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I to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.

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» God bless America.
>> Remain standing for prayer. Father we

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thank thee for this evening. We thank
thee for Salem Township. We thank thee

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for those that have
been in positions of leadership. We pray

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for our leaders. We pray for our
country. We pray for our neighbors. We

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pray that we uh love one another and
care for one another. And we know we

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have a lot of elderly people in our
township. We pray for them. We know a

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lot of them are hurting. We lift them up
tonight. We just thank these so much for

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how much you love us and how much you
care for us. And we again we ask that uh

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you would bless our community, bless our
families, draw us close together. Thank

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you for all you've done in Jesus name.
Amen.

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Okay, welcome again everybody.
Hopefully you got something to drink or

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eat back there. Help us out.
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make sure your mics are on so we can
hear you

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and uh roll call tonight. Everybody's
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The agenda's before us. Do we have any
additions or deletions at this time?

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All right. So, the agenda stands as
approved. We have a few presentations

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tonight. So, please be patient with with
us. I I appreciate it. So, tonight first

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we're going to have our our annual
audit. We have Matt with us from uh

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Cambridge and uh we're going to give you
the floor now.

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Just tell us how much money we're making

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while

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I have a draft in front of you.
Mic on right now.

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» Is the mic on right now?
>> Push the green button.

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» Oh, yeah.
>> So, I believe you all have should have a

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draft in front of you. Uh, paper copy of
the report. Uh what we always like to

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point out first is on page one of our
physical page. This is the opinion the

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town should receive. You receive an
unmodified opinion. Doesn't actually

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explicitly use those words, but that's
what you guys should expect to receive

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every year. Um it's my guarantee. So
congratulations on that. Um mainly it's

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you can rely on that the financial
receipt are accurate.

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So next I'd like to go to page seven.
This is a comparative statement in net

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position showing how the balance sheet
years depended year-over-year the last

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two years. Um
overall no real major change of changes

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this year uh for current assets uh
current liabilities

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assets long-term assets are increasing
largely in part to the infrastructure

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streetscape project that was going on
and the finalization of the water and

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sewer plan. You can also see the um
long-term and short-term liabilities.

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Really no major change there.
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comparative state of activities showing
the income.

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So there we see no real major changes uh
besides operating grants and

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contributions and capital grants just
with all the funding of a couple of

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those projects were ongoing and the
finalization of most water and sewer

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projects that have been going on.
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fairly steady. This is on the full
approval side. So it doesn't really

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recognize that one time expenditure of
the street safe project which we'll talk

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about in a little bit. So we go to page
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This is the balance sheet or the fund
statement for the general fund which you

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can see at the most recent year end with
a unassigned fund balance of roughly

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$19.5 million. Uh so that's for the
current year 308% of your annualized

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expenditures. Meaning if you spent like
this past year you'd be able to go

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through three years. Obviously you did
have that kind of onetime expenditure

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this year with the streetscape
project going on. Uh so if you remove

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that it's actually closer to 900% to
your average annual insurance probably

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$2.1.2 million. So meaning you can go 9
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That's a very healthy fund balance.
Obviously Salem is in a different

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position than a lot of townships where
you don't need that operating tax

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royalties. It's kind of a different ball
game than a lot of townships. So

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page 19. This is a just a change in in
fund balance per year for the general

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fund. Really again just pointing out
that that public works is $4.5 million

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this year. That's that's not a normal
number one time, but that's why you had

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an abruptly $700,000
decrease in fund balance.

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All the past few years, it's always been
abruptly $2.5 million increase. Okay,

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it's kind of a change this year, but
still very fun balance and one time

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page 22 and page 23
are the income and cash flow statements

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for the water and super fun enterprise
funds which are accounted for slightly

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different than governmental funds and
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Um you can see the operating income
income loss operating losses for the

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water and sewer fund. Uh it's kind of a
standard with the depreciation of

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non-cash transactions ongoing there. Um
that will obviously increase

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significantly as those two projects come
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Um we also see the charges for services
increasing as well hopefully. So next is

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next page is the cash flow statement. So
this is something I'd always just

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monitoring in the future. Obviously the
system just being built you don't really

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have hopefully a lot of infrastructure
build up that's needed after that for a

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while. But it is something to monitor
long term with those projects if you

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want to self fun with cash you got out
of hand versus uh doing debt financing

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which is what a lot of cities and
buildings end up doing. So that's always

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something to pay attention to in the
future but kind of long term in there.

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Then next page page 44 big jump to the
budget in between there is just the

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footnotes a lot of talking about
what represents cash how cash is made up

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and other assets liabilities so it's
very exciting read that future uh so for

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the budget segment I always love to be
able to point out that you guys have no

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budget exceptions so not going to get
any love letters from the states saying

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budget how are you going to fix this in
the future so obviously you guys are

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reviewing and amending that is necessary
so always great to see as well. Um,

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besides that, we had no findings on the
report on internal control. So, uh,

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no control deficiencies that we noted,
no

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major issues that we saw with the
financial information we received coming

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in to what we used to generate the
report. So, it's always a great feel to

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say as well. Thanks to the staff
controversy

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any questions for the auditor board
members.

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» How when you do your benchmarking
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» So like I said you guys are kind of in
that special situation which is nice. Uh

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you have that landfill running.
As far as most townships you are on the

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very high end for fund balance
in terms of fiscal health I would say

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top
you might want to look at a different

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way
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that kind of thought process of at some
point building there is exist

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for capacity and DQ or agility or
whatever named that here um isn't going

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to approve a permit or something. Maybe
they will maybe they'll keep doing

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perpetuity, but at some point if you do
it where you don't have tax, that's

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always probably the best use of
resources for

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resources

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and kind of be good stewards, right? So
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» I think u Joe, your uh the owner of
whatever the company, they've always

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said, "You need to spend some money, you
know." So, we finally

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» did a project out here finally and it's
taken forever, but uh we're kind of

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winding down on it. So,
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You do have to take that back where it
is. You have too much, right? probably

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if you're not signing more tax but can't
go lower than zero.

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» Any other questions for the auditor?
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If not, thanks Matt. We appreciate it.
>> Yeah, thank you for your time.

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» Appreciate that. You and Lori and all
work together and uh appreciate Lori and

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everybody started working the office
getting stuff together and getting what

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you need to make it complete. So, thanks
again. Appreciate you.

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All right,
moving down to the next presentation is

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uh speaking of the uh landfill
GFL.

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You all know Mr. Seager, general manager
and he's got somebody with him tonight.

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» Welcome.
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director for GFL. I'm just going to grab
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got a slideshow for you.

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» Yes.
>> Do we get to turn our lights on?

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HDMI 2.

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» Why didn't we have popcorn tonight?

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Just wanted to present this to the board
and to the township uh folks so kind of

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aware of what's going on at the
landfill. Uh make sure you're informed.

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Um so that's kind of why we decided to
do this tonight. Um try to keep you in

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the loop, right, of what's going on.

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» Remember Dave, our meetings are no more
than 45 minutes.

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as good as there's left. So knock out 45
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» All right. I will try to make it quick
for you. Um

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we are also presenting at the county MMP
meeting uh tomorrow and again next

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month. Tomorrow is
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Next month will be uh more compliance
focused and they're hoping to have some

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folks from Eagle there to
speak on our behalf,

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you know, uh yay or nay on whether they
believe what we're saying, but we've got

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a pretty good relationship, so I'm
confident it's going to go well. Um

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we've got the 2026 aerial photo. Uh you
can see the current landfill right there

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in the center. Our proposed expansion
would be north of 6 Mile Road. It's

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going to be about 90.5 acres.

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Um right now we've got our core parcel
where the landfill is now. We have a

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south area uh which houses
a gas to energy plant, a gas to RNG

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facility.
We have a MURF and we also have the uh

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household hazardous waste collection.
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Napier,
it's a buffer between us and the

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community. There's a wetland out there.
um some gradient wells and then the

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north area where we propose to expand
that is where our compost operations are

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currently happening in our borrow area.
Um with the expansion we currently meet

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all of the county sighting criteria
um with the exception of the wetland

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permit which we have applied for. Um
it's common

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uh to mitigate wetlands for landfill
expansions. As far as the state

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regulators and the EPA, it is
a more accepted a better practice than

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citing a green field landfill in another
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So Arbor Hills has been in operation for
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we manage close to 50% of the waste
generated in Washington County and we

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also manage um about 25% of the waste
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Um GFL acquired the landfill in 2020
um within days of the attorney general

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filing
a lawsuit against the previous operators

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for environmental compliance issues. Um,
we like to think, uh, Dave came on board

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at that time and it was pivotal and
there has been much progress since then.

