning regulations [13:16] in order to modify the fee rates [13:18] for the issuance of [13:19] main building permits for [13:22] residential use be adopted. [13:25] Proposer please, [13:28] proposed by Mrs. Nadine Nolet [13:30] on 4.6 6 on Saint-Luc. Adoption of [13:35] toponymic toponyms for new streets in [13:38] development. Whereas the [13:39] municipality of this city wishes to [13:41] formalize the names of the new streets [13:44] and a new park in the territory. [13:46] Whereas the choice of names [13:49] is made to preserve the [13:51] memory of families associated with [13:53] the history and development of this [13:55] church. [13:57] It is then proposed that the [14:00] streets and the new park be named with the [14:02] following odonienmes. [14:04] The street names are rue Bourgau, avenue [14:07] Métot, Avenue Djou, Avenue Odest, rue [14:10] Massicotte and Avenue Lafame. And as for the [14:12] park, it's the hard park. Before concluding [14:16] the proposal, I will let Mr. [14:17] Odest [14:19] explain the subject. [14:22] So, thank you, Ms. Proven. Before [14:24] proceeding with the adoption of these changes, [14:26] I would like to briefly explain the entire [14:27] process that led us to propose [14:30] these names for the new [14:31] residential development streets on the [14:33] Saint-Lou. The objective was to take advantage [14:35] of the creation of this new [14:36] development to preserve a part [14:38] of the collective memory of Saintégapie [14:40] by recognizing that families who, [14:42] in different ways and at [14:43] different times, contribute to [14:45] the history and development of our [14:46] municipality. The [14:49] proposed patterns were [14:51] discussed among the council members during a [14:52] working session on April 2, 2024. [14:56] Furthermore, the established criteria and the [14:58] procedure to be followed by the municipalities [15:00] are inspired by the municipal topographical guide [15:02] document which served as a basis for this discussion [15:04] . In order to [15:07] properly cement [15:08] these choices, we considered [15:10] several elements: seniority, [15:12] continuity of family presence, [15:13] unionization, contribution to [15:15] agricultural and economic development, [15:17] community involvement, and [15:18] in some cases, [15:20] civic and/or municipal contribution. A work, [15:24] pardon, a work of [15:25] documentary research was therefore carried out [15:27] from archival documents relating to [15:29] our local history, municipal archives, [15:31] book 125th, book itself, and so on [15:34] and so forth. Uh, we have returned [15:37] simple and verifiable elements in order to [15:38] use a common grid to [15:40] document objectively and [15:43] consistently, and the pattern that had already [15:45] been selected. The main objective was not to [15:48] create a scoring system to [15:50] determine which [15:51] families would be the most important in [15:53] Senegal. As for the route, its [15:56] name establishes a direct link with [15:58] the development of the Saint-Luc church as well as [16:00] the natural woodland which is the woodland of the [16:02] olive tree which will be preserved in the heart of the [16:05] new district. I would also like to [16:07] clarify that for the sake of transparency, [16:08] since one of the proposed names is that [16:11] of my family, I did not propose [16:13] the name, nor did I [16:16] participate in the discussions or the [16:18] decision concerning the choice of this [16:19] name. My colleagues, Mrs. [16:22] Provenchier and Mr. Bernard Breton, had to [16:24] locate each of the street names [16:27] from a subdivision project plan [16:28] at the request of Mrs. [16:30] Jacinte les Tourneaux. Les Tourneau [16:32] then forwarded [16:34] the chosen names to the poetry commission so that the [16:36] commission could give a technical opinion in [16:38] relation to the rules of writing, [16:41] terminology and so on and so forth. In [16:43] our case, everything was just [16:45] right. Once the [16:46] resolution is adopted, the names selected by the [16:48] council will then be forwarded to the [16:50] Quebec topography commission, which [16:52] will analyze them according to its own criteria and [16:54] rules. It will then be up to the [16:56] commission to finalize their [16:57] eligibility and the annoying coach to [16:59] proceed with their officialization. [17:02] Thank you, sir. [17:04] I imagine it took someone to propose Mr. [17:06] Bernard Breton for that. Thank you, Ms. Provanchu. [17:10] Point 5, fire safety. Mr. [17:12] Breton. [17:12] Yes, thank you. Good evening. [17:14] In point 5.1, fire school, [17:17] hiring of an instructor monitor. It [17:19] is proposed to proceed with the hiring of [17:21] Mr. Claude Bergeron as an [17:23] instructor for the [17:25] fire school on a part-time basis under [17:27] the working conditions specified in [17:29] the agreement relating to the provision of [17:31] safety incentive training services. [17:35] A proposer, please. [17:37] Proposed by Mr. Pierre Aess. [17:40] 