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Okay, everyone. We're going to call this

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meeting in order. This is going to

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follow the same guidelines as a city

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council meeting. It is a city council

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meeting. So, we're going to call it

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together at it's roughly 5:30, 5:32

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on um April 22nd. I want to go over some

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of the ground rules first. As everybody

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knows, we're going to conduct this and

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we've had great meetings before with

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lots of questions, but we do have um

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marshalss and PD here and if somebody

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gets um out of order, we will probably

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give one warning. If not, ask them to

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leave immediately. Um I don't anticipate

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to be that a problem. It's never been a

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problem in nine years. Uh, number two, I

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think we set this for 300 people tonight

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and it looks like it's going to be full.

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And the order of the presentation

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tonight will be Aaron Venoi will get up

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and talk about some zoning. He's going

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to have roughly 30 something slides that

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I think covers we're having an argument

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within staff. We think it's going to

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cover nearly 80% of the questions that

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come out as far as guidelines and

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what's say protection and what we want

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to see that protects the neighborhood.

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Um after that I will get up and do a

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discussion with two gentlemen here from

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emergent skybox.

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After that concludes we will move into

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um public comment which will be handled

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the exact same way as we do at council.

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You'll be allowed three minutes to talk

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at public comment. There will be no

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rebuttal from council. And at the end of

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that, I will I will say uh couple of the

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people here from Skybox and Emergent

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have said when the meeting is over,

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we're not in any hurry to run away if

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somebody has some questions. It won't be

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done from the stage, but they're they're

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not going to run out and hide if

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somebody has something they want to ask.

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long public comment goes. If somebody

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wants that opportunity, keep that in

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mind. Um, another thing I want to point

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out and in, uh, if you haven't seen this

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already, there's been a petition

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submitted for my recall as mayor. I just

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think everybody needs to know that one

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up front. Um, anyway, that one's out

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there. I think I got notified of it

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yesterday at 5:00, so that's out. But

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with that, I want to go ahead and bring

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up Aaron Venoi.

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And Aaron heads up our planning and

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development services, the whole thing

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that we're going to talk about. And

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y'all have seen Aaron lots of times. So,

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let's give Aaron a hand and turn it over

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to him. [applause]

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» Good evening everyone. Thank you, Mayor,

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City Council. Uh we're going to go over

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the zoning items that we've come up for

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um what some people call protections,

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restrictions, regulations, but items

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within our zoning ordinance that we're

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proposing to city council to adopt as

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our ordinances for data centers within

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the city limits.

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current ordinance, we do not have any

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restrictions for data centers. We heard

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from the citizens that they would like

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to have some say in what goes on. So in

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the zoning ordinance, the process to do

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that is through a conditional use.

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with. Uh we do conditional uses for lots

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of different things from short-term

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rentals to household living in

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commercial places and things like that.

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conditional use process that would allow

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data centers in the light manufacturing

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I've got a couple of slides to show you

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where the majority of those are within

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our city. They would follow section 208

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of our current zoning ordinance, which

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is the section for conditional uses on

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how someone would apply, the process for

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review, and the process for planning

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commission to go through. that is a

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public meeting that does get public

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notice for those items and that means

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the public can come and comment on those

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items at at the planning commission. The

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planning commission has the option to

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approve or deny. If they approve, we

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have some regulations, design guidelines

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that we have within our zoning ordinance

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that we're going to ask to adopt that

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they would need to follow. If they get

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denied, it could be appealed to city

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council and then city council gets to

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make that decision. There is also

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processes that through the conditional

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uses that other folks can appeal that

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process and take it to city council for

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an ultimate vote.

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maps, if you look at the blue and the

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light blue areas, those are the light

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manufacturing and the heavy

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manufacturing areas. This is kind of the

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northeast portion of town where 67 uh

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comes in and 277 comes in and joins in

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right there. Goes by Howard College,

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splits off to 306. It goes to the south

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to 87 and then splits also here and

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comes along as Houston Hart Freeway. One

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of the things that I want y'all to

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notice is that along our railroad, you

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can see lots of properties are usually

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zoned light manufacturing and heavy

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manufacturing along our railroads as

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well as our major transportation areas

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because that's where things are

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produced. They're shipped out or shipped

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in. Uh and so that's usually where light

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manufacturing, heavy manufacturing are.

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those are residential areas. Oranges are

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residential. And then when you get to

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the pinks and the reds, those are

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commercial or heavy commercial areas.

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you have Bryant that comes in here. So,

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a major corridor comes in through here,

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comes in there. There are some areas.

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happen right in this area that are along

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the uh spur line and the railroad. And

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downtown you can start seeing the area

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that is along the railroad and the

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highway that has some manufacturing

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see that rail line that kind of goes

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right through the middle. Lots of areas

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of of manufacturing around there. And

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then of course as our evolution of our

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city has grown and we gained a good

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fellow air force base in this area below

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and a major thoroughare with Chadburn

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coming out this way again areas of

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manufacturing um start to grow. And then

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our far south part of town where

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Christovala Road and the interchange is

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there before 277 heads south you can see

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some more light manufacturing.

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data center as a primary land use could

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apply for a conditional use. Asking the

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city, can we put a data center there?

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that are there. They are not allowed by

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right. That would be our proposal to

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definitions, we are asking that there

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would be no cryptocurrency mining

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allowed with a data center use.

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have data centers in town right now that

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are lots of facilities use them from our

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hospitals, offices, campuses. There are

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data centers in town. Data centers have

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been around for 40 plus years um and

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been around in St. Angelo for that long.

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primary land uses. That's just a data

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center. Those are the ones that we would

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choose to regulate or have rules for in

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our community. We have some rules for

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generator yards. You know, the

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equipment, the fuel tanks, the

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associated equipment, [snorts] and also

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what does it mean to have a private

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utility? If they needed secondary power,

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we would have rules on on how they would

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be able to accomplish that private

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utility that's not a public utility

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that's owned by a political subdivision

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like the city water department. That's a

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political subdivision. This would be

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where they would be able to own their

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own types of utilities on their

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properties.

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application process, we've gone through

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and we've looked at ordinances from all

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over the country from Virginia to many

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cities within the state of Texas. Uh

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there's about five ordinances in the

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state of Texas that deal with data

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centers. And we tried to pull the things

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that what we heard from citizens, from

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consultants, from other city folks that

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we've talked to around the state. What

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is it that concerns your citizen and

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concerns you that we need some kind of

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protection for? So when they submit this

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conditional use, they have to give these

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plans to the city to put in the packet

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so that planning commissioners and the

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public can see those things. It comes

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with what we call normally call a site

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plan, but it's something that has the

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building location with all the setbacks.

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ground mounted equipment. So those

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generators and fuel tanks, where are

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they going to be located on site?

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Parking, driveways, that traffic

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circulation in and around the facility.

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pedestrian routes, where are those going

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to be? A traffic impact analysis, both

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during construction and after they get

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operated. We know that data centers,

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large data centers, they operate

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different once they're under when

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they're under construction and then once

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they turn over to operation, they

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operate slightly different. Fencing,

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landscaping, screening, how are we doing

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those protections of vision, heat,

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noise, those types of things. And

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fencing, landscaping, screening are part

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of those lights and phototric items. if

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they have large lights that are high up

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above, how does that light spill off of

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their property, a sound study, um, and

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we'll get more into that in depth in

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just a little bit, building elevations

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and materials and signage. So, there's a

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lot of things that they have to turn

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into us for an application before they

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can actually get going with any kind of

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development process.

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building height maximum height of 75 ft.

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they go above or then they have to go 10

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ft back from the property line. So the

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standard de uh setback is 50 ft from the

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property line.

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75 ft. So they could be even a little

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bit further back if they chose to go to

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that maximum height. If you have

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things like that or maybe an office

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building, uh, whatever it may be, then

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they they can be as close as 30 ft to

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the property line depending on what type

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of equipment it is. If it's a noise

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making equipment like a generator, we

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may have some things to to ask them to

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say, hey, we want to move that to a

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different location.

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setbacks between different land uses and

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zoning. It was very clear that through

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our planning commission and citizens

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that we wanted to protect our

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neighborhoods

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inside and outside of the city limits.

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So we had proposed some different

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distances. This is a compromise that we

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had come up to 200 ft setback from any

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property line that's adjacent to a

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residential use or a residence of any

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kind. So even if it's farmland and

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there's a farmhouse out there, they've

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got to be 200 feet on their side of the

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property before they can build any kind

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of structure. So that's a 200 foot

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buffer around a property.

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So if you look at this site here and for

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scale, this is a very large site. If you

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that

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um property line on the right, that's

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over 7,000 linear feet. the property

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line along this is highway 67 is the

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gray line along Highway 67 that's over

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5200 linear feet. So a very large large

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site 350 plus acres

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you can just see

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it's a lot easier up here where there's

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not the the background information but

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that's 200 ft buffer between that red

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property line and where they could start

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building a structure if these rules are

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implemented through our city council.

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You can see that goes all the way on

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this perimeter of this as if this was

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all residential around them. So that's

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how that would work for there. On a

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commercial property, we would lower that

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down to 50 ft if it's commercial or

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industrial because those are very

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similar uses that they could be closer

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together.

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There's also buffers created by streets,

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driveways, and parking as well as

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landscaping.

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So again, the commercial setback is 50

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ft.

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Groundmounted equipment that's adjacent

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to residential property, we're asking

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for that same 200 ft. So you've got 200

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feet of buffering between there. If

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there's another, say there's a local

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street, we're asking that there's at

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least a 25 ft landscape buffer in there

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before they start having uh things that

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are part of their property going on. If

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it's an arterial or collector, that's a

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classification of road. So, Highway 67

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is an arterial. They would have to be at

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least 40 feet back with a 40 foot

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landscape area. And if they just have

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pavement on the side or the rear yards,

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it would be 15 ft back from the property

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line.

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Here's just another sample site. Uh this

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is off of FM 380. Um, we envisioned this

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one just just because we know the zoning

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right here is light manufacturing. This

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is also light manufacturing. This is in

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the ETJ, which means it's outside the

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city limits.

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And so we did a 50-ft buffer, a 50-ft buffer, and then a 200

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foot buffer. And that would be their

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area in which they could build

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something.

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So that's again looking at large sites.

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How do these sites get constructed? What

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are those buffers and things like that?

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So we try to do just a sample one.

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Again, you see that building in the

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middle, you see a parking lot, you see a

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roadway, you see the setbacks. Now,

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envision all of this area that would

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have some kind of required landscaping,

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whether that's trees, shrubs, or natural

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habitat that we have in West Texas that

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sometimes can be even more dense than

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just trees and shrubs as you go along.

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But that again is to help mitigate some

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of those issues that could be presented

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from heat, noise, sight, sound, all of

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those types of things.

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Landscaping became very important to us

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uh as we were looking at this and and

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people think landscaping of just as as

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aesthetics. How does it look? While

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there is something about how do we

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protect one of our major corridors if

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it's on 67, how does that look for

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people coming to St. Angelo? We also

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know that there's lots of other benefits

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to landscaping from erosion control,

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storm water runoff to cooling islands in

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big parking lots and along large

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buildings uh to breaking up the sight

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line as you're driving by and you're

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picking up the landscape instead of a

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large building. Um we know that uh

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through lots of different studies from

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many many years it improves air quality,

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reduces heat, um helps prevent flooding,

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[snorts] uh also pred helps um block

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wind and provide shade and it's that

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phyto remediation which also helps the

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soil from different toxins. There's a

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reason why certain plants do very very

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well with that and trees function as a

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sound barrier.

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So in one of our examples within our

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ordinance that we're proposing is a 40ft

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landscape buffer. You can see on there are mature trees which are the

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large circles. Then there are smaller

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trees that are the smaller uh circles

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that are shrubs. And 40 ft you can start

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getting this kind of clustering of

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trees. So there's just not a big long

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line of trees and you just drive by and

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you just see tree. You start getting a

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clustering of the of the different

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trees.

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If you do a 25- foot separation, they

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start to spread out a little bit more or

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they become more linear because the 25

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ft and a mature tree, you don't have as

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much canopy space as you would in other

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areas. And again, you can see with the

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medium trees, you can still cluster

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those. And then on a 15t wide buffer,

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again, it's going to be fairly linear.

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you're going to have so many trees so

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many feet apart and you would probably

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plant those in to keep that um that

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buffer line through there.

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So in town, do we have anything like

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that? Well, we do out at the uh

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Chapperel Park uh out on 67 already. You

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can see that these live oaks here, you

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can see 67 behind them, the new portion

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that they've built that Texot built in

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the last few years. Still fairly high

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speeds through there that drops down to

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65 miles an hour. These trees are over

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50 feet apart and they're also over

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right at uh 40 feet from the uh paving

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surface. And you can see that they have

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this nice linear shape going through

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there. You're picking those trees up as

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you're driving through. It's blocking

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some of the noise and things that would

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be coming from either the street onto

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that property or even from the property

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going off to the street. And you can

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just see in there they have some

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clustered small things from yuckas to

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pampas grass and some other things in

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there um to break up just that linear

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look of the landscape.

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This is along one of their side streets,

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a minor street, just a regular uh

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street, not a highway. Again, those

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trees are spread out a little bit

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further, but looking at our West Texas

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land, West Texas landscape, live oaks do

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fairly well once they get established.

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they are a

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dense cover. They're evergreen and they

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help uh provide protection year round.

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So again, not just do we require

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landscaping, we also gave them the

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option of creating a natural buffer zone

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of 40 ft if they didn't want to plant

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trees that we're going to have a 40ft

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buffer zone. And so you go back to that

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first one that had a very wide um area

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here where this is a 40ft buffer zone,

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but now think of that as all natural

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habitat with some live oaks that are

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natural with mosquite trees that might

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be natural from the other plants and

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density that you can get with some of

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those plants in our natural uh state.

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Now, if you're planting in a cotton

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field or a wheat field, you're probably

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you're going to have to do the

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landscaping. But if you're going to a

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site that's got a mosquite pasture

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that's got mature mosquetses, this might

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be an option for them.

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Other items that we're uh including into

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um the ordinance is making sure that

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they have enough parking spaces but not

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an overage of parking spaces, not a sea

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of parking spaces because once they get

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into operation, they're not going to

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have thousands of employees. They may

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have a hundred employees or so. It just

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depends on the data center, the size,

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and what's going on. But we don't need

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all that parking creating storm water

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runoff once they're done. Uh again,

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ground mounted equipment, generators,

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and things, those must be screened with

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masonry walls. Rooftop equipment must be

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visually screened. Um fencing, fencing

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is can be masonry, rowd iron or black

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PVC coated. And again, it needs to be

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along the the street frontage. Could be

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masonry or rot iron. Excuse

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[clears throat] me. If it's not along

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the frontage, it could go to that PVC

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coated depending on how far it is. And

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you think about the linear distance of

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7,000 ft on that first one of those

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images I showed you. That's a lot of

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fencing. That's over a mile of fencing

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to put on one one property side if they

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chose to. Fencing is going to be up to

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the discretion of the planning

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commission. If it's against residential

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areas, they're going to want an opaque

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fence potentially. Uh if it's along

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industrial or other commercial areas, it

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may not need to be an opaque fence, and

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they may be able to fill in with the

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landscaping. If they have super parking

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lots, we're going to ask for landscape

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islands to create some shade islands.

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And then any lighting that's on the

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property is going to be shielded,

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pointed downwards,

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excuse [clears throat] me, not to exceed

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30 feet in height. And then the the

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lighting on the building uh is to be not

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at such a a super height. If you've got

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a 50-ft building, you don't need to have

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lights up at 50 ft to shine down on the

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walkways. You need that lighting to come

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down so it reduces the light spillover.

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We've also placed and it was requested

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through um I think one of our

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educational meetings with city council

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about requiring the the lumens to be set

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at a dark sky lumens. And so that's in

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there as well.

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noise.

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Currently, we're going to request noise

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to be kind of at two different decibb, a

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daytime and nighttime. It could be that

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that's changed to just one decel across

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the board. Um, but the maximum sound

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levels that we would request is 60 dB at

540
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,559
daytime and that's measured at the

541
00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:44,400
property line. And I found just the a 60

542
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,720
dB is roughly equivalent to a normal

543
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440
conversation or typical background

544
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,080
noises in an office, a restaurant or a

545
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,559
quiet suburban neighborhood.

546
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,799
At nighttime when most of us are

547
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:58,640
probably getting ready to go to bed or

548
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280
in bed, we want it just a little bit

549
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,799
quieter. Again, 55 dB. While that number

550
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:06,480
doesn't look that much, but when you're

551
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,799
dealing with decb

552
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,240
a significant difference. Uh 55 is

553
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,320
considered moderate and generally

554
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,360
comfortable similar to a quiet office, a

555
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,760
humming refrigerator or a moderate

556
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840
rainfall.

557
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,440
And again, these are measured at the

558
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,600
property lines.

559
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,400
There was citizen concerns about the low

560
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,840
frequency or humming noises. And so we

561
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,440
have this proposed in our ordinance that

562
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440
there's some different octave bands and

563
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480
frequencies and things like that. Um,

564
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,240
and a lot of the a lot of the times that

565
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,120
we see this, we've never seen this at at

566
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,039
data centers, but the research shows

567
00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,919
that there are sometimes whether it's a

568
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:52,480
large generator, power generator, and

569
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,960
the electrical engine has got a certain

570
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,360
tune to it. They can come in and retune

571
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,200
that engine just a little bit and bring

572
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,400
that vibration down. Uh again, these low

573
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,080
hums and vibrations on this scale uh

574
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,320
would not be able to pass beyond the the

575
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,149
property line.

576
00:23:12,159 --> 00:23:14,080
And then this is our last slide for our

577
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,360
zoning ordinance and then I'm going to

578
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,880
transition into a couple of other

579
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,480
things.

580
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,320
Zoning is not the best place to regulate

581
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,799
water and wastewater. In fact, the state

582
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:28,960
of Texas under code 212 mentioned

583
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,039
doesn't mention water specifically, but

584
00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:32,880
it does not say that we can regulate it

585
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,120
in zoning. So, we have adopted many

586
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,480
years ago um utility ordinances, and

587
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,880
that's where we're going to regulate

588
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280
water consumption and wastewater

589
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,120
discharges. And I'll get to that in just

590
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,960
a minute. But we are asking to add into

591
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,679
our zoning ordinance to add these two

592
00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:57,440
clauses that would say hey don't forget

593
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,440
you need to follow our utility ordinance

594
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,640
as well because most development starts

595
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520
with zoning then site development they

596
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,960
come to our ordinances and said all

597
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,559
right what's the zoning and they look at

598
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,640
this and they say oh I need to follow

599
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,880
that also so that's why we're asking for

600
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,520
that to be there

601
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,440
so now we're going to transition out of

602
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480
the zoning ordinance into the utility

603
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,080
ordinance.

604
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,679
So again, the utility ordinance, if

605
00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,760
you're looking at it, it's chapter 11 in

606
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,760
our code of ordinances.

607
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,440
Uh and we will have all this stuff

608
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,200
online for you to look up as well.

609
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,880
So

610
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,640
in the utility ordinance, we're

611
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960
proposing to add this for purposes of

612
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,360
this article, we would use the same data

613
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:42,960
center definitions in the zoning

614
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,520
ordinance into the utility ordinance. So

615
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,760
it's like for like. So there's no

616
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,159
confusion.

617
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:52,480
We would also add that all data center

618
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,720
facilities shall employ closed loop

619
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,200
cooling systems or similar cooling

620
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,559
technology which minimizes water use and

621
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:02,799
eliminates the need for continuous

622
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:04,960
withdrawals from the city's public water

623
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,159
supply for heat rejection. So, their

624
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:11,200
cooling system has to be something that

625
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
is closed, has to be something that

626
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,760
minimizes the water use so that they're

627
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,720
not continuously drawing large volumes

628
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
of water.

629
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,480
And then we get even a little more

630
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
specific. And this is a very heavy

631
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,640
slide, but I'm going to read through the

632
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,360
whole thing for you. So when it talks

633
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,840
about the cooling water allowances and

634
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,400
we're talking about the initial fill,

635
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,240
this is exact wording from the

636
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,799
ordinance. The initial cooling system

637
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,640
fill shall not exceed 15 um not 15 well

638
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,679
15 gallons per uh square foot of gross

639
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:49,039
building area as defined in the approved

640
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,080
building permit for each data center

641
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,600
building.

642
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,679
Initial fill shall occur within the 12

643
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,679
months of the building receiving a

644
00:25:57,679 --> 00:25:59,520
certificate of occupancy. So they have

645
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,760
they got a certificate of an occupancy.

646
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000
They can fill it up to 15 gallons per

647
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,039
square foot of gross building floor area

648
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,520
and they have 12 months to do that to

649
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320
operate it. If they have a scheduled

650
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,880
maintenance refill, they can fill the

651
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600
cooling system uh the full the full

652
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,880
Excuse me. I'm going to take a drink of

653
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,990
water for just a second.

654
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Sorry about that. So, the full cooling

655
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240
system drain and refill not to exceed

656
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
the initial fill volume may occur for

657
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,279
each data center building at intervals

658
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,080
no more no more frequent than once every

659
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,360
3 years. operator shall provide the city

660
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,279
utilities director with 30 days written

661
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:46,960
notice of when this is going to be

662
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,120
scheduled and the draining shall comply

663
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,919
with all TCU requirements and other

664
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:54,960
applicable law.

665
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520
the annual makeup water. So on an annual

666
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000
basis, routine cooling system makeup

667
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,200
water to replace minor losses from valve

668
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,919
packing, gasket weepage, maintenance

669
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:08,000
drains, those type of things shall not

670
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,720
exceed 3%

671
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,880
of the total installed cooling loop

672
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520
volume per data center building per

673
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,400
calendar year.

674
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480
So that is that's the restrictions that

675
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,919
we're proposing for wa for water usage

676
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:28,310
from the city's water supply.

677
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,039
Additional exempt water uses. These

678
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,960
would be things that if things if bad

679
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,400
things happen, we want them to use

680
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,799
water. So fire suppression system fill,

681
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,360
we want them to fill that up. During the

682
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,760
construction phase, we want them to use

683
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520
water for dust control. So that

684
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520
mitigates some issues. um as well as for

685
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,000
concrete curing and hydrostatic testing.

686
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,600
So while they're doing their foundations

687
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,360
and their tilt walls that they're able

688
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,679
to utilize water for that site

689
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:57,600
landscaping, but it's limited to drought

690
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,840
tolerant zeroscape plantings. that's

691
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,840
consistent with the city's uh water

692
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,640
conservation plan and they are required

693
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,000
they would be required to use

694
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,799
droughtresistant plantings

695
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,799
and they could use reclaimed or recycled

696
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:12,720
water obtained from the city's reclaimed

697
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,120
water system when available for any of

698
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,360
those purposes. So they might be able to

699
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,679
utilize reclaimed water not just the

700
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:23,029
fresh water.

