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good evening everyone

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and first and foremost welcome to the

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San Bruno city council meeting of the

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regular meeting of January the 10th 2023

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and uh Happy New Year to everyone

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and may I please have roll call

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council member Alvarez

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council member Marty

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here council member Salazar

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here vice mayor Hamilton

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here mayor Rico Medina here

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thank you very much all president

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accounted for and now item number three

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will be the Pledge of Allegiance I've

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asked if the president of the Board of

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Supervisors and our supervisor for San

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Bruno Dave Pine could lead us in the

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pledge this evening

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thank you Mr Pine

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at this time uh we will go on to item

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four which is public comments for items

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that are not on the agenda any member of

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the public wishing to speak we'll have

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up to three minutes the city clerk has your speaker card so thank you for

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everyone doing that so those that are

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present in the audience will be asked to

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speak first and if there are any that

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are via Zoom we will take those at that

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time so with that city clerk if you

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could call the names we have an

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in-person speaker Chris Borges

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just hold on I just want to make sure

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your mic is live so we're just going to

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check that real quick hold on

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good thank you all right sorry for the

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interruption so you go up uh Crystal

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Springs Road on the right side there's a

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white safety line that goes all the way

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up it's completely faded and when you

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come down on the right side faded

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25 mile per hour Zone people are flying

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coming down about 50 53.

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the middle of the two lanes that are

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striped those are worn out

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then you go down

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what is it a Sanborn Avenue in Princeton

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so people are a little bit nervous

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coming over from Princeton Sanborn

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Avenue make a left on Princeton they're

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coming down they're really just flying

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coming down Sanborn Avenue unsafe

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and then a couple different issues

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there's a tree in front of Walgreens on

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San Mateo Avenue that has not been

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rectified over two years we've been

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talking about it I trust it

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it's dark it's depleted people are

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walking down

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on the sidewalk coming out and it's

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pitch black so it's unsafe for kids

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adults seniors coming out of there

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they say it's Walgreens tree it's on the sidewalk it's outside the

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perimeter of Walgreens

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has not been taken care of

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the garbage throughout San Bruno is

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really bad you know if if you got the

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city of Sierra Moreno

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and you got City Hall is clean we should

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try to keep the rest of the San Bruno

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also clean just like the city hall

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you have a San Bruno fire department

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that's the oldest Fire Department in San

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Mateo County

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we got some big issues ahead of us to

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make some good decisions to move forward

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and uh you know school zones I think the

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patrol needs to be you know maybe out

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there a little bit more for the kids in

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the morning

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and uh when schools let out

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when you're seen it's a big difference

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when you're seen and you're out there

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and the safety of a kid is a huge

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more on the back side on crestmore Drive

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near John Muir

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you have a crosswalk coming out of the

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so the Red Zone when they sprayed it

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it's really short so when you're coming

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down crestmore kids are coming out

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there's a blind spot because the car is

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parked too close to the crosswalk

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if you open up the crosswalk I mean the

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Red Zone and spray it a little bit

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further up you won't have a blind spot

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for the kid to come through or a child

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or a senior or anybody a pedestrian to

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come through that crosswalk to be seen

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so a little bit of a

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follow-up it's tough for people to come

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to the meetings but a lot of people are

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talking about this a lot of things in

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the city of San Bruno

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and it's hard for people to call and

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follow up and do the due diligence of

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what the city is supposed to be doing

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for the people the taxpayers of San

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each department should be communicating

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with others they should be talking to

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the city manager they should be talking

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to you guys and you know bring it back

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to what it used to be like when Mr

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Marshall was here open door policy let's

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take care of business let's move forward

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that's it thank you Mr boges thank you

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I'm receiving information that maybe the

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sound is not functioning on uh

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city net service so if anybody could

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just check that real quick please next

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speaker please

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we have one remote hand up Tim

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there are no other speakers within the

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audience that we should speak on public

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comments okay please

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Tim I will now be bringing you in

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Tim whenever you're ready you may begin

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ahai actually it's Raina good evening

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everyone thank you so much for the

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opportunity to speak tonight and I want

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to bring

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a couple of issues well the same issue

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is one is the safety of Huntington and

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there's not a stop sign there so it's a

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blind spot to turn left on Flora to on

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um Huntington going north going north of

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course uh also Florida Park you know

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Florida and Taylor is basically

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it's not safe we need at least The

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Pedestrian right away

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okay it is about time I see uh that it's

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going to be a dress about how finishing

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Florida Park we don't need okay the

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Florida Park is fine I just I I think

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the families in the neighborhood don't

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have the time to be calling and

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following up but safety in the park

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close by it's important because the the

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uh I work every day and I I I'm not the

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only one who basically Femme for

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ourselves when the cards just run like

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40 miles an hour

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okay so we need pedestrian right away

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Taylor everywhere surrounding Florida

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um I don't know what else uh to say but

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please focus on that that is so

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and thank you so much for allowing me to

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speak

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thank you for your comments rain

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I do not have any other speaker

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oh the remote hands are raised thank you

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very much thank you for your comments

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we'll move on to item five which is

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announcements and presentations uh first

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we'll start with item a staff update on

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the city's response to the late 2022 and

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the early obviously we all know this

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winter storms

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that was not uh sound effects that was

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and that is what we just heard but with

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that I'd like to turn it over to our

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city manager uh which um I don't know if

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it's a good sign or not for that for

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intro from outside

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that was very fitting introduction thank

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you mayor Devon Grogan city manager to

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the mayor members of council members of

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the public both here and at home my name

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is Javon Grogan and I'm the city manager

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and I have the pleasure of providing a

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brief update on the storm that we just

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hear we have an another mini storm front

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uh this will be a very brief

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conversation uh up on the screen you

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have the uh also Matthew Lee our Public

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Works director uh he is here uh but I

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have uh agreed to run uh the council in

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the community through this brief

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presentation uh we'll provide a quick

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overview of our storm preparation uh

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we'll talk about the city's response our

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activation of the what we call the EOC

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our Emergency Operations Center we'll

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talk a little bit about the public

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messaging as well as a picture is worth

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a thousand words so we'll probably have

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about 15 000 words in this presentation

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via pictures and then talk about next

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steps and certainly take any questions

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from the city council

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so just a general note uh every time

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there's a storm we do preparation

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leading up to this storm we cleaned

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trash in the community and removed

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debris we cleaned what's called catch

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basins uh the grapes and also our trash

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capture devices at our storm inlets

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across the city we know that those

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routinely accumulate with trash and we

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try and clean those out ahead of a storm

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we also ordered a number of supplies we

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monitor the weather the county activated

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their Emergency Operations Center and so

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know that your staff here at the city of

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San Bruno was a part of all of those

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calls and we ensured that we had the

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appropriate personnel on on scene

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from all the news reports these were

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record storms uh the San Francisco

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region experienced a total storm surge

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uh greater than the amount of rainfall

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that has fallen

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in a five-day period in the last hundred

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years second in the last hundred years

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and so we here at the city of San Bruno

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activated our Emergency Operations

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Center the city's Municipal Code gives

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the city manager the power to sign an

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immediate Proclamation and so I took

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that action and we immediately activated

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our Emergency Operations Center to

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monitor the storm the picture that is on

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the screen is a picture of your San

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Bruno ELC and our team

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monitoring and actually responding to

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incidents we also set up something that

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thankfully we did not have to activate

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which is a tep a temporary evacuation

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Center that was going to be here at the

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senior center it's a location that we

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have that has a generator and could be a

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warming place and a evacuation Center if

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we if we need needed and we were fully

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prepared and even tonight we have left

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our emergency trailer out there uh

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filled filled with the necessary

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supplies should we need to activate

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so uh sandbags as we all know sandbags

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were in short supply not just in the

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county but across the bay area

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thankfully due to the work of our public

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works department we ordered pre-filled

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sandbags but like most cities we quickly

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ran out I'm happy to announce that here

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in the city of San Bruno we did not have

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a shortage however like many other

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communities experienced we had about one

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day where we had a low on short on on

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sandbags and then about three o'clock we

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were able to utilize one of our vendors

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Jericho Project that is helping us with

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our fire mitigation and within a phone

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call had about 20 people here in a

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matter of 30 minutes filling sandbags

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for this community and so those pictures

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there are indicative of what occurred

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over several days of the storm surge we

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had residents coming in very orderly

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picking up sandbags and we continue to

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have necessary sandbags for both the

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community and protect public

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infrastructure so I just want to

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congratulate both the public works

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department and Jericho Project and thank

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you thank them for the work that they

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did

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as the community and the council knows

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we certainly pushed out a number of

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communication on frankly every medium

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that we have available just want to take

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a moment and we'll do it a little bit

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later remind the community that SMC

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alert San Mateo County alert we really

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need you to register for that that is

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how we will notify you in an emergency

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sort of doing a reverse 9-1-1 where we

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dial every phone possible that's not a

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opt-in SMC alert is a opt-in system and

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we really need every member of the

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community to opt into that system

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because we can actually triangulate by

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neighborhood and buy the information

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that you put in when you register for

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that system and so I won't go through

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all of the announcements but just thank

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you thank you to our Communications team

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in the EOC that pushed out all of the

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various alerts to the community

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I hear the thunderstorms continuing to

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roll as we talk we set up a number of

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dedicated

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contact cell phone numbers we don't want

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everyone calling the non-emergency 9-1-1

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number for everything and so there are

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phones phone numbers to call if you see

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a flooded intersection if you need help

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with Logistics housing and so all of

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that information was pushed out on our

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website and is available to the

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community but in the event of emergency

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always call 9-1-1 and when in doubt call

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our non our non-emergency number

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also important to note in just a minute

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when I take my seat we will have one

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Shoreline provide a presentation on

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their work with regard to the seventh

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and walnut area and other work to

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develop a long-term fix for some of the

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flooding that has occurred in our

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community just an important note that we

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worked with one Shoreline and thanks to

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some infrastructure that they've

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recently installed we were able to push

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out a proactive message to alert the

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community that we did expect flooding in

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that area and continue to issue alerts

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specific to that area

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overall our preliminary damage

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assessment has approximately well at the

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time we printed this 14 but now there's

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a list of 16 areas where we've had

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various mudslides sinkholes we had a

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street light outage of in a portion of

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our community near Whitman Way and

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Princeton after and during the storm as

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well as

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manhole depressions and so the council

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should know that as a part of the

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emergency declaration process we do have

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a 72-hour time frame to get in a

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preliminary damage assessment we have

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completed that both for the storm that

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hit on New Year's Eve and this storm

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that occurred just a few days ago and so

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know that those preliminary damage

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assessments have been done however a few

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of the

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um

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impacts from the storm uh will be long

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term and we will need to identify a

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permanent fix for them and we'll go

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through a few pictures right now and

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certainly there was localized Flooding

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at areas in San Bruno that are common uh

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and and prone to flooding I think we all

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in the community know that San Bruno has

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a deficient storm water system we have a

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storm water system that we know is over

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100 years old and the city did a study

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in 2017 and there was more than 50

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million dollars of known improvements uh

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and and we will are and will continue to

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work on providing more funding for our

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storm water system uh certainly this

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flood surge was record levels of water

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but as we'll see in some of these next

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pictures some of the more concerning

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issues are are the landslides and so

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we've had a number of locations where

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there's been landslides and we've had

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our geotechnical Engineers out to assess

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these areas sometimes they're behind

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homes other times they're on areas that

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you can visibly see for example driving

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San Bruno Avenue but but know that your

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staff has not only taken temporary

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measures to visqueen or put plastic to

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cover a number of the slides but we've

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also had geotechnical Engineers out and

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I hiked many of these areas yesterday

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with our staff

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but of most concern or let me talk about

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trees as we know high winds that we

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continue to experience we had a number

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of tree failures many people in the

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community did not experience closed

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roads and that's really because of the

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wonderful work of our Public Works staff

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and our fire department that were out

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there immediately as a tree fell and

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removed it from the roadway but we had

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trees that fell all throughout the

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community due to the high wind taking

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out power power lines but a most concern

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are two sinkholes one in the

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uh Northern parking lot of Church of the

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Highlands that is actually a city storm

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drain that's the picture in the middle

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that is a temporary fix that our

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consultant uh or one of our emergency

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contractors was able to put in place

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it's a 54 and storm dream Culvert that

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collapsed and created a sinkhole there

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has been a temporary fix and there's

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currently three metal grates covering

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that fix but we do expect this to be a

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very large and likely very expensive fix

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and if you go there now you can hear the

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water gushing we cannot fix it in the

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middle of the storm season but we do

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believe that this temporary fix will hold but there is a large section

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of the pipe that is depressed and has

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created a sinkhole and so that area is

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currently off limits in addition near

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city park at Cypress and Crystal Springs

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there was a sinkhole that developed

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under the sidewalk uh happy to announce

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that that a permanent fix has already

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been installed for that our contractor

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worked throughout the night until five

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o'clock in the morning one day just to

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fix that when we had a break in between

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the storms we have not yet repaired the

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concrete of course due to the due to the

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Rain

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next steps we will we are in the early

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phase as I mentioned of our assessment

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process we will continue to prepare for

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these storms that are coming thankfully

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they appear to be less in severity than

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what we've experienced we will complete

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our damage assessments provide that

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information to the council and later on

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your agenda tonight is the ratification

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to continue the emergency the existence

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of the local emergency and we anticipate

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continuing with that local emergency

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and asking the council to Sunset that

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emergency at the next council meeting we

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still would like to con continue with

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the activation of our ELC as we continue

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to assess and then experience continued

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precipitation make sure that we're able

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to respond and respond appropriately

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thank you happy to take any questions

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thank you very much before I asked my

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colleagues for any questions I do want

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to thank the county

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for their efforts

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opening up the Event Center getting Red

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Cross there established but also just

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the county and the Dem having the calls

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to the emergency services Council in

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addition to staff so what I want to say

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is some of these calls are at 9am 1 30

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p.m 4 P.M uh and I was on those and was

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even at a celebration of life Sunday and

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there are staff is on it as I am and so

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I want to thank the staff because I was

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always assured San Bruno was well

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represented and was there taking care of

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things and I appreciate that and that's

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where everybody from the county is

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telling each other what their status is

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what what what's happening and so it's

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again the county having a collective

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effort and this was a great mechanism

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that was learned from from covid

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and I want to thank staff because we

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know from our uh public works department

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Community Services Department police

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fire it's a lot and a lot came on New

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Year's Eve and and into the new year

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and I know for the whole County staff I

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know I had a meeting on uh

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ALS jpa and here we were at 10 A.M in

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Brisbane manager who runs that was

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saying the whole town is out the whole

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city is out uh Burlingame was operating

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on a generator at the city hall so it's

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really been daunting for folks so really

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kudos to everybody in the county and

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kudos to the city of San Bruno who I

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felt very

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comfortable and rested well somewhat but

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knowing that things were being

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represented present and knew they had

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things in hand so I'd like the city

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manager

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Mr Lee to the Chiefs to please pass it

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on to

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um and see uh

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the director

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but anyway everybody can please pass it

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on uh with that questions from

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colleagues

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if not uh right now uh through the vice

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mayor uh Hamilton

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yeah not a question just to comment and

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I won't uh Echo everything that you that

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you just said um although we all feel

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the same way

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um uh regarding the performance of our

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staff

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um police fire Community Services

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sitting at public works all the all the teams working so hard

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um uh for us through this I just wanted

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to take a second to reiterate

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um what the city manager said in the

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presentation regarding the importance of

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um of everyone to to download and

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participate in the SMC alert

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um system it really is quick and easy to

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sign up

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um and it's not a it's not one of those

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things where you sign up and then you

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regret it because you get a bunch of you

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know you get a bunch of things that

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aren't um that aren't uh important the

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stuff that comes out when you get the

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when or you know road closures and and

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you know things that are things that you

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need to know things that are important

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and it's really a it's really worth it

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and I highly highly recommend that

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everyone download it

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smclert.org thank you no other questions from

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colleagues and is there any members of

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the public that wish to comment or ask

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questions on the section

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we have one hand raised Robert Regal I will not be bringing you

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in

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I just had one question did the city

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experience any ssos during the

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end of the year first of the year

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I'm sorry

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to the mayor would you like me to take

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that um members of the public may not uh

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have heard but he I think the caller

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00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,840
said SSO sanitary sewer overflows uh yes

557
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,200
we did we experienced two sanitary sewer

558
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,559
overflows oftentimes when you have

559
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:24,720
localized flooding uh the sewer pipe

560
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,440
will fill up with storm water and then

561
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840
bubble up at some of the clean outs and

562
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,580
manholes and that's why the health

563
00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:34,320
officer in San Mateo County and we

564
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,120
always say don't walk in flood waters

565
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,580
they can be contaminated with bacteria

566
00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:41,880
so we did report to sanitary sewer

567
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,960
overflows of one of just over 5 000

568
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,659
gallons and one of if memory serves me

569
00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:51,720
around two or four hundred gallons but

570
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,659
we we will confirm that but certainly

571
00:26:54,659 --> 00:26:56,400
anytime you have localized flooding

572
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,860
especially in a neighborhood where

573
00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:01,020
there's residential sewer pipes you

574
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:05,039
oftentimes have sanitary sewer overflows

575
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,980
thank you very much no other comments

576
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:10,620
then I would ask maybe manager if you

577
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,700
don't go far

578
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:17,880
um because we'll go on to the next item B on Shoreline presentation on the

579
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,640
tide cloud gate reinplacement project

580
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,620
and if you could do the intro and sure

581
00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:25,100
uh I would like to introduce the

582
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,440
executive director of Juan Shoreline uh

583
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Lynn matherman who will provide our

584
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,299
presentation he is also here with

585
00:27:33,299 --> 00:27:35,580
supervisor Dave fine and I think we will

586
00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:38,940
have a supervisor Pine first

587
00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:41,940
thank you city manager

588
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:44,820
president uh supervisor fine well good

589
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:46,919
evening council members and staff I'm

590
00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:49,320
happy to be here tonight in my capacity

591
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,200
as the chair of one Shoreline which is

592
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,299
the San Mateo County flood and sea level

593
00:27:54,299 --> 00:27:56,880
rise resiliency District I'm really

594
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,140
pleased to have the opportunity to talk

595
00:27:58,140 --> 00:27:59,880
about one Shoreline and how we're

596
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,380
working in San Bruno to address flooding

597
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:06,000
concerns so one Shoreline was

598
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,779
established in 2020 with really three

599
00:28:08,779 --> 00:28:11,700
objectives one was to approach these

600
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,760
problems in a multi-jurisdictional way

601
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,559
um second was the really to build staff

602
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,440
expertise and third was to be able to

603
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,360
compete effectively for

604
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,000
funding to to attack these problems and

605
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,740
we've made good Headway on those on

606
00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,020
those goals we recently completed a

607
00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:30,419
project in Redwood City called The Bay

608
00:28:30,419 --> 00:28:32,700
Front Canal which had really languished

609
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,740
for many many decades because it's hard

610
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:36,419
for the cities to come together

611
00:28:36,419 --> 00:28:38,220
in terms of expertise we have a small

612
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:39,960
and mighty staff it's only four people

613
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,580
but they wake up every day thinking

614
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:43,860
about flooding and a small team can go a

615
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:46,080
long way and we've had some success in

616
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,419
procuring funds we recently received

617
00:28:48,419 --> 00:28:49,860
eight million dollars to work on a

618
00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:52,799
project in Burlingame Millbrae but

619
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,840
tonight's discussion is of course

620
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,779
focused on on San Bruno so when matter

621
00:28:57,779 --> 00:28:59,940
men will give the presentation talk a

622
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,100
little bit about one Shoreline but then

623
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,740
spend time on some of the immediate

624
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:07,620
actions that we've we've taken here to

625
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:09,179
try to alleviate flooding in the in the

626
00:29:09,179 --> 00:29:11,279
Bel Air neighborhood we're concerning

627
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,799
the tide Gates and the pump stations and

628
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,960
then turn our attention to you know what

629
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,940
are the longer term solutions for

630
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:19,440
flooding in Bel Air where we're

631
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,179
recognizant of the fact that the Bel Air

632
00:29:21,179 --> 00:29:23,460
neighborhood is in a FEMA flood zone and

633
00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:25,620
that's very difficult for the residents

634
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,020
to have to pay those extra charges

635
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:30,720
so with that let me introduce so Ann

636
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:40,730
matterman the CEO of one Shoreline

637
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,059
good evening thank you for being here

638
00:29:42,059 --> 00:29:44,279
yeah it's good to see you again Mr Mayor

639
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,059
and uh good to see you council members

640
00:29:47,059 --> 00:29:50,880
thank you chair Pine for kicking us off

641
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,820
uh I wanted to also thank the city

642
00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:55,740
representative from this part of the

643
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:58,380
county we have seven board members five

644
00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:00,539
of which are from cities and the city

645
00:30:00,539 --> 00:30:02,760
representative from the North Bay Side

646
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,880
is Donna Coulson from Burlingame and so

647
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,559
she also represents the interests of

648
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:09,899
this area and she's a contact for for

649
00:30:09,899 --> 00:30:13,559
you as well as supervisor Pine also

650
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,360
wanted to acknowledge and thank McKenna

651
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,460
Wong who's sitting two rows behind Dave

652
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,740
Pine she's our project manager that

653
00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:21,480
focuses in on San Bruno and has worked

654
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,720
extensively with City staff on what

655
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,659
we're about to talk about today

656
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:30,179
and and then finally acknowledge the

657
00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:33,000
substantial efforts of Matt Lee and

658
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Dennis Bosch here at the city who are

659
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,919
partners with us as well as city manager

660
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,799
Rogan and his staff

661
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,419
who we've been working with quite a bit

662
00:30:42,419 --> 00:30:45,659
lately so I'll Advance this slide there

663
00:30:45,659 --> 00:30:47,940
we go okay so that's the introductory

664
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:49,320
slide

665
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,310
and

666
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,500
so if I just I'm trying to press to

667
00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:02,330
advance

668
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:03,539
um

669
00:31:03,539 --> 00:31:04,740
this is

670
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:09,179
okay all right great so the pictures

671
00:31:09,179 --> 00:31:11,399
that you see above the three on the left

672
00:31:11,399 --> 00:31:14,460
are from San Bruno in 2021 people

673
00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:16,080
remember that on October of that year

674
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,020
there was a very substantial event that

675
00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:20,520
resulted in flooding to the Bel Air

676
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,860
neighborhood the picture at the right is

677
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:26,760
from the Pacific coast side and at one

678
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,980
Shoreline we are thinking about the

679
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:30,779
whole County including what's on the bay

680
00:31:30,779 --> 00:31:33,360
side and the coast side in terms of the

681
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,140
water related impacts of climate change

682
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:42,120
oh there we go so the county had a

683
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,179
long-standing flood control district but

684
00:31:45,179 --> 00:31:47,760
it only covered a small percentage of

685
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,100
the actual area in the county in terms

686
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,020
of generating Revenue to work on these

687
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:54,899
issues and actually projects in those

688
00:31:54,899 --> 00:31:57,840
areas and on the Bayside it was a very

689
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
small percentage as well in the range of

690
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,919
about 10 percent and there was no

691
00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:05,700
activity on the coast side given the uh

692
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,080
the substantial and in some ways unique

693
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,899
vulnerability of San Mateo County to

694
00:32:11,899 --> 00:32:14,039
climate change and the water related

695
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,500
impacts it was felt that this Flood

696
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,679
Control District was inadequate to

697
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:24,539
address the issue and so in in 2019

698
00:32:24,539 --> 00:32:26,539
there was State legislation

699
00:32:26,539 --> 00:32:29,279
signed by the governor Newsom and it

700
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,320
established the San Mateo County flood

701
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,880
and sea level rise resiliency District

702
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,039
also known as one Shoreline as of

703
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,640
January 1 of 2020 and and we work on the

704
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
multiple issues associated with water

705
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,919
and climate including flooding and sea

706
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:45,779
level rise Coastal erosion as I

707
00:32:45,779 --> 00:32:48,179
mentioned Regional storm water efforts

708
00:32:48,179 --> 00:32:52,020
water retention and as part of the we we

709
00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:54,179
look at Recreation opportunities for

710
00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:55,500
recreational enhancement and

711
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,200
environmental enhancement we take a

712
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
holistic approach to to the threats

713
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,000
looking at all these different threats

714
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,799
and not just kind of a traditional flood

715
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,320
control approach holistic of you to

716
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,159
geography as supervisor Pine mentioned

717
00:33:11,159 --> 00:33:14,039
we work multi-jurisdictionally and

718
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,500
throughout the county because of course

719
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:20,700
this issue of of climate does not in any

720
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:22,559
way respect jurisdictional boundaries

721
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,740
and no City can do it alone and then we

722
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:28,159
take a holistic view of objectives

723
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:31,559
we think about how to incorporate not

724
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,140
just governmental work but also with our

725
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:35,940
partners in the private sector and

726
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:37,620
community-based organization is bring

727
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,899
them into the fold and a holistic view

728
00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:42,419
of the disciplines where climate is not

729
00:33:42,419 --> 00:33:44,700
just a water issue or a wildfire issue

730
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:46,799
it's also a housing issue or a land use

731
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,720
issue or a transportation issue or a

732
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,059
utilities issue all of these things are

733
00:33:51,059 --> 00:33:52,919
affected now and will be affected more

734
00:33:52,919 --> 00:33:55,500
so in the future by the effects of

735
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,919
climate change

736
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:01,620
in terms of our activities this is our

737
00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:03,360
last slide on one Shoreline but it

738
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,419
summarizes what we've been up to in 2020

739
00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,839
2021 and 2022 setting up the new agency

740
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,179
as supervisor Prime mentioned we

741
00:34:12,179 --> 00:34:13,440
completed a 10 million dollar

742
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,740
construction project down along the Bay

743
00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:19,639
Side of Redwood City and Menlo Park

744
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,599
we've developed new multiple

745
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,280
jurisdiction jurisdictional projects

746
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,980
including the one that was mentioned in

747
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,560
Berlin Cayman Millbrae we've developed

748
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,240
the first of its kind in the Bay Area

749
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,520
zoning ordinance to address future

750
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,139
climate conditions for the city of

751
00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:35,520
Burlingame and we're working with other

752
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,960
cities on their various General planned

753
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,060
documents specific plans and zoning

754
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:45,240
ordinances we would be very happy to

755
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:46,919
work with San Bruno on those types of

756
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:51,899
documents and and we've raised funds

757
00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:53,220
we've spent about three and a half

758
00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:54,960
million dollars just under that and

759
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,820
we've brought in almost 20 million

760
00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,859
dollars so far so I think it's a good

761
00:34:58,859 --> 00:35:02,099
return on investment to this point

762
00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:02,700
um

763
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,619
if we look at the bay side and we look

764
00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:10,980
where work is being done to address the County's unique vulnerability to sea

765
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,560
level rise in California there are areas

766
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,079
of the county that have work that is in

767
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,119
planning design or construction and

768
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,579
those are the areas in green of our 53

769
00:35:20,579 --> 00:35:22,800
miles of County Shoreline there are also

770
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,720
substantial areas in red that don't yet

771
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,940
have those types of activities underway

772
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:29,820
in any coordinated way and those are the

773
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,619
areas in red and so we have a bay

774
00:35:31,619 --> 00:35:34,320
program at one Shoreline to align and

775
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,200
connect all of the shoreline on the bay

776
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,310
side of this County

777
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,660
um we we work over the next 18 months

778
00:35:42,660 --> 00:35:44,760
we're going to be doing a lot of work on

779
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,619
those planning documents

780
00:35:46,619 --> 00:35:48,000
um because that's I think going to be

781
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,440
our Legacy is what are these communities

782
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,180
look like so that we don't have to

783
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:53,339
retrofit them in the future for things

784
00:35:53,339 --> 00:35:55,680
that we know are coming like The New

785
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,140
Normal over every winter of drought and

786
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:00,960
Atmospheric River if anybody thinks that

787
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,079
this is a once in a lifetime event

788
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,300
um I would submit that they're probably

789
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,520
mistaken is that what we saw in 2021

790
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,040
what we've seen now in 2022 is what

791
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,260
we're going to see more or less in

792
00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:15,420
Winters to come and we need to be

793
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,280
thinking now about that in terms of how

794
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,380
and where we develop and what what that

795
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:21,000
looks like are we are we positioning

796
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
ourselves to be able to become resilient

797
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,720
to these types of events also

798
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,440
multi-jurisdictional projects it's not

799
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,240
just Burlingame and Millbrae what we're

800
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,339
doing on San Bruno Creek is also a

801
00:36:32,339 --> 00:36:33,900
multi-jurisdictional project as I'll

802
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:36,960
mention and these other items

803
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,820
okay so um so looking at San Bruno Creek

804
00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:43,380
as was mentioned uh there was a

805
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:45,540
long-standing flood control district

806
00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:48,660
that had flood zones in 2020 when when

807
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:51,720
Shoreline was established We inherited a

808
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,119
decades-old flood zone uh four of them

809
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:55,800
actually and the two that you see here

810
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,780
for Coloma Creek Watershed and the San

811
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:00,060
Bruno Creek is a flood zone the San

812
00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:02,280
Bruno Creek flood zone collects property

813
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,440
taxes from residents within the city as

814
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,240
well as a small sliver of the Coloma

815
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,579
Creek Watershed specific to the San

816
00:37:08,579 --> 00:37:10,140
Bruno Creek flood zone it generates

817
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,500
about 350 thousand dollars annually this

818
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,480
year we've been very active working with

819
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,940
the city and the county on on Creek

820
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:19,920
related issues that I'll describe we'll

821
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,660
be spending about eight hundred thousand

822
00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:23,700
dollars this year and at the end of this

823
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:25,680
fiscal year we anticipate having a

824
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,880
reserve of about 2.3 million dollars on

825
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,180
the right now you can see coming up the

826
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,480
current FEMA flood map for the city of

827
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,859
San Bruno

828
00:37:37,859 --> 00:37:40,200
um and the area in that's circled in

829
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,079
pink let's say is the area of San Bruno

830
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,599
that's within the FEMA flood map in in

831
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,420
those in that area of the city uh if if

832
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:50,400
a property owner has a federally backed

833
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,660
mortgage then they're required to

834
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:53,579
purchase flood insurance

835
00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:54,900
um and this was a big topic of

836
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,339
discussion uh in 2017 2018

837
00:37:58,339 --> 00:38:01,140
and the maps became the FEMA Maps became

838
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,900
effective in 2019 there are multiple

839
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,440
reasons that the Bel Air area of the

840
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,540
neighborhood an area of San Bruno is

841
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:12,060
within the FEMA flood map those are five

842
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:13,920
reasons that are listed there that

843
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,260
includes uh according to the modeled

844
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:19,200
reasons water coming from navigable

845
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,240
Slough down Shaw Road from South San

846
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,880
Francisco water I'm kind of going in a

847
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,480
circular way clockwise water coming up

848
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,880
the creek in San Bruno Creek the

849
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,460
backflow effects from a tight gate water

850
00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,260
just coming from San Francisco Airport

851
00:38:34,260 --> 00:38:37,440
into the city of San Bruno and South of

852
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,119
the airport there's a high line Canal

853
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,820
which is quite far from that area but

854
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:43,920
according to the models water that comes

855
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,599
up Highline Canal which separates

856
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,180
Millbrae and SFO would make its way into

857
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,460
San Bruno and then finally the Cupid's

858
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:52,140
row Canal whether there's enough

859
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:54,720
capacity there so we have to work on all

860
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,700
five issues if we want to get people out

861
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:00,950
of this FEMA flood map

862
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,599
taking a little closer view at the Bel

863
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,420
Air neighborhood it's located along

864
00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:10,140
Highway 101 and Highway 380 and about

865
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:12,359
the first The Last Mile sorry of the

866
00:39:12,359 --> 00:39:15,119
creek as it drains into the bay and in

867
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:16,880
that stretch it's very complex

868
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
jurisdictionally and technically where

869
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,780
you have the city of course the city of

870
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,480
San Bruno jurisdiction you have also

871
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,820
County unincorporated area San Francisco

872
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:29,300
International Airport ownership of land

873
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,040
Caltrans

874
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,200
right-of-way underneath 380 and Highway

875
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,260
101 and then as it drains to the Bay the

876
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:38,960
city of South San Francisco

877
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,900
is is the jurisdiction of that area and

878
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,000
we own the tide gate at one Shoreline

879
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,820
and we also have land rights where it

880
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,300
says the Walnut Pump Station

881
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:53,160
that that section North of San Bruno

882
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Avenue

883
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,339
um as we as we look at uh as the work

884
00:39:59,339 --> 00:40:01,380
um that there's been a lot of work uh

885
00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:03,240
over the last 10 years a lot of

886
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,280
attention paid to this area here are

887
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,260
seven different Studies by different

888
00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:10,560
agencies that have looked at this issue

889
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
and our job at one Shoreline as kind of

890
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,260
a regional body as I said that thinks

891
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:18,720
holistically is to pull together these

892
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,300
studies in a cogent way that makes sense

893
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:23,700
where we have one solution one big

894
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,220
solution that takes into account the the

895
00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:28,260
data that has been gathered by multiple

896
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:31,260
agencies because this is a system in all

897
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:33,420
aspects of the system uh relate to one

898
00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:35,339
another so that's what we're trying to

899
00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:38,579
do if we look at the work that was done

900
00:40:38,579 --> 00:40:41,339
uh the near-term work that was done to

901
00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:42,599
reduce flooding in the Bel Air

902
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:46,079
neighborhood there was work done by by

903
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,119
one Shoreline that we worked with the

904
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,940
county and and City staff and the staff

905
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:53,700
that's in supervisor Pines office to

906
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,040
repair the tide guide this is the title

907
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
of our agenda item here and these two

908
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680
pictures show a before and after of the

909
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:08,160
tide gate the picture at the top has the flap gate a jar and uh and three of

910
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,560
the four flap Gates were um were

911
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,619
detached and so water would flow freely

912
00:41:13,619 --> 00:41:15,960
in from the bay and this was uh

913
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,300
something that occurred or they became

914
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,119
attached in the fall of 2021 and

915
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,160
undoubtedly that affected the flooding

916
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,220
that happened in October 2021. we fixed

917
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,800
those earlier this spring I mean

918
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,359
actually not the spring but the spring

919
00:41:30,359 --> 00:41:34,680
of 2022 after uh the this circumstance

920
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,980
was identified and and we all discussed

921
00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:39,420
why we think that made a big difference

922
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:42,780
in the storms of of the past 10 days or

923
00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:45,720
so another near-term activity that we've

924
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,220
been working on is to repair and replace

925
00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:52,440
and provide backup electricity for the

926
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,300
motors and the Walnut and Angus Pump

927
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,640
Station these are immediately adjacent

928
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,339
to the Bel Air neighborhood and are very

929
00:41:59,339 --> 00:42:01,800
important resources to drain the water

930
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,359
that's collected on the streets of Bel

931
00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:06,420
Air and pump it into San Bruno Creek so

932
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:07,800
that it can efficiently efficiently

933
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,440
float uh make its way to the to the bay

934
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,540
and then finally we're working with

935
00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:14,160
Caltrans which as I mentioned has

936
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960
right-of-way under Highway 380 and

937
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,560
Highway 101 to put a valve on their

938
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,140
outfall to reduce the water that backs

939
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:25,200
up from the creek in into the outfall

940
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,180
and then onto the Caltrans property

941
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:32,820
under 380 and then on to 7th Avenue and that whole cycle or movement of

942
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:35,160
water also exacerbates the flooding

943
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,700
there so how do we how do we know that

944
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:40,980
or think that the tide gate made a

945
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,180
difference

946
00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:45,020
the work on the tight gate late

947
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:48,780
earlier this year so the repair project

948
00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:50,760
We Believe has made a difference if you

949
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,940
look at the images on the left these are

950
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,780
images from dry days sunny days and it's

951
00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:01,619
from January 3rd of 2022. the video is

952
00:43:01,619 --> 00:43:03,839
driving along 7th Avenue heading towards

953
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:08,819
the city of South San Francisco and the still images are just pictures from

954
00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:10,619
that day as well there's a lot of water

955
00:43:10,619 --> 00:43:15,000
at 7th Avenue at the PG e site and then

956
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,339
of course heading under Highway 380. you

957
00:43:17,339 --> 00:43:18,660
can see all that water

958
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:20,880
so that was in January and then at the

959
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,099
end of 2022 after the tide gate project

960
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:25,579
was done this is also during High Tides

961
00:43:25,579 --> 00:43:28,500
you see basically no water in that same

962
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,420
area and

963
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:32,760
um and so we believe it's made it quite

964
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,560
a big big difference

965
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,780
um now when it rains and you have these

966
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,000
storms there's kind of a more much more

967
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,880
complicated mix of of fresh water and

968
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,220
tidal water and so that's one of the

969
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:46,140
things that excuse me we would be

970
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:48,480
studying uh in in the work that's

971
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,829
upcoming

972
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:53,640
so we have a set of rain gauges

973
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,980
throughout the county this was mentioned

974
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:58,859
earlier in Mr grogan's presentation we

975
00:43:58,859 --> 00:44:01,800
have a set of of gauges of rain and a

976
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200
creek height the water that's in Creeks

977
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,420
during storms and we look at those

978
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:07,520
gauges

979
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,400
during these storms any time of day 24

980
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160
hours a day and depending on the

981
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,500
circumstance of both the water in the

982
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,480
channel and the rain that's coming

983
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,319
towards the channel we send out alerts

984
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:25,740
and the alerts go to City staff and the

985
00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:28,260
alerts now in two watersheds including

986
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:30,900
San Bruno Creek go to the public through

987
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,599
SMC alert so I would Echo the comments

988
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:36,240
of Mr Grogan and your vice mayor about

989
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,460
the importance of SMC alert especially

990
00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:41,280
if you live or work near the Bel Air

991
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,140
neighborhood because that's where we've

992
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:45,660
developed a what's called a polygon of

993
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:47,579
the map where we will send out SMC

994
00:44:47,579 --> 00:44:50,339
alerts if it looks like San Bruno Creek

995
00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:51,839
will over top or there will be

996
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:53,880
substantial flooding within that

997
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,790
neighborhood

998
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,920
it's kind of slow to come up so here are

999
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,440
what's called hydrographs of of the

1000
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,560
creek events of October 24 2021 and

1001
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,980
December 31 2022.

1002
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:14,160
um essentially we watch those things and

1003
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,839
worry about these things no matter what

1004
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,420
time of day we're looking at it so that

1005
00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:21,060
you don't have to and we will rock we

1006
00:45:21,060 --> 00:45:22,859
watched these things and establish okay

1007
00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:25,140
is there a peak flow going on and do we

1008
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:27,480
send out a message but if you compare

1009
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,780
those two storms in October 2021 there

1010
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:33,900
was more rain than in December of 20

1011
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,800
December 31 of 2022 but December 31 of

1012
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,140
2022 that storm had a higher peak of

1013
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:42,560
water within the creek Channel

1014
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,020
and at the same time it caused less a

1015
00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:47,220
little bit less flooding apparently

1016
00:45:47,220 --> 00:45:48,839
based on the information that we have

1017
00:45:48,839 --> 00:45:50,700
and I want to just pause there one

1018
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,579
second and encourage people if they have

1019
00:45:53,579 --> 00:45:56,339
pictures or videos from their property

1020
00:45:56,339 --> 00:45:58,079
or if they're in the neighborhood and

1021
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,940
they're seeing flooding feel free to

1022
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:01,740
send it to us at one Shoreline because

1023
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:05,099
as we calibrate our flood alert system

1024
00:46:05,099 --> 00:46:08,579
and as we think about uh projects in the

1025
00:46:08,579 --> 00:46:10,260
future it's very helpful for us to

1026
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:11,940
understand where flooding occurred and

1027
00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:13,220
at what time

1028
00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:16,380
as we as we kind of develop those or

1029
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:20,400
refine those products and so we we

1030
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,500
believe that that that flooding was

1031
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,839
reduced due to two things one is the

1032
00:46:24,839 --> 00:46:27,720
pump stations were fully functioning in

1033
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:31,200
December of 31 of 2022 storm all the

1034
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,940
pumps were online there was electrical

1035
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:34,680
generator backup all the things that I

1036
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,940
mentioned that we have been working on

1037
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:39,720
through 2022 as well as the tide had

1038
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,520
less influence because the tide Gates

1039
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,900
were were operable fully operable

1040
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,839
okay last slide long-term Solutions this

1041
00:46:48,839 --> 00:46:51,780
is super important so

1042
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:54,119
all of everything I just said is about

1043
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:56,579
the near-term how do we deal with the

1044
00:46:56,579 --> 00:46:57,960
flooding today to the best of our

1045
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,060
Collective ability

1046
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:01,619
that is not going to get people out of

1047
00:47:01,619 --> 00:47:03,540
the flood insurance program and it's not

1048
00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:06,839
going to address these issues long term we need to look at those five

1049
00:47:06,839 --> 00:47:09,720
sources of flooding and and think about

1050
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,359
the FEMA maps and think about sea level

1051
00:47:12,359 --> 00:47:14,460
rise and how that is going to further

1052
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:16,619
influence what we were seeing in the

1053
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:20,400
slide with the video of the drive from

1054
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,060
the car on 7th Avenue and so for the

1055
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:27,000
long-term solution we're embarking on a

1056
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,300
project we will get it started in 2023

1057
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,140
regardless of what the federal

1058
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:32,819
government says to us about our Grant

1059
00:47:32,819 --> 00:47:34,319
application we applied for nine hundred

1060
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,240
thousand dollars we had the support of

1061
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,300
San Bruno South San Francisco and others

1062
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:41,640
on that application so we're hopeful but

1063
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,500
regardless we will get started on the

1064
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,480
project and potential aspects of the

1065
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520
project are a complete replacement of

1066
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,380
the tide gate the repair that we made

1067
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:52,200
was to a facility that was established

1068
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,460
or built in the 1940s it is it is now

1069
00:47:56,460 --> 00:47:58,500
repaired it is working much better than

1070
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,839
it was 15 months ago but it's is not a

1071
00:48:00,839 --> 00:48:02,940
long-term solution for this area so

1072
00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:04,440
replacing the tide gate is important

1073
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,359
potentially building a new pump station

1074
00:48:06,359 --> 00:48:08,720
at the tide gate to get water

1075
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,760
over the tide gate from the creek into

1076
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,119
the bay another another idea is to

1077
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,099
replace these pump stations that right

1078
00:48:17,099 --> 00:48:18,900
now we're constantly trying to repair

1079
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,720
those pump stations were built in the

1080
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,839
1960s and they are not up to the task of

1081
00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:27,900
these atmospheric Rivers another project

1082
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,119
idea is to elevate the bay shoreline

1083
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:33,079
between San Bruno Creek and Colma Creek

1084
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,460
and because it's all kind of connected

1085
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:37,440
with the sea level rise issue and then

1086
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,619
finally to build one or more stormwater

1087
00:48:40,619 --> 00:48:42,540
detention basins adjacent to the creek

1088
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:44,700
whether that's far Upstream near Highway

1089
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,280
280 perhaps in the park right here at

1090
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920
this right next to where we're talking

1091
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,319
right now or farther much farther

1092
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,040
Downstream as San Bruno Creek goes along

1093
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,720
the Bel Air neighborhood so these are

1094
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,640
some of the project ideas that we're

1095
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160
going to get started on doing some

1096
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,000
planning and project alternative

1097
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,819
analysis with consultants in the next 12

1098
00:49:08,819 --> 00:49:10,020
months

1099
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:12,560
and that concludes the presentation

1100
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,780
I and McKenna and supervisor Pine would

1101
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:20,180
be glad to answer questions thank you very much for that information

1102
00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:22,619
I think it's extremely helpful and I

1103
00:49:22,619 --> 00:49:24,119
don't know that as we've talked before

1104
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:26,339
and I appreciate your time that folks

1105
00:49:26,339 --> 00:49:28,260
know those things that are occurring and

1106
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:30,060
have occurred and so thank you for that

1107
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:32,099
with that I'd like to ask my colleagues

1108
00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:33,359
if there are any questions that they

1109
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:38,930
have at this time

1110
00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:41,160
yep yes uh

1111
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,260
sorry to get used to this first welcome

1112
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:46,440
again happy New Year and may I please uh

1113
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,020
call upon council member Alvarez

1114
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:51,540
thank you for your um very informative

1115
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:53,880
presentation

1116
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,460
um just reading on your website um and

1117
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:59,280
you also mentioned that you have

1118
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,599
identified three solutions which are

1119
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,720
um replacing the pump station I know

1120
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,160
that we have had

1121
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
um problems whenever we have heavy rains

1122
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,660
like this along 7th Avenue which was

1123
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:20,040
built in the 1960s on that that bump

1124
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,040
station when do you anticipate to start

1125
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,400
the project that you identified

1126
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,460
yeah uh thank you for that question

1127
00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:33,950
um so I guess what I would say is

1128
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,599
the project would start with

1129
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:38,940
understanding what those seven other

1130
00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:41,760
studies said and and pulling them

1131
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,480
together into a cohesive plan okay and

1132
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,940
so the project starts with planning and

1133
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:49,980
collecting data so that we fully

1134
00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:52,619
understand the interaction between the

1135
00:50:52,619 --> 00:50:53,520
creek

1136
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,920
the storm drain system for that

1137
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,980
neighborhood the tides and water that's

1138
00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:01,079
coming in potentially from South San

1139
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:03,540
Francisco and also from Millbrae if in

1140
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,280
fact it is so we need to understand what

1141
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,599
we're looking at and that's what we

1142
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:10,079
would start in 2023 is to get gain that

1143
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,880
understanding and and using those

1144
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,099
previous studies as as an important

1145
00:51:14,099 --> 00:51:15,599
Baseline

1146
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:19,440
and then we would start a process of a

1147
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,680
SQL document so that we we make public

1148
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,619
Alternatives and get feedback from the

1149
00:51:25,619 --> 00:51:27,480
public and from regulatory environmental

1150
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,579
Regulatory Agencies to understand okay

1151
00:51:29,579 --> 00:51:31,319
what is a preferred project that we can

1152
00:51:31,319 --> 00:51:33,000
actually move forward on at the same

1153
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,680
time we're doing a SQL document and

1154
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,140
doing we would do design of a preferred

1155
00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:39,180
project and the SQL document and the

1156
00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:41,000
design process would go hand in hand

1157
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,460
that would take a couple years and

1158
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:48,119
during that time we would seek outside

1159
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:50,819
funding one of the reasons one Shoreline

1160
00:51:50,819 --> 00:51:54,180
was created established in 2020 as

1161
00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:57,000
supervisor Pine mentioned is to be able

1162
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,099
to attract external funding in a way

1163
00:51:59,099 --> 00:52:01,140
that maybe we otherwise couldn't because

1164
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:03,900
we're working together as cities and one

1165
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,660
Shoreline in the county and so during

1166
00:52:06,660 --> 00:52:09,720
that process of of sequin design we try

1167
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,359
to attract especially Federal money and

1168
00:52:12,359 --> 00:52:15,000
with all of these storms there is news

1169
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,160
federal faster declarations which means

1170
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,480
there's new money for these kinds of

1171
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,000
projects so so I can't give a specific

1172
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,300
timeline all I can say is commit to is

1173
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:25,500
that we're going to start on that

1174
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:30,349
process this year

1175
00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:33,480
any other questions from colleagues I'm

1176
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,059
sorry I apologize

1177
00:52:35,059 --> 00:52:37,680
I was looking straight ahead city

1178
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,359
manager sure

1179
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:41,579
thank you mayor I just want to also say

1180
00:52:41,579 --> 00:52:43,260
that we've talked to one Shoreline and

1181
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:44,819
one of the commitments that we have

1182
00:52:44,819 --> 00:52:47,760
together is that we'd like to hold a

1183
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,740
neighborhood meeting specifically on

1184
00:52:49,740 --> 00:52:51,660
this issue a lot of things were

1185
00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:53,520
discussed tonight and a lot of work is

1186
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
going on for a permanent fix but we know

1187
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,559
not everyone in that Community knows

1188
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,319
about that as well as

1189
00:53:01,319 --> 00:53:04,380
people's property is being flooded in I

1190
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:05,640
was out there in the middle of a storm

1191
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,240
and I think having a meeting partic

1192
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:10,980
specifically on this topic is

1193
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:12,300
appropriate and we've talked to one

1194
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:14,099
Shoreline about that and we will be

1195
00:53:14,099 --> 00:53:16,920
partnering to hold a meeting in San

1196
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,040
Bruno specifically with our community

1197
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,960
that's affected by this flooding both to

1198
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,400
let them know of the work that's going

1199
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,400
on as well as to seek their ideas and so

1200
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,740
know that that will happen in you and

1201
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:30,300
the community will see information about

1202
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,460
scheduling of that meeting as soon as we

1203
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:33,660
can get it together

1204
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:36,180
thank you for uh alerting us and and the

1205
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:37,980
community to that and of course

1206
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:41,160
um having available for uh languages as

1207
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,200
well uh would be thank you

1208
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,579
um and I think it's important to realize

1209
00:53:44,579 --> 00:53:46,740
too with the flood in FEMA the city

1210
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:49,079
really also went to bat and in the

1211
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:50,579
appeal process and really worked