5.2 Authorization to pay codes [17:43] part in prevention insenti to the [17:45] municipality of Saint-Apolinaire. [17:48] It is proposed to authorise the payment [17:49] of the invoices of the municipality of [17:51] Saint-Apolinaire representing the [17:53] part codes for the first 6 months [17:55] of operation of the prevention officer [17:57] in the respective amounts of 858 [18:00] sous and 1709 and 99 sous for a [18:05] total amount of 10290 and 7 sous. non-taxable that [18:10] the funds necessary for this expenditure [18:12] be taken from the budget code [18:14] fire port code a proposer please [18:16] proposed by Mrs. Nadine Nolet [18:19] 5.3 3 requests [18:21] cellular service providers to increase [18:23] network capacity in the territory of [18:25] the municipality. [18:27] It is proposed to ask [18:31] Roger and Vidé au Tron [18:34] to assess the current and future [18:36] cellular capacity needs in [18:38] the municipality. To [18:40] ask these providers to take [18:42] the necessary steps to increase [18:44] the bandwidth and capacity of their [18:47] infrastructure and cell towers. [18:49] Considering that the capacity and [18:51] reliability of the cellular network [18:52] also constitute a [18:54] public safety issue, particularly in [18:57] anticipation of the Lobinière country festival [18:59] and in order to respond to the [19:01] current and future growth of the population. To [19:04] forward a copy of this [19:06] resolution to Telus Belle Mobility RER and [19:10] Videotron for appropriate follow-up. [19:14] Proposer please, proposed by [19:17] 5.4 4, repair of the valves on [19:20] fire truck number 723. He proposed [19:23] to accept the service offer from the [19:25] fire truck dealer [19:27] Arsenal Thibau and Associates Incorporated in the [19:30] amount of 4536.80 [19:32] plus taxes for the repair of the [19:35] valve representing a leak [19:37] on fire truck 723. That the [19:40] funds necessary for this expense be [19:42] taken from the [19:44] maintenance and repair budget line. [19:46] A proposal, please, put forward by [19:48] Mr. Bernard Breton. [19:50] Thank you, Mr. Breton. At point 6, [19:52] Mr. Drin. Yes, thank you. Item 6.01: [19:56] Submission of the report by the [19:57] Deputy Director General on the hiring [19:59] of non-unionized employees. The [20:01] Deputy Director General in accordance with [20:02] Article 3 of Regulation No. [20:04] 480-03-20 [20:07] concerning the delegation of power to the [20:09] Director General for the hiring of [20:11] salaried staff not syé the [20:13] municipality files the following list of [20:15] persons hired for the [20:19] mil [20:20] juliette of [20:24] attendants to the cascute [20:29] a non-proposer filing proposer please [20:32] propose by Nazine [20:34] the point 6.02 02 GH Vermit sports centre [20:38] replacement of infirmary counter furniture [20:40] . [20:42] Whereas the furniture with [20:44] the infirmary had to be dismantled as [20:46] part of the work to replace the [20:47] floor covering of this room, whereas [20:50] three companies were [20:51] asked to carry out the [20:52] work including Mathieu Vancencour and Bénis [20:54] Architectural, L'Établi Atelier des [20:56] Ministeries Incorporé [20:58] and Armoire de Cuisine en Paix, [21:00] and only one was able to carry it out [21:02] within the [21:04] requested timeframe. He proposed to accept the [21:06] AP kitchen cabinet service offer in the [21:08] amount of [21:10] $3255 plus tax and that the funds [21:12] necessary for this departure be ready in the [21:14] same building code arena [21:16] expansion. [21:18] A nominator please, nominated by [21:20] Mr. Syvid. [21:21] Item 6.03 03 Bourivage school requests [21:24] authorization to hold a [21:25] 5 km race on October 14, 2020. [21:28] Whereas the physical education teachers [21:30] of Beauavage school wish to [21:32] hold a 5 km race for the [21:34] 5th grade students. Given that the race will take place [21:36] on a course including [21:38] some municipal streets, the [21:40] Black Gre path and the cycle path. [21:42] Given that no street closure is [21:43] necessary and that it is also not [21:46] required to obtain authorizations [21:48] from the Ministry of Transport or the [21:50] Sûreté du Québec. [21:51] It is proposed to allow the [21:53] physical education teachers of [21:54] Bourbage school to hold a [21:56] 5 km race on October 14, 2026 between 10:45 a.m. and [22:00] 12:15 p.m. according to the conditions stated in [22:03] the expectations of the Qu [22:05] a proposer please proposed by [22:07] Mr. Bernard Breton [22:08] 6.04 04 GH sports centre [22:11] Mutualization of a budget for the purchase of [22:13] a refrigerator at the cascou given that [22:15] the refrigerator currently used at the [22:17] cascou of the arena has [22:19] recurring operating problems and no longer [22:21] adequately meets the needs of [22:23] operations. It is proposed to authorize [22:25] a maximum budget of $5,000 plus [22:27] tax to Patrick Boucher, Director of [22:29] Recreation, for the acquisition of a new [22:30] refrigerator for the Arena group case [22:32] to replace the [22:34] existing equipment which has [22:36] recurring operating problems. The [22:39] necessary funds for this expenditure should be under [22:40] the budget code for furniture and [22:42] equipment. Proposer, [22:45] please, [22:46] Mr. Proposer, [22:48] 6.05.05 Recreation Department, authorization [22:51] for payment of signage. For [22:53] the purchase of signage, it is proposed [22:55] to authorize Patrice Boucher, Director [22:57] of Recreation, to pay the invoice to [22:59] Signage des Vies at a cost of [23:02] $4,247 plus tax related to the purchase of [23:04] signage for the [23:06] Contrôle de Lumière festival. The [23:08] necessary funds for this expenditure should be under [23:09] the budget code for other [23:11] elected bodies. The Contrôle de [23:14] Lumière festival should reimburse the municipality for [23:15] 50% of the invoice cost, [23:18] excluding applicable taxes. [23:22] A proposer please, proposed by [23:23] Mr. Pierre, [23:25] 6.06 GH Vermet sports center, [23:28] time authorization at Simco [23:30] refrigeration. He proposed authorizing [23:32] Patrice Boucher, Director of Recreation, to [23:34] pay the SIMC Refrigeration bill at a [23:36] cost of 6339.25 plus tax for [23:40] work carried out following a leak that [23:41] occurred during the cleaning of the [23:43] rent's gutters. He suggested that the [23:45] necessary funds for this expense be taken from [23:46] the budget code for maintenance. A [23:49] proponent, please, proposed by [23:52] Mr. Bernard Breton. Thank you, sir. [23:55] Item 7: Approval of the accounts. Madam. [23:57] Item 7: Approval of the accounts for the month. [24:00] While the council members [24:02] received the list of accounts payable 72 [24:04] hours prior and were [24:06] aware of it, [24:08] the list of compressible [24:10] and incompressible accounts for AU 2026 in the amount [24:13] of 1382822, [24:18] including salaries, be adopted [24:21] as presented and detailed as [24:23] follows. salary [24:27] $162,385 and 14 cents. Supplier account [24:31] 46,475,616 [24:35] dollars and 82 cents; supplier account [24:38] disbursed 744,820 [24:41] dollars and 56 cents. [24:45] A proposal, please, proposed by [24:48] Mr. Pierre. Thank you madam, [24:51] welcome. [24:52] We will have reached the [24:54] question period. [25:20] Good evening. Good evening. Micro walking? Yes, yes [25:23] sir. [25:26] Can you get back to me the answer regarding the [25:28] rules for question periods? I understand that we're [25:31] only taking 2 minutes [25:32] to ask you a question. [25:34] Yeah. Yeah. And you can come back from the [25:37] plane. [25:38] OK. Okay, [25:42] I have the first question as such. [25:44] Uh, we started to sort a little bit about the... the... the... [25:47] that you do per [25:49] month. [25:50] You want to mention that he had a [25:51] million-something going on there in expenses per [25:54] month. [25:55] Your budget is 9 million [25:58] for expenses, but here every month [26:01] it's one million in expenses. How [26:02] can you reach 9 million if you [26:04] spend 1 million per month? Be careful [26:07] here because loan regulations [26:10] like the Arena are not in my annual budget, the [26:14] black laughter is not in my [26:16] annual budget, it is an expense, there is [26:19] a part that goes into the expenses, what [26:24] is in my budget are the [26:25] fixed costs and yes and the [26:28] supplier accounts disbursed from 744820, [26:32] that is the suppliers that I pay at the [26:33] same time as the Arena loan regulations and then F [26:37] potable. [26:38] Yeah, but still, your budget of 9 [26:39] million covers all the expenses [26:41] you're talking about every month. [26:43] Yeah, but those are two different things. I have my [26:45] annual budget which I respect, including [26:46] fixed expenses like salary and everything else. Then [26:49] I have a fund disbursement account that I will [26:52] have disbursements to pay for [26:55] Ben, that's in 1 million, that's [26:56] disbursed there. [26:59] Yes yes. That includes everything. That's it, [27:01] supplier salary and supplier of, [27:04] so how do you get there, you [27:06] budgeted 9 million for the year, [27:11] that [27:13] in your budget, you said for [27:14] 2026, [27:15] or [27:16] you have a budget of not far from 9 [27:17] million [27:18] for expenses, [27:19] or [27:19] ok, but you have expenses of 1 million [27:21] per month, yeah, in my opinion, there are [27:22] 12 months in a year, yeah, [27:25] so 12 x 1 million makes not far from [27:27] 12 million, [27:28] but if you budgeted 9 million, [27:31] there is 3 million, but I don't know how to get it [27:32] . OK, that's [27:34] my question. [27:34] OK. Yeah, it's because I think you don't understand [27:36] . I have my annual budget of [27:38] 9 million which includes all [27:39] prefixes, salaries, [27:42] budgeted expenses from the previous year. There, we have [27:45] expenses to pay, as I said [27:46] earlier, Arena's fees of 5 million for [27:49] the Renault. She