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why people come across the border. Yeah. I remember back

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in the day. Yeah, we used to.

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in that town was just booming.

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To grab my laptop on the other side. And when

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you turn 19, you.

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she wants to sleep. She's gonna go, it's gonna.

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the snow. This is gonna be take to the invention

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machine. Right. I.

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Really just thought you ready? I don't. You ready? Yeah,

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don't absolutely. It's 5 31.

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Good evening.

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I'm gonna call this meeting to order. It's my pleasure.

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To have you join us here at the Oshtemo Charter

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Township joint board meeting.

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I'm gonna call this meeting to order and again, and

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I'm gonna invite you to join us in the pledge

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of allegiance.

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Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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Into the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God.

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Indivisible with Liberty and justice.

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For all

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item three on the agenda.

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I'm going to strike because we don't have remote location

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identification for this meeting. There is no zoom.

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So next I will move to item four, which is

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approved of the agenda.

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Sir, anyone here wishing to make any changes to the

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adopt the agenda.

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With the amendment of removing item three.

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Of approving the agenda, do that.

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That's true. I guess these really bore our just kind

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of update meetings. Oh, okay.

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Okay, well then we will just move forward.

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Yeah, this is like not a decision making body. Okay.

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table of introductions.

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Why don't I start with you clerk, farmer and we'll

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go around. And if you would just identify.

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Who you are and what board or committee you're associated

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Dusty Farmer. I'm the clerk in elections administrator for.

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And I also sit on the zoning board of appeals.

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Appeals Zak Ford. I'm a Trustee on the Township board.

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Benac Wakeley accountant for the Township.

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Michael KK, she, her pronouns and I'm on the ZPA.

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I'm grace Engels. I'm on the planning commission.

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Scott Jeffries planning commission.

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Round for plan planning, commission, Mel Smith. I'm on the

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planning commission.

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Mike chairman planning commission in Township, Gordon.

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Jodi Sikora staff to the Township planning director.

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Neil Sikora Township, Trustee and Kamo friends of the park.

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Planning commission.

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I'm friends. The

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Vanessa street. I'm the parks director crash Mo Township and

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the liaison for Oshtemo friends.

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I'm the supervisor.

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Oshtemo Township board member of the downtown development authority, the

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south Drake road corridor improvement authority.

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And forensic support, Macy Walters. She, her pronouns. I am

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the brownfield redevelopment administrator for Kamoo county and I chair

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Soda board, Danny pantser soda board.

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Horn of public works director for SPO chip.

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I just want to give a shout out to the

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strong showing of the planning commission here today. you

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Everything. We're looking for a we're. I, you know what,

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there I can, I'll go find some treats in the

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office.

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definitely earn next. We're just gonna do some updates

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Director playing director Stefforia and an update about our downtown

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development authority. Thank.

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Downtown development authority. They meet every other.

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Month and a big

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time effort right now is working with consumers energy to

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get approval.

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Hold that we already have banners on that we might

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wanna put a second banner on. And the original agreement

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is from 2003 and they're act, they can't find it.

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Even though I scanned a copy of it. And so

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we had to start over and it's taking more than

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18 months. It's been real frustrating.

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the poles and get a more visual punch. We're hoping

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now Christmas rich.

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Blair, our media and communications representative is gonna help me

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pick out the banners and we're gonna get those up

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for the holidays.

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Holidays, but keep 'em wintry so they can leave them

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up till spring . So they won't say happy holidays,

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but you'll get the idea.

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So that's real progress to be so close. Finally.

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With consumers, energy. Mm-hmm . That is the most disor.

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Anyone here work for them. that is the most

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disorganized.

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Disorganized organization and what they get away with.

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Statewide is ridiculous. How many projects they delay road projects

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Projects and we're getting streetlights again. We are waiting on

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consumer's energy to do a new contract with the Township

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and it can probably speak to it more, but we

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Have it. And we finally have a price on the

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DDA is gonna pay for streetlights on ninth street from

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stadium to end where we don't have any now. And

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it's quite dark through there. So.

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That'll be a big improvement.

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That's it for DDA. Do you wanna share about the

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grant program? I think this would be for the DDA

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grant program. Sure. It started.

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if we can get businesses to upgrade their signs, that

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would be an improvement to the property in the corridor.

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you can apply for a grant for facade, landscaping, or

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signs. It's up to.

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$5,000, but they have to match it. So if it's

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a $10,000 project, the DD will give a grant and

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pay for half of it.

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And the word is kind of spreading. We're still finalizing

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a list of businesses there and contacts to.

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Do a mass notification of this grant program to them.

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Vanessa. Do you wanna talk about Oshtemo? Sure. Do we

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have any other members of the DDA here? Oh, DDA.

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No, no.

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Justin just summary of Oshtemo friends of the parks. We

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meet monthly.

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The goals of the board are to support the programming,

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volunteerism and fundraising in our parks.

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Parks couple updates about our board. There's been a leadership

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change. Dennis Patzer stepped down after 13.

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Thank you.

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I feel the same way, public shame. Oh my God.

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Currently Sherry bell is the interim president.

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And we have new one new member long-term volunteer. Molly

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page has just joined. So.

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We are back up to six and we are still

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looking for more members.

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So we are allowed to have up to 11 on

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our board. So we're always looking for new people who

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wanna get involved in the community, especially.

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The parks, getting outdoors and engaging with our residents. So

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if that's something you wanna do or someone, you know,

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that would like to do, please send them our way.

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I wanna take a quick moment and highlight the fruit

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belt rail trail project.

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Friends of the park supported the completion and all the

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activities for this project related to volunteering along the trail.

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Building some benches, one of our FOP members.

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Built several benches made from reclaimed materials. So a black

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Walnut tree fell in the parks and we.

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Milled it reclaimed it and filled benches out of it

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for the fruit belt. So he spent.

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Probably 70 hours building those benches. You don't have to

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do that if you join, but .

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If you want to, if you want to though.

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And we had our ribbon cutting in July. So the

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trail has Benac officially opened a couple of months. The

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use is, is incredible.

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There's constantly people on it, which is fantastic. And a

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lot of good response.

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We will be celebrating the hundred 20th anniversary of the

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first train that ran along.

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That route from south, from Kalamazoo to south Haven. So

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the entire line.

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The first run of it was April 24th.

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19. Oh seven.

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So next April 24th, which is a Saturday will be the

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hundred 20th year of that.

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Start of that line. So we're gonna have.

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A celebration activity.

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Speakers about the history of the line and also history

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of Oshtemo. So look forward to that for next year.

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Volunteer engagement, friends of the parks spent.

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Over 200 hours between them and additional volunteers.

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Removing invasive species habitat, restoration, trail maintenance, and park improvement

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projects at our regular biweekly.

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Volunteer sessions. So we meet every other Friday from 10

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until noon.

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Out in our parks, bouncing around to different properties, doing

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projects that need to get done.

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And community programming. So we had.

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Friends of the park supported several successful community events and

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programs this summer.

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We did spring park cleanups and garlic mustard poles.

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Poles. We did five, well, four so far. We have

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another one in October five guided nature walks, which are.

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Going well, and then we had our three music in

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the park concerts.

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Concerts averaged about, or we total about 800 people for

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those.

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Concerts and brought in about $800 of the raffle money

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to go back into our parks. So I've done a

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pretty successful summer. We had great weather.

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Can't beat that.

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And lastly, I just wanna mention that upcoming, not this

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weekend, but next weekend we honor national public lands day

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where we host a.

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Volunteer group to give back. We will be at Township

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park.

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Right back here doing work on the disc golf course

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and the back trails.

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Trails Oshtemo rotary has again.

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Graciously donated money for feeding everyone pizza. So it's a

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couple hours of work and then a nice pizza lunch

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for you. So we encourage you.

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To spread the word or come and show up for

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that. And then lastly, our fall event at Drake is

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the next day, Sunday, September 27th.

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From two to four is at Drake farmstead park. We

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host a community fall event. There's historic house tours.

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Tours music, couple of food vendors.

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Activities, crafts kid stuff. So if you also want to

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volunteer for that and help with any of those areas,

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we would more than welcome you on.

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It's been a great year. I think in friends of

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the parks, I think we got a lot of stuff

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done and I look forward to next year.

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Thank you, Vanessa. That's an incredible amount of work.

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Speaking of incredible amount of work. Jody, do you wanna

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talk about our planning commission?

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Do you, Mr. Chair?

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hello. They are very carefully, deliberately.

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Walking through a draft, one of an energy.