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We're we're both very proud to work
there and very proud of the things that

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we do every day. Um,
as far as the design and compliance,

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uh, thoughts for our neighbors, we are
designing it with a planned thousand ft

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setback from Napier Road
to preserve that buffer. um the steeple

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chase which will be the closest
subdivision,

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it nearly doubles the distance between
the current landfill and the nearest

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neighborhood steeple chase
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so these are some of the items on
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um distance from designated historical
sites, flood planes, water speeches. Um

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the parcel that we proposed to site the
landfill expansion meets all of those

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criteria.
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well outside of that distance. Here you
can see the outline for the proposed

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footprint for the landfill. Um as you
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the eastern border of it intersects the
center of the current compost

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operations.
Um we are proposing to find a new

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location
for the compost operations and actually

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invest in and create
a better operation to manage odors. It's

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called a bore system. Everything's
covered. It's got irerration. um

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that those type of systems are also used
to manage food waste and avoid odors. So

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we feel that that would be a plus to the
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» So the 91 acre expansion
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provide about 10 years of additional
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Um, in discussions with the county, you
know, at the beginning there was a lot

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of hesitation regarding an expansion at
Arbor Hills Landfill due to the record

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prior to our acquisition.
Uh, permitting it for 10 years

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shows an end date. You know, we're not
asking for a hundred years and we get it

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and things fall back the way they were.
That's not going to happen.

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So, sighting and regulatory, we meet all
the sighting regulatory requirements. We

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actually had a pre-application meeting
with Eagle last month. Uh, show them all

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of our hydrog work for the post
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um they were happy about it. They didn't
ask for any changes. So they plan to uh

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begin reviewing the draft of the
hydrogel here soon.

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Uh as you can see here, this is the
distance to the neighboring

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neighborhoods
which I was talking about. Currently,

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we're just under 1,500 ft from
steeplechase. We're going to be over

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2100 ft with the expansion. We're
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We had uh one of our engineering
consultants do a line of sight

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projection for Northville.
Um, we have three different points

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within the county that I brought with me
today. Um, one of them is the park over

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on uh, Beck Road.
We've got some viewpoints from

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Steeplechase subdivision from the one
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6 mile. And
um because of the smaller footprint, it

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restricts the elevation, the final
elevation of the landfill. And at final

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buildout,
there's one home in the subdivision

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south of 6 mile that will barely see the
crest of the landfill over the trees

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from their second story window. So,
we're thinking of our neighbors.

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So, this just talks about our commitment
to environmental compliance. Uh, as far

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as the enhanced monitoring and
maintenance that goes on the landfill

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currently,
um, not only because we have been trying

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to improve it, but
there are requirements from the consent

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judgment that was signed, negotiated as
part of the settlement of the AG's

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lawsuit, but we have already committed
to the AG to continue the requirements

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of consent judgment in the expansion
area.

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Um the
current landfill, one of the things that

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we've always posted about was the liner
system of the landfill and we use

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utilize a double composite liner system.
We're going to continue that in the

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expansion
um system integration.

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The leech and the gas
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so that the leech gets the same
pre-treatment before it goes to yaka

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and the local sewer system and the gas
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Uh this is a summary of our
environmental monitoring. You know,

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these are several that of the things.
I'm not going to go through all of them

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because I know that's a quick meeting,
but we've got copies.

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I mean these are a lot but definitely
not all-encompassing of the things that

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we do daily, monthly, quarterly land
very small.

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Um, as far as air quality, if you look
at this slide, um, this slide actually

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came from CTI consultants who Northville
contracted

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last year to evaluate our air compliance
at the landfill.

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Uh if you look at the methane plume
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uh 31 I believe it's kilograms per hour
compared to all of the other large sites

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in southeast Michigan. Um we have this
demonstrates that we have a lot better

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control on our gas collection and
control system.

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Uh
continuing on with our landfill gas

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collection. Um upon acquisition, one of
the things that we negotiated with the

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gas developer
for the RNG plant is for us to regain

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control of the landfill wellfield, the
gas well field. Uh previously under

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advanced disposals ownership the
developer maintained the wellfield

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um
which it was about profit not

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compliance. So it was our stipulation in
that contract that we regain control of

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the wealth field. We maintain it for
compliance.

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Um every day we've got at least eight
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monitoring, tuning, repairing things in
the wall field. Um the last three cells

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that were built on that northeast
corner, um there were protections in

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place as part of the CJ for earlier gas
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and also odor control.
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um with each cell. We got better. Um the
first two

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odor complaints rose when we started
putting waste in those cells. With this

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last one, we
implemented um bond collection in the

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cell, a very robust series of horizontal
collectors. And when we began placing

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waste in that cell,
odor complaints went down.

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We feel like we're on to something. And
we've actually GFL as a company, we have

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implemented that same system at all of
our other landfills in Michigan that

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we've constructed new year.

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Uh this is the air quality compliance
record. Um last 6 years under previous

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ownership they've had 32
air quality compliance violations mostly

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related to odors. Um since we have
acquired it they immediately drop.

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Um, we've had 12 total in the last 6
years. And unfortunately, the one that

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we just received recently was
administrative.

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When we acquired the landfill and put
all of the

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uh compliance deadlines into our
tracking system, the stack testing for

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the flare was missed. It should have
been done in 2024.

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Um,
as soon as we discovered it and Eagle

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discovered it, uh, we had it scheduled
before we even received the violation

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and it was completed before our response
was due and both of those players

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passed with right around half the
allowable admissions. So it was

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unfortunate but
it was a good outcome if there is one um

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perimeter and school monitoring. We have
continuous

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uh methane and H2S testing
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current landfill. We will install more
around the expansion area. Um those help

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us detect problems on the hill. They're
very uh they've got a low threshold

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alarm. Um as far as emissions on the
hill, 500 parts per million is an

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exceedence on a surface emissions
inspection right on the landfill cover.

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These detect methane at 40 parts per
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property. Um,
we have voluntary third-party monitoring

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uh for odors
around the landfill and throughout the

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community. They monitor monitor about 40
different points

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around the landfill and the community
every morning and every evening. and we

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immediately receive those reports so
that you know we know if there's a

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problem.
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voluntary.

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Um we also have a continuous H2S monitor
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uh that was installed a little over 5
years ago as a result of uh consent

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order. However, that monitoring
requirement expired last December

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and we reached out to Ridgewood
Elementary and offered to extend it for

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an additional 5 years. It has never
registered

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uh and exceeds

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uh legacy environmental issues.
uh that we inherited.

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There was a fire at the MURF in 2016.
Several fire departments responded about

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the fire with HF
Aqua's film fighting foam uh which has

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since then been banned for use due to
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We have cleaned up storm water ponds. Uh
the remaining PAS due to that incident

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is in a protected wetland on the site.
We had a third party consultant do a

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short-term water characterization study
for the site and the recommendations

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that they gave the site Eagle was to
sequester it leave it in place. Well,

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we have since discovered that it is
seeping under the railroad bed

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into our storm water pond and we reached
out we reached out to several

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departments with Eagle had a meeting
early this year. Uh we are waiting on

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approval of permits from both the
wetland department. And it has to go to

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the EPA too because of the number of
acres, but we are waiting for them to

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let us clean this up.
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so that's where that is. We we can't
touch it until they let us. We even

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reached out to see if they would let us
lower the levels in the wetland while

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we're waiting for the permit, and they
still have not responded. I don't think

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they know who can make that decision
right now. Um, with the last three cells

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that were built, we relocated waste
which was pre- subtitle D. It was

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outside of liner.
So that's an environmental protection

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for the community. Get that within a
line cell where we're not going to have

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the risk.
um and Wayne County road permits.

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Uh we do pay permits and bonds to both
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uh we perform, we contract and pay for
repairs to the road that the county

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determines are due to the truck traffic
coming to the landfill.

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uh our community stewardship. I think
most of you already see what Dave does

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for the community. Um we are happy to
support. We enjoy it. Um anything from

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cleanup, sponsorships,
you name it. Dave has a hard time saying

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no.

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Uh, Arbor Hills Landfell,
besides

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your auditor's report, um, Arbor Hills
Landfill actually has a $40 million

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annual impact
throughout the state and the local

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communities. Uh, not only for
we employ

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I believe it's over 40 people at the
site. uh many of which are union

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operators.
Um the rest goes to community support,

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uh local goods and services and our
hosts and permit fees.

