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[2:40] good evening everyone
[2:42] and first and foremost welcome to the
[2:44] San Bruno city council meeting of the
[2:46] regular meeting of January the 10th 2023
[2:48] and uh Happy New Year to everyone
[2:51] and may I please have roll call
[2:55] council member Alvarez
[2:58] council member Marty
[3:00] here council member Salazar
[3:03] here vice mayor Hamilton
[3:06] here mayor Rico Medina here
[3:10] thank you very much all president
[3:12] accounted for and now item number three
[3:14] will be the Pledge of Allegiance I've
[3:17] asked if the president of the Board of
[3:18] Supervisors and our supervisor for San
[3:22] Bruno Dave Pine could lead us in the
[3:23] pledge this evening
[3:26] foreign
[3:46] thank you Mr Pine
[3:48] at this time uh we will go on to item
[3:52] four which is public comments for items
[3:53] that are not on the agenda any member of
[3:55] the public wishing to speak we'll have
[3:57] up to three minutes the city clerk has your speaker card so thank you for
[4:02] everyone doing that so those that are
[4:05] present in the audience will be asked to
[4:07] speak first and if there are any that
[4:09] are via Zoom we will take those at that
[4:11] time so with that city clerk if you
[4:13] could call the names we have an
[4:15] in-person speaker Chris Borges
[4:22] foreign
[4:34] just hold on I just want to make sure
[4:36] your mic is live so we're just going to
[4:38] check that real quick hold on
[4:41] good thank you all right sorry for the
[4:43] interruption so you go up uh Crystal
[4:45] Springs Road on the right side there's a
[4:48] white safety line that goes all the way
[4:49] up it's completely faded and when you
[4:52] come down on the right side faded
[4:55] 25 mile per hour Zone people are flying
[4:58] coming down about 50 53.
[5:01] the middle of the two lanes that are
[5:04] striped those are worn out
[5:06] then you go down
[5:08] um
[5:09] what is it a Sanborn Avenue in Princeton
[5:12] so people are a little bit nervous
[5:13] coming over from Princeton Sanborn
[5:16] Avenue make a left on Princeton they're
[5:17] coming down they're really just flying
[5:20] coming down Sanborn Avenue unsafe
[5:23] and then a couple different issues
[5:25] there's a tree in front of Walgreens on
[5:27] San Mateo Avenue that has not been
[5:29] rectified over two years we've been
[5:31] talking about it I trust it
[5:33] it's dark it's depleted people are
[5:36] walking down
[5:38] on the sidewalk coming out and it's
[5:39] pitch black so it's unsafe for kids
[5:41] adults seniors coming out of there
[5:44] they say it's Walgreens tree it's on the sidewalk it's outside the
[5:49] perimeter of Walgreens
[5:51] has not been taken care of
[5:54] the garbage throughout San Bruno is
[5:56] getting
[5:57] really bad you know if if you got the
[6:00] city of Sierra Moreno
[6:01] and you got City Hall is clean we should
[6:04] try to keep the rest of the San Bruno
[6:06] also clean just like the city hall
[6:10] you have a San Bruno fire department
[6:12] that's the oldest Fire Department in San
[6:14] Mateo County
[6:16] we got some big issues ahead of us to
[6:18] make some good decisions to move forward
[6:21] and uh you know school zones I think the
[6:24] patrol needs to be you know maybe out
[6:26] there a little bit more for the kids in
[6:27] the morning
[6:29] and uh when schools let out
[6:31] when you're seen it's a big difference
[6:33] when you're seen and you're out there
[6:35] and the safety of a kid is a huge
[6:38] difference
[6:39] more on the back side on crestmore Drive
[6:42] near John Muir
[6:44] you have a crosswalk coming out of the
[6:46] school
[6:48] so the Red Zone when they sprayed it
[6:51] it's really short so when you're coming
[6:53] down crestmore kids are coming out
[6:56] there's a blind spot because the car is
[6:57] parked too close to the crosswalk
[7:00] if you open up the crosswalk I mean the
[7:02] Red Zone and spray it a little bit
[7:04] further up you won't have a blind spot
[7:06] for the kid to come through or a child
[7:08] or a senior or anybody a pedestrian to
[7:11] come through that crosswalk to be seen
[7:14] so a little bit of a
[7:16] follow-up it's tough for people to come
[7:19] to the meetings but a lot of people are
[7:21] talking about this a lot of things in
[7:23] the city of San Bruno
[7:25] and it's hard for people to call and
[7:28] follow up and do the due diligence of
[7:30] what the city is supposed to be doing
[7:32] for the people the taxpayers of San
[7:33] Bruno
[7:35] each department should be communicating
[7:37] with others they should be talking to
[7:39] the city manager they should be talking
[7:41] to you guys and you know bring it back
[7:43] to what it used to be like when Mr
[7:44] Marshall was here open door policy let's
[7:47] take care of business let's move forward
[7:51] that's it thank you Mr boges thank you
[7:55] I'm receiving information that maybe the
[7:57] sound is not functioning on uh
[8:01] city net service so if anybody could
[8:03] just check that real quick please next
[8:05] speaker please
[8:08] we have one remote hand up Tim
[8:12] there are no other speakers within the
[8:14] audience that we should speak on public
[8:15] comments okay please
[8:18] Tim I will now be bringing you in
[8:21] Tim whenever you're ready you may begin
[8:25] ahai actually it's Raina good evening
[8:28] everyone thank you so much for the
[8:30] opportunity to speak tonight and I want
[8:33] to bring
[8:34] um
[8:35] a couple of issues well the same issue
[8:38] is one is the safety of Huntington and
[8:42] Florida
[8:43] there's not a stop sign there so it's a
[8:46] blind spot to turn left on Flora to on
[8:51] to
[8:52] um Huntington going north going north of
[8:56] course uh also Florida Park you know
[8:59] Florida and Taylor is basically
[9:03] um
[9:04] it's not safe we need at least The
[9:08] Pedestrian right away
[9:10] okay it is about time I see uh that it's
[9:14] going to be a dress about how finishing
[9:16] Florida Park we don't need okay the
[9:19] Florida Park is fine I just I I think
[9:21] the families in the neighborhood don't
[9:24] have the time to be calling and
[9:26] following up but safety in the park
[9:28] close by it's important because the the
[9:33] uh I work every day and I I I'm not the
[9:36] only one who basically Femme for
[9:38] ourselves when the cards just run like
[9:42] 40 miles an hour
[9:44] okay so we need pedestrian right away
[9:47] Taylor everywhere surrounding Florida
[9:49] Park so
[9:52] um I don't know what else uh to say but
[9:55] please focus on that that is so
[9:57] important
[9:59] and thank you so much for allowing me to
[10:01] speak
[10:02] thank you for your comments rain
[10:08] I do not have any other speaker
[10:10] oh the remote hands are raised thank you
[10:12] very much thank you for your comments
[10:14] we'll move on to item five which is
[10:17] announcements and presentations uh first
[10:19] we'll start with item a staff update on
[10:22] the city's response to the late 2022 and
[10:24] the early obviously we all know this
[10:26] 2023
[10:28] winter storms
[10:29] that was not uh sound effects that was
[10:32] done
[10:34] and that is what we just heard but with
[10:37] that I'd like to turn it over to our
[10:38] city manager uh which um I don't know if
[10:41] it's a good sign or not for that for
[10:42] intro from outside
[10:45] that was very fitting introduction thank
[10:49] you mayor Devon Grogan city manager to
[10:52] the mayor members of council members of
[10:54] the public both here and at home my name
[10:57] is Javon Grogan and I'm the city manager
[10:59] and I have the pleasure of providing a
[11:02] brief update on the storm that we just
[11:06] hear we have an another mini storm front
[11:09] approaching
[11:10] uh this will be a very brief
[11:12] conversation uh up on the screen you
[11:15] have the uh also Matthew Lee our Public
[11:18] Works director uh he is here uh but I
[11:21] have uh agreed to run uh the council in
[11:25] the community through this brief
[11:26] presentation uh we'll provide a quick
[11:28] overview of our storm preparation uh
[11:31] we'll talk about the city's response our
[11:33] activation of the what we call the EOC
[11:35] our Emergency Operations Center we'll
[11:38] talk a little bit about the public
[11:39] messaging as well as a picture is worth
[11:42] a thousand words so we'll probably have
[11:44] about 15 000 words in this presentation
[11:47] via pictures and then talk about next
[11:50] steps and certainly take any questions
[11:52] from the city council
[11:54] so just a general note uh every time
[11:57] there's a storm we do preparation
[11:59] leading up to this storm we cleaned
[12:02] trash in the community and removed
[12:04] debris we cleaned what's called catch
[12:06] basins uh the grapes and also our trash
[12:10] capture devices at our storm inlets
[12:13] across the city we know that those
[12:15] routinely accumulate with trash and we
[12:17] try and clean those out ahead of a storm
[12:19] we also ordered a number of supplies we
[12:21] monitor the weather the county activated
[12:24] their Emergency Operations Center and so
[12:26] know that your staff here at the city of
[12:28] San Bruno was a part of all of those
[12:30] calls and we ensured that we had the
[12:33] appropriate personnel on on scene
[12:37] so as We Know
[12:40] from all the news reports these were
[12:42] record storms uh the San Francisco
[12:44] region experienced a total storm surge
[12:47] uh greater than the amount of rainfall
[12:50] that has fallen
[12:51] in a five-day period in the last hundred
[12:55] years second in the last hundred years
[12:57] and so we here at the city of San Bruno
[13:00] activated our Emergency Operations
[13:02] Center the city's Municipal Code gives
[13:04] the city manager the power to sign an
[13:06] immediate Proclamation and so I took
[13:09] that action and we immediately activated
[13:11] our Emergency Operations Center to
[13:13] monitor the storm the picture that is on
[13:16] the screen is a picture of your San
[13:18] Bruno ELC and our team
[13:21] monitoring and actually responding to
[13:23] incidents we also set up something that
[13:26] thankfully we did not have to activate
[13:28] which is a tep a temporary evacuation
[13:30] Center that was going to be here at the
[13:33] senior center it's a location that we
[13:35] have that has a generator and could be a
[13:37] warming place and a evacuation Center if
[13:40] we if we need needed and we were fully
[13:43] prepared and even tonight we have left
[13:46] our emergency trailer out there uh
[13:48] filled filled with the necessary
[13:50] supplies should we need to activate
[13:53] so uh sandbags as we all know sandbags
[13:57] were in short supply not just in the
[13:58] county but across the bay area
[14:01] thankfully due to the work of our public
[14:03] works department we ordered pre-filled
[14:07] sandbags but like most cities we quickly
[14:09] ran out I'm happy to announce that here
[14:12] in the city of San Bruno we did not have
[14:13] a shortage however like many other
[14:16] communities experienced we had about one
[14:18] day where we had a low on short on on
[14:21] sandbags and then about three o'clock we
[14:24] were able to utilize one of our vendors
[14:26] Jericho Project that is helping us with
[14:28] our fire mitigation and within a phone
[14:31] call had about 20 people here in a
[14:34] matter of 30 minutes filling sandbags
[14:36] for this community and so those pictures
[14:38] there are indicative of what occurred
[14:41] over several days of the storm surge we
[14:44] had residents coming in very orderly
[14:47] picking up sandbags and we continue to
[14:50] have necessary sandbags for both the
[14:52] community and protect public
[14:54] infrastructure so I just want to
[14:56] congratulate both the public works
[14:57] department and Jericho Project and thank
[14:59] you thank them for the work that they
[15:01] did
[15:02] as the community and the council knows
[15:04] we certainly pushed out a number of
[15:06] communication on frankly every medium
[15:08] that we have available just want to take
[15:10] a moment and we'll do it a little bit
[15:12] later remind the community that SMC
[15:15] alert San Mateo County alert we really
[15:18] need you to register for that that is
[15:19] how we will notify you in an emergency
[15:22] sort of doing a reverse 9-1-1 where we
[15:26] dial every phone possible that's not a
[15:29] opt-in SMC alert is a opt-in system and
[15:32] we really need every member of the
[15:33] community to opt into that system
[15:35] because we can actually triangulate by
[15:37] neighborhood and buy the information
[15:39] that you put in when you register for
[15:42] that system and so I won't go through
[15:44] all of the announcements but just thank
[15:47] you thank you to our Communications team
[15:48] in the EOC that pushed out all of the
[15:52] various alerts to the community
[15:54] I hear the thunderstorms continuing to
[15:57] roll as we talk we set up a number of
[15:59] dedicated
[16:01] contact cell phone numbers we don't want
[16:04] everyone calling the non-emergency 9-1-1
[16:08] number for everything and so there are
[16:10] phones phone numbers to call if you see
[16:13] a flooded intersection if you need help
[16:16] with Logistics housing and so all of
[16:19] that information was pushed out on our
[16:21] website and is available to the
[16:23] community but in the event of emergency
[16:25] always call 9-1-1 and when in doubt call
[16:28] our non our non-emergency number
[16:31] also important to note in just a minute
[16:33] when I take my seat we will have one
[16:36] Shoreline provide a presentation on
[16:39] their work with regard to the seventh
[16:42] and walnut area and other work to
[16:44] develop a long-term fix for some of the
[16:47] flooding that has occurred in our
[16:48] community just an important note that we
[16:51] worked with one Shoreline and thanks to
[16:53] some infrastructure that they've
[16:55] recently installed we were able to push
[16:57] out a proactive message to alert the
[16:59] community that we did expect flooding in
[17:02] that area and continue to issue alerts
[17:05] specific to that area
[17:08] overall our preliminary damage
[17:10] assessment has approximately well at the
[17:13] time we printed this 14 but now there's
[17:15] a list of 16 areas where we've had
[17:18] various mudslides sinkholes we had a
[17:22] street light outage of in a portion of
[17:25] our community near Whitman Way and
[17:27] Princeton after and during the storm as
[17:31] well as
[17:33] manhole depressions and so the council
[17:37] should know that as a part of the
[17:38] emergency declaration process we do have
[17:41] a 72-hour time frame to get in a
[17:43] preliminary damage assessment we have
[17:45] completed that both for the storm that
[17:47] hit on New Year's Eve and this storm
[17:50] that occurred just a few days ago and so
[17:53] know that those preliminary damage
[17:55] assessments have been done however a few
[17:58] of the
[18:00] um
[18:00] impacts from the storm uh will be long
[18:04] term and we will need to identify a
[18:07] permanent fix for them and we'll go
[18:08] through a few pictures right now and
[18:11] certainly there was localized Flooding
[18:13] at areas in San Bruno that are common uh
[18:16] and and prone to flooding I think we all
[18:18] in the community know that San Bruno has
[18:21] a deficient storm water system we have a
[18:24] storm water system that we know is over
[18:26] 100 years old and the city did a study
[18:28] in 2017 and there was more than 50
[18:31] million dollars of known improvements uh
[18:33] and and we will are and will continue to
[18:36] work on providing more funding for our
[18:37] storm water system uh certainly this
[18:40] flood surge was record levels of water
[18:43] but as we'll see in some of these next
[18:45] pictures some of the more concerning
[18:48] issues are are the landslides and so
[18:51] we've had a number of locations where
[18:52] there's been landslides and we've had
[18:54] our geotechnical Engineers out to assess
[18:57] these areas sometimes they're behind
[19:00] homes other times they're on areas that
[19:02] you can visibly see for example driving
[19:04] San Bruno Avenue but but know that your
[19:07] staff has not only taken temporary
[19:10] measures to visqueen or put plastic to
[19:13] cover a number of the slides but we've
[19:15] also had geotechnical Engineers out and
[19:18] I hiked many of these areas yesterday
[19:20] with our staff
[19:22] but of most concern or let me talk about
[19:25] trees as we know high winds that we
[19:27] continue to experience we had a number
[19:29] of tree failures many people in the
[19:32] community did not experience closed
[19:34] roads and that's really because of the
[19:37] wonderful work of our Public Works staff
[19:39] and our fire department that were out
[19:41] there immediately as a tree fell and
[19:44] removed it from the roadway but we had
[19:45] trees that fell all throughout the
[19:48] community due to the high wind taking
[19:50] out power power lines but a most concern
[19:54] are two sinkholes one in the
[19:58] uh Northern parking lot of Church of the
[20:01] Highlands that is actually a city storm
[20:03] drain that's the picture in the middle
[20:05] that is a temporary fix that our
[20:07] consultant uh or one of our emergency
[20:10] contractors was able to put in place
[20:12] it's a 54 and storm dream Culvert that
[20:15] collapsed and created a sinkhole there
[20:19] has been a temporary fix and there's
[20:20] currently three metal grates covering
[20:22] that fix but we do expect this to be a
[20:24] very large and likely very expensive fix
[20:27] and if you go there now you can hear the
[20:30] water gushing we cannot fix it in the
[20:32] middle of the storm season but we do
[20:35] believe that this temporary fix will hold but there is a large section
[20:39] of the pipe that is depressed and has
[20:41] created a sinkhole and so that area is
[20:43] currently off limits in addition near
[20:45] city park at Cypress and Crystal Springs
[20:47] there was a sinkhole that developed
[20:49] under the sidewalk uh happy to announce
[20:52] that that a permanent fix has already
[20:54] been installed for that our contractor
[20:57] worked throughout the night until five
[20:59] o'clock in the morning one day just to
[21:01] fix that when we had a break in between
[21:03] the storms we have not yet repaired the
[21:05] concrete of course due to the due to the
[21:07] Rain
[21:08] next steps we will we are in the early
[21:11] phase as I mentioned of our assessment
[21:13] process we will continue to prepare for
[21:15] these storms that are coming thankfully
[21:18] they appear to be less in severity than
[21:20] what we've experienced we will complete
[21:22] our damage assessments provide that
[21:24] information to the council and later on
[21:27] your agenda tonight is the ratification
[21:29] to continue the emergency the existence
[21:32] of the local emergency and we anticipate
[21:35] continuing with that local emergency
[21:38] and asking the council to Sunset that
[21:41] emergency at the next council meeting we
[21:44] still would like to con continue with
[21:46] the activation of our ELC as we continue
[21:49] to assess and then experience continued
[21:53] precipitation make sure that we're able
[21:55] to respond and respond appropriately
[21:56] thank you happy to take any questions
[22:02] thank you very much before I asked my
[22:04] colleagues for any questions I do want
[22:06] to thank the county
[22:08] for their efforts
[22:10] opening up the Event Center getting Red
[22:12] Cross there established but also just
[22:15] the county and the Dem having the calls
[22:18] to the emergency services Council in
[22:20] addition to staff so what I want to say
[22:21] is some of these calls are at 9am 1 30
[22:24] p.m 4 P.M uh and I was on those and was
[22:28] even at a celebration of life Sunday and
[22:31] there are staff is on it as I am and so
[22:34] I want to thank the staff because I was
[22:37] always assured San Bruno was well
[22:39] represented and was there taking care of
[22:41] things and I appreciate that and that's
[22:44] where everybody from the county is
[22:46] telling each other what their status is
[22:48] what what what's happening and so it's
[22:50] again the county having a collective
[22:52] effort and this was a great mechanism
[22:54] that was learned from from covid
[22:56] and I want to thank staff because we
[22:59] know from our uh public works department
[23:03] Community Services Department police
[23:05] fire it's a lot and a lot came on New
[23:10] Year's Eve and and into the new year
[23:13] and I know for the whole County staff I
[23:16] know I had a meeting on uh
[23:19] ALS jpa and here we were at 10 A.M in
[23:21] Brisbane manager who runs that was
[23:24] saying the whole town is out the whole
[23:26] city is out uh Burlingame was operating
[23:29] on a generator at the city hall so it's
[23:31] really been daunting for folks so really
[23:33] kudos to everybody in the county and
[23:35] kudos to the city of San Bruno who I
[23:38] felt very
[23:40] comfortable and rested well somewhat but
[23:45] knowing that things were being
[23:46] represented present and knew they had
[23:49] things in hand so I'd like the city
[23:52] manager
[23:53] Mr Lee to the Chiefs to please pass it
[23:56] on to
[23:57] um and see uh
[23:59] the director
[24:00] but anyway everybody can please pass it
[24:03] on uh with that questions from
[24:05] colleagues
[24:07] if not uh right now uh through the vice
[24:11] mayor uh Hamilton
[24:13] yeah not a question just to comment and
[24:15] I won't uh Echo everything that you that
[24:17] you just said um although we all feel
[24:20] the same way
[24:21] um uh regarding the performance of our
[24:23] staff
[24:24] um police fire Community Services
[24:26] sitting at public works all the all the teams working so hard
[24:31] um uh for us through this I just wanted
[24:34] to take a second to reiterate
[24:37] um what the city manager said in the
[24:39] presentation regarding the importance of
[24:41] um of everyone to to download and
[24:44] participate in the SMC alert
[24:47] um system it really is quick and easy to
[24:51] sign up
[24:52] um and it's not a it's not one of those
[24:54] things where you sign up and then you
[24:55] regret it because you get a bunch of you
[24:57] know you get a bunch of things that
[24:58] aren't um that aren't uh important the
[25:01] stuff that comes out when you get the
[25:03] when or you know road closures and and
[25:06] you know things that are things that you
[25:09] need to know things that are important
[25:11] and it's really a it's really worth it
[25:14] and I highly highly recommend that
[25:17] everyone download it
[25:19] smclert.org thank you no other questions from
[25:23] colleagues and is there any members of
[25:25] the public that wish to comment or ask
[25:27] questions on the section
[25:34] we have one hand raised Robert Regal I will not be bringing you
[25:39] in
[25:45] I just had one question did the city
[25:47] experience any ssos during the
[25:51] end of the year first of the year
[26:02] I'm sorry
[26:03] to the mayor would you like me to take
[26:06] that um members of the public may not uh
[26:09] have heard but he I think the caller
[26:11] said SSO sanitary sewer overflows uh yes
[26:15] we did we experienced two sanitary sewer
[26:19] overflows oftentimes when you have
[26:21] localized flooding uh the sewer pipe
[26:24] will fill up with storm water and then
[26:28] bubble up at some of the clean outs and
[26:30] manholes and that's why the health
[26:32] officer in San Mateo County and we
[26:34] always say don't walk in flood waters
[26:36] they can be contaminated with bacteria
[26:38] so we did report to sanitary sewer
[26:41] overflows of one of just over 5 000
[26:45] gallons and one of if memory serves me
[26:48] around two or four hundred gallons but
[26:51] we we will confirm that but certainly
[26:54] anytime you have localized flooding
[26:56] especially in a neighborhood where
[26:58] there's residential sewer pipes you
[27:01] oftentimes have sanitary sewer overflows
[27:05] thank you very much no other comments
[27:07] then I would ask maybe manager if you
[27:10] don't go far
[27:11] um because we'll go on to the next item B on Shoreline presentation on the
[27:17] tide cloud gate reinplacement project
[27:20] and if you could do the intro and sure
[27:22] uh I would like to introduce the
[27:25] executive director of Juan Shoreline uh
[27:28] Lynn matherman who will provide our
[27:30] presentation he is also here with
[27:33] supervisor Dave fine and I think we will
[27:35] have a supervisor Pine first
[27:38] thank you city manager
[27:41] president uh supervisor fine well good
[27:44] evening council members and staff I'm
[27:46] happy to be here tonight in my capacity
[27:49] as the chair of one Shoreline which is
[27:52] the San Mateo County flood and sea level
[27:54] rise resiliency District I'm really
[27:56] pleased to have the opportunity to talk
[27:58] about one Shoreline and how we're
[27:59] working in San Bruno to address flooding
[28:03] concerns so one Shoreline was
[28:06] established in 2020 with really three
[28:08] objectives one was to approach these
[28:11] problems in a multi-jurisdictional way
[28:14] um second was the really to build staff
[28:16] expertise and third was to be able to
[28:19] compete effectively for
[28:21] funding to to attack these problems and
[28:24] we've made good Headway on those on
[28:25] those goals we recently completed a
[28:28] project in Redwood City called The Bay
[28:30] Front Canal which had really languished
[28:32] for many many decades because it's hard
[28:34] for the cities to come together
[28:36] in terms of expertise we have a small
[28:38] and mighty staff it's only four people
[28:39] but they wake up every day thinking
[28:41] about flooding and a small team can go a
[28:43] long way and we've had some success in
[28:46] procuring funds we recently received
[28:48] eight million dollars to work on a
[28:49] project in Burlingame Millbrae but
[28:52] tonight's discussion is of course
[28:54] focused on on San Bruno so when matter
[28:57] men will give the presentation talk a
[28:59] little bit about one Shoreline but then
[29:02] spend time on some of the immediate
[29:04] actions that we've we've taken here to
[29:07] try to alleviate flooding in the in the
[29:09] Bel Air neighborhood we're concerning
[29:11] the tide Gates and the pump stations and
[29:13] then turn our attention to you know what
[29:15] are the longer term solutions for
[29:17] flooding in Bel Air where we're
[29:19] recognizant of the fact that the Bel Air
[29:21] neighborhood is in a FEMA flood zone and
[29:23] that's very difficult for the residents
[29:25] to have to pay those extra charges
[29:28] so with that let me introduce so Ann
[29:30] matterman the CEO of one Shoreline
[29:40] good evening thank you for being here
[29:42] yeah it's good to see you again Mr Mayor
[29:44] and uh good to see you council members
[29:47] thank you chair Pine for kicking us off
[29:50] uh I wanted to also thank the city
[29:53] representative from this part of the
[29:55] county we have seven board members five
[29:58] of which are from cities and the city
[30:00] representative from the North Bay Side
[30:02] is Donna Coulson from Burlingame and so
[30:05] she also represents the interests of
[30:07] this area and she's a contact for for
[30:09] you as well as supervisor Pine also
[30:13] wanted to acknowledge and thank McKenna
[30:15] Wong who's sitting two rows behind Dave
[30:17] Pine she's our project manager that
[30:19] focuses in on San Bruno and has worked
[30:21] extensively with City staff on what
[30:24] we're about to talk about today
[30:26] and and then finally acknowledge the
[30:30] substantial efforts of Matt Lee and
[30:33] Dennis Bosch here at the city who are
[30:35] partners with us as well as city manager
[30:37] Rogan and his staff
[30:39] who we've been working with quite a bit
[30:42] lately so I'll Advance this slide there
[30:45] we go okay so that's the introductory
[30:47] slide
[30:49] and
[30:52] so if I just I'm trying to press to
[30:55] advance
[31:02] um
[31:03] this is
[31:04] okay all right great so the pictures
[31:09] that you see above the three on the left
[31:11] are from San Bruno in 2021 people
[31:14] remember that on October of that year
[31:16] there was a very substantial event that
[31:19] resulted in flooding to the Bel Air
[31:20] neighborhood the picture at the right is
[31:22] from the Pacific coast side and at one
[31:26] Shoreline we are thinking about the
[31:28] whole County including what's on the bay
[31:30] side and the coast side in terms of the
[31:33] water related impacts of climate change
[31:37] oh there we go so the county had a
[31:42] long-standing flood control district but
[31:45] it only covered a small percentage of
[31:47] the actual area in the county in terms
[31:50] of generating Revenue to work on these
[31:52] issues and actually projects in those
[31:54] areas and on the Bayside it was a very
[31:57] small percentage as well in the range of
[32:00] about 10 percent and there was no
[32:01] activity on the coast side given the uh
[32:05] the substantial and in some ways unique
[32:09] vulnerability of San Mateo County to
[32:11] climate change and the water related
[32:14] impacts it was felt that this Flood
[32:16] Control District was inadequate to
[32:19] address the issue and so in in 2019
[32:24] there was State legislation
[32:26] signed by the governor Newsom and it
[32:29] established the San Mateo County flood
[32:31] and sea level rise resiliency District
[32:32] also known as one Shoreline as of
[32:35] January 1 of 2020 and and we work on the
[32:38] multiple issues associated with water
[32:40] and climate including flooding and sea
[32:43] level rise Coastal erosion as I
[32:45] mentioned Regional storm water efforts
[32:48] water retention and as part of the we we
[32:52] look at Recreation opportunities for
[32:54] recreational enhancement and
[32:55] environmental enhancement we take a
[32:58] holistic approach to to the threats
[33:01] looking at all these different threats
[33:03] and not just kind of a traditional flood
[33:04] control approach holistic of you to
[33:07] geography as supervisor Pine mentioned
[33:11] we work multi-jurisdictionally and
[33:14] throughout the county because of course
[33:16] this issue of of climate does not in any
[33:20] way respect jurisdictional boundaries
[33:22] and no City can do it alone and then we
[33:25] take a holistic view of objectives
[33:28] we think about how to incorporate not
[33:31] just governmental work but also with our
[33:34] partners in the private sector and
[33:35] community-based organization is bring
[33:37] them into the fold and a holistic view
[33:39] of the disciplines where climate is not
[33:42] just a water issue or a wildfire issue
[33:44] it's also a housing issue or a land use
[33:46] issue or a transportation issue or a
[33:48] utilities issue all of these things are
[33:51] affected now and will be affected more
[33:52] so in the future by the effects of
[33:55] climate change
[33:57] in terms of our activities this is our
[34:01] last slide on one Shoreline but it
[34:03] summarizes what we've been up to in 2020
[34:06] 2021 and 2022 setting up the new agency
[34:09] as supervisor Prime mentioned we
[34:12] completed a 10 million dollar
[34:13] construction project down along the Bay
[34:16] Side of Redwood City and Menlo Park
[34:19] we've developed new multiple
[34:21] jurisdiction jurisdictional projects
[34:23] including the one that was mentioned in
[34:25] Berlin Cayman Millbrae we've developed
[34:28] the first of its kind in the Bay Area
[34:30] zoning ordinance to address future
[34:32] climate conditions for the city of
[34:34] Burlingame and we're working with other
[34:35] cities on their various General planned
[34:38] documents specific plans and zoning
[34:42] ordinances we would be very happy to
[34:45] work with San Bruno on those types of
[34:46] documents and and we've raised funds
[34:51] we've spent about three and a half
[34:53] million dollars just under that and
[34:54] we've brought in almost 20 million
[34:56] dollars so far so I think it's a good
[34:58] return on investment to this point
[35:02] um
[35:02] if we look at the bay side and we look
[35:04] where work is being done to address the County's unique vulnerability to sea
[35:10] level rise in California there are areas
[35:13] of the county that have work that is in
[35:16] planning design or construction and
[35:18] those are the areas in green of our 53
[35:20] miles of County Shoreline there are also
[35:22] substantial areas in red that don't yet
[35:24] have those types of activities underway
[35:26] in any coordinated way and those are the
[35:29] areas in red and so we have a bay
[35:31] program at one Shoreline to align and
[35:34] connect all of the shoreline on the bay
[35:37] side of this County
[35:40] um we we work over the next 18 months
[35:42] we're going to be doing a lot of work on
[35:44] those planning documents
[35:46] um because that's I think going to be
[35:48] our Legacy is what are these communities
[35:49] look like so that we don't have to
[35:51] retrofit them in the future for things
[35:53] that we know are coming like The New
[35:55] Normal over every winter of drought and
[35:58] Atmospheric River if anybody thinks that
[36:00] this is a once in a lifetime event
[36:04] um I would submit that they're probably
[36:06] mistaken is that what we saw in 2021
[36:08] what we've seen now in 2022 is what
[36:11] we're going to see more or less in
[36:13] Winters to come and we need to be
[36:15] thinking now about that in terms of how
[36:17] and where we develop and what what that
[36:19] looks like are we are we positioning
[36:21] ourselves to be able to become resilient
[36:24] to these types of events also
[36:26] multi-jurisdictional projects it's not
[36:28] just Burlingame and Millbrae what we're
[36:30] doing on San Bruno Creek is also a
[36:32] multi-jurisdictional project as I'll
[36:33] mention and these other items
[36:36] okay so um so looking at San Bruno Creek
[36:40] as was mentioned uh there was a
[36:43] long-standing flood control district
[36:45] that had flood zones in 2020 when when
[36:48] Shoreline was established We inherited a
[36:51] decades-old flood zone uh four of them
[36:54] actually and the two that you see here
[36:55] for Coloma Creek Watershed and the San
[36:57] Bruno Creek is a flood zone the San
[37:00] Bruno Creek flood zone collects property
[37:02] taxes from residents within the city as
[37:04] well as a small sliver of the Coloma
[37:06] Creek Watershed specific to the San
[37:08] Bruno Creek flood zone it generates
[37:10] about 350 thousand dollars annually this
[37:13] year we've been very active working with
[37:15] the city and the county on on Creek
[37:17] related issues that I'll describe we'll
[37:19] be spending about eight hundred thousand
[37:21] dollars this year and at the end of this
[37:23] fiscal year we anticipate having a
[37:25] reserve of about 2.3 million dollars on
[37:29] the right now you can see coming up the
[37:33] current FEMA flood map for the city of
[37:36] San Bruno
[37:37] um and the area in that's circled in
[37:40] pink let's say is the area of San Bruno
[37:43] that's within the FEMA flood map in in
[37:45] those in that area of the city uh if if
[37:48] a property owner has a federally backed
[37:50] mortgage then they're required to
[37:51] purchase flood insurance
[37:53] um and this was a big topic of
[37:54] discussion uh in 2017 2018
[37:58] and the maps became the FEMA Maps became
[38:01] effective in 2019 there are multiple
[38:03] reasons that the Bel Air area of the
[38:07] neighborhood an area of San Bruno is
[38:09] within the FEMA flood map those are five
[38:12] reasons that are listed there that
[38:13] includes uh according to the modeled
[38:16] reasons water coming from navigable
[38:19] Slough down Shaw Road from South San
[38:21] Francisco water I'm kind of going in a
[38:23] circular way clockwise water coming up
[38:27] the creek in San Bruno Creek the
[38:29] backflow effects from a tight gate water
[38:32] just coming from San Francisco Airport
[38:34] into the city of San Bruno and South of
[38:37] the airport there's a high line Canal
[38:39] which is quite far from that area but
[38:41] according to the models water that comes
[38:43] up Highline Canal which separates
[38:45] Millbrae and SFO would make its way into
[38:48] San Bruno and then finally the Cupid's
[38:50] row Canal whether there's enough
[38:52] capacity there so we have to work on all
[38:54] five issues if we want to get people out
[38:56] of this FEMA flood map
[39:00] taking a little closer view at the Bel
[39:03] Air neighborhood it's located along
[39:06] Highway 101 and Highway 380 and about
[39:10] the first The Last Mile sorry of the
[39:12] creek as it drains into the bay and in
[39:15] that stretch it's very complex
[39:16] jurisdictionally and technically where
[39:20] you have the city of course the city of
[39:21] San Bruno jurisdiction you have also
[39:24] County unincorporated area San Francisco
[39:26] International Airport ownership of land
[39:29] Caltrans
[39:31] right-of-way underneath 380 and Highway
[39:34] 101 and then as it drains to the Bay the
[39:37] city of South San Francisco
[39:38] is is the jurisdiction of that area and
[39:42] we own the tide gate at one Shoreline
[39:45] and we also have land rights where it
[39:47] says the Walnut Pump Station
[39:50] that that section North of San Bruno
[39:53] Avenue
[39:55] um as we as we look at uh as the work
[39:59] um that there's been a lot of work uh
[40:01] over the last 10 years a lot of
[40:03] attention paid to this area here are
[40:05] seven different Studies by different
[40:07] agencies that have looked at this issue
[40:10] and our job at one Shoreline as kind of
[40:13] a regional body as I said that thinks
[40:16] holistically is to pull together these
[40:18] studies in a cogent way that makes sense
[40:21] where we have one solution one big
[40:23] solution that takes into account the the
[40:26] data that has been gathered by multiple
[40:28] agencies because this is a system in all
[40:31] aspects of the system uh relate to one
[40:33] another so that's what we're trying to
[40:35] do if we look at the work that was done
[40:38] uh the near-term work that was done to
[40:41] reduce flooding in the Bel Air
[40:42] neighborhood there was work done by by
[40:46] one Shoreline that we worked with the
[40:48] county and and City staff and the staff
[40:50] that's in supervisor Pines office to
[40:53] repair the tide guide this is the title
[40:56] of our agenda item here and these two
[40:58] pictures show a before and after of the
[41:01] tide gate the picture at the top has the flap gate a jar and uh and three of
[41:08] the four flap Gates were um were
[41:10] detached and so water would flow freely
[41:13] in from the bay and this was uh
[41:15] something that occurred or they became
[41:18] attached in the fall of 2021 and
[41:21] undoubtedly that affected the flooding
[41:23] that happened in October 2021. we fixed
[41:26] those earlier this spring I mean
[41:28] actually not the spring but the spring
[41:30] of 2022 after uh the this circumstance
[41:34] was identified and and we all discussed
[41:37] why we think that made a big difference
[41:39] in the storms of of the past 10 days or
[41:42] so another near-term activity that we've
[41:45] been working on is to repair and replace
[41:49] and provide backup electricity for the
[41:52] motors and the Walnut and Angus Pump
[41:54] Station these are immediately adjacent
[41:56] to the Bel Air neighborhood and are very
[41:59] important resources to drain the water
[42:01] that's collected on the streets of Bel
[42:03] Air and pump it into San Bruno Creek so
[42:06] that it can efficiently efficiently
[42:07] float uh make its way to the to the bay
[42:10] and then finally we're working with
[42:12] Caltrans which as I mentioned has
[42:14] right-of-way under Highway 380 and
[42:15] Highway 101 to put a valve on their
[42:19] outfall to reduce the water that backs
[42:22] up from the creek in into the outfall
[42:25] and then onto the Caltrans property
[42:27] under 380 and then on to 7th Avenue and that whole cycle or movement of
[42:32] water also exacerbates the flooding
[42:35] there so how do we how do we know that
[42:38] or think that the tide gate made a
[42:40] difference
[42:42] the work on the tight gate late
[42:45] earlier this year so the repair project
[42:48] We Believe has made a difference if you
[42:50] look at the images on the left these are
[42:53] images from dry days sunny days and it's
[42:57] from January 3rd of 2022. the video is
[43:01] driving along 7th Avenue heading towards
[43:03] the city of South San Francisco and the still images are just pictures from
[43:08] that day as well there's a lot of water
[43:10] at 7th Avenue at the PG e site and then
[43:15] of course heading under Highway 380. you
[43:17] can see all that water
[43:18] so that was in January and then at the
[43:20] end of 2022 after the tide gate project
[43:23] was done this is also during High Tides
[43:25] you see basically no water in that same
[43:28] area and
[43:30] um and so we believe it's made it quite
[43:32] a big big difference
[43:34] um now when it rains and you have these
[43:36] storms there's kind of a more much more
[43:39] complicated mix of of fresh water and
[43:41] tidal water and so that's one of the
[43:44] things that excuse me we would be
[43:46] studying uh in in the work that's
[43:48] upcoming
[43:51] so we have a set of rain gauges
[43:53] throughout the county this was mentioned
[43:55] earlier in Mr grogan's presentation we
[43:58] have a set of of gauges of rain and a
[44:01] creek height the water that's in Creeks
[44:04] during storms and we look at those
[44:06] gauges
[44:07] during these storms any time of day 24
[44:11] hours a day and depending on the
[44:14] circumstance of both the water in the
[44:16] channel and the rain that's coming
[44:18] towards the channel we send out alerts
[44:22] and the alerts go to City staff and the
[44:25] alerts now in two watersheds including
[44:28] San Bruno Creek go to the public through
[44:30] SMC alert so I would Echo the comments
[44:33] of Mr Grogan and your vice mayor about
[44:36] the importance of SMC alert especially
[44:38] if you live or work near the Bel Air
[44:41] neighborhood because that's where we've
[44:43] developed a what's called a polygon of
[44:45] the map where we will send out SMC
[44:47] alerts if it looks like San Bruno Creek
[44:50] will over top or there will be
[44:51] substantial flooding within that
[44:53] neighborhood
[44:58] it's kind of slow to come up so here are
[45:01] what's called hydrographs of of the
[45:04] creek events of October 24 2021 and
[45:07] December 31 2022.
