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Morning

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everyone.

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Looks like we do have a quorum. I think

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there might be some traffic, but we will

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get started. So, good morning. The

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December 12th board of directors meeting

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is called to order. First, I'd like to

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ask our interpreters to explain how to

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» Announcement from interpreter. To use

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Thank you.

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» Thank you. I'd like to take a moment to

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acknowledge the land that we call home.

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The tribal nations of San Diego have

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historically faced injustices. We

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acknowledge the harmony that existed

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between the land, nature, and its

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original peoples who have since endured

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displacement, persecution, and systemic

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oppression. We pay our respect to the

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unseated territory and homelands of the

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18 tribal nations in our region, the

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most in any county in the United States,

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from our from four cultural groups, the

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Kumaya, Deno, the Luceno, the Copeno,

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and the Kawa. This land has nourished,

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healed, protected, and embraced them for

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many generations in a relationship of

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balance and harmony. As members of the

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Sanding community, we acknowledge this

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legacy. We aspire to learn from

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indigenous traditional knowledge and

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experiences in undoing the injustices of

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the past. Now, please stand and join me

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in the flag salute.

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Ready, begin.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all.

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» Whoops.

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Okay, Michael, can you please double

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confirm quorum?

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» We do have a quorum chair with the

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cities of Alcohon, Escandido, La Mesa,

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National City, Oceanside, and Vista

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absent.

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» Okay, let's move on to non-aggenda

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public comment. How many do we have?

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» We have uh three in person and if you

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are online please raise your hand now

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» And three online. Okay.

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» So first we'll have uh truth followed by

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uh Perita Javier.

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» Hi Rebecca. Love the jacket. Can that be

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my Christmas gift please? All right. For

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the long-term board members who remember

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apparently there's a new mayor in town.

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» The mayor of Medita. I am the mayor of

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» Technically the mayor of Bonita.

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» I am technically the mayor.

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» If that's true, can Moa go back to the

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mayor's paycheck? Remember when I said

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it only take one board member to send

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this board into disarray? Manuela is it?

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With the scheme provided by dim chair

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William Rig Kennedy once accused of

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rape. Manuela tried to drag San

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backwards by playing the fafo game with

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500 million in federal dollars. Racist

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equity means projects to the favored few

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at the expense of the many. Union

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grifters love to say they're for the

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minority and the underserved. Yet,

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they're the first to selfishly throw

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projects uh for them on the sacrificial

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altar of their anti-Trump games.

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Republicans and independents, your yes

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vote gave leverage to the progressives

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political theater. How stupid can you

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be? The DIE show had zero strategy and

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zero values because so-called California

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values should not consist of breaking

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the law. I want to commend Bill and

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Chris for not playing political games

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with Sanag's bylaw compliance with

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federal law that affects funding for

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SANDAG projects because here's what

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progressive union games with our transit

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tax dollars already resulted in from a

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2022 reader article entitled when the

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Tmacula traffic hits Escanido quote.

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Santa communications director Gary

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Benelli says we hope to have a robust

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transit system in place by 2030. You're

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going to have five minute frequencies

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transit competitive with the car. Calran

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says, "We need alternate work hours

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where we're not all on the freeway at

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the same time." Two questionnaers

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solicit citizens views. The first asks,

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"What transportation improvements people

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think will work." The second asks, "What

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are they willing to do?" People will

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say, "Oh, public transportation. I'm

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willing to spend the money. Will you

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write it?" Well, no. End quote. Same

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bleep, different day. In over two

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decades, Sandak has literally achieved

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nothing but broken promises. So, colon

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stockings and Bahham bug to that. And

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you know what else bothers me is

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Fitzgerald stays silent. Thank you. Next

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is Pria Javier followed by Caesar

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Javier.

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» Good morning. I am Purita Javier, senior

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with medical condition and a victim of

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ceramic skill toxicity

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next door.

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I began residence in 1997.

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Cesar, my husband came in

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2012.

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A divine intervention. I knew nothing

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about clean air oxygen nor about air

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pollution. I was merely good at knowing

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shopping and sales are. It was

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that made me aware of the threat of our

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health and safety. He being a teacher

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and a contractor. In his curiosity, I

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gave him the story of the business and

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about them friends

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owner, a business that began 1984

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and in trickles

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on and off storytelling.

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My late husband

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words shout at only get out of there.

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Stay away from there. Also I told and

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showed Cesar about the permanent

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fastening of windows. I told Cesar that

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the owner has not gone to hire

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higher education unless

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his wife a nurse. I also informed Cesar

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that my late husband was sailor

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um in a navy guy and treated a calm uh

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the couple like son and daughter

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a father figure of them in short.

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» Thank you. Your has expired. Next is

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Caesar Javier followed by Mike Bullick

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online.

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Her family wishes everyone

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merry Christmas.

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prayerfully after our toil for four

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years, kneeling,

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pleading, and even shouting at our

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elected

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11 officials of the city of San Diego

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as a calling by our constitution.

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Working together.

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Perfect union. Ensure justice. A system

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fair for everyone including Habir

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family. Domestic tranquility. Defense.

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Our stance. Councelor Rivera. Sir Mario

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is defense to protect our community,

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to serve our community

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for a totality of patrimony and

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posterity for all American sons and

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daughters. We be we beg of you.

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Something is wrong and we are supposed

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to correct it. That's the tenets of what

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we call patrimony posterity. The good

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thing that we will remember and honor

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forever because this is the greatest

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country in the world and perhaps in few

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more years in the universe.

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We stand here to remind our elected

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officials that when you I mean when you

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take office, you raise your right hand,

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not your left,

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not your feet,

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but you raise your heart and mind and

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say to the Filipino, sorry, we just

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attended the Filipino meeting last

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yesterday.

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to all Americans.

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I will protect the question.

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» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

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is Mike Bullock online followed by the

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original draw.

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» Yes, thank you. Um I am uh Mike Bullock.

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I live in Oceanside and um I when I

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retired from Lockheed Martin after 36

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years, my title was senior staff systems

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engineer. So, uh, honorable chair and,

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uh, members of the board, I'm honored

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to, uh, speak with you this morning. And

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my topic is, uh, climate change

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literacy. And, um, I'm going to follow

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along with, uh, the way that is defined

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in the California Democratic Party

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platform uh, in the education plank, and

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you'll find it there. And it says, uh,

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you have to know, um, why we have the

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problem and how bad it could get. Um and

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uh also you need to know u uh the

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difference between climate stabilization

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and uh uh climate uh destabilization.

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Uh and then also uh the requirements

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that the climate scientists have given

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us uh so we can achieve the desired

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outcome which is stabilizing the climate

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and avoiding uh destabilization.

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Um and then also the mitigation measures

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are there. Um so I don't have a lot of

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time but um it's really based on uh the

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uh Noah plots u and uh the 800,000 year

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uh plot. So there's a a ton of science

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there. That's 800,000 years going back

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in time. It shows the atmospheric CO2

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and it shows the temperature anomaly

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which is what the temperature of our

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atmosphere is relative to what it would

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should be uh without climate change. And

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you know we're very close to 1.5 degrees

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centigrade now. Uh and uh the plot the

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other plot the Noah plot is just 1,00

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years where you zero in on it and it's

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very very clear that it's the um our

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industrial revolution. That's where our

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atmospheric uh CO2 climbed from what it

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should be 280 parts per million to 420.

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And the temperature anomaly that

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corresponds to that is 15 degrees

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centigrade. So we are in a lot of

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danger.

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» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

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is original draw followed by our last

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public comment. Casey,

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» Good morning. as you guys are here for

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the last one of these meetings for the

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year and before the holidays as you are

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going to be going and spending your

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holidays whatever holiday that is with

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your families and I bet it's going to be

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a really really beautiful time. Well, I

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would like you to think about while

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you're with your family, all of the many

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children who have been ripped apart from

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their families in the county by the

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child trafficking organization known as

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CFWB, Child Family Well-being,

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um or you know, people like to call it

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CPS. In fact, the county of San Diego

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was in a documentary that has um gone

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viral called Never in America. I suggest

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that you guys watch it. Um but it talks

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about this um business that is a

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conveyor belt to get children through

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the system after ASPA came in in 1997

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through Bill and Hillary Clinton

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to fasttrack adoptions with children and

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it's very lucrative taking title for

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funding because states used to have to

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actually pay when they took kids apart

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from their families and they did it only

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when there was actual abuse not to

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create cases because it's auc of

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business. But I want you guys to think

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about how do you think it would feel for

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your child if when they were seeing you

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and begging to go home with you, a

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social worker said, "Isn't that sweet?

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Isn't that sweet? Isn't it? Isn't that

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horrific to have to hear when you're

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begging to go home and there's no reason

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for you to be separated from your family

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except for money and all the while the

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county is covering up sexual abuse so

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you can't go home. I want you to think

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about what it's like being with your

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families and what it would be like if

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you weren't allowed to for absolutely no

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reason at all but for profit.

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Happy holidays.

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» Our last public comment is Casey. If you

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are online, please be sure to raise your

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hand at the start of an item, please.

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Last public comment, Casey, go ahead.

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» Hi, my name is Casey. I'm a high school

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student and this morning I had to ask my

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AP human geography teacher if I could

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leave class early to give this comment.

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He asked, "Why do you need to give

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public comment during class?" And I told

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him that Sandag is jeopardizing my

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future. In AP human geography, one of

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the first things you learn in the urban

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planning unit is that widening highways

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doesn't fix congestion. It creates

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induced demand. You add lanes, people

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drive more, and then traffic comes back

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and emissions increase. So what I when I

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see a plan proposing over 90 miles of

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new managed lanes costing more than $2

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billion, it feels like we're choosing to

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ignore what decades of evidence and

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frankly what we teach teenagers already

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tell us. I do want to thank everyone for

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extending the youth opportunity pass.

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And as a student who depends on transit,

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that decision genuinely matters. This

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plan still centers highway expansion

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even through SANDAG's own modeling

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labels these projects as high VMT to

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compensate the plan leaves heavily on

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rapid bus routes but we already have

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proof that rapid and name only rhinos

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don't work. Take the Rapid 215. When it

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launched in 2014 it was supposed to be

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faster and more reliable than the route

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it replaced. Today it takes 6 minutes

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longer than when it opened. On-time

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performance has dropped by about 10

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points and ridership is down 33% even

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though overall transit ridership has

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largely recovered. It's not a demand

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problem. It's a design failure. Without

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dedicated lanes and strong transit

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signal priority, buses are just stuck in

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traffic. I'm also deeply concern

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concerned with how little attention the

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purple line gets for South County is

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meant to be a transit lifeline and with

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SB79 enabling more housing near transit

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ridership potential is being

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underestimated. Also, removing

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references to NACO's safe bike

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infrastructure guidelines sends the

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wrong message to young people like me. I

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want to be really clear at the end here.

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I'm genuinely begging you for my future

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and my generation's future. You are not

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powerless. All it takes is one of you to

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step up and call a weighted vote. You

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have the power to pass a regional plan

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that works for everyone, for students,

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workers, families.

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» Thank you. Your time has expired. That

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concludes our our non-aggenda public

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comment chair. And for the record, the

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cities of National City, Oceanside, and

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Powe are present.

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» Very good. Thank you so much. We'll go

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to non-aggenda member comments and I see

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Ann Fox from CALR on the board.

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» Good morning. Um, so t the season for

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holiday wishes and retirements usually

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around this time of year. So I just

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wanted to announce that Karen Juel right

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here behind me will be retiring this

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month. um with over 36 years with CALR,

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probably a little bit more of that cuz

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she did start with us as a student

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assistant. She's been our hydraulics

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engineer, our traffic engineering and

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analysis lead, project manager in North

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County corridors, working on state

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routes 7678.

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then as a shared CALR SANDAG corridor

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director for our central corridors

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working on our routes 805 5215

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and as a good partner to many of you and

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your agencies um around this dis. So she

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was part of my lunch crew for probably

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well over a decade. Uh one of the nicest

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uh level-headed active people you'll

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ever know and someone we'll all miss in

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retirement. So, thank you Karen for

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making Calrrons and Sandad better.

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» Lovely tribute. Thank you. Sounds like

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you made your mark. All right, I have a

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few comments. Uh, this is the final

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meeting of the year. So, I want to thank

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you all so much and for sta to staff for

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your engagement and hard work throughout

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this very, very busy year. I also want

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to wish everyone a wonderful holiday

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season and I do look forward to working

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with you all next year together. Uh as a

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quick reminder, the audit committee

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chair is conducting the annual

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performance evaluation of Sandag's

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independence performance auditor. We

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received a request to fill out that

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questionnaire December 2nd which I

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somehow missed. Um got the reminder the

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other day and filled it out. So if you

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please fill it out if you haven't

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already. QR codes taped to the um desks

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in front of you and also you have an

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email in your email box. Um so please uh

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fill that out. Your feedback is

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important. Uh since our last meeting,

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Vice Chair Lava and I had the

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opportunity to meet with the leadership

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of the Southern California Tribal

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Chairman's Association. They generously

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hosted and we appreciated the chance to

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share um and discuss priorities,

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strengthen our working relationship and

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create some steps for um ongoing

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discussions. I also met with Senator

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Weber Pearson to discuss housing policy,

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including um SB79 and thanking her for

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her non support of SB79 and discussing

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um a number of other issues including

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border uh region resiliency and the

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ongoing need for SB 375 reform. That's

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it and I'll turn it over to Mario for

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his update.

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» Thank you, Chair and Karen.

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Congratulations. since we grew together

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in Calrans. So, uh I cannot envision uh

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not having you as a corridor director

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there. So, we really really uh a big hug

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and again you know we grew three decades

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together in the agency. Um we yesterday

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we had um uh city managers roundt that

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we are starting to host here. We really

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appreciate those city managers who could

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make it. Uh we had a very robust

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conversation of what's coming up next

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year as well as city managers provided

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us some recommendations of how we should

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be working with the working groups. So

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we will be bringing up uh those ideas.

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We will bring them forward to the

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executive committee. I really encourage

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all of you to encourage your city

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managers to to come to this round table.

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It's it's a good uh forum where we

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discuss ongoing issues, upcoming grants

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and we strategize uh to make uh the

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discussions here as well as in the packs

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uh more meaningful. So I really

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appreciate that. Also this week I

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participated at the California

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Infrastructure Development Conference in

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LA. Uh with me was Comey Ajitsu, the

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SCACK executive director, and we were

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together in a panel talking about what

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we'd see in the future and how we

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collaborate in Southern California.

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Between SCAK and SANDOK, we cover um all

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Southern California and the the a good

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chunk of the majority of the population

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of California. So between both

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organizations we can impact quite a bit

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as well as nationwide. Uh also earlier

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this week even so it feels way back uh

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we took a really fast trip a 23-hour

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trip to Washington DC to meet with the

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federal highway administrator Mr. Sheen

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McCaster as well as with Mexican

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ambassador in in the US Stean McDuma. um

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with federal highways. We discussed old

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time as

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understanding some regulations that

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federal highways has uh been directing

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us on it and that could open hopefully

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open the possibility of more

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partnerships. um as well as with

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Ambassador Mocktasuma, we discussed the

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project, but we also discussed the

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Tijuana River issues and how do we f

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more partner on on on improving not just

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the Tijuana issue, but all the

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environmental issues across the border.

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Uh that's why we're working on the

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sustainability

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uh um plan that we're working for that

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for the border region. On project

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updates,

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we had a huge accomplishment. The first

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climate action roadmap for San Diego

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region was completed and submitted to

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EPA. Why is it important for then your

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cities can go and take that plan and be

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eligible for funding? Because it's a

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regional plan. So you can take it as

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yours also in your cities. If you don't

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have that in your cities, it's an

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option. But that's pretty big because we

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for those smaller cities who may not

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have the bandwidth to do it, you can

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adopt the ones from from from Sanduk and

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that allows you to pursue funding for

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EPA and other related subjects. So we

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really really appreciate that. Um the

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Batikitos Lagoni MP, we're restoring the

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nesting habitat and we're really working

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on that project. We really want to thank

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uh um Santi and the mayor for uh mayor

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Mento for helping us cal and and and

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Sandak and Caltrans is leading this

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effort on the SR52

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uh operational improvements

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environmental document. So thank you for

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allowing us that this is the the one of

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what you consider beginning of

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conversations to start moving the 52

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into reality those improvements. So, you

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know, it's a journey and Mayor Mento is

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helping Calrons and ourselves on walking

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that journey. So, thank you on that. On

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the audit update, um we're really

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focusing on closing out the 2018 Trust

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recommendations

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that were submitted to IT Talk. Um it

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was very concerning to me that we were a

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decade behind in some recommendations,

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some of them from 2015. So, we needed to

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check the box out of the 2015. Now,

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we're going to try to check the box of

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the 2018 as we can get get closer to

543
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:52,880
just have not a not not a decade, but

544
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,679
hopefully months or maybe a year to get

545
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,640
to some recommendations. So, we really

546
00:31:55,679 --> 00:32:02,159
appreciate that. Um, today you will be

547
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,320
hearing uh the finance audit assessment.

548
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:06,159
uh that's going to be really helpful and

549
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,080
I'll talk more about that. But we're

550
00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:11,519
also doing going to be launching

551
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,600
internally in the agency an HR

552
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:16,159
department assessment and we are already

553
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,399
working on a toll ops organizational

554
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:21,519
assessment. The information has been

555
00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:24,480
very very good uh for us that will help

556
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:26,320
us reinvent our toll operations

557
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,240
department

558
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,840
on the back office. We're really

559
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,279
exploring on different types of

560
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,840
partnerships so we can also align it

561
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:38,720
with that reorganization of of our toll

562
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,039
department. Also reorgan reorganize how

563
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,760
we manage toll. So we will have more

564
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:46,080
information on that shortly.

565
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,519
Construction updates. There were some

566
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,600
concerns about the Omar Bluffs uh big

567
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:53,440
dyke that was built there. So, we're

568
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,480
going to coordinate with the mayor, with

569
00:32:53,440 --> 00:33:00,799
all the department, with the uh city

570
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:03,679
manager, and again, it's a journey. Uh

571
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:06,320
the mitigation for the Delmare Bluffs is

572
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:08,880
a complex mitigation that was imposed to

573
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,039
us by Coastal Commission. So, we're

574
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,279
going to work and try to balance what

575
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:16,240
Coastal wants, what the city wants, what

576
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:18,559
the transit agency wants, and we're

577
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,480
going to try to get, like I said, a

578
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,080
balance on all that. So, we're meeting

579
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,799
also with the coastal commission

580
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:28,159
director to try to figure that out next

581
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:30,240
month. We have begun construction on the

582
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:33,039
West Washington Street and Mission

583
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Valley bikeways. So, hopefully that will

584
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:38,720
be moving forward. And finally, you

585
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,279
know, I want to mention that our offices

586
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,640
will be closed uh to the public on

587
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:48,240
December 25th and January 1st. Our toll

588
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:51,200
operations customer center will close at

589
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,600
at noon around noon on the 24th to allow

590
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,559
those employees to go home and then we

591
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,679
will be closed also on the 25th and on

592
00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:01,600
the 1st and I really want to wish you uh

593
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:03,120
happy holidays to all of you and thank

594
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,120
you for all the support during this

595
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,000
calendar year.

596
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:11,440
» Thanks so much uh Mayor Gastelin.

597
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,800
» Yes, thank you. Um executive director,

598
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,119
thank you for mentioning the Delmare

599
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,760
Bluffs. I I wanted to invite the board

600
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:20,000
members here to come to Delmare sometime

601
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,079
over the next few weeks and walk the

602
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,919
beach along the bottom of the bluff. See

603
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:27,119
the over one mile of new seaw wall

604
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:30,000
that's in that is in between the the

605
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:33,359
beach and the bluff. And I also wanted

606
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,399
to remind us that the original cost of

607
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:38,399
this project was 58 million in 2020.

608
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:41,280
It's now estimated that it will wind up

609
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:44,320
totaling 88 million with 62 million

610
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,040
spent so far. So an extra 30 million has

611
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,000
gone into this project in on in June of

612
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,480
2022. The Coastal Commission approved

613
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,480
the project conditionally. One of the

614
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,040
conditions is actively vigorously

615
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,960
pursuing and accomplishing getting the

616
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,240
railroad tracks off the bluff into an

617
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,480
inland location. So that's one. And the

618
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:07,280
other was beach access.

619
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,200
So we're going to be asking for

620
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,960
transparency and access to the

621
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,599
construction plans that the coastal

622
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,280
commission reviewed. The exhibits

623
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,599
apparently weren't, you know, they

624
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,119
showed a four foot wide culvert in the

625
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,680
location at 11th Street and what was

626
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:24,240
built was 12 feet wide, six feet deep at

627
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,640
the six feet deep, six feet wide at the

628
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,280
bottom. Yeah, it's a very large cement

629
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,040
structure that stretches two blocks

630
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,680
along the top of the bluff in Delmare.

631
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,200
It was a surprise. So, let's try to be

632
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,440
more transparent and have no more

633
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,280
surprises.

634
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,400
» Okay, we now move on to the consent

635
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,000
calendar. Michael, do you have any

636
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,760
public comments on consent?

637
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,119
» Yes. If you are online, please raise

638
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:51,320
your hand. Now we have two in person.

639
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,320
That's truth followed by Caesar.

640
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,800
Item 3.1, the remnants of a dead meeting

641
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,960
should be amended to say that crybaby

642
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,640
William Murders Kennedy is the chair of

643
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,280
the San Diego Democratic Party for

644
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,880
transparency. Item 3.2 says that the

645
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,119
tribal transportation program is

646
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,640
considered as amended into the R TIP.

647
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,079
Does that mean the tribal projects are

648
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,760
automatically given to the building

649
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:16,560
construction trades council if they cost

650
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,640
over $5 million? Item 3.3. I'd like to

651
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,200
know why Loan is so concerned about form

652
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,000
700s. What corruption is going on there?

653
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Item 3.4. Not to $40 million to UN

654
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,599
global compact partner Jacob's project

655
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,599
management for the lagoon double

656
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,280
tracking. Also, there's a misspelling on

657
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,720
the word qualification in the second

658
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,599
paragraph on the second page of this

659
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:37,599
item. Item 3.5. I do not approve of the

660
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:41,200
$2.5 million investment in nefarious

661
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,880
Novartis. Item 3.6. If we follow the DIE

662
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560
nonsense that Lauren voted for, then I

663
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,079
don't think that wealthy La Mesa should

664
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,640
get a pass on their late financial

665
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:50,560
report. And fact needs to provide a more

666
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,400
detailed explanation as to why they need

667
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,200
an extension.

668
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,160
At 3.7, here's a public transit needs

669
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,760
story. On the trolley ride from hell, an

670
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,680
abusive man started arguing with a

671
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,280
woman. He suddenly grabbed the dog out

672
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,640
of her arms and threw it like it was

673
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,480
trash. Even worse, she didn't care.

674
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,960
There was zero security able to respond

675
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,960
to animal abuse. And that is a prime

676
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,200
traumatic example of what you all voted

677
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,520
to spend $6.5 million a year for

678
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,760
children to experience. For the

679
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,000
millionth time, make public transit

680
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,800
safety an immediate priority or shut up

681
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,440
about reducing VMT and GHGs because the

682
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:31,359
only safe mode of transportation is by

683
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,200
private car. Item 3.8. Not to Escanido's

684
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:35,040
unaffordable stack and pack trust fund

685
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,440
with no required transit and likely no

686
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,960
parking either. Noto bikeway for Lemon

687
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Grow, which doesn't even have fixed

688
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,680
streets or sidewalks. And why did the LG

689
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,640
only have to put up $1,000 in matching

690
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,280
funds? Why did I put up zero dollars for

691
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,200
the stupid cap update? And for San

692
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,119
Excels, staff needs to more closely

693
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,800
triple check their mistaken work before

694
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,880
releasing it, especially when it deals

695
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,960
with who gets funding. How long is this

696
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,520
agency going to keep messing up is my

697
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,599
question.

698
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,599
Next is Caesar followed by Mike Bullick

699
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,599
online.

700
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Advocacy for community life

701
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:35,599
processes 3.1 to 3.8.

702
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:38,920
We have to lump this because there are

703
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,920
a chain

704
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,079
and

705
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:48,599
the strength of this chains is the

706
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:48,599
weakest link in all this process.

707
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Did we adequately

708
00:38:53,839 --> 00:39:01,359
prepared for this

709
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:04,079
toilome effort? for example,

710
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:07,680
amending

711
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:09,760
rules and laws that are vintage,

712
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,040
not fitted

713
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,400
to the call of times.

714
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:19,920
I say this because

715
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:23,359
the mission of Sandag

716
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:27,040
to be specific is all about

717
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:30,880
man's survivability as far as mobility

718
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:34,520
and transportation. Without this

719
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,520
you know the answer.

720
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:44,359
The changing time

721
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,359
calls for changing rules.

722
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:52,480
The call of time state and condition

723
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:54,560
requires us to be vigilant and watchful.

724
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,960
This is all about all these processes

725
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,839
here today and we share with you.

726
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,320
We support this and we encourage you

727
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:07,599
thinkers including the public. Of

728
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,400
course, it's not your

729
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,880
jurisdiction alone because you never

730
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,760
exist without us.

731
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Hear from us, hear from you and we learn

732
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,480
together.

733
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,480
» Your time has expired. We have four

734
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,440
comments online. That's Mike Bullick

735
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,440
followed by the original draw.

736
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,560
» Yeah, thank you very much uh Mike

737
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,280
Bullock and Oceanside. I guess I

738
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,320
introduced myself before and uh so

739
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,200
honorable chair and members uh I would

740
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,480
like to uh respectfully

741
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:44,560
request that you consider removing uh

742
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:49,119
3.5 uh for discussion. Um, I really

743
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:52,079
appreciated hearing the uh uh statement

744
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,839
by uh the director and uh I think the

745
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:57,119
director I agree with everything that

746
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:59,839
the director is is saying in 3.5.

747
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:03,359
However, I think we need to discuss what

748
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:07,520
is not going on and that is that um

749
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:09,280
Sandag is not u asking uh Sacramento,

750
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,400
our legislators

751
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,040
uh our governor to please implement the

752
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:18,079
carb scoping plan. And uh the reason

753
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:21,119
that uh scoping plan must be implemented

754
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:23,280
as soon as possible is because it is

755
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:26,079
California's official plan to stabilize

756
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:30,240
the climate and achieve SP32 which is a

757
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:33,839
state law uh and uh corresponds to uh

758
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,440
what the IPC is doing and corresponds to

759
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:38,160
what the climate scientists tell us we

760
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,319
must do by 2030. We don't have a lot of

761
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,800
choice about this. uh the climate

762
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,960
scientists are not wrong and a climate

763
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,640
uh destabilization

764
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:51,359
uh is something we we need to avoid and

765
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,680
uh so we need to ask the state of

766
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:57,440
California to implement the mitigation

767
00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:03,040
measures which are in that plan and will

768
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:05,200
reduce uh VMT by 25% by 2030. They

769
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,839
didn't want to tell us that 25% but it's

770
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,680
just math. Uh I have worked this problem

771
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:13,760
myself and they're in the ballpark.

772
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:16,319
They're not uh off base at all. Uh I did

773
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,200
this 10 years ago and I I got 32%

774
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:20,720
reduction by 2030. Their assumptions are

775
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,520
are probably a little more updated than

776
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:26,319
mine. Uh electric cars are a far

777
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,880
superior technology and uh so they're

778
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:30,240
probably a little closer, but 25's a

779
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,319
lot. We have to get those mitigation

780
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,000
measures. Thank you.

781
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:38,200
Next is the original draw followed by

782
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,200
phone number ending in 1415.

783
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,240
» Until you guys can maintain um the

784
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,000
infrastructure that we already have, you

785
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:49,280
shouldn't be looking into things like

786
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,760
double tracking and whatnot. I mean, you

787
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,079
know, public transit is not beneficial

788
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,760
to people. It's takes longer and it's

789
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,280
just more of a pain in the butt. You

790
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,119
actually are putting children in danger

791
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,760
by not having security on there and

792
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:04,079
having them ride for free unaccompanied.

793
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,680
And when we sit here and we're talking

794
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:10,079
about, you know, reducing GHGs and all

795
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,640
of that and we don't even look into what

796
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:14,960
Mexico uh the cars that are coming from

797
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,440
there and you're, you know, penalizing

798
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,440
our own communities for things and, you

799
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,040
know, potentially road usage charges are

800
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,000
coming in. You should be implementing

801
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,359
that for people that are not having the

802
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,640
same regulations that we do um to ensure

803
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:30,319
that you're going to reduce those.

804
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,079
Otherwise, you guys are just hypocrites

805
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:34,480
because you're allowing things to happen

806
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:37,040
from people outside of our nation to

807
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,720
come in and then basically the people

808
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,079
that live here are punished for it

809
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,839
because we're never going to meet the

810
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:44,000
goals that you want because all of it's

811
00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:46,960
BS anyway. But your smart growth

812
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,440
incentive program and the way that you

813
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,240
guys talk about projects and you know

814
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:55,119
aligning them with growth principles and

815
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:57,440
you know that are compact, transit

816
00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:00,079
accessible, pedestrianfriendly

817
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,960
and environmentally responsible you know

818
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,800
reduces traffic congestion. You

819
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,680
basically are putting people in these

820
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,599
densely populated areas that are going

821
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,119
to be you know tra where people are

822
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,319
going to be tracked and traced. you're

823
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:14,400
going to have to walk and bike

824
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,920
everywhere. I mean, if you guys want

825
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,000
something to work, cuz nothing you guys

826
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,560
do is really beneficial to the people,

827
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,440
why don't you do it first, prove to us

828
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,599
that it works and then potentially in

829
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,760
ask us if we can want our money to be

830
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:29,680
spent on that and then we'll decide.

831
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,240
Instead, you guys just push the United

832
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,079
Nations agenda and you don't care what

833
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,400
the people in the communities have to

834
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:38,960
say. you don't look into the fact that

835
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,560
you're creating a huge fire hazard and

836
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,760
potential death for a bunch of people

837
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,760
the way that you're planning things out.

838
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:51,240
Thank you. Next is phone number 1415.

839
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,240
Follower at phone number 8813

840
00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:04,640
um

841
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:07,599
on the transnet smart growth stuff. Uh

842
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,440
so this climate action stuff is funded

843
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:14,960
by the transnet extension.

844
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Our money going to places other than

845
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,720
transnet.

846
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:24,240
Um and I was just reminded that climate

847
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:26,160
predictions often are based on one or

848
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:30,560
two

849
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:33,920
or several particular regions and are

850
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,200
not applicable to all. The spread of

851
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:41,760
divergent cap projects with different

852
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:44,000
goals is wasted money. It is interesting

853
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,440
and instructive that most of the

854
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:52,000
initiatives listed in the appendix are

855
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:54,560
not cap oriented and it is shameful that

856
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,119
you won't fund Escandida's affordable

857
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:01,440
housing trust when you have three

858
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:04,560
million left to give initiative such.

859
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,920
I also think it is unfair to deny

860
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,640
funding completely to the Escandido

861
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,960
project simply because it relies on

862
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,480
existing transportation

863
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,400
infrastructure

864
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,359
rather than developing new

865
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,240
transportation infrastructure.

866
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:24,800
This is pressed fund which means that

867
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:27,280
not all of the individual housing

868
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,040
projects or access routes are in

869
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:34,560
planning at this time.

870
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:39,520
uh the um

871
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,760
and the CM contract. Uh I'm glad to hear

872
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,400
that there was a robust competitive

873
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,760
bidding process for the construction

874
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,640
management. Uh doesn't look like the

875
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:54,079
constructability review bids were

876
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:58,160
competitive with two biders, one of whom

877
00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:02,560
was locked out. Our reviews for Jacobs

878
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,480
are mixed with good work like work life.

879
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,920
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Our

880
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,480
last public comment is phone number

881
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,480
ending in 8813.

882
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:19,440
» Okay, Consol here. So um because

883
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,520
everything is connected and um

884
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,599
because everything we're seeing at the

885
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,520
local level from transportation policy

886
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,040
to digital systems to financial

887
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,839
restructuring

888
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:33,280
uh is connected to a much larger

889
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:35,440
pattern. Uh many people shrugged off uh

890
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:39,520
or didn't think twice when the penny was

891
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,640
taken out of production a month ago.

892
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,960
And uh you know nothing government

893
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,520
removes is ever too small to matter.

894
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Every disappearance is a shift in our

895
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,920
human behavior. When you remove the

896
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,480
lowest denomination of money, you

897
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,560
normalize rising prices. You normalize

898
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,119
rounding up. You normalize quiet

899
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,680
inflation that nobody can track. It's a

900
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:05,280
psychological conditioning tool, not an

901
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:08,560
economic update. And what happens next?

902
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,680
Cash slowly disappears. digital payment

903
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,480
becomes default, tracking becomes

904
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:19,839
unavoidable and control becomes

905
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:22,319
programmable. And um it's clear in the

906
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:24,720
very frameworks that agencies like

907
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:26,480
SANDAG follow including the regional

908
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:29,920
implementation

909
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:33,680
uh for the UN 2030

910
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:36,559
um which pushes digitalized mobility,

911
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,839
digital identity, cashless systems and

912
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:42,079
centralized data monitoring as if they

913
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:44,240
are harmless advances.

914
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:46,160
And the truth is simple. When everything

915
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,680
is digital, everything is trackable.

916
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,680
When everything is trackable, everything

917
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,920
is controllable. And when everything is

918
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,280
controllable, human freedom becomes

919
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,839
optional. And you see this in uh

920
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,559
transportation planning, the push to

921
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:02,720
restrict car usage, increasing increase

922
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:05,280
tolling, expand surveillance based

923
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:07,760
mobility systems, tie transportation

924
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,240
access to digital accounts. It mirrors

925
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,480
the same pattern we see in the financial

926
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:15,040
system. reduce physical freedom,

927
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,839
increase digital dependency, shift power

928
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,720
upward, make human behavior manageable,

929
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:21,200
and it all has

930
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,559
» Thank you. Your time has expired.

931
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,760
» That concludes our public comment on

932
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:26,400
this item. Chair,

933
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,119
» Very good. Um, it's now time for the

934
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,359
board to comment. Perhaps give me a

935
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:33,359
motion.

936
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:34,800
» Um,

937
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:36,559
first, Vice Chair Lava.

938
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,680
» Uh, I'll move the consent agenda.

939
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:41,119
» Very good. Second by Mento. Um, Mayor

940
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Sanchez, did you want to speak?

941
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,119
» I was just going to make the motion.

942
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,800
» Okay. Thank you.

943
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:49,640
» All right. So, please use your devices

944
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,640
to speak. I mean to vote any.

945
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,760
Yeah.

946
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,800
Okay, that passes unanimously. Uh, thank

947
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,319
you. Uh, we'll now move to the 2025

948
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,680
regional plan. This is the time and

949
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:23,680
place set for a public hearing on the

950
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,680
2025 regional plan and its final

951
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,359
environmental impact report. The staff

952
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,440
presentation will be heard first and

953
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:30,960
then we will take public comment. Next,

954
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,960
we'll hear comments from board members

955
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,319
and then I'll close the public hearing.

956
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,040
After the public hearing, we are being

957
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:42,880
asked to certify the final EIR and adopt

958
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:46,160
the 2025 regional plan. So, Antwanette,

959
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,760
please go ahead.

960
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,520
Thank you, chair. Good morning. I'm

961
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,680
Anwinet Meyer, the senior director of

962
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,079
regional planning here at Sandag. And

963
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,640
today is a big day. Today is the day um

964
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:58,319
when we're asking you to adopt the 2025

965
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,559
regional plan that we've been working on

966
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:02,800
together over the last several years and

967
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:05,680
to certify the environmental impact

968
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,839
report. Um developing and adopting a

969
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,119
regional plan every four years is one of

970
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:10,640
Sandag's most important

971
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,559
responsibilities. You've heard me say

972
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,240
this time and time again. Without a

973
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:16,079
regional plan, the region, and that's

974
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,240
every agency in the region, is not

975
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:20,800
eligible for state and federal funding

976
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,960
for transportation projects. So having a

977
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,040
plan that meets all of the state and

978
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,599
federal requirements is a very important

979
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,400
thing for the for the region. Um in

980
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:32,160
September I presented to you the changes

981
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,000
that we were proposing to make between

982
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,240
draft and final. They were relatively

983
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,400
minor changes and those changes are

984
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,400
reflected um in the the final plan.

985
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,640
There haven't been any additional um

986
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,920
changes since then. What you haven't

987
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,440
heard about yet though is the

988
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,720
environmental impact report. So, we're

989
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,839
going to spend a little bit more time on

990
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:52,000
on that today um before we open it up

991
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:54,400
for the the public hearing part of the

992
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,440
the plan.

993
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:00,400
So, just a few quick reminders. Um this

994
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,160
is really the culmination of years of

995
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,160
technical work, coordination,

996
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,800
collaboration with you um and your

997
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,079
agencies and a lot of public outreach.

998
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,960
We started this process back in 2021,

999
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:14,880
collecting current travel data, um doing

1000
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,440
surveys, updating the modeling tools

1001
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,760
that we use to evaluate the plan. And

1002
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,240
then we really kicked this off with you

1003
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,440
um in 2023 at your board retreat. When I

1004
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,040
was doing a briefing yesterday, Mayor

1005
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Gastlin reminded me that we kicked this

1006
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,160
off with the puzzle exercise at your

1007
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,839
your board retreat. Um and um you all

1008
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,760
helped us throughout the course of that

1009
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:35,520
year determine what the priorities for

1010
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,760
the plan were and to set the goals for

1011
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,440
the plan. We also started doing outreach

1012
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,280
really early for this plan. So getting

1013
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,040
input from communities about what their

1014
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,280
priorities were. Um and then we

1015
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,000
developed an initial concept for the

1016
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,400
plan in 2024. That was not the draft,

1017
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,319
but that was the pre-draft. We took that

1018
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,400
out. We got feedback from you from

1019
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:55,920
communities. Um and then we we

1020
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,599
incorporated that feedback into the

1021
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,079
draft plan that we released for public

1022
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:01,680
comment in May. Shortly after releasing

1023
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:05,040
that draft plan, we released the the

1024
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,559
draft EIR. Um and then uh the public

1025
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,880
comment period's closed. We've been

1026
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,720
addressing all of those comments. Um in

1027
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,359
fact, there is uh responses to the

1028
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:16,640
public comments as an appendix to um the

1029
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:19,040
the the plan. Um and now we are here

1030
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,920
with the final step uh today adopting

1031
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,839
the plan.

1032
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,079
This slide really summarizes all of the

1033
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:27,119
in-person outreach that we did over the

1034
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:28,960
course of the plan. You'll see there

1035
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,880
were quite a few board presentations and

1036
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,040
workshops. 20. Thank you for being

1037
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,359
patient and active participants in the

1038
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,200
process, but it it was very helpful for

1039
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:39,359
staff because it allowed you to really

1040
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,960
provide guidance and direction along the

1041
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:42,400
way and to have a better understanding

1042
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,839
of what it takes to put together a

1043
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,920
regional plan and all the laws and

1044
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:47,760
requirements that we have to meet and

1045
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,079
why we make certain decisions to include

1046
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,760
things in the plan. We also worked a lot

1047
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:53,680
with your staff both one-on-one and

1048
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960
through our working groups and and uh we

1049
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,800
worked with our policy advisory

1050
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,520
committees. We did a lot of community

1051
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,680
events um and uh we worked with our

1052
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,520
tribes. We did consultation through our

1053
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,280
tribal working group but also one-on-one

1054
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,800
with the different tribes. Um and we

1055
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,880
went out and we met with groups all

1056
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,440
across the region and that led to a lot

1057
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,680
of feedback. So when we were working on

1058
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,839
the initial concept for the plan, we had

1059
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,920
both in-person and online opportunities

1060
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:20,880
to provide feedback that resulted in

1061
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,160
over nearly 12,000 public comments. Then

1062
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160
when we released the draft, I shared

1063
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,079
with you in September that we got um

1064
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:32,480
over 1,300 um comments uh on the on the

1065
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:35,040
plan um and we held again in person um

1066
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,920
events all across the region um and took

1067
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:40,960
feedback um through email and mail every

1068
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,400
every mechanism and appendix J you can

1069
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,559
see the responses to those public

1070
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,160
comments.

1071
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,440
This is the the network. I'm not going

1072
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,680
to spend a lot of time on it because

1073
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,119
we've talked so much uh about it, but

1074
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,960
you know the feedback that we get on the

1075
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,119
plan is about as diverse as our region

1076
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,680
and we tried to really respond to that

1077
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:59,680
with a very balanced multimodal plan. So

1078
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,240
this plan has investments across all

1079
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,559
modes, transit, active transportation,

1080
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,640
roadways, safety and operation projects.

1081
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:08,160
Um it's all in the plan. It also

1082
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,680
includes improvements to existing

1083
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,200
services. So, you don't see those lines

1084
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,839
on the map, but all of the transit

1085
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,599
across the region gets upgrades, um,

1086
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:18,079
additional hours of service, better

1087
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,760
frequencies. Um, there's community

1088
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,839
shuttles. We've heard a lot from you,

1089
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:24,480
um, about the desire to have more, um,

1090
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:26,640
neighborhood, uh, shuttle services. Um,

1091
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,480
and we have those in both our rural and

1092
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,839
urban communities. And of course, safety

1093
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,440
and operational improvements. We've

1094
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:32,800
heard a lot from our our rural

1095
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,400
communities and the tribes about the

1096
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,800
importance of that. So, that is um,

1097
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,880
reflected in the plan. What you don't

1098
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,640
see is the programs and the projects.

1099
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,240
And we've received a lot of comments um

1100
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,480
about the youth opportunity pass

1101
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,640
program. I want to reassure you YOP is

1102
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,559
in the plan for the life of the plan. In

1103
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,040
October, the board approved another

1104
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:52,079
additional few years of funding um for

1105
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,799
that and we're working with the

1106
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:57,680
operators on a long-term sustainable

1107
00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:59,599
funding source. The other project I want

1108
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,960
to um mention because it's been coming

1109
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:03,119
up a lot and we've got a lot of

1110
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,359
questions on it is the Purple Line. So,

1111
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:07,920
the Purple Line um has not been delayed.

1112
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:10,000
it is it is not removed from the plan

1113
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,200
but we've done a lot of planning and

1114
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,040
analysis work um since the 2021 plan and

1115
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,880
we learned a lot about where the line

1116
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,200
should be and how complicated and

1117
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,960
complex and expensive it is to construct

1118
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,359
and that's reflected in the plan. So the

1119
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,440
new timeline for the purple line um and

1120
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:27,920
the phasing for that project is is based

1121
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,319
on reality the cost of the project and

1122
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,880
how complex of a project it is to

1123
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:34,480
construct. There was also some confusion

1124
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,040
and public comments that came in about

1125
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,720
the airport and transit to the airport.

1126
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,640
There is no automated people mover in

1127
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,160
the regional plan. We assume in the

1128
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,079
outer years of the plan that the trolley

1129
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,520
light rail will connect to the airport

1130
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:47,839
and in the near term we have

1131
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,240
improvements to the existing shuttle and

1132
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:52,160
bus service. And then last I want to

1133
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:54,000
address Senate Bill 79 because there's

1134
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,240
been a lot of feedback and and comments

1135
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,960
and concerns about the potential impacts

1136
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:01,680
of Senate Bill 79 um based on projects

1137
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,440
in the plan. So Senate Bill 79 applies

1138
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,040
to projects that have operated in the

1139
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,920
last three years. So it's backward

1140
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,760
looking and um routes for which a

1141
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,359
locally preferred alternative has been

1142
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,079
selected. So projects that are already

1143
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:16,079
well along in the planning environmental

1144
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:18,079
um stage um and that are included in the

1145
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:19,839
RTIP. So the lines on the map in the

1146
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:21,839
regional plan aren't going to unless

1147
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:23,760
they've been really planned and gone

1148
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:25,839
through environmental trigger anything

1149
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,960
related to SB79.

1150
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:30,960
Also, we don't have the um what the

1151
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400
state how the state defines rapid in our

1152
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,760
region. So, the state's definition

1153
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:38,480
around rapid is dedicated infrastructure

1154
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,760
only for exclusively used by the bus.

1155
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,040
You need to have transit signal

1156
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,480
priority. You need to have alldoor

1157
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,079
boarding. Basically, all of the bells

1158
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,319
and whistles and we don't have any

1159
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:48,880
qualifying rapid in our region. Nor do

1160
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:50,640
we assume that rapids in our plan uh

1161
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,480
will require all of those things or have

1162
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:56,960
all of those things. So, I just wanted

1163
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,960
to clarify that about the plan.

1164
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,520
The good news is is the plan achieves

1165
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:03,119
the goals that you all set early on. Um

1166
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,720
and the performance measures are

1167
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:09,440
included as a attachment to um the

1168
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:12,160
appendix to the the plan itself. Um so

1169
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:16,000
you all set goals around convenience,

1170
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,400
equity, health and um safety. And um at

1171
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,480
a high level uh travel times are

1172
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,480
decreased for all modes and that

1173
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,040
includes commercial vehicles. So we

1174
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,520
achieve the convenience. Um there's

1175
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,599
increased access to basic needs and

1176
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,839
opportunities for all populations in the

1177
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:33,839
region. Um there's an increase in

1178
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:36,880
transportation related physical activity

1179
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:38,880
and cleaner air. Um and we have more

1180
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:42,000
safe transportation projects in the plan

1181
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:44,000
than we have in prior plans.

1182
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,559
And very importantly, we meet all of our

1183
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,079
federal and state requirements. So uh

1184
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:49,520
across the top there, you see the

1185
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,640
federal requirements. There's more than

1186
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,720
this, but these are some of the big

1187
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,240
ones. Um, there's a title six analysis

1188
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,079
that's included in the plan. That's

1189
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,319
appendix E. And that demonstrates that

1190
00:58:56,079 --> 00:59:00,960
the plan really does improve access to

1191
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:03,359
jobs, to education, to basic needs for

1192
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,040
our most vulnerable populations. We have

1193
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:07,200
to do the air quality conformity

1194
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,520
determination. Um, fortunately, we are

1195
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,920
no longer in a conformity lockdown. So,

1196
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,839
we're able to submit our air quality

1197
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,839
conformity determination um to the

1198
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:16,960
federal uh government for approval. And

1199
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:18,799
that's one of the things you're being

1200
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,079
asked to approve today. But that

1201
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:21,920
demonstrates that we comply with the

1202
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:24,160
Clean Air Act and that the projects in

1203
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,680
the plan don't worsen air quality. And

1204
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,359
then fiscal constraint. We've talked a

1205
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,960
lot about this. The regional plan has to

1206
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:31,119
be fiscally constrained. That means that

1207
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,640
the projects in the plan um we have to

1208
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,240
demonstrate how we could reasonably pay

1209
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,559
for them over the life of the plan. So

1210
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,720
it can't be a wish list. Um we do have

1211
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:40,240
an unconstrained uh list of projects.

1212
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,920
Those are projects that aren't part of

1213
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,520
our funding strategy. They're not lines

1214
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,880
on the map. Um but they're projects of

1215
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,599
interest to the region or that show up

1216
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,720
in other agencies, other entities plans.

1217
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:52,799
Um, so this plan is 125 billion. That's

1218
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,520
quite a bit less than the last uh couple

1219
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:57,280
of of uh plans. That does not just

1220
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,040
include the new projects in the plan.

1221
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,880
And this is not just Sandax money. This

1222
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,880
is um operations and maintenance

1223
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,319
projects for CALR. This is the money

1224
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,079
that we passed through to all of you for

1225
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:09,680
local streets and roads projects or our

1226
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:11,200
grant programs. Um it's uh uh the bike

1227
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,319
projects that either you're building or

1228
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,000
that we're building. Um and it um covers

1229
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:17,920
really everything, even paying off our

1230
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,520
our debt.

1231
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,960
Um on the bottom we have the state

1232
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,119
requirements. So for housing and land

1233
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:26,319
use we have to demonstrate how future

1234
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:28,319
job um and housing growth will occur in

1235
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:29,599
areas where there's planned or existing

1236
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:32,160
multimmoal transportation

1237
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:34,640
infrastructure. We achieve this 80% of

1238
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,240
the region's future growth um is in

1239
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,480
areas with planned or future

1240
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,559
transportation investments. Um it's

1241
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,680
Senate Bill 375, the one that we talk a

1242
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:44,640
lot about and the one that we're working

1243
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,400
on improving for future plans is the um

1244
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,079
greenhouse gas emissions reduction

1245
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,799
target. And if you recall, we have to

1246
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:53,440
meet that GHG target by reducing vehicle

1247
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:56,160
miles traveled. The target that carb set

1248
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,760
for this plan is a 19% per capita

1249
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:03,040
reduction by 2035 based on 2005 levels.