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Uh Arbor Hills Energy, the electric
plant, uh that was the primary

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gas energy plant for the site. uh it now
operates on demand. They have a contract

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with DTE that uh they send there and
create electricity to support the grid

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in times of peak electricity usage.

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Emerald RNG the new RNG plant uh
capacity is about 10,000 SCFM. It is

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large enough to handle the gas generated
in the proposed expansion area. Gas

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generation once we close the current
landfill hill will begin to go down.

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Gaps will go up. So it should stay
pretty steady. Um, the plant creates

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enough clean renewable fuel power uh to
fuel the equivalent of 11, 1100 CNG

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trucks or to heat about 22,000 homes.

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I'm not sure what these green headers
are up there, but citizen convenience

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area that we provide for the community.
Um, San Township residents can bring

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waste and recycling in for free. Uh,
other areas of the local community can

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bring recycling in for free. Uh, but
there's a standard fee for waste drop

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off.
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we process about 4,500 tons of waste
through that citizen area and it's it's

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a safer alternative than sending small
vehicles up the hill.

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It's quick and easy access. Um the
household hazardous waste. Uh this was a

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facility that Dave actually negotiated
during the consent judgment. rather than

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pay a huge amount of fines to the state
that no one will ever see locally,

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they took the initiative to
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offer ideas that would directly impact
the community. So, this was done in a

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partnership with Washington County. Um,
we built and totally fund all the

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operations there along with
uh the proper disposal of household

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hazardous waste and the facility is
operated by county.

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The leech pre-treatment facility uh has
been in place for several years now. Um

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treating the leech prior to it going to
yucka. Um last year we received reduced

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limits for PAS arsenic ammonia.
So we have been working with Yaka and

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engineers to
uh upgrade the facility.

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We found that we are able to get the PAS
close, you know, where it needs to be,

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not completely consistently,
but we're having a hard time with the

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species of arsenic that we're seeing.
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the original plan was to upgrade the uh
granular activated carbon system that we

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have and we've now learned that we're
going to have to re-engineer it and move

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to reverse osmosis so that we can make
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uh I already talked about the compost
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I believe that's actually supposed to be
90,000 yards of leaves, uh, grass

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clippings from local residents,
landscape contractors, residential

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subscription haulers. Um, you know, we
want to move that and convert to a

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better system that will help support the
county and local communities

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sustainability goals. The materials
recovery facility processes about 20,000

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tons per year. Uh was recently
expanded and they have also installed uh

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new shredding equip equipment to
uh increase the capacity and they are

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also looking to diversify the types of
materials that they can process there.

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So continue capital investment. I think
that you know a lot of that I've already

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talked about as far as uh mitigating the
PAS impacted areas

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uh improvements to the lease system, the
gas collection system,

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uh site and operations

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postclosure uses. Uh that's one thing
that the county has wanted to talk

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about. However, it's still an active
site. It's a little premature. Um upon

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final closure, you know,
we will still be responsible for many

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years of care and maintenance, a minimum
of 30. And we carry financial assurance

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bonds to make sure that that is taken
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» Um
the and when it is finally closed, I

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mean, we look forward to working with
the community and the county to

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uh find a better use that works for you.
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one of the things I'll touch on very
quickly, you can see it in the back

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because I know we're getting long here,
but um, disposal capacity in Southeast

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Michigan, the
maps that you have there

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demonstrates the landfills that are
going to be closing, they're currently

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open and are going to be closing in
southeast Michigan.

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Um,
if you go to the next,

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this is 5 years from now, and this does
not take into account

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diversion from any of the landfills that
will be closed by then, including Harbor

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Hills. And then 10 years from now, still
not redirecting any of the waste from

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those landfills that are closing,
we're going to be left with two

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landfills in southeast Michigan uh able
to accept waste. Um

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it's
it's pretty concerning reality. I mean,

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» you know, the farther you have to go,
the more trucks you have on the road,

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the more emissions. You know, the longer
a driver's on the road, the more risk.

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I think it's very important to know
because there's some misinformation out

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there. We post a bond for the landfill
go bankrupt tomorrow. We turn the bond

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in, there's money there to take care of
the landfill. It's not you only got a

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$3,500 bond. It's enough in that bond
that we'd have to call the bond in or

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state would call a bond in and collect
all the money to close the site. So

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people have given numbers that are
nowhere close to what that bond is for,

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but that bond is reviewed every year to
make sure it would cover if we all

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packed our bags and took off tomorrow.
Um, so it's important that this this

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landfill has two liners. Most landfills
only have one is a double composite

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liner which is kind of unusual. Um it's
just an extra safeguard for the

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landfill. I think that's very important.
Again, there's things we do because of

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the consent judgment. Um but we go we we
want to be above compliance right at all

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times. All you know uh I say it every
day to my employees and they know we go

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to work every day to do the right thing,
right? It works out in the long run.

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That's been my model for 40 years. It's
worked very well for

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so we run a very good landfill. We run a
great landfill. Uh we just kind of want

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to get everybody give you some
information. There's a lot of

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misinformation out there which is very
uh misleading and very uh

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um
it's not right that long reach out

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there. Um, we see a lot of it. But
again, you can check with Eagle, call

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Eagle, uh, and ask where we're at. Uh,
folks will talk to you. I think it's

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it's, uh, it's too bad that people are
kind of using fear to put fear in the

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neighborhoods and fear, you know, in in
local residents um, by misleading

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information. I don't believe that's
right.

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» Thank you very much.
>> All right. Do we have any questions?

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Yes.
>> The actual distance from uh the landfill

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to the power line,
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the same as what it is now.
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» Yeah, it's actually further away.
There's a zone in there where there's

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some infrastructure, uh maintenance
building and all that. So, there's quite

426
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:19,280
uh a distance on that side, too. I can't
remember. Right off the top of

427
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:24,720
» the village kind of right next to Kelly
there. So, it'll be a ways away from

428
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:27,760
Italy's there's a power line and I can't
I don't have the distance right off the

429
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,760
top of my head. There's a maintenance
facility. There's some infrastructure

430
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:36,640
that'll be in that. It'll be a lot like
the other side. We're not going property

431
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:42,520
line to property line. Right. So,
>> there'll be no BM or anything that

432
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,520
you'll put on the on the west.

433
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,760
» Hey,
and just a couple quick questions. uh

434
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,560
third party monitor that you folks
utilize. Who is that company and I

435
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:59,280
assume it's computerized in some way,
shape or form that they are able to

436
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:03,520
track 40 different locations?
>> Actually, no. They get in a car and they

437
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:09,520
drive to them locations every morning
and every afternoon at random times and

438
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:13,599
they use a good old sniffer or nose.
They smell something. Um, they have what

439
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:17,760
they call nasal ranger that they stick
up their nose and then I think it's like

440
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:22,160
one to five or something and they turn
it up, you know, they start at five and

441
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,560
turn it down so they can smell it. Um,
and then it's it's a rated on one

442
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:29,760
through five. Uh, they can smell
something.

443
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,359
» Is that how they uh do their checks at
the elementary school as well?

444
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:39,760
» No, that's that's a that's an air
monitor that's computerized that's live.

445
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Um, and again there that's been in place
70 probably when I first got here 2020

446
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:51,280
right before that that was installed.
Um, it's never had a hit above that

447
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:56,480
ground and that's all computerized
>> that and the perimeter monitors

448
00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:02,000
along
our property line. Those are all 24-hour

449
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,640
monitoring
and those go to a publicly facing

450
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:10,560
website that anybody can access.
>> It's a computerized system that takes

451
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:14,560
all the wind, the parametric pressure.
It takes a lot of things into account.

452
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:18,720
It gives us a back trajectory to where
possibly that odor could be coming from.

453
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:25,119
It kind of ges out on it. You look at on
the computer, it gives you

454
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:32,319
pretty good stuff. Pretty good.
Do you have any uh projections on future

455
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:37,040
road improvements for five mile road
east of Napier going toward Ridge?

