1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:30,749 this conference will now be recorded 2 00:00:30,759 --> 00:00:32,040 good afternoon 3 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 everyone I'd like to resume the city of 4 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Salmon Arm regular council meeting of 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Monday February the 6 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,680 10th like to begin by acknowledging that 7 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,000 we're Gathering here on the traditional 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 territory of the shet MC people with 9 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,000 whom we share these lands and where we 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,510 live and we work 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,760 together there was a tragedy in our 12 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,120 community this weekend 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,469 a very difficult 14 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:08,040 one a young man walking across a 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,390 lake fell through the 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,400 ice the dive team from Vancouver is 17 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,759 presently on a recovery Mission out in 18 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:24,950 the 19 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,910 lake we are thinking of his 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,759 family we're thinking of his 21 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:35,399 friends people surrounding 22 00:01:35,399 --> 00:01:38,399 him the RCMP the search and 23 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:41,600 rescue fire department 24 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,880 personnel that were on hand for this 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 very difficult 26 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:50,910 situation it's unconscionable to 27 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:57,789 me losing a son in that 28 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:00,799 way so we will support in the best way 29 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,479 that we 30 00:02:02,479 --> 00:02:06,719 can the families that are involved and I 31 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:10,550 know it touches the whole 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Community special thanks to staff 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,800 sergeant Simon 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Scott and his communication with the 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 city with our CAO with our human 36 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,830 resources personnel 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,599 here we'll update you um as we hear 38 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:34,640 here and hopefully um the recovery 39 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,080 Mission will be 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,120 successful and provide the family with 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,720 just any kind of uh of hope so I'm very 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:53,270 sorry to report 43 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,640 that we have a an agenda that's uh been 44 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:00,200 presented to us I'll accept accept a 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,640 motion to adopt that agenda councelor 46 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:06,599 canilla councelor Canon thank you all 47 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:10,229 those in 48 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:13,400 favor passes 49 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,519 unanimously counselor's disclosure of 50 00:03:16,519 --> 00:03:18,720 interest if you have any disclosure of 51 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,159 interest on any of the regular council 52 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:27,309 meeting agenda items please indicate 53 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:30,760 so councelor canala please go ahead 54 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,990 item 55 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,439 9.3 item 9.3 thank 56 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:40,040 you in regards to the leas of my 57 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 employer with the cityne property that 58 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,040 we have our offices on Council you put 59 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,200 your down of 60 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,640 course I'm 61 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,000 back uh I'll repeat uh 9.3 Deputy um the 62 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,280 deputy corporate officer report 63 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,000 regarding the um lease agreement with 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,599 the the property that my employer is 65 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,840 using presently and 14.1 the 66 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,280 presentation with which I'm sad to miss 67 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 the samon arm Arts Center uh and art 68 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,879 gallery the my employer the FK music 69 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,680 Society works with um this organization 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,479 uh and partners and sponsors the wow 71 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:22,919 event so I'll be stepping up for that 72 00:04:22,919 --> 00:04:24,160 thank you councelor 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,710 ganella any further disclosures from 74 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,960 counselors seeing none we'll go to 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,479 confirmation of minutes of the regular 76 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:35,160 council meeting of January the 27th I 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,000 would take virtual mover and seconder if 78 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,919 there are there councelor lavry thank 79 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:41,720 you for the move move of that 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,919 motion councelor Wallace Richman would 81 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:48,390 second any additions to dels to those 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,520 minutes see none I'll call a question 83 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,270 all those in 84 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,759 favor any business 85 00:04:56,759 --> 00:04:58,680 arising thank you that passes 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,479 unanimously 87 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:03,000 we have three committee reports again 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,759 counselors we don't need to move the 89 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:06,479 minutes but I will go through each one 90 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:09,039 of them and give you time if you wish to 91 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:12,479 bring forward any item first 7.1 is the 92 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,560 social impact advisory committee meeting 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:22,309 minutes of January the 24th for your 94 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:25,000 information second set is the Greenways 95 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,120 liaison committee meeting minutes of 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,390 January the 23rd 97 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,680 yes councelor labry as chair of that 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,160 committee go ahead yeah thanks your 99 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,919 worship I just uh I won't get into in 100 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:41,039 detail but there's the a long list of uh 101 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:43,720 spreadsheets and tables of uh work 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,720 completed in 2024 what's on the 2025 103 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,199 project update uh maintenance budget 104 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:53,759 essentially good news all around uh 105 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:57,520 including developments uh moving forward 106 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,080 uh legal developments moving forward 107 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,759 permitting uh work on with the school 108 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,759 district as well so all good there um I 109 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:07,360 just wanted to highlight besides when 110 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 you look at those spreadsheets and uh 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,120 followed out it's there's money that's 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,800 put in by 113 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,319 Partners incline stuff that's donated 114 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:20,240 and the total picture is leveraged 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,319 funding going forward to actually do 116 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:26,000 things um part of that Leverage is in 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,120 kind funding and I would just like to 118 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,039 note that uh in kind work from Brown 119 00:06:32,039 --> 00:06:35,240 Johnson uh it's absolutely amazing and 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,520 helps the city move forward in in their 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,000 Trails as well as mrdt 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,800 contributions uh because mrdt recognizes 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,240 that our trail system or connectivity is 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,880 uh uh an attraction for tourism as well 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,440 is a great thing to do so I'll just 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,919 leave it there um but just to point out 127 00:06:54,919 --> 00:07:00,440 that uh um that in kind stuff 128 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 the contributions are they come from all 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,039 over the community thank 130 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:07,960 you thank you councelor labry councelor 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,639 ganella did you wish to speak to those 132 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:13,599 minutes thank you worship um I'd like to 133 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:15,560 speak to the community Heritage 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,919 committee reports okay let's go to that 135 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:21,599 one that's 7.3 yes please yes thank you 136 00:07:21,599 --> 00:07:23,800 um that we're going into the month of 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,440 February and at the end of the month we 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,919 have Heritage week and the meeting on 139 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:32,759 the 24th we're hoping to announce the 140 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,560 Heritage uh a winners as we do annually 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,240 during a regular council meeting great 142 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,479 thank you look forward to that thank 143 00:07:41,479 --> 00:07:44,039 you any other business arising from 144 00:07:44,039 --> 00:07:46,000 those 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,639 minutes okay we'll go to uh item eight 146 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:50,240 the Columbia Sho shop Regional District 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,080 update councelor Flynn if you have 148 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,759 something to share thank you thank you 149 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:55,199 we don't have a written report because 150 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:59,599 the board meeting is next Thursday but I 151 00:07:59,599 --> 00:08:02,960 think it's next Thursday but um the 152 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,000 budget Committee of the whole meeting 153 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,919 was on January 30th that was budget one 154 00:08:08,919 --> 00:08:10,199 kind of like what we're doing on 155 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:14,840 Wednesday budget one uh staff based on 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,759 discussion and direction from uh the 157 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:21,080 directors has taken budget one back and 158 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,479 is working on it um I don't know if uh 159 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:26,120 director labry had planned to provide 160 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,720 many details um I think it might be 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,199 better to wait for budget too but due to 162 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:32,719 some of the decisions we've made and 163 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:34,599 have been made uh there will be a 164 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:37,640 decrease in our requisition overall um 165 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,760 but the uh biggest area once again is 166 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,760 reserves for closures of 167 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,760 landfills and it's a significant 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,279 unfunded 169 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:55,240 liability it's very deep conversation 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,560 and director lavry and I talked about 171 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:00,279 whether we should invite 172 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,920 um Ben Van Nostrand present something to 173 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Council on some of the details about 174 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,959 what landfill closures means so I will 175 00:09:09,959 --> 00:09:12,560 economically and all of those things so 176 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,360 there is a solid waste review program 177 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,920 review and strategic plan review going 178 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,200 on it's almost as detailed if not as 179 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,040 detailed as our ocp review um and there 180 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,480 is a committee working on that but um 181 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,560 I'm just trying to gauge the desire of 182 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,040 council to hear about our biggest cost 183 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,600 item that we pay for at the csrd and to 184 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,600 get information from Mr Vin ostrand or 185 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,279 do you trust your two 186 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,120 directors I could comment on that uh 187 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,839 councelor Flynn I absolutely trust our 188 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:53,959 directors however I would like Mr van 189 00:09:53,959 --> 00:09:56,120 nostran to come and talk to 190 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,440 us I want to understand why the 191 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,640 that replacement budget is so aggressive 192 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,680 I mean the jump in this year's csrd 193 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:10,000 requisition on that budget line is 194 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,320 enormous and uh I would like to 195 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,040 understand it better so if Mr van 196 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,079 nostran is able to come and speak to us 197 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:19,200 I think it would be good for all of 198 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,320 council to hear it firsthand okay thank 199 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,200 you and I'm glad to hear your trust of 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,760 your two directors or counselors is not 201 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,399 predicated on the budget or Solid Waste 202 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,800 but um do you think we would want to try 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,200 to get him here for the planning meeting 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,480 next 205 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Tuesday um I'll leave that between you 206 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,240 and the CFO or CEO um for a later 207 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,910 discussion okay thank you councelor 208 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,040 lavry thanks your worship and thanks to 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,920 councelor Finn for bringing this up um 210 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,760 I'm not sure when is best for uh for Ben 211 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,920 to come I think that again the final 212 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,440 vote on the budget will not be until 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 March uh the next committee that hold is 214 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,600 the end of February so there is a bit of 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,880 time there just as's a preview and the 216 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Regional District board is having this 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 discussion there is no doubt that this 218 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 is a significantly 219 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,399 underfunded 220 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:22,800 um line item based on changing 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,320 expectations from the province of best 222 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,480 practice for closing landfills and we're 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,839 in this situation 224 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:33,680 because people are including myself of 225 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:35,480 everything we throw 226 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,320 away and nobody's paid a lot of 227 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,320 attention not to the day-to-day 228 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,399 operations but the closure of it so the 229 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:46,760 in the you're right your worship 230 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,320 significant increases over the next five 231 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 years projected 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,720 out additional increases every year 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,360 which are not even going to scratch the 234 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,880 surface of getting to even a portion of 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,920 the reserve needed the uh discussion at 236 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,760 the regional district table has been uh 237 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,000 and there trade-offs no matter what you 238 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 do if you up the fees for those who are 239 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,480 dumping that discourages people to dump 240 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,560 illegally so it's a of it's an alive 241 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:18,800 vibrant conversation I think Ben can 242 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,920 talk about those options um I think that 243 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,399 uh I'd leave it to uh councelor Flynn 244 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:27,880 the vice chair to work that out I don't 245 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,199 think we personally I don't think we 246 00:12:29,199 --> 00:12:31,800 need it right away um it's going to be 247 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,880 part of the 248 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,959 requisition um and it it' be I think it' 249 00:12:35,959 --> 00:12:37,720 be highly informative for this table to 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,639 have their their heads around the 251 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:42,920 absolute dilemma of how to even 252 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,199 partially fund this reserve for what's 253 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:48,600 anticipated down the line so uh I'd 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,279 encourage us to do it thank you great 255 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:52,680 thank you councelor labry councelor 256 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:54,920 Flynn one more comment yeah just a quick 257 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,519 consensus does do we feel it would be a 258 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:00,199 better thing to do at a planning meeting 259 00:13:00,199 --> 00:13:01,800 or a council meeting because that'll 260 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,399 help me and I do agree with councelor 261 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:05,320 lavry it's not necessarily as urgent as 262 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,680 next Tuesday because the next this 263 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,639 budget two for csrd is at the end of 264 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:13,440 February and the approval of the budget 265 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,720 is March um so and I do want to thank in 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,959 advance councelor lingren who's going to 267 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:21,959 attend budget two session because of my 268 00:13:21,959 --> 00:13:24,000 absence so thank you um chief 269 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,199 administrative officer um that would fit 270 00:13:27,199 --> 00:13:29,959 into a planning meeting sometime uh um 271 00:13:29,959 --> 00:13:31,600 when councelor Flynn and yourself thinks 272 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,959 that it might fit would that be okay to 273 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:35,760 do it that way absolutely your worship 274 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,600 thank you very much thank 275 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,680 you okay let's move forward then um to 276 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,279 staff reports uh 9.1 as the Chief 277 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:47,079 Financial Officer parcel tax roll over 278 00:13:47,079 --> 00:13:50,240 roll review panel there is a motion if I 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,880 can have a mover into second or it's to 280 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,480 set a date for that thank you councelor 281 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,839 lingren councelor ganella I'll ask our 282 00:13:55,839 --> 00:13:58,320 Chief Financial Officer if he wishes to 283 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,720 um say more than uh the motion describes 284 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,639 there uh Drew your your worship it's 285 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,000 just the standard uh personal tax to 286 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,639 authenticate the role that happens every 287 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,160 year as described in the motion if 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,880 there's any questions I'm available 289 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,759 great thank you councel has any 290 00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:18,910 questions around that 291 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,959 motion okay I'll call the question all 292 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:30,870 those in favor 293 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,279 councelor Wallace Richmond I'm just 294 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:33,720 waiting for your vote there it is thank 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,880 you that passes unanimously we'll go to 296 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,399 9.2 chief administrative officer ubcm 297 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:45,590 and silga meeting 298 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,399 expenses your worship my apologies there 299 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:51,320 is one minor correction for this motion 300 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,920 okay um instead of travel to ubcm and 301 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 silga it is ubcm and 302 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,759 fcm yeah thank you 303 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:01,079 um councelor Flynn you're willing to 304 00:15:01,079 --> 00:15:04,279 move that motion I am second councelor 305 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:06,440 ganella thank you chief administrative 306 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,839 officer speaking to the 307 00:15:08,839 --> 00:15:12,279 motion thank you worship um this is 308 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:16,000 intended just to allow staff to make 309 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,040 travel Arrangements on behalf of 310 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,560 councelor Wallace Richmond and then seek 311 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,079 reimbursement from ubcm and fcm there is 312 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:27,639 no cost to the city the city does 313 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:31,040 um up front pay for the room but seeks 314 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,600 reimbursement so there is no um no net 315 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,040 impact to the city thank you questions 316 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,360 or comments from Council councelor Canon 317 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,639 thank you just a quick question um 318 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:47,199 looking at this this is for the travel 319 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:52,120 arrangements and is there pdms for that 320 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,560 are in here too that are administrated 321 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,600 through ubcm and fcm the chief 322 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,319 administrative officer 323 00:16:00,319 --> 00:16:02,360 my apologies your worship I didn't hear 324 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,959 the end of what um councelor Canon said 325 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:07,279 go go ahead councelor Canon if you want 326 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:09,639 to repeat the question does this include 327 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:13,000 uh pums that 328 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,759 are that councelor Wallace richm would 329 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,759 get through ubcm and 330 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:21,199 fcm chief administrative officer through 331 00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:24,319 your worship no this is just for the 332 00:16:24,319 --> 00:16:28,079 accommodation piece so just travel and 333 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:31,800 hotels just the hotel okay and then uh 334 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,319 the city seeks reimbursement so the 335 00:16:34,319 --> 00:16:37,480 executive assistant will book the room 336 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,800 and and then we'll put in the um 337 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,240 submission for the 338 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,720 claim okay can I just I just have one 339 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,440 more question yeah go ahead no so I know 340 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,360 so this is the travel Arrangement so 341 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,279 when councelor Wallace Richmond goes to 342 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,560 ubcm and fcm in her positions that she 343 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,079 holds does she get per DMs 344 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:03,519 then from the city and only the city or 345 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,360 does she get it from those 346 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:08,480 groups I see councelor Wallace Richmond 347 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,199 is willing to comment as well so can I 348 00:17:10,199 --> 00:17:12,280 go your yeah councelor Wallace Richmond 349 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,720 please go ahead uh thank you your 350 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,679 worship I appreciate the work the staff 351 00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:19,039 does to help me with these bookings 352 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:21,720 often these uh meetings are organized 353 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,720 months in 354 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 advance um and 355 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,880 many meetings being organized months in 356 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,400 advance means quite a few bookings and 357 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,960 um their help is much appreciated the 358 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,840 ubcm board pays its 359 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,280 own uh per DMS and reimburses any travel 360 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,679 