1 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 >> good evening. 2 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:13,100 welcome to the thursday august 27, 3 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,100 2026 regular city college of san 4 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,401 francisco board of trustees 5 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:25,100 meeting, we are back and ready to 6 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:27,100 rumble, we have a packed agenda 7 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:30,100 today, so we'll jump right into it, 8 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,100 welcome. 9 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,100 can we please take roll? 10 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,100 >> sure. 11 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:36,100 we have student trustee wong? 12 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,100 >> present. 13 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:38,100 >> president chisti? 14 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,100 >> present. 15 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,100 >> trustee chung? 16 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:42,100 >> present. 17 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,100 >> trustee ferguson? 18 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,100 >> present. 19 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:45,100 >> trustee martinez? 20 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,100 >> here. 21 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,100 >> trustee mccarty, not here yet. 22 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,100 trustee solomon? 23 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,100 >> here. 24 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:52,100 >> vice-president zamora? 25 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:53,100 >> here. 26 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:56,100 >> you have a quorum, president chisti. 27 00:22:56,100 --> 00:23:00,201 >> for the record, it was at 5:05, I 28 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,100 convened the meeting. 29 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,100 I'm going to turn it over to student 30 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,100 trustee wong to help with the land 31 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,100 acknowledgment statement. 32 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,100 >> "we acknowledge that we are on the 33 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,100 unceded ancestral homeland of the 34 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100 ramaytush ohlone who are the original 35 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:13,100 inhabitants of the san francisco 36 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,100 peninsula, as the indigenous stewards 37 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,100 of this land and in accordance with 38 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,100 their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone 39 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,100 have never ceded, lost nor forgotten 40 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,100 their responsibilities as the 41 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:19,100 caretakers of this place, as well as 42 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:20,100 for all peoples who reside in their 43 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,100 traditional territory, as guests, we 44 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,100 recognize that we benefit from living 45 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,100 and working on their traditional 46 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100 homeland, we wish to pay our respects 47 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100 by acknowledging the ancestors, elders 48 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,100 and relatives of the ramaytush 49 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,100 community and by affirming their 50 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:30,100 sovereign rights as first peoples." 51 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,401 >> thank you so much. 52 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:46,100 okay. 53 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,100 before I ask my colleagues for a 54 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:52,100 motion to adjourn to closed session, I 55 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:55,100 would like to call public comment on 56 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:59,100 the closed session agenda which is 1a, 57 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,401 2a, 3a, 5a, 6a1. 58 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,100 any public comment? 59 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,100 >> there's no public comment on the 60 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,100 closed session agenda. 61 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,100 >> wonderful, colleagues, can I have a 62 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,100 motion to adjourn to closed session? 63 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,100 >> so moved. 64 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,100 >> moved by v.p. Zamora. 65 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:17,100 >> seconded. 66 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,401 >> seconded by trustee ferguson. 67 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,100 seeing no further discussion, could we 68 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,100 please take roll. 69 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:25,100 >> student trustee campos -- I mean wong? 70 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,100 >> aye. 71 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,100 >> sorry, you just resemble her. 72 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,100 trustee chisti? 73 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,100 >> aye. 74 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,100 >> can I have some information, 75 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,100 president chisti, is this what it 76 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:42,100 looks like on the website because it 77 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100 doesn't list any of the agenda items? 78 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,100 >> when you can click on the link. 79 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,100 >> aye. 80 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:49,100 >> thank you. 81 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100 >> trustee ferguson? 82 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,100 >> aye. 83 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100 >> trustee martinez? 84 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,100 >> yes. 85 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,100 >> trustee mccarty, not quite here yet. 86 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,100 trustee solomon? 87 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,100 >> yes. 88 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,100 >> vice-president zamora? 89 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,100 >> aye. 90 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,100 >> thank you. 91 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:03,100 motion passes. 92 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,100 >> alright, it is passed without 93 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:07,100 objection, we are estimating we are 94 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,100 adjourned to closed session with an 95 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,100 estimated return time with an 96 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,100 ambitious 7 p.m., thank you very much. 97 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,100 (meeting adjourned to closed session). 98 03:30:29,000 --> 03:30:32,100 >> okay, I am reconvening the board 99 03:30:32,100 --> 03:30:36,201 from closed seg at 8:14 p.m. Moving 100 03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:43,100 along to reportable actions taken in 101 03:30:43,100 --> 03:30:44,100 closed session. 102 03:30:44,100 --> 03:30:45,100 before we do that, we know the closed 103 03:30:45,100 --> 03:30:47,100 session ran a bit long, thank you to 104 03:30:47,100 --> 03:30:49,100 the members of the public for your 105 03:30:49,100 --> 03:30:52,100 patience as we conferred over several 106 03:30:52,100 --> 03:30:54,100 items in closed session. 107 03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:57,100 there were reportable actions taken in 108 03:30:57,100 --> 03:31:00,100 closed session and I will read three 109 03:31:00,100 --> 03:31:02,100 reportable actions that were taken. 110 03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:06,100 the first is the board voted to amend 111 03:31:06,100 --> 03:31:09,100 the chancellor's contract to allow for 112 03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:12,100 a rolling three year contract based on 113 03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:15,100 a satisfactory evaluation from the 114 03:31:15,100 --> 03:31:19,201 board, the vote was 5 in favor and 2 115 03:31:20,100 --> 03:31:21,100 against. 116 03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:24,100 the second item is in the matter of 117 03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:27,100 anymore versus ccsf, the board 118 03:31:28,100 --> 03:31:30,100 unanimously voted in favor of 119 03:31:30,100 --> 03:31:31,100 approving the segment agreement. 120 03:31:31,100 --> 03:31:35,100 and the third reportable action is in 121 03:31:35,100 --> 03:31:39,100 the matter of e. Reyes v. Ccsf, 122 03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:42,100 the board voted unanimously in 123 03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:46,100 approving the settlement agreement. 124 03:31:46,100 --> 03:31:49,100 I'm going to move us along to the 125 03:31:49,100 --> 03:31:51,100 next item which is the notice of 126 03:31:51,100 --> 03:31:54,601 decorum, our meeting will be in 127 03:31:55,100 --> 03:31:57,100 accordance to bp1.12 and make sure 128 03:31:57,100 --> 03:32:00,100 that we maintain decorum at our board 129 03:32:00,100 --> 03:32:01,100 meeting. 130 03:32:01,100 --> 03:32:03,100 we're going to go to the next item 131 03:32:03,100 --> 03:32:06,100 which is public comment for items no 132 03:32:06,100 --> 03:32:08,100 on the agenda. 133 03:32:08,100 --> 03:32:10,100 mr. Shimanski, do we have any public 134 03:32:10,100 --> 03:32:12,100 comment not on the agenda? 135 03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:15,100 >> we do, we have a total of 11 this 136 03:32:15,100 --> 03:32:16,100 evening. 137 03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:18,100 >> if you can call three at a time 138 03:32:18,100 --> 03:32:20,100 and members of the public, if you 139 03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:22,100 could be close to the microphone or be 140 03:32:22,100 --> 03:32:24,100 ready when you hear your name so we 141 03:32:24,100 --> 03:32:25,100 can keep the pace. 142 03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:27,100 >> salute. 143 03:32:35,100 --> 03:32:38,100 first is james a. Bryant. 144 03:32:40,100 --> 03:32:43,100 mr. Bryant, when you step to the 145 03:32:43,100 --> 03:32:46,100 podium, please be sure to turn on 146 03:32:46,100 --> 03:32:48,100 the mic. 147 03:32:56,100 --> 03:33:00,201 >> if you could please turn on your 148 03:33:02,100 --> 03:33:04,100 mic., and then let's go ahead and 149 03:33:04,100 --> 03:33:06,100 start the clock, thank you. 150 03:33:06,100 --> 03:33:10,201 >> thank you, this is a certificate of 151 03:33:11,100 --> 03:33:13,401 completion for construction management 152 03:33:15,100 --> 03:33:18,601 protocol classes here at city college. 153 03:33:20,100 --> 03:33:24,100 I wanted to first of all let you know 154 03:33:24,100 --> 03:33:28,100 this group of gentlemen and this lady 155 03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:31,601 were from the bayview hunter's point. 156 03:33:32,100 --> 03:33:36,100 we have one college that represents us 157 03:33:36,100 --> 03:33:39,100 at city college and that's the evans 158 03:33:39,100 --> 03:33:42,100 campus, that is currently being 159 03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:46,100 reconstructed. 160 03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:54,100 on tuesday, the three of us and this 161 03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:58,100 young man, the four of us plus one 162 03:33:58,100 --> 03:34:01,601 other gentleman went to the campus 163 03:34:02,100 --> 03:34:04,100 because we obviously see there's 164 03:34:04,100 --> 03:34:06,100 construction going on. 165 03:34:06,100 --> 03:34:09,100 these gentlemen are all contractors. 166 03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:13,100 they are not getting any work from 167 03:34:13,100 --> 03:34:16,100 city college, not only out here where 168 03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:18,100 we see that city college is doing a 169 03:34:18,100 --> 03:34:22,100 lot of great things in developing and 170 03:34:22,100 --> 03:34:26,100 building but in the heart of where we 171 03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:29,100 live in hunter's point, there is no -- 172 03:34:29,100 --> 03:34:32,100 not one person that is part of that 173 03:34:32,100 --> 03:34:36,201 construction that is of the sense of 174 03:34:38,100 --> 03:34:41,601 home owners and taxpayers and business 175 03:34:44,100 --> 03:34:47,601 conductors in this city at bayview 176 03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:52,801 hunter's point and we are -- so, we 177 03:34:53,100 --> 03:34:56,601 approached the contractor and we asked 178 03:34:57,100 --> 03:34:59,100 one thing, we said, could we have your 179 03:34:59,100 --> 03:35:01,100 card because we would like to find out 180 03:35:01,100 --> 03:35:05,100 if we could be part of any development 181 03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:09,201 that you do because we have plumbers, 182 03:35:10,100 --> 03:35:14,100 we have construction crews and we have 183 03:35:14,100 --> 03:35:17,601 painters, we have all kinds of 184 03:35:18,100 --> 03:35:21,100 individuals that obviously need to be 185 03:35:21,100 --> 03:35:23,401 part of an opportunity. 186 03:35:27,100 --> 03:35:30,100 >> we will have to -- 187 03:35:30,100 --> 03:35:32,100 >> I hear your thing but I want to 188 03:35:32,100 --> 03:35:33,100 finish, okay. 189 03:35:33,100 --> 03:35:35,100 this is a college that I've been part 190 03:35:35,100 --> 03:35:36,100 of. 191 03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:38,100 >> I'm sorry, your time is up, if you 192 03:35:38,100 --> 03:35:41,100 could please wrap up your points, your 193 03:35:41,100 --> 03:35:42,100 time is up. 194 03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:45,100 >> can I give him my minutes? 195 03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:47,100 >> he can have mine. 196 03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:48,100 >> so, thank you. 197 03:35:48,100 --> 03:35:51,100 >> if you would like to sign up 198 03:35:51,100 --> 03:35:52,100 separately for public comment -- 199 03:35:52,100 --> 03:35:55,601 >> there are two public comments -- 200 03:35:56,100 --> 03:35:58,100 shawn, can you pause the bell, 201 03:35:58,100 --> 03:36:00,100 please, there are two public comments 202 03:36:00,100 --> 03:36:02,100 that are in reference to this, the 203 03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:05,601 other one I believe is demetrius 204 03:36:08,100 --> 03:36:10,100 williams. 205 03:36:10,100 --> 03:36:12,100 >> and alphonso. 206 03:36:13,100 --> 03:36:15,100 >> yes, we have all written letters 207 03:36:15,100 --> 03:36:16,100 to the chancellor. 208 03:36:16,100 --> 03:36:19,100 so, I ask for your appreciation on 209 03:36:19,100 --> 03:36:22,601 that, I'm a 70 year-old gentleman that 210 03:36:23,100 --> 03:36:26,100 may not be as fast as some of you 211 03:36:26,100 --> 03:36:28,100 youngsters, so I'm going to be 212 03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:30,100 articulate and take my time and not be 213 03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:33,100 looking like a fool, okay. 214 03:36:33,100 --> 03:36:37,100 I spent a lot of years here at this 215 03:36:37,100 --> 03:36:38,100 college. 216 03:36:38,100 --> 03:36:41,100 if you don't know me, I'm james 217 03:36:41,100 --> 03:36:44,601 bryant, in 1998, I closed this college 218 03:36:45,100 --> 03:36:47,100 down on strike, all nine campuses. 219 03:36:47,100 --> 03:36:50,601 I am the representative formally of 220 03:36:54,100 --> 03:36:57,100 seiu790 and here as a proud number, 221 03:36:57,100 --> 03:37:00,100 not only am I a graduate here, I'm 222 03:37:00,100 --> 03:37:03,100 also a former police officer. 223 03:37:05,100 --> 03:37:07,100 so I'm very respective with whoever we 224 03:37:07,100 --> 03:37:10,100 work with, so when we met with you all 225 03:37:10,100 --> 03:37:14,100 with the staff that was at the 226 03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:17,100 college, the contractor, they called 227 03:37:18,100 --> 03:37:20,100 us thugs. 228 03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:23,100 we don't deserve that, not one of us 229 03:37:23,100 --> 03:37:24,100 deserve that. 230 03:37:24,100 --> 03:37:26,100 what we do deserve is to have an 231 03:37:26,100 --> 03:37:30,100 opportunity to be part of the build 232 03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:33,100 of this college because we all have 233 03:37:33,100 --> 03:37:35,100 spent many years in making san 234 03:37:35,100 --> 03:37:37,100 francisco better and we hope that we 235 03:37:37,100 --> 03:37:40,601 can have a relationship with this 236 03:37:43,100 --> 03:37:45,100 great school, I call it great because 237 03:37:45,100 --> 03:37:49,100 as a kid grew up in the university 238 03:37:49,100 --> 03:37:52,100 michigan in ann arbor, michigan, city 239 03:37:52,100 --> 03:37:54,100 college of san francisco was always 240 03:37:54,100 --> 03:37:57,100 the heart of me as a kid because it 241 03:37:57,100 --> 03:38:00,100 was the biggest city college in the 242 03:38:00,100 --> 03:38:02,100 history of the state of california 243 03:38:02,100 --> 03:38:05,100 and you have to respect that if you 244 03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:08,100 don't, I just waned to tell you that. 245 03:38:08,100 --> 03:38:10,100 we're all here, we want an 246 03:38:10,100 --> 03:38:12,100 opportunity and we need you all board 247 03:38:12,100 --> 03:38:13,100 members to help support us. 248 03:38:13,100 --> 03:38:15,100 anything else? 249 03:38:22,100 --> 03:38:25,100 >> good afternoon, thank you, guys, 250 03:38:25,100 --> 03:38:27,100 for having us. 251 03:38:29,100 --> 03:38:33,801 >> we really do need to wrap it up. 252 03:38:37,100 --> 03:38:39,100 >> are there three speakers? 253 03:38:39,100 --> 03:38:40,100 >> I only have two speakers. 254 03:38:40,100 --> 03:38:42,100 >> I was the third one. 255 03:38:42,100 --> 03:38:43,100 >> okay. 256 03:38:43,100 --> 03:38:45,100 >> he got my minutes. 257 03:38:45,100 --> 03:38:48,100 >> okay, sorry, we have to follow 258 03:38:48,100 --> 03:38:51,601 protocol for public comment, so my 259 03:38:52,100 --> 03:38:56,100 understanding is that can -- so, let's 260 03:38:56,100 --> 03:38:59,100 go ahead and -- I think I'm -- maybe 261 03:38:59,100 --> 03:39:01,100 if I could take this public comment or 262 03:39:01,100 --> 03:39:04,100 are you allocating your time to this 263 03:39:04,100 --> 03:39:05,100 person here? 264 03:39:05,100 --> 03:39:06,100 >> yes. 265 03:39:06,100 --> 03:39:08,100 >> okay, so that's what we're going to 266 03:39:08,100 --> 03:39:09,100 do, so go ahead. 267 03:39:09,100 --> 03:39:11,100 >> good afternoon, thank you, and I 268 03:39:11,100 --> 03:39:12,100 appreciate you guys time. 269 03:39:12,100 --> 03:39:15,601 my name is demetrius williams, the 270 03:39:19,100 --> 03:39:22,100 building local trades collective, we 271 03:39:22,100 --> 03:39:24,100 are basically a variety of contractors 272 03:39:24,100 --> 03:39:26,401 out of bayview district 10. 273 03:39:27,100 --> 03:39:30,100 on august 25, we went over to your 274 03:39:30,100 --> 03:39:34,201 ccsf campus and was addressed as thugs 275 03:39:35,100 --> 03:39:39,201 like james bryant said, told to get 276 03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:44,100 out of our neighbor, off of our campus 277 03:39:44,100 --> 03:39:46,100 by giant construction. 278 03:39:47,100 --> 03:39:48,100 we felt hue militated in our own 279 03:39:48,100 --> 03:39:49,100 backyard, we felt like we didn't 280 03:39:49,100 --> 03:39:52,601 belong and we are from bayview 281 03:39:53,100 --> 03:39:55,100 hunter's point, we reside there, we 282 03:39:55,100 --> 03:39:58,100 bank there, our contracting companies 283 03:39:59,100 --> 03:40:02,100 are in bayview hunter's point, we meet 284 03:40:02,100 --> 03:40:05,601 everybody tuesday 8 a.m. At the 1450 285 03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:09,601 evans campus at bayview hunter's point. 286 03:40:11,100 --> 03:40:13,100 our whole reason for being here is not 287 03:40:13,100 --> 03:40:17,100 to try to shut down the campus which 288 03:40:17,100 --> 03:40:19,100 we almost did, we want to try to get 289 03:40:19,100 --> 03:40:22,100 some type of help from this board to 290 03:40:22,100 --> 03:40:24,100 let the giant construction know that 291 03:40:24,100 --> 03:40:26,100 it's not okay to look at nobody's 292 03:40:26,100 --> 03:40:28,100 nationality and consider them to be 293 03:40:28,100 --> 03:40:30,401 nothing other than community 294 03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:32,100 contractors. 295 03:40:32,100 --> 03:40:34,100 I wouldn't put nobody down in here, I 296 03:40:34,100 --> 03:40:36,401 would lift everybody up. 297 03:40:37,100 --> 03:40:39,100 if it wasn't the right way to do it, 298 03:40:39,100 --> 03:40:41,100 we should have been told the proper 299 03:40:41,100 --> 03:40:43,100 procedures on how to get contractors, 300 03:40:43,100 --> 03:40:46,100 not to be labeled at or looked at and 301 03:40:46,100 --> 03:40:49,100 then be called the police upon to make 302 03:40:49,100 --> 03:40:53,100 us feel like we were going something 303 03:40:53,100 --> 03:40:55,100 illegal or long, all we were doing is 304 03:40:55,100 --> 03:40:56,100 coming to just speak to get 305 03:40:56,100 --> 03:40:58,100 information and speak to them and 306 03:40:58,100 --> 03:41:01,100 figure out how did you -- brother rose 307 03:41:01,100 --> 03:41:05,100 and myself did a job walk over at the 308 03:41:05,100 --> 03:41:07,100 ccsf campus and didn't hear anything 309 03:41:07,100 --> 03:41:09,100 back about our bids, we just want to 310 03:41:09,100 --> 03:41:12,100 do business, we don't want to be no 311 03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,100 burden and we want to be looked at. 312 03:41:13,100 --> 03:41:16,100 >> that was four months -- 313 03:41:17,100 --> 03:41:18,100 >> one second, in terms of protocol, 314 03:41:18,100 --> 03:41:22,100 there are four of you, so, but there's 315 03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:25,100 four people that would like to provide 316 03:41:25,100 --> 03:41:26,100 public comment or -- 317 03:41:26,100 --> 03:41:29,100 >> can I say something, I put in an 318 03:41:29,100 --> 03:41:30,100 e-mail, have you gotten a copy of 319 03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:34,100 it, I put in an e-mail in april 19 320 03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:36,100 to inquire like who won the contract 321 03:41:36,100 --> 03:41:39,100 and all that, so I didn't get a 322 03:41:39,100 --> 03:41:42,100 response back until four months later 323 03:41:42,100 --> 03:41:44,100 and then once you guys gave me the 324 03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:46,100 information, we went over there 325 03:41:46,100 --> 03:41:48,100 just to get a business card. 326 03:41:48,100 --> 03:41:50,100 and they was from out of oakland, all 327 03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:53,100 we asked for was just a business card 328 03:41:53,100 --> 03:41:55,100 and that was a problem so, we're just 329 03:41:55,100 --> 03:41:58,100 bringing to you guys, hopefully you 330 03:41:58,100 --> 03:42:00,100 guys can do something about it bah 331 03:42:00,100 --> 03:42:02,100 we're trying to go about it the right 332 03:42:02,100 --> 03:42:03,100 way. 333 03:42:03,100 --> 03:42:05,100 if you don't do nothing about it, we 334 03:42:05,100 --> 03:42:09,100 have to do something about it as far 335 03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:13,100 as shutting the job down as far as 336 03:42:13,100 --> 03:42:15,100 following the right protocol. 337 03:42:15,100 --> 03:42:17,100 >>.if you want to provide further 338 03:42:17,100 --> 03:42:18,100 comments, you can submit it. 339 03:42:18,100 --> 03:42:20,100 >> can we continue? 340 03:42:20,100 --> 03:42:23,100 >> leslie smith is next followed by 341 03:42:23,100 --> 03:42:26,100 crystal luis followed by evangela 342 03:42:26,100 --> 03:42:27,100 brewster. 343 03:42:27,100 --> 03:42:29,100 >> good evening, I really hope that 344 03:42:29,100 --> 03:42:33,100 everyone is focused on the concept of 345 03:42:33,100 --> 03:42:35,100 ccsf having a structural deficit. 346 03:42:35,100 --> 03:42:37,100 that has never happened before. 347 03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:39,100 what is that? 348 03:42:39,100 --> 03:42:42,100 that means that your revenues are less 349 03:42:42,100 --> 03:42:43,100 than your expenditures. 350 03:42:43,100 --> 03:42:46,100 and the only way to resolve that is to 351 03:42:46,100 --> 03:42:47,100 make a policy change. 352 03:42:47,100 --> 03:42:49,100 there's only one policy change that 353 03:42:49,100 --> 03:42:52,100 will solve the problem and that is 354 03:42:52,100 --> 03:42:54,100 enrollment growth. 355 03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:58,100 so, what's city college doing about 356 03:42:58,100 --> 03:42:59,100 that? 357 03:42:59,100 --> 03:43:01,100 well, it's starting an educational 358 03:43:01,100 --> 03:43:03,401 strategic plan this fall. 359 03:43:04,100 --> 03:43:06,100 and the hearings will begin and the 360 03:43:06,100 --> 03:43:08,100 work group will begin on monday. 361 03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:12,100 so, we need to make sure that that 362 03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:15,100 strategic plan addresses this massive 363 03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:18,100 failure to the people of san francisco 364 03:43:18,100 --> 03:43:21,100 and we -- and to the state. 365 03:43:21,100 --> 03:43:24,100 this is a state institution. 366 03:43:24,100 --> 03:43:27,100 we need to make sure that we're 367 03:43:27,100 --> 03:43:29,100 serving every single zip code, that 368 03:43:29,100 --> 03:43:31,100 we're serving the students when they 369 03:43:31,100 --> 03:43:32,100 want to be served. 370 03:43:32,100 --> 03:43:35,100 I hear that weekends and evening 371 03:43:35,100 --> 03:43:36,100 classes just aren't available. 372 03:43:36,100 --> 03:43:39,100 we need to document and we need to 373 03:43:39,100 --> 03:43:41,100 change how we work. 374 03:43:41,100 --> 03:43:44,100 we need the rebuild all of our 375 03:43:44,100 --> 03:43:45,100 facilities. 376 03:43:45,100 --> 03:43:49,801 we went out for a bind, we got 155 377 03:43:51,100 --> 03:43:54,601 million dollars, why is alemany closed? 378 03:43:57,100 --> 03:43:59,100 why is downtown closed? 379 03:43:59,100 --> 03:44:01,100 you have so many students needing 380 03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:02,100 classes. 381 03:44:02,100 --> 03:44:04,100 there's a lot of work to be done, you 382 03:44:04,100 --> 03:44:06,100 have a strategic plan, use it. 383 03:44:06,100 --> 03:44:07,100 >> thank you, leslie. 384 03:44:07,100 --> 03:44:09,100 crystal luis? 385 03:44:15,100 --> 03:44:19,201 >> my name is crystal luis, an esl 386 03:44:21,100 --> 03:44:24,601 faculty member and an esl coordinator, 387 03:44:26,100 --> 03:44:27,100 prior to scheduling ceasing a 388 03:44:27,100 --> 03:44:30,100 downtown, there was not a publicly 389 03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:32,100 available steady of 390 03:44:33,100 --> 03:44:35,100 scheduling, attendance, staffing, 391 03:44:35,100 --> 03:44:37,401 resources, operational hours, deferred 392 03:44:38,100 --> 03:44:39,100 maintenance, grant expenditures and 393 03:44:39,100 --> 03:44:42,100 compliance and equitable access at 394 03:44:42,100 --> 03:44:44,100 downtown or similar studies at other 395 03:44:44,100 --> 03:44:45,100 district locations. 396 03:44:45,100 --> 03:44:48,100 the chancellor has identified the 397 03:44:48,100 --> 03:44:50,100 facilities and educational strategic 398 03:44:50,100 --> 03:44:51,100 task force for this sort of research 399 03:44:51,100 --> 03:44:54,100 yet there have been no agenda or 400 03:44:54,100 --> 03:44:57,100 meetings open to public comment as of 401 03:44:57,100 --> 03:44:58,100 yet. 402 03:44:58,100 --> 03:45:00,100 meanwhile the academic senate has 403 03:45:00,100 --> 03:45:01,100 unanimously approved a resolution 404 03:45:01,100 --> 03:45:04,100 calling for a process through the 405 03:45:04,100 --> 03:45:05,100 participatory governance process. 406 03:45:05,100 --> 03:45:08,100 processes for the outcome of downtown 407 03:45:08,100 --> 03:45:10,100 have not yet been put into action. 408 03:45:10,100 --> 03:45:12,100 the decision to cease scheduling 409 03:45:12,100 --> 03:45:15,601 at downtown was made without the 410 03:45:17,100 --> 03:45:18,100 research participatory governance 411 03:45:18,100 --> 03:45:20,100 process, deliberation and alternate 412 03:45:20,100 --> 03:45:24,100 plans needed to inform such a decision. 413 03:45:24,100 --> 03:45:26,100 additionally, the district amassed a 414 03:45:26,100 --> 03:45:29,100 27 million dollar surplus in one year 415 03:45:29,100 --> 03:45:32,100 as it collected hold harmless funding 416 03:45:32,100 --> 03:45:34,100 while curtailing growth of needed 417 03:45:34,100 --> 03:45:35,100 classes. 