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Systems ordinance, which in itself is like 35 pages.

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Pages long and we'll have appendices.

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Appendices they're nearly there. They spent two meetings meeting for

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two hours on taking public comment.

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Both those meetings and then we'll be getting through.

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Hopefully draft one at their first meeting in October, which

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will be the second Thursday. I think it's the eighth.

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And starting to walk through the appendices and then taking,

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getting a lot of great public comment needs to be

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vetted for accuracy.

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And based on science.

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And working in some of this great.

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Feedback we're getting into draft to, and then maybe.

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We will just walk through red line changes with draft

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two, no need to start over.

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At the same time.

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Leanna Harris.

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And the public works department are working to strengthen and

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consolidate our environmental related ordinances that are scattered right now.

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In a mix of it's in the site, condo ordinance.

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It's a general ordinance. It's in various sections of the

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zoning ordinance, wetland steep slopes, natural features.

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Features tree cover Woodlands. So.

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We wanna put those all in one spot.

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And strengthen them and wellhead protection. So they're working on

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that. Also the planning commission will be looking at.

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That a red line version of what's new. What's just

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getting moved at their meeting next week.

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And we're also at the same time, working with progressive

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companies.

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Based on the comprehensive plan that was adopted earlier.

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This year to pretty much overhaul our zoning ordinance and

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update.

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Some of most of the requirements.

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Like, and look at new minimum requirements for home size,

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lot size.

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Things that might be getting in the way.

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Unnecessarily of creating housing that is not as expensive.

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Creating new opportunities for housing.

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Renaming village commercial to neighborhood mixed use and loosening up

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to standards. There are 34 ages in the zoning.

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Ordinance of what you have to follow. If you wanna

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build something in our village commercial district, then we really

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think that is stunted. We don't think we know that

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that is maybe.

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Deterred some investment.

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So we're looking to write a neighborhood, an excuse district.

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That's gonna be in front of the planning commission next

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week. I'm 99%. Sure. So.

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Those two items will be on the agenda of the

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planning commission next week. So it's three.

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Large tasks in front of the planning commission, in addition

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to the applications for our site plan approval and special

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use approval. And rezonings, don't go away while you're.

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Working on these other projects.

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Projects. Julie, do you wanna mention this over recording too?

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Oh yeah. And then we have zoning language in place,

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right?

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Now for principal utility scale solar and the planning commission

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held a hearing.

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And has recommended to the Township board that the solar.

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Moratorium against the zoning language, be adapted and put into

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place for six months while we finish up the energy

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systems.

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Our approach right now because we're a sophisticated, urban Township

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is to address wind solar and energy storage.

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In one ordinance. I know MTA is telling communities, you

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should split that up, but they're also.

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Catering to rural townships that don't have staff here. We

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have a, a pretty good staff. There's three planners. There's

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two engineers. There's in-house legal counsel.

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We can write an ordinance. We have a sophisticated planning

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commission that can handle it. So that is.

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Our current approach is to treat all sophisticated. I was

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talking about Ron.

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So this is recorded, right? It's being broadcast, being broadcast.

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Yeah.

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That's why whisper. We feel comfortable treating, addressing it all

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in one ordinance section. Although we've gotten a little bit

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of feedback.

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Saying you shouldn't, but I don't comparing us to maybe

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some rural townships that don't even have a zoning administrator

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on staff. It's the local building authority that.

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Reviews zoning for them. So.

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And I would add based upon.

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Planning staff recommendation. We've added meetings for November and December.

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Yes. So they'll be meeting in November and December 1st and

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third, where normally they're a second and fourth Thursday, but

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Al wanted to watch the lions and.

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He refused to meet on Thanksgiving. so we're meeting

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first and third and those two months to stay away

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from the holidays. But.

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Cuz we have this work to do, but we also

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have applications still coming in and we already have long

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meetings.

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Meetings. We have long meetings, as you know, as is

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a Township.

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Before we move on. Is there anything, any of the

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commissioners want to add to.

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Playing directors dysphorias update.

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No, but I just wanna point out that the last.

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Four months have been exceptionally busy for the planning commission.

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But we're very fortunate in the staff led by Jodi.

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And Colton.

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But hat, they they've just done a tremendous job.

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And it hasn't been easy because this has been, as

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you know, it's been kind of a lightning rod issue.

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And they they've worked through it with a lot of

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class.

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And they continue to do that.

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Certainly makes our job a lot easier.

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Thank you chair. I couldn't agree with you, Morris. It's.

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We do appreciate all the hard work the staff has

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been.

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Putting into the efforts of the planning commission, particularly.

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Next

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oh, sorry. Jodi, south Drake corridor improvement authority. .

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Again, mm-hmm, planning high. Amples a lot.

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They don't have the same budget as.

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DDA their tax capture is only.

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About $80,000. But.

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What they're doing with their tax increment is paying the

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Township back.

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For the path on Drake road that now goes from

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west main to stadium. Eventually you'll go all the way

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down to, I mean, west main to K I'll eventually

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it'll go K.

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KL to stadium. So that is a majority of their

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budget every year.

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But they did approve at their meeting, not earlier today,

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but their meeting earlier this month to pay for streetlights

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on our side of Drake road, that.

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Are within their capture area, which runs from west main

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to stadium. So where we really need lights still is

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KL.

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KL to west main that soda can control. And then

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west along Drake, and then going north, the Township will

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pay. Cause that is out of the soda territory.

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And they also have a grant program, but it, their

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emphasis is more on.

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Safety. So if a business in the district along Drake

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road might want more lights for their property or security

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cameras.

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They would be eligible for a grant and we.

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Also reach out to the Sheriff's office again, to just

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get what specs do they need on these cameras?

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And what type of retention so that.

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The data will be useful for them in solving crimes,

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but there will be an expectation if someone wants a

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grant also in the DDA for a security.

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Cameras that there's gonna be a minimum expectation.

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And those are

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either. Yeah. They're typically it's offered to businesses in the

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DDA, the cameras, these, this camera program is.

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Installation or support for cameras on their property.

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So if

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I don't know a, B, C.

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Dental Andre road.

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They could apply for

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camera installation on their property to coordinate with the Sheriff's

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department, if they wanted.

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We also have a couple vacancy on the board. If

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you know anybody who's interested, I'm not sure about the

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eligibility.

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Requirements are for soda, but.

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Is it two that we're, we need a resident that

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lives within a half a mile of the district or

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in the district. And then.

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We do need

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two more members at least to.

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A majority of which have to have a ownership interest

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in the district.

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We have a at large member now, and I consider

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you as a county's rep to have an interest since

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we capture county taxes. Okay.

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oh, yeah, openings.

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Openings. And our next meeting is December 12th, unless there's a

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reason for a special meeting between.

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Here and there, but we meet quarterly.

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Yeah, thanks. Murgia thanks for the good conversation. The soda

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board had.

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A special meeting just ahead of this meeting.

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To

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take a look at the repayment schedule.

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For the path and also get itself ready for their,

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for budgets. So.

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It was good. It was good coverage. It was a

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good meeting. Good conversation.

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Zoning board of appeals.

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Appeals. They've had quite a few meetings canceled this year,

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which tells me we have a solid zoning ordinance.

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That not too many people need to ask for relief

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from it.

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But they also conduct slight plan review for permitted uses,

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which is unusual.

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For a community where your zoning board of appeals conduct

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site plan review. But that's been the case here since

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the eighties, because the planning commission's always been so busy

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that if something.

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Something's non-controversial and a permitted use kick get to the

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other board.

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But they do have a meeting next week. There's.

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There's a variant for a bed and breakfast in on

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south first street. That will be on the agenda.

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And then

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next month, a property on west Michigan avenue needs, frontage

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and setback variance.

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So Meg, there'll be a couple meetings coming, coming your

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way. And.

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Alice liaison from planning commission, two zoning vertical appeal.

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Of it. Yes.

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I can't get enough of ordinances and variances.

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Variances and , I, I didn't want to take the

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lead on that, cuz I didn't want to have to,

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you know, open up with it. We didn't do anything

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the last three months.

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But Jodi took the head, you know what appreciate, and

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that's the goal. If you zoning, doesn't ZBA, doesn't need

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to meet much if.

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Our zoning ordinances are working for us. So that's cool.

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I mean a little booboo here.

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Anna. I think I wanted to hold TA chip board

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for last. If you don't mind, do you, can you,

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can we flip and you give us our.

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Sewer update. Sure.

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So hopefully everybody is

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familiar about the U S D a.