the city's role in ubcm is strictly to 361 00:17:44,679 --> 00:17:46,640 book the hotel room ahead of time and 362 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,600 then seek reimbursement directly from 363 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,080 ubcm for fcm there is a small 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,760 communities travel fund uh my 365 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,480 understanding is that fund pays for 366 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,159 travel and accommodation for any upcm 367 00:17:59,159 --> 00:18:02,760 board meeting uh but not fcm 368 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,640 convention um and ubcm doesn't pay for 369 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,080 my convention time either so there are 370 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,640 uh there's about uh I would say up to 371 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,120 five days of per dm with fcm work maybe 372 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:21,280 a few more that are covered by the city 373 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,960 my understanding is the small Community 374 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,200 Fund may not actually cover that but I'm 375 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,159 I'm I'm not aware of the specific detail 376 00:18:29,159 --> 00:18:31,400 of the only that I can only use the 377 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,679 small communities fund for fcm travel 378 00:18:34,679 --> 00:18:36,559 and accommodation for board meetings and 379 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:39,270 nothing 380 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,720 else y thank you councelor Canada do you 381 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,120 have any any other questions or comments 382 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:45,720 you want to 383 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:52,000 make so I so this motion is for ubcm and 384 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,039 fcm not silga and so my understanding is 385 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:59,280 through you your worship to counselor 386 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Wallace Richmond you only get you get 387 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,120 the pums when you're there through the 388 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:05,880 city of Salmon 389 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,799 Arm correct only for let's just let's 390 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:13,120 just go back to the motion so the motion 391 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,280 is to have staff manage the 392 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,679 accommodation Arrangements in advance 393 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:20,880 for ubcm and fcm that's the motion that 394 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,559 we're talking about right now so if 395 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:24,080 there's further questions outside that 396 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,000 motion certainly we could handle it but 397 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,880 let's handle a motion first so councelor 398 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,400 do you have further comments around the 399 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,440 motion piece or would or would would 400 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,200 that information affect your vote on the 401 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280 motion no it won't I would just reading 402 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,799 the background and trying to get my head 403 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,720 wrapped around exactly what it all means 404 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,120 so I'll ask later your worship okay 405 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,840 thank you other speakers to the motion 406 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,039 councelor Flynn speaking to the motion I 407 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:54,360 will vote in support it's a zero impact 408 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,360 to the community it provides the 409 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,960 community with value and I guess we 410 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,520 shouldn't say there's no cost because 411 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,400 there's the staff time to do it but 412 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,280 that's minimal so I will vote in support 413 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,039 of the motion and if we discuss the 414 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:09,880 other issue further I will comment on 415 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,760 that okay thank you yeah I will allow a 416 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,720 discussion after this motion if uh a 417 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,000 councelor wishes to bring it up um 418 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,039 councelor Ling speaking to the motion 419 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,200 yeah is there a cost savings if the city 420 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,840 does the booking rather than councelor 421 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,799 Wallace Richmond booking her own 422 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:27,600 accommodation chief administrative 423 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,679 officer three your worship uh the city 424 00:20:30,679 --> 00:20:33,240 doesn't have any preferential rates but 425 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,960 it is um an assistance to councelor well 426 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,360 searchman due to the fact that it is 427 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,000 time consuming to make these 428 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,159 arrangements and there's lots of them so 429 00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:45,640 we have administrative staff that we can 430 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,559 help out with that okay 431 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,640 thanks are there any other speakers to 432 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,039 the 433 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:54,240 motion seean I'll call a question all 434 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,950 those in favor 435 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,559 that passes unanimously councelor Canon 436 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:03,440 can I come back to you now if you have 437 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,799 further questions around the report if 438 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:07,960 you just press your button and I'll get 439 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,039 your mic on for you yeah it was just I 440 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:11,679 was just 441 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:15,080 curious if counselor Wallace Richman 442 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,029 gets paid per 443 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,159 DMS through 444 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:24,760 fcm or the 445 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,120 city and also for ubcm if she gets pums 446 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:34,520 paid through ubcm or the city daily pums 447 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,559 and then while we have the typo up there 448 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:39,440 I was curious about silga also if they 449 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320 pay per Dums when she attends in 450 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,159 official capacity just curious got you 451 00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:47,720 councelor Wallace Richman can I pass the 452 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,240 microphone over to you once more yes of 453 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,400 course uh thank you important that we 454 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,440 understand how this works I receive a 455 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,039 prum for every day I'm away uh 456 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:03,080 on behalf of as an elected uh sound 457 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440 armed counselor on behalf of silga ubcm 458 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,559 and fcm silga 459 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,799 pays uh its per DMS directly to its 460 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,200 directors ubcm pays its per DMS directly 461 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,919 to its directors and 462 00:22:18,919 --> 00:22:24,400 fcm uh fcm does not pay its directors to 463 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,279 attend meetings but the province of BC 464 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,960 through ubcm has set up a small 465 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,559 communities travel fund specifically to 466 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,240 allow for small communities to be 467 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,120 represented at the fcm board and any 468 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,840 expense related to my time there on at a 469 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,200 board meeting uh travel accommodation 470 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,159 and and per DMS as I understand it is 471 00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:51,840 reimbursed to uh the city from the fcm 472 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,039 small communities travel fund run 473 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:57,640 through ubcm it's very complicated but 474 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,080 it was a wise decision of ubcm to make 475 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080 sure that small communities could also 476 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,480 play a role on that uh at that National 477 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,159 table and I'm grateful for uh for that 478 00:23:09,159 --> 00:23:13,000 fund's existence I do need specific 479 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,360 Clarity around whether they 480 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,960 reimburse 481 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:23,960 um P DMS uh but because I don't process 482 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,279 the uh the reimbursements I I I wouldn't 483 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,840 be able to tell you I do charged I do um 484 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,080 submit them though counc Canon do you 485 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080 have further query there so you submit 486 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,880 your PDM 487 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600 to whichever affiliation you're with so 488 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,279 it has zero cost to the city for pdms I 489 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:45,880 didn't realize that I thought maybe the 490 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,360 city paid the prum at at most it would 491 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,640 be some it would be fcm 492 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,480 pums but fcm is only two meetings a year 493 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,240 well that's great because it's a good 494 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,080 value value having you representing 495 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,760 those those boards so awesome thank you 496 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,480 thank you for the clarification C Flyn 497 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,919 did you want to speak I was just going 498 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:10,799 to clarify ubcm but because I sat on 499 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,559 that through being president of silga 500 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:15,400 and all those pdms are paid separately 501 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400 the fcm one is confusing and has been a 502 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,640 discussion point at the csrd table um 503 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,760 because there's a chance that there 504 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,520 might be a pum or two days in a year 505 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,279 charged to the csrd when director Martin 506 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:32,799 was on 507 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,360 fcm if we have to deal with that I think 508 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,559 we should because I fully would support 509 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,640 it thank you very much I think it was 510 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,120 just a matter of information so 511 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,600 appreciate the discussion there we will 512 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,919 go to 513 00:24:44,919 --> 00:24:48,000 9.3 um councelor ganel I think you're 514 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:54,990 leaving for that one 515 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,320 okay so item 516 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,600 9.3 Deputy corporate officer is going to 517 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,480 speak about the lease of 5413 Street 518 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,360 Southwest seminar folk music Society 519 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,760 there is a motion um I'd like to get on 520 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,080 the floor if I could have a move in a 521 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,799 second councelor Canon would move and 522 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:16,720 councelor Flynn would second thank you 523 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,440 um I'll ask our Deputy um corporate 524 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,720 officer to speak to the 525 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,880 report thank you your worship the salar 526 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,320 folk music Society has been occupying 527 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,600 the building at 5413 Street Southwest 528 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,520 since 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,440 2015 they've been using it as the office 530 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,039 for um the folk music Society roots and 531 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,679 blues um they've made some significant 532 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:43,320 improvements to the building over the 533 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,720 years and they've expressed an interest 534 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,240 in continuing to occupy that spot and 535 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,440 have requested an additional five-year 536 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,480 lease at a nominal 537 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,960 rate thank you very much for that and 538 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,919 for the report counselors I'll open up 539 00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,679 to you if you have any questions of Miss 540 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:04,389 Pont or comments she wish to 541 00:26:04,399 --> 00:26:06,799 make seeing none I will call a question 542 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:11,750 all those in 543 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,440 favor that passes unanimously thank you 544 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:30,870 we can invite councelor ganella back in 545 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,039 I bet he thought we were going to be 546 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:36,070 longer than 547 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:42,230 that he was leaving for 20 548 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,399 minutes we work fast without you 549 00:26:44,399 --> 00:26:47,389 councelor 550 00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:51,159 ganella welcome back okay we will go to 551 00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:53,360 item 94 director of engineering Public 552 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,919 Works climate resilient plan steering 553 00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:57,480 committee there is a motion for 554 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399 consideration I could have a mover and a 555 00:26:59,399 --> 00:27:01,480 seconder councelor linger would move 556 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,559 that counc canel would second thank you 557 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,120 I'll ask our director of engineering and 558 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,039 Public Works to speak to the part thank 559 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,200 you worship so on January 13th of this 560 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,840 year Council approved the development of 561 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,279 the climate action resiliency plan and 562 00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:18,760 in accordance with the RFP the in 563 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,159 preparation of the CRP requires the 564 00:27:21,159 --> 00:27:22,960 formation of a climate resiliency 565 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,279 steering committee to provide local 566 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:28,000 expertise guidance strategic Direction 567 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,320 um 568 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,919 for the development and support and 569 00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:34,080 influence its implementation within the 570 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960 community the attached terms of 571 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,520 reference are outline the Mandate scope 572 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320 of the members of this steering 573 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,039 committee which staff are is proposing 574 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,760 to consist of 22 members formed from a 575 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,159 combination of external organizations 576 00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:51,000 City committees and citizens at 577 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,200 large um Alternatives and implications 578 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,799 should Council not choose to form this 579 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,799 climate resiliency steering committee 580 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:01,279 staff would will proceed with the 581 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,919 development of a working group uh made 582 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,559 up of City staff csrd staff and in 583 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,600 consultation with First Nation 584 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,279 Representatives um the outcomes would 585 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,840 then be forwarded to these organizations 586 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,080 uh for review and feedback um ultimately 587 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,120 Staff feel that this is a uh not the 588 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,159 best way to go about it um however that 589 00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:26,399 is an option um and communication upon 590 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:28,120 Council approval of formation of this 591 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,080 steering committee staff would contact 592 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,120 organizations uh proposed in the terms 593 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,080 of reference to request participation 594 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080 and in nominating members and staff will 595 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,760 also advertise for the recruitment of 596 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,360 three um citizens at large um this 597 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 resulting list uh will be reported back 598 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 to council for formal review and 599 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360 appointments great thank you very much 600 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,919 um the director of engineeri and public 601 00:28:52,919 --> 00:28:55,200 works councelors I'll open it up to you 602 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,080 to comments or questions councelor 603 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,720 lingren 604 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,200 thanks your worship um yeah I'm uh um in 605 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440 principle uh in favor of having a 606 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,559 steering committee Vernon has had a 607 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,399 and uh climate ambassadors since they 608 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:14,559 instituted their plan A couple of years 609 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,000 ago and I think that that's helped it be 610 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,679 very successful 611 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:24,240 I'm uh curious about the terms of 612 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 reference um the city doesn't seem to 613 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,039 have a seat on the steering committee is 614 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,640 that just implied that somebody from the 615 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,279 city would chair it or how does that 616 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,679 work thank you I I see under the 617 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:40,320 procedures that it says the crpc will be 618 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,480 chaired by the consultant um but I pass 619 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,760 your question on to the director of 620 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 engineering and Public Works City it 621 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120 would be chaired by the consultant and 622 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240 there would be City staff attending the 623 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,240 meetings um but really we're looking for 624 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320 feedback from this committee and then 625 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,399 there's still a a working committee made 626 00:29:57,399 --> 00:30:01,399 up of the csrd staff and as well as 627 00:30:01,399 --> 00:30:02,799 First Nation so there is a working 628 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,120 committee as well good councelor lingam 629 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,039 please continue yeah so would the city 630 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:08,880 have a voice but no 631 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,760 vote uh if motions were to come forward 632 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,000 from this steering committee a director 633 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,399 of engineer and Public Works your 634 00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:19,640 worship um this this steering committee 635 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,200 is is essentially a it's not for 636 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,519 creating content is for review and so 637 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:25,799 any comments would go back to the 638 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,640 working committee and be reviewed with 639 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,039 the cons consultant again and then come 640 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,760 forward to council if anything was 641 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,799 required okay that makes sense um just 642 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:39,559 one uh typo I think and it's probably a 643 00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,279 um anyway just an oversight in the terms 644 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,919 of reference the Salmon Arm Bay nature 645 00:30:44,919 --> 00:30:47,360 enhancement Society we're missing the 646 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,039 word enhancement 647 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,640 so thank you thank you for that uh 648 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,399 councelor lingren counselor lavy please 649 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,279 go 650 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,080 ahead yeah thanks your thanks the staff 651 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,200 uh good good good things happen to those 652 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,279 who wait and it's great to see this uh 653 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,760 being here in a timely matter I um I 654 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,200 would just emphasize the nature of a 655 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,080 steering committee I think you worship 656 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200 have already done it we've seen the role 657 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,679 of a steering committee and in the ocp 658 00:31:14,679 --> 00:31:19,200 process it's uh it it's to ensure that 659 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,159 the work that's being done is within the 660 00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:25,000 guidelines of uh the input that's there 661 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,919 I have one question your worship through 662 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:30,360 you to staff and that's about membership 663 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,679 um I don't 664 00:31:32,679 --> 00:31:36,480 see and 22 members is a pretty healthy 665 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,120 table um I don't 666 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,919 see membership from First Nations 667 00:31:42,919 --> 00:31:44,600 indigenous 668 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760 community and I know that on the uh 669 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,760 active Transportation task force we were 670 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,440 21e worship maybe at a at a at a time um 671 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,679 we did send out invitations sometimes 672 00:31:56,679 --> 00:31:59,600 not all members could make it but um we 673 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,639 did have unless I've missed it but I I 674 00:32:01,639 --> 00:32:03,559 don't see it on the list there and I 675 00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,679 think it's uh I was going to say worth 676 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:07,240 considering but I think it's more than 677 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,600 worth considering I think the 678 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,720 invitations would need to go 679 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,919 out I'll pass that to the director of 680 00:32:12,919 --> 00:32:15,159 engineering public works if he has any 681 00:32:15,159 --> 00:32:18,159 comments um I appreciate the comments uh 682 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:20,840 in regards to the steering committee um 683 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,600 the working group would have uh First 684 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840 Nations representation on that group as 685 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,960 well so we are working to try and find 686 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960 out who would be available to attend the 687 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000 working group meetings so but we will 688 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,279 consider the steering committee as 689 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,120 well thank you councelor lavry just 690 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,799 before I go to the next speaker did you 691 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,000 have anything else you'd like to share 692 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,840 or say yeah um no I I think 693 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480 um thanks for that response 694 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,639 I I think it I would suggest it needs to 695 00:32:51,639 --> 00:32:53,919 be more than considered I I would to 696 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:57,240 consider I think that the uh I think is 697 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,720 important to 698 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,080 issue uh a request along the same 699 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,720 process that uh is there um and uh to do 700 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000 and and to have done that and then the 701 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,799 the determination of participation uh to 702 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,360 that invitation is then within uh other 703 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,480 communities thank you thank you 704 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000 councelor Flynn please press your button 705 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,799 sorry thank you worship um on the last 706 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,159 page of the terms of reference it says 707 00:33:27,159 --> 00:33:30,600 the C R PSC is unlikely to have any to 708 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,360 make any decisions as their main rol is 709 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,919 to provide advice and expertise for 710 00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:36,519 consideration and improving the content 711 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,799 