456
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:41,839
» All of the future development that's
occurring, the new meer that's going to

457
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:48,240
open up. U there's already two new
businesses that have got situated uh

458
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:52,000
North Lumber and
something that's happening on the

459
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,280
» That's a good question. So there's a lot
of truck traffic that's complained about

460
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:59,359
from the landfill. There's the
warehouses which means the goods will be

461
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:04,319
trucked in trucked out company trucked
in trucked outer truck in truck out and

462
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,560
then the new cable company adding more
trucks to that. But what I've done uh

463
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:15,359
since I've been here was before I got
here was we spent u a minimum of

464
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:21,920
$150,000 a year on any improvements as
part of our road bond from Napier to

465
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:25,520
M14. that's back the five mile to nap.
Um any improvements that are needed on

466
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:31,440
that I meet with the county every year
and they give me a list of things they

467
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:36,720
want done. So 3 years ago, four years
ago, I spent $450,000

468
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:42,079
on the clover just north of the railroad
tracks was put in in 1920s 1930s was

469
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:47,280
disintegrating. So I replaced that with
a box culver this year. Actually Friday

470
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:53,200
we sent bids out. We're going to repair
the whole intersection at five mile an

471
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:58,200
acre. So that's we uh the county I met
with the county. We talked about it. Uh

472
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:05,440
» so I talked to the county about it. They
gave me all the uh the requirements. Uh

473
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,359
we built the blueprints and they were
sent out Friday. So, I'm rushing to get

474
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:14,240
the uh the uh bids back and get it going
as quick as possible because it's

475
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,880
Michigan and it's going to get cold and
I want to get it done uh this year. So,

476
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,599
um
next year we could probably go north to

477
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,240
the other intersection.
>> Yay.

478
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:34,240
with that area being designated by the
state for you know economic development.

479
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Uh is the state willing to belly up to
the bar and help with uh reconstructing

480
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:47,920
that section of five mile between Napier
and Ridge or is everybody looking to you

481
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:53,359
good folks to bite the bite the apple
>> TV? So, I'm not sure um I'm not sure

482
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:57,920
what's happening with that along in
there. Um I can't answer that question

483
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:02,480
other than
>> they fixed Plymouth did get some grant

484
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,000
both sides. So, they are going to put
that money towards that level.

485
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:10,319
» I hope so. It'd be great. I am going to
fix the intersection. I know it's been

486
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:16,000
bad for a long time and kind of been
going back and forth about that, but um

487
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:19,280
» it's coming. So, coming sooner than
later.

488
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,599
» Thank you. appreciate the response.
>> No, I think it's important that we talk

489
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:28,640
about that the wetland relocation and
we've seen that on the blogs. Um, we

490
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:34,319
bought a nice piece of property, uh, the
Bot Farm on Curry Road, 5 mile north and

491
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:38,400
south of 6 mile. We have a design for
that. There's going to be walking paths

492
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:42,960
in there, a parking lot, a pavilion.
It's going to be turned into a park uh

493
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:48,960
for the community which you probably
read on some blogs that you guys get the

494
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:55,680
park and um you know we're moving
wetlands and it's two to one so for

495
00:47:52,400 --> 00:48:00,240
everyone we make two more um so it's a
huge improvement more wetlands we're

496
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:05,520
going to get a beautiful park again talk
about the construction on five pile what

497
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:09,680
have we got for that have we
has any is anybody replacing that with

498
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,240
all that habitat that was in there for
that wildlife that's now destroyed. I

499
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:20,880
highly doubt it. But we're doing the
right thing.

500
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:26,160
» Good to know on the wetland that we are
creating on the box property that will

501
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:33,880
carry a 50year
uh conservation ement where it can't be.

502
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:41,839
Just one other question about the
>> POS

503
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,119
» project that you're doing.
>> Is did you say that that's leaking from

504
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:49,920
somewhere or is this from was it from
the fire? So I'm getting that mixed up

505
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,440
from the fire.
>> Yeah. So there if you when you go to the

506
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,599
citizens area to drop off, you see like
the little above the BMB and there's the

507
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:01,440
trees there. That's a wetland in there
and it's federally protected. Right. So

508
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,440
the pond next to it had PAS in it
because that's where all the storm water

509
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:09,680
uh drained from the murf and then it
went from there and drained into the

510
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:13,359
wetlands. Uh so we cut off cut it off so
nothing could drain anywhere anymore.

511
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,119
But it had already happened, right? So I
went in and cleaned the big pond up that

512
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:21,440
you see next to the blue tanks. We went
in there and cleaned that up because we

513
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:25,119
could. Um our next step is is the
wetland area and that's why we got to

514
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:29,119
relocate it. We we originally decided
okay just let's leave it in place but we

515
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:35,599
did find out that it is is drained
through the ground right to our storm

516
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:41,040
water pump. So you see that
uh on certain things that the landfills

517
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:46,880
uh discharging POS it's not actually the
landfill it's from that wet land right

518
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:51,359
so um we we figured that out that it's
it's going through the ground so we want

519
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:56,079
to clean that wetlands up and we'll make
it so it doesn't do that anymore they

520
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,319
have to get all these there's a lot that
goes into a lot of agencies a lot of

521
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:04,880
permits uh we got to just wait for them
to They go ahead and as soon as they

522
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:12,079
give us a green light, we'll vote for
it. So, uh, that'll stop that.

523
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:14,880
» Beautiful. Any other questions?
All right. Appreciate you guys.

524
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:19,400
» Thank you.
>> Appreciate everything you do for the

525
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,400
township.

526
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,960
» All right. So, moving on down to public
comments.

527
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:33,599
» Remember, our public I know some new
people here. We get three minutes and uh

528
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:37,800
so keep it short. Yes, Jay.
>> Thank you for the smooth road.

529
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,559
» Okay. Anyone else?
>> Yes.

530
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:51,920
» Um I have a question regarding the board
meeting minutes. Um the online are only

531
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:59,720
available.
I wonder why that is. And

532
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,720
I'll check on that.

533
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:10,280
» I didn't check it.

534
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:17,680
» All right. Thank you. All right.
Anybody? Yes.

535
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:22,800
» Hi. Uh, my name is Rochelle. I am the
manager and president of Midwest Private

536
00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:28,079
Rescue. Um, currently we're in Plymouth,
but we have to leave Plymouth. We've

537
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:32,880
been there for 21 years. Um, every
municipality within Michigan knows who

538
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,720
we are. Calls upon us if they find a
domestic rabbit running their yard. We

539
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:42,240
are licensed with the Department of
Agriculture and get inspections every

540
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:48,720
year. We wanted to move to Salem, Salem
Township, specifically uh 5 mile and

541
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:54,880
eight trail. There's been uh a building
that's been vacant for over a year. Um

542
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:59,920
it was perfect in my vision of what we
would love, what we would need. Um these

543
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,160
are indoor animals only. They don't run
around loose. We don't have we don't

544
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:09,680
they're not supposed to be in a barn. Um
we give them spay and neutered. We adopt

545
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:13,119
them out. Um I also do programs with the
National Honor Society, with the

546
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,480
schools, uh with the colleges for
volunteer.

547
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,599
um haven't done it in a little bit
because of COVID, but we also work with

548
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,680
the court system. So, someone may have
to do community service

549
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,280
volunteer.
So, we would love to move into Salem. Um

550
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:34,160
by doing so, I have at least 15 to 30
volunteers that come out every day to

551
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:39,280
help clean and do all of that. And uh so
that would also bring y'all if you have

552
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:43,760
small businesses. Volunteers would
frequent those businesses and spend

553
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:49,119
money. So,
um I don't know what is involved to get

554
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:54,240
it approved for us to move in. Uh there
is a cemetery right next door, so I know

555
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:58,480
they're not going to complain.
Not enough, you know, pretty far away

556
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:02,720
from anybody. I mean, currently we are
in downtown Plymouth. That is where

557
00:53:00,319 --> 00:53:08,400
we've been for 21 years. Um haven't had
any complaints. Everybody loves us. Um,

558
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:13,119
but with the ordinances in Salem, I'm
not I'm kind I clearly don't understand

559
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,920
uh because there's horses right down the
street, regular horses.

560
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,319
» Sure.
>> So,

561
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:26,559
» okay. Well, thank you. Just if I can use
this public comment, I'm not supposed to

562
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:31,760
talk, but if if you would just uh call
the office here and uh make an

563
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:38,640
appointment with uh our planner. He's
here Tuesday from uh 9 till noon. Okay.

564
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:44,240
And make an appointment with him and
come on in and uh we'll get all the

565
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:48,400
information and help you out.
>> Yeah, we'd love to be a part of

566
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,960
» No, it sounds interesting.
>> Is that the uh Is that the Is that the

567
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Brownie? Is that the Brownie sign
building

568
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:03,240
» something we're talking about? Yeah.
>> All right. Well, thank you very much.

569
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:03,240
» I have a vision. Sure.

570
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,680
» Really pretty.

571
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:14,040
» Sounds good.
>> Thank you for being here tonight.