701
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,480
And the last thing that we have for

702
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,320
water consumption is if they exceed what

703
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,039
happens in that first section. So if you

704
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,399
have uh first they have to notify 48

705
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:36,640
hours of an event to the water utilities

706
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,960
director. Why did it happen? What was

707
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200
the cause? What was the volume? What was

708
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960
the duration? How much water are we

709
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,200
talking about here that we that's gone

710
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,640
that now we have to refill. The approval

711
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200
to refill comes down to the city manager

712
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,080
or their design and they have five days

713
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320
to approve or deny. They look at our

714
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,480
water situation and say, "All right,

715
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,159
what is the best situation for the city

716
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:03,120
of St. Angelo at this time? Do we

717
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,200
approve them using additional water or

718
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,320
do we deny them using additional water?"

719
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,039
there is an emergency exception as if

720
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:12,960
there's imminent risk to facility

721
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,240
equipment or personnel and then they

722
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,000
need to document and notify the city

723
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,200
within 72 hours of that incident. Um

724
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,679
more than likely our some of our city

725
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:25,600
team is going to be responding to those

726
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600
imminent dangers and so that's probably

727
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,760
going to be known and passed on very quickly.

728
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,760
So, those are what we're proposing in

729
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,159
the water utilities area for the water

730
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:39,200
systems for using water. Now, I'm going

731
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,279
to go over uh a couple of slides that

732
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,600
talk about the waste water or the sewage

733
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200
that comes from the facility.

734
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,799
So currently in our wastewater or sewage

735
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,159
water uh systems ordinance there are

736
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:56,480
currently prohibited discharges and this

737
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,399
is kind of the first paragraph that no

738
00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:00,720
person may discharge to public sewers

739
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520
any waste which by itself or by

740
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640
interaction with other waste may injure

741
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,480
or interfere with wastewater treatment

742
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,960
processes or facilities.

743
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Constitute a hazard to humans or

744
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,480
animals.

745
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,799
create a hazard in the receiving waters

746
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,120
or irrigation acreage of the wastewater

747
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360
treatment plant affluent. So those are

748
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,960
the generic kind of statements of all

749
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,600
right you can't you can't cause us harm

750
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,240
by what you put back in our sewer system

751
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,159
what you discharge back out

752
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:34,080
also currently prohibited in our

753
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,640
discharges and if you go to this again

754
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960
this is chapter 11 our water utilities

755
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,679
or our utilities ordinance chemical

756
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:44,320
discharges and there's a long list of

757
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,159
chemicals there that are listed that

758
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:48,320
says you cannot discharge these they

759
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,399
have to be at a certain rate or not at

760
00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:53,200
All heavy metals and toxic materials

761
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320
again at a certain rate or not at all.

762
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,960
Garbage. We It surprised me as I was

763
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,159
reading through. You just can't put

764
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:02,080
garbage down the sewer line. Okay, that

765
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,640
makes a lot of sense. Radioactive waste,

766
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320
you can't put that in the sewer line

767
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960
either. These are already in our

768
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,559
ordinances.

769
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,399
High temperature discharges. When you

770
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,799
get over 150 degrees Fahrenheit and you

771
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:16,240
start pushing those things down the

772
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480
sewer line, you start having real issues

773
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,279
and problems. and then also storm water

774
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,240
and other unpolluted drainage going into

775
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
the sewer system that overloads the

776
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,640
sewer system and may cause it to spill

777
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,080
out. Those things are already in our

778
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,360
utility ordinance today.

779
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080
What we're proposing to add for data

780
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,640
center specific

781
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,240
uh a discharge event means any

782
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,080
intentional release of treated cooling

783
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,039
fluid to the sanitary sewer system. A

784
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,039
planned discharge events means an

785
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:51,120
intentional release associated with a

786
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,960
scheduled maintenance, loop replacement,

787
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,279
or repair activity.

788
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,600
An emergency discharge event means an

789
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760
unplanned release caused by equipment

790
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,720
failure, system rupture, or safety

791
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,470
related incident.

792
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,960
Sampling and laboratory verification of

793
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
treated discharge must be completed

794
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,039
prior to each discharge event. Records

795
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,200
of the discharge volumes, analytical

796
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,080
results, and discharge dates must be

797
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,159
maintained for at least three years and

798
00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:24,240
provided to the uh director of water

799
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,880
utilities upon request.

800
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,640
Planned discharge events required

801
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880
written notification to the water

802
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,279
utilities director at least 72 hours

803
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,240
prior to discharge so that he can send

804
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,240
his teams, let's go check, are they

805
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,679
doing everything correct? Are they

806
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:41,200
protecting our system? Are they

807
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,240
protecting our citizens?

808
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Four, emergency discharges events must

809
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960
be reported to the director of water

810
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640
utilities within 4 hours of the

811
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,320
occurrence. And a written incident

812
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,399
report must be submitted within 7 days

813
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:57,279
detailing the uh discharge volume,

814
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,279
analytical results, and corrective

815
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,480
actions taken. And the director of water

816
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,080
utilities retains the authority to

817
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,559
establish discharge flow limits and

818
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,240
additional operation requirements

819
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
necessary to protect the city. sanitary

820
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
sewer infrastructure and ensure

821
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,799
compliance with applicable industrial

822
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,360
pre-treatment standards. So, we do have

823
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,039
a lot of industrial sites around our

824
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,039
community and we already have rules for

825
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,600
those industrial sites. We're proposing

826
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,799
these five things for data center

827
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,149
specific.

828
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:31,679
And so, I've gone through a lot of

829
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:33,919
slides and a lot of information. And I

830
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:35,519
know our city council's been listening

831
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,880
over here to our right. Um,

832
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,399
I'm not sure that there's any questions

833
00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,720
from city council at this moment today,

834
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,320
but if you have any questions, I'd be

835
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,159
happy to try to answer them. If not,

836
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:47,760
we'll move to the next item on the

837
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,549
agenda.

838
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,880
» Okay. Well, with that, mayor, I think

839
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,799
we'll move on to the next item on the

840
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,960
agenda. Um, and let y'all take it from

841
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,559
there.

842
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:06,888
Thank you, everyone.

843
00:34:06,898 --> 00:34:19,750
» [applause]

844
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,679
» Or do you have the clicker?

845
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,440
>> Can I use the clicker?

846
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,200
>> You want clicker? Sure. Cheers.

847
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,190
>> Thank you.

848
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:38,389
Cool.

849
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:45,270
» I get the big arrow goes forward.

850
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,280
» Put a mock check.

851
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,720
>> Check. Check. Work. Get over here. We

852
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,679
can pass it back and forth.

853
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:52,240
>> Sure.

854
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:56,389
>> Yeah.

855
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,240
So, at this point of the time, or excuse

856
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,400
me, at this point in time, the thing

857
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,240
that I've been excited about for a long

858
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,079
time, I guess it's been over a year that

859
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,680
we've been working on this project, is

860
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,839
to bring these two gentlemen up here to

861
00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:13,920
answer your questions.

862
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,240
There were some benchmarks and there are

863
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,400
some milestones that the city needed to

864
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,320
achieve before we got to this process.

865
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,040
There were several things that happened

866
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
up to this date

867
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,200
that would have changed had we brought

868
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,119
them sooner. Wouldn't bring us to the

869
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:32,960
point we are today to ask the questions

870
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
we want. All right. So, what I'm going

871
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,720
to be doing now is we're going to cover

872
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,359
some questions that were submitted.

873
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:44,079
Every question that was submitted over

874
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,560
the from the I believe it was the 8th

875
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,720
through the 17th of April is answered

876
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,400
and we're going to make that website

877
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,200
live to you here in a little bit. And I mean every question if they did

878
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,040
not submit a question it didn't get

879
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,640
answered. So I don't know they had they

880
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,320
had 10 days to submit questions. If you

881
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,119
didn't answer one we'll try to get that

882
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,800
addressed in the future. We took the top

883
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,680
seven or eight questions and try to

884
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,640
build a summary of what those are

885
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,640
and we're going to answer those here

886
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,359
tonight. And when we get done, we'll

887
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:21,359
flip on the website and everybody can go

888
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,119
find their question. If it's not exactly

889
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,440
how you submitted it, please understand

890
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920
we had to summarize it. If there were

891
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,720
questions that were,

892
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,640
I would say, something we couldn't give

893
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,760
a very factual answer to, a yes, no, we

894
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,200
didn't answer those. And I think y'all

895
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,800
understand that sometimes people put out

896
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,720
something that's real open-ended in an

897
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,320
attempt to box you in a corner, and we

898
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,720
don't want to box anybody in a corner,

899
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,480
but we wanted to at least answer

900
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,680
everything we could. And as always, uh,

901
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,839
the entire council and myself were very

902
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,000
approachable.

903
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,520
talk with your councilman if there's

904
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,720
something you've seen that hadn't gone

905
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,480
forward. But right now, I want to

906
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000
introduce to you the two people up here

907
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,119
on the stage. And I'm going to start

908
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,000
with CEO Chris Sumpter of Skybox

909
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,760
Emergent. And Chris, I would love for

910
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,119
you to tell them a little bit about your

911
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,960
history

912
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520
and we'll go from there.

913
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,800
>> Um, again, Chris Sumpter. Um, I've been

914
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,119
in the data center industry now for

915
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:21,200
about as long as anybody can be. Um you

916
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,920
know I started in 1996

917
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,240
um you know with small company called

918
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,119
TitchX. We pioneered managed hosting

919
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,599
which is now basically the the cloud. Um

920
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,400
you know I was in it you know basically

921
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640
running sales organizations.

922
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,560
Um

923
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,560
was with the company till 2002.

924
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Um I started working for another company

925
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
called Raging Wire which is now NT

926
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,599
Global and um then went to work for a

927
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,359
company called Digital Realy Trust which

928
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:56,640
is now I would say probably the you know

929
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,839
largest global data center company um

930
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:03,520
and you know 2007 I became founder

931
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,280
co-founder of another company called

932
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,119
Vantage Data Centers um you know again

933
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,359
most way through these companies running

934
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:13,440
sales organizations

935
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,920
um took time out 2012

936
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,079
uh coached football, watched my kids

937
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,880
grow up, uh decided to get back into the

938
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,560
industry about a year later and um

939
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,160
helped two other companies in the data

940
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480
center industry get started. Um you

941
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,920
know, helped the line data centers get

942
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,520
up and running, edge core as well. um

943
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,119
really got more into the development

944
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,880
side of the house and um 2017 met some

945
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,800
other individuals that were more private

946
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,000
equity um and had my own building that I

947
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,839
was developing in in Santa Clara,

948
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,880
California and you know at that point in

949
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,720
time brought in some investment uh from

950
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:59,440
McCory Capital um and about a year ago

951
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,760
ended up recapping you know out of that

952
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,800
company and starting Emergent which you

953
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,400
at that point in time teamed up with

954
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Mike. Um started bringing my team back

955
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,400
together and u really started going out

956
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,839
and you know looking for sites you know

957
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:19,119
like the skybox site here as well as

958
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:20,480
some of the other projects that we have

959
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,119
around the country. Pennsylvania. Um

960
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,760
that were, you know, really sites that

961
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920
we thought were, you know, good projects

962
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
to bring to the community and develop

963
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,920
for, you know, really what we target is

964
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,320
the big five. Um, you know, which would

965
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,440
be AWS, Google, Microsoft, Meta, uh,

966
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,960
companies like that, which are primarily

967
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,720
our customer base. Um, and you know,

968
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,880
brings us to really today and you know,

969
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,640
what we're doing now.

970
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,079
>> Thank you. I I appreciate you being

971
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:49,760
candid. I asked him before we came out

972
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,880
here. I said, "If you had to rank

973
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440
yourself on on a scale of one to 10, how

974
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,200
long you've been in the industry with a

975
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,520
10 being the most compared to your

976
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,480
peers?" I both of them said, "We we've

977
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,320
been in here tens." I mean, we have been

978
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200
with the very first ones initially. You

979
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,560
started before they were called data

980
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,000
centers. Um, I think it's great that we

981
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,480
bring probably the most experienced team

982
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560
in the industry

983
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,320
to the city of St. Angelo. Now, let's if

984
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,119
you'll hand the mic over to Mike.

985
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,599
Um Mike, we'll let you credential

986
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,920
yourself here a little bit. All right.

987
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,280
Uh good evening. I I want to thank

988
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,560
everybody for giving us an opportunity

989
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,119
to come speak to you first. Um really do want to be able to answer

990
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,920
all your questions and and like uh Mayor

991
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Tom had mentioned, I'm I'm happy to stay

992
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,320
behind and answer some questions if you

993
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,920
didn't get the answers that you think or

994
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,280
the information that that you really

995
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,480
needed. So, um start there. Uh I've been

996
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
doing this a long time too, almost uh 30

997
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,599
years myself. I start I'm the technical

998
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,720
and delivery um guy at at Skybox

999
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,079
Emergent. Um I started out on the

1000
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,319
electrical and um overall design of the

1001
00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:00,240
buildings approximately 30 years ago,

1002
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,160
but for the last almost 20 years, I've

1003
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,240
been on the operational side and and the

1004
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,960
delivery side for uh many companies that

1005
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,280
uh I think you guys all use. Uh for a

1006
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,359
long time, I was the technical leader

1007
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,680
and SVP at Yahoo. those of you that

1008
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,839
might still be carrying a Yahoo email

1009
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:18,560
address out there. Um, and I I managed

1010
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,880
that team globally and built their sites

1011
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,599
um all over all over the world. Um,

1012
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,920
transition from there to Google. I ran

1013
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,800
global data center operations um 26

1014
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,160
countries and about 6,000 people um and helped start up a lot of sites and

1015
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,800
um partner up with a lot of towns not

1016
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
just in the US but all over Europe and

1017
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,560
Asia as well. the last um last six years

1018
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,119
uh up until the end of last year.

1019
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,119
Another uh another another company you

1020
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,119
probably know pretty well. I I led the

1021
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,680
development um and of the infrastructure

1022
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160
and the operational um teams for Bite

1023
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,839
Dance, which is the parent company for

1024
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,720
Tik Tok and Cap Cut and a bunch of other

1025
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,160
apps that you probably don't know about.

1026
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
But um so this is really um something

1027
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,920
that I've done I've always done. I I've

1028
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,160
been um in charge of managing the teams

1029
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,319
locally and building the teams locally.

1030
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:13,520
Um I've been responsible for working

1031
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,240
with the local community, the schools

1032
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,240
like uh like like we are starting here

1033
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,119
to create uh technical programs to put

1034
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,240
the jobs together and hire locally. Um

1035
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,040
and a and a lot of other things. We're we're not coming in to build

1036
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640
something and run away. We're really

1037
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,640
looking to uh to come in here and build

1038
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,920
something and partner with the community

1039
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,520
and become part of it. Um I think uh

1040
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,280
rightfully so there's some you know some

1041
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,680
hesitation because there's you know

1042
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,640
there's there's some factual uh um

1043
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,920
instances where maybe some of the

1044
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,839
developers in our industry um haven't

1045
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:47,839
done it the right way and I think

1046
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:49,760
there's some valid concerns around the

1047
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,680
water. I think what we're doing is the

1048
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,440
most responsible way and we can talk

1049
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,440
about it a little bit more later. Um,

1050
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,119
and we'll explain it to you so you you understand the difference because

1051
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:00,480
um, I think some of the information you

1052
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,319
have is valid and it is happening in

1053
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:03,760
some places. We're just not going to do

1054
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,359
that here. Um, so anyway, no, thank you.

1055
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:08,960
It's I think what's important to gather

1056
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
from the introduction to you two is this

1057
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,920
is not a B team. This is a very

1058
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,480
experienced senior team and for you to

1059
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,960
come here, we're lucky to have you pick

1060
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,480
our side. So with that, we'll go into

1061
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,000
the first question. We can put put the

1062
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,240
first slide up

1063
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:28,160
if we can put that up on the screen.

1064
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:35,109
Maybe it's going to go up.

1065
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,160
» Brian, is it coming up or do

1066
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,079
or would I need to press the button?

1067
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:40,560
>> Take it.

1068
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,800
>> All right, I got it now. I got to

1069
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,920
remember you have it. Yes,

1070
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,920
that one's fun.

1071
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,960
Technology.

1072
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,839
>> Technology gets me. All right. So,

1073
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:53,599
>> you had it connected to a data center.

1074
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,040
>> Yeah. If it was connected to a data

1075
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,040
center, would it work better? Okay.

1076
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,800
Skybox has been looking at Angelo for

1077
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,800
over a year. Can you walk us why you

1078
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,200
looked at St. Angelo, how you came to

1079
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,839
this spot in sight selection?

1080
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:12,880
And, you know, we kind of sit back and

1081
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,560
wonder why you got to us. And there's a

1082
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,720
lot of questions about the substation

1083
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,720
and where the venue is and location. So

1084
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,560
let's start there. Why did you start

1085
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,920
here?

1086
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,200
>> So you know when you start looking at

1087
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,960
site selection for data centers,

1088
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,440
there's, you know, some real major piece

1089
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,280
parts that you need to have for a

1090
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,480
successful project, land being a very

1091
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,240
large part of that, right? You need to

1092
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:39,760
have,

1093
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,599
you know, at least for a campus, you

1094
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:43,599
know, you need several hundred acres. We

1095
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,400
also want to make sure that you know if

1096
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,200
you look at areas like you know Ashurn

1097
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,720
Virginia

1098
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,000
we as a company I don't want to build in

1099
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,760
the middle of what I would consider a

1100
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,680
population center right so when we start

1101
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,760
looking for things I want to build

1102
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,240
outside away from you know neighborhoods

1103
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,240
hospitals schools things of that nature

1104
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,599
so um you start taking a look at that

1105
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:09,440
you also start taking a look at major

1106
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,000
fiber routes which you know there's new

1107
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,520
fiber routes that are being built right

1108
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
alongside that corridor. And then you

1109
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,040
start taking a look at, you know, the

1110
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,599
power, you know, hubs as well. So, you

1111
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,280
know, the Red Creek substation that's

1112
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,240
out there is a major regional substation

1113
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,240
and, you know, there's a lot of power

1114
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,040
that sits on that substation. There's no

1115
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
real upgrades that need to be done. um

1116
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,359
there's a lot of capacity that can be

1117
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:36,480
drawn on for the data center and there's

1118
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,680
also going to be a lot of the new 765 KV

1119
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,119
upgrades that are going to be feeding

1120
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,119
into that from the generation sources

1121
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,400
that are in West Texas. So instead of

1122
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,200
waiting for that to get into, you know,

1123
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,280
I would say more, you know, central

1124
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,119
Texas, you know, the Dallas, Fort Worth

1125
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,079
type areas, which is very congested, you

1126
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,319
know, we wanted to come this way to get

1127
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:01,280
closer to the source. So that was a big

1128
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520
part of the reason why just from a, you

1129
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,280
know, a reason why we wanted to pick

1130
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,480
that specific location. Um, it was just

1131
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,640
all the piece parts were really perfect

1132
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,440
for sight selection.

1133
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,079
One thing that amazed me and this this

1134
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:17,839
started under Mayor Gunner, but when you

1135
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:19,599
came here, the first thing y'all asked

1136
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,480
for was to be annexed and inside the

1137
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,240
city limits.

1138
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,079
All right. So, I think people don't

1139
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,160
understand when you get size and you get

1140
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960
scale, you also get governance and

1141
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,079
ethics that come along with that.

1142
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:35,839
Maybe elaborate a little bit on why you

1143
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:37,520
wanted to be inside the city limits

1144
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,200
because of all the data centers that

1145
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,280
have been talked about and noise has

1146
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,079
been going. This is the only one that

1147
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,640
any type of governance will be on at

1148
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,359
this point. All right. So, I know

1149
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:51,599
everybody was familiar with the event

1150
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,280
that happened at Dove Creek and there's

1151
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,720
discussion of other data centers.

1152
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,560
They're outside the city limits and they

1153
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,359
are moving forward, but understand

1154
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:01,119
because of the input that we've done

1155
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,000
here, this is going to be the only one

1156
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,680
that has a set of ground rules and

1157
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,680
parameters to help it develop. And I

1158
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,440
want to say I want to ask you why is

1159
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,359
that important to you?

1160
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,200
So, you know, every one of the projects

1161
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,440
that that we've been involved in, we've

1162
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,640
always had our sites annexed in. Um, you

1163
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,119
know, I've never stayed in the ETJ,

1164
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,440
there's been, you know, the vast

1165
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,200
majority of the reason is I think a lot

1166
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,960
of the developers, at least the ones

1167
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,400
that you take a look at that are staying

1168
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,200
out and want to stay out of annexation,

1169
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,720
if you look at them as a company, you

1170
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,400
look at their projects, most of them are

1171
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,839
new entrance into the data center

1172
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:38,079
ecosystem. um they don't really

1173
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:39,680
understand that getting involved in the

1174
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,079
community, you know, being able to to

1175
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,640
have access to, you know, I don't want

1176
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,800
to necessarily say, you know, city

1177
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,800
water, sewer, things like that, but you

1178
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,160
do need to be able to have certain

1179
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,079
levels of city resources, you know,

1180
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,240
paying for them or not. You need to be

1181
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,599
able to have that. And I just don't

1182
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,359
think they really understand that. You

1183
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:01,760
start paying into the tax basis, it also

1184
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,440
helps the community. You know, you're

1185
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,680
also getting emergency services. Our tax

1186
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,000
dollars go to help the fire department,

1187
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,440
police department, things of that

1188
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,480
nature. It goes to the schools. It just

1189
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,480
all kind of works into the ecosystem.

1190
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,599
You're not getting that when you're

1191
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,839
staying in the ETJ. You don't really get

1192
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:20,640
the support from the community either. I

1193
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,640
think they start learning once they get

1194
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,880
one to two years into their developments

1195
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,559
that they need to come back and start

1196
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,800
asking for those services and that help.

1197
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,240
It's a little too late when you get to

1198
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,069
that point in time.

1199
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:35,839
It was a little bit of a question in

1200
00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:37,280
some of our mind why you why you want to

1201
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,640
do that because we could have sold you

1202
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880
the property, all right, and just run

1203
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,880
your water pipeline. And then we looked

1204
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,720
at what we could bill you for, we'd have

1205
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,480
been millions of dollars in the hole,

1206
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,599
all right, because you don't use that

1207
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:48,800
much water, but we would have built you

1208
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,800
a pipeline. But the fact that you asked

1209
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,800
to be annexed in as a start brought a

1210
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,319
whole different complexion to how we

1211
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:58,319
looked at it as a council. And it's

1212
00:48:58,319 --> 00:48:59,680
like, okay, we're going to have input.

1213
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,800
We're going to have governance. We're

1214
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,240
going to have somebody wants to be a

1215
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,760
community partner. And we thought that

1216
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,240
was great and we appreciate that.

1217
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,520
Next slide. Got it.

1218
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,680
Water protection. This is one of the key

1219
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,880
hot buttons.

1220
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,440
>> It's It's been a punch and and

1221
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,680
>> yeah,

1222
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,400
>> it's a top priority for residents.

1223
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,920
>> We're talking clos loop. We're talking

1224
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Gen 3. And I just want to say,

1225
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,760
>> yeah,

1226
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,839
>> we vetted a lot of this out up front.

1227
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:25,839
Had it not been to this, we never would

1228
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:28,079
have even opened the discussion over a

1229
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,000
year ago. But y'all brought this to us

1230
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,839
at the forefront. I want you to talk

1231
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:34,480
about Gen One, Gen 2, and water.

