[22:05] >> good evening.
[22:10] welcome to the thursday august 27,
[22:14] 2026 regular city college of san
[22:18] francisco board of trustees
[22:22] meeting, we are back and ready to
[22:25] rumble, we have a packed agenda
[22:27] today, so we'll jump right into it,
[22:30] welcome.
[22:31] can we please take roll?
[22:32] >> sure.
[22:34] we have student trustee wong?
[22:36] >> present.
[22:37] >> president chisti?
[22:38] >> present.
[22:40] >> trustee chung?
[22:41] >> present.
[22:42] >> trustee ferguson?
[22:43] >> present.
[22:44] >> trustee martinez?
[22:45] >> here.
[22:47] >> trustee mccarty, not here yet.
[22:49] trustee solomon?
[22:50] >> here.
[22:51] >> vice-president zamora?
[22:52] >> here.
[22:53] >> you have a quorum, president chisti.
[22:56] >> for the record, it was at 5:05, I
[23:01] convened the meeting.
[23:02] I'm going to turn it over to student
[23:03] trustee wong to help with the land
[23:05] acknowledgment statement.
[23:09] >> "we acknowledge that we are on the
[23:10] unceded ancestral homeland of the
[23:11] ramaytush ohlone who are the original
[23:12] inhabitants of the san francisco
[23:13] peninsula, as the indigenous stewards
[23:14] of this land and in accordance with
[23:15] their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone
[23:16] have never ceded, lost nor forgotten
[23:17] their responsibilities as the
[23:18] caretakers of this place, as well as
[23:19] for all peoples who reside in their
[23:20] traditional territory, as guests, we
[23:21] recognize that we benefit from living
[23:22] and working on their traditional
[23:23] homeland, we wish to pay our respects
[23:24] by acknowledging the ancestors, elders
[23:25] and relatives of the ramaytush
[23:26] community and by affirming their
[23:27] sovereign rights as first peoples."
[23:42] >> thank you so much.
[23:45] okay.
[23:46] before I ask my colleagues for a
[23:48] motion to adjourn to closed session, I
[23:52] would like to call public comment on
[23:55] the closed session agenda which is 1a,
[23:59] 2a, 3a, 5a, 6a1.
[24:02] any public comment?
[24:03] >> there's no public comment on the
[24:05] closed session agenda.
[24:09] >> wonderful, colleagues, can I have a
[24:11] motion to adjourn to closed session?
[24:12] >> so moved.
[24:14] >> moved by v.p. Zamora.
[24:16] >> seconded.
[24:17] >> seconded by trustee ferguson.
[24:20] seeing no further discussion, could we
[24:22] please take roll.
[24:24] >> student trustee campos -- I mean wong?
[24:25] >> aye.
[24:27] >> sorry, you just resemble her.
[24:28] trustee chisti?
[24:31] >> aye.
[24:33] >> can I have some information,
[24:36] president chisti, is this what it
[24:39] looks like on the website because it
[24:42] doesn't list any of the agenda items?
[24:44] >> when you can click on the link.
[24:45] >> aye.
[24:47] >> thank you.
[24:49] >> trustee ferguson?
[24:50] >> aye.
[24:52] >> trustee martinez?
[24:53] >> yes.
[24:55] >> trustee mccarty, not quite here yet.
[24:56] trustee solomon?
[24:57] >> yes.
[24:59] >> vice-president zamora?
[25:00] >> aye.
[25:01] >> thank you.
[25:02] motion passes.
[25:03] >> alright, it is passed without
[25:04] objection, we are estimating we are
[25:07] adjourned to closed session with an
[25:09] estimated return time with an
[25:14] ambitious 7 p.m., thank you very much.
[25:17] (meeting adjourned to closed session).
[3:30:29] >> okay, I am reconvening the board
[3:30:32] from closed seg at 8:14 p.m. Moving
[3:30:42] along to reportable actions taken in
[3:30:43] closed session.
[3:30:44] before we do that, we know the closed
[3:30:45] session ran a bit long, thank you to
[3:30:47] the members of the public for your
[3:30:49] patience as we conferred over several
[3:30:52] items in closed session.
[3:30:54] there were reportable actions taken in
[3:30:57] closed session and I will read three
[3:31:00] reportable actions that were taken.
[3:31:02] the first is the board voted to amend
[3:31:06] the chancellor's contract to allow for
[3:31:09] a rolling three year contract based on
[3:31:12] a satisfactory evaluation from the
[3:31:15] board, the vote was 5 in favor and 2
[3:31:20] against.
[3:31:21] the second item is in the matter of
[3:31:24] anymore versus ccsf, the board
[3:31:28] unanimously voted in favor of
[3:31:30] approving the segment agreement.
[3:31:31] and the third reportable action is in
[3:31:35] the matter of e. Reyes v. Ccsf,
[3:31:39] the board voted unanimously in
[3:31:44] approving the settlement agreement.
[3:31:46] I'm going to move us along to the
[3:31:49] next item which is the notice of
[3:31:51] decorum, our meeting will be in
[3:31:55] accordance to bp1.12 and make sure
[3:31:57] that we maintain decorum at our board
[3:32:00] meeting.
[3:32:01] we're going to go to the next item
[3:32:03] which is public comment for items no
[3:32:06] on the agenda.
[3:32:08] mr. Shimanski, do we have any public
[3:32:10] comment not on the agenda?
[3:32:12] >> we do, we have a total of 11 this
[3:32:15] evening.
[3:32:16] >> if you can call three at a time
[3:32:18] and members of the public, if you
[3:32:20] could be close to the microphone or be
[3:32:22] ready when you hear your name so we
[3:32:24] can keep the pace.
[3:32:25] >> salute.
[3:32:35] first is james a. Bryant.
[3:32:40] mr. Bryant, when you step to the
[3:32:43] podium, please be sure to turn on
[3:32:46] the mic.
[3:32:56] >> if you could please turn on your
[3:33:02] mic., and then let's go ahead and
[3:33:04] start the clock, thank you.
[3:33:06] >> thank you, this is a certificate of
[3:33:11] completion for construction management
[3:33:15] protocol classes here at city college.
[3:33:20] I wanted to first of all let you know
[3:33:24] this group of gentlemen and this lady
[3:33:28] were from the bayview hunter's point.
[3:33:32] we have one college that represents us
[3:33:36] at city college and that's the evans
[3:33:39] campus, that is currently being
[3:33:44] reconstructed.
[3:33:50] on tuesday, the three of us and this
[3:33:54] young man, the four of us plus one
[3:33:58] other gentleman went to the campus
[3:34:02] because we obviously see there's
[3:34:04] construction going on.
[3:34:06] these gentlemen are all contractors.
[3:34:09] they are not getting any work from
[3:34:13] city college, not only out here where
[3:34:16] we see that city college is doing a
[3:34:18] lot of great things in developing and
[3:34:22] building but in the heart of where we
[3:34:26] live in hunter's point, there is no --
[3:34:29] not one person that is part of that
[3:34:32] construction that is of the sense of
[3:34:38] home owners and taxpayers and business
[3:34:44] conductors in this city at bayview
[3:34:48] hunter's point and we are -- so, we
[3:34:53] approached the contractor and we asked
[3:34:57] one thing, we said, could we have your
[3:34:59] card because we would like to find out
[3:35:01] if we could be part of any development
[3:35:05] that you do because we have plumbers,
[3:35:10] we have construction crews and we have
[3:35:14] painters, we have all kinds of
[3:35:18] individuals that obviously need to be
[3:35:21] part of an opportunity.
[3:35:27] >> we will have to --
[3:35:30] >> I hear your thing but I want to
[3:35:32] finish, okay.
[3:35:33] this is a college that I've been part
[3:35:35] of.
[3:35:36] >> I'm sorry, your time is up, if you
[3:35:38] could please wrap up your points, your
[3:35:41] time is up.
[3:35:42] >> can I give him my minutes?
[3:35:45] >> he can have mine.
[3:35:47] >> so, thank you.
[3:35:48] >> if you would like to sign up
[3:35:51] separately for public comment --
[3:35:52] >> there are two public comments --
[3:35:56] shawn, can you pause the bell,
[3:35:58] please, there are two public comments
[3:36:00] that are in reference to this, the
[3:36:02] other one I believe is demetrius
[3:36:08] williams.
[3:36:10] >> and alphonso.
[3:36:13] >> yes, we have all written letters
[3:36:15] to the chancellor.
[3:36:16] so, I ask for your appreciation on
[3:36:19] that, I'm a 70 year-old gentleman that
[3:36:23] may not be as fast as some of you
[3:36:26] youngsters, so I'm going to be
[3:36:28] articulate and take my time and not be
[3:36:30] looking like a fool, okay.
[3:36:33] I spent a lot of years here at this
[3:36:37] college.
[3:36:38] if you don't know me, I'm james
[3:36:41] bryant, in 1998, I closed this college
[3:36:45] down on strike, all nine campuses.
[3:36:47] I am the representative formally of
[3:36:54] seiu790 and here as a proud number,
[3:36:57] not only am I a graduate here, I'm
[3:37:00] also a former police officer.
[3:37:05] so I'm very respective with whoever we
[3:37:07] work with, so when we met with you all
[3:37:10] with the staff that was at the
[3:37:14] college, the contractor, they called
[3:37:18] us thugs.
[3:37:20] we don't deserve that, not one of us
[3:37:23] deserve that.
[3:37:24] what we do deserve is to have an
[3:37:26] opportunity to be part of the build
[3:37:30] of this college because we all have
[3:37:33] spent many years in making san
[3:37:35] francisco better and we hope that we
[3:37:37] can have a relationship with this
[3:37:43] great school, I call it great because
[3:37:45] as a kid grew up in the university
[3:37:49] michigan in ann arbor, michigan, city
[3:37:52] college of san francisco was always
[3:37:54] the heart of me as a kid because it
[3:37:57] was the biggest city college in the
[3:38:00] history of the state of california
[3:38:02] and you have to respect that if you
[3:38:05] don't, I just waned to tell you that.
[3:38:08] we're all here, we want an
[3:38:10] opportunity and we need you all board
[3:38:12] members to help support us.
[3:38:13] anything else?
[3:38:22] >> good afternoon, thank you, guys,
[3:38:25] for having us.
[3:38:29] >> we really do need to wrap it up.
[3:38:37] >> are there three speakers?
[3:38:39] >> I only have two speakers.
[3:38:40] >> I was the third one.
[3:38:42] >> okay.
[3:38:43] >> he got my minutes.
[3:38:45] >> okay, sorry, we have to follow
[3:38:48] protocol for public comment, so my
[3:38:52] understanding is that can -- so, let's
[3:38:56] go ahead and -- I think I'm -- maybe
[3:38:59] if I could take this public comment or
[3:39:01] are you allocating your time to this
[3:39:04] person here?
[3:39:05] >> yes.
[3:39:06] >> okay, so that's what we're going to
[3:39:08] do, so go ahead.
[3:39:09] >> good afternoon, thank you, and I
[3:39:11] appreciate you guys time.
[3:39:12] my name is demetrius williams, the
[3:39:19] building local trades collective, we
[3:39:22] are basically a variety of contractors
[3:39:24] out of bayview district 10.
[3:39:27] on august 25, we went over to your
[3:39:30] ccsf campus and was addressed as thugs
[3:39:35] like james bryant said, told to get
[3:39:40] out of our neighbor, off of our campus
[3:39:44] by giant construction.
[3:39:47] we felt hue militated in our own
[3:39:48] backyard, we felt like we didn't
[3:39:49] belong and we are from bayview
[3:39:53] hunter's point, we reside there, we
[3:39:55] bank there, our contracting companies
[3:39:59] are in bayview hunter's point, we meet
[3:40:02] everybody tuesday 8 a.m. At the 1450
[3:40:06] evans campus at bayview hunter's point.
[3:40:11] our whole reason for being here is not
[3:40:13] to try to shut down the campus which
[3:40:17] we almost did, we want to try to get
[3:40:19] some type of help from this board to
[3:40:22] let the giant construction know that
[3:40:24] it's not okay to look at nobody's
[3:40:26] nationality and consider them to be
[3:40:28] nothing other than community
[3:40:31] contractors.
[3:40:32] I wouldn't put nobody down in here, I
[3:40:34] would lift everybody up.
[3:40:37] if it wasn't the right way to do it,
[3:40:39] we should have been told the proper
[3:40:41] procedures on how to get contractors,
[3:40:43] not to be labeled at or looked at and
[3:40:46] then be called the police upon to make
[3:40:49] us feel like we were going something
[3:40:53] illegal or long, all we were doing is
[3:40:55] coming to just speak to get
[3:40:56] information and speak to them and
[3:40:58] figure out how did you -- brother rose
[3:41:01] and myself did a job walk over at the
[3:41:05] ccsf campus and didn't hear anything
[3:41:07] back about our bids, we just want to
[3:41:09] do business, we don't want to be no
[3:41:12] burden and we want to be looked at.
[3:41:13] >> that was four months --
[3:41:17] >> one second, in terms of protocol,
[3:41:18] there are four of you, so, but there's
[3:41:22] four people that would like to provide
[3:41:25] public comment or --
[3:41:26] >> can I say something, I put in an
[3:41:29] e-mail, have you gotten a copy of
[3:41:30] it, I put in an e-mail in april 19
[3:41:34] to inquire like who won the contract
[3:41:36] and all that, so I didn't get a
[3:41:39] response back until four months later
[3:41:42] and then once you guys gave me the
[3:41:44] information, we went over there
[3:41:46] just to get a business card.
[3:41:48] and they was from out of oakland, all
[3:41:50] we asked for was just a business card
[3:41:53] and that was a problem so, we're just
[3:41:55] bringing to you guys, hopefully you
[3:41:58] guys can do something about it bah
[3:42:00] we're trying to go about it the right
[3:42:02] way.
[3:42:03] if you don't do nothing about it, we
[3:42:05] have to do something about it as far
[3:42:09] as shutting the job down as far as
[3:42:13] following the right protocol.
[3:42:15] >>.if you want to provide further
[3:42:17] comments, you can submit it.
[3:42:18] >> can we continue?
[3:42:20] >> leslie smith is next followed by
[3:42:23] crystal luis followed by evangela
[3:42:26] brewster.
[3:42:27] >> good evening, I really hope that
[3:42:29] everyone is focused on the concept of
[3:42:33] ccsf having a structural deficit.
[3:42:35] that has never happened before.
[3:42:37] what is that?
[3:42:39] that means that your revenues are less
[3:42:42] than your expenditures.
[3:42:43] and the only way to resolve that is to
[3:42:46] make a policy change.
[3:42:47] there's only one policy change that
[3:42:49] will solve the problem and that is
[3:42:52] enrollment growth.
[3:42:55] so, what's city college doing about
[3:42:58] that?
[3:42:59] well, it's starting an educational
[3:43:01] strategic plan this fall.
[3:43:04] and the hearings will begin and the
[3:43:06] work group will begin on monday.
[3:43:08] so, we need to make sure that that
[3:43:12] strategic plan addresses this massive
[3:43:15] failure to the people of san francisco
[3:43:18] and we -- and to the state.
[3:43:21] this is a state institution.
[3:43:24] we need to make sure that we're
[3:43:27] serving every single zip code, that
[3:43:29] we're serving the students when they
[3:43:31] want to be served.
[3:43:32] I hear that weekends and evening
[3:43:35] classes just aren't available.
[3:43:36] we need to document and we need to
[3:43:39] change how we work.
[3:43:41] we need the rebuild all of our
[3:43:44] facilities.
[3:43:45] we went out for a bind, we got 155
[3:43:51] million dollars, why is alemany closed?
[3:43:57] why is downtown closed?
[3:43:59] you have so many students needing
[3:44:01] classes.
[3:44:02] there's a lot of work to be done, you
[3:44:04] have a strategic plan, use it.
[3:44:06] >> thank you, leslie.
[3:44:07] crystal luis?
[3:44:15] >> my name is crystal luis, an esl
[3:44:21] faculty member and an esl coordinator,
[3:44:26] prior to scheduling ceasing a
[3:44:27] downtown, there was not a publicly
[3:44:30] available steady of
[3:44:33] scheduling, attendance, staffing,
[3:44:35] resources, operational hours, deferred
[3:44:38] maintenance, grant expenditures and
[3:44:39] compliance and equitable access at
[3:44:42] downtown or similar studies at other
[3:44:44] district locations.
[3:44:45] the chancellor has identified the
[3:44:48] facilities and educational strategic
[3:44:50] task force for this sort of research
[3:44:51] yet there have been no agenda or
[3:44:54] meetings open to public comment as of
[3:44:57] yet.
[3:44:58] meanwhile the academic senate has
[3:45:00] unanimously approved a resolution
[3:45:01] calling for a process through the
[3:45:04] participatory governance process.
[3:45:05] processes for the outcome of downtown
[3:45:08] have not yet been put into action.
[3:45:10] the decision to cease scheduling
[3:45:12] at downtown was made without the
[3:45:17] research participatory governance
[3:45:18] process, deliberation and alternate
[3:45:20] plans needed to inform such a decision.
[3:45:24] additionally, the district amassed a
[3:45:26] 27 million dollar surplus in one year
[3:45:29] as it collected hold harmless funding
[3:45:32] while curtailing growth of needed
[3:45:34] classes.
[3:45:35] by sitting on a budget surplus and
[3:45:37] shuttering buildings at city college
[3:45:39] programs, we are not meeting the needs
[3:45:42] of students, not fulfilling our
[3:45:44] mission and not acknowledging the will
[3:45:46] of san francisco voters.
[3:45:49] I'm requesting that downtown be
[3:45:51] included on upcoming board agenda
[3:45:54] regularly and immediately with
[3:45:56] discussion from administering impacted
[3:46:00] groups with transparent and timely
[3:46:01] posting of documents and
[3:46:06] research.
[3:46:07] thank you for your time.
[3:46:08] >> thank you, crystal.
[3:46:10] next is evangela brewster, she's not
[3:46:14] online, I'm going to move on to derek
[3:46:20] lack, followed by rosario followed by
[3:46:24] michael medina-snider.
[3:46:25] >> hello.
[3:46:31] good evening, board of trustees, my
[3:46:33] name is derrick, I work in the mayor's
[3:46:39] office, I'm also deeply involved with
[3:46:43] connie chang running for congress and
[3:46:46] technically I don't get paid.
[3:46:49] if you really want to get into
[3:46:52] technical detail, I work as a
[3:46:55] temporary staffer, it's minimum
[3:46:58] wage for the chase center so I'll be
[3:47:05] representing levi stadium and sofi as
[3:47:10] well, there's so much information to
[3:47:14] talk about here, the first minute, I
[3:47:16] told you what I did and the last
[3:47:20] minute, I want to tell you my history
[3:47:24] on what my association of city college
[3:47:27] and going forward, of course I will be
[3:47:31] making a major grant on behalf of the
[3:47:33] mayor for the city college, so madam
[3:47:39] mueller and I are very close
[3:47:42] associates, she's the first person to
[3:47:44] work in the arts department and james
[3:47:47] mcfadden is the second person.
[3:47:48] I volunteered to teach as a piano
[3:47:52] teaching assistant for james mcfadden
[3:47:55] for 2004 to 2006 and I'm a student of
[3:48:00] david yee but he forgot about that.
[3:48:03] I'm also a student of lawrence
[3:48:07] forever, he passed away last year, I'm
[3:48:15] disheartened that lawrence passed
[3:48:17] away, his teaching really influenced
[3:48:20] me especially that he's gone, I'm
[3:48:23] planning to come back more and more
[3:48:26] and you'll get to know who I am and
[3:48:27] what I'll be doing for the future of
[3:48:29] city college.
