[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] . [0:01] . [0:02] . [0:03] . [0:04] . [0:05] . [0:06] . [0:08] . [0:09] . [0:10] . [0:14] . [0:15] . [0:16] . [0:17] and Supervisor Bezman, Chair for Autemogery, Vice Chair Montgomery Staff, and Chair [0:22] Lawson Remor. [0:23] Here. [0:25] So before we begin this meeting, I'll take a moment to address and remind everyone of our [0:29] house rules. [0:31] Public engagement is the cornerstone of a transparent and accountable government, and these [0:35] board of Supervisor meetings are one of the primary venues where all Sandigons can make their [0:39] voices heard. [0:40] Our county is committed to a work environment free from unlawful discrimination and harassment, [0:45] including sexual racial religious age, disability, or any other forms of discrimination [0:49] or harassment. [0:50] Under the board's rules, speakers may not use loud, shouting, threatening, and pertinent [0:56] slenders perfane or abusive language to any member of the board, staff or the general public. [1:03] All remarks and questions must remain on topic during the duration of your speaking [1:07] time, and must be addressed to the board, and not to county staff. [1:12] Any speaker who engages in comments that break these rules will be issued a warning. [1:17] After one warning, you will be asked to leave the chambers for the remainder of the meeting. [1:21] Finally, speaker's starting violence may be reported to law enforcement and removed from [1:25] the meeting. [1:26] This is a space for community engagement deliberation and progress, not for harassment violence [1:30] and hate. [1:31] We will now proceed with non-agenda public communication. [1:35] This is an opportunity for the public to address the board and subject matters within the [1:38] board's jurisdiction, but not an item on the meeting agenda. [1:43] The only action we board members may take is a referral to the CAO. [1:48] Speakers may speak once per meeting for non-agenda public comment either yesterday's land use [1:53] legislative session or today's general session, but not both. [1:57] And to facilitate our meeting, we will have five non-agenda public comment speakers in person [2:02] in five by phone in the beginning of the meeting, and the remainder will be heard at the [2:07] close of today's session. [2:10] In order to ensure timely completion of today's agenda, for any discussion item with 10 or [2:14] more speakers, individuals will have one minute to share their opinion. [2:19] And a reminder, according to ROL4A, members of the public that are not in the speaking and [2:23] need interpretation assistance, received twice a lot of time for their comments. [2:28] Audit members may not whistle, clap, stump, feet, or do anything that disrupts the proceedings. [2:32] If you disrupt the meeting, you will be given one warning, and after that one warning, if [2:36] you disrupt the meeting again, you will be directed to leave the chamber for the remainder [2:39] of the meeting. [2:40] Andrew, please call the speakers. [2:43] Thank you, Chair Loss Nurember. [2:44] We have 28 requests to speak, a matter is not listed on the agenda. [2:47] 15 individuals in person and 13 requesting to speak by phone. [2:51] For those that requested to speak by phone, please dial into the conference line using the [2:55] instructions that were provided to you. [2:57] We'll begin with the in-person speakers, and we'll now randomly select the first five speakers [3:01] in person. [3:02] All the remaining speakers will be heard at the conclusion of today's session. [3:08] We'll begin with the in-person speakers. [3:10] As your name is called, please, please, please, please, please stand on the arrows until it [3:13] is returned to speak at the podium. [3:14] You'll have two minutes to address the border last year to begin by stating your name for the [3:17] audio record. [3:18] I'd like to invite for the first three individuals, Shariah Adapah, Doyle Morrison, Tabland, Aruya, [3:26] and they'll be followed by the final two speakers in person, Oliver Twist and Anna. [3:31] Have you caught your name? [3:32] Please, come forward. [3:45] Good morning, members of the board. [3:47] My name is Shariah Adapah, and I am currently an intern with the summer youth academy with [3:53] supervisor Monica Montgomery staff, and I wanted to address potential littering and pollution [3:59] concerns. [4:00] Currently, California laws make littering punishable by fines up to $1,000, yet enforcement [4:07] is virtually non-existent. [4:09] The burden of the cleanup falls entirely on the county, costing taxpayers millions in relative [4:15] spending and reactive spending rather than attempts to fix the problem. [4:20] Research and social behavior demonstrates that visibly neglected environments saying the signal, [4:25] a signal that tells people littering is the norm. [4:29] So I urge the board to explore community, centered solutions, particularly ones that engage [4:34] the youth to participate in the clansiness of their own neighborhoods. [4:38] Thank you for your time and this opportunity. [4:42] Thank you. [4:43] Next speaker, please. [4:44] Hello, my name is Taitlanduria, and I'm with the supervisor of Montgomery steps summer youth [4:50] academy. [4:51] Thank you for your time today. [4:52] I want to first acknowledge and appreciate the work this board has already been doing and programs [4:56] currently in place to support people experiencing homelessness, I recognize and value [5:00] those ongoing efforts. [5:02] Homelessness is a series issue in our community, and I'm here to urge continued investment in [5:07] long-term solutions. [5:08] That means strengthening services like mental health care, substance use treatment, job opportunities, [5:14] and supportive services that help people regain stability. [5:17] Prevention is also key. [5:19] Rental assistance, crisis support, and outreach can help prevent homelessness before it starts. [5:25] Homelessness is a community issue, and it requires a continued community response. [5:29] I urge and encourage continues support for the existing programs champion by this board while building [5:35] on them to expand their impact. [5:38] Thank you for your time today. [5:41] Thank you. [5:42] Thank you. [5:43] Next speaker, please. [5:48] Good morning, Board of Supervisors. [5:54] First, thank you for your time and consideration. [5:57] My name is Ana Savito, and I am with Supervisor Monica Montgomery steps summer youth academy. [6:02] I am here to urge you to continue advocating and funding solutions for the Tijuana River Valley. [6:08] As you know, this issue has impacted both the people who reside there and the community [6:12] surrounding this area, which raises concerns for public and environmental health. [6:17] advocacy won't show that this problem becomes resolved while funding can solve and prevent [6:22] future issues from rising. [6:24] I encourage you to continue supporting investments in wastewater treatment and infrastructure [6:28] improvements in order to improve and protect the communities there. [6:32] Thank you for your time and commitment to resolving this issue. [6:34] Thank you. [6:35] Next speaker, please. [6:38] Good morning. [6:39] Good morning, all of our twists. [6:47] First, I'm happy to see the young people developing their public speaking. [6:50] So thank you for that program. [6:53] All of our twists here. [6:54] I want to take a moment to celebrate something bigger than any agenda item. [6:58] Happy birthday, America. [7:00] Nearly 250 years ago, this country remains one of the most extraordinary experiments in human history. [7:07] Perfect. [7:08] Absolutely. [7:09] Still evolving. [7:11] Always. [7:12] The grounded and a promise that is drawn millions from around the world, the promise of freedom [7:17] of opportunity and of a chance to build something better for yourself, your family, and for [7:23] the next generation. [7:25] What makes this nation remarkable isn't that we've gotten everything right, far from it, it's [7:30] that we keep pushing forward, ever striving to become that more perfect union. [7:35] The rights we enjoy, the doors open to innovation and ambition, the ability to speak, [7:41] to build, challenge, and dream. [7:44] These are not guarantees found in most of the world. [7:47] Here they are part of the very fabric of our great nation. [7:51] So today let's celebrate that privilege, not take it for granted, and carry forward the responsibility [7:56] and keep strengthening it. [7:58] Happy birthday, America. [8:00] Lastly to this chamber. [8:02] Getting back clapping, the happy cacophony of democracy, your double standard of allowing [8:07] clapping for your own proclamations for yourselves and your people of choosing, but not for [8:13] when we the people speak is not only hypocritical, it is also illegal. [8:18] Please refer to in-ray K. [8:21] A clause is a form of expressive speech and a feedback mechanism that communicates levels of support. [8:28] We're infringing on a critical form of public input, particularly for those who might [8:33] be too hesitant or too shy to speak, bring back clapping. [8:37] Thank you. [8:40] Thank you. [8:42] Is Doyle Morrison present in the chamber not seeing him present, I'll go ahead and call the [8:48] fifth speaker on the list, Sennaya Jamison. [9:06] Good morning Supervisors. [9:08] My name is Sennaya Jamison and I am here with Supervisor McGummery, Monica McGummery, [9:13] he's step summary of the academy. [9:15] I am here to speak about juvenile justice and the importance of creating assistance that [9:21] prioritized the rehabilitation of accountability and opportunity. [9:29] Investing a safe environment, mentorship, education and support resources allows youth to [9:40] grow, make positive changes and contribute to stronger communication. [9:44] Thank you for your time and consideration. [9:49] One out here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone, again, in accordance [9:53] of the board's rules will be hearing from the first five collars, the remaining collars will [9:57] be heard at the conclusion of today's session. [10:00] When it is returned to speak, it will be unmuted and you will hear a recording that will tell [10:04] you to begin your comments. [10:06] We will start with our first caller. [10:16] Go Mary Davis, I'm Paul Bob, like last meeting, I'm glad to say short discussion agenda [10:24] not the self-serving term limit expanding charter measure was approved for the ballot, so there [10:31] is no need for political bluff curing right now. [10:36] It can't be regularly engages an unlawful instruction to put off disclosure of embarrassing [10:43] tax wasting tax payer resources to keep the public in the dark. [10:49] This interferes with our right to advise and consent. [10:54] An act of revub looking democracy requires public participation by as many members of the public [11:01] as possible. [11:02] This is the route to getting the best ideas on how to fix the many problems and failures [11:08] in this county. [11:10] Most people are the US Constitution, but the California Constitution specifies an article [11:17] one section three, if the people have the right to instruct their representatives, a decision [11:24] government for the redorts of grievances, and a symbol for the ability to consult for the [11:30] government, good, be the people of the right of access to information concerning the conduct [11:37] of the people's business, and therefore the meetings of public bodies and the writings of public [11:43] officials and agencies cannot be opened to public scrutiny, and since Section B7 says, [11:51] if you have a colleague who says, you're by required to comply with the California Public [11:56] Curricards Act, and the Ralph M. Brown Act, and what's in a subsequent spec, you're [12:03] currently an experimenting either act. [12:07] That act is in this act part of the Constitution, and that's your showy rules or contrary, there [12:14] is a special challenge to do what we're doing here from the next column. [12:21] That goes slow here, the system is failing now more than ever. [12:39] We have local county, we have local county officials, really nearly throwing money at silly things [12:49] like soccer events, while their people within their districts are in need of the basics. [12:56] This is some remains of the same, although the only difference is that it's growing more corrupt [13:01] and sloppy, while officials have the audacity to become more arrogant as they fail at the basic [13:10] task of their rules, they play. [13:14] We have truth tellers with the blowers, people exposing truth, being punished, some sit and [13:19] jail, Andrea Ewing, some have gag orders on them, isn't it something the length, the system [13:27] will go in order to maintain itself, rules and laws for the, but not for me. [13:33] That seems to be the motto of our local county government agencies. [13:38] So I was sitting thinking of what to say. [13:43] I was just reminded of how I feel as though I've said it all and already I don't mind being a broken [13:48] record as I said yesterday, broken record, because I do realize that there are people who are [13:53] waking up to the illusion, and that illusion is this. [13:56] We live in a world where people look up to those who board money, who believe in a left-right [14:02] paradigm, who still believe that there are selected officials that are coming to save them. [14:10] As I mentioned, people who hoard money while children starve, and they are not people to be admired. [14:18] They are moral failures of our society. [14:22] And just as the selected officials of our county, they too are moral failures that work and promote [14:30] more of the globalists agenda as well, pretending to fix our county's problems instead, they are pretty good. [14:36] Thank you. [14:37] There for the next caller. [14:46] My name is Dennis Brown, and I'm representing the state of New California, represented by Paul [14:52] Preston, Governor of Pro Tempore. [14:55] I dropped off this letter to the Board of Supervisors, the county written. [15:00] The purpose of this notice is to ask for an opportunity to address the entire board and or present a claim, [15:06] contesting the certification of any election results. At the next regularly scheduled board meeting, [15:13] I am also requesting the board direct the register of voters to respond and request for the information below. [15:21] I invite Eric tension to the California election code section 1, 6, 1, 0, 0, d, which states in part any elector of a county city or any political subdivision of either may [15:35] contest any election held there within, or any of the following causes, d, that illegal votes were cast. They have been. [15:46] Factual basis of my request is that the common knowledge that there has been a flood of illegal aliens in California. It's counties and cities, it's school districts. [15:56] Those citizens have apparently been able to register with the Department of Motor Vehicles to vote with registration of these non-citizens have been provided with voter registration and election ballots. [16:11] It is also common knowledge that investigative reporters have discovered that some illegal non-citizens haven't that voted, providing these non-citizens voter registrations and election ballots gives you the members of the [16:28] Board of Supervisors and Register of voters to set aside and deny its certification is a number of illegal voters [16:35] as set forth in California election code 1, 6, 1, 0, 0, specifically so. [16:43] Thank you. We'll hear from the next caller. [16:52] Good morning. My name is Becky Rapp and today I'd like to raise concerns about moving [16:58] forward with the socially equitable cannabis program. At a time when the marijuana industry is already struggling throughout our regions, [17:06] this recently jacks cannabis and Ramona closed the stores. The business shutdown in April, [17:12] reportedly due to taxisote. This means that one of the five existing marijuana store fronts in the unincorporated [17:19] county is no longer operating. That closure should be a warning site. If existing businesses cannot remain [17:28] financially viable, why is the county considering creating additional permits and expanding the industry? [17:34] Before launching a new program, we should first evaluate the performance of the businesses that already exist. [17:41] The county has spent years discussing social equity and marijuana expansion, [17:46] but residents still have many unanswered questions. How much public money has been spent developing [17:52] in administering these programs? And how many existing operators are actually succeeding? How many [18:00] how much tax revenue has actually been generated compared to the cost of regulation enforcement [18:06] administration and program development? Before moving forward with this program, I urge the county to [18:12] provide a full accounting of all expenditures related to marijuana regulation and social equity [18:18] planning. The closure of jacks cannabis should be viewed as an opportunity to pause, [18:24] reassess, make decisions based on evidence, rather than assumptions. Thank you. [18:33] Thank you. Well, here from the final column this morning. [18:42] Good morning, Board of Supervisors and Riddle here. I called in to also express my concern about [18:50] the county's SECP, socially equitable cannabis program. We out here in the county unincorporated area [18:59] have many questions. And personally, as a health educator, a retired social worker. When I received [19:06] this latest invite to attend a webinar on Monday, I worried again. It was entitled health problems [19:14] from the emissions of cannabis cultivation. The three presenters are well known in their fields. The [19:20] webinar explored the often overlooked public health concern for the release of airborne toxins from [19:27] cannabis cultivation and their potential impact on the surrounding communities. This goes beyond smell, [19:35] which has also been a great concern within our unincorporated area. As we've had presentations [19:41] from the county, Santa Barbara regarding the nuisance suits that they have to handle because of the [19:47] horrible smell that cultivation created in their county. And those lawsuits are ongoing. The three [19:54] presenters are extremely well known within the medical community. One Dr. Cohen known to me as a certified [20:02] pediatric hominologist. His specialty has always been respiratory infectious diseases, particularly [20:09] as they apply to children, and he'll be our lead presenter, was our lead presenter. We have that second [20:17] presenter, was a well known environmental attorney who supports EPA Clean Air Act rules and often [20:25] appears before them. And he has participated here in California regarding cannabis cultivation. [20:32] And third, but not least, again, well known here in California. As a doctorate of [20:39] biochemistry, whose work has always been in cell biology and bureauology. She's particularly concerned. [20:48] Chair Lossler, remember that concludes public comment on the items not listed on the agenda. [20:53] Again, any remaining speakers we heard at the conclusion of today's session? [20:57] Okay, thank you very much. The next item on our agenda is the approval of the minutes and statements [21:04] of proceedings for the flood control district. Is that correct, Andrew? We do not do that yesterday? Okay. [21:10] And this is for the meeting of June 9th in June 10th. The Board of Supervisors Budget Hearing [21:15] of June 1st, and the minutes for the concurrent special district meeting. The housing authority of June 10th, [21:20] the in-home support of services public authority of January 28th in June 9th, and the redevelopment [21:25] of the successor agency of April 21st. Is there a motion to approve all of these minutes? [21:31] Okay, we have a motion from the Vice Chair, is there a second? [21:36] And we have a second-prime, a Supervisor Desmond. Andrew, please call the vote. [21:45] Chair Lossler, remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present in [21:49] what a night. Okay, great. We now proceed with the formation of the consent agenda. So this is [21:56] items 1 through 7, 15 through 17, and in-home support of services item 2, all items in the consent [22:02] agenda are routine and will be acted upon with one motion. Individuals can comment on the consent [22:07] agenda after Supervisor's pull any items they would like to pull for discussion or make any comments. [22:13] Wouldn't even have my colleagues like to pull any items for discussion or have comments and any [22:17] items from the in-home consent agenda. Vice Chair, Mark, can we step? [22:23] Let me make sure, nothing to pull, and I'm happy to move the consent agenda. [22:29] Okay, thank you very much. We have a motion on the floor from the Vice Chair, [22:33] Chair Pertemicary, I'd like to pull item 15. Okay, we'll be pulling item 15. [22:40] Supervisor Anderson? I have nothing to say. Okay, Supervisor Desmond. [22:49] Thank you, Madam Chair. I have set a comment on item number 4. I want to register in no vote, [22:55] and item 4 I'd previously voted against this. This is the creation of the consumer fairness [23:00] protection unit within county council. The district attorney's office already handles consumer protection [23:07] and cases and if consumer protection is a priority, we should hire more people in the DA staff, [23:13] not create a duplicative department. So I'll be registering in no vote item 4. [23:19] Okay, thank you very much. We have a motion on the floor from the Vice Chair for the consent agenda. [23:26] Item 15 has been pulled and Supervisor Desmond would like to register in no vote and item 4. [23:32] I'm happy to second the Vice Chair's motion. We can now go to public comment. [23:36] Thank you, Chair Lawson. Remember before we go to public comment, I would like to note [23:39] for the record that agenda item 16 on the general legislative session consent agenda and item 2 on the [23:47] in-home support of services public authority consent agenda seeks approval of adjustments of the [23:53] compensation for the chief administrative officer, clerk of the board of supervisors, chief probation officer, [23:58] and the in-home support of services public authority, or IHSS executive director, [24:04] pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 3, 3, A prior to taking final action. [24:09] The legislative body shall early report the summary of a recommendation for a final action on the [24:14] salaries, salary schedules or compensation paid in the form of fringe benefits of local agency executives. [24:20] The proposed adjustments was set the compensation at hourly rates as follows, [24:25] $270.39 per hour for the chief administrative officer, $119.23 per hour for the clerk of the board, [24:33] $144.49 per hour for the chief probation officer, and $91.13 per hour for the IHSS executive director, [24:43] substituted to approval. These adjustments would all be effective June 26, 2026. There were no other [24:49] changes to the existing fringe benefits and paid legal. Clickable to these positions with that [24:54] statement in the record. These items may remain on consent for approval. But that noted, we do have [25:00] 15 total requests to speak on items on the consent agenda for individuals in person, 11, 11, [25:06] requesting to speak 5 phone. As a reminder, item 15 was pulled from the consent agenda for discussion, [25:11] so any individual that requested to speak on that item, please hold your comments until the board [25:16] discusses that item. We will receive public comment on that item separately. For the phone [25:21] callers, this is the time to call in to speak on the remaining items on the consent agenda. Please download [25:26] the conference line now in the instructions that were provided to you. Go ahead and begin with our [25:29] in-person speakers as your name is called. Please come forward and stay on the arrows until it is your [25:34] turn to speak at the podium. You will then have two minutes to address the board. If you could please [25:38] begin by stating your name for the record. Also, when speaking please identify which consent agenda [25:43] items you were speaking on, you'd like to invite for the first three individuals, allegedly, [25:48] Audra, Natalie, Rush, Rush, and Marco Espinoza. [26:01] First of all, you should not have approved the minutes for the June 1st meeting. More terror was not here. [26:06] Noron, Cameron, there was no quorum. You have been sent to Kieran Correct. So, I mean, [26:11] whatever. The sheriff absolutely needs to have help with the medical care that's going on in [26:18] the jails. They're not equipped to deal with it. So, they do need to go to an outside entity that would [26:26] be able to handle the health care needs of certain individuals that are in there with the home key [26:34] program. So, I just would like to report that a woman was found to cease today at O-Lacht this [26:40] morning. That brings the deaths to 17 this year. And, you know, I'm even now like 30 or almost 40, [26:48] probably the entire time they've been there. I'm going to have to get a tally. But when you're talking [26:53] about putting people into homes and buying them, they can't even pay the rent. So, I mean, I think we need to [26:59] be kind of working with that. And that kind of leads to like, you guys are giving yourself raises [27:03] while people are just trying to make ends meet. I don't think any raises should be taken place, [27:08] especially when people who are getting such significant amounts of money are the ones to [27:13] termining the things for people who don't have anything. And like they would never be able to, you know, [27:19] have any kind of understanding of what that's like. So, all of the programs that you guys do actually [27:25] don't benefit the people that you claim that they will. And this behavioral health stuff, it's very concerning [27:31] what's going on with behavioral health because it is being used to silence people like Andrea, [27:35] a being deemed incompetent. Now she can be put in one of your mental facilities and totally [27:40] drugged up so that she doesn't continue to talk about summer stuff and in the crimes that have been perpetrated [27:45] against her and her children. So, it's very concerning when it is being used as a weapon. And it will [27:52] continue to be. And I'm sure you want to use it on Justin as well. So, when people are trying to get [27:58] changed to happen because of such a gorgeous thing, you shouldn't be silencing and using your behavior [28:03] of health unit. Next speaker called for Natalie Marco and we also have Michael Brando. You may come [28:14] forward in any order. I'm speaking to number 16 about the raises and this is in reference to [28:28] a performance evaluation. Andrew Potter actually had sent a message to Audra saying that yesterday's [28:37] video file of the meeting yesterday is complete an intact and in hole on YouTube. It is not. That means [28:46] that Andrew did not initially review Audra's request. There were skips, there were glitches, there were [28:55] stalls, there were speeches that were completely missing as if those people were not even here. [29:03] Therefore, I don't think someone who's saying something is okay and then finding out that it's actually [29:11] not based on us doing the work should get a raise. I also don't think that the CAO should get a raise [29:19] we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars. That seat, the CAO has been enrolled in [29:26] controversy. If you remember the lawsuit involving terror loss and rumor, Claudia Silver, [29:35] Helen Robbins Meyer, Michael Vu, that these pieces, these pawns up here are put there to uphold [29:43] a facade and an agenda that is not the agenda for the people here on this local soil. [29:50] So with anything, raises should not be given. [30:00] Salary duck reductions are in order. As Audra, which Tara has said that she's a parliamentarian extraordinary there, that's Audra being a parliamentarian extraordinary, she could do the job of Andrew. [30:16] The good thing is Andrew is going to remedy this situation, but it would not happen if we had not stepped forward. [30:24] Thank you. [30:27] Thank you. And then last call for Natalie Rask and Marco Espinoza. [30:33] Okay, not seeing any movement in chambers. We will now hear from those that have requested to speak by phone. [30:39] When it is your turn to speak, you'll be unmuted. You will hear recording that will tell you to begin your comments and we will go ahead and begin with our first caller. [30:47] All about our raises, limit them to 20 bucks an hour. See how the lowering comes to kitchen workers live for litigation authority. [31:04] What concerns me most is that this authorized is the county council to pursue litigation up the appellate chain, which couldn't involve the county in significant costs and consequences. [31:18] It all seems to me that I, the methods wrong and should be deleted. The county plays the juvenile and detention are placed by court order. The county should be responsible for the cost of that placement. [31:32] Okay, eviction should specify regarding county on property like item L. [31:38] At the end, opens the door to unnecessary litigation. I agree with Jim, you know, you shouldn't open up a new department either. [31:52] This is not a dictatorship and decision whether or not to initiate litigation effect should be in higher county, not ultimately main walls, everyone of us in the consequences. [32:06] The decision there for needs to be joint decision like a vote. The board should not be advocating into authority for us folks okay. [32:18] Three LBS guidelines. I'm glad that the first guidelines and voluntary detention under LBS Act constitutes a significant deprivation of civil liberties, et cetera, et cetera. [32:33] It's important for many people in government, known as mentioned, realize that they can't put someone away just because they don't agree with whatever they say, which is kind of like they independent state party where people have to sign on to whatever the county. [32:56] Thank you, your time is up. We'll go ahead and go to our next speaker. [33:26] When people are experiencing homelessness, it becomes much harder to access treatment, maintain recovery, manage mental health conditions, or reconnect with family and community support systems. [33:39] Substance these disorders affects not only the individual, but entire families. Children may experience trauma, instability and adverse childhood experiences that can impact their health and well being for years. [33:51] Veterans and individuals living with behavioral health challenges are especially vulnerable when they lack people housing. [33:58] Terminant supportive housing is an important part of the solution. Recovery and treatment are far more effective when people have a safe place to live and access supportive services. [34:08] Housing provides the stability that allows individuals to focus on improving their health, speaking employment, rebuilding relationships and moving towards long-term recovery. [34:18] I'm especially encouraged that this project will serve people experiencing homelessness who are living with mental health and substance use challenges. [34:26] Addressing these issues together is more effective than addressing them separately. [34:31] The funky funding represents an opportunity to bring additional state resources to San Diego County while supporting some of our most vulnerable residents. [34:39] I encourage you to approve this item and continue investing in evidence-based solutions that promote health, ease, safe and thriving communities for everyone. [34:47] Thank you. Thank you. We'll get our next call it. [35:02] Our next call here. [35:06] Thank you. [35:09] Okay, some more raises for the out of touch. [35:12] Sure, calling the shots for the ones barely surviving. [35:17] It's such a curse being awake and paying attention. [35:21] They have to call you all out. [35:24] As far as the home key program, I mean, that's going to be funded until it is proven to work, just like the project 25. [35:36] I believe that was the name of that program where it was 100% success rate and then it was defunded because it worked. [35:48] That was great. [35:50] Nobody was benefiting from these people because they were self-sufficient and they were. [36:04] And they weren't in need of government assistance. [36:08] So, I mean, I mean, all these items was just, you know, but the one that really makes my blood boils, the raises, like seriously the audacity, the arrogance of you all. [36:22] And because nobody's paid attention, that's one of my nobody's paid attention. [36:26] They're out of touch. [36:27] Well, imagine if all the new mothers got to bring their babies to work, mothers that chose to keep their babies because they weren't pressured by society to kill them. [36:38] Yeah, it must be nice right, Tara. [36:41] Oh, it could be sick. [36:43] I don't even care if there's a baby on your chest, truly. [36:46] So sad. [36:48] You are the worst of the worst girl when I will say it in front of your kids. [36:53] Done. [36:57] We'll go to our next caller. [37:06] Next caller is Terry. [37:24] Your phone might be muted. [37:26] Oh, I'm calling on some discussion item. [37:33] I guess I'll have to call back. [37:36] That is correct. [37:37] Yes. [37:38] Okay, thanks. [37:54] Good morning. [37:55] My name is Becky Rapp and I'd like to speak to items number one and three. [37:59] I support efforts to ensure that individuals experiencing a mental health crisis receive timely high quality care and that LPS does ignore the facility their health to strong standards of accountability. [38:13] I do have one concern regarding recommendation number two, which would allow future revisions of these guidelines to be made administratively without returning to the board for public discussions. [38:25] The behavioral health policies continue to evolve transparency and public input remain important, especially when changes may affect vulnerable individuals and their families. [38:37] I would also encourage the county to consider a serious issue that is often missing from conversations about mental health treatment and that's the role of marijuana youth. [38:47] This information is released almost daily linking high-potency marijuana youth with increased risks of psychosis, schizophrenia, depression, suicidal ideation and psychiatric hospitalizations, particularly among adolescents and young adults. [39:05] Many individuals entering crisis care today are struggling with substance use and mental health conditions. [39:11] That marijuana is often overlooked as a contributing factor. [39:15] As the county updates is behavioral health policies and oversight systems, I encourage behavioral health services to collect and report data on substance use, including marijuana. [39:29] Better data can help us better understand what is driving mental health crisis in our community and improve prevention efforts. [39:36] Thank you. [39:38] We'll go to our next speaker. [39:48] Good morning, Board of Supervisors and Riddle. [39:52] I called in to speak to item three and 16 which I realized you called an IAO-2. [40:00] 16 and IAO-2 have to do with an increase in salary and kind of upjust to the euphonism of adjustment in compensation. [40:12] Could we just say a raise in salary? [40:15] I think that would be the optics of using that type of terminology, but adjustment isn't fair to the public. [40:22] I concerned about three years one I supported having had to use this within a family member which is the idea behind it is to strengthen the requirements associated with bringing those involuntarily to mental health services. [40:46] The face of it is the terminology is scary. [40:49] The goal behind it is excellent, however, and you hear about it all the time from families who have individuals who are psychotic and definitely incapable of making it decision for themselves to seek mental health. [41:02] And so we need a family to have this opportunity. [41:06] I echo the previous speaker's concern in the case of my family member whose psychotic emphasis was caused by marijuana. [41:14] And I just think we're giving cannabis the spotlight it needs regarding what happens to our people in our counties who are using both in suicide. [41:25] The idea is to accomplish suicide rates are higher and psychotic breaks. [41:31] It's a very difficult kind of family to watch that marijuana use create that situation and people to create marijuana is so privilegedly it is not. [41:40] And I wish we could see more recommendations, recognition within the behavioral health services for its role. [41:47] And I agree that more data collection needs to happen so we can understand its role in the services. [41:54] Thank you. Your time is up. We'll go to our next caller. [42:06] Hey, it's truth item one Medicaid for criminal transit to taxpayers funding healthcare for criminals. [42:11] If only the death penalty was a thing again, the county could really save money. [42:15] I didn't see the home key program is one of the biggest fraud in the state. [42:19] The white man is one of the biggest profitors off of the fraud. [42:22] Yet another $20 million for the public private fashion partnership to get rich quick using the taxpayers dime. [42:29] I didn't bring the county crazies crown themselves the queens of the crazies in charge of street crazies. [42:34] Isn't it crazy how that means the real inmates are actually running the asylum. [42:39] Here is all about stealing money via frivolous lawsuits using we the people's tax dollars example she had many flow. [42:46] They're exploiting sushi chefs to extort profits from Japanese companies all to justify their occupation of the DA while refusing to investigate wonderful. [42:55] Kessa for labor exploitation and human trafficking. [42:59] I know five online filing is now available for many future unpaid property tax bills. [43:04] Future because she has a nasty habit of expecting everyone else to pay her debt. [43:09] I didn't $16, $119 an hour for Andrew to sit there and say next speaker please. [43:15] Wow, he does that for e-mails back, I'll give him that. [43:18] $207 an hour for Ebony to sit there and smile while the county burns down in debt and corruption. [43:25] Not all raises. [43:27] I'm 17 the county and the city of S. Condito have obviously decided east Valley Parkway is now a stack impact jumping ground to a benefit of the sendo community housing corporation and the national community renaissance of California. [43:39] The housing court is owned by the tender housing commission Monica's old buddy. [43:43] They don't need a bailout as they have $25 million in assets and $5.3 million in revenues. [43:48] They're CEOC or Miyajara make $323,000 a year. [43:53] National court is over 10,000 apartments, a hundred and ten properties and 1.3 billion in assets. [43:58] They don't need our help either. [43:59] Their CEOC punta was zero experience in housing using overpaying. [44:02] It's open to funds for Hawaii Institute that works on viruses. [44:05] Note all grits approved by psychotic grister. [44:08] Thank you. [44:10] Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. [44:19] Director. [44:22] Matt, what a racket you guys got going on. [44:25] That sounds like a racket. [44:27] I want to comment on once you're seven. [44:30] Anybody associated with any of these programs. [44:34] We need to check their legal status. [44:36] The people that work there and the people that are given money to. [44:40] No money to illegal. [44:42] And no. [44:43] We've got to give money or hold the count of two. [44:46] You have illegal guys getting some kind of benefit or money. [44:50] The guys that give them that money have got to be held accountable. [44:54] And so I'm just being in the dark about it. [44:57] And then the last. [45:00] Yesterday, they had that automation about them. The immigrant thing, why don't you put legal immigrant in front of it? [45:08] With having these immigrants that are illegal, the immigrants that are legit, they're not legitimate immigrants, they can't hear elderly. [45:18] And so, you guys were molding that stuff, just because you're sitting in San Diego town doesn't mean you're an American citizen or deserve the benefits. [45:29] So, you've got to have some integrity. [45:33] And then about the only one thing you should be doing now is focusing on the sewer plant down at Tijuana. [45:41] While all those are in our side, all the people are breathing that air, all the Mexican kids, the poor kids, the white poor kids down there, they're sucking the sewer gas every day. [45:54] It's unavoidable. [45:56] And you guys got no intention of, where's the plant? Where's the plant? Where's the plant? Where's it? [46:05] You guys got one drawn up? Yeah, it starts with a plant. You got to get the plant and then you got to start getting the money. What are you doing it? [46:13] Out of the Mexicans down there build a thing. [46:16] Which is unacceptable, Matt. On fire's road, the other day they're opening up the sewer line down and make the hookups. [46:23] I've cooked a whiff of that stuff on my bike. [46:26] Thank you. Your time is up. We'll go to our next speaker. [46:36] Pam. Let's see. Number one. [46:39] This medical treatment should be restricted only to immediate care not for elected treatment such as anything. [46:45] Trams. [46:46] Onke is a fraud. Number three. [46:49] Beware everybody. And look at the people on this board. The buck stops with them. [46:54] Over see in the San Diego County Psychiatric Institution and Mental Health Treatment of People living in this county. [47:00] Parents be familiar with state law AB665, a minor who is 12 years of age or older may consent. [47:07] May consent without your awareness to mental health treatment counseling as an outpatient or in a residential facility without an exit clause. [47:17] Number 16. Nope. No salary adjustments. [47:20] Don't know how anyone works for the county and good conscience. Oh yeah. Money and benefits. Not for the public good. [47:26] 17. Nope. Affordable housing is a lie. Let me just define what AI says. [47:32] A ghetto is a section of a city where a minority group lives usually do a social legal or economic pressure. [47:38] The term originate in the 1500s believe it or not in to describe a segregated area for Jewish people in Venice, Italy. [47:47] But it has evolved over time to encompass several distinct historical and modern meanings. [47:53] In contemporary usage, ghetto often describes impoverished inner city neighborhoods primarily inhabited by racial and ethnic minority, particularly in the United States. [48:02] So there's your stack and tax of affordable housing. [48:09] Thank you. We'll go to our next speaker. [48:23] Good morning supervisors. [48:24] John Bernie with lived experience advisors. [48:27] I am calling to speak on the items related to housing and behavioral health and jails. [48:35] I am always well as the salary issues. [48:38] I am concerned to see the salaries not listed in dollars and cents in clear annual terms. [48:45] So it really people understand the sheer numbers that we're talking about here. [48:50] All of these salaries are well over a hundred thousand dollars here. [48:53] Some in the multitudes of that. [48:56] I would echo that this is very concerning given where we're headed as in our economy. [49:02] Now as to behavioral health and jails. [49:07] As you know, the new good day center is formally going to be closed by the city of San Diego as of December of this year. [49:16] I'm asking the county take over this facility for public health and behavioral health reasons. [49:24] This facility offers the only nine-stall or ten-stall male, female bathroom facility with sinks in all of downtown for people experiencing homelessness. [49:37] It is a loss of more than half of the entire public bathroom offerings in downtown. [49:43] As you know, we've had multiple public health outbreaks. [49:47] It is also responsible for providing laundry as well as a place to wash your personal items and most critically. [49:55] It is the only place that any homeless individual could go during the day time and be unmelested by police or anyone else. [50:03] This is a safe space for women who are cannot sleep during the day. [50:08] We offer to operate the facility at expanded hours, 12 hours a day, seven days a week, for $900,000 a year. [50:16] That's got to be the best investment you could make today. [50:23] Thank you. [50:25] And with that, Chair Lawson remember that concludes public comment on the items on the consent agenda. [50:31] Okay, thank you very much. [50:34] We have a motion on the floor by a superintendent. Can we step a second by myself? [50:38] I suppose a jury has some comments. [50:40] Yeah, just a quick comment on a project home key. [50:43] I just want to thank Wakland Housing and the City of Chilovista for their partnership on this grant application even though it's still pending. [50:49] It's going to bring significant amount of units to district one that continues to seek critical need for affordable housing. [50:56] Thank you. [50:57] Thank you very much. [50:59] We have a motion of for in a second or a reminder that item 15 has been pulled and the supervisor doesn't deserve to be a no vote and item four. [51:07] Please go ahead and vote. [51:12] And Chair Lawson remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present voting aye. [51:17] And again, noting for the record supervisor. [51:19] Desmond voted no on item four. [51:23] Okay, we will now begin with our most central item for today of which is our budget. [51:33] This is items eight nine FL one, IHSS one, RSA one, FP one and S a one. [51:42] These are all our budget adoption discussion items which will be held concurrently. [51:48] These are all for vote items and we have county team presentation that we will hear first. [51:56] Then we will take a moment if there's any you know particular questions on the presentation then we'll do public comment. [52:03] And then we'll have an opportunity for board discussion. [52:06] So please. [52:07] Thank you. [52:08] Go ahead and enter. [52:10] Thank you. [52:11] Okay. [52:13] Our items eight and nine on the Board of Supervisors General Legislative Agenda, item one and [52:16] the agendas of the flood control district in whom supportive services public authority, the [52:20] redevelopment, successor agency, fire protection district, and the sanitation district for your [52:24] deliberation and adoption of the operational plan. [52:27] These items will be heard concurrently acted on with one motion should you desire to do so. [52:32] On May 18th, 2026, the Chief Administrative Officers recommended operational plan for fiscal [52:36] years 2026 through 2028 was released, budget hearings began on Monday, June 1, 2026 with members [52:42] of the public being given the opportunity to provide oral and written testimony. [52:47] Budget hearings concluded on June 11th at 5 p.m. [52:50] All comments received on the operational plan have been provided at the board to [52:53] meet available online. [52:55] Today's actions request that the Board consider the change letter and ultimately approve [52:58] the resolutions adopting the budget for the county of San Diego, county service areas, community [53:03] facilities, districts, certain maintenance districts, permanent road divisions, the fire protection [53:08] district, flood control district, and home support, services public authority, redevelopment [53:12] successor agency, and the sanitation district. [53:15] With that noted, I'll turn it over to Chief Financial Officer Joan Pratchee. [53:17] Thank you. [53:18] Good morning, Chair Lassumer and members of the Board. [53:21] Today we are presenting the fiscal year 2627 revised Chief Administrative Officers recommended [53:26] operational plan for the board to consider. [53:29] Last month we presented to you the CAO recommended operational plan which reflects the enormous [53:34] efforts through the organization to deliver a budget that is balanced and physically sound. [53:40] Having services for the public that residents can rely on today and into the future, [53:45] advancing county priorities, reflecting community voices, and evolving needs. [53:50] The budget is driven by our values, including critical safety net services, as well as behavioral [53:55] health and public health support. [53:57] It makes our region a better place to live, work, and play with major investments in public [54:02] safety and fire protection, roads, parks, and libraries. [54:06] The budget supports sustainability through open space and agricultural protection, new [54:11] collaboration to identify long-term solutions in the Tijuana River Valley, and green building [54:16] practices. [54:17] This budget aims to preserve important resources for generations to come on all fronts, while preparing [54:22] for an uncertain and dynamic