1250
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:05,359
This plan achieves a 19.35%

1251
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,559
reduction. So, we exceed um our target

1252
01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:11,280
and that's actually higher than the

1253
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:13,200
amended 2021 plan which was 18.6 um%.

1254
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,559
So, we've met all of those laws. The

1255
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,079
last law that I'm going to turn over to

1256
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:18,240
Kirsten. Kirsten, you could tell who's

1257
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:21,280
joining me today is the project manager

1258
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,960
um for the EIR, the programmatic ER um

1259
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,720
for the plan, and she's going to walk

1260
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,160
you through uh the contents of the plan,

1261
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,200
the public comments that we received,

1262
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,920
and how we've addressed those.

1263
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,079
» Thank you.

1264
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,160
» My name is Kirsten

1265
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:38,480
Kirsten Yucatel and I'm here to give you

1266
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,160
an overview of the EIR and the other

1267
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,040
documents that are related that are in

1268
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:45,839
your packet. So we completed an

1269
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,920
environmental impact report for the 2025

1270
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:50,000
regional plan consistent with the

1271
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,280
California Environmental Quality Act or

1272
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,599
SQA which requires that we identify and

1273
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,040
analyze the environmental impacts of

1274
01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:01,599
implementing the 2025 regional plan.

1275
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,559
This is called a programmatic or program

1276
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:06,640
EIR. And as it sounds, it's intended to

1277
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,440
look at an interconnected set of

1278
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,599
projects, a program of them over a

1279
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,720
longer time horizon, in this case out to

1280
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:18,559
2050 consistent with the regional plan.

1281
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:20,160
So this EIR is not clearing individual

1282
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:22,079
projects. It's not completing

1283
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,119
environmental analysis for individual

1284
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:26,960
projects, site specific impacts or

1285
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:30,000
developing those related mitigation

1286
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,000
measures. It is analyzing the

1287
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,880
environmental impacts of the regional

1288
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,599
plan at the same level of detail

1289
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,440
contained in the regional plan. And the

1290
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:42,160
expectation is that as projects are

1291
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,559
further developed and have a stable

1292
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,480
project description, they will then go

1293
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:48,880
through their own individual project

1294
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,119
level SQA analysis that will look at

1295
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,359
their impacts and alternatives and

1296
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,520
mitigation.

1297
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:57,520
This EIR is looking at this high

1298
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,559
programmatic level at environmental

1299
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,040
impacts of the 2025 plan, cumulative

1300
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:05,760
impacts. It contains an alternatives

1301
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:09,960
analysis and it also contains

1302
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,960
programmatic mitigation measures.

1303
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,839
One of the elements of developing the

1304
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,240
EIR is to put it out for public comment.

1305
01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:22,079
As Antonette had already mentioned, our

1306
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:24,000
draft EIR went out in late August and by

1307
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:28,160
the conclusion of the comment period, we

1308
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:30,240
had received 217 comments on the EIR.

1309
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,240
Consistent with SQUA, we prepared

1310
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,640
written responses to each of these

1311
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:37,119
comments and those are attached to your

1312
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:41,960
packet as attachment 4 and they are

1313
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:41,960
appendix N1 in the EIR.

1314
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,720
Of the 217 comments that we received,

1315
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,280
maybe 80 to 85% of them were actually

1316
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,520
comments on the regional plan. Those

1317
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,839
comments focused primarily on the purple

1318
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,920
line, on the youth opportunity pass

1319
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:00,079
program and on the desire for greater

1320
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,000
transit amenities.

1321
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,760
Of the comments received on the

1322
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,720
environmental impact analysis in the

1323
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,680
EIR, there were two primary themes the

1324
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:13,920
comments emerged around. The first was

1325
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:16,559
GHG and VMT impacts with most commenters

1326
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:19,200
opposing roadways um opposing roadway

1327
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:21,520
expansion, advocating for sooner

1328
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:24,839
implementation of transit to reduce

1329
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,839
those impacts.

1330
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:31,599
VMT and GHG impacts are fully analyzed

1331
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:35,440
in the EIR across three primary sections

1332
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:37,599
which are air quality is section 4.3,

1333
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,799
greenhouse gas and climate change which

1334
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:43,680
is section 4.8 and transportation which

1335
01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:46,960
is section 4.16.

1336
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:49,920
The second primary area of comment was

1337
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:52,319
impacts to wildlife and habitat with

1338
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,559
many commenters expressing concern that

1339
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:56,960
there is not an identified regional

1340
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:59,920
funding source to subsidize local

1341
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:02,160
habitat conservation plans.

1342
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:04,559
Impacts to wildlife and impacts to

1343
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:07,920
habitat along with other resources are

1344
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:11,440
analyzed in section 4.4 four of the EI

1345
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,079
biological resources

1346
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,760
and comments to all responses to all of

1347
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:18,079
those comments as I said are in the

1348
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,319
attachment to your packet.

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01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:22,960
None of the comments that we received

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01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:25,119
raised significant new information that

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:29,039
had not already been analyzed in the

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01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:31,440
draft EIR. Similarly, we had some

1353
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:33,760
changes draft to final in the ER and

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:37,760
none of those changes rise to the level

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,760
of significant new information.

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01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:44,640
In addition

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:46,640
to the EIR, SQAR requires preparation of

1358
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,280
some additional documents that are also

1359
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:52,480
attached to your packet. The first one

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:55,760
of those is the findings which discusses

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:58,880
the alternatives analyzed in the EIR and

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:03,520
also discusses the environmental impacts

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:07,200
of the 2025 plan after mitigation.

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:09,280
That's attachment 1A to your packet. The

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,480
second document is a statement of

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,799
overriding considerations or SOC, which

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,039
is attachment 1B,

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01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:19,920
and that sets out the advantages and

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01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:22,799
benefits of adopting the 2025 regional

1370
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:26,799
plan and weighs them against the

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01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:30,240
environmental impacts of the 2025 plan.

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01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:32,160
The third document attachment 1C is the

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,920
mitigation monitoring and reporting

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,000
program

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01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,079
which sets out the mitigation that has

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:41,280
been identified, analyzed and committed

1377
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:44,240
to in the EIR at a programmatic level

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,720
for the regional plan.

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,799
And that concludes my presentation and

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01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,799
I'll turn it back to Anuanette for next

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01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:51,799
steps.

1382
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:57,119
Okay. So, next steps um we will uh have

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,119
the public hearing right after the

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01:06:57,119 --> 01:07:01,440
presentation and then the board will be

1385
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:04,319
asked to take two actions. The first

1386
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,640
will be to certify the EIR and the

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01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:09,920
second will be to approve adopt the

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,079
regional plan. Um once that happens um

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01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,640
we will submit the sustainable community

1390
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:17,039
strategy to the state um California air

1391
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,039
resources board for acceptance and we

1392
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:21,039
will submit the air quality conformity

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01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:23,520
determination and RTP to the US

1394
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:26,400
Department of Transportation and the EPA

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:28,240
for approval. And with that I will pass

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,119
it back to the chair to open the public

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,559
hearing.

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01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:32,720
» Very good. I've opened the public

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01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:34,799
hearing and we'll now go to public

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01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,400
comments. Michael, how many do we have?

1401
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:40,079
If you are online, please raise your

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:41,760
hand. Now we have nine in person. First

1403
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:44,000
up is Chris Roberts, followed by Eric

1404
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,839
Rer.

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01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,000
Hello, I'm Chris Roberts, volunteer for

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01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:50,319
San Diego 350 climate action. Thank you

1407
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,440
Sande staff for all your hard work on

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01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:55,599
the plan. We are very happy that funding

1409
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,839
for youth opportunity pass program has

1410
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:59,599
been extended. Thank you very much.

1411
01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:02,640
Apart from this, we're very disappointed

1412
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:04,559
in the 2025 regional plan and we don't

1413
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,119
believe that the plan is going to

1414
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:09,920
achieve the goals that were stated in

1415
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:12,160
particular decreasing uh transit across

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,960
all modes. We don't believe it. Um the

1417
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:17,440
plan uh will have 93 miles of new lanes

1418
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,159
added managed lanes costing more than $2

1419
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:22,239
billion by 2035.

1420
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:24,400
This will result in induced demand. And

1421
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:26,319
so a few years after completion, the

1422
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,880
congestion on these highs highways will

1423
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:30,400
be as bad as it is now. And we don't

1424
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,440
think that's an effective way to spend

1425
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:36,080
$2 billion over the next 10 years.

1426
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:37,920
Sande's own modeling characterizes these

1427
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,600
as high VMT increase. So there'll be

1428
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,839
more cars on the road, more greenhouse

1429
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:44,319
gas emissions. To mitigate the

1430
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:46,960
greenhouse gas emissions, many new rapid

1431
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:48,880
bus routes are added. But as Antuinet

1432
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,080
said, these aren't real rapid bus

1433
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,080
routes. they're not going to have all

1434
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,000
the the technology needed for them to be

1435
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,279
rapid to get the greenhouse gas

1436
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,440
emissions. They're going to

1437
01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:00,000
counterbalance all of the induced demand

1438
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:01,440
from the highway expansions. So, I don't

1439
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,719
it's hard to believe we're going to meet

1440
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:06,480
our SB 375 greenhouse gas emissions in

1441
01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:09,839
this plan.

1442
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:11,759
So, um and and of course as well uh a

1443
01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:14,319
lot of the things that rapid bus routes

1444
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:16,880
need, for example, busonly lanes are

1445
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:19,520
actively opposed by many cities in the

1446
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,679
county. So the biggest disappointment in

1447
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,759
the plan is the purple line. It's barely

1448
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:26,239
mentioned. We feel that with the passage

1449
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:28,000
of SB79, the numbers of riders on the

1450
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:30,799
plan are going to be much greater than

1451
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,279
stated. And it's extremely disappointing

1452
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:34,960
that NATO safe bicycle infrastructure

1453
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,719
guidelines have been removed from the

1454
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,920
plan. That means that bike

1455
01:09:36,719 --> 01:09:41,679
infrastructure will be built unsafe and

1456
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,080
and the community will will declare

1457
01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:45,759
victory. So we're sorry about that and

1458
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,920
we're disappointed in the plan. Thank

1459
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:50,960
you very much.

1460
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,799
Next is Eric Rer followed by Truth.

1461
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,080
» Good morning. My name is Eric Rur. Good

1462
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:56,239
morning members of the board and

1463
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,520
everyone attending. I'm a resident of

1464
01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:02,400
San Diego and just uh speaking as a

1465
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,080
resident, not representing anyone. I do

1466
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,400
work as a transportation engineering

1467
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:09,280
consultant in the San Diego region. So I

1468
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:12,080
work for both private and uh public uh

1469
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,159
clients. I will most likely be working

1470
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,800
on individual projects that are part of

1471
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:19,440
this plan. But I'm not speaking about

1472
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,400
any uh individual projects today. What

1473
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:24,000
my comment um is to speak in favor of

1474
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:28,800
adopting the plan and certifying the

1475
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:30,880
EIR. And um I followed the process um

1476
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,560
from the beginning and want to let you

1477
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,920
know I believe this has been a robust

1478
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,600
process that resulted in a in a balanced

1479
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,480
plan and I think you should adopt this

1480
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:44,560
plan. I think you should certify the EIR

1481
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:48,920
and thank you for allowing me to speak.

1482
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,920
Next is truth followed by Caesar Javier.

1483
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:57,600
» Total artificial input was 2517 people

1484
01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:00,320
divided by a 3.3 million population

1485
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:02,960
equals 0.7%

1486
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,440
input. Thumbs down. All modes of

1487
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,120
transportation are faster. Yeah, right.

1488
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:08,320
An environmental impact report means

1489
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,480
nothing in the corrupt state of

1490
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,239
California. SQA is waved all the time

1491
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,640
for dangerous and toxic projects like

1492
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:16,320
battery energy storage fire facilities

1493
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,960
because whatever makes the big political

1494
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,640
unions, big NGO profiters, big green

1495
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,560
deal scammers and the big cartel

1496
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,480
campaign funders rich is what gets a

1497
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,000
fasttrack approval. And that includes

1498
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,440
projects like border crossings which

1499
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,400
should only be built by the federal

1500
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:33,120
government, not inep Sandag. The Otame

1501
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,719
project directly violates AQ7 because it

1502
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,960
will result in other emissions such as

1503
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:38,800
those leading to odors. by encouraging

1504
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,360
unregulated building in Tijuana, which

1505
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,120
violates POP 1's substantial unplanned

1506
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,280
population growth by extending roads and

1507
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:47,600
other infrastructure. expansion of a

1508
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,600
state route by up to 25 cargo lanes and

1509
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,480
20 passenger lanes, encouraging up to

1510
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,800
12,000 cars and 1500 trucks a day that

1511
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:56,640
are so-called fossil fuel-based and do

1512
01:11:54,800 --> 01:12:00,239
not meet emission standards violates

1513
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,960
EN2's renewable energy, AQ1's, GHG1, 2,

1514
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:06,239
3, 4, and TA's emissions reduction goals

1515
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:08,320
and AQ6's carbon monoxide hotspots. What

1516
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:10,560
is the predicted GHG and VMT inventory

1517
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,120
of the OM project? And what highways are

1518
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,440
being sacrificed for those extra GHGs?

1519
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,960
I'd rather see that 1.3 billion tax

1520
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:20,000
dollars go to immediate safety measures

1521
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:22,239
for the 67 and 78. By not doing that,

1522
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,239
San is violating has four impairing

1523
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:27,040
implementation resulting in inadequate

1524
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:29,280
emergency access. Sanax's bluff tracks

1525
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,600
move in Delmare is also vi violating POP

1526
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,600
1 by displacing substantial numbers of

1527
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,199
people or housing units necessitating

1528
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,360
the construction of replacement housing

1529
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:39,520
elsewhere. The city of San Diego is

1530
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,440
violating TR4 on lack of parking supply

1531
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,000
that causes secondary environmental

1532
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:46,080
impacts. notice socialist welfare

1533
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,159
transit, tax road usage charges, higher

1534
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,679
parking pricing, managed lane pricing,

1535
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,080
and arterial and freeway speed

1536
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:54,080
reductions, which all increase VMT and

1537
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,480
emissions. And thank you for making me

1538
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,159
skim a lot of pages. I actually did it.

1539
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,000
Thank you.

1540
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:03,000
» Next is Caesar Javier, followed by Noel

1541
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,000
Garcia,

1542
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:10,719
» Cesar Purita.

1543
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:14,400
I solemnly swear to support the

1544
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:17,280
constitution. So help me God.

1545
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:20,320
What we are doing mam sir

1546
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:24,320
thank you for your presentation

1547
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:26,239
is good better best. I wonder in the

1548
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,960
presentation

1549
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:31,120
why only the air quality that is being

1550
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,840
given focus.

1551
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:36,159
This is the summation of the two uh

1552
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:40,239
presentations.

1553
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:42,080
Item four, why why only air quality

1554
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:44,800
aspect?

1555
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:48,480
Why not the geological aspect which is

1556
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:51,280
all within the sphere of the element

1557
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:53,440
shell as we were taught in the urban

1558
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,360
planning course.

1559
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:59,040
Why

1560
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:01,440
we won the war? Because of coded

1561
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:04,159
communication.

1562
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:07,199
We were taught how to read but we were

1563
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:12,080
not taught how to understand what we are

1564
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:16,000
reading. Is this how we

1565
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:19,760
swore to the constitution?

1566
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:25,400
But anyway, we are doing our best.

1567
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:25,400
And who prepares the EIR

1568
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,960
regionwide,

1569
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:33,840
citywide, communitywide?

1570
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:36,640
We the residents in the community

1571
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:40,239
suggest to you

1572
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:45,880
what is the actual front line happening

1573
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:45,880
as far as environment and listen to us.

1574
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:52,159
Is this coded?

1575
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:57,600
You didn't consider the underbed of our

1576
01:14:52,159 --> 01:15:01,159
foundation the land or geology aspect.

1577
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,159
What about hydrography?

1578
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:08,320
where our circulation mobility passes

1579
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,159
through

1580
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,159
where the airplane in the air.

1581
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:17,000
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

1582
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:17,000
is Noel Garcia followed by Carelli Sono.

1583
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:31,600
» Good morning. I am here on behalf of Mid

1584
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,440
City CAN to actually thank Sandag for

1585
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,360
its commitment to continue funding and

1586
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:37,360
give another extension to the youth

1587
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,960
opportunity pass program. At Mid City

1588
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,159
CAN, we do a lot of work advocating for

1589
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,239
spreading the word about the importance

1590
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:44,320
of the youth access to public transit to

1591
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:46,080
the residents and the local community.

1592
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,400
So, it's not just I who's grateful for

1593
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,640
the continuation of this program. It is

1594
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,440
mothers, dads, brothers, sisters,

1595
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,440
elders, and many, many workers. That

1596
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:56,880
being said, I still strongly urge that

1597
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,560
this program eventually receive the

1598
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,560
permanent funding that San Dieans

1599
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,560
deserve.

1600
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,400
» Next is Carly Srano, followed by Anna

1601
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,080
Gman.

1602
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,760
Good morning board members. My name is

1603
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,159
Carly Serrano, the transportation

1604
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,360
organizer at Mid City. I just want to

1605
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:15,040
thank you all for your continued

1606
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,800
commitment to the youth opportunity pass

1607
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,400
program, um, including it in the

1608
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,840
regional plan and extending it. Your

1609
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,520
leadership in supporting free transit

1610
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,600
for youth has made a meaningful impact

1611
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,199
across the region. We really appreciate

1612
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,280
your continued dedication to supporting

1613
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:29,440
transit dependent communities like City

1614
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,800
Heights to create a more equitable and

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01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:33,679
connected region through transit

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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,600
services. Thank you.

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01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:38,600
» Next is Anna Gman followed by Jillian

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,600
Quint.

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,199
» Good morning. My name is Arya Gman and

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01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:46,800
I'm the policy manager at Circulate San

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01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:49,600
Diego. In 2022, Circulate published a

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:52,239
report analyzing Sande's 2021 draft

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,560
plan. The report ultimately found that

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01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:57,440
the 2021 plan made billions of dollars

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01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:00,320
in speculative revenue assumptions for

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01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:02,320
for example um from road uses charges um

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,480
and enacting multiple ballot measures in

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,920
a very short span of time. Circulate is

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01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:08,400
supportive of these, you know, concepts

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:11,520
in general, but finds that they're that

1631
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:13,760
Sandex's 2021 draft for plan made very

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01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,640
um speculative and high estimations for

1633
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:18,320
these revenues. The revenues were also

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,159
set to be dedicated to extremely

1635
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,000
highcost capital projects that were

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01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:24,480
simply just not going to be built as

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,320
proposed. Circulate is supportive of

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01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:28,480
transit capital investments, but when we

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,800
prioritize unrealistic projects over

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01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:33,040
near-term transit service upgrades, we

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01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:36,080
end up with no improvements to transits

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01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:38,239
and implementing only highway projects.

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01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,880
The 2025 plan improves upon these

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01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:42,560
concerns. The revenue estimations no

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,960
longer include these unrealistic road

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01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,520
usage charges and scales back ballot

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,880
measures to a more realistic goal. It's

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,600
important to note that there is still

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,360
$14.7 billion in revenue estimations

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01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,000
that SANDAG currently doesn't have the

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01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:58,080
authority to implement as well as

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01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,239
federal discretionary award projections

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,719
which are based on the past 5 years

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01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:04,560
which is very unrealistic as the current

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01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:06,480
authorizations expire at the end of

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01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,159
2026.

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01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,080
Additionally, expenditures have made

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01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:11,840
progress. The large-scale capital

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01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,360
projects are scaled back in favor of

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,920
more near-term transit service

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,080
enhancements. Circulate supports the new

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,320
rapid routes and encourages Sande to

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01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,320
prioritize implementing rapid upgrades

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,080
as soon as possible, including the

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,800
supportive infrastructure necessary to

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,480
ensure that they are actually rapid. I

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,840
urge Sand to continue the trends I

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01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:33,840
outlined in future plans. Thank you.

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01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,560
» Next is Jillian Quint followed by Ian

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,800
Hembrey.

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01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,880
» Good morning. My name is Jillian Quint.

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,440
I represent the San Diego River Park

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,760
Foundation. We are very appreciative

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01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:48,400
that the San Diego River Trail and

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:51,360
Regional Bikeway is a featured element

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,199
in the 2025 regional plan. So many

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01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,679
members of the community, including

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01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:57,600
residents, regional travelers, and

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01:18:55,679 --> 01:18:59,840
recreational visitors have been waiting

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,719
for the completion of this vital bikeway

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01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:05,199
for over 20 years. I must also express

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01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:07,840
our gratitude to Sandax transportation

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01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:11,040
committee uh chair ZTO and vice chair

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,199
Ila Rivera for their strong and decisive

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,280
support of the West Valley River

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01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:17,120
crossing which is the pedestrian and

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01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:20,080
bike bridge. At last week's

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:22,480
transportation committee um the

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:25,040
leadership urged staff to utilize the

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01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:28,159
next funding cycle to ensure that this

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,640
crossing is funded. The West Valley

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Crossing is the crucial missing link

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:36,000
that anchors the entire river trail and

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01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:39,280
bikeway network. It's a central piece of

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:41,520
the city's natural heritage.

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01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,679
With no known opposition and so many

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01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:46,239
members of our community, using the

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01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:48,320
river trail and anticipating the future

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01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:50,560
enhanced safety and connectivity that

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01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:53,360
this crossing will bring to unlock the

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:56,320
entire regional bikeway all the way out

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:58,640
to Santi. It truly is a project that

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,800
will unite the county. As this West

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:03,600
Valley Crossing project moves forward,

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01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,840
we have one small specific request. We

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,920
ask that a note be made in somewhere

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01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,760
that when the design moves ahead for the

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:12,239
West Valley Crossing, it must include

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,080
the design eastward trail extension

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01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:15,679
toward the future Riverwalk trolley

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01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,520
station.

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01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:19,840
The good news is that the prelim

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,280
preliminary design for this extension is

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,040
being funded through the Riverwalk

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01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,840
development. However, the projects are

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:28,159
currently split in the regional plan and

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,920
with the eastward trail extension lumped

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01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:32,320
with other projects, their union is

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:34,000
essential because from a design

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:37,040
perspective, you want the pieces to

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01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:39,440
align. Thank you very much.

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01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:43,640
» Our next public comment is Ian Henry

1723
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:43,640
followed by Consuel online.

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01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,880
» Good morning, Sandag board. My name is

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01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:49,040
Ian Henry with the San Diego County

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,800
Bicycle Coalition. I want to begin by

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,040
thanking Sandag for building some of the

1728
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,640
best bike projects in the county. These

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,080
projects make biking safer and more

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01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,280
convenient, and they also make our

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,360
communities more livable and

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,960
sustainable. Uh we're happy to see that

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,120
more bike projects are included in this

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01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,640
plan. Um however, there are worrying

1735
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,880
signs that present commitment to bike

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01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:10,239
projects are under threat. In October,

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01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:12,159
Sandai gave back $3.8 million in grant

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01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,920
funding for the Pacific Highway project,

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01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:16,480
and the project is missing a project

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01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,840
delivery strategy. Pacific Highway is

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01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:19,679
one of the most dangerous roadways in

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,679
the county and the paded bike lane along

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01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:22,960
Pacific Highway has earned demerits as

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01:21:21,679 --> 01:21:25,440
one of the worst bike lanes in the

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,280
United States. It is a vital regional

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01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:29,440
connector serving as the most convenient

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01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,080
corridor to connect many of San Diego's

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01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:34,400
most dense populous neighborhoods. Last

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,560
week, Eric Wood Eric Woodson Jr. was

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,800
walking northbound along Pacific Highway

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,960
when he was struck by a driver and

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:43,120
killed. The northbound side of Pacific

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01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,280
Highway doesn't have a sidewalk. Only

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,960
the southbound side does.

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01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,640
He was killed walking in the street

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,320
because there is no sidewalk or he was

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,800
trying to cross to the other side that

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,239
does. How is Sandag's willingness to

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,840
give back grant funds for the most

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01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:58,320
dangerous roadways in the county

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01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,840
represented in the regional plan? There

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01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,760
are many assumptions about increased

1763
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,320
grant funding in this plan, but giving

1764
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,679
back grant funds for critical

1765
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,080
projects runs counter to that

1766
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:09,679
assumption. We need this board and this

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01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,000
Sandag leadership to commit to

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01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:14,880
delivering bike projects by building a

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01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,800
project delivery strategy for projects

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01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:19,360
funding projects that currently have a

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01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:21,280
project delivery strategy and not giving

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01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,679
back grants that build life-saving

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,920
infrastructure as you develop the budget

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01:22:23,679 --> 01:22:27,360
for this next year. Keep this in mind.

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01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,199
Thank you so much and have a happy

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,960
holiday season.

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01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:32,800
» We have five public comments online. The

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01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,800
first is Consuel followed by Mike

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,800
Bulock.

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:48,960
Okay. So, um

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01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:52,400
217 public commenters. Okay. So, um

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01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:54,639
index using as proof of public consent.

1783
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,320
That number means nothing when the

1784
01:22:54,639 --> 01:22:58,000
people you're questioning don't even

1785
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:00,800
understand the true power the true

1786
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:03,199
purpose of this agency. So, uh, you're

1787
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:06,639
gathering opinions from a public that's

1788
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:09,679
been kept in the dark and totally not

1789
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:11,840
informed. Um, you're asking questions,

1790
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:14,000
then using the answers to pretend people

1791
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:17,440
support policies they don't even realize

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:21,280
will restrict their daily lives. And,

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01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:23,520
um, Sadag exists solely to limit human

1794
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:26,800
mobility and not protect the

1795
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,639
environment, restrict movement. uh and

1796
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,480
you've packaged it in the nicest words

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01:23:28,639 --> 01:23:32,639
possible to equity, safety,

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01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:34,560
sustainability. Meanwhile, younger the

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01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:37,360
younger generations,

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:40,400
and I say this with sadness, um have

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01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:44,080
been manipulated so deeply that they are

1802
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:47,199
now cheering their own uh restrictions

1803
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:49,280
and they have no idea their future uh

1804
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:52,000
freedom is being quietly erased under

1805
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,400
the language of carbon reduction. And

1806
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:57,360
here's the reality. Nobody on this board

1807
01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:00,400
will say out loud, "We are the carbon

1808
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,639
they're trying to reduce." That's why

1809
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,960
mobility is being targeted, not because

1810
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:07,760
of science, but because controlling

1811
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,320
movement means controlling people. And

1812
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:13,280
the forced bike lanes,

1813
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,840
um, they're entirely inequitable. And

1814
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,840
everywhere I go in this county, people

1815
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,840
call them exactly what they are, those

1816
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,600
stupid bike lanes. I you not. Like,

1817
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,480
they're just known as those stupid bike

1818
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:27,120
lanes. Every demographic calls them

1819
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:30,400
those stupid bike lanes. Anyways,

1820
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:32,000
um yeah. So, you didn't ask the

1821
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,320
communities if they wanted them. You

1822
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:37,040
imposed them. You removed lanes,

1823
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:40,239
increase uh congestion, damaged all all

1824
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,880
by design. Uh damaged businesses, and

1825
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:45,520
made travel harder for working families.

1826
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,719
All to force everyone into a system that

1827
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,639
they never agreed to join.

1828
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:52,840
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

1829
01:24:48,639 --> 01:24:52,840
is Mike Bulock followed by Rod.

1830
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,520
» Yeah, thank you very much. Uh this Mike

1831
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:04,080
Bulock. Uh I've introduced myself

1832
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:07,280
before. Uh the FIR for the 2025 RTP does

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01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:10,800
not comply with SQA because SQA requires

1834
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:12,560
that the significant impacts of the RTP

1835
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:15,040
be described.

1836
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:17,120
The RTP fails to comply with

1837
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,520
California's official plan to achieve

1838
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,120
climate stabilization. That plan is the

1839
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,719
carb scoping plan which calls for

1840
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:29,679
reducing BMT by 25% with respect to 2019

1841
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:32,960
levels by 2030. The RTP with its SCS

1842
01:25:29,679 --> 01:25:36,480
claims to reduce driving less than 20%

1843
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:39,199
by 2035, which is 5 years later than

1844
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:41,600
2030. Therefore, the RTP will contribute

1845
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:43,760
to destabilizing the Earth's climate, an

1846
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:47,360
environmental impact that can be briefly

1847
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:50,480
described as ending life forms on Earth,

1848
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:52,480
except for microbiology. Um, it includes

1849
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,960
destroying our habitat, resulting in

1850
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:57,600
starvation, mass starvation, and human

1851
01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:01,040
extinction. Carb was tasked with

1852
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:02,639
creating its scoping plan under AB32.

1853
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,320
Now, there's no excuse for Sandag for

1854
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:07,440
not understanding this. In the famous

1855
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,440
September 11th, 2011 letter to Sandag

1856
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:12,480
from the California AG, this was written

1857
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:14,400
in the footnote on page eight. Executive

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01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,840
order S305 is the official policy of the

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,239
state of California established by

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,520
gubernatorial order in 2005 and

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01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:21,920
designated to meet the environmental

1862
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:25,199
objective that is relevant under SQA

1863
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:27,600
climate stabilization. SANDAG thus

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01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:30,480
cannot ignore it. The only difference

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01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:33,760
now is that S305 has been replaced by

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01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:35,920
SB32 which was established as a law of

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01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,159
California. Now regarding item two

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01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,960
regarding the second request by the SCS

1869
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:44,400
achieving air conformity, there are in

1870
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:47,600
effect two different carbs. One is law

1871
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:50,159
abiding. That carb created the carb

1872
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,360
scoping plan. So that's the carb that

1873
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:57,280
matters. The card that went for less

1874
01:26:53,360 --> 01:27:00,480
than 20% by 2035

1875
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:02,880
uh is ignoring SB32 and is ignoring

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01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:05,199
ignoring the common decency of

1877
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:09,960
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

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01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:09,960
is Rod followed by Paul the Bold.

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01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:18,400
» Hi. Uh my name is Rod Strier. I am a

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01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:22,320
member of the community planning group

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01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:24,480
here in Lakeside and I'm also uh

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president of Fixed Pepper Drive

1883
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:30,239
Association. I'm uh really speaking on

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01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:32,560
behalf of the Fixed Pepper Drive

1885
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:36,800
Association and specifically as a

1886
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:39,360
bicyclist here in San Diego. Um our East

1887
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:43,040
County is not really serviced very well

1888
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:45,520
with bike lanes. The main thing that we

1889
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:48,480
had requested in the public comments, I

1890
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was in uh I was one of the people that

1891
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:54,800
commented here when the U draft plan

1892
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:58,000
came by here in Elcohone was to put a

1893
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:01,360
bike lane along Pepper Drive which would

1894
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,440
connect two of the major routes uh going

1895
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:06,400
north and south and east county.

1896
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Specifically, it would have uh connected

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Winter Gardens Boulevard with Magnolia.

1898
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um it would be an on street bike way and

1899
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:19,360
so relatively inexpensive. So what I'd

1900
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,639
like to do is put into the public record

1901
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,880
here that uh we are requesting a bike

1902
01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:26,960
lane to be included. Hopefully it'll be

1903
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,440
included in the next master plan, but

1904
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,960
we'd like to see if this relatively

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01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:33,760
lowcost

1906
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:36,080
uh bike way could be uh included. It's

1907
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:41,520
about 2 and a half miles and shouldn't

1908
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:43,440
be that uh difficult to uh request. Um

1909
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that is my request. So I'd like to put

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that on the public record, please.

1911
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Next is Paul the Bold followed by the

1912
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original draw.

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Paul, you're muted.

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01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:15,120
Great. Um, sorry about that. I'm glad

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you answered every comment on the ENIR

1916
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and did in fact attach it. One major

1917
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issue NCTD brought up on page 126 is

1918
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that Sandag overestimated VMT first 20

1919
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:37,440
years because the accuracy of data used

1920
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in the EIR and the air conformity GH G

1921
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declaration.

1922
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As I said, uh I just was reminded that

1923
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:49,520
climate predictions often are based on

1924
01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:52,880
one or several particular regions and

1925
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:56,080
are not applicable to all. So the spread

1926
01:29:52,880 --> 01:30:01,360
of divergent cap projects with different

1927
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:04,800
goals in the the PFL is wasted money.

1928
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:08,560
Um the letters I know just a little

1929
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:12,159
about making bike lanes safe. I would do

1930
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:14,080
it on a city bycity basis. One set or

1931
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:17,520
size

1932
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:21,040
that are one size or set of guidelines

1933
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:23,199
does not fit all. Restoring the proposed

1934
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,880
purple line all the way to Sarrento

1935
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:29,840
Valley to its original lens makes sense.

1936
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:33,360
You should keep your promises and not

1937
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:35,760
overpromise in the first place.

1938
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Uh the meeting summary is a bit

1939
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:41,120
disturbing. The planning team had more

1940
01:30:38,239 --> 01:30:43,440
presentations to the board than actual

1941
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:47,520
workg groupoup meetings. And I suspect

1942
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:49,840
from my own experience, but the popups

1943
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:53,840
community events were skewed to what

1944
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:55,920
sandag wanted incomplete data and so on.

1945
01:30:53,840 --> 01:31:00,239
The focus seems to have been on

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01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:03,360
stakeholder groups and member agency 156

1947
01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:06,639
versus 66 meetings.

1948
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:10,000
So again, commended input was minimized,

1949
01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:11,920
probably severely misinformed, too. On

1950
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,639
the other hand, I'm glad you answered

1951
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,000
every comment on plan,

1952
01:31:14,639 --> 01:31:17,840
even if you didn't attend.

1953
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,280
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Our

1954
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,600
last public comment is the original

1955
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,920
draw.

1956
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:26,159
» Anything anytime the government talks

1957
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,880
about our health and safety and

1958
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:31,280
protecting or providing it means that

1959
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:33,040
they're going to exploit the people for

1960
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,800
profit. That's what you guys do. And

1961
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:37,280
this is all about control. And it's sad

1962
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,280
that so many people are encouraging

1963
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:41,760
their own enslavement because they don't

1964
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,440
understand because they do buy the

1965
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,840
propaganda that you guys give them

1966
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:47,920
because on the surface it seems very

1967
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:50,560
virtuous what you're doing. And so

1968
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:53,440
anybody that you know would believe that

1969
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:55,120
would would want to help and push that.

1970
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:56,880
But if you pull back the curtain and you

1971
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,360
see what's really going on, it is about

1972
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:01,440
total control. And you guys, you know,

1973
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,679
you take our money and, you know, you

1974
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:05,360
engage with contractors who wind up

1975
01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:07,199
costing us more and more money and

1976
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,280
delayed projects and things don't really

1977
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:12,239
ever get completed. Yet you start more

1978
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:14,320
and more things and you're hypocrites

1979
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:15,679
because you sit here on one hand and say

1980
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,840
you want to protect the health and

1981
01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:20,560
safety or reduce greenhouse gases, but

1982
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:22,880
then you don't go to things like another

1983
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:25,199
country to say that the vehicles that

1984
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:28,000
don't have the same emissions as we do

1985
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:30,239
here are going to be polluting in our

1986
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:33,040
area. As you can see in the South Bay,

1987
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:35,360
it has more pollution that you guys say,

1988
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:38,080
right? So, wouldn't you think like it

1989
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:40,719
you could immediately fix things if that

1990
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:43,760
was really what you were doing, but it

1991
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:46,159
isn't. It's about racketeering. It's

1992
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:48,320
about putting people in controlled

1993
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:50,239
situations where you can track and trace

1994
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:53,679
their every movement and make sure you

1995
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:55,920
have them under your thumb. And it's sad

1996
01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:58,960
because, you know, you could be doing

1997
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:01,040
things that are in line with what you

1998
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,360
speak, practice what you preach, but you

1999
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,760
guys don't because, you know, some of

2000
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,159
you probably do also buy into the BS

2001
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,080
that you are spewing out to the people.

2002
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:11,440
But it's very dangerous because at one

2003
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,719
point we're going to get to a place

2004
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,960
where we're not going to be able to

2005
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:17,600
leave our own area and people are going

2006
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,199
to see that when you're basically, you

2007
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,679
know, we're continuing to be giving back

2008
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:23,520
our own sewage. While you guys want to

2009
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:25,679
mine for lithium and use our fresh

2010
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,440
water, people need to open up their eyes

2011
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:29,360
and see and they'll see clearly what

2012
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:30,639
you're doing.

2013
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,560
» That concludes our public comment on

2014
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:34,400
this item. Chair,

2015
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,320
» Very good. Um, Antonette, would you like

2016
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,239
to make any clarifications after the

2017
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,400
public comments?

2018
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:42,080
» Sure, I can follow up on a on a couple.

2019
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,840
Um, first, there were comments about the

2020
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,560
scoping plan, and I want to clarify that

2021
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:49,520
the EI does analyze consistency with

2022
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:52,960
KRB's scoping plan. Um the scoping plan

2023
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:55,280
sets statewide goals for VMT and GHG,

2024
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,199
not regional. At the regional level, our

2025
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,600
requirement related to the scoping plan

2026
01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:01,199
is Senate Bill 375. And as I stated in

2027
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,679
the presentation, we meet the target

2028
01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:06,320
that Karp set for the region per Senate

2029
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:09,040
Bill 375. I think there were other

2030
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,719
comments related to transit and uh

2031
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,080
suggestions that there's less transit in

2032
01:34:10,719 --> 01:34:14,480
this plan. I want to clarify that this

2033
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,719
plan has more transit than the 2021

2034
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:19,120
regional plan did. and particularly in

2035
01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:21,360
the the near term more cost-effective

2036
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:23,520
improvements to existing transit and

2037
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,880
more bus service um in the near term

2038
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,400
which was based on a lot of feedback

2039
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,440
that we got about the desire for

2040
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,280
communities to have service now not 2530

2041
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:32,800
years from now. So those were two things

2042
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,679
I just wanted to clarify. Thank you for

2043
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,120
that opportunity.

2044
01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:36,800
» Sure. Very good. We'll go to member

2045
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:39,760
comments now. We'll start with Miss

2046
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:42,080
Maxon.

2047
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:44,159
» Good morning. Thank you.

2048
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:48,639
the unincorporated area is encouraged to

2049
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:50,400
see the focus on rural corridors. Um,

2050
01:34:48,639 --> 01:34:51,760
and that not only are you focusing on

2051
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,600
them, but you truly understand the

2052
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,000
importance of those rule corridors. If

2053
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:58,400
you're a resident, it's vital for work

2054
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:01,840
and school. Uh, if you're a visitor,

2055
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:04,239
it's important um for your recreational

2056
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:06,480
safety as you come out with your

2057
01:35:04,239 --> 01:35:08,480
trailers and all of your off-road

2058
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:12,639
equipment.

2059
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:16,800
the public outreach section uh of the

2060
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:19,280
regional plan uh is lacking in input

2061
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,639
from the unincorporated area. So I do

2062
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,960
encourage you to come out to where the

2063
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:24,639
people are present. Come out to each of

2064
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,639
the 18 community planning groups. Come

2065
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:30,639
out to the sponsor groups. I know you've

2066
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:33,199
done a a little bit of coming out to the

2067
01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:34,560
physical location, but there's a lot

2068
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:36,880
more to be done. And if you did, you

2069
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:39,199
might find that programs such as the

2070
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:41,199
youth opportunity pass are equally

2071
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:43,440
embraced both in the urban and suburban

2072
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:46,320
setting and in the rural setting. But

2073
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:49,440
you also might find that the common um

2074
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:52,639
themes under the squa uh the those

2075
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:55,920
themes might be quite different when you

2076
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:59,199
when you listen to the rule voice.

2077
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:01,920
Uh finally, uh as a reminder and for the

2078
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:04,560
record, as we move forward to develop

2079
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,400
this advisory seat into a voting seat in

2080
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,280
the new year, the Association of

2081
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:11,520
Planning Groups is comprised of all 18

2082
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:13,520
elected official community planning

2083
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:16,480
groups. Those members are elected by

2084
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:18,560
their community. They're on a ballot.

2085
01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:21,040
Their membership on the association is a

2086
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:23,520
voting seat. the community sponsor

2087
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:25,760
groups who we also have invited to be

2088
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,600
part of the association because we want

2089
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,679
to hear their voice. They are not

2090
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,840
elected and they are appointed by county

2091
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:34,320
supervisors to be on those boards. In

2092
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:37,280
our association, they also have advisory

2093
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:39,280
board member status. They do not vote.

2094
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,600
Um the Association of Planning Groups

2095
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:44,719
looks forward to increased equity and

2096
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:46,560
representation in 2026. Thank you for

2097
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:49,360
presenting the regional plan.

2098
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:51,600
» Thank you, Council Member Molina. Thank

2099
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:55,440
you very much, Chair Heapner. Thank you

2100
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:57,679
for the presentation and um all of the

2101
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:59,920
comments regarding the EIR. I appreciate

2102
01:36:57,679 --> 01:37:02,000
all of that. Uh, Miss Antuinette, I

2103
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:05,360
wanted to ask you some clarification

2104
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:09,119
about uh your comments regarding um the

2105
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:11,440
designation about rapid um buses and and

2106
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:14,400
I know that our or at least in the EIR

2107
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:18,480
it does state expanding bus rapid

2108
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:20,480
transit and um rapid bus lines, but uh

2109
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:23,600
can you help me understand what you your

2110
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:26,239
comment earlier regarding uh the the

2111
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:29,119
actual definition of rapid and perhaps

2112
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:31,840
it not quite fitting to what what we

2113
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:32,320
have for buses for rapid bus lines.

2114
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,920
Thank you.

2115
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:37,280
» And my comment was specific to Senate

2116
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:40,000
Bill 79 which says that a rapid bus has

2117
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:42,320
dedicated infrastructure exclusive for

2118
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:45,119
the bus service

2119
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:47,520
uh allo boarding and transit signal um

2120
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:49,280
priority all of those things. We have

2121
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,199
some of those things in some areas in

2122
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:53,360
the region. At the regional plan level

2123
01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:55,840
though we don't know what types of

2124
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,920
priority measures we will have on a on a

2125
01:37:55,840 --> 01:38:00,400
particular route. It's really a line on

2126
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:03,360
a on a map that gets refined as we get

2127
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:05,199
into the more uh detailed planning

2128
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:07,280
alternatives analysis and ultimately

2129
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:09,360
going through the environmental stage.

2130
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:12,239
But it is assumed that we will have some

2131
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:14,639
measures maybe signal priority Q jumps

2132
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:18,000
in some areas dedicated lanes managed

2133
01:38:14,639 --> 01:38:20,000
lanes are um planned through out the the

2134
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,320
regional network and will help to

2135
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:25,600
facilitate the rapid routes. But the

2136
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,600
exact um the exact route, the exact

2137
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:30,000
stops and the exact priority measures

2138
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:34,600
are confirmed later in the the planning

2139
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,600
alongside you and the transit operators.

2140
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:40,400
» Good. First, vice chair Lava.

2141
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:42,880
» Oh, thank you, Chair. Uh I want to thank

2142
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,560
Mario onet Kirsten and all the staff who

2143
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,320
have worked so very hard to bring the

2144
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,560
regional plan the environmental document

2145
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:51,040
forward and all the public who have

2146
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:52,560
provided input a plan we do every four

2147
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,320
years that was started in earnest three

2148
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,719
years ago. Three years of relentless

2149
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:59,280
outreach and analysis as was documented

2150
01:38:56,719 --> 01:39:01,520
in the presentation. The plan before us

2151
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,119
today delivers key projects across our

2152
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:06,400
region with more transit improvements

2153
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:08,719
than any prior plan. New bus routes, 36

2154
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:10,400
neighborhood shuttles, and so much more.

2155
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:11,840
reflects the priorities we hear every

2156
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,239
day in our communities. Improved

2157
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,960
mobility, affordability, climate action,

2158
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:18,800
and economic opportunity. It's also

2159
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,800
rooted in reality, acknowledging our

2160
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,880
funding constraints and limitations. I

2161
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:25,119
appreciate the plan before us today

2162
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:27,760
focuses on putting our dollars towards

2163
01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:29,119
projects we can really deliver. The

2164
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,040
practical approach that will yield

2165
01:39:29,119 --> 01:39:32,960
better, faster results for our region.

2166
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,600
We must continue to direct our focus on

2167
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:38,239
what we can realistically develop and

2168
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:40,800
deliver within this time frame. The plan

2169
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:42,719
also reflects past promises made in our

2170
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,560
commitment to keeping those promises.

2171
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:46,800
And although this plan has the smallest

2172
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,600
roadway expansion foot footprint thus

2173
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:51,199
far, it does reflect past promises kept

2174
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,920
to deliver some of those long-awaited

2175
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:55,600
projects in the pipeline. I appreciate

2176
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,199
the commitment to keeping and earning

2177
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,760
trust through the delivery of legacy

2178
01:39:57,199 --> 01:40:01,119
projects. It is also important to note,

2179
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,800
as we've heard over and over again, that

2180
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:06,320
this plan is driven by the greenhouse

2181
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:07,760
gas reduction target set by carb. We are

2182
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,760
meeting this target by setting bold

2183
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,159
goals to focus future residential and

2184
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,159
employment growth specifically in areas

2185
01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:15,920
with options like faster and frequent

2186
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:17,920
transit, complete corridors, flexible

2187
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:20,719
fleets, bikeways, and walkable

2188
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,400
neighborhoods. This plan aligns regional

2189
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:24,080
investments with our local goals,

2190
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,320
strengthening connections between where

2191
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,679
people live, work, learn, and play. And

2192
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,440
residents in our region will see

2193
01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:31,840
tangible improvements, better transit

2194
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:34,560
reliability, safer corridors, and

2195
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:36,480
cleaner air. I also want to thank not

2196
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,239
only the staff but all the board members

2197
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:40,960
uh who have helped shape this plan over

2198
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:43,600
the past four years. And I'll close by

2199
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,679
adding my support for trying to figure

2200
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,840
out the funding solution to the West

2201
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:50,400
Valley Crossing as we heard from the

2202
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:52,000
public testimony. Thank you, mayor. If

2203
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,360
it's appropriate, I'll go ahead and move

2204
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,000
that recommendation.

2205
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:58,000
» Thank you very much. Um and we'll go to

2206
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,080
Deputy Mayor Chavez. And would you like

2207
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,440
to second this?

2208
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,760
» I would like to second.

2209
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:05,360
» Very good.

2210
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:08,880
Sorry, I'm still dealing with the

2211
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:10,960
sequels of some bronchitis. Um, so I'm

2212
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:14,080
I'm just going to be brief. We need more

2213
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:17,119
bathrooms. I can't express that enough.

2214
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:19,199
We need to include him. I know we have

2215
01:41:17,119 --> 01:41:23,520
taken them away in the past. We need to

2216
01:41:19,199 --> 01:41:27,920
find a way. Uh, we have a lot of elderly

2217
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:29,520
uh youth u just parents with children.

2218
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,280
We need to be mindful moving forward

2219
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,199
that we need to include more bathrooms.

2220
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,520
We need to do better. I can talk about

2221
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:38,639
the 125 being a necessity for the South

2222
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,719
Bay. You've heard me play this song like

2223
01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:44,159
a broken record. I'm not going to give

2224
01:41:40,719 --> 01:41:47,760
it up. We need this 125 to be free. And

2225
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:51,360
also the Purple Line since we house

2226
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:54,480
every single day, not house, but we have

2227
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:57,520
daytime visitors uh around more than

2228
01:41:54,480 --> 01:42:00,239
100,000 people coming from south to

2229
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,800
north to work, to study, for tourism. I

2230
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:05,600
would love to see a deadline in the near

2231
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:08,000
future for the purple line and when

2232
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:11,199
that's happening. Thank you so much.

2233
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:14,400
» Very good. Um, Council Member um, Edson

2234
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:17,119
from NCTD.

2235
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:19,040
» Thank you, Chair. NCTD's priorities for

2236
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:21,360
the plan include Sprinter fleet

2237
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,840
replacement, double tracking to improve

2238
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,400
system reliability and enhance transit

2239
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:28,480
rider experience, coaster double

2240
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:30,320
tracking to improve system reliability

2241
01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:33,040
and enhance the transit rider

2242
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:35,360
experience. Grade separation along

2243
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:37,760
coaster and sprinter corridors to

2244
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,840
improve safety and reduce congestion in

2245
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:42,719
surrounding communities.

