1 00:00:01,345 --> 00:00:06,145 6 p.m. Commissioner ray here commissioner alexander here 2 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:20,694 commissioner wiseman memorial commissioner gupta here 3 00:00:21,498 --> 00:00:26,298 commissioner fisher here vice president huling here president 4 00:00:29,573 --> 00:00:36,313 kim here as if u.s. Will provide child care excuse me 5 00:00:36,313 --> 00:00:38,649 for regular board meetings and monitoring meetings on the 6 00:00:38,649 --> 00:00:41,585 first floor in the enrollment center at 555 franklin street 7 00:00:41,585 --> 00:00:45,210 from 630 to 9 p.m. Or the close the meeting whichever comes 8 00:00:45,210 --> 00:00:46,560 first. Unfortunately we do not have 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,793 childcare. Do we have childcare today? 10 00:00:48,793 --> 00:00:50,160 unfortunately do not have childcare tonight as a few to 11 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,197 be working with our providers to ensure that childcare is 12 00:00:53,197 --> 00:00:54,732 available in upcoming meetings. Space is limited and will 13 00:00:54,732 --> 00:00:57,467 provide on a first come first serve basis for children ages 4 14 00:00:57,467 --> 00:01:00,403 to 10. For questions please contact 15 00:01:00,403 --> 00:01:05,803 contact the board office at (415) 241-6427 or board office 16 00:01:06,943 --> 00:01:11,810 as if you see the issue at this time before the board goes into 17 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:12,416 closed session I call for any speakers in closed session 18 00:01:12,416 --> 00:01:14,618 items listed in the agenda. There will be a total of five 19 00:01:14,618 --> 00:01:15,953 minutes for speakers. >> are there any speakers for 20 00:01:15,953 --> 00:01:18,756 public comment? There are no speakers for 21 00:01:18,756 --> 00:01:20,257 public comment. >> seeing none I now recess 22 00:01:20,257 --> 00:01:23,257 this meeting at 5:07 p.m. 23 00:02:07,144 --> 00:02:11,344 s.f. Gov tv. San francisco government 24 00:02:12,149 --> 00:02:14,149 television 25 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:39,858 and s.f. Gov tv. >> san francisco government 26 00:19:42,650 --> 00:19:44,650 television system 27 00:35:42,608 --> 00:35:45,110 s.f. Gov tv. >> san francisco government 28 00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:47,110 television 29 00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:41,217 s.f. Gov tv. San francisco government 30 00:52:41,822 --> 00:52:43,822 television 31 00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:06,286 s.f. Gov tv. San francisco government 32 00:59:06,423 --> 00:59:08,423 television 33 01:00:02,847 --> 01:00:07,470 s.f. Gov tv. San francisco government 34 01:00:09,153 --> 01:00:11,153 television 35 01:17:33,338 --> 01:17:38,138 and s.f. Gov tv. San francisco government 36 01:17:38,176 --> 01:17:40,176 television system 37 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,642 s.f. Gov tv. >> san francisco government 38 01:33:42,642 --> 01:33:44,642 television 39 01:35:23,810 --> 01:35:25,110 . >> so please bear with me here. 40 01:35:25,110 --> 01:35:31,150 I don't once didn't add first s.f. Us rd in the matter of or 41 01:35:31,150 --> 01:35:34,286 in the matter of student aid s.f. Us d the board by a vote 42 01:35:34,286 --> 01:35:37,423 of seven eyes approved the settlement agreement between 43 01:35:37,423 --> 01:35:42,620 the parties in the amount of $8,500 in the matter of student 44 01:35:42,620 --> 01:35:45,498 fc per se if you sd the board by a vote of seven ies approved 45 01:35:45,498 --> 01:35:48,835 the settlement agreement between the parties in the 46 01:35:48,835 --> 01:35:55,875 amount of $46,273 in the matter of b k versus sf sd the board 47 01:35:55,875 --> 01:35:59,612 by a vote of seven ies approved the settlement agreement 48 01:35:59,612 --> 01:36:05,612 between the parties in the amount of $42,964 in the matter 49 01:36:06,510 --> 01:36:09,956 of student aa versus if you sd the board by a vote of seven 50 01:36:09,956 --> 01:36:11,390 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 51 01:36:11,390 --> 01:36:16,929 in the amount of $50,000 in the matter of student diaz versus 52 01:36:16,929 --> 01:36:23,336 