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So it's 8pm. So good evening and

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welcome to this extraordinary

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budget session on Monday, January 26, 2026.

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I now officially

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open the session. I would

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need a nominator for the adoption of the

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agenda.

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THANKS.

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So before giving the floor to the

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gentleman,

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I wanted to read a few words to you. So

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it goes like this. So dear citizens,

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colleagues of the municipal council, ladies and

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gentlemen, thank you for being present this evening

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for this presentation of the

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municipal budget. This is an important time of year

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to introduce ourselves and

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explain our choices, and above all to

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demonstrate how we are planning

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the future of our municipality.

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This year, the budgetary context is

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particular, notably due to

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the entry into force of a new

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land tax roll which is changing the value of

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properties in our territory. At the

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same time, we also have to deal

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with an increase in expenses, like

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several municipalities are currently doing.

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The costs associated with

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infrastructure maintenance, roads, snow

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removal, citizen services,

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contracts, materials and even

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energy have all increased. We must

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also not overlook the impact of

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the increase in the land tax on the tax

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codes of our municipality. In addition to this, there are

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unavoidable obligations such as improving the

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quality of our services, maintaining and

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even increasing security, supporting our

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organizations and responding to the

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growing needs of our community.

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Despite these challenges, we have worked

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with a clear objective: to

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present you with a realistic, balanced,

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and forward-looking budget. A budget that

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protects essential services and

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plans for

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necessary investments.

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I want to make it clear to you that an increase

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in property assessment does not

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automatically mean an equivalent increase

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in your tax bill, but it does

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require adjustments, balance

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and rigorous management to distribute

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the

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spending pressure as fairly as possible using the

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tools at our disposal.

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Tonight, we will therefore explain

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the main directions, the

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main expenditure items and the impact of the

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new land role on taxation. in

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the simplest and

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clearest way possible. Thank you in

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advance for your attention and

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interest. Your participation is

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important because this budget belongs to

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the municipality and to our

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crazy community. So before giving the floor to the

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gentleman, I would like to clarify that the

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question period will be at the end of

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all the points on the

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agenda. So without further ado, sir,

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I give you the floor.

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Thank you very much, madam. So,

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let's get started, ready? We will actually begin

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by talking about the land role, as

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Madame la Meresse so aptly mentioned.

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So we have a new land role

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for 2026-2027.

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So what does that mean

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overall? This is because, starting from

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January 1, 2026, so actually

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26 days ago, the land register was

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updated. So for a given value of

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1AR, that's

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113601500

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dollars. So that's the value you

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see at the bottom of the screen. So that was

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our value on December 31, 2025.

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So we woke up on January 1,

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2026 and what the municipality was worth in

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terms of land value was

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% higher. So that makes a total of

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$1519737100. So we're going to look a little

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more deeply at this in the

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next few slides before getting

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into the pure and simple budget. So

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what is the role of land ownership? What

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impact could this have and how should

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elected officials and the administration

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work from this? So what you

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need to understand from this slide is that there has been

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an

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average increase. So the houses on

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average, so there are some that have increased

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by less than that, there are some that have

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increased by more than that. So

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the average increase in our

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land role is 36.47

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So we're going to watch a short video that

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will explain to us, in general terms, what a

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property assessment of a residence is.

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So what we just explained to you is

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not actually specific to areas below the

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snow. This is good for all

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municipalities in Quebec. So the

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land register is updated every 3 years

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and in fact there are different methods

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for assessing a residence. And in fact

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what you need to know is that the

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reference value is as of July 1st before the

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filing. So for us it's

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July 1st, 2024. That being said, how does

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all this impact your tax bill,

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the increase in your

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residence tax? And in fact, what we would like to

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propose is to do

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two small examples with you to

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understand what impact this has. And in

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fact, we're going to take an example where the

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value, the increase, and these are

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cases that we'll see in the

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municipality when we see a 71%

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increase in land value. In

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the other example, we are closer to an

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8% increase in

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land values. So these are

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scenarios that we're going to look at and we're just going to

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look together at what that implies in

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terms of the tax account. So if we

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look at this example, so the

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left column in the year 2025, so it is a

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value, a residence, sorry,

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that was worth $356,000 on our

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old property assessment roll. So

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$356,000 will become our

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reference value. So, regarding the

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property tax rate for 2025, the rate

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was 64.7

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cents per 100 dollars. So the

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property tax for that residence of

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$356,000 was

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$2,303.

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We wake up on January 1st, 2026,

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our residence is worth $6100. So

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that represents a 71% increase

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compared to and all of that was evaluated

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in relation to the short video you

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saw, in fact, the

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evaluation methods. So the owner ends

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up with a residence that has increased in

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value by 71% (sorry), and the

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average increase is 36.47

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%. So this particular residence has increased in

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value much more than the

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average value. So what kind of

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impact does that have? Our

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working tool for adjusting

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the land roll is that we take

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the average increase, so 36.47

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%, and we decrease our rate of 100

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dollars by 36.47%. So the goal is actually to bring back

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the

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same amount of money to the municipality between December 31st and January 1st, that's

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our starting value. So we are

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reducing this 64.7

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C which was the rate for 2025 and we are bringing it back

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, we are adjusting it to the value of 2026

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with the increase of 36.47%. That

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rate gives us 47.4 cents per

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$100 of valuation.

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$356,000 in 2025, now in

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2026 it is worth $60,000.

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The adjusted rate of 47.4 cents per

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100 dollars of assessment is applied. So, regarding his

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new tax account, we haven't done anything yet

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. We simply adjusted the

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tax account to create the same revenue stream

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for the municipality. So this

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tax bill now amounts to $2891. So

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this person experienced an

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increase in their tax bill of

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$588. So that's a reality we're going to

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experience. The distribution of

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revenue in the municipality

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based on property values ​​will be

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redistributed within the municipality. The reason for

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this is that there are

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people whose values ​​are very

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far from the 36.47% which is the average.

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So there are people who are very high up

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and people who are much lower down.

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Then through that, well, we have a

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tax rate that we can use, which is

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our tax rate for all

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residences. So we need to lower it by the

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average rate and we start from there for

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2026. So if we take another example,

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perhaps a more fun example

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for the resident. So even in 2025,

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we start with a residence value

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of $356,000 from the previous assessment roll, which will be

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our reference value. So

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here again, we have the $2303 from 2025. The

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new value of this residence in

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2026 is now

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$384,500. So that means an

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8% increase in value. So

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many below 36.47

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%, which is the average rate. So if we

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apply our adjusted 2026 rate, which is

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47.4 cents per $100, the

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new property tax account for

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this staff becomes $1823.

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Therefore, this employee will experience a

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$480 decrease in their

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tax bill. So this is what

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the administration and elected officials had to

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work with as a starting point.

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%. We are lowering the tax rate from

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36.47%, which becomes our new

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reference value. And that's what we

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worked from. So we are

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very aware that depending on the

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increases in land values, there will be

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a

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redistribution in the municipality

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according to the increases you

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have experienced in terms of your resistance.

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If you don't know the

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new property value of your

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residence, if you're interested

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in knowing it before you get your

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tax bill in February, know that we

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have a platform called voilà

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which allows you, by registering, to

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access your new

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property value. So if

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you are interested, you can either

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call us at the municipality or

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go to our website. You

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will have all the information there

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to be able to connect to the

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platform and you will have access to your

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new land value there before

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receiving your tax bill there uh

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in the 3rd week of February.

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So this is the small land role block that we are

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presenting to

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explain the situation for

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2026. So if we jump to the heart of the

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matter regarding the

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2026 budget forecasts, the municipality has

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a 2026 operating budget of

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$11,584,700. So that represents an

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increase of 9.26% compared to

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2025. And I assure you right now

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, this is not the rate

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of increase in taxes, the 9.26, but

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rather the rate of increase in the

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operating budget. So the municipality has

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several sources of revenue including

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property taxes and therefore an adjustment of

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00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,040
some revenues there which means

280
00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,150
that the operating budget goes up to

281
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,399
$11,584,700 which is an increase of

282
00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:55,920
9.26%. We'll see later

283
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in the presentation what that

284
00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:58,959
means in terms of

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property tax.

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Otherwise, we will also present

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our three-year

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capital investment program, so our famous

289
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projects for the coming years which

290
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totals a pre-subsidy amount

291
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,320
of

292
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$27,984,500.

293
00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:18,920
So if we start with revenues, so

294
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at the level of tax revenues, so that's

295
00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:24,560
property tax, we had

296
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,199
a budget in 2025 of

297
00:14:28,199 --> 00:14:32,560
$7,541,000 and a budget in 2026 of

298
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,839
$8,143,000. This can be explained by, uh,

299
00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:37,639
the increase,

300
00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:39,120
the number of residences which is increasing,

301
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,199
people who are making repairs and

302
00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:43,639
also the rate of increase in

303
00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:45,160
property tax which we will see later. Here again

304
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,199
, the 8% does not reflect the

305
00:14:48,199 --> 00:14:49,639
rate of increase in property tax,

306
00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,560
but rather the amalgamation of

307
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,480
the overall increase in

308
00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,639
land value and the tax rate.

309
00:14:57,639 --> 00:14:59,399
Otherwise, in terms of pricing and

310
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compensation, we are

311
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,880
mainly thinking about pricing for

312
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water, tastes, uh,

313
00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:07,720
ritual materials, so collection and

314
00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,959
the ecocentre, we are talking about an increase

315
00:15:09,959 --> 00:15:14,959
of 14%, so we are going from 1,769,900

316
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to

317
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22,200 dollars. Uh, in terms of

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00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,759
transfers, uh, we go from

319
00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:24,079
$179,000 to

320
00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:25,600
$471,300. So that's an increase of

321
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,160
163%. In terms of services rendered, we

322
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,839
go from $216,000 to

323
00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:36,199
$183,200. So mainly because there was

324
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a different distribution between

325
00:15:38,199 --> 00:15:39,959
services rendered and transfers. So these were

326
00:15:39,959 --> 00:15:42,279
elements that were considered

327
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services rendered, which we

328
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transferred in the transfers. So that's where

329
00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,880
the impact comes from. We'll take

330
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the questions at the end. I know yes yes

331
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in the question for those who

332
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are online and who may not have

333
00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:01,279
understood the question so in fact we are being

334
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asked the difference between

335
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transfers and services rendered so at the

336
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level of services rendered the way it was

337
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treated that's really all what results

338
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from

339
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particular agreements so for example we

340
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,279
have an agreement with the city of

341
00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:15,959
Beaupré and they pay us a certain

342
00:16:15,959 --> 00:16:17,600
number of dollars same thing at the

343
00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,000
MTQ level for example We would have a

344
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,880
particular agreement with the others.

345
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,759
So uh, it was considered services

346
00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:24,240
rendered and the transfers, well, it's more

347
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,519
than what is governmental and does

348
00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,480
n't necessarily have an agreement uh that is

349
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,240
related to all of that. So I'll give you an

350
00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000
example. We always get

351
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,680
a 1% refund of the QST.

352
00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,120
So those transfers are part of that from that perspective

353
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,680
. Otherwise, it's fine in terms of taxes and

354
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duties, so mainly

355
00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,319
transfer taxes and

356
00:16:44,319 --> 00:16:46,440
other taxes and duties. So we're

357
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,759
going from $590,000 to

358
00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:52,079
$680,000. So that's a

359
00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:54,440
15% increase in revenue from that side.

360
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,000
Regarding fines and penalties, sorry,

361
00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,959
we're going from $35,000 to

362
00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:00,279
$20,000 and we've come to stick a

363
00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:02,480
little closer to our reality of

364
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,319
the last year where we had overestimated

365
00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,839
our revenues on that side. So,

366
00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,439
in terms of interest, it's still the same

367
00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:11,720
thing. In 2025, we based our projections on

368
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,720
2024 revenues, and we overestimated a bit

369
00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,079
for 2025. So now we're back to

370
00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:17,480
something more reasonable for

371
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,720
2026 at $70,000. Mainly

372
00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,880
, interest is the income that

373
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,319
can be generated from our investments or the

374
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,360
interest that is collected on

375
00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,480
tax accounts, right? So, for people who

376
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,320
come to pay their tax bill late

377
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,280
, interest

378
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,000
accrues. So it's these interests that we're

379
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,400
talking about here. Otherwise, various incomes,

380
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,240
so other incomes,

381
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720
for example, the rural pact is part

382
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,760
of these other incomes. So it's

383
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,520
small incomes like that which we'll

384
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,919
put in the "other" section. And otherwise,

385
00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:52,280
uh, regarding allocations, uh,

386
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,520
last year we planned to use the

387
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,120
$150,000, more or less $150,000, of

388
00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,360
our accumulated surplus. So this year,

389
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,720
uh, what will be the use of the

390
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,240
accumulated surplus there, uh, is uh, it's 0

391
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,559
dollars. So uh there will be no

392
00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:07,000
accumulated surplus that will be used this

393
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,549
year, at least for operations.

394
00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:13,960
In terms of the details of tax revenue,

395
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,400
in terms of property tax, uh, as

396
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,799
I was saying earlier, this

397
00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:20,600
year, if we look at column 2026, we

398
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,360
were at

399
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,480
$8,143,000. Just to give you a little bit of an

400
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,640
idea of ​​the residential

401
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,240
versus non-residential level, so we

402
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,640
often talk about it, you often hear the

403
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,320
council talking about

404
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,159
income diversification, right? You know that there is

405
00:18:35,159 --> 00:18:37,559
strong pressure on

406
00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:39,240
residential land. We don't have much

407
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,240
commerce and we don't have much

408
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,200
industry. So, uh, we demonstrate it

409
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,760
with this slide here. So out of the

410
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,200
$8,143,000, there are $7,386,400

411
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,880
that come from residences, so

412
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,880
people from

413
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,080
residences. And uh for everything that is

414
00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,480
non-residential, so

415
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720
industrial and commercial, we are talking about an

416
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,360
investment of $757,000. In terms of

417
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,799
sector taxes, uh this year we

418
00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,520
go from $407,200 to almost

419
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,320
$400,000, so

420
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,640
$399,200, which represents a

421
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,840
decrease of 2%. And at the

422
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,720
municipal services level, as I was talking about

423
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,280
earlier, the high pricing and

424
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,240
residual material taste and at the

425
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,559
emergency centre level, 911. So we are talking about an

426
00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:31,840
overall increase from 1,346,700

427
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,640
to 1,601,000,

428
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,320
which represents an increase of 14

429
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,600
%.

430
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,799
So in total, if we look at

431
00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,840
property tax, sector tax and

432
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,320
municipal service rates at the

433
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,559
revenue level, if you see at the bottom

434
00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:48,840
in the small green line, we

435
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,640
go from $9,300,000 to

436
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,120
$10,143,000,200, which represents an

437
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,880
increase of 9%. If

438
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,679
you look at the expenses now at the

439
00:20:00,679 --> 00:20:02,559
general administration level, in

440
00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:05,600
2025 we were at $1,928,000.

441
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,240
This year, we are therefore seeing a 2%

442
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,600
increase, bringing it to

443
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480
$1976150. At the level of

444
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,760
public safety, therefore, our code starts from being included

445
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,520
in that budget item. So, we

446
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,360
go from $1,347,500

447
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,240
to

448
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,320
$1,501,000. Uh, in terms of transport, uh,

449
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,440
we go from 2544600

450
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,280
to 2976200.