2246
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:46,719
Breeze bus increase capacity on key

2247
01:42:42,719 --> 01:42:49,199
corridors. NCTD plus implementation in

2248
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:51,840
strategic settings to support access to

2249
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:54,239
fixed route transit service expand

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01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:57,840
transit's reach and respond to transit

2251
01:42:54,239 --> 01:43:00,960
writers desire for ondemand transit

2252
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:03,040
service. With regard to connections, new

2253
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:06,880
services in the regional plan should

2254
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:09,360
promote connections at key transit hubs.

2255
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:11,440
Additionally, NCTD offers the following

2256
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:14,960
feedback in response to the projects

2257
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:17,600
proposed in the plan. NCTD proposes

2258
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:22,159
including Sprinter fleet replacement as

2259
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:25,679
a transit project in the plan. And CTD

2260
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:28,800
suggests including a prioritized list of

2261
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:32,960
railroad grade separation projects in an

2262
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:34,560
appendix to the plan. And finally, NCTD

2263
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:37,119
strongly supports the following

2264
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:39,840
near-term and long-term actions

2265
01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:43,119
identified in the plan. Identifying

2266
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,360
sustainable funding to continue YOP.

2267
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:47,520
Developing a strategy for implementing

2268
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:50,719
grade separation projects that improve

2269
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:52,880
safety and rail operations. Continuing

2270
01:43:50,719 --> 01:43:55,440
to implement low sand rail corridor

2271
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:58,239
improvement projects to improve safety,

2272
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:59,760
resiliency, and reliability on the

2273
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:02,400
corridor.

2274
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:04,320
corridor, sorry. Continue seeking

2275
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,719
sustainable funding for transit

2276
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:10,320
operations and flexible fleets in

2277
01:44:06,719 --> 01:44:10,960
partnership with MTS and NCTD. Thank

2278
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,000
you.

2279
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:15,760
» Thank you, Council Member Shin.

2280
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,080
» Thank you, Chair. Thank you, staff, uh,

2281
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,600
so much for this presentation. And I, as

2282
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,000
I was trying my best to read the whole

2283
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,080
thing, that must be quite a bit of, uh,

2284
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,920
work that you guys created. our city

2285
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,520
staff created a letter and I know we got

2286
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,639
feedback back and I just wanted a little

2287
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:33,920
bit more clarification in regards to um

2288
01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:36,719
the EIR is comprehensive countywide

2289
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:39,119
region regionwide um but the question

2290
01:44:36,719 --> 01:44:41,199
was asked from our staff of subreional

2291
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:43,520
analysis and I just wanted to get a

2292
01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:46,800
better understanding of why we aren't

2293
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:49,679
able to do more sub regional analysis on

2294
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:52,320
um you know on our EIR and and different

2295
01:44:49,679 --> 01:44:54,400
strategies. What we're required to do is

2296
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:56,239
a regional analysis. That's not to say

2297
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:58,080
outside of the regional plan and the EI

2298
01:44:56,239 --> 01:45:01,440
we couldn't work with you to or your

2299
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:02,800
staff to look at subregional analysis.

2300
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:04,880
» I think it I think it should be

2301
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,480
considered um like almost across the

2302
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,400
board. You know, when I'm listening to

2303
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:11,199
everyone's concerns, I'm hearing about

2304
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:13,520
the rural areas, the urban areas. I

2305
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:15,679
would love to see when I hear the

2306
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:18,719
comments and the stress about the 67

2307
01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:20,480
freeway and it's so far removed from me.

2308
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:23,199
I'd love to see the metrics of not just

2309
01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:25,440
the fact that um the default is the

2310
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:28,480
regional area, but subregionally we have

2311
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:31,600
to take exceptions meaning that okay the

2312
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:33,040
67 may alleviate some traffic but that

2313
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,639
might not be the priority of why we're

2314
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,040
doing it. It may be the public safety

2315
01:45:34,639 --> 01:45:39,679
reason or

2316
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:41,600
um some folks live in the coastal area,

2317
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:44,000
some folks live in the inland area and

2318
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:46,159
those sub regions require such a

2319
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,800
dramatically you know different sense of

2320
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:50,080
permitting processes. what we can do.

2321
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,600
Some areas aren't built up for

2322
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,119
infrastructure. Those costs are so

2323
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,119
different. And I it would just be great

2324
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:57,280
to be able to kind of get a little bit

2325
01:45:55,119 --> 01:45:59,600
more granular with these opportunities

2326
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:01,520
as opposed to saying what works in one

2327
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,040
area must work in another. We kind of

2328
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,320
deal with that in regards to the state

2329
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,800
housing. And I would just like to see

2330
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:08,560
that we're not going to be the same um

2331
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:12,080
curators of that philosophy, if you

2332
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:15,600
will. So, yield back.

2333
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:17,600
» Thank you very much, Mayor Gastelin.

2334
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,280
Thank you so much uh Antonette. Thank

2335
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:21,840
you for your time yesterday walking

2336
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:24,239
through this and thank you for all the

2337
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:26,239
time for four years that have gone into

2338
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:28,880
this. You know the next one's going to

2339
01:46:26,239 --> 01:46:30,080
start next week, right?

2340
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:32,159
» Maybe six months.

2341
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:34,719
» So I wanted to say a little bit about

2342
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:39,040
how I approached reading the regional

2343
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:42,000
transportation plan and the EIR. Um, I

2344
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:45,040
first read the 471 pages of the

2345
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,800
appendix, which is Sandag's responses to

2346
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:49,360
all of the comments that came into the

2347
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:51,280
EIR. I found Carl'sbad's letter about

2348
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,600
the subregional analysis to be very

2349
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:55,600
compelling. I found the Coastal

2350
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:57,360
Commission's letter asking for

2351
01:46:55,600 --> 01:47:00,159
consistency with the North County

2352
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:03,199
coastal cities LCPs, local coastal

2353
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:05,199
programs, and sea level rise compelling.

2354
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:09,040
And I also found the coastal

2355
01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:10,400
commission's making it clear, asking to

2356
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,560
make it clear that planning for

2357
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:14,800
realignment of the tracks in Delmare,

2358
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:18,880
now I sound like a broken record, by

2359
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:21,360
2035, be crystal clear in this plan. So

2360
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:25,520
that brings me to three points which are

2361
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:27,360
also questions. Um, one of the themes

2362
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:29,679
that came out was habitat and funding

2363
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:34,880
for habitat conservation.

2364
01:47:29,679 --> 01:47:37,760
It mentions table 25 in the in the RTP

2365
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:40,239
um talks about habitat for $ 1.5 billion

2366
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:42,320
dollars. Could you elaborate on that a

2367
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:45,040
little bit?

2368
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:46,719
» Um so 1.5 billion is there for programs

2369
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:48,719
like the EMP, but this is above and

2370
01:47:46,719 --> 01:47:52,000
beyond what we currently have in the the

2371
01:47:48,719 --> 01:47:53,199
EMP. Um Keith or Kirsten, I don't know

2372
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,440
if you want to talk a little bit about

2373
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:59,639
the types of programming uh that are

2374
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:59,639
covered by that funding.

2375
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,520
Keith, thank you also for yesterday's

2376
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,760
briefing.

2377
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,960
» My pleasure. Good morning, board. So, a

2378
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,800
question came up about the habitat

2379
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:10,320
funding in the original plan. So, right

2380
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,080
now, the regional plan looks at two

2381
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,520
things. One is the mitigation. That's

2382
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,199
the requirements to offset the

2383
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,639
transportation projects and those are

2384
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:19,199
embedded in the cost in the regional

2385
01:48:16,639 --> 01:48:20,880
plan. There's also look ahead of what

2386
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:23,040
else would be needed above and beyond

2387
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:25,360
that for the region. The regional plan

2388
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,119
has a figure in there of $ 1.5 billion

2389
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,639
as you mentioned that's in the habitat

2390
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:32,159
plans for the acquisition and completion

2391
01:48:28,639 --> 01:48:34,400
of the regional um acquisition of lands

2392
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:36,400
related to the regional plan itself and

2393
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,400
you've heard today a desire for some

2394
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:40,880
people to push that beyond and to

2395
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,239
complete the funding for the region. So

2396
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,679
that's above and beyond the regional

2397
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:45,840
plan itself. That would be an additional

2398
01:48:43,679 --> 01:48:47,840
$ 1.5 billion. But there's a commitment

2399
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:49,679
in the regional plan to complete an

2400
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,520
assessment of what's needed for the

2401
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:53,199
region to do the habitat conservation

2402
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:55,280
plans that many jurisdictions have

2403
01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:57,119
approved and what it would take to

2404
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,800
finish those plans up both cost and

2405
01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:00,080
actual implementation that will be

2406
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,000
completed as part of the regional plan's

2407
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,520
near-term implementation this fall.

2408
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,119
» Great. Thank you. This is a really

2409
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,199
important part of the plan and I wanted

2410
01:49:05,119 --> 01:49:09,760
to make sure that we all understood that

2411
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:12,000
this is there. It little tiny habitat

2412
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:14,800
losses can be huge. For example, the

2413
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:17,280
0.28 wetlands that were lost recently

2414
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,880
with the paving of basically a half a

2415
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:21,199
mile of wetland along the toe of the

2416
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,360
bluff up above east of the railroad

2417
01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:25,440
tracks. The frogs aren't there anymore.

2418
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,679
They're gone. And I know I sound like a

2419
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:29,440
broken record on that also, but they're

2420
01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:32,239
wonderful frogs and we don't have many

2421
01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:35,119
frog habitats here in San Diego County.

2422
01:49:32,239 --> 01:49:38,080
Um TL00003

2423
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:40,480
is Oceanside to downtown San Diego and

2424
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:43,600
it includes realignment in Delmare.

2425
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:46,320
That's a $4.3 billion item that's only

2426
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:48,800
in the north county part. Is that $4

2427
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:52,920
billion mostly going to be the cost of

2428
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,920
the actual realignment itself?

2429
01:49:54,159 --> 01:49:57,159
TL003.

2430
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:04,400
» You can answer that question later if

2431
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,000
you don't have the answer immediately

2432
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:10,960
right now. That's okay. Yeah. So, let's

2433
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:12,960
let's pin that question. And the last is

2434
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,560
in reading through all the items for

2435
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:17,280
each of the different regions. So we

2436
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:19,199
have north county, east county, central

2437
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:21,600
county and south county. There's some

2438
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:24,000
elephants that appear multiple times. An

2439
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:28,080
example is TL00004

2440
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:30,719
which is 9.144 billion. And that one is

2441
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:32,719
Camp Pendleton to downtown San Diego

2442
01:50:30,719 --> 01:50:36,480
grade separations curve straightening

2443
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:39,119
myar tunnel. And that's a 2050 visionary

2444
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:40,719
item, but it appears three times. So I

2445
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:43,440
just want to make sure that when you add

2446
01:50:40,719 --> 01:50:46,000
it all up, that nine billion dollars is

2447
01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:50,199
counted only once and not three times.

2448
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,199
So can you confirm that

2449
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:55,840
and if you don't have that right away,

2450
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,760
you can. Yeah, let's just make sure the

2451
01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:00,239
math is right. So we have so to

2452
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:03,840
summarize, we have a 125 billion

2453
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:05,679
strategic plan. It's all in. And I think

2454
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,159
it's very important to note that this is

2455
01:51:05,679 --> 01:51:10,719
not just SANDAG's budget. This is also

2456
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:14,320
Calrans. There there funds involved here

2457
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:16,480
that are Calrans funds, MTS funds, NCTD

2458
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:20,159
and housing projects and more.

2459
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:22,639
» So the $125 billion is more than Sandag.

2460
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:24,080
Sandag's at the heart of it. So I I

2461
01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:27,320
wanted to echo that. We talked about

2462
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,320
that yesterday.

2463
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:33,600
» Hi, Rachel Kennedy. and um one of the

2464
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,360
planning managers here at Sandex. So we

2465
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:37,040
do have some projects in appendix A

2466
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,800
where we list them in multiple sub

2467
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,560
regions because they're projects that

2468
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,560
provide access and benefit to multiple

2469
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:45,119
multiple sub regions but we only count

2470
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:47,760
the cost one time. So yes,

2471
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:51,199
» Just making sure.

2472
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:52,480
» Thank you, Mayor Mento.

2473
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:54,480
» Well, thanks for the opportunity to

2474
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:56,400
speak. A lot of work. There's no doubt

2475
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:59,679
otherwise it wouldn't have taken three

2476
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:02,400
or four years. Well, unless you guys

2477
01:51:59,679 --> 01:52:04,400
just, you know, going that slow. I don't

2478
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,880
think so.

2479
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,360
» So, I just kind of want to put some

2480
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:12,320
things into perspective

2481
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:15,280
uh for if not at least for myself, for

2482
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:18,960
me maybe many others and others who are

2483
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:21,119
uh looking on. This is I think my third

2484
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:23,599
maybe my fourth regional plan that I've

2485
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:26,800
been involved in.

2486
01:52:23,599 --> 01:52:29,840
And one thing that I realize is that the

2487
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:32,480
county and the cities are all

2488
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:34,800
responsible for transportation and

2489
01:52:32,480 --> 01:52:36,320
environment and whatnot within their

2490
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:38,560
jurisdictions.

2491
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:40,800
Unfortunately, many many years or I

2492
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:43,280
should say fortunately many many years

2493
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:46,080
ago it was found that we couldn't do

2494
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:49,119
that very well individually. The money

2495
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:51,760
wasn't there individually at the county

2496
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:54,719
level or the city level. So they created

2497
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:57,520
this crazy organization here to try and

2498
01:52:54,719 --> 01:53:01,520
coordinate all that together. So when we

2499
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:03,679
all talk about um specific regional uh

2500
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:06,480
areas, that's okay because they have to

2501
01:53:03,679 --> 01:53:08,719
be represented. And uh you know, Kevin,

2502
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:12,000
you you touched on it that uh we don't

2503
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:13,440
always speak specifically about like for

2504
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,840
instance, I don't talk about what's

2505
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:17,840
going on in in your neck of the woods

2506
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:20,800
and you don't really talk about what's

2507
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:22,480
going on in my area, but I think uh one

2508
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,239
thing that we realize is that we do have

2509
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:26,560
to help each other to make sure that

2510
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:29,199
things get accomplished.

2511
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:31,199
And so uh that's one thing that um I

2512
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:33,760
want to continue to encourage is

2513
01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:37,119
everybody keep thinking regionally. It's

2514
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:39,920
not just about our individual um places.

2515
01:53:37,119 --> 01:53:41,920
And then when we talk about um reducing

2516
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:44,320
vehicle miles traveled, one of the

2517
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:47,199
things that we sometimes don't talk

2518
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:49,119
about is the fact that in the last few

2519
01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:51,599
years we've uh been encouraging

2520
01:53:49,119 --> 01:53:53,599
manufacturing and businesses to uh

2521
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:56,239
spread out and not to be in just one

2522
01:53:53,599 --> 01:53:58,960
area, whether it's Sereno Valley or

2523
01:53:56,239 --> 01:54:00,800
downtown, etc. So what happens is that

2524
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:03,360
people don't necessarily always have to

2525
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:06,880
travel as far to go from maybe the east

2526
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:09,119
county to Seno Valley or downtown. And

2527
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,599
so that helps to reduce vehicle miles

2528
01:54:09,119 --> 01:54:14,480
traveled. So having more um

2529
01:54:11,599 --> 01:54:15,920
manufacturing and business spread out is

2530
01:54:14,480 --> 01:54:18,480
something that we should also

2531
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:20,480
continuously talked about with with our

2532
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:24,080
economic development councils and our

2533
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:26,239
even our um community uh com chambers of

2534
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,440
commerce,

2535
01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:29,520
excuse me.

2536
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:32,320
One thing I do want to also talk about

2537
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:35,440
is um some of the comments that were

2538
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:41,960
made about uh public safety as far as

2539
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:41,960
pedestrian and bicycle lanes and um

2540
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:48,800
there's every bit of work that we do to

2541
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:52,000
engineer bicycle lanes, pedestrian

2542
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:54,800
safety, and even motor vehicle safety.

2543
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:57,119
It can only go so far. We have to take

2544
01:54:54,800 --> 01:55:00,159
in consideration that there are so many

2545
01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:02,239
people out there that do not exercise

2546
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:05,440
personal safety when they're driving,

2547
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:07,440
walking, or bicycling. And as tragic as

2548
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,080
it is that there would be somebody

2549
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:12,480
severely injured or even killed in these

2550
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:15,360
areas, we have to also remember it's not

2551
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:18,800
necessarily always the roadway or the

2552
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:22,239
infrastructure that did that. Um, I have

2553
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:25,119
personally bicycled over 6,000 miles on

2554
01:55:22,239 --> 01:55:26,960
the roads in East County and part of La

2555
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:30,400
Mesa and Lemong Grove. I' I've mentioned

2556
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:33,119
it many times here and I continue to see

2557
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:35,040
people that are riding bicycles in an

2558
01:55:33,119 --> 01:55:37,520
unsafe manner. They ride on the wrong

2559
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:39,840
side of the street. I see people walking

2560
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:42,239
in the street and um where they

2561
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:44,080
shouldn't be or you would think that

2562
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:46,880
common sense would say you don't walk in

2563
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:49,920
the street if there's a sidewalk. And

2564
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:52,080
so, and and I don't want to say any of

2565
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:54,480
this to diminish, you know, the

2566
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:56,960
tragedies that occur. I just want us to

2567
01:55:54,480 --> 01:56:00,400
also consider that we can't spend every

2568
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:03,360
dime that we have to make a street safe

2569
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:07,199
when people won't act safely on those

2570
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:09,599
streets and whatnot. So, um, so that was

2571
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:13,199
important for me. And then and I do want

2572
01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:15,679
to address real quickly uh that uh the

2573
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:20,159
gentleman Ryan that mentioned the pepper

2574
01:56:15,679 --> 01:56:23,280
grow uh pepper drive um uh bicycling

2575
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:26,239
lanes u and the fact that it would be

2576
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:28,639
pretty inexpensive just to you know draw

2577
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:31,360
some lines down there. Well, I've been

2578
01:56:28,639 --> 01:56:34,639
on that road many times and I try not to

2579
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:36,400
go on that road because it's unsafe. Not

2580
01:56:34,639 --> 01:56:38,320
just because there's not a bicycle lane,

2581
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:41,599
but because the road conditions there

2582
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:44,000
are terrible. Um, it's really old there,

2583
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:46,159
for instance. And so there there's not

2584
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:48,719
really a curb. There's not a gutter.

2585
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:50,719
There's no sidewalks. So, you'd have to

2586
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:53,760
do a complete infrastructure change

2587
01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:55,679
there. And I know that uh our supervisor

2588
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,440
for that area would love to do that, but

2589
01:56:55,679 --> 01:57:01,040
you know what? The county still has

2590
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:03,199
limited funds also. And um I know in my

2591
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:05,599
city we got a grant and to me it was

2592
01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:08,000
wasted money because we put bicycle

2593
01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:10,400
lanes on a roadway that was just unsafe

2594
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:12,639
for anybody to drive on because of the

2595
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:14,480
condition of the roadway. And so then

2596
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:17,199
you know 6 months a year later we come

2597
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:19,199
by and we re repave that road. Now we

2598
01:57:17,199 --> 01:57:22,239
got to spend all that money again to put

2599
01:57:19,199 --> 01:57:24,880
bicycle lanes and traffic lanes. So we

2600
01:57:22,239 --> 01:57:27,840
also have to think about when do we put

2601
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:29,840
this stuff on the roadways? Are we

2602
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:31,760
spending money and then we're going to

2603
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,719
have to respend it? So, that's a waste

2604
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:36,560
of time, waste of money. And um I think

2605
01:57:34,719 --> 01:57:38,560
we get a lot of that at our local

2606
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,800
levels. People talk about that thing all

2607
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:43,280
the time. Uh why did you do this? You're

2608
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,599
wasting money. Well, I think we should

2609
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:47,920
at this much higher level think about

2610
01:57:45,599 --> 01:57:49,920
the same thing. What do we have to do

2611
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,840
first in order to save the greatest

2612
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:54,239
amount of money to make our roads as

2613
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:56,560
safe as possible? considering that not

2614
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:59,280
everybody appreciates the work that we

2615
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:01,760
do. And that's all I have to say.

2616
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:03,920
» Thank you, Mayor Jones.

2617
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:07,199
» Thank you so much, Chair. Uh, first I'd

2618
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:08,960
like to start by saying this um this

2619
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:11,840
plan, thank you for all of the work uh

2620
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:14,719
that staff put into it, but also for

2621
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:17,119
leadership because I I have to say after

2622
01:58:14,719 --> 01:58:19,280
being on the board uh when the last plan

2623
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:21,520
came forward and then now it's a totally

2624
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:24,080
different experience. I actually feel

2625
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:26,800
heard. Um, and I know that many of us,

2626
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:28,560
you know, do feel feel the same way, you

2627
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:32,880
know. Um,

2628
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:35,440
the transparency that is in this and not

2629
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:37,520
not having to feel like you have to look

2630
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,880
and read things over and over to see if

2631
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,360
you're reading it right because things

2632
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:44,000
are hidden. That that to me is a is a

2633
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:45,679
big deal. Um, you know, so I I do have a

2634
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:48,239
couple of clarifying questions and then

2635
01:58:45,679 --> 01:58:50,800
I have um some other comments. But first

2636
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:53,280
of all, there's no local road user

2637
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,560
charge or tax or fee or anything in this

2638
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,880
plan. Right.

2639
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:59,280
» Correct. Okay. I want everyone to hear

2640
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,960
that. So when we have people out there

2641
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,800
dramatizing and acting like there

2642
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:05,920
actually is one in here, there's not one

2643
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:09,040
in here that's a local road user tax or

2644
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:11,119
fee. Um there is however the state one

2645
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:13,599
which we have no control over. It it is

2646
01:59:11,119 --> 01:59:15,440
in this plan. Um there's no federal one

2647
01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:17,280
though, but there was at our last in the

2648
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:20,639
last plan it was federal, state and

2649
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:23,840
local. No local uh one in this one. Um

2650
01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:26,719
there is however a 3/4 cent tax that

2651
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:28,320
will be predicted and this so us

2652
01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:30,960
approving this plan does not mean that

2653
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:33,119
we are approving a tax. It means that we

2654
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:36,080
know that we're going to need some sort

2655
01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:38,239
of uh funding mechanism that's about 3/4

2656
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:40,159
of a cent. You know, for me, I always

2657
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:41,679
talk about OPM in my city. Everyone

2658
01:59:40,159 --> 01:59:44,159
knows exactly what I mean when I say

2659
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:46,159
that, but it's other people's money. Um

2660
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:48,719
I do know that we need to have local

2661
01:59:46,159 --> 01:59:51,440
funds to get matching funds. So, uh

2662
01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:55,440
that's kind of the u the more complex

2663
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:57,920
part of this, but um I I do want to talk

2664
01:59:55,440 --> 02:00:00,400
specifically about Transnet.

2665
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:03,119
I was thinking it ended in 2040 and then

2666
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:06,159
I looked on chat GBT and then I and it

2667
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:08,560
said 2048. So, it's actually 2048.

2668
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:10,080
» Um and then and by the way, I never use

2669
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,440
it. I thought, you know, everyone tells

2670
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:15,280
me to use it. I'm I'm going to fact

2671
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:16,960
check things. Um, so it so this plan

2672
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:19,280
actually says that there will be a new

2673
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:20,239
tax approved, I believe, in 2038,

2674
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,199
starting in 20

2675
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:24,760
» I think 2036.

2676
02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:24,760
» Is it 2039?

2677
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:31,440
Sorry. So this would be only if

2678
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:32,480
residents of the county

2679
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,320
» Vote for this.

2680
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,840
» Correct. Good morning. U Michelle Smith,

2681
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,719
manager of financial programming. Yes.

2682
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:40,960
So we assume one an additional transnet

2683
02:00:38,719 --> 02:00:43,199
sales tax in 2038 for the three

2684
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:46,239
quarters. The other sales tax that's

2685
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:47,599
closer is the MTS sales tax that is

2686
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:49,440
assumed for 2036

2687
02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:50,560
» And that would be just for the MTS

2688
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:53,280
service area.

2689
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:56,000
» Correct. And the 2038 is it starts in

2690
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:57,280
2038 or it's approved and it needs to be

2691
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,960
approved in 2038.

2692
02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:00,960
» It would be approved in 2038. So what we

2693
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,960
assumed is like a small like a quarter

2694
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:04,000
of that would be in 2038 and the rest

2695
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:07,599
would start later.

2696
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:09,520
» Correct. Okay. Um, and then um, okay,

2697
02:01:07,599 --> 02:01:12,639
thank you on that. I just wanted to get

2698
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:14,639
clarification on that. You know, and you

2699
02:01:12,639 --> 02:01:16,159
know, back to the whole transparency. I

2700
02:01:14,639 --> 02:01:18,320
know that all of North County, we've

2701
02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:20,880
been talking time and time again, we did

2702
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:22,719
not want any current lanes and that this

2703
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:26,239
was in the last plan, which everyone

2704
02:01:22,719 --> 02:01:29,679
knows. Um, no current lanes on the

2705
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:32,960
freeways to be converted from a regular

2706
02:01:29,679 --> 02:01:35,360
general purpose lane into a manage lane,

2707
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,800
toll road, anything like that. I just

2708
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,480
want to get clarification on that

2709
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,480
because again, you know, this is one of

2710
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:42,080
the things that we were running into. I

2711
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:44,560
think in the last plan that was so

2712
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:46,800
frustrating because we would ask these

2713
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:50,159
questions and our director at the time

2714
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:52,239
would say, "Well, that's not what it

2715
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:53,679
says." But it actually was what it said.

2716
02:01:52,239 --> 02:01:55,760
It was just named something different.

2717
02:01:53,679 --> 02:01:59,840
So, I just want to get clarification.

2718
02:01:55,760 --> 02:02:01,599
There are no lanes in um in North County

2719
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:04,400
that are on that are highway lanes on

2720
02:02:01,599 --> 02:02:07,520
the 15, the 78, the five that are going

2721
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:10,159
to be converted to um lanes that are

2722
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:11,599
general purpose lanes. the HOV lanes on

2723
02:02:10,159 --> 02:02:13,360
the five, but not the general purpose

2724
02:02:11,599 --> 02:02:14,239
lanes, and we're adding managed lanes on

2725
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:16,880
the 78.

2726
02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:18,080
» Correct. Adding not, it's a new ad, not

2727
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,880
uh something that's current and

2728
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:22,080
existing. This is a big deal because,

2729
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,760
you know, we've talked about this time

2730
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:26,159
and time again. It's been very

2731
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:29,199
frustrating. And I did see in here

2732
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:34,080
finally uh the um oh, let me find it

2733
02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:36,000
real quick. My tabs everywhere. uh the

2734
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:40,320
uh TL046

2735
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:43,599
on page A20 of appendix A, that's the um

2736
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:46,000
new uh bus rapid transit.

2737
02:02:43,599 --> 02:02:49,040
So I I do want to I do want to mention

2738
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:52,159
that because 2035 is when it's predicted

2739
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:53,840
to happen. Um is that correct? No.

2740
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:56,400
» So we don't do year-by-year phasing in

2741
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:57,920
the regional plan. So that's by 2035. We

2742
02:02:56,400 --> 02:03:00,239
kicked off planning for that now. So,

2743
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:02,080
the likelihood that it'll be much sooner

2744
02:03:00,239 --> 02:03:03,599
uh than 2035, but it's in that time

2745
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:05,119
frame, the early years of the plan.

2746
02:03:03,599 --> 02:03:06,480
» Perfect. I wanted to double check on

2747
02:03:05,119 --> 02:03:08,159
that because, you know, we have the new

2748
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,760
scripts hospital that's coming to San

2749
02:03:08,159 --> 02:03:12,239
Marco specifically and then Kaiser

2750
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:14,560
Permanente just opened up. Um but that's

2751
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:17,679
going to land at um and that's from

2752
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:21,760
Riverside, Tmacula area to Palomar

2753
02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:23,360
College and then um also CSUSM. Correct.

2754
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:25,199
» Yes. And we're doing the route planning

2755
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:26,480
now. So if there are other stops that

2756
02:03:25,199 --> 02:03:28,400
you want us to consider, we'll be

2757
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:30,880
working with your staff, NCTD and the

2758
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:32,880
other jurisdictions to identify that.

2759
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:34,800
» So I've specifically heard from Palomar

2760
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,960
Hospital and then also uh Kaiser

2761
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:38,159
Permanente. So those two um if we

2762
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,719
haven't reached out to them, I would

2763
02:03:38,159 --> 02:03:43,760
definitely um like for that to happen.

2764
02:03:40,719 --> 02:03:46,480
And then um let's see. I think that was

2765
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:50,159
it. I mean I I really I really am just

2766
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:52,880
loving the um uh the NCTD plus which you

2767
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:56,719
know I know Juwel's here today for them.

2768
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:59,040
We we really are um finding that that is

2769
02:03:56,719 --> 02:04:01,040
so helpful for people in our community.

2770
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:02,880
Obviously, we want to expand that, but I

2771
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:05,280
I really like seeing that we're also

2772
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:07,840
bringing that to Fbrook and some of the

2773
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,040
unincorporated areas because if you

2774
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:11,520
don't have it yet, and I know um

2775
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:13,119
Escandido, uh Dane's over there, you're

2776
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:15,520
going to love it. It's great. It's on

2777
02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:18,000
demand. Um our residents really find it

2778
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:20,000
beneficial and they can't they just

2779
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,280
can't say enough about it. So, anyway, I

2780
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,800
love it when I come into my little

2781
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:25,520
neighborhood and I see it. I see it

2782
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:27,360
there. Um, uh, stopped and and read and

2783
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:29,520
picking up people. So, it's really a

2784
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,119
great thing. Um, and I know that our

2785
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,400
high school students want to use it. So,

2786
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:35,119
I think that's one of the things that

2787
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:38,400
would be helpful. And other than that,

2788
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:39,920
um, oh, one other thing, SB 375, when do

2789
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,199
we think there might we might see some

2790
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:42,800
reform on that? Because there's been a

2791
02:04:41,199 --> 02:04:45,280
lot of discussion about that. week we

2792
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:49,599
will be coming to the executive

2793
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:52,239
committee in January to bring up where

2794
02:04:49,599 --> 02:04:54,719
we are with the discussions and ask

2795
02:04:52,239 --> 02:04:56,719
guidance from the executive committee of

2796
02:04:54,719 --> 02:04:58,480
where we should continue going

2797
02:04:56,719 --> 02:05:00,880
» And might some executive committee

2798
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,960
members uh end up going to Sacramento to

2799
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:05,360
talk about this because I would love to

2800
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:07,360
be part of that. I I know Cher and I

2801
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:09,920
have talked about that. Um we definitely

2802
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:11,599
need to hear from everyone. I think

2803
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:13,840
that, you know, we need some reform on

2804
02:05:11,599 --> 02:05:14,560
this and some relief.

2805
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:15,760
» Perfect.

2806
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:19,040
» Thank you.

2807
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:20,239
» Thank you. Um, Council Member Fischer,

2808
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:22,080
» Thank you, Chair. I just want to echo

2809
02:05:20,239 --> 02:05:23,520
the sentiments from Mayor Jones. You

2810
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,360
know, I was on the board a few years

2811
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:27,119
back. All we talked about was the

2812
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:30,480
mileage tax and getting out of the plan.

2813
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:31,920
It really was um I felt it was laborious

2814
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:33,840
just hearing about I can't imagine how

2815
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:36,560
staff felt about having to go back and

2816
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:38,320
create a plan and get all the approvals.

2817
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:41,599
Um it's good to see a plan that doesn't

2818
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:43,599
involve this um big thing of five big

2819
02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:45,599
moves and all the stuff that seems like

2820
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:47,119
it'd be nice but probably unrealistic

2821
02:05:45,599 --> 02:05:48,400
and staff have to just run around and

2822
02:05:47,119 --> 02:05:50,159
figure out how to do it. And and to

2823
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:52,400
Mayor Mayor Jones's comments, you know,

2824
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:55,199
we we heard a lot from from the seat

2825
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:57,520
over here um that made us think things

2826
02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:58,320
were okay, but um it really wasn't.

2827
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,440
There wasn't a whole lot of

2828
02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:01,199
transparency. So I appreciate the

2829
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:03,040
transparency. I appreciate staff

2830
02:06:01,199 --> 02:06:05,599
bringing something to the board um

2831
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:06,880
that's very practical in nature. Um, you

2832
02:06:05,599 --> 02:06:08,400
know, I can't imagine what it's like

2833
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:10,880
doing a plan like this. I figure it's

2834
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,639
probably aching to having a family of

2835
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:14,639
six going on vacation, having to pack

2836
02:06:12,639 --> 02:06:16,480
all their clothes for two seasons and

2837
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:19,440
three weeks in a suitcase and hoping it

2838
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:22,560
fits on the airplane um is and is okay,

2839
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:24,400
but uh staff always does a great job

2840
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:26,480
with this. We've heard a lot of support

2841
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:28,800
for the youth opportunity pass. I'm a

2842
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:30,880
big believer that it has been good for

2843
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:32,320
our region. I mentioned it once in a

2844
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:34,400
board meeting probably a little bit more

2845
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:35,599
passively but I you know as we go

2846
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,880
forward I really want to look at

2847
02:06:35,599 --> 02:06:39,520
something providing something for our

2848
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:41,119
seniors um and and something that you

2849
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:43,920
know be like a senior responsibility

2850
02:06:41,119 --> 02:06:46,960
pass youth at some point turn into young

2851
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:49,119
adults into adults seniors don't really

2852
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,880
change from being seniors and we know

2853
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:54,960
that their their large population is

2854
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:56,800
growing for um being h unhoused and I'm

2855
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:58,239
sure the financial strains are very

2856
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:59,920
difficult on them and I think that it

2857
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:03,440
would be something that we should look

2858
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:04,800
at. Um because at some point we will

2859
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:07,119
have a lot of seniors who will be

2860
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:08,800
needing transportation and probably will

2861
02:07:07,119 --> 02:07:10,320
be struggling unlike our youth who I've

2862
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:11,920
heard we we've heard from today. I'm

2863
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:14,239
grateful they're here in attendance and

2864
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:15,760
to speak up. That's that's wonderful. Uh

2865
02:07:14,239 --> 02:07:17,520
but I think our seniors should probably

2866
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:20,560
have some opportunities in in the future

2867
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:23,760
to have access to transit for a reduced

2868
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:27,599
or free uh cost. Thank you.

2869
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:29,760
» Thank you, Supervisor Gary.

2870
02:07:27,599 --> 02:07:32,719
» Thank you, Chair. I I want to start by

2871
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:35,840
thanking staff um for all of their work

2872
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:37,840
around this plan. I I think it's really

2873
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:40,159
great that it's guided by convenience,

2874
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:42,480
equity, health, and safety. Uh

2875
02:07:40,159 --> 02:07:44,320
obviously, uh those are priorities for a

2876
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:46,000
region that we've all, including the

2877
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:49,360
board and staff, have been working very

2878
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:51,840
very hard to prioritize. I I want to

2879
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:54,239
center my remarks around equity. I think

2880
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:57,199
that it's incredibly important to ensure

2881
02:07:54,239 --> 02:07:59,360
that um people have the same uh

2882
02:07:57,199 --> 02:08:01,440
opportunities in all of our regions

2883
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:04,639
throughout the county. Uh I think it's

2884
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:07,119
very important to uh make sure that our

2885
02:08:04,639 --> 02:08:09,840
uh public transit for example offers

2886
02:08:07,119 --> 02:08:12,639
opportunities especially for uh you know

2887
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:16,000
young adults that are uh on their path

2888
02:08:12,639 --> 02:08:20,480
to entering the workforce uh have the

2889
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:22,400
ability to uh reach uh job centers uh

2890
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:24,400
that are accessible by transit. So I

2891
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:26,159
think I really I really like that we're

2892
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:27,920
moving in the right direction with the

2893
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:30,000
purple line. I think that's incredibly

2894
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:34,800
important. I think it's also important

2895
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:36,480
to um look at uh the 24hour um and

2896
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:38,560
express service for the blue line, the

2897
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:41,760
black the backbone of our public transit

2898
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:44,320
system that is um so important for so

2899
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:46,880
many people who work and and come across

2900
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:49,679
the border um on a daily basis. I think

2901
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:52,079
that's incredibly important. Um, I think

2902
02:08:49,679 --> 02:08:54,400
it's really important to focus on the

2903
02:08:52,079 --> 02:08:57,280
flexible fleet microtransit because it

2904
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:59,760
not only brings benefits uh to reducing

2905
02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:02,159
greenhouse gas emissions, but especially

2906
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:03,840
in in unincorporated areas in more of

2907
02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:06,000
the rural areas or where there's more

2908
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:08,000
limited public transit like in North

2909
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:10,639
County, I think that first mile, last

2910
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:12,480
mile traveled will be um essential and

2911
02:09:10,639 --> 02:09:14,480
and by implementing these types of

2912
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:16,560
fleets will be very important. So, I I

2913
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:19,760
appreciate that we're focusing on that.

2914
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:22,320
And then as it relates to uh safety, I

2915
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:25,440
think it's great that we're focusing on

2916
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:26,639
complete corridors. Um I just wanted to

2917
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:29,280
mention the Federal Highway

2918
02:09:26,639 --> 02:09:31,280
Administration evaluations show that

2919
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:34,880
complete corridor treatment reduces

2920
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:37,119
crashes by 19 to 47%

2921
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:39,920
with strong reductions in pedestrian

2922
02:09:37,119 --> 02:09:42,400
safety. Raise medians and pedestrian

2923
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:44,800
refuge islands reduce pedestrian crashes

2924
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:47,840
by 46%.

2925
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:51,199
Curb extensions uh reduce pedestrian

2926
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:53,840
crashes for by up to 40%. And we know

2927
02:09:51,199 --> 02:09:56,079
that every 10 miles per hour that are

2928
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:59,280
reduced, the likelihood of someone

2929
02:09:56,079 --> 02:10:00,880
surviving increases. So if you are

2930
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,040
involved in a crash, if you're a

2931
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:06,000
pedestrian that gets struck by a car

2932
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:08,800
moving at 40 miles hour, your likelihood

2933
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:12,400
of surviving is something close to 5%.

2934
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:15,679
If it's 30 miles per hour, your chances

2935
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:18,400
of surviving increase. Especially uh

2936
02:10:15,679 --> 02:10:20,560
when you're talking about between 20 and

2937
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:24,000
25 miles per hour, your chances of

2938
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:25,920
surviving exceed 85 to 90%. Now, I'm not

2939
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:28,560
advocating, of course, for freeways to

2940
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:31,119
be limited to 20 miles per hour. But

2941
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:33,520
it's important because as we look at the

2942
02:10:31,119 --> 02:10:35,440
next five years, planning regionally,

2943
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:37,840
these complete corridors are incredibly

2944
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:40,960
important for especially families that

2945
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:44,000
are walking their kids, seniors that are

2946
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:46,880
um having trouble crossing a a very wide

2947
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:49,599
roadway and may not be fast enough to

2948
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:52,880
beat the red light. We are seeing an

2949
02:10:49,599 --> 02:10:54,400
unprecedented amount of uh deaths. I'm

2950
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:57,440
pretty sure you've been watching it

2951
02:10:54,400 --> 02:11:00,719
every day on the news. there's a new uh

2952
02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:03,360
you know accident a fatal accident and

2953
02:11:00,719 --> 02:11:06,880
um I think it's important that you know

2954
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:08,800
we do it planning well it may not be

2955
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:10,800
right for some communities as the mayor

2956
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:12,800
mental mentioned but for example in

2957
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:14,960
Imperial Beach where we have it's a

2958
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:17,760
bedroom comm community where we have a

2959
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:20,960
lot of young families with kiddos that's

2960
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:24,239
absolutely essential to to ensure that

2961
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:27,360
uh families um can can walk to and from

2962
02:11:24,239 --> 02:11:29,199
school uh in a safe way. So, I I think

2963
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:32,400
that's that's really important. And I'll

2964
02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:35,760
just close with um thanking uh staff

2965
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:40,000
again for all of your hard work um and

2966
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:43,840
um echoing my colleagues uh calls to um

2967
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:45,760
um address the issue with the 125 and

2968
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:47,760
continuing to uplift the youth

2969
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:49,360
opportunity passes, which is incredibly

2970
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:50,000
important to me, too. Thank you very

2971
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:53,880
much.

2972
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:53,880
» Thank you, Mayor Sanchez.

2973
02:11:55,119 --> 02:12:00,320
Thank you very much. Um I want to thank

2974
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:04,239
staff for the presentation. Um I

2975
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:07,199
actually want to thank um uh staff and

2976
02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:09,520
uh my colleagues. Um because it's my

2977
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:12,560
first year on Sandag and of course I had

2978
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:14,560
heard a few things about what had

2979
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:16,719
happened in the past and so I wondered

2980
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:20,400
what this year was going to be like. I

2981
02:12:16,719 --> 02:12:23,520
want to say that I've I've been um uh

2982
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:26,159
thoroughly amazed at the level of uh

2983
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:29,440
cooperation, coordination, and and just

2984
02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:32,719
being able to be heard. Um as the most

2985
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:34,560
northern um city in San Diego County um

2986
02:12:32,719 --> 02:12:37,119
and certainly

2987
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:39,280
having different needs than say a

2988
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:43,440
metropolitan area, I' I've really

2989
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:46,560
appreciated being heard. um um it's it's

2990
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:48,880
uh at c certain levels at government I

2991
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:50,800
you know we feel like uh there are

2992
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:55,440
certain assumptions that are made that

2993
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:57,920
just don't apply and so uh for me to uh

2994
02:12:55,440 --> 02:13:01,199
be able to see that our diverse

2995
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:03,599
communities in San Diego County um the

2996
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:06,719
needs are are being heard and are being

2997
02:13:03,599 --> 02:13:10,079
taken into consideration um by uh

2998
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:12,400
regional plans and and by um I want to

2999
02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:14,560
say our colleagues colleagues here um is

3000
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:17,040
truly refreshing and for me it's about

3001
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:21,520
unity and in trying to get uh the best

3002
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:24,079
for our entire um county. um in

3003
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:28,320
Oceanside especially

3004
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:33,760
um we have over 60 I think it's about

3005
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:36,079
64% of our workforce um driving on five

3006
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:40,320
talk talking about um how we need to

3007
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:43,199
reduce our uh greenhouse gas um to work

3008
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:45,199
every day how do and that's that's a

3009
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:48,400
something that we need to figure out how

3010
02:13:45,199 --> 02:13:50,400
to do um for me and and what I'm seeing

3011
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:53,520
it's the microtransit

3012
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:56,639
has really really helped and is helping

3013
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:58,639
us to um in terms of in planning

3014
02:13:56,639 --> 02:14:00,719
internally to meet the needs of our

3015
02:13:58,639 --> 02:14:03,040
community and it does sound like this

3016
02:14:00,719 --> 02:14:05,599
year there's even more interest in

3017
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:08,079
microtransit I think I think um others

3018
02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:09,679
have said this is what we need this is

3019
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:11,920
this is the gap this is something that

3020
02:14:09,679 --> 02:14:16,239
we thought we were going to get 25 years

3021
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:20,239
ago um we're getting it now I feel that

3022
02:14:16,239 --> 02:14:24,079
this um does build trust This is kind of

3023
02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:26,239
like ground zero in terms of okay, this

3024
02:14:24,079 --> 02:14:28,719
is where we're heading. If we are going

3025
02:14:26,239 --> 02:14:30,639
to be be needing another tax, it is

3026
02:14:28,719 --> 02:14:32,719
going to get a lot more of us at the

3027
02:14:30,639 --> 02:14:35,520
table saying, yeah, this, you know, we

3028
02:14:32,719 --> 02:14:37,760
can all agree these are their needs

3029
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:40,159
based on, you know, all the all the uh

3030
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:42,400
needs of the of of our diverse um

3031
02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:45,520
geographically diverse communities. Then

3032
02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:48,239
we can, you know, look to

3033
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:51,280
a a better future for our communities.

3034
02:14:48,239 --> 02:14:53,760
Um yesterday I was a little down because

3035
02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:56,960
I heard that six of our businesses were

3036
02:14:53,760 --> 02:15:00,159
closing. Uh mostly restaurants, even

3037
02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:02,800
longtime long-term ones. And I know that

3038
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:04,800
um you know things for us um and I'm

3039
02:15:02,800 --> 02:15:07,520
sure in other places some of our

3040
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:10,480
affordable housing is being replaced by

3041
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:12,480
unattainable housing, high density, and

3042
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:15,599
we don't want to see that. We want to

3043
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:18,960
ensure that we can be able to survive

3044
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:22,079
and thrive um as communities, each one

3045
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:24,400
of us. So, we're looking to see how can

3046
02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:26,560
we make things better at every level.

3047
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:28,560
So, thank you very much.

3048
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:30,079
» Thank you. Um I see Mayor Mentos back up

3049
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:32,159
again.

3050
02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:33,280
» Yeah, I'm sorry about having to speak a

3051
02:15:32,159 --> 02:15:35,760
second time, but there's something I

3052
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:38,639
completely forgot.

3053
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:42,800
» Hard to believe, right? Um Mario

3054
02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:46,800
mentioned the um CALR and the 50 highway

3055
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:48,400
52 meeting we had last night in Santi

3056
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:50,960
and the reason why I wanted to bring it

3057
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:53,679
up because it's about hope. uh you know

3058
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:56,639
in 2019 I came up with this crazy idea

3059
02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:59,440
about uh doing some things to increase

3060
02:15:56,639 --> 02:16:02,000
the flow of traffic on Highway 52

3061
02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:03,840
because for so long almost since the day

3062
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:05,360
it was built all I ever heard was

3063
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:07,440
complaints about we can't get out of

3064
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:11,119
Santi people from Elcohone can't get

3065
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:13,520
through the bottlenecks and so um people

3066
02:16:11,119 --> 02:16:17,199
coming southbound on the 15 coming home

3067
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:20,480
can't get to the transition to the 52

3068
02:16:17,199 --> 02:16:23,599
east uh very well and so We started

3069
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:27,440
talking with uh Sandag of course. Uh we

3070
02:16:23,599 --> 02:16:29,520
met with um all the leaders over at CALR

3071
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:31,199
uh very early on. Then started just

3072
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:33,760
going out you know around the

3073
02:16:31,199 --> 02:16:35,599
communities and talking then with the

3074
02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:37,439
state representatives, the federal

3075
02:16:35,599 --> 02:16:42,240
representatives, even the US Chamber of

3076
02:16:37,439 --> 02:16:45,200
Commerce saying we need help. And so um

3077
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:47,040
unfortunately things were uh delayed a

3078
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:50,800
little bit because of some pandemic

3079
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:54,000
thing. But um but what happened in 2019,

3080
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:57,359
one of the ideas was to uh take and uh

3081
02:16:54,000 --> 02:17:01,359
create a new transition from 15 south to

3082
02:16:57,359 --> 02:17:04,319
52 east. And so uh even though we were

3083
02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:07,760
raising the money, CALR saw that that

3084
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:10,160
was an extremely important um project to

3085
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:12,479
take on. And believe it or not, from the

3086
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:15,679
inception of that con the concept of

3087
02:17:12,479 --> 02:17:19,280
doing that to uh the design the

3088
02:17:15,679 --> 02:17:21,120
engineering the planning design u

3089
02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:23,679
environmental all the stuff that

3090
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:26,000
normally goes into that today that

3091
02:17:23,679 --> 02:17:29,280
actually is cons that portion of it is

3092
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:31,280
uh completed the transition has changed

3093
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:34,880
and it is actually much easier to get on

3094
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:37,120
the 52 east. So for a 5-year from

3095
02:17:34,880 --> 02:17:39,840
conception to completion and I'm talking

3096
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:42,399
about construction that means you know

3097
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:46,639
pavement on the ground 5 years is

3098
02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:49,920
absolutely almost unheard of. So, if you

3099
02:17:46,639 --> 02:17:53,439
work hard enough and you have really uh

3100
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:56,080
good partners and um District 11 is one

3101
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:59,040
of the best partners in CALR in my

3102
02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:00,880
opinion uh to work with because we do

3103
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:02,479
things that other places when I'm

3104
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:04,399
traveling around the state talking to

3105
02:18:02,479 --> 02:18:05,920
other cities.

