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If you have [clears throat] a handout 84 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,160 for the council, you can notify notify the council staff and who will assist 85 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,760 you. Public hearing 86 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:39,640 uh number B1 is a resolution for the intention to designate the Sugar House 87 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Special Assessment Area. Before we begin taking comments, 88 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:49,120 I will turn the time to Austin Kimmel, council policy analyst, to give us a 89 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,440 short introduction. Um Austin. 90 00:06:50,689 --> 00:06:54,840 » [clears throat] >> Thanks, council. This is a protest 91 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:59,640 hearing for the proposed creation of a new special assessment area 92 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:05,960 or SAA in the Sugar House neighborhood called the Sugar House Business District 93 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:09,840 2027 or SHBD 27. The SAA is in the core commercial area 94 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,800 of Sugar House and would focus on economic promotion. 95 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:17,200 A second assessment would provide special specialty lighting and signage 96 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:23,080 and would be applied to properties with frontage on portions of 21st South, 1100 97 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,360 East, and Highland Drive. This protest hearing gives the public 98 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,520 and property owners the opportunity to provide input on the creation of the 99 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:34,840 assessment area, their inclusion in it, and the proposed services. 100 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,040 It also initiates a 60-day period during which property owners may file written 101 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:43,920 protests. If property owners holding 40% or more 102 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:49,760 of the total valuation of the SAA protest its creation, the SAA cannot be 103 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:53,120 created and the process ends. If the process continues, the council 104 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:57,320 will will appoint a board of equalization to hold three hearings to 105 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,960 consider adjustments to individual assessment amounts. 106 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,280 This The process will conclude with the council's consideration of the 107 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:09,680 assessment ordinance, which would officially establish the SAA, 108 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:14,520 anticipated in early 2027 if all according 109 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,520 If all goes according to plan. Thanks. 110 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:22,520 » Thank you, Austin. Isaac. 111 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Please start with our first public comment. 112 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:33,440 » Our We have, sorry, we have Michael Carter uh, scheduled to speak followed 113 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:39,760 by Melva Sign and then Jeff Goddard. Michael, you may unmute. 114 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. There we go. Can you hear me? 115 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:44,640 » Okay. Yes. Yes. >> Perfect. 116 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Uh, I'm just going to read the letter that was submitted in objection to the 117 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,800 assessment. I object to the proposed assessment 118 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,480 because the property does not receive a meaningful or proportional benefit from 119 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,800 the economic promotion activities for which the assessment is being imposed. 120 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,520 The subject property is a small professional office building occupied by 121 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:07,520 long-term tenants including an insurance agency, a medical staffing agency, and a 122 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,160 dental practice. These tenants primarily service 123 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:14,640 established clients, preferred clients, or patients, insurance networks, and 124 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:17,960 scheduled appointments. They are not retail, restaurants, entertainment, or 125 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,800 foot traffic dependent businesses that would reasonably benefit from festivals, 126 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,440 special events, district branding, holiday lighting, wayfinding, or general 127 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:29,920 promotional campaigns. The property is located on 128 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:33,520 13th East and is not situated on 21st South, Highland Drive, or the other 129 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:37,320 primary commercial quarters targeted by the proposed proposed promotional 130 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,480 signage, lighting improvements. While the property may fall within the 131 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,200 proposed assessment boundaries, it is located 132 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:48,840 its location and use limit any direct economic benefit from the activities 133 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:53,640 funded by funded by the assessment. In addition, the property does not have 134 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:59,840 meaningful visibility from 21st South about from 21st South. A substantial 135 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:03,920 fence on the adjacent CVS property CVS Pharmacy property blocks all line of 136 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:08,240 sight from 21st South in sub and the subject property as shown I have 137 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,880 attached exhibits in the the letter that you will receive later. 138 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Motors and pedestrians traveling along 21st South see a CVS property and fence, 139 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,560 not my property. Because the assessment costs will 140 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,480 ultimately be borne by the property and directly or indirectly by the 141 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,720 professional tenants occupying the property, the proposed assessment would 142 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,680 require an insurance agency, a medical staff, and dental practice to subsidize 143 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,960 programs that they won't benefit from. Uh 144 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,080 we request that we be removed from the special assessment district or have our 145 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,080 assess assessment substantially reduced. Thank you. 146 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:53,360 » Now, we will hear from Melba Sinyard, who is here in person. 147 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:58,040 Uh followed by Jeff Goddard. Melba, you may walk up to speak. 148 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,280 » Thank you. My name is Melba Sinyard. I represent the Utah Restaurant 149 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Association. We've been asked by our members to come and speak with you 150 00:11:02,839 --> 00:11:10,240 tonight. First, we want to thank you for providing a $500,000 151 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:15,000 uh revenue grant to many of the properties impacted. But, we want you to 152 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:20,120 know that recovery is not finished in the Sugar House area. These businesses 153 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:24,880 are still struggling. The cost of and the impact of construction has been lost 154 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,440 revenue, exhausted reserves, meaning restaurants have borrowed all the money 155 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:32,360 they can borrow. They have no place else to go, and many feel that they have 156 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,600 received broken trust from Salt Lake City. They were promised that the two 157 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,680 lanes would continue and it was reduced to one lane, which has cut their 158 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:45,080 visibility in half. The cost of the environment that they're 159 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:51,240 facing as business operators, labor costs are up 41%, wholesale food prices 160 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:55,640 up 34%, rent up 15%, supplies and consumables are up, and utilities and 161 00:11:53,560 --> 00:12:00,360 fees have spiked double digits. These are all problems and whatnot. We feel 162 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:05,240 like that we need to um have support for the Sugar House 163 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,640 area, but we don't feel like and the restaurants don't feel like they should 164 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:13,440 be paying for something and fixing a problem they didn't create. We're asking 165 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:19,000 you to consider direct hardship grants from the general fund, a phase-in or 166 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:23,440 hardship exemption for those businesses in the area who who would apply and 167 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:28,000 would would qualify, and that restaurants have a seat at the table 168 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:32,280 where the decisions are made for whether or not the money is collected, whether 169 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,800 or not the money is spent, and how they are represented. And so, once again, we 170 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,520 thank you for your support of these businesses with your grants, but please 171 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,800 consider what these businesses need now. They're also going to be hit with the 172 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:50,480 12.5% property tax increase that will be 173 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,480 assessed to all businesses. Thank you. 174 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:59,640 » Now, we will hear from Jeff Goddard followed by Scott Clark, both of them in 175 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:03,800 person. >> Hi. Thanks. I agree with the last 176 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,200 speaker. Um I'm a business owner. Um Guthrie Bicycle in Sugar House, kind of 177 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:12,920 right on the corner across from where the Snow Groves property used to be. And 178 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:17,160 uh with the construction along 21st, it's just hurt our business quite a bit, 179 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,880 you know, like we were down the last 2 years 180 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,240 a significant amount, and the business offered that $3,000 grant per year, 181 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:29,400 which was pretty much nothing. It didn't help us out with the lost revenue. Um 182 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,720 And I feel like so many customers have just been driven away from that area 183 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:36,640 because of that construction for so long. 184 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:41,960 The homeless problems, and I feel like this lighting tax is due to a lot of 185 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:45,600 that copper piping that was stolen and removed. 186 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,680 And it's hard to see that, you know, this this assessment go toward the 187 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:52,960 existing businesses as after we've seen so many businesses 188 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,680 go out of business. What businesses remain? I feel like it's just going to 189 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:01,400 hurt us even more and make it more difficult for businesses to stay open 190 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,920 and new businesses want to come in to that area. It is a great area, but with 191 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:10,240 what's happening lately, it's it's hard for me to see, you know, 192 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,520 have a desire to continue being there in the long term. 193 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,360 It's nice to have the construction over with. 194 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:20,560 For me, I feel like what good is an event going to do for my 195 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:24,280 business? You know, I don't have confidence that will really do anything. 196 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:27,560 I feel like if it was something about notifying the public in the area that 197 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,800 the construction is over with, come back to Sugar House, you know, I'm all for 198 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,560 that. But I don't see this exorbitant amount of fees to the 199 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:41,480 existing businesses really is going to really going to help us stay open. 200 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:41,480 That's all I have. 201 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,680 » Now we will hear from Scott Clark, who is also there in person. 202 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,400 » Thanks for your time this evening, council members. 203 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:02,120 My name is Scott Clark. I've owned a small business in Sugar House for 43 204 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:08,600 years. The building entity is SCSE Leasing. We 205 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:12,960 operate as Clark Executive Detail. We clean cars, 206 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,200 boats, motor homes, and we do storage as well. 207 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:20,360 » [clears throat and cough] >> I might receive this assessment, 208 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:25,280 and that was basically on top of my $20,000 209 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:31,040 per year property tax. Um I feel like uh the construction that 210 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:35,560 I've lived through for the last 25 30 years 211 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:39,880 uh has had a very negative impact upon my business. 212 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Uh there's proposal to shut down Sugar Mount right next to Sugar House 213 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Veterinarian for a period of at least 2 months to come 214 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:54,640 to have the to perpetuate the S-line it up to 215 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,360 the Sugar House Center, which is I believe about a quarter mile. 216 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Uh that would also have a very negative impact upon my business. Um there's also 217 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:10,040 been 80% of our parking on McClelland taken away by the city 218 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:15,440 through little pop-outs, little build-outs for like little gardens. 219 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,720 That's been a very negative impact upon my business for our customer parking. 220 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:23,880 We've had a lot of customers complain about there's no parking, sorry, I'm not 221 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:29,920 coming down. So that's very negatively impacted my 222 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:36,120 business. It's very unconstitutional to 223 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:41,240 do a a a take upon the community members in Sugar House up and 224 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:45,080 above the property tax we're already paying. 225 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:49,520 Um you know, it's just been a negative impact upon me through all the 226 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:54,240 construction that's happened all through Sugar House over the years. 227 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:58,200 So I'd ask the council to reconsider this assessment and give a full 228 00:16:56,839 --> 00:17:00,480 abatement to 229 00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:04,400 Thank you. Thank you. 230 00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:11,560 » We have nobody else signed up to speak on this item. 231 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,760 » Thank you all of those that commented. >> Is it too late for me to speak? 232 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:20,000 » It >> I didn't sign up. 233 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:24,120 » I I believe that that you needed to sign up. Um but you 234 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,120 um 235 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:29,520 I could I could get him. Okay. Yes, please come come into 236 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:32,040 You have to come in and you have 2 minutes. 237 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:41,880 » My name is My name is Bob Plumb and I own some properties on 2100 South. 238 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:46,800 So, I have four properties that would get this assessment. And like 239 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,440 Sky was saying about the what we've been through with the 240 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:55,480 construction and unfortunately, I feel with the 241 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:59,720 construction with the street design and what the final outcome is, it's 242 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:03,120 actually discouraging people from coming into Sugar House instead of encouraging 243 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:08,720 them. So, I don't know how you can 244 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,960 advertise that out. It is what it is at this point. 245 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:16,320 And people are avoiding Sugar House because of the changes. 246 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,440 So, to take I have one of my properties that I don't know how much money I lost 247 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:23,320 it. The building was empty for a year and a half during the construction 248 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:29,920 because I couldn't get a tenant. Then I had to do milk new build out. And that's 249 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:34,160 expensive. So, to add and then to add on top of what these property taxes have 250 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:38,680 done in the last six or seven years, some of these properties have gone up 251 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:43,920 three times what they were. So, to put this cost 252 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:48,120 on I feel like as a landlord, I'm going to be responsible for the cost. I don't 253 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,680 believe I can pass it on to my tenants. And one of my tenants is Chipotle and 254 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:58,280 when I talked to one of the people from their offices, 255 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:02,400 their business is down 50%. And that's after the construction is 256 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,960 finished. So, I don't believe what you're 257 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,600 proposing to do is going to you're going to be able to 258 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:15,040 fix the problem you created. I know it's not 259 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,360 you personally, it's the designers, the engineers, everybody. 