451
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,760
In this budget item,

452
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,480
mainly, we have everything related to snow

453
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,039
removal contracts. You know

454
00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:40,640
that our snow removal contract was

455
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,440
5 years old, so pre-pandemic. So, we

456
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,880
renewed our snow

457
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,840
removal contract. We have seen a

458
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,159
35% increase in snow

459
00:20:49,159 --> 00:20:51,240
removal costs. This is the increase that

460
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,200
other municipalities and

461
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,200
individuals have experienced throughout the pandemic,

462
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,400
which we were fortunate enough not to have

463
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,400
yet experienced because we

464
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,880
renewed our contract just before the

465
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,280
pandemic. So all of this has caught up with us

466
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,440
this year. So from the

467
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080
summer season of 2025, which has just

468
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,039
begun, we are at a level of snow

469
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,360
removal contract where we have experienced a

470
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,240
35% increase on that side.

471
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,440
Environmental hygiene, uh, so we go from

472
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,960
1251829

473
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320
to 1537000.

474
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,640
So what is included in that is

475
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,279
all the codes part, uh, at the level

476
00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:27,720
of the wastewater treatment plant in Beau Prix. You

477
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,279
know that we are in co-ownership with

478
00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:34,320
Saint-An de Beaupré, Saint-Joischin

479
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,919
Beuprè. Yes, thank you. I have a little, a

480
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,960
little, 2 minutes. So, it

481
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,360
mainly affects this area; you'll see

482
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,400
when we get to the

483
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,200
pricing section, there are some

484
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,919
pretty significant increases on that

485
00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:46,840
side. Well, otherwise, in terms of health and

486
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,600
well-being, it's mainly our

487
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760
codep at the OMH. So a 3%

488
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,880
increase. On that side, we go

489
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,679
from $5000 to $5150. In

490
00:21:56,679 --> 00:21:57,799
terms of urban planning and

491
00:21:57,799 --> 00:21:59,320
economic development, there is a

492
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,919
decrease on that side. So, we go

493
00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:05,440
from $764,000 to $734,000 and

494
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,080
$734,600, sorry. In terms of

495
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,039
leisure and culture, we therefore go from

496
00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:14,679
$90,800 to $129,000,

497
00:22:14,679 --> 00:22:17,559
mainly related to the day camp.

498
00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:19,480
So we still have costs

499
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,000
that have been incurred at the level of the day camp

500
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,279
and the workforce. Uh, and uh, in

501
00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:25,520
terms of financing costs, there's been another

502
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,120
increase, interest rates

503
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,720
have gone up. So we went from

504
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,360
$496,500 to $603,800, which represents a

505
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,279
22% increase for, uh,

506
00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,760
interest charges. So all of this brings us to

507
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,960
a total of 10362900 for 2026

508
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,600
in terms of expenses, which represents

509
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,559
12%. And in terms of

510
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:48,480
capital repayment on

511
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,360
long-term debt, there is a slight decrease.

512
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,240
We had fewer loan settlements

513
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,120
last year. So, we got that because

514
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,760
we were lucky enough to have reduced

515
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,279
our debt there. So we're at 117800

516
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,640
on that side. So, it's more of a

517
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,200
maintenance position with a small decrease

518
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,240
of 1%. So this brings us to a

519
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,720
total expenditure in 2026 of

520
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,159
$11,470,700, therefore an increase of 11%.

521
00:23:17,159 --> 00:23:19,400
In quick succession regarding expenses, I was

522
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,559
talking about part codes, so we

523
00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:24,480
present them here in more detail. Oh,

524
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,120
it extends further. Oh, he's back. Uh, at the

525
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,039
MRC level, so we go from a

526
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,919
share of 691,000 plus or minus 691,000 to

527
00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:36,799
plus or minus 716,000 dollars. Can you

528
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:45,149
give me microphone

529
00:23:45,159 --> 00:23:49,240
1 or 2 like that? Great. We will continue.

530
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,960
So, in terms of Quebec security,

531
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480
we've gone from $961,000 and we've just

532
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,120
passed the million mark. So we're

533
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,200
at

534
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,520
$15,000, which is an increase

535
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,440
of 4.6%. At the OMH level, we are at

536
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,720
3%. So we are, uh, we are within the

537
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,840
standards in that respect. Uh, at the level of

538
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,640
the Quebec metropolitan community,

539
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,320
so the CMQ, we go from $48,500 to

540
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,200
$53,700. So that represents a

541
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,360
10% increase. at the

542
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,279
RENA intermunicipal region level, so

543
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:23,559
we go from 80,000 to 83,500 dollars, so

544
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:27,840
an increase of 4.4%. At the

545
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,480
water treatment plant level, therefore in

546
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,159
collaboration with the city of Beaupré

547
00:24:31,159 --> 00:24:33,279
and other municipalities. And that's where

548
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,159
the Bobless comes in, going from

549
00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:39,039
$245,100 to

550
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:40,559
$386,500. So that represents a

551
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:45,000
50.7% increase in share codes. in

552
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,080
terms of mobile pricing. So, it's

553
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,799
clear that in terms of comparison, we've

554
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,120
introduced an additional service.

555
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,080
It's certain that the increase there is

556
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,360
exploding. So with the 360 ​​bus, we

557
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:00,120
go from a contribution of

558
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,039
$30,000 to $105,000. So,

559
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:03,880
with these additional services, that definitely represents

560
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,399
a difference of 350%. And

561
00:25:07,399 --> 00:25:08,799
otherwise, in terms of contributions to

562
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,760
organizations, we are going from

563
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720
$72,000 to $75,000. So it's a

564
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,039
monetary value of $75,000, right? It is important to

565
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:17,440
know that there are many services

566
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159
rendered, or which are not quantified,

567
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,240
that we will work to monetize and

568
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,320
quantify there in 2026. So it is certain

569
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,440
that our report at the level of the

570
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,880
organizations is much higher there

571
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,799
than the 75,000 dollars monetary that we

572
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:32,000
see there. Uh, but that will be something

573
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960
that we can present to you there, uh,

574
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840
as part of the 2027 budget. So, in

575
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,190
terms of code shares, we are going from

576
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,919
$2,133,000 in 2025 to

577
00:25:44,919 --> 00:25:48,559
$2,430,000 in 2026, which represents a

578
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:51,919
rounded increase of 14%. So you

579
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:53,279
know that in terms of these parts, we don't have

580
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,000
much to say. We

581
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,440
receive the bill and we pay it. So,

582
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,960
it's certain that there are some elements that we

583
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,440
can put in place. So we are

584
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,760
thinking, for example, you will see in

585
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,600
the PTI later, we have a

586
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720
sheathing program for some of our

587
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,240
water pipes. So we are

588
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,559
preparing for the next

589
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,760
characterizations of our

590
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,039
agreement with the city of Beaupré for

591
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,679
the wastewater treatment plant to put ourselves in

592
00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:17,760
a better position and reduce

593
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,159
these codep, at least that is the bet we are

594
00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:22,320
going to take for the next few

595
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,080
years

596
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,440
in terms of the tax rate.

597
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,399
So if we look at this at the residual level,

598
00:26:28,399 --> 00:26:30,520
which is residential, the

599
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,679
2025 rate was 64.7

600
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,200
cents.

601
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,039
So the adjusted rate we were talking about earlier is

602
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:39,799
reduced from 36.47

603
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,480
%, which becomes our reference rate,

604
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,080
to 47.7 cents, and the 2026 rate will be

605
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,640
49.8 cents, which represents an

606
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,760
increase of 2.4 cents, so that

607
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,720
represents an increase of 5%.

608
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,919
Uh, that 5%, uh, comes and is

609
00:26:58,919 --> 00:27:01,520
replicated there on the non-

610
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,559
residential rate, so the commercial rate.

611
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:10,320
So we were at 1 dollar and 14.74 cents

612
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,840
in 2025, we went to 81.4 cents at the

613
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,159
adjusted rate. So we are

614
00:27:17,159 --> 00:27:19,240
increasing everything by 5%, which

615
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,640
gives us a rate of 88.3

616
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,039
cents per 100 dollars at the commercial level

617
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:28,039
for 2026. Agricultural rate, same as

618
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,440
the residential rate. So we go to

619
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,279
49.8 cents per 100 dollars. At the

620
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,640
industrial level, therefore the same as

621
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,480
the commercial level, so we go to 88.3 sous

622
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,240
on the

623
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,320
industrial rate side. And at the level of the

624
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,799
vacant land, the vacant lands

625
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,240
served, so what the elected officials

626
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,519
wanted to send a message from that

627
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,159
side, so we decided to maintain

628
00:27:53,159 --> 00:27:55,240
the rate. So the rate that was at

629
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240
79.5

630
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,080
in 2025 before the adjustment.

631
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,640
So we kept it. Uh, so it's at

632
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,799
8, uh, 80 cents per 100

633
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:07,399
dollars for serviced vacant lots

634
00:28:07,399 --> 00:28:11,110
.

635
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,440
Regarding the tax rates, if

636
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,519
we look at the pricing

637
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,080
now, so regarding

638
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,799
property tax as I was saying, we have gone

639
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,559
to 49.8 cents. If we look at the

640
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,519
vertical column at the 2026 rate, which we will scroll down to the bottom, there is

641
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,159
the

642
00:28:27,159 --> 00:28:28,399
pricing for

643
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:30,919
municipal services, so water, uh, so when we were

644
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:32,799
telling you there that the

645
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,159
increases are very

646
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:37,240
specific in the sense that we look at

647
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960
the 2025 experience and we adjust. So that doesn't

648
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,080
mean that rates won't fall back down

649
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,919
. Here you have rates

650
00:28:42,919 --> 00:28:44,399
that are decreasing, but we really base the

651
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:47,039
2025 rate adjustment on the

652
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,200
2026 rate. So we will base

653
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,600
the 2027 rate adjustment on the

654
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,559
2026 rate. So these are pricing structures.

655
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:54,559
Often there is a little more

656
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,480
volatility. So at the water level, we

657
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,760
go from $116 to $146, which

658
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,480
is an increase of $20. And these

659
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240
are fixed prices for

660
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,480
the residences. So that's a

661
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,279
direct increase of $20

662
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,840
for people who have the ACUC service.

663
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,200
At the sewer level, the price increases from

664
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080
$139 to $173. When we were

665
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,159
looking earlier at the Beaupré

666
00:29:17,159 --> 00:29:18,320
city wastewater treatment plant

667
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,760
, well, that's where

668
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760
it comes to light. So, we're

669
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,480
talking about a 24% increase on

670
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,559
that side in terms of

671
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,360
waste collection. And this year, we deliberately

672
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
separated them there

673
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080
because, as you know, we actually have the

674
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000
municipality bought trucks and we have been

675
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,960
responsible since January 1st for doing

676
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840
the collection ourselves. There were

677
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,919
people who had many fears and

678
00:29:40,919 --> 00:29:42,360
wondered if we would be

679
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,519
able to be profitable or if we would make

680
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:46,600
our money with all of this.

681
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,720
So the rate for 2026 is going

682
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,279
from a rate of $133 to a rate of

683
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:52,760
$136 for the collection of

684
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,880
residual materials. So that's a

685
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120
2% increase on that side. And in

686
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
fact, the other municipalities are not

687
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,120
even being taken into consideration yet.

688
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,360
So you know that this is a project that

689
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,640
is in collaboration with Saint-Joischin

690
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,200
and Saint Titre. So, we could

691
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440
expect, uh, from next year,

692
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
from January 1, 2027, that, uh, there will be

693
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,159
less pressure on the

694
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:14,519
residual collection level because there are

695
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,679
certain expenses that

696
00:30:16,679 --> 00:30:17,880
will be shared with these two

697
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,360
municipalities that this year we

698
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,360
took entirely on ourselves because

699
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,960
these two municipalities are not

700
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,559
yet in our

701
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:26,600
intermunicipal agreement. An interesting fact to

702
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
note is that we have a grant from Mamache

703
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760
on that side for the

704
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,039
waste management colleague. We will be

705
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,640
able to raise $350,000 over 3 years

706
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,960
thanks to this

707
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,039
collaborative project with the two other

708
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:41,600
municipalities, Saint-Joischin and

709
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,840
Saint-Desc. At the level of the COCRs, there was a very

710
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
sharp increase in the volume of

711
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,000
waste that was brought in

712
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,480
2025, and also an increase in

713
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,159
transport costs. So we're talking about an

714
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:57,519
increase directly for the ecocentre

715
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:00,480
. The price has increased from $57 and $50 to

716
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,240
$73. So, these are still

717
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,880
pricings that can be very

718
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,240
volatile depending on the rates and the

719
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,039
tonnage that will be brought to

720
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:11,720
the ecocentre in 2026. But we will

721
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,039
readjust the rate in 2027, but we have had

722
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,519
a very strong increase compared

723
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,159
to 2024 in terms of

724
00:31:19,159 --> 00:31:21,000
the increase in tonnage at

725
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,799
the ecocentre. Otherwise, the

726
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,600
sector taxes, the sector taxes are

727
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,720
actually there, and you will see it in

728
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,600
the tax account example that we will

729
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880
do later. Uh, it's not a tax, it's

730
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,679
an average rate.

731
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:32,720
Not everyone here has

732
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440
sector taxes. So, we just wanted to

733
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200
put it there, but it

734
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440
still decreased by 2% on that side on

735
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,320
average. And otherwise the septic tanks,

736
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,240
so we were at $104 for

737
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,880
the septic tanks. We return in

738
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480
2026 to $99 in terms of

739
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,039
pricing for emptying false

740
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:52,760
septic tanks. That's a 5% decrease on

741
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440
that side.

742
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,240
So, the example of a tax account,

743
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120
how do we take a

744
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,000
house value and then how will all of that end up

745
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,440
there in your

746
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,799
tax account specifically? So we're going to

747
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,440
do an example with all the services,

748
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,399
so that's the example on the left, and we're

749
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:13,159
going to do an example with uh without water

750
00:32:13,159 --> 00:32:14,360
and without sewer, so someone who would

751
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,960
only have the septic tank service

752
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,159
. And uh, for the sake of this,

753
00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:20,639
we took an

754
00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:24,519
average increase in residence which is 36.47%,

755
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,799
so that is the average increase.

756
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,799
So if we start there in all the

757
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,120
services with the vertical column so

758
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
2025 so if we go in bursts so a

759
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,960
residence of 365000 dollars had a

760
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,279
property tax in 2025 of 2362 dollars and

761
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:45,720
rates so of 116 139 133 57

762
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,799
and 50 and a sector tax as I was

763
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,480
telling you which is an average rate which

764
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,480
is applied for everyone

765
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,519
who has the same sector tax if you

766
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,960
have one. And in fact, that brought us

767
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,679
to a tax bill amount of 2980

768
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:03,440
and 50. If we look at the same residence

769
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,480
for 2026, it has increased by 36.47

770
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,639
%, so it is right in line with the average.