3106
02:18:04,399 --> 02:18:08,319
They're always asking how do you get

3107
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:11,040
those things done? Today we're in the

3108
02:18:08,319 --> 02:18:13,200
process of uh getting some changes on

3109
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:15,920
the 52 going westbound so that we can

3110
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:18,559
get those uh the bottlenecks that happen

3111
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:22,000
in Santi which cause actually some

3112
02:18:18,559 --> 02:18:25,679
environmental harm um because of all the

3113
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:28,399
cars uh idling. Uh we expect now and

3114
02:18:25,679 --> 02:18:31,280
take that from about uh it was scheduled

3115
02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:34,479
to be done in 2050 and we expect that to

3116
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:37,920
be completed now I think in 2034.

3117
02:18:34,479 --> 02:18:43,040
Uh so to you know reduce um you know

3118
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:44,319
that kind of um issue by 25 years uh

3119
02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:48,160
we're going to have to still work on

3120
02:18:44,319 --> 02:18:50,479
some of the other things the 78 the 67

3121
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:52,399
but uh we I think we have some good

3122
02:18:50,479 --> 02:18:55,120
formulas to get that work done a lot

3123
02:18:52,399 --> 02:18:56,800
sooner and a lot faster than we ever

3124
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:58,800
thought that could be done. So I just

3125
02:18:56,800 --> 02:19:00,080
wanted to give that message of hope.

3126
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:03,319
» That's good. Thank you. Um, Council

3127
02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:03,319
Member Edson.

3128
02:19:03,439 --> 02:19:08,639
» Thank Thank you, Chair. Um,

3129
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:12,000
Mayor Jones touched uh on the mixed

3130
02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:14,719
rapid 483, which reminded me that I

3131
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:16,399
neglected to mention that NCTD has

3132
02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:18,399
expressed concerns regarding the mixed

3133
02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:20,399
rapid 483

3134
02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:24,319
uh commuter express from Tmacula to

3135
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:26,639
Palomar Airport College via I-15, SR78,

3136
02:19:24,319 --> 02:19:28,960
CSUSM.

3137
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:32,160
um due to budget and operational

3138
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:34,800
constraints. Um we support the concept

3139
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:38,000
absolutely but requests that it come

3140
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:41,040
with a sustainable source of operations

3141
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:42,559
operational funding. Um also I just

3142
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:44,800
wanted to take a moment to acknowledge

3143
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:49,920
and thank staff for the work that went

3144
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:52,560
into creating the plan and um the robust

3145
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:55,600
contributions from the board and from

3146
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:59,720
the public are also appreciated. Thanks.

3147
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:59,720
Thank you, Council Member Lee.

3148
02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:04,479
» Thank you, Chair, and um thank you to

3149
02:20:02,479 --> 02:20:06,080
the team for your um hard work on

3150
02:20:04,479 --> 02:20:07,439
bringing this plan to fruition. I've of

3151
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:10,000
course only been here for the tail end

3152
02:20:07,439 --> 02:20:12,479
of it, or at least what feels like um

3153
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:14,000
that, but the efforts to really engage

3154
02:20:12,479 --> 02:20:15,920
the public, I think, have been critical

3155
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:17,359
here. And and and what I always

3156
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:18,960
recognize is that what everyone is

3157
02:20:17,359 --> 02:20:21,200
advocating for doesn't necessarily all

3158
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:23,520
make it into the plan uh for for a

3159
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:25,439
variety of reasons. Um, and we should be

3160
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,880
willing to acknowledge that the plan's

3161
02:20:25,439 --> 02:20:28,800
not going to address every need that has

3162
02:20:26,880 --> 02:20:31,200
been expressed. Uh, but it is an

3163
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:33,359
opportunity for us to really chart in in

3164
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:35,840
the realistic time frame what we believe

3165
02:20:33,359 --> 02:20:38,000
can be accomplished. I find that same

3166
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:40,880
thing at the city of San Diego. We often

3167
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:42,960
struggle, I think, as agencies to think

3168
02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:45,120
about what we're planning in terms of

3169
02:20:42,960 --> 02:20:47,120
capacity and a vision and then what

3170
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:48,560
actually can come to fruition as well.

3171
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:51,040
and and we need both. You need to be

3172
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:53,280
able to dream and have a vision that is

3173
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:55,359
um long-term and bold enough that you

3174
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:56,720
can be shooting for something, but you

3175
02:20:55,359 --> 02:20:58,880
also actually have to have projects that

3176
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:01,520
can be completed. Um and I do believe

3177
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:02,800
that this um RTP does accomplish a bit

3178
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,560
of that. There there are a couple things

3179
02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:07,600
in it that I do want to note in

3180
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:09,760
particular. Um one is the increase of

3181
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:11,600
microtransit and the talk about

3182
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:13,600
community shuttles. Uh for me in

3183
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:15,040
particular, the Kurtie Mason convoy area

3184
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:16,319
is one that has been discussed quite a

3185
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:19,920
bit at least within the city of San

3186
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:22,080
Diego. Um being a growing uh both

3187
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:24,960
industrial, commercial, soon residential

3188
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:27,280
hub. Um tied to that though is of course

3189
02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:28,720
the Purple Line. And I I I want to

3190
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:31,120
acknowledge all those who have continued

3191
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:33,439
to advocate and fight for ensuring that

3192
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:35,439
the Purple Line is not just on a back

3193
02:21:33,439 --> 02:21:36,800
burner somewhere, but that it is part of

3194
02:21:35,439 --> 02:21:38,479
the long-term vision of what we need to

3195
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:40,560
accomplish. just maybe not within the

3196
02:21:38,479 --> 02:21:42,960
the shorter time frame that we've

3197
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:44,160
previously envisioned. The Purple Line I

3198
02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:46,560
think is going to be critical for the

3199
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:48,399
the region especially again running up

3200
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:50,960
through some of the most critical uh

3201
02:21:48,399 --> 02:21:52,960
economic corridors uh especially in that

3202
02:21:50,960 --> 02:21:55,280
Sono Valley Serno Mesa area moving

3203
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:56,880
forward. Um and then one last thing I

3204
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:59,040
just thought I would ask about since it

3205
02:21:56,880 --> 02:22:01,840
came from um some of the public comment

3206
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:04,319
uh even today. Um but as we look at

3207
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:06,080
designing bike infrastructure um in the

3208
02:22:04,319 --> 02:22:09,040
region um and I know there's always

3209
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:12,720
going to be debate about where and what

3210
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:14,479
infrastructure is wanted, needed etc. um

3211
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:16,880
those debates will always happen but

3212
02:22:14,479 --> 02:22:20,000
when we have put into a plan um

3213
02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:21,760
infrastructure that we are planning on

3214
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:24,399
um I I think it's important that we have

3215
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:26,560
best practices that help us guide the

3216
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:28,399
design of that infrastructure. And so I

3217
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:30,560
I know folks have mentioned that some of

3218
02:22:28,399 --> 02:22:33,920
the previous language around design

3219
02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:37,120
standards specifically with NATO aren't

3220
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:39,280
lined out in this plan and and wanted to

3221
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:41,359
ask again you know the the thinking

3222
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:43,760
behind that and how sand plans to move

3223
02:22:41,359 --> 02:22:45,439
forward so that as we guide bike

3224
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:47,600
infrastructure from a sand perspective

3225
02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:51,359
we ensure that design guidelines are

3226
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:52,720
applicable across the region.

3227
02:22:51,359 --> 02:22:54,160
» Thank you council members. So at the

3228
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:55,760
regional plan level we don't get into

3229
02:22:54,160 --> 02:22:57,200
project specific design. We don't have

3230
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:58,960
design guidelines for any of the

3231
02:22:57,200 --> 02:23:01,359
projects, our transit projects, the

3232
02:22:58,960 --> 02:23:03,760
roadway projects. Um, and that is why

3233
02:23:01,359 --> 02:23:05,200
the NACTO design guidelines were removed

3234
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:06,560
between draft and final because it's

3235
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:08,399
really not appropriate at the regional

3236
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:09,920
plan level. We get into that when we

3237
02:23:08,399 --> 02:23:12,000
start designing bike projects and you

3238
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:14,319
all do when you start designing B bike

3239
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:15,520
projects.

3240
02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:16,880
» Thank you again for sharing that as

3241
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:17,040
well. That concludes my comments. Thank

3242
02:23:16,880 --> 02:23:18,399
you.

3243
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:20,479
» Thank you. Mayor Jones, did you have a

3244
02:23:18,399 --> 02:23:21,359
follow-up comment?

3245
02:23:20,479 --> 02:23:23,040
» You're on the board.

3246
02:23:21,359 --> 02:23:25,600
» Yes. Sorry. I just It was about the

3247
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:29,359
funding. So, um I know that Riverside

3248
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:32,000
used to actually fund a part of that um

3249
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:33,840
uh that bus rapid from Riverside. So,

3250
02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:37,280
maybe we check out check with them to

3251
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:38,960
see if they would be willing to um be

3252
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:39,280
participating in that.

3253
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:42,000
» Yeah.

3254
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:43,680
» Yeah. Once we implement project specific

3255
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:46,560
mitigations

3256
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:49,840
uh in in the environmental document that

3257
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:51,680
um hasn't yet been finalized for 1578,

3258
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:54,960
but it's in the process. The draft went

3259
02:23:51,680 --> 02:23:57,439
out. it has on the on the mitigation

3260
02:23:54,960 --> 02:24:00,240
that part of the managed lane revenues

3261
02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:04,800
will be going to subsidize transit which

3262
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:07,680
is into that line. Um, you know, I have

3263
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:10,160
to say that like Canton has said it,

3264
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:12,800
it's not a project specific the regional

3265
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:17,280
plan. The regional plan is a snapshot of

3266
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:20,160
what we can achieve by 2035 or post 2035

3267
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:21,520
to 2050 to achieve those goals that the

3268
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:24,240
federal government and the state

3269
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:25,920
governments are asking us. Then we have

3270
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:28,319
to have and we have begun the

3271
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:31,200
conversation on funding priorities and

3272
02:24:28,319 --> 02:24:35,200
we we began that here uh just recently

3273
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:37,600
and we will continue that. Um so it it

3274
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:40,399
is very important that we understand

3275
02:24:37,600 --> 02:24:42,880
that this is kind of the big snapshot

3276
02:24:40,399 --> 02:24:46,479
but we do have some challenges ahead of

3277
02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:49,359
us how to funding specific projects and

3278
02:24:46,479 --> 02:24:51,680
also a big challenge that the entire San

3279
02:24:49,359 --> 02:24:55,600
Diego region northsoutheast west will

3280
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:57,680
have to have all of us is also dealing

3281
02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:59,920
with the financial cliffs that our

3282
02:24:57,680 --> 02:25:02,319
transit agencies are dealing with. So

3283
02:24:59,920 --> 02:25:05,040
that's a big conversation. It's not

3284
02:25:02,319 --> 02:25:08,000
within the regional plan conversation,

3285
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:09,840
but we are bringing it up. Uh and I

3286
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:12,560
think it is something that during the

3287
02:25:09,840 --> 02:25:14,880
next coming calendar year,

3288
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:18,319
leadership here as well as in North

3289
02:25:14,880 --> 02:25:20,800
County Transit and MTS boards as well as

3290
02:25:18,319 --> 02:25:23,600
each of your individual city councils

3291
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:25,520
will have to have that hard discussion.

3292
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:28,399
» Yeah. And you know, just to follow up on

3293
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:30,560
that, um, so recently, well, I guess it

3294
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:33,120
was last week, um, I was, uh, speaking

3295
02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:34,720
to leadership over at NCTD and I was

3296
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:37,120
mentioning, you know, there are a lot of

3297
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:39,439
beneficiaries from these specific

3298
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:42,000
projects. Like for instance, in in, um,

3299
02:25:39,439 --> 02:25:44,240
my city with the microtransit, you have

3300
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:46,399
Pelomar, you have CSU, San Marcus, you

3301
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:48,479
have the school district, um, San Marcus

3302
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:51,439
Unified, and then also North City, which

3303
02:25:48,479 --> 02:25:53,520
is our new downtown that's emerging. I I

3304
02:25:51,439 --> 02:25:55,680
suggested to them that we start having

3305
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:57,439
um meetings to talk about what they

3306
02:25:55,680 --> 02:25:59,359
would be willing to participate in

3307
02:25:57,439 --> 02:26:01,760
because financing isn't all going to

3308
02:25:59,359 --> 02:26:03,920
come from one place. Again, I'm going to

3309
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:05,920
say it again, OPM. Um other people's

3310
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:08,399
money. I mean, when we cobble money

3311
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:09,840
together, it's less than one person

3312
02:26:08,399 --> 02:26:12,319
paying for it and it's, you know, kind

3313
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:14,000
of spread out. So, um, if we aren't

3314
02:26:12,319 --> 02:26:16,399
having conversations with the

3315
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:19,200
transportation agency up in Riverside, I

3316
02:26:16,399 --> 02:26:21,120
suggest we at least start that, um, so

3317
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:23,439
that we could see what their level of

3318
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:25,439
interest would be and then we figure out

3319
02:26:23,439 --> 02:26:27,439
who benefits the most. And again, you

3320
02:26:25,439 --> 02:26:29,840
know, back to the participants that

3321
02:26:27,439 --> 02:26:32,080
actually, um, would benefit. Palomar

3322
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:34,880
Hospital, CSU, San Marcos, Palomar

3323
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:36,640
College, Scripps, Kaiser, I mean all of

3324
02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:39,040
the different um you know if you can

3325
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:40,880
make it stop then but there should be

3326
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:41,120
some participation level financially in

3327
02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:43,120
that

3328
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:45,200
» And not to deviate from the conversation

3329
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:49,680
of the regional plan but you brought up

3330
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:51,439
uh SB 375 and um setting up some trips

3331
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:52,960
uh to have those discussions in

3332
02:26:51,439 --> 02:26:57,040
Sacramento

3333
02:26:52,960 --> 02:27:00,399
um next year the the funding package for

3334
02:26:57,040 --> 02:27:03,520
the trans transportation bill is up for

3335
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:06,080
discussion in Congress. So I think we

3336
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:08,240
will organize as a region also to

3337
02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:10,399
advocate at the federal level all the

3338
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:13,040
different funding paths for the next

3339
02:27:10,399 --> 02:27:15,200
transportation bill. So hopefully you

3340
02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:16,399
could come with us also to Washington

3341
02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:19,120
that advocacy.

3342
02:27:16,399 --> 02:27:21,600
» Yes. Thanks.

3343
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:23,120
» Road trip. We'll all go. Um well, thank

3344
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,960
you everybody. Thank you staff so very

3345
02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:27,439
very much. I have to say it was really

3346
02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:30,080
gratifying to hear all of the comments.

3347
02:27:27,439 --> 02:27:32,800
Um, there was a real intentional change

3348
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:35,280
in the way this particular RTP was

3349
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:36,720
crafted as was said. It was started

3350
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:37,920
three years ago. So, if you're new to

3351
02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:40,800
this board, the person who was sitting

3352
02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:43,280
in your seat previously was in workshops

3353
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:47,600
drawing lines and putting stickies on

3354
02:27:43,280 --> 02:27:48,960
maps and really working hard to do the

3355
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:51,280
put on their regional hat as well as

3356
02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:53,600
their city hat and understand that this

3357
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:55,760
is a required plan. we've got all these

3358
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:58,479
goals and uh that we have to meet,

3359
02:27:55,760 --> 02:28:00,319
metrics that we have to meet. Um but

3360
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:02,800
this turns out to be a really great

3361
02:28:00,319 --> 02:28:05,760
example of what happens when you listen

3362
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:07,359
to the locals. Um it would be lovely if

3363
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,800
other levels of government did the same

3364
02:28:07,359 --> 02:28:11,040
thing. But when you listen to the

3365
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:12,880
locals, you can actually put together a

3366
02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:14,640
plan that works for us all because the

3367
02:28:12,880 --> 02:28:16,560
beauty of this re region is in our

3368
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:18,720
diversity. And I mean that in every

3369
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:21,200
every sense of that word. Each of our

3370
02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:23,200
cities is unique in terms of the

3371
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:27,120
regional plan. Each of them is unique

3372
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:29,680
and for us to homogenize um our cities

3373
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:32,640
into one is just not what we want to do.

3374
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:36,000
We want to maintain our attributes um

3375
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:37,359
but also get around the region. Um the

3376
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:39,040
transportation plan doesn't know

3377
02:28:37,359 --> 02:28:42,479
boundaries. So we need to work together

3378
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:44,479
to um make sure that how they land in

3379
02:28:42,479 --> 02:28:46,960
each of our communities works. A

3380
02:28:44,479 --> 02:28:49,280
reminder, as Mario said, this is a

3381
02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:51,280
highlevel plan. It's um as he said, a

3382
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:54,479
snapshot, but it's a really wide lens of

3383
02:28:51,280 --> 02:28:56,479
a of a snapshot. And each project that's

3384
02:28:54,479 --> 02:28:58,560
in here, and again, these are, you know,

3385
02:28:56,479 --> 02:29:00,319
visionary. They're they each have to

3386
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:03,200
have their own plan. They're each going

3387
02:29:00,319 --> 02:29:05,920
to come, it's got its own path basically

3388
02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:07,439
to conclusion and to construction. It's

3389
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:08,240
going to have to have a design. It's

3390
02:29:07,439 --> 02:29:10,080
going to have to go through

3391
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:11,439
environmental.

3392
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:13,280
We're going to have the discussion about

3393
02:29:11,439 --> 02:29:14,640
are we going to fund it or not? Is it

3394
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:16,640
going to be in the RTIP which is the

3395
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:18,720
five-year plan where we know you know

3396
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:20,080
that's what's getting done that's get

3397
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:21,840
getting funded and it will build be

3398
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:23,760
built and then there's construction and

3399
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:26,160
then there's ribbon cutting. So we do

3400
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:29,439
this every four years. Um I think it's

3401
02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:31,520
uh a really great exercise to uh each of

3402
02:29:29,439 --> 02:29:34,080
us to understand each other cities a

3403
02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:35,760
little bit more too and recognize the

3404
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:39,040
continuity that we want within our

3405
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:41,200
region but also the um the uniqueness

3406
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:42,399
that we would like to maintain. So with

3407
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:45,280
that, I'm going to close the public

3408
02:29:42,399 --> 02:29:47,920
hearing and let's vote on this. We have

3409
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:50,640
two um

3410
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:52,720
uh so the action is uh today to adopt

3411
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:55,920
resolution 2026-08

3412
02:29:52,720 --> 02:30:00,520
and 2026-9 certifying the final EIR and

3413
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:00,520
adopting the 2025 regional plan.

3414
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:10,479
Righty passes with one no and the rest

3415
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:12,160
yeses. And we are now going to go on to

3416
02:30:10,479 --> 02:30:13,920
the assessment of Sandex's finance

3417
02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:16,880
department. The team will present items

3418
02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:20,000
5.1 and 5.2 followed by public comment

3419
02:30:16,880 --> 02:30:23,000
and then member discussion.

3420
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:23,000
Courtney

3421
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:11,720
So, are you ready?

3422
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:17,319
» Yes, chair.

3423
02:32:17,439 --> 02:32:21,200
» Chair

3424
02:32:19,359 --> 02:32:22,800
chair Fischer, did you want to

3425
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:24,800
» Oh, I'm sorry. Let me um turn this over

3426
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:26,479
to council member Fischer to introduce

3427
02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:28,080
this item as the chair of the audit

3428
02:32:26,479 --> 02:32:30,880
committee.

3429
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:33,680
» Thank you, chair. Uh board members, uh

3430
02:32:30,880 --> 02:32:35,680
last week we got the uh results from the

3431
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:38,319
assessment that was done by Weaver

3432
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:40,479
regarding the uh financial the finance

3433
02:32:38,319 --> 02:32:44,080
department. Uh we had a good robust

3434
02:32:40,479 --> 02:32:46,000
discussion uh lot of transparency not

3435
02:32:44,080 --> 02:32:48,319
only from Weaver, from uh the audit side

3436
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:49,840
but also from staff. they were there,

3437
02:32:48,319 --> 02:32:51,680
they were present and you really could

3438
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:53,600
see the collaboration and bring us

3439
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:56,399
forward. You know, been through a few

3440
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:58,560
audits this year. Uh assessment is a

3441
02:32:56,399 --> 02:33:02,319
little bit different than an audit and

3442
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:04,479
some of the findings that we have were u

3443
02:33:02,319 --> 02:33:06,560
kind of eye openening if you will. Uh

3444
02:33:04,479 --> 02:33:09,040
but again that it helps us build up a

3445
02:33:06,560 --> 02:33:11,760
road map of where the agency needs to be

3446
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:13,040
in the future. uh and it was mentioned

3447
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:14,720
earlier that you know there's different

3448
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:17,040
assessments going on that one will see

3449
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:19,359
in the future for HR department but it

3450
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:20,800
really was uh an eye openener and again

3451
02:33:19,359 --> 02:33:24,560
nothing that we probably was surprised

3452
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:26,800
but overall you know the the key is that

3453
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:28,800
this agency still operates well still is

3454
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:31,359
really well regarded in the nation is

3455
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:35,040
very high functioning uh we continue to

3456
02:33:31,359 --> 02:33:37,120
receive funds much more in excess of

3457
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:38,720
what our budget is and that continues

3458
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:39,760
and so some of the things that will be

3459
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:42,399
discussed today may be a little bit

3460
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:44,240
viable opening uh to the board members.

3461
02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:46,640
But I really want to stay thank uh

3462
02:33:44,240 --> 02:33:48,640
Courtney for getting this going, finding

3463
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:50,720
a fine company with Weaver and the work

3464
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:53,359
that they did and again the

3465
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:55,760
collaboration between Weaver and uh

3466
02:33:53,359 --> 02:33:58,000
staff to to work together to get the

3467
02:33:55,760 --> 02:34:00,399
assessment done and uh to get to the

3468
02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:05,160
point where it could get presented to

3469
02:34:00,399 --> 02:34:05,160
the board at this point. So, thank you.

3470
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:08,960
» Thank you, chair. Good morning. I'm

3471
02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:10,800
Courtney Ruby. I'm the independent

3472
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:13,120
performance auditor, also known as the

3473
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:15,600
IPA, and as such, I am the chief audit

3474
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:17,359
executive at SANDAG. I'm pleased to

3475
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:19,200
introduce the accounting and finance

3476
02:34:17,359 --> 02:34:22,720
independent assessment conducted by

3477
02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:25,520
Weaver LLC. Today, I'm joined by Remma

3478
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:28,160
Perapilli, partner and subject matter IT

3479
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:31,200
advisor, and Holly Hart, director and

3480
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:33,040
project manager for this engagement. I'd

3481
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:35,760
like to give a little background as to

3482
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:37,680
why this report is before you today.

3483
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:39,040
When I first became IPA, I was

3484
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:41,840
immediately thrust into the

3485
02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:44,560
investigation of SR125.

3486
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:46,560
The investigation found EAN's fast lane

3487
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:48,640
financial reporting could not be relied

3488
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:50,560
upon, and the accounting and finance

3489
02:34:48,640 --> 02:34:52,880
department lacked adequate internal

3490
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:56,319
controls, including proper review and

3491
02:34:52,880 --> 02:34:59,359
supervision to ensure SR125's financial

3492
02:34:56,319 --> 02:35:02,000
information, was accurately recorded and

3493
02:34:59,359 --> 02:35:03,760
reported. The investigation recommended

3494
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:05,439
an independent assessment of the

3495
02:35:03,760 --> 02:35:09,120
accounting and finance department's

3496
02:35:05,439 --> 02:35:11,280
policies, procedures, and practices. As

3497
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:13,600
a result, I wrote the scope of work that

3498
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:15,520
was advertised and is included in the

3499
02:35:13,600 --> 02:35:18,399
transmittal letter that precedes the

3500
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:20,000
assessment. Weaver was a successfully

3501
02:35:18,399 --> 02:35:23,040
awarded the work and has done an

3502
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:25,359
outstanding job. Additionally, Weaver's

3503
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:27,200
assessment when needed extended into the

3504
02:35:25,359 --> 02:35:29,280
areas that would provide greater

3505
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:31,760
operational insight and value to

3506
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:34,000
Sandag's leadership.

3507
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:36,240
I do want to highlight this work

3508
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:38,960
evaluated the current state and the

3509
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:40,800
operational areas being assessed. It is

3510
02:35:38,960 --> 02:35:42,960
not an audit which typically looks

3511
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:45,359
backwards, but instead an assessment of

3512
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:47,200
the current state of operations. Holly

3513
02:35:45,359 --> 02:35:49,280
will go over this as well in her

3514
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:52,240
introduction as well as the chair

3515
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:53,920
mentioned it in his comments. I want to

3516
02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:55,920
acknowledge Sandag's accounting and

3517
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:58,240
finance department and senior leadership

3518
02:35:55,920 --> 02:36:00,479
for their patience, fortitude and

3519
02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:02,319
commitment to this assessment in

3520
02:36:00,479 --> 02:36:04,399
addition to budget management, project

3521
02:36:02,319 --> 02:36:07,120
management and other senior managers who

3522
02:36:04,399 --> 02:36:09,200
assisted in the assessment. management

3523
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:12,000
provided their response to the report at

3524
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:14,080
the same time that the office of the

3525
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:16,560
independent performance auditor or what

3526
02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:18,640
we affectionately call OEPA released the

3527
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:20,319
report and I'm pleased to report that

3528
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:22,640
management has stated their agreement

3529
02:36:20,319 --> 02:36:24,240
with all the recommendations. We will

3530
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:26,240
meet with management in the coming week

3531
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:28,240
to hash out the details to ensure we

3532
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:30,160
have actionable agreement that aligns

3533
02:36:28,240 --> 02:36:32,319
with the recommendations and can be

3534
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:36,160
reported out during OEPA's annual and

3535
02:36:32,319 --> 02:36:38,800
quarterly cap reporting processes. CAPS

3536
02:36:36,160 --> 02:36:40,720
stands for corrective action plan. I

3537
02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:43,120
will now hand the presentation over to

3538
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:45,359
Holly Hart from Weaver to present the

3539
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:46,880
report findings and recommendations and

3540
02:36:45,359 --> 02:36:49,920
then management will present their

3541
02:36:46,880 --> 02:36:52,880
response next. Holly,

3542
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:53,680
» So I'm I'm going to start but so

3543
02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:57,359
» My apologies.

3544
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:58,880
» No worries. Um so we had a strong team

3545
02:36:57,359 --> 02:37:00,240
that helped supported this and one of

3546
02:36:58,880 --> 02:37:02,000
the team members that's not available

3547
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:04,479
today is Brandon Tanos. he was the

3548
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:06,880
overall engagement partner um along with

3549
02:37:04,479 --> 02:37:09,840
Holly that focused more on the overall

3550
02:37:06,880 --> 02:37:11,840
accounting and operations areas. Then

3551
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:13,600
kind of my team and my role is really to

3552
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:16,319
focus on the IT area and we really work

3553
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:19,760
together over those two broad subject

3554
02:37:16,319 --> 02:37:22,720
matters. As Courtney described, we did

3555
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:24,800
an assessment. So separate from an audit

3556
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:26,640
where we are looking at the past and

3557
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:28,160
arriving at a conclusion, we are really

3558
02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:29,920
doing this assessment to be able to

3559
02:37:28,160 --> 02:37:32,000
provide recommendations over the current

3560
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:33,439
state of the environment and to be able

3561
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:35,760
to look at those results and to be able

3562
02:37:33,439 --> 02:37:37,280
to provide kind of a state of where you

3563
02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:39,520
are and what those recommendations can

3564
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:42,880
look like which management has started

3565
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:44,479
to think about t start to work on. We

3566
02:37:42,880 --> 02:37:46,000
started our procedures earlier in the

3567
02:37:44,479 --> 02:37:48,880
spring and are really reporting it out

3568
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:50,319
to you today, but management has been um

3569
02:37:48,880 --> 02:37:51,840
aware of the things that they need to

3570
02:37:50,319 --> 02:37:53,600
work on and then this kind of really

3571
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:56,000
solidified it and kind of gave them some

3572
02:37:53,600 --> 02:37:57,520
direction on what what we looked at and

3573
02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:59,359
the things that they recognized also

3574
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:01,120
needed some areas of improvement. And so

3575
02:37:59,359 --> 02:38:02,960
the focus area of what we did as part of

3576
02:38:01,120 --> 02:38:04,479
this assessment which you can see really

3577
02:38:02,960 --> 02:38:07,840
looked at the finance and accounting

3578
02:38:04,479 --> 02:38:09,680
department over those process areas um

3579
02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:11,920
accounting, finance, revenue, project

3580
02:38:09,680 --> 02:38:13,600
control, toll operations, accounting and

3581
02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:15,760
we really focus on a number of key

3582
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:18,240
functions and core functions in that.

3583
02:38:15,760 --> 02:38:20,240
And then we also looked at the state of

3584
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:21,760
the ERP system implementation that

3585
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:23,359
occurred a couple years ago to really

3586
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:25,040
understand how that system

3587
02:38:23,359 --> 02:38:27,280
implementation

3588
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:30,000
um was performed and then how has that

3589
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:32,160
helped support the processes that are

3590
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:34,000
occurring in the uh finance and

3591
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:36,319
accounting departments as well. So we

3592
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,840
did a number of different items and one

3593
02:38:36,319 --> 02:38:41,040
of the other areas that we looked at was

3594
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:43,760
really performing a um skills assessment

3595
02:38:41,040 --> 02:38:47,120
which I'll have colleague go over.

3596
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:49,040
» Thanks Reema. Yes. So, uh we also

3597
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:51,359
included an organizational structure and

3598
02:38:49,040 --> 02:38:53,520
skills assessment as part of this

3599
02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:56,000
project and that was really to look at

3600
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:58,399
role clarity, responsibilities,

3601
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:59,920
qualifications, credentials, the three

3602
02:38:58,399 --> 02:39:04,000
what we like to call the three pillars

3603
02:38:59,920 --> 02:39:07,200
of um an successful uh uh competent

3604
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:09,120
team. And so we also looked at how the

3605
02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:10,720
teams collaborate. And I just want to be

3606
02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:12,960
clear as well that this was not a

3607
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:16,160
staffing level assessment. We didn't

3608
02:39:12,960 --> 02:39:20,000
look at cycle times or uh do a heavy

3609
02:39:16,160 --> 02:39:22,080
analysis of the uh various

3610
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:24,560
quantification of tasks that were

3611
02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:26,560
performed. But we al but we did identify

3612
02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:29,680
some general resource constraints within

3613
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:32,399
the inscope process areas as a root

3614
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:34,560
cause of some of the conditions that we

3615
02:39:32,399 --> 02:39:36,720
found at a high level. Some of the

3616
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:38,080
procedures that we performed again as is

3617
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:40,800
an assessment they were done in

3618
02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:42,399
collaboration with the management team

3619
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:44,800
looking at the current state as Courtney

3620
02:39:42,399 --> 02:39:46,479
mentioned we looked at policies and

3621
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:48,160
procedures looking at the internal

3622
02:39:46,479 --> 02:39:50,160
controls benchmark to globally

3623
02:39:48,160 --> 02:39:51,920
recognized internal control frameworks

3624
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:53,520
and standards. We did lots of

3625
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:55,840
stakeholder interviews and follow-ups

3626
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:57,840
where needed to ensure that we had a a

3627
02:39:55,840 --> 02:39:59,920
good understanding of the current state,

3628
02:39:57,840 --> 02:40:02,160
validating that understanding, making

3629
02:39:59,920 --> 02:40:03,920
sure there was clarity between us in

3630
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:05,680
management and to how things were

3631
02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:08,319
operating in its current state. We

3632
02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:10,399
looked at evidence, a lot of various uh

3633
02:40:08,319 --> 02:40:12,800
pieces of documentation

3634
02:40:10,399 --> 02:40:15,840
uh to validate and ensure that we had an

3635
02:40:12,800 --> 02:40:17,920
accurate understanding uh and of course

3636
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,920
really dug into the technology and

3637
02:40:17,920 --> 02:40:22,000
systems implementation component. as you

3638
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:24,960
guys are transitioning in various

3639
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:26,720
systems in your current state.

3640
02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:29,520
So, as a result of our assessment, we

3641
02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:31,840
identified what we call our core themes.

3642
02:40:29,520 --> 02:40:34,000
We grouped these in core themes because

3643
02:40:31,840 --> 02:40:35,760
they generally overall as you're going

3644
02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:37,920
through the report, the results of the

3645
02:40:35,760 --> 02:40:42,319
assessment really do kind of shine

3646
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:44,640
through. uh and so looking at the uh

3647
02:40:42,319 --> 02:40:46,880
results through the lens of these core

3648
02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:48,720
themes can help orient you in terms of

3649
02:40:46,880 --> 02:40:50,960
what to really focus on whenever we're

3650
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:52,960
talking about our road map as well. We

3651
02:40:50,960 --> 02:40:54,880
had 18 observations associated with our

3652
02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:58,000
recommendations which we categorized

3653
02:40:54,880 --> 02:41:00,399
into various groups as they naturally

3654
02:40:58,000 --> 02:41:04,920
related to the process areas in which we

3655
02:41:00,399 --> 02:41:04,920
found them. Next slide.

3656
02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:09,319
All right.

3657
02:41:10,399 --> 02:41:14,240
So to go a little bit more into those

3658
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:16,479
core themes and I'll just provide a

3659
02:41:14,240 --> 02:41:18,880
brief overview of these. They are not

3660
02:41:16,479 --> 02:41:20,720
necessarily in any particular order. The

3661
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:22,960
first one is very critical and

3662
02:41:20,720 --> 02:41:25,359
foundational to all the others which is

3663
02:41:22,960 --> 02:41:27,520
why it is first regarding governance and

3664
02:41:25,359 --> 02:41:29,920
oversight. Really an overarching theme

3665
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:34,319
for this assessment. We definitely

3666
02:41:29,920 --> 02:41:36,160
identified the need for uh more uh clear

3667
02:41:34,319 --> 02:41:37,840
oversight, governance, and

3668
02:41:36,160 --> 02:41:40,640
accountability particularly within the

3669
02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:42,000
areas of budget management, ERP, systems

3670
02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:44,479
implementation, and of course some of

3671
02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:47,040
those core key accounting controls that

3672
02:41:44,479 --> 02:41:49,680
we've identified throughout the the

3673
02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:51,280
assessment. The second area was really

3674
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:53,439
policies, procedures, and internal

3675
02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:55,520
controls. really the backbone of your

3676
02:41:53,439 --> 02:41:58,319
control environment and how we ensure

3677
02:41:55,520 --> 02:42:00,399
that we implement our uh risk mitigation

3678
02:41:58,319 --> 02:42:03,120
strategy in terms of control activities

3679
02:42:00,399 --> 02:42:04,960
consistently. So we evaluated that uh

3680
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:06,160
and found that there is definitely a

3681
02:42:04,960 --> 02:42:08,160
need for some standardized

3682
02:42:06,160 --> 02:42:09,600
standardization of key accounting

3683
02:42:08,160 --> 02:42:12,080
controls as well as system

3684
02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:14,160
implementation protocols to close some

3685
02:42:12,080 --> 02:42:16,479
identified gaps that we ident uh in

3686
02:42:14,160 --> 02:42:19,120
those controls uh especially the ones

3687
02:42:16,479 --> 02:42:21,359
that are fundamental to ensuring

3688
02:42:19,120 --> 02:42:24,319
accurate complete financial reporting as

3689
02:42:21,359 --> 02:42:26,080
well as uh ensuring that the information

3690
02:42:24,319 --> 02:42:27,760
operational information that's received

3691
02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:29,600
by management the board and other

3692
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:32,080
stakeholders is also complete and

3693
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:34,000
accurate. We uh have a list of

3694
02:42:32,080 --> 02:42:36,399
appendices in our report that have

3695
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:39,760
additional details if you're if you want

3696
02:42:36,399 --> 02:42:41,680
to to dig into that. The third area uh

3697
02:42:39,760 --> 02:42:44,240
core theme technology and systems

3698
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:46,240
integration really looking at some of

3699
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:49,760
the gaps in the implementation life

3700
02:42:46,240 --> 02:42:52,160
cycle that have limited the ERP's

3701
02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:54,000
impact. Uh not that we can't move

3702
02:42:52,160 --> 02:42:56,240
forward and continue to work on those

3703
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:59,120
things, but definitely some areas where

3704
02:42:56,240 --> 02:43:01,600
in our uh requirements as we're going

3705
02:42:59,120 --> 02:43:05,120
through the life cycle to to better

3706
02:43:01,600 --> 02:43:07,600
ensure that it's uh really impactful and

3707
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:10,960
ensure it meets our requirements as we

3708
02:43:07,600 --> 02:43:12,319
configure our systems and work to reduce

3709
02:43:10,960 --> 02:43:14,399
manual workarounds and improve

3710
02:43:12,319 --> 02:43:16,319
reporting.

3711
02:43:14,399 --> 02:43:19,120
The fourth area, performance measurement

3712
02:43:16,319 --> 02:43:20,720
and accountability. Really we here we

3713
02:43:19,120 --> 02:43:23,680
identified some opportunities to better

3714
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:26,080
define uh different various performance

3715
02:43:23,680 --> 02:43:27,600
metrics that would give both management

3716
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:29,600
and the board insights into how

3717
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:31,920
effective our processes are in these

3718
02:43:29,600 --> 02:43:33,920
various areas particularly in the areas

3719
02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:37,200
of budget management as well as IT

3720
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:39,600
governance. There are some very

3721
02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:42,640
wellrecoognized KPIs that we think could

3722
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:44,800
be used in these areas to ensure that

3723
02:43:42,640 --> 02:43:46,800
there's always a pulse on how effective

3724
02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:48,399
we are in these areas.

3725
02:43:46,800 --> 02:43:50,399
The fifth core seeing training and

3726
02:43:48,399 --> 02:43:52,240
workforce development.

3727
02:43:50,399 --> 02:43:54,240
Here we identified a lack of some formal

3728
02:43:52,240 --> 02:43:57,359
development that is consistent with

3729
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:59,439
specific job responsibilities and duties

3730
02:43:57,359 --> 02:44:03,120
as well as a need to formalize

3731
02:43:59,439 --> 02:44:06,399
role-based training and uh then uh look

3732
02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:08,240
at how we emphasize and are intentional

3733
02:44:06,399 --> 02:44:10,240
about the credentials and qualifications

3734
02:44:08,240 --> 02:44:12,160
and experience that we expect for our

3735
02:44:10,240 --> 02:44:14,000
workforce.

3736
02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:15,520
The second uh the sixth one here is six

3737
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:18,479
core theme change management and

3738
02:44:15,520 --> 02:44:20,399
communication. Change management is also

3739
02:44:18,479 --> 02:44:23,680
uh fundamental and foundational to

3740
02:44:20,399 --> 02:44:25,840
almost every ver uh evolving thing that

3741
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:27,359
goes on at SANDAG whether it's a new

3742
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:29,439
business process or a systems

3743
02:44:27,359 --> 02:44:31,520
implementation change management is

3744
02:44:29,439 --> 02:44:33,279
always going to be a part of that

3745
02:44:31,520 --> 02:44:35,760
journey to ensuring that it's an

3746
02:44:33,279 --> 02:44:37,359
effective transition. And so we did

3747
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,520
identify that there is a need for some

3748
02:44:37,359 --> 02:44:41,840
consistency in our change management

3749
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:46,560
processes and both the process business

3750
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:50,319
process and the technology uh change um

3751
02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:52,319
and and adoption and transition uh to

3752
02:44:50,319 --> 02:44:53,840
ensure that we adopt and sustain our

3753
02:44:52,319 --> 02:44:55,760
technology as well as integrate

3754
02:44:53,840 --> 02:44:57,840
necessary updates to the business

3755
02:44:55,760 --> 02:44:59,920
processes as we are implementing that

3756
02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:02,000
technology. And then the seventh core

3757
02:44:59,920 --> 02:45:04,319
theme here roles, responsibilities and

3758
02:45:02,000 --> 02:45:06,479
collaboration. We did identify various

3759
02:45:04,319 --> 02:45:09,040
ad hoc practices that don't have

3760
02:45:06,479 --> 02:45:11,520
necessarily some well-defined

3761
02:45:09,040 --> 02:45:13,359
uh areas of roles uh responsibility,

3762
02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:15,279
accountability, who's informed, who's

3763
02:45:13,359 --> 02:45:18,080
consulted, you know, really that

3764
02:45:15,279 --> 02:45:19,600
foundational framework of ensuring that

3765
02:45:18,080 --> 02:45:21,920
uh those roles and responsibilities are

3766
02:45:19,600 --> 02:45:25,439
well defined to reduce crossep

3767
02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:26,960
departmental um to increase crossep

3768
02:45:25,439 --> 02:45:28,720
departmental coordination and ensure

3769
02:45:26,960 --> 02:45:29,920
clear understanding for optimal

3770
02:45:28,720 --> 02:45:33,479
financial management and your

3771
02:45:29,920 --> 02:45:33,479
operational processes.

3772
02:45:34,479 --> 02:45:40,399
Okay. So, as we talked about the core

3773
02:45:37,120 --> 02:45:42,960
themes, we did identify out of our 48

3774
02:45:40,399 --> 02:45:45,920
observation uh 48 recommendations uh

3775
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:48,160
some priority actions that we hope can

3776
02:45:45,920 --> 02:45:50,800
help orient management into where to

3777
02:45:48,160 --> 02:45:54,160
focus on in both the short term,

3778
02:45:50,800 --> 02:45:56,640
medium-term, and long term.

3779
02:45:54,160 --> 02:45:59,200
So, we will go into those a little bit.

3780
02:45:56,640 --> 02:46:02,720
Those top 10 priority actions. The first

3781
02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:06,720
one is really on the internal controls

3782
02:46:02,720 --> 02:46:10,080
and compliance framework. Here we would

3783
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:11,680
recommend really standing up a unified

3784
02:46:10,080 --> 02:46:14,000
internal controls and compliance

3785
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:15,920
framework. This is really evaluating our

3786
02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:18,319
agencywide controls in these finance

3787
02:46:15,920 --> 02:46:21,200
accounting processes. As we know,

3788
02:46:18,319 --> 02:46:23,520
there's a lot of crossf functional

3789
02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:27,120
activities and processes and controls in

3790
02:46:23,520 --> 02:46:29,359
these areas. And so having a uh a

3791
02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:31,680
well-recoognized framework that defines

3792
02:46:29,359 --> 02:46:33,279
key controls, owners, frequency, the

3793
02:46:31,680 --> 02:46:35,359
various key components of internal

3794
02:46:33,279 --> 02:46:38,319
control and also looking at our residual

3795
02:46:35,359 --> 02:46:40,479
risk and how are we uh comfortable with

3796
02:46:38,319 --> 02:46:43,439
our mitigation strategy and that can

3797
02:46:40,479 --> 02:46:45,200
also be used to ensure consistency and

3798
02:46:43,439 --> 02:46:46,560
succession planning and just make sure

3799
02:46:45,200 --> 02:46:48,640
that everybody's on the same page about

3800
02:46:46,560 --> 02:46:50,479
our control framework. The second

3801
02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:54,240
priority action is establishing that

3802
02:46:50,479 --> 02:46:58,319
true technology and ERP governance. uh

3803
02:46:54,240 --> 02:47:00,479
structure centralizing our IT governance

3804
02:46:58,319 --> 02:47:03,200
which we uh recommend to be led by a

3805
02:47:00,479 --> 02:47:06,240
qualified CIO equivalent to oversee that

3806
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:07,760
technology strategy decision-m and issue

3807
02:47:06,240 --> 02:47:09,600
escalation and ensure in alignment

3808
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:11,520
between technology and the various

3809
02:47:09,600 --> 02:47:14,800
business processes that that technology

3810
02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:16,880
is is touching.

3811
02:47:14,800 --> 02:47:18,800
And then the third priority action here

3812
02:47:16,880 --> 02:47:20,160
is really raising expectations for

3813
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:22,399
management competencies that are

3814
02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:24,000
associated with those three pillars of

3815
02:47:22,399 --> 02:47:26,720
qualification that I mentioned which

3816
02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:30,000
include experience, education and

3817
02:47:26,720 --> 02:47:31,840
credentials. Uh and tracking that

3818
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:34,160
training centrally prioritizing

3819
02:47:31,840 --> 02:47:36,640
highquality technical training that is

3820
02:47:34,160 --> 02:47:38,640
very clearly tied to specific job

3821
02:47:36,640 --> 02:47:40,319
responsibilities.

3822
02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:42,240
The fourth one, tighten system

3823
02:47:40,319 --> 02:47:44,880
implementation quality gates

3824
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:47,279
requirements such as traceability

3825
02:47:44,880 --> 02:47:48,960
testing and go live criteria. These are

3826
02:47:47,279 --> 02:47:51,520
the critical actions that are needed for

3827
02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:54,240
truly any systems implementation or

3828
02:47:51,520 --> 02:47:56,720
major update to a system. Anything that

3829
02:47:54,240 --> 02:47:59,439
has a material or significant impact

3830
02:47:56,720 --> 02:48:01,680
when we are transitioning our our

3831
02:47:59,439 --> 02:48:04,080
technology. Making sure that we map

3832
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:06,800
requirements to our testing before we go

3833
02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:08,800
live. formal pre-go live validations,

3834
02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:10,720
sign offs, and documented. We document

3835
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:13,120
any workarounds so that it's very clear

3836
02:48:10,720 --> 02:48:14,479
to everybody in the agency if for some

3837
02:48:13,120 --> 02:48:16,720
reason there was something that was

3838
02:48:14,479 --> 02:48:18,800
affected um that that's well documented

3839
02:48:16,720 --> 02:48:22,479
and we know our strategy and how we're

3840
02:48:18,800 --> 02:48:24,560
going to uh implement various uh or

3841
02:48:22,479 --> 02:48:27,520
alternative methods of getting what we

3842
02:48:24,560 --> 02:48:29,760
need from those systems.

3843
02:48:27,520 --> 02:48:32,080
The fifth one, institutional and key

3844
02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:33,840
accounting reconciliations,

3845
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:35,439
policy approved templates and executive

3846
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:37,600
oversight as well as the sixth one at

3847
02:48:35,439 --> 02:48:39,920
centralization of invoice management and

3848
02:48:37,600 --> 02:48:41,520
establishing riskbased approvals. These

3849
02:48:39,920 --> 02:48:43,200
are specific challenges and

3850
02:48:41,520 --> 02:48:45,200
opportunities to increase control

3851
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:48,000
effectiveness in key accounting

3852
02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:51,520
controls. specifically uh making sure

3853
02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:54,479
that there are policies and expectations

3854
02:48:51,520 --> 02:48:58,160
around these key accounting controls and

3855
02:48:54,479 --> 02:49:01,359
also centralizing certain areas of our

3856
02:48:58,160 --> 02:49:04,560
our invoicing processes to help with

3857
02:49:01,359 --> 02:49:06,240
visibility. Making sure that we are uh

3858
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:08,160
meeting our expectations for our

3859
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:09,439
stakeholders and making those payments

3860
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:11,040
and strengthening our vendor

3861
02:49:09,439 --> 02:49:14,040
relationships as well as ensuring

3862
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:14,040
compliance.

3863
02:49:16,160 --> 02:49:20,000
The next four priority actions here are

3864
02:49:17,840 --> 02:49:22,880
also focused on improving controls for

3865
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:24,319
some key financial management processes

3866
02:49:22,880 --> 02:49:26,399
uh including oversight of funding

3867
02:49:24,319 --> 02:49:28,640
sources, total revenue accounting and

3868
02:49:26,399 --> 02:49:31,439
reporting, budget management and great

3869
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:33,279
grant payments and reimbursements.

3870
02:49:31,439 --> 02:49:35,040
The seventh one that centralized billing

3871
02:49:33,279 --> 02:49:36,640
oversight across all funding sources.