1232
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,559
>> Yeah, this is this is a this is probably

1233
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,119
the biggest topic that that we ever that

1234
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,760
we run into ever. And again, like I

1235
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,400
said, um a lot of justified feelings

1236
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,599
around this topic. Um not everybody's a responsible developer and operator.

1237
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,720
So, some of the stories you see online,

1238
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,119
um, again, when you get out into the,

1239
00:49:55,119 --> 00:50:00,160
uh, outside of the city limits and your restrictions are zero, people are

1240
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,000
sinking wells, you know, suckling

1241
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,240
aquifer dries, things like that. We we

1242
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,440
just don't believe we we just don't

1243
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
believe in that process, right? So,

1244
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,040
what you have developed from a a

1245
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,520
governance and restriction standpoint

1246
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,040
meets meets our typical design anyway.

1247
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,760
So, but to give you just give you kind

1248
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,680
of an iteration of what the data centers

1249
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,839
have done 20 years ago and really even

1250
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:26,880
up to five years ago, we didn't have the

1251
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,119
technology on the aircooled chiller side

1252
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,359
to really make them functional and

1253
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:33,599
cost-effective. And the technology has

1254
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,680
moved mainly because of the people like

1255
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,119
you that come out and have said we don't

1256
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,040
want this uh happening. It's very

1257
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,240
difficult for us to drive the

1258
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:46,319
manufacturing uh companies to create a a system that that we're not deploying.

1259
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:47,599
um if they're making a lot of money on

1260
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,839
the old system, why innovate it, right?

1261
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:52,400
So, it it did I think public outcry

1262
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640
helped um move that along a lot quicker

1263
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,480
than we could have as an industry. The

1264
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,359
initial um standard design I think a lot

1265
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:01,359
of you would be familiar with the Gen

1266
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:03,119
One cooling was was traditional

1267
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,520
evaporative cooling with cooling towers.

1268
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,680
And basically what we did was we used an

1269
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640
enormous amount of water every day. We

1270
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,119
cycled it through the building. Um we

1271
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,599
collected the heat through uh you from

1272
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:19,280
air inside. Um exchanged that very much,

1273
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,440
you know, like on a radiator. Um and

1274
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,319
then we we pumped that loop up to a

1275
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,480
tower above the building and we would

1276
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880
evaporate use evaporation to reject the

1277
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,960
heat and circle the water back. And what

1278
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,119
happens is we could only run that water

1279
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,000
through the system, you know, roughly

1280
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,000
five or six times. as we evaporate it,

1281
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,440
all the dissolved solids and everything

1282
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,200
else that's in the water becomes

1283
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,720
concentrated. We can't use the water and

1284
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,280
then we discharge it out and stick it in

1285
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,760
your sewer system. That that was the

1286
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
standard for many years. Um we all knew

1287
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,000
that that wasn't okay and and I would

1288
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,240
say even as far back as 20 uh 2007, we

1289
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,160
started um conditioning the water

1290
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,040
oursel. Um some places we built

1291
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,480
evaporative ponds so that we didn't

1292
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,920
discharge at all. Um but eventually we

1293
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,760
started to drive the industry to to make

1294
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,119
that process more effective because

1295
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,200
that's all we could do. We looked at

1296
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,520
using uh you know outside air

1297
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,720
economizers. Um at Yahoo we built you

1298
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,319
can look it up online. It's called the

1299
00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:25,040
Yahoo chicken coupe. Um we used 100%

1300
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,000
outside air very specific environments

1301
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,599
that where that works. You can't do it

1302
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:34,319
everywhere. Um so environmentally it was difficult to site those. Um but

1303
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:38,319
the technology helped us iterate. um

1304
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:40,000
we were still using a lot of water. So

1305
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,680
today I think the best way to describe

1306
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,920
this closed loop system is the radiator

1307
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,920
on your car, the the cooling system on

1308
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,240
your car. You fill it up with coolant.

1309
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,040
It's a closed loop system. You shouldn't

1310
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,200
be adding water to it, right? I mean,

1311
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,640
anybody here knows that if you're adding

1312
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,000
water, there's probably a problem

1313
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,520
somewhere that needs to be fixed.

1314
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,200
There's there's a you know, there there

1315
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,640
are um a lot of lot of piping and

1316
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,880
connections and pumps that can possibly

1317
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,880
leak. So we might we might have to add a

1318
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,000
little bit here and there if we're

1319
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,720
having to do maintenance. Um but once we

1320
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,559
fill the system it is a closed loop and

1321
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,680
we we don't lose the water. We over a

1322
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,760
period of time we can we can get some

1323
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,880
concentration of certain u it really

1324
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,200
depends on on what what the water coming

1325
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,720
in has in it and how how that um how how

1326
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,960
the operation affects it. So, what we do

1327
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,000
to um if we have to uh swap the water

1328
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,240
out or add water, we don't discharge

1329
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,319
into your sewer. We have storage tanks

1330
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:38,559
on site. Each building has enough

1331
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,760
storage to empty into the tank. So, even an emergency, I know you you guys

1332
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,040
have put some stuff together on the

1333
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,720
emergency side of this. We're not going

1334
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,960
to discharge uh directly into the sewer.

1335
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200
We we discharge into our own tanks and

1336
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,920
then we will treat the water so that it

1337
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,319
it's basically similar to the way that

1338
00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:59,839
it came in. Um, we test the water. We

1339
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:01,839
provide that testing to the city water

1340
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:03,359
department before they allow us to

1341
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:05,200
discharge. And then we don't just open

1342
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,440
the tank and let it go. They tell us how

1343
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,599
much they can handle based on activity

1344
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,559
in the city and what's going through um

1345
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:14,880
the sewer treatment plant and we slowly

1346
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,680
discharge it. Uh continuous monitoring

1347
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,240
of that. We will we will commit to make

1348
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,960
that monitoring available full-time. So

1349
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,640
we'll have it on our website. You can

1350
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,520
see water usage, water quality, water

1351
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,079
discharge. We are required to put that

1352
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,520
reporting together and provide it to the

1353
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,960
city as well and hold that for three

1354
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,760
years. But that's how we treat it. So

1355
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,160
there is no there's no discharge. And I

1356
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,880
think um to to maybe oversimplify it a

1357
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,280
little bit, it's just water and glycol.

1358
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,200
So it's just like radiator fluid in your car and some water and that

1359
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,359
that's what the system runs on. Um

1360
00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:51,359
chillers are on the roof. They're air

1361
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:53,760
cooled. So, they're basically

1362
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,280
just like the big radiator on the front

1363
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,079
of your car. Um, they're large large

1364
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,480
fins with surface area that we we run

1365
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,640
the water through and blow um air over

1366
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,800
and it it dissipates the heat and the

1367
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,000
cooler water goes back into the

1368
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,359
building. That that's basically how it

1369
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:09,119
works.

1370
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,119
There's I can't leave a hot topic like

1371
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:12,960
that this quick. I mean, we got to stay

1372
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,040
in. So, we're we're talking about

1373
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,480
emergency. You've already said, hey,

1374
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,400
we'll discharge with our own facility.

1375
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,720
Um,

1376
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,640
let's look at what you've seen. I mean,

1377
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,440
you've built data centers for 30, 40

1378
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,960
years.

1379
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,280
Do you think what what has amazed me?

1380
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Let me phrase this. Every time I have

1381
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,559
talked to you, you were like, just give

1382
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,480
it to me and I'll design it that way.

1383
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,839
All right. There I've had a couple

1384
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:37,359
questions like, we'll just design that

1385
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:40,480
in. And it amazes me how open y'all have

1386
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,280
been to say that's not an issue. I I

1387
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,920
mean water, we have had information talk

1388
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,599
about billions of gallons that were

1389
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:49,359
going to be used in 4 months. Then it

1390
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:51,280
went to millions and then things. Never

1391
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,839
once have y'all told us exactly how much

1392
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:55,280
water you're going to use or require

1393
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,720
until you've got your design and you

1394
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:00,160
said it's about 15,000. So at this point

1395
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640
when you compare the technology of this

1396
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,960
proposed site versus what's already out

1397
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,400
there, how do we benchmark against that?

1398
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,359
>> This this is the most advanced as of

1399
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:16,400
today. Um what what I would say even at bite dance when I was we were

1400
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,880
deploying this same technology you know

1401
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,640
very similar I should say not the same

1402
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,920
because we all have a little bit of our

1403
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,000
own secret sauce um but we were

1404
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,440
deploying this in a tropical environment

1405
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,319
so Southeast Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia

1406
00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:31,200
um five years ago a closed loop system

1407
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,920
would have never been um able to operate

1408
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,680
in a high humidity high temperature

1409
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,920
environment. the manufacturers have come

1410
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,079
a long way and really really provided us

1411
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,480
the the tools and the equipment to put a

1412
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,280
system together. Um, and to be to be

1413
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,079
honest, it does cost more and it's not

1414
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,319
as it's not as efficient from an

1415
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:54,240
electrical use as uh the as as the

1416
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:55,520
evaporative cooling is. And that's

1417
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,680
really why a lot of developers are still

1418
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,599
using the water because they grab the

1419
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,680
water for pretty cheap and it it brings

1420
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,720
the the cost down. We as an industry use

1421
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:08,079
a a metric called PUE. It's power

1422
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,079
utilization effectiveness. And that

1423
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,640
basically and so we've always been

1424
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,880
tracking this. Well, at least for 20

1425
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,799
years we've been tracking this. Um

1426
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,480
basically we look at the amount of power

1427
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,920
that we use and then the amount of

1428
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,119
energy that we need to cool off or

1429
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:24,480
reject the heat is actually the

1430
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,280
technical term. Um we have always tried

1431
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,920
to bring that pee down as close to par

1432
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,839
as you know we can't get to we can't get

1433
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:36,000
to zero but when I started in this 30

1434
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,640
years ago we were two to two and a half

1435
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,319
times so not not in the ones like 2.25

1436
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:45,680
25 2.5. Um, a lot of people in the

1437
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,280
industry will will still tell you today

1438
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,079
that a 1.5 is a good number. Um, we're

1439
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,680
designing at much much lower numbers

1440
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,000
than that. And and that really has been,

1441
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,160
you know, because we manage it and we measure it. It does reduce the

1442
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,960
amount of servers we can run. But that's

1443
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,119
the right way to approach this. I we

1444
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:10,480
responsible way to to to build this is to reduce your energy use and the the

1445
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,880
water use as well. And I appreciate you

1446
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,359
saying that because it's been it's our

1447
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:18,720
most precious resource. Um there have

1448
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,160
been companies that have wanted to come

1449
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,799
to Angelo chemical companies and through

1450
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:25,839
the economic development process. We did

1451
00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:28,319
not welcome that because of their water

1452
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,319
consumption and we we realize that and

1453
00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:32,400
we appreciate the fact that y'all threw

1454
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,839
that out up front. You've talked about

1455
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:36,000
it. Here's what we do. Here's how much

1456
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,920
we use and we'll put our name on the

1457
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,359
bottom of it and you can hold us

1458
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:41,680
accountable for it. Earlier today, you

1459
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,799
mentioned you're going to have a live

1460
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:45,280
website. You brought it up there. You as

1461
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,200
this develops somewhere within the

1462
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,040
process the next few years, people will

1463
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,200
be able to go on daily to your website

1464
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,319
and see the water consumption.

1465
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,079
>> Yeah. And they can validate our numbers

1466
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:56,319
against yours because our water numbers

1467
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:57,920
are going to be metered by you. We're

1468
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,799
just going to we're just going to give

1469
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:01,200
them to you in real time, but ultimately

1470
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,200
you you guys are the ones that have to

1471
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,640
validate the data. Same with the

1472
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,559
discharge. you guys are me metering and

1473
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,319
measuring that as well, but we're gonna

1474
00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:10,640
we're just going to provide it to you um

1475
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,400
at will basically.

1476
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,920
>> Well, it's you know sometimes you know I

1477
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,240
would say facts are not popular and it's

1478
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
when you kick it out like this to say

1479
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
this is exactly what we're going to

1480
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
have. We appreciate that. Transparency

1481
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,200
is I think the key, right? If [laughter]

1482
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,480
it's one thing for us to come up here

1483
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,680
and tell you what we're going to do, but

1484
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,680
if we don't give you a way to measure

1485
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,920
and monitor us and and we're not

1486
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,599
transparent, who are you going to

1487
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,319
believe, right? I mean, I I don't think

1488
00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:42,079
the industry has earned the trust yet

1489
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:43,599
and we need to do a better job at that

1490
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:45,119
and we're going to do our best.

1491
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,040
>> Well, I was not just me. I would think

1492
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,119
the whole room appreciates that and the

1493
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:50,559
fact that you're very transparent and

1494
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:52,000
upfront about what your consumption is

1495
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,760
going to be. Let me roll to the next

1496
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,760
slide. Noise mitigation. Um, you talk

1497
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,079
about a hum of a data center. You've

1498
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:01,920
already committed to the 60 decel level.

1499
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,079
I I think Patrick, we have a um meter

1500
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,160
over there at the table. We're exceeding

1501
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,599
60 right now, but talking at the

1502
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,520
property lines. That's something that it

1503
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,960
becomes a hot bed for the surrounding

1504
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,119
environments. And so we're roughly four

1505
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,359
miles away. Tell me how you stay within

1506
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,359
those limits. Prove it.

1507
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:23,440
>> Yeah. So once once you've provided a a

1508
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,280
requirement and the requirements that

1509
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,280
you've given are are not difficult for

1510
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,680
us as an industry to meet, there's no

1511
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,280
reason you guys should hear it. I mean

1512
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,680
it just again this is this is really if you've got a responsible developer

1513
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,079
and operator, it shouldn't be built so

1514
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:41,359
that you know it's there. Um, I I can

1515
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:43,920
tell you in I I have built a lot of

1516
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,160
hundreds of these sites over almost 30

1517
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,240
years and I've only had one site where

1518
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
we had a noise issue and

1519
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,200
basically the way this works is we we

1520
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,720
start with a noise level that we need to

1521
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,520
meet. Um, and it's it's typically not an

1522
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,359
issue. I mean we we can usually uh

1523
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:01,040
design within it but as we start to

1524
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,119
place the buildings and we or orient the

1525
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,680
buildings so that the equipment is not

1526
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,119
facing you or facing the road um we have

1527
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:10,880
to choose mechanical equipment and

1528
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,559
electrical equipment. All of that

1529
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:14,400
equipment has noise ratings that are

1530
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,799
engineered. It's it's it's in the

1531
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:18,960
manufacturer um you know documentation

1532
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,880
and specifications. So we start by

1533
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,040
putting an assembly of pieces together

1534
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,200
that meet the minimum requirement. Then

1535
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:31,760
we run into the what we would call the site related um issues and and this

1536
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,440
is why we do a study. So once we have it

1537
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,680
all put together and engineered to work,

1538
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,960
I think this is where a lot of people

1539
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,000
fail is once you apply that to the

1540
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,119
actual location, things can change. So

1541
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:44,799
you don't really know how the noise is

1542
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:46,720
going to react to the local environment.

1543
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,480
You'd be surprised sometimes to the

1544
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,880
amount of moisture in the air. um that

1545
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,400
like there there's there's some crazy

1546
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,079
things that we've had to deal with, but

1547
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:57,200
we will use a a company that that we

1548
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,520
both agree on to do an independent study

1549
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,319
so that we can model the equipment and

1550
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:05,599
model that for the site. Um and then

1551
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:07,359
we're we have you you guys have actually

1552
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:09,920
created some pretty robust language so

1553
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,599
that we will be testing for the first

1554
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:13,520
year to make sure that everything that

1555
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,520
we've engineered um will meet the

1556
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,000
minimum requirements if not better.

1557
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,920
There's there's all kinds of tools that

1558
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,920
we use. The the equipment has sound

1559
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,040
attenuing uh properties to it. The

1560
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,799
generators I think a lot of people are

1561
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:28,640
potentially worried about. Our engines

1562
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,720
go inside a sound attenuated enclosure

1563
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,520
and that sound rating is is met before

1564
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,119
it even leaves the footprint of the

1565
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:35,920
generator.

1566
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,520
>> That's been a hot one. I've several

1567
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,720
people have brought up well they're

1568
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,640
going to cycle those generators and you

1569
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,559
can time those. There's it's always been

1570
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:43,520
what do you need?

1571
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,480
>> Yeah. So, the the the generators um they they don't sound any different than

1572
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
a truck driving by. Um we don't run

1573
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,880
those generators unless there's a

1574
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,760
utility outage other than once a month

1575
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,839
for 30 minutes. It's like having a car

1576
01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:59,920
in the garage. If you don't run it once

1577
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,400
a month, if these are remember these are

1578
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,640
emergency backup. So when the power

1579
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,000
shuts off, we have uh battery systems in

1580
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,480
the building that bridge the time it

1581
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,160
takes for the engines to start up and

1582
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,720
get ready to take the load. We can't

1583
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,640
have an engine fail. So we we have to

1584
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,119
test them once a month for 30 minutes

1585
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:22,000
and then we shut them down. And that's

1586
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,440
all. So both the noise and the the

1587
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,680
discharge from those are are regulated

1588
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:28,240
by

1589
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,599
>> you could stagger those. You could do

1590
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:30,319
those anyway when you

1591
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:32,079
>> Yeah. So we won't we would never run

1592
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:33,839
them outside of the normal business

1593
01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:35,520
hours. So it wouldn't be at night,

1594
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,359
wouldn't be on weekends, it would be

1595
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:39,280
during the middle of the day. We will

1596
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,720
give you notice literally the each

1597
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,319
building runs for 30 minutes and it

1598
01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:46,160
shuts down.

1599
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,000
You likely are never going to notice

1600
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,079
that they actually run. Right. Well, it

1601
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,720
there's a lot of facilities here in town

1602
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,119
that have emergency backup generators

1603
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,599
and the hospitals, there's

1604
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,680
pharmaceutical companies, odds, all of

1605
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,440
those have it available. I've never

1606
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,520
heard anybody complain about it just

1607
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,960
because of the perimeter and the cushion

1608
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,880
we have. some of the uh some of what I

1609
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,559
heard um about the low hum again you uh

1610
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,960
I think you or um I think it got covered

1611
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,039
in the in the zoning again that that is

1612
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:17,760
a that's a an assembly and a

1613
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,440
construction means and method issue

1614
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,920
typically none of the equipment that we

1615
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,839
buy and install is meant to have a low

1616
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:27,440
hum um it does happen and and I I had

1617
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,559
>> I wanted to make sure you brought this

1618
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:29,839
up because you told me you you

1619
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:30,799
engineered one out

1620
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:32,240
>> I did have this happen to me and it was

1621
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,720
in Ashurn Virginia um which is a very

1622
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,799
dense data center indust

1623
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:40,720
it's it's pretty much the the center of

1624
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,240
the universe for all things in the

1625
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,440
internet um mainly and it it it started

1626
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,039
there because the subc cables leaving

1627
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:50,559
the US out is land in that area and that

1628
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,720
and they wanted access to to the the

1629
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,599
subc cable but we had a uh we we did

1630
01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:58,400
have a an air handling unit when I say a

1631
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,039
I mean hundreds of them um on the site

1632
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,520
and it was it was basically five fans on

1633
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,079
a all four in corner and one in the

1634
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,839
center and for some reason that center

1635
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:10,640
fan we could never get it to balance and

1636
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,079
it did create a hum and one of the

1637
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,960
neighbors did bring it up and we tried

1638
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,920
for a month or two to to balance them.

1639
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,359
The only way for us to fix it was to

1640
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:22,240
remove that fifth fan and that those are

1641
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,160
just the things you have to do. You you don't say you know deal with it. Um,

1642
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,520
your regulations are great because if

1643
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,440
there's a complaint, there's a study,

1644
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,280
there's some testing and measurement

1645
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,319
required. If we're over, we have a we

1646
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:38,400
have a short amount of time to give you

1647
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,839
a plan to fix it. So, we're

1648
01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:43,839
if there's an issue, just let us know

1649
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:45,359
and we'll we'll take care of it. But

1650
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:46,720
there's there's there's a lot there's a

1651
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,160
lot of measurement and management around

1652
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
it that that's put in place to to make

1653
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,920
sure that you guys don't have to ever

1654
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,359
get to a point where you complain.

1655
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:55,760
>> Yeah. One of the times I called you, I

1656
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,200
said, "I'm running across this question

1657
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,960
and I don't find it anywhere to find an

1658
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,160
answer." And you just said, "No." And

1659
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,079
what was funny straight up? You said,

1660
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,839
"We we had one." You gave me that exact

1661
01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:05,440
example and you said, "You know what? I

1662
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,559
just engineered it out." I was kind of

1663
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:07,680
like, "Well, how'd you do? I just took

1664
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,839
it out." Oh, okay. I thought that was

1665
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:12,319
really great. Um, let's go on to the

1666
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:14,319
next question.

1667
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:16,960
Construction impact. Let's talk about a

1668
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,160
build this size.

1669
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:18,480
>> Yeah.

1670
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,880
>> The timeline. Um, y'all were going to

1671
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,039
share this one back and forth, but this

1672
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:26,960
one I want to talk about here in the

1673
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,760
prephase during the buildup and the

1674
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,440
closure bar and then compare it to some

1675
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,280
things you see happening in West Texas

1676
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,599
that I say have been unfairly compared

1677
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:36,640
to ourselves.

1678
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,640
>> Yeah. So,

1679
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,240
the scale of these are very different

1680
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,359
from sight to sight. the um what I would

1681
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:44,640
say is I think you know what you're

1682
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,000
seeing over there in West Texas right

1683
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,880
now that's that's the first and only of

1684
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,400
its kind. I even as long as I've been

1685
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,920
doing this I've never seen anything like

1686
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,559
it. So it's it's it's difficult to

1687
01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,400
explain that and then explain what we're

1688
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,200
building um

1689
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,039
we we do have multiple buildings and I

1690
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,960
think if you if you look if if you think

1691
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,119
about it um everybody's looking at this

1692
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:09,359
like it's one big data center. The the

1693
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:10,960
reality is this is like building a

1694
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,920
commercial uh industrial park that might

1695
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,240
have multiple buildings that and and

1696
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,200
roads um and parking and and that's

1697
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,559
ultimately what it is. The only

1698
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:22,319
difference is it's secure. You can't get

1699
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,799
in unless you work there because for for

1700
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:28,319
a number of reasons. Um so we aren't

1701
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:30,960
building 3 gawatt. I mean that that

1702
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,880
that's three 3x plus 300 megawatts of

1703
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,520
on-site energy generation. It's a very

1704
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:38,799
different project than what we're

1705
01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:40,880
proposing.

1706
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,119
This is still a large project in you

1707
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:45,920
know if you look at data center

1708
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,480
development over the last 20 years but

1709
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,240
we're going to stage these bu we're

1710
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,240
starting with one building and then we

1711
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,520
will stagger them and build them one

1712
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,200
building at a time. So we're not talking

1713
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,440
about thousands of people coming into

1714
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,319
town for three years. We're t we are

1715
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:02,079
talking about hundreds you know s maybe

1716
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:06,079
six or 700 people during a peak um and

1717
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:09,200
then it goes down. So there should be

1718
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,160
minimal impact. Look there's there's no

1719
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,680
way to say we're not going to we're not

1720
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,680
going to be renting hotel rooms and

1721
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,600
renting places and eating in your

1722
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,199
restaurants and like that is going to

1723
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:20,319
happen because these guys are going to

1724
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,040
live here uh for you know 3 to four

1725
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,880
years. Um

1726
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,560
>> a lot of the people should be living

1727
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:26,960
here.