771
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:12,120
So the land role in this example

772
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,039
has no impact. So the new

773
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,799
value of the residence is

774
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:19,240
$498,000. So we're talking about a

775
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,440
property tax of $2480, a water and

776
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,919
sewer connection fee of $146, a utility connection fee

777
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,639
of $173,

778
00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:32,240
garbage collection at $136, ecocentre fee at $73 and

779
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,120
a sector tax at $170. So the

780
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,679
total tax bill in this

781
00:33:36,679 --> 00:33:40,159
example would be $3178, which

782
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:41,960
represents an increase of $

783
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,679
197 and $50. In an example without water and sewer connections,

784
00:33:46,679 --> 00:33:48,960
someone who has their

785
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
own well and only the

786
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,720
septic tank is emptied by the

787
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,720
municipality depending on whether it is

788
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840
a primary or

789
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,279
secondary residence. So if we

790
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,480
look, pardon, at the 2025 tax bill in

791
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,200
verp, the same residence was worth

792
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840
$365,000. So we had the same

793
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,800
property taxes of $2362.

794
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320
So, the taxation, the pricing, sorry,

795
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,520
at the level of garbage collection is

796
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,079
$163, the amount for the ecocentre is $

797
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,520
57 and $50, and the emptying of false

798
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,399
septics is $104 in 2025.

799
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:24,720
So that made a tax bill of $

800
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,599
2656 and $50. If we look at

801
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,320
how that translates in 2026. So the residence price

802
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
drops to $498,000. So we're talking about

803
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,800
a property tax of $2480.

804
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,200
Garbage collection at 136, errands at

805
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,520
73, the fake septic tank at 99.

806
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,599
So we're looking at a tax bill of

807
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,839
278 dollars. So for a

808
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:52,320
person without access to education and without taste, that represents an

809
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,430
increase of 131 and 50.

810
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,960
We wanted to show you some,

811
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,839
in fact, we wanted to compare ourselves

812
00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:04,400
with other

813
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,079
municipalities. Often this is done using

814
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,800
the tax rate. So, we

815
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,320
tell you each municipality what

816
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,440
the tax rate is, and for us, we

817
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,040
felt that this wasn't the best

818
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,040
data to present to you. So for those

819
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,560
interested in the Mamache region,

820
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,079
you can search for each

821
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,880
of the municipalities and you will

822
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,280
obtain their financial profile. There is

823
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960
a wealth of relevant information

824
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,440
in these financial profiles. So that's what we went

825
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,880
looking for: the

826
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,079
financial profiles of each of the

827
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,320
municipalities of the MRC of

828
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400
Côte de Beauprix. And one of the

829
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,760
interesting data points we went to look for

830
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,119
was the charges, so the expenses

831
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:46,760
per housing unit. So

832
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
what is the average tax account? Let's

833
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,760
say it like this, uh, at the level of the other

834
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,319
municipalities

835
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,319
of the MRC de la Courte de Beauprix.

836
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,760
So we have the first MRC which

837
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,040
happens to be the average value of

838
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,640
3641 dollars and these are data

839
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,160
which are 2023 and 2024 the

840
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160
financial profiles are always produced there

841
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,680
a year late so for your

842
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000
information uh so if I take the

843
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,800
level of Saint des Caps there we are in

844
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,839
average expenditure per

845
00:36:16,839 --> 00:36:21,040
housing unit of 1947 dollars uh in Saint-

846
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,880
Perron-les-Neiges we are at 2330

847
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,119
dollars so a little higher than

848
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,160
Saint des Caps. At the level of

849
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,440
Saint-Joischin, we are at 3147 dollars.

850
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,520
So there is still a significant

851
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,560
difference. At Beauprix, the price

852
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,920
is $4160. At Saint

853
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480
de Beau, the figure is

854
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,119
$4466. In Château Richer, it's

855
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:49,000
$296. At guardian age, $3724.

856
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,079
And at Bois Châtel, 5373.

857
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,640
So if you look at the graph, the

858
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,200
yellow line represents the average and

859
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,079
the green line represents snow.

860
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:00,400
So we are not telling you

861
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,520
that taxes are going to increase by 1000

862
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,599
pieces in the coming years. That's

863
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,680
not it at all. But in fact I

864
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560
think it's very healthy to compare ourselves

865
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,640
and despite the increases we're

866
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,000
presenting to you today, what we want to

867
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,880
show you is that we are still, we are still,

868
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,560
the charge per

869
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,319
housing unit is still quite low

870
00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:19,680
compared to our comparables at the

871
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,960
MRC level in that respect.

872
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,200
Uh, the same thing applies to the

873
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,359
payroll, we hear that often. That's

874
00:37:26,359 --> 00:37:27,599
a question I've had myself, I've been

875
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,319
in the position for a year now and I'm

876
00:37:29,319 --> 00:37:31,400
often asked about the hiring that's been done in

877
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,040
the past and what that would create in terms of

878
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,119
the payroll. So

879
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:37,880
we did the same thing, we started from the

880
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,280
financial profile that is available

881
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,680
on the MAMACH website and we went and

882
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,160
extracted the percentage of

883
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,000
remuneration, and it is the

884
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,160
overall remuneration, on the

885
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,440
expenses, so the each. So for its

886
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,160
salary cap title, the

887
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,359
overall remuneration represents 24% of

888
00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:58,200
expenses. For Saintfériol, the figure is 27

889
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,079
%. For Saint-Jeoischin, the figure is 22%.

890
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:05,280
For Beauprix, the figure is 33%. For

891
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Saint-Anne, the figure is 28%. For Château

892
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,119
Richier, we're at 30%. For the

893
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,280
guardian angel, we're at 15%. And for Bois

894
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,200
Châtel, we are at 28%. What can

895
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,760
explain data like

896
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Angardien or Saint-Joisin for example

897
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,319
is that often these municipalities

898
00:38:23,319 --> 00:38:25,920
will have agreements with other

899
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,319
municipalities. So for example the

900
00:38:28,319 --> 00:38:29,640
goalkeeper who has agreements with Bois

901
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Châtel which means that yes, he

902
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,040
pays a certain percentage or a

903
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,920
certain amount but it is not

904
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,920
considered as remuneration in the strict

905
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,000
sense. So what we wanted to

906
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,359
demonstrate to you is yes, in fact, there has been

907
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:43,319
an increase in recent

908
00:38:43,319 --> 00:38:45,680
years in terms of payroll

909
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,560
compared to our expenses, but we are still in the

910
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,230
middle of the pack compared to the

911
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,280
other cities and

912
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,280
municipalities in the MRC.

913
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,920
So, madam, this is what

914
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,640
would outline the

915
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920
budgetary situation before moving on to the

916
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,359
three-year investment plan.

917
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:10,040
Thank you so much. So that brings us to

918
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,720
item 3 on our agenda,

919
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,800
presentation and adoption of the

920
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800
2026 budget forecasts. So the

921
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,000
city council adopts the budget for the

922
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,920
2026 fiscal year as presented, a

923
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,870
total of

924
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,560
$12,283,900. The allocations therefore include

925
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,030
repayment of long-term debt of

926
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
$117,800, repayment of

927
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,119
working capital of $193,000, and

928
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,880
election fund of $6,000 for a

929
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,359
total of

930
00:39:44,359 --> 00:39:46,280
$1,306,800.

931
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,560
The total budget less

932
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,920
depreciation of

933
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,400
$921,000 gives

934
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,400
$11,669,700, which is equivalent to our

935
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,760
revenue. So I'm going to take a

936
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,640
proposal.

937
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Propose.

938
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,079
THANKS.

939
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,319
So that brings us to point 4:

940
00:40:04,319 --> 00:40:06,160
presentation and adoption of the

941
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480
three-year capital investment program

942
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,200
2026, 27 and 28. So I'll give you the

943
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,480
floor again.

944
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Yes. So we're going to share the screen for

945
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,079
those who are online. So if we look at it in

946
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:24,000
terms of fixed assets, then for

947
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,440
2026, which is what is planned. Uh, so we are

948
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,920
continuing with the plans and specifications

949
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,720
for the reflection of Notredame and

950
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,280
Petitbourg streets for work that you

951
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,839
will see is planned for 2027. Uh, some

952
00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:38,359
professional services for the

953
00:40:38,359 --> 00:40:39,800
Antoine Bélanger bridge. For those who are wondering

954
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,000
, the Antoine

955
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,040
Bélanger bridge is the one at the entrance to the

956
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,880
municipality. So the MTQ is

957
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,800
evaluating the thinking behind this bridge and

958
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,200
what makes it possible for it to bring

959
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,520
certain professional services to

960
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,359
our side. Otherwise, there are some uh

961
00:40:54,359 --> 00:40:55,359
works. So, we are

962
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:57,119
planning some work on

963
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:01,200
E Touchette Street. Well, otherwise, we have

964
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,800
postponed a PTI that was planned for 2025.

965
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,119
So with what is happening with the redesign

966
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,960
currently, we will have the chance to

967
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,280
start there to look at everything that

968
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,040
is the link to mobility in the heart of the

969
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,560
village. So we call it a

970
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,960
mobility link because we don't yet know if

971
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,119
it will be a sidewalk, if

972
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,640
it will be a multifunctional building, and so on,

973
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,079
we have studies to

974
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,880
push through on that side before we can

975
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,319
talk to you about the solution. Otherwise, we have some

976
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,599
planned discussions regarding the

977
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,680
Saint-Nicolas area. So this amount

978
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,839
covers the plans and specifications for the entire

979
00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:35,480
Saint-Nicolas road and a part under

980
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,440
repair which will be done

981
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,359
internally. Uh otherwise, we are talking about the

982
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:40,920
acquisition of various

983
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,680
fire equipment, so

984
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,680
bunker replacements and purchases uh at the level

985
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,599
of cylinders. Uh, otherwise, we're talking about

986
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,920
driving grip. So again, this

987
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,040
includes the plans and quotes for

988
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,839
everything that needs to be done in terms of

989
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:57,880
sheathing and certain works on that

990
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,440
side which are eligible for

991
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,960
subsidies, by the way.

992
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Uh, otherwise, uh, actually we are in the

993
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,359
project definition phase at the

994
00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:08,000
fire station level. So, we are

995
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,079
asking ourselves the question of whether we

996
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,079
renovate the one we have there or

997
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,119
simply move it to a more

998
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,480
strategic location. So, these are the studies that we're going to

999
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,520
launch this year. Well, otherwise,

1000
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,000
we're replacing vehicles on

1001
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,160
the road, mostly

1002
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,520
service vehicles, so good

1003
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,520
old pickup trucks. Uh, also our

1004
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,839
four-wheeler which is at the end of its life, our

1005
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:29,240
TTT which is at the end of its life and should

1006
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,640
be replaced. Well, here again, we have access

1007
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680
to subsidies from that side. Uh,

1008
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,680
otherwise various parts and equipment at the

1009
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,240
road level for an amount of

1010
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:39,359
$80,000. We're talking about the

1011
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:40,839
installation and replacement of

1012
00:42:40,839 --> 00:42:42,760
various signs in the

1013
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839
municipality for an amount of

1014
00:42:44,839 --> 00:42:47,480
$40,000. Information technology and software. So

1015
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,280
we did some major work last year.

1016
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,520
If you remember computer science and

1017
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,880
software, we had an amount that was

1018
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,559
four times higher than that. So we are back

1019
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:56,960
to stability, so we are no

1020
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,800
longer in the cycle of buying

1021
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,559
computer equipment that is at the

1022
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,319
end of its life. So, we're back to something

1023
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:04,280
that is more, uh, more

1024
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,720
normal in that respect. We've done a lot of

1025
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:06,920
work, so we're taking the

1026
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,240
time to assimilate all of this, to

1027
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,599
make sure we're using each

1028
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:13,319
software program to 100%. Uh, otherwise, at

1029
00:43:13,319 --> 00:43:15,040
our community center, we have to

1030
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,839
update our PFT on

1031
00:43:16,839 --> 00:43:18,920
that side. So the center is number 33 on

1032
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,240
church street. If we have certain

1033
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,880
work to be done at the town hall,

1034
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,079
uh, for a value of $16,000 and

1035
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,839
upgrades to our wells, uh, for

1036
00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:30,960
a value of $15,000. And uh we

1037
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,040
are starting a replacement program here

1038
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,760
actually at the level of the false bournage a

1039
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,440
replacement program but you

1040
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160
will see our pépine in this

1041
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,200
corner there deposit. So we've reached the

1042
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,800
suburbs. So there will be work

1043
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,960
that will have to be done in the

1044
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,119
coming years to ensure that

1045
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,520
the hollows, the processes, pardon, are properly

1046
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,559
excavated and that the water collapse is

1047
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:53,480
happening in the right way on that side. And

1048
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,160
while we're at it, we'll take the opportunity

1049
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,839
to replace some culverts that are at the

1050
00:43:56,839 --> 00:43:58,800
end of their lifespan.

1051
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,359
So we are continuing for 2026 with certain

1052
00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:03,000
furniture acquisitions for an amount

1053
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,800
of $12,500. So don't get

1054
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,040
too attached to the chairs you're

1055
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,359
sitting on. Several of them are nearing the

1056
00:44:08,359 --> 00:44:12,270
end of their lifespan. We wonder if you'll

1057
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,720
be able to stay seated until the end of the evening. So there will

1058
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,200
be some replacements on that

1059
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
side. Uh, otherwise some purchases in the

1060
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,559
leisure sector, so for an amount

1061
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,520
of $1500. Uh, there's a big top that's nearing the

1062
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,720
end of its life, so we have to

1063
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,720
replace it for an amount of

1064
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,599
$20,000. Um, various works at the

1065
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,319
community center in terms of security.

1066
00:44:33,319 --> 00:44:35,000
So, uh, the addition of more

1067
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,520
electronics and some cameras

1068
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520
for an amount of $10,000. Uh,

1069
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,240
acquisitions for the

1070
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,599
tennis court amounting to $15,000.

1071
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,480
Uh, the improvements to the

1072
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,480
pétanque court cost

1073
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,319
$25,000. So we're talking about two sites

1074
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,000
and, uh, the issue of diverse terrain.

1075
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640
So it's a sum that we're keeping

1076
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,040
to make certain

1077
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,920
land acquisitions, uh, if an

1078
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,599
opportunity arises in that area

1079
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,079
. So all of this for an amount

1080
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:08,920
of $184,000 plus the

1081
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,680
$4,123,000 that I presented to you in the

1082
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,839
previous slide, which brings us to

1083
00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:17,880
$4,307,000 for uh 2026.