environment in the upcoming fiscal year. [54:27] Since the release of the recommended budget, staff have developed some revised budget recommendations [54:32] through the CAO's change letter, which was released last week at the close of the budget [54:37] hearing period, we'll briefly cover those changes today, which are based on information received [54:43] by departments since the release of the recommended budget and what we heard during the public [54:47] hearing period. [54:50] Together, the recommended operational plan and the subsequent change letter culminate into the [54:55] revised recommended operational plan presented to you today. [54:59] This plan, which includes the budget for the upcoming fiscal year, represents a coordinated [55:03] effort across the entire organization, 20,000 workers strong. [55:09] As we recalibrate and align staff and resources to navigate changing state and federal requirements [55:13] in funding and leverage county resources in innovative ways while maintaining essential [55:18] support, it reflects a detailed look at available funding sources both locally and at the [55:24] federal and state level. [55:26] And to ensure the county is maximizing resources, I want to acknowledge and appreciate the county [55:31] employees who pursue and administer the myriad funding sources available to the county, maximizing [55:38] revenue for our region, helping to steward public resources and keep services running. [55:43] This budget is the product of the ongoing planning that happens throughout our organization [55:48] all year. [55:49] From the county's capital planning, which looks at county facility needs over the long term, and [55:53] is annually presented for the board's consideration and accession, this amount will fluctuate [55:58] from year to year and is based on our annual long-term capital planning process. [56:03] This year's budget includes funding for a new behavioral health-bombless campus, a sheriff [56:07] station in Ramona, planning and design funding for replacement of the sheriff's attention [56:11] facility in Vista, and important maintenance of our facilities. [56:16] This budget aims to provide programs and services that make meaningful differences for our residents [56:20] in every corner of this county, with this in mind, we navigate a changing economic conditions [56:26] and evolving community needs in partnership with this board, departments, labor partners, [56:31] and stakeholders. [56:33] That collaboration and vision for meeting future needs strength in this plan and the outcomes [56:38] that supports ensuring we maintain the hallmarks of county, fiscal stewardship with ongoing structural [56:44] balance, stability, and flexibility as recognized in the county's strong credit ratings. [56:50] The budget before the board is balanced, and it is reflective of the financial management [56:54] practices that define how we plan as an organization. [56:57] We don't operate at a deficit, meaning we don't plan to spend more than what we have. [57:02] A balanced budget, and healthy reserves, reflect the strong management and policies that sets [57:07] the foundation for the county's fiscal health. [57:10] Separate apart from the reserves, the board has set aside general fund balance, specifically, [57:14] to provide a buffer in a changing policy landscape. [57:18] That amount of fund balance recall unlock reserves, providing time to respond and to [57:23] recalibrate to steadily manage the services our communities rely on, and to manage the county's [57:29] long-term ongoing cost structure. [57:32] I want to thank each of our supervisors and our governing board as a collective for your leadership [57:37] in serving the residents of this region. [57:39] I want to thank members of the public, our communities for their thoughtful input and collaboration [57:44] all year long. [57:46] Today's presentation will briefly review the revised CAO budget recommendations and highlight [57:51] considerations that are top of mind as we enter into fiscal year 2627 and plan for the years [57:57] beyond. [57:58] I'll now turn things over to Amy Thompson, Deputy Chief Financial Officer. [58:02] Thank you, Joan. [58:03] Today, we're presenting the revised recommended budget, which reflects updates through the CAO [58:08] change letter. [58:10] The revised recommended budget now totals $9.16 billion, an increase of $3.8 million [58:16] from the CAO recommended budget, and adds one staff year for a total of 20,390 staff plan [58:23] to serve our communities. [58:26] This budget maintains essential services and reflects what we heard throughout the year from [58:30] residents, partners, employees, and the sport. [58:34] It is values driven, community informed, and focused on delivering real results. [58:40] The change letter makes small adjustments to the CAO recommended operational plan by proposing [58:45] in the sheriff's office, additional funding, and one more position for increased law enforcement [58:50] services, and grant funded services to help re-entry success of justice involved adults. [58:57] In land use and environment, added funding for road improvements and updated wastewater utility [59:03] charges in the Department of Public Works. [59:06] To continue transitioning behavioral health services, we plan to shift staff and associated [59:12] costs from the health and human services agency to behavioral health services and human resources. [59:19] Re-aligning functions without adding net positions. [59:22] The majority of transfers were included in the CAO recommended operational plan, and the subsequent [59:28] action reflects further work on the transition that continued into May. [59:33] Lastly, funding is proposed to extend the Moss Fresco Plus program, increasing access to fresh [59:39] fruit and vegetables, and to fund a feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development. [59:48] This slide summarizes the total revised recommended budget compared to prior adopted budgets, [59:53] including the changes that were just described. [59:56] For fiscal year 2627, the CAO's revised. [1:00:00] Overall, growth reflects focused investments in behavioral health, public safety, safety net programs, infrastructure, and support for the county's workforce. [1:00:11] This slide shows the budget reflecting behavioral health services separate from the health and human services agency based on recent reorganization. [1:00:20] The revised recommended budget was shaped by engagement with stakeholders and the county's priorities amidst the environment of changing economic conditions, changing service demands and organizational transformation. [1:00:32] To get here, we've looked closely at emerging needs evaluating what's working and recalibrating budget strategies to best serve our region. [1:00:42] This year's budget, before the board reflects those efforts and represents a balanced approach that maintains services while supporting needs that matter most to communities. [1:00:53] As mentioned, the revised recommended budget supports 20,390 staff and increase of 109 positions, or about half a percent from the current year's adopted budget. [1:01:06] The revised recommended budget increases by one staff year to support law enforcement services requested by the city of this step. [1:01:15] Overall, this modest growth is targeted and strategic, leveraging centralization and reorganization efforts to reduce the application and to maximize efficiency, allowing the county to focus and appropriate level of staff, where they're needed the most to address expanding or changing county responsibilities. [1:01:34] The additions primarily support areas of growth including safety net services, consumer protection, and the county's responsibilities under Proposition 36. [1:01:44] These increases were carefully balanced with reductions achieved through vacant positions and through attrition. [1:01:51] As in the prior slide, the slide displays behavioral health services separately and reflects realignment from countywide centralization efforts included in the CAO recommended operational plan to improve efficiencies. [1:02:05] This view shows the distribution of staff across all county areas and how we're positioning the workforce to me operational needs in the coming year. [1:02:15] Much of the work of county staff is evolving and response to changing state and federal requirements and funding significantly for critical safety net programs. [1:02:25] As the board considers budget adoption, it's important to remember that a significant portion of county funding comes from the state and the feds. [1:02:33] Decisions and policy changes made at those levels directly affect county resources and are associated duties. [1:02:40] The state of California is currently finalizing its fiscal year 2627 budget. [1:02:46] Throughout this process, we continue to advocate for sustainable funding for key community supports including funding to implement the federal changes under HR1 and new state requirements of Proposition 36. [1:02:58] We also continue to advocate for funding to address homelessness, mobile crisis response teams, and home support of services or IHSS, and to tackle the Tukwana River Valley pollution crisis. [1:03:10] The state has a challenging economic outlook that we're committed to ensuring the county's voice is heard. [1:03:16] At the federal level, budget development continues towards a new federal fiscal year beginning October 1. [1:03:22] Given the upcoming midterm elections and the current dynamics in Washington, there's some likelihood of another federal government shutdown. [1:03:30] If necessary legislation isn't approved by September 30th. [1:03:34] We continuously monitor developments in Sacramento and Washington DC and work closely with you so that significant policy changes are considered and built into development of the county budget throughout robust long-term financial planning process. [1:03:50] This includes anticipating and planning for capital projects, including the board's annual approval of the capital improvement needs assessment or seen a looking at essential needs. [1:04:01] The county's fiscal stewardship and ongoing planning positions the county to take on new challenges ensuring funds are available to help and emergencies while maintaining our core duties. [1:04:12] Local economic conditions are always changing, requiring constant management and updating the financial planning and decision-making. [1:04:19] This annual recalibration and response to these important considerations forms the basis of our work on the budget. [1:04:27] And of course also significant is the feedback we hear from the community. [1:04:32] The residents share feedback year-round and we use it to shape budget priorities. [1:04:36] During the budget development process we reach residents and the ways they told us works best for them through digital tools on engage San Diego county. [1:04:44] Pop-ups that live well centers focus groups community meetings and public hearings. [1:04:49] For the first time we partnered with community-based organizations to lead focus groups in all eight threshold languages. [1:04:56] Bringing in voices historically underrepresented in county processes. [1:05:00] Clear accessible communications supported all engagement efforts, including the budget website and county news center, [1:05:07] Insight social media, email and more ensuring residents have the necessary information to participate meaningfully. [1:05:14] More than 2,400 participants provided more than 2,200 pieces of feedback on this budget, [1:05:20] highlighting a range of community priorities service needs preferred investments and communication and engagement preferences. [1:05:27] A copy of comments on the budget from community members has been shared with the board for budget deliberations. [1:05:34] Today's item asks the board to take several actions that finalize the fiscal year 2627 budget. [1:05:41] We're asking the board to approve the CAO's operational plan change letter and adopt the fiscal year 2627 budget resolutions. [1:05:50] We're also asking the board to authorize the carry forward of prior year in conferences, [1:05:55] which ensures funding remains in place for commitments that are still in progress. [1:06:00] And finally we request adoption of a reimbursement resolution which will allow the county to reimburse eligible costs with future bond proceeds. [1:06:08] Together, these actions complete the board's budget adoption process, ensuring that the county has the authority and flexibility needed to continue delivering critical services and support for the community in the year ahead. [1:06:21] Moving towards a vision of a just sustainable and resilient future for all. [1:06:25] I'll turn it back over to Joan. [1:06:27] Okay, thank you Amy. [1:06:28] The county team has taken a thoughtful, collaborative approach working with the community and other stakeholders to prioritize critical services. [1:06:37] Streamline operations and proposed solutions that are responsive to the needs of our region today, while ensuring financial stability and flexibility for the road ahead. [1:06:46] This budget is the product of the hardworking members of the county team, including the program groups into the leadership of the general managers. [1:06:54] Department heads in the many experts across our departments who have generously shared their knowledge of the services we provide and innovative ways to deliver them more effectively, including our mighty deputy CFOs and finance directors, [1:07:06] Department finance staff and the office of financial planning. [1:07:09] We are also grateful for the partnership of elected officials who lead a dedicated workforce including the assessor reporter County clerk, district attorney, sheriff and treasure tax collector. [1:07:20] And at the heart of all, we value the many community members, the people we serve who make time to share their voices. [1:07:26] Engagement throughout the year matters and it is reflected in what is before the board today. [1:07:31] We remain committed to working together to meet today's needs and build a stronger future for this region. [1:07:36] Subject to your questions, this concludes this death presentation. [1:07:41] Thank you so much. [1:07:43] Any quick questions from my colleagues before we go to public comment? [1:07:47] Okay, let's go to public comment, thank you. [1:07:50] Thank you chair, last and remember we have 56 request to speak on these items 43 in person and 13 requesting to speak by phone. [1:07:57] Also note for the record that we received 40 e comments, 36 in support, two in opposition and one neutral. [1:08:03] For any individuals that requested to speak on the operational plan items that, again, those are items eight and nine in the special district items. [1:08:10] By phone, please dial in the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you. [1:08:15] So begin with the in person speakers, as your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium. [1:08:20] Because there are ten and more speakers on the side of me, I'll one minute to address the board. [1:08:24] And the last get a please begin by stating your name for the audio record. [1:08:28] I'll be calling you in groups of three, so ask you to please listen for your name. [1:08:32] Like to invite for the first three individuals. [1:08:35] Nicole Lily. [1:08:37] Lilyana and Louise Guetta. [1:08:39] If I have caught your name, please come forward. [1:08:54] Louise Guetta. [1:08:56] Good morning supervisors. [1:08:58] My name is Louise Guetta. [1:08:59] A district one resident representing the immigrant offenders law center. [1:09:03] I'm here to urge you to approve the 13.2 million needed to fully fund the immigrant legal defense program. [1:09:10] As one of the largest immigrant legal service providers in California, we've seen the man search. [1:09:16] In the past year alone, we received over 3500 calls, but could only represent 300 individuals. [1:09:22] The need for exceeds our capacity. [1:09:25] The legal support we provide is a lifeline. [1:09:27] Our immigration system is complex and often on just what limited access to due process. [1:09:33] No one should be separated from their family simply because they lack legal representation. [1:09:38] ILVP ensures people have a fair chance to be heard protected and remain with their loved ones. [1:09:44] We respectfully urge you to advance invest in ILVP. [1:09:47] Thank you. [1:09:50] Thank you. [1:09:51] Next speaker, please. [1:09:53] I'll go ahead and call additional speakers. [1:09:55] Nayelle Castillo Center, Sun to Ario, Patricia Mondragon. [1:10:00] Hey, Sue Spantine, Gae, Gosponios. [1:10:03] Have a call to name. Please come forward. [1:10:10] Hello. Sorry. My name is Nicole Lily. [1:10:13] I'm the executive director of our time to act. [1:10:16] We are a youth-led 501-C3 nonprofit organizing powerful youth for an inclusive equitable and sustainable future. [1:10:22] I'm here to urge this county to prioritize people in this budget and follow the recommendations of the community budget alliance. [1:10:29] We are in a very difficult time in San Diego and across the country. [1:10:34] People are being abandoned. Our basic needs are not being met. [1:10:38] And it is more critical in this budget cycle and in our local governments that are county and city show up for our people. [1:10:46] And make sure that we close the gaps in healthcare and in housing and in all of the services that are so essential to everyone's daily lives. [1:10:54] So I strongly urge this body to adopt the recommendations of the community budget alliance and also support the partnership for the advancement of new Americans asks as well. [1:11:09] Thank you so much for your time. [1:11:12] Thank you. [1:11:13] Next speaker, please. [1:11:15] Good morning. [1:11:17] My name is Nayelle Castillo, Sun to Ario and I'm an office assistant at the Mighty Metro Family Resource Center here in downtown. [1:11:23] Which is sister offices with the center city on 12th and Imperial. [1:11:27] The new 100 human services specialists will greatly help our operations but we also need more office assistance. [1:11:34] And may of this year we received over 800 walk-in applications but we only had between two and nine office assistance available at any time to register those applications. [1:11:43] The walk-in applications combined with the online applications totaled over 3200 with over 2,300 of those passing the initial screening and being referred for scheduling. [1:11:52] This is not a typical. [1:11:54] We received thousands of applications each month but we only have between 20 and 30 intake workers consistently available to conduct interviews. [1:12:01] Having adequate staffing would reduce the stressful workloads of our OAs and HSSs which would reduce the number of errors being made which would reduce the extended wait times that some customers experience. [1:12:11] Please help us help our community. [1:12:13] Thank you. [1:12:14] Thank you. [1:12:15] Go ahead and call three additional speakers. [1:12:17] Again, if I call you name please come forward and line up on the arrows. [1:12:20] Vanessa Melendrez. [1:12:22] As me. [1:12:23] Contero Kubion. [1:12:24] Grady O'Brien. [1:12:38] How do supervisors? [1:12:40] My name is Ed's man. [1:12:41] I'm a resident of D4. [1:12:42] I'm an organizer for SC Pride and a member of the LGBTQI plus regional table in the community budget alliance. [1:12:49] I'm speaking in support of the adoption of the county budget. [1:12:52] That fills the gap of our federal government has left us. [1:12:55] Specifically means supporting the inclusion of the UID, the ILDP and the eviction diversion program. [1:13:02] In the most recent U.S. trans survey, 8% of trans people were identified to be unemployed with close to 70% experiencing some form. [1:13:11] Of job discrimination. [1:13:14] With that in mind, please fund the services that help not only prevent our eviction, but also maintain a sense of economic justice with trans people in mind. [1:13:22] I would also like to shout out Pana's ask as well. [1:13:25] Please support all of them. [1:13:27] Thank you so much. [1:13:29] Thank you. [1:13:30] Next speaker is coming forward. [1:13:31] I'm going to invite three additional speakers. [1:13:33] Ashley McCollog. [1:13:35] Huxley, Sundari, and Karina Pue. [1:13:37] I've called your name, please. [1:13:40] Good morning. [1:13:42] My name is Grady O'Brien and I live in District 4 and I'm an intern with students for economic justice. [1:13:46] I'm a San Diego City College graduate now heading to a 4 year university and I urge you to support the feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development. [1:13:53] Are you deserve support and access to a future that treats them with care and love? [1:13:57] If we want those values to be reciprocated back into our community, we need to put them into our youth first. [1:14:02] Giving more money to the sheriff does not make people feel safer. [1:14:05] Thank you. [1:14:08] Thank you. [1:14:09] Next speaker, please. [1:14:11] Good morning. [1:14:13] Board of Supervisors. [1:14:14] My name is Ashley McCollog. [1:14:15] I live in District 4 and I'm a college student currently in turning with the Center on Policy Initiatives. [1:14:21] I strongly support this revised budget in item number 8. [1:14:25] Specifically, the investment of a $250,000 feasibility study to explore the creation of the city. [1:14:31] My environment growing up could have pushed me down the wrong path, but thanks to mentors with the my community. [1:14:41] I'm standing here today. [1:14:43] Culturally relevant, trauma-informed community-led care and services is how San Diego can ensure the future of our youth. [1:14:50] Because young people in San Diego County deserve care. [1:15:00] And not criminalization or confinement. I'd like to thank the youth advocates and the community [1:15:05] organizations to help push for this investment and youth. I'd lastly like to thank Supervisors [1:15:11] Monica Montgomery Step and Ploma Geary for their commitment to a safer and healthier communities. [1:15:18] Their leadership reminds us change is important and shows our youth their voices matter. [1:15:23] Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Huxley Alexander Cidery and I live in District 1 in [1:15:35] Ohio. I'm here with the Center of Policy Initiatives and I'm accompanying the community budget [1:15:39] alliance. As a student and someone who aims to be a youth organizer, I've seen how many people in [1:15:44] communities I have lived in across California such as Palm Desert and here are trying to build [1:15:48] stable lives while dealing with immigration fears and a lack of accessible support. [1:15:52] Such is why I urge you to approve the recommended budget, especially the immigrant legal defense program. [1:15:58] As a key boarder city, it is our duty to welcome those seeking asylum, safety, and citizenship by meeting [1:16:04] anyone where they are at in the legal process of that comes when navigating a status here. [1:16:10] The right to do process applies to every person in U.S. jurisdiction and requires in its [1:16:14] need to help those in the system, which is why I urge the county to expand funding 13 million [1:16:18] to meet the high demand the service provides. I urge you to care for human beings looking to build upon [1:16:23] the American dream we have sold the world for 250 years. Thank you. [1:16:29] Thank you, as the next speaker is coming forward on Vite 3 additional speakers, and as does [1:16:34] you, check us, check St. Coena, Grace Hardy, and Gladys Dougadillo. Good morning, Supervisors. [1:16:42] My name is Karina Pue, my pronouns are she, her, and I'm here today on behalf of the San Diego LGBTQ [1:16:47] Community Center and a member of the San Diego LGBTQIA plus regional table and our community budget [1:16:53] alliance. Today we're asking you all to vote and support of our most vulnerable neighbors in San Diego. [1:16:59] Many LGBTQ plus folks flee their countries here to escape homophobia, transphobia, and other [1:17:04] persecution. Our entire immigrant community deserves access to due process, so we're asking the [1:17:09] county to adopt a budget with a full allocation to the ILDP. In addition, please fund programs like [1:17:15] the eviction diversion program, the Department of Youth Development, and nutrition security as well as [1:17:20] our partner Paners asks. These are all programs that will just better disproportionately access [1:17:24] by our LGBTQ plus communities as our communities overrepresented among many of these underserved [1:17:30] populations. The budget must be a document that reflects equitable investments into our San Diego [1:17:34] region. Thank you. Hello, I'm Grace Hardy and intern with Children First San Diego and a district [1:17:45] three resident. I first want to thank you for supporting Healthy Development Services and funding [1:17:50] discussions, especially with tobacco settlement funds and being open to learning more about the [1:17:54] decline of prevention and early intervention services for kids in San Diego. My families live in [1:17:59] San Diego after moving many times. My dad is active duty in the Navy, so I've been in San Diego and [1:18:04] out of San Diego and I've come back again in about a million times. I grew up overseas, both in the United [1:18:09] States and on different bases internationally, and I could tell growing up the communities and [1:18:15] countries that prioritize kids were fun and secure, and now that I'm old enough to reflect on my upbringing, [1:18:20] I realize that those communities were also sustainable. I speak to you with concern regarding the [1:18:24] lack of prioritization and funding for kids, especially regarding their safety and health. For example, [1:18:29] as I'm sure you're aware, there has been a decline in program revenue for first five San Diego as the [1:18:33] funding reliance on attacks on tobacco, which people are just simply buying less of. In 2016 and 2017, [1:18:39] the operating budget for first five San Diego was right under $43 million, and the $2026 to $27 budget [1:18:45] is right at $26 million. Not only is it not a lot. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. [1:18:55] Good morning. My name is Gladys Delgothio and I live in Escondido. This county has identified [1:19:00] a $300 million need to protect the natural lands that clean our air, filter our waters and protect [1:19:06] all the species found here and nowhere else on earth. And yet this budget invests $0 for that purpose. [1:19:12] Meanwhile, the county may be spending money on an illegal mass surveillance program. I cannot [1:19:17] confirm whether flocks safety is still in this revised budget because it was never made a line item. [1:19:22] In a budget this tight San Diego deserves to know exactly what is being funded and at what level. [1:19:27] The board must increase transparency in next year's budget process, especially for controversial [1:19:31] line items. I respectfully request the board redirect any and all flock funding in this budget to [1:19:37] conserve in San Diego's wild lands for future generations. I also stand in solidarity with [1:19:41] the request of the San Diego Community Budget Alliance. And I thank you for investments in [1:19:46] nutrition security, health care, and the youth feasibility study. Please protect these commitments. Thank you. [1:19:52] Thank you. Before the next bigger begins, I'll light three additional speakers. Suhi Niyato, [1:19:57] Ian Sorelo, Courtney Baltiski. Good morning, supervisor. My name is Anastasi H. Xu Hina. [1:20:04] I live in District 3 and I'm a small business owner. I urge you to stand with immigrant communities [1:20:11] and approve the proposed budget for the immigrant legal defense program and fully funded. [1:20:17] My family came to the United States from Ukraine in 2020 when it took after Russia's full scale [1:20:22] invasion. As someone who is rebuilding their life here and still navigate in the immigration system, [1:20:29] I know how complicated and stressful it can be, even for people who legally present in the country. [1:20:36] When someone faces the detention or immigration proceedings, access to autonomy can make all the [1:20:42] difference. No one should have to face complex legal system alone simply because they can't afford [1:20:49] legal help. Immigrant legal defense program helps protect the you process and ensure that vulnerable [1:20:55] people have access to legal representation when they need it most. I respectfully urge you to [1:21:01] support that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. [1:21:09] Good morning. My name is Suhi Niyato. I live in District 8, Sanizizero. I am a CIU local 221 union member, [1:21:18] which is part of the community budget alliance. I've had the privilege to work for the county of San Diego [1:21:23] Health and Human Services Agency under the Department of Health and Human Services for four years. [1:21:28] My duty as a Human Services Specialist is to provide services for those members of the community [1:21:34] that are in dire need of assistance, basic necessity such as food and health care. [1:21:46] This brings me to the reason for my participation today, which is to bring awareness of the impacts of [1:21:50] HR-1 has had on self-sufficiency services. With the current budget, re-adjustment services, [1:21:58] such as CalFresh, MediCal, have severely been impacted. We are able to see this through the numerous [1:22:04] customer interactions where the predominant emotional expression consists of anxiety, fear, frustration, [1:22:08] and despair. Our share throughout the county of San Diego. As an [1:22:15] speaker, coming forward on the right three distance speakers, all of our twists, [1:22:18] allegedly Audra, Natalie Rashke, come on down. Thank you. Good morning, Honourable Supervisors. [1:22:27] My name is Courtney Baltiske with the William C.A. of San Diego County. We're also leaders and partners [1:22:32] in the children. First, collective, the TU1 River Coalition. We want to thank you for all of the [1:22:38] hard work of staff and the supervisors and teams throughout the budget process. We've had incredible [1:22:44] experiences, lifting important issues with each of your five teams across this fiscal year, [1:22:50] everything from safety around water and ocean side to greater awareness about bike safety. [1:22:57] But we still have a significant need for guaranteed funding for some of the most important health and [1:23:03] safety issues in San Diego. That includes dedicated funding for child care and safe spaces for our [1:23:10] youngest learners, and it also includes the TU1 River Valley, which we know will be considered [1:23:15] out of reserves. It's extremely disappointing to hear that some of the state budget asks are falling [1:23:21] through, and we need guaranteed funding to end this pollution crisis. Thank you. [1:23:26] Thank you. Next speaker, please. [1:23:34] Hi, good morning. Oliver Twistie, K.A. Mary Davis. Thank you for the report and for the emphasis on the [1:23:39] balance budget. However, what goes on said was, in fact, it's a services deficit, and I would [1:23:44] actually like to see a chart that shows things that you're aspiring to do where you're following short [1:23:49] instead of covering it up and acting like there is not a gap there. So let's be honest about that. [1:23:56] Also, I would like you to do whatever the city of San Diego is do. You do the opposite. Stop the [1:24:01] progressive pipe dreams and peppery. We need to return to pragmatism, where we are focused on a [1:24:07] mass low hierarchy that we are funding. Our needs and infrastructure first. In particular, the [1:24:12] VISTA detention facility is critical. What happened with Lake Hodges Dam when they put that off. [1:24:18] It went from 275 million to now estimated 700 million. You are only going to get yourself in a further [1:24:24] hole in the ground. Also, I'm here to advocate for the unincorporated areas. Start showing love to [1:24:30] the press that there are very underserved community. Thank you. [1:24:36] Thank you. Next week. Hi. Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Lilliana Soriano. I am the [1:24:42] director of policy at Youth Will, where you thought because you're going to see it. And we're also [1:24:47] a member of the community budget alliance. Also, as myself, I live in District 4, but we do work across [1:24:52] the county. My vision for the county is one where every young person has everything that they need to [1:24:57] be happy, healthy, and reach the full potential. And that's why I urge you today to approve [1:25:02] the recommended budget, which includes full funding for key people first investments, such as [1:25:07] Nutrition Security, Demigration Legal Defense Program, a feasibility study to create a department of [1:25:14] youth development and funding for the global village. These are kinds of investments that keep people [1:25:19] supported, housing connected to opportunities throughout the county. But while our community struggle [1:25:24] to afford housing, health care and basic needs, many continues to support and to [1:25:28] criminalization from pop 30 states to share over time to build more jail capacity. And that doesn't [1:25:34] support young people directly. So I urge you to choose care over criminalization, investing in [1:25:39] services and opportunities of people thinking. Thank you. I'd like to invite four or three additional [1:25:45] speakers. Maria Alina Greenman-Lind, Bell and Hernandez, and Marco Espinoza. I've caught your name [1:25:53] please. Hi, thank you for hearing me today, Natalie Rashke, District 3. I just wanted to share [1:25:59] some of the things that you have to deal with when you're in house, let alone all the other things. [1:26:07] During my time of being homeless, this is what I was dealt with. These are all tickets. These are just [1:26:15] some of them. So add that on to working the 20 hours a week, trying to get sleep, [1:26:25] dealing with life and this. This is just some. These are tickets for being parked. [1:26:33] You can get ticketed for so many things. And now we have to worry about how we're going to get food. I have [1:26:40] an EHV that gets put in November. I will be homeless again in November. Four children. Thank you. [1:26:51] Thanks, Peter please. Good morning, County Board of Supervisors. My name is Maria Alina Greenman-Lind [1:26:58] and it's honor to be here with all of you. I had to speech ready, but something that really caught my eye [1:27:03] and I would like for all of us three such like these three beautiful visions of San Diego County [1:27:08] of what County County can look like. But what we do see missing are two-dimensional to touch [1:27:13] of facilities that represent who our youth are currently right now. So I want to ask you guys, [1:27:18] every time you guys come in here to make a decision specifically for $250,000 adoption for the [1:27:24] feasibility study. Think about is this really who San Diego County is and do we want to reach that [1:27:30] vision? I ask you to please take into heart the youth voices that need to be heard. Their experiences need [1:27:36] to be uplift and created better resources. And I truly believe this $250,000 office ability study [1:27:42] will create this vision into our reality of San Diego County. Thank you. [1:27:49] Thank you. Good morning, supervisors. My name is Bill and Hernandez. Here's speaking on behalf [1:27:54] of the mid city community advocacy network, mid city can. And I want to say thank you for being [1:27:59] receptive to our students, so youth and the adult who have been here to speak for the department. [1:28:06] I use development. I know structural changes at the county can be difficult for us to come on board [1:28:14] for but this is just an initial study for us to discuss. What are the needs in the county and what [1:28:22] needs to be done because we know the youth need greater support. So we look forward to working with you [1:28:28] in the coming months to structure that study in a way that makes sense and see what we can do next [1:28:36] in our county and thank you again. Thank you. Excuse me for please. Good morning, Marcos Penosa. [1:28:46] Madam Chair and baby, less than a few seconds. Nice surprise though. Yes, motion approved and I'm glad to [1:28:55] see the words of heard from earlier this year when about the feasibility study for the child development [1:29:04] department is becoming a thing. So excited to see that. Thank you very much. You'll back. [1:29:12] Thank you. That's next speaker's coming forward. I'll invite three additional speakers. Jerry Hall, [1:29:19] Harohen, Harry Haran and Jesse Schmitti. Nine plus billion dollars and we only get one minute to address [1:29:28] the negligence that takes place and I have significant concerns about you developing a youth [1:29:35] development department. When I have first-hand witnessed the crimes against children that you guys are [1:29:42] engaged in by ripping families apart and seeing that children are adoptable. So that's a reason to adopt [1:29:50] them out, not to protect them but because they're adoptable it's a very lucrative business and you're [1:29:56] very much engaged in terminating parental rights. In fact. [1:30:00] In fact, I know a handful of children, including Malaya and Ziya Robinson, Omar Bayani, Wailin. There are so many children that are set to lose their families. And this is the kind of stuff that you engage in. [1:30:13] You're lucky that's not your daughter, Tara. Do you give her a kiss? [1:30:31] Speak up please. [1:30:37] Good morning, Supervisors, chair and baby. [1:30:41] And the community. I speak to her, Judith. [1:30:46] I'm sorry, my name is Jerry Hall of District 1. I applaud your spending the money to conduct [1:30:56] the feasibility study for the youth development department. [1:31:02] Much like that department, though, there's opportunities to save tens and tens of millions [1:31:07] if not hundreds of millions in our public safety system. And if we have to go through this process, it's frustrating [1:31:15] because it's a brief process where we can need to get community support and get everybody's attention. [1:31:24] And these are things that should be happening in a planning process throughout the year. [1:31:28] So right now, our behavioral services, we put out a budget in April. And here we are 60 days later after all the community [1:31:37] meetings in the programs and services budget to that change by $1. [1:31:42] Excuse me. [1:31:46] Good morning, chair and Supervisors. My name is Jesse Schmitti, [1:31:52] State Policy Manager for Alliance and Diego. Thank you all for working with our organizations and [1:31:57] coalitions as we close discussions around the county budget. [1:32:00] We respectfully urge your support for both the immigrant legal defense program and the eviction of version program. [1:32:05] Here in San Diego, we are on the front lines of immigration policy. [1:32:08] We've seen civil immigration arrests increased by more than 1,500 percent while detention [1:32:13] questions that our child has served dramatically. At a time when families are facing unprecedented uncertainty, [1:32:19] access to legal representation is not a luxury, it's a matter of due process. [1:32:24] The immigrant legal defense program ensures that people are not forced to navigate a complex legal system alone [1:32:29] and helps keep families together during some of the most difficult times of their lives. [1:32:34] Likewise, the eviction of version program helps prevent homelessness before it actually happens. [1:32:39] It keeps families housed, reduces strain on public systems, and is far less costly, even responding after someone loses their own. [1:32:46] These programs reflect the values of our region, fairness, stability, and dignity, and I think you all further continue to support. [1:32:52] Thank you. [1:32:53] Thank you. [1:32:56] Good morning, everyone. [1:32:57] My name is Arohan Hariharan. [1:32:58] I'm a recent graduate of UC San Diego, and I am one of the housing justice directors of our time to act. [1:33:06] I'm here today to emphasize the need of support for community from the local government. [1:33:12] And, you know, ask that the local government does what it can to help them with their most basic needs. [1:33:20] I also want to help of the asks of the community budget alliance and the partnership for the advancement of new Americans. [1:33:27] And, most importantly, emphasize increased support for the department of youth development. [1:33:35] In these times, I think it is most important that Sandagans can depend on their local government, [1:33:42] and that you can continue to support them and increase support for them as much as possible. Thank you so much. [1:33:50] Thank you. [1:33:51] Thank you. [1:33:52] The next speaker is coming forward on by three additional speakers. [1:33:54] Casey Shirk. [1:33:55] Karina Zavala. [1:33:57] C.K. Kalderon Vargas. [1:33:58] I've caught your name. [1:33:59] Please come forward. [1:34:00] Good morning. [1:34:01] My name is Hussus Marding Gallagos Monios. [1:34:03] I'm a community organizing coordinator at the Chicano Federation, and the member of the community budget alliance. [1:34:08] And, representation of the alliance. [1:34:10] I'm here to highlight the messages our community has already mentioned. [1:34:14] We need a budget that prioritizes youth, immigrant families, tenant protections, and environmental justice. [1:34:20] We need a San Diego that truly protects our loved ones, and I please ask you to prioritize our community members. [1:34:26] Funded tenant protections for immigrant families, fund ILDP, and start the process for the department of youth development. [1:34:33] As youth, youth are not only the future, we are the present. [1:34:38] And if we want to start advocating for our society, we need to start prioritizing our youth. [1:34:43] Gracias. [1:34:44] Thank you. [1:34:47] Thank you. [1:34:49] Hello. [1:34:50] My name is Karina Zavala. [1:34:51] I am 18 years old, and I work. [1:34:54] I'm a part of my city-can, and I encourage the incarceration. [1:34:58] And I'm here to give my call me on why you guys should support the YD. [1:35:05] Like I said before, I have been formerly incarcerated, and I was a dual status youth. [1:35:13] And I'm here today to say that the YD will be so helpful for our youth because no kids should be locked down. [1:35:23] And no kids should be in a facility. [1:35:26] Another thing, too, is that this will help us through so much, not just one place. [1:35:32] And then the county is a legal, but all over the county is a legal, because we all know that our youth do need help. [1:35:39] And we all know that we can't do this all by ourselves, and we need this to happen. [1:35:44] Thank you very much for this time. [1:35:47] Thank you. [1:35:49] Thank you. [1:35:50] We'll go ahead and call three additional speakers. [1:35:52] Marco Guajardo, Alejandro Martinez, Fernando Flores. [1:35:58] Hello, good morning. [1:36:00] My name is Casey. [1:36:01] I am a Human Services Specialist, and I have been for two years, and I am a proud CIU-221 member. [1:36:06] Part of my job is providing the community care through government programs such as CalFresh and a Metacowl. [1:36:12] For many of my clients receiving these benefits is the difference between staying housed and living on the streets. [1:36:18] I would like to iterate that to human services, specialist, self-sufficiency services, HHSA, we are public safety too. [1:36:26] HR1 has had a pretty big impact across the board for these programs, from evaluating for time restrictions on CalFresh. [1:36:33] And evaluating the elderly and disabled property for Metacowl, our process for providing these necessary structures of care timely has taken a hit. [1:36:41] We acknowledge the county for trying to mitigate these impacts, and we want to stress the importance of adequate funding for human services specialists and OA positions. [1:36:49] I would like to bring up that my facility, the National City Family Resource Center, we are currently down 12 positions, 12 HHSS positions. [1:36:58] We are having issues with... [1:37:00] Thank you. [1:37:04] Next speaker. [1:37:07] Good morning, Board, or afternoon, or still morning. [1:37:10] My name is Maruko Wachardo, resident of District 4. [1:37:14] I'm an intern with Students for Economic Justice at the Center on Policy and Initiatives. [1:37:18] I'm here to urge the Board to unanimously adopt the revised budget, specifically the inclusion of a $250,000 feasibility study, [1:37:26] to explore the creation of the department for youth development as laid out in an item A. [1:37:32] For us, youth development is public safety. [1:37:36] Healthy communities are rooted in young people feeling safe and having much more than their basic needs met. [1:37:42] When young people's futures are protected, public safety is fortified and crime rates go down. [1:37:48] Currently San Diego's juvenile justice system is punitive and causes real harm. [1:37:54] Youth outcomes are worse in the through our current approach, and our youth deserve a care first model, [1:38:00] where jail and incarceration are the absolute last forms of mediation. [1:38:06] It's vital to recognize that San Diego is currently engaged in the committee. [1:38:10] Thank you. [1:38:12] Thank you. [1:38:14] Good morning. [1:38:16] Good morning, my name is Fernanda Flores. [1:38:17] I'm the political director with IOTC, the International Alliance of the Atrical Station Police Local 122. [1:38:23] I am here to speak on behalf of IOTC 122, the San Diego Entertainment Union Coalition, [1:38:29] and over 20 organizations that have endorsed the film initiative. [1:38:33] To name a few, it's business for goods and evil arts matters. [1:38:37] The East County Chamber of Commerce, San Diego Tourism Authority. [1:38:41] We want to highlight the allocation of establishing a film office. [1:38:48] And while this is not the end merely the beginning, we want to think the leadership and the vision from this board. [1:38:54] To invest in San Diego's during my time, I was able to witness behind this scene film production. [1:39:00] And we have so much talent here. [1:39:02] San Diego's already, they are hungry to create quality life-long careers. [1:39:06] Businesses are ready to produce and service. [1:39:10] Everything that it takes around film. [1:39:12] So thank you so much for your leadership and we look forward to working with you. [1:39:16] For the next steps. [1:39:18] Thank you. [1:39:19] Thank you. [1:39:20] Like to call through additional speakers. [1:39:22] Chloe Medina. [1:39:24] Vanessa Gonzalez. [1:39:25] And Chris Oforo Gomez. [1:39:28] Thank you. [1:39:29] Good morning Board of Survisors. [1:39:31] My name is Alejandra. [1:39:32] I'm with the mid city candidate. [1:39:33] You just as a momentum team and CBA. [1:39:35] I first and foremost want to thank Survisor Palo Maguirre. [1:39:39] Survisor Monica Montgomery Step. [1:39:42] Survisor Tara Loss and Remer and Survisor Joel Desmond for their support on this $250,000 [1:39:47] feasibility study for Department of Youth Development. [1:39:50] One of our youth was not able to make it here on time today. [1:39:53] So she wasn't able to speak. [1:39:54] So I'm sharing her statement really quickly. [1:39:56] Good morning Board of Survisors. [1:39:57] I'm Shamya. [1:39:58] Also known as Shimi. [1:39:59] And I'm part of district four. [1:40:01] The reason I myself was pushing so hard for this is because I was part of the system. [1:40:04] I was affected by it. [1:40:05] I feel as if sending us straight into the cell doesn't solve what is wrong with this mentally. [1:40:09] It creates a cycle of trauma that gets passed down to the next person. [1:40:12] Funding us all. [1:40:13] Funding us will help with not only trauma but our communities that we are sent back to. [1:40:18] The trauma that is caused inside we take it out but everyone has different ways of showing it. [1:40:22] Working with lived experience and people that are like me actually helps more than people who aren't lived experience. [1:40:26] We haven't been through what I've been through. [1:40:28] We hope. [1:40:29] Sorry. [1:40:30] Thank you. [1:40:34] Thank you. [1:40:35] Next speaker. [1:40:39] Good morning. [1:40:41] My name is Yika Karumbara. [1:40:43] My pronouns are A. Yes. [1:40:45] I'm the director of Latina Services from the San Diego LGBT Community Center. [1:40:50] And I'm here for asking for help for you to support the final visit and funding of the county immigrant legal defense program. [1:41:01] We have trans clients that have lived in San Diego for 20 years that were detained and the ILDP helped them get back to [1:41:08] their houses to their homes to their community. [1:41:12] The ILDP is helping so much. [1:41:15] Please fully fund it. [1:41:17] Thank you. [1:41:21] Thank you. [1:41:22] Next speaker. [1:41:25] Good morning. [1:41:26] Supervisors. [1:41:27] My name is Chloe Medina