1728
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,120
>> Yeah. Well, but but I think the first

1729
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,480
thing we try to do is make sure that

1730
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,560
we're sourcing labor um and partnering

1731
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,400
with the local construction companies

1732
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,640
and we're going to work we've already

1733
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880
started working with with some of them

1734
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,640
um to minimize that.

1735
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,640
>> We don't have a staffing plan yet

1736
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,600
because

1737
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:44,960
>> we haven't put a schedule together yet

1738
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:45,839
because you have we just kind of give

1739
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,199
you the guidelines. You haven't approved

1740
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:49,440
the project yet, but but we but I've

1741
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:51,359
built a lot of these and and I can tell

1742
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,120
you we're not going to we're not peaking

1743
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,960
at a thousand people. So it it's also

1744
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,480
out on the edge of town. So we're you

1745
01:08:58,480 --> 01:08:59,920
know you're not going to see traffic

1746
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:01,440
rolling through town. The other thing

1747
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:03,759
too is um we try and stagger some of

1748
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:05,920
this work on shifts. Uh once the

1749
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,880
buildings get closed in we will we we

1750
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,960
will start you know changing the shifts.

1751
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,040
So some of the some of the mechanical

1752
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,440
electrical work can happen um you know

1753
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:18,080
in in the second and third shift hours.

1754
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,839
It reduces the number of people on site.

1755
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:21,600
And I think what a lot of people don't

1756
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,199
understand is the more people we have on

1757
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:25,440
site, the more congested it is, the

1758
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,679
harder it is for us to build it. The

1759
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:30,319
more crowded it is, um, our safety goes

1760
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,120
down, the quality of work goes down. So,

1761
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,120
we're not we're not we're not in a race.

1762
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,279
We're looking to, you know, take a

1763
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,560
logical approach and do this smart. Um,

1764
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:45,120
and we we've we've done this a lot. We we know we can do it with minimal

1765
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,279
impact. it it's been hard for us to

1766
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,960
define how that comparison is because

1767
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,040
everybody in here has friends in Abalene

1768
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,000
and and it's just been a boom and I said

1769
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,360
that's that's not what we're going to

1770
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,719
see here to some degree we're going to

1771
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:00,960
see some but not at the extent we see

1772
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,600
and we all have friends and neighbors

1773
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,120
that have gone through that experience I

1774
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,400
have a friend that's I guess working for

1775
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,400
Oracle on the project over in Abalene

1776
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,840
and I elaborated

1777
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,280
>> I think Chris can maybe give a little

1778
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,080
more insight to the impact on Abalene it

1779
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,480
it's not just one site

1780
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,000
Yeah, if you if you take a look at

1781
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,840
Abalene, you know, like Mike was

1782
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,320
explaining, it's it's a 3 gawatt site

1783
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,280
and there is a significant level of

1784
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,719
difference, right? They were trying to

1785
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:30,000
build that site as fast as they could.

1786
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,840
You know, it's the first Stargate site.

1787
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,679
They threw as many bodies at it as they

1788
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:36,640
possibly could and the size and scale of

1789
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,199
it continues to grow. You know, we've

1790
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:42,159
only got 350 acres, guys. We can only

1791
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:44,960
build so much product on that site.

1792
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,600
um I couldn't throw 6,000 people at it

1793
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,280
at once if I wanted to. There's just not

1794
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,080
enough acreage there. Um but when you

1795
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,000
start taking a look at that, you know,

1796
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,199
you've got one the Stargate site. You've

1797
01:10:57,199 --> 01:10:59,600
also got another site which is about an

1798
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,880
hour to the west uh of Abalene, which is

1799
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,760
another multi-gawatt site. There's no

1800
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,960
services out where that site is. So all

1801
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,520
of those construction workers and you

1802
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,880
know the people that are working on that

1803
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,679
project are also living in Abalene. So

1804
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:18,880
they're commuting back and forth. So you

1805
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,719
know all of those services are coming

1806
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:22,719
there. And then if you go up to Haskell

1807
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:24,800
there's another multi-gawatt project

1808
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,239
which is you know know who it is but I

1809
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:30,480
can't say. Um but it is another one of

1810
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:32,880
the big five which is another project.

1811
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,960
Well if anybody in this room has been to

1812
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,760
Haskell it's a very small town. There's

1813
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,320
not a lot of services in Haskell. All of

1814
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,679
those people are also living in Abalene.

1815
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:47,040
So, you know, yes, it is putting a

1816
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,040
significant strain on the local

1817
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,480
community in Abalene. We get it. Um, I

1818
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:56,000
don't see that level of strain happening

1819
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,560
on San Angelo. There's not the level of

1820
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,480
activity happening here. Um, you know, I

1821
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:03,600
don't think that it's going to happen

1822
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,920
anytime. And if some of those people

1823
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,199
should this move forward, if some of

1824
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:08,320
those people still want to stay in

1825
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,840
Abalene and drive back and forth, I

1826
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,040
don't think anybody in this room would

1827
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,320
have a problem with that. All right? I'm

1828
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,920
just saying we have to be practical

1829
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,360
about what's going to happen and moving

1830
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,360
forward. And I I appreciate y'all's

1831
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,960
honesty on that moving forward. What you

1832
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,080
think is going to be factual.

1833
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,840
>> We

1834
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,520
I tell you what, we have to go through

1835
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,719
this presentation. That's public

1836
01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:28,719
comment. I can't let that happen. But

1837
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,560
you submitted questions and we'll get to

1838
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,560
those in a minute. And you they actually

1839
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,000
have that answered and we're going to

1840
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,199
get to that here in a minute.

1841
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:40,080
Job creation beyond the constru

1842
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,040
construction phase. What do we see? I

1843
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,719
mean a lot of people have said you're

1844
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:46,880
going to come here. How many people is

1845
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,080
it going to bring? What are we going to

1846
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,840
retain? I look at it and go for the

1847
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,280
revenue that you're going to bring to

1848
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,640
the city. It's the least impactful

1849
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,400
stress on infrastructure you'll ever

1850
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,239
see. But people here want to know how

1851
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,080
many people are going to start. And

1852
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,760
let's just maybe skip all the way to the

1853
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,239
end and say potentially how many jobs

1854
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:08,239
are going to be here. But I think people

1855
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:10,000
have to realize Goodfellow is going to

1856
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,719
love to interface. I mean I we can guess

1857
01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:14,239
it's it doesn't take a rocket scientist

1858
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:15,920
to figure out who maybe your top three

1859
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,679
candidates are. and for our university,

1860
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:21,360
for our good fellow people, for our high

1861
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,719
school students and them to be able to

1862
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:24,640
come through in the next 10, 15 years

1863
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,640
and say, "Well, I was at a campus and

1864
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,920
did an internship for these people just

1865
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,360
is the coolest thing in the world." This

1866
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,199
is about some opportunities there, but I

1867
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:34,400
want to go back and talk a little bit

1868
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,840
about the job creation.

1869
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,080
>> Yeah. So, it it's it's in a couple of

1870
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,600
different buckets. Um there's the first

1871
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,600
one is is really just the facility teams

1872
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,400
that have to operate and manage the

1873
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,760
let's call it the building, right?

1874
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,239
Mechanical, electrical, the the entire

1875
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:53,600
campus. There's there's probably 100 to

1876
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,320
150 jobs that are full-time. These are 7

1877
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,600
by 24 uh operational facilities. So, you

1878
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,280
know, daytime staffing is a little

1879
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,360
higher, but these these facilities have

1880
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,880
to have people on site like a hospital

1881
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,239
kind of. um these the the facilities

1882
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:10,080
team is what we refer to them are there

1883
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,320
seven days a week 24 hours a day. So you

1884
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,000
can imagine one role um in the building

1885
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,960
that has to cover 7 days a week 24 hours

1886
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,520
plus holidays takes three people that

1887
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,600
one job is a threeperson job for just

1888
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,520
that just that task. So um that and and

1889
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,600
that the the numbers around that are

1890
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,120
pretty pretty well established in

1891
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,640
industrywide because we know what it

1892
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,800
takes. The IT infrastructure um

1893
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,679
operations inside is vastly different

1894
01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:40,960
and it could be it could be it could be

1895
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,320
at least that much and it could be

1896
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,080
double that. It really depends on what

1897
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,159
IT equipment gets installed in that

1898
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:50,000
building. Um and that's anywhere from we

1899
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:50,960
again it's

1900
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,640
>> so will will you specify that equipment

1901
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,719
or will your renters? No, we don't we

1902
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,199
don't specify. Look, the the IT

1903
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:59,679
equipment typically refreshes every 3 to

1904
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:04,239
5 years. So, day one they put it in,

1905
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:06,080
they run it for 3 to 5 years depending

1906
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,159
on what it is. And at a certain point,

1907
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:13,440
new technology is has come out and it's it the the cost effectiveness of

1908
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,280
operating the servers that are in there

1909
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,120
become, you know, there there's a

1910
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,120
complicated uh algorithm that we use

1911
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,159
based based on power consumption and

1912
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:24,000
output of the CPU. eventually it just

1913
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,080
doesn't make sense to keep it. So we

1914
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,679
pull it all out and put new. And that

1915
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:31,040
that's a pretty constant every 5year um

1916
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,960
3 to 5 year uh depending on what

1917
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,719
>> not only would that the value of the

1918
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:36,400
facility would increase every 5 years

1919
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,159
too, right?

1920
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:39,920
>> The value of it based on the interior,

1921
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,199
the equipment, things like that

1922
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:43,040
>> that refreshes every 3 to five years.

1923
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,159
>> Correct. Three to five. Okay.

1924
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,880
>> Yeah. Yeah. So

1925
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,040
those jobs those jobs cover, you know,

1926
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,840
the installation and what we refer to as

1927
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,679
break fix.

1928
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:55,120
You could have a million servers in

1929
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,360
there. Um, anyone here that has a

1930
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,560
computer knows you got to do stuff with

1931
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,560
it pretty regularly. So it's replacing

1932
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,560
components, keeping them operating.

1933
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,880
There's there's a pretty large staff of

1934
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,280
network technicians. There's a lot of

1935
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,600
fiber and structured cabling and network

1936
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,640
equipment that is always being upgraded,

1937
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,400
moved, added. So um

1938
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,080
the

1939
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,600
there's a there's a there's a lot of

1940
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,320
fixed um jobs but then I think the third

1941
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,719
bucket is there's a lot of peripheral uh

1942
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:26,880
jobs that get created to support the

1943
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,640
site and those are those are jobs

1944
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,920
created in town for services that the

1945
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,400
entire the entire function needs. So we

1946
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,040
have external contractors that that we

1947
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,239
hire food service like there's there's a

1948
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:42,800
uh I can't put a number on that because

1949
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,000
every every operation is slightly

1950
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:44,159
different.

1951
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:44,800
>> I don't

1952
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,199
>> but but we're we're talking about 400

1953
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,760
probably permanent on-site and you know

1954
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,199
a few hundred ex external but indirect

1955
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:56,159
support to uh to to the project. It's

1956
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:57,520
you can see lots of numbers, but the one

1957
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,120
I see that brings the most consistency

1958
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,640
to what we're talking about is for every

1959
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,400
one building you have on a site at a

1960
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,760
data center, you're probably going to

1961
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,920
have six or seven businesses that are

1962
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,719
going come up. Just a ratio of one to

1963
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:10,239
six. If you put in four buildings, we

1964
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,320
could look at roughly 24 businesses that

1965
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,560
will come here. These are jobs that left

1966
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,920
middle America and are coming back to

1967
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,640
middle America.

1968
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:17,280
>> That's correct.

1969
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,719
>> Yeah.

1970
01:17:18,719 --> 01:17:20,320
>> With that, let me move over to the next

1971
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,400
slide.

1972
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,960
Here's one that

1973
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,960
AE could probably answer this more and

1974
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,640
they do answer some questions, but let's

1975
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,520
talk about grid reliability. Um, people

1976
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,800
talk about brownouts. You're going to be

1977
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,320
using all of our electricity. What

1978
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,360
happens when it's 114 degrees in Angelo

1979
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,920
for 60 days straight. How do you manage

1980
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,600
that? And what we want to make sure

1981
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,159
you're not going to Yeah. steal the

1982
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:44,800
electricity.

1983
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,199
>> Understood. Um I I do think that they

1984
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:48,719
answer it pretty technically, but I'll

1985
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:51,840
give I'll give more of a a nonutility

1986
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,560
layman's uh uh answer. So before we even

1987
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,080
get

1988
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,679
final site selection on one of these

1989
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:01,840
sites, we have to go to the utility

1990
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,960
being A and then URKT and we have to we

1991
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,520
have to pay them to do a study on the

1992
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,760
grid um to determine whether they can

1993
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,560
supply this or not. And if they can't,

1994
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,199
they tell us no. if they can with enough

1995
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,320
generation but they need additional

1996
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,920
infrastructure and we're talking about

1997
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,080
transmission lines, switchyard,

1998
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,320
substation upgrades, they will come back

1999
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,440
to us and say we can serve it but

2000
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:29,120
there's all of these upgrades that need

2001
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,120
to be done and then we're responsible to

2002
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,320
make uh pay for that. So the the

2003
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,640
infrastructure coming to the site um and

2004
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,120
the cost of that never gets passed on to

2005
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,600
the the rateayer. it it's a direct cost

2006
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,679
and we not only do we have to pay for

2007
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:46,080
the study and the engineering but but we

2008
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,040
have to put the money up front for those improvements long before we um

2009
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:56,080
actually dig you know put the shovel in the dirt. So, um, and then our, uh, a

2010
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,600
lot of people think that we go in and

2011
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,239
negotiate a rate. U State of Texas and

2012
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,440
Urkott and A. We're we're governed by a

2013
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:05,280
tariff. We we don't we don't get to

2014
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,199
negotiate the rate. So, we we pay what

2015
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,840
the tariff uh, and the the laws say we

2016
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,320
pay. Um, that's not the same in every

2017
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,560
state than every municipality. But, but

2018
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,080
here in Texas, we don't uh we don't get

2019
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,600
to pick our um, well, here in St.

2020
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,280
Angelo, we're we're not we're not

2021
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,199
choosing what we pay for power. Well,

2022
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:22,800
and I think sometimes people don't

2023
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,239
understand that when the grid gets

2024
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,560
tight, there's a hierarchy in who gets

2025
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,040
cut off first and how it works down. The

2026
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,239
last people will be cut off will be a

2027
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:31,679
hospital and a nursing home, but there's

2028
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:33,120
a hierarchy and you have the ability

2029
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,400
with generators basically to be an

2030
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:35,040
island.

2031
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,280
>> Yeah, we do. If there's if if there is

2032
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,880
so our backup generation is we're from a

2033
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,360
business perspective in the way that our commitments to the tenants we have

2034
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,560
to have enough emergency um backup

2035
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,520
generation on site to run roughly 48

2036
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,840
hours on an island. Right? So if there's

2037
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,840
a if there's an emergency or if there's

2038
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,280
a a load a load issue like a an overload

2039
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,760
issue um they can ask us to go to

2040
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,280
generators and and run and operate and we can do that

2041
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,280
>> well and that's what it comes up a lot.

2042
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,960
It's a hot button and people are like

2043
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,320
you're going to take all that. I'm like

2044
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,080
no you you can be self-sufficient. You

2045
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,360
can survive on your own to help us get

2046
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,040
through those periods whether it be cold

2047
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:15,600
or heat.

2048
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,679
>> No is not going to let us impact you.

2049
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:21,120
It's it's pretty it's pretty clear in

2050
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,600
the way that they operate. That's not how it works.

2051
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,880
>> I I get it. All right. So, we'll go to

2052
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,800
the next slide.

2053
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,880
Here is I I think this may be our last

2054
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,880
slide. Um

2055
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,960
a lot of people have talked about well

2056
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,560
what are you going to give us for this?

2057
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,400
I mean, you know, what is everybody

2058
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,199
going to get? Um but some form of a

2059
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,040
handout, what makes this go? And then we

2060
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,159
talk about corporate social

2061
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,159
responsibility. These this isn't

2062
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:45,920
anything we can force on you. every

2063
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,239
company in the world, every nonprofit,

2064
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:49,840
every business commercial, they make

2065
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,280
their own decisions on what they're

2066
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,320
going to give to the local community. Um

2067
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,159
the the fact that we propose this

2068
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,159
question to me bothered me. I had

2069
01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:00,080
hesitation going, it's not our right to

2070
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,440
demand that. All right. It's up to you

2071
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,520
to say what you can and cannot do. And

2072
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,640
it's so I'll go back to the first time

2073
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,719
we sat on the stage and throw I think

2074
01:21:08,719 --> 01:21:10,159
Chris gave a very good answer at that

2075
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:12,000
point. You know, give us some examples

2076
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,360
of what you've done before. These are

2077
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,520
not guarantees. These aren't promises,

2078
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,199
but throw out some examples of what you

2079
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:18,480
do for a community.

2080
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,480
>> Yeah, I I'm going to let Chris uh take

2081
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,000
this one, but I I understand what you're

2082
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,159
saying, and I I think the fact that

2083
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:25,920
we're wanting to to be annexed into the

2084
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,600
city means we we want to be part of the

2085
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,920
community. So, we understand it's not

2086
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,080
you're right, but that's why we're here,

2087
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,480
right?

2088
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:36,400
>> So, you know, this question really

2089
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,040
breaks down into two pieces. um you know

2090
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,360
we're the developer of the project and

2091
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,199
as the developer we'll develop the

2092
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:44,480
buildings and then we're going to lease

2093
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:47,360
these buildings to you know again a

2094
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,960
Fortune 500 company. So, you know, there

2095
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,040
are certain things that we will do for

2096
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,040
the community and then when we have a

2097
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,920
tenant that comes in, the tenant that

2098
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,159
leases the campus from us, the tenant

2099
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,000
will also get ingrained in the community

2100
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,480
and those tenants always come in and

2101
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,560
will do things for the community above

2102
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,360
and beyond what we do. So, you know, I

2103
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,120
can only speak to, you know, the things

2104
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,199
that we generally do. Now, once the

2105
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:15,440
tenant comes in, that'll be a completely

2106
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:18,159
different discussion topic. um you know

2107
01:22:18,159 --> 01:22:20,000
but you will see them get much more

2108
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,400
ingrained in the community. Now you know

2109
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,199
for us every community is different. The

2110
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:27,120
ask is always a little bit different.

2111
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,560
the needs are always a little bit

2112
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,400
different and we do try to spend time

2113
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,719
and and you know we have been having uh

2114
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:35,280
conversations with with Mayor Tom you

2115
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,360
know about you know the needs of the

2116
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,960
community but some of the things that

2117
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,199
we've done in different communities are

2118
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:43,440
their apprenticeship programs their

2119
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:46,080
sponsoring school programs

2120
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,320
um you know we've sponsored you know

2121
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,480
concert in the park series for you know

2122
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:53,840
10 years running uh in other communities

2123
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,520
you know we've you know the fire trucks

2124
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,000
for, you know, Westlake Village and and,

2125
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,920
you know, one of the suburbs of Chicago.

2126
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,440
I mean, there's just different things

2127
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:05,120
that different communities, you know,

2128
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,320
have needs for. So, I can't put my

2129
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,400
finger on one specific thing that that

2130
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,840
we would say this is what we're going to

2131
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,360
do for the community. I don't want to

2132
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,639
say that we're only going to do one

2133
01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:16,400
thing for the community because that's

2134
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,239
not really how this works. There's a

2135
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:19,520
partnership that we want to have with

2136
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,400
the community. So, you know, we're open

2137
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,080
to doing different things. is we just

2138
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,840
need to be able to spend more time with

2139
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,760
the mayor and come up with what are the

2140
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,120
things that are going to impact the

2141
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,880
community the most and those are the

2142
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,920
things that we're going to focus on.

2143
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,159
>> I I can I can add a little context too

2144
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:41,120
from the the tenant side because that I was the tenant for the last

2145
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,000
probably 18 years um and operating you

2146
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,840
know dozens of these sites all over the

2147
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,639
globe. What I can tell you, every one of

2148
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:51,920
the hyperscalers or big five or fam,

2149
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,080
there's all kinds of names for them. Um,

2150
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,440
we all have a dedicated role on the team

2151
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,040
on a campus like this. That is the

2152
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,639
community manager and the community

2153
01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:02,960
relation team. They're there for you if

2154
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,239
you've got questions about what's going

2155
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,639
on the site. If you if you're not happy

2156
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:08,320
with something that's going on the site,

2157
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:13,360
they they have a full-time team that is here to to engage, but they but

2158
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,080
they're also working with you. um the

2159
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,760
needs change and the teams um a lot you

2160
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,280
know we're hoping the majority of the

2161
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,679
people that get hired there are are uh

2162
01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:25,600
you know people that live here and I

2163
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,880
don't think we're going to see commuters

2164
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,239
coming into St. Angelo but um there's a lot of community engagement u

2165
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:37,199
and and there'll be dedicated people to to do that guaranteed it's too big of

2166
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:40,239
a too big of an operation and it it's

2167
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:42,560
too risky to have a negative impact. Um,

2168
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,320
so it's a it's a pretty big high

2169
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,239
priority for the operational teams that

2170
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,560
will that will be on site.

2171
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,000
It's it's always an ask. It's never an

2172
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,960
obligation and you know it's it's it's

2173
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,480
never handout and people do that

2174
01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:58,719
respectfully to help a community grow.

2175
01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:01,040
We've seen it in renewables with you

2176
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,719
know wind turbine companies with solar

2177
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:04,800
power companies. But we're starting to

2178
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,120
talk about the big five and I just have

2179
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,600
to sit back and think, okay, how cool

2180
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,360
would it be for students of people here

2181
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,000
in the next 5 10 years say they I'll

2182
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,520
throw out, you know, any one of those

2183
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,280
big five. Yeah, I did an internship with

2184
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,080
them. They subsidized this project. ASU

2185
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,840
would be excited to have this on stream.

2186
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,159
Uh GoodFellows very excited about this.

2187
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,080
There's there's things that move forward

2188
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,600
that make it applicable for everybody to

2189
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:32,880
actually get some benefit out of this.

2190
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,920
So, I I know we've talked about um kind

2191
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,199
of the school boundaries here on the

2192
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:38,639
profit. Now, the majority of this lies

2193
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:40,960
in the very best school district and due

2194
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,560
to the Robin Hood law and all of y'all

2195
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,719
are familiar with it. Um all of that

2196
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:46,159
money is going to go to very best and

2197
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,719
then the state's going to take what's

2198
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:50,880
you know the excess part of that and go

2199
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,880
on. But I mean, what has amazed me was

2200
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,560
even in these discussions, y'all were

2201
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,960
open to if there's ideas to help make

2202
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,040
this thing blend to help more schools,

2203
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,800
we will certainly engage in those

2204
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,600
discussions.

