[0:02] this conference will now be recorded
[0:30] good afternoon
[0:32] everyone I'd like to resume the city of
[0:34] Salmon Arm regular council meeting of
[0:37] Monday February the
[0:39] 10th like to begin by acknowledging that
[0:41] we're Gathering here on the traditional
[0:44] territory of the shet MC people with
[0:46] whom we share these lands and where we
[0:49] live and we work
[0:54] together there was a tragedy in our
[0:56] community this weekend
[1:00] a very difficult
[1:03] one a young man walking across a
[1:08] lake fell through the
[1:13] ice the dive team from Vancouver is
[1:17] presently on a recovery Mission out in
[1:19] the
[1:24] lake we are thinking of his
[1:28] family we're thinking of his
[1:31] friends people surrounding
[1:35] him the RCMP the search and
[1:38] rescue fire department
[1:41] personnel that were on hand for this
[1:43] very difficult
[1:46] situation it's unconscionable to
[1:50] me losing a son in that
[1:57] way so we will support in the best way
[2:00] that we
[2:02] can the families that are involved and I
[2:06] know it touches the whole
[2:10] Community special thanks to staff
[2:13] sergeant Simon
[2:15] Scott and his communication with the
[2:18] city with our CAO with our human
[2:21] resources personnel
[2:25] here we'll update you um as we hear
[2:30] here and hopefully um the recovery
[2:34] Mission will be
[2:36] successful and provide the family with
[2:39] just any kind of uh of hope so I'm very
[2:45] sorry to report
[2:53] that we have a an agenda that's uh been
[2:57] presented to us I'll accept accept a
[3:00] motion to adopt that agenda councelor
[3:03] canilla councelor Canon thank you all
[3:06] those in
[3:10] favor passes
[3:13] unanimously counselor's disclosure of
[3:16] interest if you have any disclosure of
[3:18] interest on any of the regular council
[3:21] meeting agenda items please indicate
[3:27] so councelor canala please go ahead
[3:30] item
[3:34] 9.3 item 9.3 thank
[3:37] you in regards to the leas of my
[3:40] employer with the cityne property that
[3:42] we have our offices on Council you put
[3:46] your down of
[3:48] course I'm
[3:50] back uh I'll repeat uh 9.3 Deputy um the
[3:55] deputy corporate officer report
[3:57] regarding the um lease agreement with
[4:01] the the property that my employer is
[4:03] using presently and 14.1 the
[4:06] presentation with which I'm sad to miss
[4:09] the samon arm Arts Center uh and art
[4:12] gallery the my employer the FK music
[4:14] Society works with um this organization
[4:18] uh and partners and sponsors the wow
[4:20] event so I'll be stepping up for that
[4:22] thank you councelor
[4:24] ganella any further disclosures from
[4:28] counselors seeing none we'll go to
[4:30] confirmation of minutes of the regular
[4:32] council meeting of January the 27th I
[4:35] would take virtual mover and seconder if
[4:37] there are there councelor lavry thank
[4:38] you for the move move of that
[4:41] motion councelor Wallace Richman would
[4:43] second any additions to dels to those
[4:48] minutes see none I'll call a question
[4:50] all those in
[4:53] favor any business
[4:56] arising thank you that passes
[4:58] unanimously
[5:00] we have three committee reports again
[5:03] counselors we don't need to move the
[5:04] minutes but I will go through each one
[5:06] of them and give you time if you wish to
[5:09] bring forward any item first 7.1 is the
[5:12] social impact advisory committee meeting
[5:14] minutes of January the 24th for your
[5:22] information second set is the Greenways
[5:25] liaison committee meeting minutes of
[5:27] January the 23rd
[5:31] yes councelor labry as chair of that
[5:33] committee go ahead yeah thanks your
[5:36] worship I just uh I won't get into in
[5:37] detail but there's the a long list of uh
[5:41] spreadsheets and tables of uh work
[5:43] completed in 2024 what's on the 2025
[5:47] project update uh maintenance budget
[5:51] essentially good news all around uh
[5:53] including developments uh moving forward
[5:57] uh legal developments moving forward
[5:59] permitting uh work on with the school
[6:01] district as well so all good there um I
[6:04] just wanted to highlight besides when
[6:07] you look at those spreadsheets and uh
[6:10] followed out it's there's money that's
[6:12] put in by
[6:13] Partners incline stuff that's donated
[6:17] and the total picture is leveraged
[6:20] funding going forward to actually do
[6:22] things um part of that Leverage is in
[6:26] kind funding and I would just like to
[6:28] note that uh in kind work from Brown
[6:32] Johnson uh it's absolutely amazing and
[6:35] helps the city move forward in in their
[6:37] Trails as well as mrdt
[6:41] contributions uh because mrdt recognizes
[6:44] that our trail system or connectivity is
[6:48] uh uh an attraction for tourism as well
[6:50] is a great thing to do so I'll just
[6:52] leave it there um but just to point out
[6:54] that uh um that in kind stuff
[7:00] the contributions are they come from all
[7:03] over the community thank
[7:05] you thank you councelor labry councelor
[7:07] ganella did you wish to speak to those
[7:10] minutes thank you worship um I'd like to
[7:13] speak to the community Heritage
[7:15] committee reports okay let's go to that
[7:17] one that's 7.3 yes please yes thank you
[7:21] um that we're going into the month of
[7:23] February and at the end of the month we
[7:25] have Heritage week and the meeting on
[7:29] the 24th we're hoping to announce the
[7:32] Heritage uh a winners as we do annually
[7:35] during a regular council meeting great
[7:38] thank you look forward to that thank
[7:41] you any other business arising from
[7:44] those
[7:46] minutes okay we'll go to uh item eight
[7:48] the Columbia Sho shop Regional District
[7:50] update councelor Flynn if you have
[7:52] something to share thank you thank you
[7:53] we don't have a written report because
[7:55] the board meeting is next Thursday but I
[7:59] think it's next Thursday but um the
[8:02] budget Committee of the whole meeting
[8:05] was on January 30th that was budget one
[8:08] kind of like what we're doing on
[8:10] Wednesday budget one uh staff based on
[8:14] discussion and direction from uh the
[8:17] directors has taken budget one back and
[8:21] is working on it um I don't know if uh
[8:24] director labry had planned to provide
[8:26] many details um I think it might be
[8:28] better to wait for budget too but due to
[8:31] some of the decisions we've made and
[8:32] have been made uh there will be a
[8:34] decrease in our requisition overall um
[8:37] but the uh biggest area once again is
[8:41] reserves for closures of
[8:46] landfills and it's a significant
[8:49] unfunded
[8:51] liability it's very deep conversation
[8:55] and director lavry and I talked about
[8:57] whether we should invite
[9:00] um Ben Van Nostrand present something to
[9:03] Council on some of the details about
[9:06] what landfill closures means so I will
[9:09] economically and all of those things so
[9:12] there is a solid waste review program
[9:16] review and strategic plan review going
[9:19] on it's almost as detailed if not as
[9:23] detailed as our ocp review um and there
[9:27] is a committee working on that but um
[9:30] I'm just trying to gauge the desire of
[9:34] council to hear about our biggest cost
[9:37] item that we pay for at the csrd and to
[9:40] get information from Mr Vin ostrand or
[9:43] do you trust your two
[9:45] directors I could comment on that uh
[9:48] councelor Flynn I absolutely trust our
[9:51] directors however I would like Mr van
[9:53] nostran to come and talk to
[9:56] us I want to understand why the
[10:00] that replacement budget is so aggressive
[10:03] I mean the jump in this year's csrd
[10:06] requisition on that budget line is
[10:10] enormous and uh I would like to
[10:13] understand it better so if Mr van
[10:16] nostran is able to come and speak to us
[10:18] I think it would be good for all of
[10:19] council to hear it firsthand okay thank
[10:21] you and I'm glad to hear your trust of
[10:23] your two directors or counselors is not
[10:26] predicated on the budget or Solid Waste
[10:30] but um do you think we would want to try
[10:33] to get him here for the planning meeting
[10:35] next
[10:36] Tuesday um I'll leave that between you
[10:38] and the CFO or CEO um for a later
[10:42] discussion okay thank you councelor
[10:46] lavry thanks your worship and thanks to
[10:50] councelor Finn for bringing this up um
[10:52] I'm not sure when is best for uh for Ben
[10:56] to come I think that again the final
[10:58] vote on the budget will not be until
[11:01] March uh the next committee that hold is
[11:03] the end of February so there is a bit of
[11:05] time there just as's a preview and the
[11:08] Regional District board is having this
[11:11] discussion there is no doubt that this
[11:14] is a significantly
[11:17] underfunded
[11:19] um line item based on changing
[11:22] expectations from the province of best
[11:25] practice for closing landfills and we're
[11:28] in this situation
[11:29] because people are including myself of
[11:33] everything we throw
[11:35] away and nobody's paid a lot of
[11:39] attention not to the day-to-day
[11:41] operations but the closure of it so the
[11:44] in the you're right your worship
[11:46] significant increases over the next five
[11:50] years projected
[11:53] out additional increases every year
[11:56] which are not even going to scratch the
[11:58] surface of getting to even a portion of
[12:01] the reserve needed the uh discussion at
[12:04] the regional district table has been uh
[12:07] and there trade-offs no matter what you
[12:09] do if you up the fees for those who are
[12:11] dumping that discourages people to dump
[12:13] illegally so it's a of it's an alive
[12:16] vibrant conversation I think Ben can
[12:18] talk about those options um I think that
[12:21] uh I'd leave it to uh councelor Flynn
[12:25] the vice chair to work that out I don't
[12:27] think we personally I don't think we
[12:29] need it right away um it's going to be
[12:31] part of the
[12:32] requisition um and it it' be I think it'
[12:35] be highly informative for this table to
[12:37] have their their heads around the
[12:39] absolute dilemma of how to even
[12:42] partially fund this reserve for what's
[12:46] anticipated down the line so uh I'd
[12:48] encourage us to do it thank you great
[12:51] thank you councelor labry councelor
[12:52] Flynn one more comment yeah just a quick
[12:54] consensus does do we feel it would be a
[12:57] better thing to do at a planning meeting
[13:00] or a council meeting because that'll
[13:01] help me and I do agree with councelor
[13:03] lavry it's not necessarily as urgent as
[13:05] next Tuesday because the next this
[13:08] budget two for csrd is at the end of
[13:11] February and the approval of the budget
[13:13] is March um so and I do want to thank in
[13:16] advance councelor lingren who's going to
[13:18] attend budget two session because of my
[13:21] absence so thank you um chief
[13:24] administrative officer um that would fit
[13:27] into a planning meeting sometime uh um
[13:29] when councelor Flynn and yourself thinks
[13:31] that it might fit would that be okay to
[13:32] do it that way absolutely your worship
[13:35] thank you very much thank
[13:37] you okay let's move forward then um to
[13:41] staff reports uh 9.1 as the Chief
[13:44] Financial Officer parcel tax roll over
[13:47] roll review panel there is a motion if I
[13:50] can have a mover into second or it's to
[13:51] set a date for that thank you councelor
[13:53] lingren councelor ganella I'll ask our
[13:55] Chief Financial Officer if he wishes to
[13:58] um say more than uh the motion describes
[14:01] there uh Drew your your worship it's
[14:04] just the standard uh personal tax to
[14:07] authenticate the role that happens every
[14:08] year as described in the motion if
[14:11] there's any questions I'm available
[14:12] great thank you councel has any
[14:14] questions around that
[14:18] motion okay I'll call the question all
[14:20] those in favor
[14:30] councelor Wallace Richmond I'm just
[14:32] waiting for your vote there it is thank
[14:33] you that passes unanimously we'll go to
[14:36] 9.2 chief administrative officer ubcm
[14:40] and silga meeting
[14:45] expenses your worship my apologies there
[14:48] is one minor correction for this motion
[14:51] okay um instead of travel to ubcm and
[14:54] silga it is ubcm and
[14:57] fcm yeah thank you
[14:59] um councelor Flynn you're willing to
[15:01] move that motion I am second councelor
[15:04] ganella thank you chief administrative
[15:06] officer speaking to the
[15:08] motion thank you worship um this is
[15:12] intended just to allow staff to make
[15:16] travel Arrangements on behalf of
[15:18] councelor Wallace Richmond and then seek
[15:20] reimbursement from ubcm and fcm there is
[15:24] no cost to the city the city does
[15:27] um up front pay for the room but seeks
[15:31] reimbursement so there is no um no net
[15:34] impact to the city thank you questions
[15:38] or comments from Council councelor Canon
[15:40] thank you just a quick question um
[15:43] looking at this this is for the travel
[15:47] arrangements and is there pdms for that
[15:52] are in here too that are administrated
[15:54] through ubcm and fcm the chief
[15:57] administrative officer
[16:00] my apologies your worship I didn't hear
[16:02] the end of what um councelor Canon said
[16:05] go go ahead councelor Canon if you want
[16:07] to repeat the question does this include
[16:09] uh pums that
[16:13] are that councelor Wallace richm would
[16:15] get through ubcm and
[16:18] fcm chief administrative officer through
[16:21] your worship no this is just for the
[16:24] accommodation piece so just travel and
[16:28] hotels just the hotel okay and then uh
[16:31] the city seeks reimbursement so the
[16:34] executive assistant will book the room
[16:37] and and then we'll put in the um
[16:39] submission for the
[16:41] claim okay can I just I just have one
[16:44] more question yeah go ahead no so I know
[16:47] so this is the travel Arrangement so
[16:49] when councelor Wallace Richmond goes to
[16:53] ubcm and fcm in her positions that she
[16:56] holds does she get per DMs
[17:00] then from the city and only the city or
[17:03] does she get it from those
[17:06] groups I see councelor Wallace Richmond
[17:08] is willing to comment as well so can I
[17:10] go your yeah councelor Wallace Richmond
[17:12] please go ahead uh thank you your
[17:14] worship I appreciate the work the staff
[17:16] does to help me with these bookings
[17:19] often these uh meetings are organized
[17:21] months in
[17:22] advance um and
[17:25] many meetings being organized months in
[17:27] advance means quite a few bookings and
[17:30] um their help is much appreciated the
[17:32] ubcm board pays its
[17:36] own uh per DMS and reimburses any travel
[17:42] the city's role in ubcm is strictly to
[17:44] book the hotel room ahead of time and
[17:46] then seek reimbursement directly from
[17:48] ubcm for fcm there is a small
[17:51] communities travel fund uh my
[17:53] understanding is that fund pays for
[17:55] travel and accommodation for any upcm
[17:59] board meeting uh but not fcm
[18:02] convention um and ubcm doesn't pay for
[18:06] my convention time either so there are
[18:10] uh there's about uh I would say up to
[18:15] five days of per dm with fcm work maybe
[18:19] a few more that are covered by the city
[18:21] my understanding is the small Community
[18:22] Fund may not actually cover that but I'm
[18:26] I'm I'm not aware of the specific detail