[3:48:30] thank you.
[3:48:31] >> thank you very much, derrick.
[3:48:36] rosario, she is online.
[3:48:39] >> hello, can you hear me?
[3:48:40] >> yes.
[3:48:41] >> yes.
[3:48:42] hi, thank you for taking the time to
[3:48:44] hear from child development and family
[3:48:46] studies.
[3:48:47] I wanted to encourage that steps be
[3:48:50] taken for clear and consistent
[3:48:53] communication around the construction.
[3:48:55] of course we are excited to have
[3:48:58] construction happening but our child
[3:48:59] care spaces have been greatly impacted.
[3:49:02] both the sealed classroom child care
[3:49:05] observation room at ocean campus and
[3:49:07] the one at jo john adams have had an
[3:49:10] extreme amount of dust requiring extra
[3:49:12] time from faculty to clean up.
[3:49:15] ocean, you already know about the
[3:49:17] parking fiasco there.
[3:49:18] at john adams, faculty tried to find
[3:49:20] out when they could get into their
[3:49:22] classroom to clean it up and fix it
[3:49:24] up, for those of you don't know, our
[3:49:27] child observations classes have
[3:49:31] children crawling on the floor,
[3:49:33] putting things in their mouths.
[3:49:37] they didn't get any response to know
[3:49:39] when she could go and clean up.
[3:49:42] she had to take a day off to go in
[3:49:46] person and the dean did give her some
[3:49:50] information.
[3:49:51] she wasn't able to get enough time to
[3:49:52] go in there to clean and had to draft
[3:49:54] or volunteer her son to go in and they
[3:49:57] spent a couple of days cleaning the
[3:49:58] place so the saw dust and the dust
[3:50:00] could be removed so the room could be
[3:50:02] ready for the children.
[3:50:07] additionally the space at john adams
[3:50:09] lost our parking.
[3:50:10] we've always had dedicated parking for
[3:50:11] their families who have to come in
[3:50:13] with strollers and who have to unload
[3:50:16] things.
[3:50:17] the faculty usually have to unload
[3:50:18] things for the classroom.
[3:50:19] we have always had parking there with
[3:50:22] signs posted and on the ground and on
[3:50:25] the side of the building.
[3:50:27] we would like to request that those
[3:50:29] parking spots dedicated for the child
[3:50:31] care space be returned and that the
[3:50:34] construction company do everything
[3:50:35] possible to close up the windows,
[3:50:38] perhaps glue or put something on that
[3:50:40] so the dust doesn't come in.
[3:50:45] it's really created a workload for the
[3:50:47] faculty.
[3:50:48] thank you.
[3:50:49] >> thank you very much, rosario.
[3:50:52] next is michael medina smiled followed
[3:50:55] by michael adams and lastly is lydia
[3:50:58] hernandez.
[3:50:59] >> I have a good report to say
[3:51:02] tonight on the student health center.
[3:51:04] I love to talk about it.
[3:51:06] tonight I would like to recognize the
[3:51:08] important milestone for city college
[3:51:09] of san francisco, the 20th anniversary
[3:51:12] of student health which opened on
[3:51:14] august 18, 2006.
[3:51:16] but there's more to the story of
[3:51:17] student health and where it began.
[3:51:19] the original student health center was
[3:51:23] a single room in the basement of the
[3:51:25] science room or building.
[3:51:27] essentially a first station staffed by
[3:51:29] a part time registered nurse.
[3:51:31] as the needs of our students grew,
[3:51:33] student health moved into the
[3:51:36] bungalows where nurse asks counselors
[3:51:37] cared for students often with limited
[3:51:39] space and resources.
[3:51:41] one person who refused to accept this
[3:51:43] was our former dean and my hero and
[3:51:47] mentor assistant dean sonny clark
[3:51:48] which I think most of you know.
[3:51:53] sonny understood ccsf deserved more than
[3:51:55] basic first aid, she envisioned a
[3:51:57] comprehensive college where students
[3:52:00] could receive critical mental health
[3:52:02] services here on campus.
[3:52:04] she advocated for that vision and
[3:52:07] attended facility meetings, documented
[3:52:11] deteriorating bungalows, advocated for
[3:52:12] clinical services and staffing and
[3:52:14] continued to push until the dream of
[3:52:16] the new facility became reality.
[3:52:18] sonny didn't advocate for the build,
[3:52:20] she helped envision, design and fight
[3:52:21] for it.
[3:52:22] she watched the construction rise from
[3:52:24] ground to remain involved through the
[3:52:26] entire process.
[3:52:27] as this building became possible
[3:52:29] because of others believing in the
[3:52:31] vision too, I want to recognize the
[3:52:33] voters of san francisco whose approval
[3:52:36] of the 2001 educational facilities
[3:52:41] improvement bond made that possible.
[3:52:42] I want to recognize councilwoman nancy
[3:52:46] pelosi who helped secure funding for
[3:52:52] the equipment.
[3:52:53] at the dedication, she said the
[3:52:58] students at city college of san
[3:53:00] francisco are our future leaders.
[3:53:05] 20 years later, those words still
[3:53:07] describe the purpose of this building,
[3:53:08] today the student health center
[3:53:10] provides medical care, mental health,
[3:53:14] preventive immunization care,
[3:53:16] education cal and clinical health care.
[3:53:19] it provides a place where students can
[3:53:23] come -- I had to wait for you for two
[3:53:26] hours here.
[3:53:29] they simply need someone to help them,
[3:53:31] the work didn't stop there and it
[3:53:33] continues ongoing.
[3:53:34] I want to say that we had to wait
[3:53:36] three hours for you all tonight and as
[3:53:40] constituent leaders as well as the
[3:53:42] public, we shouldn't have to wait for
[3:53:43] that, there was an hour promised to
[3:53:46] you us and we went back to the old
[3:53:48] ways of things and this is an
[3:53:49] appropriate way to conduct a meeting.
[3:53:50] >> thank you, michael.
[3:53:53] michael adams, please.
[3:53:54] michael adams will be followed by
[3:53:56] lydia hernandez.
[3:54:00] >> thank you, hello, everyone.
[3:54:04] I apologize, I didn't make enough
[3:54:07] copies but I'm going to hand these
[3:54:09] around and hope you can work out
[3:54:12] copying what you need.
[3:54:14] I'm coming as a licensed airplane
[3:54:17] pilot and I'm wearing a hat that is
[3:54:20] dedicated to the mechanics would work
[3:54:23] on airplanes that we fly and that we
[3:54:25] hope and pray have done their work in
[3:54:28] order for us to have safe landings.
[3:54:33] I'm sure you all have heard about the
[3:54:36] shortage of aircraft mechanics in our
[3:54:39] country and especially in the high
[3:54:44] risk aviation environments like the
[3:54:45] bay area, one of the highest risk
[3:54:48] rated places in the world.
[3:54:49] and the fact that we are short of
[3:54:55] aircraft mechanics while the aircraft
[3:54:57] mechanic program at city college is
[3:55:01] shut down temporarily as we see on the
[3:55:04] catalogue and that there are waist
[3:55:06] waiting lists and the college in
[3:55:08] alameda is full to the brim and that
[3:55:14] has to turn people away, at least
[3:55:16] thee running classes and awaiting this
[3:55:20] is hopeful as opposed to folks here
[3:55:23] who see that message on the website
[3:55:26] that says until further notice,
[3:55:29] classes are closed.
[3:55:30] we don't know what's really behind it.
[3:55:32] what I sent you around are two stories
[3:55:35] I offer as not in the imagination
[3:55:38] about what could happen but as a
[3:55:41] report of what did happen to me.
[3:55:43] I had to land an airplane in the fog
[3:55:47] on the hillside among cows and pigs
[3:55:51] and trees and it was because of the
[3:55:53] mechanics that that airplane behaved
[3:55:55] properly so I could get down and come
[3:55:57] here and visit with you.
[3:55:59] the other story is you'll see the
[3:56:03] other picture of a plane upside down
[3:56:05] which got that way because a mechanic
[3:56:11] left off a hair pin piece the size of
[3:56:12] a hair pin because the throttle broke
[3:56:17] and the airplane had to make a landing
[3:56:20] and flipped over, fortunately nobody
[3:56:25] perished.
[3:56:27] >> thank you, michael.
[3:56:28] >> thank you for listening and please
[3:56:29] look at the information, these are
[3:56:30] real stories about what could happen
[3:56:32] and what did happen.
[3:56:33] >> thank you, lydia hernandez.
[3:56:44] >> good evening, broader of trustees,
[3:56:46] my name is lydia hernandez and I'm
[3:56:48] serving as the mission campus
[3:56:53] associated students president, I come
[3:56:55] here tonight to speak with you about
[3:56:57] the gaining lack of resources and
[3:57:02] class spaces for our vulnerable
[3:57:05] neighborhood centers that have a deep
[3:57:09] equity crisis tied to how this college
[3:57:11] has treated this population.
[3:57:12] for years we've watched as a troubling
[3:57:18] historical pattern, our budgets are
[3:57:21] reorganized, our non-credit students
[3:57:22] are the first to be displaced.
[3:57:24] they are given promises they will have
[3:57:26] enough classes, they were given
[3:57:28] promises of clipper cards, of shuttle,
[3:57:32] they're given promises of counseling
[3:57:34] and it's not happening, there's half
[3:57:38] day counseling, no counseling, there's
[3:57:40] half day child care.
[3:57:41] there is not the support services at
[3:57:44] all that ocean campus has and these
[3:57:47] are a population that need more
[3:57:50] support, that's equity.
[3:57:51] we know that is equity, we know
[3:57:54] these are students that are struggling
[3:57:57] and this college has been treating
[3:58:01] them like pawns on a chess board
[3:58:02] thinking they can move them
[3:58:04] around and it's an open door for a
[3:58:06] student is not the same as it is not
[3:58:08] the same as a place of education where
[3:58:13] they can thrive and have community.
[3:58:15] we saw in downtown they had community,
[3:58:17] I know john adams had that community
[3:58:20] and we have time and time again left
[3:58:23] these students without the support
[3:58:25] that they need and I'm telling you,
[3:58:27] they're not having the classes, they
[3:58:28] are not having the support, they're
[3:58:32] jammed 75 students in a class, 45
[3:58:35] students in a class without desks and
[3:58:38] they're still coming, okay.
[3:58:39] but guess what, then we wonder why
[3:58:44] doesn't enrollment go up, guess what,
[3:58:46] it's not fun when you have to deal with
[3:58:48] that and they're not getting the
[3:58:50] support and they don't have the
[3:58:52] services at all.
[3:58:53] >> thank you, lydia.
[3:58:55] that concludes public comment,
[3:58:56] president chisti?
[3:59:00] >> alright, public comment on items
[3:59:02] not on the agenda is now closed.
[3:59:03] I'm going to move us along which I
[3:59:04] believe is to the constituent reports.
[3:59:09] starting with our -- go ahead, if you
[3:59:11] could please call the first item.
[3:59:13] >> 5a is the student chancellor's
[3:59:15] report.
[3:59:16] this is sofia flores-guevara, she's be
[3:59:21] joining us remotely, I believe, sofia?
[3:59:24] >> hello, yes, good evening.
[3:59:26] my name is sofia flores-guevara, I am
[3:59:29] pleased to be with you guys here today.
[3:59:34] I apologize for being on the road at
[3:59:38] the moment, but I didn't know when you
[3:59:40] guys were going to come back.
[3:59:42] some of the reports consist of -- one
[3:59:49] second -- so, emphasizing on what ms.
[3:59:53] lydia has spoken on, marginalized
[3:59:55] communities at our mission and
[3:59:57] chinatown and john adams campuses
[3:59:59] struggling with tech and language
[4:00:01] barriers and it affecting their
[4:00:04] enrollment or registration status, we
[4:00:05] need to fix this, who can I talk to as
[4:00:10] to who we're already in the second
[4:00:12] week of school.
[4:00:14] as well as them needing basic needs
[4:00:17] covered, but limited access to
[4:00:20] resources in comparison to ocean and
[4:00:22] as I've talked to some of these
[4:00:24] students, basic things as snacks or
[4:00:27] access to calworks or tampons for
[4:00:34] women.
[4:00:35] second report, lab a budget was not
[4:00:39] announced.
[4:00:40] when, why, who did this and how?
[4:00:42] students had no knowledge, is this
[4:00:44] because they were trying to create a
[4:00:46] union is one of the questions that was
[4:00:50] arise.
[4:00:51] I did want to announce that tomorrow
[4:00:52] we have a meeting, our first executive
[4:00:55] council meeting at 1 p.m., it will be
[4:00:58] in the room 2101 in the student
[4:01:02] success building, please
[4:01:05] join us so we can make these decisions
[4:01:09] and, you know, the other thing that's
[4:01:12] being mentioned is that students are
[4:01:14] losing their financial aid because
[4:01:16] they have 120 units and are getting
[4:01:19] cut off because they're maxed out.
[4:01:22] so my question is what -- can there be
[4:01:26] a solution and if so, what is it?
[4:01:36] lastly, this is before last, my
[4:01:40] apologies, the new ccsf app is not
[4:01:43] working and it's supposed to be
[4:01:47] simpler to use but too basic because
[4:01:50] we can't really do much on it and as
[4:01:53] we're trying to register and have all
[4:01:56] these other financial problems and
[4:01:59] tech problems, there's the enrollment
[4:02:00] issue, right.
[4:02:02] so, instead of it being more
[4:02:05] supportive, it's kind of hurting our
[4:02:11] situation because it's a software
[4:02:14] issue, right.
[4:02:17] lastly is the native american class
[4:02:20] doesn't count for transfer and we're
[4:02:23] trying to create a department, we
[4:02:25] already have a club in place, you
[4:02:27] know, we have a land acknowledgment
[4:02:29] for each and every meeting but no
[4:02:33] department and we want to see that our
[4:02:38] uniters count towards something.
[4:02:40] that's it, sorry, tried to keep it
[4:02:42] very short.
[4:02:43] >> thank you very much, student
[4:02:48] chancellor guevara, we'll move on to
[4:02:49] 5b which is the student trustee
[4:02:51] report, this is student trustee ian
[4:02:53] wong.
[4:02:55] >> good evening, as we begin the fall
[4:02:58] semester, I've been getting our
[4:03:01] executive council's meetings up and
[4:03:03] running, this friday will be the first
[4:03:04] meeting this semester and I'm looking
[4:03:06] forward to bringing our student
[4:03:07] leaders together and getting started
[4:03:08] on the work ahead of us.
[4:03:10] a couple of weeks a I also had the
[4:03:12] opportunity to attend the student
[4:03:14] trustee convention in burlingame, that
[4:03:16] was a great experience meeting other
[4:03:19] trustees across california, hearing
[4:03:21] about the issues they are facing and
[4:03:25] hearing how different colleges
[4:03:27] approach different advocacy.
[4:03:28] I had an opportunity to speak with the
[4:03:29] leaders of the california league, as a
[4:03:34] quick update on the free city college
[4:03:39] committee, I attended the committee
[4:03:40] meeting last week, while funding has
[4:03:41] been secured for this year, the
[4:03:42] committee will continue working to
[4:03:43] ensure that future students have
[4:03:44] access to the same funding and
[4:03:46] opportunities.
[4:03:47] on the student side, multiple students
[4:03:49] have raised questions regarding on
[4:03:52] campus job opportunities, library
[4:03:53] positions and their funding.
[4:03:55] students have been asking what
[4:03:57] happened to their funding for these
[4:03:58] positions and what it means for
[4:04:02] library opportunities across the
[4:04:04] campus, some have requested funding
[4:04:07] from associated positions.
[4:04:10] asco is operating with a budget
[4:04:12] deficit of approximately 200 thousand
[4:04:14] dollars while associate student
[4:04:17] funding comes from student dollars,
[4:04:19] this raises appropriate source for lab
[4:04:21] aid positions and whether associated
[4:04:24] students should be [inaudible] that
[4:04:28] serve the broader college community.
[4:04:30] this has been a recurring concern of
[4:04:35] students, and they will continue to be
[4:04:36] followed as the semester progresses.
[4:04:39] those are my main updates, thank you.
[4:04:42] >> thank you.
[4:04:43] next is 5c, it's the academic senate
[4:04:48] president's report, katia fuchs will
[4:04:50] be presenting the report to the board.
[4:04:55] >> good evening, trustees, chancellor
[4:04:58] messina, college community.
[4:04:59] happy fall semester.
[4:05:01] I don't speak only for myself when I
[4:05:03] say the buzz of the new academic year
[4:05:06] is thrilling and it's really wonderful
[4:05:10] to see students on our campus eager
[4:05:12] to start or continue their academic
[4:05:14] journeys.
[4:05:15] it's a pleasure to be giving my first
[4:05:17] in-person report to you as academic
[4:05:20] senate president this academic year.
[4:05:23] I'm grateful to lillian and fanny law
[4:05:26] for delivering my board reports in may
[4:05:29] and june when I was recovering from
[4:05:32] surgery.
[4:05:33] since you asked, my surgery was a
[4:05:34] success and the recovery gave me a lot
[4:05:37] of opportunity for quiet reflection,
[4:05:41] it's easy to be quiet when your jaws
[4:05:44] are wired shut n. This reflection, I
[4:05:47] realized even though the surgery led
[4:05:48] to a positive outcome and it's already
[4:05:51] improved the daily function in the
[4:05:52] quality of my life, it required me and
[4:05:54] those close to me to be gracious and
[4:05:57] compassionate as I slowly
[4:06:00] regained my ability to participate
[4:06:02] fully.
[4:06:03] this struck me as a great metaphor and
[4:06:06] guiding principle in my work here at
[4:06:07] the college that when we make
[4:06:09] decisions and plans for change and
[4:06:11] improvement, we must factor into our
[4:06:14] processes a certain compassion and
[4:06:17] grace for adjusting to those changes
[4:06:20] as we see them lead to positive
[4:06:23] outcomes to our college and our
[4:06:26] students.
[4:06:27] allowed this me forto guide me as I
[4:06:30] participated in the academic senate
[4:06:32] orientation, it happens in august
[4:06:33] every year and our wonderful second
[4:06:37] vice-president fanny law put on an
[4:06:40] enjoyable event, we're thrilled to
[4:06:41] have a coun of 19 faculty this
[4:06:46] academic year, we have faculty who
[4:06:48] teach both full and part time, credit
[4:06:51] and non-credit, academic and service
[4:06:53] faculty and faculty who are based
[4:06:55] primarily on cam pus outside of ocean.
[4:06:58] we're also excited to welcome faculty
[4:07:01] who have never served on the council
[4:07:03] before, that we have yet to have an
[4:07:06] official business meet, we got to
[4:07:08] experience some excellent discussion
[4:07:09] as councilmembers learned about the
[4:07:10] role of the academic senate and
[4:07:13] college governance.
[4:07:14] one example we used when talking about
[4:07:17] the important role of the senate was
[4:07:21] to suspend the [inaudible] beginning
[4:07:26] this academic year.
[4:07:27] this decision was the result of a
[4:07:28] deeply robust conversation that
[4:07:29] spanned the entirety of last academic
[4:07:31] year involving participation from
[4:07:33] every constituency group at the
[4:07:34] college leading to a result that we
[4:07:37] hope will truly benefit students and
[4:07:38] faculty alike.