260 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,120 And same thing with the parking. I have a 261 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:27,320 building now that I can't pick up or drop off anything because they took the 262 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,760 parking away in front of the building. They put a median in the road. You can't 263 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,720 turn left to straighten out before you go to 264 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:39,800 the buildings. So, now any kind of bigger vehicle can't go between the 265 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:42,280 buildings anymore. So, I can't >> Thank you. 266 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Thank you. Thank you. The time is You can send us 267 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:50,960 the the rest the rest of the comment because it's a public hearing and until 268 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,640 like we close the public hearing and I can I can allow, 269 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,960 you know, people to add their their their thoughts. 270 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,600 This is only applicable to public hearing items. 271 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,200 Um Okay. 272 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,640 Um I think I need a motion. >> Mr. Chair, I move that the council close 273 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,000 the public protest hearing. >> Second. 274 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,280 » I have a motion by council member Young and a 275 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,080 second by council member Dugan. Is there any discussion? 276 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:24,960 » Yes, if I can >> make a comment. So, I appreciate the 277 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:30,040 businesses that have come out tonight um to be able to share your voice and be a 278 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:34,240 part of this process. And process is the word that I'm going to I'm going to 279 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:39,760 focus on in terms of some of the comments. So, tonight at the closure of 280 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:46,600 the public comment period, we are not voting on a final assessment of that 281 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:52,360 tax. What happens next is that it moves to the community to be able to then vote 282 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:57,520 on whether or not this is something that is chosen. 283 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:04,120 The proposal itself was not initiated by any individual up here. It was initiated 284 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:08,800 by um the Sugar House community um in co-sponsorship between the chamber and 285 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:12,640 the community council. I am more than happy to help connect you with those 286 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:16,560 individuals to be able to voice the concerns that you've brought here 287 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:21,880 tonight as well, and to use that to be able to help inform the conversation. 288 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:25,560 When it comes to some of the services that that you've spoken about and some 289 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:30,840 of the needs that we've heard from other businesses, there has been a call 290 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:35,960 related to wanting to see services that we see similar to downtown 291 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:40,680 in terms of being able to have some of the public safety ambassadors who are 292 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:46,280 there providing, you know, more engagement on the street, more real-time 293 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:51,520 support related to some of the security issues that we, you know, are are aware 294 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:55,240 of and that are working on as well. And then as well related to the signage and 295 00:21:53,520 --> 00:22:00,920 the event space, it it again is really designed not to 296 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:06,240 replace anything you already have, but to improve upon those efforts to really 297 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:11,640 mimic some of the additional services that those businesses feel could be 298 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:17,440 valuable. Ultimately, this is a decision that is made by those who would be 299 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:22,440 impacted. So, it's it's not a decision that is made exclusively, you know, up 300 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:27,800 here by the council members, but it is a vote by the property owners who would be 301 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:32,760 within this space. And as kind of mentioned before, we do have a process 302 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:38,240 by which businesses can come and be a part of kind of what that 303 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:44,440 assessment looks like in terms of reflecting challenges within that space. 304 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:49,240 So, I I do want the opportunity to be able to connect you with some of the 305 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:54,400 individuals who are also sponsoring this and moving it forward. And again, it 306 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:58,520 moving forward is part of a process, it is not an outcome, and I just wanted to 307 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:03,320 be clear about that is not what's happening tonight. 308 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,080 » Thank you for that clarification Council member Young. You made the 309 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,680 motion and Council member Dugan made the second. I'm going to call the question. 310 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,560 All of those in favor say I. >> I. 311 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:21,000 » Any opposed? Any abstentions? This motion carries unanimously. We're going 312 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:25,200 to item B2 which is a resolution for the waiver of proximity for Silver Side Deli 313 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:31,400 at 21 22 South Highland Drive. We're going to 314 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,560 begin taking comments, but before that Austin Kimmel, our Council Policy 315 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Analyst, is going to give us a short introduction. Austin. 316 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:42,920 » Thanks, Council members. This is a public hearing for a proposed 317 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:47,840 alcohol proximity waiver for Silver Side Deli, a restaurant at 318 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:53,800 21 22 South Highland Drive in District 7, also in Sugar House. 319 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:57,240 As of May 2026, state code requires cities to approve an alcohol waiver of 320 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:02,360 proximity before the Department of Alcohol 321 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Beverage Services, or DABS, can issue a a retail license to a business near a 322 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,840 community location, such as a public park, playground, or library. 323 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,840 This business would be across the street from the Sprague Library Branch in 324 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,760 District 7 on Highland Drive. State code also requires that the 325 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:22,720 Council may take action on this item 30 days after the public hearing 326 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:28,680 and a vote is tentatively tentatively scheduled for September 22nd. Thanks. 327 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:33,600 » Thank you, Austin. Isaac, can you start with our first public comment? 328 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,720 » We do not have anybody signed up for this item. 329 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:41,360 » Mr. Chair, I move that the Council close the public hearing and defer action to a 330 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,480 future Council meeting. >> Second. 331 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,760 » I have a motion by Council member Young and second by Council member Carlson. 332 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,440 Any discussion? I will say just I'm excited that we have 333 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:58,920 this opportunity now. I said it last time. I'm also thankful that the city is 334 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:03,240 going beyond what is required by the law to inform the neighbors about this that 335 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:09,920 we can allow businesses to serve alcohol that makes sense. So, I'm 336 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:13,640 I'm thankful for this tool that we have. The motion was was by Council member 337 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,680 Young, second by Carlson. I'm going to call the question. All of those in favor 338 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 say I. >> I. 339 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:23,440 » I. Any opposed or abstentions? This motion 340 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:28,400 carries unanimously. We're moving on to item B3, which is an ordinance 341 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,440 for the maximum daily water use text amendments. 342 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,840 We're going to welcome Austin Kimble, who's 343 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:38,280 popular today, Council Policy Analyst, to give us a short introduction. Austin. 344 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:43,160 » [clears throat] >> Thank you. This is a public hearing for 345 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:48,760 a proposal to amend Salt Lake City code title 21A to limit daily water use for 346 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,880 new non-residential land uses with some exceptions. 347 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:57,120 The proposed text amendment would cap maximum daily water use for new 348 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:01,720 non-residential properties at 200,000 gallons per day for these properties. 349 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:08,520 The proposal follows a temporary land use regulation or TLUR that City Council 350 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:12,640 adopted on March 24th of 2026 for the same purpose. 351 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:18,280 It aims to make that TLUR permanent by adopting the ordinance since the TLUR is 352 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,600 valid for only 180 days, which would expire on September 353 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:27,160 20th of this year. During the July 21st briefing, the 354 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Council requested that a definition of social services be included in the 355 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,680 proposed zoning code. The Attorney's Office provided updated 356 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,200 ordinance language including a definition, which if the Council 357 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,160 supports will be included in the final ordinance. 358 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:46,000 That definition can be found at the top of the attached staff report. Thanks. 359 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,840 » Thank you, Austin. Isaac, can you 360 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:54,400 start with our first public comment? >> Yes. 361 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Anthony Washburn is here to speak in person. 362 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,720 » Hi, my name is Anthony Washburn, resident here of Salt Lake City. In July 363 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:11,320 21st meeting, when the when the city was proposing this to you guys, something 364 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:16,280 that struck me was that most of the businesses already use under 365 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:20,640 200,000 gallons a day. And with the drought that we're in, 366 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:24,680 things like that, I would just like to maybe consider dropping that cap to 150 367 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,920 or possibly even 100, because if businesses are already using under the 368 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:32,880 200,000 gallons per day cap, capping it to 100 369 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:37,520 isn't really encouraging anybody to use less water. And I think that we should 370 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:41,880 as a city try to encourage people to to use less water. So, thank you. 371 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,960 » We have nobody else registered to speak to this item. 372 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,520 » Thank you, Isaac. Um 373 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,240 I'm going to need a motion. >> Mr. Chairman, I move the council close 374 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:03,120 the public hearing and defer action to a future council meeting. 375 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,120 » Second. 376 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,680 » Motion by Council member Dugan, seconded by Council member Wharton. Any 377 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,160 discussion? Can I call the question? All those in 378 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440 favor say I. >> I. 379 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,960 » I. >> Any opposed? 380 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:23,640 This motion carries unanimously. I'm going to be moving to item B4, which 381 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,120 is the or an ordinance for the Northwest Community Plan. 382 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,000 Um I'm going to welcome Michael Saunders, 383 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,560 council policy analyst, to give us a short introduction. 384 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,360 » Thank you, council. So, the administration has proposed an 385 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,360 update to community plan for the Northwest community area. 386 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:47,720 This plan will replace the 1992 Northwest Master Plan, the 2010 North 387 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Temple Boulevard Plan, and the 2001 Rose Park small area plan. 388 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,800 During the February 25th, 2026 Planning Commission meeting, the Commission 389 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,800 unanimously forwarded a positive recommendation for the plan to the 390 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:04,800 Council. The Council was briefed on this item 391 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:08,160 during the July 21st, 2026 work session. During that briefing, the Council 392 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:12,040 flagged several requested changes. Planning has addressed those requests, 393 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,960 which were included in an updated draft of the plan in the packet. The plan 394 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,960 division has also provided a summary of the changes, which was included as 395 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,920 attachment one in the staff report. Thanks. 396 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:29,400 » Thank you, Michael. Isaac, can you begin with our first 397 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:33,280 public comment on this item? >> Yes. Uh and 398 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,560 first up, we have Anthony Washburn, followed by Tony Diaz, and then Cindy 399 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Cromer. Anthony, you may walk up to speak. 400 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,120 » Sorry, it's me again. My name is Anthony Washburn, and I want 401 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,000 to thank the city for developing the Northwest community plan, and thank the 402 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,320 City Council for giving me the opportunity to give some feedback. 403 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,360 I'm speaking as a long-time Westside resident, business owner, and community 404 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,000 advocate. I support growth and affordable housing, 405 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,440 but want development to happen in a way that strengthens, not destabilizes, 406 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,520 existing Westside neighborhoods. The city should consider stronger 407 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,760 incentives for developers who provide three-plus bedroom, family-oriented, and 408 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:14,000 workforce housing, including both affordable and mixed-income options. 409 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,240 Affordable housing should be distributed throughout the greater Salt Lake City 410 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:21,440 area, rather than concentrated in one neighborhood. 411 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,560 The city should evaluate what happens when multiple affordable housing 412 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,680 developments, mental health, and treatment facilities are concentrated in 413 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:32,400 just a few blocks. And where appropriate, developers should 414 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,680 be required to provide strong property management, security, and ongoing 415 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,200 coordination with the city and surrounding communities. 416 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,840 I ask the city to take a closer look at the impact of affordable housing 417 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,880 concentration, public safety concerns, and transportation barriers. We can 418 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,840 support affordable housing while creating more family and workforce 419 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:55,360 housing, dispersing affordable housing throughout the city, improving 420 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,280 neighborhood conditions, and making sure new development strengthens the Westside 421 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:04,440 rather than creating additional problems. Thank you. 422 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:09,600 And I did have a handout. Cuz that's only half of what I was going 423 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600 » Staff will get it from you. 424 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Next, we will hear by Tony Diaz, followed by Cindy Cromer, and then 425 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Adriana Caras. They are all here in person. 