418 03:45:35,100 --> 03:45:37,100 by sitting on a budget surplus and 419 03:45:37,100 --> 03:45:39,100 shuttering buildings at city college 420 03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:42,100 programs, we are not meeting the needs 421 03:45:42,100 --> 03:45:44,100 of students, not fulfilling our 422 03:45:44,100 --> 03:45:46,100 mission and not acknowledging the will 423 03:45:46,100 --> 03:45:48,401 of san francisco voters. 424 03:45:49,100 --> 03:45:51,100 I'm requesting that downtown be 425 03:45:51,100 --> 03:45:54,100 included on upcoming board agenda 426 03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:56,100 regularly and immediately with 427 03:45:56,100 --> 03:45:58,401 discussion from administering impacted 428 03:46:00,100 --> 03:46:01,100 groups with transparent and timely 429 03:46:01,100 --> 03:46:03,401 posting of documents and 430 03:46:06,100 --> 03:46:07,100 research. 431 03:46:07,100 --> 03:46:08,100 thank you for your time. 432 03:46:08,100 --> 03:46:10,100 >> thank you, crystal. 433 03:46:10,100 --> 03:46:13,601 next is evangela brewster, she's not 434 03:46:14,100 --> 03:46:18,801 online, I'm going to move on to derek 435 03:46:20,100 --> 03:46:23,601 lack, followed by rosario followed by 436 03:46:24,100 --> 03:46:25,100 michael medina-snider. 437 03:46:25,100 --> 03:46:27,100 >> hello. 438 03:46:31,100 --> 03:46:33,100 good evening, board of trustees, my 439 03:46:33,100 --> 03:46:37,801 name is derrick, I work in the mayor's 440 03:46:39,100 --> 03:46:42,601 office, I'm also deeply involved with 441 03:46:43,100 --> 03:46:46,100 connie chang running for congress and 442 03:46:46,100 --> 03:46:49,100 technically I don't get paid. 443 03:46:49,100 --> 03:46:52,100 if you really want to get into 444 03:46:52,100 --> 03:46:55,100 technical detail, I work as a 445 03:46:55,100 --> 03:46:57,401 temporary staffer, it's minimum 446 03:46:58,100 --> 03:47:02,801 wage for the chase center so I'll be 447 03:47:05,100 --> 03:47:08,601 representing levi stadium and sofi as 448 03:47:10,100 --> 03:47:13,601 well, there's so much information to 449 03:47:14,100 --> 03:47:16,100 talk about here, the first minute, I 450 03:47:16,100 --> 03:47:20,100 told you what I did and the last 451 03:47:20,100 --> 03:47:24,100 minute, I want to tell you my history 452 03:47:24,100 --> 03:47:27,100 on what my association of city college 453 03:47:27,100 --> 03:47:31,100 and going forward, of course I will be 454 03:47:31,100 --> 03:47:33,100 making a major grant on behalf of the 455 03:47:33,100 --> 03:47:37,201 mayor for the city college, so madam 456 03:47:39,100 --> 03:47:42,100 mueller and I are very close 457 03:47:42,100 --> 03:47:44,100 associates, she's the first person to 458 03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:47,100 work in the arts department and james 459 03:47:47,100 --> 03:47:48,100 mcfadden is the second person. 460 03:47:48,100 --> 03:47:52,100 I volunteered to teach as a piano 461 03:47:52,100 --> 03:47:55,100 teaching assistant for james mcfadden 462 03:47:55,100 --> 03:47:59,201 for 2004 to 2006 and I'm a student of 463 03:48:00,100 --> 03:48:03,100 david yee but he forgot about that. 464 03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:06,601 I'm also a student of lawrence 465 03:48:07,100 --> 03:48:11,201 forever, he passed away last year, I'm 466 03:48:15,100 --> 03:48:17,100 disheartened that lawrence passed 467 03:48:17,100 --> 03:48:20,100 away, his teaching really influenced 468 03:48:20,100 --> 03:48:23,100 me especially that he's gone, I'm 469 03:48:23,100 --> 03:48:26,100 planning to come back more and more 470 03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:27,100 and you'll get to know who I am and 471 03:48:27,100 --> 03:48:29,100 what I'll be doing for the future of 472 03:48:29,100 --> 03:48:30,100 city college. 473 03:48:30,100 --> 03:48:31,100 thank you. 474 03:48:31,100 --> 03:48:34,100 >> thank you very much, derrick. 475 03:48:36,100 --> 03:48:38,401 rosario, she is online. 476 03:48:39,100 --> 03:48:40,100 >> hello, can you hear me? 477 03:48:40,100 --> 03:48:41,100 >> yes. 478 03:48:41,100 --> 03:48:42,100 >> yes. 479 03:48:42,100 --> 03:48:44,100 hi, thank you for taking the time to 480 03:48:44,100 --> 03:48:46,100 hear from child development and family 481 03:48:46,100 --> 03:48:47,100 studies. 482 03:48:47,100 --> 03:48:50,100 I wanted to encourage that steps be 483 03:48:50,100 --> 03:48:53,100 taken for clear and consistent 484 03:48:53,100 --> 03:48:55,100 communication around the construction. 485 03:48:55,100 --> 03:48:58,100 of course we are excited to have 486 03:48:58,100 --> 03:48:59,100 construction happening but our child 487 03:48:59,100 --> 03:49:02,100 care spaces have been greatly impacted. 488 03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:05,100 both the sealed classroom child care 489 03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:07,100 observation room at ocean campus and 490 03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:10,100 the one at jo john adams have had an 491 03:49:10,100 --> 03:49:12,100 extreme amount of dust requiring extra 492 03:49:12,100 --> 03:49:15,100 time from faculty to clean up. 493 03:49:15,100 --> 03:49:17,100 ocean, you already know about the 494 03:49:17,100 --> 03:49:18,100 parking fiasco there. 495 03:49:18,100 --> 03:49:20,100 at john adams, faculty tried to find 496 03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:22,100 out when they could get into their 497 03:49:22,100 --> 03:49:24,100 classroom to clean it up and fix it 498 03:49:24,100 --> 03:49:27,100 up, for those of you don't know, our 499 03:49:27,100 --> 03:49:29,401 child observations classes have 500 03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:33,100 children crawling on the floor, 501 03:49:33,100 --> 03:49:36,100 putting things in their mouths. 502 03:49:37,100 --> 03:49:39,100 they didn't get any response to know 503 03:49:39,100 --> 03:49:42,100 when she could go and clean up. 504 03:49:42,100 --> 03:49:46,100 she had to take a day off to go in 505 03:49:46,100 --> 03:49:50,100 person and the dean did give her some 506 03:49:50,100 --> 03:49:51,100 information. 507 03:49:51,100 --> 03:49:52,100 she wasn't able to get enough time to 508 03:49:52,100 --> 03:49:54,100 go in there to clean and had to draft 509 03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:57,100 or volunteer her son to go in and they 510 03:49:57,100 --> 03:49:58,100 spent a couple of days cleaning the 511 03:49:58,100 --> 03:50:00,100 place so the saw dust and the dust 512 03:50:00,100 --> 03:50:02,100 could be removed so the room could be 513 03:50:02,100 --> 03:50:04,401 ready for the children. 514 03:50:07,100 --> 03:50:09,100 additionally the space at john adams 515 03:50:09,100 --> 03:50:10,100 lost our parking. 516 03:50:10,100 --> 03:50:11,100 we've always had dedicated parking for 517 03:50:11,100 --> 03:50:13,100 their families who have to come in 518 03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:16,100 with strollers and who have to unload 519 03:50:16,100 --> 03:50:17,100 things. 520 03:50:17,100 --> 03:50:18,100 the faculty usually have to unload 521 03:50:18,100 --> 03:50:19,100 things for the classroom. 522 03:50:19,100 --> 03:50:22,100 we have always had parking there with 523 03:50:22,100 --> 03:50:25,100 signs posted and on the ground and on 524 03:50:25,100 --> 03:50:27,100 the side of the building. 525 03:50:27,100 --> 03:50:29,100 we would like to request that those 526 03:50:29,100 --> 03:50:31,100 parking spots dedicated for the child 527 03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:34,100 care space be returned and that the 528 03:50:34,100 --> 03:50:35,100 construction company do everything 529 03:50:35,100 --> 03:50:38,100 possible to close up the windows, 530 03:50:38,100 --> 03:50:40,100 perhaps glue or put something on that 531 03:50:40,100 --> 03:50:43,601 so the dust doesn't come in. 532 03:50:45,100 --> 03:50:47,100 it's really created a workload for the 533 03:50:47,100 --> 03:50:48,100 faculty. 534 03:50:48,100 --> 03:50:49,100 thank you. 535 03:50:49,100 --> 03:50:52,100 >> thank you very much, rosario. 536 03:50:52,100 --> 03:50:55,100 next is michael medina smiled followed 537 03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:58,100 by michael adams and lastly is lydia 538 03:50:58,100 --> 03:50:59,100 hernandez. 539 03:50:59,100 --> 03:51:02,100 >> I have a good report to say 540 03:51:02,100 --> 03:51:04,100 tonight on the student health center. 541 03:51:04,100 --> 03:51:06,100 I love to talk about it. 542 03:51:06,100 --> 03:51:08,100 tonight I would like to recognize the 543 03:51:08,100 --> 03:51:09,100 important milestone for city college 544 03:51:09,100 --> 03:51:12,100 of san francisco, the 20th anniversary 545 03:51:12,100 --> 03:51:14,100 of student health which opened on 546 03:51:14,100 --> 03:51:16,100 august 18, 2006. 547 03:51:16,100 --> 03:51:17,100 but there's more to the story of 548 03:51:17,100 --> 03:51:19,100 student health and where it began. 549 03:51:19,100 --> 03:51:22,601 the original student health center was 550 03:51:23,100 --> 03:51:25,100 a single room in the basement of the 551 03:51:25,100 --> 03:51:27,100 science room or building. 552 03:51:27,100 --> 03:51:29,100 essentially a first station staffed by 553 03:51:29,100 --> 03:51:31,100 a part time registered nurse. 554 03:51:31,100 --> 03:51:33,100 as the needs of our students grew, 555 03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:36,100 student health moved into the 556 03:51:36,100 --> 03:51:37,100 bungalows where nurse asks counselors 557 03:51:37,100 --> 03:51:39,100 cared for students often with limited 558 03:51:39,100 --> 03:51:41,100 space and resources. 559 03:51:41,100 --> 03:51:43,100 one person who refused to accept this 560 03:51:43,100 --> 03:51:47,100 was our former dean and my hero and 561 03:51:47,100 --> 03:51:48,100 mentor assistant dean sonny clark 562 03:51:48,100 --> 03:51:52,201 which I think most of you know. 563 03:51:53,100 --> 03:51:55,100 sonny understood ccsf deserved more than 564 03:51:55,100 --> 03:51:57,100 basic first aid, she envisioned a 565 03:51:57,100 --> 03:51:59,401 comprehensive college where students 566 03:52:00,100 --> 03:52:02,100 could receive critical mental health 567 03:52:02,100 --> 03:52:04,100 services here on campus. 568 03:52:04,100 --> 03:52:07,100 she advocated for that vision and 569 03:52:07,100 --> 03:52:09,401 attended facility meetings, documented 570 03:52:11,100 --> 03:52:12,100 deteriorating bungalows, advocated for 571 03:52:12,100 --> 03:52:14,100 clinical services and staffing and 572 03:52:14,100 --> 03:52:16,100 continued to push until the dream of 573 03:52:16,100 --> 03:52:18,100 the new facility became reality. 574 03:52:18,100 --> 03:52:20,100 sonny didn't advocate for the build, 575 03:52:20,100 --> 03:52:21,100 she helped envision, design and fight 576 03:52:21,100 --> 03:52:22,100 for it. 577 03:52:22,100 --> 03:52:24,100 she watched the construction rise from 578 03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:26,100 ground to remain involved through the 579 03:52:26,100 --> 03:52:27,100 entire process. 580 03:52:27,100 --> 03:52:29,100 as this building became possible 581 03:52:29,100 --> 03:52:31,100 because of others believing in the 582 03:52:31,100 --> 03:52:33,100 vision too, I want to recognize the 583 03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:36,100 voters of san francisco whose approval 584 03:52:36,100 --> 03:52:38,401 of the 2001 educational facilities 585 03:52:41,100 --> 03:52:42,100 improvement bond made that possible. 586 03:52:42,100 --> 03:52:45,601 I want to recognize councilwoman nancy 587 03:52:46,100 --> 03:52:49,601 pelosi who helped secure funding for 588 03:52:52,100 --> 03:52:53,100 the equipment. 589 03:52:53,100 --> 03:52:56,601 at the dedication, she said the 590 03:52:58,100 --> 03:53:00,100 students at city college of san 591 03:53:00,100 --> 03:53:03,100 francisco are our future leaders. 592 03:53:05,100 --> 03:53:07,100 20 years later, those words still 593 03:53:07,100 --> 03:53:08,100 describe the purpose of this building, 594 03:53:08,100 --> 03:53:10,100 today the student health center 595 03:53:10,100 --> 03:53:13,100 provides medical care, mental health, 596 03:53:14,100 --> 03:53:16,100 preventive immunization care, 597 03:53:16,100 --> 03:53:19,100 education cal and clinical health care. 598 03:53:19,100 --> 03:53:23,100 it provides a place where students can 599 03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:26,100 come -- I had to wait for you for two 600 03:53:26,100 --> 03:53:28,100 hours here. 601 03:53:29,100 --> 03:53:31,100 they simply need someone to help them, 602 03:53:31,100 --> 03:53:33,100 the work didn't stop there and it 603 03:53:33,100 --> 03:53:34,100 continues ongoing. 604 03:53:34,100 --> 03:53:36,100 I want to say that we had to wait 605 03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:40,100 three hours for you all tonight and as 606 03:53:40,100 --> 03:53:42,100 constituent leaders as well as the 607 03:53:42,100 --> 03:53:43,100 public, we shouldn't have to wait for 608 03:53:43,100 --> 03:53:46,100 that, there was an hour promised to 609 03:53:46,100 --> 03:53:48,100 you us and we went back to the old 610 03:53:48,100 --> 03:53:49,100 ways of things and this is an 611 03:53:49,100 --> 03:53:50,100 appropriate way to conduct a meeting. 612 03:53:50,100 --> 03:53:52,100 >> thank you, michael. 613 03:53:53,100 --> 03:53:54,100 michael adams, please. 614 03:53:54,100 --> 03:53:56,100 michael adams will be followed by 615 03:53:56,100 --> 03:53:58,100 lydia hernandez. 616 03:54:00,100 --> 03:54:02,401 >> thank you, hello, everyone. 617 03:54:04,100 --> 03:54:07,100 I apologize, I didn't make enough 618 03:54:07,100 --> 03:54:09,100 copies but I'm going to hand these 619 03:54:09,100 --> 03:54:12,100 around and hope you can work out 620 03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:14,100 copying what you need. 621 03:54:14,100 --> 03:54:17,100 I'm coming as a licensed airplane 622 03:54:17,100 --> 03:54:20,100 pilot and I'm wearing a hat that is 623 03:54:20,100 --> 03:54:23,100 dedicated to the mechanics would work 624 03:54:23,100 --> 03:54:25,100 on airplanes that we fly and that we 625 03:54:25,100 --> 03:54:28,100 hope and pray have done their work in 626 03:54:28,100 --> 03:54:32,201 order for us to have safe landings. 627 03:54:33,100 --> 03:54:36,100 I'm sure you all have heard about the 628 03:54:36,100 --> 03:54:39,100 shortage of aircraft mechanics in our 629 03:54:39,100 --> 03:54:42,601 country and especially in the high 630 03:54:44,100 --> 03:54:45,100 risk aviation environments like the 631 03:54:45,100 --> 03:54:48,100 bay area, one of the highest risk 632 03:54:48,100 --> 03:54:49,100 rated places in the world. 633 03:54:49,100 --> 03:54:53,801 and the fact that we are short of 634 03:54:55,100 --> 03:54:57,100 aircraft mechanics while the aircraft 635 03:54:57,100 --> 03:55:00,601 mechanic program at city college is 636 03:55:01,100 --> 03:55:04,100 shut down temporarily as we see on the 637 03:55:04,100 --> 03:55:06,100 catalogue and that there are waist 638 03:55:06,100 --> 03:55:08,100 waiting lists and the college in 639 03:55:08,100 --> 03:55:12,801 alameda is full to the brim and that 640 03:55:14,100 --> 03:55:16,100 has to turn people away, at least 641 03:55:16,100 --> 03:55:19,601 thee running classes and awaiting this 642 03:55:20,100 --> 03:55:23,100 is hopeful as opposed to folks here 643 03:55:23,100 --> 03:55:26,100 who see that message on the website 644 03:55:26,100 --> 03:55:29,100 that says until further notice, 645 03:55:29,100 --> 03:55:30,100 classes are closed. 646 03:55:30,100 --> 03:55:32,100 we don't know what's really behind it. 647 03:55:32,100 --> 03:55:35,100 what I sent you around are two stories 648 03:55:35,100 --> 03:55:38,100 I offer as not in the imagination 649 03:55:38,100 --> 03:55:41,100 about what could happen but as a 650 03:55:41,100 --> 03:55:43,100 report of what did happen to me. 651 03:55:43,100 --> 03:55:47,100 I had to land an airplane in the fog 652 03:55:47,100 --> 03:55:51,100 on the hillside among cows and pigs 653 03:55:51,100 --> 03:55:53,100 and trees and it was because of the 654 03:55:53,100 --> 03:55:55,100 mechanics that that airplane behaved 655 03:55:55,100 --> 03:55:57,100 properly so I could get down and come 656 03:55:57,100 --> 03:55:59,100 here and visit with you. 657 03:55:59,100 --> 03:56:03,100 the other story is you'll see the 658 03:56:03,100 --> 03:56:05,100 other picture of a plane upside down 659 03:56:05,100 --> 03:56:09,201 which got that way because a mechanic 660 03:56:11,100 --> 03:56:12,100 left off a hair pin piece the size of 661 03:56:12,100 --> 03:56:16,201 a hair pin because the throttle broke 662 03:56:17,100 --> 03:56:20,100 and the airplane had to make a landing 663 03:56:20,100 --> 03:56:23,100 and flipped over, fortunately nobody 664 03:56:25,100 --> 03:56:27,100 perished. 665 03:56:27,100 --> 03:56:28,100 >> thank you, michael. 666 03:56:28,100 --> 03:56:29,100 >> thank you for listening and please 667 03:56:29,100 --> 03:56:30,100 look at the information, these are 668 03:56:30,100 --> 03:56:32,100 real stories about what could happen 669 03:56:32,100 --> 03:56:33,100 and what did happen. 670 03:56:33,100 --> 03:56:35,401 >> thank you, lydia hernandez. 671 03:56:44,100 --> 03:56:46,100 >> good evening, broader of trustees, 672 03:56:46,100 --> 03:56:48,100 my name is lydia hernandez and I'm 673 03:56:48,100 --> 03:56:51,100 serving as the mission campus 674 03:56:53,100 --> 03:56:55,100 associated students president, I come 675 03:56:55,100 --> 03:56:57,100 here tonight to speak with you about 676 03:56:57,100 --> 03:57:00,601 the gaining lack of resources and 677 03:57:02,100 --> 03:57:05,100 class spaces for our vulnerable 678 03:57:05,100 --> 03:57:08,601 neighborhood centers that have a deep 679 03:57:09,100 --> 03:57:11,100 equity crisis tied to how this college 680 03:57:11,100 --> 03:57:12,100 has treated this population. 681 03:57:12,100 --> 03:57:16,201 for years we've watched as a troubling 682 03:57:18,100 --> 03:57:21,100 historical pattern, our budgets are 683 03:57:21,100 --> 03:57:22,100 reorganized, our non-credit students 684 03:57:22,100 --> 03:57:24,100 are the first to be displaced. 685 03:57:24,100 --> 03:57:26,100 they are given promises they will have 686 03:57:26,100 --> 03:57:28,100 enough classes, they were given 687 03:57:28,100 --> 03:57:31,601 promises of clipper cards, of shuttle, 688 03:57:32,100 --> 03:57:34,100 they're given promises of counseling 689 03:57:34,100 --> 03:57:37,601 and it's not happening, there's half 690 03:57:38,100 --> 03:57:40,100 day counseling, no counseling, there's 691 03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:41,100 half day child care. 692 03:57:41,100 --> 03:57:44,100 there is not the support services at 693 03:57:44,100 --> 03:57:47,100 all that ocean campus has and these 694 03:57:47,100 --> 03:57:50,100 are a population that need more 695 03:57:50,100 --> 03:57:51,100 support, that's equity. 696 03:57:51,100 --> 03:57:54,100 we know that is equity, we know 697 03:57:54,100 --> 03:57:57,100 these are students that are struggling 698 03:57:57,100 --> 03:58:00,601 and this college has been treating 699 03:58:01,100 --> 03:58:02,100 them like pawns on a chess board 700 03:58:02,100 --> 03:58:04,100 thinking they can move them 701 03:58:04,100 --> 03:58:06,100 around and it's an open door for a 702 03:58:06,100 --> 03:58:08,100 student is not the same as it is not 703 03:58:08,100 --> 03:58:12,801 the same as a place of education where 704 03:58:13,100 --> 03:58:15,100 they can thrive and have community. 705 03:58:15,100 --> 03:58:17,100 we saw in downtown they had community, 706 03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:20,100 I know john adams had that community 707 03:58:20,100 --> 03:58:23,100 and we have time and time again left 708 03:58:23,100 --> 03:58:25,100 these students without the support 709 03:58:25,100 --> 03:58:27,100 that they need and I'm telling you, 710 03:58:27,100 --> 03:58:28,100 they're not having the classes, they 711 03:58:28,100 --> 03:58:31,601 are not having the support, they're 712 03:58:32,100 --> 03:58:35,100 jammed 75 students in a class, 45 713 03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:38,100 students in a class without desks and 714 03:58:38,100 --> 03:58:39,100 they're still coming, okay. 715 03:58:39,100 --> 03:58:43,201 but guess what, then we wonder why 716 03:58:44,100 --> 03:58:46,100 doesn't enrollment go up, guess what, 717 03:58:46,100 --> 03:58:48,100 it's not fun when you have to deal with 718 03:58:48,100 --> 03:58:50,100 that and they're not getting the 719 03:58:50,100 --> 03:58:52,100 support and they don't have the 720 03:58:52,100 --> 03:58:53,100 services at all. 721 03:58:53,100 --> 03:58:55,100 >> thank you, lydia. 722 03:58:55,100 --> 03:58:56,100 that concludes public comment, 723 03:58:56,100 --> 03:58:58,100 president chisti? 724 03:59:00,100 --> 03:59:02,100 >> alright, public comment on items 725 03:59:02,100 --> 03:59:03,100 not on the agenda is now closed. 726 03:59:03,100 --> 03:59:04,100 I'm going to move us along which I 727 03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:07,601 believe is to the constituent reports. 728 03:59:09,100 --> 03:59:11,100 starting with our -- go ahead, if you 729 03:59:11,100 --> 03:59:13,100 could please call the first item. 730 03:59:13,100 --> 03:59:15,100 >> 5a is the student chancellor's 731 03:59:15,100 --> 03:59:16,100 report. 732 03:59:16,100 --> 03:59:19,601 this is sofia flores-guevara, she's be 733 03:59:21,100 --> 03:59:24,100 joining us remotely, I believe, sofia? 734 03:59:24,100 --> 03:59:26,100 >> hello, yes, good evening. 735 03:59:26,100 --> 03:59:29,100 my name is sofia flores-guevara, I am 736 03:59:29,100 --> 03:59:33,801 pleased to be with you guys here today. 737 03:59:34,100 --> 03:59:38,100 I apologize for being on the road at 738 03:59:38,100 --> 03:59:40,100 the moment, but I didn't know when you 739 03:59:40,100 --> 03:59:42,100 guys were going to come back. 740 03:59:42,100 --> 03:59:46,801 some of the reports consist of -- one 741 03:59:49,100 --> 03:59:53,100 second -- so, emphasizing on what ms. 742 03:59:53,100 --> 03:59:55,100 lydia has spoken on, marginalized 743 03:59:55,100 --> 03:59:57,100 communities at our mission and 744 03:59:57,100 --> 03:59:59,100 chinatown and john adams campuses 745 03:59:59,100 --> 04:00:01,100 struggling with tech and language 746 04:00:01,100 --> 04:00:04,100 barriers and it affecting their 747 04:00:04,100 --> 04:00:05,100 enrollment or registration status, we 748 04:00:05,100 --> 04:00:10,100 need to fix this, who can I talk to as 749 04:00:10,100 --> 04:00:12,100 to who we're already in the second 750 04:00:12,100 --> 04:00:14,100 week of school. 751 04:00:14,100 --> 04:00:17,100 as well as them needing basic needs 752 04:00:17,100 --> 04:00:20,100 covered, but limited access to 753 04:00:20,100 --> 04:00:22,100 resources in comparison to ocean and 754 04:00:22,100 --> 04:00:24,000 as I've talked to some of these 755 04:00:24,000 --> 04:00:27,100 students, basic things as snacks or 756 04:00:27,100 --> 04:00:30,601 access to calworks or tampons for 757 04:00:34,100 --> 04:00:35,100 women. 758 04:00:35,100 --> 04:00:39,100 second report, lab a budget was not 759 04:00:39,100 --> 04:00:40,100 announced. 760 04:00:40,100 --> 04:00:42,100 when, why, who did this and how? 761 04:00:42,100 --> 04:00:44,100 students had no knowledge, is this 762 04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:46,100 because they were trying to create a 763 04:00:46,100 --> 04:00:50,100 union is one of the questions that was 764 04:00:50,100 --> 04:00:51,100 arise. 765 04:00:51,100 --> 04:00:52,100 I did want to announce that tomorrow 766 04:00:52,100 --> 04:00:55,100 we have a meeting, our first executive 767 04:00:55,100 --> 04:00:58,100 council meeting at 1 p.m., it will be 768 04:00:58,100 --> 04:01:01,601 in the room 2101 in the student 769 04:01:02,100 --> 04:01:04,100 success building, please 770 04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:09,100 join us so we can make these decisions 771 04:01:09,100 --> 04:01:12,100 and, you know, the other thing that's 772 04:01:12,100 --> 04:01:14,100 being mentioned is that students are 773 04:01:14,100 --> 04:01:16,100 losing their financial aid because 774 04:01:16,100 --> 04:01:19,100 they have 120 units and are getting 775 04:01:19,100 --> 04:01:22,100 cut off because they're maxed out. 776 04:01:22,100 --> 04:01:26,100 so my question is what -- can there be 777 04:01:26,100 --> 04:01:30,801 a solution and if so, what is it? 778 04:01:36,100 --> 04:01:39,601 lastly, this is before last, my 779 04:01:40,100 --> 04:01:43,100 apologies, the new ccsf app is not 780 04:01:43,100 --> 04:01:46,601 working and it's supposed to be 781 04:01:47,100 --> 04:01:50,100 simpler to use but too basic because 782 04:01:50,100 --> 04:01:53,100 we can't really do much on it and as 783 04:01:53,100 --> 04:01:56,100 we're trying to register and have all 784 04:01:56,100 --> 04:01:59,100 these other financial problems and 785 04:01:59,100 --> 04:02:00,100 tech problems, there's the enrollment 786 04:02:00,100 --> 04:02:02,100 issue, right. 787 04:02:02,100 --> 04:02:05,100 so, instead of it being more 788 04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:08,601 supportive, it's kind of hurting our 789 04:02:11,100 --> 04:02:14,100 situation because it's a software 790 04:02:14,100 --> 04:02:16,100 issue, right. 791 04:02:17,100 --> 04:02:20,100 lastly is the native american class 792 04:02:20,100 --> 04:02:23,100 doesn't count for transfer and we're 793 04:02:23,100 --> 04:02:25,100 trying to create a department, we 794 04:02:25,100 --> 04:02:27,100 already have a club in place, you 795 04:02:27,100 --> 04:02:29,100 know, we have a land acknowledgment 796 04:02:29,100 --> 04:02:33,100 for each and every meeting but no 797 04:02:33,100 --> 04:02:37,801 department and we want to see that our 798 04:02:38,100 --> 04:02:40,100 uniters count towards something. 799 04:02:40,100 --> 04:02:42,100 that's it, sorry, tried to keep it 800 04:02:42,100 --> 04:02:43,100 very short. 801 04:02:43,100 --> 04:02:46,100 >> thank you very much, student 802 04:02:48,100 --> 04:02:49,100 chancellor guevara, we'll move on to 803 04:02:49,100 --> 04:02:51,100 5b which is the student trustee 804 04:02:51,100 --> 04:02:53,100 report, this is student trustee ian 805 04:02:53,100 --> 04:02:55,100 wong. 806 04:02:55,100 --> 04:02:58,100 >> good evening, as we begin the fall 807 04:02:58,100 --> 04:03:01,100 semester, I've been getting our 808 04:03:01,100 --> 04:03:03,100 executive council's meetings up and 809 04:03:03,100 --> 04:03:04,100 running, this friday will be the first 810 04:03:04,100 --> 04:03:06,100 meeting this semester and I'm looking 811 04:03:06,100 --> 04:03:07,100 forward to bringing our student 812 04:03:07,100 --> 04:03:08,100 leaders together and getting started 813 04:03:08,100 --> 04:03:10,100 on the work ahead of us. 814 04:03:10,100 --> 04:03:12,100 a couple of weeks a I also had the 815 04:03:12,100 --> 04:03:14,100 opportunity to attend the student 816 04:03:14,100 --> 04:03:16,100 trustee convention in burlingame, that 817 04:03:16,100 --> 04:03:19,100 was a great experience meeting other 818 04:03:19,100 --> 04:03:21,100 trustees across california, hearing 819 04:03:21,100 --> 04:03:25,100 about the issues they are facing and 820 04:03:25,100 --> 04:03:27,100 hearing how different colleges 821 04:03:27,100 --> 04:03:28,100 approach different advocacy. 822 04:03:28,100 --> 04:03:29,100 I had an opportunity to speak with the 823 04:03:29,100 --> 04:03:33,201 leaders of the california league, as a 824 04:03:34,100 --> 04:03:38,201 quick update on the free city college 825 04:03:39,100 --> 04:03:40,100 committee, I attended the committee 826 04:03:40,100 --> 04:03:41,100 meeting last week, while funding has 827 04:03:41,100 --> 04:03:42,100 been secured for this year, the 828 04:03:42,100 --> 04:03:43,100 committee will continue working to 829 04:03:43,100 --> 04:03:44,100 ensure that future students have 830 04:03:44,100 --> 04:03:46,100 access to the same funding and 831 04:03:46,100 --> 04:03:47,100 opportunities. 832 04:03:47,100 --> 04:03:49,100 on the student side, multiple students 833 04:03:49,100 --> 04:03:52,100 have raised questions regarding on 834 04:03:52,100 --> 04:03:53,100 campus job opportunities, library 835 04:03:53,100 --> 04:03:55,100 positions and their funding. 836 04:03:55,100 --> 04:03:57,100 students have been asking what 837 04:03:57,100 --> 04:03:58,100 happened to their funding for these 838 04:03:58,100 --> 04:04:01,601 positions and what it means for 839 04:04:02,100 --> 04:04:04,100 library opportunities across the 840 04:04:04,100 --> 04:04:07,100 campus, some have requested funding 841 04:04:07,100 --> 04:04:09,100 from associated positions. 842 04:04:10,100 --> 04:04:12,100 asco is operating with a budget 843 04:04:12,100 --> 04:04:14,100 deficit of approximately 200 thousand 844 04:04:14,100 --> 04:04:16,401 dollars while associate student 845 04:04:17,100 --> 04:04:19,100 funding comes from student dollars, 846 04:04:19,100 --> 04:04:21,100 this raises appropriate source for lab 847 04:04:21,100 --> 04:04:24,100 aid positions and whether associated 848 04:04:24,100 --> 04:04:27,100 students should be [inaudible] that 849 04:04:28,100 --> 04:04:30,100 serve the broader college community. 850 04:04:30,100 --> 04:04:34,201 this has been a recurring concern of 851 04:04:35,100 --> 04:04:36,100 students, and they will continue to be 852 04:04:36,100 --> 04:04:39,100 followed as the semester progresses. 853 04:04:39,100 --> 04:04:42,100 those are my main updates, thank you. 854 04:04:42,100 --> 04:04:43,100 >> thank you. 855 04:04:43,100 --> 04:04:47,201 next is 5c, it's the academic senate 856 04:04:48,100 --> 04:04:50,100 president's report, katia fuchs will 857 04:04:50,100 --> 04:04:54,201 be presenting the report to the board. 858 04:04:55,100 --> 04:04:57,401 >> good evening, trustees, chancellor 859 04:04:58,100 --> 04:04:59,100 messina, college community. 860 04:04:59,100 --> 04:05:01,100 happy fall semester. 861 04:05:01,100 --> 04:05:03,100 I don't speak only for myself when I 862 04:05:03,100 --> 04:05:06,100 say the buzz of the new academic year 863 04:05:06,100 --> 04:05:09,601 is thrilling and it's really wonderful 864 04:05:10,100 --> 04:05:12,100 to see students on our campus eager 865 04:05:12,100 --> 04:05:14,100 to start or continue their academic 866 04:05:14,100 --> 04:05:15,100 journeys. 867 04:05:15,100 --> 04:05:17,100 it's a pleasure to be giving my first 868 04:05:17,100 --> 04:05:20,100 in-person report to you as academic 869 04:05:20,100 --> 04:05:23,100 senate president this academic year. 870 04:05:23,100 --> 04:05:26,100 I'm grateful to lillian and fanny law 871 04:05:26,100 --> 04:05:29,100 for delivering my board reports in may 872 04:05:29,100 --> 04:05:32,100 and june when I was recovering from 873 04:05:32,100 --> 04:05:33,100 surgery. 