1212
00:53:50,579 --> 00:53:52,859
diligently Jimmy Tan was here then and

1213
00:53:52,859 --> 00:53:56,280
the city staff to try to mitigate and uh

1214
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160
shall we say shrink the size of who is

1215
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,900
required was mandated to have the flood

1216
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,000
insurance so I do want to recall and

1217
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,980
remind the community and staff work

1218
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:07,800
extremely hard but as we know trying to

1219
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,859
deal with the federal government uh what

1220
00:54:10,859 --> 00:54:12,119
we think is right and what they think

1221
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:14,700
are right might be I do not have any I

1222
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,680
do not have any in-person speaker cards

1223
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,500
but we do have one remote hand raised

1224
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,359
Robert Regal

1225
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:23,640
I will be bringing you in

1226
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,760
whenever you're ready you may begin

1227
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,980
I just have one one question is there

1228
00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:31,680
any need in this scheduling of

1229
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,099
activities to dredge San Bruno Creek all

1230
00:54:35,099 --> 00:54:38,040
the way from the Thai Gates back to San

1231
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,859
Antonio Huntington area to increase the

1232
00:54:40,859 --> 00:54:44,280
capacity that the creek could hold uh

1233
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,549
when the there's excess water

1234
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:53,160
so would you like me to yes sir okay

1235
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,500
um that's a great question that we have

1236
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:57,720
we are looking at right now

1237
00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:58,859
um

1238
00:54:58,859 --> 00:55:03,300
the the actual channel of the creek uh

1239
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,880
seems to be able to hold the water

1240
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,000
that's in the channel from

1241
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,640
the the just say just Downstream the

1242
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,839
Cupid's row area to uh to the highway

1243
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:19,500
380. but part of our analysis that I

1244
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,780
mentioned to councilwoman Alvarez what

1245
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,040
would be

1246
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,200
is that is the capacity of the channel

1247
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,260
sufficient we know that Upstream of

1248
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:29,460
their

1249
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:32,880
um let's see near near the ball fields

1250
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,859
all the way to the train tracks by

1251
00:55:34,859 --> 00:55:36,960
Cupid's row we know that that stretch

1252
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,900
does not have sufficient capacity and

1253
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,440
there had been annual maintenance uh to

1254
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,480
remove the vegetation that obstructed

1255
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,940
the flow there uh previously

1256
00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:50,280
we also know that in 2022 that

1257
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,079
maintenance was not allowed due to

1258
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,380
environmental concerns we're definitely

1259
00:55:54,380 --> 00:55:56,700
hoping and planning that we come in

1260
00:55:56,700 --> 00:55:59,040
there in 2023 and do that vegetation

1261
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,119
removal because it should be done

1262
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:05,940
so I guess I would in summary for for Mr

1263
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,640
reichel's question I would say that that

1264
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,740
is a very astute question one that we're

1265
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:12,839
evaluating and we're looking for

1266
00:56:12,839 --> 00:56:15,420
opportunities to increase Channel

1267
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:16,980
capacity

1268
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:19,020
it's not practical to just go in there

1269
00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:21,839
and dredge the whole Channel there are

1270
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:23,940
multiple landowners as I mentioned San

1271
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,920
Francisco Airport being one Caltrans

1272
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,140
being another

1273
00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:31,200
um and there are endangered species in

1274
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,720
that stretch and Regulatory permits

1275
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,880
associated with that and so it's it's

1276
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,819
complicated but we're certainly looking

1277
00:56:38,819 --> 00:56:43,800
at whether this emergency declaration by

1278
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Mr Grogan and the county enables us to

1279
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,579
do some things that otherwise might be

1280
00:56:50,579 --> 00:56:52,500
more difficult to do so stay tuned on

1281
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,240
that one I guess

1282
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,270
thank you any other questions

1283
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,300
and thank you for bringing that up and

1284
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:02,460
being very candid which is there's a lot

1285
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,800
of owners there's a lot of bureaucracy

1286
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,480
uh and trying to get everybody on the

1287
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,760
same page but taking opportunities that

1288
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,380
unfortunately have been placed before us

1289
00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:12,540
appreciate you looking into that and

1290
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:14,040
coming up with some ideas

1291
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,839
uh with that I want to thank you very

1292
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:18,240
much for the presentation both uh both

1293
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,380
of you for being here and thank you very

1294
00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:21,119
much for your time this evening and

1295
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,160
being with us and wish you a safe

1296
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,380
travels home thank you have a good rest

1297
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:27,119
of your evening

1298
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:29,579
now we'll move on to item six consent

1299
00:57:29,579 --> 00:57:31,440
calendar all items are considered

1300
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,480
routine or implemented by an earlier

1301
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,760
Council action and may be enacted by one

1302
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,200
motion there will be no separate

1303
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,359
discussion unless requested there will

1304
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:42,960
be a single public comment period for

1305
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,599
all these items in this section unless

1306
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,579
requested by a council member for a

1307
00:57:47,579 --> 00:57:49,500
separate vote with that are there any

1308
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,500
items under consent that a colleague

1309
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:55,020
would like to pull for a separate now

1310
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:59,510
separate vote

1311
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,040
uh any colleagues wish to have an item

1312
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,859
so it can have discussion and or

1313
00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:09,650
um a question

1314
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,640
council member

1315
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,870
yes please go ahead

1316
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,579
thank you Mr Mayor

1317
00:58:17,579 --> 00:58:19,380
which item

1318
00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:22,079
line item F okay thanks for

1319
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,780
clarification sure all right so I have f

1320
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:28,619
is there any other items

1321
00:58:28,619 --> 00:58:31,619
seen hearing none okay let's move on to

1322
00:58:31,619 --> 00:58:34,079
item F adopt a resolution authorizing

1323
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:35,819
the city manager to execute an agreement

1324
00:58:35,819 --> 00:58:38,579
with a true north compliance Inc and the

1325
00:58:38,579 --> 00:58:41,099
amount not to exceed 285 000 and West

1326
00:58:41,099 --> 00:58:43,559
Coast code Consultants Inc in an amount

1327
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:45,599
not to exceed 450 000 to perform

1328
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,819
off-site building permit plan review

1329
00:58:47,819 --> 00:58:51,780
Services council member Alvarez

1330
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:53,640
thank you Mr Mayor

1331
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,099
I just want to point out the important

1332
00:58:56,099 --> 00:58:58,319
that it's important to understand the

1333
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:00,359
difference between plants reviewed in

1334
00:59:00,359 --> 00:59:04,020
the city hall my question is do we have

1335
00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:08,040
Consultants doing on-site plan review if

1336
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,380
so is that agreement included in the

1337
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:13,549
proposed resolution

1338
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:16,619
assistant city manager hi

1339
00:59:16,619 --> 00:59:18,780
city manager Darcy Smith

1340
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:20,819
I believe the question was about if the

1341
00:59:20,819 --> 00:59:26,690
city has on-site plan review services

1342
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:30,240
by Consultants yeah so as part of this

1343
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,920
current fiscal year budget the city

1344
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,400
council did authorize that expended

1345
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,000
expenditure for that project or but that

1346
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,440
those Services as a new item

1347
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,240
um and the city just recently executed

1348
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,799
those agreements with two different

1349
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:48,720
consulting firms and anticipates

1350
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,020
offering those services on site in the

1351
00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:53,520
coming weeks

1352
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,040
okay thank you by appointment only at

1353
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,380
City Hall and we'll be providing the

1354
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:00,480
information on our website and in an

1355
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,720
online scheduling tool too

1356
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,079
thank you last question

1357
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,520
first staff

1358
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,339
prayer staff report True North has not

1359
01:00:11,339 --> 01:00:13,799
been involved with ongoing projects

1360
01:00:13,799 --> 01:00:16,500
and therefore has Allied the current

1361
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:21,000
budget cycle and the same with the WC3

1362
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,700
for the agreement that is requested to

1363
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,980
be executed

1364
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:28,559
so it won't be outside the current

1365
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,619
budget budget cycle because a budget

1366
01:00:31,619 --> 01:00:33,119
amendment was approved by the city

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01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:36,799
council as part of the

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01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,299
quarterly budget amendment which was

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01:00:39,299 --> 01:00:42,059
approved on November 8th for the

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01:00:42,059 --> 01:00:46,079
authorization of these two consultant

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01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:49,680
agreements through separate expended

1372
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,059
term Revenue accounts that were set up

1373
01:00:51,059 --> 01:00:52,559
as part of that budget amendment which

1374
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,660
the city council reviewed and approved

1375
01:00:54,660 --> 01:00:57,119
back in November

1376
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:58,859
thank you and that's only through the

1377
01:00:58,859 --> 01:01:00,599
end of this fiscal year so only through

1378
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:02,640
June 30th of this year

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,260
for approval before the end of the

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01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:06,780
fiscal year that just as a follow-up to

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01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:08,760
that we would also do what we normally

1382
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,380
do at the end of the year is that if

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01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:12,599
there are unspent funds from a contract

1384
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:14,700
that we intend to utilize we would

1385
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:16,440
encumber those funds and roll them over

1386
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,760
to the next year that way you might see

1387
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,740
the expenditure fund of some of these

1388
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:25,020
funds in next fiscal year but know that

1389
01:01:25,020 --> 01:01:26,520
they will not be double budgeted we

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,859
would essentially capture any unspent

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01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:30,480
money and roll them forward and then

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,220
that would decrease the amount that we

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01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:36,170
request in next year's budget

1394
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:39,900
some of these questions but since the topic is on I was wondering is it

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01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:42,299
typical for us to

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01:01:42,299 --> 01:01:42,960
um

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01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,079
call out in a contract which funding

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01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,780
source we're using to to pay for it it

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01:01:48,780 --> 01:01:51,720
seemed uh like an unusually because of

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,700
the fact that we said we were pulling

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01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:55,740
from a certain fund it could put

1402
01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:57,359
contracts in Jeopardy so I'm wondering

1403
01:01:57,359 --> 01:01:59,339
is that typical I mean we never see the

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01:01:59,339 --> 01:02:01,079
contract so I I wouldn't know what's

1405
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:03,000
included in them or not but it seemed

1406
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,280
unusual to me that that piece of

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01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,740
information was part of the country is

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01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:09,359
really a result of the prior

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01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:10,920
conversations that we had with the city

1410
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,020
council if you remember what we were

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01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:16,260
doing before is we were we would do our

1412
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:18,420
normal procurement process where we

1413
01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:20,220
would get requests for that contract

1414
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:22,880
what we wanted to do was change that

1415
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,579
process and and depending on the nature

1416
01:02:26,579 --> 01:02:28,380
of the service the funding source is

1417
01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:30,660
different for example uh not the

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01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:32,160
contracts we're talking about have a

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,280
developer that is

1420
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,500
um into that one reimbursement agreement

1421
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:38,700
and so they're not getting that

1422
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:40,260
expedited service but they're getting

1423
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:42,960
that normal service however

1424
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,780
in our normal capacity we don't be paid

1425
01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:48,299
for by those normal planning fees that

1426
01:02:48,299 --> 01:02:50,520
you established each year in that RNR

1427
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,099
fee schedule and so in order so we can

1428
01:02:53,099 --> 01:02:54,660
actually where you have a developer

1429
01:02:54,660 --> 01:02:56,400
coming in and saying we will pay for

1430
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,260
expedited service we know that that will

1431
01:02:58,260 --> 01:03:00,839
cost more and more structure uh what

1432
01:03:00,839 --> 01:03:02,700
vendors we're providing what service and

1433
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:04,980
which bucket they were a funding source

1434
01:03:04,980 --> 01:03:07,799
identified in them or is it just because

1435
01:03:07,799 --> 01:03:11,819
we're talking about uh the reimbursable

1436
01:03:11,819 --> 01:03:14,760
or or a an account or an account that

1437
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,460
does have reimbursable portion right

1438
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,220
so exactly where we're funding it from

1439
01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:22,079
but we were very clear in the materials

1440
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:24,359
that we provided to council where the

1441
01:03:24,359 --> 01:03:27,359
funding source would come from but

1442
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:28,920
um again for all for our development

1443
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,540
related kind items whether that's the

1444
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:32,940
reimbursement account or whether

1445
01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:35,400
um they are paying our normal fees okay

1446
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
so these are they're special

1447
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,480
okay

1448
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,700
are going to be shared with the public

1449
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:44,520
for minutes

1450
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,260
just want to make sure that was

1451
01:03:46,260 --> 01:03:48,180
happening because it's not on the agenda

1452
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:50,160
and I did submit some questions they

1453
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,500
were answered clarifications either our

1454
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:55,140
practice is and has been for wealth that

1455
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:56,700
people can go to the website and see

1456
01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:58,619
those questions that uh that we do

1457
01:03:58,619 --> 01:04:01,740
submit so uh some of us are just so

1458
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:03,359
everybody knows so we're reading the

1459
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:04,799
packet we've been asked to questions

1460
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:07,200
staff uh does their due diligence to get

1461
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,880
back to us prior to tonight's meeting

1462
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,280
but they're also posted for people to to

1463
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,200
review as well I did skim through the responses that were provided and I

1464
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,240
had one one follow-up question so that

1465
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,180
there were two million dollar contracts

1466
01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:23,400
that were referenced in the stats of

1467
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,740
those funds become no longer encumbered

1468
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:27,420
and they're available for the rest of

1469
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:30,480
yes that's correct okay thank you thank

1470
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,420
you to comment on any of the consent

1471
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:35,880
items a through G

1472
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,220
I do not have any speaker cards and no

1473
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:40,079
remote hands are raised thank you then

1474
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:42,119
I'll bring it back to the council all

1475
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:44,760
votes so any action by Council on

1476
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,400
consent through the chair yes I will

1477
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,140
make a motion to approve the consent

1478
01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:50,280
calendar

1479
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:51,380
a second

1480
01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:53,900
or a second

1481
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:57,299
uh motion by salary second by Alvarez

1482
01:04:57,299 --> 01:04:58,980
roll call please

1483
01:04:58,980 --> 01:05:01,799
councilmember Alvarez

1484
01:05:01,799 --> 01:05:04,260
yes yes

1485
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:07,680
motion passes 5-0 with that thank you

1486
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,599
everyone we'll move on to item seven

1487
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,880
which is uh public hearing

1488
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,400
item 7A appeal of the Planning

1489
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,140
Commission decision to approve an

1490
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,540
Architectural Review permit and a use

1491
01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:20,700
permit to allow a residential addition

1492
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:23,940
to 1261 Claremont Drive

1493
01:05:23,940 --> 01:05:25,920
and first before we turn it over to the

1494
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,240
director I'd like to ask the city

1495
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,280
manager if you could please sure thank

1496
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,020
you mayor Javon Grogan city manager

1497
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:34,799
again it is my pleasure to introduce a

1498
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:36,780
new gentleman to our community community

1499
01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:39,059
that will provide this presentation a

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01:05:39,059 --> 01:05:41,160
gentleman by the name of Peter Gilly he

1501
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,839
is our new community and economic

1502
01:05:42,839 --> 01:05:46,140
development director this is this is his

1503
01:05:46,140 --> 01:05:48,540
very first council meeting he started

1504
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:52,859
with the city on January 3rd but he

1505
01:05:52,859 --> 01:05:54,480
spent almost his entire day in our

1506
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Emergency Operations Center and did

1507
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,260
stuff other than planning and

1508
01:05:58,260 --> 01:05:59,940
development for the first few days so it

1509
01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:03,059
was a wonderful trial by fire Mr Gilly

1510
01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:05,760
comes to us having been the community

1511
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,319
development director in the city of

1512
01:06:07,319 --> 01:06:09,720
Ventura having also worked in Thousand

1513
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,819
Oaks but also know that he has

1514
01:06:11,819 --> 01:06:14,040
significant Bay Area experience having

1515
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,900
worked prior in the city of Mountain

1516
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:18,900
View as well as Cupertino and so without

1517
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:20,220
further Ado

1518
01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:24,059
um Mr Gilly has in short amount of time

1519
01:06:24,059 --> 01:06:26,640
worked with staff and came up to speed

1520
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,380
enough that he wanted to do tonight's

1521
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:30,780
presentation and so we will turn it over

1522
01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:34,440
to Peter Gilly Mr Gilley I apologize

1523
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,359
um for folks in the audience if you wish

1524
01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:37,920
to speak on this topic and there will be

1525
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,599
public comment the speaker cards that

1526
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,400
you have if you bring them up over here

1527
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,740
uh to where the city clerk is that would

1528
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:45,539
be appreciated and with that I'm sorry

1529
01:06:45,539 --> 01:06:48,960
uh Mr Kelly please proceed yes thank you

1530
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,760
very much Mr Mayor members of the

1531
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,980
council as was stated I'm Peter Gilly

1532
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:55,559
I'm the new director of of of the

1533
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:56,819
community and economic development

1534
01:06:56,819 --> 01:06:58,920
department very happy to be here and

1535
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,160
with me is Michael Laughlin the planning

1536
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,700
and housing manager who is going to be

1537
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:07,619
my backup on some technical questions

1538
01:07:07,619 --> 01:07:10,220
that you if you end up having them

1539
01:07:10,220 --> 01:07:13,020
the agenda item tonight is a public

1540
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:14,700
hearing of an appeal of a Planning

1541
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:16,859
Commission decision to approve a

1542
01:07:16,859 --> 01:07:21,119
residential Edition at 1261 Claremont

1543
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:22,980
Drive

1544
01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:26,880
this is how this agenda item will be

1545
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,380
organized we'll have the staff

1546
01:07:28,380 --> 01:07:31,079
presentation and and then the council

1547
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:33,299
can ask questions of Staff will have the

1548
01:07:33,299 --> 01:07:36,119
appellant and then the applicant both

1549
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:38,520
have time for presentations there will

1550
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,039
be a public comment period and then the

1551
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,740
council will have the chance to ask

1552
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:46,799
uh additional questions and then uh go

1553
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,920
into to to the deliberations

1554
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,280
uh the council action uh may include a

1555
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,020
variety of options

1556
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:56,700
um many of which are listed in the staff

1557
01:07:56,700 --> 01:07:58,920
report uh you could approve the project

1558
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,299
uh effectively turning down the appeal

1559
01:08:02,299 --> 01:08:04,559
you can you can deny the project

1560
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:06,960
effectively granting the appeal you can

1561
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,140
also continue the item uh uh and request

1562
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:12,299
additional information or you can

1563
01:08:12,299 --> 01:08:14,220
provide Direction on modifications you

1564
01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:17,640
want to see and you can refer that back

1565
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,259
to the Planning Commission

1566
01:08:19,259 --> 01:08:21,239
so there's a variety of options for the

1567
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:22,920
council

1568
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,699
the objective of this agenda item this

1569
01:08:26,699 --> 01:08:29,299
hearing is to hold the public hearing

1570
01:08:29,299 --> 01:08:32,100
and receive information on the item so

1571
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:34,080
that you can make a final decision on

1572
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,940
the appeal of the planning commission's

1573
01:08:35,940 --> 01:08:39,349
approval

1574
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,460
so I will go through some highlights of

1575
01:08:41,460 --> 01:08:43,199
the background there is a lot more

1576
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,000
information in the staff report and and

1577
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,219
the packet if you have any questions on

1578
01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:51,779
anything that I don't go over please do ask them

1579
01:08:51,779 --> 01:08:57,480
the applicant is the property owner of of the subject site they are

1580
01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:59,520
proposing a one in two story addition to

1581
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,400
an existing home uh that is shown on the

1582
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,239
slide

1583
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:06,120
uh the location of the site is the

1584
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,460
corner of of

1585
01:09:08,460 --> 01:09:12,120
Claremont and and and and Fairmont uh

1586
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,880
and on the aerial photo uh showing the

1587
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,060
applicant site outlined in Orange uh the

1588
01:09:18,060 --> 01:09:21,060
appellant is the immediate neighbor uh

1589
01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:24,120
and they that that property is outlined

1590
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,640
in blue

1591
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,160
and the scope of the project the scope

1592
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,020
of the addition to the home uh it

1593
01:09:31,020 --> 01:09:33,000
triggers both an Architectural Review

1594
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,699
permit and a use permit uh which is why

1595
01:09:35,699 --> 01:09:37,440
it it went to the architectural view

1596
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:39,900
committee or Arc and it went to the

1597
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:44,570
Planning Commission

1598
01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:47,219
this slide shows the uh public hearings

1599
01:09:47,219 --> 01:09:49,500
that the project went to prior to even

1600
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:51,839
going to public hearings the application

1601
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,320
came in in August of 2021

1602
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,480
went through a round of Staff review and

1603
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:00,000
staff pointed out a number of of of of

1604
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,179
conflicts with the design guidelines the

1605
01:10:03,179 --> 01:10:06,540
applicant then updated the plan that

1606
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:09,900
update went to the arc on on

1607
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:12,679
November 4th of 2021

1608
01:10:12,679 --> 01:10:16,020
Arc recommended more modifications to

1609
01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:18,120
the project it came back in January of

1610
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,120
2022 at that point it was sent on to the

1611
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,580
Planning Commission who saw in February

1612
01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:27,179
of 2022 where uh there was a public

1613
01:10:27,179 --> 01:10:29,219
hearing uh there was a lot of discussion

1614
01:10:29,219 --> 01:10:31,920
and the Planning Commission asked that

1615
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,860
or they continued the item and asked the

1616
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:37,980
applicant to provide shade studies which

1617
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:40,620
are basically diagrams that show how the

1618
01:10:40,620 --> 01:10:42,840
project is going to cast Shadows

1619
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,140
particularly on the neighboring property

1620
01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:47,640
the project then came back to the

1621
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,840
Planning Commission with those shade

1622
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,739
studies in March of 2022

1623
01:10:51,739 --> 01:10:59,480
at that time the neighbor who is now the appellant also provided some

1624
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:01,800
concepts for how the design should be

1625
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,080
changed the Planning Commission took all

1626
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,540
that information and recommended that

1627
01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:09,840
the applicant do another redesign of the

1628
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,960
project to try to incorporate as many of the ideas that were discussed

1629
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,580
and I have slides coming up that are

1630
01:11:17,580 --> 01:11:19,620
going to show how the project has

1631
01:11:19,620 --> 01:11:20,880
evolved

1632
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,580
the applicant then updated the plans

1633
01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:26,580
again uh came back to the Arc in October

1634
01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:28,440
and then back to the Planning Commission

1635
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:32,100
in November uh at the end of November

1636
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:34,199
the Planning Commission

1637
01:11:34,199 --> 01:11:36,780
looked at the redesign uh and did end up

1638
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:41,450
voting 5-1 to approve the project

1639
01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:44,880
at that point uh the neighbor filed a

1640
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,100
timely appeal

1641
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,320
and that appeals at the Planning

1642
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,460
Commission are brought to the city

1643
01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:53,159
council and in their appeal documents

1644
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:54,620
the Appellate

1645
01:11:54,620 --> 01:11:56,940
listed a number of concerns which we

1646
01:11:56,940 --> 01:11:59,520
tried to provide a a snapshot of on the

1647
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,140
screen and in the staff report

1648
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:03,360
uh

1649
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,960
the the applicant has made uh clear at

1650
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:12,179
the Planning Commission level and in the uh appeal that uh they believe

1651
01:12:12,179 --> 01:12:14,159
there are opportunities to design a

1652
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:17,580
house in a different way uh that will

1653
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:20,820
reduce impacts on on their property and

1654
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:23,580
uh the appellant has a presentation and

1655
01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:28,310
we'll go through those arguments

1656
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,140
now go over uh some more details about

1657
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:33,060
the project and how we got to this point

1658
01:12:33,060 --> 01:12:36,120
uh we'll have some uh plans and images

1659
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,400
that I can come back to at any time if

1660
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,219
the council has has questions on them

1661
01:12:41,219 --> 01:12:48,239
this is uh just a street view of of of the home and Andy uh

1662
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:51,719
appellants home as well uh you want to

1663
01:12:51,719 --> 01:12:54,000
come back to this just to uh have have

1664
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,699
this image up

1665
01:12:56,699 --> 01:12:58,679
this is that same snapshot of the

1666
01:12:58,679 --> 01:13:03,000
existing home but also uh uh the view of

1667
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,239
the Planning Commission approved uh new

1668
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:09,060
home so the existing home is a little

1669
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:12,840
under 1900 square feet it has an far of

1670
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,460
0.32 and far is the floor area ratio

1671
01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:19,800
that is the sum of all of the areas of

1672
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,380
all the floors including the garage

1673
01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:23,820
divided by the lot area

1674
01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:26,940
uh the maximum allowed far for this

1675
01:13:26,940 --> 01:13:28,860
particular site based on our zoning is

1676
01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:31,080
0.55

1677
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,260
the Planning Commission approved project

1678
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:37,739
is a little over 3000 square feet of of

1679
01:13:37,739 --> 01:13:39,840
home again that's including the garage

1680
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,920
and a 0.53 far so slightly under the

1681
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,750
maximum that's allowed

1682
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,640
this is a site plan so this is a bird's

1683
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,159
eye view of the site again using the

1684
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:55,440
same color coding on the applicant's

1685
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,600
property in in

1686
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,900
for easier reference the lighter orange

1687
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:03,480
shading is the outline of the first

1688
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:06,420
floor which is predominantly the

1689
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:07,500
existing home

1690
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:10,860
the darker orange is shows the second

1691
01:14:10,860 --> 01:14:16,610
floor which is is all new

1692
01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:18,540
these are the building elevations of the

1693
01:14:18,540 --> 01:14:20,340
proposed home these elevations are

1694
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:22,380
two-dimensional views of the front the

1695
01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:24,719
rear and the two sides again we're

1696
01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:26,760
showing this so that we can come back to

1697
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,500
it if the council wants to discuss them

1698
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:30,960
we're going to be talking most about the

1699
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,420
north side that is the side that faces

1700
01:14:33,420 --> 01:14:34,880
the

1701
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:39,000
appellance property that elevation is in

1702
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,250
the bottom right hand corner

1703
01:14:43,260 --> 01:14:46,020
the applicant also provided renderings

1704
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:48,480
of of the pro of of the project which

1705
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:51,360
are three-dimensional views uh of of

1706
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,820
what the project would look like I just

1707
01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:56,940
want to note it is very common in uh in

1708
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,400
renderings that because it's a model out

1709
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,920
of a computer that they don't show the

1710
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,620
neighboring buildings it was not done on

1711
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:06,900
purpose that's just is the common

1712
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:12,169
approach

1713
01:15:12,179 --> 01:15:14,460
so the project actually complies with

1714
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,679
all the city's regulations

1715
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:19,440
but because the project triggered

1716
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,600
needing to go through special review it

1717
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,340
also needs to be found to meet our

1718
01:15:23,340 --> 01:15:25,440
residential design guidelines

1719
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,620
now the guidelines are as they are

1720
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:30,000
called they are guidelines they are not

1721
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,880
requirements that all need to be met but

1722
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,100
they are a very useful guide for staff

1723
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,780
applicants and the Planning Commission

1724
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:40,080
in order to judge whether a residential

1725
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,719
Edition should be approved

1726
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:45,060
just for context the the guidelines were

1727
01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:47,760
adopted by Council in 2010

1728
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,120
and there's there's over 150

1729
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,500
different

1730
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:55,080
guidelines in the document so there are

1731
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,179
a lot of them uh they're split up into

1732
01:15:57,179 --> 01:16:00,360
13 sections I put a handful of the most

1733
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,300
relevant ones uh on the screen

1734
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:04,800
neighborhood compatibility architectural

1735
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,320
style second floor treatment

1736
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,600
the the one that is the largest issue in

1737
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,460
this case is privacy and solar access

1738
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:14,100
and that is the one that the appellant

1739
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,640
is is Raising and giving the most

1740
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,520
attention to and two of them in

1741
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,500
particular which the appellant has in in

1742
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:25,199
their package is uh on the screen and

1743
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:28,380
that is uh the the guideline calls for

1744
01:16:28,380 --> 01:16:30,840
the project to minimize Shadow and

1745
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:37,790
privacy impacts on adjacent properties

1746
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,020
so through these six public hearings

1747
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:42,600
leading to this appeal the arc and

1748
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,400
Planning Commission reviewed the project

1749
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,500
for compliance with all of the design

1750
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:49,500
guidelines and spent arguably most of

1751
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:51,239
the time talking about topics that

1752
01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:55,080
related to shade and privacy

1753
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,000
the Planning Commission and Arc asked

1754
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,219
for a number of changes and the

1755
01:16:59,219 --> 01:17:01,440
predominantly the the major ones are

1756
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:03,179
listed on the screen they're also in the

1757
01:17:03,179 --> 01:17:05,280
written staff report and they all go

1758
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,380
towards addressing the mass of the

1759
01:17:07,380 --> 01:17:10,920
second floor and that size and volume of

1760
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,380
the second floor is directly related to

1761
01:17:13,380 --> 01:17:15,000
The Shadow impacts that the project will

1762
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,120
have as well as privacy impacts

1763
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,580
I have slides with imagery that shows

1764
01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:22,980
how each uh what each one of these look

1765
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:24,020
like

1766
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:27,900
but in general the the applicant has

1767
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:30,780
moved the Second Story further away from

1768
01:17:30,780 --> 01:17:34,199
uh from the property line with the

1769
01:17:34,199 --> 01:17:37,500
appellant that's item number one they've

1770
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:39,360
reduced the length of the second story

1771
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,550
that faces the uh

1772
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,840
property line of the of the appellant

1773
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,760
and they've reduced that total height of

1774
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,179
the building itself as well to address

1775
01:17:51,179 --> 01:17:52,800
privacy they've also taken out the

1776
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,239
Second Story deck and they've modified

1777
01:17:54,239 --> 01:18:00,950
the windows that are facing the appellant's property

1778
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,540
so I'll go through and try to show what

1779
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:06,480
those changes look like and mean on the

1780
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,480
proposed front elevation so this is

1781
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:11,699
viewing it from the street you'll see

1782
01:18:11,699 --> 01:18:13,440
there's uh

1783
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:16,199
on the left is the design that the

1784
01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:18,960
Planning Commission saw in March this is

1785
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,080
the the project designed that the

1786
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,699
Planning Commission asked to be

1787
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:26,640
redesigned and changed the one on the

1788
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,980
right is what came back to the Planning

1789
01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:31,140
Commission and was eventually approved

1790
01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:32,340
uh

1791
01:18:32,340 --> 01:18:34,800
you'll see on both of them there's an

1792
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,800
orange line that is dashed that is our

1793
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,500
daylight plane which is a guideline

1794
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:43,320
and it basically calls for if you're

1795
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,260
going to have a taller building

1796
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:48,300
basically the setback for the taller

1797
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:50,340
part of the building needs to be further

1798
01:18:50,340 --> 01:18:54,239
away originally the March 2020 2022

1799
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,219
design had the first and second floor

1800
01:18:56,219 --> 01:18:59,699
basically going straight up so that had

1801
01:18:59,699 --> 01:19:02,159
the massing of the second floor very

1802
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,380
close to the neighbor thus having more

1803
01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:07,920
Shadow impact the revised plan pushes

1804
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,600
the Second Story back the the first

1805
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,800
story is still where it is because it's

1806
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,320
existing house but the second story

1807
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,860
starts about an additional

1808
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:19,980
four feet in and that meets our daylight

1809
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:22,739
plane guideline again the applicant made

1810
01:19:22,739 --> 01:19:24,540
that change at the direction of the

1811
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:26,820
Planning Commission

1812
01:19:26,820 --> 01:19:29,219
as I noted earlier there's about a two

1813
01:19:29,219 --> 01:19:35,340
foot reduction in the overall height of the house the applicant has made the

1814
01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:37,020
plate Heights of the second floor the

1815
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:38,699
plate Heights being the ceiling height

1816
01:19:38,699 --> 01:19:40,320
uh

1817
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,060
pretty much as low as you can

1818
01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:48,659
it does it is at I believe seven foot

1819
01:19:48,659 --> 01:19:52,380
nine inches which for a a new house is

1820
01:19:52,380 --> 01:19:55,140
relatively low at the corners of the of

1821
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:57,179
the room so from the front elevation

1822
01:19:57,179 --> 01:19:59,580
those are changes that were made

1823
01:19:59,580 --> 01:20:03,300
then for the site elevation

1824
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:06,300
the again on the left that's the that's

1825
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:07,500
the project that went to Planning

1826
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:10,380
Commission in March on the right is the

1827
01:20:10,380 --> 01:20:15,060
redesign uh clearly the length of that

1828
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:19,260
second story in March was was uh

1829
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:22,320
was cut down approximately shown again

1830
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,380
in the in the orange Dash lines was the

1831
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:27,480
mass and the length of the Second Story

1832
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:32,820
back in March it it it was cut back so

1833
01:20:32,820 --> 01:20:35,880
that again is going to uh reduce the

1834
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,640
shadow impacts on the neighbor

1835
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,900
talked already about about the reduced

1836
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,580
height you can see it on on this angle

1837
01:20:41,580 --> 01:20:43,560
as well and then two other things to

1838
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,020
address privacy impacts the the plan

1839
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:48,420
used to have a second story deck that on

1840
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:51,480
the rear that's taken out and all of the

1841
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:54,960
windows now on this side are uh our

1842
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,940
clear story Windows which are windows

1843
01:20:56,940 --> 01:20:58,620
whose plate height or bottom of the

1844
01:20:58,620 --> 01:21:00,719
window is about

1845
01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:03,360
five feet eight inches the idea is it

1846
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,460
still gives light into the room it could

1847
01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:08,159
give air circulation but if you're just

1848
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:09,960
standing in the room you're not really

1849
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,100
going to have a view into your

1850
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:14,219
neighbor's yard again these were things

1851
01:21:14,219 --> 01:21:16,020
asked of the applicant by the Planning

1852
01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:19,260
Commission to reduce the impacts on on

1853
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:22,490
the appellant's property

1854
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:23,880
so

1855
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,060
after seeing all of these uh all of

1856
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:29,400
these changes

1857
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,320
through the hearings the Planning

1858
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:32,520
Commission ended up approving the

1859
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,179
project on a 5-1 vote and the Planning

1860
01:21:36,179 --> 01:21:37,800
Commission on these type of projects are

1861
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,800
required to make findings of approval

1862
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,900
and there are some excerpts of some of

1863
01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:45,360
those findings uh on on on the slide

1864
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,100
they're all in in the attached

1865
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:49,199
resolutions and also referencing the

1866
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:52,140
staff report but notably the Planning

1867
01:21:52,140 --> 01:21:55,020
Commission in their judgment found that

1868
01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:57,840
the project as redesigned will not

1869
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,460
unreasonably

1870
01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:01,640
restrict or interfere with light and air

1871
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,679
on on the property or on other property

1872
01:22:04,679 --> 01:22:05,880
in the neighborhood

1873
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,739
that was the planning commission's way

1874
01:22:07,739 --> 01:22:08,940
of saying

1875
01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:11,340
we do hear that the appellant has

1876
01:22:11,340 --> 01:22:14,340
problems and would like more changes but

1877
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:16,440
we do recognize the applicant has made

1878
01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:18,540
changes and the Planning Commission

1879
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:23,820
viewed that uh the impacts left on the

1880
01:22:23,820 --> 01:22:28,080
appellant were not unreasonable

1881
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,320
that was their their findings and it's

1882
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,360
important to note uh that doesn't mean

1883
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,340
the Planning Commission made a

1884
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:38,040
conclusion that there are no impacts uh

1885
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,179
it's pretty much accepted and

1886
01:22:39,179 --> 01:22:40,140
acknowledged that if you're going to

1887
01:22:40,140 --> 01:22:42,540
have a two-story home next to a

1888
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:44,400
one-story home there are going to be

1889
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,260
some shading impacts the Planning

1890
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:48,480
Commission made the finding that uh

1891
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:50,880
because the guidelines were met and

1892
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,100
design changes have been made that there

1893
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:56,040
won't be unreasonable impacts

1894
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,880
uh the app the appellant uh will make

1895
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,500
the case for why the planning

1896
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,800
commissions uh conclusion was not right

1897
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,850
and why more changes should be made

1898
01:23:09,860 --> 01:23:14,040
this slide is a necessary slide for all

1899
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,260
land use entitlements under the

1900
01:23:16,260 --> 01:23:18,900
California Environmental Quality act

1901
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:22,980
every action made at a hearing needs to

1902
01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:26,100
have a secret determination this project

1903
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:28,739
uh whether you're proven in this form

1904
01:23:28,739 --> 01:23:29,880
whether you approve it with

1905
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,179
modifications or even if if you don't if

1906
01:23:33,179 --> 01:23:35,219
you if you turn the project down it is

1907
01:23:35,219 --> 01:23:38,760
exempt from SQL review which which the

1908
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,060
Planning Commission agreed with

1909
01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:46,260
so moving into the conclusion uh the

1910
01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:48,900
recommendation for tonight is that this

1911
01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:50,159
is at the council hold the public

1912
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,020
hearing and adopt the resolution

1913
01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:55,260
approving the permits that the applicant

1914
01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:57,900
has asked for uh this is effectively

1915
01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:01,320
turning down the appeal and uh this does

1916
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,699
align with the planning commission's

1917
01:24:02,699 --> 01:24:04,920
action

1918
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,620
as noted previously uh there's the

1919
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:10,620
agenda for this this item and as I noted

1920
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:12,780
at the beginning the actions available

1921
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:15,239
to council go beyond what is recommended

1922
01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:18,960
you are able to turn down the project uh

1923
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,239
require more information and and have

1924
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:25,020
the project come back to council or direct more

1925
01:24:25,020 --> 01:24:26,940
changes happen uh with the option of

1926
01:24:26,940 --> 01:24:28,260
sending it back to Planning Commission

1927
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:30,120
for a final action

1928
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,580
so with that that's that concludes

1929
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:33,960
staff's presentation and we're available

1930
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,080
to answer any questions

1931
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,000
thank you very much and at this time are

1932
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,159
there any Council questions on the

1933
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:43,140
staff's presentations specifically to

1934
01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:47,570
the staff's presentation

1935
01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:50,990
vice mayor is there any

1936
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,699
thank you just wanted to make sure with

1937
01:24:53,699 --> 01:24:56,040
that what we are going to do is ask the

1938
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,699
uh appellant to please step forward for

1939
01:24:59,699 --> 01:25:01,739
the presentation

1940
01:25:01,739 --> 01:25:03,780
we'll have 10 this is the time to

1941
01:25:03,780 --> 01:25:06,420
utilize up to 10 minutes

1942
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:29,990
um or not but this will be the one time

1943
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,159
so as the opponent steps forward again

1944
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:34,260
uh have a minute to utilize it as you

1945
01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:36,000
wish but this will be the one time for

1946
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,520
your opportunity and uh welcome this

1947
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,620
evening and you let us know when you're

1948
01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:42,540
ready the city clerk will set the timer

1949
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:44,940
and it will be obviously you can see it

1950
01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:46,679
so I won't stop or interrupt you or give

1951
01:25:46,679 --> 01:25:48,780
you a uh what do you want to call it a

1952
01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:59,930
one minute unless you wish

1953
01:25:59,940 --> 01:26:05,699
thank you council members and staff for

1954
01:26:05,699 --> 01:26:07,980
hearing this appeal my name is Tyson

1955
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:09,600
Murphy I'm the

1956
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,780
homeowner at 1251 Claremont next door to

1957
01:26:12,780 --> 01:26:15,890
the post site

1958
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:17,400
um

1959
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,860
is there a

1960
01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:26,209
okay

1961
01:26:26,219 --> 01:26:28,679
I can't read it oh my gosh

1962
01:26:28,679 --> 01:26:30,659
okay let's jump right into it reasons

1963
01:26:30,659 --> 01:26:33,420
for the appeal the current design

1964
01:26:33,420 --> 01:26:35,820
unreasonably restricts Sun access and

1965
01:26:35,820 --> 01:26:38,280
privacy to our yard at 12 I disagree

1966
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,060
with interpretation from staff

1967
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:44,520
the original design in March 2022 was

1968
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,300
rejected due to excessive shading and it

1969
01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:50,880
did not uh

1970
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,920
existing design did not result in the

1971
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,020
shade and impact yet it was approved by

1972
01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:56,179
the

1973
01:26:56,179 --> 01:26:58,739
Planning Commission

1974
01:26:58,739 --> 01:27:01,860
anyway really I'm seeking an alternative

1975
01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:03,719
solution

1976
01:27:03,719 --> 01:27:04,620
um

1977
01:27:04,620 --> 01:27:06,960
to this problem that's beneficial to

1978
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,580
both parties

1979
01:27:08,580 --> 01:27:10,620
currently I feel that we at 1251

1980
01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:12,600
Claremont are incurring the brunt of the

1981
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:18,840
sacrifice here you have the

1982
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,960
you know on the left the snapshot of the

1983
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,000
design and then the right

1984
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,639
in relation to our yard above it and

1985
01:27:29,639 --> 01:27:32,040
then the aerial photo

1986
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,540
um

1987
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:35,460
our backyard is really more of a side

1988
01:27:35,460 --> 01:27:37,920
yard we don't have much proper room in

1989
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,360
the rear of the property it's to the

1990
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,400
side and it butts up to the shared

1991
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,679
property line with the proposed project

1992
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:47,040
our living room flows into the outdoor

1993
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,980
living space through large windows and

1994
01:27:49,980 --> 01:27:51,900
that's where we can take sunlight for

1995
01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:53,520
daylighting and warmth that was designed

1996
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,219
this way and the major issue that

1997
01:27:56,219 --> 01:27:57,659
threatens that is the Second Story

1998
01:27:57,659 --> 01:28:00,480
addition on the North wing

1999
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:03,000
one closest to our house

2000
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,739
that's significantly and unreasonably

2001
01:28:04,739 --> 01:28:09,470
Shades our yard and Outdoor Living Space

2002
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:13,790
additionally privacy concerns

2003
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,080
those windows they are able to see into

2004
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,380
our yard because they are windows so we

2005
01:28:19,380 --> 01:28:21,060
spent a lot of time in our yard our

2006
01:28:21,060 --> 01:28:22,460
nine-year-old daughter plays in our yard

2007
01:28:22,460 --> 01:28:25,380
I have a significant concern with the

2008
01:28:25,380 --> 01:28:28,380
Privacy that's uh that we have to deal

2009
01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:33,410
with here

2010
01:28:33,420 --> 01:28:36,480
so this is an image of our side yard

2011
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:38,699
side backyard taken from the rear of the

2012
01:28:38,699 --> 01:28:39,840
property

2013
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,760
that shows

2014
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,340
all of our outdoor living space in

2015
01:28:44,340 --> 01:28:49,199
relation to the project site there it's uh

2016
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,980
very very close proximity of their house

2017
01:28:52,980 --> 01:28:54,300
on the right

2018
01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,940
and The Morning Sun that filters into

2019
01:28:56,940 --> 01:28:59,100
our yard and into our home

2020
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:02,219
as design will essentially be snuffed

2021
01:29:02,219 --> 01:29:05,520
out by that very close uh

2022
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,330
Second Story on the North wing

2023
01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:13,920
um some interior photos to demonstrate

2024
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,679
how that sunlight coming in the backyard

2025
01:29:16,679 --> 01:29:18,440
Daylights into the home

2026
01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:20,639
provides you know that daylighting and

2027
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:24,420
the warmth and this is really a

2028
01:29:24,420 --> 01:29:26,940
you a critical functional element of the

2029
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:29,159
design of the home

2030
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:33,830
and the enjoyment of the home

2031
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,340
there's a living room on the left dining

2032
01:29:35,340 --> 01:29:37,020
room on the right and shared large

2033
01:29:37,020 --> 01:29:44,209
windows to the outdoor living space

2034
01:29:44,219 --> 01:29:46,980
I want to get back to the proximity of

2035
01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:49,860
the lease home next to us how close it

2036
01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:52,020
really is you can see in the middle

2037
01:29:52,020 --> 01:29:53,940
photo there's the shared property line

2038
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:56,040
fence and it's only a four foot side

2039
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,600
setback

2040
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,060
and you can see the one on the right I

2041
01:30:00,060 --> 01:30:01,739
mean there's our yard and their house

2042
01:30:01,739 --> 01:30:03,420
even as a one story

2043
01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:06,540
is already right on top of our yard and

2044
01:30:06,540 --> 01:30:08,000
if you're gonna build up from there

2045
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,380
that's where the significant impacts

2046
01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:17,870
occur

2047
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,620
okay this was showed in the staff

2048
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:21,480
presentation but the

2049
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:23,639
March 2022

2050
01:30:23,639 --> 01:30:26,100
design on the left with no daylight

2051
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:27,179
playing

2052
01:30:27,179 --> 01:30:29,760
was that was rejected due to excessive

2053
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,340
shading and in the new design on the

2054
01:30:32,340 --> 01:30:35,460
right so the biggest issue with the

2055
01:30:35,460 --> 01:30:39,600
shading is the top portion the the roof

2056
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,719
pitch you can see it's 17 feet three

2057
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:45,239
inches from the property line on the the

2058
01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:47,460
original design on the left and then

2059
01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:49,440
that was moved over only two feet to

2060
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:52,560
19-4 by the daylight plane

2061
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,320
so

2062
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,820
that shadow

2063
01:30:56,820 --> 01:30:59,219
you know only moved over two feet it

2064
01:30:59,219 --> 01:31:07,490
doesn't make a big impact

2065
01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:13,320
additionally their house sits on a

2066
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,600
higher elevation than our house the

2067
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,280
street is an upward slope going from our

2068
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,040
house to their house and that even the

2069
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,380
Shadows cast are even longer in length

2070
01:31:22,380 --> 01:31:27,890
than normal

2071
01:31:27,900 --> 01:31:31,199
so this is just to show that uh to make

2072
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:37,010
the comparison between the two designs

2073
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:39,260
and then this is

2074
01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:41,340
on the right

2075
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:44,100
these are Shadow diagrams

2076
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:45,780
from the um

2077
01:31:45,780 --> 01:31:49,320
from the architect showing that you know

2078
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,840
the left top left is the original design

2079
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,320
and the top right is you can see the

2080
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,100
second floor pitch shadow goes down and

2081
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,139
it's 44 feet six inches the original

2082
01:32:01,139 --> 01:32:03,480
design that was rejected for excessive

2083
01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:06,060
shading casts a shadow in the winter at

2084
01:32:06,060 --> 01:32:09,600
12 p.m 44 feet 6 inches the updated

2085
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,159
design

2086
01:32:11,159 --> 01:32:14,699
at 12 p.m winner cast a shadow length of

2087
01:32:14,699 --> 01:32:17,340
43 feet 2 inches

2088
01:32:17,340 --> 01:32:19,440
it's only a 16 inch difference three

2089
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,060
percent

2090
01:32:21,060 --> 01:32:23,880
they were directed to minimize the

2091
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,520
shadow impacts and the daylight plane

2092
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,920
implementation this proves did not

2093
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,659
accomplish that

2094
01:32:30,659 --> 01:32:32,460
but somehow the Planning Commission

2095
01:32:32,460 --> 01:32:34,139
approved it anyway

2096
01:32:34,139 --> 01:32:39,719
16 inches on a 44 foot Shadow that's a three percent difference that

2097
01:32:39,719 --> 01:32:42,659
is negligible that is

2098
01:32:42,659 --> 01:32:48,110
you know almost nothing

2099
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,360
and then as they were directed to

2100
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,400
minimize the shadow impacts per the

2101
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,480
language of the design guidelines

2102
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:59,580
3.13.1 minimize Shadow impacts on

2103
01:32:59,580 --> 01:33:01,320
adjacent properties designed second

2104
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,239
floor volumes to minimize

2105
01:33:03,239 --> 01:33:05,940
Sun access to Living Spaces and actively

2106
01:33:05,940 --> 01:33:10,440
used outdoor areas on adjacent homes

2107
01:33:10,440 --> 01:33:13,380
so they did not minimize the shadow

2108
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:14,880
impacts with the daylight plane

2109
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,179
impotation is my point here

2110
01:33:18,179 --> 01:33:20,100
um also going back to the privacy

2111
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,960
concerns that conflicts with the other

2112
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,239
daylight plane minimize privacy

2113
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,460
intrusion on adjacent residences so I

2114
01:33:26,460 --> 01:33:27,719
don't think they've accomplished either

2115
01:33:27,719 --> 01:33:31,129
of these

2116
01:33:31,139 --> 01:33:33,360
and then

2117
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,719
I want to say there was a the staff made

2118
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:40,440
a reference to a sketch that we provided

2119
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:42,960
from the

2120
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,480
original design

2121
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,880
that they say that they've made they've

2122
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,320
basically followed with their new design

2123
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,260
that was before

2124
01:33:52,260 --> 01:33:55,560
we saw the daylight plane of the design

2125
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,159
with it or we saw the shadow study with

2126
01:33:59,159 --> 01:34:00,900
the design of the daylight plane

2127
01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:02,880
implementation before we knew the

2128
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,159
daylight plane implementation did not

2129
01:34:05,159 --> 01:34:07,860
reduce the shading so

2130
01:34:07,860 --> 01:34:17,689
once I saw that everything changed

2131
01:34:17,699 --> 01:34:25,750
so

2132
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,159
I have demonstrated to you that you know

2133
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:30,659
the daylight plane implementation did

2134
01:34:30,659 --> 01:34:32,580
not minimize the shadow

2135
01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:35,699
uh impacts to our property