2205
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,679
>> Yeah. Um, nobody else has come to town

2206
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:05,920
and ever made that obligation. I mean,

2207
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,520
the fact that you've signed on to do a

2208
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,440
lot of this certainly validates some of

2209
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:12,719
that. So, we appreciate that.

2210
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:14,800
Let me see.

2211
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,719
Okay. So, everyone that sent in a

2212
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:22,639
question, this website went live at 5:30

2213
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:25,520
today. Every question that was submitted

2214
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,320
got summarized and put up here. All

2215
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,320
right. I I I I can't thank staff and

2216
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,280
council for rolling through and putting

2217
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,639
and and I was like, "So, you've put all

2218
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:38,560
of this up?" And they're like, "Yes, we

2219
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,880
have." Okay. If you don't find your

2220
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,719
specific question, it was probably

2221
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:45,679
summarized. All right. We only answered

2222
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:47,520
those questions that we could give you a

2223
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,639
100% factual answer. If it was something

2224
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:53,199
that involved an opinion or was

2225
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:54,960
subjective, it didn't get answered.

2226
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,719
We're not going to back ourselves into a

2227
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:58,000
corner like that. We wouldn't back you

2228
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,920
into a corner like that, but we wanted

2229
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:02,880
to put up everything we could to let you

2230
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,199
see those answers that she submitted.

2231
01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:06,800
I've got a mayor statement on the front

2232
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,239
that talks about my obligation as we go

2233
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:13,040
forward, council's obligation, and I

2234
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,080
will say this at this point,

2235
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,080
and I don't know how many of y'all got a

2236
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,120
tax letter the past week.

2237
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,000
All right, I think two times of y'all

2238
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,920
have sent me an invoice about that. and

2239
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,239
I'm or an email about that and I say I I

2240
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:32,080
get it. But I will say this is the door

2241
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:36,080
and the path moving forward.

2242
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,679
This is a door to make your tax city tax

2243
01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:42,560
rate and county tax rate and school tax

2244
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,639
rate start with a different number and

2245
01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:47,120
that number is lower. The city tax rate

2246
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,880
starts with a seven over time. This

2247
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,440
gives an opportunity uh one of the few

2248
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:54,560
things we talk about because we don't

2249
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,679
know the full money but there's

2250
01:27:55,679 --> 01:27:58,159
franchise fees and there's property tax

2251
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:00,080
there's depending if you hit a certain

2252
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,840
benchmark you know there there may be

2253
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,239
sales tax there maybe not but the

2254
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:08,480
ability of this to help us is the only

2255
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:10,719
amount of money that I've seen in the

2256
01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,159
past nine years and probably for the

2257
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:16,080
next 10 years in front of us a way to

2258
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,360
uh as we say it's a way to see more

2259
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,159
people come here It's a way for to put a

2260
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:24,639
splash pad in every park. All right.

2261
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:28,320
It's a way to I I need two fire

2262
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,600
stations. I don't know if y'all know

2263
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,120
what fire stations cost, but they cost

2264
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,840
$12 million. All right. I need I need 20

2265
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,520
more.

2266
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,400
policemen. All right. We

2267
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,360
are 20 policemen understaffed right now.

2268
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,840
So, the revenue of this helps us

2269
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,960
accomplish those goals. It's not a sales

2270
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,480
pitch. I just want you to understand

2271
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,880
this is a door and it's up to y'all and

2272
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,480
y'all have had lots of input to move

2273
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:57,280
forward with it if you think that's a

2274
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,679
way to move forward or not. Uh with

2275
01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:01,679
that, we're going to move into public

2276
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:03,679
comment. I I think uh we deserve a big

2277
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:07,679
round of applause to Mike and [applause]

2278
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:11,040
Chris for what you've done.

2279
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,639
Gentlemen,

2280
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:15,679
thank you very much.

2281
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:16,080
>> Thank you.

2282
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:27,590
Mike. Appreciate it.

2283
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,760
You going to take that mic back there?

2284
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,880
Gotcha. At this point, as in fashion

2285
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,800
with all of our city council meetings,

2286
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,639
we're going to move into public comment.

2287
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:38,080
People wishing to speak at the city

2288
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,600
council meeting must sign in prior to

2289
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,760
5:30 p.m. Speakers are limited to 3

2290
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,239
minutes. Comments must be relevant to

2291
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,080
the authority of the city. Please state

2292
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,679
your name, address, or single member

2293
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:50,000
district before beginning your remarks.

2294
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,520
Citizens bringing materials for

2295
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,120
distribution to city council members

2296
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,360
must during the meeting must bring a

2297
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,840
minimum of 12 copies. Responses from

2298
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,600
officials will not be provided during

2299
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,920
this portion of the meeting. So,

2300
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,840
Heather, where are you? Heather, how

2301
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,280
many just let me start with this. How

2302
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,880
many public comments do we have signed

2303
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:09,440
up?

2304
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:10,080
>> 30.

2305
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,400
>> All right. So, we have 30 comments. Just

2306
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,639
so you know, they're allowed up to 3

2307
01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:17,280
minutes each. I will tell you, just

2308
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:18,880
because you signed up for it doesn't

2309
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,440
mean you have to provide it. And if your

2310
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:24,239
questions were answered here tonight, I

2311
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:26,400
would say that may help you. We'll be

2312
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,639
here to the very end. Us and council

2313
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:30,480
will. Other people have time

2314
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,719
obligations, but with that, Heather,

2315
01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:34,800
call your first public comment.

2316
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,719
>> Tanya Atkins.

2317
01:30:36,719 --> 01:30:38,320
>> Tanya, where's the timer going to be?

2318
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Heather,

2319
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,590
>> you've got the timer.

2320
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:44,800
I'm not going to sit up here. I'm going

2321
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,400
to go sit over here at the table.

2322
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,760
>> But you are given that and you're on

2323
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,639
film.

2324
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:49,199
>> See this?

2325
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:52,310
>> Yes.

2326
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,639
» Um, good evening, mayor, council man

2327
01:30:54,639 --> 01:30:57,280
members, and skybox representatives. My

2328
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:58,880
name is Tanya Atkins. I'm a resident of

2329
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,679
San Angelo District 2, owner of a Texas

2330
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:03,440
licensed private security company. I got

2331
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:06,400
your six. As reported by the St. Angelo

2332
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:07,840
Standard Times in the city's public

2333
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,440
announcement for tonight's meeting. As we saw, residents have submitted

2334
01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:13,040
numerous questions in advance, including

2335
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,120
the direct question, will construction

2336
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,600
jobs be filled with local community

2337
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,080
companies or out of town workers? This

2338
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,920
question deserves serious attention.

2339
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,920
When work is awarded to local San Angelo

2340
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,600
contractors and service providers, every

2341
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,600
dollar spent typically generates about$

2342
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,600
1.8 to$2.2 in total economic activity.

2343
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,239
on a 16 proposed $16 billion project

2344
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:36,080
like the SATA center with construction

2345
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,920
expected to span several years. That

2346
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,120
would mean roughly 29 to $35 billion in

2347
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,120
total local economic output for St.

2348
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,280
Angelo over the construction period,

2349
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:46,800
including wages for the workers

2350
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,280
contracts with local suppliers and

2351
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,679
spending throughout our own community.

2352
01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:54,080
St. Angela has been has had seen major

2353
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,840
projects in recent years that no public

2354
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,520
records have shown the exact split

2355
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,120
between local and outside contractor

2356
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,920
spending. For example, the recent s uh

2357
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,000
Shannon Medical Center West Texas West

2358
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,400
Tower expansion used an outside prime

2359
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,440
contractor from Alabama. The $41.6

2360
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,920
million Coliseum renovation bond is that

2361
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,760
our taxpayers is paying for is also

2362
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,360
likely to send a large portion of those

2363
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,000
dollars out of town. This data center

2364
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,600
gives us the opportunity to actually

2365
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,239
change that pattern and keep far more of

2366
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:24,560
the economic benefit here when a

2367
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,639
substantial portion of the work instead

2368
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:29,040
goes to national regional firms

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01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,480
headquartered outside of the Koncho

2370
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:32,639
Valley such as Allied Universal, other

2371
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:35,120
companies such based in uh Kurville and

2372
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,320
Sweetwater. Economic leakage can reduce

2373
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,800
uh can reduce that benefit by 30 to 50%

2374
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,480
or more. that could cost San Angela

2375
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:44,880
billions of dollars in lost wages, local

2376
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,639
businesses, revenue, and tax collections

2377
01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:49,199
that never stay here. Council members,

2378
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:51,840
this is our community. Why Why would we

2379
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,520
not do everything possible to keep all

2380
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,120
of that money, the billions of dollars

2381
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,040
circulating here, creating jobs and

2382
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,639
opportunities for our town, our

2383
01:32:58,639 --> 01:33:00,159
families, our neighbors, instead of

2384
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,960
sending them out of town? Security

2385
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,719
services offer a clear practical

2386
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:06,880
opportunity. Large data centers often

2387
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,880
default to national providers. Yet local

2388
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,520
qualified local firms like mine are

2389
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,280
fully capable of delivering professional

2390
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,520
24-hour sight security, access control,

2391
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,679
traffic management, work zones in

2392
01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:19,520
coordination with offduty peace officers

2393
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,360
with faster response, lower trash,

2394
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,440
travel costs, and spending that remains

2395
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:25,760
right here in St. Angelo. Council

2396
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,440
members, I respectfully ask that you and

2397
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:29,440
the project team give meaningful

2398
01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:31,600
preference and consideration to all

2399
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,159
qualified local business and San Angelo

2400
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:36,560
businesses and contractors, not just for

2401
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,960
security, but for any portion of work

2402
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,719
that can be effectively performed from

2403
01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:43,120
within our community. This single

2404
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:44,480
decision could help ensure that San

2405
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:46,159
Angel receives the greatest possible

2406
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,480
economic return from this project and

2407
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,080
keep as many dollars as possible

2408
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,320
circulating right here among among our

2409
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,400
own residents and businesses. Thank you

2410
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,340
for your time.

2411
01:33:56,340 --> 01:34:01,750
[applause]

2412
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:02,880
» Heather second.

2413
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:08,870
>> Steven Markx.

2414
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:15,350
Steven Marx.

2415
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,990
Let's go to the next one. Heather

2416
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,400
» Katherine Bayer.

2417
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:28,719
Katherine Bayer.

2418
01:34:28,719 --> 01:34:30,719
>> Go to the next one.

2419
01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:34,709
>> Adam Jonkey.

2420
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:37,830
» Adam.

2421
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:38,480
» Okay,

2422
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:39,440
>> the next one.

2423
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:43,270
>> Shannon Carpenter.

2424
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,000
» Shannon.

2425
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,440
>> Okay,

2426
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:48,719
>> go the next one. Heather

2427
01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:51,840
>> Libby Grapha.

2428
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,935
>> Libbyy's here. Sorry.

2429
01:34:55,945 --> 01:34:59,510
[applause]

2430
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,719
» Hello. My name is Libby Graa. I am a St.

2431
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:04,960
Angelo resident. I'm sorry. I don't know

2432
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,120
the number of my district,

2433
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,760
>> but I live in I'm in five. Okay, I'm in

2434
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,679
five. There we go. I just know who my

2435
01:35:11,679 --> 01:35:14,719
councilman is. Um, you answered most of

2436
01:35:14,719 --> 01:35:18,400
my questions. I appreciate that. And I

2437
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,600
will look at the website for a little

2438
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,880
more clarity of I I think my answers

2439
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,199
will be there. But the one question I do

2440
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,600
have is who is going to receive all the

2441
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,239
data services?

2442
01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:34,800
I well St. Angelo, you're bringing in

2443
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,520
someone in the big five. Who's going to

2444
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,040
receive all of that service? Um so that

2445
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,080
is that's a question. Um, I am going to

2446
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,960
look for the total amount of gallons you

2447
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,960
plan to use. You said it's going to take

2448
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,840
a 12 months, I believe I understood, to

2449
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:56,320
fill the quantity you need. Um, but I

2450
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,040
didn't get a number. And I'm sure you

2451
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,199
know what that is. You just didn't tell

2452
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:05,360
us that. Um, you did say our utilities

2453
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,360
will not rise with the use you're going

2454
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,679
to be using our water and our

2455
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:14,560
electricity. I think I understood that.

2456
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,400
Um, that's important to me. Um, I'm glad

2457
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,679
you're here explaining this. I hope more

2458
01:36:21,679 --> 01:36:25,440
St. Angelo residents will come. They'll

2459
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:27,760
hopefully if this is going to be online

2460
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,239
or on television, they'll view it and

2461
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:32,080
become informed. [clears throat] Thank

2462
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,506
you for your time,

2463
01:36:35,506 --> 01:36:40,470
[applause]

2464
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:44,667
Heather Wy.

2465
01:36:44,677 --> 01:36:55,590
» [applause]

2466
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,000
» Good evening. My name is Heather Wy. I'm

2467
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,960
a resident of District 3. On November

2468
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,760
19th, 1863, Abraham Lincoln said in his

2469
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,600
favorite speech, the Gettysburg Address,

2470
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,440
that this nation was a government of the

2471
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:08,800
people, by the people, and for the

2472
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,119
people. Isn't it amazing that before St.

2473
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:13,600
Angelo even existed, a man would speak a

2474
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,360
phrase from one of the most historically

2475
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,800
significant speeches in American

2476
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,000
history. And it applies even to you, our

2477
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,560
elected leaders. You are chosen leaders

2478
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,000
elected by the people and for the

2479
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:25,600
people. And weirdly, there's nothing in

2480
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,040
there about rep representing

2481
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,600
corporations or data centers. The choice

2482
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,679
before you is one of humanity, a choice

2483
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:33,520
for the people. Set aside your

2484
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,360
justifications about what this might do

2485
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,679
for the city budget or property taxes

2486
01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:39,440
and consider instead the ways your

2487
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:40,880
people have been trying to communicate

2488
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,800
with you through Facebook posts, the

2489
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,639
Next Door app, yard signs, bumper

2490
01:37:44,639 --> 01:37:47,119
stickers, petitions, and emails. Even if

2491
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,600
they say the same thing, our public

2492
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,320
comments, our presence, your people are

2493
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,080
speaking in many different ways. The

2494
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,920
collective voice is loud. They are

2495
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,679
telling you at a minimum they want a

2496
01:37:57,679 --> 01:37:59,440
moratorum for a full length of time

2497
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,600
allowed by the state. and truly they

2498
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,000
want no data center at all. Can you hear

2499
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,920
the people over the noise pollution of

2500
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,280
the data centers you're trying to bring

2501
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:15,712
into our home? Thank you.

2502
01:38:15,722 --> 01:38:24,070
[applause]

2503
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:28,158
Alli Deo.

2504
01:38:28,168 --> 01:38:39,189
[applause]

2505
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:41,280
» Do I have to tell you my address because

2506
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,320
I'm

2507
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:45,440
>> I'm not in a county specific district.

2508
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:46,239
county resident.

2509
01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:49,119
>> Yeah, county resident. [snorts] And um

2510
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:52,320
I'm just here to reiterate this um

2511
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,560
however you want to spin it, we do not

2512
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,719
have the water resources for hypers

2513
01:38:56,719 --> 01:38:59,520
scale data centers in St. Angelo.

2514
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,000
And the people of Texas don't want the

2515
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,040
765 KV power lines all over the state

2516
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,400
that are needed to power them.

2517
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,560
Those [applause]

2518
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,880
lines will stand taller than the Statue

2519
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,040
of Liberty. And that contains a powerful

2520
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:19,360
symbology, power over liberty. I think I

2521
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,840
speak for the majority of the people in

2522
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,840
this room when I say we want this city

2523
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,960
council to engage in projects that

2524
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,320
empower the people and help make life

2525
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,600
more livable, not schemes that virtually

2526
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,239
enslave us and make the costs of living

2527
01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:38,080
even more unbearable than they already

2528
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,080
are. While the taxpayers and rateayers

2529
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,520
subsidize billionaires and corporations,

2530
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,440
we want you to actually take care of the

2531
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:48,078
watershed and our resources.

2532
01:39:48,078 --> 01:39:48,239
>> [snorts]

2533
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:51,760
>> and not campaign to sell us projects

2534
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,920
that will threaten those resources and

2535
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,920
sacrifice everything that we most value

2536
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,239
here. If [snorts] you really want to

2537
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:00,719
create a legacy, stop trying to sell

2538
01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:03,280
this right now. Start representing the

2539
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,600
people and listen to their concerns and

2540
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,400
their knowledge, not with an ear to sway

2541
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,239
them or prove them wrong, but actually

2542
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:11,600
consider that they might have something

2543
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,119
valid to say that you may have

2544
01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:15,920
overlooked. One thing you're overlooking

2545
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,080
is the fact that the city owns thousands

2546
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,880
of acres of land outside the city limits

2547
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,520
with miles of frontage on the Concho

2548
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,639
River. And you've never once thought to

2549
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:28,480
do one good thing in the interest of

2550
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:30,400
protecting this land as a valuable

2551
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,040
natural resource in the recharge and

2552
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,840
repairarian zone of our primary water

2553
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,040
supply. St. Angelo's city council has

2554
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,280
entertained plans for giant private

2555
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,239
prison complexes, waste gasification

2556
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:46,000
plants where we could burn our trash and

2557
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,760
invite other communities to come burn

2558
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,320
their trash, too.

2559
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,440
The people of St. Angelo managed to get

2560
01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:55,360
the council to come to those senses on

2561
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,360
those two projects, and now we're facing

2562
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,400
data centers. Can we envision something

2563
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,800
that would actually protect our water

2564
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,040
supply with all of these lands that the

2565
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,000
city owns? Other Texas cities have

2566
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,239
invested hundreds of millions of dollars

2567
01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:12,320
raised by either bonds or passed by the

2568
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,679
people or voterapproved 1/8 cent sales

2569
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:18,719
tax to protect hundreds of thousands of

2570
01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:22,480
acres of land in their watersheds.

2571
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:24,719
This city already owns thousands of

2572
01:41:24,719 --> 01:41:27,119
acres of land in our watershed. It's

2573
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:29,520
time you start focusing on protecting

2574
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,400
that and not just exploiting it. And

2575
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,639
until you start rehabilitating that

2576
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:39,840
land, you do not demonstrate any

2577
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,560
semblance of having

2578
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,440
stewardship and we can't trust you.

2579
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:46,719
>> Please wrap up your comments.

2580
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:49,910
>> Okay. Thank you.

2581
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:55,140
[applause]

2582
01:41:55,150 --> 01:41:58,709
» [applause]

2583
01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:06,275
» Jaton Geese.

2584
01:42:06,285 --> 01:42:07,119
[applause]

2585
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:12,159
Hi, Jaton Gizy, District 5. Um, first I

2586
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:14,080
didn't I saw that we weren't going to do

2587
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,719
a cryp crypto mining, but it wasn't

2588
01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:18,880
defined if we would be AI processing

2589
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,440
versus just data storage. I understand

2590
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:23,760
the resources are demands are different

2591
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,600
on that. Um first, why do we want these

2592
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,920
data centers here? Do we have plenty of

2593
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,840
resources here? No, not that.

2594
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,800
Uh what guarantees do we have that their

2595
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,239
water and electric bills will not

2596
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:39,920
increase like we've seen all across the

2597
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,320
nation? Will this be how is this going

2598
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:46,629
to be the exception to the rule?

2599
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:48,800
Is it going to bring a significant

2600
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,520
number of permanent jobs? I don't know

2601
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,159
if it's worth the resources that we have

2602
01:42:54,159 --> 01:42:56,719
that we're exchanging for those. Are we

2603
01:42:56,719 --> 01:42:58,320
equipped to handle the pollution?

2604
01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:59,840
There's no wastewater treatment around

2605
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,000
to treat the chemicals. And I still

2606
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,280
haven't seen any kind of study on the

2607
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,040
fine particulate matter that would be

2608
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,600
produced. Do we have adequate housing or

2609
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,760
even a police force that's available? We

2610
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,920
know the answer to that one, too. There

2611
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:13,440
are so many unknowns when it comes to

2612
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,159
long-term health risk and resource risk.

2613
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:18,639
It has been decided, it hasn't even been

2614
01:43:18,639 --> 01:43:20,400
decided on the federal level who would

2615
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,239
be legally liable if there is harm

2616
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:24,000
caused by data centers, construction of

2617
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,800
or long-term environmental effects. I'm

2618
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,040
afraid that even if it gets decided,

2619
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,440
where will there actually be a company

2620
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,920
to be held liable between all the LLC's

2621
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,679
and foreignowned companies? I can't

2622
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:38,000
imagine tracking any of them down if

2623
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,360
there's a pollution leak or when it

2624
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,880
comes out how harmful these things are

2625
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,280
to humans and animals. All of those are

2626
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,199
good reasons not to build a data center,

2627
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,360
but I feel like it goes so much deeper.

2628
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:48,960
This is the equivalent of building our

2629
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,600
own prison cells, monitoring, flock

2630
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,760
cameras, social score, restrictive

2631
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,159
travel. Please don't pretend that that's

2632
01:43:56,159 --> 01:43:57,840
not where this is leading. And I'm

2633
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,320
pretty sure no one wants that. I know

2634
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,480
investments have been made, but the city

2635
01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:04,239
council is supposed to represent its

2636
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:07,119
constituents, not themselves, and not

2637
01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:09,040
some company from out of town. Why is

2638
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,800
the city council making decisions based

2639
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,719
on opinions for why is it not making on

2640
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:17,440
not making decisions voiced here today

2641
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:21,119
and over the months? We vote on school

2642
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:24,639
bonds because it it's an expense to us.

2643
01:44:24,639 --> 01:44:26,800
this is going to be an expense to us

2644
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,119
whether it's through illatilities

2645
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:34,080
or other um if this is good for us try

2646
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,760
proving it to us and putting it to a

2647
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,557
vote for the public. Thank you,

2648
01:44:39,557 --> 01:44:47,109
[applause]

2649
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:51,337
» Steve Elenius.

2650
01:44:51,347 --> 01:44:55,590
[applause]

2651
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,360
Steve Elenius, president CEO of the San

2652
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,520
Angela Chamber of Commerce, 418 West

2653
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,239
Avenue B. When we talk about the data

2654
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:04,080
centers, one of the most immediate and

2655
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,080
tangible impacts that it can have is on

2656
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,639
our hotel occupancy tax rate or the hot

2657
01:45:08,639 --> 01:45:11,280
tax revenue. During construction phase,

2658
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,440
which will last anywhere between 36 and

2659
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:14,960
60 months, you're going to bring

2660
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,600
hundreds of workers to this community,

2661
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,920
contractors, and specialized crews that

2662
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,320
will be staying in our hotels and

2663
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,280
pumping money into our local economy.

2664
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,360
But it doesn't stop during the

2665
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,840
construction phase. Once the data center

2666
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,159
is built, there'll be technicians, uh,

2667
01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:34,080
corporate visitors, and folks coming to

2668
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,320
this community because of the data

2669
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,480
center. Now, here's where it becomes

2670
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:41,520
transformational. The increased hotel

2671
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,679
tax revenue coming in the community is

2672
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:45,600
going to allow us to have the resources

2673
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,000
to promote this community more, to bring

2674
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,239
more attractions and more events to St.

