Before we begin this meeting, I'll take a moment to address and remind everyone of our House rules.
Public engagement is the cornerstone of a transparent and accountable government, and these board of
Supervisors meetings are one of the primary venues where all Sandigans can make their voices heard.
Our county is committed to a work environment free from unlawful discrimination and harassment, including sexual racial religious age, disability, or any other forms of discrimination or harassment.
Under the board's rules, speakers may not use loud, shouting, threatening, and pertinent slender's profane or abusive language to any member of the board,
staff or the general public.
All remarks and questions must remain on topic during the duration of your speaking time
and must be addressed to the board and not to county staff.
Any speaker who engages in comments that break these rules will be issued a warning.
After one warning, you will be asked to leave the chambers for the remainder of the meeting.
Finally, speaker's starting violence may be reported to law enforcement and removed from the meeting.
This is a space for community engagement deliberation and progress, not for harassment violence
and hate.
We will now proceed with non-agenda public communication.
This is an opportunity for the public to address the board and subject matters within
the board's jurisdiction, but not an item on the meeting agenda.
The only action we board members may take is a referral to the CAO.
Speakers may speak once per meeting for non-agenda public comment either yesterday's
land use legislative session or today's general session, but not both.
And to facilitate our meeting, we will have five non-agenda public comment speakers in person
in five by phone in the beginning of the meeting and the remainder will be heard at the
close of today's session.
In order to ensure timely completion of today's agenda, for any discussion item with
10 or more speakers, individuals will have one minute to share their opinion.
And a reminder, according to ROL4A, members of the public that are not in the speaking
in need interpretation assistance received twice a lot of time for their comments.
Audit members may not whistle, clap, stump, feet, or anything that disrupts the proceedings.
If you disrupt the meeting, you will be given one warning and after that one warning.
If you disrupt the meeting again, you will be directed to leave the chamber for the remainder of the meeting.
Andrew, please call the speakers.
Thank you, Chair.
Last November, we have 28 requests to speak a matter is not listed on the agenda.
15 individuals in person and 13 requesting to speak by phone.
For those that requested to speak by phone, please dial into the conference line using the instructions
that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers, and we'll now randomly select the first five speakers
in-person.
All the remaining speakers will be heard at the conclusion of today's session.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers.
As your name is called, please support and stand on the arrows until it is returned to
speak at the podium.
You'll have two minutes to address the border asking to begin by stating your name for
the audio record.
Like to fight for the first three individuals,
Shariah Adapah, Doyle Morrison,
Tabland Aruya, and they'll be followed
by the final two speakers in person,
Oliver Twist and Anna.
I've called your name, please come forward.
Good morning, members of the board.
My name is Shariah Adapah, and I am currently
an intern with the summer youth academy
with Supervisor Monica Montgomery Stop.
And I wanted to address potential littering
and pollution concerns.
Currently, California laws make littering punishable by fines up to $1,000.
Yet enforcement is virtually non-existent.
The burden of the cleanup falls entirely on the county, costing taxpayers millions
in relative spending rather than attempts to fix the problem.
Research and social behavior demonstrates that visibly neglected environments saying
the signal. A signal that tells people littering is the norm. So, I urge the board to explore
community, centered solutions, particularly ones that engage the youth to participate in
the clansiness of their own neighborhoods. Thank you for your time and this opportunity.
Thank you. Next speaker, please.
Hello, my name is Taitlanderia, and I'm with the
survivor of Montgomery Steps Summer Youth Academy. Thank you for your time today. I want to first
knowledge and appreciate the work this Board has already been doing, and programs currently
in place to support people experiencing homelessness, I recognize and value those ongoing efforts.
Homelessness is a series issue in our community, and I'm here to urge continued investment
in long-term solutions. That means strengthening services like mental health care, substance use
treatment, job opportunities, and supportive services that help people regain stability. Prevention
is also key, rental assistance, crisis support, and outreach can help prevent homelessness
before it starts. Homelessness is a community issue, and it requires a continued community
response. I urge and encourage communities to continue support for the existing programs
championed by this board while building on them to expand their impact. Thank you for your time
today.
Thank you, next speaker, please.
Good morning Board of Supervisors. First, thank you for your time and consideration.
My name is Ana Savito and I am with Supervisor Monaco Montgomery Step Summer Youth Academy.
I am here to urge you to continue advocating and funding solutions for the Tijuana River Valley.
As you know, this issue has impacted both the people who reside there
and the community surrounding this area, which raises concerns for public and environmental health.
Advocacy won't show that this problem becomes resolved while funding can solve and prevent future issues from rising.
I encourage you to continue supporting investments in wastewater treatments and infrastructure
improvements in order to approve and protect the communities there.
Thank you for your time and commitment to resolving this issue.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning, Oliver Twist.
First, I'm happy to see the young people developing their public speaking, so thank you
for that program.
Oliver Twist here.
I want to take a moment to celebrate something bigger than any agenda item.
happy birthday America. Nearly 250 years ago, this country remains one of the most extraordinary
experiments in human history. In perfect, absolutely, still evolving, always. The grounded
and a promise that is drawn millions from around the world, the promise of freedom, of opportunity,
and of a chance to build something better for yourself, your family, and for the next generation.
What makes this nation remarkable, isn't that we've gotten everything right, far from it,
is that we keep pushing forward, ever striving to become that more perfect union.
The rights we enjoy, the doors open to innovation and ambition, the ability to speak,
to build challenge and dream.
These are not guarantees found in most of the world.
Here they are part of the very fabric of our great nation.
So, today, let's celebrate that privilege, not take it for granted, and carry forward the
responsibility and keep strengthening it.
Happy birthday, America, lastly to this chamber, bring back clapping, the happy cacophony
of democracy.
Your double standard of allowing clapping for your own proclamations for yourselves and your
people of choosing, but not for when we, the people's speak, is not only hypocritical, it
is also illegal, please refer to in-rake, a clause is a form of expressive speech and a feedback
mechanism that communicates levels of support. You are infringing on a critical form of
public input, particularly for those who might be too hesitant or too shy to speak, bring
back clapping. Thank you.
Thank you. Is Doyle Morrison present in the chamber?
I'm not seeing him present, I'll go ahead and call the fifth speaker on the list, Sanaya,
Jamison.
Good morning, Supervis.
My name is Sanaya Jamison, and I am here with Supervis and Montgomery.
Monica Montgomery, step summary of the academy.
I am here to speak about juvenile justice and the importance of creating assistance
and not prioritize re-optive meetings.
Accountability and opportunity.
Investing a safe environment's mentorship, education,
and support resources allows youth to grow.
Make positive changes and contribute to stronger communication.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Thank you.
Well, now here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone, again, in accordance
of the board's rules will be hearing from the first five collars, the remaining collars
will be heard at the conclusion of today's session.
When it is returned to speak, it will be unmuted and you will hear a recording that will
tell you to begin your comments.
We will start with our first collar.
Go Mary Davis, I'm Paul Bold, like last meeting, I'm glad to say short discussion agenda
now that the south-serving term limit expanding Charger Medler was approved for the ballot,
so there is no need for political gloss curing right now.
They can't they regularly engage in an unlawful instruction to put off disclosure of embarrassing
tax, wasting tax, payer resources to keep the public in the dark.
This interferes with our right to advise and content.
An act of Republican democracy requires public participation by as many members of the public
as possible.
This is the route to getting the best ideas on how to fix the many problems and failures
in this county.
Most people, as the U.S. Constitution, as the California Constitution specifies an article
one section three, the people have the right to instruct, there are representatives,
a decision government for the redorts of grievances, and a symbol for the ability to
consult for the common good.
The people have the right of access to information concerning the conduct of the people's
and therefore, the meetings of public bodies and the writings of public officials and agencies
called be opened to public scrutiny. And since Section B7 says, each local agency is
hereby required to comply with the California Public Record's Act and the Ralph M. Brown Act
And what's in a sub-sequence that you call it an axiom instrument being either act, that act is an effect part of the Constitution.
And if you're actually rules or contrary, there is no effect.
We'll hear from the next caller.
I'm going slow here.
The system is failing now more than ever.
We have local county, we
have local county officials, really,
nearly throwing money at silly things like soccer events.
Well, they're people within their districts are a need of the basics.
This is some remains the same, although the only difference is that it's growing more
corrupt and sloppy, while officials have the audacity to become more arrogant as they fail
at the basic task of their roles, they play.
We have two tellers with the blowers,
people exposing truths being punished.
Some sit in jail, Andrea Eben,
some have gag orders on them.
Isn't it something the link, the links,
the system will go in order to maintain itself.
Rules and laws for the, but not for me.
That seems to be the motto of our local county government agencies.
So I was sitting thinking of what to say,
I was just reminded of how I feel as though I said it all and already I don't mind we to broken record as I said yesterday broken record because I do realize that there are people who are waking up to the illusion and that illusion is this we live in a world where people look up to those who
who believe in a left-right paradigm who still believe that there are selected officials that are coming to save them.
Yes, I mentioned people who hoard money while children starve, and they are not people to be admired.
They are moral failures of our society.
And just as the selected officials of our county, they too are moral failures that work and promote
for the globalists agenda as well, pretending to fix our county's problems instead.
They are pretty good.
Thank you.
Here from the next caller.
My name is Dennis Brown and I'm representing the state of New California represented by Paul
Pressing Governor Pro Tempore.
I dropped off this letter to the Board of Supervisors,
the county written.
The purpose of this notice is to ask for an opportunity to address the entire board and or present a claim,
contesting the certification of any election results. At the next regularly scheduled board meeting,
I am also requesting the board direct the register of voters to respond and request for the information below.
I invite Eric tension to the California election code section 1, 6, 1, 0, 0, 0,
D, which states in part any elector of a county city or any political subdivision of either
may contest any election held there within, or any of the following causes, D, that illegal
votes were cast, and they have been.
The actual basis of my request is that the common knowledge that there has been a flood of illegal aliens in California.
It's counties, it's cities, it's school districts.
Those citizens have apparently been able to register with the Department of Motor Vehicles to vote.
With registration of these non-citizens have been provided with voter registration and election ballots.
It is also common knowledge that investigative reporters have discovered that some illegal non-citizens have in fact voted.
Providing these non-citizens voter registrations and election ballots gives you the numbers of the water supervisors and register of voters to set aside and deny its certification is a number of illegal voters
as set forth in California election code 1, 6, 1, 0, 0, specifically 7.
Thank you.
We'll hear from the next caller.
Morning.
My name is Becky Rapp.
And today, I'd like to raise concerns about moving forward with a socially equitable cannabis program.
At a time when the marijuana industry is already struggling throughout our regions.
This recently Jack's cannabis and Ramona closed the stores.
The business shutdown in April, reportedly due to taxisote, this means that one of the five existing marijuana storefronts in the unincorporated county is no longer operating.
That closure should be a warning sign. If existing businesses cannot remain financially viable, why is the county considering creating additional permits and expanding the industry?
Before launching a new program, we should first evaluate the performance of the businesses
that already exist.
The county has spent years discussing social equity and marijuana expansion, but residents
still have many unanswered questions.
How much public money has been spent developing in administering these programs?
And how many existing operators are actually succeeding?
How many tax revenue has actually been generated compared to the cost of regulation, enforcement, administration, and program development?
Before moving forward with this program, I urge the county to provide a full accounting of all expenditures related to marijuana regulation and social equity planning.
The closure of Jack's cannabis should be viewed as an opportunity to pause, reassess, make decisions based on evidence, rather than assumptions.
Thank you.
Well, here from the final call of this morning.
Good morning, Board of Supervisors and Riddles here.
I've called in to also express my concern about the county's SECP,
socially at the local cannabis program.
We out here in the county and incorporated area have many questions.
And personally, as a health educator, a retired social worker, when I received this latest
invite to attend a webinar on Monday, I worried again.
It was entitled, Health Problems from the Admissions of Canada's Cultivations.
The three presenters are well-known in their fields.
The webinar explored the often overlooked public health concern for the release of airborne toxins
from cannabis cultivation, and their potential impact on the surrounding communities.
This goes beyond smell, which has also been a great concern with the inner and incorporated areas.
As we've had presentations from the county, a Santa Barbara regarding the nuisance suits that they have to handle,
because of the horrible smell that cultivation created in their county and those lawsuits
around going.
The three presenters aren't extremely well known within the medical community.
One Dr. Cohen known to me as a certified pediatric hominologist, especially as always been
respiratory infectious diseases, particularly as they apply to children and heal BRD
Presenter was our lead presenter.
We have that second presenter,
was a well-known environmental attorney
who supports EPA Clean Air Act rules
and often appears before them.
And he has participated here in California
regarding cannabis cultivation and third,
but not least again, well known here in California,
as a doctorate of biochemistry
whose work has always been in cell, biology, embryo, allogies, and she's particularly concerned.
You and Chair Lossler, remember that concludes public comment on the items not listed on the agenda.
Again, any remaining speakers we heard at the conclusion of today's session?
Okay, thank you very much.
The next item on our agenda is approval of the minutes and statements of proceedings for the flood control district.
Is that correct, Andrew?
And this is for the meeting of June 9th, and June 10th, the Board of Supervisors budget hearing of June 1st, and the minutes for the concurrent special district meeting, the housing authority of June 10th, the in-home support of services, public authority of January 28th, and June 9th, and the redevelopment of successor agency at April 21st, is there a motion to approve all of these minutes?
Okay, we have a motion from the Vice-Chairs,
their second,
and we have a second prom,
a Supervisor Desmond, Andrew, please call the vote.
Chair Lawson, Raymond, that motion passes unanimously,
with all Supervisors being present in 1049.
Okay, great.
We now proceed with the formation of the consent agenda.
So this is items 1 through 7, 15 through 17,
and in-home supportive services item 2,
all items in the consent agenda are routine,
and we'll be acted upon with one motion.
Individuals can comment on the consent agenda after super-resist pull any items they would like to pull for discussion or make any comments.
Would any of my colleagues like to pull any items for discussion or have comments in any of the items from the other consent agenda?
Vice Chair McMurze.
Let me make sure.
I'm nothing to pull and I'm happy to move the consent agenda.
Okay, thank you very much.
We have a motion on the floor from the vice chair.
I'd like to pull item 15.
We'll be pulling item 15.
Super is there, Anderson?
All right.
Okay.
Super is there, doesn't it?
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I have a comment on item number four.
I want to register in no vote and item four.
I'd previously voted against this.
This is the creation of the consumer fairness protection unit within county council.
The district attorney's office already handles consumer protection cases and if your consumer protection is a priority, we should hire more people in the DA staff, not create a duplicative department, so I'll be registering in no vote item four.
Okay. Thank you very much. We have a motion on the floor from the vice chair for the consent agenda item 15 has been pulled.
And Superzer Desmond would like to register a no vote and item 4. I'm happy to second the vice chair's motion. We can now go to public comment.
Thank you chair Lawson Remor. Before we go to public comment, I would like to note for the record that agenda item 16 on the general legislative legislative session consent agenda.
And item two on the in-home support of services public authority consent and gender seeks approval of adjustments of the compensation for the Chief Administrative Officer,
Clerk of the Board of Supervisors, Chief Probation Officer, and the in-home support of services public authority or IHSS Executive Director,
pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 3, 3, A prior to taking final action, the legislative
body shall early report the summary of a recommendation for a final action on the salaries,
salary schedules or compensation paid in the form of fringe benefits of local agency executives.
The proposed adjustments would set the compensation at hourly rates as follows $277.39 per hour
for the chief administrative officer, $119.23 per hour for the clerk of the board.
$144.49 per hour for the chief probation officer in $91 and $13 per hour for the IHSS Executive Director.
Subject to approval, these adjustments would all be effective June 26, 2026.
There were no other changes to the existing fringe benefits and paid leave applicable to these positions with that statement in the record.
These items may remain on consent for approval.
But that noted, we do have 15 total requests to speak on items on the consent agenda for individuals in person, 11, 11, requesting to speak by phone.
As a reminder, item 15 was pulled from the consent agenda for discussion.
So any individual that requests to speak on that item, please hold your comments until the board discusses that item.
We will receive public comment on that item separately.
For the phone callers, this is the time to call in to speak on the remaining items on the consent agenda.
Please download the conference line now using the instructions that we're provided to you go ahead and begin with our in-person speakers as your name is called please come forward and stay on on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium
You will then have two minutes to address the board if you could please begin by stating your name for the record also when speaking please identify which consent agenda items you are speaking on
like to invite for the first three individuals allegedly. Audra Natalie Rosh
Rosh and
Marco Espinoza
First of all, you should not have approved the minutes for the June 1st meeting more terror was not here nor on camera.
There was no quorum, you have been sent a curing correct, so I mean whatever.
The sheriff absolutely needs to have help with the medical care that's going on in the jails.
They're not equipped to deal with it, so they do need to go to an outside entity that would be able to handle the health care needs of certain individuals.
that are in there with the home key program, so I just would like to report that a woman
was found to cease today at O'Locked this morning. That brings the deaths to 17 this year.
And, you know, I'm even now like 30 or almost 40, probably the entire time. They've been there.
I'm going to have to get a tally. But when you're talking about putting people into homes
and buying them, they can't even pay the rent. So I mean, I think we need to be kind of working
And that kind of leads to like, you guys are giving yourself raises while people are just trying to make ends meet.
I don't think any raises should be taken place, especially when people who are getting such significant amounts of money are the ones
to termining the things for people who don't have anything.
And like they would never be able to, you know, have any kind of understanding of what that's like.
So all of the programs that you guys do actually don't benefit the people that you claim that they will.
And this behavioral health stuff, it's very concerning, what's going on with behavioral health
because it is being used to silence people, like Andrea, being deemed incompetent.
Now she can be put in one of your mental facilities and totally drugged up so that she doesn't
continue to talk about summer stuff and in the crimes that have been perpetrated against her and her children.
So, it's very concerning when it is being used as a weapon and it will continue to be.
And I'm sure you want to use it on Justin as well.
So, when people are trying to get changed to happen because of such a
grieges, things you shouldn't be silencing using your behavioral health unit.
Next speaker,
called for Natalie Marko, and we also have Michael Brando.
You may come forward in any order.
I'm speaking to number 16 about the races, and this is in reference to
up a performance evaluation, and through Potter actually had sent a message to
Godra saying that yesterday's video file of the meeting yesterday is complete and intact and in
whole on YouTube, it is not.
That means that Andrew did not initially review, Audra's request.
There were skips, there were glitches, there were stalls, there were speeches that were
completely missing as if those people were not even here.
Therefore, I don't think someone who's saying something is OK, and then finding out that
it's actually not based on us doing the work should get a raise.
Also, don't think that the CAO should get a raise either.
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars.
That seat, the CAO, has been embroiled in controversy.
see. If you remember the lawsuit involving terror loss of rumor, Claudia Silver, Helen Robbins
Meyer, Michael Vu, that these pieces, these ponds up here are put there to uphold a facade
and an agenda that is not the agenda for the people here on this local soil. So if anything,
and raises should not be given.
Salary duck reductions are in order. As Audra, which Tara has said that she's a parliamentarian extraordinary there, that's Audra being a parliamentarian extraordinary,
she could do the job of Andrew.
The good thing is Andrew is going to remedy this situation, but it would not have happened if we had not stepped forward.
Thank you.
Thank you. And then last call for Natalie Rask and Marco Espinoza.
Okay, not seeing any movement in chambers.
We will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone.
When it is your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted.
You will hear recording that will tell you to begin your comments
and we will go ahead and begin with our first caller.
All about our raises.
Limit them to 20 bucks an hour.
See how the lowering comes to kitchen workers live.
For litigation authority, what concerns me most is that this authorized is the
Catholic Council to pursue a litigation of the appellate chain, which couldn't
involve the county in significant costs and consequences.
It all seems to me that I, the methods wrong and should be deleted.
If the county plays the juvenile and detention are placed by court order, the county should
were responsible for the cost of that placement, but in K, eviction should specify regarding
candy on the property, like item L, and opens the door to unnecessary litigation.
I agree with Jim, you know, you shouldn't open up a new department either.
This is not a dictatorship, and this is whether or not to initiate glitigation effects
to the entire county, and ultimately may involve everyone of us in the consequences.
The decision there for needs to be joint decision like a vote.
The board should not be advocating into authority for us who are okay.
3 LBS guidelines. I'm glad that the first guidelines were in voluntary detention under
LBS Act constitutes a significant deprivation of civil liberties, et cetera, et cetera.
Um, it doesn't important for many people in government, known as mentioned, realize that
they can't put someone away just because they don't agree with whatever they say.
Which is kind of like the independence party where people have to sign on to whatever of the county.
Thank you, your time is up. We'll go ahead and go to our next speaker.
Hello, good morning Board of Supervisors. My name is Madison, and I'm speaking on item 2.
I support this item to pursue home key plus funding.
As a mother of three children and someone who works in use substance use prevention, I see firsthand how closely housing instability,
Mental Health challenges and substance use are connected.
When people are experiencing homelessness, it becomes much harder to access treatment,
maintain recovery, manage mental health conditions, or reconnect with family and community
support systems.
Substantized disorders affects not only the individual, but entire families.
Children may experience trauma, instability, and adverse childhood experiences
that can impact their health and wellbeing for years.
Veterans and individuals living with behavioral health challenges are especially vulnerable
when they lack stable housing.
Permanent support of housing is an important part of the solution.
Recovery and treatment are far more effective when people have a safe place to live and access
supportive services.
Housing provides the stability that allows individuals to focus on improving their health,
seeking employment, rebuilding relationships, and moving toward long-term recovery.
I'm especially encouraged that this project will serve people experiencing homelessness
who are living with mental health and substance use challenges.
Our dressing these issues together is more effective than addressing them separately.
This funky funding represents an opportunity to bring additional state resources to San Diego County
while supporting some of our most vulnerable residents.
I encourage you to approve this item and continue investing in evidence-based solutions that come out healthy,
and thriving communities for everyone. Thank you.
Thank you. We'll get our next call.
I'll go over here.
Thank you.
Okay, some more raises for the ad of touch.
Sure, calling the shots for the ones barely surviving.
Gosh, it's such a curse being awake and paying attention.
They have to call you all out.
As far as the home key program,
I mean, that's going to be funded until it is proven to work, just like the project 25.
Believe that was the name of that program.
Where it was 100% success rate and then it was defunded because it worked.
That was great. Nobody was benefiting from these people
because they were self-sufficient and they were
And they weren't in need of government assistance.
So, I mean, all these items was just, you know,
but the one that really makes my blood boils the raises,
like seriously, the audacity, the arrogance of you all.
And because nobody's paid attention, that's bottom line, nobody's paid attention.
So, out of touch, wow, imagine if all the new mothers got to bring their babies to work,
Mother's that chose to keep their babies because they weren't pressured by society to kill them.
Yeah, it must be nice, right, Tara?
Oh, I think it could be sick. I don't even care if there's a baby on your chest, truly.
So sad. You are the worst of the worst girl when I will say it in front of your kids.
Done.
You're next caller.
The next caller is Terry. Your phone might be muted.
I guess I have to call back.
That is correct.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Good morning.
My name is Becky Raff and I'd like to speak to items number one and three.
I support efforts to ensure that individuals experiencing mental health crisis
receive timely high quality care and that LPS does ignore the facilities
that are held to strong standards of accountability.
I do have one concern regarding recommendation number two, which would allow future revisions
to these guidelines to be made administratively without returning to the board for public
discussions.
As behavioral health policies continue to evolve, transparency and public input remain important,
especially when changes may affect vulnerable individuals and their families.
I would also encourage the county to consider a serious issue that is often missing from
conversations about mental health treatment, and that's the role of marijuana use.
Scientific information is released almost daily, linking high-potency marijuana use with
increased risks of psychosis, schizophrenia, depression, suicidal ideation, and psychiatric
hospitalizations, particularly among adolescents and young adults.
Many individuals enter in crisis care today are struggling with substance use and mental
health conditions. Yet marijuana is often overlooked as a contributing factor. As the county
updates is behavioral health policies and oversight systems, I encourage behavioral health
services to collect and report data on substance use, including marijuana. Better data
can help us better understand what is driving mental health crisis in our community and improve
prevention efforts. Thank you.
Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker.
Good morning, Board of Supervisors, and Riddle.
I called in to speak to Item 3 and 16, which I realize you called
an I-A-O-2, 16 and I-A-O-2 have to do with an increase in salary
and I kind of object to the euphemism of adjustment in compensation.
could we just say a raise in salary? I think that would be the optics of using that type of terminology,
but just isn't fair to the public. I concerned about three years. One I supported, having had to use this with a family member,
which is the idea behind it is to strengthen the requirements associated with bringing those involuntarily
to mental health services.
The face of it is the terminology is scary.
The goal behind it is excellent, however,
and you hear about it all the time from families
who have individuals who are psychotic
and definitely incapable of making it
decision for themselves to seek mental health.
And so we need its families to have this opportunity.
I echo the previous speaker's concern
in the case of my family member,
because it was caused by marijuana, and I don't think we're giving cannabis the spotlight
it needs regarding what happens to our people in our counties that are using. Both in suicide
ideation as well as accomplish suicide rates are higher. And, by cardiac breaks, it's very difficult
to have families to watch that marijuana use create that situation and people to treat marijuana
and you're so privilegedly as it's not.
And I wish we could see more recommendations
recognition within the behavioral health services
for its role.
And I agree that more data collection needs to happen,
so we can understand its role in the services.
Thank you, your time is up, we'll go to our next caller.
It's truth, item one, Medicaid for criminal transit.
Two taxpayers funding healthcare for criminal.
If only the death penalty was a thing,
again, the county could really save money.
I didn't see the home key program
is one of the biggest frauds in the state, and Wakeland is one of the biggest profitiers
office of the fraud.
Yet another $20 million for the public-private fascist partnership to get rich quick
using the taxpayers' dime.
I didn't bring the county crazies, crown themselves the queens of the crazies in charge
of street crazies.
Isn't it crazy how that means the real inmates are actually running DSILEM?
And four carriers all about stealing money via frivolous lawsuits using we the people's
taxpayers.
For example, she had many floma out there exploiting sushi chefs to extort profits from Japanese
companies, all to justify their occupation of the DAs while refusing to investigate
wonderful keta for labor exploitation and human trafficking.
On a five, online filing is now available for many future unpaid property tax bills, future
because she has a nasty habit of expecting everyone else to pay her debt.
I didn't $1,619 an hour for Andrew to sit there and say, next speaker please, wow,
he doesn't answer emails fast, I'll give him that, and $277 an hour for
Ebony to sit there and smile while the county burns down in debt and corruption, note
all raises.
I'm 17, the county and the city of Escindito have obviously decided East Valley Parkway
is now a stack impact dumping ground to a benefit of the San Diego community housing corporation
and the National Committee renaissance of California.
The housing court is owned by the Tendick or Housing Commission Monica's old buddy.
They don't need a bailout as they have $25 million in assets and $5.3 million in revenues.
Their CEO field or Miyajara makes $323,000 a year.
National court is over 10,000 apartments, a hundred and ten properties and $1.3 billion in assets.
They don't need our help either.
Their CEO's CEO's CEO is zero-experience in housing using overpaying
open new funds for the institute that works on viruses, note all grits approved by psychotic
grister.
Thank you.
Your time is up.
We'll go to our next speaker.
Matt, what a racket you guys got going on.
It sounds like a racket.
I want to comment on one, two, seven.
Anybody associated with any of these programs, we need to check their legal status, the
people that work there and the people that are given money to.
No money to illegal and no,
you guys would give money or help a camel too.
You have illegal guys getting some kind of benefit or money.
The guys would give them that money to have
got to be held accountable too.
And so I'm just being in the dark about it.
And then the last button.
Yesterday, they had that automation about the immigrant thing. Why don't you put legal immigrant in front of it?
With having these immigrants that are illegal, the immigrants that are legit, they're not legitimate immigrants they can't hear elderly.
And so, you guys were modding that stuff, just because you're sitting in San Diego town doesn't mean you're an American citizen or deserve the benefits.
So you've got to have some integrity and then about the only one thing you should be doing
now is focusing on the sewer plant down at Tijuana while all those are in our side,
all the people are breathing that air, all the Mexican kids, the poor kids, the white poor
kids down there, they're sucking the sewer gas every day, it's unavoidable and you guys
know intention of where's the plan for the where's the plan for the sewer plant. Where is it?
You guys got one drawn up? Yeah, it starts with a plan. You got to get the plan and then you got to start
getting the money or just doing it. Out of the Mexicans down there build a thing. We're just unacceptable
met on fire's road the other day that's open up the sewer line down and make the hookups. I
So that's up on my bike, thank you, your time is up, we'll go to our next speaker.
Let's see, number one, this medical treatment should be restricted only to immediate care,
not for elected treatment such as anything, trams.
Home key is a fraud.
Number three, beware everybody and look at the people on this board, the buck stops with them,
overseen the San Diego County Psychiatric Institution and Mental Health Treatment of People
living in this county. Parents be familiar with state law 8665, a minor who is 12 years of age or older may consent, may consent without your awareness to mental health treatment counseling as an outpatient or in a residential facility without an exit clause.
Number 16, no salary adjustments. Don't know how anyone works for the county and good conscience. Oh yeah, money and benefits not for the public good.
In 2017, nope, affordable housing is a lie, let me just define what AI says.
A ghetto is a section of a city where minority group lives usually do a social legal or
economic pressure.
The term originate in the 1500s, believe it or not, in to describe a segregated area for
Jewish people in Venice, Italy, but it has evolved over time to encompass several distinct
historical and modern meanings.
In contemporary usage, ghetto often describes impoverished inner city neighborhoods primarily inhabited by racial and ethnic minority, particularly in the United States.
So there's your stack and tax of affordable housing.
Thank you.
I'll go to our next speaker.
Supervisors, John Bernie, we had lived experience advisors.
I am calling to speak on the items related to housing and behavioral health and jails.
I am always well as the salary issues.
I am concerned to see the salaries not listed in dollars in sense in clear annual term,
so that it really people understand the sheer numbers that we're talking about here,
but all of these salaries are well over $100,000 here, some in the multitudes of that.
I would echo that this is very concerning, given where we're headed as in our economy.
Now, as to behavioral health and jails, as you know, the New Good Day Center is formally
going to be closed by the City of San Diego as of December of this year.
I'm asking the county take over this facility for public health and behavioral health reasons.
This facility offers the only $9.10 tall male bathroom facility with sinks in all of downtown for people experiencing homelessness.
It is a loss of more than half of the entire public bathroom offerings in downtown.
And as you know, we've had multiple public health outbreaks.
It is also responsible for providing laundry, as well as a place to wash your personal items,
and most critically, it is the only place that any homeless individual could go during
the day time and be unmelested by police or anyone else.
This is a safe space for women who are cannot sleep during the day.
We offer to operate the facility at expanded hours, 12 hours a day, seven days a week, for $900,000 a year.
That's got to be the best investment you could make today.
Thank you.
Chair Lawson, remember that concludes public comment on the items on the consent agenda.
Okay, thank you very much.
We have a motion on the floor by Subrismun.
Can we step a second by myself?
I suppose a Gary has some comments.
Yeah, just a quick comment on a project, Home Key.
I just want to thank Wakland Housing and the City of Chilovista
for their partnership on this grant application,
even though it's still pending.
It's going to bring significant amount of units to district one
that continues to seek critical need for affordable housing.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
We have a motion of phone a second,
a reminder that item 15 has been pulled.
And the supervisor doesn't deserve to sort of a noble item four.
Please go ahead and vote.
And Chair Loster Nuremberg, that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors of being present voting aye and again voting for the record supervisor
Desmond voted no on item four.
Okay.
We will now begin with our most central item for today of which is our budget.
And this is items eight, nine, F-L-1, I-H-S-S-1, R-S-A-1, F-P-1, and S-A-1.
These are all our budget adoption discussion items, which will be held concurrently.
These are all four-boot items, and we have county team presentation that we will hear first.
Then we will take a moment if there's any particular questions on the presentation, then we'll
public comment, and then we'll have an opportunity for board discussion.
So please, John, thank you for going ahead, Andrew.
Thank you, Chair Loster, you're my members of the Board.
Your items for discussion are items eight and nine on the Board of Supervisors General Legislative
Agenda, item one on the agendas of the flood control district in whom supportive services
public authority, the redevelopment, successor agency, fire protection district, and the sanitation
district for your deliberation and adoption of the operational plan.
These items will be heard concurrently acted on one motion should you desire to do so.
On May 18th, 2026, the Chief Administrative Officers recommended operational plan for fiscal
years 2026 through 28 was released.
Budget hearings began on Monday, June 1st, 2026 with members of the public, being given
the opportunity to provide oral and written testimony.
Budget hearings concluded on June 11th at 5 p.m.
All comments received on the operational plan have been provided at the board and made available
online.
Today's actions request that the board consider the change letter and ultimately approve the
solutions adopting the budget for the county of San Diego, county service areas, community
facilities, districts, certain maintenance districts, permanent road divisions, the Far
Protection District, flood control district, in-home support centers, services, public authority,
redevelopment, successor, eGC, and sanitation district. With that noted, I'll turn it over to
Chief Financial Officer, Joan Pratchee.