[45:10] um essentially we watch those things and
[45:14] worry about these things no matter what
[45:15] time of day we're looking at it so that
[45:18] you don't have to and we will rock we
[45:21] watched these things and establish okay
[45:22] is there a peak flow going on and do we
[45:25] send out a message but if you compare
[45:27] those two storms in October 2021 there
[45:30] was more rain than in December of 20
[45:33] December 31 of 2022 but December 31 of
[45:37] 2022 that storm had a higher peak of
[45:40] water within the creek Channel
[45:42] and at the same time it caused less a
[45:46] little bit less flooding apparently
[45:47] based on the information that we have
[45:48] and I want to just pause there one
[45:50] second and encourage people if they have
[45:53] pictures or videos from their property
[45:56] or if they're in the neighborhood and
[45:58] they're seeing flooding feel free to
[45:59] send it to us at one Shoreline because
[46:01] as we calibrate our flood alert system
[46:05] and as we think about uh projects in the
[46:08] future it's very helpful for us to
[46:10] understand where flooding occurred and
[46:11] at what time
[46:13] as we as we kind of develop those or
[46:16] refine those products and so we we
[46:20] believe that that that flooding was
[46:22] reduced due to two things one is the
[46:24] pump stations were fully functioning in
[46:27] December of 31 of 2022 storm all the
[46:31] pumps were online there was electrical
[46:32] generator backup all the things that I
[46:34] mentioned that we have been working on
[46:35] through 2022 as well as the tide had
[46:39] less influence because the tide Gates
[46:41] were were operable fully operable
[46:45] okay last slide long-term Solutions this
[46:48] is super important so
[46:51] all of everything I just said is about
[46:54] the near-term how do we deal with the
[46:56] flooding today to the best of our
[46:57] Collective ability
[47:00] that is not going to get people out of
[47:01] the flood insurance program and it's not
[47:03] going to address these issues long term we need to look at those five
[47:06] sources of flooding and and think about
[47:09] the FEMA maps and think about sea level
[47:12] rise and how that is going to further
[47:14] influence what we were seeing in the
[47:16] slide with the video of the drive from
[47:20] the car on 7th Avenue and so for the
[47:24] long-term solution we're embarking on a
[47:27] project we will get it started in 2023
[47:29] regardless of what the federal
[47:31] government says to us about our Grant
[47:32] application we applied for nine hundred
[47:34] thousand dollars we had the support of
[47:36] San Bruno South San Francisco and others
[47:39] on that application so we're hopeful but
[47:41] regardless we will get started on the
[47:43] project and potential aspects of the
[47:45] project are a complete replacement of
[47:47] the tide gate the repair that we made
[47:49] was to a facility that was established
[47:52] or built in the 1940s it is it is now
[47:56] repaired it is working much better than
[47:58] it was 15 months ago but it's is not a
[48:00] long-term solution for this area so
[48:02] replacing the tide gate is important
[48:04] potentially building a new pump station
[48:06] at the tide gate to get water
[48:08] over the tide gate from the creek into
[48:11] the bay another another idea is to
[48:15] replace these pump stations that right
[48:17] now we're constantly trying to repair
[48:18] those pump stations were built in the
[48:21] 1960s and they are not up to the task of
[48:24] these atmospheric Rivers another project
[48:27] idea is to elevate the bay shoreline
[48:30] between San Bruno Creek and Colma Creek
[48:33] and because it's all kind of connected
[48:35] with the sea level rise issue and then
[48:37] finally to build one or more stormwater
[48:40] detention basins adjacent to the creek
[48:42] whether that's far Upstream near Highway
[48:44] 280 perhaps in the park right here at
[48:47] this right next to where we're talking
[48:49] right now or farther much farther
[48:52] Downstream as San Bruno Creek goes along
[48:55] the Bel Air neighborhood so these are
[48:57] some of the project ideas that we're
[48:59] going to get started on doing some
[49:02] planning and project alternative
[49:05] analysis with consultants in the next 12
[49:08] months
[49:10] and that concludes the presentation
[49:12] I and McKenna and supervisor Pine would
[49:15] be glad to answer questions thank you very much for that information
[49:20] I think it's extremely helpful and I
[49:22] don't know that as we've talked before
[49:24] and I appreciate your time that folks
[49:26] know those things that are occurring and
[49:28] have occurred and so thank you for that
[49:30] with that I'd like to ask my colleagues
[49:32] if there are any questions that they
[49:33] have at this time
[49:38] yep yes uh
[49:41] sorry to get used to this first welcome
[49:43] again happy New Year and may I please uh
[49:46] call upon council member Alvarez
[49:49] thank you for your um very informative
[49:51] presentation
[49:53] um just reading on your website um and
[49:56] you also mentioned that you have
[49:59] identified three solutions which are
[50:03] um replacing the pump station I know
[50:06] that we have had
[50:08] um problems whenever we have heavy rains
[50:11] like this along 7th Avenue which was
[50:15] built in the 1960s on that that bump
[50:20] station when do you anticipate to start
[50:23] the project that you identified
[50:26] yeah uh thank you for that question
[50:29] um so I guess what I would say is
[50:33] the project would start with
[50:36] understanding what those seven other
[50:38] studies said and and pulling them
[50:41] together into a cohesive plan okay and
[50:45] so the project starts with planning and
[50:47] collecting data so that we fully
[50:49] understand the interaction between the
[50:52] creek
[50:53] the storm drain system for that
[50:55] neighborhood the tides and water that's
[50:58] coming in potentially from South San
[51:01] Francisco and also from Millbrae if in
[51:03] fact it is so we need to understand what
[51:05] we're looking at and that's what we
[51:06] would start in 2023 is to get gain that
[51:10] understanding and and using those
[51:11] previous studies as as an important
[51:14] Baseline
[51:15] and then we would start a process of a
[51:19] SQL document so that we we make public
[51:22] Alternatives and get feedback from the
[51:25] public and from regulatory environmental
[51:27] Regulatory Agencies to understand okay
[51:29] what is a preferred project that we can
[51:31] actually move forward on at the same
[51:33] time we're doing a SQL document and
[51:34] doing we would do design of a preferred
[51:37] project and the SQL document and the
[51:39] design process would go hand in hand
[51:41] that would take a couple years and
[51:44] during that time we would seek outside
[51:48] funding one of the reasons one Shoreline
[51:50] was created established in 2020 as
[51:54] supervisor Pine mentioned is to be able
[51:57] to attract external funding in a way
[51:59] that maybe we otherwise couldn't because
[52:01] we're working together as cities and one
[52:03] Shoreline in the county and so during
[52:06] that process of of sequin design we try
[52:09] to attract especially Federal money and
[52:12] with all of these storms there is news
[52:15] federal faster declarations which means
[52:17] there's new money for these kinds of
[52:18] projects so so I can't give a specific
[52:21] timeline all I can say is commit to is
[52:24] that we're going to start on that
[52:25] process this year
[52:30] any other questions from colleagues I'm
[52:33] sorry I apologize
[52:35] I was looking straight ahead city
[52:37] manager sure
[52:39] thank you mayor I just want to also say
[52:41] that we've talked to one Shoreline and
[52:43] one of the commitments that we have
[52:44] together is that we'd like to hold a
[52:47] neighborhood meeting specifically on
[52:49] this issue a lot of things were
[52:51] discussed tonight and a lot of work is
[52:53] going on for a permanent fix but we know
[52:56] not everyone in that Community knows
[52:58] about that as well as
[53:01] people's property is being flooded in I
[53:04] was out there in the middle of a storm
[53:05] and I think having a meeting partic
[53:09] specifically on this topic is
[53:10] appropriate and we've talked to one
[53:12] Shoreline about that and we will be
[53:14] partnering to hold a meeting in San
[53:16] Bruno specifically with our community
[53:20] that's affected by this flooding both to
[53:21] let them know of the work that's going
[53:23] on as well as to seek their ideas and so
[53:26] know that that will happen in you and
[53:28] the community will see information about
[53:30] scheduling of that meeting as soon as we
[53:32] can get it together
[53:33] thank you for uh alerting us and and the
[53:36] community to that and of course
[53:37] um having available for uh languages as
[53:41] well uh would be thank you
[53:43] um and I think it's important to realize
[53:44] too with the flood in FEMA the city
[53:46] really also went to bat and in the
[53:49] appeal process and really worked
[53:50] diligently Jimmy Tan was here then and
[53:52] the city staff to try to mitigate and uh
[53:56] shall we say shrink the size of who is
[53:59] required was mandated to have the flood
[54:00] insurance so I do want to recall and
[54:03] remind the community and staff work
[54:04] extremely hard but as we know trying to
[54:07] deal with the federal government uh what
[54:10] we think is right and what they think
[54:12] are right might be I do not have any I
[54:14] do not have any in-person speaker cards
[54:16] but we do have one remote hand raised
[54:19] Robert Regal
[54:21] I will be bringing you in
[54:23] whenever you're ready you may begin
[54:26] I just have one one question is there
[54:28] any need in this scheduling of
[54:31] activities to dredge San Bruno Creek all
[54:35] the way from the Thai Gates back to San
[54:38] Antonio Huntington area to increase the
[54:40] capacity that the creek could hold uh
[54:44] when the there's excess water
[54:49] so would you like me to yes sir okay
[54:53] um that's a great question that we have
[54:55] we are looking at right now
[54:57] um
[54:58] the the actual channel of the creek uh
[55:03] seems to be able to hold the water
[55:05] that's in the channel from
[55:09] the the just say just Downstream the
[55:11] Cupid's row area to uh to the highway
[55:15] 380. but part of our analysis that I
[55:19] mentioned to councilwoman Alvarez what
[55:21] would be
[55:23] is that is the capacity of the channel
[55:25] sufficient we know that Upstream of
[55:28] their
[55:29] um let's see near near the ball fields
[55:32] all the way to the train tracks by
[55:34] Cupid's row we know that that stretch
[55:36] does not have sufficient capacity and
[55:39] there had been annual maintenance uh to
[55:43] remove the vegetation that obstructed
[55:45] the flow there uh previously
[55:47] we also know that in 2022 that
[55:50] maintenance was not allowed due to
[55:52] environmental concerns we're definitely
[55:54] hoping and planning that we come in
[55:56] there in 2023 and do that vegetation
[55:59] removal because it should be done
[56:02] so I guess I would in summary for for Mr
[56:05] reichel's question I would say that that
[56:08] is a very astute question one that we're
[56:10] evaluating and we're looking for
[56:12] opportunities to increase Channel
[56:15] capacity
[56:16] it's not practical to just go in there
[56:19] and dredge the whole Channel there are
[56:21] multiple landowners as I mentioned San
[56:23] Francisco Airport being one Caltrans
[56:25] being another
[56:28] um and there are endangered species in
[56:31] that stretch and Regulatory permits
[56:33] associated with that and so it's it's
[56:35] complicated but we're certainly looking
[56:38] at whether this emergency declaration by
[56:43] Mr Grogan and the county enables us to
[56:47] do some things that otherwise might be
[56:50] more difficult to do so stay tuned on
[56:52] that one I guess
[56:54] thank you any other questions
[56:58] and thank you for bringing that up and
[57:00] being very candid which is there's a lot
[57:02] of owners there's a lot of bureaucracy
[57:04] uh and trying to get everybody on the
[57:06] same page but taking opportunities that
[57:08] unfortunately have been placed before us
[57:10] appreciate you looking into that and
[57:12] coming up with some ideas
[57:14] uh with that I want to thank you very
[57:15] much for the presentation both uh both
[57:18] of you for being here and thank you very
[57:19] much for your time this evening and
[57:21] being with us and wish you a safe
[57:23] travels home thank you have a good rest
[57:25] of your evening
[57:27] now we'll move on to item six consent
[57:29] calendar all items are considered
[57:31] routine or implemented by an earlier
[57:33] Council action and may be enacted by one
[57:35] motion there will be no separate
[57:37] discussion unless requested there will
[57:39] be a single public comment period for
[57:42] all these items in this section unless
[57:45] requested by a council member for a
[57:47] separate vote with that are there any
[57:49] items under consent that a colleague
[57:52] would like to pull for a separate now
[57:55] separate vote
[57:59] uh any colleagues wish to have an item
[58:02] so it can have discussion and or
[58:04] um a question
[58:09] council member
[58:11] yes please go ahead
[58:14] thank you Mr Mayor
[58:17] which item
[58:19] line item F okay thanks for
[58:22] clarification sure all right so I have f
[58:24] is there any other items
[58:28] seen hearing none okay let's move on to
[58:31] item F adopt a resolution authorizing
[58:34] the city manager to execute an agreement
[58:35] with a true north compliance Inc and the
[58:38] amount not to exceed 285 000 and West
[58:41] Coast code Consultants Inc in an amount
[58:43] not to exceed 450 000 to perform
[58:45] off-site building permit plan review
[58:47] Services council member Alvarez
[58:51] thank you Mr Mayor
[58:53] I just want to point out the important
[58:56] that it's important to understand the
[58:58] difference between plants reviewed in
[59:00] the city hall my question is do we have
[59:04] Consultants doing on-site plan review if
[59:08] so is that agreement included in the
[59:10] proposed resolution
[59:13] assistant city manager hi
[59:16] city manager Darcy Smith
[59:18] I believe the question was about if the
[59:20] city has on-site plan review services
[59:26] by Consultants yeah so as part of this
[59:30] current fiscal year budget the city
[59:31] council did authorize that expended
[59:35] expenditure for that project or but that
[59:39] those Services as a new item
[59:43] um and the city just recently executed
[59:45] those agreements with two different
[59:46] consulting firms and anticipates
[59:48] offering those services on site in the
[59:52] coming weeks
[59:53] okay thank you by appointment only at
[59:56] City Hall and we'll be providing the
[59:58] information on our website and in an
[1:00:00] online scheduling tool too
[1:00:03] thank you last question
[1:00:06] first staff
[1:00:08] prayer staff report True North has not
[1:00:11] been involved with ongoing projects
[1:00:13] and therefore has Allied the current
[1:00:16] budget cycle and the same with the WC3
[1:00:21] for the agreement that is requested to
[1:00:23] be executed
[1:00:25] so it won't be outside the current
[1:00:28] budget budget cycle because a budget
[1:00:31] amendment was approved by the city
[1:00:33] council as part of the
[1:00:36] quarterly budget amendment which was
[1:00:39] approved on November 8th for the
[1:00:42] authorization of these two consultant
[1:00:46] agreements through separate expended
[1:00:49] term Revenue accounts that were set up
[1:00:51] as part of that budget amendment which
[1:00:52] the city council reviewed and approved
[1:00:54] back in November
[1:00:57] thank you and that's only through the
[1:00:58] end of this fiscal year so only through
[1:01:00] June 30th of this year
[1:01:02] for approval before the end of the
[1:01:04] fiscal year that just as a follow-up to
[1:01:06] that we would also do what we normally
[1:01:08] do at the end of the year is that if
[1:01:10] there are unspent funds from a contract
[1:01:12] that we intend to utilize we would
[1:01:14] encumber those funds and roll them over
[1:01:16] to the next year that way you might see
[1:01:19] the expenditure fund of some of these
[1:01:22] funds in next fiscal year but know that
[1:01:25] they will not be double budgeted we
[1:01:26] would essentially capture any unspent
[1:01:28] money and roll them forward and then
[1:01:30] that would decrease the amount that we
[1:01:32] request in next year's budget
[1:01:36] some of these questions but since the topic is on I was wondering is it
[1:01:39] typical for us to
[1:01:42] um
[1:01:42] call out in a contract which funding
[1:01:46] source we're using to to pay for it it
[1:01:48] seemed uh like an unusually because of
[1:01:51] the fact that we said we were pulling
[1:01:53] from a certain fund it could put
[1:01:55] contracts in Jeopardy so I'm wondering
[1:01:57] is that typical I mean we never see the
[1:01:59] contract so I I wouldn't know what's
[1:02:01] included in them or not but it seemed
[1:02:03] unusual to me that that piece of
[1:02:05] information was part of the country is
[1:02:07] really a result of the prior
[1:02:09] conversations that we had with the city
[1:02:10] council if you remember what we were
[1:02:13] doing before is we were we would do our
[1:02:16] normal procurement process where we
[1:02:18] would get requests for that contract
[1:02:20] what we wanted to do was change that
[1:02:22] process and and depending on the nature
[1:02:26] of the service the funding source is
[1:02:28] different for example uh not the
[1:02:30] contracts we're talking about have a
[1:02:32] developer that is
[1:02:35] um into that one reimbursement agreement
[1:02:37] and so they're not getting that
[1:02:38] expedited service but they're getting
[1:02:40] that normal service however
[1:02:42] in our normal capacity we don't be paid
[1:02:45] for by those normal planning fees that
[1:02:48] you established each year in that RNR
[1:02:50] fee schedule and so in order so we can
[1:02:53] actually where you have a developer
[1:02:54] coming in and saying we will pay for
[1:02:56] expedited service we know that that will
[1:02:58] cost more and more structure uh what
[1:03:00] vendors we're providing what service and
[1:03:02] which bucket they were a funding source
[1:03:04] identified in them or is it just because
[1:03:07] we're talking about uh the reimbursable
[1:03:11] or or a an account or an account that
[1:03:14] does have reimbursable portion right
[1:03:17] so exactly where we're funding it from
[1:03:20] but we were very clear in the materials
[1:03:22] that we provided to council where the
[1:03:24] funding source would come from but
[1:03:27] um again for all for our development
[1:03:28] related kind items whether that's the
[1:03:30] reimbursement account or whether
[1:03:32] um they are paying our normal fees okay
[1:03:35] so these are they're special
[1:03:38] okay
[1:03:39] are going to be shared with the public
[1:03:41] for minutes
[1:03:44] just want to make sure that was
[1:03:46] happening because it's not on the agenda
[1:03:48] and I did submit some questions they
[1:03:50] were answered clarifications either our
[1:03:52] practice is and has been for wealth that
[1:03:55] people can go to the website and see
[1:03:56] those questions that uh that we do
[1:03:58] submit so uh some of us are just so
[1:04:01] everybody knows so we're reading the
[1:04:03] packet we've been asked to questions
[1:04:04] staff uh does their due diligence to get
[1:04:07] back to us prior to tonight's meeting
[1:04:08] but they're also posted for people to to
[1:04:11] review as well I did skim through the responses that were provided and I
[1:04:16] had one one follow-up question so that
[1:04:18] there were two million dollar contracts
[1:04:21] that were referenced in the stats of
[1:04:23] those funds become no longer encumbered
[1:04:25] and they're available for the rest of
[1:04:27] yes that's correct okay thank you thank
[1:04:30] you to comment on any of the consent
[1:04:33] items a through G
[1:04:35] I do not have any speaker cards and no
[1:04:38] remote hands are raised thank you then
[1:04:40] I'll bring it back to the council all
[1:04:42] votes so any action by Council on
[1:04:44] consent through the chair yes I will
[1:04:47] make a motion to approve the consent
[1:04:49] calendar
[1:04:50] a second
[1:04:51] or a second
[1:04:53] uh motion by salary second by Alvarez
[1:04:57] roll call please
[1:04:58] councilmember Alvarez
[1:05:01] yes yes
[1:05:04] motion passes 5-0 with that thank you
[1:05:07] everyone we'll move on to item seven
[1:05:09] which is uh public hearing
[1:05:11] item 7A appeal of the Planning
[1:05:14] Commission decision to approve an
[1:05:16] Architectural Review permit and a use
[1:05:18] permit to allow a residential addition
[1:05:20] to 1261 Claremont Drive
[1:05:23] and first before we turn it over to the
[1:05:25] director I'd like to ask the city
[1:05:27] manager if you could please sure thank
[1:05:29] you mayor Javon Grogan city manager
[1:05:31] again it is my pleasure to introduce a
[1:05:34] new gentleman to our community community
[1:05:36] that will provide this presentation a
[1:05:39] gentleman by the name of Peter Gilly he
[1:05:41] is our new community and economic
[1:05:42] development director this is this is his
[1:05:46] very first council meeting he started
[1:05:48] with the city on January 3rd but he
[1:05:52] spent almost his entire day in our
[1:05:54] Emergency Operations Center and did
[1:05:56] stuff other than planning and
[1:05:58] development for the first few days so it
[1:05:59] was a wonderful trial by fire Mr Gilly
[1:06:03] comes to us having been the community
[1:06:05] development director in the city of
[1:06:07] Ventura having also worked in Thousand
[1:06:09] Oaks but also know that he has
[1:06:11] significant Bay Area experience having
[1:06:14] worked prior in the city of Mountain
[1:06:15] View as well as Cupertino and so without
[1:06:18] further Ado
[1:06:20] um Mr Gilly has in short amount of time
[1:06:24] worked with staff and came up to speed
[1:06:26] enough that he wanted to do tonight's
[1:06:28] presentation and so we will turn it over
[1:06:30] to Peter Gilly Mr Gilley I apologize
[1:06:34] um for folks in the audience if you wish
[1:06:36] to speak on this topic and there will be
[1:06:37] public comment the speaker cards that
[1:06:39] you have if you bring them up over here
[1:06:41] uh to where the city clerk is that would
[1:06:43] be appreciated and with that I'm sorry
[1:06:45] uh Mr Kelly please proceed yes thank you
[1:06:48] very much Mr Mayor members of the
[1:06:50] council as was stated I'm Peter Gilly
[1:06:52] I'm the new director of of of the
[1:06:55] community and economic development
[1:06:56] department very happy to be here and
[1:06:58] with me is Michael Laughlin the planning
[1:07:02] and housing manager who is going to be
[1:07:04] my backup on some technical questions
[1:07:07] that you if you end up having them
[1:07:10] the agenda item tonight is a public
[1:07:13] hearing of an appeal of a Planning
[1:07:14] Commission decision to approve a
[1:07:16] residential Edition at 1261 Claremont
[1:07:21] Drive
[1:07:22] this is how this agenda item will be
[1:07:26] organized we'll have the staff
[1:07:28] presentation and and then the council
[1:07:31] can ask questions of Staff will have the
[1:07:33] appellant and then the applicant both
[1:07:36] have time for presentations there will
[1:07:38] be a public comment period and then the
[1:07:41] council will have the chance to ask
[1:07:43] uh additional questions and then uh go
[1:07:46] into to to the deliberations
[1:07:49] uh the council action uh may include a
[1:07:53] variety of options
[1:07:55] um many of which are listed in the staff
[1:07:56] report uh you could approve the project
[1:07:58] uh effectively turning down the appeal
[1:08:02] you can you can deny the project
[1:08:04] effectively granting the appeal you can
[1:08:06] also continue the item uh uh and request
[1:08:10] additional information or you can
[1:08:12] provide Direction on modifications you
[1:08:14] want to see and you can refer that back
[1:08:17] to the Planning Commission
[1:08:19] so there's a variety of options for the
[1:08:21] council
[1:08:22] the objective of this agenda item this
[1:08:26] hearing is to hold the public hearing
[1:08:29] and receive information on the item so
[1:08:32] that you can make a final decision on
[1:08:34] the appeal of the planning commission's
[1:08:35] approval
[1:08:39] so I will go through some highlights of
[1:08:41] the background there is a lot more
[1:08:43] information in the staff report and and
[1:08:45] the packet if you have any questions on
[1:08:47] anything that I don't go over please do ask them
[1:08:51] the applicant is the property owner of of the subject site they are
[1:08:57] proposing a one in two story addition to
[1:08:59] an existing home uh that is shown on the
[1:09:02] slide
[1:09:03] uh the location of the site is the
[1:09:06] corner of of
[1:09:08] Claremont and and and and Fairmont uh
[1:09:12] and on the aerial photo uh showing the
[1:09:14] applicant site outlined in Orange uh the
[1:09:18] appellant is the immediate neighbor uh
[1:09:21] and they that that property is outlined
[1:09:24] in blue
[1:09:26] and the scope of the project the scope
[1:09:29] of the addition to the home uh it
[1:09:31] triggers both an Architectural Review
[1:09:33] permit and a use permit uh which is why
[1:09:35] it it went to the architectural view
[1:09:37] committee or Arc and it went to the
[1:09:39] Planning Commission
[1:09:44] this slide shows the uh public hearings
[1:09:47] that the project went to prior to even
[1:09:49] going to public hearings the application
[1:09:51] came in in August of 2021
[1:09:54] went through a round of Staff review and
[1:09:57] staff pointed out a number of of of of
[1:10:00] conflicts with the design guidelines the
[1:10:03] applicant then updated the plan that
[1:10:06] update went to the arc on on
[1:10:09] November 4th of 2021
[1:10:12] Arc recommended more modifications to
[1:10:16] the project it came back in January of
[1:10:18] 2022 at that point it was sent on to the
[1:10:21] Planning Commission who saw in February
[1:10:23] of 2022 where uh there was a public
[1:10:27] hearing uh there was a lot of discussion
[1:10:29] and the Planning Commission asked that
[1:10:31] or they continued the item and asked the
[1:10:34] applicant to provide shade studies which
[1:10:37] are basically diagrams that show how the
[1:10:40] project is going to cast Shadows
[1:10:42] particularly on the neighboring property
[1:10:45] the project then came back to the
[1:10:47] Planning Commission with those shade
[1:10:48] studies in March of 2022
[1:10:51] at that time the neighbor who is now the appellant also provided some
[1:10:59] concepts for how the design should be
[1:11:01] changed the Planning Commission took all
[1:11:04] that information and recommended that
[1:11:06] the applicant do another redesign of the
[1:11:09] project to try to incorporate as many of the ideas that were discussed
[1:11:14] and I have slides coming up that are
[1:11:17] going to show how the project has
[1:11:19] evolved
[1:11:20] the applicant then updated the plans
[1:11:23] again uh came back to the Arc in October
[1:11:26] and then back to the Planning Commission
[1:11:28] in November uh at the end of November
[1:11:32] the Planning Commission
[1:11:34] looked at the redesign uh and did end up
[1:11:36] voting 5-1 to approve the project
[1:11:41] at that point uh the neighbor filed a
[1:11:44] timely appeal
[1:11:46] and that appeals at the Planning
[1:11:49] Commission are brought to the city
[1:11:50] council and in their appeal documents
[1:11:53] the Appellate
[1:11:54] listed a number of concerns which we
[1:11:56] tried to provide a a snapshot of on the
[1:11:59] screen and in the staff report
[1:12:01] uh
[1:12:03] the the applicant has made uh clear at
[1:12:06] the Planning Commission level and in the uh appeal that uh they believe
[1:12:12] there are opportunities to design a
[1:12:14] house in a different way uh that will
[1:12:17] reduce impacts on on their property and
[1:12:20] uh the appellant has a presentation and
[1:12:23] we'll go through those arguments
[1:12:28] now go over uh some more details about
[1:12:31] the project and how we got to this point
[1:12:33] uh we'll have some uh plans and images
[1:12:36] that I can come back to at any time if
[1:12:38] the council has has questions on them
[1:12:41] this is uh just a street view of of of the home and Andy uh
[1:12:48] appellants home as well uh you want to
[1:12:51] come back to this just to uh have have
[1:12:54] this image up
[1:12:56] this is that same snapshot of the
[1:12:58] existing home but also uh uh the view of
[1:13:03] the Planning Commission approved uh new
[1:13:06] home so the existing home is a little
[1:13:09] under 1900 square feet it has an far of
[1:13:12] 0.32 and far is the floor area ratio
[1:13:16] that is the sum of all of the areas of
[1:13:19] all the floors including the garage
[1:13:21] divided by the lot area
[1:13:23] uh the maximum allowed far for this
[1:13:26] particular site based on our zoning is
[1:13:28] 0.55
[1:13:31] the Planning Commission approved project
[1:13:34] is a little over 3000 square feet of of
[1:13:37] home again that's including the garage
[1:13:39] and a 0.53 far so slightly under the
[1:13:43] maximum that's allowed
[1:13:47] this is a site plan so this is a bird's
[1:13:50] eye view of the site again using the
[1:13:53] same color coding on the applicant's
[1:13:55] property in in
[1:13:57] for easier reference the lighter orange
[1:14:00] shading is the outline of the first
[1:14:03] floor which is predominantly the
[1:14:06] existing home
[1:14:07] the darker orange is shows the second
[1:14:10] floor which is is all new
[1:14:16] these are the building elevations of the
[1:14:18] proposed home these elevations are
[1:14:20] two-dimensional views of the front the
[1:14:22] rear and the two sides again we're
[1:14:24] showing this so that we can come back to
[1:14:26] it if the council wants to discuss them