2675
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:53,840
Angelo. The visitors that stay overnight

2676
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,840
means more, more revenue, and more

2677
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,320
visibility for our community. And then

2678
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,360
finally over the 3 to five year window

2679
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,320
or period of time with a steady increase

2680
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,119
in hotel occupancy, it's going to create

2681
01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:09,199
an opportunity for more hotel

2682
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,119
development in our community, thus

2683
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:12,880
increasing more revenue for the

2684
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,040
community and giving us more resources

2685
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,440
to market the community. So I'm here to

2686
01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:19,679
say I'm in support of it. I appreciate

2687
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:21,280
mayor and city councils for bringing

2688
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,199
this together and giving us a chance to

2689
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:25,600
hear uh present the thoughts and what's

2690
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,440
involved with it. and I think you're

2691
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:29,598
doing an outstanding job. Thank you,

2692
01:46:29,598 --> 01:46:36,229
[applause]

2693
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:47,590
» Gabe Msaka.

2694
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,920
» Good evening, mayor, council, uh,

2695
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,639
citizens of St. Angelo. My name is Gabe

2696
01:46:52,639 --> 01:46:55,199
Manaka and I live in single member

2697
01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:58,159
district 6. I want to begin by

2698
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:00,159
acknowledging that citizens who come

2699
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:03,600
here with concerns deserve to be heard.

2700
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,679
I said this back in January during the I

2701
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:08,159
think it was the January 13th meeting

2702
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:10,159
and I believe all of your voices have

2703
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:13,360
been heard many times. Voices in support

2704
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,679
of the of this opportunity deserve to be

2705
01:47:15,679 --> 01:47:17,840
heard as well.

2706
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,159
And I believe that

2707
01:47:20,159 --> 01:47:22,159
we may just be the silent majority,

2708
01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:24,480
those of us who are in favor of this

2709
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:26,560
data center. And that is why I have

2710
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,880
returned tonight in support of data

2711
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,159
center development in St. Angelo.

2712
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:34,400
I believe it is important that we

2713
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,000
separate

2714
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,639
legitimate questions

2715
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:41,600
from broad assumptions. Not every

2716
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,880
proposal, not every company and not

2717
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,719
every project belongs in the same

2718
01:47:46,719 --> 01:47:50,719
category because of one meeting, one

2719
01:47:50,719 --> 01:47:54,719
rumor or one difficult interaction.

2720
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:56,960
That is exactly why due diligence

2721
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,639
exists.

2722
01:47:58,639 --> 01:48:00,560
I believe

2723
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,159
that due diligence is already occurring

2724
01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:07,280
with the Skybox Box project. I've seen

2725
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,880
it happen. I've se I've seen it being

2726
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,960
talked about and it's the the same facts

2727
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,280
that I heard a year ago are being

2728
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,800
repeated and they're being very

2729
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,440
consistent from the authorities who are

2730
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:21,920
doing and put this together both the

2731
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,800
city as well as Skybox.

2732
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,400
There are many people involved in

2733
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,119
getting this right which includes the

2734
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:31,440
council of city staff, utilities,

2735
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:34,000
engineers, community stakeholders, us

2736
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,560
citizens. Collectively, our job is to

2737
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,199
examine the facts. Infrastructure,

2738
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,600
water, power, economic value, and

2739
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,560
whether project a project fits in Angelo

2740
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:46,639
long term. That process should be

2741
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:48,639
careful and transparent. And I believe

2742
01:48:48,639 --> 01:48:50,800
it is, and I believe that you are being

2743
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,280
transparent. We should also recognize

2744
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,600
the opportunity before us. It's been

2745
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,159
said several times this evening. A major

2746
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:01,199
development project can create years of

2747
01:49:01,199 --> 01:49:03,840
construction work for local trades,

2748
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,440
electric construction, different trades,

2749
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:09,600
contractors, suppliers, and small

2750
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,159
businesses. Beyond construction,

2751
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:14,400
long-term operations can bring

2752
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,960
technology or technical jobs,

2753
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,280
high-paying jobs, facility management

2754
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,360
roles, security maintenance, and

2755
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,520
additional economic activity that

2756
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,719
benefit our community long term. I have

2757
01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:29,679
heard questions about water, noise, and

2758
01:49:29,679 --> 01:49:31,679
infrastructure tonight and months

2759
01:49:31,679 --> 01:49:34,320
leading up to today.

2760
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,960
Those are all fair questions, but when

2761
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,840
answers are provided through study

2762
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,360
agreements and oversight and through

2763
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,280
events like this, they should be taken

2764
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,719
seriously and not misconstrued or

2765
01:49:48,719 --> 01:49:50,560
reported differently in the community or

2766
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,639
on social media.

2767
01:49:52,639 --> 01:49:54,615
Thank you.

2768
01:49:54,615 --> 01:49:59,590
>> [applause]

2769
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,775
» Richard Summers.

2770
01:50:03,785 --> 01:50:18,709
[applause]

2771
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:21,040
Got it.

2772
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:26,709
Okay.

2773
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:28,800
I was kind of stunned to discover that

2774
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,840
Skybox uh let a lease on this land

2775
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,360
instead of going ahead and purchasing

2776
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,080
it, particularly since they've had an

2777
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,159
option on the land since just before the

2778
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:40,400
mayor was elected.

2779
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,320
Um, that shows me something that there's

2780
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,000
a little uncertainty.

2781
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,239
In fact, St. Angelo is entering a period

2782
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:52,719
of hyperscale development with high

2783
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:56,239
uncertainty, increasing friction, as we

2784
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:59,119
can tell, and growing public scrutiny

2785
01:50:59,119 --> 01:51:02,159
seated by the Skybotch Progs Act and

2786
01:51:02,159 --> 01:51:05,520
those to follow. That's not speculation.

2787
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,320
It's happening right now.

2788
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,719
It's going to cause things that we're

2789
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:13,840
not prepared to deal with. One of the

2790
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,480
biggest things in my mind beyond the

2791
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:19,840
water, beyond our energy is we don't

2792
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,960
have the housing even for 6 to 700 extra

2793
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,480
people. We have housing problems right

2794
01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:28,239
now with the citizens that are living

2795
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:29,920
here.

2796
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,800
They need the intention, not a glamorous

2797
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,119
project.

2798
01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:36,800
For example, people dealing with housing

2799
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,520
instability for which this council has

2800
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,080
already been imminently warned regarding

2801
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,119
impacts of the data center come in

2802
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:48,639
that housing arriving eventually doesn't

2803
01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:50,560
float.

2804
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,520
Eventually doesn't house somebody

2805
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,199
tonight.

2806
01:51:55,199 --> 01:51:58,400
It doesn't house somebody tonight nor a

2807
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,119
year from tonight.

2808
01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:05,669
Eventually doesn't work.

2809
01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:07,360
for a lot of reasons and I'm not going

2810
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:08,880
to stand up here and list them all

2811
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,239
because you'll be able to read about

2812
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:13,520
them all on public record. [snorts]

2813
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,239
I am submitting tonight a formal ethics

2814
01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:20,560
complaint addressing issues of Kosa data

2815
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,800
center transparency,

2816
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,639
communication control and public access

2817
01:52:26,639 --> 01:52:29,440
involving most of the upper level staff

2818
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:32,960
and elected officials of this city. That

2819
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,280
complaint stems from what uncertainty

2820
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,840
has already occurred with the data

2821
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,480
center. I proposed a set of ordinances

2822
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:43,040
earlier called the civic ordinances.

2823
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,840
These were designed to keep that from

2824
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,159
happening. I've received no response on

2825
01:52:48,159 --> 01:52:50,639
it, but that's all right.

2826
01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:52,239
By the way, because the city attorney

2827
01:52:52,239 --> 01:52:53,760
has referenced in these ethics

2828
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,840
complaints, I've also requested an

2829
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,239
independent review of them when they are

2830
01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:04,629
complete. Going to do that now.

2831
01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:07,280
I just want to remind you folks, council

2832
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,239
and mayor, when your constituents

2833
01:53:10,239 --> 01:53:12,560
believe they're not being fully informed

2834
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,599
and not being fairly heard, they will

2835
01:53:15,599 --> 01:53:20,390
not acquies.

2836
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,199
They will act.

2837
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:25,528
Thank you.

2838
01:53:25,528 --> 01:53:32,068
[cheering]

2839
01:53:32,078 --> 01:53:36,149
» [applause]

2840
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:41,238
» Wade wall.

2841
01:53:41,248 --> 01:53:50,550
[applause]

2842
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,800
» Hi, I'm Wade Wall. I've been a resident

2843
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:56,000
of this city for nearly a decade at this

2844
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,119
point.

2845
01:53:57,119 --> 01:53:58,320
There's a couple of things I would like

2846
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,119
to address that were glossed over in the

2847
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:05,440
uh first part of the presentation. Um

2848
01:54:05,440 --> 01:54:10,310
sorry, let me get my notes here.

2849
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,040
Phyto remediation.

2850
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,280
They uh they talked about that as a

2851
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,119
possible way to offset the heavy metal

2852
01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:21,280
um heavy metals that will be leeching

2853
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,840
into the ground. Phyto remediation has

2854
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,560
never been used on scale.

2855
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,800
at all.

2856
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,040
So, you just want to use some untested

2857
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:35,760
technology on us uh to um to to offset

2858
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:40,000
the ec um the ecological

2859
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,840
uh sorry, I'm not good at public

2860
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,480
speaking. Uh the ecological uh

2861
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,840
ramifications of this data center. So,

2862
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,880
without any sort of long-term plan

2863
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,560
studies on that, you just want to use

2864
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,880
that. That's fine. Okay. I'm going to

2865
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:56,400
bounce around to something else. You

2866
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,599
said the tenant will be um you don't

2867
01:54:59,599 --> 01:55:02,000
have the exact name of who the tenant is

2868
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,159
going to be. So, it could be Palunteer.

2869
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:06,159
It could be, you know, any number of one

2870
01:55:06,159 --> 01:55:08,480
of these AI companies. Palanteer

2871
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,360
recently made a manifesto that they

2872
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:16,960
posted on Twitter talking about their what they want to use their um

2873
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,920
resources for for the future

2874
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,320
including AIdriven

2875
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,480
weapons systems

2876
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,960
that this data center could potentially

2877
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:31,199
be used for. I would like to see you a

2878
01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:33,199
um

2879
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:35,520
sorry I'm I'm a little frustrated right

2880
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,000
now at the moment. Um, I would like to

2881
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:39,840
see possibly

2882
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:43,599
legislation or um statutes that would

2883
01:55:43,599 --> 01:55:45,840
disbar them from using this for that

2884
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,760
because I would not like our tax dollars

2885
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:52,159
being used for killing people. I think a

2886
01:55:52,159 --> 01:55:53,199
lot of people would like to believe

2887
01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:56,480
that. Um, sorry, let me get my notes

2888
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,080
again.

2889
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,000
not good at public speaking, so

2890
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:05,440
sorry. Um, another thing, uh, closed

2891
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,159
loop loop systems are not reliable at

2892
01:56:08,159 --> 01:56:11,119
this point. There have been multiple,

2893
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:14,239
um, studies being shown and I I don't

2894
01:56:14,239 --> 01:56:15,760
have them right here. Again, phones at

2895
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,280
1%. So, um, that that show that they

2896
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,000
have not been fully uh, all the kinks

2897
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,080
have been worked out of that system yet.

2898
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:29,920
Um, also the ex um the wastewater what

2899
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:31,599
are the consequences for violating the

2900
01:56:31,599 --> 01:56:33,599
wastewater statutes? If it's a fine,

2901
01:56:33,599 --> 01:56:40,320
then that's just a fee. You know, it's not anything that will uh

2902
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,040
it's not anything that will be uh

2903
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,119
something that can

2904
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:46,960
Sorry again, not good at public

2905
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,639
speaking. Um it's just I don't know why

2906
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:53,840
we're doing this. Why are we doing this?

2907
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:59,706
So,

2908
01:56:59,716 --> 01:57:03,750
[applause]

2909
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:08,221
Elizabeth Morales.

2910
01:57:08,231 --> 01:57:20,390
[applause]

2911
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,639
Hello, my name is Elizabeth Morales. I

2912
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:24,080
live in district 4. I have been a

2913
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:28,320
resident here for over 30 years. Um I'm

2914
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:29,920
also not very good at public speaking,

2915
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,000
but I am very frustrated with especially

2916
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,920
how this meeting has been run this

2917
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,560
evening. Um

2918
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,960
essentially it was a sales pitch, all of

2919
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:42,880
it. And snake oil lies over and over

2920
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,199
again. Anybody with the internet knows

2921
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:49,040
what the numbers are. Um,

2922
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:52,800
with this I do also want to say that uh

2923
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,960
with that 200 foot buffer that

2924
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:57,760
everybody's so proud and in awe of these

2925
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,159
centers radiate

2926
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:04,159
up to 16 degrees of increased

2927
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:07,199
temperatures up to six miles even more

2928
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:08,880
depending on how the weather tends to be

2929
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,080
that day.

2930
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,639
Paul and its surrounding areas within

2931
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:18,159
Harriet community is going to be up to

2932
01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:20,639
130 degrees what in the summertime most

2933
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:22,960
of the year and we're just supposed to

2934
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,040
deal with that? I don't think so. I'm

2935
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,159
sorry. Um also with the higher cost of

2936
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:30,480
living and

2937
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,719
taxes going up, everything going up,

2938
01:58:32,719 --> 01:58:36,159
utilities going up because they will.

2939
01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:37,840
The higher cost of living is going to

2940
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,800
bring more homelessness to all of us,

2941
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,480
not just those who are kind of on the

2942
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,560
fence now. A lot of us are going to be

2943
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:48,960
dealing with bills, unpaid bills,

2944
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,040
and worse. I mean, there's going to be a

2945
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:52,960
lot more people out on the streets, and

2946
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:54,800
when that happens, there's a lot more

2947
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,679
crime. And our mayor has already stated

2948
01:58:57,679 --> 01:59:01,360
that the police force is

2949
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:04,400
at a lack right now. And so I mean I

2950
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,080
don't understand how this could be even

2951
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,159
brought up for consideration. This is a

2952
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:11,599
horrible idea. This city, this area of

2953
01:59:11,599 --> 01:59:14,000
Texas cannot support this type of data

2954
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:15,840
center. This is not just a data center.

2955
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,000
It's a mega data center. And it's not

2956
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:19,760
just one building. It's going to be

2957
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,800
eight, 12, 14 once that one building

2958
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,880
first comes. Plenty more are already

2959
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,360
planned behind it.

2960
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,960
We already know of three coming in our

2961
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,560
area that we're actively fighting right

2962
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:32,560
now. We're going to be surrounded with

2963
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,199
data centers, each one of them bringing

2964
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:37,760
up to 16 degrees of increased

2965
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,159
temperatures.

2966
01:59:40,159 --> 01:59:42,719
I mean, it just I can't wrap my brain

2967
01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:45,679
around it.

2968
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:49,360
And I mean, that's all I've got. Thank

2969
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:57,868
you,

2970
01:59:57,878 --> 01:59:59,910
[applause]

2971
01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:07,692
Antonio Martinez.

2972
02:00:07,702 --> 02:00:16,470
[applause]

2973
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,560
Uh, good evening, council. I'm Antonio

2974
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:20,800
Martinez, a resident of single member

2975
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,599
district 4. Um, you've heard me speak a

2976
02:00:23,599 --> 02:00:25,840
few times. Uh, today I am also

2977
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:28,639
unscripted. I'm just going to ask some

2978
02:00:28,639 --> 02:00:31,199
things that are should be obvious and

2979
02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:33,040
it's just purely a rhetorical question,

2980
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,679
but um, how can we guarantee the ethics

2981
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:38,320
of what data would be stored um, if this

2982
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:40,239
is just leased out to another company?

2983
02:00:40,239 --> 02:00:43,520
because that's another shell of uh

2984
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,960
deniability or accountability removed

2985
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,639
from where it should be. So I mean you

2986
02:00:50,639 --> 02:00:54,159
have Grock owned by Elon Musk submitting

2987
02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:57,520
CSAM child sexual abuse material and uh

2988
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,840
being shared on his website being

2989
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,719
created by AI. We have women with deep

2990
02:01:02,719 --> 02:01:05,199
fakes being circulated. We don't know

2991
02:01:05,199 --> 02:01:07,199
where these where this data is stored.

2992
02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:09,119
We can't guarantee that. That's one

2993
02:01:09,119 --> 02:01:13,189
concern. So, excuse me. [clears throat]

2994
02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:15,440
And another concern is that we we talk

2995
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,920
about bringing in people from outside to

2996
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:19,440
work construction jobs and then they

2997
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,360
fill up our hotels and it brings in all

2998
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,199
this revenue, but it also brings in

2999
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:24,800
profit and that profit is not

3000
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:26,159
transferred to working people that have

3001
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:30,159
to supply the the the services to these

3002
02:01:30,159 --> 02:01:32,239
workers, hotel workers, food service

3003
02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:34,239
workers. These people are out working

3004
02:01:34,239 --> 02:01:36,320
right now in McDonald's, Walmart, they

3005
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:38,800
can't be here. All of us here have the

3006
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:42,719
ability to be here. So this isn't the end all beall of who has something

3007
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:44,560
to say. Those people are also going to

3008
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,400
suffer from this too. And and all that

3009
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:48,159
money coming in, they don't see the

3010
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:56,080
benefits of that. They have to stay and work the same job that they have and hope that they get a magnanimous $1

3011
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,800
raise after a year, which is 40 bucks a

3012
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,840
week. Wow. You know, so I think there's

3013
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:03,679
a lot of questions that need to be

3014
02:02:03,679 --> 02:02:05,760
really considered

3015
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,639
such as that. uh these benefits may

3016
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:10,960
benefit some people that can reinvest

3017
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,239
that money into the community, but what

3018
02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:14,000
does that matter if none of us can spend

3019
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,920
the money to live in the community? It's

3020
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:19,910
ridiculous. Um

3021
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,400
I think that if we continue in this

3022
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,480
fashion where we just gaslight most of

3023
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,159
the public into saying that this is good

3024
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:28,639
for us without being completely

3025
02:02:28,639 --> 02:02:30,800
transparent through vetted questions and

3026
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,599
whatnot, it it it it just erodess trust.

3027
02:02:33,599 --> 02:02:36,719
It's it's it's not acceptable to me. Um,

3028
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:39,119
I wish I had more prepared data sets and

3029
02:02:39,119 --> 02:02:41,520
everything else, but um, normal people

3030
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:43,440
are expected to become experts in the

3031
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,520
face of corporations that have these

3032
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,280
people to provide them talking points

3033
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,560
because we're told that we're being

3034
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,320
presented with facts today, but those

3035
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,400
are talking points. These are these are

3036
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:57,679
practiced, rehearsed responses. So, we still don't have the trust that that

3037
02:02:57,679 --> 02:02:59,040
this is going to go the way that we're

3038
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,599
being told. And even if it does, it

3039
02:03:01,599 --> 02:03:04,320
still isn't provably beneficial to the

3040
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:06,560
majority of us, the 100,000 some odd

3041
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,320
people that live in the area. Uh, that's

3042
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,105
all I have.

3043
02:03:11,105 --> 02:03:17,669
[applause]

3044
02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:21,990
Rebecca Ridge.

3045
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:27,470
» Rebecca Ridge.

3046
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:34,550
» [applause]

3047
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,639
» Hi, I'm Rebecca Ridge and I live in

3048
02:03:36,639 --> 02:03:40,320
district 5. Um, [sighs and gasps]

3049
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,360
good evening city council members.

3050
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,280
I was born and raised here as was my

3051
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:47,599
mother. My grandfather was the mayor in

3052
02:03:47,599 --> 02:03:52,560
the 50s. He brought water to St. Angelo.

3053
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,040
He was responsible for building OC

3054
02:03:55,040 --> 02:03:57,360
Fiser. It used to be called the Bryant

3055
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,760
Reservoir.

3056
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,560
>> I'm sorry. Thanks.

3057
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:06,639
Okay. Water is life.

3058
02:04:06,639 --> 02:04:09,840
Without it, nothing else matters.

3059
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:12,400
Data centers threaten that life. They

3060
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,639
consume enormous amounts of water and

3061
02:04:14,639 --> 02:04:17,280
energy. If our water is gone or

3062
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,800
contaminated, no project, no revenue can

3063
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,480
save us.

3064
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:24,480
We cannot trade our future for

3065
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,840
short-term gains. Do not be blinded by

3066
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:30,800
crazy promises of money. State tax

3067
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:32,719
abatements for these centers shift the

3068
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:35,760
burden to us. The promised revenue means

3069
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,639
nothing if water is gone or our quality

3070
02:04:38,639 --> 02:04:41,920
of life is negatively impacted. City

3071
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,960
services cannot help a community without

3072
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:49,440
water. Clean water comes first, always.

3073
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:51,520
Just yesterday, there was a fatality in

3074
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,280
Abalene from one of the data center

3075
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:56,239
construction gravel trucks.

3076
02:04:56,239 --> 02:04:59,360
And another example, Abalene hired 1,200

3077
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:04,880
workers. Guess how many were local? 34.

3078
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:08,159
St. Angelo deserves smarter solutions.

3079
02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:10,880
We have bright, creative people. We need

3080
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,119
to come together to find solutions to

3081
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:15,840
help the city with funding needs while

3082
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:18,480
protecting our resources.

3083
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:20,719
for the ordinance. The proposed setbacks

3084
02:05:20,719 --> 02:05:23,520
are too small. 200 feet in residential

3085
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,679
areas is

3086
02:05:25,679 --> 02:05:28,320
not enough. It's tight. 50 feet in the

3087
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:30,800
county is worse. Our neighborhoods will

3088
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:33,599
bear the risk. Worst case, when things

3089
02:05:33,599 --> 02:05:36,400
go south, owners behind shell

3090
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,560
corporations will walk away and leave us

3091
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,159
with no recompense, no recompense via

3092
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:45,360
bankruptcies. Pause any action on data

3093
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:48,159
centers for a year. Do not rush us. Let

3094
02:05:48,159 --> 02:05:50,960
us find options. Make this ordinance

3095
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,920
stronger. Protect our water. Protect our

3096
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:57,520
future. Mr. Mayor, please remember your

3097
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,560
job is to represent the people, not the

3098
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:05,981
data centers. City

3099
02:06:05,991 --> 02:06:09,270
[applause]

3100
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:11,920
city council members should not sign

3101
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:15,040
non-disclosure agreements. You represent

3102
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,127
us.

3103
02:06:17,127 --> 02:06:18,159
>> [applause]

3104
02:06:18,159 --> 02:06:21,920
>> Stop selling our city down the river. I

3105
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,560
s aside I sincerely believe this is

3106
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:27,599
going to be used for AI data warfare. I

3107
02:06:27,599 --> 02:06:30,560
mean for for warfare period. That's the

3108
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:32,880
popular topic now. That's why there's

3109
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,840
such a press.

3110
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,760
I think it's

3111
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:41,352
done. Thanks.

3112
02:06:41,362 --> 02:06:47,990
[applause]

3113
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:52,487
Glenda Bacon.