and I have been an educator for over 20 years. [1:41:31] I currently live in District 2 and work in District 5. [1:41:34] And I'm here to demonstrate my support for the revised budget, specifically the investment of $250,000 to conduct a feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development. [1:41:45] I began my career in education with the goal of supporting system impacted youth and their families and that continues to be my priority. [1:41:52] The future overall health safety and well-being of our communities will be determined by how well our children are taking care of today. [1:41:59] What has been confirmed for me do many experiences and with the studies and data also back up is that the current system does not work. [1:42:08] In fact, it perpetuates harm. [1:42:10] Young folks are more responsive and more capable of growing into their full potential when they are met with 11 support rather than threats and harsh consequences. [1:42:18] That is why we need to invest in care for community-led approaches. [1:42:22] We're culturally relevant, trauma-informed services are accessible to all. [1:42:26] Thank you. [1:42:30] Next speaker, please. [1:42:32] Good morning Board of Supervisors. My name is Vanessa as a Seneca Gonzalez and I live in District 5. [1:42:38] We need to allocate the $250,000 for a feasibility study to further creation of Department of Youth Development. [1:42:45] As someone who works directly with youth and residential treatment, supporting youth with significant mental health and behavioral health challenges, [1:42:51] I have seen how quickly a young person can be labeled as a problem when they really need to support safety and positive youth development and experiences. [1:42:59] Many of the young people are worked with have experienced trauma and stability and system involvement with punitive responses that often deepen those challenges rather than address them at the root cause. [1:43:09] San Diego's juvenile justice system is causing harm and worsens outcomes for many youth. [1:43:15] Young people deserve a care first model that prioritizes healing, mental health services, community support and opportunities for growth. [1:43:22] Jowsing incarceration should be the last form of intervention, not the foundation of our response. [1:43:27] Investing in Youth Development is investing in public safety. [1:43:30] Thank you to supervisors, Monica Montgomery Step and Paloma Aguilar for their leadership and commitment. [1:43:35] Thank you. [1:43:36] Thank you. [1:43:37] Thank you. [1:43:39] Good morning, supervisors. [1:43:42] My name is Christopher Aguamas. [1:43:43] I'm a district one resident and an organizer with a San Diego and Imperial County's labor council. [1:43:47] We represent over 130 unions and 200,000 working people across these counties. [1:43:51] Today I'm speaking on behalf of many of these members that have both directly and indirectly experienced the cruelty of the federal administration's immigration enforcement. [1:43:59] And asking that you fully fund legal defense, the immigrant legal defense program. [1:44:03] This violence is falling on the backs of hardworking people who are simply trying to survive and make ends meet. [1:44:09] And we believe that in this critical moment, it is incumbent upon local government to do everything in its power to protect its constituents. [1:44:16] This funding, along with other items in the package that deal with things like eviction diversion, nutrition access and the youth feasibility study are avenues that you just that. [1:44:25] So we urge your support. [1:44:26] Thank you. [1:44:28] Thank you. [1:44:29] I'll call three additional speakers. [1:44:30] How am I, are you, Sufi? [1:44:31] Caitlin Radigan and Lucky Aden. [1:44:33] At the recent one that I go in with the Lion San Diego members of the San Diego immigrant rights consortium in the community budget alliance. [1:44:43] We thank the CAO and supervisors for fully funding the immigrant legal defense program to keep it operational. [1:44:50] This is a critical due process investment, the Reflex San Diego County's commitment to fairness, dignity and justice. [1:44:56] As immigration enforcement increases across our region, families are now. [1:45:00] We are advocating one of those complex legal systems, often alone and in detention. Just today the Supreme Court issued a couple of decisions that are going to make things even harder, and increase enforcement. [1:45:13] The ILDP ensures that people have access to legal representation when they need it most. It means keeping families together protecting due process and strengthening the conditions for immigrant communities to thrive. [1:45:25] also ask you to continue investing in prevention over punishment, including three million dollars [1:45:31] in eviction diversion program to help keep families housed. [1:45:35] Please invest in programs that protect human rights, while ensuring accountability [1:45:38] and transparency. [1:45:39] Thank you. [1:45:40] Next speaker, please. [1:45:41] Good morning. [1:45:42] My name is Lucky Aiden with Hannah and the Community Budget Alliance and I'm a resident of [1:45:50] District 4. [1:45:51] I'm here in support of funding for the Immigration Legal Fund Program and the Global [1:45:55] Village. [1:45:56] Supporting the Global Village project will help bring life to a vision that already exists [1:46:00] beyond housing. [1:46:01] It is helping create a community where families can put down roots, build economic opportunities [1:46:06] and thrive. [1:46:07] The Global Village will provide over 444 largely affordable homes and create pathways for small [1:46:14] business owners through our Global Village. [1:46:16] It doesn't need it. [1:46:17] It doesn't need a place where people can live, work, and thrive and connect together. [1:46:23] With your support, you are going to be expanding on the impact and creating a long lasting [1:46:28] asset for generations to come. [1:46:30] Thank you. [1:46:31] Thank you. [1:46:32] Next speaker, please. [1:46:33] Good morning, chair and supervisors. [1:46:39] My name is Caitlin Radigan. [1:46:40] I'm a resident of District 2 and I currently serve as the Statewide Policy Manager for California [1:46:46] Youth Connection. [1:46:47] I'm here today in support of the revised budget that includes the $250,000 feasibility [1:46:54] study for the establishment of a department of youth development. [1:46:58] I think that this is more than a study. [1:47:00] It's really an opportunity for us to intentionally invest in our young people. [1:47:06] We've seen this model work well in Los Angeles and our youth are so incredibly resilient [1:47:12] and full of potential. [1:47:15] There are also navigating poverty, housing instability, trafficking, violence and so [1:47:21] many other barriers and no young person should really have to come overcome all of that alone. [1:47:27] A department of youth development would create a coordinated approach to investing in youth, [1:47:32] rather than expecting different agencies and system providers working in silos. [1:47:38] Thank you so much. [1:47:39] Thank you. [1:47:40] Thank you. [1:47:41] I'd like to invite three additional speakers, Sarah Gonzalez, Rachel Luzano Castro, and [1:47:46] Forty-Nata Pena. [1:47:50] Good morning. [1:47:51] Supervisors. [1:47:52] My name is Ian Saruelo. [1:47:53] I am with the Asia Pacific American Liberal Alliance and also the chair of the San Diego immigrant [1:47:59] rights consortium. [1:48:00] First, I would like to thank the board for supporting the funding of the Immigrant Legal Defense [1:48:05] Program. [1:48:06] I am a practicing immigration attorney. [1:48:09] And I defend many of our community members from deportation every day, I interact with [1:48:15] San Diego residents, immigrant working class families, who are suffering from the cruel [1:48:20] mass deportation policy of this federal government for over a year now. [1:48:25] The Trump administration has violently separated families, kidnapped community members, surveilled [1:48:31] and racially profiled black and brown communities. [1:48:34] At the night, you process and violated human rights of our communities. [1:48:38] Dial, the P has provided life-changing legal support to hundreds of San Diego families, caught [1:48:43] in this new main policies, lastly, I implore the board to invest more in our youth, our workers [1:48:48] or immigrant and refugee communities. [1:48:50] Thank you so much. [1:48:51] Thank you. [1:48:52] Hello. [1:48:53] Good morning. [1:48:54] Board of Supervisors. [1:48:55] My name is Sarah Gonzalez. [1:49:00] I am a sociologist and education. [1:49:04] I live in district one by my service schools and youth from San East, you draw all the [1:49:09] way to ocean side. [1:49:11] So today, I am presenting myself as the professional that I am to let you know that I didn't [1:49:17] get here on my own. [1:49:18] I was sort of several interventions in the South Bay that allowed me to be able to get into higher [1:49:23] education. [1:49:24] So therefore, I wouldn't be here if it wouldn't be for those interventions in the past. [1:49:30] And nowadays, we need more of those interventions for our youth. [1:49:33] So therefore, I want to express my support for the revised budget on item eight, specifically [1:49:41] for the investment of the $250 study, a feasibility study for the DYD. [1:49:48] So research shows that youths mentorship reduces risk of it is in rates and creates pathways [1:49:53] for wellness, especially for youth that has been impacted by the system. [1:49:59] Thank you. [1:50:00] I'd like to call the final two speakers, and Sermio Estrada, and Moohamed. [1:50:06] Good morning. [1:50:07] Good morning. [1:50:08] Good morning. [1:50:09] My name is Hortonada-Penya. [1:50:10] Can you pull that microphone down a little bit? [1:50:12] Thank you. [1:50:13] I'm sorry. [1:50:14] I'm short. [1:50:15] Okay. [1:50:16] My name is Hortonada-Penya, and I live in district five, and I say SEI, you local 21, I'm union member. [1:50:24] I have worked for the county of San Diego for eight years, and I work in the tax collection [1:50:29] department. [1:50:30] As a worker in the Treasury Tax Collector Department, we have concerns regarding staffing challenges [1:50:36] and work loads because it's efficient staffing is important for effective public service. [1:50:42] One example, there is one person's assigned to deliver mail to the department on many occasions. [1:50:48] This person gets pulled to go answer phones on the customer service line, and that prevents them [1:50:54] from delivering the mail to us on time. [1:50:56] And a lot of these calls that their answering as taxpayers obviously upset that the payments [1:51:02] haven't been processed. [1:51:04] We support this proposed budget, which includes five additional positions. [1:51:08] Thank you for investing in the staffing needed to support workers and serve our community effectively. [1:51:12] Our community's deserve safety, dignity, and opportunity to thrive, please continue to invest [1:51:18] these services. [1:51:19] Thank you. [1:51:20] Thank you. [1:51:21] Thank you. [1:51:22] Next speaker, please. [1:51:24] Good morning. [1:51:26] My name is Rachel Azano Castro. [1:51:28] I am a resident of District 4, although me and my family have lived in all five districts in San [1:51:32] Diego. [1:51:33] I am a business owner and employee, a homeowner, an entrepreneur, an activist, been proud to call [1:51:38] San Diego homes since 2008. [1:51:41] My family's been in this country for generations. [1:51:43] I stand with refugees and immigrants. [1:51:45] I would like to thank the leadership. [1:51:47] I'm also with Panna and the community budget alliance and many other coalitions. [1:51:51] I'm here to speak in favor of this budget and to thank the Board of Supervisors for investing [1:51:55] in quality of life for all San Diego's. [1:51:58] I mean all when this county invests wisely, which I believe it is, trying to do, it lifts up [1:52:03] long-time residents and newcomers alike. [1:52:05] That's the San Diego I believe in. [1:52:06] That's the San Diego I want to live in, and that's the leadership I'm grateful to see from [1:52:09] this board. [1:52:10] I urge you to continue to support, continue supporting the immigrant defense fund and the [1:52:15] eviction diversion program, which helps keep families safely housed, protects vulnerable [1:52:20] residents, and strengthens our communities. [1:52:22] These are not just programs, these are lifelines, and when we're working hard, we can work [1:52:27] together. [1:52:28] Thank you. [1:52:29] Thank you. [1:52:31] Good afternoon. [1:52:32] I'm sorry to make you a start up with the San Diego Building and Construction Trains Council. [1:52:39] We have members across this county. [1:52:40] I'm here to be in solidarity with CBA, with SCIU local 2-2-1 with everybody here that is [1:52:48] asking you to meet what is clearly barbarism from the Trump administration and his Republican [1:52:54] enablers and Congress through things like massive tax cuts with HR1, to meet that head-on with [1:53:00] good governments and with moral clarity, and that's what this budget is. [1:53:03] This is an opportunity to flip the script for local governments about what is public safety. [1:53:08] It's investing in food security, it's investing in homes for San Diego. [1:53:12] It's investing in an immigration defense fund that keeps San Diego against with their families. [1:53:17] And the government is trying to actually rip them apart. [1:53:20] These things have consequences for our communities, and this budget that you all, we've [1:53:24] voted on is the first step and then answering that head-on, and please make sure this goes [1:53:29] forward. [1:53:30] Thank you. [1:53:31] Next speaker, please. [1:53:36] Good morning. [1:53:37] My name is Muhammad Omar. [1:53:38] I'm with the partnership of the Advancement of New Americans, and I'm also a district resident of [1:53:43] District 4. [1:53:44] I'm here today to express my strong support for continued funding of the Global Village, [1:53:50] the eviction division program, and the immigrant legal defense fund. [1:53:54] The Global Village is more than an affordable housing development. [1:53:56] It is a long-term investment in housing stability, economic opportunity, and community resilience [1:54:02] with over 144, deeply affordable homes, culture, and civic spaces, and a trusted community [1:54:09] hub. [1:54:10] It was served families for generations to come. [1:54:13] At the same time, the eviction division program helps, helps keep families safely housed [1:54:17] and bring in homelessness before it begins. [1:54:20] While the immigrant legal defense fund is sure that vulnerable residents have access to [1:54:24] legal representation and due process, together this investment strength and housing stability [1:54:30] public safety, emergency preparedness, and economic opportunity for all syndicates, I respectfully [1:54:36] urge you to continue supporting this critical opportunity. [1:54:39] Good morning, Board. [1:54:46] Good morning, Board. [1:54:47] I'm proud to be part of a community that has shown up a time and time again to engage in this [1:54:55] budget, and I look forward to doing it again. [1:54:58] Working class communities, communities of color, and young people help shape this budget, and [1:55:02] I'd like to acknowledge the Board and CAO team that listened when San Diego spoke clearly about [1:55:06] what they need to thrive. [1:55:08] We urge you to approve the revised recommended budget, but our work is far from done. [1:55:12] The county has taken important steps forward in promoting workers' rights and fighting wage [1:55:16] theft. [1:55:17] Given the scale of wage theft and how to impact San Diego's ability to pay for rent, food, and other [1:55:22] living expenses, when your continued leadership and partnership to strengthen also and make [1:55:26] our county one where all working families can thrive. [1:55:30] Over $2 billion for criminalization, prop36, and systems that harm our youth do not help us achieve [1:55:36] that vision. [1:55:37] We must invest in real safety, which comes from stability, opportunity, and dignity. [1:55:41] Thank you. [1:55:42] Thank you. [1:55:44] Next speaker, please, Board. [1:55:50] All right. [1:55:52] Good morning. [1:55:53] My name is Aaron Huy. [1:55:54] I'm president and co-founder of Carpidium Outreach. [1:55:57] We at youth mentoring and organization, in North County that he's social and emotional learning, [1:56:01] do we store the practice? [1:56:02] I'm part of District 5. [1:56:04] I stand here today, not just as a community member, but as someone who is incarcerated, [1:56:08] that's 16 years old, and spent the next 27 and a half years inside the system we're talking [1:56:12] about. [1:56:13] I speak for lived experience from the research when I say our youth deserve better. [1:56:17] San Diego's juvenile justice system is still rooted in punishment, and punishment has never healed [1:56:21] a young person. [1:56:22] It didn't heal me, but changed my life with education and mentorship and accountability and people [1:56:26] who believed I was more than my worst moment. [1:56:28] That's what the Department of Youth Development represents. [1:56:31] I care for a model that actually works. [1:56:33] Organizations like Carpidium Outreach, Community Wrap Around, Missity Can, show what's possible. [1:56:42] We invest in youth, instead of incarcerated. [1:56:44] We work directly with the young people across North County. [1:56:47] Helping nobody most know until it's just leadership and community connection. [1:56:50] The things that truly prevent harm. [1:56:52] So thank you. [1:56:53] Thank you. [1:56:55] I'd like to invite for Ramah Abdi, and then do a final call for the speakers I previously called. [1:57:01] Vanessa Melendrez. [1:57:05] And how am I ready, Sophie? [1:57:07] I've got your name, please come forward. [1:57:10] Good morning. [1:57:11] My name is Rahma Abdi. [1:57:13] I'm the Director of Organizing with the Pana and also a member of CBA. [1:57:17] Thank you for supporting global bill�. [1:57:20] And it's in the angle. [1:57:21] Your support means a lot to refugee and immigrant families like mine. [1:57:25] Today you're not just helping build a project. [1:57:28] You're helping build a legacy. [1:57:30] Many years from now, families may not remember every meeting or vote. [1:57:35] But they will remember the leaders who believe in them. [1:57:38] They will remember that your investment in place is where family and family can find support and information for opportunity. [1:57:46] The global village will be there. [1:57:48] It will be that buildings. [1:57:50] It will be a place of hope. [1:57:51] It will be a place where families can learn and connect and grow. [1:57:55] A place where every people can get information in their language. [1:57:59] They understand. [1:58:00] They place where no one feels left behind. [1:58:02] It means our family will be better prepared during emergency. [1:58:06] Your investment today will help families for many years to come. [1:58:10] It's important. [1:58:11] It's important. [1:58:12] Thank you. [1:58:13] Thank you. [1:58:14] Thank you. [1:58:15] Thank you. [1:58:16] You're a big one. [1:58:17] I don't list up. [1:58:18] Thank you. [1:58:20] I'll speak to you. [1:58:22] All right. [1:58:23] Hello, my name is Hamira. [1:58:25] You're a partnership for the advancement of New Americans, which is a member of the Community Budget Alliance. [1:58:32] CBA. [1:58:33] I'm here to urge you all to approve this budget. [1:58:37] It will provide much-needed funding to so many projects, including the Immigration Leaders [1:58:43] Defense Project. [1:58:44] And I particularly want to express my appreciation to Supervisor Monica Montgomery's staff, [1:58:52] Lawson Reumer, and a guide for your support of the Global Village Project, which will benefit the entire [1:59:00] general region for generations to come. [1:59:04] This project will not only build much-needed, deeply affordable homes. [1:59:08] It will create long-term investment in historically under-served communities. [1:59:13] While this project is in the choice, create quarter in the mid-city region, it will serve the entire county. [1:59:20] There is a huge need for trusted culturally appropriate spaces, and this has done emergency relief. [1:59:26] So thank you so much. [1:59:28] We're now here from the individuals that request to speak by phone. [1:59:32] Again, when it is your turn to speak, you will be unmuted, and you will hear a recording that will tell you to begin your comments. [1:59:37] We will start with our first caller. [1:59:40] All of those 25 notes that you want to spend $9 million on permanent road division this year, [1:59:55] but then they $2 million next after school year. [1:59:59] You want to... [2:00:00] Infleds are now coming any time of years of this, doesn't make sense. [2:00:04] Just to fix these yourselves, instead of creating paradises of the homelanders, it's don't know about, [2:00:11] and then using them like your personal piggy bank. Many of the residents are lowering [2:00:17] them, and this makes mockery of your commitment to helping lowering people, and keeps them down [2:00:23] and harnessed rooms open. After all this, the revised budget does not take into account [2:00:29] the control impact provided to the governor's may revise and the Fed budget, protecting our [2:00:35] own, I guess. And our economy is not going up and down. [2:00:41] You're from the next call, sir. [2:00:53] I'm going to follow here. It's amazing how, you know, it's the ill-informed public [2:01:02] banking, the out-of-touch. Most disturbing things that I've heard in this meeting is from the youth [2:01:08] saying, we can't do it all by ourselves. Another saying, we believe it is incumbent for our local [2:01:14] government to do everything in its power to protect its constituents. Mission accomplished, [2:01:21] government has successfully brainwashed and programmed the people into fully believing that they can't [2:01:27] do it without it. The same system that creates the problem is looked up to and sought out [2:01:35] or helped and resolutions. Not only sick, but it's beyond abusive. And most, [2:01:42] having to clue, unfortunately, that this board is responsible for the majority of, if not all, [2:01:47] our county budget issues. The presentation mentioned stewardship, you are delusional board, [2:01:53] if you believe you are, if you were more. Good morning, my name is Becky Rapp and as you adopt [2:02:09] this $9 billion budget, I urge you to ensure that marijuana-related expenditures received the same [2:02:16] level of scrutiny and accountability as any other county program. Over the past several years, [2:02:23] significant staff time and public resources have been devoted to marijuana policy regulation and [2:02:29] social equity planning. Packed fairs deserve a clear accounting of how much money has been spent. [2:02:37] At the same time, I encourage the county to invest more in prevention. If we're serious about supporting [2:02:42] youth health and well-being, marijuana prevention education should be incorporated into the [2:02:47] department of youth development. Youth young people today are facing increasingly potent marijuana products, [2:02:56] rising rates of mental health challenges and exposure to messages that normalize drug youth. [2:03:02] Prevention is far less costly than treatment, emergency response or addresses. [2:03:13] Good morning, my name is Ibrahim Nuru. I'm a business owner and I say a word this. I would like [2:03:23] to talk in favor of supporting that budget approval. I just want to give a testimony. [2:03:31] When we are in trouble with my landlord, I have to go to Pana for a legal support and they find [2:03:40] as a person who could do pro bono because we can't afford it. This is a clear way of supporting [2:03:48] immigrant business owners. I also advise in American business system by giving them what's missing [2:03:55] on them. I support this budget approval because it means a small support so that we could exceed [2:04:04] an American economy so that would be accessible for business owners. I think our community [2:04:10] to grow up, flourish in American system. Thank you so much. Thank you. [2:04:19] Well, here from the next color. [2:04:21] Hey, and geo-profit here is it's truth. Overpaid, Monica and many have insisted that there's [2:04:34] no deficit with an over-inflated budget of $9.1 billion, yet they've rated our reserves and [2:04:39] funneled money to their private campaign coffers. We need less staff and salaries and more to [2:04:44] IT and fire. The thickest long neglected VISTA gels only getting a measly $3 million, while union [2:04:49] campaign funders say you got $14.4 million of our tax dollars. You sued the HR for you allowed [2:04:55] VISTA to deteriorate and inmates to suffer in affordable conditions with child abuse allegations [2:05:00] at the East Mason Facility and Polinsky hypocrites. Unlike the ability to structure trade [2:05:05] accounts of lies, real public safety and fire mitigation, more firefighting helicopters, [2:05:10] brush management, and better fire station conditions. Instead of wasting our tax hurts, [2:05:14] or suing fire truck companies, give out grants to cities to improve conditions for firefighters. [2:05:19] And note a many sewage pipe extensions with benefit Mexico and note a giving illegal aliens [2:05:23] $12 million of our budget to protect criminals like the Skumbag and killed eight-year-old [2:05:28] Aria, Cynthia Cruz, and Julian. How about the 40-year-old? [2:05:31] Do you get the next caller? [2:05:42] Actor, I say on the legal thing, only give legal money to the legal immigrants that need lawyers. [2:05:50] Do not give any money to the, is that illegal immigrants? And so all the legal [2:05:58] immigrants get their fees. And then on the mayor a lot of things, let's keep it amongst the dark people, [2:06:05] less than we lose their souls, that's a good one. And the village thing, the immigrant village, [2:06:11] makes you get a lot of cameras and a lot of license plates readers because the orange man is coming [2:06:18] with eyes. And they also offer free health care now in Mexico. So if you need health care, go to the [2:06:26] Mexico, it's free. And then also you get a thousand dollars if you sell support. So don't say if we're not [2:06:32] trying to help you guys, you get out of here, thousand dollars to sell support. And you can take your blue line [2:06:39] for free, they won't give you a ticket if they're heading south on the blue line. Tell me you want to. [2:06:45] Thank you. You're from the next caller. [2:06:54] Pam, wow, it is sticking to watch his activists begging for money to perpetuate chaos. Many of the public [2:07:00] speakers today must not have access to the use in this county. This part has illusions they can [2:07:05] manage the multi-pointed dollar budget even with extended terms. Immigrants, illegal, [2:07:10] otherwise, are not new Americans. And should not be prioritized over American citizens in need. [2:07:15] No money to the anti-American anti-symbolation global village. Consider two Supreme Court wins today. [2:07:22] Migrants turn away at the border before entering the US are not entitled to apply for a slide-up. [2:07:27] And no judicial relief postponing the relocation of temporary protective status of Haitians and [2:07:32] Syrian nationals. So therefore, no money for the illegal immigrant defense son. [2:07:37] Criminal's must be deported, not called. Sorry, I'm walking them out of breath. No [2:07:42] funding of special privileges to individual based under sexual behavior and preferences. [2:07:47] But wrong enforcement from court services above all else, top-tellogene Americans, citizens, [2:07:53] taxpayer. [2:07:57] Thank you, we're here from the next caller. [2:07:59] Hello, my name is Cost Simpson. I'm 20-year-old. I'm currently a federal right now, but I did [2:08:11] serve five-and-a-half years in East Mesa and in DJJ. I'm currently a student at Fresno State. [2:08:17] I lost my own business. I'm a graduate of allows incarcerated. And all these things are possible [2:08:22] because of the support that I did receive. But this support was not given to me by the systems in place [2:08:28] and by the structures that have been built within these systems. Organizations like the day was [2:08:33] heart foundation, home girls look at our son. And SBCF South Bay Community Services. [2:08:39] And even people like that allow me to get to the place where I'm at now. And with that, with this funding [2:08:43] with this support, all the youth who have been in the system as well, can get the same kind of support. [2:08:50] So I really appreciate all of you guys for coming on here. But I've really lived experience, I've [2:08:54] had the problems, I have the, I'll put it around. And everyone is just essentially here to the right thing. [2:09:00] There's no native or ulterior motives. There's no monetary gain from this. It's generally just a support [2:09:06] and the genuine desire to build people up in our communities. So thank you. [2:09:25] Blair, Beekman. Hi, Blair Beekman. I do not attend enough for the supplies and meetings. [2:09:35] I wish I did this a public, a person from the public. I've been living in San Diego for over four years. [2:09:40] Now, there has been many issues in dealing with a new jail in Santa Clara County where it comes from [2:09:49] San Jose area. We're working on that a lot. Nice dialogue today asking that if you build a [2:09:54] jail, you have to be considering all the other social programs we can be doing in this place. That has to be [2:10:00] first and foremost. And with that, there's been so many deaths that are county jail here in San Diego, [2:10:07] the same as in Santa Clara County. Can you guys work together to solve this deaf issue and learn to [2:10:12] limit the amount of deaths before anything you build in the future? And good luck on budget [2:10:18] practices and working towards social equity first and then austerity. We're doing, we're learning [2:10:24] good lessons in San Diego City. Good luck in your efforts. Thank you. Thank you. Chair Larson Rimmer, [2:10:30] that concludes public comment on this item. Okay, thank you very much. I just want to take a moment to [2:10:39] think all of our public commenters and our speakers. Thank you for your participation today. But [2:10:45] really, thank you for your participation in this entire budget process. We've really been moving over the [2:10:51] last number of years to try to create a more inclusive budgeting process that creates avenues for input [2:10:59] and participation and collaboration on shaping our county's budget. Much earlier in the process, [2:11:04] so that hopefully by the time we get to this point that the budget can reflect the major needs [2:11:10] and priorities of our community. Today, we are voting on a balanced budget. And I think it's a pretty [2:11:19] extraordinary budget. It protects the core services that Sandigons count on public safety, fire, emergency [2:11:27] response, behavioral health health care, food assistance, homeless services, veteran services, [2:11:33] parks, libraries, arts, roads, and the day-to-day work of our county government. This is a [2:11:40] responsible budget. It's a balanced budget. I think it's a visionary budget and it is a budget built [2:11:45] for the moment that we are in. Because this is not a normal year. The Trump administration has [2:11:52] been pushing costs and paperwork on economies across America, including Sandiego County, [2:11:58] and this budget prepares us to respond. We also continue to face a difficult environment of [2:12:05] increasing costs, increasing crisis of rising gas prices, affordability, rising housing costs. [2:12:12] And this budget meets that moment. The budget also protects public safety. Public safety means [2:12:19] firefighters with the staffing and the helicopters that they need when a wild fire breaks out. [2:12:26] We're adding fire suppression positions, helicopters and other safety equipment. [2:12:32] We have added 187 law enforcement and fire positions since joining the board. [2:12:40] This budget also protects due process. Because I believe we should live in a country where the [2:12:47] government cannot pull you off the street, lock you up, away from your family, and force you [2:12:52] to face deportation alone, simply because you cannot afford an attorney. That is the rule of law. [2:12:59] That is the constitution and defending the constitution is public safety. This budget also cuts waste [2:13:07] and inefficiencies and makes our government work better. We are modernizing outdated phone systems, [2:13:13] getting rid of fax machines, reducing leasing costs, and doing so many other small adjustments [2:13:21] so that our county can continue working in big ways. I'd like to thank our county staff or CIO, [2:13:27] Ebony Shelton and every department that worked with us on this budget. It has not been an easy year, [2:13:34] but we are stronger because of this hard work. But I also would like to be honest that we are not out of the [2:13:40] woods. This budget gets us through this year and sets us on a good path for the next few years. [2:13:47] But coming years could be even harder. We are facing hundreds of millions of dollars in additional costs [2:13:55] and cuts depending on what happens in both Washington and Sacramento. So this vote is incredibly [2:14:02] important. It is extraordinarily important, but it is not the end of our work. It is the beginning [2:14:07] of the next phase. We will need to keep working, keep fighting, keep talking, and keep finding solutions [2:14:13] for our community. So I'm proud to support this budget. It is balanced. It's responsible. It invests [2:14:20] in all the key programs that I think are so essential to protecting the most vulnerable members of our [2:14:25] community and fighting for working families. But we are not done with this work. So I would like to begin our [2:14:33] conversation discussion at the board by making a motion to number one. Approve this year is [2:14:39] change letter, which is recommendation number one. Number two, approve the remaining staff recommendations [2:14:46] listed in the item as recommendations three through five. [2:15:00] In item 8, and recommendations 1, and 3 in item 9, as well as all the staff recommendations in the fire protection district, like control district, and home supportive services, public authority, redevelopment, successor, agency, and the sanitation district agendas. [2:15:17] So again, that's a motion to approve the C.S. Change letter, which is recommendation 1, approve the remaining staff recommendations listed as recommendation 3 through 5 and 9 to 8, and recommendation 1 and 3 and 9 to 9. [2:15:29] And all the staff recommendations in fire protection district, flood control district, in home support services, public authority, redevelopment, successor, agency, and sanitation district agenda. [2:15:40] With that, I will turn the chair over to the vice chair. [2:15:43] Excuse me, turn the floor over to the vice chair. [2:15:46] Thank you so much, chair, last one, I want to start by thanking our chief administrative officer of any shelter in the system CAL and chief financial officer, Joan Bracky. [2:15:57] And the entire county team for their extraordinary tremendous work in developing the revised recommended operational plan for the next two fiscal years. [2:16:08] Also, I want to thank the county comms department, specifically Tammy Glenn and Natalia Hintrell for welcoming my team at the budget pop-up event at the Southeastern Liberal Center and the community budget open house at the county operations center. [2:16:23] Meeting full community engagement is essential to shaping a budget that reflects the diverse needs of our county. [2:16:29] And my staff have valuable conversations at both events, conversations that are vital to producing the budget before us today. [2:16:38] An important point the revised recommended budget makes clear is that it does not account for potential impacts from state or federal budget changes and is important that we acknowledge that uncertainty directly. [2:16:50] The federal government's decision to prioritize tax cuts for the wealthy, resulting in significant reductions to healthcare access and food assistance has put more than 314,000 of our county's medical members and 93,500 calfresh recipients at risk of losing the support they rely on. [2:17:12] HR1 also known as the big beautiful bill is not a mistake. It is a deliberate policy choice and a harmful one. [2:17:20] Taking food away from struggling families is not build stronger communities. It creates instability, hardship and a risk and a greater risk of homelessness. [2:17:30] And taking healthcare away disproportionately from low-income households, immigrants, communities of color, intensifies, intensifies, existing inequities, worsens, health outcomes and pushes vulnerable families even closer to crisis. [2:17:47] There is nothing beautiful about making it harder for people to access the support that they need to remain healthy, housed, and fed. [2:17:55] While I cannot change the decisions made in Washington, we can act here at home and we have. The budget before us today represents a proactive and essential response to protect our most vulnerable residents. [2:18:08] In the recommended budget, I have advocated for and supported 44.7 million for safety net services, advancing our equity and health priorities, 5 million for the global village led by the partnership for the advancement of new Americans. [2:18:26] This is a critical investment in a network of wrap-around services and emergency services, including housing opportunities for refugee and low-income families. [2:18:39] $600,000 for tenant legal aid services, ensuring ranchers facing housing instability have access to the legal support necessary to remain safely housed. [2:18:50] And also just want to bring up really quick advocacy for the public defender's office to receive additional resources so they can support what we are mandated to do to provide a defense for an indigent community. [2:19:04] In the revised recommended budget, I have the whole heartily support the $500,000 allocation to mass fresco, mass fresco plus program to increase health access to healthy foods and boost consumption, particularly among populations with health disparities. [2:19:27] The $250,000 allocation for a feasibility study for the Department of Youth Development, a crucial first step toward identifying the full range of youth development services that county can offer and understanding how to better address disparities in youth outcomes across regions and demographics. [2:19:47] And the budgetary actions taken to formally establish the behavioral health services as a stand-alone county department. [2:19:55] When my office first advanced this major structural reform, we did so recognizing that the single county needed behavioral health system designed for today's realities, not one built nearly three decades ago. [2:20:08] This separation is far more than an administrative reorganization, as an independent department VHS will be better positioned to expand provider networks, improve care coordination, modernized data and technology systems enhance financial oversight and respond more rapidly and effectively to the needs of individuals experiencing serious mental illness and substance use disorders. [2:20:34] These are precisely the improvements the state now expects counties to deliver and my board of action paired with the budget re-alignment insurance San Diego is not only keeping pace but leading the way. [2:20:47] All of these investments in our communities ensure that residents are not left behind and that access to critical services is preserved, especially for individuals who may experience temporary gaps and support created by federal, not local policies shifts. [2:21:03] From the moment we saw these threats emerging, we acted, we developed a plan, secure the necessary resources, build strong partnerships, and today through this budget we are delivering on that commitment. [2:21:15] Lastly, I have full confidence in our CAO, our Incident Command structure and our Department of Finance to closely monitor and proactively address any emerging fiscal challenges. [2:21:27] Their leadership and fiscal stewardship ensure the county remains stable and prepared regardless of what adjustments may be required in the months of head ahead. [2:21:37] Thank you again to county staff for your countless hours of analysis and coordination that went into producing this thoughtful and balanced budget and most importantly, thank you to the community. [2:21:51] Both to those that are here today and those who participate throughout this process, your engagement, your stories, your advocacy guides our priorities and hold us accountable. [2:22:03] We do our best work when it is in partnership with you and I'm grateful for your continued involvement and willingness to shake the future of San Diego County and with that I will second the motion chair. [2:22:16] Thank you so much Vice Chair, Chair Patuma Geary. [2:22:20] Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to take a moment to tell you guys why I do this work. [2:22:26] I am the daughter of Mexican immigrants. I grew up in two countries. I know what it is to go without to see money and opportunity pass you by and that's why this budget is so important to me. [2:22:39] And I do want to preface my my prepared remarks with the fact that they are blunt and but they're also truthful and we need to acknowledge that truth because we are living in unprecedented times never in my imagination ever did I expect us to be faced with cuts to entitlement programs to safety net programs by this very administration. [2:23:04] South County has been overlooked for decades and I did not come to this job to accept that I came to change it and I do believe this budget reflects our values and prioritizes people. [2:23:15] On the Tijuana River we want real money and real action we secure $2.5 million to fix the Saturn Boulevard Pollution site one of the war sources of toxic air in our community. [2:23:27] We committed $20 million to clean up the Tijuana River and we created a new pollution crisis chief to push state and federal leaders towards a permanent fix our families deserve clean air clean beaches full stop. [2:23:41] On the cost of living Donald Trump and the Republicans made a choice to take food assistance and healthcare away from working families so they could give tax breaks to billionaires. [2:23:52] We had a choice to accept those cuts and let our neighbors go hungry or fight back. [2:23:58] I've seen what happens when families fall through the cracks when people go without food and housing and I refuse to let that happen on my watch. [2:24:06] We're hiring 120 new workers to help families keep their food and health benefits and we're putting $15.8 million of our own money to make up for what Trump and them took out. [2:24:18] On housing we're putting over $22 million to building more affordable homes and we're setting aside $5 million specifically to help immigrant and low income families because nobody should be pushed out of their community, especially when they help build it. [2:24:34] And we're also protecting our immigrant communities at a time when the Trump administration is escalating efforts to separate families and destabilize communities. [2:24:43] San Diego County's investment in immigrant legal defenses and investment in the well-being of our region. [2:24:49] Providing legal representation helps protect working families from unjust deportations keeps parents with their children and preserves the social and economic stability that neighborhoods depend on. [2:25:03] When families can remain together children experience greater security workers can continue contributing to our local economy and communities remain stronger safer and more resilient. [2:25:14] I especially want to lift up the powerful youth advocacy we have seen throughout this budget cycle. [2:25:21] Your determination delivered $250,000 for a youth development feasibility study, a major step toward a future department of youth development. [2:25:30] Advocacy takes courage even when it's just speaking up at the podium and it has been inspiring to see our youth not only asking for change but leading the call for it. [2:25:40] These are not empty promises. This is real money going to real solutions. [2:25:45] Now, some out there and we've heard the narratives and some publications that we spent too much. [2:25:52] I want to be honest about what spending less would have meant. [2:25:57] Seniors paying more for their bills. Families going hungry. People losing their homes and the Tejwana River staying a miss. [2:26:05] That's not being responsible. That's fighting for the people. [2:26:10] Also, this budget is balanced. Our reserves are 100% fully funded and we have a top credit rating from every major financial agency in the country. [2:26:20] We're not as some would say putting county finances at risk. We are investing in its solutions and there's a big difference when it comes to that. [2:26:28] And let me also say when right wing opponents realize about this budget what they're really saying is that it's okay to leave people behind. [2:26:36] It's okay to leave people who look like me behind and that community behind. [2:26:41] I think it's deeply cynical. We see that from Donald Trump. [2:26:45] We see that from the majority in Congress. We're seeing it here in San Diego too. [2:26:50] And it's not too inflame. It's to be clear because the people deserve to know the truth. [2:26:56] In summary, I would like to say that we are not done. The fight for a clean Tijuana River continues. [2:27:03] The cost of living crisis is not solved by any means. District one families deserve their fair share and we're not there yet. [2:27:12] Every day we need to make different choices choices to help families succeed, especially working families. [2:27:19] So today we celebrate tomorrow we continue fighting. [2:27:23] Thank you to everybody who spoke out in support of this budget. [2:27:26] And I want to especially thank Ebony, Joan, Nadia, Liz, Davia, Andrew and Brian. [2:27:33] And everybody at our team for all their work for this budget. Thank you. [2:27:39] Thank you so much. [2:27:41] Super is a dozen. [2:27:43] Thank you, Madam Chair, appreciate it. [2:27:47] I also want to thank staff for all your hard work and effort that putting this budget together. [2:27:52] There's a lot in this. This $9.1 billion budget, for example, that I like. [2:27:58] The increase of $98 million going to public safety as it should be for sheriff services. [2:28:04] And unfortunately, yes, for jail improvements. I'm all in favor of more schools, but unfortunately we still need jails and ones we have are pretty bad shape. [2:28:13] So this public safety money is going to sheriff services, jail improvements, opioid enforcement programs. [2:28:21] And includes additional fire protection for the region through staffing increases, county fire for water tender trucks and the night flying helicopter. [2:28:31] We learned for the LA fires at having mobile and large quantities of water is critical for saving lives and property. [2:28:39] For behavioral health, we're pursuing crisis services for youth in North County. [2:28:44] I'm happy for that. [2:28:46] And we're maintaining services and not scaling back in libraries, parks, road improvements. [2:28:51] In fact, hats off to our department of public works. [2:28:54] For reaching the target of a 70 pavement index for the unincorporated area roads. [2:29:02] I also appreciate the CAO for taking feedback and input, continuing funding for their drowning prevention and swim lessons for kids. [2:29:11] And for the youth sports defibrillator programs for all of our sports programs in the unincorporated area. [2:29:17] And for funding the drowning prevention. [2:29:20] It's very important we hear in San Diego after all, swim lessons actually save lives and what I've noticed in the drowning prevention programs in North County. [2:29:29] It's not just for kids, parents are actually enrolling in these classes and learning to swim, which is good. [2:29:35] However, there are some items that I don't support and I want to voice my opposition for the record, including the 13.2 million for the immigrant rights legal defense fund. [2:29:47] Providing legal services for immigrant and federal court facing deportation. [2:29:52] I do not think that is what local taxpayers should be paying for. [2:29:57] This is a federal issue. [2:30:00] This is not what local San Diego County folks should be paying for. That money should be going towards local efforts. [2:30:07] Not towards people who just came walked into the country and all of a sudden need legal issues. [2:30:14] Also, I don't support the division created by the