1 00:00:17,030 --> 00:00:19,050 [music] 2 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:25,600 [music] 3 00:00:28,165 --> 00:00:30,185 [music] 4 00:00:34,715 --> 00:00:36,735 [music] 5 00:00:43,230 --> 00:00:45,250 [music] 6 00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:50,490 [music] 7 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:00,970 [music] 8 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,840 » Few minutes early, so welcome everybody 9 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,440 to the Salt Lake City work session 10 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:12,440 for May 5th, 2026. Our meetings are 11 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,440 public. Uh and you're welcome to join us 12 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,640 in person or by watching from the 13 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Council agenda page, Zoom, or YouTube. 14 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Uh we hope you will continue to join us 15 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,160 in whichever manner you feel the most 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,360 comfortable. 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We're going to welcome at 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 the table Nick Torbett, council deputy 38 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,440 director, 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,520 Bill Wyatt, 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 maybe not, council 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,760 executive director of the airports, 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Trevor Anderson, airport operations 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,160 director, Paul Nielsen, senior city 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,160 attorney. And Nick 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,840 All right, thank you, Mr. Chair. This 46 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:39,240 briefing is about an ordinance that 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,800 would amend city code pertaining to lost 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,640 and misled property at the airports. 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,800 The recommended changes are necessary to 50 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:48,840 comply with Senate Bill 172, which was 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,600 passed this 2026 general session, and to 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,720 codify the process by which Salt Lake 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,000 City Department of Airports disposes of 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,360 misled property left at the airport. 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Uh, there will be a public hearing on 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 this on May 19th. 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,320 With that, I'll turn the time over to 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Paul. Uh, thank you. Um, Mr. Wyatt 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,040 couldn't make it and 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Mr. Anderson 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,400 is at a conference, so we have general 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,920 Jennifer Kaufman, who runs the airport's 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,880 lost and found operation with us today. 64 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:16,920 And let me just note that it is unusual 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 for 66 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:21,120 one of the city attorneys to be part of 67 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,200 the presentation, but a lot of this 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,160 effort is really sort of the legal 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,239 nitty-gritty technical stuff that is 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,280 probably not terribly interesting, but 71 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:30,280 um 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Uh, I've I've been involved in the 73 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,239 process for a little over 2 years now, 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,800 and 75 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:40,480 I 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:42,760 whatever Jennifer wants to add to that. 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,120 It's been a a long road to get what 78 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,480 we've been operating under at the 79 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,560 airport to be legal. And so, with Paul's 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,800 assistance, uh, we started with going to 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,640 the legislature and getting um that 82 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,040 updated to reflect what we're actually 83 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,240 doing at the airport and now we want to 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,640 propose that the ordinances with the 85 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,200 city also reflect that change. 86 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,160 I'll note that the the law that was 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,400 passed during this session goes into 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,080 effect tomorrow. So 89 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 we appreciate the council considering 90 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,760 this on 91 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 sort of a quick turnaround. 92 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,480 I don't know if you want me to explain 93 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,880 the 94 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,280 the the technical details. 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,239 Um 96 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:22,240 we start with 97 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:26,000 city ordinance 98 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,240 reflects what had been the state code 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,320 position and that is that only a law 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,840 enforcement agency has anything to do 101 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,600 with lost and found. We know the reality 102 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:37,120 pretty much everywhere is 103 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,800 something quite different. There are a 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,400 lot of government entities that have 105 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,240 lost and found operations, but the only 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 one recognized by state law until 107 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 tomorrow 108 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,080 is that the 109 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:52,000 one that deals with law enforcement. 110 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,400 So technically when you receive 111 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,240 when 112 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,200 government receives lost property 113 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,320 they're supposed to to involve law 114 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:04,080 enforcement. Um 115 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,080 part of that conversation 116 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,160 deals with the fact that 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,840 again until tomorrow the state law 118 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,960 indicates that when a law enforcement 119 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:15,160 officer even touches anything that's 120 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,840 lost and found has to be entered as 121 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,080 evidence. That doesn't make sense in 122 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:21,040 most cases, but I think that that 123 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,840 statute was developed at a time when we 124 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,560 had a different idea of what we were 125 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:25,800 dealing with when it comes to lost 126 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,640 stuff. 127 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:32,360 Um so we we had the legislature 128 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,760 create an exception for 129 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,480 law enforcement officers who are 130 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:39,960 assigned to airports 131 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,280 may touch the stuff in transition to and 132 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,960 this was a concern of Commander 133 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:46,240 Mitchell's. His his team is very uh by 134 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,520 the book. 135 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,280 They don't want to touch anything. They 136 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,560 do not They They just out of that 137 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:53,360 concern. Um and in the process, let me 138 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,560 just back up a little bit uh as far as 139 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:59,520 getting the legislation adopted, um we 140 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,440 realized that it might be uh a little 141 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,000 messy if we tried to involve every 142 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,800 single airport or every other public 143 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 entity. And so, we went with uh airports 144 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,720 that are required to have a law 145 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,400 enforcement presence per federal 146 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,440 regulations. So, that involves Salt Lake 147 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:19,040 City International, um Provo, Ogden, St. 148 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,040 George, and Cedar City. And we uh had a 149 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,280 collaborative effort with uh all of 150 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,120 their airport uh operators. And so, this 151 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:28,840 really only just applies to those 152 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:31,680 airports um as opposed to every uh 153 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:33,240 single regional or city airport. 154 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,120 Um 155 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,320 we cleaned up the language in uh chapter 156 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,680 2.10 uh to acknowledge that there two 157 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,840 different tracks here when it comes to 158 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,640 lost and found items. Um 159 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:48,680 updated some of the uh the language uh 160 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,840 in the code to reflect state code 161 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,720 changes in the last little while. 162 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:56,440 Um a lot of what 163 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,200 you'll see in the ordinance uh is 164 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,160 definitions, but the the meat of this is 165 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,760 the 166 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,840 um 167 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:08,560 the language that uh would be in the new 168 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:11,840 uh section 16.10.230, 169 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,680 um which is all about the process um of 170 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:17,240 receiving, inventorying, and uh and 171 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,240 disposition. Um 172 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,680 and that's kind of it. I don't know if 173 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,360 you have any specific questions about 174 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,080 how that happens. 175 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Councilmember Young. 176 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,880 No, thank you. I appreciate this. And as 177 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,760 someone who has had a child who lost 178 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,240 property, I love our website. So, good 179 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,160 good job in terms of like making it very 180 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,280 clear on things that have been found. If 181 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,720 you're ever curious, like what things 182 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,745 get left at the airport? Very 183 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,920 entertaining way to spend your time. 184 00:07:43,745 --> 00:07:45,520 » [laughter] 185 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,360 » Like you're like, who knew? Who was 186 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,520 traveling with that? Anyway, my key 187 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,880 question was just related to like the 188 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,200 sale of unclaimed property. 189 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Um I I appreciate, you know, funneling 190 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,000 it back into a system to be thoughtful 191 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,840 about not allocating additional taxpayer 192 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,160 dollars where we might have, you know, 193 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,600 the ability to cover. My question is, is 194 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,000 that the standard practice of most 195 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,920 airports? 196 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Um just curious kind of where that fits 197 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,960 in the larger landscape. 198 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Um I don't know if we could answer what 199 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,600 the practices of most airports, but I'll 200 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,320 tell you there's there's a complication 201 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,240 here, and that is 202 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,760 um when 203 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,480 nobody claims that property, it 204 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,840 essentially becomes ours. 205 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Um and as the holder of the property, 206 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,000 uh 207 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,159 the Department of Airports is 208 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,440 constrained by 209 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,560 federal regulations regarding revenue 210 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,680 diversion. So, 211 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:44,120 it's considered our the the department's 212 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,560 property, 213 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,280 and we have to dispose of it a certain 214 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:49,680 way. And it um 215 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,000 really the only way that that we can 216 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:53,200 feel comfortable, and when I say we, I 217 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,000 mean the Department of Airports, um 218 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,839 would feel comfortable with uh 219 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,560 handling those proceeds is putting it 220 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:03,000 back into 221 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:05,520 the enterprise fund, which has to go 222 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,120 to pay for the um the lost and found 223 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,920 operation, and it's not going to cover 224 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,640 that cost. 225 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Thank you. I appreciate that. And let me 226 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,880 just say, I didn't want to make this 227 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:17,240 personal, but uh Jennifer will tell you 228 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:20,080 that I regularly have to reach out to 229 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,480 her because uh colleagues lose things 230 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,040 such as laptops, um 231 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,040 » A shoe, 232 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,080 uh 233 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,360 a single yes, uh Jonathan Papelbon's. 234 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Um 235 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,360 I had to pick up my father's laptop a 236 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 few months ago, and then uh back in 237 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,600 uh 238 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,240 in February I had to reach out because I 239 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:45,640 lost a pair of sunglasses. 240 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,480 So, I am either the problem or the face 241 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,200 of the problem. 242 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,840 » You're contributing to the economy, so 243 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,720 we appreciate it. 244 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Um yeah, no, thank you for that. I don't 245 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,240 have any additional questions and think 246 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,560 that um I I appreciate you going through 247 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,560 a process by which to make sure our 248 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,160 policies and procedures are in alignment 249 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:04,960 with state code so that we don't run 250 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:08,440 into like any unintended issues there. 251 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:11,680 So, thank you for your work on that. 252 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Any Okay, it seems like we have 253 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:15,760 you know, answer all our questions. 254 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Thank you so much for for this update. 255 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,160 Thank you. 256 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,840 Moving on on the agenda, we're going to 257 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,800 go to item number two, which is an 258 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,840 ordinance for the indefinite alleyway 259 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,920 closure of Jefferson in Jefferson Park. 260 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,960 We're going to welcome Brian Fullmer, 261 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Council Policy Analyst, to the table, 262 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Tyler Murdock, Public Lands Deputy 263 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Director, and Amy Riile, Associate 264 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Landscape Architect, and we're going to 265 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,800 give Brian maybe a few minutes to 266 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,000 introduce this item. Thank you. 267 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a proposal 268 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,400 from the Department of Public Lands to 269 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:54,440 indefinitely close but retain ownership 270 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,960 of two alleys that the city owns within 271 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Jefferson Park, which is located in 272 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,480 District 5. The intent is to consolidate 273 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:05,520 parcels within the park for improvements 274 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,480 funded by the Reimagine 275 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Reimagine Nature General Obligation 276 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,839 Bond. [clears throat] 277 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,280 And with that, I'll turn it over to 278 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:14,560 Tyler and Amy. 279 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Thanks, Brian. 280 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,839 Good afternoon, Council. A quick intro 281 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,040 before I let Amy kind of run through 282 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:22,560 this. 283 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,560 This is a bit unique for Public Lands to 284 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:26,120 bring these. However, it is becoming a 285 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:28,160 lot more common. I just want to preface 286 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,320 that. Many of the parks in Salt Lake 287 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:34,080 City were created long before many of 288 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,320 our zoning ordinances exist and so a lot 289 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,160 of our parks the majority of our parks 290 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,600 still today are made up of many 291 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,880 different parcels 292 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,440 and alleyways and streets and so how 293 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:48,200 we're managing that is when we do 294 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,560 updates or master capital improvements 295 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,960 we then go through the rezoning process 296 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:54,960 to vacate any alleyways or and then to 297 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,040 consolidate the parcels. This is a 298 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,880 requirement for us to get our building 299 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,360 permits to move these forward. So this 300 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,400 is becoming a more of a frequent thing 301 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,840 and I just wanted to preface that you'll 302 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,320 probably continue to see us as we 303 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,520 continue to invest in capital 304 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,320 improvements 305 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,080 in our parks. So with that I'll turn it 306 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,480 to Amy for a quick summary of this one. 307 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,800 Thank you. Hello Council. 308 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,920 And again here we are to talk about 309 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Jefferson Park. 310 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Go to the next slide. 311 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Site context Jefferson Park 312 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:29,880 is located in D5 313 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,640 and it is a detention basin managed by 314 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:36,480 public utilities and a park managed by 315 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,480 public lands. Next slide. 316 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,280 The purpose for our meeting today is to 317 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,600 consolidate parcels within Jefferson 318 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Park for planned improvements as 319 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,440 indicated. Next concept next slide. 320 00:12:53,080 --> 00:13:00,400 The proposed alley closures are both 321 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:02,160 located entirely within the park. 322 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,880 So you'll see 323 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,839 A is a portion of the east-west 324 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,240 mid-block alley between 200 West and 325 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:12,400 West Temple 326 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:15,360 approximately 100 ft by 15 ft. 327 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:18,160 And B is a north-south alley between 328 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,880 West Temple Ave and West Fremont Ave 329 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:26,040 approximately 275 330 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,040 ft by 16 ft. Next slide. 331 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,554 And here they are 332 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,280 inside the park. 333 00:13:31,554 --> 00:13:35,280 » [laughter] 334 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,280 » Next slide. 335 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:43,400 This is just state code to remind you of 336 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:47,080 when we can close the alley and it is 337 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,040 not necessary for vehicular travel and 338 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,120 it is we would argue necessary to 339 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,880 mitigate injury because of the detention 340 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:57,600 basin function that protects surrounding 341 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,600 homes. Next slide. 342 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,320 The public process that we have followed 343 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:06,880 is noted here 344 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:08,520 and this is a step in the process um 345 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,880 and a final noticing requirement is 346 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:14,080 being sent out as per this. 347 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Next slide. 348 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,560 That's it. 349 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Please close the alley so we can do the 350 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:23,000 park improvements. Council members. 351 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Okay, we just did that in Madison Park 352 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,880 not too long ago. 353 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Um and I my question I guess for the for 354 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,920 the administration is can you bring them 355 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,280 all together to us? 356 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,080 We can get it over with. I had a feeling 357 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,440 that was going to come up Council member 358 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,839 and so we actually have created a full 359 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,839 list that identifies every park in the 360 00:14:40,839 --> 00:14:45,520 city that requires lot consolidation and 361 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:48,480 vacation. 362 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Uh it's a long long list and right now 363 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,600 the capacity does not exist within the 364 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,320 planning team with our team to really 365 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,760 take those all on so we do them on 366 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,760 individual basis. 