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Sanitary sewer expansion projects in Oshtemo.

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This has been a long time coming. There was a

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strategic plan done back in 2010, 2011.

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About how to tackle some of the.

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Existing dense neighborhoods that we were gonna have to retrofit

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with sanitary sewer.

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So we

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did complete phase one.

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The, that has one lift station. It's pretty large lift

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station. It's in the sky Ridge driftwood neighborhood.

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And is now up and active and the city.

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Is overseeing that

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that project included two neighborhoods, sky Ridge, and driftwood off

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of Drake road.

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And then the fair lane Platt, which is Fairgrove will

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Damir off of stadium.

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Kind of near upper bellies.

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In total, that is 152.

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Connections to the public sanitary sewer.

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We

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we had five systems that were failed.

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When we were trying to get that.

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The final testing.

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Done and people were calling daily to see when they

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could get connected. There's been a few more that have

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come out of the woodwork that weren't known, but.

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During sales.

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People have actually been very excited that there's the option

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for public sewer.

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When they're going to buy a home in those neighborhoods.

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Neighborhoods. So we are starting to see those connections roll

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in. We also had somebody in one of those neighborhoods.

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Neighborhoods coming and pay for their connection fees before the

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lift station was even active. So they wanted to get

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connected and have that taken care of.

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And get it all done. So now we're in phase

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two, which is.

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The Westport neighborhood, just north of Meyer between ninth and

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10th and H and west main, if you will.

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That is about 490 connections.

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And it has three lift stations.

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Stations and we've broken into two different contracts. So we

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started on the first contract this year, starting from H

518
00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:12,900
avenue.

519
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:17,500
Heading south. The contractor's goal was to get half of

520
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:20,033
the contract done, which was about 10,000 feet.

521
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,033
In 2026.

522
00:26:23,066 --> 00:26:25,300
We are about 2000 feet ahead of schedule.

523
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:30,100
So that is good news, but not something in construction

524
00:26:30,133 --> 00:26:31,000
that we get.

525
00:26:31,834 --> 00:26:34,367
Really excited about cuz we can lose that momentum quickly.

526
00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:35,100
So.

527
00:26:37,734 --> 00:26:38,066
And that

528
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:43,100
contract. So just Torrington to H we have eight failed

529
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,066
systems that we know of so far.

530
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,767
A few of them, we found when we were digging

531
00:26:48,767 --> 00:26:51,033
because they are in the right of way. And we're

532
00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:52,300
right up against the road.

533
00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:55,066
Or some of, one of them had a utility.

534
00:26:55,834 --> 00:26:56,333
Board right through it.

535
00:26:58,300 --> 00:26:59,133
And we do have one resident.

536
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:03,133
That is pumping their system every three weeks.

537
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,767
And they are limiting their use. So her husband.

538
00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:08,166
Showers at the gym.

539
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:13,100
She does the whole like get wet, then turns off

540
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,100
the water and tries to wash her hair. Then turns

541
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,667
it on really quick. And then they're taking.

542
00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,567
Their laundry to their kids' house.

543
00:27:20,367 --> 00:27:22,634
So it's definitely a need. I like to share those

544
00:27:22,634 --> 00:27:24,734
stories with people. Not because I want anybody to be

545
00:27:24,734 --> 00:27:25,900
in that situation, but.

546
00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:29,166
It just shows the importance of what we're doing and

547
00:27:29,166 --> 00:27:31,000
that it will be immediately.

548
00:27:32,033 --> 00:27:32,066
Utilized

549
00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:35,000
we are

550
00:27:36,367 --> 00:27:37,433
still in the process of.

551
00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:41,266
Securing the act 180 5 bonds with the county.

552
00:27:42,433 --> 00:27:45,300
Our goal is to close on those early in 2027.

553
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,500
And complete country club village, which is the neighborhood kind

554
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:51,500
of behind latitude.

555
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,033
If you're familiar with it's large lane, south of west

556
00:27:55,033 --> 00:27:57,166
main it's 10th street, north of west main.

557
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:01,300
And that's another hundred and five connections. There's actually already

558
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:03,634
sewer down lodge lane. So a lot of people are

559
00:28:03,634 --> 00:28:05,333
already connected to that. And this would be kind of

560
00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:06,066
the side streets.

561
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,166
But it would all end up getting paved all at

562
00:28:09,166 --> 00:28:11,000
the same time. We did make that change.

563
00:28:12,533 --> 00:28:15,066
When we updated the plans last year, and then we're

564
00:28:15,066 --> 00:28:16,900
also looking at sanitary sewer.

565
00:28:18,433 --> 00:28:19,166
On eighth street.

566
00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:22,734
If you've driven down that recently, you're probably aware of

567
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,667
the, the war zone that it is, but the Township

568
00:28:25,667 --> 00:28:27,066
has a policy that we won't.

569
00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:30,567
Won't put road funds towards a road. That's programmed in

570
00:28:30,567 --> 00:28:31,567
the C I P for.

571
00:28:32,667 --> 00:28:34,100
Sanitary sewers. So

572
00:28:35,066 --> 00:28:36,567
I'm gonna remain optimistic.

573
00:28:37,533 --> 00:28:39,000
That we're gonna keep being efficient.

574
00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:43,000
And recognizing some of the economies of scale and gonna

575
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,166
be able to get this all done.

576
00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:46,533
With the bonds.

577
00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:50,266
That we have and the act 180 5 bonds and new

578
00:28:50,266 --> 00:28:51,900
connections coming in. So.

579
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:55,533
The other two things related to sewer that I wanted

580
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,266
to highlight is that the Township board.

581
00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,734
I believe it was 2020.

582
00:29:00,567 --> 00:29:01,333
Set up the hardship.

583
00:29:03,133 --> 00:29:05,100
Revolving funds. So we have a.

584
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,166
HARC committee a hardship.

585
00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:11,133
Assistance review committee. They do have a meeting coming up,

586
00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:12,500
but we have seen some.

587
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,133
More applications roll in now that the group of 300,

588
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,166
which was the original before we.

589
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,734
Started adding more sewer people who were adjacent to sewer

590
00:29:22,734 --> 00:29:24,166
that were required to get connected.

591
00:29:25,467 --> 00:29:27,300
We have a few of those left that are just

592
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:28,500
going through the hard process.

593
00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:32,033
And then we're already seeing a lot of interest from

594
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:33,033
the U S D a.

595
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,166
Neighborhoods as well. So we're glad to have that program

596
00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:40,367
to offer to the residents and help administrate it in

597
00:29:40,367 --> 00:29:41,033
public works.

598
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:42,567
And then

599
00:29:44,834 --> 00:29:45,900
another thing we tried.

600
00:29:46,667 --> 00:29:49,634
To do this year was a little bit different and

601
00:29:49,634 --> 00:29:52,900
better communication. And so the Township board approved.

602
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,767
A texting program.

603
00:29:56,667 --> 00:29:57,333
So we've been

604
00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:01,066
sending out texts to try and coordinate with people as

605
00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:04,033
they can't get into their driveways or they should park

606
00:30:04,033 --> 00:30:05,066
elsewhere or.

607
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,433
If their internet service goes down, those kinds of things.

608
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,266
So hopefully we've had, we've had a lot of really

609
00:30:12,266 --> 00:30:13,100
great feedback.

610
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,066
From that. So I think it's been.

611
00:30:16,367 --> 00:30:17,867
Successful for those of who.

612
00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:19,634
Like get and pay attention.

613
00:30:20,934 --> 00:30:23,033
And we can track, you know, who's actually clicking through

614
00:30:23,033 --> 00:30:24,000
to the website.

615
00:30:24,767 --> 00:30:26,033
So that was the final thing I was gonna mention

616
00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:29,634
is that we created a standalone phase two page on

617
00:30:29,634 --> 00:30:31,767
the township's website. If you go to the homepage and

618
00:30:31,767 --> 00:30:32,500
there's all those tiles.

619
00:30:33,133 --> 00:30:35,767
Tiles. It's one of the tiles on there. We have

620
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:39,767
an interactive map that shows the progress of construction where

621
00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:41,000
closures are, and then.

622
00:30:41,333 --> 00:30:43,767
Where the upcoming segments of road and where we're headed

623
00:30:43,867 --> 00:30:44,166
to next.

624
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,834
At a minimum once a week, we put.

625
00:30:48,767 --> 00:30:50,567
Updates related to construction activities.

626
00:30:51,634 --> 00:30:54,100
And then there's a whole bunch of other information about

627
00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:55,033
frequently asked questions.