[1:14:28] we're going to be talking most about the
[1:14:30] north side that is the side that faces
[1:14:33] the
[1:14:34] appellance property that elevation is in
[1:14:39] the bottom right hand corner
[1:14:43] the applicant also provided renderings
[1:14:46] of of the pro of of the project which
[1:14:48] are three-dimensional views uh of of
[1:14:51] what the project would look like I just
[1:14:53] want to note it is very common in uh in
[1:14:56] renderings that because it's a model out
[1:14:59] of a computer that they don't show the
[1:15:01] neighboring buildings it was not done on
[1:15:04] purpose that's just is the common
[1:15:06] approach
[1:15:12] so the project actually complies with
[1:15:14] all the city's regulations
[1:15:16] but because the project triggered
[1:15:19] needing to go through special review it
[1:15:21] also needs to be found to meet our
[1:15:23] residential design guidelines
[1:15:25] now the guidelines are as they are
[1:15:28] called they are guidelines they are not
[1:15:30] requirements that all need to be met but
[1:15:32] they are a very useful guide for staff
[1:15:35] applicants and the Planning Commission
[1:15:36] in order to judge whether a residential
[1:15:40] Edition should be approved
[1:15:42] just for context the the guidelines were
[1:15:45] adopted by Council in 2010
[1:15:47] and there's there's over 150
[1:15:51] different
[1:15:52] guidelines in the document so there are
[1:15:55] a lot of them uh they're split up into
[1:15:57] 13 sections I put a handful of the most
[1:16:00] relevant ones uh on the screen
[1:16:02] neighborhood compatibility architectural
[1:16:04] style second floor treatment
[1:16:07] the the one that is the largest issue in
[1:16:09] this case is privacy and solar access
[1:16:11] and that is the one that the appellant
[1:16:14] is is Raising and giving the most
[1:16:17] attention to and two of them in
[1:16:20] particular which the appellant has in in
[1:16:22] their package is uh on the screen and
[1:16:25] that is uh the the guideline calls for
[1:16:28] the project to minimize Shadow and
[1:16:30] privacy impacts on adjacent properties
[1:16:37] so through these six public hearings
[1:16:40] leading to this appeal the arc and
[1:16:42] Planning Commission reviewed the project
[1:16:44] for compliance with all of the design
[1:16:46] guidelines and spent arguably most of
[1:16:49] the time talking about topics that
[1:16:51] related to shade and privacy
[1:16:55] the Planning Commission and Arc asked
[1:16:57] for a number of changes and the
[1:16:59] predominantly the the major ones are
[1:17:01] listed on the screen they're also in the
[1:17:03] written staff report and they all go
[1:17:05] towards addressing the mass of the
[1:17:07] second floor and that size and volume of
[1:17:10] the second floor is directly related to
[1:17:13] The Shadow impacts that the project will
[1:17:15] have as well as privacy impacts
[1:17:18] I have slides with imagery that shows
[1:17:20] how each uh what each one of these look
[1:17:22] like
[1:17:24] but in general the the applicant has
[1:17:27] moved the Second Story further away from
[1:17:30] uh from the property line with the
[1:17:34] appellant that's item number one they've
[1:17:37] reduced the length of the second story
[1:17:39] that faces the uh
[1:17:43] property line of the of the appellant
[1:17:45] and they've reduced that total height of
[1:17:47] the building itself as well to address
[1:17:51] privacy they've also taken out the
[1:17:52] Second Story deck and they've modified
[1:17:54] the windows that are facing the appellant's property
[1:18:00] so I'll go through and try to show what
[1:18:03] those changes look like and mean on the
[1:18:06] proposed front elevation so this is
[1:18:09] viewing it from the street you'll see
[1:18:11] there's uh
[1:18:13] on the left is the design that the
[1:18:16] Planning Commission saw in March this is
[1:18:18] the the project designed that the
[1:18:22] Planning Commission asked to be
[1:18:23] redesigned and changed the one on the
[1:18:26] right is what came back to the Planning
[1:18:28] Commission and was eventually approved
[1:18:31] uh
[1:18:32] you'll see on both of them there's an
[1:18:34] orange line that is dashed that is our
[1:18:37] daylight plane which is a guideline
[1:18:40] and it basically calls for if you're
[1:18:43] going to have a taller building
[1:18:46] basically the setback for the taller
[1:18:48] part of the building needs to be further
[1:18:50] away originally the March 2020 2022
[1:18:54] design had the first and second floor
[1:18:56] basically going straight up so that had
[1:18:59] the massing of the second floor very
[1:19:02] close to the neighbor thus having more
[1:19:04] Shadow impact the revised plan pushes
[1:19:07] the Second Story back the the first
[1:19:09] story is still where it is because it's
[1:19:10] existing house but the second story
[1:19:13] starts about an additional
[1:19:16] four feet in and that meets our daylight
[1:19:19] plane guideline again the applicant made
[1:19:22] that change at the direction of the
[1:19:24] Planning Commission
[1:19:26] as I noted earlier there's about a two
[1:19:29] foot reduction in the overall height of the house the applicant has made the
[1:19:35] plate Heights of the second floor the
[1:19:37] plate Heights being the ceiling height
[1:19:38] uh
[1:19:40] pretty much as low as you can
[1:19:44] it does it is at I believe seven foot
[1:19:48] nine inches which for a a new house is
[1:19:52] relatively low at the corners of the of
[1:19:55] the room so from the front elevation
[1:19:57] those are changes that were made
[1:19:59] then for the site elevation
[1:20:03] the again on the left that's the that's
[1:20:06] the project that went to Planning
[1:20:07] Commission in March on the right is the
[1:20:10] redesign uh clearly the length of that
[1:20:15] second story in March was was uh
[1:20:19] was cut down approximately shown again
[1:20:22] in the in the orange Dash lines was the
[1:20:25] mass and the length of the Second Story
[1:20:27] back in March it it it was cut back so
[1:20:32] that again is going to uh reduce the
[1:20:35] shadow impacts on the neighbor
[1:20:37] talked already about about the reduced
[1:20:39] height you can see it on on this angle
[1:20:41] as well and then two other things to
[1:20:43] address privacy impacts the the plan
[1:20:46] used to have a second story deck that on
[1:20:48] the rear that's taken out and all of the
[1:20:51] windows now on this side are uh our
[1:20:54] clear story Windows which are windows
[1:20:56] whose plate height or bottom of the
[1:20:58] window is about
[1:21:00] five feet eight inches the idea is it
[1:21:03] still gives light into the room it could
[1:21:05] give air circulation but if you're just
[1:21:08] standing in the room you're not really
[1:21:09] going to have a view into your
[1:21:11] neighbor's yard again these were things
[1:21:14] asked of the applicant by the Planning
[1:21:16] Commission to reduce the impacts on on
[1:21:19] the appellant's property
[1:21:22] so
[1:21:23] after seeing all of these uh all of
[1:21:27] these changes
[1:21:29] through the hearings the Planning
[1:21:31] Commission ended up approving the
[1:21:32] project on a 5-1 vote and the Planning
[1:21:36] Commission on these type of projects are
[1:21:37] required to make findings of approval
[1:21:40] and there are some excerpts of some of
[1:21:42] those findings uh on on on the slide
[1:21:45] they're all in in the attached
[1:21:47] resolutions and also referencing the
[1:21:49] staff report but notably the Planning
[1:21:52] Commission in their judgment found that
[1:21:55] the project as redesigned will not
[1:21:57] unreasonably
[1:21:59] restrict or interfere with light and air
[1:22:01] on on the property or on other property
[1:22:04] in the neighborhood
[1:22:05] that was the planning commission's way
[1:22:07] of saying
[1:22:08] we do hear that the appellant has
[1:22:11] problems and would like more changes but
[1:22:14] we do recognize the applicant has made
[1:22:16] changes and the Planning Commission
[1:22:18] viewed that uh the impacts left on the
[1:22:23] appellant were not unreasonable
[1:22:28] that was their their findings and it's
[1:22:31] important to note uh that doesn't mean
[1:22:33] the Planning Commission made a
[1:22:35] conclusion that there are no impacts uh
[1:22:38] it's pretty much accepted and
[1:22:39] acknowledged that if you're going to
[1:22:40] have a two-story home next to a
[1:22:42] one-story home there are going to be
[1:22:44] some shading impacts the Planning
[1:22:46] Commission made the finding that uh
[1:22:48] because the guidelines were met and
[1:22:50] design changes have been made that there
[1:22:53] won't be unreasonable impacts
[1:22:56] uh the app the appellant uh will make
[1:22:59] the case for why the planning
[1:23:01] commissions uh conclusion was not right
[1:23:04] and why more changes should be made
[1:23:09] this slide is a necessary slide for all
[1:23:14] land use entitlements under the
[1:23:16] California Environmental Quality act
[1:23:18] every action made at a hearing needs to
[1:23:22] have a secret determination this project
[1:23:26] uh whether you're proven in this form
[1:23:28] whether you approve it with
[1:23:29] modifications or even if if you don't if
[1:23:33] you if you turn the project down it is
[1:23:35] exempt from SQL review which which the
[1:23:38] Planning Commission agreed with
[1:23:42] so moving into the conclusion uh the
[1:23:46] recommendation for tonight is that this
[1:23:48] is at the council hold the public
[1:23:50] hearing and adopt the resolution
[1:23:52] approving the permits that the applicant
[1:23:55] has asked for uh this is effectively
[1:23:57] turning down the appeal and uh this does
[1:24:01] align with the planning commission's
[1:24:02] action
[1:24:04] as noted previously uh there's the
[1:24:07] agenda for this this item and as I noted
[1:24:10] at the beginning the actions available
[1:24:12] to council go beyond what is recommended
[1:24:15] you are able to turn down the project uh
[1:24:18] require more information and and have
[1:24:21] the project come back to council or direct more
[1:24:25] changes happen uh with the option of
[1:24:26] sending it back to Planning Commission
[1:24:28] for a final action
[1:24:30] so with that that's that concludes
[1:24:32] staff's presentation and we're available
[1:24:33] to answer any questions
[1:24:37] thank you very much and at this time are
[1:24:39] there any Council questions on the
[1:24:41] staff's presentations specifically to
[1:24:43] the staff's presentation
[1:24:47] vice mayor is there any
[1:24:51] thank you just wanted to make sure with
[1:24:53] that what we are going to do is ask the
[1:24:56] uh appellant to please step forward for
[1:24:59] the presentation
[1:25:01] we'll have 10 this is the time to
[1:25:03] utilize up to 10 minutes
[1:25:06] um or not but this will be the one time
[1:25:30] so as the opponent steps forward again
[1:25:32] uh have a minute to utilize it as you
[1:25:34] wish but this will be the one time for
[1:25:36] your opportunity and uh welcome this
[1:25:38] evening and you let us know when you're
[1:25:40] ready the city clerk will set the timer
[1:25:42] and it will be obviously you can see it
[1:25:44] so I won't stop or interrupt you or give
[1:25:46] you a uh what do you want to call it a
[1:25:48] one minute unless you wish
[1:25:59] thank you council members and staff for
[1:26:05] hearing this appeal my name is Tyson
[1:26:07] Murphy I'm the
[1:26:09] homeowner at 1251 Claremont next door to
[1:26:12] the post site
[1:26:15] um
[1:26:17] is there a
[1:26:19] okay
[1:26:26] I can't read it oh my gosh
[1:26:28] okay let's jump right into it reasons
[1:26:30] for the appeal the current design
[1:26:33] unreasonably restricts Sun access and
[1:26:35] privacy to our yard at 12 I disagree
[1:26:38] with interpretation from staff
[1:26:41] the original design in March 2022 was
[1:26:44] rejected due to excessive shading and it
[1:26:48] did not uh
[1:26:50] existing design did not result in the
[1:26:52] shade and impact yet it was approved by
[1:26:55] the
[1:26:56] Planning Commission
[1:26:58] anyway really I'm seeking an alternative
[1:27:01] solution
[1:27:03] um
[1:27:04] to this problem that's beneficial to
[1:27:06] both parties
[1:27:08] currently I feel that we at 1251
[1:27:10] Claremont are incurring the brunt of the
[1:27:12] sacrifice here you have the
[1:27:18] you know on the left the snapshot of the
[1:27:23] design and then the right
[1:27:27] in relation to our yard above it and
[1:27:29] then the aerial photo
[1:27:32] um
[1:27:33] our backyard is really more of a side
[1:27:35] yard we don't have much proper room in
[1:27:37] the rear of the property it's to the
[1:27:39] side and it butts up to the shared
[1:27:41] property line with the proposed project
[1:27:43] our living room flows into the outdoor
[1:27:47] living space through large windows and
[1:27:49] that's where we can take sunlight for
[1:27:51] daylighting and warmth that was designed
[1:27:53] this way and the major issue that
[1:27:56] threatens that is the Second Story
[1:27:57] addition on the North wing
[1:28:00] one closest to our house
[1:28:03] that's significantly and unreasonably
[1:28:04] Shades our yard and Outdoor Living Space
[1:28:09] additionally privacy concerns
[1:28:13] those windows they are able to see into
[1:28:16] our yard because they are windows so we
[1:28:19] spent a lot of time in our yard our
[1:28:21] nine-year-old daughter plays in our yard
[1:28:22] I have a significant concern with the
[1:28:25] Privacy that's uh that we have to deal
[1:28:28] with here
[1:28:33] so this is an image of our side yard
[1:28:36] side backyard taken from the rear of the
[1:28:38] property
[1:28:39] that shows
[1:28:41] all of our outdoor living space in
[1:28:44] relation to the project site there it's uh
[1:28:49] very very close proximity of their house
[1:28:52] on the right
[1:28:54] and The Morning Sun that filters into
[1:28:56] our yard and into our home
[1:28:59] as design will essentially be snuffed
[1:29:02] out by that very close uh
[1:29:05] Second Story on the North wing
[1:29:11] um some interior photos to demonstrate
[1:29:13] how that sunlight coming in the backyard
[1:29:16] Daylights into the home
[1:29:18] provides you know that daylighting and
[1:29:20] the warmth and this is really a
[1:29:24] you a critical functional element of the
[1:29:26] design of the home
[1:29:29] and the enjoyment of the home
[1:29:33] there's a living room on the left dining
[1:29:35] room on the right and shared large
[1:29:37] windows to the outdoor living space
[1:29:44] I want to get back to the proximity of
[1:29:46] the lease home next to us how close it
[1:29:49] really is you can see in the middle
[1:29:52] photo there's the shared property line
[1:29:53] fence and it's only a four foot side
[1:29:56] setback
[1:29:57] and you can see the one on the right I
[1:30:00] mean there's our yard and their house
[1:30:01] even as a one story
[1:30:03] is already right on top of our yard and
[1:30:06] if you're gonna build up from there
[1:30:08] that's where the significant impacts
[1:30:10] occur
[1:30:17] okay this was showed in the staff
[1:30:19] presentation but the
[1:30:21] March 2022
[1:30:23] design on the left with no daylight
[1:30:26] playing
[1:30:27] was that was rejected due to excessive
[1:30:29] shading and in the new design on the
[1:30:32] right so the biggest issue with the
[1:30:35] shading is the top portion the the roof
[1:30:39] pitch you can see it's 17 feet three
[1:30:42] inches from the property line on the the
[1:30:45] original design on the left and then
[1:30:47] that was moved over only two feet to
[1:30:49] 19-4 by the daylight plane
[1:30:52] so
[1:30:54] that shadow
[1:30:56] you know only moved over two feet it
[1:30:59] doesn't make a big impact
[1:31:07] additionally their house sits on a
[1:31:13] higher elevation than our house the
[1:31:15] street is an upward slope going from our
[1:31:17] house to their house and that even the
[1:31:20] Shadows cast are even longer in length
[1:31:22] than normal
[1:31:27] so this is just to show that uh to make
[1:31:31] the comparison between the two designs
[1:31:37] and then this is
[1:31:39] on the right
[1:31:41] these are Shadow diagrams
[1:31:44] from the um
[1:31:45] from the architect showing that you know
[1:31:49] the left top left is the original design
[1:31:51] and the top right is you can see the
[1:31:55] second floor pitch shadow goes down and
[1:31:59] it's 44 feet six inches the original
[1:32:01] design that was rejected for excessive
[1:32:03] shading casts a shadow in the winter at
[1:32:06] 12 p.m 44 feet 6 inches the updated
[1:32:09] design
[1:32:11] at 12 p.m winner cast a shadow length of
[1:32:14] 43 feet 2 inches
[1:32:17] it's only a 16 inch difference three
[1:32:19] percent
[1:32:21] they were directed to minimize the
[1:32:23] shadow impacts and the daylight plane
[1:32:26] implementation this proves did not
[1:32:28] accomplish that
[1:32:30] but somehow the Planning Commission
[1:32:32] approved it anyway
[1:32:34] 16 inches on a 44 foot Shadow that's a three percent difference that
[1:32:39] is negligible that is
[1:32:42] you know almost nothing
[1:32:48] and then as they were directed to
[1:32:51] minimize the shadow impacts per the
[1:32:53] language of the design guidelines
[1:32:56] 3.13.1 minimize Shadow impacts on
[1:32:59] adjacent properties designed second
[1:33:01] floor volumes to minimize
[1:33:03] Sun access to Living Spaces and actively
[1:33:05] used outdoor areas on adjacent homes
[1:33:10] so they did not minimize the shadow
[1:33:13] impacts with the daylight plane
[1:33:14] impotation is my point here
[1:33:18] um also going back to the privacy
[1:33:20] concerns that conflicts with the other
[1:33:21] daylight plane minimize privacy
[1:33:24] intrusion on adjacent residences so I
[1:33:26] don't think they've accomplished either
[1:33:27] of these
[1:33:31] and then
[1:33:33] I want to say there was a the staff made
[1:33:36] a reference to a sketch that we provided
[1:33:40] from the
[1:33:42] original design
[1:33:45] that they say that they've made they've
[1:33:47] basically followed with their new design
[1:33:49] that was before
[1:33:52] we saw the daylight plane of the design
[1:33:55] with it or we saw the shadow study with
[1:33:59] the design of the daylight plane
[1:34:00] implementation before we knew the
[1:34:02] daylight plane implementation did not
[1:34:05] reduce the shading so
[1:34:07] once I saw that everything changed
[1:34:17] so
[1:34:25] I have demonstrated to you that you know
[1:34:29] the daylight plane implementation did
[1:34:30] not minimize the shadow
[1:34:32] uh impacts to our property
[1:34:35] um at no point during the architecture
[1:34:38] review or the Planning Commission
[1:34:39] meetings did the project architect
[1:34:41] demonstrate that
[1:34:44] this new design did not demonstrate did
[1:34:47] not quantify that it actually
[1:34:50] did improve the shading impact I
[1:34:53] compared the old design and the new
[1:34:54] design he has never done that he has
[1:34:57] never proved to anyone the Planning
[1:35:00] Commission
[1:35:01] that there is an actual Improvement in
[1:35:04] the shading impact in this design
[1:35:06] compared to the old design that he
[1:35:08] actually minimized the shadow impact
[1:35:11] I've never seen that and at the last
[1:35:14] Planning Commission call I asked him to
[1:35:16] do that
[1:35:17] he didn't do it the planning
[1:35:19] Commissioners didn't ask him to do that
[1:35:21] in fact they didn't ask him a single
[1:35:23] direct question which I couldn't believe
[1:35:25] based on the new information
[1:35:29] so
[1:35:33] one major concern that I have is that
[1:35:36] every set of architectural plans
[1:35:38] throughout this whole process
[1:35:40] has had
[1:35:42] inaccuracies and flaws in them from the
[1:35:44] very beginning
[1:35:46] and
[1:35:48] I was told by staff that they do not
[1:35:51] have an independent process of
[1:35:52] verification for the validity and
[1:35:55] accuracy of the information provided to
[1:35:57] them by the architect
[1:35:59] there is no verification and they are
[1:36:01] basing their analysis
[1:36:03] on this information from the architect
[1:36:05] and then submitting the recommendations
[1:36:07] accordingly to the Planning Commission
[1:36:10] this is a huge issue
[1:36:18] in March for the March 2022
[1:36:20] Planning Commission meeting
[1:36:23] I brought to the attention of the
[1:36:25] planning department staff multiple
[1:36:27] errors and flaws in that set of plans I
[1:36:30] hired two independent Architects to
[1:36:32] review the plans uh
[1:36:35] examples include measurement between the
[1:36:38] houses were inaccurate that's important
[1:36:41] to the shadow study and the evaluation
[1:36:44] the orientation of the Shadow sir I so
[1:36:47] much apologize it has been 10 minutes
[1:36:48] I'm going to give you 30 seconds which
[1:36:50] I'll do as well to the other side
[1:36:53] um but if you could okay
[1:36:56] presentation back up
[1:37:00] okay
[1:37:02] so the solution that I want to propose
[1:37:04] that would be a shared sacrifice is you
[1:37:07] can see in blue there that you can find
[1:37:10] the Second Story addition to the
[1:37:12] southeast wing it is
[1:37:15] perpendicular to the path of the sun
[1:37:17] where the north Wing is parallel that's
[1:37:18] why it blocks so much sun the
[1:37:20] perpendicular will have less impact on
[1:37:22] us and we don't expect zero impact we
[1:37:25] just don't agree with you know there's
[1:37:28] too much impact now he has room on three
[1:37:31] sides of the house there to expand the
[1:37:33] first story
[1:37:34] he can get uh all they can get
[1:37:39] maintain the desired square footage they
[1:37:41] can reduce the visual impact for the
[1:37:43] neighborhood by reducing the the amount
[1:37:46] of a second story mass and mitigate the
[1:37:48] shadow impact and privacy concerns for
[1:37:50] us at 1251 Clara thank you very much I
[1:37:53] appreciate that thank you for your time
[1:37:55] and and your information that you
[1:37:57] provided to us with that I'm going to
[1:38:00] move to the uh
[1:38:02] applicant presentation step forward
[1:38:22] just so we you'll have the laptop that
[1:38:25] you can reference or set it on your
[1:38:27] clock but you will have 10 minutes but
[1:38:28] obviously to be fair
[1:38:30] um you'll have 10 minutes and 30 seconds
[1:38:32] but my room but I want to be fair and
[1:38:35] Equitable to everybody yeah that'd be
[1:38:37] great thank you
[1:38:41] yeah and and you tell me if you wish a
[1:38:45] minute warning or if you if if you don't
[1:38:47] yeah actually
[1:38:49] um give me uh once it gets to about six
[1:38:52] minutes give me a warning uh the
[1:38:54] homeowners would like to speak a little
[1:38:55] bit too so you want to add a six minute
[1:38:57] you want to know yeah I'm gonna keep
[1:38:59] doing this again because it'll be within
[1:39:02] the 10 minutes so even though you're
[1:39:04] pausing and the person's coming there's
[1:39:06] some walking time you to understand that
[1:39:09] you might want to bring them up closer
[1:39:12] okay so that you don't want to waste
[1:39:14] time on somebody walking up because I'm
[1:39:16] just trying to look out for everybody
[1:39:19] okay and as city clerk would you help be
[1:39:22] mindful of that it's a six minute Mark
[1:39:24] that he wishes to know and uh you tell
[1:39:26] us when you're ready and the time will
[1:39:27] begin okay cool sounds good the only
[1:39:30] thing I just want to make sure is that
[1:39:31] the slides work can we fill those up
[1:39:34] real quick before we start the timer
[1:39:35] we'll get the present up there I'll make
[1:39:37] sure I can actually uh go forward and
[1:39:40] back
[1:39:43] okay looks like it's working
[1:39:45] I'm ready whenever uh you
[1:39:47] guys are
[1:39:50] good yeah I'm ready let's go thank you
[1:39:53] okay
[1:39:55] all right thank you everybody uh thank
[1:39:57] you mayor vice mayor and council members
[1:40:00] um there was quite a a lot of
[1:40:01] accusations and I'm going to try to
[1:40:05] answer as most of those as I can
[1:40:07] um but I guess before I get into that
[1:40:10] let me just quickly
[1:40:12] answer the first one we did our best to
[1:40:15] mitigate
[1:40:16] the shading and everything that
[1:40:20] 1251 says that we were impacting so I'm
[1:40:23] going to click and as you can see in the
[1:40:25] red that's basically the original design
[1:40:27] the red was what was deleted from the
[1:40:29] design and that includes a deck and also
[1:40:31] the north side and on top of that we
[1:40:34] thought in good faith that we would also
[1:40:36] remove the room too so it would allow
[1:40:38] them a better view from their bedroom
[1:40:39] and so we removed that too and so that's
[1:40:42] what's in the green
[1:40:44] and so what ended up happening is we
[1:40:47] also were at a commission meeting where
[1:40:49] they presented us with a design that
[1:40:52] placed more weight at the south of the building and that's what we also did
[1:40:58] and that's how we ended up with the
[1:40:59] current design
[1:41:03] so this is going to just illustrate that
[1:41:05] a little bit better so that we're all
[1:41:07] clear so the dotted lines is what was
[1:41:10] deleted from the original
[1:41:11] and then also the green line is what was
[1:41:13] added
[1:41:17] so one more time
[1:41:21] so all of that was removed right there
[1:41:23] in the red that's been shaded
[1:41:26] as well as we change the size of those
[1:41:28] windows and over here
[1:41:30] we're going to show that again of the
[1:41:32] total amount that was removed
[1:41:35] and the room that was removed was right
[1:41:37] there so we were hoping that by removing
[1:41:40] that it would uh
[1:41:42] make everything a little bit better
[1:41:43] um but you know we're here now
[1:41:46] so
[1:41:49] all right so this brings us to uh the
[1:41:52] main points that Tyson made and I think
[1:41:55] his presentation the majority of it
[1:41:57] focused on the shadows and how it
[1:42:00] impacts his backyard we've tried to
[1:42:02] explain to him multiple times uh in in a
[1:42:05] and do meetings privately as well as
[1:42:08] during the commission meetings so I
[1:42:09] would like to illustrate this one more
[1:42:11] time very clearly so as you can see in
[1:42:13] the red that is the first level of the
[1:42:15] house that red is the existing shade of
[1:42:19] the house the first three slides that
[1:42:21] you see is in the summer time and that
[1:42:23] green portion is actually the the shade
[1:42:27] that's caused by the second floor
[1:42:30] um so during the summer time I don't
[1:42:32] think there's any issues as you can see
[1:42:33] once it hits noon uh there isn't really
[1:42:36] nothing on
[1:42:38] Tyson's property so Equinox is on the
[1:42:41] next three slides so as you can see the
[1:42:43] red there is is basically what the
[1:42:47] existing house Shadows casting and so
[1:42:50] there's some pink hatchlines as well as
[1:42:52] the green that is the shadow that will
[1:42:55] be added onto the existing Shadow at 9am
[1:42:59] but once it hits 12 o'clock the shadow
[1:43:02] will recede and it will as you can see
[1:43:04] it goes where the red is existing and
[1:43:07] the green is uh the second floor and I
[1:43:10] like to make a note that in the photos
[1:43:12] and everything the green Shadow isn't in
[1:43:15] their main backyard area so by 12
[1:43:18] o'clock the Shadows already moved aside
[1:43:21] and then by three o'clock all Shadows
[1:43:24] off their property and I think one of
[1:43:25] the major contentions was actually
[1:43:27] during winter time so we ended up doing
[1:43:30] a few more sun studies to illustrate
[1:43:34] um or so they have a better view of all
[1:43:36] this so for 9 A.M it's uh all the shadow
[1:43:40] that's cast is actually by the first level so there isn't really
[1:43:47] any second floor level Shadow casted uh
[1:43:51] so on the second slide that little bit
[1:43:53] of green and then then that's already I
[1:43:55] believe at 10 o'clock it's real rotated
[1:43:57] out and you guys you can see it's none
[1:44:01] of it's really hitting their backyard
[1:44:03] and I think one of the things that Tyson
[1:44:06] said that the information that I'm
[1:44:08] providing is not accurate or potentially
[1:44:10] not accurate and I'd like to make it
[1:44:12] very clear that on on the staff report
[1:44:14] on page 135 actually show all the
[1:44:17] calculations of how I re I did the
[1:44:20] length in a triangle showing how the
[1:44:23] shade links are done and all that
[1:44:25] information can be
[1:44:27] compared to on online solar calculators
[1:44:30] okay so you're seeing the time okay copy
[1:44:33] that okay
[1:44:33] um well okay one one more minute and
[1:44:35] then oh
[1:44:36] all right what else we got um
[1:44:40] no no let me make sure I got everything
[1:44:44] um
[1:44:46] okay okay well
[1:44:49] so I'll move away from the shadows and
[1:44:51] let's just talk about the house so the
[1:44:53] way that the properties are laid out
[1:44:56] um I wanted to illustrate on this slide
[1:44:58] that there's
[1:45:01] a lot of foliage everywhere
[1:45:03] um as you can see in the red arrow
[1:45:04] that's a pretty large set of foliage so
[1:45:08] a lot of the Shadows do come from there
[1:45:10] once we get past the the noon
[1:45:13] um so let me show you
[1:45:19] again this is their backyard those trees
[1:45:22] and everything uh cast quite a bit of
[1:45:25] Shadows
[1:45:27] um so I just want to I just want to make
[1:45:29] sure that everybody understands that the
[1:45:31] project site itself
[1:45:33] is prone to shadows and so and the
[1:45:37] purpose of all those other slides was
[1:45:38] just to show that
[1:45:40] the Shadows actually created by the
[1:45:42] second floor isn't that large as shown
[1:45:46] in the green
[1:45:48] but yeah that's that's how I go um yeah
[1:45:54] hi I'm Kevin I'm the owner of 1261
[1:45:56] Claremont
[1:45:58] um
[1:46:00] I'll I'll start my course
[1:46:03] so healthier hello honor I just want to
[1:46:06] say that it's nice to actually have a
[1:46:08] chance in person to get to meet our
[1:46:09] mayor uh vice mayor council members city
[1:46:13] manager and assistant manager I think