874 04:05:33,100 --> 04:05:34,100 since you asked, my surgery was a 875 04:05:34,100 --> 04:05:37,100 success and the recovery gave me a lot 876 04:05:37,100 --> 04:05:40,100 of opportunity for quiet reflection, 877 04:05:41,100 --> 04:05:44,100 it's easy to be quiet when your jaws 878 04:05:44,100 --> 04:05:47,100 are wired shut n. This reflection, I 879 04:05:47,100 --> 04:05:48,100 realized even though the surgery led 880 04:05:48,100 --> 04:05:51,100 to a positive outcome and it's already 881 04:05:51,100 --> 04:05:52,100 improved the daily function in the 882 04:05:52,100 --> 04:05:54,100 quality of my life, it required me and 883 04:05:54,100 --> 04:05:57,100 those close to me to be gracious and 884 04:05:57,100 --> 04:05:59,401 compassionate as I slowly 885 04:06:00,100 --> 04:06:02,100 regained my ability to participate 886 04:06:02,100 --> 04:06:03,100 fully. 887 04:06:03,100 --> 04:06:06,100 this struck me as a great metaphor and 888 04:06:06,100 --> 04:06:07,100 guiding principle in my work here at 889 04:06:07,100 --> 04:06:09,100 the college that when we make 890 04:06:09,100 --> 04:06:11,100 decisions and plans for change and 891 04:06:11,100 --> 04:06:14,100 improvement, we must factor into our 892 04:06:14,100 --> 04:06:17,100 processes a certain compassion and 893 04:06:17,100 --> 04:06:20,100 grace for adjusting to those changes 894 04:06:20,100 --> 04:06:23,100 as we see them lead to positive 895 04:06:23,100 --> 04:06:26,100 outcomes to our college and our 896 04:06:26,100 --> 04:06:27,100 students. 897 04:06:27,100 --> 04:06:30,100 allowed this me forto guide me as I 898 04:06:30,100 --> 04:06:32,100 participated in the academic senate 899 04:06:32,100 --> 04:06:33,100 orientation, it happens in august 900 04:06:33,100 --> 04:06:36,601 every year and our wonderful second 901 04:06:37,100 --> 04:06:40,100 vice-president fanny law put on an 902 04:06:40,100 --> 04:06:41,100 enjoyable event, we're thrilled to 903 04:06:41,100 --> 04:06:44,601 have a coun of 19 faculty this 904 04:06:46,100 --> 04:06:48,100 academic year, we have faculty who 905 04:06:48,100 --> 04:06:51,100 teach both full and part time, credit 906 04:06:51,100 --> 04:06:53,100 and non-credit, academic and service 907 04:06:53,100 --> 04:06:55,100 faculty and faculty who are based 908 04:06:55,100 --> 04:06:58,100 primarily on cam pus outside of ocean. 909 04:06:58,100 --> 04:07:01,100 we're also excited to welcome faculty 910 04:07:01,100 --> 04:07:03,100 who have never served on the council 911 04:07:03,100 --> 04:07:06,100 before, that we have yet to have an 912 04:07:06,100 --> 04:07:08,100 official business meet, we got to 913 04:07:08,100 --> 04:07:09,100 experience some excellent discussion 914 04:07:09,100 --> 04:07:10,100 as councilmembers learned about the 915 04:07:10,100 --> 04:07:13,100 role of the academic senate and 916 04:07:13,100 --> 04:07:14,100 college governance. 917 04:07:14,100 --> 04:07:17,100 one example we used when talking about 918 04:07:17,100 --> 04:07:21,100 the important role of the senate was 919 04:07:21,100 --> 04:07:24,100 to suspend the [inaudible] beginning 920 04:07:26,100 --> 04:07:27,100 this academic year. 921 04:07:27,100 --> 04:07:28,100 this decision was the result of a 922 04:07:28,100 --> 04:07:29,100 deeply robust conversation that 923 04:07:29,100 --> 04:07:31,100 spanned the entirety of last academic 924 04:07:31,100 --> 04:07:33,100 year involving participation from 925 04:07:33,100 --> 04:07:34,100 every constituency group at the 926 04:07:34,100 --> 04:07:37,100 college leading to a result that we 927 04:07:37,100 --> 04:07:38,100 hope will truly benefit students and 928 04:07:38,100 --> 04:07:40,100 faculty alike. 929 04:07:40,100 --> 04:07:42,100 with the orientation behind us, we're 930 04:07:42,100 --> 04:07:44,100 working to finalize our first business 931 04:07:44,100 --> 04:07:46,100 agenda of the year on september 9 and 932 04:07:46,100 --> 04:07:49,100 we look forward to be robustly 933 04:07:49,100 --> 04:07:51,100 discussing comprehensive program 934 04:07:51,100 --> 04:07:53,100 review and our program review 935 04:07:53,100 --> 04:07:56,100 coordinator will be leading us in what 936 04:07:56,100 --> 04:07:58,100 will be a rich discussion on how to 937 04:07:58,100 --> 04:08:00,100 make this process a meaningful one. 938 04:08:00,100 --> 04:08:02,100 I'll be sure to report more on it as 939 04:08:02,100 --> 04:08:07,401 it goes on and thank you for your time. 940 04:08:08,100 --> 04:08:11,601 >> next is 5d, the classified senate 941 04:08:13,100 --> 04:08:16,100 president's report, this is president 942 04:08:17,100 --> 04:08:18,100 michael medina-snider. 943 04:08:18,100 --> 04:08:20,100 >> we didn't have our first meeting 944 04:08:20,100 --> 04:08:22,100 yet because we just mad the plenary, 945 04:08:22,100 --> 04:08:24,100 our first official meeting will be 946 04:08:24,100 --> 04:08:27,100 next month, september 15, but we did 947 04:08:27,100 --> 04:08:30,100 have the plenary where we 948 04:08:30,100 --> 04:08:32,100 thanked the chancellor for coming and 949 04:08:32,100 --> 04:08:35,100 swearing in our new elected officials, 950 04:08:35,100 --> 04:08:38,601 we have our parliamentarian kathy as 951 04:08:39,100 --> 04:08:42,100 the vice-president and then senator 952 04:08:44,100 --> 04:08:46,401 vashali, enrique, rudy, shanell, 953 04:08:47,100 --> 04:08:49,100 susie, alex and charles and many of 954 04:08:49,100 --> 04:08:50,100 these are new people. 955 04:08:50,100 --> 04:08:54,201 I want to also thank elaina wong, 956 04:08:56,100 --> 04:08:58,100 david delgado for their dedication and 957 04:08:58,100 --> 04:09:01,601 commitment for the last senate -- 958 04:09:02,100 --> 04:09:04,100 they're outgoing senators and we're 959 04:09:04,100 --> 04:09:06,100 looking forward to the first meeting 960 04:09:06,100 --> 04:09:08,100 to engage on what we're going to focus 961 04:09:08,100 --> 04:09:09,100 on this year. 962 04:09:09,100 --> 04:09:11,100 I'm goik to move on to something else 963 04:09:11,100 --> 04:09:12,100 that's not so great. 964 04:09:12,100 --> 04:09:14,100 I want to talk about human resources 965 04:09:14,100 --> 04:09:16,100 and I want to talk about some things 966 04:09:16,100 --> 04:09:19,100 that have changed here that is not 967 04:09:19,100 --> 04:09:22,100 really the senate focus but I'm going 968 04:09:22,100 --> 04:09:26,100 to say it anyway because it does 969 04:09:26,100 --> 04:09:27,100 resolve around my job and student 970 04:09:27,100 --> 04:09:29,100 health and I'm going to take this 971 04:09:29,100 --> 04:09:31,100 opportunity to say that this 972 04:09:31,100 --> 04:09:33,100 restructuring of human resorts 973 04:09:33,100 --> 04:09:35,100 roll-out was not very effective. 974 04:09:35,100 --> 04:09:37,100 there are safety issues on campus. 975 04:09:37,100 --> 04:09:40,100 I had two injuries from the culinary 976 04:09:40,100 --> 04:09:42,100 with lacerations this week, we have no 977 04:09:42,100 --> 04:09:46,100 idea who the risk manager is now who 978 04:09:46,100 --> 04:09:48,100 or who's taking over for that person, 979 04:09:48,100 --> 04:09:50,100 we know orlando is not. 980 04:09:50,100 --> 04:09:53,100 there is as website that says to 981 04:09:53,100 --> 04:09:55,100 e-mail -- scan and e-mail the accident 982 04:09:55,100 --> 04:09:58,100 injury report to the risk services 983 04:09:58,100 --> 04:10:00,100 e-mail, that is not a secure e-mail, 984 04:10:00,100 --> 04:10:02,100 that is a hipaa violation I have 985 04:10:02,100 --> 04:10:04,100 reported twice with this college, now 986 04:10:04,100 --> 04:10:06,100 we're having it back on the website 987 04:10:06,100 --> 04:10:07,100 again. 988 04:10:07,100 --> 04:10:10,100 you do not send medical records 989 04:10:10,100 --> 04:10:12,100 through our e-mail system. 990 04:10:12,100 --> 04:10:14,100 we are not only personally liable for 991 04:10:14,100 --> 04:10:16,100 doing it but the college is liable and 992 04:10:16,100 --> 04:10:17,100 you should all know that, this has 993 04:10:17,100 --> 04:10:18,100 been going on. 994 04:10:18,100 --> 04:10:21,100 rolling out the restructuring and not 995 04:10:21,100 --> 04:10:23,100 having these things situated in 996 04:10:23,100 --> 04:10:25,100 advance and not only letting the 997 04:10:25,100 --> 04:10:26,100 constituent leaders know about this in 998 04:10:26,100 --> 04:10:29,100 advance and maybe the roll-down from 999 04:10:29,100 --> 04:10:30,100 there, but not avenging the campus 1000 04:10:30,100 --> 04:10:33,601 know where our faculty don't know 1001 04:10:34,100 --> 04:10:36,100 where to send this or don't know who 1002 04:10:36,100 --> 04:10:38,100 to call because all of this has 1003 04:10:38,100 --> 04:10:41,100 changed and no one went over it 1004 04:10:41,100 --> 04:10:42,100 thoroughly with the college is not 1005 04:10:42,100 --> 04:10:44,100 acceptable, it is not acceptable to 1006 04:10:44,100 --> 04:10:45,100 roll out these things when there is 1007 04:10:45,100 --> 04:10:48,100 safety and students involved and I'm 1008 04:10:48,100 --> 04:10:49,100 very disappointed with this department 1009 04:10:49,100 --> 04:10:51,100 for many reasons but this is a big 1010 04:10:51,100 --> 04:10:55,100 one, we have to take seriously or we 1011 04:10:55,100 --> 04:10:57,100 are going to get a violation. 1012 04:10:57,100 --> 04:10:59,100 I'm going to tell you right now, if I 1013 04:10:59,100 --> 04:11:02,100 find out or if I have to go through 1014 04:11:02,100 --> 04:11:06,801 an e-mail again and if I find out 1015 04:11:07,100 --> 04:11:09,100 somebody's e-mailed an injury report, 1016 04:11:09,100 --> 04:11:11,100 I'm going to report this as well, it is 1017 04:11:11,100 --> 04:11:12,100 illegal, personal and for the college, 1018 04:11:12,100 --> 04:11:14,100 we're talking millions of dollars 1019 04:11:14,100 --> 04:11:17,100 and of the two violations so far here, 1020 04:11:17,100 --> 04:11:18,100 someone needs to roll out the training 1021 04:11:18,100 --> 04:11:22,100 and let the district know what's going 1022 04:11:22,100 --> 04:11:24,100 on. 1023 04:11:24,100 --> 04:11:28,100 >> thank you, next is 5e, the service 1024 04:11:28,100 --> 04:11:30,401 employee's international union, seiu, 1025 04:11:32,100 --> 04:11:33,100 san francisco community college 1026 04:11:33,100 --> 04:11:34,100 district local chapter 1021, 1027 04:11:34,100 --> 04:11:36,401 president's report from president 1028 04:11:37,100 --> 04:11:38,100 maria salazar-colon. 1029 04:11:38,100 --> 04:11:40,100 >> making sure you guys can hear me? 1030 04:11:40,100 --> 04:11:41,100 >> yes. 1031 04:11:41,100 --> 04:11:44,100 >> I'm on a new laptop, it's been 1032 04:11:44,100 --> 04:11:45,100 acting wild. 1033 04:11:45,100 --> 04:11:48,601 seiu is concerned the district is 1034 04:11:50,100 --> 04:11:52,100 feeling a significant amount of money 1035 04:11:52,100 --> 04:11:54,100 to high paid administrators who seem 1036 04:11:54,100 --> 04:11:56,100 to be unqualified for their positions. 1037 04:11:56,100 --> 04:11:58,100 we see a new administration on the 1038 04:11:58,100 --> 04:12:01,100 block and it's called conquer and 1039 04:12:01,100 --> 04:12:04,100 divide, giving off anti-labor vibes 1040 04:12:05,100 --> 04:12:09,201 and taking down unions with shut up 1041 04:12:11,100 --> 04:12:15,801 and do what I tell you to do, 1042 04:12:16,100 --> 04:12:17,100 additionally, it is troubling the 1043 04:12:17,100 --> 04:12:18,100 inappropriate behavior among some 1044 04:12:18,100 --> 04:12:19,100 administrators is not being 1045 04:12:19,100 --> 04:12:21,100 addressed, these individuals are 1046 04:12:21,100 --> 04:12:22,100 receiving promotions and new titles. 1047 04:12:22,100 --> 04:12:25,100 if we're wrong, prove it with the 1048 04:12:25,100 --> 04:12:27,100 evidence. 1049 04:12:27,100 --> 04:12:30,100 consider this, former vice chancellor 1050 04:12:30,100 --> 04:12:33,601 yulan who was a staunch appointment 1051 04:12:34,100 --> 04:12:37,100 of labor units received a 1052 04:12:37,100 --> 04:12:38,100 transportation housing stipend of 1053 04:12:38,100 --> 04:12:40,100 approximately 7 thousand dollars per 1054 04:12:40,100 --> 04:12:42,100 month for nearly two years, in 1055 04:12:42,100 --> 04:12:45,601 contrast, the former avc of hr 1056 04:12:46,100 --> 04:12:47,100 received five thousand each year, 1057 04:12:47,100 --> 04:12:49,100 during that time, our union positions 1058 04:12:49,100 --> 04:12:52,100 including those for utility workers 1059 04:12:52,100 --> 04:12:55,100 were put on hold by the previous 1060 04:12:55,100 --> 04:12:58,100 interim chancellor due to budget 1061 04:12:58,100 --> 04:12:59,100 restrictions. 1062 04:12:59,100 --> 04:13:02,100 however hundreds of thousands of 1063 04:13:02,100 --> 04:13:03,100 dollars continue to be allocated. 1064 04:13:03,100 --> 04:13:06,100 I believe the swaying has worsened 1065 04:13:06,100 --> 04:13:07,100 since then. 1066 04:13:07,100 --> 04:13:10,100 currently there is a restructuring of 1067 04:13:10,100 --> 04:13:13,100 the hr department that is negatively 1068 04:13:13,100 --> 04:13:16,100 impacting our union job, our 1069 04:13:16,100 --> 04:13:17,100 bargaining union members have been 1070 04:13:17,100 --> 04:13:20,100 informed that the department is no 1071 04:13:20,100 --> 04:13:24,201 longer the labor hr, what is evidenced 1072 04:13:26,100 --> 04:13:27,100 by this restructuring is the formation 1073 04:13:27,100 --> 04:13:30,601 of an anti-hero labor hr department 1074 04:13:32,100 --> 04:13:35,100 exhibiting a concerning pattern of 1075 04:13:35,100 --> 04:13:37,100 ageism, we have received testimony 1076 04:13:37,100 --> 04:13:39,100 from senior experienced workers 1077 04:13:39,100 --> 04:13:41,100 stating they have being pressured to 1078 04:13:41,100 --> 04:13:44,100 retire, they even agree -- if they 1079 04:13:44,100 --> 04:13:46,100 agree to retire, management offers to 1080 04:13:46,100 --> 04:13:48,401 throw them a party. 1081 04:13:50,100 --> 04:13:51,100 this behavior has complete disregard 1082 04:13:51,100 --> 04:13:54,100 for the members of our bargaining unit. 1083 04:13:54,100 --> 04:13:58,100 employees who resist out of class duty 1084 04:13:58,100 --> 04:13:59,100 face layovers aimed at coercing them 1085 04:13:59,100 --> 04:14:00,100 into retirement. 1086 04:14:00,100 --> 04:14:02,100 all of this is occurring under the 1087 04:14:02,100 --> 04:14:05,100 current leadership of the college 1088 04:14:05,100 --> 04:14:06,100 administration which includes 1089 04:14:06,100 --> 04:14:08,100 anti-labor industries and the external 1090 04:14:08,100 --> 04:14:09,100 legal counsel. 1091 04:14:09,100 --> 04:14:11,100 when will this end? 1092 04:14:11,100 --> 04:14:14,100 it seems we're on the path of becoming 1093 04:14:14,100 --> 04:14:15,100 an anti-labor institution. 1094 04:14:15,100 --> 04:14:19,100 also I don't appreciate hearing from a 1095 04:14:19,100 --> 04:14:21,100 former president of our union he was 1096 04:14:21,100 --> 04:14:22,100 called a thug. 1097 04:14:22,100 --> 04:14:25,100 this shows once again the behavior of 1098 04:14:25,100 --> 04:14:28,601 the this college who ignores the 1099 04:14:29,100 --> 04:14:30,100 institutional racism that continues 1100 04:14:30,100 --> 04:14:31,100 here. 1101 04:14:31,100 --> 04:14:32,100 thank you. 1102 04:14:32,100 --> 04:14:34,401 >> thank you, president salazar-colon. 1103 04:14:35,100 --> 04:14:38,100 next on the constituent group reports 1104 04:14:38,100 --> 04:14:41,601 is 5f, the american federation of 1105 04:14:42,100 --> 04:14:44,401 teachers, aft, local 2121, president's 1106 04:14:46,100 --> 04:14:49,100 report by president robin pugh. 1107 04:14:52,100 --> 04:14:53,100 >> thank you, welcome back, so here we 1108 04:14:53,100 --> 04:14:54,100 are at the beginning of the school 1109 04:14:54,100 --> 04:14:55,100 year. 1110 04:14:55,100 --> 04:14:56,100 I don't know what happened to summer, 1111 04:14:56,100 --> 04:14:57,100 but it's been great hanging around, 1112 04:14:57,100 --> 04:14:59,100 seeing people, feeling the energy from 1113 04:14:59,100 --> 04:15:00,100 faculty and students. 1114 04:15:00,100 --> 04:15:02,100 this is a time of year when we look to 1115 04:15:02,100 --> 04:15:04,100 the future, so in that vain, there's a 1116 04:15:04,100 --> 04:15:06,100 few things I hope we'll hear about 1117 04:15:06,100 --> 04:15:08,100 tonight or if not that, very soon. 1118 04:15:08,100 --> 04:15:11,601 the college community needs to hear 1119 04:15:12,100 --> 04:15:14,100 more detailed plans about the future 1120 04:15:14,100 --> 04:15:15,100 of our downtown center or even how 1121 04:15:15,100 --> 04:15:16,100 that future will be determined. 1122 04:15:16,100 --> 04:15:19,100 we need to hear scheduled and program 1123 04:15:19,100 --> 04:15:22,100 level detail of how the college will 1124 04:15:22,100 --> 04:15:24,100 achieve a 2% enrollment growth goal, 1125 04:15:24,100 --> 04:15:27,100 especially in light of the pause in 1126 04:15:27,100 --> 04:15:29,100 instruction downtown. 1127 04:15:29,100 --> 04:15:31,100 in my e-mail to you all earlier today, 1128 04:15:31,100 --> 04:15:34,100 I shared my concern about tonight's 1129 04:15:34,100 --> 04:15:36,100 item 13a, your vote on whether to 1130 04:15:36,100 --> 04:15:39,100 authorize a contract with outside 1131 04:15:39,100 --> 04:15:42,100 lawyers without a dollar amount. 1132 04:15:42,100 --> 04:15:45,100 the college has hired administrators 1133 04:15:45,100 --> 04:15:48,601 in hr, hired inside counsel, recently 1134 04:15:50,100 --> 04:15:52,100 restructured hr, we heard about that, 1135 04:15:52,100 --> 04:15:55,100 even citing decreased need in hr to 1136 04:15:55,100 --> 04:15:57,100 justify cutting a position and yet 1137 04:15:57,100 --> 04:16:00,100 there appears to be no lan to develop 1138 04:16:00,100 --> 04:16:02,100 internal capacity for labor relations 1139 04:16:02,100 --> 04:16:03,100 which is sadly lacking. 1140 04:16:03,100 --> 04:16:07,100 I instead of our public college has 1141 04:16:07,100 --> 04:16:10,601 become a multimillion dollar client for 1142 04:16:12,100 --> 04:16:14,401 [inaudible], we incentivize these 1143 04:16:15,100 --> 04:16:18,100 outside lawyers to earn millions of 1144 04:16:18,100 --> 04:16:20,100 taxpayer dollars by perpetuating 1145 04:16:20,100 --> 04:16:22,100 dysfunction and delaying resolution, 1146 04:16:22,100 --> 04:16:24,100 it's a pattern we've seen clearly from 1147 04:16:24,100 --> 04:16:28,100 this firm, please do not approve a 1148 04:16:28,100 --> 04:16:29,100 blank check. 1149 04:16:29,100 --> 04:16:31,100 with respect to tonight's budget 1150 04:16:31,100 --> 04:16:34,100 presentation, we know this is an early 1151 04:16:34,100 --> 04:16:37,100 presentation, what we know to be true, 1152 04:16:37,100 --> 04:16:40,100 the college has run surpluses for the 1153 04:16:40,100 --> 04:16:43,100 last six years while building healthy 1154 04:16:43,100 --> 04:16:46,601 reserve asks capital outlay, all the 1155 04:16:48,100 --> 04:16:49,100 while, the budget said the district 1156 04:16:49,100 --> 04:16:52,100 was going to be in deficit or 1157 04:16:52,100 --> 04:16:54,100 at risk of deficit. 1158 04:16:54,100 --> 04:16:57,100 apt caught on to this quickly, we 1159 04:16:57,100 --> 04:17:00,100 noticed we fought these harmful 1160 04:17:00,100 --> 04:17:01,100 practices and now the state auditors 1161 04:17:01,100 --> 04:17:02,100 have noticed. 1162 04:17:02,100 --> 04:17:05,100 our budgets are reliably unreliable, 1163 04:17:06,100 --> 04:17:09,100 so to correct this harm, we need a 1164 04:17:09,100 --> 04:17:11,100 pattern of budgeting that reflects 1165 04:17:11,100 --> 04:17:14,100 reality and we look future to see 1166 04:17:14,100 --> 04:17:17,100 further refinements that clarify how 1167 04:17:20,100 --> 04:17:22,100 the board will facilitate our 1168 04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:24,100 transition to the student centered 1169 04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:27,100 funding formula, this is the kind of 1170 04:17:27,100 --> 04:17:28,100 financial leadership we most need from 1171 04:17:28,100 --> 04:17:31,100 our board of trustees and finally aft 1172 04:17:31,100 --> 04:17:34,601 continues at the bargaining table for 1173 04:17:36,100 --> 04:17:37,100 a successor contract. 1174 04:17:37,100 --> 04:17:39,100 we look forward to collaborative 1175 04:17:39,100 --> 04:17:40,100 discussions and looking forward to 1176 04:17:40,100 --> 04:17:42,100 working with a district team that 1177 04:17:42,100 --> 04:17:44,100 displays respect by coming to the 1178 04:17:44,100 --> 04:17:46,100 table prepared and ready to make 1179 04:17:46,100 --> 04:17:49,100 proposals that recognize the value of 1180 04:17:49,100 --> 04:17:51,100 the critical service that faculty 1181 04:17:51,100 --> 04:17:52,100 provide to students in the college. 1182 04:17:52,100 --> 04:17:54,100 thank you. 1183 04:17:54,100 --> 04:17:56,401 >> thank you, president pugh? 1184 04:17:57,100 --> 04:18:00,100 next is 5g, the administrator's 1185 04:18:00,100 --> 04:18:02,100 association co-chair's report, 1186 04:18:02,100 --> 04:18:05,100 co-chair stephanie chenard will not be 1187 04:18:05,100 --> 04:18:08,100 here to present the report but it is 1188 04:18:08,100 --> 04:18:10,100 attached, the formal written report. 1189 04:18:10,100 --> 04:18:13,100 last is 5h which is the department chairs 1190 04:18:13,100 --> 04:18:15,401 council dcc president's report, 1191 04:18:16,100 --> 04:18:17,100 darlene alioto. 1192 04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:20,601 >> good evening, trustees, the dcc has 1193 04:18:23,100 --> 04:18:24,100 not officially met yet this semester. 1194 04:18:24,100 --> 04:18:26,100 we have report from boots on the 1195 04:18:26,100 --> 04:18:29,100 ground that enrollment looks good. 1196 04:18:29,100 --> 04:18:31,100 as we walk by classrooms, there are 1197 04:18:31,100 --> 04:18:34,100 more students than we have had for a 1198 04:18:34,100 --> 04:18:37,100 while and there is a vibrance around campus. 1199 04:18:37,100 --> 04:18:39,100 faculty are saying that they have more 1200 04:18:39,100 --> 04:18:42,100 students this semester than they have 1201 04:18:42,100 --> 04:18:43,100 had since covid. 1202 04:18:43,100 --> 04:18:45,100 so, it's a mystery why computer 1203 04:18:45,100 --> 04:18:49,801 numbers are still saying that we are a 1204 04:18:50,100 --> 04:18:51,100 bit lower than we were last year. 1205 04:18:51,100 --> 04:18:53,100 we hope that those numbers will catch 1206 04:18:53,100 --> 04:18:55,100 up with reality. 1207 04:18:56,100 --> 04:18:58,100 I wanted to do a shout out and a thank 1208 04:18:58,100 --> 04:19:02,100 you to the team that has worked hard 1209 04:19:02,100 --> 04:19:04,100 on our ghost students, admission and 1210 04:19:04,100 --> 04:19:08,801 records and it, there seems to be a 1211 04:19:09,100 --> 04:19:12,601 major, major improvement in the ghost 1212 04:19:14,100 --> 04:19:17,100 situation, so deaf -- definitely 1213 04:19:18,100 --> 04:19:19,100 something is working. 1214 04:19:19,100 --> 04:19:20,100 we're still seeing the same confusion 1215 04:19:20,100 --> 04:19:24,201 at the start of each semester where 1216 04:19:25,100 --> 04:19:27,100 the semester start date is different 1217 04:19:27,100 --> 04:19:28,100 from the class start date. 1218 04:19:28,100 --> 04:19:31,601 that's confusing for students and we 1219 04:19:33,100 --> 04:19:35,100 need to find a different way to 1220 04:19:35,100 --> 04:19:36,100 present that information. 1221 04:19:36,100 --> 04:19:39,100 in a recent meeting with the 1222 04:19:39,100 --> 04:19:40,100 chancellor, she indicated that there 1223 04:19:40,100 --> 04:19:42,100 may be a new program that can address 1224 04:19:42,100 --> 04:19:46,100 this problem and we certainly hope so 1225 04:19:46,100 --> 04:19:48,100 and hope that it can be done prior to 1226 04:19:48,100 --> 04:19:50,100 our next registration. 1227 04:19:52,100 --> 04:19:55,100 finally I would right to ask the board 1228 04:19:55,100 --> 04:19:58,100 of trustees to consider moving their 1229 04:19:58,100 --> 04:20:01,100 closed session to the end of the 1230 04:20:01,100 --> 04:20:03,100 meeting so that you guys are the only 1231 04:20:03,100 --> 04:20:05,401 ones that are inconvenienced. 1232 04:20:07,100 --> 04:20:09,100 welcome to a robust semester, thank 1233 04:20:09,100 --> 04:20:10,100 you. 1234 04:20:10,100 --> 04:20:11,100 >> thank you very much, 1235 04:20:11,100 --> 04:20:13,100 president 1236 04:20:16,100 --> 04:20:18,100 alioto. 1237 04:20:19,100 --> 04:20:22,601 >> okay, thank you so much, that 1238 04:20:23,100 --> 04:20:25,100 concludes constituent reports. 1239 04:20:26,100 --> 04:20:28,100 chancellor's report is next I believe. 1240 04:20:28,100 --> 04:20:30,100 >> we do have a public comment on it 1241 04:20:30,100 --> 04:20:32,100 if you would like to take that first. 1242 04:20:32,100 --> 04:20:34,100 >> let's go ahead and have the report 1243 04:20:34,100 --> 04:20:36,100 and then we'll take public comment. 1244 04:20:36,100 --> 04:20:37,100 >> of course. 1245 04:20:37,100 --> 04:20:39,100 >> thank you, you see the written 1246 04:20:39,100 --> 04:20:40,100 report. 1247 04:20:40,100 --> 04:20:43,100 one of the things I wanted to 1248 04:20:43,100 --> 04:20:44,100 highlight for everyone is the 1249 04:20:44,100 --> 04:20:47,100 information I shared at the fall flex 1250 04:20:47,100 --> 04:20:49,100 day regarding the educational 1251 04:20:49,100 --> 04:20:50,100 strategic planning process. 1252 04:20:50,100 --> 04:20:54,801 so, we did share the team members were 1253 04:20:55,100 --> 04:20:57,100 working with us, the timeline, the 1254 04:20:57,100 --> 04:20:58,100 expectations of the workforce, the 1255 04:20:58,100 --> 04:21:01,601 fact there will be many listening 1256 04:21:02,100 --> 04:21:03,100 sessions across the college and with 1257 04:21:03,100 --> 04:21:06,100 the external community, they'll also 1258 04:21:06,100 --> 04:21:09,100 be reports out to governance and to 1259 04:21:09,100 --> 04:21:12,100 the board and it's a very inclusive 1260 04:21:12,100 --> 04:21:15,100 process that we have begun this 1261 04:21:15,100 --> 04:21:16,100 semester. 1262 04:21:16,100 --> 04:21:19,100 we are looking forward to that and so 1263 04:21:19,100 --> 04:21:22,100 I just wanted -- the slides give a lot 1264 04:21:22,100 --> 04:21:23,100 more detail. 1265 04:21:23,100 --> 04:21:26,100 I think that I want to echo what 1266 04:21:26,100 --> 04:21:30,100 darlene said, I know I -- I'm hoping 1267 04:21:30,100 --> 04:21:31,100 that numbers, they say numbers don't 1268 04:21:31,100 --> 04:21:35,100 lie, I do see a lot more students on 1269 04:21:35,100 --> 04:21:39,100 campus this fall than I did see last 1270 04:21:39,100 --> 04:21:43,100 fall or last spring, so I think I'm 1271 04:21:43,100 --> 04:21:45,100 crossing my fingers our enrollment 1272 04:21:45,100 --> 04:21:48,100 numbers might be different than census 1273 04:21:48,100 --> 04:21:50,100 data than they've been so far, we'll 1274 04:21:50,100 --> 04:21:51,100 report that out to you. 1275 04:21:51,100 --> 04:21:53,100 there is a lot of good information in 1276 04:21:53,100 --> 04:21:56,100 there, I will let it go at that. 1277 04:21:56,100 --> 04:21:58,100 >> let's take public comment. 1278 04:21:58,100 --> 04:22:01,100 >> there's one, mara lee hearn. 1279 04:22:09,100 --> 04:22:11,401 >> good evening, trustees and 1280 04:22:13,100 --> 04:22:14,100 chancellor. 1281 04:22:14,100 --> 04:22:16,100 thank you, chancellor 1282 04:22:18,100 --> 04:22:20,100 messina, for reminding 1283 04:22:24,100 --> 04:22:27,100 us about the goals of ccsf, and I 1284 04:22:27,100 --> 04:22:29,401 quote, collective commitment to 1285 04:22:32,100 --> 04:22:34,100 education success, equity and access, 1286 04:22:34,100 --> 04:22:36,100 of late, a primary concern for many of 1287 04:22:36,100 --> 04:22:40,201 us in the community is access and 1288 04:22:43,100 --> 04:22:44,100 increasingly shrinking reality. 1289 04:22:44,100 --> 04:22:46,100 as we have watched in horror at the 1290 04:22:46,100 --> 04:22:49,100 loss of our highly acclaimed fort 1291 04:22:49,100 --> 04:22:52,601 mason art center in 2009, and the 1292 04:22:54,100 --> 04:22:57,100 nearly total destruction of the older 1293 04:22:57,100 --> 04:23:00,601 adults program, now we are witnessing 1294 04:23:01,100 --> 04:23:03,100 the administrative wrecking ball 1295 04:23:03,100 --> 04:23:05,100 attack the downtown center. 1296 04:23:05,100 --> 04:23:09,100 a community built on the successes in 1297 04:23:09,100 --> 04:23:12,100 providing inner city students with 1298 04:23:13,100 --> 04:23:16,100 access to classes, on-site experience 1299 04:23:16,100 --> 04:23:19,601 and skill building leading to the 1300 04:23:22,100 --> 04:23:24,100 credentials necessary to survive in 1301 04:23:24,100 --> 04:23:27,100 our demanding and competitive city. 1302 04:23:27,100 --> 04:23:29,100 this has been ripped a away from its 1303 04:23:29,100 --> 04:23:31,100 students and all of their supporters 1304 04:23:31,100 --> 04:23:34,601 and teachers who patiently waited and 1305 04:23:36,100 --> 04:23:38,100 watched eagerly for the leadership 1306 04:23:38,100 --> 04:23:41,100 that could both recognize and support 1307 04:23:41,100 --> 04:23:44,601 the mission of the downtown center. 1308 04:23:45,100 --> 04:23:49,201 it's not too late to choose the 1309 04:23:50,100 --> 04:23:53,100 appropriate leadership, to build the 1310 04:23:53,100 --> 04:23:56,100 student attendance by addressing their 1311 04:23:56,100 --> 04:24:00,100 needs, to fulfill the stated goals of 1312 04:24:00,100 --> 04:24:02,100 this institution. 1313 04:24:03,100 --> 04:24:05,100 our reported millions in surplus in 1314 04:24:05,100 --> 04:24:09,100 our budget are there to be put to good 1315 04:24:09,100 --> 04:24:13,201 use can which does not include further 1316 04:24:15,100 --> 04:24:17,100 inflating the reserves at the expense 1317 04:24:17,100 --> 04:24:18,100 of student programs. 1318 04:24:18,100 --> 04:24:19,100 thank you. 1319 04:24:19,100 --> 04:24:21,401 >> thank you very much. 1320 04:24:22,100 --> 04:24:23,100 that concludes public comment, 1321 04:24:23,100 --> 04:24:24,100 president chisti? 1322 04:24:24,100 --> 04:24:27,601 >> let's go to the next item. 1323 04:24:29,100 --> 04:24:31,100 >> 7 is open session and informational 1324 04:24:31,100 --> 04:24:35,100 items, 7a is entitled city college of 1325 04:24:35,100 --> 04:24:36,100 san francisco annual grantees and 1326 04:24:36,100 --> 04:24:37,100 resource development update. 1327 04:24:37,100 --> 04:24:39,100 this will be provided by the dean of 1328 04:24:39,100 --> 04:24:42,100 grantees and resource development, dr. 1329 04:24:42,100 --> 04:24:44,100 maureen herrington who will be 1330 04:24:44,100 --> 04:24:45,100 joining us remotely. 1331 04:24:45,100 --> 04:24:46,100 >> I'm going to ask my colleagues for 1332 04:24:46,100 --> 04:24:50,100 a motion to extend the meeting time. 1333 04:24:50,100 --> 04:24:53,100 I'm going to estimate proposed 10:45. 