367 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Uh we're working towards that with some 368 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:02,480 team changes and hopefully can maybe 369 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,560 bring more than one next time. So. 370 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Certainly I you know we're not managing 371 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,160 your time you know you know the work 372 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,600 that you guys do and it's a lot so thank 373 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,560 you for bringing this one. Um thank you 374 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,560 for the update. Yeah, thank you Council. 375 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Okay. 376 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,080 So Council members we're going to take a 377 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,960 break. Uh 378 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,880 We are moving ahead um 379 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,440 uh a little faster and um 380 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,440 so 381 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,400 » We need staff from uh Metro Water and 382 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Public Utilities to arrive. They're on 383 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,880 their way, but not here yet. 384 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,760 So, I'll come back three. 385 00:15:43,865 --> 00:15:45,885 » [music] 386 00:15:55,655 --> 00:15:57,675 [music] 387 00:16:03,516 --> 00:16:05,536 [music] 388 00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:12,741 [music] 389 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:25,186 [music] 390 00:16:32,991 --> 00:16:35,011 [music] 391 00:16:37,576 --> 00:16:39,596 [music] 392 00:16:44,126 --> 00:16:46,146 [music] 393 00:16:54,606 --> 00:16:56,626 [music] 394 00:17:24,081 --> 00:17:26,101 [music] 395 00:17:31,942 --> 00:17:33,962 [music] 396 00:17:39,147 --> 00:17:41,167 [music] 397 00:17:43,732 --> 00:17:45,752 [music] 398 00:17:53,557 --> 00:17:55,577 [music] 399 00:18:04,692 --> 00:18:06,712 [music] 400 00:18:17,137 --> 00:18:19,157 [music] 401 00:18:25,652 --> 00:18:27,672 [music] 402 00:18:32,202 --> 00:18:34,222 [music] 403 00:18:37,442 --> 00:18:39,462 [music] 404 00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:46,012 [music] 405 00:18:52,507 --> 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[music] 529 00:38:34,796 --> 00:38:36,816 » [music] 530 00:38:40,691 --> 00:38:42,711 [music] 531 00:38:45,931 --> 00:38:47,951 [music] 532 00:38:50,516 --> 00:38:52,536 [music] 533 00:38:56,411 --> 00:38:58,432 [music] 534 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,680 » Start the meeting, restart the meeting 535 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,840 with item number 536 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,040 four. 537 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:17,120 Uh, this is the fiscal year 2026-2027 538 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,640 budget for the Metropolitan Water 539 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,640 District. We're going to welcome to you 540 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,280 Austin Kimmel, Council Analyst, uh, Anna 541 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Lee Munsey, 542 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,280 uh, Metro Water General Manager, and 543 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,000 uh, Tom Godfrey, Board Chair for Metro 544 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,437 Water. 545 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,800 Um, Austin. 546 00:39:32,437 --> 00:39:35,360 » [clears throat] 547 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,480 » Thanks, Council members. Uh, the 548 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,120 Metropolitan Water District of Salt Lake 549 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:43,360 and Sandy is here to present its 550 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,760 tentative budget for the 20 2026-2027 551 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,480 fiscal year. 552 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,640 The Council's role in Metro Water's 553 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,240 budget is somewhat unique. The Council 554 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,480 reviews the budget and shares 555 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,880 responsibility with Sandy City Council 556 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,560 to approve and set the tax rate, but it 557 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,600 does not formally adopt the budget. That 558 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,520 responsibility rests with Metro Water's 559 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Board of Trustees. 560 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,720 Metro Water's primary function is to 561 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,960 store, treat, and convey water supplies 562 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,960 to Salt Lake City and Sandy. It is one 563 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,640 of the taxing entities that appears as a 564 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,800 line on property taxes for property 565 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,000 owners. 566 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,120 And this year's total budget is nearly 567 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,080 $123.7 568 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,840 million, which is about a $12 million 569 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,440 increase from last year. 570 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,560 The increase is driven primarily by 571 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,000 costs from other agencies, price 572 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,240 increases from utility providers such as 573 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,920 gas and power, and increased capital 574 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,600 projects budget. 575 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,320 Metro Water proposes a 6% increase to 576 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,280 the rate charged to member cities for 577 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,680 water sales, and a 6% increase to water 578 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,760 rates for non-member entities. 579 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,880 Lastly, Metro Water does not propose a 580 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,320 property tax increase, and the projected 581 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,320 certified tax rate is proposed at 582 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,680 0.00035. 583 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,160 And with that, I will turn it over to 584 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Anna Lee. 585 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,480 Okay. 586 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,680 All right, thank you. 587 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,120 I want to first introduce 588 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,080 Tom Godfrey. He's the chair of the 589 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,640 Metropolitan Water District of Salt Lake 590 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:18,160 and Sandy. He also serves as president 591 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,640 or chair of the Provo River Water Users 592 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,160 Association, and Metro is a majority 593 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,000 shareholder in that association. And 594 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,040 then he also serves 595 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,480 as a member of the Salt Lake City Public 596 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,160 Utilities Advisory Committee. 597 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,560 So, he has a great understanding of 598 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,680 water and how it relates to Salt Lake 599 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,360 City. 600 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:42,440 And I also want to 601 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,760 recognize Laura Briefer and Jason 602 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,120 Brown. Okay. Sorry. They have a couple 603 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,560 Jason. Jason Brown um with Salt Lake 604 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,520 City Public Utilities. Um having their 605 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,080 support here today just shows the great 606 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,600 relationship with that we have with your 607 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,200 utilities. 608 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,040 And recognize our role in providing 609 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,040 water to the city. 610 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Uh next slide. 611 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,560 So, for this presentation, I'll just 612 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,320 provide a quick overview of Metro Water. 613 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,560 And our purpose here today is to present 614 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,160 our fiscal year 2027 tentative budget to 615 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,280 you. And then I'll just summarize our 616 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,560 sources and uses of funds and I'm I'll 617 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,680 be happy to address any questions during 618 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,320 the presentation or of course at the end 619 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,320 as well. Next slide. 620 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,960 So the Metropolitan Water District was 621 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,880 established in 1935. So we did hit 90 622 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,520 years in August. 623 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,360 Our sole purpose is to provide reliable 624 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:46,240 drinking water to the Salt Lake Valley. 625 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,040 In 1990 Sandy City annexed into the 626 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,880 district and so our name changed from 627 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,400 Metropolitan of Salt Lake City to 628 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,720 Metropolitan Water District of Salt Lake 629 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,320 and Sandy. 630 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,320 Next slide. 631 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,400 So we have a board of seven trustees. 632 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,200 Five of those represent Salt Lake City 633 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,000 and two represent Sandy City. Each 634 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,920 trustee serves for a four-year term that 635 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,160 can be re 636 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:17,280 renewed. And as you'll know recently you 637 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,680 appointed two new trustees to our board 638 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,480 and I know 639 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,720 we have an open opening that you're 640 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,520 currently looking to fulfill for our for 641 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:27,280 our board. 642 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,280 Next slide. 643 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:34,040 So Metro's water supply is diverse which 644 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,680 supports a reliable water supply for 645 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,760 Salt Lake City. 646 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,400 The bulk of our water is supplied to the 647 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,000 Provo River project. This water is 648 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,080 stored in Deer Creek Reservoir. 649 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,800 And just in perspective the dam and 650 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,480 reservoir were built as part of the 651 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,320 Provo River project in the 1940s. 652 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,000 Metro's water supply also includes 653 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,640 Little Cottonwood Creek. The 20,000 acre 654 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:01,600 feet is a combination of Salt Lake City 655 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,600 and Sandy City water rights. 656 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,240 The third largest source of water is the 657 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,120 Central Utah Project. So this water is 658 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:14,720 stored in Jordan Reservoir, and Metro is 659 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:17,200 a petitioner for this water. 660 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:19,120 Other water sources for Metro include 661 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,080 Central Utah Project also has a Utah 662 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,240 Lake System water, which is actually 663 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,320 Strawberry Reservoir. 664 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:27,840 Oop, I thought it cut out. Okay. Um, and 665 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,800 then 666 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,320 Salt Lake City um has 3,100 acre feet of 667 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,280 that preferential right for that ULS 668 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,560 water, and they started paying for the 669 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,480 supply in 2021. 670 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,680 And Metro also receives water from the 671 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,800 Ontario Drain Tunnel. 672 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,800 So, a combined total of 108,700 673 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,120 acre feet. However, in a poor snow year, 674 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,360 like we've all experienced, our water 675 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:57,040 supply is notably less than that. 676 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040 Next slide. 677 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,040 So, when you think of water treatment, 678 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,360 there's really three key facilities you 679 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,800 have to have a treatment facility, you 680 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,480 have to have something that conveys the 681 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,800 water, and then there's an end 682 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,360 reservoir. That's how my simple mind 683 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,760 thinks of it. 684 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,760 Uh so, Metro is owner of the Little 685 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,760 Cottonwood Water Treatment Plant that's 686 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,320 located just at the base of Little 687 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,280 Cottonwood Canyon. 688 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,280 Um, it was originally constructed in 689 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,520 1960. 690 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,400 And this plant is the second largest 691 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640 plant treatment plant in the Salt Lake 692 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,960 Valley. 693 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,280 Uh we also own and operate the Point of 694 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,560 the Mountain Water Treatment Plant, 695 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,680 which is located in Draper. This was 696 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,440 commissioned in 2007 697 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,880 as part of the Metro Water Project. 698 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,200 And this plant really runs during high 699 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,600 demands seasons, so usually in the 700 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,440 summer, and it provides redundancy for 701 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,160 our plant. And then we're also 2/7 702 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,840 owners of the Jordan Valley Water 703 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,360 Treatment Plant. 704 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,960 Uh it has a 705 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,480 it's located in Bluffdale. 706 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,480 And they're currently doing a project to 707 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,520 expand the capacity of that plant to 250 708 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,240 million gallons. 709 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,960 And then for a conveyance of the water, 710 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:10,760 we have our Salt Lake Aqueduct, which I 711 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,760 call the kind of the backbone of the 712 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,440 Salt Lake Valley's distribution system. 713 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,640 Um it was it's near over 70 years old. 714 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,000 It um 715 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:24,160 is a 42-in for excuse me, 42-mi 69-in 716 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,440 diameter pipeline that starts at the 717 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,720 base of Deer Creek Dam and brings water 718 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,920 down the canyon along the bench and 719 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:35,280 terminates at Mill in Mill Creek at our 720 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,520 terminal reservoir. 721 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,280 And then we have our Point of the 722 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,440 Mountain Aqueduct. It was also 723 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,040 commissioned in 2007 as part of the 724 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,760 Metro Water Project. And it's a pipeline 725 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,680 that connects our Point of the Mountain 726 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,480 plant with the one in in Cottonwood 727 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,760 Heights. 728 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:54,080 And then we're also 2/7 owners of the 729 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,560 Jordan Aqueduct. And this pipeline um 730 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,720 helps us deliver water to the northwest 731 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,000 quadrant of Salt Lake City at 21st 732 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,760 South. 733 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,040 And then the storage where we store the 734 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,360 finished or what we call treated water, 735 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,720 we have our terminal reservoir. It's 736 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,000 located in Mill Creek. It's a 48 million 737 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,680 gallon reservoir. It was originally 738 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,760 constructed in 1951. 739 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,480 We did rebuild it and it was completed 740 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,000 in 2017 to address current seismic 741 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,920 standards. 742 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,880 And then that reservoir provides 743 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,320 reliable water storage as well for 744 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,640 municipal as well as for fire use. 745 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,080 And then we're also 2/7 owner of the 746 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,160 Jordan Aqueduct Terminal Reservoir. 747 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,040 Um it's a 100 million gallon storage 748 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:41,280 reservoir located just off Bangerter 749 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:44,200 Highway around 5300 South. 750 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,200 Next slide. 751 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,360 Okay. So, now I'm going to review our 752 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,040 sources of funds. 753 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,040 Next slide. 754 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,360 So, this is kind of a little clip from 755 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:03,520 our budget, but we um for this for the 756 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:07,840 2027 budget, we're looking at water 757 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:11,520 sales about 23% of our revenue. 758 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,600 Our property tax is nearly 21%. 759 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,600 We have capital assessments that relate 760 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,760 to capacity improvement projects such as 761 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,040 the Metro water project. That's about 762 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,800 10%. We have miscellaneous revenue. Part 763 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,040 of that in this year's budget includes 764 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,560 Salt Lake City's portion that they're 765 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,360 reimbursing us for the Cottonwood's 766 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,920 connection project. 767 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,320 And then this year we have bond revenues 768 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,520 that we're planning to issue as part of 769 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,800 three big capital projects that I'll be 770 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,320 highlighting here in a minute. Next 771 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,320 slide. 772 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,640 So, as Austin noted, we are proposing a 773 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,800 6% increase to our water rates. We are 774 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:54,040 having our public hearing on 15th. 775 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,720 And these are rates that we forecast to 776 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,880 Salt Lake City and Sandy City in 777 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,440 advance, usually two to three years in 778 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,680 two two to three years in advance so 779 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,480 they can plan on them. So, for Salt Lake 780 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,120 City that um increase is noted here. 781 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,240 It's a little over a million-dollar 782 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,200 increase to their budget 783 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:13,040 for Metro. 784 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,040 Next slide. 785 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,120 Also, as he noted, we are not proposing 786 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,440 an increase to the certified tax rate in 787 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:25,000 this year. You'll recall in fiscal year 788 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:26,800 25, we did reestablish it to 0.00035. 789 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,840 Um we're proposing we've been 790 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,160 maintaining that rate, although the rate 791 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,640 does erode. Um I think currently Salt 792 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:37,120 Lake City is 0.000327. 793 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,120 I just wanted to communicate though we 794 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:42,680 looking at the following year in fiscal 795 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,080 year 28, we are proposing an increase. 796 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,080 At least our budget rate or our planning 797 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,800 shows an increase to the certified tax 798 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,760 rate in order to fund these capital 799 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,760 projects that address aging 800 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,400 infrastructure to repair and replace 801 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,120 them. 802 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120 Next slide. 803 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,480 So, we had in our current budget, we 804 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,520 were anticipating some bonding for the 805 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,600 Cottonwood Connection project. However, 806 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,600 it's really hard to know when things are 807 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,440 going to finish on time. And so, 808 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,960 due to a delay and just the 809 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,480 construction, we did not issue we aren't 810 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,720 planning on issuing any bonds this year. 811 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,360 So, we are anticipating it for next 812 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:27,680 year. Um that will be to complete the 813 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,080 Cottonwood Connection project. 814 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,120 Um also a project called the Little 815 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,880 Cottonwood Conduit Replacement Intake 816 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,760 Modifications project, which is a 817 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,880 pipeline that brings water from Little 818 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,560 Cottonwood Creek into the plant. 819 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,680 And then also for um design of the 820 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,130 Little Cottonwood Water Treatment Plant. 821 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,150 Next slide. 822 00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:47,150 » [snorts] 823 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,840 » Okay. Then we'll go how we uh are using 824 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,680 these funds on the next slides. 825 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,680 Next, please. 826 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,400 So, our total budgeted expenditures are 827 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:06,680 115.2 million. The operation and 828 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,640 maintenance budget totals uh here 48.5 829 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,800 million, and that includes our routine 830 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,240 operations and maintenance, such as our 831 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,720 salary and wages, any interest expenses 832 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:19,520 for our bonds, our costs to the Provo 833 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:22,160 River Water Users Association, employee 834 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,080 benefits, contract services, utilities, 835 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,880 and chemicals. 836 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,280 Um other large ones are like general 837 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:32,080 insurance um and non-routine O&M. 838 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,000 Um this graph here does exclude Salt 839 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,400 Lake City's uh portion that they're 840 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,720 reimbursing for the Cottonwood 841 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,520 Connection project. 842 00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:40,520 Next slide. 843 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,720 This is our fiscal year 2017 tentative 844 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,720 capital improvements project budget. 845 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:52,760 Includes nearly 46 million for these 846 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:54,320 routine non-capacity projects. 