572
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:14,040
» Okay. Who's next?

573
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:22,720
» Okay. If not, we're going to go down.
Oh, I'm sorry.

574
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,839
» I'm sorry. I didn't see your hand.
>> That's okay. I was keeping it really

575
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:31,119
discreet.
>> Hi everybody. I'm Davey. I'm a Salem

576
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,720
precinct delegate. We've got some other
Salem precinct delegates in the room.

577
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,559
Would you please raise your hand?
>> Yay. Um, just to let you know that we

578
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:44,880
meet monthly to bring our neighbors
together so we can just talk about

579
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:49,920
what's going on locally
in Michigan and nationally. We start

580
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:54,559
with snacks and chat and pledge and
prayer and then we just kind of hash

581
00:54:52,160 --> 00:55:00,079
things out. We share information. The
next meeting is September 24th.

582
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:09,200
And we are being hosted by Three
Seaters. Um, so come on down. Uh, I'm

583
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:13,520
sure we'll get some donuts inside.
>> Thanks, Three.

584
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:19,599
» So, um, there's some little leaflets on
the back. Please take one and join us. I

585
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:25,720
also want to give an update
on the citizens only vote amendment.

586
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:33,040
Um, our board of elections and Michigan
board of canvasers, in my opinion, have

587
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:40,400
failed
the voters it serves.

588
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:48,240
Over 79,000
voters signed petitions to get the

589
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:52,079
amendment on the ballot.
That's 79,000

590
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:56,200
voters
who are now disenfranchised.

591
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:02,280
This is an 8020 issue. This is
nonpartisan.

592
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:12,480
Over 80% of Michigan,
82% of Michigan voters want only

593
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:20,559
citizens to vote.
84 to 87 of Americans want only citizens

594
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:24,040
to vote. And yet this amendment failed
in the process.

595
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:33,599
Petitions were turned in in March and
then they were slowwalked for five

596
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:42,319
months,
leaving the sponsors only a few days to

597
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:49,599
support any challenges that were made.
The board of canvasers comprises of two

598
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:55,760
Democrats and two Republicans
and the vote at the end of the day was

599
00:56:53,359 --> 00:57:02,319
along party lines.
This is not a political

600
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:07,119
issue. It shouldn't be a political
issue,

601
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:13,040
but we've been failed.
I also have personal concerns. So, I've

602
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:17,760
been involved and embedded in this
petition process for all of these

603
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:23,520
people.
I've sat through a 7-hour board of

604
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:28,319
canvaser meeting where they quibbled
over does this signature match this

605
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:34,240
signature?
And the sponsors provided affidavit

606
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:40,640
where signatures were challenged.
The sponsors provided affidavit of

607
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:48,000
people saying I, you know, Joe Smith
attest under penalty of perjury that

608
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:54,160
yes, I signed my name to that petition.
And yet, not all four of the board of

609
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:59,760
counselors accepted that. It's a
travesty. It's a travesty for all of

610
00:57:56,319 --> 00:58:03,760
Michigan. People who only want citizens
to vote.

611
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,880
My personal concerns are around the
process.

612
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:16,079
Um, the process was supposed to select
out of that 700,000 signatures,

613
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:24,240
select a random
1,000 signatures to be held. And yet the

614
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:30,280
algorithm and the computer program that
selected those random signatures are not

615
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,280
trans.

616
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:45,119
There was no fair play.
About three weeks prior to this citizens

617
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:53,440
only vote petition process, another
Michigan money out of politics amendment

618
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:58,319
sailed through. And when
when the attorney had to get involved

619
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:03,359
and they looked at what standards were
being used for Michigan out of politics

620
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:10,200
and the standards for rejection for
citizens only vote, they were miles

621
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,200
apart. That's not fair.

622
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:23,280
The transparency
of what goes on behind the scenes is

623
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:30,200
going to be investigated.
It's too late to get the petition on the

624
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,200
ballot for 2026.

625
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:41,280
I just hope that you think deeply how
elections matter and elections have

626
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,720
consequences
and this is one of those consequences.

627
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,839
That's it.
>> Thanks.

628
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:54,480
» Thanks.
>> Thanks.

629
00:59:50,400 --> 01:00:00,880
» All right. Nobody else? If not, we're
going to the consent agenda for Wel.

630
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:04,480
» Very good. I move that Salem Township
approve the following consent agenda

631
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:13,079
items.
We have dispersements for um August of

632
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:13,079
out of the general fund of 493,656

633
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:19,000
and52
payroll of $57,246

634
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:29,240
escrow fund $4,530
sewer fund $23,96549

635
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:36,760
and uh the MEC water fund $1,557.87.

636
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Now for the invoices for the month of
September out of the general fund,

637
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,000
$529,83.97.

638
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,119
Escrow fund $11,9158.

639
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,000
Sewer fund $10,228.19.

640
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Water fund $1,557.87.

641
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:09,720
And lastly, uh, invoices for the MEEDC
fund, $93,4168.

642
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:19,520
Do we have a second on all these?
I'll second.

643
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:23,720
» Okay, John. Any other questions for
members on the consent agenda?

644
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:32,079
If not, all those in favor say I. Any
oppose?

645
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:38,160
Consent agenda is
Yes.

646
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:43,359
All right. Moving down to uh
business items is the conditional land

647
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:48,720
use for key capture energy project at
6709

648
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:53,920
East Joy Road.
So, I have a motion here and I move that

649
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Salem Township approve or deny the
conditional land use permit and primary

650
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:06,559
site plan to allow construction of a
battery battery energy storage system by

651
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:15,920
Key Capture Energy on the parcel located
at 6709 East Troy Road, West of Curtis,

652
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,040
as known as tax ID A0132
400.

653
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:23,200
-002
subject to and conditioned upon the

654
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:27,680
applicant agreeing to and meeting the
conditions on the use is recommended by

655
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:34,160
the Salem Township Planning Commission
on July the 20th, 2026 and the

656
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:39,240
conditions for approval as described in
detail in the attached exhibit A.

657
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:51,440
So we have um several of these in the
that are listed

658
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:59,599
uh is is in the exhibit is the emergency
operation plan safety sound and the

659
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:07,119
security repair minor site plan
amendments and host community agreement.

660
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:10,119
um hazardous substance.
Um

661
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:20,559
and then um the last one was added the
uh the township the application for the

662
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:27,039
renewal ready for the communities awards
and uh that have been talked about as

663
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:30,520
far as uh
the um

664
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:37,440
grants and everything that are out there
to receive. So that's uh number eight.

665
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,400
So, we have them listed here. I think
most of you might have seen them. I

666
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:47,680
think most of you know that the planning
commission has dealt with this for

667
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:54,720
several years and u and uh they had as
we said on the 20th or what date was it?

668
01:03:51,680 --> 01:04:00,640
Yeah, July 20th that uh they passed it 5
to2 in favor of uh passing it on to the

669
01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:10,400
board and now we're here addressing it.
I know we had talked about this at our

670
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:14,799
last meeting and um we did have a a good
uh meeting with a lot of people. We

671
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:19,119
invited a lot of the public and we
invited board members, planning

672
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:25,039
commission members to go with a facility
up with to co cold water, Michigan to

673
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:32,079
visit a plant there to see firsthand and
listen to some of the uh operations that

674
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:39,520
go on there. and uh
everybody came away with a positive re

675
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:43,680
positive uh outcome of what we had seen.
Um

676
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:47,520
I know we had I think a couple things we
had talked about as we went up there we

677
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:54,799
noticed that they did have fire
hydrants. We've asked Key Capture to

678
01:04:50,559 --> 01:05:01,440
consider putting in a well for us at
that facility. And it just I mean not

679
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:05,680
not to worry about all the details, but
as far as if these batteries catch on

680
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:11,520
fire, we know about batteries with cars
that you do have to let them burn out.

681
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:17,760
Um and um but the main thing is to keep
the others cool during the time so that

682
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:23,280
they don't ignite and start on fire. So
uh I believe we have a a storage

683
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:30,559
facility of tank of is it 30,000 gallons
of Jim along with um providing a well

684
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:38,079
that provides
u 60

685
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:41,680
» per minute and uh so anyway kind of
twofold if you ever been around with

686
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:46,559
fires around here because we don't have
public utilities

687
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:51,440
um it's good to have that kind of
facility in an area where even if a

688
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,880
house meets and we need to fill the
trucks up more with water, we have

689
01:05:53,119 --> 01:06:03,680
something that's close in that town. So,
it helps not only with this facility

690
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:06,960
that's going there, but also um other,
you know, things that might happen with

691
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:13,039
house fires and different stuff in the
area. So, um

692
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:16,799
what else? Any other questions? Go
ahead, John.