[4:07:40] with the orientation behind us, we're
[4:07:42] working to finalize our first business
[4:07:44] agenda of the year on september 9 and
[4:07:46] we look forward to be robustly
[4:07:49] discussing comprehensive program
[4:07:51] review and our program review
[4:07:53] coordinator will be leading us in what
[4:07:56] will be a rich discussion on how to
[4:07:58] make this process a meaningful one.
[4:08:00] I'll be sure to report more on it as
[4:08:02] it goes on and thank you for your time.
[4:08:08] >> next is 5d, the classified senate
[4:08:13] president's report, this is president
[4:08:17] michael medina-snider.
[4:08:18] >> we didn't have our first meeting
[4:08:20] yet because we just mad the plenary,
[4:08:22] our first official meeting will be
[4:08:24] next month, september 15, but we did
[4:08:27] have the plenary where we
[4:08:30] thanked the chancellor for coming and
[4:08:32] swearing in our new elected officials,
[4:08:35] we have our parliamentarian kathy as
[4:08:39] the vice-president and then senator
[4:08:44] vashali, enrique, rudy, shanell,
[4:08:47] susie, alex and charles and many of
[4:08:49] these are new people.
[4:08:50] I want to also thank elaina wong,
[4:08:56] david delgado for their dedication and
[4:08:58] commitment for the last senate --
[4:09:02] they're outgoing senators and we're
[4:09:04] looking forward to the first meeting
[4:09:06] to engage on what we're going to focus
[4:09:08] on this year.
[4:09:09] I'm goik to move on to something else
[4:09:11] that's not so great.
[4:09:12] I want to talk about human resources
[4:09:14] and I want to talk about some things
[4:09:16] that have changed here that is not
[4:09:19] really the senate focus but I'm going
[4:09:22] to say it anyway because it does
[4:09:26] resolve around my job and student
[4:09:27] health and I'm going to take this
[4:09:29] opportunity to say that this
[4:09:31] restructuring of human resorts
[4:09:33] roll-out was not very effective.
[4:09:35] there are safety issues on campus.
[4:09:37] I had two injuries from the culinary
[4:09:40] with lacerations this week, we have no
[4:09:42] idea who the risk manager is now who
[4:09:46] or who's taking over for that person,
[4:09:48] we know orlando is not.
[4:09:50] there is as website that says to
[4:09:53] e-mail -- scan and e-mail the accident
[4:09:55] injury report to the risk services
[4:09:58] e-mail, that is not a secure e-mail,
[4:10:00] that is a hipaa violation I have
[4:10:02] reported twice with this college, now
[4:10:04] we're having it back on the website
[4:10:06] again.
[4:10:07] you do not send medical records
[4:10:10] through our e-mail system.
[4:10:12] we are not only personally liable for
[4:10:14] doing it but the college is liable and
[4:10:16] you should all know that, this has
[4:10:17] been going on.
[4:10:18] rolling out the restructuring and not
[4:10:21] having these things situated in
[4:10:23] advance and not only letting the
[4:10:25] constituent leaders know about this in
[4:10:26] advance and maybe the roll-down from
[4:10:29] there, but not avenging the campus
[4:10:30] know where our faculty don't know
[4:10:34] where to send this or don't know who
[4:10:36] to call because all of this has
[4:10:38] changed and no one went over it
[4:10:41] thoroughly with the college is not
[4:10:42] acceptable, it is not acceptable to
[4:10:44] roll out these things when there is
[4:10:45] safety and students involved and I'm
[4:10:48] very disappointed with this department
[4:10:49] for many reasons but this is a big
[4:10:51] one, we have to take seriously or we
[4:10:55] are going to get a violation.
[4:10:57] I'm going to tell you right now, if I
[4:10:59] find out or if I have to go through
[4:11:02] an e-mail again and if I find out
[4:11:07] somebody's e-mailed an injury report,
[4:11:09] I'm going to report this as well, it is
[4:11:11] illegal, personal and for the college,
[4:11:12] we're talking millions of dollars
[4:11:14] and of the two violations so far here,
[4:11:17] someone needs to roll out the training
[4:11:18] and let the district know what's going
[4:11:22] on.
[4:11:24] >> thank you, next is 5e, the service
[4:11:28] employee's international union, seiu,
[4:11:32] san francisco community college
[4:11:33] district local chapter 1021,
[4:11:34] president's report from president
[4:11:37] maria salazar-colon.
[4:11:38] >> making sure you guys can hear me?
[4:11:40] >> yes.
[4:11:41] >> I'm on a new laptop, it's been
[4:11:44] acting wild.
[4:11:45] seiu is concerned the district is
[4:11:50] feeling a significant amount of money
[4:11:52] to high paid administrators who seem
[4:11:54] to be unqualified for their positions.
[4:11:56] we see a new administration on the
[4:11:58] block and it's called conquer and
[4:12:01] divide, giving off anti-labor vibes
[4:12:05] and taking down unions with shut up
[4:12:11] and do what I tell you to do,
[4:12:16] additionally, it is troubling the
[4:12:17] inappropriate behavior among some
[4:12:18] administrators is not being
[4:12:19] addressed, these individuals are
[4:12:21] receiving promotions and new titles.
[4:12:22] if we're wrong, prove it with the
[4:12:25] evidence.
[4:12:27] consider this, former vice chancellor
[4:12:30] yulan who was a staunch appointment
[4:12:34] of labor units received a
[4:12:37] transportation housing stipend of
[4:12:38] approximately 7 thousand dollars per
[4:12:40] month for nearly two years, in
[4:12:42] contrast, the former avc of hr
[4:12:46] received five thousand each year,
[4:12:47] during that time, our union positions
[4:12:49] including those for utility workers
[4:12:52] were put on hold by the previous
[4:12:55] interim chancellor due to budget
[4:12:58] restrictions.
[4:12:59] however hundreds of thousands of
[4:13:02] dollars continue to be allocated.
[4:13:03] I believe the swaying has worsened
[4:13:06] since then.
[4:13:07] currently there is a restructuring of
[4:13:10] the hr department that is negatively
[4:13:13] impacting our union job, our
[4:13:16] bargaining union members have been
[4:13:17] informed that the department is no
[4:13:20] longer the labor hr, what is evidenced
[4:13:26] by this restructuring is the formation
[4:13:27] of an anti-hero labor hr department
[4:13:32] exhibiting a concerning pattern of
[4:13:35] ageism, we have received testimony
[4:13:37] from senior experienced workers
[4:13:39] stating they have being pressured to
[4:13:41] retire, they even agree -- if they
[4:13:44] agree to retire, management offers to
[4:13:46] throw them a party.
[4:13:50] this behavior has complete disregard
[4:13:51] for the members of our bargaining unit.
[4:13:54] employees who resist out of class duty
[4:13:58] face layovers aimed at coercing them
[4:13:59] into retirement.
[4:14:00] all of this is occurring under the
[4:14:02] current leadership of the college
[4:14:05] administration which includes
[4:14:06] anti-labor industries and the external
[4:14:08] legal counsel.
[4:14:09] when will this end?
[4:14:11] it seems we're on the path of becoming
[4:14:14] an anti-labor institution.
[4:14:15] also I don't appreciate hearing from a
[4:14:19] former president of our union he was
[4:14:21] called a thug.
[4:14:22] this shows once again the behavior of
[4:14:25] the this college who ignores the
[4:14:29] institutional racism that continues
[4:14:30] here.
[4:14:31] thank you.
[4:14:32] >> thank you, president salazar-colon.
[4:14:35] next on the constituent group reports
[4:14:38] is 5f, the american federation of
[4:14:42] teachers, aft, local 2121, president's
[4:14:46] report by president robin pugh.
[4:14:52] >> thank you, welcome back, so here we
[4:14:53] are at the beginning of the school
[4:14:54] year.
[4:14:55] I don't know what happened to summer,
[4:14:56] but it's been great hanging around,
[4:14:57] seeing people, feeling the energy from
[4:14:59] faculty and students.
[4:15:00] this is a time of year when we look to
[4:15:02] the future, so in that vain, there's a
[4:15:04] few things I hope we'll hear about
[4:15:06] tonight or if not that, very soon.
[4:15:08] the college community needs to hear
[4:15:12] more detailed plans about the future
[4:15:14] of our downtown center or even how
[4:15:15] that future will be determined.
[4:15:16] we need to hear scheduled and program
[4:15:19] level detail of how the college will
[4:15:22] achieve a 2% enrollment growth goal,
[4:15:24] especially in light of the pause in
[4:15:27] instruction downtown.
[4:15:29] in my e-mail to you all earlier today,
[4:15:31] I shared my concern about tonight's
[4:15:34] item 13a, your vote on whether to
[4:15:36] authorize a contract with outside
[4:15:39] lawyers without a dollar amount.
[4:15:42] the college has hired administrators
[4:15:45] in hr, hired inside counsel, recently
[4:15:50] restructured hr, we heard about that,
[4:15:52] even citing decreased need in hr to
[4:15:55] justify cutting a position and yet
[4:15:57] there appears to be no lan to develop
[4:16:00] internal capacity for labor relations
[4:16:02] which is sadly lacking.
[4:16:03] I instead of our public college has
[4:16:07] become a multimillion dollar client for
[4:16:12] [inaudible], we incentivize these
[4:16:15] outside lawyers to earn millions of
[4:16:18] taxpayer dollars by perpetuating
[4:16:20] dysfunction and delaying resolution,
[4:16:22] it's a pattern we've seen clearly from
[4:16:24] this firm, please do not approve a
[4:16:28] blank check.
[4:16:29] with respect to tonight's budget
[4:16:31] presentation, we know this is an early
[4:16:34] presentation, what we know to be true,
[4:16:37] the college has run surpluses for the
[4:16:40] last six years while building healthy
[4:16:43] reserve asks capital outlay, all the
[4:16:48] while, the budget said the district
[4:16:49] was going to be in deficit or
[4:16:52] at risk of deficit.
[4:16:54] apt caught on to this quickly, we
[4:16:57] noticed we fought these harmful
[4:17:00] practices and now the state auditors
[4:17:01] have noticed.
[4:17:02] our budgets are reliably unreliable,
[4:17:06] so to correct this harm, we need a
[4:17:09] pattern of budgeting that reflects
[4:17:11] reality and we look future to see
[4:17:14] further refinements that clarify how
[4:17:20] the board will facilitate our
[4:17:22] transition to the student centered
[4:17:24] funding formula, this is the kind of
[4:17:27] financial leadership we most need from
[4:17:28] our board of trustees and finally aft
[4:17:31] continues at the bargaining table for
[4:17:36] a successor contract.
[4:17:37] we look forward to collaborative
[4:17:39] discussions and looking forward to
[4:17:40] working with a district team that
[4:17:42] displays respect by coming to the
[4:17:44] table prepared and ready to make
[4:17:46] proposals that recognize the value of
[4:17:49] the critical service that faculty
[4:17:51] provide to students in the college.
[4:17:52] thank you.
[4:17:54] >> thank you, president pugh?
[4:17:57] next is 5g, the administrator's
[4:18:00] association co-chair's report,
[4:18:02] co-chair stephanie chenard will not be
[4:18:05] here to present the report but it is
[4:18:08] attached, the formal written report.
[4:18:10] last is 5h which is the department chairs
[4:18:13] council dcc president's report,
[4:18:16] darlene alioto.
[4:18:17] >> good evening, trustees, the dcc has
[4:18:23] not officially met yet this semester.
[4:18:24] we have report from boots on the
[4:18:26] ground that enrollment looks good.
[4:18:29] as we walk by classrooms, there are
[4:18:31] more students than we have had for a
[4:18:34] while and there is a vibrance around campus.
[4:18:37] faculty are saying that they have more
[4:18:39] students this semester than they have
[4:18:42] had since covid.
[4:18:43] so, it's a mystery why computer
[4:18:45] numbers are still saying that we are a
[4:18:50] bit lower than we were last year.
[4:18:51] we hope that those numbers will catch
[4:18:53] up with reality.
[4:18:56] I wanted to do a shout out and a thank
[4:18:58] you to the team that has worked hard
[4:19:02] on our ghost students, admission and
[4:19:04] records and it, there seems to be a
[4:19:09] major, major improvement in the ghost
[4:19:14] situation, so deaf -- definitely
[4:19:18] something is working.
[4:19:19] we're still seeing the same confusion
[4:19:20] at the start of each semester where
[4:19:25] the semester start date is different
[4:19:27] from the class start date.
[4:19:28] that's confusing for students and we
[4:19:33] need to find a different way to
[4:19:35] present that information.
[4:19:36] in a recent meeting with the
[4:19:39] chancellor, she indicated that there
[4:19:40] may be a new program that can address
[4:19:42] this problem and we certainly hope so
[4:19:46] and hope that it can be done prior to
[4:19:48] our next registration.
[4:19:52] finally I would right to ask the board
[4:19:55] of trustees to consider moving their
[4:19:58] closed session to the end of the
[4:20:01] meeting so that you guys are the only
[4:20:03] ones that are inconvenienced.
[4:20:07] welcome to a robust semester, thank
[4:20:09] you.
[4:20:10] >> thank you very much,
[4:20:11] president
[4:20:16] alioto.
[4:20:19] >> okay, thank you so much, that
[4:20:23] concludes constituent reports.
[4:20:26] chancellor's report is next I believe.
[4:20:28] >> we do have a public comment on it
[4:20:30] if you would like to take that first.
[4:20:32] >> let's go ahead and have the report
[4:20:34] and then we'll take public comment.
[4:20:36] >> of course.
[4:20:37] >> thank you, you see the written
[4:20:39] report.
[4:20:40] one of the things I wanted to
[4:20:43] highlight for everyone is the
[4:20:44] information I shared at the fall flex
[4:20:47] day regarding the educational
[4:20:49] strategic planning process.
[4:20:50] so, we did share the team members were
[4:20:55] working with us, the timeline, the
[4:20:57] expectations of the workforce, the
[4:20:58] fact there will be many listening
[4:21:02] sessions across the college and with
[4:21:03] the external community, they'll also
[4:21:06] be reports out to governance and to
[4:21:09] the board and it's a very inclusive
[4:21:12] process that we have begun this
[4:21:15] semester.
[4:21:16] we are looking forward to that and so
[4:21:19] I just wanted -- the slides give a lot
[4:21:22] more detail.
[4:21:23] I think that I want to echo what
[4:21:26] darlene said, I know I -- I'm hoping
[4:21:30] that numbers, they say numbers don't
[4:21:31] lie, I do see a lot more students on
[4:21:35] campus this fall than I did see last
[4:21:39] fall or last spring, so I think I'm
[4:21:43] crossing my fingers our enrollment
[4:21:45] numbers might be different than census
[4:21:48] data than they've been so far, we'll
[4:21:50] report that out to you.
[4:21:51] there is a lot of good information in
[4:21:53] there, I will let it go at that.
[4:21:56] >> let's take public comment.
[4:21:58] >> there's one, mara lee hearn.
[4:22:09] >> good evening, trustees and
[4:22:13] chancellor.
[4:22:14] thank you, chancellor
[4:22:18] messina, for reminding
[4:22:24] us about the goals of ccsf, and I
[4:22:27] quote, collective commitment to
[4:22:32] education success, equity and access,
[4:22:34] of late, a primary concern for many of
[4:22:36] us in the community is access and
[4:22:43] increasingly shrinking reality.
[4:22:44] as we have watched in horror at the
[4:22:46] loss of our highly acclaimed fort
[4:22:49] mason art center in 2009, and the
[4:22:54] nearly total destruction of the older
[4:22:57] adults program, now we are witnessing
[4:23:01] the administrative wrecking ball
[4:23:03] attack the downtown center.
[4:23:05] a community built on the successes in
[4:23:09] providing inner city students with
[4:23:13] access to classes, on-site experience
[4:23:16] and skill building leading to the
[4:23:22] credentials necessary to survive in
[4:23:24] our demanding and competitive city.
[4:23:27] this has been ripped a away from its
[4:23:29] students and all of their supporters
[4:23:31] and teachers who patiently waited and
[4:23:36] watched eagerly for the leadership
[4:23:38] that could both recognize and support
[4:23:41] the mission of the downtown center.
[4:23:45] it's not too late to choose the
[4:23:50] appropriate leadership, to build the
[4:23:53] student attendance by addressing their
[4:23:56] needs, to fulfill the stated goals of
[4:24:00] this institution.
[4:24:03] our reported millions in surplus in
[4:24:05] our budget are there to be put to good
[4:24:09] use can which does not include further
[4:24:15] inflating the reserves at the expense
[4:24:17] of student programs.
[4:24:18] thank you.
[4:24:19] >> thank you very much.
[4:24:22] that concludes public comment,
[4:24:23] president chisti?
[4:24:24] >> let's go to the next item.
[4:24:29] >> 7 is open session and informational
[4:24:31] items, 7a is entitled city college of
[4:24:35] san francisco annual grantees and
[4:24:36] resource development update.
[4:24:37] this will be provided by the dean of
[4:24:39] grantees and resource development, dr.
[4:24:42] maureen herrington who will be
[4:24:44] joining us remotely.
[4:24:45] >> I'm going to ask my colleagues for
[4:24:46] a motion to extend the meeting time.
[4:24:50] I'm going to estimate proposed 10:45.
[4:25:00] >> moved.
[4:25:01] >> moved by trustee chung, seconded
[4:25:05] by trustee mccarty.
[4:25:06] seeing no discussion or objection,
[4:25:09] we're going to take that by
[4:25:14] acclimation, meeting time is extended
[4:25:17] to 10:45 p.m., the floor is yours.
[4:25:19] >> good evening, trustees and
[4:25:22] chancellor messina.
[4:25:24] I am submitting the annual grants
[4:25:26] report, it's information only.
[4:25:29] there are as you can see from the
[4:25:31] report, there's a list of various
[4:25:34] grants that were applied for,
[4:25:38] received, applied for, not funded and
[4:25:43] then the list of grants that were
[4:25:47] determined and not necessarily be a
[4:25:49] good fit at the time and others that
[4:25:52] are currently under review.
[4:25:54] we know that there has been a big
[4:25:58] change in the federal funding
[4:26:00] department of education and so things
[4:26:03] are influx but we continue to work to
[4:26:08] bring in creative grants and it's
[4:26:12] never dull, let's just say that.
[4:26:14] we have lot of colleagues, faculty,
[4:26:18] chair, deans, administration that are
[4:26:19] bringing things to our attention and
[4:26:22] things are being vetted and we're
[4:26:25] looking at creative ways of bringing
[4:26:28] more opportunities to the college and
[4:26:31] our students.
[4:26:34] so, that's the information only at
[4:26:37] this point, but do you have any
[4:26:39] questions?
[4:26:40] >> thank you so much.
[4:26:41] thank you so much for this
[4:26:42] informational item.
[4:26:43] before I open it up for discussion,
[4:26:45] any public comment?
[4:26:47] >> there's no public comment on 7a.
[4:26:49] >> alright.
[4:26:50] we're going to keep discussion on in
[4:26:57] fairly brief, so, if there's pressing
[4:27:01] questions or comments?
[4:27:04] alright.
[4:27:05] seeing none, we're going to go ahead
[4:27:06] and move along, thank you so much, dr.
[4:27:09] herrington.
[4:27:10] >> thank you.
[4:27:11] >> the next item is -- if you could
[4:27:13] please call the next item.
[4:27:14] >> this is 7b, the free city college
[4:27:16] program update.
[4:27:19] I'll pass it along to you.