1084
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,640
If we look at 2027, uh an increase

1085
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,920
in expenses. So rest assured, all of this

1086
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,040
is linked to certain subsidies. So

1087
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,400
he has some projects that we're presenting to you

1088
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,200
today. So if we don't get the

1089
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,240
subsidies, well, there's a

1090
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,520
good chance, it will be up to the

1091
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,960
council to make that decision,

1092
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,319
but we're not moving forward if we do

1093
00:45:35,319 --> 00:45:37,440
n't get those subsidies. So I've

1094
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,920
made a small summary table for you at the end of

1095
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,079
this section. So if we go at it quickly,

1096
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:42,280
well, the reflection on

1097
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,119
Notredame Street is

1098
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,079
$5 million in height. Uh, reflection of

1099
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:47,920
Campanules Street, so we start there

1100
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,880
with the plans and estimates, uh, for

1101
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,599
$20,000. Uh, Pont Antoine Bélanger

1102
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:56,079
again, we are in, uh, we are in

1103
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:57,599
professional services to support

1104
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,599
the MTQ in their studies. Otherwise, we have the

1105
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,240
famous acquisition of the Ballarue that you

1106
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,319
may have seen in recent

1107
00:46:03,319 --> 00:46:05,119
years, which we postpone every

1108
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,079
year. There are some

1109
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:08,760
potential subsidies that we can

1110
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,520
access. So we are waiting to find the right

1111
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,720
time and the right subsidies to

1112
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,359
proceed with the work on

1113
00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:18,400
Eouchette Street, so

1114
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,480
support work that we need to do at the entrance

1115
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
to the street. Uh, otherwise, continue with the

1116
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,200
mobility link, so we are claiming that in

1117
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,200
2027 we will have the solution, so we can

1118
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,400
start doing some work.

1119
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Otherwise, we continue our discussions at the

1120
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,200
Saint-Nicolas level, still under control. Uh

1121
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,119
otherwise the question of certain uh

1122
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:37,440
fire equipment so it's a

1123
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,720
recurring issue the bunkers and slimes

1124
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,359
have a limited lifespan so we

1125
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,480
have to change them uh on a

1126
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,640
recurring basis so uh we are returning an

1127
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,960
investment of $20,000 rather

1128
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,599
than $42,000 for uh

1129
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:51,800
our acquisition in terms of

1130
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200
fire equipment. Otherwise, we have our

1131
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,119
fire engine which is

1132
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,160
slowly approaching the end of its useful life,

1133
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
so it is over 20 years old. So, we will have to

1134
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,960
launch

1135
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,880
professional services to manage all of this.

1136
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,720
Uh, otherwise, we're talking about a

1137
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,440
potential redesign of the royal avenue again

1138
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,680
, depending on the availability of

1139
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640
subsidies. Uh, let's finish the

1140
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,920
planks, okay? Ultimately, the goal

1141
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,119
is to finish the sheathing before the

1142
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,160
next characterization for our

1143
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,559
agreement with Beaupré. So what you need to

1144
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,040
understand is that the less water loss you have

1145
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,480
, the better positioned you are for

1146
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,040
your characterization. So that's why we

1147
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,359
want to hurry up and do this

1148
00:47:30,359 --> 00:47:33,400
work. So we are also talking about the

1149
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,760
plans and estimates for the

1150
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920
potential redesign of Franclot Street. And uh,

1151
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,960
if everything goes as planned at the

1152
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,319
fire station, then we would have

1153
00:47:41,319 --> 00:47:44,000
redone the plans and living quarters this year.

1154
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
So we will be there in tender mode

1155
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,280
for the construction or renovation of

1156
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,240
the fire station. of course, provided there are

1157
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:53,920
subsidies. Uh, we're also talking about

1158
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,200
continuing the

1159
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,319
installations, replacing

1160
00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:57,599
signs for an amount of

1161
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,200
$10,000, and uh, also IT and

1162
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,319
software, we'll have a small

1163
00:48:01,319 --> 00:48:03,440
potential implementation of software

1164
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,720
at the level of the uh fire. So we have an

1165
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,359
installation there which costs around

1166
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:10,559
$20,000. So we will have to

1167
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:13,640
position ourselves for 2027 in that regard. And

1168
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,839
otherwise, uh, we will then enter the phase of

1169
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:18,960
replacing our backhoe.

1170
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,559
So if we continue for 2027, we

1171
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,160
also start planning and estimates

1172
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,920
for the Guilla Street project and we

1173
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,720
continue our

1174
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,160
culvert replacements in the northern suburb because it's

1175
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,079
a 3-year program. So,

1176
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,359
dig up the ditches, replace the

1177
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:37,000
culverts.

1178
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,280
Otherwise, we also enter into a

1179
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,119
process of reflection on the coast of the

1180
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,800
river of rocks. Uh, we're

1181
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,720
also talking about the purchase of a defibrillator, which is

1182
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:46,920
heavily subsidized by the

1183
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,280
government, and lighting at

1184
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Sablière Park, so a $20,000 project

1185
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,839
. And finally, we will

1186
00:48:54,839 --> 00:48:56,960
look at the

1187
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,359
potential development of pickleball courts because we

1188
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:00,799
know that the use of

1189
00:49:00,799 --> 00:49:03,480
tennis courts is more than at

1190
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,640
its full potential. So we are

1191
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
looking at different avenues

1192
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,720
to perhaps reuse the ice

1193
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,760
rink which is very close to the

1194
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,319
barracks to see if we can make

1195
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:16,280
pickleball courts in the summer in that place

1196
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,440
. In short, we are currently

1197
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,880
analyzing several scenarios. Are these

1198
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,440
completely

1199
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,359
separate, completely different plots of land? So that's

1200
00:49:22,359 --> 00:49:25,079
something that we have

1201
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:26,720
on our radar. And for your

1202
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,240
information, these are the

1203
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,160
last things that are

1204
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,520
subsidized. Here, I am talking about

1205
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,280
lighting and landscaping that

1206
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,760
can be subsidized by our

1207
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,920
park and green space fund. So, it's

1208
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,240
a fund that is financed by

1209
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,160
the various housing developments, which

1210
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,720
allows us to use all of that to carry out

1211
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,079
work on our parks and

1212
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,720
green spaces.

1213
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,200
If we look at the

1214
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,240
2028 fixed assets, we had

1215
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,640
started the life plans for

1216
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,640
the bellflower, so it is in 2028 that we

1217
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,559
plan to do the reflection. Uh, at the

1218
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:59,680
level of the Antoine Bélanger bridge, there, uh, this is

1219
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,720
a very

1220
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,400
preliminary amount, but we will have

1221
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,559
connection work to do there with the

1222
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:08,040
city of Beaupré if this agreement

1223
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,280
materializes. So to make a long story

1224
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,319
short, the goal is to have a

1225
00:50:11,319 --> 00:50:13,920
certain form of redundancy, uh, at the

1226
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,720
water level, right. You know, we've

1227
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,079
heard a lot about water in

1228
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:19,400
recent months, in recent

1229
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,960
years. We are in a situation that

1230
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,760
is not problematic, but if

1231
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,040
something happens, we will have a

1232
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,480
certain form of redundancy. So

1233
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,359
the thinking we had was to

1234
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:30,960
connect, to make an agreement and to

1235
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,160
connect at a good price. So if anything

1236
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,599
happens, at least we

1237
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,640
know that we are able to supply

1238
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,599
a good part of the legislative sector of

1239
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,760
the municipality with reasonably

1240
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,520
priced water while we are able to

1241
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,760
make the necessary reflections on

1242
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,559
our side. So this is a

1243
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:47,160
very preliminary amount from that perspective.

1244
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,760
Everything is yet to be defined, but we still need to

1245
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,319
keep a buffer in case

1246
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:51,839
we decide to move forward with this

1247
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:54,680
mitigation strategy. Otherwise, we continue

1248
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,040
the work there on the

1249
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,359
active mobility link. So, there's another

1250
00:50:57,359 --> 00:50:59,520
$200,000 planned from that

1251
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,599
side. So, we still have

1252
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,079
acquisitions at the incendiary level. As I was saying

1253
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:04,240
, it's something that keeps happening

1254
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,520
, we have to be on standby.

1255
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Uh, we have the replacement for the

1256
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,440
fire engine vehicle. So again, it remains to be

1257
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,799
seen how all this will settle in over

1258
00:51:11,799 --> 00:51:13,920
time. But depending on his age

1259
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,480
, we will have to

1260
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,000
replace him if we cannot find

1261
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,280
other solutions. And could this

1262
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,079
other solution be achieved through

1263
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,799
various inter-municipal agreements?

1264
00:51:23,799 --> 00:51:25,480
The answer is yes. So, there is a

1265
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,119
budget allocated for that. Is there going to be

1266
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:28,640
something that

1267
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,960
happens between now and 208? Probably, but

1268
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,760
for now this budget is

1269
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,160
planned. Uh, the reflection on Royal Avenue

1270
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,960
continues, there are still

1271
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,920
potential subsidies that we can seek,

1272
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,640
uh, the reflection on Franclot Street,

1273
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,520
we had deputized the past life in

1274
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,079
2027,

1275
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,000
reflection on Cavé Street for an

1276
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,160
amount of $300,000 if we are

1277
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,319
really talking about the plans and specifications on that

1278
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:56,400
side. Otherwise, well, the end of the

1279
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,119
fire station, so depending on what

1280
00:51:58,119 --> 00:51:59,400
happens with the

1281
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,880
fire station, uh, it will be there in the 2nd

1282
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,760
year of construction and repair.

1283
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,640
So, there will probably be

1284
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,319
residual amounts to expect from that

1285
00:52:07,319 --> 00:52:10,040
side. Otherwise, well, we maintain

1286
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,359
the facilities and

1287
00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:13,079
signage, so another $10,000

1288
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,319
to keep up to date. Information technology and

1289
00:52:15,319 --> 00:52:17,400
software, we're back to our

1290
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,280
usual $20,000

1291
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,240
at the community center level. So

1292
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:22,960
the overhaul will come, the

1293
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,599
urban planning overhaul plan will help us

1294
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,720
in all of this to position ourselves, to know what we

1295
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:27,760
do with our

1296
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,520
community centre. So is it a

1297
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,559
renovation of the 33, is it a

1298
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:35,720
move, so with the

1299
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,040
professional services that we will have done in 2026,

1300
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,319
we will have a good idea. Then the goal

1301
00:52:39,319 --> 00:52:40,720
wasn't to put everything in at the same

1302
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:42,760
time. We're talking about a barracks, so it's

1303
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,119
already something, even if it's

1304
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,160
subsidized, which is a financial burden

1305
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,480
for the municipality. So we're looking further ahead

1306
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,079
in time at the

1307
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,880
community centre and in fact, you know what we

1308
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,559
need to plan for is that

1309
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:58,480
if we move towards a

1310
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,079
potential relocation of the fire station,

1311
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,040
it will create a potential space to

1312
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,359
move a community centre. So that's what needs to be

1313
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:06,880
expected. It's a

1314
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,119
very big game of cat and mouse and

1315
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,240
through all of this, well we have

1316
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:12,640
consultations, we have a refounding which will

1317
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,599
allow us to better position ourselves and

1318
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:16,200
then it will be up to the elected officials to make the

1319
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,559
decisions on that side for the future

1320
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:19,599
of our community centre and

1321
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,920
our box. Otherwise, well, we have the

1322
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,359
reflection of rue Guillaot, you

1323
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,440
remember in 2027, we made, we will have made

1324
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,040
plans and life. So that will be

1325
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,760
the reflection in 2028. Otherwise, we are starting

1326
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,720
the reflection on the island street. Uh

1327
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,680
so these will be the plans and specifications for

1328
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,119
2028 and we continue there this will be the

1329
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,319
last year of our

1330
00:53:38,319 --> 00:53:40,280
replacement plan for the culverts uh in the

1331
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,960
northern suburb uh so another 60,000

1332
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,760
dollars and uh we had started in 2027

1333
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,440
the plans and specifications for the reflection of

1334
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,319
the river of rocks shore. So,

1335
00:53:49,319 --> 00:53:53,240
uh, it will be there in 2028 that these

1336
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:54,839
works are planned. So, to

1337
00:53:54,839 --> 00:53:56,119
summarize, what does that tell us

1338
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:58,160
? Because that's a lot of

1339
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,400
projects, then a lot of

1340
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,880
money, and a lot of years. We do that

1341
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,160
, we look at that in a

1342
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,200
summary table. So if we look at the totals

1343
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,119
to start with, so if we look at

1344
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,319
year 26, we are at

1345
00:54:09,319 --> 00:54:12,240
investments of $4,307,000. So

1346
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,880
the amount in bold at the bottom. For 2027, we

1347
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,470
are at 11,567,500

1348
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,440
and in 2028 1,210,000

1349
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:28,040
for a total over 3 years of 27,984,500.

1350
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,559
So, what I have proposed here,

1351
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,720
what I have proposed to the council, is in

1352
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,680
fact an estimate because not

1353
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,760
everything is the responsibility of the

1354
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,720
municipality. So, at the 2026 level,

1355
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:41,839
we have loan settlements. So these

1356
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:43,119
loan regulations are really

1357
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:44,440
what we borrow and what is

1358
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440
borne by the taxpayers. So, an

1359
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,920
estimate of $217,000 for

1360
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,359
projected subsidies of

1361
00:54:52,359 --> 00:54:54,640
$2,100,000, a use of

1362
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,760
working capital of $60,000 and a

1363
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,000
use of the park and green space fund of

1364
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,359
$40,000. For

1365
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:07,470
the year 2027, uh, again, the projected amount is

1366
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,710
$4,476,000 in loan repayments to be borne by taxpayers, $6,714,000 in projected subsidies,

1367
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:17,839
$

1368
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:20,359
207,500 in working capital,

1369
00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:23,240
and $170,000 in the green space fund. And for

1370
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,829
2028, again, the projected amount for

1371
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:31,079
taxpayer repayments is $4,828,000, with

1372
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:36,390
projected subsidies of $724,000,

1373
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,079
$40,000 in working capital, and

1374
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,319
no use of the green space fund

1375
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:45,039
projected for 2028.

1376
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:46,799
So, Madam, that concludes

1377
00:55:46,799 --> 00:55:51,359
the presentation.

1378
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,319
Thank you so much.

1379
00:55:53,319 --> 00:55:56,079
Therefore, for point 4, the

1380
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:58,200
municipal council adopts the three-year

1381
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,039
capital investment program for 2026, 2027 and 2028 as

1382
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:04,280
presented and therefore provides for

1383
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,400
total investments of

1384
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,000
$27,984,500. I will take a proposal,

1385
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,270
thank you.

1386
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,760
Point 5

1387
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,760
tax rates 2026 that the

1388
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,559
municipal council sets the property tax rates

1389
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:26,039
for the year 2026 as follows.

1390
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:28,839
So, rates per 100 dollars of assessment,

1391
00:56:28,839 --> 00:56:32,880
residual property tax rate at 49.8

1392
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,039
sub, non-residential property tax rate

1393
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,000
at 88.3 sub,

1394
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,280
agricultural property tax rate at 49.8 sub,

1395
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,640
industrial property tax rate at 88.3 sub,

1396
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,160
vacant land tax rate at

1397
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,960
80 sub, sorry, 80 sub.

1398
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,440
I take a proposer,

1399
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,559
Simon R, proposes,

1400
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:02,000
thank you, item 6, adoption of by-law

1401
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,760
26-912

1402
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640
amending by-law 18-746

1403
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,440
concerning waste management, that the

1404
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
municipal council adopts by-law

1405
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,520
number 26-912

1406
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,160
amending by-law number 18-746

1407
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,680
concerning waste management. These

1408
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,240
regulations form an integral part of this

1409
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,039
document as if they were transcribed

1410
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:25,599
in full. I'm going to take a proposal.

1411
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:26,640
Laclair makes a suggestion.