[18:29] of the only that I can only use the
[18:31] small communities fund for fcm travel
[18:34] and accommodation for board meetings and
[18:36] nothing
[18:39] else y thank you councelor Canada do you
[18:41] have any any other questions or comments
[18:44] you want to
[18:45] make so I so this motion is for ubcm and
[18:52] fcm not silga and so my understanding is
[18:57] through you your worship to counselor
[18:59] Wallace Richmond you only get you get
[19:01] the pums when you're there through the
[19:04] city of Salmon
[19:05] Arm correct only for let's just let's
[19:09] just go back to the motion so the motion
[19:13] is to have staff manage the
[19:15] accommodation Arrangements in advance
[19:17] for ubcm and fcm that's the motion that
[19:20] we're talking about right now so if
[19:22] there's further questions outside that
[19:24] motion certainly we could handle it but
[19:26] let's handle a motion first so councelor
[19:28] do you have further comments around the
[19:30] motion piece or would or would would
[19:33] that information affect your vote on the
[19:35] motion no it won't I would just reading
[19:37] the background and trying to get my head
[19:39] wrapped around exactly what it all means
[19:42] so I'll ask later your worship okay
[19:46] thank you other speakers to the motion
[19:48] councelor Flynn speaking to the motion I
[19:51] will vote in support it's a zero impact
[19:54] to the community it provides the
[19:57] community with value and I guess we
[19:59] shouldn't say there's no cost because
[20:01] there's the staff time to do it but
[20:03] that's minimal so I will vote in support
[20:05] of the motion and if we discuss the
[20:08] other issue further I will comment on
[20:09] that okay thank you yeah I will allow a
[20:12] discussion after this motion if uh a
[20:14] councelor wishes to bring it up um
[20:17] councelor Ling speaking to the motion
[20:19] yeah is there a cost savings if the city
[20:22] does the booking rather than councelor
[20:23] Wallace Richmond booking her own
[20:25] accommodation chief administrative
[20:27] officer three your worship uh the city
[20:30] doesn't have any preferential rates but
[20:33] it is um an assistance to councelor well
[20:36] searchman due to the fact that it is
[20:39] time consuming to make these
[20:41] arrangements and there's lots of them so
[20:43] we have administrative staff that we can
[20:45] help out with that okay
[20:48] thanks are there any other speakers to
[20:50] the
[20:52] motion seean I'll call a question all
[20:54] those in favor
[20:58] that passes unanimously councelor Canon
[21:01] can I come back to you now if you have
[21:03] further questions around the report if
[21:06] you just press your button and I'll get
[21:07] your mic on for you yeah it was just I
[21:10] was just
[21:11] curious if counselor Wallace Richman
[21:15] gets paid per
[21:20] DMS through
[21:22] fcm or the
[21:24] city and also for ubcm if she gets pums
[21:30] paid through ubcm or the city daily pums
[21:34] and then while we have the typo up there
[21:36] I was curious about silga also if they
[21:39] pay per Dums when she attends in
[21:42] official capacity just curious got you
[21:46] councelor Wallace Richman can I pass the
[21:47] microphone over to you once more yes of
[21:51] course uh thank you important that we
[21:53] understand how this works I receive a
[21:55] prum for every day I'm away uh
[21:59] on behalf of as an elected uh sound
[22:03] armed counselor on behalf of silga ubcm
[22:05] and fcm silga
[22:07] pays uh its per DMS directly to its
[22:11] directors ubcm pays its per DMS directly
[22:15] to its directors and
[22:18] fcm uh fcm does not pay its directors to
[22:24] attend meetings but the province of BC
[22:27] through ubcm has set up a small
[22:29] communities travel fund specifically to
[22:32] allow for small communities to be
[22:34] represented at the fcm board and any
[22:38] expense related to my time there on at a
[22:40] board meeting uh travel accommodation
[22:44] and and per DMS as I understand it is
[22:47] reimbursed to uh the city from the fcm
[22:51] small communities travel fund run
[22:54] through ubcm it's very complicated but
[22:57] it was a wise decision of ubcm to make
[23:00] sure that small communities could also
[23:03] play a role on that uh at that National
[23:05] table and I'm grateful for uh for that
[23:09] fund's existence I do need specific
[23:13] Clarity around whether they
[23:15] reimburse
[23:17] um P DMS uh but because I don't process
[23:23] the uh the reimbursements I I I wouldn't
[23:27] be able to tell you I do charged I do um
[23:30] submit them though counc Canon do you
[23:34] have further query there so you submit
[23:37] your PDM
[23:38] to whichever affiliation you're with so
[23:41] it has zero cost to the city for pdms I
[23:44] didn't realize that I thought maybe the
[23:45] city paid the prum at at most it would
[23:49] be some it would be fcm
[23:52] pums but fcm is only two meetings a year
[23:56] well that's great because it's a good
[23:58] value value having you representing
[24:00] those those boards so awesome thank you
[24:04] thank you for the clarification C Flyn
[24:06] did you want to speak I was just going
[24:07] to clarify ubcm but because I sat on
[24:10] that through being president of silga
[24:12] and all those pdms are paid separately
[24:15] the fcm one is confusing and has been a
[24:17] discussion point at the csrd table um
[24:21] because there's a chance that there
[24:23] might be a pum or two days in a year
[24:27] charged to the csrd when director Martin
[24:31] was on
[24:32] fcm if we have to deal with that I think
[24:35] we should because I fully would support
[24:37] it thank you very much I think it was
[24:39] just a matter of information so
[24:41] appreciate the discussion there we will
[24:43] go to
[24:44] 9.3 um councelor ganel I think you're
[24:48] leaving for that one
[24:55] okay so item
[24:57] 9.3 Deputy corporate officer is going to
[25:00] speak about the lease of 5413 Street
[25:03] Southwest seminar folk music Society
[25:06] there is a motion um I'd like to get on
[25:09] the floor if I could have a move in a
[25:11] second councelor Canon would move and
[25:13] councelor Flynn would second thank you
[25:16] um I'll ask our Deputy um corporate
[25:19] officer to speak to the
[25:21] report thank you your worship the salar
[25:24] folk music Society has been occupying
[25:27] the building at 5413 Street Southwest
[25:30] since
[25:31] 2015 they've been using it as the office
[25:35] for um the folk music Society roots and
[25:39] blues um they've made some significant
[25:41] improvements to the building over the
[25:43] years and they've expressed an interest
[25:44] in continuing to occupy that spot and
[25:48] have requested an additional five-year
[25:50] lease at a nominal
[25:53] rate thank you very much for that and
[25:55] for the report counselors I'll open up
[25:57] to you if you have any questions of Miss
[25:59] Pont or comments she wish to
[26:04] make seeing none I will call a question
[26:06] all those in
[26:11] favor that passes unanimously thank you
[26:15] we can invite councelor ganella back in
[26:30] I bet he thought we were going to be
[26:32] longer than
[26:36] that he was leaving for 20
[26:42] minutes we work fast without you
[26:44] councelor
[26:47] ganella welcome back okay we will go to
[26:51] item 94 director of engineering Public
[26:53] Works climate resilient plan steering
[26:55] committee there is a motion for
[26:57] consideration I could have a mover and a
[26:59] seconder councelor linger would move
[27:01] that counc canel would second thank you
[27:04] I'll ask our director of engineering and
[27:06] Public Works to speak to the part thank
[27:09] you worship so on January 13th of this
[27:11] year Council approved the development of
[27:12] the climate action resiliency plan and
[27:16] in accordance with the RFP the in
[27:18] preparation of the CRP requires the
[27:21] formation of a climate resiliency
[27:22] steering committee to provide local
[27:25] expertise guidance strategic Direction
[27:28] um
[27:29] for the development and support and
[27:30] influence its implementation within the
[27:34] community the attached terms of
[27:35] reference are outline the Mandate scope
[27:38] of the members of this steering
[27:40] committee which staff are is proposing
[27:43] to consist of 22 members formed from a
[27:45] combination of external organizations
[27:48] City committees and citizens at
[27:51] large um Alternatives and implications
[27:54] should Council not choose to form this
[27:57] climate resiliency steering committee
[27:59] staff would will proceed with the
[28:01] development of a working group uh made
[28:03] up of City staff csrd staff and in
[28:06] consultation with First Nation
[28:08] Representatives um the outcomes would
[28:11] then be forwarded to these organizations
[28:13] uh for review and feedback um ultimately
[28:17] Staff feel that this is a uh not the
[28:20] best way to go about it um however that
[28:23] is an option um and communication upon
[28:26] Council approval of formation of this
[28:28] steering committee staff would contact
[28:30] organizations uh proposed in the terms
[28:32] of reference to request participation
[28:35] and in nominating members and staff will
[28:38] also advertise for the recruitment of
[28:39] three um citizens at large um this
[28:43] resulting list uh will be reported back
[28:45] to council for formal review and
[28:48] appointments great thank you very much
[28:51] um the director of engineeri and public
[28:52] works councelors I'll open it up to you
[28:55] to comments or questions councelor
[28:57] lingren
[28:58] thanks your worship um yeah I'm uh um in
[29:04] principle uh in favor of having a
[29:06] steering committee Vernon has had a
[29:09] and uh climate ambassadors since they
[29:12] instituted their plan A couple of years
[29:14] ago and I think that that's helped it be
[29:17] very successful
[29:19] I'm uh curious about the terms of
[29:24] reference um the city doesn't seem to
[29:27] have a seat on the steering committee is
[29:30] that just implied that somebody from the
[29:32] city would chair it or how does that
[29:35] work thank you I I see under the
[29:37] procedures that it says the crpc will be
[29:40] chaired by the consultant um but I pass
[29:43] your question on to the director of
[29:44] engineering and Public Works City it
[29:47] would be chaired by the consultant and
[29:49] there would be City staff attending the
[29:51] meetings um but really we're looking for
[29:53] feedback from this committee and then
[29:55] there's still a a working committee made
[29:57] up of the csrd staff and as well as
[30:01] First Nation so there is a working
[30:02] committee as well good councelor lingam
[30:05] please continue yeah so would the city
[30:07] have a voice but no
[30:08] vote uh if motions were to come forward
[30:11] from this steering committee a director
[30:15] of engineer and Public Works your
[30:17] worship um this this steering committee
[30:19] is is essentially a it's not for
[30:22] creating content is for review and so
[30:24] any comments would go back to the
[30:25] working committee and be reviewed with
[30:27] the cons consultant again and then come
[30:29] forward to council if anything was
[30:31] required okay that makes sense um just
[30:34] one uh typo I think and it's probably a
[30:39] um anyway just an oversight in the terms
[30:42] of reference the Salmon Arm Bay nature
[30:44] enhancement Society we're missing the
[30:47] word enhancement
[30:49] so thank you thank you for that uh
[30:51] councelor lingren counselor lavy please
[30:54] go
[30:56] ahead yeah thanks your thanks the staff
[30:59] uh good good good things happen to those
[31:01] who wait and it's great to see this uh
[31:03] being here in a timely matter I um I
[31:06] would just emphasize the nature of a
[31:08] steering committee I think you worship
[31:10] have already done it we've seen the role
[31:12] of a steering committee and in the ocp
[31:14] process it's uh it it's to ensure that
[31:19] the work that's being done is within the
[31:22] guidelines of uh the input that's there
[31:25] I have one question your worship through
[31:26] you to staff and that's about membership
[31:30] um I don't
[31:32] see and 22 members is a pretty healthy
[31:36] table um I don't
[31:39] see membership from First Nations
[31:42] indigenous
[31:44] community and I know that on the uh
[31:47] active Transportation task force we were
[31:50] 21e worship maybe at a at a at a time um
[31:54] we did send out invitations sometimes
[31:56] not all members could make it but um we
[31:59] did have unless I've missed it but I I
[32:01] don't see it on the list there and I
[32:03] think it's uh I was going to say worth
[32:05] considering but I think it's more than
[32:07] worth considering I think the
[32:08] invitations would need to go
[32:10] out I'll pass that to the director of
[32:12] engineering public works if he has any
[32:15] comments um I appreciate the comments uh
[32:18] in regards to the steering committee um
[32:20] the working group would have uh First
[32:24] Nations representation on that group as
[32:26] well so we are working to try and find
[32:28] out who would be available to attend the
[32:30] working group meetings so but we will
[32:33] consider the steering committee as
[32:35] well thank you councelor lavry just
[32:38] before I go to the next speaker did you
[32:39] have anything else you'd like to share
[32:41] or say yeah um no I I think
[32:45] um thanks for that response
[32:48] I I think it I would suggest it needs to
[32:51] be more than considered I I would to
[32:53] consider I think that the uh I think is
[32:57] important to
[32:58] issue uh a request along the same
[33:03] process that uh is there um and uh to do
[33:07] and and to have done that and then the
[33:10] the determination of participation uh to
[33:12] that invitation is then within uh other
[33:16] communities thank you thank you
[33:19] councelor Flynn please press your button
[33:22] sorry thank you worship um on the last
[33:24] page of the terms of reference it says
[33:27] the C R PSC is unlikely to have any to
[33:30] make any decisions as their main rol is
[33:32] to provide advice and expertise for
[33:34] consideration and improving the content
[33:36] and they'll make its decision making by
[33:39] consensus um where everything has to be
[33:42] unanimously agreed to so I guess my
[33:44] first comment was I can't imagine a 22
[33:47] person
[33:49] committee having to make unanimous
[33:53] consensus
[33:54] decisions um I also can't imagine adding
[33:56] more people to the 22 person committee
[33:59] so I guess I'm not really understanding
[34:01] the difference and they're not making
[34:03] decisions so I'm not really
[34:05] understanding what the role of this
[34:07] group is compared to the working group
[34:09] because I wasn't intimately involved
[34:11] with the ocp process so um I'm concerned
[34:14] about the size of the committee I'm
[34:16] concerned about the comment that it's
[34:18] got to be consensus decision making
[34:20] because that could be or unanimous could
[34:23] be very difficult and might stifle good
[34:26] conversation um
[34:28] but I don't know what decisions they
[34:29] will be making because it says they're
[34:31] not a decision-making group so I've got
[34:34] all kinds of questions if others feel
[34:36] this is the way to go I support it but I
[34:40] haven't had much success with 22 person