[1:46:15] Peter unless you finally meet you uh
[1:46:17] Michael
[1:46:20] um
[1:46:22] thank you all and events for your time
[1:46:23] our neighbor Tyson Murphy has a right to
[1:46:25] State how he feels about the subject I
[1:46:27] respect his right but certainly don't
[1:46:29] discount all the actual efforts and
[1:46:30] resources we put into this project this
[1:46:32] house for the past uh more than one year
[1:46:35] all the efforts to get all the efforts
[1:46:37] to get the approval of the house and
[1:46:38] definitely feel free to ask Brian and I
[1:46:40] any questions
[1:46:41] through any of those pages uh I would
[1:46:45] definitely want to answer you guys if
[1:46:48] you guys have any questions and
[1:46:51] I'm just going to enter and pass it on
[1:46:54] to my wife thank you
[1:46:59] good evening uh council members and
[1:47:01] staff
[1:47:02] um thank you for your time so we've been
[1:47:04] living in San Bruno since 2013 and when
[1:47:07] I was pregnant in 2020 we decided to
[1:47:09] look for a house
[1:47:11] since we were going to have a baby so in
[1:47:13] 2021 we were really lucky to find 1261
[1:47:17] Claremont out of all the competition you
[1:47:20] know we were able to purchase this
[1:47:21] fixer-upper
[1:47:23] and we were hoping to move in by
[1:47:25] Christmas of last year but now our sun
[1:47:28] is two and a half almost and we're still
[1:47:30] living in a one bedroom condo just The
[1:47:32] Shelter Creek a few blocks away and you
[1:47:34] know it's really difficult to have a two
[1:47:37] and a half year old in a one-bedroom
[1:47:38] condo and um
[1:47:41] there's nowhere for him to run
[1:47:42] especially in the winter when it's like
[1:47:44] ringing almost every day
[1:47:46] so you know it's very frustrating to see
[1:47:50] that our property is sitting empty just
[1:47:52] a few blocks away
[1:47:54] because of uh some Shadows preventing us
[1:47:58] from moving in and I mean I don't want
[1:48:01] to repeat what the architecture
[1:48:03] architect said and planning commissions
[1:48:05] they've been through this you know many times and I just really hope that
[1:48:10] we can move forward with our life
[1:48:11] because I was planning to have another
[1:48:13] baby but you know this whole setback I
[1:48:16] don't know what's going on so
[1:48:18] um yeah so please I I hope we can
[1:48:21] continue with our Remodel and finally
[1:48:23] get to enjoy our home thank you so much
[1:48:28] thank you is there any time remaining
[1:48:30] sir
[1:48:32] little undertale
[1:48:34] a little under two minutes left is there
[1:48:37] any final comments this is the one
[1:48:38] opportunity no we're all good okay then
[1:48:41] I've been told by the applicant that
[1:48:43] their presentation has concluded
[1:48:44] therefore both presentations have
[1:48:46] concluded this is the last opportunity
[1:48:48] for those here in the audience to put
[1:48:50] forward any speaker cards but now we'll
[1:48:51] turn it over to any public comments so
[1:48:53] the clerk will read your name please
[1:48:55] step forward to the podium and you will
[1:48:57] have up to three minutes
[1:48:59] and city clerk will be keeping time
[1:49:01] thank you
[1:49:03] give me one moment let me just reset the
[1:49:06] timer
[1:49:22] okay I have one two three and I mean
[1:49:25] sorry four in-person speaker cards
[1:49:27] I will be calling in John McLaughlin
[1:49:31] as well as Joanne
[1:49:35] next one is s-bomb
[1:49:38] and the fourth is Terence Lee
[1:49:52] thank you
[1:49:54] am I I'm live
[1:49:56] uh Mr Mayor and council members uh thank
[1:49:59] you for hearing me
[1:50:00] um
[1:50:01] I'm here to speak in support of the
[1:50:03] Murphys and seek changes that will
[1:50:06] address their legitimate concerns by way
[1:50:08] of background I've known I knew the
[1:50:10] prior owner I've known him for over 50
[1:50:12] years and I remember him telling me how
[1:50:15] delighted he was to sell the place which
[1:50:17] had been continuously occupied before he
[1:50:19] sold it versus a number of years so it
[1:50:22] was not a teardown
[1:50:24] uh but he was delighted because the
[1:50:26] purchaser uh needed to make a 1031
[1:50:29] exchange for tax purposes so he was
[1:50:32] quite happy with the price he got and
[1:50:34] quite happy to be moving on from the
[1:50:36] house
[1:50:38] but I'd like to each of you to take a
[1:50:40] minute
[1:50:41] and sit in the place of the Murphys
[1:50:43] you've already heard from the applicant
[1:50:45] about their situation and their small
[1:50:47] apartment but you need to appreciate how
[1:50:49] things look from the Murphy's home
[1:50:52] you've just purchased the home of your
[1:50:54] dreams looking forward to living in San
[1:50:56] Bruno your daughter playing in the
[1:50:58] backyard virtually by accident you learn
[1:51:02] a massive expansion the house next door
[1:51:05] is going through the approval process
[1:51:07] you didn't receive the notice
[1:51:09] you speak up examine and find the
[1:51:12] applicant's package is peppered with
[1:51:14] errors and omissions a chart was shown
[1:51:17] up there of these various meetings those
[1:51:19] little boxes really don't do those
[1:51:21] meetings Justice you could spend a
[1:51:23] couple hours on each of those meetings
[1:51:25] dissecting them dissecting the issues
[1:51:28] that came up and the errors that came up
[1:51:30] sometimes found by staff quite often
[1:51:33] found by The Murphys or by The
[1:51:35] Architects
[1:51:36] that they'd retained and a lot of those
[1:51:39] were identified a lot of those were
[1:51:41] corrected
[1:51:42] you speak up you examine you find the
[1:51:45] applicant's package is peppered with
[1:51:46] errors and emissions and will damage you
[1:51:48] and I think Tyson Murphy has made it
[1:51:51] very clear how he feels that will damage
[1:51:53] him
[1:51:54] back to package goes only to return with
[1:51:57] some errors corrected some created new
[1:52:00] ones and evidence of the potential
[1:52:02] damage to your quiet enjoyment of your
[1:52:04] home in the meantime you've encouraged
[1:52:07] significant costs to bring forward
[1:52:08] correct information you become
[1:52:11] optimistic in the commission conveys an
[1:52:13] expectation that the applicant meet with
[1:52:16] you and develop an agreeable path
[1:52:18] forward you become frustrated over the
[1:52:20] lack of responsiveness to your essential
[1:52:23] concerns back the package goes through
[1:52:26] the Architectural Review sent forward to
[1:52:28] the commission with a we've done all we
[1:52:30] can do comment and approved one thing is
[1:52:34] missing the additional concerns of the
[1:52:37] Murphys were not addressed
[1:52:40] to be accurate many changes were made to
[1:52:42] the design it does look better than the
[1:52:45] first try if the first try had looked
[1:52:47] like this and the applicant had been
[1:52:50] willing to actually work with the
[1:52:51] Murphys I'd like to Hope real progress
[1:52:54] could have been made to correct features
[1:52:57] damaging the Murphy's quality of life
[1:52:59] thank you thank you for your comments
[1:53:03] thank you for being mindful of the time
[1:53:05] appreciate
[1:53:10] good evening I'm Joanne McLaughlin
[1:53:14] um we're at 1281 Claremont so just a
[1:53:17] couple houses away
[1:53:19] I just like to emphasize the residential
[1:53:22] guidelines
[1:53:23] that when the city
[1:53:26] um
[1:53:27] wrote up these guidelines clearly their
[1:53:31] intent was to preserve Sun access as
[1:53:35] much as possible
[1:53:36] you know if the diet in your materials
[1:53:40] there's the diagram showing the
[1:53:41] two-story house shading completely the
[1:53:44] one-story house next door that's the
[1:53:46] situation that we're in even though the
[1:53:51] they have done the they have moved the
[1:53:53] house addition over a little bit the net
[1:53:56] effect is it's still shading the house
[1:54:00] even as the architect said all morning
[1:54:03] the mornings are being shaded and this
[1:54:05] is an important time in your life I mean
[1:54:08] it's it's half the time you know that's
[1:54:10] till noon that's a big part of your day
[1:54:13] it's important
[1:54:15] um and just my question is
[1:54:18] why do the leaves have the blessings of
[1:54:22] the city of the Planning Commission
[1:54:26] to diminish the Murphy's enjoyment of
[1:54:30] their house
[1:54:32] I mean why are there rights greater than
[1:54:36] the existing homeowner the home people
[1:54:39] that live there
[1:54:40] the um in the one-story house
[1:54:44] the other my other issue is that yes
[1:54:47] this has taken a long time but you
[1:54:49] should have you should have been at
[1:54:50] those meetings
[1:54:51] the initial the initial trying to get it
[1:54:56] out right project
[1:54:59] um they bought the house May 27th they
[1:55:02] had this to the Planning Commission at
[1:55:04] August 19th so they threw this together
[1:55:06] really fast
[1:55:08] they didn't go out and measure they just
[1:55:10] did Google Maps you know the estimated
[1:55:13] where how close it was to the fence it
[1:55:17] was all guesstimating and the
[1:55:20] neighborhood was very upset because it
[1:55:22] was so massive it's just larger than any
[1:55:25] other house in our neighborhood
[1:55:27] and it was very sloppy and so that's why
[1:55:32] there was revision and revision and
[1:55:34] revision but yet even though that has
[1:55:37] all been done
[1:55:39] and even though the architect is saying
[1:55:41] oh we'll now see this is very little
[1:55:43] effect is coming from the second floor
[1:55:47] you should have heard
[1:55:49] I know that Tyson has photographs
[1:55:51] showing that
[1:55:53] in the morning he is getting sun in the
[1:55:56] winter time even though the one-story
[1:55:58] house is there it is coming through so
[1:56:00] when the second story is built on that's
[1:56:03] going to cause him to have
[1:56:06] to lose his sunshine in the morning and
[1:56:10] you know we all miss the sunshine these
[1:56:12] days we really
[1:56:14] we want sunshine thank you thank you for
[1:56:17] your comments next speaker please
[1:56:21] next speaker is s bomb
[1:56:39] Sharon bomb Claremont Drive
[1:56:41] Mr mayor council members
[1:56:45] I've lived in this neighborhood for 60
[1:56:47] years
[1:56:49] I've seen a lot of things happen I've
[1:56:51] seen houses rebuilt I've seen houses
[1:56:54] added on
[1:56:57] um this house that is proposed at 1261
[1:57:03] the house the Murphy's house and I don't
[1:57:06] even know the Murphys I don't know
[1:57:08] really either
[1:57:09] and the house behind
[1:57:12] 1261 they are literally going to be
[1:57:17] smothered by this Edition
[1:57:20] it's just way too big it doesn't blend
[1:57:24] in with the neighborhood it looks like a
[1:57:26] hotel
[1:57:27] because it's sitting out there on the
[1:57:30] corner these houses when they were built
[1:57:33] 65 plus years ago they were all one
[1:57:38] level ranch style homes
[1:57:41] this certainly doesn't
[1:57:44] blend in with the neighborhood at all
[1:57:46] where it's located
[1:57:48] and I agree with the Murphys that it
[1:57:52] impedes on their privacy
[1:57:56] um it seems to be really close to the
[1:58:00] property lines
[1:58:02] um
[1:58:03] perhaps
[1:58:05] the leaves should have had a little more
[1:58:07] foresight before they purchased this
[1:58:10] house if in the end they wanted such a
[1:58:13] big big home
[1:58:16] but it just it doesn't fit
[1:58:19] on that corner
[1:58:21] thank you for your comments next speaker
[1:58:26] please
[1:58:28] next speaker is Terence Lee
[1:58:42] hmm uh thank you everybody
[1:58:46] I'm not prepared to speak until the last
[1:58:49] minute
[1:58:51] I believe science
[1:58:53] and I still remember 40 something years
[1:58:57] ago I come to cebuno I studied in
[1:58:59] Skyline College
[1:59:01] and I went to San Jose State Company San
[1:59:03] Bruno San Francisco
[1:59:05] I do encourage my son Terry to start a
[1:59:09] family in San Bruno
[1:59:10] because this is the first city I come
[1:59:13] 47 years ago
[1:59:16] I have a question for Kevin
[1:59:20] are you doing this whole for profit are
[1:59:23] you doing this for development he said
[1:59:25] no
[1:59:27] it's for the Sun
[1:59:29] for the family
[1:59:30] I love it good
[1:59:33] now Mr Murphy about concerned about the
[1:59:35] tree I love tree
[1:59:37] one of the trees I grow
[1:59:40] in San Francisco just blow up
[1:59:42] by the wind two days ago
[1:59:45] 37 years ago
[1:59:48] first I wonder
[1:59:50] how much Mr Murphy is low about the tree
[1:59:53] how old is the chick what kind of tree
[1:59:55] is this
[1:59:56] and then secondly about the sunlight
[1:59:59] if I Mr Murphy
[2:00:01] I'll be very kind to the neighborhood
[2:00:03] and tell them don't pan any tall tree
[2:00:06] next to the fans between the both houses
[2:00:10] for the Privacy for the Sun Life well
[2:00:13] I'm gonna keep fighting for something
[2:00:15] so minor
[2:00:17] which only a few minutes in the winter
[2:00:21] time
[2:00:22] that's what I want to say and hopefully
[2:00:26] everybody understand
[2:00:29] you want to be about
[2:00:33] home in San Bruno and I hope the city of
[2:00:37] San Bruno willing to accept
[2:00:39] the Bibles of all different people young
[2:00:42] people old people
[2:00:45] thank you for your comments next speaker
[2:00:50] please
[2:00:52] no other speaker cards and no remote
[2:00:55] hands are raised okay this is the last
[2:00:57] opportunity for anybody in the audience
[2:00:59] or anyone that is uh watching us via
[2:01:02] Zoom
[2:01:03] it's once we move forward there will be no
[2:01:07] other public comments uh city clerk no
[2:01:10] other hands are raised all right thank
[2:01:12] you and seeing none here in the audience
[2:01:13] to me that is sufficient at this time
[2:01:16] what we will do now is we will bring it
[2:01:17] back to the city council for now their
[2:01:20] questions and or deliberation
[2:01:22] interaction
[2:01:24] colleagues
[2:01:26] first we'll go to council member Salazar
[2:01:28] uh before uh
[2:01:30] and he comes I I did want to disclose
[2:01:35] um relationships as it was advice that
[2:01:37] we do and I did want to uh say that I do
[2:01:40] know the McLaughlin's I've known them
[2:01:42] for a long time I've uh worked closely
[2:01:44] with John on on projects since the
[2:01:46] explosion I also uh know Miss Sharon
[2:01:49] Baum we've served on a committee
[2:01:50] together to
[2:01:52] Dole out the donations that were given
[2:01:55] as part of that uh donation so I do I do
[2:01:58] know those parties then so I just wanted
[2:02:00] to disclose that and I do we're being
[2:02:03] and I will say I know the McLaughlin's
[2:02:05] and and maybe it's because I've lived
[2:02:07] around town a long time and uh and for
[2:02:09] Miss bomb I also know her she's probably
[2:02:11] taught a lot of uh tiny tot uh uh Folks
[2:02:15] at the recreation center where I worked
[2:02:17] so
[2:02:19] um now but I have not talked to either
[2:02:21] of them in regards to this project but I
[2:02:24] was I know you didn't hear me I was
[2:02:25] saying I remember for the tiny taught
[2:02:27] teacher at the rec center and I wasn't
[2:02:28] employed at the recreation San Bruno
[2:02:30] Parks and Recreation but I did not talk
[2:02:32] to either parties in regards to this
[2:02:33] project
[2:02:35] is there any other disclosures that wish
[2:02:36] to be made
[2:02:38] councilmember Medina
[2:02:39] yes
[2:02:40] um I know Miss Baum I know Mr McLaughlin
[2:02:45] um from their service and from being in
[2:02:47] the neighborhood I did take a phone call
[2:02:50] from Mr Murphy regarding this project I
[2:02:53] explained
[2:02:54] that I was there to listen
[2:02:57] I did not express an opinion and said I
[2:03:00] was going to wait for this meeting to be
[2:03:03] able to listen to what each side had had
[2:03:07] to say thank you okay thank you for
[2:03:09] starting out Mr Salazar all right with
[2:03:12] that uh we will go to uh again questions
[2:03:15] and deliberations questions from Council
[2:03:17] Members I'm sorry through the mayor um
[2:03:19] I'm sorry I I can't see you but thank
[2:03:21] you uh Vice
[2:03:23] it's fine I know it's difficult to see
[2:03:25] that that so many screens when someone's
[2:03:27] on screen so I I appreciate it
[2:03:30] um I just wanted to uh uh disclose that
[2:03:32] Mr Murphy did contact me by phone as
[2:03:34] well
[2:03:35] um to express his concerns
[2:03:37] um I have not met Mr Murphy previously
[2:03:39] uh to the short phone call we had
[2:03:41] yesterday
[2:03:42] um and all the uh all the information
[2:03:44] presented were were uh was information
[2:03:47] that was already available in the packet
[2:03:49] and and presented to us tonight
[2:03:52] um and um I did not ask any
[2:03:55] um ask any questions to and deferred
[2:03:57] that um to to tonight so thank you okay
[2:04:01] thank you all right now back to
[2:04:03] colleagues
[2:04:04] um through the mayor may I make an
[2:04:06] announcement if someone is um logged in
[2:04:08] to zoom if you could disconnect the
[2:04:11] microphone feature because I believe
[2:04:14] that there is a echo due to that
[2:04:22] okay yeah okay all right uh I'm gonna go
[2:04:26] ahead and proceed okay thank you so
[2:04:28] again Council this is your time for the
[2:04:31] questions and deliberations colleagues
[2:04:36] council member Salazar I guess I'll
[2:04:38] start
[2:04:39] um
[2:04:40] so it is unfortunate that we're at this
[2:04:43] point it is uh it's always nice when
[2:04:45] neighbors can find a mutual uh
[2:04:47] Arrangement up front and it doesn't have
[2:04:49] to come to this but
[2:04:51] um I I also realize that San Bruno is
[2:04:54] completely built out and every project
[2:04:57] that comes before the Planning
[2:04:59] Commission is probably going to be a
[2:05:02] second floor Edition
[2:05:03] and it's uh almost impossible to do one
[2:05:07] of those without having some sort of
[2:05:08] impact
[2:05:09] so it is a
[2:05:12] I understand it's a sensitive situation
[2:05:14] and there are you know people making
[2:05:17] Investments uh with expectation that
[2:05:19] they can do things uh We've set out
[2:05:21] guidelines as a city that permit certain
[2:05:24] things
[2:05:25] and those guidelines don't necessarily
[2:05:28] have every potential impact
[2:05:31] played out and so that there are
[2:05:33] situations that could be disadvantageous
[2:05:37] uh there was a proposal
[2:05:40] um that the um that Mr Murphy uh uh
[2:05:45] suggested that could potentially
[2:05:47] minimize the shadowing even further and
[2:05:50] so my question to staff
[2:05:52] um first is uh were those uh
[2:05:56] modifications
[2:05:58] proposed and reviewed by the Planning
[2:06:01] Commission and could something like that
[2:06:04] be accomplished with uh minimal impact
[2:06:07] to the project cost
[2:06:18] please go ahead and you're welcome to
[2:06:20] stay up there too just in case there are
[2:06:21] questions please yes
[2:06:27] okay there we go yes uh thank you
[2:06:31] council member the uh the the diagram
[2:06:33] that uh the appellant showed uh with the
[2:06:37] image we believe is new but the but the
[2:06:39] idea of
[2:06:42] rearranging the where the addition is
[2:06:45] being put is something I was raised at
[2:06:48] prior meetings
[2:06:51] the
[2:06:52] that would be pretty much a complete
[2:06:55] redesign it is not completely outside
[2:06:58] the realm of of possibility but they're
[2:07:02] certainly added at a time in cost to the
[2:07:05] applicant
[2:07:11] thank you
[2:07:13] all right uh Mr Salazar has concluded
[2:07:15] other questions uh from colleagues
[2:07:22] uh through the mayor uh vice mayor
[2:07:24] Hamilton
[2:07:26] thank you so
[2:07:28] um
[2:07:31] council member Salazar is correct this
[2:07:33] is that this is uh unfortunate to have
[2:07:36] to
[2:07:36] um to come here because you know
[2:07:38] regardless of the decision made tonight
[2:07:40] you know there's going to be
[2:07:43] um a severe disappointment on one side
[2:07:45] so it's it's
[2:07:46] um uh it's it's unfortunate but this is
[2:07:50] um that's come to this
[2:07:52] so you know through the through the
[2:07:56] um initial staff report and then the two
[2:07:59] presentations we're getting a lot of
[2:08:02] conflicting information about the
[2:08:04] shading about what you know what what
[2:08:06] the actual impact is and
[2:08:09] it's
[2:08:11] the the presentation that we received
[2:08:13] from the um from the applicant
[2:08:16] um
[2:08:17] you know there's you know seem to
[2:08:20] demonstrate that there's you know
[2:08:22] there's already a lot of there's already
[2:08:23] a lot of shading as it is right now even
[2:08:25] without any addition and you know the
[2:08:28] um the additional shade that will be
[2:08:30] provided there has staff
[2:08:33] analyzed that and to verify that the
[2:08:37] accuracy of that
[2:08:41] Mr vice mayor uh we have we have looked
[2:08:44] at the data we've looked at the diagrams
[2:08:46] uh we have not looked into the math and
[2:08:49] the engineering and and calculations
[2:08:52] involved but the results do appear to be
[2:08:56] what we would think they would be uh
[2:09:00] looking at these type of shade and
[2:09:02] Shadow studies are not actually an
[2:09:04] application requirement and and thus
[2:09:07] this is was kind of an extra ask of the
[2:09:09] Planning Commission uh and it's not
[2:09:10] something that we have the capacity to truly go out and
[2:09:16] verify unless uh we were to hire a
[2:09:19] consultant to peer review uh
[2:09:22] that work
[2:09:24] I understood
[2:09:26] and then
[2:09:27] um I'm sorry you know vice mayor do you
[2:09:30] and I'm and I know the remote makes it a
[2:09:32] pause here can you just mind holding the
[2:09:34] city manager had wanted to add something
[2:09:37] certainly thank you Andrew I just wanted
[2:09:41] to note that um in the appellants
[2:09:44] presentation there was a picture of what
[2:09:47] the shading is today uh which did align
[2:09:50] very much to the data that was presented
[2:09:53] by the applicant showing that their
[2:09:56] today without the addition there is a
[2:09:58] lot of shading just from the existing
[2:10:01] first story in the winter at
[2:10:04] approximately 9 A.M and so
[2:10:07] the council member or vice mayor
[2:10:09] mentioned that there appeared to be a
[2:10:11] incongruence in some of the data but in
[2:10:14] what we saw today from both the
[2:10:17] appellant and the applicant I think
[2:10:18] there was congruence that there is
[2:10:20] significant shading during the winter on
[2:10:23] most of the side slash rear yard
[2:10:27] at around 9 A.M and so that's just with
[2:10:31] one story yes it will be slightly
[2:10:33] increased but from the picture that I
[2:10:34] think we all saw their significant
[2:10:37] shading already
[2:10:39] yeah and thank you city manager uh thank
[2:10:41] you for uh pausing uh vice mayor please
[2:10:43] go ahead
[2:10:44] sure and then the the other um concern
[2:10:48] regarding privacy
[2:10:50] um in the appallance uh presentation
[2:10:54] not a lot of time was was spent there um
[2:10:58] except to say that a window it was
[2:11:00] basically that a window is a window
[2:11:03] um the
[2:11:05] you know in my time on the on the
[2:11:07] Planning Commission I served on the
[2:11:08] Planning Commission before
[2:11:09] um joining the city council
[2:11:12] um you know it was like it was a fairly
[2:11:14] common practice in these situations
[2:11:16] where you've got a a two-story Edition
[2:11:19] going up next to a one-story
[2:11:22] um uh neighbor
[2:11:24] to do these clustery windows with the
[2:11:27] high high sill meaning that through the
[2:11:31] normal
[2:11:33] you know usage of of a room unless
[2:11:36] you're unless you're
[2:11:39] um
[2:11:39] tall and or you know deliberately
[2:11:43] looking up out the window you're not
[2:11:45] going to be you know gazing down into
[2:11:47] your into your neighbor's yard and this
[2:11:49] is a this is a fairly common
[2:11:51] um uh mitigation that that we've seen on
[2:11:54] these editions
[2:11:56] um councilman Salazar was correct you
[2:11:57] know whenever you're doing a uh a
[2:12:00] two-story addition next to a one story
[2:12:02] home there's going to be impacts and
[2:12:05] um
[2:12:06] I would have liked to have seen a little
[2:12:08] more you know
[2:12:10] [Music]
[2:12:12] I guess uh
[2:12:14] opinion or evidence on on the the
[2:12:17] Privacy impact after the the change of
[2:12:21] the windows
[2:12:23] um I guess that's it for me for for now
[2:12:25] thank you
[2:12:29] other questions uh councilmember Alvarez
[2:12:32] please
[2:12:33] Mr Mayor
[2:12:34] um I just want to add that I agree with
[2:12:36] the city manager I believe that the
[2:12:38] applicant has presented their case very
[2:12:42] well
[2:12:42] with regards to the orientation of the
[2:12:46] sun
[2:12:47] compared to the summer summer season and winter the orientation of the sun is
[2:12:54] basically in in between that's why on
[2:12:57] the presentation of of the applicant
[2:12:59] basically shows very little Shadow so I
[2:13:03] don't see any
[2:13:05] um any uh big impact on the shadowing
[2:13:08] issue for the purpose Edition when it
[2:13:12] comes to the uh the Privacy I think the
[2:13:16] optigan had
[2:13:17] um
[2:13:18] meant that you know all the requests
[2:13:21] from from the repellent
[2:13:25] um just to
[2:13:26] you know um
[2:13:28] give the uh the height a little bit
[2:13:31] higher and and also um based on what um
[2:13:35] vice mayor Hamilton mentioned that
[2:13:37] unless you're tall and your intention is
[2:13:39] to look down
[2:13:41] um I don't think it would be an issue on the Privacy matter
[2:13:46] with one addition we have a regular
[2:13:48] window that basically anybody can look
[2:13:51] at and through the through the through
[2:13:53] the neighbor and we don't see that being
[2:13:56] an issue as for privacy issue because
[2:13:59] it's it's a an eye level a high level of
[2:14:03] an individual so I don't see any um
[2:14:07] issue when it comes to the Privacy
[2:14:09] either based on on the applicant's
[2:14:12] presentation thank you
[2:14:15] any other questions or comments
[2:14:16] councilmember Medina yes thank you Mr
[2:14:18] Mayor
[2:14:19] um I think
[2:14:22] my colleagues covered a lot
[2:14:25] um
[2:14:27] of the concerns and and the real reality
[2:14:31] that when somebody's building a second
[2:14:33] story Edition
[2:14:35] and I can tell you from personal
[2:14:37] experience it's happening at my house
[2:14:39] right now
[2:14:41] the applicant is
[2:14:43] they're building the house and as I look
[2:14:45] up I'm I'm like wow that didn't look
[2:14:50] like that on the plans and I could
[2:14:51] understand that
[2:14:53] because property owners have rights
[2:14:58] to have a second story we have the
[2:15:00] guidelines
[2:15:01] that attempt to
[2:15:03] create
[2:15:05] more of a acceptable level
[2:15:09] and the key words that I'm looking at
[2:15:11] here are
[2:15:13] um minimize
[2:15:14] and reduce step back
[2:15:18] um and has met the daylight plane
[2:15:21] guideline
[2:15:22] and that's what I'm feeling is probably
[2:15:26] one of the most important thing here is
[2:15:27] this is our guideline
[2:15:31] um so I my question would be to staff
[2:15:34] and also to explain to the public this
[2:15:37] is the first time in seven years that
[2:15:38] I've I've sat in on a an appeal of of a
[2:15:44] property it doesn't happen very often
[2:15:47] so
[2:15:48] reducing compared to minimizing is a really really strong
[2:15:54] word
[2:15:55] um
[2:15:56] but
[2:15:57] legally I would like to hear from our
[2:16:00] City attorney about
[2:16:03] um
[2:16:04] those those words because I believe that
[2:16:08] the attempt to reduce and someone could
[2:16:11] say to minimize
[2:16:13] um has been made
[2:16:16] now if if it was possible
[2:16:19] um to move the house a little further
[2:16:23] over
[2:16:24] during the second round that would have
[2:16:27] probably been Optimum
[2:16:29] um I understand the the idea about the
[2:16:31] windows as well because looking out of
[2:16:33] my bedroom window I can see there's a
[2:16:36] window on the on the the house that's
[2:16:38] next door but
[2:16:41] houses need to have Windows and it's
[2:16:44] just something to be aware of and and
[2:16:47] it's more of a reality so I think I've just wanted to to bounce to the
[2:16:53] legal side of things to make sure those
[2:16:56] are covered and that the effort has been
[2:16:59] made
[2:17:01] by meeting the guideline which wasn't
[2:17:03] met before
[2:17:05] and
[2:17:06] um the accuracy
[2:17:10] because it's kind of a I agree with the
[2:17:13] vice mayor said we heard kind of two
[2:17:15] different things that it was it barely
[2:17:17] reduced it but hearing from the
[2:17:20] applicant that the shades are already
[2:17:22] there
[2:17:23] um so
[2:17:25] just one second so let's see how that
[2:17:29] goes if you don't mind Mr no no Trisha
[2:17:31] Ortiz City attorney so
[2:17:34] um I will probably kick it back over to
[2:17:36] staff to discuss the guidelines but I
[2:17:38] think what you're talking about were the
[2:17:39] guidelines which aren't necessarily the
[2:17:41] legal parameters the legal parameters
[2:17:43] are when we look at
[2:17:45] approving the project which is you have
[2:17:49] to be able to make the findings that are
[2:17:51] in your code and those are the findings
[2:17:54] that have all been laid out in the staff
[2:17:57] report as well as the resolution so
[2:18:00] um I think the guidelines it's probably
[2:18:02] more appropriate for staff to talk about
[2:18:04] how they view the guidelines because as they were saying they're not hard and
[2:18:09] fast rules they are just what they say
[2:18:11] they are which is guidelines and you
[2:18:13] look to okay factually how do we apply
[2:18:15] these guidelines what's the practice and
[2:18:17] things like that
[2:18:21] foreign
[2:18:28] they're both going to the same way
[2:18:31] um it it doesn't say come up again
[2:18:34] um but if uh respond further yes I have
[2:18:38] noted that when you do a second story
[2:18:42] you are going to have impacts
[2:18:45] and that and so
[2:18:48] um if the intent of the guidelines were
[2:18:52] to minimize to zero then there would be
[2:18:55] these these number of guidelines