847 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,400 The significant portion is for 848 00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,520 completion of the Cottonwoods Connection 849 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,920 pipeline, which is a pipeline that 850 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,280 goes from Fort Union to our plant off of 851 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:09,840 Danish Road. 852 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,760 Um, these These costs also represent um 853 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,120 really represent replacement and repair 854 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,000 of key water infrastructure. 855 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,080 The capital improvement projects also 856 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,360 includes costs from other agencies that 857 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:25,000 total almost 7.6 million. 858 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,000 Next slide. 859 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,720 So, Metro Water, like many agencies in 860 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,400 Salt Lake City included, we have water 861 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:37,840 infrastructure that has reached its 862 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:42,080 design life. We're obviously maintaining 863 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:44,760 it, um, but a hazard mitigation study 864 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,520 identified the Salt Lake Aqueduct, the 865 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,920 raw water Little Cottonwood Conduit, and 866 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,480 the Little Cottonwood Water Treatment 867 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,320 Plant as facilities that should be 868 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,480 repaired, replaced, or rebuilt. Um, all 869 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,360 of these projects will provide seismic 870 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,760 resiliency, thus ensuring the reliable 871 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,320 delivery of clean drinking water to the 872 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,800 residents of this valley. 873 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,960 You can see Salt Lake Aqueduct placed in 874 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,560 service in 1950, 875 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,040 uh, the Little Cottonwood 1931, 876 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,360 and then the Little Cottonwood Water 877 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,200 Treatment Plant 1960, 878 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,160 which were great for that time, but just 879 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,480 with current concrete and seismic 880 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,280 standards, 881 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,840 um, 882 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,640 they would not perform well in the event 883 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,600 of an earthquake or other natural 884 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,280 hazard. 885 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,280 Next slide. 886 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,680 So, as Austin mentioned, our budget does 887 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:39,000 include costs from other agencies. 888 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,160 So, as being a petitioner in the Central 889 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,160 Utah Project, we do we are charged an 890 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,480 O&M as well as a capital cost from 891 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,840 Central Utah. So, the total amount that 892 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,600 we pay to them is about 5.7 million 893 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,160 dollars annually 894 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:56,040 for that 20,000 acre feet of M&I and 895 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,120 then 3,100 acre feet of Utah Lake System 896 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,760 water. 897 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,720 We also have those costs with Jordan 898 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920 Valley Water Conservancy District as 899 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:07,000 we're 900 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:09,840 a 2/7 owner. Their O&M costs 901 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,560 are have decreased a little bit, but 902 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,520 then their capital projects have 903 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,200 increased by 3.8 million. Again, they're 904 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,960 also addressing their seismic resiliency 905 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,760 of their water treatment plant. 906 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:26,480 And then the with the Provo River Water 907 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:29,560 Users Association, so we're 61.9% 908 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,720 the largest of 100% of shares in the 909 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,320 association. So, all of their costs, 910 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:36,720 Metro's carrying a large burden of that. 911 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,040 Their annual cost is about 5 million 912 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,520 dollars. 913 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,320 I'm sure many of you are aware the Deer 914 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,440 Creek intake project is just wrapping 915 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,120 up. They're actually going to have a 916 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,840 ribbon cutting next week for this 917 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,560 project. Um, but that's something that's 918 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,480 very important if you think about our 919 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,040 water system. Deer Creek Reservoir is 920 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,880 critical to delivery of water. 921 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,280 And then when I did this slide, we had 922 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:05,400 an initial allotment of 50%. 923 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:08,720 That has gone up to 69%. 924 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,720 So, we're at 925 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,520 42,711 926 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,240 acre feet that the association is 927 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:19,640 allotted to Metro. And those are water 928 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:22,440 that Salt Lake City and Sandy City use 929 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,800 in their distribution. 930 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,120 That is my final slide. 931 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,160 Go to the next one. Are there any 932 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:32,023 questions from the council members 933 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,640 that Tom would love to answer for you? 934 00:55:32,023 --> 00:55:35,400 » [laughter] 935 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,760 » Council members? 936 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,920 Council member Dunn? 937 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,680 Yeah, thank you, Tom, and thank you 938 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,160 presentation and you know, 939 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,280 water is like probably the number one 940 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,840 topic in the city in the state right now 941 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,440 uh besides uh data centers. 942 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,800 Uh 943 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,560 but the question on the uh the sales and 944 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,320 the reservoirs status right now and the 945 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,160 conservation measures that we we have on 946 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,960 uh 947 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,960 in process or about to begin even more, 948 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600 how does that impact your 949 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,760 uh 950 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,760 water sales or 951 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,520 and your storage capacity and your 952 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,800 revenue 953 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,280 uh going future and it and when you 954 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,960 do your budget, do you assume I know 955 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,720 these are sales to the districts who 956 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,560 then deliver it to the residents, 957 00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,640 uh 958 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:28,120 how's the conservation measures affect 959 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,640 your budget and how do you imp- uh 960 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,040 forecast those conservation measures on 961 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,160 the budget? 962 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,280 Does that make sense? 963 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,600 » Yeah. 964 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,840 So, we we support conservation. 965 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,280 Obviously, the reservoirs, I consider 966 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,800 those like our bank accounts, our 967 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,720 savings accounts. So, any water we don't 968 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,760 use in the current year, that will be 969 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:49,480 made avail- that's something we can 970 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,360 carry on next year. And typically, our 971 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:55,800 droughts last more than 1 year. So, we 972 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:58,320 definitely support conservation efforts 973 00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:01,440 um for our cities. For Metro 974 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:05,160 specifically, how we bill our water is 975 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:07,280 it's a flat rate for the year. And so, 976 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,720 we don't see the fluctuations that the 977 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,960 utilities see as far as 978 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:15,040 higher demand or lower demand. Um but we 979 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,600 want them to use less water because 980 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,760 knowing we're probably going to have 981 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,680 another year of hopefully better than 982 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,480 this year, but the reservoirs are 983 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,800 designed to 984 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,440 provide water for like a 3-year drought. 985 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,480 So, if you go beyond that, then that 986 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,600 really stresses the water supply. 987 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,920 I don't know if that Does that answer 988 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,520 your question, Council member? 989 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,960 » And, but 990 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,520 there when we conserve our water, we're 991 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,920 not buying more water from your agency. 992 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,000 And so, 993 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:47,040 your your revenue is also based on what 994 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,320 we know. Okay, never mind. 995 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,920 We We did 996 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,240 So, they did 997 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,640 » Always needing this education. 998 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:55,200 » A great question because we have had 999 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,240 that We have done that in the past. In 1000 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,120 before 2017, 1001 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,040 we would just bill the cities for the 1002 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:05,080 water that they took from us. 1003 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:08,240 Um there was an analysis done at that 1004 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:10,240 time and looked at is is there a better 1005 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,840 way to manage 1006 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,240 the predictability of water of what 1007 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,960 they're going to use as well as what 1008 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:20,000 we're going to sell to them. And so, 1009 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,360 what we went to was a fixed amount. So, 1010 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,480 we charge the same amount for to Salt 1011 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,200 Lake City and Sandy City um 1012 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,840 regardless of the amount of water that 1013 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,720 they take. 1014 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,760 Okay, that's what the fixed amount is. 1015 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,960 So, thank you very much for that 1016 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,120 clarity. 1017 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,120 I know I was just one person, but 1018 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,280 there's probably a lot of people that 1019 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,360 have that same question. So, thank you 1020 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,560 very That's That's interesting. That's 1021 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,560 uh appreciative on that side of the 1022 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:46,760 house. So, thank you. 1023 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:48,560 Council members, any other questions? 1024 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,800 And your side of the house seems to be 1025 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,320 covered uh then. Uh thank you so much 1026 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,040 for the presentation. 1027 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,320 Um it's a If there is anything else, uh 1028 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,440 this is time. Thank you so much for the 1029 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,720 work. It's a very important. 1030 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:04,720 Uh and I I I really appreciate the 1031 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,640 transparency uh the district uh shows um 1032 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:11,040 with us and the public in general. So, 1033 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:13,320 thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. 1034 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,320 Thank you. 1035 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,320 I would like to uh move on to item 1036 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:31,680 number five, which is fiscal year 2026 1037 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:34,000 2027 for the proposed budget for the 1038 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,520 Department of Public Utilities. 1039 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,440 We're going to welcome at the table 1040 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,520 again Austin Kimmel or, you know, 1041 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,320 re-welcome at the table Council Policy 1042 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,960 Analyst. Thank you for staying there. 1043 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,160 Laura Briere, Director of Public 1044 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,360 Utilities. 1045 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,920 Lisa Tarfelli, 1046 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880 Finance Administrator for Public 1047 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,640 Utilities. 1048 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,280 And I 1049 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,160 We've got Jason Brown here, Deputy 1050 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,200 Director of Public Utilities. 1051 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,960 » And we might have Jesse Stewart coming 1052 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:03,160 by. He's in the middle of some 1053 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:04,240 negotiations, so we'll see. 1054 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,120 Awesome. 1055 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,320 This is your turn. 1056 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,320 Great. 1057 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:13,640 Um just a quick note that Public 1058 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,000 Utilities is here to present its 1059 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,600 proposed budget for the fiscal year 1060 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,160 2026-27 1061 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:25,480 budget. The total proposed utilities 1062 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,480 budget is 427,786,665 1063 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:36,120 dollars. That's about a 44% decrease or 1064 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:39,280 a nearly 337 million dollar decrease 1065 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,520 from the department's amended FY26 1066 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,560 budget. 1067 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,880 The decrease is driven in part by 1068 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,080 reductions to the department's capital 1069 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,520 projects budget and capital outlay 1070 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,560 budget, as well as a decrease in the 1071 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,600 department's anticipated bond and loan 1072 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,560 proceeds compared to the previous fiscal 1073 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,080 year. 1074 01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,560 Public Utilities operates four 1075 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,320 utilities: water, sewer, storm water, 1076 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,880 and street lighting. 1077 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,880 Each operating as separate enterprise 1078 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,800 funds with separate revenue, capital 1079 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,040 programs, and staffing. 1080 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,680 Public Utilities is proposing rate 1081 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,600 changes for all four utilities, 1082 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,280 which are expected to increase customer 1083 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,640 utility bills. 1084 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,120 The These increases are based on recent 1085 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:24,280 rate studies and are needed to address 1086 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,960 aging infrastructure, meet federal and 1087 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,000 state requirements, keep up with 1088 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,200 keep up with inflation, and maintain 1089 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,160 each utilities financial stability. 1090 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,080 Public utilities will cover the proposed 1091 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:39,400 rate changes in today's briefing. 1092 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,880 Customer rate impacts of each utility 1093 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,840 are summarized on page six of the 1094 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,920 council staff report. 1095 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,880 And this year's budget includes an 1096 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,600 adjustment to the sewer rates for 1097 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,520 multi-family properties, which are 1098 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,160 intended to address some of the large 1099 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,040 increases some of those customers 1100 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,000 experienced last fiscal year. 1101 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,680 Lastly, a quick note that public 1102 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,560 utilities revised its proposed street 1103 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,680 lighting rate adjustments, 1104 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,560 which differ from the rates summarized 1105 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,040 in the report. 1106 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,360 An email detailing the revised street 1107 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,960 lighting rates was sent to you on 1108 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:18,000 Friday, May 1st, and it has also been 1109 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,160 added to your packets as an attachment. 1110 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,680 Policy questions for this discussion can 1111 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,960 be found on page two of the council 1112 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,960 staff report, and with that, I will turn 1113 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:30,040 it over to Laura. 1114 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,520 Great. Thank you so much. Um and I also 1115 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,880 wanted to recognize what a great 1116 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,280 partnership 1117 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:39,960 Metro 1118 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,960 and Anna Lee and also for Tom 1119 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,040 is serving serving on our advisory 1120 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,720 committee. Um we may have some other 1121 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,760 public utilities advisory committee 1122 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,320 members coming in. I think they're 1123 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,520 planning on coming a little later, so 1124 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,160 they might miss part of the 1125 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:57,440 presentation. Um but we'll try to 1126 01:02:55,160 --> 01:03:00,280 acknowledge them if they do come in. 1127 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:04,280 Um I wanted to also start out this 1128 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:07,480 presentation by just acknowledging and 1129 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,920 uh the concern and the desire for a 1130 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:13,080 really robust public engagement process 1131 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,400 for our budget, um particularly around 1132 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:19,280 impact of rate increases. 1133 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:22,480 Um we are coordinating very closely with 1134 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,320 uh the mayor's office and council staff 1135 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,640 and the citywide communications team. 1136 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:32,000 Uh, really just integrating a lot of 1137 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:34,360 strategies to uh better connect with our 1138 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,560 uh and engage with our constituents in 1139 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,720 this process. So, I just wanted to 1140 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,640 acknowledge that. I also want to 1141 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:43,680 acknowledge just the teamwork between um 1142 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,320 Andrew Wittenberg's team at the mayor's 1143 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,000 office and Lehua for participating in 1144 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,480 all of these and then of course the 1145 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,520 citywide uh comms team. 1146 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,640 Um, so we're happy to answer any 1147 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:57,560 questions about engagement uh during 1148 01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,760 this presentation as we move along. 1149 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,760 Uh, next slide, please. 1150 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:08,320 Uh, so with respect to public utilities 1151 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:10,680 services, we are uh charged with 1152 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,640 drinking water collection, which means 1153 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,920 diverting water from 1154 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,160 uh the sources of drinking water as well 1155 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,640 as from the sources in which Metro 1156 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,480 manages 1157 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:24,880 um distribution of that water to nearly 1158 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:27,360 400,000 people across Salt Lake County. 1159 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,880 Uh, that includes uh large portions of 1160 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,360 Mill Creek, Holiday, and Cottonwood 1161 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,920 Heights and smaller portions of Midvale, 1162 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,680 Murray, and South Salt Lake. 1163 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,560 Uh, we are also the sanitary sewer 1164 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,960 provider, also sometimes called 1165 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,320 wastewater, 1166 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:46,400 um and we do all of the collection and 1167 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:49,800 treatment for that for the over 210 1168 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,040 or 15,000 residents of Salt Lake City. 1169 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,640 Uh, same as stormwater quality and flood 1170 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:57,200 control and street lighting. 1171 01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:00,040 Um, I've included some pictures of our 1172 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:02,520 team and our work in this presentation 1173 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,520 uh because they're really relevant to 1174 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,400 what our water rates pay for and what 1175 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,200 our budgets pay for 1176 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,760 um every year. Um, 1177 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,400 the photo on this slide is our lead and 1178 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,760 copper team. This is a team that 1179 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,640 designed 1180 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,960 uh our lead service line replacement 1181 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,680 program. 1182 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,000 Um I call them the superstars of our 1183 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,880 utility right now. They've done an 1184 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,880 amazing job uh meeting some rigorous 1185 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,120 regulatory requirements on that and 1186 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,360 serving our community in a really, 1187 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:33,440 really thoughtful way. 1188 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,440 And next slide, please. 