[34:42] groups or
[34:43] bigger what I can say to you councelor
[34:46] Flynn is I can only talk about my
[34:48] experience with the steering committee
[34:50] and the official community plan and I
[34:51] think it sort of parallels this and with
[34:54] the same wording the steering committee
[34:55] and our steering committee for the
[34:57] official commune plan I kind of went
[34:58] into it with um I wondered as well
[35:02] because there it's a big committee
[35:03] there's about 20 people on it but what I
[35:05] can say is it worked extremely well um
[35:08] and I anticipate that this will
[35:10] too um and the reason it worked well was
[35:13] because each of the members understood
[35:15] what their role was and their role was
[35:18] not to um bring their bias of content to
[35:21] the official community plan but rather
[35:23] to take in the information which is what
[35:25] this group will do and make sure that
[35:28] the information is reflected um that is
[35:31] being considered by the working
[35:33] committee so it's kind of they take the
[35:36] information they make sure that what's
[35:39] being said is reflected in the in
[35:41] information that goes to the working
[35:42] committee uh we also worked on a
[35:45] consensus basis and consensus and
[35:48] unanimous aren't quite parallel um there
[35:51] was some give and take for sure on the
[35:53] ocp steering committee but because
[35:55] everyone understood what their role was
[35:58] um as as it became apparent if I was the
[36:01] only person out on on thinking that that
[36:04] maybe shouldn't go in there the
[36:06] consensus piece came about and you know
[36:08] people would leave that and so there was
[36:10] some give and take so it work there um I
[36:14] know it's a lot of people on a committee
[36:16] but it's hard to leave any of those
[36:17] groups out so um that will be my comment
[36:21] there okay and then for
[36:24] clarity like the ocp which we play a
[36:28] bigger role as Council I think but
[36:29] nothing this committee doesn't make
[36:32] decisions without it coming back to
[36:33] council so I'll just ask the director of
[36:35] engineering Public Works my understand
[36:37] as the working committee would then
[36:38] bring any any uh recommendations to
[36:41] council you're correct your worship this
[36:44] this is um the information the
[36:46] discussion that comes back from the
[36:47] steering committee would go through the
[36:49] working group uh in consultation with
[36:52] the consultant and then that would come
[36:54] back to council okay thank you
[36:58] councelor lingren um I'm gon to try this
[37:00] button and see if it lights up your it
[37:02] did okay oh it sorry press it again
[37:06] councelor
[37:09] lingren all right please go ahead thanks
[37:13] um just a comment about the uh three
[37:16] citizens at large it says that includes
[37:18] one youth representative and one senior
[37:21] representative and I would like to make
[37:24] a motion to change that and then I'll
[37:26] speak to that and my motion would be
[37:28] that one includes a youth under 18 and
[37:32] one person is under the age of
[37:37] 30 okay sorry I just want to understand
[37:39] your um
[37:42] your Amendment again I would like to
[37:46] remove the piece that says that includes
[37:48] one youth representative and one senior
[37:50] representative and replace it with one
[37:53] youth under 18 and one youth or one uh I
[37:58] don't know what we call them young adult
[37:59] under the age of 30 okay understand is
[38:02] there a seconder to that
[38:06] Amendment um if you want more
[38:08] information you can second
[38:12] it thank you seconded by councelor
[38:14] ganella please speak to your Amendment
[38:17] councelor lingren trying to follow the
[38:19] process here um so it's my experience
[38:22] from uh chairing and participating in
[38:25] many of the Committees that the city is
[38:26] involved in the nonprofits and
[38:29] organizations around town that many many
[38:31] of the people that have the time and
[38:32] money and uh free time to uh participate
[38:36] in these are well over the age of 60 and
[38:39] it would be my assumption that we are
[38:42] not going to have any problem getting
[38:43] representation from senior citizens or
[38:46] people over the age of 60 and I hesitate
[38:48] to use senior citizens because that
[38:49] includes me uh in that group um my
[38:53] concern is that it's more difficult to
[38:56] get representation from uh high school
[38:58] students and people in their 20s and I
[39:02] think that they have a very valuable
[39:04] perspective that may not be represented
[39:07] by any of these other groups in town and
[39:10] I think it's really important that we
[39:12] include their
[39:14] voice thank you um further speakers to
[39:17] the
[39:18] amendment councelor ganella then
[39:20] councelor Wallis
[39:22] Richmond uh thank you for the um the
[39:24] opportunity to speak on the amendment I
[39:26] just want to have a question to
[39:28] regarding the motion are we now leaving
[39:31] out and one senior representative is
[39:33] that's the intention yes the in Brackets
[39:36] piece would be left out and instead it
[39:38] would say that includes one under 18
[39:40] person and one under 30 person I I sort
[39:44] of in a way I have to uh reject that in
[39:48] my own opinion is for the fact of a bit
[39:50] of aism on that but I do I what I did
[39:53] support was one under 18 specifying then
[39:55] one under 30 I can totally live with but
[39:58] in the sense of just showing a sense of
[40:00] inclusion I have a problem with us
[40:02] suddenly saying you removing that part
[40:04] of the part that's a senior although we
[40:06] do have a high frequency of involvement
[40:09] I just think just as an optical I would
[40:11] I have a problem with that thank you
[40:13] councelor ganella um okay so councelor w
[40:16] Richman you're not speaking on the
[40:18] amendment councelor Flyn did you want to
[40:19] speak on the amendment yeah okay please
[40:21] go ahead I will not support the
[40:23] amendment because I feel we are pigeon H
[40:26] holding and assuming and I randomly
[40:29] picking 30 why wouldn't it be under 40
[40:31] because honestly the 30 to 40 age band
[40:34] probably has similar thoughts so I feel
[40:38] we should stay away from mentioning any
[40:41] age except I agree a student of some age
[40:44] is okay but if they're a 22y old
[40:47] University student that should be fine
[40:49] in my mind so I'm not going to support
[40:51] the the amendment I feel it's too
[40:55] specific um
[40:58] and I don't think it needs to include
[40:59] one senior either because a good chunk
[41:02] of those people councelor lingren is
[41:04] right about a good chunk of those
[41:05] Representatives may be somewhat similar
[41:08] to me with gray hair and some experience
[41:10] so I'm fine with the way the terms of
[41:12] reference are as they said thank you
[41:14] councelor Flynn any other speakers to
[41:16] the amendment councelor lingren I'll let
[41:18] you close unless someone else wants to
[41:20] speak to it councelor lingren go ahead
[41:21] oh oh you pressed twice press again I
[41:24] messed
[41:26] up okay
[41:27] don't touch those buttons councelor
[41:30] lingren please go ahead um so I would
[41:33] based on the feedback I would be willing
[41:34] to change my Amendment so that it just
[41:36] reads one student representative and
[41:40] remove the senior representative okay
[41:42] we're going to vote on this amendment
[41:43] and then if you want to make a different
[41:44] amendment that will be
[41:46] fine do you wish to speak to the
[41:48] Amendments on the floor right now I just
[41:52] did well sort of okay uh any other
[41:55] speakers to the amendment that is on the
[41:57] floor
[42:00] presently okay hearing none I will call
[42:02] the question on the amendment that's on
[42:04] the floor presently all those in
[42:08] favor any
[42:10] opposed okay that Amendment does not
[42:12] pass with councelor lingren in favor the
[42:15] rest opposed are there any further
[42:18] discussions councelor lingren please go
[42:20] ahead I'd like to make another attempt
[42:23] at an amendment to remove the section
[42:26] that says that includes one youth
[42:28] representative and one senior
[42:29] representative and replace it with
[42:32] one do we want student or youth under 25
[42:35] or one student I
[42:37] think okay one student under 25 is that
[42:41] what you'd like it to
[42:42] say sure we'll try that and see what
[42:44] happens is there a seconder to that
[42:46] Amendment councelor Flynn will second
[42:48] the amendment councelor lingren speaking
[42:50] to the amendment yeah I I think that
[42:53] we're going to have a a um adequate or
[42:58] generous a generous uh smattering of
[43:00] senior representation and I don't think
[43:02] that we want to limit the citizens at
[43:05] large to fill that role and so if we
[43:08] include one youth uh specifically that
[43:11] would be an a good perspective to bring
[43:13] in and it's one that we often Overlook
[43:16] and I think on climate change they have
[43:17] a very unique perspective and uh we need
[43:20] to be able to hear their
[43:21] voice okay presently it says that
[43:24] includes one youth representative and
[43:25] one senior representative and your
[43:27] replacing that with one student under 25
[43:30] so my understanding of the amendment
[43:31] councelor Flynn thank you worship I
[43:33] seconded this amendment even though it
[43:36] does say an age but it does say a
[43:37] student and honestly if we only had one
[43:40] student it was 26 that applied I'm
[43:41] pretty sure we would be able to deal
[43:43] with it so I do think a student whether
[43:46] it's high school or early University
[43:49] would provide a perspective that is
[43:52] needed so I can support this thank you
[43:54] councelor Flynn further speakers to the
[43:57] amendment um councelor Wallace Richmond
[44:00] did you want to speak to the amendment
[44:03] yes this one please um I'm I'm sorry uh
[44:07] we're gonna have to vote against this um
[44:10] part of the role of the citizen as large
[44:12] is is people might see themselves um as
[44:16] not being involved in any particular
[44:18] type of
[44:19] organization um with a role to play um
[44:23] in this particular steering committee so
[44:26] I I I don't want to keep it too
[44:28] prescriptive I
[44:30] think we we would like to have a a young
[44:34] person on the committee and we would
[44:36] like to have um a senior on the
[44:39] committee so we might give someone an
[44:41] opportunity who hadn't otherwise uh
[44:44] thought about it to who might have um
[44:47] important concerns about climate change
[44:50] to be able to have a role remember
[44:52] everyone on this committee is playing an
[44:54] advisory role um and represent their
[44:57] group it doesn't matter what age they
[44:59] are or how long they've been doing it um
[45:02] and I think there are plenty of people
[45:05] in the community young and old who would
[45:08] uh be excellent uh representatives and I
[45:11] think we at the very least need to um go
[45:14] out and and and make that known and seek
[45:17] them out and see who who decides to uh
[45:20] put their name forward it at that point
[45:22] I'd be in a better position to decide
[45:23] thank you thank you councelor Wallace
[45:26] Richmond councelor lingren thanks if I
[45:29] may I just want to respond to that um so
[45:32] what I heard there is that we should be
[45:34] less prescriptive which is what I'm
[45:36] aiming for here we would still have
[45:38] three citizens at large two of them
[45:40] would be open to whoever would like to
[45:43] apply uh including seniors including
[45:46] people in their Middle Ages uh male
[45:48] female Multicultural backgrounds
[45:51] whatever it takes and I think that's the
[45:53] goal here is to be less prescriptive
[45:55] about who sits in these seats
[45:57] and opening it up to uh uh a
[46:02] no no guard rails uh one senior is quite
[46:06] prescriptive actually and may limit a
[46:09] 55-year-old from applying who comes with
[46:12] a very interesting perspective or
[46:14] background so I think that it's really
[46:17] important that we take out the senior
[46:18] prescription and leave it open to
[46:21] whoever is
[46:23] interested thank you councelor lingren
[46:25] any other comments on the amend
[46:28] Amendment could I just clarify with the
[46:30] director of engineer and Public Works
[46:32] the three citizens at large when people
[46:35] apply for those positions will those
[46:39] Position will those names come forward
[46:40] to council and Council will select the
[46:43] three that's my understanding yes okay
[46:46] thank you all right any other speakers
[46:48] to the
[46:51] amendment I'll call a question on the
[46:53] amendment all those in favor
[47:00] opposed councelor ganela sir I missed
[47:03] your vote I was for
[47:06] okay uh the amendment does not passed
[47:09] councelor lavry councelor WS Richmond
[47:10] councelor Canada myself
[47:13] opposed is there any other discussion
[47:15] around the
[47:19] motion seean call a question on the main
[47:21] motion as stands all those in favor
[47:27] any
[47:28] opposed that passes unanimously thank
[47:31] you very much thank you to the director
[47:33] of engineering Public Works putting that
[47:35] together for us okay we'll go to item 10
[47:39] introduction of
[47:41] bylaws 10.1 is zoning mment bylaw number
[47:45] 4691 Pacific address 680 10th Street
[47:48] Southwest the owner is G&G Walters the
[47:51] agent is G Gary Arsenal um there's a
[47:55] motion if someone would like to move it
[47:58] to get it on the
[47:59] floor councelor ganella would move
[48:02] it seconded by councelor lavry thank you
[48:06] I'll ask
[48:08] uh hello Miss Pont nice to see you
[48:11] you're gonna speak to this
[48:13] report yes thank you your worship uh the
[48:16] subject property is located at 680 10th
[48:19] Street Southwest south of the Trans
[48:21] Canada Highway and East of 10th Street
[48:23] Southwest and Picadilly Mall the subject
[48:26] property is designated high density
[48:28] residential in the city's official
[48:29] community plan and zoned r10 residential
[48:33] in the zoning bylaw The Proposal is to
[48:35] rezone the parcel from the r10
[48:37] residential Zone to the R5 high density
[48:40] residential Zone this is to allow for
[48:42] construction of a multif family
[48:44] residential development the subject
[48:46] property is located in an appropriate
[48:48] location for high density housing forms
[48:51] as it has good access to Transportation
[48:52] routes recreation parks commercial use
[48:56] use es a library and a post office once
[48:59] Consolidated with the property located
[49:01] at 710 10th Street Southwest the subject
[49:04] property would meet the requirements of
[49:06] the R5 Zone with respect to minimum
[49:08] parcel width and parcel area future
[49:12] development would require a residential
[49:14] development permit at which time site
[49:16] access building massing form and
[49:19] character and Landscaping will be
[49:21] reviewed given that the proposed
[49:23] resoning is consistent with the ocp
[49:25] staff are supportive of the res Zone
[49:27] subject to the conditions of LW
[49:30] consolidation and Ministry of
[49:31] Transportation and Transit approval
[49:34] staff are available should Council have
[49:36] any questions thank you great thank you
[49:38] very much for your summary of your