was [27:50] n't talking about the 1 million [27:51] . [27:52] Yes, it's an outlay of [27:54] $744,820. [27:55] OK. That includes the suppliers, that [27:57] includes salaries, that includes [27:58] fixed costs. [27:59] No, the supplier account is a different [28:00] account, it's 49000. [28:01] That means you have 700,700 and some [28:03] dollars in funds, that's it [28:06] . [28:07] OK. [28:08] No no no listen, we've been [28:09] walking for years. It's less about how it [28:11] works. [28:13] The figures are analyzed in more detail. [28:15] Yeah. [28:16] Another question. Should I sit down and then get up again [28:18] afterwards, or not? [28:19] No, that's a minute, [28:20] okay? No, not in more minutes. Minute on [28:23] the dot, here and there. Oh yeah, that's right. OK. [28:27] Yes. Sir, someone else [28:30] ? [28:31] Yeah. Go for it. Mr. OK. [28:34] Again, I discussed the [28:36] monthly expenses for April, [28:39] May, June, and August; there were [28:41] lawyer fees that varied, not far [28:43] from $20,000. Can we get [28:45] a little more detail on that [28:46] ? Among other things, the file there [28:49] which has almost 12000 dollars with [28:51] their Saint-Luc with you, what did it mean to [28:54] mark file [28:57] Yve Gingra of Saint-Luc urban planner [29:00] or [29:03] have the advantage of that [29:04] no I want to know what it is because it is [29:09] meetings that we have [29:10] meetings with the pr Mr. Pierre [29:13] Livreet who is lawyer for the present, he is the one [29:16] who coordinates the meetings the minutes the [29:19] contracts it is [29:21] probably these fees [29:23] you are referring to [29:24] ok mark ging it is me yeah [29:29] I know it is you there [29:32] but are these relatives you [29:33] received [29:34] from the si Saint-Luc that's what [29:37] I wanted to know. OK. No, no [29:39] , it's not there. The other three [29:41] amounts are $4000 per [29:43] month. There are professional and [29:46] then legal aspects. [29:48] Yeah. [29:49] What could this be related to? Mr. [29:50] Pierre Olivier Fradette for the [29:51] memorandum of understanding with the promoters. [29:53] The [29:53] memorandum of understanding concerning the [29:55] industrial development of Saint-Lieux [29:57] with the promoters. [29:58] OK. The other months, April, May, June, [30:01] well, there are email agencies, there is [30:03] research work that is [30:06] done. That's it, that's it, that's all of it. Ah yes, [30:09] the lawyer works every month. That's [30:11] it. It's not that there are [30:13] communication exchanges between the promotions and [30:16] Pierre Fred, and even between us and the CEO. [30:20] But are you aware that this law firm doesn't charge [30:22] 200 dollars a piece? [30:24] Yeah. [30:25] They are very expensive. It's one of the most [30:26] popular in Quebec City. [30:27] Yeah. [30:28] Did you have a [30:29] particular reason for choosing one of the [30:30] most prone to delaying legal proceedings? More [30:33] suspenseful, that's what you say [30:34] anyway. No, what I'm [30:36] telling you is that we've been doing this for [30:37] years, that's what we've been doing. [30:44] No, but you can't just go out to [30:45] tender with law firms and [30:46] lawyers to say we'll find someone [30:48] cheaper, maybe more local, [30:50] and not a trap at the moment. It's too late [30:52] to talk, it's been 4 years since we've been doing this, Mr. [30:55] Freight, [30:55] okay, but there's always time to change [30:56] too. [30:57] We're on the signing protocol, there's [30:59] still a meeting with the contractors on [31:00] September 14th, so you'll close it [31:03] too, precisely. Well, after that you'll be [31:05] able to choose a lawyer or, well, [31:07] no, the whole protocol will be [31:09] drafted, the work will start, [31:11] the city will sign, the developers will sign, [31:13] the work will start, there will be [31:17] a little follow-up to do from time to time, basically, [31:19] after that you won't [31:22] need [31:24] to take any more film, the most Quebec. [31:27] Yeah. OK. Let someone else have my turn [31:30] . Yeah, sir. [31:38] [clears throat] [31:40] Uh, good evening. [31:42] Uh, first things first, p the [31:46] road. [31:48] Yeah. Finished. [31:55] Mr. Mayor, it is necessary quite [31:57] often, and there are not many people [32:00] working on it. There was [32:02] the general assembly of [32:03] government engineers 3 weeks ago, [32:06] I don't even know if they are working on it. [32:09] Listen to us, it will be finished by the end of [32:11] September, it will be finished by [32:13] September, yeah, [32:14] because we scheduled the Draaux [32:15] road to the jump in October, far from it, [32:20] the Dado road [32:23] sometimes lacks love. [32:25] Yeah. [32:26] I don't know if you've been there. Yes [32:28] sir. [32:29] It would be much easier for me to go up [32:31] into the field than to go through the [32:32] road. [32:34] Yeah. [32:35] Surely and definitely not a road [32:37] that is made for knowing that the world [32:41] only does that, [32:42] uh, I