Thank you. Good morning, Chair last remember and members of the board. Today we are presenting
the fiscal year 2627 revised Chief Administrative Officers recommended operational plan for the
to consider. Last month, we presented to you the CAO recommended operational plan which reflects
the enormous efforts through the organization to deliver a budget that is balanced
and physically sound, supporting services for the public that residents can rely on today
and into the future, advancing county priorities, reflecting community voices and evolving needs.
The budget is driven by our values including critical safety net services as well as behavioral
health and public health support. It makes our region a better place to live, work, and play,
with major investments in public safety and fire protection, roads, parks, and libraries.
The budget support sustainability through open space and agricultural protection,
new collaboration to identify long-term solutions in the Tijuana River Valley,
and green building practices. This budget aims to preserve important resources for generations
to come on all fronts, while preparing for an uncertain and dynamic environment in the upcoming
fiscal year.
Since the release of the recommended budget, staff have developed some revised budget recommendations
through the CAO's Change Letter, which was released last week at the close of the budget hearing
period.
We'll briefly cover those changes today, which are based on information received by departments
since the release of the recommended budget and what we heard during the public hearing period.
Together, the recommended operational plan and the subsequent change letter culminate into the revised recommended operational plan presented to you today.
This plan, which includes the budget for the upcoming fiscal year, represents a coordinated effort across the entire organization, 20,000 workers strong.
As we recalibrate and align staff and resources to navigate changing state and federal requirements and funding and leverage
county resources in innovative ways while maintaining essential support.
It reflects a detailed look at available funding sources both locally and at the federal and state level.
And to ensure the county is maximizing resources, I want to acknowledge and appreciate the county employees who pursue and administer
the myriad funding sources available to the county, maximizing revenue for our region, helping
to steward public resources, and keep services running. This budget is the product of the
ongoing planning that happens throughout our organization all year. From the county's capital
planning, which looks at county facility needs over the long term, and is annually presented
for the board's consideration and open session, this amount will fluctuate from year to year,
and is based on our annual long-term capital planning process.
This year's budget includes funding for a new behavioral health
wellness campus, a sheriff station in Ramona, planning and design
funding for replacement of the sheriff's detention facility in
Vista, and important maintenance of our facilities.
This budget aims to provide programs and services that make meaningful
differences for our residents in every corner of this county.
With this in mind, we navigated changing economic conditions and evolving
community needs in partnership with this board, departments, labor partners, and stakeholders.
That collaboration and vision for meeting future needs strengthened this plan and the
outcomes it supports ensuring we maintain the hallmarks of county, fiscal stewardship
with ongoing structural balance, stability, and flexibility as recognized in the county's
strong credit ratings.
The budget before the board is balanced and it is reflective of the financial management
practices that define how we plan as an organization.
We don't operate at a deficit, meaning we don't plan to spend more than what we have.
A balanced budget and healthy reserves reflect the strong management and policies that sets
the foundation for the county's fiscal health.
Separate apart from the reserves, the board has set aside general fund balance, specifically
to provide a buffer in a changing policy landscape that amount of fund balance recall
and lock reserves, providing time to respond and to recalibrate to steadily manage the services
our communities rely on and to manage the county's long-term ongoing cost structure.
I want to thank each of our supervisors and our governing board as a collective for your leadership
and serving the residents of this region.
I want to thank members of the public, our communities for their thoughtful input and collaboration
all year long.
Today's presentation will briefly review the revised CAO budget recommendations and highlight considerations that are top of mind as we enter into fiscal year 2627 and plan for the years beyond.
I'll now turn things over to Amy Thompson, deputy chief financial officer.
Thank you, Joan. Today we're presenting the revised recommended budget, which reflects updates through the CAO change letter.
The revised recommended budget now totals $9.16 billion and increase of $3.8 million from the CAO recommended budget and adds one staff year for a total of 20,390 staff plan to serve our communities.
This budget maintains essential services and reflects what we heard throughout the year from residents, partners, employees and the sport.
It is values driven, community informed and focused on delivering real results.
The change letter makes small adjustments to the CAO recommended operational plan by proposing
in the sheriff's office additional funding and one more position for increased law enforcement services
and grant funded services to help re-entry success of justice involved adults.
And land use and environment added funding for road improvements and updated wastewater utility charges in the Department of Public Works.
To continue transitioning behavioral health services, we plan to shift staff and associated
costs from the Health and Human Services Agency to behavioral health services and human
resources, re-aligning functions without adding net positions.
The majority of transfers were included in the CAO-recommended operational plan and the
subsequent action reflects further work on the transition that continued into May.
And lastly, funding is proposed to extend the Moss Fresco Plus Program, increasing access to fresh fruit and vegetables, and to fund a feasibility study for a Department of Youth Development.
This slide summarizes the total revised recommended budget compared to prior adopted budgets, including the changes that were just described.
For a fiscal year 20627, the CAO's revised.
Overall, growth reflects focused investments in behavioral health, public safety, safety net programs, infrastructure, and support for the county's workforce.
This slide shows the budget reflecting behavioral health services separate from the health and human services agency based on recent reorganization.
The revised recommended budget was shaped by engagement with stakeholders and
the county's priorities amidst the environment of changing economic conditions,
changing service demands, and organizational transformation.
To get here, we've looked closely at emerging needs, evaluating what's working,
and recalibrating budget strategies to best serve our region.
This year's budget, before the board reflects those efforts and represents a balanced
approach that maintains services while supporting needs that matter most to communities.
As mentioned, the revised recommended budget supports 20,390 staff and increase of
100 in 9 positions or about half a percent from the current year's adopted budget. The revised
recommended budget increases by one staff year to support law enforcement services requested
by the city of Vista.
Overall, this modest growth is targeted and strategic,
leveraging centralization and reorganization efforts
to reduce the application and to maximize efficiency,
allowing the county to focus and appropriate level of staff
where they're needed the most to address expanding
or changing county responsibilities.
The additions primarily support areas of growth,
including safety net services, consumer protection,
and the county's responsibilities under Proposition 36.
These increases were carefully balanced with reductions achieved through vacant positions
and through attrition.
As in the prior slide, the slide displays behavioral health services separately and reflects
realignment from county-wide centralization efforts included in the CAO-recommended operational
plan to improve efficiencies.
This view shows the distribution of staff across all county areas and how we're positioning the workforce to me operational needs in the coming year.
Much of the work of county staff is evolving and response to changing state and federal requirements and funding, significantly for critical safety net programs.
As the board considers budget adoption, it's important to remember that a significant portion of county funding comes from the state and the feds.
Decisions and policy changes made at those levels directly affect county resources and are associated duties.
The State of California is currently finalizing its fiscal year 2627 budget.
Throughout this process, we continue to advocate for sustainable funding for key community
supports including funding to implement the federal changes under HR1 and new state requirements
of Proposition 36.
We also continue to advocate for funding to address homelessness, mobile crisis response teams,
in-home support of services or IHSS, and to tackle the Tukwana River Valley pollution crisis.
The state has a challenging economic outlook that we're committed to ensuring the county's
voice is heard.
At the federal level, budget development continues towards a new federal fiscal year beginning
October 1st.
Given the upcoming midterm elections and the current dynamics in Washington, there are some
like we hood of another federal government shutdown.
If necessary legislation isn't approved by September 30th,
we continuously monitor developments in Sacramento,
and Washington DC, and work closely with you
so that significant policy changes are considered
and built into development of the county budget
throughout robust long-term financial planning process.
This includes anticipating and planning for capital projects,
including the board's annual approval
of the capital improvement needs assessment or seen a looking at essential needs.
The county's fiscal stewardship and ongoing planning positions the county to take on new challenges
ensuring funds are available to help in emergencies while maintaining our core duties.
Local economic conditions are always changing, requiring constant management and updating
the financial planning and decision-making.
This annual recalibration and response to these important considerations forms the basis
of our work on the budget.
And of course, also significant is the feedback we hear from the community.
Resonance share feedback year-round, and we use it to shape budget priorities.
During the budget development process, we reach residents in the ways they told us
works best for them through digital tools on engage San Diego County, pop-ups, that live well
centers, focus groups, community meetings, and public hearings.
For the first time we partnered with community-based organizations to lead focus groups
and all eight threshold languages bringing
and voices historically underrepresented
in county processes.
Clear accessible communications supported
all engagement efforts, including the
Budget website and County News Center,
Insight Social Media, email, and more.
Ensuring residents have the necessary information
to participate meaningfully.
More than 2,400 participants provided more
than 2,200 pieces of feedback on this budget,
High-lating, a range of community priorities, service needs,
preferred investments, and communication and engagement preferences.
A copy of Commons on the Budget from community members has been shared with the Board for budget deliberations.
Today's item asks the Board to take several actions that finalize the fiscal year 2627 budget.
We're asking the Board to approve the CAO's operational plan change letter,
and adopt the fiscal year 2627 budget resolutions.
We're also asking the Board to authorize the carry forward of prior year in conferences, which ensures
funding remains in place for commitments that are still in progress.
And finally, we request adoption of a reimbursement resolution, which will allow the county to reimburse
eligible costs with future bond proceeds.
Together, these actions complete the Board's budget adoption process, ensuring that the county has the authority
and flexibility needed to continue delivering critical services and support for the community
in the year ahead. Moving towards the vision of a just sustainable and resilient future for
all. I'll turn it back over to Joan.
Okay, thank you, Amy. The county team has taken a thoughtful, collaborative approach working with
the community and other stakeholders to prioritize critical services. Streamline operations and
proposed solutions that are responsive to the needs of our region today. While ensuring financial
stability and flexibility for the road ahead.
This budget is the product of the hardworking members of the county team, including the program
groups and the leadership of the general managers.
Department heads in the many experts across our departments who have generously shared their
knowledge of the services we provide, and innovative ways to deliver them more effectively,
including our mighty deputy CFOs and finance directors, department finance staff, and the office
of financial planning.
We are also grateful for the partnership of elected officials who lead a dedicated workforce,
including the assessor Recorder County Clerk, District Attorney, Sheriff, and
Treasure Tax Collector.
And at the heart of all, we value the many community members, the people we serve, who
make time to share their voices.
Engagement throughout the year matters, and it is reflected in what is before the board
today.
We remain committed to working together to meet today's needs and build a stronger future
for this region.
Subject to your questions.
This concludes this death presentation.
Thank you so much. Any quick questions from my colleagues before we go to public comment?
Okay. Let's go to public comment. Thank you.
Thank you, Chair, Lawson, remember we have 56 requests to speak on these items. 43 in person and 13 requesting to speak by phone.
Also, note for the record that we received 40 e-commence, 36 in support, 2 in opposition and 1 neutral.
For the individuals that requested to speak on the operational plan items, that, again, those
items, eight and nine in the special district items, by phone, please dial in the conference
line using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers.
As your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until it is your
turn to speak at the podium, because there are ten and more speakers on the side of me.
I'll 1 minute to address the board.
In the last schedule, please begin by stating your name for the audio record.
I'll be calling you in groups of three, so I'll ask you to please listen for your name.
Like to invite for the first three individuals, Nicole Lily, Lilliana, and Luis Guera,
if I have caught your name, please come forward.
Luis Guera, good morning supervisors.
My name is Luis Guera, a district one resident representing the Immigrant Defenders Law Center.
I'm here to urge you to approve the 13.2 million needed to fully fund the Immigrant Legal Defense Program.
As one of the largest Immigrant Legal Service providers in California, we've seen the man search.
In the past year alone, we received over 3500 calls, but could only represent 300 individuals.
The need for exceeds our capacity. The legal support we provide is a lifeline.
Our immigration system is complex and often on just what limited access to due process.
No one should be separated from their family simply because they lack legal representation.
ILVP ensures people have a fair chance to be heard, protected, and remain with their loved ones.
We respectfully urge you to advance invest in ILVP. Thank you.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
I'll go ahead and call additional speakers.
NIO, like Castillo Center, sent to ourio.
Patricia Mondragon.
A Sue's 19-Gay goes monos.
I've caught your name. Please come forward.
Hello. Sorry. My name is Nicole Lillie.
I'm the Executive Director of our Time to Act.
We are a youth-led 501C-3-NOMP profit,
organizing powerful youth for an inclusive equitable and sustainable future.
I'm here today to urge this county to wire chase people in this budget and follow the recommendations
of the community budget alliance. We are in a very difficult time in San Diego and across the country,
people are being abandoned, our basic needs are not being met and it is more critical in this
budget cycle and in our local governments that are county and city show up for our people and make
that we close the gaps in health care and in housing and in all of the services that are so essential to everyone's daily lives.
So I strongly urge this body to adopt the recommendations of the community budget alliance and also support
the partnership for the Advancement of New Americans asks as well. Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning.
My name is Nayeli Castillo Santuario, and I'm an office assistant at the Mighty Metro Family
Resource Center here in downtown, which is sister offices with the Center City on 12th and
Imperial.
The new 100 humans are versus specialists will greatly help our operations, but we also need
more office assistance.
In May of this year, we received over 800 walk-in applications, but we only had between two
nine office assistance available at any time to register those applications.
The walk-in applications combined with the online applications totaled over 3,200 with
over 2,300 of those passing the initial screening and being referred for scheduling.
This is not a typical.
We receive thousands of applications each month, but we only have between 20 and 30 intake
workers consistently available to conduct interviews.
Having adequate staffing would reduce the stressful workloads of our OAS and HSSs, which
to reduce the number of errors being made,
which would reduce the extended wait times
that some customers experience.
Please help us help our community.
Thank you.
Thank you, I'll go ahead and call three additional speakers.
Again, if I call you name, please,
come forward and line up on the arrows.
Vanessa Melendrez, as me, Conterio Kubion,
Grady O'Brien.
How do supervisors, my name's Edsman,
I'm a resident of D4.
I'm an organizer for SC Pride,
and a member of the LGBTQI plus regional table
and the community budget alliance,
and speaking in support of the adoption of the county budget,
that fills the gap of our federal government
because left us.
That specifically means supporting the inclusion
of the UID, the ILDP and the evictions
diversion program.
And the most recent U.S. trans survey,
18% of trans people were identified to be unemployed,
with close to 70% experiencing some form of job discrimination.
With that in mind, please fund the services
that help not only prevent our eviction but also maintain a sense of economic justice with
trans people in mind. I would also like to shout out Pana's ask as well. Please support all of
them. Thank you so much. Thank you as next speaker is coming forward all in by three additional
speakers. Ashley McCollog, Huxley, Sondari and Karina Pue. I'm called your name please.
Good morning.
My name is Gradyo Brian and I live in District 4 and I'm an intern with students for economic justice.
I'm a San Diego City College graduate now heading to a four year university and I urge you to support the feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development
Are you deserve support and access to a future that treats them with care and love if we want those values to be reciprocated back into our community
We need to put them into our youth first giving more money to the sheriff does not make people feel safer
Thank you.
Thank you. Thanks, Speaker. Please
Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Ashley McCullough. I live in district four
and I'm a college student currently
in turning with the Center on Policy Initiatives.
I strongly support this revised budget in item number eight.
Specifically, the investment of a $250,000
feasibility study to explore the creation
of a department of youth development.
My environment growing up could have pushed me down the wrong path,
but thanks to mentors with the my community,
I'm standing here today.
Culturally relevant, trauma-informed community
lead care and services is how San Diego can ensure the future of our youth because young
people in San Diego County deserve care.
And not criminalization or confinement. I'd like to thank the youth advocates and the community organizations
to help push for this investment in youth. I'd lastly like to thank Supervisors Monacoma, Gummaree Step and Ploma Geary for their commitment to a safer and healthier communities.
Their leadership reminds us change is important and shows our youth their voices matter.
Good morning Board of Supervisors.
My name is Huxley Alexander Cideri and I live in District 1, and I'm here with the Center
of Policy Initiatives and I'm accompanying the Community Budget Alliance.
As a student and someone who aims to be a youth organizer, I've seen how many people in
communities I have lived in across California, such as Palm Desert and here are trying to
build stable lives while dealing with immigration fears and a lack of accessible support.
So it's just why I urge you to approve the recommended budget, especially the Immigrant Legal Defense Program.
As a key border city, it is our duty to welcome those seeking asylum, safety, and citizenship
by meeting anyone where they are at in the legal process of that comes when navigating a status here.
The right-to-do process applies to every person in U.S. jurisdiction and requires an attorney to help those in the system,
which is why I urge the county to expand funding 13 million to meet the high demand the service provides.
Our urge you to care for human beings looking to build upon the American dream.
We have sold the world for 250 years.
Thank you.
As the next speaker is coming forward on by three additional speakers, NSW, Chikus, Chikus,
Chikus, Chikus, Kuhina, Grace Hardy, and Gladys Dougadio.
Good morning, Supervisors.
My name is Karina Pue.
My pronouns are she, her.
And I'm here today on behalf of the San Diego LGBT Community Center and a member of the
today we're asking you all to vote and support of our most vulnerable neighbors in San Diego.
Many LGBTQ plus folks flee their countries here to escape homophobia, transphobia and
other persecution. Our entire immigrant community deserves access to due process so we're
asking the county to adopt a budget with a full allocation to the ILDP. In addition, please
fund programs like the eviction diversion program, the Department of Youth Development,
and
that are disproportionately accessed by our LGBTQ plus communities, as our communities
overrepresented among many of these underserved populations.
The budget must be a document that reflects equitable investments into our San Diego region.
Thank you.
Okay.
The next speaker.
Hello.
I'm Grace Hardy, and intern with Children First San Diego, and District 3 resident.
I first want to thank you for supporting Healthy Development Services and Funding Discussions,
especially with tobacco settlement funds and being open to learning more about the decline
prevention and early intervention services for kids in San Diego. My families live in San Diego after
moving many times. My dad is active duty in the Navy so I've been in San Diego and out of San
Diego and I've come back again in about a million times. I grew up overseas both in the United States
and on different bases internationally and I could tell growing up the communities and countries
that prioritize kids were fun and secure and now that I'm old enough to reflect on my upbringing,
I realize that those communities were also sustainable.
I speak to you with concern regarding the lack of prioritization and funding for kids, especially
regarding their safety and health.
For example, as I'm sure you're aware, there has been a decline in program revenue for
first five San Diego as the funding reliance on attacks on tobacco, which people are just simply
buying less of.
In 2016, and 2017, the operating budget for first five San Diego was right under $43 million,
and the $2026 to $27 budget is right at $26 million, not only is it the $26 million.
I just got a lot.
Thank you.
Yes, of course.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning.
My name is glad to welcome you.
And I live in Eskundi, though.
This county has identified a $300 million need to protect the natural lands that clean our
air, filter our waters and protect all the species found here and nowhere else on earth.
And yet this budget invests zero dollars for that purpose.
Meanwhile, the county may be spending money on a illegal mass surveillance program.
I cannot confirm whether Flock Safety is still in this revised budget because it was never made
a line item.
In a budget this tight, San Diego's deserve to know exactly what is being funded and at what
level.
The Board must increase transparency in next year's budget process, especially for controversial
line items.
I respectfully request the Board redirect any and all Flock funding in this budget to conserve
San Diego's wildlands for future generations.
I also stand in solidarity with the request of the San Diego Community Budget Alliance,
And I thank you for investments in nutrition security, health care, and the youth feasibility study.
Please protect these commitments.
Thank you.
Before the next speaker begins, I'll write three additional speakers.
Suhi Niyato, Ian Sorillo, Courtney Baltiski.
Good morning, supervisor. My name is Anastasia Chistuhina.
I live in District 3 and I'm a small business owner.
I urge you to stand with immigrant communities and approve the proposed budget for the immigrant
legal defense program and fully funded. My family came to the United States from Ukraine in
2020 after Russia's full scale invasion. As someone who is rebuilding their life here
and still navigating the immigration system, I know how complicated and stressful it can be.
Even for people who legally present in the country, when someone faces detention or immigration
precedence access to Etonia can make all the difference.
No one should have to face complex legal system
alone simply because they can't afford legal help.
Immigrants legal defense program helps protect
due process and ensure that vulnerable people have access to
legal representation when they need it most.
I respectfully urge you to support their
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning.
My name is Haneeto.
I live in District 8.
I am a CIU local 221 union member, which is part of the community budget alliance.
I've had the privilege to work for the county of San Diego Health and Human Services Agency
under the Department of South Sefficiency Services for four years.
My duty as a human service specialist is to provide services for those members of the community
that are in dire need of assistance, basic necessity such as food and health care.
This brings me to the reason for my participation today, which is to bring awareness
of the impacts of HR-1, has had on self-sufficiency services.
With the current budget, re-adjustment services such as CalFresh, MediCal, have severely
be impacted.
We are able to see this through the numerous customer interactions where the predominant
emotional expression consists of anxiety, fear, frustration, and despair.
And I'll share it throughout the county of San Diego.
As an Expeakers, coming forward on-vite three-dustle speakers, Oliver Twist, allegedly
Audra, Natalie Rashke, come on down.
Thank you.
Good morning, honorable supervisors.
My name's Courtney Baltiske with the William C.A. of San Diego County.
We're also leaders and partners in the Children's First Collective, the TU1 River Coalition.
We want to thank you for all of the hard work of staff and the supervisors and teams throughout the budget process.
We've had incredible experiences lifting important issues with each of your five teams across this fiscal year.
Everything from safety around water and ocean side to greater awareness about bike safety.
But we still have a significant need for guaranteed funding for some of the most important health and safety issues in San Diego.
That includes dedicated funding for child care and safe spaces for our youngest learners.
And it also includes the Tijuana River Valley, which we know will be considered out of reserves.
It's extremely disappointing to hear that some of the state budget asks are falling through.
And we need guaranteed funding to end this pollution crisis.
Thank you.
Next speaker please.
Hi.
Good morning.
Oliver Twistie, K.A.
Mary Davis.
Thank you for the report and for the emphasis on the balance budget.
However, what goes on said was, in fact, it's a services deficit and I would actually
like to see a chart that shows that things that you're aspiring to do where you're following
short instead of covering it up and acting like that there is not a gap there.
So let's be honest about that.
Also, I would like you to do whatever the city of San Diego is do.
You do the opposite.
Stop the progressive pipe dreams and peppery.
We need to return to pragmatism, where we are focused
on a mazlo hierarchy that we are funding.
Our needs and infrastructure first.
In particular, the VISTA detention facility
is critical.
What happened with the Lake Hodges Dam
when they put that off, it went from 275 million
to now estimated 700 million.
You are only going to get yourself
in a further hole in the ground.
Also, I'm here to advocate for the unincorporated areas start showing love to La Presse that there are very underserved community. Thank you
Hi good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Lilliana Soliano. I am the director of policy at youth will wear youth advocacy organization
And we're also a member of the community budget alliance also as myself. I live in district four
But we do work across the county my vision for the county is one where every young person has everything
that they need to be happy, healthy, and reach the full potential.
And that's why I urge you today to approve the recommended budget, which includes full funding
for key people first investments, such as Nutrition Security, Demigration Legal Defense Program,
a feasibility study to create a department of youth development and funding for the global
village.
These are kinds of investments that keep people supported, housing connected to opportunities
throughout the county.
But while our community struggle to afford housing, health care, and basic means, many continues
to pour into criminalization from pop 36 to share of overtime to build more jail capacity.
And that doesn't support young people directly.
So I urge you to choose care over criminalization, invest in the services and opportunities
of people thinking.
Thank you.
I'd like to invite four or three additional speakers.
Maria Alina Greenman-Lind, Bell in Hernandez, and Marco Espinoza.
I have caught your name, please come forward.
Hi.
Thank you for hearing me today, Natalie Rashty, District 3.
I just wanted to share some of the things that you have to deal with when you're
in-house, let alone all the other things.
During my time of being homeless, this is what I was dealt with.
These are all tickets.
These are just some of them.
So add that on to working the 20 hours a week, trying to get sleep,
dealing with life, and this.
This is just some. These are tickets for being parked.
You can get ticketed for so many things, and now we have to worry about how we're going to get food.
I have an EHV that gets cut in November. I will be homeless again in November for children.
Thank
you.
Good morning, County Board of Supervisors. My name is Maria Lennag,
Greenland and it's honor to be here with all of you.
I had to speech ready, but something that really caught my eye and I would like for all of us three
such are these three beautiful visions of San Diego County, of what San Diego County could look like.
But what we do see missing are two juvenile detention facilities that represent who are youth are currently right now.
So, I want to ask you guys, every time you guys come in here to make a decision, specifically for the $250,000 adoption for the feasibility study.
Think about, is this really who San Diego County is and do we want to reach that position?
I ask you to please take into heart the youth voices that need to be heard.
Their experiences need to be uplift and created better resources.
And I truly believe this $250,000 feasibility study will create this vision into our reality of San Diego County.
Thank you.
Good morning.
Supervisors.
My name is Bill and Hernandez.
Here speaking on behalf of the mid city community advocacy network, mid city can.
And I want to say thank you for being receptive to our students, the youth, and the adults
who have been here to speak for the Department of Youth Development.
I know structural changes at the county can be difficult for us to come on board for, but
This is just an initial study for us to discuss.
What are the needs in the county and what needs to be done
because we know the youth need greater support.
So we look forward to working with you in the coming months
to structure that study in a way that makes sense
and see what we can do next in our county.
And thank you again.
Thank you.
Speak for please.
Good morning, Marcos Penosa.
Madam Chair and baby, less than 30 seconds.
Nice surprise though.
Yes, motion approved.
And I'm glad to see the words of heard from earlier this year.
We'll one about the feasibility study for the child development department.
Is it becoming anything?
So excited to see that.
Thank you very much.
You'll back.
Thank you.
As an ex-peakers coming forward, I'll invite three additional speakers, Jerry Hall,
Harohen, Harry Haram, and Jesse Schmitti.
Nine plus billion dollars, and we only get one minute to address the negligence that takes place,
and I have significant concerns about you developing a youth development department.
When I have first-hand witnessed the crimes against children that you guys are engaged in by ripping families apart
and seeing that children are adoptable, and so that's a reason to adopt them out, not to
protect them, but because they're adoptable, it's a very lucrative business, and you're
very much engaged in terminating parental rights in fact.
Act, I know a handful of children, including Malaya and Ziya Robinson, Omar, Bayani, Whalen. There are so
many children that are set to lose their families, and this is the kind of stuff that you engage in.
You're lucky that's not your daughter, Tara. Do give her a kiss.
I'll speak up,
please.
Okay.
Good morning.
Supervisors, chair and baby.
And the community.
I speak to her, Judith.
I'm sorry, my name is Jerry Hall of District 1.
I applaud your spending the money to conduct a feasibility study for the youth development
department, and much like that department, though, there's opportunities to save tens and tens
of millions, if not hundreds of millions in our public safety system, and if we have to
look through this process, it's frustrating because it's a brief process where we can
need to get community support and get everybody's attention, and these are things that should
happening in a planning process throughout the year. So, right now, our behavioral services,
we put out a budget in April, and here we are 60 days later, after all the community
meetings in the programs and services budget to that change by $1.
Speaker.
Good morning, Chair and Supervisors. My name is Jesse Schmitti,
State Policy Manager for Alliance in Diego. Thank you all for working with our
organizations and coalitions as we close discussions around the county budget.
We respectfully urge your support for both the immigrant legal defense program and the eviction
diversion program.
Here in San Diego, we are on the front lines of immigration policy.
We've seen civil immigration arrest increase by more than 1,500 percent, while detentions
at Otaimesa has served dramatically.
At a time when families are facing unprecedented uncertainty, access to legal representation
is not a luxury.
It is a matter of due process.
The immigrant legal defense program ensures that people are not forced to navigate a complex
legal system alone and help keep families together during some of the most difficult times of their lives.
Likewise, eviction of urgent program helps prevent homelessness before it actually happens.
It keeps families housed, reduces strain on public systems, and is far less costly than responding after someone loses their own.
These programs reflect the values of our region, fairness, stability, and dignity, and I thank you all for your attention.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Arohan Hariharan.
I'm a recent graduate of UC San Diego.
And I am one of the housing justice directors of our time to act.
I'm here today to emphasize the need of support for community from the local government.
And you know, ask that the local government does what it can to help them with their most basic needs.
I also want to help the asks of the community budget alliance.
and the partnership for the advancement of new Americans.
And most importantly, emphasize increased support for the department of youth development.
In these times, I think it is most important that Sandagans can depend on their local government
and that you can continue to support them and increase support for them as much as possible.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
As an ex-peakers coming forward on by three additional speakers, Casey Shirk, Karina Zavala,
C.K. Kalderon Vargas.
I've called you.
Please come forward.
Good morning.
My name is Jesús Martín Gallegos Muños.
I'm a community organizing coordinator at the Chicano Federation and a member of the Community
Budget Alliance.
And representation of the Alliance.
I'm here to highlight the messages our community has already mentioned.
We need a budget that prioritizes youth.
Immigrant families, tenant protections, and environmental justice.
We need a San Diego that truly protects our loved ones,
and I please ask you to prioritize our community members.
Fund tenant protections for immigrant families, fund ILDP,
and start the process for the Department of Youth Development.
As youth youth are not only to present the future,
we are the present, and if we want to start advocating for our society,
we need to start prioritizing our youth.
Thank you.
Thank you, no.
Speak to your place.
Hello.
My name is Karina Salala.
I am 18 years old and I work.
I'm a part of my city-can, and it includes a curse ration.
And I'm here to give my call me on why you guys should support the YD.
Like I said before, I have been firmly incarcerated.
And I was a dual status youth.
And I'm here today to say that the YD will be so helpful for our youth because no kids should be locked down and no kids should be in a facility and anything too is that this will help us through so much not just one place in the Canis and Legal but all over the Canis and Legal because we all know that our youth do need help and we all know that we can't do this all by ourselves.
And we need this to happen.
Thank you very much for this time.
Thank you.
Go ahead and call three additional speakers.
Marco Guajardo, Alejandro Martinez, Fernanda Flores.
Hello, good morning.
My name is Casey.
I am a Human Services Specialist.
And I have been for two years.
And I am a proud SCIU-221 member.
Part of my job is providing the community care
through government programs, such as Calfresh and Amaticao,
for many of my clients receiving these benefits
This is the difference between staying housed and living on the streets.
I would like to iterate that human services specialist, self-sufficiency services, HHSA,
we are public safety too.
HR1 has had a pretty big impact across the board for these programs, from evaluating for
time restrictions on CalFresh, and evaluating the elderly and disabled property for
Medicare.
Our process for providing these necessary structures of care timely has taken a hit.
We acknowledge the county for trying to mitigate these impacts, and we want to stress the importance of adequate funding for human services specialists and OA positions.
I would like to bring up that my facility, the National City Family Resource Center, we are currently down 12 positions, 12 HSS positions.
We are having issues with the...
Okay.
Thank you.
Next speaker.
Good morning, board, or afternoon, or still morning.
My name is Marco Wachardo, resident of District 4.
I'm an intern with Students for Economic Justice
at the Center on Policy and Initiatives.
I'm here to urge the board to unanimously adopt
the revised budget, specifically the inclusion
of a $250,000 feasibility study,
to explore the creation of the department
for youth development as late out in an item eight.
For us, youth development is public safety.
Healthy communities are rooted in young people, feeling safe, and having much more than their basic needs made.
When young people's futures are protected, public safety is fortified and crime rates go down.
Currently San Diego's juvenile justice system is punitive and causes real harm.
Youth outcomes are worse in the through our current approach, and our youth deserve a care first model,
where jails and incarceration are the absolute last forms of mediation.
It's vital to recognize that San Diego is currently engaged in the committee.
Thank you.
Good morning, my name is Fernanda Flores.
I'm the political director with IOTC, the International Alliance of the Atrical Station,
Police, Local 122.
I am here to speak on behalf of IOTC 122, the San Diego Entertainment Union Coalition,
and over 20 organizations that have endorsed the film initiative.
To name a few, it's business for goods and naval arts matters.
The East County Chamber of Commerce sent you a tourism authority.
We want to highlight the allocation of establishing to establish a film office.
And while this is not the end merely the beginning,
we want to think the leadership and the vision from this board
to invest in San Diego's, during my time,
I was able to witness behind this scene film production,
and we have so much talent here.
San Diego's already, they're hungry
to create quality life-lunker readers.
Business is already to produce and service.
Everything that it takes around film.
So thank you so much for your leadership,
and we look forward to working with you
at the next steps.
Thank you.
Thank you, like to call three additional speakers.
There's Chloe Medina, Vanessa Gonzalez, and Chris Oforo Gomez.
Thank you, good morning Board of Survisors.
My name is Alejandra, I'm with the mid city can.
You've just this momentum team and CBA.
I first and foremost want to thank Supervisor Palomagir,
Supervisor Monica Montgomery Step.
Supervisor Tara Lawson, Remer, and Supervisor Joel Desmond for their support
on this $250,000 feasibility study for Department of Youth Development.
One of our youth was I, but I'll make it here on time today so she wasn't able to speak so I'll be sharing her statement really quickly.
Good morning Board of Surveysers, I'm Shama, Shama, also known as Shimi, and I'm part of District 4.