[49:40] report I'll open it up to counselors for
[49:42] any questions you might have of Miss
[49:44] Pont or if you want to make a
[49:51] comment I see no speakers I'll give you
[49:54] another little minute if you want to
[49:55] think about it
[49:58] okay I see no speakers so I will call a
[50:00] question all those in
[50:04] favor that passes unanimously thank you
[50:06] very much we will go to item 102 which
[50:10] is zoning Amendment bylaw
[50:12] 4689 Civic address is 560 580 610 shop
[50:16] Street
[50:17] Southeast um limited company and the uh
[50:21] uh agent is also the owner there is a
[50:24] proposed motion um to read this first
[50:26] second and third time um if I could have
[50:29] a mover and a seconder councelor Canon
[50:31] would move councelor lry would second uh
[50:34] counc lavry yes with second thank you
[50:37] very much um oh hello Miss Jeffrey
[50:41] welcome you're going to speak to this
[50:43] report yes thank you your worship the
[50:46] subject properties are 560 580 and 610
[50:50] shwap Street Southeast there is
[50:52] currently one single family dwelling on
[50:55] 560 Street and the other two are vacant
[50:59] the properties are designated in the
[51:01] official community plan as high density
[51:03] residential and are zoned
[51:07] r10 the purpose of the zoning Amendment
[51:10] application is to rezone the subject
[51:12] Parcels from r10 to R5 high density
[51:15] residential in order to permit a future
[51:18] multif family residential
[51:20] development staff are supportive of the
[51:22] rezoning should the following conditions
[51:24] be met consolidating of the subject
[51:27] properties uh conduct a traffic impact
[51:31] assessment and Ministry of
[51:33] Transportation
[51:35] approval um could you go to appendix
[51:38] nine
[51:40] please once Consolidated the subject
[51:43] property would satisfy the minimum lot
[51:45] area requirement of R5 Zone staff want
[51:49] to correct information given to the
[51:51] development given at development and
[51:54] planning meeting December 16th 2024 the
[51:58] maximum allowable units permitted with
[52:01] density bonuses would be 46
[52:03] units 36 without
[52:06] bonuses since the proposed resoning
[52:09] aligns with the ocp staff are supportive
[52:12] of the
[52:13] application thank you very much thank
[52:15] you for your summary of your report and
[52:16] for noting that correction counselors
[52:19] I'll open it up to you and know we
[52:20] talked about it at planning but
[52:21] certainly there's opportunity to ask
[52:23] questions or comment here
[52:27] councelor Flynn thank you worship and I
[52:29] support this motion and we'll vote in
[52:31] favor
[52:33] um it's designated RI or uh high density
[52:39] in this area in the ocp and that's
[52:42] because it's close to downtown and we
[52:44] expect people will drive less and things
[52:46] like that the last one which was right
[52:49] near a mall did not have a requirement
[52:51] for traffic impact study and this has
[52:54] many multi
[52:56] um unit developments around it I'm
[52:59] trying to understand does that traffic
[53:02] impact study help us figure out what
[53:06] improvements we need um and why would
[53:09] this one have a traffic impact study
[53:11] when increased traffic is probably
[53:13] similar to the other one thank you for
[53:16] your question I'm director of
[53:17] engineering of Public Works yes your
[53:20] worship so shwap and and fifth is the
[53:22] intersection Fifth Avenue uh has
[53:26] basically been identified as
[53:28] a a weak intersection to say the least
[53:31] and so the the traffic impact study
[53:33] would allow us to determine what impact
[53:36] this development would have on that
[53:37] particular intersection and if they
[53:38] would be required for any improvements
[53:40] and that would be at their
[53:42] cost okay so approximately how much does
[53:45] a traffic impact study cost director of
[53:48] engineering Public Works it it depends
[53:51] on who they get for a consultant I mean
[53:53] I I don't have the pricing I mean it
[53:55] could be 5,00 it could be 10,000 it
[53:57] could be more depending on how in depth
[53:59] they have to go but this is a fairly
[54:00] simple uh impact study okay thank you
[54:04] thank you councelor Flynn councelor
[54:07] labry uh yeah thanks you worship I fully
[54:10] support this we've had discussion out of
[54:12] planning and uh uh this makes uh
[54:15] imminent sense I also want to reiterate
[54:18] how helpful staff uh including the Zone
[54:22] comparison charts are not only for us
[54:25] but I know when people ask me questions
[54:26] about an application and I can refer
[54:29] them to that comparison chart it uh
[54:32] really crystallizes the conversation so
[54:34] I know staff is doing it they're doing
[54:36] it regularly and kudos to them for doing
[54:38] it thank you thank you councelor lavry
[54:41] councelor lingren thanks your worship I
[54:44] just wondered I know the concept designs
[54:46] are rarely exactly what's going to be
[54:48] built but I'm just curious uh if we know
[54:50] anything about what the parking
[54:52] arrangements are going to be for 46 cars
[54:54] on that site
[54:56] thank you councelor lingren you probably
[54:57] know I'm going to remind uh Council this
[54:59] is a resoning application but I will ask
[55:02] Miss Jeffrey if she can comment on on
[55:05] the parking piece thank you your worship
[55:08] um no we do not have um a crystal idea
[55:11] of what the parking is going to look
[55:14] like okay thanks thank you any other
[55:18] comments or questions from
[55:21] Council seeing none I'll call the
[55:24] question first three readings of the
[55:25] rezoning all those in
[55:30] favor that passes unanimously thank you
[55:33] very much Miss Jeffrey for your report
[55:36] we will move to 10.3 which is
[55:38] subdivision and development services
[55:39] Amendment bylaw
[55:42] 4698 um there is a proposed motion if
[55:45] there's a virtual movers and seconders I
[55:47] would accept that moved by councelor
[55:50] Wallis Richmond seconded by councelor
[55:51] lavry thank you councilors um I'll go to
[55:55] the
[55:57] is it Miss smurl or is it director of
[55:58] engineering and Public Works speak into
[56:00] this
[56:01] one director of engineering and public
[56:06] works thank you worship so the
[56:09] subdivision development services bylaw
[56:11] was adopted by Council on June 26 of 23
[56:14] the Vio requires um and regulates the
[56:17] provisions of works and services in
[56:20] respect to the subdivision and
[56:21] development of the land within the city
[56:23] development means the alternative of
[56:25] land
[56:26] by the construction insulation extension
[56:29] and alternative of any building and or
[56:32] structure that requires a building
[56:34] permit the city is required to obtain a
[56:36] building permit for works that fall
[56:38] under the BC building code and therefore
[56:40] the city requires complete the works and
[56:42] services triggered by the subdivision
[56:45] development services bylaw the city
[56:47] prioritizes and completes the upgrades
[56:50] uh to works and services within the city
[56:52] right away on a priority basis to best
[56:54] meet the needs of the community staff
[56:56] believe it is not in the best interest
[56:58] of the taxpayer for the city to complete
[57:01] Frontage upgrades outside the priorities
[57:03] established for the community due to the
[57:05] application of a building permit for
[57:08] institutional
[57:09] infrastructure um staff are requesting
[57:11] the amendment to the subdivision
[57:12] development services bylaw to exempt
[57:15] City properties from the requirements of
[57:17] the subdivision development services
[57:19] bylaw this will per permit Capital work
[57:22] projects to be completed as planned
[57:24] without being forced to under take
[57:26] Frontage upgrades and works that could
[57:29] significantly impact the
[57:31] budgets thank you very much councilors
[57:34] councelor Flynn thank you worship and uh
[57:37] when I read this I found it very
[57:39] interesting and maybe a little bit
[57:41] confusing for me but maybe I can use a
[57:43] specific example and that will help me
[57:46] understand um the new residents at the
[57:51] college created offsite for the college
[57:56] and then we chose to do some
[57:59] offsites and the improvements are
[58:02] amazing and significant and probably
[58:04] were somewhere in our
[58:06] priority is
[58:08] it that we just want the flexibility to
[58:12] decide not to necessarily do those
[58:14] improvements if they're not in a plan
[58:16] already or decide if we want to advance
[58:19] them is that kind of what you're trying
[58:20] to do just give staff some flexibility
[58:23] director of engineering and Public Works
[58:26] yes your worship that's correct um to
[58:28] give another example the the water
[58:30] treatment plant zone 2 Pump Station uh
[58:33] the Water Treatment Plant is a huge
[58:35] Frontage yeah and that project is
[58:37] already you know worth 4 point some
[58:39] million dollars to add the frontage
[58:42] improvements which are in okay shape
[58:45] right now but really need to be planned
[58:46] as a separate project so it gives us
[58:48] some flexibility so I guess it's just a
[58:50] perfect example of some of the times
[58:53] that staff's hands are tied by by loss
[58:56] or by our rules and you're just trying
[58:59] to get a little more flexibility in this
[59:01] rule to actually do the work when it
[59:04] should happen in our overall
[59:06] planning director of engineering and
[59:08] public works that's absolutely correct
[59:10] your worship um we do have a a very
[59:14] extensive Capital Works plan and a lot
[59:17] of times the frontage improvements are
[59:19] planned in in association with other
[59:21] projects and so that's what we'd like to
[59:23] uh to be able to do with this okay well
[59:26] I would personally be very silly to not
[59:28] support staff in this request thank you
[59:31] councelor Flynn councelor
[59:34] lavry uh yeah thanks you worship uh
[59:36] through you to staff so I I get the
[59:39] intent of this and I support it for the
[59:41] most part but I I'm looking for some
[59:44] concrete examples here um in the last
[59:46] two or three years we've probably made
[59:48] strides when there's been some City
[59:51] infrastructure that
[59:54] uh and it may not require building pered
[59:57] I could be corrected on that but some
[59:59] City infrastructure that's added to and
[1:00:02] that we've managed to find ways to put
[1:00:04] an active Transportation or other uh key
[1:00:08] con I'm thinking connectivity
[1:00:10] infrastructure here so how would this
[1:00:16] request factor into some infrastructure
[1:00:20] where there might be
[1:00:21] connectivity uh
[1:00:23] enhancements but essentially
[1:00:26] that not coming in front of council to
[1:00:29] discuss director of engineering Public
[1:00:31] Works your worship I guess I that goes
[1:00:35] with the the
[1:00:36] planning exercises that we go through if
[1:00:39] if and typically this is a building
[1:00:41] permit uh so another example would be
[1:00:44] the um the Fifth Avenue booster or sorry
[1:00:47] the fifth zone five booster station
[1:00:50] along tenth and so that would have been
[1:00:53] a very small Frontage to put in a
[1:00:56] multi-use path a very challenging one um
[1:00:59] so that was also deferred um it doesn't
[1:01:03] mean that it's off the list if we have a
[1:01:05] case where we have a building permit um
[1:01:08] that we could do the works in
[1:01:10] conjunction with an additional Act of
[1:01:11] Transportation Capital project that we
[1:01:13] would we would do that um but really in
[1:01:17] answer to councilor lab's question we
[1:01:20] are looking for the flexibility to defer
[1:01:23] Frontage improvements if we feel that we
[1:01:25] we just either cannot afford them or
[1:01:27] they haven't been um or they're on for a
[1:01:30] different time in the in the plan to be
[1:01:33] constructed councilor
[1:01:35] lry um so these are more comments and
[1:01:38] questions then so I I get the
[1:01:41] intent um and I trust staff to bring
[1:01:44] things forward but I I'm not sure if I
[1:01:47] can support this at this stage unless
[1:01:50] there is some
[1:01:51] language
[1:01:53] about a
[1:01:57] reference to
[1:01:59] council like not an automatic exemption
[1:02:02] but some language about a reference to
[1:02:03] council prior to exemption um I think
[1:02:07] Council needs some control over that and
[1:02:09] I I I don't have the word smithing in
[1:02:11] front of me here to do that so I'm going
[1:02:13] to think about this more a little bit
[1:02:14] you worship if there's any time um but
[1:02:17] if I'm going to oppose it if there's no
[1:02:19] uh and I I rep I understand the
[1:02:22] alternative implications as uh noted in
[1:02:25] the staff report
[1:02:27] but I kind of want this to remain a
[1:02:31] council decision thank you thank you
[1:02:34] councelor labry councelor lingren thanks
[1:02:36] your worship um I have similar thoughts
[1:02:38] I'm just I think curious what would be
[1:02:41] the advantage to this over just coming
[1:02:43] to council for a
[1:02:46] variance director of engineering of
[1:02:48] Public Works your worship I guess it's
[1:02:51] it's about time it's really about time
[1:02:54] and if there was a requirement to do do
[1:02:56] those works if Council defeated it then
[1:02:58] Council would have to put money in the
[1:02:59] budget to do those works and if they
[1:03:01] weren't necessarily budgeted with the
[1:03:03] building permit then it would come from
[1:03:05] somewhere from reserves or gener Revenue
[1:03:08] to to fund that
[1:03:10] project yeah I think go ahead I think
[1:03:13] for me I would rather see the city
[1:03:15] budgeting for those things and coming
[1:03:17] for a variance and we come out ahead in
[1:03:19] the the grand scheme of things there's
[1:03:22] more money than budgeted than we're
[1:03:24] actually going to spend
[1:03:26] um and I I think it's important that uh
[1:03:30] regardless of how good staff is at doing
[1:03:33] this that Council has uh some influence
[1:03:37] because they're here at the table
[1:03:39] representing the views of the people
[1:03:41] that elected us and so I think it's
[1:03:43] important that those views are heard on
[1:03:46] these kinds of issues um I understand
[1:03:50] the issue around timing it can cause
[1:03:54] delays to have to come to Council and
[1:03:56] ask for a variance however I think that
[1:04:02] a lot of the projects that we
[1:04:04] approve
[1:04:06] um they're approved well in advance of
[1:04:10] when the project actually gets started
[1:04:12] and so I'm not sure that that
[1:04:15] is um kind of the deciding factor for me
[1:04:19] so I think I I think I stand opposed at
[1:04:22] this time thank you councelor lingren
[1:04:24] we'll go to councelor Wallace Richman
[1:04:26] next uh your worship thank you uh I'm
[1:04:29] I'm warmed to this idea I I think uh as
[1:04:33] a as a council as staff as a community
[1:04:37] we have some very ambitious plans in
[1:04:39] place Asset Management plans uh
[1:04:43] strategic priority plans ocp plans um
[1:04:48] this is a a the building permit piece is
[1:04:52] is an additional part and I don't
[1:04:56] I think there's an expectation that um
[1:05:00] we've made commitments to get things
[1:05:02] done we've got budgets in place and when