1334 04:25:00,100 --> 04:25:01,100 >> moved. 1335 04:25:01,100 --> 04:25:04,100 >> moved by trustee chung, seconded 1336 04:25:05,100 --> 04:25:06,100 by trustee mccarty. 1337 04:25:06,100 --> 04:25:09,100 seeing no discussion or objection, 1338 04:25:09,100 --> 04:25:12,601 we're going to take that by 1339 04:25:14,100 --> 04:25:17,100 acclimation, meeting time is extended 1340 04:25:17,100 --> 04:25:19,100 to 10:45 p.m., the floor is yours. 1341 04:25:19,100 --> 04:25:21,401 >> good evening, trustees and 1342 04:25:22,100 --> 04:25:24,100 chancellor messina. 1343 04:25:24,100 --> 04:25:26,100 I am submitting the annual grants 1344 04:25:26,100 --> 04:25:28,401 report, it's information only. 1345 04:25:29,100 --> 04:25:31,100 there are as you can see from the 1346 04:25:31,100 --> 04:25:34,100 report, there's a list of various 1347 04:25:34,100 --> 04:25:37,100 grants that were applied for, 1348 04:25:38,100 --> 04:25:41,601 received, applied for, not funded and 1349 04:25:43,100 --> 04:25:47,100 then the list of grants that were 1350 04:25:47,100 --> 04:25:49,100 determined and not necessarily be a 1351 04:25:49,100 --> 04:25:52,100 good fit at the time and others that 1352 04:25:52,100 --> 04:25:54,100 are currently under review. 1353 04:25:54,100 --> 04:25:58,100 we know that there has been a big 1354 04:25:58,100 --> 04:26:00,100 change in the federal funding 1355 04:26:00,100 --> 04:26:03,100 department of education and so things 1356 04:26:03,100 --> 04:26:07,801 are influx but we continue to work to 1357 04:26:08,100 --> 04:26:11,601 bring in creative grants and it's 1358 04:26:12,100 --> 04:26:14,100 never dull, let's just say that. 1359 04:26:14,100 --> 04:26:17,601 we have lot of colleagues, faculty, 1360 04:26:18,100 --> 04:26:19,100 chair, deans, administration that are 1361 04:26:19,100 --> 04:26:22,100 bringing things to our attention and 1362 04:26:22,100 --> 04:26:25,100 things are being vetted and we're 1363 04:26:25,100 --> 04:26:28,100 looking at creative ways of bringing 1364 04:26:28,100 --> 04:26:31,100 more opportunities to the college and 1365 04:26:31,100 --> 04:26:33,100 our students. 1366 04:26:34,100 --> 04:26:37,100 so, that's the information only at 1367 04:26:37,100 --> 04:26:39,100 this point, but do you have any 1368 04:26:39,100 --> 04:26:40,100 questions? 1369 04:26:40,100 --> 04:26:41,100 >> thank you so much. 1370 04:26:41,100 --> 04:26:42,100 thank you so much for this 1371 04:26:42,100 --> 04:26:43,100 informational item. 1372 04:26:43,100 --> 04:26:45,100 before I open it up for discussion, 1373 04:26:45,100 --> 04:26:47,100 any public comment? 1374 04:26:47,100 --> 04:26:49,100 >> there's no public comment on 7a. 1375 04:26:49,100 --> 04:26:50,100 >> alright. 1376 04:26:50,100 --> 04:26:54,201 we're going to keep discussion on in 1377 04:26:57,100 --> 04:27:00,601 fairly brief, so, if there's pressing 1378 04:27:01,100 --> 04:27:03,100 questions or comments? 1379 04:27:04,100 --> 04:27:05,100 alright. 1380 04:27:05,100 --> 04:27:06,100 seeing none, we're going to go ahead 1381 04:27:06,100 --> 04:27:09,100 and move along, thank you so much, dr. 1382 04:27:09,100 --> 04:27:10,100 herrington. 1383 04:27:10,100 --> 04:27:11,100 >> thank you. 1384 04:27:11,100 --> 04:27:13,100 >> the next item is -- if you could 1385 04:27:13,100 --> 04:27:14,100 please call the next item. 1386 04:27:14,100 --> 04:27:16,100 >> this is 7b, the free city college 1387 04:27:16,100 --> 04:27:18,100 program update. 1388 04:27:19,100 --> 04:27:22,601 I'll pass it along to you. 1389 04:27:24,100 --> 04:27:25,100 >> in the interest of time, I wanted 1390 04:27:25,100 --> 04:27:27,100 to make sure that all of you had 1391 04:27:27,100 --> 04:27:31,100 access -- there was a free city 1392 04:27:31,100 --> 04:27:33,100 oversight committee last month, ibt I 1393 04:27:33,100 --> 04:27:36,100 wanted to make sure you had access 1394 04:27:36,100 --> 04:27:37,100 to the agenda posted. 1395 04:27:37,100 --> 04:27:41,100 some of the access is what a revised 1396 04:27:41,100 --> 04:27:42,100 mou would look like, the body will 1397 04:27:42,100 --> 04:27:44,100 engage with that and we will all keep 1398 04:27:44,100 --> 04:27:46,100 you apprised with those discussions. 1399 04:27:46,100 --> 04:27:48,100 I think something else that we want to 1400 04:27:48,100 --> 04:27:50,100 keep as we move into the next item to 1401 04:27:50,100 --> 04:27:53,100 think about is that I believe the free 1402 04:27:53,100 --> 04:27:57,100 city mou is going to be expiring in 1403 04:27:57,100 --> 04:28:00,100 2029 so, that's just a formally 1404 04:28:01,100 --> 04:28:02,100 expiring at that date, something for 1405 04:28:02,100 --> 04:28:07,100 us to keep in mind of and I think 1406 04:28:07,100 --> 04:28:09,100 student trustee wong also provided 1407 04:28:09,100 --> 04:28:11,100 some updates about securing the 1408 04:28:11,100 --> 04:28:13,100 funding and right now we're secured 1409 04:28:13,100 --> 04:28:16,100 but to think about the long term. 1410 04:28:16,100 --> 04:28:18,100 so, that's the update. 1411 04:28:18,100 --> 04:28:21,100 I want to take really quick public 1412 04:28:21,100 --> 04:28:22,100 comment. 1413 04:28:22,100 --> 04:28:25,601 >> there's no public comment on 7b. 1414 04:28:26,100 --> 04:28:29,100 >> I'm going to move us along in the 1415 04:28:29,100 --> 04:28:31,100 interest of time on this, if that's okay. 1416 04:28:31,100 --> 04:28:32,100 if you could call the next item. 1417 04:28:32,100 --> 04:28:34,401 >> this is 8, open session, 1418 04:28:35,100 --> 04:28:38,100 presentation items, 8a is fiscal year 1419 04:28:38,100 --> 04:28:40,100 2027 adopted budget update and 1420 04:28:40,100 --> 04:28:41,100 multiyear financial projections. 1421 04:28:41,100 --> 04:28:44,100 which will be presented by vice 1422 04:28:44,100 --> 04:28:46,100 chancellor shannon carter. 1423 04:28:47,100 --> 04:28:50,100 >> alright, the floor is yours. 1424 04:28:50,100 --> 04:28:51,100 >> I apologize, I want to stand here 1425 04:28:51,100 --> 04:28:53,100 so I can see everyone's face. 1426 04:28:53,100 --> 04:28:55,100 I'm giving a little more information 1427 04:28:55,100 --> 04:28:57,100 so when we get into next month when 1428 04:28:57,100 --> 04:28:59,100 you guys get that budget book in your 1429 04:28:59,100 --> 04:29:01,100 hand, you're going to be able to 1430 04:29:01,100 --> 04:29:04,100 answer a lot of questions that you 1431 04:29:04,100 --> 04:29:06,100 may have, so let's start with the next 1432 04:29:06,100 --> 04:29:07,100 slide. 1433 04:29:07,100 --> 04:29:09,100 so, here we really just want to say 1434 04:29:09,100 --> 04:29:11,100 thank you who put a lot of work in 1435 04:29:11,100 --> 04:29:12,100 into this. 1436 04:29:12,100 --> 04:29:15,100 this is how we started and this is how 1437 04:29:15,100 --> 04:29:17,100 we're ending, the budget is not 1438 04:29:17,100 --> 04:29:19,100 completed by finance alone, it is a 1439 04:29:19,100 --> 04:29:22,100 collective effort by mostly the 1440 04:29:24,100 --> 04:29:26,100 administrator, human resources, 1441 04:29:26,100 --> 04:29:28,100 instructors, everyone has a buy-in, 1442 04:29:28,100 --> 04:29:31,100 thank you for everyone who's gotten us 1443 04:29:31,100 --> 04:29:32,100 here. 1444 04:29:32,100 --> 04:29:34,100 so, let's look at the districtwide 1445 04:29:34,100 --> 04:29:37,100 snapshot, when we look across all the 1446 04:29:37,100 --> 04:29:40,601 district funds, city college is a 1447 04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:42,100 significant public investment, the 1448 04:29:42,100 --> 04:29:44,100 largest revenue source shown is the 1449 04:29:44,100 --> 04:29:47,100 blue which is on the u-fund, that is 1450 04:29:47,100 --> 04:29:49,100 driven primarily by our apportionment 1451 04:29:49,100 --> 04:29:51,100 and other unrestricted revenues but on 1452 04:29:51,100 --> 04:29:53,100 the expenditure side, the largest 1453 04:29:53,100 --> 04:29:55,100 component this year is associated with 1454 04:29:55,100 --> 04:29:58,100 our bond funded capital program, 1455 04:29:58,100 --> 04:30:00,100 that's that large gold area you see 1456 04:30:00,100 --> 04:30:02,401 on the expenditure side. 1457 04:30:07,100 --> 04:30:08,100 let's go into the numbers. 1458 04:30:08,100 --> 04:30:11,100 this is the slide that provides the 1459 04:30:11,100 --> 04:30:12,100 detailed history behind our 1460 04:30:12,100 --> 04:30:13,100 unrestricted position. 1461 04:30:13,100 --> 04:30:16,100 but there's good news here, over the 1462 04:30:16,100 --> 04:30:19,100 last several years, city college has 1463 04:30:19,100 --> 04:30:20,100 significantly strengthened its 1464 04:30:20,100 --> 04:30:21,100 financial position. 1465 04:30:21,100 --> 04:30:24,100 the ending fund balance increased from 1466 04:30:24,100 --> 04:30:26,401 19.1 million to a projected 72.2 1467 04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:29,100 million. 1468 04:30:29,100 --> 04:30:30,100 that did not happen accidentally. 1469 04:30:30,100 --> 04:30:32,100 again, I would like to honor all the 1470 04:30:32,100 --> 04:30:34,100 work we've been doing over the past 1471 04:30:34,100 --> 04:30:37,100 few years but within this last year, 1472 04:30:37,100 --> 04:30:39,100 there was a lot of hard work and the 1473 04:30:39,100 --> 04:30:40,100 leadership of the chancellor, so thank 1474 04:30:40,100 --> 04:30:41,100 you for that. 1475 04:30:41,100 --> 04:30:43,000 but this also reflect deliberate 1476 04:30:43,000 --> 04:30:44,100 fiscal management and provides the 1477 04:30:44,100 --> 04:30:47,100 college with an important financial 1478 04:30:47,100 --> 04:30:48,100 cushion. 1479 04:30:48,100 --> 04:30:49,100 but there's another number on this 1480 04:30:49,100 --> 04:30:52,100 page that deserves our attention, in 1481 04:30:52,100 --> 04:30:54,100 fiscal year 26-27, revenues are 1482 04:30:54,100 --> 04:30:56,100 projected at approximately 207.4 1483 04:31:03,100 --> 04:31:06,100 million dollars when transfers are 1484 04:31:06,100 --> 04:31:08,100 207.2 million, we're a bit balanced 1485 04:31:08,100 --> 04:31:10,100 but barely. 1486 04:31:11,100 --> 04:31:12,100 the distinction between becomes very 1487 04:31:12,100 --> 04:31:15,601 important as we move into the 1488 04:31:16,100 --> 04:31:19,601 multiyear forecast later on in the 1489 04:31:21,100 --> 04:31:22,100 presentation. 1490 04:31:22,100 --> 04:31:23,100 so, here this simplifies the previous 1491 04:31:23,100 --> 04:31:26,100 slide into three numbers, the 207.4 1492 04:31:27,100 --> 04:31:30,100 million of revenue, the 207.1 in 1493 04:31:30,100 --> 04:31:33,100 expenditures and a 72.2 million dollar 1494 04:31:34,100 --> 04:31:36,100 ending fund balance, that produces a 1495 04:31:36,100 --> 04:31:38,100 reserve of approximately 34.85%. 1496 04:31:41,100 --> 04:31:44,100 a 34.85% reserve gives city college 1497 04:31:45,100 --> 04:31:47,100 flexibility and protection against 1498 04:31:47,100 --> 04:31:49,100 uncertainty and that is a strength but 1499 04:31:49,100 --> 04:31:52,100 I want to make an important 1500 04:31:52,100 --> 04:31:55,100 distinction, a reserve is a financial 1501 04:31:55,100 --> 04:31:58,100 safeguard, not an ongoing revenue 1502 04:31:59,100 --> 04:32:01,100 source. 1503 04:32:01,100 --> 04:32:03,100 we cannot solve recurring expenditure 1504 04:32:03,100 --> 04:32:06,100 growth with one-time fund balance 1505 04:32:06,100 --> 04:32:07,100 indefinitely. 1506 04:32:07,100 --> 04:32:09,100 this is giving us something valuable 1507 04:32:09,100 --> 04:32:11,100 which is time. 1508 04:32:11,100 --> 04:32:13,100 time to make thoughtful decisions 1509 04:32:13,100 --> 04:32:15,100 rather than reactive ones. 1510 04:32:15,100 --> 04:32:18,100 the reserve has increased from 10.65 1511 04:32:18,100 --> 04:32:22,201 in fiscal year 22-23 to a projected 1512 04:32:23,100 --> 04:32:25,100 34.85% in 26-27. 1513 04:32:27,100 --> 04:32:30,100 here is our restricted funds. 1514 04:32:31,100 --> 04:32:32,100 there we go. 1515 04:32:32,100 --> 04:32:35,100 here's our restricted funds, you'll 1516 04:32:35,100 --> 04:32:37,100 see substantial growth in our 1517 04:32:37,100 --> 04:32:39,100 restricted funds, that's mostly with 1518 04:32:39,100 --> 04:32:41,100 our carry over and with our 44.8 1519 04:32:41,100 --> 04:32:44,601 million dollars, so again we are 1520 04:32:45,100 --> 04:32:48,100 actively working to spend down those 1521 04:32:48,100 --> 04:32:49,100 restricted funds with the incoming new 1522 04:32:49,100 --> 04:32:50,100 vice chancellor, we will actively be 1523 04:32:50,100 --> 04:32:52,100 working with spending plans along with 1524 04:32:52,100 --> 04:32:53,100 our deans and our department chairs. 1525 04:32:53,100 --> 04:32:55,100 next slide. 1526 04:32:59,100 --> 04:33:00,100 so, first before we go into the 1527 04:33:00,100 --> 04:33:02,100 multiyear, I want to talk about 1528 04:33:02,100 --> 04:33:03,100 assumptions so we're looking at the 1529 04:33:03,100 --> 04:33:04,100 same thing. 1530 04:33:04,100 --> 04:33:06,100 before looking at that forecast, it's 1531 04:33:06,100 --> 04:33:09,601 important to understand what drives it. 1532 04:33:10,100 --> 04:33:12,100 so, a multiyear projection is not a 1533 04:33:12,100 --> 04:33:14,100 prediction of exactly what will 1534 04:33:14,100 --> 04:33:17,100 happen, it is a planning tool that 1535 04:33:17,100 --> 04:33:19,100 tells us what could happen in our 1536 04:33:19,100 --> 04:33:20,100 current assumptions hold. 1537 04:33:20,100 --> 04:33:23,100 we have assumed 2% annual enrollment 1538 04:33:24,100 --> 04:33:26,100 growth, future colas, increases in 1539 04:33:26,100 --> 04:33:29,601 health and welfare costs step and 1540 04:33:31,100 --> 04:33:32,100 column movement, operating cost ess 1541 04:33:32,100 --> 04:33:35,100 cal lacing and the potential return of 1542 04:33:35,100 --> 04:33:36,100 a state deficit factor. 1543 04:33:36,100 --> 04:33:39,100 most importantly the projection holds 1544 04:33:39,100 --> 04:33:41,100 our scff funding floor at 1545 04:33:41,100 --> 04:33:43,100 approximately 169.1 million dollars. 1546 04:33:43,100 --> 04:33:45,401 that includes our 1.44% discretionary 1547 04:33:48,100 --> 04:33:49,100 cola. 1548 04:33:49,100 --> 04:33:50,100 these assumptions will change as new 1549 04:33:50,100 --> 04:33:51,100 information becomes available. 1550 04:33:51,100 --> 04:33:54,100 our job is to update the forecast 1551 04:33:54,100 --> 04:33:56,100 continuously and make decisions early 1552 04:33:56,100 --> 04:33:58,401 when the trajectory changes. 1553 04:33:59,100 --> 04:34:00,100 next slide, please. 1554 04:34:00,100 --> 04:34:03,100 so, again, this slide distills those 1555 04:34:03,100 --> 04:34:06,100 assumptions into the major building 1556 04:34:06,100 --> 04:34:08,100 blocks and this is where the 1557 04:34:08,100 --> 04:34:10,100 structural challenge starts to become 1558 04:34:10,100 --> 04:34:11,100 visible. 1559 04:34:11,100 --> 04:34:13,100 we are assuming enrollment growth, we 1560 04:34:13,100 --> 04:34:15,100 are assuming cola which are positives 1561 04:34:15,100 --> 04:34:17,100 but at the same time, health and 1562 04:34:17,100 --> 04:34:19,100 welfare costs are projected to 1563 04:34:19,100 --> 04:34:21,100 increase 6% annually. 1564 04:34:21,100 --> 04:34:24,100 operating costs remain elevated and 1565 04:34:24,100 --> 04:34:26,100 the forecast introduces a state 1566 04:34:26,100 --> 04:34:29,100 deficit factor, so the challenge isn't 1567 04:34:29,100 --> 04:34:30,100 simply whether revenue growers, the 1568 04:34:30,100 --> 04:34:33,100 challenge is whether revenue grows 1569 04:34:33,100 --> 04:34:36,100 fast enough to keep pace with our cost 1570 04:34:36,100 --> 04:34:37,100 structure. 1571 04:34:37,100 --> 04:34:40,100 under the current assumptions, it does 1572 04:34:40,100 --> 04:34:42,100 not. 1573 04:34:43,100 --> 04:34:46,100 here is our multiyear projection with 1574 04:34:46,100 --> 04:34:47,100 the unrestricted fund. 1575 04:34:47,100 --> 04:34:49,100 this is one of the most important 1576 04:34:49,100 --> 04:34:51,401 slides in this presentation. 1577 04:34:52,100 --> 04:34:55,100 26-27 is essentially balanced but 1578 04:34:57,100 --> 04:35:00,100 beginning in 27-28, expenditures begin 1579 04:35:00,100 --> 04:35:01,100 growing faster than revenues. 1580 04:35:01,100 --> 04:35:04,100 our projected operating costs are 1581 04:35:04,100 --> 04:35:06,100 approximately breaking even this year 1582 04:35:06,100 --> 04:35:07,100 but the following year starting our 1583 04:35:07,100 --> 04:35:10,100 deficit which is 6.6 million, then 1584 04:35:11,100 --> 04:35:13,401 16.6 million and ultimately 24 million 1585 04:35:14,100 --> 04:35:16,100 in fiscal year 29-30. 1586 04:35:16,100 --> 04:35:20,100 I want to emphasize that these are 1587 04:35:20,100 --> 04:35:22,401 projections, not predetermined outcomes 1588 04:35:24,100 --> 04:35:25,100 and that is precisely why we are 1589 04:35:25,100 --> 04:35:26,100 showing them now. 1590 04:35:26,100 --> 04:35:27,100 the purpose of a multiyear projection 1591 04:35:27,100 --> 04:35:31,100 is not to tell us we have a future 1592 04:35:31,100 --> 04:35:32,100 problem, it's to give us enough time 1593 04:35:32,100 --> 04:35:33,100 to prevent one. 1594 04:35:33,100 --> 04:35:35,100 so, the detailed projection shows 1595 04:35:35,100 --> 04:35:37,401 revenue remaining around 205 to 207 1596 04:35:39,100 --> 04:35:41,100 million but expenditures and transfers 1597 04:35:41,100 --> 04:35:44,601 grow up to 228.7 million by 29-30. 1598 04:35:50,100 --> 04:35:53,100 here is where we illustrate. 1599 04:35:53,100 --> 04:35:54,100 this chart makes the issue much easier 1600 04:35:54,100 --> 04:35:56,100 to see. 1601 04:35:57,100 --> 04:36:00,100 the blue bars which is our revenue 1602 04:36:00,100 --> 04:36:01,100 remains relatively flat. 1603 04:36:01,100 --> 04:36:03,100 the red bars which are our 1604 04:36:03,100 --> 04:36:05,100 expenditures continue moving upward. 1605 04:36:05,100 --> 04:36:09,201 that's -- that space between the two 1606 04:36:11,100 --> 04:36:14,100 grap gaps are our structural deficit. 1607 04:36:14,100 --> 04:36:16,100 these year there essentially isn't one 1608 04:36:16,100 --> 04:36:19,601 but next year it becomes 6.6 million, 1609 04:36:20,100 --> 04:36:22,100 then 16.6 million and then the 24 1610 04:36:22,100 --> 04:36:23,100 million. 1611 04:36:23,100 --> 04:36:25,100 so, our challenge is not simply 1612 04:36:25,100 --> 04:36:27,100 cutting a budget, it is changing the 1613 04:36:27,100 --> 04:36:30,100 trajectory of these two lines, 1614 04:36:30,100 --> 04:36:32,100 looking at both sides of the equation, 1615 04:36:32,100 --> 04:36:34,401 controlling our recurring costs, 1616 04:36:35,100 --> 04:36:37,100 strengthening our enrollment, 1617 04:36:37,100 --> 04:36:40,100 maximizing our scff performance and 1618 04:36:41,100 --> 04:36:43,100 identifying sustainable revenue 1619 04:36:44,100 --> 04:36:45,100 opportunities. 1620 04:36:45,100 --> 04:36:46,100 next slide. 1621 04:36:46,100 --> 04:36:48,100 here now we can see what happens if we 1622 04:36:48,100 --> 04:36:50,100 we do nothing. 1623 04:36:50,100 --> 04:36:53,100 our reserve peaks at approximately 1624 04:36:53,100 --> 04:36:55,401 36.9% and remains strong at 35.85% 1625 04:36:57,100 --> 04:36:59,100 this year, as recurring expenditures 1626 04:36:59,100 --> 04:37:02,100 exceed recurring revenues, the reserve 1627 04:37:02,100 --> 04:37:04,100 begins doing exactly what reserves to 1628 04:37:04,100 --> 04:37:07,100 which is absorbing the difference. 1629 04:37:07,100 --> 04:37:10,601 it declines to 30%, then to 22% and 1630 04:37:11,100 --> 04:37:13,100 approximately 11% by 29-30. 1631 04:37:13,100 --> 04:37:16,100 the concern isn't that we have an 1632 04:37:16,100 --> 04:37:17,100 inadequate reserve today, the concern 1633 04:37:17,100 --> 04:37:20,100 is the speed at which the projection 1634 04:37:20,100 --> 04:37:22,100 will consume it. 1635 04:37:25,100 --> 04:37:27,100 but here let's talk through a 1636 04:37:27,100 --> 04:37:29,100 preliminary rising analysis. 1637 04:37:29,100 --> 04:37:33,100 we frame this as a preliminary because 1638 04:37:33,100 --> 04:37:35,100 fiscal stewardship isn't simply about 1639 04:37:35,100 --> 04:37:36,100 maintaining a particular percentage, 1640 04:37:36,100 --> 04:37:38,100 four things stand out. 1641 04:37:38,100 --> 04:37:41,100 first, this year's operating margin is 1642 04:37:41,100 --> 04:37:43,100 extremely thin, approximately 288 1643 04:37:43,100 --> 04:37:44,100 thousand. 1644 04:37:44,100 --> 04:37:46,100 second, the structural deficit emerges 1645 04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:48,401 next year and accelerates. 1646 04:37:50,100 --> 04:37:52,100 third, that deficit begins consuming 1647 04:37:52,100 --> 04:37:53,100 our reserve. 1648 04:37:53,100 --> 04:37:56,100 but fourth, by fiscal year 29-30, the 1649 04:37:56,100 --> 04:37:58,100 projection levers us with 1650 04:37:58,100 --> 04:38:00,100 approximately one month and a week and 1651 04:38:00,100 --> 04:38:03,100 a half with operating expenditures and 1652 04:38:03,100 --> 04:38:04,100 reserves. 1653 04:38:04,100 --> 04:38:05,100 our reserve levelers gives us the 1654 04:38:05,100 --> 04:38:08,100 ability to be strategic today, as we 1655 04:38:08,100 --> 04:38:11,601 continue to prepare for our future. 1656 04:38:13,100 --> 04:38:16,100 however this table right here puts 1657 04:38:16,100 --> 04:38:18,100 this entire story on one page. 1658 04:38:18,100 --> 04:38:21,100 the college enters 26-27 with 1659 04:38:24,100 --> 04:38:26,100 approximately 72.2 million dollars in 1660 04:38:26,100 --> 04:38:27,100 a fund balance which is approximately 1661 04:38:27,100 --> 04:38:28,100 four months of operating expenses. 1662 04:38:28,100 --> 04:38:30,100 under the current assumptions, that 1663 04:38:30,100 --> 04:38:32,401 falls to approximately 25.1 million 1664 04:38:33,100 --> 04:38:35,100 which is about 1.32 months of 1665 04:38:35,100 --> 04:38:36,100 operating expenses. 1666 04:38:36,100 --> 04:38:38,100 but the most important number on this 1667 04:38:38,100 --> 04:38:40,100 slide is 72 million or the 25 million. 1668 04:38:40,100 --> 04:38:43,100 it is the growing difference between the 1669 04:38:43,100 --> 04:38:45,100 recurring revenue and the recurring 1670 04:38:45,100 --> 04:38:46,100 expenditures. 1671 04:38:46,100 --> 04:38:49,100 if we address that structural 1672 04:38:51,100 --> 04:38:52,100 imbalance, we'll protect the reserve. 1673 04:38:52,100 --> 04:38:55,100 if we focus on the percentage, we risk 1674 04:38:55,100 --> 04:38:58,601 treating the symptom rather than the 1675 04:38:59,100 --> 04:39:00,100 cause. 1676 04:39:00,100 --> 04:39:01,100 so here this graphic is intentionally 1677 04:39:01,100 --> 04:39:03,100 very simple. 1678 04:39:03,100 --> 04:39:05,100 if the assumptions hold and no 1679 04:39:05,100 --> 04:39:07,100 proactive actions are taken, 1680 04:39:07,100 --> 04:39:09,100 approximately 47.1 million of our 1681 04:39:09,100 --> 04:39:11,100 unrestricted reserve will be consumed 1682 04:39:11,100 --> 04:39:12,100 over the next three years. 1683 04:39:12,100 --> 04:39:15,100 this is the reason why we're working 1684 04:39:15,100 --> 04:39:18,100 hard to make sure we're monitoring our 1685 04:39:18,100 --> 04:39:20,100 expenditures and evaluating 1686 04:39:22,100 --> 04:39:23,100 everything we're doing. 1687 04:39:23,100 --> 04:39:24,100 I don't present this number to 1688 04:39:24,100 --> 04:39:26,100 subjecting it is inevitable but it is 1689 04:39:26,100 --> 04:39:27,100 avoidable. 1690 04:39:27,100 --> 04:39:28,100 we have visibility and we have time, 1691 04:39:28,100 --> 04:39:31,601 we have a strong starting reserve. 1692 04:39:36,100 --> 04:39:38,100 what does all of this mean. 1693 04:39:38,100 --> 04:39:41,100 the 26-27 adopted budget is balanced, 1694 04:39:41,100 --> 04:39:43,100 when we print that out, we should have 1695 04:39:43,100 --> 04:39:44,100 that out by september 1. 1696 04:39:44,100 --> 04:39:47,100 when we're looking forward, the 1697 04:39:50,100 --> 04:39:51,100 strength should not make uss very 1698 04:39:51,100 --> 04:39:52,100 complaisant. 1699 04:39:52,100 --> 04:39:54,100 I really want to express the 1700 04:39:54,100 --> 04:39:56,100 leadership from the chancellor is 1701 04:39:56,100 --> 04:39:58,100 really make us evaluate how we're 1702 04:39:58,100 --> 04:40:00,100 moving forward and that trajectory to 1703 04:40:00,100 --> 04:40:02,100 make sure we improve. 1704 04:40:02,100 --> 04:40:05,100 as we continue to go this, our numbers 1705 04:40:05,100 --> 04:40:08,100 should improve with our correct 1706 04:40:08,100 --> 04:40:09,100 leadership. 1707 04:40:09,100 --> 04:40:10,100 we appreciate everyone's participation 1708 04:40:10,100 --> 04:40:11,100 and understanding how we're going to 1709 04:40:11,100 --> 04:40:14,100 move forward, this is not just about 1710 04:40:14,100 --> 04:40:16,100 reducing expenditures, it's about 1711 04:40:16,100 --> 04:40:17,100 being intentional and thoughtful in 1712 04:40:17,100 --> 04:40:19,100 our investments. 1713 04:40:23,100 --> 04:40:27,100 so, I want to close again with -- 1714 04:40:27,100 --> 04:40:29,100 we're going to lean on our board to 1715 04:40:29,100 --> 04:40:31,100 assist us as we move forward but we 1716 04:40:31,100 --> 04:40:33,100 want to understand and will continue 1717 04:40:33,100 --> 04:40:36,100 to bring this budget forward as we're 1718 04:40:36,100 --> 04:40:38,100 making these decisions to ensure we're 1719 04:40:38,100 --> 04:40:40,401 being transparent but most 1720 04:40:41,100 --> 04:40:42,100 importantly, collaborative. 1721 04:40:42,100 --> 04:40:43,100 thank you. 1722 04:40:43,100 --> 04:40:44,100 >> thank you so much. 1723 04:40:44,100 --> 04:40:46,100 before I open it up to my colleague, 1724 04:40:46,100 --> 04:40:48,100 let's go ahead and take public comment. 1725 04:40:48,100 --> 04:40:50,100 >> yes, we have a total of four. 1726 04:40:50,100 --> 04:40:53,601 the first one's leslie smith followed 1727 04:40:54,100 --> 04:40:56,100 by abigail bornstein followed by 1728 04:40:56,100 --> 04:40:58,401 susana a atwood, leslie? 1729 04:41:01,100 --> 04:41:05,100 >> I have arthritis, I'm on the list, 1730 04:41:05,100 --> 04:41:06,100 operation. 1731 04:41:06,100 --> 04:41:07,100 hard work, seriously, to put money 1732 04:41:07,100 --> 04:41:10,100 into the reserves instead of serving 1733 04:41:10,100 --> 04:41:12,100 students, that's not hard work, it's 1734 04:41:12,100 --> 04:41:13,100 wrong work. 1735 04:41:13,100 --> 04:41:16,100 does everyone know what k-12, 1736 04:41:16,100 --> 04:41:17,100 california and the city and county 1737 04:41:17,100 --> 04:41:19,100 have in common? 1738 04:41:19,100 --> 04:41:21,100 reserves are limited to 10%. 1739 04:41:21,100 --> 04:41:24,100 you cannot put more than 10% into your 1740 04:41:24,100 --> 04:41:26,100 reserves if you are k-12 school 1741 04:41:26,100 --> 04:41:27,100 district. 1742 04:41:27,100 --> 04:41:31,100 the state of california or the city 1743 04:41:31,100 --> 04:41:33,100 and county of san francisco. 1744 04:41:33,100 --> 04:41:34,100 why? 1745 04:41:34,100 --> 04:41:37,100 why are they limited to 10? 1746 04:41:37,100 --> 04:41:39,100 because taxpayers want the money they 1747 04:41:39,100 --> 04:41:41,100 are giving you to be spent on the 1748 04:41:41,100 --> 04:41:43,100 purpose that they are allocated for. 1749 04:41:43,100 --> 04:41:45,100 what is the one policy change that is 1750 04:41:45,100 --> 04:41:47,100 needed to fix our college? 1751 04:41:47,100 --> 04:41:49,100 focus on student enrollment growth, 1752 04:41:49,100 --> 04:41:53,100 nothing else will work to fix the 1753 04:41:53,100 --> 04:41:54,100 budget. 1754 04:41:54,100 --> 04:41:57,100 how big is the problem, we're down 24% 1755 04:41:57,100 --> 04:41:59,100 in ftes since 17-18. 1756 04:41:59,100 --> 04:42:01,100 we used to serve 22 thousand -- when I 1757 04:42:01,100 --> 04:42:03,100 was here, a lot more. 1758 04:42:03,100 --> 04:42:06,100 and now we're serving 16 thousand. 1759 04:42:06,100 --> 04:42:08,100 almost 17 thousand. 1760 04:42:08,100 --> 04:42:10,100 so, that's the chancellor in her 1761 04:42:10,100 --> 04:42:13,100 report reported 2.6 million is the 1762 04:42:13,100 --> 04:42:16,601 cost, ongoing faculty cost to increase 1763 04:42:17,100 --> 04:42:20,100 675 ftes at the downtown campus that 1764 04:42:20,100 --> 04:42:23,100 would have kept the 2.2 million at the 1765 04:42:23,100 --> 04:42:24,100 base. 1766 04:42:24,100 --> 04:42:25,100 it's about 20 million bucks to get us 1767 04:42:25,100 --> 04:42:27,100 back to where we need to go so we can 1768 04:42:27,100 --> 04:42:29,401 get cola and growth. 1769 04:42:32,100 --> 04:42:33,100 ongoing, that's ongoing. 1770 04:42:33,100 --> 04:42:34,100 who's responsible for making those 1771 04:42:34,100 --> 04:42:36,100 policy changes that will save city 1772 04:42:36,100 --> 04:42:37,100 college? 1773 04:42:37,100 --> 04:42:38,100 the board of trustees are legally 1774 04:42:38,100 --> 04:42:41,100 responsible for policy and direction, 1775 04:42:41,100 --> 04:42:44,100 establish general policies and ensure 1776 04:42:44,100 --> 04:42:45,100 that local educational programs 1777 04:42:45,100 --> 04:42:46,100 match community needs. 1778 04:42:46,100 --> 04:42:49,100 sounds like the weston report, sounds 1779 04:42:49,100 --> 04:42:53,100 like we know what we should be doing. 1780 04:42:53,100 --> 04:42:56,601 hire and evaluate and support a 1781 04:42:58,100 --> 04:43:00,100 chancellor who will do the right thing. 1782 04:43:00,100 --> 04:43:03,100 we owe it to our adults, our 1783 04:43:03,100 --> 04:43:04,100 communities, our taxpayers and our 1784 04:43:04,100 --> 04:43:07,100 state to serve the students. 1785 04:43:09,100 --> 04:43:11,100 >> thank you, leslie. 1786 04:43:11,100 --> 04:43:13,100 next is abigail bornstein who will be 1787 04:43:13,100 --> 04:43:15,100 joining us remotely. 1788 04:43:16,100 --> 04:43:19,100 >> please turn to the pdf document, 1789 04:43:19,100 --> 04:43:21,100 page 4, labeled slide 12. 1790 04:43:22,100 --> 04:43:23,100 under expenditures, look over to the 1791 04:43:23,100 --> 04:43:25,100 right side, what do you see in the 1792 04:43:25,100 --> 04:43:26,100 last column? 1793 04:43:26,100 --> 04:43:29,100 every classification on the right side 1794 04:43:29,100 --> 04:43:32,100 shows a double digit year over year 1795 04:43:32,100 --> 04:43:35,100 increase ranging from 15% to more than 1796 04:43:35,100 --> 04:43:36,100 200%. 1797 04:43:36,100 --> 04:43:40,100 there's one exception and it jumps off 1798 04:43:40,100 --> 04:43:41,100 the page, academic salaries are up 12% 1799 04:43:41,100 --> 04:43:43,100 year over year. 1800 04:43:43,100 --> 04:43:45,100 what does this tell our san francisco 1801 04:43:45,100 --> 04:43:46,100 community, that city college of san 1802 04:43:46,100 --> 04:43:49,100 francisco is not focused on educating 1803 04:43:49,100 --> 04:43:51,100 classes or the teachers needed to 1804 04:43:51,100 --> 04:43:54,100 teach those classes but out of 1805 04:43:54,100 --> 04:43:55,100 everything else, teaching is becoming 1806 04:43:55,100 --> 04:43:58,100 secondary to building support services 1807 04:43:58,100 --> 04:44:00,100 and outreach outside contracts. 