county council's office, not by the county council, but for the consumer protection department. [2:30:22] This is a function that's already performed by the district attorney office. They're doing a great job, and I think this is totally redundant. [2:30:29] And I'm not necessary. And I haven't supported and I do not support unlocking the user reserves. I think reserves should be held sacred. [2:30:38] That funding is too valuable and limited to be spent in a manner it's being spent now. [2:30:45] I've voted against using a reserves ever since we've started doing this. There's too many ongoing services and operations being funded by this finite pot of money. [2:30:56] There's going to come a day and when we don't no longer have this reserve dollars. [2:31:01] It was opened up through politically generated Mania and hysteria that the sky is falling because of HR1. [2:31:08] It's not. This is fear-mogery and it tries to make the public think the sky is falling and everyone's going to lose food and health care. They're not. [2:31:18] Ultimately, it's able body people that between the ages of 18 and 64 with no dependence, who aren't willing to work volunteer or go to school 20 hours a week or turn in the paperwork to show it. [2:31:32] And the people that are here illegally are the only ones at risk of losing their medical benefits. [2:31:39] So if they're able body, they're single, got no dependence, are able to work. [2:31:47] They're only asking for 20 hours a week of volunteer or work or some type of service to pay for the services that you're receiving. [2:31:56] Those are the ones that are not willing to do that at risk. [2:31:59] The one else who is qualified and who has needs these services will get them. [2:32:05] It's only the ones that risk, the only ones that risk are willing to participate. [2:32:10] As it turns out, the sky is not falling. [2:32:13] In fact, so far, the impacts are estimated to be $8 million for additional staffing to address the increased work and reporting requirements of twice a year. [2:32:23] And depending on how much the state funds, we're still not sure, 15.7 million that serves the existing and tile recipients. [2:32:31] They're only puts at risk a potential of 24 million. [2:32:35] And that's of everyone who's eligible to work doesn't. [2:32:38] It doesn't turn into paperwork. [2:32:40] So we've opened up 381 million of reserves for this 24 million shortfall, potential shortfall. [2:32:48] And this board is spending it down at a tune of $95 million a year. [2:32:54] But all we really needed is up to this point is a potentially 24 million. [2:32:59] And we may not need that much. [2:33:02] This could have and should have been addressed by prioritizing our own budget, which increases about 5% every year, 5% of $8 billion is a lot. [2:33:10] We should not be spending these reserves. [2:33:12] And I said, I think this is a false hype and many are created to trick the public into accepting the board, opening and spending emergency reserves. [2:33:21] We could have spent, we could have retrieved half of that 24 million with this illegal alien defense fund. [2:33:29] We could have taken that 13.0 million and put it towards this 24 million. [2:33:35] As we spend this funds in this manner, this money's just not going to be there once it's spent. [2:33:40] This is 368 million of reserves. [2:33:43] Once it's spent, it's gone. [2:33:45] That money alone would earn 11 million dollars a year, and now we're taking it out of the reserves. [2:33:51] 11 million dollars a year, and if you compound that, that's a lot more over 5, 10, 15 years to take 380 million dollars out and spend it on one time things. [2:34:02] These are valuable reserves funds that are not going to capital improvements, which could last for years to go. [2:34:09] In fact, the San Diego County Taxpayers Association did a great job. [2:34:13] They did a fiscal analysis on the county of San Diego and put it out that our capital improvement allocation, which is for roads, for bridges, for infrastructure, for parks, for new amenities, and buildings, things like that. [2:34:29] Our allocation this year is only 45 million. [2:34:33] That's only one half a 1% of our budget. [2:34:37] It's the lowest it's spent in 16 years. [2:34:40] And previously, it's always been about 100 million a year. [2:34:44] It goes to capital, but we've got many buildings, many roads, many things that need improvements. [2:34:50] And this is how the city of San Diego has gotten so far and so deep in trouble. [2:34:55] Now, I will admit, staffs on a great job on the roads. [2:34:57] I keep an eye roads up to a certain standard at 70 CPCI. [2:35:01] Thank you. [2:35:02] But we still have bridges. [2:35:03] We still have buildings. [2:35:04] We still have a lot of things other things to make this building. [2:35:07] There's just built almost 100 years ago. [2:35:09] Still needs repair. [2:35:10] So we need those capital improvement dollars for other things. [2:35:14] And this year, because of all the other spending, it's about half what it used to be. [2:35:19] The city of San Diego is not there about a billion dollars behind on their infrastructure. [2:35:25] And that's a roads or streets. [2:35:27] The county, we bailed out the city of San Diego when about 600 houses flooded because they weren't taking care of their culverts. [2:35:34] We shouldn't be going down this path of less than the capital improvement projects going in. [2:35:40] So I think with those concerns, no $9 billion budget is perfect. [2:35:48] I'll admit that. [2:35:49] There's a lot of good in here. [2:35:51] But there's also a few things that are bad. [2:35:53] So I would like to put for the record. [2:35:56] I will vote for the budget overall that I'm against the $13.2 million for the immigrant legal defensively allocation. [2:36:04] I'm against utilizing the reserves and against the county council, [2:36:08] consumer protection unit being put in place. [2:36:11] Thank you very much. [2:36:18] Thank you. [2:36:19] I have some additional comments, but I'll turn to my to the vice chair if you just put your name up. [2:36:25] You want me to go ahead. [2:36:26] Okay. [2:36:27] Great. [2:36:30] Thank you all very much. [2:36:32] So again, I just want to thank county staff and John for everything you've done. [2:36:39] The whole team, everyone here, how much work we've put in. [2:36:43] I want to again, just acknowledge the moment that we're in historically and in our country. [2:36:52] We are at a moment where in Washington we're seeing severe disinvestment in our communities. [2:37:01] 70 billion dollars being allocated to ice while healthcare is cut. [2:37:07] So I'm very proud of the work we've done here in San Diego to create a budget that does invest in working families. [2:37:17] That does do everything we possibly can to make sure that people have access to food and don't go home. [2:37:32] Are able to keep a roof over their heads that invest deeply in tackling homelessness and our affordability crisis, [2:37:47] especially our crisis around affordable housing that prioritizes investments in public health, [2:37:53] especially in health equity like the Tewana River crisis and the sewage crisis, [2:38:00] and it makes enormous strides towards a safer, cleaner environment and future for San Diego families. [2:38:09] And a budget that does everything we can to protect our constitution, protect the rule of law and make sure that if you are in this country [2:38:17] that you cannot be kidnapped, deported off of our streets and disappeared into jails in El Salvador, [2:38:24] and other countries in other parts of this world. [2:38:28] So with that being said, again, acknowledge that this is the beginning and at the end that this is important work, [2:38:37] and that these are investments that are incredibly important for the future of a community. [2:38:42] I'm very proud of the budget that we've put together today. [2:38:46] I've proud of the partnership of my colleagues in bring this budget forward, [2:38:50] and really hope that we can pass this budget today for the future of San Diego County. [2:38:56] Vice Chair, Montgomery Step. [2:38:58] Yeah, just briefly, you know, we all were voted in by our constituency, so we have different perspectives on the budget, [2:39:09] but I just want to say I believe that there is such a thing as being fiscally responsible and then morally responsible to people, [2:39:19] and that I don't believe that it's worth having walking around and over people in our streets, [2:39:29] but being okay, because we're earning 11 million on interest, I don't think that that's okay. [2:39:36] I think that, well, I know what I do know, because I checked the numbers, right? [2:39:40] I'm going to be responsible. [2:39:42] And what I do know is that we have over $950 million in our reserves. [2:39:50] We have the amount, which represents 16.7% of our entire budget. [2:39:56] We have the amount that the general accounting principles says through their best practices, [2:40:04] we should have. [2:40:06] And this is not a hedge fund. [2:40:09] This is a government entity that is mandated to take care of our most vulnerable communities. [2:40:17] That is not anything we made up. [2:40:19] And the last thing I'll say is, I remember when the reserves conversation was being had, [2:40:26] before I even thought I would be a supervisor that has always been an issue in our community, [2:40:31] and that wasn't a direct impact of what is going on now at the federal government, [2:40:39] because we have seen over the years, and you can throw in the state here too, right? [2:40:44] I don't care what we blame, but it's been an issue where people have been suffering for a while, [2:40:49] and we have been sitting on money on top of money and hoarding it here at the county. [2:40:54] So that is, I just believe we can be physically responsible, [2:40:59] and we can be morally responsive to our constituency. [2:41:03] No matter what district they live in. [2:41:05] So appreciate the discussion. [2:41:08] Thank you very much. [2:41:10] Super, sir. [2:41:11] Thank you. [2:41:12] First of all, I like to stir off. [2:41:14] I think in our staff for doing such an outstanding job. [2:41:18] When you made the motion, [2:41:22] oh, I don't see it anywhere. [2:41:25] You know, I want to make sure items are in it. [2:41:28] Great. [2:41:29] You went quickly, and I don't want to hold everybody up. [2:41:31] I want to make sure that the $2.8 million for the shallow rent subsidies in it. [2:41:36] The $34.3 million for the new Ramona Sheriff stations in it. [2:41:41] The $460,000 for this again, so fire station is in it. [2:41:46] And that the $265.9 million for roads and infrastructure are in it. [2:41:53] Those who have been in eight, but when you called out individual items in it, [2:41:58] I didn't know if we skipped over or missing those dollar rounds are important to me. [2:42:04] Thank you. [2:42:06] Super, sir. [2:42:08] So I'm going to turn that to Joan to make sure I could look at my motion. [2:42:12] Whoever's more fishing here. [2:42:13] So I understand the items that you listed are in the CAOs recommended budget, [2:42:19] which was released to the public in May. [2:42:23] And so those items that we highlighted today were just those revisions to the recommended budget. [2:42:28] The revisions don't include taking anything out. [2:42:30] So those things that you listed are in the budget. [2:42:32] Okay. [2:42:33] So it's all in there. [2:42:34] Yeah. [2:42:35] Thank you very much. [2:42:36] Thank you for the clarity. [2:42:37] Okay. [2:42:38] Thank you very much. [2:42:39] We have a motion in a second. [2:42:41] Please vote. [2:42:43] Also, note for the record that in a rata was distributed in post of online yesterday [2:42:48] that made amendments to the resolutions that are being considered to revise references to [2:42:52] applicable county budget acquisitions. [2:42:54] Motion went incorporate the edits in the arada. [2:42:57] And with that, Charleston, remember that motion passes unanimously. [2:43:00] With all supervisors being present in voting aye. [2:43:02] Okay. [2:43:03] So we're moving on to item 10. [2:43:06] This is the second consideration and adoption of ordinance modernizing the San Diego county charter, [2:43:13] district and transparency accountability. [2:43:15] An independent oversight. [2:43:16] We'll begin with public comment. [2:43:18] Thank you. [2:43:19] Charleston, remember. [2:43:20] We have 42 requests to speak on this item. [2:43:22] 24 in person and 18 requesting to speak by phone. [2:43:25] Also, note that we received 144 e-commence. [2:43:28] 82 in support. [2:43:30] 156 in opposition and one neutral. [2:43:33] Friendly individuals that requested to speak an item 10 by phone. [2:43:36] Please dial in the conference sign using the instructions that were provided to you. [2:43:40] We'll begin with the in person speakers. [2:43:42] As your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak [2:43:45] of the podium. [2:43:46] Because there are ten and more speakers on the side of you. [2:43:48] You'll have one minute to address the board. [2:43:50] You'll ask you to begin by stating your name for the audio record. [2:43:53] I will call you in groups of three. [2:43:55] So please listen for your name. [2:43:57] Like to invite for the first three individuals. [2:44:00] Bride a lead strum. [2:44:01] No way yet yet. [2:44:02] And create a few. [2:44:03] I've called your name. [2:44:05] Come forward, please. [2:44:21] Hello. [2:44:22] Bride a lead strum. [2:44:24] District 3. [2:44:25] This proposal is deceptive and inaccurate. [2:44:28] When you state, when you state, when you state, [2:44:30] it strengthens transparency, accountability, and independent oversight. [2:44:34] You know that is not true. [2:44:37] Use supervisors will control appointments, [2:44:40] removals, and administrative processes of the bodies doing the independent oversight. [2:44:45] How on earth is this transparent accountable or independent? [2:44:50] Also, the conclusions are advisory, not obligatory. [2:44:54] Also, you were elected by voters for two terms. [2:44:57] That was a contact. [2:44:59] Now you're extending. [2:45:00] What they are actually voting for. I find it ironic, also, that several of you organize rallies, opposing politicians that act like kings, and hear you three ladies are acting like queens. Stop deceiving your constituents, actually be transparent. [2:45:19] Thank you. Next speaker, please. [2:45:26] Good afternoon, Board. My name is Noah Yik. I'm a researcher with the Center on Policy Initiatives. [2:45:30] Our county plays a crucial role in the lives of Sandiagans. It helps people stay housed, put on the table and access the care and services they need. [2:45:38] With the county of over 3 million people and a budget over 9 billion dollars, we must constantly ask ourselves, are we serving Sandiagans the best we can? [2:45:46] Right now, our government is left to answer that question on its own, which leaves communities without real accountability. [2:45:52] These reforms change that and are designed to be implemented without new cost to taxpayers, using what we already have more wisely in making our county work better for Sandiagans. [2:46:01] An independent program auditor ensures we are measuring real impact, whether people's lives are improving and whether Sandiagans have what they need. [2:46:08] An independent budget analyst ensures decisions are grounded in clear, honest information, so resources are spent equitably and prioritize communities with the greatest need. [2:46:17] Every dollar, every single public dollar shouldn't prove the lives of Sandiagans. Please vote yes to put these reforms on the ballot. [2:46:23] Give Sandiagans the power to shape what kind of county we want to live in. [2:46:27] Thank you. [2:46:29] Thank you. So next speaker is coming forward all night three to two speakers. [2:46:32] Dolly Madison, David the Veen and Andrew Lawson. [2:46:37] Good afternoon supervisors. My name is Karina Pue, my pronouns are she her and I'm here today by Fon Bahaaf of the San Diego LGBT Community Center. [2:46:45] Asking you all to vote in support of this item. [2:46:48] Transparency and governance is essential to ensuring that our community can properly advocate for themselves. [2:46:53] Additionally, adding independent oversight options including an independent budget analyst who will help our county spend dollars more equitably effectively and efficiently. [2:47:01] Please support this item and government transparency. Thank you. [2:47:06] Thank you. [2:47:07] Excuse me please. [2:47:09] Good morning supervisors. [2:47:11] Good afternoon now. My name is David Levine. [2:47:14] I'm a deputy public defender and I'm a board member of the Public Defenders Association of San Diego County. [2:47:20] The PDA supports item 10 independent fiscal analysis serves workers. [2:47:26] It serves taxpayers and it serves the public interest in knowing what the county can actually afford. [2:47:33] The PDA is a direct interest in one provision of this measure. [2:47:36] The option to appoint the county public defender by ordinance. [2:47:40] We will be watching that closely. Public defense depends on independence from the government we are required to check. [2:47:47] The county may write the check for the public defense. [2:47:50] The public defense must be free to check the county. [2:47:53] Thank you. [2:47:56] Thank you. Next speaker please. [2:47:59] Dean Madison. [2:48:01] Speaking today, I have accepted your one minute time frame. [2:48:05] I have entered into a contract and when that you will hold me to. [2:48:09] Is it fair if I should take more time just because I want more time? [2:48:13] No. [2:48:14] Voters voted for a specific term for the San Diego County supervisors. [2:48:19] You won eight years. That is what you get. [2:48:22] That is what you agreed to. [2:48:24] That is what the people you represent agreed to. [2:48:28] This is a dishonest attempt to extend your term by amending the charter and appearing with other ideas that sound good and have the look of transparency and accountability. [2:48:38] What you are doing is attempting to lock in your majority. [2:48:43] Would it be, would it be okay if President Trump to try and change the rules to gain another term after serving eight years when he has finished his term should he be able to get it for more years? [2:48:56] No. [2:48:57] Don't be selfish. [2:48:59] Let others San Diego and have the opportunity to serve the community. [2:49:03] Thank you. [2:49:04] I'd like to invite four to three additional speakers. [2:49:07] Oliver Twist, allegedly Audra, a Natalie Rashke. [2:49:27] Hi. Good afternoon. [2:49:29] So yes, I adamantly oppose this. [2:49:32] Again, for people that do oppose no kings. [2:49:34] How are we getting three queens up on the dias? [2:49:37] Before I get to, I do want to start out with an apology. [2:49:40] This is for your CAO step. [2:49:42] I made the term. [2:49:43] I use a term covering up and I want to be really clear. [2:49:46] I was talking about semanticly, smoke and mirrors covering up. [2:49:49] Not any indication of wrongdoing. [2:49:51] I greatly respect your CAO and her staff. [2:49:54] And so I just want to make it really clear. [2:49:56] I was talking semantically only. [2:49:58] And now back to our no queens programming. [2:50:02] When we have bureaucracy, this out of control, the solution is not more government. [2:50:07] Nor people that point their own oversight. [2:50:10] I use a term loosely oversight. [2:50:12] So you've got to stop that right now. [2:50:14] Rapping it up and all the feel good stuff is a dog pill and a marshmallow. [2:50:18] Or as I like to say in San Diego, a turd and a taco. [2:50:21] It stinks. [2:50:22] Don't give yourself a more term. [2:50:24] No more queens in San Diego. [2:50:26] It's just more political theater. [2:50:28] Thank you. [2:50:29] Thank you. [2:50:31] Next speaker, please. [2:50:40] I've significant concerns regarding you guys with transparency and accountability. [2:50:47] You can't even run a meeting. [2:50:50] So making sure that the fundamentals of doing that are followed, which would be having [2:50:55] a quorum. [2:50:56] Tara, suddenly you have a disability that would allow for you to not show your face on camera when [2:51:02] Monica and put to Paloma word. [2:51:04] The only ones here, therefore leaving it to be that there was no quorum. [2:51:09] And yet, you guys continue. [2:51:11] I'm not sure why you showed up now. [2:51:13] And it's interesting that you brought Eva Kai here because, you know, it's like I'm talking about [2:51:19] mothers that you're terminating and then you go ahead and give her a kiss. [2:51:22] Kind of like a fuck you. [2:51:24] I have my child and they don't because it'd be like me going to somebody who's homeless and asking [2:51:29] for food while I've got it in my hand and I take a bite and I just walk away. [2:51:34] So it is disgraceful that you do stuff like that to virtue signal as though you are, you know, [2:51:40] somehow better than the mothers each time I ate their parental rights up. [2:51:46] Thank you. [2:51:47] As the next, I'd like to invite three additional speakers, Doyle Morrison, Alicia Morrison and [2:51:52] Marco Espinoza. [2:52:06] Hello Board of Supervisors. [2:52:08] My name is Doyle Morrison for the record. [2:52:10] I have those this charter reform on the basis that three terms is unclear whether or not [2:52:21] that's retroactive. [2:52:23] So I have my posing this because I believe that the three terms will start once this is approved. [2:52:30] If it's voted on by the voters and I totally disagree with that. [2:52:35] I think that two terms would be enough for you guys to do the great work [2:52:39] that you're working on now and then you can move on further up the chain and do more better work [2:52:46] for our community at a higher level. [2:52:48] So I appreciate what you do and I want you to do more but I think two terms is enough. [2:52:54] Thank you. [2:52:57] Thank you. [2:52:58] Next speaker please. [2:53:03] Can we just pause one moment please. [2:53:07] It's been brought to my attention that there was a profanity utilized in this chamber and [2:53:15] another language. [2:53:16] I'm seeing knots of affirmation. [2:53:20] That is not acceptable. [2:53:22] That is not appropriate. [2:53:24] We do have a board policy against that kind of language in this chamber. [2:53:31] I'd be don't need to go backwards. [2:53:34] We will go forwards but this is one warning. [2:53:36] If we hear that kind of profanity again directed at anyone, you will be asked to leave the chamber. [2:53:43] Thank you. [2:53:46] Good afternoon. [2:53:48] Alicia Morrison. [2:53:50] I respectfully oppose this item, especially increasing three terms. [2:53:55] June 8, 2010 voters passed property to amend the charter to limit board supervisors to two terms. [2:54:03] Let's not forget what happened on January 6, 2021. [2:54:08] Because what is next? [2:54:09] The 20 second amendment of the US Constitution. [2:54:13] It was proposed to amend it. [2:54:15] It was introduced on January 23, 2025. [2:54:18] To increase the number of times a person can be elected as president. [2:54:22] Let me repeat that. [2:54:24] It was introduced on January 23, 2025. [2:54:28] To increase the number of times a person can be elected as president. [2:54:33] That is very scary thought. [2:54:35] Comments were made earlier about the Trump administration. [2:54:38] Imagine a third term for Donald Trump. [2:54:40] You had eight years to do work hard for your district. [2:54:44] So set up the success for the next person and pass the taunt. [2:54:48] Thank you. [2:54:50] This is the next speaker is coming forward on by three additional speakers. [2:54:53] C.K. Calderon Vargas, Fernanda Flores, and Jocelyn. [2:54:58] Afternoon, Marcos Nosa. [2:55:01] I apologize for my ignorance on this item. [2:55:04] I was expecting a presentation beforehand. [2:55:07] I did not educate myself on the agenda much before I really came today for what happened earlier this morning. [2:55:15] And now I'm just here because the view is nice and I like being here. [2:55:19] But I'm learning from the other public speakers. [2:55:22] And while the title and everything sounds great, I do like. [2:55:25] I did hear that even prior to right now about potentially going to three terms. [2:55:32] I don't think I like that. [2:55:35] I really did give it to consideration. [2:55:38] When I first heard about it a couple of days ago or weeks ago. [2:55:41] I like two terms. [2:55:44] Yeah, that feels right. [2:55:46] That's my opinion on that. [2:55:48] And if it did happen though, I would hope that it doesn't reset to where it gives you whole new three terms. [2:55:53] You just want additional term. [2:55:56] That would sit better with me than our whole reset. [2:55:59] Thank you. [2:56:01] Next speaker, please. [2:56:04] Good afternoon. [2:56:06] Chair, supervisors. [2:56:07] My name is Ike Calderon Vargas. [2:56:09] I'm the director of Latino services at the San Diego LGBT Community Center. [2:56:14] I speak in strong support of item 10. [2:56:17] The families I serve rely on this county for health care, legal defense and safety. [2:56:22] Especially now as federal cuts threaten those services. [2:56:25] In a government this large transparency is not a luxury. [2:56:29] It is how our communities know this system is working for them. [2:56:32] And independent ethics commission and independent budget analyst. [2:56:37] And independent auditor and a budget. [2:56:41] The public can actually see these are the checks or residents deserve. [2:56:46] Please move this measure forward and let the voters decide in November. [2:56:50] Thank you. [2:56:53] Thank you. [2:56:55] Good afternoon. [2:56:56] Supervisors. [2:56:57] My name is Fetananda Flores. [2:56:58] I'm with IOTC local 122. [2:57:00] We represent everything that has to do with live event and production here in Southern California. [2:57:05] Currently representing 1500 members. [2:57:09] We are here in full support of advancing this forward. [2:57:13] You have our continued commitment to getting this not only past today but also past in November at the ballot. [2:57:19] You have done an incredible job with the resources that you have. [2:57:23] There are government entities that are half the have budgets have the size of the county. [2:57:28] And they have these departments in place. [2:57:30] You all deserve those things too to be a tool to make better decisions and move our county forward. [2:57:36] So we have our support. [2:57:38] Thank you. [2:57:40] Thank you. [2:57:41] Like to buy for three additional speakers. [2:57:43] Alexander Valentin. [2:57:45] Malik Thornton and Matthew Careney. [2:57:49] Hi. [2:57:50] I'm here to refute the content and title of this proposal. [2:57:54] The word transparent accountability and independent oversight sounds so good. [2:57:59] However, this bill does not. [2:58:01] Does not out these purported actions. [2:58:04] How is it independent oversight when the Board of Supervisor gets to determine who gets hired and who gets dismissed. [2:58:11] When they don't like the outcome. [2:58:13] You people on the left freak out, freaked out when President Trump says that he's going to be in office for the third term. [2:58:21] And how is this? [2:58:23] What you're doing is the truly authoritarian and it is this ingenious. [2:58:29] So don't don't don't don't don't pass this bill. [2:58:33] Thank you. [2:58:34] Can you please state your name for the record? [2:58:35] Oh yeah. [2:58:36] Jocelyn. [2:58:37] Thank you. [2:58:40] Hello, my name is Alexander Valentine. [2:58:42] I'm a deputy public defender and a board member from the San Diego Public Defender Association. [2:58:46] I support item 10 as it promotes transparency and ethical practices related to San Diego County's budget. [2:58:52] At the same time, I would note opposition to item 13 as transparency can be taken too far and limit government operations in restrict functionality. [2:59:00] Transparency is the foundation of public trust, especially in relation to the county's budget. [2:59:05] San Diego County residents and county employees deserve the opportunity to see how budget decisions are reached, [2:59:10] who was involved in what information is being considered an allocation of funds. [2:59:14] They're proposed ordinance and item 10 for independent oversight is an important step toward ensuring openness, accountability, [2:59:20] and engagement, especially when determining budget allocation and use of public funds. [2:59:25] Our county continues to grow and necessary departments like the public defender deserve transparency from the county when budget decisions are being made. [2:59:33] Transparency is not just good governance. [2:59:35] It is a commitment to the people being served in the employees serving the community. [2:59:39] Thank you. [2:59:41] Thank you. [2:59:42] Go ahead and call three additional speakers. [2:59:44] Vanessa Melendrez. [2:59:46] Crystal Irving and Michelle Krug. [2:59:48] I've called your name. [2:59:49] Please come forward. [3:00:00] Good afternoon, board. My name is Vanessa Melendrez and I'm with the Filipino Workers Center with offices in Vista and Chulivista. And we serve Filipino caregivers and domestic workers in all of Southern California. And I am coming up here today to ask you to please bow yes on these reforms. Because who, and expected to call up so fast? [3:00:29] Please bow yes in support of this item because transparency is good governance and it's essential to ensuring our community can properly advocate for themselves. Additionally, adding independent oversight options and including an independent budget analyst will help the county spend their dollars more effectively. Thank you so much. [3:00:51] Thank you. Next speaker, please. [3:00:54] I don't have questions here. [3:00:56] Michelle, come on up. Thank you. [3:01:06] Good afternoon, Michelle Krug and I strongly support this ordinance and I will work to get it passed. [3:01:16] I think that the transparency is other people have said before is a long time coming. [3:01:23] It definitely will make a difference. [3:01:26] I also think that when people are talking about getting 12 years, you don't just get 12 years. [3:01:33] What you get is the opportunity for the people to make a decision. [3:01:38] And I trust that. And the bottom line is that when people have that decision, this also puts us on par with the state. [3:01:54] And I think we have been in a disadvantaged situation because our county only has eight years. [3:02:01] I think keeping it on par with the state will allow us to be able to work more effectively as partners. [3:02:08] Thank you. [3:02:09] Thank you. [3:02:10] As the next speaker is coming forward on by the remaining speakers in person. [3:02:14] Marco Brionis, one of your Frank and Michelle Quavos. [3:02:19] Crystal Irving, President of the SCIU local 221 speaking of favor of this item. [3:02:24] No one knows better than the county employees that SCIU 221 represents. [3:02:28] The challenges that our county faces in the current national environment. [3:02:32] No one knows better than our members. The importance of providing quality services that the community depends on now more than ever. [3:02:40] I just want to take a moment to appreciate the dozens of stakeholders that provided feedback in input on this proposal. [3:02:46] It is a comprehensive proposal that provides for transparency, accountability from both county staff leadership and elected officials alike. [3:02:54] That will help to support our employees and the communities that we're delivering services to, which include our children, our elderly, our vulnerable and quite frankly, all sandy agents who benefit from it either directly or indirectly. [3:03:08] This is the right proposal to bring to the voters in November. [3:03:11] And we believe this is the right path forward for our county. Thank you. [3:03:18] I'll go ahead and recall some of the previous speakers. [3:03:22] Andrew Lawson, Natalie Rashke, Malik Thornton, Matthew Kerney, Marco Brionis, quite of your Frank and Michelle Quavos. [3:03:33] Awesome. Thank you so much. [3:03:38] Thank you. The Board of Supervisors for allowing me to speak today. [3:03:41] My name is Malik Thornton. I am a young professional who has lived in the San Diego county for my entire life. [3:03:47] And it's been two of my lifetimes since the charter has been reformed. [3:03:51] That means that it has been 48 years that we have not touched this charter. [3:03:56] That means that it slows down important policy that young people depend on. [3:04:01] That means that the Board of Supervisors has not had real accountability independent accountability for two of my lifetimes. [3:04:09] And that means that young people have suffered. And we are on the precipice of opportunity. [3:04:15] We have so much opportunity ahead of us. [3:04:18] But we will not be able to capitalize on those opportunities if you don't have policies and place that allow you to do your work. [3:04:25] Because we rely on you. [3:04:27] And so I encourage you that if you care about your young constituents. [3:04:31] If you want to make sure that we have a future that includes us, that we can have a house, [3:04:36] and not have to worry about being in debt for the rest of our lives. [3:04:39] Please, please make sure that you guys pay. [3:04:42] Thank you. [3:04:43] Thank you. [3:04:44] Well now here from the individuals that requested. [3:04:48] Did I call your names, sir? [3:04:52] Good afternoon. [3:04:53] Good afternoon, Supervisors. [3:04:54] Mark O'Bion is political director of the San Diego and Imperial County's labor counsel. [3:04:57] We're proud to represent over 100 unions and 200,000 working families in our border region. [3:05:02] We're here today because we believe modernizing the county charter and insurance transparent and countable leadership. [3:05:07] The kind of county government that workers and working families rely on for fair and effective public services. [3:05:12] A more accountable county government helps ensure that policies serve the entire community, not just narrow interest. [3:05:18] The people get accountability by being at the table and this measure does that. [3:05:22] These are just a few of the reasons we're proud to stand with this coalition of community members and leadership, [3:05:26] working towards a better county for all San Diego's. [3:05:28] We thank you. [3:05:29] Thank you for your support. [3:05:33] Thank you. [3:05:34] Next speaker. [3:05:37] Hey everyone. [3:05:38] My name is Gwen. [3:05:39] I'm a researcher at UCSD and a proud member of UW-4811 who represents over 10,000 workers in San Diego County. [3:05:46] And I wanted to voice our strong support for modernizing the charter. [3:05:49] We're in a period of time where as a country we're seeing blatant corrupt spending and outright swindling of American taxpayers at the highest levels of our government. [3:05:59] And I think it's more important than ever across all levels of government. [3:06:02] We established stringent structures to ensure transparency and accountability and spending. [3:06:06] So we can hold our elected officials accountable along with all other critical modernizations proposed to bring proposed to bring to our charter. [3:06:14] So us and our workers are in strong support. [3:06:17] Thank you. [3:06:19] Well now. [3:06:20] Next speaker please. [3:06:23] Hi. [3:06:26] My name is Dr. Michelle Quavis. [3:06:27] I'm a pediatric neuropsychologist. [3:06:29] But I'm here to represent the National Union of Health Care Workers. [3:06:32] I see lots of friendly faces that have been with us for our six and a half years of six and a half month strike. [3:06:37] But here I am here to represent an UHWS of supporting this transparency. [3:06:45] I want to be clear that the county is one of the largest purchasers and providers of health care. [3:06:51] And that the charter reform helps us create that transparency and ensuring that health care dollars are spent to the most appropriately for patient care. [3:07:02] Helping the most vulnerable in our community. [3:07:05] I'm also in large support for transparency, particularly related to the independent budget analysis and independent program auditor. [3:07:15] With respect to the allocation of funds for supporting our most vulnerable populations. [3:07:20] Thank you very much. [3:07:24] Thank you. [3:07:25] Well now hear from those that requested to speak by phone. [3:07:27] We'll start with our first caller. [3:07:36] All both, most of this is self-serving still and much, Parkinson politics. [3:07:43] But it doesn't do much for real transparency or independent oversight in the county government. [3:07:50] Notice the charter amendment. [3:07:52] The Queens are fake transparency in the county government. [3:07:56] We're a better than that. [3:07:58] No reason don't stand term limits. [3:08:01] And when something you're in term in the middle of it is a huge conflict of interest. [3:08:07] This proposal would also impose term limits on the sheriff DA and other county elected officials who currently have none. [3:08:17] Which by the way is against the state law. [3:08:21] If they all have the same term limit, [3:08:24] it guarantees officers with same political beliefs. [3:08:28] Nice to have a bunch of analysts on the program, [3:08:32] but these are political appointees. [3:08:35] And in no way independent. [3:08:38] We'll get. [3:08:40] We'll hear from the next caller. [3:08:47] A mental echo follow here. [3:08:49] And to the script is people parodying transparency. [3:08:53] Transparency clearly, again, [3:08:55] you're here. [3:08:57] Because you've been asked to be here. [3:08:59] Even more clearly is you are all. [3:09:02] You're truly not being attention to this board and they're lack of transparency in total opposition of this item. [3:09:05] Totally totally totally [3:09:09] terribly miss, especially for the ones like Tera who have proven that she's been totally involved in. [3:09:16] She's been totally abusive by taking advantage of the ignorant, not only abusive but entirely [3:09:23] entitled and privileged. [3:09:25] Honestly, how much time do you need to further destroy our county and further run it [3:09:31] to the ground? [3:09:32] But that's even possible. [3:09:34] I hope the people who put their face in this corrupt system and board wake up. [3:09:41] Truly question, everything. [3:09:43] Wake the freak up, seriously. [3:09:47] Ladies, man, total slaves. [3:09:50] I'm done. [3:09:52] I'm here from the next caller. [3:10:03] Good afternoon, my name is Terian Scally. [3:10:05] I came today to express my opposition to item 10. [3:10:09] I think a lot of these changes are useful. [3:10:12] However, they seem to clarify what seems to be the real purpose of the charter changes, which is to ensure [3:10:19] that you three board of supervisors supporting these charter changes will have a third term. [3:10:25] It seems, if you were really serious about these changes, you would bring them after the next election cycle. [3:10:32] I support transparency by independent bodies, but I noticed that nearly all of those opposed [3:10:38] are arguing in opposition because of the lengthening of the current board members' term. [3:10:44] Why are they both in the same ordinance? [3:10:48] Carter changes are serious and important to our county and need to be separated into different proposals and not lumped together. [3:10:57] Thank you for hearing my concerns this afternoon. [3:11:01] Thank you. [3:11:02] And we'll hear from our next caller. [3:11:08] My name is Kathleen Mippitt and good afternoon Councils Board. [3:11:16] No one will benefit by ensuring a third term except these three board majority. [3:11:25] And they should not be able to vote on an item that will benefit them. [3:11:31] Like many of the other items said are put forth whether it's on the agenda or whether it's by the board of supervisors. [3:11:39] There seems to be an intention to obscure and to get things passed the public. [3:11:45] You need to have simple straightforward language and this is not straightforward. [3:11:51] From the title it sounds like it's a great idea until you read the details. [3:11:56] And the dell is always in the details. [3:11:59] So please I oppose this and I think you can tell by the people who are there. [3:12:04] The only ones who have a conflict of interest are the ones who are supporting it. [3:12:09] Thank you for letting me speak. [3:12:12] Thank you. [3:12:13] We'll hear from the next caller. [3:12:22] Thank you. [3:12:23] Good afternoon and I oppose. [3:12:25] I've a cousin had adequate time to review very important details that deserves scrutiny, including items such as supervisory or control over employees and contracts. [3:12:37] We're starting term limits of two are sufficient for a U.S. president. [3:12:41] Their sufficient for supervisors. [3:12:43] It raises legitimate questions about who the interests are being served when elected officials write a measure that extends their own tenure. [3:12:52] Term limits are at the core of democracy meant to promote broader participation. [3:12:58] We do to undo influences, prevent corruption and bring diverse experiences and innovative ideas to policy making. [3:13:08] In reality, the most direct beneficiaries here are the supervisors placing it before the public under a really deceptive guys of charter modernization. [3:13:21] No on this item. [3:13:24] Thank you. [3:13:25] On the next caller. [3:13:33] Good afternoon. [3:13:35] My name is Becky Rappen. [3:13:37] While I support many of the transparency and accountability measures included in this proposal. [3:13:42] I urge you to reject this charter reform package of curtain written. [3:13:46] The report highlights several important additions including independent financial analysis, ethics oversight and improved public access to government information. [3:13:55] Unfortunately, those reforms have been bundled together with a proposal to increase term limits for county supervisors. [3:14:03] The people in the San Diego County have already spoken on this issue. [3:14:06] Voters approved the current two term limit because they believe. [3:14:10] Regular turnover and elective offices process promotes accountability and creates opportunities for new voices and perspectives. [3:14:19] Extending term limits by 50% is a major policy change and should not be packaged alongside popular transparency updates. [3:14:28] I'm also disappointed that there was no presentation for this item. [3:14:32] The public public wouldn't benefit from an explanation for each. [3:14:37] From the next caller. [3:14:44] Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. [3:14:47] Excuse me and will hear. [3:14:49] I call them because I think it's important for you to realize out here in the incorporated. [3:15:00] There's estimated some 30-35% of those consider ourselves independent. And this optics does not work well for us. [3:15:11] Because it's clear that you have obstacles that really intent of the charter change to allow yourself a third term. [3:15:21] And no matter what else you want to accomplish, it's suspicious that it just isn't even included in the title, [3:15:28] what you really want to accomplish. If it's a good thing, why isn't it part of the title? [3:15:33] And if these are all really good things, why are they bundled? Why wouldn't we have a separate charter changes? [3:15:39] This would show how really valuable you fill each of the items are. [3:15:44] I, too, was looking forward to a staff presentation, because the explanations are real. [3:15:53] You, you're from the next caller. [3:16:01] Hey, it's truth. This item is the only reason. 