The reason I myself was pushing so hard for this is because I was part of the system I was affected by it.
I feel as if sending us straight into the cell doesn't solve what is wrong with this mentally.
It creates a cycle of trauma that gets passed down to the next person.
Funding us all funding us will help with not only trauma, but our communities that we are sent back to.
The trauma that is caused inside, we take it out, but everyone has different ways of showing it, working with lived experience and people that are like me actually help some more than people who aren't lived experience, who haven't been through what I've been through.
We hope.
Thank you.
Next speaker.
Good morning.
My name is Iike Calaromba.
My pronouns are A. Yes, she heard.
I'm the director of Latina Services from the San Diego LGBT Community Center.
And I'm here for asking for help for you to support the final
visit and funding of the County Immigration Legal Defense Program.
We have trans clients that have lived in San Diego for 20 years that were detained and
the ILDP helped them get back to their houses, to their homes, to their community.
The ILDP is helping so much please fully fund it.
Thank you.
Next speaker.
Good morning, supervisors.
My name is Chloe Medina and I have been an educator for over 20 years.
I currently live in District 2 and work in District 5 and I'm here to demonstrate my support for the revised budget.
Specifically the investment of $250,000 to conduct a feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development.
I began my career in education with the goal of supporting system impacted youth and their families and that continues to be my priority.
The future overall health safety and well-being of our communities will be determined by how well our children are taking care of today.
What has been confirmed for me do many experiences and what the studies and data also backup is that the current system does not work.
In fact, it perpetuates harm. Young folks are more responsive and more capable of growing into their full potential when they are met with love and support rather than threats and harsh consequences.
That is why we need to invest in care for our community-led approaches, we're culturally relevant, trauma-informed services are accessible to all.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning Board of Supervisors. My name is Vanessa Asosana Gonzalez, and I live in District 5.
We need to allocate the $250,000 for a feasibility study to further creation of Department of Youth Development.
As someone who works directly with youth and residential treatment, supporting youth with significant mental health and behavioral health challenges,
I have seen how quickly a young person can be labelled as a problem when they really need a support safety and positive youth development and experiences.
Many of the young people are worked with have experience trauma and stability and system involvement with punitive responses that often deepen those challenges rather than address them at the root cause.
San Diego's juvenile justice system is causing harm and worsens outcomes for many youth,
young people deserve a care first model that prioritizes healing, mental health services,
community support, and opportunities for growth.
Jails and incarceration should be the last form of intervention, not the foundation of our
response. Investing in Youth Development is investing in public safety. Thank you to supervisors,
Monica Montgomery's step in Paloma Aguilar for their leadership and commitment.
Thank you.
Speaker, please.
Good morning.
Supervisor.
My name is Christopher Agomas.
I'm a district one resident and an organizer with a San Diego and Imperial County's
Labor Council.
We represent over 130 unions and 200,000 working people across these counties.
And today I'm speaking on behalf of many of these members that have both directly and indirectly
experience the cruelty of the federal administration's immigration enforcement
and asking that you fully fund legal defense program.
This violence has fallen on the backs of hardworking people who are simply trying to survive and make ends meet.
And we believe that in this critical moment, it is incumbent upon local government to do everything in its power to protect its constituents.
This funding, along with other items in the package that deal with things like eviction diversion and nutrition access and the youth feasibility study are avenues to just that. So we urge your support. Thank you.
Thank you.
I'll call three additional speakers.
How am I, are you, Sufi?
Caitlin Radigan and Lucky Aiden.
At the reception of that I go in with the Lion San Diego members of the San Diego Immigrant
Rights Consortium and the Community Budget Alliance.
We thank the CAO and supervisors for fully funding the Immigrant Legal Defense Program to
keep it operational.
This is a critical due process investment, the Reflex San Diego County's commitment to fairness,
dignity, and justice.
As immigration enforcement increases across our region, families are now
We are investigating one of those complex legal systems often alone and in detention. Just today, the Supreme Court issued a couple of decisions that are going to make things even harder and increase enforcement.
The ILDP ensures that people have access to legal representation when they need it most. It means keeping families together, protecting due process and strengthening the conditions for immigrant communities to thrive.
We also ask you to continue investing in prevention over punishment, including $3 million in
eviction diversion program to help keep families housed.
Please invest in programs that protect human rights while ensuring accountability
and transparency.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Okay.
Good morning.
My name is Lucky Aiden with Hannah and the Community Budget Alliance and I'm a resident of
District 4.
I'm here in support of funding for the Immigration Legal Fund Program and the GoVivilage.
Supporting the GoVivilage project will help bring life to a vision that already exists beyond housing.
It is helping create a community where families can put down roots, build economic opportunities and thrive.
The GoVivilage will provide over 444 largely affordable homes and create pathways for small business owners through our GoVivilage.
It doesn't need it, it doesn't need a place where people can live, work, and thrive and connect together.
With your support, you are going to be expanding on the impact and creating a long lasting asset for generations to come.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning, chair and supervisors.
My name is Caitlyn Radigan.
I'm a resident of District 2.
And I currently serve as the statewide policy manager for California Youth Connection.
I'm here today in support of the revised budget that includes the $250,000 feasibility study
for the establishment of a department of youth development.
I think that this is more than a study.
It's really an opportunity for us to intentionally invest in our young people.
We've seen this model work well in Los Angeles and our youth are so incredibly resilient and full of potential.
but they're also navigating poverty, housing instability, trafficking, violence, and so many other barriers.
And no young person should really have to come overcome all of that alone.
A department of youth development would create a coordinated approach to investing in youth,
rather than expecting different agencies and system providers working in silos.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, I'd like to invite three additional speakers, Sarah Gonzalez, Rachel Osano Castro, and
Fortuneata Pena.
Good morning, supervisors, my name is Ian Saruelo.
I am with the Asia Pacific American Labor Alliance and also the chair of the San Diego Immigrant
Rights Consortium.
First, I would like to thank the Board for supporting the funding of the Immigrant Legal
Defense Program, I am a practicing immigration attorney, and I defend many
community members from deportation every day, I interact with San Diego resident immigrant working
class families who are suffering from the cruel mass deportation policy of this federal government.
For over a year now, the Trump administration has violently separated families,
kidnapped community members, surveilled and racially profiled black and brown communities.
At the night, you process and violated human rights of our communities.
This day, LDP has provided life-changing legal support to hundreds of San Diego families
caught in this new main policies, lastly, I implore to invest more in our youth, our
workers, our immigrant and refugee communities.
Thank you so much.
Hello, good morning Board of Supervisors.
My name is Sara Gonzalez.
I am a sociologist and education.
I live in District 1 by my service schools and youth from San Isidro all the way to Ocean
side.
So today I am presenting myself as the professional that I am to let you know that I didn't get here on my own.
I was sort of several interventions in the South Bay that allowed me to be able to get into higher education.
So therefore I wouldn't be here if it wouldn't be for those interventions in the past.
And nowadays we need more of those interventions for our youth.
So therefore I want to express my support for the revised budget on item eight.
specifically for the investment of the $250 study, a feasibility study for the DYD.
So research shows that youths mentorship reduces risk of it is rate increase pathways for
wellness.
Especially for youth that has been impacted by the system.
Thank you, I'd like to call the final two speakers, and Sermio Estrada and Moohamed.
Good morning. Good morning. My name is fortunate not a pain yet.
Can you hold that microphone down a little bit?
Thank you.
I'm sorry I'm short.
Okay. My name is fortunate a pain yet.
And I live in district five.
And I say SEI, you local 21, I unit member.
I have worked for the county of San Diego for eight years.
And I work in the tax collection department.
As a worker in the Treasury tax collector department,
We have concerns regarding staffing challenges and work-loads because it's efficient staffing is important for effective public service.
One example, there's one person's assigned to deliver mail to the departments.
On many occasions, this person gets pulled to go answer phones on the customer service line,
and that prevents them from delivering the mail to us on time.
And a lot of these calls that their answering as taxpayers obviously upset that the claims
haven't been processed.
We support this proposed budget, which includes five additional positions.
Thank you for investing in the staffing needed to support workers and serve our community
effectively.
Our community's deserve safety, dignity and opportunity to thrive.
Please continue to invest these services.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning.
My name is Rachel Azano Castro.
I'm a resident of District 4, although me and my family have lived in all five districts in San Diego.
I am a business owner, an employee, a homeowner, an entrepreneur, an activist,
been proud to call San Diego home since 2008.
My family's been in this country for generations.
I stand with refugees and immigrants.
I would like to thank the leadership.
I'm also with Panna and the CUNY Budget Alliance and many other coalitions.
I'm here to speak in favor of this budget and to thank the Board,
Supervisors for investing in quality of life for all Sandiagans, and I mean all, when this
County invests wisely, which I believe it is, trying to do, it lifts up long-time residents
and newcomers alike. That's the San Diego I get believe in, that's the San Diego I want to live in,
and that's the leadership I'm grateful to see from this board. I urge you to continue to support,
continue supporting the immigrant defense funds and the eviction diversion program,
which help keeps families safely housed, protects vulnerable residents, and strengthens our communities.
These are not just programs, these are lifelines.
And when we're working hard, we can work together.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
I'm setting my check of strata with the San Diego Building and Construction
Trade Council.
We have members across this county.
I'm here to be in Solidarity with CBA with SCIU Local 2-2-1 with everybody here that
is asking you to meet what is clearly barbarism from the Trump administration and his Republican
and neighbors in Congress through things like massive tax cuts with HR1 to meet that head
on with good governments and with moral clarity and that's what this budget is.
This is an opportunity to flip the script for local governments about what is public safety.
It's investing in food security, it's investing in homes for San Diego, it's investing
in an immigration defense fund that keeps San Diego against with their families when a government
is trying to actually rip them apart.
These things have consequences for our communities and this board, this budget that you all, we've
voted on is the first step and then answering that head on and please make sure this goes forward.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning.
My name is Muhammad Omar.
I'm with the partnership of the advancement of new Americans and I'm also a district resident
of District 4.
I'm here today to express my strong support for continue funding of the global village, the
addiction division program and the immigrant legal defense fund.
The global village is more than an affordable housing development.
It is a long-term investment in housing stability, economic opportunity and community resilience
with over 144 deeply affordable homes, culture and civic spaces and a trusted community
hub.
It was served families for generations to come.
At the same time, the addiction division program helps keep families safely housed and
prevent homelessness before it begins while the immigrant legal defense, when it
is sure that vulnerable residents have access to legal representation and due process
together, this investment strength and housing stability, public safety, emergency preparedness
and economic opportunity for all syndicants. I respectfully urge you to continue supporting
this critical opportunity. Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good morning, Board.
I'm proud to be part of a community that has shown up time and time again to engage in this budget, and I look forward to doing it again.
Working class communities, communities of color and young people help shape this budget, and I'd like to acknowledge the board and
CAO team that listened when San Diego spoke clearly about what they need to thrive.
We urge you to approve their revised recommended budget, but our work is far from done.
The county has taken important steps forward in promoting workers' rights and fighting wage theft.
Given the scale of which theft and how impact Sandiagan's ability to pay for rent, food and
other living expenses, when your continued leadership and partnership to strengthen
ulse and make our county one where all working families can thrive.
Over $2 billion for criminalization, prop36, and systems that harm our youth do not help
us achieve that vision.
We must invest in real safety, which comes from stability, opportunity, and dignity.
Thank you.
Next speaker please.
All right.
Good morning.
My name is Aaron Huy.
I'm president and co-founder of Carpidium, I'll reach with youth mentoring and organization
in North County that he's social and emotional learning to restore the practice.
I'm part of district five.
I stay in here today, not just as a community member, but as someone who was incarcerated
that's 16 years old and spent the next 27 and a half years inside the system we're talking about.
I speak for lived experience and research when I say we deserve better.
San Diego's juvenile justice system was still rooted in punishment and punishment has never healed the young person and didn't heal me
But change my life with education and mentorship and accountability and people who believe I was more than my worst moment
That's what the Department of Youth Development represents a care force model that actually works
Organizations like
Carpadeum outreach community wraparound
Miss Eddie Ken
Show us possible when we invest and you face that of incarcerated
We work directly with the young people across North County,
helping our building most known intelligence leadership
and community connection.
The things that truly prevent harm.
So thank you, Ben.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I'd like to invite for Ramah Abdi, and then do a final call
for the speakers I previously called,
Vanessa Melendra's,
and how am I already a SEFI.
I've caught your name and please come forward.
Good morning.
My name is Rahma Abdi.
I'm the Director of Organizing with Pana
and also a member of CBA.
Thank you for supporting global village
in mid-Street and Diego.
Your support means a lot to refugee and immigrant families,
like mine.
Today you're not just helping build a project,
you're helping build a legacy.
Many years from now, families may not remember every meeting
or vote, but they will remember the leaders who believe in them.
They will remember that your investment in places where
family and family can find support and information for opportunity.
The global village will be there, will be that buildings.
It will be a place of hope, it will be a place where families can learn and connect and grow.
A place where every people can get information in their language, they understand.
They place where no one feels left behind.
It means our family will be better prepared during the emergency.
Your investment today will help families for many years to come.
It's important. It's important not only stop the, this generation. Thank you. In terms of, thank you.
Next speaker please.
Hello, my name is Hamira. I used to feel the partnership for the
advancement of new Americans, which is a member of the Community Budget Alliance CBA. I'm here to
urge you all to approve this budget. It will provide much needed funding to so many projects, including
the Immigration Leads Defense Project, and I particularly want to express my appreciation
to Supervisor Monica Montgomery-Stack, Lawson-Memer and a Gide for your support of the
Global Village Project, which will benefit the entire region for generations to come.
This project will not only build much needed, deeply affordable homes, it will create long-term
investment in historically underserved communities while this project is in the choice
Creek Quarter in the mid-city region. It will serve the entire county. There is a huge
need for trusted culturally appropriate spaces and decides to turn emergency relief. So thank
you so much.
Thank you.
Well now here from the individuals that request to speak by phone. Again, when it is your
turn to speak, you will be unmuted and you will hear a recording that will tell you to
begin your comments. We will start with our first caller.
I'm 35 notes that you want to spend 9 million on permanent road division this year, but
there are only 2 million next out of fiscal year.
You want to...
Infleds are now coming any time of years of this doesn't make sense.
Just to fix these yourselves, instead of creating paradises of the homelanders, it's don't know
about, and then using them like your personal piggy bank. Many of the residents are lowering
them, and this makes mockery of your commitment to helping lowering people and keeps them down
are a scrims open. After all this, the revised budget does not take into account the
control impact where I did the governor's may revise and the Fed budget protecting our
nylon diet gas. And our economy is not going up at the end of the day.
You can see the next color.
Um, I'm slow up here.
It's amazing how, you know, it's the ill informed public,
begging the out of touch. Most disturbing things that I've heard in this meeting is from the
youth thing. We can't do it all by ourselves. Another saying, we believe it is in combat for our
local government to do everything in its power to protect its constituents. Mission accomplished
government has successfully brainwashed and programmed the people into fully believing that they can't
it without it. The same system that creates the problem is looked up to and sought out our
health and resolutions. Not only sick, but it's beyond abusive. And most, having a clue,
unfortunately, that this board is responsible for the majority of, if not all our county budget
issues. The presentation mentioned stewardship, you are delusional board, if you believe you are
We were more.
Good
morning, my name is Becky Rapp, and as you adopt this $9 billion budget, I urge
you to ensure that marijuana-related expenditures receive the same level of scrutiny and accountability
as any other county program.
Over the past several years, significant staff time and public resources have been devoted
to marijuana policy, regulation, and social equity planning.
Taxpayers deserve a clear accounting of how much money has been spent.
At the same time, I encourage the county to invest more in prevention.
If we're serious about supporting youth health and well-being,
marijuana prevention education should be incorporated into the department of youth development.
Use young people today are facing increasingly potent marijuana products, rising rates of mental health challenges and exposure to messages that normalize drug use.
Prevention is far less costly than treatment, emergency response or addressing.
Good
morning, my name is Ibrahim Nuru. I'm a business owner. I'll say a word this. I would like to talk in favor of supporting the budget approval. I just want to give a testimony when we are in trouble with my landlord.
I have to go to Pana for a legal support and they found us a person who could do pro bono
because we can't afford it and this is a clear and clear way of supporting immigrant business owners
also providing a American business system by giving them what's missing on them.
I support strongly this project as well because it means a small support so that we could exceed
taxid and American economy so that would be extra food business owners helping our community
to grow up, flourish in American system. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Well, here from the next caller.
Hey, and Joe,
Propagers, it's truth, overpaid, Monica and many.
Evan says that there's no deficit with an over-inflated budget of $9.1 billion,
yet they've rated our reserves and follow money to their private campaign coffers.
We need less staff and salaries and more CRT and fire.
The thickest long neglected VISTA gels only getting a measly $3 million while union
campaign funders and say you got $14.4 million of our tax dollars.
You sued the HR for you allowed VISTA to deteriorate and inmates the sufferer and
deplorable conditions.
With child abuse allegations at the East, Mesa facility and
Polinsky hit for crips.
Unlike the building construction trades count of lies, real public safety
foreign mitigation, more firefighting helicopters, brush management, and better fire station
conditions.
Instead of wasting our cats or a suing fire truck companies, give out grants to cities to
improve conditions for firefighters.
And no to many sewage pipe extensions would benefit Mexico and no to giving illegal aliens
$12 million of our budget to protect criminals like the Skumbag and killed eight-year-old
Yeah, since he accrues in Julian, how about the 40-year-old?
Do you hear from your next caller?
Actor, I say on the Leo thing, only give legal money to the legal
emigrants that need lawyers. You're not giving any money to the
uh... is that any legal emigrant? So all the legal emigrants get their fees.
And then on the marijuana thing, let's keep it amongst the dark people.
less than we lose their souls. That's a good one. And the village thing, the
Immagent Village, makes you got a lot of cameras and a lot of license plates
readers, because the orange man is coming with eyes. And they also offer three
health care now in Mexico. So if you need health care, go to the Mexico, it's
free. And then also you get a thousand dollars if you self-deport. So don't
we're not trying to help you guys to get out of here.
Thousands of dollars to self-deport, and you can take your blue lines for free.
They won't give you a ticket if they're hadn't self-deployed, I don't know what you want to say.
Thank you for the next caller.
Pam, wow, and it's sticking to watch these activists begging for money to perpetuate chaos.
Many of the public speakers today must not have access to the use in this county.
This part has illusions that can manage the multi-pointed dollar budget even with extended
terms.
Immigrants, illegal, and otherwise are not new Americans, and should not be prioritized
over American citizens in need.
No money to the anti-American anti-syllentization global village.
Consider two Supreme Court Winston.
Migrants turn away the border before entering the U.S. are not entitled to apply for its
line-up.
And no judicial relief postponing the revocation of temporary protective status of Haitians
and Syrian nationals.
So therefore, no money for the illegal immigrant defense son, criminals must be deported
not cuddle.
Sorry, I'm walking him out of breath.
No funding to special privileges to individuals based on their sexual behavior and preferences.
But wrong enforcement from court services above all else, top television, American citizens,
Thank you.
Here from the next caller.
What's
cost Simpson? I'm 20 years old. I'm currently in Fresno right now, but I did
for five and a half years in East Mesa and in DJJ. I'm currently a student at Fresno State.
I lost my own business. I'm like graduated while I was incarcerated. And all these things
are positive because of the support that I did receive. But this support was not given
to me by the systems in place and by the structures that have been built within these systems.
organizations like the day was heart foundation, home girls look at our son, and SBFF South
Baker Community Services.
And people like that allow me to get to the place where I'm at now, with this funding
with this support.
All the youth who've been in the system as well, can get the same kind of support.
So I think we appreciate all of you guys for coming on here.
But I've really experienced how the support I have, I have the...
All the people around and everyone who's just essentially here do the right thing.
There's no negative or ulterior motives, there's no monetary gain from this, it's generally
just a support and the genuine desire to build people up in our communities.
So, thank you.
That's from the final color.
Beekman,
player beekman, I do not attend enough for the civilizing meetings.
I wish I did as a public, as a person from the public, I've been living in San Diego for
over four years now.
There has been many issues in dealing with a new jail in Santa Clara County where it comes
from San Jose area.
We're working on that a lot.
Nice dialogue today, asking that if you build the jail,
you have to be considering all the other social programs
we can be doing in this place.
That has to be first and foremost.
And with that, there's been so many deaths
that are county jail here in San Diego.
The same as in Santa Clara County.
Can you guys work together to solve this death issue
and learn to limit the amount of death
before anything you build in the future?
And good luck on budget practices in working towards social equity first and then austerity.
We're doing, we're learning good lessons in San Diego City.
Good luck in your efforts.
Thank you.
Chair Lawson, remember that concludes public comment on this item.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
First, I just want to take a moment to thank all of our public commenters and our speakers.
Thank you for your participation today.
But really, thank you for your participation in this entire budget process.
We've really been moving over the last number of years to try to create a more inclusive
budgeting process that creates avenues for input and participation in collaboration on
shaping our county's budget.
Much earlier in the process, so that hopefully by the time we get to this point that the budget
can reflect the major needs and priorities of our community.
Today, we are voting on a balanced budget, and I think it's a pretty extraordinary budget.
It protects the core services that Sandigons count on public safety, fire, emergency response, behavioral health, health care, food assistance, homeless services, veteran services, parks, libraries, arts, roads, and the day-to-day work of our county government.
This is a responsible budget, it's a balanced budget, I think it's a visionary budget, and it is a budget built for the moment that we are in.
Because this is not a normal year.
The Trump administration has been pushing costs and paperwork on accountants across America, including San Diego County, and this budget prepares us to respond.
We also continue to face a difficult environment of increasing costs, increasing crisis of rising gas prices, affordability, rising housing costs.
And this budget meets that moment.
The budget also protects public safety.
Public safety means firefighters with the staffing and the helicopters that they need when a wild fire breaks out.
We are adding fire suppression positions, helicopters and other safety equipment.
We have added 187 law enforcement and fire positions since joining the board.
This budget also protects due process, because I believe we should live in a country where
the government cannot pull you off the street, lock you up, away from your family, and force
to face deportation alone, simply because you cannot afford an attorney.
That is the rule of law, that is the constitution, and defending the constitution is public
safety.
This budget also cuts waste and inefficiencies and makes our government work better.
We are modernizing outdated phone systems, getting rid of fax machines, reducing leasing costs,
And doing so many other small adjustments so that our county can continue working in big ways.
I'd like to thank our county staff or CIO, I've been each Shelton and every department that worked with us on this budget.
It has not been an easy year, but we are stronger because of this hard work.
But I also would like to be honest that we are not out of the woods.
This budget gets us through this year and sets us on a good path for the next few years.
But coming years could be even harder, we're facing hundreds of millions of dollars in additional costs and cuts depending on what happens in both Washington and Sacramento.
So this vote is incredibly important, it's extraordinarily important.
But it is not the end of our work, it is the beginning of the next phase.
We will need to keep working, keep fighting, keep talking, and keep finding solutions for our community.
So I'm proud to support this budget, it is balanced, it's responsible, it invests in all the key programs that I think are so essential to protecting the most vulnerable members of our community and fighting for working families.
But we are not done with this work.
So I would like to begin our conversation discussion at the board by making a motion to number one, approve the CS Change Letter, which is recommendation number one.
Number two, approve the remaining staff recommendations listed in the item as recommendations three through five.
In item 8, and recommendations 1, and 3 in item 9, as well as all the staff recommendations in the fire protection district, like control district, and home supportive services, public authority, redevelopment, successor, agency, and the sanitation district agendas.
So again, that's a motion to approve the C.S. Change letter, which is recommendation 1, approve the remaining staff recommendations listed as recommendation 3 through 5 and 9 to 8, and recommendation 1 and 3 and 9 to 9.
and all the staff recommendations in fire protection district, flood control district, in
home support services public authority, redevelopment, success, or agency and sanitation
district agenda.
With that, I will turn the chair over to the vice chair.
Excuse me, turn the floor over to the vice chair.
Thank you so much, chair Lasson Rimmer.
I want to start by thanking our Chief Administrative Officer of Any Shelton, the Assistant
and Chief Financial Officer, Joan Bracky and the entire county team for their extraordinary
tremendous work in developing the revised recommended operational plan for the next two
fiscal years.
Also, I want to thank the county, Combs Department, specifically Tammy Glenn and Natalia
Hintrell for welcoming my team at the Budget Pop-up event at the Southeastern Liberal
Center and the Community Budget Open House at the County Operations Center.
Meeting full community engagement is essential to shaping a budget that reflects the diverse needs of our county.
And my staff had valuable conversations at both events, conversations that are vital to producing the budget before us today.
An important point the revised recommended budget makes clear is that it does not account for potential impacts from state or federal budget changes.
And it is important that we acknowledge that uncertainty directly.
The Federal Government's decision to prioritize tax cuts for the wealthy, resulting in significant
reductions to healthcare access and food assistance has put more than 314,000 of our county's
medical members and 93,500 calfresh recipients at risk of losing the support they rely on.
HR1 also known as the big beautiful bill is not a mistake. It is a deliberate policy choice
and a harmful one.
Taking food away from struggling families
is not build stronger communities.
It creates instability, hardship, and a risk,
and a greater risk of homelessness.
And taking healthcare away disproportionately
from low income households, immigrants, communities
of color, intensifies, intensifies,
existing inequities, worsens, health outcomes,
and pushes vulnerable families even closer to crisis.
There is nothing beautiful about making it harder for people to access the support that they need to remain healthy, housed, and fed.
While I cannot change the decisions made in Washington, we can act here at home and we have.
The budget before us today represents a proactive and essential response to protect our most vulnerable residents.
In the recommended budget, I've advocated for and supported 44 million, 44.7 million for
safety net services, advancing our equity and health priorities, 5 million for the global
village led by the partnership for the advancement of new Americans.
This is a critical investment in a network of wrap-around services and emergency services, including
housing opportunities for refugee immigrant and low-income families.
$600,000 for tenant legal aid services ensuring
ranchers facing housing instability have access to the legal support
necessary to remain safely housed and also just want to
bring up really quick advocacy for the public
defender's office to receive additional resources so they
can support when we are mandated to do to provide
and the defense for indigent community.
In the revised recommended budget,
I wholeheartedly support the $500,000 allocation
to mass fresco, the mass fresco plus program
to increase health access to healthy foods
and boost consumption, particularly among populations
with health disparities, the $250,000 allocation
for a feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development, a crucial first step toward
identifying the full range of youth development services that county can offer and understanding
how to better address disparities in youth outcomes across regions and demographics.
And the budgetary actions taken to formally establish the behavioral health services as a
standalone county department. When my office first advanced this major structural reform,
we did so recognizing that Sen Diego County needed a behavioral health system designed for today's
realities, not one built nearly three decades ago.
This separation is far more than an administrative reorganization, as an independent department
VHS will be better positioned to expand provider networks, improve care coordination,
modernized data and technology systems, enhance financial oversight and respond more rapidly
and effectively to the needs of individuals experiencing serious mental illness and substance
use disorders.
These are precisely the improvements the state now expects counties to deliver and my board
action paired with the budget re-alignment insurance San Diego is not only keeping pace
but leading the way.
All of these investments in our communities ensure that residents are not left behind and that
access to critical services is preserved, especially for individuals who may experience temporary
gaps in support created by federal, not local policy shifts.
From the moment we saw these threats emerging, we acted.
We developed a plan, secure the necessary resources, build strong partnerships, and today
through this budget we are delivering on that commitment.
Lastly, I have full confidence in our CAO, our incident command structure, and our Department
to finance to closely monitor and proactively address any emerging fiscal challenges.
Their leadership and fiscal stewardship ensure the county remains stable and prepared,
regardless of what adjustments may be required in the months of head ahead.
Thank you again to county staff for your countless hours of analysis and coordination that
went into producing this thoughtful and balanced budget.
And most importantly, thank you to the community.
Both to those that are here today and those who participate throughout this process.
Your engagement, your stories, your advocacy guides our priorities and hold us accountable.
We do our best work when it is in partnership with you and I'm grateful for your continued
involvement and willingness to shake the future of San Diego County and with that I
will second the most.
Thank you so much Vice Chair, Chair Pertima Giri.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I want to take a moment to tell you guys why I do this work.
I am the daughter of Mexican immigrants.
I grew up in two countries.
I know what it is to go without to see money and opportunity pass you by.
And that's why this budget is so important to me.
And I do want to preface my prepared remarks with the fact that they are blunt, but they're
also truthful.
And we need to acknowledge that truth because we are living in unprecedented times.
Never in my imagination ever did I expect us to be faced with cuts to entitlement programs
to safety net programs by this very administration.
South County has been overlooked for decades and I did not come to this job to accept
that I came to change it, and I do believe this budget reflects our values and prioritizes
people.
On the Tijuana River, we won real money and real action.
We secured $2.5 million to fix the Saturn Boulevard Pollution Site, one of the war sources
of toxic air in our community.
We committed $20 million to clean up the Tijuana River, and we created a new pollution
crisis chief to push state and federal leaders towards a permanent fix.
Our families deserve clean air, clean beaches, full stop.
On the cost of living, Donald Trump and the Republicans made a choice to take food assistance
and healthcare away from working families so they could give tax breaks to billionaires.
We had a choice to accept those cuts and let our neighbors go hungry or fight back.
I've seen what happens when families fall through their cracks.
when people go without food and housing and I refuse to let that happen on my watch.
We're hiring 120 new workers to help families keep their food and health benefits.
And we're putting $15.8 million of our own money to make up for what Trump and them took out.
On housing, we're putting over $22 million into building more affordable homes.
And we're setting aside $5 million specifically to help immigrant and low-income families because
And nobody should be pushed out of their community, especially when they help build it.
And we're also protecting our immigrant communities.
At a time when the Trump administration is escalating efforts to separate families and
destabilize communities, San Diego County's investment in immigrant legal defenses and
investment in the well-being of our region, providing legal representation helps protect
working families from unjust deportations, keeps parents with their children, and preserves
the social and economic stability that neighborhoods depend on.
When families can remain together, children experience greater security, workers can continue
contributing to our local economy, and communities remain stronger, safer, and more resilient.
I especially want to lift up the powerful youth advocacy we have seen throughout this budget
cycle.
Your determination delivered $250,000 for a youth development feasibility study, a major step toward
future department of youth development. Advocacy takes courage, even when it's just
speaking of the podium, and it has been inspiring to see our youth not only asking
for change but leading the call for it. These are not empty promises. This is real money
going to real solutions. Now, some out there, and we've heard the narratives and some
publications that we spend too much. I want to be honest about what spending less would
not meant. Seniors paying more for their bills. Families going hungry. People losing their
homes and the Tejwana River staying a miss. That's not being responsible. That's fighting
for the people. Also, this budget is balanced. Our reserves are 100% fully funded and we
have a top credit rating from every major financial agency in the country. We're not as
would say putting county finances at risk. We are investing in its solutions and there's a
big difference when it comes to that. And let me also say when right wing opponents
realize about this budget what they're really saying is that it's okay to leave people behind.
It's okay to leave people who look like me behind and that community behind. I think it's deeply
cynical. We see that from Donald Trump. We see that from the majority in Congress. We're seeing
here in San Diego, too. And it's not too inflame, it's to be clear because the people deserve
to know the truth. In summary, I would like to say that we are not done. The fight for a
clean Tijuana River continues. The cost of living crisis is not solved by any means. District one
families deserve their fair share and we're not there yet. Every day we need to make different choices,
It's choices to help families succeed, especially working families.
So today we celebrate tomorrow we continue fighting.
Thank you to everybody who spoke out in support of this budget, and I want especially
thank Ebony, Joan, Nadia, Liz, Davia, Andrew, and Brian, and everybody at our team for
all their work for this budget.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I'm super, as a resident.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Appreciate it.
And I also want to thank staff for all your hard work and effort that putting us budget together.
There's a lot in this, this $9.1 billion budget, for example, that I like.
The increase of $98 million is going to public safety, as it should be for sheriff services.
And unfortunately, yes, for jail improvements.
I'm all in favor of more schools, but unfortunately, we still need jails and ones we have are pretty bad shape.
So, this public safety money is going to share services, jail improvements, opioid enforcement
programs, and includes additional fire protection for the region through staffing increases,
county fire for water, tender trucks, and the night flying helicopter.
We learned for the LA fires at having mobile and large quantities of water is critical for
saving lives and property.
For behavioral health, we're pursuing crisis services for youth in North County.
I'm happy for that.
And we're maintaining services and not scaling back in libraries, parks, roads and
improvements.
In fact, hats off to our Department of Public Works for reaching the target of a 70-pavement
index for the unacarpired area roads.
I also appreciate the CAO for taking feedback and input continuing funding for their drowning
prevention and swim lessons for kids, and for the new youth sports defibrillator program
for all of our sports programs in the unacorporated area, and for funding the drowning prevention.
It's very important we hear in San Diego after all, swim lessons actually save lives
and what I've noticed in the drowning prevention programs in North County.
It's not just for kids, parents are actually enrolling in these classes and learning to swim, but just good.
