this conference will now be recorded
good afternoon
everyone I'd like to resume the city of
Salmon Arm regular council meeting of
Monday February the
10th like to begin by acknowledging that
we're Gathering here on the traditional
territory of the shet MC people with
whom we share these lands and where we
live and we work
together there was a tragedy in our
community this weekend
a very difficult
one a young man walking across a
lake fell through the
ice the dive team from Vancouver is
presently on a recovery Mission out in
the
lake we are thinking of his
family we're thinking of his
friends people surrounding
him the RCMP the search and
rescue fire department
personnel that were on hand for this
very difficult
situation it's unconscionable to
me losing a son in that
way so we will support in the best way
that we
can the families that are involved and I
know it touches the whole
Community special thanks to staff
sergeant Simon
Scott and his communication with the
city with our CAO with our human
resources personnel
here we'll update you um as we hear
here and hopefully um the recovery
Mission will be
successful and provide the family with
just any kind of uh of hope so I'm very
sorry to report
that we have a an agenda that's uh been
presented to us I'll accept accept a
motion to adopt that agenda councelor
canilla councelor Canon thank you all
those in
favor passes
unanimously counselor's disclosure of
interest if you have any disclosure of
interest on any of the regular council
meeting agenda items please indicate
so councelor canala please go ahead
item
9.3 item 9.3 thank
you in regards to the leas of my
employer with the cityne property that
we have our offices on Council you put
your down of
course I'm
back uh I'll repeat uh 9.3 Deputy um the
deputy corporate officer report
regarding the um lease agreement with
the the property that my employer is
using presently and 14.1 the
presentation with which I'm sad to miss
the samon arm Arts Center uh and art
gallery the my employer the FK music
Society works with um this organization
uh and partners and sponsors the wow
event so I'll be stepping up for that
thank you councelor
ganella any further disclosures from
counselors seeing none we'll go to
confirmation of minutes of the regular
council meeting of January the 27th I
would take virtual mover and seconder if
there are there councelor lavry thank
you for the move move of that
motion councelor Wallace Richman would
second any additions to dels to those
minutes see none I'll call a question
all those in
favor any business
arising thank you that passes
unanimously
we have three committee reports again
counselors we don't need to move the
minutes but I will go through each one
of them and give you time if you wish to
bring forward any item first 7.1 is the
social impact advisory committee meeting
minutes of January the 24th for your
information second set is the Greenways
liaison committee meeting minutes of
January the 23rd
yes councelor labry as chair of that
committee go ahead yeah thanks your
worship I just uh I won't get into in
detail but there's the a long list of uh
spreadsheets and tables of uh work
completed in 2024 what's on the 2025
project update uh maintenance budget
essentially good news all around uh
including developments uh moving forward
uh legal developments moving forward
permitting uh work on with the school
district as well so all good there um I
just wanted to highlight besides when
you look at those spreadsheets and uh
followed out it's there's money that's
put in by
Partners incline stuff that's donated
and the total picture is leveraged
funding going forward to actually do
things um part of that Leverage is in
kind funding and I would just like to
note that uh in kind work from Brown
Johnson uh it's absolutely amazing and
helps the city move forward in in their
Trails as well as mrdt
contributions uh because mrdt recognizes
that our trail system or connectivity is
uh uh an attraction for tourism as well
is a great thing to do so I'll just
leave it there um but just to point out
that uh um that in kind stuff
the contributions are they come from all
over the community thank
you thank you councelor labry councelor
ganella did you wish to speak to those
minutes thank you worship um I'd like to
speak to the community Heritage
committee reports okay let's go to that
one that's 7.3 yes please yes thank you
um that we're going into the month of
February and at the end of the month we
have Heritage week and the meeting on
the 24th we're hoping to announce the
Heritage uh a winners as we do annually
during a regular council meeting great
thank you look forward to that thank
you any other business arising from
those
minutes okay we'll go to uh item eight
the Columbia Sho shop Regional District
update councelor Flynn if you have
something to share thank you thank you
we don't have a written report because
the board meeting is next Thursday but I
think it's next Thursday but um the
budget Committee of the whole meeting
was on January 30th that was budget one
kind of like what we're doing on
Wednesday budget one uh staff based on
discussion and direction from uh the
directors has taken budget one back and
is working on it um I don't know if uh
director labry had planned to provide
many details um I think it might be
better to wait for budget too but due to
some of the decisions we've made and
have been made uh there will be a
decrease in our requisition overall um
but the uh biggest area once again is
reserves for closures of
landfills and it's a significant
unfunded
liability it's very deep conversation
and director lavry and I talked about
whether we should invite
um Ben Van Nostrand present something to
Council on some of the details about
what landfill closures means so I will
economically and all of those things so
there is a solid waste review program
review and strategic plan review going
on it's almost as detailed if not as
detailed as our ocp review um and there
is a committee working on that but um
I'm just trying to gauge the desire of
council to hear about our biggest cost
item that we pay for at the csrd and to
get information from Mr Vin ostrand or
do you trust your two
directors I could comment on that uh
councelor Flynn I absolutely trust our
directors however I would like Mr van
nostran to come and talk to
us I want to understand why the
that replacement budget is so aggressive
I mean the jump in this year's csrd
requisition on that budget line is
enormous and uh I would like to
understand it better so if Mr van
nostran is able to come and speak to us
I think it would be good for all of
council to hear it firsthand okay thank
you and I'm glad to hear your trust of
your two directors or counselors is not
predicated on the budget or Solid Waste
but um do you think we would want to try
to get him here for the planning meeting
next
Tuesday um I'll leave that between you
and the CFO or CEO um for a later
discussion okay thank you councelor
lavry thanks your worship and thanks to
councelor Finn for bringing this up um
I'm not sure when is best for uh for Ben
to come I think that again the final
vote on the budget will not be until
March uh the next committee that hold is
the end of February so there is a bit of
time there just as's a preview and the
Regional District board is having this
discussion there is no doubt that this
is a significantly
underfunded
um line item based on changing
expectations from the province of best
practice for closing landfills and we're
in this situation
because people are including myself of
everything we throw
away and nobody's paid a lot of
attention not to the day-to-day
operations but the closure of it so the
in the you're right your worship
significant increases over the next five
years projected
out additional increases every year
which are not even going to scratch the
surface of getting to even a portion of
the reserve needed the uh discussion at
the regional district table has been uh
and there trade-offs no matter what you
do if you up the fees for those who are
dumping that discourages people to dump
illegally so it's a of it's an alive
vibrant conversation I think Ben can
talk about those options um I think that
uh I'd leave it to uh councelor Flynn
the vice chair to work that out I don't
think we personally I don't think we
need it right away um it's going to be
part of the
requisition um and it it' be I think it'
be highly informative for this table to
have their their heads around the
absolute dilemma of how to even
partially fund this reserve for what's
anticipated down the line so uh I'd
encourage us to do it thank you great
thank you councelor labry councelor
Flynn one more comment yeah just a quick
consensus does do we feel it would be a
better thing to do at a planning meeting
or a council meeting because that'll
help me and I do agree with councelor
lavry it's not necessarily as urgent as
next Tuesday because the next this
budget two for csrd is at the end of
February and the approval of the budget
is March um so and I do want to thank in
advance councelor lingren who's going to
attend budget two session because of my
absence so thank you um chief
administrative officer um that would fit
into a planning meeting sometime uh um
when councelor Flynn and yourself thinks
that it might fit would that be okay to
do it that way absolutely your worship
thank you very much thank
you okay let's move forward then um to
staff reports uh 9.1 as the Chief
Financial Officer parcel tax roll over
roll review panel there is a motion if I
can have a mover into second or it's to
set a date for that thank you councelor
lingren councelor ganella I'll ask our
Chief Financial Officer if he wishes to
um say more than uh the motion describes
there uh Drew your your worship it's
just the standard uh personal tax to
authenticate the role that happens every
year as described in the motion if
there's any questions I'm available
great thank you councel has any
questions around that
motion okay I'll call the question all
those in favor
councelor Wallace Richmond I'm just
waiting for your vote there it is thank
you that passes unanimously we'll go to
9.2 chief administrative officer ubcm
and silga meeting
expenses your worship my apologies there
is one minor correction for this motion
okay um instead of travel to ubcm and
silga it is ubcm and
fcm yeah thank you
um councelor Flynn you're willing to
move that motion I am second councelor
ganella thank you chief administrative
officer speaking to the
motion thank you worship um this is
intended just to allow staff to make
travel Arrangements on behalf of
councelor Wallace Richmond and then seek
reimbursement from ubcm and fcm there is
no cost to the city the city does
um up front pay for the room but seeks
reimbursement so there is no um no net
impact to the city thank you questions
or comments from Council councelor Canon
thank you just a quick question um
looking at this this is for the travel
arrangements and is there pdms for that
are in here too that are administrated
through ubcm and fcm the chief
administrative officer
my apologies your worship I didn't hear
the end of what um councelor Canon said
go go ahead councelor Canon if you want
to repeat the question does this include
uh pums that
are that councelor Wallace richm would
get through ubcm and
fcm chief administrative officer through
your worship no this is just for the
accommodation piece so just travel and
hotels just the hotel okay and then uh
the city seeks reimbursement so the
executive assistant will book the room
and and then we'll put in the um
submission for the
claim okay can I just I just have one
more question yeah go ahead no so I know
so this is the travel Arrangement so
when councelor Wallace Richmond goes to
ubcm and fcm in her positions that she
holds does she get per DMs
then from the city and only the city or
does she get it from those
groups I see councelor Wallace Richmond
is willing to comment as well so can I
go your yeah councelor Wallace Richmond
please go ahead uh thank you your
worship I appreciate the work the staff
does to help me with these bookings
often these uh meetings are organized
months in
advance um and
many meetings being organized months in
advance means quite a few bookings and
um their help is much appreciated the
ubcm board pays its
own uh per DMS and reimburses any travel
the city's role in ubcm is strictly to
book the hotel room ahead of time and
then seek reimbursement directly from
ubcm for fcm there is a small
communities travel fund uh my
understanding is that fund pays for