[4:27:24] >> in the interest of time, I wanted
[4:27:25] to make sure that all of you had
[4:27:27] access -- there was a free city
[4:27:31] oversight committee last month, ibt I
[4:27:33] wanted to make sure you had access
[4:27:36] to the agenda posted.
[4:27:37] some of the access is what a revised
[4:27:41] mou would look like, the body will
[4:27:42] engage with that and we will all keep
[4:27:44] you apprised with those discussions.
[4:27:46] I think something else that we want to
[4:27:48] keep as we move into the next item to
[4:27:50] think about is that I believe the free
[4:27:53] city mou is going to be expiring in
[4:27:57] 2029 so, that's just a formally
[4:28:01] expiring at that date, something for
[4:28:02] us to keep in mind of and I think
[4:28:07] student trustee wong also provided
[4:28:09] some updates about securing the
[4:28:11] funding and right now we're secured
[4:28:13] but to think about the long term.
[4:28:16] so, that's the update.
[4:28:18] I want to take really quick public
[4:28:21] comment.
[4:28:22] >> there's no public comment on 7b.
[4:28:26] >> I'm going to move us along in the
[4:28:29] interest of time on this, if that's okay.
[4:28:31] if you could call the next item.
[4:28:32] >> this is 8, open session,
[4:28:35] presentation items, 8a is fiscal year
[4:28:38] 2027 adopted budget update and
[4:28:40] multiyear financial projections.
[4:28:41] which will be presented by vice
[4:28:44] chancellor shannon carter.
[4:28:47] >> alright, the floor is yours.
[4:28:50] >> I apologize, I want to stand here
[4:28:51] so I can see everyone's face.
[4:28:53] I'm giving a little more information
[4:28:55] so when we get into next month when
[4:28:57] you guys get that budget book in your
[4:28:59] hand, you're going to be able to
[4:29:01] answer a lot of questions that you
[4:29:04] may have, so let's start with the next
[4:29:06] slide.
[4:29:07] so, here we really just want to say
[4:29:09] thank you who put a lot of work in
[4:29:11] into this.
[4:29:12] this is how we started and this is how
[4:29:15] we're ending, the budget is not
[4:29:17] completed by finance alone, it is a
[4:29:19] collective effort by mostly the
[4:29:24] administrator, human resources,
[4:29:26] instructors, everyone has a buy-in,
[4:29:28] thank you for everyone who's gotten us
[4:29:31] here.
[4:29:32] so, let's look at the districtwide
[4:29:34] snapshot, when we look across all the
[4:29:37] district funds, city college is a
[4:29:41] significant public investment, the
[4:29:42] largest revenue source shown is the
[4:29:44] blue which is on the u-fund, that is
[4:29:47] driven primarily by our apportionment
[4:29:49] and other unrestricted revenues but on
[4:29:51] the expenditure side, the largest
[4:29:53] component this year is associated with
[4:29:55] our bond funded capital program,
[4:29:58] that's that large gold area you see
[4:30:00] on the expenditure side.
[4:30:07] let's go into the numbers.
[4:30:08] this is the slide that provides the
[4:30:11] detailed history behind our
[4:30:12] unrestricted position.
[4:30:13] but there's good news here, over the
[4:30:16] last several years, city college has
[4:30:19] significantly strengthened its
[4:30:20] financial position.
[4:30:21] the ending fund balance increased from
[4:30:24] 19.1 million to a projected 72.2
[4:30:28] million.
[4:30:29] that did not happen accidentally.
[4:30:30] again, I would like to honor all the
[4:30:32] work we've been doing over the past
[4:30:34] few years but within this last year,
[4:30:37] there was a lot of hard work and the
[4:30:39] leadership of the chancellor, so thank
[4:30:40] you for that.
[4:30:41] but this also reflect deliberate
[4:30:43] fiscal management and provides the
[4:30:44] college with an important financial
[4:30:47] cushion.
[4:30:48] but there's another number on this
[4:30:49] page that deserves our attention, in
[4:30:52] fiscal year 26-27, revenues are
[4:30:54] projected at approximately 207.4
[4:31:03] million dollars when transfers are
[4:31:06] 207.2 million, we're a bit balanced
[4:31:08] but barely.
[4:31:11] the distinction between becomes very
[4:31:12] important as we move into the
[4:31:16] multiyear forecast later on in the
[4:31:21] presentation.
[4:31:22] so, here this simplifies the previous
[4:31:23] slide into three numbers, the 207.4
[4:31:27] million of revenue, the 207.1 in
[4:31:30] expenditures and a 72.2 million dollar
[4:31:34] ending fund balance, that produces a
[4:31:36] reserve of approximately 34.85%.
[4:31:41] a 34.85% reserve gives city college
[4:31:45] flexibility and protection against
[4:31:47] uncertainty and that is a strength but
[4:31:49] I want to make an important
[4:31:52] distinction, a reserve is a financial
[4:31:55] safeguard, not an ongoing revenue
[4:31:59] source.
[4:32:01] we cannot solve recurring expenditure
[4:32:03] growth with one-time fund balance
[4:32:06] indefinitely.
[4:32:07] this is giving us something valuable
[4:32:09] which is time.
[4:32:11] time to make thoughtful decisions
[4:32:13] rather than reactive ones.
[4:32:15] the reserve has increased from 10.65
[4:32:18] in fiscal year 22-23 to a projected
[4:32:23] 34.85% in 26-27.
[4:32:27] here is our restricted funds.
[4:32:31] there we go.
[4:32:32] here's our restricted funds, you'll
[4:32:35] see substantial growth in our
[4:32:37] restricted funds, that's mostly with
[4:32:39] our carry over and with our 44.8
[4:32:41] million dollars, so again we are
[4:32:45] actively working to spend down those
[4:32:48] restricted funds with the incoming new
[4:32:49] vice chancellor, we will actively be
[4:32:50] working with spending plans along with
[4:32:52] our deans and our department chairs.
[4:32:53] next slide.
[4:32:59] so, first before we go into the
[4:33:00] multiyear, I want to talk about
[4:33:02] assumptions so we're looking at the
[4:33:03] same thing.
[4:33:04] before looking at that forecast, it's
[4:33:06] important to understand what drives it.
[4:33:10] so, a multiyear projection is not a
[4:33:12] prediction of exactly what will
[4:33:14] happen, it is a planning tool that
[4:33:17] tells us what could happen in our
[4:33:19] current assumptions hold.
[4:33:20] we have assumed 2% annual enrollment
[4:33:24] growth, future colas, increases in
[4:33:26] health and welfare costs step and
[4:33:31] column movement, operating cost ess
[4:33:32] cal lacing and the potential return of
[4:33:35] a state deficit factor.
[4:33:36] most importantly the projection holds
[4:33:39] our scff funding floor at
[4:33:41] approximately 169.1 million dollars.
[4:33:43] that includes our 1.44% discretionary
[4:33:48] cola.
[4:33:49] these assumptions will change as new
[4:33:50] information becomes available.
[4:33:51] our job is to update the forecast
[4:33:54] continuously and make decisions early
[4:33:56] when the trajectory changes.
[4:33:59] next slide, please.
[4:34:00] so, again, this slide distills those
[4:34:03] assumptions into the major building
[4:34:06] blocks and this is where the
[4:34:08] structural challenge starts to become
[4:34:10] visible.
[4:34:11] we are assuming enrollment growth, we
[4:34:13] are assuming cola which are positives
[4:34:15] but at the same time, health and
[4:34:17] welfare costs are projected to
[4:34:19] increase 6% annually.
[4:34:21] operating costs remain elevated and
[4:34:24] the forecast introduces a state
[4:34:26] deficit factor, so the challenge isn't
[4:34:29] simply whether revenue growers, the
[4:34:30] challenge is whether revenue grows
[4:34:33] fast enough to keep pace with our cost
[4:34:36] structure.
[4:34:37] under the current assumptions, it does
[4:34:40] not.
[4:34:43] here is our multiyear projection with
[4:34:46] the unrestricted fund.
[4:34:47] this is one of the most important
[4:34:49] slides in this presentation.
[4:34:52] 26-27 is essentially balanced but
[4:34:57] beginning in 27-28, expenditures begin
[4:35:00] growing faster than revenues.
[4:35:01] our projected operating costs are
[4:35:04] approximately breaking even this year
[4:35:06] but the following year starting our
[4:35:07] deficit which is 6.6 million, then
[4:35:11] 16.6 million and ultimately 24 million
[4:35:14] in fiscal year 29-30.
[4:35:16] I want to emphasize that these are
[4:35:20] projections, not predetermined outcomes
[4:35:24] and that is precisely why we are
[4:35:25] showing them now.
[4:35:26] the purpose of a multiyear projection
[4:35:27] is not to tell us we have a future
[4:35:31] problem, it's to give us enough time
[4:35:32] to prevent one.
[4:35:33] so, the detailed projection shows
[4:35:35] revenue remaining around 205 to 207
[4:35:39] million but expenditures and transfers
[4:35:41] grow up to 228.7 million by 29-30.
[4:35:50] here is where we illustrate.
[4:35:53] this chart makes the issue much easier
[4:35:54] to see.
[4:35:57] the blue bars which is our revenue
[4:36:00] remains relatively flat.
[4:36:01] the red bars which are our
[4:36:03] expenditures continue moving upward.
[4:36:05] that's -- that space between the two
[4:36:11] grap gaps are our structural deficit.
[4:36:14] these year there essentially isn't one
[4:36:16] but next year it becomes 6.6 million,
[4:36:20] then 16.6 million and then the 24
[4:36:22] million.
[4:36:23] so, our challenge is not simply
[4:36:25] cutting a budget, it is changing the
[4:36:27] trajectory of these two lines,
[4:36:30] looking at both sides of the equation,
[4:36:32] controlling our recurring costs,
[4:36:35] strengthening our enrollment,
[4:36:37] maximizing our scff performance and
[4:36:41] identifying sustainable revenue
[4:36:44] opportunities.
[4:36:45] next slide.
[4:36:46] here now we can see what happens if we
[4:36:48] we do nothing.
[4:36:50] our reserve peaks at approximately
[4:36:53] 36.9% and remains strong at 35.85%
[4:36:57] this year, as recurring expenditures
[4:36:59] exceed recurring revenues, the reserve
[4:37:02] begins doing exactly what reserves to
[4:37:04] which is absorbing the difference.
[4:37:07] it declines to 30%, then to 22% and
[4:37:11] approximately 11% by 29-30.
[4:37:13] the concern isn't that we have an
[4:37:16] inadequate reserve today, the concern
[4:37:17] is the speed at which the projection
[4:37:20] will consume it.
[4:37:25] but here let's talk through a
[4:37:27] preliminary rising analysis.
[4:37:29] we frame this as a preliminary because
[4:37:33] fiscal stewardship isn't simply about
[4:37:35] maintaining a particular percentage,
[4:37:36] four things stand out.
[4:37:38] first, this year's operating margin is
[4:37:41] extremely thin, approximately 288
[4:37:43] thousand.
[4:37:44] second, the structural deficit emerges
[4:37:46] next year and accelerates.
[4:37:50] third, that deficit begins consuming
[4:37:52] our reserve.
[4:37:53] but fourth, by fiscal year 29-30, the
[4:37:56] projection levers us with
[4:37:58] approximately one month and a week and
[4:38:00] a half with operating expenditures and
[4:38:03] reserves.
[4:38:04] our reserve levelers gives us the
[4:38:05] ability to be strategic today, as we
[4:38:08] continue to prepare for our future.
[4:38:13] however this table right here puts
[4:38:16] this entire story on one page.
[4:38:18] the college enters 26-27 with
[4:38:24] approximately 72.2 million dollars in
[4:38:26] a fund balance which is approximately
[4:38:27] four months of operating expenses.
[4:38:28] under the current assumptions, that
[4:38:30] falls to approximately 25.1 million
[4:38:33] which is about 1.32 months of
[4:38:35] operating expenses.
[4:38:36] but the most important number on this
[4:38:38] slide is 72 million or the 25 million.
[4:38:40] it is the growing difference between the
[4:38:43] recurring revenue and the recurring
[4:38:45] expenditures.
[4:38:46] if we address that structural
[4:38:51] imbalance, we'll protect the reserve.
[4:38:52] if we focus on the percentage, we risk
[4:38:55] treating the symptom rather than the
[4:38:59] cause.
[4:39:00] so here this graphic is intentionally
[4:39:01] very simple.
[4:39:03] if the assumptions hold and no
[4:39:05] proactive actions are taken,
[4:39:07] approximately 47.1 million of our
[4:39:09] unrestricted reserve will be consumed
[4:39:11] over the next three years.
[4:39:12] this is the reason why we're working
[4:39:15] hard to make sure we're monitoring our
[4:39:18] expenditures and evaluating
[4:39:22] everything we're doing.
[4:39:23] I don't present this number to
[4:39:24] subjecting it is inevitable but it is
[4:39:26] avoidable.
[4:39:27] we have visibility and we have time,
[4:39:28] we have a strong starting reserve.
[4:39:36] what does all of this mean.
[4:39:38] the 26-27 adopted budget is balanced,
[4:39:41] when we print that out, we should have
[4:39:43] that out by september 1.
[4:39:44] when we're looking forward, the
[4:39:50] strength should not make uss very
[4:39:51] complaisant.
[4:39:52] I really want to express the
[4:39:54] leadership from the chancellor is
[4:39:56] really make us evaluate how we're
[4:39:58] moving forward and that trajectory to
[4:40:00] make sure we improve.
[4:40:02] as we continue to go this, our numbers
[4:40:05] should improve with our correct
[4:40:08] leadership.
[4:40:09] we appreciate everyone's participation
[4:40:10] and understanding how we're going to
[4:40:11] move forward, this is not just about
[4:40:14] reducing expenditures, it's about
[4:40:16] being intentional and thoughtful in
[4:40:17] our investments.
[4:40:23] so, I want to close again with --
[4:40:27] we're going to lean on our board to
[4:40:29] assist us as we move forward but we
[4:40:31] want to understand and will continue
[4:40:33] to bring this budget forward as we're
[4:40:36] making these decisions to ensure we're
[4:40:38] being transparent but most
[4:40:41] importantly, collaborative.
[4:40:42] thank you.
[4:40:43] >> thank you so much.
[4:40:44] before I open it up to my colleague,
[4:40:46] let's go ahead and take public comment.
[4:40:48] >> yes, we have a total of four.
[4:40:50] the first one's leslie smith followed
[4:40:54] by abigail bornstein followed by
[4:40:56] susana a atwood, leslie?
[4:41:01] >> I have arthritis, I'm on the list,
[4:41:05] operation.
[4:41:06] hard work, seriously, to put money
[4:41:07] into the reserves instead of serving
[4:41:10] students, that's not hard work, it's
[4:41:12] wrong work.
[4:41:13] does everyone know what k-12,
[4:41:16] california and the city and county
[4:41:17] have in common?
[4:41:19] reserves are limited to 10%.
[4:41:21] you cannot put more than 10% into your
[4:41:24] reserves if you are k-12 school
[4:41:26] district.
[4:41:27] the state of california or the city
[4:41:31] and county of san francisco.
[4:41:33] why?
[4:41:34] why are they limited to 10?
[4:41:37] because taxpayers want the money they
[4:41:39] are giving you to be spent on the
[4:41:41] purpose that they are allocated for.
[4:41:43] what is the one policy change that is
[4:41:45] needed to fix our college?
[4:41:47] focus on student enrollment growth,
[4:41:49] nothing else will work to fix the
[4:41:53] budget.
[4:41:54] how big is the problem, we're down 24%
[4:41:57] in ftes since 17-18.
[4:41:59] we used to serve 22 thousand -- when I
[4:42:01] was here, a lot more.
[4:42:03] and now we're serving 16 thousand.
[4:42:06] almost 17 thousand.
[4:42:08] so, that's the chancellor in her
[4:42:10] report reported 2.6 million is the
[4:42:13] cost, ongoing faculty cost to increase
[4:42:17] 675 ftes at the downtown campus that
[4:42:20] would have kept the 2.2 million at the
[4:42:23] base.
[4:42:24] it's about 20 million bucks to get us
[4:42:25] back to where we need to go so we can
[4:42:27] get cola and growth.
[4:42:32] ongoing, that's ongoing.
[4:42:33] who's responsible for making those
[4:42:34] policy changes that will save city
[4:42:36] college?
[4:42:37] the board of trustees are legally
[4:42:38] responsible for policy and direction,
[4:42:41] establish general policies and ensure
[4:42:44] that local educational programs
[4:42:45] match community needs.
[4:42:46] sounds like the weston report, sounds
[4:42:49] like we know what we should be doing.
[4:42:53] hire and evaluate and support a
[4:42:58] chancellor who will do the right thing.
[4:43:00] we owe it to our adults, our
[4:43:03] communities, our taxpayers and our
[4:43:04] state to serve the students.
[4:43:09] >> thank you, leslie.
[4:43:11] next is abigail bornstein who will be
[4:43:13] joining us remotely.
[4:43:16] >> please turn to the pdf document,
[4:43:19] page 4, labeled slide 12.
[4:43:22] under expenditures, look over to the
[4:43:23] right side, what do you see in the
[4:43:25] last column?
[4:43:26] every classification on the right side
[4:43:29] shows a double digit year over year
[4:43:32] increase ranging from 15% to more than
[4:43:35] 200%.
[4:43:36] there's one exception and it jumps off
[4:43:40] the page, academic salaries are up 12%
[4:43:41] year over year.
[4:43:43] what does this tell our san francisco
[4:43:45] community, that city college of san
[4:43:46] francisco is not focused on educating
[4:43:49] classes or the teachers needed to
[4:43:51] teach those classes but out of
[4:43:54] everything else, teaching is becoming
[4:43:55] secondary to building support services
[4:43:58] and outreach outside contracts.
[4:44:00] the school's priorities have shifted
[4:44:02] from teaching in classes to almost
[4:44:05] anything else.
[4:44:07] before any negotiated pay increases,
[4:44:09] classified salaries are already up 16%
[4:44:12] year over year.
[4:44:13] do you see the additional 6.4 million
[4:44:16] dollars?
[4:44:17] don't forget benefits, that's 9 million
[4:44:19] dollars more this year and even
[4:44:20] more in the multiyear projection,
[4:44:22] three years out, that's 9 million
[4:44:25] dollars becomes 27 million dollars
[4:44:26] from our reserves.
[4:44:28] hasn't it been the board that has
[4:44:31] approved the fact that the one group gets
[4:44:32] an increase, the other group must get
[4:44:35] the same increase too?
[4:44:37] based on this budget and these year
[4:44:39] over year increase, this college is
[4:44:40] becoming more about buildings and
[4:44:42] activities other than teaching classes
[4:44:44] and educating students.
[4:44:46] we are moving from a teaching and
[4:44:49] education focused college to something
[4:44:50] else.
[4:44:51] that's what this budget says to me.
[4:44:54] lastly, I would really like the board
[4:44:56] to receive a presentation on budget
[4:44:59] line item 5909, receivable write-off,
[4:45:01] why do we continue year after year to
[4:45:04] write off millions of uncollected
[4:45:07] receivables, 8 million dollars in the
[4:45:08] last three years, are we projecting
[4:45:10] that to continue as 2.5 million
[4:45:12] dollars each year and for how many
[4:45:15] years?
[4:45:16] there should be a presentation on
[4:45:17] this.
[4:45:18] thank you.
[4:45:19] >> thank you very much, abigail.
[4:45:22] next is susana atwood followed by
[4:45:24] lydia hernandez.