However, there are some items that I don't support, and I want to voice my opposition for the record, including the 13.2 million for the immigrant rights legal defense fund.
Providing legal services for immigrant and federal court facing deportation.
I do not think that is what local taxpayers should be paying for.
That is what this is a federal issue.
This is not what local San Diego County folks should be paying for. That money should be going towards local efforts.
Not towards people who just came walked into the country and all of a sudden need legal issues.
Also, I don't support the division created by the County Council's office, not by the County Council, but for the consumer protection department.
This is a function that's already performed by the District Attorney Office. They're doing a great job, and I think this is totally redundant.
and unnecessary.
And I haven't supported and I do not support unlocking the user reserves.
I think reserves should be held sacred.
That funding is too valuable and limited to be spent in a manner it's being spent now.
I've voted against using a reserves ever since we've started doing this.
There's too many ongoing services and operations being funded by this finite pot of money.
There's going to come a day, and when we don't no longer have this reserve dollars,
it was opened up through politically-generated Mania and hysteria that the sky is falling
because of HR1. It's not. This is fear-mogery and it tries to make the public think the sky is
falling and everyone's going to lose food and health care. They're not. Ultimately, it's able
body people, between the ages of 18 and 64, with no dependence, who aren't willing to work
volunteer or go to school 20 hours a week or turn in the paperwork to show it, and the
people that are here illegally are the only ones at risk of losing their medical benefits.
So if they're able, if they're able, they're a single, got no dependence, are able to work
or work or some type of service to pay for the services that you're receiving.
Those are the ones that are not willing to do that at risk.
One else who is qualified and who has needs these services will get them.
It's only the ones that risk, the only ones that risk are those that aren't willing to participate.
As it turns out, the sky is not following.
In fact, so far, the impacts are estimated to be $8 million.
for additional staffing to address the increase work and reporting requirements of twice a year and
depending on how much the state funds were still not sure 15.7 million that serves the existing
entire recipients. There only puts at risk a potential of 24 million. And that's of everyone who's
eligible to work doesn't, or doesn't turn into paperwork. So we've opened up 381 million of reserves
for this $24 million shortfall, a potential shortfall.
And this board is spending it down at a tune of $95 million a year.
But all we really needed is, up to this point,
is a potentially $24 million.
And we may not need that much.
This could have and should have been addressed by prioritizing
our own budget, which increases about 5% every year,
5% of $8 billion is a lot.
We should not be spending these reserves,
and I said, I think this is a false hype and many are created to trick the public into accepting the board,
opening and spending emergency reserves.
We could have retrieved half of that 24 million with this illegal alien defense fund.
We could have taken that 13.0 million and put it towards this 24 million.
As we spend this funds in this manner, this money is just not going to be there once it's spent.
This is $368 million of reserves.
Once it's spent, it's gone.
That money alone would earn $11 million a year,
and now we're taking it out of the reserves.
$11 million a year, and if you compound that,
that's a lot more over 5, 10, 15 years,
to take $380 million out and spend it on one time things.
These are valuable reserves funds that are not going
to capital improvements, which could last for years to come.
In fact, the San Diego County Taxpayers Association did a great job.
They did a fiscal analysis on the county of San Diego and put it out that our capital
improvement allocation, which is for roads, for bridges, for infrastructure, for parks, for new
amenities, and buildings, things like that.
Our allocation this year is only 45 million.
That's only one half a 1% of our budget.
It's the lowest it's been in 16 years and previously it's always been about a hundred million a year
It goes to capital but just capital. We've got many buildings many many many roads and many many things that need improvements
And this is how the city of San Diego has gotten so far and so deep in trouble
Now I will admit staff's on a great job in the roads that keep in our roads up to a certain standard at 70 CPCI
Thank you, but we still have bridges. We still have buildings. We still have a lot of things other things to make this
building. It's just built almost 100 years ago, still needs repair. So we need those capital
improvement dollars for other things. And this year, because of all the other spending,
it's about half what it used to be. City of San Diego is not, there are about a billion dollars
behind on their infrastructure. And that's their roads or streets. The county, we bailed out
the city of San Diego when about 600 houses flooded because they weren't taking care of
sending the capital improvement projects going in.
So I think with those concerns, no $9 billion budget is perfect.
I'll admit that.
There's a lot of good in here, but there's also a few things that are bad.
So I would like to put for the record.
I will vote for the budget overall that I'm against the 13.2 million for the immigrant
legal defencily allocation against utilizing the reserves and against the county council
consumer protection unit being put in place.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
I have some additional comments, but I'll turn to my to the vice chair if you just put your
name up.
You want me to go ahead.
Okay.
Great.
Thank you all very much.
So again, I just want to thank County staff and John for everything.
you've done, the whole team, everyone here, how much work we've put in. And I want to again,
just acknowledge the moment that we're in historically and in our country. We are at a moment
where in Washington we're seeing severe disinvestment in our communities,
$70 billion being allocated to ice while healthcare is cut, while food assistance is cut,
while the ability, sir.
Okay, that is your first warning.
If you disrupt the meeting again, you will be asked to leave the meeting.
Thank you.
So, I am very proud of the work we've done here in San Diego to create a budget that does
invest in working families, that does do everything we possibly can to make sure that people
have access to food and don't go hungry.
Are able to keep a roof over their heads that invest deeply in tackling homelessness
and our affordability crisis, especially our crisis around affordable housing.
that prioritizes investments in public health, especially in health equity, like the
Tijuana River crisis, and the sewage crisis, and it makes enormous strides towards a safer,
cleaner environment and future for San Diego families.
And a budget that does everything we can to protect our constitution, protect the rule of law,
make sure that if you are in this country that you cannot be kidnapped, deported off of our streets
and disappeared into jails in El Salvador and other countries in other parts of this world.
So with that being said, again acknowledge that this is the beginning and not the end,
that this is important work and that these are investments that are incredibly important for the future
community. I'm very proud of the budget that we put together today. I've proud of the partnership
of my colleagues in bringing this budget forward and really hope that we can pass this budget
today for the future of San Diego County. Vice Chair, Montgomery Step.
Yeah, just briefly, you know, we all were voted in by our constituency, so we have different
perspectives on the budget, but I just want to say I believe that there is such a thing
as being fiscally responsible and then morally responsible to people.
And that I don't believe that it's worth having walking around and over people in our streets
but being okay because we're earning 11 million on interest.
I don't think that that's okay.
I think that, well, I know what I do know because I checked the numbers, right?
I'm going to be responsible.
And what I do know is that we have over $950 million in our reserves.
We have the amount, which represents 16.7 percent of our entire budget.
We have the amount that the general accounting principles says,
through their best practices, we should have.
And this is not a hedge fund.
This is a government entity that is mandated
to take care of our most vulnerable communities.
That is not anything we made up.
And the last thing I'll say is, I remember
when the Reserve's conversation was being had,
before I even thought I would be a supervisor,
that I was always been an issue in our community,
and that wasn't a direct impact of what is going on now at the federal government because we
have seen over the years and you can throw in the state here too, right?
I don't care if we blame, but it's been an issue where people have been suffering for a while.
We have been sitting on money on top of money and hoarding it here at the county.
So, that is, I just believe we can be physically responsible and we can be morally responsive
to our constituency, no matter what district they live in.
So, appreciate the discussion.
Thank you very much.
Superzer Anderson.
Thank you, ma'am.
First of all, I like to stir off.
I think in our staff for doing such an outstanding job.
And when you made the motion, I don't see it anywhere, you know, I want to make sure items
are in it.
You went quickly, and I don't want to hold everybody up, but I want to make sure that the
2.8 million for the shallower and subsidies in it, the 34.3 million for the new Ramona
chair stations in it. The 460,000 for this again, so fire station is in it and at the 265.9
million for roads and infrastructure are in it. Those who have been in eight, but when you
called out individual items in it, I didn't know if we skipped over or missing those dollar
rounds are important to me.
Thank you, Superzer Anderson.
So I'm going to turn that to Joan to make sure I
could look at my motion, whoever's more fishing here.
So I understand the items that you listed are in the CAO's
recommended budget, which was released to the public in May.
And so those items that we highlighted today were just those
revisions to the recommended budget.
The revisions don't include taking anything out.
So those things that you listed are in the budget.
OK, so it's all in here.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for the clarity.
Thank you very much.
We have a motion in a second.
Please vote.
Also, no for the record that an errada was distributed in post of online yesterday that made amendments.
The resolutions that are being considered to revise references to applicable county budget act provisions.
Motion went incorporate the edits in the errada.
And with that, Charleston remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present in voting aye.
Okay. So we're moving on to item 10. This is the second-hand
certification and adoption of ordinance modernizing the San Diego County
Charter, District and Transparency Accountability and Independent
Overstate. We'll begin with public comment. Thank you, Chair
Lawson Reemer. We have 42 requests to speak on this item. 24 in person and 18
requesting to speak by phone. Also note that we received 144 e-comments. 82
in support, 56 in opposition, and 1 in neutral.
Friendly individuals that requested to speak an item 10 by phone, please dial in the conference
line using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers, as your name is called, please come forward and stand
on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium.
Because there are 10 and more speakers on the side of me, you'll have one minute to address
the board.
You'll ask you to begin by stating your name for the audio record.
I will call you in groups of three, so please listen for your name.
I'd like to invite for the first three individuals.
Brett at Ledstrom, Noah Yee-Yik, and Karina Pue.
I have called your name.
Come forward, please.
Hello, Brie Tillinstrom District 3.
This proposal is deceptive, and in after it,
when you state, when you state,
is strength and transparency, accountability,
and independent oversight.
You know that is not true.
Use supervisors will control appointments,
removals and administrative processes of the bodies doing the independent oversight.
How on earth is this transparent accountable or independent?
Also, the conclusions are advisory, not obligatory.
Also, you were elected by voters for two terms. That was a contract.
Now you're extended.
What they are actually voting for. I find it ironic, also, that several of you organize rallies, opposing politicians that act like kings, and hear you three ladies are acting like queens. Stop deceiving your constituents, actually be transparent.
Thank you. Next speaker, please.
Good afternoon, Board. My name is Noah Yik, I'm a researcher with the Center on Policy Initiatives.
Our county plays a crucial role in the lives of Sandiagans that helps people stay housed but put on the table and access the care and services they need.
With a county of over 3 million people and a budget over 9 billion dollars, we must constantly ask ourselves, are we serving Sandiagans the best we can?
Right now our government is left to answer that question on its own, which leaves communities without real accountability.
These reforms change that and are designed to be implemented without new cost to taxpayers.
Using what we already have more wisely in making our county work better for Sandiagans.
An independent program auditor ensures we are measuring real impact.
Whether people's lives are improving and whether Sandiagans have what they need.
An independent budget analyst ensures decisions are grounded in clear, honest information,
so resources are spent equitably and prioritize communities with the greatest need.
Every dollar, every single public dollar should improve the lives of Sandiagans.
please vote yes to put these reforms on the ballot give sendy against the power to shape what kind of county we want to live in thank
Thank you. So next speaker's coming forward all right three of our speakers. Dolly Madison. David Levine and Andrew Lawson
Good afternoon supervisors. My name is Karina Pue. My pronouns are she her and I'm here today
on behalf of the San Diego LGBT Community Center, asking you all to vote in support of the
side of them. Transparency and governance is essential to ensuring that our community can properly
advocate for themselves. Additionally, adding independent oversight options, including an independent
budget analyst who will help our county spend dollars more equitably, effectively, inefficiently.
Please support the side of them and government transparency. Thank you.
Thank you.
Excuse me, please.
Good morning, supervisors.
Good afternoon now.
My name is David Levine.
I'm a deputy public defender and I'm a board member of the Public Defenders Association
of San Diego County.
The PDA supports item 10.
Independent fiscal analysis serves workers.
It serves taxpayers and it serves the public interest in knowing what the county can
actually afford.
The PDA is a direct interest in the one provision of this measure that the option to appoint the county public defender by ordinance.
We will be watching that closely. Public defense depends on independence from the government we are required to check.
The county may write the check for the public defense. The public defense must be free to check the county. Thank you.
Thank you. Next speaker please.
D. Madison, speaking today, I have accepted your one-minute time frame.
I have entered into a contract and when that you will hold me to, is it fair if I should
take more time just because I want more time? No.
Voters voted for a specific term for the San Diego County Supervisors. You won eight years.
That is what you get. That is what you agreed to. That is what the people you represent
agreed to. This is a dishonest attempt to extend your term by amending the charter and
pairing with other ideas that sound good and have the look of transparency and accountability.
What you are doing is attempting to lock in your majority. Would it be okay if President Trump
to try and change the rules to gain another term after serving eight years when he has finished
just turned? Should he be able to get four more years? No. Don't be selfish. Let others
San Diego and have the opportunity to serve their community. Thank you.
Like to buy four three additional speakers, Oliver Twist, allegedly Audra, and Natalie
Rashke.
Hi, good afternoon. So yes, I adamantly oppose this. Again, for people that do
oppose no kings, how are we getting three queens up on the dius? And before I get to, I do
to start out with an apology and that's why I meant to. This is for your CAO staff. I made the
term, I use a term covering up and I want to be really clear. I was talking about semanticly,
smoking mirrors covering up, not any indication of wrongdoing. I greatly respect your CAO
and her staff. And so I just want to make it really clear. I was talking semantically only.
And now back to our no-queens programming. When we have bureaucracy, this out of control,
the solution is not more government, nor people that point their own oversight. I use a term
loosely oversight. So you've got to stop that right now, wrapping it up and all the
feel good stuff is a dog pill and a marshmallow, or as I like to say in San Diego, a turd
and a taco. It stinks. Don't give yourself a more term. No more queens in San Diego. It's just
more political theater. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please.
I have significant concerns
regarding you guys with transparency and accountability when you can't even run a meeting,
you know, making sure that the fundamentals of doing that are followed, which would be
having a quorum.
Tara, suddenly you have a disability that would allow for you to not show your face on camera
when Monica and put to Paloma word.
The only ones here, therefore, leaving it to be that there was no quorum.
And yet you guys continue. I'm not sure why you showed up now, and it's interesting that you brought Ava Kai here because
You know, it's like I'm talking about
Mothers that you're terminating and then you go ahead and give her a kiss kind of like a fuck you
I have my child and they don't because it'd be like me going to somebody who's homeless and asking for food
Well, I've got it in my hand and I take a bite and I just walk away
So, it is disgraceful that you do stuff like that to virtue signal as though you are, you know, somehow better than the mother's future on either parental rights up.
As an ex, like to invite three additional speakers, Doyle Morrison, Alicia Morrison and Marco Espinoza.
Hello Board of Supervisors, my name is Doyle Morrison for the record.
And I oppose this charter reform on the basis that three terms is unclear whether or not
that's retroactive.
So I am opposing this because I believe that the three terms will start once this is
approved.
If it's voted on by the voters, and I totally disagree with that, I think that two terms
would be enough for you guys to do the great work that you're working on now.
And then you can move on further up the chain and do more better work for our community
at a higher level.
So I appreciate what you do and I want you to do more, but I think two terms is enough.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Can we just pause one moment, please?
It's been brought to my attention that there was a profanity utilized in this chamber
in another language, so I'm seeing nods of affirmation.
So that is not acceptable, that is not appropriate.
We do have a board policy against that kind of language in this chamber.
So, I'd be don't need to go backwards, we will go forwards, but this is one warning.
if we hear that kind of profanity again directed at anyone, you will be asked to leave the
chamber.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Alicia Morrison.
I respectfully oppose this item, especially increasing three terms.
Juneteenth, 2010, voters passed property to amend the charter to limit board supervisors
to two terms.
Let's not forget what happened on January 6, 2021.
because what is next? The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. It was proposed to amend it.
It was introduced on January 23rd, 2025. To increase the number of times a person can be elected as president.
Let me repeat that. It was introduced on January 23rd, 2025. To increase the number of times a person can be elected as president.
That is very scary thought.
Comments were made earlier about the Trump administration.
Imagine a third term for Donald Trump.
Yet eight years to do work hard for your district,
so set up the success for the next person
and pass the taunt.
Thank you.
This is the next speaker coming forward on
by three additional speakers.
C. K. Calderon Vargas,
Fernando Flores, and Jocelyn.
Afternoon, Marcos knows it.
I apologize for my ignorance on this item.
I was expecting a presentation beforehand.
Before I'll come in and I did not educate myself on the agenda much
for I really came today for what happened earlier this morning.
And now I'm just here because of the views nice.
And I like being here.
But I'm learning from the other public speakers.
And while the title and everything sounds great,
I do like.
I did hear that even prior to right now about potentially going to three terms.
I don't think I like that.
I really did give it to consideration.
When I first heard about it a couple days ago or weeks ago, I like two terms.
Yeah, that feels right.
So that's my opinion on that.
And if it did happen though, I would hope that it doesn't reset to where it gives you whole new three terms.
It's just one additional term.
That would sit better with me than our whole reset.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Good afternoon.
Chair, supervisors.
My name is Ike Calderon Baragas.
I'm the director of Latino services at the San Diego LGBT Community Center.
I speak in strong support of item 10.
The families I serve rely on this county for health care,
legal defense and safety.
especially now as federal cuts threaten those services.
In a government this large transparency is not a luxury.
It is how our communities know this system is working for them.
And independent ethics commission and independent budget analyst and
independent auditor and a budget the public can actually see.
These are the checks or residents to serve please move this measure forward and let
the voters decide in November.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, supervisors.
My name is Fernanda Flores.
I'm with IOTC Local 122.
We represent everything that has to do with live event
and production here in Southern California.
Currently representing 1500 members.
We are here in full support of advancing this forward.
You have our continued commitment to getting this
not only past today but also past in November at the ballot.
You have done an incredible job with the
resources that you have, there are government entities that have budgets, have the size of the county,
and they have these departments in place. You all deserve those things too, to be a tool
to make better decisions and move our county forward. So we have our support. Thank you.
Thank you. Like to buy four three additional speakers,
Alexandra Valentin, Malik Thornton and Matthew Careney.
Hi. I'm here to refute the content and title
of this proposal, the word transparent, accountability,
and independent oversight sounds so good.
However, this bill does not, does not
out these purported actions.
How is it independent oversight when the board of supervisor
gets to determine who gets hired and who gets dismissed
when they don't like the outcome?
You people on the left freak out, freaked out
when President Trump says that he's going to be in office
for the third term and what you're doing is the truly authoritarian and it is disingenuous.
So don't, don't, don't, don't pass this bill.
Can you please state your name for the record?
Oh, yeah.
Jocelyn.
Thank you.
Hello, my name is Alexander Valentine.
I'm a deputy public defender and a board member from the San Diego Public Defender Association.
I support item 10 as it promotes transparency and ethical practices related to San Diego
County's budget.
At the same time, I would note opposition to item 13 as transparency can be taken too far
and limit government operations in restrict functionality.
Transparency is the foundation of public trust, especially in relation to the county's
budget.
San Diego County residents and county employees deserve the opportunity to see how budget decisions
are reached, who is involved and what information is being considered and allocation of funds.
The proposed ordinance in item 10 for independent oversight is an important step toward ensuring
openness, accountability, and engagement, especially when determining budget allocation and
use of public funds.
Our county continues to grow and necessary departments like the Public Defender, deserve
transparency from the county when budget decisions are being made.
Transparency is not just good governance, it is a commitment to the people being served and
the employees serving the community.
Thank you.
Go ahead and call three additional speakers, Vanessa Melendrez, Crystal Irving and Michelle
I've called your name, please come forward.
Good afternoon, board. My name is Vanessa Melendrez. I'm with the Filipino Workers Center with offices in
Vista and Shula Vista. And we serve Filipino caregivers and domestic workers in all of Southern California. And I am coming up here today to ask you to please vote yes on these reforms.
Because
And expected to call off so fast.
Please vote yes and support of this item, because transparency is good governance and it's
essential to ensuring our community can properly advocate for themselves.
Additionally, adding independent oversight options and including an independent budget
analyst will help the county spend their dollars more effectively.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
I don't know if Crystal is here.
Michelle, come on up.
Thank you.
Good afternoon, Michelle Krug.
And I strongly support this ordinance.
And I will work to get it passed.
I think that the transparency as other people have said before is a long time coming.
It definitely will make a difference.
I also think that when people are talking about getting 12 years, you don't just get
12 years.
What you get is the opportunity for the people to make a decision.
And I trust that.
And the bottom line is that when people have that decision, this also puts us on point
with the state. And I think we have been in a disadvantaged situation because our county only has eight years.
I think keeping it on part with the state will allow us to be able to work more effectively as partners.
Thank you.
As the next speaker is coming forward on by the remaining speakers in person, Marco Breones.
I want to be your Frank and Michelle Quavos.
Crystal Irving, President of SEIU Local 221, speaking in favor of this item, no one knows
better than the county employees that SEIU 221 represents, the challenges that are county
faces in the current national environment, no one knows better than our members, the importance
of providing quality services that the community depends on, now more than ever.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the dozens of stakeholders that provided feedback
and input on this proposal. It is a comprehensive proposal that provides for transparency,
accountability from both county staff leadership and elected officials alike
that will help to support our employees and the communities that we're delivering services to,
which include our children, our elderly, our vulnerable, and quite frankly, all sandy agents who
benefit from it either directly or indirectly. This is the right proposal to bring to the voters in
November and we believe this is the right path forward for our county. Thank you.
Thank you. Go ahead and recall some of the previous speakers, Andrew Lawson, Natalie Rasky,
Malik Thornton, Matthew Kerney, Marco Breones, quite a very frank and Michelle Quivas.
Thank you so much. Thank you. The Board of Supervisors for allowing me to speak today. My name is
for my entire life, and it's been two of my lifetimes
since the charter has been reformed.
That means that it has been 48 years
that we have not touched this charter.
That means that it slows down important policy
that young people depend on.
That means that the board of supervisors
has not had real accountability
and dependent accountability for two of my lifetimes.
And that means that young people have suffered
and we are on the precipice of opportunity.
We have so much opportunity ahead of us,
but we will not be able to capitalize on those opportunities
if you don't have policies in place that allow you to do your work.
Because we rely on you.
And so I encourage you that if you care about your young constituents,
if you want to make sure that we have a future that includes us,
that we can have a house,
and not have to worry about being in debt for the rest of our lives.
Please, please make sure that you guys pass.
Thank you.
Well, now here from the individuals that requested.
Did I call your names, sir?
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Supervisors.
Marco Bionez.
Political director of the San Diego and Imperial County's Labour Council.
We're proud to represent over 100 unions and 200,000 working families in our border region.
We're here today because we believe Martin and I is the county charter and
and Canada leadership, the kind of county government that workers and working families rely
on for fair and effective public services.
A more accountable county government helps ensure that policies serve the entire community,
not just narrow interest.
The people get accountability by being at the table and this measure does that.
These are just a few of the reasons we're proud to stand with this coalition of community members
and leadership working towards a better county for all San Diego's.
Thank you.
Hey everyone, my name is Gwen, I'm a researcher at UCSD and a proud member of UW-4811
who represents over 10,000 workers in San Diego County and I wanted to voice our strong
support for modernizing the charter. We're in a period of time where as a country we're
seeing blatant corrupt spending and outright swindling of American taxpayers at the highest levels
of our government. And I think it's more important than ever across all levels of government.
We establish stringent structures to ensure transparency and accountability in spending so we can hold our elected officials accountable, along with all other critical modernizations proposed to bring proposed to bring to our charter. So us and our workers are in strong support.
Thank you.
Well now, next speaker, please.
Hi, my name is Dr. Michelle Kwebis, I'm a pediatric neuropsychologist, but I'm here to represent the National Union of Healthcare Workers.
I see lots of friendly faces that have been with us for our six and a half years, six and a half
one strike.
But here I am here to represent NUHW as supporting this transparency.
I want to be clear that the county is one of the largest purchasers and providers of health
care and that the charter reform helps us create that transparency and ensuring that health
dollars are spent to the most appropriately for patient care, helping the most vulnerable in our
community. I'm also in a large support for transparency, particularly related to the independent
budget analysis and independent program auditor, with respect to the allocation of funds for supporting
our most vulnerable populations. Thank you very much.
Thank you. One now here from those that
request to speak by phone, we'll start with our first caller.
All bold, most of this is self-serving, still, and
mud's card has an politics, but it doesn't do much for real
transparency or independent oversight in county government,
no considered card or amendment.
No Queens are fake transparency in county government,
or better than math.
No reason don't stand term limits, and what,
Something you are in term in the middle of it is a huge conflict of interest.
This proposal would also impose term limits on the sheriff, DA, and other county elected officials
who currently have none, which, by the way, is against the state law.
If they all have the same term limits and guarantees officers with same political beliefs,
Nice to have a bunch of analysts on the program,
but these are political appointees and in no way independent.
We'll get from the next caller.
Amen to that.
Go follow here.
And to the scripted people,
er, er,
er,
Again, you're here because you've been asked to be here, even more clearly, is you are all,
you're truly not being attention to this board and their lack of transparency and total
opposition of this item totally, totally, totally, totally, term limits, especially for the
ones like Tara, who have proven that she's been totally abusive by taking advantage of the
entitled and privileged. Honestly, how much time do you need to further destroy our county
and further run it to the ground, but that's even possible. I hope the people who put their
face in this corrupt system and board wake up, truly question everything, wake the freak up
Seriously,
ladies and men, total slaves,
I'm Doug.
I'm here from the next caller.
Good afternoon and my name is Teriance Galley.
I came today to express my opposition to item number 10.
I think a lot of these changes are useful.
However, they seem to clarify what seems to be the real purpose of the charter changes,
which is to ensure that you three board of supervisors supporting these charter changes will have a third term.
It seems if you were really serious about these changes, you would bring them after the next election cycle.
I support transparency by independent bodies, but I noticed that nearly all of those opposed or arguing in opposition
because of the lengthening of the current board members' term.
Why are they both in the same ordinance?
Carter changes their serious and important to our county and need to be separated into different proposals and not lumped together.
Thank you for hearing my concerns this afternoon.
Thank you.
And we'll hear from our next caller.
My name is Kathleen Mippitt and good afternoon Council's Board.
No one will benefit by ensuring a third term except these three board majority and they should not be able to vote on an item that will benefit them.
Like many of the other items that are put forth whether it's on the agenda or whether it's by the board of supervisors.
There seems to be an intention to obscure and to get things passed the public.
You need to have simple straightforward language, and this is not straightforward.
From the title, it sounds like it's a great idea until you read the details.
And the Dell was always in the details.
So please, I oppose this.
And I think you can tell by the people who are there, the only ones who have a conflict of interest
are the ones who are supporting it.
Thank you for letting me speak.
Thank you.
We'll hear from the next caller.
Thank you, Walker.
Good afternoon, and I oppose.
Papa Tassen had adequate time to review
very important details that deserve scrutiny,
including items such as Supervisorial Control,
Over employees, and contracts.
We've got in term limits of two
or sufficient for a U.S. president.
There's sufficient for supervisors.
It raises legitimate questions about who the interests are being served when elected officials
write a measure that extends their own tenure.
Terminal amounts are at the core of democracy meant to promote broader participation.
We do the undo influences, prevent corruption and bring diverse experiences and innovative
of ideas to policy making. In reality, the most direct beneficiaries here are the supervisors
placing it before the public under a really deceptive guy's of charter modernization.
No one to fight them.
Thank you. On to the next caller.
Good afternoon. My name is Becky Rappen. While I support many of the transparency and accountability
measures included in this proposal. I urge you to reject this charter reform packages
curtain written. The report highlights several important additions, including independent
finance analysis, ethics oversight, and improved public access to government information.
Unfortunately, those reforms have been bundled together with a proposal to increase term limits
for county supervisors. The people with San Diego County have already spoken on this issue.
voters approved the current two-term limit because they believe regular turnover and
elective offices process promotes accountability and creates opportunities for new voices
and perspectives.
Extending term limits by 50% is a major policy change and should not be packaged alongside
popular transparency updates.
I'm also disappointed that there was no presentation for this item.
The public, public wouldn't benefit from an explanation for each.
The next caller.
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors.
Excuse me, and Bill here.
I call them because I think it's important for you to realize that it's here in the incorporated.
There's estimated some 30-35% of those consider ourselves independent. And this optics does not work well for us.
Because it's clear that you have obstacles that really intent the charter change to allow yourself a third term.
And no matter what else you want to accomplish, it's suspicious that it just isn't even
included in the title, what you really want to accomplish.
If it's a good thing, why isn't it part of the title?
And if these are all really good things, why are they bundled?
Why wouldn't we have separate charter changes?
This would show how really valuable you fill each of the items are.
I too was looking forward to staff presentation because the explanations are the real.
You, you from the next caller.
Hey, it's truth.
This item is the only reason.
20 minute late, Connie Mommy Tara is here in person today.
Using her baby as a prop.
She wants to be crowned publicly.
Well, pride comes before a fall.
We've seen your back and deals on everything from the jail, which resulted in lawsuits.
So, the Center on Policy Initiative on these extended thermons that 60% of voters already
posed in 2010.
Maybe the reason Tara wanted supervisors to live from outside of their district is because
she has a house in the city of San Diego, and I'm going to want to have the house in La Mesa.
Tara and Tara and her Marionette, Pride, Babies, Menwellas, are not interested in transparency.
They're interested in a power graph to create their personal phyism and do a spray UCSD,
S.A.A.U. and the Baudica Shark and Trace Council both funded with our money.
Now, Tara for prison 2026 would be real accountability, especially since Tara was found
guilty of abusing her authority as a part-time lover of art in North Park.
One of the queen's parents isn't bringing it to accountability when she can't even commit
to a meeting start time.
All she wants is to ensure her reign of Tara is indefinite, no corrupt county queen.
Well, here for the next call,
I'm going to just take a minute.
What is three Republican white men want to extend a term on it?
How would you three women react since?
This item has always been a scam, a lie, an insult to American citizens who voted for
term limits.
It is a power grab by clean Tara as their ladies and ladies and ladies.
Monica, do you think you'll ever be chairwoman if Tara's on the board and definitely?
The three women on this board are in over their head fancy and they can manage the
billion dollar budget even with extended terms. The board can be transparent and accountable
beginning to day without changing the charter. I'm going to engage it can be improved today
by lifting the restrictions on the public speakers as dictated by Queen Tara, especially those
speaking in opposition. Tara stands for no teams is transparent of her hunger for more power.
Would you like that in its whole health behavior term? Don't be her minion. And we're
we want, almost on their needs.
I'll go to the next caller.
Hello, Supervisor.
My name is Madison.
And although I am a favor of modernizing the county charter and increasing chance
fancy, I would ask you to vote no on this proposal because the San Diego county
voters already decided that two terms is the appropriate limit for this office.
What concerns me most is that the officials who would direct the benefit from this
change are the ones advancing it.
Family restructuring with the high cost of living. Communities are concerned about public safety,
homelessness, mental health, infrastructure, and the future of our region. Those are the issues
that deserve our attention. Not extending term limits for those already in power. Our government
is strongest when leadership is continually renewed and opportunities exist for new people to step forward
and serve. Our perspectives can bring new solutions to long-standing problems.
So, voters established a two-term limit, and that standard has served our county well.
I ask you to reject this proposal and preserve the term limits at San Diego County Residence already chose.
Thank you.
And we'll hear from the next caller.
Afternoon, my name is Diane Grace, and I am coming before you to voice my opposition to item 10,
which would advance the charter reform package to the November ballot.
It is costly to put such a divisive proposal on the ballot that will probably fail because
of the evitory else that have already been very negative.
Oversight bodies should be truly independent and the language doesn't seem to support that.
And current supervisor should not benefit from changing their own term limits.
Voter should be allowed to consider each reform proposal separately.
The agenda item title doesn't tell you it's true intent that they want the present supervisors to have three terms.
As mentioned before, why not include this in the title. Thank you.
Thank you, and we're here from the final caller.
Good
afternoon. My name is Nadina Kada-Kashan. I am a Deputy Public Defender and a member
of the San Diego Public Defenders Association and I'm here to express my support for item 10.
Transparency is the absolute foundation to public trust, particularly regarding our county's budget.
Our residents and hardworking county employees deserve full visibility into how our budget decisions are being reached.
who's at the table and what data is driving the decisions that are being made.
For essential departments, like the Public Defenders Office,
clarity on decisions affecting our funding and affecting our budget are crucial
because it directly impacts our independent community members
and our ability as an entire holistic office serving those independent community members.
This proposal strengthens independent ethics oversight, provides nonpartisan fiscal and budget
analysis, and creates this independent evaluation of county programs so that's the
public.
You're in sure, last time I remember that concludes public comment on this item.
Okay, thank you all very much.
I guess I'll just begin happy to make a motion to prove this item.
I first just want to thank everyone for this has been a long process, there's been huge amounts of conversation and input.
People began putting these ideas forward a number of years ago and it's really been an iterative conversation
where some good ideas emerge and some bad ideas emerge and bad ideas got tossed out and good ideas got stronger.
And the process of having these conversations made,
the package of reforms better and more powerful.
And I think that we've really arrived in a great place.