travel and accommodation for any upcm
board meeting uh but not fcm
convention um and ubcm doesn't pay for
my convention time either so there are
uh there's about uh I would say up to
five days of per dm with fcm work maybe
a few more that are covered by the city
my understanding is the small Community
Fund may not actually cover that but I'm
I'm I'm not aware of the specific detail
of the only that I can only use the
small communities fund for fcm travel
and accommodation for board meetings and
nothing
else y thank you councelor Canada do you
have any any other questions or comments
you want to
make so I so this motion is for ubcm and
fcm not silga and so my understanding is
through you your worship to counselor
Wallace Richmond you only get you get
the pums when you're there through the
city of Salmon
Arm correct only for let's just let's
just go back to the motion so the motion
is to have staff manage the
accommodation Arrangements in advance
for ubcm and fcm that's the motion that
we're talking about right now so if
there's further questions outside that
motion certainly we could handle it but
let's handle a motion first so councelor
do you have further comments around the
motion piece or would or would would
that information affect your vote on the
motion no it won't I would just reading
the background and trying to get my head
wrapped around exactly what it all means
so I'll ask later your worship okay
thank you other speakers to the motion
councelor Flynn speaking to the motion I
will vote in support it's a zero impact
to the community it provides the
community with value and I guess we
shouldn't say there's no cost because
there's the staff time to do it but
that's minimal so I will vote in support
of the motion and if we discuss the
other issue further I will comment on
that okay thank you yeah I will allow a
discussion after this motion if uh a
councelor wishes to bring it up um
councelor Ling speaking to the motion
yeah is there a cost savings if the city
does the booking rather than councelor
Wallace Richmond booking her own
accommodation chief administrative
officer three your worship uh the city
doesn't have any preferential rates but
it is um an assistance to councelor well
searchman due to the fact that it is
time consuming to make these
arrangements and there's lots of them so
we have administrative staff that we can
help out with that okay
thanks are there any other speakers to
the
motion seean I'll call a question all
those in favor
that passes unanimously councelor Canon
can I come back to you now if you have
further questions around the report if
you just press your button and I'll get
your mic on for you yeah it was just I
was just
curious if counselor Wallace Richman
gets paid per
DMS through
fcm or the
city and also for ubcm if she gets pums
paid through ubcm or the city daily pums
and then while we have the typo up there
I was curious about silga also if they
pay per Dums when she attends in
official capacity just curious got you
councelor Wallace Richman can I pass the
microphone over to you once more yes of
course uh thank you important that we
understand how this works I receive a
prum for every day I'm away uh
on behalf of as an elected uh sound
armed counselor on behalf of silga ubcm
and fcm silga
pays uh its per DMS directly to its
directors ubcm pays its per DMS directly
to its directors and
fcm uh fcm does not pay its directors to
attend meetings but the province of BC
through ubcm has set up a small
communities travel fund specifically to
allow for small communities to be
represented at the fcm board and any
expense related to my time there on at a
board meeting uh travel accommodation
and and per DMS as I understand it is
reimbursed to uh the city from the fcm
small communities travel fund run
through ubcm it's very complicated but
it was a wise decision of ubcm to make
sure that small communities could also
play a role on that uh at that National
table and I'm grateful for uh for that
fund's existence I do need specific
Clarity around whether they
reimburse
um P DMS uh but because I don't process
the uh the reimbursements I I I wouldn't
be able to tell you I do charged I do um
submit them though counc Canon do you
have further query there so you submit
your PDM
to whichever affiliation you're with so
it has zero cost to the city for pdms I
didn't realize that I thought maybe the
city paid the prum at at most it would
be some it would be fcm
pums but fcm is only two meetings a year
well that's great because it's a good
value value having you representing
those those boards so awesome thank you
thank you for the clarification C Flyn
did you want to speak I was just going
to clarify ubcm but because I sat on
that through being president of silga
and all those pdms are paid separately
the fcm one is confusing and has been a
discussion point at the csrd table um
because there's a chance that there
might be a pum or two days in a year
charged to the csrd when director Martin
was on
fcm if we have to deal with that I think
we should because I fully would support
it thank you very much I think it was
just a matter of information so
appreciate the discussion there we will
go to
9.3 um councelor ganel I think you're
leaving for that one
okay so item
9.3 Deputy corporate officer is going to
speak about the lease of 5413 Street
Southwest seminar folk music Society
there is a motion um I'd like to get on
the floor if I could have a move in a
second councelor Canon would move and
councelor Flynn would second thank you
um I'll ask our Deputy um corporate
officer to speak to the
report thank you your worship the salar
folk music Society has been occupying
the building at 5413 Street Southwest
since
2015 they've been using it as the office
for um the folk music Society roots and
blues um they've made some significant
improvements to the building over the
years and they've expressed an interest
in continuing to occupy that spot and
have requested an additional five-year
lease at a nominal
rate thank you very much for that and
for the report counselors I'll open up
to you if you have any questions of Miss
Pont or comments she wish to
make seeing none I will call a question
all those in
favor that passes unanimously thank you
we can invite councelor ganella back in
I bet he thought we were going to be
longer than
that he was leaving for 20
minutes we work fast without you
councelor
ganella welcome back okay we will go to
item 94 director of engineering Public
Works climate resilient plan steering
committee there is a motion for
consideration I could have a mover and a
seconder councelor linger would move
that counc canel would second thank you
I'll ask our director of engineering and
Public Works to speak to the part thank
you worship so on January 13th of this
year Council approved the development of
the climate action resiliency plan and
in accordance with the RFP the in
preparation of the CRP requires the
formation of a climate resiliency
steering committee to provide local
expertise guidance strategic Direction
um
for the development and support and
influence its implementation within the
community the attached terms of
reference are outline the Mandate scope
of the members of this steering
committee which staff are is proposing
to consist of 22 members formed from a
combination of external organizations
City committees and citizens at
large um Alternatives and implications
should Council not choose to form this
climate resiliency steering committee
staff would will proceed with the
development of a working group uh made
up of City staff csrd staff and in
consultation with First Nation
Representatives um the outcomes would
then be forwarded to these organizations
uh for review and feedback um ultimately
Staff feel that this is a uh not the
best way to go about it um however that
is an option um and communication upon
Council approval of formation of this
steering committee staff would contact
organizations uh proposed in the terms
of reference to request participation
and in nominating members and staff will
also advertise for the recruitment of
three um citizens at large um this
resulting list uh will be reported back
to council for formal review and
appointments great thank you very much
um the director of engineeri and public
works councelors I'll open it up to you
to comments or questions councelor
lingren
thanks your worship um yeah I'm uh um in
principle uh in favor of having a
steering committee Vernon has had a
and uh climate ambassadors since they
instituted their plan A couple of years
ago and I think that that's helped it be
very successful
I'm uh curious about the terms of
reference um the city doesn't seem to
have a seat on the steering committee is
that just implied that somebody from the
city would chair it or how does that
work thank you I I see under the
procedures that it says the crpc will be
chaired by the consultant um but I pass
your question on to the director of
engineering and Public Works City it
would be chaired by the consultant and
there would be City staff attending the
meetings um but really we're looking for
feedback from this committee and then
there's still a a working committee made
up of the csrd staff and as well as
First Nation so there is a working
committee as well good councelor lingam
please continue yeah so would the city
have a voice but no
vote uh if motions were to come forward
from this steering committee a director
of engineer and Public Works your
worship um this this steering committee
is is essentially a it's not for
creating content is for review and so
any comments would go back to the
working committee and be reviewed with
the cons consultant again and then come
forward to council if anything was
required okay that makes sense um just
one uh typo I think and it's probably a
um anyway just an oversight in the terms
of reference the Salmon Arm Bay nature
enhancement Society we're missing the
word enhancement
so thank you thank you for that uh
councelor lingren counselor lavy please
go
ahead yeah thanks your thanks the staff
uh good good good things happen to those
who wait and it's great to see this uh
being here in a timely matter I um I
would just emphasize the nature of a
steering committee I think you worship
have already done it we've seen the role
of a steering committee and in the ocp
process it's uh it it's to ensure that
the work that's being done is within the
guidelines of uh the input that's there
I have one question your worship through
you to staff and that's about membership
um I don't
see and 22 members is a pretty healthy
table um I don't
see membership from First Nations
indigenous
community and I know that on the uh
active Transportation task force we were
21e worship maybe at a at a at a time um
we did send out invitations sometimes
not all members could make it but um we
did have unless I've missed it but I I
don't see it on the list there and I
think it's uh I was going to say worth
considering but I think it's more than
worth considering I think the
invitations would need to go
out I'll pass that to the director of
engineering public works if he has any
comments um I appreciate the comments uh
in regards to the steering committee um
the working group would have uh First
Nations representation on that group as
well so we are working to try and find
out who would be available to attend the
working group meetings so but we will
consider the steering committee as
well thank you councelor lavry just
before I go to the next speaker did you
have anything else you'd like to share
or say yeah um no I I think
um thanks for that response
I I think it I would suggest it needs to
be more than considered I I would to
consider I think that the uh I think is
important to
issue uh a request along the same
process that uh is there um and uh to do
and and to have done that and then the
the determination of participation uh to
that invitation is then within uh other
communities thank you thank you
councelor Flynn please press your button
sorry thank you worship um on the last
page of the terms of reference it says
the C R PSC is unlikely to have any to
make any decisions as their main rol is
to provide advice and expertise for
consideration and improving the content
and they'll make its decision making by
consensus um where everything has to be
unanimously agreed to so I guess my
first comment was I can't imagine a 22
person
committee having to make unanimous
consensus
decisions um I also can't imagine adding
more people to the 22 person committee
so I guess I'm not really understanding
the difference and they're not making