426 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:28,400 » Hi, I'm Tony Diaz. Uh I am the chair of the Business Committee on the Fair Park 427 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Community Council. Um I'm encouraged to see the start that the Northwest 428 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Community Plan puts into place. Small businesses are the bedrock of the 429 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Westside neighborhoods. Um they're not just buildings that you pass by when 430 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,160 you're driving through the neighborhood. They're the places that 431 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:52,040 that employ us. They are our neighbors. They're the source of community pride in 432 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,440 the Westside. Um 433 00:31:53,680 --> 00:32:01,360 when these businesses thrive, they reinvest into the neighborhood and help 434 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:05,640 provide economic stimulus as well as job opportunities. Starting and running a 435 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,800 small business has never been an easy venture, um 436 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,120 but the conditions in the Westside are harder and harder as time goes on. 437 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Rising leasing rates, regulatory hurdles, economic uncertainty, and the 438 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:23,400 inability to safely walk parts of our neighborhood make 439 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:26,720 um uh create a great deal of pressure for entrepreneurs and existing 440 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,200 businesses. In order to combat these, we need a plan 441 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:36,000 that actively prioritizes what the Westside really needs. And what we need 442 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:41,960 is a welcoming environment where small businesses can get their start and grow. 443 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:46,680 Um in regards to the community plan, uh the Fairpark Community Council uh 444 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:52,120 has a few points that we would like to advise. Uh first, actively partner with 445 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:56,840 the community councils on the west side, business owners, and their employees to 446 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:01,800 directly learn the full scope of their needs. Um this will inform how to make 447 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:05,680 real long-lasting impact. Secondly, enhance through public safety and 448 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,280 walkability along our business corridors. If you don't feel safe 449 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,120 walking down a street, you're certainly not going to shop there. 450 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:18,080 And last, through policy, encourage developers who build ground-floor 451 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:22,960 commercial spaces to build them in a usable, desirable, and move-in-ready way 452 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,840 for businesses that would want to move to this neighborhood. 453 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:36,880 » Next, we will hear from Ann Cindy Cromer, followed by Adriana Caras, and 454 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:41,040 then Dorothy Owen. Cindy, you may walk up to speak. 455 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:44,520 » Um in October of 2022, I happened to be at the Planning Commission for the first 456 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,080 hearing on the Northpoint Small Area Plan. 457 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,200 I have worked on many of the city's small area plans. The one for Northpoint 458 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:56,000 didn't check any of the boxes I associate with successful plans. 459 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,760 Now, almost 4 years later, it appears that I was right. The tools proposed in 460 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:06,200 the small area plan have not been adopted. The land use proposals are 461 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,919 environmental nightmares. And now, what would be the final insult, possibly, the 462 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,600 Northpoint area has been deleted from the larger Northwest Community Plan. 463 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Other small area plans have been incorporated into the larger plans by 464 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:25,560 ordinance. Not so in this case. It is essential in pursuing transfer of 465 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,560 development rights to identify receiving areas. And transfer of development 466 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,760 rights are most effectively implemented when the receiving area is nearby. 467 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,639 I believe that the disconnect between the North Point and Northwest plans is 468 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:44,840 an obstacle to the use of TDRs and I'm saying this more than 16 years 469 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:49,360 after I first brought TDRs to the council's attention. 470 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:49,360 Thank you. 471 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:59,280 » Next we will hear from Adriana Caras followed by Dorothy Owen and then Nancy 472 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,640 Philip. Adriana 473 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,320 Adriana you may now speak. 474 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:09,000 » Hi, thanks for having me. I'm the owner of 824 West 200 South which is next to 475 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,240 Alta View Apartments. I support everything that Tony and 476 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Anthony spoke about but let me talk about I I do support a safer more 477 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:21,040 walkable connected community on the Westside. I live in Millcreek. I have 478 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:26,040 every amenity that I possibly could need next to me but the Westside does not. I 479 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,960 feel that this community plan starts somewhere but isn't anywhere near where 480 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,800 it should be. This I gave you a handout with a bunch of data that came from your 481 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:40,080 own surveys. 56,000 residents live in the Westside of 482 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:44,400 Salt Lake. 29,000 of them commute out. So it's not a walking city. It's a 483 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:48,080 commuting city. 22,000 of those workers commute in. So when you come in to work 484 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,760 of those government agencies and all those businesses that are there there's 485 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:56,000 nowhere to eat. I've ridden horses in the Rose Park area for 20 years. My 486 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,760 friends work at the state businesses and they say it's a food dead zone. So I'm 487 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:04,240 currently trying to start a business called Coffee on Second in this house. 488 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:08,800 It's a 125 year old house. I've owned it for 9 years. Literally I have three 489 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:12,480 options. I sell it to a developer, I tear it down or I build something with 490 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,760 what I have. Basically I have to build with something with what I have because 491 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:20,280 it's not affordable for me to tear down the property and build something new. 492 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,800 So in the process of doing this I've had to work with the city to try to put a 493 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:27,400 coffee shop in this house. Let me tell you the process sucks. 494 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Sucks for all of us. It's long, arduous. I've paid $6,000 in 495 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,720 fees and impact that I haven't even opened the building yet. I haven't even 496 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,920 opened the doors. So, it's a hundred thousand plus to open 497 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,120 up a business, redo my house, my mom remodel it up to the 498 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,960 the ordinances and the construction requirements you bring. 499 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,560 So, let me tell you how hard it is to put a business in Salt Lake City. 500 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Especially when it clearly says in your statistics that most people want those. 501 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,880 The Westside wants grocery, restaurants, healthcare, recreation, and shopping. 502 00:36:54,040 --> 00:37:01,080 And 48% of your Westside resident surveys say they cannot access that. So, 503 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:06,520 please look at this plan, put economy as number one. That's what it should do. It 504 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,520 will drive all the rest of the 505 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:16,720 » Next, we will hear from Dorothy Owen, followed by Nancy Philip, and then Lynn 506 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,720 Skitman. 507 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:28,080 » So, my name is Dorothy Owen. And I first became the chair of the West 508 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,120 Point Community Council 10 years ago. I checked it today. And I have with me 509 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,080 Lynn Skidmore, who is also here representing the board of West Point 510 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,440 Community Council. Um 511 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:45,120 We're here to speak to the Northwest plan that you're looking at and asking 512 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:51,720 you to pause it and to take advantage of the hundred 513 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:57,360 thousand dollar investment that you as a council made in developing the North 514 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Point Small Area Plan. In 2019, 515 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,560 um this council appropriated a hundred 516 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:10,800 thousand dollars to a consulting firm to come up with that plan, realizing that 517 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,320 this was a very important area, very sensitive area, 518 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:19,040 and that the planning commission really didn't have nor did the planning staff 519 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:23,680 didn't have time to do that. Um when you read their report, 520 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:28,760 they talk about how much um community input they did. And we were 521 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,920 the community council was very much involved. There were questionnaires, 522 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:37,120 there were public meetings, there were draft comments, in-person interviews. I 523 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,040 mean, you know, they have a whole section on it. 524 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:46,560 Um as a result of that public input, their 525 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:51,800 consultants state that uh the plan focus shifted for them. 526 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:54,560 It shifted from developing land use recommendations, which are very 527 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:59,800 specific, to developing tools that would be 528 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:05,120 available to the city to preserve the habitat, mitigate negative impacts, 529 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,520 um and determine appropriate improvements. 530 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:16,160 You have a $100,000 investment in the North Point Northwest North Point small 531 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,040 area plan for tools to help you do your job. 532 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,920 And I think that um 533 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:25,520 it would not be wise to just ignore that. 534 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,720 Thank you. >> Thank you, Dorothy. 535 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,720 Thank you, Dorothy. 536 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:40,440 » Next, we will hear from Nancy Philip, followed by 537 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:46,400 Lynn Skitman, and then Lynn DeFritas. All of them here in person. 538 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:51,280 So, uh Nancy, you may walk up to speak. >> Good evening and thank you for um 539 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:54,440 accepting public comment on this really important issue. 540 00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Adriana is my business partner, and we're trying to put in a small business 541 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:05,680 uh locally owned, obviously, on 824 West 200 South. 542 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:11,720 What's important about this plan is not priority 1 2 3, it's priority 12, 543 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:15,480 which is economic growth. And 544 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:19,120 in your own survey, in your own plan, it says 48% of the residents on the west 545 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:24,400 side don't have access to certain resources, 546 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:29,920 small businesses, grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, convenience 547 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:36,360 stores. And we want to build something like that. And if we if you all talk to 548 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:40,520 the residents like we have, and we have people who walk by our building every 549 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,520 day, we're out there every day. They walk by and say, "When are you 550 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,840 opening? We can't wait. There's no coffee shops around here." 551 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:55,240 The The challenge is is that the 12th priority in your plan is economics. 552 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:59,360 You For the residents that exist there right now, there aren't the resources 553 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:04,520 that they're looking for. So, you're proposing building a whole bunch of 554 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:09,720 housing without resources for the for the individuals that live there now. 555 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:14,840 Just yesterday, we had somebody who lived around the corner for our from our 556 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:19,840 shop that we're opening, hopefully soon. And they said, "I want to come work for 557 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:25,000 you." So, our small business is going to provide jobs, is going to provide 558 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:30,000 resources, is going to provide a safe space for people to come and visit and 559 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:35,080 stay and have a great cup of coffee. What I don't appreciate, what I'd really 560 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:41,440 like the council to look at is shifting the economic importance of your plan up 561 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,680 higher and move down residential. Thank you. 562 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:55,600 » Next, we will hear from Lynn Skitman, followed by Linda Freitas, and then 563 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,200 Heidi Holtan. Lynn, you may walk up to speak. 564 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:06,280 » Thank you. I have no comment. I must have checked the wrong box. 565 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:06,280 I'll donate my time to the other Lynn. 566 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:13,240 » Linda Freitas, you may walk up to speak. >> Thank you very much. I'm Linda de a 567 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,840 resident of Salt Lake City and the executive director of Friends of Great 568 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,280 Salt Lake working to preserve and protect the Great Salt Lake ecosystem. 569 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:26,840 Um as stated in the introduction of the Northwest Community Plan um and in 570 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:31,880 support of Salt Lake City's overarching vision established in Plan Salt Lake 571 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:36,000 over the next 15 years, the Northwest Community Plan will guide future 572 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:39,560 decisions about growth, development, and community priorities for its unique 573 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,880 neighborhoods and their impressive characteristics. 574 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:48,200 With a notable reference to the Jordan River Emerald Ribbon Action Plan as an 575 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:53,120 asset and valuable tool that recognizes nature, wildlife, ecosystems, and 576 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:57,760 opportunities for public engagement, I was disappointed with the exclusion of 577 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:02,560 the North Point Small Area Plan in this vision. This is a tremendous missed 578 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:07,400 opportunity for the Northwest community to expand its reach, its recognition, 579 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:12,520 and its relationship with its neighbor right next door, Great Salt Lake and its 580 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:17,760 shoreline. The Northwest Community Plan proposes to take all of us beyond the 581 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:21,640 2034 Utah Winter Olympics and into the future. 582 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:26,720 A future that should confirm Salt Lake City's belief in our commitment to 583 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:30,920 preserve and protect the Great Salt Lake ecosystem in perpetuity. 584 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,400 If wishes were for brine shrimp, the Salt Lake's Salt Lake City Council would 585 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:40,040 push the pause button on its approval of the Northwest Community Plan and give 586 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:46,120 further consideration of including the North Point Small Area Plan in this 587 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,120 vision. Thank you very much. 588 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:54,440 » Next, we will hear from Heidi Hoven followed by Izumi Nakamura. 589 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,240 » Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you. I'm Heidi 590 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:07,120 Hoven. I work for National Audubon Society and I oversee the management of 591 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:12,360 a shorebird sanctuary right on the shores of Great Salt Lake. 592 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:16,640 I am asking you to please pause adoption of the Northwest Community Plan as it is 593 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,880 incomplete. It is an opportunity to link plans with 594 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:26,760 the level of detail needed for proper uses of land adjacent to sensitive lands 595 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:32,360 included in the North Point Small Area Plan but not specified. 