693
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,640
» Yeah. In regards to the batteries, how
are they cool or are they?

694
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,000
» Yeah.
>> Water involved.

695
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,520
» You mean if they're
>> just keeping the batteries?

696
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:32,000
» Yeah. Now, the the company's here
tonight, so Brian, you're more than

697
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:37,520
welcome to come on up here. We can fire
questions at you.

698
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:44,640
» Absolutely.
Uh thank you. So the uh the batteries

699
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:50,960
are cooled um with a uh uh glycol
ethylene glycol water mixture. Um and so

700
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:55,520
it's uh it's
it's enclosed within the battery units

701
01:06:52,880 --> 01:07:01,039
themselves. Uh they're little uh tubes
that run through the um the actual

702
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:04,319
container and help cool down the
batteries during operation. So it's a

703
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:08,720
closed loop system.
>> Correct. Yes.

704
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,440
Any
other questions?

705
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:22,240
I'll ask one
a little on the subject. Um, in the

706
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:29,039
materials that I review
that this battery storage system that

707
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:33,440
would be in our township would help
stabilizing the grid and provide backup

708
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:40,079
electricity.
Does our community actually benefit from

709
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:47,599
such a system if Hollywood is out like
lots of homes?

710
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:56,160
» Uh well the the benefits of the facility
um would be more regional. Um so while

711
01:07:53,200 --> 01:08:00,559
Salem Township would have some benefit
because facilities like battery energy

712
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:07,119
storage projects uh help stabilize the
grid by releasing power when uh when

713
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:12,160
there's excess uh demand and storing
power when there's uh excess supply. Uh

714
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:17,759
it helps regulate the the overall
stability of the grid. So, uh, that

715
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:23,920
ability in your own backyard to have
that source of power would help

716
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:29,679
regulate, um, uh, power flow and power
supply, uh, and and potentially help

717
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:34,480
with preventing, uh, a blackout or or
brown out, but I couldn't guarantee that

718
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:40,799
the facility itself would um, be able
to, you know, on its own prevent a major

719
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:44,080
issue or disruption with the grid at
large. All

720
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:53,040
right. If I can add
just separate the transmission lines if

721
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:59,440
they're broken through the weather
batteries won't help anybody help us

722
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:03,040
wire back in. So that part of it can't
help but but the rest of it you talked

723
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:11,960
about
browns and all kinds of

724
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:11,960
those things regional will be good.

725
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,839
But it won't work as a backup.

726
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:28,560
» Well, uh, no. But
>> so I mean getting into sort of the

727
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:34,080
concept of the grid and how does, uh,
energy get generated and then consumed.

728
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:40,239
So one particular battery energy storage
project as a 100 megawatt facility like

729
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:47,120
us um you know that would be enough
electricity to power

730
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:52,560
um you know thousands of homes but uh
but it it it couldn't offset a major

731
01:09:49,759 --> 01:10:01,760
grid disruption that um you know to to
Bruce's point if a major 500 KV or or uh

732
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:10,120
325 KV line went down that is a a much
broader and bigger issue than our

733
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:10,120
project could uh help mitigate.

734
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:19,120
» Okay. And um yeah, where does the power
come to charge these batteries? Where

735
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,280
did that come from? You got to charge
battery. How do you how do you charge

736
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:27,199
your battery?
>> Yeah. So, the power comes uh from any

737
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:31,600
number of sources that are uh generating
electricity at the specific time the

738
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:34,800
battery is charging. So it's energy
agnostic. It could be from wind. It

739
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:41,280
could be from solar. It could be from
coal. Could be from natural gas. We just

740
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:45,760
absorb the excess power.
If BT

741
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:50,719
uses all our power, you'll get to charge
your batteries basically. Uh yes, that's

742
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:55,199
right.
So who's who's

743
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:59,280
cross the road?
I just

744
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:01,600
need to power.
>> Well, that's a complicated answer, but

745
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,040
yes.
>> Yeah. You're going to have a big wire

746
01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:08,000
from their big wire go your battery and
you're going to charge it and

747
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:14,320
everybody's power is on it.
>> Yeah.

748
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:20,199
» How much acreage is this battery storage
facility going to be located?

749
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,199
» Uh roughly 10 acres.

750
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:27,600
» Okay. The actual footprint of the
facility would be smaller than that. is

751
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:33,520
probably about eight. But um our our
lease area from our land land owner is

752
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:43,360
about 10 acres. Um and our land owner,
just uh for context, he owns about 134

753
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:49,760
acres there. Um and so 116 of that will
remain a perpetual farmland conservation

754
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:57,360
unit. Um and so the balance of the
property will be protected. Um and this

755
01:11:53,360 --> 01:12:01,840
little 10acre uh set aside will enable
uh him to keep the property in his

756
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:05,920
in his family.
>> How many batteries are included in this

757
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:13,840
project?
>> 132 at full buildout. 110 at initial. Uh

758
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:20,880
so um just like your phone battery
starts to lose its um ability to charge

759
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:26,640
over time uh we have to augment the
facility roughly every 5 years with a

760
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:36,280
couple additional batteries. So um so
it's 110 at initial and then 132 planned

761
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:36,280
at uh the end of the project life.

762
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,199
Yep.
>> Just real quick, I know back to the

763
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:48,480
safety issue and fire issue. We're 100%
relying on water to put these out or or

764
01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:52,640
to contain them. Is you see more and
more of these fire blankets? Some I

765
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:57,760
missed it. Are there any fire blankets
that would constantly drape over these

766
01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:02,000
batteries and if there were a fire that
they would drop on them and help slow it

767
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:06,960
down or contain it?
>> Uh I'm not aware of any uh type of

768
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:14,159
blanket technology. I think the the
recommended uh response from our our

769
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:20,640
fire uh protection engineers is to let
the let the battery burn. Um and the the

770
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:25,199
water is there to uh help cool any
adjacent uh containers so that it

771
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:33,120
doesn't spread. Um which has not
happened uh uh at any any facility uh to

772
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:40,320
date. Um so so really the objective
would be to isolate that container, let

773
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:48,640
it burn. Uh would take you know roughly
um 20 hours or so for it to probably uh

774
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:54,400
fully extinguish um and uh and then just
keep the the adjacent batteries cool.

775
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:59,440
» Thank you.
>> Yes.

776
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:06,560
Um can we expect in the event of a
unfortunate fire can we also expect

777
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:15,280
toxic fumes to be circulating in the air
and what measures would counter that?

778
01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:20,800
» Yes. So uh we prepared a plume study uh
which evaluated uh a worst case

779
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:29,120
situation where all of the modules uh
contained within one of the containers

780
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:34,880
were on fire. Um and uh we worked with
uh Chief Rockwell and his consultants at

781
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:40,159
Stan uh to evaluate what the
constituents are um that would be

782
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:46,800
generated and how far those would uh
would travel off the site. Um

783
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,800
maybe you can help me out. I don't have
the final number but right off the top

784
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:56,440
my head. Yeah. So, so it's obviously
weather depending and storing, but the

785
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:56,440
biggest

786
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:04,320
consistency of the direction and the
evacuation distances with the setbacks

787
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,440
were all modeled in the planning
commission and talked in depth. So, this

788
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:13,920
is talk a little while around this.
Suffice it to say that it has been

789
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:19,600
studied. It has been looked at. Um
obviously anytime bring any industry

790
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:24,320
into a into a residential area have
impacts but I'm confident to say with

791
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:30,239
what we looked at there would be enough
time to either shelter through place or

792
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:34,400
evacuate and the expectation is that um
the way the designs are we don't have

793
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:40,640
the final design because they don't have
their permit and technology changes

794
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:44,800
daily that we're comfortable that with
the added water and some of the

795
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:48,640
consensus that they made for wells that
uh the supervisor talked about would

796
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:56,000
allocate some protection against the
residents and as also believe that this

797
01:15:51,840 --> 01:16:00,640
is a relatively rural area with 165
acres. So a lot of that you're asking me

798
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:04,080
can it hit a a resident? Yes, but it
depends on the wind conditions

799
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:10,159
everything
would have alignment and then you're

800
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:16,120
looking at possible evacuation depending
what the meters would tell us. We would

801
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:16,120
do real time on

802
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:25,360
» um Brian if you want to uh you know one
of the things that I had asked is if you

803
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:32,800
want to just elaborate a little bit
about on site during the day like who's

804
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,600
monitoring this or was going to monitor
it

805
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:40,320
if you want to talk a little bit about
that.