[1:05:04] delays like this happen uh and there's a
[1:05:08] way to avoid them I actually think we
[1:05:11] should we should try it this way and see
[1:05:13] how it works there nothing to be said
[1:05:15] that in a year from now we put the
[1:05:17] breakes on because things didn't get
[1:05:19] done the way they should have got done
[1:05:21] or we missed an opportunity to do
[1:05:23] something we we thought we would but we
[1:05:25] o have to give staff the tools to move
[1:05:28] ahead on on some of the very ambitious
[1:05:31] um uh to-do lists we've given them so
[1:05:34] I'm going to vote in favor and I would
[1:05:37] encourage uh Council to give this um
[1:05:40] take this approach uh to see because we
[1:05:42] all know we've seen delays in projects
[1:05:45] the community really wanted whether we
[1:05:47] had to do the upgrade say for example
[1:05:49] Highway improvements and the West Den
[1:05:51] that sort of thing um and if this is a
[1:05:55] if that was a barrier and this can speed
[1:05:57] things up let's try it and see what
[1:06:00] happens thank you councelor Wallace
[1:06:02] Richmond councelor Canon thank you
[1:06:04] worship I too um support uh this change
[1:06:09] to our bylaw I think the example uh that
[1:06:13] director of engineering gave about the
[1:06:16] pump station and the
[1:06:18] frontage I think I think really what it
[1:06:21] boils down to is that we get our ourself
[1:06:24] caught up in our a bit of bureaucracy
[1:06:27] with projects and moving them forward
[1:06:29] and I think this gives the ability to
[1:06:32] not have our city staff come to us with
[1:06:36] the
[1:06:37] variance instead they can go ahead and
[1:06:41] get the jobs done that we have already
[1:06:44] budgeted in our budget process so we
[1:06:47] know those jobs are getting done and if
[1:06:51] you know there really is a need for that
[1:06:54] Frontage work or whatever to be done I'm
[1:06:57] sure that our staff will recognize that
[1:06:59] and bring that to the table when we do
[1:07:01] our budget process so I'm in favor of
[1:07:04] this thank you councelor Canon councelor
[1:07:07] Flynn yeah I will reiterate my support
[1:07:10] um when we talk about our decision-
[1:07:13] making at this table the budget every
[1:07:15] year includes the capital Works projects
[1:07:18] this motion is saying that if staff
[1:07:20] feels upgrades are needed that will
[1:07:23] probably be part of the budget of that
[1:07:26] project and to me I think we look
[1:07:30] extremely we get looked at extremely
[1:07:33] interestingly by our taxpayers if we're
[1:07:35] having to apply to ourselves for a
[1:07:37] variance um I trust staff to know what
[1:07:41] our priorties are we are part of that
[1:07:42] prioritization of works and to take one
[1:07:47] piece of bureaucracy out I think most
[1:07:49] people would be in favor of that so I
[1:07:51] will vote and support thank you
[1:07:53] councelor Flynn councelor ganella thank
[1:07:55] your warship and through you to possibly
[1:07:58] the um COA the the question I have about
[1:08:02] this because I'm I'm listening to that
[1:08:03] the counselors and I'm on the offence of
[1:08:05] uh uh supporting this but I also
[1:08:09] understand where counselor lavy
[1:08:11] and council lingren is coming from for
[1:08:14] in a sense
[1:08:15] of there's it feels like there's no
[1:08:17] breaks on it and which I'm saying
[1:08:19] anyone's going to do anything um outside
[1:08:21] of the being professional of course um
[1:08:23] is there a way that we can make this
[1:08:25] this we make a motion a friendly Mo
[1:08:28] amendment to give this a a certain time
[1:08:31] as treat it as a pilot project and or a
[1:08:34] pilot you know period where we can say
[1:08:36] does this work and we can just look at
[1:08:39] it not saying so we can have what we
[1:08:40] need want to have approved today but
[1:08:42] also have put a timer on it so you're
[1:08:45] thinking like a a review of some kind
[1:08:48] one year and just see if this is this is
[1:08:50] working as expected I'll pass your
[1:08:52] question on to the chief administrative
[1:08:54] officer
[1:08:56] through your worship yes you can set a
[1:08:58] time limit on it and we can write that
[1:09:01] into the bylaw it would require a bylaw
[1:09:03] Amendment however so we we can do that
[1:09:07] did you wish to make an amendment uh
[1:09:08] councelor ganella I would like to make
[1:09:10] that Amendment thank you okay and um
[1:09:13] what kind of timeline are you thinking
[1:09:14] of for the
[1:09:16] review 12 months okay so that your
[1:09:19] Amendment would be the bylaw entitled
[1:09:22] city of seminar subdivision development
[1:09:23] services Amendment bylaw um be read a
[1:09:25] first second and third time um and
[1:09:28] should the bylaw pass uh be reviewed by
[1:09:31] Council in 12 months exactly what I
[1:09:34] would have said thank you is there a
[1:09:35] seconder to that
[1:09:42] amendment seconded by councelor Wallace
[1:09:44] Richmond I think that's second yes
[1:09:46] councelor ganal do you wish to speak to
[1:09:48] your Amendment yeah yes I um thank you
[1:09:50] for um having the opportunity to speak
[1:09:53] again on this uh again I I feel like
[1:09:55] this is is giving us um supporting staff
[1:09:58] in the direction they would like to go
[1:09:59] but also giving Council an opportunity
[1:10:02] to review this um in a timely manner uh
[1:10:05] I don't think it's too short 12 months
[1:10:06] gives us some time to have a reflection
[1:10:09] and think this if this is the right way
[1:10:10] we want to approach from here on out
[1:10:13] thank you thank you councelor ganal
[1:10:14] councelor lingren did you wish to speak
[1:10:16] to the amendment councelor Flynn did you
[1:10:18] speak to the amendment councelor Canon
[1:10:20] did you wish to speak to the amendment
[1:10:22] okay so councelor lingren I'm just going
[1:10:23] to skip over you and then I'll come back
[1:10:26] if you press your button councelor Flynn
[1:10:28] please go ahead thank you worship and I
[1:10:30] understand the intent of the amendment
[1:10:31] but I will vote against first of all we
[1:10:33] are in these seats for almost another
[1:10:36] two
[1:10:37] years I don't understand why we can't
[1:10:40] give at least two years so I don't like
[1:10:42] the one year and I also um don't think
[1:10:46] there'll be that many projects that this
[1:10:48] will apply to in that year so I am
[1:10:51] against the amendment and again fully
[1:10:53] supported the motion thank thank you
[1:10:55] councelor Flynn councelor Canon to the
[1:10:57] amendment thank you worship I to am
[1:10:59] against the amendment and fully support
[1:11:02] the original uh
[1:11:04] motion any other speakers to the
[1:11:08] amendment seeing none I will call a
[1:11:10] question on the amendment all those in
[1:11:17] favor the amendment fails councelor
[1:11:20] lingren councelor canel and myself in
[1:11:23] favor councelor lavry councelor Wallace
[1:11:24] rich councelor Flynn and councelor Canon
[1:11:27] opposed so we're back to the original
[1:11:29] motion and councelor lingren it's your
[1:11:31] turn to speak yeah I just have a
[1:11:33] question
[1:11:35] about um responsibility in the eyes of
[1:11:38] the public and if um for instance a
[1:11:43] project went
[1:11:45] ahead uh people from the community felt
[1:11:47] that it should have had a sidewalk or a
[1:11:50] multi-use path or some other upgrade
[1:11:54] done and and uh the city didn't complete
[1:11:57] it who who will the public hold
[1:12:00] responsible for that and is that the
[1:12:03] right place for it is that I feel like
[1:12:06] the city will be standing in the firing
[1:12:10] line when it should be us taking the
[1:12:12] heat from the public uh for decisions
[1:12:15] that are
[1:12:16] made uh by the city and so I'm I'm
[1:12:20] curious if anybody has any insight into
[1:12:22] how that could play out
[1:12:26] um don't staff wanted to comment that I
[1:12:29] could I could give you my opinion I
[1:12:31] think my opinion would be that um it
[1:12:34] would come back to council generally we
[1:12:35] get letters from people who are and it's
[1:12:37] easy to Mayor and Council so I think
[1:12:40] that's the way it would
[1:12:41] go right but the council would then be
[1:12:44] being held responsible by the public for
[1:12:47] a decision they aren't making and what
[1:12:49] would be the response from Council we're
[1:12:52] sorry we'll think about doing it
[1:12:53] different next time because we won't be
[1:12:57] and Council would then have to decide
[1:12:58] whether they wanted to fund whatever
[1:13:00] they request from the person who wrote
[1:13:01] the letter was and that would be up to
[1:13:03] them but it wouldn't be coming forward
[1:13:05] to council staff would be making the
[1:13:08] decision yes that's
[1:13:11] correct
[1:13:13] so yeah maybe I didn't explain myself
[1:13:15] very well you're you're right staff
[1:13:17] would make the decision resident would
[1:13:19] write to council Council would say maybe
[1:13:22] we should put that sidewalk in there put
[1:13:24] it next year 's budget or no we think
[1:13:27] staff was right we don't need debt
[1:13:31] sidewalk okay I I see a lot of wasted
[1:13:35] money when we look back and say oh we
[1:13:38] did that project last year let's tear it
[1:13:40] up and put a sidewalk in the time to do
[1:13:42] these works is when it's all torn up to
[1:13:44] do the work in the first place and I
[1:13:46] think that if council is going to be
[1:13:47] held responsible for those decisions
[1:13:49] they should be making those
[1:13:52] decisions okay thank you um other
[1:13:55] speakers councel
[1:13:57] lavry yeah thanks for a second time your
[1:13:59] worship I mean so I think the the uh
[1:14:02] differences are have been well of of
[1:14:05] thought have been well exemplified here
[1:14:07] uh this is not a criticism of staff at
[1:14:10] all um so I one question and another
[1:14:13] comment through you if I remember
[1:14:15] correctly uh
[1:14:18] we
[1:14:20] passed a variance Todo work down at the
[1:14:25] water treatment plant upgrade is that
[1:14:28] correct yes that is correct to Pump
[1:14:30] Station two yeah and threeyear
[1:14:34] worship did the fact of H how long did
[1:14:37] that defer the project by having to go
[1:14:41] through our existing process of coming
[1:14:42] to council to support that
[1:14:45] exemption I I'll pass that on to the
[1:14:48] director of engineering Public Works um
[1:14:51] in regards to time it was more just one
[1:14:53] more step but ultimately it comes down
[1:14:56] to the cost it would have significantly
[1:14:59] increased the cost of that project and
[1:15:01] I'm not sure that uh we would have been
[1:15:03] able to complete it all or got approval
[1:15:06] for the the costs but having said that
[1:15:09] um it could have been included in the
[1:15:11] total works but we're seeing so many
[1:15:14] costs uh escalating over the next or
[1:15:17] over the last year and in future um so
[1:15:20] we are looking at basically doing the
[1:15:22] project if it's a building permit uh
[1:15:25] similar to the zone five doing the
[1:15:27] project and then postponing the frontage
[1:15:30] works for a later date when it can be
[1:15:32] combined with a larger
[1:15:35] project councilor lavry I'll pass it
[1:15:37] back to you yeah no thanks for the
[1:15:39] response to that so
[1:15:41] that in many ways bolsters the point
[1:15:44] that I'm going to make is that I I was
[1:15:46] one I I I can't remember the exact vote
[1:15:48] but I think it was heartily endorsed to
[1:15:51] uh for the city to exempt itself from
[1:15:54] the lications of that work that was done
[1:15:57] and what I'm hearing is it didn't take a
[1:16:00] lot of extra time it was one more step
[1:16:02] and I appreciate that um I would like I
[1:16:07] I would like to know I think that's a
[1:16:08] higher standard than uh essentially what
[1:16:13] the
[1:16:15] proposal uh puts forward I think it's a
[1:16:17] higher standard and at least gives
[1:16:19] Council the review of that this has been
[1:16:21] mentioned before um doesn't signific L
[1:16:25] delay it unless I am missing something
[1:16:28] so uh your worship I um be interested to
[1:16:32] see what the lay it doesn't have to be a
[1:16:34] spreadsheet but the lay of the land is
[1:16:37] in terms of projects that might fall
[1:16:39] into this category and I would move that
[1:16:42] we defer this motion until we get that
[1:16:44] information there second to the deferral
[1:16:47] councelor lingren as there's no
[1:16:50] discussion on deferral we'll call a
[1:16:52] question on the deferral all those in
[1:16:54] favor
[1:16:55] any
[1:17:00] opposed the deferral motion passes
[1:17:02] councelor Canon counselor Flynn are
[1:17:05] opposed we didn't put a timeline on it
[1:17:08] deferral except uh to receive the
[1:17:09] information so we'll leave that with
[1:17:11] staff to bring that back to us Council
[1:17:14] will proceed to
[1:17:17] correspondence
[1:17:19] 348 I think it's time for a comfort
[1:17:22] break let's take five minutes and then
[1:17:25] uh we'll be back here at
[1:17:28] 3:55 I'm optimistic we're going to get
[1:17:31] informational correspondence done in 5
[1:17:33] minutes and we'll be ready for our uh
[1:17:36] friends from the Samar Mar Center at 4
[1:17:53] o'clock
[1:18:23] e e
[1:24:21] regular council meeting of Monday
[1:24:23] February
[1:24:26] 10 just give everybody a chance to get
[1:24:32] settled okay we are at uh section 12 the
[1:24:37] correspondent section we have five
[1:24:39] pieces of informational
[1:24:41] correspondents please uh indicate if you
[1:24:43] wish to speak to any councelor Ken your
[1:24:45] name was up here and I wasn't sure if it
[1:24:47] was about informational correspondent
[1:24:48] press again if you would please thank
[1:24:50] you councelor Canon please go
[1:24:53] ahead so what was the letter from
[1:24:58] sabnis I'm
[1:25:00] [Music]
[1:25:05] requesting about the tower that they're
[1:25:08] I'm writing on behalf of the board blah
[1:25:10] blah blah um safety concerns of the Old
[1:25:13] Tower poses potential safety
[1:25:17] hazard
[1:25:18] and just wanted to support them in this
[1:25:24] so do we need to write a letter of
[1:25:27] support they're asking for money yeah
[1:25:30] would you perhap did you want to hear
[1:25:32] from staff uh could we ask that or yeah
[1:25:35] okay sure um I'm not sure if it would be
[1:25:37] the director of engineering of Public
[1:25:38] Works um or if it Mr jro who wanted to
[1:25:42] speak to
[1:25:45] it yeah think you Council so yeah this
[1:25:47] is uh Sav is asking for assistance to
[1:25:51] remove the the last remaining bird
[1:25:54] platform the one just north of Christmas
[1:25:57] Island I believe their request is
[1:26:00] proposed to contribute 3,000 towards the
[1:26:03] removal um our estimates um are
[1:26:07] estimates but we're guessing about $6 to
[1:26:09] 7,000 in complete cost for moove that
[1:26:11] platform with the city staff okay so I
[1:26:14] think Mr drill I think they're
[1:26:16] suggesting they would contribute 3,000
[1:26:17] that's what you said so you're saying
[1:26:21] that if the council wish to help it
[1:26:23] would be about
[1:26:25] $4,000 um would be the enough money to
[1:26:28] make that happen that would be the
[1:26:29] estimate amount yes okay councilor Canon
[1:26:32] I'll pass back to
[1:26:34] you um I guess I mean I would be willing
[1:26:38] to support them in that perhaps maybe we