3872
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:38,800
This is really focused on creating a

3873
02:49:36,640 --> 02:49:41,200
single mechanism with management review

3874
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:42,800
for real-time visibility into billing

3875
02:49:41,200 --> 02:49:44,399
progress across our projects and

3876
02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:46,880
programs including our program

3877
02:49:44,399 --> 02:49:48,960
requirements and deadlines. We all know

3878
02:49:46,880 --> 02:49:51,279
that we have a lot of various funding

3879
02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:52,880
sources that are critical to uh tracking

3880
02:49:51,279 --> 02:49:54,240
and overseeing to ensure that we

3881
02:49:52,880 --> 02:49:56,720
continue to meet our mission as an

3882
02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:59,040
agency. Stabilizing toll revenue

3883
02:49:56,720 --> 02:50:02,399
accounting and reporting. reducing some

3884
02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:05,760
single point reliance that we identified

3885
02:50:02,399 --> 02:50:07,760
uh to um ensure that those workarounds

3886
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:09,920
that are currently in place right now

3887
02:50:07,760 --> 02:50:12,479
between Fast Lane and ERP are well

3888
02:50:09,920 --> 02:50:14,720
documented, any necessary

3889
02:50:12,479 --> 02:50:17,439
reconciliations and reviews are

3890
02:50:14,720 --> 02:50:19,040
happening on a consistent basis and then

3891
02:50:17,439 --> 02:50:21,120
making sure that we have a path to

3892
02:50:19,040 --> 02:50:23,680
reducing that single point of reliance

3893
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:25,120
as well as an integration between our

3894
02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:28,240
accounting systems and the backend

3895
02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:30,479
tolling uh accounting system.

3896
02:50:28,240 --> 02:50:32,399
Nine, clarifying budget ownership and

3897
02:50:30,479 --> 02:50:35,520
enforcing continuous budget to actual

3898
02:50:32,399 --> 02:50:37,439
monitoring. A ne another key area of

3899
02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:38,960
SANDAG that's critical to ensuring from

3900
02:50:37,439 --> 02:50:41,439
a project management perspective that

3901
02:50:38,960 --> 02:50:43,359
we're on track. That's uh publishing

3902
02:50:41,439 --> 02:50:45,279
agencywide budgeting roles and

3903
02:50:43,359 --> 02:50:46,720
responsibilities as I mentioned before

3904
02:50:45,279 --> 02:50:50,640
making sure that we're performing that

3905
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:52,479
monthly quarterly and um you know as as

3906
02:50:50,640 --> 02:50:55,200
often as it's necessary even real time

3907
02:50:52,479 --> 02:50:57,200
if if possible uh looking at budget to

3908
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:59,439
actual and what is those variances and

3909
02:50:57,200 --> 02:51:02,319
why do we have those variances and

3910
02:50:59,439 --> 02:51:04,000
implementing a mandatory midcycle review

3911
02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:06,000
and then finally increasing grant

3912
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:08,560
reimbursement expectations payments

3913
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:11,120
controls and visibility. Uh grants are

3914
02:51:08,560 --> 02:51:12,880
another uh critical area for the agency.

3915
02:51:11,120 --> 02:51:15,120
Ensuring that we align our program

3916
02:51:12,880 --> 02:51:17,040
guides to that to our 30-day payment

3917
02:51:15,120 --> 02:51:18,960
requirements, tracking receipt day

3918
02:51:17,040 --> 02:51:20,800
status, any delay reasons, and then

3919
02:51:18,960 --> 02:51:24,680
reporting that compliance upwards to

3920
02:51:20,800 --> 02:51:24,680
leadership as needed.

3921
02:51:26,319 --> 02:51:30,399
And and just for a visual for you guys,

3922
02:51:28,399 --> 02:51:32,880
the priority actions and recommended

3923
02:51:30,399 --> 02:51:35,279
roadmap um you know in something like

3924
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:37,840
this execution matters to ensure that an

3925
02:51:35,279 --> 02:51:40,160
assessment like this is fully realized

3926
02:51:37,840 --> 02:51:42,960
uh to it its maximum benefit. So we did

3927
02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:44,960
provide you a 0 to 18month roadmap that

3928
02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:47,040
aligns each priority action with a

3929
02:51:44,960 --> 02:51:48,880
timeline for implementation focusing on

3930
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:50,800
internal controls, IT governance,

3931
02:51:48,880 --> 02:51:52,160
training, reconciliation, all the great

3932
02:51:50,800 --> 02:51:54,960
priority actions that we talked about

3933
02:51:52,160 --> 02:51:57,359
before. and that 0 to six month timeline

3934
02:51:54,960 --> 02:51:59,279
uh timeline really the the internal

3935
02:51:57,359 --> 02:52:01,439
control framework which we would say is

3936
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:04,560
definitely a high priority on those

3937
02:52:01,439 --> 02:52:08,800
actions. Standing up ERP governance and

3938
02:52:04,560 --> 02:52:10,560
initiating both the uh a a improved or

3939
02:52:08,800 --> 02:52:12,720
enhanced credentiing and training

3940
02:52:10,560 --> 02:52:14,960
program as well as quality gates for

3941
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:17,840
system implementation and proper change

3942
02:52:14,960 --> 02:52:20,720
management. And then uh also looking at

3943
02:52:17,840 --> 02:52:23,359
our institutionalizing all the various

3944
02:52:20,720 --> 02:52:25,840
50 plus reconciliations that occur in

3945
02:52:23,359 --> 02:52:28,160
Sandag. Then within that six to 12 month

3946
02:52:25,840 --> 02:52:30,080
timeline, some of the things that might

3947
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:31,359
require a little bit more effort,

3948
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:32,960
especially the the things that are

3949
02:52:31,359 --> 02:52:34,960
crossunctional across multiple

3950
02:52:32,960 --> 02:52:37,279
departments, such as centralizing

3951
02:52:34,960 --> 02:52:39,439
invoice receipts, approval, deploying

3952
02:52:37,279 --> 02:52:41,040
that centralized billing oversight,

3953
02:52:39,439 --> 02:52:43,200
which requires project management

3954
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:44,560
involved, stabilizing the toll revenue

3955
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:46,720
processes that we discussed, and

3956
02:52:44,560 --> 02:52:49,200
embedding budget budget managering

3957
02:52:46,720 --> 02:52:51,680
cadences throughout the agency, and then

3958
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:54,000
some ongoing areas which will continue

3959
02:52:51,680 --> 02:52:57,200
to evolve for Sandagen should have An

3960
02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:59,120
intentional focus is maturing our our

3961
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:01,040
performance and KPI dashboards,

3962
02:52:59,120 --> 02:53:03,040
automating and automating in

3963
02:53:01,040 --> 02:53:05,120
integrations, completing those training

3964
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:06,640
pathways and then hardening governance

3965
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:08,800
routines so improvements sustained

3966
02:53:06,640 --> 02:53:11,800
through future system changes which is

3967
02:53:08,800 --> 02:53:11,800
ongoing.

3968
02:53:13,040 --> 02:53:16,880
That's all our prepared material and so

3969
02:53:15,279 --> 02:53:19,760
uh is I think we're going to go through

3970
02:53:16,880 --> 02:53:22,319
management response and uh we welcome

3971
02:53:19,760 --> 02:53:25,319
your feedback and questions. Thank you.

3972
02:53:22,319 --> 02:53:25,319
Once

3973
02:53:26,399 --> 02:53:32,960
our team is setting up, uh, they're

3974
02:53:30,319 --> 02:53:36,240
going to come and give their responses

3975
02:53:32,960 --> 02:53:40,319
here. Um, I think our I want to start

3976
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:43,279
with a a couple of comments here. Um,

3977
02:53:40,319 --> 02:53:47,600
and probably go back a little bit in in

3978
02:53:43,279 --> 02:53:53,359
uh a little bit of memory lane. And what

3979
02:53:47,600 --> 02:53:58,560
have we done? We began um 18 months ago.

3980
02:53:53,359 --> 02:54:01,040
The first objective was to stabilize,

3981
02:53:58,560 --> 02:54:03,040
enhance trust inside and outside the

3982
02:54:01,040 --> 02:54:06,240
agency

3983
02:54:03,040 --> 02:54:08,319
and assess and implement and that's the

3984
02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:11,520
phase where we're at assessing

3985
02:54:08,319 --> 02:54:15,760
implementing and we we truly truly

3986
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:20,960
appreciate this. Now also

3987
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:24,640
Sandak is is I want to go back and just

3988
02:54:20,960 --> 02:54:27,279
high level what is SANDAC?

3989
02:54:24,640 --> 02:54:29,840
SANDAK is a very complex organization

3990
02:54:27,279 --> 02:54:33,040
that meets multiple purposes and it's

3991
02:54:29,840 --> 02:54:36,399
probably very unique in the state. It's

3992
02:54:33,040 --> 02:54:39,920
an planning organization.

3993
02:54:36,399 --> 02:54:43,040
If you go to LA, there's one huge

3994
02:54:39,920 --> 02:54:46,240
organization called SCACK, but it only

3995
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:50,720
does the MO. It only does the planning.

3996
02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:54,080
link here. Our our our responsibility as

3997
02:54:50,720 --> 02:54:56,240
the no is we look at the transportation

3998
02:54:54,080 --> 02:55:00,319
network as well as we provide some

3999
02:54:56,240 --> 02:55:03,279
housing information and policy

4000
02:55:00,319 --> 02:55:06,640
through a consolidation act that was

4001
02:55:03,279 --> 02:55:10,960
passed around 20 2008

4002
02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:15,200
if my memory serves right. We are also a

4003
02:55:10,960 --> 02:55:18,080
capital delivery agency which other MPOs

4004
02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:21,040
are not. So we are responsible to

4005
02:55:18,080 --> 02:55:23,120
delivering the transit projects planning

4006
02:55:21,040 --> 02:55:25,760
and delivering the transit project for

4007
02:55:23,120 --> 02:55:29,200
San Diego County and coordinating with

4008
02:55:25,760 --> 02:55:32,800
the state crons and the state highway

4009
02:55:29,200 --> 02:55:36,080
system projects. So that's another side

4010
02:55:32,800 --> 02:55:40,000
another business of Sandak. We are a

4011
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:43,279
toll operating agency.

4012
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:47,200
which we operate the SR125,

4013
02:55:43,279 --> 02:55:50,240
we operate the I-15 manage lanes which

4014
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:53,359
were the very first ones in the nation

4015
02:55:50,240 --> 02:55:56,800
with having dynamic tolling. So that

4016
02:55:53,359 --> 02:56:00,319
that that came that idea in the nation

4017
02:55:56,800 --> 02:56:03,840
came out of Sandok and we are in the

4018
02:56:00,319 --> 02:56:06,160
process of implementing a substantial

4019
02:56:03,840 --> 02:56:08,080
amount of mileage of future managed

4020
02:56:06,160 --> 02:56:11,200
lanes.

4021
02:56:08,080 --> 02:56:14,399
We are an agency that acts and houses

4022
02:56:11,200 --> 02:56:16,479
criminal justice information for every

4023
02:56:14,399 --> 02:56:19,359
single police department that your

4024
02:56:16,479 --> 02:56:21,279
cities has either via the county

4025
02:56:19,359 --> 02:56:23,120
sheriff's department or your individual

4026
02:56:21,279 --> 02:56:25,840
cities.

4027
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:29,120
We are an information data center for

4028
02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:32,560
both transportation housing and in

4029
02:56:29,120 --> 02:56:35,680
addition that what houses are just

4030
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:38,000
houses we also do criminal justice data

4031
02:56:35,680 --> 02:56:40,800
analysis.

4032
02:56:38,000 --> 02:56:43,120
That's just a snapshot of what you all

4033
02:56:40,800 --> 02:56:45,200
have as a responsibility.

4034
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:47,840
But that's a snapshot of what each of

4035
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:50,640
those leaders in front of you are

4036
02:56:47,840 --> 02:56:53,040
responsible to manage.

4037
02:56:50,640 --> 02:56:56,000
With more than a hundred different

4038
02:56:53,040 --> 02:56:59,120
colors of money to be managed, all of

4039
02:56:56,000 --> 02:57:01,279
them with different requirements

4040
02:56:59,120 --> 02:57:04,160
that creates a humongous amount of

4041
02:57:01,279 --> 02:57:06,960
stress in the organization of how we

4042
02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:10,399
manage all that and keep the accounting.

4043
02:57:06,960 --> 02:57:13,760
I truly truly appreciate this assessment

4044
02:57:10,399 --> 02:57:17,359
because this is that turning point. Like

4045
02:57:13,760 --> 02:57:19,840
I said, we came, we stabilized, we

4046
02:57:17,359 --> 02:57:22,880
worked on enhancing the trust inside and

4047
02:57:19,840 --> 02:57:25,520
outs. We still need to work on that and

4048
02:57:22,880 --> 02:57:27,600
we are now in assessment but also

4049
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:30,240
implementation

4050
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:32,399
and all that

4051
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:35,359
while we're keeping an organization

4052
02:57:32,399 --> 02:57:39,439
moving. And you just saw an awesome

4053
02:57:35,359 --> 02:57:42,479
regional plan delivered. So, we're

4054
02:57:39,439 --> 02:57:44,960
giving a tuneup to the car, changing the

4055
02:57:42,479 --> 02:57:46,479
tires, and we're driving it in the

4056
02:57:44,960 --> 02:57:50,240
freeway.

4057
02:57:46,479 --> 02:57:52,880
That's no easy task. So, you you all

4058
02:57:50,240 --> 02:57:55,120
have an incredible setup, more than 400

4059
02:57:52,880 --> 02:57:57,439
employees who really are working hard.

4060
02:57:55,120 --> 02:58:00,160
Among them, Oipa, who's really working

4061
02:57:57,439 --> 02:58:03,920
hard on highlighting where we can get

4062
02:58:00,160 --> 02:58:06,000
better. So, I really really appreciate

4063
02:58:03,920 --> 02:58:07,760
this assessment. Like I said in my

4064
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:09,760
opening statements, we're also

4065
02:58:07,760 --> 02:58:13,200
internally doing an assessment of the

4066
02:58:09,760 --> 02:58:15,520
organizational structure of tools. We

4067
02:58:13,200 --> 02:58:18,640
will be putting out a request for

4068
02:58:15,520 --> 02:58:21,600
proposals for an assessment of our HR

4069
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:24,960
department. We have had discussions

4070
02:58:21,600 --> 02:58:27,840
about how we are going to go about

4071
02:58:24,960 --> 02:58:30,000
um our future management of our toll

4072
02:58:27,840 --> 02:58:32,160
systems and the business structure of

4073
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:34,880
it. and we will be having more

4074
02:58:32,160 --> 02:58:38,399
conversations. So I just wanted to put

4075
02:58:34,880 --> 02:58:41,200
it out there of all what's going on, all

4076
02:58:38,399 --> 02:58:44,560
what the team is doing and in the in the

4077
02:58:41,200 --> 02:58:46,160
meantime there is a humongous amount of

4078
02:58:44,560 --> 02:58:48,319
opportunities.

4079
02:58:46,160 --> 02:58:51,920
There is a lot of places where we can

4080
02:58:48,319 --> 02:58:54,640
work and focus and get better. No doubt

4081
02:58:51,920 --> 02:58:57,279
about it. But I'll let the team tell you

4082
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:59,279
a little bit what they have identified

4083
02:58:57,279 --> 02:59:01,200
and what they're working on because the

4084
02:58:59,279 --> 02:59:05,120
assessment as all as well as all the

4085
02:59:01,200 --> 02:59:08,800
other past uh audits let it be from OPA

4086
02:59:05,120 --> 02:59:11,600
or FDA or any other group I don't know

4087
02:59:08,800 --> 02:59:13,920
it compiles about 200 action items or

4088
02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:16,319
whatever I can't remember I do have a

4089
02:59:13,920 --> 02:59:17,920
meeting and keep track of them but

4090
02:59:16,319 --> 02:59:20,000
bringing that together with the

4091
02:59:17,920 --> 02:59:22,800
assessments is one what's going to help

4092
02:59:20,000 --> 02:59:25,840
us make a better organization.

4093
02:59:22,800 --> 02:59:27,520
And it's a journey. It's a journey. It's

4094
02:59:25,840 --> 02:59:30,479
not something that's going to happen

4095
02:59:27,520 --> 02:59:33,600
tomorrow. Team, take it over.

4096
02:59:30,479 --> 02:59:36,000
» Thank you. Good afternoon. I am Chennai

4097
02:59:33,600 --> 02:59:39,120
Pikney Forest, the director of internal

4098
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:41,040
controls. Uh with me today is Kim Traml,

4099
02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:43,920
director of accounting and finance,

4100
02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:46,399
Susan Huntington, director of financial

4101
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:48,800
planning, budgets, and grants, Grace

4102
02:59:46,399 --> 02:59:51,439
Mino, senior director of data science

4103
02:59:48,800 --> 02:59:53,920
and bits, and Don Vatis, our chief

4104
02:59:51,439 --> 02:59:57,439
financial officer. We're here to provide

4105
02:59:53,920 --> 02:59:59,439
an overview of our management response.

4106
02:59:57,439 --> 03:00:01,279
In today's presentation, we want to

4107
02:59:59,439 --> 03:00:03,040
acknowledge that we agree with the

4108
03:00:01,279 --> 03:00:05,600
recommendations from the Weaver

4109
03:00:03,040 --> 03:00:07,359
Assessment. We do thank Courtney and her

4110
03:00:05,600 --> 03:00:08,960
team as well as Weaver for their

4111
03:00:07,359 --> 03:00:11,120
observations.

4112
03:00:08,960 --> 03:00:13,359
The assessment identified seven key

4113
03:00:11,120 --> 03:00:15,600
areas where strengthened internal

4114
03:00:13,359 --> 03:00:18,319
controls can help improve and elevate

4115
03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:21,040
SANDAG's accounting, finance, and

4116
03:00:18,319 --> 03:00:23,439
budgeting functions. We'll discuss how

4117
03:00:21,040 --> 03:00:26,560
some of the core themes in the report

4118
03:00:23,439 --> 03:00:30,080
relate to some of our existing efforts.

4119
03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:32,160
The report provided confirmation um that

4120
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:35,200
we are on the correct track with the

4121
03:00:32,160 --> 03:00:37,680
areas we prioritize and presented to you

4122
03:00:35,200 --> 03:00:40,960
in earlier months related to policies

4123
03:00:37,680 --> 03:00:43,920
and procedures, documentation, training,

4124
03:00:40,960 --> 03:00:46,319
and change management. The report also

4125
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:48,479
provides us with insight regarding the

4126
03:00:46,319 --> 03:00:50,640
need for specific improvements within

4127
03:00:48,479 --> 03:00:53,439
our budgeting, accounting, and IT

4128
03:00:50,640 --> 03:00:55,840
departments. Our team will then provide

4129
03:00:53,439 --> 03:01:00,840
an overview of specific next steps

4130
03:00:55,840 --> 03:01:00,840
within their respective uh purview.

4131
03:01:01,439 --> 03:01:06,720
So as you see in this slide and as Holly

4132
03:01:04,080 --> 03:01:10,720
discussed earlier the report summarized

4133
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:13,040
its observations into seven core themes.

4134
03:01:10,720 --> 03:01:16,000
We want to highlight that three of these

4135
03:01:13,040 --> 03:01:18,319
themes we have as an internal focus as

4136
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:20,720
we continue to focus on the basics and

4137
03:01:18,319 --> 03:01:23,520
bolster our fundamental our foundational

4138
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:26,160
practices. So for example with policies

4139
03:01:23,520 --> 03:01:28,160
and procedures we are in the process of

4140
03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:30,399
finalizing our policy framework and

4141
03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:32,080
guidance. This framework is providing

4142
03:01:30,399 --> 03:01:34,319
guidance that will standardize the

4143
03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:36,080
content and the structure of the various

4144
03:01:34,319 --> 03:01:37,600
types of guidance we have within the

4145
03:01:36,080 --> 03:01:40,240
organization.

4146
03:01:37,600 --> 03:01:43,680
We're continuing to identify, draft,

4147
03:01:40,240 --> 03:01:46,560
and/or revise policies as specified in

4148
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:49,040
other audits, other assessments, and

4149
03:01:46,560 --> 03:01:51,279
through internal discussion.

4150
03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:54,000
The Weaver report also identified for us

4151
03:01:51,279 --> 03:01:56,800
specific areas um where pol specific

4152
03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:58,800
policy and procedure areas to enhance

4153
03:01:56,800 --> 03:02:00,560
within our accounting and budgeting

4154
03:01:58,800 --> 03:02:02,240
practices

4155
03:02:00,560 --> 03:02:04,479
within the training and workforce

4156
03:02:02,240 --> 03:02:06,560
development. Uh we are currently

4157
03:02:04,479 --> 03:02:09,279
identifying the needed content and

4158
03:02:06,560 --> 03:02:12,080
training hours for our organizationwide

4159
03:02:09,279 --> 03:02:14,479
training plan which has been informed by

4160
03:02:12,080 --> 03:02:17,760
previous audits, assessments,

4161
03:02:14,479 --> 03:02:19,840
regulations, and internal discussions.

4162
03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:21,200
We're identifying mandatory trainings,

4163
03:02:19,840 --> 03:02:23,760
trainings that are mandatory by

4164
03:02:21,200 --> 03:02:25,120
legislation and required trainings,

4165
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:28,080
trainings that we are currently

4166
03:02:25,120 --> 03:02:30,640
identifying internally as necessary to

4167
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:33,120
conduct job responsibilities.

4168
03:02:30,640 --> 03:02:35,920
In that plan, we've also already

4169
03:02:33,120 --> 03:02:37,920
identified anticipated training hours.

4170
03:02:35,920 --> 03:02:40,560
So, we have training hours slated for

4171
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:43,040
budget budgeting and invoicing practices

4172
03:02:40,560 --> 03:02:45,439
already and we'll use the Reaver report

4173
03:02:43,040 --> 03:02:48,080
to inform the content for those two

4174
03:02:45,439 --> 03:02:49,680
areas. Additionally, we're currently

4175
03:02:48,080 --> 03:02:51,520
developing the equivalent of a

4176
03:02:49,680 --> 03:02:54,399
procurement training series and a

4177
03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:56,160
project management series as well. For

4178
03:02:54,399 --> 03:02:58,240
change management, we're actively

4179
03:02:56,160 --> 03:03:00,560
reviewing and revising our change

4180
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:03,439
management protocols to be in alignment

4181
03:03:00,560 --> 03:03:05,840
with best practices. We also want to

4182
03:03:03,439 --> 03:03:09,520
note that all seven of these themes, of

4183
03:03:05,840 --> 03:03:11,760
course, are on our radar.

4184
03:03:09,520 --> 03:03:14,479
The assessment also recommended that the

4185
03:03:11,760 --> 03:03:17,520
director of internal controls develop an

4186
03:03:14,479 --> 03:03:20,640
comprehensive internal control framework

4187
03:03:17,520 --> 03:03:23,279
that captures accounting, budgeting and

4188
03:03:20,640 --> 03:03:25,840
information technology uh risk and

4189
03:03:23,279 --> 03:03:27,680
controls. With this, I have already

4190
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:29,920
begun developing frameworks for

4191
03:03:27,680 --> 03:03:32,720
practices related to our policies and

4192
03:03:29,920 --> 03:03:35,760
procedures, trainings and inventory

4193
03:03:32,720 --> 03:03:38,080
management. These frameworks at a high

4194
03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:40,640
level are iterative documents that are

4195
03:03:38,080 --> 03:03:42,960
capturing risk that have been identified

4196
03:03:40,640 --> 03:03:45,680
by previous audits, assessments, and my

4197
03:03:42,960 --> 03:03:48,160
discretion. We're documenting best

4198
03:03:45,680 --> 03:03:50,880
practice controls in this particular

4199
03:03:48,160 --> 03:03:52,880
framework framework. We're assessing

4200
03:03:50,880 --> 03:03:55,600
whether we have those controls currently

4201
03:03:52,880 --> 03:03:57,680
in place. If we have them in place, um

4202
03:03:55,600 --> 03:04:00,000
we're documenting what we're doing. If

4203
03:03:57,680 --> 03:04:02,880
those controls are currently missing, it

4204
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:05,600
is an indicator for us to prioritize um

4205
03:04:02,880 --> 03:04:07,200
putting those controls um in place,

4206
03:04:05,600 --> 03:04:08,880
testing them and making sure that they

4207
03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:10,960
are effective.

4208
03:04:08,880 --> 03:04:12,800
Um I will continue this effort of

4209
03:04:10,960 --> 03:04:15,760
developing these frameworks and will

4210
03:04:12,800 --> 03:04:17,600
include accounting, budgeting and IT uh

4211
03:04:15,760 --> 03:04:19,520
risk as well.

4212
03:04:17,600 --> 03:04:22,800
These frameworks will provide structure

4213
03:04:19,520 --> 03:04:25,840
for how Sandac manages it manages its

4214
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:28,319
risk um continuously monitors its

4215
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:31,120
operations and these frameworks will

4216
03:04:28,319 --> 03:04:34,000
also serve as secession planning tools

4217
03:04:31,120 --> 03:04:36,960
as how the organization conducts its

4218
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:39,680
business would be documented, accessible

4219
03:04:36,960 --> 03:04:42,720
and easy to follow. And now I will turn

4220
03:04:39,680 --> 03:04:44,880
it over to Kim to discuss our next steps

4221
03:04:42,720 --> 03:04:47,840
related to accounting and finance

4222
03:04:44,880 --> 03:04:49,760
recommendations.

4223
03:04:47,840 --> 03:04:51,120
Good afternoon,

4224
03:04:49,760 --> 03:04:53,359
Kimberly Traml, the director of

4225
03:04:51,120 --> 03:04:55,439
accounting and finance. And um I just

4226
03:04:53,359 --> 03:04:57,040
want to cover the recommendations for

4227
03:04:55,439 --> 03:04:59,120
the accounting and finance team which

4228
03:04:57,040 --> 03:05:00,800
fell into three general categories. The

4229
03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:04,399
first one being vendor invoice

4230
03:05:00,800 --> 03:05:05,920
processing. Um this area of SANDAG went

4231
03:05:04,399 --> 03:05:08,720
through major changes with the

4232
03:05:05,920 --> 03:05:10,880
implementation of our ERP system uh less

4233
03:05:08,720 --> 03:05:13,600
than two years ago and since then we've

4234
03:05:10,880 --> 03:05:16,080
been re-evaluating the process um to see

4235
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:18,160
what is working and what's not working.

4236
03:05:16,080 --> 03:05:20,479
And so we had already uh been working on

4237
03:05:18,160 --> 03:05:22,960
three of the five areas identified in

4238
03:05:20,479 --> 03:05:25,920
the report for improvement. One of those

4239
03:05:22,960 --> 03:05:28,000
that we've have already underway is the

4240
03:05:25,920 --> 03:05:31,120
implementation of the vendor module that

4241
03:05:28,000 --> 03:05:32,640
came in our ERP system. Um we are just

4242
03:05:31,120 --> 03:05:34,479
getting ready to move forward with a

4243
03:05:32,640 --> 03:05:37,040
pilot program and then we'll have that

4244
03:05:34,479 --> 03:05:39,680
available for all of our vendors at a

4245
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:42,880
later date. Um, another area that we

4246
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:45,439
have been working on is our establishing

4247
03:05:42,880 --> 03:05:47,760
a riskbased threshold for approvals of

4248
03:05:45,439 --> 03:05:49,760
our invoices. And this has been a little

4249
03:05:47,760 --> 03:05:52,479
complicated because Sandag is not a

4250
03:05:49,760 --> 03:05:54,479
one-sizefits-all. So, um, your toll

4251
03:05:52,479 --> 03:05:57,200
operations might want to review invoices

4252
03:05:54,479 --> 03:05:59,680
at a different rest basis than your

4253
03:05:57,200 --> 03:06:02,399
construction um, versus your

4254
03:05:59,680 --> 03:06:03,840
engineering. So, um, we have been trying

4255
03:06:02,399 --> 03:06:05,359
to figure out what will work best with

4256
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:07,359
the organization. We're moving forward

4257
03:06:05,359 --> 03:06:09,120
with a dollar-based threshold and we'll

4258
03:06:07,359 --> 03:06:12,000
continue to evaluate whether that's

4259
03:06:09,120 --> 03:06:14,319
meeting our risk needs. Um so

4260
03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:16,160
establishing that like I said has been

4261
03:06:14,319 --> 03:06:19,120
uh in process and will be available

4262
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:20,880
soon. Another area that we've been

4263
03:06:19,120 --> 03:06:22,880
looking at and working on are our

4264
03:06:20,880 --> 03:06:26,000
invoice payment time frames and really

4265
03:06:22,880 --> 03:06:28,800
making our staff aware of uh timeliness

4266
03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:31,840
for processing payments um and tracking

4267
03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:33,840
of invoice dates should the uh invoice

4268
03:06:31,840 --> 03:06:35,600
not meet our requirements because there

4269
03:06:33,840 --> 03:06:38,640
are a lot of requirements that come with

4270
03:06:35,600 --> 03:06:40,560
a grant-f funed invoice. Um we often

4271
03:06:38,640 --> 03:06:42,479
have to do a lot of back and forth with

4272
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:44,560
our vendors and make sure we're getting

4273
03:06:42,479 --> 03:06:47,200
all of the appropriate documentation.

4274
03:06:44,560 --> 03:06:49,040
And so it's on Sandag and and our staff

4275
03:06:47,200 --> 03:06:51,359
to make sure that we're documenting that

4276
03:06:49,040 --> 03:06:53,359
back and forth time and there's

4277
03:06:51,359 --> 03:06:55,520
sufficient reason for why an invoice

4278
03:06:53,359 --> 03:06:57,439
might not be paid in the appropriate

4279
03:06:55,520 --> 03:06:59,520
time frame because it didn't have

4280
03:06:57,439 --> 03:07:01,840
appropriate documentation.

4281
03:06:59,520 --> 03:07:04,800
So, um we will be able to utilize our

4282
03:07:01,840 --> 03:07:08,319
EIP system to track our receive dates

4283
03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:10,880
and um our due dates and we have already

4284
03:07:08,319 --> 03:07:13,040
put out guidance and um are working with

4285
03:07:10,880 --> 03:07:14,640
our essentially our contract manager

4286
03:07:13,040 --> 03:07:16,960
staff to make sure that they're

4287
03:07:14,640 --> 03:07:19,200
documenting those dates and any of that

4288
03:07:16,960 --> 03:07:22,000
back and forth that I mentioned. The

4289
03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:25,600
last area for vendor invoice processing

4290
03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:27,760
is a centralized invoice receipt. And um

4291
03:07:25,600 --> 03:07:29,680
what we're proposing to do is put

4292
03:07:27,760 --> 03:07:32,240
together a centralized invoice receipt

4293
03:07:29,680 --> 03:07:33,920
within each department of Sandag. Um

4294
03:07:32,240 --> 03:07:36,640
that also includes additional

4295
03:07:33,920 --> 03:07:39,520
monitoring. We get about 150 invoices a

4296
03:07:36,640 --> 03:07:41,279
week here at SANDAG. And so um we think

4297
03:07:39,520 --> 03:07:42,800
the best way to make sure that those are

4298
03:07:41,279 --> 03:07:45,200
getting to the right person for

4299
03:07:42,800 --> 03:07:48,160
processing is to do a centralized

4300
03:07:45,200 --> 03:07:50,240
invoice receipt within each department.

4301
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:52,160
The second area I want to talk about is

4302
03:07:50,240 --> 03:07:54,880
reconciliations within the accounting

4303
03:07:52,160 --> 03:07:57,040
department. Um we do have over 50

4304
03:07:54,880 --> 03:07:59,520
documented reconciliations that the

4305
03:07:57,040 --> 03:08:01,920
accounting group does right now and with

4306
03:07:59,520 --> 03:08:03,600
other priorities and and um projects

4307
03:08:01,920 --> 03:08:05,279
going on. Sometimes those don't get done

4308
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:07,600
until you're in and that's an area we

4309
03:08:05,279 --> 03:08:09,439
want to improve on. Um so we will

4310
03:08:07,600 --> 03:08:11,600
institutionalize the existing

4311
03:08:09,439 --> 03:08:13,439
reconciliation tracking schedule that we

4312
03:08:11,600 --> 03:08:14,960
have and make sure that it is being

4313
03:08:13,439 --> 03:08:16,880
monitored to make sure that our

4314
03:08:14,960 --> 03:08:19,040
reconciliations are happening more

4315
03:08:16,880 --> 03:08:21,920
timely. And we'll also be going through

4316
03:08:19,040 --> 03:08:23,760
to look and make sure that um if that

4317
03:08:21,920 --> 03:08:25,520
list is comprehensive and includes all

4318
03:08:23,760 --> 03:08:27,760
of the reconciliations that need to be

4319
03:08:25,520 --> 03:08:29,760
included as an example with bringing

4320
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:31,439
payroll in house in the last 6 months,

4321
03:08:29,760 --> 03:08:33,680
there's additional reconciliations that

4322
03:08:31,439 --> 03:08:35,359
need to be added to that list and bring

4323
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:38,240
all of this into our policies and

4324
03:08:35,359 --> 03:08:40,000
procedures around these areas. Um, one

4325
03:08:38,240 --> 03:08:41,600
thing we also noted, but was not

4326
03:08:40,000 --> 03:08:43,920
necessarily a recommendation, was that

4327
03:08:41,600 --> 03:08:45,840
we can um, add some clarifying language

4328
03:08:43,920 --> 03:08:47,359
to some of our quarterly reporting to

4329
03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:49,200
make sure that it's clear what we're

4330
03:08:47,359 --> 03:08:51,359
reporting and how that information can

4331
03:08:49,200 --> 03:08:53,439
be used.

4332
03:08:51,359 --> 03:08:55,439
The third area is around systems and

4333
03:08:53,439 --> 03:08:57,760
manual processes and we're always

4334
03:08:55,439 --> 03:08:59,920
looking for ways to automate. Um, it's

4335
03:08:57,760 --> 03:09:03,279
been a big change for the agency to go

4336
03:08:59,920 --> 03:09:05,200
into the ERP system and um, so we

4337
03:09:03,279 --> 03:09:07,760
continue to learn it and learn ways we

4338
03:09:05,200 --> 03:09:09,680
can automate. Um, one of the areas

4339
03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:12,640
touched on in the report is our toll

4340
03:09:09,680 --> 03:09:15,120
revenue accounting and um, that has been

4341
03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:17,359
a difficult area the last couple years

4342
03:09:15,120 --> 03:09:19,520
with uh, the change with limitations to

4343
03:09:17,359 --> 03:09:21,680
the back office system. Our management

4344
03:09:19,520 --> 03:09:24,479
team has been very hands-on in this area

4345
03:09:21,680 --> 03:09:26,240
to build a reliable process for pulling

4346
03:09:24,479 --> 03:09:28,160
the information we need out of the back

4347
03:09:26,240 --> 03:09:30,000
office system and getting that into our

4348
03:09:28,160 --> 03:09:32,080
accounting system and making sure the

4349
03:09:30,000 --> 03:09:34,800
reporting is accurate. We had to

4350
03:09:32,080 --> 03:09:36,479
identify a way to we had to identify

4351
03:09:34,800 --> 03:09:38,399
what the system could do and its

4352
03:09:36,479 --> 03:09:40,880
limitations and design a process around

4353
03:09:38,399 --> 03:09:42,800
that that mitigated risk. So we've now

4354
03:09:40,880 --> 03:09:45,040
designed that process. It's in place.

4355
03:09:42,800 --> 03:09:47,200
We've been using it. It's working well

4356
03:09:45,040 --> 03:09:49,120
with our audits. But we need to

4357
03:09:47,200 --> 03:09:50,800
institutionalize that essentially and

4358
03:09:49,120 --> 03:09:52,640
write up the policies and procedures

4359
03:09:50,800 --> 03:09:54,560
that go with that and make sure we're

4360
03:09:52,640 --> 03:09:57,920
defining and assigning roles so that

4361
03:09:54,560 --> 03:10:00,479
there's not a single point of um in that

4362
03:09:57,920 --> 03:10:02,160
process but that the whole team is a

4363
03:10:00,479 --> 03:10:04,080
part of it. The staff accountants

4364
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:06,000
working on the appropriate pieces and

4365
03:10:04,080 --> 03:10:08,560
the management is reviewing those

4366
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:10,800
pieces. So that is something that we

4367
03:10:08,560 --> 03:10:12,800
have in place. Um, and as I said, we're

4368
03:10:10,800 --> 03:10:15,520
looking at other ways that we can

4369
03:10:12,800 --> 03:10:16,960
institutionalize automation and in our

4370
03:10:15,520 --> 03:10:18,399
programs, but you have first have to

4371
03:10:16,960 --> 03:10:20,080
kind of once you put in a new system,

4372
03:10:18,399 --> 03:10:21,680
you first have to kind of learn that one

4373
03:10:20,080 --> 03:10:23,680
and learn what it can do and then you

4374
03:10:21,680 --> 03:10:25,120
learn how you can augment it. So, with

4375
03:10:23,680 --> 03:10:27,600
that, I will turn it over to Susan

4376
03:10:25,120 --> 03:10:29,600
Huntington. Thank you. Good afternoon.

4377
03:10:27,600 --> 03:10:31,279
I'm Susan Huntington. I'm Sand Dag's

4378
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:34,399
director of financial planning, budgets,

4379
03:10:31,279 --> 03:10:36,240
and grants. The assessment provided uh a

4380
03:10:34,399 --> 03:10:38,479
clear path forward and many of the

4381
03:10:36,240 --> 03:10:40,640
recommendations align with work already

4382
03:10:38,479 --> 03:10:43,359
underway in the financial planning,

4383
03:10:40,640 --> 03:10:45,359
budgeting, and grants department. Our

4384
03:10:43,359 --> 03:10:47,279
top priority actions fall into two

4385
03:10:45,359 --> 03:10:49,439
areas, the grant compliance and the

4386
03:10:47,279 --> 03:10:51,200
budget monitoring. On the grant

4387
03:10:49,439 --> 03:10:53,439
compliance side, we're focused on

4388
03:10:51,200 --> 03:10:55,439
ensuring accuracy and improving the

4389
03:10:53,439 --> 03:10:59,359
timeliness of reimbursements to our

4390
03:10:55,439 --> 03:11:01,439
grantees. So, this will be um similar to

4391
03:10:59,359 --> 03:11:03,680
what we've just heard from Kimberly as

4392
03:11:01,439 --> 03:11:06,240
she was talking about the in um the

4393
03:11:03,680 --> 03:11:07,600
vendor invoice processes. So, first

4394
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:10,720
we're addressing the prompt payment

4395
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:12,560
requirements under CFR 200 which

4396
03:11:10,720 --> 03:11:15,200
indicates that a recipient of federal

4397
03:11:12,560 --> 03:11:17,200
funding must make payment to a subreient

4398
03:11:15,200 --> 03:11:19,680
within 30 days after receipt of the

4399
03:11:17,200 --> 03:11:22,399
payment request unless the entity in

4400
03:11:19,680 --> 03:11:25,120
this case it's SANDAG reasonably

4401
03:11:22,399 --> 03:11:26,960
believes the request to be improper. So,

4402
03:11:25,120 --> 03:11:29,439
the assessment noted that the invoice

4403
03:11:26,960 --> 03:11:31,920
received dates are not consistently

4404
03:11:29,439 --> 03:11:34,160
tracked in the ERP and some program

4405
03:11:31,920 --> 03:11:36,160
managers maintain logs outside of the

4406
03:11:34,160 --> 03:11:38,160
system. In addition, there's been

4407
03:11:36,160 --> 03:11:40,640
confusion about which date should be

4408
03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:43,040
entered, the initial submittal date or

4409
03:11:40,640 --> 03:11:45,840
the date a complete and accurate invoice

4410
03:11:43,040 --> 03:11:48,399
is received, which may come at a later

4411
03:11:45,840 --> 03:11:51,040
date after issues are resolved with the

4412
03:11:48,399 --> 03:11:53,040
grantee. To address this, we are

4413
03:11:51,040 --> 03:11:55,680
evaluating updates to our contract

4414
03:11:53,040 --> 03:11:58,160
language and training to our program

4415
03:11:55,680 --> 03:12:00,720
managers to clearly define invoice

4416
03:11:58,160 --> 03:12:03,600
requirements and to require the use of a

4417
03:12:00,720 --> 03:12:05,520
standardized invoice form. Until now,

4418
03:12:03,600 --> 03:12:08,319
we've strongly encouraged the use of the

4419
03:12:05,520 --> 03:12:10,080
form, but have not required it. In the

4420
03:12:08,319 --> 03:12:12,560
near term, we will establish a central

4421
03:12:10,080 --> 03:12:14,800
location for invoice logging, tracking,

4422
03:12:12,560 --> 03:12:17,439
and issue documentations that all

4423
03:12:14,800 --> 03:12:19,760
program managers will use. This will

4424
03:12:17,439 --> 03:12:21,520
increase transparency and accountability

4425
03:12:19,760 --> 03:12:23,120
and better support timely

4426
03:12:21,520 --> 03:12:25,520
reimbursements.

4427
03:12:23,120 --> 03:12:27,600
We'll also begin regular reporting of

4428
03:12:25,520 --> 03:12:29,439
our timely payment performance to senior

4429
03:12:27,600 --> 03:12:31,520
leadership.

4430
03:12:29,439 --> 03:12:33,600
This connects directly to our second

4431
03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:35,359
priority action developing invoice and

4432
03:12:33,600 --> 03:12:38,399
reimbursement checklists tailored to

4433
03:12:35,359 --> 03:12:42,240
each program. So, the current agencywide

4434
03:12:38,399 --> 03:12:44,479
checklist for our invoice uh review does

4435
03:12:42,240 --> 03:12:47,200
not capture the programspecific

4436
03:12:44,479 --> 03:12:49,359
requirements we must verify across our

4437
03:12:47,200 --> 03:12:51,920
federal, state, and local funding

4438
03:12:49,359 --> 03:12:54,160
guidelines. So, documenting the full

4439
03:12:51,920 --> 03:12:56,479
review steps for each program will

4440
03:12:54,160 --> 03:12:58,080
strengthen accuracy, consistency, and

4441
03:12:56,479 --> 03:12:59,600
compliance.

4442
03:12:58,080 --> 03:13:01,040
And then our other set of priority

4443
03:12:59,600 --> 03:13:03,600
actions relate to the budget

4444
03:13:01,040 --> 03:13:05,520
development, monitoring, and reporting.

4445
03:13:03,600 --> 03:13:08,000
The assessment notes that SANDAG does

4446
03:13:05,520 --> 03:13:10,240
not yet have a single integrated budget

4447
03:13:08,000 --> 03:13:12,319
development and monitoring system. So

4448
03:13:10,240 --> 03:13:14,880
while implementing the ERP was an

4449
03:13:12,319 --> 03:13:18,479
important step, our budget still stand

4450
03:13:14,880 --> 03:13:20,880
spans several platforms. So we use um a

4451
03:13:18,479 --> 03:13:23,040
a tool it's called PM tools to put

4452
03:13:20,880 --> 03:13:25,439
together our capital budgets. We use

4453
03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:28,319
IMBm for our personnel resource

4454
03:13:25,439 --> 03:13:31,279
allocation and we use ERP for non-

4455
03:13:28,319 --> 03:13:33,600
capital budgets and actual expenditures.

4456
03:13:31,279 --> 03:13:35,920
To improve oversight, we're formalizing

4457
03:13:33,600 --> 03:13:37,920
required monthly and quarterly budget to

4458
03:13:35,920 --> 03:13:39,359
actual reviews for project managers,

4459
03:13:37,920 --> 03:13:42,080
department directors, and senior

4460
03:13:39,359 --> 03:13:44,080
leadership. We have established a group

4461
03:13:42,080 --> 03:13:46,319
of department analysts who serve as

4462
03:13:44,080 --> 03:13:48,479
budget coordinators and provide support

4463
03:13:46,319 --> 03:13:50,720
with annual development and ongoing

4464
03:13:48,479 --> 03:13:52,720
monitoring. These staff are key

4465
03:13:50,720 --> 03:13:54,319
collaborators with project managers,

4466
03:13:52,720 --> 03:13:56,399
department directors, and central

4467
03:13:54,319 --> 03:13:59,680
budgets and provide additional oversight

4468
03:13:56,399 --> 03:14:01,920
and analysis of budget utilization.

4469
03:13:59,680 --> 03:14:03,920
As part of documenting processes and

4470
03:14:01,920 --> 03:14:06,080
procedures in a budget handbook which is

4471
03:14:03,920 --> 03:14:08,160
currently under development, a REI

4472
03:14:06,080 --> 03:14:09,840
matrix will be implemented to clearly

4473
03:14:08,160 --> 03:14:12,800
define roles for each step of the

4474
03:14:09,840 --> 03:14:14,399
budgeting and monitoring process.

4475
03:14:12,800 --> 03:14:16,239
In addition, we're working with our

4476
03:14:14,399 --> 03:14:18,399
technology team to create automated

4477
03:14:16,239 --> 03:14:20,479
reports that pull data from all these

4478
03:14:18,399 --> 03:14:22,239
various spirit systems to provide

4479
03:14:20,479 --> 03:14:24,560
consistent real-time financial

4480
03:14:22,239 --> 03:14:27,279
information. This will allow us to shift

4481
03:14:24,560 --> 03:14:29,600
from reactive analysis to more proactive

4482
03:14:27,279 --> 03:14:32,640
finan financial management and

4483
03:14:29,600 --> 03:14:34,800
strengthen financial decision-making.

4484
03:14:32,640 --> 03:14:37,040
And I do want to note the timing of this

4485
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:39,120
assessment is particularly helpful as

4486
03:14:37,040 --> 03:14:43,200
the agency is currently developing the

4487
03:14:39,120 --> 03:14:45,520
FY27 budget. So this work occurs in the

4488
03:14:43,200 --> 03:14:48,080
May in the November through May time

4489
03:14:45,520 --> 03:14:50,000
frame. The findings and recommendations

4490
03:14:48,080 --> 03:14:51,840
from this assessment will guide our work

4491
03:14:50,000 --> 03:14:53,439
throughout this process and will inform

4492
03:14:51,840 --> 03:14:55,439
our lessons learned for the upcoming

4493
03:14:53,439 --> 03:14:57,359
year. With that, I'll turn it over to

4494
03:14:55,439 --> 03:15:00,479
Grace Mino to discuss technology

4495
03:14:57,359 --> 03:15:02,560
implementation and change management.