806
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:44,960
» Yes. So the facility is uh remotely
monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a

807
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:53,199
week. Um
and additionally we would have uh staff

808
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:57,199
on site uh one plant operator um who
would be there during traditional

809
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:04,320
business hours say 8 to 5 Monday through
Friday. Um and uh supplementing that we

810
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:12,000
probably have technicians. Um you can
imagine a specialist being on site to do

811
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:18,800
some specific work um maybe two or three
um twice a week. Uh but but it would be

812
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:22,960
continuously there would be a plant
manager on site Monday through Friday

813
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:32,719
and then additionally uh remotely
monitored um to the uh get information

814
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:40,159
um collection system that uh uh trans
transponds information um like frequency

815
01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:47,360
uh temperature uh gas data information.
Um so someone is is sitting at a

816
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:54,080
computer um at a at a remote location
monitoring that to make sure you know uh

817
01:17:50,400 --> 01:18:00,320
that the facility is is operating within
uh normal limits and uh can dispatch you

818
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:06,239
know additional um assistance if if
something looks off to come out and uh

819
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:10,640
do the emergency type work.
Okay.

820
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:15,760
Question. Um, how many of these sites
are around the country for your that you

821
01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:21,600
control and key capture?
>> Yeah, Key Capture operates uh 11

822
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:26,239
projects in Texas and three in New York.
Um, those are all operating facilities.

823
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:33,840
We have a number of projects also in
development stage. Um uh so similar to

824
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:38,560
here in Michigan um we have another
project in Michigan that just uh

825
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:47,360
recently got an approval and uh another
one that's in active active as well.

826
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:53,920
D if I could um I'm going to Seline
Township in October to look at their

827
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:58,560
battery storage.
So is it your key cash? No, it's a

828
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,440
different company, but still battery the
same.

829
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:05,520
» Yes.
>> BSS storage. So that's supposed to be

830
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:09,120
operational. We need this month and in
October we're supposed to get a tour. So

831
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:13,120
we're going to have one in Washington
County in your backyard. So if you're

832
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:21,840
interested in there, we can probably set
you up with the one lot closer.

833
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:26,960
» Okay. If no more questions. Yes. Um, as
far as like breadth of the I'll call it

834
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:31,280
a plant for lack of a better word, is
there a certain threshold that requires

835
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:36,080
like an on-site fire facility or water
truck something and like all that you

836
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:39,440
have in Texas New York so on and so
forth?

837
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:45,199
» No. uh there's no no specific water
requirement and in fact uh you know the

838
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:53,199
recommendation again is is not to fight
any uh any fire associated with a

839
01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:58,000
battery incident um with water.
So on the rare occasion as Supervisor

840
01:19:55,679 --> 01:20:03,840
Whitaker mentioned, the Cold Water
Township uh happened to have hydrants

841
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:10,000
nearby and so that was you know uh
permitted a couple years ago and um and

842
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:15,440
so they made use of that proximity. But
um it having water on site I think is

843
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:23,760
something that makes people feel better
but it is not a requirement or um

844
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:28,640
you know something that I think actually
you know probably benefits that much.

845
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:32,960
» So basically like it having someone
there regardless of water whatever the

846
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:37,440
the
um solution would be it's just going to

847
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,600
burn it doesn't matter.
>> Yes.

848
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:43,440
» Okay.
And the fire chief is going to make the

849
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:46,880
the decision and part of the one
condition we didn't mention is that the

850
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:51,520
developer works with the chief to create
a emergency operations plan so that he's

851
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:57,159
got it all locked up and provide any
training that the department needs. Um

852
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,159
but it's a case

853
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:06,640
district I believe
we do have fire blankets around those

854
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:13,360
now they're more practical vehicle
been some recent studies out of UL

855
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:18,000
so that has limited use more for
exposure protection and that's probably

856
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:23,760
what we use more than that practical the
goal is is to minimize you limit it to

857
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:28,400
that one device They protect all the
other devices to prevent them from

858
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:33,320
» going into a thermal because once that
device is gone, they're writing it off

859
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,320
themselves.

860
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:42,560
» Okay. Uh, any other questions?
So, we do have a motion on the table. Do

861
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:45,120
we have a second on this?
>> Yes.

862
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:50,280
» Could you clarify the motion? Cuz when
you read the motion, you said approve or

863
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,280
deny.

864
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:57,719
» Just clarify it. So, we're we're making
a motion to approve.

865
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,719
» Okay.

866
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:07,840
All
>> Daniel Seconds and we'll need a roll

867
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:13,360
call vote. Mr. Winsel.
>> All right. We have um a roll call vote.

868
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:16,360
John Daniel.
>> Yes.

869
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,239
Luca,
>> yes.

870
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,760
» Alo,
>> yes.

871
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,840
three. Yes.
>> Trent,

872
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:30,800
» yes.
>> Winsley, yes. And

873
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:36,080
» yes.
>> So, uh, I'd like to, um, just make a

874
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:41,120
little comment about Key Capture and the
folks that are here tonight. Um, first

875
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:44,639
of all, I has it been three has it been
three years since we've been dealing

876
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:48,800
with this close to it.
>> Yeah. So, and I have to tell you that

877
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,679
when you first came in here, and I think
we talked a little bit about this, but I

878
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:56,320
want the public to know, make this
public record, that

879
01:22:53,040 --> 01:23:00,639
» I was one for alls, totally against it.
And um just maybe the way I don't know

880
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:04,480
if you had some other people come in
here, the way they handled it, I was at

881
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:08,159
the planning commission meeting and
we're just ready to say, "Hey, we'll

882
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:12,880
take us on." Now, we know the state has
taken the rights away from local

883
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:19,280
jurisdiction and we uh formed an
ordinance. um everything went that way,

884
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:23,679
but we were determined to say you guys
need to go away. We tried to figure out

885
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:29,600
different location and you worked with
us. Um and again, people don't

886
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:34,639
understand that what the township would
lose on this would be um

887
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:38,960
you know, we would basically get
nothing. The state's taking it out of

888
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:46,880
our hands and basically we have uh
really some good firming that they're

889
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:51,199
proposing to put in. Um uh we created or
negotiated a host agreement. It's

890
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:58,560
100,000 a year and I want to say the
grants are um that are be is a half a

891
01:23:55,199 --> 01:24:06,000
million or is it's
about half a million dollars uh that

892
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:11,440
will be uh the township will receive. So
again, and the residents that live close

893
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:15,600
by, um I mean not they're quite a ways
from it, but every one of them have come

894
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:20,400
in. I want to thank our planning
commission. They went through this thing

895
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:25,040
uh night and day. people have done a
great job and your company has done a

896
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:30,320
great job and talking to the residents
and giving them as much information and

897
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:36,480
uh so I couldn't ask for better people
to help uh uh get our community

898
01:24:33,679 --> 01:24:41,280
comfortable with this and uh to see the
outcome. I I think it's uh it's a great

899
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:45,840
thing. So we want to thank you and we're
look forward for great uh uh partners

900
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:50,880
and maybe give us more money down the
road.

901
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:56,960
No, we do. We do appreciate it. So,
thank you. Um, all right. So, we're uh

902
01:24:55,440 --> 01:25:00,000
done with that and we got the
financials. We're down to reports. Chief

903
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:04,000
Rock,
>> thank you, Mr. Supervisor. Just uh real

904
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:09,040
briefly, it's been a long meeting. Uh
obviously, we had the storms over the

905
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:13,199
holidays. Uh um we had a number of
residents, kind of isolated residents

906
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:17,120
that got wires down. You'll notice a
couple wires down, which fires in the

907
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:25,040
area. the wires. There's not a lot we
can do. Um so, um just stay away 20 ft

908
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:27,840
and get those into DC.
I also want to thank the road

909
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:31,040
commission. A lot of times you guys
don't see the road commissions. They're

910
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:35,199
out there pulling a lot of these big
trees off the roads and stuff like that

911
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:39,440
today, especially our rural roads with
um some of them very lined with trees,

912
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:43,120
the dirt roads. So, uh they certainly we
certainly with uh our firefighters cut

913
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:47,520
smaller trees, but they can come up with
big uh big equipment. We had one on sale

914
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:52,159
road that um they just uh helped pull
down and make sure the roads open up

915
01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:55,360
quickly and safely. So um thank the road
commission. A lot of times we you you

916
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:01,679
don't really see all the work that they
do. So they did a great job. Um our

917
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:06,239
brush 96 is finally labeled, marked,
lighted. The only thing we have yet to

918
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:11,760
put in there is the uh watermission
package and it'll be fully functional.