2136
01:34:35,699 --> 01:34:38,699
um at no point during the architecture

2137
01:34:38,699 --> 01:34:39,780
review or the Planning Commission

2138
01:34:39,780 --> 01:34:41,780
meetings did the project architect

2139
01:34:41,780 --> 01:34:44,460
demonstrate that

2140
01:34:44,460 --> 01:34:47,340
this new design did not demonstrate did

2141
01:34:47,340 --> 01:34:50,340
not quantify that it actually

2142
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:53,340
did improve the shading impact I

2143
01:34:53,340 --> 01:34:54,840
compared the old design and the new

2144
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,480
design he has never done that he has

2145
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:00,060
never proved to anyone the Planning

2146
01:35:00,060 --> 01:35:01,020
Commission

2147
01:35:01,020 --> 01:35:04,260
that there is an actual Improvement in

2148
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:06,600
the shading impact in this design

2149
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,699
compared to the old design that he

2150
01:35:08,699 --> 01:35:11,639
actually minimized the shadow impact

2151
01:35:11,639 --> 01:35:14,219
I've never seen that and at the last

2152
01:35:14,219 --> 01:35:16,080
Planning Commission call I asked him to

2153
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,760
do that

2154
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,560
he didn't do it the planning

2155
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,600
Commissioners didn't ask him to do that

2156
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,280
in fact they didn't ask him a single

2157
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,920
direct question which I couldn't believe

2158
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,510
based on the new information

2159
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,590
so

2160
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,540
one major concern that I have is that

2161
01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:38,580
every set of architectural plans

2162
01:35:38,580 --> 01:35:40,560
throughout this whole process

2163
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,600
has had

2164
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,820
inaccuracies and flaws in them from the

2165
01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:46,460
very beginning

2166
01:35:46,460 --> 01:35:48,239
and

2167
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:51,239
I was told by staff that they do not

2168
01:35:51,239 --> 01:35:52,739
have an independent process of

2169
01:35:52,739 --> 01:35:55,199
verification for the validity and

2170
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:57,060
accuracy of the information provided to

2171
01:35:57,060 --> 01:35:59,400
them by the architect

2172
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,980
there is no verification and they are

2173
01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:03,780
basing their analysis

2174
01:36:03,780 --> 01:36:05,699
on this information from the architect

2175
01:36:05,699 --> 01:36:07,800
and then submitting the recommendations

2176
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,580
accordingly to the Planning Commission

2177
01:36:10,580 --> 01:36:18,229
this is a huge issue

2178
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:20,840
in March for the March 2022

2179
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,159
Planning Commission meeting

2180
01:36:23,159 --> 01:36:25,260
I brought to the attention of the

2181
01:36:25,260 --> 01:36:27,420
planning department staff multiple

2182
01:36:27,420 --> 01:36:30,179
errors and flaws in that set of plans I

2183
01:36:30,179 --> 01:36:32,940
hired two independent Architects to

2184
01:36:32,940 --> 01:36:35,699
review the plans uh

2185
01:36:35,699 --> 01:36:38,159
examples include measurement between the

2186
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:41,159
houses were inaccurate that's important

2187
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:44,219
to the shadow study and the evaluation

2188
01:36:44,219 --> 01:36:47,400
the orientation of the Shadow sir I so

2189
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:48,719
much apologize it has been 10 minutes

2190
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:50,159
I'm going to give you 30 seconds which

2191
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:53,280
I'll do as well to the other side

2192
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,219
um but if you could okay

2193
01:36:56,219 --> 01:37:00,229
presentation back up

2194
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:02,219
okay

2195
01:37:02,219 --> 01:37:04,679
so the solution that I want to propose

2196
01:37:04,679 --> 01:37:07,860
that would be a shared sacrifice is you

2197
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,260
can see in blue there that you can find

2198
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:12,179
the Second Story addition to the

2199
01:37:12,179 --> 01:37:15,360
southeast wing it is

2200
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,280
perpendicular to the path of the sun

2201
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,960
where the north Wing is parallel that's

2202
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,580
why it blocks so much sun the

2203
01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:22,860
perpendicular will have less impact on

2204
01:37:22,860 --> 01:37:25,500
us and we don't expect zero impact we

2205
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:28,739
just don't agree with you know there's

2206
01:37:28,739 --> 01:37:31,500
too much impact now he has room on three

2207
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:33,179
sides of the house there to expand the

2208
01:37:33,179 --> 01:37:34,139
first story

2209
01:37:34,139 --> 01:37:39,260
he can get uh all they can get

2210
01:37:39,260 --> 01:37:41,639
maintain the desired square footage they

2211
01:37:41,639 --> 01:37:43,860
can reduce the visual impact for the

2212
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:46,920
neighborhood by reducing the the amount

2213
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,600
of a second story mass and mitigate the

2214
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,940
shadow impact and privacy concerns for

2215
01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:53,940
us at 1251 Clara thank you very much I

2216
01:37:53,940 --> 01:37:55,800
appreciate that thank you for your time

2217
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,780
and and your information that you

2218
01:37:57,780 --> 01:38:00,659
provided to us with that I'm going to

2219
01:38:00,659 --> 01:38:02,460
move to the uh

2220
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:22,270
applicant presentation step forward

2221
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,440
just so we you'll have the laptop that

2222
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:27,120
you can reference or set it on your

2223
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:28,560
clock but you will have 10 minutes but

2224
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,900
obviously to be fair

2225
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:32,940
um you'll have 10 minutes and 30 seconds

2226
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:35,520
but my room but I want to be fair and

2227
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,020
Equitable to everybody yeah that'd be

2228
01:38:37,020 --> 01:38:41,470
great thank you

2229
01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:45,540
yeah and and you tell me if you wish a

2230
01:38:45,540 --> 01:38:47,820
minute warning or if you if if you don't

2231
01:38:47,820 --> 01:38:49,500
yeah actually

2232
01:38:49,500 --> 01:38:52,620
um give me uh once it gets to about six

2233
01:38:52,620 --> 01:38:54,540
minutes give me a warning uh the

2234
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:55,860
homeowners would like to speak a little

2235
01:38:55,860 --> 01:38:57,780
bit too so you want to add a six minute

2236
01:38:57,780 --> 01:38:59,699
you want to know yeah I'm gonna keep

2237
01:38:59,699 --> 01:39:02,219
doing this again because it'll be within

2238
01:39:02,219 --> 01:39:04,679
the 10 minutes so even though you're

2239
01:39:04,679 --> 01:39:06,300
pausing and the person's coming there's

2240
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:09,420
some walking time you to understand that

2241
01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:12,179
you might want to bring them up closer

2242
01:39:12,179 --> 01:39:14,460
okay so that you don't want to waste

2243
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:16,560
time on somebody walking up because I'm

2244
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,500
just trying to look out for everybody

2245
01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:22,199
okay and as city clerk would you help be

2246
01:39:22,199 --> 01:39:24,120
mindful of that it's a six minute Mark

2247
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,639
that he wishes to know and uh you tell

2248
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:27,780
us when you're ready and the time will

2249
01:39:27,780 --> 01:39:30,000
begin okay cool sounds good the only

2250
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,080
thing I just want to make sure is that

2251
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,320
the slides work can we fill those up

2252
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:35,820
real quick before we start the timer

2253
01:39:35,820 --> 01:39:37,260
we'll get the present up there I'll make

2254
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:40,020
sure I can actually uh go forward and

2255
01:39:40,020 --> 01:39:43,610
back

2256
01:39:43,620 --> 01:39:45,480
okay looks like it's working

2257
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:47,820
I'm ready whenever uh you

2258
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:50,629
guys are

2259
01:39:50,639 --> 01:39:53,520
good yeah I'm ready let's go thank you

2260
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,260
okay

2261
01:39:55,260 --> 01:39:57,120
all right thank you everybody uh thank

2262
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,120
you mayor vice mayor and council members

2263
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,920
um there was quite a a lot of

2264
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,040
accusations and I'm going to try to

2265
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,920
answer as most of those as I can

2266
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,380
um but I guess before I get into that

2267
01:40:10,380 --> 01:40:12,239
let me just quickly

2268
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:15,120
answer the first one we did our best to

2269
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:16,320
mitigate

2270
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:20,280
the shading and everything that

2271
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,219
1251 says that we were impacting so I'm

2272
01:40:23,219 --> 01:40:25,560
going to click and as you can see in the

2273
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,540
red that's basically the original design

2274
01:40:27,540 --> 01:40:29,639
the red was what was deleted from the

2275
01:40:29,639 --> 01:40:31,920
design and that includes a deck and also

2276
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,980
the north side and on top of that we

2277
01:40:34,980 --> 01:40:36,600
thought in good faith that we would also

2278
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,520
remove the room too so it would allow

2279
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:39,840
them a better view from their bedroom

2280
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,600
and so we removed that too and so that's

2281
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:44,400
what's in the green

2282
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,639
and so what ended up happening is we

2283
01:40:47,639 --> 01:40:49,679
also were at a commission meeting where

2284
01:40:49,679 --> 01:40:52,620
they presented us with a design that

2285
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:58,199
placed more weight at the south of the building and that's what we also did

2286
01:40:58,199 --> 01:40:59,699
and that's how we ended up with the

2287
01:40:59,699 --> 01:41:03,410
current design

2288
01:41:03,420 --> 01:41:05,639
so this is going to just illustrate that

2289
01:41:05,639 --> 01:41:07,620
a little bit better so that we're all

2290
01:41:07,620 --> 01:41:10,020
clear so the dotted lines is what was

2291
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:11,820
deleted from the original

2292
01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:13,860
and then also the green line is what was

2293
01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,330
added

2294
01:41:17,340 --> 01:41:21,290
so one more time

2295
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:23,100
so all of that was removed right there

2296
01:41:23,100 --> 01:41:26,040
in the red that's been shaded

2297
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,139
as well as we change the size of those

2298
01:41:28,139 --> 01:41:30,659
windows and over here

2299
01:41:30,659 --> 01:41:32,400
we're going to show that again of the

2300
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,460
total amount that was removed

2301
01:41:35,460 --> 01:41:37,739
and the room that was removed was right

2302
01:41:37,739 --> 01:41:40,080
there so we were hoping that by removing

2303
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,060
that it would uh

2304
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:43,980
make everything a little bit better

2305
01:41:43,980 --> 01:41:46,020
um but you know we're here now

2306
01:41:46,020 --> 01:41:49,430
so

2307
01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:52,139
all right so this brings us to uh the

2308
01:41:52,139 --> 01:41:55,739
main points that Tyson made and I think

2309
01:41:55,739 --> 01:41:57,659
his presentation the majority of it

2310
01:41:57,659 --> 01:42:00,300
focused on the shadows and how it

2311
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:02,580
impacts his backyard we've tried to

2312
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:05,639
explain to him multiple times uh in in a

2313
01:42:05,639 --> 01:42:08,219
and do meetings privately as well as

2314
01:42:08,219 --> 01:42:09,960
during the commission meetings so I

2315
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,159
would like to illustrate this one more

2316
01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:13,139
time very clearly so as you can see in

2317
01:42:13,139 --> 01:42:15,900
the red that is the first level of the

2318
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:19,320
house that red is the existing shade of

2319
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,119
the house the first three slides that

2320
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:23,699
you see is in the summer time and that

2321
01:42:23,699 --> 01:42:27,540
green portion is actually the the shade

2322
01:42:27,540 --> 01:42:30,600
that's caused by the second floor

2323
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,040
um so during the summer time I don't

2324
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,600
think there's any issues as you can see

2325
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,119
once it hits noon uh there isn't really

2326
01:42:36,119 --> 01:42:38,100
nothing on

2327
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:41,340
Tyson's property so Equinox is on the

2328
01:42:41,340 --> 01:42:43,679
next three slides so as you can see the

2329
01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:47,460
red there is is basically what the

2330
01:42:47,460 --> 01:42:50,580
existing house Shadows casting and so

2331
01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:52,800
there's some pink hatchlines as well as

2332
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,520
the green that is the shadow that will

2333
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,159
be added onto the existing Shadow at 9am

2334
01:42:59,159 --> 01:43:02,340
but once it hits 12 o'clock the shadow

2335
01:43:02,340 --> 01:43:04,560
will recede and it will as you can see

2336
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,199
it goes where the red is existing and

2337
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:10,560
the green is uh the second floor and I

2338
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,060
like to make a note that in the photos

2339
01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:15,480
and everything the green Shadow isn't in

2340
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:18,119
their main backyard area so by 12

2341
01:43:18,119 --> 01:43:21,600
o'clock the Shadows already moved aside

2342
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,060
and then by three o'clock all Shadows

2343
01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:25,860
off their property and I think one of

2344
01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:27,719
the major contentions was actually

2345
01:43:27,719 --> 01:43:30,300
during winter time so we ended up doing

2346
01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:34,199
a few more sun studies to illustrate

2347
01:43:34,199 --> 01:43:36,659
um or so they have a better view of all

2348
01:43:36,659 --> 01:43:40,980
this so for 9 A.M it's uh all the shadow

2349
01:43:40,980 --> 01:43:47,699
that's cast is actually by the first level so there isn't really

2350
01:43:47,699 --> 01:43:51,060
any second floor level Shadow casted uh

2351
01:43:51,060 --> 01:43:53,159
so on the second slide that little bit

2352
01:43:53,159 --> 01:43:55,920
of green and then then that's already I

2353
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,900
believe at 10 o'clock it's real rotated

2354
01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:01,800
out and you guys you can see it's none

2355
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,600
of it's really hitting their backyard

2356
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,119
and I think one of the things that Tyson

2357
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:08,159
said that the information that I'm

2358
01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:10,320
providing is not accurate or potentially

2359
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,300
not accurate and I'd like to make it

2360
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:14,460
very clear that on on the staff report

2361
01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:17,219
on page 135 actually show all the

2362
01:44:17,219 --> 01:44:20,760
calculations of how I re I did the

2363
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,280
length in a triangle showing how the

2364
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,739
shade links are done and all that

2365
01:44:25,739 --> 01:44:27,860
information can be

2366
01:44:27,860 --> 01:44:30,780
compared to on online solar calculators

2367
01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:33,000
okay so you're seeing the time okay copy

2368
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:33,960
that okay

2369
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,820
um well okay one one more minute and

2370
01:44:35,820 --> 01:44:36,900
then oh

2371
01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:40,280
all right what else we got um

2372
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:44,930
no no let me make sure I got everything

2373
01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:46,560
um

2374
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,139
okay okay well

2375
01:44:49,139 --> 01:44:51,480
so I'll move away from the shadows and

2376
01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:53,760
let's just talk about the house so the

2377
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,280
way that the properties are laid out

2378
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,560
um I wanted to illustrate on this slide

2379
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,080
that there's

2380
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,420
a lot of foliage everywhere

2381
01:45:03,420 --> 01:45:04,860
um as you can see in the red arrow

2382
01:45:04,860 --> 01:45:08,340
that's a pretty large set of foliage so

2383
01:45:08,340 --> 01:45:10,739
a lot of the Shadows do come from there

2384
01:45:10,739 --> 01:45:13,800
once we get past the the noon

2385
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:19,669
um so let me show you

2386
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:22,500
again this is their backyard those trees

2387
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:25,800
and everything uh cast quite a bit of

2388
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,060
Shadows

2389
01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:29,280
um so I just want to I just want to make

2390
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,679
sure that everybody understands that the

2391
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,380
project site itself

2392
01:45:33,380 --> 01:45:37,440
is prone to shadows and so and the

2393
01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:38,940
purpose of all those other slides was

2394
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:40,619
just to show that

2395
01:45:40,619 --> 01:45:42,600
the Shadows actually created by the

2396
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,500
second floor isn't that large as shown

2397
01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:48,060
in the green

2398
01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:54,410
but yeah that's that's how I go um yeah

2399
01:45:54,420 --> 01:45:56,820
hi I'm Kevin I'm the owner of 1261

2400
01:45:56,820 --> 01:45:58,560
Claremont

2401
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,239
um

2402
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:03,900
I'll I'll start my course

2403
01:46:03,900 --> 01:46:06,960
so healthier hello honor I just want to

2404
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,159
say that it's nice to actually have a

2405
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:09,480
chance in person to get to meet our

2406
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:13,020
mayor uh vice mayor council members city

2407
01:46:13,020 --> 01:46:15,300
manager and assistant manager I think

2408
01:46:15,300 --> 01:46:17,940
Peter unless you finally meet you uh

2409
01:46:17,940 --> 01:46:20,699
Michael

2410
01:46:20,699 --> 01:46:22,020
um

2411
01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:23,639
thank you all and events for your time

2412
01:46:23,639 --> 01:46:25,380
our neighbor Tyson Murphy has a right to

2413
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:27,000
State how he feels about the subject I

2414
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,040
respect his right but certainly don't

2415
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,719
discount all the actual efforts and

2416
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:32,520
resources we put into this project this

2417
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,159
house for the past uh more than one year

2418
01:46:35,159 --> 01:46:37,260
all the efforts to get all the efforts

2419
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:38,820
to get the approval of the house and

2420
01:46:38,820 --> 01:46:40,739
definitely feel free to ask Brian and I

2421
01:46:40,739 --> 01:46:41,960
any questions

2422
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,480
through any of those pages uh I would

2423
01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:48,300
definitely want to answer you guys if

2424
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:51,600
you guys have any questions and

2425
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,000
I'm just going to enter and pass it on

2426
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:59,390
to my wife thank you

2427
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,139
good evening uh council members and

2428
01:47:01,139 --> 01:47:02,340
staff

2429
01:47:02,340 --> 01:47:04,800
um thank you for your time so we've been

2430
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,739
living in San Bruno since 2013 and when

2431
01:47:07,739 --> 01:47:09,840
I was pregnant in 2020 we decided to

2432
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:11,219
look for a house

2433
01:47:11,219 --> 01:47:13,619
since we were going to have a baby so in

2434
01:47:13,619 --> 01:47:17,699
2021 we were really lucky to find 1261

2435
01:47:17,699 --> 01:47:20,340
Claremont out of all the competition you

2436
01:47:20,340 --> 01:47:21,780
know we were able to purchase this

2437
01:47:21,780 --> 01:47:23,159
fixer-upper

2438
01:47:23,159 --> 01:47:25,260
and we were hoping to move in by

2439
01:47:25,260 --> 01:47:28,320
Christmas of last year but now our sun

2440
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,360
is two and a half almost and we're still

2441
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:32,520
living in a one bedroom condo just The

2442
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,980
Shelter Creek a few blocks away and you

2443
01:47:34,980 --> 01:47:37,139
know it's really difficult to have a two

2444
01:47:37,139 --> 01:47:38,699
and a half year old in a one-bedroom

2445
01:47:38,699 --> 01:47:41,460
condo and um

2446
01:47:41,460 --> 01:47:42,900
there's nowhere for him to run

2447
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:44,880
especially in the winter when it's like

2448
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,760
ringing almost every day

2449
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:50,520
so you know it's very frustrating to see

2450
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,920
that our property is sitting empty just

2451
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:54,260
a few blocks away

2452
01:47:54,260 --> 01:47:58,020
because of uh some Shadows preventing us

2453
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:01,199
from moving in and I mean I don't want

2454
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,139
to repeat what the architecture

2455
01:48:03,139 --> 01:48:05,699
architect said and planning commissions

2456
01:48:05,699 --> 01:48:10,560
they've been through this you know many times and I just really hope that

2457
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,940
we can move forward with our life

2458
01:48:11,940 --> 01:48:13,679
because I was planning to have another

2459
01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:16,320
baby but you know this whole setback I

2460
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,960
don't know what's going on so

2461
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,780
um yeah so please I I hope we can

2462
01:48:21,780 --> 01:48:23,580
continue with our Remodel and finally

2463
01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:28,970
get to enjoy our home thank you so much

2464
01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:30,840
thank you is there any time remaining

2465
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:32,639
sir

2466
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:34,139
little undertale

2467
01:48:34,139 --> 01:48:37,020
a little under two minutes left is there

2468
01:48:37,020 --> 01:48:38,639
any final comments this is the one

2469
01:48:38,639 --> 01:48:41,460
opportunity no we're all good okay then

2470
01:48:41,460 --> 01:48:43,440
I've been told by the applicant that

2471
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:44,699
their presentation has concluded

2472
01:48:44,699 --> 01:48:46,260
therefore both presentations have

2473
01:48:46,260 --> 01:48:48,239
concluded this is the last opportunity

2474
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:50,100
for those here in the audience to put

2475
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:51,780
forward any speaker cards but now we'll

2476
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:53,940
turn it over to any public comments so

2477
01:48:53,940 --> 01:48:55,560
the clerk will read your name please

2478
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:57,360
step forward to the podium and you will

2479
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,760
have up to three minutes

2480
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,980
and city clerk will be keeping time

2481
01:49:01,980 --> 01:49:03,780
thank you

2482
01:49:03,780 --> 01:49:06,179
give me one moment let me just reset the

2483
01:49:06,179 --> 01:49:22,310
timer

2484
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,260
okay I have one two three and I mean

2485
01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:27,780
sorry four in-person speaker cards

2486
01:49:27,780 --> 01:49:31,920
I will be calling in John McLaughlin

2487
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,400
as well as Joanne

2488
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,820
next one is s-bomb

2489
01:49:38,820 --> 01:49:52,070
and the fourth is Terence Lee

2490
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,179
thank you

2491
01:49:54,179 --> 01:49:56,340
am I I'm live

2492
01:49:56,340 --> 01:49:59,159
uh Mr Mayor and council members uh thank

2493
01:49:59,159 --> 01:50:00,659
you for hearing me

2494
01:50:00,659 --> 01:50:01,320
um

2495
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,780
I'm here to speak in support of the

2496
01:50:03,780 --> 01:50:06,119
Murphys and seek changes that will

2497
01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:08,880
address their legitimate concerns by way

2498
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,739
of background I've known I knew the

2499
01:50:10,739 --> 01:50:12,840
prior owner I've known him for over 50

2500
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,420
years and I remember him telling me how

2501
01:50:15,420 --> 01:50:17,699
delighted he was to sell the place which

2502
01:50:17,699 --> 01:50:19,980
had been continuously occupied before he

2503
01:50:19,980 --> 01:50:22,320
sold it versus a number of years so it

2504
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,000
was not a teardown

2505
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,219
uh but he was delighted because the

2506
01:50:26,219 --> 01:50:29,159
purchaser uh needed to make a 1031

2507
01:50:29,159 --> 01:50:32,520
exchange for tax purposes so he was

2508
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,199
quite happy with the price he got and

2509
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:36,540
quite happy to be moving on from the

2510
01:50:36,540 --> 01:50:38,159
house

2511
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:40,199
but I'd like to each of you to take a

2512
01:50:40,199 --> 01:50:41,280
minute

2513
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,920
and sit in the place of the Murphys

2514
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,719
you've already heard from the applicant

2515
01:50:45,719 --> 01:50:47,520
about their situation and their small

2516
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,980
apartment but you need to appreciate how

2517
01:50:49,980 --> 01:50:52,500
things look from the Murphy's home

2518
01:50:52,500 --> 01:50:54,300
you've just purchased the home of your

2519
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:56,880
dreams looking forward to living in San

2520
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,920
Bruno your daughter playing in the

2521
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,219
backyard virtually by accident you learn

2522
01:51:02,219 --> 01:51:05,340
a massive expansion the house next door

2523
01:51:05,340 --> 01:51:07,020
is going through the approval process

2524
01:51:07,020 --> 01:51:09,840
you didn't receive the notice

2525
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,360
you speak up examine and find the

2526
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,699
applicant's package is peppered with

2527
01:51:14,699 --> 01:51:17,159
errors and omissions a chart was shown

2528
01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:19,739
up there of these various meetings those

2529
01:51:19,739 --> 01:51:21,480
little boxes really don't do those

2530
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:23,699
meetings Justice you could spend a

2531
01:51:23,699 --> 01:51:25,500
couple hours on each of those meetings

2532
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:28,139
dissecting them dissecting the issues

2533
01:51:28,139 --> 01:51:30,139
that came up and the errors that came up

2534
01:51:30,139 --> 01:51:33,300
sometimes found by staff quite often

2535
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:35,340
found by The Murphys or by The

2536
01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:36,600
Architects

2537
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,780
that they'd retained and a lot of those

2538
01:51:39,780 --> 01:51:41,639
were identified a lot of those were

2539
01:51:41,639 --> 01:51:42,780
corrected

2540
01:51:42,780 --> 01:51:45,179
you speak up you examine you find the

2541
01:51:45,179 --> 01:51:46,980
applicant's package is peppered with

2542
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:48,900
errors and emissions and will damage you

2543
01:51:48,900 --> 01:51:51,659
and I think Tyson Murphy has made it

2544
01:51:51,659 --> 01:51:53,460
very clear how he feels that will damage

2545
01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:54,179
him

2546
01:51:54,179 --> 01:51:57,300
back to package goes only to return with

2547
01:51:57,300 --> 01:52:00,239
some errors corrected some created new

2548
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:02,639
ones and evidence of the potential

2549
01:52:02,639 --> 01:52:04,619
damage to your quiet enjoyment of your

2550
01:52:04,619 --> 01:52:07,080
home in the meantime you've encouraged

2551
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,699
significant costs to bring forward

2552
01:52:08,699 --> 01:52:11,100
correct information you become

2553
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:13,560
optimistic in the commission conveys an

2554
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,139
expectation that the applicant meet with

2555
01:52:16,139 --> 01:52:18,000
you and develop an agreeable path

2556
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,580
forward you become frustrated over the

2557
01:52:20,580 --> 01:52:23,100
lack of responsiveness to your essential

2558
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:26,100
concerns back the package goes through

2559
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:28,739
the Architectural Review sent forward to

2560
01:52:28,739 --> 01:52:30,960
the commission with a we've done all we

2561
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,800
can do comment and approved one thing is

2562
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,800
missing the additional concerns of the

2563
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,020
Murphys were not addressed

2564
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:42,719
to be accurate many changes were made to

2565
01:52:42,719 --> 01:52:45,420
the design it does look better than the

2566
01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:47,820
first try if the first try had looked

2567
01:52:47,820 --> 01:52:50,040
like this and the applicant had been

2568
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,719
willing to actually work with the

2569
01:52:51,719 --> 01:52:54,360
Murphys I'd like to Hope real progress

2570
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,000
could have been made to correct features

2571
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,400
damaging the Murphy's quality of life

2572
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,000
thank you thank you for your comments

2573
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,040
thank you for being mindful of the time

2574
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:10,970
appreciate

2575
01:53:10,980 --> 01:53:14,760
good evening I'm Joanne McLaughlin

2576
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,040
um we're at 1281 Claremont so just a

2577
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,199
couple houses away

2578
01:53:19,199 --> 01:53:22,380
I just like to emphasize the residential

2579
01:53:22,380 --> 01:53:23,880
guidelines

2580
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,460
that when the city

2581
01:53:26,460 --> 01:53:27,739
um

2582
01:53:27,739 --> 01:53:31,320
wrote up these guidelines clearly their

2583
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:35,040
intent was to preserve Sun access as

2584
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,540
much as possible

2585
01:53:36,540 --> 01:53:40,020
you know if the diet in your materials

2586
01:53:40,020 --> 01:53:41,940
there's the diagram showing the

2587
01:53:41,940 --> 01:53:44,760
two-story house shading completely the

2588
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:46,980
one-story house next door that's the

2589
01:53:46,980 --> 01:53:51,060
situation that we're in even though the

2590
01:53:51,060 --> 01:53:53,639
they have done the they have moved the

2591
01:53:53,639 --> 01:53:56,880
house addition over a little bit the net

2592
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,060
effect is it's still shading the house

2593
01:54:00,060 --> 01:54:03,179
even as the architect said all morning

2594
01:54:03,179 --> 01:54:05,940
the mornings are being shaded and this

2595
01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:08,340
is an important time in your life I mean

2596
01:54:08,340 --> 01:54:10,500
it's it's half the time you know that's

2597
01:54:10,500 --> 01:54:13,440
till noon that's a big part of your day

2598
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:15,540
it's important

2599
01:54:15,540 --> 01:54:18,960
um and just my question is

2600
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,500
why do the leaves have the blessings of

2601
01:54:22,500 --> 01:54:26,540
the city of the Planning Commission

2602
01:54:26,540 --> 01:54:30,840
to diminish the Murphy's enjoyment of

2603
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,100
their house

2604
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:36,480
I mean why are there rights greater than

2605
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,659
the existing homeowner the home people

2606
01:54:39,659 --> 01:54:40,920
that live there

2607
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,880
the um in the one-story house

2608
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,040
the other my other issue is that yes

2609
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,139
this has taken a long time but you

2610
01:54:49,139 --> 01:54:50,520
should have you should have been at

2611
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:51,780
those meetings

2612
01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:56,880
the initial the initial trying to get it

2613
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,460
out right project

2614
01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:02,760
um they bought the house May 27th they

2615
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,440
had this to the Planning Commission at

2616
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,900
August 19th so they threw this together

2617
01:55:06,900 --> 01:55:08,400
really fast

2618
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,440
they didn't go out and measure they just

2619
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,280
did Google Maps you know the estimated

2620
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:17,040
where how close it was to the fence it

2621
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,880
was all guesstimating and the

2622
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,920
neighborhood was very upset because it

2623
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,440
was so massive it's just larger than any

2624
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,840
other house in our neighborhood

2625
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:32,159
and it was very sloppy and so that's why

2626
01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:34,980
there was revision and revision and

2627
01:55:34,980 --> 01:55:37,139
revision but yet even though that has

2628
01:55:37,139 --> 01:55:39,239
all been done

2629
01:55:39,239 --> 01:55:41,460
and even though the architect is saying

2630
01:55:41,460 --> 01:55:43,920
oh we'll now see this is very little

2631
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,580
effect is coming from the second floor

2632
01:55:47,580 --> 01:55:49,380
you should have heard

2633
01:55:49,380 --> 01:55:51,600
I know that Tyson has photographs

2634
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,760
showing that

2635
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,219
in the morning he is getting sun in the

2636
01:55:56,219 --> 01:55:58,260
winter time even though the one-story

2637
01:55:58,260 --> 01:56:00,480
house is there it is coming through so

2638
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,060
when the second story is built on that's

2639
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:06,780
going to cause him to have

2640
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:10,080
to lose his sunshine in the morning and

2641
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,600
you know we all miss the sunshine these

2642
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,100
days we really

2643
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:17,400
we want sunshine thank you thank you for

2644
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,050
your comments next speaker please

2645
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:38,990
next speaker is s bomb

2646
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,840
Sharon bomb Claremont Drive

2647
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,119
Mr mayor council members

2648
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:47,880
I've lived in this neighborhood for 60

2649
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:49,139
years

2650
01:56:49,139 --> 01:56:51,480
I've seen a lot of things happen I've

2651
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,900
seen houses rebuilt I've seen houses

2652
01:56:54,900 --> 01:56:57,719
added on

2653
01:56:57,719 --> 01:57:03,119
um this house that is proposed at 1261

2654
01:57:03,119 --> 01:57:06,119
the house the Murphy's house and I don't

2655
01:57:06,119 --> 01:57:08,159
even know the Murphys I don't know

2656
01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:09,780
really either

2657
01:57:09,780 --> 01:57:12,800
and the house behind

2658
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:17,219
1261 they are literally going to be

2659
01:57:17,219 --> 01:57:20,580
smothered by this Edition

2660
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:24,300
it's just way too big it doesn't blend

2661
01:57:24,300 --> 01:57:26,280
in with the neighborhood it looks like a

2662
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:27,900
hotel

2663
01:57:27,900 --> 01:57:30,239
because it's sitting out there on the

2664
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:33,619
corner these houses when they were built

2665
01:57:33,619 --> 01:57:38,340
65 plus years ago they were all one

2666
01:57:38,340 --> 01:57:41,360
level ranch style homes

2667
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,400
this certainly doesn't

2668
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,679
blend in with the neighborhood at all

2669
01:57:46,679 --> 01:57:48,619
where it's located

2670
01:57:48,619 --> 01:57:52,139
and I agree with the Murphys that it

2671
01:57:52,139 --> 01:57:56,030
impedes on their privacy

2672
01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:00,420
um it seems to be really close to the

2673
01:58:00,420 --> 01:58:02,820
property lines

2674
01:58:02,820 --> 01:58:03,659
um

2675
01:58:03,659 --> 01:58:05,280
perhaps

2676
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,679
the leaves should have had a little more

2677
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:10,500
foresight before they purchased this

2678
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:13,920
house if in the end they wanted such a

2679
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,199
big big home

2680
01:58:16,199 --> 01:58:19,800
but it just it doesn't fit

2681
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,900
on that corner

2682
01:58:21,900 --> 01:58:26,820
thank you for your comments next speaker

2683
01:58:26,820 --> 01:58:28,440
please

2684
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:42,830
next speaker is Terence Lee

2685
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,280
hmm uh thank you everybody

2686
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:49,320
I'm not prepared to speak until the last

2687
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,119
minute

2688
01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:53,639
I believe science

2689
01:58:53,639 --> 01:58:57,060
and I still remember 40 something years

2690
01:58:57,060 --> 01:58:59,760
ago I come to cebuno I studied in

2691
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,199
Skyline College

2692
01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:03,840
and I went to San Jose State Company San

2693
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,820
Bruno San Francisco

2694
01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:09,000
I do encourage my son Terry to start a

2695
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:10,560
family in San Bruno

2696
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,020
because this is the first city I come

2697
01:59:13,020 --> 01:59:16,850
47 years ago

2698
01:59:16,860 --> 01:59:20,099
I have a question for Kevin

2699
01:59:20,099 --> 01:59:23,400
are you doing this whole for profit are

2700
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,860
you doing this for development he said

2701
01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:27,360
no

2702
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,040
it's for the Sun

2703
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,480
for the family

2704
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:33,000
I love it good

2705
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,520
now Mr Murphy about concerned about the

2706
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,980
tree I love tree

2707
01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:40,139
one of the trees I grow

2708
01:59:40,139 --> 01:59:42,719
in San Francisco just blow up

2709
01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:45,179
by the wind two days ago

2710
01:59:45,179 --> 01:59:48,300
37 years ago

2711
01:59:48,300 --> 01:59:50,040
first I wonder

2712
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,580
how much Mr Murphy is low about the tree

2713
01:59:53,580 --> 01:59:55,260
how old is the chick what kind of tree

2714
01:59:55,260 --> 01:59:56,760
is this

2715
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,219
and then secondly about the sunlight

2716
01:59:59,219 --> 02:00:01,139
if I Mr Murphy

2717
02:00:01,139 --> 02:00:03,719
I'll be very kind to the neighborhood

2718
02:00:03,719 --> 02:00:06,060
and tell them don't pan any tall tree

2719
02:00:06,060 --> 02:00:10,920
next to the fans between the both houses

2720
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,920
for the Privacy for the Sun Life well

2721
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:15,719
I'm gonna keep fighting for something

2722
02:00:15,719 --> 02:00:17,880
so minor

2723
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:21,420
which only a few minutes in the winter

2724
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:22,920
time

2725
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:26,159
that's what I want to say and hopefully

2726
02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:29,770
everybody understand

2727
02:00:29,780 --> 02:00:33,530
you want to be about

2728
02:00:33,540 --> 02:00:37,440
home in San Bruno and I hope the city of

2729
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,239
San Bruno willing to accept

2730
02:00:39,239 --> 02:00:42,420
the Bibles of all different people young

2731
02:00:42,420 --> 02:00:45,950
people old people

2732
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:50,820
thank you for your comments next speaker

2733
02:00:50,820 --> 02:00:52,800
please

2734
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,020
no other speaker cards and no remote

2735
02:00:55,020 --> 02:00:57,599
hands are raised okay this is the last

2736
02:00:57,599 --> 02:00:59,699
opportunity for anybody in the audience

2737
02:00:59,699 --> 02:01:02,099
or anyone that is uh watching us via

2738
02:01:02,099 --> 02:01:03,540
Zoom

2739
02:01:03,540 --> 02:01:07,679
it's once we move forward there will be no

2740
02:01:07,679 --> 02:01:10,320
other public comments uh city clerk no

2741
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,000
other hands are raised all right thank

2742
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,500
you and seeing none here in the audience

2743
02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:16,260
to me that is sufficient at this time

2744
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:17,940
what we will do now is we will bring it

2745
02:01:17,940 --> 02:01:20,460
back to the city council for now their

2746
02:01:20,460 --> 02:01:22,560
questions and or deliberation

2747
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,780
interaction

2748
02:01:24,780 --> 02:01:26,400
colleagues

2749
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,980
first we'll go to council member Salazar

2750
02:01:28,980 --> 02:01:30,920
uh before uh

2751
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:35,880
and he comes I I did want to disclose

2752
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:37,980
um relationships as it was advice that

2753
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:40,500
we do and I did want to uh say that I do

2754
02:01:40,500 --> 02:01:42,119
know the McLaughlin's I've known them

2755
02:01:42,119 --> 02:01:44,340
for a long time I've uh worked closely

2756
02:01:44,340 --> 02:01:46,380
with John on on projects since the

2757
02:01:46,380 --> 02:01:49,199
explosion I also uh know Miss Sharon

2758
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:50,699
Baum we've served on a committee

2759
02:01:50,699 --> 02:01:52,280
together to

2760
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,260
Dole out the donations that were given

2761
02:01:55,260 --> 02:01:58,739
as part of that uh donation so I do I do

2762
02:01:58,739 --> 02:02:00,480
know those parties then so I just wanted

2763
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:03,960
to disclose that and I do we're being

2764
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:05,880
and I will say I know the McLaughlin's

2765
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,199
and and maybe it's because I've lived

2766
02:02:07,199 --> 02:02:09,480
around town a long time and uh and for

2767
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:11,880
Miss bomb I also know her she's probably

2768
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:15,960
taught a lot of uh tiny tot uh uh Folks

2769
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:17,699
at the recreation center where I worked

2770
02:02:17,699 --> 02:02:19,020
so

2771
02:02:19,020 --> 02:02:21,540
um now but I have not talked to either

2772
02:02:21,540 --> 02:02:24,179
of them in regards to this project but I

2773
02:02:24,179 --> 02:02:25,679
was I know you didn't hear me I was

2774
02:02:25,679 --> 02:02:27,179
saying I remember for the tiny taught

2775
02:02:27,179 --> 02:02:28,920
teacher at the rec center and I wasn't

2776
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:30,659
employed at the recreation San Bruno

2777
02:02:30,659 --> 02:02:32,400
Parks and Recreation but I did not talk

2778
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,960
to either parties in regards to this

2779
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:35,040
project

2780
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:36,719
is there any other disclosures that wish

2781
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:38,159
to be made

2782
02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:39,659
councilmember Medina

2783
02:02:39,659 --> 02:02:40,980
yes

2784
02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:45,719
um I know Miss Baum I know Mr McLaughlin

2785
02:02:45,719 --> 02:02:47,880
um from their service and from being in

2786
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:50,099
the neighborhood I did take a phone call

2787
02:02:50,099 --> 02:02:53,280
from Mr Murphy regarding this project I

2788
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:54,420
explained

2789
02:02:54,420 --> 02:02:57,119
that I was there to listen

2790
02:02:57,119 --> 02:03:00,900
I did not express an opinion and said I

2791
02:03:00,900 --> 02:03:03,420
was going to wait for this meeting to be

2792
02:03:03,420 --> 02:03:07,080
able to listen to what each side had had

2793
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,900
to say thank you okay thank you for

2794
02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:12,300
starting out Mr Salazar all right with

2795
02:03:12,300 --> 02:03:15,360
that uh we will go to uh again questions

2796
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,280
and deliberations questions from Council

2797
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,320
Members I'm sorry through the mayor um

2798
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,480
I'm sorry I I can't see you but thank

2799
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,000
you uh Vice

2800
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,260
it's fine I know it's difficult to see

2801
02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:27,780
that that so many screens when someone's

2802
02:03:27,780 --> 02:03:30,119
on screen so I I appreciate it

2803
02:03:30,119 --> 02:03:32,400
um I just wanted to uh uh disclose that

2804
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,560
Mr Murphy did contact me by phone as

2805
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:35,580
well

2806
02:03:35,580 --> 02:03:37,679
um to express his concerns

2807
02:03:37,679 --> 02:03:39,780
um I have not met Mr Murphy previously

2808
02:03:39,780 --> 02:03:41,400
uh to the short phone call we had

2809
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:42,719
yesterday

2810
02:03:42,719 --> 02:03:44,760
um and all the uh all the information

2811
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:47,400
presented were were uh was information

2812
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:49,500
that was already available in the packet

2813
02:03:49,500 --> 02:03:52,619
and and presented to us tonight

2814
02:03:52,619 --> 02:03:55,320
um and um I did not ask any

2815
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,420
um ask any questions to and deferred

2816
02:03:57,420 --> 02:04:01,139
that um to to tonight so thank you okay

2817
02:04:01,139 --> 02:04:03,420
thank you all right now back to

2818
02:04:03,420 --> 02:04:04,440
colleagues

2819
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:06,119
um through the mayor may I make an

2820
02:04:06,119 --> 02:04:08,699
announcement if someone is um logged in

2821
02:04:08,699 --> 02:04:11,820
to zoom if you could disconnect the

2822
02:04:11,820 --> 02:04:14,340
microphone feature because I believe

2823
02:04:14,340 --> 02:04:22,250
that there is a echo due to that

2824
02:04:22,260 --> 02:04:26,219
okay yeah okay all right uh I'm gonna go

2825
02:04:26,219 --> 02:04:28,860
ahead and proceed okay thank you so

2826
02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:31,380
again Council this is your time for the

2827
02:04:31,380 --> 02:04:36,050
questions and deliberations colleagues

2828
02:04:36,060 --> 02:04:38,159
council member Salazar I guess I'll

2829
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:39,599
start

2830
02:04:39,599 --> 02:04:40,679
um

2831
02:04:40,679 --> 02:04:43,260
so it is unfortunate that we're at this

2832
02:04:43,260 --> 02:04:45,480
point it is uh it's always nice when

2833
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,580
neighbors can find a mutual uh

2834
02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:49,679
Arrangement up front and it doesn't have

2835
02:04:49,679 --> 02:04:51,599
to come to this but

2836
02:04:51,599 --> 02:04:54,780
um I I also realize that San Bruno is

2837
02:04:54,780 --> 02:04:57,840
completely built out and every project

2838
02:04:57,840 --> 02:04:59,820
that comes before the Planning

2839
02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:02,219
Commission is probably going to be a

2840
02:05:02,219 --> 02:05:03,840
second floor Edition

2841
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,199
and it's uh almost impossible to do one

2842
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:08,699
of those without having some sort of

2843
02:05:08,699 --> 02:05:09,920
impact

2844
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,300
so it is a

2845
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:14,639
I understand it's a sensitive situation

2846
02:05:14,639 --> 02:05:17,099
and there are you know people making

2847
02:05:17,099 --> 02:05:19,500
Investments uh with expectation that

2848
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:21,599
they can do things uh We've set out

2849
02:05:21,599 --> 02:05:24,360
guidelines as a city that permit certain

2850
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:25,219
things

2851
02:05:25,219 --> 02:05:28,199
and those guidelines don't necessarily

2852
02:05:28,199 --> 02:05:31,380
have every potential impact

2853
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:33,719
played out and so that there are

2854
02:05:33,719 --> 02:05:37,320
situations that could be disadvantageous

2855
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,560
uh there was a proposal

2856
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:45,599
um that the um that Mr Murphy uh uh

2857
02:05:45,599 --> 02:05:47,400
suggested that could potentially

2858
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:50,340
minimize the shadowing even further and

2859
02:05:50,340 --> 02:05:52,860
so my question to staff

2860
02:05:52,860 --> 02:05:56,639
um first is uh were those uh

2861
02:05:56,639 --> 02:05:58,760
modifications

2862
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,619
proposed and reviewed by the Planning

2863
02:06:01,619 --> 02:06:04,500
Commission and could something like that

2864
02:06:04,500 --> 02:06:07,739
be accomplished with uh minimal impact

2865
02:06:07,739 --> 02:06:17,990
to the project cost

2866
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,400
please go ahead and you're welcome to

2867
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:21,840
stay up there too just in case there are

2868
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:27,790
questions please yes

2869
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:31,139
okay there we go yes uh thank you

2870
02:06:31,139 --> 02:06:33,540
council member the uh the the diagram

2871
02:06:33,540 --> 02:06:37,080
that uh the appellant showed uh with the

2872
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,960
image we believe is new but the but the

2873
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:42,500
idea of

2874
02:06:42,500 --> 02:06:45,719
rearranging the where the addition is

2875
02:06:45,719 --> 02:06:48,179
being put is something I was raised at

2876
02:06:48,179 --> 02:06:51,370
prior meetings

2877
02:06:51,380 --> 02:06:52,920
the

2878
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,679
that would be pretty much a complete

2879
02:06:55,679 --> 02:06:58,980
redesign it is not completely outside

2880
02:06:58,980 --> 02:07:02,520
the realm of of possibility but they're

2881
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,040
certainly added at a time in cost to the

2882
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:11,930
applicant

2883
02:07:11,940 --> 02:07:13,619
thank you

2884
02:07:13,619 --> 02:07:15,960
all right uh Mr Salazar has concluded

2885
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:22,609
other questions uh from colleagues

2886
02:07:22,619 --> 02:07:24,960
uh through the mayor uh vice mayor

2887
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,580
Hamilton

2888
02:07:26,580 --> 02:07:28,920
thank you so

2889
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,550
um

2890
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:33,780
council member Salazar is correct this

2891
02:07:33,780 --> 02:07:36,239
is that this is uh unfortunate to have

2892
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:36,960
to

2893
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,880
um to come here because you know

2894
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:40,860
regardless of the decision made tonight

2895
02:07:40,860 --> 02:07:43,139
you know there's going to be

2896
02:07:43,139 --> 02:07:45,119
um a severe disappointment on one side

2897
02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:46,560
so it's it's

2898
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:50,520
um uh it's it's unfortunate but this is

2899
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:52,800
um that's come to this

2900
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:56,760
so you know through the through the

2901
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,159
um initial staff report and then the two

2902
02:07:59,159 --> 02:08:02,300
presentations we're getting a lot of

2903
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:04,619
conflicting information about the

2904
02:08:04,619 --> 02:08:06,300
shading about what you know what what

2905
02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:09,480
the actual impact is and

2906
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:11,340
it's

2907
02:08:11,340 --> 02:08:13,619
the the presentation that we received

2908
02:08:13,619 --> 02:08:16,619
from the um from the applicant

2909
02:08:16,619 --> 02:08:17,460
um

2910
02:08:17,460 --> 02:08:20,179
you know there's you know seem to

2911
02:08:20,179 --> 02:08:22,199
demonstrate that there's you know

2912
02:08:22,199 --> 02:08:23,340
there's already a lot of there's already

2913
02:08:23,340 --> 02:08:25,139
a lot of shading as it is right now even

2914
02:08:25,139 --> 02:08:28,560
without any addition and you know the

2915
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,719
um the additional shade that will be

2916
02:08:30,719 --> 02:08:33,719
provided there has staff

2917
02:08:33,719 --> 02:08:37,380
analyzed that and to verify that the

2918
02:08:37,380 --> 02:08:41,689
accuracy of that

2919
02:08:41,699 --> 02:08:44,820
Mr vice mayor uh we have we have looked

2920
02:08:44,820 --> 02:08:46,980
at the data we've looked at the diagrams

2921
02:08:46,980 --> 02:08:49,860
uh we have not looked into the math and

2922
02:08:49,860 --> 02:08:52,440
the engineering and and calculations

2923
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:56,040
involved but the results do appear to be

2924
02:08:56,040 --> 02:09:00,480
what we would think they would be uh

2925
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:02,880
looking at these type of shade and

2926
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:04,500
Shadow studies are not actually an

2927
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:07,080
application requirement and and thus

2928
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,000
this is was kind of an extra ask of the

2929
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:10,980
Planning Commission uh and it's not

2930
02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:16,380
something that we have the capacity to truly go out and

2931
02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:19,080
verify unless uh we were to hire a

2932
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:22,020
consultant to peer review uh

2933
02:09:22,020 --> 02:09:24,659
that work

2934
02:09:24,659 --> 02:09:26,280
I understood

2935
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:27,719
and then

2936
02:09:27,719 --> 02:09:30,480
um I'm sorry you know vice mayor do you

2937
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:32,280
and I'm and I know the remote makes it a

2938
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:34,860
pause here can you just mind holding the

2939
02:09:34,860 --> 02:09:37,920
city manager had wanted to add something

2940
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:41,040
certainly thank you Andrew I just wanted

2941
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:44,280
to note that um in the appellants

2942
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:47,340
presentation there was a picture of what

2943
02:09:47,340 --> 02:09:50,820
the shading is today uh which did align

2944
02:09:50,820 --> 02:09:53,639
very much to the data that was presented

2945
02:09:53,639 --> 02:09:56,460
by the applicant showing that their

2946
02:09:56,460 --> 02:09:58,800
today without the addition there is a

2947
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,260
lot of shading just from the existing

2948
02:10:01,260 --> 02:10:04,320
first story in the winter at

2949
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:07,380
approximately 9 A.M and so