596 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:36,960 I ask how does the new Northwest Community Plan address the 597 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,880 2040 targets and initiatives of Plan Salt Lake? 598 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:46,240 By leaving out the North Point Small Area Plan and not having conservation 599 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:49,880 tools already in place to be used. These sensitive lands are hydrologically 600 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,520 connected to Great Salt Lake and its wetland and upland habitats and its 601 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,720 shoreline. I will read if I have time the three 602 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,520 bullets that that are here in Plan Salt Lake 603 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:05,640 to meet the initiatives. Support of zoo stewardship of city on natural open 604 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:09,600 space, implementation and promotion of best practices in management stewardship 605 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,800 of natural lands, restoration of aquatic and riparian 606 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:18,400 corridors and habitats including daylighting of streams and water 607 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:23,200 corridors and reduction in habitat fragmentation. 608 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:27,880 Please consider pausing and adopting the Northwest Community Plan and push for 609 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:33,480 more thoughtful protections and land conservation programs for Salt Lake City 610 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:39,720 by including the North Point Small Area Plan in the North West Community Plan. 611 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,720 Thank you. 612 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,360 » Now we'll hear from Izumi Okamura. Uh 613 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:49,960 they are the last person signed to speak on this item. 614 00:45:53,720 --> 00:46:01,440 » Hello, I'm a resident of uh Fair Park and recently a member of the Community 615 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:06,920 Council there. Um in reviewing the plan uh there's some things that I would like 616 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:10,160 to um the council to consider is the maintenance of things going forward. 617 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,800 I go to the Northwest Park Center very 618 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:17,400 frequently. There were a bunch of updates made there. And um 619 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:20,640 it looked really nice for about a month until they stopped maintaining it 620 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:25,040 completely. Nobody mows the lawn, the weeds are growing. It was just like a 621 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:28,800 lot of investment without actually maintenance going forward. So, would ask 622 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,760 for all of these improvements to also include a plan for how to 623 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,600 maintain all the improvements so that we don't just invest and have things 624 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:43,360 go to the wayside. Um second point I have is there's a lot 625 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,320 about affordable housing and incentives there. And there's potential 626 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,920 um I think it said 627 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,840 uh that they would consider having incentives for mixed-income housing, but 628 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,520 I actually think that that's something that 629 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:02,160 that really needs to be considered for um kind of what a lot of the people here 630 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,640 have already mentioned about having businesses incentivizing them to want to 631 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:10,160 be in the area. If we only have affordable housing, um it's not going to 632 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:15,600 create the kind of economy that we need in the area. Um [clears throat] 633 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,600 okay, that's all. Thank you. 634 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,600 » Thank you all of those that shared their your comments. 635 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:28,000 Um we're going to um ask for I'm going to ask for a motion. 636 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,360 » I move the council close the public hearing and defer action to a future 637 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,680 council meeting. >> Second. 638 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:43,160 » Council member Petro for the motion and Dugan for the second. 639 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,600 Any discussion? I'm going to call the question. All 640 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,760 those in favor say I. >> I. 641 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,960 » I. Any opposed? Okay, this motion carries unanimously. 642 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:58,840 We're going to move to item B5, which is an ordinance for the 643 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,880 ballpark zoning map and text amendment. Uh we're going to welcome at the table 644 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,880 Kate Ward, who's council policy analyst, to give us 645 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:11,440 a short introduction. Kate. >> Thank you. In December 2025, the CRA 646 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:16,400 board adopted the Ballpark Next Community Design Plan. Two elements of 647 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:23,800 this project include, first, approximately 4.8 acres of public green 648 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:30,280 space. Of the overall 14.8 acres, um that 4.8 acres, or approximately 32% 649 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:34,840 of the overall acreage, is planned to be green space and outdoor public space, 650 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:40,960 including a creek park and neighborhood fields. Second, the CRA and city plan to 651 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:45,200 prioritize maintaining ownership of a majority of the land included in the 652 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:50,840 rezone. Tonight, this is a public hearing for a rezone proposal to amend 653 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:55,520 the zoning on 14.8 acres of city-owned property associated with the Ballpark 654 00:48:53,360 --> 00:49:01,040 Next Community Design Plan for public lands 655 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:06,880 um to rezone from public lands to MU8 and MU5, and a text amendment to remove 656 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,920 existing ballpark signage requirements, which were 657 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,960 associated with the former ballpark stadium. 658 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,200 The planning commission and planning staff both recommend approval. In 659 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:23,600 response to constituent and planning commission feedback, at your July 14th 660 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,720 work session, the city council straw polled to amend the proposed maximum 661 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,440 zoning amendment. The f- 662 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:40,040 It proposed a maximum zoning um amendment to rather MU8 um to MU8 rather 663 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:45,960 than MU11 as presented by the community reinvestment rezone application. This 664 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:55,120 amended um rezone ordinance now includes changing the 14.8 acres of public of of 665 00:49:50,600 --> 00:50:00,640 currently zoned public lands to um MU8 and MU5. Thank you. 666 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:04,720 » Thank you, Kate. Isaac, please start with our first 667 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:09,920 public comment on this item. >> First, we'll hear from Emily Sloan Pace, 668 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:16,840 followed by MJ Powell, and then Christopher Derbidge. Emily is here 669 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,840 online. You may now unmute. 670 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:25,280 » Thanks. My name is Emily Sloan Pace, and I'm here tonight as chair of the 671 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:30,320 Downtown Community Council. We urge the City Council not to approve a rezone 672 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:35,000 that results in less green space and less public space than currently exists. 673 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:39,240 Downtown knows what happens when development moves faster than investment 674 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:43,560 in the public realm. While we have welcomed thousands of new residents and 675 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:48,680 extraordinary amounts of construction, we've also watched a once mature tree 676 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:53,760 canopy disappear, replaced with trees that will take decades to provide the 677 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:59,160 same shade and cooling. We should learn from that experience, not reproduce it 678 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:03,800 five blocks to the south. Ballpark already has too little park space in one 679 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:08,680 of the hotter parts of the city and is absorbing significant growth. This 680 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:14,760 proposal could substantially reduce its existing green and public space. Trees, 681 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:19,520 parks, shade, and soil are infrastructure. They are key 682 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:24,880 determinants of health for generations, and importantly, this land belongs to 683 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:29,840 the public. The city is spending significant resources trying to put 684 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:34,640 trees, shade, and green space back where they were lost or never preserved. 685 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:41,120 Ballpark still has something downtown is desperately trying to recreate, publicly 686 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:46,200 owned land available to open for with established green space. 687 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,160 Please don't build it away and ask another generation to figure out how to 688 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,200 put it back. Preserving the space that exists today should be the floor. With 689 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:58,520 15 acres of publicly owned land, the city should be asking how much more 690 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:02,920 green space we can create, not how much we are willing to lose. To paraphrase 691 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:09,000 Mr. Wharton's recent comments about the Victory Arch, listen to the community. 692 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:14,800 Make sure this decision is made with the public, not just for the public. Thank 693 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,800 you so much. 694 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:24,960 » Next, we will hear from MJ Powell, followed by Christopher Derbidge, and 695 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:30,880 then Janice Loop. >> Uh good evening council. My name is MJ 696 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:35,760 Powell. I am a resident of District 3, but I am a sixth-generation resident of 697 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:41,600 Salt Lake City from the West Side. Today, I deliver my remarks um in this 698 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:46,240 um as it pertains to Ballpark and the rezone of Ballpark uh to share my 699 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:50,400 experience from a boots-on-the-ground level as someone who also interned at 700 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:56,160 the Utah Jazz, and also took a bike there every day public transit. 701 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:59,720 We are not prioritizing public transit the way we need to in areas of this city 702 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:04,080 that have been historically neglected and ignored, and where low-income 703 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:08,600 residents rely on these services to provide for their families. In a time at 704 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,040 a crisis where people are having problems putting food on the table, and 705 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:16,280 the conversation results to green spaces, it often makes me wonder if the 706 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:20,080 administration is ignoring the root of the real issues. Economic disparity is 707 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:25,120 more important than where people are going to go hang out in the middle of 708 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:28,280 July and on on a hot day. People are wondering where the free lunch programs 709 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,160 in those parks went, where they're going to go. 710 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:35,520 These are the target focuses that the partnerships within the administration 711 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:39,760 should be focusing on, not commitments and pledges to making sure that we're 712 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,880 building a thousand trees in an area where we we even have the irrigation or 713 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:48,800 water to sustain those developments. I bring this up because Ballpark is an 714 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:52,800 area that is going to be invested in significantly while the historical 715 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,080 residents and current residents of those areas are often ignored 716 00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:00,200 while we see gentrification take place. I ask you in every decision you 717 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:05,280 implement when it pertains to this rezone to maybe even look at the people 718 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:10,320 in Midvale who were looking for housing right after an apartment fire where they 719 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:14,800 had nowhere to go. Your priority is the needs of the people that you were 720 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:19,320 elected to represent in the Constitution you serve, not the developers like in 721 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,480 the work session I kept hearing people straw polling for. Thank you. 722 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:33,840 » Next we will hear from Christopher Derbidge followed by Janice Lou and then 723 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,840 Jeff Sandstrom. 724 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:42,680 » Mayor and councilman, I am Christopher Derbidge of 1407 South Richard Street 725 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:46,760 immediately south of the Ballpark. I support reinvestment in this property. 726 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:50,720 I support adaptive reuse of stadium public amenities, appropriate housing, 727 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,960 safer streets, and strong future for the Ballpark neighborhood. 728 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:58,000 I'm not asking the city to abandon Ballpark next. I am asking you to 729 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,120 protect the southern residential edge and require the information needed to 730 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,600 protect the people who already live there. 731 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,040 My first concern is historic preservation and neighborhood 732 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,560 continuity. Richard Street did not appear after the 733 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:15,120 Ballpark. The original South Main Street addition plat and the legal description 734 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,720 that still governs our properties show that the residential area has roots 735 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:22,320 predating the ball baseball complex. 736 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:27,320 The site changed from community park to Derks 737 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:32,000 Field and later stadium while the small enclave endured. I and several of my 738 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,120 Richard Street neighbors came before the planning commission 739 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:39,240 over another development proposed and raised concerns about neighborhood fit, 740 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:42,840 parking, traffic, service access. Ballpark Next itself says it will 741 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,600 acknowledge the past and honor the neighborhood history. 742 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,680 I ask you to apply that principle to surviving neighborhood, not only to the 743 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:54,800 stadium. My second concern is the existing green edge immediately behind 744 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,440 our homes today are areas that include grass, a hill, a scoreboard, a stadium 745 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,200 lights, and children's playground and picnic tables. 746 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:10,920 The city's materials identify the ballpark property as publicly owned and 747 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:15,600 show buildings I, J, K up to 45 ft long the southern portion of 748 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:19,880 the site. But the materials we received do not tell us that the legal status of 749 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,880 the existing green areas or exactly what happens to those amenities. I'm not 750 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,520 asking to assume that they are legally dedicated parkland. I'm asking the city 751 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,120 to answer the questions before the edge is committed to the private development. 752 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:35,120 Which parcels contain playground, hill, picnic area, and other green spaces? 753 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,920 Who holds title today? Are any of those parcels on the city's open space lands 754 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,360 inventory? Thank you. 755 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,760 Thank you. 756 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:51,560 » Next we'll follow we'll hear from Janice Liu, followed by Jeff Sandstorm, and 757 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:55,480 then Jim Jenkin. Janice, you may walk up to the podium. 758 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,600 » Good evening. I'm here to express my opposition to the 759 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:11,160 proposed zoning map and text amendments for the 760 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:16,320 city owned um property that includes the Smith Ballpark site. 761 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:19,960 As a resident of the community and a Ballpark Community Council board 762 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,440 member, I have researched, discussed, and 763 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:29,520 engaged with the planning of the Ballpark site for months. 