[1:26:41] have money out of council
[1:26:44] initiatives okay um if you'd like to
[1:26:46] make a motion to take $4,000 from
[1:26:48] Council initiatives to do this project
[1:26:51] then I would be open to that motion if
[1:26:53] there's a second or okay make that
[1:26:54] motion councelor Flynn will second it do
[1:26:57] you wish to speak to the motion
[1:26:58] councelor Canon no I just think that
[1:27:00] this is something that we wanted uh to
[1:27:03] move ahead on and do so I think it's
[1:27:06] something that we should support thank
[1:27:08] you other speakers to that motion
[1:27:10] councelor um Flynn okay go ahead yeah
[1:27:15] speaking to the motion I support us
[1:27:17] providing up to
[1:27:19] $4,000 I knowing we're doing the budget
[1:27:22] on Wednesday and knowing I don't think
[1:27:24] we spent all our Council initiatives
[1:27:26] last year but I'm not sure I would ask
[1:27:30] the CFO what happens to unspent council
[1:27:34] initiatives in budget do we have the
[1:27:36] opportunity to roll them over and
[1:27:39] accumulate this last year's with this
[1:27:41] year's uh and then the other question I
[1:27:44] have is councelor uh lingren made me
[1:27:46] aware that we supposedly on paper still
[1:27:49] have some money in a Canada 150 fund
[1:27:53] somewhere in the neighborhood of
[1:27:55] $137,000 or not 13
[1:27:57] 37,000 I wish it was 137 and I'm not
[1:28:00] sure if we could use that instead of
[1:28:01] council initiatives so those are my
[1:28:03] questions Chief Financial Officer um
[1:28:06] regarding the council initiatives piece
[1:28:08] and any unused fund from 2024 do they
[1:28:11] roll
[1:28:13] over threee warship the council
[1:28:16] initiatives I've budgeted on a onetime
[1:28:18] line and they do not roll forward into a
[1:28:22] reserve per year and the current
[1:28:24] budget you guys have probably seen
[1:28:26] already is
[1:28:28] $175,000 the reason why I put it as one
[1:28:30] time is because I've reviewed the last
[1:28:31] few years had noticed that it wasn't
[1:28:34] used and I didn't feel like creating one
[1:28:37] more account or Reserve within the our
[1:28:40] long list okay so there's uh you're
[1:28:43] suggesting 17 a half thousand in the
[1:28:46] 2025 budget and coun Canon's motion is
[1:28:49] to uh if she accepted Council LA's
[1:28:51] friendly amendment is up to four ,000
[1:28:55] from that account councilor Canon is
[1:28:57] that correct um yeah I thought it was at
[1:29:00] 4000
[1:29:03] after yeah I think yeah so are you
[1:29:06] comfortable with up to 4,000 okay thank
[1:29:08] you um and the second is comfortable
[1:29:11] with that I am except I'd rather find
[1:29:13] another source if we can't use some of
[1:29:15] last year's so I don't know about this
[1:29:17] 37,000 in the Canada 150 was the second
[1:29:20] part of my question okay I think
[1:29:23] councilor wall Richman might know
[1:29:24] something about that 150 money but I'm
[1:29:27] not positive councelor Wallace Richmond
[1:29:29] maybe I'm thinking of a different
[1:29:31] fund
[1:29:33] um my understanding was we we allocated
[1:29:37] that money those monies last year uh to
[1:29:40] upgrade the corner where the Senate tap
[1:29:46] is so failing failing Clarity on that if
[1:29:50] there is money left in the um
[1:29:55] Council
[1:29:56] initiatives perhaps that's the best
[1:29:58] motion to
[1:29:59] discuss okay um Council Flyn do you wish
[1:30:02] to comment further yeah so the fact
[1:30:05] there is money in Council initiatives
[1:30:07] our brand new 175 that hasn't been
[1:30:09] allocated I am saying as a last resource
[1:30:13] I would support using it now in Council
[1:30:17] initiatives I'd rather carry forward
[1:30:19] from last year if that's possible but it
[1:30:20] doesn't sound like it is or find out
[1:30:23] what happened with this 37,000 in that
[1:30:26] Canada 150 thank you um councelor
[1:30:30] lingren thanks your worship um so this
[1:30:34] came up about uh maybe a month ago
[1:30:37] sabnis brought it to the attention of
[1:30:39] the city because they were looking for
[1:30:41] some assistance to remove the bird beam
[1:30:43] platform it's decrepid and poses a risk
[1:30:46] to safety if uh we end up with teenagers
[1:30:48] out there at a party one night climbing
[1:30:50] it um when they brought the idea to the
[1:30:54] city uh Darren did a costing and told
[1:30:57] them that it would be about $6,000 and
[1:30:59] so the reason they're putting up 3,000
[1:31:01] of their own money is because they
[1:31:02] wanted to make sure that uh they were
[1:31:05] contributing 50% so I have no problem uh
[1:31:09] going with three to $4,000 if we want to
[1:31:11] spend more um I I also think that that
[1:31:15] Canada 150 account is empty and I'm not
[1:31:18] sure why it's showing money uh if
[1:31:20] there's money in it I suggest we spend
[1:31:22] it on this uh there are also other areas
[1:31:25] that I think where we could take the
[1:31:26] money I think that the covid restart
[1:31:28] Grant still has $71,000 in it and we've
[1:31:32] spent more than uh the 3.6 million I
[1:31:37] think already um so the money the
[1:31:39] 71,000 that's in the account is an
[1:31:42] accumulation of interest on paper and
[1:31:45] should be able to be spent on just about
[1:31:47] anything I would think though I think
[1:31:49] that the covid restart Grant would be um
[1:31:52] a usable uh place to get the money from
[1:31:55] for this uh but one way or another I
[1:31:57] support a motion that we uh put up at
[1:32:00] least 50% of the money and help get rid
[1:32:03] of this uh platform so that there's a
[1:32:05] fresh start for the new platform to go
[1:32:07] in and uh this is the appropriate time
[1:32:10] to do it because the equipment's already
[1:32:11] on the foreshore doing the uh sewer main
[1:32:15] or sewer relining or whatever we called
[1:32:18] it down there so I think that that would
[1:32:19] reduce the cost of uh for time
[1:32:23] especially
[1:32:24] great thank you councelor lingren and
[1:32:26] the present motion is to have the monies
[1:32:28] come from Council initiatives councelor
[1:32:33] lavry yeah
[1:32:38] um I think you wish this for me this is
[1:32:41] I'm I'm in favor of the attent of the
[1:32:42] principal up to 4,000 and I can explain
[1:32:46] why at a different time but I think that
[1:32:48] we need uh a I think this is part of the
[1:32:51] the budget discussion I agree with
[1:32:52] councelor Flynn if it's coming out of
[1:32:54] 2025 Council initiatives 25 uh is a last
[1:32:59] resort um I I'm not sure that I want to
[1:33:03] put staff on the spot here of saying
[1:33:05] what about Canada uh you know the the
[1:33:08] Canada Day thing what about uh some of
[1:33:11] the other possible accounts I think that
[1:33:13] we should leave that with them and defer
[1:33:17] this to our budget discussions my second
[1:33:19] deferral of the day your worship
[1:33:22] proposal is that a deferral motion that
[1:33:24] you're making councelor it is is a
[1:33:26] deferral motion to uh to the budget
[1:33:30] process is there a second or to the
[1:33:32] deferral motion councelor Flynn will
[1:33:34] second that motion um there's no
[1:33:36] discussion of deferral all those in
[1:33:39] favor of the
[1:33:42] deferral councelor labry councelor
[1:33:45] Wallace WR and councelor flynner in
[1:33:46] favor the defer motion does not pass
[1:33:49] we'll go back to the table and consider
[1:33:51] the motion which is to contribute up to
[1:33:54] $4,000 from Council initiatives to
[1:33:57] assist sabnis with a removal of uh this
[1:34:00] deck any speakers to that motion
[1:34:04] councelor Flynn I'm going to ask the
[1:34:06] Mover because I believe it was you
[1:34:07] councelor Canon um if we could word the
[1:34:11] motion that up to $4,000 from a fund
[1:34:14] councilor Flynn if you want to amend the
[1:34:16] motion you can try amending the motion
[1:34:18] you don't talk to the Mover about
[1:34:19] amending it that goes through the chair
[1:34:22] I would like to amend the motion
[1:34:24] to change the wording to from Council
[1:34:27] initiatives to from a source to be
[1:34:34] determined that makes the most sense
[1:34:37] councelor Flynn that that would be a
[1:34:38] different motion so I'm sorry I can't
[1:34:40] accept that as an amendment okay I'll
[1:34:42] vote against the motion he councelor
[1:34:44] Canon speaking to the amendment or to
[1:34:46] the motion well I'm very glad that this
[1:34:49] motion didn't get deferred even though
[1:34:51] we couldn't speak about it if it would
[1:34:53] have
[1:34:54] because I think councelor lingren makes
[1:34:56] a really good point we have we will have
[1:34:59] the equipment down there doing work so
[1:35:01] time is of the essence it doesn't need
[1:35:04] to get wrapped up in bureaucracy of
[1:35:07] where the money's coming from I know
[1:35:09] that last at our last council meeting we
[1:35:12] took money from Council initiatives and
[1:35:15] it wasn't talked about that it was out
[1:35:17] of this year's budget and this pot and
[1:35:20] that pot and that was uh to give money
[1:35:22] towards having a celebration party this
[1:35:25] is a very
[1:35:27] important project and we know how much
[1:35:30] that trail gets used so I think this is
[1:35:33] money very well spent and this is an
[1:35:36] important thing to do while we have the
[1:35:38] equipment down
[1:35:41] there hey thank you um further speakers
[1:35:45] councelor lingren thanks your worship um
[1:35:48] I think I asked a question the last time
[1:35:50] I was up and was wondering if the if
[1:35:53] staff could could speak about the covid
[1:35:54] restart Grant and whether or not we can
[1:35:56] take the money from there okay um Chief
[1:36:00] uh Financial
[1:36:02] Officer uh the covid re uh restart money
[1:36:05] is funds are sitting there we've set
[1:36:08] them
[1:36:09] aside for the future trying not to at
[1:36:14] least set a few Pockets here and there
[1:36:16] to be discussed further on budget day
[1:36:18] but those funds are not spoken for at
[1:36:19] this moment thank you Council lingren
[1:36:23] yeah I did see that there was quite a
[1:36:25] bit of that money uh earmarked for
[1:36:27] projects that are going to be completed
[1:36:29] in
[1:36:30] 2025 and after all of those projects are
[1:36:33] funded there's still $71,000 so uh I
[1:36:36] would like to make
[1:36:39] uh Amendment to the pocket of money and
[1:36:42] make it the covid restart Grant rather
[1:36:44] than Council initiatives I will accept
[1:36:46] that Amendment um because it's specific
[1:36:48] is there a second to that Amendment
[1:36:50] councelor Flynn
[1:36:54] discussion around that
[1:36:56] Amendment my discussion will be I'll
[1:36:58] support it I think we those of read the
[1:37:02] budget know all those pockets and we've
[1:37:04] got our eyes on them for this budget
[1:37:06] whether that money comes out of out of
[1:37:08] council initiatives out of that budget
[1:37:10] or any of the other ones at the front of
[1:37:12] that budget don't really make any
[1:37:14] difference because we're going to be
[1:37:16] looking to spend that money um when when
[1:37:18] we have budget discussion here so I
[1:37:20] don't mind supporting the amendment um
[1:37:23] yeah no troubles councelor Flynn did you
[1:37:26] wish to speak to the amendment speak in
[1:37:28] favor of the amendment but did have a
[1:37:29] question related to the amendment um we
[1:37:32] had originally talked about deferral we
[1:37:34] can't discuss deferral in my
[1:37:36] understanding it was for two days till
[1:37:38] the budget process but can I ask staff
[1:37:40] how long the equipment will be there and
[1:37:42] how long we have to get the work done
[1:37:44] because I don't think deferring two days
[1:37:46] would have been an issue sure we we can
[1:37:49] ask the director of engineering Public
[1:37:50] Works uh regarding the the project
[1:37:54] your worship the the foreshore main
[1:37:56] relining is is going to take several
[1:37:59] months to do so they'll be down there
[1:38:01] for a significant amount of time and I
[1:38:03] suspect that it'll be in cooperation
[1:38:04] with City staff as well
[1:38:07] so I will vote in favor of the amendment
[1:38:09] because I don't want to tie our hands on
[1:38:11] Council initiatives especially in what I
[1:38:13] know is going to be a difficult budget
[1:38:14] year so thank you hey thank you
[1:38:17] councelor Flint any other speakers
[1:38:19] counselor labry I don't want to miss you
[1:38:22] out um I think think I think you just
[1:38:24] pressed your you just indicated you wish
[1:38:26] to speak please go ahead it's not on the
[1:38:28] amendment your worship I'll I'll wait
[1:38:30] till after okay any other speakers to
[1:38:33] the
[1:38:33] amendment and the amendment is to change
[1:38:36] the source of where the monies would
[1:38:37] come
[1:38:39] from seeing none I'll call a question
[1:38:41] all those in favor of the
[1:38:45] amendment that passes
[1:38:47] unanimously now the count the motion as
[1:38:50] amended I'll go to councelor lavry First
[1:38:55] uh thank you worship um no I think as
[1:38:57] things have um progressed I I I'll
[1:39:01] support the motion at hand this is I I
[1:39:04] haven't heard anyone at the table here
[1:39:06] talk about the importance the immediacy
[1:39:08] of this the need to flange it up with
[1:39:10] the work that's being done there it's
[1:39:12] really is the source of uh where the
[1:39:15] revenue would come from for from a very
[1:39:17] unique situation I think we need to be
[1:39:20] responsive and I think we can so I'm I
[1:39:22] fully support what's in front of us
[1:39:24] thank
[1:39:24] you thank you any other speakers to the
[1:39:27] motion as
[1:39:30] amended seeing none I'll call a question
[1:39:32] all those in
[1:39:34] favor that passes unanimously thank you
[1:39:37] Council thank you for your assistant
[1:39:38] staff and getting that uh to us other
[1:39:42] items on informational correspondence
[1:39:44] councelor Flynn
[1:39:46] 12.15 can we just pass that on to Mr jro
[1:39:50] or the director of engineering and
[1:39:52] Public Works to work with the
[1:39:53] organization is that all we need at this
[1:39:55] table just check with our chief
[1:39:57] administrative officer we don't need a
[1:39:58] motion to do that do
[1:40:00] we your Worship in the past my
[1:40:03] understanding is that it was referred to
[1:40:04] the rec Society it it was at council's
[1:40:07] table for some time if council's
[1:40:09] comfortable referring it then that's
[1:40:12] completely okay do we need a motion um
[1:40:15] no you can leave it with us okay if
[1:40:18] anyone wants to speak other than that
[1:40:21] please let us know and we can form
[1:40:23] normalize
[1:40:25] that okay I think everybody's satisfied
[1:40:27] with that thank you councelor Flynn
[1:40:29] anyone else wish to speak to
[1:40:30] informational
[1:40:34] correspondence okay I think some of you
[1:40:37] have looked at
[1:40:39] 12.1.3 Mr wier's uh shwap Lifeboat
[1:40:43] Society activities video If you haven't
[1:40:45] seen the video it's worth taking 15
[1:40:47] minutes to watch it it's very well done
[1:40:50] and very
[1:40:51] informative okay I see no other speakers
[1:40:53] to that our guests are
[1:40:57] here hello Christie hi thank you for
[1:41:00] being here please come forward and thank
[1:41:03] you Tracy also you would like a little
[1:41:05] slot at the end right Tracy okay we'll
[1:41:07] make sure we do
[1:41:08] that okay councelor ganella you're going