628
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,133
Questions, how to get connected.

629
00:30:59,066 --> 00:31:01,033
We edit a construction glossary.

630
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:03,567
So some of the different.

631
00:31:04,934 --> 00:31:07,634
Stakes or flags that are in people's yards. We took

632
00:31:07,634 --> 00:31:10,066
pictures and tried to add some context to them so

633
00:31:10,066 --> 00:31:11,734
they could understand what was happening.

634
00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:15,634
There are some safety reminders on there. We had some

635
00:31:15,634 --> 00:31:16,000
kids.

636
00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:21,000
Using the manholes as playground equipment and things like that.

637
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:23,333
And the piles of dirt in the street as.

638
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:27,100
You know, activity space. That's a park idea, Vanessa.

639
00:31:29,333 --> 00:31:31,433
So we've been trying to get out as much information

640
00:31:31,734 --> 00:31:34,767
as we can. So those are just some other ancillary

641
00:31:34,767 --> 00:31:36,500
things I wanted to mention about the sewer.

642
00:31:37,333 --> 00:31:38,867
But overall it's been a, a.

643
00:31:39,634 --> 00:31:41,734
Pretty successful construction season for us.

644
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,567
It's really exciting.

645
00:31:45,767 --> 00:31:48,634
I also wanna commend the public works department.

646
00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:52,000
Because with any project, there comes a certain level of.

647
00:31:52,767 --> 00:31:53,567
Dissatisfaction.

648
00:31:55,066 --> 00:31:58,300
At various times and our public works department has done

649
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:00,100
an excellent job of.

650
00:32:00,767 --> 00:32:02,100
Tracking the feedback from residents.

651
00:32:03,233 --> 00:32:06,066
Residents making real time resolution and feedback.

652
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:08,367
And trying to help people.

653
00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:13,533
Experience that project as positively as possible. And I think

654
00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:16,166
you guys have done a, a fantastic job of that

655
00:32:16,367 --> 00:32:17,133
and I appreci.

656
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:18,767
Appreciate it immensely.

657
00:32:20,033 --> 00:32:20,266
And it's really

658
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,133
creates a, a great history too. Actually, the more.

659
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,634
Capital projects. We do like this. We will learn from

660
00:32:28,634 --> 00:32:31,000
that. It Al almost becomes data. So.

661
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,000
Great. Thank you, Anna.

662
00:32:36,166 --> 00:32:39,533
And actually, is there any other que I mean, I

663
00:32:39,533 --> 00:32:42,734
asked Haan to come update about sewer, particularly because.

664
00:32:43,634 --> 00:32:46,000
The board meeting, we just talked about the vehicle garage

665
00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:47,834
update, but is there any questions.

666
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:51,100
Questions for the public works director.

667
00:32:53,033 --> 00:32:56,567
We offer field trips. If anybody's interested. That's right.

668
00:32:57,567 --> 00:32:59,734
Maybe, I guess I do have one question. Did we

669
00:32:59,734 --> 00:33:01,533
just talk at soda earlier about wondering.

670
00:33:02,467 --> 00:33:04,066
When the last time public works might have taken a

671
00:33:04,066 --> 00:33:05,000
walk down the path.

672
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:07,767
Oh, yeah. Do you know the last time.

673
00:33:09,433 --> 00:33:11,066
The Drake road path.

674
00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:12,000
From

675
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:15,867
west main to

676
00:33:19,433 --> 00:33:22,000
when the condition of that sort of had a question

677
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:26,567
related to maintenance. Yeah, we do. So few years ago,

678
00:33:26,567 --> 00:33:27,133
the Township.

679
00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:29,734
Board authorized a

680
00:33:30,734 --> 00:33:33,266
as a non-motorized asset management plan. So we.

681
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,667
Had a consultant traverse, the every piece of non-motorized.

682
00:33:39,867 --> 00:33:41,634
We just talked about this at the board meeting and

683
00:33:41,634 --> 00:33:44,133
the board approved and as needed contract for some of

684
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:46,133
the projects that came out of that. But then.

685
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:50,767
Continued to come up of these tiny segments or tiny

686
00:33:50,867 --> 00:33:54,634
projects where they're not something we would go out to

687
00:33:54,634 --> 00:33:54,867
bid.

688
00:33:55,233 --> 00:33:57,066
On. So we now have a contractor on board to

689
00:33:57,066 --> 00:33:58,166
help us with some of those.

690
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:03,433
Minor repairs. It, it does happen that with utilities.

691
00:34:04,934 --> 00:34:06,033
Were not the

692
00:34:06,867 --> 00:34:09,100
permitting agency for work in the right of way, whether

693
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,433
it's MDA or the Road Commission right of way. So

694
00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:14,834
we don't get copies of those permits and.

695
00:34:15,066 --> 00:34:16,000
Some of those utilities.

696
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:20,033
The damage shows up right away. And some of it

697
00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:21,100
takes years to.

698
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:25,767
Surface. So when we can, we catch it right away

699
00:34:26,033 --> 00:34:29,066
and get that company to fix it, but there are

700
00:34:29,066 --> 00:34:29,166
some.

701
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,767
Historic damage that we're gonna have to go back and

702
00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:33,433
fix. So.

703
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:36,667
I think it was just last week that we got

704
00:34:36,667 --> 00:34:39,166
that contractor on board. It's a little late in the

705
00:34:39,166 --> 00:34:41,533
season, but we have outlined some of those projects.

706
00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:44,333
Projects. And that specifically was when some of the Drake

707
00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:44,734
road.

708
00:34:47,033 --> 00:34:49,500
The entire segment, actually all the way up to the

709
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:50,500
roundabout at.

710
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:53,367
I'm probably I'm sorry. Even further north than the roundabout,

711
00:34:53,433 --> 00:34:54,333
all the way into ravine.

712
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,867
Where there are gonna need to be spot repairs along

713
00:34:57,867 --> 00:34:59,266
that entire stretch. So.

714
00:35:00,567 --> 00:35:02,066
Yeah, I would anticipate we could get a lot of

715
00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:03,634
it done in 2027. But.

716
00:35:04,367 --> 00:35:07,266
Some of it inevitably might be something we defer. If

717
00:35:07,266 --> 00:35:09,500
it's better to wait for a project, we know that's

718
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:10,133
coming or.

719
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,567
Requires some more underground work or something to correct it

720
00:35:14,567 --> 00:35:17,066
the right way. So, yep. We do monitor those things.

721
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:19,066
Throughout the entire Township.

722
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,433
Cool. Thank you.

723
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:25,634
Good question.

724
00:35:28,033 --> 00:35:28,567
All right next.

725
00:35:29,333 --> 00:35:30,100
Some board updates.

726
00:35:31,634 --> 00:35:31,667
Updates. So

727
00:35:34,734 --> 00:35:36,900
we'll start with Mr. Sikora. .

728
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:41,433
I don't really have anything in particular update. I.

729
00:35:42,467 --> 00:35:46,066
Mutual usually have a spiel at Township board meetings. We're

730
00:35:46,066 --> 00:35:47,033
working heavily on budget.

731
00:35:48,033 --> 00:35:49,900
Right now. And that's the big thing is.

732
00:35:50,867 --> 00:35:53,300
Figuring out how much money we're gonna have. And.

733
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,367
Where we're gonna spend it and what's not gonna make

734
00:35:56,367 --> 00:35:59,000
the cut and what it is. So it's a lot

735
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,667
of work and.

736
00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:01,333
Hardware job.

737
00:36:03,066 --> 00:36:06,567
And, and the different other end of the sewer work,

738
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,433
if you're in Oshtemo and you have city water, it

739
00:36:09,433 --> 00:36:11,066
starts this weekend that they're gonna be.

740
00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:13,300
Flushing a Hibbard. So don't forget that it's on the

741
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:13,734
website.

742
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,900
Where it's coming, what days? So just heads up.

743
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,634
Does the city mail to residence? I, yes, I have

744
00:36:21,634 --> 00:36:24,333
well water, so I wouldn't know. So yeah, they, they

745
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,500
do, they mail to residents and let 'em know. Okay.

746
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:26,734
Good.

747
00:36:27,066 --> 00:36:29,100
And I know rich put it out there, but there.

748
00:36:30,467 --> 00:36:30,767
Wondered.

749
00:36:36,867 --> 00:36:39,266
Trustee for four, have anything for the group.

750
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,667
Confirmer I can share that we.

751
00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:49,767
Have received our ballots for the November election.