and they'll make its decision making by 712 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,279 consensus um where everything has to be 713 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,399 unanimously agreed to so I guess my 714 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:47,960 first comment was I can't imagine a 22 715 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,720 person 716 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 committee having to make unanimous 717 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,200 consensus 718 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960 decisions um I also can't imagine adding 719 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,039 more people to the 22 person committee 720 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,519 so I guess I'm not really understanding 721 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,080 the difference and they're not making 722 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,760 decisions so I'm not really 723 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,240 understanding what the role of this 724 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,560 group is compared to the working group 725 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,200 because I wasn't intimately involved 726 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,560 with the ocp process so um I'm concerned 727 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,480 about the size of the committee I'm 728 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440 concerned about the comment that it's 729 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,280 got to be consensus decision making 730 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,159 because that could be or unanimous could 731 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,359 be very difficult and might stifle good 732 00:34:26,359 --> 00:34:28,240 conversation um 733 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,800 but I don't know what decisions they 734 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,919 will be making because it says they're 735 00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,480 not a decision-making group so I've got 736 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,560 all kinds of questions if others feel 737 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,119 this is the way to go I support it but I 738 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,159 haven't had much success with 22 person 739 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:43,599 groups or 740 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,599 bigger what I can say to you councelor 741 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:48,440 Flynn is I can only talk about my 742 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,040 experience with the steering committee 743 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,800 and the official community plan and I 744 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,119 think it sort of parallels this and with 745 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:55,520 the same wording the steering committee 746 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040 and our steering committee for the 747 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,920 official commune plan I kind of went 748 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,400 into it with um I wondered as well 749 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,480 because there it's a big committee 750 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,839 there's about 20 people on it but what I 751 00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:08,640 can say is it worked extremely well um 752 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,760 and I anticipate that this will 753 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,920 too um and the reason it worked well was 754 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,720 because each of the members understood 755 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,520 what their role was and their role was 756 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,560 not to um bring their bias of content to 757 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,480 the official community plan but rather 758 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,839 to take in the information which is what 759 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:28,000 this group will do and make sure that 760 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,040 the information is reflected um that is 761 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,079 being considered by the working 762 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:36,920 committee so it's kind of they take the 763 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359 information they make sure that what's 764 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:41,200 being said is reflected in the in 765 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,720 information that goes to the working 766 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,200 committee uh we also worked on a 767 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,800 consensus basis and consensus and 768 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,839 unanimous aren't quite parallel um there 769 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:53,720 was some give and take for sure on the 770 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,760 ocp steering committee but because 771 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640 everyone understood what their role was 772 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,760 um as as it became apparent if I was the 773 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,200 only person out on on thinking that that 774 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,319 maybe shouldn't go in there the 775 00:36:06,319 --> 00:36:08,640 consensus piece came about and you know 776 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,760 people would leave that and so there was 777 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,920 some give and take so it work there um I 778 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,560 know it's a lot of people on a committee 779 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,800 but it's hard to leave any of those 780 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,880 groups out so um that will be my comment 781 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,920 there okay and then for 782 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,040 clarity like the ocp which we play a 783 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,920 bigger role as Council I think but 784 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,160 nothing this committee doesn't make 785 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,760 decisions without it coming back to 786 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,880 council so I'll just ask the director of 787 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,200 engineering Public Works my understand 788 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,480 as the working committee would then 789 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,800 bring any any uh recommendations to 790 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,359 council you're correct your worship this 791 00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:46,400 this is um the information the 792 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,599 discussion that comes back from the 793 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,560 steering committee would go through the 794 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,480 working group uh in consultation with 795 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,599 the consultant and then that would come 796 00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:58,040 back to council okay thank you 797 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,800 councelor lingren um I'm gon to try this 798 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,640 button and see if it lights up your it 799 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,319 did okay oh it sorry press it again 800 00:37:06,319 --> 00:37:09,349 councelor 801 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:13,160 lingren all right please go ahead thanks 802 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,839 um just a comment about the uh three 803 00:37:16,839 --> 00:37:18,880 citizens at large it says that includes 804 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,000 one youth representative and one senior 805 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,040 representative and I would like to make 806 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,800 a motion to change that and then I'll 807 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,599 speak to that and my motion would be 808 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,400 that one includes a youth under 18 and 809 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,190 one person is under the age of 810 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,720 30 okay sorry I just want to understand 811 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,640 your um 812 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200 your Amendment again I would like to 813 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,800 remove the piece that says that includes 814 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,920 one youth representative and one senior 815 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,040 representative and replace it with one 816 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,000 youth under 18 and one youth or one uh I 817 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,520 don't know what we call them young adult 818 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,599 under the age of 30 okay understand is 819 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,870 there a seconder to that 820 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960 Amendment um if you want more 821 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,190 information you can second 822 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,880 it thank you seconded by councelor 823 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,119 ganella please speak to your Amendment 824 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,040 councelor lingren trying to follow the 825 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,880 process here um so it's my experience 826 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319 from uh chairing and participating in 827 00:38:25,319 --> 00:38:26,760 many of the Committees that the city is 828 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040 involved in the nonprofits and 829 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,319 organizations around town that many many 830 00:38:31,319 --> 00:38:32,839 of the people that have the time and 831 00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:36,680 money and uh free time to uh participate 832 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920 in these are well over the age of 60 and 833 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000 it would be my assumption that we are 834 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,599 not going to have any problem getting 835 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,119 representation from senior citizens or 836 00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:48,440 people over the age of 60 and I hesitate 837 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,800 to use senior citizens because that 838 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400 includes me uh in that group um my 839 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,079 concern is that it's more difficult to 840 00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,720 get representation from uh high school 841 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,400 students and people in their 20s and I 842 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,599 think that they have a very valuable 843 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,079 perspective that may not be represented 844 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,319 by any of these other groups in town and 845 00:39:10,319 --> 00:39:12,040 I think it's really important that we 846 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480 include their 847 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,520 voice thank you um further speakers to 848 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,520 the 849 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,880 amendment councelor ganella then 850 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,119 councelor Wallis 851 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,920 Richmond uh thank you for the um the 852 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,760 opportunity to speak on the amendment I 853 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,640 just want to have a question to 854 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,040 regarding the motion are we now leaving 855 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480 out and one senior representative is 856 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,160 that's the intention yes the in Brackets 857 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000 piece would be left out and instead it 858 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,640 would say that includes one under 18 859 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,119 person and one under 30 person I I sort 860 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:48,160 of in a way I have to uh reject that in 861 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,040 my own opinion is for the fact of a bit 862 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,119 of aism on that but I do I what I did 863 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,880 support was one under 18 specifying then 864 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200 one under 30 I can totally live with but 865 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480 in the sense of just showing a sense of 866 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,280 inclusion I have a problem with us 867 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,640 suddenly saying you removing that part 868 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,960 of the part that's a senior although we 869 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,480 do have a high frequency of involvement 870 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,520 I just think just as an optical I would 871 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,880 I have a problem with that thank you 872 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,720 councelor ganella um okay so councelor w 873 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,119 Richman you're not speaking on the 874 00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:19,560 amendment councelor Flyn did you want to 875 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,359 speak on the amendment yeah okay please 876 00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:23,000 go ahead I will not support the 877 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000 amendment because I feel we are pigeon H 878 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,720 holding and assuming and I randomly 879 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,839 picking 30 why wouldn't it be under 40 880 00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:34,960 because honestly the 30 to 40 age band 881 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,880 probably has similar thoughts so I feel 882 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,240 we should stay away from mentioning any 883 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,560 age except I agree a student of some age 884 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,280 is okay but if they're a 22y old 885 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,440 University student that should be fine 886 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 in my mind so I'm not going to support 887 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,319 the the amendment I feel it's too 888 00:40:55,319 --> 00:40:58,000 specific um 889 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,880 and I don't think it needs to include 890 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,560 one senior either because a good chunk 891 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560 of those people councelor lingren is 892 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,839 right about a good chunk of those 893 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:08,280 Representatives may be somewhat similar 894 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960 to me with gray hair and some experience 895 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,720 so I'm fine with the way the terms of 896 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,760 reference are as they said thank you 897 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,400 councelor Flynn any other speakers to 898 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,560 the amendment councelor lingren I'll let 899 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,160 you close unless someone else wants to 900 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,800 speak to it councelor lingren go ahead 901 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,760 oh oh you pressed twice press again I 902 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,000 messed 903 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,880 up okay 904 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,240 don't touch those buttons councelor 905 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,119 lingren please go ahead um so I would 906 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,800 based on the feedback I would be willing 907 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560 to change my Amendment so that it just 908 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,359 reads one student representative and 909 00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:42,319 remove the senior representative okay 910 00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:43,880 we're going to vote on this amendment 911 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,920 and then if you want to make a different 912 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,359 amendment that will be 913 00:41:46,359 --> 00:41:48,240 fine do you wish to speak to the 914 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:52,240 Amendments on the floor right now I just 915 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,280 did well sort of okay uh any other 916 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,560 speakers to the amendment that is on the 917 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,670 floor 918 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,960 presently okay hearing none I will call 919 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,520 the question on the amendment that's on 920 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,150 the floor presently all those in 921 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,319 favor any 922 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,520 opposed okay that Amendment does not 923 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,680 pass with councelor lingren in favor the 924 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,599 rest opposed are there any further 925 00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:20,880 discussions councelor lingren please go 926 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,880 ahead I'd like to make another attempt 927 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,559 at an amendment to remove the section 928 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:28,000 that says that includes one youth 929 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,480 representative and one senior 930 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,119 representative and replace it with 931 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,480 one do we want student or youth under 25 932 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,839 or one student I 933 00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:41,040 think okay one student under 25 is that 934 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,200 what you'd like it to 935 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,960 say sure we'll try that and see what 936 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,760 happens is there a seconder to that 937 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,440 Amendment councelor Flynn will second 938 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,720 the amendment councelor lingren speaking 939 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,040 to the amendment yeah I I think that 940 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,000 we're going to have a a um adequate or 941 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,680 generous a generous uh smattering of 942 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,800 senior representation and I don't think 943 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000 that we want to limit the citizens at 944 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,520 large to fill that role and so if we 945 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,400 include one youth uh specifically that 946 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,520 would be an a good perspective to bring 947 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,000 in and it's one that we often Overlook 948 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,480 and I think on climate change they have 949 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,119 a very unique perspective and uh we need 950 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:21,640 to be able to hear their 951 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040 voice okay presently it says that 952 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,520 includes one youth representative and 953 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,200 one senior representative and your 954 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,119 replacing that with one student under 25 955 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:31,800 so my understanding of the amendment 956 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,599 councelor Flynn thank you worship I 957 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,000 seconded this amendment even though it 958 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,520 does say an age but it does say a 959 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,000 student and honestly if we only had one 960 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,800 student it was 26 that applied I'm 961 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,200 pretty sure we would be able to deal 962 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,880 with it so I do think a student whether 963 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,760 it's high school or early University 964 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,000 would provide a perspective that is 965 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,440 needed so I can support this thank you 966 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,880 councelor Flynn further speakers to the 967 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,800 amendment um councelor Wallace Richmond 968 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,280 did you want to speak to the amendment 969 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,920 yes this one please um I'm I'm sorry uh 970 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,760 we're gonna have to vote against this um 971 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,720 part of the role of the citizen as large 972 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,559 is is people might see themselves um as 973 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:18,880 not being involved in any particular 974 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,880 type of 975 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,119 organization um with a role to play um 976 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,440 in this particular steering committee so 977 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,800 I I I don't want to keep it too 978 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,680 prescriptive I 979 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,440 think we we would like to have a a young 980 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,359 person on the committee and we would 981 00:44:36,359 --> 00:44:39,119 like to have um a senior on the 982 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:41,599 committee so we might give someone an 983 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,319 opportunity who hadn't otherwise uh 984 00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:47,800 thought about it to who might have um 985 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,280 important concerns about climate change 986 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680 to be able to have a role remember 987 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,599 everyone on this committee is playing an 988 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,480 advisory role um and represent their 989 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680 group it doesn't matter what age they 990 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,839 are or how long they've been doing it um 991 00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:05,079 and I think there are plenty of people 992 00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:08,200 in the community young and old who would 993 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,079 uh be excellent uh representatives and I 994 00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:14,640 think we at the very least need to um go 995 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,760 out and and and make that known and seek 996 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,359 them out and see who who decides to uh 997 00:45:20,359 --> 00:45:22,079 put their name forward it at that point 998 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,960 I'd be in a better position to decide 999 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,559 thank you thank you councelor Wallace 1000 00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:29,079 Richmond councelor lingren thanks if I 1001 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,400 may I just want to respond to that um so 1002 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,040 what I heard there is that we should be 1003 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,880 less prescriptive which is what I'm 1004 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,960 aiming for here we would still have 1005 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,920 three citizens at large two of them 1006 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,800 would be open to whoever would like to 1007 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,359 apply uh including seniors including 1008 00:45:46,359 --> 00:45:48,880 people in their Middle Ages uh male 1009 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,839 female Multicultural backgrounds 1010 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:53,640 whatever it takes and I think that's the 1011 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,440 goal here is to be less prescriptive 1012 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,520 about who sits in these seats 1013 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,119 and opening it up to uh uh a 1014 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:06,480 no no guard rails uh one senior is quite 1015 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,880 prescriptive actually and may limit a 1016 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,599 55-year-old from applying who comes with 1017 00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,559 a very interesting perspective or 1018 00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,000 background so I think that it's really 1019 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,960 important that we take out the senior 1020 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200 prescription and leave it open to 1021 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,119 whoever is 1022 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,599 interested thank you councelor lingren 1023 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,440 any other comments on the amend 1024 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,559 Amendment could I just clarify with the 1025 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:32,680 director of engineer and Public Works 1026 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,920 the three citizens at large when people 1027 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,119 apply for those positions will those 1028 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:40,720 Position will those names come forward 1029 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,000 to council and Council will select the 1030 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,000 three that's my understanding yes okay 1031 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,960 thank you all right any other speakers 1032 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,750 to the 1033 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,680 amendment I'll call a question on the 1034 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,549 amendment all those in favor 1035 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:03,200 opposed councelor ganela sir I missed 1036 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,400 your vote I was for 1037 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,319 okay uh the amendment does not passed 1038 00:47:09,319 --> 00:47:10,880 councelor lavry councelor WS Richmond 1039 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,040 councelor Canada myself 1040 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,559 opposed is there any other discussion 1041 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:19,309 around the 1042 00:47:19,319 --> 00:47:21,839 motion seean call a question on the main 1043 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:27,349 motion as stands all those in favor 1044 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:28,920 any 1045 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,800 opposed that passes unanimously thank 1046 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,000 you very much thank you to the director 1047 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,079 of engineering Public Works putting that 1048 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:39,359 together for us okay we'll go to item 10 1049 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,280 introduction of 1050 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,280 bylaws 10.1 is zoning mment bylaw number 1051 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,440 4691 Pacific address 680 10th Street 1052 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,559 Southwest the owner is G&G Walters the 1053 00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:55,839 agent is G Gary Arsenal um there's a 1054 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,040 motion if someone would like to move it 1055 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,119 to get it on the 1056 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,319 floor councelor ganella would move 1057 00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:06,359 it seconded by councelor