[1:41:10] to leave at this time aren't you all
[1:41:13] right
[1:41:35] sorry please go ahead thank you for
[1:41:38] coming to and reporting to usks for me
[1:41:42] don't know my
[1:41:43] name
[1:41:47] exor microphone please I'll get closer
[1:41:51] my name is Christy Watson executive
[1:41:53] director of District Arts Council and
[1:41:56] many of you know the Arts Council at the
[1:41:58] Zam Arts Center and I want to start by
[1:42:01] thanking mayor and councel for the
[1:42:03] recent increase to our fee for service
[1:42:06] the stability and capacity that this
[1:42:08] provides will increase our impact on the
[1:42:10] region and will also keep us competitive
[1:42:13] in the provincial and National Grant
[1:42:15] competitions as more and more we're
[1:42:17] seeing funders want to see
[1:42:19] organizational stability um towards
[1:42:28] so I've got lot I want to share with you
[1:42:29] today so I'm going to go through pretty
[1:42:31] quickly so we can leave some time the
[1:42:33] end to go anything with a little more
[1:42:34] detail if so I just want to begin with
[1:42:38] our
[1:42:39] budget if I could interrupt that
[1:42:41] microphone please where it's very hard
[1:42:43] to
[1:42:46] hear sorry about that so our um our
[1:42:49] budget revenues for uh for last year we
[1:42:52] can see
[1:42:54] myass 3,
[1:42:59] 36652 Sal arm uh city of Salmon Arm
[1:43:03] contributions represent about 15% of our
[1:43:05] total revenues our largest source of
[1:43:08] revenues is Project grant funding
[1:43:11] followed by operational
[1:43:14] grants and in expenses we have a balance
[1:43:17] budget this past year most of what we
[1:43:20] spend money on are salaries followed by
[1:43:23] artist fees and program contracts that
[1:43:25] represents what 83% of our budget goes
[1:43:28] directly to people living in and around
[1:43:31] s most so I'm very I'm pleased to be
[1:43:34] able to provide as much economic support
[1:43:37] for
[1:43:39] individuals across all programs our
[1:43:41] total attendance was
[1:43:43] 8,711 and the total artists that were
[1:43:45] engaged for the past
[1:43:55] so our work is uh made possible through
[1:43:57] uh a lot of Partnerships a lot of
[1:43:59] collaboration we're very pleased to
[1:44:00] partner last year sh up IM Services
[1:44:03] Society C sh re sto sh children's
[1:44:07] Society songs barel Hallen theater sh
[1:44:10] theater Society rise up indigenous
[1:44:12] Wellness SC first na B SAR Economic
[1:44:15] Development society and downtown
[1:44:18] s these wonderful organizations and in
[1:44:22] addition support we received from the
[1:44:24] city we are also fed by the BC Arts
[1:44:26] Council BC tourism BC direct access
[1:44:28] gaming BC touring Council sh foundation
[1:44:37] and so we'll start by uh going into our
[1:44:40] programming so that we can see what all
[1:44:42] that looks like starting with the sound
[1:44:45] arm Art Gallery exhibitions for
[1:44:47] 20124 we started last year with a
[1:44:50] exhibition called environments for
[1:44:52] reading
[1:44:53] cozy notes for reading and
[1:44:57] reflection and a large community
[1:45:00] collaboration where a bunch of PODS were
[1:45:02] built that knitting and cting and so so
[1:45:05] together and we um we sold all
[1:45:17] those followed uh foll that show was
[1:45:21] which is a word a
[1:45:24] tree and it featured uh 12 artists
[1:45:27] exploring trees and artistic responses
[1:45:30] to
[1:45:51] that
[1:46:21] e e
[1:47:33] I don't think so because I hear see your
[1:47:35] light so uh councelor lavy councelor
[1:47:38] Wallace Richmond can you hear
[1:47:41] me uh I can hear you I can hear you as
[1:47:45] well sir your worship okay you can hear
[1:47:48] me okay so it's something to do with
[1:47:49] what's going on up there we'll work on
[1:47:51] it we've gone from low sound to no
[1:47:56] sound okay it's not our speaker's fault
[1:47:59] um it must be some technical problem so
[1:48:03] we're working okay just progress it' be
[1:48:05] fine
[1:48:12] thanks anything
[1:48:15] now councelor lavry can you hear him
[1:48:18] now this is me
[1:48:21] talking uh it's it's very very low and I
[1:48:24] got my speakers turned up to the top you
[1:48:25] worship so there's something it's
[1:48:27] something uh electronic there we'll take
[1:48:30] you to we'll take Christie to a
[1:48:31] different mic he's very
[1:48:38] flexible how's that how's
[1:48:42] that how are are you hearing me now oh
[1:48:45] yes we can you comment on the covid-19
[1:48:48] budget the covid-19 budget gez well
[1:48:51] where to begin
[1:48:53] okay please go ahead sorry sorry
[1:48:55] counselors but I think we're okay now
[1:48:58] thanks very much this is very cozy over
[1:48:59] here
[1:49:00] now uh let's see here so we're just
[1:49:02] wrapping up the so the Drag Brunch we've
[1:49:04] been running as part of the lad BR
[1:49:06] celebration for a few years it's
[1:49:08] extremely popular and and wonderful to
[1:49:10] see people of all ages eating together
[1:49:13] sharing laughs and entertainment
[1:49:15] inclusion and
[1:49:17] openness next up is tote theater on the
[1:49:20] edge which is uh a new Initiative for us
[1:49:22] we part it's been going on for the last
[1:49:24] decade run by the shwap theater and we
[1:49:26] partnered with shwab theater last year
[1:49:28] to present tote uh we presented a range
[1:49:30] of really interesting shows including uh
[1:49:34] shipa with Kent and
[1:49:36] Thomas um this show is called it's a
[1:49:39] little scroll down this is June bug by
[1:49:41] uh ragam muffin Theater which is a
[1:49:43] theater for all ages
[1:49:46] show uh we presented a show called Dey
[1:49:49] by a company called uh follow the signs
[1:49:52] theater from Calgary this was written
[1:49:54] and performed by a profoundly deaf
[1:49:55] artist about his experience coming to
[1:49:57] terms with
[1:49:58] that we also presented a show called
[1:50:01] Playing Fields by the chop theater uh
[1:50:04] and we did that show outside at Jackson
[1:50:08] Field and we did a show by runaway Moon
[1:50:11] theater called how did you get here
[1:50:13] which featured four different shows that
[1:50:15] all pop out of a small
[1:50:18] suitcase Wednesday on the warf of course
[1:50:20] takes place as it always does every
[1:50:23] summer uh it's always wonderful to see
[1:50:25] so many people out for this this free
[1:50:28] community Gathering um there's nine
[1:50:30] shows in total I'll just give you a
[1:50:32] couple highlights uh the Kayla Williams
[1:50:35] and the yacht dades yacht rock band
[1:50:37] really brought down the house fantastic
[1:50:40] show and uh we're always very happy to
[1:50:43] to partner with roots and blues for one
[1:50:45] of the shows each Wednesday on the warf
[1:50:47] this one was Bueno rostro which was an
[1:50:49] indigenous Latin uh jazz band
[1:50:53] we were really uh very happy with the
[1:50:55] the turnout for the presentation of a
[1:50:57] band called en Karma which is a bangra
[1:50:59] band we tried something a little bit new
[1:51:01] this year where we made some uh show
[1:51:04] specific flyers for this one in
[1:51:05] particular was uh in English and Punjabi
[1:51:08] and we put extra effort into going to or
[1:51:11] rather astred varns put an extra effort
[1:51:13] into going to um businesses local
[1:51:15] businesses around town with connections
[1:51:16] to the South Asian Community to really
[1:51:18] make sure that the word was getting out
[1:51:20] to everyone and the the turnout was
[1:51:22] really diverse really wonderful and it
[1:51:24] was a great great night we look forward
[1:51:26] to working with them
[1:51:28] again and of course our uh our paow uh
[1:51:31] pilot which was the last event in WoW uh
[1:51:35] was so beautiful so wonderful uh really
[1:51:38] well attended thanks so much to the the
[1:51:40] city for their support of this which we
[1:51:42] hope to make part of wow every year just
[1:51:45] show you a couple quick photos here
[1:51:57] couple of little ancillary things we do
[1:51:58] or maybe not so little this is the big
[1:52:00] yellow tent which we now have up in the
[1:52:02] uh spring summer fall months and people
[1:52:06] can sit here and have a their coffee or
[1:52:09] their lunch or small gathering can be
[1:52:11] held and we're looking for more ways to
[1:52:12] animate this outdoor space we also
[1:52:16] received a grant from the BC Arts found
[1:52:18] Arts um uh British Columbia Arts Council
[1:52:22] to to uh revamp our community art
[1:52:24] collection room so we have lovely
[1:52:25] rolling shelving now so we can really
[1:52:28] invest in that and find ways to make
[1:52:30] that more accessible to our
[1:52:35] community and of course we take every
[1:52:37] opportunity to uh have do arts based
[1:52:40] Community Development works there's just
[1:52:42] a few examples are Truth and
[1:52:43] Reconciliation Day the Earth Day
[1:52:46] celebration featuring runaway moons uh
[1:52:49] weaving project the treat Trail a Switz
[1:52:52] mou story sharing project we're working
[1:52:54] on with Louie Thomas and we've been also
[1:52:57] were had fun working with the Shoop IM
[1:53:00] Services Hive after school program
[1:53:02] bringing some artists to their program
[1:53:04] there's Kenton there on the bottom left
[1:53:05] telling some stories to
[1:53:07] Youth and uh I wanted to also give a
[1:53:10] quick fiveyear solar planel report now
[1:53:12] that we're five years into that project
[1:53:15] which is going really really well just a
[1:53:17] couple just a kind of brief overview for
[1:53:20] average annual production consumption
[1:53:21] and costs
[1:53:23] the uh production of the solar panels is
[1:53:25] approximately 10 megawatt hours per year
[1:53:28] so as a savings that represents about
[1:53:30] four tons of CO2 about approximately
[1:53:34] 60,000 kilometers of driving cost-wise
[1:53:38] that's a savings of
[1:53:40] $1,325 so when compared to the grid
[1:53:42] energy we use every year which is um
[1:53:45] about 8 megawatt hours the cost of that
[1:53:48] is
[1:53:50] $1,110 um the majority of that use is by
[1:53:54] the pottery club's Kiln which we tracked
[1:53:57] over a period of time and discovered
[1:54:00] that that was came to a cost of about
[1:54:02] $975 which the pottery Club is covering
[1:54:05] the cost of as part of their uh rental
[1:54:07] agreement with us so we end up spending
[1:54:10] about $135 a year on energy for the
[1:54:13] entire uh building which is really uh
[1:54:16] fantastic thing so what of course can we
[1:54:19] do with
[1:54:21] $1,325 well at the Arts Center we can do
[1:54:23] a lot and here's a few examples uh we
[1:54:26] can collaborate with rise up indigenous
[1:54:27] Wellness on a mural project for urban
[1:54:29] indigenous youth led by local artists
[1:54:31] and educator Sarah wans or we can
[1:54:35] partner with Sho up children's
[1:54:36] Association to host an eight-week drop
[1:54:38] in break dance series led by Manny
[1:54:40] Christensen or we can work with CMHA to
[1:54:43] present a crosscultural storytelling
[1:54:45] exchange with Kenan Thomas and Donna
[1:54:47] Michelle St Bernard at the CMHA learning
[1:54:50] Studios so we can do an awful lot with a
[1:54:53] small amount of money there and we
[1:54:54] really put it to good use and really
[1:54:56] appreciate all the the support that we
[1:55:00] receive so that's all from me about our
[1:55:03] report I'd like to uh invite Now Tracy
[1:55:06] Kucher up to share a few final words and
[1:55:09] if there's any questions afterwards I'm
[1:55:10] happy to speak to anything in more
[1:55:12] detail thank you very much thank you
[1:55:14] very much Christie and uh Tracy great to
[1:55:16] see you please come forward you guys can
[1:55:18] sit side by side there if you
[1:55:20] like oh look we all
[1:55:27] have welcome Tracy very nice to see you
[1:55:30] thank you and I very much appreciate
[1:55:32] this opportunity to speak to you today
[1:55:34] um I wanted to just have one and a half
[1:55:37] minutes to um to just have um an
[1:55:40] opportunity to thank you really uh the
[1:55:42] first time I stood in front of city
[1:55:44] council Colin ma was in the mayor's
[1:55:46] chair and you mayor Harrison was were a
[1:55:50] city counselor who was fondly referred
[1:55:52] to as the Minister of
[1:55:53] Finance and I do remember that um you
[1:55:58] asked a lot of even long before we
[1:55:59] talked about funding for the Arts Arts
[1:56:01] Council you asked a lot of financial
[1:56:03] questions and I wanted you to know that
[1:56:05] it made me very diligent about counting
[1:56:07] every dollar that came into and went out
[1:56:09] of the Arts Council thank you for that
[1:56:13] um I wanted to uh also remember that
[1:56:16] when Mayor Marty bzma was here um I
[1:56:19] asked him to if he would consider the
[1:56:21] Arts Council becoming the cultural arm
[1:56:23] of city council and he said I thought
[1:56:25] you already were and so from that moment
[1:56:30] I started to look at our relationship uh
[1:56:32] more as a partnership and I I wanted to
[1:56:37] um I wanted to work uh to deliver
[1:56:39] cultural services on your behalf and of
[1:56:41] course um we wanted to reach as many
[1:56:43] citizens as possible year round and
[1:56:46] through a wide variety of accessible
[1:56:47] programs and also take care of that
[1:56:49] incredibly beautiful Heritage building
[1:56:51] and I I believe that we've built trust
[1:56:53] and respect in that partnership over the
[1:56:55] years so throughout the establishment of
[1:56:58] the operating agreement uh through the
[1:57:00] cultural master plan through the pride
[1:57:02] project and many public art projects um
[1:57:06] I felt I have always felt boyed by the
[1:57:08] continued support and enthusiasm by city
[1:57:11] council and Senior staff and especially
[1:57:14] in these last few years uh because we
[1:57:16] are adapting to Rapid change and I fully
[1:57:19] appreciated that so as I now leave the
[1:57:21] organization in a very healthy place um
[1:57:24] I feel like that is in large part due to
[1:57:26] the support of the city of Salon arm and
[1:57:29] of course um I I may see you again it's
[1:57:32] a small town small City Big Ideas um I
[1:57:35] may see you again in another capacity
[1:57:37] but for now I just wanted to say Cooks
[1:57:38] Jem thank you for all the wonderful
[1:57:41] times well thank you very much Tracy
[1:57:44] really appreciate you
[1:57:56] I remember May uh Mayor
[1:57:59] Marty saying that and
[1:58:02] uh you were the arm of the arm of the
[1:58:05] culture of Salmon Arm so you've brought
[1:58:08] that a long ways and we appreciate um we
[1:58:12] appreciate all you've done you're right
[1:58:15] I I do like to watch pennies and dimes
[1:58:17] and nickels but I have to say that I
[1:58:20] think we've had amazing value the
[1:58:22] citizens of Salmon Arm for our the
[1:58:25] monies that we've spent and so thank you
[1:58:27] for that and I can see that carrying
[1:58:29] forward just looking at the report
[1:58:32] today counselors I'm going to open it up
[1:58:34] to you to any uh comments you'd like to
[1:58:36] make either questions or comments to
[1:58:38] Christie or to Tracy we'll start with
[1:58:40] councelor lingren thanks you worship and
[1:58:43] thanks to Tracy and Christie for the
[1:58:45] work that you do in Salmon Arm it's
[1:58:47] incredible um I think that the Arts
[1:58:51] Council has done far more than just
[1:58:53] celebrate art uh in Salmon Arm and if