3114
02:06:52,497 --> 02:07:03,750
[applause]

3115
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:05,920
I'm Glenda Bacon and I live out in the

3116
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:08,159
county. I don't live in the city. Uh but

3117
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:11,199
I did attend the Dove Creek and uh my

3118
02:07:11,199 --> 02:07:14,000
heart is for the county because I have

3119
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,360
people out there with no water having it

3120
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,360
hauled in and everything like that.

3121
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,320
Water's always been a problem, not just

3122
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,719
in the county, but in the S St. Angelo

3123
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:27,440
area. You see that because you're only

3124
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:31,360
limited to two two days to water and and

3125
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,679
everything. So, it's always been a

3126
02:07:33,679 --> 02:07:35,920
concern. It's a concern. I grew up in

3127
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:38,159
Andrews, Texas, West Texas. I think

3128
02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:40,960
Andrews could do it because they have a

3129
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:43,280
lot of water or they used to have a lot

3130
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:47,520
of water. But I want to thank Skybox.

3131
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:49,599
Thank you for your presentation because

3132
02:07:49,599 --> 02:07:52,079
the presentation out at Dove Creek the

3133
02:07:52,079 --> 02:07:54,719
other night, they did not know their

3134
02:07:54,719 --> 02:07:59,119
stuff at all. At all. So, it was a

3135
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:01,520
disaster out there. Thank you, city

3136
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:05,040
council. Yes, I am married to an elected

3137
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:07,840
official and I understand where you come

3138
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:10,239
from. You have hard decisions to make

3139
02:08:10,239 --> 02:08:13,199
and everything else like that. Um, I'm

3140
02:08:13,199 --> 02:08:15,520
just sharing my heart because I was in

3141
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:18,639
Abene. It's a disaster over there. It's

3142
02:08:18,639 --> 02:08:20,880
a total disaster. Our son lives over

3143
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,679
there. People are suffering over there

3144
02:08:23,679 --> 02:08:26,320
because of the data center. I went out

3145
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,599
to the data center. It is disaster. The

3146
02:08:29,599 --> 02:08:31,760
lady was talking about the trucks, the

3147
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,560
fatalities and stuff like that. I just

3148
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:38,079
would like to see our city council

3149
02:08:38,079 --> 02:08:41,040
um your city council because I don't

3150
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:42,880
vote for these people but I know these

3151
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,920
people and I respect every one of you

3152
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,639
because I know you on a personal basis.

3153
02:08:48,639 --> 02:08:51,199
But I would like for you to just to take

3154
02:08:51,199 --> 02:08:56,719
a step back, consider um everything um

3155
02:08:56,719 --> 02:08:58,880
that you've heard here tonight. There's

3156
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,800
a lot of pros, there's a lot of cons.

3157
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:05,520
I'm I'm afraid you may not be hearing a

3158
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:09,280
lot of the cons, but if people don't

3159
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,840
realize, they put a halt on 50% of these

3160
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:15,840
data centers right now. I don't know if

3161
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,880
y'all heard that, but 50% of the data

3162
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,199
centers, which would probably include

3163
02:09:21,199 --> 02:09:23,920
St. Angelo, there's a 50% because they

3164
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:28,480
cannot get parts. Another thing,

3165
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,199
our governor

3166
02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:33,920
has taken a lot of money,

3167
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:37,199
500,000 from black something. Skybox

3168
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:39,280
probably knows it, but if you go into

3169
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:42,480
our Governor Abbott and look at his

3170
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,440
financials and all the money he has

3171
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:49,040
taken from data centers, it's pathetic.

3172
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,880
I'm sorry.

3173
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:52,624
Let's

3174
02:09:52,624 --> 02:09:54,239
[applause]

3175
02:09:54,239 --> 02:09:59,440
we got we all of the cities are being

3176
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,159
buffaloed by Governor Abbott. And I'm

3177
02:10:02,159 --> 02:10:04,480
sorry, but that's what's happened.

3178
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,880
There's 444

3179
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:10,239
data centers already in the state of

3180
02:10:10,239 --> 02:10:16,194
Texas. We don't need anymore.

3181
02:10:16,204 --> 02:10:20,780
[applause]

3182
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:24,149
» [applause]

3183
02:10:24,159 --> 02:10:28,640
» Nancy Treadwell.

3184
02:10:28,650 --> 02:10:37,430
[applause]

3185
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,280
Good evening. I'm Nancy Treadwell. I'm

3186
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:42,405
in District 6. Remember the chameleon?

3187
02:10:42,405 --> 02:10:42,960
[clears throat]

3188
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:45,280
He was a well-b bred chameleon and

3189
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:46,880
nothing could be brought against his

3190
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,440
record. As a chameleon, he had done the

3191
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,199
things he should have done and left

3192
02:10:51,199 --> 02:10:52,880
undone the things that should have been

3193
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:55,679
left undone. He was a first class

3194
02:10:55,679 --> 02:10:58,560
unimpeachable chameleon and nobody had

3195
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,360
anything on him. But he came to a scotch

3196
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:05,360
plaid and tried to cross it. In order to

3197
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:08,159
cross it, he had to imitate imitate six

3198
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:10,719
different yarn colors. first one and

3199
02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:12,639
then another and back to the first or

3200
02:11:12,639 --> 02:11:14,880
second. He was a brave chameleon and

3201
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:17,679
died at the crossroads true to his

3202
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:20,159
chameleon instincts.

3203
02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:22,880
What kind of liar are you? People lie

3204
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,280
because they don't remember clearly what

3205
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,760
they saw. People lie because they can't

3206
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:29,760
help making a story better than it was

3207
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:32,239
the way it happened. People tell white

3208
02:11:32,239 --> 02:11:35,440
lies so as to be decent to others.

3209
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,000
People lie in a pinch, hating to do it,

3210
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,880
but lying on because it might be worse.

3211
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:43,119
And people lie just to be liars for a

3212
02:11:43,119 --> 02:11:46,560
crooked personal gain. What sort of a

3213
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,199
liar are you? Which of these liars are

3214
02:11:49,199 --> 02:11:52,560
you? This was written by Carl Sandberg

3215
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:57,280
in the people yes 1936.

3216
02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:59,760
Which brings me to my questions. The

3217
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,480
zoning you're talking about isn't in

3218
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:04,960
place yet. But it sounds as if you

3219
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,280
already have a deal going. In West

3220
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:11,920
Texas, a person's word is his bond

3221
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:15,760
and verbal contracts count. So how

3222
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:18,159
binding is what you have said tonight?

3223
02:12:18,159 --> 02:12:20,719
Is it legally binding?

3224
02:12:20,719 --> 02:12:22,719
In addition, this is going the funds are

3225
02:12:22,719 --> 02:12:26,000
going into the very best ISD. Correct.

3226
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,400
SISD will get no funds from the center.

3227
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:31,040
So why are you saying it will?

3228
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:32,800
And why have you had us sitting back

3229
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,599
here listening to a back and forth

3230
02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:37,119
conversation

3231
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:39,760
with no facts and not inviting us to

3232
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:44,226
join? Thank you.

3233
02:12:44,236 --> 02:12:51,431
[applause]

3234
02:12:51,441 --> 02:12:52,239
» [applause]

3235
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:57,326
>> Riley Rodriguez.

3236
02:12:57,336 --> 02:13:05,270
[applause]

3237
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:06,639
» How y'all doing? My name is Riley

3238
02:13:06,639 --> 02:13:09,599
Rodriguez. I'm actually from Abalene. I

3239
02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:12,639
am uh one of the data centers are what

3240
02:13:12,639 --> 02:13:14,159
actually got me to run for a political

3241
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:15,520
office. And I've been going around the

3242
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:17,199
counties trying to let everybody know

3243
02:13:17,199 --> 02:13:20,880
exactly what you're going to get to see.

3244
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,199
Not 6 months down the road, not a couple

3245
02:13:23,199 --> 02:13:27,119
speculation reports, not in six years,

3246
02:13:27,119 --> 02:13:29,760
when they get here.

3247
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,360
I could give you a big speech, but I'm

3248
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,280
just going to tell you a small story.

3249
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:34,719
This Saturday, we had a woman from the

3250
02:13:34,719 --> 02:13:37,199
BCFS come in and speak to us about some

3251
02:13:37,199 --> 02:13:38,719
of the issues we're facing in our

3252
02:13:38,719 --> 02:13:40,960
district. She works with families. She

3253
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:43,119
works with uh people who have struggled

3254
02:13:43,119 --> 02:13:45,040
with drug addiction, lost their kids.

3255
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:46,880
She helps them get back on their feet,

3256
02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:49,360
get their lives back right. Okay. That

3257
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,239
morning, she was late because she had to

3258
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:55,040
handle a case in which a single mother

3259
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:56,639
who is trying to recover from drug

3260
02:13:56,639 --> 02:13:59,599
addiction needed to get a hotel room

3261
02:13:59,599 --> 02:14:01,920
because her rent went up and if she

3262
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:03,520
didn't pay it, she was going to be

3263
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:05,520
evicted.

3264
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:07,679
We have families showing up at our

3265
02:14:07,679 --> 02:14:09,199
family helping Hamilton centers that

3266
02:14:09,199 --> 02:14:12,000
haven't been there in decades.

3267
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:16,560
It's it's not it's not a a an abstract

3268
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,320
thought. It's not something that might

3269
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:20,639
happen. Oh, maybe it'll happen. It this

3270
02:14:20,639 --> 02:14:23,040
is what we are seeing in our town. We

3271
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:26,800
have 134,000 people. We dwarf

3272
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,560
St. Angelo when it comes to that. And we

3273
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,040
don't have the housing. We don't have

3274
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,040
the housing. Go look on Zillow right

3275
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:35,199
now. You can find a wonderful

3276
02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:36,960
one-bedroom apartment on at the back of

3277
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:38,560
somebody's house for a thousand bucks a

3278
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:40,800
month. And you better believe that them

3279
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:42,239
bills ain't going to be paid as part of

3280
02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:44,560
that. That's what's happening in our

3281
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:46,480
district. Another thing we're seeing,

3282
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,400
people are losing their houses. When

3283
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,400
people get desperate, they start making

3284
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:52,400
decisions they otherwise wouldn't make.

3285
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:54,560
I volunteer and I help out with beyond

3286
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,520
trafficking. Guess what we're seeing?

3287
02:14:57,520 --> 02:15:00,159
More trafficking, sex trafficking, labor

3288
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:03,040
trafficking. more of it has come to our

3289
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:04,719
city and it is because people are

3290
02:15:04,719 --> 02:15:06,320
getting kicked out of their houses and

3291
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:08,880
having to live on the street. There are

3292
02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:12,239
much more sinister dark things that are

3293
02:15:12,239 --> 02:15:15,440
a foot than even water and energy. Guys,

3294
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:17,520
I'm I'm I'm telling you right now, I've

3295
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,520
been fighting it for two years. Our city

3296
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:21,599
council cut deals at 8:00 in the morning

3297
02:15:21,599 --> 02:15:23,280
with two hours notice to the community

3298
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:26,639
and all signed NDAs. You can't get a

3299
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:28,079
word out of them other than this is

3300
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:30,480
going to be great for us.

3301
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:34,480
Let me tell you another thing. They've cut that deal in Sweetwater. One

3302
02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:35,520
of the fellows brought it up a minute

3303
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:37,840
ago. That's a great point, man. We're

3304
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:40,159
getting ate up with workers right now.

3305
02:15:40,159 --> 02:15:41,360
We're going to get ate up with workers

3306
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:42,639
from Sweetwater. We're getting ate up

3307
02:15:42,639 --> 02:15:43,840
with workers from Haskell. We're going

3308
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:45,599
to get ate up with workers from Albany.

3309
02:15:45,599 --> 02:15:47,840
And guess what? When we run out of hotel

3310
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,800
rooms, I worked in the oil field. I'll

3311
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:54,560
drive three hours to make some money.

3312
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:57,440
So, it doesn't stop. Okay. The scale

3313
02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:00,239
might be fine. Hey, whatever.

3314
02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:03,840
It's it it is it is widespread and it is

3315
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:07,944
a a 90minute drive. Think about it.

3316
02:16:07,944 --> 02:16:18,709
[applause]

3317
02:16:18,719 --> 02:16:23,654
Vernon Hegler

3318
02:16:23,664 --> 02:16:32,709
[applause]

3319
02:16:32,719 --> 02:16:34,399
I'm Bern Haggler. I live off of

3320
02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:37,509
Armstrong.

3321
02:16:37,519 --> 02:16:41,359
Heather heard my I have a proposal. I

3322
02:16:41,359 --> 02:16:43,439
think the city should send a team of at

3323
02:16:43,439 --> 02:16:46,479
least three people to go to a facility

3324
02:16:46,479 --> 02:16:48,319
that operates as the one they've

3325
02:16:48,319 --> 02:16:50,880
described to verify all the physical

3326
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:52,639
operation.

3327
02:16:52,639 --> 02:16:54,479
I propose a panel of at least three

3328
02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:56,160
people. I would think probably somebody

3329
02:16:56,160 --> 02:16:58,240
from the water department who has

3330
02:16:58,240 --> 02:17:00,639
hands-on experience and knows all the

3331
02:17:00,639 --> 02:17:04,080
paperwork involved that a facility like

3332
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:08,080
this would have to turn into the EPA.

3333
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:10,559
Then an engineer who doesn't have any

3334
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:12,800
ties really to the any of the

3335
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:16,399
governments to observe and report on

3336
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:19,840
things. And then a Joe Blow who has

3337
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:21,519
industrial experience that knows about

3338
02:17:21,519 --> 02:17:24,479
cooling towers and and this sort of

3339
02:17:24,479 --> 02:17:26,639
thing who can go in is not going to be

3340
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:28,080
blown away by something they haven't

3341
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:31,120
seen who can verify you know what the

3342
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:32,800
fellow reading of the water reports and

3343
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:34,960
so forth.

3344
02:17:34,960 --> 02:17:36,960
Uh I understood the gentleman in the

3345
02:17:36,960 --> 02:17:41,120
dark coat talking about the u the

3346
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:44,160
different sort of uh heat exchangers and

3347
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:46,080
so forth. understood what he was talking

3348
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:49,760
about. I think there's been so much

3349
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:52,000
information put out there that nobody

3350
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:54,639
knows what to believe to a large extent.

3351
02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:57,280
And I think we sent a panel got some

3352
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:00,479
real information from people's neighbors

3353
02:18:00,479 --> 02:18:01,840
could come back and say, "Well, we went

3354
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:03,439
and saw as far as the physical

3355
02:18:03,439 --> 02:18:05,519
parameters, what they're talking about

3356
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:07,120
is on the level. It's not going to

3357
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:10,880
affect our water future and so forth."

3358
02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:13,840
I've lived here for over 40 years. I

3359
02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:16,080
drive downtown and I see the old signs

3360
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:19,120
from when this was the wool capital of

3361
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:21,760
the world. Now we just barely have

3362
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:25,120
enough to talk about. Uh

3363
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:29,120
I've seen our one various government or

3364
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,200
another. This city has gotten short

3365
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:34,399
changed. Uh

3366
02:18:34,399 --> 02:18:36,719
do not envy y'all people have to try to

3367
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:38,880
deal with making this decision. It's a

3368
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:41,679
big decision, but

3369
02:18:41,679 --> 02:18:44,240
somehow I've I've seen us turn away

3370
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:45,599
projects that would have been good for

3371
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:51,200
the city. And uh I think this should be

3372
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:54,080
some expert to try to get

3373
02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:56,880
clear away all the smog and get down to

3374
02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:59,359
some sort of real information that

3375
02:18:59,359 --> 02:19:02,240
everybody could the council could make a

3376
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,719
judgment on and that the citizens could

3377
02:19:04,719 --> 02:19:08,725
feel about what happens. Thank you.

3378
02:19:08,725 --> 02:19:13,910
>> [applause]

3379
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:23,125
» Shelby Storm.

3380
02:19:23,135 --> 02:19:29,509
[applause]

3381
02:19:29,519 --> 02:19:33,599
My name is Shelby Sturm. I am a county

3382
02:19:33,599 --> 02:19:38,160
resident. I own a property in um St.

3383
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,319
Angelo. I apologize. I'm not familiar

3384
02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:43,040
with what district number that is. I'm

3385
02:19:43,040 --> 02:19:46,719
here today as a farm wife raising a

3386
02:19:46,719 --> 02:19:48,960
fourth generation farmer which is

3387
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:51,359
probably the youngest citizen of St.

3388
02:19:51,359 --> 02:19:53,920
Angelo in this room and I'm proud that

3389
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:57,439
he is taking part of this process.

3390
02:19:57,439 --> 02:19:59,840
We all know that data centers require an

3391
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:03,200
immense amount of water for cooling.

3392
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:06,640
Water tables will lower regardless of

3393
02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:10,080
what is promised to us. That will affect

3394
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,720
irrigation of crops and strain local

3395
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:16,479
aquifers. Crops and citizens will also

3396
02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:19,280
be impacted by what are called heat

3397
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:22,389
islands.

3398
02:20:22,399 --> 02:20:24,399
We are concerned about chemical

3399
02:20:24,399 --> 02:20:27,680
contamination from the cooling systems.

3400
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:31,520
We want concrete asurances, regulations,

3401
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:34,560
and independent regular testing. Not

3402
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:38,080
corporate talking heads, not hopes and

3403
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:40,960
prayers, not passing the buck to the

3404
02:20:40,960 --> 02:20:44,240
next regulatory authority. We have

3405
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,720
already had breaches of our so-called

3406
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:49,040
prohibited wastewater contaminants by

3407
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:52,319
Ethicon. We do not want to experience

3408
02:20:52,319 --> 02:20:54,319
further exposures.

3409
02:20:54,319 --> 02:20:56,800
Your so-called self- testing and

3410
02:20:56,800 --> 02:21:01,040
reporting is what I think unacceptable.

3411
02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:04,160
If the water is so similar to what

3412
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:06,160
you're pulling in is what you're putting

3413
02:21:06,160 --> 02:21:08,640
back into our sewer and wastewater

3414
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,120
systems, then why don't you keep reusing

3415
02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:13,359
it?

3416
02:21:13,359 --> 02:21:17,750
We have already seen [applause]

3417
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:20,880
We've already seen realtime reports of

3418
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:23,359
the impacts caused by high power demands

3419
02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:26,080
and infrastructure of AI data centers

3420
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:27,920
driving up electricity rates of

3421
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:30,720
surrounding residents and farmers. We

3422
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,200
oppose new power lines constructed

3423
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,760
through any farmland.

3424
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:38,640
What you intend to bring to our doorstep

3425
02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:41,200
is noise and light pollution from

3426
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:44,240
warehouse style facilities. Construction

3427
02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:46,560
and traffic influx pushed down the

3428
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:49,920
throats of a quiet rural area. We have

3429
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:52,399
seen dangerous construction traffic

3430
02:21:52,399 --> 02:21:55,520
already from the solar farm out in Eola.

3431
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:59,040
My daughter rides the school bus with

3432
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:02,720
some of these semis and other big

3433
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:06,160
vehicles and have had reports of near

3434
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:09,040
traffic accidents. We refuse to accept

3435
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:12,080
any proposal tied to byright approval.

3436
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:14,399
It is a dangerous precedent to set

3437
02:22:14,399 --> 02:22:17,040
giving a cart launch approval for future

3438
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:20,960
expansion. We furthermore demand no tax

3439
02:22:20,960 --> 02:22:23,359
abatement and agreements ever.

3440
02:22:23,359 --> 02:22:26,240
Corporations must pay their fair share.

3441
02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:28,720
I've had enough of corporate talk in my

3442
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:32,319
life to call bull when I hear it. Let me

3443
02:22:32,319 --> 02:22:36,080
say, keep your greedy and gluttonous AI

3444
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:40,938
pods off our San Angelo.

3445
02:22:40,948 --> 02:22:42,259
[cheering]

3446
02:22:42,259 --> 02:22:50,550
[applause]

3447
02:22:50,560 --> 02:23:02,309
David Duso

3448
02:23:02,319 --> 02:23:08,449
Elena Luna

3449
02:23:08,459 --> 02:23:15,110
[applause]

3450
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:16,880
Good evening, mayor, council members,

3451
02:23:16,880 --> 02:23:18,560
and St. Angela residents. My name is

3452
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,359
Elena, resident of district 2, and I am

3453
02:23:21,359 --> 02:23:22,960
here tonight to stand before you to

3454
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:24,800
respectfully ask for you to reconsider

3455
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:26,720
the proposed data center development

3456
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:29,280
currently under your consideration. You

3457
02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:30,800
were not elected to simply approve

3458
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:32,399
development. You were elected to protect

3459
02:23:32,399 --> 02:23:34,640
the city, resources, people, and its

3460
02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:36,319
future. And that is exactly what is at

3461
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:38,479
stake here. Let's speak plainly for a

3462
02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:40,560
moment. This project asks St. Angelo to

3463
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:42,800
trade away its water, power, land, and

3464
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:44,640
finite local resources for the benefit

3465
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:46,880
of an industry that will give us very

3466
02:23:46,880 --> 02:23:48,960
little back. Data centers consume

3467
02:23:48,960 --> 02:23:51,120
enormous amounts of electricity, water,

3468
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:52,960
strain infrastructure, and in return

3469
02:23:52,960 --> 02:23:54,960
produce minimal permanent jobs and

3470
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:57,600
limited long-term investment. And here,

3471
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:59,760
that reality matters more. St. Angelo

3472
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:01,760
was built on land, agriculture, and our

3473
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:03,359
economy depends on ranchers, farmers,

3474
02:24:03,359 --> 02:24:04,960
and the small businesses that support

3475
02:24:04,960 --> 02:24:06,800
them. These are not just temporary

3476
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:08,800
industries. They are generational and

3477
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,960
they all depend on one thing. Reliable

3478
02:24:10,960 --> 02:24:13,359
access to water. Every gallon used to

3479
02:24:13,359 --> 02:24:14,960
cool a data center is a gallon that

3480
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:17,439
cannot sustain livestock, irrigate crops

3481
02:24:17,439 --> 02:24:18,800
or support the backbone of this

3482
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:20,399
community. This is not just a

3483
02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:22,080
development decision. It is a resource

3484
02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:24,560
allocation decision. So we have to ask

3485
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:27,040
who are we prioritizing? local producers

3486
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,280
who sustain our economy and identity or

3487
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:30,880
an outside industry that brings high

3488
02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:32,800
demand and low long term in low

3489
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:34,880
long-term return because once those

3490
02:24:34,880 --> 02:24:36,560
resources are committed, you cannot

3491
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:38,560
easily take them back. The precedent you

3492
02:24:38,560 --> 02:24:39,920
set here will determine who thrives in

3493
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:42,000
St. Angelo and who gets pushed out. And

3494
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,920
too often these projects come with tax

3495
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:45,680
uh abatements and subsidies, meaning the

3496
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:46,960
people of the city are being asked to

3497
02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:49,120
subsidize their own displacement. That

3498
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:51,200
is not an e economic development. That

3499
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:53,280
is a a failure of stewardship. This

3500
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:55,200
council has a duty to think long term.