lavry thank you 1058 00:48:06,359 --> 00:48:08,520 I'll ask 1059 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,839 uh hello Miss Pont nice to see you 1060 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:13,559 you're gonna speak to this 1061 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,640 report yes thank you your worship uh the 1062 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,119 subject property is located at 680 10th 1063 00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,319 Street Southwest south of the Trans 1064 00:48:21,319 --> 00:48:23,640 Canada Highway and East of 10th Street 1065 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,400 Southwest and Picadilly Mall the subject 1066 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,160 property is designated high density 1067 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,880 residential in the city's official 1068 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,000 community plan and zoned r10 residential 1069 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,680 in the zoning bylaw The Proposal is to 1070 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,480 rezone the parcel from the r10 1071 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,559 residential Zone to the R5 high density 1072 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,760 residential Zone this is to allow for 1073 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,240 construction of a multif family 1074 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,720 residential development the subject 1075 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:48,520 property is located in an appropriate 1076 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,040 location for high density housing forms 1077 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,920 as it has good access to Transportation 1078 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,440 routes recreation parks commercial use 1079 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,960 use es a library and a post office once 1080 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,839 Consolidated with the property located 1081 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:04,960 at 710 10th Street Southwest the subject 1082 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,799 property would meet the requirements of 1083 00:49:06,799 --> 00:49:08,960 the R5 Zone with respect to minimum 1084 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,119 parcel width and parcel area future 1085 00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:14,079 development would require a residential 1086 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,839 development permit at which time site 1087 00:49:16,839 --> 00:49:19,319 access building massing form and 1088 00:49:19,319 --> 00:49:21,319 character and Landscaping will be 1089 00:49:21,319 --> 00:49:23,240 reviewed given that the proposed 1090 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:25,319 resoning is consistent with the ocp 1091 00:49:25,319 --> 00:49:27,839 staff are supportive of the res Zone 1092 00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:30,160 subject to the conditions of LW 1093 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960 consolidation and Ministry of 1094 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,760 Transportation and Transit approval 1095 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,559 staff are available should Council have 1096 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,839 any questions thank you great thank you 1097 00:49:38,839 --> 00:49:40,200 very much for your summary of your 1098 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,880 report I'll open it up to counselors for 1099 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,280 any questions you might have of Miss 1100 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:51,549 Pont or if you want to make a 1101 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,359 comment I see no speakers I'll give you 1102 00:49:54,359 --> 00:49:55,799 another little minute if you want to 1103 00:49:55,799 --> 00:49:58,640 think about it 1104 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,440 okay I see no speakers so I will call a 1105 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,150 question all those in 1106 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,920 favor that passes unanimously thank you 1107 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,319 very much we will go to item 102 which 1108 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:12,440 is zoning Amendment bylaw 1109 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,839 4689 Civic address is 560 580 610 shop 1110 00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:17,799 Street 1111 00:50:17,799 --> 00:50:21,440 Southeast um limited company and the uh 1112 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,040 uh agent is also the owner there is a 1113 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960 proposed motion um to read this first 1114 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,040 second and third time um if I could have 1115 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,400 a mover and a seconder councelor Canon 1116 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,760 would move councelor lry would second uh 1117 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,240 counc lavry yes with second thank you 1118 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,680 very much um oh hello Miss Jeffrey 1119 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,440 welcome you're going to speak to this 1120 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,680 report yes thank you your worship the 1121 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,440 subject properties are 560 580 and 610 1122 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,839 shwap Street Southeast there is 1123 00:50:52,839 --> 00:50:55,480 currently one single family dwelling on 1124 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,599 560 Street and the other two are vacant 1125 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,559 the properties are designated in the 1126 00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:03,920 official community plan as high density 1127 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,440 residential and are zoned 1128 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000 r10 the purpose of the zoning Amendment 1129 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 application is to rezone the subject 1130 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,680 Parcels from r10 to R5 high density 1131 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,400 residential in order to permit a future 1132 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,319 multif family residential 1133 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,680 development staff are supportive of the 1134 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,640 rezoning should the following conditions 1135 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,880 be met consolidating of the subject 1136 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,400 properties uh conduct a traffic impact 1137 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,440 assessment and Ministry of 1138 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,280 Transportation 1139 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,640 approval um could you go to appendix 1140 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,720 nine 1141 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,559 please once Consolidated the subject 1142 00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,839 property would satisfy the minimum lot 1143 00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:49,680 area requirement of R5 Zone staff want 1144 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,960 to correct information given to the 1145 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,400 development given at development and 1146 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,119 planning meeting December 16th 2024 the 1147 00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:01,079 maximum allowable units permitted with 1148 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,799 density bonuses would be 46 1149 00:52:03,799 --> 00:52:06,760 units 36 without 1150 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,400 bonuses since the proposed resoning 1151 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,000 aligns with the ocp staff are supportive 1152 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,079 of the 1153 00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,000 application thank you very much thank 1154 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,599 you for your summary of your report and 1155 00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:19,359 for noting that correction counselors 1156 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:20,839 I'll open it up to you and know we 1157 00:52:20,839 --> 00:52:21,960 talked about it at planning but 1158 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,640 certainly there's opportunity to ask 1159 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,160 questions or comment here 1160 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920 councelor Flynn thank you worship and I 1161 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,799 support this motion and we'll vote in 1162 00:52:31,799 --> 00:52:33,720 favor 1163 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:39,160 um it's designated RI or uh high density 1164 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,160 in this area in the ocp and that's 1165 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,640 because it's close to downtown and we 1166 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,440 expect people will drive less and things 1167 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,400 like that the last one which was right 1168 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,200 near a mall did not have a requirement 1169 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,720 for traffic impact study and this has 1170 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,680 many multi 1171 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,280 um unit developments around it I'm 1172 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,119 trying to understand does that traffic 1173 00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:06,200 impact study help us figure out what 1174 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,440 improvements we need um and why would 1175 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,079 this one have a traffic impact study 1176 00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,799 when increased traffic is probably 1177 00:53:13,799 --> 00:53:16,319 similar to the other one thank you for 1178 00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:17,720 your question I'm director of 1179 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:20,200 engineering of Public Works yes your 1180 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,960 worship so shwap and and fifth is the 1181 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,119 intersection Fifth Avenue uh has 1182 00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,599 basically been identified as 1183 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:31,559 a a weak intersection to say the least 1184 00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:33,280 and so the the traffic impact study 1185 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,240 would allow us to determine what impact 1186 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,559 this development would have on that 1187 00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:38,799 particular intersection and if they 1188 00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:40,640 would be required for any improvements 1189 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,160 and that would be at their 1190 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,440 cost okay so approximately how much does 1191 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,079 a traffic impact study cost director of 1192 00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,400 engineering Public Works it it depends 1193 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,319 on who they get for a consultant I mean 1194 00:53:53,319 --> 00:53:55,040 I I don't have the pricing I mean it 1195 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,559 could be 5,00 it could be 10,000 it 1196 00:53:57,559 --> 00:53:59,160 could be more depending on how in depth 1197 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,599 they have to go but this is a fairly 1198 00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:04,400 simple uh impact study okay thank you 1199 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,520 thank you councelor Flynn councelor 1200 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,799 labry uh yeah thanks you worship I fully 1201 00:54:10,799 --> 00:54:12,839 support this we've had discussion out of 1202 00:54:12,839 --> 00:54:15,559 planning and uh uh this makes uh 1203 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:18,119 imminent sense I also want to reiterate 1204 00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:22,000 how helpful staff uh including the Zone 1205 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,119 comparison charts are not only for us 1206 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:26,839 but I know when people ask me questions 1207 00:54:26,839 --> 00:54:29,200 about an application and I can refer 1208 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,400 them to that comparison chart it uh 1209 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,839 really crystallizes the conversation so 1210 00:54:34,839 --> 00:54:36,319 I know staff is doing it they're doing 1211 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,720 it regularly and kudos to them for doing 1212 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,799 it thank you thank you councelor lavry 1213 00:54:41,799 --> 00:54:44,160 councelor lingren thanks your worship I 1214 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,640 just wondered I know the concept designs 1215 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,440 are rarely exactly what's going to be 1216 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,960 built but I'm just curious uh if we know 1217 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,160 anything about what the parking 1218 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,440 arrangements are going to be for 46 cars 1219 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,440 on that site 1220 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,799 thank you councelor lingren you probably 1221 00:54:57,799 --> 00:54:59,960 know I'm going to remind uh Council this 1222 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,960 is a resoning application but I will ask 1223 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,760 Miss Jeffrey if she can comment on on 1224 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,839 the parking piece thank you your worship 1225 00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:11,599 um no we do not have um a crystal idea 1226 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,160 of what the parking is going to look 1227 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,799 like okay thanks thank you any other 1228 00:55:18,799 --> 00:55:21,960 comments or questions from 1229 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,359 Council seeing none I'll call the 1230 00:55:24,359 --> 00:55:25,799 question first three readings of the 1231 00:55:25,799 --> 00:55:30,589 rezoning all those in 1232 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,319 favor that passes unanimously thank you 1233 00:55:33,319 --> 00:55:36,079 very much Miss Jeffrey for your report 1234 00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:38,160 we will move to 10.3 which is 1235 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,760 subdivision and development services 1236 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,240 Amendment bylaw 1237 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,200 4698 um there is a proposed motion if 1238 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,359 there's a virtual movers and seconders I 1239 00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:50,079 would accept that moved by councelor 1240 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:51,960 Wallis Richmond seconded by councelor 1241 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,240 lavry thank you councilors um I'll go to 1242 00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:57,200 the 1243 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,960 is it Miss smurl or is it director of 1244 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,319 engineering and Public Works speak into 1245 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:01,640 this 1246 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,349 one director of engineering and public 1247 00:56:06,359 --> 00:56:09,240 works thank you worship so the 1248 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,079 subdivision development services bylaw 1249 00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:14,720 was adopted by Council on June 26 of 23 1250 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,799 the Vio requires um and regulates the 1251 00:56:17,799 --> 00:56:20,319 provisions of works and services in 1252 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:21,520 respect to the subdivision and 1253 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,920 development of the land within the city 1254 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,839 development means the alternative of 1255 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:26,960 land 1256 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,799 by the construction insulation extension 1257 00:56:29,799 --> 00:56:32,640 and alternative of any building and or 1258 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,200 structure that requires a building 1259 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,640 permit the city is required to obtain a 1260 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,160 building permit for works that fall 1261 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,319 under the BC building code and therefore 1262 00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:42,880 the city requires complete the works and 1263 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,000 services triggered by the subdivision 1264 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,400 development services bylaw the city 1265 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,200 prioritizes and completes the upgrades 1266 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,079 uh to works and services within the city 1267 00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,680 right away on a priority basis to best 1268 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,839 meet the needs of the community staff 1269 00:56:56,839 --> 00:56:58,920 believe it is not in the best interest 1270 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,280 of the taxpayer for the city to complete 1271 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,720 Frontage upgrades outside the priorities 1272 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:05,839 established for the community due to the 1273 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:08,000 application of a building permit for 1274 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,400 institutional 1275 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,599 infrastructure um staff are requesting 1276 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:12,799 the amendment to the subdivision 1277 00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:15,720 development services bylaw to exempt 1278 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:17,799 City properties from the requirements of 1279 00:57:17,799 --> 00:57:19,280 the subdivision development services 1280 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,359 bylaw this will per permit Capital work 1281 00:57:22,359 --> 00:57:24,839 projects to be completed as planned 1282 00:57:24,839 --> 00:57:26,400 without being forced to under take 1283 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,280 Frontage upgrades and works that could 1284 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,559 significantly impact the 1285 00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:34,760 budgets thank you very much councilors 1286 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,599 councelor Flynn thank you worship and uh 1287 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,160 when I read this I found it very 1288 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240 interesting and maybe a little bit 1289 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,559 confusing for me but maybe I can use a 1290 00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,480 specific example and that will help me 1291 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,880 understand um the new residents at the 1292 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,359 college created offsite for the college 1293 00:57:56,359 --> 00:57:59,640 and then we chose to do some 1294 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,079 offsites and the improvements are 1295 00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,160 amazing and significant and probably 1296 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,119 were somewhere in our 1297 00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:08,319 priority is 1298 00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:12,760 it that we just want the flexibility to 1299 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,799 decide not to necessarily do those 1300 00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:16,880 improvements if they're not in a plan 1301 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,559 already or decide if we want to advance 1302 00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:20,920 them is that kind of what you're trying 1303 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,839 to do just give staff some flexibility 1304 00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:26,119 director of engineering and Public Works 1305 00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:28,480 yes your worship that's correct um to 1306 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,480 give another example the the water 1307 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,680 treatment plant zone 2 Pump Station uh 1308 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,000 the Water Treatment Plant is a huge 1309 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,599 Frontage yeah and that project is 1310 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,640 already you know worth 4 point some 1311 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,880 million dollars to add the frontage 1312 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,119 improvements which are in okay shape 1313 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:46,960 right now but really need to be planned 1314 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,599 as a separate project so it gives us 1315 00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:50,839 some flexibility so I guess it's just a 1316 00:58:50,839 --> 00:58:53,720 perfect example of some of the times 1317 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160 that staff's hands are tied by by loss 1318 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,319 or by our rules and you're just trying 1319 00:58:59,319 --> 00:59:01,400 to get a little more flexibility in this 1320 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,079 rule to actually do the work when it 1321 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,760 should happen in our overall 1322 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,680 planning director of engineering and 1323 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,520 public works that's absolutely correct 1324 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,400 your worship um we do have a a very 1325 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,160 extensive Capital Works plan and a lot 1326 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,119 of times the frontage improvements are 1327 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:21,119 planned in in association with other 1328 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:23,720 projects and so that's what we'd like to 1329 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,680 uh to be able to do with this okay well 1330 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,920 I would personally be very silly to not 1331 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,440 support staff in this request thank you 1332 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,319 councelor Flynn councelor 1333 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:36,960 lavry uh yeah thanks you worship uh 1334 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,359 through you to staff so I I get the 1335 00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:41,960 intent of this and I support it for the 1336 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,160 most part but I I'm looking for some 1337 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,720 concrete examples here um in the last 1338 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,799 two or three years we've probably made 1339 00:59:48,799 --> 00:59:51,839 strides when there's been some City 1340 00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:54,559 infrastructure that 1341 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,720 uh and it may not require building pered 1342 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,760 I could be corrected on that but some 1343 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160 City infrastructure that's added to and 1344 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,839 that we've managed to find ways to put 1345 01:00:04,839 --> 01:00:08,760 an active Transportation or other uh key 1346 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,839 con I'm thinking connectivity 1347 01:00:10,839 --> 01:00:15,990 infrastructure here so how would this 1348 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,119 request factor into some infrastructure 1349 01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:21,559 where there might be 1350 01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:23,520 connectivity uh 1351 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,680 enhancements but essentially 1352 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,720 that not coming in front of council to 1353 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,960 discuss director of engineering Public 1354 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,039 Works your worship I guess I that goes 1355 01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:36,599 with the the 1356 01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:39,440 planning exercises that we go through if 1357 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,480 if and typically this is a building 1358 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,359 permit uh so another example would be 1359 01:00:44,359 --> 01:00:47,960 the um the Fifth Avenue booster or sorry 1360 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,480 the fifth zone five booster station 1361 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,720 along tenth and so that would have been 1362 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,119 a very small Frontage to put in a 1363 01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:59,480 multi-use path a very challenging one um 1364 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,079 so that was also deferred um it doesn't 1365 01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:05,359 mean that it's off the list if we have a 1366 01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:08,119 case where we have a building permit um 1367 01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:10,000 that we could do the works in 1368 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,960 conjunction with an additional Act of 1369 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,799 Transportation Capital project that we 1370 01:01:13,799 --> 01:01:17,240 would we would do that um but really in 1371 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,559 answer to councilor lab's question we 1372 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,079 are looking for the flexibility to defer 1373 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,920 Frontage improvements if we feel that we 1374 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,760 we just either cannot afford them or 1375 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,160 they haven't been um or they're on for a 1376 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,440 different time in the in the plan to be 1377 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,480 constructed councilor 1378 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,119 lry um so these are more comments and 1379 01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:41,799 questions then so I I get the 1380 01:01:41,799 --> 01:01:44,640 intent um and I trust staff to bring 1381 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,680 things forward but I I'm not sure if I 1382 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,000 can support this at this stage unless 1383 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,599 there is some 1384 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,359 language 1385 01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:57,000 about a 1386 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,400 reference to 1387 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,039 council like not an automatic exemption 1388 01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:03,960 but some language about a reference to 1389 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,279 council prior to exemption um I think 1390 01:02:07,279 --> 01:02:09,400 Council needs some control over that and 1391 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,559 I I I don't have the word smithing in 1392 01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:13,680 front of me here to do that so I'm going 1393 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,880 to think about this more a little bit 1394 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,240 you worship if there's any time um but 1395 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,319 if I'm going to oppose it if there's no 1396 01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:22,279 uh and I I rep I understand the 1397 01:02:22,279 --> 01:02:25,279 alternative implications as uh noted in 1398 01:02:25,279 --> 01:02:27,920 the staff report 1399 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,039 but I kind of want this to remain a 1400 01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,079 council decision thank you thank you 1401 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,520 councelor labry councelor lingren thanks 1402 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,480 your worship um I have similar thoughts 1403 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,119 I'm just I think curious what would be 1404 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,839 the advantage to this over just coming 1405 01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:46,520 to council for a 1406 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440 variance director of engineering of 1407 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,400 Public Works your worship I guess it's 1408 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,039 it's about time it's really about time 1409 01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,079 and if there was a requirement to do do 1410 01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,160 