4496
03:15:00,479 --> 03:15:04,640
» Good afternoon, chair, vice chair,

4497
03:15:02,560 --> 03:15:06,960
second vice chair, and board members. My

4498
03:15:04,640 --> 03:15:09,600
name is Grace Mino, and I am your senior

4499
03:15:06,960 --> 03:15:12,399
director of data science, and I oversee

4500
03:15:09,600 --> 03:15:14,479
our IT department as well. Again, I just

4501
03:15:12,399 --> 03:15:18,160
want to echo Mario's sentiment to both

4502
03:15:14,479 --> 03:15:20,720
Courtney Oipa and also the Weaver team

4503
03:15:18,160 --> 03:15:23,359
um just for presenting gaps and areas of

4504
03:15:20,720 --> 03:15:25,680
opportunity to help us improve and also

4505
03:15:23,359 --> 03:15:27,680
highlighting the systems development

4506
03:15:25,680 --> 03:15:29,760
life cycle and how that is a very

4507
03:15:27,680 --> 03:15:32,239
iterative process where we're

4508
03:15:29,760 --> 03:15:34,800
processing, analyzing, designing,

4509
03:15:32,239 --> 03:15:36,720
developing, testing, implementing and

4510
03:15:34,800 --> 03:15:40,800
maintaining all the things when it comes

4511
03:15:36,720 --> 03:15:43,520
to new software. I want to also um echo

4512
03:15:40,800 --> 03:15:45,760
what Chené, Kimberly, and Susan have

4513
03:15:43,520 --> 03:15:47,760
already highlighted that a lot of the

4514
03:15:45,760 --> 03:15:49,680
processes and recommendations from

4515
03:15:47,760 --> 03:15:51,600
Weaver are things that staff have

4516
03:15:49,680 --> 03:15:54,080
already been working on. And so that's

4517
03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:56,720
like formalizing our change management

4518
03:15:54,080 --> 03:15:59,439
process, formalizing our IT governance

4519
03:15:56,720 --> 03:16:02,080
and data governance and also moving

4520
03:15:59,439 --> 03:16:04,960
forward that any technology or software

4521
03:16:02,080 --> 03:16:07,040
that is being brought into the agency um

4522
03:16:04,960 --> 03:16:08,880
is going through a needs assessment, a

4523
03:16:07,040 --> 03:16:11,120
risk assessment, also going through

4524
03:16:08,880 --> 03:16:13,279
systems requirements. And we also want

4525
03:16:11,120 --> 03:16:15,760
to ensure that it can integrate with our

4526
03:16:13,279 --> 03:16:17,600
ERP system and that we can also find

4527
03:16:15,760 --> 03:16:20,000
ways to automate and make sure we're not

4528
03:16:17,600 --> 03:16:21,840
doing these manual workarounds. Um,

4529
03:16:20,000 --> 03:16:23,760
another thing that was highlighted and

4530
03:16:21,840 --> 03:16:26,000
is continuing to be highlighted is

4531
03:16:23,760 --> 03:16:27,600
training. We want to ensure that our

4532
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:29,279
staff are being trained and are

4533
03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:32,160
comfortable with anything new that's

4534
03:16:29,279 --> 03:16:34,479
coming into the agency. And moving

4535
03:16:32,160 --> 03:16:36,800
forward internally in January, we'll be

4536
03:16:34,479 --> 03:16:40,319
doing a cross-discipline deep dive

4537
03:16:36,800 --> 03:16:42,000
workshop on our ERP system, taking the

4538
03:16:40,319 --> 03:16:44,080
systems requirements when it was

4539
03:16:42,000 --> 03:16:46,319
conducted as a competitive process about

4540
03:16:44,080 --> 03:16:48,000
3 to four years ago and aligning it to

4541
03:16:46,319 --> 03:16:50,399
what the business needs are within the

4542
03:16:48,000 --> 03:16:53,279
agency. what is it not meeting right

4543
03:16:50,399 --> 03:16:56,800
now? Um, we're also looking into hiring

4544
03:16:53,279 --> 03:17:00,080
an ERP specific systems administrator

4545
03:16:56,800 --> 03:17:02,319
and we'll probably be doing a uh RFP for

4546
03:17:00,080 --> 03:17:04,800
a consultant to help us bridge the gaps

4547
03:17:02,319 --> 03:17:06,720
and also help us maximize utilizing the

4548
03:17:04,800 --> 03:17:09,200
system and helping us implement and

4549
03:17:06,720 --> 03:17:11,680
develop the KPIs. We've also been

4550
03:17:09,200 --> 03:17:13,920
talking to our partner NPOS's across the

4551
03:17:11,680 --> 03:17:16,479
uh the nation that are also doing ERP

4552
03:17:13,920 --> 03:17:19,680
implementations and where uh we're just

4553
03:17:16,479 --> 03:17:22,479
sharing lessons learned. Um lastly, um

4554
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:23,920
Mario had highlighted that we um along

4555
03:17:22,479 --> 03:17:25,359
with the financial assessment, we're

4556
03:17:23,920 --> 03:17:27,439
doing an assessment of our HR

4557
03:17:25,359 --> 03:17:29,040
department. Uh we are also looking into

4558
03:17:27,439 --> 03:17:32,399
doing an assessment of our IT

4559
03:17:29,040 --> 03:17:35,760
department. Um and then now I will also

4560
03:17:32,399 --> 03:17:38,960
pass it over to our CFO, Don Batist.

4561
03:17:35,760 --> 03:17:41,359
» Hi, thank you. Uh, I

4562
03:17:38,960 --> 03:17:43,439
wanted to just wrap this up today by

4563
03:17:41,359 --> 03:17:45,200
acknowledging all of the work that's

4564
03:17:43,439 --> 03:17:47,359
been going on in the agency that you've

4565
03:17:45,200 --> 03:17:49,600
just heard about. Um, there's a

4566
03:17:47,359 --> 03:17:51,439
significant amount of work going on as

4567
03:17:49,600 --> 03:17:54,720
you heard Mario mentioned at the top.

4568
03:17:51,439 --> 03:17:57,359
You know, we still have outstanding

4569
03:17:54,720 --> 03:17:59,520
um, uh, corrective action plan items

4570
03:17:57,359 --> 03:18:02,640
from previous audits. We've add added

4571
03:17:59,520 --> 03:18:05,200
these in, but this uh assessment, you

4572
03:18:02,640 --> 03:18:08,399
know, really has given us a good road

4573
03:18:05,200 --> 03:18:10,000
map and it took items that we knew we

4574
03:18:08,399 --> 03:18:12,399
needed to work on, things that you've

4575
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:15,279
heard we had already started working on

4576
03:18:12,399 --> 03:18:18,640
and really helped us prioritize them in

4577
03:18:15,279 --> 03:18:20,080
a more efficient manner. Um, so we

4578
03:18:18,640 --> 03:18:21,760
really want to thank the independent

4579
03:18:20,080 --> 03:18:24,640
audit office. We really want to thank

4580
03:18:21,760 --> 03:18:27,120
the Weaver team. And I also want to

4581
03:18:24,640 --> 03:18:30,000
acknowledge all the staff here at Sande

4582
03:18:27,120 --> 03:18:32,640
who participated in this process, the

4583
03:18:30,000 --> 03:18:35,920
interviews, the documents uh that were

4584
03:18:32,640 --> 03:18:38,479
were provided for it. So with that, I

4585
03:18:35,920 --> 03:18:40,640
think the audit team will come back up

4586
03:18:38,479 --> 03:18:44,760
to the table and we will close this out

4587
03:18:40,640 --> 03:18:44,760
and be open for questions.

4588
03:19:05,840 --> 03:19:09,359
We're available to take questions.

4589
03:19:07,760 --> 03:19:11,040
» Okay, we'll go to the public first and

4590
03:19:09,359 --> 03:19:12,880
then we will um go to the board for

4591
03:19:11,040 --> 03:19:15,359
questions. Michael?

4592
03:19:12,880 --> 03:19:16,960
» Yes. Uh we have two in person and three

4593
03:19:15,359 --> 03:19:18,479
online.

4594
03:19:16,960 --> 03:19:21,479
First is truth followed by Caesar

4595
03:19:18,479 --> 03:19:21,479
Javier.

4596
03:19:26,640 --> 03:19:31,359
Mario, the Sandag car has racked up way

4597
03:19:28,880 --> 03:19:34,160
too many GHS and VMTs and has refused to

4598
03:19:31,359 --> 03:19:37,120
pay its tolls. Why does it take five

4599
03:19:34,160 --> 03:19:38,960
people for SANDA to just say they agree?

4600
03:19:37,120 --> 03:19:40,000
For some, the question is, what's the

4601
03:19:38,960 --> 03:19:41,439
difference between an audit and

4602
03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:43,359
assessment? But for me, the question is,

4603
03:19:41,439 --> 03:19:45,520
what's the point of an assessment? Seems

4604
03:19:43,359 --> 03:19:47,200
like a waste of tax. I don't know when

4605
03:19:45,520 --> 03:19:48,479
this was approved or how much it cost us

4606
03:19:47,200 --> 03:19:50,560
to do, but it feels like answers

4607
03:19:48,479 --> 03:19:52,160
everybody should already know. I had to

4608
03:19:50,560 --> 03:19:53,760
look up the term principle of least

4609
03:19:52,160 --> 03:19:56,399
privilege and I like it because it's the

4610
03:19:53,760 --> 03:19:58,720
equivalent of a need to know basis. It's

4611
03:19:56,399 --> 03:20:00,080
right next to know your role. Hassan and

4612
03:19:58,720 --> 03:20:01,600
the previous board did not know their

4613
03:20:00,080 --> 03:20:04,560
roles and that's why I showed up to

4614
03:20:01,600 --> 03:20:06,800
disrupt their systems, corrupt systems.

4615
03:20:04,560 --> 03:20:08,800
And as I said before, Senak has not had

4616
03:20:06,800 --> 03:20:11,120
a controls issue or a technology issue

4617
03:20:08,800 --> 03:20:13,680
or a systems issue more than it's had a

4618
03:20:11,120 --> 03:20:15,840
people issue. If someone wants to argue

4619
03:20:13,680 --> 03:20:17,439
that a corporate setup with 19 plus

4620
03:20:15,840 --> 03:20:19,439
representatives who were never elected

4621
03:20:17,439 --> 03:20:21,279
to be on sandag deciding what happens

4622
03:20:19,439 --> 03:20:23,600
for transportation and housing and who

4623
03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:26,160
knows what in the future is a technology

4624
03:20:23,600 --> 03:20:28,880
based system and control pro problem all

4625
03:20:26,160 --> 03:20:30,960
100% agree to that. Sandag was built

4626
03:20:28,880 --> 03:20:32,720
with policies that were not followed.

4627
03:20:30,960 --> 03:20:34,800
Sand had plenty of well-qualified

4628
03:20:32,720 --> 03:20:36,479
employees in the past who chose to do

4629
03:20:34,800 --> 03:20:38,720
the wrong thing for either greed or

4630
03:20:36,479 --> 03:20:40,160
fear. Proven experience and proven

4631
03:20:38,720 --> 03:20:42,000
character are the solutions that no

4632
03:20:40,160 --> 03:20:44,640
assessment or audit can make everyone at

4633
03:20:42,000 --> 03:20:46,239
San willing to choose. The right people

4634
03:20:44,640 --> 03:20:47,920
in the right places will stay here when

4635
03:20:46,239 --> 03:20:50,479
the transition and resolution to pass

4636
03:20:47,920 --> 03:20:52,319
corruption is complete and consistent.

4637
03:20:50,479 --> 03:20:54,239
For transparency and accountability,

4638
03:20:52,319 --> 03:20:57,120
sometimes all it takes is one brave

4639
03:20:54,239 --> 03:20:59,840
whistleblower or speaker or board member

4640
03:20:57,120 --> 03:21:02,239
to make permanent changes. Don't allow

4641
03:20:59,840 --> 03:21:04,640
SandAG to go backwards like it almost

4642
03:21:02,239 --> 03:21:07,040
did at the last meeting. If this is a

4643
03:21:04,640 --> 03:21:10,000
project-driven agency, then focus on

4644
03:21:07,040 --> 03:21:12,239
projects, not check checked box

4645
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:14,720
politics. I'm going to repeat it again

4646
03:21:12,239 --> 03:21:17,920
so you really hear it. Projects, not

4647
03:21:14,720 --> 03:21:20,640
politics. It's very clear. Get the work

4648
03:21:17,920 --> 03:21:23,279
done efficiently, timely, and ethically.

4649
03:21:20,640 --> 03:21:25,439
And then somebody tell the county how to

4650
03:21:23,279 --> 03:21:28,640
operate that way. We can all live much

4651
03:21:25,439 --> 03:21:30,560
better. Thank you.

4652
03:21:28,640 --> 03:21:32,560
» Next is Caesar Javier, followed by Paul

4653
03:21:30,560 --> 03:21:35,600
the Bold online.

4654
03:21:32,560 --> 03:21:39,520
Cesar and Purita in two minutes. Thank

4655
03:21:35,600 --> 03:21:44,560
you. Sandag will be a repeater students

4656
03:21:39,520 --> 03:21:47,760
in this great university. Thank you sir

4657
03:21:44,560 --> 03:21:52,080
Mito. I

4658
03:21:47,760 --> 03:21:56,880
could switch to honorable Sito.

4659
03:21:52,080 --> 03:22:02,080
Thank you because it's educating us that

4660
03:21:56,880 --> 03:22:08,319
the city of San Diego is an independent

4661
03:22:02,080 --> 03:22:12,800
you know planning visioning about shell

4662
03:22:08,319 --> 03:22:14,640
man shelter society and the specialty of

4663
03:22:12,800 --> 03:22:18,319
sandag

4664
03:22:14,640 --> 03:22:20,160
which includes now we heard

4665
03:22:18,319 --> 03:22:21,680
sheltering

4666
03:22:20,160 --> 03:22:25,279
home

4667
03:22:21,680 --> 03:22:29,680
home or house for San Dieans. Thank you,

4668
03:22:25,279 --> 03:22:34,239
Sand. My question is, did you include in

4669
03:22:29,680 --> 03:22:37,600
your investigation how this

4670
03:22:34,239 --> 03:22:39,200
members of this elite thinkers how they

4671
03:22:37,600 --> 03:22:43,920
perform?

4672
03:22:39,200 --> 03:22:47,920
Like a question, how did the mayor

4673
03:22:43,920 --> 03:22:52,120
declared in his city address last year,

4674
03:22:47,920 --> 03:22:52,120
oh, we have 252

4675
03:22:52,640 --> 03:22:58,479
million deficit

4676
03:22:54,720 --> 03:23:02,479
when the EVA organic element says only

4677
03:22:58,479 --> 03:23:06,120
85 what's happening to our city sir

4678
03:23:02,479 --> 03:23:06,120
Lakava sirly

4679
03:23:06,960 --> 03:23:16,160
you know it San Dieagans

4680
03:23:10,720 --> 03:23:19,040
and we are fearful that our money is not

4681
03:23:16,160 --> 03:23:23,640
going to where we should be enjoying

4682
03:23:19,040 --> 03:23:23,640
life in our community.

4683
03:23:24,239 --> 03:23:28,479
» Thank you for the investigation. That's

4684
03:23:25,840 --> 03:23:31,040
a thesis writing. Thank you for that

4685
03:23:28,479 --> 03:23:34,720
dissitation.

4686
03:23:31,040 --> 03:23:37,439
We are repeater for next year and it's

4687
03:23:34,720 --> 03:23:38,880
free. Thank you, Sandag.

4688
03:23:37,439 --> 03:23:41,359
The city of San Diego.

4689
03:23:38,880 --> 03:23:43,359
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

4690
03:23:41,359 --> 03:23:46,760
is Paul the Bold online followed by the

4691
03:23:43,359 --> 03:23:46,760
original draw.

4692
03:23:53,520 --> 03:24:00,479
Hello. Although past audits highlighting

4693
03:23:57,279 --> 03:24:05,120
deficiencies in Sandag's internal

4694
03:24:00,479 --> 03:24:08,239
controls were bad, but this is scathing.

4695
03:24:05,120 --> 03:24:11,200
It is shocking that Sandag still does

4696
03:24:08,239 --> 03:24:14,399
not have a comprehensive framework to

4697
03:24:11,200 --> 03:24:18,239
consistently assess and monitor key

4698
03:24:14,399 --> 03:24:22,000
internal controls after years of

4699
03:24:18,239 --> 03:24:25,520
scandals and scathing audits. The

4700
03:24:22,000 --> 03:24:27,520
non-key deficiencies are basic areas

4701
03:24:25,520 --> 03:24:30,560
that should have been properly

4702
03:24:27,520 --> 03:24:33,840
controlled from the start. but instead

4703
03:24:30,560 --> 03:24:37,439
you devise overly complex policies and

4704
03:24:33,840 --> 03:24:41,359
procedures to weaken these. It is

4705
03:24:37,439 --> 03:24:43,120
telling that this audit gently called an

4706
03:24:41,359 --> 03:24:46,640
assessment

4707
03:24:43,120 --> 03:24:50,319
specifically recommends quote using

4708
03:24:46,640 --> 03:24:53,520
external qualified advisors unquote

4709
03:24:50,319 --> 03:24:58,239
rather than internal processes you have

4710
03:24:53,520 --> 03:25:00,960
relied on. So who is exactly is calling

4711
03:24:58,239 --> 03:25:04,319
the shots at Sandag?

4712
03:25:00,960 --> 03:25:07,359
It is time to include the SandAG inter

4713
03:25:04,319 --> 03:25:10,960
independent auditor on the board. The

4714
03:25:07,359 --> 03:25:14,319
continuing audit failures would be less

4715
03:25:10,960 --> 03:25:17,359
if there were regular finance accounting

4716
03:25:14,319 --> 03:25:20,479
or audit advice right here for you to

4717
03:25:17,359 --> 03:25:23,520
hear before this scandal.

4718
03:25:20,479 --> 03:25:26,160
As for the response, it it's a real

4719
03:25:23,520 --> 03:25:28,720
tragic comedy that management agrees

4720
03:25:26,160 --> 03:25:31,920
with all of the recommendations

4721
03:25:28,720 --> 03:25:34,880
that it has not implemented after all

4722
03:25:31,920 --> 03:25:39,520
the promises we've heard. We hear the

4723
03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:42,319
excuses, but just do it. Amazing that

4724
03:25:39,520 --> 03:25:45,279
there is still no centralized point for

4725
03:25:42,319 --> 03:25:48,160
collecting invoices and no time frame

4726
03:25:45,279 --> 03:25:50,960
for paying them. I wonder how many

4727
03:25:48,160 --> 03:25:54,239
potential contractors and workers this

4728
03:25:50,960 --> 03:25:55,760
is alienated because they want to get

4729
03:25:54,239 --> 03:26:00,080
paid.

4730
03:25:55,760 --> 03:26:02,479
Um, it's amazing that reconciliation.

4731
03:26:00,080 --> 03:26:04,080
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Next

4732
03:26:02,479 --> 03:26:05,600
is original draw followed by Mike

4733
03:26:04,080 --> 03:26:06,960
Bulock.

4734
03:26:05,600 --> 03:26:09,680
» Yeah. Part of the problem is that you

4735
03:26:06,960 --> 03:26:11,520
guys never want to look at the people

4736
03:26:09,680 --> 03:26:13,920
that are engaged in fraud, waste, and

4737
03:26:11,520 --> 03:26:16,720
abuse because you'll sit here and you

4738
03:26:13,920 --> 03:26:18,720
bring up these presentations and, you

4739
03:26:16,720 --> 03:26:20,479
know, sit there and and and try and

4740
03:26:18,720 --> 03:26:22,160
paint a pretty picture that you guys are

4741
03:26:20,479 --> 03:26:23,760
really, you know, mitigating things, but

4742
03:26:22,160 --> 03:26:26,399
you have your hands in way too many

4743
03:26:23,760 --> 03:26:28,479
buckets and you are illquipped to

4744
03:26:26,399 --> 03:26:30,080
provide the things that you are, you

4745
03:26:28,479 --> 03:26:32,720
know, professing that you're going to

4746
03:26:30,080 --> 03:26:34,720
provide. So when you sit here and and

4747
03:26:32,720 --> 03:26:37,520
virtue signal like it's so great that

4748
03:26:34,720 --> 03:26:39,760
you're doing so many things when there's

4749
03:26:37,520 --> 03:26:42,160
so many issues with all of the things

4750
03:26:39,760 --> 03:26:43,920
that you're doing, you know, it just

4751
03:26:42,160 --> 03:26:46,080
shows that these things are that you

4752
03:26:43,920 --> 03:26:48,640
this presentation is just to continue

4753
03:26:46,080 --> 03:26:51,520
the fraud, waste, and abuse because you

4754
03:26:48,640 --> 03:26:53,520
just want to set up all this stuff, you

4755
03:26:51,520 --> 03:26:56,319
know, and we pay more and more money to

4756
03:26:53,520 --> 03:26:58,399
to try and have accountability and all

4757
03:26:56,319 --> 03:27:00,560
this stuff. But I mean, you even sit

4758
03:26:58,399 --> 03:27:03,600
there and profess that you listen to the

4759
03:27:00,560 --> 03:27:05,520
local community. You don't. I mean, you

4760
03:27:03,600 --> 03:27:07,920
don't even reach out to the people in

4761
03:27:05,520 --> 03:27:09,279
the community like you should. And you

4762
03:27:07,920 --> 03:27:11,040
should be, you know, when you were

4763
03:27:09,279 --> 03:27:13,359
implementing things like tolls, be

4764
03:27:11,040 --> 03:27:16,080
getting a vote from the people because

4765
03:27:13,359 --> 03:27:17,439
if you really did get the input from the

4766
03:27:16,080 --> 03:27:18,960
people, you wouldn't have the support

4767
03:27:17,439 --> 03:27:21,279
that you do. I mean, people don't even

4768
03:27:18,960 --> 03:27:23,359
know who you are. And that helps you

4769
03:27:21,279 --> 03:27:25,760
guys so that you can say that you're

4770
03:27:23,359 --> 03:27:28,560
doing what the people want, you know,

4771
03:27:25,760 --> 03:27:31,200
and it's unfortunate because the people

4772
03:27:28,560 --> 03:27:32,640
should be, you know, having a voice, not

4773
03:27:31,200 --> 03:27:34,160
the stakeholders, not all the people

4774
03:27:32,640 --> 03:27:36,560
that you're going to make money from,

4775
03:27:34,160 --> 03:27:39,040
the people that you get your money from

4776
03:27:36,560 --> 03:27:40,800
that you sit here and waste because you

4777
03:27:39,040 --> 03:27:43,200
engage, like I've said before, with

4778
03:27:40,800 --> 03:27:44,960
people who, you know, cost us more and

4779
03:27:43,200 --> 03:27:46,479
more money are engaged in the fraud,

4780
03:27:44,960 --> 03:27:48,560
waste, and abuse when you contract with

4781
03:27:46,479 --> 03:27:51,359
them, whether it's internally or

4782
03:27:48,560 --> 03:27:53,600
externally. and and nothing really gets

4783
03:27:51,359 --> 03:27:55,439
done about it. People retire with, you

4784
03:27:53,600 --> 03:27:58,000
know, pensions and all of these great

4785
03:27:55,439 --> 03:28:00,479
things and and the fraud, waste, and

4786
03:27:58,000 --> 03:28:03,200
abuse continues. And the people, you

4787
03:28:00,479 --> 03:28:06,000
know, are sitting here, you know, buying

4788
03:28:03,200 --> 03:28:07,200
the propaganda if they do listen. And so

4789
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:08,399
they think you're going to do what

4790
03:28:07,200 --> 03:28:09,840
you're going to do, but all they have to

4791
03:28:08,399 --> 03:28:12,239
do is look at the world around us and

4792
03:28:09,840 --> 03:28:12,479
see.

4793
03:28:12,239 --> 03:28:14,239
Our

4794
03:28:12,479 --> 03:28:15,920
» Next public comment is Mike Bulick,

4795
03:28:14,239 --> 03:28:19,399
followed by our last public comment

4796
03:28:15,920 --> 03:28:19,399
ending in 8813.

4797
03:28:20,479 --> 03:28:27,120
Yeah, thank you uh Sande. Um what what I

4798
03:28:24,560 --> 03:28:30,080
hear is a lot of very professional,

4799
03:28:27,120 --> 03:28:33,439
smart, hardworking people trying their

4800
03:28:30,080 --> 03:28:37,279
very best uh to address uh a very

4801
03:28:33,439 --> 03:28:39,600
unfortunate sequence of events. Um it

4802
03:28:37,279 --> 03:28:41,359
may have seemed pretty simple to just uh

4803
03:28:39,600 --> 03:28:44,399
have a toll road and operate a toll

4804
03:28:41,359 --> 03:28:48,080
road. Uh but it uh didn't turn out to be

4805
03:28:44,399 --> 03:28:53,200
that simple. And uh I'm wondering

4806
03:28:48,080 --> 03:28:55,200
listening to what is uh being described

4807
03:28:53,200 --> 03:28:56,560
and being predicted in terms of what

4808
03:28:55,200 --> 03:28:59,439
needs to be done in the future if it's

4809
03:28:56,560 --> 03:29:01,680
not really time to just cut the losses.

4810
03:28:59,439 --> 03:29:05,040
Um I hate to say that and I don't say

4811
03:29:01,680 --> 03:29:08,000
that disrespectfully or uh but I want to

4812
03:29:05,040 --> 03:29:10,239
talk about some things which are have no

4813
03:29:08,000 --> 03:29:12,640
future which are going to become

4814
03:29:10,239 --> 03:29:16,000
obsolete and the first one is the

4815
03:29:12,640 --> 03:29:19,120
internal combustion engine vehicle all

4816
03:29:16,000 --> 03:29:21,920
of them it's it's very bad technology as

4817
03:29:19,120 --> 03:29:23,840
it turns out uh we didn't know that you

4818
03:29:21,920 --> 03:29:25,760
know we thought

4819
03:29:23,840 --> 03:29:27,600
cathode ray 2 televisions were just

4820
03:29:25,760 --> 03:29:29,120
great didn't we until we got digital

4821
03:29:27,600 --> 03:29:31,439
televisions

4822
03:29:29,120 --> 03:29:33,200
Every automobile manufacturer knows that

4823
03:29:31,439 --> 03:29:35,760
there is no future for internal

4824
03:29:33,200 --> 03:29:37,920
combustion engines yet we're going

4825
03:29:35,760 --> 03:29:41,680
electric. So, the other thing that

4826
03:29:37,920 --> 03:29:44,960
there's no future for is gasoline tax.

4827
03:29:41,680 --> 03:29:47,040
And that is actually a tax. And um

4828
03:29:44,960 --> 03:29:48,560
because there's no future for that

4829
03:29:47,040 --> 03:29:54,880
because we're not going to be using

4830
03:29:48,560 --> 03:29:57,200
gasoline. Um we have to uh move to um u

4831
03:29:54,880 --> 03:29:59,600
a road use charge. And that road charge

4832
03:29:57,200 --> 03:30:01,600
has to replace the gasoline tax. We need

4833
03:29:59,600 --> 03:30:04,000
to actually get rid of the California ga

4834
03:30:01,600 --> 03:30:07,040
gasoline tax. That's the big tax. 57

4835
03:30:04,000 --> 03:30:09,680
cents a gallon. And it's it's odd to me

4836
03:30:07,040 --> 03:30:12,640
that so so many Republicans there are so

4837
03:30:09,680 --> 03:30:15,120
protax. Um the road use charge.

4838
03:30:12,640 --> 03:30:19,520
» Michael, please keep on topic. We're on

4839
03:30:15,120 --> 03:30:20,960
» Charge. Oh, I am this. This is on topic.

4840
03:30:19,520 --> 03:30:23,520
You need to cut your losses because

4841
03:30:20,960 --> 03:30:25,760
there's no future in toll roads. There's

4842
03:30:23,520 --> 03:30:26,720
no future in toll roads because we have

4843
03:30:25,760 --> 03:30:28,800
to have the road.

4844
03:30:26,720 --> 03:30:33,160
» Thank you. Your time has expired. Last

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03:30:28,800 --> 03:30:33,160
comment is phone number ending in 8813.

4846
03:30:41,760 --> 03:30:46,040
Consuel, go ahead.

4847
03:30:47,840 --> 03:30:51,120
» Oops. Okay. My my device was muted. Can

4848
03:30:50,239 --> 03:30:52,640
you hear me?

4849
03:30:51,120 --> 03:30:56,640
» Yes. Go ahead.

4850
03:30:52,640 --> 03:30:59,200
» Okay, great. Okay, so amen to um all the

4851
03:30:56,640 --> 03:31:01,040
previous concerned citizens um the

4852
03:30:59,200 --> 03:31:04,800
handful who chime in and pay attention

4853
03:31:01,040 --> 03:31:07,359
to the corruption. um and especially

4854
03:31:04,800 --> 03:31:09,600
Paul the Bold. Uh

4855
03:31:07,359 --> 03:31:13,359
uh now let's talk about this so-called

4856
03:31:09,600 --> 03:31:17,520
audit and assessment. First question is

4857
03:31:13,359 --> 03:31:19,120
Sandex seriously still using Turboax.

4858
03:31:17,520 --> 03:31:22,160
I remember hearing that back in the

4859
03:31:19,120 --> 03:31:24,800
Karata days and I thought it was a joke

4860
03:31:22,160 --> 03:31:26,880
but apparently not. This is an agency

4861
03:31:24,800 --> 03:31:31,040
handling billions of dollars in public

4862
03:31:26,880 --> 03:31:32,960
funds and um yeah, it it was just funny

4863
03:31:31,040 --> 03:31:36,640
to remember back in the day that you

4864
03:31:32,960 --> 03:31:40,000
guys used to use that software.

4865
03:31:36,640 --> 03:31:41,600
Anyways, um let's see what else. What

4866
03:31:40,000 --> 03:31:44,399
else? What else? And then you talk about

4867
03:31:41,600 --> 03:31:46,800
best practices and controls. Controls is

4868
03:31:44,399 --> 03:31:48,640
right, but in the way but not in the way

4869
03:31:46,800 --> 03:31:52,319
you pretend because nothing about this

4870
03:31:48,640 --> 03:31:54,880
audit looks uh like accountability.

4871
03:31:52,319 --> 03:31:56,880
um more rubber stamping.

4872
03:31:54,880 --> 03:31:59,520
Um

4873
03:31:56,880 --> 03:32:01,439
and uh

4874
03:31:59,520 --> 03:32:05,600
yeah, and then when the person mentioned

4875
03:32:01,439 --> 03:32:07,920
how uh what's working and not working,

4876
03:32:05,600 --> 03:32:10,319
uh let me translate that for you. What's

4877
03:32:07,920 --> 03:32:13,680
working is your roll out toward towards

4878
03:32:10,319 --> 03:32:16,399
the UN uh 2030 plans, your ability to

4879
03:32:13,680 --> 03:32:18,880
push policies the public never actually

4880
03:32:16,399 --> 03:32:20,960
agreed to, your ability to operate in

4881
03:32:18,880 --> 03:32:23,120
the shadows while telling everyone it's

4882
03:32:20,960 --> 03:32:25,600
for their own good. Uh what's not

4883
03:32:23,120 --> 03:32:27,760
working, I mean that is what was

4884
03:32:25,600 --> 03:32:29,600
working. What's not working is the fact

4885
03:32:27,760 --> 03:32:31,120
that you keep pulling the wool over the

4886
03:32:29,600 --> 03:32:34,319
public's eyes, especially the younger

4887
03:32:31,120 --> 03:32:37,200
generations who have no idea how deep

4888
03:32:34,319 --> 03:32:39,680
this manipulation runs. And then someone

4889
03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:43,760
in the presentation said, "Sandag is not

4890
03:32:39,680 --> 03:32:46,000
a one or is not a one-sizefits-all."

4891
03:32:43,760 --> 03:32:48,239
And uh really because everything you're

4892
03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:50,160
doing in this county looks exactly like

4893
03:32:48,239 --> 03:32:52,399
a one-sizefits-all

4894
03:32:50,160 --> 03:32:54,800
control system. Restrict mobility,

4895
03:32:52,399 --> 03:32:56,800
impose bike lanes. Nobody wants to push.

4896
03:32:54,800 --> 03:32:58,000
» Thank you. Your time has expired. That

4897
03:32:56,800 --> 03:32:58,800
concludes our public comment on this

4898
03:32:58,000 --> 03:33:00,720
item. Chair,

4899
03:32:58,800 --> 03:33:03,279
» Thanks. Michael Mario, did you want to

4900
03:33:00,720 --> 03:33:06,319
say a few things? Um probably just wrap

4901
03:33:03,279 --> 03:33:08,640
it up on on on making a a point of

4902
03:33:06,319 --> 03:33:10,960
clarification on certifications which

4903
03:33:08,640 --> 03:33:12,960
are extremely important for the

4904
03:33:10,960 --> 03:33:16,000
different positions but also putting

4905
03:33:12,960 --> 03:33:20,399
that much weight on all that experience

4906
03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:23,439
and uh that the employees have. Um it it

4907
03:33:20,399 --> 03:33:26,080
it's to make a a well-rounded

4908
03:33:23,439 --> 03:33:29,359
professional. It's a combination of

4909
03:33:26,080 --> 03:33:32,800
both. uh in some cases certifications

4910
03:33:29,359 --> 03:33:35,439
are extremely important others the the

4911
03:33:32,800 --> 03:33:38,640
certification as well as that experience

4912
03:33:35,439 --> 03:33:41,439
you know decades of experience and the

4913
03:33:38,640 --> 03:33:45,920
uniquenesses of the positions like I

4914
03:33:41,439 --> 03:33:49,359
tried to highlight uh that that is also

4915
03:33:45,920 --> 03:33:53,600
uh something that we put in you know a

4916
03:33:49,359 --> 03:33:56,479
lot a lot into it it's you can't put uh

4917
03:33:53,600 --> 03:33:59,680
under just one single description

4918
03:33:56,479 --> 03:34:03,439
uh uh for so many different specialties

4919
03:33:59,680 --> 03:34:07,439
that we do. Um sometimes you're required

4920
03:34:03,439 --> 03:34:11,279
to have a whole life of experience as

4921
03:34:07,439 --> 03:34:13,520
well as certifications uh sometimes. So

4922
03:34:11,279 --> 03:34:17,040
I I do want to highlight that because

4923
03:34:13,520 --> 03:34:19,760
our teams are are are very dedicated,

4924
03:34:17,040 --> 03:34:22,640
very professional, of you see and and

4925
03:34:19,760 --> 03:34:25,600
and I I want to I want to highlight that

4926
03:34:22,640 --> 03:34:27,920
because that's my job, highlighting the

4927
03:34:25,600 --> 03:34:29,359
great team that I have.

4928
03:34:27,920 --> 03:34:33,760
» Thank you. Now on to member comments.

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03:34:29,359 --> 03:34:37,200
We'll start with uh Deputy Mayor Chavez.

4930
03:34:33,760 --> 03:34:39,359
» Thank you so much. Um,

4931
03:34:37,200 --> 03:34:42,160
first of all to our independent auditor

4932
03:34:39,359 --> 03:34:44,640
team, but our staff and our leadership.

4933
03:34:42,160 --> 03:34:47,200
I know we've been talking about this for

4934
03:34:44,640 --> 03:34:49,760
over two years um since it was

4935
03:34:47,200 --> 03:34:52,720
discovered. And unfortunately, this is

4936
03:34:49,760 --> 03:34:56,720
impacting uh South County more than

4937
03:34:52,720 --> 03:34:59,680
anyone South County users. and um you

4938
03:34:56,720 --> 03:35:03,439
know Sande being uh over a billion

4939
03:34:59,680 --> 03:35:05,840
dollar in budget uh association that we

4940
03:35:03,439 --> 03:35:08,399
represent. One thing that worries me and

4941
03:35:05,840 --> 03:35:11,600
I can go to the spill of what I've

4942
03:35:08,399 --> 03:35:14,239
mentioned in many other meetings and how

4943
03:35:11,600 --> 03:35:16,720
Chila Vista the unfairness of the South

4944
03:35:14,239 --> 03:35:19,120
County people the community traffic

4945
03:35:16,720 --> 03:35:21,840
impact and the day visitors that we have

4946
03:35:19,120 --> 03:35:24,160
that are impacting the 805 and the five.

4947
03:35:21,840 --> 03:35:26,399
But I do want to mention that in pace

4948
03:35:24,160 --> 03:35:30,160
page 16

4949
03:35:26,399 --> 03:35:34,720
uh 8.4 Before

4950
03:35:30,160 --> 03:35:38,239
you mentioned um our auditor marked this

4951
03:35:34,720 --> 03:35:40,720
as a high risk for the agency and it's

4952
03:35:38,239 --> 03:35:42,800
the reliance on a single individual for

4953
03:35:40,720 --> 03:35:46,560
manual tracking combined with

4954
03:35:42,800 --> 03:35:49,279
undocumented processes and untimely

4955
03:35:46,560 --> 03:35:52,319
reconciliations increase the risk of

4956
03:35:49,279 --> 03:35:54,960
errors incomplete records non-compliance

4957
03:35:52,319 --> 03:35:56,479
and operational disruption.

4958
03:35:54,960 --> 03:35:59,520
So,

4959
03:35:56,479 --> 03:36:01,600
are we relying on a single individual to

4960
03:35:59,520 --> 03:36:06,439
process every single payment from the

4961
03:36:01,600 --> 03:36:06,439
tools or am I reading it incorrectly?

4962
03:36:07,439 --> 03:36:11,680
Because we have toll system errors to

4963
03:36:09,760 --> 03:36:14,399
this day

4964
03:36:11,680 --> 03:36:18,000
and why is it a high risk?

4965
03:36:14,399 --> 03:36:19,760
» So, uh, council member, we found there's

4966
03:36:18,000 --> 03:36:22,319
one person that is working on the

4967
03:36:19,760 --> 03:36:25,040
reconciliation part. So there's a point

4968
03:36:22,319 --> 03:36:27,840
a single point there and I know the team

4969
03:36:25,040 --> 03:36:29,680
is aware and working on putting the

4970
03:36:27,840 --> 03:36:31,680
policies and procedures and training

4971
03:36:29,680 --> 03:36:36,000
staff. So it's not one person

4972
03:36:31,680 --> 03:36:38,479
processing. It is a CPA at the toll ops

4973
03:36:36,000 --> 03:36:40,800
that is mainly responsible for the

4974
03:36:38,479 --> 03:36:44,000
reconciliation process. So that's what

4975
03:36:40,800 --> 03:36:46,880
we're identifying in the report.

4976
03:36:44,000 --> 03:36:49,200
» So when we talk about reconciliation,

4977
03:36:46,880 --> 03:36:52,319
can we be more specific? Do we still

4978
03:36:49,200 --> 03:36:55,600
have toll errors?

4979
03:36:52,319 --> 03:36:58,640
» I am going to leave that to Kimberly.

4980
03:36:55,600 --> 03:37:00,880
» I I certainly will. Let me clarify. Um

4981
03:36:58,640 --> 03:37:03,680
the one person is not processing

4982
03:37:00,880 --> 03:37:06,560
payments or individual transactions. So

4983
03:37:03,680 --> 03:37:08,160
we um on a monthly basis will pull the

4984
03:37:06,560 --> 03:37:10,319
information out of the back office

4985
03:37:08,160 --> 03:37:12,479
system so that we can populate it into

4986
03:37:10,319 --> 03:37:13,760
our accounting system. So as I said

4987
03:37:12,479 --> 03:37:15,439
because there are some system

4988
03:37:13,760 --> 03:37:17,760
limitations there's no direct

4989
03:37:15,439 --> 03:37:20,640
integration and we know that there have

4990
03:37:17,760 --> 03:37:22,720
been um issues with how the information

4991
03:37:20,640 --> 03:37:25,200
has pulled into the reports in the past

4992
03:37:22,720 --> 03:37:26,560
we have developed a process so that we

4993
03:37:25,200 --> 03:37:28,560
make sure the information that we're

4994
03:37:26,560 --> 03:37:30,239
getting is correct. So there's a couple

4995
03:37:28,560 --> 03:37:32,560
steps that have to happen in the back

4996
03:37:30,239 --> 03:37:34,239
office system and then we run the

4997
03:37:32,560 --> 03:37:36,000
reports that come out of that and then

4998
03:37:34,239 --> 03:37:38,560
the accounting entries are being booked

4999
03:37:36,000 --> 03:37:40,000
from there. So because this has been as

5000
03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:43,040
you said something we've been working

5001
03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:44,800
through for two years and um we really

5002
03:37:43,040 --> 03:37:47,680
want to make sure that it's correct and

5003
03:37:44,800 --> 03:37:50,800
accurate. we have had a our uh manager

5004
03:37:47,680 --> 03:37:52,479
in that area working on this um and as I

5005
03:37:50,800 --> 03:37:55,279
said we feel that we've got a good

5006
03:37:52,479 --> 03:37:57,439
process in place now that's reliable and

5007
03:37:55,279 --> 03:37:59,680
so we can have we can kind of spread

5008
03:37:57,439 --> 03:38:02,160
that to um the rest of the toll

5009
03:37:59,680 --> 03:38:05,040
accountant area so that it's not being

5010
03:38:02,160 --> 03:38:07,359
done by there'sn't one final person

5011
03:38:05,040 --> 03:38:08,640
doing it but it's done by various people

5012
03:38:07,359 --> 03:38:11,760
throughout the process

5013
03:38:08,640 --> 03:38:15,920
» I I think I want to add a little bit

5014
03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:19,279
again we came we stabilize device

5015
03:38:15,920 --> 03:38:23,040
and we we we we have done the

5016
03:38:19,279 --> 03:38:27,200
assessment. So the teams have set up a

5017
03:38:23,040 --> 03:38:29,600
process to adequately be doing the

5018
03:38:27,200 --> 03:38:33,120
checks and balances at the toll

5019
03:38:29,600 --> 03:38:35,359
operation center. Now is that perfect?

5020
03:38:33,120 --> 03:38:38,720
No. That's why we're going to be moving

5021
03:38:35,359 --> 03:38:40,960
into a new back office system. And we

5022
03:38:38,720 --> 03:38:44,080
have had robust discussions with this

5023
03:38:40,960 --> 03:38:47,040
board of where this organization is

5024
03:38:44,080 --> 03:38:49,680
pivoting from a new strategy of a back

5025
03:38:47,040 --> 03:38:53,439
office to make it more enhanced with

5026
03:38:49,680 --> 03:38:56,080
proven operators. So first we needed to

5027
03:38:53,439 --> 03:38:59,439
stabilize and manage the current

5028
03:38:56,080 --> 03:39:02,800
situation as we are also working this is

5029
03:38:59,439 --> 03:39:04,640
a on the financial department process.

5030
03:39:02,800 --> 03:39:07,840
I'm talking a little bit also of the

5031
03:39:04,640 --> 03:39:11,600
operations but they all come together

5032
03:39:07,840 --> 03:39:15,200
right um so we we we are working very

5033
03:39:11,600 --> 03:39:17,600
hard and the people are not being

5034
03:39:15,200 --> 03:39:21,439
mischarged I think that was your

5035
03:39:17,600 --> 03:39:23,920
question um but we are that is that

5036
03:39:21,439 --> 03:39:28,000
checks and balances that that has been

5037
03:39:23,920 --> 03:39:30,319
put out there it's was to evaluate that

5038
03:39:28,000 --> 03:39:32,960
if the system has some errors at some

5039
03:39:30,319 --> 03:39:35,840
point identify them as soon as possible

5040
03:39:32,960 --> 03:39:38,319
and reconcile them. Again, that system

5041
03:39:35,840 --> 03:39:41,760
is not perfect and that's why we're

5042
03:39:38,319 --> 03:39:43,359
pivoting to others who have done it

5043
03:39:41,760 --> 03:39:45,840
better than us.

5044
03:39:43,359 --> 03:39:48,960
» I I so appreciate these this

5045
03:39:45,840 --> 03:39:51,920
transparency. Um and it's it's my job,

5046
03:39:48,960 --> 03:39:55,760
it's our duty to represent uh who

5047
03:39:51,920 --> 03:39:57,680
elected us to this seat. And finally, um

5048
03:39:55,760 --> 03:40:01,200
what is the current estimate on that

5049
03:39:57,680 --> 03:40:04,160
transition to the new system?

5050
03:40:01,200 --> 03:40:07,760
We will be coming and providing a little

5051
03:40:04,160 --> 03:40:10,960
bit more information probably later

5052
03:40:07,760 --> 03:40:13,200
early in next year. We are evaluating

5053
03:40:10,960 --> 03:40:16,880
all the options that we have in front of

5054
03:40:13,200 --> 03:40:20,080
us. We have begun some conversations.

5055
03:40:16,880 --> 03:40:22,000
Um if you were to ask me right now I

5056
03:40:20,080 --> 03:40:24,399
foresee that a transition will be

5057
03:40:22,000 --> 03:40:28,000
happening within the next 12 to 18

5058
03:40:24,399 --> 03:40:30,000
months. It's a very sophisticated system

5059
03:40:28,000 --> 03:40:33,359
but the first thing that we needed to do

5060
03:40:30,000 --> 03:40:36,720
was shore up the existing system like I

5061
03:40:33,359 --> 03:40:40,160
said stabilize I think we have achieved

5062
03:40:36,720 --> 03:40:42,800
that is it perfect no it's not perfect

5063
03:40:40,160 --> 03:40:47,200
and that's why the team is doing so much

5064
03:40:42,800 --> 03:40:49,200
checking and and balancing um but I I'm

5065
03:40:47,200 --> 03:40:50,960
very confident that we are having an

5066
03:40:49,200 --> 03:40:54,319
appropriate operation appropriate

5067
03:40:50,960 --> 03:40:57,120
charging but we definitely need to pivot

5068
03:40:54,319 --> 03:41:00,399
to something more modern and more with

5069
03:40:57,120 --> 03:41:02,479
more confidence. And we're looking into

5070
03:41:00,399 --> 03:41:05,200
other partners, other governmental

5071
03:41:02,479 --> 03:41:07,040
agencies who have done this and who are

5072
03:41:05,200 --> 03:41:09,840
operating and seeing how we're going to

5073
03:41:07,040 --> 03:41:12,319
partner with them. Uh we will be coming

5074
03:41:09,840 --> 03:41:14,960
probably early next year with a full

5075
03:41:12,319 --> 03:41:17,760
assessment and more than anything a

5076
03:41:14,960 --> 03:41:21,439
proposal of where we're pivoting.

5077
03:41:17,760 --> 03:41:24,000
» Thank you so much. And before I stop my

5078
03:41:21,439 --> 03:41:26,080
comments, I just want to say that we

5079
03:41:24,000 --> 03:41:29,200
need to have a better conversation and

5080
03:41:26,080 --> 03:41:31,439
how we can return the services and all

5081
03:41:29,200 --> 03:41:33,840
the tools that have been paid to the

5082
03:41:31,439 --> 03:41:35,520
community eventually. That's what our

5083
03:41:33,840 --> 03:41:38,960
main purpose, right? To make a better

5084
03:41:35,520 --> 03:41:41,680
life to everyone who's using our our our

5085
03:41:38,960 --> 03:41:43,279
transportation, our roads, and just

5086
03:41:41,680 --> 03:41:45,840
living in our community. Again, thank

5087
03:41:43,279 --> 03:41:48,239
you.

5088
03:41:45,840 --> 03:41:50,479
Um, Council Member Molina.

5089
03:41:48,239 --> 03:41:54,239
» Thank you very much, Chair Heedner. Uh,

5090
03:41:50,479 --> 03:41:58,319
thank you once again to our, uh, OIPA

5091
03:41:54,239 --> 03:42:00,399
team, our team of directors. Excellent

5092
03:41:58,319 --> 03:42:02,560
presentation. Again, thank you for

5093
03:42:00,399 --> 03:42:05,359
covering my questions last week, last

5094
03:42:02,560 --> 03:42:07,040
Friday during the audit committee. Uh, I

5095
03:42:05,359 --> 03:42:11,040
I have one additional question that

5096
03:42:07,040 --> 03:42:14,080
didn't I I didn't quite ask, and it has

5097
03:42:11,040 --> 03:42:17,600
to do with the um the timeline. How far

5098
03:42:14,080 --> 03:42:21,439
back did you look in the assessment of

5099
03:42:17,600 --> 03:42:24,560
our financial um system? Uh I don't know

5100
03:42:21,439 --> 03:42:26,880
if uh that was part of the presentation

5101
03:42:24,560 --> 03:42:30,080
last Friday or today.

5102
03:42:26,880 --> 03:42:33,439
» Holly, can you go over the assessment uh

5103
03:42:30,080 --> 03:42:36,319
how you conducted the time period?

5104
03:42:33,439 --> 03:42:38,640
» Yes. So, as Courtney mentioned earlier

5105
03:42:36,319 --> 03:42:40,960
in our presentation, we really worked to

5106
03:42:38,640 --> 03:42:43,840
evaluate your processes in its most

5107
03:42:40,960 --> 03:42:46,319
current state, when we needed to, we

5108
03:42:43,840 --> 03:42:48,080
referred to periods as far back as

5109
03:42:46,319 --> 03:42:50,640
necessary to fully understand the

5110
03:42:48,080 --> 03:42:52,560
current condition. So, you know, that

5111
03:42:50,640 --> 03:42:53,760
might have been for certain processes 6

5112
03:42:52,560 --> 03:42:56,160
months back, that might have been for

5113
03:42:53,760 --> 03:42:58,560
others 18 months back. So, it's a little

5114
03:42:56,160 --> 03:43:00,319
bit dynamic, you know, in order to truly

5115
03:42:58,560 --> 03:43:01,840
dig into and understand the current

5116
03:43:00,319 --> 03:43:03,200
state.

5117
03:43:01,840 --> 03:43:05,520
Like Courtney mentioned, this is a

5118
03:43:03,200 --> 03:43:07,200
forward-looking assessment and so going

5119
03:43:05,520 --> 03:43:08,720
back years and years, you know, and

5120
03:43:07,200 --> 03:43:11,040
everything really doesn't make sense and

5121
03:43:08,720 --> 03:43:12,640
so everything that we evaluated should

5122
03:43:11,040 --> 03:43:14,160
be looked at through the lens of a

5123
03:43:12,640 --> 03:43:16,640
current state assessment.