[2:19:00] suggesting wholesale avoid one is you
[2:19:04] have a two-story wall and you have an
[2:19:06] offset on it the other is is the
[2:19:09] daylight plane
[2:19:11] one of the statements of of the
[2:19:13] appellant is the daylight plane isn't
[2:19:15] doing enough
[2:19:19] the daylight plane reflects what the
[2:19:21] council in 2010 said was enough it's a
[2:19:24] big document and as I said there's a
[2:19:26] number of guidelines and you really have
[2:19:28] to take a look at the whole package all
[2:19:30] together
[2:19:31] knowing that perfectly meeting every
[2:19:34] guideline is probably never going to
[2:19:36] happen but are you meeting the intent
[2:19:39] are you doing as much as what a update
[2:19:49] now you answered the question I mean
[2:19:51] thank you I think my colleague said
[2:19:56] asked most of the questions and that was
[2:19:58] about the the shadowing and there was two topics that came up Mr
[2:20:02] Murphy was the shadowing and the privacy
[2:20:03] and I and I a lot of time was spent on
[2:20:05] the shadowing
[2:20:06] um and I know that there is going to be
[2:20:08] an effect it's
[2:20:10] as was stated earlier a one story and a
[2:20:13] two-story there's an effect in which and
[2:20:16] it's trying to minimize it's not going
[2:20:18] to ever eliminate and I think
[2:20:20] um in my time here I'm trying to think
[2:20:22] of and also an appeal that's come
[2:20:23] forward
[2:20:25] um
[2:20:26] I share Mr Murphy's concerns because his
[2:20:29] movie may not be an option and and
[2:20:32] building is and I do know there are that
[2:20:34] those things do occur what I do to try
[2:20:37] to meet somewhere
[2:20:39] um but in which that I do appreciate
[2:20:42] that we're making a statement that I
[2:20:43] didn't have any questions there are no
[2:20:45] more questions from Council council
[2:20:47] member Salazar yes so
[2:20:49] um
[2:20:50] there was a an initial design that was
[2:20:53] rejected by the Planning Commission and
[2:20:55] then a subsequent one and what was the
[2:21:00] um the measurement that was that made
[2:21:04] the difference for the Planning
[2:21:05] Commission what what did they see the
[2:21:07] one thing I think it was a combination
[2:21:09] of of items uh and when you take
[2:21:12] together pushing the Second Story wall
[2:21:14] further away from the neighbor and
[2:21:18] meeting the daylight plane bringing the
[2:21:20] height down a little bit and shortening
[2:21:23] the length of that Second Story
[2:21:26] I I think the Planning Commission looked
[2:21:29] at well you know if you put
[2:21:32] there really isn't much more to do other
[2:21:34] than uh
[2:21:36] prescribe that it the second story has
[2:21:38] to be in a certain place which uh I
[2:21:41] believe our Planning Commission didn't
[2:21:43] believe was appropriate in this case to
[2:21:46] force the applicant to do that
[2:21:52] no further questions for staff
[2:21:54] um I'll ask if please feel free to sit
[2:21:56] down anything else from uh okay so we're
[2:22:00] back to the point of uh our deliberation
[2:22:02] and our action
[2:22:05] um I'm gonna ask the City attorney uh
[2:22:07] just so you can State I mean I know the approving would overturn the appeal
[2:22:12] but I just want to make it abundantly
[2:22:13] clear yeah mayor Medina City Council
[2:22:16] Members the motion to approve the
[2:22:20] resolution would be a motion to approve
[2:22:24] the project
[2:22:27] there are alternative uh courses of
[2:22:30] action that the staff has outlined in
[2:22:33] the staff report which means for denial
[2:22:36] or you could
[2:22:38] request that the appellant that the
[2:22:40] applicant makes certain modifications to
[2:22:42] the project design and refer the project
[2:22:44] back to the Planning Commission but the
[2:22:46] recommended motion is to approve the
[2:22:49] resolution which would approve the
[2:22:51] project and provide the necessary
[2:22:52] findings
[2:22:54] thank you very much for doing I just
[2:22:56] wanted us all to understand what action
[2:22:58] and what that will interpret and mean
[2:23:00] for it so is there any uh action
[2:23:04] from the council in regards to this
[2:23:06] appeal
[2:23:14] chair I'm sorry council member Salazar
[2:23:16] yeah and um as I stated earlier it is uh
[2:23:20] regrettable when neighbors have
[2:23:22] conflicts like these but based on the
[2:23:24] fact that uh the Planning Commission
[2:23:27] who has the expertise in this
[2:23:30] approved and I have to make a motion to
[2:23:33] um to approve
[2:23:35] the resolution as it's presented
[2:23:38] is there hold on no and uh you you've
[2:23:42] had your your time and I'm I'm sorry uh
[2:23:45] there's a motion on the floor is there a
[2:23:46] second I'm sorry a second
[2:23:48] okay and I apologize Mr Murphy
[2:23:51] um uh motion by Salazar seconded by
[2:23:54] Alvarez is everybody understand the
[2:23:55] motion
[2:23:57] then there will be a roll call please
[2:24:00] councilmember Alvarez yes council member
[2:24:04] Marty Medina yes council member Salazar
[2:24:07] yes vice mayor Hamilton
[2:24:10] yes mayor Rico Medina yes
[2:24:15] the resolution of motion has passed by a
[2:24:17] 5-0 vote thank you for your time here
[2:24:20] thank you for your your input
[2:24:24] and with that yes sir sorry sir I'm
[2:24:28] sorry sorry
[2:24:31] um with that
[2:24:33] um a five minute break to do that and
[2:24:35] then we will come back
[2:24:37] so we will be in recess for five minutes
[2:24:39] to allow everybody to depart and our get
[2:24:42] settled for the next uh situation or the
[2:24:44] next part of the agenda thank you
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[2:39:57] we're back from our recess and we are
[2:40:00] now going to be on item 8 and it will be
[2:40:02] the study session
[2:40:05] oh hi Darcy Smith assistant city manager
[2:40:08] hold on hold on
[2:40:10] um the assistant city manager was very
[2:40:12] excited for this topic but let's uh
[2:40:14] we'll have the city clerk read it and
[2:40:15] then we'll turn it over to the assistant
[2:40:16] city manager
[2:40:18] item 8A conduct study session and
[2:40:21] provide comments on the draft safe
[2:40:23] routes to school plan
[2:40:25] yes this is a very exciting item that
[2:40:28] we've been waiting for for a while
[2:40:29] because safe routes to school is very
[2:40:31] important to everyone in the community
[2:40:33] it affects us all so with that I'll turn
[2:40:36] over to Matt Lee our Public Works
[2:40:37] director who's gonna kick off this item
[2:40:39] and I apologize I know it's late it's a long item but we have a lot of
[2:40:44] really meaty details that we wanted to
[2:40:45] present to you as this is a study
[2:40:47] session
[2:40:48] thank you thank you Mr Lee good evening
[2:40:50] mayor Medina members Council uh like
[2:40:53] assistant city manager Smith said this
[2:40:55] is a very exciting item I'm actually
[2:40:56] excited about it too it's a long time
[2:40:59] coming uh it's about a year in the
[2:41:01] making
[2:41:02] um and the study session is for the safe
[2:41:05] routes to school plan which I think we
[2:41:07] all can agree on uh which is making safe
[2:41:09] routes for children's to to walk or find
[2:41:12] alternative modes of transportation to
[2:41:14] school I am going to be here tonight to
[2:41:17] kind of set the stage for the plan
[2:41:19] itself I have Jeff Knowles here from
[2:41:21] Alta planning to kind of go through the
[2:41:23] meat and potatoes of the of the
[2:41:25] presentation itself and Anna Morales of
[2:41:28] our team to be able to answer any
[2:41:30] questions later if you guys have it
[2:41:32] uh in terms of the agenda like I said
[2:41:35] we're going to go through those items
[2:41:36] what I wanted to do was to actually talk
[2:41:39] about the background uh as you all know
[2:41:42] uh the city was awarded a Caltrans Grant
[2:41:45] in 2020 of approximately 250 000 uh that
[2:41:50] Grant was to allow us to develop a
[2:41:52] city-wide safe route to school plan
[2:41:54] which was uh developed within this past
[2:41:58] year starting back in November 2021
[2:42:01] this plan is actually a really great
[2:42:05] example of how the community can come
[2:42:07] together and develop a plan that works
[2:42:09] for everybody it involved multiple
[2:42:11] stakeholders various schools and members
[2:42:14] of the community
[2:42:15] so without further Ado I would like to
[2:42:19] bring Jeff Knowles up to talk about the
[2:42:22] plan itself
[2:42:24] foreign
[2:42:25] welcome and thank you for your patience
[2:42:28] thank you thank you members of council
[2:42:30] mayor of staff and members of the public
[2:42:32] who are joining us my name is Jeff
[2:42:33] Knowles I'm with Alta planning and
[2:42:35] design of principal and our Oakland
[2:42:36] office it's been my pleasure to be be
[2:42:38] your project manager in the safe routes
[2:42:40] to school plan
[2:42:43] my agenda tonight is to walk you through
[2:42:45] the project overview talk about the
[2:42:47] safety analysis that was conducted the
[2:42:49] community engagement that we went
[2:42:50] through for this plan uh the walk Audits
[2:42:53] and then really get into the findings
[2:42:54] recommendations that were prioritized
[2:42:56] and then Matt's going to come back and
[2:42:58] talk to you about next steps and where
[2:42:59] you go from here
[2:43:02] to the project overview
[2:43:04] favorites to school is a comprehensive
[2:43:06] program to make school communities safer
[2:43:08] especially for people students who are
[2:43:10] walking or bicycling we do that by a
[2:43:13] combination of engineering Solutions and
[2:43:15] education and encouragement activities
[2:43:17] that will hopefully encourage people to
[2:43:19] take that active choice
[2:43:23] the project involved objective data
[2:43:25] analysis focused on safety listening to
[2:43:28] Community member concerns and their
[2:43:29] ideas observing traffic patterns and
[2:43:32] behavior
[2:43:33] based on those findings we developed
[2:43:35] priority Improvement recommendations
[2:43:37] the plan is not funded or commits the
[2:43:40] city to any funding rather it sets the
[2:43:42] city up to make wise Investments and
[2:43:45] compete for grant funding from the
[2:43:46] county from MTC and other state funding
[2:43:50] sources
[2:43:53] we partnered with many schools Bel Air
[2:43:56] Allen Rollingwood John Muir and Portola
[2:44:00] elementary schools Parkside intermediate
[2:44:02] cappuccino high and St Robert Catholic
[2:44:05] Palos Verdes and El Portal schools we
[2:44:08] also there are a couple schools that
[2:44:09] were partially participating that means
[2:44:11] they were involved that we had
[2:44:12] recommendations but we didn't they
[2:44:13] didn't get the full Suite of involvement
[2:44:15] Highlands Christian School Stratford and
[2:44:17] monteverdi were three they were added as
[2:44:20] parsley participating
[2:44:23] started oops excuse me
[2:44:27] we started this process in Winter of
[2:44:29] 2022 where the schools were identified
[2:44:31] we had our first Community Workshop in
[2:44:33] the spring we conducted our walk audits
[2:44:35] we initiated our community surveys we
[2:44:38] met with ptos and ptas that's
[2:44:40] parent-teacher organizations and
[2:44:42] associations and started identify draft
[2:44:44] recommendations
[2:44:47] in the summer we gathered input on those
[2:44:49] recommendations we revised them
[2:44:51] prioritized them and created the draft
[2:44:53] plan
[2:44:54] this fall we shared the draft plan with
[2:44:57] the public we revised it based off of
[2:44:59] input we received from school
[2:45:01] administrators and for members of the
[2:45:02] public we produced a final draft plan
[2:45:05] that is here tonight for city council
[2:45:07] study session
[2:45:08] the final plan will be presented for
[2:45:11] city council adoption tentatively
[2:45:13] February 14th
[2:45:19] I'm going to talk a little bit about
[2:45:19] safety analysis which was one of our big
[2:45:21] factors in coming up with
[2:45:22] recommendations we analyzed vehicle
[2:45:25] pedestrian and collision data on the
[2:45:27] city's roadways and produce the map that
[2:45:29] you see on the screen the roads in blue
[2:45:32] and purple have the most significant
[2:45:34] safety challenges the analysis
[2:45:36] highlighted areas that had the most
[2:45:37] severe collisions involving Youth and crashes
[2:45:41] that involve vulnerable Road users that
[2:45:43] is people walking or bicycling
[2:45:45] the results that you see here align with
[2:45:47] what we've seen in other jurisdictions
[2:45:49] most crashes occurring along busier
[2:45:51] streets and in denser roadway networks
[2:45:53] you can see that around Skyline
[2:45:55] Boulevard here and also along and east
[2:45:58] of El Camino Real
[2:46:03] our community engagement involved online
[2:46:05] and in-person engagement so for online
[2:46:08] we had a project website we developed
[2:46:11] that project website with San
[2:46:13] bruno.ca.gov safe routes if measure the
[2:46:15] public are watching or watching later
[2:46:17] they can still go to that website and
[2:46:19] get information about the plan
[2:46:21] we had a survey interactive map we had
[2:46:24] information about upcoming events and a
[2:46:26] contact form
[2:46:28] this is a screen capture of the
[2:46:29] interactive web tool where residents
[2:46:31] could share their preferred walking or
[2:46:33] bicycling routes from home to school
[2:46:35] they also could add points to identify
[2:46:37] challenging locations along those routes
[2:46:42] we made presentations to over 70 parents
[2:46:45] and staff at PTO meetings at Allen
[2:46:48] Rollingwood John Muir and Portola we
[2:46:51] actively tried to get on the agendas for
[2:46:53] all the different ptos some of them were
[2:46:55] less active than others and these are
[2:46:56] the ones that invited us to come and
[2:46:58] present
[2:47:01] we heard from over 400 residents through
[2:47:04] the survey responses and half of those
[2:47:06] were parents and students that lived
[2:47:08] within a mile of school so that's a
[2:47:09] great distance for walking and bicycling
[2:47:11] the top three concerns we heard were
[2:47:13] speeding traffic along the Route
[2:47:15] uncomfortable intersections and too much
[2:47:17] traffic along the Route
[2:47:20] in addition to that in-person online
[2:47:22] engagement we conducted walk audits
[2:47:26] this is a practical oops sorry this is a
[2:47:29] practical exercise where our staff of
[2:47:31] Transportation planners and Engineers
[2:47:32] worked with City staff District staff
[2:47:35] School administrators and parents to
[2:47:38] observe biking and walking we looked at
[2:47:41] how people were able to cross streets
[2:47:42] observed any potential safety issues how
[2:47:45] drivers interacted with students in
[2:47:47] walking and biking and we conducted
[2:47:49] these with for the nine fully
[2:47:51] participating schools
[2:47:55] so now I'm going to talk to you about
[2:47:56] the findings and recommendations we
[2:47:59] developed site-specific recommendations
[2:48:00] those recommendations are in two
[2:48:02] different buckets infrastructure
[2:48:04] projects and non-infrastructure programs
[2:48:07] examples of infrastructure projects
[2:48:09] include painting high visibility
[2:48:10] crosswalks
[2:48:12] like the image shown here this is
[2:48:14] converting maybe a two parallel lines or
[2:48:16] transverse crosswalks into this ladder
[2:48:18] style these are painted yellow these are
[2:48:21] to Mark the high visibility crosswalks
[2:48:23] in school zones
[2:48:25] another type of infrastructure that
[2:48:27] we're recommending are curb extensions
[2:48:29] you can see an example here where we've
[2:48:31] bold out the corners this is important
[2:48:34] to increasing visibility especially for
[2:48:36] smaller students at the corners
[2:48:38] increases the visibility between drivers
[2:48:40] and people waiting to cross it also
[2:48:42] reduces the exposure of people out in
[2:48:44] the middle of the street it also another
[2:48:46] benefit is that it slows down cars
[2:48:49] taking turns at Corners there's another
[2:48:51] style that you can do which is a paint
[2:48:52] and post there's an example here where
[2:48:55] you just have flexible bollards and
[2:48:57] paint that goes down this could be an
[2:48:58] interim low-cost solution as you're
[2:49:00] looking for funding for that higher cost
[2:49:02] full concrete solution in the previous
[2:49:04] image
[2:49:06] other examples infrastructure could
[2:49:08] include stop signs or completing studies
[2:49:10] that you need to add stop signs or
[2:49:13] painting red no parking curbs I heard a
[2:49:16] comment at the speaker or the from the
[2:49:18] public earlier today about this desire
[2:49:21] this is something that comes up
[2:49:22] repeatedly in the plan of creating these
[2:49:24] visibility zones for people crossing the
[2:49:27] streets
[2:49:30] most touristic most jurisdictions lean
[2:49:32] heavily on engineering Solutions what I
[2:49:34] want to point out is this plan balances
[2:49:36] that with non-infructure programs
[2:49:39] it includes a comprehensive list of
[2:49:41] these infrastructure programs such as
[2:49:43] Walk and Roll to school days
[2:49:45] walking school buses which you can see
[2:49:48] here parents volunteering to walk their
[2:49:50] kids to school and pick up other kids
[2:49:52] along the way
[2:49:53] other ideas like encouraging families to
[2:49:56] park and walk to school for those that
[2:49:58] can't maybe walk the entire distance
[2:49:59] this is a way to kind of cut that in
[2:50:01] half driver awareness campaigns and bike
[2:50:03] rodeos which include skills training for
[2:50:06] kids
[2:50:07] yeah
[2:50:08] this image is from a series of one page
[2:50:11] one pages that we created for school
[2:50:12] Partners looking to get involved in
[2:50:14] safer programming the same information
[2:50:17] is shared in the safe rates of school
[2:50:19] plan starting on page 19. we include a
[2:50:21] program description
[2:50:23] planning resources and program examples
[2:50:26] potential partners and responsible
[2:50:28] agencies and the timing or seasonal
[2:50:31] considerations for each of the programs
[2:50:34] one program that has strong interest is
[2:50:36] the crossing guard program Matt Lee is
[2:50:38] going to come back and share with you
[2:50:40] some of the discussion about the
[2:50:42] crossing guard program
[2:50:47] thanks Jeff a little bit about the
[2:50:49] crossing guard program just so we recall
[2:50:52] on the October 11th council meeting
[2:50:53] there was a discussion of a student
[2:50:56] pedestrian Crossing safety on Niles
[2:50:58] Avenue and in that meeting the there was
[2:51:01] a it was brought to the attention
[2:51:03] Council that Crossing cards were
[2:51:05] provided at three locations the one
[2:51:07] location at Crystal Springs and Oak
[2:51:09] Avenue
[2:51:11] was optimized for student safety and so
[2:51:14] the discussion had there
[2:51:16] at that time the police chief was
[2:51:18] directed to kind of go take a look back
[2:51:21] at the crossing guard program that memo
[2:51:23] is attached in this staff report and uh
[2:51:25] the the biggest takeaway is uh to add
[2:51:28] additional crossing guards would be
[2:51:29] approximately twenty thousand dollars
[2:51:31] per year per location and require
[2:51:33] Amendment to the current budget and the
[2:51:35] appropriate funds needed for that
[2:51:36] contract now I handed it back to Jeff to
[2:51:41] talk about the city-wide infrastructure
[2:51:44] recommendations
[2:51:47] thanks Matt so before I share the draft
[2:51:50] school specific recommendations the plan
[2:51:52] has three city-wide infrastructure
[2:51:54] recommendations
[2:51:55] first we recommend lowering speed limits
[2:51:57] to 15 miles per hour in school zones
[2:52:00] the second is to look at what policy
[2:52:02] changes are necessary to make it easier
[2:52:04] for staff to add always stops in school
[2:52:07] zones
[2:52:08] and finally adding Street trees and
[2:52:11] green storm water infrastructure at the
[2:52:13] same time that safety improvements go in
[2:52:15] when funding allows
[2:52:18] the city of San Bruno and the districts
[2:52:20] served in this plan do not have
[2:52:23] unlimited financial resources or staff
[2:52:25] capacity so recognizing that
[2:52:27] implementing every recommendation in the
[2:52:30] plan may not be feasible
[2:52:32] therefore we put we went through a
[2:52:34] prioritization process to identify the
[2:52:35] highest impact and lowest cost projects
[2:52:38] this plan uses the following criteria to
[2:52:40] select those high priority projects
[2:52:42] across the city and for each School
[2:52:45] the first is location projects and
[2:52:47] locations with the greatest risk
[2:52:49] indicated by that Collision analysis
[2:52:51] that I shared with you previously
[2:52:53] second was efficacy there have been many
[2:52:55] studies about how efficient or you know
[2:52:57] effective different treatments are and
[2:53:00] reducing crashes and so that was
[2:53:01] something we looked at
[2:53:03] and then the third and final criteria
[2:53:05] was cost so this is where we scored
[2:53:07] lower cost projects higher
[2:53:09] I'll walk through uh now I'm going to
[2:53:12] walk through each school's high priority
[2:53:13] projects I'm not going to go through all
[2:53:15] 92 just the high priority ones for each
[2:53:17] school that way you can come back with
[2:53:19] any questions you have
[2:53:22] after reviewing Community input and
[2:53:24] conducting a walk audit at Allen
[2:53:26] Elementary we found that cars moved
[2:53:28] quickly on Lyndon Elm and Angus ABS we
[2:53:30] also didn't find a need for crosswalk
[2:53:31] improvements at intersections near the
[2:53:33] schools near the school based on the
[2:53:36] findings the plan recommended nine
[2:53:38] infrastructure projects
[2:53:40] the three high priority projects at
[2:53:42] Allen are shown in the map in red at
[2:53:44] number four on Angus Avenue where the
[2:53:46] plan recommends making the school drop
[2:53:48] off Loop a write-in right out only for
[2:53:51] vehicles the other two high priority
[2:53:53] recommendations are number six at
[2:53:55] Genevieve and Acacia Ave and number
[2:53:57] seven at Genevieve and Cypress ABS the
[2:53:59] plan recommends studying adding all
[2:54:01] waste stops and then also adding red
[2:54:03] curb near the crosswalks at both of
[2:54:05] these locations
[2:54:09] at Bel Air Elementary findings from the
[2:54:11] walk audit and Survey are consistent
[2:54:13] with the school safety assessment
[2:54:14] conducted in 2019
[2:54:16] specifically concerns about congestion
[2:54:18] at the school entrance on Third Avenue
[2:54:20] and around the loading zones and
[2:54:22] speeding into and out of the school
[2:54:24] parking lot connecting to First Avenue
[2:54:30] the planning effort was more extensive
[2:54:31] than the previous School assessment as
[2:54:33] such these findings are consistent with
[2:54:35] the previous work and in some cases
[2:54:36] Provide support for more robust
[2:54:38] Solutions the plan recommends 11
[2:54:40] improvements around Bel Air
[2:54:42] high priority recommendations include
[2:54:44] numbers three and four shown in red on
[2:54:46] the map which focus on improving
[2:54:47] conditions where the school drop-off
[2:54:49] Loop meets Lions Park number three adds
[2:54:52] a sidewalk connection into Lion's Park
[2:54:54] parking lot to connect the school with
[2:54:57] the existing pedestrian path towards the
[2:54:58] south side of the Lot Number Four adds a
[2:55:00] raised crosswalk and a right in right
[2:55:03] out style directive to slow and simplify
[2:55:05] vehicle movements at that location
[2:55:08] recommendations two and six also clarify
[2:55:10] pedestrian right-of-way by making a
[2:55:12] crosswalk across the driveway around the
[2:55:14] school
[2:55:20] the walk audit and our survey feedback
[2:55:22] at cappuccino highlighted long
[2:55:24] uncomfortable Crossings especially to
[2:55:26] the east of Campus on El Camino Real
[2:55:29] people also noted the rolled curb on on
[2:55:32] the sidewalks that allowed cars to park
[2:55:34] and block the sidewalk making it
[2:55:35] challenging for people to walk in some
[2:55:38] areas around the school
[2:55:41] plan recommends 11 projects at
[2:55:43] cappuccino
[2:55:45] the high priority improvements are
[2:55:47] mostly along El Camino Real you can see
[2:55:48] this on 7 8 and 11. those include mostly
[2:55:52] adding always stops and recommending
[2:55:55] straightening the right turn Lanes to
[2:55:57] align with the street to improve
[2:55:58] visibility and slow
[2:56:00] turning traffic
[2:56:05] yeah John Muir a walk audit participants
[2:56:07] noticed significant congestion along
[2:56:09] crestmore Drive leading North from the
[2:56:11] school along with the other Drive driver
[2:56:13] behavior and conditions that made it
[2:56:15] challenging to Cross crestmore Drive
[2:56:17] additional Community input reinforced
[2:56:19] Crossing difficulties at existing marked
[2:56:22] and unmarked crosswalks
[2:56:24] so therefore we came up with 10
[2:56:25] improvements at Muir the highest
[2:56:27] priority improvements are focused on
[2:56:28] making it easier for students and
[2:56:30] community members across crestmore drive
[2:56:32] at Cambridge Lane close to the school
[2:56:35] recommendation you can see number four
[2:56:37] includes an all-way stop warrant study
[2:56:40] and then recommendation six adds Boll
[2:56:43] alerts or posts to create a hardened
[2:56:46] Center Line on Cambridge Lane
[2:56:47] approaching the school entrance
[2:56:51] foreign
[2:56:54] schools these are County run special
[2:56:56] education facilities where the student
[2:56:58] body is bussed to campus their walking
[2:57:01] and biking needs are somewhat limited as
[2:57:02] a result however school officials on the
[2:57:05] walk audit share that students
[2:57:06] frequently crossed Commodore Drive to
[2:57:08] access the park across the street and
[2:57:10] would benefit from improved
[2:57:11] accessibility and ease of that Crossing
[2:57:16] we have four recommendations at the
[2:57:18] school site the high priority project is
[2:57:20] located on Commodore Drive at the school
[2:57:21] entrance and includes painting a high
[2:57:24] visibility crosswalk across the driveway
[2:57:26] and realigning the curb ramps to make
[2:57:28] the entrance to the school grounds more
[2:57:31] accessible
[2:57:34] at Parkside walk audit participants and
[2:57:36] Community input noted significant
[2:57:38] digestion and double parking along Niles
[2:57:41] Avenue adjacent to school which made it
[2:57:43] difficult for students to cross from the
[2:57:45] adjacent neighborhood genevine Ave was
[2:57:48] also identified as a barrier for
[2:57:49] students Crossing from neighborhoods to
[2:57:51] the north with heavy or fast traffic and
[2:57:54] uncomfortable intersections the project
[2:57:56] team also explored potential connections
[2:57:59] to the South to dissipate some of the
[2:58:02] congestion on the north side of the
[2:58:03] school
[2:58:06] of the nine recommendations
[2:58:08] projects that worksite for them are high
[2:58:11] priority two recommendations numbers
[2:58:12] eight and nine along genevine Ave at
[2:58:15] Cedar and Cherry Ave include paint and
[2:58:18] post curb extensions and high visibility
[2:58:20] crosswalks to make it easier to cross
[2:58:22] Genevieve while an always-stop warrant
[2:58:25] study is also recommended at Cedar lined
[2:58:28] up with the school entrance
[2:58:29] recommendation 4 also involves a stop
[2:58:31] warrant study to create better Crossing
[2:58:33] opportunities at the school entrance
[2:58:35] recommendation number seven at Donner
[2:58:37] Ave and Palomar Court include conducting
[2:58:40] a stop warrant study with second tier
[2:58:42] recommendations to install high-vis
[2:58:44] crosswalks
[2:58:48] the walk audit at Portola and Community
[2:58:50] input noted and comfortable conditions
[2:58:52] walking along Amador Avenue due to foggy
[2:58:55] conditions and lack of street lights the
[2:58:57] project team also heard concerns about
[2:58:59] Crossing at busy intersections towards
[2:59:02] and including Skyline Boulevard that
[2:59:03] serve as a barrier for students and
[2:59:05] caregivers about and about visibility
[2:59:09] concerns that the existing Crossing on
[2:59:10] Amador near the school entrance
[2:59:13] we have five recommendations at Portola
[2:59:15] the highest priority recommendation is
[2:59:17] to increase pedestrian accessibility
[2:59:20] and visibility at the school entrance on
[2:59:22] Amador Ave by adding curb ramps and a
[2:59:24] high visibility crosswalk as well as
[2:59:26] reinforcing simplified traffic flow with
[2:59:28] right in right out only Flex posts
[2:59:34] the largest opportunity for improvement
[2:59:36] shared by The Rolling one Community was
[2:59:38] the current traffic congestion during
[2:59:40] pickup and drop-off due to Vehicles
[2:59:42] parked on Cottonwood Drive knowing that
[2:59:44] Rolling Wood is slated to close at the
[2:59:46] end of the 22-23-3 school year the
[2:59:48] project team also looked at connections
[2:59:50] to other neighborhoods at the periphery
[2:59:52] of rolling one school zone
[2:59:55] of the six recommendations at
[2:59:57] Rollingwood three are high priority the
[2:59:59] first and easiest is to implement
[3:00:00] recommendation number two on the map
[3:00:02] priveting marketing parking along
[3:00:04] Cottonwood where the pot pick up and
[3:00:06] drop off cues form a bottleneck the
[3:00:08] other two high priority projects are
[3:00:10] adding high visibility crosswalks and
[3:00:13] exploring traffic calming along
[3:00:14] Rollingwood Drive
[3:00:18] at St Robert Elementary project team
[3:00:20] heard from Community about traffic
[3:00:21] moving quickly and a need for traffic
[3:00:23] calming along Oak Avenue as well as
[3:00:26] Crossing concerns at Oak and Niles and
[3:00:28] Oak and Crystal Springs
[3:00:30] during the walk audit the project team
[3:00:31] had similar observations and also noted
[3:00:33] challenging pedestrian visibility around
[3:00:36] the many entrances and exits of school
[3:00:37] and church parking lots along Oak and