those works if Council defeated it then 1411 01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,359 Council would have to put money in the 1412 01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:01,720 budget to do those works and if they 1413 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,279 weren't necessarily budgeted with the 1414 01:03:03,279 --> 01:03:05,799 building permit then it would come from 1415 01:03:05,799 --> 01:03:08,160 somewhere from reserves or gener Revenue 1416 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,799 to to fund that 1417 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:13,839 project yeah I think go ahead I think 1418 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:15,720 for me I would rather see the city 1419 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,240 budgeting for those things and coming 1420 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,559 for a variance and we come out ahead in 1421 01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,160 the the grand scheme of things there's 1422 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,079 more money than budgeted than we're 1423 01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,720 actually going to spend 1424 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,720 um and I I think it's important that uh 1425 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,480 regardless of how good staff is at doing 1426 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,119 this that Council has uh some influence 1427 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,079 because they're here at the table 1428 01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,160 representing the views of the people 1429 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,960 that elected us and so I think it's 1430 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,559 important that those views are heard on 1431 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:50,920 these kinds of issues um I understand 1432 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,160 the issue around timing it can cause 1433 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,880 delays to have to come to Council and 1434 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,240 ask for a variance however I think that 1435 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,160 a lot of the projects that we 1436 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,720 approve 1437 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,240 um they're approved well in advance of 1438 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,079 when the project actually gets started 1439 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,039 and so I'm not sure that that 1440 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:19,400 is um kind of the deciding factor for me 1441 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,599 so I think I I think I stand opposed at 1442 01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,720 this time thank you councelor lingren 1443 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,760 we'll go to councelor Wallace Richman 1444 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,480 next uh your worship thank you uh I'm 1445 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,079 I'm warmed to this idea I I think uh as 1446 01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:37,000 a as a council as staff as a community 1447 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,799 we have some very ambitious plans in 1448 01:04:39,799 --> 01:04:43,760 place Asset Management plans uh 1449 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,400 strategic priority plans ocp plans um 1450 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,319 this is a a the building permit piece is 1451 01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:56,880 is an additional part and I don't 1452 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,400 I think there's an expectation that um 1453 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,200 we've made commitments to get things 1454 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,799 done we've got budgets in place and when 1455 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:08,400 delays like this happen uh and there's a 1456 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,240 way to avoid them I actually think we 1457 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,520 should we should try it this way and see 1458 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,240 how it works there nothing to be said 1459 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400 that in a year from now we put the 1460 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,520 breakes on because things didn't get 1461 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,920 done the way they should have got done 1462 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,559 or we missed an opportunity to do 1463 01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:25,760 something we we thought we would but we 1464 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,559 o have to give staff the tools to move 1465 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,640 ahead on on some of the very ambitious 1466 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,760 um uh to-do lists we've given them so 1467 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,039 I'm going to vote in favor and I would 1468 01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:40,359 encourage uh Council to give this um 1469 01:05:40,359 --> 01:05:42,680 take this approach uh to see because we 1470 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,079 all know we've seen delays in projects 1471 01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:47,200 the community really wanted whether we 1472 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,160 had to do the upgrade say for example 1473 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,720 Highway improvements and the West Den 1474 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,319 that sort of thing um and if this is a 1475 01:05:55,319 --> 01:05:57,520 if that was a barrier and this can speed 1476 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,039 things up let's try it and see what 1477 01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:02,039 happens thank you councelor Wallace 1478 01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:04,319 Richmond councelor Canon thank you 1479 01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:09,760 worship I too um support uh this change 1480 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,400 to our bylaw I think the example uh that 1481 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,520 director of engineering gave about the 1482 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,160 pump station and the 1483 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,559 frontage I think I think really what it 1484 01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:24,520 boils down to is that we get our ourself 1485 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,119 caught up in our a bit of bureaucracy 1486 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,599 with projects and moving them forward 1487 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,480 and I think this gives the ability to 1488 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,440 not have our city staff come to us with 1489 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,559 the 1490 01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:41,200 variance instead they can go ahead and 1491 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,599 get the jobs done that we have already 1492 01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,400 budgeted in our budget process so we 1493 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,480 know those jobs are getting done and if 1494 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,440 you know there really is a need for that 1495 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,599 Frontage work or whatever to be done I'm 1496 01:06:57,599 --> 01:06:59,799 sure that our staff will recognize that 1497 01:06:59,799 --> 01:07:01,680 and bring that to the table when we do 1498 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,640 our budget process so I'm in favor of 1499 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,240 this thank you councelor Canon councelor 1500 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,839 Flynn yeah I will reiterate my support 1501 01:07:10,839 --> 01:07:13,319 um when we talk about our decision- 1502 01:07:13,319 --> 01:07:15,839 making at this table the budget every 1503 01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:18,720 year includes the capital Works projects 1504 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,720 this motion is saying that if staff 1505 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,520 feels upgrades are needed that will 1506 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,160 probably be part of the budget of that 1507 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,799 project and to me I think we look 1508 01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:33,039 extremely we get looked at extremely 1509 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,640 interestingly by our taxpayers if we're 1510 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,839 having to apply to ourselves for a 1511 01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:41,240 variance um I trust staff to know what 1512 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,760 our priorties are we are part of that 1513 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,559 prioritization of works and to take one 1514 01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:49,319 piece of bureaucracy out I think most 1515 01:07:49,319 --> 01:07:51,480 people would be in favor of that so I 1516 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,520 will vote and support thank you 1517 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,760 councelor Flynn councelor ganella thank 1518 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,160 your warship and through you to possibly 1519 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,119 the um COA the the question I have about 1520 01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:03,559 this because I'm I'm listening to that 1521 01:08:03,559 --> 01:08:05,839 the counselors and I'm on the offence of 1522 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:09,039 uh uh supporting this but I also 1523 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,480 understand where counselor lavy 1524 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,119 and council lingren is coming from for 1525 01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:15,239 in a sense 1526 01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,480 of there's it feels like there's no 1527 01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:19,279 breaks on it and which I'm saying 1528 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,239 anyone's going to do anything um outside 1529 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:23,600 of the being professional of course um 1530 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,839 is there a way that we can make this 1531 01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:28,359 this we make a motion a friendly Mo 1532 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:31,159 amendment to give this a a certain time 1533 01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:34,400 as treat it as a pilot project and or a 1534 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,759 pilot you know period where we can say 1535 01:08:36,759 --> 01:08:39,080 does this work and we can just look at 1536 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,960 it not saying so we can have what we 1537 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,640 need want to have approved today but 1538 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,319 also have put a timer on it so you're 1539 01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:48,080 thinking like a a review of some kind 1540 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,319 one year and just see if this is this is 1541 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,520 working as expected I'll pass your 1542 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,080 question on to the chief administrative 1543 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,000 officer 1544 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,279 through your worship yes you can set a 1545 01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,040 time limit on it and we can write that 1546 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,279 into the bylaw it would require a bylaw 1547 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:07,080 Amendment however so we we can do that 1548 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,719 did you wish to make an amendment uh 1549 01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:10,400 councelor ganella I would like to make 1550 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,319 that Amendment thank you okay and um 1551 01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:14,719 what kind of timeline are you thinking 1552 01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:16,719 of for the 1553 01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:19,920 review 12 months okay so that your 1554 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,000 Amendment would be the bylaw entitled 1555 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,440 city of seminar subdivision development 1556 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,759 services Amendment bylaw um be read a 1557 01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:28,440 first second and third time um and 1558 01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:31,759 should the bylaw pass uh be reviewed by 1559 01:09:31,759 --> 01:09:34,159 Council in 12 months exactly what I 1560 01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:35,480 would have said thank you is there a 1561 01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:42,229 seconder to that 1562 01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,480 amendment seconded by councelor Wallace 1563 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,679 Richmond I think that's second yes 1564 01:09:46,679 --> 01:09:48,520 councelor ganal do you wish to speak to 1565 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,960 your Amendment yeah yes I um thank you 1566 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,080 for um having the opportunity to speak 1567 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,000 again on this uh again I I feel like 1568 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,320 this is is giving us um supporting staff 1569 01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,800 in the direction they would like to go 1570 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,000 but also giving Council an opportunity 1571 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,000 to review this um in a timely manner uh 1572 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,840 I don't think it's too short 12 months 1573 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,199 gives us some time to have a reflection 1574 01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:10,800 and think this if this is the right way 1575 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,199 we want to approach from here on out 1576 01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:14,920 thank you thank you councelor ganal 1577 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,159 councelor lingren did you wish to speak 1578 01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:18,480 to the amendment councelor Flynn did you 1579 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:20,520 speak to the amendment councelor Canon 1580 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,520 did you wish to speak to the amendment 1581 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,840 okay so councelor lingren I'm just going 1582 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,560 to skip over you and then I'll come back 1583 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,159 if you press your button councelor Flynn 1584 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,080 please go ahead thank you worship and I 1585 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,199 understand the intent of the amendment 1586 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,760 but I will vote against first of all we 1587 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,560 are in these seats for almost another 1588 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,560 two 1589 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,199 years I don't understand why we can't 1590 01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:42,159 give at least two years so I don't like 1591 01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:46,400 the one year and I also um don't think 1592 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,120 there'll be that many projects that this 1593 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,840 will apply to in that year so I am 1594 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,800 against the amendment and again fully 1595 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,480 supported the motion thank thank you 1596 01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:57,120 councelor Flynn councelor Canon to the 1597 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,640 amendment thank you worship I to am 1598 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,480 against the amendment and fully support 1599 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,600 the original uh 1600 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,400 motion any other speakers to the 1601 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,600 amendment seeing none I will call a 1602 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:17,870 question on the amendment all those in 1603 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,920 favor the amendment fails councelor 1604 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,120 lingren councelor canel and myself in 1605 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,920 favor councelor lavry councelor Wallace 1606 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,679 rich councelor Flynn and councelor Canon 1607 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:29,880 opposed so we're back to the original 1608 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,360 motion and councelor lingren it's your 1609 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,920 turn to speak yeah I just have a 1610 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,239 question 1611 01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:38,600 about um responsibility in the eyes of 1612 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,360 the public and if um for instance a 1613 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,000 project went 1614 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,760 ahead uh people from the community felt 1615 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,679 that it should have had a sidewalk or a 1616 01:11:50,679 --> 01:11:54,080 multi-use path or some other upgrade 1617 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,199 done and and uh the city didn't complete 1618 01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:00,880 it who who will the public hold 1619 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,280 responsible for that and is that the 1620 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,440 right place for it is that I feel like 1621 01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:10,600 the city will be standing in the firing 1622 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,840 line when it should be us taking the 1623 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,679 heat from the public uh for decisions 1624 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:16,760 that are 1625 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,480 made uh by the city and so I'm I'm 1626 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:22,320 curious if anybody has any insight into 1627 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,080 how that could play out 1628 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,560 um don't staff wanted to comment that I 1629 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,960 could I could give you my opinion I 1630 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,000 think my opinion would be that um it 1631 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,800 would come back to council generally we 1632 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,679 get letters from people who are and it's 1633 01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:40,040 easy to Mayor and Council so I think 1634 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,760 that's the way it would 1635 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,960 go right but the council would then be 1636 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,199 being held responsible by the public for 1637 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,600 a decision they aren't making and what 1638 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,199 would be the response from Council we're 1639 01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:53,719 sorry we'll think about doing it 1640 01:12:53,719 --> 01:12:57,199 different next time because we won't be 1641 01:12:57,199 --> 01:12:58,679 and Council would then have to decide 1642 01:12:58,679 --> 01:13:00,040 whether they wanted to fund whatever 1643 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,840 they request from the person who wrote 1644 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,639 the letter was and that would be up to 1645 01:13:03,639 --> 01:13:05,679 them but it wouldn't be coming forward 1646 01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:08,560 to council staff would be making the 1647 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,440 decision yes that's 1648 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,199 correct 1649 01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:15,440 so yeah maybe I didn't explain myself 1650 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,120 very well you're you're right staff 1651 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,520 would make the decision resident would 1652 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,639 write to council Council would say maybe 1653 01:13:22,639 --> 01:13:24,600 we should put that sidewalk in there put 1654 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,960 it next year 's budget or no we think 1655 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,830 staff was right we don't need debt 1656 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,880 sidewalk okay I I see a lot of wasted 1657 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,199 money when we look back and say oh we 1658 01:13:38,199 --> 01:13:40,080 did that project last year let's tear it 1659 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,880 up and put a sidewalk in the time to do 1660 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,760 these works is when it's all torn up to 1661 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,360 do the work in the first place and I 1662 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,840 think that if council is going to be 1663 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,639 held responsible for those decisions 1664 01:13:49,639 --> 01:13:52,560 they should be making those 1665 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,360 decisions okay thank you um other 1666 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,280 speakers councel 1667 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,840 lavry yeah thanks for a second time your 1668 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,080 worship I mean so I think the the uh 1669 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,159 differences are have been well of of 1670 01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:07,840 thought have been well exemplified here 1671 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,440 uh this is not a criticism of staff at 1672 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:13,480 all um so I one question and another 1673 01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:15,679 comment through you if I remember 1674 01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:18,480 correctly uh 1675 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,199 we 1676 01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:25,719 passed a variance Todo work down at the 1677 01:14:25,719 --> 01:14:28,320 water treatment plant upgrade is that 1678 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,760 correct yes that is correct to Pump 1679 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,000 Station two yeah and threeyear 1680 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,360 worship did the fact of H how long did 1681 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,199 that defer the project by having to go 1682 01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:42,760 through our existing process of coming 1683 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,440 to council to support that 1684 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:48,159 exemption I I'll pass that on to the 1685 01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,280 director of engineering Public Works um 1686 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,960 in regards to time it was more just one 1687 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,600 more step but ultimately it comes down 1688 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,199 to the cost it would have significantly 1689 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,159 increased the cost of that project and 1690 01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:03,960 I'm not sure that uh we would have been 1691 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,520 able to complete it all or got approval 1692 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,159 for the the costs but having said that 1693 01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:11,800 um it could have been included in the 1694 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,120 total works but we're seeing so many 1695 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,400 costs uh escalating over the next or 1696 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,440 over the last year and in future um so 1697 01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:22,920 we are looking at basically doing the 1698 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,080 project if it's a building permit uh 1699 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,400 similar to the zone five doing the 1700 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,040 project and then postponing the frontage 1701 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,560 works for a later date when it can be 1702 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,360 combined with a larger 1703 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,480 project councilor lavry I'll pass it 1704 01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:39,360 back to you yeah no thanks for the 1705 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,719 response to that so 1706 01:15:41,719 --> 01:15:44,639 that in many ways bolsters the point 1707 01:15:44,639 --> 01:15:46,520 that I'm going to make is that I I was 1708 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,639 one I I I can't remember the exact vote 1709 01:15:48,639 --> 01:15:51,679 but I think it was heartily endorsed to 1710 01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:54,600 uh for the city to exempt itself from 1711 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,560 the lications of that work that was done 1712 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,480 and what I'm hearing is it didn't take a 1713 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,360 lot of extra time it was one more step 1714 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:07,120 and I appreciate that um I would like I 1715 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,920 I would like to know I think that's a 1716 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:13,199 higher standard than uh essentially what 1717 01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,199 the 1718 01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:17,760 proposal uh puts forward I think it's a 1719 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,480 higher standard and at least gives 1720 01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:21,880 Council the review of that this has been 1721 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,400 mentioned before um doesn't signific L 1722 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,639 delay it unless I am missing something 1723 01:16:28,639 --> 01:16:32,159 so uh your worship I um be interested to 1724 01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:34,159 see what the lay it doesn't have to be a 1725 01:16:34,159 --> 01:16:37,199 spreadsheet but the lay of the land is 1726 01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:39,520 in terms of projects that might fall 1727 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,000 into this category and I would move that 1728 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,760 we defer this motion until we get that 1729 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,760 information there second to the deferral 1730 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,000 councelor lingren as there's no 1731 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,480 discussion on deferral we'll call a 1732 01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:54,000 question on the deferral all those in 1733 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,760 favor 1734 01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,310 any 1735 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,880 opposed the deferral motion passes 1736 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,760 councelor Canon counselor Flynn are 1737 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,080 opposed we didn't put a timeline on it 1738 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,960 deferral except uh to receive the 1739 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,800 information so we'll leave that with 1740 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,880 staff to bring that back to us Council 1741 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,560 will proceed to 1742 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,679 correspondence 1743 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:22,040 348 I think it's time for a comfort 1744 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,440 break let's take five minutes and then 1745 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,719 uh we'll be back here at 1746 01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:31,159 3:55 I'm optimistic we're going to get 1747 01:17:31,159 --> 01:17:33,040 informational correspondence done in 5 1748 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,239 minutes and we'll be ready for our uh 1749 01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:53,830 friends from the Samar Mar Center at 4 1750 01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:23,750 o'clock 1751 01:18:23,760 --> 01:24:21,430 e e 1752 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,920 regular council meeting of Monday 1753 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,870 February 1754 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,910 10 just give everybody a chance to get 1755 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,480 settled okay we are at uh section 12 the 1756 