1189 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:41,760 I also wanted to just put on a slide the 1190 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,920 significant generational capital 1191 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,480 investments that 1192 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,520 you have supported the last few years 1193 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:52,600 and moving into the next few years. Uh 1194 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:56,040 these investments can span many, many 1195 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:58,200 years. Um but for instance, we are 1196 01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,600 almost complete with the replacement of 1197 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,000 our 65-year-old water reclamation 1198 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,640 facility. 1199 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,480 Uh 1200 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,440 same with our 1201 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,000 uh City Creek Water Treatment Plant, 1202 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:12,320 which was put into service in 1955. 1203 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,800 Um and then our lead service line 1204 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,960 replacement program. And you can see the 1205 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,920 cost for these types of infrastructure 1206 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:23,200 programs, the scale of them is quite 1207 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,040 large. Um we are also working on 1208 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,120 replacement of aged water and sewer 1209 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:30,280 mains. Our residents have seen that. 1210 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:33,040 We've tried our best not to disrupt uh 1211 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,960 them and and roadways. Uh but just 1212 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,960 completed a major sewer main 1213 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:41,160 reconstruction in the West Temple 1214 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:44,360 Ballpark area. Um and uh are just we're 1215 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:47,560 just starting a very large sewer main 1216 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:49,120 reconstruction on Beck Street um from a 1217 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,960 1890s 1218 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,960 era uh sewer line. 1219 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,560 Um 1220 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,000 and then we are constantly working on 1221 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,760 designs for future infrastructure 1222 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,080 rehabilitation and replacement. 1223 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,520 Um 1224 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,960 a couple of notes here. I have an 1225 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:08,880 asterisk on our replacement of the water 1226 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:11,480 reclamation facility and the lead 1227 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:14,680 service line replacement program. 1228 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:17,600 Both of those projects, nearly a billion 1229 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:20,280 dollars worth of work, were projects 1230 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:22,440 that were also required to meet federal 1231 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,720 and state regulations. 1232 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,840 So, the replacement of the water 1233 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,840 reclamation facility was required to 1234 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,840 meet to meet changes to the Clean Water 1235 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,640 Act. Um, we had to remove more nutrients 1236 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,280 from our discharge. 1237 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,160 And then the lead service line 1238 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,600 replacement program is a requirement of 1239 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,200 EPA 1240 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,080 um 1241 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,800 with respect to getting all lead service 1242 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:50,640 lines out of commission around the 1243 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:50,640 country uh by in in the next 10 years. 1244 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,480 I'll also say that these capital 1245 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:58,840 investments and others that aren't 1246 01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,920 listed on this page like um the the 1247 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,480 rehabilitation of Mountain Dell Dam, 1248 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,280 some of our reservoirs, many of our pump 1249 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,120 stations, uh the the new public 1250 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:11,240 utilities campus, 1251 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:14,680 um all of those improve our city's water 1252 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:17,279 resiliency and water security now and in 1253 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:20,319 the future as well. 1254 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,319 And next slide, please. 1255 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,319 We've also worked really hard. Our team 1256 01:08:24,759 --> 01:08:29,480 has worked really hard on finding cost 1257 01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:32,560 savings and efficiencies. 1258 01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:36,120 Um we with some of these large projects, 1259 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:39,640 we have experienced inflation pressures 1260 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:42,279 um and and other types of pressures in 1261 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,880 their construction and design. 1262 01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:47,400 Um but we've calculated that we've saved 1263 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,799 at least $434 million 1264 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:53,120 just on some of the big capital projects 1265 01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:55,080 that that we've worked on. 1266 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,839 Um and this is through value 1267 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,839 engineering. So, as we go through these 1268 01:08:56,839 --> 01:09:01,839 projects, we uh look at ways that we can 1269 01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:04,520 be more efficient and save costs on the 1270 01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:06,839 engineering uh side of it. 1271 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,400 Um the Envision process actually is very 1272 01:09:06,839 --> 01:09:13,520 helpful. The Envision process is like 1273 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:17,080 LEED certification except for 1274 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:19,480 uh specifically for infrastructure. 1275 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,120 Um and we estimate that that has saved 1276 01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:23,440 us $15 million 1277 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,920 on our new water reclamation facility, 1278 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:28,240 which is quite amazing 1279 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,520 um when you think about it. 1280 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:34,440 Um so we've We've done a lot in terms of 1281 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,000 efficiency and cost savings. 1282 01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:36,920 Uh 1283 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,080 about $40.7 1284 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,720 million 1285 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,640 in these cost savings 1286 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:45,960 are in grants from the federal 1287 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:48,560 government. So we went out and applied 1288 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,839 for and implemented some some large 1289 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:55,280 grants. The biggest for the City Creek 1290 01:09:50,839 --> 01:09:58,200 Water Treatment Plant at $36.7 million. 1291 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:02,040 Um and then we also secured low-interest 1292 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:04,560 federal loans, about $387 million worth 1293 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:08,960 of low-interest federal loans uh with 1294 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:11,960 $19 million of that forgivable. Um we 1295 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,360 estimate for one of those loans, the 1296 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,400 loan we received for the water 1297 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,240 reclamation facility under the Water 1298 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,240 Infrastructure Finance and Innovation 1299 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,720 Act uh saves our ratepayers at least 1300 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:25,240 $100 million 1301 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:28,760 in financing costs over time. 1302 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:31,280 Um and you know, with in addition to 1303 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:34,200 financing innovation, uh we have been 1304 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:36,560 working on our contracts with many of 1305 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:39,880 our general contractors and just 1306 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,840 recently realized $1.25 million in 1307 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,480 shared savings on a City Creek Water 1308 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,040 Treatment Plant. Um so a lot of work 1309 01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:48,320 going on. Um 1310 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,520 what I have on this slide really shows 1311 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,040 some savings on large capital projects, 1312 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,600 but even on the smaller capital 1313 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:57,000 projects, we are implementing 1314 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,720 efficiencies and cost savings. 1315 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,920 And then on the operational side that 1316 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,920 ethic also extends 1317 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,680 for instance repurposing positions 1318 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:09,520 instead of hiring new positions 1319 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:14,160 and then using technologies such as GIS 1320 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:14,160 to help make workflows more efficient. 1321 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,320 Next slide, please. 1322 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,680 So before we dive into our budget, I 1323 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:28,680 want to talk a little bit about our rate 1324 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:31,600 drivers and our for well for the budget 1325 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,680 on rates and we mentioned a couple of 1326 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,280 them federal and state regulatory 1327 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:38,880 requirements definitely drive our 1328 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:41,760 budgets and our rates 1329 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:44,240 and to a large degree in our case with 1330 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,560 you know over a billion dollars worth of 1331 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,960 projects that had a federal nexus a 1332 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,320 regulatory nexus to them. 1333 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,160 Aging infrastructure 1334 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:56,360 is sort of embedded in some of those and 1335 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,000 also out into the future. 1336 01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,880 And then debt service costs are 1337 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,800 something that really drives our rates 1338 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,200 this budget 1339 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,360 and we'll talk a little bit more about 1340 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,840 that 1341 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,160 and then of course inflation and then 1342 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,040 drought and water scarcity can affect 1343 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:15,200 what our rates look like as well. 1344 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,400 So for us you know balancing all of 1345 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,400 these priorities is really important. We 1346 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,000 want to continue to provide this high 1347 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,840 level of service 1348 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,240 comply with all of our regulations but 1349 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,960 we also want to make sure our rates are 1350 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,320 affordable. 1351 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,840 I want to just say that we're not alone 1352 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:33,160 in our sector in facing these types of 1353 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:36,080 pressures and in facing the need to 1354 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,480 balance a lot of these priorities 1355 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,800 according to the recently published 1356 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:43,720 value of water campaign 1357 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:47,080 which was a national water campaign in 1358 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:50,360 Utah alone there's 41 billion needed 1359 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:52,520 over the next 20 years to bring water 1360 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,240 and wastewater infrastructure to a state 1361 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:57,640 of good repair. 1362 01:12:54,240 --> 01:13:00,040 Nationally, that number is $3.4 trillion 1363 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:03,040 over the next 20 years. 1364 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:05,640 Most communities have a very large delta 1365 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,400 between what they can afford in terms of 1366 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:10,560 bringing that infrastructure to a state 1367 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:13,760 of good repair and and what's needed. 1368 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:16,160 And so we're really working very hard to 1369 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,360 make sure we're prioritizing what we 1370 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:22,640 need while still balancing uh basic 1371 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,600 water affordability. 1372 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,840 So, to sum that up, there's a need to 1373 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,720 replace aged infrastructure. There's 1374 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,160 more of a need to replace aged 1375 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,640 infrastructure than to replace it. 1376 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,640 Um so we rely on a lot of different uh 1377 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,800 asset management, condition assessment, 1378 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,760 and risk assessment to prioritize our 1379 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:42,560 capital work. Um and we also work hard 1380 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,840 to stretch the life of our aging 1381 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:47,520 infrastructure and find ways to make 1382 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,760 that aging infrastructure more efficient 1383 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:52,880 to rehabilitate such as recently 1384 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:55,080 rehabilitating sewer old sewer lines um 1385 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:58,320 in a new way. 1386 01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,240 Um our debt service to pay bonds and 1387 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,800 loans that we mentioned for some of 1388 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:05,080 these large projects is has is 1389 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,191 increasing this year um and is set to 1390 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,320 increase. 1391 01:14:06,191 --> 01:14:08,840 » [snorts] 1392 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,840 » One of the changes this year um over the 1393 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:14,280 last few years is that we now need to 1394 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:18,120 meet a debt service coverage of two 1395 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:20,440 times our operational income in order to 1396 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,960 ensure that we maintain our good bond 1397 01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:24,200 ratings. And I think that just reflects 1398 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,400 the um 1399 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,840 that the bond rating industry has become 1400 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:31,480 a lot more wise to a lot of the need 1401 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,011 that's out there in the country of 1402 01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:35,280 replacing aging infrastructure. 1403 01:14:35,011 --> 01:14:37,080 » [snorts] 1404 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,440 » Our rates also need to increase so that 1405 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:42,080 we can plan for future regulatory and 1406 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:44,280 infrastructure needs. So, for example, 1407 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,560 um groundwater contamination at one of 1408 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,280 our most important drinking water 1409 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:52,240 resources, we've found low levels of 1410 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:55,160 PFAS forever chemicals, which will 1411 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,626 take quite an investment to clean from 1412 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,880 that well. 1413 01:14:56,626 --> 01:14:59,400 » [snorts] 1414 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,400 » Um 1415 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:04,320 We also, with respect to this year's 1416 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,640 drought and just the long-term mega 1417 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,160 drought, we've also taken into 1418 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,480 consideration 1419 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:13,200 um anticipated reductions in water use 1420 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:16,480 this this year in our operate in our 1421 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:19,440 operational income. 1422 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:19,440 Next slide, please. 1423 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:26,360 Uh so, as Austin mentioned, we have a 1424 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:29,200 44% decrease in our proposed budget this 1425 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:32,400 year as compared to our amended budget 1426 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:35,640 last year. So, that's um almost $428 1427 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:41,200 million this year. We are not proposing 1428 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:43,480 any increases in staff for this year. 1429 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,440 Our budget reduction reflects a nearly 1430 01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:48,280 $350 million 1431 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,800 decrease in capital costs, 1432 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,520 partly because our two largest treatment 1433 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,480 facilities, the water reclamation 1434 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,680 facility and our City Creek Water 1435 01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:58,480 Treatment Plant, are winding down this 1436 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,120 year and are scheduled to be completed 1437 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:01,760 by the end of this calendar year in 1438 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,360 2026, 1439 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:07,720 which is very exciting for us. We 1440 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:11,440 uh started uh construction on the 1441 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:13,360 water reclamation facility in 2019. Uh 1442 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:16,400 many of you've been out to that project 1443 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:18,760 and understand the very large scale of 1444 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,880 that project um and then the City Creek 1445 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,400 Water Treatment Plant, uh we we're 1446 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,040 actually a little bit ahead of schedule 1447 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,840 on that one, which is a good 1448 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,720 That's the silver lining to the winter 1449 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:32,400 we had, actually, because we were able 1450 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:35,080 to be out in and be in construction more 1451 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:38,160 than we thought. So, 1452 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,160 uh next slide, please. 1453 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,920 So, summary of our utility funds 1454 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:47,760 budgets, we've broken down um for fiscal 1455 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,280 year 2027 between each of the four 1456 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,840 utilities 1457 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:54,920 um and between operations, capital, and 1458 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:58,000 debt service. Um so, one thing I want to 1459 01:16:54,920 --> 01:17:00,560 highlight on this chart is just that our 1460 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,840 debt service this year is is a little 1461 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,040 over $63 million. 1462 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,880 Um that's an increase from last year and 1463 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,600 our projections moving forward is that 1464 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:12,920 will increase as different bonds um 1465 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:15,680 start maturing at different times. 1466 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,680 Um 1467 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,680 Yeah, I think we can go to the next 1468 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,960 slide and if there's more questions 1469 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,880 about those that breakdown, we can um 1470 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,840 talk about that. But, we also want to 1471 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:27,880 talk about our projected revenue and 1472 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,840 sources for fiscal year 2027. 1473 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,800 And [snorts] 1474 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,680 uh 1475 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,480 the couple of things that I wanted to 1476 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:37,960 highlight here. 1477 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:42,160 Um first, we've kept our impact fees 1478 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:44,880 very static. We have not really signaled 1479 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:47,120 in our budget that we will be increasing 1480 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,080 our impact fees. Um so, they're very 1481 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,360 conservative. We did just complete an 1482 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,840 impact fee facility plan and an impact 1483 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,080 fee study, which would support increases 1484 01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:00,120 in impact fees, but that will be come 1485 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,680 coming through um a separate process 1486 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:05,000 than our than our budget uh later this 1487 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,720 year. 1488 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:11,120 And Lisa, is there anything else you 1489 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:13,120 wanted to mention about revenues? Okay. 1490 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:16,200 All right. 1491 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,200 Next slide, please. 1492 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,760 And then expenditures for fiscal year 1493 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,120 2027, 1494 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,680 um there are a few things I wanted to 1495 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,560 highlight here. 1496 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,720 Uh you'll see on the line item for 1497 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,880 materials and supplies and charges for 1498 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:33,240 service, those two line items kind of in 1499 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:36,960 the middle of the chart. Those are going 1500 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:39,520 up. And that's for two reasons. Uh 1501 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,160 for charges for services and materials 1502 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,520 and supplies, 1503 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:47,760 uh we anticipate increased costs as we 1504 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:50,840 transition from operating the existing 1505 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:52,640 water reclamation facility to moving to 1506 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,080 operating the new water reclamation 1507 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,200 facility. So, there's going to be a 1508 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,640 point in time where we're staffed, we 1509 01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,960 have uh contractors coming in to staff 1510 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,360 the old facility while we learn the new 1511 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,160 facility. 