decisions so I'm not really
understanding what the role of this
group is compared to the working group
because I wasn't intimately involved
with the ocp process so um I'm concerned
about the size of the committee I'm
concerned about the comment that it's
got to be consensus decision making
because that could be or unanimous could
be very difficult and might stifle good
conversation um
but I don't know what decisions they
will be making because it says they're
not a decision-making group so I've got
all kinds of questions if others feel
this is the way to go I support it but I
haven't had much success with 22 person
groups or
bigger what I can say to you councelor
Flynn is I can only talk about my
experience with the steering committee
and the official community plan and I
think it sort of parallels this and with
the same wording the steering committee
and our steering committee for the
official commune plan I kind of went
into it with um I wondered as well
because there it's a big committee
there's about 20 people on it but what I
can say is it worked extremely well um
and I anticipate that this will
too um and the reason it worked well was
because each of the members understood
what their role was and their role was
not to um bring their bias of content to
the official community plan but rather
to take in the information which is what
this group will do and make sure that
the information is reflected um that is
being considered by the working
committee so it's kind of they take the
information they make sure that what's
being said is reflected in the in
information that goes to the working
committee uh we also worked on a
consensus basis and consensus and
unanimous aren't quite parallel um there
was some give and take for sure on the
ocp steering committee but because
everyone understood what their role was
um as as it became apparent if I was the
only person out on on thinking that that
maybe shouldn't go in there the
consensus piece came about and you know
people would leave that and so there was
some give and take so it work there um I
know it's a lot of people on a committee
but it's hard to leave any of those
groups out so um that will be my comment
there okay and then for
clarity like the ocp which we play a
bigger role as Council I think but
nothing this committee doesn't make
decisions without it coming back to
council so I'll just ask the director of
engineering Public Works my understand
as the working committee would then
bring any any uh recommendations to
council you're correct your worship this
this is um the information the
discussion that comes back from the
steering committee would go through the
working group uh in consultation with
the consultant and then that would come
back to council okay thank you
councelor lingren um I'm gon to try this
button and see if it lights up your it
did okay oh it sorry press it again
councelor
lingren all right please go ahead thanks
um just a comment about the uh three
citizens at large it says that includes
one youth representative and one senior
representative and I would like to make
a motion to change that and then I'll
speak to that and my motion would be
that one includes a youth under 18 and
one person is under the age of
30 okay sorry I just want to understand
your um
your Amendment again I would like to
remove the piece that says that includes
one youth representative and one senior
representative and replace it with one
youth under 18 and one youth or one uh I
don't know what we call them young adult
under the age of 30 okay understand is
there a seconder to that
Amendment um if you want more
information you can second
it thank you seconded by councelor
ganella please speak to your Amendment
councelor lingren trying to follow the
process here um so it's my experience
from uh chairing and participating in
many of the Committees that the city is
involved in the nonprofits and
organizations around town that many many
of the people that have the time and
money and uh free time to uh participate
in these are well over the age of 60 and
it would be my assumption that we are
not going to have any problem getting
representation from senior citizens or
people over the age of 60 and I hesitate
to use senior citizens because that
includes me uh in that group um my
concern is that it's more difficult to
get representation from uh high school
students and people in their 20s and I
think that they have a very valuable
perspective that may not be represented
by any of these other groups in town and
I think it's really important that we
include their
voice thank you um further speakers to
the
amendment councelor ganella then
councelor Wallis
Richmond uh thank you for the um the
opportunity to speak on the amendment I
just want to have a question to
regarding the motion are we now leaving
out and one senior representative is
that's the intention yes the in Brackets
piece would be left out and instead it
would say that includes one under 18
person and one under 30 person I I sort
of in a way I have to uh reject that in
my own opinion is for the fact of a bit
of aism on that but I do I what I did
support was one under 18 specifying then
one under 30 I can totally live with but
in the sense of just showing a sense of
inclusion I have a problem with us
suddenly saying you removing that part
of the part that's a senior although we
do have a high frequency of involvement
I just think just as an optical I would
I have a problem with that thank you
councelor ganella um okay so councelor w
Richman you're not speaking on the
amendment councelor Flyn did you want to
speak on the amendment yeah okay please
go ahead I will not support the
amendment because I feel we are pigeon H
holding and assuming and I randomly
picking 30 why wouldn't it be under 40
because honestly the 30 to 40 age band
probably has similar thoughts so I feel
we should stay away from mentioning any
age except I agree a student of some age
is okay but if they're a 22y old
University student that should be fine
in my mind so I'm not going to support
the the amendment I feel it's too
specific um
and I don't think it needs to include
one senior either because a good chunk
of those people councelor lingren is
right about a good chunk of those
Representatives may be somewhat similar
to me with gray hair and some experience
so I'm fine with the way the terms of
reference are as they said thank you
councelor Flynn any other speakers to
the amendment councelor lingren I'll let
you close unless someone else wants to
speak to it councelor lingren go ahead
oh oh you pressed twice press again I
messed
up okay
don't touch those buttons councelor
lingren please go ahead um so I would
based on the feedback I would be willing
to change my Amendment so that it just
reads one student representative and
remove the senior representative okay
we're going to vote on this amendment
and then if you want to make a different
amendment that will be
fine do you wish to speak to the
Amendments on the floor right now I just
did well sort of okay uh any other
speakers to the amendment that is on the
floor
presently okay hearing none I will call
the question on the amendment that's on
the floor presently all those in
favor any
opposed okay that Amendment does not
pass with councelor lingren in favor the
rest opposed are there any further
discussions councelor lingren please go
ahead I'd like to make another attempt
at an amendment to remove the section
that says that includes one youth
representative and one senior
representative and replace it with
one do we want student or youth under 25
or one student I
think okay one student under 25 is that
what you'd like it to
say sure we'll try that and see what
happens is there a seconder to that
Amendment councelor Flynn will second
the amendment councelor lingren speaking
to the amendment yeah I I think that
we're going to have a a um adequate or
generous a generous uh smattering of
senior representation and I don't think
that we want to limit the citizens at
large to fill that role and so if we
include one youth uh specifically that
would be an a good perspective to bring
in and it's one that we often Overlook
and I think on climate change they have
a very unique perspective and uh we need
to be able to hear their
voice okay presently it says that
includes one youth representative and
one senior representative and your
replacing that with one student under 25
so my understanding of the amendment
councelor Flynn thank you worship I
seconded this amendment even though it
does say an age but it does say a
student and honestly if we only had one
student it was 26 that applied I'm
pretty sure we would be able to deal
with it so I do think a student whether
it's high school or early University
would provide a perspective that is
needed so I can support this thank you
councelor Flynn further speakers to the
amendment um councelor Wallace Richmond
did you want to speak to the amendment
yes this one please um I'm I'm sorry uh
we're gonna have to vote against this um
part of the role of the citizen as large
is is people might see themselves um as
not being involved in any particular
type of
organization um with a role to play um
in this particular steering committee so
I I I don't want to keep it too
prescriptive I
think we we would like to have a a young
person on the committee and we would
like to have um a senior on the
committee so we might give someone an
opportunity who hadn't otherwise uh
thought about it to who might have um
important concerns about climate change
to be able to have a role remember
everyone on this committee is playing an
advisory role um and represent their
group it doesn't matter what age they
are or how long they've been doing it um
and I think there are plenty of people
in the community young and old who would
uh be excellent uh representatives and I
think we at the very least need to um go
out and and and make that known and seek
them out and see who who decides to uh
put their name forward it at that point
I'd be in a better position to decide
thank you thank you councelor Wallace
Richmond councelor lingren thanks if I
may I just want to respond to that um so
what I heard there is that we should be
less prescriptive which is what I'm
aiming for here we would still have
three citizens at large two of them
would be open to whoever would like to
apply uh including seniors including
people in their Middle Ages uh male
female Multicultural backgrounds
whatever it takes and I think that's the
goal here is to be less prescriptive
about who sits in these seats
and opening it up to uh uh a
no no guard rails uh one senior is quite
prescriptive actually and may limit a
55-year-old from applying who comes with
a very interesting perspective or
background so I think that it's really
important that we take out the senior
prescription and leave it open to
whoever is
interested thank you councelor lingren
any other comments on the amend
Amendment could I just clarify with the
director of engineer and Public Works
the three citizens at large when people
apply for those positions will those
Position will those names come forward
to council and Council will select the
three that's my understanding yes okay
thank you all right any other speakers
to the
amendment I'll call a question on the
amendment all those in favor
opposed councelor ganela sir I missed
your vote I was for
okay uh the amendment does not passed
councelor lavry councelor WS Richmond
councelor Canada myself
opposed is there any other discussion
around the
motion seean call a question on the main
motion as stands all those in favor
any
opposed that passes unanimously thank
you very much thank you to the director
of engineering Public Works putting that
together for us okay we'll go to item 10
introduction of
bylaws 10.1 is zoning mment bylaw number
4691 Pacific address 680 10th Street
Southwest the owner is G&G Walters the
agent is G Gary Arsenal um there's a
motion if someone would like to move it
to get it on the
floor councelor ganella would move
it seconded by councelor lavry thank you
I'll ask
uh hello Miss Pont nice to see you
you're gonna speak to this
report yes thank you your worship uh the
subject property is located at 680 10th
Street Southwest south of the Trans
Canada Highway and East of 10th Street
Southwest and Picadilly Mall the subject
property is designated high density
residential in the city's official
community plan and zoned r10 residential
in the zoning bylaw The Proposal is to
rezone the parcel from the r10
residential Zone to the R5 high density