This has been a long stakeholder process
driven by residents and community groups
and business partners and our labor partners.
And I just want to thank you for your leadership.
This final version has made a number of changes
and reflects a number of changes made along the way.
Most recently, it removed term limit changes
for independently elected county offices in response
to input from the sheriff and the DA.
We also heard concerns about ballot question clarity
and those concerns have been addressed.
But the heart of the reforms remains strong.
We still do not have an independent ethics commission.
This try to reform and establish that.
We still do not have an independent budget analyst or an independent program auditor.
This measure gives voters the chance to change that.
This measure gives the public stronghold tools to see how money is spent, whether programs
are working, and whether government is meeting the standards that people deserve.
And it does all this in a revenue neutral way because no new spending would be permitted,
and no reduction in kind of service would be allowed.
So again, I would like to thank the broad coalition supporting and championing this reform package, including firefighters, our deputy sheriffs, environmental advocates, labor unions, civil rights groups, reproductive health advocates, attorneys groups, small business leaders, community organizations and others across San Diego County.
This has been a very broad-tent process, and I will tell you,
has been incredibly interesting and difficult,
because these are groups who not only don't agree on every issue,
often agree on no issues.
So to have found common ground on a package of reforms
to make our government work better for everyone,
has been, I think, pretty extraordinary,
and I am very excited to give the voters the opportunity to make a decision for themselves.
Again, as has been said from the very beginning and as I've said many times,
these are not questions that are up to us as members of the County Board of Supervisors.
These are questions that are up to the voters.
These are questions that can only and should only be decided by voters.
The question around the structure of our charter and the rules governing our region are basically the constitutional questions for our community and these are questions that are left to the voters.
So what I think we can do and the best we can do in our positions as supervisors is to put forward an option for voters to consider and decide whether these are reforms that they'd like to see adopted and move forward or not.
And I'll be very proud to put that on the ballot, but ultimately we'll trust that our voters are smart and wise and capable of making good decisions for themselves about the rules to govern our region.
So I'm happy to make that motion.
I would like to urge my colleagues to support.
And with that, I can turn it over to Supervisor Desmond.
And we have a second on the floor by share.
I'm not going to waste that.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Appreciate it.
I've made my position on the proposed charter
amendments of quite clear, in our previous
board hearings, I'm not going to be supporting it today.
And I'd like to ask voters of San Diego County to reject
this deceptive charter reform.
The voters, I think, are being deceived by using
the attractive language such as transparency, accountability,
and independent oversight.
We should be doing those things already.
And we should be, that's our job, that's what you elected us for, is to be transparent, to be accountable, and have independent oversight.
All of those things we can do without a charter amendment.
So this isn't about modernizing county government.
To me, it's a power grab by extending our own term limits and creating a political patronage system.
Section 500.4 of the amended charter would require
or top-level positions of the county to be approved by the board before they are hired.
That's getting our fingers in my opinion, weighed down deep into the weeds, and these
are going to become political appointments as opposed to merit or merit-based appointments.
This proposal would make all leadership positions at the top of the county, a government
political, meaning people only get the job if they have the right politics, not the right
qualifications.
Section 501.9 are the amended charter, the non-innofferenance clause.
That's us, not interfering with the staff.
Historically, regulate how supervisors and staff interact with the county staff and bars
us from giving county staff directives.
But if we have the yay or nay on hiring, on hiring them, to me, that's, you know, getting
getting too deep into the staff section of the county.
There's an additional section that grants
a board of supervisors in their staff,
the ability to weigh in on the hiring and firing
of more than 600 manager positions at the county.
So the board should not, I think,
under any circumstances, interfere with the hiring process
of the county management up and down the organization.
That's what we hire the CAO for.
That's what the CAO works for us
and then everybody else works for the CAO.
The CAO's not doing their job,
then we need to rethink that process,
but we shouldn't be hiring people
into the other different levels of the county.
So, Section 660, the amount of charter would extend
supervisors' term limit from two years to two terms
to three four-year terms for total of 12 years.
There had already been pointed out supervisors
that was passed by 68% of the vote of the two terms in 2010.
So San Diego County residents have already spoken.
The five of us here, we all ran with the understanding that we get two terms.
And now that we're in office in the office, we want to change the rules for ourselves
and give ourselves an extra term.
I don't think that's right.
If we do this third term, it should only apply to new supervisors.
Section 702 creates an independent budget analyst at analysts and program auditor.
I don't know why this would have to go to a vote of the people, I can't we just do that.
That sounds great, but how truly independent are they?
We the board would hire and fire them.
We'd decide their salaries, and they would report directly to us.
They need reporting to the people.
They need to be independent, same thing with ethics commission.
the ethics commission will be appointed by the supervisors and our county council who I trust,
but he works for this county board of supervisors. So I question how independent these offices
would be. So I can't support this. To me it's two self-service serving. We're sugarcoding this
Adding an extra term with the terms of accountability, transparency, and independent oversight.
We should already be doing those things.
And again, I would encourage Sandiagan to reject this deceptive term.
Thanks.
Super, thank you.
I'm sure I really want to get to yes.
And I'm not trying to poke at you all, but I really want to get to yes.
There's so many good things in this.
I'm going to offer a friendly amendment to the areas where I have difficulty.
We've never, this will be the first in the county to have retroactive termimants.
It's never been done in the state.
It's always all termimants have been moving forward with newly elected.
And I fear there's not your intention to have three more terms, but rather one, making it
12 for everybody.
And I get that.
But it's never been tested in court.
And if it were tested, it would give us the potential of being here for 20 years, not all
of us, but for all, for us long-tooth folks, you and I would have 20 years.
So, my first amendment, or is a group amendment, but the first portion, would be that the
term limits would apply for the new terms, not for anybody who's already in office.
The second thing is we're changing the language in much of this, our colleague, Supervisor
judgment hit is we have a moat around purchasing right now where we can't unduly influence
them and we have all sorts of protections against single source contracts that were
working with the public's money. We want to make sure that those protections are there.
I fear that by removing that moat that we are running the risk of having undue influence
on the decisions. So I would prefer that that be taken out, that section 701, excuse me,
705.3. So we wouldn't be able to interact with the purchasing department or the contracting
staff directly. The way we have it currently. The third thing is I would like to remove the
post-language empowering the board to confirm or remove county staff.
I think civil services is important, and I think that the language that we're using
could be reinterpreted by future boards to go much deeper, and I don't think, you know, if
I fill pot holes in my district, maybe I just want to be the best pot hole filler there
and my party registration shouldn't matter.
But when you have this kind of oversight,
when you have political tensions,
all of a sudden we're putting all sorts of pressure
on civil service that shouldn't be there.
Though the running of government
shouldn't be regulated by the elected.
So I don't believe there's adequate protections
that the next board doesn't say, everybody's an ACAO, and this, and redefining the positions
as arbitrary, and that could easily be done with a three-volt majority.
So I'd like to see that removed, and then, of course, requiring the independent auditor be
elected in accountable to the public, I don't want this person to be a political appointee.
We, the way it's written, three members of this board could choose that political pointy.
And I'm not suggesting that this board's going to be nefarious.
But what happens if five Biden's get elected to follow us or five Trump's?
And I threw them both, so everyone had somebody they may not like.
Are you going to be happy with these rules?
If they have that kind of power, you see, if I was in a various person, I could weaponize those audits in target political folks because they report directly to three members of the board.
They should report to five, but if there's a three board, three member board, I mean majority.
I could, I don't like the answer or county council gives me, so I'll direct them to audit them.
Or if I don't like what somebody else says, maybe behavior health isn't giving me the answers I like.
So I put them through an audit, or maybe I go after the sheriff or anybody else.
And so I'm worried that we're giving incredible power to the people that follow us in office and I'm not comfortable with that.
So I want to explain why I felt strongly about these areas.
The likelihood of you accepting it is slim.
However, I really want to get to yes.
There's a lot of other items, the FX committee.
I was appalled when I got elected and found out that we report to no one.
And I thought, how crazy is that? Why don't we just go with the FPC? Well, they have a two million population cap.
We're at 3.3. We don't qualify. Even if we wanted to contract with the FPC, we can't get one.
Because we're too big. So this solves that problem. And that's a big problem.
But it puts us at risk down the road, if the people that replace us aren't as good is where the board is now.
So that's why I'm asking for these amendments.
If you accept them, I will gladly vote for this and I'll cheer for it.
And while I can't campaign in my office for it, I certainly will make it known in my personal
circles how much I could support this.
But short of those changes, I'm just too worried that we're solving a problem with a bigger
problem because while this board may be in the straight and narrow, we don't know who's
going to follow us.
I'm asking for the amendment.
So I talked a long time and we've may have lost what I was saying to start with.
I think it's three.
You had one about term limits, one about term limits, one about the appointment and confirmation process and one about the independent auditor.
Four total.
Four total in the package.
And I think that you all know this.
When I ask for an amendment, you give it to me.
go for it. So I wanted to package him together. So give me one. I wouldn't be misleading.
You went to believing I'm going to vote for one. It's a package of four. But I wanted
to make sure I was clear on that yesterday, you were on the line you mean I've heard, but I
had asked for an amendment. It fell short. And so I had to, I want, out of clarity, I want
to announce that I would not be voting for it, not because I was angry, but because I didn't want
mislead anybody. At that point when I announced I wasn't going to vote for it, you may have
wanted to reverse and not give a partial because the partial wasn't going to earn my vote.
So that's where I am today. I'd love for you to accept those items and I'd love to vote
for this and I'd love to campaign for on my own time, not in county office. I would love to
is really important. I think having the independent, truly independent,
auditor is really important. I think the ideas that you presented were
excellent. I just didn't think we're there yet for solving the problem, and I
think this would bring in home. So thank you. Thank you very much. You know, I
don't want to speak for the second day of the motion. I know for myself as the
at the late stage taking such a significant amendment after all the feedback from the community
and the participatory process, but I do really appreciate the spirit in which it was offered.
And I also would note that there's a huge amount of work that's going to need to be done to implement all of this charter reform.
And that work is going to be the responsibility of the working group.
So I would respectfully ask you to just really consider that, that this is provides a path
to potentially implement these reforms, but it doesn't mandate how they would be implemented.
And so there would still be quite a bit of space to implement suggestions along the lines
that you've just outlined in how the charter reform is implemented over the next two years.
So, again, we'd love to invite you to join us and take the good with the good and acknowledge
that, you know, not necessarily want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I
also understand if that's not where you're at, but this has definitely not been an easy
journey.
There's been a lot of different opinions and nobody I think has gotten everything that they've
I think everyone's gotten a little bit of what they've wanted along the way and that's really been sort of my commitment and trying to put this together.
But again, I don't want to speak for my colleagues if people have a different view. Very open.
I just, I know we have an extensive discussion last time.
So we hear everything you're saying. I would just like to say on the record because I know in the event that anything is challenged.
The record also is important, including the vote, so we live in this process today and in the event that it passes in November.
We don't know if it will.
My understanding of the term limits is that it is in a no person can serve more than 12 years.
That's my understanding.
I just want to put that on the record so that if there is any, are there any legal challenges that's my understanding?
It's now in the record.
I think in that vein, it would probably be worth clarifying that that with County Council.
I see sure here just to make sure that that is clear both in terms of the language is drafted,
but also the intent.
I don't want there to be any confusion.
So, Damage here, if you need a moment, we can wait.
But if that's if you have that in front of you, if you could clarify whether there's any real risk that this could be interpreted
as somehow resetting the clock and providing anyone three additional terms, or whether it's fairly
clear from both comments on the dice and the written content of the charter that it would
only be one. It would only be one additional term. It would be three max.
Thank you, Chair Lawson. Remember, the way that the language is written is to reflect that it would
a total of three terms, 12 years, so that if any supervisor is currently in the midst of one
or two terms, it would not be an additional three terms on top of that. I can defer to my
colleagues here. If she has a specific language or other things, she'd like to read to make that
clear, but that is the way that it has been drafted.
Well, the attorneys care of one of your
to work in search.
Go ahead, Chair.
If you want the additional language, there's a provision in the proposed 401.5 that makes clear
that a supervisor's service and office prior to the effective data, the amendment counts
toward the three term limit.
If I may, is there any key, law that supports this, because it hasn't been tested in
courgette?
I think the concern you are raising has to do with retroactivity, and our research of the
The case law is that the provision written in this manner is not considered retroactive because it doesn't change anything that has already happened as an additional term going forward.
I pull the entire state where the first to do this. No one's ever done it.
The legal opinions I've received when I was in the state legislature were hurt.
Then it will be struck down in court. That's why nobody's done it.
So, there's not to say it can't be done, but it's not been tested in court and good attorneys
get struck down in court all the time, laws get struck down in court all the time.
So, if it were to be struck down, what would happen at that point would that not lead to
three more terms? I mean, a total of three additional terms. If it were struck down in court.
Excuse me.
I'm sorry.
You're saying, if the measure itself is, is this is permanent, this element of the measure
because I think there's a solvability clause, right?
Yeah.
So, I think I can try to answer when the current can correct me.
My understanding is it would revert to what we have currently.
It would be two terms because if it's struck down in court, it would be struck down.
And then you go back to what's already in existence.
It would be struck down in the union of with 20 terms.
It would be struck down in the back to two terms.
I like, like, because it is not 20 terms.
20? 20. You'd be a plicable 12 years moving forward. So if it was so
and they said you can't. No, because it because the term, the the language itself
would be struck down and so you'd go back to what you we don't really know. I hear
your point, but the several so we would go back to what's currently the law you
wouldn't create new new we don't know that specifically though. We think that's what's
But there is still a chance that
It's just never been tested. In all the term limits throughout the count, throughout the state, no one's ever done it before, because nobody wanted to run this risk.
I get it, it's moving forward, but it's not guaranteed.
Did anyone have any additional thank you for your clarification? Any additional questions or comments from anybody?
Okay. We can call the vote.
Chair, I'll also remember that motion passes with supervisor Anderson and supervisor Desmond Voting
No, although their supervisor is being present in voting aye.
Okay.
Thank you all so much.
So we will now move on to item 10.
I'm sorry.
Item 11.
We already did 10.
Certification.
The certification of the initiative petition measure to fund Sandy Grahoney Health and Safety Services.
Do we need to have any kind of presentation or anything else?
Do you see, okay, great.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Chair Lawson, remember, it's the board.
No presentation, but I do have a brief statement to read into the record.
The Registrar voters has certified the Citizen's Initiative petition titled Measure
to Fund San Diego County Health and Safety Services.
by law the board must submit the measures of voters without alteration.
The measure is a 0.5% sales tax with revenues dedicated as follows.
22.5% of the revenue to the T1 River Valley sewage mitigation.
17.5% to public safety and wildfire prevention.
And 60% to health care, child care and nutrition.
The measure requires a 12 member oversight committee, independent audits,
and prohibits uses such as salaries and lobbyists.
The measure requires a majority vote to pass.
There are two options in the recommendations.
Option one, adopt the resolution to place it on the November 3, 206 ballot today.
Option two, order an impact report, do within 30 days,
and schedule a special meeting to adopt the election resolution.
Under elections code, Section 1405, the resolution calling the election must be issued at least
88 days before election day.
That deadline is August 7th, 2021, which would require a special board meeting sometime
between July 25 and August 7th, 2021.
If option 2 is chosen.
In addition to these two options, the board has the discretion to direct the auditor to review
the initiative measure and prepare a fiscal impact statement pursuant to election code section
in 1960.
The other must provide the fiscal impact statement to the registrar voters by no later than
August 14, which is printed in the voter information guide and limited to 500 words.
I also want to note for the record that under government code section 25207, the board retains
the authority to order a report at any time independently of the elections code options before
you today.
This means that even outside the 30-day impact report process, under election code 9111, the board may request an additional analysis it believes is necessary to support its deliberations.
Thank you, that concludes my summary of the item.
Okay, we'll go to public comment.
Thank you, Chair.
Last summer we have 15 requests to speak on the item.
4 in person and 11 requesting to speak by phone.
Also, for the record that we received one e-comment in opposition.
For any individuals that requested Speaker 9 and 11 by phone, please dial in the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers.
As your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until that is your turn to speak at the podium.
You will have one minute to address the board.
We'll be calling you groups of three, so like to invite for the first three individuals,
allegedly Audra Marco Espinoza and Crystal Irving.
Again, please stay tuned for the audio record.
I need a call point of order for what is taking place.
You were just talking about transparency and accountability and I would like to put
you on notice to change your board policy to follow the law.
And, Dean, this is something that you should be addressing because it is a violation of
not only our first amendment, but the Brown Act that's under two constitutions, what supersede
your board policy.
And under the supremacy clause, under the due process, it's the law of the land to have
First Amendment.
So if I want to say Putha, if I want to say Cracker, whatever it is, even if it's criticizing
a person, that is legal to do.
So you're setting yourself up for litigation because you are violating the law by saying
that you are following your board policy by restricting my speech.
You've continued to do it.
So I would like an answer from Damon regarding this because this is a violation of law and you know it.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Speaker, please.
All right.
Crystal Irving, president of FBIU, local 221, speaking in favor of this item.
We were proud to join a coalition that brought this initiative to Sandy Agons.
And over 150,000 Sandy Agons added their signatures to the effort to successfully qualify for the ballot.
The citizen's led initiative will address the Tijuana River toxic sewage crisis with the first ever local infrastructure upgrades.
It'll protect access to affordable healthcare in the face of Washington severe cuts, establish and a substantial first-ever local investment in child care,
and strengthen wildfire response for every community in San Diego County.
This measure also includes independent oversight, public disclosure, and strict prohibitions
on any funds going to elected official salaries or lobbyist contracts.
Now, we recognize that today's vote is merely procedural, but I want to highlight that
I think it's appropriate to be discussed on the same day as budget deliberations.
When we see the impacts of HR1 and the Trump administration, and we know it's going to get worse.
So, again, thank you for this vote.
Thank you.
I'd like to invite for the remaining speakers in person, Michelle Krug, and Oliver Twist.
Marcos.
Vanessa?
I mean, yes, on this one.
Thank you.
I'll go back.
I'd like to speak, please.
Good afternoon, again.
I did, actually, mean to proceed my remarks before by welcoming back,
Tara Lawsneruma.
Congratulations and welcome back.
I am very glad that we collected enough signatures to get this on the ballot.
This money is direly needed.
You, on the diet, know that better than us.
This money will really make the difference or changes that I'd love to see with county medical
services.
Obviously, the T.O. want a rubber basin is a major impact in our community, so I'm very glad to see that we, you know, this is ready to be authorized.
And of course, I hope that you will just accept it. Thank you.
next speaker.
Hi, good afternoon, Oliver Twist. I'm adamantly opposed to this and I don't think we should have any new taxes in San Diego, either in the city or the county.
You're fiscally irresponsible. You are growing government to big 33% growth in five years and a 12, I think it was 12 to 13% in county staff.
And it's just too much, and we don't need more taxes
because look what happened in Balboa Park.
They, when they, like socialism,
you end up running out of other people's money,
and then you start charging for parking,
fix the infrastructure and the things
that you're supposed to be working on.
And what I would really appreciate
is a lot more fiscal pragmatism.
People don't understand they hear progress.
All the ideas sound so good, so feel good.
But what you're really there is to grow government,
grow your county staff, grow your union membership,
so can feed in the cycle of political donations.
So, rule pragmatically, focus on the Mao's low hierarchy,
and fix what needs fixing first.
Thank you.
Well, here from the individuals that requested to speak my phone,
we'll start with our first caller.
Here comes a pollabold.
Here comes another tax that's attached to how many
product and items, this is what's the fun.
There's a new committee for pretty much everything
for you, fans of new Brzarch or CSA.
Of course, it has something for everyone,
but what tiny percent of your sales tax will go to,
your favorite cost.
So you're a half-percent additional tax
and transaction-excluding part of their fuel.
It's supposed to fund eight main items and many smaller products, quite always.
How many will it project get?
Two hundred percent or less.
The taxes will be put into the Protect San Diego, Candace Health and Safety Fund, which
be used to solely finance central candidacy and maintain the proof the quality of lives
of the country.
Okay, I'm slow here and all the slaves in favor of bigger government say aye, come on
slide.
Collette, what it is, this item is so, is to further keep the people under the rule some of big government to further keep them under the illusion that government is taking care of everything, taking care of them, when it's all about more taxes and more control.
This item will pass with the majority being the three queen curves in tacos.
And yeah, it's just more unbelievable shit.
I'm from this bias.
Done.
Thank you.
Here from the next caller.
Next caller is Terry Scaly.
I'm hoping to speak on item 13, not 11.
Back to you for that item.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
My name is Becky Rapp.
And I recognize that the voters have demonstrated
sufficient support of its measure to bring it forward.
And at this stage, the county's responsibility is to ensure transparency and clarity about what the measure does and how it would be implemented.
A strongly encouraged board to ensure the fiscal impact statement and related materials,
and that they clearly explain not only what service is may be funded, but what gas still remain is funding is sufficient.
I'm concerned that this health and safety services must include upstream investment in youth prevention,
especially youth drug prevention, type of marijuana use, as well as early intervention for mental health conditions associated with substance use.
We're seeing increasing pressure on emergency department schools and child welfare systems, and prevention is consistently.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
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Home soil.
It's not a scenario.
But it's my three expressions.
And it's still matters legally.
Here's another item in George Bayouonion such as FIE.
It's signed by Chris for Irving.
Refunded the benefiters of this patch.
Such as Manuelo Ploma.
Who wants America to pay for Mexico sewage forever.
Gritter.
Calvars on the gris.
Because they want to cut for their salary, selfish.
The county claims the petition contains a sufficient number of valid signatures, but we know
that's not true.
We've seen the viral video of a homeless drug addict being paid in dollar bills, cigarettes,
and drugs to find even other petitions.
Nobody actually wants more taxes.
Nobody's voting for this fraud.
I just mentioned this petition going around about two months ago.
You want people to believe they got millions of signatures in that short time frame when people
asked them if they were getting paid to collect signatures and they admitted, yes, they
were.
This is 100% phony, which man is many specializes in, and it's 100% trob, which terrorist
specializes in, shame on you corrupt.
You can hear from a son of color.
And, well, here we go with another line.
I always know it is when the purple shirts turn up to speak begging for it.
They're flowering words.
You must have a page fee trader.
Anyway, no new text.
This is a scam.
It's interesting that an item TIN that was passed, that Tera said that the implementation plan was not ready yet, that it would be left up to the working team.
So how do we know this new task will be implemented according to what is written here? Anything for health and safety services?
Why aren't the lookout fire lookout towers maintained? There are a few that are closed and not being used because there is poor stage. Why were they not already maintained?
So this is a scam.
This is to get money to put into TEPT's pet projects.
Not to do anything for the county.
Let's.
You have no idea how you're going to use it. And why does one group get more money on another group doesn't? How does that work?
Thank you. I'm a chair-loss-and-remor that concludes public comment on this item.
Okay, thank you very much. I have a couple comments. Do any of my colleagues have anything to say?
Well, so I can just make a motion. Happy to do that.
Seeing no requests for my colleagues to speak, I'll just make a couple remarks on this.
I just first of all want to express my gratitude to the leadership of so many of the folks
who put this together.
So thank you for your work.
It's a lot of signatures together.
It's a lot of work.
And there's a lot of people who obviously really want to see this measure,
considered by the voters in November.
You know, that's just a lot of people to have signed, to sign this ballot measure.
So I hear that, and I think that to me, this is real evidence that people in San Diego
are deeply, deeply concerned about the Tijuana sewage disaster, about the devastating
cuts to health care and food assistance that our communities facing and that people remain
very committed to making sure that our 911 emergency response can be the best and can keep
us safe in even the worst conditions and even if the worst and most unthinkable happens to our
communities. And we began this conversation, I think, you know, over a year and a half ago,
when, in my state of the county, I mentioned my deep concerns about what was coming
at us, and what was coming towards our community in a new Trump administration. And I think
this San Diego County Health and Safety Services initiative rises to meet that moment. It offers
voters a powerful tool that people can choose to support, to protect our community, to defend
our community, to keep our water clean, to keep our hospitals open, and to make sure firefighters
and first responders have the tools that they need to keep us safe. Our job today is extremely
straightforward. This is the Citizens Qualified Initiative and the voters must decide on this
That has been placed or is being proposed to be placed on the ballot by the signatures of hundreds of thousands of voters.
So our role is not to adopt this measure ourselves.
We really only can and must, from an administrative standpoint, Joan Crackham from Wrong, just put this on the ballot.
I think my only concern is to ensure that the language is clear and accurate and sufficient.
We do want to ensure that voters have clear information so that they can make an informed decision.
I think that's really our only role here is to ensure that the language is clear and that the impact on our community is clear.
Because the information will be placed directly on the ballot.
So, with that, I would like to make the following motion and I think, Andrew, you have the
strike through changes that is to approve recommendation number one and then to approve
recommendation number two option number one with the following clarifying amendment to the
palette question in the attachment dereasolution to ensure as much transparency as possible
for the voters to have clear and accurate information.
So this is a funny one, but I was reading this in a lot of folks where not quite sure exactly
with the word mitigatement seem like a $100 word and we could probably have used a 10-cent
word.
So if we could just replace the word mitigate with clean up so that people actually know
what Ms. being written here and they're not confused.
Similarly, another, maybe this is a thousand dollar word
instead of a 10 cent word, I don't need to know
that we need to confuse people with the term
retail transaction and use tax.
Like, I don't know what that is, exactly.
I just, I think we can call it what it is,
which is a sales tax, and then seems
very important to add that an annual amount to be raised
until ended by voters, my understanding
that that was an oversight in the drafting of this ballot question by county council because
it's legally required to include that and so that and I know that it's estimated raised
450,000 so 400,450 million so that needs to be in there for transparency purposes and then
take no action on recommendation three. So that's my motion and yeah, hope to have support
from my colleagues. Thank you. Super is a dozen.
Thank you. I'm sure I appreciate it. I just don't think that was the right time to put
a half-cent sales tax in front of the people. It's, you know, the cost of everything is already
way too high. We're always surprised and you go to the grocery store or you go, you know,
close or car, you know, everything's just gone up and up and up.
This tax, is my understanding, there's no end to it, it's a forever tax, there's going
to be no end to this.
I agree with something, you know, the T you want to river, definitely needs to be dealt with,
but I do think we've got to be putting the pressure on Mexico.
We can not just throw more and more US money after that catastrophe that's happening
down there and we've got to get them to stop and make sure they keep their end of the
and often in creating the infrastructure that they need on their side, I think we have to put pressure on them as opposed to just putting more money after this.
I could support this if we went with item number one and two with option two, not option one.
We're talking about impact, we're talking about responsibility, transparency.
I think if we had an impact report, which is option 2, to then come back within 30 days after we see an impact report,
because I think that would be helpful to the citizens before they vote on it.
I realize today we're just putting it yes or no on the ballot.
I'm not going to be supporting this tax, but I would like to have an impact report.
So I'd like to see if you'd be open to choosing option 2,
at a recommendation number two, then I can support it.
Did you, in your proposal on option two,
I suppose, Desmond, it says this is option
across the board to schedule a special meeting.
Some time between July 25th and August 7th,
what day did you want to have that meeting?
I don't know.
Late July.
I birthed this July 27th.
You want to be four after?
Well, I can tell you July 27th is a Monday.
So I don't think you're going to want to be meeting on the Saturday.
I could do it.
I don't care.
Okay.
Well, we think about it.
It's obviously tossed out there.
I support option one, it doesn't change my, my, my, my, I support for option one, but just
wanted to make sure that if you're supporting option two, that it's a full proposal that folks
can think about because it would have to, we'd have to calendar that.
Um, two, by the way.
Thank you.
I just want to say that regardless where people stand on the substance of this proposal,
this is the democratic process.
And this has been an initiative that's been put forward by the citizens.
Our registrar of voters has certified that the petition qualifies.
I think the fact that so many people signed on to this petition knowing for what it is is
a reflection of the sentiment of our region.
And I think especially, I just want to speak obviously to the Tijuana River.
I think that all of us, whether you live literally in the affected area and are suffering
the harms of this pollution every single day in your daily life through being sick or losing
work or losing school, the reality is that the fixes aren't happening fast enough, Mexico is
not doing enough, Trump is not doing enough,
Biden didn't do enough, and that's just the reality.
Nobody's done enough, and that's why we're here.
And I see it as a way of the people of San Diego County
taking the bull by their horns and bringing a real source
of revenue that could truly bring relief.
We've made our efforts, and I'm thankful to this board,
for the efforts that we're making,
but that's like I said many times,
it's not going to solve the issue.
something of this caliber, something of this size can, and that's the most important thing
because if we wait for fixes alone to come from Mexico, we're going to be here 20
years, 30 years from now, and there's going to be people who have died, from cancer,
there's going to be people who have died from pneumonia, there's going to be people who
have died from other ailments that all of this contamination has a capacity to cause.
So, we don't keep our foot off the pedal, we continue to pressure Mexico, we continue to
pressure this administration, we continue to pressure the state as well.
There's been a lot of work that's gone on that my team and myself have done advocating
for many to come from the state as well in the last six months, but the reality is it's
not enough.
The people have spoken, this is a high priority for them, and we should just let the
Thank
you.
Vice Chairman, can we stop?
Yes, just briefly.
I want to thank the ROV for the work that goes in to certifying the initiative petition.
Thank you for that.
And congratulations to the coalition for securing enough signatures to make this ballot measure a reality.
The issues that this measure addresses are critically important for providing quality of life.
We all deserve.
We just been discussing that for the entire day.
So, they are important, that doesn't mean that we know the fate of the measure in November.
But I will continue to work with my colleagues and community partners to protect healthcare,
improve child care, public safety, address the Tijuana River, sewage crisis.
No matter what happens, but this is something that we, I think, can look forward to seeing where the county is when it comes to these issues
and how the vote will be reflected there.
So thank you again, everyone.
And I think this is more so procedural matter for us.
So with that, I'll go ahead and second option one.
OK, we have a motion for our next second.
Please vote.
Thank you, Chair Lauder, I just want to know
for the record that we added in the word annually,
as you noted, in your remarks into valid question.
I like it on the street.
OK.
And before we do, it's just clarifying that we really have to put this on the ballot.
It's just a problem, a question of how, but not whether we do it or not.
So, I'm just going to make sure that's clear for the record.
Thank you.
Chair Lawson, remember that motion passes was supervisor Anderson.
It's supervisor Desmond voting.
No, all of the supervisors being president voting.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
So we will now move on to our next item.
And this is an item that has been brought forward by District 4.
It's item 12, authorizing partner food distribution pilots at strategic kind of facilities
and hiding areas to mitigate California's work requirement displacements.
I sure do would you like to make some introductory remarks?
I will.
Yes.
Thank you so much for the opportunity.
Thank you to county staff and our community partners for your important work on the food distribution
and component of the Safety Net Bridge program.
Access to good nutritional food is a key determinative health.
Food is medicine.
Trajically and estimated 93,500 members of our community
are at risk of losing access to that medicine,
which is food.
And to a happier, healthier life due to the new Calfresh
work reporting requirements imposed by HR1.
This federally mandated change is anticipated
to increase food insecurity
in every county district.
The proposed action before the board today is designed to address that anticipated
food insecurity by targeting the 16 zip codes where families are expected to be hit the
hardest.
We would be utilizing existing county facilities and partnering with the Senegal Food Bank
and Feeding San Diego for emergency food distribution event to support hunger relief efforts.
It also supports on-site benefit enrollment and supplemental resources provided by
dedicated county staff as a part of the Sakinet Bridge program.
We know these wraparound services are crucial to assisting families looking for long-term
food security and stabilization resources during a time of significant change.
This is also funding for, there is also funding for potential home delivery services and
for distribution through other trusted community providers so that the county can stay nimble,
in addressing any service gaps that may be identified after program rollout.
We built in program flexibility so that we can best meet the needs of our residents as those needs evolve.
Staff will monitor and review reporting on an ongoing basis ensuring optimal utilization of county resources.
Supporting this proposed action will help prevent families in our communities from having to make tough decisions like food versus housing
food versus healthcare. It's both the moral and just action to support our
neighbors in their time of need. So I hope my colleagues will support this
item today and I can make the motion now that's fine but I can also wait until
after public comment.
I thank you very much. Would you like to first go to public comment or have board discussion?
Because we have people on the board who want to talk, but we can just go to public comment and do board discussion.
Yeah, that would be okay.
Well, apologies, Supervisor Anderson. We'll go to public comment and then we'll go to you.
Thank you, Chair Lawson. Remember, we have 30 requests to speak on this item.
13 in person and 17 in requesting to speak by phone. Also, no for the record that we receive three e-commerce, one in support and one neutral.
For any individuals that requested to speak on item 12 by phone, please dial in to the conference
on using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers, as your name is called, please come forward and
stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium.
You will have one minute to address the board, and I'll ask you to begin by stating your name
for the audio record.
I will call you in groups of three, so please listen for your name.
I'd like to invite for the first three individuals, Sam Duke, Noah Y. Yick, and Karina Pugh.
I have caught your name. Please come forward.