1512 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,600 Um so, that's one thing, and then the 1513 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:10,160 other is our operations and maintenance 1514 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,760 team um has added more to their uh 1515 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:15,480 materials and supplies budget in order 1516 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:18,000 to be more pro- proactive around asset 1517 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:20,680 management. So, there's more in the 1518 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,680 budget now to to acquire and replace 1519 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:26,080 things like valves that fail and cause 1520 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,920 water leaks um and those types of 1521 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,880 things. And that's a that's also in 1522 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,400 keeping with the fact that rather than 1523 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:35,360 doing a lot replacement right now, we 1524 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:38,680 want we need to step up stretching the 1525 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:41,000 life of some of our infrastructure um 1526 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,800 until we have the resources to replace 1527 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,720 some of it as we prioritize different 1528 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,720 infrastructure. 1529 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:52,200 Um and then again, you'll see that that 1530 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,920 debt service climbs uh by a little under 1531 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:57,320 $7 million this year compared to last 1532 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,320 year. 1533 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,160 Uh next slide, please. 1534 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,720 So, our proposed rate changes. Now, it 1535 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,040 might 1536 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:12,280 it might feel a little counterintuitive. 1537 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:15,320 Our budget's going down by 44%, but we 1538 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:19,200 are proposing rate increases, and the 1539 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:21,000 reasons for that are um largely based on 1540 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,600 the increased debt coverage that we need 1541 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:26,440 to have to maintain our bond ratings. 1542 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,640 Um and then we're also trying to plan 1543 01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:31,160 for the future because we have a lot of 1544 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:33,760 deferred aging infrastructure that we 1545 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:36,680 don't want to have to rely on debt to 1546 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:39,360 replace over time. And so, we want to 1547 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:41,560 start ensuring that we have a much more 1548 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,640 structurally balanced 1549 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,960 utility financial position as we move 1550 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:49,440 forward. 1551 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:51,520 Um, so our new rates to the minimum rate 1552 01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:53,600 increases we need to meet our debt 1553 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:56,800 coverage requirements 1554 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:59,880 for water are 25% and actually these are 1555 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:01,880 revenue increases. The rate increases 1556 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:04,360 are going to look different depending 1557 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:07,840 on how much water you use basically. 1558 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:10,720 Um, and the same as sewer at 40% 1559 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,560 and then storm water at 20%. 1560 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,920 Um, we also have one structural change 1561 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:18,320 we are proposing and Austin spoke of 1562 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,000 this earlier in his introduction. 1563 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,240 Uh, but we want to change the 1564 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,360 multi-family sewer rate structure to a 1565 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:27,040 fixed rate per dwelling unit. Um, that's 1566 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,360 $48.94 1567 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,160 per dwelling unit which is 1568 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,520 a little less than what a 1569 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,440 an average single-family resident would 1570 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,680 typically pay just accounting for the 1571 01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:42,200 smaller size typically of um, 1572 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,041 many of our multi-family 1573 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,480 developments. 1574 01:21:44,041 --> 01:21:47,000 » [clears throat] 1575 01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:50,120 » Uh, this will help both 1576 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,880 provide some certainty every month for 1577 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:56,360 what the rate would be because it's not 1578 01:21:51,880 --> 01:22:00,040 based on a volumetric water use and and 1579 01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:02,480 also will provide for less of a 1580 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,760 increases during the summer time for 1581 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:06,840 those properties that don't separate out 1582 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,560 their outdoor use and indoor use with 1583 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,160 different meters. 1584 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,120 Um, so we hope that that's a good 1585 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:16,000 change. We have talked to 1586 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,920 many interested parties that represent 1587 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,880 multi-family 1588 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:23,800 developments and this seems to be a lot 1589 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,120 more beneficial so far to them and I 1590 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,320 think we're still having that 1591 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:30,040 conversation back and forth. 1592 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,560 For the street you street lighting 1593 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:36,440 utility, I were recommending a 50% 1594 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,920 revenue increase or rate increase. 1595 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:43,840 And that's largely due to the fact that 1596 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:47,520 we're impacted a lot with wire theft and 1597 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:51,440 vandalism to these facilities. 1598 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,160 And we relied more on reserves and debt 1599 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:54,520 in the past and we're going to need to 1600 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,080 start 1601 01:22:54,520 --> 01:23:00,360 making that utility more financially 1602 01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,360 capable in the future. 1603 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:08,000 Um these are photos of our 1604 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,800 watershed and hydrology teams out in the 1605 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,680 field 1606 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,560 picking invasive weeds in the mountains 1607 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,560 and also monitoring our our stream 1608 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,560 flows. 1609 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,560 Next slide, please. 1610 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:26,040 So we have 1611 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:28,240 we have some examples 1612 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,560 there's there may be nobody in the world 1613 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,320 who completely fits the fits these 1614 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:35,920 different profiles that we have in terms 1615 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:38,720 of what monthly water and sewer rate 1616 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,960 increases will look like. Um but we 1617 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:44,640 chose these examples based on a lot of 1618 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:47,120 averages. So for a residential minimum 1619 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:49,080 what water use 1620 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,960 water use and sewer use which would 1621 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:54,720 largely be like a lower an average to 1622 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:57,360 lower than average water user in a 1623 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,720 single family home. 1624 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:03,000 The combined monthly change would be 1625 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:07,160 about $21.63. 1626 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:09,640 Uh for residential low use which is 1627 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:12,800 just a little bit above our average 1628 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:16,480 water use indoors, 1629 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:19,680 that would be around $25.37 1630 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:22,480 in combined water and sewer fees. 1631 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:26,000 Medium use represents 1632 01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:27,800 both indoor and outdoor use and that's a 1633 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,080 $41.08 1634 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:33,520 increase on this example. 1635 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:36,840 And then high use is 1636 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,480 quite a lot of outdoor watering for most 1637 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:43,120 of our single-family residential 1638 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:44,920 customers and that's about $88 per month 1639 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,680 for this example. 1640 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,880 We do have a rate calculator that will 1641 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,320 be live on our website. 1642 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:54,000 That will make it easier for people to 1643 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:56,560 look back on the water that they use and 1644 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,240 their bills and be able to see what 1645 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,200 their new rates would be and maybe even 1646 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:03,160 encourage some additional conservation 1647 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:06,240 as we look forward. 1648 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,240 And next slide, please. 1649 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:12,680 Then we have our monthly stormwater 1650 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:14,320 charges. These reflect a 20% increase to 1651 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,680 stormwater. 1652 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,160 And 1653 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,920 that really goes toward, you know, some 1654 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,760 additional infrastructure work that we 1655 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,880 need for flood control and operational 1656 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,800 work that we 1657 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,743 regulatory requirements. Sorry, I don't 1658 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,763 know what happened there. 1659 01:25:26,743 --> 01:25:28,763 » [laughter] 1660 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,360 » And 1661 01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:35,160 and so we've calculated those for 1662 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:37,440 single-family and duplex 1663 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:39,880 homes for either less than a quarter 1664 01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:43,080 acre or more than a quarter acre. 1665 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:46,200 Triplex and fourplex homes and 1666 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:48,600 commercial and all other parcels. These 1667 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,600 charges are not based on any kind of 1668 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,160 volumetric charge. It's based on the 1669 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:58,000 size of a parcel or what we call an 1670 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:58,000 equivalent residential unit or ERU. 1671 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:03,520 Next slide, please. 1672 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,520 And then our monthly street lighting 1673 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,360 charges, 1674 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:11,560 those that this reflects the 50% 1675 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:14,360 increase. Most of our customers are in 1676 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:16,360 the base lighting group, which would be 1677 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,600 a $2.60 1678 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,560 increase per month. 1679 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:23,760 And then we have two different 1680 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:25,880 residential groupings that have enhanced 1681 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,800 lighting. Enhanced lighting sometimes 1682 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:32,200 means that there's more 1683 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:35,360 uh light poles per block or they look a 1684 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:38,320 lot different and are fancier lights. 1685 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,920 Um and depending on which enhanced 1686 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:43,040 lighting area you're in, there's 1687 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,800 different increases based on the cost. 1688 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,160 And then group group three is our 1689 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,680 commercial district lighting. 1690 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:52,800 So that's downtown and Sugar House 1691 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,800 lighting primarily. 1692 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,560 And I think 1693 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,040 the only other thing I wanted to add, I 1694 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:04,280 think the next slide is my last slide or 1695 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,960 is yes, we're done. The only other thing 1696 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:09,000 I wanted to add 1697 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:11,520 is you know, the rates that we see on 1698 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,680 our water and sewer 1699 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,960 bills, 1700 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,440 those go directly towards a lot of 1701 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,000 really important and critical 1702 01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:20,600 infrastructure 1703 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,160 and operations to meet our regulatory 1704 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,360 obligations. 1705 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:27,000 So everything that's on our bills goes 1706 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:29,520 to things like maintaining the three 1707 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,400 city-owned water treatment plants, 1708 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:34,360 um making sure and you know, paying 1709 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:36,760 Metro for the water resources and the 1710 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:39,760 infrastructure that they're maintaining, 1711 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,680 uh replacing and rehabilitating water 1712 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,480 mains and hydrants, 1713 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,960 our lead service line replacement 1714 01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:48,080 program, 1715 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:51,200 reservoirs and dams, uh sewer treatment, 1716 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,720 sewer lines, emergency response and 1717 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,720 operations. 1718 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,680 Um so there's a lot that we do. A lot of 1719 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,320 our infrastructure and a lot of our 1720 01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,840 operations are out of sight and out of 1721 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,520 mind and so they're not always thought 1722 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:06,520 about until something goes wrong and we 1723 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,560 don't want things to go wrong and so 1724 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:12,440 we're trying to be very proactive in how 1725 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:15,960 we select and prioritize 1726 01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:18,000 um the needed work to do here and we 1727 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,760 really appreciate the support that 1728 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,880 you've provided in the past and 1729 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,120 would love to get your feedback right 1730 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,360 now and address any questions you may 1731 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,680 have. 1732 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,240 Council members. 1733 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,200 Council member Young. 1734 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,320 Yeah, thank you. 1735 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,240 So, 1736 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:40,680 I want to make sure we start off by 1737 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:42,320 recognizing that this is a long-standing 1738 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:45,200 historical 1739 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:49,320 debt that we have been carrying as a 1740 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:52,080 city that is not at the feet of you or 1741 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:56,880 our current administration, but that we 1742 01:28:52,080 --> 01:29:00,240 can look back over years and decades in 1743 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:02,480 terms of the fact that these were needs 1744 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:05,560 that were always kind of pushed off to 1745 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:08,480 the future and that now we sit here 1746 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:11,680 together as a collective group kind of 1747 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:12,720 holding that bag and saying, "What do we 1748 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,240 do?" 1749 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:18,000 Um, because we can't not have clean 1750 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:21,120 water going to our residents across the 1751 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:23,840 city. And so, we need to find a solution 1752 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:27,280 on the way forward. I really want to 1753 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,880 call out and appreciate the 1754 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,600 um 1755 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:34,000 slide that you had that highlighted all 1756 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:36,560 the various grants that you and your 1757 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:40,240 team and the administration have brought 1758 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:42,800 in to be able to defray these costs 1759 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:46,160 related to that historical debt that 1760 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:49,240 we've been carrying because it could be 1761 01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:52,040 worse. And I think it's important to 1762 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:54,760 recognize that as we're talking about it 1763 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,920 that we're we're pulling every lever, 1764 01:29:54,760 --> 01:30:00,160 you're looking at every possible 1765 01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:03,440 opportunity to be able to say, "How do 1766 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:07,320 we come up with the resources necessary 1767 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:10,240 to continuing to deliver the A+ services 1768 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:13,440 that our residents have come to expect 1769 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:15,760 from all the individuals in this space. 1770 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:18,960 With that, I think there's also a 1771 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,680 balance to kind of shifting the 1772 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,520 conversation 1773 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:26,840 to the fact that these are debts that 1774 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:29,880 are not able to be addressed by a single 1775 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,920 budgetary action over a single fiscal 1776 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,720 year. 1777 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:37,400 And I think that that's been one of my 1778 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:41,120 ah-has as part of this process, that 1779 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:43,520 when we've previously been speaking to, 1780 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:46,240 you know, at least my neighbors, 1781 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:49,200 personally, about some of these needs 1782 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:51,240 and underlying infrastructure issues, I 1783 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,360 think there was a hope that kind of each 1784 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,840 year we were taking a step that would 1785 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,720 put us back on track. And we'd be like, 1786 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,240 "Okay, so we have an issue, but we're 1787 01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,160 going to take this step this fiscal 1788 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,760 year, and that's going to help us in the 1789 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,720 long run." 1790 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:09,240 Without necessarily really recognizing 1791 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:12,600 that this is going to be a multi-year 1792 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:15,000 effort, not just by the individuals who 1793 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:17,280 sit in this room today, but looking 1794 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:20,560 ahead to our future about what those 1795 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:23,240 needs are, and also helping to educate 1796 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:26,560 and communicate to our residents 1797 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:29,400 how that historical debt came to be, and 1798 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:33,440 what the future looks like, not just 1799 01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:37,440 this year, but also moving forward. 1800 01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:39,640 It is a steep climb. And I don't look at 1801 01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:41,560 the budget and think to myself, "Oh, you 1802 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,960 know what? We don't need that. We don't 1803 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,440 need that, you know, water reclamation, 1804 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,680 you know, center." Like, I've been in 1805 01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:51,080 the buildings with your team, you know, 1806 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:53,720 to see the '60s infrastructure. 1807 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:56,680 I've had the opportunity to be educated 1808 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:59,880 about what does it look like to leave, 1809 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:03,240 you know, a pipe that has was installed 1810 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:06,320 in in 1950s and hope for the best you 1811 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:09,760 know in terms of you know potentially 1812 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:12,560 leading us as a city to have water 1813 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:15,960 issues not that last a couple of days or 1814 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:17,880 a couple of weeks but into the years of 1815 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,520 what it would take in an emergency 1816 01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:22,360 situation to fix it. 1817 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:25,080 Um 1818 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:27,720 I appreciate that this is an ongoing 1819 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:29,440 dialogue and an ongoing effort that you 1820 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:32,360 along with your team and the 1821 01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:35,400 comprehensive city have been working on. 1822 01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:37,640 I want to reflect that I'm invested in 1823 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:40,640 being able to figure out what that 1824 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:43,800 long-term solution looks like and 1825 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:46,920 appreciate the lens of how are we 1826 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:51,560 communicating this comprehensively to 1827 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:54,880 our city so that they don't expect that 1828 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:57,760 this rate increase is the final rate 1829 01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:00,760 increase when we know we have a longer 1830 01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,520 term situation that we need to address. 1831 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,440 So thank you for being here today and 1832 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,520 again thank you for all of your work to 1833 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:10,280 be able to help address an issue that 1834 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:12,640 you certainly did not create nor did 1835 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:17,120 anyone else in this room but that we're 1836 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:20,200 responsible for in terms of next steps. 1837 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:22,400 Thank you. May I um just I wanted to say 1838 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:24,800 one thing too so that 1839 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:27,960 um people don't come away with a feeling 1840 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:29,480 that the people before us weren't 1841 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:34,440 investing. 1842 01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:35,960 So in the 70s and 80s uh we actually we 1843 01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:38,480 and everyone else in the nation were the 1844 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:41,520 beneficiary of the federal government 1845 01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:43,680 picking up the tab of 50 to 60% 1846 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,800 of a lot of these water infrastructure 1847 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:47,400 needs. 1848 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,960 Um in Utah last year the estimate is 1849 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,680 that the federal government picked up 1850 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,280 3%. 