3501
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:56,720
What happens during drought? What

3502
02:24:56,720 --> 02:24:58,319
happens when agriculture is forced to

3503
02:24:58,319 --> 02:24:59,600
compete with industrial scale

3504
02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:01,520
consumption? And what happens when the

3505
02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:03,040
industries that built this region can no

3506
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:04,960
longer afford to operate here? Our

3507
02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:06,399
founders warned us about this. Thomas

3508
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:08,160
Jefferson believed the strength of the

3509
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:09,760
nation came from land-based communities

3510
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:11,359
rooted in independence and

3511
02:25:11,359 --> 02:25:13,120
sustainability, not dependence on

3512
02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:15,120
outside interests. James Madison warned

3513
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:16,640
of power powerful factions and

3514
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:18,080
federalist hint pursuing their own gain

3515
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:20,240
at the expense of the public good. And

3516
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:21,680
George Washington cautioned against the

3517
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:23,040
influences that do not share the

3518
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:24,800
long-term fate of the people. This

3519
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,800
warning applies here. A corporation can

3520
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:28,399
leave when conditions change. Our

3521
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:30,399
farmers, ranchers, and families cannot.

3522
02:25:30,399 --> 02:25:31,840
So the question is not whether this

3523
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:33,439
project is modern. The question is

3524
02:25:33,439 --> 02:25:35,200
whether it is loyal to this community.

3525
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:37,040
And it is loyal to our is it loyal to

3526
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:39,040
our agricultural backbone. Is it loyal

3527
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:40,800
to responsibility to responsible water

3528
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:42,880
use in a region where water is already

3529
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:44,800
scarce? Or is it loyal to the people who

3530
02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:46,640
live here? Not just today, but decades

3531
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:48,640
from now. If the answer is no, then your

3532
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:50,560
responsibility is clear. St. Angelo is

3533
02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:51,840
not for sale at the cost of its own

3534
02:25:51,840 --> 02:25:53,439
sustainability. Our water is not

3535
02:25:53,439 --> 02:25:54,880
expandable, and our agricultural

3536
02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:56,479
foundation is not something to be traded

3537
02:25:56,479 --> 02:25:58,640
away for short-term promises. I urge

3538
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:00,479
you, stand with this community, protect

3539
02:26:00,479 --> 02:26:02,479
our resources, and reject this proposal.

3540
02:26:02,479 --> 02:26:06,611
Thank you. [cheering]

3541
02:26:06,621 --> 02:26:16,800
[applause]

3542
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:21,021
Jamal Shimpert.

3543
02:26:21,031 --> 02:26:33,670
[applause]

3544
02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:36,800
» Uh Jamal Shumpert, SMD3. I'm not going

3545
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:38,720
to speak a lot about data centers, but

3546
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:41,040
it kind of reminds me of when I was

3547
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:43,200
studying in school about how they ran

3548
02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:45,840
highways through certain communities.

3549
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:47,280
Now they're they're building data

3550
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:52,080
centers in communities like this. Uh it

3551
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:55,040
gives me like a bad feeling that we

3552
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,000
don't have a chance unless we do

3553
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:00,319
something about it like recall some

3554
02:27:00,319 --> 02:27:03,200
people or maybe put in a petition to

3555
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:04,800
take some of that sales tax money away

3556
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:07,840
out of the ballot uh to address some of

3557
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:09,120
these harms they're not willing to

3558
02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:12,560
address as a city council. Uh, but I'm

3559
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:14,560
going to move forward because what I

3560
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:16,560
came here for is to advocate for the

3561
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:19,120
children, the youth. They they've been

3562
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:21,600
killing themselves quite often, hurting

3563
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,399
themselves in St. Angelo, way more than

3564
02:27:24,399 --> 02:27:26,720
what I'm used to here. Uh, I would like

3565
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:28,960
for the city council, since Tom talked

3566
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:31,760
about giving them a building for use to

3567
02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:35,600
put some money towards paying for these people, I mean, these children

3568
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:37,200
whose parents can't afford for them to

3569
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:39,280
go to these camps in the summer. So they

3570
02:27:39,280 --> 02:27:40,479
go to these camps in the summer when

3571
02:27:40,479 --> 02:27:42,160
they're not at school instead of

3572
02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:44,800
thinking of bad ways to harm the

3573
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:46,800
community. They're going to be at your

3574
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:49,760
houses at night or during the day uh

3575
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:52,479
causing problems, making our police

3576
02:27:52,479 --> 02:27:54,880
having to answer to these petty things

3577
02:27:54,880 --> 02:27:56,880
instead of actually addressing real

3578
02:27:56,880 --> 02:27:59,680
issues that city have. Um and another

3579
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:02,560
thing I came up here was to thank Mr.

3580
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:05,520
Keley for talking about Carver and

3581
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,840
wanting to save Carver. That is that is

3582
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:12,399
huge. Uh, believe it or not, quite a few

3583
02:28:12,399 --> 02:28:14,319
uh, black schools got burned just like

3584
02:28:14,319 --> 02:28:16,640
Mr. Dendles. So, I understand exactly

3585
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,160
where Mr. Dendle's coming from. I

3586
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:21,439
understand both sides of it. Uh, I I I'd

3587
02:28:21,439 --> 02:28:23,120
like for you to keep pushing that, Mr.

3588
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:26,080
Keley. And, um, that that's really all I

3589
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:31,040
had to say about the data centers, but I do have a somewhat of a solution, but

3590
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:32,960
y'all going to have to ask me. Thank

3591
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:35,963
you.

3592
02:28:35,963 --> 02:28:41,110
» [applause]

3593
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:53,349
» Edward Zbecki,

3594
02:28:53,359 --> 02:28:58,878
Karen McGinness.

3595
02:28:58,888 --> 02:29:04,389
[applause]

3596
02:29:04,399 --> 02:29:06,880
Good evening. My name is Karen McGinness

3597
02:29:06,880 --> 02:29:09,920
and um I don't know what district I live

3598
02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:12,399
in. I just moved,

3599
02:29:12,399 --> 02:29:17,600
but I am born and raised in St. Angelo.

3600
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:20,240
And Mike and Chris, I want to tell you

3601
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:24,080
that um I'm sorry that your industry has

3602
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:27,120
such a poor track record and such a

3603
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,600
lousy reputation.

3604
02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:34,479
Um, you may be the one shining example,

3605
02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:38,000
the white knights within the industry,

3606
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:39,840
but you've already told us that you're

3607
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:41,040
going to build this and then you're

3608
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:43,840
going to lease it to somebody. You don't

3609
02:29:43,840 --> 02:29:45,520
know who that somebody is, and neither

3610
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:47,280
do we.

3611
02:29:47,280 --> 02:29:50,720
You've already told us that uh they'll

3612
02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:54,000
refresh the equipment every five to six

3613
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,800
years, 3 to six years. So, where does

3614
02:29:56,800 --> 02:29:59,760
all that old equipment go?

3615
02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:01,040
I mean, it's not just going to

3616
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:03,120
disappear.

3617
02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:06,080
I have a lot of questions

3618
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:14,630
and very few answers.

3619
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:19,359
I'm oldfashioned. I still write checks.

3620
02:30:19,359 --> 02:30:21,359
Yeah. On this move, I misplaced my

3621
02:30:21,359 --> 02:30:25,600
checks, but I found them.

3622
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:28,960
I'm wondering if perhaps

3623
02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:32,720
it's time for us to stop just looking to

3624
02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:36,080
the end of our nose, our local

3625
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:39,439
government, our state government, our

3626
02:30:39,439 --> 02:30:41,439
national government,

3627
02:30:41,439 --> 02:30:44,479
and start thinking not just what's best

3628
02:30:44,479 --> 02:30:47,359
for me, but what's best for my

3629
02:30:47,359 --> 02:30:49,439
grandchild

3630
02:30:49,439 --> 02:30:51,760
and more importantly, what about my

3631
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:53,359
grandchild's

3632
02:30:53,359 --> 02:30:55,520
grandchildren?

3633
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:58,399
If we could look seven generations down

3634
02:30:58,399 --> 02:31:00,399
the road,

3635
02:31:00,399 --> 02:31:02,240
I think we might be making different

3636
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:06,230
kinds of decisions.

3637
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:08,319
The bottom line is you can put lipstick

3638
02:31:08,319 --> 02:31:12,080
on a pig. You can wrap that pig in silk

3639
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:14,160
and satin and you can even put diamond

3640
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:16,720
studs in his ears,

3641
02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:22,979
but in the end, he's still a pig.

3642
02:31:22,989 --> 02:31:31,270
» [applause]

3643
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:36,080
» Karen Best.

3644
02:31:36,090 --> 02:31:42,309
[applause]

3645
02:31:42,319 --> 02:31:43,840
» Give me a second, Karen. Sorry. It's

3646
02:31:43,840 --> 02:31:45,359
>> okay.

3647
02:31:45,359 --> 02:31:46,720
>> All right.

3648
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:48,240
>> I'm a better writer than a public

3649
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:50,720
speaker, so forgive me. I heard

3650
02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:51,920
everybody say what they're going to say.

3651
02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:53,840
So, I'm just going to riff here on what

3652
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:55,680
I saw tonight. Okay. First of all, thank

3653
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:57,600
you to the city council members who are

3654
02:31:57,600 --> 02:31:59,920
present and staff and the members of

3655
02:31:59,920 --> 02:32:01,680
Skybox, the the two gentlemen who

3656
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:05,359
addressed the group today on community.

3657
02:32:05,359 --> 02:32:07,920
Gentlemen, when you at Skybox talk about

3658
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:09,359
community, you're talking about the big

3659
02:32:09,359 --> 02:32:10,880
five. You're not talking about any of

3660
02:32:10,880 --> 02:32:14,319
us. When you talk about the schools, I'm

3661
02:32:14,319 --> 02:32:16,319
sitting next to a school board member.

3662
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:18,720
Y'all haven't approached SISD about

3663
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:20,960
anything. The monies that are going to

3664
02:32:20,960 --> 02:32:24,640
very best will almost largely go back to

3665
02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:27,200
the state of Texas when they collect it.

3666
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:30,399
It's not just the overage. Okay. But

3667
02:32:30,399 --> 02:32:32,319
what bothers me most isn't Skybox. You

3668
02:32:32,319 --> 02:32:34,080
guys are doing a business. I'm in

3669
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:36,240
business for myself, too. I get it. And

3670
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:38,319
that's fine. We're a commodity for you.

3671
02:32:38,319 --> 02:32:41,280
We are not your community.

3672
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:44,080
We're wait. [applause] We're your

3673
02:32:44,080 --> 02:32:46,319
community.

3674
02:32:46,319 --> 02:32:49,439
You asked to put

3675
02:32:49,439 --> 02:32:53,520
your signs in our yards. You came to our

3676
02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:55,280
Republican women and Concho Valley

3677
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:57,520
Republican women groups. When you have

3678
02:32:57,520 --> 02:32:59,520
Glenda Bacon standing up putting the

3679
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:01,200
governor in a box, you know things are

3680
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:05,040
bad. Okay. But you're our community and

3681
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:07,359
the first we get to hear about Skybox

3682
02:33:07,359 --> 02:33:10,479
with Skybox is up here today as this is

3683
02:33:10,479 --> 02:33:12,880
upon us. Not at some we should have been

3684
02:33:12,880 --> 02:33:14,399
on the conversation in on the

3685
02:33:14,399 --> 02:33:16,319
conversation a year ago and on the

3686
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:20,319
zoning changes to housing a year ago.

3687
02:33:20,319 --> 02:33:23,280
we should have been included.

3688
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:26,080
But tonight, the best optic we have of

3689
02:33:26,080 --> 02:33:29,280
where this is at is that empty stage

3690
02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:31,680
right now where you should be sitting

3691
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:35,040
answering our questions.

3692
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,040
Not not huddled in a corner with skybox

3693
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:41,120
saying we will not respond to any

3694
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:43,439
questions other [snorts] than the

3695
02:33:43,439 --> 02:33:46,319
library meeting that Mr. Keely was brave

3696
02:33:46,319 --> 02:33:51,280
enough to call and citizens got to be as

3697
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:53,600
open and vocal as they wanted to be. And

3698
02:33:53,600 --> 02:33:56,319
God bless you for that. That man spent

3699
02:33:56,319 --> 02:33:58,399
two hours in the street with me last

3700
02:33:58,399 --> 02:34:01,680
week talking about data centers.

3701
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:04,160
That man has represented the city of St.

3702
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:06,080
Angelo better than anyone else around

3703
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:08,080
that table.

3704
02:34:08,080 --> 02:34:11,600
We deserve that kind of We deserve that

3705
02:34:11,600 --> 02:34:15,200
kind of openness. We deserve that kind

3706
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:17,359
of opportunity.

3707
02:34:17,359 --> 02:34:19,920
I will lose

3708
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:22,720
staff in my office when they can't pay

3709
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:25,040
rent and I can't charge enough to

3710
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:27,040
somebody to come in to raise their pay

3711
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:28,960
to keep them because of the housing

3712
02:34:28,960 --> 02:34:30,720
issues that the gentleman from Abene

3713
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:33,359
brought. That's not conjecture. That's

3714
02:34:33,359 --> 02:34:35,359
fact. Because I just had to raise her

3715
02:34:35,359 --> 02:34:40,080
salary to pay for rents. Now, today,

3716
02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:42,720
hers went up $300 a month because of

3717
02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:45,040
taxes and insurance. That's not a future

3718
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:47,840
problem. That's a today problem. Thank

3719
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:51,272
you.

3720
02:34:51,282 --> 02:35:02,399
[applause]

3721
02:35:02,399 --> 02:35:11,590
Michelle Daruso

3722
02:35:11,600 --> 02:35:14,560
And finally, Joe. Uh, Joe Hyde.

3723
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:17,280
>> I signed up.

3724
02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:20,720
>> Oh, Amber, you did. I'm so sorry.

3725
02:35:20,720 --> 02:35:26,642
>> Uh, Amber Armanderas.

3726
02:35:26,652 --> 02:35:31,830
[applause]

3727
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,680
» Good evening, council members and fellow

3728
02:35:33,680 --> 02:35:35,520
residents. My name is Amber Armandereas

3729
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:38,000
and I live in district 6. I'm here to

3730
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:40,399
implore you place a definite moratorum

3731
02:35:40,399 --> 02:35:42,080
on the construction of skybox data

3732
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,319
centers in the San Angela city limits

3733
02:35:44,319 --> 02:35:46,399
properties and for you to encourage our

3734
02:35:46,399 --> 02:35:48,000
fellow neighbors in Tom Green County and

3735
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:49,200
surrounding counties to vote against

3736
02:35:49,200 --> 02:35:51,359
these any such proposal. Yesterday

3737
02:35:51,359 --> 02:35:53,439
morning I spoke of box's closed loop

3738
02:35:53,439 --> 02:35:54,960
system and how their blowdown process

3739
02:35:54,960 --> 02:35:57,600
will dump its toxic sludge and dangerous

3740
02:35:57,600 --> 02:35:59,920
contaminants into our water sources. If

3741
02:35:59,920 --> 02:36:01,840
you missed it, please go have a listen.

3742
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:04,240
Now I will explain the noise pollution.

3743
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:05,760
Have any of you been to one of these

3744
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:07,760
data centers and heard of what their low

3745
02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:10,560
hum sounds really is? I assure you it's

3746
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:12,640
not a low hum at all. I have firsthand

3747
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:13,920
knowledge of what these data center

3748
02:36:13,920 --> 02:36:16,000
sounds emit. During the time I live near

3749
02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:17,920
one of these data centers, I suff

3750
02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:20,399
suffered for from daily headaches and

3751
02:36:20,399 --> 02:36:22,800
extreme discom discomfort. And every

3752
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:24,319
time I would fly back here for the

3753
02:36:24,319 --> 02:36:26,720
weekend, my headaches would clear up and

3754
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:29,120
instantly fell at ease.

3755
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:30,960
I was on all sorts of medication for

3756
02:36:30,960 --> 02:36:32,240
these chronic problems and couldn't

3757
02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:34,240
figure out why. After moving back here

3758
02:36:34,240 --> 02:36:36,399
officially, my chronic headaches no

3759
02:36:36,399 --> 02:36:39,040
longer exist. I encourage each of you to

3760
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:40,479
go to one of these data centers and see

3761
02:36:40,479 --> 02:36:42,000
what they're really like. Cooling

3762
02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:43,680
systems and generators create a constant

3763
02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:46,000
loud hum that can negatively impact the

3764
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:48,960
quality of life. Yesterday, Steve Elius

3765
02:36:48,960 --> 02:36:50,640
from our chamber of commerce per

3766
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:52,560
purposely spoke misleading words to

3767
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:54,240
paint a picture of what this data center

3768
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:56,080
is. And I'm here to give you a reality

3769
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:58,319
check of truth. and I quote, "A data

3770
02:36:58,319 --> 02:37:00,479
center is basically the building full of

3771
02:37:00,479 --> 02:37:02,800
computers that deliver information that

3772
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:05,280
we use every day. These data centers are

3773
02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:07,120
not full of computers. They are full of

3774
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:09,920
servers. One rack mount server is

3775
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:12,240
approximately 7 ft high, 2 feet wide,

3776
02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:14,960
and 4t deep and emits a frequency of 60

3777
02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:17,439
hertz, which can be felt physically as

3778
02:37:17,439 --> 02:37:20,479
vibration and heard as a deep bass tone.

3779
02:37:20,479 --> 02:37:22,960
On average, a data center will house

3780
02:37:22,960 --> 02:37:25,439
100,000 server racks, which is a

3781
02:37:25,439 --> 02:37:27,680
frequency of six million hertz or six

3782
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:30,399
megahertz. A frequent a high frequency

3783
02:37:30,399 --> 02:37:32,479
ultrasound. This cannot be heard by

3784
02:37:32,479 --> 02:37:36,080
humans, but can be a cause but can cause

3785
02:37:36,080 --> 02:37:39,200
a heating tissue vibration and potential

3786
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:42,560
cap uh cavitation in tissues. This is

3787
02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:44,720
300 times higher than the limit of human

3788
02:37:44,720 --> 02:37:47,840
hearing. Combine the combined noise from

3789
02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:49,680
fans, cooling systems, and servers are

3790
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:51,680
cons considered hazardous for long-term

3791
02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:53,600
exposure. For instance, it causes

3792
02:37:53,600 --> 02:37:55,120
confusion, nausea, and potential

3793
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:57,439
internal injuries. Nearby residents are

3794
02:37:57,439 --> 02:37:59,359
exposed to infrasound that causes

3795
02:37:59,359 --> 02:38:02,240
vertigo and nausea. That said, you made

3796
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:04,720
a unilateral decision be behind closed

3797
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:07,200
doors and backdoor deals that affect all

3798
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:10,240
of St. Angelo that will cause long-term

3799
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,160
physical harm. Just as you asked the

3800
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:13,920
residents of St. Angelo to vote on the

3801
02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:16,000
expansion of our coliseum that directly

3802
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:18,560
affects our taxes. You are mandated to

3803
02:38:18,560 --> 02:38:20,479
ask the residents of St. Angelo for a

3804
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:22,319
vote that directly affects our water

3805
02:38:22,319 --> 02:38:24,640
resources and our health. You do not own

3806
02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:26,640
the land and water here. The people of

3807
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:28,880
St. Angelo own this land and water. And

3808
02:38:28,880 --> 02:38:30,800
I reiterate from yesterday, we are the

3809
02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:32,880
stewards of the land and water and you

3810
02:38:32,880 --> 02:38:35,439
are voted to represent your community

3811
02:38:35,439 --> 02:38:37,359
and your community is progressively

3812
02:38:37,359 --> 02:38:39,600
opposing data centers from being built

3813
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:42,000
here. I motion to require all of St.

3814
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,920
Angeloans place a vote for indefinite

3815
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:46,080
moratorum or opposition for the data

3816
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:48,880
center and full future data centers as

3817
02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:52,080
well. Mini Wakani it means water is

3818
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:54,720
life. I'm a Native American. I have

3819
02:38:54,720 --> 02:38:57,760
history here. My family is from here. I

3820
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:00,080
grew up right down the road. And what

3821
02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:02,399
you're doing to our land and our water

3822
02:39:02,399 --> 02:39:04,240
is ridiculous.

3823
02:39:04,240 --> 02:39:07,390
You should be ashamed of yourselves.

3824
02:39:07,390 --> 02:39:10,000
[cheering]

3825
02:39:10,010 --> 02:39:21,040
» [applause]

3826
02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:21,280
>> and

3827
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:23,600
>> Joe Hyde.

3828
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:25,359
>> My name is Joe Hyde. I run two

3829
02:39:25,359 --> 02:39:27,200
businesses in town. I have St. Angelo

3830
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:29,600
Live, which is the news organization,

3831
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:31,439
and I also have a little bar and and a

3832
02:39:31,439 --> 02:39:34,080
hotel called the Arkite. in that arc

3833
02:39:34,080 --> 02:39:37,120
light. I got a cook name of TD and I

3834
02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:39,359
can't give him enough money right now

3835
02:39:39,359 --> 02:39:41,760
for him to buy a reliable car to get to

3836
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:43,359
work.

3837
02:39:43,359 --> 02:39:45,840
And when I see things like these data

3838
02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:47,920
centers, which is a gigantic opportunity

3839
02:39:47,920 --> 02:39:50,720
for this town, for this city, for this

3840
02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:53,280
region to make a lot of money for our K,

3841
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:55,600
for the guys working for us, I don't

3842
02:39:55,600 --> 02:39:57,359
know why there's so much opposition to

3843
02:39:57,359 --> 02:40:00,479
it. All it is is a building full of

3844
02:40:00,479 --> 02:40:02,560
servers.

3845
02:40:02,560 --> 02:40:05,120
And regardless regardless of what you

3846
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:07,280
want to say here, you already have a

3847
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:09,280
data center on Johnson Street. One

3848
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:13,680
entire floor of the GTE building is a is

3849
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:16,800
a data center and it's full of ant

3850
02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:20,960
meters. It's mining Bitcoin. And while

3851
02:40:20,960 --> 02:40:24,080
it's mining Bitcoin, none of you got

3852
02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:28,080
cancer. You have plenty of water.

3853
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:30,479
You have no noise. No one complains

3854
02:40:30,479 --> 02:40:34,240
about noise on Johnson Street. 40,000

3855
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:38,160
square ft of Bitcoin miners.

3856
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:41,120
All of you. All of you walking out here

3857
02:40:41,120 --> 02:40:43,359
are nothing but a bunch of low IQ

3858
02:40:43,359 --> 02:40:45,280
idiots.

3859
02:40:45,280 --> 02:41:00,070
>> Yes. Weirdos and losers.

3860
02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:06,550
people like us.

3861
02:41:06,560 --> 02:41:07,760
» Nothing like

3862
02:41:07,760 --> 02:41:09,040
>> I won't be running.

3863
02:41:09,040 --> 02:41:13,750
>> So, we are finished with public comment.

3864
02:41:13,760 --> 02:41:16,000
» Thank [snorts] goodness. I need a motion

3865
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:18,880
to adjourn the meeting.

3866
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:22,240
Got a first from Joe. Got a second from

3867
02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:25,600
Tommy Heert. All those in favor say I.

3868
02:41:25,600 --> 02:41:28,800
>> Any oppose that want to stay?

3869
02:41:28,800 --> 02:41:30,960
That motion closes to close the meeting.

3870
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:33,960
70.