residential Zone this is to allow for
construction of a multif family
residential development the subject
property is located in an appropriate
location for high density housing forms
as it has good access to Transportation
routes recreation parks commercial use
use es a library and a post office once
Consolidated with the property located
at 710 10th Street Southwest the subject
property would meet the requirements of
the R5 Zone with respect to minimum
parcel width and parcel area future
development would require a residential
development permit at which time site
access building massing form and
character and Landscaping will be
reviewed given that the proposed
resoning is consistent with the ocp
staff are supportive of the res Zone
subject to the conditions of LW
consolidation and Ministry of
Transportation and Transit approval
staff are available should Council have
any questions thank you great thank you
very much for your summary of your
report I'll open it up to counselors for
any questions you might have of Miss
Pont or if you want to make a
comment I see no speakers I'll give you
another little minute if you want to
think about it
okay I see no speakers so I will call a
question all those in
favor that passes unanimously thank you
very much we will go to item 102 which
is zoning Amendment bylaw
4689 Civic address is 560 580 610 shop
Street
Southeast um limited company and the uh
uh agent is also the owner there is a
proposed motion um to read this first
second and third time um if I could have
a mover and a seconder councelor Canon
would move councelor lry would second uh
counc lavry yes with second thank you
very much um oh hello Miss Jeffrey
welcome you're going to speak to this
report yes thank you your worship the
subject properties are 560 580 and 610
shwap Street Southeast there is
currently one single family dwelling on
560 Street and the other two are vacant
the properties are designated in the
official community plan as high density
residential and are zoned
r10 the purpose of the zoning Amendment
application is to rezone the subject
Parcels from r10 to R5 high density
residential in order to permit a future
multif family residential
development staff are supportive of the
rezoning should the following conditions
be met consolidating of the subject
properties uh conduct a traffic impact
assessment and Ministry of
Transportation
approval um could you go to appendix
nine
please once Consolidated the subject
property would satisfy the minimum lot
area requirement of R5 Zone staff want
to correct information given to the
development given at development and
planning meeting December 16th 2024 the
maximum allowable units permitted with
density bonuses would be 46
units 36 without
bonuses since the proposed resoning
aligns with the ocp staff are supportive
of the
application thank you very much thank
you for your summary of your report and
for noting that correction counselors
I'll open it up to you and know we
talked about it at planning but
certainly there's opportunity to ask
questions or comment here
councelor Flynn thank you worship and I
support this motion and we'll vote in
favor
um it's designated RI or uh high density
in this area in the ocp and that's
because it's close to downtown and we
expect people will drive less and things
like that the last one which was right
near a mall did not have a requirement
for traffic impact study and this has
many multi
um unit developments around it I'm
trying to understand does that traffic
impact study help us figure out what
improvements we need um and why would
this one have a traffic impact study
when increased traffic is probably
similar to the other one thank you for
your question I'm director of
engineering of Public Works yes your
worship so shwap and and fifth is the
intersection Fifth Avenue uh has
basically been identified as
a a weak intersection to say the least
and so the the traffic impact study
would allow us to determine what impact
this development would have on that
particular intersection and if they
would be required for any improvements
and that would be at their
cost okay so approximately how much does
a traffic impact study cost director of
engineering Public Works it it depends
on who they get for a consultant I mean
I I don't have the pricing I mean it
could be 5,00 it could be 10,000 it
could be more depending on how in depth
they have to go but this is a fairly
simple uh impact study okay thank you
thank you councelor Flynn councelor
labry uh yeah thanks you worship I fully
support this we've had discussion out of
planning and uh uh this makes uh
imminent sense I also want to reiterate
how helpful staff uh including the Zone
comparison charts are not only for us
but I know when people ask me questions
about an application and I can refer
them to that comparison chart it uh
really crystallizes the conversation so
I know staff is doing it they're doing
it regularly and kudos to them for doing
it thank you thank you councelor lavry
councelor lingren thanks your worship I
just wondered I know the concept designs
are rarely exactly what's going to be
built but I'm just curious uh if we know
anything about what the parking
arrangements are going to be for 46 cars
on that site
thank you councelor lingren you probably
know I'm going to remind uh Council this
is a resoning application but I will ask
Miss Jeffrey if she can comment on on
the parking piece thank you your worship
um no we do not have um a crystal idea
of what the parking is going to look
like okay thanks thank you any other
comments or questions from
Council seeing none I'll call the
question first three readings of the
rezoning all those in
favor that passes unanimously thank you
very much Miss Jeffrey for your report
we will move to 10.3 which is
subdivision and development services
Amendment bylaw
4698 um there is a proposed motion if
there's a virtual movers and seconders I
would accept that moved by councelor
Wallis Richmond seconded by councelor
lavry thank you councilors um I'll go to
the
is it Miss smurl or is it director of
engineering and Public Works speak into
this
one director of engineering and public
works thank you worship so the
subdivision development services bylaw
was adopted by Council on June 26 of 23
the Vio requires um and regulates the
provisions of works and services in
respect to the subdivision and
development of the land within the city
development means the alternative of
land
by the construction insulation extension
and alternative of any building and or
structure that requires a building
permit the city is required to obtain a
building permit for works that fall
under the BC building code and therefore
the city requires complete the works and
services triggered by the subdivision
development services bylaw the city
prioritizes and completes the upgrades
uh to works and services within the city
right away on a priority basis to best
meet the needs of the community staff
believe it is not in the best interest
of the taxpayer for the city to complete
Frontage upgrades outside the priorities
established for the community due to the
application of a building permit for
institutional
infrastructure um staff are requesting
the amendment to the subdivision
development services bylaw to exempt
City properties from the requirements of
the subdivision development services
bylaw this will per permit Capital work
projects to be completed as planned
without being forced to under take
Frontage upgrades and works that could
significantly impact the
budgets thank you very much councilors
councelor Flynn thank you worship and uh
when I read this I found it very
interesting and maybe a little bit
confusing for me but maybe I can use a
specific example and that will help me
understand um the new residents at the
college created offsite for the college
and then we chose to do some
offsites and the improvements are
amazing and significant and probably
were somewhere in our
priority is
it that we just want the flexibility to
decide not to necessarily do those
improvements if they're not in a plan
already or decide if we want to advance
them is that kind of what you're trying
to do just give staff some flexibility
director of engineering and Public Works
yes your worship that's correct um to
give another example the the water
treatment plant zone 2 Pump Station uh
the Water Treatment Plant is a huge
Frontage yeah and that project is
already you know worth 4 point some
million dollars to add the frontage
improvements which are in okay shape
right now but really need to be planned
as a separate project so it gives us
some flexibility so I guess it's just a
perfect example of some of the times
that staff's hands are tied by by loss
or by our rules and you're just trying
to get a little more flexibility in this
rule to actually do the work when it
should happen in our overall
planning director of engineering and
public works that's absolutely correct
your worship um we do have a a very
extensive Capital Works plan and a lot
of times the frontage improvements are
planned in in association with other
projects and so that's what we'd like to
uh to be able to do with this okay well
I would personally be very silly to not
support staff in this request thank you
councelor Flynn councelor
lavry uh yeah thanks you worship uh
through you to staff so I I get the
intent of this and I support it for the
most part but I I'm looking for some
concrete examples here um in the last
two or three years we've probably made
strides when there's been some City
infrastructure that
uh and it may not require building pered
I could be corrected on that but some
City infrastructure that's added to and
that we've managed to find ways to put
an active Transportation or other uh key
con I'm thinking connectivity
infrastructure here so how would this
request factor into some infrastructure
where there might be
connectivity uh
enhancements but essentially
that not coming in front of council to
discuss director of engineering Public
Works your worship I guess I that goes
with the the
planning exercises that we go through if
if and typically this is a building
permit uh so another example would be
the um the Fifth Avenue booster or sorry
the fifth zone five booster station
along tenth and so that would have been
a very small Frontage to put in a
multi-use path a very challenging one um
so that was also deferred um it doesn't
mean that it's off the list if we have a
case where we have a building permit um
that we could do the works in
conjunction with an additional Act of
Transportation Capital project that we
would we would do that um but really in
answer to councilor lab's question we
are looking for the flexibility to defer
Frontage improvements if we feel that we
we just either cannot afford them or
they haven't been um or they're on for a
different time in the in the plan to be
constructed councilor
lry um so these are more comments and
questions then so I I get the
intent um and I trust staff to bring
things forward but I I'm not sure if I
can support this at this stage unless
there is some
language
about a
reference to
council like not an automatic exemption
but some language about a reference to
council prior to exemption um I think
Council needs some control over that and
I I I don't have the word smithing in
front of me here to do that so I'm going
to think about this more a little bit
you worship if there's any time um but
if I'm going to oppose it if there's no
uh and I I rep I understand the
alternative implications as uh noted in
the staff report
but I kind of want this to remain a
council decision thank you thank you
councelor labry councelor lingren thanks
your worship um I have similar thoughts
I'm just I think curious what would be
the advantage to this over just coming
to council for a
variance director of engineering of
Public Works your worship I guess it's
it's about time it's really about time
and if there was a requirement to do do
those works if Council defeated it then
Council would have to put money in the
budget to do those works and if they
weren't necessarily budgeted with the
building permit then it would come from
somewhere from reserves or gener Revenue
to to fund that
project yeah I think go ahead I think
for me I would rather see the city
budgeting for those things and coming
for a variance and we come out ahead in
the the grand scheme of things there's
more money than budgeted than we're
actually going to spend
um and I I think it's important that uh
regardless of how good staff is at doing
this that Council has uh some influence