Good afternoon, my name is Sam Duke.
I'm a director of programs at Feeding San Diego representing families,
who are having to choose between groceries and gas between rent and food for their families.
Rising costs have pushed working families to the breaking point they've never faced before.
Last month at our school pantry at Duel Elementary,
serving primary military families, a mother of three told me that the food she's receiving
means her family has dinner for that evening.
Earlier this month, a new snap cuts may force even more San Diego families into food insecurity.
You're funding approval today would do more than just feed hungry families, though that
alone is transformational.
These dollars would allow us to strategically strengthen and expand our distribution network
that helps increase food rescue and provide more nutritious food year-round.
Right now, food assistance is increasing every single day.
Last month we served over half a million San Diego's across the county.
The families we sort of can't vote on this today.
But they are counting on your leadership on behalf of the feeding San Diego
and the thousands of families we see.
Thank you.
Speak in please.
Good afternoon.
Supervisors.
My name is Noah Yeek.
I'm a researcher with the Center on Policy Initiative.
There are times of charm today.
We are due to vote yes on item 12 and advance the food access component of the safety net bridge program.
Nutrition security is a human right.
Addiquity nutrition helps people stay healthy, care for their families, and live with dignity.
Right now thousands of Sandiagans are losing access to nutrition assistance or are at risk of losing it because of federal cuts.
We cannot allow cruel decisions in Washington to harm Sandiagans.
The food distribution pilot before you provides a strategic targeted response and includes measures to monitor outcomes.
and ensure support is meeting our community's needs.
The State Senate Bridge Program is how we put our values into action.
It says that in San Diego County, no one should go hungry,
no one should go without care, and we take care of each other.
Thank you.
Thank you invite four or three additional speakers,
allegedly Otra, Doyle Morrison, and Alicia Morrison.
Good afternoon, Supervisor.
It's Karina Peel again.
My pronouns are she here.
I'm here today on behalf of the San Diego LGBT Community Center.
asking you all to vote in support of this item.
As we continue to see the painful impacts of HR1
and the significant cuts to programs
that keep our communities fed, house,
and otherwise supported in an increasingly difficult economy,
we are seeing LGBTQ folks disproportionately
experiencing the impacts of these cuts.
At our center, our food banks,
and other programs supporting food assistance,
are experiencing higher volumes of traffic
than we've seen ever before.
This item is the county's opportunity
to be a bold leader, investing county dollars
to mitigate the harms from these cuts.
Please vote in support of this item to keep Sandy Ygensfad
and thank you to Vice Chair Montgomery
staff for her leadership on this.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Hello, Doyle Morrison.
I'm in favor of this food distribution,
but consideration for eligibility based on zip codes
is problematic.
In the San Diego County, many unincorporated communities
rely on zip codes assigned by two nearby incorporated cities,
Meaning their mail says the city name, but they are governed and taxed by the county rather than the city.
Notable unincorporated areas with city affiliated zip codes are Benita, Casa de Orra, Rancho San Diego, Fairbix, Rancho LaPresse and Lincoln acres.
These communities zip codes are not listed in this agenda item material as high impact zip code served.
The unincorporated communities are governed and taxed by the county rather than the city.
Please do not exclude some of the most vulnerable communities from the benefits they are going to get up.
Thank
you.
Next speaker.
Good afternoon, Alicia Morrison.
I support this, but there's a problem.
The problem is disparity to the community of Lincoln Acres.
Since the deprecation of the Lincoln Acres post office in 2011, Lincoln Acres has to share a zip code 91950 with a city in national city.
Lincoln acres is not national city. Lincoln acres has it had its own zip code 91947 that was established in 1925.
In your placement of this just strategic facilities, I am requesting Lincoln acres community room in Lincoln acres be placed on your list of facilities.
So, those in 9195, though, can benefit.
Do not deprive Lincoln acres from county programs at knowledge 9195-0 for this program.
Thank you.
As the next speaker is coming forward, I'll invite three additional speakers.
Marco Espinoza, Andrea Caldwell, and Edward Nietto.
Hopefully, nobody lights a match because the gasoline you've been dousing, the people in
will go up in flames.
It's interesting you talk about clear and accurate information, and then Monica, you're saying
that food is medicine, does your bending machine reflect that?
No, it has not, but it's cool because it's all about making money, right?
And it's just interesting the way you like to pull the heartstrings of people and act like,
you know, this is Trump's, this is I, Charon, you guys were engaged in giving benefits to
people who came across the border illegally.
You do what you're doing by eating a bedding and now the people are suffering the consequences
because it actually made it harder for people that need it to get it, because of your choices.
So you say here in you talk about transparency and accountability and giving clear and accurate information,
let's be real with the people.
And let's be real that you cannot silence free speech, no matter what you think, no matter what policy you put in place.
Next speaker, please.
Marco Espinoza, I'm in favor.
I do know a little bit about this,
I watched KPBS,
and they recently had the American on it,
of mentioning how HR1's new limitations
had started effective one this month,
the first of those months,
and they've already seen it up to.
HR1, we will, as the months go on, we'll see more of the effects, so while the need has grown
now, I'm sure there's better way to say that, but anyways, I think this is a great measure
to help those who are in need and getting the negative impacts of HR1.
So thank you for this measure.
Good afternoon, Andrea Caldwell, with the Jacobs and Kushman San Diego Food Bank, which is the region's leading hunger relief organization we serve every community here in San Diego County.
Each month we help on average 400,000 San Diego's across access nutritious food.
So we are already seeing the impacts of these federal policy changes.
In May, 83% of our emergency food assistance partners requested more food than the month
before.
So they were getting an average of 27% more food in just 30 days.
And our client choice pantry is also serving more people than any other point in this year.
The county safety net bridge program will help ensure food remains available to residents,
especially in communities where data indicates there is an expected need to grow and the
food bank has a long-standing commitment to using data to direct resources where they are
needed most and we commit to using 100% of these funds if approved to purchase food. We strongly
support this and thank you. Thank you. It's an ex-speakers coming forward. I'd like to
by the remaining speakers in person,
Alejandro Martinez, whom I are a Usefi, Michelle Krueg,
and Cynthia Fuller, Kenyounis.
Yes, good afternoon.
My name is Ed Nietto.
I'm appreciative of the county services
of work proposal in this area.
By do have a question.
I want to ask, as the others have mentioned here,
why wasn't the 9195 zip code included in the significant
significant, low-income population names that you have there.
So when I hear the areas that are hit, the hardest, not to include national city
and there seems to be little remiss.
I'm asking a question.
If there's a methodology on how you determine this, we'd like to hear it.
It would bring comfort to the community to see how this was decided.
And, you know, specifically what data was used to exclude the national city from the 16 highest impact zone,
the zip codes.
It's just important for the citizens to know that we're competing.
We'd like to know what the explanation is.
Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
If I've called your name, please come down to the arrows.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
in Humayra, Yusufi with Pana.
The safety net bridge program is an essential program
to provide access to meals and health care
to those who no longer receive these basic services,
thanks to Trump's attack on the poor working class
and on immigrants.
As a community level, we have hundreds of people coming
to us already telling us that their CalFresh
has been stopped or it's going to stop
and they don't know how to feed their families.
No child should go hungry in San Diego.
And, you know, at Panna, we host a food bank every week and we see hundreds of families
coming there and more programs are really needed.
These food distribution events will allow the county to respond to immediate needs
and build on an action plan to assist those most in need while simultaneously creating long-term
stabilization resources.
So we are judible.
Yes.
Thank you.
Please.
Hi.
Good afternoon Board of Surveysers.
I am fully, my name is Alejandro with Mitsity Can.
I am fully in support of item 12, food insecurity and vulnerable communities must be mitigated
and item 12 does just that.
However, I am deeply disturbed by the hate field comments about my district supervisor
that apparently has been used several times that's stated by the person who used this
filing harmful and misogynist language.
Supervisor Jim Desmond and Joe Anderson as men on this board and as men who have sworn to protect the woman that you work with in women in
community. You must be using platforms. You have at your disposal to address racist or misogynist remarks towards your colleagues who I know in the same vein would protect your personhood
This isn't about politics. This is about what's right and where I'm morality lies as professionals and colleagues in this work
We are here to work together and a blip one another not to collaborate not to tolerate divisive and violent behavior
that is not it what is in our court of ethics nor what is outlined in the court of civil discourse which is attached to the county's rules of procedure for these meetings
Anyone can and should access this document.
Thank you.
Expect a please.
Michelle Krug again.
I very much appreciate of this pilot project and the fact that there is that the focus on equity.
I do have heard a couple of concerns.
One of them, I'm surprised that National City of Code would not have been one of
the 16, and the other thing is that it's, I've been hearing and I don't know enough about
it, that South Bay doesn't have enough of the larger refrigerations that are allowed that
are capable of accepting pallets of food so that there just might be an issue of somehow
being able to make sure that each part of the county has that capability and South Bay
in particular if it doesn't have that that maybe there's grants or things that we can follow
upon.
Thank you.
Next speaker please.
Good afternoon, supervisors.
I'm Cynthia Kenyona.
I'm speaking today as a former county of San Diego, South region, food and security work group co-chair and health activists in the South region for more than 20 years.
In addition to my written comment, I feel compelled to speak on the admission of national city zip code as we've heard from other speakers.
Perhaps this is an error or perhaps there's a separate plan for national city.
However, without confirmation of either of us speak against the Planes written, there are
two key points.
One, the County of San Diego cannot afford to exclude 9195O, and its Plan Safety
NEPRIDGE actions were one of the most food and secure areas of the county, and that supported
by the most recent reporting from the South region leadership team meeting prepared by county
staff.
Secondly, national city warrants direct investment in its food responders and their
long critical need for a shared cold storage.
It's been missing. Thank you.
Well, now, here from the individuals that requested to speak my phone, we'll start with our first
caller.
Well, we're both High National City. Remember, this is a pilot program, not an actual program.
Anyway, great idea, but just as the last one, 500,000 fund events and pay for food staff
And so, all of the cost is, hopefully there will be donations because I proved this
proof of reducing the unlocked reserves for a pilot program which may or may not work out.
The reserves should be for what we know will work.
Also, in the cared for on head 5, the program would serve different number of zip codes, presumably a different number of people at the same cost, which is higher and more likely.
But another idea would be to hold based on the community garden or farm work.
Thank you, and here from the next caller.
Next caller is Consuelo, your device might be muted,
and Consuelo left the session.
We'll go to the next caller.
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors, and Riddles here.
I have some concerns about this as a re-retired social worker.
The first paragraph of the board letter
indicates that 93,500 individuals may face a sudden reduction.
That means there's still plenty of opportunities, and their individuals are not families.
We're not talking about children.
We're talking about those who are adults who, for whatever reason,
haven't registered or can't register, won't register.
But seem to be able to work, or to volunteer, or to take a class.
I'm not really sure why we're beholding to 92,000 people who can't or won't do that.
I think we are anticipating something that we don't know has happened, and we don't know will happen.
Very fantastic.
It's great.
Well, here from the next caller.
It's
truth, care, the million dollar words are eradicate, grift, and fraud, because we've got
one million dollars on food fraud going on as an excuse to fund Jacob's Christian
crypters with three-figure salaries.
The county claims 93,500 individuals may face reduction or elimination of Calth-Restressions,
AKA government-controlled medicine, like Calth-Rest Tax Fair Fund at Candy bars, which proves
how much fraud is going on with say welfare.
The county claims 314,000 individuals will have to actually work, which proves that there's
of able-bodied adult who are lazy and refuse to get a job to take care of themselves,
racist, ethics, and manuela included.
So, I counter that the county needs to invest in an independent auditor now.
Has there ever been verification that all of the medical recipients are actually alive
or cared for, because Rolanda, Maria, proposed in terrorist districts, has never known.
Is it funding by zip code, a form of unconstitutional discrimination?
At the county's claim of order is 7,500 processors was true that it's time for intervention.
Don't be a leering center, especially when Americans are beef at record rate.
Thank you.
Here for the next caller.
Good afternoon. My name is Erin Brennan Burke.
On behalf of Family Health Centers of San Diego,
speaking in strong support of item number 12,
our team see every day in our clinic,
how reliable access to new precious food is fundamental to health.
Federal changes under HR1 are already making it harder for patients to enroll in and maintain
child-fresh benefits, even when they are eligible, increasing food insecurity in already
vulnerable communities. We appreciate the Board's proactive efforts to respond before
these impacts weresen. County collaboration with trusted partners like the Food Bank and
feeding San Diego will help meet the scale of demand and ensure residents in need do not go hungry,
especially in highly impacted neighborhoods. Thank you.
Thank you. Here from the next caller.
Yeah, how funny. There's a word mitigated again.
And Tara thinks the constituency is ignorant.
Medicate does not mean enhanced. Just read the whole thing.
You don't need an explanation or a change of the wording.
I've attended these meetings on five years and the problems are the same
and unchanged homelessness due to drugs and mental health issues.
Congress, marginalized communities, and over the Biden admin millions of illegal immigrants
who are not new Americans being granted special privilege and never ending freebie, draining
the county's resources, helping to put it in this problem regardless of what the Trump
administration has done.
This board policies have failed,
letting the dollars waste as evidenced by the same
activist in NGOs and curfell shirts,
begging for money year after year almost meeting after meeting.
Work hours are volunteer hours must be mandatory for the
able-bodied single without dependence.
This will help lift these individuals,
and allow them to exit the stranglehold.
You're from the next dollar.
Not
only Rashdie here, I stand with a community budget alliance and Leah.
I think it's important that we see people who need to eat.
Regardless of how we got here, we still are community that needs to work together
and people need to eat.
The stress with the milk, good day center closing.
And these cuts and HR1, all of it, is getting to the people.
And if you can't eat, it's literally deteriorates your mind.
We have to support each other and this rough spot, no matter how we got here.
Thank you.
We're here for the next college.
My name is Laura Wilkinson, since in the community activist and later I've stopped to
switch.
First, I want to thank all of the supervisors for those on items 10 and especially 11 the
initiatives that we've been begging for here in the South Bank.
Item 12, this pilot facing it, is critical for the least amongst us.
I know many acid-duty military families who get their month-end food from food banks.
So many will fall through the cracks in the testing calfresh and your action tier will
save lives and the future of children by providing food and adequate nutrition.
I want to thank you for your leadership and improving item 12, assuring that we use our
tax fair funds for the public goods.
We don't want San Diego to go in hungry for whatever reason.
Thank you.
Have a nice call.
Good
afternoon, my name is Megan. I live in District 4 and work with the San Diego Refugee
Community Coalition. I'm calling for voice or strong support for agenda item 12. We strongly
support the recommendation to partner with trusted community based orgs especially to carry
this work forward. We know that for refugee immigrant communities, these partners are really
essential for sharing information, primary languages, and culturally responsive ways so that
families can really understand and access what they need. So we urge the county to keep community
the Center of Implementation to ensure resources reach those most impacted.
Thank you so much for your leadership and consideration.
Thank you.
We'll hear from the next caller.
Good afternoon.
My name is Raymond.
I work with the San Diego refugee communities coalition.
I'm calling today to voice my support for this item, especially because it really highlights
the disproportionate harm these federal policy changes will have on the refugee and immigrant communities
that are organizations each work with.
Many of our community members will lose access to essential services that will have an overall
effect on their health and quality of life.
We know that our refugee and immigrant communities will be hit the hardest by these changes
and we wanted to advocate for taking a community-led approach to help community members navigate
these new requirements and help make sure that we can mitigate the loss of access to CalPERS benefits.
And that can really effectively be done through community partnerships that will allow us
community members in their primary languages and meet them where we're at. So that's why
we strongly support this item, and especially the recommendation of partnering with trusted
community providers to ensure that our communities are supported. Thank you very much.
Good afternoon.
This is Rita De LaFonte calling on behalf of the San Diego Hunger Coalition
who supports item 12, which HR with HR1's CalFresh changes taking effect quickly moving food
an on-site benefit to some of our hard-hit neighborhoods as a step in the right direction
and we thank Vice Chair Montgomery Step for her leadership.
As the county builds the living map this action calls for, targeting can be sharpened with more
data on the eligible but not enrolled population, including both the number of potential in
rollies and the participation rate. That perspective keeps smaller, high-rate communities
a priority when they might have been overlooked by population-based metrics and services where
immigrant mix status and rural households might be missed by in-person events.
As more residents lose eligibility under HR1, ensuring everyone who remains eligible is successfully
enrolled is more critical than ever. This is the one-time bridge and we encourage the county.
And we'll now hear from our final caller.
I'm going to follow here and thank you for coming back to me, Andrew.
Let's see, give them a fish and they'll eat for the day.
Teach them to fish and they'll never go hungry.
This is just another typical big government item,
a slave mentality item, really.
It keeps the people under the illusion that they need government to take care of them,
Furthering the programming that the people themselves aren't enough, that they're incapable of survival and being independent from big daddy government.
More lies, more abuse, you know, how about investing in teaching the needy to send for themselves, invest in lifting up humanity, not keeping them down and reliant.
But, you know, that doesn't keep the system alive, and that's all you guys are about
having the people under submission and control and pretty unfortunate.
I'm sure you'll also remember that concludes public comment on this item.
Okay, turn the floor to Supervisor Anderson.
I'd like to thank my colleague for bringing this forward.
This is a great idea, and I just so appreciate it.
I also want to thank the Food Bank and feeding San Diego for their participation, their hard work.
And I believe that they need a commitment to do this without overhead, which is amazing.
I do have a consideration, I like to bring before you, a possible amendment.
We put up slide one, when looking at areas of highest vulnerability, you know, just
put the numbers in perspective, in D2, the loss of calfresh benefits is at 44% higher than
three of the districts put together.
And the communities of 91906, 91963, and 91980,
as you see in the map, are the highest level of vulnerability.
And when I went through this, we have a lot of distribution
in Spring Valley, in Spring Valley is not of the same level of need.
In fact, two of the locations are within a mile of each other.
What I'd like to be concerned, by the way, if you live in 91906,
the closest location is Spring Valley.
And that's Spring Valley locations over 31 miles, one way.
And to put it in perspective, in 91980,
the household income is 21 to 49,000 depending on the track you're in.
And in 919-63, it's 10354, that's household income for the year.
So these are people that are not going to be driving 30 miles one way to get these benefits.
And yet, these are the ones that have been hit the hardest already over the last two months.
I'm asking is that we request that 12 of the distributions proposed for spring value location.
Be moved to those three districts, those three zip codes.
And I would leave it to a staff, by the way,
we can pull-ups like to get a better idea.
But we do have some locations.
I know that Amazon is partnering with feed San Diego distributing seven practices and seven
lunches during the summer, and maybe we could use a program like that.
But I was hoping
you could take that as a friendly amendment, so that these folks, the people who are greatest
in need, who are in the poorest of poor, would have access. It's not an easy ask,
is a logistics issue, but I know you're hard, so I'm feeling pretty good about this.
I just want to, because I know there were layers of information and data that were used
for the final product here, my only ask before we change it is what are the food banks doing
and in the air.
Well, is that them out in pires that the, okay?
It's not in part.
What are the, because there's two things.
One is we had, we took in a consideration,
I believe what was already there,
as far as food banks are concerned,
and the work that they're doing there.
And then we had the additional $500,000 allocation
that we would use to fill any of the gaps
that these six distribution centers are not feeling right.
That would include delivery services.
It would include being more specific to the needs.
It would prefer to do that, but I'd like to make it
not open to them all the time.
Yeah, they're clear, they're clear.
I want to make sure it's clear that we're going there.
Because already, 44% of these folks have already been hit.
And you're the second largest shockingly district one who's not that high, in terms of cuts.
Well, I guess just asking what would that do logistically to change in one of the spring valley locations?
We can either do that or we can specify of the 500,000 that some of that will be used specifically for additional support to the mountain empire.
Which I think may even be a better way to do it because there may be more specific needs in the community that require home delivery or other kind of distribution of the food.
So that is just where I'm at.
But yes, let's try to get there.
Do you want to ask staff what they would prefer?
Because as long as it's covered, I'm getting a quibble over how we get there.
Right.
the Spring Valley locations aren't of the highest need.
However, there are next to three of the communities
in your district.
There are of the highest need, I think.
But two, yeah, between D4, also some in D1,
I think Spring Valley is covering.
And also just thinking about the facilities
to that the county has, which you did bring that up
in Mountain of Fire.
But what would be the preference for staff?
What would be easier?
Thank you for that question through the chair.
I think one B does provide us the most flexibility in meeting the needs of that specific area.
So agree that if we could just use at $500,000 and tailor the food distribution whether it be home delivered
or if we find a site, we'll do something there.
Can you have your office reach out to our office because we have contacts in those communities
And then just too often, you know, some of these people don't have Internet, some of these people, I mean they're, it's object poverty, and maybe they have Internet, but they don't have access because they can't afford access.
So, we have teams that go out there from time to time, knock on doors.
I'd really like to find out, you know, what you're thinking, and then we want to make sure that we push that out, so that nobody slips to the cracks.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Is that good with you?
I'm good with that.
Thank you.
Wonderful.
It's your resume.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Well, I want to start off by thinking.
Vice here.
I'm going to accept for your leadership on this.
It's incredible work and it's incredibly important.
And it's just so unfortunate that here we are.
And we heard from the major food hubs, food distribution hubs in the entire county.
how significant the increase in need has been
and how much families are suffering.
But I did want to,
so I wanted to address two of the comments that I heard,
the lack of a refrigeration center in South Bay,
that's correct, it's on my radar.
We're looking at options.
It's something more longterm outside of this particular discussion,
but complimentary to it.
And secondly, the possibility of looking at 9195 zeros
as some of the commentators said.
So yeah, and I will turn it over to step
of what my understanding of 9195 zero is right now.
There are about 23 distribution sites in the zip code
that the food bank actually does,
we would have to check and see if that is accurate, right?
I know there have four schools as well, but I want to check and make sure that's the case.
Even if it is the case, if there is again a way through the one-be allocation, if we could call out supporting that zip code,
And as we do the analysis of what is actually available and making sure that we communicating
consult with District 1 on that as a code when it comes to that additional $500,000 allocation.
I think that would probably be the best way that way, even if we have these distribution
sites, if there's gaps in that right that we can, or again, home delivery, there's other
methods of trying to get the food to people as they need.
And so I think that will provide the most flexibility if you're happy with that.
I would welcome that thank you and especially for the, you know, the case of Lincoln
Acres being lived in with National City and maybe we're pulling data from National City
potentially that we're not accounting for maybe some of the unincorporated areas.
So I appreciate that and your amenability to looking at that.
Thank you.
Oh, and I don't know if there's this, well, I'm making a motion.
I'll set your motion, vice chair.
I'm a motion from vice chair to second, from the chair.
Supervisor Desmond.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Just, I plan on supporting, but one of these, I think I need to address.
This HR1 seems to be the hammer, the tool that seems to get mischaracterized.
I think by a lot of people in some of our speakers as well,
the CalFresh is going to go away if people are going to not be eligible.
The new requirement for CalFresh only applies to people 18 to 64 years old,
who are able-bodied single and don't have children in the age of 14.
The only requirement is they have to volunteer or go to school 20 hours a week
where they have a job and they have to submit paperwork twice a year now instead of once a year.
Those are the new requirements.
So everybody that was eligible before is still eligible.
This CalFresh feature just kicked in a few weeks ago,
so we're going to see how it all works out.
And the same thing with the MetaCal.
Again, this is able-bodied people are being asked to work.
And like I said, they can go to school or cake and volunteer
for up to 20 hours a week.
It's very simple, it's very easy.
And even here in the board letter, it says they're at risk.
It doesn't say they're going to be losing.
So a lot of people, I think, are overblowing this HR1, when it's really just has some work requirements in our volunteer requirements.
And I do have a question, I guess, I'm going to be supportive today.
But the zip code thing kind of throws me, and I think one of the speakers I've mentioned that too.
The zip codes are just because of where you're mailing address.
It doesn't necessarily mean you qualify or not.
So if there's a way, and I know maybe the food banks already do this don't they have a qualification process or something like that for people that come in
It just it seems to be a net with a bunch of holes in it at this point type who banks have in a lot of
In partnership with the her coalition do almost real time data, so they have data
Okay, and it is based on zip code just because
that's, you know, unfortunately.
Well, I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole.
We've been there already, but they do have data.
Also, the county, we have data.
We have, of course, the role of people that are eligible
for CalFresh and at risk, that's where the number comes from.
So I don't, you know, if we're not targeting it based on the need,
based on the data that we collect, then it really becomes
very arbitrary and that we're trying to base it as much as possible on data.
Well, and I agree with that, but there's just, there's somebody who's not in one of these
zip codes and they show up and they have a need. I want to make sure that they also have the
opportunity to act. Absolutely. And the hardest part about this is that the need is great regardless
of the community that we're talking about. This is just because we're trying to be as we have a
that's all day. Fiscally prudent, we're trying to do the best we can for the most amount of people for the most efficient cost.
That's really where this comes into play. You leave it up to me, I'd make sure that everybody has food, no matter what.
Okay.
Back to you, right, sure.
All right.
Just a couple of quick things, and I do appreciate the discussion, of course, that's why things come to the board,
because, again, we're all elected by our constituency
and we know our districts, right?
So I do appreciate the additional input.
I believe that the South County
live well-centered here may be actually in 950,
but regardless, we'll consult with D1
to make sure that we're clear on all of that.
And so the community, thank you for coming out
and asking the questions.
I just want to say this, like, it does not give me pleasure to sit in the seat and say that
93,000 people are at risk.
It doesn't give me pleasure.
I don't need to hit someone with that that doesn't agree with me on everything.
Like this is not fun to say that, but it is a reality that there are more people at risk.
And that is just something that having gone through COVID,
having gone through the floods,
that it really was on my heart to try to be proactive.
And the thing is a big, big, big part of this that I think is important
is the data collection because if the need is less,
then we will spend less money and it will come back into our general fund.
And that will be a victory, right?
Like, I'm not, this is not where I want to be,
but I think it's where we need to be right now.
We have to be proactive.
I think a re-determination, and those requirements
that ARM1 brings in has shown us across the nation
that when states do re-determination,
people automatically fall off the rolls,
because oftentimes they don't have the time
or the knowledge to bring their paperwork in every six months.
So it has these practical implications,
and we're just trying to mitigate for that's all.
And if we don't have to spend the money,
I think we'll all be very happy about that, and we can use it elsewhere.
The data will tell us that, and it's very important that we keep that data, and then we don't just say,
go off and spend the money without understanding what the need is.
So I appreciate the conversation here, and I'm done so.
Yeah, I'm done. Thank you.
Okay, thank you very much for the motion for the second.
I'll put this up.
Sure, I'll have to remember that motion passes you in, honestly.
The law supervisor is being present in voting aye.
Okay.
Great.
A little more than I move on to item 13.
So this is the continued item.
And Joel, this was your item initially.
Sorry, it's super, it's interesting.
So you're like to say a couple words.
Yeah, I like to present it real fast because hopefully it saves time when public comment
it's not in it.
So, just to bring people to speed on April 21st, the Board,
unanimously approved, Dr. Kankhini staff, to provide a board policy requiring
board ad hoc subcommittees to undertake several actions to ensure transparency
in public access to meetings. The recommended actions included public
posting of meeting agendas prior to the subcommittee meetings,
allowing the public to view the meetings and making the meeting minutes available to the public.
These mirror the standard transparency actions the board takes under our regular board meetings.
Although they're continued to support, there's continued to be support for adopting an apology
to provide the public with information and access to the board at HAC subcommittee meetings.
Some board members have raised concerns that some information
discussed during these meetings may need to be kept confidential.
I agree.
This, we need to be able to protect the personal information
of juveniles, but there's already protections in state law.
The county can't violate state law.
The recommendations in item 13 would not change
those protections.
Vice-transparency Actions to be taken by the Board at Hacksaw Committees, allows the Board to waive this policy
when necessary to do so to protect confidential information. Here's the rub. However, without this policy
in place, the public will continue to be completely shut out of numerous decisions being made by the
people. So, that's always the minority of the board. And I'm giving an example in not trying
to pick a fight, but this is a great example. During our board and Hacks subcommittees
on juvenile justice meetings, critical information and testimony may not be delivered by the
chief probation officer, the Council of Juvenile Justice Administrators, the Juvenile Justice
division, law enforcement officials, and youth advocacy groups.
There's currently no way for the public or other board members to access that vital information,
these officials and individuals have provided to these at-hoc subcommittees.
Other at-hoc subcommittees are making critical spending decisions, totaling tens of millions
of dollars that are only known by the public and other board members once they have been brought
before the board in final form.
We're not seeing how this stuff.
All the board subcommittees I've done are posted.
The testimonies are posted.
In any member of this board, in real time,
can track it, although we're not communicating.
It's available to the public, so it's
available to the board.
It doesn't violate the Brown Act.
Now, by adopting this new board policy,
A75, this board can demonstrate that it's serious about providing transparency in public access
to information considered by the board members in real time, while continuing to protect
the information that should be kept confidential.
I'd like to offer an amendment to my own board letter, and I think you have a copy of
If you wouldn't mind putting it up, I want to be sensitive to those confidential items.
And I want to protect children.
But I spent 12 years as the Vice Chair of Public Safety in the state legislature.
We had plenty of youth who testified before our committees.
We were able to meet the law, protect the kids, and still make sure that the public understood.
But so we would provide summaries of what the youth would provide in testimony, but all
of the adults in the room.
Their testimony was immediately made available for folks to follow.
So with this, it says notwithstanding the foregoing in the ad hoc subcommittee, may meet
off-identially on any topic which the Ralph M. Brown Act would permit a
legislative body to meet in close session. If not already covered by the
Brown Act or state law, state law covers juveniles. So that would
already be there. If an antaxelc community decides to meet
confidentially, the co-chairs must communicate the need and justify
for holding a confidential meeting to the other board members
and chief CAO in clerk of the board in County Council.
So in other words, you would automatically
be covered by state law, so you could absolutely
protect the youth or any item, say it's a personnel item,
say it's another sensitive item,
absolutely you'd have the right to do it because that would
be covered by the Brown Act if this was a full board.
So that would be the guardrails to make sure
that we're not doing it.
But if you had law enforcement and they were
giving testimony or you were asking AI experts and you had a subcommittee, you know, a panel
of AI experts. Everybody would have access to that, they'd be able to see it, they'd be
able to understand it. And, you know, when you have an open process like that too, one of
the things I like is we did receive emails from folks with additional questions or with
of who we brought in the next round of questioning, and that we covered all the topics.
Now, much of it I have to admit when people submitted it to us, it wasn't relevant.
They didn't fully understand the subject matter, and they had a good idea, but the idea
was against the law.
So that was not something that would get any traction.
But we're missing out on that input, and frankly, I'm missing out as a board member when these things
come before us and I have no way of knowing how that decision was made.
When it comes to a board in staff does it, we have staff to a presentation and we can ask
all the expertise of the staff but now we're going outside of the staff and not seeing what
they're saying, not hearing, not hearing what they're saying and not seeing what they're suggesting
is very, very problematic, so I'm hoping I solved the transparency issue by putting big
guardrails in place over things that need protection in the meetings and individuals that need
protection in the meetings or subject matter. Thank you, ma'am, Chair.
Okay.
By the way, it's a motion.
It's a motion.
It's a motion where to pass the item as drafted with the addition of C and a second from
Supervisor Desmond, who will now go to public comment.
Thank you, Chair Lawson Rimmer.
We have 44 requests to speak on the side of 18 and a person in 26 requesting to speak
by phone.
Also, note for the record that we received 90 comments, all of those, and support.
For any individuals that requested to speak on item 13, my phone, please dial in on the
conference line using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speaker, as your name is, call, please come forward and stand
on the arrows until it is returned to speak at the podium because there are ten or
more speakers on the side of me.
You'll have one minute to address the board, and I'll ask you to please begin by
stating your name for the audio record.
Be calling you in groups of three, so please listen for your name.
The first three individuals are Ryan Holmes,
Brett of Lindstrom and Dolly Madison.
Good
afternoon, my name is Ryan Holmes,
and thank you for your time.
I'm here speaking in support of agenda item 13.
The weight of public view into the discussions we're having today
is obvious in your behavior and how you speak to one another,
And the diplomacy that requires and the thoughtfulness and the care that that requires, and that might also be an argument for this measure, much of what becomes ordinance finds its origin in ad hoc committees.
And in the absence of public view, many things can occur in gain legs and momentum that may not be in the public interest, but might serve an individual interest.
So, there's a fair amount of argument for, though it may seem less than elegant to have that kind of input.
There's a tremendous amount of value in having that kind of oversight from your fellow constituents, right?
In real time. So, I thank you for your time.
Good question.
Thank you. Next speaker, please.
Hello.
Brie Tillenström District 3 and yes, I support transparency to board-created ad hoc committees.
Thank you. This proposal is truly transparent, and we must end secret subcommittee meetings.
Let the constituents be informed of these crucial conversations.
Obviously, the state-mandated private privacy aspects will be protected.
And so I assume that this is going to be passed unanimously, right?
Since you all have stated endorsement of transparency, right?