764 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:35,040 Um after carefully careful consideration, I think the proposed zone 765 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:40,320 changes aligning with the Ballpark Next Plan 766 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:45,680 would negatively impact our community. I respectfully ask that the City Council 767 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:50,960 to forward the proposed zoning map and text amendments. 768 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:57,120 They fail to adequately address the city's equitable equitable distribution 769 00:57:54,520 --> 00:58:02,440 of public owned green space essential to protect our environment 770 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:07,840 support greener living and enhance community health. 771 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:13,920 Um public open green spaces are a critical part of the urban 772 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:19,400 infrastructure of a healthy city. Cities around the world are working to 773 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:26,120 mitigate extreme heat and adapt urban life to climate change. 774 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:32,040 Climate forward forward SLC states Salt Lake City is working to create create a 775 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:38,840 clean, green, affordable and resilient community where people and 776 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:43,920 nature can thrive. Integrating quality public green open 777 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:50,200 space into the heart of the Ballpark community is key to this. 778 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:54,760 And I'll just um mention that I'm very disappointed 779 00:58:52,320 --> 00:59:01,240 with what was produced um for the Ballpark Next Plan. 780 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,240 Thank you. 781 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:11,440 » Next we'll hear from Jeff Sandstrom followed by Jim Jankins and then Fraser 782 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:16,600 Fraser Nelson. Uh Jeff, you may walk up and speak. 783 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:21,400 » I'm Jeff Sandstrom, Ballpark Community Council board member. 784 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:26,520 Resoning thoughts. Can the rezone remain flexible and done 785 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,600 in stages? Might be something to think about. 786 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:33,880 Preserving green space on the site is an integral part of the Ballpark Next 787 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:39,000 Community Plan. Does the rezone make green space a priority? 788 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:42,640 It is the number one requested uh item from our neighborhood and 789 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:46,800 community meetings. Since a comprehensive funding plan for 790 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:51,120 Ballpark Next is still to be determined, wouldn't the city be better served by 791 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:55,880 embracing, repurposing, and reimagining the existing Ballpark Stadium? 792 00:59:53,880 --> 01:00:01,040 Imagine the top level with enhanced suites, enclosed banquet, and meeting 793 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:05,680 spaces with spectacular views. Imagine canopy over the seating, 794 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:10,320 year-round activation and utilization during the Olympics. This is a uniquely 795 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:15,240 sized, viable venue that is already owned by the city. 796 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:19,240 Proposed multi-family housing feels like it's encroaching on the entire project. 797 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:26,240 If the public land has to become housing, consider ownership opportunity 798 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:32,400 mid-density housing limited to the north and south boundaries of the property. 799 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:37,000 A hotel is an unacceptable use of public land and may not be viable 800 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:41,760 and does not promote community engagement. Reminder, the Red Lion, the 801 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,600 Sheraton, and Ramada were all unsustainable and have been repurposed 802 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:49,280 because they were too far from city center. 803 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:54,080 This space has been dedicated to public land for more than 100 years. Does the 804 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:59,720 proposed rezone focus on community engagement, open space, and green space? 805 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,280 We have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to preserve and maintain a rare parcel 806 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,760 of public land in Salt Lake City. Thank you. 807 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:14,520 » Next, we'll hear from Jim Jenkin, followed by Fresher Nelson, and then Amy 808 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,880 Hawkins. Jim, you may speak. 809 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,560 » Good evening, council members. I am Jim Jenkin. 810 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:28,400 Um and I stand with the members of the planning commission, the three of them 811 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:34,320 who opposed this plan on the basis of uh potential heights, premature timing, and 812 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:38,680 particularly insufficient public space. Uh like many speakers, I would like to 813 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:44,440 emphasize green space. Um, these public lands may represent the 814 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:48,400 last opportunity for green space within the city proper. 815 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:52,360 Green space, of course, provides relief from heat for people 816 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:58,000 and the surroundings. Ballpark is in a heat island. 817 01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:01,920 They need trees. They need shade. They need water. 818 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,240 They need grass. Most of these are not found on a play 819 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:09,360 field. I urge the council 820 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,800 to reject this proposal and to retain public lands designated for the creation 821 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:17,880 of green space. I think that releasing so much public 822 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:21,720 land without the creation of green space wastes a huge opportunity to increase 823 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:27,640 public welfare. And to do so would provide enhancing for 824 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:32,960 the development and for the area as well. So, I'm a big green space fan. 825 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,960 Thanks. 826 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:46,240 » Now, we will hear from Frazier Nelson, followed by Amy Hawkins, and then Ze- 827 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:49,600 Sarah Snedeker. >> Hi, my name is Frazier Nelson. I'm a 828 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:54,080 resident of the Ballpark neighborhood and chair of the Ballpark Action Team. 829 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:57,680 BAT doesn't take positions on zoning. We leave that to our colleagues at the 830 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:01,080 Ballpark Community Council. But, we do activate our neighborhood through events 831 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,440 like Pie and Beer Day, which I know many of you attended. And we hold large 832 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,760 community meetings where residents, business owners, and landowners and 833 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:13,480 developers in the neighborhood provide input on plans impacting the future of 834 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,360 our neighborhood. One thing that we have heard 835 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:20,120 consistently throughout every meeting we've held over 836 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:24,120 the last 3 years is the need for more public space, public green space, and 837 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:28,240 you're hearing that again tonight. This has been a constant not only at our 838 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:31,160 meetings and reports from those meetings we have shared with the council and 839 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:36,640 shared with the planning commission and the CRA, but from your own studies 840 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:41,440 and every single public meeting that has been held on this issue, the one thing 841 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:45,360 you have heard consistently is that the plan does not address the need for green 842 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:50,120 space that exists in our neighborhood and exists in our city as a whole. 843 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:54,640 Now is the time to say that as much of the land as possible should be saved and 844 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:59,040 the zoning should reflect the needs that you've heard from the community and the 845 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:03,880 needs your own studies have addressed. We've heard over and over again that 846 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:09,480 this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and it is. It's a once-in-a-lifetime 847 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,480 opportunity public lands, save public green space, 848 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:16,440 and be responsive to the voices of the community that you've heard from. 849 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,440 Thanks. 850 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:28,480 » Now we'll hear from Amy Hawkins followed by Sarah Sinnett Decker and then Joe 851 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,480 Revaglia. 852 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:34,000 » Good evening. I'm Amy Hawkins and I serve as chair of the Ballpark Community 853 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:39,720 Council. My ask tonight is simple. Please do not 854 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:45,040 rezone the entire 14.8 acre Ballpark site to mixed-use right now. 855 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:49,160 Instead, please consider retaining public lands zoning on the portions of 856 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:53,200 the site that are intended to provide lasting green space and heat reducing 857 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:58,120 benefits. The city can move Ballpark next forward 858 01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:02,080 while preserving flexibility to respond to the neighborhood's long-term needs 859 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:06,360 for green space and planning for heat resilience. 860 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:11,240 Please consider first, Ballpark next was designed to evolve. The plan describes 861 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:16,360 itself as flexible guidance intended to adapt to changing market conditions and 862 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:20,760 community priorities. Second, the geography of Ballpark Next has already 863 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:25,920 changed. The plan was developed around 14.8 acres. Since then, the city has 864 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:29,240 acquired three additional properties immediately to the west of the site to 865 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:33,600 contribute to Ballpark Next redevelopment. With a larger publicly 866 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:39,040 owned footprint, the city has more flexibility to consider where housing 867 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:42,880 and amenities should go and whether more of the original Ballpark site should 868 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:47,600 stay green. Finally, to our knowledge, no public 869 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:51,600 funding plan has been presented for implementing Ballpark Next and we know 870 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:56,320 that implementation is going to have to occur in phases. 871 01:05:53,400 --> 01:06:00,400 This is not an anti-density request. The blocks immediately to the north and west 872 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:05,600 of the Ballpark site are already zoned MU-A. One block further west, most of 873 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:09,680 300 West is zoned for 11-story buildings, but we do think this area of 874 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:14,040 the city and its future residents deserve equitable access to green space 875 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,680 and tree canopy. This request today is to ensure that 876 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,040 Ballpark Next deserves the greatest possible public benefit for the 877 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:25,600 neighborhood and the broader Salt Lake City community. Thank you for your 878 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,600 consideration. 879 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,080 » Next Next [clears throat] we'll hear from 880 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,800 Sarah Snedecker followed by Joe Rabaglia and then Kevin 881 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:40,160 Latch. Sarah, you may walk up to speak. 882 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,400 » Hi, good evening. She's asleep, so I'll see if she That 883 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:46,520 stays that way. Uh my name is Sarah Snedecker and I live 884 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:51,280 on Richard Street just south of the Ballpark with my husband Joe and 885 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,680 our 5-month-old daughter. Uh Joe bought our house over a decade 886 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,760 ago and has been fixing it up since, making some much-needed upgrades. One 887 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:03,880 last major renovation on the list was redoing the 1980s kitchen and bathroom. 888 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:07,240 When we got married and decided to start a family, we talked about whether or not 889 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:11,240 to stay in our current house and do the remodel or to move. We waited to make 890 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,480 that decision until the Ballpark Next renderings were released and we had more 891 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,080 clarity on the city's intent for the space. 892 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:21,240 Although we would miss the B's as our neighbors, we were initially excited to 893 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:26,000 see these changes include so much community green space and a library at 894 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:30,400 our front door. And this is something that our neighborhood lacks greatly. Our 895 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,520 street is quiet and a great place to raise a family because of its unique 896 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,680 positioning as a dead end into the Ballpark. 897 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,400 We decided to stay relying heavily on these plans that were put out. We took 898 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:44,600 out a significant loan to make the much-needed improvements and upgrades. 899 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:49,080 We could have spent significantly less to simply up update the look and sell 900 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:54,520 it, but we chose to invest in our future home there to honor the history of the 901 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:58,440 1909 home. Not only did we upgrade the typical things for our kitchen and 902 01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:01,640 bathroom like you know, the typical things, but we 903 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:05,920 also furred out walls to add insulation. We replaced old knob and tube electrical 904 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,120 wiring and added mini splits. And I'm telling you all of this because we love 905 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:12,480 our house, we love our street, and we are hopeful for the future of the 906 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,000 neighborhood. We changed our economic position in order to make it our home 907 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:19,240 and to raise our family in. We made this decision because of the 908 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,640 initial plans that detailed open community green space. And if you go 909 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:26,880 forward with the proposed rezoning, we will be harmed and who would benefit? So 910 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:33,000 we urge you to please consider voting no on the 911 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,000 rezone. Thank you for your time. 912 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:42,279 » Next, we will hear from Joe Rabaglia followed by Kevin Launch and then Ashley 913 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,080 Lawrence. Joe, you may speak. 914 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,799 » Thank you. Good evening and thank you for letting us speak. Uh my name is Joe 915 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:53,240 Rabaglia, resident of Richard Street 1396. I am 916 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:57,839 here to speak on several concerns. Um one being the proximity of the new 917 01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:03,839 rezoning of the high-density housing to my property. I am feet away from the 918 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:09,680 Ballpark property which would be close enough for the safety of my my 919 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:13,920 family um to basically to prevent the 920 01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:20,040 the the view of apartments above my property. Um 921 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:25,560 Safety being first and of my family, uh the second priority is also the 922 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:31,040 well-being of my my family. Um the removal of public land would uh 923 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:36,600 negatively affect my the the development of my of my child. Uh we would love to 924 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:40,600 grow up with a park nearby and uh 925 01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:44,400 enjoy those amenities. Uh third, the the proximity of the higher density housing 926 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:49,400 would negatively affect my property value. I As my wife just said, we have 927 01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:52,880 spent a significant amount of money to invest in that property that we want to 928 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:58,840 stay in for the future. Um and speaking with other investors and 929 01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:02,640 resources that um the 930 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:07,600 the high-density housing would is also negatively affecting their properties. 