because they're here at the table
representing the views of the people
that elected us and so I think it's
important that those views are heard on
these kinds of issues um I understand
the issue around timing it can cause
delays to have to come to Council and
ask for a variance however I think that
a lot of the projects that we
approve
um they're approved well in advance of
when the project actually gets started
and so I'm not sure that that
is um kind of the deciding factor for me
so I think I I think I stand opposed at
this time thank you councelor lingren
we'll go to councelor Wallace Richman
next uh your worship thank you uh I'm
I'm warmed to this idea I I think uh as
a as a council as staff as a community
we have some very ambitious plans in
place Asset Management plans uh
strategic priority plans ocp plans um
this is a a the building permit piece is
is an additional part and I don't
I think there's an expectation that um
we've made commitments to get things
done we've got budgets in place and when
delays like this happen uh and there's a
way to avoid them I actually think we
should we should try it this way and see
how it works there nothing to be said
that in a year from now we put the
breakes on because things didn't get
done the way they should have got done
or we missed an opportunity to do
something we we thought we would but we
o have to give staff the tools to move
ahead on on some of the very ambitious
um uh to-do lists we've given them so
I'm going to vote in favor and I would
encourage uh Council to give this um
take this approach uh to see because we
all know we've seen delays in projects
the community really wanted whether we
had to do the upgrade say for example
Highway improvements and the West Den
that sort of thing um and if this is a
if that was a barrier and this can speed
things up let's try it and see what
happens thank you councelor Wallace
Richmond councelor Canon thank you
worship I too um support uh this change
to our bylaw I think the example uh that
director of engineering gave about the
pump station and the
frontage I think I think really what it
boils down to is that we get our ourself
caught up in our a bit of bureaucracy
with projects and moving them forward
and I think this gives the ability to
not have our city staff come to us with
the
variance instead they can go ahead and
get the jobs done that we have already
budgeted in our budget process so we
know those jobs are getting done and if
you know there really is a need for that
Frontage work or whatever to be done I'm
sure that our staff will recognize that
and bring that to the table when we do
our budget process so I'm in favor of
this thank you councelor Canon councelor
Flynn yeah I will reiterate my support
um when we talk about our decision-
making at this table the budget every
year includes the capital Works projects
this motion is saying that if staff
feels upgrades are needed that will
probably be part of the budget of that
project and to me I think we look
extremely we get looked at extremely
interestingly by our taxpayers if we're
having to apply to ourselves for a
variance um I trust staff to know what
our priorties are we are part of that
prioritization of works and to take one
piece of bureaucracy out I think most
people would be in favor of that so I
will vote and support thank you
councelor Flynn councelor ganella thank
your warship and through you to possibly
the um COA the the question I have about
this because I'm I'm listening to that
the counselors and I'm on the offence of
uh uh supporting this but I also
understand where counselor lavy
and council lingren is coming from for
in a sense
of there's it feels like there's no
breaks on it and which I'm saying
anyone's going to do anything um outside
of the being professional of course um
is there a way that we can make this
this we make a motion a friendly Mo
amendment to give this a a certain time
as treat it as a pilot project and or a
pilot you know period where we can say
does this work and we can just look at
it not saying so we can have what we
need want to have approved today but
also have put a timer on it so you're
thinking like a a review of some kind
one year and just see if this is this is
working as expected I'll pass your
question on to the chief administrative
officer
through your worship yes you can set a
time limit on it and we can write that
into the bylaw it would require a bylaw
Amendment however so we we can do that
did you wish to make an amendment uh
councelor ganella I would like to make
that Amendment thank you okay and um
what kind of timeline are you thinking
of for the
review 12 months okay so that your
Amendment would be the bylaw entitled
city of seminar subdivision development
services Amendment bylaw um be read a
first second and third time um and
should the bylaw pass uh be reviewed by
Council in 12 months exactly what I
would have said thank you is there a
seconder to that
amendment seconded by councelor Wallace
Richmond I think that's second yes
councelor ganal do you wish to speak to
your Amendment yeah yes I um thank you
for um having the opportunity to speak
again on this uh again I I feel like
this is is giving us um supporting staff
in the direction they would like to go
but also giving Council an opportunity
to review this um in a timely manner uh
I don't think it's too short 12 months
gives us some time to have a reflection
and think this if this is the right way
we want to approach from here on out
thank you thank you councelor ganal
councelor lingren did you wish to speak
to the amendment councelor Flynn did you
speak to the amendment councelor Canon
did you wish to speak to the amendment
okay so councelor lingren I'm just going
to skip over you and then I'll come back
if you press your button councelor Flynn
please go ahead thank you worship and I
understand the intent of the amendment
but I will vote against first of all we
are in these seats for almost another
two
years I don't understand why we can't
give at least two years so I don't like
the one year and I also um don't think
there'll be that many projects that this
will apply to in that year so I am
against the amendment and again fully
supported the motion thank thank you
councelor Flynn councelor Canon to the
amendment thank you worship I to am
against the amendment and fully support
the original uh
motion any other speakers to the
amendment seeing none I will call a
question on the amendment all those in
favor the amendment fails councelor
lingren councelor canel and myself in
favor councelor lavry councelor Wallace
rich councelor Flynn and councelor Canon
opposed so we're back to the original
motion and councelor lingren it's your
turn to speak yeah I just have a
question
about um responsibility in the eyes of
the public and if um for instance a
project went
ahead uh people from the community felt
that it should have had a sidewalk or a
multi-use path or some other upgrade
done and and uh the city didn't complete
it who who will the public hold
responsible for that and is that the
right place for it is that I feel like
the city will be standing in the firing
line when it should be us taking the
heat from the public uh for decisions
that are
made uh by the city and so I'm I'm
curious if anybody has any insight into
how that could play out
um don't staff wanted to comment that I
could I could give you my opinion I
think my opinion would be that um it
would come back to council generally we
get letters from people who are and it's
easy to Mayor and Council so I think
that's the way it would
go right but the council would then be
being held responsible by the public for
a decision they aren't making and what
would be the response from Council we're
sorry we'll think about doing it
different next time because we won't be
and Council would then have to decide
whether they wanted to fund whatever
they request from the person who wrote
the letter was and that would be up to
them but it wouldn't be coming forward
to council staff would be making the
decision yes that's
correct
so yeah maybe I didn't explain myself
very well you're you're right staff
would make the decision resident would
write to council Council would say maybe
we should put that sidewalk in there put
it next year 's budget or no we think
staff was right we don't need debt
sidewalk okay I I see a lot of wasted
money when we look back and say oh we
did that project last year let's tear it
up and put a sidewalk in the time to do
these works is when it's all torn up to
do the work in the first place and I
think that if council is going to be
held responsible for those decisions
they should be making those
decisions okay thank you um other
speakers councel
lavry yeah thanks for a second time your
worship I mean so I think the the uh
differences are have been well of of
thought have been well exemplified here
uh this is not a criticism of staff at
all um so I one question and another
comment through you if I remember
correctly uh
we
passed a variance Todo work down at the
water treatment plant upgrade is that
correct yes that is correct to Pump
Station two yeah and threeyear
worship did the fact of H how long did
that defer the project by having to go
through our existing process of coming
to council to support that
exemption I I'll pass that on to the
director of engineering Public Works um
in regards to time it was more just one
more step but ultimately it comes down
to the cost it would have significantly
increased the cost of that project and
I'm not sure that uh we would have been
able to complete it all or got approval
for the the costs but having said that
um it could have been included in the
total works but we're seeing so many
costs uh escalating over the next or
over the last year and in future um so
we are looking at basically doing the
project if it's a building permit uh
similar to the zone five doing the
project and then postponing the frontage
works for a later date when it can be
combined with a larger
project councilor lavry I'll pass it
back to you yeah no thanks for the
response to that so
that in many ways bolsters the point
that I'm going to make is that I I was
one I I I can't remember the exact vote
but I think it was heartily endorsed to
uh for the city to exempt itself from
the lications of that work that was done
and what I'm hearing is it didn't take a
lot of extra time it was one more step
and I appreciate that um I would like I
I would like to know I think that's a
higher standard than uh essentially what
the
proposal uh puts forward I think it's a
higher standard and at least gives
Council the review of that this has been
mentioned before um doesn't signific L
delay it unless I am missing something
so uh your worship I um be interested to
see what the lay it doesn't have to be a
spreadsheet but the lay of the land is
in terms of projects that might fall
into this category and I would move that
we defer this motion until we get that
information there second to the deferral
councelor lingren as there's no
discussion on deferral we'll call a
question on the deferral all those in
favor
any
opposed the deferral motion passes
councelor Canon counselor Flynn are
opposed we didn't put a timeline on it
deferral except uh to receive the
information so we'll leave that with
staff to bring that back to us Council
will proceed to
correspondence
348 I think it's time for a comfort
break let's take five minutes and then
uh we'll be back here at
3:55 I'm optimistic we're going to get
informational correspondence done in 5
minutes and we'll be ready for our uh
friends from the Samar Mar Center at 4
o'clock
e e
regular council meeting of Monday
February
10 just give everybody a chance to get
settled okay we are at uh section 12 the
correspondent section we have five
pieces of informational
correspondents please uh indicate if you
wish to speak to any councelor Ken your
name was up here and I wasn't sure if it
was about informational correspondent
press again if you would please thank
you councelor Canon please go
ahead so what was the letter from
sabnis I'm
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requesting about the tower that they're
I'm writing on behalf of the board blah
blah blah um safety concerns of the Old
Tower poses potential safety
hazard
and just wanted to support them in this
so do we need to write a letter of
support they're asking for money yeah
would you perhap did you want to hear
from staff uh could we ask that or yeah
okay sure um I'm not sure if it would be
the director of engineering of Public
Works um or if it Mr jro who wanted to