2950
02:10:07,380 --> 02:10:09,719
the council member or vice mayor

2951
02:10:09,719 --> 02:10:11,460
mentioned that there appeared to be a

2952
02:10:11,460 --> 02:10:14,340
incongruence in some of the data but in

2953
02:10:14,340 --> 02:10:17,159
what we saw today from both the

2954
02:10:17,159 --> 02:10:18,780
appellant and the applicant I think

2955
02:10:18,780 --> 02:10:20,340
there was congruence that there is

2956
02:10:20,340 --> 02:10:23,340
significant shading during the winter on

2957
02:10:23,340 --> 02:10:27,920
most of the side slash rear yard

2958
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:31,199
at around 9 A.M and so that's just with

2959
02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:33,060
one story yes it will be slightly

2960
02:10:33,060 --> 02:10:34,920
increased but from the picture that I

2961
02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:37,080
think we all saw their significant

2962
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:39,540
shading already

2963
02:10:39,540 --> 02:10:41,699
yeah and thank you city manager uh thank

2964
02:10:41,699 --> 02:10:43,980
you for uh pausing uh vice mayor please

2965
02:10:43,980 --> 02:10:44,880
go ahead

2966
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:48,239
sure and then the the other um concern

2967
02:10:48,239 --> 02:10:50,940
regarding privacy

2968
02:10:50,940 --> 02:10:54,980
um in the appallance uh presentation

2969
02:10:54,980 --> 02:10:58,619
not a lot of time was was spent there um

2970
02:10:58,619 --> 02:11:00,659
except to say that a window it was

2971
02:11:00,659 --> 02:11:03,480
basically that a window is a window

2972
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:05,400
um the

2973
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,320
you know in my time on the on the

2974
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:08,460
Planning Commission I served on the

2975
02:11:08,460 --> 02:11:09,840
Planning Commission before

2976
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,060
um joining the city council

2977
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:14,400
um you know it was like it was a fairly

2978
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,500
common practice in these situations

2979
02:11:16,500 --> 02:11:19,320
where you've got a a two-story Edition

2980
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,500
going up next to a one-story

2981
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:24,840
um uh neighbor

2982
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:27,780
to do these clustery windows with the

2983
02:11:27,780 --> 02:11:31,800
high high sill meaning that through the

2984
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:33,119
normal

2985
02:11:33,119 --> 02:11:36,719
you know usage of of a room unless

2986
02:11:36,719 --> 02:11:39,000
you're unless you're

2987
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:39,900
um

2988
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:43,380
tall and or you know deliberately

2989
02:11:43,380 --> 02:11:45,540
looking up out the window you're not

2990
02:11:45,540 --> 02:11:47,639
going to be you know gazing down into

2991
02:11:47,639 --> 02:11:49,020
your into your neighbor's yard and this

2992
02:11:49,020 --> 02:11:51,540
is a this is a fairly common

2993
02:11:51,540 --> 02:11:54,840
um uh mitigation that that we've seen on

2994
02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:56,219
these editions

2995
02:11:56,219 --> 02:11:57,719
um councilman Salazar was correct you

2996
02:11:57,719 --> 02:12:00,420
know whenever you're doing a uh a

2997
02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:02,280
two-story addition next to a one story

2998
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:05,219
home there's going to be impacts and

2999
02:12:05,219 --> 02:12:06,540
um

3000
02:12:06,540 --> 02:12:08,520
I would have liked to have seen a little

3001
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:10,390
more you know

3002
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:12,480
[Music]

3003
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:14,760
I guess uh

3004
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,880
opinion or evidence on on the the

3005
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:21,480
Privacy impact after the the change of

3006
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:23,880
the windows

3007
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:25,860
um I guess that's it for me for for now

3008
02:12:25,860 --> 02:12:29,510
thank you

3009
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:32,639
other questions uh councilmember Alvarez

3010
02:12:32,639 --> 02:12:33,659
please

3011
02:12:33,659 --> 02:12:34,980
Mr Mayor

3012
02:12:34,980 --> 02:12:36,599
um I just want to add that I agree with

3013
02:12:36,599 --> 02:12:38,940
the city manager I believe that the

3014
02:12:38,940 --> 02:12:42,000
applicant has presented their case very

3015
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:42,860
well

3016
02:12:42,860 --> 02:12:46,380
with regards to the orientation of the

3017
02:12:46,380 --> 02:12:47,119
sun

3018
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:54,659
compared to the summer summer season and winter the orientation of the sun is

3019
02:12:54,659 --> 02:12:57,000
basically in in between that's why on

3020
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,579
the presentation of of the applicant

3021
02:12:59,579 --> 02:13:03,780
basically shows very little Shadow so I

3022
02:13:03,780 --> 02:13:05,280
don't see any

3023
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:08,699
um any uh big impact on the shadowing

3024
02:13:08,699 --> 02:13:12,719
issue for the purpose Edition when it

3025
02:13:12,719 --> 02:13:16,199
comes to the uh the Privacy I think the

3026
02:13:16,199 --> 02:13:17,820
optigan had

3027
02:13:17,820 --> 02:13:18,800
um

3028
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,900
meant that you know all the requests

3029
02:13:21,900 --> 02:13:25,199
from from the repellent

3030
02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:26,579
um just to

3031
02:13:26,579 --> 02:13:28,980
you know um

3032
02:13:28,980 --> 02:13:31,380
give the uh the height a little bit

3033
02:13:31,380 --> 02:13:35,159
higher and and also um based on what um

3034
02:13:35,159 --> 02:13:37,380
vice mayor Hamilton mentioned that

3035
02:13:37,380 --> 02:13:39,840
unless you're tall and your intention is

3036
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:41,639
to look down

3037
02:13:41,639 --> 02:13:46,139
um I don't think it would be an issue on the Privacy matter

3038
02:13:46,139 --> 02:13:48,540
with one addition we have a regular

3039
02:13:48,540 --> 02:13:51,659
window that basically anybody can look

3040
02:13:51,659 --> 02:13:53,579
at and through the through the through

3041
02:13:53,579 --> 02:13:56,219
the neighbor and we don't see that being

3042
02:13:56,219 --> 02:13:59,219
an issue as for privacy issue because

3043
02:13:59,219 --> 02:14:03,060
it's it's a an eye level a high level of

3044
02:14:03,060 --> 02:14:07,020
an individual so I don't see any um

3045
02:14:07,020 --> 02:14:09,960
issue when it comes to the Privacy

3046
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:12,119
either based on on the applicant's

3047
02:14:12,119 --> 02:14:15,060
presentation thank you

3048
02:14:15,060 --> 02:14:16,739
any other questions or comments

3049
02:14:16,739 --> 02:14:18,780
councilmember Medina yes thank you Mr

3050
02:14:18,780 --> 02:14:19,800
Mayor

3051
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,500
um I think

3052
02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:25,260
my colleagues covered a lot

3053
02:14:25,260 --> 02:14:27,060
um

3054
02:14:27,060 --> 02:14:31,139
of the concerns and and the real reality

3055
02:14:31,139 --> 02:14:33,599
that when somebody's building a second

3056
02:14:33,599 --> 02:14:35,460
story Edition

3057
02:14:35,460 --> 02:14:37,500
and I can tell you from personal

3058
02:14:37,500 --> 02:14:39,300
experience it's happening at my house

3059
02:14:39,300 --> 02:14:41,060
right now

3060
02:14:41,060 --> 02:14:43,800
the applicant is

3061
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:45,900
they're building the house and as I look

3062
02:14:45,900 --> 02:14:50,159
up I'm I'm like wow that didn't look

3063
02:14:50,159 --> 02:14:51,599
like that on the plans and I could

3064
02:14:51,599 --> 02:14:53,699
understand that

3065
02:14:53,699 --> 02:14:58,380
because property owners have rights

3066
02:14:58,380 --> 02:15:00,420
to have a second story we have the

3067
02:15:00,420 --> 02:15:01,560
guidelines

3068
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:03,900
that attempt to

3069
02:15:03,900 --> 02:15:05,820
create

3070
02:15:05,820 --> 02:15:09,780
more of a acceptable level

3071
02:15:09,780 --> 02:15:11,340
and the key words that I'm looking at

3072
02:15:11,340 --> 02:15:13,440
here are

3073
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:14,940
um minimize

3074
02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:18,420
and reduce step back

3075
02:15:18,420 --> 02:15:21,599
um and has met the daylight plane

3076
02:15:21,599 --> 02:15:22,800
guideline

3077
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:26,099
and that's what I'm feeling is probably

3078
02:15:26,099 --> 02:15:27,900
one of the most important thing here is

3079
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:31,320
this is our guideline

3080
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:34,440
um so I my question would be to staff

3081
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,079
and also to explain to the public this

3082
02:15:37,079 --> 02:15:38,940
is the first time in seven years that

3083
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:44,400
I've I've sat in on a an appeal of of a

3084
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:47,159
property it doesn't happen very often

3085
02:15:47,159 --> 02:15:48,500
so

3086
02:15:48,500 --> 02:15:54,300
reducing compared to minimizing is a really really strong

3087
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:55,860
word

3088
02:15:55,860 --> 02:15:56,460
um

3089
02:15:56,460 --> 02:15:57,659
but

3090
02:15:57,659 --> 02:16:00,960
legally I would like to hear from our

3091
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:03,840
City attorney about

3092
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:04,860
um

3093
02:16:04,860 --> 02:16:08,219
those those words because I believe that

3094
02:16:08,219 --> 02:16:11,579
the attempt to reduce and someone could

3095
02:16:11,579 --> 02:16:13,920
say to minimize

3096
02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:16,139
um has been made

3097
02:16:16,139 --> 02:16:19,980
now if if it was possible

3098
02:16:19,980 --> 02:16:23,579
um to move the house a little further

3099
02:16:23,579 --> 02:16:24,780
over

3100
02:16:24,780 --> 02:16:27,179
during the second round that would have

3101
02:16:27,179 --> 02:16:29,219
probably been Optimum

3102
02:16:29,219 --> 02:16:31,500
um I understand the the idea about the

3103
02:16:31,500 --> 02:16:33,899
windows as well because looking out of

3104
02:16:33,899 --> 02:16:36,179
my bedroom window I can see there's a

3105
02:16:36,179 --> 02:16:38,460
window on the on the the house that's

3106
02:16:38,460 --> 02:16:41,219
next door but

3107
02:16:41,219 --> 02:16:44,700
houses need to have Windows and it's

3108
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:47,160
just something to be aware of and and

3109
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:53,939
it's more of a reality so I think I've just wanted to to bounce to the

3110
02:16:53,939 --> 02:16:56,639
legal side of things to make sure those

3111
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,460
are covered and that the effort has been

3112
02:16:59,460 --> 02:17:01,380
made

3113
02:17:01,380 --> 02:17:03,719
by meeting the guideline which wasn't

3114
02:17:03,719 --> 02:17:05,040
met before

3115
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:06,599
and

3116
02:17:06,599 --> 02:17:10,460
um the accuracy

3117
02:17:10,460 --> 02:17:13,260
because it's kind of a I agree with the

3118
02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:15,359
vice mayor said we heard kind of two

3119
02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:17,340
different things that it was it barely

3120
02:17:17,340 --> 02:17:20,280
reduced it but hearing from the

3121
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:22,260
applicant that the shades are already

3122
02:17:22,260 --> 02:17:23,880
there

3123
02:17:23,880 --> 02:17:25,559
um so

3124
02:17:25,559 --> 02:17:29,219
just one second so let's see how that

3125
02:17:29,219 --> 02:17:31,679
goes if you don't mind Mr no no Trisha

3126
02:17:31,679 --> 02:17:34,200
Ortiz City attorney so

3127
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,120
um I will probably kick it back over to

3128
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:38,099
staff to discuss the guidelines but I

3129
02:17:38,099 --> 02:17:39,599
think what you're talking about were the

3130
02:17:39,599 --> 02:17:41,700
guidelines which aren't necessarily the

3131
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:43,620
legal parameters the legal parameters

3132
02:17:43,620 --> 02:17:45,559
are when we look at

3133
02:17:45,559 --> 02:17:49,080
approving the project which is you have

3134
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:51,840
to be able to make the findings that are

3135
02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:54,479
in your code and those are the findings

3136
02:17:54,479 --> 02:17:57,300
that have all been laid out in the staff

3137
02:17:57,300 --> 02:18:00,719
report as well as the resolution so

3138
02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:02,820
um I think the guidelines it's probably

3139
02:18:02,820 --> 02:18:04,740
more appropriate for staff to talk about

3140
02:18:04,740 --> 02:18:09,300
how they view the guidelines because as they were saying they're not hard and

3141
02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:11,099
fast rules they are just what they say

3142
02:18:11,099 --> 02:18:13,200
they are which is guidelines and you

3143
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:15,719
look to okay factually how do we apply

3144
02:18:15,719 --> 02:18:17,880
these guidelines what's the practice and

3145
02:18:17,880 --> 02:18:21,830
things like that

3146
02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:28,070
foreign

3147
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:31,859
they're both going to the same way

3148
02:18:31,859 --> 02:18:34,920
um it it doesn't say come up again

3149
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:38,820
um but if uh respond further yes I have

3150
02:18:38,820 --> 02:18:42,059
noted that when you do a second story

3151
02:18:42,059 --> 02:18:45,840
you are going to have impacts

3152
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,240
and that and so

3153
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:52,080
um if the intent of the guidelines were

3154
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:55,200
to minimize to zero then there would be

3155
02:18:55,200 --> 02:19:00,599
these these number of guidelines

3156
02:19:00,599 --> 02:19:04,979
suggesting wholesale avoid one is you

3157
02:19:04,979 --> 02:19:06,359
have a two-story wall and you have an

3158
02:19:06,359 --> 02:19:09,359
offset on it the other is is the

3159
02:19:09,359 --> 02:19:11,179
daylight plane

3160
02:19:11,179 --> 02:19:13,979
one of the statements of of the

3161
02:19:13,979 --> 02:19:15,420
appellant is the daylight plane isn't

3162
02:19:15,420 --> 02:19:19,009
doing enough

3163
02:19:19,019 --> 02:19:21,120
the daylight plane reflects what the

3164
02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:24,179
council in 2010 said was enough it's a

3165
02:19:24,179 --> 02:19:26,099
big document and as I said there's a

3166
02:19:26,099 --> 02:19:28,260
number of guidelines and you really have

3167
02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:30,780
to take a look at the whole package all

3168
02:19:30,780 --> 02:19:31,760
together

3169
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:34,559
knowing that perfectly meeting every

3170
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:36,240
guideline is probably never going to

3171
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:39,000
happen but are you meeting the intent

3172
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:49,550
are you doing as much as what a update

3173
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:51,780
now you answered the question I mean

3174
02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:56,180
thank you I think my colleague said

3175
02:19:56,180 --> 02:19:58,439
asked most of the questions and that was

3176
02:19:58,439 --> 02:20:02,160
about the the shadowing and there was two topics that came up Mr

3177
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:03,780
Murphy was the shadowing and the privacy

3178
02:20:03,780 --> 02:20:05,580
and I and I a lot of time was spent on

3179
02:20:05,580 --> 02:20:06,899
the shadowing

3180
02:20:06,899 --> 02:20:08,580
um and I know that there is going to be

3181
02:20:08,580 --> 02:20:10,979
an effect it's

3182
02:20:10,979 --> 02:20:13,859
as was stated earlier a one story and a

3183
02:20:13,859 --> 02:20:16,080
two-story there's an effect in which and

3184
02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:18,060
it's trying to minimize it's not going

3185
02:20:18,060 --> 02:20:20,580
to ever eliminate and I think

3186
02:20:20,580 --> 02:20:22,200
um in my time here I'm trying to think

3187
02:20:22,200 --> 02:20:23,939
of and also an appeal that's come

3188
02:20:23,939 --> 02:20:25,200
forward

3189
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:26,520
um

3190
02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:29,880
I share Mr Murphy's concerns because his

3191
02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:32,040
movie may not be an option and and

3192
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:34,320
building is and I do know there are that

3193
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:37,320
those things do occur what I do to try

3194
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:39,060
to meet somewhere

3195
02:20:39,060 --> 02:20:42,359
um but in which that I do appreciate

3196
02:20:42,359 --> 02:20:43,800
that we're making a statement that I

3197
02:20:43,800 --> 02:20:45,359
didn't have any questions there are no

3198
02:20:45,359 --> 02:20:47,460
more questions from Council council

3199
02:20:47,460 --> 02:20:49,620
member Salazar yes so

3200
02:20:49,620 --> 02:20:50,700
um

3201
02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:53,460
there was a an initial design that was

3202
02:20:53,460 --> 02:20:55,200
rejected by the Planning Commission and

3203
02:20:55,200 --> 02:21:00,780
then a subsequent one and what was the

3204
02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:04,020
um the measurement that was that made

3205
02:21:04,020 --> 02:21:05,160
the difference for the Planning

3206
02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:07,319
Commission what what did they see the

3207
02:21:07,319 --> 02:21:09,479
one thing I think it was a combination

3208
02:21:09,479 --> 02:21:12,420
of of items uh and when you take

3209
02:21:12,420 --> 02:21:14,720
together pushing the Second Story wall

3210
02:21:14,720 --> 02:21:18,060
further away from the neighbor and

3211
02:21:18,060 --> 02:21:20,280
meeting the daylight plane bringing the

3212
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,640
height down a little bit and shortening

3213
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:26,399
the length of that Second Story

3214
02:21:26,399 --> 02:21:29,939
I I think the Planning Commission looked

3215
02:21:29,939 --> 02:21:32,100
at well you know if you put

3216
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:34,080
there really isn't much more to do other

3217
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,000
than uh

3218
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,399
prescribe that it the second story has

3219
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:41,460
to be in a certain place which uh I

3220
02:21:41,460 --> 02:21:43,680
believe our Planning Commission didn't

3221
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:46,560
believe was appropriate in this case to

3222
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:52,010
force the applicant to do that

3223
02:21:52,020 --> 02:21:54,120
no further questions for staff

3224
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:56,580
um I'll ask if please feel free to sit

3225
02:21:56,580 --> 02:22:00,899
down anything else from uh okay so we're

3226
02:22:00,899 --> 02:22:02,880
back to the point of uh our deliberation

3227
02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:05,040
and our action

3228
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:07,680
um I'm gonna ask the City attorney uh

3229
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:12,660
just so you can State I mean I know the approving would overturn the appeal

3230
02:22:12,660 --> 02:22:13,979
but I just want to make it abundantly

3231
02:22:13,979 --> 02:22:16,800
clear yeah mayor Medina City Council

3232
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:20,880
Members the motion to approve the

3233
02:22:20,880 --> 02:22:24,660
resolution would be a motion to approve

3234
02:22:24,660 --> 02:22:27,710
the project

3235
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:30,540
there are alternative uh courses of

3236
02:22:30,540 --> 02:22:33,720
action that the staff has outlined in

3237
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,899
the staff report which means for denial

3238
02:22:36,899 --> 02:22:38,819
or you could

3239
02:22:38,819 --> 02:22:40,920
request that the appellant that the

3240
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:42,899
applicant makes certain modifications to

3241
02:22:42,899 --> 02:22:44,640
the project design and refer the project

3242
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:46,979
back to the Planning Commission but the

3243
02:22:46,979 --> 02:22:49,140
recommended motion is to approve the

3244
02:22:49,140 --> 02:22:51,540
resolution which would approve the

3245
02:22:51,540 --> 02:22:52,979
project and provide the necessary

3246
02:22:52,979 --> 02:22:54,840
findings

3247
02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:56,220
thank you very much for doing I just

3248
02:22:56,220 --> 02:22:58,800
wanted us all to understand what action

3249
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:00,720
and what that will interpret and mean

3250
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:04,859
for it so is there any uh action

3251
02:23:04,859 --> 02:23:06,960
from the council in regards to this

3252
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:14,510
appeal

3253
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,800
chair I'm sorry council member Salazar

3254
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:20,340
yeah and um as I stated earlier it is uh

3255
02:23:20,340 --> 02:23:22,200
regrettable when neighbors have

3256
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:24,660
conflicts like these but based on the

3257
02:23:24,660 --> 02:23:27,500
fact that uh the Planning Commission

3258
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:30,680
who has the expertise in this

3259
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:33,720
approved and I have to make a motion to

3260
02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:35,580
um to approve

3261
02:23:35,580 --> 02:23:38,880
the resolution as it's presented

3262
02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:42,479
is there hold on no and uh you you've

3263
02:23:42,479 --> 02:23:45,300
had your your time and I'm I'm sorry uh

3264
02:23:45,300 --> 02:23:46,979
there's a motion on the floor is there a

3265
02:23:46,979 --> 02:23:48,840
second I'm sorry a second

3266
02:23:48,840 --> 02:23:51,240
okay and I apologize Mr Murphy

3267
02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:54,479
um uh motion by Salazar seconded by

3268
02:23:54,479 --> 02:23:55,979
Alvarez is everybody understand the

3269
02:23:55,979 --> 02:23:57,300
motion

3270
02:23:57,300 --> 02:24:00,420
then there will be a roll call please

3271
02:24:00,420 --> 02:24:04,260
councilmember Alvarez yes council member

3272
02:24:04,260 --> 02:24:07,319
Marty Medina yes council member Salazar

3273
02:24:07,319 --> 02:24:10,140
yes vice mayor Hamilton

3274
02:24:10,140 --> 02:24:15,290
yes mayor Rico Medina yes

3275
02:24:15,300 --> 02:24:17,640
the resolution of motion has passed by a

3276
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:20,100
5-0 vote thank you for your time here

3277
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:24,180
thank you for your your input

3278
02:24:24,180 --> 02:24:28,200
and with that yes sir sorry sir I'm

3279
02:24:28,200 --> 02:24:31,610
sorry sorry

3280
02:24:31,620 --> 02:24:33,120
um with that

3281
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um a five minute break to do that and

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then we will come back

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so we will be in recess for five minutes

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to allow everybody to depart and our get

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settled for the next uh situation or the

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02:24:44,939 --> 02:25:14,230
next part of the agenda thank you

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thank you

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okay

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all right thank you for your patience

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we're back from our recess and we are

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now going to be on item 8 and it will be

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the study session

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oh hi Darcy Smith assistant city manager

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02:40:08,939 --> 02:40:10,680
hold on hold on

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um the assistant city manager was very

3345
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:14,640
excited for this topic but let's uh

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02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:15,780
we'll have the city clerk read it and

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02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:16,500
then we'll turn it over to the assistant

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02:40:16,500 --> 02:40:18,840
city manager

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02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:21,359
item 8A conduct study session and

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02:40:21,359 --> 02:40:23,040
provide comments on the draft safe

3351
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:25,800
routes to school plan

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02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:28,200
yes this is a very exciting item that

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02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:29,460
we've been waiting for for a while

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02:40:29,460 --> 02:40:31,859
because safe routes to school is very

3355
02:40:31,859 --> 02:40:33,120
important to everyone in the community

3356
02:40:33,120 --> 02:40:36,060
it affects us all so with that I'll turn

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02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:37,620
over to Matt Lee our Public Works

3358
02:40:37,620 --> 02:40:39,899
director who's gonna kick off this item

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02:40:39,899 --> 02:40:44,340
and I apologize I know it's late it's a long item but we have a lot of

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02:40:44,340 --> 02:40:45,840
really meaty details that we wanted to

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02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:47,100
present to you as this is a study

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02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:48,540
session

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02:40:48,540 --> 02:40:50,939
thank you thank you Mr Lee good evening

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02:40:50,939 --> 02:40:53,280
mayor Medina members Council uh like

3365
02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:55,380
assistant city manager Smith said this

3366
02:40:55,380 --> 02:40:56,939
is a very exciting item I'm actually

3367
02:40:56,939 --> 02:40:59,040
excited about it too it's a long time

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02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:01,439
coming uh it's about a year in the

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02:41:01,439 --> 02:41:02,399
making

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um and the study session is for the safe

3371
02:41:05,160 --> 02:41:07,200
routes to school plan which I think we

3372
02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:09,780
all can agree on uh which is making safe

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02:41:09,780 --> 02:41:12,660
routes for children's to to walk or find

3374
02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:14,160
alternative modes of transportation to

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02:41:14,160 --> 02:41:17,520
school I am going to be here tonight to

3376
02:41:17,520 --> 02:41:19,740
kind of set the stage for the plan

3377
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:21,600
itself I have Jeff Knowles here from

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02:41:21,600 --> 02:41:23,700
Alta planning to kind of go through the

3379
02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:25,319
meat and potatoes of the of the

3380
02:41:25,319 --> 02:41:28,740
presentation itself and Anna Morales of

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02:41:28,740 --> 02:41:30,359
our team to be able to answer any

3382
02:41:30,359 --> 02:41:32,819
questions later if you guys have it

3383
02:41:32,819 --> 02:41:35,160
uh in terms of the agenda like I said

3384
02:41:35,160 --> 02:41:36,660
we're going to go through those items

3385
02:41:36,660 --> 02:41:39,780
what I wanted to do was to actually talk

3386
02:41:39,780 --> 02:41:42,780
about the background uh as you all know

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02:41:42,780 --> 02:41:45,840
uh the city was awarded a Caltrans Grant

3388
02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:50,520
in 2020 of approximately 250 000 uh that

3389
02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:52,740
Grant was to allow us to develop a

3390
02:41:52,740 --> 02:41:54,359
city-wide safe route to school plan

3391
02:41:54,359 --> 02:41:58,319
which was uh developed within this past

3392
02:41:58,319 --> 02:42:01,220
year starting back in November 2021

3393
02:42:01,220 --> 02:42:05,180
this plan is actually a really great

3394
02:42:05,180 --> 02:42:07,620
example of how the community can come

3395
02:42:07,620 --> 02:42:09,780
together and develop a plan that works

3396
02:42:09,780 --> 02:42:11,640
for everybody it involved multiple

3397
02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:14,760
stakeholders various schools and members

3398
02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:15,859
of the community

3399
02:42:15,859 --> 02:42:19,560
so without further Ado I would like to

3400
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:22,200
bring Jeff Knowles up to talk about the

3401
02:42:22,200 --> 02:42:24,479
plan itself

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02:42:24,479 --> 02:42:25,819
foreign

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welcome and thank you for your patience

3404
02:42:28,080 --> 02:42:30,240
thank you thank you members of council

3405
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:32,100
mayor of staff and members of the public

3406
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:33,240
who are joining us my name is Jeff

3407
02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:35,100
Knowles I'm with Alta planning and

3408
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:36,420
design of principal and our Oakland

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02:42:36,420 --> 02:42:38,520
office it's been my pleasure to be be

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02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:40,560
your project manager in the safe routes

3411
02:42:40,560 --> 02:42:43,429
to school plan

3412
02:42:43,439 --> 02:42:45,479
my agenda tonight is to walk you through

3413
02:42:45,479 --> 02:42:47,399
the project overview talk about the

3414
02:42:47,399 --> 02:42:49,439
safety analysis that was conducted the

3415
02:42:49,439 --> 02:42:50,880
community engagement that we went

3416
02:42:50,880 --> 02:42:53,220
through for this plan uh the walk Audits

3417
02:42:53,220 --> 02:42:54,780
and then really get into the findings

3418
02:42:54,780 --> 02:42:56,580
recommendations that were prioritized

3419
02:42:56,580 --> 02:42:58,080
and then Matt's going to come back and

3420
02:42:58,080 --> 02:42:59,760
talk to you about next steps and where

3421
02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:02,750
you go from here

3422
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:04,800
to the project overview

3423
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,600
favorites to school is a comprehensive

3424
02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:08,399
program to make school communities safer

3425
02:43:08,399 --> 02:43:10,500
especially for people students who are

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02:43:10,500 --> 02:43:13,500
walking or bicycling we do that by a

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02:43:13,500 --> 02:43:15,899
combination of engineering Solutions and

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education and encouragement activities

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02:43:17,460 --> 02:43:19,500
that will hopefully encourage people to

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take that active choice

3431
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:25,500
the project involved objective data

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02:43:25,500 --> 02:43:28,200
analysis focused on safety listening to

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02:43:28,200 --> 02:43:29,939
Community member concerns and their

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02:43:29,939 --> 02:43:32,520
ideas observing traffic patterns and

3435
02:43:32,520 --> 02:43:33,899
behavior

3436
02:43:33,899 --> 02:43:35,580
based on those findings we developed

3437
02:43:35,580 --> 02:43:37,920
priority Improvement recommendations

3438
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:40,260
the plan is not funded or commits the

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02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:42,840
city to any funding rather it sets the

3440
02:43:42,840 --> 02:43:45,060
city up to make wise Investments and

3441
02:43:45,060 --> 02:43:46,680
compete for grant funding from the

3442
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:50,220
county from MTC and other state funding

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02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:53,809
sources

3444
02:43:53,819 --> 02:43:56,600
we partnered with many schools Bel Air

3445
02:43:56,600 --> 02:44:00,359
Allen Rollingwood John Muir and Portola

3446
02:44:00,359 --> 02:44:02,880
elementary schools Parkside intermediate

3447
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:05,100
cappuccino high and St Robert Catholic

3448
02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:08,160
Palos Verdes and El Portal schools we

3449
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:09,479
also there are a couple schools that

3450
02:44:09,479 --> 02:44:11,040
were partially participating that means

3451
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:12,180
they were involved that we had

3452
02:44:12,180 --> 02:44:13,920
recommendations but we didn't they

3453
02:44:13,920 --> 02:44:15,479
didn't get the full Suite of involvement

3454
02:44:15,479 --> 02:44:17,819
Highlands Christian School Stratford and

3455
02:44:17,819 --> 02:44:20,880
monteverdi were three they were added as

3456
02:44:20,880 --> 02:44:23,929
parsley participating

3457
02:44:23,939 --> 02:44:27,420
started oops excuse me

3458
02:44:27,420 --> 02:44:29,280
we started this process in Winter of

3459
02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:31,140
2022 where the schools were identified

3460
02:44:31,140 --> 02:44:33,720
we had our first Community Workshop in

3461
02:44:33,720 --> 02:44:35,600
the spring we conducted our walk audits

3462
02:44:35,600 --> 02:44:38,520
we initiated our community surveys we

3463
02:44:38,520 --> 02:44:40,439
met with ptos and ptas that's

3464
02:44:40,439 --> 02:44:42,060
parent-teacher organizations and

3465
02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:44,580
associations and started identify draft

3466
02:44:44,580 --> 02:44:47,100
recommendations

3467
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:49,380
in the summer we gathered input on those

3468
02:44:49,380 --> 02:44:51,960
recommendations we revised them

3469
02:44:51,960 --> 02:44:53,760
prioritized them and created the draft

3470
02:44:53,760 --> 02:44:54,899
plan

3471
02:44:54,899 --> 02:44:57,359
this fall we shared the draft plan with

3472
02:44:57,359 --> 02:44:59,640
the public we revised it based off of

3473
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:01,080
input we received from school

3474
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:02,760
administrators and for members of the

3475
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:05,340
public we produced a final draft plan

3476
02:45:05,340 --> 02:45:07,319
that is here tonight for city council

3477
02:45:07,319 --> 02:45:08,819
study session

3478
02:45:08,819 --> 02:45:11,280
the final plan will be presented for

3479
02:45:11,280 --> 02:45:13,020
city council adoption tentatively

3480
02:45:13,020 --> 02:45:19,190
February 14th

3481
02:45:19,200 --> 02:45:19,920
I'm going to talk a little bit about

3482
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:21,720
safety analysis which was one of our big

3483
02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:22,740
factors in coming up with

3484
02:45:22,740 --> 02:45:25,020
recommendations we analyzed vehicle

3485
02:45:25,020 --> 02:45:27,300
pedestrian and collision data on the

3486
02:45:27,300 --> 02:45:29,700
city's roadways and produce the map that

3487
02:45:29,700 --> 02:45:32,100
you see on the screen the roads in blue

3488
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:34,020
and purple have the most significant

3489
02:45:34,020 --> 02:45:36,060
safety challenges the analysis

3490
02:45:36,060 --> 02:45:37,380
highlighted areas that had the most

3491
02:45:37,380 --> 02:45:41,640
severe collisions involving Youth and crashes

3492
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:43,380
that involve vulnerable Road users that

3493
02:45:43,380 --> 02:45:45,300
is people walking or bicycling

3494
02:45:45,300 --> 02:45:47,280
the results that you see here align with

3495
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:49,740
what we've seen in other jurisdictions

3496
02:45:49,740 --> 02:45:51,660
most crashes occurring along busier

3497
02:45:51,660 --> 02:45:53,460
streets and in denser roadway networks

3498
02:45:53,460 --> 02:45:55,439
you can see that around Skyline

3499
02:45:55,439 --> 02:45:58,740
Boulevard here and also along and east

3500
02:45:58,740 --> 02:46:02,990
of El Camino Real

3501
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:05,939
our community engagement involved online

3502
02:46:05,939 --> 02:46:08,399
and in-person engagement so for online

3503
02:46:08,399 --> 02:46:11,160
we had a project website we developed

3504
02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:13,160
that project website with San

3505
02:46:13,160 --> 02:46:15,840
bruno.ca.gov safe routes if measure the

3506
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:17,640
public are watching or watching later

3507
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:19,439
they can still go to that website and

3508
02:46:19,439 --> 02:46:21,540
get information about the plan

3509
02:46:21,540 --> 02:46:24,300
we had a survey interactive map we had

3510
02:46:24,300 --> 02:46:26,280
information about upcoming events and a

3511
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:28,080
contact form

3512
02:46:28,080 --> 02:46:29,460
this is a screen capture of the

3513
02:46:29,460 --> 02:46:31,979
interactive web tool where residents

3514
02:46:31,979 --> 02:46:33,660
could share their preferred walking or

3515
02:46:33,660 --> 02:46:35,340
bicycling routes from home to school

3516
02:46:35,340 --> 02:46:37,439
they also could add points to identify

3517
02:46:37,439 --> 02:46:42,230
challenging locations along those routes

3518
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:45,000
we made presentations to over 70 parents

3519
02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:48,359
and staff at PTO meetings at Allen

3520
02:46:48,359 --> 02:46:51,359
Rollingwood John Muir and Portola we

3521
02:46:51,359 --> 02:46:53,880
actively tried to get on the agendas for

3522
02:46:53,880 --> 02:46:55,680
all the different ptos some of them were

3523
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:56,939
less active than others and these are

3524
02:46:56,939 --> 02:46:58,260
the ones that invited us to come and

3525
02:46:58,260 --> 02:47:01,010
present

3526
02:47:01,020 --> 02:47:04,080
we heard from over 400 residents through

3527
02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:06,060
the survey responses and half of those

3528
02:47:06,060 --> 02:47:08,220
were parents and students that lived

3529
02:47:08,220 --> 02:47:09,899
within a mile of school so that's a

3530
02:47:09,899 --> 02:47:11,939
great distance for walking and bicycling

3531
02:47:11,939 --> 02:47:13,740
the top three concerns we heard were

3532
02:47:13,740 --> 02:47:15,260
speeding traffic along the Route

3533
02:47:15,260 --> 02:47:17,939
uncomfortable intersections and too much

3534
02:47:17,939 --> 02:47:20,760
traffic along the Route

3535
02:47:20,760 --> 02:47:22,800
in addition to that in-person online

3536
02:47:22,800 --> 02:47:26,580
engagement we conducted walk audits

3537
02:47:26,580 --> 02:47:29,100
this is a practical oops sorry this is a

3538
02:47:29,100 --> 02:47:31,020
practical exercise where our staff of

3539
02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:32,899
Transportation planners and Engineers

3540
02:47:32,899 --> 02:47:35,880
worked with City staff District staff

3541
02:47:35,880 --> 02:47:38,520
School administrators and parents to

3542
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:41,040
observe biking and walking we looked at

3543
02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:42,979
how people were able to cross streets

3544
02:47:42,979 --> 02:47:45,780
observed any potential safety issues how

3545
02:47:45,780 --> 02:47:47,520
drivers interacted with students in

3546
02:47:47,520 --> 02:47:49,620
walking and biking and we conducted

3547
02:47:49,620 --> 02:47:51,120
these with for the nine fully

3548
02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:55,130
participating schools

3549
02:47:55,140 --> 02:47:56,340
so now I'm going to talk to you about

3550
02:47:56,340 --> 02:47:59,399
the findings and recommendations we

3551
02:47:59,399 --> 02:48:00,840
developed site-specific recommendations

3552
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:02,640
those recommendations are in two

3553
02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:04,319
different buckets infrastructure

3554
02:48:04,319 --> 02:48:07,380
projects and non-infrastructure programs

3555
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:09,180
examples of infrastructure projects

3556
02:48:09,180 --> 02:48:10,620
include painting high visibility

3557
02:48:10,620 --> 02:48:12,000
crosswalks

3558
02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:14,280
like the image shown here this is

3559
02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:16,920
converting maybe a two parallel lines or

3560
02:48:16,920 --> 02:48:18,780
transverse crosswalks into this ladder

3561
02:48:18,780 --> 02:48:21,300
style these are painted yellow these are

3562
02:48:21,300 --> 02:48:23,760
to Mark the high visibility crosswalks

3563
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:25,800
in school zones

3564
02:48:25,800 --> 02:48:27,600
another type of infrastructure that

3565
02:48:27,600 --> 02:48:29,220
we're recommending are curb extensions

3566
02:48:29,220 --> 02:48:31,140
you can see an example here where we've

3567
02:48:31,140 --> 02:48:34,319
bold out the corners this is important

3568
02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:36,600
to increasing visibility especially for

3569
02:48:36,600 --> 02:48:38,460
smaller students at the corners

3570
02:48:38,460 --> 02:48:40,680
increases the visibility between drivers

3571
02:48:40,680 --> 02:48:42,780
and people waiting to cross it also

3572
02:48:42,780 --> 02:48:44,939
reduces the exposure of people out in

3573
02:48:44,939 --> 02:48:46,979
the middle of the street it also another

3574
02:48:46,979 --> 02:48:49,200
benefit is that it slows down cars

3575
02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:51,240
taking turns at Corners there's another

3576
02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:52,920
style that you can do which is a paint

3577
02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:55,319
and post there's an example here where

3578
02:48:55,319 --> 02:48:57,420
you just have flexible bollards and

3579
02:48:57,420 --> 02:48:58,800
paint that goes down this could be an

3580
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:00,840
interim low-cost solution as you're

3581
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:02,819
looking for funding for that higher cost

3582
02:49:02,819 --> 02:49:04,620
full concrete solution in the previous

3583
02:49:04,620 --> 02:49:06,240
image

3584
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:08,100
other examples infrastructure could

3585
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:10,200
include stop signs or completing studies

3586
02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:13,380
that you need to add stop signs or

3587
02:49:13,380 --> 02:49:16,979
painting red no parking curbs I heard a

3588
02:49:16,979 --> 02:49:18,960
comment at the speaker or the from the

3589
02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:21,120
public earlier today about this desire

3590
02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:22,560
this is something that comes up

3591
02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:24,359
repeatedly in the plan of creating these

3592
02:49:24,359 --> 02:49:27,240
visibility zones for people crossing the

3593
02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:30,410
streets

3594
02:49:30,420 --> 02:49:32,399
most touristic most jurisdictions lean

3595
02:49:32,399 --> 02:49:34,380
heavily on engineering Solutions what I

3596
02:49:34,380 --> 02:49:36,420
want to point out is this plan balances

3597
02:49:36,420 --> 02:49:39,600
that with non-infructure programs

3598
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:41,819
it includes a comprehensive list of

3599
02:49:41,819 --> 02:49:43,740
these infrastructure programs such as

3600
02:49:43,740 --> 02:49:45,840
Walk and Roll to school days

3601
02:49:45,840 --> 02:49:48,060
walking school buses which you can see

3602
02:49:48,060 --> 02:49:50,700
here parents volunteering to walk their

3603
02:49:50,700 --> 02:49:52,020
kids to school and pick up other kids

3604
02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:53,640
along the way

3605
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:56,399
other ideas like encouraging families to

3606
02:49:56,399 --> 02:49:58,140
park and walk to school for those that

3607
02:49:58,140 --> 02:49:59,939
can't maybe walk the entire distance

3608
02:49:59,939 --> 02:50:01,380
this is a way to kind of cut that in

3609
02:50:01,380 --> 02:50:03,720
half driver awareness campaigns and bike

3610
02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:06,000
rodeos which include skills training for

3611
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:07,319
kids

3612
02:50:07,319 --> 02:50:08,819
yeah

3613
02:50:08,819 --> 02:50:11,280
this image is from a series of one page

3614
02:50:11,280 --> 02:50:12,899
one pages that we created for school

3615
02:50:12,899 --> 02:50:14,939
Partners looking to get involved in

3616
02:50:14,939 --> 02:50:17,340
safer programming the same information

3617
02:50:17,340 --> 02:50:19,020
is shared in the safe rates of school

3618
02:50:19,020 --> 02:50:21,899
plan starting on page 19. we include a

3619
02:50:21,899 --> 02:50:23,760
program description

3620
02:50:23,760 --> 02:50:26,880
planning resources and program examples

3621
02:50:26,880 --> 02:50:28,620
potential partners and responsible

3622
02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:31,260
agencies and the timing or seasonal

3623
02:50:31,260 --> 02:50:34,680
considerations for each of the programs

3624
02:50:34,680 --> 02:50:36,420
one program that has strong interest is

3625
02:50:36,420 --> 02:50:38,640
the crossing guard program Matt Lee is

3626
02:50:38,640 --> 02:50:40,319
going to come back and share with you

3627
02:50:40,319 --> 02:50:42,000
some of the discussion about the

3628
02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:47,389
crossing guard program

3629
02:50:47,399 --> 02:50:49,200
thanks Jeff a little bit about the

3630
02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:52,140
crossing guard program just so we recall

3631
02:50:52,140 --> 02:50:53,819
on the October 11th council meeting

3632
02:50:53,819 --> 02:50:56,399
there was a discussion of a student

3633
02:50:56,399 --> 02:50:58,380
pedestrian Crossing safety on Niles

3634
02:50:58,380 --> 02:51:01,680
Avenue and in that meeting the there was

3635
02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:03,479
a it was brought to the attention

3636
02:51:03,479 --> 02:51:05,160
Council that Crossing cards were

3637
02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:07,680
provided at three locations the one

3638
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:09,240
location at Crystal Springs and Oak

3639
02:51:09,240 --> 02:51:11,220
Avenue

3640
02:51:11,220 --> 02:51:14,280
was optimized for student safety and so

3641
02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:16,520
the discussion had there

3642
02:51:16,520 --> 02:51:18,899
at that time the police chief was

3643
02:51:18,899 --> 02:51:21,120
directed to kind of go take a look back

3644
02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:23,220
at the crossing guard program that memo

3645
02:51:23,220 --> 02:51:25,740
is attached in this staff report and uh

3646
02:51:25,740 --> 02:51:28,200
the the biggest takeaway is uh to add

3647
02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:29,640
additional crossing guards would be

3648
02:51:29,640 --> 02:51:31,380
approximately twenty thousand dollars

3649
02:51:31,380 --> 02:51:33,899
per year per location and require

3650
02:51:33,899 --> 02:51:35,520
Amendment to the current budget and the

3651
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:36,840
appropriate funds needed for that

3652
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:41,880
contract now I handed it back to Jeff to

3653
02:51:41,880 --> 02:51:44,220
talk about the city-wide infrastructure

3654
02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:47,150
recommendations

3655
02:51:47,160 --> 02:51:50,760
thanks Matt so before I share the draft

3656
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:52,380
school specific recommendations the plan

3657
02:51:52,380 --> 02:51:54,359
has three city-wide infrastructure

3658
02:51:54,359 --> 02:51:55,680
recommendations

3659
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:57,840
first we recommend lowering speed limits

3660
02:51:57,840 --> 02:52:00,660
to 15 miles per hour in school zones

3661
02:52:00,660 --> 02:52:02,640
the second is to look at what policy

3662
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:04,740
changes are necessary to make it easier

3663
02:52:04,740 --> 02:52:07,439
for staff to add always stops in school

3664
02:52:07,439 --> 02:52:08,520
zones

3665
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:11,220
and finally adding Street trees and

3666
02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:13,260
green storm water infrastructure at the

3667
02:52:13,260 --> 02:52:15,120
same time that safety improvements go in

3668
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:18,769
when funding allows

3669
02:52:18,779 --> 02:52:20,939
the city of San Bruno and the districts

3670
02:52:20,939 --> 02:52:23,100
served in this plan do not have

3671
02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:25,500
unlimited financial resources or staff

3672
02:52:25,500 --> 02:52:27,720
capacity so recognizing that

3673
02:52:27,720 --> 02:52:30,240
implementing every recommendation in the

3674
02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:32,520
plan may not be feasible

3675
02:52:32,520 --> 02:52:34,020
therefore we put we went through a

3676
02:52:34,020 --> 02:52:35,819
prioritization process to identify the

3677
02:52:35,819 --> 02:52:38,399
highest impact and lowest cost projects

3678
02:52:38,399 --> 02:52:40,740
this plan uses the following criteria to

3679
02:52:40,740 --> 02:52:42,660
select those high priority projects

3680
02:52:42,660 --> 02:52:45,540
across the city and for each School

3681
02:52:45,540 --> 02:52:47,399
the first is location projects and

3682
02:52:47,399 --> 02:52:49,260
locations with the greatest risk

3683
02:52:49,260 --> 02:52:51,120
indicated by that Collision analysis

3684
02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:53,279
that I shared with you previously

3685
02:52:53,279 --> 02:52:55,680
second was efficacy there have been many

3686
02:52:55,680 --> 02:52:57,660
studies about how efficient or you know

3687
02:52:57,660 --> 02:53:00,120
effective different treatments are and

3688
02:53:00,120 --> 02:53:01,620
reducing crashes and so that was

3689
02:53:01,620 --> 02:53:03,000
something we looked at

3690
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:05,040
and then the third and final criteria

3691
02:53:05,040 --> 02:53:07,080
was cost so this is where we scored

3692
02:53:07,080 --> 02:53:09,600
lower cost projects higher

3693
02:53:09,600 --> 02:53:12,060
I'll walk through uh now I'm going to

3694
02:53:12,060 --> 02:53:13,560
walk through each school's high priority

3695
02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:15,359
projects I'm not going to go through all

3696
02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:17,460
92 just the high priority ones for each

3697
02:53:17,460 --> 02:53:19,200
school that way you can come back with

3698
02:53:19,200 --> 02:53:22,969
any questions you have

3699
02:53:22,979 --> 02:53:24,720
after reviewing Community input and

3700
02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:26,279
conducting a walk audit at Allen

3701
02:53:26,279 --> 02:53:28,140
Elementary we found that cars moved

3702
02:53:28,140 --> 02:53:30,300
quickly on Lyndon Elm and Angus ABS we

3703
02:53:30,300 --> 02:53:31,979
also didn't find a need for crosswalk

3704
02:53:31,979 --> 02:53:33,960
improvements at intersections near the

3705
02:53:33,960 --> 02:53:36,420
schools near the school based on the

3706
02:53:36,420 --> 02:53:38,399
findings the plan recommended nine

3707
02:53:38,399 --> 02:53:40,200
infrastructure projects

3708
02:53:40,200 --> 02:53:42,060
the three high priority projects at

3709
02:53:42,060 --> 02:53:44,279
Allen are shown in the map in red at

3710
02:53:44,279 --> 02:53:46,319
number four on Angus Avenue where the

3711
02:53:46,319 --> 02:53:48,060
plan recommends making the school drop

3712
02:53:48,060 --> 02:53:51,180
off Loop a write-in right out only for

3713
02:53:51,180 --> 02:53:53,160
vehicles the other two high priority

3714
02:53:53,160 --> 02:53:55,020
recommendations are number six at

3715
02:53:55,020 --> 02:53:57,060
Genevieve and Acacia Ave and number

3716
02:53:57,060 --> 02:53:59,460
seven at Genevieve and Cypress ABS the

3717
02:53:59,460 --> 02:54:01,200
plan recommends studying adding all

3718
02:54:01,200 --> 02:54:03,359
waste stops and then also adding red

3719
02:54:03,359 --> 02:54:05,279
curb near the crosswalks at both of

3720
02:54:05,279 --> 02:54:09,410
these locations

3721
02:54:09,420 --> 02:54:11,460
at Bel Air Elementary findings from the

3722
02:54:11,460 --> 02:54:13,140
walk audit and Survey are consistent

3723
02:54:13,140 --> 02:54:14,460
with the school safety assessment

3724
02:54:14,460 --> 02:54:16,859
conducted in 2019

3725
02:54:16,859 --> 02:54:18,840
specifically concerns about congestion

3726
02:54:18,840 --> 02:54:20,700
at the school entrance on Third Avenue

3727
02:54:20,700 --> 02:54:22,500
and around the loading zones and

3728
02:54:22,500 --> 02:54:24,240
speeding into and out of the school

3729
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:30,290
parking lot connecting to First Avenue

3730
02:54:30,300 --> 02:54:31,920
the planning effort was more extensive

3731
02:54:31,920 --> 02:54:33,899
than the previous School assessment as

3732
02:54:33,899 --> 02:54:35,520
such these findings are consistent with

3733
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:36,899
the previous work and in some cases