20-minute late. [3:16:05] Comey mommy, Tara, it's here in person today. Using her baby as a prop. She wants to be crowned publicly. [3:16:11] Well, pride comes before a fall. We've seen your back and deals on everything from the CAO, which resulted in lawsuits. [3:16:16] So the center on policy initiative on these extended term ones that 60% of voters already opposed in 2010. [3:16:22] Maybe the reason Tara wanted supervisors to live from outside of their district is because she has a house in the city of San Diego. [3:16:28] And I'm going to allow the house in La Mesa. [3:16:30] Tara and her marionette, pride, babies, men, well-a, are not interested in transparency. [3:16:35] They're interested in a power grabs to create their personal wisdom and do a free UTSC, S.K.A.U. [3:16:40] and the building construction trades council both funded with our money. [3:16:44] Now, Tara represents 20-26 will be real accountability, especially since Tara was found guilty of abusing her authority at the part-time lower bar in North Park. [3:16:53] One of the queen's hair isn't bringing it to accountability, but she can't even commit to a meeting start time. [3:16:58] All she wants is to ensure her reign of terror is indefinite, no corrupt county queen. [3:17:10] Pam, let's just take a minute. [3:17:15] What is three Republican white men wanted extended term limits? [3:17:21] How would you three women react in? [3:17:24] This item has always been a scam, a lie, an insult to American citizens who vote for turn limits. [3:17:29] It is a paragraph by Queen Tara as her ladies and lady. [3:17:32] Monica, do you think you'll ever be chairwoman if Tara's on the board indefinitely? [3:17:39] The three women on this board are in over their head fancy and they can manage the multi-billion dollar budget, even with extended terms. [3:17:46] The board can be transparent and accountable beginning to day without changing the charter. [3:17:51] I'm going to engage it can be improved to day by lifting the restrictions on the public speakers as dictated by Queen Tara, especially though speaking in opposition. [3:18:00] Tara stands for no king's insurance of her hunger for more power. [3:18:04] Would you like that in its whole health behavior term? [3:18:08] Don't be her minion. [3:18:09] And we're tired of seeing the same activist begging for what they want, almost on their needs. [3:18:16] Under the next caller. [3:18:25] This supervisor is my name is Madison, and although I am a favor of modernizing the county charter and increasing chance fancy, I would ask you to vote no on this proposal because the San Diego county voters already decided that two terms is the appropriate limit for this office. [3:18:40] What concerns me most is that the officials who would directly benefit from this change are the ones advancing it. [3:18:46] Family restructuring with the high cost of living communities are concerned about public safety, homelessness, mental health, infrastructure and the future of our region. [3:18:55] Those are the issues that deserve our attention. [3:18:57] Not extending term limits for those already in power. [3:19:00] Our government is strongest when leadership is continually renewed and opportunities exist for new people to step forward and serve. [3:19:07] Our perspectives can bring new solutions to long-standing problems. [3:19:11] The voters established a two-term limit and that standard has served our county well. [3:19:15] I ask you to reject this proposal and preserve the term limits of San Diego county residents already chose. [3:19:21] Thank you. [3:19:23] Thank you. [3:19:25] And we're here from the next caller. [3:19:34] Afternoon, my name is Diane Grace and I am coming before you to vote. [3:19:40] Voice my opposition to item 10 which would advance the charter reform package to the November ballot. [3:19:48] It is costly to put such a divisive proposal on the ballot that will probably fail because of the editorials that have already been very negative. [3:19:59] Our oversight body should be truly independent and the language doesn't seem to support that. [3:20:07] And current supervisor should not benefit from changing their own term limits. [3:20:14] Voter should be allowed to consider each reform proposal separately. [3:20:19] The agenda item title doesn't tell you it's true intent that they want the present supervisors to have three terms. [3:20:28] We have mentioned before. Why not include this in the title. Thank you. [3:20:35] Thank you. And we're here from the final caller. [3:20:46] Good afternoon. My name is Marina Kada-Kashan. I'm a deputy public defender and a member of the San Diego Public Defenders Association. [3:20:55] And I'm here to express my support for item 10. [3:20:59] Transparency is the absolute foundation to public trust, particularly regarding our county's budget. [3:21:05] Our residents and hardworking county employees deserve full visibility into how our budget decisions are being reached. [3:21:13] Who's at the table and what data is driving the decisions that are being made? [3:21:18] For essential departments, like the public defender's office, clarity on decisions affecting our funding and affecting our budget are crucial. [3:21:27] Because it directly impacts our independent community members and our ability as an entire holistic office serving those independent community members. [3:21:37] This proposal strengthens independent ethics oversight, provides nonpartisan fiscal and budget analysis, and creates this independent evaluation of county programs. [3:21:49] So that's the public. [3:21:51] You're in sure last the room with that concludes public comment on this item. [3:21:55] Okay. Thank you all very much. [3:21:58] I guess I'll just begin happy to make a motion to prove this item. [3:22:05] I first just want to thank everyone for this has been a long process. There's been huge amounts of conversation and input. [3:22:12] People began putting these ideas forward a number of years ago and it's really been an iterative conversation where some good ideas emerge and some bad ideas emerge and bad ideas got tossed out and good ideas got stronger. [3:22:27] And the process of having these conversations made the package of reforms better and more powerful and I think that we've really arrived in a great place. [3:22:39] This has been a long stakeholder process driven by residents and community groups and business partners and our labor partners and I just want to thank you for your leadership. [3:22:51] This final version has made a number of changes and reflects a number of changes made along the way. [3:22:56] Most recently it removed term limit changes for independently elected county offices in response to input from the sheriff and the DA. [3:23:06] We also heard concerns about ballot question clarity and those concerns have been addressed, but the heart of the reforms remain strong. [3:23:16] We still do not have an independent ethics commission. This try to reform and establish that. We still do not have an independent budget analyst or an independent program auditor. [3:23:26] This measure gives voters the chance to change that. [3:23:29] This measure gives the public stronger tools to see how money is spent and whether programs are working and whether government is meeting the standards that people deserve. [3:23:40] And it does all this in a revenue neutral way because no new spending would be permitted and no reduction in county service would be allowed. [3:23:49] So again I would like to thank the broad coalition supporting and championing this reform package including firefighters, our deputy sheriffs, environmental advocates, labor unions, civil rights groups, reproductive health advocates, attorneys groups, small business leaders, community organizations and others across the San Diego county. [3:24:09] This has been a very broad tent process and I will tell you, has been incredibly interesting and difficult because these are groups who not only don't agree on every issue, often agree on no issues. [3:24:25] So to have found common ground on a package of reforms to make our government work better for everyone has been I think pretty extraordinary and I am very excited to give the voters the opportunity to make a decision for themselves. [3:24:42] Again, as has been said from the very beginning and as I've said many times, these are not questions that are up to us as members of the county board of supervisors. [3:24:54] These are questions that are up to the voters. [3:24:58] These are questions that can only and should only be decided by voters. [3:25:03] The question around the structure of our charter and the rules governing our region are basically the constitutional questions for our community and these are questions that are left to the voters. [3:25:16] So what I think we can do and the best we can do in our positions as supervisors is to put forward an option for voters to consider and decide whether these are reforms that they'd like to see adopted and move forward or not. [3:25:31] And I'll be very proud to put that on the ballot, but ultimately we'll trust that our voters are smart and wise and capable of making good decisions for themselves about the rules to govern our region. [3:25:44] So I'm happy to make that motion. [3:25:46] I would like to urge my colleagues to support and with that I can turn it over to supervisor Desmond. [3:25:55] So I will be second on the floor by share. [3:25:59] Thank you. [3:26:00] Madam Chair, appreciate it. [3:26:01] I've made my position on the proposed charter amendments of quite clear in our previous board hearings. [3:26:07] I'm not going to be supporting it today. [3:26:09] And I'd like to ask voters of San Diego County to reject this deceptive charter reform. [3:26:16] The voters I think are being deceived by using the attractive language such as a transparency accountability and independent oversight. [3:26:24] We should be doing those things already. [3:26:27] That's our job. [3:26:29] That's what you elected us for. [3:26:31] It's to be transparent, to be accountable and have independent oversight. [3:26:35] All of those things we can do without a charter amendment. [3:26:40] So this isn't about modernizing county government. [3:26:43] To me, it's a power grab by extending our own term limits and creating a political patronage system. [3:26:51] That's in 500.4 of the amended charter would require top level positions of the county to be approved by the board before they are hired. [3:27:01] That's getting our fingers in my opinion weighed down deep into the weeds. [3:27:06] And these are going to become political appointment as opposed to merit or merit base or appointments. [3:27:16] This proposal would make all leadership positions at the top of the county government political, meaning people only get the job if they have the right politics, not the right qualifications. [3:27:27] Section 501.9 of the amended charter, the non interference clause, that's us non interfering with the staff. [3:27:35] Historically, regulates how supervisors and staff interact with the county staff and bars us from giving county staff directives. [3:27:43] But if we have the yay or nay on hiring, or firing on hiring them, to me that's getting getting too deep into the staff section of the county. [3:27:56] There's an additional section that grants a board of supervisors in their staff. [3:28:01] The ability to weigh in on the hiring and firing of more than 600 manager positions at the county. [3:28:08] So the board should not, I think, under any circumstances, interfere with the hiring process of the county management up and down the organization. [3:28:16] That's what we hire the CAO for. [3:28:18] That's what the CAO works for us and then everybody else works for the CAO. [3:28:22] The CAO is not doing their job and we need to rethink that process but we shouldn't be hiring people into the other different levels of the county. [3:28:32] So, Section 606, 100 of the amended charter would extend supervisors' term limits from two years to two terms to three four year terms for total of 12 years. [3:28:44] There's already been pointed out supervisors that was passed by 68% of the vote of the two terms in 2010. [3:28:52] So San Diego County residents have already spoken. [3:28:56] The five of us here, we all ran with the understanding that we get two terms. [3:29:01] And now that we're in office in the office, we want to change the rules for ourselves and give ourselves an extra term. [3:29:08] I don't think that's right. If we do that, it do this third term. [3:29:12] It should only apply to new supervisors. [3:29:15] Section 702 creates an independent budget analyst and program auditor. [3:29:20] I don't know why this would have to go to a vote of the people. I can't we just do that. [3:29:24] That sounds great, but how truly independent are they? [3:29:28] We the board would hire and fire them. We'd decide their salaries and they would report directly to us. [3:29:34] They need reporting to the people. They need to be independent. [3:29:39] Same thing with ethics commission. The ethics commission would be pointed by the supervisors and our county council who I trust, but he works for this county board of supervisors. [3:29:48] So I question how independent these these offices would be. [3:29:52] So I can't support this. To me it's too self-service serving. [3:29:57] We're sugar coating this. [3:30:00] And adding an extra term with the terms of accountability, transparency, and independent oversight. [3:30:06] We should already be doing those things. [3:30:08] And again, I would encourage Sandy Agons to reject this deceptive term. [3:30:13] Thanks. [3:30:15] Super, thank you. [3:30:18] I'm sure I really want to get to yes. [3:30:22] I'm not trying to poke at you all, but I really want to get to yes. [3:30:27] There's so many good things in this. [3:30:29] I'm going to offer a friendly amendment to the areas where I have difficulty. [3:30:37] We've never, this will be the first in the county to have retroactive termimmets. [3:30:44] It's never been done in the state. [3:30:47] It's always all termimmets have been moving forward with newly elected. [3:30:54] And I fear there's not your intention to have three more terms, but rather one, making it 12 for everybody. [3:31:03] And I get that, but it's never been tested in court. [3:31:06] And if it were tested, it would give us the potential of being here for 20 years. [3:31:12] I don't know of us, but for us long tooth folks, you and I would have 20 years. [3:31:20] So, my first amendment, or it's a group amendment, but the first portion, would be that the term limits would apply for the new terms, [3:31:31] not for anybody who's already in office. [3:31:34] The second thing is we're changing the language in much of this. [3:31:41] My colleague, Supervisor Desmond Hit, is we have a moat around purchasing right now, where we can't unduly influence them. [3:31:54] And we have all sorts of protections against single source contracts that we're working with the public's money. [3:32:02] We want to make sure that those protections are there. [3:32:05] I fear that by removing that moat, that we are running the risk of having undue influence on the decisions. [3:32:14] So, I'd prefer that that'd be taken out, that section 701, excuse me, 705.3. [3:32:20] So, we wouldn't be able to interact with the purchasing department or the contracting staff directly. [3:32:30] The way we have it currently. [3:32:33] The third thing is, I'd like to remove the proposed language empowering the board to confirm or remove county staff. [3:32:46] I think civil services is important. [3:32:48] And I think that the language that we're using could be reinterpreted by future boards to go much deeper. [3:32:56] And I don't think, you know, if I fill pot holes in my desk, [3:33:02] maybe I just want to be the best pot hole filler there is. [3:33:05] And my party registration shouldn't matter. [3:33:09] But when you have this kind of oversight, when you have political tensions, all of a sudden, [3:33:15] we're putting all sorts of pressure on civil service that shouldn't be there. [3:33:20] The running of government shouldn't be regulated by the electives. [3:33:27] So, I don't believe there's adequate protections that the next board doesn't say everybody's an ACAO and this. [3:33:40] And redefining the positions is arbitrary. [3:33:43] And that could easily be done with a three-volt majority. [3:33:47] So, I'd like to see that removed. [3:33:49] And then, of course, requiring the independent auditor be elected in accountable to a public. [3:33:57] I don't want this person to be a political appointee. [3:34:00] The way it's written, three members of this board could choose that political appointee. [3:34:06] And I'm not suggesting that this board's going to be nefarious. [3:34:12] But what happens if five Biden's get elected to follow us or five Trump's? [3:34:20] And I threw on both so everyone had somebody they may not like. [3:34:25] Are you going to be happy with these rules? [3:34:27] If they have that kind of power, you see, if I was an efarious person, [3:34:33] I could weaponize those audits in target political folks because they report directly to three members of the board. [3:34:41] They should report to five but if there's a three board, three member board, I mean majority. [3:34:48] I don't like the answer county council gives me. [3:34:54] So I'll direct them to audit them. [3:34:57] Or if I don't like what somebody else says. [3:35:00] Maybe behavior health is and giving me the answers I like. [3:35:04] So I put them through an audit or maybe I go after the sheriff or anybody else. [3:35:13] And so I'm worried that we're giving an incredible power to the people that follow us in office. [3:35:21] And I'm not comfortable with that. [3:35:23] So I want to explain why I felt strongly about these areas. [3:35:29] The likelihood of you accepting it is slim. [3:35:32] However, I really want to get to yes. [3:35:35] There's a lot of other items. [3:35:37] The FX committee. [3:35:38] I was appalled when I got elected and found out that we report to no one. [3:35:43] And I thought how crazy is that? [3:35:44] Why don't we just go with the FPC? [3:35:46] Well, they have a two million population cap. [3:35:50] We're at three point three. [3:35:52] We don't qualify. [3:35:53] Even if we wanted to contract with the FPC, we can't get one. [3:35:58] Because we're too big. [3:35:59] So this solves that problem. [3:36:02] And that's a big problem. [3:36:04] But it puts us at risk down the road. [3:36:09] If the people that replace us aren't as good is where the board is now. [3:36:16] So that's why I'm asking for these amendments. [3:36:23] If you accept them, I will gladly vote for this and I'll cheer for it. [3:36:28] And while I can't campaign in my office for it, I certainly will make it known in my personal circles. [3:36:34] How much I could support this. [3:36:37] But short of those changes, I'm just too worried that we're solving a problem with a bigger problem. [3:36:44] Because while this board may be in the straight and narrow, we don't know who's going to follow us. [3:36:52] I'm asking for the amendment. [3:36:56] So I talked a long time. [3:36:57] We've may have lost what I was saying to start with. [3:37:00] I think it three. [3:37:01] We had one about term limits. [3:37:04] One about term limits. [3:37:07] One about term limits. [3:37:08] One about the appointments and confirmation process. [3:37:11] And one about the independent auditor. [3:37:13] Four total. [3:37:15] Four total in the package. [3:37:18] And I think that you all know this. [3:37:23] When I ask for an amendment, you give it to me. [3:37:25] I go for it. [3:37:26] So I wanted to package them together. [3:37:28] So give me one. [3:37:29] I wouldn't be misleading you into believing. [3:37:32] I'm going to vote for one. [3:37:33] It's a package of four. [3:37:35] But I wanted to make sure I was clear on that. [3:37:37] Yesterday you were on the line. [3:37:40] You mean I've heard. [3:37:41] But I had asked for an amendment. [3:37:43] It fell short. [3:37:44] And so I had to I want out of clarity. [3:37:47] I want to announce that I would not be voting for it. [3:37:50] Not because I was angry. [3:37:52] But because I didn't want to mislead anybody. [3:37:55] At that point when I announced I wasn't going to vote for it. [3:37:59] You may have wanted to reverse and not give a partial. [3:38:03] Because the partial wasn't going to earn my vote. [3:38:06] So that's where I am today. [3:38:08] I'd love for you to accept those items and I'd love to vote for this. [3:38:12] And I'd love to campaign for on my own time. [3:38:17] Not in county office. [3:38:19] I would love to campaign for this. [3:38:21] Because I do think the ethics committee is really important. [3:38:25] I think having the independent, truly independent, [3:38:28] Auditor is really important. [3:38:30] I think the ideas that you presented were excellent. [3:38:37] I just didn't think were there yet for solving the problem. [3:38:40] And I think this would bring in home. [3:38:43] So thank you. [3:38:45] Thank you very much. [3:38:46] You know, I don't want to speak for the second day of the motion. [3:38:49] I know for myself as a maker of the motion. [3:38:52] I would not feel comfortable at the sort of late stage taking such a significant amendment [3:38:58] after all the feedback from the community and the participatory process. [3:39:03] But I do really appreciate the spirit in which it was offered. [3:39:08] It was offered and I also would note that there's a huge amount of work that's going to need [3:39:15] to be done to implement all of this starter reform. [3:39:19] And that work is going to be the responsibility of the working group. [3:39:25] So I would respectfully ask you to just really consider that. [3:39:31] That this is provides a path to potentially implement these reforms, [3:39:36] but it doesn't mandate how they would be implemented. [3:39:39] And so there would still be quite a bit of space to implement suggestions along the lines that you've just outlined [3:39:45] in how the charter reform is implemented over the next two years. [3:39:49] So again, would love to invite you to join us and take the good with the good and acknowledge that, [3:39:56] you know, not necessarily want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, [3:40:00] but I also understand if that's not where you're at. [3:40:03] But this has definitely not been an easy journey. [3:40:06] There's been a lot of different opinions. [3:40:09] And nobody I think has gotten everything that they've wanted. [3:40:13] I think everyone's gotten a little bit of what they've wanted along the way. [3:40:16] And that's really been sort of my commitment and trying to put this together. [3:40:20] But again, I don't want to speak for my colleagues if people have a different view. [3:40:25] Very open. [3:40:29] I just I don't know if we had an extensive discussion last time. [3:40:34] So we hear everything you're saying. [3:40:37] I was just like to say on the record because I know in the event that anything is challenged. [3:40:43] The record also is important, including the vote. [3:40:46] So in the event that this passes today and in the event that it passes in November, [3:40:50] we don't know if it will. [3:40:54] My understanding of the of the term limits is that it's in a like no person can serve more than 12 years. [3:41:02] That's my understanding. [3:41:03] I just want to put that on the record so that if there is any are there any legal challenges that's my understanding. [3:41:10] It's now on the record. [3:41:13] I think in that vein it would probably be worth clarifying that that with County Council. [3:41:18] I see sure here just to make sure that that is clear both in terms of the language is drafted but also the intent. [3:41:26] I don't want there to be any confusion. [3:41:29] So damn it's here if you need a moment we can we can wait but if that's if you have that in front of you if you could clarify whether there's any real risk that this could be interpreted as somehow resetting the clock. [3:41:43] And providing anyone three additional terms or whether it's fairly clear from from both comments on the dice and the written. [3:41:51] A content of the charter that it would it would only be one it would only be one additional term it would be three max. [3:41:58] Thank you chair lost remember the way that the language is written is to reflect that it would be a total of three terms 12 years. [3:42:09] So that if any supervisor is currently in the midst of one or two terms it would not be an additional three terms on top of that. [3:42:16] I can defer to my colleagues here if she has a specific language or other things she'd like to read to make that clear but that is the way that it has been drafted. [3:42:29] Well the attorneys could care one of your four concerns but go ahead. [3:42:33] If you want the additional language there's a provision in the proposed 401.5 that makes clear that a supervisor service and office prior to the effect of data the amendment counts toward the three term limit. [3:42:48] If I may is there any key it's law that supports this because it hasn't been tested in courgette. [3:42:58] I think the concern you are raising has to do with retroactivity and our research of the case law is that this provision written in this manner is not considered retroactive because it doesn't change anything that has already happened as an additional term going forward. [3:43:15] I pull the entire state where the first to do this no one's ever done it. [3:43:20] The legal opinions I've received when I was in the state legislature were hurt then it will be struck down in court. [3:43:27] That's why nobody's done it. [3:43:29] There's not to say it can't be done but there but it's not been tested in court and good attorneys get struck down in court all the time. [3:43:38] Laws get struck down in court all the time. [3:43:41] So if it were to be struck down what would happen at that point would that not lead to three more terms. [3:43:51] I mean a total three additional terms if it were struck down in court. [3:43:59] Excuse me. [3:44:00] Supervisor Amsterdam you saying if the measure itself is this is. [3:44:04] This is permanent this element of the measure because I think there's a silverability clause right so. [3:44:09] I think I can try to answer with the current can correct me. [3:44:12] My understanding is it would revert to what we have currently it would be two terms because if it struck down in court it would be struck down and then you go back to what's already an existence. [3:44:21] It would be struck down in the union of with twenty terms it would be struck down in back to two terms. [3:44:26] I like because it is not twenty terms twenty. [3:44:29] You'd be applicable. [3:44:31] Twelve years moving forward. [3:44:34] So if it was sued and they said you can't. [3:44:37] No because it because the term the the language itself would be struck down and so you go back to what you. [3:44:43] We don't really know I hear your point but the several so we would go back to what is currently the law. [3:44:50] You wouldn't create new new we don't know that specifically though. [3:44:55] We think that's what's going to happen but there there is still a chance that. [3:45:00] It's just never been tested in all the term limits throughout the count, you know, throughout the state. No one's ever done it before, because nobody wanted to run this risk. I get it, you know, it's moving forward, but it's not guaranteed. [3:45:16] Did anyone have any additional thank you for your clarification? Any additional questions or comments from anybody? Okay, we can call the vote. [3:45:31] Chair Lawson, remember that motion passes with supervisor Anderson and supervisor Desmond Voting. No, although the supervisor is being present in voting aye. [3:45:39] Okay, thank you all so much. Okay, so we will now move on to item 10. I'm sorry. Item 11. We already did 10. Certification, the certification of the initiative petition measure to fund Sandy Grafany Health and Safety Services. [3:46:01] Do we need to have any kind of presentation or anything else? Do you see, okay, great. Thank you. [3:46:08] Good afternoon. Chair Lawson, remember the board. No presentation, but I do have a brief statement to read into the record. [3:46:16] The registrar voters has certified the Citizens Initiative petition titled Measure to Fund Sandy Eagle County Health and Safety Services. [3:46:24] By law, the board must submit the measures voters without alteration. The measure is a 0.5% sales tax with revenues dedicated as follows. [3:46:33] 22.5% of the revenue to the Tijuana River Valley sewage mitigation, 17.5% to public safety and wildfire prevention, and 60% to health care, child care and nutrition. [3:46:46] The measure requires a 12 member oversight committee independent audits and prohibits uses such as salaries and lobbyists. The measure requires a majority vote to pass. [3:46:58] There are two options in the recommendations. Option one, adopt the resolution to place it on the November 3, 2021 ballot today. Option two, order an impact report, do within 30 days and schedule a special meeting to adopt the election resolution. [3:47:16] Under elections code, section 1405, the resolution calling the election must be issued at least 88 days before election day. [3:47:24] That deadline is August 7th, 2021, which would require a special board meeting sometime between July 25 and August 7th, 2021, if option two is chosen. [3:47:36] In addition to these two options, the board has the discretion to direct the auditor to review the initiative measure and prepare a fiscal impact statement. [3:47:44] The other must provide the fiscal impact statement to the registrar voters by no later than August 14, which is printed in the voter information guide and limited to 500 words. [3:47:59] I also want to note for the record that under government code section 25207, the board retains the authority to order a report at any time independently of the elections code options before you today. [3:48:10] This means that even outside the 30-day impact report process under election code 9111, the board may request an additional analysis it believes is necessary to support its deliberations. [3:48:22] Thank you, that concludes my summer at the side. [3:48:25] Okay, we'll go to public comment. [3:48:28] Thank you chair last the remer, we have 15 requests to speak on the side of 4 in person and 11 requesting to speak by phone. [3:48:34] Also, for the record that we received one e-comment in opposition. [3:48:38] For any individuals that requested speak on item 11 by phone, please dial in the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you. [3:48:45] We'll begin with the in-person speakers. [3:48:47] As your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until register to speak at the podium. [3:48:51] You will have one minute to address the board. [3:48:53] We'll be calling a group of three, so like to invite for the first three individuals, allegedly Audra Marco Espinoza and Crystal Irving. [3:49:04] Again, please stay tuned for the Audra record. [3:49:07] I need to call a point of order for what is taking place. [3:49:11] You were just talking about transparency and accountability and I would like to put you on notice to change your board policy to follow the law. [3:49:19] And, Dean, this is something that you should be addressing because it is a violation of not only our first amendment but the Brown Act. [3:49:26] That's under two constitutions, which supersedes your board policy. [3:49:31] And, under the supremacy clause, under the due process, it's the law of the land to have the first amendment. [3:49:37] So if I want to say, put the, if I want to say, cracker, whatever it is, even if it's criticizing a person, that is legal to do. [3:49:47] So you're setting yourself up for litigation because you are violating the law by saying that you're following your board policy by restricting my speech. [3:49:59] You've continued to do it. [3:50:01] So I would like an answer from Damon regarding this because this is a violation of law and you know it. [3:50:08] Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. [3:50:13] Quick speaker, please. [3:50:15] All right. [3:50:16] Crystal Irving, president of FBIU, local 221, speaking in favor of this item. [3:50:20] We were proud to join a coalition that brought this initiative to Sandy Agans. [3:50:24] And over 150,000 Sandy Agans added their signatures to the effort to successfully qualify for the ballot. [3:50:30] The citizen's led initiative will address that he want to river toxic sewage crisis with the first ever local infrastructure upgrades. [3:50:40] It'll protect access to affordable healthcare in the face of Washington severe cuts, establish and a substantial first ever local investment in child care, [3:50:49] and strengthen wildfire response for every community in San Diego County. [3:50:54] This measure also includes independent oversight, public disclosure, and strict prohibitions on any funds going to elected official salaries or lobbyist contracts. [3:51:03] Now, we recognize that today's vote is merely procedural, but I want to highlight that I think it's appropriate. [3:51:08] It's being discussed on the same day as budget deliberations when we see the impacts of HR1 and the Trump administration, and we know it's going to get worse. [3:51:16] So again, for this vote, thank you. [3:51:19] I'd like to invite for the remaining speakers in person, Michelle Krug and Oliver Twist. [3:51:27] Marcos, Nosa. [3:51:29] I mean, yes, on this one. [3:51:32] Thank you. I'll go back. [3:51:38] I'd like to speak to your please. [3:51:44] Good afternoon again. I did actually mean to precede my remarks before by welcoming back terror loss and congratulations and welcome back. [3:51:56] I am very glad that we collected enough signatures to get this on the ballot. [3:52:04] This money is direly needed. [3:52:07] You, on the diet, know that better than us. [3:52:12] This money will really make a difference or changes that I'd love to see with county medical services. [3:52:19] Obviously, the T.O. on a river basin is a major impact in our community. [3:52:26] So I'm very glad to see that we, you know, this is ready to be authorized. [3:52:33] I hope that you will just accept it. Thank you. [3:52:38] Thank you. Next speaker. [3:52:44] Hi. Good afternoon, Oliver Twist. [3:52:47] I'm adamantly opposed to this. [3:52:49] And I don't think we should have any new taxes in San Diego, either in the city or the county. [3:52:54] You're fiscally irresponsible. [3:52:57] You're growing government to big 33% growth in five years and a 12 to 13% in county staff. [3:53:06] And it's just too much. [3:53:08] And we don't need more taxes because look what happened in Valville Park. [3:53:11] They, when they like socialism, you end up running out of other people's money. [3:53:15] And then you start charging for parking. [3:53:17] Bixie infrastructure and the things that you're supposed to be working on. [3:53:21] And what I would really appreciate is a lot more fiscal pragmatism. [3:53:24] People don't understand they hear progress. [3:53:26] All the ideas sound so good. [3:53:28] So feel good. [3:53:29] But what you're really there is to grow government. [3:53:32] Grow your county staff. [3:53:33] Grow your union membership. [3:53:35] So compete in the cycle of political donations. [3:53:39] So rule pragmatically. [3:53:41] Focus on the Mao's low hierarchy. [3:53:44] And fix what needs fixing first. [3:53:46] Thank you. [3:53:47] Thank you. [3:53:48] Well, here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone. [3:53:51] It was over their first call there. [3:53:58] Here comes a pollabold. [3:54:01] Here comes another tax. [3:54:03] But the tax is how many projects and items. [3:54:07] This is what's the fund. [3:54:09] There's a new committee for pretty much everything for you. [3:54:13] Fans of new BRR. [3:54:16] Of course it has something for everyone. [3:54:19] But what tiny percent of your sales tax will go to. [3:54:23] You're favored. [3:54:25] So you're a half percent additional tax on transactions. [3:54:30] Excluding property or fuel. [3:54:33] It's supposed to fund eight main items and many smaller projects. [3:54:38] Quite always. [3:54:39] How many will we project get? [3:54:43] Two hundred percent or less. [3:54:46] The taxes will be put into the protect. [3:54:49] San Diego, campus, health and safety fund. [3:54:52] You'll be as the solely funded central canvetericism. [3:54:57] It's a new proof. [3:54:59] The quality of lives. [3:55:01] The county was a bunch of. [3:55:04] Yeah. [3:55:05] The next caller. [3:55:07] Okay. [3:55:12] I'm slow here and. [3:55:14] All the slaves in favor of bigger government say I. [3:55:20] Come on. [3:55:21] Call it what it is. [3:55:23] This item is so. [3:55:24] It's to further keep the people under the rules. [3:55:27] Some of big government to further keep them under the illusion that government is taking care of everything. [3:55:33] Take care of them when it's all about more taxes and more control. [3:55:38] This item will pass with the majority being the three queen. [3:55:43] Curves and tacos. [3:55:47] And yeah. [3:55:49] It's just. [3:55:50] We're unbelievable shit. [3:55:52] I'm from this dyes. [3:55:56] Done. [3:56:00] Thank you. [3:56:01] I hope you're here from the next caller. [3:56:15] Next caller is Terry Scully. [3:56:19] I'm hoping can speak on item 13, not 11. [3:56:23] Back to you for that item. [3:56:25] Thank you. [3:56:26] Good afternoon. [3:56:38] My name is Becky Rapp and. [3:56:41] I recognize that. [3:56:44] The voters have demonstrated sufficient support for this measure to bring it forward. [3:56:49] And at this stage, the county's responsibility is to ensure transparency and clarity about what the measure does. [3:56:55] And how it would be implemented. [3:56:58] I strongly encourage the board to ensure the fiscal impact statement. [3:57:05] And related materials. [3:57:07] And that they clearly. [3:57:09] Explain not only what services may be funded, but what gas still remain is funding is sufficient. [3:57:16] I'm concerned that this health and safety services must include. [3:57:21] Some upstream investment in youth prevention, especially youth drug prevention type of marijuana use as well as early intervention for mental health conditions associated with substance use. [3:57:33] We're seeing increasing pressure on emergency department schools and child welfare systems and prevention is consistently. [3:57:41] You have the next caller. [3:57:50] I'm sure it's a certain a woman. [3:57:52] Money not cut. [3:57:54] But it's not. [3:57:56] But it's my free expression and it's still matters legally. [3:58:00] There's no other item in doors for union such as F.I.U. [3:58:03] Signed by Crystal Irving. [3:58:05] Who have funded the benefitors of this tax such as Manuel of Loma. [3:58:09] Who wants America to pay for Mexico sewage forever. [3:58:12] Grifter. [3:58:13] Cal fires on a grid because they want to cut further salary. [3:58:16] Selfish. [3:58:17] The county claims the petition contains a sufficient number of valid signatures. [3:58:20] But we know that's not true. [3:58:21] We've seen the viral video that a homeless drug addict being paid in dollar bills, cigarettes, and drugs to sign these and other petitions. [3:58:27] Nobody actually wants more taxes. [3:58:29] Nobody's voting for this fraud. [3:58:30] I just mentioned this petition going around about two months ago. [3:58:33] You want people to believe they got millions of signatures in that short time frame. [3:58:37] When people ask them if they were getting paid to collect signatures. [3:58:40] And they admitted, yes, they were. [3:58:42] This is 100% stony, which man is many specializes in. [3:58:46] And it's 100% fraud, which terror specializes in them. [3:58:49] Shame on you corrupt. [3:58:51] You hear from a son of color. [3:58:54] Can. [3:58:56] Well, here we go with another line. [3:58:58] I always know it is when the purple shirts turn up to speak begging for it. [3:59:07] They're flowering words. [3:59:09] We must have a page fee trader. [3:59:12] Anyway, no new tax. [3:59:14] This is a scam. [3:59:15] It's interesting that on item 10 that was passed. [3:59:18] That terror said that the implementation plan was not ready yet. [3:59:22] That it will be left up to the working team. [3:59:24] So how do we know this new tax will be implemented according to what is written here. [3:59:29] Anything for health and safety services? [3:59:33] Why aren't to look up fire? [3:59:35] They're not being used because they're in poor state. [3:59:38] Why, why were they not already maintained? [3:59:41] So this is a scam. [3:59:42] This is to get money to put into a pet peeve pet project. [3:59:45] Not to do anything for the county. [3:59:47] But. [4:00:00] You have no idea how you're going to use it. And why does one group get more money on another group doesn't? How does that work? [4:00:07] Thank you. I'm a chair-loss-and-remor that concludes public comment on this item. [4:00:12] Okay, thank you very much. I have a couple comments. Do any of my colleagues have anything to say? [4:00:18] I'll say can just make a motion. Happy to do that. [4:00:22] Seeing no requests for my colleagues to speak, I'll just make a couple remarks on this. [4:00:28] I just first of all want to express my gratitude to the leadership of so many folks who put this together. [4:00:38] So thank you for your work. It's a lot of signatures together. [4:00:43] It's a lot of work. And there's a lot of people who obviously really want to see this measure considered by the voters in November. [4:00:53] You know, that's just a lot of people to sign this ballot measure. So I hear that. [4:01:02] And I think that to me, this is real evidence that people in San Diego are deeply, deeply concerned about the Tijuana sewage disaster [4:01:14] about the devastating cuts to health care and food assistance that are community facing. [4:01:21] And that people remain very committed to making sure that our 911 emergency response can be the best and can keep us safe in even the worst conditions [4:01:36] and even if the worst and most unthinkable happens to our communities. [4:01:41] And we began this conversation, I think, you know, over a year and a half ago, when, in my state of the county, I mentioned my deep concerns about what was coming out. [4:01:54] So what was coming towards our community in a new Trump administration. [4:01:59] And I think this San Diego County Health and Safety Services initiative rises to meet that moment. [4:02:05] It offers voters a powerful tool that people can choose to support, to protect our community, to defend our community, to keep our water clean, to keep our hospitals open, and to make sure firefighters and first responders have the tools that they need to keep us safe. [4:02:24] Our job today is extremely straightforward. This is the Citizens Qualified Initiative and the voters must decide on this bound measure that has been placed, or is being proposed to be placed on the ballot by the signatures of hundreds of thousands of voters. [4:02:43] So our role is not to adopt this measure ourselves. We really only can and must, from an administrative standpoint, Joan Cracken from Wrong, just put this on the ballot. [4:02:55] I think my only concern is to ensure that the language is clear and accurate and sufficient. We do want to ensure that voters have clear information so that they can make an informed decision. [4:03:11] I think that's really our only role here is to ensure that the language is clear and that the impact on our community is clear. [4:03:19] Because the information will be placed directly on the ballot. [4:03:23] So with that, I would like to make the following motion, and I think, Andrew, you have the strength to change this. [4:03:33] That is to approve recommendation number one and then to approve recommendation number two option number one, with the following clarifying amendment to the ballot question in the attachment de-resolution to ensure as much transparency as possible [4:03:52] for the voters to have clear and accurate information. So this is a funny one, but I was reading this in a lot of folks where not quite sure exactly what the word mitigate meant. [4:04:05] It seemed like a hundred dollar word and we could probably have used a Tencent word. So if we could just replace the word mitigate with clean up so that people actually know what is being written here and they're not confused. [4:04:20] Similarly, another, maybe this is a thousand dollar word instead of a Tencent word, I don't need to know that we need to confuse people with the term retail transaction and use tax. [4:04:30] Like, I don't know what that is exactly. Just I think we can call it what it is, which is a sales tax. [4:04:36] And then seems very important to add that manual amount to be raised until ended by voters. [4:04:44] My understanding that that was an oversight in the drafting of this ballot question by county council because it's legally required to include that. [4:04:55] And so that, and I know that it's estimated raised 400 to 450,000. So 400 to 450 million. [4:05:03] So that needs to be in there for transparency purposes and then take no action on recommendation three. [4:05:12] So that's my motion and yeah, hope to have support for my colleagues. Thank you. [4:05:22] Thank you. I'm sure I appreciate it. I just something now's a right time to put a half cents sales tax in front of the people. [4:05:32] It's, you know, the cost of everything is already way too high. [4:05:36] We're always surprised and you go to the grocery store or you go, you know, by clothes or cars. [4:05:41] Everything's just gone up and up and up. [4:05:45] Tax is my understanding. There's no end to it. It's a forever tax. There's going to be no end to this. [4:05:51] I agree with something, you know, the tea you want to river definitely needs to be dealt with. [4:05:55] But I do think we got to be putting the pressure on Mexico. [4:05:58] We can not just throw more and more US money after after that catastrophe that's happening down there. [4:06:06] We got to get them to stop and make sure they keep their end of the bargain up and creating the infrastructure that they need on their side. [4:06:12] I think we have to put pressure on them as opposed to just putting more money after this. [4:06:17] I could support this if we went with item number one and two with option two, not option one. [4:06:24] You know, we're talking about impact, we're talking about, you know, responsibility transparency. [4:06:31] I think if we had an impact report, which is option two, to then come back within 30 days after we see an impact report, [4:06:39] because I think that would be helpful to the citizens before they vote on it. [4:06:44] I realized today we're just putting it yes or no on the ballot. [4:06:48] I'm not going to be supporting this tax, but I would like to have the impact report. [4:06:53] So I'd like to see if you'd be open to choosing option two out of recommendation number two, then I could support it. [4:07:05] Did you, um, in your proposal on option two, I suppose, doesn't, it says this option requires the board to schedule special meeting, [4:07:13] sometime between July 25th and August 7th. [4:07:16] What day did you want to have that meeting? [4:07:18] I don't, um, late July. [4:07:22] I birthed this July 27th. [4:07:25] You want to be four after? [4:07:28] Well, I can tell you July 27th is a Monday, so I don't think you're going to want to be meeting on the Saturday. [4:07:34] I could, I could do, um, I don't care. [4:07:39] Okay. [4:07:40] Well, we think about it. [4:07:41] Okay. [4:07:42] It's obviously tossed out there. [4:07:43] Okay. [4:07:44] I support option one. [4:07:45] It doesn't change my, my, my, I support option one, but just wanted to make sure that if you're supporting option two, [4:07:50] that it's a full proposal that folks can think about because it would have to, we have to calendar that. [4:07:57] Thank you. [4:08:00] Um, I just want to say that regardless where people stand on the substance of this proposal, this is the democratic process. [4:08:09] And this has been an initiative that's put been put forward by the citizens. [4:08:14] Our registrar of voters has certified that the petition qualifies. [4:08:19] I think the fact that so many people signed on to this petition knowing full what it is is a reflection of the sentiment, [4:08:25] of our region. [4:08:26] And I think, especially, I just want to speak obviously to the Tijuana River. [4:08:30] I think that all of us, whether you live literally in the affected area and, and our suffering, [4:08:36] the harms of this pollution every single day in your daily life through being sick or losing work or losing school. [4:08:47] The reality is that the fixes aren't happening fast enough. [4:08:52] Mexico is not doing enough. [4:08:55] Trump is not doing enough, Biden didn't do enough. [4:08:58] And that's just the reality. [4:08:59] Nobody's done enough, and that's why we're here. [4:09:01] And I see it as a way of the people of San Diego County taking the bull by their horns and bringing a real source of revenue that could truly bring relief. [4:09:14] We've made our efforts, and I'm thankful to the board for the efforts that we're making, [4:09:18] but that's like I said many times, it's not going to solve the issue. [4:09:22] Something of this caliber, something of this size can. [4:09:27] And that's the most important thing, because if we wait for fixes alone to come from Mexico, we're going to be here 20 years, 30 years from now. [4:09:38] And there's going to be people who have died from cancer, there's going to be people who have died from pneumonia, [4:09:42] there's going to be people who have died from other ailments that all of this contamination has a capacity to cause. [4:09:49] So we don't keep our foot off the pedal, we continue to pressure Mexico, we continue to pressure this administration, [4:09:57] we continue to pressure the state as well. [4:09:59] There's been a lot of work that's gone on that my team and myself have done advocating for money to come from the state as well in the last six months. [4:10:09] But the reality is it's not enough, the people have spoken, this is a high priority for them, and we should just let the process move forward. [4:10:19] Thank you. [4:10:22] Vice Chairman, can we stop? [4:10:24] Yes, just briefly, I want to thank the ROV for the work that goes in to certifying the initiative petition. [4:10:31] Thank you for that. [4:10:32] And congratulations to the coalition for securing enough signatures to make this ballot measure a reality. [4:10:39] The issues that this measure addresses are critically important for providing quality of life we all deserve. [4:10:45] We just been discussing that for the entire day. [4:10:48] So they are important, that doesn't mean that we know the fate of the measure in November. [4:10:56] But I will continue to work with my colleagues and community partners to protect healthcare and prove childcare public safety, address it to you on a river sewage crisis. [4:11:07] No matter what happens, but this is something that we, I think, can look forward to seeing where the county is when it comes to these issues and how the vote will be reflected there. [4:11:19] So thank you again, everyone, and I think this is more so procedural matter for us. [4:11:24] So with that, I'll go ahead and second, option one. [4:11:29] Okay, we have a motion on four and a second. [4:11:32] Please vote. [4:11:34] Again, Sheryl Austin, I just want to know for the record that we added in the word annually as you noted in your remarks into the ballot question. [4:11:43] I like that on the screen. [4:11:46] Okay, and before we do, it's clarifying that we really have to put this on the ballot. [4:11:51] So it's just a problem, a question of how, but not whether we do it or not. [4:11:56] So, so make sure that's clear for the record. [4:11:59] Thank you. [4:12:00] And Sheryl Austin, remember that motion passes with supervisor Anderson, it's supervisor Desmond voting. [4:12:05] No, all of the supervisors being present 10, 49. [4:12:08] Okay, thank you very much. [4:12:12] So we will now move on to our next item. [4:12:15] And this is an item that has been brought forward by district four. [4:12:21] It's item 12. [4:12:22] Authorizing partner food distribution pilots at strategic kind of facilities and hiding areas. [4:12:27] To mitigate California's work of requirement displacements. [4:12:30] I sure do, would you like to make some introductory remarks? [4:12:35] I will. [4:12:36] Okay. [4:12:37] Yes, thank you so much for the opportunity. [4:12:38] Thank you to county staff in our community partners for your important work on the few food distribution component of the safety net bridge program. [4:12:46] Access to good nutritional food is a key determinative health. [4:12:50] Food is medicine tragically and estimated 93,500 members of our community are at risk of losing access to that medicine, which is food. [4:13:01] And to a happier healthier life due to the new Calfresh work reporting requirements imposed by HR1. [4:13:08] This federally mandated change is anticipated to increase food insecurity in every county district. [4:13:14] The proposed action before the board today is designed to address that anticipated food insecurity by targeting the 16 zip codes where families are expected to be hit the hardest. [4:13:25] We would be utilizing existing county facilities and partnering with the San Diego Food Bank and feeding San Diego for emergency food distribution event to support hunger relief efforts. [4:13:36] It also supports onsite benefit enrollment and supplemental resources provided by dedicated county staff as a part of the safety net bridge program. [4:13:45] We know these wraparound services are crucial to assisting families looking for long-term food security and stabilization resources. [4:13:54] During a time of significant change. This is also funding for there's also funding for potential home delivery services and for distribution through other trusted community providers so that the county can stay nimble in addressing any service gaps that may be identified after program rollout. [4:14:13] We built in program flexibility so that we can