[3:00:40] Crystal Springs
[3:00:42] the plan recommends 13 projects around
[3:00:45] St Roberts and the highest priority
[3:00:47] recommendations are related to
[3:00:48] pedestrian visibility along and at
[3:00:50] Crystal Springs Road near Oak Avenue
[3:00:57] Highlands Christian School this is the
[3:00:59] first of the three partially
[3:01:00] participating schools that did not
[3:01:01] receive a walk audit however conditions
[3:01:04] observed during the Portola Elementary
[3:01:05] walk audit informed recommendations
[3:01:07] nearby at Highlands as you can see
[3:01:09] portola's shown here just up the street
[3:01:12] on on Amador Ave recommendation number
[3:01:16] one it's a high priority to increase
[3:01:18] pedestrian visibility at the school
[3:01:19] entrance by extending the red curbs on
[3:01:21] Amador Ave and Monterey Drive
[3:01:23] second high priority project number two
[3:01:26] is exploring the addition of traffic
[3:01:27] calming elements to Monterey Drive such
[3:01:29] as speed feedback science which are the
[3:01:31] signs that light up to tell you how fast
[3:01:32] you're going
[3:01:33] adding speed humps or visually nearing
[3:01:35] the travel Lanes by striping The Edge
[3:01:37] Lane of parking
[3:01:39] all of the traffic calming would need to
[3:01:41] adhere to the city's traffic calming
[3:01:43] program
[3:01:45] monteverdi is another school that the
[3:01:47] project team did not conduct a full walk
[3:01:49] audit however we sent our engineering
[3:01:52] team out there to look at observations
[3:01:54] and came up with additional
[3:01:56] recommendations a high priority is here
[3:01:58] at
[3:01:59] um Saint Cloud and Fleetwood Drive the
[3:02:02] plan recommends conducting an always
[3:02:03] stop warrant study painting high
[3:02:05] visibility crosswalks on all legs of the
[3:02:07] intersection installing paint and post
[3:02:09] curb extensions and extending the length
[3:02:12] of the adjacent no parking zones
[3:02:16] Stratford school is the final partially
[3:02:19] participating school and like the others
[3:02:22] did not receive a full audit but from
[3:02:24] the input we received from the public we
[3:02:26] came up with a series of recommendations
[3:02:28] high priority number one on the map is
[3:02:30] extending no parking zones around the
[3:02:33] existing crosswalk at the school
[3:02:34] entrance
[3:02:35] number three is to evaluate install
[3:02:39] traffic calming devices along crestmore
[3:02:41] drive this is one that came up quite a
[3:02:44] bit from public input on recommendations
[3:02:47] for the school
[3:02:49] so in summary we've prioritized 22 high
[3:02:52] priority projects at a cost of just
[3:02:54] under five hundred thousand dollars 38
[3:02:56] medium priority projects at 2.1 million
[3:02:59] dollars and 32 lower priority projects
[3:03:02] at 4.9 million dollars a total of 7.5
[3:03:06] million dollars altogether these are all
[3:03:09] planning level cost estimates and
[3:03:10] additional design is needed to further
[3:03:12] refine these costs we believe you can
[3:03:15] accomplish all high priority projects
[3:03:17] with a single Grant from San Mateo
[3:03:19] County Transportation Authority through
[3:03:20] their measure a w program additional
[3:03:23] City and external grants will be needed
[3:03:24] for the rest
[3:03:26] Matt's going to come back and going to
[3:03:28] share a list a short list of
[3:03:29] opportunities that we think the city
[3:03:30] will be competitive for screen funding
[3:03:32] and then walk you through next steps
[3:03:37] thanks Jeff so
[3:03:40] in terms of funding opportunities we
[3:03:43] really try to be opportunistic for plans
[3:03:45] like this once we get the plan going and
[3:03:48] it's adopted by Council we take every
[3:03:50] opportunity we can with existing
[3:03:52] projects to implement some of these
[3:03:53] low-hanging fruits and then with that
[3:03:57] there are also grant opportunities that
[3:03:59] we keep our eyes out on there's federal
[3:04:00] grants such as safe routes Safe Streets
[3:04:03] on roads for all there's various state
[3:04:05] grants and as Jeff mentioned there's the
[3:04:07] local grants of San Mateo County measure
[3:04:10] a w as well and then there's always our
[3:04:12] own CIP funds if if there are any that
[3:04:16] would um be be able to be utilized with
[3:04:20] those types of funds I now pass it back
[3:04:22] to Jeff uh to oh sorry I apologize and
[3:04:26] so uh so those are the funds that we
[3:04:28] have for tonight the fiscal impact there
[3:04:31] is no fiscal impact for you guys to
[3:04:33] receive the the plan itself uh we
[3:04:36] already as we mentioned earlier had a
[3:04:38] grant to uh develop the plan
[3:04:41] um and so there would be no cost for
[3:04:43] this actual plan uh and finalizing it
[3:04:45] the next steps we have is to receive the
[3:04:47] input from Council uh and the project
[3:04:50] team can finalize the safe routes to
[3:04:52] school plan and bring it back for
[3:04:53] Council adoption at a future meeting
[3:04:56] so tonight's action is just for you to
[3:04:59] provide us with any comments you have on
[3:05:00] the plan itself or we're able uh to
[3:05:03] answer any questions that you and you
[3:05:06] all may have
[3:05:08] thank you both very much for the report
[3:05:10] and at this time we'll ask any uh
[3:05:13] comments or questions comments or
[3:05:15] questions from Council at this time
[3:05:18] councilman Medina
[3:05:22] um
[3:05:24] it's amazing really
[3:05:26] um just wanted to thank everyone
[3:05:27] involved for for this I know
[3:05:32] numerous people in our community are
[3:05:34] concerned about you know the topic not
[3:05:37] only around schools but the additional
[3:05:39] speeding and
[3:05:42] impairments to line of sight at
[3:05:45] intersections where there's just so many
[3:05:47] cars now that our roads weren't designed
[3:05:50] to have that many cars and now
[3:05:53] people are parking and blocking the line
[3:05:55] of sight and and
[3:05:57] um
[3:05:59] I'm looking forward to implementing some
[3:06:01] of these things I'm concerned of course
[3:06:03] of the cost just like everything else
[3:06:05] [Music]
[3:06:05] um
[3:06:06] were trying to do our best with the
[3:06:09] money that we have I am encouraged by
[3:06:12] the grant opportunities and
[3:06:16] um as we go forward with our budget
[3:06:19] to seeing how we could start taking
[3:06:22] bites out of these things to making and
[3:06:25] I really appreciate the
[3:06:28] um the way that it's prioritized for for
[3:06:30] getting the low-cost effective ones I
[3:06:33] mean a lot of crosswalks back in the day
[3:06:36] I I recall
[3:06:39] um how we would repaint crosswalks like
[3:06:43] every other year and then and and I
[3:06:44] think we've kind of gone away from that
[3:06:46] and there's a lot of striping that needs
[3:06:48] to be done on not just the crosswalks
[3:06:51] but on our streets as we heard earlier
[3:06:53] today
[3:06:55] so a lot of thanks for everyone
[3:07:00] um and uh there's a lot now it's there's
[3:07:03] a lot of work ahead so how we achieve
[3:07:06] that I look forward to the budget and
[3:07:08] seeing how we can get those grants so
[3:07:10] thank you all for your work
[3:07:12] thank you councilmember Alvarez please thank you
[3:07:18] um I want to acknowledge sorry everyone
[3:07:19] really quickly
[3:07:22] the I think it I think it's page 24 or
[3:07:25] 25 of the slides
[3:07:29] so I noticed I noticed that
[3:07:31] um the regular sidewalk was painted uh
[3:07:34] yellow very
[3:07:36] um you know very attractive and then I
[3:07:39] also saw the round round design material
[3:07:44] I don't know what materialism how do you determine uh what specific
[3:07:49] design
[3:07:51] um to use I noticed that the the blue bubble I think it's on page 24
[3:07:57] 25. very attractive actually
[3:08:02] um is that
[3:08:05] but it's not it wasn't used for The
[3:08:08] Pedestrian though unlike the yellow
[3:08:10] paint
[3:08:14] um yeah I'm trying to find the photo I
[3:08:16] think slide 24
[3:08:18] is slide 25 is just a concrete bulb out
[3:08:22] location are you talking about that yes
[3:08:24] the blue
[3:08:26] blood design oh okay yeah so so uh so
[3:08:29] like Jeff uh mentioned earlier these are
[3:08:32] kind of the low-cost implementations uh
[3:08:35] that we can kind of get out into uh the
[3:08:38] into the real world uh without having to
[3:08:41] spend a little too much money with the
[3:08:43] final solution which is essentially the
[3:08:46] concrete bulb out so uh I think what we've learned in the transportation
[3:08:49] field is that we can Implement these
[3:08:51] quickly
[3:08:52] um and and and have them out there so
[3:08:55] that they can expect so that the
[3:08:57] traveling pedestrians can experience the
[3:08:59] benefit prior to us finding a solution
[3:09:01] of putting in actual concrete because
[3:09:04] you know with the concrete work here
[3:09:06] it's not just putting another sidewalk
[3:09:08] out it's actually re-grading and looking
[3:09:10] at the flow line for storm drainage uh
[3:09:13] for for the intersection and trying to
[3:09:15] make sure that that works and so that's
[3:09:16] where the complications are so these are
[3:09:18] kind of like Jeff said
[3:09:20] um the the infrastructure improvements
[3:09:23] that we can see a little more quickly
[3:09:24] obviously these would be an air areas
[3:09:27] where the wreck these are implemented in
[3:09:29] areas where we're trying to shorten the
[3:09:31] crossing distance
[3:09:33] between the yellow visibility material
[3:09:36] that we usually
[3:09:37] see on the ram in in the sidewall and
[3:09:42] they use that a lot for visibility but
[3:09:44] you mentioned that you know this is also
[3:09:46] as part of the reason for visibility so
[3:09:49] between the two I probably would lean to
[3:09:52] that the blue design the round blue
[3:09:55] design very nice thank you
[3:09:58] councilmember Salazar thank you sir uh
[3:10:01] so one one question
[3:10:03] um Matt I was wondering if you had had a
[3:10:05] chance or will you at some point uh see
[3:10:08] if there's an intersection between the
[3:10:10] projects recommended here and projects
[3:10:12] that we have in in flight or planning
[3:10:15] already I was thinking you know we're going to put the the traffic
[3:10:19] signals uh in front of the entrance to
[3:10:22] City Park and that could have a
[3:10:25] significant impact in some of the
[3:10:26] recommendations that were made around St
[3:10:28] Roberts and so uh you know maybe if we
[3:10:32] can
[3:10:33] so we could potentially prioritize
[3:10:35] projects that have already either been
[3:10:38] vetted or we already know that something
[3:10:39] is is in the works for them
[3:10:42] yeah that's a that's a great comment um
[3:10:44] so uh unfortunately the projects are
[3:10:47] happening on different timelines right
[3:10:49] like the intercession of city park we've
[3:10:50] kind of gone through the analysis to
[3:10:52] determine what we were going to do at
[3:10:53] that intersection and so we're moving
[3:10:55] ahead with design we're in the process
[3:10:57] of trying to get this plan adopted but
[3:11:00] the good news is once this plan does get
[3:11:01] adopted then we kind of make sure we
[3:11:04] look take a look at our existing
[3:11:05] projects to see where we can find
[3:11:07] synergies between the recommendations
[3:11:09] and what we're currently implementing
[3:11:11] okay and then my my next question was
[3:11:14] just you know regarding these projects
[3:11:16] in general is there empirical data that
[3:11:19] shows what level of participation we get
[3:11:24] in communities for each of these types
[3:11:26] of projects so you know what it what is
[3:11:29] the real impact right because people may
[3:11:31] say yeah we'd like to ride our bikes to
[3:11:33] school with our kids but once once the
[3:11:36] routes are in place is there any
[3:11:38] evidence that people actually follow
[3:11:40] through on that commitment yeah so
[3:11:42] um I can bring Jeff up to talk about
[3:11:44] kind of the before and after studies of
[3:11:46] the plan and how we measure if the
[3:11:49] infrastructure or the improvements are
[3:11:51] working yeah
[3:11:53] a great question again Jeff Knowles with
[3:11:54] Alta this gets question asked asked a
[3:11:57] lot about when we make this investment
[3:11:58] are we actually see a return on that the
[3:12:00] answer is yes if you combine the
[3:12:02] engineering with the non-infrastructure
[3:12:04] programs together they kind of work hand
[3:12:06] in hand you can't just have new
[3:12:07] infrastructure and hope for the best so
[3:12:09] that's where this plan really marries
[3:12:11] the two together in partnership with
[3:12:12] school districts with other like the
[3:12:15] County Office of Education provides a
[3:12:17] lot of resources so I think together you
[3:12:18] can see that
[3:12:20] before and after studies Nationwide have
[3:12:22] shown as much as a 20 increase in
[3:12:24] children walking and bicycling to school
[3:12:26] when there is a robust safer to school
[3:12:28] program activated
[3:12:30] okay thank you so it's more than just
[3:12:32] build it and they will come it's more
[3:12:33] than just build it and we come it has to
[3:12:34] be a steady consistent investment all
[3:12:37] right so well thank you and and I also
[3:12:39] wanted to say that it was a very
[3:12:40] impressive report I enjoyed reading it
[3:12:42] so thank you
[3:12:44] vice mayor Hamilton
[3:12:47] uh I also agree it was very impressive
[3:12:49] uh report and um very very comprehensive
[3:12:53] I have a couple of of comments and then
[3:12:55] a question the
[3:12:57] um I'm all I'm also as as
[3:13:01] um the council member Medina mentioned I
[3:13:03] I'm concerned with the overall cost but
[3:13:06] this is the the the in looking through
[3:13:09] all of the
[3:13:10] um all of the uh infrastructure
[3:13:13] recommendations in the report and I did
[3:13:15] that I read through every single one of
[3:13:16] them
[3:13:17] um I could they're all good projects
[3:13:20] every single one of them they're so you
[3:13:22] know I I so I appreciate that we you
[3:13:24] know that we
[3:13:25] um have already done the effort to
[3:13:27] prioritize and and try to put some at
[3:13:29] the top of the list but eventually
[3:13:30] they're all going to
[3:13:32] um and um so what I'm hoping that we'll
[3:13:34] be able to leverage
[3:13:36] um Consultants to do the bulk of the
[3:13:38] design work under supervision from our
[3:13:40] city staff
[3:13:41] um as managers
[3:13:43] um considering that especially if we're able to do these do this work
[3:13:46] with one-time Grant funds
[3:13:49] um
[3:13:50] because it's going to take you know a
[3:13:52] while to get a lot of these projects
[3:13:55] um completed I I agree that the the
[3:13:58] education piece
[3:14:00] um is something that we need to get
[3:14:01] after right away I had one question
[3:14:03] regarding education and um there was a program in place when my
[3:14:08] kids were in elementary school called uh
[3:14:11] stop look wave
[3:14:12] and I I it was and there was there was
[3:14:16] Fanfare about it when it came out and
[3:14:17] then then it kind of went away I don't
[3:14:19] know if that was a school district
[3:14:20] program or if it was a city program
[3:14:24] um and basically what it was was that
[3:14:26] education both for drivers and for
[3:14:28] students to
[3:14:30] um reduce the reduce the danger at
[3:14:33] marked crosswalks meaning that when you
[3:14:37] come to a crosswalk both the driver and
[3:14:40] the people crossing the street
[3:14:43] Endeavor to make eye contact and then
[3:14:45] wait and
[3:14:47] um and and then you know so then when
[3:14:49] you see when you see the wave from the
[3:14:50] driver you know that the driver sees you
[3:14:52] and that you can cross safely
[3:14:54] um I haven't heard anything about this
[3:14:55] and I'm wondering if that's maybe just a
[3:14:57] program that fizzled out and I just
[3:14:58] wondered if if there was any mention of
[3:15:00] that or or or if that came up at all
[3:15:03] during the
[3:15:04] um during the work to put together the
[3:15:06] report
[3:15:09] thank you uh councilmember Hamilton uh that is a good question uh like Jeff
[3:15:15] knows indicated earlier
[3:15:17] we there are various programs that you
[3:15:20] can apply with the infrastructure fixes
[3:15:23] uh you know with safe routes to school
[3:15:25] they talk about the fivees you know
[3:15:27] education enforcement and and all that
[3:15:29] and so
[3:15:31] um I have not specifically heard of that
[3:15:33] program but the way you describe it it
[3:15:35] makes sense right really the goal is to
[3:15:37] make sure uh that the pedestrians and
[3:15:40] the drivers see each other so there are
[3:15:41] no collisions I can check with Jeff uh
[3:15:45] to see if they're if he's aware of that
[3:15:47] type of program
[3:15:48] okay thank you there was a small
[3:15:51] engineering component to it because they
[3:15:53] actually painted the words stop look
[3:15:55] wave in the in the in the crosswalks
[3:15:58] um you know for the for the pedestrians
[3:16:00] to see uh vice mayor thank you for that
[3:16:03] and we've we've noted that when we were
[3:16:04] doing walk on it so we saw that painted
[3:16:06] on a lot of your cross so stop look wave
[3:16:07] and we thought this is look at San Bruno
[3:16:09] leading the way I've never seen any
[3:16:10] other jurisdiction do that so I think
[3:16:13] it's a good thing that we should
[3:16:14] probably talk about maybe more in the
[3:16:16] plan somewhere
[3:16:17] um we don't know what happened to that
[3:16:20] program but it's certainly part of the
[3:16:21] driver awareness campaign that we did
[3:16:23] call out in the plan as a as an activity
[3:16:25] as part of the notification programs I
[3:16:27] think the city should
[3:16:28] look at most of them are Grant funded
[3:16:31] through the office of traffic safety and
[3:16:33] so this is one where I assume that it
[3:16:35] had a grant ran its course and it's
[3:16:37] probably not now it's the time to look
[3:16:38] at that again so thank you okay thank
[3:16:42] you for the explanation
[3:16:45] thank you vice mayor uh city manager
[3:16:49] thank you mayor uh Jess with stop
[3:16:50] looking wave uh I am knowledgeable of
[3:16:53] that stenciling that we did and um the
[3:16:56] city does possess the actual stencil and
[3:16:59] our staff does routinely repaint the
[3:17:02] stop looking wave and certainly as we
[3:17:05] look at those high priority projects we
[3:17:07] can check back in with staff and see if
[3:17:09] any of those crosswalks that currently
[3:17:11] have it uh need a refresh and I believe
[3:17:13] it was
[3:17:15] I'll just say pre-covet when I last had
[3:17:17] that conversation with staff and we did
[3:17:19] a mini uh overtime program just to make
[3:17:22] sure that um those crosswalks were
[3:17:25] repainted and refreshed with stop
[3:17:27] looking wave but know that we'll look
[3:17:28] into that and we have that stencil and
[3:17:30] that ability in-house
[3:17:32] that's great through the mayor yes um
[3:17:35] that that's that's great news and I'd
[3:17:37] love to hear that and I would think that
[3:17:40] we we Pro it's been a while so we
[3:17:42] probably need to at least do some
[3:17:44] Outreach to remind people what it means
[3:17:47] not just not just paying it make sure
[3:17:49] that it's there but remind people what
[3:17:50] it actually means
[3:17:52] um so that's just a suggestion thank you
[3:17:55] yeah and for me uh I'll try to make it
[3:17:58] brief not to um
[3:18:00] also State what my colleagues have but
[3:18:02] yes very detailed report I want to also
[3:18:04] make mention that we're talking about
[3:18:05] funding sources and obviously from the
[3:18:08] San Mateo County Transportation
[3:18:10] Authority funds were allocated uh for
[3:18:12] this I remember voting on that
[3:18:14] um and in addition obviously I'm not
[3:18:16] going to speak any more about that since
[3:18:18] I serve on that body
[3:18:19] but also there was an item in the report
[3:18:21] about SamTrans and working
[3:18:22] collaboratively a lot of this report is
[3:18:24] about being collaborative a lot on the
[3:18:26] PTO ptas about the school district about
[3:18:29] where where does that all that come
[3:18:31] together as far as trying to get either
[3:18:33] funding grants and or collaboration and
[3:18:36] shall we say skin in the game but on the
[3:18:39] SamTrans I know it alluded to cappuccino
[3:18:41] and Parkside as far as having more buses
[3:18:43] I want to say I can tell you that for
[3:18:47] SamTrans it was a very much a direction
[3:18:49] by the board of directors to have school
[3:18:51] schedules aligned very much staff at the
[3:18:55] transit district went out and tried to
[3:18:58] reach out to all superintendents and the
[3:19:01] districts I can tell you for Parkside as
[3:19:04] an example they did not turn in the
[3:19:06] survey but the Transit District staff
[3:19:09] went online to look up the school
[3:19:11] schedule and do the best they can as far
[3:19:13] as with cappuccino high school it's also
[3:19:16] very close to the El Camino Real route
[3:19:18] so that is very much a hub as far as
[3:19:22] getting to other locations and again we
[3:19:25] also know the fact of everybody who
[3:19:27] wants I'm sure it better in all their
[3:19:30] Community but serving in the county
[3:19:31] sometimes when you're adding routes then
[3:19:34] some routes are going to have to go and
[3:19:36] they're based on obviously ridership
[3:19:38] and economics and the return so I just
[3:19:42] wanted to make that comment on the the
[3:19:43] two Transit District things but it is a
[3:19:47] very detailed report I think council
[3:19:49] member Medina might have said but you
[3:19:51] know
[3:19:53] it's a lot of money and so it's about
[3:19:55] getting what you can get done but it's
[3:19:58] also about trying to uh shall I say
[3:20:00] partner with others and trying to see
[3:20:02] what we can do so but thank you very
[3:20:04] much for the report let me see if
[3:20:05] there's anybody from the public that
[3:20:08] wishes to speak on this topic
[3:20:10] we do not have any speaker cards but we
[3:20:13] have one hand one remote hand raised
[3:20:15] Jennifer Blanco
[3:20:18] and we hear from trustee Blanco please
[3:20:20] Jennifer Blanco whenever you're ready
[3:20:22] you may begin
[3:20:25] how about now yes we can hear you oh
[3:20:29] perfect okay
[3:20:31] um thank you so much I um first of all
[3:20:34] let me Begin by saying wishing everyone
[3:20:37] um a happy New Year just unfortunate
[3:20:40] that we're we started it with all these
[3:20:43] atmospheric reverse storms and so stay
[3:20:46] safe everyone so
[3:20:48] um thank you again for allowing me to
[3:20:49] speak my name is Jennifer Blanco and I
[3:20:53] am one of the trustees on the San Bruno
[3:20:54] Park School District I listened to the
[3:20:57] whole presentation and so I do have some
[3:21:00] questions so if Matt and Jeff would be
[3:21:04] so gracious enough to answer my
[3:21:05] questions I would truly appreciate it
[3:21:08] so um Marty I do have to agree with you
[3:21:12] that we as a community we have many
[3:21:13] community members here who are very
[3:21:16] concerned with our kids and getting them
[3:21:18] safe lead to school and that also
[3:21:20] includes us trustees and so
[3:21:24] um my questions are
[3:21:27] so um I didn't see or read anything as
[3:21:31] unfortunately I'm not able to log on to
[3:21:34] my laptop to watch the meeting but I'm
[3:21:36] watching from my phones it's really hard
[3:21:38] for me to read the presentation
[3:21:41] um I didn't see anything in regards to
[3:21:44] um for partnering with the bike and
[3:21:49] um pedestrian committee and the reason
[3:21:52] why I'm asking that is because I'm going
[3:21:55] to say six or seven principles that go
[3:21:57] from Parkside we did have a fatal
[3:22:01] um uh accident when we had a student who
[3:22:05] took off on a friend's bike and she did
[3:22:07] not know that her um that the bikes
[3:22:11] brakes didn't work and so she flew down
[3:22:15] on Niles and head on
[3:22:18] um
[3:22:19] hit um an oncoming back Shield of a car
[3:22:22] and
[3:22:24] um she passed away
[3:22:26] um I believe she was a seventh or eighth
[3:22:28] grader and Sir her name is Rebecca
[3:22:30] Medrano
[3:22:31] um and so I know that we need a lot of
[3:22:34] Education in regards to
[3:22:37] um to our kids and just letting them
[3:22:39] know that there's you got to be safe
[3:22:41] when you're out there on the streets
[3:22:43] um last year also in regarding I kept
[3:22:46] hearing pedestrian disability with the
[3:22:49] congestion congestion on Niles last year
[3:22:52] a student ran out from between the cars
[3:22:55] and it just so happened that I saw it
[3:22:58] myself he ran into a car and he hit the
[3:23:00] car and then he fell down to the street
[3:23:03] I know a lot of Education we need we
[3:23:06] need to really push that education to
[3:23:09] our to all of our families throughout
[3:23:11] the school district and so
[3:23:13] um the other thing too is
[3:23:16] um
[3:23:17] so I would I was I'm just wondering if
[3:23:20] um
[3:23:21] if it's possible I would really
[3:23:24] appreciate it if the school board could
[3:23:27] have this presentation and so my my one
[3:23:30] of my questions so my question was for
[3:23:32] the partnership with the bike and um but
[3:23:35] The Pedestrian committee and also when
[3:23:37] will the school district receive this
[3:23:39] presentation and thank you for the time
[3:23:41] thank you very much uh trustee Blanco is
[3:23:44] there any
[3:23:45] plans to uh you've already been working
[3:23:48] with the schools right but will they be
[3:23:50] also have the availability to the
[3:23:52] reporter reach out to or is that not
[3:23:56] known uh so we've we've worked with the
[3:23:59] schools and our bicycle pedestrian
[3:24:01] advisory committee and as well as our
[3:24:04] tspc uh we've worked with them as well
[3:24:06] uh as part of our efforts
[3:24:10] um it was we were not going as part of
[3:24:13] the consultant scope we weren't going to
[3:24:14] go to the school district and make a
[3:24:16] presentation but
[3:24:18] uh
[3:24:20] you would need to have that through the
[3:24:22] appropriate accounts I'm sorry city
[3:24:27] manager thank you mayor um we will look
[3:24:29] into uh communicating with the school
[3:24:31] board and seeing if it's possible to
[3:24:33] have a presentation provided to them
[3:24:37] thank you
[3:24:39] um and thank you very much and I also
[3:24:42] wanted to say I I did I forgot with the
[3:24:44] 15 Mile uh per hour I brought that up
[3:24:47] and I didn't realize it was April but it
[3:24:49] was a while ago and I thank all my
[3:24:51] colleagues because they were concurrence
[3:24:52] 100 about that that's important so those
[3:24:55] are the things that I think we should
[3:24:56] move on that are immediate of concern
[3:24:58] and safety so but with that
[3:25:01] um thank you both very much and thank
[3:25:02] you for being here and being patient
[3:25:05] this evening we appreciate it
[3:25:07] all right thank you with the hour of 10
[3:25:10] 30 at this time uh we as our new policy
[3:25:13] is we have conduct a business and
[3:25:16] comments from Council Members which
[3:25:19] would mean we would normally conclude at
[3:25:20] 11
[3:25:21] unless we have a motion and a vote to
[3:25:24] exceed that so I just want to be as is
[3:25:27] it more than just a check-in and and
[3:25:29] then if we get close we will see that
[3:25:31] Council wants to exceed the time
[3:25:33] thank you sir
[3:25:35] but again if you if we haven't taken
[3:25:37] action or began the topic prior to 11
[3:25:39] then that will need to be extended so
[3:25:41] with that why don't we move to conduct
[3:25:43] of business
[3:25:48] item nine a introduce read by title and
[3:25:51] wave further reading of an ordinance
[3:25:53] adding chapter 2.33 to the San Bruno
[3:25:56] Municipal Code adopting local
[3:25:58] contribution limits for city council
[3:26:01] elections
[3:26:03] a City attorney I was going to say you
[3:26:05] could have done it there but
[3:26:16] hello mayor Medina and City Council
[3:26:18] Members I'm returning to you with our
[3:26:21] item on considering a ordinance to
[3:26:24] establish local campaign contribution
[3:26:27] limits
[3:26:31] there it is
[3:26:35] foreign so here's an outline of what I'm
[3:26:39] going to be discussing I'm going to give
[3:26:40] you a little bit of background an
[3:26:41] overview of the uh the regulations
[3:26:45] the proposed ordinance and then a
[3:26:47] recommended action
[3:26:54] so as you'll recall back in March of
[3:26:57] 2022 you held a study session on a
[3:26:59] number of potential ballot items
[3:27:01] including whether or not you would like
[3:27:05] to establish campaign contribution
[3:27:07] limits
[3:27:08] um as part of that study session you
[3:27:10] directed staff to come back with a
[3:27:12] ordinance not to create not to have a
[3:27:14] ballot measure but instead to consider
[3:27:17] an ordinance of the city council
[3:27:19] we brought that ordinance back to you
[3:27:21] December 13th of 2022 you considered it
[3:27:25] um and raised questions about a
[3:27:28] provision prohibiting Anonymous
[3:27:30] donations
[3:27:32] and requested staff to to return with an
[3:27:35] ordinance that does not impose
[3:27:36] requirements that are in addition to the
[3:27:39] existing requirements in the political
[3:27:41] reform act and I'll get back to that
[3:27:44] after just giving continuing to give you
[3:27:47] a little bit of a background about the
[3:27:48] ordinance so as you may recall in 2021
[3:27:53] there are beginning in 2021 the state
[3:27:57] established local camp or Statewide
[3:28:00] campaign contribution limits that apply
[3:28:02] by default when a city has not already
[3:28:05] enacted its own local limits the default
[3:28:08] contribution was four thousand nine
[3:28:11] hundred dollars for the years 2021 and
[3:28:14] 2022 and the legislation provides for
[3:28:17] that amount to be adjusted
[3:28:20] every two years for inflation so it was
[3:28:23] just recently updated and the new limit
[3:28:26] is 5500.