[4:45:28] >> susana atwood, retired business
[4:45:31] faculty.
[4:45:32] the first thing I want to say is maybe
[4:45:36] fortunately, maybe unfortunately,
[4:45:37] there is a new state auditor's report
[4:45:40] out that has many findings for us, for
[4:45:46] ccsf, and I recommend you folks look
[4:45:48] at it on the state auditor's website
[4:45:51] because it's presented really well
[4:45:54] there.
[4:45:55] but it kind of throws a monkey wrench
[4:45:57] into this whole budget because it's
[4:45:59] asking for some things that we didn't
[4:46:03] know it, right, it came out august 8
[4:46:06] and this budget book and everything
[4:46:07] that the county department's been
[4:46:10] working on was all done way before
[4:46:12] that report came out but one of the
[4:46:14] things I want to mention about it is
[4:46:20] that it really wrote us up and said as
[4:46:23] ccsf, we are bad at predictions going
[4:46:26] forward and that the proof of that
[4:46:29] pudding is that we have had consistent
[4:46:31] surpluses for the last four or five
[4:46:33] years and they list them and they also
[4:46:39] really wrote up the state
[4:46:41] chancellor on a lot of issues but
[4:46:44] asked the state chancellor to monitor
[4:46:47] things going forward, so if we take
[4:46:50] what was just presented as a going
[4:46:54] forward multiyear budget and make it
[4:46:56] more realistic because it isn't
[4:46:58] because we've been bad at righting
[4:47:01] that for several years we have 20
[4:47:03] million, 15 million surpluses at the
[4:47:05] end of the year and they're saying we
[4:47:08] should predict better.
[4:47:09] if we do that, this whole thing ends
[4:47:11] up looking better.
[4:47:13] the other -- the second thing missing
[4:47:16] from this is that we expect to come
[4:47:18] out of hold harmless the following
[4:47:23] year, 29, that's on this chart, so
[4:47:25] that would be 29-30, we come out, we
[4:47:28] then the following year get a full
[4:47:31] cola and that cola bringers that thing
[4:47:33] that went way down on the chart way up
[4:47:36] again.
[4:47:37] so, that has to be taken into
[4:47:39] consideration that any structural
[4:47:41] difference we have is very temporary
[4:47:44] and can we live through a that
[4:47:46] temporary period?
[4:47:47] thank you.
[4:47:48] >> thank you so much.
[4:47:49] >> last is lydia hernandez.
[4:47:59] >> good evening, members of the board
[4:48:02] and administration.
[4:48:03] so we're looking at multiyear
[4:48:06] projections that warrant a structural
[4:48:09] deficit by 2030 while our unrestricted
[4:48:13] reserve has climbed to 31 million,
[4:48:15] we don't have to guess whether this is
[4:48:18] first fiscal practice because the
[4:48:21] california state officer auditor
[4:48:25] answered that for us, when we have
[4:48:28] massive reserves without a concrete
[4:48:30] plan to invest them, they are missing
[4:48:33] critical opportunities and
[4:48:34] shortchanging their students.
[4:48:37] the state auditor directly challenges
[4:48:39] the narrative that stock piling tens
[4:48:40] of millions of dollars by slashing
[4:48:43] course access is irresponsible
[4:48:46] stewardship, it is institutional
[4:48:48] paralysis a multiyear projection is
[4:48:49] supposed to be an early warning tool,
[4:48:52] not an excuse to engineer our own
[4:48:54] decline, you could not project ftes
[4:48:57] recovery while actively suppressing
[4:48:59] the supply of classes that students
[4:49:02] need.
[4:49:03] I took micro economics here at city
[4:49:05] college and you can not serve a
[4:49:07] community that wants to learn if you
[4:49:10] keep closing classroom doors.
[4:49:11] look at san francisco today, the
[4:49:14] nearly 100 thousand dollar west ed
[4:49:18] study, the language learner education
[4:49:21] is high, yet non-credit and esl
[4:49:24] offerings are being choked out and
[4:49:26] local residents who is are knocking on
[4:49:28] our doors are being turned away.
[4:49:30] this brings us directly to the nexus
[4:49:32] test, san francisco taxpayers
[4:49:36] contribute tens of millions dollars in
[4:49:38] local parcel and sales tax and they
[4:49:41] approve these measures and their tax
[4:49:44] dollars fund concurrent students, they
[4:49:50] cut the community classes that those
[4:49:52] taxes were meant to fund fail it is
[4:49:55] nexus.
[4:49:56] the reserves are not meant to be
[4:49:58] accumulated indefinitely at the
[4:49:59] expense of instruction.
[4:50:00] it is time to align our budget demand,
[4:50:03] invest our surplus into high demand
[4:50:05] class raises and put the community
[4:50:07] back in city college.
[4:50:08] thank you.
[4:50:10] >> thank you very much, lydia.
[4:50:13] that concludes public comment.
[4:50:14] >> public comment on this item is now
[4:50:17] closed.
[4:50:18] we're going to begin discussion.
[4:50:19] just as we open up discussion, at a
[4:50:26] later point on the agenda, we will be
[4:50:28] -- there will be a motion to have a
[4:50:31] special meeting, so in order to
[4:50:34] approve the budget before the required
[4:50:37] deadline of september 15, so just --
[4:50:41] this is the before we're approving,
[4:50:44] this is another round of a discussion
[4:50:46] we're having before this is going to
[4:50:49] come before a formal adoption on
[4:50:52] september 10, so this is really our
[4:50:53] time and this is the crux of the
[4:50:54] discussion so I wanted to say that and
[4:50:56] I want to take a quick bile break so I
[4:50:59] am turning it over to vice-president
[4:51:02] zamora to help facilitate the
[4:51:04] discussion, I will be right back.
[4:51:06] >> trustees, any comments?
[4:51:07] trustee chung?
[4:51:14] >> well, thank you, vc carter, for the
[4:51:22] presentation.
[4:51:23] I do have to point this out as many
[4:51:27] many of you have probably figured out
[4:51:29] that I'm not running for re-election
[4:51:32] because I'm also looking to go to
[4:51:34] graduate school, that's why I'm taking
[4:51:36] my break to continue my education, yes.
[4:51:39] [applause].
[4:51:40] so, as I look at standardized exams, I
[4:51:45] can't help but look at some of the
[4:51:49] graphs to scale.
[4:51:53] shawn, if you could -- I don't know
[4:51:55] the if you are controlling the screen
[4:51:58] if you could help me out here.
[4:51:59] I do want to -- I'll just quickly
[4:52:02] start with in chronological order,
[4:52:12] our expenditures including our capital
[4:52:16] outlay bonds, and not accounting for
[4:52:18] them in the sail manner -- same
[4:52:23] manner, it seems like we're spending 2
[4:52:25] million more than we have, I just
[4:52:26] wanted to point out how that -- this
[4:52:29] particular slide makes our college
[4:52:34] look.
[4:52:35] >> understood, but understanding that
[4:52:36] our bonds are being more expended in
[4:52:37] this year than we received them, that's
[4:52:40] the reason why it's larger there but I
[4:52:42] can see where you're coming from.
[4:52:44] >> especially for the public, even if
[4:52:48] it's an asterisk to help explain that
[4:52:50] because otherwise you come to the
[4:52:52] slide and you're like, we're really
[4:52:54] mismanaging our money just looking at
[4:52:56] this slide and that's not happening,
[4:52:58] right.
[4:52:59] >> absolutely not.
[4:53:00] >> thank you.
[4:53:02] I also wanted to point out the graph
[4:53:05] in slide 10 or 9 as it's marked on the
[4:53:11] presentation.
[4:53:12] it doesn't quite scale -- are we there
[4:53:17] yet, sorry, it's 10 on the pdf but it
[4:53:21] jumps from 14 to 9, thank you, it
[4:53:27] doesn't quite scale up, in fiscal year
[4:53:29] 28-29, the scale from the blue that
[4:53:32] marks 200 million, the 20 million or
[4:53:35] the 16 million difference, that
[4:53:38] doubles in size, right.
[4:53:39] I think this is quite -- right, again,
[4:53:42] as far as scaling things, it does
[4:53:47] really -- and I know that you spell
[4:53:48] out the numbers on the right side,
[4:53:50] again, --
[4:53:51] >> illustrating.
[4:53:54] >> illustration, as to your point
[4:53:56] about transparency and accuracy, I do
[4:53:59] think showing the public that we're
[4:54:04] not doubling our expenses compared to
[4:54:07] our revenue, again, makes a huge
[4:54:09] difference.
[4:54:10] >> that's fair.
[4:54:11] >> so I look forward to graphics at
[4:54:15] scale in the future.
[4:54:16] >> got it.
[4:54:17] >> thank you.
[4:54:18] as we get into the numbers and the
[4:54:22] details here, I am -- I'm a little
[4:54:29] confused as far as -- we'll start with
[4:54:33] our revenue, I think as we -- so if we
[4:54:37] go back to slide 4, our revenue which
[4:54:52] went from 213 million is what we're
[4:54:56] projecting or what we're going to be
[4:55:01] adopting is 207.5 million, can you
[4:55:03] help walk through why there's such a
[4:55:05] difference in our state revenue?
[4:55:08] >> yeah, definitely, one thing we also
[4:55:10] have taken advantage of is our deficit
[4:55:13] factor, so going from our unaudited
[4:55:17] actual to our adopted budget, that's
[4:55:20] within some sort of deficit factor
[4:55:23] we're including so again that's
[4:55:25] unaudited but this is really our
[4:55:27] projection we're saying on the 207
[4:55:29] million which is kind of flat from
[4:55:31] what we're getting from our
[4:55:34] apportionment.
[4:55:35] >> and I do understand that.
[4:55:38] I think every year there this
[4:55:39] discussion about the deficit factor
[4:55:41] that never comes true for community
[4:55:43] colleges, right.
[4:55:46] I mean, vc carter, you have probably
[4:55:48] had the same experience in la, I
[4:55:52] haven't seen -- in the four plus years
[4:55:55] here and maybe dr. Messina, you have
[4:55:57] been in the community college system
[4:55:59] in california for much longer, I have
[4:56:01] never seen the deficit factor come to
[4:56:04] fruition as far as the impact on our
[4:56:06] revenue.
[4:56:07] I know there was that one year where
[4:56:08] all of us got scared and we all
[4:56:10] decided we need two months worth rf
[4:56:12] revenue to hold in our reserves, but
[4:56:15] with that exception.
[4:56:17] >> yes, that's true but when we are
[4:56:19] budgeting, that's something we take
[4:56:20] into consideration.
[4:56:21] even in our p1 projections, there is a
[4:56:26] deficit that's identified, in our
[4:56:29] budgeting practices, it is
[4:56:30] consistent we do include it.
[4:56:35] >> and in your experience, does -- how
[4:56:40] does that later then impact how you
[4:56:44] allocate for all your expenditures
[4:56:46] later on, do you end up with a massive
[4:56:48] surplus?
[4:56:49] >> I wouldn't say a massive surplus.
[4:56:52] usually the deficit factor is 1% to
[4:56:57] 1.6%, so it's not a huge windfall of
[4:56:59] money at all but it is something we do
[4:57:02] take into consideration.
[4:57:04] >> trustee chung, if it's okay, if we
[4:57:08] can circle back, I want to make space
[4:57:11] for other trustees that might want
[4:57:14] to ask questions.
[4:57:15] any concerns?
[4:57:16] v.p. Zamora?
[4:57:21] >> personally I just wanted to thank
[4:57:23] you for making this easy to understand.
[4:57:27] I mean, I love yulan but this was
[4:57:32] easier for me to follow, I wanted you
[4:57:35] and your team to be aware of that.
[4:57:36] >> thank you, I appreciate that.
[4:57:40] >> trustee martinez?
[4:57:43] >> thank you for the presentation,
[4:57:47] it's very helpful both in the graph
[4:57:48] form and in the oral presentation.
[4:57:50] if we could go to the page, I think
[4:57:54] it's on the pdf, it's page 15,
[4:57:57] assumptions for the multiyear
[4:57:59] projections, there you are.
[4:58:01] at the very bottom, there is a term
[4:58:09] legal that says a million dollars, 750
[4:58:11] thousand dollars, so on and so forth.
[4:58:15] what is included in that line item?
[4:58:18] >> so, mostly that's included in that
[4:58:24] are our expenses if there's any
[4:58:25] contracts we have so we're budgeting
[4:58:27] for that.
[4:58:28] >> one of the latest items on the
[4:58:30] agenda is to approve a contract with a
[4:58:33] law firm and it gives us the rates
[4:58:36] that we would pay but it doesn't tell
[4:58:39] us what our overall obligation would
[4:58:43] be.
[4:58:44] so, the question -- I guess the
[4:58:46] question is this, does this one
[4:58:48] million include that potential cost?
[4:58:50] >> can you address that.
[4:58:52] so, that contract is really at the
[4:58:55] request of the board and constituent
[4:58:59] grouses to expand our pool of
[4:59:01] available law firms to not be
[4:59:03] restricted to just one.
[4:59:04] so, what that contract allows us to do
[4:59:06] is to choose one of their attorneys if
[4:59:09] we have legal issues.
[4:59:10] once we do that, the rates are already
[4:59:13] agreed upon but the total dollar
[4:59:15] amount that we are projecting to spend
[4:59:18] should not exceed that dollar amount
[4:59:20] so, whether we pay it to that firm or
[4:59:22] we pay it to aalrr, our goal is to
[4:59:26] diminish that, to reduce that and that
[4:59:28] additional contract is trying to give
[4:59:29] us a better pool to draw from.
[4:59:31] >> thank you.
[4:59:32] thank you for that explanation, so
[4:59:34] there is a cap on the legal --
[4:59:39] >> we are keep capping it.
[4:59:40] >> exactly, on legal expenditures.
[4:59:43] does that include in-house counsel or
[4:59:44] is that just for external counsel?
[4:59:47] >> the in-house counsel is salary,
[4:59:50] it's only for external.
[4:59:51] >> okay, thank you.
[4:59:53] >> no problem.
[4:59:54] >> any other questions or comments?
[5:00:01] I see trustee solomon?
[5:00:03] >> yes, I was just figuring out how to
[5:00:06] up bridge my comments from what I plan
[5:00:09] to what I'll do because I have some of
[5:00:12] the same concerns earlier speakers
[5:00:16] have expressed about the state's
[5:00:19] auditor letter and I know of five or
[5:00:22] six years of our projected ending fund
[5:00:29] balances in our adopted budgets being
[5:00:33] from 7.5 million to 22 million dollars
[5:00:36] more than we budgeted for, that's a
[5:00:38] concern I have about accuracy and so I
[5:00:44] do think, you know, in my first year
[5:00:48] on the board, I don't think I could
[5:00:50] have dreamed of having a 10.9% reserve
[5:00:57] which wre going to have in --
[5:00:59] projected to have in 29-30.
[5:01:02] I didn't think it could get that -- we
[5:01:04] worked hard to build our reserves, but
[5:01:07] I do want to emphasize that we need to
[5:01:11] keep our eyes on the prize.
[5:01:13] we've done that work because some of
[5:01:14] that is in the service of transition
[5:01:17] to the student centered funding
[5:01:19] formula that will come upon us in
[5:01:24] 29-30.
[5:01:25] we have to make sure our budget
[5:01:29] projections -- we have to increase
[5:01:31] enrollment by at least 2% each year.
[5:01:34] >> thank you.
[5:01:41] I will adjust a few things, just my
[5:01:44] quick thoughts that I'm having.
[5:01:49] one of the things I was looking at in
[5:01:51] one of the budget documents, I want to
[5:01:54] make sure that's sorted, it's not
[5:01:55] here, but with the free city
[5:01:58] projections, are we projecting it at
[5:01:59] the amount that the city has it at the
[5:02:05] 9.3 and not the 6 point something?
[5:02:08] >> we are projecting a 9.3.
[5:02:10] >> okay, great.
[5:02:11] and then I think -- yeah, I think I
[5:02:15] just want to build off of trustee
[5:02:18] solomon's points as well.
[5:02:20] I mean, we have to stay very steady
[5:02:22] for the next few years.
[5:02:24] I think this is painting a very clear
[5:02:29] picture and, you know, I think we're
[5:02:31] going to rely on you all, everyone, I
[5:02:34] think to help us steer this ship and
[5:02:38] figure out how we're going to make
[5:02:41] sure we're sustainable.
[5:02:44] and then I think -- I just keep
[5:02:47] looking at 29-30, that year is giving
[5:02:49] me so much anxiety, I'm going to name
[5:02:51] it.
[5:02:52] we need to think about the parcel tax
[5:02:54] for 2028, we have to think about free
[5:02:56] city ending in 2029, we have to think
[5:02:58] about this that's going to happen
[5:03:00] around that time so I think it's
[5:03:02] really incumbent on all of us to make
[5:03:05] sure we're all staying on top of this.
[5:03:07] I think we all collectively have a
[5:03:10] responsibility to figure out how we
[5:03:12] know this is coming, right, and
[5:03:15] there's different levers everybody's
[5:03:17] pulling, I think the board can play a
[5:03:19] role with the parcel tax and making
[5:03:22] sure we figure that piece out and we
[5:03:25] don't let that blind side the
[5:03:27] institution.
[5:03:28] so, I just really appreciate this
[5:03:32] projection and this conversation and
[5:03:37] it's going to be interesting for the
[5:03:39] next few years but I feel pretty
[5:03:42] confident we can collectively figure
[5:03:44] this out.
[5:03:49] if there are no -- if there's no
[5:03:55] additional comments, I will do another
[5:03:59] round robin, trustee chung, if you
[5:04:00] would like to --
[5:04:02] >> I'll condense my comments and not
[5:04:05] go into detailed questions, I will
[5:04:09] put it in an e-mail form and bug you
[5:04:13] there, I'm sorry about that in advance.
[5:04:18] and thank you to my colleagues here
[5:04:22] for chairing -- sharing some of -- to
[5:04:29] share the vision for the work we've
[5:04:33] been doing these last few years as to
[5:04:36] whether or not I've agreed to it or
[5:04:38] not, the board has agreed to build up
[5:04:46] the reserves in order to survive in
[5:04:47] this period of time where we are not
[5:04:48] on stiff, this was intentional, and I
[5:04:50] do think that -- and I know vc carter,
[5:04:53] you are joining us, and so it is
[5:04:56] appropriate for you to frame it in
[5:05:00] this lens for how our reserves are
[5:05:02] going to be used up but I also want to
[5:05:07] emphasize just as some of my
[5:05:08] colleagues have said, this was
[5:05:10] intentional, this was the plan.
[5:05:11] we were going to be -- and I think --
[5:05:16] I often worry sometimes our budget
[5:05:18] language confuses the public because
[5:05:20] when you say we're deficit spend, that
[5:05:22] sounds awful.
[5:05:25] that sounds like -- there's not a
[5:05:31] clear understanding around -- we have
[5:05:32] our reserves in order to do this
[5:05:34] because we weren't going to get any
[5:05:36] additional revenue from the state to a
[5:05:38] significant amount, so -- and I think
[5:05:41] what is missing in this presentation
[5:05:43] though is the framework, we're doing
[5:05:47] this in order for us to eventually
[5:05:50] receive student centered funding.
[5:05:51] that was the whole point, and that
[5:05:53] part of the graph is missing, right.
[5:05:56] I know it's further out, it's 2031
[5:06:02] and on, but I think that's important
[5:06:04] for us to state is that it's not a
[5:06:07] decline, this is a temporary -- this
[5:06:12] was intentional increase in reserves
[5:06:13] for the last few years and then it's
[5:06:15] going to be a slight decline before we
[5:06:19] stabilize the entire institution, that
[5:06:20] was the point.