So, I'm looking forward to the vote.
And thank you, supervisor Anderson.
Thank you.
I'd like to invite four or three more speakers.
Oliver Twist, allegedly Audra and Doyle Morrison.
Madison.
I strongly support item 13.
We need transparency and need to know where the sausage is made.
The people spoke when voters voted for a specific term for you supervisors.
Today you voted yourselves longer terms, unless you're a hypocrite.
This means you are all okay when President Trump, if he extends his term.
I also like to add today, Tecalote Canyon, especially on the Cowley Wayside, is a San Diego
wildfires, ticking time bomb, and we need people out there to trim back and weed abatement.
Preventative measures like that are what help us from having all these people homeless
on the is one avenue that helps from so many people ended up homeless and in the streets
or wherever they can be.
Today we discussed millions of dollars for organizations that were passed for food, housing,
wrap around the service of the attorneys and get me. Thank you. Thank you. Time is up. Thank you.
Next speaker please.
Hello, my name is Doyle Morrison and I am in favor and support of this
before us because it's important to have the transparency so that everyone can pay attention to what's going on.
I spoke with a gentleman at lunch at the break, and we had this conversation about concern
about privacy for some of the children that are happening, and I believe Joel Anderson's
amendment has taken care of that so that they can be protected and the people can stay informed.
I believe that you guys can all agree that this is a win-win if we can have the transparent
and we can protect the children. Thank you for the concern.
Thank you. It's the next speakers coming forward on
the three additional speakers. Alicia Morrison,
Martha Espinoza and David Ray.
Hi, yes. Good afternoon. Mary Davis,
I hate Oliver Twist.
And I'm strongly in favor of this.
And I do consider myself a seasoned veteran of this chamber.
And I have to say that my four or five years of being here,
even I am confused about how policy comes forward and gets crafted.
It seems too much has done behind closed doors in the darkness.
I'm saying, bring it all out and you hold your boards and commissions to that standard.
So I don't understand why you would not hold every of your committee save those that do
truly require sensitivity like juveniles, and et cetera.
I'd also like to bring up this time, this might be the perfect time I've worked with
your financial office and to for the county reserve tracker real time dashboard.
So I would like maybe also to think about this in some kind of transparency, just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
I did send it and I had AI create it's a beautiful dashboard. It links to every vote you would do.
So please bring that forward as transparency.
Thank you. I'll hear from the next speaker.
Good afternoon, Alicia Morrison.
It is nice to stay informed.
The preemble of the Brown Act states, public commissions, boards, councils, and other legislative bodies of local government agencies exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business.
The people do not yield their sovereignty to bodies that serve them. The people insist on remaining informed to retain control over the legislative bodies they have created.
For example, right now, San Diego Parks Advisory Committee is missing April and May minutes from the website.
So you can't even go and review what business was conducted at those meetings.
Let's support this. I've seen nothing wrong with it.
If there is private, sensitive material redacted, if there is a concern for a private
individual information exposed,
this might help.
Thank you.
Good afternoon,
Board.
My name is Dave Ray.
I live in Spring Valley District 1.
And today this afternoon and this morning we've seen quite a lot of animosity of the citizens
against the board members, for how you're conducting your work.
A while back, there was another huge situation with the placement of the minicab and shelters
in Lemming Grove against the visciferous opposition by the citizens of Lemming Grove in Spring Valley.
However, you have an amazing opportunity in front of you right now to redeem yourselves
and to repair this situation by showing this that you really really do care about the citizens.
I support supervisor Anderson's idea and I urge you to strongly support it as well
because it will give you an opportunity to really show accountability and transparency.
Thank you.
Thank you. It's the next speaker's coming forward. I'll invite three additional speakers.
Alejandro Martinez, whom I already a Siffie and Rama Opti.
I am in favor of this item. Thank you to supervisor Anderson for bringing it forward.
Him and I sit on different sides of the aisle, but in my time and coming to Board of Supervisors,
meeting meetings, I found it to be very kind, reasonable, often funny, but very strong-hearted
So I thank him for this and the second from Supervisor Desmond and just to wrap up for
Item 12, sorry, hunger, pain, and lust are all very strong mode of being factors and
Food and security has both physiological and psychological effect and mitigating that
Helps the wider computing in various ways.
Thank you.
Can you speak up please?
Hi.
Thank you.
Good afternoon again.
Board of Supervisors.
My name is Alejandro.
Supervisor Joe Anderson.
I'm glad you brought up the juvenile justice ad hoc subcommittee because it's exactly
what I'm going to allude to.
While transparency is so important, you know, I work in the juvenile justice landscape
and transparency is something that we're always trying to overcome, especially with
certain agencies that work in this county.
And what we have been able to do in the ad hoc as is is the reason why we had so many young
people come in today and present and share their stories.
So I would really encourage any form of the changing of any ad hoc that you advise the young
people in that juvenile justice ad hoc subcommittee if this is something they want.
So we should be centering these young people as we're making these decisions about meetings
that are centering their voices, their stories, right?
And so if we disrupt that juvenile,
we're going to disrupt a lot of the powerful work
that we're doing right now in the county.
So I would just recommend that you think twice
about what we're trying to do here.
Thank you.
Thanks, Speaker, please.
Good afternoon.
My name is Rahma Abdi.
I'm with the Pana, and also resident of district four.
I'm here to oppose an item 13.
Our organization worked with immigrant and refugee communities.
We support transparency and accountability, however, I do not support this proposal.
We already have many rules, meetings, and public process.
In the final decision always made by the board.
Our community are important because they help supervisor discuss the new issue and respond
to the community needs quickly.
They are created to address specific issues and provide recommendation.
And I ask you also vote no on this item.
Thank you.
the next speaker is coming forward. I'll call three additional speakers,
move homin, Alexander
Valentin, and Michelle Krueg. I've called your name, please, come forward.
This won't pass. Porque as thas, trasputas, dieron cano. That's why. And it's interesting because
you guys don't want to be transparent what's actually going on with the children. And that's
what's so nefarious but all things and done in the dark will come to the light. And it's
interesting that we think, or someone here thinks that Joel and Jim took an oath to protect
Paloma's feelings, but if I want to say punta, verga, culo, negra, estubila, I mean,
kekata, shakatina, mirad, whatever I want to say, I can, it's protected under free speech,
and that's what you took an oath to uphold. So you can sit here and be offended all
you want, but you sat there and you said, I love when you guys go up there and you love
use your free speech. You want to impede it every chance you get. That's a violation of the
lines that you guys have for litigation. So I suggest you stop. And I can say Punta, put
that whatever all I want.
Next speaker please. I've called your name. Thank
you.
Michelle Krug and I guess I've been spoiled with the City of San Diego because all of the, and I
You know there's a difference between ad hoc committees and standard committees, but I've always been able to see when a committee is meeting in my government, in my city government.
So I really would appreciate knowing that, knowing what the topics are, even being able to just give that feedback, even if it wasn't at the meeting.
But I do think it's important that that be all calendered, so we do know that that's happening and what the topics are.
I'm on the persons with disabilities committee and even a baby committee like that.
We adhere to the Brown Act, so I would like to see that happen with all of our committees.
Thank you.
Thank you, like to write forward additional speakers, lucky Aiden,
Brett of Lindström, and DeAndrey Brooks.
Good afternoon, supervisors, lucky Aiden, district four,
resident with Hannah, Hannah poses this item,
because we don't believe that adding more bureaucratic hurdles
help increase transparency and oversight in the government.
We do believe that making meetings public is important,
providing meeting notes, and so on.
But those are already part of the eye-hark.
at Hark community procedures are ready.
The at-hark community procedures for those
in juvenile justice uncovered real issues
and now O.C. sprays is no longer used
going to be used on our youth.
We urge you to vote no on this item
because vulnerable communities should have a safe
place to bring up critical and emerging issues.
Thank you.
And a final call for homirious FE Muhammad,
Alexander Valentin, Deander Brooks,
not seeing those individuals.
We're now here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone.
We will start with the first caller.
Good afternoon, again.
This is Kathleen LeBent and I think supervisor Anderson,
for his thoughtful and well-focused comments about his item here.
I'm 13.
Absolutely supported.
There is more transparency is always necessary.
The public is already challenged in navigating the county's website or agenda's staff
report, the bureaucratic language that's used.
We did not need any more that is obscured under the cloak of politicization.
So thank you.
And I hope that you will support this item.
And thank you again to provide your Anderson.
Thank you.
We'll hear from the next caller.
All about the figures that this was blessed by them on their original agenda.
You just don't want to reveal your dirty little secrets.
You mentioned privacy, need to see privacy.
Every little excuse you can find, but you know what?
It's all government stuff, all discoverable.
That was the voice of San Diego, PRA,
who was a public worker, that philosophy is all about.
We're viewing government's third-year-old secrets.
The new policy looks good, great job.
This will definitely increase the transparency,
submitting, and that seems to ensure
why their description of it is an opinion
when it comes to discussing proving meeting topics.
Pernson's criminal justice,
I'm sure the board warden to want us to know
would you change it?
It did.
You're from the next caller.
That's one fellow here.
I'm just a tear-pain attention and seen.
But the others are saying, and yeah, it's good to see
and drunken zombie in the chambers.
Glad you're back at it, paying attention.
But let's see.
Got to follow how long the item.
What do you think?
Thank you.
Well, here from the next call.
Barbara Gordon.
I urge you to adopt this board policy A75
that will clearly identify the actions up
any ad hoc subcommittee.
This policy is necessary to ensure
the public a level of transparency and accountability that continues to be missing from this
board.
Your constituents need to be informed of the actions taken by all ad hoc committees, particularly
when important policies and financial matters are being discussed and acted upon.
County residents deserve access to the subcommittee meetings and information.
And there needs to be rules and guidance for the operation of these committees.
There needs to be a schedule of all meetings posted online with agendas and material prior
to the meeting.
Again, I urge you to vote for this new board policy, A75.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Well, here from the next caller.
Good afternoon, Board.
Supervisors.
My name is Russell James, and I'm speaking in support of item 13.
This measure has value, and I'm asking you all your support for this measure as well.
Previous opposition from some board members remind Pityan adequately address and options
offer to mitigate these issues.
Unfortunately, they either measure is still not being supported.
Public deserves transparency and I urge you to vote yes on this.
The members that refuse to the spark this measure, please remember that the public comment is overwhelmingly supporting it.
We are watching.
We will remember.
Your actions come.
We will remember your actions come in re-election time.
Your actions are lack thereof.
You have consequences.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Good
afternoon, Board of Supervisors, my name is Terry and Scale. I came today to support item 13 because those of us living in the unincorporated field very much cut off from the flow of information behind the decision making that is happening at Board of Supervisors.
And the background of her making associated to those decisions that may have come from an ad hoc committee meeting.
As you know, I do 13 recommends that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of the public must have access to a agenda for ad hoc committee.
Where names are not necessary, just general topics that are on the agenda and at a minimum
an opportunity to know the results of the agenda items, again, no names are necessary.
It would also be useful to know what the supporting materials were associated with when making decisions
on the agenda that are not confidential.
This would be a safe and we in a way to begin so that this Board of Supervisors wouldn't seem so resisted.
Thank you.
You're from the next caller.
Thank you, Walker.
I strongly favor this.
There are lots and remorse that's earlier.
That charter reform has been a court participatory process.
That is a griege of free invalid.
Outside of special interest groups, the public has little opportunity for input or scrutiny
of that proposal and was cut off from board meeting comment.
Transparency builds trust.
That's compelling reason.
If you really believe in quote,
participatory processes,
or ad hoc committees to operate with clear rules
and meaningful public access,
that means access to know who's at the table
and how decisions are shaped before reaching board meetings.
Your yes vote on this issue
will be a true measure of your commitment to the participatory process.
and transparency, or whether that's just convenient rhetoric, appropriate exclusions for vulnerable issues that have been addressed.
Thank you for the next caller.
Good afternoon. My name is Becky Rapp, and I urge you to support Board Policy A75,
because transparency should apply to all board-created subcommittees,
especially when they're discussing major policy issues before they come to the full board.
A good example is the county's socially equitable cannabis program.
This program has been under development for years and could have significant impact
on public health.
Public safety, safety, neighborhood, youth exposure, and county finances. Yet many residents have found
a difficult to track where recommendations were developed and what discussions occurred before
they reached the board. The public deserve time-loved notice of meetings, access to agenda
as recordings, meeting materials, consultant information, and clear documentation of recommendations.
Transparency should begin when policies are being developed, not just when final decisions are scheduled
for a board vote. The policy will help ensure that residents can follow important discussions,
understand how recommendations are formed and participate in this.
Thank you. We'll hear from the next call.
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. I appreciate this opportunity to share my support for item 13,
regarding supervisor Anderson's proposal regarding ad hoc committees.
I find it confusing that maybe my board of supervisor wouldn't have the information he needed
because he doesn't get any of it from an ad hoc committee.
Imagine how that extends out to those of us who live out here in the Incorcorrated area.
We don't have an access to understand.
It has been said that transparency is the bedrock of trust, accountability, and authentic relationships.
It eliminates hidden agendas, foster psychological safety, and allows genuine connection to
flurry, proving that honesty is the ultimate catalyst for both personal and organizational
integrity.
I would add to that the these opportunities to understand what's happening in our county and
the agendas and decisions and supporting material.
Thank you for hearing from the next caller.
A. It's true, Brown, four of hearing this kind of a lot of transparency that Tara Manning
Monica continued to resist like cockroaches in the light. The corrupt progressives don't
want to know about the backroom deals with the harm-reach. That's when coalitions, the
backroom deals with Paul Warley, the backroom deals with J.C. Cooper, the backroom deals with
a center on policy initiatives, the backroom deals many made with their dead meat, and they don't
want the public to know or have any, say, and how many, so many, multi-million art solstice
contracts came to be. Or how backcountry residents have been forced to bail out the city
Sunday with time and time again. The floods aren't homelessness. Everything is what they want
us in the dark on using children as their shield. There is political theater, many's
meeting with monogues, monogues, TDS, and their secret ad hoc solve, nothing. Again, I'm
well as Joel, Terran, Jim, who got $200 from AC&T using our public special events trust
funds to funnel money to their private campaigns, does everything anyone ever needs to know
about this credit board and the war transparency? They do not relate, nor equate. And monogues
you're sitting records to don't worry. We the people bring the real life.
What's here from the next caller?
Victor here.
I'm definitely for this. This is definitely the crux of democracy right here.
You have to do it.
And also I've heard rumors that the subcommittee's have met already on the
slut walk.
The sluts we're going to have without telling anybody.
They weren't going to include the sluts over the city council meetings on their
with a national avenue to celebrate the parade over there and collect some food
steps for the constituency.
This is like, this is, get the money out of Gavin Newsom's wife.
She stole all the fire money and then also Michelle Obama is a man.
That would be a nice
one here from the next column.
Yes, on this with a protection of minors and delicate material.
Two things here, where Tara, that means you won't vote so this item agenda will not pass.
And here's an interesting thing, why is Hannah, who purports to be, oh, we're new Americans, opposed transparency and accountability.
Maybe they need to be investigated.
Thank you.
You're all here for the next call.
Well, my name is Madison, and I urge you to support this policy to require transparency and accountability for all Board of Supervisors Ad hoc subsidies.
As a resident and mother of three young children, I often follow county decisions, but effect
public health, safety, housing, behavioral health, and youth substance use prevention.
Many of these issues are first discussed in subcommittees before they ever come to the full board.
When those discussions happen outside of public view, it becomes difficult for residents to understand how decisions are being shaped,
or if you provide meaningful input before recommendations are finalized.
County residents should not have to search for information or learn about important policy
discussions after decisions have already been made.
Whether the topic is behavioral health, fiscal matters, AI, environmental issues, or
any other county concerns, the public deserves an opportunity to stay informed and engage
throughout the process.
Greater transparency leads to better decisions, so please support this item.
Thank you.
Blair Beakman, hi this is Blair Beakman, thanks a lot for this item, I am a big believer
in check accountability, it first came on in 2014 to address the concepts of continual
war from 9-11. I think we've kind of developed ourselves into patterns to working more
in secrecy because of 9-11 and check accountability really brought on ways we can open
ourselves up and talk more openly and and work towards open democracy and community again.
I'm a little gung-ho in this stuff so to me it's great to hear this item. I really learned
important lessons today that it requires sensitivity.
Thank you.
Give me a moment to reconnect here
and then we'll hear from the final five colors.
Thank you. We'll hear from the next color.
Good afternoon. My name is Diane Grace, has the board letter indicates, quote,
board meetings and advisory bodies operate under procedures intended to provide equitable
access for county residents and of quote. Establishing consistent requirements for board
ad hoc committees would accomplish these same goals. Otherwise, those supervisors not attending
or allowed to attend or are invited to attend ad hoc meetings, do not know what's happening
and that is scary. This is the worst kind of secrecy. The next step would be to open up these
meetings to citizens who are harmed by and assisted by the happenings and discussion and
information flow in this meeting. This would be the height of respect for us residents and those
of us in the back country communities could use a little respect and consideration. Thank you.
Thank you. We'll hear from the next call.
Good afternoon. My name is David Geiger,
resident of Parks and Canyon in District 2 and I support IDN-13. As a veterinarian, I don't have
slide into government, but I serve in my community planning group to learn and purchase state.
Supervisor Anderson for his efforts to increase public access and voicemail sports work,
respects his record of advocating for our communities in a non-partisan way,
and I support his efforts here to apply a default standard of transparency and disclosure among
subcommittees. Anderson, the Concerned Regarding Public Disclosure and the Context of the
Doodinal Justice Committee, who's worked at has an empty support. I also see no conflict between
this proposal and the needs for special protections and confidentiality, which should be the
an option, not that it will. It's proposal allows for those exceptions.
Public trust and government as that all-time low.
Government earns public trust by operating the open whenever possible.
It's four of its servants itself and the public by
leaning into every opportunity to transparency.
The noblest motive is a public good.
Thank you all.
Thank you. Well, here from the next caller.
Maybe I just assumed you kicked me out yesterday, Monica.
Because you said you did.
Now, transparency, we all know that three of them are not going to go ahead and go for transparency
because I already got a promise from Tara Lough from Lima that she was going to go and
look into my claims of organized fraud through the same organization that she wants to
create these ad hoc committee.
It much reminds me of the election fraud that took place back in 1982 where over 100,000
ballots were stolen basically by these committees using the registration process.
I definitely understand that the NGOs are helping out the homeless people withdrawing
on and going to the NGOs for the homeless people.
So I am assuming because of 2015 we allowed non-citizens to get driver's license.
They are feeling their vote.
They are voting for them.
They are going to keep these corrupt politicians in place.
I'm glad that.
Well, here from the next caller.
I'm Deborah Gonzalez.
I'm from the backcountry in Bolivar and I am completely in support of the Reviser Anderson
for 13.
Honestly, this would help our backcountry have to be in more communication.
We lose out on a lot of information and it hurts us significantly.
I think trust building is extremely important right now.
We have a judge going on where we don't particularly trust our local,
because it's really speaking our behalf.
And as stepping forward, I think passing this which help us all gain a lot more trust.
So I am completely in support of this.
I represent the background for community alliance for responsible development.
And thank you.
And whoever those crazy people were, they were cursing me saying all those things.
This is my first time on here.
And as of one.
Thank you.
Well, now I'm here from the final color.
Hi, Natalie Rush.
here. I know that this failed one full ready at a Thai vote two weeks ago. It asked
ad hoc, sub-timini's, post-identism, public records, the same transparency, regular board
meetings, already followed. But I want to say something that the word professional is used
to decide who's allowed to be heard. And once I tried to be speaking on Miss Evelyn Lopez's behalf,
And was denied by the same professionals stating that I wasn't professional in most part of the depression.
It seems that transparency and the word professional is language that's used to also filter out people that are trusted by said people.
So, when we use this language, I don't know, transparency and professional, I don't know if this is going to change anything.
Thank you.
And Chair Lawson, Riemann, I think it was public comment on this item.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Vice Chair.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, supervisor Anderson.
I know that we've been discussing this for some months now.
You know from my earlier comments at board meetings on May the 19th and also on June 9th
that I cannot support your proposed policy as it is currently drafted.
I know that you have an amendment and I'll get to that in a minute.
But I just want to go through a couple of things I think that you have said here today and
that have come out on some of your communications.
At the juvenile justice at Hawke's subcommittee meetings, it is very important that supervisor
our area and I are able to provide a safe environment for parents to tell us what is happening
to their children who are detained and in a vulnerable situation. It is also very important
that those who lived experience feel safe to come forward at these meetings and tell us how we
could improve our county systems and processes. And I will also say I have spoken to people time
after time who refuse to come to the county because they feel bullied when they come in here.
Your proposed one-size-fits-all policy will not allow me to provide that kind of safe environment and will not allow me to do the work that I've been elected to do.
Your proposed policy will result in uninsistness.
And I hope that you can understand that. You spoke today, and it came out in one of your alerts that these populations that we are talking about are already protected through government code section 549-533, as it bars local agencies from disclosing identifying information about minors at public meetings and other state and federal laws, further protect confidentiality records.
The actual text of that government code has not been shared to let me share it now.
A member of the public shall not be required as a condition to attendance at a meeting of a legislative body or local agency
to register his or her name to provide other information to complete a questionnaire or otherwise to fulfill any condition precedent to his or her attendance.
If an attendance list register questionnaire or other similar document is posted at or near the
entrance of the room where the meeting is to be held or it's circulated to the person's
present during the meeting, it shall state clearly that the signing, registering, or completion
of the document is voluntary and that all persons may attend the meeting regardless of whether
person signs, registers, or completes the document. Got that. Okay. But as you can see, the
plain text of the California government section that you reference states that a member of
the public shall not be required to register their name as a condition to attend the meeting
of a legislative body of a local agency. But your policy requiring all meetings to be streamed
live, recorded, and posted online, and public comments submitted to the subcommittee during
meeting shall be recorded, maintained, and made available to the public online will still identify
parents and other people who speak up at the meeting.
If you are I showed up at the meeting and we didn't sign in, there would be enough people
that would know who we are.
So in effect, it's not solving for the problem that we have discussed here in these meetings,
these three meetings or so.
This is precisely why, on May 19th, I did vote for option four,
which would give the board flexibility to tailor, transparency requirements,
and in case by case basis, each time an ad hoc subcommittee is created.
At that time, you said, it does nothing, I do disagree with that,
but I understand why this is important, why you are bringing this forward,
so I still, the language that you did present,
I think that that still presents problems, right, for our parents who want to come and speak,
because technically they're not protected by the government code or the Brown Act.
It's simply a way for them to feel safe.
But if you were to go back to your amendments into the policy A75 to the section B that it is the policy of the Board
supervisors that its ad hoc subcommittees will comply with the following requirements in order to promote additional transparency and public participation.
Or alternatively require that the ad hoc subcommittee comply with the Brown Act.
I would like to add the following requirements will not apply to ad hoc subcommittees that are established to address sensitive subjects, including those related to juveniles.
So that is my proposal before you said I know there's a motion in a second, but
Would ask it be friendly before I have to do substitute motion
Hampshire, I do want to jump in. Well, you had your name up next. So you already did
All right
I appreciate that
You do bring up option for so for the record option for was take no action and do not establish a policy at
this time. Determined transparency requirements on case-by-case basis, each time in A&H
committee, subcommittee is created. So I get it, but that's do nothing. That was the current.
It was no change.
So in as far as the parents, I get the parents. But the point I brought
before was you've had experts come in and there's no place to see what experts say. So while
We want to protect kids and perhaps we want to protect parents.
Why would we protect any of the organizations that I have stated?
Now, I am going to know if they've come spoke other than probation, because you've said
in the last mean probation spoke.
What is it that probation saying that the public can't have access to and why are they
shy to say something public when it comes to policy?
See, the issue I have, as well, we have one group, that's an excuse for everyone.
It shouldn't be an excuse.
Look, I know that we both agree that the only people that like to govern in secrecy
are dictators in royalty, but I believe that there has to be a policy that you and I can
agree on, and I want you to help in it that is a cart-blank that once I say, this is
juvenile, nobody has to accommodate anything. That's crazy. Having minutes coming back
and saying, this is the subject matter, and then if there's any expertise given or county staff
Stuff that should be public people should have access to it
So I'm trying to figure out how do we get there because I'm my job when we had youth in parents come to testify before the legislature
They didn't identify themselves and they weren't on camera and in a couple of instances
They actually disguise the voice because they're high profile. So I get that and I'm willing to do all those things
But the notion that that's cart block for everything to be in secret, that makes no sense to me.
I'm okay.
Can I just want to say I appreciate that everyone seems very committed to transparency.
I think that's really valuable and I know.
I have been gone for four weeks and I missed that a lot of the debate that you're talking about.
vice chair, I think part of my concern is that sometimes a one-size-fits-all solution means
that is both over-inclusive and under-inclusive and doesn't necessarily adequately address
the core of any particular challenge.
I'd love to hear from Supervisor Geary, but I am deeply concerned about the issues of vice
chair raises.
I wonder if there would be a path just putting it out there to ask our vice chair and
to the Brazilian.
I understand, to form a subcommittee on a transparency subcommittee, and you too can
come up with a recommendation.
I don't think that.
Just for, again, I think that this this language is helpful.
It includes everything you brought forward these last two times and adds this sentence to it.
And so I am trying to get there with you in your words as well.
I'm trying to get there.
I think that this is this is sufficient and how does that work?
I would hope that you would change your motion to include it.
If not, I will do a substitute motion because it's what you've brought forward the last three times.
But it includes this additional language around the sensitive subjects, including those related to juveniles.
What you've brought forward previously does not cover the population that I want to try to cover and any other thing that that may come up.
I have a plum was up, but if I could just.
Go ahead.
Speak to it.
So the issue I have is your the language you proposed has I'm reading it or seeing it hearing it.
It allows cover not to have to say the entire committee act can be silent.
No word is it provide that when chief of probation comes and speaks or any other
extracurricular speaks that their testimony has to be available.
It just says, hey, which is carte blanche.
So can we narrow it so that it is, now, I want to point out two quick things.
I think there are three or four board items today.
They were asking for exceptions to the rules.
When you propose the committee in the beginning,
you can always make the case.
This is special and we want a special rule for the subcommittee at that time.
Because I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do.
Every committee you bring forward, moving forward,
I'm going to insist on the transparency you're denying me today.
So, instead of fighting each and every time, most committees should be 100% transparent, no matter what.
This is an exception to the rule, not the rule.
But still, even after the last board meeting, there's no, do we have minutes?
Do we have any kind of for the juvenile justice? Where is all that stuff? Where is it located?
That's what I wanted to get to.
Thank you very much, and I failed to mention this last time, but just for the record, every single meeting that Juvenile Justice at Hock Committee has had has produced minutes that have been distributed to all of your offices.
So there is transparency in that regard. Now, I think that I'm also open and wanting to get to, yes.
I've heard you mention at least five times, Chief Nelson, and in a make sense, right?
If she, in this case, she's a county employee.
I mean, there's nothing out of the ordinary that she presented.
It was very factual.
Perhaps we can arrive to yes and make an exception for or include a written statement for the record
if there were a county staff participating in the subcommittee.
Something like that, if that's helpful, I think that that could be a possibility.
Well, I really appreciate it, and I appreciate the spirit.
What you're doing it, the what my thought is is if it has to do with a parent or a child's testimony,
absolutely.
Everyone else?
And for the record, all the discussions that we've had in these sessions have been recorded and there's been minutes produced that have been distributed.
Are there any websites that are in place with the public to go?
I don't think so.
That's my point.
Well, because it's not the same as your mic subcommittee.
It's not the same as the other committee that I mean it's a very unique case.
this particular sensitive topics of matters that we're discussing in this particular one is going to be different.
We're not just going to, you know, put up video of testimony of children under the age of 18 or 18.
Can we, can we, can we pause?
I just, I want, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to keep order.
I appreciate the free flowing conversation to try to reach some kind of agreement.
But the vice chair has her hand up.
So I would, it sounds like that you're not amenable to this.
No, I didn't turn it for him, because it gives you carte block.
I need, I want to hear what the experts have to say.
I want, I think the public deserves to know what the experts are saying.
We do, we do that.
We do that.
And there's been so much misinformation.
I'm not going to go through everything.
really, I'm not because of, you know, the people that have spoken. Some of the people
that speak, doesn't matter what we do up here. They have preconceived notions about who
we are. We've been called slets. We've been referred to as Queen's in a way that is really
derogatory. Reminds me of back in the 90s when they were trying to say, well fair, Queen,
and all that. So, you know, that is what it is. I don't really care. It is what it is. I
I think that because this is the policy and the language you brought forward, and it adds one sentence, I would like to do a substitute motion.
Okay, we have a substitute motion on the second.
Okay, so I just to kind of clarify where we're at procedurally.
We have a motion on the floor by Supervisor Desmond.
I mean, Supervisor Anderson's again by Supervisor Desmond.
But then there's a substitute motion by Supervisor Montgomery Step.
So we have to vote first on the substitute motion, if that passes, then this item passes in the form proposed by the vice chair of that substitute motion fails.
We go on to consider, to understand the initial motion.
So, again, we'll first take a vote on and to approve to just be clear a vote to approve
the item continued from January 9th, adopted policy to require transparency and accountability
for all sport of supervisors and ad hoc subcommittees as amended with the language currently on the screen
from Vice Chairman Montgomery's step.
Any questions?
Okay.
Please vote?
I don't know. I have my, uh, Jim Hien says, uh, I think.
Oh, uh, post-polleges. I said any questions.
I didn't see that. Sorry. Go ahead.
Super, sir, Desmond.
Okay. Yeah. Um, so I guess I'm a little bit hung up on, I, I, I, I, I think the step,
that sub-tube motion is a step of the right direction.
It's, maybe not, for filling is, is, uh, as, as,
supervisor and some ones, but I'm looking at, I guess I'm a little squishy on sensitive subjects.
So, without a definition, I don't know, is finance, committee is sensitive subjects,
are they a personal subject or I just want to.
I'm going to turn the floor to, those are questions I think for the maker of the motion, so I'll turn that to the vice chair.
I'll just generally for finance, no.
I think that brings, it just gives us the latitude that we need, because again, like I said, in the last meeting, I really did not understand the gravity of a fear of retaliation that some of these parents had. I did not understand it. If I had made rules for an ad hoc, so committee prior to that, I would not have considered that, because I didn't understand it.
So all I'm trying to do is leave us a room to move appropriately
without holding up a process so we can make decisions in a timely manner.
That's it.
I'd be, I'm still asking questions.
Would you be a member to address personal, sensitive subjects
that would narrow it a little bit?
I don't.
I wouldn't, that is even more subjective, I think.
And so I wouldn't want to include that.
Yeah, that's narrowing it to me, but okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
I see what I was interested in.
I'm going to support this because it's a step in the right direction,
but I think it's way too broad.
And I hope that at every meeting you give us an update on the subcommittee because not hearing what experts say, I get a carve out for parents and a carve out for juveniles, but you can't have NGOs experts and I don't even know who's gone before the committee.
And I should know, the public should know, and this doesn't provide for that.
However, this is a baby step in the right direction, and I'm always for the right direction.
Okay.
But that's not a second.
Don't worry.
You already have a second from Chair Perthema, Gary.
So thank you, Supervisor Anderson.
Does anyone know how many comments before we vote on the Vice Chair's substitute motion?
Okay, please vote.
Chair, Lawson, remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present
at 10 voting aye.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
So now we are moving on, we're actually going to jump to item 15 and then go back to item
14.
So item 15, this is an item that I brought forward, which is designated in the waterfront park as
the permanent home for the San Diego Regional Firefighter Memorial and Waveboard Policy A72.
If we have any public comment, we will start with that.
Go ahead, Andrew.
All right.
Thank you, Chair Lawson Ramer.
We have nine requests to speak on this item.
Two in person and seven requesting to speak by phone.
Also note that we received two e-comments.
One in support and one in neutral.
For any individuals that requested to speak on item 15, my phone.
Please dial in at the conference line using the instructions that we're provided to you.
We'll begin with the in person speakers.
like to bite four to ledge of the Audra and Marco Espinoza.
You'll have two minutes to address the board.
No, we're doing it.
We're coming back.
It's last.
Um, how rude.
This is, you're cutting into my time.
You know what I mean?
You guys don't like it.
You're right.
I mean, just to be clear, your time can start till you start at speaking.
I know, Tara.
Thank you.
Um, just giving you guys shit because that's the whole point.
Um, and Jim and Joel, why do you guys keep giving your balls to the
these Jezebelts, I don't understand.
It's like nobody has a backbone to just stand up and say,
no, you just cave.
And it's interesting that we have two minutes
to talk about this.
I'm sure I'll have two minutes to talk about the next item.
And then when we're talking about $9.1 billion,
it's like, we're gonna limit that for sure,
so that you have to talk about six different things
and you get 10 seconds each.
So nice.
So transparent, so countable, and it's like,
mean, you guys virtue signal with these type of items, as though, you know, you just do
all these great things.
But you guys talking about hiding what's going on, what children is extremely egregious.