1808 04:44:00,100 --> 04:44:02,100 the school's priorities have shifted 1809 04:44:02,100 --> 04:44:05,100 from teaching in classes to almost 1810 04:44:05,100 --> 04:44:07,100 anything else. 1811 04:44:07,100 --> 04:44:09,100 before any negotiated pay increases, 1812 04:44:09,100 --> 04:44:12,100 classified salaries are already up 16% 1813 04:44:12,100 --> 04:44:13,100 year over year. 1814 04:44:13,100 --> 04:44:16,100 do you see the additional 6.4 million 1815 04:44:16,100 --> 04:44:17,100 dollars? 1816 04:44:17,100 --> 04:44:19,100 don't forget benefits, that's 9 million 1817 04:44:19,100 --> 04:44:20,100 dollars more this year and even 1818 04:44:20,100 --> 04:44:22,100 more in the multiyear projection, 1819 04:44:22,100 --> 04:44:25,100 three years out, that's 9 million 1820 04:44:25,100 --> 04:44:26,100 dollars becomes 27 million dollars 1821 04:44:26,100 --> 04:44:28,100 from our reserves. 1822 04:44:28,100 --> 04:44:31,100 hasn't it been the board that has 1823 04:44:31,100 --> 04:44:32,100 approved the fact that the one group gets 1824 04:44:32,100 --> 04:44:35,100 an increase, the other group must get 1825 04:44:35,100 --> 04:44:37,100 the same increase too? 1826 04:44:37,100 --> 04:44:39,100 based on this budget and these year 1827 04:44:39,100 --> 04:44:40,100 over year increase, this college is 1828 04:44:40,100 --> 04:44:42,100 becoming more about buildings and 1829 04:44:42,100 --> 04:44:44,100 activities other than teaching classes 1830 04:44:44,100 --> 04:44:46,100 and educating students. 1831 04:44:46,100 --> 04:44:49,100 we are moving from a teaching and 1832 04:44:49,100 --> 04:44:50,100 education focused college to something 1833 04:44:50,100 --> 04:44:51,100 else. 1834 04:44:51,100 --> 04:44:54,100 that's what this budget says to me. 1835 04:44:54,100 --> 04:44:56,100 lastly, I would really like the board 1836 04:44:56,100 --> 04:44:59,100 to receive a presentation on budget 1837 04:44:59,100 --> 04:45:01,100 line item 5909, receivable write-off, 1838 04:45:01,100 --> 04:45:04,100 why do we continue year after year to 1839 04:45:04,100 --> 04:45:07,100 write off millions of uncollected 1840 04:45:07,100 --> 04:45:08,100 receivables, 8 million dollars in the 1841 04:45:08,100 --> 04:45:10,100 last three years, are we projecting 1842 04:45:10,100 --> 04:45:12,100 that to continue as 2.5 million 1843 04:45:12,100 --> 04:45:15,100 dollars each year and for how many 1844 04:45:15,100 --> 04:45:16,100 years? 1845 04:45:16,100 --> 04:45:17,100 there should be a presentation on 1846 04:45:17,100 --> 04:45:18,100 this. 1847 04:45:18,100 --> 04:45:19,100 thank you. 1848 04:45:19,100 --> 04:45:22,100 >> thank you very much, abigail. 1849 04:45:22,100 --> 04:45:24,100 next is susana atwood followed by 1850 04:45:24,100 --> 04:45:26,100 lydia hernandez. 1851 04:45:28,100 --> 04:45:30,401 >> susana atwood, retired business 1852 04:45:31,100 --> 04:45:32,100 faculty. 1853 04:45:32,100 --> 04:45:36,100 the first thing I want to say is maybe 1854 04:45:36,100 --> 04:45:37,100 fortunately, maybe unfortunately, 1855 04:45:37,100 --> 04:45:40,100 there is a new state auditor's report 1856 04:45:40,100 --> 04:45:44,801 out that has many findings for us, for 1857 04:45:46,100 --> 04:45:48,100 ccsf, and I recommend you folks look 1858 04:45:48,100 --> 04:45:51,100 at it on the state auditor's website 1859 04:45:51,100 --> 04:45:54,100 because it's presented really well 1860 04:45:54,100 --> 04:45:55,100 there. 1861 04:45:55,100 --> 04:45:57,100 but it kind of throws a monkey wrench 1862 04:45:57,100 --> 04:45:59,100 into this whole budget because it's 1863 04:45:59,100 --> 04:46:03,100 asking for some things that we didn't 1864 04:46:03,100 --> 04:46:06,100 know it, right, it came out august 8 1865 04:46:06,100 --> 04:46:07,100 and this budget book and everything 1866 04:46:07,100 --> 04:46:10,100 that the county department's been 1867 04:46:10,100 --> 04:46:12,100 working on was all done way before 1868 04:46:12,100 --> 04:46:14,100 that report came out but one of the 1869 04:46:14,100 --> 04:46:18,801 things I want to mention about it is 1870 04:46:20,100 --> 04:46:23,100 that it really wrote us up and said as 1871 04:46:23,100 --> 04:46:26,100 ccsf, we are bad at predictions going 1872 04:46:26,100 --> 04:46:29,100 forward and that the proof of that 1873 04:46:29,100 --> 04:46:31,100 pudding is that we have had consistent 1874 04:46:31,100 --> 04:46:33,100 surpluses for the last four or five 1875 04:46:33,100 --> 04:46:37,801 years and they list them and they also 1876 04:46:39,100 --> 04:46:41,100 really wrote up the state 1877 04:46:41,100 --> 04:46:44,100 chancellor on a lot of issues but 1878 04:46:44,100 --> 04:46:47,100 asked the state chancellor to monitor 1879 04:46:47,100 --> 04:46:50,100 things going forward, so if we take 1880 04:46:50,100 --> 04:46:54,100 what was just presented as a going 1881 04:46:54,100 --> 04:46:56,100 forward multiyear budget and make it 1882 04:46:56,100 --> 04:46:58,100 more realistic because it isn't 1883 04:46:58,100 --> 04:47:01,100 because we've been bad at righting 1884 04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:03,100 that for several years we have 20 1885 04:47:03,100 --> 04:47:05,100 million, 15 million surpluses at the 1886 04:47:05,100 --> 04:47:08,100 end of the year and they're saying we 1887 04:47:08,100 --> 04:47:09,100 should predict better. 1888 04:47:09,100 --> 04:47:11,100 if we do that, this whole thing ends 1889 04:47:11,100 --> 04:47:13,100 up looking better. 1890 04:47:13,100 --> 04:47:16,100 the other -- the second thing missing 1891 04:47:16,100 --> 04:47:18,100 from this is that we expect to come 1892 04:47:18,100 --> 04:47:21,601 out of hold harmless the following 1893 04:47:23,100 --> 04:47:25,100 year, 29, that's on this chart, so 1894 04:47:25,100 --> 04:47:28,100 that would be 29-30, we come out, we 1895 04:47:28,100 --> 04:47:31,100 then the following year get a full 1896 04:47:31,100 --> 04:47:33,100 cola and that cola bringers that thing 1897 04:47:33,100 --> 04:47:36,100 that went way down on the chart way up 1898 04:47:36,100 --> 04:47:37,100 again. 1899 04:47:37,100 --> 04:47:39,100 so, that has to be taken into 1900 04:47:39,100 --> 04:47:41,100 consideration that any structural 1901 04:47:41,100 --> 04:47:44,100 difference we have is very temporary 1902 04:47:44,100 --> 04:47:46,100 and can we live through a that 1903 04:47:46,100 --> 04:47:47,100 temporary period? 1904 04:47:47,100 --> 04:47:48,100 thank you. 1905 04:47:48,100 --> 04:47:49,100 >> thank you so much. 1906 04:47:49,100 --> 04:47:51,401 >> last is lydia hernandez. 1907 04:47:59,100 --> 04:48:02,100 >> good evening, members of the board 1908 04:48:02,100 --> 04:48:03,100 and administration. 1909 04:48:03,100 --> 04:48:06,100 so we're looking at multiyear 1910 04:48:06,100 --> 04:48:09,100 projections that warrant a structural 1911 04:48:09,100 --> 04:48:12,100 deficit by 2030 while our unrestricted 1912 04:48:13,100 --> 04:48:15,100 reserve has climbed to 31 million, 1913 04:48:15,100 --> 04:48:18,100 we don't have to guess whether this is 1914 04:48:18,100 --> 04:48:21,100 first fiscal practice because the 1915 04:48:21,100 --> 04:48:23,401 california state officer auditor 1916 04:48:25,100 --> 04:48:28,100 answered that for us, when we have 1917 04:48:28,100 --> 04:48:30,100 massive reserves without a concrete 1918 04:48:30,100 --> 04:48:33,100 plan to invest them, they are missing 1919 04:48:33,100 --> 04:48:34,100 critical opportunities and 1920 04:48:34,100 --> 04:48:36,100 shortchanging their students. 1921 04:48:37,100 --> 04:48:39,100 the state auditor directly challenges 1922 04:48:39,100 --> 04:48:40,100 the narrative that stock piling tens 1923 04:48:40,100 --> 04:48:43,100 of millions of dollars by slashing 1924 04:48:43,100 --> 04:48:45,401 course access is irresponsible 1925 04:48:46,100 --> 04:48:48,100 stewardship, it is institutional 1926 04:48:48,100 --> 04:48:49,100 paralysis a multiyear projection is 1927 04:48:49,100 --> 04:48:52,100 supposed to be an early warning tool, 1928 04:48:52,100 --> 04:48:54,100 not an excuse to engineer our own 1929 04:48:54,100 --> 04:48:57,100 decline, you could not project ftes 1930 04:48:57,100 --> 04:48:59,100 recovery while actively suppressing 1931 04:48:59,100 --> 04:49:02,100 the supply of classes that students 1932 04:49:02,100 --> 04:49:03,100 need. 1933 04:49:03,100 --> 04:49:05,100 I took micro economics here at city 1934 04:49:05,100 --> 04:49:07,100 college and you can not serve a 1935 04:49:07,100 --> 04:49:10,100 community that wants to learn if you 1936 04:49:10,100 --> 04:49:11,100 keep closing classroom doors. 1937 04:49:11,100 --> 04:49:14,100 look at san francisco today, the 1938 04:49:14,100 --> 04:49:17,100 nearly 100 thousand dollar west ed 1939 04:49:18,100 --> 04:49:21,100 study, the language learner education 1940 04:49:21,100 --> 04:49:24,100 is high, yet non-credit and esl 1941 04:49:24,100 --> 04:49:26,100 offerings are being choked out and 1942 04:49:26,100 --> 04:49:28,100 local residents who is are knocking on 1943 04:49:28,100 --> 04:49:30,100 our doors are being turned away. 1944 04:49:30,100 --> 04:49:32,100 this brings us directly to the nexus 1945 04:49:32,100 --> 04:49:34,401 test, san francisco taxpayers 1946 04:49:36,100 --> 04:49:38,100 contribute tens of millions dollars in 1947 04:49:38,100 --> 04:49:41,100 local parcel and sales tax and they 1948 04:49:41,100 --> 04:49:44,100 approve these measures and their tax 1949 04:49:44,100 --> 04:49:47,100 dollars fund concurrent students, they 1950 04:49:50,100 --> 04:49:52,100 cut the community classes that those 1951 04:49:52,100 --> 04:49:55,100 taxes were meant to fund fail it is 1952 04:49:55,100 --> 04:49:56,100 nexus. 1953 04:49:56,100 --> 04:49:58,100 the reserves are not meant to be 1954 04:49:58,100 --> 04:49:59,100 accumulated indefinitely at the 1955 04:49:59,100 --> 04:50:00,100 expense of instruction. 1956 04:50:00,100 --> 04:50:03,100 it is time to align our budget demand, 1957 04:50:03,100 --> 04:50:05,100 invest our surplus into high demand 1958 04:50:05,100 --> 04:50:07,100 class raises and put the community 1959 04:50:07,100 --> 04:50:08,100 back in city college. 1960 04:50:08,100 --> 04:50:10,100 thank you. 1961 04:50:10,100 --> 04:50:13,100 >> thank you very much, lydia. 1962 04:50:13,100 --> 04:50:14,100 that concludes public comment. 1963 04:50:14,100 --> 04:50:17,100 >> public comment on this item is now 1964 04:50:17,100 --> 04:50:18,100 closed. 1965 04:50:18,100 --> 04:50:19,100 we're going to begin discussion. 1966 04:50:19,100 --> 04:50:23,801 just as we open up discussion, at a 1967 04:50:26,100 --> 04:50:28,100 later point on the agenda, we will be 1968 04:50:28,100 --> 04:50:31,100 -- there will be a motion to have a 1969 04:50:31,100 --> 04:50:34,100 special meeting, so in order to 1970 04:50:34,100 --> 04:50:37,100 approve the budget before the required 1971 04:50:37,100 --> 04:50:40,601 deadline of september 15, so just -- 1972 04:50:41,100 --> 04:50:44,100 this is the before we're approving, 1973 04:50:44,100 --> 04:50:46,100 this is another round of a discussion 1974 04:50:46,100 --> 04:50:49,100 we're having before this is going to 1975 04:50:49,100 --> 04:50:52,100 come before a formal adoption on 1976 04:50:52,100 --> 04:50:53,100 september 10, so this is really our 1977 04:50:53,100 --> 04:50:54,100 time and this is the crux of the 1978 04:50:54,100 --> 04:50:56,100 discussion so I wanted to say that and 1979 04:50:56,100 --> 04:50:59,100 I want to take a quick bile break so I 1980 04:50:59,100 --> 04:51:02,100 am turning it over to vice-president 1981 04:51:02,100 --> 04:51:04,100 zamora to help facilitate the 1982 04:51:04,100 --> 04:51:06,100 discussion, I will be right back. 1983 04:51:06,100 --> 04:51:07,100 >> trustees, any comments? 1984 04:51:07,100 --> 04:51:09,100 trustee chung? 1985 04:51:14,100 --> 04:51:18,201 >> well, thank you, vc carter, for the 1986 04:51:22,100 --> 04:51:23,100 presentation. 1987 04:51:23,100 --> 04:51:27,100 I do have to point this out as many 1988 04:51:27,100 --> 04:51:29,100 many of you have probably figured out 1989 04:51:29,100 --> 04:51:32,100 that I'm not running for re-election 1990 04:51:32,100 --> 04:51:34,100 because I'm also looking to go to 1991 04:51:34,100 --> 04:51:36,100 graduate school, that's why I'm taking 1992 04:51:36,100 --> 04:51:39,100 my break to continue my education, yes. 1993 04:51:39,100 --> 04:51:40,100 [applause]. 1994 04:51:40,100 --> 04:51:44,801 so, as I look at standardized exams, I 1995 04:51:45,100 --> 04:51:49,100 can't help but look at some of the 1996 04:51:49,100 --> 04:51:51,100 graphs to scale. 1997 04:51:53,100 --> 04:51:55,100 shawn, if you could -- I don't know 1998 04:51:55,100 --> 04:51:58,100 the if you are controlling the screen 1999 04:51:58,100 --> 04:51:59,100 if you could help me out here. 2000 04:51:59,100 --> 04:52:02,100 I do want to -- I'll just quickly 2001 04:52:02,100 --> 04:52:05,100 start with in chronological order, 2002 04:52:12,100 --> 04:52:15,100 our expenditures including our capital 2003 04:52:16,100 --> 04:52:18,100 outlay bonds, and not accounting for 2004 04:52:18,100 --> 04:52:22,201 them in the sail manner -- same 2005 04:52:23,100 --> 04:52:25,100 manner, it seems like we're spending 2 2006 04:52:25,100 --> 04:52:26,100 million more than we have, I just 2007 04:52:26,100 --> 04:52:29,100 wanted to point out how that -- this 2008 04:52:29,100 --> 04:52:32,100 particular slide makes our college 2009 04:52:34,100 --> 04:52:35,100 look. 2010 04:52:35,100 --> 04:52:36,100 >> understood, but understanding that 2011 04:52:36,100 --> 04:52:37,100 our bonds are being more expended in 2012 04:52:37,100 --> 04:52:40,100 this year than we received them, that's 2013 04:52:40,100 --> 04:52:42,100 the reason why it's larger there but I 2014 04:52:42,100 --> 04:52:44,100 can see where you're coming from. 2015 04:52:44,100 --> 04:52:47,601 >> especially for the public, even if 2016 04:52:48,100 --> 04:52:50,100 it's an asterisk to help explain that 2017 04:52:50,100 --> 04:52:52,100 because otherwise you come to the 2018 04:52:52,100 --> 04:52:54,100 slide and you're like, we're really 2019 04:52:54,100 --> 04:52:56,100 mismanaging our money just looking at 2020 04:52:56,100 --> 04:52:58,100 this slide and that's not happening, 2021 04:52:58,100 --> 04:52:59,100 right. 2022 04:52:59,100 --> 04:53:00,100 >> absolutely not. 2023 04:53:00,100 --> 04:53:02,100 >> thank you. 2024 04:53:02,100 --> 04:53:05,100 I also wanted to point out the graph 2025 04:53:05,100 --> 04:53:09,801 in slide 10 or 9 as it's marked on the 2026 04:53:11,100 --> 04:53:12,100 presentation. 2027 04:53:12,100 --> 04:53:16,801 it doesn't quite scale -- are we there 2028 04:53:17,100 --> 04:53:21,100 yet, sorry, it's 10 on the pdf but it 2029 04:53:21,100 --> 04:53:24,601 jumps from 14 to 9, thank you, it 2030 04:53:27,100 --> 04:53:29,100 doesn't quite scale up, in fiscal year 2031 04:53:29,100 --> 04:53:32,100 28-29, the scale from the blue that 2032 04:53:32,100 --> 04:53:35,100 marks 200 million, the 20 million or 2033 04:53:35,100 --> 04:53:37,401 the 16 million difference, that 2034 04:53:38,100 --> 04:53:39,100 doubles in size, right. 2035 04:53:39,100 --> 04:53:42,100 I think this is quite -- right, again, 2036 04:53:42,100 --> 04:53:46,201 as far as scaling things, it does 2037 04:53:47,100 --> 04:53:48,100 really -- and I know that you spell 2038 04:53:48,100 --> 04:53:50,100 out the numbers on the right side, 2039 04:53:50,100 --> 04:53:51,100 again, -- 2040 04:53:51,100 --> 04:53:53,100 >> illustrating. 2041 04:53:54,100 --> 04:53:56,100 >> illustration, as to your point 2042 04:53:56,100 --> 04:53:59,100 about transparency and accuracy, I do 2043 04:53:59,100 --> 04:54:02,601 think showing the public that we're 2044 04:54:04,100 --> 04:54:07,100 not doubling our expenses compared to 2045 04:54:07,100 --> 04:54:09,100 our revenue, again, makes a huge 2046 04:54:09,100 --> 04:54:10,100 difference. 2047 04:54:10,100 --> 04:54:11,100 >> that's fair. 2048 04:54:11,100 --> 04:54:15,100 >> so I look forward to graphics at 2049 04:54:15,100 --> 04:54:16,100 scale in the future. 2050 04:54:16,100 --> 04:54:17,100 >> got it. 2051 04:54:17,100 --> 04:54:18,100 >> thank you. 2052 04:54:18,100 --> 04:54:22,100 as we get into the numbers and the 2053 04:54:22,100 --> 04:54:26,801 details here, I am -- I'm a little 2054 04:54:29,100 --> 04:54:33,100 confused as far as -- we'll start with 2055 04:54:33,100 --> 04:54:37,100 our revenue, I think as we -- so if we 2056 04:54:37,100 --> 04:54:41,201 go back to slide 4, our revenue which 2057 04:54:52,100 --> 04:54:55,601 went from 213 million is what we're 2058 04:54:56,100 --> 04:55:00,201 projecting or what we're going to be 2059 04:55:01,100 --> 04:55:03,100 adopting is 207.5 million, can you 2060 04:55:03,100 --> 04:55:05,100 help walk through why there's such a 2061 04:55:05,100 --> 04:55:08,100 difference in our state revenue? 2062 04:55:08,100 --> 04:55:10,100 >> yeah, definitely, one thing we also 2063 04:55:10,100 --> 04:55:13,100 have taken advantage of is our deficit 2064 04:55:13,100 --> 04:55:16,601 factor, so going from our unaudited 2065 04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:20,100 actual to our adopted budget, that's 2066 04:55:20,100 --> 04:55:23,100 within some sort of deficit factor 2067 04:55:23,100 --> 04:55:25,100 we're including so again that's 2068 04:55:25,100 --> 04:55:27,100 unaudited but this is really our 2069 04:55:27,100 --> 04:55:29,100 projection we're saying on the 207 2070 04:55:29,100 --> 04:55:31,100 million which is kind of flat from 2071 04:55:31,100 --> 04:55:34,100 what we're getting from our 2072 04:55:34,100 --> 04:55:35,100 apportionment. 2073 04:55:35,100 --> 04:55:38,100 >> and I do understand that. 2074 04:55:38,100 --> 04:55:39,100 I think every year there this 2075 04:55:39,100 --> 04:55:41,100 discussion about the deficit factor 2076 04:55:41,100 --> 04:55:43,100 that never comes true for community 2077 04:55:43,100 --> 04:55:45,100 colleges, right. 2078 04:55:46,100 --> 04:55:48,100 I mean, vc carter, you have probably 2079 04:55:48,100 --> 04:55:52,100 had the same experience in la, I 2080 04:55:52,100 --> 04:55:55,100 haven't seen -- in the four plus years 2081 04:55:55,100 --> 04:55:57,100 here and maybe dr. Messina, you have 2082 04:55:57,100 --> 04:55:59,100 been in the community college system 2083 04:55:59,100 --> 04:56:01,100 in california for much longer, I have 2084 04:56:01,100 --> 04:56:04,100 never seen the deficit factor come to 2085 04:56:04,100 --> 04:56:06,100 fruition as far as the impact on our 2086 04:56:06,100 --> 04:56:07,100 revenue. 2087 04:56:07,100 --> 04:56:08,100 I know there was that one year where 2088 04:56:08,100 --> 04:56:10,100 all of us got scared and we all 2089 04:56:10,100 --> 04:56:12,100 decided we need two months worth rf 2090 04:56:12,100 --> 04:56:15,100 revenue to hold in our reserves, but 2091 04:56:15,100 --> 04:56:17,100 with that exception. 2092 04:56:17,100 --> 04:56:19,100 >> yes, that's true but when we are 2093 04:56:19,100 --> 04:56:20,100 budgeting, that's something we take 2094 04:56:20,100 --> 04:56:21,100 into consideration. 2095 04:56:21,100 --> 04:56:25,801 even in our p1 projections, there is a 2096 04:56:26,100 --> 04:56:29,100 deficit that's identified, in our 2097 04:56:29,100 --> 04:56:30,100 budgeting practices, it is 2098 04:56:30,100 --> 04:56:33,100 consistent we do include it. 2099 04:56:35,100 --> 04:56:39,201 >> and in your experience, does -- how 2100 04:56:40,100 --> 04:56:44,100 does that later then impact how you 2101 04:56:44,100 --> 04:56:46,100 allocate for all your expenditures 2102 04:56:46,100 --> 04:56:48,100 later on, do you end up with a massive 2103 04:56:48,100 --> 04:56:49,100 surplus? 2104 04:56:49,100 --> 04:56:52,100 >> I wouldn't say a massive surplus. 2105 04:56:52,100 --> 04:56:55,601 usually the deficit factor is 1% to 2106 04:56:57,100 --> 04:56:59,100 1.6%, so it's not a huge windfall of 2107 04:56:59,100 --> 04:57:02,100 money at all but it is something we do 2108 04:57:02,100 --> 04:57:04,100 take into consideration. 2109 04:57:04,100 --> 04:57:08,100 >> trustee chung, if it's okay, if we 2110 04:57:08,100 --> 04:57:11,100 can circle back, I want to make space 2111 04:57:11,100 --> 04:57:14,100 for other trustees that might want 2112 04:57:14,100 --> 04:57:15,100 to ask questions. 2113 04:57:15,100 --> 04:57:16,100 any concerns? 2114 04:57:16,100 --> 04:57:18,100 v.p. Zamora? 2115 04:57:21,100 --> 04:57:23,100 >> personally I just wanted to thank 2116 04:57:23,100 --> 04:57:27,100 you for making this easy to understand. 2117 04:57:27,100 --> 04:57:31,801 I mean, I love yulan but this was 2118 04:57:32,100 --> 04:57:35,100 easier for me to follow, I wanted you 2119 04:57:35,100 --> 04:57:36,100 and your team to be aware of that. 2120 04:57:36,100 --> 04:57:39,100 >> thank you, I appreciate that. 2121 04:57:40,100 --> 04:57:42,100 >> trustee martinez? 2122 04:57:43,100 --> 04:57:46,100 >> thank you for the presentation, 2123 04:57:47,100 --> 04:57:48,100 it's very helpful both in the graph 2124 04:57:48,100 --> 04:57:50,100 form and in the oral presentation. 2125 04:57:50,100 --> 04:57:54,100 if we could go to the page, I think 2126 04:57:54,100 --> 04:57:57,100 it's on the pdf, it's page 15, 2127 04:57:57,100 --> 04:57:59,100 assumptions for the multiyear 2128 04:57:59,100 --> 04:58:01,100 projections, there you are. 2129 04:58:01,100 --> 04:58:05,801 at the very bottom, there is a term 2130 04:58:09,100 --> 04:58:11,100 legal that says a million dollars, 750 2131 04:58:11,100 --> 04:58:15,100 thousand dollars, so on and so forth. 2132 04:58:15,100 --> 04:58:18,100 what is included in that line item? 2133 04:58:18,100 --> 04:58:21,601 >> so, mostly that's included in that 2134 04:58:24,100 --> 04:58:25,100 are our expenses if there's any 2135 04:58:25,100 --> 04:58:27,100 contracts we have so we're budgeting 2136 04:58:27,100 --> 04:58:28,100 for that. 2137 04:58:28,100 --> 04:58:30,100 >> one of the latest items on the 2138 04:58:30,100 --> 04:58:33,100 agenda is to approve a contract with a 2139 04:58:33,100 --> 04:58:36,100 law firm and it gives us the rates 2140 04:58:36,100 --> 04:58:39,100 that we would pay but it doesn't tell 2141 04:58:39,100 --> 04:58:42,601 us what our overall obligation would 2142 04:58:43,100 --> 04:58:44,100 be. 2143 04:58:44,100 --> 04:58:46,100 so, the question -- I guess the 2144 04:58:46,100 --> 04:58:48,100 question is this, does this one 2145 04:58:48,100 --> 04:58:50,100 million include that potential cost? 2146 04:58:50,100 --> 04:58:52,100 >> can you address that. 2147 04:58:52,100 --> 04:58:55,100 so, that contract is really at the 2148 04:58:55,100 --> 04:58:58,601 request of the board and constituent 2149 04:58:59,100 --> 04:59:01,100 grouses to expand our pool of 2150 04:59:01,100 --> 04:59:03,100 available law firms to not be 2151 04:59:03,100 --> 04:59:04,100 restricted to just one. 2152 04:59:04,100 --> 04:59:06,000 so, what that contract allows us to do 2153 04:59:06,000 --> 04:59:09,100 is to choose one of their attorneys if 2154 04:59:09,100 --> 04:59:10,100 we have legal issues. 2155 04:59:10,100 --> 04:59:13,100 once we do that, the rates are already 2156 04:59:13,100 --> 04:59:15,100 agreed upon but the total dollar 2157 04:59:15,100 --> 04:59:18,100 amount that we are projecting to spend 2158 04:59:18,100 --> 04:59:20,100 should not exceed that dollar amount 2159 04:59:20,100 --> 04:59:22,100 so, whether we pay it to that firm or 2160 04:59:22,100 --> 04:59:26,100 we pay it to aalrr, our goal is to 2161 04:59:26,100 --> 04:59:28,100 diminish that, to reduce that and that 2162 04:59:28,100 --> 04:59:29,100 additional contract is trying to give 2163 04:59:29,100 --> 04:59:31,100 us a better pool to draw from. 2164 04:59:31,100 --> 04:59:32,100 >> thank you. 2165 04:59:32,100 --> 04:59:34,100 thank you for that explanation, so 2166 04:59:34,100 --> 04:59:38,801 there is a cap on the legal -- 2167 04:59:39,100 --> 04:59:40,100 >> we are keep capping it. 2168 04:59:40,100 --> 04:59:42,401 >> exactly, on legal expenditures. 2169 04:59:43,100 --> 04:59:44,100 does that include in-house counsel or 2170 04:59:44,100 --> 04:59:47,100 is that just for external counsel? 2171 04:59:47,100 --> 04:59:50,100 >> the in-house counsel is salary, 2172 04:59:50,100 --> 04:59:51,100 it's only for external. 2173 04:59:51,100 --> 04:59:53,100 >> okay, thank you. 2174 04:59:53,100 --> 04:59:54,100 >> no problem. 2175 04:59:54,100 --> 04:59:57,100 >> any other questions or comments? 2176 05:00:01,100 --> 05:00:03,100 I see trustee solomon? 2177 05:00:03,100 --> 05:00:06,100 >> yes, I was just figuring out how to 2178 05:00:06,100 --> 05:00:09,100 up bridge my comments from what I plan 2179 05:00:09,100 --> 05:00:12,100 to what I'll do because I have some of 2180 05:00:12,100 --> 05:00:15,100 the same concerns earlier speakers 2181 05:00:16,100 --> 05:00:19,100 have expressed about the state's 2182 05:00:19,100 --> 05:00:22,100 auditor letter and I know of five or 2183 05:00:22,100 --> 05:00:26,201 six years of our projected ending fund 2184 05:00:29,100 --> 05:00:32,601 balances in our adopted budgets being 2185 05:00:33,100 --> 05:00:36,100 from 7.5 million to 22 million dollars 2186 05:00:36,100 --> 05:00:38,100 more than we budgeted for, that's a 2187 05:00:38,100 --> 05:00:42,801 concern I have about accuracy and so I 2188 05:00:44,100 --> 05:00:48,100 do think, you know, in my first year 2189 05:00:48,100 --> 05:00:50,100 on the board, I don't think I could 2190 05:00:50,100 --> 05:00:53,601 have dreamed of having a 10.9% reserve 2191 05:00:57,100 --> 05:00:59,100 which wre going to have in -- 2192 05:00:59,100 --> 05:01:02,100 projected to have in 29-30. 2193 05:01:02,100 --> 05:01:04,100 I didn't think it could get that -- we 2194 05:01:04,100 --> 05:01:07,100 worked hard to build our reserves, but 2195 05:01:07,100 --> 05:01:11,100 I do want to emphasize that we need to 2196 05:01:11,100 --> 05:01:13,100 keep our eyes on the prize. 2197 05:01:13,100 --> 05:01:14,100 we've done that work because some of 2198 05:01:14,100 --> 05:01:17,100 that is in the service of transition 2199 05:01:17,100 --> 05:01:19,100 to the student centered funding 2200 05:01:19,100 --> 05:01:23,201 formula that will come upon us in 2201 05:01:24,100 --> 05:01:25,100 29-30. 2202 05:01:25,100 --> 05:01:29,100 we have to make sure our budget 2203 05:01:29,100 --> 05:01:31,100 projections -- we have to increase 2204 05:01:31,100 --> 05:01:34,100 enrollment by at least 2% each year. 2205 05:01:34,100 --> 05:01:36,100 >> thank you. 2206 05:01:41,100 --> 05:01:44,100 I will adjust a few things, just my 2207 05:01:44,100 --> 05:01:47,100 quick thoughts that I'm having. 2208 05:01:49,100 --> 05:01:51,100 one of the things I was looking at in 2209 05:01:51,100 --> 05:01:54,100 one of the budget documents, I want to 2210 05:01:54,100 --> 05:01:55,100 make sure that's sorted, it's not 2211 05:01:55,100 --> 05:01:58,100 here, but with the free city 2212 05:01:58,100 --> 05:01:59,100 projections, are we projecting it at 2213 05:01:59,100 --> 05:02:04,401 the amount that the city has it at the 2214 05:02:05,100 --> 05:02:08,100 9.3 and not the 6 point something? 2215 05:02:08,100 --> 05:02:10,100 >> we are projecting a 9.3. 2216 05:02:10,100 --> 05:02:11,100 >> okay, great. 2217 05:02:11,100 --> 05:02:15,100 and then I think -- yeah, I think I 2218 05:02:15,100 --> 05:02:18,100 just want to build off of trustee 2219 05:02:18,100 --> 05:02:20,100 solomon's points as well. 2220 05:02:20,100 --> 05:02:22,100 I mean, we have to stay very steady 2221 05:02:22,100 --> 05:02:24,100 for the next few years. 2222 05:02:24,100 --> 05:02:28,801 I think this is painting a very clear 2223 05:02:29,100 --> 05:02:31,100 picture and, you know, I think we're 2224 05:02:31,100 --> 05:02:34,100 going to rely on you all, everyone, I 2225 05:02:34,100 --> 05:02:38,100 think to help us steer this ship and 2226 05:02:38,100 --> 05:02:41,100 figure out how we're going to make 2227 05:02:41,100 --> 05:02:43,100 sure we're sustainable. 2228 05:02:44,100 --> 05:02:47,100 and then I think -- I just keep 2229 05:02:47,100 --> 05:02:49,100 looking at 29-30, that year is giving 2230 05:02:49,100 --> 05:02:51,100 me so much anxiety, I'm going to name 2231 05:02:51,100 --> 05:02:52,100 it. 2232 05:02:52,100 --> 05:02:54,100 we need to think about the parcel tax 2233 05:02:54,100 --> 05:02:56,100 for 2028, we have to think about free 2234 05:02:56,100 --> 05:02:58,100 city ending in 2029, we have to think 2235 05:02:58,100 --> 05:03:00,100 about this that's going to happen 2236 05:03:00,100 --> 05:03:02,100 around that time so I think it's 2237 05:03:02,100 --> 05:03:05,100 really incumbent on all of us to make 2238 05:03:05,100 --> 05:03:07,100 sure we're all staying on top of this. 2239 05:03:07,100 --> 05:03:10,100 I think we all collectively have a 2240 05:03:10,100 --> 05:03:12,100 responsibility to figure out how we 2241 05:03:12,100 --> 05:03:15,100 know this is coming, right, and 2242 05:03:15,100 --> 05:03:17,100 there's different levers everybody's 2243 05:03:17,100 --> 05:03:19,100 pulling, I think the board can play a 2244 05:03:19,100 --> 05:03:22,100 role with the parcel tax and making 2245 05:03:22,100 --> 05:03:25,100 sure we figure that piece out and we 2246 05:03:25,100 --> 05:03:27,100 don't let that blind side the 2247 05:03:27,100 --> 05:03:28,100 institution. 2248 05:03:28,100 --> 05:03:31,601 so, I just really appreciate this 2249 05:03:32,100 --> 05:03:35,100 projection and this conversation and 2250 05:03:37,100 --> 05:03:39,100 it's going to be interesting for the 2251 05:03:39,100 --> 05:03:42,100 next few years but I feel pretty 2252 05:03:42,100 --> 05:03:44,100 confident we can collectively figure 2253 05:03:44,100 --> 05:03:46,100 this out. 2254 05:03:49,100 --> 05:03:53,801 if there are no -- if there's no 2255 05:03:55,100 --> 05:03:58,601 additional comments, I will do another 2256 05:03:59,100 --> 05:04:00,100 round robin, trustee chung, if you 2257 05:04:00,100 --> 05:04:02,100 would like to -- 2258 05:04:02,100 --> 05:04:05,100 >> I'll condense my comments and not 2259 05:04:05,100 --> 05:04:08,601 go into detailed questions, I will 2260 05:04:09,100 --> 05:04:13,100 put it in an e-mail form and bug you 2261 05:04:13,100 --> 05:04:17,201 there, I'm sorry about that in advance. 