[5:06:21] >> if I may, I think it's true and
[5:06:23] it's important to rei rate that that
[5:06:29] was the purpose behind this and I
[5:06:30] think that's very important.
[5:06:31] I do also think that projections beyond
[5:06:32] three years are dangerous.
[5:06:34] we tried to do five, so we believe, we
[5:06:37] hope, we are planning for being fully
[5:06:40] benefiting from the scff 29-30, but
[5:06:43] there are a lot of factors that
[5:06:45] contribute to that, so -- and again
[5:06:47] once we do that, we still have to wait
[5:06:50] for the academic year to happen, so we
[5:06:54] did -- you all did and I joined in and
[5:06:56] I agree with this deliberate strategy
[5:06:59] to have enough reserves to get us
[5:07:01] through that but if we don't change a
[5:07:03] lot of other things that we're
[5:07:05] doing, that the point is to try to get
[5:07:07] us to that space and what I'm trying
[5:07:09] to say is four years out or five years
[5:07:15] out, we agree that our projections
[5:07:18] aren't accurate at the end, but we are
[5:07:20] doing our best.
[5:07:21] I agree the board has worked hard with
[5:07:22] the college to ensure we have enough
[5:07:25] reserves, to bridge that gap but we
[5:07:27] still have to be careful because
[5:07:29] otherwise we won't make it to that gap.
[5:07:35] >> and I -- from everything I've seen
[5:07:38] from this board and this current
[5:07:39] administration, I have every faith
[5:07:41] that is happening, what I do sense
[5:07:43] that is often missing is a roll-back
[5:07:48] of innovation and push for us to build
[5:07:53] that enrollment as quickly as -- as
[5:07:56] quickly -- you know, given our taste
[5:08:00] for risk as it comes because I'll
[5:08:03] bring this up because I do think it's
[5:08:05] important and this is why I was so
[5:08:08] nitpicky, besides the specific numbers
[5:08:09] and why I was nitpicky about it.
[5:08:12] every time we've seen projections year
[5:08:14] after year at in district, we've seen
[5:08:17] a significant gap between the actual
[5:08:19] and what is adopted in our budget
[5:08:22] around this time of year.
[5:08:25] it's between three and 10 million in
[5:08:29] difference year after year across mull
[5:08:31] pl administrations.
[5:08:32] it's concerning because we lose out on
[5:08:35] opportunity to invest in our
[5:08:36] enrollment but the other piece to
[5:08:38] this, when you look at the summary and
[5:08:40] as we've had conversations about
[5:08:42] enrollment engagement, the plan we
[5:08:44] received early on when vc yee and dr.
[5:08:49] cooper wilkins were together and
[5:08:51] worked on this plan that took a whole
[5:08:55] year was that the goal -- it was a
[5:08:59] commitment to have an enrollment
[5:09:02] increase by 3% and a reach of 5 but
[5:09:05] even within this budget report, it
[5:09:07] says 2-3 and there's no mention of 5.
[5:09:09] I have seen a roll back of this
[5:09:12] understanding that we can -- that is
[5:09:16] just my statement, I won't ask further
[5:09:19] questions, I needed to make that
[5:09:20] statement.
[5:09:21] >> president chisti, I know this is
[5:09:23] very important, we're about 11 minutes
[5:09:25] over on this item.
[5:09:27] >> okay, thank you.
[5:09:29] >> you're welcome.
[5:09:30] >> trustee ferguson, trustee mccarty
[5:09:33] and student trustee wong.
[5:09:34] >> I will try to make it brief, I want
[5:09:38] to say thank you, I know you're in
[5:09:41] what, month two, one?
[5:09:42] >> I think I'm in month two.
[5:09:45] >> yeah, I am.
[5:09:47] >> thank you for hitting the ground
[5:09:52] running and we all know that there are
[5:09:57] big challenges at every community
[5:09:59] college and this one, so thank you for
[5:10:02] jumping right on in.
[5:10:03] I think since joining this board, I
[5:10:05] feel like every single meet, we have
[5:10:09] centered ourselves around growing
[5:10:10] enrollment and the understanding that
[5:10:12] we must grow our enrollment and that
[5:10:15] like especially other urban community
[5:10:16] colleges in the stay, we are facing
[5:10:18] challenges in trying to do that and
[5:10:23] I am happy that is something we are
[5:10:27] constantly focused on that.
[5:10:29] deficit spending is scary, it is very
[5:10:32] scary and there are realities that we
[5:10:35] have to face.
[5:10:37] I understand that building the
[5:10:38] reserves is the only reason why we
[5:10:40] hopefully won't be taken over by the
[5:10:42] state and I am grateful as a newer
[5:10:46] trustee to my colleagues who made
[5:10:47] decisions before I joined the board
[5:10:49] that I think were the right decisions
[5:10:51] to make sure that we were doing what
[5:10:54] was financially responsible so in a
[5:10:56] moment like right now and in the
[5:10:58] future where hopefully we'll look
[5:11:01] rosier but we also know we have some
[5:11:03] challenges that are anticipated in
[5:11:04] front of us, I am grail we will have
[5:11:08] some flexibility for spending there,
[5:11:09] so I wanted to say all that, thank
[5:11:14] you, this is not rainbows all around
[5:11:16] and it's what we have to work with
[5:11:19] and I hope we can continue to come
[5:11:21] together to focus on the things we say
[5:11:23] we're focusing on is growing our
[5:11:26] enrollment and getting a more growing
[5:11:28] and stable budget.
[5:11:29] >> okay, thank you, trustee mccarty?
[5:11:31] >> thank you, trustee ferguson, I will
[5:11:33] add in on a slightly different topic.
[5:11:36] I just -- first, thank you for the
[5:11:38] present takes, I super appreciate it
[5:11:41] and welcome to month two here.
[5:11:43] I think maybe a lot of what you're
[5:11:46] hearing from my colleague, trustee
[5:11:48] chung, and some of the public
[5:11:50] comments, I think there's a lack of
[5:11:55] trust in financials, and vc ligoso
[5:11:59] when he was here made a lot of headway
[5:12:04] about unwinding that and making things
[5:12:05] clearer and making things more
[5:12:06] accessible and making sure we're
[5:12:08] billing things from the right funds and
[5:12:10] trying to do a lot of lay that ground
[5:12:13] work.
[5:12:14] before he came, there was this long
[5:12:17] history of misrepresenting numbers and
[5:12:19] that what came and what came out from
[5:12:23] budgets never aligned, aft has a
[5:12:24] great document that tracks that,
[5:12:26] tracks how the projections have been
[5:12:28] historically off so I think that's
[5:12:29] part of maybe what you're hearing is
[5:12:33] that larger thing and I want so say
[5:12:35] that's not a reflection on you, please
[5:12:37] don't take that personally, we
[5:12:38] have a lot of trust issues, everyone's
[5:12:41] working on it and it's one of the
[5:12:43] things I think vc ligoso did well, he
[5:12:46] would flag, hey, I said this is what
[5:12:48] the surplus was going to be but I
[5:12:50] think we might get some extra money
[5:12:52] over here, that number's probably
[5:12:54] going to change so he was transparent
[5:12:58] about what was happening last year, so
[5:13:01] I will share that as an example of
[5:13:05] what your predecessor did.
[5:13:07] >> thank you, noted.
[5:13:10] >> student trustee wong?
[5:13:11] >> I was wondering what the cola meant
[5:13:14] and then in that come lum, why the
[5:13:17] adopted budget for this year is a
[5:13:19] whole percent higher than the
[5:13:22] projected of next year's and then so
[5:13:24] on.
[5:13:25] >> sure, cola is our cost of living
[5:13:27] increase, so that's basically coming
[5:13:29] down from the state, tells us how much
[5:13:31] more we're going to receive in
[5:13:32] revenue, so again that cola is 4.31%
[5:13:36] in 26-27 but since we're a district
[5:13:39] that's in hold harmless, we don't get
[5:13:41] to take advantage of it all the time,
[5:13:43] but in certain areas we do, so we keep
[5:13:45] track on the historical side of it.
[5:13:47] and then you stated the extra 1%,
[5:13:50] where was it?
[5:13:53] >> [inaudible]
[5:13:54] >> just be sure to turn on your mic..
[5:13:58] >> for this year, it's at 4.31%, next
[5:14:01] year's projected is 3.06.
[5:14:05] >> 4.31% which was approved and
[5:14:07] received by the state.
[5:14:09] we're projecting over the next few
[5:14:10] years, it can be approximately 3% but
[5:14:12] again that can change due to whatever
[5:14:15] the state governors or our economy is
[5:14:17] doing here in california, yeah.
[5:14:19] >> thank you.
[5:14:20] >> of course.
[5:14:21] >> okay.
[5:14:28] seeing no further discussion on this
[5:14:30] item, I'm going to go ahead and
[5:14:34] conclude discussion.
[5:14:35] again, we are going to be adopting
[5:14:38] this at the next meeting which we'll
[5:14:40] have to take a vote on.
[5:14:45] discussion on this item is now closed.
[5:14:48] let's see, where are we?
[5:14:51] if you could please call the next item.
[5:14:53] >> of course, this is item 9, open
[5:14:57] session, action items, 9a is the
[5:14:59] resolution authorizing
[5:15:03] employee layoffs due to a lack of
[5:15:04] work of the human resources operations
[5:15:07] team to support a generalist survey
[5:15:12] delivery model.
[5:15:13] >> this is being pulled from the
[5:15:15] agenda and will appear at the next
[5:15:18] regularly scheduled board meeting.
[5:15:20] let's keep moving.
[5:15:22] >> 9b is entitled approval of the
[5:15:25] board of trustee meeting minutes, may
[5:15:30] 7, may 28, june 5, june 11, june 25th
[5:15:36] and august 13th meetings.
[5:15:38] >> we are calling these meeting
[5:15:40] minutes together.
[5:15:41] before I open this up for discussion
[5:15:43] or entertain a motion, is there any
[5:15:49] public comment on all of the meeting
[5:15:50] minutes here?
[5:15:51] >> there is no public comment on item
[5:15:54] 9b.
[5:15:55] >> alright.
[5:15:57] colleagues, is there a motion to
[5:16:01] approve the meeting minutes from may
[5:16:04] 7, may 28, june 5, june 11, june 25,
[5:16:08] august 13?
[5:16:09] >> so moved.
[5:16:10] >> moved by v.p. Zamora.
[5:16:11] >> second.
[5:16:17] >> seconded by trustee ferguson.
[5:16:18] any discussion?
[5:16:24] alright.
[5:16:25] >> I did want to say something before
[5:16:26] we vote.
[5:16:27] >> I am going to approve all of them
[5:16:28] but in full transparency, I'm going
[5:16:33] reserve the right to vote on this
[5:16:34] since I will be voting on the
[5:16:36] prevailing side because the minutes
[5:16:38] are very long, I tried very hard to
[5:16:40] get through all of them and I didn't,
[5:16:41] so I think they're okay but I just
[5:16:45] wanted -- I didn't want that kind of
[5:16:46] surprise.
[5:16:47] >> okay.
[5:16:48] say that one more time.
[5:16:50] >> I'm going to vote yes to approve
[5:16:53] the minutes.
[5:16:54] >> okay, got it.
[5:16:55] >> I'm going to give myself a little
[5:16:57] time to see if we have any concerns of
[5:17:00] the ones we vote on, if you vote on
[5:17:02] the prevailing side, you can bring it
[5:17:04] back to the floor and I'll let you
[5:17:07] know ahead of time.
[5:17:08] >> okay, sounds good.
[5:17:09] >> okay.
[5:17:13] >> so, let's go ahead and do a roll
[5:17:15] call on this.
[5:17:17] >> of course.
[5:17:18] student trustee wong?
[5:17:20] >> aye.
[5:17:21] >> president chisti?
[5:17:22] >> aye.
[5:17:23] >> trustee chung?
[5:17:24] >> aye.
[5:17:25] >> trustee ferguson?
[5:17:26] >> aye.
[5:17:27] >> trustee martinez?
[5:17:28] >> yes.
[5:17:29] >> trustee mccarty?
[5:17:30] >> aye.
[5:17:31] >> trustee solomon?
[5:17:32] >> aye.
[5:17:33] >> v.p. Zamora?
[5:17:34] >> aye.
[5:17:35] >> item passes.
[5:17:36] >> these meeting minutes are approved.
[5:17:38] I'm going to gavel, yay, sorry.
[5:17:40] next item which is consideration and
[5:17:44] approval -- sorry, can you please call
[5:17:47] it.
[5:17:48] >> 9c is consideration and approval to
[5:17:49] call a special meeting of the board of
[5:17:53] trustees on the september 10, 2026 for
[5:17:55] approval of the fiscal 2026-2027
[5:17:58] budget.
[5:17:59] >> this is what I was referencing, and
[5:18:01] so we have this item also agendized
[5:18:03] for members of the public so they're
[5:18:06] aware that we're going to be having
[5:18:09] this special meeting and we wanted to
[5:18:12] provide advanced notice of this
[5:18:15] meeting.
[5:18:16] before I ask for a motion on this, do
[5:18:19] we have any public comment?
[5:18:21] >> there is no public comment on 9c.
[5:18:25] >> alright, any discussion or
[5:18:27] chancellor, if there's anything you
[5:18:28] would like to reiterate for clarity --
[5:18:30] >> I had a question, obviously we're
[5:18:32] doing this so we can be able to vote
[5:18:35] on the 10th before the september 15th
[5:18:38] deadline.
[5:18:39] my question is the next meeting that
[5:18:42] is traditionally our business meeting,
[5:18:44] will that remain a business meeting?
[5:18:48] >> yes, sorry.
[5:18:49] >> yes, so the intention is to
[5:18:53] open the special meeting, we'll vote
[5:18:56] on the budget, then close that meeting
[5:18:58] and open a committee of the whole and
[5:19:00] then the business meeting will still
[5:19:01] be --
[5:19:02] >> thank you.
[5:19:03] >> alright.
[5:19:04] is there a motion to call a special
[5:19:14] meeting --
[5:19:15] >> so moved.
[5:19:16] >> second.
[5:19:17] >> okay.
[5:19:18] motion made by trustee solomon,
[5:19:22] seconded by trustee mccarty.
[5:19:25] seeing no further discussion --
[5:19:28] >> sorry, president chisti, I have a
[5:19:31] question, typically with special meet,
[5:19:33] we only require the 24 hour
[5:19:35] requirement around the agenda, though
[5:19:37] if we are voting on the --
[5:19:40] particularly if the intention is on
[5:19:42] the budget, if -- I don't know if
[5:19:45] there's some way for me to request --
[5:19:49] >> we will do it much earlier than
[5:19:51] that.
[5:19:52] >> thank you.
[5:19:53] >> yes, we're going to do it before
[5:19:55] the 24 hours so members of the public
[5:19:58] can view -- yes?
[5:19:59] >> my understanding based on vc carter
[5:20:02] is that september 1 is around when
[5:20:05] we'll see the book.
[5:20:08] >> alright.
[5:20:10] awesome, seeing no further discussion,
[5:20:13] if there's no objection, I'm going to
[5:20:16] take that by acclimation, this is
[5:20:18] approved for the board to have a
[5:20:20] special meeting on september 10, 2026
[5:20:23] for the purpose of considering the
[5:20:26] fiscal year 26-27 budget passage.
[5:20:30] alright.
[5:20:31] I'm going to now -- now we are at
[5:20:36] consent.
[5:20:37] mr. Shemansky, if we could please call
[5:20:41] the consent agenda.
[5:20:42] >> this is items 10-16, 10a to f is
[5:20:47] consent action items for sfccd travel
[5:20:53] requests.
[5:20:54] 11a through j is consent action items
[5:20:56] for academic and institutional affairs
[5:20:59] division, 12a to b is for celebratory
[5:21:03] resolutions, 13a is also a consent
[5:21:05] action item from general counsel, 14a
[5:21:07] to b is consent action items for
[5:21:11] finance and administration, 15a to I
[5:21:13] is consent action items facilities and
[5:21:18] buildings/grounds and lastly is 16a to
[5:21:20] d, consent action items from human
[5:21:22] resources.
[5:21:23] >> okay.
[5:21:26] so, I am going to take public comment
[5:21:28] on the entire consent agenda, the
[5:21:34] first question I have, I'm going to
[5:21:35] have two questions for trustees, the
[5:21:36] first question is if there is an item
[5:21:38] that you would like to pull for a
[5:21:41] separate vote, any tenses here that
[5:21:42] you would like to pull for a separate
[5:21:45] vote.
[5:21:46] then the next question I will is a
[5:21:49] separate discussion, the first one, a
[5:21:51] separate vote.
[5:21:52] trustee solomon?
[5:21:56] >> thank you, I would like to pull 13a
[5:21:59] and 16a.
[5:22:00] >> okay, 13 a and 16a.
[5:22:12] that's for a separate vote, okay.
[5:22:18] trustee martinez?
[5:22:24] >> for separate discussion only, 12a.
[5:22:28] >> 12a, it's discussion only.
[5:22:34] okay, anything else?
[5:22:35] I have one.
[5:22:37] and I'm sorry, I need to -- yeah, it's
[5:22:42] the facilities one, whichever one has
[5:22:44] evans on it, 15?
[5:22:45] >> that would be 15.
[5:22:47] >> 15 a I think.
[5:22:53] was it 15a?
[5:22:54] >> no.
[5:22:56] >> 15 something.
[5:22:57] yeah, 15h.
[5:23:04] 15h for discussion purposes only.
[5:23:08] okay.
[5:23:09] we are going to take public comment on
[5:23:14] the entire consent agenda including
[5:23:18] the items that are pulled for a
[5:23:21] separate vote or discussion.
[5:23:22] this is public comment on the entire
[5:23:24] consent agenda, any public comment?
[5:23:26] >> there is, there's one, that's lydia
[5:23:30] hernandez, she's requesting to speak
[5:23:32] on 11 ark, 11d and 12a.
[5:23:34] >> alright.
[5:23:41] >> so, first I would like you to
[5:23:44] consider that if there's items that
[5:23:48] are being pulled, give the public an
[5:23:49] opportunity to speak on these items.
[5:23:51] I'm not saying this is what's
[5:23:53] happening but this could be used as a
[5:23:58] method of silencing when there's not
[5:24:02] an opportunity to speak and there's
[5:24:04] such a long list of these items and I
[5:24:06] did have a few things.
[5:24:08] so, I have a resolution that I would
[5:24:10] like to read.
[5:24:11] it is in support of designating the
[5:24:17] flex day as indigenous peoples' day,
[5:24:22] where as it occupies the land of the
[5:24:26] ohlone people, to honor the original
[5:24:28] stewards of this land and whereas the
[5:24:30] city and county of san francisco
[5:24:34] established indigenous peoples into
[5:24:39] recognize the historical experiences,
[5:24:40] trauma and contributions of native
[5:24:41] peoples and whereas dedicated time for
[5:24:43] faculty and staff to engage with
[5:24:45] indigenous history is essential for
[5:24:47] advancing the cultural humility and
[5:24:51] institutional support necessary for
[5:24:52] indigenous students to thrive,
[5:24:54] therefore be it resolved the board of
[5:24:57] trustees amend the city college of san
[5:25:02] francisco calendar to have -- to
[5:25:06] cultural humility historical truth and
[5:25:08] be it further resolve it is academic
[5:25:10] senate requested to explore
[5:25:13] professional development programming
[5:25:16] focused on indigenous sovereignty,
[5:25:18] ramaytush ohlone people and having the
[5:25:21] support for indigenous students.