931 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,600 Um that's it. Thank you. 932 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:17,840 » Next, we'll hear from Kevin Launch, followed by Ashley Lawrence, and finally 933 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,480 John Allison. >> I should apologize. Going to date myself 934 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:25,400 here. Anyone who's played SimCity knows the 935 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:29,680 formula. First, all right, you build the shacks, right? Then you build houses, 936 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:32,360 then townhouses, then huge mega complexes, and then everything falls 937 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,160 apart. New residents flock in. That's what 938 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:38,160 you're after, right? But those ungrateful Sims are unhappy, and you 939 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,880 keep getting those little frowny faces that tank your score. You quickly learn 940 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,960 you have to offer services to get back the little smiley faces. Nothing works 941 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:51,640 well enough, though. Eventually, the last thing that everyone does, me, too, 942 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:54,920 as a Hail Mary, basically, we start putting in statues, and gardens, and 943 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,920 parks. Doesn't make any sense. You don't make money off those things, but you do 944 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,040 it anyways, cuz what else you going to do? 945 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,960 And that's when things start to change for really no clear reason. 946 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:08,280 Real life isn't so different. Ballpark has received multiple new high-density 947 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:12,280 projects. For all you're mad. Our census has exploded. We have to offset that by 948 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,120 protecting this valuable and unique parcel of land. 949 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,480 Filling each square foot to bursting with no public safe solves a very small 950 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,760 fraction of the housing problem, while creating subtle, but devastating new 951 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,360 problems. Our biology actually craves space and greenery. I'm a dude. I don't 952 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,960 want to believe that, but it's true, right? And we literally suffer in its 953 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,280 absence. It may not be intuitive, but you need only look at the thousands of 954 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:35,560 people who utilize Liberty and Sugarhouse Park every single day to 955 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:39,040 observe this point. We settled these questions 70 years ago. 956 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:43,640 Rats, like us, are very social creatures. So, Calhoun created a rat 957 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:47,160 utopia with unlimited resources, but in a very fixed and overcrowded space and 958 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:51,080 just watched what happened. Initially, it thrived. Population 959 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:54,320 doubled and doubled and doubled again. But then social cohesion and mental 960 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:58,160 health just plummeted. There were huge spikes in aggression, peer predation, 961 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:02,640 even parental abandonment, followed by colony collapse every time they ran the 962 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:06,000 experiment. Critics argue, "We're not rats." Fair enough. Vallance and Baum 963 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:09,640 conducted randomized studies on college students. 964 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,840 Same thing, to a lesser extent. And we found that increased size, anxiety, 965 01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:17,560 isolation, dislike, and and disengagement carried 966 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,240 outside their their environment. I see what you're trying to do for us, but I 967 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,520 challenge you to consider what you're doing. 968 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:34,160 » Next, we'll hear from Ashley Lawrence, followed by John Allison. 969 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:38,960 » Hello. I purchased our house on 1400 Richard Street about 9 years ago. It was 970 01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:42,480 a definitely above my price range, but we invested 971 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,720 um at it being a reach, knowing that it was a dead-end street and how quiet the 972 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,920 neighborhood was. What I was not prepared for was the level of crime that 973 01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:52,400 we have have in the neighborhood, and I feel like we are 974 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:56,400 kind of sheltered from that because of the dead end. And so, I'm mostly 975 01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:03,360 concerned about the opening up of our road to a driving access and the high 976 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:06,960 density houses because of that quiet safety that we currently have on our 977 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:10,240 street. So, that is what I would like to request for you guys to keep it public 978 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,680 lands for those reasons. Thank you. 979 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:21,560 » Now, we'll hear from John Allison and there is nobody signed up to speak after 980 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,560 them. 981 01:13:23,615 --> 01:13:27,280 » [clears throat] >> Hi, my name's John Allison. I live at 982 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,400 the intersection of Merrimack and Richard Street on the south side of 983 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,080 Ballpark neighborhood. And I think everyone here has already kind of said 984 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:37,160 what I wanted to say, which is to maintain maximum amount of green space 985 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:41,000 while also offering housing to people who come to our city and want to live 986 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:44,560 here. Um, I'm getting in a bit in the minutia, but if things should open up on 987 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,400 the south side of the ballpark at Richard Street, I would highly recommend 988 01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:54,280 this council consider limiting access Richard Street into the ballpark area. 989 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:58,600 We have a serious issue with people using Merrimack as a cut through, 990 01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:02,560 constantly speeding, you know, running up potentially occasionally almost 991 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:07,200 running over me, my dog, my wife. And I feel like if you open up Richard Street 992 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:11,440 to full access to vehicles, it's only going to be made worse as people enter 993 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:15,360 and exit whatever ends up going into the space on Richard Street. And that's all 994 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:18,120 I got. Thank you for your time. 995 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:26,200 » Thank you. All of those who shared your comments on this item, I need a motion. 996 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:33,760 » Mr. Chair, I move that the council close the public hearing and defer action to a 997 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:36,440 future meeting. >> Second. 998 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:39,920 » Second. >> I have a motion by Councilmember Carlson 999 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,800 and a second by Napier Pierce, Councilmember. 1000 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,080 Um, is there any discussion on this item? 1001 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:51,560 » Mr. Chair. Um, I want to say thank you to neighbors 1002 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:55,880 and to residents of the Ballpark community as well as residents from 1003 01:14:53,400 --> 01:15:00,240 across Salt Lake City who came to share their thoughts and feedback on this 1004 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:04,640 proposed rezone. I also want to acknowledge that many of the voices that 1005 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:08,400 were involved in the Ballpark Next plan which took place over a year that helped 1006 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:11,280 to reimagine what the future of this space would be. 1007 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:18,520 I hear the concerns about the urban heat island that 1008 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:23,880 this exists in. We feel the urban heat island that this 1009 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:28,360 exists in. And I share the concerns around max opportunities to maximize 1010 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:33,000 green space, opportunities to protect the mature trees that do exist in the 1011 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:37,960 Ballpark neighborhood, and other ways to bring down the heat island in this in 1012 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:42,800 this part of the city. Related to that heat island effect and 1013 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:48,400 to bringing down some of the heat that is experienced in that part of the city, 1014 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:55,440 I'm appreciative to my colleagues for being willing to re-examine the proposed 1015 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:59,560 zoning from MU-11 to MU-8 because we know that the taller the buildings, the 1016 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:04,200 greater the heat island effect. And so I'm grateful that we were able to be 1017 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:10,280 thoughtful of that. Lastly, I am also grateful and will 1018 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:15,160 continue to stand steadfast by continued public ownership of the Ballpark site. 1019 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:20,600 This is a site that's been in Salt Lake City hands for generations. And I'll 1020 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:25,280 stand very firmly next to that along with what was outlined in the Ballpark 1021 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:31,680 Next plan specific to Richard Street that it maintains a that it maintains 1022 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:34,960 being a pedestrian street. So, I know that there are a lot of details 1023 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:39,200 that we yet don't know about the Ballpark Next and 1024 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:43,960 down and dirty of what's what's to come, but we do have a a concept of what's 1025 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:48,200 coming next and would love to stay in conversation with neighbors on what the 1026 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:52,520 future looks like. And so, thank you to everyone for being here, for caring 1027 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:57,400 about the neighborhood, and for showing up tonight. Thank you. 1028 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,760 » Any other comments? I'm going to call the question. All of 1029 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,160 those in favor say I. >> I. 1030 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:08,400 » I. >> Any opposed or abstentions? 1031 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:14,360 Okay, this motion carries unanimously. Moving on. 1032 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:19,280 Um we're going to go to item C2, which is an ordinance for mobile 1033 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:22,000 business tax amendment. I need a motion. 1034 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,880 » I think it's C1. >> C1? 1035 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,680 » Yeah. >> Did I skip C1? I did. 1036 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,680 Going a little too fast here. C1, thank you. 1037 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:41,640 It's a resolution for the waiver of proximity for Via Veneto Pizzeria at 51 1038 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:46,080 511 East 900 South. 1039 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:49,400 And I need a motion for that. >> I move that the council adopt a 1040 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:53,320 resolution authorizing the execution of a local authority act 1041 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:58,320 local authorization for proximity to a community location for Via Veneto 1042 01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:00,480 Pizzeria located at 511 East 900 South, Salt Lake City. 1043 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,320 » Second. >> Second. 1044 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:08,360 » I have a motion by Council Member Petro and a second by Council Member Dugan. 1045 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,360 Any discussion? 1046 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:14,520 Okay, this makes sense. So, I'm excited. Uh all of those in favor say I. 1047 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:18,920 » I. >> Any opposed? 1048 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:23,120 This motion carries unanimously. Now, actually, C2. 1049 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:27,280 An ordinance for mobile business tax amendment, and I do need a motion. 1050 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,880 » Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt the ordinance. 1051 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:36,440 » Second. >> Um motion by Council Member Dugan, 1052 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,080 seconded by Council Member Young. Any discussion? 1053 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,000 All of those in favor say I. >> I. 1054 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,360 » Any opposed? Abstentions? 1055 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:52,880 This motion carries unanimously. Now we are in the D section of our agenda. Now 1056 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:55,880 we're going to go to D1, which is a resolution 1057 01:18:54,280 --> 01:19:01,240 for the amendment to the interlocal agreement between Salt Lake City and the 1058 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:04,480 library related to tax increment. I need a motion. 1059 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,840 » Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt the resolution amending the interlocal 1060 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:13,160 agreement between Salt Lake City and the Salt Lake City Community Reinvestment 1061 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:17,280 Agency to clarify the exclusion of the Salt Lake City Library tax increment. 1062 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,440 » Second. >> Councilmember Dugan made the motion and 1063 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,880 it was seconded by Councilmember Wharton. 1064 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:29,800 Is there any discussion on this? I think we should like file a claim. We 1065 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:34,360 don't like what we're doing here. We tried to make sense with the state 1066 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:37,560 and the county, but I'm going to call the question. All of those 1067 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,640 in favor say I. >> I. 1068 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:46,160 » Any opposed? This motion carries unanimously. Now 1069 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:51,240 we're going to skip E because there is no unfinished business and we're going 1070 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:53,480 to go to item F, which is the consent agenda. 1071 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,520 » Now for approval. >> And we need a 1072 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,680 We need to remove >> Sorry, with the exclusion of 1073 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:03,200 um >> Number five. 1074 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,840 » Yes, item number five. >> Second. 1075 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:10,600 » Okay, I have motion Councilmember Wharton 1076 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:14,240 and it's seconded by Councilmember Dugan is for the approval of the consent 1077 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:18,120 agenda except for item number five. 1078 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,960 All of those Is there any discussion? 1079 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,160 All of those in favor say I. >> I. 1080 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:28,720 » Any opposed? No opposed, so this motion carries 1081 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:32,760 unanimously. We're moving on to comments. 1082 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:36,240 Um section G. Um 1083 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:41,680 and are there any questions to for the mayor? 1084 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,680 Mayor's staff, thank you for being here. 1085 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:48,320 No? >> Thanks, Council. I've been listening in. 1086 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:53,760 Great public hearings tonight. >> Thank you, Mayor, for being there. Thank 1087 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:58,040 you, Rachel, um, for being here. Um, we're now at the general comment 1088 01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:02,040 portion of our agenda. This section is for the public comment of a 1089 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:05,040 for the public to comment on any city business not scheduled for a public 1090 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:10,400 hearing. It is limited to a maximum of 1 hour and 1091 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:15,960 and to only those individuals who register to speak before 7:30. 1092 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:20,600 Our meeting rules apply to those, uh, general comments. Please avoid 1093 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:23,080 disruptions or threats or we'll ask staff member to assist you out of the 1094 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:27,600 meeting. Also, as a reminder, comments that 1095 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:32,120 include profanity, personal attacks, intimidation, or discriminatory language 1096 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:35,240 which are not persuasive or compelling to the council. 1097 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:39,640 They are not helpful to create a respectful and safe environment. 