speak to
it yeah think you Council so yeah this
is uh Sav is asking for assistance to
remove the the last remaining bird
platform the one just north of Christmas
Island I believe their request is
proposed to contribute 3,000 towards the
removal um our estimates um are
estimates but we're guessing about $6 to
7,000 in complete cost for moove that
platform with the city staff okay so I
think Mr drill I think they're
suggesting they would contribute 3,000
that's what you said so you're saying
that if the council wish to help it
would be about
$4,000 um would be the enough money to
make that happen that would be the
estimate amount yes okay councilor Canon
I'll pass back to
you um I guess I mean I would be willing
to support them in that perhaps maybe we
have money out of council
initiatives okay um if you'd like to
make a motion to take $4,000 from
Council initiatives to do this project
then I would be open to that motion if
there's a second or okay make that
motion councelor Flynn will second it do
you wish to speak to the motion
councelor Canon no I just think that
this is something that we wanted uh to
move ahead on and do so I think it's
something that we should support thank
you other speakers to that motion
councelor um Flynn okay go ahead yeah
speaking to the motion I support us
providing up to
$4,000 I knowing we're doing the budget
on Wednesday and knowing I don't think
we spent all our Council initiatives
last year but I'm not sure I would ask
the CFO what happens to unspent council
initiatives in budget do we have the
opportunity to roll them over and
accumulate this last year's with this
year's uh and then the other question I
have is councelor uh lingren made me
aware that we supposedly on paper still
have some money in a Canada 150 fund
somewhere in the neighborhood of
$137,000 or not 13
37,000 I wish it was 137 and I'm not
sure if we could use that instead of
council initiatives so those are my
questions Chief Financial Officer um
regarding the council initiatives piece
and any unused fund from 2024 do they
roll
over threee warship the council
initiatives I've budgeted on a onetime
line and they do not roll forward into a
reserve per year and the current
budget you guys have probably seen
already is
$175,000 the reason why I put it as one
time is because I've reviewed the last
few years had noticed that it wasn't
used and I didn't feel like creating one
more account or Reserve within the our
long list okay so there's uh you're
suggesting 17 a half thousand in the
2025 budget and coun Canon's motion is
to uh if she accepted Council LA's
friendly amendment is up to four ,000
from that account councilor Canon is
that correct um yeah I thought it was at
4000
after yeah I think yeah so are you
comfortable with up to 4,000 okay thank
you um and the second is comfortable
with that I am except I'd rather find
another source if we can't use some of
last year's so I don't know about this
37,000 in the Canada 150 was the second
part of my question okay I think
councilor wall Richman might know
something about that 150 money but I'm
not positive councelor Wallace Richmond
maybe I'm thinking of a different
fund
um my understanding was we we allocated
that money those monies last year uh to
upgrade the corner where the Senate tap
is so failing failing Clarity on that if
there is money left in the um
Council
initiatives perhaps that's the best
motion to
discuss okay um Council Flyn do you wish
to comment further yeah so the fact
there is money in Council initiatives
our brand new 175 that hasn't been
allocated I am saying as a last resource
I would support using it now in Council
initiatives I'd rather carry forward
from last year if that's possible but it
doesn't sound like it is or find out
what happened with this 37,000 in that
Canada 150 thank you um councelor
lingren thanks your worship um so this
came up about uh maybe a month ago
sabnis brought it to the attention of
the city because they were looking for
some assistance to remove the bird beam
platform it's decrepid and poses a risk
to safety if uh we end up with teenagers
out there at a party one night climbing
it um when they brought the idea to the
city uh Darren did a costing and told
them that it would be about $6,000 and
so the reason they're putting up 3,000
of their own money is because they
wanted to make sure that uh they were
contributing 50% so I have no problem uh
going with three to $4,000 if we want to
spend more um I I also think that that
Canada 150 account is empty and I'm not
sure why it's showing money uh if
there's money in it I suggest we spend
it on this uh there are also other areas
that I think where we could take the
money I think that the covid restart
Grant still has $71,000 in it and we've
spent more than uh the 3.6 million I
think already um so the money the
71,000 that's in the account is an
accumulation of interest on paper and
should be able to be spent on just about
anything I would think though I think
that the covid restart Grant would be um
a usable uh place to get the money from
for this uh but one way or another I
support a motion that we uh put up at
least 50% of the money and help get rid
of this uh platform so that there's a
fresh start for the new platform to go
in and uh this is the appropriate time
to do it because the equipment's already
on the foreshore doing the uh sewer main
or sewer relining or whatever we called
it down there so I think that that would
reduce the cost of uh for time
especially
great thank you councelor lingren and
the present motion is to have the monies
come from Council initiatives councelor
lavry yeah
um I think you wish this for me this is
I'm I'm in favor of the attent of the
principal up to 4,000 and I can explain
why at a different time but I think that
we need uh a I think this is part of the
the budget discussion I agree with
councelor Flynn if it's coming out of
2025 Council initiatives 25 uh is a last
resort um I I'm not sure that I want to
put staff on the spot here of saying
what about Canada uh you know the the
Canada Day thing what about uh some of
the other possible accounts I think that
we should leave that with them and defer
this to our budget discussions my second
deferral of the day your worship
proposal is that a deferral motion that
you're making councelor it is is a
deferral motion to uh to the budget
process is there a second or to the
deferral motion councelor Flynn will
second that motion um there's no
discussion of deferral all those in
favor of the
deferral councelor labry councelor
Wallace WR and councelor flynner in
favor the defer motion does not pass
we'll go back to the table and consider
the motion which is to contribute up to
$4,000 from Council initiatives to
assist sabnis with a removal of uh this
deck any speakers to that motion
councelor Flynn I'm going to ask the
Mover because I believe it was you
councelor Canon um if we could word the
motion that up to $4,000 from a fund
councilor Flynn if you want to amend the
motion you can try amending the motion
you don't talk to the Mover about
amending it that goes through the chair
I would like to amend the motion
to change the wording to from Council
initiatives to from a source to be
determined that makes the most sense
councelor Flynn that that would be a
different motion so I'm sorry I can't
accept that as an amendment okay I'll
vote against the motion he councelor
Canon speaking to the amendment or to
the motion well I'm very glad that this
motion didn't get deferred even though
we couldn't speak about it if it would
have
because I think councelor lingren makes
a really good point we have we will have
the equipment down there doing work so
time is of the essence it doesn't need
to get wrapped up in bureaucracy of
where the money's coming from I know
that last at our last council meeting we
took money from Council initiatives and
it wasn't talked about that it was out
of this year's budget and this pot and
that pot and that was uh to give money
towards having a celebration party this
is a very
important project and we know how much
that trail gets used so I think this is
money very well spent and this is an
important thing to do while we have the
equipment down
there hey thank you um further speakers
councelor lingren thanks your worship um
I think I asked a question the last time
I was up and was wondering if the if
staff could could speak about the covid
restart Grant and whether or not we can
take the money from there okay um Chief
uh Financial
Officer uh the covid re uh restart money
is funds are sitting there we've set
them
aside for the future trying not to at
least set a few Pockets here and there
to be discussed further on budget day
but those funds are not spoken for at
this moment thank you Council lingren
yeah I did see that there was quite a
bit of that money uh earmarked for
projects that are going to be completed
in
2025 and after all of those projects are
funded there's still $71,000 so uh I
would like to make
uh Amendment to the pocket of money and
make it the covid restart Grant rather
than Council initiatives I will accept
that Amendment um because it's specific
is there a second to that Amendment
councelor Flynn
discussion around that
Amendment my discussion will be I'll
support it I think we those of read the
budget know all those pockets and we've
got our eyes on them for this budget
whether that money comes out of out of
council initiatives out of that budget
or any of the other ones at the front of
that budget don't really make any
difference because we're going to be
looking to spend that money um when when
we have budget discussion here so I
don't mind supporting the amendment um
yeah no troubles councelor Flynn did you
wish to speak to the amendment speak in
favor of the amendment but did have a
question related to the amendment um we
had originally talked about deferral we
can't discuss deferral in my
understanding it was for two days till
the budget process but can I ask staff
how long the equipment will be there and
how long we have to get the work done
because I don't think deferring two days
would have been an issue sure we we can
ask the director of engineering Public
Works uh regarding the the project
your worship the the foreshore main
relining is is going to take several
months to do so they'll be down there
for a significant amount of time and I
suspect that it'll be in cooperation
with City staff as well
so I will vote in favor of the amendment
because I don't want to tie our hands on
Council initiatives especially in what I
know is going to be a difficult budget
year so thank you hey thank you
councelor Flint any other speakers
counselor labry I don't want to miss you
out um I think think I think you just
pressed your you just indicated you wish
to speak please go ahead it's not on the
amendment your worship I'll I'll wait
till after okay any other speakers to
the
amendment and the amendment is to change
the source of where the monies would
come
from seeing none I'll call a question
all those in favor of the
amendment that passes
unanimously now the count the motion as
amended I'll go to councelor lavry First
uh thank you worship um no I think as
things have um progressed I I I'll
support the motion at hand this is I I
haven't heard anyone at the table here
talk about the importance the immediacy
of this the need to flange it up with
the work that's being done there it's
really is the source of uh where the
revenue would come from for from a very
unique situation I think we need to be
responsive and I think we can so I'm I
fully support what's in front of us
thank
you thank you any other speakers to the
motion as
amended seeing none I'll call a question
all those in
favor that passes unanimously thank you
Council thank you for your assistant
staff and getting that uh to us other
items on informational correspondence
councelor Flynn
12.15 can we just pass that on to Mr jro
or the director of engineering and
Public Works to work with the
organization is that all we need at this
table just check with our chief
administrative officer we don't need a
motion to do that do
we your Worship in the past my
understanding is that it was referred to
the rec Society it it was at council's
table for some time if council's
comfortable referring it then that's
completely okay do we need a motion um
no you can leave it with us okay if
anyone wants to speak other than that
please let us know and we can form
normalize
that okay I think everybody's satisfied
with that thank you councelor Flynn
anyone else wish to speak to
informational