01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:39,920 correspondent section we have five 1757 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,480 pieces of informational 1758 01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:43,679 correspondents please uh indicate if you 1759 01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,800 wish to speak to any councelor Ken your 1760 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,159 name was up here and I wasn't sure if it 1761 01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:48,679 was about informational correspondent 1762 01:24:48,679 --> 01:24:50,600 press again if you would please thank 1763 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,040 you councelor Canon please go 1764 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:58,480 ahead so what was the letter from 1765 01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:00,570 sabnis I'm 1766 01:25:00,570 --> 01:25:05,109 [Music] 1767 01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:08,239 requesting about the tower that they're 1768 01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,080 I'm writing on behalf of the board blah 1769 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,360 blah blah um safety concerns of the Old 1770 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,239 Tower poses potential safety 1771 01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:18,800 hazard 1772 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:24,880 and just wanted to support them in this 1773 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,360 so do we need to write a letter of 1774 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,480 support they're asking for money yeah 1775 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,520 would you perhap did you want to hear 1776 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,360 from staff uh could we ask that or yeah 1777 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,080 okay sure um I'm not sure if it would be 1778 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,520 the director of engineering of Public 1779 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,199 Works um or if it Mr jro who wanted to 1780 01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:45,390 speak to 1781 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,679 it yeah think you Council so yeah this 1782 01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:51,440 is uh Sav is asking for assistance to 1783 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,440 remove the the last remaining bird 1784 01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:57,440 platform the one just north of Christmas 1785 01:25:57,440 --> 01:26:00,639 Island I believe their request is 1786 01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:03,080 proposed to contribute 3,000 towards the 1787 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,040 removal um our estimates um are 1788 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,000 estimates but we're guessing about $6 to 1789 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,159 7,000 in complete cost for moove that 1790 01:26:11,159 --> 01:26:14,800 platform with the city staff okay so I 1791 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,080 think Mr drill I think they're 1792 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,960 suggesting they would contribute 3,000 1793 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,239 that's what you said so you're saying 1794 01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:23,920 that if the council wish to help it 1795 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,199 would be about 1796 01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:28,600 $4,000 um would be the enough money to 1797 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,679 make that happen that would be the 1798 01:26:29,679 --> 01:26:32,280 estimate amount yes okay councilor Canon 1799 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,760 I'll pass back to 1800 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,560 you um I guess I mean I would be willing 1801 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,600 to support them in that perhaps maybe we 1802 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,400 have money out of council 1803 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,440 initiatives okay um if you'd like to 1804 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:48,280 make a motion to take $4,000 from 1805 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,119 Council initiatives to do this project 1806 01:26:51,119 --> 01:26:53,000 then I would be open to that motion if 1807 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,639 there's a second or okay make that 1808 01:26:54,639 --> 01:26:57,119 motion councelor Flynn will second it do 1809 01:26:57,119 --> 01:26:58,239 you wish to speak to the motion 1810 01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:00,960 councelor Canon no I just think that 1811 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,400 this is something that we wanted uh to 1812 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,360 move ahead on and do so I think it's 1813 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,760 something that we should support thank 1814 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,840 you other speakers to that motion 1815 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:15,280 councelor um Flynn okay go ahead yeah 1816 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,639 speaking to the motion I support us 1817 01:27:17,639 --> 01:27:19,280 providing up to 1818 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,880 $4,000 I knowing we're doing the budget 1819 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,719 on Wednesday and knowing I don't think 1820 01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:26,920 we spent all our Council initiatives 1821 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,239 last year but I'm not sure I would ask 1822 01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:34,000 the CFO what happens to unspent council 1823 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,159 initiatives in budget do we have the 1824 01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:39,239 opportunity to roll them over and 1825 01:27:39,239 --> 01:27:41,800 accumulate this last year's with this 1826 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,080 year's uh and then the other question I 1827 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,719 have is councelor uh lingren made me 1828 01:27:46,719 --> 01:27:49,239 aware that we supposedly on paper still 1829 01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:53,280 have some money in a Canada 150 fund 1830 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,040 somewhere in the neighborhood of 1831 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,719 $137,000 or not 13 1832 01:27:57,719 --> 01:28:00,400 37,000 I wish it was 137 and I'm not 1833 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:01,679 sure if we could use that instead of 1834 01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:03,480 council initiatives so those are my 1835 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,280 questions Chief Financial Officer um 1836 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,280 regarding the council initiatives piece 1837 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,360 and any unused fund from 2024 do they 1838 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,159 roll 1839 01:28:13,159 --> 01:28:16,159 over threee warship the council 1840 01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,719 initiatives I've budgeted on a onetime 1841 01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:22,119 line and they do not roll forward into a 1842 01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:24,719 reserve per year and the current 1843 01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:26,360 budget you guys have probably seen 1844 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,040 already is 1845 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,280 $175,000 the reason why I put it as one 1846 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,679 time is because I've reviewed the last 1847 01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:34,440 few years had noticed that it wasn't 1848 01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:37,199 used and I didn't feel like creating one 1849 01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:40,920 more account or Reserve within the our 1850 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,800 long list okay so there's uh you're 1851 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,280 suggesting 17 a half thousand in the 1852 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,400 2025 budget and coun Canon's motion is 1853 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,880 to uh if she accepted Council LA's 1854 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,000 friendly amendment is up to four ,000 1855 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,239 from that account councilor Canon is 1856 01:28:57,239 --> 01:29:00,760 that correct um yeah I thought it was at 1857 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,790 4000 1858 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,320 after yeah I think yeah so are you 1859 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920 comfortable with up to 4,000 okay thank 1860 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,280 you um and the second is comfortable 1861 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,600 with that I am except I'd rather find 1862 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,840 another source if we can't use some of 1863 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,840 last year's so I don't know about this 1864 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,880 37,000 in the Canada 150 was the second 1865 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,040 part of my question okay I think 1866 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,440 councilor wall Richman might know 1867 01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:27,320 something about that 150 money but I'm 1868 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,639 not positive councelor Wallace Richmond 1869 01:29:29,639 --> 01:29:31,520 maybe I'm thinking of a different 1870 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,280 fund 1871 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,320 um my understanding was we we allocated 1872 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,639 that money those monies last year uh to 1873 01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:46,830 upgrade the corner where the Senate tap 1874 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,880 is so failing failing Clarity on that if 1875 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,119 there is money left in the um 1876 01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:56,199 Council 1877 01:29:56,199 --> 01:29:58,159 initiatives perhaps that's the best 1878 01:29:58,159 --> 01:29:59,440 motion to 1879 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,400 discuss okay um Council Flyn do you wish 1880 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,560 to comment further yeah so the fact 1881 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,159 there is money in Council initiatives 1882 01:30:07,159 --> 01:30:09,920 our brand new 175 that hasn't been 1883 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,560 allocated I am saying as a last resource 1884 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,119 I would support using it now in Council 1885 01:30:17,119 --> 01:30:19,360 initiatives I'd rather carry forward 1886 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:20,960 from last year if that's possible but it 1887 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,080 doesn't sound like it is or find out 1888 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,960 what happened with this 37,000 in that 1889 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,480 Canada 150 thank you um councelor 1890 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:34,239 lingren thanks your worship um so this 1891 01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:37,280 came up about uh maybe a month ago 1892 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,320 sabnis brought it to the attention of 1893 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,040 the city because they were looking for 1894 01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,400 some assistance to remove the bird beam 1895 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,600 platform it's decrepid and poses a risk 1896 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,800 to safety if uh we end up with teenagers 1897 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,719 out there at a party one night climbing 1898 01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:54,400 it um when they brought the idea to the 1899 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,080 city uh Darren did a costing and told 1900 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,600 them that it would be about $6,000 and 1901 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,480 so the reason they're putting up 3,000 1902 01:31:01,480 --> 01:31:02,840 of their own money is because they 1903 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,000 wanted to make sure that uh they were 1904 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:09,199 contributing 50% so I have no problem uh 1905 01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:11,639 going with three to $4,000 if we want to 1906 01:31:11,639 --> 01:31:15,360 spend more um I I also think that that 1907 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,520 Canada 150 account is empty and I'm not 1908 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,480 sure why it's showing money uh if 1909 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,119 there's money in it I suggest we spend 1910 01:31:22,119 --> 01:31:25,199 it on this uh there are also other areas 1911 01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:26,440 that I think where we could take the 1912 01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:28,719 money I think that the covid restart 1913 01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:32,520 Grant still has $71,000 in it and we've 1914 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:37,040 spent more than uh the 3.6 million I 1915 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,880 think already um so the money the 1916 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,040 71,000 that's in the account is an 1917 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,400 accumulation of interest on paper and 1918 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,280 should be able to be spent on just about 1919 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,480 anything I would think though I think 1920 01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:52,840 that the covid restart Grant would be um 1921 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,239 a usable uh place to get the money from 1922 01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:57,880 for this uh but one way or another I 1923 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,639 support a motion that we uh put up at 1924 01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:03,199 least 50% of the money and help get rid 1925 01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:05,800 of this uh platform so that there's a 1926 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,880 fresh start for the new platform to go 1927 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,480 in and uh this is the appropriate time 1928 01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:11,719 to do it because the equipment's already 1929 01:32:11,719 --> 01:32:15,920 on the foreshore doing the uh sewer main 1930 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,239 or sewer relining or whatever we called 1931 01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:19,800 it down there so I think that that would 1932 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,280 reduce the cost of uh for time 1933 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:24,920 especially 1934 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,159 great thank you councelor lingren and 1935 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,119 the present motion is to have the monies 1936 01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:33,430 come from Council initiatives councelor 1937 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:38,109 lavry yeah 1938 01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:41,159 um I think you wish this for me this is 1939 01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:42,880 I'm I'm in favor of the attent of the 1940 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,199 principal up to 4,000 and I can explain 1941 01:32:46,199 --> 01:32:48,400 why at a different time but I think that 1942 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,000 we need uh a I think this is part of the 1943 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,800 the budget discussion I agree with 1944 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,600 councelor Flynn if it's coming out of 1945 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,920 2025 Council initiatives 25 uh is a last 1946 01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:03,080 resort um I I'm not sure that I want to 1947 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,440 put staff on the spot here of saying 1948 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:08,440 what about Canada uh you know the the 1949 01:33:08,440 --> 01:33:11,960 Canada Day thing what about uh some of 1950 01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:13,840 the other possible accounts I think that 1951 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,440 we should leave that with them and defer 1952 01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:19,920 this to our budget discussions my second 1953 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,239 deferral of the day your worship 1954 01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:24,679 proposal is that a deferral motion that 1955 01:33:24,679 --> 01:33:26,639 you're making councelor it is is a 1956 01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:30,040 deferral motion to uh to the budget 1957 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,000 process is there a second or to the 1958 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,560 deferral motion councelor Flynn will 1959 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,719 second that motion um there's no 1960 01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:39,040 discussion of deferral all those in 1961 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,830 favor of the 1962 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,000 deferral councelor labry councelor 1963 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,800 Wallace WR and councelor flynner in 1964 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,679 favor the defer motion does not pass 1965 01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:51,119 we'll go back to the table and consider 1966 01:33:51,119 --> 01:33:54,440 the motion which is to contribute up to 1967 01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:57,239 $4,000 from Council initiatives to 1968 01:33:57,239 --> 01:34:00,760 assist sabnis with a removal of uh this 1969 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,080 deck any speakers to that motion 1970 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,239 councelor Flynn I'm going to ask the 1971 01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:07,560 Mover because I believe it was you 1972 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,480 councelor Canon um if we could word the 1973 01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:14,960 motion that up to $4,000 from a fund 1974 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,360 councilor Flynn if you want to amend the 1975 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,199 motion you can try amending the motion 1976 01:34:18,199 --> 01:34:19,760 you don't talk to the Mover about 1977 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,080 amending it that goes through the chair 1978 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,719 I would like to amend the motion 1979 01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:27,639 to change the wording to from Council 1980 01:34:27,639 --> 01:34:34,149 initiatives to from a source to be 1981 01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:37,040 determined that makes the most sense 1982 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,320 councelor Flynn that that would be a 1983 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,360 different motion so I'm sorry I can't 1984 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,440 accept that as an amendment okay I'll 1985 01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:44,760 vote against the motion he councelor 1986 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,480 Canon speaking to the amendment or to 1987 01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:49,360 the motion well I'm very glad that this 1988 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,400 motion didn't get deferred even though 1989 01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,320 we couldn't speak about it if it would 1990 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,280 have 1991 01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,840 because I think councelor lingren makes 1992 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,000 a really good point we have we will have 1993 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,880 the equipment down there doing work so 1994 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,199 time is of the essence it doesn't need 1995 01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:07,080 to get wrapped up in bureaucracy of 1996 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,679 where the money's coming from I know 1997 01:35:09,679 --> 01:35:12,440 that last at our last council meeting we 1998 01:35:12,440 --> 01:35:15,159 took money from Council initiatives and 1999 01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:17,159 it wasn't talked about that it was out 2000 01:35:17,159 --> 01:35:20,119 of this year's budget and this pot and 2001 01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:22,679 that pot and that was uh to give money 2002 01:35:22,679 --> 01:35:25,679 towards having a celebration party this 2003 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:27,360 is a very 2004 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,400 important project and we know how much 2005 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,360 that trail gets used so I think this is 2006 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,440 money very well spent and this is an 2007 01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:38,920 important thing to do while we have the 2008 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,080 equipment down 2009 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,679 there hey thank you um further speakers 2010 01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:48,360 councelor lingren thanks your worship um 2011 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,040 I think I asked a question the last time 2012 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,199 I was up and was wondering if the if 2013 01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:54,840 staff could could speak about the covid 2014 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,600 restart Grant and whether or not we can 2015 01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:00,080 take the money from there okay um Chief 2016 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,400 uh Financial 2017 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,920 Officer uh the covid re uh restart money 2018 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,560 is funds are sitting there we've set 2019 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:09,760 them 2020 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:14,560 aside for the future trying not to at 2021 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,280 least set a few Pockets here and there 2022 01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,000 to be discussed further on budget day 2023 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,760 but those funds are not spoken for at 2024 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:23,760 this moment thank you Council lingren 2025 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,280 yeah I did see that there was quite a 2026 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,639 bit of that money uh earmarked for 2027 01:36:27,639 --> 01:36:29,159 projects that are going to be completed 2028 01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:30,239 in 2029 01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:33,280 2025 and after all of those projects are 2030 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,920 funded there's still $71,000 so uh I 2031 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,000 would like to make 2032 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,360 uh Amendment to the pocket of money and 2033 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,239 make it the covid restart Grant rather 2034 01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:46,440 than Council initiatives I will accept 2035 01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:48,719 that Amendment um because it's specific 2036 01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:50,440 is there a second to that Amendment 2037 01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:54,109 councelor Flynn 2038 01:36:54,119 --> 01:36:56,360 discussion around that 2039 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,719 Amendment my discussion will be I'll 2040 01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:02,080 support it I think we those of read the 2041 01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,119 budget know all those pockets and we've 2042 01:37:04,119 --> 01:37:06,040 got our eyes on them for this budget 2043 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,199 whether that money comes out of out of 2044 01:37:08,199 --> 01:37:10,840 council initiatives out of that budget 2045 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,480 or any of the other ones at the front of 2046 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:14,560 that budget don't really make any 2047 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,080 difference because we're going to be 2048 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,679 looking to spend that money um when when 2049 01:37:18,679 --> 01:37:20,520 we have budget discussion here so I 2050 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,840 don't mind supporting the amendment um 2051 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,239 yeah no troubles councelor Flynn did you 2052 01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:28,159 wish to speak to the amendment speak in 2053 01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:29,360 favor of the amendment but did have a 2054 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,520 question related to the amendment um we 2055 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,040 had originally talked about deferral we 2056 01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,920 can't discuss deferral in my 2057 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,119 understanding it was for two days till 2058 01:37:38,119 --> 01:37:40,560 the budget process but can I ask staff 2059 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,840 how long the equipment will be there and 2060 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,639 how long we have to get the work done 2061 01:37:44,639 --> 01:37:46,480 because I don't think deferring two days 2062 01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:49,040 would have been an issue sure we we can 2063 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,360 ask the director of engineering Public 2064 01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:54,280 Works uh regarding the the project 2065 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,119 your worship the the foreshore main 2066 01:37:56,119 --> 01:37:59,119 relining is is going to take several 2067 01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:01,199 months to do so they'll be down there 2068 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,400 for a significant amount of time and I 2069 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:04,880 suspect that it'll be in cooperation 2070 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,000 with City staff as well 2071 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,400 so I will vote in favor of the amendment 2072 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,280 because I don't want to tie our hands on 2073 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,159 Council initiatives especially in what I 2074 01:38:13,159 --> 01:38:14,760 know is going to be a difficult budget 2075 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,199 year so thank you hey thank you 2076 01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,920 councelor Flint any other speakers 2077 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,320 counselor labry I don't want to miss you 2078 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,800 out um I think think I think you just 2079 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,480 pressed your you just indicated you wish 2080 01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:28,840 to speak please go ahead it's not on the 2081 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:30,159 amendment your worship I'll I'll wait 2082 01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:33,159 till after okay any other speakers to 2083 01:38:33,159 --> 01:38:33,920 the 2084 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,119 amendment and the amendment is to change 2085 01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:37,560 the source of where the monies would 2086 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,599 come 2087 01:38:39,599 --> 01:38:41,840 from seeing none I'll call a question 2088 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,510 all those in favor of the 2089 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,880 amendment that passes 2090 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,719 unanimously now the count the motion as 2091 01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:55,629 amended I'll go to councelor lavry First 2092 01:38:55,639 --> 01:38:57,840 uh thank you worship um no I think as 2093 01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,719 things have um progressed I I I'll 2094 01:39:01,719 --> 01:39:04,159 support the motion at hand this is I I 2095 01:39:04,159 --> 01:39:06,280 haven't heard anyone at the table here 2096 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,440 talk about the importance the immediacy 2097 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:10,800 of this the need to flange it up with 2098 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,760 the work that's being done there it's 2099 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,679 really is the source of uh where the 2100 01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:17,920 revenue would come from for from a very 2101 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,360 unique situation I think we need to be 2102 01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,679 responsive and I think we can so I'm I 2103 01:39:22,679 --> 01:39:24,080 fully support what's in front of us 2104 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:24,800 thank 2105 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,800 you thank you any other speakers to the 2106 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,119 motion as 2107 01:39:30,119 --> 01:39:32,239 