have the right to another question. [32:44] Yeah, [32:45] you don't have more than 2 minutes [32:48] when we want to get a [32:50] regulation adopted. [32:52] Not adopted. Your [32:54] regulation has been adopted, but we want to do it. How could [32:57] I have told you before? It needs to be [32:59] practiced in people's homes. [33:02] If you ask about urban planning, [33:05] they talk about a prosecutor. In this case, should [33:10] the [33:13] facts presented be presented to the municipal prosecutor or to the [33:17] MRC prosecutor? [33:20] That's my question. OK. [33:22] because we are presenting things that are [33:24] not appropriate in the neighborhood. [33:27] OK. [33:28] Then we try with the urban planner [33:31] of Saintégapi, [33:32] Mr. Drolette, accordingly. [33:33] Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Then madam, madam, [33:37] sir are from [33:38] Yeah. Right now, it's Mr. [33:40] Yes. [33:41] Facts are presented, photos are shown here and there. [33:45] We are talking about a prosecutor from the MRC who went [33:47] there before [33:49] the regulation was enforced. That's the word [33:50] I was looking for. [33:51] OK. OK. [33:51] Apply the rule you have [33:53] made. [33:54] OK. [33:55] And it is the MRC prosecutor [33:57] or the municipal prosecutor who needs to give their opinion [33:59] . [34:01] In other words, you filed a complaint. [34:03] Not just me. [34:04] OK. OK. Do [34:06] you have anything, Mr. Mayor? [34:07] The file is now in the hands of our [34:09] urban planner. [34:10] Yes sir. [34:10] Here's an update on the case. [34:12] We ask clear questions. [34:13] OK. I am [34:14] told that we went to the [34:16] MRC prosecutor if I heard the [34:18] last one correctly. [34:19] OK. OK [34:19] because it annoys us, [34:21] OK, [34:21] and a good part of the people on the street of the [34:24] college and the normal street, [34:25] OK sir madam, you are the urban planning committee, don't go looking into this [34:29] with Mr. Drol and then Mrs. [34:33] Procure, yeah yeah, [34:34] but if Clément told you about this, what did he [34:37] tell you? Did he hear that he was going to come back to you [34:39] with this, or yeah, [34:42] it's true that he can't hear me, yeah, I don't know, [34:44] but [34:46] I don't know if I already have a task on the [34:49] file before I start talking. [34:50] But is it possible that when we [34:53] last talked to you about this, it was [34:54] more of a [34:58] police case, but that's no longer the case now? That's it, [35:00] sir, [35:01] it's part of this whirlwind, [35:02] madam. [35:03] OK. That's [35:04] part of the DPJ, that's part [35:06] of the police, that's part of the [35:07] municipality. [35:08] OK. [35:08] But nobody inseminated me. [35:11] I no longer feel safe on [35:13] Normand Saint-Dire Street. [35:14] OK. Do [35:14] you understand me and my family? Do you want [35:16] me to check with Mr. Dr. so [35:18] that you can tell the [35:21] prosecutor [35:22] what we expect to do to clean things up, [35:28] but inform yourself, like, yeah, do I have any, is it [35:30] you in [35:33] particular at your place because I need to [35:35] know exactly, if I, it was [35:36] me who spoke, Mr. Dr., there is another, another [35:38] person from the [35:41] college, I'm getting ahead of myself, yeah, it's [35:43] definitely filmed, yeah, [35:45] I'm just getting involved. [35:47] But then sir, we'll come back to that, [35:48] we can look at that, but if that's it, it [35:50] could be, [35:51] or what we're asking for, a malon piqu, [35:54] is to enforce [35:57] the regulations that you made, [35:59] or as well as a [36:00] dog on a leash, yeah, indeed, okay, yeah, [36:05] just [36:06] your file concerns, as far as we, [36:08] the municipality, are concerned, it's a [36:10] violation that could be, that should [36:12] be enforced, that's it, okay, [36:14] because sir, passed through my [36:16] property. He wasn't too far off [36:19] because if he could have [36:21] gotten between the dog and the wall, he would have [36:23] . Why do I [36:25] know this? Because I have cameras [36:27] all around my house. Do [36:29] you understand ? We've been [36:31] forced to [36:34] organize ourselves like this for a year now. As for the neighbors [36:36] on the street, look there, a lady, it's the [36:39] street of the college so as [36:41] not to get harassed by the neighbor. [36:43] A screen was placed over his [36:45] account gallery. That's normal. I've been [36:49] living in his house for 44 years. If you [36:52] have a case of mine, come and [36:55] talk to me about it. You'll see that it's going to be [36:57] okay. [37:00] It's not true that I see things happening when someone moves from [37:03] Saint. You won't [37:06] even create that kind of place where we can [37:08] go. [37:09] Yeah, [37:09] because we've let go, [37:13] you'll come back in private Mr. La [37:15] Roche [37:18] if we come back to you next month so [37:20] I can talk to you, is that okay with you [37:21] ? Oh yes, anyway, [37:24] I'm going to make some rancid cheeses, [37:26] I