2262 05:04:18,100 --> 05:04:22,100 and thank you to my colleagues here 2263 05:04:22,100 --> 05:04:26,801 for chairing -- sharing some of -- to 2264 05:04:29,100 --> 05:04:33,100 share the vision for the work we've 2265 05:04:33,100 --> 05:04:36,100 been doing these last few years as to 2266 05:04:36,100 --> 05:04:38,100 whether or not I've agreed to it or 2267 05:04:38,100 --> 05:04:42,801 not, the board has agreed to build up 2268 05:04:46,100 --> 05:04:47,100 the reserves in order to survive in 2269 05:04:47,100 --> 05:04:48,100 this period of time where we are not 2270 05:04:48,100 --> 05:04:50,100 on stiff, this was intentional, and I 2271 05:04:50,100 --> 05:04:53,100 do think that -- and I know vc carter, 2272 05:04:53,100 --> 05:04:56,100 you are joining us, and so it is 2273 05:04:56,100 --> 05:05:00,100 appropriate for you to frame it in 2274 05:05:00,100 --> 05:05:02,100 this lens for how our reserves are 2275 05:05:02,100 --> 05:05:07,100 going to be used up but I also want to 2276 05:05:07,100 --> 05:05:08,100 emphasize just as some of my 2277 05:05:08,100 --> 05:05:10,100 colleagues have said, this was 2278 05:05:10,100 --> 05:05:11,100 intentional, this was the plan. 2279 05:05:11,100 --> 05:05:16,100 we were going to be -- and I think -- 2280 05:05:16,100 --> 05:05:18,100 I often worry sometimes our budget 2281 05:05:18,100 --> 05:05:20,100 language confuses the public because 2282 05:05:20,100 --> 05:05:22,100 when you say we're deficit spend, that 2283 05:05:22,100 --> 05:05:24,100 sounds awful. 2284 05:05:25,100 --> 05:05:29,201 that sounds like -- there's not a 2285 05:05:31,100 --> 05:05:32,100 clear understanding around -- we have 2286 05:05:32,100 --> 05:05:34,100 our reserves in order to do this 2287 05:05:34,100 --> 05:05:36,100 because we weren't going to get any 2288 05:05:36,100 --> 05:05:38,100 additional revenue from the state to a 2289 05:05:38,100 --> 05:05:41,100 significant amount, so -- and I think 2290 05:05:41,100 --> 05:05:43,100 what is missing in this presentation 2291 05:05:43,100 --> 05:05:46,601 though is the framework, we're doing 2292 05:05:47,100 --> 05:05:50,100 this in order for us to eventually 2293 05:05:50,100 --> 05:05:51,100 receive student centered funding. 2294 05:05:51,100 --> 05:05:53,100 that was the whole point, and that 2295 05:05:53,100 --> 05:05:56,100 part of the graph is missing, right. 2296 05:05:56,100 --> 05:05:59,601 I know it's further out, it's 2031 2297 05:06:02,100 --> 05:06:04,100 and on, but I think that's important 2298 05:06:04,100 --> 05:06:07,100 for us to state is that it's not a 2299 05:06:07,100 --> 05:06:11,201 decline, this is a temporary -- this 2300 05:06:12,100 --> 05:06:13,100 was intentional increase in reserves 2301 05:06:13,100 --> 05:06:15,100 for the last few years and then it's 2302 05:06:15,100 --> 05:06:19,100 going to be a slight decline before we 2303 05:06:19,100 --> 05:06:20,100 stabilize the entire institution, that 2304 05:06:20,100 --> 05:06:21,100 was the point. 2305 05:06:21,100 --> 05:06:23,100 >> if I may, I think it's true and 2306 05:06:23,100 --> 05:06:27,201 it's important to rei rate that that 2307 05:06:29,100 --> 05:06:30,100 was the purpose behind this and I 2308 05:06:30,100 --> 05:06:31,100 think that's very important. 2309 05:06:31,100 --> 05:06:32,100 I do also think that projections beyond 2310 05:06:32,100 --> 05:06:34,100 three years are dangerous. 2311 05:06:34,100 --> 05:06:37,100 we tried to do five, so we believe, we 2312 05:06:37,100 --> 05:06:40,100 hope, we are planning for being fully 2313 05:06:40,100 --> 05:06:43,100 benefiting from the scff 29-30, but 2314 05:06:43,100 --> 05:06:45,100 there are a lot of factors that 2315 05:06:45,100 --> 05:06:47,100 contribute to that, so -- and again 2316 05:06:47,100 --> 05:06:50,100 once we do that, we still have to wait 2317 05:06:50,100 --> 05:06:54,100 for the academic year to happen, so we 2318 05:06:54,100 --> 05:06:56,100 did -- you all did and I joined in and 2319 05:06:56,100 --> 05:06:59,100 I agree with this deliberate strategy 2320 05:06:59,100 --> 05:07:01,100 to have enough reserves to get us 2321 05:07:01,100 --> 05:07:03,100 through that but if we don't change a 2322 05:07:03,100 --> 05:07:05,100 lot of other things that we're 2323 05:07:05,100 --> 05:07:07,100 doing, that the point is to try to get 2324 05:07:07,100 --> 05:07:09,100 us to that space and what I'm trying 2325 05:07:09,100 --> 05:07:14,401 to say is four years out or five years 2326 05:07:15,100 --> 05:07:18,100 out, we agree that our projections 2327 05:07:18,100 --> 05:07:20,100 aren't accurate at the end, but we are 2328 05:07:20,100 --> 05:07:21,100 doing our best. 2329 05:07:21,100 --> 05:07:22,100 I agree the board has worked hard with 2330 05:07:22,100 --> 05:07:25,100 the college to ensure we have enough 2331 05:07:25,100 --> 05:07:27,100 reserves, to bridge that gap but we 2332 05:07:27,100 --> 05:07:29,100 still have to be careful because 2333 05:07:29,100 --> 05:07:33,801 otherwise we won't make it to that gap. 2334 05:07:35,100 --> 05:07:38,100 >> and I -- from everything I've seen 2335 05:07:38,100 --> 05:07:39,100 from this board and this current 2336 05:07:39,100 --> 05:07:41,100 administration, I have every faith 2337 05:07:41,100 --> 05:07:43,100 that is happening, what I do sense 2338 05:07:43,100 --> 05:07:47,201 that is often missing is a roll-back 2339 05:07:48,100 --> 05:07:52,801 of innovation and push for us to build 2340 05:07:53,100 --> 05:07:56,100 that enrollment as quickly as -- as 2341 05:07:56,100 --> 05:08:00,100 quickly -- you know, given our taste 2342 05:08:00,100 --> 05:08:03,100 for risk as it comes because I'll 2343 05:08:03,100 --> 05:08:05,100 bring this up because I do think it's 2344 05:08:05,100 --> 05:08:08,100 important and this is why I was so 2345 05:08:08,100 --> 05:08:09,100 nitpicky, besides the specific numbers 2346 05:08:09,100 --> 05:08:12,100 and why I was nitpicky about it. 2347 05:08:12,100 --> 05:08:14,100 every time we've seen projections year 2348 05:08:14,100 --> 05:08:17,100 after year at in district, we've seen 2349 05:08:17,100 --> 05:08:19,100 a significant gap between the actual 2350 05:08:19,100 --> 05:08:22,100 and what is adopted in our budget 2351 05:08:22,100 --> 05:08:25,100 around this time of year. 2352 05:08:25,100 --> 05:08:28,601 it's between three and 10 million in 2353 05:08:29,100 --> 05:08:31,100 difference year after year across mull 2354 05:08:31,100 --> 05:08:32,100 pl administrations. 2355 05:08:32,100 --> 05:08:35,100 it's concerning because we lose out on 2356 05:08:35,100 --> 05:08:36,100 opportunity to invest in our 2357 05:08:36,100 --> 05:08:38,100 enrollment but the other piece to 2358 05:08:38,100 --> 05:08:40,100 this, when you look at the summary and 2359 05:08:40,100 --> 05:08:42,100 as we've had conversations about 2360 05:08:42,100 --> 05:08:44,100 enrollment engagement, the plan we 2361 05:08:44,100 --> 05:08:48,801 received early on when vc yee and dr. 2362 05:08:49,100 --> 05:08:51,100 cooper wilkins were together and 2363 05:08:51,100 --> 05:08:55,100 worked on this plan that took a whole 2364 05:08:55,100 --> 05:08:59,100 year was that the goal -- it was a 2365 05:08:59,100 --> 05:09:02,100 commitment to have an enrollment 2366 05:09:02,100 --> 05:09:05,100 increase by 3% and a reach of 5 but 2367 05:09:05,100 --> 05:09:07,100 even within this budget report, it 2368 05:09:07,100 --> 05:09:09,100 says 2-3 and there's no mention of 5. 2369 05:09:09,100 --> 05:09:12,100 I have seen a roll back of this 2370 05:09:12,100 --> 05:09:16,100 understanding that we can -- that is 2371 05:09:16,100 --> 05:09:19,100 just my statement, I won't ask further 2372 05:09:19,100 --> 05:09:20,100 questions, I needed to make that 2373 05:09:20,100 --> 05:09:21,100 statement. 2374 05:09:21,100 --> 05:09:23,100 >> president chisti, I know this is 2375 05:09:23,100 --> 05:09:25,100 very important, we're about 11 minutes 2376 05:09:25,100 --> 05:09:27,100 over on this item. 2377 05:09:27,100 --> 05:09:29,100 >> okay, thank you. 2378 05:09:29,100 --> 05:09:30,100 >> you're welcome. 2379 05:09:30,100 --> 05:09:32,401 >> trustee ferguson, trustee mccarty 2380 05:09:33,100 --> 05:09:34,100 and student trustee wong. 2381 05:09:34,100 --> 05:09:38,100 >> I will try to make it brief, I want 2382 05:09:38,100 --> 05:09:41,100 to say thank you, I know you're in 2383 05:09:41,100 --> 05:09:42,100 what, month two, one? 2384 05:09:42,100 --> 05:09:45,100 >> I think I'm in month two. 2385 05:09:45,100 --> 05:09:47,100 >> yeah, I am. 2386 05:09:47,100 --> 05:09:50,601 >> thank you for hitting the ground 2387 05:09:52,100 --> 05:09:56,801 running and we all know that there are 2388 05:09:57,100 --> 05:09:59,100 big challenges at every community 2389 05:09:59,100 --> 05:10:02,100 college and this one, so thank you for 2390 05:10:02,100 --> 05:10:03,100 jumping right on in. 2391 05:10:03,100 --> 05:10:05,100 I think since joining this board, I 2392 05:10:05,100 --> 05:10:09,100 feel like every single meet, we have 2393 05:10:09,100 --> 05:10:10,100 centered ourselves around growing 2394 05:10:10,100 --> 05:10:12,100 enrollment and the understanding that 2395 05:10:12,100 --> 05:10:15,100 we must grow our enrollment and that 2396 05:10:15,100 --> 05:10:16,100 like especially other urban community 2397 05:10:16,100 --> 05:10:18,100 colleges in the stay, we are facing 2398 05:10:18,100 --> 05:10:22,201 challenges in trying to do that and 2399 05:10:23,100 --> 05:10:27,100 I am happy that is something we are 2400 05:10:27,100 --> 05:10:29,100 constantly focused on that. 2401 05:10:29,100 --> 05:10:32,100 deficit spending is scary, it is very 2402 05:10:32,100 --> 05:10:35,100 scary and there are realities that we 2403 05:10:35,100 --> 05:10:37,100 have to face. 2404 05:10:37,100 --> 05:10:38,100 I understand that building the 2405 05:10:38,100 --> 05:10:40,100 reserves is the only reason why we 2406 05:10:40,100 --> 05:10:42,100 hopefully won't be taken over by the 2407 05:10:42,100 --> 05:10:46,100 state and I am grateful as a newer 2408 05:10:46,100 --> 05:10:47,100 trustee to my colleagues who made 2409 05:10:47,100 --> 05:10:49,100 decisions before I joined the board 2410 05:10:49,100 --> 05:10:51,100 that I think were the right decisions 2411 05:10:51,100 --> 05:10:54,100 to make sure that we were doing what 2412 05:10:54,100 --> 05:10:56,100 was financially responsible so in a 2413 05:10:56,100 --> 05:10:58,100 moment like right now and in the 2414 05:10:58,100 --> 05:11:01,100 future where hopefully we'll look 2415 05:11:01,100 --> 05:11:03,100 rosier but we also know we have some 2416 05:11:03,100 --> 05:11:04,100 challenges that are anticipated in 2417 05:11:04,100 --> 05:11:08,100 front of us, I am grail we will have 2418 05:11:08,100 --> 05:11:09,100 some flexibility for spending there, 2419 05:11:09,100 --> 05:11:13,801 so I wanted to say all that, thank 2420 05:11:14,100 --> 05:11:16,100 you, this is not rainbows all around 2421 05:11:16,100 --> 05:11:19,100 and it's what we have to work with 2422 05:11:19,100 --> 05:11:21,100 and I hope we can continue to come 2423 05:11:21,100 --> 05:11:23,100 together to focus on the things we say 2424 05:11:23,100 --> 05:11:26,100 we're focusing on is growing our 2425 05:11:26,100 --> 05:11:28,100 enrollment and getting a more growing 2426 05:11:28,100 --> 05:11:29,100 and stable budget. 2427 05:11:29,100 --> 05:11:31,100 >> okay, thank you, trustee mccarty? 2428 05:11:31,100 --> 05:11:33,100 >> thank you, trustee ferguson, I will 2429 05:11:33,100 --> 05:11:36,100 add in on a slightly different topic. 2430 05:11:36,100 --> 05:11:38,100 I just -- first, thank you for the 2431 05:11:38,100 --> 05:11:41,100 present takes, I super appreciate it 2432 05:11:41,100 --> 05:11:43,100 and welcome to month two here. 2433 05:11:43,100 --> 05:11:46,100 I think maybe a lot of what you're 2434 05:11:46,100 --> 05:11:48,100 hearing from my colleague, trustee 2435 05:11:48,100 --> 05:11:50,100 chung, and some of the public 2436 05:11:50,100 --> 05:11:54,201 comments, I think there's a lack of 2437 05:11:55,100 --> 05:11:58,601 trust in financials, and vc ligoso 2438 05:11:59,100 --> 05:12:04,100 when he was here made a lot of headway 2439 05:12:04,100 --> 05:12:05,100 about unwinding that and making things 2440 05:12:05,100 --> 05:12:06,100 clearer and making things more 2441 05:12:06,100 --> 05:12:08,100 accessible and making sure we're 2442 05:12:08,100 --> 05:12:10,100 billing things from the right funds and 2443 05:12:10,100 --> 05:12:13,100 trying to do a lot of lay that ground 2444 05:12:13,100 --> 05:12:14,100 work. 2445 05:12:14,100 --> 05:12:17,100 before he came, there was this long 2446 05:12:17,100 --> 05:12:19,100 history of misrepresenting numbers and 2447 05:12:19,100 --> 05:12:23,100 that what came and what came out from 2448 05:12:23,100 --> 05:12:24,100 budgets never aligned, aft has a 2449 05:12:24,100 --> 05:12:26,100 great document that tracks that, 2450 05:12:26,100 --> 05:12:28,100 tracks how the projections have been 2451 05:12:28,100 --> 05:12:29,100 historically off so I think that's 2452 05:12:29,100 --> 05:12:33,100 part of maybe what you're hearing is 2453 05:12:33,100 --> 05:12:35,100 that larger thing and I want so say 2454 05:12:35,100 --> 05:12:37,100 that's not a reflection on you, please 2455 05:12:37,100 --> 05:12:38,100 don't take that personally, we 2456 05:12:38,100 --> 05:12:41,100 have a lot of trust issues, everyone's 2457 05:12:41,100 --> 05:12:43,100 working on it and it's one of the 2458 05:12:43,100 --> 05:12:46,100 things I think vc ligoso did well, he 2459 05:12:46,100 --> 05:12:48,100 would flag, hey, I said this is what 2460 05:12:48,100 --> 05:12:50,100 the surplus was going to be but I 2461 05:12:50,100 --> 05:12:52,100 think we might get some extra money 2462 05:12:52,100 --> 05:12:54,100 over here, that number's probably 2463 05:12:54,100 --> 05:12:58,100 going to change so he was transparent 2464 05:12:58,100 --> 05:13:01,100 about what was happening last year, so 2465 05:13:01,100 --> 05:13:05,100 I will share that as an example of 2466 05:13:05,100 --> 05:13:07,100 what your predecessor did. 2467 05:13:07,100 --> 05:13:09,100 >> thank you, noted. 2468 05:13:10,100 --> 05:13:11,100 >> student trustee wong? 2469 05:13:11,100 --> 05:13:14,100 >> I was wondering what the cola meant 2470 05:13:14,100 --> 05:13:17,100 and then in that come lum, why the 2471 05:13:17,100 --> 05:13:19,100 adopted budget for this year is a 2472 05:13:19,100 --> 05:13:22,100 whole percent higher than the 2473 05:13:22,100 --> 05:13:24,100 projected of next year's and then so 2474 05:13:24,100 --> 05:13:25,100 on. 2475 05:13:25,100 --> 05:13:27,100 >> sure, cola is our cost of living 2476 05:13:27,100 --> 05:13:29,100 increase, so that's basically coming 2477 05:13:29,100 --> 05:13:31,100 down from the state, tells us how much 2478 05:13:31,100 --> 05:13:32,100 more we're going to receive in 2479 05:13:32,100 --> 05:13:35,601 revenue, so again that cola is 4.31% 2480 05:13:36,100 --> 05:13:39,100 in 26-27 but since we're a district 2481 05:13:39,100 --> 05:13:41,100 that's in hold harmless, we don't get 2482 05:13:41,100 --> 05:13:43,100 to take advantage of it all the time, 2483 05:13:43,100 --> 05:13:45,100 but in certain areas we do, so we keep 2484 05:13:45,100 --> 05:13:47,100 track on the historical side of it. 2485 05:13:47,100 --> 05:13:50,100 and then you stated the extra 1%, 2486 05:13:50,100 --> 05:13:52,100 where was it? 2487 05:13:53,100 --> 05:13:54,100 >> [inaudible] 2488 05:13:54,100 --> 05:13:58,100 >> just be sure to turn on your mic.. 2489 05:13:58,100 --> 05:14:01,100 >> for this year, it's at 4.31%, next 2490 05:14:01,100 --> 05:14:03,100 year's projected is 3.06. 2491 05:14:05,100 --> 05:14:07,100 >> 4.31% which was approved and 2492 05:14:07,100 --> 05:14:09,100 received by the state. 2493 05:14:09,100 --> 05:14:10,100 we're projecting over the next few 2494 05:14:10,100 --> 05:14:12,100 years, it can be approximately 3% but 2495 05:14:12,100 --> 05:14:15,100 again that can change due to whatever 2496 05:14:15,100 --> 05:14:17,100 the state governors or our economy is 2497 05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:19,100 doing here in california, yeah. 2498 05:14:19,100 --> 05:14:20,100 >> thank you. 2499 05:14:20,100 --> 05:14:21,100 >> of course. 2500 05:14:21,100 --> 05:14:23,100 >> okay. 2501 05:14:28,100 --> 05:14:30,100 seeing no further discussion on this 2502 05:14:30,100 --> 05:14:34,100 item, I'm going to go ahead and 2503 05:14:34,100 --> 05:14:35,100 conclude discussion. 2504 05:14:35,100 --> 05:14:38,100 again, we are going to be adopting 2505 05:14:38,100 --> 05:14:40,100 this at the next meeting which we'll 2506 05:14:40,100 --> 05:14:43,601 have to take a vote on. 2507 05:14:45,100 --> 05:14:48,100 discussion on this item is now closed. 2508 05:14:48,100 --> 05:14:51,100 let's see, where are we? 2509 05:14:51,100 --> 05:14:53,100 if you could please call the next item. 2510 05:14:53,100 --> 05:14:56,601 >> of course, this is item 9, open 2511 05:14:57,100 --> 05:14:59,100 session, action items, 9a is the 2512 05:14:59,100 --> 05:15:01,100 resolution authorizing 2513 05:15:03,100 --> 05:15:04,100 employee layoffs due to a lack of 2514 05:15:04,100 --> 05:15:07,100 work of the human resources operations 2515 05:15:07,100 --> 05:15:10,601 team to support a generalist survey 2516 05:15:12,100 --> 05:15:13,100 delivery model. 2517 05:15:13,100 --> 05:15:15,100 >> this is being pulled from the 2518 05:15:15,100 --> 05:15:18,100 agenda and will appear at the next 2519 05:15:18,100 --> 05:15:20,100 regularly scheduled board meeting. 2520 05:15:20,100 --> 05:15:22,100 let's keep moving. 2521 05:15:22,100 --> 05:15:25,100 >> 9b is entitled approval of the 2522 05:15:25,100 --> 05:15:28,601 board of trustee meeting minutes, may 2523 05:15:30,100 --> 05:15:33,100 7, may 28, june 5, june 11, june 25th 2524 05:15:36,100 --> 05:15:38,100 and august 13th meetings. 2525 05:15:38,100 --> 05:15:40,100 >> we are calling these meeting 2526 05:15:40,100 --> 05:15:41,100 minutes together. 2527 05:15:41,100 --> 05:15:43,100 before I open this up for discussion 2528 05:15:43,100 --> 05:15:47,201 or entertain a motion, is there any 2529 05:15:49,100 --> 05:15:50,100 public comment on all of the meeting 2530 05:15:50,100 --> 05:15:51,100 minutes here? 2531 05:15:51,100 --> 05:15:54,100 >> there is no public comment on item 2532 05:15:54,100 --> 05:15:55,100 9b. 2533 05:15:55,100 --> 05:15:57,100 >> alright. 2534 05:15:57,100 --> 05:16:00,601 colleagues, is there a motion to 2535 05:16:01,100 --> 05:16:04,100 approve the meeting minutes from may 2536 05:16:04,100 --> 05:16:06,401 7, may 28, june 5, june 11, june 25, 2537 05:16:08,100 --> 05:16:09,100 august 13? 2538 05:16:09,100 --> 05:16:10,100 >> so moved. 2539 05:16:10,100 --> 05:16:11,100 >> moved by v.p. Zamora. 2540 05:16:11,100 --> 05:16:13,100 >> second. 2541 05:16:17,100 --> 05:16:18,100 >> seconded by trustee ferguson. 2542 05:16:18,100 --> 05:16:20,100 any discussion? 2543 05:16:24,100 --> 05:16:25,100 alright. 2544 05:16:25,100 --> 05:16:26,100 >> I did want to say something before 2545 05:16:26,100 --> 05:16:27,100 we vote. 2546 05:16:27,100 --> 05:16:28,100 >> I am going to approve all of them 2547 05:16:28,100 --> 05:16:31,601 but in full transparency, I'm going 2548 05:16:33,100 --> 05:16:34,100 reserve the right to vote on this 2549 05:16:34,100 --> 05:16:36,100 since I will be voting on the 2550 05:16:36,100 --> 05:16:38,100 prevailing side because the minutes 2551 05:16:38,100 --> 05:16:40,100 are very long, I tried very hard to 2552 05:16:40,100 --> 05:16:41,100 get through all of them and I didn't, 2553 05:16:41,100 --> 05:16:45,100 so I think they're okay but I just 2554 05:16:45,100 --> 05:16:46,100 wanted -- I didn't want that kind of 2555 05:16:46,100 --> 05:16:47,100 surprise. 2556 05:16:47,100 --> 05:16:48,100 >> okay. 2557 05:16:48,100 --> 05:16:50,100 say that one more time. 2558 05:16:50,100 --> 05:16:53,100 >> I'm going to vote yes to approve 2559 05:16:53,100 --> 05:16:54,100 the minutes. 2560 05:16:54,100 --> 05:16:55,100 >> okay, got it. 2561 05:16:55,100 --> 05:16:57,100 >> I'm going to give myself a little 2562 05:16:57,100 --> 05:17:00,100 time to see if we have any concerns of 2563 05:17:00,100 --> 05:17:02,100 the ones we vote on, if you vote on 2564 05:17:02,100 --> 05:17:04,100 the prevailing side, you can bring it 2565 05:17:04,100 --> 05:17:07,100 back to the floor and I'll let you 2566 05:17:07,100 --> 05:17:08,100 know ahead of time. 2567 05:17:08,100 --> 05:17:09,100 >> okay, sounds good. 2568 05:17:09,100 --> 05:17:11,100 >> okay. 2569 05:17:13,100 --> 05:17:15,100 >> so, let's go ahead and do a roll 2570 05:17:15,100 --> 05:17:17,100 call on this. 2571 05:17:17,100 --> 05:17:18,100 >> of course. 2572 05:17:18,100 --> 05:17:20,100 student trustee wong? 2573 05:17:20,100 --> 05:17:21,100 >> aye. 2574 05:17:21,100 --> 05:17:22,100 >> president chisti? 2575 05:17:22,100 --> 05:17:23,100 >> aye. 2576 05:17:23,100 --> 05:17:24,100 >> trustee chung? 2577 05:17:24,100 --> 05:17:25,100 >> aye. 2578 05:17:25,100 --> 05:17:26,100 >> trustee ferguson? 2579 05:17:26,100 --> 05:17:27,100 >> aye. 2580 05:17:27,100 --> 05:17:28,100 >> trustee martinez? 2581 05:17:28,100 --> 05:17:29,100 >> yes. 2582 05:17:29,100 --> 05:17:30,100 >> trustee mccarty? 2583 05:17:30,100 --> 05:17:31,100 >> aye. 2584 05:17:31,100 --> 05:17:32,100 >> trustee solomon? 2585 05:17:32,100 --> 05:17:33,100 >> aye. 2586 05:17:33,100 --> 05:17:34,100 >> v.p. Zamora? 2587 05:17:34,100 --> 05:17:35,100 >> aye. 2588 05:17:35,100 --> 05:17:36,100 >> item passes. 2589 05:17:36,100 --> 05:17:38,100 >> these meeting minutes are approved. 2590 05:17:38,100 --> 05:17:40,100 I'm going to gavel, yay, sorry. 2591 05:17:40,100 --> 05:17:43,601 next item which is consideration and 2592 05:17:44,100 --> 05:17:47,100 approval -- sorry, can you please call 2593 05:17:47,100 --> 05:17:48,100 it. 2594 05:17:48,100 --> 05:17:49,100 >> 9c is consideration and approval to 2595 05:17:49,100 --> 05:17:53,100 call a special meeting of the board of 2596 05:17:53,100 --> 05:17:55,100 trustees on the september 10, 2026 for 2597 05:17:55,100 --> 05:17:58,100 approval of the fiscal 2026-2027 2598 05:17:58,100 --> 05:17:59,100 budget. 2599 05:17:59,100 --> 05:18:01,100 >> this is what I was referencing, and 2600 05:18:01,100 --> 05:18:03,100 so we have this item also agendized 2601 05:18:03,100 --> 05:18:06,100 for members of the public so they're 2602 05:18:06,100 --> 05:18:09,100 aware that we're going to be having 2603 05:18:09,100 --> 05:18:12,100 this special meeting and we wanted to 2604 05:18:12,100 --> 05:18:15,100 provide advanced notice of this 2605 05:18:15,100 --> 05:18:16,100 meeting. 2606 05:18:16,100 --> 05:18:19,100 before I ask for a motion on this, do 2607 05:18:19,100 --> 05:18:21,100 we have any public comment? 2608 05:18:21,100 --> 05:18:25,100 >> there is no public comment on 9c. 2609 05:18:25,100 --> 05:18:27,100 >> alright, any discussion or 2610 05:18:27,100 --> 05:18:28,100 chancellor, if there's anything you 2611 05:18:28,100 --> 05:18:30,100 would like to reiterate for clarity -- 2612 05:18:30,100 --> 05:18:32,100 >> I had a question, obviously we're 2613 05:18:32,100 --> 05:18:35,100 doing this so we can be able to vote 2614 05:18:35,100 --> 05:18:38,100 on the 10th before the september 15th 2615 05:18:38,100 --> 05:18:39,100 deadline. 2616 05:18:39,100 --> 05:18:42,100 my question is the next meeting that 2617 05:18:42,100 --> 05:18:44,100 is traditionally our business meeting, 2618 05:18:44,100 --> 05:18:47,601 will that remain a business meeting? 2619 05:18:48,100 --> 05:18:49,100 >> yes, sorry. 2620 05:18:49,100 --> 05:18:52,601 >> yes, so the intention is to 2621 05:18:53,100 --> 05:18:56,100 open the special meeting, we'll vote 2622 05:18:56,100 --> 05:18:58,100 on the budget, then close that meeting 2623 05:18:58,100 --> 05:19:00,100 and open a committee of the whole and 2624 05:19:00,100 --> 05:19:01,100 then the business meeting will still 2625 05:19:01,100 --> 05:19:02,100 be -- 2626 05:19:02,100 --> 05:19:03,100 >> thank you. 2627 05:19:03,100 --> 05:19:04,100 >> alright. 2628 05:19:04,100 --> 05:19:08,801 is there a motion to call a special 2629 05:19:14,100 --> 05:19:15,100 meeting -- 2630 05:19:15,100 --> 05:19:16,100 >> so moved. 2631 05:19:16,100 --> 05:19:17,100 >> second. 2632 05:19:17,100 --> 05:19:18,100 >> okay. 2633 05:19:18,100 --> 05:19:21,100 motion made by trustee solomon, 2634 05:19:22,100 --> 05:19:24,401 seconded by trustee mccarty. 2635 05:19:25,100 --> 05:19:28,100 seeing no further discussion -- 2636 05:19:28,100 --> 05:19:31,100 >> sorry, president chisti, I have a 2637 05:19:31,100 --> 05:19:33,100 question, typically with special meet, 2638 05:19:33,100 --> 05:19:35,100 we only require the 24 hour 2639 05:19:35,100 --> 05:19:37,100 requirement around the agenda, though 2640 05:19:37,100 --> 05:19:40,100 if we are voting on the -- 2641 05:19:40,100 --> 05:19:42,100 particularly if the intention is on 2642 05:19:42,100 --> 05:19:45,100 the budget, if -- I don't know if 2643 05:19:45,100 --> 05:19:49,100 there's some way for me to request -- 2644 05:19:49,100 --> 05:19:51,100 >> we will do it much earlier than 2645 05:19:51,100 --> 05:19:52,100 that. 2646 05:19:52,100 --> 05:19:53,100 >> thank you. 2647 05:19:53,100 --> 05:19:55,100 >> yes, we're going to do it before 2648 05:19:55,100 --> 05:19:58,100 the 24 hours so members of the public 2649 05:19:58,100 --> 05:19:59,100 can view -- yes? 2650 05:19:59,100 --> 05:20:02,100 >> my understanding based on vc carter 2651 05:20:02,100 --> 05:20:05,100 is that september 1 is around when 2652 05:20:05,100 --> 05:20:07,401 we'll see the book. 2653 05:20:08,100 --> 05:20:10,100 >> alright. 2654 05:20:10,100 --> 05:20:13,100 awesome, seeing no further discussion, 2655 05:20:13,100 --> 05:20:16,100 if there's no objection, I'm going to 2656 05:20:16,100 --> 05:20:18,100 take that by acclimation, this is 2657 05:20:18,100 --> 05:20:20,100 approved for the board to have a 2658 05:20:20,100 --> 05:20:22,401 special meeting on september 10, 2026 2659 05:20:23,100 --> 05:20:26,100 for the purpose of considering the 2660 05:20:26,100 --> 05:20:29,100 fiscal year 26-27 budget passage. 2661 05:20:30,100 --> 05:20:31,100 alright. 2662 05:20:31,100 --> 05:20:36,100 I'm going to now -- now we are at 2663 05:20:36,100 --> 05:20:37,100 consent. 2664 05:20:37,100 --> 05:20:41,100 mr. Shemansky, if we could please call 2665 05:20:41,100 --> 05:20:42,100 the consent agenda. 2666 05:20:42,100 --> 05:20:46,801 >> this is items 10-16, 10a to f is 2667 05:20:47,100 --> 05:20:50,601 consent action items for sfccd travel 2668 05:20:53,100 --> 05:20:54,100 requests. 2669 05:20:54,100 --> 05:20:56,100 11a through j is consent action items 2670 05:20:56,100 --> 05:20:59,100 for academic and institutional affairs 2671 05:20:59,100 --> 05:21:03,100 division, 12a to b is for celebratory 2672 05:21:03,100 --> 05:21:05,100 resolutions, 13a is also a consent 2673 05:21:05,100 --> 05:21:07,100 action item from general counsel, 14a 2674 05:21:07,100 --> 05:21:11,100 to b is consent action items for 2675 05:21:11,100 --> 05:21:13,100 finance and administration, 15a to I 2676 05:21:13,100 --> 05:21:16,601 is consent action items facilities and 2677 05:21:18,100 --> 05:21:20,100 buildings/grounds and lastly is 16a to 2678 05:21:20,100 --> 05:21:22,100 d, consent action items from human 2679 05:21:22,100 --> 05:21:23,100 resources. 2680 05:21:23,100 --> 05:21:25,100 >> okay. 2681 05:21:26,100 --> 05:21:28,100 so, I am going to take public comment 2682 05:21:28,100 --> 05:21:31,601 on the entire consent agenda, the 2683 05:21:34,100 --> 05:21:35,100 first question I have, I'm going to 2684 05:21:35,100 --> 05:21:36,100 have two questions for trustees, the 2685 05:21:36,100 --> 05:21:38,100 first question is if there is an item 2686 05:21:38,100 --> 05:21:41,100 that you would like to pull for a 2687 05:21:41,100 --> 05:21:42,100 separate vote, any tenses here that 2688 05:21:42,100 --> 05:21:45,100 you would like to pull for a separate 2689 05:21:45,100 --> 05:21:46,100 vote. 2690 05:21:46,100 --> 05:21:49,100 then the next question I will is a 2691 05:21:49,100 --> 05:21:51,100 separate discussion, the first one, a 2692 05:21:51,100 --> 05:21:52,100 separate vote. 2693 05:21:52,100 --> 05:21:54,100 trustee solomon? 2694 05:21:56,100 --> 05:21:59,100 >> thank you, I would like to pull 13a 2695 05:21:59,100 --> 05:22:00,100 and 16a. 2696 05:22:00,100 --> 05:22:02,401 >> okay, 13 a and 16a. 2697 05:22:12,100 --> 05:22:15,601 that's for a separate vote, okay. 2698 05:22:18,100 --> 05:22:20,100 trustee martinez? 2699 05:22:24,100 --> 05:22:27,100 >> for separate discussion only, 12a. 2700 05:22:28,100 --> 05:22:30,401 >> 12a, it's discussion only. 2701 05:22:34,100 --> 05:22:35,100 okay, anything else? 2702 05:22:35,100 --> 05:22:37,100 I have one. 2703 05:22:37,100 --> 05:22:42,100 and I'm sorry, I need to -- yeah, it's 2704 05:22:42,100 --> 05:22:44,100 the facilities one, whichever one has 2705 05:22:44,100 --> 05:22:45,100 evans on it, 15? 2706 05:22:45,100 --> 05:22:47,100 >> that would be 15. 2707 05:22:47,100 --> 05:22:49,100 >> 15 a I think. 2708 05:22:53,100 --> 05:22:54,100 was it 15a? 2709 05:22:54,100 --> 05:22:56,100 >> no. 2710 05:22:56,100 --> 05:22:57,100 >> 15 something. 2711 05:22:57,100 --> 05:22:59,100 yeah, 15h. 2712 05:23:04,100 --> 05:23:07,100 15h for discussion purposes only. 2713 05:23:08,100 --> 05:23:09,100 okay. 2714 05:23:09,100 --> 05:23:13,801 we are going to take public comment on 2715 05:23:14,100 --> 05:23:17,100 the entire consent agenda including 2716 05:23:18,100 --> 05:23:21,100 the items that are pulled for a 2717 05:23:21,100 --> 05:23:22,100 separate vote or discussion. 2718 05:23:22,100 --> 05:23:24,100 this is public comment on the entire 2719 05:23:24,100 --> 05:23:26,100 consent agenda, any public comment? 2720 05:23:26,100 --> 05:23:29,601 >> there is, there's one, that's lydia 2721 05:23:30,100 --> 05:23:32,100 hernandez, she's requesting to speak 2722 05:23:32,100 --> 05:23:34,100 on 11 ark, 11d and 12a. 2723 05:23:34,100 --> 05:23:36,100 >> alright. 2724 05:23:41,100 --> 05:23:44,100 >> so, first I would like you to 2725 05:23:44,100 --> 05:23:47,601 consider that if there's items that 2726 05:23:48,100 --> 05:23:49,100 are being pulled, give the public an 2727 05:23:49,100 --> 05:23:51,100 opportunity to speak on these items. 2728 05:23:51,100 --> 05:23:53,100 I'm not saying this is what's 2729 05:23:53,100 --> 05:23:57,801 happening but this could be used as a 2730 05:23:58,100 --> 05:24:01,601 method of silencing when there's not 2731 05:24:02,100 --> 05:24:04,100 an opportunity to speak and there's 2732 05:24:04,100 --> 05:24:06,100 such a long list of these items and I 2733 05:24:06,100 --> 05:24:08,100 did have a few things. 