919
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:16,000
So it's it's about 90% there. Um, it's
been a journey to say the least, but uh,

920
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:20,360
thank you board and uh, soon as it's all
done, I'll bring it by

921
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:26,639
over it. Mr. Paris loves it, so I don't
know if he'll get it out of his hands,

922
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:30,800
but
>> thank you for that support. All right,

923
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:35,280
chief. Thank you.
>> Okay, down to just some board

924
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:40,880
discussion. So, um, heard Jay mention
about the road. So, I hate to inform

925
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:46,800
everybody, but the the road is not done
right. And um I can't believe that uh

926
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:53,679
we're going after all the meetings that
we have had with uh the contractor and

927
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:58,320
uh and sure they're devastated about it.
But if you if you uh ever get you're

928
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:04,800
driving through the hamlet, if you go
down by the Bible church there and just

929
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:10,719
park on the north side and look on the
as people are coming to the west, you'll

930
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:16,480
see the road just uh dipping. I mean,
it's a lot better than it was, but it's

931
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:20,080
not right. And I I I just we I I don't
think we can live with that. And I think

932
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:25,120
we've got to get this thing done right.
And so, we had uh the road commission

933
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:29,120
out there. We've had our engineers out
there and uh they've all said, so

934
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:34,320
they're doing some testing on the ground
seeing why is it doing what it's doing

935
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:39,360
or uh because we have pictures.
Thankfully, we took pictures uh before

936
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:44,639
and after and the road was a lot better
than it is now. I mean, it uh especially

937
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:51,120
that end. So, what I'm what we're
looking at is doing um um we're at least

938
01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:56,320
coming up to Salem Road going west. So,
it's about 500 ft. We're thinking that

939
01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:01,440
that just needs to be grinded out again
and redone. So, I hate to be the spirit.

940
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:05,840
I mean, some of the neighbors are not
going to be happy cuz we, you know, you

941
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:10,639
got to have the road shut down a little
bit. People go to work early in the

942
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:15,280
morning. So, anyway, it's um we're just
doing the best best we can on it, but we

943
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:22,080
want to get it right. U the other thing
if you notice coming in tonight, um Dick

944
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:26,560
Dickerson Street here has been finally
we've got the new curbing alongside

945
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:33,600
there and now there's going to be brick
that's going to be put in. Um It's about

946
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:36,159
uh is it 7 and 1/2 ft? Is it? I can't
remember.

947
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:40,719
» 8
foot six on both sides of the road going

948
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:46,960
down to the driveways down here. That
will improve this road here. You can see

949
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:52,159
we've got the new drains in there now.
So, now we're getting quotes on uh the

950
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:57,199
more brick. There's a lot of brick going
in. We're going to re-brick uh in front

951
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:01,840
of the Roroff's house there, that spot
there that needs to be done to complete

952
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:06,239
it. Uh and then we cut this little angle
off in front of the general store. Made

953
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:12,400
that one. So that that's been taken out
that's going to be replaced. And what

954
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:17,440
else are we doing? We got a few other
few other projects. So, uh this new

955
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,280
brick that's coming in that we're doing
is not into the budget. So, we're

956
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:26,639
getting quotes on that now. and we're
going to uh finally get this thing done

957
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:33,280
behind us. So, and then we're, like I
said, uh we'll know more about when

958
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:38,560
they're going to redo do the road.
Um so, that's about that. As far as the

959
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:43,280
USD, no new news. We don't have any
updates. Of course, they're doing the

960
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:47,679
engineering still on that. So, um, we're
just waiting for them to get back to us

961
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:53,760
and Eagle to agree with some of the
proposal of that 11 mile pipe that's

962
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:58,639
going to be going in um through
Plymouth, Canton, and Van Beer and

963
01:29:55,679 --> 01:30:03,440
Township. Um,
what else?

964
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:09,600
Any other questions? Any questions about
the any projects going on or concerns,

965
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:14,080
please?
Yes. Thank you.

966
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:18,400
Um I I would just like to make a
comment. Yeah. I'm delighted that Key

967
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:25,120
Capture and Salem Township have been
able to work together on this project

968
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:30,880
and that is all, you know, pathetic.
But it's just a reminder that the reason

969
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:37,199
that this three-year negotiation had to
take place is because our local

970
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:41,600
townships lost their authority to manage
themselves.

971
01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:45,600
And that is another consequence of
elections. So elections have

972
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:52,400
consequences.
Be pay attention. Know who you're voting

973
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:55,679
for and why you're voting because it
affects all of us on a dayto-day. Thank

974
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:01,920
you.
>> Okay.

975
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:07,360
» All right. So um another um
uh before we go to public comment before

976
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:12,320
we close uh I got an announcement. So,
our

977
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:19,480
ex uh treasurer, Mr. Dale Convers, the
back here is getting married. You want

978
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:19,480
to stand up, Dale? You're

979
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:29,199
for many years. Him and I were uh
running uh together years ago and uh I

980
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:34,639
don't know how many years you've been
gone from us here, but uh you left me

981
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:39,120
and now, you know, I'm I'm still stuck
here. So,

982
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:44,560
I appreciate the congratulations.
>> Congratulations. Be praying for you too.

983
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:49,199
And I happen to know uh the gal you're
marrying, so she's a good gal. So

984
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:54,080
hopefully everything goes fine.
Congratulations.

985
01:31:51,679 --> 01:32:03,480
All right. Um
All right. Public comment. Anybody else?

986
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,480
If not, uh

987
01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:09,280
» sorry, Mr. Just a quick question. We
used to get reports from the Washington

988
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:11,280
County Sheriff.
>> Yes.

989
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,280
» Kind of curious what's going on.
>> I just uh got one.

990
01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:16,639
» Okay.
>> So, they're putting a new form. This is

991
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:21,679
Northfield Township,
>> right?

992
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:24,880
» And uh I just got one. Um
and then what we're going to do is print

993
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,840
them and then everybody will get it.
We'll try to get it in the board packet

994
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:31,440
before the
>> before the meeting. But we had like 222

995
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:34,480
calls last month.
>> Really?

996
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:43,040
ICO everywhere.
>> Yeah. And uh we uh and then uh I get a

997
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:48,800
few call few calls from the truckers and
uh so they're not uh real happy with

998
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:53,280
that. But what we did is just so you
know cuz I don't want it. It's on social

999
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:58,960
media and everybody talks about it. I
don't I'm not on social media but other

1000
01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:03,520
people send it and it's just ridiculous.
and and basically the the people know

1001
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:09,120
it. So what we did is we sent a letter
out to all of our trucking companies on

1002
01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:15,440
Chub Road and let them know that enough
is enough. You know, we've been trying

1003
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:20,400
to let them know we really haven't had u
the enforcement because I can't stop

1004
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:26,400
trucks and I've chased the trucks and
got in trouble for doing it. But it's

1005
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:32,960
it's uh you get so aggravated and I know
the people are aggravated. People get

1006
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:37,600
very um upset about it and and once
again not to

1007
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:42,159
keep giving Dave I don't want to get you
know we just want money Dave on you. We

1008
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:47,679
don't want you to pay that.
No, but Dave, uh, Landfill, I mean, the

1009
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:55,679
the stretch between, uh, Napier Road,
between u, uh, North Territorial and

1010
01:33:51,600 --> 01:34:01,199
Five Mile, it's like I it it is it is
just the people are so happy because I

1011
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:05,280
can they can text me, I let Dave know,
he catches them at the scales are going

1012
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:08,880
in there and they just like they got
people are watching. So, we got a

1013
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:13,440
communication and it's helping people
over there to settle down and they got

1014
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:17,280
other streets. So, we still got the same
problem, but now they're enforcing it

1015
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:22,000
and people are calling and saying, "Hey,
can you help us out?" Well, you've been

1016
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:28,560
warned. You've got letters on it and so
we have to enforce it. So, just so you

1017
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:33,199
know. So, watch your speed and um any
other public comments before we close.

1018
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:36,400
All right. Thanks for being here
tonight. We got plenty of food. There's

1019
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:41,280
extra bags here if you want to take some
donuts home. Um, but we appreciate you

1020
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:45,520
being here. Sorry for a long meeting and
just really our meetings sometimes

1021
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,679
they're only a half hour. So, sorry for
the long