have one to make tomorrow, I'm going to [37:28] make one next week and so on [37:29] . [37:33] Other questions. [37:34] I just want to add a parenthetical remark. [37:37] Look with your people at everything you do to [37:40] steal from the municipality. [37:43] Oh yeah, [37:43] look at that. [37:44] Yeah. [37:45] And I have a suspect. [37:48] A major vandal, too. Don't [37:51] talk about band, I'm talking about theft among [37:53] other [37:59] things [38:01] [grunt] [38:09] no [38:11] uh in the session of June 1st a [38:14] citizen that we ask you to know his [38:16] possibility of paying [38:17] municipal taxes in 12 months because this [38:19] file is advanced for the [38:21] general population of Saint-Ag. [38:23] No, we didn't work. [38:24] You haven't worked on that? [38:25] No. No, because it's [38:28] something that's [38:29] important to you to help citizens [38:34] adopt the 6 psuis. Listen to how we're [38:38] discussing this, there's nothing stopping [38:39] anyone from paying that in 12. For me it's [38:41] tax. [38:43] We don't have our compositions. [38:47] Yeah, but I think it's worth [38:48] adding it there. But can [38:50] the municipality be flexible enough to [38:52] tell a citizen that they can pay [38:54] municipal taxes over 12 months, [38:57] or will there be other people who will [38:58] come here crying and shouting that they are in dire [38:59] straits? Yeah [39:02] but no for now we have the 106 months it's [39:04] 6 months don't do anything for that [39:06] for now yeah ok [39:07] last question there is citizen of the [39:10] last council meetings I reported [39:13] that the agenda on the internet did [39:16] not have the figures mentioned [39:18] on the agenda that we come to collect [39:20] at the door here precisely the transparency [39:23] I asked maybe to put that equal to that [39:26] one reason why it has not been done [39:27] yet [39:30] on the agenda of the day The agenda of the day that we used to [39:32] collect at the door, I had the amounts [39:35] or [39:35] when we go on the internet on the [39:38] municipal website the figures are [39:40] not there. [39:43] OK. But next on the agenda, [39:44] is it possible for it to be [39:47] included there? Because you're hiding [39:49] certain information that people ca [39:50] n't access here. He knew about [39:53] the municipality's daily agenda on the [39:55] site. [39:56] Yeah, [39:56] but there's some missing information. [40:01] So it's possible to have the [40:02] figures at the same time here. What [40:03] difference does it make? [40:05] But that changes things; tonight we'll adopt [40:08] tonight's session. The internet will be back up in [40:09] the next few days. [40:11] Yes sir, who want to go and get [40:13] the agenda. Yeah, I [40:15] watched it online first. We don't have [40:17] all the information. [40:19] Yeah, [40:19] not everyone can come [40:20] here tonight. [40:21] OK. OK. Yeah. [40:22] So you write it one way or [40:24] another, I just got online there. [40:27] Ah, okay. Okay. On the internet. [40:28] Yes. OK. [40:30] That's something that can be [40:32] done too. The next [40:39] day [40:41] you already do it, just take his copy [40:43] there and put on the internet all the [40:44] information [40:50] municipalities [40:52] sorry [40:54] municipal com [40:56] I don't know the other municipalities [40:57] I know this information gap you have 5 that [41:03] I don't care about but cagapi you [41:05] already have the figures it's taking his [41:08] copy there and putting them [41:09] on the website [41:10] yeah that's it he can [41:14] put it there [41:16] for the next month of October [41:18] because [41:19] and so on. Yeah, but yes then [41:20] no, it wasn't until later that afternoon [41:22] we had changes to make for the [41:23] rena. [41:24] Yeah, but you're putting it in anyway. [41:25] You do it in the annex as I already [41:27] said, you put that in good evening, that's good, right? [41:30] No, these are open to discussion. [41:33] That's not up for debate. No, [41:34] yeah, they're discussing it with the [41:36] council members. [41:37] OK, you're already doing that. That's it, [41:39] no [41:44] thanks. [clears throat] [41:53] I don't understand, currently it's [41:56] 2026, [41:59] why can't you [42:00] spread the tax bill over 12? I would make it [42:03] mandatory to register, [42:06] so it's not more expensive [42:08] to administer. You created this, [42:11] you copied it, it's [42:14] already me, I joined it yesterday, he [42:18] made the payment. Good evening, I received an [42:20] email saying the payment has gone through [42:22] . OK. Why is [42:24] it for 12 months? [42:25] No, he's 6 months old. [42:26] OK. It's wonderful, I won't forget it [42:30] because you'll understand one [42:31] day that we may not come, sir, that there's [42:35] a certain age that sometimes we [42:37] forget. OK. So if I don't forget it, will sort itself out automatically. We're coming [42:43] with 500 pes as you say. [42:46] You're going to upgrade your patent, by the [42:48] way, it could have had