sfo usd the board by a vote of six eyes one nay fisher 53 01:36:23,336 --> 01:36:27,273 approved the district to initiate proceedings in the 54 01:36:27,273 --> 01:36:31,427 matter of student eh4 se if you sd the board by a vote of seven 55 01:36:31,427 --> 01:36:35,498 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 56 01:36:35,498 --> 01:36:41,498 in the amount of $250,000 in the matter of student g 57 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:52,800 versus sfi usd case number (202) 601-0662 the board by a 58 01:36:55,518 --> 01:36:56,918 vote of seven ies approved the settlement agreement between 59 01:36:56,918 --> 01:37:02,191 the parties in the amount of $34,575 in the matter of 60 01:37:02,191 --> 01:37:08,791 student ocr versus a few sd or h case number (202) 604-0949 61 01:37:10,833 --> 01:37:15,470 the board by a vote of seven ies approved the settlement 62 01:37:15,470 --> 01:37:21,470 agreement between the parties in the amount of $3,000 in the 63 01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:27,950 matter of student d d first se of us d o h case number 64 01:37:27,950 --> 01:37:31,620 (202) 602-0211. The board by a vote of seven 65 01:37:31,620 --> 01:37:36,570 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 66 01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:42,765 in the amount of $31,125 in the matter of student cbm first sfi 67 01:37:42,765 --> 01:37:49,365 usd case number (202) 512-0767 the board by a vote of seven 68 01:37:49,671 --> 01:37:53,976 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 69 01:37:53,976 --> 01:38:00,490 in the amount of $43,500 in the matter of student alp first sfi 70 01:38:00,490 --> 01:38:06,649 usd case number (202) 502-0577 the board by a vote of seven 71 01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:09,558 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 72 01:38:09,558 --> 01:38:16,758 in the amount of $22,306 in the matter of student j k first 73 01:38:18,734 --> 01:38:25,934 s of usd o h case number (202) 604-0942 the board by a 74 01:38:26,876 --> 01:38:28,410 vote of seven ies approved the settlement agreement between 75 01:38:28,410 --> 01:38:34,550 the parties in the amount of $6,460 in the matter of student 76 01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:41,150 cd versus save usd case number (202) 604-1174 the board by a 77 01:38:43,359 --> 01:38:47,195 vote of seven ies approved the settlement agreement between 78 01:38:47,195 --> 01:38:53,680 the parties in the amount of $2,500 in the matter of student 79 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:59,680 al first sfi usd ocr complaint number not 09251021 the board 80 01:38:59,841 --> 01:39:03,178 by a vote of seven ies approved the settlement agreement 81 01:39:03,178 --> 01:39:09,178 between the parties in the amount of 5100 dollars in the 82 01:39:10,786 --> 01:39:16,786 matter of student r.s. Versus the usd case number 83 01:39:17,592 --> 01:39:20,528 (202) 604-0185 the board by a vote of seven eyes approved the 84 01:39:20,528 --> 01:39:22,935 settlement agreement between the parties in the amount of 85 01:39:22,935 --> 01:39:28,935 $29,000 in the matter of student ari first sfi usd case 86 01:39:33,245 --> 01:39:36,548 number (202) 604-0095 the board by a vote of seven ies approved 87 01:39:36,548 --> 01:39:37,784 the settlement agreement between the parties in the 88 01:39:37,784 --> 01:39:46,184 amount of $49,825 in the matter of student s first s of usd o h 89 01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:56,830 case number 20260606 sorry I'm going to repeat that number 90 01:40:04,644 --> 01:40:09,181 (202) 606-0840 the board by a vote of seven ays approve the 91 01:40:09,181 --> 01:40:14,581 settlement agreement between the parties in the amount of 92 01:40:14,686 --> 01:40:18,458 $78,620 in the matter of student h.b. Versus sfi usd oh 93 01:40:18,458 --> 01:40:24,197 h case number (202) 607-0851 the board by a vote of seven 94 01:40:24,197 --> 01:40:27,467 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 95 01:40:27,467 --> 01:40:32,400 in the amount of $64,000 in the matter of student sc versus sfo 96 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:38,604 usd case number (202) 607-1019 the board by a vote of seven 97 01:40:41,347 --> 01:40:44,550 ies approved the settlement agreement between the parties 98 01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:49,350 in the amount of $87,500 in student manner 20262027 gca 99 01:41:02,401 --> 01:41:07,373 won the board by a vote of seven ies denied the grade 100 01:41:07,373 --> 01:41:13,973 challenge in t k student matter number 202620271 the board by a 101 01:41:16,749 --> 01:41:22,749 vote of seven ies approved the kinderrten waiver of an 102 01:41:26,325 --> 01:41:29,925 employee matter. 