1412
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,920
Thank you, Mr. Leclaire. Item 7,

1413
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,760
adoption of Regulation 26-913

1414
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,960
amending Regulation 94-315

1415
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,799
establishing a compensation tariff

1416
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:39,599
for ACEDuc and sewer services.

1417
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:41,440
That the municipal council adopt by-

1418
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,319
law number 26913 amending by-

1419
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:47,680
law number 94-315

1420
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,079
amending a compensation rate for

1421
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,480
water and sewer services. These

1422
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,079
regulations form an integral part of this

1423
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,920
document as if they were transcribed

1424
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,680
in full. I'll take the offeror.

1425
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,839
Anthony,

1426
00:57:58,839 --> 00:58:01,359
thank you. This brings us to point

1427
00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:03,520
8, the question period. So if you

1428
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,280
have any questions, please come to the

1429
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,079
microphone and introduce yourself. So any

1430
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:09,559
questions about what has just been

1431
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:17,710
presented tonight will be welcome from the

1432
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,270
red team. The

1433
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,920
accounting system there is a little bit

1434
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,640
weakened.

1435
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,280
I don't see any depreciation in your

1436
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,880
expenses

1437
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,190
. Yes, that's

1438
00:58:33,799 --> 00:58:35,079
$921,000.

1439
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:37,000
OK.

1440
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Go ahead sir.

1441
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,119
Yes, they are there, they are worth

1442
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,039
$1,921,000. It was named by the mass

1443
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:46,799
during the adoption of the resolution.

1444
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:51,119
right, there are borrowing costs,

1445
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,039
there is amortization.

1446
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:54,000
I don't know what you're

1447
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,760
reimbursing with [clears throat] what is it

1448
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,319
and depreciation

1449
00:58:59,319 --> 00:59:00,760
is the same? I'm going to give

1450
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,240
the microphone back to the gentleman for the

1451
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,480
technical details because I'm not

1452
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,880
sure I understood your question,

1453
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,920
Mr. Coutur, about

1454
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,079
loan fees.

1455
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,160
Yes.

1456
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:14,309
Tuas of the depreciation. Yes.

1457
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:17,920
Is that included in 1

1458
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,240
uh you know at the level of the

1459
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,400
presentation we do, we take the

1460
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,200
expenses, we add the depreciation,

1461
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,280
so that makes our accounting surplus,

1462
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,160
so our income minus our expenses. Here,

1463
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,359
depreciation is included and from there,

1464
00:59:30,359 --> 00:59:32,319
we make our adjustments to

1465
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:35,799
determine the tax surplus. So

1466
00:59:35,799 --> 00:59:39,880
we add our payment to our

1467
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,240
long-term debt. We first

1468
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,760
deduct the depreciation, then we

1469
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,960
make adjustments to

1470
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,240
our various funds, and that's where we

1471
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,240
determine the tax surplus. What

1472
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,920
the municipality, pardon the MCH, is

1473
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,599
asking us is that the

1474
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:55,760
tax surplus balances, so we must reach

1475
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,280
zero. So what we do at the

1476
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,640
accountant's level is we take and

1477
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,640
consider the 1921000 which is

1478
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,440
the depreciation as an expense. So

1479
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,880
we determine our

1480
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,680
accounting surplus and from there we

1481
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,559
adjust everything fiscally so that

1482
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:12,680
the tax surplus reaches zero. So what we

1483
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,240
presented to you today is

1484
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,440
a tax surplus that reaches zero.

1485
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,280
2nd question on the amortization

1486
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,640
Saint-Nicolas

1487
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,160
we redid it we are redoing it because we

1488
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,839
amortize over a period of 40 years by

1489
01:00:28,839 --> 01:00:33,789
redoing it every 20 years

1490
01:00:33,799 --> 01:00:36,400
in fact it is an excellent question the

1491
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,240
government through the

1492
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,280
treasury board dictates to us the

1493
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,240
amortizations that we must

1494
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,359
put on certain

1495
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:47,039
no in fact I think I am not

1496
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:48,440
certain, I think it is 15 years in terms

1497
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,160
of asphalt. So that's really where it is

1498
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,760
, it's not up to us to decide that. It is

1499
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,440
really dictated there by the

1500
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,960
Treasury Board and even at the level of

1501
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,799
borrowing regulations. It's not us who decide what

1502
01:00:59,799 --> 01:01:05,870
length, what pattern, what

1503
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:06,440
length I see.

1504
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,720
Yes. What length, what period,

1505
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
thank you, how much time do we put in?

1506
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,599
is really said by the

1507
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:13,280
Treasury Board on that side and to my

1508
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,920
knowledge, I haven't done it there, I haven't

1509
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,359
looked at all the borrowing regulations

1510
01:01:16,359 --> 01:01:18,000
that are in force to know if there are

1511
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,559
still borrowing regulations that are

1512
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:22,119
on the Saint-Nicolas rent, I

1513
01:01:22,119 --> 01:01:23,599
would have to validate, I could get back to you

1514
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:24,920
but I don't believe to my

1515
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,760
knowledge that we have as soon as we are

1516
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,839
still paying for

1517
01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:30,200
something that we are going to create a good ball as

1518
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,470
we call it a

1519
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,240
decrease in

1520
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,280
amortization because we are

1521
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,799
forced to redo it faster given that we were doing it

1522
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:45,640
less well. It's

1523
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,119
not certain that in a context it's

1524
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:49,200
less well done, we can create that

1525
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,400
situation. I can do the

1526
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,640
validation there, to my knowledge the

1527
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,240
answer is no, but it's worth

1528
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,599
taking a little look at

1529
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:57,200
that side to make sure we're

1530
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,750
not creating a bubble.

1531
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:09,430
THANKS.

1532
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,960
Robert Pilote, Rue de la Butte.

1533
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Good evening.

1534
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,799
Um, regarding leisure activities, the

1535
01:02:15,799 --> 01:02:18,200
swimming pool file, is there...

1536
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,760
I don't know if there's an agreement, are there any

1537
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,480
provisions?

1538
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,720
Can you give us a quick

1539
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,039
update? Is there anything

1540
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:28,119
in the budget for that?

1541
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,359
Indeed, you had a good eye. No,

1542
01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:32,920
the council decided not to allocate any

1543
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,839
money for the swimming pool project in the

1544
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:39,520
budget. So it was a choice precisely

1545
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,240
considering everything that

1546
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,720
was presented to you, the increase in

1547
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,880
all expenses everywhere,

1548
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,599
all that. So that's it for now

1549
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:52,680
. I didn't put any

1550
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,200
money in your pocket, but what motivates this is whether

1551
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,079
the requests for high prices are

1552
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,400
considered excessive compared to what

1553
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,559
the

1554
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,359
proportional use of Saintféréol would be in

1555
01:03:06,359 --> 01:03:09,039
relation to price and other factors? Well, you

1556
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:10,279
know, I think there's a

1557
01:03:10,279 --> 01:03:12,319
subjective part to it in

1558
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:14,119
the sense that, as you know

1559
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:15,400
, we've been trying

1560
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,559
to reach an agreement with the

1561
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:20,680
pool for several years. Then, uh, you know, just recently, right

1562
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,599
before the holidays,

1563
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,160
anyway, I see, right before the holidays, we,

1564
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,480
the participating municipalities, met to

1565
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:33,789
see if there was anything we could agree on

1566
01:03:33,799 --> 01:03:36,119
. Then the offer that was on

1567
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,119
the table, well for us, it was

1568
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:40,960
still too high compared to the

1569
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,839
amount we

1570
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:45,440
wanted to put into this

1571
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,880
project. We never hid anything at the

1572
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,279
municipal level, did we? We

1573
01:03:48,279 --> 01:03:51,200
would always have liked to be able to be a

1574
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,440
paying user, in our opinion.

1575
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,119
Paying user equals one shell part

1576
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:03,190
plus a price at the door. Uh, but that's not quite right, it's that we have

1577
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,279
the deficit based on

1578
01:04:05,279 --> 01:04:07,520
land values. Probably that's it

1579
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,240
indeed.

1580
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,520
Well, it's

1581
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,319
not always easy at your

1582
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:15,240
prices. Um, one question:

1583
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,119
transfer taxes still bring in quite a lot of

1584
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:18,720
money

1585
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,520
legally because we know that

1586
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,520
the population is aging. I just read

1587
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,720
an article where people say the house is

1588
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,720
big, it's a lot of maintenance, I

1589
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,319
want to go smaller. If someone with a

1590
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:32,799
lower property value wants to

1591
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,559
relocate to a smaller property, do they

1592
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:39,240
pay a transfer tax equal to

1593
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,880
the value of the new

1594
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,599
property,

1595
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:46,079
or do they

1596
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:47,520
not pay it if the property value decreases? Do

1597
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,960
you have the option of doing

1598
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,960
something like that? Would the

1599
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,440
law allow it? Perhaps something

1600
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,880
to consider because

1601
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,240
people look at it and then say, well, the

1602
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,240
house and the land, or it's this, it's that, we're

1603
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,720
years old, we'd rather

1604
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,839
rent, we know there are

1605
01:05:02,839 --> 01:05:04,200
rental projects coming up

1606
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,160
that could be

1607
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,119
interesting, well, maybe that will be

1608
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:09,039
a motivation for those people who have

1609
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,440
adopted Saintol to stay in Saintol.

1610
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,839
For my part,

1611
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:15,720
I've already read something related

1612
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,599
to this, but I don't have the answer to

1613
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,200
your question. I'm not knowledgeable enough,

1614
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,720
I mean, on this subject.

1615
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,279
Perhaps, sir, I don't know if

1616
01:05:23,279 --> 01:05:25,880
you... Firstly, I'm not

1617
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,119
sure I understand the question.

1618
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,960
I have a property worth millions, too

1619
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,039
big. I'm going to get something smaller,

1620
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:35,359
but I'd like to invest in Saintol.

1621
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,240
I'm selling my house and then buying a smaller one

1622
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,240
. Yes,

1623
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,279
but if I pay the transfer tax

1624
01:05:40,279 --> 01:05:43,559
on the smaller one, I've already paid my

1625
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:46,079
taxes, my welcome fees, these

1626
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:49,000
things. Tell me, is there anything

1627
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,160
that would be possible by law

1628
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440
for someone who is already a resident? You

1629
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,079
understand that if I buy something

1630
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:57,599
that is more expensive, well, at least I'm paying on

1631
01:05:57,599 --> 01:05:59,079
the difference rather than on the full

1632
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:00,880
amount. Just to be clear, the

1633
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,240
welcome tax and then the transfer tax

1634
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,440
are the same thing. He already has a tax at

1635
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,480
my age, sometimes we do it, it's

1636
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,200
an excellent question.

1637
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,640
What I understand is that at the

1638
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,839
age level, if it's possible to make a

1639
01:06:14,839 --> 01:06:16,559
program because what is possible,

1640
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,039
for example, is to be able to

1641
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:20,799
pay the transfer taxes in several installments

1642
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:22,799
. So that's something

1643
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:25,240
that uh I presented to the old

1644
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,279
council and I'm going to bring it up again

1645
01:06:27,279 --> 01:06:28,720
with the new council because I

1646
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,200
think it's something

1647
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,599
interesting but to be able to

1648
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:37,400
legislate for an age group I don't

1649
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,000
know if it's not

1650
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,799
even if it's not a group of just the

1651
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:42,680
fact of having it's just the fact of

1652
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,599
prolocating an

1653
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:44,960
OK just to someone who would have a

1654
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,480
bigger house that has

1655
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,200
characters

1656
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,266
excuse me jeiqué on the not the

1657
01:06:51,266 --> 01:06:51,640
[laughs]

1658
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,760
the question

1659
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,440
uh but we can look at it. I don't know what

1660
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,559
is

1661
01:06:57,559 --> 01:06:58,839
legally possible.

1662
01:06:58,839 --> 01:07:07,510
No, that's it.

1663
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,880
Uh, wastewater

1664
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,480
treatment plant.

1665
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,160
Uh, we're talking about core strengthening. There, there was

1666
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:21,240
an amount of 2 million in 2026.

1667
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,799
900000 in 2027

1668
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:26,599
the sheathing.

1669
01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:29,760
Uh, if I remember correctly the

1670
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,279
billing method there, the code is part of the

1671
01:07:32,279 --> 01:07:35,279
municipality based on the volume

1672
01:07:35,279 --> 01:07:38,160
that is sent, the water and the

1673
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,000
suspended solids.

1674
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,760
We faced some very big challenges with that.

1675
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,880
I believe we have already paid

1676
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,799
millions too much. We've proven it all in

1677
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,559
this case. So, during the

1678
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:52,079
characterizations, it's

1679
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,760
more about age in a period where

1680
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,279
it has become more focused, it's nonsense, so now

1681
01:07:58,279 --> 01:08:00,839
I'm asking myself

1682
01:08:00,839 --> 01:08:03,160
when the next characterization is and what we are

1683
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,440
putting in place to

1684
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,319
ensure that it will be done according to the

1685
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:10,029
rules of the art so that we don't get taken for a ride again,

1686
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:11,720
if you'll allow me

1687
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,160
the expression,

1688
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,799
the exact date I will let the gentleman

1689
01:08:15,799 --> 01:08:17,560
answer later. But what

1690
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,759
I can tell you is that I know that there are

1691
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:22,199
now some of our

1692
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:24,960
employees who go on site also

1693
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,040
during the characterization.

1694
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,000
So what are we putting in place,

1695
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,279
among other things? That's what having a

1696
01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:32,279
form of double verification is like, if I

1697
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:33,520
may say so.

1698
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,239
I think that's the

1699
01:08:37,239 --> 01:08:40,799
one who manages the contract, it's Beaupré.

1700
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:43,359
They're not there, or almost not. He

1701
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,520
gives a contract. We had major discussions

1702
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,839
about what the methods should be

1703
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:50,440
. We explained everything to them

1704
01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:52,440
and finally we had won the point

1705
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,359
that it was going to be done that way. And

1706
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,400
even then, the people who came to do it

1707
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,159
weren't of the highest caliber.

1708
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,279
So the way it was done meant that we

1709
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:05,480
could still argue about the

1710
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:09,080
quality of the results.

1711
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,480
I think sir, I think sir, there are

1712
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,600
more details there considering that it is quite

1713
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,960
technical. I'll let him

1714
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,040
complete the answer.

1715
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,759
Uh, 2028, for your information. So that's why

1716
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:22,239
the next characterization

1717
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,799
will take place in 2028. So that leaves us

1718
01:09:24,799 --> 01:09:28,000
2026 and 2027 to prepare. So from

1719
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,400
there the sheathing work uh in the

1720
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,279
PTI uh we already have for your information we

1721
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,319
already have small contracts that have been

1722
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,279
given for the treatment plant for

1723
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:41,159
other files and we have asked to be involved

1724
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:42,920
. So what was happening, what we

1725
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,080
realized, was that we

1726
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,839
weren't even there since the client

1727
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:47,880
wasn't inferior to the snow.