[3:28:30] um and then when you were looking at
[3:28:32] this we presented you with a table
[3:28:34] showing the various local campaign
[3:28:37] Finance regulations for cities in nearby
[3:28:42] on the peninsula here
[3:28:46] the ordinance that we provided
[3:28:49] um
[3:28:50] provides a prohibits contributions from
[3:28:53] a person to a candidate in excess of
[3:28:55] five hundred dollars
[3:28:56] the limit does not apply to
[3:28:58] contributions of a candidate's own
[3:29:00] personal funds to a candidate's own
[3:29:01] campaign and it requires a statement to
[3:29:04] be included on all campaign
[3:29:07] contributions solicitations here's the
[3:29:10] there's the uh the notice I won't read
[3:29:13] it it's also in the ordinance
[3:29:16] um
[3:29:17] the ordinance does not apply to
[3:29:18] campaigns for a ballot measure
[3:29:20] referendum or initiative it requires
[3:29:22] electronic filing of campaign statements
[3:29:25] it established penalties and provided
[3:29:28] additional enforcement tools
[3:29:31] and I'm just going to quickly go over
[3:29:32] this because we already looked at this
[3:29:34] before and here is the key of why we're
[3:29:37] coming back the proposed ordinance
[3:29:39] prohibited Anonymous contributions in
[3:29:41] any amount which essentially imposed a
[3:29:44] requirement to track uh the source of
[3:29:47] all contributions and the question was
[3:29:49] does this impose a requirement on
[3:29:52] candidates that exceeds what's already
[3:29:55] in the political reform Act
[3:29:57] so under the political reform act there
[3:30:00] is a clear prohibition to receive
[3:30:02] Anonymous contributions of a hundred
[3:30:04] dollars or more from any person
[3:30:07] and also in the political reform act
[3:30:09] there's a requirement to report when the
[3:30:12] total amount of contributions received
[3:30:14] from any person exceeds 100 or more
[3:30:18] so these two Provisions together
[3:30:20] actually are an applied obligation to
[3:30:22] track contributions under a hundred
[3:30:24] dollars because you'd have to know if
[3:30:27] somebody gave you fifty dollars if you
[3:30:29] got another fifty dollars did that come
[3:30:31] from the same person so
[3:30:34] the ordinance that I'm bringing back to
[3:30:36] you is the same ordinance that you
[3:30:38] looked at in December
[3:30:41] and the question to you is are you
[3:30:45] satisfied with having explicit the
[3:30:48] obligation to track obligations
[3:30:51] under a hundred dollars or do you want
[3:30:54] to remove that obligation so that you
[3:30:57] are uh so so you don't have this clear
[3:31:00] requirement
[3:31:01] um and you are more clearly aligned
[3:31:04] with the specific language of the
[3:31:06] political reform Act
[3:31:09] so there's two potential recommended
[3:31:11] actions the first is to if you're going
[3:31:14] to establish the campaign contribution
[3:31:17] limits you can have the motion is to
[3:31:20] introduce read by title only and wave
[3:31:22] further reading of an ordinance adding
[3:31:24] chapter 2.33 to the San Bruno Municipal
[3:31:27] Code adopting local campaign
[3:31:29] contribution limits in the alternative
[3:31:31] motion if you want to remove the
[3:31:33] prohibition against Anonymous
[3:31:34] contributions would be to make that same
[3:31:37] motion but also direct or to specify
[3:31:40] that the ordinance you're adopting would
[3:31:43] uh Delete paragraph B of section
[3:31:46] 2.33.030
[3:31:49] and with that I'm happy to take any
[3:31:51] questions any questions from colleagues
[3:31:57] um
[3:31:58] questions council member questions yes
[3:32:01] please
[3:32:02] so
[3:32:03] for clarification on the
[3:32:06] anonymous donations
[3:32:09] so
[3:32:10] there's a distinction I guess between
[3:32:12] tracking and Reporting correct right and
[3:32:15] so what we're required to report is
[3:32:18] anything that exceeds a hundred dollars
[3:32:21] from an individual correct so
[3:32:24] if we are to specify an R
[3:32:28] uh ordinance that we
[3:32:31] do not allow Anonymous does that imply
[3:32:35] also that we are required to report it
[3:32:37] does not no it is it is merely an
[3:32:40] obligation to not accept an anonymous
[3:32:43] donation it is just an obligation to
[3:32:46] inquire as to the source of that
[3:32:48] information have some way of tracking it
[3:32:50] but you're not there's no reporting
[3:32:52] requirements the
[3:32:54] um
[3:32:55] the ordinance does not change the
[3:32:57] reporting requirements they are what
[3:32:59] they are in the political reform act the form requires the reporting of all
[3:33:04] donations from any source of 100 or more
[3:33:07] and since that is covered under the fppc
[3:33:10] guidelines then is it necessary for us
[3:33:13] to state that if it's already covered by existing
[3:33:19] legislation right
[3:33:22] um so the way I look at it is kind of we
[3:33:24] had the question come up in December
[3:33:27] what does this mean so I think by
[3:33:29] stating it you make it very clear that
[3:33:32] we are requiring the source of all
[3:33:36] donations to be identified and to track
[3:33:40] it is implied I think in the current
[3:33:43] regulations but it's not specifically
[3:33:45] stated which I think is why we had the
[3:33:47] question and I had to go back and look
[3:33:49] at it and come back to you with this
[3:33:51] discussion so
[3:33:53] um
[3:33:53] I guess my answer is by by adding it
[3:33:56] you're just making it very clear that
[3:33:58] this is the proper way to track how you
[3:34:01] receive contributions
[3:34:04] and my next question you may have to
[3:34:07] defer to somebody else and staff but
[3:34:11] when we run for office the county
[3:34:14] provides instruction on how we conduct
[3:34:18] our campaigns and what our regulations
[3:34:20] are so will the city now assume the
[3:34:24] responsibility of conducting its own
[3:34:26] education campaign for new candidates
[3:34:28] that address its own
[3:34:31] specific guidelines and if so will that
[3:34:34] be conducted by the city clerk's office
[3:34:36] and what what is the impact yeah so I'm
[3:34:39] happy to turn this over to staff but I
[3:34:41] guess my initial thought is that it's
[3:34:45] just an ordinance like any other
[3:34:46] ordinance that says here's our rules
[3:34:49] um I don't know that it requires much
[3:34:52] education Beyond here's what the rules
[3:34:55] are which is the limit the limit for
[3:34:57] campaign contributions 500 dollars
[3:35:00] there is no there is a Prohibition
[3:35:02] against
[3:35:04] um Anonymous contributions so to the
[3:35:06] extent there is any education I suppose
[3:35:08] it could be as simple as handing a
[3:35:11] candidate the city's ordinance or
[3:35:13] directing the the candidate to the
[3:35:16] cities
[3:35:17] um
[3:35:18] the municipal code I do know that I I
[3:35:21] believe that the city clerk provides a
[3:35:24] handbook to candidates and we probably
[3:35:28] could quite easily wrap these new
[3:35:31] Provisions into that either by again
[3:35:34] attaching the ordinance or just
[3:35:36] summarizing the key provisions
[3:35:39] so we do meet we do meet with each
[3:35:41] candidate individually and explain the
[3:35:44] documents and go over the forms so that
[3:35:46] would be something that we would
[3:35:48] definitely go over and explain with each
[3:35:50] candidate that is running for office
[3:35:54] and then uh finally there there is a
[3:35:58] language in there that says that uh
[3:36:01] individuals have the option to
[3:36:05] um
[3:36:06] basically seek legal action against a
[3:36:08] candidate if they feel that they've
[3:36:10] violated it and the city has basically
[3:36:13] right a first refusal to address the
[3:36:15] issue if they choose not to that an
[3:36:17] individual could still sue a candidate
[3:36:19] for uh non-compliance based on their
[3:36:22] interpretation
[3:36:24] now
[3:36:25] I don't believe that there's anything
[3:36:27] currently uh that the state does other
[3:36:30] than impose fines for violations so this
[3:36:34] pretty much makes it a crime
[3:36:36] to willingly uh so somebody all somebody
[3:36:39] would have to do is say that no they
[3:36:41] should have known better and so they
[3:36:43] willingly broke the law now they're
[3:36:45] basically
[3:36:47] um
[3:36:47] having to having to pay an additional so
[3:36:50] not just fine but of actually paying for
[3:36:53] a violation of a of a city
[3:36:56] um
[3:36:57] ordinance and so that that also is sort
[3:37:00] of above and beyond uh I believe of the
[3:37:03] penalty that the state would impose
[3:37:06] right so there is so
[3:37:09] provide penalties similar to other code
[3:37:12] violations there's the you know
[3:37:15] infraction and misdemeanor
[3:37:16] administrative fine those are all
[3:37:18] options for the city to enforce and then
[3:37:21] the additional enforcement tools do
[3:37:23] include include a private right of
[3:37:25] action which would be a private citizen
[3:37:28] bringing a private lawsuit so not saying
[3:37:33] um yeah so so it would just be a civil
[3:37:36] suit it wouldn't be a Criminal suit
[3:37:40] but the
[3:37:42] so
[3:37:43] there is something in there that says
[3:37:45] that if a candidate willfully violates
[3:37:49] this these Provisions then it is an
[3:37:51] infraction
[3:37:53] not just a final mistake
[3:37:56] of the way the fppc would interpret it
[3:37:59] but actually
[3:38:00] you're you're breaking a rule and then
[3:38:02] so you're subject to a fine because of
[3:38:06] that and then on top of that private
[3:38:08] citizens can also step in and um and
[3:38:11] take action that is correct the way it's
[3:38:13] set up that is correct
[3:38:15] oh that that's it just and then I
[3:38:19] certainly want to hear from the rest of
[3:38:20] colleagues I thought back in December
[3:38:22] 13th one of the things were like the
[3:38:24] state does this and we don't want to
[3:38:25] exceed that right and and I think
[3:38:28] council member sellers are brought up a
[3:38:30] very
[3:38:30] quite the state awarding imposed then
[3:38:34] assembly uh person Mullen already
[3:38:36] established something for the State of
[3:38:37] California
[3:38:38] and then jurisdictions have that ability
[3:38:39] to to exceed it but not you can't have
[3:38:42] less than it so then the council said
[3:38:45] okay we want to go through this process
[3:38:46] and I think the reason it pauses on this
[3:38:48] December 13th specifically was because
[3:38:50] it was a reporting mechanism of uh below
[3:38:54] 90 uh 99 and below and I think that's
[3:38:57] what we're trying to get and not have
[3:38:58] all these extras and um again due to the
[3:39:03] hour some of the areas that Mr sellers
[3:39:05] are just pointed out are the concerns
[3:39:07] I've had and that's what I had in the
[3:39:08] 13. so it's still I still have those
[3:39:11] concerns but anyway let me see my other
[3:39:13] colleagues councilmember Medina
[3:39:19] right so I think less is more
[3:39:22] in this case of of keeping it to
[3:39:27] um whatever the state says and the only
[3:39:29] thing we're changing is the limit
[3:39:31] everything else Remains the Same I think
[3:39:33] is probably what I understood the
[3:39:36] council wanted to do
[3:39:38] um it's nice to see that there are
[3:39:40] penalties but
[3:39:42] um I don't mind if we kept those but
[3:39:47] I'm feeling like
[3:39:49] to keep it more streamlined that just
[3:39:52] having the limit
[3:39:54] eliminating the the tracking because
[3:39:57] let's let the state do that it's up to
[3:40:00] each candidate but um I think if we kind
[3:40:02] of just kept it really streamlined and achieved just to make sure I
[3:40:07] understand the comment I the state has
[3:40:10] enforcement measures for so we're not
[3:40:13] adding any additional reporting
[3:40:14] requirements we're just limiting we're
[3:40:16] establishing a limit and then we're also
[3:40:19] providing this this ordinance also
[3:40:22] provides penalties for failure to comply
[3:40:25] with the ordinance similar to any other
[3:40:27] code violation I don't believe the state
[3:40:30] is going to enforce your 500
[3:40:32] contribution limit
[3:40:34] the city would need to have some sort of
[3:40:37] a
[3:40:38] it's it's the city's ordinance and the
[3:40:41] city needs to have penalty if if it
[3:40:43] wants to have teeth
[3:40:45] it needs to include that in the
[3:40:47] ordinance yeah had we stayed with the
[3:40:49] state then the state tracks it it's
[3:40:51] their responsibility because we are
[3:40:53] modifying that correctly and we are
[3:40:55] sitting in the limit now the stability
[3:40:56] that so extra work is now being placed
[3:40:59] in the city of San Bruno for that
[3:41:01] ownership I've already heard my comments
[3:41:03] but now we're adding a penalty and stuff
[3:41:05] I don't know a policy needed um
[3:41:08] so with your explanation of of guests
[3:41:12] if if a candidate did write and Report
[3:41:16] that they took six hundred dollars from
[3:41:18] somebody then they'd be in violation
[3:41:20] society when there are no consequences
[3:41:22] then people just go ahead and do it and
[3:41:24] so what's the point
[3:41:27] of having the rule if you're not and as
[3:41:29] for the amount of time tracking
[3:41:32] basically when we file our our updated
[3:41:34] reports to the state that gets a copy to
[3:41:37] our city clerk I'm for enforcement and the city clerk can chime in here but
[3:41:43] I but the ordinance does require
[3:41:45] electronic filing which I think is
[3:41:47] intended to Yes
[3:41:50] um so back on the um
[3:41:53] on the anonymous donations piece there
[3:41:56] was there are discussion whether we
[3:41:57] should remove that language to make
[3:41:59] things simpler and I'm not in favor of
[3:42:02] that well let me ask my question first
[3:42:05] if we were if we were to remove the
[3:42:10] um
[3:42:11] the the explicit language prohibiting
[3:42:14] Anonymous donations
[3:42:18] of any kind
[3:42:20] um
[3:42:21] would that mean that someone who wanted
[3:42:23] to get around the 500 contribution limit
[3:42:27] and give me more than that as if I was a
[3:42:30] candidate
[3:42:31] um that they could simply send me
[3:42:36] 10 99 Anonymous donations
[3:42:39] separately
[3:42:41] um yeah council member Hamilton I think
[3:42:44] you're right I mean the intention of
[3:42:46] adding the prohibit prohibition against
[3:42:48] Anonymous donations was to
[3:42:51] one make it clear that probably if you
[3:42:55] ever get any Anonymous donations that
[3:42:57] total one hundred dollars you need to
[3:43:00] track who they're from to make sure
[3:43:01] they're not from the same person
[3:43:05] um
[3:43:06] I don't know what's wrong right and two
[3:43:10] to try to to the extent that you wanted
[3:43:13] to limit contributions to five hundred
[3:43:17] dollars to provide to include a
[3:43:20] provision that closes a pretty
[3:43:23] significant loophole
[3:43:26] right
[3:43:28] and this provision closes the loophole
[3:43:30] in your opinion
[3:43:32] correct
[3:43:35] thank you that's that's why I'm in favor
[3:43:37] of leaving it
[3:43:38] Mr Salazar councilman Salazar I would
[3:43:41] say that because the state already
[3:43:43] requires us to report contributions in
[3:43:47] aggregate that exceed a hundred it's not
[3:43:49] a loophole it's not a loophole at all
[3:43:53] um so
[3:43:55] what if I were on my on my I'm sorry I'm
[3:43:59] sorry I just want to make sure because
[3:44:00] this light is still on so I want to make
[3:44:01] sure he's concluded oh he'll defer uh
[3:44:04] vice mayor
[3:44:06] so what would prevent a candidate from
[3:44:10] listing
[3:44:11] like in the example that I gave 10 99
[3:44:14] Anonymous donations
[3:44:18] Mr Salazar
[3:44:20] the same restrictions from the state
[3:44:23] from the fppc that currently prevent
[3:44:25] them from doing it it's it's it's
[3:44:27] already state law
[3:44:30] is the so I guess that's the question
[3:44:32] for the City attorney is the state law
[3:44:33] you can't receive a single donation of a
[3:44:38] hundred dollars a single Anonymous
[3:44:39] donation of honor others or more or they
[3:44:42] address aggregate donations from the
[3:44:44] same doors or if it's aggregate I'm
[3:44:45] asking the City attorney
[3:44:50] mayor Medina and council member Hamilton
[3:44:53] the state law prohibits aggregate
[3:44:56] donations from a single Source uh in
[3:44:59] excess 100 or more and so that's
[3:45:03] you know that and and the
[3:45:06] state law prohibits Anonymous donations
[3:45:09] of a hundred dollars or more uh so
[3:45:14] impliedly there is a requirement to make
[3:45:18] sure your traffic must happen
[3:45:22] right and that that I I see no harm in
[3:45:26] making that clear because that's
[3:45:29] certainly not
[3:45:30] crystal clear in the way that it's it is
[3:45:33] through the state I see no harm in
[3:45:35] making it clear we don't want if we
[3:45:37] don't want
[3:45:38] Anonymous donations
[3:45:40] then we shouldn't want Anonymous
[3:45:42] donations let's just say so
[3:45:45] now I'm just thinking that I mean if
[3:45:46] somebody gave you a 50 check
[3:45:49] you have a categorization and form four
[3:45:51] six that you have to report it you don't
[3:45:53] have to use the name once you get to the
[3:45:54] 100 of course they have need to know
[3:45:56] your name your occupation whether you're
[3:45:58] retired whether you're not that's the
[3:45:59] way the law is
[3:46:02] um so when we keep saying Anonymous so
[3:46:04] somebody gives a a young person
[3:46:07] at school elementary school gives you a
[3:46:09] dollar
[3:46:11] now you need to get all the data
[3:46:13] just as an example and a young person a
[3:46:16] minor could do that
[3:46:18] so that's where I'm I'm going with the
[3:46:20] we have a state law that already
[3:46:22] mandates in the aggregate so uh Mr uh
[3:46:25] councilmember Medina I'm sorry you
[3:46:26] didn't have the button on yeah
[3:46:28] I'll go in and push the button
[3:46:32] um
[3:46:33] so we're kind of getting in the weeds a
[3:46:35] little bit I could go either way just so
[3:46:38] that we passed this tonight
[3:46:40] um if you did get the one dollar
[3:46:41] contribution you don't have to report it
[3:46:43] and give the kid's name but you have to
[3:46:45] keep that in mind if it did get up to
[3:46:49] over a hundred so
[3:46:51] to make it absolutely clear intent to
[3:46:54] make the main part is the 500 limit but
[3:46:57] I do think that we need we do need to
[3:47:00] have consequences which is why
[3:47:03] um there has to be some penalty in there
[3:47:05] otherwise somebody could go ahead and
[3:47:08] exceed it and then there's no penalty
[3:47:09] why even half the ordinance and Mr
[3:47:12] Salazar thank you and I agree with uh
[3:47:14] council member Medina and that it can't
[3:47:17] be comprised of the infraction that
[3:47:18] there would be a corresponding fine and
[3:47:20] it appears to me that we are going
[3:47:22] beyond that and saying that now it's event I I really understood this
[3:47:27] whole attempt to be a way to level the
[3:47:31] playing field for new candidates and I
[3:47:34] believe that if we're making this more
[3:47:36] and you know we also just since I have
[3:47:39] the mic since I have the floor you know
[3:47:41] we we say in this that um you know it's
[3:47:44] people into the shadows and and I I
[3:47:46] think of an example that happened uh
[3:47:49] recently where there was a candidate for
[3:47:52] a state office tribute that not pack was
[3:47:55] solely dedicated to uh promoting their
[3:47:58] campaign
[3:47:59] and that it didn't have limits
[3:48:02] and so if we you know if if this is
[3:48:05] really intended to level the playing
[3:48:07] field we could potentially be uh
[3:48:10] allowing people with connections to
[3:48:13] powerful packs
[3:48:15] to actually have a leg up over anybody
[3:48:17] because now uh our friends and neighbors
[3:48:21] are limited at 500
[3:48:24] people who are contributing to a pack
[3:48:26] they can do one one-time contributions
[3:48:29] that are at the state limit and that's a
[3:48:32] lot higher than anything we're allowing
[3:48:33] in fact it's interesting to see that the
[3:48:36] increase from last year to this year is
[3:48:39] more than our overall limit for a single
[3:48:41] contribution so
[3:48:43] um and we're also saying our ours won't
[3:48:46] automatically increase like the states
[3:48:47] does so we're going to if you have a
[3:48:49] concern that incumbents have a mechanism
[3:48:52] for keeping new uh candidates out all
[3:48:56] they have to do is freeze those dollars
[3:48:57] they're already sitting in the seat so
[3:48:59] they got it easy and now you're limiting
[3:49:01] their ability to raise money so these
[3:49:04] are unintended consequences I believe
[3:49:06] I'm not I'm not opposed to the Limit
[3:49:09] um
[3:49:10] it it's certainly you know in my
[3:49:12] experience and everyone posted that poor
[3:49:14] portion of it but it does seem that we
[3:49:16] are we're creating
[3:49:18] some other issues that were not intended
[3:49:21] and in some cases may run contrary to
[3:49:24] the spirit of what we had hoped to do by
[3:49:26] modernizing our Our Kind our campaign uh
[3:49:30] limits
[3:49:33] and I'll just say is there any members
[3:49:34] of the public that wish to speak on this
[3:49:38] I do not have any speaker cards and no
[3:49:40] remote hands are raised thank you very
[3:49:42] much so we'll bring it back to council
[3:49:44] uh for any action or does it need to go
[3:49:48] back or there were two options that were
[3:49:50] placed uh I don't know if it's
[3:49:52] I think we've got it unless it needs to
[3:49:54] because of the hour place back on the
[3:49:56] board but is there any direction or act
[3:49:58] I guess action by Council does it mean
[3:50:00] or Direction
[3:50:02] you're the mayor uh yes vice mayor thank
[3:50:04] you
[3:50:05] I would like to make a motion to
[3:50:08] um uh introduce the ordinance as read by
[3:50:11] the clerk
[3:50:13] I I didn't I didn't the last part I
[3:50:15] didn't quite hear I'm sorry I'm sorry I
[3:50:18] would like to make it I would like I'm
[3:50:20] basically following what's what's listed
[3:50:22] in the uh in the packet under the
[3:50:23] recommendation
[3:50:25] um introduce the ordinance as read by
[3:50:27] the clerk
[3:50:31] I can read the whole thing if you want
[3:50:33] no we don't need to read I just want to
[3:50:34] clarify for the colleagues because I
[3:50:36] think just so we're on the same page
[3:50:37] that's with everything right yes
[3:50:39] everything that's been discussed whether
[3:50:41] you have one side or the other is how it
[3:50:44] is um I've addressed my concerns
[3:50:47] um and I think everybody understands so
[3:50:48] uh with that it is a roll call so roll
[3:50:51] call please
[3:50:54] thank you very much
[3:50:56] I apologize
[3:50:58] um is there a second on the motion is
[3:51:00] there a second on the motion
[3:51:03] I've heard none hence it has died due to
[3:51:06] counsel
[3:51:07] councilmember Salazar who's the chair I know that staff has already spent a
[3:51:11] lot of time on this and I I do believe
[3:51:13] it would be uh approproving it and to we
[3:51:18] want to say anything I don't
[3:51:20] um for it to keep on going up with
[3:51:22] inflation so pumper must do address
[3:51:25] um councilman salazarus can what would
[3:51:28] be acceptable for you um for us to
[3:51:32] structure this where there are no
[3:51:34] additional paint
[3:51:36] um and and if we can do that without
[3:51:38] imposing additional penalties scare a
[3:51:40] lot of people and having
[3:51:42] individuals have that ability to sue you
[3:51:45] know who's who's going to come after
[3:51:46] them so
[3:51:50] um
[3:51:51] yeah I mean we still have to rely a
[3:51:54] little bit on on people's honor why
[3:51:57] don't we
[3:51:58] as this is can you formulate an emotion
[3:52:02] unless because I think you've placed
[3:52:04] what what it is and I think that's what
[3:52:05] councilmember Medina was saying okay
[3:52:07] what will it take oh I'm sorry yes
[3:52:09] City's Journey so mayor Medina just to
[3:52:11] help move this along if if the issue is
[3:52:15] this litigation component or
[3:52:18] um administrative fine then it would we
[3:52:22] could uh you could make a motion to
[3:52:24] approve the ordinance
[3:52:27] um with Section uh
[3:52:30] 2.33.100 deleted which is the the
[3:52:34] section which provides for injunction
[3:52:37] and other court actions
[3:52:43] or through the mayor I just was quickly
[3:52:46] going back and reading through that I
[3:52:47] would be supportive of that
[3:52:50] thank you in order to get to a
[3:52:52] compromise
[3:52:53] um thank you um and then there was
[3:52:55] another item uh the uh customer sales to
[3:52:58] strike the um the tracking
[3:53:00] sentence
[3:53:04] go ahead I'm sorry I'm okay with leaving
[3:53:05] that in so um
[3:53:09] yeah if if we can agree to drop the the
[3:53:14] section that the City attorney just
[3:53:15] referred to
[3:53:17] um
[3:53:18] I guess I would be supportive of of that
[3:53:22] um that that to me was probably the
[3:53:24] biggest concern do you want the
[3:53:26] inflation 500 limit to go up
[3:53:30] as with the with inflation so we don't
[3:53:32] have to worry about it 20 years from now
[3:53:36] okay
[3:53:37] uh and so back to staff how difficult
[3:53:40] would it be to Peg that to some index
[3:53:43] that would make sense
[3:53:47] wouldn't be difficult at all we have
[3:53:49] fees annually that increase by inflation
[3:53:51] and we would simply do that annually or
[3:53:55] in in this case
[3:53:57] um uh biannually when there's an
[3:53:59] election and so I think the intent
[3:54:01] increases
[3:54:03] before the next election
[3:54:09] okay well then I I will make a revised
[3:54:12] motion then to uh
[3:54:14] approve uh what's in front of us uh with
[3:54:17] the exception of the section that the
[3:54:20] City attorney referred to which would
[3:54:23] impose those uh which would allow for
[3:54:25] additional uh litigation against
[3:54:28] candidates and also with the revision
[3:54:31] that there would be a uh adjustment an
[3:54:34] annual adjustment to the to the Limit
[3:54:39] and one and and I know we'll let's see
[3:54:41] if there's a second first I'll second
[3:54:43] that and with that let's go to the City
[3:54:44] attorney for clarification and make sure
[3:54:46] we're on the same page yeah mayor Medina
[3:54:48] I guess um when we get into a little
[3:54:50] more Drafting and the CPI and things
[3:54:53] like that
[3:54:55] um perhaps it would be better to come
[3:54:56] back with a new ordinance rather than
[3:54:59] trying to do this drafting on the spot I
[3:55:03] should have had you about 20 minutes ago
[3:55:04] because what I'm also feeling and I've
[3:55:07] learned long lessons is when you get to
[3:55:09] the 11 o'clock hour and you have elected
[3:55:11] bodies making decisions sometimes that
[3:55:13] may not be the best time so to have
[3:55:15] fresh eyes uh I I'm going to suggest and
[3:55:18] recommend to colleagues that we do with
[3:55:21] the city attorney recommended is that
[3:55:23] all right yeah we have a first on the
[3:55:25] second on the floor so we'd have to
[3:55:26] rescind that
[3:55:30] uh so and I'm willing to
[3:55:33] I just want to make sure we're following
[3:55:34] the rules right so uh City attorney is
[3:55:37] that okay if they uh pull back and
[3:55:40] withdraw the motion in the second and
[3:55:42] then give you direction if there's
[3:55:44] concurrence
[3:55:46] absolutely fine city manager I just want
[3:55:48] to clarify that direction so in the
[3:55:52] section
[3:55:56] 2.33.030 that includes an Express
[3:55:59] requirement to track Contra injunct
[3:56:02] injunction and Court action section
[3:56:06] 2.33 point
[3:56:08] and staff will come back at a subsequent
[3:56:10] meeting that is that's how I understand
[3:56:13] perfect thank you and is uh if there's
[3:56:15] concurrence by council is that suffice
[3:56:18] Alvarez I think at this hour that is
[3:56:20] always safe
[3:56:22] um we have passed 11. so with that
[3:56:25] um we have still one item of conduct and
[3:56:27] we have Council comments so action to
[3:56:29] continue now since we've hit the 11
[3:56:31] o'clock hour Mr Salazar through the
[3:56:33] chair I will make a motion that we
[3:56:34] extend for another hour
[3:56:36] I was going to say midnight but okay for
[3:56:38] one hour that's the motion is there a
[3:56:40] second
[3:56:41] my second second to
[3:56:44] um extend for one hour roll call please
[3:56:47] Hamilton
[3:56:48] yes mayor Rico Medina yes
[3:56:51] motion passes 5-0 We are continuing all
[3:56:54] right with that let's move on to Item B
[3:56:55] please
[3:56:57] item 9B repo receive report and confirm
[3:57:01] appointment of city council members to
[3:57:02] serve as representatives and alternates
[3:57:04] to San Mateo County agencies and other
[3:57:07] Regional bodies
[3:57:09] I will now share my screen thank you
[3:57:16] and let me know if you can see that okay
[3:57:19] oh
[3:57:21] you're gonna enlarge it at all
[3:57:23] it might I mean I have in front of me
[3:57:26] but am I thinking for others
[3:57:33] all right
[3:57:35] is that okay
[3:57:48] oh so then I need some minutes
[3:57:52] hide it how do I hide
[3:58:01] okay we are ready if you are yes city
[3:58:18] clerk good evening mayor and council
[3:58:20] members in January of every year we
[3:58:22] appoint council members to serve as
[3:58:24] representatives to various San Mateo
[3:58:26] County agencies and other Regional
[3:58:28] bodies The Matrix before you shows all
[3:58:30] of the county and Regional agencies the
[3:58:33] council serves on throughout the year
[3:58:34] with the exception of the San Mateo
[3:58:36] Mosquito Abatement District Robert Regal
[3:58:39] was appointed by the city council to
[3:58:41] serve on the San Mateo Mosquito
[3:58:43] Abatement district and his term expires
[3:58:46] in December of 2024.