amended seeing none I'll call a question 2108 01:39:32,239 --> 01:39:34,239 all those in 2109 01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:37,199 favor that passes unanimously thank you 2110 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:38,639 Council thank you for your assistant 2111 01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:42,080 staff and getting that uh to us other 2112 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,679 items on informational correspondence 2113 01:39:44,679 --> 01:39:46,440 councelor Flynn 2114 01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:50,880 12.15 can we just pass that on to Mr jro 2115 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,159 or the director of engineering and 2116 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:53,560 Public Works to work with the 2117 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,280 organization is that all we need at this 2118 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,040 table just check with our chief 2119 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,360 administrative officer we don't need a 2120 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,080 motion to do that do 2121 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,159 we your Worship in the past my 2122 01:40:03,159 --> 01:40:04,760 understanding is that it was referred to 2123 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,440 the rec Society it it was at council's 2124 01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:09,599 table for some time if council's 2125 01:40:09,599 --> 01:40:12,159 comfortable referring it then that's 2126 01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:15,320 completely okay do we need a motion um 2127 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,040 no you can leave it with us okay if 2128 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,520 anyone wants to speak other than that 2129 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,320 please let us know and we can form 2130 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,480 normalize 2131 01:40:25,480 --> 01:40:27,719 that okay I think everybody's satisfied 2132 01:40:27,719 --> 01:40:29,639 with that thank you councelor Flynn 2133 01:40:29,639 --> 01:40:30,880 anyone else wish to speak to 2134 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,950 informational 2135 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,800 correspondence okay I think some of you 2136 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,360 have looked at 2137 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:43,080 12.1.3 Mr wier's uh shwap Lifeboat 2138 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,639 Society activities video If you haven't 2139 01:40:45,639 --> 01:40:47,840 seen the video it's worth taking 15 2140 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,280 minutes to watch it it's very well done 2141 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:51,719 and very 2142 01:40:51,719 --> 01:40:53,800 informative okay I see no other speakers 2143 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,880 to that our guests are 2144 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,840 here hello Christie hi thank you for 2145 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,239 being here please come forward and thank 2146 01:41:03,239 --> 01:41:05,159 you Tracy also you would like a little 2147 01:41:05,159 --> 01:41:07,159 slot at the end right Tracy okay we'll 2148 01:41:07,159 --> 01:41:08,400 make sure we do 2149 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,679 that okay councelor ganella you're going 2150 01:41:10,679 --> 01:41:13,080 to leave at this time aren't you all 2151 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:35,229 right 2152 01:41:35,239 --> 01:41:38,239 sorry please go ahead thank you for 2153 01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:42,360 coming to and reporting to usks for me 2154 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:43,360 don't know my 2155 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,470 name 2156 01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:51,599 exor microphone please I'll get closer 2157 01:41:51,599 --> 01:41:53,639 my name is Christy Watson executive 2158 01:41:53,639 --> 01:41:56,440 director of District Arts Council and 2159 01:41:56,440 --> 01:41:58,480 many of you know the Arts Council at the 2160 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:01,280 Zam Arts Center and I want to start by 2161 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,599 thanking mayor and councel for the 2162 01:42:03,599 --> 01:42:06,119 recent increase to our fee for service 2163 01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:08,159 the stability and capacity that this 2164 01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:10,679 provides will increase our impact on the 2165 01:42:10,679 --> 01:42:13,320 region and will also keep us competitive 2166 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,440 in the provincial and National Grant 2167 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:17,520 competitions as more and more we're 2168 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,360 seeing funders want to see 2169 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:28,510 organizational stability um towards 2170 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:29,760 so I've got lot I want to share with you 2171 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,440 today so I'm going to go through pretty 2172 01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,159 quickly so we can leave some time the 2173 01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:34,800 end to go anything with a little more 2174 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,400 detail if so I just want to begin with 2175 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,719 our 2176 01:42:39,719 --> 01:42:41,679 budget if I could interrupt that 2177 01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:43,480 microphone please where it's very hard 2178 01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,229 to 2179 01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:49,719 hear sorry about that so our um our 2180 01:42:49,719 --> 01:42:52,560 budget revenues for uh for last year we 2181 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,360 can see 2182 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:59,430 myass 3, 2183 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:03,320 36652 Sal arm uh city of Salmon Arm 2184 01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,880 contributions represent about 15% of our 2185 01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,920 total revenues our largest source of 2186 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,360 revenues is Project grant funding 2187 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,910 followed by operational 2188 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,639 grants and in expenses we have a balance 2189 01:43:17,639 --> 01:43:20,719 budget this past year most of what we 2190 01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:23,119 spend money on are salaries followed by 2191 01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:25,280 artist fees and program contracts that 2192 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,159 represents what 83% of our budget goes 2193 01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:31,199 directly to people living in and around 2194 01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:34,639 s most so I'm very I'm pleased to be 2195 01:43:34,639 --> 01:43:37,719 able to provide as much economic support 2196 01:43:37,719 --> 01:43:39,119 for 2197 01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:41,239 individuals across all programs our 2198 01:43:41,239 --> 01:43:43,199 total attendance was 2199 01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,840 8,711 and the total artists that were 2200 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:55,149 engaged for the past 2201 01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:57,679 so our work is uh made possible through 2202 01:43:57,679 --> 01:43:59,119 uh a lot of Partnerships a lot of 2203 01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:00,840 collaboration we're very pleased to 2204 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,480 partner last year sh up IM Services 2205 01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:07,199 Society C sh re sto sh children's 2206 01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:10,119 Society songs barel Hallen theater sh 2207 01:44:10,119 --> 01:44:12,119 theater Society rise up indigenous 2208 01:44:12,119 --> 01:44:15,239 Wellness SC first na B SAR Economic 2209 01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:18,870 Development society and downtown 2210 01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,360 s these wonderful organizations and in 2211 01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,320 addition support we received from the 2212 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,159 city we are also fed by the BC Arts 2213 01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:28,760 Council BC tourism BC direct access 2214 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:37,629 gaming BC touring Council sh foundation 2215 01:44:37,639 --> 01:44:40,880 and so we'll start by uh going into our 2216 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,840 programming so that we can see what all 2217 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,000 that looks like starting with the sound 2218 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,480 arm Art Gallery exhibitions for 2219 01:44:47,480 --> 01:44:50,520 20124 we started last year with a 2220 01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,239 exhibition called environments for 2221 01:44:52,239 --> 01:44:53,800 reading 2222 01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,719 cozy notes for reading and 2223 01:44:57,719 --> 01:45:00,040 reflection and a large community 2224 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,360 collaboration where a bunch of PODS were 2225 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,760 built that knitting and cting and so so 2226 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:17,629 together and we um we sold all 2227 01:45:17,639 --> 01:45:21,360 those followed uh foll that show was 2228 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,119 which is a word a 2229 01:45:24,119 --> 01:45:27,719 tree and it featured uh 12 artists 2230 01:45:27,719 --> 01:45:30,679 exploring trees and artistic responses 2231 01:45:30,679 --> 01:45:51,910 to 2232 01:45:51,920 --> 01:46:21,910 that 2233 01:46:21,920 --> 01:47:33,390 e e 2234 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,119 I don't think so because I hear see your 2235 01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:38,239 light so uh councelor lavy councelor 2236 01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:41,750 Wallace Richmond can you hear 2237 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,719 me uh I can hear you I can hear you as 2238 01:47:45,719 --> 01:47:48,360 well sir your worship okay you can hear 2239 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:49,920 me okay so it's something to do with 2240 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:51,920 what's going on up there we'll work on 2241 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:56,239 it we've gone from low sound to no 2242 01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:59,440 sound okay it's not our speaker's fault 2243 01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:03,719 um it must be some technical problem so 2244 01:48:03,719 --> 01:48:05,719 we're working okay just progress it' be 2245 01:48:05,719 --> 01:48:12,950 fine 2246 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,719 thanks anything 2247 01:48:15,719 --> 01:48:18,920 now councelor lavry can you hear him 2248 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,440 now this is me 2249 01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:24,239 talking uh it's it's very very low and I 2250 01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:25,840 got my speakers turned up to the top you 2251 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,400 worship so there's something it's 2252 01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,119 something uh electronic there we'll take 2253 01:48:30,119 --> 01:48:31,800 you to we'll take Christie to a 2254 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:38,910 different mic he's very 2255 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,199 flexible how's that how's 2256 01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:45,400 that how are are you hearing me now oh 2257 01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,760 yes we can you comment on the covid-19 2258 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,520 budget the covid-19 budget gez well 2259 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,239 where to begin 2260 01:48:53,239 --> 01:48:55,880 okay please go ahead sorry sorry 2261 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,040 counselors but I think we're okay now 2262 01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,560 thanks very much this is very cozy over 2263 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:00,320 here 2264 01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,679 now uh let's see here so we're just 2265 01:49:02,679 --> 01:49:04,480 wrapping up the so the Drag Brunch we've 2266 01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:06,440 been running as part of the lad BR 2267 01:49:06,440 --> 01:49:08,440 celebration for a few years it's 2268 01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:10,360 extremely popular and and wonderful to 2269 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,239 see people of all ages eating together 2270 01:49:13,239 --> 01:49:15,199 sharing laughs and entertainment 2271 01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:17,360 inclusion and 2272 01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,000 openness next up is tote theater on the 2273 01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,560 edge which is uh a new Initiative for us 2274 01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,480 we part it's been going on for the last 2275 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:26,520 decade run by the shwap theater and we 2276 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,280 partnered with shwab theater last year 2277 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,760 to present tote uh we presented a range 2278 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,080 of really interesting shows including uh 2279 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,719 shipa with Kent and 2280 01:49:36,719 --> 01:49:39,360 Thomas um this show is called it's a 2281 01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,679 little scroll down this is June bug by 2282 01:49:41,679 --> 01:49:43,560 uh ragam muffin Theater which is a 2283 01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:46,080 theater for all ages 2284 01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,560 show uh we presented a show called Dey 2285 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,360 by a company called uh follow the signs 2286 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,080 theater from Calgary this was written 2287 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:55,960 and performed by a profoundly deaf 2288 01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,520 artist about his experience coming to 2289 01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:58,880 terms with 2290 01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,960 that we also presented a show called 2291 01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,520 Playing Fields by the chop theater uh 2292 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:08,280 and we did that show outside at Jackson 2293 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,520 Field and we did a show by runaway Moon 2294 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,280 theater called how did you get here 2295 01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,639 which featured four different shows that 2296 01:50:15,639 --> 01:50:18,400 all pop out of a small 2297 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,719 suitcase Wednesday on the warf of course 2298 01:50:20,719 --> 01:50:23,599 takes place as it always does every 2299 01:50:23,599 --> 01:50:25,880 summer uh it's always wonderful to see 2300 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,239 so many people out for this this free 2301 01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:30,440 community Gathering um there's nine 2302 01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:32,000 shows in total I'll just give you a 2303 01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,080 couple highlights uh the Kayla Williams 2304 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,599 and the yacht dades yacht rock band 2305 01:50:37,599 --> 01:50:40,920 really brought down the house fantastic 2306 01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,599 show and uh we're always very happy to 2307 01:50:43,599 --> 01:50:45,159 to partner with roots and blues for one 2308 01:50:45,159 --> 01:50:47,040 of the shows each Wednesday on the warf 2309 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,440 this one was Bueno rostro which was an 2310 01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:53,360 indigenous Latin uh jazz band 2311 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,719 we were really uh very happy with the 2312 01:50:55,719 --> 01:50:57,560 the turnout for the presentation of a 2313 01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,480 band called en Karma which is a bangra 2314 01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:01,360 band we tried something a little bit new 2315 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,119 this year where we made some uh show 2316 01:51:04,119 --> 01:51:05,679 specific flyers for this one in 2317 01:51:05,679 --> 01:51:08,320 particular was uh in English and Punjabi 2318 01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,239 and we put extra effort into going to or 2319 01:51:11,239 --> 01:51:13,199 rather astred varns put an extra effort 2320 01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:15,639 into going to um businesses local 2321 01:51:15,639 --> 01:51:16,920 businesses around town with connections 2322 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:18,639 to the South Asian Community to really 2323 01:51:18,639 --> 01:51:20,239 make sure that the word was getting out 2324 01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:22,679 to everyone and the the turnout was 2325 01:51:22,679 --> 01:51:24,280 really diverse really wonderful and it 2326 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,079 was a great great night we look forward 2327 01:51:26,079 --> 01:51:28,119 to working with them 2328 01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:31,880 again and of course our uh our paow uh 2329 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,679 pilot which was the last event in WoW uh 2330 01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:38,040 was so beautiful so wonderful uh really 2331 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,639 well attended thanks so much to the the 2332 01:51:40,639 --> 01:51:42,719 city for their support of this which we 2333 01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:45,679 hope to make part of wow every year just 2334 01:51:45,679 --> 01:51:57,030 show you a couple quick photos here 2335 01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,639 couple of little ancillary things we do 2336 01:51:58,639 --> 01:52:00,280 or maybe not so little this is the big 2337 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,760 yellow tent which we now have up in the 2338 01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,840 uh spring summer fall months and people 2339 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,400 can sit here and have a their coffee or 2340 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,280 their lunch or small gathering can be 2341 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:12,719 held and we're looking for more ways to 2342 01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:16,159 animate this outdoor space we also 2343 01:52:16,159 --> 01:52:18,239 received a grant from the BC Arts found 2344 01:52:18,239 --> 01:52:22,320 Arts um uh British Columbia Arts Council 2345 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,360 to to uh revamp our community art 2346 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:25,960 collection room so we have lovely 2347 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,159 rolling shelving now so we can really 2348 01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:30,079 invest in that and find ways to make 2349 01:52:30,079 --> 01:52:35,750 that more accessible to our 2350 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,840 community and of course we take every 2351 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,480 opportunity to uh have do arts based 2352 01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:42,239 Community Development works there's just 2353 01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:43,960 a few examples are Truth and 2354 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,480 Reconciliation Day the Earth Day 2355 01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:49,119 celebration featuring runaway moons uh 2356 01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:52,920 weaving project the treat Trail a Switz 2357 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,800 mou story sharing project we're working 2358 01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,800 on with Louie Thomas and we've been also 2359 01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,480 were had fun working with the Shoop IM 2360 01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:02,199 Services Hive after school program 2361 01:53:02,199 --> 01:53:04,119 bringing some artists to their program 2362 01:53:04,119 --> 01:53:05,599 there's Kenton there on the bottom left 2363 01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:07,239 telling some stories to 2364 01:53:07,239 --> 01:53:10,440 Youth and uh I wanted to also give a 2365 01:53:10,440 --> 01:53:12,800 quick fiveyear solar planel report now 2366 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,840 that we're five years into that project 2367 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,360 which is going really really well just a 2368 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,000 couple just a kind of brief overview for 2369 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,800 average annual production consumption 2370 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:23,040 and costs 2371 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,000 the uh production of the solar panels is 2372 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,639 approximately 10 megawatt hours per year 2373 01:53:28,639 --> 01:53:30,520 so as a savings that represents about 2374 01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:34,440 four tons of CO2 about approximately 2375 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:38,000 60,000 kilometers of driving cost-wise 2376 01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,320 that's a savings of 2377 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,639 $1,325 so when compared to the grid 2378 01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:45,880 energy we use every year which is um 2379 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,000 about 8 megawatt hours the cost of that 2380 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,040 is 2381 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,719 $1,110 um the majority of that use is by 2382 01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:57,480 the pottery club's Kiln which we tracked 2383 01:53:57,480 --> 01:54:00,040 over a period of time and discovered 2384 01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,159 that that was came to a cost of about 2385 01:54:02,159 --> 01:54:05,440 $975 which the pottery Club is covering 2386 01:54:05,440 --> 01:54:07,639 the cost of as part of their uh rental 2387 01:54:07,639 --> 01:54:10,280 agreement with us so we end up spending 2388 01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,639 about $135 a year on energy for the 2389 01:54:13,639 --> 01:54:16,760 entire uh building which is really uh 2390 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,599 fantastic thing so what of course can we 2391 01:54:19,599 --> 01:54:21,000 do with 2392 01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,800 $1,325 well at the Arts Center we can do 2393 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,199 a lot and here's a few examples uh we 2394 01:54:26,199 --> 01:54:27,880 can collaborate with rise up indigenous 2395 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,760 Wellness on a mural project for urban 2396 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:31,639 indigenous youth led by local artists 2397 01:54:31,639 --> 01:54:35,000 and educator Sarah wans or we can 2398 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:36,239 partner with Sho up children's 2399 01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:38,119 Association to host an eight-week drop 2400 01:54:38,119 --> 01:54:40,440 in break dance series led by Manny 2401 01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,639 Christensen or we can work with CMHA to 2402 01:54:43,639 --> 01:54:45,560 present a crosscultural storytelling 2403 01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,440 exchange with Kenan Thomas and Donna 2404 01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:50,599 Michelle St Bernard at the CMHA learning 2405 01:54:50,599 --> 01:54:53,040 Studios so we can do an awful lot with a 2406 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,639 small amount of money there and we 2407 01:54:54,639 --> 01:54:56,920 really put it to good use and really 2408 01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:00,400 appreciate all the the support that we 2409 01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,840 receive so that's all from me about our 2410 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,280 report I'd like to uh invite Now Tracy 2411 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,480 Kucher up to share a few final words and 2412 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:10,840 if there's any questions afterwards I'm 2413 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,000 happy to speak to anything in more 2414 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,199 detail thank you very much thank you 2415 01:55:14,199 --> 01:55:16,840 very much Christie and uh Tracy great to 2416 01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,560 see you please come forward you guys can 2417 01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:20,920 sit side by side there if you 2418 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:27,189 like oh look we all 2419 01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:30,400 have welcome Tracy very nice to see you 2420 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,719 thank you and I very much appreciate 2421 01:55:32,719 --> 01:55:34,880 this opportunity to speak to you today 2422 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,520 um I wanted to just have one and a half 2423 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:40,639 minutes to um to just have um an 2424 01:55:40,639 --> 01:55:42,920 opportunity to thank you really uh the 2425 01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,800 first time I stood in front of city 2426 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,800 council Colin ma was in the mayor's 2427 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,239 chair and you mayor Harrison was were a 2428 01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:52,520 city counselor who was fondly referred 2429 01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:53,920 to as the Minister of 2430 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,239 Finance and I do remember that um you 2431 01:55:58,239 --> 01:55:59,760 asked a lot of even long before we 2432 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,639 talked about funding for the Arts Arts 2433 01:56:01,639 --> 01:56:03,520 Council you asked a lot of financial 2434 01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,320 questions and I wanted you to know that 2435 01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,480 it made me very diligent about counting 2436 01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,520 every dollar that came into and went out 2437 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,040 of the Arts Council thank you for that 2438 01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:16,280 um I wanted to uh also remember that 2439 01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,159 when Mayor Marty bzma was here um I 2440 01:56:19,159 --> 01:56:21,800 asked him to if he would consider the 2441 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:23,599 Arts Council becoming the cultural arm 2442 01:56:23,599 --> 01:56:25,679 of city council and he said I thought 2443 01:56:25,679 --> 01:56:30,119 you already were and so from that moment 2444 01:56:30,119 --> 01:56:32,679 I started to look at our relationship uh 2445 01:56:32,679 --> 01:56:37,000 more as a partnership and I I wanted to 2446 01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,480 um I wanted to work uh to deliver 2447 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,880 cultural services on your behalf and of 2448 01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,760 course um we wanted to reach as many 2449 01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,280 citizens as possible year round and 2450 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:47,840 through a wide variety of accessible 2451 01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:49,639 programs and also take care of that 2452 01:56:49,639 --> 01:56:51,960 incredibly beautiful Heritage building 2453 01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,400 and I I believe that we've built trust 2454 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,440 and respect in that partnership over the 2455 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,040 years so throughout the establishment of 2456 01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,400 the operating agreement uh through the 2457 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,880 cultural master plan through the pride 2458 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:06,119 project and many public art projects um 2459 01:57:06,119 --> 01:57:08,599 I felt I have always felt boyed by the 2460 01:57:08,599 --> 01:57:11,119 continued support and enthusiasm by city 2461 01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:14,480 council and Senior staff and especially 2462 01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:16,840 in these last few years uh because we 2463 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,280 are adapting to Rapid change and I fully 2464 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,719 appreciated that so as I now leave the 2465 01:57:21,719 --> 01:57:24,880 organization in a very healthy place um 2466 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:26,719 I feel like that is in large part due to 2467 01:57:26,719 --> 01:57:29,000 the support of the city of Salon arm and 2468 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,360 of course um I I may see you again it's 2469 01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,520 a small town small City Big Ideas um I 2470 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,119 may see you again in another capacity 2471 01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:38,599 but for now I just wanted to say Cooks 2472 01:57:38,599 --> 01:57:41,280 Jem thank you for all the wonderful 2473 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:44,560 times well thank you very much Tracy 2474 01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:56,910 really appreciate you 2475 