752
00:36:51,133 --> 00:36:53,767
We have not received our testing materials yet, but we

753
00:36:53,767 --> 00:36:56,000
expect to be completed with our testing.

754
00:36:56,767 --> 00:36:59,333
Before the end of this week, fingers crossed. We.

755
00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:02,367
Again, we're still waiting for the testing materials to get

756
00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:02,634
here.

757
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,033
And that's the process where we bring every tabulator into

758
00:37:07,033 --> 00:37:10,033
this room and every voter assist terminal into this room.

759
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,133
And we run.

760
00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:15,667
A series of ballots through each one of 'em.

761
00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:17,333
For public accuracy.

762
00:37:21,133 --> 00:37:23,266
and I guess the other thing is that the,

763
00:37:23,467 --> 00:37:25,900
we expect ballots to be picked up and mailed out

764
00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:29,000
on September 29th. So if you are on the permanent ballot,

765
00:37:29,333 --> 00:37:32,033
list you can watch out for your ballot. It'll be

766
00:37:32,033 --> 00:37:33,100
coming through the mail soon.

767
00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:41,834
Yeah, poor. Linda doesn't have any room. Laughter. She was

768
00:37:41,834 --> 00:37:45,433
cold. she? She has every single purple envelope back

769
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:46,033
there right now.

770
00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:46,667
So

771
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,300
I'm like, oh, ballots are here.

772
00:37:51,066 --> 00:37:53,433
treasure. Buszka.

773
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,333
Code just a 10 update, the last or date or.

774
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,033
None kind wise. So no interest tax summer taxes where

775
00:38:01,033 --> 00:38:03,433
yes was yesterday. And it's been a really unusual year.

776
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,900
Historically, we've had a sum payments come in on the

777
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:11,000
14th and some in the Dropbox and some random online.

778
00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:13,567
This year was crazy.

779
00:38:14,467 --> 00:38:18,533
Yesterday. like three staff, me, myself included we're going

780
00:38:19,133 --> 00:38:21,500
nonstop. Our stock of checks were this thick. I had

781
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,000
over 200.

782
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:25,266
Online payment. I don't know what happened, but we're still

783
00:38:25,266 --> 00:38:26,767
working on payments. .

784
00:38:28,367 --> 00:38:30,834
So we have the payments, but I'm gonna have to

785
00:38:30,834 --> 00:38:33,000
backdate some of 'em to yesterday cuz we had it,

786
00:38:33,033 --> 00:38:35,266
but it's just a catch up now. It it's been

787
00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:35,734
a crazy.

788
00:38:36,166 --> 00:38:39,567
Summer winter or summer tax. It was happened at that

789
00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:40,500
point. It was .

790
00:38:42,367 --> 00:38:44,333
I actually took a call from a resident.

791
00:38:47,567 --> 00:38:48,900
Must have been last Friday.

792
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,100
Who stopped in

793
00:38:52,166 --> 00:38:55,033
to pay taxes at one o'clock and she was questioning.

794
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,433
That one o'clock being that closure.

795
00:38:58,533 --> 00:39:00,367
And then when she came back to pay her taxes,

796
00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:04,367
taxes. She noted, you know, the number of people at

797
00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:07,066
the counter. And I, I had to describe to her

798
00:39:07,166 --> 00:39:08,033
I'm like, just because.

799
00:39:08,934 --> 00:39:11,667
Not everybody's trained on how to take tax payments. Like

800
00:39:11,867 --> 00:39:14,433
I don't take tax payments it's if I did, that

801
00:39:14,433 --> 00:39:15,333
would be very wrong.

802
00:39:16,166 --> 00:39:19,767
So there's a, there's a assumption that when somebody comes

803
00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:21,433
to the counter and they see people.

804
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,266
That they assume everybody knows how to do that.

805
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:29,500
So might be good information to share during.

806
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,567
Peak tax times, like not everybody knows and is trained

807
00:39:33,567 --> 00:39:36,033
on how to take these payments. Yeah. So mm-hmm

808
00:39:36,133 --> 00:39:38,066
or don't come at the last day. right.

809
00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:40,300
Definitely I'm the last day. Yeah.

810
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:42,767
Yeah, and we do stay open on the last day

811
00:39:42,767 --> 00:39:45,567
during the lunch. So nobody's sent away or walks away.

812
00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:48,033
We're open during lunch. Right? The other thing is we

813
00:39:48,033 --> 00:39:49,066
only have two terminals.

814
00:39:49,533 --> 00:39:51,867
Terminals. So it's like, regardless if I tour in 20.

815
00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:54,033
There's still only two people that can take payments for

816
00:39:54,033 --> 00:39:56,066
a time. Fine. Oh, that's so interesting.

817
00:40:00,233 --> 00:40:03,500
Can you like rent a terminal, like temporarily? Like, I

818
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,033
mean, I said we do send 'em back to their

819
00:40:05,133 --> 00:40:05,500
desk.

820
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,533
To run payments sometimes. Oh, okay. So you can, okay.

821
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,567
It just, you know, then they're going all the way

822
00:40:11,567 --> 00:40:14,133
back to their desk and that's the efficiency goes away.

823
00:40:14,233 --> 00:40:14,567
Yeah.

824
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,767
No poor sale yesterday. I was like, woo. She was

825
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:21,000
hopping. Yeah. She pulled a 200 payments out of the

826
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,500
Dropbox yesterday. Mm-hmm .

827
00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:25,333
We haven't had that happen in like five years. I

828
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:27,834
was like, what is happening this year? What's going on?

829
00:40:27,834 --> 00:40:28,734
Something's going on?

830
00:40:29,533 --> 00:40:31,767
It was, it was very strange. Hold on.

831
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:39,567
I think I just have a few updates for the.

832
00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:42,133
Kind of relevant more broadly.

833
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:44,567
So

834
00:40:45,533 --> 00:40:50,066
the Township board started community conversations this year to offer

835
00:40:50,066 --> 00:40:53,333
another opportunity for residents to engage with board members.

836
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:57,033
It kind of arose out of the battery energy storage

837
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:59,000
situation, but it's open.

838
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,767
To any topics of conversation.

839
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:06,500
Well, since we've added two planning commission meetings in order

840
00:41:06,667 --> 00:41:07,333
to advance.

841
00:41:08,166 --> 00:41:12,767
The ordinance, the November and December community conversations will be

842
00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:13,166
canceled.

843
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:18,166
Because the planning, commission meetings and community conversations.

844
00:41:19,066 --> 00:41:21,100
Were on the same day. So rather than trying to

845
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,300
find another day to do another, do that commute, we're

846
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,500
just going to let the planning commission do. It's very

847
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:26,867
important.

848
00:41:27,433 --> 00:41:31,000
Work. And there will not be community conversations for November

849
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,500
and December.

850
00:41:32,567 --> 00:41:35,033
And we'll make sure that we broadcast that.

851
00:41:36,767 --> 00:41:39,100
Widely from the various Township.

852
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,000
Social media and website and all that good stuff.

853
00:41:44,033 --> 00:41:48,033
They've been very successful though, and really an enjoyable.

854
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,133
I think everyone that's attended, it's really an enjoyable.

855
00:41:53,867 --> 00:41:57,634
Time to listen and have a conversation with residents and.

856
00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:01,100
And you know, and a little less formal.

857
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,000
Environment. Yeah. The hour goes really quickly.

858
00:42:04,934 --> 00:42:06,033
It really does. Yeah.

859
00:42:09,066 --> 00:42:10,367
One other question.

860
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:13,367
Just because we have so many members of the planning

861
00:42:13,367 --> 00:42:15,667
commission here, and so many members of the board here.

862
00:42:16,767 --> 00:42:18,867
Is kind of in an unprecedented.

863
00:42:19,634 --> 00:42:22,100
Way we've had residents ask to have their.

864
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:25,300
Feedback their letters.

865
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:29,634
Letters included given to the board members included in packets.

866
00:42:30,867 --> 00:42:33,000
Packets. And we've tried to accommodate that.

867
00:42:34,133 --> 00:42:37,133
In a systematic way and it's still not systematized.

868
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:39,133
Enough. So

869
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:44,100
it is kind of, I mean, the amount of resonant

870
00:42:44,433 --> 00:42:46,900
feedback we're getting right now is I certainly.

871
00:42:47,834 --> 00:42:49,734
I've never seen anything like that. I mean, you've been

872
00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:52,100
around longer than I have, but at a high level,

873
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,567
it's, it's really remarkable.

874
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,867
And there is no

875
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,100
there's no precedence for it. And there's also, it's not

876
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,000
required by law.