[5:25:22] and I also would like to say that we
[5:25:25] are also in -- there's a month for
[5:25:29] hispanic heritage month and if we are
[5:25:34] truly being -- honoring and
[5:25:36] celebrating, again, we need to move
[5:25:37] past just words, we need to move past
[5:25:40] plans and we need to actually respect
[5:25:44] and try to assist and try to respect
[5:25:50] the contributions that hispanic people
[5:25:52] have made for this city and for this
[5:25:55] country and for this college, thank
[5:25:56] you.
[5:25:57] >> thank you, lydia.
[5:25:59] president chisti, that concludes
[5:26:00] public comment.
[5:26:01] >> thank you so much, public comment
[5:26:02] on the consent agenda is now closed.
[5:26:07] I am going to -- we are going to go
[5:26:12] ahead and have discussion on the items
[5:26:15] that were pulled for discussion and
[5:26:17] then we will have a motion to vote on
[5:26:21] all of those items and then we will
[5:26:24] take the two separate items that were
[5:26:26] pulled by trustee solomon for a
[5:26:29] separate vote, 13a and 16a, and we
[5:26:32] will do separate votes on that.
[5:26:33] so, let's go ahead and begin
[5:26:35] discussion on the items that were
[5:26:37] pulled in order which was I believe
[5:26:42] 12a.
[5:26:44] >> thank you, I asked to have this
[5:26:47] pulled simply because I wanted to make
[5:26:51] sure we understand the significance of
[5:26:55] this particular resolution.
[5:26:56] when I was first on the board, I wrote
[5:26:59] a resolution very similar to this and
[5:27:03] noted two people in particular, jose
[5:27:09] dejesus who was or last latino mayor.
[5:27:13] a long time, isn't it, given the
[5:27:15] population of this city, and juana who
[5:27:22] was a founding mother of san
[5:27:24] francisco, she's also recognized as
[5:27:28] someone who owned the land which is
[5:27:29] now north beach and land all the way
[5:27:32] to palo alto and of course that land
[5:27:35] was lost when other settlers came in,
[5:27:38] so that in particular I wanted to
[5:27:43] notice and finally in this particular
[5:27:46] resolution, we recognize the folks who
[5:27:51] -- the latinos and latinas who have
[5:27:54] served on this board and it took until
[5:27:58] 1980 to elect a latino to the board.
[5:28:02] and I think this is the first time
[5:28:07] when vice-president zamora was elected
[5:28:09] that there have been two of us on the
[5:28:11] board and I think that that's
[5:28:14] significant given the size of the
[5:28:16] student population here in san
[5:28:21] francisco.
[5:28:22] so, colejio was the first time
[5:28:31] there was credit classless offered and
[5:28:35] that was a bridge to offer education,
[5:28:37] the idea was students would start
[5:28:39] taking the classes in the mission
[5:28:41] district, they would feel very
[5:28:43] welcomed as city college students and
[5:28:45] then they would come here to the ocean
[5:28:49] campus and this also -- I don't know,
[5:28:55] dr. El portio is being recognized,
[5:29:00] mission campus has always had healthy
[5:29:02] enrollment and I hope it continues to
[5:29:04] have that.
[5:29:05] I'll add one other comment about --
[5:29:07] and I know I did not pull this one,
[5:29:09] but it's in response to a comment that
[5:29:12] was made about designating october 12
[5:29:17] to honor indigenous history.
[5:29:20] at one time, october 12 became -- was
[5:29:25] celebrated as a holiday, as a college
[5:29:28] holiday but not in honor of someone
[5:29:32] who thought he had come to india, but
[5:29:35] in honor of the people who were living
[5:29:38] in the americas and that ceased to be
[5:29:42] a holiday a long time ago here at city
[5:29:44] college and those are the comments I
[5:29:46] wanted to make.
[5:29:47] >> thank you so much.
[5:29:51] this is on 12a, trustee chung?
[5:29:56] >> thank you, trustee martinez.
[5:29:58] I also wanted to thank the individuals
[5:30:02] or individual that worked on this
[5:30:03] resolution.
[5:30:04] I don't know if it was because of the
[5:30:07] summer break, it's every resolution I
[5:30:10] think I've ever hoped this resolution
[5:30:12] would look like.
[5:30:13] >> I think there were a lot of people
[5:30:15] who contributed in many ways, the
[5:30:18] credit goes to steven she mans --
[5:30:26] shemansky.
[5:30:27] >> thank you for making this happen.
[5:30:28] >> and I also realized when speaking
[5:30:32] with former student chancellor heather
[5:30:35] brandt is that I understand that as I
[5:30:39] have mentioned before, the hope is to
[5:30:43] be able to share some of the events
[5:30:45] and community events that are
[5:30:46] happening on campus as we -- so that
[5:30:49] resolutions are not just so
[5:30:52] superficial but I also understand
[5:30:54] for the safety of our students that
[5:30:56] might have not been shared publicly,
[5:30:59] but if that information could be
[5:31:01] shared with trustees through e-mail in
[5:31:03] some way so we can celebrate with the
[5:31:06] student, that would be great.
[5:31:07] >> alright, thank you so much.
[5:31:12] alright, discussion for 12a has
[5:31:15] concluded.
[5:31:16] I think the next item is the one that
[5:31:19] I would like to discuss which was 15h
[5:31:24] and this is the -- if you could call
[5:31:28] that item.
[5:31:29] >> sure, 15h is the authorization to
[5:31:32] increase the professional services
[5:31:35] contract with gelfand partners
[5:31:37] architects for furniture coordination
[5:31:39] and consulting services associated
[5:31:40] with the evans center modernization
[5:31:43] project.
[5:31:44] >> thank you.
[5:31:45] yeah, the reason I pulled this, I was
[5:31:47] trying to understand, we heard some
[5:31:49] things related to the evans center and
[5:31:53] wanted to just better understand how
[5:31:57] the policy that's mentioned in
[5:32:01] this item in relation to pla and just
[5:32:03] some of the things we heard today.
[5:32:07] >> yeah, I'm -- I don't know if
[5:32:11] alberto was ill tonight so I'm not
[5:32:13] sure if he's still online, he is,
[5:32:15] okay, great.
[5:32:17] we'll have avc vasquez as well as vc
[5:32:22] carter can talk about the policies and
[5:32:24] processes and the bidding.
[5:32:26] >> I hope you're feeling better.
[5:32:28] >> yes, I am, thank you, and good
[5:32:31] evening, trustees.
[5:32:34] >> so, if you could perhaps just talk
[5:32:39] about what the rules and regulations
[5:32:41] that we use in terms of bidding in
[5:32:43] general and how they were done with
[5:32:44] this project I think is the question.
[5:32:48] >> okay, no, thank you, I will follow
[5:32:50] up, and I did hear the comments from
[5:32:52] the gentleman that were there this
[5:32:54] evening and I will also make sure to
[5:32:56] connect with the contractor and get a
[5:32:58] better understanding and clarification
[5:33:00] of that occurrence that they described.
[5:33:02] we don't want that to be happening on
[5:33:05] our project sites.
[5:33:06] just in terms of our project bidding
[5:33:13] processes, we have project labor
[5:33:14] agreement which has a more specific
[5:33:18] focus on the individual labor in the
[5:33:22] community, it's not necessarily a
[5:33:25] business enterprise item, it's more
[5:33:27] greed towards a union and the union
[5:33:30] workers but that project la project
[5:33:33] labor agreement.
[5:33:36] giant construction was -- as we bid
[5:33:38] the project out early in the spring,
[5:33:40] we to our normal processes of
[5:33:43] advertising out.
[5:33:46] we do have an slbe program where we're
[5:33:52] targeting 30% requirement either
[5:33:54] through their own company or through
[5:33:59] their subcontractors and the company
[5:34:01] that they -- the giant, they did
[5:34:03] exceed that goal of up to 33%, the
[5:34:07] goal was 30% and we have that for our
[5:34:10] construction bids and also our other
[5:34:14] consultant rfp's as well.
[5:34:16] so, in that sense, they also go
[5:34:19] through the process of outreaching to
[5:34:24] some local newspapers and through
[5:34:26] their own methods of -- through their
[5:34:30] own website and also outreach -- they
[5:34:33] do have -- I'm trying to get to it on
[5:34:36] my notes here.
[5:34:39] give me two seconds here.
[5:34:44] they outreach through their plan bids
[5:34:52] and also through other organizations
[5:34:56] in the city and around the bay area
[5:34:58] because the list of subcontractors
[5:35:00] that giant has and it's a competitive
[5:35:02] bid and we follow the lowest and --
[5:35:09] god, I'm trying to go back on the
[5:35:11] terms, it's late, lowest and most
[5:35:13] responsible bidder and they have to be
[5:35:15] responsible to make sure they're
[5:35:17] making their selection based on their
[5:35:26] selection for their contractor, so
[5:35:28] typically we have a list of different
[5:35:30] vendors on this project that are --
[5:35:33] there's 7 vendors, five vendors from
[5:35:35] san francisco and others throughout
[5:35:37] other parts of the bay area but the
[5:35:40] parent company, giant, is an oakland
[5:35:42] based contractor.
[5:35:43] we're not able to as a public
[5:35:50] contract code, it's open to anybody in
[5:35:52] the city and state to bid on projects.
[5:35:57] >> thank you for that.
[5:35:58] and I know that you're also not
[5:36:00] feeling well, so thank you so much for
[5:36:02] helping answer some of these questions.
[5:36:05] I think I have to be honest, yeah, and
[5:36:09] maybe this will be something we can do
[5:36:12] as a board record or a written item
[5:36:15] because I would really like to
[5:36:18] understand the slbe policy a bit more
[5:36:21] as it relates to this site and then
[5:36:27] also just the intersection of that
[5:36:30] with pla, I'm not sure if I'm
[5:36:32] completely following, just a little
[5:36:33] bit more of an understanding of that,
[5:36:35] I would maybe if that could be
[5:36:37] something for the board.
[5:36:41] >> avc carter has something.
[5:36:43] >> understanding there's vendors out
[5:36:45] there that want to do business with us
[5:36:47] and we have an opportunity to
[5:36:52] leverage our technology to bring on
[5:36:53] technology where we're able to invite
[5:36:54] vendors especially if they have certain
[5:36:56] classifications, that's what we're
[5:36:58] exploring now, we're exploring
[5:37:00] new technology that will help us with
[5:37:02] our rfp process, our bidding process,
[5:37:05] making awareness out there, sending
[5:37:07] the invitation out as opposed to using
[5:37:10] the sf examiner and say go find this,
[5:37:13] it's us going out and reaching out to
[5:37:14] our community.
[5:37:16] when we'll bring this back, we'll
[5:37:18] bring it back with the presentation of
[5:37:23] the new technology that's going to
[5:37:24] align and make sure we're in
[5:37:25] compliance with anything we have in
[5:37:26] our policies.
[5:37:27] >> and I think we can bring a
[5:37:29] presentation back that's planned when
[5:37:32] avc vasquez is feeling better that
[5:37:35] talks about the components those
[5:37:38] things.
[5:37:39] that policy created a target, a goal
[5:37:41] of having 30% of the workers be from
[5:37:46] local things, so that's -- and this
[5:37:49] particular project, it was 32%,
[5:37:52] comparing that with the regulatory
[5:37:57] things, we can bring that back as a
[5:37:58] presentation.
[5:37:59] >> or it could be a written report
[5:38:00] that could lead to a presentation,
[5:38:02] breaking it down, what does local
[5:38:04] mean, how is it defined, is there a
[5:38:07] particular radius of that.
[5:38:08] the other thing that I will just say,
[5:38:10] some of the things that I heard was a
[5:38:13] bit concerning so I appreciate you
[5:38:16] following up with the contractor
[5:38:18] because at the end of day, they are
[5:38:20] representing the institution and so
[5:38:23] some of the things that unfolded, so
[5:38:25] yeah, I do appreciate you looking into
[5:38:27] that.
[5:38:28] >> okay.
[5:38:29] >> alright, that was it for me.
[5:38:34] okay.
[5:38:35] seeing no further discussion on this
[5:38:38] item, I am going to ask for a --
[5:38:43] >> thank you, alberto, you can go to
[5:38:46] sleep now.
[5:38:47] >> thank you.
[5:38:48] >> feel better.
[5:38:49] I'm going to ask for a motion to
[5:38:53] approve the consent agenda which is
[5:39:00] 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 with a note
[5:39:08] that we are going to be voting on 13a
[5:39:12] and 16a separately, so this is the
[5:39:13] entire -- the motion that I am asking
[5:39:15] for is the entire consent agenda
[5:39:20] without 13a and 16a.
[5:39:21] >> so moved.
[5:39:22] >> moved by v.p. Zamora?
[5:39:23] >> second.
[5:39:24] >> seconded by trustee solomon.
[5:39:29] seeing no further discussion on this,
[5:39:30] I'm going to take that acclimation, so
[5:39:34] the consent agenda is approved minus
[5:39:38] 13a and 16a.
[5:39:39] alright.
[5:39:40] we have disposed of those.
[5:39:42] now we're going to come to 13a.
[5:39:43] trustee solomon?
[5:39:47] >> thank you, president chisti.
[5:39:50] I think I turned it from on to off
[5:39:53] just now.
[5:39:57] this is the approval of the aalrr
[5:40:04] contract and it's my understanding
[5:40:09] that most if not all of us trustees
[5:40:12] have expressed concerns about working
[5:40:15] with aalrr for purposes of this vote,
[5:40:18] I'll express my strong reservations
[5:40:22] about the problem that trustee
[5:40:27] martinez surfaced about having this as
[5:40:32] an open ended agreement about the
[5:40:33] total amount that will be spent on
[5:40:36] aalrr in that contract.
[5:40:37] I understand what we've budgeted for
[5:40:39] but I'm still uncomfortable with that.
[5:40:42] it was also my understanding that we
[5:40:45] as board were not hoping to add other
[5:40:51] firms to aalrr but to replace aalrr
[5:40:56] with other firms.
[5:40:58] as I recall when we approved their
[5:41:00] last contract, it wass so they could
[5:41:02] complete projects they were already
[5:41:04] working on but it seems to me they've
[5:41:07] taken on new projects and will
[5:41:08] continue to do so if we approve this
[5:41:15] contract.
[5:41:16] >> alright, thank you for that.
[5:41:18] looking over to general counsel.
[5:41:20] >> yes, so before I came, they were
[5:41:23] serving as general counsel, special
[5:41:26] counsel, litigation counsel, advising
[5:41:28] hr, labor negotiation, investigation,
[5:41:31] there were many realms of law plus a
[5:41:35] million different kinds -- so, when we
[5:41:36] asked them to take on a case, they
[5:41:38] assign it to a lawyer who's a
[5:41:40] specialist in that case, nobody is a
[5:41:47] specialist in everything, right.
[5:41:48] so, they are continuing to work on
[5:41:49] several ongoing things that preceded
[5:41:51] me that we need somebody to work on,
[5:41:55] if we pull them now, we would have to
[5:41:57] add somebody else, we don't have --
[5:42:00] and honestly the rates from what I
[5:42:04] have seen aren't horrible but I do
[5:42:06] think we're trying to wean ourselves
[5:42:08] off of them, so I haven't that I'm
[5:42:11] aware of assigned any new business to
[5:42:14] them.
[5:42:15] >> we have not.
[5:42:16] >> I just reviewed the invoice I got
[5:42:20] from them today and it's all matters
[5:42:23] that started before I got here.
[5:42:25] and then we do have a few attorneys
[5:42:28] who have been working on labor or
[5:42:31] things that have been -- hr has been
[5:42:35] happy with them, so I'm not inclined
[5:42:37] to pull them in the middle of
[5:42:39] negotiations, it doesn't make sense.
[5:42:41] I think that we would like to expand
[5:42:45] our pool of attorneys.
[5:42:49] that's definitely on my slate and this
[5:42:50] was the first contract because I have
[5:42:53] to get -- because we have ongoing
[5:42:55] matters with them, we have to continue
[5:42:56] to pay them, but I spoke with
[5:43:00] attorneys from in-house council from
[5:43:02] most of the other community colleges
[5:43:03] that have in-house counsel.
[5:43:06] they all use aalrr and lcw and they
[5:43:10] have a few independent attorneys they
[5:43:12] pick and choose from, so that was my
[5:43:14] plan was to imitate that and build up
[5:43:17] a slate of attorneys that we can go to
[5:43:19] who are competent in different areas,
[5:43:21] but I will say using them has been
[5:43:26] incredibly helpful because they can
[5:43:28] very, very quickly assign someone and
[5:43:31] handle something that needs
[5:43:35] handling right away.
[5:43:39] I have taken a number of cases and
[5:43:42] prelitigation issues and there's not
[5:43:45] enough hours in the day for me to
[5:43:48] respond and oversee every contract
[5:43:49] that comes across my desk.
[5:43:52] I haven't handed off anything to
[5:43:58] aalrr.
[5:43:59] >> so, I did check with hr and we are
[5:44:04] using aalrr, the negotiations which
[5:44:06] preceded that, we have not done any
[5:44:11] investigations with them, we've
[5:44:13] transitioned away from that.
[5:44:15] we have not reached out to them for
[5:44:18] new litigation so we are relying upon
[5:44:20] them for ongoing issues but we are
[5:44:23] slowly and you noticed that because
[5:44:24] more things have been coming to you,
[5:44:26] we are really trying to close things
[5:44:30] that have been open for a very long
[5:44:31] time so our intent is exactly that
[5:44:34] which is to use them for existing
[5:44:36] things other than as I said we are
[5:44:38] using them for the nobodies --
[5:44:42] negotiations which has been ongoing
[5:44:44] but we are not giving them -- we are
[5:44:46] doing our best and as far as I know,
[5:44:48] we have not given them new cases.
[5:44:50] >> I will say there have been a couple
[5:44:53] of small matters that I have asked
[5:44:55] them to handle which are not
[5:44:58] significant but we -- you know, the
[5:45:01] budget has decreased significantly in
[5:45:03] legal and it's scheduled to every
[5:45:05] year, so -- and part of that -- yeah,
[5:45:08] and part of that is from me being
[5:45:11] brought on board and so I would say
[5:45:14] they're definitely handling the range
[5:45:16] of issues that they were handling
[5:45:18] prior to me coming on board.
[5:45:21] and I will say even -- I don't know
[5:45:23] what was happening, I'm assuming they
[5:45:25] were handling all of the california
[5:45:27] public records request, I get many
[5:45:29] every day, it's incredible, that could
[5:45:32] just be one job.
[5:45:36] so, in fact, it is at a lot of the
[5:45:38] other colleges.
[5:45:40] >> it actually is.
[5:45:41] >> okay.
[5:45:42] trustee mccarty?
[5:45:45] >> yeah, you said something that
[5:45:48] sparked a question for me.
[5:45:50] so, what is -- if we're using them
[5:45:52] currently for our labor negotiations,
[5:45:54] what is the long term plan on that
[5:45:57] because that's a pretty expensive
[5:45:59] path to handle labor negotiations, we
[5:46:02] have multiple units so I'm wondering
[5:46:04] do we have a longer vision, if we're
[5:46:06] weaning off of them, what is the plan
[5:46:08] for that, which we may have one now,
[5:46:11] we may not.