2734 05:24:08,100 --> 05:24:10,100 so, I have a resolution that I would 2735 05:24:10,100 --> 05:24:11,100 like to read. 2736 05:24:11,100 --> 05:24:15,201 it is in support of designating the 2737 05:24:17,100 --> 05:24:20,601 flex day as indigenous peoples' day, 2738 05:24:22,100 --> 05:24:26,100 where as it occupies the land of the 2739 05:24:26,100 --> 05:24:28,100 ohlone people, to honor the original 2740 05:24:28,100 --> 05:24:30,100 stewards of this land and whereas the 2741 05:24:30,100 --> 05:24:33,601 city and county of san francisco 2742 05:24:34,100 --> 05:24:36,401 established indigenous peoples into 2743 05:24:39,100 --> 05:24:40,100 recognize the historical experiences, 2744 05:24:40,100 --> 05:24:41,100 trauma and contributions of native 2745 05:24:41,100 --> 05:24:43,100 peoples and whereas dedicated time for 2746 05:24:43,100 --> 05:24:45,100 faculty and staff to engage with 2747 05:24:45,100 --> 05:24:47,100 indigenous history is essential for 2748 05:24:47,100 --> 05:24:50,100 advancing the cultural humility and 2749 05:24:51,100 --> 05:24:52,100 institutional support necessary for 2750 05:24:52,100 --> 05:24:54,100 indigenous students to thrive, 2751 05:24:54,100 --> 05:24:57,100 therefore be it resolved the board of 2752 05:24:57,100 --> 05:25:01,201 trustees amend the city college of san 2753 05:25:02,100 --> 05:25:05,601 francisco calendar to have -- to 2754 05:25:06,100 --> 05:25:08,100 cultural humility historical truth and 2755 05:25:08,100 --> 05:25:10,100 be it further resolve it is academic 2756 05:25:10,100 --> 05:25:12,401 senate requested to explore 2757 05:25:13,100 --> 05:25:15,100 professional development programming 2758 05:25:16,100 --> 05:25:18,100 focused on indigenous sovereignty, 2759 05:25:18,100 --> 05:25:21,100 ramaytush ohlone people and having the 2760 05:25:21,100 --> 05:25:22,100 support for indigenous students. 2761 05:25:22,100 --> 05:25:25,100 and I also would like to say that we 2762 05:25:25,100 --> 05:25:29,100 are also in -- there's a month for 2763 05:25:29,100 --> 05:25:33,201 hispanic heritage month and if we are 2764 05:25:34,100 --> 05:25:36,100 truly being -- honoring and 2765 05:25:36,100 --> 05:25:37,100 celebrating, again, we need to move 2766 05:25:37,100 --> 05:25:40,100 past just words, we need to move past 2767 05:25:40,100 --> 05:25:44,100 plans and we need to actually respect 2768 05:25:44,100 --> 05:25:48,801 and try to assist and try to respect 2769 05:25:50,100 --> 05:25:52,100 the contributions that hispanic people 2770 05:25:52,100 --> 05:25:55,100 have made for this city and for this 2771 05:25:55,100 --> 05:25:56,100 country and for this college, thank 2772 05:25:56,100 --> 05:25:57,100 you. 2773 05:25:57,100 --> 05:25:59,100 >> thank you, lydia. 2774 05:25:59,100 --> 05:26:00,100 president chisti, that concludes 2775 05:26:00,100 --> 05:26:01,100 public comment. 2776 05:26:01,100 --> 05:26:02,100 >> thank you so much, public comment 2777 05:26:02,100 --> 05:26:06,201 on the consent agenda is now closed. 2778 05:26:07,100 --> 05:26:12,100 I am going to -- we are going to go 2779 05:26:12,100 --> 05:26:15,100 ahead and have discussion on the items 2780 05:26:15,100 --> 05:26:17,100 that were pulled for discussion and 2781 05:26:17,100 --> 05:26:21,100 then we will have a motion to vote on 2782 05:26:21,100 --> 05:26:24,100 all of those items and then we will 2783 05:26:24,100 --> 05:26:26,100 take the two separate items that were 2784 05:26:26,100 --> 05:26:29,100 pulled by trustee solomon for a 2785 05:26:29,100 --> 05:26:32,100 separate vote, 13a and 16a, and we 2786 05:26:32,100 --> 05:26:33,100 will do separate votes on that. 2787 05:26:33,100 --> 05:26:35,100 so, let's go ahead and begin 2788 05:26:35,100 --> 05:26:37,100 discussion on the items that were 2789 05:26:37,100 --> 05:26:41,201 pulled in order which was I believe 2790 05:26:42,100 --> 05:26:44,100 12a. 2791 05:26:44,100 --> 05:26:47,100 >> thank you, I asked to have this 2792 05:26:47,100 --> 05:26:51,100 pulled simply because I wanted to make 2793 05:26:51,100 --> 05:26:54,601 sure we understand the significance of 2794 05:26:55,100 --> 05:26:56,100 this particular resolution. 2795 05:26:56,100 --> 05:26:59,100 when I was first on the board, I wrote 2796 05:26:59,100 --> 05:27:03,100 a resolution very similar to this and 2797 05:27:03,100 --> 05:27:06,601 noted two people in particular, jose 2798 05:27:09,100 --> 05:27:13,100 dejesus who was or last latino mayor. 2799 05:27:13,100 --> 05:27:15,100 a long time, isn't it, given the 2800 05:27:15,100 --> 05:27:19,201 population of this city, and juana who 2801 05:27:22,100 --> 05:27:24,100 was a founding mother of san 2802 05:27:24,100 --> 05:27:27,100 francisco, she's also recognized as 2803 05:27:28,100 --> 05:27:29,100 someone who owned the land which is 2804 05:27:29,100 --> 05:27:32,100 now north beach and land all the way 2805 05:27:32,100 --> 05:27:35,100 to palo alto and of course that land 2806 05:27:35,100 --> 05:27:38,100 was lost when other settlers came in, 2807 05:27:38,100 --> 05:27:42,201 so that in particular I wanted to 2808 05:27:43,100 --> 05:27:46,100 notice and finally in this particular 2809 05:27:46,100 --> 05:27:49,601 resolution, we recognize the folks who 2810 05:27:51,100 --> 05:27:54,100 -- the latinos and latinas who have 2811 05:27:54,100 --> 05:27:58,100 served on this board and it took until 2812 05:27:58,100 --> 05:28:02,100 1980 to elect a latino to the board. 2813 05:28:02,100 --> 05:28:06,801 and I think this is the first time 2814 05:28:07,100 --> 05:28:09,100 when vice-president zamora was elected 2815 05:28:09,100 --> 05:28:11,100 that there have been two of us on the 2816 05:28:11,100 --> 05:28:14,100 board and I think that that's 2817 05:28:14,100 --> 05:28:16,100 significant given the size of the 2818 05:28:16,100 --> 05:28:19,100 student population here in san 2819 05:28:21,100 --> 05:28:22,100 francisco. 2820 05:28:22,100 --> 05:28:25,601 so, colejio was the first time 2821 05:28:31,100 --> 05:28:34,601 there was credit classless offered and 2822 05:28:35,100 --> 05:28:37,100 that was a bridge to offer education, 2823 05:28:37,100 --> 05:28:39,100 the idea was students would start 2824 05:28:39,100 --> 05:28:41,100 taking the classes in the mission 2825 05:28:41,100 --> 05:28:43,100 district, they would feel very 2826 05:28:43,100 --> 05:28:45,100 welcomed as city college students and 2827 05:28:45,100 --> 05:28:49,100 then they would come here to the ocean 2828 05:28:49,100 --> 05:28:53,801 campus and this also -- I don't know, 2829 05:28:55,100 --> 05:28:58,601 dr. El portio is being recognized, 2830 05:29:00,100 --> 05:29:02,100 mission campus has always had healthy 2831 05:29:02,100 --> 05:29:04,100 enrollment and I hope it continues to 2832 05:29:04,100 --> 05:29:05,100 have that. 2833 05:29:05,100 --> 05:29:07,100 I'll add one other comment about -- 2834 05:29:07,100 --> 05:29:09,100 and I know I did not pull this one, 2835 05:29:09,100 --> 05:29:12,100 but it's in response to a comment that 2836 05:29:12,100 --> 05:29:15,100 was made about designating october 12 2837 05:29:17,100 --> 05:29:19,401 to honor indigenous history. 2838 05:29:20,100 --> 05:29:24,201 at one time, october 12 became -- was 2839 05:29:25,100 --> 05:29:28,100 celebrated as a holiday, as a college 2840 05:29:28,100 --> 05:29:32,100 holiday but not in honor of someone 2841 05:29:32,100 --> 05:29:35,100 who thought he had come to india, but 2842 05:29:35,100 --> 05:29:38,100 in honor of the people who were living 2843 05:29:38,100 --> 05:29:42,100 in the americas and that ceased to be 2844 05:29:42,100 --> 05:29:44,100 a holiday a long time ago here at city 2845 05:29:44,100 --> 05:29:46,100 college and those are the comments I 2846 05:29:46,100 --> 05:29:47,100 wanted to make. 2847 05:29:47,100 --> 05:29:49,401 >> thank you so much. 2848 05:29:51,100 --> 05:29:54,601 this is on 12a, trustee chung? 2849 05:29:56,100 --> 05:29:58,100 >> thank you, trustee martinez. 2850 05:29:58,100 --> 05:30:02,100 I also wanted to thank the individuals 2851 05:30:02,100 --> 05:30:03,100 or individual that worked on this 2852 05:30:03,100 --> 05:30:04,100 resolution. 2853 05:30:04,100 --> 05:30:07,100 I don't know if it was because of the 2854 05:30:07,100 --> 05:30:10,100 summer break, it's every resolution I 2855 05:30:10,100 --> 05:30:12,100 think I've ever hoped this resolution 2856 05:30:12,100 --> 05:30:13,100 would look like. 2857 05:30:13,100 --> 05:30:15,100 >> I think there were a lot of people 2858 05:30:15,100 --> 05:30:18,100 who contributed in many ways, the 2859 05:30:18,100 --> 05:30:22,201 credit goes to steven she mans -- 2860 05:30:26,100 --> 05:30:27,100 shemansky. 2861 05:30:27,100 --> 05:30:28,100 >> thank you for making this happen. 2862 05:30:28,100 --> 05:30:31,601 >> and I also realized when speaking 2863 05:30:32,100 --> 05:30:35,100 with former student chancellor heather 2864 05:30:35,100 --> 05:30:39,100 brandt is that I understand that as I 2865 05:30:39,100 --> 05:30:43,100 have mentioned before, the hope is to 2866 05:30:43,100 --> 05:30:45,100 be able to share some of the events 2867 05:30:45,100 --> 05:30:46,100 and community events that are 2868 05:30:46,100 --> 05:30:49,100 happening on campus as we -- so that 2869 05:30:49,100 --> 05:30:52,100 resolutions are not just so 2870 05:30:52,100 --> 05:30:54,100 superficial but I also understand 2871 05:30:54,100 --> 05:30:56,100 for the safety of our students that 2872 05:30:56,100 --> 05:30:59,100 might have not been shared publicly, 2873 05:30:59,100 --> 05:31:01,100 but if that information could be 2874 05:31:01,100 --> 05:31:03,100 shared with trustees through e-mail in 2875 05:31:03,100 --> 05:31:06,100 some way so we can celebrate with the 2876 05:31:06,100 --> 05:31:07,100 student, that would be great. 2877 05:31:07,100 --> 05:31:10,100 >> alright, thank you so much. 2878 05:31:12,100 --> 05:31:15,100 alright, discussion for 12a has 2879 05:31:15,100 --> 05:31:16,100 concluded. 2880 05:31:16,100 --> 05:31:19,100 I think the next item is the one that 2881 05:31:19,100 --> 05:31:23,801 I would like to discuss which was 15h 2882 05:31:24,100 --> 05:31:28,100 and this is the -- if you could call 2883 05:31:28,100 --> 05:31:29,100 that item. 2884 05:31:29,100 --> 05:31:32,100 >> sure, 15h is the authorization to 2885 05:31:32,100 --> 05:31:34,401 increase the professional services 2886 05:31:35,100 --> 05:31:37,100 contract with gelfand partners 2887 05:31:37,100 --> 05:31:39,100 architects for furniture coordination 2888 05:31:39,100 --> 05:31:40,100 and consulting services associated 2889 05:31:40,100 --> 05:31:43,100 with the evans center modernization 2890 05:31:43,100 --> 05:31:44,100 project. 2891 05:31:44,100 --> 05:31:45,100 >> thank you. 2892 05:31:45,100 --> 05:31:47,100 yeah, the reason I pulled this, I was 2893 05:31:47,100 --> 05:31:49,100 trying to understand, we heard some 2894 05:31:49,100 --> 05:31:53,100 things related to the evans center and 2895 05:31:53,100 --> 05:31:56,601 wanted to just better understand how 2896 05:31:57,100 --> 05:32:00,100 the policy that's mentioned in 2897 05:32:01,100 --> 05:32:03,100 this item in relation to pla and just 2898 05:32:03,100 --> 05:32:07,100 some of the things we heard today. 2899 05:32:07,100 --> 05:32:11,100 >> yeah, I'm -- I don't know if 2900 05:32:11,100 --> 05:32:13,100 alberto was ill tonight so I'm not 2901 05:32:13,100 --> 05:32:15,100 sure if he's still online, he is, 2902 05:32:15,100 --> 05:32:17,100 okay, great. 2903 05:32:17,100 --> 05:32:21,801 we'll have avc vasquez as well as vc 2904 05:32:22,100 --> 05:32:24,100 carter can talk about the policies and 2905 05:32:24,100 --> 05:32:26,100 processes and the bidding. 2906 05:32:26,100 --> 05:32:28,100 >> I hope you're feeling better. 2907 05:32:28,100 --> 05:32:31,100 >> yes, I am, thank you, and good 2908 05:32:31,100 --> 05:32:33,100 evening, trustees. 2909 05:32:34,100 --> 05:32:38,201 >> so, if you could perhaps just talk 2910 05:32:39,100 --> 05:32:41,100 about what the rules and regulations 2911 05:32:41,100 --> 05:32:43,100 that we use in terms of bidding in 2912 05:32:43,100 --> 05:32:44,100 general and how they were done with 2913 05:32:44,100 --> 05:32:48,100 this project I think is the question. 2914 05:32:48,100 --> 05:32:50,100 >> okay, no, thank you, I will follow 2915 05:32:50,100 --> 05:32:52,100 up, and I did hear the comments from 2916 05:32:52,100 --> 05:32:54,100 the gentleman that were there this 2917 05:32:54,100 --> 05:32:56,100 evening and I will also make sure to 2918 05:32:56,100 --> 05:32:58,100 connect with the contractor and get a 2919 05:32:58,100 --> 05:33:00,100 better understanding and clarification 2920 05:33:00,100 --> 05:33:02,100 of that occurrence that they described. 2921 05:33:02,100 --> 05:33:05,100 we don't want that to be happening on 2922 05:33:05,100 --> 05:33:06,100 our project sites. 2923 05:33:06,100 --> 05:33:10,201 just in terms of our project bidding 2924 05:33:13,100 --> 05:33:14,100 processes, we have project labor 2925 05:33:14,100 --> 05:33:17,601 agreement which has a more specific 2926 05:33:18,100 --> 05:33:22,100 focus on the individual labor in the 2927 05:33:22,100 --> 05:33:25,100 community, it's not necessarily a 2928 05:33:25,100 --> 05:33:27,100 business enterprise item, it's more 2929 05:33:27,100 --> 05:33:30,100 greed towards a union and the union 2930 05:33:30,100 --> 05:33:33,100 workers but that project la project 2931 05:33:33,100 --> 05:33:35,100 labor agreement. 2932 05:33:36,100 --> 05:33:38,100 giant construction was -- as we bid 2933 05:33:38,100 --> 05:33:40,100 the project out early in the spring, 2934 05:33:40,100 --> 05:33:43,100 we to our normal processes of 2935 05:33:43,100 --> 05:33:45,100 advertising out. 2936 05:33:46,100 --> 05:33:50,801 we do have an slbe program where we're 2937 05:33:52,100 --> 05:33:54,100 targeting 30% requirement either 2938 05:33:54,100 --> 05:33:57,601 through their own company or through 2939 05:33:59,100 --> 05:34:01,100 their subcontractors and the company 2940 05:34:01,100 --> 05:34:03,100 that they -- the giant, they did 2941 05:34:03,100 --> 05:34:07,100 exceed that goal of up to 33%, the 2942 05:34:07,100 --> 05:34:10,100 goal was 30% and we have that for our 2943 05:34:10,100 --> 05:34:13,601 construction bids and also our other 2944 05:34:14,100 --> 05:34:16,100 consultant rfp's as well. 2945 05:34:16,100 --> 05:34:19,100 so, in that sense, they also go 2946 05:34:19,100 --> 05:34:22,601 through the process of outreaching to 2947 05:34:24,100 --> 05:34:26,100 some local newspapers and through 2948 05:34:26,100 --> 05:34:30,100 their own methods of -- through their 2949 05:34:30,100 --> 05:34:33,100 own website and also outreach -- they 2950 05:34:33,100 --> 05:34:36,100 do have -- I'm trying to get to it on 2951 05:34:36,100 --> 05:34:38,100 my notes here. 2952 05:34:39,100 --> 05:34:42,100 give me two seconds here. 2953 05:34:44,100 --> 05:34:47,601 they outreach through their plan bids 2954 05:34:52,100 --> 05:34:55,100 and also through other organizations 2955 05:34:56,100 --> 05:34:58,100 in the city and around the bay area 2956 05:34:58,100 --> 05:35:00,100 because the list of subcontractors 2957 05:35:00,100 --> 05:35:02,100 that giant has and it's a competitive 2958 05:35:02,100 --> 05:35:06,801 bid and we follow the lowest and -- 2959 05:35:09,100 --> 05:35:11,100 god, I'm trying to go back on the 2960 05:35:11,100 --> 05:35:13,100 terms, it's late, lowest and most 2961 05:35:13,100 --> 05:35:15,100 responsible bidder and they have to be 2962 05:35:15,100 --> 05:35:17,100 responsible to make sure they're 2963 05:35:17,100 --> 05:35:20,601 making their selection based on their 2964 05:35:26,100 --> 05:35:28,100 selection for their contractor, so 2965 05:35:28,100 --> 05:35:30,100 typically we have a list of different 2966 05:35:30,100 --> 05:35:33,100 vendors on this project that are -- 2967 05:35:33,100 --> 05:35:35,100 there's 7 vendors, five vendors from 2968 05:35:35,100 --> 05:35:37,100 san francisco and others throughout 2969 05:35:37,100 --> 05:35:40,100 other parts of the bay area but the 2970 05:35:40,100 --> 05:35:42,100 parent company, giant, is an oakland 2971 05:35:42,100 --> 05:35:43,100 based contractor. 2972 05:35:43,100 --> 05:35:47,201 we're not able to as a public 2973 05:35:50,100 --> 05:35:52,100 contract code, it's open to anybody in 2974 05:35:52,100 --> 05:35:56,801 the city and state to bid on projects. 2975 05:35:57,100 --> 05:35:58,100 >> thank you for that. 2976 05:35:58,100 --> 05:36:00,100 and I know that you're also not 2977 05:36:00,100 --> 05:36:02,100 feeling well, so thank you so much for 2978 05:36:02,100 --> 05:36:05,100 helping answer some of these questions. 2979 05:36:05,100 --> 05:36:09,100 I think I have to be honest, yeah, and 2980 05:36:09,100 --> 05:36:12,100 maybe this will be something we can do 2981 05:36:12,100 --> 05:36:15,100 as a board record or a written item 2982 05:36:15,100 --> 05:36:18,100 because I would really like to 2983 05:36:18,100 --> 05:36:21,100 understand the slbe policy a bit more 2984 05:36:21,100 --> 05:36:25,801 as it relates to this site and then 2985 05:36:27,100 --> 05:36:30,100 also just the intersection of that 2986 05:36:30,100 --> 05:36:32,100 with pla, I'm not sure if I'm 2987 05:36:32,100 --> 05:36:33,100 completely following, just a little 2988 05:36:33,100 --> 05:36:35,100 bit more of an understanding of that, 2989 05:36:35,100 --> 05:36:37,100 I would maybe if that could be 2990 05:36:37,100 --> 05:36:39,401 something for the board. 2991 05:36:41,100 --> 05:36:43,100 >> avc carter has something. 2992 05:36:43,100 --> 05:36:45,100 >> understanding there's vendors out 2993 05:36:45,100 --> 05:36:47,100 there that want to do business with us 2994 05:36:47,100 --> 05:36:50,601 and we have an opportunity to 2995 05:36:52,100 --> 05:36:53,100 leverage our technology to bring on 2996 05:36:53,100 --> 05:36:54,100 technology where we're able to invite 2997 05:36:54,100 --> 05:36:56,100 vendors especially if they have certain 2998 05:36:56,100 --> 05:36:58,100 classifications, that's what we're 2999 05:36:58,100 --> 05:37:00,100 exploring now, we're exploring 3000 05:37:00,100 --> 05:37:02,100 new technology that will help us with 3001 05:37:02,100 --> 05:37:05,100 our rfp process, our bidding process, 3002 05:37:05,100 --> 05:37:07,100 making awareness out there, sending 3003 05:37:07,100 --> 05:37:10,100 the invitation out as opposed to using 3004 05:37:10,100 --> 05:37:13,100 the sf examiner and say go find this, 3005 05:37:13,100 --> 05:37:14,100 it's us going out and reaching out to 3006 05:37:14,100 --> 05:37:16,100 our community. 3007 05:37:16,100 --> 05:37:18,100 when we'll bring this back, we'll 3008 05:37:18,100 --> 05:37:22,201 bring it back with the presentation of 3009 05:37:23,100 --> 05:37:24,100 the new technology that's going to 3010 05:37:24,100 --> 05:37:25,100 align and make sure we're in 3011 05:37:25,100 --> 05:37:26,100 compliance with anything we have in 3012 05:37:26,100 --> 05:37:27,100 our policies. 3013 05:37:27,100 --> 05:37:29,100 >> and I think we can bring a 3014 05:37:29,100 --> 05:37:32,100 presentation back that's planned when 3015 05:37:32,100 --> 05:37:35,100 avc vasquez is feeling better that 3016 05:37:35,100 --> 05:37:38,100 talks about the components those 3017 05:37:38,100 --> 05:37:39,100 things. 3018 05:37:39,100 --> 05:37:41,100 that policy created a target, a goal 3019 05:37:41,100 --> 05:37:45,201 of having 30% of the workers be from 3020 05:37:46,100 --> 05:37:49,100 local things, so that's -- and this 3021 05:37:49,100 --> 05:37:51,401 particular project, it was 32%, 3022 05:37:52,100 --> 05:37:55,100 comparing that with the regulatory 3023 05:37:57,100 --> 05:37:58,100 things, we can bring that back as a 3024 05:37:58,100 --> 05:37:59,100 presentation. 3025 05:37:59,100 --> 05:38:00,100 >> or it could be a written report 3026 05:38:00,100 --> 05:38:02,100 that could lead to a presentation, 3027 05:38:02,100 --> 05:38:04,100 breaking it down, what does local 3028 05:38:04,100 --> 05:38:07,100 mean, how is it defined, is there a 3029 05:38:07,100 --> 05:38:08,100 particular radius of that. 3030 05:38:08,100 --> 05:38:10,100 the other thing that I will just say, 3031 05:38:10,100 --> 05:38:13,100 some of the things that I heard was a 3032 05:38:13,100 --> 05:38:16,100 bit concerning so I appreciate you 3033 05:38:16,100 --> 05:38:18,100 following up with the contractor 3034 05:38:18,100 --> 05:38:20,100 because at the end of day, they are 3035 05:38:20,100 --> 05:38:23,100 representing the institution and so 3036 05:38:23,100 --> 05:38:25,100 some of the things that unfolded, so 3037 05:38:25,100 --> 05:38:27,100 yeah, I do appreciate you looking into 3038 05:38:27,100 --> 05:38:28,100 that. 3039 05:38:28,100 --> 05:38:29,100 >> okay. 3040 05:38:29,100 --> 05:38:32,601 >> alright, that was it for me. 3041 05:38:34,100 --> 05:38:35,100 okay. 3042 05:38:35,100 --> 05:38:38,100 seeing no further discussion on this 3043 05:38:38,100 --> 05:38:43,100 item, I am going to ask for a -- 3044 05:38:43,100 --> 05:38:46,100 >> thank you, alberto, you can go to 3045 05:38:46,100 --> 05:38:47,100 sleep now. 3046 05:38:47,100 --> 05:38:48,100 >> thank you. 3047 05:38:48,100 --> 05:38:49,100 >> feel better. 3048 05:38:49,100 --> 05:38:53,100 I'm going to ask for a motion to 3049 05:38:53,100 --> 05:38:56,601 approve the consent agenda which is 3050 05:39:00,100 --> 05:39:02,100 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 with a note 3051 05:39:08,100 --> 05:39:12,100 that we are going to be voting on 13a 3052 05:39:12,100 --> 05:39:13,100 and 16a separately, so this is the 3053 05:39:13,100 --> 05:39:15,100 entire -- the motion that I am asking 3054 05:39:15,100 --> 05:39:18,601 for is the entire consent agenda 3055 05:39:20,100 --> 05:39:21,100 without 13a and 16a. 3056 05:39:21,100 --> 05:39:22,100 >> so moved. 3057 05:39:22,100 --> 05:39:23,100 >> moved by v.p. Zamora? 3058 05:39:23,100 --> 05:39:24,100 >> second. 3059 05:39:24,100 --> 05:39:26,401 >> seconded by trustee solomon. 3060 05:39:29,100 --> 05:39:30,100 seeing no further discussion on this, 3061 05:39:30,100 --> 05:39:34,100 I'm going to take that acclimation, so 3062 05:39:34,100 --> 05:39:37,601 the consent agenda is approved minus 3063 05:39:38,100 --> 05:39:39,100 13a and 16a. 3064 05:39:39,100 --> 05:39:40,100 alright. 3065 05:39:40,100 --> 05:39:42,100 we have disposed of those. 3066 05:39:42,100 --> 05:39:43,100 now we're going to come to 13a. 3067 05:39:43,100 --> 05:39:45,100 trustee solomon? 3068 05:39:47,100 --> 05:39:49,401 >> thank you, president chisti. 3069 05:39:50,100 --> 05:39:53,100 I think I turned it from on to off 3070 05:39:53,100 --> 05:39:55,100 just now. 3071 05:39:57,100 --> 05:40:01,201 this is the approval of the aalrr 3072 05:40:04,100 --> 05:40:07,100 contract and it's my understanding 3073 05:40:09,100 --> 05:40:12,100 that most if not all of us trustees 3074 05:40:12,100 --> 05:40:15,100 have expressed concerns about working 3075 05:40:15,100 --> 05:40:18,100 with aalrr for purposes of this vote, 3076 05:40:18,100 --> 05:40:21,100 I'll express my strong reservations 3077 05:40:22,100 --> 05:40:25,100 about the problem that trustee 3078 05:40:27,100 --> 05:40:30,601 martinez surfaced about having this as 3079 05:40:32,100 --> 05:40:33,100 an open ended agreement about the 3080 05:40:33,100 --> 05:40:36,100 total amount that will be spent on 3081 05:40:36,100 --> 05:40:37,100 aalrr in that contract. 3082 05:40:37,100 --> 05:40:39,100 I understand what we've budgeted for 3083 05:40:39,100 --> 05:40:42,100 but I'm still uncomfortable with that. 3084 05:40:42,100 --> 05:40:45,100 it was also my understanding that we 3085 05:40:45,100 --> 05:40:49,801 as board were not hoping to add other 3086 05:40:51,100 --> 05:40:55,201 firms to aalrr but to replace aalrr 3087 05:40:56,100 --> 05:40:58,100 with other firms. 3088 05:40:58,100 --> 05:41:00,100 as I recall when we approved their 3089 05:41:00,100 --> 05:41:02,100 last contract, it wass so they could 3090 05:41:02,100 --> 05:41:04,100 complete projects they were already 3091 05:41:04,100 --> 05:41:07,100 working on but it seems to me they've 3092 05:41:07,100 --> 05:41:08,100 taken on new projects and will 3093 05:41:08,100 --> 05:41:12,801 continue to do so if we approve this 3094 05:41:15,100 --> 05:41:16,100 contract. 3095 05:41:16,100 --> 05:41:18,100 >> alright, thank you for that. 3096 05:41:18,100 --> 05:41:20,100 looking over to general counsel. 3097 05:41:20,100 --> 05:41:23,100 >> yes, so before I came, they were 3098 05:41:23,100 --> 05:41:26,100 serving as general counsel, special 3099 05:41:26,100 --> 05:41:28,100 counsel, litigation counsel, advising 3100 05:41:28,100 --> 05:41:30,401 hr, labor negotiation, investigation, 3101 05:41:31,100 --> 05:41:35,100 there were many realms of law plus a 3102 05:41:35,100 --> 05:41:36,100 million different kinds -- so, when we 3103 05:41:36,100 --> 05:41:38,100 asked them to take on a case, they 3104 05:41:38,100 --> 05:41:40,100 assign it to a lawyer who's a 3105 05:41:40,100 --> 05:41:44,201 specialist in that case, nobody is a 3106 05:41:47,100 --> 05:41:48,100 specialist in everything, right. 3107 05:41:48,100 --> 05:41:49,100 so, they are continuing to work on 3108 05:41:49,100 --> 05:41:51,100 several ongoing things that preceded 3109 05:41:51,100 --> 05:41:55,100 me that we need somebody to work on, 3110 05:41:55,100 --> 05:41:57,100 if we pull them now, we would have to 3111 05:41:57,100 --> 05:42:00,100 add somebody else, we don't have -- 3112 05:42:00,100 --> 05:42:04,100 and honestly the rates from what I 3113 05:42:04,100 --> 05:42:06,100 have seen aren't horrible but I do 3114 05:42:06,100 --> 05:42:08,100 think we're trying to wean ourselves 3115 05:42:08,100 --> 05:42:11,100 off of them, so I haven't that I'm 3116 05:42:11,100 --> 05:42:14,100 aware of assigned any new business to 3117 05:42:14,100 --> 05:42:15,100 them. 3118 05:42:15,100 --> 05:42:16,100 >> we have not. 3119 05:42:16,100 --> 05:42:20,100 >> I just reviewed the invoice I got 3120 05:42:20,100 --> 05:42:23,100 from them today and it's all matters 3121 05:42:23,100 --> 05:42:25,100 that started before I got here. 3122 05:42:25,100 --> 05:42:28,100 and then we do have a few attorneys 3123 05:42:28,100 --> 05:42:31,100 who have been working on labor or 3124 05:42:31,100 --> 05:42:35,100 things that have been -- hr has been 3125 05:42:35,100 --> 05:42:37,100 happy with them, so I'm not inclined 3126 05:42:37,100 --> 05:42:39,100 to pull them in the middle of 3127 05:42:39,100 --> 05:42:41,100 negotiations, it doesn't make sense. 3128 05:42:41,100 --> 05:42:45,100 I think that we would like to expand 3129 05:42:45,100 --> 05:42:47,401 our pool of attorneys. 3130 05:42:49,100 --> 05:42:50,100 that's definitely on my slate and this 3131 05:42:50,100 --> 05:42:53,100 was the first contract because I have 3132 05:42:53,100 --> 05:42:55,100 to get -- because we have ongoing 3133 05:42:55,100 --> 05:42:56,100 matters with them, we have to continue 3134 05:42:56,100 --> 05:43:00,100 to pay them, but I spoke with 3135 05:43:00,100 --> 05:43:02,100 attorneys from in-house council from 3136 05:43:02,100 --> 05:43:03,100 most of the other community colleges 3137 05:43:03,100 --> 05:43:05,401 that have in-house counsel. 3138 05:43:06,100 --> 05:43:10,100 they all use aalrr and lcw and they 3139 05:43:10,100 --> 05:43:12,100 have a few independent attorneys they 3140 05:43:12,100 --> 05:43:14,100 pick and choose from, so that was my 3141 05:43:14,100 --> 05:43:17,100 plan was to imitate that and build up 3142 05:43:17,100 --> 05:43:19,100 a slate of attorneys that we can go to 3143 05:43:19,100 --> 05:43:21,100 who are competent in different areas, 3144 05:43:21,100 --> 05:43:25,801 but I will say using them has been 3145 05:43:26,100 --> 05:43:28,100 incredibly helpful because they can 3146 05:43:28,100 --> 05:43:31,100 very, very quickly assign someone and 3147 05:43:31,100 --> 05:43:33,401 handle something that needs 3148 05:43:35,100 --> 05:43:37,100 handling right away. 3149 05:43:39,100 --> 05:43:42,100 I have taken a number of cases and 3150 05:43:42,100 --> 05:43:45,100 prelitigation issues and there's not 3151 05:43:45,100 --> 05:43:48,100 enough hours in the day for me to 3152 05:43:48,100 --> 05:43:49,100 respond and oversee every contract 3153 05:43:49,100 --> 05:43:52,100 that comes across my desk. 3154 05:43:52,100 --> 05:43:55,601 I haven't handed off anything to 3155 05:43:58,100 --> 05:43:59,100 aalrr. 3156 05:43:59,100 --> 05:44:04,100 >> so, I did check with hr and we are 3157 05:44:04,100 --> 05:44:06,100 using aalrr, the negotiations which 3158 05:44:06,100 --> 05:44:10,201 preceded that, we have not done any 3159 05:44:11,100 --> 05:44:13,100 investigations with them, we've 3160 05:44:13,100 --> 05:44:15,100 transitioned away from that. 3161 05:44:15,100 --> 05:44:18,100 we have not reached out to them for 3162 05:44:18,100 --> 05:44:20,100 new litigation so we are relying upon 3163 05:44:20,100 --> 05:44:23,100 them for ongoing issues but we are 3164 05:44:23,100 --> 05:44:24,100 slowly and you noticed that because 3165 05:44:24,100 --> 05:44:26,100 more things have been coming to you, 3166 05:44:26,100 --> 05:44:30,100 we are really trying to close things 3167 05:44:30,100 --> 05:44:31,100 that have been open for a very long 3168 05:44:31,100 --> 05:44:34,100 time so our intent is exactly that 3169 05:44:34,100 --> 05:44:36,100 which is to use them for existing 3170 05:44:36,100 --> 05:44:38,100 things other than as I said we are 3171 05:44:38,100 --> 05:44:41,601 using them for the nobodies -- 3172 05:44:42,100 --> 05:44:44,100 negotiations which has been ongoing 3173 05:44:44,100 --> 05:44:46,100 but we are not giving them -- we are 3174 05:44:46,100 --> 05:44:48,100 doing our best and as far as I know, 3175 05:44:48,100 --> 05:44:50,100 we have not given them new cases. 3176 05:44:50,100 --> 05:44:53,100 >> I will say there have been a couple 3177 05:44:53,100 --> 05:44:55,100 of small matters that I have asked 3178 05:44:55,100 --> 05:44:58,100 them to handle which are not 3179 05:44:58,100 --> 05:45:01,100 significant but we -- you know, the 3180 05:45:01,100 --> 05:45:03,100 budget has decreased significantly in 3181 05:45:03,100 --> 05:45:05,100 legal and it's scheduled to every 3182 05:45:05,100 --> 05:45:08,100 year, so -- and part of that -- yeah, 3183 05:45:08,100 --> 05:45:11,100 and part of that is from me being 3184 05:45:11,100 --> 05:45:14,100 brought on board and so I would say 3185 05:45:14,100 --> 05:45:16,100 they're definitely handling the range 3186 05:45:16,100 --> 05:45:18,100 of issues that they were handling 3187 05:45:18,100 --> 05:45:21,100 prior to me coming on board. 3188 05:45:21,100 --> 05:45:23,100 and I will say even -- I don't know 3189 05:45:23,100 --> 05:45:25,100 what was happening, I'm assuming they 3190 05:45:25,100 --> 05:45:27,100 were handling all of the california 3191 05:45:27,100 --> 05:45:29,100 public records request, I get many 3192 05:45:29,100 --> 05:45:32,100 every day, it's incredible, that could 3193 05:45:32,100 --> 05:45:34,401 just be one job. 3194 05:45:36,100 --> 05:45:38,100 so, in fact, it is at a lot of the 3195 05:45:38,100 --> 05:45:40,100 other colleges. 3196 05:45:40,100 --> 05:45:41,100 >> it actually is. 3197 05:45:41,100 --> 05:45:42,100 >> okay. 3198 05:45:42,100 --> 05:45:44,100 trustee mccarty? 