5124
03:43:14,160 --> 03:43:18,880
» Thank you. Uh that is very helpful and I

5125
03:43:16,640 --> 03:43:20,880
think that is what helps me understand

5126
03:43:18,880 --> 03:43:22,800
the fact that this is an assessment and

5127
03:43:20,880 --> 03:43:24,800
we are looking at the current state

5128
03:43:22,800 --> 03:43:27,680
versus an audit which is you know

5129
03:43:24,800 --> 03:43:30,160
looking back and and um and checking

5130
03:43:27,680 --> 03:43:32,960
things that way. So, I I really do

5131
03:43:30,160 --> 03:43:34,960
appreciate all of the work and I I have

5132
03:43:32,960 --> 03:43:38,000
a a good understanding of the work

5133
03:43:34,960 --> 03:43:41,359
that's before us and again our team of

5134
03:43:38,000 --> 03:43:44,080
directors and our CFO um being so

5135
03:43:41,359 --> 03:43:46,960
willing to take this bull by the horn,

5136
03:43:44,080 --> 03:43:48,960
you know, and being unafraid and knowing

5137
03:43:46,960 --> 03:43:51,040
that this is where we're headed and this

5138
03:43:48,960 --> 03:43:53,040
is what we're going to do. That is the

5139
03:43:51,040 --> 03:43:55,600
attitude that really does give me a lot

5140
03:43:53,040 --> 03:43:59,040
of confidence moving forward. Um two

5141
03:43:55,600 --> 03:44:02,640
other things I want to point out. One is

5142
03:43:59,040 --> 03:44:07,359
um from our um director Pikney Forest

5143
03:44:02,640 --> 03:44:09,359
the um internal risk assessment um that

5144
03:44:07,359 --> 03:44:12,720
she previously mentioned. It was the

5145
03:44:09,359 --> 03:44:15,040
chart that had the three X's on the um

5146
03:44:12,720 --> 03:44:18,160
on the on her presentation. It

5147
03:44:15,040 --> 03:44:22,160
identifies of the seven core themes that

5148
03:44:18,160 --> 03:44:24,880
the Weaver assessment um uh discussed,

5149
03:44:22,160 --> 03:44:28,640
three of them were already identified by

5150
03:44:24,880 --> 03:44:30,720
our internal risk assessment team. Um

5151
03:44:28,640 --> 03:44:32,960
and so I really do appreciate that. I it

5152
03:44:30,720 --> 03:44:35,760
shows that we are on the same track. We

5153
03:44:32,960 --> 03:44:37,920
are on the right track. So that again

5154
03:44:35,760 --> 03:44:40,160
gives me a lot of confidence. And then

5155
03:44:37,920 --> 03:44:42,720
one other point that was made last

5156
03:44:40,160 --> 03:44:45,760
Friday during the audit committee by the

5157
03:44:42,720 --> 03:44:48,720
Weaver team um as part of the executive

5158
03:44:45,760 --> 03:44:53,279
summary in their report there was this

5159
03:44:48,720 --> 03:44:55,279
um beautiful one-page road map that had

5160
03:44:53,279 --> 03:44:58,319
um green lines across it. It was a

5161
03:44:55,279 --> 03:45:00,880
timeline essentially of how to get to

5162
03:44:58,319 --> 03:45:04,399
that what we're speaking of how to get

5163
03:45:00,880 --> 03:45:07,520
to that next phase of sandag um which

5164
03:45:04,399 --> 03:45:09,359
will inevitably be a better sandag. So,

5165
03:45:07,520 --> 03:45:12,239
um, sadly it didn't get presented today,

5166
03:45:09,359 --> 03:45:14,399
but if you do dig in, um, it's a road

5167
03:45:12,239 --> 03:45:16,880
map and they they they went through it,

5168
03:45:14,399 --> 03:45:18,399
uh, in detail last Friday, so you could

5169
03:45:16,880 --> 03:45:20,399
also view the recording there. But I

5170
03:45:18,399 --> 03:45:22,640
really did appreciate that onepage

5171
03:45:20,399 --> 03:45:26,160
recommended road map. And my final

5172
03:45:22,640 --> 03:45:30,399
comment just has to do with the um

5173
03:45:26,160 --> 03:45:34,479
entire attitude um of um not just our

5174
03:45:30,399 --> 03:45:37,359
leadership, our CEO Mario Orso um but

5175
03:45:34,479 --> 03:45:39,520
being able to work and and I'm taking

5176
03:45:37,359 --> 03:45:42,479
his words from last Friday work with

5177
03:45:39,520 --> 03:45:46,239
these independent arms which is our OPA

5178
03:45:42,479 --> 03:45:49,760
which is um the folks from Weaver. Um

5179
03:45:46,239 --> 03:45:52,479
and it is a huge strength. uh perhaps it

5180
03:45:49,760 --> 03:45:55,199
wasn't initially realized as a strength

5181
03:45:52,479 --> 03:45:58,560
you know from previous leadership um and

5182
03:45:55,199 --> 03:46:01,040
it was instead something to resist but

5183
03:45:58,560 --> 03:46:04,800
now to see that it is in fact embraced

5184
03:46:01,040 --> 03:46:07,040
by current leadership um this proverbial

5185
03:46:04,800 --> 03:46:09,920
car that we keep talking about I feel

5186
03:46:07,040 --> 03:46:12,880
not only has new tires but it also has a

5187
03:46:09,920 --> 03:46:15,040
new engine and um you know I anticipate

5188
03:46:12,880 --> 03:46:18,880
at some point it'll be driving on this

5189
03:46:15,040 --> 03:46:23,760
journey on a toll-free 125 five uh or a

5190
03:46:18,880 --> 03:46:27,040
safer 17 or 78 or or 52, you know, um or

5191
03:46:23,760 --> 03:46:28,720
or even taking the purple line. So, I

5192
03:46:27,040 --> 03:46:31,520
look forward to a lot of good things in

5193
03:46:28,720 --> 03:46:33,120
Sandag. I have a lot of confidence. Um

5194
03:46:31,520 --> 03:46:34,880
certainly, I feel good with the

5195
03:46:33,120 --> 03:46:37,120
leadership that's in place. There's a

5196
03:46:34,880 --> 03:46:40,000
lot of work to be done. That is for

5197
03:46:37,120 --> 03:46:42,160
sure. Now, we know what the work is and

5198
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:43,840
I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.

5199
03:46:42,160 --> 03:46:47,560
» Thank you, Council Member. All right,

5200
03:46:43,840 --> 03:46:47,560
we're going to go on to Mayor Mento.

5201
03:46:52,560 --> 03:46:57,359
Well, you know, it's interesting having

5202
03:46:54,720 --> 03:47:00,880
sat here for a long time and hearing all

5203
03:46:57,359 --> 03:47:04,000
about the things that uh you know, you

5204
03:47:00,880 --> 03:47:06,160
don't know what you don't know. And I

5205
03:47:04,000 --> 03:47:11,279
just need to know from the CEO, are we

5206
03:47:06,160 --> 03:47:13,600
uh uh have we enhanced the um medical um

5207
03:47:11,279 --> 03:47:15,760
you know, benefits for these folks?

5208
03:47:13,600 --> 03:47:19,760
because I know there's got to be some

5209
03:47:15,760 --> 03:47:21,840
traumatic brain injury from all the

5210
03:47:19,760 --> 03:47:24,399
repeatedly because every time you get

5211
03:47:21,840 --> 03:47:27,120
down there, tell me I'm not wrong. You

5212
03:47:24,399 --> 03:47:31,279
get into this thing and it just go can't

5213
03:47:27,120 --> 03:47:33,120
believe it one more time. And uh it the

5214
03:47:31,279 --> 03:47:35,439
reason why it's frustrating for me is

5215
03:47:33,120 --> 03:47:38,000
because I sat here for a long time and I

5216
03:47:35,439 --> 03:47:40,640
listened to reports on the budget and

5217
03:47:38,000 --> 03:47:42,800
the finance and this and that and

5218
03:47:40,640 --> 03:47:44,800
everything was just perfect. we're

5219
03:47:42,800 --> 03:47:47,520
really going along. Then we had that big

5220
03:47:44,800 --> 03:47:49,680
debacle with Marne Cox and found out

5221
03:47:47,520 --> 03:47:52,000
that not everything was being reported

5222
03:47:49,680 --> 03:47:55,439
correctly and then it just kind of like

5223
03:47:52,000 --> 03:47:58,720
a an avalanche of caving from the the

5224
03:47:55,439 --> 03:48:01,600
glaciers and to where we got uh you know

5225
03:47:58,720 --> 03:48:07,520
the last CEO who I think didn't get tell

5226
03:48:01,600 --> 03:48:10,080
us anything was true and um and so

5227
03:48:07,520 --> 03:48:13,359
I can't believe we've actually um

5228
03:48:10,080 --> 03:48:16,319
operated so well if you want to call it

5229
03:48:13,359 --> 03:48:19,359
so well over so many years uh with what

5230
03:48:16,319 --> 03:48:21,120
we had you know with um you know who was

5231
03:48:19,359 --> 03:48:25,359
the maggyver behind everything holding

5232
03:48:21,120 --> 03:48:26,880
it together. Um, but what I see is that,

5233
03:48:25,359 --> 03:48:30,640
you know, and we did talk about this

5234
03:48:26,880 --> 03:48:32,960
road map, the road map is only as good

5235
03:48:30,640 --> 03:48:34,960
as, you know, the people that are

5236
03:48:32,960 --> 03:48:37,760
driving the car because if you don't

5237
03:48:34,960 --> 03:48:40,800
follow the map, you get off the road.

5238
03:48:37,760 --> 03:48:43,920
And so from this time forward, we have

5239
03:48:40,800 --> 03:48:47,120
to make sure that every bit of it is the

5240
03:48:43,920 --> 03:48:48,880
most best up and best and updated. Uh,

5241
03:48:47,120 --> 03:48:50,640
we do this at our city all the time.

5242
03:48:48,880 --> 03:48:52,960
We're always looking to say, is there a

5243
03:48:50,640 --> 03:48:55,279
better finance program? Is there a

5244
03:48:52,960 --> 03:48:57,920
better tracking program? And and you

5245
03:48:55,279 --> 03:49:00,399
know what, the the days of using, you

5246
03:48:57,920 --> 03:49:02,479
know, an abacus for one thing to, you

5247
03:49:00,399 --> 03:49:05,040
know, figure out how much money we have

5248
03:49:02,479 --> 03:49:06,560
is long gone. However, it seems like

5249
03:49:05,040 --> 03:49:08,560
that's what we've kind of done in the

5250
03:49:06,560 --> 03:49:11,199
past. And I'm not trying to disparrage

5251
03:49:08,560 --> 03:49:12,880
anybody that's that's working here today

5252
03:49:11,199 --> 03:49:14,800
that has been working for us in the

5253
03:49:12,880 --> 03:49:16,960
past. But I think there were probably

5254
03:49:14,800 --> 03:49:19,359
some great frustrations about the not

5255
03:49:16,960 --> 03:49:21,760
ability. What I would suggest is not

5256
03:49:19,359 --> 03:49:23,840
having the ability to do your job the

5257
03:49:21,760 --> 03:49:25,359
best that you could do and just putting

5258
03:49:23,840 --> 03:49:26,880
things together that you were told to

5259
03:49:25,359 --> 03:49:29,120
put together. I don't know. I'm just

5260
03:49:26,880 --> 03:49:30,479
kind of it's conjecture, but based on

5261
03:49:29,120 --> 03:49:31,920
the fact that we're seeing all the

5262
03:49:30,479 --> 03:49:36,640
problems that have along, it had to be

5263
03:49:31,920 --> 03:49:38,960
some there somewhere. And um

5264
03:49:36,640 --> 03:49:41,359
I I just think that uh I think we're

5265
03:49:38,960 --> 03:49:44,000
heading in the right direction finally.

5266
03:49:41,359 --> 03:49:45,600
And um I just want to say to this board

5267
03:49:44,000 --> 03:49:47,279
of directors, if we if we have people

5268
03:49:45,600 --> 03:49:49,680
that aren't doing their job, we have to

5269
03:49:47,279 --> 03:49:52,160
get rid of them a lot sooner and make

5270
03:49:49,680 --> 03:49:55,520
sure that people are doing their job.

5271
03:49:52,160 --> 03:49:57,760
Not saying anything, Mario, but uh that

5272
03:49:55,520 --> 03:50:01,040
you're not doing your job, but that's

5273
03:49:57,760 --> 03:50:03,439
just things happen and we have to be

5274
03:50:01,040 --> 03:50:05,760
very uh cognizant of what's going on.

5275
03:50:03,439 --> 03:50:08,399
So, I I just wanted to vent a little bit

5276
03:50:05,760 --> 03:50:11,439
on what I see and how I feel about

5277
03:50:08,399 --> 03:50:13,199
things and where we've come from. And it

5278
03:50:11,439 --> 03:50:15,279
doesn't make me feel comfortable that

5279
03:50:13,199 --> 03:50:17,520
we've had to, you know, put these things

5280
03:50:15,279 --> 03:50:18,319
together, paper clips and chewing gum

5281
03:50:17,520 --> 03:50:21,120
all the way.

5282
03:50:18,319 --> 03:50:23,920
» So, I'm going to answer your question.

5283
03:50:21,120 --> 03:50:28,319
Who kept it together? The employees.

5284
03:50:23,920 --> 03:50:32,319
They really are a dedicated uh group. Um

5285
03:50:28,319 --> 03:50:35,439
and now the job that Courtney, myself,

5286
03:50:32,319 --> 03:50:38,800
the incoming general counsel and all of

5287
03:50:35,439 --> 03:50:42,560
us here, all of you in the board, it's

5288
03:50:38,800 --> 03:50:44,399
to bring them together, right? And to um

5289
03:50:42,560 --> 03:50:46,479
institute that change up culture,

5290
03:50:44,399 --> 03:50:48,399
breaking those stoke pipes so the

5291
03:50:46,479 --> 03:50:50,880
different groups can talk to each other

5292
03:50:48,399 --> 03:50:52,640
as well as externally with the cities

5293
03:50:50,880 --> 03:50:55,279
and then we can understand what are the

5294
03:50:52,640 --> 03:50:58,239
needs. We codify the needs. We call that

5295
03:50:55,279 --> 03:51:00,319
systems requirements for systems, but we

5296
03:50:58,239 --> 03:51:02,720
also call systems requirements for like

5297
03:51:00,319 --> 03:51:04,160
the gen the the regional plan, right?

5298
03:51:02,720 --> 03:51:05,760
Understanding what you need in your

5299
03:51:04,160 --> 03:51:08,319
city, what you need in your city, what

5300
03:51:05,760 --> 03:51:10,640
you don't want in your city, and what

5301
03:51:08,319 --> 03:51:14,479
Carolina wants for South Bay as well as

5302
03:51:10,640 --> 03:51:16,960
Paloma and on and on and on. So, so we

5303
03:51:14,479 --> 03:51:19,840
we need to bring that together and have

5304
03:51:16,960 --> 03:51:22,000
that communications. But definitely what

5305
03:51:19,840 --> 03:51:24,080
kept it moving and is keeping it moving

5306
03:51:22,000 --> 03:51:25,680
and it will keep it moving is our

5307
03:51:24,080 --> 03:51:28,680
employees. So that's where we need to

5308
03:51:25,680 --> 03:51:28,680
invest.

5309
03:51:28,800 --> 03:51:35,199
» Very good. Uh Mayor uh Jones, you're up.

5310
03:51:32,880 --> 03:51:37,680
» Thank you so much, Sher. Um I just want

5311
03:51:35,199 --> 03:51:42,800
to say thank you um for everyone uh for

5312
03:51:37,680 --> 03:51:44,560
this report. And then um I really I I

5313
03:51:42,800 --> 03:51:45,840
really want to understand when we're

5314
03:51:44,560 --> 03:51:48,080
planning on having all of the

5315
03:51:45,840 --> 03:51:50,880
infrastructure across the board. I know

5316
03:51:48,080 --> 03:51:51,840
that's a big um but but uh Shaunie had

5317
03:51:50,880 --> 03:51:53,760
talked a little bit about the

5318
03:51:51,840 --> 03:51:56,000
infrastructure so that we have

5319
03:51:53,760 --> 03:51:58,960
everything um put in place set in place

5320
03:51:56,000 --> 03:52:00,800
maybe you called it actually framework

5321
03:51:58,960 --> 03:52:03,840
the framework uh when that will be in

5322
03:52:00,800 --> 03:52:05,120
place um do we have any idea when that

5323
03:52:03,840 --> 03:52:08,560
would be

5324
03:52:05,120 --> 03:52:10,319
» So the goal excuse me the goal currently

5325
03:52:08,560 --> 03:52:13,359
is to at least have an iterative

5326
03:52:10,319 --> 03:52:15,279
document within the next six months um

5327
03:52:13,359 --> 03:52:18,000
and that document is something where

5328
03:52:15,279 --> 03:52:20,640
there's it's foundational And then based

5329
03:52:18,000 --> 03:52:23,120
on what we see when we start kind of

5330
03:52:20,640 --> 03:52:26,000
diving deeper into the recommendations,

5331
03:52:23,120 --> 03:52:29,040
we can update it accordingly. But at the

5332
03:52:26,000 --> 03:52:31,439
very least having some sort of uh draft

5333
03:52:29,040 --> 03:52:33,279
documentation or iterative document

5334
03:52:31,439 --> 03:52:35,120
within the next six months. So basically

5335
03:52:33,279 --> 03:52:37,600
summer 2026.

5336
03:52:35,120 --> 03:52:38,880
» Great. Okay. And then um just as a

5337
03:52:37,600 --> 03:52:40,960
followup on that and maybe you want to

5338
03:52:38,880 --> 03:52:43,760
answer this Mario, I'm not sure. Um,

5339
03:52:40,960 --> 03:52:46,319
when we, you know, when when we hired

5340
03:52:43,760 --> 03:52:48,239
our internal controls person, I was,

5341
03:52:46,319 --> 03:52:50,560
well, it's a little different, but kind

5342
03:52:48,239 --> 03:52:53,199
of the same. Uh, we are getting a

5343
03:52:50,560 --> 03:52:55,040
six-month check-in, um, update uh, back

5344
03:52:53,199 --> 03:52:56,560
to the board. Do we have that scheduled?

5345
03:52:55,040 --> 03:53:00,960
I think we talked about it, but I don't

5346
03:52:56,560 --> 03:53:03,199
recall uh, what that was going to be.

5347
03:53:00,960 --> 03:53:05,120
» We can current we can certainly uh,

5348
03:53:03,199 --> 03:53:07,920
place something on the calendar for

5349
03:53:05,120 --> 03:53:10,479
review. Uh currently right now the idea

5350
03:53:07,920 --> 03:53:13,279
is to um try to come back to the

5351
03:53:10,479 --> 03:53:15,840
committee um at the very earliest uh

5352
03:53:13,279 --> 03:53:18,720
February um probably at the very latest

5353
03:53:15,840 --> 03:53:21,840
March but to get you some updates in

5354
03:53:18,720 --> 03:53:24,479
terms of where we are uh regarding our

5355
03:53:21,840 --> 03:53:26,560
uh recommendation implementation

5356
03:53:24,479 --> 03:53:28,960
um and then the frameworks would be a

5357
03:53:26,560 --> 03:53:30,399
part of that uh review or update.

5358
03:53:28,960 --> 03:53:33,120
» Is that going to be the audit committee

5359
03:53:30,399 --> 03:53:33,680
or the full board or both? I'm both

5360
03:53:33,120 --> 03:53:35,439
» Both.

5361
03:53:33,680 --> 03:53:37,040
» Okay, perfect. Great. And we're also

5362
03:53:35,439 --> 03:53:39,600
going to be coming with multiple

5363
03:53:37,040 --> 03:53:41,760
assessments. Grace eventually together

5364
03:53:39,600 --> 03:53:44,239
with the team will come in with a data

5365
03:53:41,760 --> 03:53:46,080
governance assessment and where we are

5366
03:53:44,239 --> 03:53:48,720
with all our different systems and where

5367
03:53:46,080 --> 03:53:51,520
we need to do. We continue to assess.

5368
03:53:48,720 --> 03:53:54,000
Courtney keeps helping us. I have a lot

5369
03:53:51,520 --> 03:53:57,279
of a lot of conversations with her of

5370
03:53:54,000 --> 03:54:00,239
where how we bring everything together.

5371
03:53:57,279 --> 03:54:02,880
uh and we'll be reporting in as timely

5372
03:54:00,239 --> 03:54:06,479
as we can to let you know where we are,

5373
03:54:02,880 --> 03:54:08,640
but also uh tell us if we need to pivot,

5374
03:54:06,479 --> 03:54:11,120
right? That's part of the new roles or

5375
03:54:08,640 --> 03:54:12,640
the enhanced roles of the executive

5376
03:54:11,120 --> 03:54:15,120
committee. So, you're going to be seeing

5377
03:54:12,640 --> 03:54:18,000
us coming more and talking about how to

5378
03:54:15,120 --> 03:54:20,080
manage the agency and asking for your

5379
03:54:18,000 --> 03:54:21,680
your opinions and your advice and

5380
03:54:20,080 --> 03:54:23,600
guidance on that.

5381
03:54:21,680 --> 03:54:24,960
» Great. because this is really important

5382
03:54:23,600 --> 03:54:27,840
work because it's building the

5383
03:54:24,960 --> 03:54:30,560
foundation of us being trusted again. Um

5384
03:54:27,840 --> 03:54:33,279
so um and and again thank you uh for all

5385
03:54:30,560 --> 03:54:35,199
of your input um all of our staff. One

5386
03:54:33,279 --> 03:54:38,000
last thing when you were talking about

5387
03:54:35,199 --> 03:54:41,199
Mario um infrastructure as far as the

5388
03:54:38,000 --> 03:54:42,960
toll itself goes the the toll road and

5389
03:54:41,199 --> 03:54:45,520
then the infrastructure that other

5390
03:54:42,960 --> 03:54:48,080
agencies public agencies have in place.

5391
03:54:45,520 --> 03:54:50,080
I think that's a prudent step because we

5392
03:54:48,080 --> 03:54:51,279
don't need to reinvent the wheel if if

5393
03:54:50,080 --> 03:54:53,760
there's something that's actually

5394
03:54:51,279 --> 03:54:57,439
working because the oneoff situation

5395
03:54:53,760 --> 03:54:58,640
that we were in is just not um we we

5396
03:54:57,439 --> 03:55:00,160
know I mean I don't want to beat the

5397
03:54:58,640 --> 03:55:03,120
dead horse. We just we can't go down

5398
03:55:00,160 --> 03:55:05,279
that road again. So anyway, thank you.

5399
03:55:03,120 --> 03:55:08,000
» Thank you, Mayor Alers.

5400
03:55:05,279 --> 03:55:10,640
» Yeah, thank you. Um the I really

5401
03:55:08,000 --> 03:55:13,600
appreciate the Weaver analysis. This is

5402
03:55:10,640 --> 03:55:15,760
as broad and comprehensive of a set of

5403
03:55:13,600 --> 03:55:18,640
recommendations as I've seen in a long

5404
03:55:15,760 --> 03:55:21,120
time. I really support them. I love the

5405
03:55:18,640 --> 03:55:22,800
detail you went into. Uh I want to talk

5406
03:55:21,120 --> 03:55:24,640
a little bit about the roles. Of course,

5407
03:55:22,800 --> 03:55:26,800
you've got the in independent auditor

5408
03:55:24,640 --> 03:55:29,279
and I always think of the director of

5409
03:55:26,800 --> 03:55:31,600
controls as being the internal architect

5410
03:55:29,279 --> 03:55:34,479
of the reporting structure, but not the

5411
03:55:31,600 --> 03:55:36,080
operational person. The operations, the

5412
03:55:34,479 --> 03:55:38,160
implementation of this will all fall

5413
03:55:36,080 --> 03:55:40,800
upon the people to the right here. the

5414
03:55:38,160 --> 03:55:43,840
actual operation. I I appreciate the

5415
03:55:40,800 --> 03:55:46,399
fact that uh the internal uh auditor is

5416
03:55:43,840 --> 03:55:49,120
relatively new and the internal controls

5417
03:55:46,399 --> 03:55:51,760
director is relatively new. I that tells

5418
03:55:49,120 --> 03:55:54,399
me the uh sheriff so to speak coming

5419
03:55:51,760 --> 03:55:57,359
into town and the internal sheriff are

5420
03:55:54,399 --> 03:56:00,479
are fresh eyes and then bringing Weaver

5421
03:55:57,359 --> 03:56:03,760
in was a very good move. Uh, so I've

5422
03:56:00,479 --> 03:56:06,399
worked on a lot of uh on several ERP

5423
03:56:03,760 --> 03:56:08,720
implementations in my career and they're

5424
03:56:06,399 --> 03:56:10,160
always fun. I don't know, they're

5425
03:56:08,720 --> 03:56:12,640
they're difficult, right? I think

5426
03:56:10,160 --> 03:56:16,000
anybody that's done them, they uh they

5427
03:56:12,640 --> 03:56:19,359
cross over between software and IT

5428
03:56:16,000 --> 03:56:22,479
versus the operations side, be it uh be

5429
03:56:19,359 --> 03:56:26,080
it uh finance, accounting,

5430
03:56:22,479 --> 03:56:27,680
toll collection, all that. And so I

5431
03:56:26,080 --> 03:56:29,600
thought the the the one I'm going to

5432
03:56:27,680 --> 03:56:34,000
pick on one select recommendation that

5433
03:56:29,600 --> 03:56:37,920
was about a uh a status of a CIO. I

5434
03:56:34,000 --> 03:56:40,640
really support getting that CIO in place

5435
03:56:37,920 --> 03:56:44,880
and I don't know if Mario you have any

5436
03:56:40,640 --> 03:56:47,760
comments on where we are on that.

5437
03:56:44,880 --> 03:56:49,680
First of all, you know, and I I have had

5438
03:56:47,760 --> 03:56:53,600
a lot of discussions even with Cornney

5439
03:56:49,680 --> 03:56:56,640
about this and for an organization of

5440
03:56:53,600 --> 03:56:58,800
our size, 400 people, you know, we and

5441
03:56:56,640 --> 03:57:03,680
for all the roles and responsibilities

5442
03:56:58,800 --> 03:57:06,479
that we have our our our CIO, it's very

5443
03:57:03,680 --> 03:57:10,000
important, but we need somebody far

5444
03:57:06,479 --> 03:57:12,239
beyond just a CIO. we due to the

5445
03:57:10,000 --> 03:57:16,080
activity based model runs that we're

5446
03:57:12,239 --> 03:57:20,560
doing the data analysis. So actually

5447
03:57:16,080 --> 03:57:23,439
grace is fills part of that role the IT

5448
03:57:20,560 --> 03:57:26,960
person we we had one and we lost it to

5449
03:57:23,439 --> 03:57:30,560
private industry. Um we are putting that

5450
03:57:26,960 --> 03:57:33,600
advertising out right now but Grace is

5451
03:57:30,560 --> 03:57:36,319
my point person for data and

5452
03:57:33,600 --> 03:57:39,680
intelligence and and information

5453
03:57:36,319 --> 03:57:43,359
systems. We will be evaluating if that's

5454
03:57:39,680 --> 03:57:45,199
working and but it's very hard to have a

5455
03:57:43,359 --> 03:57:47,359
chief data officer, a chief

5456
03:57:45,199 --> 03:57:49,840
informationational officer. So

5457
03:57:47,359 --> 03:57:52,560
therefore, we have consolidated based on

5458
03:57:49,840 --> 03:57:54,560
some new models that are coming up and

5459
03:57:52,560 --> 03:57:59,120
seeing how that works. We are

5460
03:57:54,560 --> 03:58:01,760
advertising for a an an it

5461
03:57:59,120 --> 03:58:04,239
put out that hopefully we can keep them

5462
03:58:01,760 --> 03:58:06,720
longer than what we kept the prior one.

5463
03:58:04,239 --> 03:58:09,120
Uh industry went very hard on us. We had

5464
03:58:06,720 --> 03:58:13,920
some very a very good person who had

5465
03:58:09,120 --> 03:58:17,520
come from Radian and and and they they

5466
03:58:13,920 --> 03:58:20,880
poached him back. Uh so we we will be

5467
03:58:17,520 --> 03:58:24,640
putting that out. But definitely IT

5468
03:58:20,880 --> 03:58:26,239
security system is an issue um that we

5469
03:58:24,640 --> 03:58:28,560
take very serious and we've been

5470
03:58:26,239 --> 03:58:32,960
focusing on that. our cloud security

5471
03:58:28,560 --> 03:58:35,040
also our operations I'm seeing again

5472
03:58:32,960 --> 03:58:38,960
highlighting all the multiple activities

5473
03:58:35,040 --> 03:58:41,520
that we're doing a one size uh one model

5474
03:58:38,960 --> 03:58:43,520
doesn't fit all for for the toll

5475
03:58:41,520 --> 03:58:46,720
operations we will that's why we're

5476
03:58:43,520 --> 03:58:49,680
looking into what others are doing and

5477
03:58:46,720 --> 03:58:52,800
maybe rely more on operations with some

5478
03:58:49,680 --> 03:58:54,880
of our other partner agencies I know I'm

5479
03:58:52,800 --> 03:58:58,080
pivoting a little bit outside but but

5480
03:58:54,880 --> 03:59:00,399
but that also affects our IT structures,

5481
03:58:58,080 --> 03:59:03,359
right? So, we're looking in kind of

5482
03:59:00,399 --> 03:59:05,680
combining multiple things of being

5483
03:59:03,359 --> 03:59:09,199
strong from an IT perspective

5484
03:59:05,680 --> 03:59:11,439
internally, but also relying with others

5485
03:59:09,199 --> 03:59:13,439
that have done other things better so

5486
03:59:11,439 --> 03:59:15,680
they can do those specialty items and

5487
03:59:13,439 --> 03:59:17,760
they can also take care of that IT

5488
03:59:15,680 --> 03:59:21,120
security and efficiency.

5489
03:59:17,760 --> 03:59:22,800
» Okay. So um I think key in what you've

5490
03:59:21,120 --> 03:59:26,000
said is that you're putting together an

5491
03:59:22,800 --> 03:59:28,239
organization that will manage the ERP

5492
03:59:26,000 --> 03:59:31,439
implementation and and the overall IT

5493
03:59:28,239 --> 03:59:34,160
data science strategy and that requires

5494
03:59:31,439 --> 03:59:38,720
a a very strong leader in that role with

5495
03:59:34,160 --> 03:59:41,840
both operational experience and in IT

5496
03:59:38,720 --> 03:59:43,760
understanding at the same time. I I and

5497
03:59:41,840 --> 03:59:46,720
then I did hear earlier I thought I

5498
03:59:43,760 --> 03:59:48,560
heard that you're hiring a uh ERP

5499
03:59:46,720 --> 03:59:50,640
expert, an outside consultant.

5500
03:59:48,560 --> 03:59:52,640
Absolutely. I I don't think I've ever

5501
03:59:50,640 --> 03:59:55,199
done an ERP implementation without

5502
03:59:52,640 --> 03:59:57,199
having somebody who is a nuts andbolts

5503
03:59:55,199 --> 03:59:59,279
expert. They make all the difference in

5504
03:59:57,199 --> 04:00:02,080
the world. I I I guess what I'm looking

5505
03:59:59,279 --> 04:00:04,160
for is an update in the future. I think

5506
04:00:02,080 --> 04:00:08,080
along the lines of what Mayor Jones was

5507
04:00:04,160 --> 04:00:10,239
asking for. I would say quarterly. I

5508
04:00:08,080 --> 04:00:12,479
would say quarterly timed with the

5509
04:00:10,239 --> 04:00:14,000
internal auditor report. I would like to

5510
04:00:12,479 --> 04:00:16,239
see it to the full board, but I'd like

5511
04:00:14,000 --> 04:00:18,640
to see it go down to the level of what

5512
04:00:16,239 --> 04:00:20,880
Weaver is is describing at the at the

5513
04:00:18,640 --> 04:00:22,720
high level initiatives. I certainly

5514
04:00:20,880 --> 04:00:25,040
first in the first review would like to

5515
04:00:22,720 --> 04:00:28,319
hear about the organizational changes or

5516
04:00:25,040 --> 04:00:31,520
updates or additions such as and status

5517
04:00:28,319 --> 04:00:35,840
of hiring uh whatever expert, ERP

5518
04:00:31,520 --> 04:00:38,399
expert, uh IT CIO, whatever it might be.

5519
04:00:35,840 --> 04:00:40,479
uh because I I think it's the people as

5520
04:00:38,399 --> 04:00:42,319
as has been correctly identified here at

5521
04:00:40,479 --> 04:00:44,640
all times. It's always the people that

5522
04:00:42,319 --> 04:00:47,439
make things happen and that's the first

5523
04:00:44,640 --> 04:00:50,080
phase. Get your organization straight. I

5524
04:00:47,439 --> 04:00:51,680
think that there are many more areas I

5525
04:00:50,080 --> 04:00:54,960
could spend time going into, but I think

5526
04:00:51,680 --> 04:00:56,880
the IT1 and the ERP one is key. Tyler

5527
04:00:54,960 --> 04:00:58,880
Technologies, they've got their act

5528
04:00:56,880 --> 04:01:00,560
together. If we get on board with that

5529
04:00:58,880 --> 04:01:02,960
and can integrate our systems with

5530
04:01:00,560 --> 04:01:04,720
Tyler, we you will be orders of

5531
04:01:02,960 --> 04:01:07,520
magnitude above where you've been. The

5532
04:01:04,720 --> 04:01:10,720
trouble is we've done too much glue by

5533
04:01:07,520 --> 04:01:14,319
by people and spreadsheets and and that

5534
04:01:10,720 --> 04:01:16,800
is destined to failure or

5535
04:01:14,319 --> 04:01:18,080
potentially corruption, whatever. And I

5536
04:01:16,800 --> 04:01:21,520
think we've been down that path. We want

5537
04:01:18,080 --> 04:01:23,040
to stop and and get on a path to

5538
04:01:21,520 --> 04:01:24,399
solution, which we are. I think we're

5539
04:01:23,040 --> 04:01:26,560
headed down there. So, I'm looking

5540
04:01:24,399 --> 04:01:27,680
forward to quarterly updates if others

5541
04:01:26,560 --> 04:01:29,520
agree with me. Thank you.

5542
04:01:27,680 --> 04:01:31,279
» Yeah, for sure. And we're we're also

5543
04:01:29,520 --> 04:01:34,319
going to be bringing the updates of the

5544
04:01:31,279 --> 04:01:37,760
different assessments HR

5545
04:01:34,319 --> 04:01:39,760
um the one that Grace is planning for IT

5546
04:01:37,760 --> 04:01:42,080
um the the one that we're doing for

5547
04:01:39,760 --> 04:01:44,399
tollaps because at the end of the day

5548
04:01:42,080 --> 04:01:47,680
everything glues together of course the

5549
04:01:44,399 --> 04:01:50,960
same follow the money right we need to

5550
04:01:47,680 --> 04:01:54,239
keep glue it with finance interest of

5551
04:01:50,960 --> 04:01:56,399
time I was only picking on on it and ERP

5552
04:01:54,239 --> 04:01:58,080
is probably one of the biggest ones but

5553
04:01:56,399 --> 04:01:59,920
huge I could have gone into many other

5554
04:01:58,080 --> 04:02:02,319
areas. I I won't do that today because I

5555
04:01:59,920 --> 04:02:04,960
think others have done that.

5556
04:02:02,319 --> 04:02:07,439
» Okay. I should have

5557
04:02:04,960 --> 04:02:10,080
» A brief comment. Thank you very much.

5558
04:02:07,439 --> 04:02:12,640
» So I just wanted to address um two

5559
04:02:10,080 --> 04:02:15,040
things. So one when you talk about the

5560
04:02:12,640 --> 04:02:17,279
role of the IPA and the role of the

5561
04:02:15,040 --> 04:02:19,600
director of internal controls. So the

5562
04:02:17,279 --> 04:02:21,439
model is that there's three lines of

5563
04:02:19,600 --> 04:02:24,080
defense for governance and risk

5564
04:02:21,439 --> 04:02:27,199
management. That's how it comes from the

5565
04:02:24,080 --> 04:02:29,439
IIA. So for and you could even say

5566
04:02:27,199 --> 04:02:31,439
people would consider the IPA a fourth

5567
04:02:29,439 --> 04:02:34,080
line because of the independence. We're

5568
04:02:31,439 --> 04:02:36,000
not an internal internal audit function.

5569
04:02:34,080 --> 04:02:38,160
Typically internal audit is a third line

5570
04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:40,880
of defense. So you have management who

5571
04:02:38,160 --> 04:02:42,720
does the operations. You have the

5572
04:02:40,880 --> 04:02:44,880
director of internal controls depending

5573
04:02:42,720 --> 04:02:47,279
on how you address it is doing the

5574
04:02:44,880 --> 04:02:48,960
monitoring and then you have internal

5575
04:02:47,279 --> 04:02:51,279
audit and then you have independent or

5576
04:02:48,960 --> 04:02:52,800
external audit. So those are your lines

5577
04:02:51,279 --> 04:02:54,560
of defense when it comes to government

5578
04:02:52,800 --> 04:02:57,040
and risk management. And it's really

5579
04:02:54,560 --> 04:03:00,239
important that in order to give you all

5580
04:02:57,040 --> 04:03:02,800
the assurance that that is occurring. We

5581
04:03:00,239 --> 04:03:05,840
were clear in the recommendations for

5582
04:03:02,800 --> 04:03:08,720
the internal control framework that it

5583
04:03:05,840 --> 04:03:11,359
be done. Um we recommended because of

5584
04:03:08,720 --> 04:03:15,439
the bandwidth from an external party and

5585
04:03:11,359 --> 04:03:17,279
then monitored um by the internal the

5586
04:03:15,439 --> 04:03:19,920
director of internal controls because

5587
04:03:17,279 --> 04:03:23,279
you want that compliance you know to

5588
04:03:19,920 --> 04:03:25,199
ensure that before so before we come in

5589
04:03:23,279 --> 04:03:27,840
and spot issues that issues are being

5590
04:03:25,199 --> 04:03:29,600
managed internally that is the model so

5591
04:03:27,840 --> 04:03:33,359
I just put that out there for

5592
04:03:29,600 --> 04:03:35,760
information purposes for the CIO and as

5593
04:03:33,359 --> 04:03:38,640
Mario said we've had conversations and

5594
04:03:35,760 --> 04:03:41,920
the recommendation and in the report is

5595
04:03:38,640 --> 04:03:46,239
for executive level CIO and I know he is

5596
04:03:41,920 --> 04:03:48,800
working to determine um how as has he

5597
04:03:46,239 --> 04:03:50,640
expressed um but I just want to stay

5598
04:03:48,800 --> 04:03:52,960
true to the recommendations that we put

5599
04:03:50,640 --> 04:03:54,560
forth so thank you chair

5600
04:03:52,960 --> 04:03:57,040
» Great thank you and thank you to all of

5601
04:03:54,560 --> 04:04:00,000
you Courtney and Weaver it's it's

5602
04:03:57,040 --> 04:04:02,160
excellent work I mean I can't imagine

5603
04:04:00,000 --> 04:04:03,680
the detail and how you find out all of

5604
04:04:02,160 --> 04:04:06,319
these things the number of questions you

5605
04:04:03,680 --> 04:04:08,160
must ask and and our team for, you know,

5606
04:04:06,319 --> 04:04:10,000
responding and working well with them.

5607
04:04:08,160 --> 04:04:11,920
And thank you for looking at all of

5608
04:04:10,000 --> 04:04:13,120
these, I guess, corrective actions.

5609
04:04:11,920 --> 04:04:15,359
You're going to be really, really,

5610
04:04:13,120 --> 04:04:17,680
really busy, not only creating this

5611
04:04:15,359 --> 04:04:19,359
foundation or framework, but then doing

5612
04:04:17,680 --> 04:04:21,359
the work that's going to go into all of

5613
04:04:19,359 --> 04:04:23,520
that just to keep this agency running

5614
04:04:21,359 --> 04:04:25,439
and the myriad ways that it runs as as

5615
04:04:23,520 --> 04:04:26,960
Mario outlined. So, thank you so much

5616
04:04:25,439 --> 04:04:28,880
for all of this. Um, there's just

5617
04:04:26,960 --> 04:04:31,040
discussion on this. There's no action.

5618
04:04:28,880 --> 04:04:33,439
And so we will now move to the revised

5619
04:04:31,040 --> 04:04:37,560
position classification and salary range

5620
04:04:33,439 --> 04:04:37,560
table with Josh.

5621
04:05:11,120 --> 04:05:14,720
Good afternoon. Uh, my name is Joshua

5622
04:05:12,800 --> 04:05:17,040
Goldter and I serve as SANDAG's director

5623
04:05:14,720 --> 04:05:19,520
of human resources and I will be

5624
04:05:17,040 --> 04:05:22,080
presenting recommendation or recommended

5625
04:05:19,520 --> 04:05:25,279
revisions to the FY 2026 position

5626
04:05:22,080 --> 04:05:26,960
classification and salary range table. I

5627
04:05:25,279 --> 04:05:28,720
do want to point out this item was

5628
04:05:26,960 --> 04:05:30,160
updated yesterday and you can see the

5629
04:05:28,720 --> 04:05:32,239
current version online. And you will

5630
04:05:30,160 --> 04:05:35,680
find the summary of changes in

5631
04:05:32,239 --> 04:05:37,840
attachment one and the red line table in

5632
04:05:35,680 --> 04:05:39,760
attachment two.

5633
04:05:37,840 --> 04:05:42,720
At a high level, the recommended changes

5634
04:05:39,760 --> 04:05:45,120
are relocating the associate capital

5635
04:05:42,720 --> 04:05:47,199
project manager 2 to strengthen the

5636
04:05:45,120 --> 04:05:49,520
mobility within the new capital delivery

5637
04:05:47,199 --> 04:05:51,120
project management career ladder. The

5638
04:05:49,520 --> 04:05:53,040
recommendation is to relocate the

5639
04:05:51,120 --> 04:05:55,840
classification as the current placement

5640
04:05:53,040 --> 04:05:57,680
limits hiring, transfer, and promotional

5641
04:05:55,840 --> 04:06:00,880
pathways from related career tracks

5642
04:05:57,680 --> 04:06:00,880
within the agency.

5643
04:06:01,120 --> 04:06:05,920
Second, relocating deputy director to

5644
04:06:04,239 --> 04:06:08,000
establish appropriate differential from

5645
04:06:05,920 --> 04:06:10,399
director reports. And as part of a

5646
04:06:08,000 --> 04:06:13,520
strategy to consolidate director 1 and

5647
04:06:10,399 --> 04:06:15,359
director 2 into one classification, the

5648
04:06:13,520 --> 04:06:19,840
agency is recommending relocating the

5649
04:06:15,359 --> 04:06:22,080
position from class range 130 to 131.

5650
04:06:19,840 --> 04:06:23,600
Also relocating deputy general counsel

5651
04:06:22,080 --> 04:06:25,279
classification.

5652
04:06:23,600 --> 04:06:26,960
The agency reviewed the deputy general

5653
04:06:25,279 --> 04:06:29,520
counsel role and found the positions,

5654
04:06:26,960 --> 04:06:32,160
responsibilities, complexity of work and

5655
04:06:29,520 --> 04:06:35,199
agencywide impact are consistent with

5656
04:06:32,160 --> 04:06:37,279
director level work. To maintain

5657
04:06:35,199 --> 04:06:39,520
consistency across leadership roles,

5658
04:06:37,279 --> 04:06:44,160
reclassifying the position from class

5659
04:06:39,520 --> 04:06:46,319
range 133 to 135 is recommended.

5660
04:06:44,160 --> 04:06:48,479
Fourth, relocating deputy independent

5661
04:06:46,319 --> 04:06:50,640
performance auditor. This classification

5662
04:06:48,479 --> 04:06:54,319
is recommended for a salary reallocation

5663
04:06:50,640 --> 04:06:56,160
from class 131 to 135 to maintain

5664
04:06:54,319 --> 04:06:57,680
current alignment with newly proposed

5665
04:06:56,160 --> 04:07:00,560
salary relocations for similar

5666
04:06:57,680 --> 04:07:02,560
classifications.

5667
04:07:00,560 --> 04:07:05,279
Uh streamlining the director level

5668
04:07:02,560 --> 04:07:07,279
structure to simplify and modernize the

5669
04:07:05,279 --> 04:07:09,439
classification system. We recommend

5670
04:07:07,279 --> 04:07:12,000
moving the current four tier director

5671
04:07:09,439 --> 04:07:14,080
structure to three levels which would be

5672
04:07:12,000 --> 04:07:15,680
deputy director, director, and senior

5673
04:07:14,080 --> 04:07:17,359
director.

5674
04:07:15,680 --> 04:07:19,680
The agency would no longer hire or

5675
04:07:17,359 --> 04:07:21,279
promote into director one or director 2

5676
04:07:19,680 --> 04:07:23,199
classifications.

5677
04:07:21,279 --> 04:07:25,600
These and these classifications would be

5678
04:07:23,199 --> 04:07:27,680
removed from the salary range table once

5679
04:07:25,600 --> 04:07:29,120
uh they are vacated. Essentially no

5680
04:07:27,680 --> 04:07:30,960
employees in that those specific

5681
04:07:29,120 --> 04:07:33,120
classifications.

5682
04:07:30,960 --> 04:07:36,319
A consolidated director classification

5683
04:07:33,120 --> 04:07:37,920
is proposed for class range 135 based on

5684
04:07:36,319 --> 04:07:40,800
scope and appropriate promotional

5685
04:07:37,920 --> 04:07:42,399
differentials.

5686
04:07:40,800 --> 04:07:44,000
Elimination of the chief of staff

5687
04:07:42,399 --> 04:07:45,680
classification.

5688
04:07:44,000 --> 04:07:47,680
This classification is recommended to be

5689
04:07:45,680 --> 04:07:49,840
removed for elimination as it no longer

5690
04:07:47,680 --> 04:07:52,399
aligns with the operational needs or the

5691
04:07:49,840 --> 04:07:54,080
strategic direction of the agency. The

5692
04:07:52,399 --> 04:07:55,359
classification has no current incumbents

5693
04:07:54,080 --> 04:07:57,520
and is no longer part of the

5694
04:07:55,359 --> 04:07:59,040
organizational structure.

5695
04:07:57,520 --> 04:08:00,880
And lastly, the placement of the

5696
04:07:59,040 --> 04:08:03,120
independent performance auditor position

5697
04:08:00,880 --> 04:08:05,520
classification on the salary range table

5698
04:08:03,120 --> 04:08:07,040
will be evaluated and recommendations

5699
04:08:05,520 --> 04:08:09,600
will be presented to the audit committee

5700
04:08:07,040 --> 04:08:11,279
and board of directors.

5701
04:08:09,600 --> 04:08:14,319
These updates maintain the board

5702
04:08:11,279 --> 04:08:16,479
approved FY2026 salary ranges while

5703
04:08:14,319 --> 04:08:18,399
improving internal mobility, simplifying

5704
04:08:16,479 --> 04:08:20,720
our structures and supporting our

5705
04:08:18,399 --> 04:08:22,640
operational strategy. With that, I can

5706
04:08:20,720 --> 04:08:24,000
take any questions you may have.

5707
04:08:22,640 --> 04:08:25,199
» Thanks, Jos. We'll first take public

5708
04:08:24,000 --> 04:08:26,800
comments and then we'll go to the board

5709
04:08:25,199 --> 04:08:28,080
member for questions and discussions.

5710
04:08:26,800 --> 04:08:32,080
Michael?

5711
04:08:28,080 --> 04:08:35,560
» Yes, we have two in person. That's truth

5712
04:08:32,080 --> 04:08:35,560
followed by Caesar.

5713
04:08:37,359 --> 04:08:41,760
How many people actually want to be

5714
04:08:38,720 --> 04:08:43,840
here? I don't. When do you

5715
04:08:41,760 --> 04:08:45,520
He does because you're crazy. When do

5716
04:08:43,840 --> 04:08:48,239
you present an item to the public about

5717
04:08:45,520 --> 04:08:49,600
class ranges? You need a to include a

5718
04:08:48,239 --> 04:08:51,279
clear explanation about what the

5719
04:08:49,600 --> 04:08:53,359
differences actually are so I don't

5720
04:08:51,279 --> 04:08:54,800
continue to fall asleep. I don't care if

5721
04:08:53,359 --> 04:08:56,640
it's at the bottom of the page as an

5722
04:08:54,800 --> 04:08:58,640
asterk with information just needs to be

5723
04:08:56,640 --> 04:09:01,199
defined. I'm glad the two directors

5724
04:08:58,640 --> 04:09:03,840
roles costing $228,000 and the chief of

5725
04:09:01,199 --> 04:09:06,080
staff role costing $278,000 will be

5726
04:09:03,840 --> 04:09:07,439
eliminated. Uh, it's totally wasteful

5727
04:09:06,080 --> 04:09:09,600
for us to be paying for somebody's

5728
04:09:07,439 --> 04:09:11,840
coffee servers, binder deliverers,

5729
04:09:09,600 --> 04:09:13,840
speech writers, and parking validators

5730
04:09:11,840 --> 04:09:15,760
like every county supervisor does with

5731
04:09:13,840 --> 04:09:18,239
our money. But I'd like somebody to

5732
04:09:15,760 --> 04:09:20,720
explain and justify why why a CEO should

5733
04:09:18,239 --> 04:09:22,560
be paid almost $500,000 a year at the

5734
04:09:20,720 --> 04:09:24,800
maximum. How was that an appropriate

5735
04:09:22,560 --> 04:09:27,199
paycheck for a quasi public service

5736
04:09:24,800 --> 04:09:29,600
role? And I'm not referring to Mario,

5737
04:09:27,199 --> 04:09:31,600
but there have been a number of Santa

5738
04:09:29,600 --> 04:09:33,359
staffers that have made major flubs the

5739
04:09:31,600 --> 04:09:34,880
last few years and even this year. And

5740
04:09:33,359 --> 04:09:38,319
yet some are making anywhere from

5741
04:09:34,880 --> 04:09:40,000
$110,000 up to $338,000.