1851 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:56,520 And um 1852 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:59,440 when you know our predecessors were in 1853 01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:02,160 these positions, I think there was 1854 01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:04,240 investment made, but we're also coming 1855 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:06,560 to this infrastructure cliff where the 1856 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,840 investments that were made 1857 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,440 were helpful in keeping the facilities 1858 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,080 running, but, you know, for instance, in 1859 01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,160 our treatment plants, which are very 1860 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,600 expensive, as Anna Lee 1861 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:18,520 talked about with the 1960 Little 1862 01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:20,640 Cottonwood Water Treatment Plant, they 1863 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:24,400 weren't built to seismic standards, yet 1864 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:27,960 most of them are on fault lines. Um the 1865 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:30,920 foundational parts of the structure can 1866 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:33,160 no longer be band-aided. 1867 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:35,160 And we are pushing off, you know, the 1868 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,760 replacement of Big Cottonwood Water 1869 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:39,240 Treatment Plant until after Little 1870 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,680 Cottonwood. That's partly what why we're 1871 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,440 building that Cottonwood Connection 1872 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,600 project so that we can bring that source 1873 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:48,480 of water to Little Cottonwood in the 1874 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:50,840 case of failure. Um we're also putting 1875 01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:54,080 pushing off Parleys Water Treatment 1876 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:56,000 Plant for some time after 2034, but 1877 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,520 we've got to start thinking about how 1878 01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:01,200 we're going to how we're going to afford 1879 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:03,240 that in the future because those those 1880 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:05,320 plants, that infrastructure, is what 1881 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,360 keeps our community running, not just in 1882 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,440 Salt Lake City, but the other 1883 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:10,360 communities that we serve. 1884 01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:11,920 Um so 1885 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,680 unfortunately, we're not in a position 1886 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,840 where the federal government is I mean, 1887 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,480 we were lucky to get some grants, but 1888 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,840 those are very few and far between, and 1889 01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:21,800 that was under the IIJA, 1890 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,800 you know, and bipartisan infrastructure 1891 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,720 law 1892 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:27,320 process. We're not seeing those types of 1893 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:30,880 investments right now, and we may not 1894 01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:32,160 that we can't guarantee that. Um but 1895 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,680 yeah, every local [clears throat] 1896 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:37,480 government and community is now tasked 1897 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,480 with making sure that they can meet the 1898 01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:41,960 needs that they have with the little 1899 01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:43,760 resources they have on in with respect 1900 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,800 to rates and revenue sources. So, I 1901 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:49,320 really appreciate those observations. 1902 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:52,200 Okay. Councilmember Wharton. 1903 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:53,680 Thank you. Um so 1904 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,760 um 1905 01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:58,200 agree with everything that that Council 1906 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:02,600 Member Young said um in terms of thanks 1907 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:03,640 and and that recognizing this isn't 1908 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,680 um 1909 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:08,960 something that one budget or even a 1910 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,560 couple budgets can alleviate. 1911 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,600 Um, 1912 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:15,760 but I think people where I hear from 1913 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:17,760 residents and their frustration is 1914 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,520 uh you you know, you read about maybe 1915 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,240 other communities that haven't raised 1916 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,280 their water rates in 1917 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:25,840 this long and 1918 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:28,920 I don't think anybody n- knowing that 1919 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:30,680 I've spoken to is advocating for that 1920 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:33,440 either [snorts] because I think that 1921 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:35,760 also comes with um 1922 01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:38,720 it's own costs. 1923 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:40,560 Um, but if we could just how would you 1924 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,440 explain 1925 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:46,360 that it's even possible 1926 01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:48,160 to do that in some communities where 1927 01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:51,680 in our 1928 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:53,600 system it's it's really not. Yeah. So, 1929 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,880 so with respect to keeping rates lower 1930 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,280 in some communities and Yeah, or just 1931 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,160 saying you know, we have it priding 1932 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,040 themselves on how they haven't raised 1933 01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:03,600 rates in Yeah. 1934 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:07,840 our many years. I mean, every community 1935 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:10,960 is very different in the way it when and 1936 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:13,360 how it developed first of all. So, 1937 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,320 in Salt Lake City, we are if not the 1938 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,520 oldest water system west of the 1939 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:20,160 Mississippi, we're one of the oldest. 1940 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:22,320 We're celebrating 150 years and I think 1941 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,080 parts of our water system may have been 1942 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,000 developed before that. 1943 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,920 Um, 1944 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,720 and uh and so some communities have 1945 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:33,160 newer infrastructure. 1946 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:35,200 Um, some many communities don't have all 1947 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,480 parts of the system that Salt Lake City 1948 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:39,520 has where we're diverting the water, 1949 01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:42,280 treating the water, and then 1950 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:44,200 distributing it um to our customers. And 1951 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,360 on the waste water side, the collection 1952 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:49,120 system and the treatment system, 1953 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:52,120 um they may get contract water say from 1954 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:54,920 Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District 1955 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,080 which is then delivered to those cities 1956 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,800 and they're just dealing with the 1957 01:37:56,080 --> 01:38:01,320 distribution pipes. 1958 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:04,480 There are also 1959 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:07,600 many communities are supported by water 1960 01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:10,920 districts and sewer districts in which 1961 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:13,800 portion of the revenue that's generated 1962 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,760 is from property tax so the rates might 1963 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,520 look lower cuz they're not reflecting 1964 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,880 what's being paid in those property 1965 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,960 taxes. 1966 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:23,640 So it's very hard to compare. We do try 1967 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:27,120 to compare with other similarly situated 1968 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:30,080 cities and in our in our budget book 1969 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:32,920 towards the end in one of the appendices 1970 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:36,160 we do compare with places like Denver 1971 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:39,360 and Phoenix and Flagstaff and others and 1972 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:43,560 we're all around the same range so we're 1973 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:45,360 not really that far from each other with 1974 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,040 some of those more comparably sized 1975 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,800 cities. 1976 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:52,440 And we do also compare with sewer 1977 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:54,800 with with other cities on sewer but 1978 01:38:52,440 --> 01:38:58,000 again it's a hard comparison because 1979 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,920 many other cities rely on districts to 1980 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,720 provide their treatment and that 1981 01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,680 property tax. 1982 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:06,280 Okay. 1983 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:08,520 Can you talk a little bit about the 1984 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,560 I mean 1985 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,320 obviously I 1986 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,640 being on the council 9 years I've 1987 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:18,800 supported the other increases. 1988 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:20,720 Can you talk about like the costs so I I 1989 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,920 I feel that we're making the right 1990 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,640 decision when we've done those things. 1991 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:27,640 What is the alternative? 1992 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:31,520 If I let's say that 1993 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:33,640 that you have residents that are saying 1994 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,760 you know vote for the alternative. What 1995 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:39,040 does that look like? 1996 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:42,360 The alternative to not raising rates 1997 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:43,680 well this year one of the consequences 1998 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,880 could be 1999 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,960 um 2000 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,160 potentially undermining our high bond 2001 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:51,120 rating. 2002 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:53,760 Um so we have a double A1 Moody's rating 2003 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:56,360 and which is which is a very high rating 2004 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:58,400 and helps us afford lower interest costs 2005 01:39:56,360 --> 01:40:02,560 on the money we do borrow. 2006 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:04,400 Um if that bond rating is is threatened 2007 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,800 or downgraded, that could potentially 2008 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,600 cost more in the long term 2009 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:12,240 um not just for our department, but also 2010 01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:15,400 for other city needs as well. 2011 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:19,200 Um but I think the bigger question there 2012 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:22,200 is, you know, if we continue to defer um 2013 01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:24,560 the needs that we have and we 2014 01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,400 continue to signal that 2015 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,720 um 2016 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:32,440 we don't need to plan for those future 2017 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:33,160 needs. I think that sets itself for 2018 01:40:32,440 --> 01:40:36,160 uh 2019 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:39,200 reducing our resiliency and reducing our 2020 01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:41,600 water security in the long term. Um and 2021 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:44,840 it sets us up for potential 2022 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:46,600 unreliability in what I think, you know, 2023 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:48,720 water and wastewater kind of the 2024 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,680 underpinnings of 2025 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,720 not only our public health and our 2026 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:55,000 environmental health, but our economy. 2027 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:57,360 And we want to make sure that we're 2028 01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:00,800 ahead of it. We're not there yet. If we 2029 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:02,320 as we continue to plan for sound 2030 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:05,320 financial 2031 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,840 health as well as making sure that we're 2032 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,480 addressing what we need to address. 2033 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,600 We're not addressing everything that we 2034 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:13,920 need that we've identified, but we're 2035 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:16,160 addressing the key critical points. 2036 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:19,240 Um you know, then then I think there's 2037 01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:21,920 confidence in the system. Um 2038 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,880 there are examples across the nation of 2039 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,320 and they're 2040 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:28,400 albeit quite extreme that we've heard, 2041 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:31,800 but some examples where 2042 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,960 the the communities were not able to 2043 01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,080 uh 2044 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:38,880 make those investments for a lot of 2045 01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:40,520 different reasons and that has resulted 2046 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,280 in some very 2047 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,800 difficult conditions in those 2048 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:46,000 communities. 2049 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,040 Um, I'm not saying we're anywhere near 2050 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,200 that. 2051 01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:51,600 Um, but we don't want to we want to make 2052 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,800 sure that we're we continue to be 2053 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:56,720 proactive. 2054 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:59,040 Okay, I also hear 2055 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,040 um 2056 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:04,200 I also hear from a lot of constituents 2057 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:06,720 um that 2058 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:09,040 uh one of their biggest concerns is 2059 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:11,320 um Great Salt Lake and you know, what is 2060 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:14,040 the what can the council do 2061 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,880 to help Great Salt Lake and are we doing 2062 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,200 everything that we can? 2063 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,040 Um 2064 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:22,720 how does something like our water rates 2065 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:24,000 um relate to the Great Salt Lake? Do 2066 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,240 those have anything to do with each 2067 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:28,200 other? 2068 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:31,320 Yeah, um that has to do with the design 2069 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:34,000 of our rate structures. So, in Salt Lake 2070 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,000 City, we have a a four block or four 2071 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,760 tiered rate structure 2072 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:43,560 and we send a price signal through those 2073 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:47,120 higher blocks of rates for conservation. 2074 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:50,760 And so, um that's one way in which we 2075 01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:53,400 account for that. Um, and then also with 2076 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:55,120 respect to Great Salt Lake um the 2077 01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:57,720 investments for instance into the water 2078 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:59,080 reclamation facility ensures that the 2079 01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:01,760 quality of the water that we're 2080 01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:03,560 discharging into Great Salt Lake is 2081 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,880 meets all of the Clean Water Act 2082 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:09,000 requirements that it needs to meet. Um, 2083 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:11,200 but it also means that we have 35 2084 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:14,360 million gallons of water on average a 2085 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:17,200 day going to Farmington Bay. 2086 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:19,680 Um, and you know, I think that's really 2087 01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:22,040 important as well. So, there's 2088 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:25,760 definitely a nexus between 2089 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:28,720 water conservation, Great Salt Lake, and 2090 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:32,960 and the rates that we charge. 2091 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:34,880 Okay. And my last question is 2092 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:37,760 um just can you talk a little bit more 2093 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:40,800 about the change to like apartments, 2094 01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:42,880 condos, um that portion of the pre- and 2095 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:45,840 the, you know, um 2096 01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:48,720 culinary water versus um 2097 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,680 um the water that's going to 2098 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,320 landscaping. Mhm. 2099 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,320 Um 2100 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:56,160 I think 2101 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,120 you know, not not 2102 01:43:56,160 --> 01:44:00,800 to I don't mean this as a criticism, but 2103 01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:03,760 like I think we found last year that we 2104 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:05,680 could have communicated that better. Um 2105 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:08,240 and that we've probably learned a lot. I 2106 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,480 know that that and I appreciate the time 2107 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,600 that you have spent and and your team 2108 01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:16,360 has spent with 2109 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:18,640 the residents and um and landlords, 2110 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,760 property owners in my district, 2111 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,080 you know, walking them through the 2112 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,800 process, 2113 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:26,480 um correcting where we have made 2114 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,800 mistakes, um and maybe we weren't 2115 01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:30,000 charging them the right amount or 2116 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,520 something like that, you know, or or 2117 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,920 there were other factors that we weren't 2118 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:37,040 considering. Can you speak to 2119 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,320 So, I think those individuals might feel 2120 01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,840 nervous Right. 2121 01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:43,560 » Um when I talk to them about them there 2122 01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:46,760 being another change in that area. Yeah. 2123 01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:49,200 Um can you you know, can you speak to 2124 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:51,000 that issue and and how would you speak 2125 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:52,480 to some of those constituents that you 2126 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,080 and I have met with 2127 01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:58,120 that were really upset last year um and 2128 01:44:55,080 --> 01:45:00,280 might be nervous this year. 2129 01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,960 With the new a multi-family rate 2130 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:05,720 structure being fixed per dwelling unit, 2131 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:08,080 those multi-family properties are not 2132 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:11,000 going to see the wild swings that they 2133 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:13,600 saw last summer. Um particularly those 2134 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:16,680 properties where the the meter that they 2135 01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:20,360 had was both for indoor use and outdoor 2136 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:23,000 use. Um if they shared a meter, then 2137 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:28,080 their sewer charges were based on their 2138 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:30,360 total use. Um and in some cases that 2139 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:32,040 resulted in a very large summer sewer 2140 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,200 bill that they were not accustomed to 2141 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,160 seeing. 2142 01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:37,760 Um that actually was not a situation we 2143 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:40,240 were aware of during the rate study and 2144 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:42,440 implementation. So we did as you said we 2145 01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:45,720 did learn quite a lot. 2146 01:45:42,440 --> 01:45:48,160 Uh that led to some really 2147 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:50,520 important and and informative meetings 2148 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:53,000 with the trade organizations that 2149 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:56,760 represent multi-family housing. 2150 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:58,200 Um and uh we walked through the new rate 2151 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,040 structure 2152 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,920 with them. We're still waiting to hear 2153 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:04,840 back from them on 2154 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,360 the their calculations of you know what 2155 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,320 what the new rates would look like for 2156 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:10,400 them. 2157 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:12,320 Um but our preliminary calculations do 2158 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:15,920 indicate that it'll be a lot better for 2159 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,840 those many of those multi-family homes. 2160 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,400 Um 2161 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:21,080 we've also worked with uh the commercial 2162 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,280 entities that were on that same sewer 2163 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:25,000 rate structure and had a similar 2164 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,200 situation. We're We're working with 2165 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,960 them. It's not a rate structure change 2166 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,080 but we're working with them to separate 2167 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,920 their 2168 01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,680 outdoor use from their indoor use so 2169 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,000 that we have a better idea of what's 2170 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,400 going on what they're putting on their 2171 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:39,240 landscapes outside and what's going 2172 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:41,560 inside and we can charge them 2173 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:44,240 appropriately for that. Um and then 2174 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:46,680 finally one of the things we all learned 2175 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:49,240 um both the trade association 2176 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,880 representatives that we met with uh and 2177 01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:53,480 some of the residents 2178 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,840 um and some of the commercial properties 2179 01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:56,520 is 2180 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,120 uh there's a great opportunity for 2181 01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,640 conser- outdoor 2182 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:03,440 conservation. 