877
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,734
That we include that public comment.

878
00:43:04,767 --> 00:43:06,066
In that is submitted in that way.

879
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:10,066
In packets or attach it to minutes. It's a practice

880
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:10,634
that.

881
00:43:11,433 --> 00:43:12,867
That sometimes is done.

882
00:43:13,734 --> 00:43:19,433
So last week at, at Jodi's request because it is

883
00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,667
coming from multiple directions, we are gonna.

884
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:24,000
Put out, not a policy, but a procedure.

885
00:43:25,033 --> 00:43:28,367
So that everybody is operating under the same set of

886
00:43:28,467 --> 00:43:30,266
information when it comes to.

887
00:43:31,367 --> 00:43:32,533
How public comment.

888
00:43:33,533 --> 00:43:36,100
For those that wanna have it submitted is going to

889
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,000
be treated.

890
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:42,767
And right now and it, it rich, our meeting communications

891
00:43:42,767 --> 00:43:45,734
person was on vacation last week. So I needed.

892
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:47,433
Him into that mix.

893
00:43:48,567 --> 00:43:50,367
We're going to the plan is.

894
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:54,300
That we're gonna treat, we're going to, we're gonna put

895
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:58,734
public comment on the website. Like we do the minutes

896
00:43:59,166 --> 00:43:59,433
or.

897
00:43:59,834 --> 00:44:03,734
The receipts and disbursements report. So if you wanna read

898
00:44:03,734 --> 00:44:07,000
the public comment, that's come in on a, on for

899
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,834
a particular meeting.

900
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:11,000
You can just click on that link and it'll be

901
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,734
all there in one place. So.

902
00:44:13,634 --> 00:44:16,100
I certainly, we certainly don't wanna miss.

903
00:44:17,133 --> 00:44:18,867
Public comment that's intended for a packet.

904
00:44:19,634 --> 00:44:22,100
But it is a little difficult internally.

905
00:44:22,867 --> 00:44:25,266
To sort of, does it go this week next week?

906
00:44:25,266 --> 00:44:27,367
Does it go to planning? Does it go to Township

907
00:44:27,367 --> 00:44:29,033
board? Does it go to everybody? So.

908
00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:33,567
Hopefully very soon, we'll have a procedure that everybody can

909
00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:35,066
count on and, and follow.

910
00:44:36,033 --> 00:44:38,033
So I just, that came up at our meeting.

911
00:44:38,867 --> 00:44:41,066
Last week. One of the residents said that we weren't

912
00:44:41,066 --> 00:44:41,734
getting the letters.

913
00:44:42,667 --> 00:44:45,367
Letters. And so I talked to Jody and I asked

914
00:44:45,367 --> 00:44:47,000
her, are we not getting anything?

915
00:44:47,834 --> 00:44:50,667
Because I'm sure it's the same with every board.

916
00:44:51,634 --> 00:44:53,634
Prior to the meeting, we get an agenda.

917
00:44:54,467 --> 00:44:57,533
And we get the documentation that's supporting what's on that

918
00:44:57,533 --> 00:44:59,000
agenda. Mm-hmm and oftentimes.

919
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:02,500
There's a bunch of handwritten letters. Mm-hmm that are

920
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:05,433
attached to it. Okay. Mm-hmm and then sometimes.

921
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:09,300
During the meeting mm-hmm because they, the.

922
00:45:12,066 --> 00:45:15,734
Letters haven't come in or in time. Okay. We get

923
00:45:15,734 --> 00:45:18,100
more letters to read mm-hmm and at the.

924
00:45:18,467 --> 00:45:22,500
Meetings last night or what did we get? Half inch,

925
00:45:23,233 --> 00:45:25,900
three quarters of an inch pages of letters from.

926
00:45:26,867 --> 00:45:28,533
Empty state people. Nobody can make a statement. They've gotta

927
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:29,333
put it in writing.

928
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:31,533
And so you hear it twice.

929
00:45:32,567 --> 00:45:34,867
And you get a whole stack of letters. So.

930
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,867
I think it's a great idea to have a procedure

931
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,100
if that's gonna make things easier, but this perception that

932
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:41,834
we're not reading.

933
00:45:42,867 --> 00:45:44,900
Comments or letters that are presented is.

934
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:47,500
Totally off base, as far as I'm concerned.

935
00:45:48,567 --> 00:45:50,000
Well, like I said, it's unprecedented.

936
00:45:50,867 --> 00:45:53,500
I mean, I can think of earlier in my board

937
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:54,367
service, like.

938
00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:57,667
Once in a while, we'd get something in writing that

939
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,367
would be requested to go to the full board. So.

940
00:46:02,433 --> 00:46:03,100
You know, I think

941
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,867
how will we know that something's been posted? Are you

942
00:46:07,867 --> 00:46:11,033
gonna send out a, so just like the Township, you

943
00:46:11,033 --> 00:46:12,166
know, like if you go to click on.

944
00:46:12,567 --> 00:46:15,000
The website and there's the agenda. And then it might

945
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,767
say under the agenda, receipts and disbursements in minutes.

946
00:46:19,066 --> 00:46:21,767
It, I have, hasn't been fully vetted yet, but it'll

947
00:46:21,767 --> 00:46:22,667
say something like.

948
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:24,867
Public comment.

949
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:29,867
Received concerning this meeting or, you know, like it it'll

950
00:46:29,867 --> 00:46:31,767
be a, it'll be a Dr. You know, it'll be

951
00:46:31,834 --> 00:46:32,900
a link there. Okay.

952
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:36,166
We'll have to go and look to see if there

953
00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:38,500
is anything. We're not gonna get some kind of notification

954
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:41,667
that, Hey, we've posted public comments. Oh. You know,

955
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,533
what we do put receipts and disbursements in those kinds

956
00:46:45,533 --> 00:46:47,066
of things on a consent agenda.

957
00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:50,100
On the regular in the, on the consent for the

958
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,033
regular agenda to remind the board members.

959
00:46:52,934 --> 00:46:54,567
To go read those things. So that's a good point.

960
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,634
We should probably, if I put a link on the

961
00:46:56,634 --> 00:46:57,667
agenda link on the agenda,

962
00:46:59,166 --> 00:47:01,367
but like if we get 50 pages in a meeting,

963
00:47:02,467 --> 00:47:04,767
and we hear the comment and we get it in

964
00:47:04,767 --> 00:47:06,900
writing. I don't wanna read it again for the next

965
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:10,033
meeting. Right? I've already heard it, read it and unread

966
00:47:10,033 --> 00:47:10,367
it again.

967
00:47:10,867 --> 00:47:13,100
In the minute, like how do, how do we organize

968
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:16,367
that? Because it, because it makes the package packets unmanageable.

969
00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:18,834
Mm-hmm if the stuff's in there and.

970
00:47:19,066 --> 00:47:21,166
Triple kit. I will say, I know. I believe that

971
00:47:21,166 --> 00:47:22,300
there are some residents.

972
00:47:23,233 --> 00:47:25,433
Residents that bring their comments in writing because.

973
00:47:27,066 --> 00:47:29,533
Maybe they're they just don't use a computer a lot.

974
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:32,133
So they type 'em out and bring them. I think

975
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:35,133
they're generating the content they're giving us actually. Oh, I

976
00:47:35,133 --> 00:47:37,000
don't know if they're drafting it. Okay.

977
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,433
Well, like I said, it's not fully vetted yet. I

978
00:47:42,433 --> 00:47:43,834
think what you're asking is.

979
00:47:45,033 --> 00:47:47,066
If it's like, like if it was given in the

980
00:47:47,066 --> 00:47:49,033
public comment in the meeting, can it just be in

981
00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:52,266
the minutes and not, not repeated in another, in another

982
00:47:52,266 --> 00:47:52,634
packet?

983
00:47:53,133 --> 00:47:57,266
Yes. So somehow some, some logic, my goal is, is

984
00:47:57,433 --> 00:47:57,767
that.

985
00:47:59,266 --> 00:47:59,533
The

986
00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:04,433
the public comments were no longer be attached to your

987
00:48:04,433 --> 00:48:07,567
packet. They'll be in a separate place on the website

988
00:48:07,734 --> 00:48:09,033
for you to go read them.

989
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:13,266
But there's public comments in the, in advance.

990
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,634
Mm-hmm that get attached to the packet that come

991
00:48:15,734 --> 00:48:17,834
I'm assuming in the mail to Jodi. Yeah, but we

992
00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:19,834
might, and then there's public comment in the.