5742
04:09:38,319 --> 04:09:43,439
There needs to be matching pay

5743
04:09:40,000 --> 04:09:44,560
reductions for major mistakes. And Sand

5744
04:09:43,439 --> 04:09:45,760
may technically be a blatant

5745
04:09:44,560 --> 04:09:47,680
corporation, but if there's going to be

5746
04:09:45,760 --> 04:09:49,600
an appear appearance of it being a

5747
04:09:47,680 --> 04:09:51,439
public agency and it is funded with our

5748
04:09:49,600 --> 04:09:54,080
tax dollars and some of you are actually

5749
04:09:51,439 --> 04:09:55,680
elected by somebody or maybe not, uh

5750
04:09:54,080 --> 04:09:58,720
that that means every penny of our money

5751
04:09:55,680 --> 04:10:00,399
needs to be handled like it's gold. Take

5752
04:09:58,720 --> 04:10:01,920
this job seriously in the quality of

5753
04:10:00,399 --> 04:10:03,359
your work. earn your paycheck and you

5754
04:10:01,920 --> 04:10:05,600
should be treated well and be able to

5755
04:10:03,359 --> 04:10:07,680
have fun doing it. Uh, three great

5756
04:10:05,600 --> 04:10:09,920
examples I've seen, uh, Michael,

5757
04:10:07,680 --> 04:10:12,399
Francesca, and Ariana. All very helpful

5758
04:10:09,920 --> 04:10:14,000
and reliable people at the back. Uh,

5759
04:10:12,399 --> 04:10:16,479
even for Mario, I can say that he's able

5760
04:10:14,000 --> 04:10:19,279
to somewhat have fun, get answers, and

5761
04:10:16,479 --> 04:10:20,720
get the work done. Should have more fun.

5762
04:10:19,279 --> 04:10:22,960
When people leave, you can I think

5763
04:10:20,720 --> 04:10:24,640
you're allowed to have more fun. Uh, now

5764
04:10:22,960 --> 04:10:26,319
somebody tell the representatives, some

5765
04:10:24,640 --> 04:10:28,160
of them are not even here. That says a

5766
04:10:26,319 --> 04:10:30,319
lot that they need to live up to that as

5767
04:10:28,160 --> 04:10:33,040
well. And I don't care if you get paid

5768
04:10:30,319 --> 04:10:35,279
pennies on the hour. You get junk sodas

5769
04:10:33,040 --> 04:10:37,359
and old San XL, which isn't even chips.

5770
04:10:35,279 --> 04:10:39,840
So come on, start working harder. Quit

5771
04:10:37,359 --> 04:10:41,520
making me fall asleep. Thank you.

5772
04:10:39,840 --> 04:10:44,960
» Next is Caesar Javier, followed by the

5773
04:10:41,520 --> 04:10:48,000
original draw online.

5774
04:10:44,960 --> 04:10:51,359
» Oh, next is Original Draw Online,

5775
04:10:48,000 --> 04:10:53,439
followed by Paul the Bold.

5776
04:10:51,359 --> 04:10:54,960
» It's funny to see you guys shift things

5777
04:10:53,439 --> 04:10:57,120
around. It's like having a bunch of

5778
04:10:54,960 --> 04:10:58,960
clutter and then you just like move it

5779
04:10:57,120 --> 04:11:02,160
around to act like you cleaned it up.

5780
04:10:58,960 --> 04:11:04,160
Um, and you know, this could potentially

5781
04:11:02,160 --> 04:11:06,399
just be shifting things around to get

5782
04:11:04,160 --> 04:11:08,399
people more money and more of this and

5783
04:11:06,399 --> 04:11:11,600
more of that to not provide the things

5784
04:11:08,399 --> 04:11:12,720
that you guys profess to provide, you

5785
04:11:11,600 --> 04:11:15,120
know, because there'll always be

5786
04:11:12,720 --> 04:11:16,960
something that gets in the way. But it I

5787
04:11:15,120 --> 04:11:18,560
don't understand how you can have

5788
04:11:16,960 --> 04:11:19,760
positions that you're saying that you're

5789
04:11:18,560 --> 04:11:21,120
not going to need anymore, but you're

5790
04:11:19,760 --> 04:11:23,120
going to keep them until there's no

5791
04:11:21,120 --> 04:11:24,640
employees in there. That doesn't make

5792
04:11:23,120 --> 04:11:26,800
any sense. Why would you do that? And

5793
04:11:24,640 --> 04:11:29,040
then even the ones that you take out and

5794
04:11:26,800 --> 04:11:31,760
you say you no longer need, are those in

5795
04:11:29,040 --> 04:11:33,600
the budget that you are saying for the

5796
04:11:31,760 --> 04:11:35,680
salaries that you need that you'll like

5797
04:11:33,600 --> 04:11:38,479
pull that out as money that's needed

5798
04:11:35,680 --> 04:11:41,279
just in case that position was filled?

5799
04:11:38,479 --> 04:11:43,760
Um, and you know, if they're not and you

5800
04:11:41,279 --> 04:11:45,120
did um, you know, take that money out,

5801
04:11:43,760 --> 04:11:46,800
where does that go? Does it go back?

5802
04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:48,239
Does it go into somebody else's pockets?

5803
04:11:46,800 --> 04:11:50,319
Are you just going to reclassify

5804
04:11:48,239 --> 04:11:53,439
somebody to, you know, kind of put it in

5805
04:11:50,319 --> 04:11:56,000
their pocket? Um just you know

5806
04:11:53,439 --> 04:11:58,479
interesting to see the things that are

5807
04:11:56,000 --> 04:12:00,720
so important to you guys to do which is

5808
04:11:58,479 --> 04:12:04,399
definitely making sure people are paid.

5809
04:12:00,720 --> 04:12:06,080
I mean that is 100%. Which I mean on the

5810
04:12:04,399 --> 04:12:08,479
surface that looks good because you do

5811
04:12:06,080 --> 04:12:11,439
want to be paid but then when you don't

5812
04:12:08,479 --> 04:12:14,080
provide the things that you know pe that

5813
04:12:11,439 --> 04:12:16,399
are promised to the people and then you

5814
04:12:14,080 --> 04:12:18,319
mismanage all of the money that you guys

5815
04:12:16,399 --> 04:12:20,800
get because you do have your hands in so

5816
04:12:18,319 --> 04:12:22,399
many buckets. It's like how many more

5817
04:12:20,800 --> 04:12:26,720
positions are going to be I mean like

5818
04:12:22,399 --> 04:12:28,800
400 people to do all of this nonsense

5819
04:12:26,720 --> 04:12:30,399
and we just keep pay paying people more

5820
04:12:28,800 --> 04:12:33,359
money but we don't really have anything

5821
04:12:30,399 --> 04:12:35,920
to show for the fruits of your labor. So

5822
04:12:33,359 --> 04:12:37,359
it's like you know I mean once people

5823
04:12:35,920 --> 04:12:40,399
start to see that you're just paying

5824
04:12:37,359 --> 04:12:42,000
more and more for nothing. Um but total

5825
04:12:40,399 --> 04:12:44,479
control because that's it. That's why

5826
04:12:42,000 --> 04:12:47,439
you guys have to change behaviors right

5827
04:12:44,479 --> 04:12:48,720
through punitive actions. Good. It's

5828
04:12:47,439 --> 04:12:50,640
good. That's the way you treat the

5829
04:12:48,720 --> 04:12:52,080
people. But if you're an employee, heck,

5830
04:12:50,640 --> 04:12:56,199
you guys will make sure that you're paid

5831
04:12:52,080 --> 04:12:56,199
a pretty penny all the time.

5832
04:12:56,640 --> 04:13:01,160
» And our last public comment is Paul

5833
04:12:58,160 --> 04:13:01,160
Devolt.

5834
04:13:06,319 --> 04:13:13,520
Not much to say here, but um after that

5835
04:13:10,080 --> 04:13:17,760
scathing assessment and name only by a

5836
04:13:13,520 --> 04:13:20,080
truly independent outside auditor, it is

5837
04:13:17,760 --> 04:13:23,040
clear to me that some of the people here

5838
04:13:20,080 --> 04:13:26,479
do not deserve raises. In fact, I

5839
04:13:23,040 --> 04:13:31,439
suggest that maybe

5840
04:13:26,479 --> 04:13:36,479
a lot of the people here seem to want a

5841
04:13:31,439 --> 04:13:40,000
long holiday this year. Um,

5842
04:13:36,479 --> 04:13:43,520
class 120, associate capital project

5843
04:13:40,000 --> 04:13:47,199
manager 2 does not need a backhanded

5844
04:13:43,520 --> 04:13:51,199
raise by reclassifying him or her to

5845
04:13:47,199 --> 04:13:56,080
class 121. The only raise that I see on

5846
04:13:51,199 --> 04:14:00,319
the list. Um, capital projects cost us a

5847
04:13:56,080 --> 04:14:05,120
lot more than it should. Um, it is a

5848
04:14:00,319 --> 04:14:08,479
rather sneaky move. what we can I think

5849
04:14:05,120 --> 04:14:11,439
expect from Sandag.

5850
04:14:08,479 --> 04:14:13,600
I did not get to speak on non-aggenda by

5851
04:14:11,439 --> 04:14:16,479
the way because there was silence on the

5852
04:14:13,600 --> 04:14:18,560
recording while waiting for quorum. So I

5853
04:14:16,479 --> 04:14:22,000
went to another room to see whether the

5854
04:14:18,560 --> 04:14:24,720
meeting was on. So I suggest the

5855
04:14:22,000 --> 04:14:28,640
background noise for

5856
04:14:24,720 --> 04:14:30,880
um the period of silence on the call-in

5857
04:14:28,640 --> 04:14:33,359
systems.

5858
04:14:30,880 --> 04:14:38,800
Happy holidays

5859
04:14:33,359 --> 04:14:41,279
uh to all. Um where are you on getting

5860
04:14:38,800 --> 04:14:44,720
voting seats for the Native Americans in

5861
04:14:41,279 --> 04:14:46,800
East County? Let's end taxation without

5862
04:14:44,720 --> 04:14:50,640
a representation.

5863
04:14:46,800 --> 04:14:54,560
Whimo driverless taxis are coming here.

5864
04:14:50,640 --> 04:14:57,680
The MTS taxi advisory committee came out

5865
04:14:54,560 --> 04:15:00,560
against Whimo and I hope you do too.

5866
04:14:57,680 --> 04:15:02,560
These rolling minuses do not belong in

5867
04:15:00,560 --> 04:15:06,720
our streets.

5868
04:15:02,560 --> 04:15:08,000
Uh, thanks for listening.

5869
04:15:06,720 --> 04:15:08,800
» That concludes our public comment on

5870
04:15:08,000 --> 04:15:10,800
this item. Chair.

5871
04:15:08,800 --> 04:15:12,479
» Okay. Very good. Um, any board member

5872
04:15:10,800 --> 04:15:14,479
comments? If not, I'd entertain a motion

5873
04:15:12,479 --> 04:15:17,040
to approve the recommended changes to

5874
04:15:14,479 --> 04:15:19,359
the the Sandag position classification

5875
04:15:17,040 --> 04:15:20,319
salary range table. Moved by Mento,

5876
04:15:19,359 --> 04:15:21,520
second by

5877
04:15:20,319 --> 04:15:23,279
» Gastland.

5878
04:15:21,520 --> 04:15:26,080
» Gastland. Okay. Please vote.

5879
04:15:23,279 --> 04:15:29,800
» There you go.

5880
04:15:26,080 --> 04:15:29,800
But he could do that fast.

5881
04:15:40,960 --> 04:15:44,199
» Use hers.

5882
04:15:51,600 --> 04:15:54,800
» That was easy.

5883
04:15:52,800 --> 04:15:56,800
» Okay, that passes unanimously. Let's

5884
04:15:54,800 --> 04:15:59,040
move to our last item, the bond issuance

5885
04:15:56,800 --> 04:16:00,640
refunding overview.

5886
04:15:59,040 --> 04:16:04,239
Don, this is you.

5887
04:16:00,640 --> 04:16:07,120
» As Don is setting up, um she's going to

5888
04:16:04,239 --> 04:16:09,439
be talking of uh there's some bonds

5889
04:16:07,120 --> 04:16:12,479
coming for for

5890
04:16:09,439 --> 04:16:15,040
um Oh my god, I lose track of what we go

5891
04:16:12,479 --> 04:16:17,920
the cold date for the bonds. So, our

5892
04:16:15,040 --> 04:16:21,120
financial advisors evaluate if the terms

5893
04:16:17,920 --> 04:16:24,640
that we have are good enough to continue

5894
04:16:21,120 --> 04:16:27,439
or if we go and do a reissuance. This is

5895
04:16:24,640 --> 04:16:30,720
not to get new money or anything like

5896
04:16:27,439 --> 04:16:32,239
that. This is to save financing and the

5897
04:16:30,720 --> 04:16:33,920
team will talk about it through the

5898
04:16:32,239 --> 04:16:37,120
life. I think we're talking about $40

5899
04:16:33,920 --> 04:16:39,520
million on potential savings, but I'll

5900
04:16:37,120 --> 04:16:43,520
let Don take care of that.

5901
04:16:39,520 --> 04:16:45,520
» All right. Thank you. Um so yes, I'm

5902
04:16:43,520 --> 04:16:48,880
here with an overview of this proposed

5903
04:16:45,520 --> 04:16:51,120
bond issuance. Um we do everything that

5904
04:16:48,880 --> 04:16:55,120
we do related to our debt uh in

5905
04:16:51,120 --> 04:16:58,159
association with board policy 36. Um and

5906
04:16:55,120 --> 04:17:01,760
so we have an opportunity uh to achieve

5907
04:16:58,159 --> 04:17:03,680
some savings here. The 2016 bond series

5908
04:17:01,760 --> 04:17:06,960
is callable this year. They were issued

5909
04:17:03,680 --> 04:17:09,279
as 10-year park hall bonds. Um so I'm

5910
04:17:06,960 --> 04:17:13,199
just going to start out with an overview

5911
04:17:09,279 --> 04:17:15,040
of um the team for this transaction. We

5912
04:17:13,199 --> 04:17:18,880
have quite a few folks internally here

5913
04:17:15,040 --> 04:17:21,439
at Sande working on this. Um PFM

5914
04:17:18,880 --> 04:17:24,080
financial adviserss is our uh financial

5915
04:17:21,439 --> 04:17:28,000
advisor uh for this and on our retainer

5916
04:17:24,080 --> 04:17:30,960
for uh everything else that we do do.

5917
04:17:28,000 --> 04:17:33,600
Mudra Patel from PFM is here with me

5918
04:17:30,960 --> 04:17:35,359
today. Our bond council selected for

5919
04:17:33,600 --> 04:17:38,000
this transaction is Norton Rose

5920
04:17:35,359 --> 04:17:40,880
Fulbright and Stradling Yoka Carlson and

5921
04:17:38,000 --> 04:17:43,600
Roth is our disclosure council. Uh our

5922
04:17:40,880 --> 04:17:45,840
senior underwriting team is Wells Fargo.

5923
04:17:43,600 --> 04:17:48,960
Uh they are joined uh with co-managers

5924
04:17:45,840 --> 04:17:51,960
from Barkclay's uh BFA and Hilltop

5925
04:17:48,960 --> 04:17:51,960
Securities.

5926
04:17:54,239 --> 04:17:58,560
So we're just going to go over a few

5927
04:17:55,920 --> 04:18:00,560
things why we're issuing the bonds. Uh

5928
04:17:58,560 --> 04:18:03,279
some issues related to the timing,

5929
04:18:00,560 --> 04:18:06,080
potential size and the structure, our

5930
04:18:03,279 --> 04:18:08,159
estimated savings and cost of issuance.

5931
04:18:06,080 --> 04:18:12,000
um some issues concerning the credit

5932
04:18:08,159 --> 04:18:15,840
ratings and the calendar of events.

5933
04:18:12,000 --> 04:18:18,000
So again, board policy 36 um is what we

5934
04:18:15,840 --> 04:18:21,279
use it. It guides us in our refunding

5935
04:18:18,000 --> 04:18:24,159
considerations. We're looking for uh net

5936
04:18:21,279 --> 04:18:26,560
present value savings. In this case, we

5937
04:18:24,159 --> 04:18:30,319
have an opportunity to do some blended

5938
04:18:26,560 --> 04:18:33,120
um arbitrage yield um scenarios that

5939
04:18:30,319 --> 04:18:35,359
will actually help us uh uh earn a

5940
04:18:33,120 --> 04:18:37,520
little bit more in our arbitrage uh

5941
04:18:35,359 --> 04:18:40,000
callable and non-callable bonds both

5942
04:18:37,520 --> 04:18:41,439
will be involved in this transaction. Uh

5943
04:18:40,000 --> 04:18:45,040
typically we would never have an

5944
04:18:41,439 --> 04:18:46,720
opportunity on a non-callable bond. Um

5945
04:18:45,040 --> 04:18:49,120
but in this case the numbers are

5946
04:18:46,720 --> 04:18:52,479
penciling out to blend these uh

5947
04:18:49,120 --> 04:18:54,479
together. that we can maintain our high

5948
04:18:52,479 --> 04:18:56,399
credit ratings that this structure will

5949
04:18:54,479 --> 04:19:00,080
allow us to continue the matched

5950
04:18:56,399 --> 04:19:04,399
maturity um level debt service that we

5951
04:19:00,080 --> 04:19:07,600
uh have on our senior lean bond.

5952
04:19:04,399 --> 04:19:11,520
So timing the 2016s again callable uh

5953
04:19:07,600 --> 04:19:14,159
April 1st 2026 we have some callable

5954
04:19:11,520 --> 04:19:17,680
2019A bonds and some callable and

5955
04:19:14,159 --> 04:19:19,600
non-callables uh in the 2021A.

5956
04:19:17,680 --> 04:19:23,359
Again, I mentioned this positive

5957
04:19:19,600 --> 04:19:27,359
arbitrage opportunity. So, within 90

5958
04:19:23,359 --> 04:19:31,040
days prior to the call date, um we can

5959
04:19:27,359 --> 04:19:33,680
actually uh do this refunding issuance

5960
04:19:31,040 --> 04:19:37,680
and have an escro deposit that earns a

5961
04:19:33,680 --> 04:19:39,680
blended uh yield rate. So, it blends the

5962
04:19:37,680 --> 04:19:41,760
the rates together and actually pushes

5963
04:19:39,680 --> 04:19:44,560
up what we would be otherwise able to

5964
04:19:41,760 --> 04:19:46,800
earn. Uh so, we are trying to get this

5965
04:19:44,560 --> 04:19:49,279
transaction through in January. That'll

5966
04:19:46,800 --> 04:19:51,760
give us a couple months of of earnings

5967
04:19:49,279 --> 04:19:53,439
on this as well.

5968
04:19:51,760 --> 04:19:57,199
In terms of the size and structure,

5969
04:19:53,439 --> 04:20:01,199
we're looking at about uh 334.3

5970
04:19:57,199 --> 04:20:03,680
million in par that we would refund. Um,

5971
04:20:01,199 --> 04:20:06,800
you know, we're saying all of the 2016

5972
04:20:03,680 --> 04:20:11,120
AS, but the actual 2016 that are

5973
04:20:06,800 --> 04:20:14,319
actually um coming uh maturing uh in

5974
04:20:11,120 --> 04:20:16,640
April uh may not be included in the

5975
04:20:14,319 --> 04:20:20,000
actual refunding. we may let those just

5976
04:20:16,640 --> 04:20:22,640
um mature and be paid. We're looking at

5977
04:20:20,000 --> 04:20:27,840
right now what's penciling out about

5978
04:20:22,640 --> 04:20:31,439
17.4 million in the 2019 AS and 2021 AS

5979
04:20:27,840 --> 04:20:33,840
uh about 97.6 million, but we will have

5980
04:20:31,439 --> 04:20:36,960
parameters. You'll see them in in your

5981
04:20:33,840 --> 04:20:39,439
documents. So, we do continue to watch

5982
04:20:36,960 --> 04:20:41,680
this all the way from the time that we

5983
04:20:39,439 --> 04:20:44,720
imagine doing the refunding to when we

5984
04:20:41,680 --> 04:20:48,880
actually do it. We are looking at the

5985
04:20:44,720 --> 04:20:52,080
market uh where things are are are

5986
04:20:48,880 --> 04:20:54,800
lining up to achieve a minimum level of

5987
04:20:52,080 --> 04:20:56,960
savings for the whole transaction and

5988
04:20:54,800 --> 04:21:00,239
include the bonds that make the most

5989
04:20:56,960 --> 04:21:02,479
sense to achieve that savings.

5990
04:21:00,239 --> 04:21:05,040
And uh these will be issued on the

5991
04:21:02,479 --> 04:21:07,680
senior lean. They'll be tax exempt fixed

5992
04:21:05,040 --> 04:21:09,840
rate bonds and that match maturity

5993
04:21:07,680 --> 04:21:14,479
struct structure with uniform debt

5994
04:21:09,840 --> 04:21:16,239
service savings. um really uh we'll just

5995
04:21:14,479 --> 04:21:18,399
keep things lined up the way they are

5996
04:21:16,239 --> 04:21:20,399
now in terms of our our debt structure.

5997
04:21:18,399 --> 04:21:23,600
I I know you see in the quarterly report

5998
04:21:20,399 --> 04:21:25,920
the charts that show the only ascending

5999
04:21:23,600 --> 04:21:28,640
debt level structure we have is on our

6000
04:21:25,920 --> 04:21:30,560
TIFIA loan. Everything else we really

6001
04:21:28,640 --> 04:21:33,199
have been maintaining as a level debt

6002
04:21:30,560 --> 04:21:35,439
service.

6003
04:21:33,199 --> 04:21:38,720
So again, estimated savings and cost of

6004
04:21:35,439 --> 04:21:41,199
issuance. Right now, uh the 2016 AS are

6005
04:21:38,720 --> 04:21:43,840
looking at nearly $40 million and

6006
04:21:41,199 --> 04:21:47,760
another 3.4 million in net present value

6007
04:21:43,840 --> 04:21:50,319
savings by pulling those um maturities

6008
04:21:47,760 --> 04:21:53,760
that are penciling out in the 2019 AS

6009
04:21:50,319 --> 04:21:57,600
and 2021 AS with a cost of issuance of

6010
04:21:53,760 --> 04:21:59,680
about 1.1 million.

6011
04:21:57,600 --> 04:22:02,800
In terms of the credit rating agency

6012
04:21:59,680 --> 04:22:04,319
reviews, um we have our appointments

6013
04:22:02,800 --> 04:22:06,399
lined up with standard and pores and

6014
04:22:04,319 --> 04:22:08,960
fitch. Right now we're carrying AAA

6015
04:22:06,399 --> 04:22:11,439
ratings uh on the senior lean. We don't

6016
04:22:08,960 --> 04:22:12,960
expect anything to change with that. But

6017
04:22:11,439 --> 04:22:16,159
what you can see here is on our

6018
04:22:12,960 --> 04:22:18,319
subordinate lean, S&P has us at doublea

6019
04:22:16,159 --> 04:22:20,640
and fitch has us at double A plus. And

6020
04:22:18,319 --> 04:22:23,199
we think this is a very good opportunity

6021
04:22:20,640 --> 04:22:25,439
to request S&P to look a little closer

6022
04:22:23,199 --> 04:22:27,760
at this and notch us up because we feel

6023
04:22:25,439 --> 04:22:31,680
strongly that we should be in the double

6024
04:22:27,760 --> 04:22:34,159
A+ category. Um and again that final

6025
04:22:31,680 --> 04:22:37,840
junior subordinate lean of the tiffy

6026
04:22:34,159 --> 04:22:41,120
alone is an A+ rating which is pretty

6027
04:22:37,840 --> 04:22:44,080
all of our ratings are very solid.

6028
04:22:41,120 --> 04:22:46,880
Um, in terms of next steps, I wanted to

6029
04:22:44,080 --> 04:22:49,920
mention first, um, what you have in your

6030
04:22:46,880 --> 04:22:52,640
packet does include a pretty robust set

6031
04:22:49,920 --> 04:22:55,040
of the draft documents. We are not

6032
04:22:52,640 --> 04:22:57,840
planning to go over those with you today

6033
04:22:55,040 --> 04:22:59,520
in detail. We will be back in January

6034
04:22:57,840 --> 04:23:01,199
with our bond council, with our

6035
04:22:59,520 --> 04:23:03,600
disclosure council, and we will be

6036
04:23:01,199 --> 04:23:06,000
walking through the documents and what

6037
04:23:03,600 --> 04:23:08,720
they contain and responsibilities for

6038
04:23:06,000 --> 04:23:11,760
review. Um, but today we wanted to give

6039
04:23:08,720 --> 04:23:13,199
you the overview. uh allow you to, you

6040
04:23:11,760 --> 04:23:15,279
know, ask any questions about the

6041
04:23:13,199 --> 04:23:18,880
overall transaction that you have and

6042
04:23:15,279 --> 04:23:20,800
let you know uh what the process is. So,

6043
04:23:18,880 --> 04:23:24,000
we anticipate receiving the ratings from

6044
04:23:20,800 --> 04:23:27,120
the agencies the week of January 19th.

6045
04:23:24,000 --> 04:23:30,159
Again, we'll come back uh January 23rd

6046
04:23:27,120 --> 04:23:32,159
with the final bond documents. Uh we're

6047
04:23:30,159 --> 04:23:34,239
going to post the preliminary official

6048
04:23:32,159 --> 04:23:36,960
statement and do the marketing of bonds

6049
04:23:34,239 --> 04:23:39,279
the following week with an anticipated

6050
04:23:36,960 --> 04:23:42,000
pricing date uh the that first week of

6051
04:23:39,279 --> 04:23:45,040
February and closing the second week of

6052
04:23:42,000 --> 04:23:46,640
February. And with that, Mudra and I are

6053
04:23:45,040 --> 04:23:49,880
available to answer any questions you

6054
04:23:46,640 --> 04:23:49,880
might have.

6055
04:23:50,080 --> 04:23:53,040
» Thank you very much. All right, we're

6056
04:23:51,359 --> 04:23:55,840
going to go to p uh public comment.

6057
04:23:53,040 --> 04:23:58,000
Please, Michael.

6058
04:23:55,840 --> 04:23:59,760
» We have one public comment. If you are

6059
04:23:58,000 --> 04:24:02,960
online, please raise your hand now

6060
04:23:59,760 --> 04:24:05,359
versus truth.

6061
04:24:02,960 --> 04:24:07,120
» I thought I'd get extra laughs because

6062
04:24:05,359 --> 04:24:09,040
you can't have enough of that in boring

6063
04:24:07,120 --> 04:24:11,439
meetings. No offense. No offense,

6064
04:24:09,040 --> 04:24:12,720
financing, but I hate numbers. Uh, let's

6065
04:24:11,439 --> 04:24:14,319
see. I can say hi to somebody. There's

6066
04:24:12,720 --> 04:24:16,560
Bruce. Hi, Bruce. How you doing? I did

6067
04:24:14,319 --> 04:24:19,600
already give him a shout out. Um, oh, I

6068
04:24:16,560 --> 04:24:23,000
like Terry. Terry's great. Kevin, we're

6069
04:24:19,600 --> 04:24:23,000
thinking about it.

6070
04:24:24,239 --> 04:24:29,279
All right. Look how much time I wasted.

6071
04:24:26,159 --> 04:24:31,840
Zene egg has a peak debt service of $161

6072
04:24:29,279 --> 04:24:34,399
million a 2.2 billion in outstanding

6073
04:24:31,840 --> 04:24:37,040
debt. Thanks Assan and Andre. You know

6074
04:24:34,399 --> 04:24:38,720
it's uh interesting that no matter what

6075
04:24:37,040 --> 04:24:40,319
sandagger the media says the numbers are

6076
04:24:38,720 --> 04:24:42,080
showing that Trump policies seem to be

6077
04:24:40,319 --> 04:24:43,520
resulting in a much more stable market

6078
04:24:42,080 --> 04:24:45,600
than Biden policies. I just like to

6079
04:24:43,520 --> 04:24:47,040
throw a controversy. I'm not even a

6080
04:24:45,600 --> 04:24:50,239
Trump fan, but when you look at the egg

6081
04:24:47,040 --> 04:24:52,080
prices $8 down to $3,

6082
04:24:50,239 --> 04:24:53,920
what are you going to complain about?

6083
04:24:52,080 --> 04:24:55,439
Uh, in fact, if you're outside of crazy

6084
04:24:53,920 --> 04:24:57,920
California, you know, everything's

6085
04:24:55,439 --> 04:25:00,479
affordable. It's amazing how that works.

6086
04:24:57,920 --> 04:25:02,479
Um, but let's see. Let's see. Uh,

6087
04:25:00,479 --> 04:25:04,640
indentured debt ser slavery is what

6088
04:25:02,479 --> 04:25:06,640
bonds are. Santa needs to pay the debt

6089
04:25:04,640 --> 04:25:08,720
off that it unjustly incurred for fake

6090
04:25:06,640 --> 04:25:10,319
transportation solutions like toll lanes

6091
04:25:08,720 --> 04:25:12,720
and then never implement managed toll

6092
04:25:10,319 --> 04:25:15,120
lanes ever again. Uh, and it's actually

6093
04:25:12,720 --> 04:25:18,159
unjust to celebrate no road tax, but

6094
04:25:15,120 --> 04:25:20,399
then confirm two nails new two new sales

6095
04:25:18,159 --> 04:25:21,520
taxes, which actually I say confirm, but

6096
04:25:20,399 --> 04:25:24,399
that's not going to happen. I think

6097
04:25:21,520 --> 04:25:25,600
that's dream world. So again, finance,

6098
04:25:24,399 --> 04:25:27,520
you need to look at that because that's

6099
04:25:25,600 --> 04:25:30,479
not happening. And it says something

6100
04:25:27,520 --> 04:25:32,479
about uh there's a team that engaged the

6101
04:25:30,479 --> 04:25:33,600
financial advisor. Uh can we get names

6102
04:25:32,479 --> 04:25:36,000
for those people that we're paying for?

6103
04:25:33,600 --> 04:25:38,800
I don't even know who that is. Um

6104
04:25:36,000 --> 04:25:40,720
question when the 2026A bonds with Wells

6105
04:25:38,800 --> 04:25:42,720
Fargo were decided, was that when Santa

6106
04:25:40,720 --> 04:25:44,159
was located within the Wells Fargo

6107
04:25:42,720 --> 04:25:45,840
building? I would hope not because that

6108
04:25:44,159 --> 04:25:47,840
seems like a conflict of interest or

6109
04:25:45,840 --> 04:25:51,120
some kind of conflict.

6110
04:25:47,840 --> 04:25:53,359
And uh speaking of financials, uh Terry

6111
04:25:51,120 --> 04:25:55,120
officially joined the broken record club

6112
04:25:53,359 --> 04:25:56,560
today. Congratulations on that. And you

6113
04:25:55,120 --> 04:25:59,680
did it with numbers. That's how it's

6114
04:25:56,560 --> 04:26:01,600
relative. See, I put it all together. Um

6115
04:25:59,680 --> 04:26:04,080
how everyone can stop being a broken

6116
04:26:01,600 --> 04:26:06,080
record on every topic. Work as hard as

6117
04:26:04,080 --> 04:26:09,359
the Santi City Council members. How

6118
04:26:06,080 --> 04:26:11,199
about that? Merry Christmas.

6119
04:26:09,359 --> 04:26:13,920
» Next online is the original draw

6120
04:26:11,199 --> 04:26:18,399
followed by Paul the Bold. The item here

6121
04:26:13,920 --> 04:26:20,479
is the proposed 2026 bond issuance.

6122
04:26:18,399 --> 04:26:23,199
Man, talk about a perpetual state of

6123
04:26:20,479 --> 04:26:24,720
debt just all the time. And it's it's

6124
04:26:23,199 --> 04:26:26,479
interesting because it makes you wonder

6125
04:26:24,720 --> 04:26:29,279
how many, you know, projects have you

6126
04:26:26,479 --> 04:26:32,159
guys engaged in that needed this bond um

6127
04:26:29,279 --> 04:26:35,520
to use them to get the money to, you

6128
04:26:32,159 --> 04:26:37,120
know, complete or start or whatever and

6129
04:26:35,520 --> 04:26:40,560
that never were. And then we're just

6130
04:26:37,120 --> 04:26:42,640
continuing to pay on debt. And it's

6131
04:26:40,560 --> 04:26:45,520
like, you know, you guys just continue

6132
04:26:42,640 --> 04:26:47,359
to get more money of our I just there's

6133
04:26:45,520 --> 04:26:50,640
nothing to show for the amounts of money

6134
04:26:47,359 --> 04:26:52,640
that comes across any government hands.

6135
04:26:50,640 --> 04:26:54,000
I mean, it's astronomical amounts. All

6136
04:26:52,640 --> 04:26:56,239
while people sit here and they're

6137
04:26:54,000 --> 04:26:57,920
suffering. They don't get to sit and be

6138
04:26:56,239 --> 04:26:59,760
in debt like this. I mean, you'll

6139
04:26:57,920 --> 04:27:02,239
take their house and sell it for a

6140
04:26:59,760 --> 04:27:04,479
hundred bucks, which is what the county

6141
04:27:02,239 --> 04:27:06,880
does because you can't pay your taxes.

6142
04:27:04,479 --> 04:27:09,760
It's like, but you guys sit here and you

6143
04:27:06,880 --> 04:27:12,080
rob us of our money that could be used

6144
04:27:09,760 --> 04:27:13,680
to help people actually, you know, just

6145
04:27:12,080 --> 04:27:15,920
survive.

6146
04:27:13,680 --> 04:27:18,800
And instead, you go and you just create

6147
04:27:15,920 --> 04:27:20,800
more debt for us to have to pay off. And

6148
04:27:18,800 --> 04:27:22,080
then you want to come at us and be like,

6149
04:27:20,800 --> 04:27:23,520
we're going to need some more money

6150
04:27:22,080 --> 04:27:25,359
because you know what? We need to pay

6151
04:27:23,520 --> 04:27:27,359
our employees and make sure that we can

6152
04:27:25,359 --> 04:27:29,439
still provide all the things that you

6153
04:27:27,359 --> 04:27:31,279
guys that we're providing for you, which

6154
04:27:29,439 --> 04:27:33,600
is nothing. It's like you look around

6155
04:27:31,279 --> 04:27:35,439
and you're like taking things away. Like

6156
04:27:33,600 --> 04:27:38,800
I said before, trying to change people's

6157
04:27:35,439 --> 04:27:40,800
behaviors, which is psychotic in itself.

6158
04:27:38,800 --> 04:27:42,720
And it's like

6159
04:27:40,800 --> 04:27:44,159
it's just sad because I mean, nobody

6160
04:27:42,720 --> 04:27:47,359
should have even given up their money

6161
04:27:44,159 --> 04:27:49,760
for gold, like their gold for IUS. But

6162
04:27:47,359 --> 04:27:51,600
people were stupid enough to do that.

6163
04:27:49,760 --> 04:27:53,279
And now money is worthless. And then

6164
04:27:51,600 --> 04:27:55,680
we're going to go into some, you know,

6165
04:27:53,279 --> 04:27:58,479
fully digital kind of currency where

6166
04:27:55,680 --> 04:28:00,080
it's going to be even more easy to

6167
04:27:58,479 --> 04:28:01,920
regulate people because, you know,

6168
04:28:00,080 --> 04:28:03,760
you're going to bring in some kind of or

6169
04:28:01,920 --> 04:28:05,760
the whatever the government will will

6170
04:28:03,760 --> 04:28:08,000
bring in some kind of, you know, um

6171
04:28:05,760 --> 04:28:09,600
universal basic income and then take out

6172
04:28:08,000 --> 04:28:10,960
how much you need to pay for your rent,

6173
04:28:09,600 --> 04:28:12,000
your transportation, and everything. And

6174
04:28:10,960 --> 04:28:13,199
they'll be like, "Here, you have a

6175
04:28:12,000 --> 04:28:14,399
couple pennies left, but you know what?

6176
04:28:13,199 --> 04:28:16,080
Pennies are worthless, and we're going

6177
04:28:14,399 --> 04:28:19,040
to take those out so you don't even have

6178
04:28:16,080 --> 04:28:21,199
anything." It is just so sad to see how

6179
04:28:19,040 --> 04:28:22,720
much money goes through your hands and

6180
04:28:21,199 --> 04:28:24,560
we have nothing to show for it and you

6181
04:28:22,720 --> 04:28:26,960
virtue signal like you're perfect.

6182
04:28:24,560 --> 04:28:30,279
» Thank you. Our last public comment is

6183
04:28:26,960 --> 04:28:30,279
Paul the Bold

6184
04:28:35,120 --> 04:28:44,720
here. Um again, happy holidays. Uh, the

6185
04:28:40,399 --> 04:28:48,479
staff report cites a $55 million savings

6186
04:28:44,720 --> 04:28:50,239
under current market conditions.

6187
04:28:48,479 --> 04:28:53,279
Current,

6188
04:28:50,239 --> 04:28:56,080
that is the operative word. The market

6189
04:28:53,279 --> 04:28:58,800
is changing fast, so you might want to

6190
04:28:56,080 --> 04:29:02,880
proceed rather quickly on this, but I

6191
04:28:58,800 --> 04:29:06,880
I'm not sure if it's really practical

6192
04:29:02,880 --> 04:29:10,640
because there's another issue. I hope

6193
04:29:06,880 --> 04:29:16,080
people snap up the new bonds otherwise

6194
04:29:10,640 --> 04:29:18,960
uh this debt refunding won't work and um

6195
04:29:16,080 --> 04:29:24,159
there actually are less and less people

6196
04:29:18,960 --> 04:29:28,960
in the county or probably who want this

6197
04:29:24,159 --> 04:29:32,960
or who want the new bonds. Um, I see by

6198
04:29:28,960 --> 04:29:37,439
the way that the draft resolution goes

6199
04:29:32,960 --> 04:29:40,239
from section six to section 9.

6200
04:29:37,439 --> 04:29:43,520
What would we do without people to

6201
04:29:40,239 --> 04:29:48,640
actually check the resolution to see if

6202
04:29:43,520 --> 04:29:53,680
the the sequence is logical proofreading

6203
04:29:48,640 --> 04:29:55,199
error or is this a purposeful omission?

6204
04:29:53,680 --> 04:29:59,760
Um

6205
04:29:55,199 --> 04:30:05,279
anyway, as I say, happy holidays uh to

6206
04:29:59,760 --> 04:30:08,000
all um and um keeping it short. Thank

6207
04:30:05,279 --> 04:30:09,600
you.

6208
04:30:08,000 --> 04:30:10,479
» That concludes our public comment on the

6209
04:30:09,600 --> 04:30:12,640
item chair.

6210
04:30:10,479 --> 04:30:14,880
» Thank you very much. Okay, I see nobody

6211
04:30:12,640 --> 04:30:16,720
on the board. Uh thank you so much, Don

6212
04:30:14,880 --> 04:30:19,760
and Mudra. We'll see you early next year

6213
04:30:16,720 --> 04:30:21,520
to do the deal um and get this done.

6214
04:30:19,760 --> 04:30:24,239
» I I I I should be on the board.

6215
04:30:21,520 --> 04:30:28,319
» Oh, okay. Mayor Castelin. Okay. Thanks.

6216
04:30:24,239 --> 04:30:31,040
Um, Don, I I wanted to put three

6217
04:30:28,319 --> 04:30:33,920
questions on the table, and I doubt that

6218
04:30:31,040 --> 04:30:35,359
you have the answers right now, but I'd

6219
04:30:33,920 --> 04:30:37,760
like to get the answers. So, the first

6220
04:30:35,359 --> 04:30:40,159
one is how much of the future Transnet

6221
04:30:37,760 --> 04:30:42,159
revenues are obligated by these bonds.

6222
04:30:40,159 --> 04:30:44,880
You know, what portion is going to the

6223
04:30:42,159 --> 04:30:47,760
bond service and what portion is

6224
04:30:44,880 --> 04:30:49,760
available going forward?

6225
04:30:47,760 --> 04:30:50,880
» I don't have it off the top of my head

6226
04:30:49,760 --> 04:30:53,040
right now. I should have brought the

6227
04:30:50,880 --> 04:30:54,960
last quarterly report. didn't give you

6228
04:30:53,040 --> 04:30:55,680
these questions that I will for sure get

6229
04:30:54,960 --> 04:30:58,560
that to you.

6230
04:30:55,680 --> 04:31:01,199
» Great. What will the bond revenues what

6231
04:30:58,560 --> 04:31:04,080
did the bond revenues pay for or will be

6232
04:31:01,199 --> 04:31:06,640
paying for is my second question. And

6233
04:31:04,080 --> 04:31:11,359
what I'll request is a table of the

6234
04:31:06,640 --> 04:31:14,000
2016A, 2019A, and 2021A bonds. How much

6235
04:31:11,359 --> 04:31:15,439
each was and what they were for. I'd

6236
04:31:14,000 --> 04:31:18,080
like to review that so that I have an

6237
04:31:15,439 --> 04:31:21,600
understanding of what we have done with

6238
04:31:18,080 --> 04:31:24,080
this money over the years since 2016.

6239
04:31:21,600 --> 04:31:25,600
» Yes. So, so first let me say that the

6240
04:31:24,080 --> 04:31:28,479
bonds that have been issued with the

6241
04:31:25,600 --> 04:31:31,920
transnet revenue pledge have been uh

6242
04:31:28,479 --> 04:31:34,640
transnet major corridor projects. Uh the

6243
04:31:31,920 --> 04:31:38,000
most most of the debt was related to the

6244
04:31:34,640 --> 04:31:40,479
early action program of projects. So

6245
04:31:38,000 --> 04:31:42,159
that that group of projects that was

6246
04:31:40,479 --> 04:31:45,120
identified for early action when the

6247
04:31:42,159 --> 04:31:49,359
ordinance initially passed, things like

6248
04:31:45,120 --> 04:31:53,199
completion of State Route 52, 76, Mid

6249
04:31:49,359 --> 04:31:57,520
Coast, I5 North Coast corridor, the 8 uh

6250
04:31:53,199 --> 04:32:00,239
805 HO lanes. Uh just several projects

6251
04:31:57,520 --> 04:32:03,680
that oh I-15 I think was also in the

6252
04:32:00,239 --> 04:32:05,120
list. This is my capital person who who

6253
04:32:03,680 --> 04:32:07,359
can remind me everything that was in the

6254
04:32:05,120 --> 04:32:09,600
early action program. But the the debt

6255
04:32:07,359 --> 04:32:11,920
is related to the transnet major

6256
04:32:09,600 --> 04:32:15,040
corridor program predominantly the early

6257
04:32:11,920 --> 04:32:18,319
action program. Uh it was envisioned

6258
04:32:15,040 --> 04:32:20,159
that we would do debt financing um on

6259
04:32:18,319 --> 04:32:22,640
the projects that were prioritized at

6260
04:32:20,159 --> 04:32:26,479
the time the ordinance passed and then

6261
04:32:22,640 --> 04:32:30,720
move into a pay as you go situation. Um

6262
04:32:26,479 --> 04:32:33,199
the board policy uh on debt it indicates

6263
04:32:30,720 --> 04:32:36,880
that so of the transnet revenues that

6264
04:32:33,199 --> 04:32:39,840
come into the major corridor uh we are

6265
04:32:36,880 --> 04:32:42,560
restricted to uh assuring that we have a

6266
04:32:39,840 --> 04:32:45,520
onetoone ratio. So the debt on the major

6267
04:32:42,560 --> 04:32:48,800
corridor program can never be more than

6268
04:32:45,520 --> 04:32:50,800
uh that one-time coverage rate so that

6269
04:32:48,800 --> 04:32:53,040
we have money to go into the program.

6270
04:32:50,800 --> 04:32:54,399
So, every dollar we put into new capital

6271
04:32:53,040 --> 04:32:57,840
projects that are currently in the

6272
04:32:54,399 --> 04:33:00,080
program, no more than a dollar can go

6273
04:32:57,840 --> 04:33:03,520
into the debt. Uh, if you would like the

6274
04:33:00,080 --> 04:33:06,000
table to include the specifics of

6275
04:33:03,520 --> 04:33:07,920
projects that it went into, uh, that may

6276
04:33:06,000 --> 04:33:09,920
take a little bit more time to get, but

6277
04:33:07,920 --> 04:33:14,719
the reality is that I mean, so these

6278
04:33:09,920 --> 04:33:18,080
bond issuances, um, I think the 2021 was

6279
04:33:14,719 --> 04:33:20,160
likely, um, small amount of new money

6280
04:33:18,080 --> 04:33:22,561
maybe, but mostly a refunding. So, some

6281
04:33:20,160 --> 04:33:25,359
of these have been refundings as well

6282
04:33:22,561 --> 04:33:27,840
over time because we began issuing bonds

6283
04:33:25,359 --> 04:33:29,920
back in 2008.

6284
04:33:27,840 --> 04:33:32,080
Um, and so when we have the call dates

6285
04:33:29,920 --> 04:33:35,600
come up, we've we've done several

6286
04:33:32,080 --> 04:33:37,279
additional refundings. Um, so I I can

6287
04:33:35,600 --> 04:33:38,959
work directly with you and and figure

6288
04:33:37,279 --> 04:33:39,520
out what what you want that table to

6289
04:33:38,959 --> 04:33:40,080
encompass.

6290
04:33:39,520 --> 04:33:43,119
» That's great.

6291
04:33:40,080 --> 04:33:46,799
» Mayor, um, if my memory serves me right,

6292
04:33:43,119 --> 04:33:49,600
and Susan will correct me later on, we

6293
04:33:46,799 --> 04:33:52,000
have delivered

6294
04:33:49,600 --> 04:33:55,359
All the projects in the early action

6295
04:33:52,000 --> 04:33:58,160
item except 52 is the only one

6296
04:33:55,359 --> 04:34:01,039
remaining, but all the l all the ones on

6297
04:33:58,160 --> 04:34:01,920
the early action were delivered have

6298
04:34:01,039 --> 04:34:03,920
been delivered.

6299
04:34:01,920 --> 04:34:05,439
» So maybe a a reminder to the board of

6300
04:34:03,920 --> 04:34:07,359
what those early action items were

6301
04:34:05,439 --> 04:34:10,480
because then we'll be in a position to

6302
04:34:07,359 --> 04:34:12,400
speak to what was this money used for

6303
04:34:10,480 --> 04:34:15,039
and we're being wise and thank you for

6304
04:34:12,400 --> 04:34:17,680
bringing the refunding or refinancing of

6305
04:34:15,039 --> 04:34:19,359
this forward so that we hear about it.

6306
04:34:17,680 --> 04:34:21,199
So there's no motion to be made.

6307
04:34:19,359 --> 04:34:22,719
Correct.

6308
04:34:21,199 --> 04:34:24,320
Okay. Very good. This concludes our

6309
04:34:22,719 --> 04:34:25,840
meeting. Thanks for staying for the

6310
04:34:24,320 --> 04:34:28,719
whole time. The next board of directors

6311
04:34:25,840 --> 04:34:30,879
meeting will be January 9th, 2026 at

6312
04:34:28,719 --> 04:34:35,320
9:00 a.m. This meeting is adjourned.

6313
04:34:30,879 --> 04:34:35,320
Happy, safe, and healthy holidays.