01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,400 I remember May uh Mayor 2476 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,199 Marty saying that and 2477 01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:05,440 uh you were the arm of the arm of the 2478 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,639 culture of Salmon Arm so you've brought 2479 01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:12,800 that a long ways and we appreciate um we 2480 01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,400 appreciate all you've done you're right 2481 01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,280 I I do like to watch pennies and dimes 2482 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,040 and nickels but I have to say that I 2483 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,800 think we've had amazing value the 2484 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,280 citizens of Salmon Arm for our the 2485 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,280 monies that we've spent and so thank you 2486 01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,199 for that and I can see that carrying 2487 01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:32,000 forward just looking at the report 2488 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,119 today counselors I'm going to open it up 2489 01:58:34,119 --> 01:58:36,599 to you to any uh comments you'd like to 2490 01:58:36,599 --> 01:58:38,639 make either questions or comments to 2491 01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:40,920 Christie or to Tracy we'll start with 2492 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,480 councelor lingren thanks you worship and 2493 01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:45,360 thanks to Tracy and Christie for the 2494 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,440 work that you do in Salmon Arm it's 2495 01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:51,079 incredible um I think that the Arts 2496 01:58:51,079 --> 01:58:53,480 Council has done far more than just 2497 01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,159 celebrate art uh in Salmon Arm and if 2498 01:58:56,159 --> 01:58:59,800 your goal was to create um to build 2499 01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:02,840 culture create a safe and diverse space 2500 01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,239 and to reach people you've done that and 2501 01:59:05,239 --> 01:59:09,320 so much more um I'm a bit surprised that 2502 01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,560 your casual speech there I I think you 2503 01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,480 just told us you resigned or you've 2504 01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:16,400 retired perhaps um and you just sort of 2505 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:20,119 slid that past without any Fanfare so um 2506 01:59:20,119 --> 01:59:21,760 I just want to say that it's been an 2507 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:23,639 incred experience sitting up here and 2508 01:59:23,639 --> 01:59:25,560 watching the work that you guys do and 2509 01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,599 we appreciate all of it and the 2510 01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:30,199 invitations for us to come and 2511 01:59:30,199 --> 01:59:32,760 participate thank you councelor lingren 2512 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,400 councelor Wallace 2513 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:37,480 Richmond thank you so much and I'm so 2514 01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:40,119 sorry I couldn't be there today to offer 2515 01:59:40,119 --> 01:59:45,360 um a a handshake and more likely a hug 2516 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,719 um I just want to address first my 2517 01:59:47,719 --> 01:59:51,800 comments to Tracy uh Tracy uh the mayor 2518 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:55,719 said you're the arm and I would actually 2519 01:59:55,719 --> 01:59:57,360 um challenge him I think you're more 2520 01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:01,040 like the heart of of the Arts community 2521 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,960 and the connections that have been built 2522 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,440 um over these many many years um through 2523 02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,480 your dedication your kindness your 2524 02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,920 belief in in samon arm samon arm is a 2525 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:17,199 much more connected Place uh uh than 2526 02:00:17,199 --> 02:00:20,679 it's ever been and a lot of that heart 2527 02:00:20,679 --> 02:00:22,560 lives in that building so 2528 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,960 for you and for Eric and for your family 2529 02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:28,760 I mean from from the chief cookie maker 2530 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:33,159 on uh on down your whole family has put 2531 02:00:33,159 --> 02:00:35,760 your heart into that building um and 2532 02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,880 into the programming and you we are so 2533 02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,480 profoundly grateful to have had you for 2534 02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:45,960 as long as we did and um you have big 2535 02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,960 shoes to fill Christie just so you know 2536 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,639 um and but we will continue to support 2537 02:00:51,639 --> 02:00:53,440 you because we see the model and the 2538 02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,239 model works when your District Arts 2539 02:00:56,239 --> 02:00:59,000 Council is partnered with your 2540 02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:02,599 municipality um we accomplish uh goals 2541 02:01:02,599 --> 02:01:05,040 of building a stronger more 2542 02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:09,520 inclusive uh Kinder uh more thoughtful 2543 02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:12,079 uh more beautiful um and a healthier 2544 02:01:12,079 --> 02:01:15,040 community so I'm very grateful for that 2545 02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:18,560 and I and I look forward to what happens 2546 02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,199 uh next art um just like heart doesn't 2547 02:01:22,199 --> 02:01:24,520 have a beginning uh middle and an end it 2548 02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,840 goes on forever so I'm grateful thank 2549 02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,880 you so 2550 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,960 much thank you councelor Wallace 2551 02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:33,159 Richmond and uh I will accept that 2552 02:01:33,159 --> 02:01:36,360 Amendment heart for arm without second 2553 02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:38,800 or much better 2554 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,079 actually my Council sometimes when I 2555 02:01:41,079 --> 02:01:42,480 don't accept the amendment of the 2556 02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:43,960 amendment they're a little curious but 2557 02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,199 that one I take Council Flynn thank you 2558 02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:49,560 worship I'm just going to thank uh you 2559 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:51,199 on behalf of the community and I've 2560 02:01:51,199 --> 02:01:53,239 always joked at this table when I've 2561 02:01:53,239 --> 02:01:55,440 been working beside counselor Wallace 2562 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,079 Richmond that she's been kind of my 2563 02:01:57,079 --> 02:02:00,320 social and artistic Muse or whatever you 2564 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,159 would call her I've learned a lot from 2565 02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:06,440 her but I'm not surprisingly she she 2566 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:07,920 said what I was going to say and I was 2567 02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:10,000 going to say it in a different way but 2568 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:14,040 behind every great person like you every 2569 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,840 great woman is a good guy and I think of 2570 02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,840 you guys and your 2571 02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:24,360 family it's been the team and I thank 2572 02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:28,639 you thank him and uh I'm not quite known 2573 02:02:28,639 --> 02:02:32,560 as the finance guy like the mayor is but 2574 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:35,000 I would say there's not many 2575 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:36,960 organizations where we get as a 2576 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:41,350 community more value for the dollars we 2577 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,480 contribute thank you councelor Flynn 2578 02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:47,149 councelor 2579 02:02:47,159 --> 02:02:49,639 lavry yes thanks your worship uh Tracy 2580 02:02:49,639 --> 02:02:51,960 thanks so much I uh I I'm just going to 2581 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,280 Echo what others have said and thank you 2582 02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,679 um not only the arm and the heart but 2583 02:02:56,679 --> 02:03:00,960 the mind as well um you have uh provided 2584 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,119 Direction uh you've managed from the 2585 02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:06,199 middle and uh taken us forward so Tracy 2586 02:03:06,199 --> 02:03:09,719 thank you for that I I just uh you know 2587 02:03:09,719 --> 02:03:12,520 we're all struck by the developments uh 2588 02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:17,119 in recent days and weeks here and how 2589 02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:21,360 your not only dedication but injecting 2590 02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,040 the importance of 2591 02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:24,920 inclusivity of 2592 02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:29,800 equity of uh embracing a range of our 2593 02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,880 citizens um is becoming more and more 2594 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,639 important as as we go forward here and 2595 02:03:35,639 --> 02:03:37,440 given 2596 02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:40,320 the the impending dark clouds that that 2597 02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,440 are that are happening in places so I I 2598 02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,000 want to thank you for that leadership I 2599 02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,599 know you'll continue on that in the 2600 02:03:46,599 --> 02:03:49,599 community and uh I'm very grateful that 2601 02:03:49,599 --> 02:03:52,320 uh you've provided that leadership so 2602 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,320 Tracy thank you very much for that to 2603 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,159 chrisy thanks for your report I just 2604 02:03:57,159 --> 02:03:58,440 want to comment a little bit on the 2605 02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,320 solar project I I know I have been 2606 02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:01,679 talking I'm not sure if that came 2607 02:04:01,679 --> 02:04:03,239 independently i' had asked Tracy it 2608 02:04:03,239 --> 02:04:05,360 would be good to hear an update about 2609 02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:08,800 that mainly because we spend all sorts 2610 02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:10,800 of money and decisions on infrastructure 2611 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:14,040 some of it harder most of it underground 2612 02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:17,440 most of it you can't see most of it it's 2613 02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,199 really hard to determine the ROI of a 2614 02:04:20,199 --> 02:04:23,360 project but to get this 5-year report 2615 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,920 where uh once taken off the money 2616 02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:29,559 generated from the solar and taken off 2617 02:04:29,559 --> 02:04:33,320 the power the pottery Club Kiln 2618 02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,159 $135 a year for 2619 02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:39,360 electricity based on the solar panel 2620 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,679 install that was done five years ago it 2621 02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:43,079 doesn't get better than that and I just 2622 02:04:43,079 --> 02:04:46,679 want to uh from a uh a council position 2623 02:04:46,679 --> 02:04:49,000 say that these it's not only a good news 2624 02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,360 story but it's great to get those 2625 02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:52,280 numbers over time 2626 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,679 for some of the softer infrastructure 2627 02:04:54,679 --> 02:04:56,679 that we do so thanks for providing that 2628 02:04:56,679 --> 02:04:59,440 as well Christie look forward to uh big 2629 02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:01,079 shoes to fill I'm sure you will fill 2630 02:05:01,079 --> 02:05:03,360 them and uh look forward down the line 2631 02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:04,960 thank you very 2632 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,679 much thank 2633 02:05:07,679 --> 02:05:11,159 you okay councelor Flynn yeah um now 2634 02:05:11,159 --> 02:05:13,400 moving to Christie's presentation thank 2635 02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:16,760 you was really good um very detailed 2636 02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:19,840 very succinct and I do want to say that 2637 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:23,639 um in my mind the decision by astred 2638 02:05:23,639 --> 02:05:27,360 andu or whoever made it to have specific 2639 02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:32,440 advertising for um one of the Bands uh 2640 02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:33,960 we have one of the biggest fundraising 2641 02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:37,639 events coming up Bollywood um 2642 02:05:37,639 --> 02:05:40,159 and one of the biggest changes I've seen 2643 02:05:40,159 --> 02:05:43,040 in our community is our diversification 2644 02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,320 and well that it's not diversification 2645 02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:48,159 wrong word but you know what I mean um 2646 02:05:48,159 --> 02:05:49,840 but just we're a totally different I've 2647 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:51,639 been here for 20 years and we are a to 2648 02:05:51,639 --> 02:05:53,880 totally different community and a lot of 2649 02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:56,000 that is because of Tracy and her team 2650 02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,400 and I'm quite confident based on your 2651 02:05:58,400 --> 02:05:59,880 presentation and what you've done thus 2652 02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:01,840 far that you're going to continue that 2653 02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,960 but I think that was a good decision to 2654 02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:07,040 have that specific piece because our 2655 02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,000 community has changed so much and uh is 2656 02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:14,159 much more diverse so thank you thank you 2657 02:06:14,159 --> 02:06:16,280 councelor 2658 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,480 Flynn I think everyone's had their turn 2659 02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,679 thank you Christie for your report I 2660 02:06:21,679 --> 02:06:23,480 really appreciate it appreciate the time 2661 02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:25,360 you put in and pictures tell all the 2662 02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:34,669 words so thank you Tracy we will see you 2663 02:06:34,679 --> 02:06:37,559 both we can invite councelor ganella 2664 02:06:37,559 --> 02:06:43,549 back in for Council 2665 02:06:43,559 --> 02:06:45,960 statements your worship councelor 2666 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:52,400 ganella has left okay great s like Elvis 2667 02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,559 Council statements counselors does 2668 02:06:54,559 --> 02:06:56,760 anyone have a statement uh councelor 2669 02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:59,119 Wallace Richmond first please go 2670 02:06:59,119 --> 02:07:02,239 ahead thank you uh I just wanted to give 2671 02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:06,199 you a brief update on silga as you know 2672 02:07:06,199 --> 02:07:10,400 uh the resolutions are wrapping up on 2673 02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:13,360 February 15th the community excellence 2674 02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,400 awards have been uh submitted for 2675 02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:19,040 consideration uh there's a very exciting 2676 02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,760 convention uh planned for merit if 2677 02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:23,880 you've not spent a few days there I 2678 02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:27,079 encourage everyone um to go the focus 2679 02:07:27,079 --> 02:07:30,159 will be on economic and uh Community 2680 02:07:30,159 --> 02:07:34,000 Development and we have an amazing um uh 2681 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,159 keynote speaker from the group small 2682 02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:38,119 towns which is Making Waves all over 2683 02:07:38,119 --> 02:07:41,639 North America um we've 2684 02:07:41,639 --> 02:07:45,159 also working through a transition from 2685 02:07:45,159 --> 02:07:47,040 Alison Slater who's been with sua for 2686 02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:50,280 many years to Karen devise and that 2687 02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,760 piece is going very well and and Karen 2688 02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:54,920 is from Salon arm and we're working 2689 02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,559 together regularly um to get all that 2690 02:07:57,559 --> 02:07:59,719 training happening so it's a very 2691 02:07:59,719 --> 02:08:02,400 exciting time for silga on the ubcm 2692 02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:03,760 front the 2693 02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:08,360 executive uh meeting happens um in next 2694 02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:10,760 week in Vancouver I will be attending 2695 02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,719 and I I'm on the seminar me or sorry 2696 02:08:13,719 --> 02:08:16,040 their um economic and Community 2697 02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:18,320 Development Committee as well as the 2698 02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:22,840 convention committee and then an fcm um 2699 02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:25,000 a regional or fcm board meeting is 2700 02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:29,119 happening in dval in March very packed 2701 02:08:29,119 --> 02:08:33,199 agenda um and I'm sure it won't surprise 2702 02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:34,719 you to know that there's been a lot of 2703 02:08:34,719 --> 02:08:37,639 work on the US tariff situation there 2704 02:08:37,639 --> 02:08:39,920 was a big meeting with 2705 02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,840 the government ministers the Prime 2706 02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:46,760 Minister and big city caucus Mayors just 2707 02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,440 last Thursday and they're beginning a 2708 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:51,440 series of Roundtable conversations with 2709 02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:56,000 with all the provincial and um uh 2710 02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:59,840 territorial Association uh caucuses 2711 02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:02,360 that'll be happening uh also at the end 2712 02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:05,280 of next week um and so once budget is 2713 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,239 done I'll I'll continue to focus on on 2714 02:09:08,239 --> 02:09:09,840 that piece and I think it's really 2715 02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:11,360 important for all of us to be at the 2716 02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:13,719 table so if there's any you want me to 2717 02:09:13,719 --> 02:09:15,920 raise on our behalf or on our Region's 2718 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,280 behalf please um you know where to find 2719 02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:21,840 me and I'm very grateful thank you 2720 02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:23,360 thank you councelor Wallace Richmond 2721 02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,679 thank you for the work you do on both 2722 02:09:24,679 --> 02:09:27,199 silga and ubcm looking forward to silga 2723 02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:30,239 in Merit this year um we will go to 2724 02:09:30,239 --> 02:09:32,480 councelor lingren for Council statements 2725 02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:34,520 thanks you worship uh moving from the 2726 02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:37,880 national stage to the local stage uh 2727 02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:39,520 just a little bit of an update from 2728 02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,760 sabnis uh hopefully you've all had a 2729 02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:43,880 chance to look at the model of the new 2730 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:45,760 uh Eric Christmas Memorial boardwalk and 2731 02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,880 birdine platform that's now located in 2732 02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,599 the front lobby of city hall for the 2733 02:09:49,599 --> 02:09:52,159 next week or so um 2734 02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:55,199 designed and built by autof fmid and 2735 02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:58,800 safely encased by Quinton lingren um so 2736 02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,000 take a look and uh hopefully the 2737 02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,480 community we wanted it here uh during 2738 02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:04,960 the week when everybody was coming in to 2739 02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,960 pay their utility bills and hopefully 2740 02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:08,679 there's they have a little few dollars 2741 02:10:08,679 --> 02:10:10,440 left over at the end and the information 2742 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,880 on how to donate to that project is on 2743 02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,719 the cards that are located on the table 2744 02:10:15,719 --> 02:10:18,559 uh the other uh report is from the 2745 02:10:18,559 --> 02:10:20,840 environmental advisory committee uh last 2746 02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:22,840 week we we had a really amazing 2747 02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:26,320 presentation from am and Singh uh from 2748 02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,280 home zero which is a nonprofit 2749 02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:31,440 organization in Veron uh they gave us a 2750 02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:34,360 a really um interesting presentation on 2751 02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:36,199 this broads scope approach that they've 2752 02:10:36,199 --> 02:10:38,000 taken to retrofitting older homes to 2753 02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,800 reduce greenhous gases uh it's making uh 2754 02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:44,719 an impact already it they've only done 2755 02:10:44,719 --> 02:10:46,599 11 homes as part of their pilot project 2756 02:10:46,599 --> 02:10:48,159 in Vernon but it's already making an 2757 02:10:48,159 --> 02:10:50,520 impact on reducing greenhouse gases and 2758 02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:53,440 helping the city Vernon reduce or reach 2759 02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:54,639 their 2760 02:10:54,639 --> 02:10:59,599 um uh Greenhouse reduction targets um 2761 02:10:59,599 --> 02:11:02,000 they're in the middle of expanding to a 2762 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:05,079 100 homes and they will probably be 2763 02:11:05,079 --> 02:11:07,280 submitting a letter to us in the near 2764 02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:10,719 future asking us to um support their um 2765 02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:13,440 application to fcm for uh additional 2766 02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,199 funding for that project and I hope that 2767 02:11:16,199 --> 02:11:18,159 at some point in the future they make a 2768 02:11:18,159 --> 02:11:19,679 request to come and speak to council I 2769 02:11:19,679 --> 02:11:20,920 think that you'll be really impressed 2770 02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:23,280 with the scope of their 2771 02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:25,480 project thank you very much councelor 2772 02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:27,440 lingren and thank you to you and to 2773 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:31,199 Quinton for uh for making that available 2774 02:11:31,199 --> 02:11:34,159 um to us the the new Eric Christmas 2775 02:11:34,159 --> 02:11:35,679 Boardwalk it's 2776 02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:39,239 exciting any other Council 2777 02:11:39,239 --> 02:11:41,599 statements councelor lavry please go 2778 02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:44,520 ahead yes thanks your worship um this is 2779 02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:47,119 sort of uh in previous meetings and 2780 02:11:47,119 --> 02:11:49,960 today as well uh just a reflection it's 2781 02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:51,679 a statement but it's a reflection as 2782 02:11:51,679 --> 02:11:56,000 well um I think more and more Community 2783 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,880 groups uh they're looking to funders 2784 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,559 local governments The Province the feds 2785 02:12:01,559 --> 02:12:04,719 to um help support them in the good work 2786 02:12:04,719 --> 02:12:06,079 they do and I think that's getting 2787 02:12:06,079 --> 02:12:07,880 Tighter and Tighter for them to do it so 2788 02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:09,480 therefore they're reaching out more and 2789 02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,000 more for money and what has become clear 2790 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,480 to me especially at the regional 2791 02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:16,920 district is that higher levels of 2792 02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:20,239 government are now and I think they're 2793 02:12:20,239 --> 02:12:22,679 doing it way too early without enough 2794 02:12:22,679 --> 02:12:27,599 support but are mandating that Community 2795 02:12:27,599 --> 02:12:30,440 organizations have Asset Management 2796 02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:34,040 plans in place now I personally think 2797 02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:35,880 that's a leap too far for a small 2798 02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:39,040 community organization to do that but I 2799 02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:40,679 think that there's a need and I'm just 2800 02:12:40,679 --> 02:12:42,159 going to float this idea out here I 2801 02:12:42,159 --> 02:12:44,400 don't know how to actualize it at all 2802 02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:47,320 but there's a need for us to be figuring 2803 02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:50,400 out a way of how we can partner to 2804 02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:52,599 support community organizations in 2805 02:12:52,599 --> 02:12:55,760 starting that asset management process 2806 02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:59,480 as we are starting to do it as well so 2807 02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:02,159 that you don't build something 20 years 2808 02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:04,119 later it's falling down and then you're 2809 02:13:04,119 --> 02:13:06,280 starting from Ground Zero literally in 2810 02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,760 some cases to actually get it up and get 2811 02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,040 it going and and and recover so I think 2812 02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:13,760 it's uh uh I I'll bring this forward I 2813 02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,199 like maybe uh other counselors we could 2814 02:13:16,199 --> 02:13:18,920 uh work on some ideas on that but I do 2815 02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:21,520 think that and and perhaps there's some 2816 02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:23,520 training out there that I'm not aware of 2817 02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:25,360 but I think it' be advantageous for all 2818 02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:28,960 of us to put our heads together to uh 2819 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:32,480 start some Community 2820 02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:35,719 organization uh process where groups can 2821 02:13:35,719 --> 02:13:37,559 start to get their heads be introduced 2822 02:13:37,559 --> 02:13:38,920 to and get their heads around Asset 2823 02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:40,599 Management thank 2824 02:13:40,599 --> 02:13:43,520 you thank you very much councelor lavy 2825 02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:44,880 are there any other statements from 2826 02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:46,719 counselers 2827 02:13:46,719 --> 02:13:48,840 today thank you thank you for all of 2828 02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:50,559 your work I know that you're all working 2829 02:13:50,559 --> 02:13:52,559 hard on your committees out there and in 2830 02:13:52,559 --> 02:13:55,679 the community okay we will go 2831 02:13:55,679 --> 02:13:58,360 to question and answer 2832 02:13:58,360 --> 02:14:00,360 period is there anyone who has a 2833 02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:02,719 question that they like to ask Council 2834 02:14:02,719 --> 02:14:06,679 either virtually or in person 2835 02:14:06,679 --> 02:14:11,159 here okay seeing none um I'll accept a 2836 02:14:11,159 --> 02:14:14,280 motion to return to in camera councelor 2837 02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,599 lingren counc Canon thank you all those 2838 02:14:17,599 --> 02:14:20,800 in favor