[3:58:48] in 2022 city manager Javon Grogan served
[3:58:52] as representative on the coma Creek
[3:58:54] flood control district
[3:58:56] I'd like to point out that although some
[3:58:59] of the bodies do not require alternates
[3:59:02] we believe it would be potentially
[3:59:04] beneficial to just go ahead and appoint
[3:59:06] one to each body
[3:59:08] and our recommendation here today is
[3:59:10] that Council filled the open vacant
[3:59:12] seats and confirm appointment of the
[3:59:14] city council members to serve as
[3:59:16] representatives and alternates to the
[3:59:18] cemetery San Mateo County agencies and
[3:59:20] other Regional bodies
[3:59:23] okay with that um you see it on the
[3:59:25] screen and I know with the lateness of
[3:59:27] the hour
[3:59:28] um so
[3:59:30] um
[3:59:31] I'm gonna maybe start it off then I'll
[3:59:32] try to speed it up
[3:59:34] um there are things uh and also by the
[3:59:36] way Boscov for example vice mayor
[3:59:39] Hamilton was already reappointed and
[3:59:41] they do it in a different fashion and I
[3:59:43] believe they do not uh require or allow
[3:59:46] alternates to that case excuse me so
[3:59:50] with that there's the airport Community
[3:59:52] Roundtable
[3:59:54] um uh there is an opening has desired to
[3:59:58] have it asked if another colleague would
[4:00:01] be willing to take that are there any
[4:00:04] um suggestions or volunteers uh council
[4:00:08] member Alvarez through Richard thank you
[4:00:11] um Mr Mayor
[4:00:13] um Airport Community Roundtable is a
[4:00:16] very interesting and I think it will be
[4:00:18] a very challenging committee but I will
[4:00:21] step up and volunteer to be a primary
[4:00:24] this is interesting because when I used
[4:00:27] to work at the building counter we have
[4:00:30] very limited information to give to the
[4:00:33] residents regarding noise mitigation
[4:00:36] with the airport that being said to be
[4:00:39] the primary representative for this
[4:00:41] committee
[4:00:42] it would be a privilege for me to learn
[4:00:47] more and to provide more information to
[4:00:49] the community
[4:00:51] well I appreciate that and I don't know
[4:00:54] if I need to ask council member Medina
[4:00:55] or Hamilton if you would disagree with
[4:00:57] that statement or
[4:00:59] it's a it's a little loud on that Round
[4:01:02] Table
[4:01:03] um it's a little frustrating honestly
[4:01:06] that okay you're good but I'll stop it's
[4:01:08] late so so congratulations
[4:01:12] so uh but you know
[4:01:15] I
[4:01:16] know you're aware you probably have
[4:01:18] heard things about it but for you to
[4:01:20] come forward and I think all of us can
[4:01:23] say thank you
[4:01:24] um you know if maybe I'll just try to
[4:01:27] speed this up so let's go down just to
[4:01:30] the the primary for uh coma Creek the
[4:01:33] reason I had that open is because we've
[4:01:35] had the city manager do it it's four
[4:01:37] times a year
[4:01:38] um it's not it's a quarterly basis
[4:01:41] um it's in South San Francisco we don't
[4:01:43] need to have it now I check they don't
[4:01:44] meet for a little bit we can bring that
[4:01:46] back but that was my intent he's been
[4:01:48] willing to do it because other city
[4:01:49] managers do it but we want to be
[4:01:51] valuable to his time the next one down
[4:01:54] so we can come back the next time is
[4:01:56] home for all what I'd like to ask is for
[4:01:59] the primary to be uh council member
[4:02:01] Alvarez the alternate to be council
[4:02:03] member of Medina
[4:02:05] for the heart I'd like to ask council
[4:02:07] member Medina to be the primary I'd like
[4:02:09] an alternate for um
[4:02:12] council member Alvarez on the league of
[4:02:14] California City's Peninsula division I'd
[4:02:17] like the primary to be
[4:02:20] vice mayor Hamilton there is not a
[4:02:23] requirement to have an alternate though
[4:02:26] others are welcome to attend if people
[4:02:29] were already listed on there because
[4:02:31] some of them serve an executive as an
[4:02:33] example on YouTube councilmember
[4:02:35] Medina's on PC but he's also on the
[4:02:36] board and so I would not want to have I
[4:02:39] think continuity is important and I
[4:02:40] wouldn't want to jeopardize anybody who
[4:02:42] has those those positions going to the
[4:02:45] alternate positions and I do understand
[4:02:47] that there may be desire others want as
[4:02:51] an example in a bag or others we can
[4:02:53] work on that
[4:02:54] on the alternates I think I've expressed
[4:02:59] on pce I'd like to have vice mayor
[4:03:02] Hamilton on that I think I already
[4:03:04] talked about heart and I think I've
[4:03:05] already talked about home for all on the
[4:03:08] other alternates it's not applicable on
[4:03:11] the San Mateo County of cities that is a
[4:03:14] proxy that goes to whoever is available
[4:03:17] the mayor just says at this meeting
[4:03:20] ex-person will go ahead and do it like I
[4:03:22] said we didn't need one for the league
[4:03:24] cities that's an n a and that leaves me
[4:03:28] Creek which we'll come back to and then
[4:03:30] Bosco which is not to my knowledge last
[4:03:32] I was told was not permitted airport
[4:03:34] Roundtable I think it's amongst us who
[4:03:37] would want to be the alternate they meet
[4:03:39] six times a year the
[4:03:42] jpals which is the ambulance one that
[4:03:46] meets quarterly
[4:03:48] um and then the bay uh a bag those are
[4:03:51] the ones that um I think that if there's
[4:03:54] any volunteers we deal with tonight if
[4:03:56] not they can be held because of the late
[4:03:58] hour I just rambled a lot so I'll leave
[4:04:01] it to anybody who wants to say something
[4:04:03] or we can again
[4:04:04] speak to next time
[4:04:09] I'm sorry vice mayor
[4:04:12] um you can put me down as the alternate
[4:04:13] for the rounded for the airport
[4:04:15] Roundtable happy to I'm happy to be um
[4:04:18] council member Alvarez is back up on
[4:04:20] that one vice mayor
[4:04:22] thank you
[4:04:23] uh councilman Medina
[4:04:25] he's a glutton for punishment yes he is
[4:04:28] uh it's just it's the alternate
[4:04:30] that's right
[4:04:31] um Mr Mayor if
[4:04:33] um if
[4:04:34] our city manager doesn't mind me taking
[4:04:36] Colma Creek I'll I'll do that
[4:04:41] okay thank you
[4:04:43] I think it'd be interesting honestly
[4:04:46] um yeah I was actually thinking about it
[4:04:48] as well I can be I can be a council
[4:04:51] members alternate on that one as well
[4:04:53] thank you
[4:04:57] um
[4:05:01] no that one's oh the that's it for the
[4:05:04] other buddies on a pointed by the city
[4:05:06] and I have to look more into that
[4:05:07] because
[4:05:08] yeah so we're good on that
[4:05:10] um I'm gonna say
[4:05:12] um really the only thing is is for now
[4:05:14] the a bag and the ALS and people can
[4:05:16] just uh get to me
[4:05:18] um unless there's anybody who wants to
[4:05:19] do that now it's not a one only meets a
[4:05:22] couple times another one meets four
[4:05:23] times so I think we're fine
[4:05:25] um but anyway we can always come back
[4:05:27] but it's not required to have alternates
[4:05:29] uh
[4:05:30] yes I'm sorry I can volunteer for
[4:05:32] alternate for the ABAC a bag or ALS o
[4:05:36] make sure okay
[4:05:41] we have a Mr salazaro secondary on ALS
[4:05:44] and uh Alvarez on a bag
[4:05:47] um I think we've just connected that did
[4:05:49] I talk too quick City Clerk or well Mr
[4:05:52] Mayor yeah yes I I wanted to offer um
[4:05:56] council member Alvarez to to be the
[4:05:58] primary if you'd like they don't meet
[4:06:00] very often
[4:06:01] just that um
[4:06:03] I taking on a couple other things
[4:06:07] and I'd be happy to be the alternate
[4:06:09] just to kind of like switch that if I'm
[4:06:11] sorry what committee is just to do the a
[4:06:13] bag oh the a bag okay sure yeah it's a
[4:06:17] good way to meet a lot of people all the
[4:06:20] electives in the uh
[4:06:21] across the counties okay yeah thank you
[4:06:24] I think uh uh I'm sorry city clerk
[4:06:27] because she's previously typing his word
[4:06:29] moving the chat the checkerboard here
[4:06:32] if we could please share the screen so
[4:06:35] that everyone could review and make sure
[4:06:37] that I captured everything correctly
[4:06:39] that would be greatly appreciated
[4:06:45] okay and let me let me know when you'd
[4:06:49] like me to scroll
[4:07:02] I'll scroll down a bit
[4:07:05] does everybody think it it reflects what
[4:07:07] we heard once you get home through the
[4:07:10] mayor I think I I
[4:07:12] um I should be listed on row 15 for
[4:07:14] peninsula clean energy
[4:07:17] yes and I'm the alternate on home for
[4:07:20] all of that right you're correct okay
[4:07:21] let me home for all
[4:07:35] everybody's that look correct with those
[4:07:37] modifications thank you for everybody's
[4:07:39] eyes that are better than mine
[4:07:42] good good okay with that as you now see
[4:07:46] it before you uh is there um
[4:07:51] a motion
[4:07:54] well now with our new rules we need a
[4:07:57] motion we didn't before so moved uh we
[4:08:00] have a motion from uh councilman Medina
[4:08:03] second in from vice mayor Hamilton
[4:08:04] correct and uh
[4:08:08] council member Alvarez yes council
[4:08:11] member Marty Medina yes council member
[4:08:13] Salazar yes vice mayor Hamilton
[4:08:16] yes mayor Rico Medina yes
[4:08:21] um okay okay
[4:08:22] thank you everybody
[4:08:24] and um may I say too if there's any
[4:08:27] calendars from these bodies so let's go
[4:08:31] through this my my understanding too and
[4:08:34] you're right I I didn't ask if is there
[4:08:35] any public comment
[4:08:37] uh on this that's what you get when I
[4:08:38] sit here yeah
[4:08:40] but no hands were raised and there are
[4:08:43] no hands raised now okay thank you
[4:08:46] um but uh let's just to be clear then
[4:08:48] the city clerk's office would go ahead
[4:08:50] and notify the agencies of the
[4:08:52] particular appointments so that they're
[4:08:54] aware I would ask colleagues when you
[4:08:56] get a calendar of dates if if and when
[4:08:59] you do please give that to to the
[4:09:02] clerk's office just so we can update the
[4:09:03] SB calendar and that we all know what
[4:09:05] we're doing and where we're going so
[4:09:07] it's easier for staff to see that our
[4:09:10] availability
[4:09:11] is that okay all right I didn't ask the
[4:09:14] city clerk before I said that
[4:09:15] um okay let's move on to council uh
[4:09:18] comments from comments from council
[4:09:20] members and also there's not a committee
[4:09:22] report uh under right now so if there
[4:09:25] are any I would appreciate if you could
[4:09:27] please put that
[4:09:29] um under your comments when you're
[4:09:30] called and uh that'll be
[4:09:33] um put on the next one so with that we
[4:09:36] will start with item a uh council member
[4:09:40] Sandy Alvarez request to discuss
[4:09:42] re-establishment of beautification task
[4:09:44] force committee
[4:09:46] council member Salazar if you can kindly
[4:09:49] pass that along thank you
[4:09:52] the beautification task force committee
[4:09:54] was originally established by our former
[4:09:56] council member Irene O'Connell it
[4:09:59] supports and Advocates the public Arts
[4:10:01] policy tree ordinances and other Council
[4:10:04] policies that encourage the
[4:10:06] beautification of the city the task
[4:10:09] force also organizes several Citywide
[4:10:11] events including operation Clean Sweep
[4:10:14] held the first Saturday in May each year
[4:10:17] and the beautification awards they also
[4:10:20] serve in an advisory capacity to the
[4:10:22] city council that said my request to
[4:10:25] re-establish The View sorry the
[4:10:28] beautification task force would be a
[4:10:30] continuation of how the committee was
[4:10:33] structured
[4:10:34] the goals of the beautification task
[4:10:36] force are to educate the community about
[4:10:39] enhancing and protecting San Bruno's
[4:10:42] environmental assets to promote the
[4:10:44] quality of life in San Bruno by creating
[4:10:47] supporting and participating in
[4:10:49] activities and programs that improve the
[4:10:52] physical and aesthetic environment of
[4:10:54] our community
[4:10:56] Advocate a high standard of community responsibility cleanliness
[4:11:01] maintenance and attractiveness for our
[4:11:04] developed and natural environment last to Mentor neighborhood
[4:11:09] and city-wide cleanups
[4:11:12] how we can achieve these goals
[4:11:15] promote community activities like
[4:11:17] city-wide cleanups Earth Day activities
[4:11:19] beautification Awards and similar
[4:11:22] programs community outreach to volunteer
[4:11:25] and or participate in local activities
[4:11:28] encourage community members to be
[4:11:30] proactive on monitoring neighborhood
[4:11:34] and last
[4:11:36] thank you for your comments thank you
[4:11:38] for the handout
[4:11:40] and so what it has I'm sorry it was
[4:11:43] asking for
[4:11:45] um
[4:11:46] the discussion for re-establishment of
[4:11:48] the beautification task force committee
[4:11:51] which I know there's a lot of when I say
[4:11:53] a lot that's but it's wrong what I mean
[4:11:56] by that is is it a standing committee is
[4:11:58] it under the brown act those are things
[4:12:00] that would need to be vetted right so
[4:12:02] that we have it structured correctly but
[4:12:04] with that I'll open up to my colleagues
[4:12:06] councilman Medina yes I would be
[4:12:09] appropriate to discuss that so I am in
[4:12:11] support of this and the way it used to
[4:12:13] exist but maybe if we could add some
[4:12:15] additional structure to it uh we could
[4:12:17] definitely fortify there is still one
[4:12:19] reference to it in the municipal code so
[4:12:21] uh it's a good thing we're bringing it
[4:12:23] back so I am in support uh vice mayor
[4:12:26] Hamilton any comment
[4:12:28] I agree with both both comments that so
[4:12:31] far and I'm I don't know if you have an
[4:12:33] extra one or I can use mine I can hand
[4:12:35] it over to staff that's okay so that
[4:12:37] they have the basis in which to or thank
[4:12:38] you councilmember Medina oh he and she
[4:12:41] has an extra
[4:12:42] um if that can be done so that and
[4:12:43] presented and so we are looking for the
[4:12:46] discussion with the handout that has now
[4:12:48] been presented to staff for uh how they
[4:12:52] can uh put that together
[4:12:55] uh to bring it back with that caveat of
[4:12:58] Staff involvement uh Brown act standing
[4:13:02] committee those type of elements is that
[4:13:04] fair city manager absolutely mayor we
[4:13:06] still need to go through the appointment
[4:13:08] of city council members to various
[4:13:10] standing and ad hoc committees and so
[4:13:12] when we discuss that item uh staff will
[4:13:15] bring this item forward and I think uh
[4:13:17] we can give some thoughts on how to more
[4:13:20] formalize it and align it to our
[4:13:22] structure but uh certainly we will do
[4:13:24] that and support that process if so
[4:13:27] directed which I'm assuming because
[4:13:30] everybody there was no roll call one but
[4:13:32] I I thought I heard General concurrence
[4:13:34] to direct staff to bring this back at
[4:13:37] um subsequently and we will aim to do
[4:13:40] that when we appoint council members to
[4:13:43] the various standing and adult
[4:13:44] committees okay thank you
[4:13:47] um with that um the way the new rules
[4:13:49] work I mean even though the mayor just
[4:13:51] real I'm sorry go ahead I'm sorry to
[4:13:53] interrupt uh just if someone can send me
[4:13:55] a copy of the handout that would be
[4:13:57] great
[4:13:57] since I can't grab it
[4:13:59] physically
[4:14:02] oh oh yes okay yes we'll do that it's
[4:14:04] going to be done right now
[4:14:07] vice mayor Hamilton I can email you a
[4:14:10] copy Perfect all right I appreciate that
[4:14:13] thank you thank you uh but I think under
[4:14:15] the new policies and procedures uh
[4:14:17] though you have a total Five-0
[4:14:19] concurrence we have to have a vote an
[4:14:20] emotion
[4:14:22] so
[4:14:23] um so moved
[4:14:25] okay uh motion Medina seconded uh
[4:14:28] Salazar roll call please
[4:14:34] councilmember Alvarez
[4:14:37] councilmember Marty Medina yes council
[4:14:40] member Salazar yes vice mayor Hamilton
[4:14:43] yes mayor Rico Medina yes
[4:14:46] uh passes 5-0 and at this time
[4:14:48] councilmember Alvarez is there anything
[4:14:50] else under comments that you would like
[4:14:52] to offer this evening you don't have to
[4:14:55] but if there is this would be the
[4:14:56] opportunity not at this point Thank you very much thank you for that
[4:14:59] let's move on to Item B uh council
[4:15:02] member Salazar request to discuss
[4:15:04] revisions to existing cannabis
[4:15:06] regulations including zoning number of
[4:15:08] allowed businesses and the process for
[4:15:11] awarding permits council member Salazar
[4:15:13] thank you Mr Mayor I I actually did have
[4:15:16] some things written out but given the
[4:15:17] late hour and being that I don't want to
[4:15:19] use up our hour extension I am going to
[4:15:22] limit this to my request for support
[4:15:26] from the council to ask staff to bring
[4:15:28] back a revised ordinance or ordinances
[4:15:31] if required that would modify our
[4:15:35] current uh
[4:15:36] our current zoning our current uh
[4:15:42] limit on the number of dispensaries in
[4:15:45] the city
[4:15:46] and uh also the process by which permits
[4:15:51] uh or licenses would be
[4:15:54] assigned
[4:15:57] um
[4:15:59] so I I mean I could I could go into some
[4:16:02] other details but as I said given the
[4:16:04] delayed hour I really just want uh an
[4:16:06] opportunity for this to come back
[4:16:08] um my intent is to limit the number of
[4:16:11] uh
[4:16:13] of areas within the city where it's
[4:16:15] permitted and to reduce the number of
[4:16:18] licenses that are issued
[4:16:25] um
[4:16:26] yeah yes is there any questions or uh
[4:16:30] questions from colleagues in regards to
[4:16:32] council member salazarus
[4:16:36] councilman sure
[4:16:38] so
[4:16:40] how does this affect what we're
[4:16:44] it's totally going to revise it so I'm
[4:16:45] looking over at the
[4:16:46] um for our
[4:16:48] staff to kind of chime in on
[4:16:51] this
[4:16:53] city manager sure and thank you
[4:16:58] councilmember Medina and we were just
[4:17:01] having a little side conversation here I
[4:17:03] think we were we would need
[4:17:04] clarification and specifics to bring
[4:17:07] back a revised ordinance uh what I in
[4:17:10] lieu of doing that I think what we can
[4:17:12] do is agenda is a discussion amongst the
[4:17:15] city council if so moved by the majority
[4:17:18] of council here tonight and based on
[4:17:20] that discussion
[4:17:22] um I think Council should provide clear
[4:17:24] Direction on revisions to the ordinance
[4:17:26] and on regulations if uh if so desired
[4:17:30] and then we would then draft those have
[4:17:32] them reviewed of course by staff and our
[4:17:35] City attorney and then schedule it at a
[4:17:37] subsequent council meeting for adoption
[4:17:42] um or first reading right and and given
[4:17:45] that uh there is a process uh that's
[4:17:48] already put in place and that I don't
[4:17:50] want to run afoul of any anything that's happening I did want to expedite
[4:17:54] and so I can provide specifics of what I
[4:17:57] would be requesting if that would
[4:17:58] facilitate bringing back an ordinance
[4:18:00] that could then be discussed modified at
[4:18:03] a meeting rather than having an open
[4:18:04] discussion that would then lead to the
[4:18:07] presentation of an ordinance that would
[4:18:09] then have to come back for two readings
[4:18:10] so very specifically I could tell you
[4:18:13] that my intent is to remove downtown and
[4:18:16] tan Fran from the uh the zoning that's approved currently and it is also
[4:18:22] my intent to reduce the number of
[4:18:24] businesses from the four down to two uh
[4:18:29] where one of them would be required to
[4:18:31] be a delivery service and one could be a
[4:18:34] potential retail or they could both be
[4:18:37] delivery services and
[4:18:40] um
[4:18:41] and I I would like I would I would limit
[4:18:43] it to that
[4:18:47] I see manager is that what you're
[4:18:48] looking for
[4:18:53] I think that if Council support here
[4:18:55] tonight uh to bring that back and we
[4:18:57] would uh look to schedule that
[4:18:59] discussion with that revised ordinance
[4:19:02] that I believe has to occur at a regular
[4:19:04] meeting if there is a direction from the
[4:19:07] city council to do that expeditiously we
[4:19:10] would calendar that for the January 24th
[4:19:14] meeting which is your next regular
[4:19:15] meeting
[4:19:18] and I do think that we would need to do
[4:19:21] um notifications to very I I believe the
[4:19:24] interested parties list
[4:19:26] has an interested party list for our
[4:19:29] cannabis regulations I think um it would
[4:19:31] be an incumbent Upon Us inappropriate to
[4:19:33] send a notification uh to all of those
[4:19:36] individuals on that interested party
[4:19:38] list and anyone that we know has pulled
[4:19:43] an application or asked questions of uh
[4:19:46] staff in in the intention to develop an
[4:19:49] application and so we would provide
[4:19:51] those uh notice notifications that this
[4:19:54] would be discussed at the January does
[4:19:55] and reduce the number of allowable
[4:19:58] permits at the city could Grant to two
[4:20:02] one being delivery and the other being
[4:20:05] either delivery or retail or and or both
[4:20:08] correct correct
[4:20:14] I was just going to clarify that the
[4:20:16] Apple commercial cannabis operator
[4:20:19] permits application deadline has been
[4:20:22] set for next Tuesday
[4:20:25] so we would know by
[4:20:27] before the 24th who had submitted
[4:20:29] applications and we could also obviously
[4:20:31] inform that group anyone who had submit
[4:20:33] uh the permit and the information did
[4:20:36] make it very clear that the city council
[4:20:39] still reserves the right to award up to
[4:20:43] four or less than four and so should you
[4:20:45] make that change uh know that we we've
[4:20:49] talked we believe sufficient notice was
[4:20:51] provided that the city council has
[4:20:54] discretion now on how many permits you
[4:20:57] would issue
[4:20:59] uh councilman Medina
[4:21:02] yeah I'm a little concerned about the
[4:21:03] detail that we're going this is this is
[4:21:05] Council Commons and it should be we're
[4:21:08] getting way too specific that it's not
[4:21:10] agenda so I believe the way it's
[4:21:12] supposed to work is you say that you're
[4:21:16] going to have a discussion of the item
[4:21:18] like councilman councilwoman Alvarez
[4:21:22] just did but I think the specifics of
[4:21:24] what you're trying to do in in a
[4:21:27] non-agend diet the City attorney it's
[4:21:29] this isn't an agendized topic and we're
[4:21:31] getting into the specifics of the
[4:21:33] changes
[4:21:35] and I don't know if that I'm questioning
[4:21:37] if the if that's appropriate so there's
[4:21:40] a question on the process which has been
[4:21:43] established already but uh City attorney
[4:21:46] mayor Medina and council member Medina
[4:21:48] the
[4:21:49] um
[4:21:50] the city council's not actually taking
[4:21:51] action on these items what it's doing is
[4:21:53] giving direction to staff to come back
[4:21:55] with
[4:21:56] an agendized item that you will consider
[4:21:59] these changes to the
[4:22:02] um to the Cannabis ordinance at that
[4:22:04] point you will have the gender will
[4:22:07] provide you're just discussing
[4:22:10] um
[4:22:11] you're discussing revisions and
[4:22:14] directing staff to come back with uh
[4:22:17] with proposed changes that you will
[4:22:19] consider on a properly agendized meeting
[4:22:23] sure but the revisions are pretty
[4:22:25] detailed and
[4:22:28] um I'm not going to support this
[4:22:31] I think I think to have the study
[4:22:33] session to talk about it but to to
[4:22:36] manipulate it so that you can get it
[4:22:38] changed for another meeting I think I
[4:22:41] think that's beyond
[4:22:43] the intent that
[4:22:46] well I would only say that uh
[4:22:49] in in uh in the past Council comments
[4:22:54] were not agendized and we were
[4:22:56] prohibited from having open discussion
[4:22:58] and we would we were limited to
[4:23:00] providing direction to staff to bring
[4:23:02] something back but that changed that
[4:23:05] changed when uh we decided that we would
[4:23:08] agendize and basically spell out the
[4:23:11] action that we intended to take and so
[4:23:13] this this was agendized I think I was
[4:23:16] very clear in uh the topics that I
[4:23:18] intended to discuss and I I don't think
[4:23:21] it's inappropriate but I I am hoping
[4:23:23] that at least two of my colleagues will
[4:23:25] support uh letting this move forward
[4:23:30] city manager
[4:23:34] thank thank you
[4:23:35] mayor Medina just on this topic I do for
[4:23:40] me feel that the threshold line is we
[4:23:42] are not tonight discussing the merits of
[4:23:46] the changes that council member Salazar
[4:23:49] is asking to be discussed at a later
[4:23:52] meeting
[4:23:53] but Council and providing Clarity to
[4:23:57] staff on what his proposal is for that
[4:24:01] meeting to be
[4:24:02] and should there be majority concurrents
[4:24:06] I think staff would take that direction
[4:24:08] and say we have had a council member
[4:24:12] agenda is a topic that they would like
[4:24:15] to have their colleagues discuss they
[4:24:17] have clearly articulated what that topic
[4:24:19] is
[4:24:21] in a majority of council has provided
[4:24:23] direction to staff to agendize that that
[4:24:26] discussion and so we're not discussing
[4:24:29] the merits we're clearly just getting I
[4:24:31] think a clear understanding of what the
[4:24:34] council member would like discussed
[4:24:38] or we're working on now
[4:24:40] whether it's storm related all the other
[4:24:43] stuff that we're dealing with we're
[4:24:46] going to tell staff stop that and do
[4:24:48] this
[4:24:51] no that's okay you can say yes what yeah
[4:24:54] and what else want to make sure I
[4:24:55] understand number of ordinances and the
[4:24:57] resolutions that were put in place I'm
[4:24:59] not asking that everything be redone I'm
[4:25:01] not asking staff to do any additional
[4:25:02] work I'm asking for very specific
[4:25:04] changes to one or more ordinances if it
[4:25:07] crosses over into two ordinances I was
[4:25:09] very specific about what I requested
[4:25:10] this shouldn't take a lot of Staff time
[4:25:12] this is I I was very specific and it's
[4:25:15] very detailed so if if that you if you
[4:25:18] think that's going to derail other
[4:25:20] um or we try to do that we give
[4:25:22] direction from this body if there is a
[4:25:24] majority on what to do which this once
[4:25:27] this policy went into effect this
[4:25:29] Council has done that whether it's
[4:25:32] 504132 to say this is now a priority we
[4:25:35] want to bring this forward so but I I
[4:25:37] see the the city manager go ahead
[4:25:39] foreign
[4:25:42] [Music]
[4:25:49] I'm not reading the the language and
[4:25:52] your policies and procedures but we were
[4:25:55] very
[4:25:57] um
[4:25:57] clearing those discussions that if a
[4:26:01] item is requested to be brought back
[4:26:06] urgently immediately uh we staff asked
[4:26:10] that it that the council essentially
[4:26:12] make a determination that this is a very
[4:26:14] important
[4:26:15] item and we would like staff to
[4:26:17] prioritize it respecting that the
[4:26:20] manager or the City attorney has the
[4:26:22] ability to say hey I don't think that we
[4:26:24] can accomplish that or it will be
[4:26:27] council member Salazar articulate
[4:26:29] is because the applications are
[4:26:33] um
[4:26:34] processes open uh he feels that this is
[4:26:38] a urgent thing that he is requesting his
[4:26:40] support from his colleagues to direct
[4:26:43] staff to agenda's soon
[4:26:47] um
[4:26:48] I do believe that because it's it's
[4:26:51] amending ordinances that we've already
[4:26:53] drafted that with clear direction we can
[4:26:56] accomplish
[4:26:57] caveat beam
[4:27:00] if a major storm hits and we divert a
[4:27:02] bunch of attention right I I reserve the
[4:27:04] right to send counsel and email saying
[4:27:06] you know I X Y and Z has happened I
[4:27:09] don't think we'll be able to do that by
[4:27:10] the 24th we will do that
[4:27:13] um
[4:27:13] at another meeting
[4:27:15] I think with this item what also
[4:27:20] um
[4:27:21] we are talking a change to an ordinance
[4:27:24] that will require two readings that will
[4:27:28] um we need to sort of plan out all of
[4:27:31] that
[4:27:32] but if counsel is saying that this is a
[4:27:35] important item that you would like
[4:27:37] discuss soon
[4:27:38] I do believe that we can agendize that
[4:27:40] for the
[4:27:43] um January 24th date now if
[4:27:49] looking at the the schedule we we may
[4:27:51] want to say
[4:27:52] um we're going to push some of the
[4:27:54] regular business sort of up earlier or
[4:27:56] have a special meeting we still need to
[4:27:58] do that but but so to discuss it now we certainly need to do notifications to
[4:28:04] the interested party list
[4:28:06] and provide those
[4:28:08] um uh people that are currently actively
[4:28:11] submitting uh permits with that notice
[4:28:14] um and so we will expeditiously do that
[4:28:17] frankly uh beginning tomorrow morning if
[4:28:20] so directed by the by the city council
[4:28:22] of
[4:28:24] changing things around right that's my point
[4:28:27] so
[4:28:29] um I still think I'll just wait so thank
[4:28:32] you for that explanation that
[4:28:34] hopefully it doesn't storm too much and that it doesn't mean modifications
[4:28:37] can't be made at that time is that
[4:28:39] correct
[4:28:45] mayor Medina
[4:28:46] we would have an ordinance in front of
[4:28:48] you we'd have the same limitations that
[4:28:50] we would typically have with a nordics
[4:28:52] which is very difficult to modify draft
[4:28:55] an ordinance from the dice but
[4:28:57] we could make changes
[4:29:00] okay thank you as long as they were
[4:29:02] saying um I just want to ask
[4:29:04] councilmember Hamilton because I can't
[4:29:06] see oh there you go now I can see but I
[4:29:08] haven't been able to see it so I just I
[4:29:09] had a note here I'm just calling I've
[4:29:11] been waiting for the the this part of
[4:29:13] the conversation to end I I would have I
[4:29:15] would have through the mayor to my way
[4:29:16] in
[4:29:17] um so so my question would be that since
[4:29:20] the since the
[4:29:22] uh permit filing period is open with the
[4:29:24] deadline of next week if permit applications are received for
[4:29:32] potential
[4:29:34] businesses that are in the in the areas
[4:29:38] that are being proposed to be removed by
[4:29:41] ordinance what happens then I mean we
[4:29:44] would we
[4:29:46] what happens then
[4:29:48] so we've already got it we've already
[4:29:50] got it submitted uh
[4:29:52] um
[4:29:53] permit application for an area that's
[4:29:56] currently
[4:29:58] that by our rules are currently is is
[4:30:00] currently fine
[4:30:03] we would then go back to them and say oh
[4:30:06] sorry we're changing the rules
[4:30:10] foreign
[4:30:12] manager sir uh thank you uh council
[4:30:16] member uh Hamilton uh certainly
[4:30:19] there's the possibility that
[4:30:23] um
[4:30:25] we may receive an application by the due
[4:30:27] date of next Tuesday for
[4:30:30] um either downtown or
[4:30:34] tanfran and the majority of the council
[4:30:38] may decide uh to revise the ordinance to
[4:30:42] exempt those areas
[4:30:43] that would mean that we would need to
[4:30:45] look at our process and likely
[4:30:48] um I think we could obviously assume
[4:30:50] that someone that applied downtown will
[4:30:52] say hey I didn't have the opportunity to
[4:30:55] look at other areas because I thought
[4:30:57] that
[4:30:58] um this area that I was applying for
[4:31:00] would be allowed and so we would need to
[4:31:03] consider that I don't want to sort of
[4:31:05] proffer on the Fly what we would do but
[4:31:09] I but I I hearing the council member
[4:31:13] Salazar's request actually honestly for
[4:31:15] the first time tonight
[4:31:17] um I think we need to think that through
[4:31:19] and how we would modify the process
[4:31:22] what I would say and I I hesitate to say
[4:31:25] this that
[4:31:26] if it's supported by a majority of the
[4:31:28] council to look at this maybe that is
[4:31:31] one of the reasons why having this
[4:31:33] conversation sooner rather than later
[4:31:35] may be a good thing
[4:31:36] because we have people
[4:31:38] uh applying for a permit based on a set
[4:31:43] of criteria that the city council
[4:31:46] established
[4:31:48] if the city council is thinking about
[4:31:51] changing that criteria I don't know that
[4:31:53] to be the case but if
[4:31:55] um we should probably do that sooner
[4:31:58] rather than later
[4:31:59] and so
[4:32:02] if a majority of the council supports
[4:32:04] staff agendizing that and we would come
[4:32:08] back and have that discussion and again
[4:32:09] I think we would need to notify the
[4:32:14] um interested party list or anyone that
[4:32:16] has picked up an application or called
[4:32:18] in with a question to say hey I I'm
[4:32:20] looking at
[4:32:22] um your application packet that you
[4:32:25] submitted and so we would certainly do
[4:32:28] that if directed
[4:32:30] okay and and we do have a member of the
[4:32:32] public so I had a question but I want to
[4:32:35] uh please uh until as the hours late
[4:32:38] we have one remote hand raise Courtney I will be bringing you in
[4:32:45] Courtney you may begin whenever you're
[4:32:47] ready
[4:32:48] hi yes can you all hear me yes we can
[4:32:50] hear you all right thank you so much so
[4:32:53] um my name is Courtney Caron and I am a
[4:32:55] cannabis attorney who has specialized in
[4:33:00] um the merit-based application process
[4:33:02] for the last several years and what I'm
[4:33:05] hearing right now is is problematic to
[4:33:07] me excuse me and also causing me a
[4:33:10] little bit of stress because
[4:33:12] individuals who apply for these
[4:33:15] merit-based application processes spend
[4:33:17] a great deal of time and money preparing
[4:33:20] applications and part of of that process
[4:33:23] that you've implemented is having a
[4:33:25] property that is zoned correctly and
[4:33:28] just the entitlement of of getting that properly zoned property
[4:33:33] um you know can cost you know thousands
[4:33:36] upon thousands of dollars during this
[4:33:38] holding period of preparing the
[4:33:40] application and so if the city is
[4:33:42] actually considering the city council
[4:33:45] members are actually considering
[4:33:46] modifying the existing ordinance that
[4:33:49] has been used to create this merit-based
[4:33:52] process then frankly the merit-based
[4:33:54] process needs to be paused so that
[4:33:57] nobody is spending you know additional
[4:33:59] funds to prepare an application and
[4:34:01] submit it only to find out that the
[4:34:03] property that they have located in the
[4:34:05] application they have prepared is
[4:34:07] actually no longer going to be valid
[4:34:08] under an amended ordinance so
[4:34:11] um I really don't think it would be
[4:34:13] advantageous for the city to accept
[4:34:15] applications on the 17th if the city
[4:34:17] council does intend to review that
[4:34:19] ordinance because it is extremely unfair
[4:34:22] to all of the applicants who may fall in
[4:34:25] one of those those zones with a property
[4:34:27] that is is going to be amended and
[4:34:30] further I think you're going to find
[4:34:32] yourself in quite a bit of litigation if
[4:34:34] you do accept applications and then
[4:34:37] modify an ordinance that excludes people
[4:34:39] and then give those people you know an
[4:34:42] additional timeline to find a new
[4:34:44] property
[4:34:45] I believe you're going to have you know
[4:34:48] some real real issues with that just
[4:34:50] based off my experience with this
[4:34:51] merit-based application process in
[4:34:54] pretty much every city in the state of
[4:34:55] California that has had a merit-based
[4:34:57] application process so I would just
[4:35:00] caution accepting applications if the
[4:35:03] intent is actually to revise the
[4:35:06] ordinance and would strongly urge that that the city manager's office put
[4:35:10] a pause on this entire process until the
[4:35:13] city council has made a determination as
[4:35:15] to whether or not they're actually going
[4:35:17] to amend the ordinance that might affect
[4:35:20] those who have already prepared
[4:35:21] applications
[4:35:23] um since since the finish line is just
[4:35:24] around the corner here thank you so much
[4:35:26] for your time
[4:35:27] thank you for staying on this late and
[4:35:30] thank you for your comments
[4:35:31] City management sure so what I think is
[4:35:35] important is that we not
[4:35:37] um
[4:35:38] try to make every decision that we may
[4:35:40] need to make tonight I think what we're
[4:35:42] hearing is
[4:35:44] um based on an agendas Council Comet a
[4:35:48] member of the city council asking their
[4:35:52] colleagues to provide direction to staff
[4:35:55] to to schedule an item if a majority of
[4:35:59] counsel accepts that staff will do fully
[4:36:04] perform that Duty I think that there are
[4:36:06] other decisions that need to be made
[4:36:08] want us notifying everyone
[4:36:11] um certainly the manager's office has
[4:36:12] the ability to extend the deadline or
[4:36:15] pause applications I think based on what
[4:36:18] council directs we will certainly take
[4:36:22] the appropriate action and and look into
[4:36:24] looking to what is the appropriate next
[4:36:26] steps but I don't think we need to
[4:36:28] process through those right now I think
[4:36:30] what is before us is a member of the
[4:36:33] city council asking their colleagues to
[4:36:35] agenda as an item I think we address
[4:36:37] that and then we let staff process
[4:36:40] through all the decisions that need to
[4:36:42] be made to prepare for your policy
[4:36:45] discussion
[4:36:46] thank you city manager is there any
[4:36:48] other questions or comments from
[4:36:50] colleagues at this time
[4:36:52] already opened the public uh vice mayor
[4:36:55] just want to make sure
[4:36:57] okay thank you
[4:36:59] um with that is there again any action
[4:37:02] council member Salazar
[4:37:04] um
[4:37:05] following our new processes I will make
[4:37:08] a motion
[4:37:10] to uh direct staff to bring back revised
[4:37:14] Origins
[4:37:15] motion uh Salazar seconded Alvarez we're
[4:37:19] all called please oh I'm sorry pause question city manager can I just
[4:37:23] ask the council member to restate the
[4:37:26] changes in his motion that he's asking
[4:37:29] staff to make so we have complete uh
[4:37:31] clarity thank you I I will do that so uh
[4:37:35] I will make a motion that uh we direct
[4:37:37] staff to bring back revised ordinance uh
[4:37:41] that those two businesses can be either
[4:37:45] both delivery services
[4:37:48] or one delivery service and one retail
[4:37:51] the permitted zones
[4:37:54] a second
[4:37:56] on the question city manager is that
[4:37:58] which no mayor Rico Medina yes
[4:38:03] that action passes uh 3-2
[4:38:09] anything else under uh Council comments
[4:38:12] uh
[4:38:13] just one comment I just wanted to uh
[4:38:17] welcome our newest member to uh
[4:38:21] thank you thank you vice mayor Hamilton
[4:38:25] uh try going till three that's what I'm
[4:38:27] doing
[4:38:28] um
[4:38:29] uh no I don't have any comments
[4:38:32] thank you and do the lateness support
[4:38:33] being here late and city manager I would
[4:38:36] think please don't show up at eight in
[4:38:38] the morning
[4:38:39] um for the team so anyway with that we
[4:38:41] will go ahead and adjourn the next
[4:38:42] regular city council meeting that will
[4:38:44] be scheduled on January the 24th 2023 at
[4:38:47] 7 pm here at the senior center meeting
[4:38:48] adjourned
[4:38:52] okay
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[4:39:41] thank you
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