correspondence okay I think some of you
have looked at
12.1.3 Mr wier's uh shwap Lifeboat
Society activities video If you haven't
seen the video it's worth taking 15
minutes to watch it it's very well done
and very
informative okay I see no other speakers
to that our guests are
here hello Christie hi thank you for
being here please come forward and thank
you Tracy also you would like a little
slot at the end right Tracy okay we'll
make sure we do
that okay councelor ganella you're going
to leave at this time aren't you all
right
sorry please go ahead thank you for
coming to and reporting to usks for me
don't know my
name
exor microphone please I'll get closer
my name is Christy Watson executive
director of District Arts Council and
many of you know the Arts Council at the
Zam Arts Center and I want to start by
thanking mayor and councel for the
recent increase to our fee for service
the stability and capacity that this
provides will increase our impact on the
region and will also keep us competitive
in the provincial and National Grant
competitions as more and more we're
seeing funders want to see
organizational stability um towards
so I've got lot I want to share with you
today so I'm going to go through pretty
quickly so we can leave some time the
end to go anything with a little more
detail if so I just want to begin with
our
budget if I could interrupt that
microphone please where it's very hard
to
hear sorry about that so our um our
budget revenues for uh for last year we
can see
myass 3,
36652 Sal arm uh city of Salmon Arm
contributions represent about 15% of our
total revenues our largest source of
revenues is Project grant funding
followed by operational
grants and in expenses we have a balance
budget this past year most of what we
spend money on are salaries followed by
artist fees and program contracts that
represents what 83% of our budget goes
directly to people living in and around
s most so I'm very I'm pleased to be
able to provide as much economic support
for
individuals across all programs our
total attendance was
8,711 and the total artists that were
engaged for the past
so our work is uh made possible through
uh a lot of Partnerships a lot of
collaboration we're very pleased to
partner last year sh up IM Services
Society C sh re sto sh children's
Society songs barel Hallen theater sh
theater Society rise up indigenous
Wellness SC first na B SAR Economic
Development society and downtown
s these wonderful organizations and in
addition support we received from the
city we are also fed by the BC Arts
Council BC tourism BC direct access
gaming BC touring Council sh foundation
and so we'll start by uh going into our
programming so that we can see what all
that looks like starting with the sound
arm Art Gallery exhibitions for
20124 we started last year with a
exhibition called environments for
reading
cozy notes for reading and
reflection and a large community
collaboration where a bunch of PODS were
built that knitting and cting and so so
together and we um we sold all
those followed uh foll that show was
which is a word a
tree and it featured uh 12 artists
exploring trees and artistic responses
to
that
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I don't think so because I hear see your
light so uh councelor lavy councelor
Wallace Richmond can you hear
me uh I can hear you I can hear you as
well sir your worship okay you can hear
me okay so it's something to do with
what's going on up there we'll work on
it we've gone from low sound to no
sound okay it's not our speaker's fault
um it must be some technical problem so
we're working okay just progress it' be
fine
thanks anything
now councelor lavry can you hear him
now this is me
talking uh it's it's very very low and I
got my speakers turned up to the top you
worship so there's something it's
something uh electronic there we'll take
you to we'll take Christie to a
different mic he's very
flexible how's that how's
that how are are you hearing me now oh
yes we can you comment on the covid-19
budget the covid-19 budget gez well
where to begin
okay please go ahead sorry sorry
counselors but I think we're okay now
thanks very much this is very cozy over
here
now uh let's see here so we're just
wrapping up the so the Drag Brunch we've
been running as part of the lad BR
celebration for a few years it's
extremely popular and and wonderful to
see people of all ages eating together
sharing laughs and entertainment
inclusion and
openness next up is tote theater on the
edge which is uh a new Initiative for us
we part it's been going on for the last
decade run by the shwap theater and we
partnered with shwab theater last year
to present tote uh we presented a range
of really interesting shows including uh
shipa with Kent and
Thomas um this show is called it's a
little scroll down this is June bug by
uh ragam muffin Theater which is a
theater for all ages
show uh we presented a show called Dey
by a company called uh follow the signs
theater from Calgary this was written
and performed by a profoundly deaf
artist about his experience coming to
terms with
that we also presented a show called
Playing Fields by the chop theater uh
and we did that show outside at Jackson
Field and we did a show by runaway Moon
theater called how did you get here
which featured four different shows that
all pop out of a small
suitcase Wednesday on the warf of course
takes place as it always does every
summer uh it's always wonderful to see
so many people out for this this free
community Gathering um there's nine
shows in total I'll just give you a
couple highlights uh the Kayla Williams
and the yacht dades yacht rock band
really brought down the house fantastic
show and uh we're always very happy to
to partner with roots and blues for one
of the shows each Wednesday on the warf
this one was Bueno rostro which was an
indigenous Latin uh jazz band
we were really uh very happy with the
the turnout for the presentation of a
band called en Karma which is a bangra
band we tried something a little bit new
this year where we made some uh show
specific flyers for this one in
particular was uh in English and Punjabi
and we put extra effort into going to or
rather astred varns put an extra effort
into going to um businesses local
businesses around town with connections
to the South Asian Community to really
make sure that the word was getting out
to everyone and the the turnout was
really diverse really wonderful and it
was a great great night we look forward
to working with them
again and of course our uh our paow uh
pilot which was the last event in WoW uh
was so beautiful so wonderful uh really
well attended thanks so much to the the
city for their support of this which we
hope to make part of wow every year just
show you a couple quick photos here
couple of little ancillary things we do
or maybe not so little this is the big
yellow tent which we now have up in the
uh spring summer fall months and people
can sit here and have a their coffee or
their lunch or small gathering can be
held and we're looking for more ways to
animate this outdoor space we also
received a grant from the BC Arts found
Arts um uh British Columbia Arts Council
to to uh revamp our community art
collection room so we have lovely
rolling shelving now so we can really
invest in that and find ways to make
that more accessible to our
community and of course we take every
opportunity to uh have do arts based
Community Development works there's just
a few examples are Truth and
Reconciliation Day the Earth Day
celebration featuring runaway moons uh
weaving project the treat Trail a Switz
mou story sharing project we're working
on with Louie Thomas and we've been also
were had fun working with the Shoop IM
Services Hive after school program
bringing some artists to their program
there's Kenton there on the bottom left
telling some stories to
Youth and uh I wanted to also give a
quick fiveyear solar planel report now
that we're five years into that project
which is going really really well just a
couple just a kind of brief overview for
average annual production consumption
and costs
the uh production of the solar panels is
approximately 10 megawatt hours per year
so as a savings that represents about
four tons of CO2 about approximately
60,000 kilometers of driving cost-wise
that's a savings of
$1,325 so when compared to the grid
energy we use every year which is um
about 8 megawatt hours the cost of that
is
$1,110 um the majority of that use is by
the pottery club's Kiln which we tracked
over a period of time and discovered
that that was came to a cost of about
$975 which the pottery Club is covering
the cost of as part of their uh rental
agreement with us so we end up spending
about $135 a year on energy for the
entire uh building which is really uh
fantastic thing so what of course can we
do with
$1,325 well at the Arts Center we can do
a lot and here's a few examples uh we
can collaborate with rise up indigenous
Wellness on a mural project for urban
indigenous youth led by local artists
and educator Sarah wans or we can
partner with Sho up children's
Association to host an eight-week drop
in break dance series led by Manny
Christensen or we can work with CMHA to
present a crosscultural storytelling
exchange with Kenan Thomas and Donna
Michelle St Bernard at the CMHA learning
Studios so we can do an awful lot with a
small amount of money there and we
really put it to good use and really
appreciate all the the support that we
receive so that's all from me about our
report I'd like to uh invite Now Tracy
Kucher up to share a few final words and
if there's any questions afterwards I'm
happy to speak to anything in more
detail thank you very much thank you
very much Christie and uh Tracy great to
see you please come forward you guys can
sit side by side there if you
like oh look we all
have welcome Tracy very nice to see you
thank you and I very much appreciate
this opportunity to speak to you today
um I wanted to just have one and a half
minutes to um to just have um an
opportunity to thank you really uh the
first time I stood in front of city
council Colin ma was in the mayor's
chair and you mayor Harrison was were a
city counselor who was fondly referred
to as the Minister of
Finance and I do remember that um you
asked a lot of even long before we
talked about funding for the Arts Arts
Council you asked a lot of financial
questions and I wanted you to know that
it made me very diligent about counting
every dollar that came into and went out
of the Arts Council thank you for that
um I wanted to uh also remember that
when Mayor Marty bzma was here um I
asked him to if he would consider the
Arts Council becoming the cultural arm
of city council and he said I thought
you already were and so from that moment
I started to look at our relationship uh
more as a partnership and I I wanted to
um I wanted to work uh to deliver
cultural services on your behalf and of
course um we wanted to reach as many
citizens as possible year round and
through a wide variety of accessible
programs and also take care of that
incredibly beautiful Heritage building
and I I believe that we've built trust
and respect in that partnership over the
years so throughout the establishment of
the operating agreement uh through the
cultural master plan through the pride
project and many public art projects um
I felt I have always felt boyed by the
continued support and enthusiasm by city
council and Senior staff and especially
in these last few years uh because we
are adapting to Rapid change and I fully
appreciated that so as I now leave the
organization in a very healthy place um
I feel like that is in large part due to
the support of the city of Salon arm and
of course um I I may see you again it's
a small town small City Big Ideas um I
may see you again in another capacity
but for now I just wanted to say Cooks
Jem thank you for all the wonderful
times well thank you very much Tracy
really appreciate you
I remember May uh Mayor
Marty saying that and
uh you were the arm of the arm of the
culture of Salmon Arm so you've brought
that a long ways and we appreciate um we
appreciate all you've done you're right
I I do like to watch pennies and dimes
and nickels but I have to say that I
think we've had amazing value the
citizens of Salmon Arm for our the
monies that we've spent and so thank you
for that and I can see that carrying
forward just looking at the report
today counselors I'm going to open it up
to you to any uh comments you'd like to
make either questions or comments to
Christie or to Tracy we'll start with