2183 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:05,840 Um and I believe that Stephanie Duer, 2184 01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:07,120 our water conservation manager, 2185 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:09,960 um is actually doing a water 2186 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:12,200 conservation presentation uh with the 2187 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:14,440 rental housing association 2188 01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:16,240 um and and other stakeholders who are 2189 01:47:14,440 --> 01:47:18,160 really interested in this. 2190 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,520 Um so that could also help Great Salt 2191 01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,640 Lake in the long term, [clears throat] 2192 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,400 too. 2193 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,160 Okay. 2194 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:27,040 Thank you. Councilman Carson. 2195 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:29,800 Um I I My comments will be similar to 2196 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:32,560 Council member Young's, but I just want 2197 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:34,800 to, you know, start by saying that I 2198 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:36,320 believe leadership means making hard 2199 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,374 decisions. 2200 01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,600 It means not passing the buck, 2201 01:47:38,374 --> 01:47:41,160 » [snorts] 2202 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:44,120 » And it means managing expectations over 2203 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:46,880 the long term. And 2204 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:50,080 I I I feel confident in 2205 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:52,960 public utilities doing those things 2206 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:55,760 and recognize how 2207 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:57,040 critically important water is to all of 2208 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,720 us 2209 01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:01,400 and the management of this very, very 2210 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:03,160 precious resource that we all depend on 2211 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:05,200 every single day. 2212 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:07,760 I appreciate the thoughtfulness with 2213 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:11,240 which you're approaching these decisions 2214 01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:14,080 and these proposals and the comment that 2215 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:16,560 you shared in regards to the declining 2216 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:19,320 federal investment in 2217 01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:22,120 water infrastructure. 2218 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:23,570 I'm curious are there any ways we can 2219 01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,280 change that 2220 01:48:23,570 --> 01:48:26,840 » [laughter] 2221 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:28,920 » Declining interest in helping us 2222 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,640 carry the burden of our infrastructure? 2223 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,720 And even you mentioned that it seems 2224 01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,960 like some of those um 2225 01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:36,840 grants that we were able to apply to 2226 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:39,080 seem to be few and far between. Is there 2227 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:40,960 anything else we can do, 2228 01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:43,200 um any other grants or other 2229 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,040 opportunities to really balance that 2230 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:47,080 affordability that I think all of us are 2231 01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:49,440 also keeping in mind, too. 2232 01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:52,240 Yeah, I mean I I think this is a real 2233 01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:54,480 generational question because those 2234 01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:57,200 initial investments in the '70s and 2235 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:58,680 '80s, you know, we're we're now 2236 01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,120 moving forward another one or two 2237 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,680 generations from then, and our 2238 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,560 infrastructure is doing the same. 2239 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,640 And we also, especially in the West, 2240 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:09,240 have a lot of 2241 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:12,480 water challenges, scarcity, drought, the 2242 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:15,720 Colorado River challenges. So, I think 2243 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:18,720 there's a great opportunity for 2244 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:21,680 a renewed partnership with federal 2245 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:22,960 investments or federal agencies. So, 2246 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,720 sometimes we talk about unfunded 2247 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,200 mandates. For instance, I showed the 2248 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:29,480 slide where a lead service line 2249 01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:31,840 replacement um regulations is a hundred 2250 01:49:29,480 --> 01:49:33,520 to a hundred and fifty million dollars 2251 01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:37,080 um over the course of the next ten 2252 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:38,640 years. That's a huge amount um of 2253 01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,280 investment and it's an important 2254 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:42,760 investment, but it's from a regulation 2255 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,080 that came with 2256 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:47,400 really no funding. Although we did 2257 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:49,680 secure a low-interest loan for that, 2258 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:53,160 that's not always available. 2259 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:55,960 Um so, there is a lot of work happening 2260 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:58,320 on the national level with uh 2261 01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:00,160 my sector with the water and wastewater 2262 01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:02,360 sector around 2263 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:04,880 uh trying to work with federal agencies 2264 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:06,600 to see what kinds of policy shifts could 2265 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,560 happen on that level if it's even 2266 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:12,720 possible. Um there may be other ways 2267 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:15,360 this this year uh Lisa and and the team 2268 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:19,400 our executive team will be sitting down 2269 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:24,560 uh doing a long-range strategic plan 2270 01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:26,200 around financial health and and um 2271 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:29,320 resiliency 2272 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:31,160 as well as what needs to be done and 2273 01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:34,200 we'll be coming up with some good ideas 2274 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,200 there, too, I hope. 2275 01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:39,880 Commissioner Petro. 2276 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:42,000 Thank you. Um 2277 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:44,600 ditto to everything. Nothing is 2278 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,320 unnecessary. We are not growing as one 2279 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:49,200 of my predecessors used to say, "Unicorn 2280 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:51,720 farms." Everything is necessary. And you 2281 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:55,480 definitely proved your value in District 2282 01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:57,560 1 um this year. We know well that it is 2283 01:50:55,480 --> 01:50:59,920 City Public Utilities that shows up. It 2284 01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:02,360 wasn't county flood, it was you all who 2285 01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:05,960 showed up to make things right when they 2286 01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:07,520 went awry. So, all of that said and I'm 2287 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,600 really deeply grateful, Laura, that you 2288 01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:12,280 like tutored me because I am not 2289 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,080 intuitive about water policy or rates or 2290 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,840 anything. So, I'm so thankful for the 2291 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,680 time that you've spent with me. 2292 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,720 I think um 2293 01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:22,920 part of the crisis here is that you are 2294 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:25,120 doing an amazing job of being a steward 2295 01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,520 and making sure that we have money set 2296 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:29,120 aside for future maintenance. But in 2297 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,560 order for us to do that as a collective 2298 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,800 entity we have to raise rates on people 2299 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,840 who aren't able to do that for 2300 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:37,520 themselves. We're doing it for people 2301 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:39,360 whose car will stop running and they 2302 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:42,520 will not have had the benefit of setting 2303 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:45,200 aside a down payment for a new one. Um 2304 01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:47,640 and that is the nature of the beast. But 2305 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:50,480 it does lend a little bit of gravity and 2306 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:52,760 difference to how we approach this. Um 2307 01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:54,960 one question of clarification under 2308 01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:57,640 street lighting utility here in my staff 2309 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,720 report under revenue 2310 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,440 um 2311 01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:02,280 there's a line there that says general 2312 01:52:00,440 --> 01:52:04,680 fund contributions. 2313 01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:06,160 We are incredibly fantastic about making 2314 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,840 sure that things generated within 2315 01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:10,800 enterprise funds only go back into the 2316 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:13,440 enterprise fund. Can you explain to me 2317 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,360 what the $20,000 that comes in as a 2318 01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:17,000 revenue from the general fund is? 2319 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:19,120 Yeah, that's actually I believe a 2320 01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:22,240 contribution from the general fund to 2321 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:24,800 the enterprise um and that is for the 2322 01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:26,480 private lighting program. Is that right? 2323 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,240 Yeah. Yeah. 2324 01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:31,400 Okay. Yeah. Thank you. That's a good 2325 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:33,400 clarification. My other request would 2326 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:37,080 just be 2327 01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:40,320 any if we can't provide stability and no 2328 01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:42,480 increases to our to our neighbors 2329 01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:44,680 the next best thing is we can provide 2330 01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:47,680 anticipatory guidance so they can 2331 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:49,440 prepare to absorb them. 2332 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:52,640 And I'm struggling because even as much 2333 01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:54,960 in information as I have, admittedly I 2334 01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:57,200 am not bright when it comes to this. I 2335 01:52:54,960 --> 01:53:00,400 need help and hit lots of hand-holding. 2336 01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:03,400 But for instance, my storm water total 2337 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:05,320 already now on my April bill reflects 2338 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:07,240 what a rate increase should be. I don't 2339 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:09,680 understand why that is. When I look at 2340 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:12,080 my cubic feet, it looks like I'm a low 2341 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:14,800 water user, but then my sewer rate 2342 01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:16,200 already reflects a medium user. 2343 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:18,080 You know, these are things that I'm sure 2344 01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,680 there are really, really great reasons 2345 01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:22,080 for I don't need you to explain my water 2346 01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:24,560 bill on the public record, but I would 2347 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:27,400 love the opportunity for us to work to 2348 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:28,800 make sure that our neighbors it if you 2349 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,040 ask us, we're all going to say we're low 2350 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,240 users. 2351 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:34,760 Um, and so 2352 01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:36,800 I I think that sort of education to help 2353 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,320 our neighbors, you know, as I looked as 2354 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,120 I looked here, 2355 01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:42,760 um, the average 2356 01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:45,160 complete bill for a low user in my 2357 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:48,720 district with our enhanced lighting 2358 01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:51,360 should be increasing $29.93 2359 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:53,120 to $33.67 2360 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,080 per month. 2361 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:58,520 That is significant when our gas in our 2362 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,600 vehicles have doubled in the past 2 2363 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:02,120 weeks. 2364 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,040 Um, and so, you know, while people might 2365 01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:07,040 consolidate trips or ride their bike to 2366 01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:08,680 Smith's instead of driving and things, 2367 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,960 it really is feeling increasingly and 2368 01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,760 maybe this is the nature of us living in 2369 01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:14,280 a high desert and we had a false 2370 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:17,680 precedent set for us before 2371 01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:20,240 there isn't very much that you can do 2372 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,680 to conserve on your water bill even when 2373 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:23,640 you are doing the right thing and 2374 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,760 conserving water. 2375 01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:28,000 So, as we move forward, um, you know, 2376 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,520 I'm I'm having people say things to me 2377 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,800 like we feel like we did everything 2378 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:34,560 right, we did the natural plants, we put 2379 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:37,680 in a low waste irrigation system and I'm 2380 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,800 still seeing my water bill go up. Um, 2381 01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,400 I'm having people say that they're 2382 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,200 nervous about being able to grow their 2383 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:44,240 own food this year and to be able to 2384 01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:45,400 afford the water that goes into that in 2385 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,760 a time where people are worried about 2386 01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:49,720 the price of goods being trucked to them 2387 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:51,480 because of fuel increases. So, this is a 2388 01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,920 double whammy. So, as we're moving 2389 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,920 through this, I just would like to work 2390 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:58,160 with you to get to we are asking people, 2391 01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:00,360 like I said, who can't do the kind of 2392 01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:02,440 planning for their own lives that we are 2393 01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:04,160 doing as a city. And that's a really, 2394 01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:06,440 really great thing that we're asking for 2395 01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,960 them to contribute to. And so, if we 2396 01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:11,240 can't provide stability, we have to 2397 01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:13,280 provide predictability. And I 2398 01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:16,240 Thank you for Thank you for being 2399 01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:18,880 possibly the best experts in the region, 2400 01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:20,640 not just the state, and for offering 2401 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,680 this guidance. But as we move through 2402 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:24,320 this, um 2403 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:26,720 our responsibility for communicating 2404 01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,480 clearly and concisely only goes up as 2405 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,480 our rates do. 2406 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:36,440 We agree totally. I agree totally. Um 2407 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:39,440 This is a really hard 2408 01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:42,080 budget and year in a a lot of ways with 2409 01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:44,880 our department and you know, just the 2410 01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:47,760 compounding impacts of 2411 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:50,480 everything going on in that's affecting 2412 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:52,640 what it costs to live with a good 2413 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:56,440 quality of life. And 2414 01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:58,480 um and so, this this is not a budget or 2415 01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,800 a proposal we take lightly at all. And 2416 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,760 we've been talking about you know, ways 2417 01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:05,160 in which we could 2418 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,880 improve our customer assistance 2419 01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,520 uh programs 2420 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:11,000 uh that make them a little less 2421 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:13,480 restrictive than they were in the past. 2422 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,080 Um we're more modeling the 2423 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:17,080 uh 2424 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:19,360 the energy assistance programs that is 2425 01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,040 funded by the federal government. 2426 01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,480 We don't have that same thing for water, 2427 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:25,120 but uh 2428 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:27,160 we're trying to do that. But But we we 2429 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,720 could we could potentially replicate 2430 01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,400 that ourselves. 2431 01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:32,840 Um 2432 01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:35,400 but also, as you said, the education is 2433 01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:37,400 really important. Um how to read the 2434 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,400 water bill. So, 2435 01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:42,160 like the rate calculator is going to be 2436 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:43,840 only so good as how someone might be 2437 01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:47,080 able to read their water bill, right? 2438 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:49,120 And um and so, we'd be happy to work 2439 01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:51,800 with you and your constituents, 2440 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:54,920 everybody's constituents on 2441 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:57,240 any of any of that. And um 2442 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:58,560 maybe we'll talk more about that as 2443 01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,200 well. Thank you. 2444 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,360 » Councilmember Dugan. 2445 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,080 Yeah, thank you. And I thank you for the 2446 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:06,480 discussion and and the comments. I think 2447 01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:08,160 they're all spot on and uh it is a 2448 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,800 you know, the perfect storm here to use 2449 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,000 that old 2450 01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,160 line. 2451 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:15,040 My question is the rates that we have 2452 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:17,680 going on here 2453 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:21,280 there was an assumption on on us saving 2454 01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:23,280 water throughout the year. And what is 2455 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:27,280 what is your projection for the budget 2456 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:28,920 as far as what the city is saving so 2457 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,720 that we keep water in the reservoir and 2458 01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:33,800 that we feed water to the Great Salt 2459 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:35,840 Lake cuz both are necessary during 2460 01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,880 drought season. We We don't want to just 2461 01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,680 have everything go to the Great Salt 2462 01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:42,200 Lake and drain our reservoir and vice 2463 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:43,680 versa. So, how do you uh 2464 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:46,240 what's your projections on the on our 2465 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:49,240 savings rate to the budget because that 2466 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:53,240 that impacts our our rates. 2467 01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:56,320 Um in our in our budgeted revenues in 2468 01:57:53,240 --> 01:58:00,600 the water utility, we made an assumption 2469 01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:01,560 of an 8% decrease over last year. 2470 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,800 Um 2471 01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:06,400 but it's also a larger, if you look 2472 01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,320 it's hard to look at our 2473 01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:10,800 water demand year over year cuz there's 2474 01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:12,840 so much variability. So, we also look at 2475 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:15,360 the average last the average 3 years. 2476 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:18,520 So, we're budgeting lower than we ever 2477 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:21,280 have in our 2478 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:25,240 projected water demand in this in this 2479 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:28,240 budget. Um and that includes a lower 2480 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:31,440 uh anticipating lower water demand than 2481 01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:32,680 our historically lowest years. 2482 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:36,520 Um 2483 01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:39,240 so so that is embedded in in our budget. 