3734
02:54:36,899 --> 02:54:38,880
Provide support for more robust

3735
02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:40,680
Solutions the plan recommends 11

3736
02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:42,660
improvements around Bel Air

3737
02:54:42,660 --> 02:54:44,340
high priority recommendations include

3738
02:54:44,340 --> 02:54:46,260
numbers three and four shown in red on

3739
02:54:46,260 --> 02:54:47,819
the map which focus on improving

3740
02:54:47,819 --> 02:54:49,319
conditions where the school drop-off

3741
02:54:49,319 --> 02:54:52,680
Loop meets Lions Park number three adds

3742
02:54:52,680 --> 02:54:54,660
a sidewalk connection into Lion's Park

3743
02:54:54,660 --> 02:54:57,060
parking lot to connect the school with

3744
02:54:57,060 --> 02:54:58,740
the existing pedestrian path towards the

3745
02:54:58,740 --> 02:55:00,899
south side of the Lot Number Four adds a

3746
02:55:00,899 --> 02:55:03,120
raised crosswalk and a right in right

3747
02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:05,880
out style directive to slow and simplify

3748
02:55:05,880 --> 02:55:08,580
vehicle movements at that location

3749
02:55:08,580 --> 02:55:10,680
recommendations two and six also clarify

3750
02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:12,660
pedestrian right-of-way by making a

3751
02:55:12,660 --> 02:55:14,580
crosswalk across the driveway around the

3752
02:55:14,580 --> 02:55:20,510
school

3753
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:22,800
the walk audit and our survey feedback

3754
02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:24,600
at cappuccino highlighted long

3755
02:55:24,600 --> 02:55:26,939
uncomfortable Crossings especially to

3756
02:55:26,939 --> 02:55:29,700
the east of Campus on El Camino Real

3757
02:55:29,700 --> 02:55:32,279
people also noted the rolled curb on on

3758
02:55:32,279 --> 02:55:34,020
the sidewalks that allowed cars to park

3759
02:55:34,020 --> 02:55:35,939
and block the sidewalk making it

3760
02:55:35,939 --> 02:55:38,100
challenging for people to walk in some

3761
02:55:38,100 --> 02:55:41,389
areas around the school

3762
02:55:41,399 --> 02:55:43,979
plan recommends 11 projects at

3763
02:55:43,979 --> 02:55:45,720
cappuccino

3764
02:55:45,720 --> 02:55:47,279
the high priority improvements are

3765
02:55:47,279 --> 02:55:48,899
mostly along El Camino Real you can see

3766
02:55:48,899 --> 02:55:52,680
this on 7 8 and 11. those include mostly

3767
02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:55,620
adding always stops and recommending

3768
02:55:55,620 --> 02:55:57,660
straightening the right turn Lanes to

3769
02:55:57,660 --> 02:55:58,979
align with the street to improve

3770
02:55:58,979 --> 02:56:00,680
visibility and slow

3771
02:56:00,680 --> 02:56:05,210
turning traffic

3772
02:56:05,220 --> 02:56:07,560
yeah John Muir a walk audit participants

3773
02:56:07,560 --> 02:56:09,840
noticed significant congestion along

3774
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:11,819
crestmore Drive leading North from the

3775
02:56:11,819 --> 02:56:13,859
school along with the other Drive driver

3776
02:56:13,859 --> 02:56:15,300
behavior and conditions that made it

3777
02:56:15,300 --> 02:56:17,460
challenging to Cross crestmore Drive

3778
02:56:17,460 --> 02:56:19,560
additional Community input reinforced

3779
02:56:19,560 --> 02:56:22,020
Crossing difficulties at existing marked

3780
02:56:22,020 --> 02:56:24,000
and unmarked crosswalks

3781
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:25,740
so therefore we came up with 10

3782
02:56:25,740 --> 02:56:27,660
improvements at Muir the highest

3783
02:56:27,660 --> 02:56:28,859
priority improvements are focused on

3784
02:56:28,859 --> 02:56:30,840
making it easier for students and

3785
02:56:30,840 --> 02:56:32,760
community members across crestmore drive

3786
02:56:32,760 --> 02:56:35,399
at Cambridge Lane close to the school

3787
02:56:35,399 --> 02:56:37,220
recommendation you can see number four

3788
02:56:37,220 --> 02:56:40,979
includes an all-way stop warrant study

3789
02:56:40,979 --> 02:56:43,979
and then recommendation six adds Boll

3790
02:56:43,979 --> 02:56:46,260
alerts or posts to create a hardened

3791
02:56:46,260 --> 02:56:47,880
Center Line on Cambridge Lane

3792
02:56:47,880 --> 02:56:51,479
approaching the school entrance

3793
02:56:51,479 --> 02:56:54,309
foreign

3794
02:56:54,319 --> 02:56:56,819
schools these are County run special

3795
02:56:56,819 --> 02:56:58,500
education facilities where the student

3796
02:56:58,500 --> 02:57:01,020
body is bussed to campus their walking

3797
02:57:01,020 --> 02:57:02,939
and biking needs are somewhat limited as

3798
02:57:02,939 --> 02:57:05,220
a result however school officials on the

3799
02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:06,420
walk audit share that students

3800
02:57:06,420 --> 02:57:08,399
frequently crossed Commodore Drive to

3801
02:57:08,399 --> 02:57:10,500
access the park across the street and

3802
02:57:10,500 --> 02:57:11,640
would benefit from improved

3803
02:57:11,640 --> 02:57:16,250
accessibility and ease of that Crossing

3804
02:57:16,260 --> 02:57:18,180
we have four recommendations at the

3805
02:57:18,180 --> 02:57:20,160
school site the high priority project is

3806
02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:21,840
located on Commodore Drive at the school

3807
02:57:21,840 --> 02:57:24,060
entrance and includes painting a high

3808
02:57:24,060 --> 02:57:26,819
visibility crosswalk across the driveway

3809
02:57:26,819 --> 02:57:28,800
and realigning the curb ramps to make

3810
02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:31,439
the entrance to the school grounds more

3811
02:57:31,439 --> 02:57:34,190
accessible

3812
02:57:34,200 --> 02:57:36,840
at Parkside walk audit participants and

3813
02:57:36,840 --> 02:57:38,520
Community input noted significant

3814
02:57:38,520 --> 02:57:41,160
digestion and double parking along Niles

3815
02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:43,560
Avenue adjacent to school which made it

3816
02:57:43,560 --> 02:57:45,420
difficult for students to cross from the

3817
02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:48,180
adjacent neighborhood genevine Ave was

3818
02:57:48,180 --> 02:57:49,740
also identified as a barrier for

3819
02:57:49,740 --> 02:57:51,359
students Crossing from neighborhoods to

3820
02:57:51,359 --> 02:57:54,720
the north with heavy or fast traffic and

3821
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:56,880
uncomfortable intersections the project

3822
02:57:56,880 --> 02:57:59,040
team also explored potential connections

3823
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:02,040
to the South to dissipate some of the

3824
02:58:02,040 --> 02:58:03,479
congestion on the north side of the

3825
02:58:03,479 --> 02:58:06,530
school

3826
02:58:06,540 --> 02:58:08,660
of the nine recommendations

3827
02:58:08,660 --> 02:58:11,040
projects that worksite for them are high

3828
02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:12,899
priority two recommendations numbers

3829
02:58:12,899 --> 02:58:15,720
eight and nine along genevine Ave at

3830
02:58:15,720 --> 02:58:18,479
Cedar and Cherry Ave include paint and

3831
02:58:18,479 --> 02:58:20,700
post curb extensions and high visibility

3832
02:58:20,700 --> 02:58:22,680
crosswalks to make it easier to cross

3833
02:58:22,680 --> 02:58:25,140
Genevieve while an always-stop warrant

3834
02:58:25,140 --> 02:58:28,140
study is also recommended at Cedar lined

3835
02:58:28,140 --> 02:58:29,120
up with the school entrance

3836
02:58:29,120 --> 02:58:31,800
recommendation 4 also involves a stop

3837
02:58:31,800 --> 02:58:33,720
warrant study to create better Crossing

3838
02:58:33,720 --> 02:58:35,180
opportunities at the school entrance

3839
02:58:35,180 --> 02:58:37,380
recommendation number seven at Donner

3840
02:58:37,380 --> 02:58:40,020
Ave and Palomar Court include conducting

3841
02:58:40,020 --> 02:58:42,300
a stop warrant study with second tier

3842
02:58:42,300 --> 02:58:44,279
recommendations to install high-vis

3843
02:58:44,279 --> 02:58:48,710
crosswalks

3844
02:58:48,720 --> 02:58:50,819
the walk audit at Portola and Community

3845
02:58:50,819 --> 02:58:52,620
input noted and comfortable conditions

3846
02:58:52,620 --> 02:58:55,260
walking along Amador Avenue due to foggy

3847
02:58:55,260 --> 02:58:57,660
conditions and lack of street lights the

3848
02:58:57,660 --> 02:58:59,340
project team also heard concerns about

3849
02:58:59,340 --> 02:59:02,040
Crossing at busy intersections towards

3850
02:59:02,040 --> 02:59:03,960
and including Skyline Boulevard that

3851
02:59:03,960 --> 02:59:05,580
serve as a barrier for students and

3852
02:59:05,580 --> 02:59:09,240
caregivers about and about visibility

3853
02:59:09,240 --> 02:59:10,740
concerns that the existing Crossing on

3854
02:59:10,740 --> 02:59:13,620
Amador near the school entrance

3855
02:59:13,620 --> 02:59:15,660
we have five recommendations at Portola

3856
02:59:15,660 --> 02:59:17,340
the highest priority recommendation is

3857
02:59:17,340 --> 02:59:20,340
to increase pedestrian accessibility

3858
02:59:20,340 --> 02:59:22,319
and visibility at the school entrance on

3859
02:59:22,319 --> 02:59:24,660
Amador Ave by adding curb ramps and a

3860
02:59:24,660 --> 02:59:26,520
high visibility crosswalk as well as

3861
02:59:26,520 --> 02:59:28,680
reinforcing simplified traffic flow with

3862
02:59:28,680 --> 02:59:34,849
right in right out only Flex posts

3863
02:59:34,859 --> 02:59:36,540
the largest opportunity for improvement

3864
02:59:36,540 --> 02:59:38,279
shared by The Rolling one Community was

3865
02:59:38,279 --> 02:59:40,140
the current traffic congestion during

3866
02:59:40,140 --> 02:59:42,000
pickup and drop-off due to Vehicles

3867
02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:44,460
parked on Cottonwood Drive knowing that

3868
02:59:44,460 --> 02:59:46,200
Rolling Wood is slated to close at the

3869
02:59:46,200 --> 02:59:48,479
end of the 22-23-3 school year the

3870
02:59:48,479 --> 02:59:50,160
project team also looked at connections

3871
02:59:50,160 --> 02:59:52,140
to other neighborhoods at the periphery

3872
02:59:52,140 --> 02:59:55,550
of rolling one school zone

3873
02:59:55,560 --> 02:59:57,060
of the six recommendations at

3874
02:59:57,060 --> 02:59:59,399
Rollingwood three are high priority the

3875
02:59:59,399 --> 03:00:00,660
first and easiest is to implement

3876
03:00:00,660 --> 03:00:02,340
recommendation number two on the map

3877
03:00:02,340 --> 03:00:04,319
priveting marketing parking along

3878
03:00:04,319 --> 03:00:06,720
Cottonwood where the pot pick up and

3879
03:00:06,720 --> 03:00:08,819
drop off cues form a bottleneck the

3880
03:00:08,819 --> 03:00:10,979
other two high priority projects are

3881
03:00:10,979 --> 03:00:13,439
adding high visibility crosswalks and

3882
03:00:13,439 --> 03:00:14,819
exploring traffic calming along

3883
03:00:14,819 --> 03:00:18,110
Rollingwood Drive

3884
03:00:18,120 --> 03:00:20,399
at St Robert Elementary project team

3885
03:00:20,399 --> 03:00:21,960
heard from Community about traffic

3886
03:00:21,960 --> 03:00:23,880
moving quickly and a need for traffic

3887
03:00:23,880 --> 03:00:26,220
calming along Oak Avenue as well as

3888
03:00:26,220 --> 03:00:28,500
Crossing concerns at Oak and Niles and

3889
03:00:28,500 --> 03:00:30,240
Oak and Crystal Springs

3890
03:00:30,240 --> 03:00:31,920
during the walk audit the project team

3891
03:00:31,920 --> 03:00:33,960
had similar observations and also noted

3892
03:00:33,960 --> 03:00:36,060
challenging pedestrian visibility around

3893
03:00:36,060 --> 03:00:37,979
the many entrances and exits of school

3894
03:00:37,979 --> 03:00:40,319
and church parking lots along Oak and

3895
03:00:40,319 --> 03:00:42,889
Crystal Springs

3896
03:00:42,899 --> 03:00:45,359
the plan recommends 13 projects around

3897
03:00:45,359 --> 03:00:47,100
St Roberts and the highest priority

3898
03:00:47,100 --> 03:00:48,420
recommendations are related to

3899
03:00:48,420 --> 03:00:50,939
pedestrian visibility along and at

3900
03:00:50,939 --> 03:00:57,710
Crystal Springs Road near Oak Avenue

3901
03:00:57,720 --> 03:00:59,460
Highlands Christian School this is the

3902
03:00:59,460 --> 03:01:00,540
first of the three partially

3903
03:01:00,540 --> 03:01:01,979
participating schools that did not

3904
03:01:01,979 --> 03:01:04,260
receive a walk audit however conditions

3905
03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:05,819
observed during the Portola Elementary

3906
03:01:05,819 --> 03:01:07,560
walk audit informed recommendations

3907
03:01:07,560 --> 03:01:09,479
nearby at Highlands as you can see

3908
03:01:09,479 --> 03:01:12,439
portola's shown here just up the street

3909
03:01:12,439 --> 03:01:16,080
on on Amador Ave recommendation number

3910
03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:18,120
one it's a high priority to increase

3911
03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:19,620
pedestrian visibility at the school

3912
03:01:19,620 --> 03:01:21,479
entrance by extending the red curbs on

3913
03:01:21,479 --> 03:01:23,939
Amador Ave and Monterey Drive

3914
03:01:23,939 --> 03:01:26,040
second high priority project number two

3915
03:01:26,040 --> 03:01:27,420
is exploring the addition of traffic

3916
03:01:27,420 --> 03:01:29,640
calming elements to Monterey Drive such

3917
03:01:29,640 --> 03:01:31,500
as speed feedback science which are the

3918
03:01:31,500 --> 03:01:32,819
signs that light up to tell you how fast

3919
03:01:32,819 --> 03:01:33,899
you're going

3920
03:01:33,899 --> 03:01:35,939
adding speed humps or visually nearing

3921
03:01:35,939 --> 03:01:37,680
the travel Lanes by striping The Edge

3922
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:39,240
Lane of parking

3923
03:01:39,240 --> 03:01:41,220
all of the traffic calming would need to

3924
03:01:41,220 --> 03:01:43,200
adhere to the city's traffic calming

3925
03:01:43,200 --> 03:01:45,020
program

3926
03:01:45,020 --> 03:01:47,399
monteverdi is another school that the

3927
03:01:47,399 --> 03:01:49,200
project team did not conduct a full walk

3928
03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:52,140
audit however we sent our engineering

3929
03:01:52,140 --> 03:01:54,660
team out there to look at observations

3930
03:01:54,660 --> 03:01:56,399
and came up with additional

3931
03:01:56,399 --> 03:01:58,740
recommendations a high priority is here

3932
03:01:58,740 --> 03:01:59,939
at

3933
03:01:59,939 --> 03:02:02,220
um Saint Cloud and Fleetwood Drive the

3934
03:02:02,220 --> 03:02:03,600
plan recommends conducting an always

3935
03:02:03,600 --> 03:02:05,520
stop warrant study painting high

3936
03:02:05,520 --> 03:02:07,500
visibility crosswalks on all legs of the

3937
03:02:07,500 --> 03:02:09,960
intersection installing paint and post

3938
03:02:09,960 --> 03:02:12,300
curb extensions and extending the length

3939
03:02:12,300 --> 03:02:16,910
of the adjacent no parking zones

3940
03:02:16,920 --> 03:02:19,859
Stratford school is the final partially

3941
03:02:19,859 --> 03:02:22,500
participating school and like the others

3942
03:02:22,500 --> 03:02:24,540
did not receive a full audit but from

3943
03:02:24,540 --> 03:02:26,760
the input we received from the public we

3944
03:02:26,760 --> 03:02:28,200
came up with a series of recommendations

3945
03:02:28,200 --> 03:02:30,960
high priority number one on the map is

3946
03:02:30,960 --> 03:02:33,000
extending no parking zones around the

3947
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:34,380
existing crosswalk at the school

3948
03:02:34,380 --> 03:02:35,460
entrance

3949
03:02:35,460 --> 03:02:39,660
number three is to evaluate install

3950
03:02:39,660 --> 03:02:41,700
traffic calming devices along crestmore

3951
03:02:41,700 --> 03:02:44,880
drive this is one that came up quite a

3952
03:02:44,880 --> 03:02:47,760
bit from public input on recommendations

3953
03:02:47,760 --> 03:02:49,859
for the school

3954
03:02:49,859 --> 03:02:52,439
so in summary we've prioritized 22 high

3955
03:02:52,439 --> 03:02:54,120
priority projects at a cost of just

3956
03:02:54,120 --> 03:02:56,760
under five hundred thousand dollars 38

3957
03:02:56,760 --> 03:02:59,340
medium priority projects at 2.1 million

3958
03:02:59,340 --> 03:03:02,220
dollars and 32 lower priority projects

3959
03:03:02,220 --> 03:03:06,479
at 4.9 million dollars a total of 7.5

3960
03:03:06,479 --> 03:03:09,300
million dollars altogether these are all

3961
03:03:09,300 --> 03:03:10,740
planning level cost estimates and

3962
03:03:10,740 --> 03:03:12,899
additional design is needed to further

3963
03:03:12,899 --> 03:03:15,420
refine these costs we believe you can

3964
03:03:15,420 --> 03:03:17,040
accomplish all high priority projects

3965
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:19,319
with a single Grant from San Mateo

3966
03:03:19,319 --> 03:03:20,640
County Transportation Authority through

3967
03:03:20,640 --> 03:03:23,160
their measure a w program additional

3968
03:03:23,160 --> 03:03:24,960
City and external grants will be needed

3969
03:03:24,960 --> 03:03:26,279
for the rest

3970
03:03:26,279 --> 03:03:28,020
Matt's going to come back and going to

3971
03:03:28,020 --> 03:03:29,340
share a list a short list of

3972
03:03:29,340 --> 03:03:30,840
opportunities that we think the city

3973
03:03:30,840 --> 03:03:32,520
will be competitive for screen funding

3974
03:03:32,520 --> 03:03:37,550
and then walk you through next steps

3975
03:03:37,560 --> 03:03:40,380
thanks Jeff so

3976
03:03:40,380 --> 03:03:43,200
in terms of funding opportunities we

3977
03:03:43,200 --> 03:03:45,540
really try to be opportunistic for plans

3978
03:03:45,540 --> 03:03:48,060
like this once we get the plan going and

3979
03:03:48,060 --> 03:03:50,040
it's adopted by Council we take every

3980
03:03:50,040 --> 03:03:52,020
opportunity we can with existing

3981
03:03:52,020 --> 03:03:53,580
projects to implement some of these

3982
03:03:53,580 --> 03:03:57,420
low-hanging fruits and then with that

3983
03:03:57,420 --> 03:03:59,100
there are also grant opportunities that

3984
03:03:59,100 --> 03:04:00,960
we keep our eyes out on there's federal

3985
03:04:00,960 --> 03:04:03,720
grants such as safe routes Safe Streets

3986
03:04:03,720 --> 03:04:05,460
on roads for all there's various state

3987
03:04:05,460 --> 03:04:07,560
grants and as Jeff mentioned there's the

3988
03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:10,080
local grants of San Mateo County measure

3989
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:12,779
a w as well and then there's always our

3990
03:04:12,779 --> 03:04:16,800
own CIP funds if if there are any that

3991
03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:20,160
would um be be able to be utilized with

3992
03:04:20,160 --> 03:04:22,620
those types of funds I now pass it back

3993
03:04:22,620 --> 03:04:26,220
to Jeff uh to oh sorry I apologize and

3994
03:04:26,220 --> 03:04:28,439
so uh so those are the funds that we

3995
03:04:28,439 --> 03:04:31,020
have for tonight the fiscal impact there

3996
03:04:31,020 --> 03:04:33,060
is no fiscal impact for you guys to

3997
03:04:33,060 --> 03:04:36,540
receive the the plan itself uh we

3998
03:04:36,540 --> 03:04:38,160
already as we mentioned earlier had a

3999
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:41,819
grant to uh develop the plan

4000
03:04:41,819 --> 03:04:43,260
um and so there would be no cost for

4001
03:04:43,260 --> 03:04:45,420
this actual plan uh and finalizing it

4002
03:04:45,420 --> 03:04:47,640
the next steps we have is to receive the

4003
03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:50,580
input from Council uh and the project

4004
03:04:50,580 --> 03:04:52,140
team can finalize the safe routes to

4005
03:04:52,140 --> 03:04:53,520
school plan and bring it back for

4006
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:56,460
Council adoption at a future meeting

4007
03:04:56,460 --> 03:04:59,100
so tonight's action is just for you to

4008
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:00,899
provide us with any comments you have on

4009
03:05:00,899 --> 03:05:03,960
the plan itself or we're able uh to

4010
03:05:03,960 --> 03:05:06,000
answer any questions that you and you

4011
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:08,100
all may have

4012
03:05:08,100 --> 03:05:10,140
thank you both very much for the report

4013
03:05:10,140 --> 03:05:13,080
and at this time we'll ask any uh

4014
03:05:13,080 --> 03:05:15,240
comments or questions comments or

4015
03:05:15,240 --> 03:05:18,000
questions from Council at this time

4016
03:05:18,000 --> 03:05:22,550
councilman Medina

4017
03:05:22,560 --> 03:05:24,060
um

4018
03:05:24,060 --> 03:05:26,040
it's amazing really

4019
03:05:26,040 --> 03:05:27,300
um just wanted to thank everyone

4020
03:05:27,300 --> 03:05:32,399
involved for for this I know

4021
03:05:32,399 --> 03:05:34,620
numerous people in our community are

4022
03:05:34,620 --> 03:05:37,140
concerned about you know the topic not

4023
03:05:37,140 --> 03:05:39,600
only around schools but the additional

4024
03:05:39,600 --> 03:05:42,840
speeding and

4025
03:05:42,840 --> 03:05:45,600
impairments to line of sight at

4026
03:05:45,600 --> 03:05:47,460
intersections where there's just so many

4027
03:05:47,460 --> 03:05:50,340
cars now that our roads weren't designed

4028
03:05:50,340 --> 03:05:53,040
to have that many cars and now

4029
03:05:53,040 --> 03:05:55,319
people are parking and blocking the line

4030
03:05:55,319 --> 03:05:57,420
of sight and and

4031
03:05:57,420 --> 03:05:59,040
um

4032
03:05:59,040 --> 03:06:01,920
I'm looking forward to implementing some

4033
03:06:01,920 --> 03:06:03,300
of these things I'm concerned of course

4034
03:06:03,300 --> 03:06:05,290
of the cost just like everything else

4035
03:06:05,290 --> 03:06:05,700
[Music]

4036
03:06:05,700 --> 03:06:06,479
um

4037
03:06:06,479 --> 03:06:09,180
were trying to do our best with the

4038
03:06:09,180 --> 03:06:12,180
money that we have I am encouraged by

4039
03:06:12,180 --> 03:06:16,200
the grant opportunities and

4040
03:06:16,200 --> 03:06:19,800
um as we go forward with our budget

4041
03:06:19,800 --> 03:06:22,640
to seeing how we could start taking

4042
03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:25,380
bites out of these things to making and

4043
03:06:25,380 --> 03:06:28,500
I really appreciate the

4044
03:06:28,500 --> 03:06:30,899
um the way that it's prioritized for for

4045
03:06:30,899 --> 03:06:33,300
getting the low-cost effective ones I

4046
03:06:33,300 --> 03:06:36,779
mean a lot of crosswalks back in the day

4047
03:06:36,779 --> 03:06:39,300
I I recall

4048
03:06:39,300 --> 03:06:43,020
um how we would repaint crosswalks like

4049
03:06:43,020 --> 03:06:44,700
every other year and then and and I

4050
03:06:44,700 --> 03:06:46,260
think we've kind of gone away from that

4051
03:06:46,260 --> 03:06:48,899
and there's a lot of striping that needs

4052
03:06:48,899 --> 03:06:51,180
to be done on not just the crosswalks

4053
03:06:51,180 --> 03:06:53,880
but on our streets as we heard earlier

4054
03:06:53,880 --> 03:06:55,460
today

4055
03:06:55,460 --> 03:07:00,240
so a lot of thanks for everyone

4056
03:07:00,240 --> 03:07:03,180
um and uh there's a lot now it's there's

4057
03:07:03,180 --> 03:07:06,060
a lot of work ahead so how we achieve

4058
03:07:06,060 --> 03:07:08,819
that I look forward to the budget and

4059
03:07:08,819 --> 03:07:10,260
seeing how we can get those grants so

4060
03:07:10,260 --> 03:07:12,300
thank you all for your work

4061
03:07:12,300 --> 03:07:18,180
thank you councilmember Alvarez please thank you

4062
03:07:18,180 --> 03:07:19,740
um I want to acknowledge sorry everyone

4063
03:07:19,740 --> 03:07:22,080
really quickly

4064
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:25,319
the I think it I think it's page 24 or

4065
03:07:25,319 --> 03:07:29,389
25 of the slides

4066
03:07:29,399 --> 03:07:31,740
so I noticed I noticed that

4067
03:07:31,740 --> 03:07:34,020
um the regular sidewalk was painted uh

4068
03:07:34,020 --> 03:07:36,359
yellow very

4069
03:07:36,359 --> 03:07:39,720
um you know very attractive and then I

4070
03:07:39,720 --> 03:07:44,399
also saw the round round design material

4071
03:07:44,399 --> 03:07:49,740
I don't know what materialism how do you determine uh what specific

4072
03:07:49,740 --> 03:07:51,420
design

4073
03:07:51,420 --> 03:07:57,899
um to use I noticed that the the blue bubble I think it's on page 24

4074
03:07:57,899 --> 03:08:02,640
25. very attractive actually

4075
03:08:02,640 --> 03:08:05,100
um is that

4076
03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:08,460
but it's not it wasn't used for The

4077
03:08:08,460 --> 03:08:10,319
Pedestrian though unlike the yellow

4078
03:08:10,319 --> 03:08:14,389
paint

4079
03:08:14,399 --> 03:08:16,920
um yeah I'm trying to find the photo I

4080
03:08:16,920 --> 03:08:18,840
think slide 24

4081
03:08:18,840 --> 03:08:22,800
is slide 25 is just a concrete bulb out

4082
03:08:22,800 --> 03:08:24,960
location are you talking about that yes

4083
03:08:24,960 --> 03:08:26,520
the blue

4084
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:29,880
blood design oh okay yeah so so uh so

4085
03:08:29,880 --> 03:08:32,399
like Jeff uh mentioned earlier these are

4086
03:08:32,399 --> 03:08:35,160
kind of the low-cost implementations uh

4087
03:08:35,160 --> 03:08:38,580
that we can kind of get out into uh the

4088
03:08:38,580 --> 03:08:41,760
into the real world uh without having to

4089
03:08:41,760 --> 03:08:43,800
spend a little too much money with the

4090
03:08:43,800 --> 03:08:46,080
final solution which is essentially the

4091
03:08:46,080 --> 03:08:49,979
concrete bulb out so uh I think what we've learned in the transportation

4092
03:08:49,979 --> 03:08:51,420
field is that we can Implement these

4093
03:08:51,420 --> 03:08:52,740
quickly

4094
03:08:52,740 --> 03:08:55,500
um and and and have them out there so

4095
03:08:55,500 --> 03:08:57,359
that they can expect so that the

4096
03:08:57,359 --> 03:08:59,700
traveling pedestrians can experience the

4097
03:08:59,700 --> 03:09:01,920
benefit prior to us finding a solution

4098
03:09:01,920 --> 03:09:04,920
of putting in actual concrete because

4099
03:09:04,920 --> 03:09:06,359
you know with the concrete work here

4100
03:09:06,359 --> 03:09:08,460
it's not just putting another sidewalk

4101
03:09:08,460 --> 03:09:10,740
out it's actually re-grading and looking

4102
03:09:10,740 --> 03:09:13,500
at the flow line for storm drainage uh

4103
03:09:13,500 --> 03:09:15,300
for for the intersection and trying to

4104
03:09:15,300 --> 03:09:16,859
make sure that that works and so that's

4105
03:09:16,859 --> 03:09:18,420
where the complications are so these are

4106
03:09:18,420 --> 03:09:20,340
kind of like Jeff said

4107
03:09:20,340 --> 03:09:23,279
um the the infrastructure improvements

4108
03:09:23,279 --> 03:09:24,779
that we can see a little more quickly

4109
03:09:24,779 --> 03:09:27,000
obviously these would be an air areas

4110
03:09:27,000 --> 03:09:29,580
where the wreck these are implemented in

4111
03:09:29,580 --> 03:09:31,260
areas where we're trying to shorten the

4112
03:09:31,260 --> 03:09:33,600
crossing distance

4113
03:09:33,600 --> 03:09:36,479
between the yellow visibility material

4114
03:09:36,479 --> 03:09:37,939
that we usually

4115
03:09:37,939 --> 03:09:42,420
see on the ram in in the sidewall and

4116
03:09:42,420 --> 03:09:44,700
they use that a lot for visibility but

4117
03:09:44,700 --> 03:09:46,680
you mentioned that you know this is also

4118
03:09:46,680 --> 03:09:49,800
as part of the reason for visibility so

4119
03:09:49,800 --> 03:09:52,680
between the two I probably would lean to

4120
03:09:52,680 --> 03:09:55,260
that the blue design the round blue

4121
03:09:55,260 --> 03:09:58,620
design very nice thank you

4122
03:09:58,620 --> 03:10:01,859
councilmember Salazar thank you sir uh

4123
03:10:01,859 --> 03:10:03,600
so one one question

4124
03:10:03,600 --> 03:10:05,340
um Matt I was wondering if you had had a

4125
03:10:05,340 --> 03:10:08,100
chance or will you at some point uh see

4126
03:10:08,100 --> 03:10:10,260
if there's an intersection between the

4127
03:10:10,260 --> 03:10:12,180
projects recommended here and projects

4128
03:10:12,180 --> 03:10:15,479
that we have in in flight or planning

4129
03:10:15,479 --> 03:10:19,979
already I was thinking you know we're going to put the the traffic

4130
03:10:19,979 --> 03:10:22,800
signals uh in front of the entrance to

4131
03:10:22,800 --> 03:10:25,140
City Park and that could have a

4132
03:10:25,140 --> 03:10:26,819
significant impact in some of the

4133
03:10:26,819 --> 03:10:28,500
recommendations that were made around St

4134
03:10:28,500 --> 03:10:32,100
Roberts and so uh you know maybe if we

4135
03:10:32,100 --> 03:10:33,420
can

4136
03:10:33,420 --> 03:10:35,819
so we could potentially prioritize

4137
03:10:35,819 --> 03:10:38,160
projects that have already either been

4138
03:10:38,160 --> 03:10:39,899
vetted or we already know that something

4139
03:10:39,899 --> 03:10:42,359
is is in the works for them

4140
03:10:42,359 --> 03:10:44,520
yeah that's a that's a great comment um

4141
03:10:44,520 --> 03:10:47,760
so uh unfortunately the projects are

4142
03:10:47,760 --> 03:10:49,020
happening on different timelines right

4143
03:10:49,020 --> 03:10:50,760
like the intercession of city park we've

4144
03:10:50,760 --> 03:10:52,740
kind of gone through the analysis to

4145
03:10:52,740 --> 03:10:53,819
determine what we were going to do at

4146
03:10:53,819 --> 03:10:55,560
that intersection and so we're moving

4147
03:10:55,560 --> 03:10:57,660
ahead with design we're in the process

4148
03:10:57,660 --> 03:11:00,060
of trying to get this plan adopted but

4149
03:11:00,060 --> 03:11:01,740
the good news is once this plan does get

4150
03:11:01,740 --> 03:11:04,260
adopted then we kind of make sure we

4151
03:11:04,260 --> 03:11:05,640
look take a look at our existing

4152
03:11:05,640 --> 03:11:07,740
projects to see where we can find

4153
03:11:07,740 --> 03:11:09,600
synergies between the recommendations

4154
03:11:09,600 --> 03:11:11,220
and what we're currently implementing

4155
03:11:11,220 --> 03:11:14,460
okay and then my my next question was

4156
03:11:14,460 --> 03:11:16,740
just you know regarding these projects

4157
03:11:16,740 --> 03:11:19,979
in general is there empirical data that

4158
03:11:19,979 --> 03:11:24,060
shows what level of participation we get

4159
03:11:24,060 --> 03:11:26,939
in communities for each of these types

4160
03:11:26,939 --> 03:11:29,220
of projects so you know what it what is

4161
03:11:29,220 --> 03:11:31,260
the real impact right because people may

4162
03:11:31,260 --> 03:11:33,660
say yeah we'd like to ride our bikes to

4163
03:11:33,660 --> 03:11:36,300
school with our kids but once once the

4164
03:11:36,300 --> 03:11:38,939
routes are in place is there any

4165
03:11:38,939 --> 03:11:40,740
evidence that people actually follow

4166
03:11:40,740 --> 03:11:42,840
through on that commitment yeah so

4167
03:11:42,840 --> 03:11:44,460
um I can bring Jeff up to talk about

4168
03:11:44,460 --> 03:11:46,200
kind of the before and after studies of

4169
03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:49,740
the plan and how we measure if the

4170
03:11:49,740 --> 03:11:51,359
infrastructure or the improvements are

4171
03:11:51,359 --> 03:11:53,100
working yeah

4172
03:11:53,100 --> 03:11:54,779
a great question again Jeff Knowles with

4173
03:11:54,779 --> 03:11:57,479
Alta this gets question asked asked a

4174
03:11:57,479 --> 03:11:58,979
lot about when we make this investment

4175
03:11:58,979 --> 03:12:00,899
are we actually see a return on that the

4176
03:12:00,899 --> 03:12:02,580
answer is yes if you combine the

4177
03:12:02,580 --> 03:12:04,319
engineering with the non-infrastructure

4178
03:12:04,319 --> 03:12:06,000
programs together they kind of work hand

4179
03:12:06,000 --> 03:12:07,680
in hand you can't just have new

4180
03:12:07,680 --> 03:12:09,779
infrastructure and hope for the best so

4181
03:12:09,779 --> 03:12:11,160
that's where this plan really marries

4182
03:12:11,160 --> 03:12:12,960
the two together in partnership with

4183
03:12:12,960 --> 03:12:15,060
school districts with other like the

4184
03:12:15,060 --> 03:12:17,040
County Office of Education provides a

4185
03:12:17,040 --> 03:12:18,960
lot of resources so I think together you

4186
03:12:18,960 --> 03:12:20,100
can see that

4187
03:12:20,100 --> 03:12:22,140
before and after studies Nationwide have

4188
03:12:22,140 --> 03:12:24,779
shown as much as a 20 increase in

4189
03:12:24,779 --> 03:12:26,279
children walking and bicycling to school

4190
03:12:26,279 --> 03:12:28,319
when there is a robust safer to school

4191
03:12:28,319 --> 03:12:30,240
program activated

4192
03:12:30,240 --> 03:12:32,160
okay thank you so it's more than just

4193
03:12:32,160 --> 03:12:33,600
build it and they will come it's more

4194
03:12:33,600 --> 03:12:34,920
than just build it and we come it has to

4195
03:12:34,920 --> 03:12:37,680
be a steady consistent investment all

4196
03:12:37,680 --> 03:12:39,180
right so well thank you and and I also

4197
03:12:39,180 --> 03:12:40,680
wanted to say that it was a very

4198
03:12:40,680 --> 03:12:42,600
impressive report I enjoyed reading it

4199
03:12:42,600 --> 03:12:44,340
so thank you

4200
03:12:44,340 --> 03:12:47,399
vice mayor Hamilton

4201
03:12:47,399 --> 03:12:49,800
uh I also agree it was very impressive

4202
03:12:49,800 --> 03:12:53,160
uh report and um very very comprehensive

4203
03:12:53,160 --> 03:12:55,859
I have a couple of of comments and then

4204
03:12:55,859 --> 03:12:57,899
a question the

4205
03:12:57,899 --> 03:13:01,020
um I'm all I'm also as as

4206
03:13:01,020 --> 03:13:03,840
um the council member Medina mentioned I

4207
03:13:03,840 --> 03:13:06,240
I'm concerned with the overall cost but

4208
03:13:06,240 --> 03:13:09,240
this is the the the in looking through

4209
03:13:09,240 --> 03:13:10,740
all of the

4210
03:13:10,740 --> 03:13:13,740
um all of the uh infrastructure

4211
03:13:13,740 --> 03:13:15,300
recommendations in the report and I did

4212
03:13:15,300 --> 03:13:16,560
that I read through every single one of

4213
03:13:16,560 --> 03:13:17,880
them

4214
03:13:17,880 --> 03:13:20,160
um I could they're all good projects

4215
03:13:20,160 --> 03:13:22,260
every single one of them they're so you

4216
03:13:22,260 --> 03:13:24,240
know I I so I appreciate that we you

4217
03:13:24,240 --> 03:13:25,560
know that we

4218
03:13:25,560 --> 03:13:27,120
um have already done the effort to

4219
03:13:27,120 --> 03:13:29,040
prioritize and and try to put some at

4220
03:13:29,040 --> 03:13:30,060
the top of the list but eventually

4221
03:13:30,060 --> 03:13:32,399
they're all going to

4222
03:13:32,399 --> 03:13:34,859
um and um so what I'm hoping that we'll

4223
03:13:34,859 --> 03:13:36,420
be able to leverage

4224
03:13:36,420 --> 03:13:38,819
um Consultants to do the bulk of the

4225
03:13:38,819 --> 03:13:40,380
design work under supervision from our

4226
03:13:40,380 --> 03:13:41,939
city staff

4227
03:13:41,939 --> 03:13:43,439
um as managers

4228
03:13:43,439 --> 03:13:46,920
um considering that especially if we're able to do these do this work

4229
03:13:46,920 --> 03:13:49,680
with one-time Grant funds

4230
03:13:49,680 --> 03:13:50,700
um

4231
03:13:50,700 --> 03:13:52,979
because it's going to take you know a

4232
03:13:52,979 --> 03:13:55,500
while to get a lot of these projects

4233
03:13:55,500 --> 03:13:58,560
um completed I I agree that the the

4234
03:13:58,560 --> 03:14:00,600
education piece

4235
03:14:00,600 --> 03:14:01,620
um is something that we need to get

4236
03:14:01,620 --> 03:14:03,779
after right away I had one question

4237
03:14:03,779 --> 03:14:08,700
regarding education and um there was a program in place when my

4238
03:14:08,700 --> 03:14:11,460
kids were in elementary school called uh

4239
03:14:11,460 --> 03:14:12,899
stop look wave

4240
03:14:12,899 --> 03:14:16,080
and I I it was and there was there was

4241
03:14:16,080 --> 03:14:17,700
Fanfare about it when it came out and

4242
03:14:17,700 --> 03:14:19,680
then then it kind of went away I don't

4243
03:14:19,680 --> 03:14:20,700
know if that was a school district

4244
03:14:20,700 --> 03:14:24,240
program or if it was a city program

4245
03:14:24,240 --> 03:14:26,100
um and basically what it was was that

4246
03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:28,200
education both for drivers and for

4247
03:14:28,200 --> 03:14:30,840
students to

4248
03:14:30,840 --> 03:14:33,960
um reduce the reduce the danger at

4249
03:14:33,960 --> 03:14:37,380
marked crosswalks meaning that when you

4250
03:14:37,380 --> 03:14:40,500
come to a crosswalk both the driver and

4251
03:14:40,500 --> 03:14:43,160
the people crossing the street

4252
03:14:43,160 --> 03:14:45,600
Endeavor to make eye contact and then

4253
03:14:45,600 --> 03:14:47,279
wait and

4254
03:14:47,279 --> 03:14:49,020
um and and then you know so then when

4255
03:14:49,020 --> 03:14:50,220
you see when you see the wave from the

4256
03:14:50,220 --> 03:14:52,020
driver you know that the driver sees you

4257
03:14:52,020 --> 03:14:54,300
and that you can cross safely

4258
03:14:54,300 --> 03:14:55,859
um I haven't heard anything about this

4259
03:14:55,859 --> 03:14:57,060
and I'm wondering if that's maybe just a

4260
03:14:57,060 --> 03:14:58,680
program that fizzled out and I just

4261
03:14:58,680 --> 03:15:00,479
wondered if if there was any mention of

4262
03:15:00,479 --> 03:15:03,120
that or or or if that came up at all

4263
03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:04,680
during the

4264
03:15:04,680 --> 03:15:06,359
um during the work to put together the

4265
03:15:06,359 --> 03:15:09,830
report

4266
03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:15,840
thank you uh councilmember Hamilton uh that is a good question uh like Jeff

4267
03:15:15,840 --> 03:15:17,760
knows indicated earlier

4268
03:15:17,760 --> 03:15:20,939
we there are various programs that you

4269
03:15:20,939 --> 03:15:23,640
can apply with the infrastructure fixes

4270
03:15:23,640 --> 03:15:25,560
uh you know with safe routes to school

4271
03:15:25,560 --> 03:15:27,479
they talk about the fivees you know

4272
03:15:27,479 --> 03:15:29,580
education enforcement and and all that

4273
03:15:29,580 --> 03:15:31,140
and so

4274
03:15:31,140 --> 03:15:33,359
um I have not specifically heard of that

4275
03:15:33,359 --> 03:15:35,220
program but the way you describe it it

4276
03:15:35,220 --> 03:15:37,560
makes sense right really the goal is to

4277
03:15:37,560 --> 03:15:40,319
make sure uh that the pedestrians and

4278
03:15:40,319 --> 03:15:41,939
the drivers see each other so there are

4279
03:15:41,939 --> 03:15:45,420
no collisions I can check with Jeff uh

4280
03:15:45,420 --> 03:15:47,279
to see if they're if he's aware of that

4281
03:15:47,279 --> 03:15:48,660
type of program

4282
03:15:48,660 --> 03:15:51,800
okay thank you there was a small

4283
03:15:51,800 --> 03:15:53,760
engineering component to it because they

4284
03:15:53,760 --> 03:15:55,620
actually painted the words stop look

4285
03:15:55,620 --> 03:15:58,859
wave in the in the in the crosswalks

4286
03:15:58,859 --> 03:16:00,660
um you know for the for the pedestrians

4287
03:16:00,660 --> 03:16:03,000
to see uh vice mayor thank you for that

4288
03:16:03,000 --> 03:16:04,560
and we've we've noted that when we were

4289
03:16:04,560 --> 03:16:06,000
doing walk on it so we saw that painted

4290
03:16:06,000 --> 03:16:07,680
on a lot of your cross so stop look wave

4291
03:16:07,680 --> 03:16:09,060
and we thought this is look at San Bruno

4292
03:16:09,060 --> 03:16:10,800
leading the way I've never seen any

4293
03:16:10,800 --> 03:16:13,260
other jurisdiction do that so I think

4294
03:16:13,260 --> 03:16:14,399
it's a good thing that we should

4295
03:16:14,399 --> 03:16:16,439
probably talk about maybe more in the

4296
03:16:16,439 --> 03:16:17,939
plan somewhere

4297
03:16:17,939 --> 03:16:20,279
um we don't know what happened to that

4298
03:16:20,279 --> 03:16:21,660
program but it's certainly part of the

4299
03:16:21,660 --> 03:16:23,220
driver awareness campaign that we did

4300
03:16:23,220 --> 03:16:25,319
call out in the plan as a as an activity

4301
03:16:25,319 --> 03:16:27,000
as part of the notification programs I

4302
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:28,279
think the city should

4303
03:16:28,279 --> 03:16:31,080
look at most of them are Grant funded

4304
03:16:31,080 --> 03:16:33,120
through the office of traffic safety and

4305
03:16:33,120 --> 03:16:35,460
so this is one where I assume that it

4306
03:16:35,460 --> 03:16:37,500
had a grant ran its course and it's

4307
03:16:37,500 --> 03:16:38,939
probably not now it's the time to look

4308
03:16:38,939 --> 03:16:42,240
at that again so thank you okay thank

4309
03:16:42,240 --> 03:16:45,550
you for the explanation

4310
03:16:45,560 --> 03:16:49,260
thank you vice mayor uh city manager

4311
03:16:49,260 --> 03:16:50,939
thank you mayor uh Jess with stop

4312
03:16:50,939 --> 03:16:53,700
looking wave uh I am knowledgeable of

4313
03:16:53,700 --> 03:16:56,880
that stenciling that we did and um the

4314
03:16:56,880 --> 03:16:59,819
city does possess the actual stencil and

4315
03:16:59,819 --> 03:17:02,700
our staff does routinely repaint the

4316
03:17:02,700 --> 03:17:05,040
stop looking wave and certainly as we

4317
03:17:05,040 --> 03:17:07,200
look at those high priority projects we

4318
03:17:07,200 --> 03:17:09,479
can check back in with staff and see if

4319
03:17:09,479 --> 03:17:11,100
any of those crosswalks that currently

4320
03:17:11,100 --> 03:17:13,500
have it uh need a refresh and I believe

4321
03:17:13,500 --> 03:17:15,120
it was

4322
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:17,880
I'll just say pre-covet when I last had