1728
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,560
We weren't even invited to the meetings,

1729
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,440
we weren't even informed. So since

1730
01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:54,159
then, I've been here for a year now

1731
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:56,080
, I've had the chance to have all the

1732
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,719
mandates that were given, either me or

1733
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:00,480
a representative of the municipality

1734
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:02,000
was around the table so I could

1735
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,520
intervene. So I

1736
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,000
expect it to be the same

1737
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,920
in terms of characterizations. If we are going to

1738
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,120
name him, then we have always had

1739
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,239
collaboration, at least I have for the past year, and

1740
01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:13,480
since I have been asking for it, there are

1741
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:15,440
stakeholders who have changed on the

1742
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:16,800
other side. I can't say because

1743
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,560
I've only been

1744
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,920
interacting there for a year. But, you know,

1745
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,440
basically our request and the openness we've had so far

1746
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:23,800
is to be involved,

1747
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,679
to have our say

1748
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:28,440
. So, uh, that's what we're going to

1749
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:29,480
continue to do in terms of

1750
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:31,920
characterizations on that side. So there's a reason we're

1751
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,120
preparing. We

1752
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,679
know that it is also the way the contract

1753
01:10:36,679 --> 01:10:39,920
was structured that allows the residual to be

1754
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,520
paid at a good price. It's something we

1755
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,360
look at and then challenge as well

1756
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,520
. So right now, I would say

1757
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,159
that everything is on the table for

1758
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:49,719
the wastewater treatment plant, even seeing if we

1759
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:51,280
could reopen the contract there

1760
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,880
and try to come and

1761
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,360
update it because it's been a while since

1762
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,560
this control has been running.

1763
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,000
So we are here because it is certain that when

1764
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,600
the factory was built, there were

1765
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,360
assessments and we were

1766
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,280
very low on what was

1767
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,159
undervalued

1768
01:11:09,159 --> 01:11:11,600
and undervalued. On the other hand, when

1769
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,239
you look at how the

1770
01:11:13,239 --> 01:11:15,159
characterization was done, it was quite pointed out

1771
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:17,560
that maybe it wasn't that

1772
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,920
different after all. But here, if we do

1773
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,080
a good characterization,

1774
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,320
we know I don't have a problem. Do we

1775
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,600
pay for what we use, and if there have been

1776
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,040
things over time that

1777
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,000
need correcting, I have no problem with

1778
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,840
the municipality being a good

1779
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,880
partner in that. But I think it's

1780
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,400
important because we're talking about

1781
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,639
3 million for the core strengthening. Pledge. Uh, that's

1782
01:11:39,639 --> 01:11:42,480
for the waters that fit into the

1783
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:46,000
taste system. I think 25

1784
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,480
% of the bill is for the volume

1785
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:49,880
of water and the rest is for

1786
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,880
suspended solids. At this point I'm thinking, 25% or we put

1787
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,920
3 million for the 75%, what are we

1788
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,080
doing to make sure we're not on

1789
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,920
a sham?

1790
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,080
The insulation work is

1791
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,360
eligible for subsidies up to an average height of

1792
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,480
80%. On that side, the cost price is

1793
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,400
not 2.9 million, I

1794
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,679
assure you. And what also needs to be taken

1795
01:12:10,679 --> 01:12:12,040
into consideration is where there are

1796
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,400
water leaks, but there are also

1797
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,520
sand leaks, of other materials that

1798
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,760
collect in the network and

1799
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,199
impact the data as well.

1800
01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:23,639
OK. Yeah, I understand that. But I must

1801
01:12:23,639 --> 01:12:25,480
reiterate that

1802
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:27,480
you will need to follow the keying process very, very

1803
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:28,199
closely.

1804
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:29,440
Thank you, sir pilot. Ah,

1805
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:29,960
I'm not finished.

1806
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,840
I'm going to... There are other people who do it,

1807
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,760
if that doesn't bother you. I was on a

1808
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,639
roll with

1809
01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:37,440
all the questions for

1810
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,760
Merci.

1811
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,639
Yes, good evening Anne, Coubertin's laughter.

1812
01:12:43,639 --> 01:12:47,199
Okay, I have a few questions.

1813
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,840
Uh, question

1814
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,880
1.

1815
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,199
When you talk about PTI in the immobilis

1816
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:57,159
, the link between active immobility and

1817
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,000
village heart, what is it or

1818
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,960
just? Actually, uh, I don't know if you

1819
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,760
remember, but in

1820
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,600
recent years, we've talked about

1821
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,199
showing interest in having a sidewalk in

1822
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:10,920
the village. Then, uh, in parallel with that,

1823
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,080
the government announced a

1824
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,800
green route project, a

1825
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,120
multi-functional style road that would connect the

1826
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,600
national capital to Saint-Siméon. So,

1827
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,840
when we found out about that, well,

1828
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,960
our project was put on hold for the

1829
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,960
final part of this road trip. Then we said to ourselves,

1830
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,040
but if he goes through the royal avenue,

1831
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,440
we for example have already made a

1832
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,760
sidewalk and there for them for example it is

1833
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,360
a multi-functional track we did

1834
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,000
not want to have to undo what we have just

1835
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,600
done. So we're actually waiting for the

1836
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,360
final plans from their end. Then, I'm

1837
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,400
going a bit far here, but possibly if,

1838
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,679
for example, it's a

1839
01:13:48,679 --> 01:13:51,120
multifunctional link or something, we could

1840
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,400
perhaps look into a

1841
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,880
form of partnership with them, you know, either

1842
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,679
a grant or something so

1843
01:13:56,679 --> 01:13:58,480
that it could also benefit us.

1844
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,400
The fact is that basically this amount is

1845
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,480
at the level of the study there if you

1846
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:04,159
want there for this project

1847
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:05,560
for the study sidewalks for the

1848
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,000
sidewalks

1849
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,199
and or as I tell you

1850
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:10,800
multifunctional track according to the route also

1851
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,280
of the green road.

1852
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,600
Uh, OK. Speaking of all that, let's

1853
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,719
put the backs of the weapons there, which

1854
01:14:16,719 --> 01:14:19,679
you told me might be going

1855
01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:21,639
forward. Were they

1856
01:14:21,639 --> 01:14:24,600
described in the PTI? I didn't notice.

1857
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,960
No, not like that. You wanted

1858
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,960
the amounts to have been allocated directly

1859
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,800
in the operating budget on that

1860
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,800
side. So yes, there will be a

1861
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,360
presentation to be made to the council

1862
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,520
regarding the management, I mean, of

1863
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,520
the speed and the development there of the

1864
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,120
village. So it's something that will

1865
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,600
come from that direction. I'm taking it in my hand at the

1866
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,840
same time.

1867
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,400
Yeah, [laughs]

1868
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,440
that's it. We had

1869
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,159
talked, but you know, I thought

1870
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:52,800
you forgot to mention if we had said it there

1871
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,480
literally there. No, you didn't miss it

1872
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:56,000
. It wasn't written, it didn't exist

1873
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,199
. symbol. Uh, my second question is,

1874
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,239
when you talk about the

1875
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:03,320
percentage of remuneration, you

1876
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,639
presented a nice graph and all that, and

1877
01:15:06,639 --> 01:15:08,880
then Saintféréol, well you say that it is

1878
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,400
positioned well there compared to

1879
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,199
other municipalities. I would like to point out

1880
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,840
one thing to you, uh, the number of

1881
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,920
managers, the number of managerial staff

1882
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,520
in Saintfériol, it is quite high,

1883
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,120
it is very high compared to other

1884
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,719
municipalities. I calculated this earlier

1885
01:15:25,719 --> 01:15:27,639
during the presentation in Saintféol,

1886
01:15:27,639 --> 01:15:30,840
it's 30% of employees, in

1887
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,080
Chaicher it's 13%, in Bois Châtel

1888
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,280
it's 20%, in Beauprice it's 15%. Can

1889
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,960
I know why there are so many

1890
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,880
managers in the staff

1891
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:42,719
at the municipality?

1892
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:44,480
I want to tell you that I think it also depends on,

1893
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,360
I'll say, the

1894
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,440
title. If I give you an example in

1895
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:49,639
communications, the

1896
01:15:49,639 --> 01:15:52,440
communications coordinator, well, she doesn't have

1897
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:55,360
anyone under her, but she

1898
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,280
is considered a manager. It

1899
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,000
reports directly to the

1900
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,320
general management. Uh, she's not the

1901
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,480
manager, she's not someone who's going to be

1902
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:07,800
in the union either. You know, that

1903
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,480
function in the organizational chart, we,

1904
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:11,000
for example, have placed it like this.

1905
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,719
is an example I'm giving you right now

1906
01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:14,280
. We have, I don't know if you

1907
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,280
saw this go by, but we have

1908
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,600
a new coordinator

1909
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,679
for urban planning. Well, Martin

1910
01:16:22,679 --> 01:16:24,960
Robichot, who is the director,

1911
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,000
has been more involved in the role of

1912
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,800
project manager. So, these are

1913
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,159
positions that are not unionized, uh, that's it

1914
01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:34,520
, sometimes they will have

1915
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,639
employees under them, sometimes not. But you

1916
01:16:36,639 --> 01:16:38,520
know, I would say that it's not bad,

1917
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,440
I think, in terms of the organization,

1918
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,600
strategically it was

1919
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,320
built like that, if you will. I don't know

1920
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,120
if the gentleman wants to address this with you

1921
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:46,880
.

1922
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,199
It's as if there's more ch than

1923
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:50,360
ien there, it makes for a very

1924
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:51,320
high-quality rat.

1925
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,719
In fact, it's important not to

1926
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:54,840
confuse these non-unionized staff members

1927
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,239
. So, uh, we have certain frameworks.

1928
01:16:57,239 --> 01:16:58,840
Yes. Then they are all part

1929
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,920
of the same collection. So all

1930
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,760
their working conditions are under the

1931
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,600
same, uh, under the same collection. But we

1932
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,360
have many non-

1933
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,199
unionized employees who are in this position because

1934
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:11,639
they have access to

1935
01:17:11,639 --> 01:17:14,199
privileged information but who do not

1936
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:17,480
necessarily have employees under their command.

1937
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:19,719
Well, uh, I also had a

1938
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:21,239
suggestion to make regarding this for

1939
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:23,800
the employees. Well, I don't have in the PTI

1940
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,080
uh you often refer to

1941
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,320
studies there to do work. Well, these are

1942
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,639
studies by

1943
01:17:29,639 --> 01:17:32,520
engineering firms, I imagine. Yeah. Um,

1944
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,920
I know someone in my

1945
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,159
circle who is a civil engineer for

1946
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,480
municipalities in Quebec. Then, uh,

1947
01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:41,000
in some municipalities, they

1948
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,159
actually hire engineers.

1949
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,159
Because when you do it with a

1950
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:49,679
firm, the firm is looking at 2.5 times

1951
01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:52,360
what it costs, you know, when we talk

1952
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,760
about feasibility studies,

1953
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,120
profitability, it could be very

1954
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,400
profitable to have an engineer

1955
01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,679
working for you who could

1956
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:01,400
be shared with another municipality.

1957
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,639
Indeed, sharing like that

1958
01:18:03,639 --> 01:18:05,920
is something that had already been

1959
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,440
discussed at the MRC level,

1960
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:10,320
sharing of professionals like that, but frankly

1961
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,560
, I think it didn't go beyond that

1962
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,159
level of

1963
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:14,520
discussion. Yes, yes, it is

1964
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,320
relevant madam

1965
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,800
because there are many things,

1966
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,800
infrastructure management,

1967
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,120
intervention plans as well, to the management

1968
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,199
of government subsidies.

1969
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:25,840
It's very complicated. That's what

1970
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,239
the engineer was telling me. Then at some point

1971
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:28,800
, you need people who know about

1972
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,719
this. That's very profitable.

1973
01:18:31,719 --> 01:18:34,400
and I'm noting it down to restart the

1974
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,560
discussion. You'll pay

1975
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,320
your engineering brothers for this quickly.

1976
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Another question,

1977
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,360
I'll leave that one to you and

1978
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,679
then we'll give the floor to

1979
01:18:46,679 --> 01:18:47,840
someone else.

1980
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,560
When you say the codes are part of

1981
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,199
the bill, we receive it, we don't have a word to

1982
01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:55,760
say, we pay it. Personally, I think it's

1983
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,600
the bad payers, those

1984
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,920
who don't pay and those who pay too

1985
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,719
quickly. Um, I would like to

1986
01:19:01,719 --> 01:19:04,239
tell you that the codes are open to

1987
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,719
discussion, I think. This has been

1988
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:08,199
proven by former Laurette and then

1989
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:09,679
Saint-Augustin Démor in relation to

1990
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:12,360
Quebec there. Uh, but what I've

1991
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,199
noticed is that this is the cost

1992
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,280
increase, the factory, the

1993
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,280
filtration factory, the factory, good price, it's

1994
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,229
very high. So why exactly,

1995
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,239
sir? Yeah, but as we

1996
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:29,520
explained earlier, uh,

1997
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:29,920
understood.

1998
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,080
Yes, in fact we have an

1999
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,480
agreement and every 3 years we have to do

2000
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:37,239
a characterization. So, we actually measure

2001
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:40,120
the sediments that

2002
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,199
pass through the pipes and it is

2003
01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:44,400
on this charge that we

2004
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,000
are charged. I'm simplifying all of this

2005
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,679
here. It's because I'm being looked at and

2006
01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:49,159
thinking that maybe I'm

2007
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:51,120
simplifying a little too much here, it's 5

2008
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,800
years and in fact it's done from

2009
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,960
this characterization the way it's

2010
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,360
done is that all the

2011
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,440
municipalities are able to make

2012
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:01,199
this measurement and beautiful price pays the

2013
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:04,960
residual of all this so if it's 100%

2014
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,600
but Saintériol pays 25 Saint-Joischin

2015
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,560
pays 25 uh

2016
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,199
in the end it's beautiful pays 25 and

2017
01:20:14,199 --> 01:20:16,000
beautiful pays the residual so that's how

2018
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,920
it works. So it's certain that in

2019
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,360
terms of characterizations, as we were

2020
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,600
mentioning, we have

2021
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,360
certain small elements in the

2022
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,880
municipality, we have worked in

2023
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,360
recent years to correct

2024
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,760
everything and we continue to do so. But the key

2025
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,120
to war is really

2026
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,560
characterization because that's what

2027
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,239
impacts us. I said 3 years, but it's

2028
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:35,800
for 5 years. Thank you, sir. Uh, and that's where we

2029
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,520
need to make sure that the

2030
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,239
characterization is as accurate as

2031
01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:41,120
possible for our municipality to

2032
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,760
ensure that it really represents the

2033
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,199
sediments that pass through the pipes,

2034
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:48,440
the sediments that are

2035
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:50,199
treated at the city of Beaupré, which is

2036
01:20:50,199 --> 01:20:52,920
charged by Beaupré for use

2037
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,239
in the lower part. That's it. That's

2038
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:56,120
it. framed by an agreement, as we were

2039
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:57,840
saying earlier, it is negotiable on the

2040
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,320
part of the codes. I'll answer

2041
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:01,719
that I don't disagree, but

2042
01:21:01,719 --> 01:21:04,639
all of this is by agreement, you know. So if

2043
01:21:04,639 --> 01:21:06,120
an agreement states that we pay based on the

2044
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,800
land value, then our land value has

2045
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,920
increased. The SQ is a

2046
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,600
good example of this. So, the French are increasing

2047
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,400
our share at the SQ, but you have to

2048
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,040
be a little bit combative, a little bit

2049
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,840
there to, uh, so that we

2050
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,840
could try to negotiate this, but

2051
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,440
some, like with the SQ, you have to get up,

2052
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:24,199
happiness, well,

2053
01:21:24,199 --> 01:21:25,960
in any case, it takes people,

2054
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,360
maybe an engineer, that could

2055
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,840
help you in this direction,

2056
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,600
me, but just the most mobile,

2057
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,000
the increase is quite astronomical, that's why,

2058
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,239
exactly, because

2059
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:37,480
I see this little bus passing through my neighborhood and

2060
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:40,080
I don't see

2061
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,000
many people on it. So this is a

2062
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,800
pilot project that Saintéréol and Beaupré

2063
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,400
have decided to implement. So,

2064
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:53,990
to offer a weekend service, initially

2065
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,040
teenagers were the target audience, but we

2066
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,920
quickly realized that it could also be of

2067
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,639
use to the

2068
01:21:59,639 --> 01:22:01,639
elderly. So you know, as you know,

2069
01:22:01,639 --> 01:22:02,840
public transport is not

2070
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,560
served on the Beaua coast, the most

2071
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,040
basic mobile option is the one that goes directly to

2072
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,480
Quebec City. So we wanted to see

2073
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,440
if this could meet

2074
01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:14,400
a need. So it's on Friday evenings

2075
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,960
between 4:30pm and 10pm. Saturday and Sunday

2076
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,320
between 7am and 10pm. It's

2077
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,719
a loop. There are approximately 11 or 12

2078
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:25,360
stops in Saintriol

2079
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,400
in Beaupré and then there are two stops in

2080
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,520
Saint-Angré there. So, to take

2081
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,400
people there to the participating shops.