2484 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:41,240 Um we are in stage two of our water 2485 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:43,280 shortage contingency plan that has 2486 01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:46,120 mainly voluntary 2487 01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:47,960 uh participation. We'd like people to 2488 01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:49,200 save somewhere around 10 million gallons 2489 01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,240 a day. 2490 01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:52,880 Uh so far this spring, we haven't seen 2491 01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:54,520 that. We're just around where we were 2492 01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:56,320 last year. 2493 01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:58,560 Uh but as we get into the summer, I 2494 01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:03,280 think we'll probably be saving a lot 2495 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:04,960 more water. Um and as we move forward 2496 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:07,520 into this year, we're going to be 2497 01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:10,680 evaluating just what you said, you know, 2498 01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:13,440 storage versus stream flow, what do we 2499 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:15,040 what do we want to hold over in storage 2500 01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:17,040 uh for next year in case we have another 2501 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:19,360 drought year. Um so that's something 2502 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:21,600 we'll be working with Anna Lee and and 2503 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,520 Metro and um 2504 01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:25,200 and our other stakeholders on as well 2505 01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:27,040 this year. 2506 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,200 Thank you. 2507 01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:32,120 Thank you 2508 01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:35,360 uh for for the time. I, you know, 2509 01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:37,960 the public utilities in our city 2510 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:38,640 uh is is just a gem 2511 01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:41,240 uh 2512 01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:43,440 for the work that you have done to bring 2513 01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:47,400 us up to speed and to 2514 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:49,640 uh make us um resilience resilient to 2515 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:51,520 the changing uh environment that we 2516 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:53,480 have. And 2517 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,960 um and you know, it it is actually 2518 01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:57,360 something to celebrate that we have a 2519 01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:59,200 billion dollars of infrastructure in 2520 01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:01,920 motion right now 2521 01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:03,400 um and that we are making it in time, 2522 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:06,040 that we're making it in some of those 2523 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:08,400 ahead of time and that we are building a 2524 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:11,360 system that is going to 2525 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:12,960 uh outlast many of us here, uh which is 2526 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:16,760 how we're supposed to be making those 2527 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:19,360 decisions. So it's it's huge. Um I, you 2528 02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:21,240 know, I have 2529 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:23,880 I'm very proud of the work that you do. 2530 02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:26,360 I always proud of of our public 2531 02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:29,520 utilities department uh and and how you 2532 02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:30,560 see the problem and you tackle it. Um I 2533 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:32,800 am 2534 02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,040 uh certainly have opinions about water 2535 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:35,680 usage 2536 02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:38,360 uh and about how, you know, 2537 02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:41,720 multi-family, you know, um 2538 02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:44,720 you know, uh units use water um and I 2539 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:47,640 wish we could do more to curve the use 2540 02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:51,520 of water and some of those feel like 2541 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:54,120 many of them are not realizing how much 2542 02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:56,880 how much waste waste water that is 2543 02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:58,440 happening in in within our city. 2544 02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:00,040 Um 2545 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,520 But I I would like to focus a little bit 2546 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,360 on a on a question that I don't think 2547 02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:05,400 that we probably have the time to to 2548 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:06,800 chat about, but I would love to have the 2549 02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,040 opportunity to chat a little more 2550 02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:11,360 through 2551 02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:13,120 a couple weeks ahead through the budget 2552 02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,760 discussions and it relates to street 2553 02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:16,240 lighting. 2554 02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:18,560 Um and 2555 02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:21,080 I'm still, you know, hyper focused on 2556 02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,800 the the issue of equity related to to 2557 02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:24,640 street lighting 2558 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,760 and you know, past decisions this 2559 02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,600 council 2560 02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:32,000 or a different iteration of this council 2561 02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:33,840 made to you know, to absorb some debts 2562 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,000 that I felt like it, you know, bring 2563 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,360 back the question of equity 2564 02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,000 representing the West Side and the 2565 02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:41,760 service that we would receive from from 2566 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,320 public lighting 2567 02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:47,520 and I would love to hash out some of 2568 02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:49,800 those numbers and try to get to a maybe 2569 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:51,880 potentially a better outcome. 2570 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:54,840 And I believe that we're doing a great 2571 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:56,320 job right now 2572 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:59,760 as a whole in the city. I just want to 2573 02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:01,800 bring the the service levels maybe 2574 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:04,720 closer to what other neighborhoods are 2575 02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:06,040 seeing. So that's my my hope. 2576 02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:08,400 I don't know if there's anything. Yeah, 2577 02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:11,120 we would like to do that too and our 2578 02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:14,560 street lighting master plan that we 2579 02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:17,640 updated now six years ago 2580 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:20,320 really changed what that lighting looks 2581 02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:22,120 like. So instead of base lighting it 2582 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:23,600 anticipates more pedestrian level 2583 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:26,600 lighting or a greater density of 2584 02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:28,840 lighting in different areas. Part of the 2585 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:31,240 reason why we're looking at our street 2586 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:34,040 lighting rates this year 2587 02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:37,240 so closely and why we have this increase 2588 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:40,120 is so that we can start to be able to 2589 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:43,160 implement that street lighting plan so 2590 02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:45,400 that we can bring greater equity uh to 2591 02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:47,600 different parts of our community. 2592 02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:49,120 Um so we we completely agree with that. 2593 02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:51,320 No, I mean I think that's a valid 2594 02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:54,040 proposition that I would love to to make 2595 02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:55,320 to my neighbors if I'm going to say 2596 02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,240 you're going to have to pay more, but 2597 02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:59,600 this is what you're getting. Uh 2598 02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:02,040 and and I would love to explain to my 2599 02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:04,440 neighbors why this is important. 2600 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:07,160 Um but I hope that we have more time in 2601 02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:08,640 in future weeks if uh I appreciate you 2602 02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:10,520 and your work that the administration 2603 02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,960 does to to bring transparency to this 2604 02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:14,080 budget. So 2605 02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:16,720 um any anything else council members? 2606 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:18,920 Okay, thank you so much for the time. 2607 02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:20,560 Thank you. 2608 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:22,160 » Council members, we 2609 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,920 uh we're uh we have a few board 2610 02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:27,360 appointments and I believe they're both 2611 02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:28,880 online uh and available for us. Both 2612 02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:30,400 appointments 2613 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:33,120 uh are for the Housing Authority of Salt 2614 02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:36,040 Lake City. Uh we have a an item number 2615 02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:38,920 six, Devra Chiquito 2616 02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:40,840 uh will join us uh online. Are you 2617 02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:43,320 there? 2618 02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,320 Devra? 2619 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,760 Yes. 2620 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:50,120 Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. 2621 02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:53,120 Can you tell us um briefly why do you 2622 02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:53,120 want to join this board? 2623 02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:59,240 Yes, uh my career I'm a social worker by 2624 02:03:55,880 --> 02:04:02,720 career and I worked 20 years in the 2625 02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:05,720 Utah State Prison, retired 3 years ago. 2626 02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:08,160 Um and one of the main things 2627 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,960 um I worked with the women 2628 02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:11,400 um 2629 02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:13,520 in a treatment program for substance use 2630 02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:15,160 and we would have them in a residential 2631 02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,320 program. They'd do well, but they'd get 2632 02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:19,560 out, they wouldn't have safe housing, 2633 02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:21,520 they wouldn't have stable housing, they 2634 02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,520 wouldn't have, you know, any 2635 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:25,560 um transitional supports that and they'd 2636 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:27,080 be right back in prison. So I really 2637 02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:31,280 have a 2638 02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:32,680 um an interest in um seeing um 2639 02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:35,480 kind of that transitional support 2640 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:38,360 re-entry stuff for especially women uh 2641 02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:39,920 for people coming out of the the uh 2642 02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:42,080 correctional system as well as 2643 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:44,280 homelessness and and everything that 2644 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:46,560 goes with it. And I really like what you 2645 02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:48,680 what the Housing Board of Salt Lake City 2646 02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:51,480 is doing and what the mayor 2647 02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:54,600 um is doing as well as far as the 2648 02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:57,480 funding and the housing and the you 2649 02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:59,400 know, multi-faceted. It's it's not um 2650 02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:00,680 just, you know, well, 2651 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,080 good luck, you know, it needs to be 2652 02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:04,080 sustainable. It needs to be 2653 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:06,640 multi-faceted. There's mental health, 2654 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:10,240 trauma informed stuff, training, 2655 02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:14,680 um ongoing, you know, um 2656 02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:16,680 issues that um we need to address within 2657 02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:20,520 Salt Lake City, within the state, within 2658 02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:23,360 other communities, um within 2659 02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:24,680 you know, um and get the support and 2660 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:27,600 funding [clears throat] and the 2661 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:29,960 legislature, you know, the uh the state, 2662 02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:32,920 local communities working together, the 2663 02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:35,840 prison, um you know, other entities, the 2664 02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:39,600 community partners, that type of thing. 2665 02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:42,320 Um and so I would I would be honored to 2666 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:43,640 kind of rejoin uh 2667 02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:46,440 the 2668 02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,720 um fight to I guess is fight the wrong 2669 02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:51,120 word, but 2670 02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:51,120 the um 2671 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:56,280 join the team to help, you know, work 2672 02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:57,320 hard and and get things 2673 02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:59,560 um 2674 02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:01,440 going and support the goals that you 2675 02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:03,560 guys have 2676 02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:05,720 been working on so hard. So, it would be 2677 02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:07,040 an honor. Anyway, is that 2678 02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:09,000 Does that help? 2679 02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:12,520 That's fantastic. Thank you. 2680 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:15,240 Okay, thank you. Um I you know, we we 2681 02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:18,400 are really thankful uh for you you know, 2682 02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:19,520 volunteering your time um and uh 2683 02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:21,960 wanting to join this board Council 2684 02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:24,000 member Dugan. I do appreciate you 2685 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:25,560 retiring from this work and then going 2686 02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,320 right back into it and that your 2687 02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:27,880 advocacy for it. 2688 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:29,800 Uh 2689 02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,360 we need people like you 2690 02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,040 uh 2691 02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:34,240 standing on the uh 2692 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:36,040 stool and and and uh 2693 02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,640 really advocating for all this great 2694 02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:41,040 work. So, I appreciate that and thank 2695 02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:41,040 you for stepping up to the plate. 2696 02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:45,240 You're welcome. I've had 3 years to 2697 02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:48,560 go 2698 02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:50,840 travel and do my own thing, so 2699 02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:53,160 I've um 2700 02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:55,560 think I have the energy again 2701 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:58,040 to get back in and work hard, so thank 2702 02:06:55,560 --> 02:07:00,040 you for considering me and for the 2703 02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:03,560 opportunity. I appreciate that. Thank 2704 02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:04,960 you. We uh as you know, the process goes 2705 02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:07,440 your name is going to be put on the 2706 02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:08,520 consent agenda on the formal meeting 2707 02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,640 tonight. 2708 02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,360 You don't need to attend 2709 02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:15,040 to 2710 02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:17,480 to be appointed to this board. The 2711 02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:20,240 administration will reach out to you 2712 02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:22,520 with more information soon after. 2713 02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:24,120 Okay, sounds good. Thank you very much. 2714 02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:28,880 Thank you. 2715 02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:30,680 Now looking into a board appointment for 2716 02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:34,840 the Housing Authority again of Salt Lake 2717 02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:34,840 City. Turner Bitten, are you online? 2718 02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:47,000 Um can someone reach out to Turner and 2719 02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:49,640 see if he will be joining shortly cuz I 2720 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:51,160 think it will inform whether or not we 2721 02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:52,800 reschedule this board appointment. I 2722 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:55,040 think we'll have 2723 02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:56,680 a sort of longer close session. We could 2724 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:59,240 go to 2725 02:07:56,680 --> 02:08:00,920 report of the chair and announcements to 2726 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:03,840 just maybe buy a few minutes. 2727 02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,840 » Yes, let's do that. 2728 02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:09,520 Um Report of the chair and vice chair. 2729 02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,680 » Yes, 2730 02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:14,680 moving on to 2731 02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:16,680 there is no report from ours. Now 2732 02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:18,520 standing items report and announcements 2733 02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:21,040 from the executive director Jen. Yep, 2734 02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:23,160 and this one we just wanted to make sure 2735 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:25,360 that you guys know that agenda packets 2736 02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:26,680 will shift to Fridays during the the 2737 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:27,880 just to give our staff a little extra 2738 02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:29,760 time to 2739 02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:32,040 get that information together and thanks 2740 02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:34,240 in advance to the administration for all 2741 02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:36,040 of the questions we're about to send. 2742 02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:37,960 Um, meetings are also going to adjust 2743 02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:40,200 starting at 1:00 p.m. Um, unless 2744 02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:42,480 otherwise noted, we will adjust if we 2745 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:44,200 can avoid starting at 1:00, but 2746 02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:46,640 we're kind of just holding that space 2747 02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:48,560 while we can. Um, we're also starting 2748 02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:50,200 Thursday meetings maybe a little bit 2749 02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,600 earlier than some of you who've been 2750 02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:53,960 around for a while um are used to. So, 2751 02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:56,960 our first Thursday meeting will actually 2752 02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:59,000 be next week. Um, Thursday the 14th. We 2753 02:08:56,960 --> 02:09:01,120 will um 2754 02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,520 we will um 2755 02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:04,360 be in touch with you guys about the 2756 02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:06,800 timing of those Thursday meetings. It's 2757 02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:09,600 possible that they'll be shorter and so 2758 02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:10,800 hopefully wrapped up either, you know, 2759 02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,280 if they start if they have to start 2760 02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,640 after 5:00 in order for everyone to get 2761 02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,480 here, hopefully they won't go too late. 2762 02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:17,240 Or if we need to be done by 5:00, we'll 2763 02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:18,920 just kind of be in touch 2764 02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:21,280 um about that. 2765 02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:23,880 Uh, the goal there is to get as much 2766 02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:26,840 information kind of into the council's 2767 02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:29,800 um minds so that as you figure through 2768 02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:31,440 what um budgets you're comfortable with 2769 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,280 both with and without a property tax 2770 02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:35,000 increase, you have kind of as much 2771 02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:36,240 information as possible as early as 2772 02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,720 possible. 2773 02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:39,160 Just confirming all of these will have a 2774 02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:40,640 virtual option. 2775 02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,840 All of these will have a virtual option. 2776 02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:45,920 Yes, absolutely. 2777 02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:47,400 Um, and so then 2778 02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:50,760 uh, this list of this is the list of 2779 02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:53,200 dates. So, um feel free to read through 2780 02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:54,920 them and um let staff know if you have 2781 02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:58,280 any questions. 2782 02:09:54,920 --> 02:10:00,440 Um, the CRA budget will be discussed on 2783 02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:03,120 Tuesday, May 19th. So, that's why we're 2784 02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:05,040 having a CRA meeting on that night. 2785 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:07,120 We've kind of reaffirmed with CRA that 2786 02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:09,240 if the council or board has more 2787 02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:13,720 questions, we can add, you know, brief 2788 02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:16,360 CRA meetings as needed um after that. 2789 02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:17,514 Okay, that's it. I don't know if Turner 2790 02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,160 is here yet. 2791 02:10:17,514 --> 02:10:19,320 » [laughter] 2792 02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,600 » Um 2793 02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:23,880 thank you. Um, we we're going to you're 2794 02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:26,520 embarking on a on the budget. We're 2795 02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:28,560 excited to to ask some questions and to 2796 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:30,000 receive some answers and to get to the 2797 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,680 bottom of it. 2798 02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,520 Um 2799 02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:32,920 Uh, 2800 02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:35,680 let 2801 02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:39,080 let's see if Councillor Bitten 2802 02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:39,080 is online. 2803 02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:42,560 No? 2804 02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:44,840 No? 2805 02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:46,920 Okay. We can reschedule his interview 2806 02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:48,440 for another day 2807 02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:50,920 and just will have to remember to pull 2808 02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:52,240 it from the consent agenda. So. Yes, we 2809 02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:54,280 need to pull it from today's consent 2810 02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:56,000 agenda, but we can 2811 02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:58,160 we can 2812 02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:00,720 add it to a different agenda in the 2813 02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:04,960 future. 2814 02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:06,520 Okay, so that brings us to 2815 02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:09,160 potential closed meeting. 2816 02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,160 Council members. 2817 02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:16,120 » [snorts] 2818 02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:20,560 » Mr. Chair, I move that we go into 2819 02:11:16,120 --> 02:11:22,960 closed meeting to discuss 2820 02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:29,240 um 2821 02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:29,240 uh, yeah. Okay, thank you. Um 2822 02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,760 character, professional competence, or 2823 02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:35,320 physical or mental health of an 2824 02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:37,640 individual 2825 02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:40,040 and attorney-client matters. And then 2826 02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:43,880 can we add labor negotiations as well? 2827 02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:46,320 » An update on yes, labor negotiations. 2828 02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:46,320 Second. 2829 02:11:49,240 --> 02:11:53,520 I have a motion by Councillor Warden and 2830 02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:55,280 a and a second by Councillor Duggan. I 2831 02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:57,600 Councillor Member Petro. 2832 02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:59,280 Aye. Councillor Member Warden. Aye. 2833 02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:01,160 Councillor Member Carlson. Aye. 2834 02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:03,960 Councillor Member Young. Aye. Councillor 2835 02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:06,360 Member Duggan. Yes. And I may 2836 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:08,640 Yes, 2837 02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:12,720 that passes unanimously with one 2838 02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:13,440 Councillor missing from the meeting. Six 2839 02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:16,840 uh, 2840 02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,840 passes unanimously. Thank you. 2841 02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:21,520 Yeah, we are adjourned after that and 2842 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:23,040 then we're going to join into a formal 2843 02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:25,480 meeting at 7:00 p.m. 2844 02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:25,480 Thank you. 2845 02:12:40,306 --> 02:12:42,326 » [music and bell] 2846 02:12:46,201 --> 02:12:48,221 [music]