councelor lingren thanks you worship and
thanks to Tracy and Christie for the
work that you do in Salmon Arm it's
incredible um I think that the Arts
Council has done far more than just
celebrate art uh in Salmon Arm and if
your goal was to create um to build
culture create a safe and diverse space
and to reach people you've done that and
so much more um I'm a bit surprised that
your casual speech there I I think you
just told us you resigned or you've
retired perhaps um and you just sort of
slid that past without any Fanfare so um
I just want to say that it's been an
incred experience sitting up here and
watching the work that you guys do and
we appreciate all of it and the
invitations for us to come and
participate thank you councelor lingren
councelor Wallace
Richmond thank you so much and I'm so
sorry I couldn't be there today to offer
um a a handshake and more likely a hug
um I just want to address first my
comments to Tracy uh Tracy uh the mayor
said you're the arm and I would actually
um challenge him I think you're more
like the heart of of the Arts community
and the connections that have been built
um over these many many years um through
your dedication your kindness your
belief in in samon arm samon arm is a
much more connected Place uh uh than
it's ever been and a lot of that heart
lives in that building so
for you and for Eric and for your family
I mean from from the chief cookie maker
on uh on down your whole family has put
your heart into that building um and
into the programming and you we are so
profoundly grateful to have had you for
as long as we did and um you have big
shoes to fill Christie just so you know
um and but we will continue to support
you because we see the model and the
model works when your District Arts
Council is partnered with your
municipality um we accomplish uh goals
of building a stronger more
inclusive uh Kinder uh more thoughtful
uh more beautiful um and a healthier
community so I'm very grateful for that
and I and I look forward to what happens
uh next art um just like heart doesn't
have a beginning uh middle and an end it
goes on forever so I'm grateful thank
you so
much thank you councelor Wallace
Richmond and uh I will accept that
Amendment heart for arm without second
or much better
actually my Council sometimes when I
don't accept the amendment of the
amendment they're a little curious but
that one I take Council Flynn thank you
worship I'm just going to thank uh you
on behalf of the community and I've
always joked at this table when I've
been working beside counselor Wallace
Richmond that she's been kind of my
social and artistic Muse or whatever you
would call her I've learned a lot from
her but I'm not surprisingly she she
said what I was going to say and I was
going to say it in a different way but
behind every great person like you every
great woman is a good guy and I think of
you guys and your
family it's been the team and I thank
you thank him and uh I'm not quite known
as the finance guy like the mayor is but
I would say there's not many
organizations where we get as a
community more value for the dollars we
contribute thank you councelor Flynn
councelor
lavry yes thanks your worship uh Tracy
thanks so much I uh I I'm just going to
Echo what others have said and thank you
um not only the arm and the heart but
the mind as well um you have uh provided
Direction uh you've managed from the
middle and uh taken us forward so Tracy
thank you for that I I just uh you know
we're all struck by the developments uh
in recent days and weeks here and how
your not only dedication but injecting
the importance of
inclusivity of
equity of uh embracing a range of our
citizens um is becoming more and more
important as as we go forward here and
given
the the impending dark clouds that that
are that are happening in places so I I
want to thank you for that leadership I
know you'll continue on that in the
community and uh I'm very grateful that
uh you've provided that leadership so
Tracy thank you very much for that to
chrisy thanks for your report I just
want to comment a little bit on the
solar project I I know I have been
talking I'm not sure if that came
independently i' had asked Tracy it
would be good to hear an update about
that mainly because we spend all sorts
of money and decisions on infrastructure
some of it harder most of it underground
most of it you can't see most of it it's
really hard to determine the ROI of a
project but to get this 5-year report
where uh once taken off the money
generated from the solar and taken off
the power the pottery Club Kiln
$135 a year for
electricity based on the solar panel
install that was done five years ago it
doesn't get better than that and I just
want to uh from a uh a council position
say that these it's not only a good news
story but it's great to get those
numbers over time
for some of the softer infrastructure
that we do so thanks for providing that
as well Christie look forward to uh big
shoes to fill I'm sure you will fill
them and uh look forward down the line
thank you very
much thank
you okay councelor Flynn yeah um now
moving to Christie's presentation thank
you was really good um very detailed
very succinct and I do want to say that
um in my mind the decision by astred
andu or whoever made it to have specific
advertising for um one of the Bands uh
we have one of the biggest fundraising
events coming up Bollywood um
and one of the biggest changes I've seen
in our community is our diversification
and well that it's not diversification
wrong word but you know what I mean um
but just we're a totally different I've
been here for 20 years and we are a to
totally different community and a lot of
that is because of Tracy and her team
and I'm quite confident based on your
presentation and what you've done thus
far that you're going to continue that
but I think that was a good decision to
have that specific piece because our
community has changed so much and uh is
much more diverse so thank you thank you
councelor
Flynn I think everyone's had their turn
thank you Christie for your report I
really appreciate it appreciate the time
you put in and pictures tell all the
words so thank you Tracy we will see you
both we can invite councelor ganella
back in for Council
statements your worship councelor
ganella has left okay great s like Elvis
Council statements counselors does
anyone have a statement uh councelor
Wallace Richmond first please go
ahead thank you uh I just wanted to give
you a brief update on silga as you know
uh the resolutions are wrapping up on
February 15th the community excellence
awards have been uh submitted for
consideration uh there's a very exciting
convention uh planned for merit if
you've not spent a few days there I
encourage everyone um to go the focus
will be on economic and uh Community
Development and we have an amazing um uh
keynote speaker from the group small
towns which is Making Waves all over
North America um we've
also working through a transition from
Alison Slater who's been with sua for
many years to Karen devise and that
piece is going very well and and Karen
is from Salon arm and we're working
together regularly um to get all that
training happening so it's a very
exciting time for silga on the ubcm
front the
executive uh meeting happens um in next
week in Vancouver I will be attending
and I I'm on the seminar me or sorry
their um economic and Community
Development Committee as well as the
convention committee and then an fcm um
a regional or fcm board meeting is
happening in dval in March very packed
agenda um and I'm sure it won't surprise
you to know that there's been a lot of
work on the US tariff situation there
was a big meeting with
the government ministers the Prime
Minister and big city caucus Mayors just
last Thursday and they're beginning a
series of Roundtable conversations with
with all the provincial and um uh
territorial Association uh caucuses
that'll be happening uh also at the end
of next week um and so once budget is
done I'll I'll continue to focus on on
that piece and I think it's really
important for all of us to be at the
table so if there's any you want me to
raise on our behalf or on our Region's
behalf please um you know where to find
me and I'm very grateful thank you
thank you councelor Wallace Richmond
thank you for the work you do on both
silga and ubcm looking forward to silga
in Merit this year um we will go to
councelor lingren for Council statements
thanks you worship uh moving from the
national stage to the local stage uh
just a little bit of an update from
sabnis uh hopefully you've all had a
chance to look at the model of the new
uh Eric Christmas Memorial boardwalk and
birdine platform that's now located in
the front lobby of city hall for the
next week or so um
designed and built by autof fmid and
safely encased by Quinton lingren um so
take a look and uh hopefully the
community we wanted it here uh during
the week when everybody was coming in to
pay their utility bills and hopefully
there's they have a little few dollars
left over at the end and the information
on how to donate to that project is on
the cards that are located on the table
uh the other uh report is from the
environmental advisory committee uh last
week we we had a really amazing
presentation from am and Singh uh from
home zero which is a nonprofit
organization in Veron uh they gave us a
a really um interesting presentation on
this broads scope approach that they've
taken to retrofitting older homes to
reduce greenhous gases uh it's making uh
an impact already it they've only done
11 homes as part of their pilot project
in Vernon but it's already making an
impact on reducing greenhouse gases and
helping the city Vernon reduce or reach
their
um uh Greenhouse reduction targets um
they're in the middle of expanding to a
100 homes and they will probably be
submitting a letter to us in the near
future asking us to um support their um
application to fcm for uh additional
funding for that project and I hope that
at some point in the future they make a
request to come and speak to council I
think that you'll be really impressed
with the scope of their
project thank you very much councelor
lingren and thank you to you and to
Quinton for uh for making that available
um to us the the new Eric Christmas
Boardwalk it's
exciting any other Council
statements councelor lavry please go
ahead yes thanks your worship um this is
sort of uh in previous meetings and
today as well uh just a reflection it's
a statement but it's a reflection as
well um I think more and more Community
groups uh they're looking to funders
local governments The Province the feds
to um help support them in the good work
they do and I think that's getting
Tighter and Tighter for them to do it so
therefore they're reaching out more and
more for money and what has become clear
to me especially at the regional
district is that higher levels of
government are now and I think they're
doing it way too early without enough
support but are mandating that Community
organizations have Asset Management
plans in place now I personally think
that's a leap too far for a small
community organization to do that but I
think that there's a need and I'm just
going to float this idea out here I
don't know how to actualize it at all
but there's a need for us to be figuring
out a way of how we can partner to
support community organizations in
starting that asset management process
as we are starting to do it as well so
that you don't build something 20 years
later it's falling down and then you're
starting from Ground Zero literally in
some cases to actually get it up and get
it going and and and recover so I think
it's uh uh I I'll bring this forward I
like maybe uh other counselors we could
uh work on some ideas on that but I do
think that and and perhaps there's some
training out there that I'm not aware of
but I think it' be advantageous for all
of us to put our heads together to uh
start some Community
organization uh process where groups can
start to get their heads be introduced
to and get their heads around Asset
Management thank
you thank you very much councelor lavy
are there any other statements from
counselers
today thank you thank you for all of
your work I know that you're all working
hard on your committees out there and in
the community okay we will go
to question and answer
period is there anyone who has a
question that they like to ask Council
either virtually or in person
here okay seeing none um I'll accept a
motion to return to in camera councelor
lingren counc Canon thank you all those
in favor