1098 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:44,040 We will be calling the names in the order of sign-ups. And if you're in 1099 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:48,160 Zoom, please unmute your microphone when your name is called. Each person will 1100 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:53,480 have 2 minutes to, um, and to help uh, make sure that 1101 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:58,120 as many people as possible, uh, can speak during the hour. Anyone in 1102 01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:04,240 person should feel free to come up and stand in line if you so wish. 1103 01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:08,480 Please avoid interruptions so that we so we can use the time for as many people 1104 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:14,400 as possible. If you, uh, reach the 2-minute mark, the host will announce 1105 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:18,400 time and your microphone will be muted. If you need staff assistance in the 1106 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:22,400 room, please raise your hand and someone will be with you. 1107 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:26,800 If you're having technical issues and, you know, if you're online in Zoom, 1108 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:31,680 um, and if you need assistance, you can message staff support and Akshay from 1109 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,880 our staff can assist you. If you are unable to finish your 1110 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:40,120 comment, you can share the rest of your comment via email. You can also mail it 1111 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:45,360 to us or call our office. If you want that contact information, you can visit 1112 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:48,360 slc.gov/council. If you have any handout for the council, 1113 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:52,360 you can lift raise your hand and staff should assist 1114 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:56,120 you to make sure that that makes it to us. 1115 01:22:53,920 --> 01:23:00,400 Isaac, can you begin with our first public comment? 1116 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:05,920 » Yes, first we will be hearing from Anthony Washburn 1117 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:11,440 followed by MJ Powell and then TJ Young. Anthony, you may walk up to speak. 1118 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:16,920 » I think Anthony is not here at the moment. 1119 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,920 Maybe he's in the hallway. 1120 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:28,000 » He's not marked in the registration sheet, so maybe we'll just move on to TJ 1121 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:31,880 Young who does have, I believe, marked there and we can circle back if they 1122 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:35,920 come back. >> Didn't you I think you mentioned MJ 1123 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:40,880 Powell before TJ Young. Sorry for >> Oh, sorry. MJ was also not marked, so I 1124 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,680 assumed he was also not there. In that case, yeah, MJ Powell may walk 1125 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,920 up. >> Yes. 1126 01:23:55,160 --> 01:24:04,240 » Good evening, Salt Lake City residents, members of the mayor's administration, 1127 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:07,520 city council members and staff. My name is MJ Powell and I'm here 1128 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:11,760 tonight to ask for transparency, accountability, and clarity 1129 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:17,040 regarding the Salt Lake City My Brother's Keeper initiative. 1130 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,640 I was directly involved in helping bring My Brother's Keeper to Salt Lake City 1131 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:24,200 and co-led that effort with Ephraim Kum, another former intern of Aaron's 1132 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:29,400 administration, Mayor Mendenhall's administration, respectfully, pardon me. 1133 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,960 I became involved because I deeply I believe deeply in the initiative's 1134 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:35,640 purpose, creating meaningful opportunities, removing barriers, and 1135 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,880 improving outcomes for boys and men young men of color. And this is why I'm 1136 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:42,040 concerned that the public still lacks a clear understanding of what this 1137 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,920 initiative has accomplished and how its success has been measured. When 1138 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:48,640 questions have been raised about the program's direction and the outcomes 1139 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,720 there within, to my city council member of district 1140 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:58,160 three, Chris Wharton, as recorded in prior conversations, 1141 01:24:54,760 --> 01:25:01,600 I have asked for receipts and I've yet to receive them. 1142 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,800 So, tonight I'm simply asking for the facts. 1143 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:08,600 How many young people were served? What measurable outcomes were achieved? How 1144 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:12,360 much funding was allocated and spent and where did those resources go? What 1145 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:16,680 programs, partnerships, and contracts or services were supported? What goals and 1146 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:20,080 metrics were established and what were the actual results? And how was 1147 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:24,200 community input from those who established this initiative incorporated 1148 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:27,680 into its implementation? If the administration believes this effort has 1149 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,640 been successful, then that success should be demonstrated through 1150 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:35,880 transparent reporting and evidence, not simply a designation that the work is 1151 01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:39,680 complete on the mayor's website. The young people this initiative is 1152 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:44,560 created to deserve serve deserve measurable results, pardon me. The young 1153 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:48,240 people this initiative is created to serve deserve measurable results. The 1154 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:52,400 public deserves accountability for public resources and the commitments 1155 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:57,960 made by our elected leaders deserve to be honored and evaluated transparently. 1156 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,960 Thank you. 1157 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,000 And I've emailed you all about this. >> Yes. 1158 01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:06,600 » It's in your inbox. >> Yes. Yes. Anybody can Yes, please. 1159 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:12,200 Next comment. >> Next we'll be hearing from T.J. Young, 1160 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:16,080 followed by Margaret Holloway, and then Nadia 1161 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:16,080 Mataya. 1162 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:23,160 » My name is T.J. Young. I'm a resident of Sugar House and I'm here to talk about 1163 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:27,600 the ICE deportation flights that are happening at Salt Lake International 1164 01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:31,400 Airport. Since July 6th, ICE and Aero have trafficked over 400 friends, 1165 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:35,360 family, and neighbors out of Salt Lake City, away from their families, some 1166 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:39,960 before they can exercise their constitutional right to legal counsel 1167 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:44,040 and receive their due process. I hear the Salt Lake Airport is 1168 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:50,120 partially under your control. I'm here to ask that you install a public webcam 1169 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:55,560 where ICE boards planes to help monitor the safety of these Utah residents as 1170 01:26:52,800 --> 01:27:00,040 they're trafficked away in secrecy. Shine a light on what ICE is doing and 1171 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:04,920 how they're doing it. As they love to say, if you're not doing anything wrong, 1172 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,640 it shouldn't be a problem, right? If there's nothing wrong with 1173 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:11,760 trafficking peaceful, hardworking neighbors who have no criminal record 1174 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:17,440 and shackling them at the hands, waist, and feet, let us see. Install a webcam. 1175 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:21,640 When a loved one is detained by ICE, they just go missing. Their phone is 1176 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:25,720 seized, turned off, and sometimes they don't appear in ICE custody 1177 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:29,160 for up to 18 hours. And when they're in transit, including 1178 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:32,960 aboard an ICE flight, they disappear again, no indication of where they are 1179 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:37,520 or where they're being taken for up to 24 hours, when hopefully they reappear 1180 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:41,320 in the ICE locator. They're trafficked in as short as 3 days 1181 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:44,720 before they can exercise their right to legal representation. 1182 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:48,120 They're taken to detention centers that are currently having hunger strikes over 1183 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:51,240 lack of medical care, overcrowding, spoiled food, not enough food, and dirty 1184 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:55,920 water. This request is not huge, not difficult 1185 01:27:53,440 --> 01:28:00,000 to implement, and not unprecedented. King County, Washington not only has a 1186 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:04,200 publicly viewable webcam that airs ICE flights, they also share updates on 1187 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:07,960 flight schedules in advance. Shine a light, Mayor. Shine a light, 1188 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:11,840 Council. You have an enormous budget allocated to 1189 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:15,600 public safety. This is the public 1190 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:19,760 and this is very much about their safety. 1191 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,760 Thank you for your time. 1192 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:29,680 » Next we'll hear from Margaret Holloway, followed by Naja Mataya, and then Kurt 1193 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,680 Middlestadt. 1194 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,520 » Hey, I learned a lot from >> [clears throat] 1195 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:40,240 » the other discussions tonight, especially about Northwest. 1196 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:43,120 I came to talk about the utility fee 1197 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:47,280 that was not presented, was not told that was coming. 1198 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:50,920 $30 plus a month is a lot of money to take in. The property tax, we heard 1199 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:54,600 about the property tax and that's like $50 a year. 1200 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:58,240 But people that are on limited income, that have gardens, big gardens that 1201 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:02,480 you're trying to help serve and pass out food to other people in the community, 1202 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:05,360 are hitting getting hit hard. This and this is going to go on. I never 1203 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:09,560 would have planted it. I never would have planted it. All my stuff goes up to 1204 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:12,560 the senior center. I don't even take but I think I had two tomatoes out of my 1205 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:16,320 whole patch. But we weren't warned. Why didn't 1206 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:20,160 anybody warn us this was coming? You all knew this was coming. 1207 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:24,160 And you could have started it last year at $15 and said, "Look, this is what's 1208 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:28,400 going to happen." This so people could plan things out. But you didn't do it. 1209 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,560 You just said, "Oh, here it is. Sorry, it's been mismanaged for the last 50 1210 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:35,960 years." We all know that. We all know that. Mayor Jackie tried to straighten 1211 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:40,080 that out, but she didn't stay. Um 1212 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:44,480 but it's just so depressing because it it just makes me have to sell my house, 1213 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:48,520 even that much faster because I can't All my money's invested in my house and 1214 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:50,080 I'm going to have to sell and move out of state. 1215 01:29:50,057 --> 01:29:53,840 » [snorts] >> But you guys didn't tell us and you all 1216 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:58,160 knew. You knew this was coming. 1217 01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:01,920 And I don't understand why you couldn't have told us this because that's a lot 1218 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:07,080 of money every single month. And even if you don't even using it. And 1219 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:12,000 the renters are like and the Airbnbs, okay? I'm so glad Airbnbs complaining 1220 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:15,480 because you guys affordable. You're cramming more and more and more. And 1221 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:18,680 what happens they lease them out to Airbnbs. 1222 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,960 Okay, and you try and crack down on that and I heard Airbnbs upset with the city 1223 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:25,120 over that and I just laughed. The guy says, "Well, I bought it to invest for 1224 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,640 an Airbnb." Sell it to someone who wants to live there for crime and sex. That's 1225 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:33,360 what they're there for. 85% of the houses around Liberty Park are Airbnbs. 1226 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:37,880 If you guys get rid of the Airbnbs, I'm sorry unless they're 8 1227 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,280 » Thank you, Margaret. Thank you, Margaret. 1228 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:48,000 » Next we'll be hearing from Naja Mataya followed by Kurt Middelstadt and then 1229 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:52,480 Anne Canavati. Naja, you may speak. 1230 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:57,680 » Hello, Salt Lake City Council and Mayor Mendenhall. My name is Naja Mataya and 1231 01:30:55,040 --> 01:31:03,040 I'm a lobbying leader from the Wasatch Assembly and we want to thank you, Chris 1232 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:07,800 Wharton, for replying to our uh policy survey for 2026. 1233 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:11,600 We hope to hear from all of you about these policies. 1234 01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:16,760 Um we in the Wasatch Assembly believe that local government should protect its 1235 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:20,080 people and today that I'm here to talk about the immigration policy and 1236 01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:23,640 opposing ICE. ICE has shown itself to be 1237 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:28,320 indiscriminate, violent, and unaccountable to the public as TJ said. 1238 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:33,080 This feeling is shared by more and more people across Utah and America as a 1239 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:37,720 whole. We are encouraged by this body's fight against the 1240 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,280 Salt Lake City Detention Center. This is a big step, 1241 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:44,800 but we need to do more. We have built a list of policies agreed 1242 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:48,280 on by our community on the topic of immigration policy, especially 1243 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:52,000 pertaining to ICE. These are on the pamphlets we have given 1244 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:57,160 to you and we hope that we can find alignment on all of these policies. Of 1245 01:31:54,440 --> 01:32:01,480 the top three, um Salt Lake City Council has already committed to two of them. 1246 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:06,600 Stop ICE facilities from being constructed 1247 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:11,120 and no 287G agreement or municipal resources to ICE. 1248 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:15,760 Um our third pri- prioritized policy is free legal services for constitutional 1249 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:20,200 rights violations. Our citizens need protection against the inevitable 1250 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:23,920 unconstitutional violence of ICE. In general, we want to see municipal 1251 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:29,000 government in Utah be more responsive, visionary, and able to meet the material 1252 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:33,120 needs of the people. As others have said today, Utahns are 1253 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:36,800 suffering from general unaffordability of everything, rollbacks of rights and 1254 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:40,200 protections, and seeing the destruction of the environment 1255 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,880 for the benefit of no one except for the 1%. At such a crucial time, we need 1256 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:48,400 municipal leaders who will take action to improve the lives of people and the 1257 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:51,720 protection of the environment and to take action even when it pushes against 1258 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:54,640 the state. As we seen 1259 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,400 » Thank you. >> Thank you so much. 1260 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:06,800 » Next, we'll hear from Kurt Mittelstadt, followed by Ann Canada, and then Olive 1261 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,800 PJ. 1262 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,760 » Hi Council. Thank you for your time tonight. My 1263 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:19,040 name's Kurt Mittelstadt. Um I'm also a member of the Wasatch Assembly. Um I'm 1264 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:24,000 here today because I firmly believe that um there needs to be accountability for 1265 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:27,680 ICE as well as policy reform um at all levels of government. I think starting 1266 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:32,640 at the local level. Um I also, like my wife just said, want 1267 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:37,320 to recognize, thank the Council um for joining the fight against um the 1268 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:41,560 proposed detention center. And appreciate the city taking a stand 1269 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:45,760 against the expansion of ICE infrastructure in our community. 