another [42:52] name because the delivery of CG is [42:54] called [42:58] upgrading once in your life, you have to [43:00] put it at 12 months without interest, [43:03] honestly without interest, like you [43:05] do, like you do with me for 6 [43:07] months, then people could budget, [43:11] especially young families, [43:14] look at what's happening around us [43:16] . Look at what's happening in the [43:18] Quebec government, in the [43:20] American government, Mr. Trump is doing [43:22] crazy things, gas is now two [43:24] pieces a litre. Why can't we [43:27] help our young people, perhaps with [43:30] interest rate increases? No [43:33] more encouragement for you other [43:35] programs. For example, force them, you [43:38] will have the 12 months, you will register [43:40] on with dates predetermined by the [43:44] municipality as you did for 6 [43:47] months without benefiting anyone. [43:50] [clears throat] [43:51] Good evening. The one who pays for 12 months [43:55] currently does [43:56] not charge interest because in reality [43:59] the amount there does not arrive as they [44:01] want it, do [44:03] you understand what I mean? [44:05] I don't understand. It's 2026. [44:07] Yeah, [44:08] it's done elsewhere. We can do it again [44:09] elsewhere. Elsewhere. [44:12] there is no [44:13] control room. We have this one, and [44:16] it works. [44:18] Let's see what the software [44:21] that manages it sees there. How much would it [44:24] cost to upgrade it to 12 months? We [44:26] establish the due dates [44:29] of the [throat clearing] tax account [44:31] by dividing by 12 then we offer it to [44:34] everyone but you're going to go there [44:37] your payments will be returned guaranteed [44:39] he has to make sure he has [44:40] money in his account [44:42] we reduce the payment [44:44] then we help people I don't [44:45] understand I don't understand [44:47] why you don't want to help people did [44:48] n't want to keep it anymore the world it's [44:51] not a question of [44:53] one person who authorizes the six per [44:55] year. [44:56] No, no, [44:56] we can, that's what the [44:59] municipal tax budget is about. [45:00] Yes, but where do [45:03] I get my mortgage? Where does [45:05] my bank handle my taxes? [45:08] Yeah, [45:08] three times a year my bank [45:10] pays my municipal taxes and my [45:12] amount comes back to [45:15] you, you don't have to pay any interest on it. [45:17] Oh no well no well no well no. [45:19] Pavance, [45:21] what are you saying? [45:22] Well, I'd like to comment on that, uh, it's [45:23] not a [45:25] question of not wanting to help, it doesn't change [45:28] anything in the end as he says [45:30] because in the end, [45:31] your tax account is 3000, I'm giving [45:33] the figures by hand at the end of the year, [45:34] you have to pay your 3000 coins. [45:36] Yeah, okay. [45:36] but the family, the family there, that he has to [45:38] pay his tax bill, [45:40] let's say every 3 months, well, they can [45:42] ask their bank to take the [45:44] amount each month and then he will be [45:46] paid after 3 months. It doesn't change anything. [45:48] It changes absolutely nothing. [45:49] You don't have that service. Because it's [45:51] possible for others to do it themselves, [45:53] even every month. [45:55] Wait, Mr. La Roche, let me [45:56] finish. If someone wants to [45:58] make their payment there to the municipality, they [46:01] want to make their payment of, I don't know, [46:02] 200 coins per month for their [46:04] tax payment, they can do it. No [46:06] one is going to refuse their [46:07] payment. She can do it through [46:10] her bank, through her savings bank, through [46:12] automatic transfers. That's how it is [46:14] . I [46:14] know, I know. That's why, that's all, [46:16] but why did you create voice there at [46:18] that time? Because it's for [46:20] online payment. [46:21] Oh no, but that's what I want, [46:23] but it's not for 12 months, it's for [46:24] 6 months. [46:25] No, but why did you create it? [46:26] That's why you added it, even though I could have [46:29] done it differently. I always [46:31] paid my taxes on the [46:32] due date, either by accessing the system [46:35] to simply facilitate [46:36] payment. But it's just another [46:39] way to pay. But for the person there, we have it [46:41] over 6 months, but for the person [46:43] who wants to pay monthly it's easy [46:46] for them, they just have to make transfers, [46:47] no interest to pay anywhere. [46:49] No, if it does its own [46:51] municipal transfer, you won't find it [46:52] interesting. [46:53] No, it's paid after 3 months. [46:55] No, [46:56] it's paid after 3 months. [46:57] But she has to pay, [47:00] I'll give you another example. I [47:02] 'll give you another example, [47:03] Mr. La Roche, in any case, in [47:04] my own thinking, because we thought about it [47:06] there, we didn't do that. Oh no, [47:09] I thought to myself, the [47:12] person who can't pay the first [47:13] month, [47:15] that could happen. Yeah, and it's [47:16] already happened to me and it must [47:17] happen to lots of people, but at least there are [47:19] two more months to catch up, [47:21] whereas if the person made their [47:23] payments monthly and then ca [47:26] n't pay that particular month, then they'll have [47:28] interest accruing. [47:30] I'd like to see your [47:32] electricity bills, or [47:33] I'm not sure you want to see them [47:35] . It's almost [47:38] certain that you're on the [47:40] payment methods to pay equally 12 months a [47:42] year. [47:44] Ah, well, you chose [47:46] that option because it was [47:47] offered to you, do you understand? Because it's every [47:50] 2 months and sometimes the bills are [47:53] high, especially in winter. Look at this, [47:56] I don't understand, it's easier [48:00] for those who have a budget than that, and we [48:04] need to stop saying that others don't do it [48:05] . [48:07] to go see the [48:09] funds [48:10] but just like that we also looked at [48:13] Mrs. Avid, we spent 4 years on it, we inquired [48:18] with that, the software is very [48:19] expensive, we have to wait until the end of [48:22] the year for, [48:24] I agree with you sir, [48:25] what is the price, expensive, [48:32] the price, we will inform again [48:36] because we will re-inform this fall, [48:38] budget, [48:39] you will do it once in the life [48:42] of the municipality, it will just be [48:43] upgraded by, [48:45] yeah but it's a dog, you have to pay for years, [48:47] it's expensive, yeah [48:48] but it's expensive, the years [48:49] or it's expensive, just pay for years, [48:52] no, what is expensive to be [48:55] upgraded or what is expensive every [48:57] month, [48:58] it's new software, [49:00] okay, we throw it away, owner, you are the [49:02] owner, so you haven't paid per [49:05] month, after that it's annual, [49:11] annually we have to pay a license [49:14] for it to work. Well, you [49:16] imagine that's what it must be [49:19] annually, we pay for a license, it [49:20] works, we already pay for one [49:23] for 6 months, it can't be, so [49:27] we bought the software for 6 months, we [49:29] pay for a license every year, that's it, [49:32] if we're going to have software for 12 [49:34] months, a license every year, it costs, and then we [49:38] code everyone. Yeah. [49:41] Ah, think about it. [49:44] Yeah. Here I am, [49:45] I'm on it, and I'm [49:47] very happy. He made a [49:49] payment there yesterday, I haven't forgotten. Nobody's [49:51] going to be a pain with me. Multiplicity has been [49:52] paid. [49:54] Yeah. Sometimes [49:55] it happens that we weren't [49:57] able to pay. Don't assume that [49:59] everyone will be able to pay by [50:01] 2026. [50:03] Excuse me, I went over 2 minutes. [50:08] Okay, [50:11] that's one last question. In [50:12] August you spoke, you were supposed to be handling the [50:14] financial statements [50:17] for the regional authority. In September, we didn't [50:19] talk about it tonight, we haven't heard from the company yet. Okay, what's [50:28] planned for [50:29] October? [50:31] It'll be a year since the region left, and [50:32] we haven't had any information. We had [50:34] one meeting [50:36] after that, and we have no figures, no [50:41] expenditures, nothing at all. [50:42] Then we have the 2025 budget filing, [50:46] everything will be done at the same time, [50:49] but 2025, 2026, winter, [50:52] no, the regional authority, it'll be good, who files [50:54] 2024, 2024, [50:57] the regional authority, it wasn't 2024, okay, [51:02] but we'll know, the information [51:03] given to me on that, figures, [51:05] yes, we're filing the 2025 budget, it's [51:07] the Saint-Julien team soon, [51:09] it would be done, I won't [51:11] announce it online. [51:12] For September, [51:14] I don't know, it'll be the company, we're [51:16] waiting, happy, okay, [51:18] to see [51:21] the regional authority, there, it's the beginner. 2024 with [51:23] its [51:24] closing that year after the [51:26] accountants there we'll do 2025 that saint that you [51:32] see we had figures there yeah yes [51:34] present [51:36] in October [51:37] 2025 for the board yeah [51:39] 2025 2026 [51:40] No no 25 well [51:42] 26 winter 2026 no it's [51:45] January 1st to December 31st the [51:46] financial years sir my [51:47] yeah that means the part in [51:48] October November 2025 Saint-G but [51:50] Saint-Gava already operated before we'll see [51:53] the board there said dirty juice 2025 [51:56] yeah snow at that time sorry there is [51:58] no snow [52:00] I know but that's what we'll do we'll [52:02] train 2025 [52:03] it's next year in a year there we'll [52:06] train 2025 nothing to know how it will [52:09] cost the salaries [52:10] machinery repairs 2025 [52:13] garage. [52:13] Yeah. In the fall of 2025, when we turn over a [52:16] suit, we're going to see everything. [52:18] Ah, okay. [52:19] OK. [52:29] No further questions. We are going to form [52:31] the assembly. [52:33] Ah yes, that's right, adopt [52:35] the minutes of this evening proposed by [52:41] sir. [52:42] Thank you everyone. Good evening, [52:44] I'm coming. How ?