best meet the needs of our residents as those needs evolve. [4:14:21] Staff will monitor and review reporting on an ongoing basis ensuring optimal utilization of county resources. [4:14:28] Supporting this proposed action will help prevent families in our communities from having to make tough decisions like food versus housing and food versus health care. [4:14:38] It's both a moral and just action to support our neighbors in their time of need. [4:14:43] So I hope my colleagues will support this item today and I can make the motion now that's fine but I can also wait until after public comment. [4:15:00] I thank you very much. Would you like to first go to public comment or have board discussion? [4:15:05] Because we have people on the board who want to talk, but we can just go to public comment and do board discussion. [4:15:10] Yeah, that would be okay. [4:15:11] Okay. [4:15:12] Well, apologies, Supervisor Anderson. We'll go to public comment and then we'll go to you. [4:15:17] Okay. [4:15:18] Thank you, Chair Lawson. We have 30 requests to speak on this item. [4:15:21] 13 in person and 17 in requesting to speak by phone. [4:15:24] Also, no for the record that we receive three e-commence, one and support in one neutral. [4:15:29] For any individuals that requested to speak on item 12 by phone, please dial in to the conference on using the instructions that were provided to you. [4:15:36] We'll begin with the in-person speakers. [4:15:38] As your name is called, please come forward and stand on the arrows until it is your turn to speak at the podium. [4:15:43] You will have one minute to address the board and I'll ask you to begin by stating your name for the audio record. [4:15:49] I will call you in groups of three, so please listen for your name. [4:15:54] I'd like to invite for the first three individuals, Sam Duke, Noah Yee-Yek and Karina Pew. [4:16:00] If I have caught your name, please come forward. [4:16:12] Good afternoon, my name is Sam Duke. I'm a director of programs at feeding San Diego representing families who are having to choose between groceries and gas between rent and food for their families. [4:16:23] Rising costs have pushed working families to the breaking point they've never faced before. [4:16:28] Last month that our school pantry at duly elementary, serving primary and military families, a mother of three told me that the food she's receiving means her family has dinner for that evening. [4:16:38] Earlier this month, new snap cuts may force even more San Diego families into food insecurity. [4:16:44] You're funding approval today would do more than just feed hungry families, though that alone is transformational. [4:16:50] These dollars would allow us to strategically strengthen and expand our distribution network that helps increase food rescue and provide more nutritious food year-round. [4:16:59] Right now, food assistance is increasing every single day. [4:17:02] Last month, we served over half a million San Diego's across the county. [4:17:06] The families we serve can't vote on this today, but they are counting on your leadership on behalf of feeding San Diego and the thousands of families we see. [4:17:15] Good afternoon, Supervisors. [4:17:23] My name is Noah Yek, I'm a researcher with the Center on Policy Initiatives. [4:17:26] There are times of charm today. [4:17:28] We urge you to vote yes on item 12 and advance the food access component of the safety net bridge program. [4:17:35] Nutrition security is a human right. [4:17:37] Addiquit nutrition helps people stay healthy, care for their families and live with dignity. [4:17:42] Right now, thousands of San Diego's are losing access to nutrition assistance or at risk of losing it because of federal cuts. [4:17:49] We cannot allow cruel decisions in Washington to harm San Diego's. [4:17:53] The food distribution pilot before you provide a strategic targeted response and includes measures to monitor outcomes and ensure support is meeting our communities needs. [4:18:02] The state unit bridge program is how we put our values into action. [4:18:05] It says that in San Diego County no one should go hungry, no one should go without care and we take care of each other. [4:18:12] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [4:18:15] Thank you for three additional speakers. [4:18:17] Allegedly, Aura, Doyle Morrison and Alicia Morrison. [4:18:20] Good afternoon, Supervisors. [4:18:22] It's Korean appeal again. My pronouns are she her. [4:18:25] I'm here today on behalf of the San Diego LGBT Community Center asking you all to vote in support of this item. [4:18:31] As we continue to see the painful impacts of HR1 and the significant cuts to programs that keep our communities. [4:18:37] That house and otherwise supported in an increasingly difficult economy. [4:18:41] We are seeing LGBTQ folks disproportionately experiencing the impacts of these cuts. [4:18:46] At our center, our food banks and other programs supporting food assistance are experiencing higher volumes of traffic than we've seen ever before. [4:18:53] This item is the county's opportunity to be a bold leader investing county dollars to mitigate the harms from these cuts. [4:18:59] Please vote in support of this item to keep San Diego's fed and thank you to Vice Chair Montgomery. [4:19:04] Thank you. [4:19:09] Thank you. [4:19:12] Hello, Doyle Morrison. [4:19:13] I'm in favor of this food distribution, but consideration for eligibility based on zip codes is problematic. [4:19:19] In the San Diego County, many unincorporated communities rely on zip codes assigned by two nearby incorporated cities. [4:19:28] Meaning their mail says the city name, but they are governed and taxed by the county rather than the city. [4:19:33] Notable unincorporated areas with city affiliated zip codes are beneath a cost of the or a ranch or San Diego for a vx Ranch LaPresse and Lincoln acres. [4:19:41] These communities zip codes are not listed in this agenda item material as high impact zip code served. [4:19:49] The unincorporated communities are governed and taxed by the county rather than the city. [4:19:54] Please do not exclude some of the most vulnerable communities from the benefits they are in need of. [4:19:58] Thank you. [4:20:01] Next speaker. [4:20:07] Good afternoon, Alicia Morrison. [4:20:10] I support this, but there's a problem. [4:20:14] The problem is disparity to the community of Lincoln acres since the deprecation of the Lincoln acres post office in 2011. [4:20:22] Lincoln acres has to share a zip code 91950 with a city in national city. [4:20:27] Lincoln acres is not national city. [4:20:30] Lincoln acres has it had its own zip code 91947 that was established in 1925. [4:20:37] In your placement of this just strategic facilities, I'm requesting Lincoln acres community room in Lincoln acres be placed on your list of facilities. [4:20:46] So those in 91950 can benefit. [4:20:50] Do not deprive Lincoln acres from county programs acknowledge 91950 for this program. [4:20:56] Thank you. [4:21:00] Thank you. [4:21:01] As the next speaker is coming forward. [4:21:03] I'll invite three additional speakers. [4:21:05] Marco Espinoza Andrea called well and Edward Nietto. [4:21:11] Hopefully nobody lights a match because the gasoline you being dousing the people in will go up in flames. [4:21:18] It's interesting you talk about clear and accurate information. [4:21:21] And then Monica you're saying that food is medicine. [4:21:25] Does your bending machine reflect that? [4:21:27] No, it does not, but it's cool because it's all about making money, right? [4:21:31] And it's just interesting the way you like to pull the heart strings of people and act like, you know, this is promises. [4:21:37] I don't want you guys were engaged and giving benefits to people who came across the border illegally. [4:21:43] You know what you're doing by eating a bedding and now the people are suffering the consequences because it actually made it harder for people that need it to get it because of your choices. [4:21:54] So you say hearing you talk about transparency and accountability and giving clear and accurate information. [4:22:00] Let's be real with the people. [4:22:02] And let's be real that you cannot silence free speech. [4:22:07] No matter what you think, no matter what policy you put in place. [4:22:11] Next speaker plays. [4:22:16] Marco Espinoza, I'm in favor. [4:22:19] I do know a little bit about this. [4:22:22] I watch KPBS. [4:22:25] And they recently had the American on it. [4:22:29] I'm mentioning how HR1's new limitations had started effective one this month, the first of this month. [4:22:38] And they've already seen it up to. [4:22:41] HR1 will we will as the months go on we'll see more of the effects. [4:22:46] So while the need has has grown now. [4:22:51] Well, I'm sure there's better way to say that. [4:22:53] But anyways, I think this is the great measure to help those who are in need and getting the negative impacts of HR1. [4:23:03] So thank you for this measure. [4:23:05] Thank you. [4:23:07] Next speaker, please. [4:23:09] Good afternoon. [4:23:10] Andrea called well with the Jacobs and Christmas San Diego food ping, which is the region's leading [4:23:14] hunger relief organization. [4:23:16] We serve every community here in San Diego County. [4:23:19] Each month we help on average 400,000 San Diego and across access nutritious food. [4:23:25] So we are already seeing the impacts of these federal policy changes. [4:23:29] In May 83% of our emergency food assistance partners requested more food than the [4:23:34] month before. [4:23:36] So they were getting an average of 27% more food in just 30 days. [4:23:40] And our client choice pantry is also serving more people than any other point in this year. [4:23:45] The county's safety net bridge program will help ensure food remains available to residents, [4:23:50] especially in communities where data indicates there is an expected need to grow. [4:23:56] And the food bank has a long standing commitment to using data to direct resources where they are [4:24:01] in need and most and we commit to using 100% of these funds if approved to purchase food. [4:24:07] We strongly support this and thank you. [4:24:10] Thank you. [4:24:11] The next speaker is coming forward. [4:24:12] I'd like to invite the remaining speakers in person. [4:24:14] Alejandro Martinez. [4:24:16] Omar Ausefie. [4:24:17] Michelle Krug. [4:24:18] And Cynthia Fuller. [4:24:20] Can you? [4:24:21] Yes. [4:24:22] Good afternoon. [4:24:23] My name is Ed Nietto. [4:24:24] I'm appreciative of the county services work proposal in this area. [4:24:28] But I do have a question. [4:24:30] I want to ask, as the others have mentioned here, why wasn't the 9195 zip code included in the significant [4:24:40] local and compopulation names that you have there. [4:24:45] So when I hear the areas that are hit the hardest, not to include national city and there seems to be [4:24:51] little remiss. [4:24:52] I'm asking a question. [4:24:54] If there's a methodology on how you determine this, we'd like to hear it. [4:24:58] It would bring comfort to the community to see how this was decided. [4:25:02] And, you know, specifically what data was used to exclude the national city from the 16 highest [4:25:10] impact zone zip codes. [4:25:13] It's just imported for the citizens to know that we're competing. [4:25:17] We'd like to know what the explanation is. [4:25:19] Thank you. [4:25:22] Next speaker, please. [4:25:27] That's called your name. [4:25:28] Please come down to the arrows. [4:25:30] Thank you. [4:25:32] Good afternoon. [4:25:33] My area used to be with Pana. [4:25:35] The safety net bridge program is an essential program to provide access to meals and health care [4:25:40] to those who no longer receive these basic services. [4:25:43] Thanks to Trump's attack on the poor working class and on immigrants. [4:25:47] As a community level, we have hundreds of people coming to us already telling us that their [4:25:52] Calfresh has been stopped or it's going to stop and they don't know how to feed their families. [4:25:57] No child should go hungry in San Diego. [4:26:01] And, you know, Pana, we host a food bank every week and we see hundreds of families coming there and more programs are really [4:26:10] needed. [4:26:11] These food distribution events will allow the county to respond to immediate needs and build on [4:26:16] an action plan to assist those most in need while simultaneously creating long-term stabilisation [4:26:23] resources. [4:26:24] So we are due to, but yes. [4:26:26] Thank you. [4:26:28] Thank you. [4:26:29] Next speaker, please. [4:26:32] Hi. [4:26:33] Good afternoon, Board of Surveysers. [4:26:35] I'm fully, my name's Alejandro, I'm with Mitsity Can. [4:26:38] I'm fully in support of item 12 food insecurity and vulnerable communities must be mitigated and item 12 does just that. [4:26:45] However, I am deeply disturbed by the hate-filled comments about my district supervisor that apparently has been used several times [4:26:52] that's stated by the person who used this filing, harmful and misogynist language. [4:26:56] Supervisor Jim Desmond and Joe Anderson as men on this board and as men who have sworn to protect the woman that you work with and women in the community. [4:27:04] You must be using platforms you have at your disposal to address racist or misogynist remarks towards your colleagues who I know in the same vein [4:27:11] would protect your personhood. [4:27:13] This isn't about politics. [4:27:14] This is about what's right and where our morality lies as professionals and colleagues in this work. [4:27:19] We are here to work together and uplift one another, not to collaborate, not to tolerate divisive and violent behavior. [4:27:24] That is not what is in our court of ethics, nor what is outlined in the court of civil discourse, which is attached to the county's rules of procedure for these meetings. [4:27:31] Anyone can and should access this document. [4:27:34] Thank you. [4:27:35] Next speaker please. [4:27:47] Michelle Krueg again, I am very much appreciative of this pilot project and the fact that there is that the focus on equity. [4:28:00] I do have heard a couple of concerns. [4:28:06] One of them, I am surprised that National City, Jim Code would not have been one of the 16. [4:28:15] And the other thing is that I have been hearing and I don't know enough about it that South Bay doesn't have enough of the larger refrigerations that are allowed that are capable of. [4:28:29] Accepting pallets of food. [4:28:32] So that there just might be an issue of somehow being able to make sure that each part of the county has that capability and South Bay in particular. [4:28:46] If it doesn't have that, that maybe there's grants or things that we can follow up on. [4:28:51] Thank you. [4:28:55] Good afternoon, supervisors. [4:29:00] I'm Cynthia Kenyona. [4:29:01] I'm speaking today as a former county of San Diego, South region food and security work group co-chair and health activists in the South region for more than 20 years. [4:29:10] In addition to my written comment, I feel compelled to speak on the admission of national city zip code as we've heard from other speakers. [4:29:18] This is an error or perhaps there's a separate plan for national city. [4:29:22] However, without confirmation of either of us speak against the plans written. [4:29:27] There are two key points. [4:29:28] One, the county of San Diego cannot afford to exclude 91950. [4:29:33] And it's planned safety and average actions. [4:29:36] We're one of the most food and secure areas of the county. [4:29:42] It's supported by the most recent reporting from the South region leadership team meeting prepared by county staff. [4:29:51] Secondly, national city warrants direct investment in its food responders and their long critical need for a shared cold storage. [4:30:00] It's been missing. Thank you. [4:30:02] Well, now, here from the individuals that requested to speak my phone. We'll start with our first caller. [4:30:30] A thousand fund events and pay for food staff and facility costs. [4:30:36] Here's me. Hopefully there will be donations. [4:30:41] Because I approve of this proof of using the unlocked reserves for a pilot program, which may or may not work out. [4:30:51] We're sure it should be for what we know will work. [4:30:55] Also, in the care for on head 5, the program would serve different number of zip codes, presumably different number of people at the same cost, which is hiring unlikely. [4:31:11] But another idea would be to hold base of the community garden or farmware. [4:31:17] Thank you. Thank you for the next caller. [4:31:21] Next caller is Consuelo. Your device might be muted. [4:31:36] And Consuelo left the session. We'll go to the next caller. [4:31:48] Good afternoon. Board of supervisors and ripples here. I have some concerns about this as a retired social worker. [4:32:00] The first paragraph of the board letter indicates that 93,500 individuals may face a sudden reduction. [4:32:11] That means there's still plenty of opportunities. And their individuals are not families. We're not talking about children. [4:32:17] We're talking about those who are adults who, for whatever reason, haven't registered or can't register a won't register, but seem to be able to work or to volunteer or to take a class. [4:32:34] So I'm not really sure why we're beholding to 92,000 people who can't or won't do that. [4:32:41] I think we are anticipating something that we don't know has happened and we don't know will happen. [4:32:49] Very fantastic. It's great. [4:32:53] Well, here from the next caller. [4:33:02] It's truth, Tara the million dollar words are eradicate, grift and fraud. [4:33:05] Because we got one million dollars on food fraud going on as an excuse to fund Jacob's Christian crypters with three figure salaries. [4:33:12] The county claims 93,500 individuals may face reduction or elimination of Calfresh Rations, aka government control medicine, like Calfresh taxpayer funded candy bars, [4:33:22] which proves how much fraud is going on with say welfare. [4:33:25] The county claims 314,000 individuals will have to actually work, which proves that there's plenty of able-bodied adults who are lazy and refuse to get a job to take care of themselves. [4:33:34] Racists, ethics, and manuala included. So I counter that the county needs to invest in an independent auditor now. [4:33:41] Has there ever been verification that all of the medical recipients are actually a live or cared for? [4:33:45] Because Rolando Maria concludes and Tara's districts have to know. [4:33:48] Isn't funding by zip code a form of unconstitutional discrimination? [4:33:52] If the county's claim of 407,500 fraudsters was true that it's time for intervention, don't be a leering center, especially when Americans are obese at record rates. [4:34:03] Thank you, here from the next caller. [4:34:14] Good afternoon. My name is Erin Brennan Burke. [4:34:17] On behalf of Family Health Centers of San Diego, speaking in strong support of item number 12, [4:34:22] our team fee every day in our clinics, how reliable access to nutritious food is fundamental to health. [4:34:30] Federal changes under HR1 are already making it harder for patients to enroll in and maintain child fresh benefits. [4:34:37] Even when they are eligible, increasing food insecurity in already vulnerable communities. [4:34:43] We appreciate the Board's proactive efforts to respond before these impacts wereson. [4:34:48] How many collaboration with trusted partners like the food bank and feeding San Diego will help meet the scale of demand and ensure residents in need do not go hungry, especially in highly impacted neighborhoods. [4:35:00] Thank you. [4:35:03] Thank you, here from the next caller. [4:35:12] How funny there's a word mitigated again, and care of things the constituency is ignorant. [4:35:18] Mitigate does not mean enhanced, just read the whole thing, you don't need an explanation or a change of the wording. [4:35:24] I've attended these meeting times five years and the problems are the same and unchanged homelessness due to drugs and mental health issues, hunger marginalized community. [4:35:33] And over the Biden admin millions of illegal immigrants who are not new Americans being granted special privilege and never ending freebie, [4:35:45] draining the county's resources, helping to put us in this problem, regardless of what the Trump administration has done. [4:35:54] This Board policies have failed. [4:35:58] Loading the dollar's wages as evidenced by the same activist in NGOs and curcultures. [4:36:03] They give for money year after year almost meeting after meeting. [4:36:07] Work hours are volunteer hours must be mandatory for the able body single without dependence. [4:36:12] This will help lift these individuals and allow them to exit the stranglehold. [4:36:18] And the next caller. [4:36:26] Hi, Natalie Rushty here. [4:36:28] I stand with a community budget alliance and Leah. [4:36:31] I think it's important that we see people who need to eat regardless of how we got here. [4:36:36] We still are community that needs to work together and people need to eat. [4:36:41] The stress with a no good day center closing. [4:36:45] And these cuts and HR want all of it is getting to the people. [4:36:49] And if you can't eat, it's literally the care rates you mind. [4:36:54] We have to support each other in this rough spot no matter how we got here. [4:36:59] Thank you. [4:37:01] Thank you. [4:37:02] We'll hear from the next caller. [4:37:11] My name is Laura Wilkinson since in the community activist and leadership. [4:37:15] So it's not or first I want to thank all of the supervisors for those on items 10 and especially 11. [4:37:20] The initiative that we've been begging for here in the South Bank. [4:37:23] Item 12. [4:37:24] This pilot facing it is critical for the least amongst us. [4:37:28] I know many active duty military families who get their month and food from food banks. [4:37:34] So many will fall through the cracks in the testing calfresh and your actions here will save lives and the future of children by providing food and adequate nutrition. [4:37:44] I want to thank you for your leadership and improving item 12 assuring that we use our taxpayer funds for the public good. [4:37:51] We don't want San Diego going hungry for whatever reason. [4:37:54] Thank you. [4:37:56] Thank you. [4:37:57] Have a nice call. [4:38:05] Good afternoon. [4:38:08] My name is again. [4:38:09] I live in district four and work with the San Diego refugee communities coalition. [4:38:13] I'm calling to boys are strong support for agenda item 12. [4:38:16] We strongly support the recommendation to partner with trusted community based works especially to carry this work forward. [4:38:22] We know that for refugee immigrant communities. [4:38:24] These partners are really essential for sharing information primary languages and culturally responsive ways. [4:38:30] So that families can really understand and access what they need. [4:38:33] So we urge the county to keep community at the center of implementation to ensure resources reach those most impacted. [4:38:39] Thank you so much for your leadership and consideration. [4:38:43] Thank you. [4:38:44] I'll hear from the next caller. [4:38:52] Good afternoon. [4:38:53] My name is Raymond. [4:38:54] I work with the San Diego refugee communities coalition. [4:38:57] I'm calling today to voice my support for this item, especially because it really highlights the [4:39:02] disproportionate harm these federal policy changes will have on the refugee and immigrant communities that are organizations each work with. [4:39:11] Many of our community members will lose access to essential services that will have an overall effect on their health and quality of life. [4:39:18] We know that our refugee and immigrant communities will be hit the hardest by these changes and we wanted to advocate for taking a community led approach to help community members. [4:39:27] Navigate these new requirements and help make sure that we can mitigate the loss of access to couch benefits. [4:39:33] And that can really effectively be done through community partnerships that will allow us to reach community members in their primary languages and meet them where we're at. [4:39:41] So that's why we strongly support this item and especially recommendation of partnering with trusted community providers to ensure that our communities are supported. [4:39:52] Thank you very much. [4:39:55] Good afternoon. [4:39:56] This is Rita Delafonte calling on behalf of the San Diego hunger coalition. [4:40:09] The support item 12, which HR with HR ones calfresh changes taking effect quickly moving food and onsite benefits to some of our hard hit neighborhoods as a step in the right direction. [4:40:22] And we thank Vice Chair Montgomery step for her leadership. [4:40:25] As the county builds the living map this action calls for targeting can be sharpened with more data on the eligible but not enrolled population, including both the number of potential and rollies and the participation rate. [4:40:38] That perspective keeps smaller high rate communities a priority where they might have been overlooked by population based metrics. [4:40:47] Services where immigrant mixed data and rural households might be missed by in-person events as more residents lose eligibility under HR one ensuring everyone who remains eligible is successfully enrolled is more critical than ever. [4:41:05] This is the one time bridge and we encourage the county. [4:41:10] I'll hear from a final caller. [4:41:20] I'll go and follow here and thank you for coming back to me, Andrew. [4:41:25] Let's see. Give them a fish and they'll eat for the day. [4:41:29] Teach them to fish and they'll never go hungry. [4:41:33] This is just another typical big government item, slave mentality item really. [4:41:40] It keeps the people under the illusion that they need government to take care of them. [4:41:45] Furthering the programming that the people themselves aren't enough that they're incapable of survival and being independent from big daddy government. [4:41:57] More lives, more abuse, you know, how about investing in teaching the needy to send for themselves, invest in lifting up humanity, not keeping them down and reliant. [4:42:09] But, you know, that doesn't keep the system alive and that's all you guys are about having the people under submission and control and pretty unfortunate. [4:42:23] I got it. [4:42:25] You can turn it off. [4:42:26] Remember that concludes public comment on this item. [4:42:30] Okay, turn the floor to Supervisor Anderson. [4:42:34] Thank you. [4:42:36] I'd like to thank my colleague for bringing this forward. [4:42:39] This is a great idea and I just so appreciate it. [4:42:46] I also want to thank the Food Bank and feeding San Diego for their participation, [4:42:52] their hard work and I believe that they need a commitment to do this without overhead, which is amazing. [4:43:00] I do have a consideration I'd like to bring before you, a possible amendment. [4:43:07] Can we put up slide one? [4:43:10] When looking at areas of highest vulnerability, you know, just put the numbers in perspective, [4:43:16] in D2, the loss of calfresh benefits is at 44% higher than three of the districts put together. [4:43:28] And the communities of 91906, 91963 and 91980, as you see in the map, are the highest level of vulnerability. [4:43:42] And when I went through this, we have a lot of distribution in Spring Valley and Spring Valley is not of the same level of need. [4:43:53] In fact, two of the locations are within a mile of each other. [4:43:57] What I'd like to be concerned, by the way, if you live in 91906, the closest location is Spring Valley and that's Spring Valley locations over 31 miles one way. [4:44:09] And to put it perspective, in 91980, the household income is 21 to 49,000 depending on the track you're in. [4:44:21] In 91963, it's 10,354, that's household income for the year. [4:44:27] So these are people that are not going to be driving 30 miles one way to get these benefits. [4:44:33] And yeah, these are the ones that have been hit the hardest already over the last two months. [4:44:39] I'm asking, is that we request that 12 of the distributions proposed for Spring Valley location be moved to those three districts, those three zip codes. [4:44:50] And I would leave it to staff, by the way, we can pull up slide too to get a better idea. [4:44:56] But we do have some locations. [4:45:00] Add, I know that Amazon is partnering with feed, San Diego, distributing seven practices and [4:45:07] seven lunches during the summer. And maybe we could use a program like that. But I was hoping [4:45:16] you could take that as a friendly amendment so that these folks, the people who are greatest [4:45:20] in need, who are in the poorest of poor, would have access. It's not an easy ask, because it's [4:45:28] a logistics issue. But I know you're hard, so I'm feeling pretty good about this. [4:45:34] I just want to, because I know there were layers of information and data that were used [4:45:41] for the final product here. My only ask before we change it is what are the food banks doing [4:45:57] in the air. Well, is that the amount of impires that the, okay? [4:46:02] The amount of impires. [4:46:03] What are the, because there's two things. One is we took in a consideration. I believe what was [4:46:10] already there, as far as food banks are concerned and the work that they're doing there. And then we [4:46:18] have the additional $500,000 allocation that we would use to fill any of the gaps that these six [4:46:27] distribution centers are not filling. Right. That would include delivery services. It would [4:46:33] include being more specific to the needs if they were to do that. But I'd like to make it not open [4:46:41] to them. Yeah, they're clear that they're, I want to make sure it's clear that we're going there. [4:46:45] And because already, you know, 44% of these folks have already been hit. And you're the second [4:46:52] largest shockingly district one who's not that high in terms of cuts. Well, I guess just asking [4:47:01] what would that do logistically to change in one of the spring valley locations? We can either do that [4:47:07] or we can specify of the 500,000 that some of that will be used specifically for additional support to the [4:47:18] mountain empire, which I think may even be a better, a better way to do it because there may be [4:47:23] more specific needs in the community that require home delivery or other kind of distribution of the food. [4:47:31] So that, that is just where I'm at. But yes, let's try to get there. Do you want to ask staff, [4:47:38] what they would prefer, because as long as it's covered, I'm not going to quibble over how we get there. Right. [4:47:44] The spring valley locations aren't of the highest need. However, they're next to three of the [4:47:50] communities in your district. There are of the highest need. Yeah, between D4, also some in D1, [4:47:57] I think spring valley is covering. And also just thinking about the facilities to that the county has, [4:48:07] which you did bring that up in mountain empire. But what would be the preference for staff? What would be easier? [4:48:13] Thank you for that question through the chair. I think one B does provide us the most flexibility [4:48:20] in meeting the needs of that specific area. So agree that if we could just use at 500,000 dollars [4:48:28] and tailor the food distribution, whether it be home delivered or if we find a site, we'll do something there. [4:48:35] Can you have your office reach out to our office, because we have contacts in those communities, [4:48:41] and then just too often, you know, some of these people don't have internet. Some of these people, [4:48:48] I mean, it's object poverty and maybe they have internet, but they don't have access because they can't [4:48:54] afford access. So we have teams that go out there from time to time and knock on doors. I'd really like [4:49:02] to find out what you're thinking and then we want to make sure that we push that out so that nobody slips [4:49:08] to the cracks. Absolutely. Thank you. Is that good with you? [4:49:14] I'm good with that. I'll thank you. Wonderful. [4:49:19] It's you guys, Reguri. Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, I want to start off by thanking Vice Chair [4:49:26] Montgomery Step for your leadership on this. It's incredible work and it's incredibly important and [4:49:32] and it's just so unfortunate that here we are and we heard from the major food hubs, food distribution [4:49:38] hubs in the entire county, how significant the increase in need has been and how much families are [4:49:46] suffering. But I did want to, so I wanted to address two of the comments that I heard, [4:49:54] the lack of a refrigeration center in South Fay, that's correct. It's on my radar. We're looking at options. [4:50:04] It's something more long term outside of this particular discussion, but complementary to it. [4:50:12] Secondly, the possibility of looking at 9195 zeros as some of the commentators said. [4:50:24] So yeah, I will turn it over to step up what my understanding of 9195 zero is right now. There are about 23 [4:50:32] distribution sites in the zip code that the food bank actually does. [4:50:42] We would have to check and see if that is accurate, right? I know there have four schools as well, [4:50:48] but I want to check and make sure that's the case. Even if it is the case, if there's again a way through the [4:50:55] one be allocation, if we could call out supporting that zip code as we do the analysis of what is [4:51:06] actually available and making sure that we communicating consult with district one on that zip code [4:51:14] when it comes to that additional $500,000 allocation. I think that would probably be the best way that way, [4:51:21] even if we have these distribution sites, if there's gaps in that right that we can or again, [4:51:29] home delivery, there's other methods of trying to get the food to people as they need. It's [4:51:34] I think that would provide the most flexibility if you're okay. I would welcome that. Thank you and [4:51:39] especially for the, you know, the case of Lincoln Acres being lived in with National City and [4:51:46] maybe we're pulling data from National City potentially that we're not accounting for maybe [4:51:50] some of the unincorporated areas. So I appreciate that and your amenability too. Looking at that. Thank you. [4:51:59] Oh and I don't know if there's this. I will. I'll make it. You're not second motion. I'm motion from [4:52:06] Vice Chair to the second from the Chair. Supervisor does me. Thank you, Mayor. I plan on supporting but one of [4:52:19] I think I need to address. This HR1 seems to be the hammer, the tool that seems to get [4:52:25] mischaracterized. I think by a lot of people in some of our speakers as well. The CalFresh is going to go away with [4:52:31] people who are going to not be eligible. The new requirements for CalFresh only applies to people [4:52:37] 18 to 64 years old or able-bodied single and don't have children in the age of 14. The only requirement is [4:52:45] they have to volunteer or go to school 20 hours a week or they have a job and they have to submit [4:52:52] paperwork twice a year now instead of once a year. Those are the new requirements. So everybody that was [4:52:57] eligible before is still eligible. This CalFresh feature just kicked in a few weeks ago so we're going to [4:53:04] see how it all works out. And the same thing with the Metacal. Again this is able-bodied people are being [4:53:10] asked to work and like I said they can go to school or kick and volunteer for up to 20 hours a week. [4:53:15] It's very simple and easy and even here in the board letter it says they're at risk. It doesn't [4:53:24] say they're going to be losing. A lot of people are overblowing this HR1 when it's really just has some [4:53:31] work requirements in our volunteer requirements. And I do have a question I guess I'm going to be supportive [4:53:38] today but the zip code thing kind of throws me and I think one of the speakers I've mentioned that [4:53:42] to the zip codes are just because of where you're mailing address is it doesn't necessarily mean [4:53:48] you qualify or you're not. So if there's a way and I know maybe those food banks already do this don't [4:53:54] they have a qualification process or something like that for people that come in it's just it seems to be [4:54:01] a net with a bunch of holes in it at this point. Food banks have a lot of in partnership with the [4:54:08] her coalition do almost real-time data so they have data and it is based on zip code just because [4:54:16] that's you know unfortunately well I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole. We've been there already [4:54:22] but they do have data also the county we have data we have of course the role of people that [4:54:29] are eligible for Calfresh and at risk that's where the number comes from so I don't you know if we're not [4:54:36] targeting it based on the need based on the data that we collect then there it really becomes very [4:54:44] arbitrary and that we're trying to base it as much as possible on on on on data. Well and I agree with [4:54:51] that but by just there's somebody's not in one of these zip codes and they show up and they have a need I want [4:54:57] to make sure that they also have the opportunity. Absolutely and the hardest part about this is that [4:55:03] the need is great regardless of the community that we're talking about. This is just because we're trying to be [4:55:12] as we have discussed all day. Fiscally prudent we're trying to do the best we can for the most amount of [4:55:18] people for the most efficient cost that's really where this comes into play. You leave it up to me I'd [4:55:24] make sure that everybody has food no matter what. Okay back to you right sure. Just a couple [4:55:39] quick things and I and I do appreciate the discussion of course that's why things come to the board [4:55:43] because again we're all elected by our constituency and we know our districts right so I do appreciate [4:55:50] the additional input. I believe that the South County Livewell Center here may be actually in [4:55:59] 950 but regardless we'll consult with D1 to make sure that we're clear on all of that and to the community [4:56:08] thank you for coming out and asking the questions. I just want to say this like it does not give me pleasure [4:56:16] to sit in the seat and say that 93,000 people are at risk. It doesn't give me pleasure. I don't need to hit someone [4:56:26] with that that doesn't agree with me on everything like this is not fun to say that but it is a reality that [4:56:33] there are more people at risk and that is just something that having gone through COVID, having gone through [4:56:40] the floods that it really was on my heart to try to be proactive and the thing is a big, big, big [4:56:49] part of this that I think is important is the data collection because if the need is less then we will spend [4:56:55] less money and it'll come back into our general fund and that will be a victory right like I'm not this is [4:57:03] this is not where I want to be but I think it's where we need to be right now we have to be proactive [4:57:09] I think a re-determination and those requirements and armwembrings that have shown us across the nation [4:57:15] that when states do re-determination people automatically fall off the rolls because oftentimes they don't [4:57:20] have the time or the knowledge to bring their paperwork in every six months so it has these practical [4:57:29] implications and we're just trying to mitigate for that's all and if we don't have to spend the money [4:57:34] then I think we'll all be very happy about that and we can use it elsewhere the data will tell us [4:57:42] that and it's very important that we keep that data and that we don't just say go off and spend the [4:57:48] money without understanding what the need is so I appreciate the conversation here and I'm done so [4:57:56] yeah I'm done thank you okay thank you very much for the motion for the second [4:58:05] try to last and remember that motion passes you in and this is the last supervisor's being present [4:58:08] and voting aye okay great and we'll now move on to item 13 so this is the continued item and [4:58:21] Joel this was your item initially sorry super's interesting so you like to say a couple words [4:58:26] yeah I like to present it real fast because hopefully it saves time when public comment that's not in it [4:58:35] so just to bring people to the speed on April 21st the board unanimously approved [4:58:42] directing the county staff to provide a board policy requiring board ad hoc subcommittees to undertake [4:58:49] several actions to ensure transparency in public access to meetings the recommended actions included [4:58:56] public posting of meeting agendas prior to the subcommittee meetings allowing the public to view the [4:59:03] and making the meeting minutes available to the public these mirror the standard transparency [4:59:08] actions the board takes under our regular board meetings although there they're they're continued to support [4:59:15] there's continued to be support for adopting a policy to provide the public with information and [4:59:21] access to board ad hoc subcommittee meetings some board members have raised concerns that some [4:59:28] information discussed during these meetings may need to be kept confidential I agree [4:59:34] this we need to be able to protect the personal information of juveniles but there's already [4:59:41] protections in state law the county can't violate state law the recommendations in item 13 [4:59:50] would not change those protections [5:00:00] Vice-transparency Actions to be taken by the Board at HACSO committees allows the Board to waive this policy [5:00:07] when necessary to do so to protect confidential information. Here's the rub. However, without this policy [5:00:16] in place, the public will continue to be completely shut out of numerous decisions being made by the minority [5:00:25] of the Board. When I say minority subcommittee can only be two people, so that's always the [5:00:32] minority of the Board. And I'm giving an example in not trying to pick a fight, but this is [5:00:39] a great example. During our Board and HACSO committees and juvenile justice meetings, critical [5:00:46] information and testimony may not be delivered by the Chief Provation Officer, the Council [5:00:52] of Juvenile Justice Administrators, the Juvenile Justice Division, law enforcement officials, and [5:00:59] youth advocacy groups. There's currently no way for the public or other Board members to access [5:01:06] that vital information, these officials and individuals have provided to these at HACSO committees. [5:01:12] Other hand, HACSO committees are making critical spending decisions, totaling tens of millions [5:01:19] of dollars that are only known by the public and other Board members once they have been brought [5:01:25] before the Board in final form. We're not seeing how this stuff. All the Board subcommittees [5:01:32] have done are posted, the testimonies are posted, and any member of this Board in real time can track [5:01:40] it. Although we're not communicating, it's available to the public, so it's available to the [5:01:46] Board. It doesn't violate the Brown Act. Now, by adopting this new Board policy A75, this [5:01:55] Board can demonstrate that it's serious about providing transparency and public access to information [5:02:02] considered by the Board members in real time, while continuing to protect the information that [5:02:08] should be kept confidential. I'd like to offer an amendment to my own Board letter, and [5:02:18] I think you have a copy of it. If you wouldn't mind putting it up, I want to be sensitive to [5:02:24] those confidential items, and I want to protect children. But I spent 12 years as the Vice [5:02:30] Chair of Public Safety in the state legislature. We had plenty of youth who testified before [5:02:35] our committees. We were able to meet the law, protect the kids, and still making sure that [5:02:43] the public understood. So we would provide summaries of what the youth would provide in testimony, but [5:02:50] all of the adults in the room. Their testimony was immediately made available for folks to follow. So with [5:03:01] this, this says, notwithstanding the foregone in the ad hoc subcommittee, may meet confidential [5:03:09] on any topic which the RELF M Brown Act would permit a legislative body to meet in close session. If [5:03:18] not already covered by the Brown Act or state law, state law covers juveniles, so that would [5:03:25] all be there. If an ad hoc subcommittee decides to meet confidential, the co-chairs must communicate [5:03:32] the need and justify for holding a confidential meeting to the other board members in chief CAO in [5:03:40] clerk of the board in County Council. So in other words, you would automatically be covered by state [5:03:46] law, so you could absolutely protect the youth or any item, say it's a personnel item, say [5:03:53] it's another sensitive item. Absolutely, you would have the right to do it because that would [5:03:57] be covered by the Brown Act if this was a full board. So that would be the guardrails to make sure [5:04:03] that we're not doing it. But if you had law enforcement and they were giving testimony, or you [5:04:09] were asking AI experts, and you had a subcommittee, you know, a panel of AI experts, everybody would [5:04:17] have access to that. They'd be able to see it, they'd be able to understand it. When you have [5:04:24] an open process like that, too, one of the things I like is we did receive emails from folks with [5:04:30] additional questions or with additional thoughts, and they were helpful in terms of who we brought [5:04:38] in the next round of questioning, and that we covered all the topics. Now, much of it, I have to [5:04:44] admit, when people submitted it to us, it wasn't relevant. They didn't fully understand the [5:04:50] subject matter, and they had a good idea, but the idea was against the law. So that was not something [5:04:56] that would get any traction. But we're missing out on that input. And frankly, I'm missing out [5:05:02] as a board member when these things come before us, and I have no way of knowing how that decision [5:05:09] was made. When it comes to a board in staff does it, we have staff to a presentation, and [5:05:17] we can ask all the expertise of the staff, but now we're going outside of the staff and not seeing [5:05:25] what they're saying, not hearing, not hearing what they're saying and not seeing what they're suggesting [5:05:32] is very, very problematic. So I'm hoping I solved the transparency issue by putting [5:05:40] big guardrails in place over things that need protection in the meetings, and individuals that need [5:05:50] protection in the meetings, or subject matter. Thank you, ma'am, Chair. Okay. By the way, it's a motion. [5:05:57] It's a motion. It's a motion. It's a motion to pass the item as drafted with the addition of [5:06:07] item of C, and a second from Supervisor Desmond, who will now go to public comment. Thank you, Chair [5:06:16] Lawson Rimmer. We have 44 requests to speak on the side. I'm an 18 and person and 26 requesting to speak [5:06:26] by phone. Also know for the record that we received 90 comments, all of those in support. For any [5:06:31] individuals that requested to speak on item 13 by phone, please dial in the conference line using [5:06:36] the instructions that we're provided to you. We'll begin with the in-person speakers as [5:06:40] your name is called. Please support and stand on the arrows until it is served to speak at the podium [5:06:43] because there are 10 or more speakers on the side of me. You'll have one minute to address the board. I'll ask you to [5:06:48] please begin by stating your name for the audio record. I'll be calling you groups of three. So please listen for your [5:06:54] name. The first three individuals are Ryan Holmes, Brett of Lindstrom and Dolly Madison. [5:07:01] Have a good afternoon, please come forward. Good afternoon, my name is Ryan Holmes and thank you [5:07:09] for your time. I'm here speaking in support of agenda item 13. The weight of public view into the discussions [5:07:18] we're having today is obvious in your behavior and how you speak to one another. And the diplomacy [5:07:26] that requires and the thoughtfulness and the care that that requires. And that might also be an argument [5:07:32] for this measure. Much of what becomes ordinance finds its origin in ad hoc committees. And in the [5:07:39] absence of public view, many things can occur in gain legs and momentum that may not be in the public [5:07:47] interests, but might serve an individual interest. So there's a fair amount of argument for, [5:07:53] though it may seem less than elegant to have that kind of input. There's a tremendous amount [5:07:59] of value in having that kind of oversight from your fellow constituents, right? In real time. So I thank you [5:08:05] for your time. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, Brett to Lindstrom District 3 and yes, I support [5:08:17] transparency to board-created ad hoc committees. Thank you. This proposal is truly transparent. [5:08:25] And we must end secret subcommittee meetings. Let the constituents be informed of these crucial [5:08:31] conversations. Obviously, the state mandated private privacy aspects will be protected. And so I assume [5:08:40] that this is going to be passed unanimously, right? Since you all have stated endorsement of [5:08:46] transparency, right? So I'm looking forward to the vote. And thank you, Supervisor Anderson. [5:08:56] Thank you. I'd like to invite four or three more speakers, Oliver Twist, [5:08:59] allegedly Audra and Doyle Morrison. Madison, I strongly support item 13. We need transparency and need to [5:09:08] know where the sausage is made. The people spoke when voters voted for a specific term for [5:09:17] you, Supervisors. Today, you voted yourselves longer terms. Unless you're a hypocrite, this means you [5:09:25] are all okay when President Trump, if he extends his term. As I also like to add today, Techloady Canyon, [5:09:34] especially on the Cowley Wayside, is a San Diego wildfires ticking time bomb and we need people [5:09:41] out there to trim back and weed abatement. Provenative measures like that are what help us from having [5:09:49] all these people homeless on the is one avenue that helps from so many people ended up homeless [5:09:56] and in the streets or wherever they can be. Today, we discussed millions of dollars for organizations [5:10:03] and that were fast for food, housing, rapper, and services and attorneys. Good. Thank you. Thank you. [5:10:09] Thank you. Time is up. Thank you. Next speaker, please. [5:10:19] Hello, my name is Doyle Morrison and I am in favor and support of this before us because [5:10:28] it's important to have the transparency so that everyone can pay attention to what's going on. [5:10:37] I spoke with a gentleman at lunch at the break and we had this conversation about concern about [5:10:45] privacy for some of the children that are happening and I believe Joe Anderson's amendment has taken care [5:10:52] of that so that they can be protected and the people can stay informed. I believe that [5:11:02] you guys can all agree that this is a win-win if we can have the transparency and we can protect [5:11:07] the children. Thank you for the concern. Thank you. Next speaker is coming forward on [5:11:13] light three additional speakers. Alicia Morrison, Marco Espinoza and David Ray. [5:11:20] Hi, yes. Good afternoon. Mary Davis, I hate Oliver Twist and I'm strongly in favor of this and [5:11:25] I do consider myself a seasoned veteran of this chamber and I have to say that my what four or five years [5:11:31] of being here, even I am confused about how policy comes forward and gets crafted. It seems too much [5:11:38] is done behind closed doors in the darkness. I'm saying bring it all out and you hold your boards [5:11:44] and commissions to that standard so I don't understand why you would not hold every of your committee [5:11:50] save those that do truly require sensitivity like juveniles and et cetera. I'd also like to [5:11:56] bring up this time this might be the perfect time. I've worked with your financial office and for the [5:12:02] county reserve tracker real-time dashboard so I would like maybe also to think about this in some [5:12:08] kind of transparency just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. I did send it and I had AI [5:12:14] created a beautiful dashboard. It links to every vote you would do so please bring that forward as [5:12:20] transparency. Thank you. I'll hear from the next speaker. Good afternoon, Alicia Morrison. [5:12:30] It is nice to stay informed. The preemble of the Brown Act State Public Commission's [5:12:36] boards, councils and other legislative bodies of local government agencies exist to aid in the [5:12:42] conduct of the people's business. The people do not yield their sovereignty to bodies that serve them. [5:12:48] The people insist on remaining informed to retain control over the legislative bodies they have created. [5:12:55] For example, right now, San Diego Parks Advisory Committee is missing April and May [5:13:03] minutes from the website so you can't even go and review what was what business was conducted at those [5:13:11] meetings. Let's support this. I've seen nothing wrong with it. If there is private sensitive material [5:13:19] redacted, if there is a concern for a private individual information exposed, [5:13:30] I'll ask my health. Thank you. Good afternoon, Board. My name is Dave Ray. I live in Spring Valley District 1. [5:13:41] Today, this afternoon and this morning we've seen quite a lot of [5:13:46] animosity of the citizens against the Board members for how you're conducting your work. [5:13:52] A while back there was another huge situation with the placement of the [5:13:57] minicab and shelters in Lemming Grove against the visciferous opposition by the citizens of Lemming [5:14:05] Grove in Spring Valley. However, you have an amazing opportunity in front of you right now [5:14:12] to redeem yourselves and to repair this situation by showing this that you really, really do care about [5:14:20] the citizens. I support supervisor Anderson's idea and I urge you to strongly support it as well [5:14:32] because it will give you an opportunity to really show accountability and transparency. Thank you. [5:14:42] Thank you. It's the next speaker coming forward. I'll invite three additional speakers, Alejandro Martinez, [5:14:47] homeowner, Yusufi, and Rama Obdino. [5:15:00] I am in favor of this item. Thank you to supervisor Anderson for bringing it forward. [5:15:07] Him and I sit on different sides of the aisle, but in my time and coming to Board of Supervisors, [5:15:14] meeting meetings, I found it to be very kind, reasonable, often funny, but very strong-hearted [5:15:22] man, so I thank him for this. And the second from supervisor Desmond. [5:15:29] And just to wrap up for item 12, sorry, hunger, pain, and lust are all very strong [5:15:38] motivating factors and food insecurity has both physiological and psychological effect [5:15:44] and mitigating that helps the wider community in various ways. [5:15:49] Thank you. [5:15:51] Thank you. Can you speak or please? [5:15:53] Hi. Thank you. Good afternoon again, Board of Supervisors. My name is Alejandro. [5:15:57] Supervisor Joe Anderson. I'm glad you brought up the juvenile justice ad hoc subcommittee [5:16:03] because it's exactly what I'm going to allude to. [5:16:06] While transparency is so important, I work in the juvenile justice landscape and transparency is something that [5:16:12] we're always trying to overcome, especially with certain agencies that work in this county. [5:16:19] What we have been able to do in the ad hoc as is is the reason why we had so many young people come in today [5:16:25] and present and share their stories. [5:16:28] So I would really encourage any form of the changing of any ad hoc that you advise the young people [5:16:35] in that juvenile justice ad hoc subcommittee. If this is something they want. [5:16:39] So we should be centering these young people as we're making these decisions about meetings that are centering [5:16:45] their voices, their stories, right? And so if we disrupt that juvenile, [5:16:50] we're going to disrupt a lot of the powerful work that we're doing right now in the county. [5:16:54] So I would just recommend that you think twice about what we're trying to do here. [5:16:58] Thank you. [5:17:00] Thank you. [5:17:01] Speak or please? [5:17:06] Good afternoon. My name is Rahma Abdi. I'm with a Pana and also resident of district four. [5:17:12] I'm here to oppose an item 13. Our organization worked with immigrant refugee communities. [5:17:17] We support transparency and accountability. However, I do not support this proposal. [5:17:22] We already have many rules, meetings, and public process. [5:17:26] And the final decision always made by the board. [5:17:29] Our community are important because they help supervisor discuss the new issue and respond to the community needs quickly. [5:17:36] They are created to address specific issues and provide recommendation. [5:17:41] And I ask you also vote no on this item. Thank you. [5:17:46] Thank you. [5:17:48] The next speaker is coming forward. I'll call three additional speakers. [5:17:51] Move home and Alexander Valentine and Michelle Krueg. [5:17:57] I've called your name. Please come forward. [5:18:03] This won't pass. [5:18:06] Because there's putas. [5:18:11] Diran. [5:18:13] That's why. [5:18:14] And it's interesting because you guys don't want to be transparent. [5:18:17] What's actually going on with the children. [5:18:19] And that's what's so nefarious. [5:18:21] But all things and done in the dark will come to the light. [5:18:24] And it's interesting that we think or someone here thinks that Joel and Jim took an oath to protect Paloma's feelings. [5:18:30] But if I want to say punta, verga, kulo, negra, estupida. [5:18:35] I mean, kekatsa, shakatina, mirad. [5:18:40] Whatever I want to say, I can. [5:18:42] It's protected under free speech. [5:18:43] And that's what you took an oath to uphold. [5:18:46] So you can sit here and be offended all you want. [5:18:49] But you sat there and you said, I love when you guys go up there and you love use your free speech. [5:18:54] You want to impede it every chance you get. [5:18:56] That's a violation of the law and set you guys up for litigation. [5:19:00] So I suggest you stop. [5:19:02] And I can say punta, putta, whatever all I want. [5:19:07] Next speaker, please. [5:19:12] I've called your name. [5:19:14] Thank you. [5:19:15] Here goes the meeting. [5:19:23] Michelle Krug. [5:19:24] And I guess I've been spoiled with the city of San Diego because all of the, [5:19:31] and I know there's a difference between ad hoc committees and standing committees. [5:19:35] But I've always been able to see when a committee is meeting in my government, [5:19:43] in my city government. [5:19:45] So I really would appreciate knowing that, knowing what the topics are, [5:19:51] even being able to just give that feedback even if it wasn't at the meeting. [5:19:57] But I do think it's important that that be all calendared. [5:20:01] So we do know that that's happening. [5:20:04] And what the topics are. [5:20:07] I'm on the persons with disabilities committee, [5:20:10] and even a baby committee like that. [5:20:13] We adhere to the Brown Act. [5:20:16] So I would, I would like to see that happen with all of our committees. [5:20:21] Thank you. [5:20:22] Thank you. [5:20:23] Like to write for additional speakers. [5:20:25] Lucky, Aiden, Brett of Lindstrom, and DeAndrey Brooks. [5:20:35] Okay. [5:20:36] Good afternoon. [5:20:37] Supervisors. [5:20:38] Lucky, Aiden, District 4, resident with Pana. [5:20:41] Pana poses this item because we don't believe that adding more periodic hurdles. [5:20:45] It helps increase transparency and oversight in the government. [5:20:48] We do believe that making meetings. [5:20:51] Public is important. [5:20:52] Providing meeting notes and so on. [5:20:54] But those are already part of the iHark at Hark. [5:20:57] Community procedures are already. [5:20:59] The at Hark community procedures for those in juvenile justice uncovered real issues. [5:21:04] And now O.C. sprays is no longer used. [5:21:06] Going to be used on our youth. [5:21:08] We urge you to vote no on this item because [5:21:11] we're on a full community should have a safe place to bring up critical and emerging issues. [5:21:16] Thank you. [5:21:17] Thank you. [5:21:18] And a final call for homirious FE Muhammad Alexander Valentin. [5:21:26] DeAndrey Brooks. [5:21:29] Not seeing those individuals. [5:21:31] We're now here from the individuals that requested to speak by phone. [5:21:34] We will start with the first caller. [5:21:37] Good afternoon again. [5:21:44] This is Kathleen LeBent and I think supervisor Anderson for his thoughtful and well [5:21:51] spoken comments about his item here item 13. [5:21:57] Absolutely supported. [5:21:59] There is more more transparency is always necessary. [5:22:06] The public is already challenged in navigating the county's website. [5:22:11] There are again those staff reports, the bureaucratic language that's used. [5:22:16] We did not need any more that is obscured under the cloak of politicization. [5:22:23] So thank you. [5:22:25] And I hope that you will support this item. [5:22:28] And thank you again, supervisor Anderson. [5:22:32] Thank you. [5:22:33] We'll hear from the next caller. [5:22:42] All about the figures that this was the last item on the original agenda. [5:22:47] You just don't want to reveal your dirty little secrets. [5:22:52] You mentioned privacy, many diverse secrets say every little excuse you can find. [5:22:59] But you know what? [5:23:00] It's all government stuff. [5:23:03] All discoverable. [5:23:05] That's what the voice of San Diego, PRA, the public records act. [5:23:12] The lawsuit is all about. [5:23:14] We're viewing government's dirty little secrets. [5:23:17] The new policy looks good. [5:23:20] Great job. [5:23:21] This will definitely increase the transparency, [5:23:26] and that seems to be a wider distribution of ideas and opinions. [5:23:31] When it comes to discussing, proving, meeting topics. [5:23:35] Current sense. [5:23:36] Criminal justice. [5:23:38] I'm sure the board warden to want us to know would be changed. [5:23:43] I did. [5:23:44] Here from the next caller. [5:23:47] I'm going to follow here. [5:23:57] I'm just a tear of paint attention and seen. [5:24:01] But the others are saying. [5:24:03] Yeah, it's good to see drunken zombie in the chambers. [5:24:08] Glad you're back at it paint attention. [5:24:11] But let's see. [5:24:15] Yeah, that's all I have on the side. [5:24:18] What do you think? [5:24:23] Thank you. [5:24:26] Thank you. [5:24:27] Well, here from the next caller. [5:24:45] Barbara Gordon. [5:24:49] I urge you to adopt this board policy A75. [5:24:54] That will clearly identify the actions of any ad hoc subcommittee. [5:24:59] This policy is necessary to ensure the public a level of transparency and accountability. [5:25:05] That continues to be missing from this board. [5:25:09] Your constituents need to be informed of the actions taken by all ad hoc committees. [5:25:17] Particularly when important policies and financial matters are being discussed and acted upon. [5:25:23] County residents deserve access to the subcommittee meetings and information. [5:25:29] There needs to be rules and guidance for the operation of these committees. [5:25:33] There needs to be a schedule of all meetings posted online with agendas, [5:25:37] material prior to the meeting. [5:25:40] Again, I urge you to vote for this new board policy A75. [5:25:45] Thank you very much. [5:25:48] Thank you. [5:25:49] Well, here from the next caller. [5:26:00] Good afternoon, board supervisors. [5:26:02] My name is Russell James. [5:26:04] I'm speaking in support of item 13. [5:26:08] This measure has value. [5:26:10] I'm asking you all. [5:26:12] Your support for this measure as well. [5:26:16] Previous opposition from some board members. [5:26:19] Remind pity and adequately address an options offer to mitigate these issues. [5:26:24] Unfortunately, this measure is still not being supported. [5:26:30] Public deserves transparency and I urge you to vote yes on this. [5:26:36] The members that refuse to the sport this measure. [5:26:39] Please remember that the public comment is overwhelmingly supporting it. [5:26:44] We are watching. [5:26:45] We will remember. [5:26:47] Your actions come. [5:26:49] We will remember your actions come in re-election time. [5:26:54] Your actions are lack thereof you have consequences. [5:26:59] Thank you for your time. [5:27:03] Thank you. [5:27:04] Here from the next caller. [5:27:09] Good afternoon. [5:27:11] Board of supervisors. [5:27:13] My name is Marianne Scale. [5:27:14] I came today to support item 13 because those of us living in the unincorporated field. [5:27:19] Very much cut off from the flow of information behind the decision making that is happening [5:27:25] at board of supervisors. [5:27:27] And the background of her making associated to those decisions that may have come from an ad hoc committee meeting. [5:27:34] As you know, I am 13 recommends that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of that a minimum of the public must have access to a agenda for ad hoc committee. [5:27:46] We are names are not necessarily just general topics that are on the agenda. [5:27:50] And at a minimum an opportunity to know the results of the agenda. [5:27:54] Again, no names are necessary. [5:27:57] It would also be useful to know what the supporting materials were associated with when making decisions on the agenda that are not confidential. [5:28:07] This would be a safe and reasonable way to begin so that this board of supervisors would not seem so resistant. [5:28:15] Thank you. [5:28:16] Let's go. [5:28:24] Peggy Walker, I strongly favor this. [5:28:27] There are lots and remorse that's earlier that charter reform has been a court participatory process. [5:28:33] That is a griege of so in balance outside its special interest groups. [5:28:38] The public have little opportunity for input or scrutiny of that proposal and was cut off from board meeting comment. [5:28:45] Transparency builds trust. [5:28:48] That's compelling reason. [5:28:50] If you really believe in quote participatory processes or ad hoc committees to operate with clear rules and meaningful public access. [5:29:00] That means access to know who's at the table and how decisions are shaped before reaching board meetings. [5:29:09] Your yes vote on this issue will be a true measure of your commitment to the participatory process and transparency or whether that's just convenient rhetoric. [5:29:23] Appropriate exclusions for vulnerable issues have been addressed. [5:29:28] Good afternoon. [5:29:36] My name is Becky Rapp and I urge you to support board policy a 75 because transparency should apply to all board created subcommittees, especially when they're discussing major policy issues before they come to the full board. [5:29:51] A good example is the county's socially equitable cannabis program. [5:29:55] This program has been under development for years and could have significant impact on public health. [5:30:00] Public safety, safety, neighborhood, youth exposure, and county finances. Yet many residents have found a difficult to track where recommendations were developed, and what discussions occurred before they reached the board. The public deserve time-long notice of meetings, access to agenda as recordings, meeting materials, consultant information, and clear documentation of recommendations. [5:30:23] Transparency should begin when policies are being developed, not just when final decisions are scheduled for a board vote. [5:30:30] The policy will help ensure that residents can follow important discussions, understand how recommendations are formed, and participate. [5:30:39] Thank you. We'll hear from the next call. [5:30:47] Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. I appreciate this opportunity to share my support for item 13, regarding supervisor Anderson's proposal regarding ad hoc committees. [5:31:00] I find it confusing that maybe my Board of Supervisors wouldn't have the information he needed because he doesn't get any of it from an ad hoc committee. [5:31:12] Imagine how that extends out to those of us who live out here in the incorcorated area. We don't have an access to understand. [5:31:19] It has been said that transparency is the bedrock of trust, accountability, and authentic relationships. It eliminates hidden agendas, foster psychological safety, and allows genuine connection to blurry, proving that honesty is the ultimate catalyst for both personal and organizational integrity. [5:31:40] I would add to that the these opportunities to understand what's happening in our county and the agendas and decisions and supporting material. [5:31:50] Thank you for hear from the next caller. [5:31:53] A. It's true. Round four of hearing this. I know that transparency that's care of many Monica continue to resist like cockroaches in the light. [5:32:06] The correct progress is don't want us to know about the backroom deals with the harmony of texture coalition, the backroom deals with Paul Warley, the backroom deals with JC Cooper, the backroom deals with a center on policy initiatives, the backroom deals many made with their dead be. [5:32:18] And they don't want the public to know or have any say and how many so many multi million our sole first contract came to be. [5:32:24] Or how backcountry residents have been forced to bail out the city of San Diego time and time again. The floods aren't home and says everything is what they want us in the dark on using children as their shield. [5:32:35] The leader, many's meeting with monologues, Monica's TDS and their secret ad hoc solve nothing. [5:32:40] Again, I'm all of Joel Terran, Jim who got $200 from AT&T using our public special events trust funds to funnel money to their private campaigns. [5:32:49] Does everything anyone ever needs to know about this credit board and the war transparency. They do not relate, nor equate. [5:32:55] And Monica, I'm awaiting your sitting records to don't worry. We the people bring the real light. [5:33:01] What's here from the next caller? [5:33:05] Director here. I'm definitely for this. This is definitely the crux of democracy right here. You have to do it. [5:33:17] And also I've heard rumors that subcommittees have met already on the slut walk. [5:33:23] The floods we're going to have without telling anybody. [5:33:27] They weren't going to include the slut solver at the city council meetings on their way to national avenue to celebrate the parade over there and collect some food stamps for the constituency. [5:33:40] This is like this is, get the money off Gavin Newsom's wife. She's still all a fire money and then also Michelle Obama is a man. [5:33:51] That would be nice. [5:33:58] Well, here from the next caller. [5:34:08] Pam, yes on this with a protection of minors and delicate material. [5:34:13] Two things here where Tara, that means you won't vote so this item agenda will not pass. [5:34:20] And here's an interesting thing. Why is Hannah who purports to be over new Americans opposed transparency and accountability? [5:34:29] Maybe they need to be investigated. [5:34:36] Thank you. [5:34:41] Well, here from the next caller. [5:34:50] Hello, my name is Madison and I urge you to support this policy to require transparency and accountability for all Board of Supervisors ad hoc subsidies. [5:35:00] As a resident and mother of three young children, I often follow county decisions but effect public health, safety, housing, behavioral health and youth substance use prevention. [5:35:10] Many of these issues are first discussed in subcommittees before they ever come to the full board. [5:35:15] When those discussions happen outside of public view, it becomes difficult for residents to understand how decisions are being shaped or to provide meaningful input before recommendations are finalized. [5:35:25] County residents should not have to search for information or learn about important policy decisions after decisions have already been made. [5:35:33] Whether the topic is behavioral health, fiscal matters, AI, environmental issues, or any other county concerns, the public deserves an opportunity to stay informed and engage throughout the process. [5:35:44] Greater transparency leads to better decisions, so please support this item. [5:35:48] Thank you. [5:35:50] Thank you. [5:35:52] Excellent. [5:36:00] Blair Beekman. [5:36:03] Hi, this is Blair Beekman. [5:36:05] Thanks a lot for this item. [5:36:08] I am a big believer in check accountability. [5:36:11] It first came on in 2014 to address the concepts of continual war from 911. [5:36:17] I think we've kind of developed ourselves into patterns to working more in secrecy because of 911 and check accountability. [5:36:25] Really brought on ways we can open ourselves up and talk more openly and work towards open democracy and community again. [5:36:33] I'm a little gung-ho in this stuff, so to me it's great to hear this item. [5:36:38] I really learned important lessons today, but it requires sensitivity. [5:37:03] Give me a moment to reconnect here and we'll hear from the final five collars. [5:37:33] Would you hear from the next collars? [5:37:47] Good afternoon. [5:37:48] My name is Diane Grace. [5:37:50] Has the board letter indicates, quote, board meetings and advisory bodies operate under procedures intended to provide equitable access for county residents and the quote. [5:38:03] Establishing consistent requirements for board ad hoc committees would accomplish these same goals. [5:38:11] Otherwise those supervisors not attending or allowed to attend or invited to attend ad hoc meetings. [5:38:20] Do not know what's happening and that is scary. [5:38:23] This is the worst kind of secrecy. [5:38:26] The next step would be to open up these meetings to citizens who are harmed by and assisted by the happenings and discussion and information flow in this meetings. [5:38:39] This would be the height of respect for us residents. [5:38:44] And those of us in the back country communities could use a little respect and consideration. [5:38:50] Thank you. [5:38:51] Thank you for hearing from the next collars. [5:39:02] Good afternoon. [5:39:03] My name is David Geiger. [5:39:04] I'm a member of the Center of Parks and Canyon and District 2 and I support ID and 30. [5:39:07] At the veterinarian I don't have much insight into government but I serve my community planning group to learn and participate. [5:39:14] Supervisor Anderson for his efforts to increase public access and voicing their sports work. [5:39:18] Respect is record of advocating for our communities on a nonpartisan way. [5:39:22] And I support his efforts here to apply a default standard of transparency and disclosure amongst other committees. [5:39:27] I understand the concerned regarding public disclosure [5:39:29] and the context of the Duke and I'll just this up committee [5:39:31] who's worked, I pass an empty support. [5:39:33] I also see no conflict between this proposal [5:39:35] and the need for special protections [5:39:36] and confidentiality, which should be the exception [5:39:38] and not the rule. [5:39:39] This proposal allows for those exceptions. [5:39:41] Public trust and government, as that all-time woes, [5:39:44] government earns public trust by operating the open [5:39:46] whenever possible. [5:39:47] This board would serve both itself and the public [5:39:49] by needing to every opportunity for transparency. [5:39:52] The noblest motive is in public good. [5:39:54] Thank you all. [5:39:56] Thank you. [5:39:57] We'll hear from the next caller. [5:40:07] Maybe I just assumed you kicked me out yesterday, Monica. [5:40:11] Because you said you did. [5:40:13] Now, transparency, we all know [5:40:16] that three of them are not going to go ahead and go [5:40:18] for transparency because I already got a promise [5:40:20] from terror loss and limers that you're going to go and look [5:40:23] into my claims of organized fraud [5:40:26] through the same organizations [5:40:28] that she wants to create these ad hoc committees. [5:40:31] It much reminds me of the election [5:40:33] fraud that took place back in 1982 [5:40:37] where over 100,000 ballots were stolen [5:40:40] basically by these committees. [5:40:42] Use in the red frustration process. [5:40:45] I'd definitely understand that the NGOs [5:40:48] are helping out the homeless people [5:40:51] withdrawing on, got the amount of money to the NGOs [5:40:53] for the homeless people. [5:40:54] So I am assuming because of 2015 we allowed [5:40:59] non-citizens to get driver's license. [5:41:03] They are stealing their vote. [5:41:05] They are voting for them. [5:41:06] They are going to keep these corrupt politicians in play. [5:41:10] I'm glad that. [5:41:12] You're well here from the next caller. [5:41:21] I'm Deborah Gonzalez. [5:41:24] I'm from the backcountry in Boulevard [5:41:26] and I'm completely in support of supervisor Anderson for 13. [5:41:34] Honestly, this would help our backcountry [5:41:38] have to be in more communication. [5:41:41] We lose out on a lot of information [5:41:44] and it hurts us significantly. [5:41:49] I think trust building is extremely important. [5:41:53] Right now we have a judge going on [5:41:56] where we don't particularly trust our local. [5:41:59] It's just to really speak on our behalf. [5:42:03] And as stepping forward, [5:42:05] I think passing this with help is all getting a lot more trust. [5:42:10] So I am completely in support of this. [5:42:13] I represent the backcountry community [5:42:16] Alliance for responsible development. [5:42:18] And thank you. [5:42:19] And whoever those crazy people were, [5:42:21] they were cursing and saying all those things. [5:42:23] This is my first time on here. [5:42:25] And as of one. [5:42:27] Thank you. [5:42:28] Well now, here from the final caller. [5:42:36] Hi, Natalie Rushty here. [5:42:38] I know that this failed once already at a Thai vote two weeks ago. [5:42:44] It asked that hop. [5:42:46] Subtimini's post-abendance and public records. [5:42:48] The same transparency regular board meetings already follow. [5:42:51] But I want to say something that the word professional [5:42:54] that's used to decide who's allowed to be heard. [5:42:56] And once I tried to be keen on mishevel and low pisses, [5:42:59] we have. [5:43:00] And was denied. [5:43:02] By the same professionals. [5:43:04] Um, debating that I wasn't professional. [5:43:07] Um, in most part of the depression. [5:43:10] It seems that transparency and the word professional [5:43:14] is language that's used to also filter out people [5:43:18] that are trusted by said people. [5:43:22] So when we use this language, [5:43:24] I don't know. [5:43:26] Transparency and professional. [5:43:28] I don't know if this is going to change anything. [5:43:30] Thank you. [5:43:33] Thank you. [5:43:34] And trail lesson room. [5:43:35] I think it was public comment on this item. [5:43:37] Okay. [5:43:38] Thank you very much. [5:43:40] Thank you supervisor Anderson. [5:43:42] I know that we've been discussing this for some months now. [5:43:46] You know from my earlier comments at board meetings on May the 19th and also on June 9th. [5:43:56] That I cannot support your proposed policy as it is currently drafted. [5:44:01] I know that you have an amendment and I'll get to that in a minute. [5:44:04] But I just want to go through a couple of things. [5:44:07] I think that you have said here today and that has come out on some of your communications. [5:44:13] At the juvenile justice ad hoc subcommittee meetings, it is very important that supervisor Gary and I [5:44:19] are able to provide a safe environment for parents to tell us what is happening to their children [5:44:25] who are detained in a vulnerable situation. [5:44:28] It is also very important that those with lived experience feel safe to come forward at these meetings [5:44:34] and tell us how we could improve our county systems and processes. [5:44:38] And I will also say I have spoken to people time after time who refuse to come to the county [5:44:43] because they feel bullied when they come in here. [5:44:46] Your proposed one-size-fits-all policy will not allow me to provide that kind of safe environment [5:44:53] and will not allow me to do the work that I have been elected to do. [5:44:57] Your proposed policy will result in uninteresting. [5:45:00] And I hope that you can understand that. You spoke today, and it came out in one of your alerts that these populations that we are talking about are already protected through government code section 549-533, as it bars local agencies from disclosing identifying information about minors at public meetings and other state and federal laws, further protect confidentiality records. [5:45:29] The actual text of that government code has not been shared to let me share it now. [5:45:34] A member of the public shall not be required as a condition to attendance at a meeting of a legislative body or local agency to register his or her name to provide other information to complete a questionnaire or otherwise to fulfill any condition precedent to his or her attendance. [5:45:54] If an attendance list register questionnaire or other similar document is posted at or near the entrance of the room where the meeting is to be held or circulated to the person's present during the meeting, it shall state clearly that the signing, registering or completion of the document is voluntary, and that all persons may attend the meeting, regardless of whether a person signs, registers or completes the document. [5:46:22] But as you can see, the plain text of the California government section that you referenced states that a member of the public shall not be required to register their name as a condition to attend the meeting of a legislative body of a local agency. [5:46:36] But your policy requiring all meetings to be streamed live, recorded and posted online, and public comments submitted to the subcommittee during meeting shall be recorded, maintained, and made available to the public online will still identify parents and other people who speak up at the meeting. [5:46:55] If you are I showed up at the meeting and we didn't sign in there would be enough people that would know who we are. [5:47:02] So in effect it's not solving for the problem that we have discussed here in these meetings, these three meetings or so. [5:47:11] This is precisely why on May 19th, I did vote for option four, we should give the board flexibility to tailor transparency requirements, and in case by case basis each time an ad hoc subcommittee is created. [5:47:26] At that time you said, it does nothing, I do disagree with that, but I understand why this is important, why you are bringing this forward. [5:47:35] So I still the language that you did present, I think that that still presents problems right for our parents to want to come and speak because technically they're not protected by the government code or the Brown Act. [5:47:50] Simply a way for them to feel safe, but if you were to go back to your amendments into the policy A75 to the section B that it is the policy of the board of supervisors that it's ad hoc subcommittees will comply with the following requirements in order to promote additional transparency and public participation or alternatively require that the ad hoc subcommittee comply with the Brown Act. [5:48:19] The following requirements will not apply to ad hoc subcommittees that are established to address sensitive subjects, including those related to juveniles. [5:48:29] So that is my proposal before you said I know there's a motion in the second, but would ask it be friendly before I have to do substitute motion. [5:48:41] Okay, I do want to jump in. [5:48:45] Well you would be your name up next, so you already did. [5:48:49] All right, I appreciate that. [5:48:52] You did bring up option for so for the record option for was take no action and do not establish a policy at this time. [5:49:00] Determine transparency requirements on case by case basis, each time in an ad hoc committee subcommittee is created. [5:49:08] So I get it, but that's do nothing, that was the current, it was no change. [5:49:13] So in as far as the parents, I get the parents, but the point I brought before was you've had experts come in and there's no place to see what experts say. [5:49:28] So while we want to protect kids and perhaps we want to protect parents, why would we protect any of the organizations that I had stated. [5:49:37] Now I even know if they've come spoke other than probation because you said in the last mean probation spoke. [5:49:46] What is it that probation saying that the public can't have access to and why are they shy to say something public when it comes to policy. [5:49:55] See the issue I have as well, we have one group that's an excuse for everyone. [5:50:03] It shouldn't be an excuse. Look, you know, I know that we both agree that the only people that like to govern in secrecy or dictators and royalty, but I believe that there has to be a policy that you and I can agree on. [5:50:19] And I want you to help in it that isn't quite long that once I say this is juvenile nobody asked to accommodate anything that's crazy. [5:50:31] Having minutes coming back and saying this is the subject matter and then if there's any expertise given or county staff stuff that should be public people should have access to it. [5:50:48] So I'm trying to figure out how do we get there because I'm my job when we had youth in parents come to testify before the legislature. [5:50:56] They didn't identify themselves and they weren't on camera and in a couple of instances they actually disguise the voice because they're high profile. [5:51:06] So I get that and I'm willing to do all those things. [5:51:11] You know, should that that's a cart block for everything to be in secret that makes no sense to me. [5:51:18] I'm okay. Can I just want to say I appreciate that everyone seems very committed to transparency. [5:51:27] I think that's really valuable and I know I have been gone for four weeks and I missed that a lot of the debate that you're talking about. [5:51:38] I think part of my concern is that it sometimes a one-size-fits-all solution means that it's both over-inclusive and under-inclusive and doesn't necessarily adequately address the core of any particular challenge. [5:51:55] I'd love to hear from Supervisor Gary, but I am deeply concerned about the issues of vice chair raises. [5:52:00] I wonder if there would be a path just putting it out there to ask our vice chair and Supervisor Anderson to form a subcommittee on a transparency subcommittee. [5:52:11] And you too can come up with a recommendation. [5:52:15] Just for again, I think that this this language is helpful. It includes everything you brought for these last two times and asked this sentence to it. [5:52:31] And so I am I'm trying to get there with you in your words as well. I'm trying to get there. I think that this is this is sufficient. [5:52:40] And I would hope that you would change your motion to include it. If not, I will do a substitute motion because this is it's what you brought forward the last three times. [5:52:54] But it includes this this additional language around sensitive subjects including those related to juveniles. What you brought forward previously does not cover the population that I want to try to cover and any other thing that that may come up. [5:53:12] I have a plum was up, but if I could just go ahead. So the issue I have is your the language you proposed is I'm reading it or seeing it hearing it. [5:53:27] It allows cover not to have to say the entire committee can be silent. No where does it provide that when chief of probation comes and speaks or any other expert comes and speaks that their testimony has to be available. [5:53:46] It just says hey which kind of long. So can we narrow it so that it is now I want to point out two quick things I think there are three or four board items today they were asking for exceptions to the rules. [5:54:01] When you propose the committee in the beginning you can always make the case. This is special and we want a special rule for the subcommittee at that time because I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do every committee you bring forward moving forward. [5:54:16] I'm going to insist on the transparency you're denying me today. So instead of fighting each and every time most committees should be 100% transparent no matter what this is an exception to the rule not the rule. [5:54:32] But still even after the last board meeting there's no do we have minutes do we have any kind of for the juvenile justice where is all that stuff where is it located. [5:54:43] What I wanted to get to thank you very much and I failed to mention this last time but just for the record every single meeting the juvenile justice at Hawk committee has had has produced minutes that have been distributed to all of your offices. So there is transparency in that regard now I think that I'm also open and wanting to get to yes. [5:55:09] I've heard you mention at least five times chief Nelson and in a make sense right if she here she is in this case she's a county employee I mean there's nothing out of the ordinary that she presented it was very factual. [5:55:28] Perhaps we can arrive to yes and make an exception for or include a written statement for the record if there were a county staff participating in the subcommittee something like that if that's helpful I think that that could be a possibility. [5:55:48] I I really appreciate it and I appreciate the spirit what you're doing it the what my thought is is if it has to do with a parent or a child's testimony absolutely everyone else. [5:56:06] And it for the record all the discussions that we've had in these in the sessions have been recorded and there's been in minutes produced that have been. [5:56:17] Are there any website or any place of the public to go. [5:56:21] I don't think so. [5:56:25] That's my point well because it's not the same as your right subcommittee it's not the same as the other committee that I mean it's a very unique case this particular sensitive topics and matters that we're discussing in this particular one is going to be different we're not just going to you know. [5:56:44] What up video of testimony of children under the age of 18 or can we can we can we pause that's I just I want to I want to I want to I want to keep order I appreciate the free flowing conversation to try to reach some kind of agreement but the vice chair has her hand up so. [5:57:01] I I would I would it sounds like that. [5:57:06] You're not amenable to this. [5:57:09] I'm not in the current form because it doesn't it gives you cart block I need I want to hear what the experts have to say I want I think the public deserves to know what the experts are saying. [5:57:20] We do we do that sorry we do that and there's this there's been so much misinformation I'm not going to go through everything really I'm not because off you know the people that have spoken some of the people that speak doesn't matter what we do up here. [5:57:36] They have preconceived notions about who we are we've been called slets we've been referred to as queen in a way that. [5:57:44] Is really derogatory reminds me of back in the 90s when they were trying to say welfare queen and all that so you know it is that is what it is I don't really care it is what it is I think that because this is the the policy and the language that you brought forward and it adds one sentence I would like to do a substitute motion. [5:58:05] Okay, we have a substitute motion. [5:58:08] Okay, so I just to kind of clarify we were at procedurally we have a motion on the floor by super doesment I mean super does not understand to get by super doesment but then there's a substitute motion by super is a. [5:58:20] On going step substitute seconded by super is a Gary so we have to vote first on the substitute motion if that passes then. [5:58:28] This item passes in the form proposed by by the vice chair of that substitute motion fails we go on to continue. [5:58:38] Consider. [5:58:40] Super's interesting initial motion so. [5:58:43] Again, we'll first take a vote on and to approve to clear to just be clear a vote to approve. [5:58:50] The item continued from January 9th adopted policy to require transparency and accountability for all sport of supervisors and ad hoc subcommittees. [5:58:57] As amended with the language currently on the screen from vice chair Montgomery step. [5:59:03] Any questions. [5:59:05] Okay. [5:59:06] Please vote. [5:59:08] No, no. [5:59:09] I have my. [5:59:10] Jim here says. [5:59:11] I think. [5:59:12] I said any question I didn't see that. [5:59:14] Sorry, go ahead. [5:59:15] Super doesment. [5:59:16] Okay, yeah. [5:59:17] So I guess I'm a little bit hung up on. [5:59:21] I think the step that substitute motion is a step in the right direction. [5:59:25] It's maybe not fulfilling is as as as supervisor and once but I'm looking at. [5:59:30] I guess I'm a little squishy on sensitive subjects. [5:59:35] So without a definition, I don't know is is finance committee is sensitive subjects is. [5:59:43] Are they a personal subjects or and this I just want. [5:59:49] I'm going to turn the floor to those are questions. [5:59:52] I think for the maker of the motion. [5:59:53] So I'll turn that to to the vice chair. [5:59:56] I'll just generally for finance. [5:59:59] No. [6:00:00] Okay. [6:00:00] I think that brings, it just gives us the latitude that we need, because again, like I said, in the last meeting, I really did not understand the gravity of a fear of retaliation that some of these parents had. I didn't understand it. If I had made rules for an ad hoc subcommittee prior to that, I would not have considered that, because I didn't understand it. [6:00:29] So all I'm trying to do is leave us a room to move appropriately without holding up a process, so we can make decisions in a timely manner. That's it. [6:00:40] I'd be, I'm still asking questions. [6:00:44] Would you be a member to address personal sensitive subjects that would narrow it a little bit? [6:00:52] I don't, that is even more subjective, I think. [6:00:59] And so I wouldn't want to include that. [6:01:05] Yeah, that's narrowing it to me, but okay. [6:01:09] Thank you. I'm going to support this, because it's a step in the right direction, but I think it's way too broad. [6:01:21] And I hope that at every meeting, you give us an update on the subcommittee, because not hearing what experts say. [6:01:32] I get a carve out for parents and a carve out for juveniles, but you can't have NGOs experts, and I don't even know who's gone before the committee. [6:01:45] And I should know, the public should know, and this doesn't provide for that. [6:01:51] However, this is a baby step in the right direction, and I'm always for the right direction. [6:01:59] Okay. [6:02:00] But that's not a second. [6:02:02] Don't worry, you already have a second from Chair Pertem and Gary. [6:02:07] So thank you, Supervisor Anderson. [6:02:09] Does anyone else have any comments before we vote on the vice chair of substitute motion? [6:02:15] Okay. Please vote. [6:02:20] Chair Larson, remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present and voting aye. [6:02:25] Okay. Thank you very much. [6:02:28] So now we are moving on. [6:02:31] We're actually going to jump to item 15, and then go back to item 14. [6:02:34] So item 15, this is an item that I brought forward, which is designated in the waterfront park as the permanent home for the San Diego Regional Firefighter Memorial. [6:02:44] And we aboard policy A72. [6:02:47] If we have any public comment, we will start with that. [6:02:51] Go ahead, Andrew. [6:02:52] All right. [6:02:53] Thank you, Chair Larson. [6:02:55] We have nine requests to speak on this item. [6:02:57] Two in person and seven requesting to speak by phone. [6:03:00] Also note that we received two comments. [6:03:02] One in support and one neutral. [6:03:04] For any individuals that requested to speak on item 15, my phone. [6:03:07] Please dial in at the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you. [6:03:10] We'll begin with the in person speakers. [6:03:12] Like to invite four to ledge of the Audra and Marco Espinoza. [6:03:15] You'll have two minutes to address the board. [6:03:19] No, we're doing it. [6:03:23] We're coming back. [6:03:26] It's last. [6:03:28] How rude. [6:03:29] This is that you were cutting into my time. [6:03:32] You know what I mean, you guys don't like it, right? [6:03:34] I mean, just to be clear, your time didn't start till you started speaking. [6:03:37] I know, Tara. [6:03:38] Thank you. [6:03:39] Just giving you guys shit because that's the whole point. [6:03:43] And Jim and Joel, why do you guys keep giving your balls to you? [6:03:47] You've given your balls to these Jezebelts. [6:03:49] I don't understand. [6:03:50] Nobody has a backbone to just stand up and say, no. [6:03:55] You just cave. [6:03:57] And it's interesting that we have two minutes to talk about this. [6:04:00] I'm sure I'll have two minutes to talk about the next item. [6:04:02] And then when we're talking about 9.1 billion dollars, [6:04:05] it's like we're going to limit that for sure, [6:04:07] so that you have to talk about six different things [6:04:10] and you get 10 seconds each. [6:04:12] So nice. [6:04:13] So transparent, so countable. [6:04:15] And it's like, I mean, you guys virtue signal [6:04:19] with these type of items, as though you just do all these great things. [6:04:24] But you guys talking about hiding what's going on, [6:04:27] what children is extremely egregious. [6:04:30] Because you sit here and you're using them. [6:04:33] You're going to fill me. [6:04:34] Go ahead. [6:04:35] And you can put it on your social media. [6:04:36] I don't really care because I'm doing the same to you. [6:04:39] So what it is about transparency and accountability, [6:04:42] but you're using children. [6:04:44] And that's what's so nefarious. [6:04:46] Because it should be transparent. [6:04:48] What happens? [6:04:49] The things that you guys do. [6:04:51] And when it is, you silence it. [6:04:53] And that is what is so disgusting. [6:04:55] You will have parents come in here. [6:04:57] And ask you for help. [6:04:59] And you'll tell them that you will, Monica, right? [6:05:02] And then you just say, listen to the agency [6:05:04] where the agency then says your children are adoptable. [6:05:08] Of course you don't want people to know that. [6:05:12] Because it is detrimental to children. [6:05:15] The things that you guys engage in. [6:05:17] It's a fucking shame. [6:05:19] And then you sit up here and you're like, [6:05:21] don't hurt my feelings with calling us a slut. [6:05:25] God forbid. [6:05:26] You guys are up there. [6:05:27] That's why you got in that position. [6:05:28] If you don't have the backbone to deal with it, [6:05:30] then there's the fucking door. [6:05:36] I don't call for Mark Ospenosa. [6:05:40] Well, now here from the individuals that requested to speak [6:05:42] by phone. [6:05:43] Start with their first caller. [6:05:52] Okay. [6:05:53] Call the bell. [6:05:55] Um. [6:05:56] All right. [6:05:57] I was. [6:05:58] I have to change. [6:05:59] Anyway, [6:06:04] she made that there. [6:06:06] That since her brave firefighters spend a lot of time putting [6:06:11] out the big fires in East County. [6:06:14] The memorial should be at the more Easterly site. [6:06:19] Um. [6:06:20] So, you know, [6:06:22] some of the people who actually suffered damage. [6:06:26] There's a. [6:06:28] Uh, maybe even there should be two memorials. [6:06:32] Maybe one that waterfront park and one in East County. [6:06:37] Or arch is over the freeway. [6:06:40] Maybe instead of a. [6:06:42] Uh, tiny green sign naming it for a phone and firefighter that. [6:06:47] No one sees one testing about 60 miles an hour. [6:06:52] Another advantage of a more Easterly site is that it would live. [6:06:57] Leave more space for kids play. [6:07:00] Pick nicks or gatherings at the waterfront park itself, [6:07:05] which is what it's there for. [6:07:07] Oh, I'd probably send a mention to kids. [6:07:11] They're kind of out of pictures from what I hear about what the board does. [6:07:18] You know, [6:07:19] tearing her family. [6:07:21] Um, [6:07:23] adopting them on a. [6:07:26] I mean, [6:07:28] you don't treat them right anyway. [6:07:31] Um, so. [6:07:33] Uh, yeah. [6:07:36] So, um. [6:07:37] Yeah. [6:07:38] I think waterfront park by itself is not the best place. [6:07:43] I'm a memorial. [6:07:45] Thanks. [6:07:46] Can you take it off speaker's over? [6:07:49] You're going up for a memorial going up for firefighters. [6:07:59] Um, but just based on. [6:08:04] Uh, [6:08:05] I'm going to take it off speaker's over. [6:08:08] You're going to call her. [6:08:09] Okay. [6:08:10] Okay. [6:08:11] Okay. [6:08:12] Okay. [6:08:13] Okay. [6:08:14] Okay. [6:08:15] Okay. [6:08:16] Okay. [6:08:17] Okay. [6:08:19] I'm just going to cost. [6:08:21] And I mean, wouldn't it be awesome if it was like in lieu of just a memorial just honoring [6:08:28] their families who were left behind and giving them the money that it's going to take to install this? [6:08:36] I mean, I don't even know where the money's coming from. [6:08:39] But I mean, what am I saying, comes from us. [6:08:43] Also, yeah, I believe that, you know, these meetings are becoming just, it's just more and [6:08:54] more apparent that your jobs up there are about keeping the people divided and you are doing [6:09:04] so awesome at it. [6:09:05] And I just, you know, I, I, not that I like to stay tuned, but I have to be paying attention [6:09:11] that way. [6:09:12] There's no, the truth of what's really going on and, and you guys just get so upset about [6:09:18] your, your character being a slander, I mean, you, you create, I mean, honestly, you don't [6:09:24] like to be called queens, Monica, then don't behave like one. [6:09:28] It's truly that simple, but you guys don't like to be called out. [6:09:32] And that's what's so, that is what's so rules for me, not for me. [6:09:37] And hold on to that freedom of speech, Osirah, because you are, you're amazing girl. [6:09:42] Love you so much. [6:09:44] Done. [6:09:45] Thank you. [6:09:47] Here from the next caller. [6:09:50] Hey, it's truth, ready to take a break with two minutes, you know, it's almost like a break [6:10:01] out to speak for 60 seconds over and over and over again, but you guys would know about that, [6:10:05] right? [6:10:06] Cool. [6:10:07] I just want to refuel, I can't put them when it comes to the budget 60 seconds, something [6:10:10] actually important. [6:10:12] And I think it's a bigger picture this item, it's a much bigger picture than just a memorial, [6:10:17] because when you have a, that word, sensitive subject, I'm sensitive about this subject. [6:10:23] Let's sense it, though, then want to be Queen Monica, is about being stuck in the 90s. [6:10:27] 2026, Monica, we demand transparency and these agenda items. [6:10:31] It is weird that this item was shoved into consent. [6:10:36] It's also corrupt, but I know why this was pulled. [6:10:38] It's not the brain transparency, don't never transparency. [6:10:42] We know it because many hate America, hate law enforcement, hate first responders, and hate [6:10:48] anyone that brings good to the world, like firefighters do. [6:10:52] She's going to come up with any and every excuse on the book not to support this memorial, because [6:10:56] as much as she pretends to be someone who's struggle, nope, she's not to home. [6:11:02] That being said, it is a little weird. [6:11:04] It's to use water as a symbol of firefighters, especially down town where firefighters are [6:11:09] not primarily fighting fires, like they are in the backcountry, no thanks to the professional [6:11:13] arsonist, like the one that we just caught in Spring Valley, and like you guys do nothing about, [6:11:19] and I'm not against the memorial for firefighters, but I am against the lack of transparency [6:11:23] community to consent, because again, where was the transparency on a, who's designing this? [6:11:29] How much money does it cost? [6:11:30] What is the design? [6:11:31] I didn't get to say, and I don't remember having hearing anything about this until was put into [6:11:36] consent. [6:11:37] Plus, no heroes work anywhere near this building, so it should be in the backcountry. [6:11:43] For example, everybody saw a man he's taking pictures outside with their communist allies earlier [6:11:48] adding up to my future viral posts, and I'm thinking of which moniker, you still make speakers? [6:11:53] Was that Sarah? [6:11:54] You people need mental help, I don't just say that. [6:11:57] You prove it every single meeting. [6:11:58] Thank you. [6:12:00] You're here for the next call, I think. [6:12:08] Tam, at first, this does appear at such a, driven one, good idea, but I don't think it's that simple. [6:12:16] But I'll keep it that simple. [6:12:18] There should be the memorial here, and it should complement the law enforcement memorial that's out front. [6:12:23] Not really in the backcountry, I mean there's monuments all over this country that we don't [6:12:29] all feed because it don't live near them. [6:12:32] And the reason we should have a memorial is the women on this board have pushed the leftist [6:12:36] Marxist agenda of darkness and death, resulting in societal chaos, subhuman behavior, and poorly [6:12:43] managed environmental condition, conditions, pushing first responders to now face more danger [6:12:50] and horrific danger against themselves than ever before. [6:12:54] First responders of fire, law enforcement must always be respected, recognize and [6:12:59] on for their self-sacrifice, and the sacrifice of their family. [6:13:03] So I'm okay with this, if it maintains the simplicity of how it presents in writing, and it doesn't [6:13:11] cost an arm and a leg or add to the budget, and it should complement the law enforcement memorial. [6:13:18] But you guys, man, you know, put our first responders into a horrific danger with your [6:13:24] policies, your ideology, and your, oh, what used to be evil is now good in mentality. [6:13:31] Shame on you. [6:13:32] Thank you. [6:13:33] We'll hear from the next caller. [6:13:47] You know, I want to go in and apologize to all of you because I've went about the wrong way. [6:13:54] I should have just flat out after you, from the get go, how you go ahead and weed out non-citizens [6:14:02] from the motorals. [6:14:05] I should have reminded you right away that in 2015 we changed the rules and our previous checks [6:14:11] no longer work. [6:14:12] So basically, since 2015 until today, we have not weeded out one non-citizen except for self-reporting. [6:14:21] That's on record. [6:14:23] You guys have it. [6:14:24] You guys know that. [6:14:25] I've been waiting for you to go ahead and give me a non-repaunt so that you could go ahead and [6:14:29] do the check. [6:14:31] You're obligated under the NBRA sub-section A. [6:14:35] I highly recommend using the saybacks and go ahead and butt up the nays. [6:14:40] Do it now before they use certified election or after and then we could go ahead and play a guessing [6:14:47] game. [6:14:48] Well, enough, non-citizens voting in our left election that changed every single revolt [6:14:55] and I bet you the answer of yes. [6:14:57] I bet you they came from all the brands. [6:15:00] You look down to find out where that frog came, they're coming from those locations. If you're [6:15:05] duty to go in a look, it's not my duty to find it for you. You're not supposed to go ahead [6:15:10] and try to stop me from asking questions and you're supposed to answer this. Throwing me [6:15:15] in jail and trying to go ahead and get me arrested because I'm a dick after six years. Yeah, [6:15:21] no, that's on you. You should have answered the first time I'd asked, or the second, first [6:15:27] year, second year, third year, fourth year, fifth year, six years. How many years are you not going [6:15:33] to answer my question? Are you going to go ahead and try to throw me in jail first? Is that [6:15:39] your mind of go? So, Danyan, I understand that you defeated Trump and then we are gay. You were here [6:15:46] from the final caller. Where beefmen? Hi. Thank you for your work on the previous item. [6:16:01] agenda item. Everybody tried to figure stuff out and you're going to continue as a work and progress. [6:16:08] Thank you. It's a learning process for me too and I'm really interested how this item will progress. [6:16:13] Thank you. Previous item. What do you guess for this item? I wanted to quickly offer [6:16:20] it sounds like a very noble project what you're doing. What sort of technology accountability [6:16:27] would be a part of the future of this park? I just thought I would ask that. In the city of San Diego, [6:16:34] I feel we're having difficulties in being more clear about what exactly we were placing in the future of [6:16:39] our parks. And I feel it has to be a conversation that has to be open and regular. [6:16:46] To quickly note the city of Oakland and it's County of Alameda. I have figured out ways to leave [6:16:51] block and look for a new AR vendor by inviting a full community process in the next 18 months to decide [6:16:59] what can be a future AR vendor? That's community in action. That's looking good democracy towards [6:17:05] the future of technology. We have to really be based on that. Good community practices for [6:17:13] our future of technology to do the good technology practices with this park. It'd be in good form. [6:17:21] It'd be offering our best practices and our decent seat. Good luck and have to do that. Thank you. [6:17:27] Thank you. Chair Lossen Room and that concludes public comment on this item. [6:17:31] Okay, thank you very much. Just very happy to bring this forward. [6:17:38] It is an issue that has come before us a couple of times in terms of conversations. I think it's a [6:17:45] long time in coming and having an opportunity to honor our first responders and our particular [6:17:52] firefighters for their service and and really for their sacrifice. So I think it's very hard [6:18:02] to fully acknowledge what so many of them have given for all of us and I did want to [6:18:10] dock at this as quickly as possible because there was an interest in having this underway in time for [6:18:17] the 9-11 memorial that will be happening in September. So again, I would like to [6:18:25] make a motion to adopt this item and hope to have the support of my colleagues. Super is a degree. [6:18:35] Thank you, Madam Chair. To your point, this has been long-time coming in. We don't have a regional [6:18:44] memorial location for our firefighters who sacrifice in so many different ways in our first responder. [6:18:52] So I think that we need to honor them and I think that you bringing this forward in an urgent [6:18:59] manner is something I'm very grateful for. I just want to offer, I guess it could be a friendly amendment. [6:19:09] I want us to be intentional about what we're doing here and just what I've heard from them is that [6:19:16] they would like to locate it in site 6, which is the mayor image of where the deputies memorial is [6:19:25] on the west side of the waterfront park. So I would suggest that we just go ahead and [6:19:33] choose that location instead of leaving it up to our CAO. And then I think you have my [6:19:41] bridge. And then we also direct the CAO to come back within 90 days if it's amenable to [6:19:51] folks to add the capacity of the space for Harbor Drive so that we also don't lose space within [6:20:03] the location that I'm proposing. I'll give it over in a second to read this. [6:20:08] Yeah, first part I get the second part I know. [6:20:12] Well, there's there's hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. [6:20:16] Joel, you'll only hear you because your mic's on. So the question was what would that look like? Turn your [6:20:21] mic off. So the recommendation 3 would address any concerns related to obviously this is going to be [6:20:28] a permanent fixture. And our waterfront park hosts a lot of different events. So to a certain degree [6:20:38] we'll be losing some square footage that would be made available to potential events. So I just want [6:20:45] to add options so that we can offset that square footage that we would be losing within a memorial [6:20:51] and incorporate the option of including portions of Harbor Drive and directing staff to work with the [6:20:58] relevant jurisdictions and agencies to see if that could be feasible and that way we don't [6:21:06] it's a win-win. Okay, I have a thank you for this. I have a question. [6:21:13] If I may please go ahead. Thank you. I'm old enough on this board now. [6:21:18] Remember when we had a board chair who wanted to shut down Harbor Drive entirely and take our park [6:21:25] straight to the bay. And he also pledged $10,000 for this very event which I matched him [6:21:34] coming from my grant and I had a challenge all of you to manage my 10 grand going towards this memorial [6:21:41] from our community grant for our community. We are so fortunate you have such an incredible firefighters. [6:21:46] I think firefighters across the world are incredible, but here in San Diego they're especially awesome. [6:21:53] I didn't agree more. So that's all I have to say. And I did hear a comment earlier [6:21:58] that there were concerns about us, the county funding this and I just want to be clear that [6:22:03] that wouldn't be the case. It would be the firefighters have an ad hoc and never mind. [6:22:11] They have a task force. It's a very potent hard. But they have a task force that is ready to start [6:22:22] fundraising is my understanding. So that will be paid by them. But yeah, I mean I absolutely I would love [6:22:28] to support their fundraising efforts through it. But it would be super awesome. The first 50 grand [6:22:34] came from all of us, from our community community grants. I'm not going to put you on the spot. [6:22:43] But yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just have to have a quick question on this. [6:22:51] To better understand, I'd love us who love to be able to take this amendment, but I want to better [6:22:56] understand the implications. So this is for site 6. So I think my question is just the county staff. [6:23:05] I just tell us about site 6. Is there any concerns or potential challenges or anything [6:23:12] that needs to be assessed? You know, any kind of any, yeah. It tells us about site 6, I guess. [6:23:21] Thank you, Chair. To the Chair Pro Thames comment regarding the multiple events. This particular [6:23:27] location, I don't know what I'm looking at, is in one of locations where some of those larger events [6:23:33] that do fund park revenues and fund the operations and the maintenance of the park are held. [6:23:38] We have large stages and things like that that you have limited space to be accommodated. The water [6:23:44] from park brings in about $2 million a year. All of that goes to park operations and maintenance. [6:23:50] About half of that comes from some of our large music festivals that do use that space. [6:23:58] I think with some of the other opportunities here, we could certainly look at expanding that area [6:24:02] and not losing that space. It would be helpful for us to be able to look into that a little bit further to see [6:24:07] how we could achieve both of the objectives here of retaining revenue and achieving the board's goals [6:24:12] with the firefighter memorial. Okay. I mean, I mean, I asked my assistants from Damien because to be, [6:24:18] I feel like I'm not 100 percent point on my amendments today. But I would love to basically support what [6:24:24] Super Ziggiers put out here, but giving county direction to kind of come up with a solution [6:24:32] that moves forward with the recommended site, but doesn't constrain them to only look at the [6:24:39] solution that Super Ziggiers proposed, which is a good idea, right, which is a value in the [6:24:43] feasibility using that's great, yes and other options. Is it also, is there something about the size of [6:24:50] the memorial that might be, if it's a little or an indifferent angle that might, you know, I don't [6:24:56] know, I don't want to like tie your hands that that's your only option, but would love you guys to come up with [6:25:01] some solutions that achieve both objectives and I love what Super Ziggiers get out. I think this three is great [6:25:08] and what else? What else could we brainstorm that would allow us to continue having these amazing events [6:25:13] to water from park and honoring our, you know, frankly, our heroes who like deserve every, you know, [6:25:22] everything that we can give them to honor the sacrifices that they made. So I don't know exactly what [6:25:27] you're considering their preference, right? Yeah, that's been saying, like, leaving the little preference [6:25:31] around, like, I think it's very clear they have a preference for kind of the mirror image location [6:25:37] to the law enforcement memorial. So, you know, prioritizing that preference and saying, okay, [6:25:43] that's the preference we want to be respectful, but how can we be respectful in a way that also allows [6:25:50] us to continue utilizing the spaces. I think Super Ziggiers has been very creative here with this idea [6:25:56] of looking for the expansions of like, can we close down Harbor Drive? I think it would just be, yeah, [6:26:02] I would be a simple add-on to direct CAO to coordinate with appropriate jurisdictions to violate [6:26:08] the feasibility of utilizing portions of Harbor Drive, including Bubble Blah and other options at the end of [6:26:15] that sentence. And then, and other feasible options. And also exploring all other feasible options to continue [6:26:24] having super awesome events as per the boards used by Joe Anderson. And other feasible options [6:26:33] to continue having large scale community of center events in Waterfront Park. I don't know if this [6:26:41] of accomplishes what we need kind of counsel, but I just want them to make a plan to do both and not [6:26:47] either or. Sure, I'll just remember the elements appeared to be clear enough to provide that [6:26:54] direction. Okay, I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to accept that. As long as they have a [6:27:04] direction to look at all possibilities to do all things and not just one option. Yeah, okay, [6:27:12] happy to accept your friendly moment. Yeah, then I'll say. Yeah. Okay. Uh, super does it? [6:27:20] Well, I wish I had a map. I wish I knew it with sites you were talking about. I have no, I don't [6:27:28] love. I can't do anything. I hold on Andrew is always Andrew and handsome. Well, that would have [6:27:33] been nice before this discussion or be in our packets or something. I didn't didn't have anything here. [6:27:41] Well, look, we can all look. So we're sites. Go back to the map. [6:27:46] So, guys, we're sites six. Right there. Okay. And the other one, the law enforcement memorial, [6:27:55] okay, is over there. Okay, but right now, I guess with the amendments, we open it up to whatever [6:28:00] the best that they come back with. Is that right? Instead of specifying six. Well, we are seeing [6:28:04] prioritizing six, because that's where they want it. But we're also saying, hey, go try to make [6:28:10] it happen at six and come back with all your options to do that without sacrificing events. [6:28:14] Okay. And of course, if they come back and they say, like, we have no feasible options, [6:28:20] we might have to have another conversation. Is that, is that, is that, it's again, [6:28:27] Kenny Council is the way that the amendments drafted clear enough that that's what we want to, [6:28:33] we would like to be, to do both, and not either or. That's clear, yes. [6:28:38] Does that make, is that, makes sense to you, Supervisor doesn't? [6:28:41] I see, yeah, and now I'm screwed. I got you. [6:28:53] Yeah, okay, please, I'd love to hear from our experts. Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to clarify the [6:28:58] location and make sure that staff is understanding it correctly. On this map, the site six is [6:29:06] a little bit further from where I understood it to be. I understood it to be a direct mirror of the law enforcement [6:29:12] memorial, which would be closer to, I believe it was four and five on that map. [6:29:16] You're back up, Andrew. [6:29:17] I'm along that walkway between four and five, which would be again a direct mirror of the law enforcement memorial. [6:29:31] We do have some conceptual, we have the opportunity to create some conceptual maps that that would be helpful. [6:29:38] We could operate with the direction to have it directly mirror the law enforcement memorial, [6:29:47] and I think we can work with the firefighters to identify precisely where that location. [6:29:51] I think that's that works, because I think the my- [6:30:00] To clarify, we have a different map that showed that number four in the current map displayed is number six in the one we were given. [6:30:11] So, anyway, we can work with, so can we strike the, we'll cover, we strike the pieces of six and just as the mirror image of the law enforcement map. [6:30:21] Yeah, that's fine. Okay, let's pull that back up. [6:30:30] It is, yeah, just get rid of that, yeah. [6:30:46] Yeah, just get rid of that, yeah. [6:30:54] Wait, hold on, it was, it, we missed something. So, it was directly to the, to thank the, at prioritizing, not at prioritizing a site. [6:31:08] Prioritizing, yeah. [6:31:17] And then after waterfront park, comma, and explore. [6:31:33] Great. Okay. [6:31:36] We have a motion of the floor, amendment and a second, any additional comments. [6:31:44] Okay, please, oh. [6:31:49] Turn it last and remember that motion passes unanimously. [6:31:51] I'll supervise just being present and voting on. [6:31:55] Okay. Thank you very much. [6:31:58] So now we'll go on to item 14. [6:32:03] This is a doctor resolution, the men, the Board of Supervisors July 2026 meeting calendar. [6:32:08] And it's up the ace of any two waiver. [6:32:11] This item has been barboard because we're not expecting any items from staff in this meeting. [6:32:17] Any comments from my colleagues at this time? [6:32:24] Any comments from the public? [6:32:28] Andrew. [6:32:30] Yes, Chair, thank you. We have nine requests to speak on this item. [6:32:33] Two in person seven requesting we speak by phone. [6:32:36] Also, note for the record that we received three e-commerce in opposition. [6:32:40] For any individuals that requested to speak on item 14 by phone. [6:32:44] Please dial in to the conference line using the instructions that were provided to you. [6:32:48] We'll begin with the in person speakers. [6:32:50] Allegedly, Audra has already approached the podium and also liked to invite. [6:32:53] Thank you. [6:32:55] Two minutes to address the board. [6:32:57] I've been brought my gavel just in case you like me to take over the meetings in July. [6:33:01] The general good business done, make sure the budget is spent wisely. [6:33:04] Children aren't being trafficked. Humans aren't being exploited. [6:33:07] That the homeless get into housing. [6:33:09] And you guys quick, racketeering. [6:33:11] That wouldn't allow you guys to continue. [6:33:14] You're arguing. [6:33:15] It's crimes in to get so. [6:33:17] That's not going to happen. [6:33:18] And I find it interesting. [6:33:19] It's like people are all worried about feelings. [6:33:22] So maybe while you guys are in your little break, you can think about, [6:33:25] I mean, what would it like if you got the shit beaten out of you by an officer? [6:33:30] I don't know. [6:33:31] You guys would probably play a card. [6:33:33] Monaco would play a black car. [6:33:34] People would play a brown card. [6:33:36] And Terry would play your due card. [6:33:38] So it's like, I don't know. [6:33:39] What card do I get to play? [6:33:41] Being of the light and just, you know, being the salt. [6:33:44] And the light and coming in with truth. [6:33:46] While you guys are just filled with sulfur. [6:33:48] It's interesting. [6:33:50] How like people are concerned about feelings. [6:33:53] Better if I was black or brown or Jewish. [6:33:57] And, you know, got beat up in that hallway. [6:34:00] Dang. [6:34:01] People would be pissed. [6:34:02] You imagine. [6:34:03] But being a native of American doesn't matter. [6:34:06] And because I'm also white. [6:34:07] Oh, number one. [6:34:09] But we don't know what that is. [6:34:10] So it's like, I mean, I guess that's why it doesn't matter. [6:34:13] You know what I mean? [6:34:14] I don't check enough boxes. [6:34:15] So I mean, you could ask people. [6:34:17] And you think I would. [6:34:19] I mean, people think I'm on the left. [6:34:21] Some people think I'm on the right. [6:34:22] People are very confused. [6:34:24] But it's just that. [6:34:27] It's sad to see you guys sit there and. [6:34:29] Oh, poor me about names. [6:34:32] All your own constituents have gotten the crap beat. [6:34:35] Not of them. [6:34:36] Right. Right in front of you. [6:34:37] Right in front of you. [6:34:39] And it didn't matter. [6:34:40] But yet we talk about our feelings. [6:34:42] And we do want to silence free speech. [6:34:45] Because it's so hurtful to how people say names. [6:34:49] Again, imagine if you were still injured. [6:34:53] From having the shit beat and out of you by a man to his extremely proud of it. [6:35:00] Good job. [6:35:01] Now, here for the individuals, I request you to speak by all. [6:35:04] We'll start with the first call. [6:35:12] Oh, Lord. [6:35:13] ум. [6:35:15] Um, [6:35:16] May. [6:35:18] I like you want to break from hearing that the message you create. [6:35:22] But, seriously, I think that it would be good to keep the date for meeting open and [6:35:31] less than the items are always cropping up. [6:35:36] If you do this, the next Gregor board meeting would be August 18, in fact, the rules of procedures [6:35:46] just that board meetings be held weekly and less otherwise get so much later every two months [6:35:56] would really be pushing it, you know, especially one-on-a-half months to mid-August. [6:36:07] You need to take care of the people, not make them wait if they actually do need your services. [6:36:15] You can cancel later if there's no new business or emergency business or something of that sort. [6:36:24] And people would have a firm date to go on for their fix or, you know, whatever. [6:36:33] But, if that firm date to go on to put down on their calendar, another thing, if you can tell [6:36:46] us for a head that there will be no items on July 14th, maybe you are in fact able to add [6:36:56] the items a few weeks earlier, as it was suggested previously, so now it all goes back to [6:37:09] transparency and I mean, if you don't have, thank you, we'll hear from the next caller. [6:37:26] I'm sure you're just chiming in to urge and encourage the board to start listening to people [6:37:38] great suggestions like all the bold and all the amazing people who are doing what they can, [6:37:48] look at attention and aren't getting paid for either, I mean, I'm not really paying that close to the [6:38:01] attention, because I don't have a system to help me out with my children and yeah, but I'm still [6:38:13] interested in still chiming in, and that's all I have to say, because I'm truly, I don't even know [6:38:17] what item we're on. Thank you. Thank you, here from the next caller. [6:38:29] Hey, it's true, so as I'm eating my wonderful stir fry here, you know, have a life. I'm wondering is this item [6:38:35] is this an unofficial vacation in July to celebrate herers charter destruction going on the ballot? [6:38:42] Hi, how it seems, because I'm sure you guys have some other evil stuff you could pass in July, right? [6:38:47] But this is actually my favorite agenda item of all time. I mean, I'm all time. I always support [6:38:54] cancel meetings, of course. I mean, I think while you're there, you should cancel August, September, [6:38:59] October, November, December, canceled the 2027 meetings. But I want to give you reasons why, [6:39:05] why you should cancel all meetings, including next month. You had a Korean flip manny on the ad box [6:39:12] thing. Wow, someone's like, they don't just like, came up on you, like, through a tremendous money. [6:39:17] And you have a whole, a whole board of privileged people with multiple homes pretending they can relate to [6:39:24] a regular people. And that's the difficulty of talking about manny, and I'm talking about Monica, [6:39:28] pretending you can relate. The county can't even get the maps right. You had two different maps going, [6:39:33] what map did the public get? Who knows? Who cares, right? That goes back to the transparency thing. [6:39:39] That's on the list. You have a city of Senegal bias against the backcountry. That's another reason [6:39:44] to cancel meeting. You have county council, just bad and unlawful legal advice constantly, [6:39:50] could totally unqualified. Of course, I've covered that. You also have a lot of crazy things that are said. [6:39:56] I think that alone is a reason to cancel the meeting, so we can have some sanity. I want to give [6:40:00] just one example. Monica, you're not the example today. She's still happy. I am technically the mayor's [6:40:05] good need of. Oh, sorry, I got this the wrong one. I was trying to play the one where, uh, [6:40:10] Randy said, uh, we need more inclusivity because uh, it's exclusive to not have inclusivity. It's, yeah, [6:40:16] it's just so crazy. But at the same time, a kind of change in your mind. Let's have this meeting in July [6:40:22] and cancel the one in August. That would work better for me because, you know, this is a torture [6:40:27] chamber of selfishness. So I think that makes sense, right? Thank you. Here from the next caller. [6:40:41] Actor. Oh, yeah. The resolution. [6:40:48] Okay. Thank you. Oh, here from the next caller. [6:40:58] Hi, Blair Beakman. Thank you. Interesting item. This is both the city of San Diego and the city of [6:41:10] Oakland. You know, I was from originally from the Bay Area and I still attend the city of Oakland [6:41:15] public meetings. Both of your meetings, your camps, you're, they're both of their meetings. They're [6:41:21] ending in mid July. And it sounds like you guys are following the same practice. It seems to be a group [6:41:27] effort here that wants to cancel end of July meetings. I don't know why that is. Could that be given some [6:41:34] explanation and understanding? I personally feel July meetings for government bodies. They tend to be [6:41:41] more open and free and, and, and, and, and, and good thinking, uh, kind of robust thinking actually in July. [6:41:47] So I'm kind of surprised. Uh, this is happening. Uh, if some explanations could be given, [6:41:53] that would be great, uh, possibly in why it's happening across the state. Um, would be helpful. [6:41:59] And, uh, I didn't mad, uh, just, uh, I hope I could be attending a few more county meetings. And it was [6:42:09] nice to hear your work in efforts today. And, um, good luck on building, um, equity before austerity. [6:42:15] I've learned that importantly in San Diego, uh, the city. They've done great work in that area, [6:42:21] uh, good luck in, um, those sort of, those sort of efforts. Thank you. [6:42:26] Thank you. Here from the next caller. [6:42:28] Emo stated, go ahead and close up the meetings. Go ahead and figure out what you want to [6:42:44] go ahead and do, um, because regardless, NBRA requires you to go ahead and make sure you make a reasonable [6:42:52] effort to purchase files. If you have it, you're going to have to immediately purchase files. [6:43:00] I think I won. And then when you purchase these files, thank you, Damon. You're going to be the [6:43:05] one that's going to go ahead and show the world that San Diego allows more non-citizens to vote than citizens. [6:43:15] You're going to be the one that's going to go ahead and show that. And then we're going to go ahead and [6:43:18] explain through the board members that all their actions that they've been taking. [6:43:25] They probably should have addressed the elections. And that says they are accomplices. You know, [6:43:30] under the NBRA, subtext, uh, I'm sorry, uh, election code 18, 500. If that's the reason why you've [6:43:39] never went in and looked at it because by looking at it, you're going to have to address it. By [6:43:44] pretending you don't, you don't recognize the fact that you're not doing these projects. [6:43:49] The fact that you refuse to listen to anyone telling you these things, [6:43:54] oh yeah, no, I'm going to rub your nose in it. You're going to go ahead and provide me that documentation. [6:43:59] Then you're going to go ahead and identify the non-citizens vote. Then you're going to have to make a [6:44:03] tough decision. Are you going to deport all of them? Are you going to charge all of them 100,000 [6:44:11] or are you going to put all of them in federal prison? We're committing that crime that you [6:44:15] allowed them to commit. That you protected them to prevent. Are you going to go ahead and call out [6:44:22] the NGOs that are actually voting for these people? All these questions, you're going to have to [6:44:27] ask yourself, answer what? And after you get me that thing, 90 days after that, you'll have to go ahead [6:44:35] and you know, who's something about it? I'm not sure if you want to go ahead and go to jail for [6:44:41] committing fraud. Thank you and Chair Lawson River, that concludes public comment on this item. [6:44:47] Okay, turn the floor to super is there, Anderson? I don't have a problem supporting this today, but I had to [6:45:00] We were going to submit, that's all ready to go for that meeting. We have a bunch of stuff coming [6:45:10] up at the election time and I saw that F3FM3 research in ironwood, public affairs. They had renewed [6:45:19] contracts and saw my board of theirs going to request that they do any election or polling or [6:45:26] any of that information presented to the entire board, but I just want to give you a heads up on that [6:45:31] because I want to give them ample time. So I don't think it's going to make any difference, [6:45:37] but I was concerned about the timeline getting pushed back too far. [6:45:41] Okay. Thank you. Thank you for making that statement. So now, they'll be ready. [6:45:46] Yes. Yes. Okay. Great. Happy to make a motion. [6:45:52] Okay, do we have a second from the vice chair? Please vote. [6:45:57] Chair Lawson, remember that motion passes unanimously with all supervisors being present [6:46:02] and voting aye. Okay. Thank you very much. I think we now are done with the items on the agenda, [6:46:09] except for closed sessions. We're going to not agenda public comment and then to close session. [6:46:14] Thank you, Chair Lawson, remember. We have 18 remaining requests to speak a matter, [6:46:17] is not listed on the agenda. 10 individuals in person and eight requesting to speak by phone. [6:46:23] So those that request to speak by phone, please dial in with conference sign using the instructions [6:46:27] that we're provided to you. Begin with the in-person speakers, not seeing any individuals in the chamber. [6:46:33] I'll just run through the names just in case they happen to be in the hallway or across the hall. [6:46:38] Andrew Lawson, Marcos Benosa, Skylar Smith, Carolina Garcia, [6:46:44] Zett C. Dante and Asyn Chang, and one now here from those that requested to speak by phone, [6:46:55] we'll start with our first caller. Again, you'll have two minutes to address the board. [6:47:02] Next speaker is Terry Anne Scully, the device might be muted. [6:47:24] And we can come back to you. [6:47:32] Great. Let's be down with us. It's true. American citizens of here. [6:47:40] Question for Terry. What is the line of rampant trust? And how does that relates to your third [6:47:46] house among the needs to drive in the city of Fed Diego? Do you actually live in D3 or not? [6:47:51] Question number two for two homes manning. Was that Norris left over flowers on your head yesterday [6:47:56] because that sure looked like at Puyaco. On June 5th, Manila held the first Friday breakfast [6:48:01] at the San New Country Club in Chulavista about connecting local businesses to county resources, [6:48:05] only if they paid a $27 entry fee for access to those county resources paid a play corruption. [6:48:11] Then she wasted her tax dollars on an egotistical logo for a crowd dub where she lied about her first name, [6:48:17] lied about being a surfer rather than the bodyboarder she used to be and lied about ever protecting our [6:48:23] national environment. On December 20th, Manila also had a turkey giveaway. We are our special event [6:48:28] trust on where she gave up $754 worth of turkey to $57. Sia, you members closed off to the public. [6:48:35] November 25, despite receiving $179,000 from UBW, Manila Ploma owed $2600 to property taxes and [6:48:43] racked up $44,000 in campaign debt. If you had an event, I'm very proud of where someone could pay $200. [6:48:48] She'd become a friend who retires her campaign debt. The show of pattern and practice we never [6:48:53] forget her and her debt be $32,000 credit card debt as fake roughly, but let's look to the June 18th [6:48:58] voice of San Diego South County report post. To provide your GLA held a fundraiser at a downtown [6:49:03] San Diego wine bar to help pay off at least $67,000 on pesos from her race last year. Breakfast show [6:49:09] a GLA spent close to $629,000 in quotes. Moots for Manila, how did you go from $44,000 to $67,000 [6:49:17] at that in only seven months? Why is there many paying her own bills for their $200,000 plus [6:49:21] of your supervisor salary? Maybe get a real job. There was even an event at the Sweetwater Valley [6:49:27] Cliff, a Civic Association, where Manila left before doing the pledge because, of course, [6:49:31] she hates America. As a Civic Engage citizen said, you don't have the right to leave. [6:49:36] You have the wish to represent and you guys are failing miserably. Have a great day. [6:49:42] Thank you. We'll hear from the next call. [6:49:47] Why does the heck go? I wish you guys would go to Zoom, like a city of San Diego, to Zoom meetings, [6:49:59] and that would make it a lot easier to call in and listen and everything. Even your technology [6:50:04] person, I haven't learned how to do Bluetooth, so you wouldn't have to plug in the computer to put it [6:50:11] up the screen. Maybe hire a young guy. They could even do Bluetooth from home and put things on the [6:50:20] screen, so it would make it easier for everyone to access the meetings. It's kind of unfortunate [6:50:28] you guys are taking July off, so it seems like a lot of stuff happened. July is the, it's white history [6:50:34] month in July and then every other day and like the odd number of days are going to be [6:50:42] white supremacy days and then like the first one July first is going to be examples of white supremacy [6:50:50] and it's going to be like to the black community where they're all into wrapping and stuff. [6:50:55] But the best wrapper in the whole world is a white guy. Eminem. So maybe white people are superior. [6:51:04] Eminem, man, talk to any black rapper or all of them. He did it all of the guys. Eminem is the man. [6:51:11] There's another white supremacy thing. I don't know, man, but then on the second day, [6:51:16] we'll just go with a regular white hero and it will pick out a woman to you. You'll watch drives as a white [6:51:26] person. Have a good day, man. Have a good day. [6:51:33] We'll hear from the next caller. Pam, oh, a couple things. Did you all miss that July 27th is [6:51:46] Tara's birthday. So maybe that's why she wants the month off. Second of all, did Paloma start a [6:51:53] merch business with her new logo and I would love to reiterate the good news from the US Supreme [6:51:59] Court today, ruled in favor of President Trump, Linnocene, the number of asylum seekers in [6:52:03] America and revoking the temporary status of serians and Haitians and others. I suggest you read it. [6:52:10] So you're educated. So you know exactly what's happening because this is America first. [6:52:16] Sadly, children continue to be under threat in this county because of the agenda of darkness and death [6:52:21] pushed by the win on this board. abortion kills pre-born humans, surgically or by the abortion pill. [6:52:28] I bet the three of you women, even though Tara's not there, is thrilled. More abortions have been [6:52:35] committed since row with 330,000 babies killed by the abortion pill alone. And that's just maybe the [6:52:44] numbers that are known and then bless their hearts. Those babies are expelled and flushed down the [6:52:50] toilets. The ideology of transgenderism also threatens children. It's blatantly in their faces during [6:52:56] Pride Month and many other special days of the calendar year. This county redefined women to include [6:53:01] men, you know, individual born with a penis, granting them privileged position to pretend to be [6:53:08] women and in days basis for girls and women. You know, anyone can be a predator. Ninn, women, [6:53:15] straight, tram, gay, lesbian. Predatory behavior includes sexualizing and grooming children by strangers [6:53:23] or even parents and people that they know. And in some instances or most instances, [6:53:30] they harm children to the point that children will not know when they're being raped or how to [6:53:35] say no or when to seek help. Ratings, hospital, is such a predator by committing and performing barbaric [6:53:44] Thank you. There's a red skull. Hi, Natalie Rashke. I just wanted to say that I'm not [6:53:57] looking for anyone to save me when it comes to the EHVs, everybody in the city is on a weight list. So there's [6:54:05] about 358 or 85 EHV holders that will become homeless in November 30th. I'm just curious [6:54:12] when the city and the county come together and push the federal government on doing these things. [6:54:21] I was told I had 1230. So I planned my life around that. I didn't create COVID. I speak on the [6:54:28] half of a lot of people that don't have the ability to come and speak. Whatever I need to do, [6:54:36] to put myself in front of a federal government, I've been in contact with Sarah Jacobs office. [6:54:43] They contacted HUD. I still haven't got a response. There's no urgency. In November 30th, there will be [6:54:50] over a thousand people that will become homeless. I'm not sure if the county and the city communicate [6:54:56] how that's going to affect the whole of San Diego. Thank you. Thank you, we'll hear from the next [6:55:05] caller. Thank you. Good afternoon. This is Kathleen with it. I'd like to talk about this [6:55:18] our two biggest problems in the United States, as far as drug use, combining alcohol and [6:55:24] pot. A alcohol and marijuana industries have run a decades long campaign of normalization. And the [6:55:31] marijuana industry effort to give marijuana better name led to public acceptance of it as a natural [6:55:38] therapeutic and even harmless. Public officials prioritize potential tax revenues incentivized by [6:55:45] industry lobbying and the lie that the potential tax revenues would compensate for the harms. [6:55:52] They don't. Alcohol is the number one drug in the U.S. for which Americans seek treatment. That's [6:55:59] combined with the increasing normalization of marijuana has led to a cluster of social and physiological [6:56:05] harms, including greater and longer lasting driving impairment, and either drugs use separately, [6:56:13] even in small doses. Gamma research validated that finding in their study of the co-use of cannabis [6:56:20] animals and alcohol. This phenomenon is called the normalization of deviance. It's a phenomenon that [6:56:31] leads to the false assumption that something risky is safe. Public health needs clear and evidence-based [6:56:38] messaging of the risks of psychoactive drugs and failure to provide that messaging has contributed [6:56:45] to the false confidence, but the risks of both these drugs are acceptable. Thank you very much for letting me speak. [6:56:55] Thank you. We're now here from the final caller. [6:56:58] Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. My name is Terry and Scaly and I work with my county planning group on [6:57:10] good public health and safety policies in land use decisions. I read that the City of San Diego approved [6:57:17] policies on Monday that would create a registration process for populations from outside the City of [6:57:24] San Diego that are delivering in the city but are not one of the city's permitted pot shops. [6:57:30] Their new policy would include those who are permitted to operate in other jurisdictions, [6:57:35] most registered if operating in the city. However, they were speakers who said they were going to [6:57:41] receive permits from the county and did not want to register for a permit to deliver into San Diego [6:57:47] where they live and plan to deliver pot. That's for the scary declaration for two reasons. [6:57:54] Number one, it is the county, SCCP, just another example of those who don't live out here in the [6:58:01] unincorporated communities want to come here to harm it by high profile pot shops. And number two, [6:58:08] it may be wonder about all those pot entrepreneurs who continuously tell us that they're providing a [6:58:15] necessary service. However, they don't want to abide by the rules and registration in the city of San [6:58:21] Diego to deliver pot there yet intent to deliver there. That makes the public wonder if the real motive [6:58:28] behind selling pot is just funny. Which has always been the motive behind selling any kind of drugs. [6:58:36] Thank you for hearing my concerns this afternoon. Thank you, Vice Chairman, I'm going to [6:58:41] re-step that concludes the request for non-agenda public communication for this session. [6:58:46] Okay, we will now go to close session meeting. It's adjourned. Thank you. [6:58:51] The board will now recess into close session to continue consideration of the matters listed in [6:58:57] item 11 and IHSS one on yesterday's agenda. If there are any reportable actions they will be reported [6:59:04] after the conclusion of close session today.