2082
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,440
So we did this first

2083
01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,120
pilot project from September to

2084
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,920
December. Then the council, we said to ourselves,

2085
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,520
well if we stop it now, we wo

2086
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,199
n't have the portrait of the year to see if it

2087
01:22:44,199 --> 01:22:45,960
actually meets

2088
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,440
a need. So we've set ourselves the challenge

2089
01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:51,040
of relaunching it this year. Beaupré was

2090
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,159
also there and agreed to continue.

2091
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:55,440
So I would say that at the end of the

2092
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,960
year, we will see if it actually

2093
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,840
meets a need. For now, what

2094
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,840
I can tell you is that the

2095
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,080
numbers are constantly increasing

2096
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,120
every month. So, you know, it

2097
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,639
deserves to be better known. Uh, and that's it.

2098
01:23:07,639 --> 01:23:09,560
We'll see what happens next. Indeed, we

2099
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,920
know that, public transport, I'm not

2100
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,719
telling you anything new here, is not something

2101
01:23:12,719 --> 01:23:15,360
profitable, it's a service to

2102
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,920
citizens. So, we make the choice to

2103
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,760
say, well, we are on a

2104
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,199
longitudinal territory.

2105
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:24,719
THANKS.

2106
01:23:24,719 --> 01:23:29,560
So we thought, well, why not, try and see if it can

2107
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,159
meet a need. So that's why,

2108
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:34,600
yes, it goes from a small amount

2109
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,280
to a very large one, and the balance sheet will be done

2110
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,080
at the end of this year.

2111
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,639
Yes.

2112
01:23:39,639 --> 01:23:41,840
It would be at the end of the year, actually it would

2113
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,719
be.

2114
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:44,040
Yeah, but the end of the year would actually be

2115
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:44,880
like

2116
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,480
this.

2117
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:47,600
Yes, that's true. It's for the

2118
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,239
whole year. That's it. Yes.

2119
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:53,280
The year this year, end of 2026. OK.

2120
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:58,590
THANKS.

2121
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,360
Hello, I've been on

2122
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,920
Nagano Street for two and a half years now, there's a

2123
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,199
little miss who comes from Mont

2124
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:06,639
Saintler, so

2125
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:07,480
it makes me happy,

2126
01:24:07,480 --> 01:24:10,120
my daughter is here. So look, with

2127
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,880
the environment I'm very satisfied,

2128
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,080
uh, just disappointed with the budgets.

2129
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,320
So I worked for 10 years in

2130
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,719
municipalities as head of

2131
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:21,560
cultural division and then as director of

2132
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,120
leisure. So I don't know those figures either,

2133
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,520
in sanitation

2134
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,280
or in water. It's especially when we

2135
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,000
lose water that it costs

2136
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,239
a municipality a lot of money. The fact that I

2137
01:24:31,239 --> 01:24:34,320
understood this is a new term.

2138
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,159
The population of what I know there seems to be

2139
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:38,440
3300. I thought, OK,

2140
01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:42,109
we've reached 405,

2141
01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:44,159
my god. Sometime between last year or

2142
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:46,360
2023 in any case. OK, perfect. We've

2143
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,920
reached 4000. OK. I was the

2144
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,199
recreation director for the municipality of

2145
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:52,119
McMasterville, which is next to Bœil, and it had

2146
01:24:52,119 --> 01:24:56,800
5500 residents at the time.

2147
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,440
Um, what is the increase this

2148
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,920
year? The increase in spending

2149
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,280
there is 9%. Got it. OK. The cost of

2150
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,199
living is OK.

2151
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,760
2.4. Well, it's

2152
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,840
because the city of

2153
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,400
Quebec, unless other miners there,

2154
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,840
but I got that from the newspaper. There can

2155
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,199
always be an error, but between 2,

2156
01:25:14,199 --> 01:25:15,639
then 3, then 9 there is still a

2157
01:25:15,639 --> 01:25:17,320
big difference. What is

2158
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,800
the increase this year in the

2159
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,520
budget compared to

2160
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:24,400
last year? What is

2161
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:25,639
the increase in

2162
01:25:25,639 --> 01:25:28,000
property tax? They do

2163
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,960
n't understand my question either. I'll

2164
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,800
let the gentleman figure it out. Your

2165
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,880
examples were based on 365,000. You

2166
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,600
lowered that, good, I understood everything about the

2167
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,080
average increase in the tax fund.

2168
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,400
That's 5%.

2169
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,560
THANKS. Last year

2170
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,880
it was 10 points something.

2171
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,239
Last year, 3.2,

2172
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:47,560
we had 10%. There are some who had

2173
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,239
3.2 last year,

2174
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:51,119
well there was a 10% where it was at the

2175
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:53,360
level of expenses which were 10%. We

2176
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,920
shouldn't associate increased

2177
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,400
spending with increased

2178
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,880
tax rates. OK.

2179
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,639
Um, what is the

2180
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:03,280
average income of people here? I do

2181
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,800
n't have that information, madam.

2182
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,560
But it would be important because we

2183
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,239
understand each other among the people who live,

2184
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:09,920
I think, a little bit higher up.

2185
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,239
Me too.

2186
01:26:11,239 --> 01:26:13,040
With the lower level of

2187
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,719
resorts near Mont Saint, there's

2188
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:17,119
definitely a difference, we

2189
01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:18,679
should take that into account, it's

2190
01:26:18,679 --> 01:26:21,430
very important to know the average income, okay, we have to

2191
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:22,800
understand this year

2192
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,239
with the property tax roll, what it creates

2193
01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:25,800
is tax reductions for these

2194
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,000
people, because

2195
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,760
average increases in residences tend to be

2196
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,679
lower in the east than in

2197
01:26:32,679 --> 01:26:33,159
the west,

2198
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:35,950
OK yeah, that's it, there's the east and the west or

2199
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,000
not, but what I see is that it seems like there's a renewal

2200
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,679
in

2201
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:40,880
the houses.

2202
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,679
People have taken over their

2203
01:26:42,679 --> 01:26:43,920
parents' house, at least that's what I

2204
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,239
guess, and there are renovations and that, and they're

2205
01:26:47,239 --> 01:26:50,080
more beautiful and all that.

2206
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,239
OK, so there is still an

2207
01:26:51,239 --> 01:26:53,400
increase for the gentleman who was talking

2208
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,239
about the Federation of the Age

2209
01:26:55,239 --> 01:26:56,719
of Art at the moment regarding the

2210
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:58,159
welcome tax, there is nothing being done regarding

2211
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:00,000
the transfer tax, nothing is being

2212
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,040
done. I would be surprised if the

2213
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,440
municipalities accepted that. What I

2214
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:04,880
understood is that someone who was a

2215
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,280
resident of Saint-Fériol and then

2216
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,520
moves back to Saint-Fériol after

2217
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,960
a certain age, let's say 65 years old, and then I don't know, can I, apologize madam, can I bring

2218
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,560
you back to the

2219
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,840
questions, perfect. Well, I'm

2220
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,639
disappointed too because I'm very

2221
01:27:19,639 --> 01:27:21,040
visual, it's beautiful. But I mean

2222
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,560
, I didn't photograph them

2223
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,560
like Madame Fait did, it would have been fun

2224
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:25,960
for us who were there, who took

2225
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,159
the trouble to at least follow along, you

2226
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:29,800
know, with the comparison. That's very

2227
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,320
well done. But it's just that we

2228
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,360
could have had

2229
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,960
copies. We take little notes and

2230
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,440
everything. So for me, that's, uh, that's

2231
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:37,880
desirable at least for the people who are running

2232
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,480
, you know. I mean, we're following along just

2233
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:41,040
like you. Then I think it gives

2234
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,560
us pleasure to listen to you and

2235
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,400
also to understand and then we can

2236
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,080
pass that on to everyone so that

2237
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,550
everyone knows it well.

2238
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,119
I'm going to ask you to wait before

2239
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:54,199
going to the microphone.

2240
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:56,840
No no, but you'll be doing it from front to

2241
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,320
scrap paper, newspaper, that doesn't

2242
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,880
bother me. Uh, the other thing, just

2243
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,639
quickly, also regarding leisure activities

2244
01:28:03,639 --> 01:28:05,880
as such, there was an adaptation of

2245
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,520
Jo's camp, I completely

2246
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,000
agree, I'm a director of leisure activities,

2247
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,320
I'm not against camps, I don't know

2248
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,920
if there was a big increase or

2249
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,199
what, but in any case I didn't understand what it was,

2250
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:15,600
I know it's at the

2251
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,320
level of the camp, listen, I don't even want to know,

2252
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,400
not what costs me more, what

2253
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,080
tires me a little, well, not a little, a

2254
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,920
lot, is what is the percentage

2255
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,840
of the city's debt at the moment, here,

2256
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,199
exact percentage, and it seems to me that we

2257
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:32,159
are at 12% in fact. We are very, very low

2258
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:35,430
compared to our comparisons of

2259
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:37,520
the MRC and even Quebec. Here, we have

2260
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,199
very little debt.

2261
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:42,960
Well, I repeat again, we are at 3000-4000

2262
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,000
m, so much the better. 4002

2263
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,199
4000 I don't know what. But let's just say

2264
01:28:46,199 --> 01:28:48,400
that the babies aren't providing enough yet. We understand each other

2265
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,320
. Do you agree with that too

2266
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,719
? I think that's what I see in the

2267
01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:54,159
numbers. I worked in Ville

2268
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:57,320
d'Anjou, McMasterville, uh, Brossard, and

2269
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,199
I see figures that look like

2270
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:00,840
these, I'm going to call some of my

2271
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,239
colleagues. I think that's high.

2272
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:06,280
Well yes, you put a lot of fire

2273
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,040
there especially the fire station as far as I'm

2274
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,520
concerned I'm there there unless

2275
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,719
you buy a new

2276
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:14,440
fire truck which I was told

2277
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:16,280
separately because it no longer fits in

2278
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,159
the fire station. So now we

2279
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:19,440
're ready to buy a new

2280
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:21,560
fire station. Community center, if the

2281
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,800
community center. Yes. Well,

2282
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,320
anyway, I came here for the

2283
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,080
Christmas shows with my little ones, my

2284
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,239
little girl, and all that. I

2285
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:29,600
think it's very good. It looks

2286
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,080
rustic. It doesn't always look very

2287
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,239
modern. I'm telling you this just because there are so many wasted opportunities

2288
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,080
,

2289
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,119
the Sûreté du Québec and whoever

2290
01:29:37,119 --> 01:29:38,800
wants to negotiate with the Sûreté du Québec, we've had to

2291
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,239
sit down for a long time. What I do

2292
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:42,920
know, for example, is that each of the

2293
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,719
councillors, madam, sits on

2294
01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:48,880
these committees, whether it be at the

2295
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,679
level of water, the water board, the

2296
01:29:50,679 --> 01:29:53,440
safety of Quebec and so on. I

2297
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:56,159
imagine that if you are present it is

2298
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:57,360
because you have a say in this, and to

2299
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,480
say, "This is

2300
01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:01,480
expensive, guys, can we do something about it?"

2301
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:02,679
No, you're right, if we take

2302
01:30:02,679 --> 01:30:04,760
the example of the SQ, it's

2303
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,600
more at the MRC level. We saw

2304
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,360
a presentation last year, and

2305
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,040
indeed, it's flat to say, but we

2306
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,440
have nothing to say, we are being told

2307
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:17,400
how it works, how it will be

2308
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,679
distributed, and it's the burden we

2309
01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:21,520
have, where do we have a little power to

2310
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,360
see, I would say, it's about trying to have

2311
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,600
more presence in our

2312
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,719
territories. That's where we

2313
01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:29,440
put the pressure to get

2314
01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:32,000
more cars. That's where we apply

2315
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,360
the pressure. But on a purely

2316
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,560
monetary level, I told you, but I

2317
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,159
can tell you that they are not present

2318
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:39,719
and I asked that they be present at some point, it is

2319
01:30:39,719 --> 01:30:41,600
me, I live on

2320
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,320
Nagano opposite the street, I don't remember what it's

2321
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,760
called, which goes

2322
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:46,920
towards the new development in the back, who

2323
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,400
are these fake skeptics there, the big

2324
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:49,920
development in the back, there is

2325
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,159
nobody who stops.

2326
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:55,199
Person. OK, and there are little

2327
01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:57,040
children who, in the morning, I'm not

2328
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,440
joking, I mean, I see it, I

2329
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:00,480
'm at my window, and there are

2330
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:02,159
little children who are there, primary school children,

2331
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:04,280
young primary school children, who are there, the bus, there's

2332
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,199
nobody by, you see, we're moving away

2333
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:08,040
from our,

2334
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,440
I just want to tell you

2335
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:11,000
that we take this, I

2336
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,960
saw the gentleman note it, that's kind of how we have to

2337
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,400
operate,

2338
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,000
when you have something like that

2339
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,440
to report, don't hesitate to call the

2340
01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,920
municipality, we can make the connection

2341
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,280
with them, they will come and be

2342
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,440
present. It's occasional, it's not

2343
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:26,560
perfect, but it's something we

2344
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,199
can do. It's fantastic.