[5:46:13] >> regardless of aalrr or not, the our
[5:46:19] labor partners have people who are
[5:46:21] 100% dedicated to labor relations and
[5:46:24] negotiations, and so we would be using
[5:46:28] our general counsel who doesn't have
[5:46:29] enough time to sleep and our hr person
[5:46:33] exclusively, so right now it's a much
[5:46:35] better way for us to be able to have
[5:46:40] the resources we need at the table.
[5:46:44] we're looking at what we can do but we
[5:46:46] don't have a specific plan right now.
[5:46:47] we don't have enough human power
[5:46:50] that's dedicated just to negotiations
[5:46:55] and so having that expertise along
[5:46:57] with obviously our hr professionals in
[5:47:02] the room, but even if we didn't use
[5:47:05] them at this point in time, we would
[5:47:07] need to be using someone.
[5:47:09] >> I would also say for a lot of the
[5:47:12] unions, christine is the lead and
[5:47:15] handling it solely and then if there's
[5:47:17] a legal issue, she'll pull me in.
[5:47:20] but -- so, for the majority of unions,
[5:47:23] we don't have outside counsel working
[5:47:24] on that.
[5:47:25] >> just for the negotiations?
[5:47:27] >> yeah.
[5:47:28] >> she was asking about the
[5:47:29] negotiations that we do have, an
[5:47:32] attorney as part of that?
[5:47:33] >> yes.
[5:47:36] >> is matt at everybody's table or no?
[5:47:40] >> he's aft and seiu.
[5:47:42] >> are we paying for outside legal
[5:47:44] counsel to be at the other tables?
[5:47:46] >> they're not at the other tables,
[5:47:48] they would be available for questions
[5:47:49] if christine had them but they're not
[5:47:51] at the table.
[5:47:52] >> and do we think, and you may not be
[5:47:58] there yet because you are also
[5:48:00] new, do we have a
[5:48:03] longer vision or model where we think
[5:48:06] we'll have local in-house leading
[5:48:08] negotiations or do you think model
[5:48:10] we're going to have is going to always
[5:48:13] be outside could've?
[5:48:14] >> I think we need to evaluate that,
[5:48:18] what that individual would be putting
[5:48:20] -- would there be a second internal
[5:48:23] attorney that focused on negotiations,
[5:48:25] so we are thinking about that but we
[5:48:27] don't have -- right now we're just
[5:48:28] going to get through this cycle and
[5:48:30] look at what works the best, but
[5:48:32] definitely open to looking at what is
[5:48:36] the most effective not only in terms
[5:48:38] of representing us but also in terms
[5:48:40] of our budget.
[5:48:42] >> and I think once we get past this
[5:48:44] year and we can look and see what
[5:48:46] we spent, we'll have a better
[5:48:49] understanding of what's the most cost
[5:48:50] effective way to address this.
[5:48:51] >> okay.
[5:48:57] trustee solomon?
[5:48:59] >> a follow-up question, so what is
[5:49:02] going on with trying to find other law
[5:49:09] firms?
[5:49:14] >> so, as I said, I reached tout other
[5:49:18] schools to see what they were doing
[5:49:20] and I'll probably follow up with some
[5:49:22] recommendations from them.
[5:49:27] so I'm still learning the contract
[5:49:30] approval process, but what I'm opining
[5:49:32] for is smaller firms and there's a few
[5:49:34] firms in the area I have worked with
[5:49:36] who I've been happy with so we may put
[5:49:40] out some requests for bids, but it's a
[5:49:46] little bit difficult with all of our
[5:49:48] rules around contracts to kind of get
[5:49:50] a specialized slate of people and
[5:49:54] interestingly for one of the issues
[5:49:57] that we're dealing with that we need
[5:50:01] somebody external, we interviewed
[5:50:03] three firms and the firm that we were
[5:50:05] going to go with originally was the
[5:50:08] least expensive.
[5:50:11] so, yeah, so we are still -- we're
[5:50:14] actively in process, we just went
[5:50:16] through that today.
[5:50:17] >> [inaudible]
[5:50:20] >> it's not a law firm, but yes.
[5:50:24] I do think we have lcw but I don't
[5:50:29] think it's on agenda today, but it's
[5:50:31] coming.
[5:50:32] >> that's what they're asking.
[5:50:34] >> there are some -- what I'm looking
[5:50:36] for is smaller firms to teal with the
[5:50:39] specialized things, so instead of
[5:50:41] going to one large firm we caner can
[5:50:43] go to some small firms, we have a
[5:50:46] labor issue, we have a contract issue,
[5:50:49] you know --
[5:50:51] >> okay, just -- we're getting close
[5:50:54] to our time, so I'm going to have us
[5:50:59] consider voting on this but trustee
[5:51:01] chung?
[5:51:02] >> thank you for driving that topic.
[5:51:04] I'm not comfortable voting for this
[5:51:06] contract without an actual number
[5:51:08] attached to it.
[5:51:10] it is just quotes for what each
[5:51:12] service coasters and we have never
[5:51:14] done this -- costs and we have never
[5:51:19] done that for them or any other vendor.
[5:51:21] >> we would not want to do a
[5:51:23] contract with them that said we will
[5:51:28] do it for a million dollars.
[5:51:30] we internally have budgeted what we're
[5:51:31] willing to spend on them but we do not
[5:51:34] want to --
[5:51:35] >> how much are we willing to spend on
[5:51:36] them?
[5:51:37] >> total if you saw on budget, we are
[5:51:38] looking at a million a year, then 750,
[5:51:42] then 650, not just to them but to all
[5:51:44] legal costs.
[5:51:46] >> I guess my point to this is we've
[5:51:48] had this conversation on multiple
[5:51:51] rounds and the solution in order for
[5:51:52] us to keep it on the table and for it
[5:51:56] to come back to us is limiting how
[5:52:02] much we allocate for this -- if we are
[5:52:05] to vote in favor tonight, which we
[5:52:08] can't because -- unless we're willing
[5:52:09] to amend the contract right now is to
[5:52:14] have an amount -- what we've done in
[5:52:16] the past is 300 thousand dollars and
[5:52:18] it would circle back to us to revisit
[5:52:21] and that way then it triggers an
[5:52:23] opportunity for us to have this
[5:52:24] discussion again.
[5:52:28] >> trustee mccarty?
[5:52:29] >> yeah, I was going to say because
[5:52:31] what you were talking about is we
[5:52:33] previously had no to exceed amounts in
[5:52:35] our contracts so that's what's not in
[5:52:37] this contract that you were thinking
[5:52:39] of, it's a not to exceed a amount and
[5:52:43] that trigger it to come back to the
[5:52:45] board, that's what you are not seeing
[5:52:49] here?
[5:52:50] >> it wasn't in last year's aalrr?
[5:52:53] >> it was.
[5:52:54] I don't know if it was in the contract
[5:52:56] but what happened on my very first
[5:53:00] might here on june 26, 2025, the
[5:53:03] board approved the tentative budget
[5:53:05] but did not approve with that contract
[5:53:08] for aalrr and said we would only do
[5:53:10] 300 and come back and then we had to
[5:53:11] come back and for an extension,
[5:53:13] that was the case last year.
[5:53:15] so, if you would like us to come back
[5:53:17] with a not to exceed and we're going
[5:53:22] to be realistic so you're going to
[5:53:24] probably argue with us too but happy
[5:53:25] to do that.
[5:53:26] >> okay, so I think what I'm hearing
[5:53:27] is that we're going to have to item
[5:53:29] come back to the board aiming for the
[5:53:33] regular meeting.
[5:53:37] I will ask for a motion based on this
[5:53:41] discussion and proposing the motion
[5:53:43] for consideration to continue this
[5:53:45] item to the next regularly scheduled
[5:53:48] board meeting with some of the
[5:53:49] feedback we have asked around a cap
[5:53:53] tied to this.
[5:53:54] >> moved.
[5:53:55] >> a motion.
[5:53:56] >> so moved.
[5:53:57] >> moved by trustee chung.
[5:53:58] >> second.
[5:53:59] >> sorry, seconded by v.p. Zamora?
[5:54:08] if there's any other discussion?
[5:54:12] seeing no further discussion, I will
[5:54:15] take this without objection, so this
[5:54:18] item is continued to the next regular
[5:54:22] board meeting with consideration for a
[5:54:24] cap can amount to be included.
[5:54:27] alright.
[5:54:28] the next item is 16a.
[5:54:29] trustee solomon?
[5:54:33] >> thank you, president chisti.
[5:54:37] I did a side by side comparison of the
[5:54:40] contract that we approved on february
[5:54:45] 12 and the amendments to that contract
[5:54:47] so I could see what the current language
[5:54:50] is since we can't see it in the
[5:54:55] amended version.
[5:54:58] the small thing I want but significant
[5:55:01] I think thing that I want to point
[5:55:04] out, I believe on page 1 of the first
[5:55:09] amendment, it sounds weird to say the
[5:55:12] first amendment, in the constitution,
[5:55:17] section c, 2c says termination without
[5:55:19] cause but I think it's supposed to say
[5:55:22] termination with cause because now we
[5:55:23] have two sections that are called
[5:55:26] termination without cause.
[5:55:28] c and d are both called without cause
[5:55:32] but section c in the document posted
[5:55:35] --
[5:55:36] >> it says for cause.
[5:55:38] >> says for cause.
[5:55:39] >> that is a typo, that should be
[5:55:43] termination with cause.
[5:55:44] >> otherwise what I would to say is by
[5:55:47] doing the side by side comparisons, I
[5:55:49] was able to see what has been deleted
[5:55:52] from the february 12 contract and I
[5:55:54] do have concerns about what's been
[5:55:58] deleted.
[5:55:59] one is there was a date certain by
[5:56:02] which time council had to become a
[5:56:06] licensed california attorney, that
[5:56:07] date has been removed in several
[5:56:13] places, and I believe that the -- if
[5:56:15] I'm reading this correctly, the
[5:56:16] requirement to become a licensed
[5:56:19] california attorney has been removed
[5:56:22] and what is left is what was
[5:56:25] originally in there as well which is
[5:56:31] registered in-house counsel, so I
[5:56:32] think what this is saying is current
[5:56:39] counsel will need to be a registered
[5:56:44] in-house counsel but not a licensed
[5:56:46] california attorney and I need
[5:56:49] clarification.
[5:56:50] >> so, and I feel odd talking about
[5:56:52] general counsel sitting right next to
[5:56:55] me, so, amy is in fact legally
[5:56:58] authorized by the california state bar
[5:57:00] to practice law in california, just
[5:57:02] not to litigate because she has not
[5:57:05] passed the bar in california.
[5:57:07] we have a letter from the bar saying
[5:57:09] just that, she is registered with them
[5:57:11] and is legally authorized to practice
[5:57:13] law in california, she just can't
[5:57:15] litigate.
[5:57:16] for our purposes, we would never have
[5:57:18] her litigate case, she does all the
[5:57:21] background work and everything, so we
[5:57:22] amended it to be more accurate and
[5:57:24] also to take away the fact that there
[5:57:26] would be additional compensation tied
[5:57:31] to achieving passing the bar, so it is
[5:57:34] an important distinction.
[5:57:35] we would not want a legal counsel that
[5:57:38] isn't authorized to practice law in
[5:57:40] california but she is and she can talk
[5:57:42] to you about the specifics but there's
[5:57:45] a regular review process by the
[5:57:48] california state bar.
[5:57:49] if at any point in time that changed,
[5:57:52] she would no longer be eligible to be
[5:57:55] general counsel here.
[5:57:58] >> I think there are a few things that
[5:58:00] I just want to make sure you brought
[5:58:04] up, date certain, I think one of the
[5:58:06] things has been addressed around the
[5:58:10] litigation piece and the bar for that,
[5:58:12] and then I think there's a typo, the
[5:58:16] non-substantive edit around 2c should
[5:58:18] be termination with cause.
[5:58:20] >> that's right.
[5:58:21] >> okay.
[5:58:26] >> I'm sorry, but I can't
[5:58:30] see where it says that section 5a
[5:58:36] about getting an increase in salary
[5:58:38] has been deleted.
[5:58:40] >> well, I can look at that, but that
[5:58:44] was tied to -- it specifically said if
[5:58:47] she passed the bar at a certain date,
[5:58:49] she would get another step.
[5:58:50] since that is not happening, that is
[5:58:51] not in the contract.
[5:58:53] >> my problem is -- I'm just going to
[5:58:57] be grumpy and say it, typically in my
[5:59:04] experience when viewing a contract
[5:59:09] with proposed changes, there are
[5:59:11] tracked changes so you can see what's
[5:59:14] new, what's been deleted, and the only
[5:59:16] way to do that with this document on
[5:59:21] the agenda tonight is I had to go and
[5:59:25] find the original proposal -- the
[5:59:27] proposal -- the original signed
[5:59:29] contract and do a side by side
[5:59:32] comparison.
[5:59:33] the fact that this document -- this
[5:59:36] document called first amendment only
[5:59:41] lists the changes.
[5:59:42] if something is going to be deleted,
[5:59:43] it needs to be in there as a deletion
[5:59:46] and it's not in here.
[5:59:49] >> so, we can bring it back at the
[5:59:52] next meeting and we can have hr to
[5:59:59] track changes, but again, the clause
[6:00:00] that we will be deleted if you don't
[6:00:01] see that it has been very specifically
[6:00:05] said what her salary would be and when
[6:00:08] she passed the bar by a certain period
[6:00:11] of time, she would get a step
[6:00:13] increase.
[6:00:14] that will not be triggered unless of
[6:00:16] course she does pass the bar which
[6:00:18] we'd have to renegotiate a that
[6:00:19] because the date would have passed.
[6:00:21] >> so I think I'm hearing -- so
[6:00:24] there's few things that are
[6:00:25] happening, I think this item has some
[6:00:28] discussion, I think there's some
[6:00:30] revisions.
[6:00:31] trustee solomon, would you be able to
[6:00:34] attach or submit your -- I would be
[6:00:37] curious to see what you have.
[6:00:39] I don't know if there's a way --
[6:00:40] >> we can do the original and track
[6:00:45] changes, so we can provide what
[6:00:47] trustee solomon is saying we did not
[6:00:48] do, it's lot easier than
[6:00:49] trying to do what she did and I'm
[6:00:52] sorry we didn't, any time you see
[6:00:54] something like that, if you would have
[6:00:57] reached out, we would have gotten
[6:00:58] that for everyone.
[6:01:01] >> so, I'm sorry, so I think what's
[6:01:05] going to happen is that this is going
[6:01:06] to come back to the board with track
[6:01:12] changes.
[6:01:13] I also would like to understand the
[6:01:14] question around the date certain piece.
[6:01:16] >> the date certain applies if she had
[6:01:20] passed the bar at a specific date, she
[6:01:23] would have received a step increase.
[6:01:25] that will be deleted because she's not
[6:01:27] passing the bar so there is no date
[6:01:32] certain.
[6:01:33] >> okay.
[6:01:34] so, I see you, mr. Shemansky, I got
[6:01:37] you.
[6:01:38] so let's have a motion to continue
[6:01:40] this item to appear at the next
[6:01:46] regularly scheduled board meeting or
[6:01:47] it could also appear on the 10th so a
[6:01:51] later meeting with track changes.
[6:01:53] >> we can bring it to the business
[6:01:55] meeting with the track changes so it
[6:01:58] can be voted upon.
[6:01:59] >> let's take that motion.
[6:02:01] >> so moved.
[6:02:02] >> second.
[6:02:03] >> moved by v.p. Zamora, seconded by
[6:02:06] trustee solomon.
[6:02:07] if there is no -- I'm going to have
[6:02:11] to take that by roll call vote.
[6:02:14] let's do roll call vote since trustee
[6:02:17] martinez is not here.
[6:02:18] >> student trustee wong?
[6:02:19] >> aye.
[6:02:20] >> president chisti?
[6:02:21] >> aye.
[6:02:22] >> trustee chung?
[6:02:23] >> aye.
[6:02:24] >> trustee ferguson?
[6:02:25] >> aye.
[6:02:27] >> trustee martinez stepped out.
[6:02:28] trustee mccarty?
[6:02:31] >> aye.
[6:02:32] >> trustee solomon?
[6:02:33] >> aye.
[6:02:34] >> vice-president zamora?
[6:02:35] >> aye.
[6:02:36] >> motion passes.
[6:02:37] >> thank you so much.
[6:02:38] I know we're at 10:45, what I am
[6:02:42] going to propose and if it's okay, if
[6:02:46] we continue -- I know that I'm looking
[6:02:50] at chair solomon here from the ad hoc
[6:02:53] policy committee, if we could please
[6:02:55] continue that item to the 10th meeting
[6:02:57] just in the interest of time.
[6:02:59] >> yeah, just everybody read it.
[6:03:01] >> yes, that is everybody's homework.
[6:03:04] alright.
[6:03:05] so, I am going to just go ahead and
[6:03:07] power us through, we're going to go
[6:03:09] ahead and just do this.
[6:03:11] alright.
[6:03:12] so, we are done with the consent
[6:03:14] agenda.
[6:03:15] we are moving to the next item which
[6:03:17] are a running list of items and
[6:03:19] board requests, if you have a board
[6:03:21] request, say it now or you can submit
[6:03:24] through other means.
[6:03:25] trustee solomon?
[6:03:26] >> I think this
[6:03:27] would be considered a board request I
[6:03:28] hope.
[6:03:29] I just learned that years ago, there
[6:03:31] were opportunities for students to
[6:03:33] find out how to register to vote and
[6:03:35] even register on campus, having it
[6:03:38] as an informational non-partisan item,
[6:03:41] so, it would be great if we could
[6:03:44] figure something out to do
[6:03:45] soon, our
[6:03:52] ballots here in san francisco will be
[6:03:54] mailed to us by early october and
[6:03:57] maybe we could put information on our
[6:03:59] website, there's a really good
[6:04:02] website, www .vote for 11. Org and I
[6:04:07] can send this information where you
[6:04:09] can just register online but making
[6:04:12] sure that everybody who can vote knows
[6:04:14] how to register to vote.
[6:04:16] >> thank you, and I know I have my
[6:04:19] first meeting with the students
[6:04:21] combining up and typically our
[6:04:23] associate students are the one wos do
[6:04:24] these kinds of workshops so we will
[6:04:26] look at the website.
[6:04:28] they have layover getting the word out
[6:04:29] so I will make sure -- and I'll ask
[6:04:33] student trustee to remind me of that
[6:04:35] topic when we meet, thank you.
[6:04:37] >> alright, thank you so much.
[6:04:39] alright, we are moving right along.
[6:04:42] item 18, the board ad hoc committee
[6:04:45] reports will be appearing at another
[6:04:48] meeting date, maybe the 10th.
[6:04:52] thank you for the flexibility.
[6:04:55] and we are at adjournment.
[6:04:59] before we have a motion the adjourn
[6:05:02] the meeting, I just want to shout-out
[6:05:07] susan, lucas, shawn and mr. Shemansky,
[6:05:09] thank you for helping us have a very
[6:05:13] smooth meeting.
[6:05:14] is there a motion to adjourn the
[6:05:16] meeting?
[6:05:17] >> so moved.
[6:05:19] >> moved by trustee mccarty, seconded
[6:05:23] --
[6:05:24] >> seconded.
[6:05:25] >> seconded by student trustee wong.
[6:05:27] I am seeing no objection.
[6:05:30] we're going to take that by acclimation.
[6:05:33] we're adjourned at 10:49 p.m., thank
[6:05:36] you.
[6:05:37] ( meeting adjourned ).