Because you sit here and you're using them, you're going to fill me, go ahead, and you can
put on your social media.
I don't really care because I'm doing the same to you.
So what it is about transparency and accountability, but you're using children, and that's
so nefarious, because it should be transparent what happens, the things that you guys do.
And when it is, you silence it, and that is what is so disgusting, you will have parents
come in here, and ask you for help.
And you'll tell them that you will, Monica, right?
And then you just say, listen to the agency where the agency then says your children are
adoptable.
Of course, you don't want people to know that.
Because it is detrimental to children that things that you guys engage in, it's a fucking
shame.
And then you sit up here and you're like, don't hurt my feelings with calling us a slot.
God forbid, you guys are up there.
That's why you got in that position if you don't have the backbone to deal with it, then
there's the fucking door.
I don't call for Mark Ospinosa.
One out here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone, we'll start with our
first caller.
All
the bulls,
I think, laughing said over the plastic chains.
Anyway, it seems to me that since our brave firefighters spend a lot of time putting
out the big fires in East County, the memorial should be at the more Easterly site.
So, you know, some people who actually suffered damage and there's a bit of a, maybe even there should be two memorials.
Maybe one that waterfront park and one that is candy or arch is over the freeway, maybe instead of a tiny green sign naming it for a fallen firefighter,
that no one sees one path,
thinking about 60 miles an hour,
and that they're invented more easily
sight is that it would live
leave more space for kids play.
Pick nicks are gathering at the waterfront park
itself, which is what it's there for.
Oh, I'd probably send a mention to kids
there are kind of pictures from what I hear about
What the board does, you know, turn your family's adopting them on the Asian Bay and all that crap, and I mean, you don't treat them right anyway, so
yeah, I think waterfront part by itself is not the best place. I'm a memorial. Thanks.
Can you take out speaker lover?
I'm going to follow here.
So yeah, I too am all for a memorial going up for firefighters, but just based on I'm
which is going to cost and I mean wouldn't it be awesome if it was like in lieu of just
a memorial just honoring their families who are left behind and giving them the money that
it's going to take to install this. I mean, I don't even know where the money's coming from,
but what am I saying? It comes from us. Also, yeah, I believe that, you know, these meetings
are becoming just, it's just more and more apparent that your jobs up there are about keeping
the people divided and you are doing so awesome on it and I just, you know, I not that I like
to stay tuned but I have to be paying attention that way others know the truth of what's really
going on and you guys just get so upset about your character being a slander. I mean, you create,
I mean, honestly, you don't like to be called Queens, Monica, then don't behave like one.
It's
And that's what's so, that is what's so rules for me, not for me.
And hold on to that freedom with speech, Audra.
Because you are your amazing girl.
Love you so much.
Thank you.
Here from the next caller.
It's true.
Ready to take a break with two minutes.
You know, it's almost like a break.
I have to speak for 60 seconds over and over and over again.
But you guys would know about that, right?
You just pull.
I just want to refuel.
I can't put them when it comes to the budget 60 seconds.
Something actually important.
And I think it's a bigger picture, this item, it's a much bigger picture than just a memorial.
Because when you have that word sensitive subject, I'm sensitive about this subject.
Let's sense it, though, that want to be Queen Monica, is about being stuck in the 90s.
2026, we demand transparency, and these agenda items.
It is weird that this item was shoved into consent.
It's also corrupt, but I know why this was pulled.
It's not the brain trance therapy.
You know, never trance therapy.
We know it's because many hate America, hate law enforcement,
hate first responders, and hate anyone
that brings good to the world to like firefighters do.
She's going to come up with any and every excuse
on the book not to support this memorial,
because as much as she pretends to be someone who's struggle,
nope, she's not too home.
That being said, it is a little weird
to use water as a symbol of firefighters,
It's actually down town where firefighters are not primarily fighting fires, like they are in the backcountry,
no thanks to the professional orphanage, like the one that we just caught in Spring Valley,
and like you guys do nothing about, and I'm not against the memorial for firefighters.
But I am against the lack of transparency community to consent, because again, where was the transparency on who's designing this?
How much money does it cost? What is the design? I didn't get to say, and I don't remember hearing anything about this until it was put into consent.
Plus, no heroes work anywhere near this building, so it should be in the backcountry.
For example, everybody saw Mani taking pictures outside with her communist allies earlier
adding up to my future viral posts and I'm thinking of which moniker, you still make
speakers?
Or was that Sarah?
You people need mental help, I don't just say that, you prove it every single meeting.
Thank you.
You're here from the next college.
Yeah,
first, this does appear at such a genuine good idea,
but I don't think it's that simple.
But I'll keep it that simple.
There should be the memorial here,
and it should complement the law enforcement memorial
that's out front.
Not really in the back country.
I mean, there's monuments all over the country
that we don't all see because it don't live near them.
And the reason we should have a memorial
is the women on this board have pushed
The leftist Marxist agenda of darkness and death, resulting in societal chaos, subhuman behavior,
and poorly-managed environmental condition conditions, pushing first responders to now face
more danger and horrific danger against themselves than ever before.
First responders of fire, law enforcement must always be respected, recognize and odd for
their self-sacrifice, and the sacrifice of their family.
So I'm okay with this if it maintains the simplicity of how it presents in writing and it doesn't
cost an arm and a leg or add to the budget and it should complement the law enforcement.
Memorial. But you guys, man, you know, put our first responders into a horrific
danger with your policies, your ideology, and you're, oh, what used to be evil is now good in
I want to
go ahead and apologize to all of you because I've been about this the wrong way.
I should have just flat out after you, from the get go, how you go ahead and weed out
non-citizens from the voterals.
I should have reminded you right away that in 2015 we changed the rules and our previous text no longer worked.
So basically since 2015 and till today we have not weeded out one non-fit of the next set for self-reporting
That's on record. You guys have it. You guys know that I've been waiting for you to go ahead and give me a non-refund
So that you could go ahead and do the check
You're obligated under the NBRA subsection 8. I highly recommend using the
say backs and go ahead and put up the name. Do it now before they use certified election
or after, and then we could go ahead and play a guessing game. Enough, non-citizens voting
in our last election that changed every single revolt, and I bet you the answer of yes.
I bet you they came from all the brand.
You look down to find out where that frog came, they're coming from those locations. If you're
duty to go in a look, it's not my duty to find it for you. You're not supposed to go ahead
and try to stop me from asking questions and you're supposed to answer this. Throwing me
in jail and trying to go ahead and get me arrested because I'm a dick after six years? Yeah,
no, that's on you. You should have answered the first time I'd asked, or the second, first year,
second year, third year, fourth year, fifth year, six years. How many years are you not going
to answer my question? Are you going to go ahead and try to throw me in jail first? Is that
your mind of go? So, Damian, I understand that you've defeated Trump and then be our favorite.
You were here from the final color.
Where, Beekman? Hi. Thank you for your work on the previous
It's a learning process for me too, and I'm really interested how this item will progress.
Thank you, previous item will progress for this item.
I wanted to quickly offer a, it sounds like a very noble project what you're doing.
What sort of technology accountability would be a part of the future of this park?
I just thought I would ask that, in the City of San Diego, I feel we're having difficulties
in being more clear about what exactly we were placing in the future of our parks.
And I feel it has to be a conversation that's to be open and regular.
To quickly note, the City of Oakland and its County of Alameda have figured out ways
to leave Block and look for a new ALPR vendor by inviting a full community process in the
what can be a future AR vendor, that's community in action, that's looking good democracy towards
the future technology. We have to really be based on that community practices for our future
technology to do the good technology practices with this park. It'd be in good form. It'd be
offering our best practices and our decent seat. Good luck and how to do that. Thank you.
Thank you.
and chair-loss the room of that concludes public comment on the sign-up.
Okay, thank you very much.
I just very happy to bring this forward.
You know, it is an issue that has come before us a couple times in terms of conversations.
I think it's a long time in coming and having an opportunity to honor our first responders and our particular
or the our firefighters for their service and and really for their sacrifice.
So I think it's very hard to fully acknowledge what so many of them have given for all of us.
And I did want to do this as quickly as possible because there was an interest in having
this under way and time for the 9-11 memorial that will be happening in September.
So again, I would like to make a motion to adopt this item and hope to have the support
of my colleagues.
I'm super as a jury.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
To your point, this has been long time coming and we don't have a regional memorial location for our firefighters who sacrifice in so many different ways in our first responder, so I think that we need to honor them and I think that you bringing this forward in an energy and manner is something I'm very grateful for.
I just want to offer, I guess it could be a friendly amendment, I want us to be intentional about what we're doing here and just what I've heard from them is that they would like to locate it in site 6, which is the mayor image of where the deputies memorial is on the west side of the waterfront park.
So, I would suggest that we just go ahead and choose that location, instead of leaving it up to our CAO, and then I think you have my bridge.
And then we also direct the CAO to come back within 90 days.
If it's amenable to folks to add the capacity of the space for Harbor Drive so that we also don't lose space within the location that I'm proposing.
I'll give everyone a second to read this.
First part.
I get the second part.
I know.
Well, there's a whole lot of things.
Hold on.
Joel, you'll look at here.
Because your mic's on.
So the question was, well, what would that look like?
Turn your mic off.
So the recommendation three would address any concerns related to obviously this is going
to be a permanent fixture.
And our waterfront park hosts a lot of different events.
So, to a certain degree, we'll be losing some score footage that would be made available to potential events.
So, I just want to add options so that we can offset that score footage that we would be losing with a memorial
and incorporate the option of including portions of Harper drive,
and directing staff to work with the relevant jurisdictions and agencies to see if that could be feasible,
and that way we don't we it's a win win. Okay I have a thank you for this I have a
question. If I meet. Please go ahead. Thank you. I'm old enough on this board now
to remember when we had a board chair who wanted to shut down Harbor alive entirely
and take our part straight to the bay. And he also pledged $10,000 for this very
event which I matched them coming from my grant and I challenge all of you to match
my 10 grand going towards this memorial from our community grant, for our community.
We are so fortunate you have such an incredible firefighters.
I think firefighters across the world are incredible, but here in San Diego they are especially
awesome.
I think they are great more.
So that's all I have to say.
And I did hear a comment earlier that there are concerns about us, the county funding
this and I just want to be clear that that wouldn't be the case. It would be the firefighters
have an ad hoc and never mind. They have a task force.
It's a very powerful ad hoc.
But they have a task force that is ready to start fundraising is my understanding, so that
will be paid by them. But yeah, I mean, I absolutely, I would love to support their fundraising
efforts through. It would be super awesome. The first 50 grand came from all of us, from
our community, community grants. I'm not going to put you on the spot, but we're going to
get the wing here. Thank you. I just have to have a quick question on this to better
understand, I'd love to be able to take this amendment, but I want to better understand
implications. So this is for site 6. So I think my question is just the county staff.
I just tells about site 6. Is there any concerns or potential challenges or anything
that needs to be assessed? You know, any kind of any, yeah. Tell us about site 6, I guess.
Thank you, Chair.
To the Chairprotems comment regarding the multiple events.
This particular location, I don't know what I'm looking at, is in one of locations where some of those larger events that do fund park revenues and fund the operations and the maintenance of the park.
Our held, we have large stages and things like that that you have limited space to be accommodated.
The water from park brings in about $2 million a year, all of that goes to park operations
and maintenance.
About half of that comes from some of our large music festivals that do use that space.
I think with some of the other opportunities here, we could certainly look at expanding that area
and not losing that space.
It would be helpful for us to be able to look into that a little bit further to see how we
could achieve both of the objectives here of retaining revenue and achieving the board's
with the firefighter memorial.
Okay, I mean, I'm going to ask my assistance from Damon
because to be, I feel like I'm not 100% point on my amendments today,
but I would love to basically support what a Super Zeguru is put out here,
but giving county direction to kind of come up with a solution
that moves forward with the recommended site,
but doesn't constrain them to only look at the solution that Super Zeguru proposed,
which is a good idea, right?
Which is a value in feasible, that's great, yes, and.
And other options, is it also, is there something
about the size of the memorial that might be,
if it's the littler or in a different angle
that might, you know, I don't know,
I don't want to like tie your hands
that that's your only option,
but would love you guys to come up with some solutions
that achieve both objectives.
And I love what Super Ziggier put out.
I think this three is great, and what else?
What else could we brainstorm
that would allow us to continue having these amazing events to water from park and honoring
our, you know, frankly, our heroes who like deserve every, you know, everything that we
can give them to honor the sacrifices that they made. So I don't know exactly.
And we're considering their preference, right? Yeah, that's been saying, like, let me give you
the little preference around, like, I think it's very clear. They have a preference for
kind of the mirror image location to the law enforcement memorial, so, you know, prioritizing
that preference and saying, okay, that's the preference we want to be respectful, but
how can we be respectful in a way that also allows us to continue to utilize in the spaces.
I think Super Zagiri has been very creative here with this idea of looking for the expansions
of like, can we close down Harbor Drive?
I think it would just be, yeah, it would be a simple add-on to direct CAO to coordinate with appropriate jurisdictions to violate the feasibility of utilizing portions of harbour drive, including bubble blah, and other options at the end of that sentence.
And then, and other feasible options.
And also exploring all other feasible options to continue having super awesome events as per the words used by, to understand super.
And other people often continue having large-scale community
foot-centered events in order for a park.
I don't know if this upcomposes what we need, kind of counsel,
but I just want them to make a plan to do both
and not either or.
Charles, remember that the amendments
appeared to be clear enough to provide that direction?
OK.
I'm happy to do that.
I'm happy to accept that.
As long as they have a direction to look at all possibilities to do all things and not just one option.
Yeah. Okay. Happy to get it up here for a minute. Yeah.
Then I'll say.
Okay.
Is your resume?
Well, I wish I had a map. I wish I knew what the spikes you were talking about.
I have no, I don't.
Oh, look, I can't do anything.
I can't do anything.
Andrew is always Andrew and handsome.
Well, that would have been nice.
Before this discussion.
Or be in our packets or something.
I didn't, didn't have anything here.
Well, look, we can all look.
So we're sites.
Go back to the map.
So we're sites six.
Right there.
And the other one, the law enforcement memorial,
okay, is over there.
Okay, but right now, I guess with the amendments,
We open it up to whatever the best that they come back with, is that right?
Instead of specifying six.
Well, we are saying prioritizing six, because that's where they want it, but we're also saying,
hey, go try to make it happen at six and come back with all your options to do that without
sacrificing events.
And of course, if they come back and they say, like, we have no feasible options, we might have
to have another conversation.
Is that, is that, is that, again, County Council is the way that the amendments drafted clear enough that that's what we want to, we would like to be, to do both and not either or.
That's clear.
Does that make, is that makes sense to you, Supervisor doesn't know?
Yeah.
Okay.
Please, I'd love to hear from our experts.
Thank you, Chair.
I just wanted to clarify the location and make sure that staff is understanding it correctly
on this map, the site's sixth is a little bit further from where I understood it to
be.
I understood it to be a direct mirror of the law enforcement memorial, which would be closer
to, I believe it was four and five on that map.
Can I put your backpack up, Andrew?
Along that walkway between four and five, which would be again a direct mirror of the law enforcement
memorial.
We do have some conceptual, we have the opportunity to create some conceptual maps that that would be helpful.
We could operate with the direction to have it directly mirror the law enforcement memorial,
and I think we can work with the firefighters to identify precisely where that location is.
And I think that's that works because I think the...
The clarifier, we have a different map that showed that number four in the current map displayed is number six in the one we, we're given. So, anyway, we can work with.
So, can we strike the, we'll cover, we strike the pieces of six and just as the mirror image of the law enforcement.
It's two maps.
That's fine.
OK.
Let's pull that back up.
It is.
Yeah.
Just get rid of that.
Yeah.
We hold on.
It was.
We missed something.
So it was direct achievement.
To thank you.
Prioritizing.
Not add up.
Prioritizing.
Yeah.
And then after Waterfront Park.
comma
and explore.
Great.
Okay. We have a motion in the floor. I know amendment in a second.
Any additional comments?
Okay, please.
Oh. Turn it last and remember that motion passes,
you know, and I'm going to say, if I'll supervise just being present and voting aye.
Okay. Thank you very much. So now we'll go on to item 14.
This is the Dr. Resolution, the men, the Board of Supervisors July 20, 26 meeting calendar,
and it's not the A72 waiver. This item has been brought forward because we're not expecting any items from staff in this meeting.
Any comments from my colleagues at this time?
Any comments from the public?
Thank you.
We have nine requests to speak on this item.
Two in person.
Seven in requesting.
We speak by phone.
Also know for the record that we received three e-commerce in opposition.
For any individuals that requested to speak on item 14 by phone.
Please dial in to the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you.
We'll begin with the in-person speakers.
Allegedly, Audra has already approached the podium.
And also like to invite for more guests.
Thank you.
I've been brought my gavel just in case you'd like me to take over the meetings in July.
Can get some real good business done?
Make sure the budget is spent wisely.
Children aren't being trafficked.
Humans aren't being exploited.
That the homeless get into housing.
And you guys quit racketeering.
Oh, but that wouldn't allow you guys to continue.
You're arguing.
It's crimes in to get.
So that's not going to happen.
And I find it interesting.
It's like people are all worried about feelings.
So maybe while you guys are in your little break,
You can think about, I mean, what would I like be like if you've got the shit beaten out of you by an officer?
I don't know, you guys would probably play a card, Monaco would play a black card,
but I would play a brown card and Terry would play your due card.
So it's like, I don't know, what card do I get to play?
Being of the light and just, you know, being the salt,
and the light and coming in with truth, while you guys are just filled with sulfur, it's interesting.
how like people are concerned about feelings.
Better if I was black, brown or Jewish, and, you know,
got beat up in that hallway, dang, people would be pissed.
You imagine, but being a native American doesn't matter,
because I'm also white.
Uh, a number one, but we don't know what that is.
So it's like, I mean, I guess that's why it doesn't matter.
You know what I mean? I don't check enough boxes.
So I mean, you could ask people and you think I would.
I mean, people think I'm on the left.
Some people think I'm on the right.
People are very confused.
But it's just sad to see you guys sit there
and pour me about names.
All your own constituents have gotten the crap
being out of them, right?
Right in front of you, right in front of you,
and it didn't matter, but yet we talk about our feelings.
And we do want to silence free speech,
because it's so hurtful to how people say names.
Again, imagine if you were still injured from having the shit beaten out of you by a man who is extremely proud of it.
Good job.
Now, here from the individuals that requested to speak like, oh, we'll start with the first caller.
All of those, that's me, I like you want to break from hearing about the message you create.
But seriously, I think that it would be good to keep the dates of meeting open and less.
Mined items are always cropping up.
If you do this, the next Gregor Board meeting would be August 18.
In fact, the rules of procedures just that board meetings be held weekly and less otherwise
get so much later every two months would really be pushing it, you know, especially
one and a half months to mid-August.
You need to take care of the people, not make them wait if they actually do need your services.
You can cancel later if there's no new business or emergency business or something of that sort.
And people wouldn't have a firm day to go on for their fix or whatever.
But that firm day to go on to put down on their calendar,
another thing, if you can tell
us for a head that there will be no items on July 14th, maybe you are in fact able to
And I, I didn't see a few weeks earlier as, um, it's because the previous way,
um,
and now it all goes back to transparency and the, I mean,
that's why if you don't have, thank you, we'll hear from the next caller.
I'm going to follow here with this chiming in to, um,
Birds and encourage the board to start listening to people, great suggestions, like all the
bold and all the amazing people who are doing what they can to pay attention, and aren't
getting paid for any of them, so I mean, not least that out, but I'm not really paying that
for the tension because I, you know, I still got a carry on. I got my priorities. I don't have
assistance to help me out with my children. And yeah, but I'm still, I'm still interested in
still chiming in. And that's all I have to say because I truly don't even know what item
we're on. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you for that.
It's true. So as I'm eating my wonderful
I'm wondering, is this item? Is this an unofficial vacation in July to celebrate
here as charter destruction going on the ballot? I'm sure you guys have some other
evil stuff you could pass in July, right? But this is actually my favorite agenda item
of all time. I mean, I'm not of all time. I always support canceling meetings, of course.
I mean, I think while you're there, you should cancel August, September, October, November,
December canceled the 2027 meeting, but I want to give you reasons why. Why you should cancel all meetings, including next month.
You had a Korean flip manny on the ad box thing. Wow, someone's like the guilt just like came up on you like to a true
lot of money. And then you have a whole, a whole board of privileged people with multiple homes pretending they can relate to a
you can't even get the maps right. You had two different maps going. What map did the public get? Who knows? Who cares, right?
That goes back to their transparency thing. That's on the list.
You have a city of Senegal bias against the background tree. That's another reason to cancel meeting.
You have county council just bad and unlawful legal advice constantly.
Totally unqualified. Of course, I've covered that. You also have a lot of crazy things that are said.
I don't think that alone is a reason to cancel the meeting, so we can have some sanity.
I want to give just one example.
Monica, you're not the example today.
She's so happy.
I am sexy.
Please, ma'am.
The media.
Oh, sorry.
I got this the wrong one.
I was trying to play the one where, uh,
I mean, you said, uh, we need more inclusivity because, uh,
uh, it's exclusive to not have inclusivity.
It's, yeah, I was just so crazy.
But at the same time, I kind of changed your mind.
Let's have this meeting in July and cancel the one in August.
That would work better for me because, you know,
this is a torture table or selfishness.
So I think that makes sense, right?
Thank you, here from the next caller.
Actor, oh yeah, the resolution.
Thank you.
Oh, here from the next caller.
Hi, Blair Beakman.
Thank you.
Interesting item.
This is both the city of San Diego and the city of Oakland.
You know, I was from originally from the Bay Area
and I still attend the city of Oakland Public meetings.
Both of your meetings,
You're both their meetings, they're ending in mid-July, and it sounds like you guys are following the same practice.
It seems to be a group effort here that wants to cancel end of July meetings.
I don't know why that is. Could that be given some explanation and understanding?
I personally feel July meetings for government bodies.
They tend to be more open and free and good thinking, kind of a best thinking actually in July.
So I'm kind of surprised, this is happening.
If some explanations could be given,
that would be great, possibly in why it's happening
across the state would be helpful.
And I hope I could be attending a few more county meetings
and it was nice to hear your work in efforts today.
And good luck on building equity before austerity.
I've learned not importantly in San Diego to have a city.
They've done great work in that area.
Good luck in those sort of efforts.
Thank you.
Thank you, here from the next caller.
I've stated, go ahead and close up the meetings,
go ahead and figure out what you want to go ahead
and do because regardless, MBRA requires you
to go ahead and make sure you make a reasonable effort
to purchase files.
If you have it, you're going to have to immediately
the purchase of files. I think I want. And then when you purchase these files, take
you, Damon, you're going to be the one that's going to go ahead and show the world that
San Diego allows more non-citizens to vote than citizens. You're going to be the one
that's going to go ahead and show that. And then we're going to go ahead and explain through
the board members that all their actions that they've been taking. They probably should
address the elections, unless if they are accomplices, you know, under the NBRA, subtext,
I'm sorry, a election code, 18, 500 series, if that's the reason for why you've never
went in and looked at it, because by looking at it, you're going to have to address it.
By pretending you don't recognize the fact that you're not doing these projects, the fact
that you refuse to listen to anyone telling you these things, oh yeah, no, I'm going to
your nose in it. You're going to go in and provide me with that documentation. Then you're
going to go ahead and identify the non-citizens vote. Then you're going to have to make a tough
decision. Are you going to deport all of them? Are you going to charge all of them a hundred thousand
dollar fine? Or are you going to put all of them in federal prison? We're committing that crime that
you allowed them to commit. That you protected them to commit. Are you going to go ahead and call
about the NGOs that are actually voting for these people.
All these questions, you're going to have to ask yourself, answer what?
And after you get me that thing, 90 days after that, you'll have to go ahead and, you know,
who's something about it?
I'm not sure if you want to go ahead and go to jail for committing fraud.
Thank you.
Chair Lawson, River, that concludes public comment on this item.
Okay, turn the floor to super is there, Anderson?
Yes.
I don't have a problem supporting this today, but I have to board.
We were going to submit. It's all ready to go for that meeting.
We have a bunch of stuff coming
up at the election time and I saw that F3FM3 research in ironwood, public affairs. They had renewed
contracts and saw my board of theirs going to request that they do any election or polling or
of that information present to the entire board, but I just want to give you a head
up on that because I want to give them ample time.
So I don't think it's going to make any difference, but I was concerned about the timeline
getting pushed back too far.
Thank you.
Thank you for making that statement.
So now they'll be ready.
Yes.
Okay.
Great.
Happy to make a motion.
There's a second.
Okay.
Do we have a second from the Vice Chair, please vote?
Chair Lawson, remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present in
voting aye.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
I think we now are done with the items on the agenda except for closed sessions.
We'll go to non-agenda public comment and then to close session.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Chair Lawson, remember?
We have 18 remaining requests to speak a matter is not listed on the agenda.
10 individuals in person, and eight requesting to speak by phone, but those that requested
to speak by phone, please dial in at the conference line using the instructions that we're
provided to you.
Again, with the in-person speakers,
not seeing any individuals in the chamber,
I'll just run through the names just in case
that they happen to be in the hallway or across the hall.
Andrew Lawson, Marco Espinoza, Skylar Smith,
Carolina Garcia, Zett C. Dumte, and Asyn Chong,
and we'll now hear from those that request
to speak by phone.
We'll start with our first caller.
Again, you'll have two minutes to address the board.
Next speaker is Terry and Scully.
The device might be muted and
we can come back to you.
Great.
Let's be dumb with us.
It's true.
American citizens of here.
Question for terror.
What is the lionest rampant truck?
And how does that relates to your third house on Montenice
to drive in the city of Fed Diego?
Do you actually live in D3 or not?
Question number two for two homes manning.
Was that North Leftover flowers on your head yesterday?
Because it sure looks like it.
on June 5th, mental health of the first Friday breakfast at the San New Country Club in
Chulavista about connecting local businesses to county resources only if they paid a $27
entry fee for access to those county resources paid a play corruption. Then she wasted
her cash dollars on an egotistical logo for a crowd dub where she lied about her first name,
lied about being a surfer rather than the bodyboarder she used to be, and lied about ever protecting
are an actual environment.
On December 22nd, when we're all about a turkey giveaway, we are our special event trust
on where she gave up $754 worth of turkey to $57, SIAU members closed off to the public.
November 25, despite receiving $179,000 from UBW, Minulal Ploma owed $2600 to property taxes
and racked up $44,000 in campaign debt.
If you have an event, I'm very proud that someone could pay $200.
She'd become a friend who retires her campaign debt.
The show of pattern in practice, we never forget her and her dead be 30,000 credit card
dead if they grew up.
Let's look to the June 18th voice of San Diego South County report, post.
To provide your DNA health, a fundraiser at a downtown San Diego wine bar to help pay off
at least 67,000 on pay bills from her race last year.
Records show a year, and I spent close to $629,000 in quotes.
Moots for many.
How did you go from $44,000 to $67,000 in only seven months?
Why is there many paying your own bills for the $200,000 plus of your supervisor salary?
Maybe get a real job.
There was even an event as a smooth water-value civic association,
which will amount well-a-left before doing the pledge
because of course, change the America.
As a civically engaged in this and said,
you don't have the right to leave.
You have the wish to represent.
And you guys are failing miserably.
Have a great day.
Thank you.
We'll hear from the next call.
Why is the actor?
Yeah, I wish you guys would go to Zoom, like a city of San Diego to Zoom meetings, and that would make it a lot easier to call in and listen and everything, and even your technology person, I would have them learn how to do Bluetooth, so you wouldn't have to plug in the computer to put it up the screen.
If you guys just maybe hire a young guy, they could even do Bluetooth from home and put things on the screen, so it make it easier for everyone to access.
the meetings. And then it's kind of unfortunate you guys are taking July off, so it seems
like a lot of stuff happened and July is the it's white history month in July. And then
every other day and like the odd number of days are going to be white supremacy days. And then
like the first one July first is going to be examples of white supremacy and it's going to be
into rapping and stuff, but the best rapper in the whole world is the white guy, M&M.
So maybe white people are superior.
M&M, man, talk to any black rapper, all of them.
He did eat all those guys.
M&M is the man.
There's another white supremacy thing.
I don't know, man, but then on the second day,
we'll just go with the regular white hero.
And we'll pick out a woman to you, you'll advise, as a wife and a wife person, have your day and have your day.
Well, here from the next caller.
A couple things.
Did you all miss that July 27th?
Is Tara's birthday?
So, maybe that's why she wants the month off.
Second of all, did Paloma start a merch business with her new logo?
And I would love to reiterate the good news from the U.S. Supreme Court today, ruled in
favor of President Trump, limiting the number of asylum seekers in America, and reboking
the temporary status of serians, and Haitians, and others.
I suggest you read it, so you're educated, so you know exactly what's happening because
this is America's first.
Sadly, children continue to be under threat in this county because of the agenda of
and death pushed by the women on this board.
A Borschen kills pre-born human surgically or by the abortion pill.
I bet the three of you women, even though Tara's not there,
it's thrilled, more abortions have been committed since Roe
with 330,000 babies killed by the abortion pill alone.
And that's just maybe the numbers that are known.
And then bless their hearts, those babies are expelled
The ideology of transgenders and also threatened children is blatantly in their faces during
Pride Month and many other special days of the calendar year.
This county redefined women to include men, you know, individuals born with a penis, granting
them privileged position to pretend to be women and in their faces for girls and women.
You know, anyone can be a predator, men, women, straight,
tram, gay, lesbian.
Predator, I've been here in contextualizing
and grooming children by strangers or even parents
and people that they know.
And in some instances, or most instances,
they harm children to the point that children will not know
when they're being raped or how to say no, or when to seek help.
Rating's hospital is such a predator by committing and performing barbeque.
Thank you.
Hi
Natalie Rashke.
I just wanted to say that I'm not looking for anyone to save me.
When it comes to the EHVs, everybody in this city is on a weight list.
So there's about 358 or 85 EHV holders that will become homeless in November 30th.
I'm just curious when the city and the county come together and push the federal government
on doing these things, I was told I had 1230, so I planned my life around that, I didn't
create COVID.
I speak on behalf of a lot of people that don't have the ability to come and speak.
Whatever I need to do, I put myself in front of a federal government, I've been in contact
with Sarah Jacob's office.
They contacted HUD, I still haven't got a response.
There's no urgency.
On November 30th, there will be over a thousand people
that will become homeless,
and not sure if the county and the city communicate.
How that's going to affect the whole of San Diego.
Thank you.
We'll have for the next caller.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
This is Kathleen LeBitt.
I'd like to talk about this.
two biggest problems in the United States, as far as drug use, combining alcohol and
pot.
A alcohol and marijuana industries have run a decade's long campaign of normalization
and the marijuana industry effort to give marijuana a better name led to public acceptance
of it as a natural therapeutic and even harmless.
Public officials prioritize potential tax revenues, incentivized by industry lobbying, and
lie that the potential tax revenues would compensate for the harms they don't.
Alcohol is the number one drug in the U.S. through which American seek treatment.
That combined with the increasing normalization of marijuana has led to a cluster of
social and physiological harms including greater and longer lasting driving impairment than
either drugs used separately, even in small doses.
Gamma Research validated that finding in their study of the co-use of cannabis
edibles and alcohol.
This phenomenon is called the normalization of deviance, and it's a phenomenon that leads
to the false assumption that something risky is safe.
Public health needs clear and evidence-based messaging of the risks of psychoactive drugs.
and fail you to provide that mess again has contributed to the false confidence that the risks of both these drugs are acceptable.
Thank you very much for letting me speak.
Thank you.
We're now here from the center of color.
Good afternoon Board of Supervisors.
My name is Terry and Scaly and I work with my county planning group on good public health and safety policies in land use decisions.
I read that the City of San Diego approved policies on Monday that would create a registration
process for pop deliveries from outside the City of San Diego that are delivering in
the city but are not one of the city's permitted pot shop.
Their new policy would include those who are permitted to operate in other jurisdictions,
most registered, if operating in the city.
However, they were speakers who said they were going to receive permits from the county and
did not want to register for a permit to deliver into San Diego where they live and plan
to deliver POP. That was a scary declaration for two reasons. Number one, it is the county
SECP, just another example of those who don't live out here in the unincorporate communities
want to come here to harm it by high profile POP shops. And number two, it may be wonder about all
those pot entrepreneurs who continuously tell us that they're providing a necessary service.
However, they don't want to abide by the rules and registration in the city of San Diego to
deliver pot there yet intent to deliver there.
That makes the public wonder if the real motive behind selling pot is just funny, which
has always been the motive behind selling any kind of drugs.
Thank you for hearing my concern this afternoon.
Thank you, Vice Chairman, I'm going to rest up that concludes the request for non-agenda public communication for this session.
Okay.
We will now go to close session, meeting is adjourned.
Thank you.
The Board will now recess into close session to continue consideration of the matters listed in the item 11 and IHSS.
One on yesterday's agenda.
If there are any reportable actions it would be reported after the conclusion of close session today.