3199 05:45:45,100 --> 05:45:48,100 >> yeah, you said something that 3200 05:45:48,100 --> 05:45:50,100 sparked a question for me. 3201 05:45:50,100 --> 05:45:52,100 so, what is -- if we're using them 3202 05:45:52,100 --> 05:45:54,100 currently for our labor negotiations, 3203 05:45:54,100 --> 05:45:57,100 what is the long term plan on that 3204 05:45:57,100 --> 05:45:59,100 because that's a pretty expensive 3205 05:45:59,100 --> 05:46:02,100 path to handle labor negotiations, we 3206 05:46:02,100 --> 05:46:04,100 have multiple units so I'm wondering 3207 05:46:04,100 --> 05:46:06,100 do we have a longer vision, if we're 3208 05:46:06,100 --> 05:46:08,100 weaning off of them, what is the plan 3209 05:46:08,100 --> 05:46:11,100 for that, which we may have one now, 3210 05:46:11,100 --> 05:46:13,100 we may not. 3211 05:46:13,100 --> 05:46:17,201 >> regardless of aalrr or not, the our 3212 05:46:19,100 --> 05:46:21,100 labor partners have people who are 3213 05:46:21,100 --> 05:46:24,100 100% dedicated to labor relations and 3214 05:46:24,100 --> 05:46:28,100 negotiations, and so we would be using 3215 05:46:28,100 --> 05:46:29,100 our general counsel who doesn't have 3216 05:46:29,100 --> 05:46:33,100 enough time to sleep and our hr person 3217 05:46:33,100 --> 05:46:35,100 exclusively, so right now it's a much 3218 05:46:35,100 --> 05:46:40,100 better way for us to be able to have 3219 05:46:40,100 --> 05:46:44,100 the resources we need at the table. 3220 05:46:44,100 --> 05:46:46,100 we're looking at what we can do but we 3221 05:46:46,100 --> 05:46:47,100 don't have a specific plan right now. 3222 05:46:47,100 --> 05:46:50,100 we don't have enough human power 3223 05:46:50,100 --> 05:46:53,100 that's dedicated just to negotiations 3224 05:46:55,100 --> 05:46:57,100 and so having that expertise along 3225 05:46:57,100 --> 05:47:00,601 with obviously our hr professionals in 3226 05:47:02,100 --> 05:47:05,100 the room, but even if we didn't use 3227 05:47:05,100 --> 05:47:07,100 them at this point in time, we would 3228 05:47:07,100 --> 05:47:09,100 need to be using someone. 3229 05:47:09,100 --> 05:47:12,100 >> I would also say for a lot of the 3230 05:47:12,100 --> 05:47:15,100 unions, christine is the lead and 3231 05:47:15,100 --> 05:47:17,100 handling it solely and then if there's 3232 05:47:17,100 --> 05:47:20,100 a legal issue, she'll pull me in. 3233 05:47:20,100 --> 05:47:23,100 but -- so, for the majority of unions, 3234 05:47:23,100 --> 05:47:24,100 we don't have outside counsel working 3235 05:47:24,100 --> 05:47:25,100 on that. 3236 05:47:25,100 --> 05:47:27,100 >> just for the negotiations? 3237 05:47:27,100 --> 05:47:28,100 >> yeah. 3238 05:47:28,100 --> 05:47:29,100 >> she was asking about the 3239 05:47:29,100 --> 05:47:32,100 negotiations that we do have, an 3240 05:47:32,100 --> 05:47:33,100 attorney as part of that? 3241 05:47:33,100 --> 05:47:35,100 >> yes. 3242 05:47:36,100 --> 05:47:40,100 >> is matt at everybody's table or no? 3243 05:47:40,100 --> 05:47:42,100 >> he's aft and seiu. 3244 05:47:42,100 --> 05:47:44,100 >> are we paying for outside legal 3245 05:47:44,100 --> 05:47:46,100 counsel to be at the other tables? 3246 05:47:46,100 --> 05:47:48,100 >> they're not at the other tables, 3247 05:47:48,100 --> 05:47:49,100 they would be available for questions 3248 05:47:49,100 --> 05:47:51,100 if christine had them but they're not 3249 05:47:51,100 --> 05:47:52,100 at the table. 3250 05:47:52,100 --> 05:47:57,401 >> and do we think, and you may not be 3251 05:47:58,100 --> 05:48:00,100 there yet because you are also 3252 05:48:00,100 --> 05:48:03,100 new, do we have a 3253 05:48:03,100 --> 05:48:06,100 longer vision or model where we think 3254 05:48:06,100 --> 05:48:08,100 we'll have local in-house leading 3255 05:48:08,100 --> 05:48:10,100 negotiations or do you think model 3256 05:48:10,100 --> 05:48:13,100 we're going to have is going to always 3257 05:48:13,100 --> 05:48:14,100 be outside could've? 3258 05:48:14,100 --> 05:48:18,100 >> I think we need to evaluate that, 3259 05:48:18,100 --> 05:48:20,100 what that individual would be putting 3260 05:48:20,100 --> 05:48:23,100 -- would there be a second internal 3261 05:48:23,100 --> 05:48:25,100 attorney that focused on negotiations, 3262 05:48:25,100 --> 05:48:27,100 so we are thinking about that but we 3263 05:48:27,100 --> 05:48:28,100 don't have -- right now we're just 3264 05:48:28,100 --> 05:48:30,100 going to get through this cycle and 3265 05:48:30,100 --> 05:48:32,100 look at what works the best, but 3266 05:48:32,100 --> 05:48:36,100 definitely open to looking at what is 3267 05:48:36,100 --> 05:48:38,100 the most effective not only in terms 3268 05:48:38,100 --> 05:48:40,100 of representing us but also in terms 3269 05:48:40,100 --> 05:48:42,100 of our budget. 3270 05:48:42,100 --> 05:48:44,100 >> and I think once we get past this 3271 05:48:44,100 --> 05:48:46,100 year and we can look and see what 3272 05:48:46,100 --> 05:48:49,100 we spent, we'll have a better 3273 05:48:49,100 --> 05:48:50,100 understanding of what's the most cost 3274 05:48:50,100 --> 05:48:51,100 effective way to address this. 3275 05:48:51,100 --> 05:48:53,100 >> okay. 3276 05:48:57,100 --> 05:48:59,100 trustee solomon? 3277 05:48:59,100 --> 05:49:02,100 >> a follow-up question, so what is 3278 05:49:02,100 --> 05:49:06,801 going on with trying to find other law 3279 05:49:09,100 --> 05:49:11,100 firms? 3280 05:49:14,100 --> 05:49:18,100 >> so, as I said, I reached tout other 3281 05:49:18,100 --> 05:49:20,100 schools to see what they were doing 3282 05:49:20,100 --> 05:49:22,100 and I'll probably follow up with some 3283 05:49:22,100 --> 05:49:24,100 recommendations from them. 3284 05:49:27,100 --> 05:49:30,100 so I'm still learning the contract 3285 05:49:30,100 --> 05:49:32,100 approval process, but what I'm opining 3286 05:49:32,100 --> 05:49:34,100 for is smaller firms and there's a few 3287 05:49:34,100 --> 05:49:36,100 firms in the area I have worked with 3288 05:49:36,100 --> 05:49:40,100 who I've been happy with so we may put 3289 05:49:40,100 --> 05:49:44,801 out some requests for bids, but it's a 3290 05:49:46,100 --> 05:49:48,100 little bit difficult with all of our 3291 05:49:48,100 --> 05:49:50,100 rules around contracts to kind of get 3292 05:49:50,100 --> 05:49:53,601 a specialized slate of people and 3293 05:49:54,100 --> 05:49:57,100 interestingly for one of the issues 3294 05:49:57,100 --> 05:50:01,100 that we're dealing with that we need 3295 05:50:01,100 --> 05:50:03,100 somebody external, we interviewed 3296 05:50:03,100 --> 05:50:05,100 three firms and the firm that we were 3297 05:50:05,100 --> 05:50:08,100 going to go with originally was the 3298 05:50:08,100 --> 05:50:10,100 least expensive. 3299 05:50:11,100 --> 05:50:14,100 so, yeah, so we are still -- we're 3300 05:50:14,100 --> 05:50:16,100 actively in process, we just went 3301 05:50:16,100 --> 05:50:17,100 through that today. 3302 05:50:17,100 --> 05:50:19,100 >> [inaudible] 3303 05:50:20,100 --> 05:50:24,100 >> it's not a law firm, but yes. 3304 05:50:24,100 --> 05:50:29,100 I do think we have lcw but I don't 3305 05:50:29,100 --> 05:50:31,100 think it's on agenda today, but it's 3306 05:50:31,100 --> 05:50:32,100 coming. 3307 05:50:32,100 --> 05:50:34,100 >> that's what they're asking. 3308 05:50:34,100 --> 05:50:36,100 >> there are some -- what I'm looking 3309 05:50:36,100 --> 05:50:39,100 for is smaller firms to teal with the 3310 05:50:39,100 --> 05:50:41,100 specialized things, so instead of 3311 05:50:41,100 --> 05:50:43,100 going to one large firm we caner can 3312 05:50:43,100 --> 05:50:46,100 go to some small firms, we have a 3313 05:50:46,100 --> 05:50:49,100 labor issue, we have a contract issue, 3314 05:50:49,100 --> 05:50:51,100 you know -- 3315 05:50:51,100 --> 05:50:54,100 >> okay, just -- we're getting close 3316 05:50:54,100 --> 05:50:59,100 to our time, so I'm going to have us 3317 05:50:59,100 --> 05:51:01,100 consider voting on this but trustee 3318 05:51:01,100 --> 05:51:02,100 chung? 3319 05:51:02,100 --> 05:51:04,100 >> thank you for driving that topic. 3320 05:51:04,100 --> 05:51:06,100 I'm not comfortable voting for this 3321 05:51:06,100 --> 05:51:08,100 contract without an actual number 3322 05:51:08,100 --> 05:51:10,100 attached to it. 3323 05:51:10,100 --> 05:51:12,100 it is just quotes for what each 3324 05:51:12,100 --> 05:51:14,100 service coasters and we have never 3325 05:51:14,100 --> 05:51:18,801 done this -- costs and we have never 3326 05:51:19,100 --> 05:51:21,100 done that for them or any other vendor. 3327 05:51:21,100 --> 05:51:23,100 >> we would not want to do a 3328 05:51:23,100 --> 05:51:27,201 contract with them that said we will 3329 05:51:28,100 --> 05:51:30,100 do it for a million dollars. 3330 05:51:30,100 --> 05:51:31,100 we internally have budgeted what we're 3331 05:51:31,100 --> 05:51:34,100 willing to spend on them but we do not 3332 05:51:34,100 --> 05:51:35,100 want to -- 3333 05:51:35,100 --> 05:51:36,100 >> how much are we willing to spend on 3334 05:51:36,100 --> 05:51:37,100 them? 3335 05:51:37,100 --> 05:51:38,100 >> total if you saw on budget, we are 3336 05:51:38,100 --> 05:51:42,100 looking at a million a year, then 750, 3337 05:51:42,100 --> 05:51:44,100 then 650, not just to them but to all 3338 05:51:44,100 --> 05:51:46,100 legal costs. 3339 05:51:46,100 --> 05:51:48,100 >> I guess my point to this is we've 3340 05:51:48,100 --> 05:51:51,100 had this conversation on multiple 3341 05:51:51,100 --> 05:51:52,100 rounds and the solution in order for 3342 05:51:52,100 --> 05:51:56,100 us to keep it on the table and for it 3343 05:51:56,100 --> 05:52:00,801 to come back to us is limiting how 3344 05:52:02,100 --> 05:52:05,100 much we allocate for this -- if we are 3345 05:52:05,100 --> 05:52:08,100 to vote in favor tonight, which we 3346 05:52:08,100 --> 05:52:09,100 can't because -- unless we're willing 3347 05:52:09,100 --> 05:52:13,801 to amend the contract right now is to 3348 05:52:14,100 --> 05:52:16,100 have an amount -- what we've done in 3349 05:52:16,100 --> 05:52:18,100 the past is 300 thousand dollars and 3350 05:52:18,100 --> 05:52:21,100 it would circle back to us to revisit 3351 05:52:21,100 --> 05:52:23,100 and that way then it triggers an 3352 05:52:23,100 --> 05:52:24,100 opportunity for us to have this 3353 05:52:24,100 --> 05:52:26,100 discussion again. 3354 05:52:28,100 --> 05:52:29,100 >> trustee mccarty? 3355 05:52:29,100 --> 05:52:31,100 >> yeah, I was going to say because 3356 05:52:31,100 --> 05:52:33,100 what you were talking about is we 3357 05:52:33,100 --> 05:52:35,100 previously had no to exceed amounts in 3358 05:52:35,100 --> 05:52:37,100 our contracts so that's what's not in 3359 05:52:37,100 --> 05:52:39,100 this contract that you were thinking 3360 05:52:39,100 --> 05:52:43,100 of, it's a not to exceed a amount and 3361 05:52:43,100 --> 05:52:45,100 that trigger it to come back to the 3362 05:52:45,100 --> 05:52:49,100 board, that's what you are not seeing 3363 05:52:49,100 --> 05:52:50,100 here? 3364 05:52:50,100 --> 05:52:53,100 >> it wasn't in last year's aalrr? 3365 05:52:53,100 --> 05:52:54,100 >> it was. 3366 05:52:54,100 --> 05:52:56,100 I don't know if it was in the contract 3367 05:52:56,100 --> 05:53:00,100 but what happened on my very first 3368 05:53:00,100 --> 05:53:03,100 might here on june 26, 2025, the 3369 05:53:03,100 --> 05:53:05,100 board approved the tentative budget 3370 05:53:05,100 --> 05:53:08,100 but did not approve with that contract 3371 05:53:08,100 --> 05:53:10,100 for aalrr and said we would only do 3372 05:53:10,100 --> 05:53:11,100 300 and come back and then we had to 3373 05:53:11,100 --> 05:53:13,100 come back and for an extension, 3374 05:53:13,100 --> 05:53:15,100 that was the case last year. 3375 05:53:15,100 --> 05:53:17,100 so, if you would like us to come back 3376 05:53:17,100 --> 05:53:21,801 with a not to exceed and we're going 3377 05:53:22,100 --> 05:53:24,100 to be realistic so you're going to 3378 05:53:24,100 --> 05:53:25,100 probably argue with us too but happy 3379 05:53:25,100 --> 05:53:26,100 to do that. 3380 05:53:26,100 --> 05:53:27,100 >> okay, so I think what I'm hearing 3381 05:53:27,100 --> 05:53:29,100 is that we're going to have to item 3382 05:53:29,100 --> 05:53:33,100 come back to the board aiming for the 3383 05:53:33,100 --> 05:53:35,100 regular meeting. 3384 05:53:37,100 --> 05:53:41,100 I will ask for a motion based on this 3385 05:53:41,100 --> 05:53:43,100 discussion and proposing the motion 3386 05:53:43,100 --> 05:53:45,100 for consideration to continue this 3387 05:53:45,100 --> 05:53:48,100 item to the next regularly scheduled 3388 05:53:48,100 --> 05:53:49,100 board meeting with some of the 3389 05:53:49,100 --> 05:53:53,100 feedback we have asked around a cap 3390 05:53:53,100 --> 05:53:54,100 tied to this. 3391 05:53:54,100 --> 05:53:55,100 >> moved. 3392 05:53:55,100 --> 05:53:56,100 >> a motion. 3393 05:53:56,100 --> 05:53:57,100 >> so moved. 3394 05:53:57,100 --> 05:53:58,100 >> moved by trustee chung. 3395 05:53:58,100 --> 05:53:59,100 >> second. 3396 05:53:59,100 --> 05:54:02,601 >> sorry, seconded by v.p. Zamora? 3397 05:54:08,100 --> 05:54:11,100 if there's any other discussion? 3398 05:54:12,100 --> 05:54:15,100 seeing no further discussion, I will 3399 05:54:15,100 --> 05:54:18,100 take this without objection, so this 3400 05:54:18,100 --> 05:54:22,100 item is continued to the next regular 3401 05:54:22,100 --> 05:54:24,100 board meeting with consideration for a 3402 05:54:24,100 --> 05:54:27,100 cap can amount to be included. 3403 05:54:27,100 --> 05:54:28,100 alright. 3404 05:54:28,100 --> 05:54:29,100 the next item is 16a. 3405 05:54:29,100 --> 05:54:31,100 trustee solomon? 3406 05:54:33,100 --> 05:54:35,401 >> thank you, president chisti. 3407 05:54:37,100 --> 05:54:40,100 I did a side by side comparison of the 3408 05:54:40,100 --> 05:54:43,601 contract that we approved on february 3409 05:54:45,100 --> 05:54:47,100 12 and the amendments to that contract 3410 05:54:47,100 --> 05:54:50,100 so I could see what the current language 3411 05:54:50,100 --> 05:54:54,801 is since we can't see it in the 3412 05:54:55,100 --> 05:54:57,100 amended version. 3413 05:54:58,100 --> 05:55:01,100 the small thing I want but significant 3414 05:55:01,100 --> 05:55:04,100 I think thing that I want to point 3415 05:55:04,100 --> 05:55:08,801 out, I believe on page 1 of the first 3416 05:55:09,100 --> 05:55:12,100 amendment, it sounds weird to say the 3417 05:55:12,100 --> 05:55:15,100 first amendment, in the constitution, 3418 05:55:17,100 --> 05:55:19,100 section c, 2c says termination without 3419 05:55:19,100 --> 05:55:22,100 cause but I think it's supposed to say 3420 05:55:22,100 --> 05:55:23,100 termination with cause because now we 3421 05:55:23,100 --> 05:55:26,100 have two sections that are called 3422 05:55:26,100 --> 05:55:28,100 termination without cause. 3423 05:55:28,100 --> 05:55:32,100 c and d are both called without cause 3424 05:55:32,100 --> 05:55:35,100 but section c in the document posted 3425 05:55:35,100 --> 05:55:36,100 -- 3426 05:55:36,100 --> 05:55:38,100 >> it says for cause. 3427 05:55:38,100 --> 05:55:39,100 >> says for cause. 3428 05:55:39,100 --> 05:55:43,100 >> that is a typo, that should be 3429 05:55:43,100 --> 05:55:44,100 termination with cause. 3430 05:55:44,100 --> 05:55:47,100 >> otherwise what I would to say is by 3431 05:55:47,100 --> 05:55:49,100 doing the side by side comparisons, I 3432 05:55:49,100 --> 05:55:52,100 was able to see what has been deleted 3433 05:55:52,100 --> 05:55:54,100 from the february 12 contract and I 3434 05:55:54,100 --> 05:55:57,601 do have concerns about what's been 3435 05:55:58,100 --> 05:55:59,100 deleted. 3436 05:55:59,100 --> 05:56:02,100 one is there was a date certain by 3437 05:56:02,100 --> 05:56:06,100 which time council had to become a 3438 05:56:06,100 --> 05:56:07,100 licensed california attorney, that 3439 05:56:07,100 --> 05:56:10,601 date has been removed in several 3440 05:56:13,100 --> 05:56:15,100 places, and I believe that the -- if 3441 05:56:15,100 --> 05:56:16,100 I'm reading this correctly, the 3442 05:56:16,100 --> 05:56:19,100 requirement to become a licensed 3443 05:56:19,100 --> 05:56:22,100 california attorney has been removed 3444 05:56:22,100 --> 05:56:25,100 and what is left is what was 3445 05:56:25,100 --> 05:56:29,201 originally in there as well which is 3446 05:56:31,100 --> 05:56:32,100 registered in-house counsel, so I 3447 05:56:32,100 --> 05:56:36,201 think what this is saying is current 3448 05:56:39,100 --> 05:56:43,201 counsel will need to be a registered 3449 05:56:44,100 --> 05:56:46,100 in-house counsel but not a licensed 3450 05:56:46,100 --> 05:56:49,100 california attorney and I need 3451 05:56:49,100 --> 05:56:50,100 clarification. 3452 05:56:50,100 --> 05:56:52,100 >> so, and I feel odd talking about 3453 05:56:52,100 --> 05:56:55,100 general counsel sitting right next to 3454 05:56:55,100 --> 05:56:58,100 me, so, amy is in fact legally 3455 05:56:58,100 --> 05:57:00,100 authorized by the california state bar 3456 05:57:00,100 --> 05:57:02,100 to practice law in california, just 3457 05:57:02,100 --> 05:57:05,100 not to litigate because she has not 3458 05:57:05,100 --> 05:57:07,100 passed the bar in california. 3459 05:57:07,100 --> 05:57:09,100 we have a letter from the bar saying 3460 05:57:09,100 --> 05:57:11,100 just that, she is registered with them 3461 05:57:11,100 --> 05:57:13,100 and is legally authorized to practice 3462 05:57:13,100 --> 05:57:15,100 law in california, she just can't 3463 05:57:15,100 --> 05:57:16,100 litigate. 3464 05:57:16,100 --> 05:57:18,100 for our purposes, we would never have 3465 05:57:18,100 --> 05:57:21,100 her litigate case, she does all the 3466 05:57:21,100 --> 05:57:22,100 background work and everything, so we 3467 05:57:22,100 --> 05:57:24,100 amended it to be more accurate and 3468 05:57:24,100 --> 05:57:26,100 also to take away the fact that there 3469 05:57:26,100 --> 05:57:29,100 would be additional compensation tied 3470 05:57:31,100 --> 05:57:34,100 to achieving passing the bar, so it is 3471 05:57:34,100 --> 05:57:35,100 an important distinction. 3472 05:57:35,100 --> 05:57:38,100 we would not want a legal counsel that 3473 05:57:38,100 --> 05:57:40,100 isn't authorized to practice law in 3474 05:57:40,100 --> 05:57:42,100 california but she is and she can talk 3475 05:57:42,100 --> 05:57:45,100 to you about the specifics but there's 3476 05:57:45,100 --> 05:57:48,100 a regular review process by the 3477 05:57:48,100 --> 05:57:49,100 california state bar. 3478 05:57:49,100 --> 05:57:52,100 if at any point in time that changed, 3479 05:57:52,100 --> 05:57:55,100 she would no longer be eligible to be 3480 05:57:55,100 --> 05:57:57,100 general counsel here. 3481 05:57:58,100 --> 05:58:00,100 >> I think there are a few things that 3482 05:58:00,100 --> 05:58:04,100 I just want to make sure you brought 3483 05:58:04,100 --> 05:58:06,100 up, date certain, I think one of the 3484 05:58:06,100 --> 05:58:09,601 things has been addressed around the 3485 05:58:10,100 --> 05:58:12,100 litigation piece and the bar for that, 3486 05:58:12,100 --> 05:58:16,000 and then I think there's a typo, the 3487 05:58:16,000 --> 05:58:18,100 non-substantive edit around 2c should 3488 05:58:18,100 --> 05:58:20,100 be termination with cause. 3489 05:58:20,100 --> 05:58:21,100 >> that's right. 3490 05:58:21,100 --> 05:58:23,100 >> okay. 3491 05:58:26,100 --> 05:58:29,100 >> I'm sorry, but I can't 3492 05:58:30,100 --> 05:58:34,201 see where it says that section 5a 3493 05:58:36,100 --> 05:58:38,100 about getting an increase in salary 3494 05:58:38,100 --> 05:58:40,100 has been deleted. 3495 05:58:40,100 --> 05:58:44,100 >> well, I can look at that, but that 3496 05:58:44,100 --> 05:58:47,100 was tied to -- it specifically said if 3497 05:58:47,100 --> 05:58:49,100 she passed the bar at a certain date, 3498 05:58:49,100 --> 05:58:50,100 she would get another step. 3499 05:58:50,100 --> 05:58:51,100 since that is not happening, that is 3500 05:58:51,100 --> 05:58:53,100 not in the contract. 3501 05:58:53,100 --> 05:58:57,100 >> my problem is -- I'm just going to 3502 05:58:57,100 --> 05:59:01,801 be grumpy and say it, typically in my 3503 05:59:04,100 --> 05:59:07,100 experience when viewing a contract 3504 05:59:09,100 --> 05:59:11,100 with proposed changes, there are 3505 05:59:11,100 --> 05:59:14,100 tracked changes so you can see what's 3506 05:59:14,100 --> 05:59:16,100 new, what's been deleted, and the only 3507 05:59:16,100 --> 05:59:20,801 way to do that with this document on 3508 05:59:21,100 --> 05:59:25,100 the agenda tonight is I had to go and 3509 05:59:25,100 --> 05:59:27,100 find the original proposal -- the 3510 05:59:27,100 --> 05:59:29,100 proposal -- the original signed 3511 05:59:29,100 --> 05:59:32,100 contract and do a side by side 3512 05:59:32,100 --> 05:59:33,100 comparison. 3513 05:59:33,100 --> 05:59:36,100 the fact that this document -- this 3514 05:59:36,100 --> 05:59:39,100 document called first amendment only 3515 05:59:41,100 --> 05:59:42,100 lists the changes. 3516 05:59:42,100 --> 05:59:43,100 if something is going to be deleted, 3517 05:59:43,100 --> 05:59:46,100 it needs to be in there as a deletion 3518 05:59:46,100 --> 05:59:49,100 and it's not in here. 3519 05:59:49,100 --> 05:59:52,100 >> so, we can bring it back at the 3520 05:59:52,100 --> 05:59:56,801 next meeting and we can have hr to 3521 05:59:59,100 --> 06:00:00,100 track changes, but again, the clause 3522 06:00:00,100 --> 06:00:01,100 that we will be deleted if you don't 3523 06:00:01,100 --> 06:00:05,100 see that it has been very specifically 3524 06:00:05,100 --> 06:00:08,100 said what her salary would be and when 3525 06:00:08,100 --> 06:00:11,100 she passed the bar by a certain period 3526 06:00:11,100 --> 06:00:13,100 of time, she would get a step 3527 06:00:13,100 --> 06:00:14,100 increase. 3528 06:00:14,100 --> 06:00:16,100 that will not be triggered unless of 3529 06:00:16,100 --> 06:00:18,100 course she does pass the bar which 3530 06:00:18,100 --> 06:00:19,100 we'd have to renegotiate a that 3531 06:00:19,100 --> 06:00:21,100 because the date would have passed. 3532 06:00:21,100 --> 06:00:24,100 >> so I think I'm hearing -- so 3533 06:00:24,100 --> 06:00:25,100 there's few things that are 3534 06:00:25,100 --> 06:00:28,100 happening, I think this item has some 3535 06:00:28,100 --> 06:00:30,100 discussion, I think there's some 3536 06:00:30,100 --> 06:00:31,100 revisions. 3537 06:00:31,100 --> 06:00:34,100 trustee solomon, would you be able to 3538 06:00:34,100 --> 06:00:37,100 attach or submit your -- I would be 3539 06:00:37,100 --> 06:00:39,100 curious to see what you have. 3540 06:00:39,100 --> 06:00:40,100 I don't know if there's a way -- 3541 06:00:40,100 --> 06:00:44,201 >> we can do the original and track 3542 06:00:45,100 --> 06:00:47,100 changes, so we can provide what 3543 06:00:47,100 --> 06:00:48,100 trustee solomon is saying we did not 3544 06:00:48,100 --> 06:00:49,100 do, it's lot easier than 3545 06:00:49,100 --> 06:00:52,100 trying to do what she did and I'm 3546 06:00:52,100 --> 06:00:54,100 sorry we didn't, any time you see 3547 06:00:54,100 --> 06:00:57,100 something like that, if you would have 3548 06:00:57,100 --> 06:00:58,100 reached out, we would have gotten 3549 06:00:58,100 --> 06:01:00,100 that for everyone. 3550 06:01:01,100 --> 06:01:05,100 >> so, I'm sorry, so I think what's 3551 06:01:05,100 --> 06:01:06,100 going to happen is that this is going 3552 06:01:06,100 --> 06:01:10,801 to come back to the board with track 3553 06:01:12,100 --> 06:01:13,100 changes. 3554 06:01:13,100 --> 06:01:14,100 I also would like to understand the 3555 06:01:14,100 --> 06:01:16,100 question around the date certain piece. 3556 06:01:16,100 --> 06:01:20,100 >> the date certain applies if she had 3557 06:01:20,100 --> 06:01:23,100 passed the bar at a specific date, she 3558 06:01:23,100 --> 06:01:25,100 would have received a step increase. 3559 06:01:25,100 --> 06:01:27,100 that will be deleted because she's not 3560 06:01:27,100 --> 06:01:31,801 passing the bar so there is no date 3561 06:01:32,100 --> 06:01:33,100 certain. 3562 06:01:33,100 --> 06:01:34,100 >> okay. 3563 06:01:34,100 --> 06:01:37,100 so, I see you, mr. Shemansky, I got 3564 06:01:37,100 --> 06:01:38,100 you. 3565 06:01:38,100 --> 06:01:40,100 so let's have a motion to continue 3566 06:01:40,100 --> 06:01:44,201 this item to appear at the next 3567 06:01:46,100 --> 06:01:47,100 regularly scheduled board meeting or 3568 06:01:47,100 --> 06:01:51,100 it could also appear on the 10th so a 3569 06:01:51,100 --> 06:01:53,100 later meeting with track changes. 3570 06:01:53,100 --> 06:01:55,100 >> we can bring it to the business 3571 06:01:55,100 --> 06:01:58,100 meeting with the track changes so it 3572 06:01:58,100 --> 06:01:59,100 can be voted upon. 3573 06:01:59,100 --> 06:02:01,100 >> let's take that motion. 3574 06:02:01,100 --> 06:02:02,100 >> so moved. 3575 06:02:02,100 --> 06:02:03,100 >> second. 3576 06:02:03,100 --> 06:02:06,100 >> moved by v.p. Zamora, seconded by 3577 06:02:06,100 --> 06:02:07,100 trustee solomon. 3578 06:02:07,100 --> 06:02:11,100 if there is no -- I'm going to have 3579 06:02:11,100 --> 06:02:14,100 to take that by roll call vote. 3580 06:02:14,100 --> 06:02:17,100 let's do roll call vote since trustee 3581 06:02:17,100 --> 06:02:18,100 martinez is not here. 3582 06:02:18,100 --> 06:02:19,100 >> student trustee wong? 3583 06:02:19,100 --> 06:02:20,100 >> aye. 3584 06:02:20,100 --> 06:02:21,100 >> president chisti? 3585 06:02:21,100 --> 06:02:22,100 >> aye. 3586 06:02:22,100 --> 06:02:23,100 >> trustee chung? 3587 06:02:23,100 --> 06:02:24,100 >> aye. 3588 06:02:24,100 --> 06:02:25,100 >> trustee ferguson? 3589 06:02:25,100 --> 06:02:27,100 >> aye. 3590 06:02:27,100 --> 06:02:28,100 >> trustee martinez stepped out. 3591 06:02:28,100 --> 06:02:30,100 trustee mccarty? 3592 06:02:31,100 --> 06:02:32,100 >> aye. 3593 06:02:32,100 --> 06:02:33,100 >> trustee solomon? 3594 06:02:33,100 --> 06:02:34,100 >> aye. 3595 06:02:34,100 --> 06:02:35,100 >> vice-president zamora? 3596 06:02:35,100 --> 06:02:36,100 >> aye. 3597 06:02:36,100 --> 06:02:37,100 >> motion passes. 3598 06:02:37,100 --> 06:02:38,100 >> thank you so much. 3599 06:02:38,100 --> 06:02:42,100 I know we're at 10:45, what I am 3600 06:02:42,100 --> 06:02:46,100 going to propose and if it's okay, if 3601 06:02:46,100 --> 06:02:50,100 we continue -- I know that I'm looking 3602 06:02:50,100 --> 06:02:53,100 at chair solomon here from the ad hoc 3603 06:02:53,100 --> 06:02:55,100 policy committee, if we could please 3604 06:02:55,100 --> 06:02:57,100 continue that item to the 10th meeting 3605 06:02:57,100 --> 06:02:59,100 just in the interest of time. 3606 06:02:59,100 --> 06:03:01,100 >> yeah, just everybody read it. 3607 06:03:01,100 --> 06:03:04,100 >> yes, that is everybody's homework. 3608 06:03:04,100 --> 06:03:05,100 alright. 3609 06:03:05,100 --> 06:03:07,100 so, I am going to just go ahead and 3610 06:03:07,100 --> 06:03:09,100 power us through, we're going to go 3611 06:03:09,100 --> 06:03:11,100 ahead and just do this. 3612 06:03:11,100 --> 06:03:12,100 alright. 3613 06:03:12,100 --> 06:03:14,100 so, we are done with the consent 3614 06:03:14,100 --> 06:03:15,100 agenda. 3615 06:03:15,100 --> 06:03:17,100 we are moving to the next item which 3616 06:03:17,100 --> 06:03:19,100 are a running list of items and 3617 06:03:19,100 --> 06:03:21,100 board requests, if you have a board 3618 06:03:21,100 --> 06:03:24,100 request, say it now or you can submit 3619 06:03:24,100 --> 06:03:25,100 through other means. 3620 06:03:25,100 --> 06:03:26,100 trustee solomon? 3621 06:03:26,100 --> 06:03:27,100 >> I think this 3622 06:03:27,100 --> 06:03:28,100 would be considered a board request I 3623 06:03:28,100 --> 06:03:29,100 hope. 3624 06:03:29,100 --> 06:03:31,100 I just learned that years ago, there 3625 06:03:31,100 --> 06:03:33,100 were opportunities for students to 3626 06:03:33,100 --> 06:03:35,100 find out how to register to vote and 3627 06:03:35,100 --> 06:03:38,100 even register on campus, having it 3628 06:03:38,100 --> 06:03:41,100 as an informational non-partisan item, 3629 06:03:41,100 --> 06:03:44,100 so, it would be great if we could 3630 06:03:44,100 --> 06:03:45,100 figure something out to do 3631 06:03:45,100 --> 06:03:47,100 soon, our 3632 06:03:52,100 --> 06:03:54,100 ballots here in san francisco will be 3633 06:03:54,100 --> 06:03:57,100 mailed to us by early october and 3634 06:03:57,100 --> 06:03:59,100 maybe we could put information on our 3635 06:03:59,100 --> 06:04:02,100 website, there's a really good 3636 06:04:02,100 --> 06:04:06,201 website, www .vote for 11. Org and I 3637 06:04:07,100 --> 06:04:09,100 can send this information where you 3638 06:04:09,100 --> 06:04:12,100 can just register online but making 3639 06:04:12,100 --> 06:04:14,100 sure that everybody who can vote knows 3640 06:04:14,100 --> 06:04:16,100 how to register to vote. 3641 06:04:16,100 --> 06:04:19,100 >> thank you, and I know I have my 3642 06:04:19,100 --> 06:04:21,100 first meeting with the students 3643 06:04:21,100 --> 06:04:23,100 combining up and typically our 3644 06:04:23,100 --> 06:04:24,100 associate students are the one wos do 3645 06:04:24,100 --> 06:04:26,100 these kinds of workshops so we will 3646 06:04:26,100 --> 06:04:28,100 look at the website. 3647 06:04:28,100 --> 06:04:29,100 they have layover getting the word out 3648 06:04:29,100 --> 06:04:33,100 so I will make sure -- and I'll ask 3649 06:04:33,100 --> 06:04:35,100 student trustee to remind me of that 3650 06:04:35,100 --> 06:04:37,100 topic when we meet, thank you. 3651 06:04:37,100 --> 06:04:39,100 >> alright, thank you so much. 3652 06:04:39,100 --> 06:04:42,100 alright, we are moving right along. 3653 06:04:42,100 --> 06:04:45,100 item 18, the board ad hoc committee 3654 06:04:45,100 --> 06:04:48,100 reports will be appearing at another 3655 06:04:48,100 --> 06:04:51,100 meeting date, maybe the 10th. 3656 06:04:52,100 --> 06:04:55,100 thank you for the flexibility. 3657 06:04:55,100 --> 06:04:58,100 and we are at adjournment. 3658 06:04:59,100 --> 06:05:02,100 before we have a motion the adjourn 3659 06:05:02,100 --> 06:05:06,201 the meeting, I just want to shout-out 3660 06:05:07,100 --> 06:05:09,100 susan, lucas, shawn and mr. Shemansky, 3661 06:05:09,100 --> 06:05:13,100 thank you for helping us have a very 3662 06:05:13,100 --> 06:05:14,100 smooth meeting. 3663 06:05:14,100 --> 06:05:16,100 is there a motion to adjourn the 3664 06:05:16,100 --> 06:05:17,100 meeting? 3665 06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:19,100 >> so moved. 3666 06:05:19,100 --> 06:05:22,100 >> moved by trustee mccarty, seconded 3667 06:05:23,100 --> 06:05:24,100 -- 3668 06:05:24,100 --> 06:05:25,100 >> seconded. 3669 06:05:25,100 --> 06:05:27,100 >> seconded by student trustee wong. 3670 06:05:27,100 --> 06:05:30,100 I am seeing no objection. 3671 06:05:30,100 --> 06:05:33,100 we're going to take that by acclimation. 3672 06:05:33,100 --> 06:05:36,100 we're adjourned at 10:49 p.m., thank 3673 06:05:36,100 --> 06:05:37,100 you. 3674 06:05:37,100 --> 06:05:39,100 ( meeting adjourned ).