4323
03:17:17,880 --> 03:17:19,979
that conversation with staff and we did

4324
03:17:19,979 --> 03:17:22,920
a mini uh overtime program just to make

4325
03:17:22,920 --> 03:17:25,500
sure that um those crosswalks were

4326
03:17:25,500 --> 03:17:27,000
repainted and refreshed with stop

4327
03:17:27,000 --> 03:17:28,620
looking wave but know that we'll look

4328
03:17:28,620 --> 03:17:30,300
into that and we have that stencil and

4329
03:17:30,300 --> 03:17:32,580
that ability in-house

4330
03:17:32,580 --> 03:17:35,460
that's great through the mayor yes um

4331
03:17:35,460 --> 03:17:37,560
that that's that's great news and I'd

4332
03:17:37,560 --> 03:17:40,500
love to hear that and I would think that

4333
03:17:40,500 --> 03:17:42,420
we we Pro it's been a while so we

4334
03:17:42,420 --> 03:17:44,220
probably need to at least do some

4335
03:17:44,220 --> 03:17:47,220
Outreach to remind people what it means

4336
03:17:47,220 --> 03:17:49,140
not just not just paying it make sure

4337
03:17:49,140 --> 03:17:50,399
that it's there but remind people what

4338
03:17:50,399 --> 03:17:52,080
it actually means

4339
03:17:52,080 --> 03:17:55,979
um so that's just a suggestion thank you

4340
03:17:55,979 --> 03:17:58,319
yeah and for me uh I'll try to make it

4341
03:17:58,319 --> 03:18:00,660
brief not to um

4342
03:18:00,660 --> 03:18:02,279
also State what my colleagues have but

4343
03:18:02,279 --> 03:18:04,800
yes very detailed report I want to also

4344
03:18:04,800 --> 03:18:05,880
make mention that we're talking about

4345
03:18:05,880 --> 03:18:08,399
funding sources and obviously from the

4346
03:18:08,399 --> 03:18:10,080
San Mateo County Transportation

4347
03:18:10,080 --> 03:18:12,300
Authority funds were allocated uh for

4348
03:18:12,300 --> 03:18:14,340
this I remember voting on that

4349
03:18:14,340 --> 03:18:16,560
um and in addition obviously I'm not

4350
03:18:16,560 --> 03:18:18,180
going to speak any more about that since

4351
03:18:18,180 --> 03:18:19,620
I serve on that body

4352
03:18:19,620 --> 03:18:21,240
but also there was an item in the report

4353
03:18:21,240 --> 03:18:22,620
about SamTrans and working

4354
03:18:22,620 --> 03:18:24,720
collaboratively a lot of this report is

4355
03:18:24,720 --> 03:18:26,760
about being collaborative a lot on the

4356
03:18:26,760 --> 03:18:29,700
PTO ptas about the school district about

4357
03:18:29,700 --> 03:18:31,319
where where does that all that come

4358
03:18:31,319 --> 03:18:33,479
together as far as trying to get either

4359
03:18:33,479 --> 03:18:36,720
funding grants and or collaboration and

4360
03:18:36,720 --> 03:18:39,600
shall we say skin in the game but on the

4361
03:18:39,600 --> 03:18:41,580
SamTrans I know it alluded to cappuccino

4362
03:18:41,580 --> 03:18:43,880
and Parkside as far as having more buses

4363
03:18:43,880 --> 03:18:47,220
I want to say I can tell you that for

4364
03:18:47,220 --> 03:18:49,260
SamTrans it was a very much a direction

4365
03:18:49,260 --> 03:18:51,779
by the board of directors to have school

4366
03:18:51,779 --> 03:18:55,979
schedules aligned very much staff at the

4367
03:18:55,979 --> 03:18:58,560
transit district went out and tried to

4368
03:18:58,560 --> 03:19:01,319
reach out to all superintendents and the

4369
03:19:01,319 --> 03:19:04,020
districts I can tell you for Parkside as

4370
03:19:04,020 --> 03:19:06,060
an example they did not turn in the

4371
03:19:06,060 --> 03:19:09,120
survey but the Transit District staff

4372
03:19:09,120 --> 03:19:11,279
went online to look up the school

4373
03:19:11,279 --> 03:19:13,979
schedule and do the best they can as far

4374
03:19:13,979 --> 03:19:16,560
as with cappuccino high school it's also

4375
03:19:16,560 --> 03:19:18,779
very close to the El Camino Real route

4376
03:19:18,779 --> 03:19:22,500
so that is very much a hub as far as

4377
03:19:22,500 --> 03:19:25,380
getting to other locations and again we

4378
03:19:25,380 --> 03:19:27,779
also know the fact of everybody who

4379
03:19:27,779 --> 03:19:30,479
wants I'm sure it better in all their

4380
03:19:30,479 --> 03:19:31,880
Community but serving in the county

4381
03:19:31,880 --> 03:19:34,260
sometimes when you're adding routes then

4382
03:19:34,260 --> 03:19:36,060
some routes are going to have to go and

4383
03:19:36,060 --> 03:19:38,880
they're based on obviously ridership

4384
03:19:38,880 --> 03:19:42,240
and economics and the return so I just

4385
03:19:42,240 --> 03:19:43,920
wanted to make that comment on the the

4386
03:19:43,920 --> 03:19:47,100
two Transit District things but it is a

4387
03:19:47,100 --> 03:19:49,380
very detailed report I think council

4388
03:19:49,380 --> 03:19:51,660
member Medina might have said but you

4389
03:19:51,660 --> 03:19:53,060
know

4390
03:19:53,060 --> 03:19:55,800
it's a lot of money and so it's about

4391
03:19:55,800 --> 03:19:58,200
getting what you can get done but it's

4392
03:19:58,200 --> 03:20:00,420
also about trying to uh shall I say

4393
03:20:00,420 --> 03:20:02,640
partner with others and trying to see

4394
03:20:02,640 --> 03:20:04,260
what we can do so but thank you very

4395
03:20:04,260 --> 03:20:05,939
much for the report let me see if

4396
03:20:05,939 --> 03:20:08,640
there's anybody from the public that

4397
03:20:08,640 --> 03:20:10,680
wishes to speak on this topic

4398
03:20:10,680 --> 03:20:13,200
we do not have any speaker cards but we

4399
03:20:13,200 --> 03:20:15,420
have one hand one remote hand raised

4400
03:20:15,420 --> 03:20:18,469
Jennifer Blanco

4401
03:20:18,479 --> 03:20:20,700
and we hear from trustee Blanco please

4402
03:20:20,700 --> 03:20:22,319
Jennifer Blanco whenever you're ready

4403
03:20:22,319 --> 03:20:25,690
you may begin

4404
03:20:25,700 --> 03:20:29,040
how about now yes we can hear you oh

4405
03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:31,560
perfect okay

4406
03:20:31,560 --> 03:20:34,140
um thank you so much I um first of all

4407
03:20:34,140 --> 03:20:37,979
let me Begin by saying wishing everyone

4408
03:20:37,979 --> 03:20:40,500
um a happy New Year just unfortunate

4409
03:20:40,500 --> 03:20:43,260
that we're we started it with all these

4410
03:20:43,260 --> 03:20:46,380
atmospheric reverse storms and so stay

4411
03:20:46,380 --> 03:20:48,540
safe everyone so

4412
03:20:48,540 --> 03:20:49,920
um thank you again for allowing me to

4413
03:20:49,920 --> 03:20:53,100
speak my name is Jennifer Blanco and I

4414
03:20:53,100 --> 03:20:54,720
am one of the trustees on the San Bruno

4415
03:20:54,720 --> 03:20:57,840
Park School District I listened to the

4416
03:20:57,840 --> 03:21:00,540
whole presentation and so I do have some

4417
03:21:00,540 --> 03:21:04,020
questions so if Matt and Jeff would be

4418
03:21:04,020 --> 03:21:05,640
so gracious enough to answer my

4419
03:21:05,640 --> 03:21:08,460
questions I would truly appreciate it

4420
03:21:08,460 --> 03:21:12,120
so um Marty I do have to agree with you

4421
03:21:12,120 --> 03:21:13,920
that we as a community we have many

4422
03:21:13,920 --> 03:21:16,020
community members here who are very

4423
03:21:16,020 --> 03:21:18,120
concerned with our kids and getting them

4424
03:21:18,120 --> 03:21:20,939
safe lead to school and that also

4425
03:21:20,939 --> 03:21:24,300
includes us trustees and so

4426
03:21:24,300 --> 03:21:27,479
um my questions are

4427
03:21:27,479 --> 03:21:31,680
so um I didn't see or read anything as

4428
03:21:31,680 --> 03:21:34,020
unfortunately I'm not able to log on to

4429
03:21:34,020 --> 03:21:36,420
my laptop to watch the meeting but I'm

4430
03:21:36,420 --> 03:21:38,939
watching from my phones it's really hard

4431
03:21:38,939 --> 03:21:41,819
for me to read the presentation

4432
03:21:41,819 --> 03:21:44,880
um I didn't see anything in regards to

4433
03:21:44,880 --> 03:21:49,439
um for partnering with the bike and

4434
03:21:49,439 --> 03:21:52,080
um pedestrian committee and the reason

4435
03:21:52,080 --> 03:21:55,020
why I'm asking that is because I'm going

4436
03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:57,060
to say six or seven principles that go

4437
03:21:57,060 --> 03:22:01,140
from Parkside we did have a fatal

4438
03:22:01,140 --> 03:22:05,160
um uh accident when we had a student who

4439
03:22:05,160 --> 03:22:07,680
took off on a friend's bike and she did

4440
03:22:07,680 --> 03:22:11,660
not know that her um that the bikes

4441
03:22:11,660 --> 03:22:15,240
brakes didn't work and so she flew down

4442
03:22:15,240 --> 03:22:18,359
on Niles and head on

4443
03:22:18,359 --> 03:22:19,080
um

4444
03:22:19,080 --> 03:22:22,859
hit um an oncoming back Shield of a car

4445
03:22:22,859 --> 03:22:24,060
and

4446
03:22:24,060 --> 03:22:26,700
um she passed away

4447
03:22:26,700 --> 03:22:28,080
um I believe she was a seventh or eighth

4448
03:22:28,080 --> 03:22:30,420
grader and Sir her name is Rebecca

4449
03:22:30,420 --> 03:22:31,920
Medrano

4450
03:22:31,920 --> 03:22:34,740
um and so I know that we need a lot of

4451
03:22:34,740 --> 03:22:37,140
Education in regards to

4452
03:22:37,140 --> 03:22:39,359
um to our kids and just letting them

4453
03:22:39,359 --> 03:22:41,160
know that there's you got to be safe

4454
03:22:41,160 --> 03:22:43,560
when you're out there on the streets

4455
03:22:43,560 --> 03:22:46,680
um last year also in regarding I kept

4456
03:22:46,680 --> 03:22:49,080
hearing pedestrian disability with the

4457
03:22:49,080 --> 03:22:52,800
congestion congestion on Niles last year

4458
03:22:52,800 --> 03:22:55,439
a student ran out from between the cars

4459
03:22:55,439 --> 03:22:58,020
and it just so happened that I saw it

4460
03:22:58,020 --> 03:23:00,720
myself he ran into a car and he hit the

4461
03:23:00,720 --> 03:23:03,899
car and then he fell down to the street

4462
03:23:03,899 --> 03:23:06,540
I know a lot of Education we need we

4463
03:23:06,540 --> 03:23:09,660
need to really push that education to

4464
03:23:09,660 --> 03:23:11,399
our to all of our families throughout

4465
03:23:11,399 --> 03:23:13,800
the school district and so

4466
03:23:13,800 --> 03:23:16,020
um the other thing too is

4467
03:23:16,020 --> 03:23:17,640
um

4468
03:23:17,640 --> 03:23:20,640
so I would I was I'm just wondering if

4469
03:23:20,640 --> 03:23:21,420
um

4470
03:23:21,420 --> 03:23:24,479
if it's possible I would really

4471
03:23:24,479 --> 03:23:27,600
appreciate it if the school board could

4472
03:23:27,600 --> 03:23:30,899
have this presentation and so my my one

4473
03:23:30,899 --> 03:23:32,760
of my questions so my question was for

4474
03:23:32,760 --> 03:23:35,760
the partnership with the bike and um but

4475
03:23:35,760 --> 03:23:37,680
The Pedestrian committee and also when

4476
03:23:37,680 --> 03:23:39,060
will the school district receive this

4477
03:23:39,060 --> 03:23:41,279
presentation and thank you for the time

4478
03:23:41,279 --> 03:23:44,760
thank you very much uh trustee Blanco is

4479
03:23:44,760 --> 03:23:45,960
there any

4480
03:23:45,960 --> 03:23:48,660
plans to uh you've already been working

4481
03:23:48,660 --> 03:23:50,520
with the schools right but will they be

4482
03:23:50,520 --> 03:23:52,739
also have the availability to the

4483
03:23:52,739 --> 03:23:56,700
reporter reach out to or is that not

4484
03:23:56,700 --> 03:23:59,640
known uh so we've we've worked with the

4485
03:23:59,640 --> 03:24:01,920
schools and our bicycle pedestrian

4486
03:24:01,920 --> 03:24:04,200
advisory committee and as well as our

4487
03:24:04,200 --> 03:24:06,800
tspc uh we've worked with them as well

4488
03:24:06,800 --> 03:24:10,020
uh as part of our efforts

4489
03:24:10,020 --> 03:24:13,680
um it was we were not going as part of

4490
03:24:13,680 --> 03:24:14,880
the consultant scope we weren't going to

4491
03:24:14,880 --> 03:24:16,500
go to the school district and make a

4492
03:24:16,500 --> 03:24:18,540
presentation but

4493
03:24:18,540 --> 03:24:20,819
uh

4494
03:24:20,819 --> 03:24:22,380
you would need to have that through the

4495
03:24:22,380 --> 03:24:27,000
appropriate accounts I'm sorry city

4496
03:24:27,000 --> 03:24:29,399
manager thank you mayor um we will look

4497
03:24:29,399 --> 03:24:31,979
into uh communicating with the school

4498
03:24:31,979 --> 03:24:33,779
board and seeing if it's possible to

4499
03:24:33,779 --> 03:24:37,739
have a presentation provided to them

4500
03:24:37,739 --> 03:24:39,660
thank you

4501
03:24:39,660 --> 03:24:42,300
um and thank you very much and I also

4502
03:24:42,300 --> 03:24:44,340
wanted to say I I did I forgot with the

4503
03:24:44,340 --> 03:24:47,700
15 Mile uh per hour I brought that up

4504
03:24:47,700 --> 03:24:49,920
and I didn't realize it was April but it

4505
03:24:49,920 --> 03:24:51,779
was a while ago and I thank all my

4506
03:24:51,779 --> 03:24:52,979
colleagues because they were concurrence

4507
03:24:52,979 --> 03:24:55,200
100 about that that's important so those

4508
03:24:55,200 --> 03:24:56,880
are the things that I think we should

4509
03:24:56,880 --> 03:24:58,859
move on that are immediate of concern

4510
03:24:58,859 --> 03:25:01,080
and safety so but with that

4511
03:25:01,080 --> 03:25:02,760
um thank you both very much and thank

4512
03:25:02,760 --> 03:25:05,279
you for being here and being patient

4513
03:25:05,279 --> 03:25:07,140
this evening we appreciate it

4514
03:25:07,140 --> 03:25:10,380
all right thank you with the hour of 10

4515
03:25:10,380 --> 03:25:13,800
30 at this time uh we as our new policy

4516
03:25:13,800 --> 03:25:16,739
is we have conduct a business and

4517
03:25:16,739 --> 03:25:19,080
comments from Council Members which

4518
03:25:19,080 --> 03:25:20,819
would mean we would normally conclude at

4519
03:25:20,819 --> 03:25:21,620
11

4520
03:25:21,620 --> 03:25:24,600
unless we have a motion and a vote to

4521
03:25:24,600 --> 03:25:27,479
exceed that so I just want to be as is

4522
03:25:27,479 --> 03:25:29,880
it more than just a check-in and and

4523
03:25:29,880 --> 03:25:31,380
then if we get close we will see that

4524
03:25:31,380 --> 03:25:33,720
Council wants to exceed the time

4525
03:25:33,720 --> 03:25:35,160
thank you sir

4526
03:25:35,160 --> 03:25:37,140
but again if you if we haven't taken

4527
03:25:37,140 --> 03:25:39,060
action or began the topic prior to 11

4528
03:25:39,060 --> 03:25:41,580
then that will need to be extended so

4529
03:25:41,580 --> 03:25:43,080
with that why don't we move to conduct

4530
03:25:43,080 --> 03:25:48,110
of business

4531
03:25:48,120 --> 03:25:51,960
item nine a introduce read by title and

4532
03:25:51,960 --> 03:25:53,640
wave further reading of an ordinance

4533
03:25:53,640 --> 03:25:56,939
adding chapter 2.33 to the San Bruno

4534
03:25:56,939 --> 03:25:58,560
Municipal Code adopting local

4535
03:25:58,560 --> 03:26:01,560
contribution limits for city council

4536
03:26:01,560 --> 03:26:03,960
elections

4537
03:26:03,960 --> 03:26:05,939
a City attorney I was going to say you

4538
03:26:05,939 --> 03:26:16,370
could have done it there but

4539
03:26:16,380 --> 03:26:18,420
hello mayor Medina and City Council

4540
03:26:18,420 --> 03:26:21,120
Members I'm returning to you with our

4541
03:26:21,120 --> 03:26:24,779
item on considering a ordinance to

4542
03:26:24,779 --> 03:26:27,060
establish local campaign contribution

4543
03:26:27,060 --> 03:26:31,309
limits

4544
03:26:31,319 --> 03:26:35,929
there it is

4545
03:26:35,939 --> 03:26:39,540
foreign so here's an outline of what I'm

4546
03:26:39,540 --> 03:26:40,680
going to be discussing I'm going to give

4547
03:26:40,680 --> 03:26:41,939
you a little bit of background an

4548
03:26:41,939 --> 03:26:45,779
overview of the uh the regulations

4549
03:26:45,779 --> 03:26:47,880
the proposed ordinance and then a

4550
03:26:47,880 --> 03:26:54,650
recommended action

4551
03:26:54,660 --> 03:26:57,479
so as you'll recall back in March of

4552
03:26:57,479 --> 03:26:59,939
2022 you held a study session on a

4553
03:26:59,939 --> 03:27:01,939
number of potential ballot items

4554
03:27:01,939 --> 03:27:05,220
including whether or not you would like

4555
03:27:05,220 --> 03:27:07,020
to establish campaign contribution

4556
03:27:07,020 --> 03:27:08,760
limits

4557
03:27:08,760 --> 03:27:10,439
um as part of that study session you

4558
03:27:10,439 --> 03:27:12,180
directed staff to come back with a

4559
03:27:12,180 --> 03:27:14,760
ordinance not to create not to have a

4560
03:27:14,760 --> 03:27:17,040
ballot measure but instead to consider

4561
03:27:17,040 --> 03:27:19,859
an ordinance of the city council

4562
03:27:19,859 --> 03:27:21,840
we brought that ordinance back to you

4563
03:27:21,840 --> 03:27:25,439
December 13th of 2022 you considered it

4564
03:27:25,439 --> 03:27:28,800
um and raised questions about a

4565
03:27:28,800 --> 03:27:30,660
provision prohibiting Anonymous

4566
03:27:30,660 --> 03:27:32,460
donations

4567
03:27:32,460 --> 03:27:35,220
and requested staff to to return with an

4568
03:27:35,220 --> 03:27:36,660
ordinance that does not impose

4569
03:27:36,660 --> 03:27:39,000
requirements that are in addition to the

4570
03:27:39,000 --> 03:27:41,640
existing requirements in the political

4571
03:27:41,640 --> 03:27:44,340
reform act and I'll get back to that

4572
03:27:44,340 --> 03:27:47,340
after just giving continuing to give you

4573
03:27:47,340 --> 03:27:48,840
a little bit of a background about the

4574
03:27:48,840 --> 03:27:53,840
ordinance so as you may recall in 2021

4575
03:27:53,840 --> 03:27:57,000
there are beginning in 2021 the state

4576
03:27:57,000 --> 03:28:00,120
established local camp or Statewide

4577
03:28:00,120 --> 03:28:02,939
campaign contribution limits that apply

4578
03:28:02,939 --> 03:28:05,100
by default when a city has not already

4579
03:28:05,100 --> 03:28:08,520
enacted its own local limits the default

4580
03:28:08,520 --> 03:28:11,100
contribution was four thousand nine

4581
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:14,279
hundred dollars for the years 2021 and

4582
03:28:14,279 --> 03:28:17,460
2022 and the legislation provides for

4583
03:28:17,460 --> 03:28:20,460
that amount to be adjusted

4584
03:28:20,460 --> 03:28:23,399
every two years for inflation so it was

4585
03:28:23,399 --> 03:28:26,700
just recently updated and the new limit

4586
03:28:26,700 --> 03:28:30,590
is 5500.

4587
03:28:30,600 --> 03:28:32,160
um and then when you were looking at

4588
03:28:32,160 --> 03:28:34,319
this we presented you with a table

4589
03:28:34,319 --> 03:28:37,500
showing the various local campaign

4590
03:28:37,500 --> 03:28:42,319
Finance regulations for cities in nearby

4591
03:28:42,319 --> 03:28:46,790
on the peninsula here

4592
03:28:46,800 --> 03:28:49,380
the ordinance that we provided

4593
03:28:49,380 --> 03:28:50,060
um

4594
03:28:50,060 --> 03:28:53,100
provides a prohibits contributions from

4595
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:55,080
a person to a candidate in excess of

4596
03:28:55,080 --> 03:28:56,640
five hundred dollars

4597
03:28:56,640 --> 03:28:58,500
the limit does not apply to

4598
03:28:58,500 --> 03:29:00,120
contributions of a candidate's own

4599
03:29:00,120 --> 03:29:01,859
personal funds to a candidate's own

4600
03:29:01,859 --> 03:29:04,859
campaign and it requires a statement to

4601
03:29:04,859 --> 03:29:07,380
be included on all campaign

4602
03:29:07,380 --> 03:29:10,560
contributions solicitations here's the

4603
03:29:10,560 --> 03:29:13,260
there's the uh the notice I won't read

4604
03:29:13,260 --> 03:29:16,380
it it's also in the ordinance

4605
03:29:16,380 --> 03:29:17,160
um

4606
03:29:17,160 --> 03:29:18,899
the ordinance does not apply to

4607
03:29:18,899 --> 03:29:20,340
campaigns for a ballot measure

4608
03:29:20,340 --> 03:29:22,920
referendum or initiative it requires

4609
03:29:22,920 --> 03:29:25,500
electronic filing of campaign statements

4610
03:29:25,500 --> 03:29:28,319
it established penalties and provided

4611
03:29:28,319 --> 03:29:31,020
additional enforcement tools

4612
03:29:31,020 --> 03:29:32,520
and I'm just going to quickly go over

4613
03:29:32,520 --> 03:29:34,140
this because we already looked at this

4614
03:29:34,140 --> 03:29:37,260
before and here is the key of why we're

4615
03:29:37,260 --> 03:29:39,720
coming back the proposed ordinance

4616
03:29:39,720 --> 03:29:41,939
prohibited Anonymous contributions in

4617
03:29:41,939 --> 03:29:44,760
any amount which essentially imposed a

4618
03:29:44,760 --> 03:29:47,580
requirement to track uh the source of

4619
03:29:47,580 --> 03:29:49,439
all contributions and the question was

4620
03:29:49,439 --> 03:29:52,979
does this impose a requirement on

4621
03:29:52,979 --> 03:29:55,260
candidates that exceeds what's already

4622
03:29:55,260 --> 03:29:57,779
in the political reform Act

4623
03:29:57,779 --> 03:30:00,239
so under the political reform act there

4624
03:30:00,239 --> 03:30:02,939
is a clear prohibition to receive

4625
03:30:02,939 --> 03:30:04,859
Anonymous contributions of a hundred

4626
03:30:04,859 --> 03:30:07,200
dollars or more from any person

4627
03:30:07,200 --> 03:30:09,300
and also in the political reform act

4628
03:30:09,300 --> 03:30:12,359
there's a requirement to report when the

4629
03:30:12,359 --> 03:30:14,460
total amount of contributions received

4630
03:30:14,460 --> 03:30:18,359
from any person exceeds 100 or more

4631
03:30:18,359 --> 03:30:20,220
so these two Provisions together

4632
03:30:20,220 --> 03:30:22,920
actually are an applied obligation to

4633
03:30:22,920 --> 03:30:24,720
track contributions under a hundred

4634
03:30:24,720 --> 03:30:27,720
dollars because you'd have to know if

4635
03:30:27,720 --> 03:30:29,939
somebody gave you fifty dollars if you

4636
03:30:29,939 --> 03:30:31,920
got another fifty dollars did that come

4637
03:30:31,920 --> 03:30:34,979
from the same person so

4638
03:30:34,979 --> 03:30:36,899
the ordinance that I'm bringing back to

4639
03:30:36,899 --> 03:30:38,640
you is the same ordinance that you

4640
03:30:38,640 --> 03:30:41,760
looked at in December

4641
03:30:41,760 --> 03:30:45,660
and the question to you is are you

4642
03:30:45,660 --> 03:30:48,660
satisfied with having explicit the

4643
03:30:48,660 --> 03:30:51,720
obligation to track obligations

4644
03:30:51,720 --> 03:30:54,479
under a hundred dollars or do you want

4645
03:30:54,479 --> 03:30:57,300
to remove that obligation so that you

4646
03:30:57,300 --> 03:31:00,300
are uh so so you don't have this clear

4647
03:31:00,300 --> 03:31:01,800
requirement

4648
03:31:01,800 --> 03:31:04,859
um and you are more clearly aligned

4649
03:31:04,859 --> 03:31:06,720
with the specific language of the

4650
03:31:06,720 --> 03:31:09,300
political reform Act

4651
03:31:09,300 --> 03:31:11,580
so there's two potential recommended

4652
03:31:11,580 --> 03:31:14,819
actions the first is to if you're going

4653
03:31:14,819 --> 03:31:17,220
to establish the campaign contribution

4654
03:31:17,220 --> 03:31:20,939
limits you can have the motion is to

4655
03:31:20,939 --> 03:31:22,680
introduce read by title only and wave

4656
03:31:22,680 --> 03:31:24,600
further reading of an ordinance adding

4657
03:31:24,600 --> 03:31:27,840
chapter 2.33 to the San Bruno Municipal

4658
03:31:27,840 --> 03:31:29,340
Code adopting local campaign

4659
03:31:29,340 --> 03:31:31,560
contribution limits in the alternative

4660
03:31:31,560 --> 03:31:33,479
motion if you want to remove the

4661
03:31:33,479 --> 03:31:34,859
prohibition against Anonymous

4662
03:31:34,859 --> 03:31:37,140
contributions would be to make that same

4663
03:31:37,140 --> 03:31:40,439
motion but also direct or to specify

4664
03:31:40,439 --> 03:31:43,020
that the ordinance you're adopting would

4665
03:31:43,020 --> 03:31:46,380
uh Delete paragraph B of section

4666
03:31:46,380 --> 03:31:49,670
2.33.030

4667
03:31:49,680 --> 03:31:51,540
and with that I'm happy to take any

4668
03:31:51,540 --> 03:31:57,650
questions any questions from colleagues

4669
03:31:57,660 --> 03:31:58,319
um

4670
03:31:58,319 --> 03:32:01,439
questions council member questions yes

4671
03:32:01,439 --> 03:32:02,460
please

4672
03:32:02,460 --> 03:32:03,660
so

4673
03:32:03,660 --> 03:32:06,920
for clarification on the

4674
03:32:06,920 --> 03:32:09,300
anonymous donations

4675
03:32:09,300 --> 03:32:10,319
so

4676
03:32:10,319 --> 03:32:12,720
there's a distinction I guess between

4677
03:32:12,720 --> 03:32:15,840
tracking and Reporting correct right and

4678
03:32:15,840 --> 03:32:18,720
so what we're required to report is

4679
03:32:18,720 --> 03:32:21,000
anything that exceeds a hundred dollars

4680
03:32:21,000 --> 03:32:24,359
from an individual correct so

4681
03:32:24,359 --> 03:32:28,620
if we are to specify an R

4682
03:32:28,620 --> 03:32:31,680
uh ordinance that we

4683
03:32:31,680 --> 03:32:35,100
do not allow Anonymous does that imply

4684
03:32:35,100 --> 03:32:37,739
also that we are required to report it

4685
03:32:37,739 --> 03:32:40,800
does not no it is it is merely an

4686
03:32:40,800 --> 03:32:43,080
obligation to not accept an anonymous

4687
03:32:43,080 --> 03:32:46,800
donation it is just an obligation to

4688
03:32:46,800 --> 03:32:48,899
inquire as to the source of that

4689
03:32:48,899 --> 03:32:50,880
information have some way of tracking it

4690
03:32:50,880 --> 03:32:52,560
but you're not there's no reporting

4691
03:32:52,560 --> 03:32:54,720
requirements the

4692
03:32:54,720 --> 03:32:55,500
um

4693
03:32:55,500 --> 03:32:57,660
the ordinance does not change the

4694
03:32:57,660 --> 03:32:59,580
reporting requirements they are what

4695
03:32:59,580 --> 03:33:04,279
they are in the political reform act the form requires the reporting of all

4696
03:33:04,279 --> 03:33:07,979
donations from any source of 100 or more

4697
03:33:07,979 --> 03:33:10,859
and since that is covered under the fppc

4698
03:33:10,859 --> 03:33:13,739
guidelines then is it necessary for us

4699
03:33:13,739 --> 03:33:19,620
to state that if it's already covered by existing

4700
03:33:19,620 --> 03:33:22,020
legislation right

4701
03:33:22,020 --> 03:33:24,960
um so the way I look at it is kind of we

4702
03:33:24,960 --> 03:33:27,300
had the question come up in December

4703
03:33:27,300 --> 03:33:29,939
what does this mean so I think by

4704
03:33:29,939 --> 03:33:32,700
stating it you make it very clear that

4705
03:33:32,700 --> 03:33:36,300
we are requiring the source of all

4706
03:33:36,300 --> 03:33:40,560
donations to be identified and to track

4707
03:33:40,560 --> 03:33:43,319
it is implied I think in the current

4708
03:33:43,319 --> 03:33:45,359
regulations but it's not specifically

4709
03:33:45,359 --> 03:33:47,580
stated which I think is why we had the

4710
03:33:47,580 --> 03:33:49,020
question and I had to go back and look

4711
03:33:49,020 --> 03:33:51,120
at it and come back to you with this

4712
03:33:51,120 --> 03:33:53,040
discussion so

4713
03:33:53,040 --> 03:33:53,640
um

4714
03:33:53,640 --> 03:33:56,100
I guess my answer is by by adding it

4715
03:33:56,100 --> 03:33:58,560
you're just making it very clear that

4716
03:33:58,560 --> 03:34:01,920
this is the proper way to track how you

4717
03:34:01,920 --> 03:34:04,380
receive contributions

4718
03:34:04,380 --> 03:34:07,380
and my next question you may have to

4719
03:34:07,380 --> 03:34:11,300
defer to somebody else and staff but

4720
03:34:11,300 --> 03:34:14,819
when we run for office the county

4721
03:34:14,819 --> 03:34:18,540
provides instruction on how we conduct

4722
03:34:18,540 --> 03:34:20,819
our campaigns and what our regulations

4723
03:34:20,819 --> 03:34:24,239
are so will the city now assume the

4724
03:34:24,239 --> 03:34:26,520
responsibility of conducting its own

4725
03:34:26,520 --> 03:34:28,739
education campaign for new candidates

4726
03:34:28,739 --> 03:34:31,200
that address its own

4727
03:34:31,200 --> 03:34:34,380
specific guidelines and if so will that

4728
03:34:34,380 --> 03:34:36,239
be conducted by the city clerk's office

4729
03:34:36,239 --> 03:34:39,840
and what what is the impact yeah so I'm

4730
03:34:39,840 --> 03:34:41,939
happy to turn this over to staff but I

4731
03:34:41,939 --> 03:34:45,060
guess my initial thought is that it's

4732
03:34:45,060 --> 03:34:46,500
just an ordinance like any other

4733
03:34:46,500 --> 03:34:49,560
ordinance that says here's our rules

4734
03:34:49,560 --> 03:34:52,760
um I don't know that it requires much

4735
03:34:52,760 --> 03:34:55,380
education Beyond here's what the rules

4736
03:34:55,380 --> 03:34:57,540
are which is the limit the limit for

4737
03:34:57,540 --> 03:35:00,300
campaign contributions 500 dollars

4738
03:35:00,300 --> 03:35:02,700
there is no there is a Prohibition

4739
03:35:02,700 --> 03:35:04,439
against

4740
03:35:04,439 --> 03:35:06,720
um Anonymous contributions so to the

4741
03:35:06,720 --> 03:35:08,760
extent there is any education I suppose

4742
03:35:08,760 --> 03:35:11,880
it could be as simple as handing a

4743
03:35:11,880 --> 03:35:13,979
candidate the city's ordinance or

4744
03:35:13,979 --> 03:35:16,260
directing the the candidate to the

4745
03:35:16,260 --> 03:35:17,279
cities

4746
03:35:17,279 --> 03:35:18,060
um

4747
03:35:18,060 --> 03:35:21,720
the municipal code I do know that I I

4748
03:35:21,720 --> 03:35:24,600
believe that the city clerk provides a

4749
03:35:24,600 --> 03:35:28,319
handbook to candidates and we probably

4750
03:35:28,319 --> 03:35:31,859
could quite easily wrap these new

4751
03:35:31,859 --> 03:35:34,800
Provisions into that either by again

4752
03:35:34,800 --> 03:35:36,359
attaching the ordinance or just

4753
03:35:36,359 --> 03:35:39,060
summarizing the key provisions

4754
03:35:39,060 --> 03:35:41,640
so we do meet we do meet with each

4755
03:35:41,640 --> 03:35:44,520
candidate individually and explain the

4756
03:35:44,520 --> 03:35:46,979
documents and go over the forms so that

4757
03:35:46,979 --> 03:35:48,060
would be something that we would

4758
03:35:48,060 --> 03:35:50,460
definitely go over and explain with each

4759
03:35:50,460 --> 03:35:54,660
candidate that is running for office

4760
03:35:54,660 --> 03:35:58,140
and then uh finally there there is a

4761
03:35:58,140 --> 03:36:01,140
language in there that says that uh

4762
03:36:01,140 --> 03:36:05,279
individuals have the option to

4763
03:36:05,279 --> 03:36:06,300
um

4764
03:36:06,300 --> 03:36:08,819
basically seek legal action against a

4765
03:36:08,819 --> 03:36:10,620
candidate if they feel that they've

4766
03:36:10,620 --> 03:36:13,739
violated it and the city has basically

4767
03:36:13,739 --> 03:36:15,660
right a first refusal to address the

4768
03:36:15,660 --> 03:36:17,580
issue if they choose not to that an

4769
03:36:17,580 --> 03:36:19,979
individual could still sue a candidate

4770
03:36:19,979 --> 03:36:22,979
for uh non-compliance based on their

4771
03:36:22,979 --> 03:36:24,359
interpretation

4772
03:36:24,359 --> 03:36:25,680
now

4773
03:36:25,680 --> 03:36:27,960
I don't believe that there's anything

4774
03:36:27,960 --> 03:36:30,899
currently uh that the state does other

4775
03:36:30,899 --> 03:36:34,200
than impose fines for violations so this

4776
03:36:34,200 --> 03:36:36,300
pretty much makes it a crime

4777
03:36:36,300 --> 03:36:39,779
to willingly uh so somebody all somebody

4778
03:36:39,779 --> 03:36:41,640
would have to do is say that no they

4779
03:36:41,640 --> 03:36:43,260
should have known better and so they

4780
03:36:43,260 --> 03:36:45,300
willingly broke the law now they're

4781
03:36:45,300 --> 03:36:47,160
basically

4782
03:36:47,160 --> 03:36:47,880
um

4783
03:36:47,880 --> 03:36:50,640
having to having to pay an additional so

4784
03:36:50,640 --> 03:36:53,340
not just fine but of actually paying for

4785
03:36:53,340 --> 03:36:56,520
a violation of a of a city

4786
03:36:56,520 --> 03:36:57,180
um

4787
03:36:57,180 --> 03:37:00,779
ordinance and so that that also is sort

4788
03:37:00,779 --> 03:37:03,779
of above and beyond uh I believe of the

4789
03:37:03,779 --> 03:37:06,300
penalty that the state would impose

4790
03:37:06,300 --> 03:37:09,239
right so there is so

4791
03:37:09,239 --> 03:37:12,840
provide penalties similar to other code

4792
03:37:12,840 --> 03:37:15,239
violations there's the you know

4793
03:37:15,239 --> 03:37:16,800
infraction and misdemeanor

4794
03:37:16,800 --> 03:37:18,840
administrative fine those are all

4795
03:37:18,840 --> 03:37:21,600
options for the city to enforce and then

4796
03:37:21,600 --> 03:37:23,880
the additional enforcement tools do

4797
03:37:23,880 --> 03:37:25,800
include include a private right of

4798
03:37:25,800 --> 03:37:28,920
action which would be a private citizen

4799
03:37:28,920 --> 03:37:33,359
bringing a private lawsuit so not saying

4800
03:37:33,359 --> 03:37:36,180
um yeah so so it would just be a civil

4801
03:37:36,180 --> 03:37:40,319
suit it wouldn't be a Criminal suit

4802
03:37:40,319 --> 03:37:42,120
but the

4803
03:37:42,120 --> 03:37:43,920
so

4804
03:37:43,920 --> 03:37:45,600
there is something in there that says

4805
03:37:45,600 --> 03:37:49,500
that if a candidate willfully violates

4806
03:37:49,500 --> 03:37:51,779
this these Provisions then it is an

4807
03:37:51,779 --> 03:37:53,040
infraction

4808
03:37:53,040 --> 03:37:56,520
not just a final mistake

4809
03:37:56,520 --> 03:37:59,040
of the way the fppc would interpret it

4810
03:37:59,040 --> 03:38:00,420
but actually

4811
03:38:00,420 --> 03:38:02,760
you're you're breaking a rule and then

4812
03:38:02,760 --> 03:38:06,180
so you're subject to a fine because of

4813
03:38:06,180 --> 03:38:08,580
that and then on top of that private

4814
03:38:08,580 --> 03:38:11,640
citizens can also step in and um and

4815
03:38:11,640 --> 03:38:13,439
take action that is correct the way it's

4816
03:38:13,439 --> 03:38:15,600
set up that is correct

4817
03:38:15,600 --> 03:38:19,020
oh that that's it just and then I

4818
03:38:19,020 --> 03:38:20,399
certainly want to hear from the rest of

4819
03:38:20,399 --> 03:38:22,200
colleagues I thought back in December

4820
03:38:22,200 --> 03:38:24,000
13th one of the things were like the

4821
03:38:24,000 --> 03:38:25,859
state does this and we don't want to

4822
03:38:25,859 --> 03:38:28,500
exceed that right and and I think

4823
03:38:28,500 --> 03:38:30,120
council member sellers are brought up a

4824
03:38:30,120 --> 03:38:30,920
very

4825
03:38:30,920 --> 03:38:34,080
quite the state awarding imposed then

4826
03:38:34,080 --> 03:38:36,000
assembly uh person Mullen already

4827
03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:37,200
established something for the State of

4828
03:38:37,200 --> 03:38:38,040
California

4829
03:38:38,040 --> 03:38:39,899
and then jurisdictions have that ability

4830
03:38:39,899 --> 03:38:42,960
to to exceed it but not you can't have

4831
03:38:42,960 --> 03:38:45,120
less than it so then the council said

4832
03:38:45,120 --> 03:38:46,439
okay we want to go through this process

4833
03:38:46,439 --> 03:38:48,120
and I think the reason it pauses on this

4834
03:38:48,120 --> 03:38:50,880
December 13th specifically was because

4835
03:38:50,880 --> 03:38:54,060
it was a reporting mechanism of uh below

4836
03:38:54,060 --> 03:38:57,300
90 uh 99 and below and I think that's

4837
03:38:57,300 --> 03:38:58,920
what we're trying to get and not have

4838
03:38:58,920 --> 03:39:03,000
all these extras and um again due to the

4839
03:39:03,000 --> 03:39:05,460
hour some of the areas that Mr sellers

4840
03:39:05,460 --> 03:39:07,319
are just pointed out are the concerns

4841
03:39:07,319 --> 03:39:08,700
I've had and that's what I had in the

4842
03:39:08,700 --> 03:39:11,220
13. so it's still I still have those

4843
03:39:11,220 --> 03:39:13,680
concerns but anyway let me see my other

4844
03:39:13,680 --> 03:39:19,070
colleagues councilmember Medina

4845
03:39:19,080 --> 03:39:22,620
right so I think less is more

4846
03:39:22,620 --> 03:39:27,300
in this case of of keeping it to

4847
03:39:27,300 --> 03:39:29,580
um whatever the state says and the only

4848
03:39:29,580 --> 03:39:31,500
thing we're changing is the limit

4849
03:39:31,500 --> 03:39:33,779
everything else Remains the Same I think

4850
03:39:33,779 --> 03:39:36,479
is probably what I understood the

4851
03:39:36,479 --> 03:39:38,520
council wanted to do

4852
03:39:38,520 --> 03:39:40,200
um it's nice to see that there are

4853
03:39:40,200 --> 03:39:42,720
penalties but

4854
03:39:42,720 --> 03:39:47,279
um I don't mind if we kept those but

4855
03:39:47,279 --> 03:39:49,380
I'm feeling like

4856
03:39:49,380 --> 03:39:52,859
to keep it more streamlined that just

4857
03:39:52,859 --> 03:39:54,620
having the limit

4858
03:39:54,620 --> 03:39:57,300
eliminating the the tracking because

4859
03:39:57,300 --> 03:40:00,060
let's let the state do that it's up to

4860
03:40:00,060 --> 03:40:02,819
each candidate but um I think if we kind

4861
03:40:02,819 --> 03:40:07,680
of just kept it really streamlined and achieved just to make sure I

4862
03:40:07,680 --> 03:40:10,500
understand the comment I the state has

4863
03:40:10,500 --> 03:40:13,080
enforcement measures for so we're not

4864
03:40:13,080 --> 03:40:14,700
adding any additional reporting

4865
03:40:14,700 --> 03:40:16,500
requirements we're just limiting we're

4866
03:40:16,500 --> 03:40:19,020
establishing a limit and then we're also

4867
03:40:19,020 --> 03:40:22,140
providing this this ordinance also

4868
03:40:22,140 --> 03:40:25,500
provides penalties for failure to comply

4869
03:40:25,500 --> 03:40:27,660
with the ordinance similar to any other

4870
03:40:27,660 --> 03:40:30,359
code violation I don't believe the state

4871
03:40:30,359 --> 03:40:32,720
is going to enforce your 500

4872
03:40:32,720 --> 03:40:34,979
contribution limit

4873
03:40:34,979 --> 03:40:37,319
the city would need to have some sort of

4874
03:40:37,319 --> 03:40:38,100
a

4875
03:40:38,100 --> 03:40:41,040
it's it's the city's ordinance and the

4876
03:40:41,040 --> 03:40:43,380
city needs to have penalty if if it

4877
03:40:43,380 --> 03:40:45,660
wants to have teeth

4878
03:40:45,660 --> 03:40:47,640
it needs to include that in the

4879
03:40:47,640 --> 03:40:49,439
ordinance yeah had we stayed with the

4880
03:40:49,439 --> 03:40:51,239
state then the state tracks it it's

4881
03:40:51,239 --> 03:40:53,160
their responsibility because we are

4882
03:40:53,160 --> 03:40:55,140
modifying that correctly and we are

4883
03:40:55,140 --> 03:40:56,779
sitting in the limit now the stability

4884
03:40:56,779 --> 03:40:59,640
that so extra work is now being placed

4885
03:40:59,640 --> 03:41:01,500
in the city of San Bruno for that

4886
03:41:01,500 --> 03:41:03,120
ownership I've already heard my comments

4887
03:41:03,120 --> 03:41:05,700
but now we're adding a penalty and stuff

4888
03:41:05,700 --> 03:41:08,939
I don't know a policy needed um

4889
03:41:08,939 --> 03:41:12,779
so with your explanation of of guests

4890
03:41:12,779 --> 03:41:16,439
if if a candidate did write and Report

4891
03:41:16,439 --> 03:41:18,540
that they took six hundred dollars from

4892
03:41:18,540 --> 03:41:20,040
somebody then they'd be in violation

4893
03:41:20,040 --> 03:41:22,560
society when there are no consequences

4894
03:41:22,560 --> 03:41:24,960
then people just go ahead and do it and

4895
03:41:24,960 --> 03:41:27,239
so what's the point

4896
03:41:27,239 --> 03:41:29,100
of having the rule if you're not and as

4897
03:41:29,100 --> 03:41:32,040
for the amount of time tracking

4898
03:41:32,040 --> 03:41:34,580
basically when we file our our updated

4899
03:41:34,580 --> 03:41:37,920
reports to the state that gets a copy to

4900
03:41:37,920 --> 03:41:43,319
our city clerk I'm for enforcement and the city clerk can chime in here but

4901
03:41:43,319 --> 03:41:45,439
I but the ordinance does require

4902
03:41:45,439 --> 03:41:47,700
electronic filing which I think is

4903
03:41:47,700 --> 03:41:50,160
intended to Yes

4904
03:41:50,160 --> 03:41:53,040
um so back on the um

4905
03:41:53,040 --> 03:41:56,100
on the anonymous donations piece there

4906
03:41:56,100 --> 03:41:57,420
was there are discussion whether we

4907
03:41:57,420 --> 03:41:59,279
should remove that language to make

4908
03:41:59,279 --> 03:42:02,399
things simpler and I'm not in favor of

4909
03:42:02,399 --> 03:42:05,460
that well let me ask my question first

4910
03:42:05,460 --> 03:42:10,500
if we were if we were to remove the

4911
03:42:10,500 --> 03:42:11,460
um

4912
03:42:11,460 --> 03:42:14,960
the the explicit language prohibiting

4913
03:42:14,960 --> 03:42:18,120
Anonymous donations

4914
03:42:18,120 --> 03:42:20,760
of any kind

4915
03:42:20,760 --> 03:42:21,720
um

4916
03:42:21,720 --> 03:42:23,939
would that mean that someone who wanted

4917
03:42:23,939 --> 03:42:27,720
to get around the 500 contribution limit

4918
03:42:27,720 --> 03:42:30,600
and give me more than that as if I was a

4919
03:42:30,600 --> 03:42:31,920
candidate

4920
03:42:31,920 --> 03:42:36,420
um that they could simply send me

4921
03:42:36,420 --> 03:42:39,479
10 99 Anonymous donations

4922
03:42:39,479 --> 03:42:41,819
separately

4923
03:42:41,819 --> 03:42:44,399
um yeah council member Hamilton I think

4924
03:42:44,399 --> 03:42:46,140
you're right I mean the intention of

4925
03:42:46,140 --> 03:42:48,540
adding the prohibit prohibition against

4926
03:42:48,540 --> 03:42:51,540
Anonymous donations was to

4927
03:42:51,540 --> 03:42:55,080
one make it clear that probably if you

4928
03:42:55,080 --> 03:42:57,779
ever get any Anonymous donations that

4929
03:42:57,779 --> 03:43:00,660
total one hundred dollars you need to

4930
03:43:00,660 --> 03:43:01,979
track who they're from to make sure

4931
03:43:01,979 --> 03:43:05,100
they're not from the same person

4932
03:43:05,100 --> 03:43:06,200
um

4933
03:43:06,200 --> 03:43:10,739
I don't know what's wrong right and two

4934
03:43:10,739 --> 03:43:13,680
to try to to the extent that you wanted

4935
03:43:13,680 --> 03:43:17,700
to limit contributions to five hundred

4936
03:43:17,700 --> 03:43:20,640
dollars to provide to include a

4937
03:43:20,640 --> 03:43:23,399
provision that closes a pretty

4938
03:43:23,399 --> 03:43:26,340
significant loophole

4939
03:43:26,340 --> 03:43:28,439
right

4940
03:43:28,439 --> 03:43:30,779
and this provision closes the loophole

4941
03:43:30,779 --> 03:43:32,640
in your opinion

4942
03:43:32,640 --> 03:43:35,690
correct

4943
03:43:35,700 --> 03:43:37,439
thank you that's that's why I'm in favor

4944
03:43:37,439 --> 03:43:38,819
of leaving it

4945
03:43:38,819 --> 03:43:41,520
Mr Salazar councilman Salazar I would

4946
03:43:41,520 --> 03:43:43,760
say that because the state already

4947
03:43:43,760 --> 03:43:47,220
requires us to report contributions in

4948
03:43:47,220 --> 03:43:49,560
aggregate that exceed a hundred it's not

4949
03:43:49,560 --> 03:43:53,870
a loophole it's not a loophole at all

4950
03:43:53,880 --> 03:43:55,160
um so

4951
03:43:55,160 --> 03:43:59,100
what if I were on my on my I'm sorry I'm

4952
03:43:59,100 --> 03:44:00,359
sorry I just want to make sure because

4953
03:44:00,359 --> 03:44:01,620
this light is still on so I want to make

4954
03:44:01,620 --> 03:44:04,620
sure he's concluded oh he'll defer uh

4955
03:44:04,620 --> 03:44:06,500
vice mayor

4956
03:44:06,500 --> 03:44:10,080
so what would prevent a candidate from

4957
03:44:10,080 --> 03:44:11,939
listing

4958
03:44:11,939 --> 03:44:14,700
like in the example that I gave 10 99

4959
03:44:14,700 --> 03:44:18,710
Anonymous donations

4960
03:44:18,720 --> 03:44:20,819
Mr Salazar

4961
03:44:20,819 --> 03:44:23,460
the same restrictions from the state

4962
03:44:23,460 --> 03:44:25,500
from the fppc that currently prevent

4963
03:44:25,500 --> 03:44:27,239
them from doing it it's it's it's

4964
03:44:27,239 --> 03:44:30,120
already state law

4965
03:44:30,120 --> 03:44:32,220
is the so I guess that's the question

4966
03:44:32,220 --> 03:44:33,920
for the City attorney is the state law

4967
03:44:33,920 --> 03:44:38,040
you can't receive a single donation of a

4968
03:44:38,040 --> 03:44:39,540
hundred dollars a single Anonymous

4969
03:44:39,540 --> 03:44:42,359
donation of honor others or more or they

4970
03:44:42,359 --> 03:44:44,399
address aggregate donations from the

4971
03:44:44,399 --> 03:44:45,840
same doors or if it's aggregate I'm

4972
03:44:45,840 --> 03:44:50,830
asking the City attorney

4973
03:44:50,840 --> 03:44:53,420
mayor Medina and council member Hamilton

4974
03:44:53,420 --> 03:44:56,700
the state law prohibits aggregate

4975
03:44:56,700 --> 03:44:59,700
donations from a single Source uh in

4976
03:44:59,700 --> 03:45:03,060
excess 100 or more and so that's

4977
03:45:03,060 --> 03:45:06,600
you know that and and the

4978
03:45:06,600 --> 03:45:09,540
state law prohibits Anonymous donations

4979
03:45:09,540 --> 03:45:14,840
of a hundred dollars or more uh so

4980
03:45:14,840 --> 03:45:18,960
impliedly there is a requirement to make

4981
03:45:18,960 --> 03:45:22,260
sure your traffic must happen

4982
03:45:22,260 --> 03:45:26,580
right and that that I I see no harm in

4983
03:45:26,580 --> 03:45:29,279
making that clear because that's

4984
03:45:29,279 --> 03:45:30,899
certainly not

4985
03:45:30,899 --> 03:45:33,479
crystal clear in the way that it's it is

4986
03:45:33,479 --> 03:45:35,340
through the state I see no harm in

4987
03:45:35,340 --> 03:45:37,080
making it clear we don't want if we

4988
03:45:37,080 --> 03:45:38,399
don't want

4989
03:45:38,399 --> 03:45:40,500
Anonymous donations

4990
03:45:40,500 --> 03:45:42,239
then we shouldn't want Anonymous

4991
03:45:42,239 --> 03:45:45,060
donations let's just say so

4992
03:45:45,060 --> 03:45:46,979
now I'm just thinking that I mean if

4993
03:45:46,979 --> 03:45:49,680
somebody gave you a 50 check

4994
03:45:49,680 --> 03:45:51,720
you have a categorization and form four

4995
03:45:51,720 --> 03:45:53,220
six that you have to report it you don't

4996
03:45:53,220 --> 03:45:54,720
have to use the name once you get to the

4997
03:45:54,720 --> 03:45:56,700
100 of course they have need to know

4998
03:45:56,700 --> 03:45:58,140
your name your occupation whether you're

4999
03:45:58,140 --> 03:45:59,939
retired whether you're not that's the

5000
03:45:59,939 --> 03:46:02,580
way the law is

5001
03:46:02,580 --> 03:46:04,560
um so when we keep saying Anonymous so

5002
03:46:04,560 --> 03:46:07,319
somebody gives a a young person

5003
03:46:07,319 --> 03:46:09,720
at school elementary school gives you a

5004
03:46:09,720 --> 03:46:11,160
dollar

5005
03:46:11,160 --> 03:46:13,920
now you need to get all the data

5006
03:46:13,920 --> 03:46:16,859
just as an example and a young person a

5007
03:46:16,859 --> 03:46:18,300
minor could do that

5008
03:46:18,300 --> 03:46:20,640
so that's where I'm I'm going with the

5009
03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:22,260
we have a state law that already