1270 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:50,040 Um We, the Wasatch Assembly, are asking 1271 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:53,640 Salt Lake City to adopt policies that protect residents from immigration 1272 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:58,880 enforcement, federal immigration enforcement, and prevent city resources 1273 01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:04,200 from being used to facilitate it. Um some of my top priorities of uh the 1274 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:07,560 Assembly's agenda are um mostly centered around accountability, requiring 1275 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:12,880 judicial warrants before city facilities, records, databases, or other 1276 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:16,720 resources are accessed for um federal immigration enforcement except where 1277 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:20,680 access or disclosures are otherwise legally required. 1278 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:24,920 Um holding a public hearing on ICE and its impact on Salt Lake City residents. 1279 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:28,440 Um and requiring city departments to publicly report their interactions with 1280 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:32,800 ICE and other federal immigration authorities, including requests for 1281 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:36,680 information, records, access, or assistance. 1282 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:40,520 Um as you know, I'm sure you're elected to represent the people 1283 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:46,480 um who live here. We're here as those people asking you to listen, uh respond, 1284 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,480 and act. Thank you. 1285 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:57,560 » Next, we'll hear from Anne Canada, followed by Olive PJ, and then Kayla 1286 01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:03,200 Medina. >> Hi, MD2 Wasatch Assembly representative. 1287 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:07,000 You've heard the various policies. We've sent them to your inboxes, so I'll not 1288 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:11,760 belabor that point. What I will speak to is our need to build a stronger 1289 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:15,720 municipal pub- uh politic in Utah. As the capital city 1290 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:19,760 and economic hub of Utah, we have power and leverage, 1291 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:23,160 both political and economic. I want to see the city wield it to build a 1292 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:27,040 municipal political movement against ICE and for immigration. 1293 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:30,200 Silently moving in back rooms does not help build our community's confidence in 1294 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:34,200 this body. People are begging for authenticity and 1295 01:35:32,440 --> 01:35:38,280 engagement. This body needs to start thinking in 1296 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:41,600 strategic and populist terms. The Wasatch Assembly is trying to build 1297 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:47,680 that political movement, and we'd love for you to for you to join it. 1298 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:51,360 But we must be brave and take risks. Nothing profound has ever come from 1299 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:55,280 being safe. Our community wants you to take risks to 1300 01:35:53,280 --> 01:36:00,200 expose the Republican Party for the sham it is, make moments to highlight the 1301 01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:03,280 economic contradictions. Start meeting the needs of the community 1302 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:08,160 you serve. Even the needs that the supermajority 1303 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:11,480 does not want to hear. The civil rights movement was created 1304 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:14,600 under the supermajority tyranny of red states. 1305 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:20,040 There is no excuse for this body to not help us in leading the charge to change 1306 01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:23,920 in creating a new Utah, a better Utah, a more free and prosperous Utah, a more 1307 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:29,720 just Utah. We need to leave no strategic stone 1308 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:33,960 unturned. Dream of what a pro-immigrant city looks like, what it looks like to 1309 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:37,200 welcome dreamers from across the world, what it looks like to build an 1310 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:41,000 ethnically diverse culture, what it looks like to protect our immigrant 1311 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:46,200 community from a fascist federal branch and a hateful legislature. People are 1312 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:48,960 growing tired of a politic of hate. Are you willing to step up and be the 1313 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:53,200 movement leaders we need on the municipal level? 1314 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,200 I hope you all are. 1315 01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:07,560 » Next, we'll hear from Olive PJ, who is online, followed by Kale Akina, and then 1316 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:11,760 Brent Stevenson. Olive, you may unmute. 1317 01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:16,920 » Can you hear me now? >> Hello. I am speaking tonight or here 1318 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:23,240 today, I guess, to express my frustration with the city, 1319 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:27,360 uh the mayor and the council, uh between arrest ICE arrests at Matheson Matheson 1320 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:31,680 Courthouse, uh ICE flights out of Salt Lake City 1321 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:37,240 International Airport, um a lack of overall transparency, and 1322 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:42,160 what appears to be sort of a stalling, you know, no more 1323 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:48,480 forward movement in the fight against ICE. 1324 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:52,280 Uh and then, more broadly, um, the over-policing of our homeless 1325 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:58,920 population, the lack of social safety net for 1326 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:04,680 everyone living in Salt Lake City, um, the lack of care and dignity of of 1327 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:11,040 equitable, uh, medical treatment, um, cooling 1328 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:16,840 centers, just across the board, uh, your constituents are being failed, 1329 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:23,040 especially if they have any sort of marginalization, 1330 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:29,520 um, and it's just it's so frustrating, uh, coming to these meetings, uh, and 1331 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:33,440 being told to, um, avoid swearing, to speak 1332 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:38,920 kindly, to remain calm, to not express frustration or appreciation when someone 1333 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:44,600 says something that we agree with, um, with all the photo ops and with the 1334 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:49,840 policing of our speech, it feels like the city cares more about its 1335 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:54,720 reputation, uh, as a 1336 01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:58,720 progressive hub than actually serving, 1337 01:38:56,200 --> 01:39:03,920 uh, the people, the identities, the communities that they claim to love and 1338 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:09,760 seem to want the clout of uh, championing championing, um, just across 1339 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:12,480 the board, you need to do more and you need to 1340 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:15,440 just stop being like this. 1341 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:27,200 » Next, we'll hear Sorry. Next, we will hear from 1342 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:33,880 Kylie Akina, followed by Brent Stevenson, and then Matilda Wep. 1343 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,880 Kylie, you may now unmute. 1344 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:43,200 » Hello. My name is Kylie Akina. I'm a resident of Salt Lake City. 1345 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:48,320 City Council can implement um, legislation to resist ICE expansion um, 1346 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:52,240 apart from just the new facility that we've been able to stop. So, thank you 1347 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:55,160 for that. We can continue forward. I'm urging this council to prioritize 1348 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,080 meetings with many of the attending residents as well and prioritize 1349 01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:04,240 accountability processes in response to human rights violations enacted by ICE 1350 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:08,000 agents and appropriating city budgets uh, to the rehabilitation of impacted 1351 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,640 survivors. Members of the Wasatch Assembly and multiple SLC residents have 1352 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:15,360 brought you clear a clear set of demands developed by the people in our community 1353 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:19,200 and I'd like to echo that while ICE may be a federal agency, the consequences of 1354 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:23,440 their actions are local. So, dozens of uh, Salt Lake City 1355 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:27,840 residents um, have also been violently mishandled, racially profiled, do not 1356 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:30,920 have adequate access to medical care, cannot reach their family members and 1357 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:35,160 often elders and children are left unattended to 1358 01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:37,760 uh, with no clarity um, or foresight as to what will happen be happening to 1359 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:41,000 their family members. So, local government has choices about 1360 01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:45,240 whether it helps ICE by allowing violations without ability, ignores ICE 1361 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:49,040 um, and your neighbors to whom you are accountable to 1362 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:52,240 um, or actively protects its residents from these abuses. 1363 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:56,000 I'm again urging Salt Lake City Council to implement the following, provide 1364 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,360 legal services free legal services for city residents whose constitutional 1365 01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:02,760 rights are violated by federal immigration enforcement, require 1366 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:06,720 judicial warrants before city facilities, records, databases and other 1367 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:10,840 city resources are accessed for federal immigration enforcement except where 1368 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:15,600 access or disclosure is otherwise legally required, pass a resolution 1369 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:19,000 calling for the abolition of ICE and require city departments to publicly 1370 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:22,120 report their interactions with ICE and other federal immigration authorities 1371 01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:26,960 including requests for information, records, access or assistance. 1372 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:30,400 Um, you are the elected to represent the 1373 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:35,040 people who live here regardless of their backgrounds. So, thank you for upholding 1374 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,040 that. 1375 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:47,200 » Next we'll be hearing from Brent Stevenson, followed by Matilda Webb. 1376 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,200 Brent, you may unmute. 1377 01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:53,360 » Hello, my name is Brent. I'd like to make comment on the short-term rental 1378 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:57,240 ordinance, specifically in legal zones with some real-world context. First off, 1379 01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:01,760 um we've had multiple dates reported to us for licensing requirements. We were 1380 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:06,520 told we had to comply by July 1st. That was postponed to August 8th. That was 1381 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:11,680 then moved up to July 23rd. It continues to move. For STRs with HOAs, that's 1382 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:17,240 putting the HOAs in a difficult spot, seemingly needing them to seek their own 1383 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:21,120 legal counsel for a poorly and hastily written bill with many flaws and 1384 01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:24,440 oversights. I want to call attention again to how hastily this was put 1385 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:28,080 together. There's evidence of this by a recent grammar email report, and in the 1386 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,520 working session last month, when the council challenged the creators of the 1387 01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:35,120 ordinance for the work logic that went into the requirements, such as the 10% 1388 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:39,560 allowance in multi- family unit buildings, the 200-day 1389 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:43,120 maximum, etc. Without exception, the ordinance creators, including their 1390 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:47,480 legal counsel, could not support their logic or provide any detail around how 1391 01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:51,480 these requirements were put together. That working session concluded keeping 1392 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:56,000 the ordinance intact as is, with the council asking that ordinance team to 1393 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:59,520 come back with data supporting the with real-world use cases. 1394 01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:02,840 This is a clear conflict of interest. That team is now incentivized to come 1395 01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:07,000 back with predetermined findings with 1396 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:10,560 evidence as compared to using evidence to inform their findings and the 1397 01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:14,440 ordinance in turn. I'm worried that the considerable lack of due diligence, 1398 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:18,360 public hearings, formal studies, etc. are being glossed over for ulterior 1399 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:22,680 motives to effectively shut down short-term rentals in Salt Lake. 1400 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:26,480 Uh on the 10% cap on multi-family buildings, I need to comment that 1401 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:29,320 condominiums are not considered multi-family because they're 1402 01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:33,480 individually owned and managed. They're most commonly looked at as single-family 1403 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:37,040 homes. This is well-established in cities like Denver and Seattle. The 1404 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:41,400 precedent has been set avoiding lawsuits and penalties. This was even confirmed 1405 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:45,360 by Arturo Garcia over email on June 25th, but the city continues to 1406 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:50,840 flip-flop asking for positive enforcement and an ordinance revision 1407 01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,840 for condominiums. Thank you. 1408 01:43:53,240 --> 01:44:00,440 » Finally, we will hear from Matilda Webb who is here online. And after that, we 1409 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:03,960 have nobody else registered to speak. Matilda, you may unmute. 1410 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:12,160 » Hi, my name is Matilda Webb and I'm a resident here in Salt Lake City. And I 1411 01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:16,240 just wanted to um comment towards uh the City Council and their 1412 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:22,880 lack of stance seemingly um on ice. I have uh 1413 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:27,880 the fortune of working with a lot of youth in our community and I'm seeing 1414 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:33,720 more and more often children that have no idea where their parents are, are 1415 01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:38,120 unable to locate their parents, um and often times case workers that also are 1416 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:44,520 unable to locate parents or give their children any sort of um real answers. 1417 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:49,520 And it is heartbreaking and frustrating. And I would love to see um our City 1418 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:53,320 Council step up and be more vocal about um 1419 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:57,880 the way that our community is being treated and the way our citizens are 1420 01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:03,360 being treated. I would love for them to be an example for for our children and 1421 01:45:00,440 --> 01:45:06,160 our youth in how you stand up for others and look out and care for your 1422 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:10,720 community. Uh 1423 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:15,840 I I I appreciate the the words that that are spoken during these meetings and the 1424 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:21,000 sentiments and the photo ops and you know, we're out here building our 1425 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:26,200 community, but that that's not what what we're actually seeing out every 1426 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:30,040 day. And I would just love to have more um 1427 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:35,680 more action taken by City Council. Um, I don't have the the cheat in front of me, 1428 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:39,960 but I absolutely agree with everything that the Wasatch Assembly is doing and 1429 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:44,200 saying and the things that they are asking. I would be thrilled to see even 1430 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:48,960 one of those things being taken seriously by our City Council 1431 01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:53,640 um, and I would love to see our youth grow grow more into uh, community 1432 01:45:51,920 --> 01:46:00,360 building as well. But, having the leaders in front of them 1433 01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,360 show them how that looks. Thank you. 1434 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:08,280 » Thank you for all of those that commented or 1435 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:12,040 participating in the meeting. Uh, thank you everyone. Um, 1436 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:18,560 this concludes the Salt Lake City Council meeting for today. 1437 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:18,560 Um, and this meeting stands adjourned. 1438 01:46:22,393 --> 01:46:24,413 » [music]