[1:58:56] your goal was to create um to build
[1:58:59] culture create a safe and diverse space
[1:59:02] and to reach people you've done that and
[1:59:05] so much more um I'm a bit surprised that
[1:59:09] your casual speech there I I think you
[1:59:11] just told us you resigned or you've
[1:59:13] retired perhaps um and you just sort of
[1:59:16] slid that past without any Fanfare so um
[1:59:20] I just want to say that it's been an
[1:59:21] incred experience sitting up here and
[1:59:23] watching the work that you guys do and
[1:59:25] we appreciate all of it and the
[1:59:27] invitations for us to come and
[1:59:30] participate thank you councelor lingren
[1:59:32] councelor Wallace
[1:59:35] Richmond thank you so much and I'm so
[1:59:37] sorry I couldn't be there today to offer
[1:59:40] um a a handshake and more likely a hug
[1:59:45] um I just want to address first my
[1:59:47] comments to Tracy uh Tracy uh the mayor
[1:59:51] said you're the arm and I would actually
[1:59:55] um challenge him I think you're more
[1:59:57] like the heart of of the Arts community
[2:00:01] and the connections that have been built
[2:00:03] um over these many many years um through
[2:00:07] your dedication your kindness your
[2:00:10] belief in in samon arm samon arm is a
[2:00:12] much more connected Place uh uh than
[2:00:17] it's ever been and a lot of that heart
[2:00:20] lives in that building so
[2:00:22] for you and for Eric and for your family
[2:00:25] I mean from from the chief cookie maker
[2:00:28] on uh on down your whole family has put
[2:00:33] your heart into that building um and
[2:00:35] into the programming and you we are so
[2:00:39] profoundly grateful to have had you for
[2:00:42] as long as we did and um you have big
[2:00:45] shoes to fill Christie just so you know
[2:00:48] um and but we will continue to support
[2:00:51] you because we see the model and the
[2:00:53] model works when your District Arts
[2:00:56] Council is partnered with your
[2:00:59] municipality um we accomplish uh goals
[2:01:02] of building a stronger more
[2:01:05] inclusive uh Kinder uh more thoughtful
[2:01:09] uh more beautiful um and a healthier
[2:01:12] community so I'm very grateful for that
[2:01:15] and I and I look forward to what happens
[2:01:18] uh next art um just like heart doesn't
[2:01:22] have a beginning uh middle and an end it
[2:01:24] goes on forever so I'm grateful thank
[2:01:26] you so
[2:01:28] much thank you councelor Wallace
[2:01:30] Richmond and uh I will accept that
[2:01:33] Amendment heart for arm without second
[2:01:36] or much better
[2:01:38] actually my Council sometimes when I
[2:01:41] don't accept the amendment of the
[2:01:42] amendment they're a little curious but
[2:01:43] that one I take Council Flynn thank you
[2:01:47] worship I'm just going to thank uh you
[2:01:49] on behalf of the community and I've
[2:01:51] always joked at this table when I've
[2:01:53] been working beside counselor Wallace
[2:01:55] Richmond that she's been kind of my
[2:01:57] social and artistic Muse or whatever you
[2:02:00] would call her I've learned a lot from
[2:02:02] her but I'm not surprisingly she she
[2:02:06] said what I was going to say and I was
[2:02:07] going to say it in a different way but
[2:02:10] behind every great person like you every
[2:02:14] great woman is a good guy and I think of
[2:02:17] you guys and your
[2:02:20] family it's been the team and I thank
[2:02:24] you thank him and uh I'm not quite known
[2:02:28] as the finance guy like the mayor is but
[2:02:32] I would say there's not many
[2:02:35] organizations where we get as a
[2:02:36] community more value for the dollars we
[2:02:41] contribute thank you councelor Flynn
[2:02:43] councelor
[2:02:47] lavry yes thanks your worship uh Tracy
[2:02:49] thanks so much I uh I I'm just going to
[2:02:51] Echo what others have said and thank you
[2:02:54] um not only the arm and the heart but
[2:02:56] the mind as well um you have uh provided
[2:03:00] Direction uh you've managed from the
[2:03:03] middle and uh taken us forward so Tracy
[2:03:06] thank you for that I I just uh you know
[2:03:09] we're all struck by the developments uh
[2:03:12] in recent days and weeks here and how
[2:03:17] your not only dedication but injecting
[2:03:21] the importance of
[2:03:23] inclusivity of
[2:03:24] equity of uh embracing a range of our
[2:03:29] citizens um is becoming more and more
[2:03:32] important as as we go forward here and
[2:03:35] given
[2:03:37] the the impending dark clouds that that
[2:03:40] are that are happening in places so I I
[2:03:42] want to thank you for that leadership I
[2:03:44] know you'll continue on that in the
[2:03:46] community and uh I'm very grateful that
[2:03:49] uh you've provided that leadership so
[2:03:52] Tracy thank you very much for that to
[2:03:55] chrisy thanks for your report I just
[2:03:57] want to comment a little bit on the
[2:03:58] solar project I I know I have been
[2:04:00] talking I'm not sure if that came
[2:04:01] independently i' had asked Tracy it
[2:04:03] would be good to hear an update about
[2:04:05] that mainly because we spend all sorts
[2:04:08] of money and decisions on infrastructure
[2:04:10] some of it harder most of it underground
[2:04:14] most of it you can't see most of it it's
[2:04:17] really hard to determine the ROI of a
[2:04:20] project but to get this 5-year report
[2:04:23] where uh once taken off the money
[2:04:26] generated from the solar and taken off
[2:04:29] the power the pottery Club Kiln
[2:04:33] $135 a year for
[2:04:36] electricity based on the solar panel
[2:04:39] install that was done five years ago it
[2:04:41] doesn't get better than that and I just
[2:04:43] want to uh from a uh a council position
[2:04:46] say that these it's not only a good news
[2:04:49] story but it's great to get those
[2:04:50] numbers over time
[2:04:52] for some of the softer infrastructure
[2:04:54] that we do so thanks for providing that
[2:04:56] as well Christie look forward to uh big
[2:04:59] shoes to fill I'm sure you will fill
[2:05:01] them and uh look forward down the line
[2:05:03] thank you very
[2:05:04] much thank
[2:05:07] you okay councelor Flynn yeah um now
[2:05:11] moving to Christie's presentation thank
[2:05:13] you was really good um very detailed
[2:05:16] very succinct and I do want to say that
[2:05:19] um in my mind the decision by astred
[2:05:23] andu or whoever made it to have specific
[2:05:27] advertising for um one of the Bands uh
[2:05:32] we have one of the biggest fundraising
[2:05:33] events coming up Bollywood um
[2:05:37] and one of the biggest changes I've seen
[2:05:40] in our community is our diversification
[2:05:43] and well that it's not diversification
[2:05:45] wrong word but you know what I mean um
[2:05:48] but just we're a totally different I've
[2:05:49] been here for 20 years and we are a to
[2:05:51] totally different community and a lot of
[2:05:53] that is because of Tracy and her team
[2:05:56] and I'm quite confident based on your
[2:05:58] presentation and what you've done thus
[2:05:59] far that you're going to continue that
[2:06:01] but I think that was a good decision to
[2:06:03] have that specific piece because our
[2:06:07] community has changed so much and uh is
[2:06:10] much more diverse so thank you thank you
[2:06:14] councelor
[2:06:16] Flynn I think everyone's had their turn
[2:06:19] thank you Christie for your report I
[2:06:21] really appreciate it appreciate the time
[2:06:23] you put in and pictures tell all the
[2:06:25] words so thank you Tracy we will see you
[2:06:34] both we can invite councelor ganella
[2:06:37] back in for Council
[2:06:43] statements your worship councelor
[2:06:45] ganella has left okay great s like Elvis
[2:06:52] Council statements counselors does
[2:06:54] anyone have a statement uh councelor
[2:06:56] Wallace Richmond first please go
[2:06:59] ahead thank you uh I just wanted to give
[2:07:02] you a brief update on silga as you know
[2:07:06] uh the resolutions are wrapping up on
[2:07:10] February 15th the community excellence
[2:07:13] awards have been uh submitted for
[2:07:16] consideration uh there's a very exciting
[2:07:19] convention uh planned for merit if
[2:07:21] you've not spent a few days there I
[2:07:23] encourage everyone um to go the focus
[2:07:27] will be on economic and uh Community
[2:07:30] Development and we have an amazing um uh
[2:07:34] keynote speaker from the group small
[2:07:36] towns which is Making Waves all over
[2:07:38] North America um we've
[2:07:41] also working through a transition from
[2:07:45] Alison Slater who's been with sua for
[2:07:47] many years to Karen devise and that
[2:07:50] piece is going very well and and Karen
[2:07:52] is from Salon arm and we're working
[2:07:54] together regularly um to get all that
[2:07:57] training happening so it's a very
[2:07:59] exciting time for silga on the ubcm
[2:08:02] front the
[2:08:03] executive uh meeting happens um in next
[2:08:08] week in Vancouver I will be attending
[2:08:10] and I I'm on the seminar me or sorry
[2:08:13] their um economic and Community
[2:08:16] Development Committee as well as the
[2:08:18] convention committee and then an fcm um
[2:08:22] a regional or fcm board meeting is
[2:08:25] happening in dval in March very packed
[2:08:29] agenda um and I'm sure it won't surprise
[2:08:33] you to know that there's been a lot of
[2:08:34] work on the US tariff situation there
[2:08:37] was a big meeting with
[2:08:39] the government ministers the Prime
[2:08:42] Minister and big city caucus Mayors just
[2:08:46] last Thursday and they're beginning a
[2:08:49] series of Roundtable conversations with
[2:08:51] with all the provincial and um uh
[2:08:56] territorial Association uh caucuses
[2:08:59] that'll be happening uh also at the end
[2:09:02] of next week um and so once budget is
[2:09:05] done I'll I'll continue to focus on on
[2:09:08] that piece and I think it's really
[2:09:09] important for all of us to be at the
[2:09:11] table so if there's any you want me to
[2:09:13] raise on our behalf or on our Region's
[2:09:15] behalf please um you know where to find
[2:09:18] me and I'm very grateful thank you
[2:09:21] thank you councelor Wallace Richmond
[2:09:23] thank you for the work you do on both
[2:09:24] silga and ubcm looking forward to silga
[2:09:27] in Merit this year um we will go to
[2:09:30] councelor lingren for Council statements
[2:09:32] thanks you worship uh moving from the
[2:09:34] national stage to the local stage uh
[2:09:37] just a little bit of an update from
[2:09:39] sabnis uh hopefully you've all had a
[2:09:41] chance to look at the model of the new
[2:09:43] uh Eric Christmas Memorial boardwalk and
[2:09:45] birdine platform that's now located in
[2:09:47] the front lobby of city hall for the
[2:09:49] next week or so um
[2:09:52] designed and built by autof fmid and
[2:09:55] safely encased by Quinton lingren um so
[2:09:58] take a look and uh hopefully the
[2:10:01] community we wanted it here uh during
[2:10:03] the week when everybody was coming in to
[2:10:04] pay their utility bills and hopefully
[2:10:06] there's they have a little few dollars
[2:10:08] left over at the end and the information
[2:10:10] on how to donate to that project is on
[2:10:12] the cards that are located on the table
[2:10:15] uh the other uh report is from the
[2:10:18] environmental advisory committee uh last
[2:10:20] week we we had a really amazing
[2:10:22] presentation from am and Singh uh from
[2:10:26] home zero which is a nonprofit
[2:10:28] organization in Veron uh they gave us a
[2:10:31] a really um interesting presentation on
[2:10:34] this broads scope approach that they've
[2:10:36] taken to retrofitting older homes to
[2:10:38] reduce greenhous gases uh it's making uh
[2:10:41] an impact already it they've only done
[2:10:44] 11 homes as part of their pilot project
[2:10:46] in Vernon but it's already making an
[2:10:48] impact on reducing greenhouse gases and
[2:10:50] helping the city Vernon reduce or reach
[2:10:53] their
[2:10:54] um uh Greenhouse reduction targets um
[2:10:59] they're in the middle of expanding to a
[2:11:02] 100 homes and they will probably be
[2:11:05] submitting a letter to us in the near
[2:11:07] future asking us to um support their um
[2:11:10] application to fcm for uh additional
[2:11:13] funding for that project and I hope that
[2:11:16] at some point in the future they make a
[2:11:18] request to come and speak to council I
[2:11:19] think that you'll be really impressed
[2:11:20] with the scope of their
[2:11:23] project thank you very much councelor
[2:11:25] lingren and thank you to you and to
[2:11:27] Quinton for uh for making that available
[2:11:31] um to us the the new Eric Christmas
[2:11:34] Boardwalk it's
[2:11:35] exciting any other Council
[2:11:39] statements councelor lavry please go
[2:11:41] ahead yes thanks your worship um this is
[2:11:44] sort of uh in previous meetings and
[2:11:47] today as well uh just a reflection it's
[2:11:49] a statement but it's a reflection as
[2:11:51] well um I think more and more Community
[2:11:56] groups uh they're looking to funders
[2:11:58] local governments The Province the feds
[2:12:01] to um help support them in the good work
[2:12:04] they do and I think that's getting
[2:12:06] Tighter and Tighter for them to do it so
[2:12:07] therefore they're reaching out more and
[2:12:09] more for money and what has become clear
[2:12:12] to me especially at the regional
[2:12:14] district is that higher levels of
[2:12:16] government are now and I think they're
[2:12:20] doing it way too early without enough
[2:12:22] support but are mandating that Community
[2:12:27] organizations have Asset Management
[2:12:30] plans in place now I personally think
[2:12:34] that's a leap too far for a small
[2:12:35] community organization to do that but I
[2:12:39] think that there's a need and I'm just
[2:12:40] going to float this idea out here I
[2:12:42] don't know how to actualize it at all
[2:12:44] but there's a need for us to be figuring
[2:12:47] out a way of how we can partner to
[2:12:50] support community organizations in
[2:12:52] starting that asset management process
[2:12:55] as we are starting to do it as well so
[2:12:59] that you don't build something 20 years
[2:13:02] later it's falling down and then you're
[2:13:04] starting from Ground Zero literally in
[2:13:06] some cases to actually get it up and get
[2:13:09] it going and and and recover so I think
[2:13:12] it's uh uh I I'll bring this forward I
[2:13:13] like maybe uh other counselors we could
[2:13:16] uh work on some ideas on that but I do
[2:13:18] think that and and perhaps there's some
[2:13:21] training out there that I'm not aware of
[2:13:23] but I think it' be advantageous for all
[2:13:25] of us to put our heads together to uh
[2:13:28] start some Community
[2:13:32] organization uh process where groups can
[2:13:35] start to get their heads be introduced
[2:13:37] to and get their heads around Asset
[2:13:38] Management thank
[2:13:40] you thank you very much councelor lavy
[2:13:43] are there any other statements from
[2:13:44] counselers
[2:13:46] today thank you thank you for all of
[2:13:48] your work I know that you're all working
[2:13:50] hard on your committees out there and in
[2:13:52] the community okay we will go
[2:13:55] to question and answer
[2:13:58] period is there anyone who has a
[2:14:00] question that they like to ask Council
[2:14:02] either virtually or in person
[2:14:06] here okay seeing none um I'll accept a
[2:14:11] motion to return to in camera councelor
[2:14:14] lingren counc Canon thank you all those
[2:14:17] in favor