5010
03:46:22,260 --> 03:46:25,380
mandates in the aggregate so uh Mr uh

5011
03:46:25,380 --> 03:46:26,939
councilmember Medina I'm sorry you

5012
03:46:26,939 --> 03:46:28,739
didn't have the button on yeah

5013
03:46:28,739 --> 03:46:32,819
I'll go in and push the button

5014
03:46:32,819 --> 03:46:33,420
um

5015
03:46:33,420 --> 03:46:35,880
so we're kind of getting in the weeds a

5016
03:46:35,880 --> 03:46:38,160
little bit I could go either way just so

5017
03:46:38,160 --> 03:46:40,380
that we passed this tonight

5018
03:46:40,380 --> 03:46:41,819
um if you did get the one dollar

5019
03:46:41,819 --> 03:46:43,920
contribution you don't have to report it

5020
03:46:43,920 --> 03:46:45,779
and give the kid's name but you have to

5021
03:46:45,779 --> 03:46:49,200
keep that in mind if it did get up to

5022
03:46:49,200 --> 03:46:51,600
over a hundred so

5023
03:46:51,600 --> 03:46:54,120
to make it absolutely clear intent to

5024
03:46:54,120 --> 03:46:57,960
make the main part is the 500 limit but

5025
03:46:57,960 --> 03:47:00,060
I do think that we need we do need to

5026
03:47:00,060 --> 03:47:03,359
have consequences which is why

5027
03:47:03,359 --> 03:47:05,880
um there has to be some penalty in there

5028
03:47:05,880 --> 03:47:08,160
otherwise somebody could go ahead and

5029
03:47:08,160 --> 03:47:09,720
exceed it and then there's no penalty

5030
03:47:09,720 --> 03:47:12,420
why even half the ordinance and Mr

5031
03:47:12,420 --> 03:47:14,760
Salazar thank you and I agree with uh

5032
03:47:14,760 --> 03:47:17,040
council member Medina and that it can't

5033
03:47:17,040 --> 03:47:18,779
be comprised of the infraction that

5034
03:47:18,779 --> 03:47:20,880
there would be a corresponding fine and

5035
03:47:20,880 --> 03:47:22,439
it appears to me that we are going

5036
03:47:22,439 --> 03:47:27,960
beyond that and saying that now it's event I I really understood this

5037
03:47:27,960 --> 03:47:31,920
whole attempt to be a way to level the

5038
03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:34,140
playing field for new candidates and I

5039
03:47:34,140 --> 03:47:36,960
believe that if we're making this more

5040
03:47:36,960 --> 03:47:39,840
and you know we also just since I have

5041
03:47:39,840 --> 03:47:41,520
the mic since I have the floor you know

5042
03:47:41,520 --> 03:47:44,100
we we say in this that um you know it's

5043
03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:46,800
people into the shadows and and I I

5044
03:47:46,800 --> 03:47:49,500
think of an example that happened uh

5045
03:47:49,500 --> 03:47:52,560
recently where there was a candidate for

5046
03:47:52,560 --> 03:47:55,020
a state office tribute that not pack was

5047
03:47:55,020 --> 03:47:58,140
solely dedicated to uh promoting their

5048
03:47:58,140 --> 03:47:59,160
campaign

5049
03:47:59,160 --> 03:48:02,100
and that it didn't have limits

5050
03:48:02,100 --> 03:48:05,880
and so if we you know if if this is

5051
03:48:05,880 --> 03:48:07,560
really intended to level the playing

5052
03:48:07,560 --> 03:48:10,560
field we could potentially be uh

5053
03:48:10,560 --> 03:48:13,620
allowing people with connections to

5054
03:48:13,620 --> 03:48:15,359
powerful packs

5055
03:48:15,359 --> 03:48:17,640
to actually have a leg up over anybody

5056
03:48:17,640 --> 03:48:21,779
because now uh our friends and neighbors

5057
03:48:21,779 --> 03:48:24,060
are limited at 500

5058
03:48:24,060 --> 03:48:26,880
people who are contributing to a pack

5059
03:48:26,880 --> 03:48:29,880
they can do one one-time contributions

5060
03:48:29,880 --> 03:48:32,100
that are at the state limit and that's a

5061
03:48:32,100 --> 03:48:33,720
lot higher than anything we're allowing

5062
03:48:33,720 --> 03:48:36,420
in fact it's interesting to see that the

5063
03:48:36,420 --> 03:48:39,060
increase from last year to this year is

5064
03:48:39,060 --> 03:48:41,460
more than our overall limit for a single

5065
03:48:41,460 --> 03:48:43,140
contribution so

5066
03:48:43,140 --> 03:48:46,020
um and we're also saying our ours won't

5067
03:48:46,020 --> 03:48:47,640
automatically increase like the states

5068
03:48:47,640 --> 03:48:49,920
does so we're going to if you have a

5069
03:48:49,920 --> 03:48:52,620
concern that incumbents have a mechanism

5070
03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:56,279
for keeping new uh candidates out all

5071
03:48:56,279 --> 03:48:57,960
they have to do is freeze those dollars

5072
03:48:57,960 --> 03:48:59,819
they're already sitting in the seat so

5073
03:48:59,819 --> 03:49:01,500
they got it easy and now you're limiting

5074
03:49:01,500 --> 03:49:04,080
their ability to raise money so these

5075
03:49:04,080 --> 03:49:06,239
are unintended consequences I believe

5076
03:49:06,239 --> 03:49:09,720
I'm not I'm not opposed to the Limit

5077
03:49:09,720 --> 03:49:10,319
um

5078
03:49:10,319 --> 03:49:12,479
it it's certainly you know in my

5079
03:49:12,479 --> 03:49:14,279
experience and everyone posted that poor

5080
03:49:14,279 --> 03:49:16,439
portion of it but it does seem that we

5081
03:49:16,439 --> 03:49:18,540
are we're creating

5082
03:49:18,540 --> 03:49:21,359
some other issues that were not intended

5083
03:49:21,359 --> 03:49:24,300
and in some cases may run contrary to

5084
03:49:24,300 --> 03:49:26,840
the spirit of what we had hoped to do by

5085
03:49:26,840 --> 03:49:30,540
modernizing our Our Kind our campaign uh

5086
03:49:30,540 --> 03:49:33,060
limits

5087
03:49:33,060 --> 03:49:34,920
and I'll just say is there any members

5088
03:49:34,920 --> 03:49:38,460
of the public that wish to speak on this

5089
03:49:38,460 --> 03:49:40,739
I do not have any speaker cards and no

5090
03:49:40,739 --> 03:49:42,779
remote hands are raised thank you very

5091
03:49:42,779 --> 03:49:44,340
much so we'll bring it back to council

5092
03:49:44,340 --> 03:49:48,120
uh for any action or does it need to go

5093
03:49:48,120 --> 03:49:50,100
back or there were two options that were

5094
03:49:50,100 --> 03:49:52,560
placed uh I don't know if it's

5095
03:49:52,560 --> 03:49:54,779
I think we've got it unless it needs to

5096
03:49:54,779 --> 03:49:56,399
because of the hour place back on the

5097
03:49:56,399 --> 03:49:58,439
board but is there any direction or act

5098
03:49:58,439 --> 03:50:00,479
I guess action by Council does it mean

5099
03:50:00,479 --> 03:50:02,160
or Direction

5100
03:50:02,160 --> 03:50:04,859
you're the mayor uh yes vice mayor thank

5101
03:50:04,859 --> 03:50:05,580
you

5102
03:50:05,580 --> 03:50:08,520
I would like to make a motion to

5103
03:50:08,520 --> 03:50:11,880
um uh introduce the ordinance as read by

5104
03:50:11,880 --> 03:50:13,260
the clerk

5105
03:50:13,260 --> 03:50:15,899
I I didn't I didn't the last part I

5106
03:50:15,899 --> 03:50:18,420
didn't quite hear I'm sorry I'm sorry I

5107
03:50:18,420 --> 03:50:20,040
would like to make it I would like I'm

5108
03:50:20,040 --> 03:50:22,140
basically following what's what's listed

5109
03:50:22,140 --> 03:50:23,580
in the uh in the packet under the

5110
03:50:23,580 --> 03:50:25,319
recommendation

5111
03:50:25,319 --> 03:50:27,300
um introduce the ordinance as read by

5112
03:50:27,300 --> 03:50:31,190
the clerk

5113
03:50:31,200 --> 03:50:33,180
I can read the whole thing if you want

5114
03:50:33,180 --> 03:50:34,800
no we don't need to read I just want to

5115
03:50:34,800 --> 03:50:36,239
clarify for the colleagues because I

5116
03:50:36,239 --> 03:50:37,319
think just so we're on the same page

5117
03:50:37,319 --> 03:50:39,300
that's with everything right yes

5118
03:50:39,300 --> 03:50:41,819
everything that's been discussed whether

5119
03:50:41,819 --> 03:50:44,580
you have one side or the other is how it

5120
03:50:44,580 --> 03:50:47,340
is um I've addressed my concerns

5121
03:50:47,340 --> 03:50:48,960
um and I think everybody understands so

5122
03:50:48,960 --> 03:50:51,120
uh with that it is a roll call so roll

5123
03:50:51,120 --> 03:50:54,490
call please

5124
03:50:54,500 --> 03:50:56,420
thank you very much

5125
03:50:56,420 --> 03:50:58,920
I apologize

5126
03:50:58,920 --> 03:51:00,899
um is there a second on the motion is

5127
03:51:00,899 --> 03:51:03,300
there a second on the motion

5128
03:51:03,300 --> 03:51:06,479
I've heard none hence it has died due to

5129
03:51:06,479 --> 03:51:07,380
counsel

5130
03:51:07,380 --> 03:51:11,460
councilmember Salazar who's the chair I know that staff has already spent a

5131
03:51:11,460 --> 03:51:13,560
lot of time on this and I I do believe

5132
03:51:13,560 --> 03:51:18,239
it would be uh approproving it and to we

5133
03:51:18,239 --> 03:51:20,880
want to say anything I don't

5134
03:51:20,880 --> 03:51:22,560
um for it to keep on going up with

5135
03:51:22,560 --> 03:51:25,979
inflation so pumper must do address

5136
03:51:25,979 --> 03:51:28,620
um councilman salazarus can what would

5137
03:51:28,620 --> 03:51:32,100
be acceptable for you um for us to

5138
03:51:32,100 --> 03:51:34,080
structure this where there are no

5139
03:51:34,080 --> 03:51:36,120
additional paint

5140
03:51:36,120 --> 03:51:38,040
um and and if we can do that without

5141
03:51:38,040 --> 03:51:40,739
imposing additional penalties scare a

5142
03:51:40,739 --> 03:51:42,859
lot of people and having

5143
03:51:42,859 --> 03:51:45,840
individuals have that ability to sue you

5144
03:51:45,840 --> 03:51:46,979
know who's who's going to come after

5145
03:51:46,979 --> 03:51:50,040
them so

5146
03:51:50,040 --> 03:51:51,420
um

5147
03:51:51,420 --> 03:51:54,000
yeah I mean we still have to rely a

5148
03:51:54,000 --> 03:51:57,180
little bit on on people's honor why

5149
03:51:57,180 --> 03:51:58,560
don't we

5150
03:51:58,560 --> 03:52:02,760
as this is can you formulate an emotion

5151
03:52:02,760 --> 03:52:04,260
unless because I think you've placed

5152
03:52:04,260 --> 03:52:05,939
what what it is and I think that's what

5153
03:52:05,939 --> 03:52:07,200
councilmember Medina was saying okay

5154
03:52:07,200 --> 03:52:09,060
what will it take oh I'm sorry yes

5155
03:52:09,060 --> 03:52:11,340
City's Journey so mayor Medina just to

5156
03:52:11,340 --> 03:52:15,540
help move this along if if the issue is

5157
03:52:15,540 --> 03:52:18,600
this litigation component or

5158
03:52:18,600 --> 03:52:22,439
um administrative fine then it would we

5159
03:52:22,439 --> 03:52:24,779
could uh you could make a motion to

5160
03:52:24,779 --> 03:52:27,060
approve the ordinance

5161
03:52:27,060 --> 03:52:30,739
um with Section uh

5162
03:52:30,739 --> 03:52:34,200
2.33.100 deleted which is the the

5163
03:52:34,200 --> 03:52:37,439
section which provides for injunction

5164
03:52:37,439 --> 03:52:43,550
and other court actions

5165
03:52:43,560 --> 03:52:46,260
or through the mayor I just was quickly

5166
03:52:46,260 --> 03:52:47,939
going back and reading through that I

5167
03:52:47,939 --> 03:52:50,700
would be supportive of that

5168
03:52:50,700 --> 03:52:52,200
thank you in order to get to a

5169
03:52:52,200 --> 03:52:53,340
compromise

5170
03:52:53,340 --> 03:52:55,080
um thank you um and then there was

5171
03:52:55,080 --> 03:52:58,200
another item uh the uh customer sales to

5172
03:52:58,200 --> 03:53:00,420
strike the um the tracking

5173
03:53:00,420 --> 03:53:04,309
sentence

5174
03:53:04,319 --> 03:53:05,760
go ahead I'm sorry I'm okay with leaving

5175
03:53:05,760 --> 03:53:09,170
that in so um

5176
03:53:09,180 --> 03:53:14,100
yeah if if we can agree to drop the the

5177
03:53:14,100 --> 03:53:15,899
section that the City attorney just

5178
03:53:15,899 --> 03:53:17,100
referred to

5179
03:53:17,100 --> 03:53:18,479
um

5180
03:53:18,479 --> 03:53:22,849
I guess I would be supportive of of that

5181
03:53:22,859 --> 03:53:24,779
um that that to me was probably the

5182
03:53:24,779 --> 03:53:26,819
biggest concern do you want the

5183
03:53:26,819 --> 03:53:30,060
inflation 500 limit to go up

5184
03:53:30,060 --> 03:53:32,279
as with the with inflation so we don't

5185
03:53:32,279 --> 03:53:36,229
have to worry about it 20 years from now

5186
03:53:36,239 --> 03:53:37,620
okay

5187
03:53:37,620 --> 03:53:40,260
uh and so back to staff how difficult

5188
03:53:40,260 --> 03:53:43,439
would it be to Peg that to some index

5189
03:53:43,439 --> 03:53:47,929
that would make sense

5190
03:53:47,939 --> 03:53:49,439
wouldn't be difficult at all we have

5191
03:53:49,439 --> 03:53:51,840
fees annually that increase by inflation

5192
03:53:51,840 --> 03:53:55,439
and we would simply do that annually or

5193
03:53:55,439 --> 03:53:57,180
in in this case

5194
03:53:57,180 --> 03:53:59,760
um uh biannually when there's an

5195
03:53:59,760 --> 03:54:01,680
election and so I think the intent

5196
03:54:01,680 --> 03:54:03,540
increases

5197
03:54:03,540 --> 03:54:09,170
before the next election

5198
03:54:09,180 --> 03:54:12,479
okay well then I I will make a revised

5199
03:54:12,479 --> 03:54:14,460
motion then to uh

5200
03:54:14,460 --> 03:54:17,580
approve uh what's in front of us uh with

5201
03:54:17,580 --> 03:54:20,939
the exception of the section that the

5202
03:54:20,939 --> 03:54:23,160
City attorney referred to which would

5203
03:54:23,160 --> 03:54:25,920
impose those uh which would allow for

5204
03:54:25,920 --> 03:54:28,500
additional uh litigation against

5205
03:54:28,500 --> 03:54:31,260
candidates and also with the revision

5206
03:54:31,260 --> 03:54:34,140
that there would be a uh adjustment an

5207
03:54:34,140 --> 03:54:39,410
annual adjustment to the to the Limit

5208
03:54:39,420 --> 03:54:41,699
and one and and I know we'll let's see

5209
03:54:41,699 --> 03:54:43,199
if there's a second first I'll second

5210
03:54:43,199 --> 03:54:44,880
that and with that let's go to the City

5211
03:54:44,880 --> 03:54:46,800
attorney for clarification and make sure

5212
03:54:46,800 --> 03:54:48,120
we're on the same page yeah mayor Medina

5213
03:54:48,120 --> 03:54:50,699
I guess um when we get into a little

5214
03:54:50,699 --> 03:54:53,640
more Drafting and the CPI and things

5215
03:54:53,640 --> 03:54:55,020
like that

5216
03:54:55,020 --> 03:54:56,880
um perhaps it would be better to come

5217
03:54:56,880 --> 03:54:59,939
back with a new ordinance rather than

5218
03:54:59,939 --> 03:55:03,120
trying to do this drafting on the spot I

5219
03:55:03,120 --> 03:55:04,620
should have had you about 20 minutes ago

5220
03:55:04,620 --> 03:55:07,140
because what I'm also feeling and I've

5221
03:55:07,140 --> 03:55:09,300
learned long lessons is when you get to

5222
03:55:09,300 --> 03:55:11,580
the 11 o'clock hour and you have elected

5223
03:55:11,580 --> 03:55:13,979
bodies making decisions sometimes that

5224
03:55:13,979 --> 03:55:15,779
may not be the best time so to have

5225
03:55:15,779 --> 03:55:18,779
fresh eyes uh I I'm going to suggest and

5226
03:55:18,779 --> 03:55:21,060
recommend to colleagues that we do with

5227
03:55:21,060 --> 03:55:23,100
the city attorney recommended is that

5228
03:55:23,100 --> 03:55:25,560
all right yeah we have a first on the

5229
03:55:25,560 --> 03:55:26,880
second on the floor so we'd have to

5230
03:55:26,880 --> 03:55:30,290
rescind that

5231
03:55:30,300 --> 03:55:33,779
uh so and I'm willing to

5232
03:55:33,779 --> 03:55:34,979
I just want to make sure we're following

5233
03:55:34,979 --> 03:55:37,560
the rules right so uh City attorney is

5234
03:55:37,560 --> 03:55:40,680
that okay if they uh pull back and

5235
03:55:40,680 --> 03:55:42,660
withdraw the motion in the second and

5236
03:55:42,660 --> 03:55:44,220
then give you direction if there's

5237
03:55:44,220 --> 03:55:46,260
concurrence

5238
03:55:46,260 --> 03:55:48,720
absolutely fine city manager I just want

5239
03:55:48,720 --> 03:55:52,380
to clarify that direction so in the

5240
03:55:52,380 --> 03:55:55,990
section

5241
03:55:56,000 --> 03:55:59,520
2.33.030 that includes an Express

5242
03:55:59,520 --> 03:56:02,399
requirement to track Contra injunct

5243
03:56:02,399 --> 03:56:06,380
injunction and Court action section

5244
03:56:06,380 --> 03:56:08,399
2.33 point

5245
03:56:08,399 --> 03:56:10,920
and staff will come back at a subsequent

5246
03:56:10,920 --> 03:56:13,020
meeting that is that's how I understand

5247
03:56:13,020 --> 03:56:15,479
perfect thank you and is uh if there's

5248
03:56:15,479 --> 03:56:18,080
concurrence by council is that suffice

5249
03:56:18,080 --> 03:56:20,880
Alvarez I think at this hour that is

5250
03:56:20,880 --> 03:56:22,319
always safe

5251
03:56:22,319 --> 03:56:25,920
um we have passed 11. so with that

5252
03:56:25,920 --> 03:56:27,720
um we have still one item of conduct and

5253
03:56:27,720 --> 03:56:29,880
we have Council comments so action to

5254
03:56:29,880 --> 03:56:31,439
continue now since we've hit the 11

5255
03:56:31,439 --> 03:56:33,420
o'clock hour Mr Salazar through the

5256
03:56:33,420 --> 03:56:34,680
chair I will make a motion that we

5257
03:56:34,680 --> 03:56:36,899
extend for another hour

5258
03:56:36,899 --> 03:56:38,880
I was going to say midnight but okay for

5259
03:56:38,880 --> 03:56:40,560
one hour that's the motion is there a

5260
03:56:40,560 --> 03:56:41,600
second

5261
03:56:41,600 --> 03:56:44,399
my second second to

5262
03:56:44,399 --> 03:56:47,220
um extend for one hour roll call please

5263
03:56:47,220 --> 03:56:48,540
Hamilton

5264
03:56:48,540 --> 03:56:51,479
yes mayor Rico Medina yes

5265
03:56:51,479 --> 03:56:54,060
motion passes 5-0 We are continuing all

5266
03:56:54,060 --> 03:56:55,439
right with that let's move on to Item B

5267
03:56:55,439 --> 03:56:57,950
please

5268
03:56:57,960 --> 03:57:01,080
item 9B repo receive report and confirm

5269
03:57:01,080 --> 03:57:02,819
appointment of city council members to

5270
03:57:02,819 --> 03:57:04,859
serve as representatives and alternates

5271
03:57:04,859 --> 03:57:07,439
to San Mateo County agencies and other

5272
03:57:07,439 --> 03:57:09,720
Regional bodies

5273
03:57:09,720 --> 03:57:16,010
I will now share my screen thank you

5274
03:57:16,020 --> 03:57:19,500
and let me know if you can see that okay

5275
03:57:19,500 --> 03:57:21,140
oh

5276
03:57:21,140 --> 03:57:23,899
you're gonna enlarge it at all

5277
03:57:23,899 --> 03:57:26,580
it might I mean I have in front of me

5278
03:57:26,580 --> 03:57:33,650
but am I thinking for others

5279
03:57:33,660 --> 03:57:35,399
all right

5280
03:57:35,399 --> 03:57:48,050
is that okay

5281
03:57:48,060 --> 03:57:52,790
oh so then I need some minutes

5282
03:57:52,800 --> 03:58:01,490
hide it how do I hide

5283
03:58:01,500 --> 03:58:18,540
okay we are ready if you are yes city

5284
03:58:18,540 --> 03:58:20,520
clerk good evening mayor and council

5285
03:58:20,520 --> 03:58:22,439
members in January of every year we

5286
03:58:22,439 --> 03:58:24,239
appoint council members to serve as

5287
03:58:24,239 --> 03:58:26,220
representatives to various San Mateo

5288
03:58:26,220 --> 03:58:28,080
County agencies and other Regional

5289
03:58:28,080 --> 03:58:30,779
bodies The Matrix before you shows all

5290
03:58:30,779 --> 03:58:33,120
of the county and Regional agencies the

5291
03:58:33,120 --> 03:58:34,680
council serves on throughout the year

5292
03:58:34,680 --> 03:58:36,899
with the exception of the San Mateo

5293
03:58:36,899 --> 03:58:39,899
Mosquito Abatement District Robert Regal

5294
03:58:39,899 --> 03:58:41,819
was appointed by the city council to

5295
03:58:41,819 --> 03:58:43,500
serve on the San Mateo Mosquito

5296
03:58:43,500 --> 03:58:46,140
Abatement district and his term expires

5297
03:58:46,140 --> 03:58:48,840
in December of 2024.

5298
03:58:48,840 --> 03:58:52,560
in 2022 city manager Javon Grogan served

5299
03:58:52,560 --> 03:58:54,420
as representative on the coma Creek

5300
03:58:54,420 --> 03:58:56,880
flood control district

5301
03:58:56,880 --> 03:58:59,580
I'd like to point out that although some

5302
03:58:59,580 --> 03:59:02,340
of the bodies do not require alternates

5303
03:59:02,340 --> 03:59:04,080
we believe it would be potentially

5304
03:59:04,080 --> 03:59:06,239
beneficial to just go ahead and appoint

5305
03:59:06,239 --> 03:59:08,520
one to each body

5306
03:59:08,520 --> 03:59:10,620
and our recommendation here today is

5307
03:59:10,620 --> 03:59:12,300
that Council filled the open vacant

5308
03:59:12,300 --> 03:59:14,279
seats and confirm appointment of the

5309
03:59:14,279 --> 03:59:16,020
city council members to serve as

5310
03:59:16,020 --> 03:59:18,359
representatives and alternates to the

5311
03:59:18,359 --> 03:59:20,939
cemetery San Mateo County agencies and

5312
03:59:20,939 --> 03:59:23,340
other Regional bodies

5313
03:59:23,340 --> 03:59:25,859
okay with that um you see it on the

5314
03:59:25,859 --> 03:59:27,479
screen and I know with the lateness of

5315
03:59:27,479 --> 03:59:28,439
the hour

5316
03:59:28,439 --> 03:59:30,420
um so

5317
03:59:30,420 --> 03:59:31,140
um

5318
03:59:31,140 --> 03:59:32,939
I'm gonna maybe start it off then I'll

5319
03:59:32,939 --> 03:59:34,319
try to speed it up

5320
03:59:34,319 --> 03:59:36,420
um there are things uh and also by the

5321
03:59:36,420 --> 03:59:39,180
way Boscov for example vice mayor

5322
03:59:39,180 --> 03:59:41,399
Hamilton was already reappointed and

5323
03:59:41,399 --> 03:59:43,260
they do it in a different fashion and I

5324
03:59:43,260 --> 03:59:46,880
believe they do not uh require or allow

5325
03:59:46,880 --> 03:59:50,880
alternates to that case excuse me so

5326
03:59:50,880 --> 03:59:52,859
with that there's the airport Community

5327
03:59:52,859 --> 03:59:54,660
Roundtable

5328
03:59:54,660 --> 03:59:58,199
um uh there is an opening has desired to

5329
03:59:58,199 --> 04:00:01,020
have it asked if another colleague would

5330
04:00:01,020 --> 04:00:04,199
be willing to take that are there any

5331
04:00:04,199 --> 04:00:08,160
um suggestions or volunteers uh council

5332
04:00:08,160 --> 04:00:11,460
member Alvarez through Richard thank you

5333
04:00:11,460 --> 04:00:13,080
um Mr Mayor

5334
04:00:13,080 --> 04:00:16,560
um Airport Community Roundtable is a

5335
04:00:16,560 --> 04:00:18,060
very interesting and I think it will be

5336
04:00:18,060 --> 04:00:21,300
a very challenging committee but I will

5337
04:00:21,300 --> 04:00:24,859
step up and volunteer to be a primary

5338
04:00:24,859 --> 04:00:27,180
this is interesting because when I used

5339
04:00:27,180 --> 04:00:30,960
to work at the building counter we have

5340
04:00:30,960 --> 04:00:33,359
very limited information to give to the

5341
04:00:33,359 --> 04:00:36,180
residents regarding noise mitigation

5342
04:00:36,180 --> 04:00:39,239
with the airport that being said to be

5343
04:00:39,239 --> 04:00:41,699
the primary representative for this

5344
04:00:41,699 --> 04:00:42,680
committee

5345
04:00:42,680 --> 04:00:47,340
it would be a privilege for me to learn

5346
04:00:47,340 --> 04:00:49,800
more and to provide more information to

5347
04:00:49,800 --> 04:00:51,359
the community

5348
04:00:51,359 --> 04:00:54,000
well I appreciate that and I don't know

5349
04:00:54,000 --> 04:00:55,859
if I need to ask council member Medina

5350
04:00:55,859 --> 04:00:57,720
or Hamilton if you would disagree with

5351
04:00:57,720 --> 04:00:59,760
that statement or

5352
04:00:59,760 --> 04:01:02,279
it's a it's a little loud on that Round

5353
04:01:02,279 --> 04:01:03,359
Table

5354
04:01:03,359 --> 04:01:06,000
um it's a little frustrating honestly

5355
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,580
that okay you're good but I'll stop it's

5356
04:01:08,580 --> 04:01:12,779
late so so congratulations

5357
04:01:12,779 --> 04:01:15,359
so uh but you know

5358
04:01:15,359 --> 04:01:16,220
I

5359
04:01:16,220 --> 04:01:18,239
know you're aware you probably have

5360
04:01:18,239 --> 04:01:20,340
heard things about it but for you to

5361
04:01:20,340 --> 04:01:23,279
come forward and I think all of us can

5362
04:01:23,279 --> 04:01:24,840
say thank you

5363
04:01:24,840 --> 04:01:27,540
um you know if maybe I'll just try to

5364
04:01:27,540 --> 04:01:30,000
speed this up so let's go down just to

5365
04:01:30,000 --> 04:01:33,720
the the primary for uh coma Creek the

5366
04:01:33,720 --> 04:01:35,460
reason I had that open is because we've

5367
04:01:35,460 --> 04:01:37,199
had the city manager do it it's four

5368
04:01:37,199 --> 04:01:38,640
times a year

5369
04:01:38,640 --> 04:01:41,460
um it's not it's a quarterly basis

5370
04:01:41,460 --> 04:01:43,260
um it's in South San Francisco we don't

5371
04:01:43,260 --> 04:01:44,520
need to have it now I check they don't

5372
04:01:44,520 --> 04:01:46,080
meet for a little bit we can bring that

5373
04:01:46,080 --> 04:01:48,000
back but that was my intent he's been

5374
04:01:48,000 --> 04:01:49,199
willing to do it because other city

5375
04:01:49,199 --> 04:01:51,420
managers do it but we want to be

5376
04:01:51,420 --> 04:01:54,239
valuable to his time the next one down

5377
04:01:54,239 --> 04:01:56,040
so we can come back the next time is

5378
04:01:56,040 --> 04:01:59,040
home for all what I'd like to ask is for

5379
04:01:59,040 --> 04:02:01,680
the primary to be uh council member

5380
04:02:01,680 --> 04:02:03,899
Alvarez the alternate to be council

5381
04:02:03,899 --> 04:02:05,100
member of Medina

5382
04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:07,439
for the heart I'd like to ask council

5383
04:02:07,439 --> 04:02:09,779
member Medina to be the primary I'd like

5384
04:02:09,779 --> 04:02:12,239
an alternate for um

5385
04:02:12,239 --> 04:02:14,880
council member Alvarez on the league of

5386
04:02:14,880 --> 04:02:17,640
California City's Peninsula division I'd

5387
04:02:17,640 --> 04:02:20,660
like the primary to be

5388
04:02:20,660 --> 04:02:23,580
vice mayor Hamilton there is not a

5389
04:02:23,580 --> 04:02:26,040
requirement to have an alternate though

5390
04:02:26,040 --> 04:02:29,220
others are welcome to attend if people

5391
04:02:29,220 --> 04:02:31,620
were already listed on there because

5392
04:02:31,620 --> 04:02:33,479
some of them serve an executive as an

5393
04:02:33,479 --> 04:02:35,279
example on YouTube councilmember

5394
04:02:35,279 --> 04:02:36,899
Medina's on PC but he's also on the

5395
04:02:36,899 --> 04:02:39,120
board and so I would not want to have I

5396
04:02:39,120 --> 04:02:40,920
think continuity is important and I

5397
04:02:40,920 --> 04:02:42,840
wouldn't want to jeopardize anybody who

5398
04:02:42,840 --> 04:02:45,840
has those those positions going to the

5399
04:02:45,840 --> 04:02:47,939
alternate positions and I do understand

5400
04:02:47,939 --> 04:02:51,540
that there may be desire others want as

5401
04:02:51,540 --> 04:02:53,640
an example in a bag or others we can

5402
04:02:53,640 --> 04:02:54,979
work on that

5403
04:02:54,979 --> 04:02:59,460
on the alternates I think I've expressed

5404
04:02:59,460 --> 04:03:02,340
on pce I'd like to have vice mayor

5405
04:03:02,340 --> 04:03:04,680
Hamilton on that I think I already

5406
04:03:04,680 --> 04:03:05,699
talked about heart and I think I've

5407
04:03:05,699 --> 04:03:08,220
already talked about home for all on the

5408
04:03:08,220 --> 04:03:11,640
other alternates it's not applicable on

5409
04:03:11,640 --> 04:03:14,220
the San Mateo County of cities that is a

5410
04:03:14,220 --> 04:03:17,220
proxy that goes to whoever is available

5411
04:03:17,220 --> 04:03:20,060
the mayor just says at this meeting

5412
04:03:20,060 --> 04:03:22,800
ex-person will go ahead and do it like I

5413
04:03:22,800 --> 04:03:24,180
said we didn't need one for the league

5414
04:03:24,180 --> 04:03:28,080
cities that's an n a and that leaves me

5415
04:03:28,080 --> 04:03:30,239
Creek which we'll come back to and then

5416
04:03:30,239 --> 04:03:32,640
Bosco which is not to my knowledge last

5417
04:03:32,640 --> 04:03:34,680
I was told was not permitted airport

5418
04:03:34,680 --> 04:03:37,260
Roundtable I think it's amongst us who

5419
04:03:37,260 --> 04:03:39,779
would want to be the alternate they meet

5420
04:03:39,779 --> 04:03:42,560
six times a year the

5421
04:03:42,560 --> 04:03:46,380
jpals which is the ambulance one that

5422
04:03:46,380 --> 04:03:48,479
meets quarterly

5423
04:03:48,479 --> 04:03:51,479
um and then the bay uh a bag those are

5424
04:03:51,479 --> 04:03:54,479
the ones that um I think that if there's

5425
04:03:54,479 --> 04:03:56,520
any volunteers we deal with tonight if

5426
04:03:56,520 --> 04:03:58,439
not they can be held because of the late

5427
04:03:58,439 --> 04:04:01,439
hour I just rambled a lot so I'll leave

5428
04:04:01,439 --> 04:04:03,300
it to anybody who wants to say something

5429
04:04:03,300 --> 04:04:04,819
or we can again

5430
04:04:04,819 --> 04:04:09,140
speak to next time

5431
04:04:09,140 --> 04:04:12,239
I'm sorry vice mayor

5432
04:04:12,239 --> 04:04:13,859
um you can put me down as the alternate

5433
04:04:13,859 --> 04:04:15,180
for the rounded for the airport

5434
04:04:15,180 --> 04:04:18,840
Roundtable happy to I'm happy to be um

5435
04:04:18,840 --> 04:04:20,699
council member Alvarez is back up on

5436
04:04:20,699 --> 04:04:22,260
that one vice mayor

5437
04:04:22,260 --> 04:04:23,520
thank you

5438
04:04:23,520 --> 04:04:25,620
uh councilman Medina

5439
04:04:25,620 --> 04:04:28,020
he's a glutton for punishment yes he is

5440
04:04:28,020 --> 04:04:30,300
uh it's just it's the alternate

5441
04:04:30,300 --> 04:04:31,739
that's right

5442
04:04:31,739 --> 04:04:33,239
um Mr Mayor if

5443
04:04:33,239 --> 04:04:34,500
um if

5444
04:04:34,500 --> 04:04:36,720
our city manager doesn't mind me taking

5445
04:04:36,720 --> 04:04:41,279
Colma Creek I'll I'll do that

5446
04:04:41,279 --> 04:04:43,800
okay thank you

5447
04:04:43,800 --> 04:04:46,800
I think it'd be interesting honestly

5448
04:04:46,800 --> 04:04:48,779
um yeah I was actually thinking about it

5449
04:04:48,779 --> 04:04:51,660
as well I can be I can be a council

5450
04:04:51,660 --> 04:04:53,279
members alternate on that one as well

5451
04:04:53,279 --> 04:04:57,769
thank you

5452
04:04:57,779 --> 04:05:01,729
um

5453
04:05:01,739 --> 04:05:04,560
no that one's oh the that's it for the

5454
04:05:04,560 --> 04:05:06,060
other buddies on a pointed by the city

5455
04:05:06,060 --> 04:05:07,199
and I have to look more into that

5456
04:05:07,199 --> 04:05:08,340
because

5457
04:05:08,340 --> 04:05:10,979
yeah so we're good on that

5458
04:05:10,979 --> 04:05:12,720
um I'm gonna say

5459
04:05:12,720 --> 04:05:14,580
um really the only thing is is for now

5460
04:05:14,580 --> 04:05:16,680
the a bag and the ALS and people can

5461
04:05:16,680 --> 04:05:18,239
just uh get to me

5462
04:05:18,239 --> 04:05:19,439
um unless there's anybody who wants to

5463
04:05:19,439 --> 04:05:22,020
do that now it's not a one only meets a

5464
04:05:22,020 --> 04:05:23,340
couple times another one meets four

5465
04:05:23,340 --> 04:05:25,439
times so I think we're fine

5466
04:05:25,439 --> 04:05:27,359
um but anyway we can always come back

5467
04:05:27,359 --> 04:05:29,580
but it's not required to have alternates

5468
04:05:29,580 --> 04:05:30,720
uh

5469
04:05:30,720 --> 04:05:32,520
yes I'm sorry I can volunteer for

5470
04:05:32,520 --> 04:05:36,199
alternate for the ABAC a bag or ALS o

5471
04:05:36,199 --> 04:05:41,870
make sure okay

5472
04:05:41,880 --> 04:05:44,460
we have a Mr salazaro secondary on ALS

5473
04:05:44,460 --> 04:05:47,760
and uh Alvarez on a bag

5474
04:05:47,760 --> 04:05:49,859
um I think we've just connected that did

5475
04:05:49,859 --> 04:05:52,260
I talk too quick City Clerk or well Mr

5476
04:05:52,260 --> 04:05:56,040
Mayor yeah yes I I wanted to offer um

5477
04:05:56,040 --> 04:05:58,859
council member Alvarez to to be the

5478
04:05:58,859 --> 04:06:00,720
primary if you'd like they don't meet

5479
04:06:00,720 --> 04:06:01,979
very often

5480
04:06:01,979 --> 04:06:03,979
just that um

5481
04:06:03,979 --> 04:06:07,220
I taking on a couple other things

5482
04:06:07,220 --> 04:06:09,359
and I'd be happy to be the alternate

5483
04:06:09,359 --> 04:06:11,520
just to kind of like switch that if I'm

5484
04:06:11,520 --> 04:06:13,680
sorry what committee is just to do the a

5485
04:06:13,680 --> 04:06:17,399
bag oh the a bag okay sure yeah it's a

5486
04:06:17,399 --> 04:06:20,160
good way to meet a lot of people all the

5487
04:06:20,160 --> 04:06:21,899
electives in the uh

5488
04:06:21,899 --> 04:06:24,779
across the counties okay yeah thank you

5489
04:06:24,779 --> 04:06:27,479
I think uh uh I'm sorry city clerk

5490
04:06:27,479 --> 04:06:29,580
because she's previously typing his word

5491
04:06:29,580 --> 04:06:32,460
moving the chat the checkerboard here

5492
04:06:32,460 --> 04:06:35,699
if we could please share the screen so

5493
04:06:35,699 --> 04:06:37,979
that everyone could review and make sure

5494
04:06:37,979 --> 04:06:39,600
that I captured everything correctly

5495
04:06:39,600 --> 04:06:45,170
that would be greatly appreciated

5496
04:06:45,180 --> 04:06:49,080
okay and let me let me know when you'd

5497
04:06:49,080 --> 04:07:02,210
like me to scroll

5498
04:07:02,220 --> 04:07:05,399
I'll scroll down a bit

5499
04:07:05,399 --> 04:07:07,680
does everybody think it it reflects what

5500
04:07:07,680 --> 04:07:10,260
we heard once you get home through the

5501
04:07:10,260 --> 04:07:12,660
mayor I think I I

5502
04:07:12,660 --> 04:07:14,939
um I should be listed on row 15 for

5503
04:07:14,939 --> 04:07:17,239
peninsula clean energy

5504
04:07:17,239 --> 04:07:20,100
yes and I'm the alternate on home for

5505
04:07:20,100 --> 04:07:21,840
all of that right you're correct okay

5506
04:07:21,840 --> 04:07:34,990
let me home for all

5507
04:07:35,000 --> 04:07:37,620
everybody's that look correct with those

5508
04:07:37,620 --> 04:07:39,000
modifications thank you for everybody's

5509
04:07:39,000 --> 04:07:42,060
eyes that are better than mine

5510
04:07:42,060 --> 04:07:46,380
good good okay with that as you now see

5511
04:07:46,380 --> 04:07:51,650
it before you uh is there um

5512
04:07:51,660 --> 04:07:54,530
a motion

5513
04:07:54,540 --> 04:07:57,300
well now with our new rules we need a

5514
04:07:57,300 --> 04:08:00,899
motion we didn't before so moved uh we

5515
04:08:00,899 --> 04:08:03,180
have a motion from uh councilman Medina

5516
04:08:03,180 --> 04:08:04,680
second in from vice mayor Hamilton

5517
04:08:04,680 --> 04:08:08,340
correct and uh

5518
04:08:08,340 --> 04:08:11,160
council member Alvarez yes council

5519
04:08:11,160 --> 04:08:13,560
member Marty Medina yes council member

5520
04:08:13,560 --> 04:08:16,500
Salazar yes vice mayor Hamilton

5521
04:08:16,500 --> 04:08:21,170
yes mayor Rico Medina yes

5522
04:08:21,180 --> 04:08:22,620
um okay okay

5523
04:08:22,620 --> 04:08:24,359
thank you everybody

5524
04:08:24,359 --> 04:08:27,319
and um may I say too if there's any

5525
04:08:27,319 --> 04:08:31,140
calendars from these bodies so let's go

5526
04:08:31,140 --> 04:08:34,020
through this my my understanding too and

5527
04:08:34,020 --> 04:08:35,640
you're right I I didn't ask if is there

5528
04:08:35,640 --> 04:08:37,080
any public comment

5529
04:08:37,080 --> 04:08:38,760
uh on this that's what you get when I

5530
04:08:38,760 --> 04:08:40,680
sit here yeah

5531
04:08:40,680 --> 04:08:43,380
but no hands were raised and there are

5532
04:08:43,380 --> 04:08:46,199
no hands raised now okay thank you

5533
04:08:46,199 --> 04:08:48,960
um but uh let's just to be clear then

5534
04:08:48,960 --> 04:08:50,520
the city clerk's office would go ahead

5535
04:08:50,520 --> 04:08:52,739
and notify the agencies of the

5536
04:08:52,739 --> 04:08:54,300
particular appointments so that they're

5537
04:08:54,300 --> 04:08:56,880
aware I would ask colleagues when you

5538
04:08:56,880 --> 04:08:59,699
get a calendar of dates if if and when

5539
04:08:59,699 --> 04:09:02,100
you do please give that to to the

5540
04:09:02,100 --> 04:09:03,540
clerk's office just so we can update the

5541
04:09:03,540 --> 04:09:05,880
SB calendar and that we all know what

5542
04:09:05,880 --> 04:09:07,500
we're doing and where we're going so

5543
04:09:07,500 --> 04:09:10,260
it's easier for staff to see that our

5544
04:09:10,260 --> 04:09:11,819
availability

5545
04:09:11,819 --> 04:09:14,340
is that okay all right I didn't ask the

5546
04:09:14,340 --> 04:09:15,960
city clerk before I said that

5547
04:09:15,960 --> 04:09:18,060
um okay let's move on to council uh

5548
04:09:18,060 --> 04:09:20,160
comments from comments from council

5549
04:09:20,160 --> 04:09:22,620
members and also there's not a committee

5550
04:09:22,620 --> 04:09:25,560
report uh under right now so if there

5551
04:09:25,560 --> 04:09:27,300
are any I would appreciate if you could

5552
04:09:27,300 --> 04:09:29,040
please put that

5553
04:09:29,040 --> 04:09:30,540
um under your comments when you're

5554
04:09:30,540 --> 04:09:33,479
called and uh that'll be

5555
04:09:33,479 --> 04:09:36,420
um put on the next one so with that we

5556
04:09:36,420 --> 04:09:40,140
will start with item a uh council member

5557
04:09:40,140 --> 04:09:42,540
Sandy Alvarez request to discuss

5558
04:09:42,540 --> 04:09:44,699
re-establishment of beautification task

5559
04:09:44,699 --> 04:09:46,739
force committee

5560
04:09:46,739 --> 04:09:49,080
council member Salazar if you can kindly

5561
04:09:49,080 --> 04:09:52,729
pass that along thank you

5562
04:09:52,739 --> 04:09:54,899
the beautification task force committee

5563
04:09:54,899 --> 04:09:56,939
was originally established by our former

5564
04:09:56,939 --> 04:09:59,640
council member Irene O'Connell it

5565
04:09:59,640 --> 04:10:01,620
supports and Advocates the public Arts

5566
04:10:01,620 --> 04:10:04,800
policy tree ordinances and other Council

5567
04:10:04,800 --> 04:10:06,540
policies that encourage the

5568
04:10:06,540 --> 04:10:09,060
beautification of the city the task

5569
04:10:09,060 --> 04:10:11,460
force also organizes several Citywide

5570
04:10:11,460 --> 04:10:14,160
events including operation Clean Sweep

5571
04:10:14,160 --> 04:10:17,460
held the first Saturday in May each year

5572
04:10:17,460 --> 04:10:20,460
and the beautification awards they also

5573
04:10:20,460 --> 04:10:22,920
serve in an advisory capacity to the

5574
04:10:22,920 --> 04:10:25,739
city council that said my request to

5575
04:10:25,739 --> 04:10:28,020
re-establish The View sorry the

5576
04:10:28,020 --> 04:10:30,779
beautification task force would be a

5577
04:10:30,779 --> 04:10:33,479
continuation of how the committee was

5578
04:10:33,479 --> 04:10:34,920
structured

5579
04:10:34,920 --> 04:10:36,960
the goals of the beautification task

5580
04:10:36,960 --> 04:10:39,899
force are to educate the community about

5581
04:10:39,899 --> 04:10:42,359
enhancing and protecting San Bruno's

5582
04:10:42,359 --> 04:10:44,939
environmental assets to promote the

5583
04:10:44,939 --> 04:10:47,520
quality of life in San Bruno by creating

5584
04:10:47,520 --> 04:10:49,920
supporting and participating in

5585
04:10:49,920 --> 04:10:52,500
activities and programs that improve the

5586
04:10:52,500 --> 04:10:54,420
physical and aesthetic environment of

5587
04:10:54,420 --> 04:10:56,220
our community

5588
04:10:56,220 --> 04:11:01,100
Advocate a high standard of community responsibility cleanliness

5589
04:11:01,100 --> 04:11:04,199
maintenance and attractiveness for our

5590
04:11:04,199 --> 04:11:09,359
developed and natural environment last to Mentor neighborhood