993
00:48:20,567 --> 00:48:24,000
Meeting mm-hmm . So the ones you receive in the

994
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,100
meeting, if we don't get it electronically,

995
00:48:27,066 --> 00:48:29,367
this is what I have to work out with the

996
00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:30,033
people that.

997
00:48:30,867 --> 00:48:33,667
Know more about the website than I do that we

998
00:48:33,667 --> 00:48:36,166
can go. And then like, let's say, somebody gives you

999
00:48:36,166 --> 00:48:38,066
a letter at the Dias and we didn't get it

1000
00:48:38,066 --> 00:48:38,667
in an email.

1001
00:48:39,066 --> 00:48:41,433
Then we'll scan it and just add it to.

1002
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:44,533
That minutes? Yes. Or something. Okay.

1003
00:48:46,233 --> 00:48:49,533
Yeah, I'm not intending the 50 pages we got last

1004
00:48:49,533 --> 00:48:52,000
week, putting that in another packet. Cause that would just

1005
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,266
be.

1006
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:57,300
Unnecessary. No. If we get public comment about something that

1007
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,133
is an actual public hearing item.

1008
00:49:00,166 --> 00:49:02,033
I'm gonna put that in your packet. Yeah. If it

1009
00:49:02,033 --> 00:49:04,567
comes in in time, otherwise if it's just general comment

1010
00:49:04,567 --> 00:49:07,033
about a work item, we're not gonna be.

1011
00:49:08,033 --> 00:49:10,266
Excuse me putting that in packets anymore. Right. But we'll

1012
00:49:10,266 --> 00:49:12,266
so public hearing publish it. Public public hearing would be

1013
00:49:12,266 --> 00:49:12,734
different.

1014
00:49:15,066 --> 00:49:18,500
So look for more information on that soon and you

1015
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:20,166
know, we'll do our best to get it right.

1016
00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:23,767
But certainly it's something that if some, if it's not

1017
00:49:23,767 --> 00:49:26,100
working, we'll amend it and try to make it work

1018
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:26,834
better. So,

1019
00:49:30,867 --> 00:49:33,734
I've been having my supervisors open office hours.

1020
00:49:34,467 --> 00:49:38,033
And people are pretty regularly attending it's so it's very

1021
00:49:38,033 --> 00:49:39,367
enjoyable. Another good.

1022
00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:44,734
Opportunity to talk to folks and answer questions and.

1023
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:46,133
Like for example,

1024
00:49:50,867 --> 00:49:54,333
having the planning or having the ordinance on the TVs

1025
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:55,433
at your last meeting.

1026
00:49:56,166 --> 00:49:59,767
That came out of a resident suggestion from my previous

1027
00:49:59,834 --> 00:50:01,000
supervisor meeting.

1028
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,900
And I thought it was a pretty good one. I

1029
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:04,100
mean, I.

1030
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,533
I, I watched it and I liked having it up

1031
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:11,433
there to read along with you. So anyway, you know,

1032
00:50:11,433 --> 00:50:13,166
really trying to build those bridge.

1033
00:50:13,533 --> 00:50:15,433
Bridges and let people ask questions and.

1034
00:50:16,767 --> 00:50:18,634
So, and it's fun to have because for the first

1035
00:50:18,634 --> 00:50:21,500
three or four months, nobody came. So it was, it's

1036
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,500
fun to have people come.

1037
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:28,100
As Trustee Sikora mentioned, it's full steam ahead on budgets.

1038
00:50:28,133 --> 00:50:31,033
And if you're watching any of the Township board meetings,

1039
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:31,333
not only.

1040
00:50:31,834 --> 00:50:34,767
Are we discussing budget? We're also discussing millages and fund

1041
00:50:34,767 --> 00:50:35,066
balances.

1042
00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,567
Balances. So we have

1043
00:50:39,433 --> 00:50:45,000
meetings, September 22nd and September 23rd and September 20.

1044
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,333
Ninth with a goal to have a completed budget for

1045
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:50,133
public con.

1046
00:50:51,634 --> 00:50:54,567
Public. Consumption's the wrong word for public.

1047
00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:56,533
Review review.

1048
00:50:59,233 --> 00:51:00,433
By October 13th.

1049
00:51:01,533 --> 00:51:03,667
So that's kind of where we're at in the pieces

1050
00:51:04,066 --> 00:51:04,500
with that.

1051
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:10,100
Oh, I haven't talked to the it director. This is

1052
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,834
kind of just something for the broad.

1053
00:51:12,767 --> 00:51:14,033
Broader boards here.

1054
00:51:15,433 --> 00:51:18,100
The mics on the diocese and the mics in this

1055
00:51:18,133 --> 00:51:18,300
room.

1056
00:51:19,066 --> 00:51:21,567
Are hot when you watch.

1057
00:51:22,667 --> 00:51:25,033
Online the amount of

1058
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,367
conversation you can hear in this room is.

1059
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,634
Remarkable. So

1060
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,834
I'm gonna put a reminder.

1061
00:51:34,867 --> 00:51:36,300
I'm gonna ask to have a reminder up there that

1062
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:39,000
you shut your mics off. When like, if you're, if

1063
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,767
you're on a break for a restroom or whatever, you

1064
00:51:41,767 --> 00:51:42,734
need to shut your mics.

1065
00:51:43,066 --> 00:51:44,567
Mics off, but even

1066
00:51:45,333 --> 00:51:48,000
in the gallery here, you can hear a lot of

1067
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,033
conversations. So.

1068
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,100
Talk to the it director about it.

1069
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,100
I'm sure it's not at all intended to be broadcast

1070
00:51:56,033 --> 00:51:59,033
on public media networks. So you should just be aware

1071
00:51:59,033 --> 00:51:59,433
of that.

1072
00:52:02,166 --> 00:52:03,300
But the other thing

1073
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:06,066
talking to a resident today.

1074
00:52:07,266 --> 00:52:11,000
Is you got when you're, they, they cannot.

1075
00:52:12,033 --> 00:52:12,900
Hear past this bulkhead.

1076
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:18,166
And so really have to, when you're at the Dias,

1077
00:52:18,467 --> 00:52:20,033
speak into that microphone.

1078
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:23,900
Some folks have soft voices.

1079
00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:27,567
Naturally, but still getting

1080
00:52:28,834 --> 00:52:30,300
a lot regular.

1081
00:52:31,066 --> 00:52:34,367
Feedback that for folks sitting behind this bulkhead they're they

1082
00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:37,767
just, they can't hear what you're saying. So just be

1083
00:52:37,767 --> 00:52:38,767
mindful of that.

1084
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:46,867
Can't read my own handwriting. So I'll move on. We

1085
00:52:46,867 --> 00:52:49,567
have a newsletter coming out the first week of October.

1086
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,767
So look for that. Rich is put in the final.

1087
00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:55,333
Details and

1088
00:52:58,367 --> 00:53:01,767
oh, I can read it. I wanna thank the clerk

1089
00:53:01,767 --> 00:53:02,734
for your flexibility.

1090
00:53:03,834 --> 00:53:05,867
She was talking about all the upcoming tech.

1091
00:53:07,233 --> 00:53:09,300
Testing for the machines and.

1092
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,066
She had to, she, she let me borrow some of

1093
00:53:13,066 --> 00:53:15,634
her time in the meeting room this week. in

1094
00:53:15,634 --> 00:53:18,900
order to, so thanks for your flexibility on that Absolut.

1095
00:53:19,066 --> 00:53:21,166
Absolutely Trustee Chapman.

1096
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:24,133
My bad you're you know why it is is cuz

1097
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:26,734
you're in Dr. Suit and I don't recognize you. That's

1098
00:53:26,734 --> 00:53:29,533
that's totally what it is. It's no problem. No problem.

1099
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:30,066
Did you wanna.

1100
00:53:30,667 --> 00:53:33,900
Close this out. I have no other comments. I just

1101
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:37,033
appreciate all the work that everybody around this table does

1102
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:37,767
for our citizens.

1103
00:53:39,066 --> 00:53:40,066
Citizens and appreciate all the.

1104
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,133
Activity we've had as far as public involvement.

1105
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,066
So thank you to each of you for the service

1106
00:53:46,133 --> 00:53:47,000
you do for our community.

1107
00:53:48,133 --> 00:53:48,867
Thank you Trustee.

1108
00:53:51,266 --> 00:53:54,667
And now we'll go to item seven public comment. We

1109
00:53:54,667 --> 00:53:57,000
do have some members of the public. Did have anyone

1110
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,867
wishing to make public.