2345
01:31:28,199 --> 01:31:29,440
In any case, I mean because at some point

2346
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:30,440
something is going to

2347
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:31,679
happen because others are

2348
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,280
always developing, it's always, it's not

2349
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,679
just the resident who doesn't stop

2350
01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:37,520
because he's stopped from

2351
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,080
the future royal who lines up there and

2352
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,199
then on the return the same thing, it's

2353
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:42,920
all the companies, you know,

2354
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,280
the trucks and that which go and

2355
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:45,800
develop behind the

2356
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,159
houses and I find it

2357
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:49,560
extremely dangerous that there's an S

2358
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,280
there and they make the S, they don't make

2359
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,800
two stops, they make the S. I don't know

2360
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,840
if it's clear but covered and then it's there and then the

2361
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:55,840
other one, I don't remember what it's

2362
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,480
called, in front of it, you know, I

2363
01:31:57,480 --> 01:31:57,960
think.

2364
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:58,320
Exactly.

2365
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,639
Okay, that's it. OK. Listen to the others,

2366
01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:01,880
I think it's unfortunate. I think we

2367
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,600
should have the right at the next

2368
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,560
city council meeting if I receive the

2369
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,669
papers so I

2370
01:32:08,679 --> 01:32:10,159
can ask other questions

2371
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:12,600
concerning the city. The

2372
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,560
clerk tells me that starting tomorrow

2373
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,080
morning, you will be able to find them

2374
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,119
there on the municipality's website.

2375
01:32:18,119 --> 01:32:19,920
OK. Ah, perfect. Excellent. It's good.

2376
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:26,709
Thank you so much.

2377
01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:29,280
Good evening.

2378
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,600
committee.

2379
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:31,480
Good day sir.

2380
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:33,000
Uh, I just wanted to clarify a little bit about

2381
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,320
the Beaupré factory and the

2382
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,239
Parchal canal. Are you

2383
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:39,320
familiar with this? Yes.

2384
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,880
OK. There was a protocol that had been

2385
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,639
made in my time there

2386
01:32:43,639 --> 01:32:46,440
and uh that was supposed to be put in place

2387
01:32:46,440 --> 01:32:48,520
systematically. Do you

2388
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,719
still have the protocol to connect all of

2389
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:51,159
this?

2390
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:52,440
Ah, I'd have to ask Benoî to

2391
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:53,440
find out.

2392
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:54,960
If you don't have it, I can

2393
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,800
help you.

2394
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,360
I worked in that field.

2395
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:00,800
Yeah.

2396
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:06,440
André, I don't know if I remember, he was the one who did it

2397
01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:08,280
. And I

2398
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,400
think that by taking it from there and

2399
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,400
following it, we won't have a problem with the

2400
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,040
amount of residual waste.

2401
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:18,480
OK.

2402
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:20,199
Thank you, sir.

2403
01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:22,480
I have another question.

2404
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,000
the ecocentre

2405
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,520
in winter. Have you

2406
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,119
budgeted for the

2407
01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:33,960
expenses involved if we go to Saint

2408
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,639
for this waste disposal? Did

2409
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:38,440
you include anything in your budgets

2410
01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:42,800
to compensate for this title?

2411
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,239
Yes yes yes, those are the

2412
01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:46,600
exact figures, I don't know but yes, that's the

2413
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,199
agreement we made with them.

2414
01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:51,440
agreement because I didn't see anything there in

2415
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:53,440
the budget related to all that, it's

2416
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:55,560
an agreement we have for one year

2417
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,440
to start, it started on

2418
01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,239
January 1, 2026, so it's certain that

2419
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:00,920
when we made the budget we were

2420
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,360
still at the level of estimates, we

2421
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,840
definitely kept a small

2422
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,800
budget on that side, but until

2423
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,360
now what we hear is that there are

2424
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,480
volumes but it's not

2425
01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:13,239
more in troubleshooting mode, it's

2426
01:34:13,239 --> 01:34:14,840
really in the summer that we see the

2427
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:20,790
biggest volumes

2428
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,119
for me, that's all. Thank you

2429
01:34:22,119 --> 01:34:27,590
very much.

2430
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,119
Hello to the people in the

2431
01:34:29,119 --> 01:34:29,960
Saint-Antoine district.

2432
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:30,800
Good evening, officer.

2433
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,880
I saw in the plan that there were

2434
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,280
budgets for the Saint-Nicolas road.

2435
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,159
Excellent. It's good. He lacked

2436
01:34:37,159 --> 01:34:39,159
love there. Then for the

2437
01:34:39,159 --> 01:34:41,280
next three years. In recent

2438
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,480
years, there has been some

2439
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,280
investment in Saint-Antoine and then

2440
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,960
Sainte-Marie.

2441
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,119
Does that mean that in the

2442
01:34:48,119 --> 01:34:51,000
next three years, there will be zero?

2443
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,080
What do you mean by "there will be

2444
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,600
zero at the Saint-Antoine

2445
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:54,199
Saint-Marie level"?

2446
01:34:54,199 --> 01:34:56,760
In terms of improvements

2447
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,360
at the level of the Sainte-Marie road and

2448
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,040
during

2449
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,520
Sainte-Marie, I don't know by heart for

2450
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,119
the next three

2451
01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:06,840
years yet. Indeed, there are no

2452
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,800
capital works. Sure there will

2453
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,119
be maintenance work but there is

2454
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:13,239
nothing planned at the moment at the level

2455
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:14,400
of Saint-Antoine then Sainte-Marie

2456
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,920
for the next three years

2457
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,560
really our energies reflection

2458
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,119
which has had in the last year or in the

2459
01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:23,400
last years we tear everything down and

2460
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,280
rebuild there is nothing planned on

2461
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,840
that side

2462
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,440
at the level of Sainte-Antoine

2463
01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:30,520
for the three years we are really

2464
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,119
focusing on Col a little a little

2465
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:40,990
sorry need

2466
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,880
Robert Pilot Saintféréol. Uh, point 6

2467
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,719
relating to waste management. Is it

2468
01:35:47,719 --> 01:35:50,320
just the pricing or is it something else

2469
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,400
?

2470
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,880
That's the pricing.

2471
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,920
Is waste management

2472
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,000
considered an essential service? I do

2473
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,159
n't know when she has

2474
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:02,440
negotiations with the union, but

2475
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:04,800
is this part of the

2476
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,800
essential services that cannot be

2477
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,480
affected, or are

2478
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:12,560
blue-collar workers considered for

2479
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,239
the moment? You know that the

2480
01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:17,119
law has evolved in recent

2481
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:19,560
years, but what we have known at the

2482
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,040
blue-collar level is that it was recognized

2483
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,600
as an essential service. So it's our

2484
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,560
blue-collar workers who provide the

2485
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,280
obvious colleague service. So, up until

2486
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,280
now, it's clear that we'll need to find

2487
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,400
a

2488
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,199
legal position on that side to prepare

2489
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:32,880
for the convention and all eventualities. It's

2490
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,840
nice to have some cheiters there, but when

2491
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,080
it comes, we know there are some, we just

2492
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,639
had a good example of that, not

2493
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:41,040
too far from the union, who decided

2494
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,719
they wanted to go. Then

2495
01:36:43,719 --> 01:36:45,119
at that point, we know that it is the

2496
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,199
municipality that is really

2497
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:48,280
in the thick of things.

2498
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,159
For your information,

2499
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:52,960
union relations are currently very good

2500
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,560
. The collective agreement ends

2501
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,280
on December 31, 2026, so

2502
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,040
at the end of this year,

2503
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,600
and we have already planned to start

2504
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,199
neglecting the

2505
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:13,830
collective agreement sheet beforehand. OK,

2506
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,080
I need to fill in the blanks. I had

2507
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,639
two other questions. Uh,

2508
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:20,719
recently we talked about possibly

2509
01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:23,990
two new residential developments, but

2510
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:25,360
I can't take your

2511
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,199
question in the part related to that. Um, in

2512
01:37:28,199 --> 01:37:30,280
your PTI you presented, did

2513
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,960
you consider the possibility that there might be

2514
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,360
costs associated with these

2515
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,159
developments? That would be

2516
01:37:37,159 --> 01:37:39,239
hypothetical, but because it might

2517
01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:41,159
mean that if the

2518
01:37:41,159 --> 01:37:42,760
treatment plant needs to increase its

2519
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,840
capacity, it will be necessary to search for

2520
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:45,760
new water sources.

2521
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,280
Well, at the moment the

2522
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,639
quick answer is no, we haven't considered it.

2523
01:37:49,639 --> 01:37:51,000
OK. You didn't consider it. Well, that's what

2524
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,239
I wanted to know because it

2525
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:56,870
could be additional costs, so

2526
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,880
I think that needs to be taken into consideration.

2527
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,520
Last question, there is a law that

2528
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:04,159
was adopted this spring, law 79 by

2529
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:06,040
the minister, the Ministry of

2530
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:07,880
Municipal Affairs. Does that ring a bell

2531
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,159
?

2532
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:12,000
Frankly, no, what's the name of

2533
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,719
the law?

2534
01:38:13,719 --> 01:38:16,000
It's, uh, it's the modernization of

2535
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,719
municipal contractual management. The

2536
01:38:17,719 --> 01:38:20,280
aim is to simplify the ways

2537
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,880
of doing things, to give contracts in a

2538
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,840
less comprehensive way, with

2539
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,880
less administration, After that, awarding

2540
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,360
contracts to, let's say, local people will be

2541
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:33,560
easy. So, uh, how did he

2542
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:37,520
say that? Uh, uh, then

2543
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,870
reduce the delays. Reduce the processing times for

2544
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:42,960
requests. Madam,

2545
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:43,639
excuse me, what is the

2546
01:38:43,639 --> 01:38:45,560
connection with what has been

2547
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:46,159
presented?

2548
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:49,080
Well, the gain is that, uh, if they

2549
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,920
have put in place this new law,

2550
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,480
there must be some

2551
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:54,520
financial advantages somewhere there, you know. Well,

2552
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:55,920
it must be reflected in the way things are

2553
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,599
done, right? Has this been

2554
01:38:59,599 --> 01:39:02,760
evaluated yet? It has been evaluated, but the law

2555
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,360
dates from March, but still, because

2556
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,199
all the municipalities were complaining

2557
01:39:06,199 --> 01:39:08,599
that it was difficult to give

2558
01:39:08,599 --> 01:39:11,320
permits, and now they want to simplify,

2559
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,400
but maybe if we simplify

2560
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,760
you will have less

2561
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,920
administrative hassle, maybe

2562
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,280
from what I understand, that's it, that's it, it hasn't

2563
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,520
been evaluated yet, I'll tell you about

2564
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,159
this step, basically it's on the

2565
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:26,000
current budget.

2566
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,990
It's beautiful. THANKS.

2567
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,560
So I'll take one last

2568
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:32,280
question.

2569
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,239
Yes. Because listen to me, I'm approaching things

2570
01:39:35,239 --> 01:39:37,159
in a similar way to the two ladies.

2571
01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:39,440
Uh, talking about a framework, but a framework is a...

2572
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:44,840
So if we look here you have 30

2573
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,040
at the guardian angel 13, we're talking about a good

2574
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:48,800
price of 20.

2575
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,159
What's the question in relation to that

2576
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:52,360
? Well, I find it

2577
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,679
very expensive to have such a

2578
01:39:55,679 --> 01:39:57,239
high p for a small

2579
01:39:57,239 --> 01:40:03,350
municipality. Yeah, to

2580
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,719
have a type of... Yeah,

2581
01:40:05,719 --> 01:40:10,149
but that's what was

2582
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,520
explained earlier. And

2583
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,599
secondly, also more mobile, when you

2584
01:40:14,599 --> 01:40:16,760
look at the figures it's very high. Is it

2585
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,280
an electric car?

2586
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,920
Well no, it's a mini, a mini bus

2587
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:22,639
like a 16.

2588
01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:24,599
Yeah. Yeah. I see them passing by my house

2589
01:40:24,599 --> 01:40:26,040
. So that means that at that

2590
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,000
moment,

2591
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,239
there is no economy, it's

2592
01:40:28,239 --> 01:40:30,159
oil. It just goes on and on.

2593
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:31,639
As I said earlier, it's a

2594
01:40:31,639 --> 01:40:33,320
service. Yeah

2595
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:34,800
, but you know, sometimes

2596
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,440
I find that we're in a

2597
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,480
period of uncertainty pretty much everywhere.

2598
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:43,360
Well, in the municipality, obviously, there are

2599
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,119
people who are quite wealthy, and there are

2600
01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:47,239
others who are less so. So,

2601
01:40:47,239 --> 01:40:49,040
I think that at that time, the last

2602
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,080
time, there were people who were

2603
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,119
talking about it too. You need to be a little

2604
01:40:52,119 --> 01:40:53,880
more vigilant and pay attention to

2605
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,000
certain expenses. Uh, you live

2606
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,320
here, you know that. So, there are

2607
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,679
certain things there that could

2608
01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:01,560
be changed in the eventuality.

2609
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,440
Indeed, but I would say to you, uh,

2610
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:05,159
you were talking to me about vision, uh, the

2611
01:41:05,159 --> 01:41:06,560
last time we saw each other, well, that's

2612
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,840
part of our vision.

2613
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,760
The fact is, we often talk about the

2614
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,480
environment, well, if we succeed in

2615
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,119
setting up public transport,

2616
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:17,239
we will have fewer cars on the

2617
01:41:17,239 --> 01:41:19,159
roads and provide services to our

2618
01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:21,320
citizens, our young and our

2619
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,199
old, everyone, that is part of

2620
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:25,840
our vision. So I'm tempted to say if we didn't know

2621
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,840
, we won't know. So there's a

2622
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,280
lot of carpooling too. So it's

2623
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:32,760
the neighbor.

2624
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:33,920
Yes, I hear you. But you know, you

2625
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,119
agree with me that a teenager, uh,

2626
01:41:36,119 --> 01:41:39,119
you know, he's not going to wait for a taxi. In short

2627
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:41,000
, it's a political decision that we made

2628
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,880
. Then uh I think I speak on

2629
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,800
behalf of the council, but you take responsibility, we

2630
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,159
try to see if it can meet a

2631
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:49,679
need. As I mentioned

2632
01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:53,950
earlier, clearly, we know, this is not something that is

2633
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,440
profitable.

2634
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:57,280
It's a service to the citizens. Yes,

2635
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,920
that's for sure. You're also talking about a

2636
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:02,239
[ __ ] ball field, uh,

2637
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:03,280
could that be a

2638
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:04,880
possibility of doing something

2639
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,280
inside it for the time being? No, because we don't have the

2640
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:08,520
information, we don't have the

2641
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,760
infrastructure at the moment.

2642
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,599
Could accommodate that. OK.

2643
01:42:14,599 --> 01:42:15,760
No, but it's because sometimes there are

2644
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,000
places that are free that

2645
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,639
can be used. You have

2646
01:42:19,639 --> 01:42:21,480
buildings that are not in use. We don't have any

2647
01:42:21,480 --> 01:42:23,040
at the moment.

2648
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,159
There are rentals that can be

2649
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:29,360
made at the gym, for example. People, go ahead,

2650
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:29,639
yes,

2651
01:42:29,639 --> 01:42:31,880
or

2652
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:37,470
someone, thank you very much

2653
01:42:37,480 --> 01:42:38,880
for your

2654
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,470
participation. This will bring

2655
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:44,639
the meeting to a close. So I will now ask for a

2656
01:42:44,639 --> 01:42:47,550
motion to adjourn the meeting.

2657
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,400
Thank you very much, thank you all for

2658
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,960
being here. Have a very pleasant evening.