5591
04:11:09,359 --> 04:11:12,060
and city-wide cleanups

5592
04:11:12,060 --> 04:11:15,120
how we can achieve these goals

5593
04:11:15,120 --> 04:11:17,220
promote community activities like

5594
04:11:17,220 --> 04:11:19,819
city-wide cleanups Earth Day activities

5595
04:11:19,819 --> 04:11:22,080
beautification Awards and similar

5596
04:11:22,080 --> 04:11:25,380
programs community outreach to volunteer

5597
04:11:25,380 --> 04:11:28,680
and or participate in local activities

5598
04:11:28,680 --> 04:11:30,779
encourage community members to be

5599
04:11:30,779 --> 04:11:34,020
proactive on monitoring neighborhood

5600
04:11:34,020 --> 04:11:36,359
and last

5601
04:11:36,359 --> 04:11:38,160
thank you for your comments thank you

5602
04:11:38,160 --> 04:11:40,080
for the handout

5603
04:11:40,080 --> 04:11:43,920
and so what it has I'm sorry it was

5604
04:11:43,920 --> 04:11:45,899
asking for

5605
04:11:45,899 --> 04:11:46,920
um

5606
04:11:46,920 --> 04:11:48,899
the discussion for re-establishment of

5607
04:11:48,899 --> 04:11:51,120
the beautification task force committee

5608
04:11:51,120 --> 04:11:53,819
which I know there's a lot of when I say

5609
04:11:53,819 --> 04:11:56,040
a lot that's but it's wrong what I mean

5610
04:11:56,040 --> 04:11:58,739
by that is is it a standing committee is

5611
04:11:58,739 --> 04:12:00,720
it under the brown act those are things

5612
04:12:00,720 --> 04:12:02,399
that would need to be vetted right so

5613
04:12:02,399 --> 04:12:04,199
that we have it structured correctly but

5614
04:12:04,199 --> 04:12:06,420
with that I'll open up to my colleagues

5615
04:12:06,420 --> 04:12:09,300
councilman Medina yes I would be

5616
04:12:09,300 --> 04:12:11,520
appropriate to discuss that so I am in

5617
04:12:11,520 --> 04:12:13,560
support of this and the way it used to

5618
04:12:13,560 --> 04:12:15,120
exist but maybe if we could add some

5619
04:12:15,120 --> 04:12:17,279
additional structure to it uh we could

5620
04:12:17,279 --> 04:12:19,319
definitely fortify there is still one

5621
04:12:19,319 --> 04:12:21,420
reference to it in the municipal code so

5622
04:12:21,420 --> 04:12:23,340
uh it's a good thing we're bringing it

5623
04:12:23,340 --> 04:12:26,760
back so I am in support uh vice mayor

5624
04:12:26,760 --> 04:12:28,739
Hamilton any comment

5625
04:12:28,739 --> 04:12:31,620
I agree with both both comments that so

5626
04:12:31,620 --> 04:12:33,720
far and I'm I don't know if you have an

5627
04:12:33,720 --> 04:12:35,220
extra one or I can use mine I can hand

5628
04:12:35,220 --> 04:12:37,020
it over to staff that's okay so that

5629
04:12:37,020 --> 04:12:38,760
they have the basis in which to or thank

5630
04:12:38,760 --> 04:12:41,279
you councilmember Medina oh he and she

5631
04:12:41,279 --> 04:12:42,420
has an extra

5632
04:12:42,420 --> 04:12:43,979
um if that can be done so that and

5633
04:12:43,979 --> 04:12:46,500
presented and so we are looking for the

5634
04:12:46,500 --> 04:12:48,960
discussion with the handout that has now

5635
04:12:48,960 --> 04:12:52,739
been presented to staff for uh how they

5636
04:12:52,739 --> 04:12:55,500
can uh put that together

5637
04:12:55,500 --> 04:12:58,819
uh to bring it back with that caveat of

5638
04:12:58,819 --> 04:13:02,220
Staff involvement uh Brown act standing

5639
04:13:02,220 --> 04:13:04,319
committee those type of elements is that

5640
04:13:04,319 --> 04:13:06,840
fair city manager absolutely mayor we

5641
04:13:06,840 --> 04:13:08,520
still need to go through the appointment

5642
04:13:08,520 --> 04:13:10,739
of city council members to various

5643
04:13:10,739 --> 04:13:12,779
standing and ad hoc committees and so

5644
04:13:12,779 --> 04:13:15,540
when we discuss that item uh staff will

5645
04:13:15,540 --> 04:13:17,880
bring this item forward and I think uh

5646
04:13:17,880 --> 04:13:20,279
we can give some thoughts on how to more

5647
04:13:20,279 --> 04:13:22,020
formalize it and align it to our

5648
04:13:22,020 --> 04:13:24,720
structure but uh certainly we will do

5649
04:13:24,720 --> 04:13:27,660
that and support that process if so

5650
04:13:27,660 --> 04:13:30,000
directed which I'm assuming because

5651
04:13:30,000 --> 04:13:32,399
everybody there was no roll call one but

5652
04:13:32,399 --> 04:13:34,260
I I thought I heard General concurrence

5653
04:13:34,260 --> 04:13:37,380
to direct staff to bring this back at

5654
04:13:37,380 --> 04:13:40,979
um subsequently and we will aim to do

5655
04:13:40,979 --> 04:13:43,260
that when we appoint council members to

5656
04:13:43,260 --> 04:13:44,819
the various standing and adult

5657
04:13:44,819 --> 04:13:47,340
committees okay thank you

5658
04:13:47,340 --> 04:13:49,199
um with that um the way the new rules

5659
04:13:49,199 --> 04:13:51,180
work I mean even though the mayor just

5660
04:13:51,180 --> 04:13:53,460
real I'm sorry go ahead I'm sorry to

5661
04:13:53,460 --> 04:13:55,739
interrupt uh just if someone can send me

5662
04:13:55,739 --> 04:13:57,060
a copy of the handout that would be

5663
04:13:57,060 --> 04:13:57,720
great

5664
04:13:57,720 --> 04:13:59,880
since I can't grab it

5665
04:13:59,880 --> 04:14:02,340
physically

5666
04:14:02,340 --> 04:14:04,500
oh oh yes okay yes we'll do that it's

5667
04:14:04,500 --> 04:14:07,570
going to be done right now

5668
04:14:07,580 --> 04:14:10,920
vice mayor Hamilton I can email you a

5669
04:14:10,920 --> 04:14:13,199
copy Perfect all right I appreciate that

5670
04:14:13,199 --> 04:14:15,899
thank you thank you uh but I think under

5671
04:14:15,899 --> 04:14:17,880
the new policies and procedures uh

5672
04:14:17,880 --> 04:14:19,380
though you have a total Five-0

5673
04:14:19,380 --> 04:14:20,699
concurrence we have to have a vote an

5674
04:14:20,699 --> 04:14:22,140
emotion

5675
04:14:22,140 --> 04:14:23,640
so

5676
04:14:23,640 --> 04:14:25,500
um so moved

5677
04:14:25,500 --> 04:14:28,380
okay uh motion Medina seconded uh

5678
04:14:28,380 --> 04:14:34,670
Salazar roll call please

5679
04:14:34,680 --> 04:14:37,319
councilmember Alvarez

5680
04:14:37,319 --> 04:14:40,020
councilmember Marty Medina yes council

5681
04:14:40,020 --> 04:14:43,380
member Salazar yes vice mayor Hamilton

5682
04:14:43,380 --> 04:14:46,859
yes mayor Rico Medina yes

5683
04:14:46,859 --> 04:14:48,920
uh passes 5-0 and at this time

5684
04:14:48,920 --> 04:14:50,819
councilmember Alvarez is there anything

5685
04:14:50,819 --> 04:14:52,979
else under comments that you would like

5686
04:14:52,979 --> 04:14:55,020
to offer this evening you don't have to

5687
04:14:55,020 --> 04:14:56,460
but if there is this would be the

5688
04:14:56,460 --> 04:14:59,760
opportunity not at this point Thank you very much thank you for that

5689
04:14:59,760 --> 04:15:02,580
let's move on to Item B uh council

5690
04:15:02,580 --> 04:15:04,380
member Salazar request to discuss

5691
04:15:04,380 --> 04:15:06,180
revisions to existing cannabis

5692
04:15:06,180 --> 04:15:08,760
regulations including zoning number of

5693
04:15:08,760 --> 04:15:11,520
allowed businesses and the process for

5694
04:15:11,520 --> 04:15:13,680
awarding permits council member Salazar

5695
04:15:13,680 --> 04:15:16,140
thank you Mr Mayor I I actually did have

5696
04:15:16,140 --> 04:15:17,640
some things written out but given the

5697
04:15:17,640 --> 04:15:19,439
late hour and being that I don't want to

5698
04:15:19,439 --> 04:15:22,160
use up our hour extension I am going to

5699
04:15:22,160 --> 04:15:26,040
limit this to my request for support

5700
04:15:26,040 --> 04:15:28,859
from the council to ask staff to bring

5701
04:15:28,859 --> 04:15:31,620
back a revised ordinance or ordinances

5702
04:15:31,620 --> 04:15:35,160
if required that would modify our

5703
04:15:35,160 --> 04:15:36,960
current uh

5704
04:15:36,960 --> 04:15:42,120
our current zoning our current uh

5705
04:15:42,120 --> 04:15:45,720
limit on the number of dispensaries in

5706
04:15:45,720 --> 04:15:46,620
the city

5707
04:15:46,620 --> 04:15:51,600
and uh also the process by which permits

5708
04:15:51,600 --> 04:15:54,239
uh or licenses would be

5709
04:15:54,239 --> 04:15:57,650
assigned

5710
04:15:57,660 --> 04:15:59,160
um

5711
04:15:59,160 --> 04:16:02,040
so I I mean I could I could go into some

5712
04:16:02,040 --> 04:16:04,020
other details but as I said given the

5713
04:16:04,020 --> 04:16:06,660
delayed hour I really just want uh an

5714
04:16:06,660 --> 04:16:08,699
opportunity for this to come back

5715
04:16:08,699 --> 04:16:11,939
um my intent is to limit the number of

5716
04:16:11,939 --> 04:16:13,319
uh

5717
04:16:13,319 --> 04:16:15,060
of areas within the city where it's

5718
04:16:15,060 --> 04:16:18,319
permitted and to reduce the number of

5719
04:16:18,319 --> 04:16:25,910
licenses that are issued

5720
04:16:25,920 --> 04:16:26,640
um

5721
04:16:26,640 --> 04:16:30,000
yeah yes is there any questions or uh

5722
04:16:30,000 --> 04:16:32,160
questions from colleagues in regards to

5723
04:16:32,160 --> 04:16:36,370
council member salazarus

5724
04:16:36,380 --> 04:16:38,699
councilman sure

5725
04:16:38,699 --> 04:16:40,500
so

5726
04:16:40,500 --> 04:16:44,040
how does this affect what we're

5727
04:16:44,040 --> 04:16:45,540
it's totally going to revise it so I'm

5728
04:16:45,540 --> 04:16:46,859
looking over at the

5729
04:16:46,859 --> 04:16:48,479
um for our

5730
04:16:48,479 --> 04:16:51,899
staff to kind of chime in on

5731
04:16:51,899 --> 04:16:53,819
this

5732
04:16:53,819 --> 04:16:58,439
city manager sure and thank you

5733
04:16:58,439 --> 04:17:01,380
councilmember Medina and we were just

5734
04:17:01,380 --> 04:17:03,720
having a little side conversation here I

5735
04:17:03,720 --> 04:17:04,800
think we were we would need

5736
04:17:04,800 --> 04:17:07,560
clarification and specifics to bring

5737
04:17:07,560 --> 04:17:10,859
back a revised ordinance uh what I in

5738
04:17:10,859 --> 04:17:12,479
lieu of doing that I think what we can

5739
04:17:12,479 --> 04:17:15,479
do is agenda is a discussion amongst the

5740
04:17:15,479 --> 04:17:18,720
city council if so moved by the majority

5741
04:17:18,720 --> 04:17:20,460
of council here tonight and based on

5742
04:17:20,460 --> 04:17:22,680
that discussion

5743
04:17:22,680 --> 04:17:24,359
um I think Council should provide clear

5744
04:17:24,359 --> 04:17:26,640
Direction on revisions to the ordinance

5745
04:17:26,640 --> 04:17:30,300
and on regulations if uh if so desired

5746
04:17:30,300 --> 04:17:32,760
and then we would then draft those have

5747
04:17:32,760 --> 04:17:35,699
them reviewed of course by staff and our

5748
04:17:35,699 --> 04:17:37,859
City attorney and then schedule it at a

5749
04:17:37,859 --> 04:17:42,239
subsequent council meeting for adoption

5750
04:17:42,239 --> 04:17:45,420
um or first reading right and and given

5751
04:17:45,420 --> 04:17:48,300
that uh there is a process uh that's

5752
04:17:48,300 --> 04:17:50,220
already put in place and that I don't

5753
04:17:50,220 --> 04:17:54,359
want to run afoul of any anything that's happening I did want to expedite

5754
04:17:54,359 --> 04:17:57,120
and so I can provide specifics of what I

5755
04:17:57,120 --> 04:17:58,620
would be requesting if that would

5756
04:17:58,620 --> 04:18:00,960
facilitate bringing back an ordinance

5757
04:18:00,960 --> 04:18:03,120
that could then be discussed modified at

5758
04:18:03,120 --> 04:18:04,920
a meeting rather than having an open

5759
04:18:04,920 --> 04:18:07,500
discussion that would then lead to the

5760
04:18:07,500 --> 04:18:09,000
presentation of an ordinance that would

5761
04:18:09,000 --> 04:18:10,620
then have to come back for two readings

5762
04:18:10,620 --> 04:18:13,080
so very specifically I could tell you

5763
04:18:13,080 --> 04:18:16,439
that my intent is to remove downtown and

5764
04:18:16,439 --> 04:18:22,680
tan Fran from the uh the zoning that's approved currently and it is also

5765
04:18:22,680 --> 04:18:24,779
my intent to reduce the number of

5766
04:18:24,779 --> 04:18:29,340
businesses from the four down to two uh

5767
04:18:29,340 --> 04:18:31,260
where one of them would be required to

5768
04:18:31,260 --> 04:18:34,500
be a delivery service and one could be a

5769
04:18:34,500 --> 04:18:37,340
potential retail or they could both be

5770
04:18:37,340 --> 04:18:40,380
delivery services and

5771
04:18:40,380 --> 04:18:41,160
um

5772
04:18:41,160 --> 04:18:43,800
and I I would like I would I would limit

5773
04:18:43,800 --> 04:18:47,330
it to that

5774
04:18:47,340 --> 04:18:48,540
I see manager is that what you're

5775
04:18:48,540 --> 04:18:53,030
looking for

5776
04:18:53,040 --> 04:18:55,140
I think that if Council support here

5777
04:18:55,140 --> 04:18:57,840
tonight uh to bring that back and we

5778
04:18:57,840 --> 04:18:59,880
would uh look to schedule that

5779
04:18:59,880 --> 04:19:02,340
discussion with that revised ordinance

5780
04:19:02,340 --> 04:19:04,500
that I believe has to occur at a regular

5781
04:19:04,500 --> 04:19:07,800
meeting if there is a direction from the

5782
04:19:07,800 --> 04:19:10,739
city council to do that expeditiously we

5783
04:19:10,739 --> 04:19:14,279
would calendar that for the January 24th

5784
04:19:14,279 --> 04:19:15,840
meeting which is your next regular

5785
04:19:15,840 --> 04:19:18,020
meeting

5786
04:19:18,020 --> 04:19:21,840
and I do think that we would need to do

5787
04:19:21,840 --> 04:19:24,720
um notifications to very I I believe the

5788
04:19:24,720 --> 04:19:26,580
interested parties list

5789
04:19:26,580 --> 04:19:29,000
has an interested party list for our

5790
04:19:29,000 --> 04:19:31,920
cannabis regulations I think um it would

5791
04:19:31,920 --> 04:19:33,960
be an incumbent Upon Us inappropriate to

5792
04:19:33,960 --> 04:19:36,960
send a notification uh to all of those

5793
04:19:36,960 --> 04:19:38,640
individuals on that interested party

5794
04:19:38,640 --> 04:19:43,439
list and anyone that we know has pulled

5795
04:19:43,439 --> 04:19:46,500
an application or asked questions of uh

5796
04:19:46,500 --> 04:19:49,380
staff in in the intention to develop an

5797
04:19:49,380 --> 04:19:51,359
application and so we would provide

5798
04:19:51,359 --> 04:19:54,000
those uh notice notifications that this

5799
04:19:54,000 --> 04:19:55,620
would be discussed at the January does

5800
04:19:55,620 --> 04:19:58,560
and reduce the number of allowable

5801
04:19:58,560 --> 04:20:02,340
permits at the city could Grant to two

5802
04:20:02,340 --> 04:20:05,100
one being delivery and the other being

5803
04:20:05,100 --> 04:20:08,580
either delivery or retail or and or both

5804
04:20:08,580 --> 04:20:14,110
correct correct

5805
04:20:14,120 --> 04:20:16,979
I was just going to clarify that the

5806
04:20:16,979 --> 04:20:19,199
Apple commercial cannabis operator

5807
04:20:19,199 --> 04:20:22,920
permits application deadline has been

5808
04:20:22,920 --> 04:20:25,680
set for next Tuesday

5809
04:20:25,680 --> 04:20:27,540
so we would know by

5810
04:20:27,540 --> 04:20:29,699
before the 24th who had submitted

5811
04:20:29,699 --> 04:20:31,560
applications and we could also obviously

5812
04:20:31,560 --> 04:20:33,960
inform that group anyone who had submit

5813
04:20:33,960 --> 04:20:36,600
uh the permit and the information did

5814
04:20:36,600 --> 04:20:39,180
make it very clear that the city council

5815
04:20:39,180 --> 04:20:43,020
still reserves the right to award up to

5816
04:20:43,020 --> 04:20:45,840
four or less than four and so should you

5817
04:20:45,840 --> 04:20:49,800
make that change uh know that we we've

5818
04:20:49,800 --> 04:20:51,479
talked we believe sufficient notice was

5819
04:20:51,479 --> 04:20:54,540
provided that the city council has

5820
04:20:54,540 --> 04:20:57,180
discretion now on how many permits you

5821
04:20:57,180 --> 04:20:59,689
would issue

5822
04:20:59,699 --> 04:21:02,040
uh councilman Medina

5823
04:21:02,040 --> 04:21:03,779
yeah I'm a little concerned about the

5824
04:21:03,779 --> 04:21:05,399
detail that we're going this is this is

5825
04:21:05,399 --> 04:21:08,220
Council Commons and it should be we're

5826
04:21:08,220 --> 04:21:10,560
getting way too specific that it's not

5827
04:21:10,560 --> 04:21:12,899
agenda so I believe the way it's

5828
04:21:12,899 --> 04:21:16,080
supposed to work is you say that you're

5829
04:21:16,080 --> 04:21:18,300
going to have a discussion of the item

5830
04:21:18,300 --> 04:21:22,020
like councilman councilwoman Alvarez

5831
04:21:22,020 --> 04:21:24,960
just did but I think the specifics of

5832
04:21:24,960 --> 04:21:27,359
what you're trying to do in in a

5833
04:21:27,359 --> 04:21:29,760
non-agend diet the City attorney it's

5834
04:21:29,760 --> 04:21:31,560
this isn't an agendized topic and we're

5835
04:21:31,560 --> 04:21:33,720
getting into the specifics of the

5836
04:21:33,720 --> 04:21:35,160
changes

5837
04:21:35,160 --> 04:21:37,739
and I don't know if that I'm questioning

5838
04:21:37,739 --> 04:21:40,199
if the if that's appropriate so there's

5839
04:21:40,199 --> 04:21:43,199
a question on the process which has been

5840
04:21:43,199 --> 04:21:46,560
established already but uh City attorney

5841
04:21:46,560 --> 04:21:48,420
mayor Medina and council member Medina

5842
04:21:48,420 --> 04:21:49,319
the

5843
04:21:49,319 --> 04:21:50,100
um

5844
04:21:50,100 --> 04:21:51,420
the city council's not actually taking

5845
04:21:51,420 --> 04:21:53,520
action on these items what it's doing is

5846
04:21:53,520 --> 04:21:55,199
giving direction to staff to come back

5847
04:21:55,199 --> 04:21:56,040
with

5848
04:21:56,040 --> 04:21:59,460
an agendized item that you will consider

5849
04:21:59,460 --> 04:22:02,220
these changes to the

5850
04:22:02,220 --> 04:22:04,680
um to the Cannabis ordinance at that

5851
04:22:04,680 --> 04:22:07,020
point you will have the gender will

5852
04:22:07,020 --> 04:22:10,439
provide you're just discussing

5853
04:22:10,439 --> 04:22:11,699
um

5854
04:22:11,699 --> 04:22:14,640
you're discussing revisions and

5855
04:22:14,640 --> 04:22:17,580
directing staff to come back with uh

5856
04:22:17,580 --> 04:22:19,620
with proposed changes that you will

5857
04:22:19,620 --> 04:22:23,220
consider on a properly agendized meeting

5858
04:22:23,220 --> 04:22:25,859
sure but the revisions are pretty

5859
04:22:25,859 --> 04:22:28,969
detailed and

5860
04:22:28,979 --> 04:22:31,080
um I'm not going to support this

5861
04:22:31,080 --> 04:22:33,120
I think I think to have the study

5862
04:22:33,120 --> 04:22:36,779
session to talk about it but to to

5863
04:22:36,779 --> 04:22:38,939
manipulate it so that you can get it

5864
04:22:38,939 --> 04:22:41,880
changed for another meeting I think I

5865
04:22:41,880 --> 04:22:43,500
think that's beyond

5866
04:22:43,500 --> 04:22:46,910
the intent that

5867
04:22:46,920 --> 04:22:49,920
well I would only say that uh

5868
04:22:49,920 --> 04:22:54,000
in in uh in the past Council comments

5869
04:22:54,000 --> 04:22:56,279
were not agendized and we were

5870
04:22:56,279 --> 04:22:58,560
prohibited from having open discussion

5871
04:22:58,560 --> 04:23:00,840
and we would we were limited to

5872
04:23:00,840 --> 04:23:02,819
providing direction to staff to bring

5873
04:23:02,819 --> 04:23:05,220
something back but that changed that

5874
04:23:05,220 --> 04:23:08,580
changed when uh we decided that we would

5875
04:23:08,580 --> 04:23:11,100
agendize and basically spell out the

5876
04:23:11,100 --> 04:23:13,500
action that we intended to take and so

5877
04:23:13,500 --> 04:23:16,199
this this was agendized I think I was

5878
04:23:16,199 --> 04:23:18,840
very clear in uh the topics that I

5879
04:23:18,840 --> 04:23:21,420
intended to discuss and I I don't think

5880
04:23:21,420 --> 04:23:23,460
it's inappropriate but I I am hoping

5881
04:23:23,460 --> 04:23:25,380
that at least two of my colleagues will

5882
04:23:25,380 --> 04:23:30,050
support uh letting this move forward

5883
04:23:30,060 --> 04:23:34,189
city manager

5884
04:23:34,199 --> 04:23:35,899
thank thank you

5885
04:23:35,899 --> 04:23:40,620
mayor Medina just on this topic I do for

5886
04:23:40,620 --> 04:23:42,960
me feel that the threshold line is we

5887
04:23:42,960 --> 04:23:46,080
are not tonight discussing the merits of

5888
04:23:46,080 --> 04:23:49,880
the changes that council member Salazar

5889
04:23:49,880 --> 04:23:52,560
is asking to be discussed at a later

5890
04:23:52,560 --> 04:23:53,699
meeting

5891
04:23:53,699 --> 04:23:57,540
but Council and providing Clarity to

5892
04:23:57,540 --> 04:24:01,380
staff on what his proposal is for that

5893
04:24:01,380 --> 04:24:02,880
meeting to be

5894
04:24:02,880 --> 04:24:06,000
and should there be majority concurrents

5895
04:24:06,000 --> 04:24:08,100
I think staff would take that direction

5896
04:24:08,100 --> 04:24:12,000
and say we have had a council member

5897
04:24:12,000 --> 04:24:15,000
agenda is a topic that they would like

5898
04:24:15,000 --> 04:24:17,279
to have their colleagues discuss they

5899
04:24:17,279 --> 04:24:19,859
have clearly articulated what that topic

5900
04:24:19,859 --> 04:24:21,060
is

5901
04:24:21,060 --> 04:24:23,340
in a majority of council has provided

5902
04:24:23,340 --> 04:24:26,640
direction to staff to agendize that that

5903
04:24:26,640 --> 04:24:29,040
discussion and so we're not discussing

5904
04:24:29,040 --> 04:24:31,080
the merits we're clearly just getting I

5905
04:24:31,080 --> 04:24:34,140
think a clear understanding of what the

5906
04:24:34,140 --> 04:24:38,580
council member would like discussed

5907
04:24:38,580 --> 04:24:40,500
or we're working on now

5908
04:24:40,500 --> 04:24:43,739
whether it's storm related all the other

5909
04:24:43,739 --> 04:24:46,080
stuff that we're dealing with we're

5910
04:24:46,080 --> 04:24:48,660
going to tell staff stop that and do

5911
04:24:48,660 --> 04:24:51,710
this

5912
04:24:51,720 --> 04:24:54,239
no that's okay you can say yes what yeah

5913
04:24:54,239 --> 04:24:55,800
and what else want to make sure I

5914
04:24:55,800 --> 04:24:57,660
understand number of ordinances and the

5915
04:24:57,660 --> 04:24:59,399
resolutions that were put in place I'm

5916
04:24:59,399 --> 04:25:01,080
not asking that everything be redone I'm

5917
04:25:01,080 --> 04:25:02,699
not asking staff to do any additional

5918
04:25:02,699 --> 04:25:04,319
work I'm asking for very specific

5919
04:25:04,319 --> 04:25:07,080
changes to one or more ordinances if it

5920
04:25:07,080 --> 04:25:09,120
crosses over into two ordinances I was

5921
04:25:09,120 --> 04:25:10,739
very specific about what I requested

5922
04:25:10,739 --> 04:25:12,660
this shouldn't take a lot of Staff time

5923
04:25:12,660 --> 04:25:15,660
this is I I was very specific and it's

5924
04:25:15,660 --> 04:25:18,479
very detailed so if if that you if you

5925
04:25:18,479 --> 04:25:20,760
think that's going to derail other

5926
04:25:20,760 --> 04:25:22,859
um or we try to do that we give

5927
04:25:22,859 --> 04:25:24,660
direction from this body if there is a

5928
04:25:24,660 --> 04:25:27,779
majority on what to do which this once

5929
04:25:27,779 --> 04:25:29,340
this policy went into effect this

5930
04:25:29,340 --> 04:25:32,060
Council has done that whether it's

5931
04:25:32,060 --> 04:25:35,279
504132 to say this is now a priority we

5932
04:25:35,279 --> 04:25:37,140
want to bring this forward so but I I

5933
04:25:37,140 --> 04:25:39,540
see the the city manager go ahead

5934
04:25:39,540 --> 04:25:42,920
foreign

5935
04:25:42,930 --> 04:25:49,790
[Music]

5936
04:25:49,800 --> 04:25:52,560
I'm not reading the the language and

5937
04:25:52,560 --> 04:25:55,979
your policies and procedures but we were

5938
04:25:55,979 --> 04:25:57,120
very

5939
04:25:57,120 --> 04:25:57,739
um

5940
04:25:57,739 --> 04:26:01,439
clearing those discussions that if a

5941
04:26:01,439 --> 04:26:06,720
item is requested to be brought back

5942
04:26:06,720 --> 04:26:10,620
urgently immediately uh we staff asked

5943
04:26:10,620 --> 04:26:12,180
that it that the council essentially

5944
04:26:12,180 --> 04:26:14,040
make a determination that this is a very

5945
04:26:14,040 --> 04:26:15,000
important

5946
04:26:15,000 --> 04:26:17,279
item and we would like staff to

5947
04:26:17,279 --> 04:26:20,520
prioritize it respecting that the

5948
04:26:20,520 --> 04:26:22,560
manager or the City attorney has the

5949
04:26:22,560 --> 04:26:24,960
ability to say hey I don't think that we

5950
04:26:24,960 --> 04:26:27,000
can accomplish that or it will be

5951
04:26:27,000 --> 04:26:29,819
council member Salazar articulate

5952
04:26:29,819 --> 04:26:33,840
is because the applications are

5953
04:26:33,840 --> 04:26:34,580
um

5954
04:26:34,580 --> 04:26:38,220
processes open uh he feels that this is

5955
04:26:38,220 --> 04:26:40,859
a urgent thing that he is requesting his

5956
04:26:40,859 --> 04:26:43,140
support from his colleagues to direct

5957
04:26:43,140 --> 04:26:47,159
staff to agenda's soon

5958
04:26:47,159 --> 04:26:48,060
um

5959
04:26:48,060 --> 04:26:51,540
I do believe that because it's it's

5960
04:26:51,540 --> 04:26:53,699
amending ordinances that we've already

5961
04:26:53,699 --> 04:26:56,760
drafted that with clear direction we can

5962
04:26:56,760 --> 04:26:57,720
accomplish

5963
04:26:57,720 --> 04:27:00,239
caveat beam

5964
04:27:00,239 --> 04:27:02,520
if a major storm hits and we divert a

5965
04:27:02,520 --> 04:27:04,800
bunch of attention right I I reserve the

5966
04:27:04,800 --> 04:27:06,420
right to send counsel and email saying

5967
04:27:06,420 --> 04:27:09,239
you know I X Y and Z has happened I

5968
04:27:09,239 --> 04:27:10,500
don't think we'll be able to do that by

5969
04:27:10,500 --> 04:27:13,140
the 24th we will do that

5970
04:27:13,140 --> 04:27:13,800
um

5971
04:27:13,800 --> 04:27:15,659
at another meeting

5972
04:27:15,659 --> 04:27:20,279
I think with this item what also

5973
04:27:20,279 --> 04:27:21,420
um

5974
04:27:21,420 --> 04:27:24,180
we are talking a change to an ordinance

5975
04:27:24,180 --> 04:27:28,859
that will require two readings that will

5976
04:27:28,859 --> 04:27:31,319
um we need to sort of plan out all of

5977
04:27:31,319 --> 04:27:32,239
that

5978
04:27:32,239 --> 04:27:35,340
but if counsel is saying that this is a

5979
04:27:35,340 --> 04:27:37,020
important item that you would like

5980
04:27:37,020 --> 04:27:38,580
discuss soon

5981
04:27:38,580 --> 04:27:40,819
I do believe that we can agendize that

5982
04:27:40,819 --> 04:27:43,500
for the

5983
04:27:43,500 --> 04:27:49,020
um January 24th date now if

5984
04:27:49,020 --> 04:27:51,720
looking at the the schedule we we may

5985
04:27:51,720 --> 04:27:52,920
want to say

5986
04:27:52,920 --> 04:27:54,180
um we're going to push some of the

5987
04:27:54,180 --> 04:27:56,040
regular business sort of up earlier or

5988
04:27:56,040 --> 04:27:58,020
have a special meeting we still need to

5989
04:27:58,020 --> 04:28:04,500
do that but but so to discuss it now we certainly need to do notifications to

5990
04:28:04,500 --> 04:28:06,380
the interested party list

5991
04:28:06,380 --> 04:28:08,699
and provide those

5992
04:28:08,699 --> 04:28:11,779
um uh people that are currently actively

5993
04:28:11,779 --> 04:28:14,819
submitting uh permits with that notice

5994
04:28:14,819 --> 04:28:17,880
um and so we will expeditiously do that

5995
04:28:17,880 --> 04:28:20,939
frankly uh beginning tomorrow morning if

5996
04:28:20,939 --> 04:28:22,680
so directed by the by the city council

5997
04:28:22,680 --> 04:28:24,000
of

5998
04:28:24,000 --> 04:28:27,720
changing things around right that's my point

5999
04:28:27,720 --> 04:28:29,279
so

6000
04:28:29,279 --> 04:28:32,580
um I still think I'll just wait so thank

6001
04:28:32,580 --> 04:28:34,260
you for that explanation that

6002
04:28:34,260 --> 04:28:37,920
hopefully it doesn't storm too much and that it doesn't mean modifications

6003
04:28:37,920 --> 04:28:39,359
can't be made at that time is that

6004
04:28:39,359 --> 04:28:45,229
correct

6005
04:28:45,239 --> 04:28:46,739
mayor Medina

6006
04:28:46,739 --> 04:28:48,960
we would have an ordinance in front of

6007
04:28:48,960 --> 04:28:50,939
you we'd have the same limitations that

6008
04:28:50,939 --> 04:28:52,620
we would typically have with a nordics

6009
04:28:52,620 --> 04:28:55,080
which is very difficult to modify draft

6010
04:28:55,080 --> 04:28:57,540
an ordinance from the dice but

6011
04:28:57,540 --> 04:29:00,239
we could make changes

6012
04:29:00,239 --> 04:29:02,040
okay thank you as long as they were

6013
04:29:02,040 --> 04:29:04,140
saying um I just want to ask

6014
04:29:04,140 --> 04:29:06,180
councilmember Hamilton because I can't

6015
04:29:06,180 --> 04:29:08,640
see oh there you go now I can see but I

6016
04:29:08,640 --> 04:29:09,960
haven't been able to see it so I just I

6017
04:29:09,960 --> 04:29:11,340
had a note here I'm just calling I've

6018
04:29:11,340 --> 04:29:13,020
been waiting for the the this part of

6019
04:29:13,020 --> 04:29:15,120
the conversation to end I I would have I

6020
04:29:15,120 --> 04:29:16,380
would have through the mayor to my way

6021
04:29:16,380 --> 04:29:17,520
in

6022
04:29:17,520 --> 04:29:20,580
um so so my question would be that since

6023
04:29:20,580 --> 04:29:22,140
the since the

6024
04:29:22,140 --> 04:29:24,840
uh permit filing period is open with the

6025
04:29:24,840 --> 04:29:32,359
deadline of next week if permit applications are received for

6026
04:29:32,359 --> 04:29:34,399
potential

6027
04:29:34,399 --> 04:29:38,819
businesses that are in the in the areas

6028
04:29:38,819 --> 04:29:41,100
that are being proposed to be removed by

6029
04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:44,159
ordinance what happens then I mean we

6030
04:29:44,159 --> 04:29:46,439
would we

6031
04:29:46,439 --> 04:29:48,779
what happens then

6032
04:29:48,779 --> 04:29:50,220
so we've already got it we've already

6033
04:29:50,220 --> 04:29:52,560
got it submitted uh

6034
04:29:52,560 --> 04:29:53,340
um

6035
04:29:53,340 --> 04:29:56,100
permit application for an area that's

6036
04:29:56,100 --> 04:29:58,439
currently

6037
04:29:58,439 --> 04:30:00,779
that by our rules are currently is is

6038
04:30:00,779 --> 04:30:03,180
currently fine

6039
04:30:03,180 --> 04:30:06,239
we would then go back to them and say oh

6040
04:30:06,239 --> 04:30:10,969
sorry we're changing the rules

6041
04:30:10,979 --> 04:30:12,199
foreign

6042
04:30:12,199 --> 04:30:16,439
manager sir uh thank you uh council

6043
04:30:16,439 --> 04:30:19,859
member uh Hamilton uh certainly

6044
04:30:19,859 --> 04:30:23,340
there's the possibility that

6045
04:30:23,340 --> 04:30:25,080
um

6046
04:30:25,080 --> 04:30:27,960
we may receive an application by the due

6047
04:30:27,960 --> 04:30:30,840
date of next Tuesday for

6048
04:30:30,840 --> 04:30:34,460
um either downtown or

6049
04:30:34,460 --> 04:30:38,279
tanfran and the majority of the council

6050
04:30:38,279 --> 04:30:42,000
may decide uh to revise the ordinance to

6051
04:30:42,000 --> 04:30:43,560
exempt those areas

6052
04:30:43,560 --> 04:30:45,359
that would mean that we would need to

6053
04:30:45,359 --> 04:30:48,359
look at our process and likely

6054
04:30:48,359 --> 04:30:50,819
um I think we could obviously assume

6055
04:30:50,819 --> 04:30:52,620
that someone that applied downtown will

6056
04:30:52,620 --> 04:30:55,560
say hey I didn't have the opportunity to

6057
04:30:55,560 --> 04:30:57,899
look at other areas because I thought

6058
04:30:57,899 --> 04:30:58,979
that

6059
04:30:58,979 --> 04:31:00,899
um this area that I was applying for

6060
04:31:00,899 --> 04:31:03,840
would be allowed and so we would need to

6061
04:31:03,840 --> 04:31:05,460
consider that I don't want to sort of

6062
04:31:05,460 --> 04:31:09,060
proffer on the Fly what we would do but

6063
04:31:09,060 --> 04:31:13,080
I but I I hearing the council member

6064
04:31:13,080 --> 04:31:15,960
Salazar's request actually honestly for

6065
04:31:15,960 --> 04:31:17,939
the first time tonight

6066
04:31:17,939 --> 04:31:19,500
um I think we need to think that through

6067
04:31:19,500 --> 04:31:22,979
and how we would modify the process

6068
04:31:22,979 --> 04:31:25,560
what I would say and I I hesitate to say

6069
04:31:25,560 --> 04:31:26,699
this that

6070
04:31:26,699 --> 04:31:28,859
if it's supported by a majority of the

6071
04:31:28,859 --> 04:31:31,800
council to look at this maybe that is

6072
04:31:31,800 --> 04:31:33,420
one of the reasons why having this

6073
04:31:33,420 --> 04:31:35,220
conversation sooner rather than later

6074
04:31:35,220 --> 04:31:36,840
may be a good thing

6075
04:31:36,840 --> 04:31:38,939
because we have people

6076
04:31:38,939 --> 04:31:43,140
uh applying for a permit based on a set

6077
04:31:43,140 --> 04:31:46,140
of criteria that the city council

6078
04:31:46,140 --> 04:31:48,180
established

6079
04:31:48,180 --> 04:31:51,319
if the city council is thinking about

6080
04:31:51,319 --> 04:31:53,520
changing that criteria I don't know that

6081
04:31:53,520 --> 04:31:55,500
to be the case but if

6082
04:31:55,500 --> 04:31:58,319
um we should probably do that sooner

6083
04:31:58,319 --> 04:31:59,720
rather than later

6084
04:31:59,720 --> 04:32:02,460
and so

6085
04:32:02,460 --> 04:32:04,979
if a majority of the council supports

6086
04:32:04,979 --> 04:32:08,100
staff agendizing that and we would come

6087
04:32:08,100 --> 04:32:09,779
back and have that discussion and again

6088
04:32:09,779 --> 04:32:14,279
I think we would need to notify the

6089
04:32:14,279 --> 04:32:16,199
um interested party list or anyone that

6090
04:32:16,199 --> 04:32:18,300
has picked up an application or called

6091
04:32:18,300 --> 04:32:20,819
in with a question to say hey I I'm

6092
04:32:20,819 --> 04:32:22,319
looking at

6093
04:32:22,319 --> 04:32:25,439
um your application packet that you

6094
04:32:25,439 --> 04:32:28,080
submitted and so we would certainly do

6095
04:32:28,080 --> 04:32:30,659
that if directed

6096
04:32:30,659 --> 04:32:32,760
okay and and we do have a member of the

6097
04:32:32,760 --> 04:32:35,220
public so I had a question but I want to

6098
04:32:35,220 --> 04:32:38,760
uh please uh until as the hours late

6099
04:32:38,760 --> 04:32:45,359
we have one remote hand raise Courtney I will be bringing you in

6100
04:32:45,359 --> 04:32:47,279
Courtney you may begin whenever you're

6101
04:32:47,279 --> 04:32:48,180
ready

6102
04:32:48,180 --> 04:32:50,580
hi yes can you all hear me yes we can

6103
04:32:50,580 --> 04:32:53,939
hear you all right thank you so much so

6104
04:32:53,939 --> 04:32:55,979
um my name is Courtney Caron and I am a

6105
04:32:55,979 --> 04:33:00,239
cannabis attorney who has specialized in

6106
04:33:00,239 --> 04:33:02,220
um the merit-based application process

6107
04:33:02,220 --> 04:33:05,459
for the last several years and what I'm

6108
04:33:05,459 --> 04:33:07,740
hearing right now is is problematic to

6109
04:33:07,740 --> 04:33:10,500
me excuse me and also causing me a

6110
04:33:10,500 --> 04:33:12,779
little bit of stress because

6111
04:33:12,779 --> 04:33:15,660
individuals who apply for these

6112
04:33:15,660 --> 04:33:17,879
merit-based application processes spend

6113
04:33:17,879 --> 04:33:20,299
a great deal of time and money preparing

6114
04:33:20,299 --> 04:33:23,879
applications and part of of that process

6115
04:33:23,879 --> 04:33:25,439
that you've implemented is having a

6116
04:33:25,439 --> 04:33:28,080
property that is zoned correctly and

6117
04:33:28,080 --> 04:33:33,719
just the entitlement of of getting that properly zoned property

6118
04:33:33,719 --> 04:33:36,420
um you know can cost you know thousands

6119
04:33:36,420 --> 04:33:38,160
upon thousands of dollars during this

6120
04:33:38,160 --> 04:33:40,320
holding period of preparing the

6121
04:33:40,320 --> 04:33:42,779
application and so if the city is

6122
04:33:42,779 --> 04:33:45,660
actually considering the city council

6123
04:33:45,660 --> 04:33:46,920
members are actually considering

6124
04:33:46,920 --> 04:33:49,799
modifying the existing ordinance that

6125
04:33:49,799 --> 04:33:52,080
has been used to create this merit-based

6126
04:33:52,080 --> 04:33:54,600
process then frankly the merit-based

6127
04:33:54,600 --> 04:33:57,359
process needs to be paused so that

6128
04:33:57,359 --> 04:33:59,520
nobody is spending you know additional

6129
04:33:59,520 --> 04:34:01,740
funds to prepare an application and

6130
04:34:01,740 --> 04:34:03,959
submit it only to find out that the

6131
04:34:03,959 --> 04:34:05,580
property that they have located in the

6132
04:34:05,580 --> 04:34:07,020
application they have prepared is

6133
04:34:07,020 --> 04:34:08,520
actually no longer going to be valid

6134
04:34:08,520 --> 04:34:11,820
under an amended ordinance so

6135
04:34:11,820 --> 04:34:13,619
um I really don't think it would be

6136
04:34:13,619 --> 04:34:15,299
advantageous for the city to accept

6137
04:34:15,299 --> 04:34:17,879
applications on the 17th if the city

6138
04:34:17,879 --> 04:34:19,980
council does intend to review that

6139
04:34:19,980 --> 04:34:22,080
ordinance because it is extremely unfair

6140
04:34:22,080 --> 04:34:25,439
to all of the applicants who may fall in

6141
04:34:25,439 --> 04:34:27,420
one of those those zones with a property

6142
04:34:27,420 --> 04:34:30,660
that is is going to be amended and

6143
04:34:30,660 --> 04:34:32,219
further I think you're going to find

6144
04:34:32,219 --> 04:34:34,799
yourself in quite a bit of litigation if

6145
04:34:34,799 --> 04:34:37,080
you do accept applications and then

6146
04:34:37,080 --> 04:34:39,480
modify an ordinance that excludes people

6147
04:34:39,480 --> 04:34:42,719
and then give those people you know an

6148
04:34:42,719 --> 04:34:44,760
additional timeline to find a new

6149
04:34:44,760 --> 04:34:45,920
property

6150
04:34:45,920 --> 04:34:48,119
I believe you're going to have you know

6151
04:34:48,119 --> 04:34:50,039
some real real issues with that just

6152
04:34:50,039 --> 04:34:51,959
based off my experience with this

6153
04:34:51,959 --> 04:34:54,000
merit-based application process in

6154
04:34:54,000 --> 04:34:55,920
pretty much every city in the state of

6155
04:34:55,920 --> 04:34:57,600
California that has had a merit-based

6156
04:34:57,600 --> 04:35:00,240
application process so I would just

6157
04:35:00,240 --> 04:35:03,240
caution accepting applications if the

6158
04:35:03,240 --> 04:35:06,180
intent is actually to revise the

6159
04:35:06,180 --> 04:35:10,500
ordinance and would strongly urge that that the city manager's office put

6160
04:35:10,500 --> 04:35:13,920
a pause on this entire process until the

6161
04:35:13,920 --> 04:35:15,840
city council has made a determination as

6162
04:35:15,840 --> 04:35:17,580
to whether or not they're actually going

6163
04:35:17,580 --> 04:35:20,219
to amend the ordinance that might affect

6164
04:35:20,219 --> 04:35:21,660
those who have already prepared

6165
04:35:21,660 --> 04:35:23,160
applications

6166
04:35:23,160 --> 04:35:24,719
um since since the finish line is just

6167
04:35:24,719 --> 04:35:26,160
around the corner here thank you so much

6168
04:35:26,160 --> 04:35:27,779
for your time

6169
04:35:27,779 --> 04:35:30,119
thank you for staying on this late and

6170
04:35:30,119 --> 04:35:31,859
thank you for your comments

6171
04:35:31,859 --> 04:35:35,219
City management sure so what I think is

6172
04:35:35,219 --> 04:35:37,141
important is that we not

6173
04:35:37,141 --> 04:35:38,279
um

6174
04:35:38,279 --> 04:35:40,080
try to make every decision that we may

6175
04:35:40,080 --> 04:35:42,539
need to make tonight I think what we're

6176
04:35:42,539 --> 04:35:44,879
hearing is

6177
04:35:44,879 --> 04:35:48,900
um based on an agendas Council Comet a

6178
04:35:48,900 --> 04:35:52,260
member of the city council asking their

6179
04:35:52,260 --> 04:35:55,980
colleagues to provide direction to staff

6180
04:35:55,980 --> 04:35:59,219
to to schedule an item if a majority of

6181
04:35:59,219 --> 04:36:04,039
counsel accepts that staff will do fully

6182
04:36:04,039 --> 04:36:06,959
perform that Duty I think that there are

6183
04:36:06,959 --> 04:36:08,400
other decisions that need to be made

6184
04:36:08,400 --> 04:36:11,219
want us notifying everyone

6185
04:36:11,219 --> 04:36:12,900
um certainly the manager's office has

6186
04:36:12,900 --> 04:36:15,359
the ability to extend the deadline or

6187
04:36:15,359 --> 04:36:18,240
pause applications I think based on what

6188
04:36:18,240 --> 04:36:22,141
council directs we will certainly take

6189
04:36:22,141 --> 04:36:24,119
the appropriate action and and look into

6190
04:36:24,119 --> 04:36:26,820
looking to what is the appropriate next

6191
04:36:26,820 --> 04:36:28,500
steps but I don't think we need to

6192
04:36:28,500 --> 04:36:30,600
process through those right now I think

6193
04:36:30,600 --> 04:36:33,359
what is before us is a member of the

6194
04:36:33,359 --> 04:36:35,279
city council asking their colleagues to

6195
04:36:35,279 --> 04:36:37,500
agenda as an item I think we address

6196
04:36:37,500 --> 04:36:40,379
that and then we let staff process

6197
04:36:40,379 --> 04:36:42,000
through all the decisions that need to

6198
04:36:42,000 --> 04:36:45,299
be made to prepare for your policy

6199
04:36:45,299 --> 04:36:46,920
discussion

6200
04:36:46,920 --> 04:36:48,900
thank you city manager is there any

6201
04:36:48,900 --> 04:36:50,279
other questions or comments from

6202
04:36:50,279 --> 04:36:52,619
colleagues at this time

6203
04:36:52,619 --> 04:36:55,020
already opened the public uh vice mayor

6204
04:36:55,020 --> 04:36:57,240
just want to make sure

6205
04:36:57,240 --> 04:36:59,279
okay thank you

6206
04:36:59,279 --> 04:37:02,580
um with that is there again any action

6207
04:37:02,580 --> 04:37:04,680
council member Salazar

6208
04:37:04,680 --> 04:37:05,340
um

6209
04:37:05,340 --> 04:37:08,699
following our new processes I will make

6210
04:37:08,699 --> 04:37:10,619
a motion

6211
04:37:10,619 --> 04:37:14,459
to uh direct staff to bring back revised

6212
04:37:14,459 --> 04:37:15,959
Origins

6213
04:37:15,959 --> 04:37:19,199
motion uh Salazar seconded Alvarez we're

6214
04:37:19,199 --> 04:37:23,760
all called please oh I'm sorry pause question city manager can I just

6215
04:37:23,760 --> 04:37:26,939
ask the council member to restate the

6216
04:37:26,939 --> 04:37:29,160
changes in his motion that he's asking

6217
04:37:29,160 --> 04:37:31,619
staff to make so we have complete uh

6218
04:37:31,619 --> 04:37:35,219
clarity thank you I I will do that so uh

6219
04:37:35,219 --> 04:37:37,859
I will make a motion that uh we direct

6220
04:37:37,859 --> 04:37:41,779
staff to bring back revised ordinance uh

6221
04:37:41,779 --> 04:37:45,600
that those two businesses can be either

6222
04:37:45,600 --> 04:37:48,080
both delivery services

6223
04:37:48,080 --> 04:37:51,000
or one delivery service and one retail

6224
04:37:51,000 --> 04:37:54,240
the permitted zones

6225
04:37:54,240 --> 04:37:56,760
a second

6226
04:37:56,760 --> 04:37:58,740
on the question city manager is that

6227
04:37:58,740 --> 04:38:03,900
which no mayor Rico Medina yes

6228
04:38:03,900 --> 04:38:09,410
that action passes uh 3-2

6229
04:38:09,420 --> 04:38:12,660
anything else under uh Council comments

6230
04:38:12,660 --> 04:38:13,859
uh

6231
04:38:13,859 --> 04:38:17,279
just one comment I just wanted to uh

6232
04:38:17,279 --> 04:38:21,119
welcome our newest member to uh

6233
04:38:21,119 --> 04:38:25,670
thank you thank you vice mayor Hamilton

6234
04:38:25,680 --> 04:38:27,660
uh try going till three that's what I'm

6235
04:38:27,660 --> 04:38:28,619
doing

6236
04:38:28,619 --> 04:38:29,879
um

6237
04:38:29,879 --> 04:38:32,039
uh no I don't have any comments

6238
04:38:32,039 --> 04:38:33,719
thank you and do the lateness support

6239
04:38:33,719 --> 04:38:36,420
being here late and city manager I would

6240
04:38:36,420 --> 04:38:38,039
think please don't show up at eight in

6241
04:38:38,039 --> 04:38:39,180
the morning

6242
04:38:39,180 --> 04:38:41,520
um for the team so anyway with that we

6243
04:38:41,520 --> 04:38:42,840
will go ahead and adjourn the next

6244
04:38:42,840 --> 04:38:44,279
regular city council meeting that will

6245
04:38:44,279 --> 04:38:47,219
be scheduled on January the 24th 2023 at

6246
04:38:47,219 --> 04:38:48,600
7 pm here at the senior center meeting

6247
04:38:48,600 --> 04:38:52,070
adjourned

6248
04:38:52,080 --> 04:38:57,540
okay

6249
04:38:57,550 --> 04:39:41,230
[Music]

6250
04:39:41,240 --> 04:39:47,710
thank you

6251
04:39:47,720 --> 04:39:52,580
[Music]