1111
00:53:58,467 --> 00:54:02,000
Comment. Go ahead, Ms. I'm ready? Can you all hear

1112
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,000
me? Yes. Yes. Well, I'm gonna start off with complimenting

1113
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,300
the planning.

1114
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:09,367
Commission. I think they deserve it and they probably don't

1115
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:10,834
hear this very often.

1116
00:54:11,767 --> 00:54:13,300
For the process with the ordinance.

1117
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:16,767
Revisions because it's a lot of work.

1118
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:20,900
And I think going through it word by word is

1119
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:23,734
really to start for the first draft is the best

1120
00:54:23,734 --> 00:54:25,767
way to do it, even though it is painful.

1121
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,300
It's painful for everybody, but, and I also sympathize with

1122
00:54:29,367 --> 00:54:30,634
the amount of work that.

1123
00:54:31,433 --> 00:54:35,000
The planning commissioners, the planning director.

1124
00:54:36,033 --> 00:54:37,100
And the staff

1125
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,000
go undergo with this because it's a complicated area.

1126
00:54:42,133 --> 00:54:45,000
And it, my brain hurts trying to get, look, figure

1127
00:54:45,033 --> 00:54:47,367
out everything that I need to in order to understand

1128
00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:48,033
this issue.

1129
00:54:48,767 --> 00:54:50,066
And I know a lot of residents feel the same

1130
00:54:50,066 --> 00:54:51,266
and we have a lot of experts.

1131
00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:55,100
Between the board and the community. So I, I, I

1132
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,033
think that they, they.

1133
00:54:56,767 --> 00:54:59,433
They deserve that recognition and for doing this work.

1134
00:55:00,166 --> 00:55:02,033
Round of work because I think it's significant.

1135
00:55:02,867 --> 00:55:05,066
And I just appreciate it.

1136
00:55:07,467 --> 00:55:10,100
Also would like to address the issue of.

1137
00:55:11,066 --> 00:55:14,066
Addressing all of these different en energy ordinances, a single

1138
00:55:14,066 --> 00:55:14,634
ordinance.

1139
00:55:15,634 --> 00:55:19,333
Is that I know, I, I think I brought this.

1140
00:55:20,367 --> 00:55:22,100
Before before the board and the plan commission.

1141
00:55:23,066 --> 00:55:26,500
But having separate ordinances is something that the state recommends.

1142
00:55:27,433 --> 00:55:28,734
Recommends also other experts recommend.

1143
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:31,767
And there's some good reasons for it. It, it doesn't

1144
00:55:31,767 --> 00:55:32,367
have to do with.

1145
00:55:33,133 --> 00:55:35,000
The workload for planning staff.

1146
00:55:36,133 --> 00:55:39,767
Because I, I think our planning staff have the capability.

1147
00:55:40,567 --> 00:55:43,667
And the, I guess, the bandwidth to work on it

1148
00:55:43,667 --> 00:55:44,100
all at once.

1149
00:55:45,233 --> 00:55:48,533
But the reasons why you should do it separately is

1150
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:49,000
one.

1151
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:51,834
Because of bandwidth issue for everybody.

1152
00:55:52,767 --> 00:55:55,133
Is that you are dealing with three different technologies, solar,

1153
00:55:55,367 --> 00:55:56,300
wind, and batteries.

1154
00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:01,033
Those are all different, even though they're connected into one

1155
00:56:01,033 --> 00:56:01,300
system.

1156
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:04,166
The system may have a lot of similarities, but they're

1157
00:56:04,166 --> 00:56:04,867
each different.

1158
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:08,900
And if you, you wanna be careful about not.

1159
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:13,367
O of overlooking the fact that there's some unique differences

1160
00:56:13,667 --> 00:56:16,100
in, in them that need to be addressed, which you

1161
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:17,300
could easily do in a single.

1162
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,834
Draft. So I recommend that for the second draft.

1163
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:23,900
Breaking it up because I think that for the planning

1164
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:26,266
commission to review it, it's gonna be a lot easier

1165
00:56:26,667 --> 00:56:29,033
to look at solar, you know, battery first and then

1166
00:56:29,033 --> 00:56:30,000
solar. And then.

1167
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:33,533
Wind solar was done before. Anything else? So that was

1168
00:56:33,634 --> 00:56:34,000
done.

1169
00:56:35,266 --> 00:56:37,100
You know, on its own. And also I've been told

1170
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:38,100
that Comstock.

1171
00:56:38,867 --> 00:56:42,033
Did do it is doing its ordinances separately for energy

1172
00:56:42,033 --> 00:56:44,100
and that they think that's a really good idea.

1173
00:56:44,934 --> 00:56:47,433
So there's some good reasons to handle that. And I

1174
00:56:47,433 --> 00:56:50,100
think that for especially a resident who are not really

1175
00:56:50,166 --> 00:56:51,066
familiar with this issue,

1176
00:56:52,033 --> 00:56:54,100
it's really hard and I think it'd be easier for

1177
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,367
them to recommend, you know, this is what this is,

1178
00:56:56,367 --> 00:56:57,533
what is involved with solar.

1179
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:00,500
For example. So I just like to.

1180
00:57:01,533 --> 00:57:03,000
Forward that also I have a, a.

1181
00:57:03,834 --> 00:57:05,567
Question for Trustee Sikora.

1182
00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:09,667
Is that there is mentioned at meetings that there was

1183
00:57:09,667 --> 00:57:13,000
an environmental board, I think, in conjunction with the parks.

1184
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:16,533
Parks, and it's not really official anymore. What is the

1185
00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:19,166
status of that? What is the purpose or is there,

1186
00:57:19,467 --> 00:57:21,867
or is it like an appendix? Just kind of sitting

1187
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:22,100
there?

1188
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,266
Mm-hmm . That was why I brought it up.

1189
00:57:25,533 --> 00:57:27,634
But what is, you know, what is it? Has it.

1190
00:57:28,367 --> 00:57:30,166
I'm on it. So I can tell you that much.

1191
00:57:30,567 --> 00:57:33,066
Apparently I was appointed to it. I think we needed

1192
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:35,100
to have it because of an ordinance.

1193
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,867
Required us to have an environmental board.

1194
00:57:39,066 --> 00:57:41,100
I don't know whether it was for appeal or for

1195
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,900
something. Yes, no, that's right. Okay. Yeah. And then, but

1196
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:46,500
we've never had an appeal, so we've never actually.

1197
00:57:47,066 --> 00:57:49,667
Met right. The, the board was formed when we thought

1198
00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:52,100
there was going to be an appeal that was pre

1199
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:53,567
COVID. That was quite a bit a long time ago.

1200
00:57:53,567 --> 00:57:54,100
COVID yeah.

1201
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:59,533
We were anticipating that a resident was going to basically

1202
00:57:59,533 --> 00:58:01,767
wanna fight against the ordinance and appeal it to someone.

1203
00:58:02,667 --> 00:58:03,300
It's an appeal at someone. So we formed the board

1204
00:58:03,367 --> 00:58:06,000
and then they never, they never ended up, we, they

1205
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,300
figured out a different way to, you know, deal with

1206
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:09,033
their issue. But.

1207
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,100
That's. Yeah. Yeah. And that's all I was addressing is

1208
00:58:13,033 --> 00:58:16,000
all these different committees. Are they meeting? Are they.

1209
00:58:16,767 --> 00:58:18,000
Current, you know, have they.

1210
00:58:19,367 --> 00:58:22,333
Gone beyond their, you know, use or have they, do

1211
00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,100
they need to, you know, come up with a mission

1212
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,767
statement to understand what their purpose is? That that's what

1213
00:58:26,767 --> 00:58:27,066
I was.

1214
00:58:27,233 --> 00:58:29,667
Bringing up with that. Thank you. Hope that answers here.

1215
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:30,000
Yep.

1216
00:58:33,166 --> 00:58:35,066
Are you all set, Rob? Yeah, I'm done. Thank you.

1217
00:58:35,066 --> 00:58:35,300
Okay.

1218
00:58:36,634 --> 00:58:39,634
Any other public comment? No, he covered it. okay.

1219
00:58:41,133 --> 00:58:41,900
All right. Well,

1220
00:58:43,233 --> 00:58:44,000
with that it is.

1221
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:48,100
6 28. We have exhausted our agenda and this meeting is

1222
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:50,166
adjourned. Thank you everyone for your great work.

1223
00:58:51,233 --> 00:58:52,000
Very appreciated.

1224
00:58:54,066 --> 00:58:54,266
I have