20262027 number one the board 103 01:41:33,599 --> 01:41:37,770 by a vote of six eyes one nay rae approved the settlement 104 01:41:37,770 --> 01:41:41,207 and release agreement in the amount of approximately three 105 01:41:41,207 --> 01:41:46,607 weeks of pay and employee matter 20262 027 number two the 106 01:41:54,119 --> 01:41:55,654 board by a vote of seven ays approve the settlement 107 01:41:55,654 --> 01:41:58,957 and release agreement in the amount of approximately one 108 01:41:58,957 --> 01:42:04,957 week of pay and employee matter 20262027 number three the board 109 01:42:07,900 --> 01:42:11,503 by a vote of six eyes one nay rae approved the settlement 110 01:42:11,503 --> 01:42:16,303 and release agreement in the amount of approximately $18,000 111 01:42:24,930 --> 01:42:27,930 . Moving on to our matters 112 01:42:29,702 --> 01:42:33,506 in front of us the ease of u.s. Board of education is committed 113 01:42:33,506 --> 01:42:36,442 to effective school board governance that center student 114 01:42:36,442 --> 01:42:40,146 learning and based on community input the board has adopted our 115 01:42:40,146 --> 01:42:43,549 vision values, goals and guardrails in order to 116 01:42:43,549 --> 01:42:44,817 increase the portion of board meeting time we spend on 117 01:42:44,817 --> 01:42:48,488 student outcomes every other regular meeting is a monitoring 118 01:42:48,488 --> 01:42:51,891 workshop like today our approach to governance also 119 01:42:51,891 --> 01:42:55,328 calls on the board to empower the superintendent to take full 120 01:42:55,328 --> 01:42:56,696 ownership of the strategies used to reach those goals 121 01:42:56,696 --> 01:42:58,697 within the guardrail set by the board. 122 01:42:58,697 --> 01:43:02,634 as we implement our governance framework the board will 123 01:43:02,634 --> 01:43:04,690 continue to adopt new systems, routines and policies aimed at 124 01:43:04,690 --> 01:43:07,239 improving student outcomes. We encourage the public to 125 01:43:07,239 --> 01:43:11,176 follow this work on our website at as a few as data edu 126 01:43:11,176 --> 01:43:13,980 governance as we commit to finding new and improved ways 127 01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:17,850 to more meaningfully engage with staff students 128 01:43:17,850 --> 01:43:18,817 and families. Moving to item d. 129 01:43:18,817 --> 01:43:22,188 hello and welcome to members of the public to our regular 130 01:43:22,188 --> 01:43:25,258 meeting of the board of education of san francisco 131 01:43:25,258 --> 01:43:28,728 unified school district. Our public comment period lasts 132 01:43:28,728 --> 01:43:31,531 for one hour today until 7:50 p.m.. 133 01:43:31,531 --> 01:43:35,601 we look forward to hearing from members of the public before we 134 01:43:35,601 --> 01:43:41,601 conduct board business. Our goal is to conduct our work 135 01:43:42,275 --> 01:43:43,642 in an efficient, effective and accessible manner during 136 01:43:43,642 --> 01:43:46,479 reasonable hours. We aim to respect staff, family 137 01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,616 and community time by ensuring moved we move to board business 138 01:43:50,616 --> 01:43:54,620 as soon as possible. Each participant may speak for 139 01:43:54,620 --> 01:43:57,560 up to one minute. Staff will think the 140 01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:58,491 participant at the one minute mark at one minute and five 141 01:43:58,491 --> 01:44:01,226 seconds. I have asked interim clerk 142 01:44:01,226 --> 01:44:02,762 chang to please turn off the mic and transition to the next 143 01:44:02,762 --> 01:44:05,631 speaker. I ask members of the public to 144 01:44:05,631 --> 01:44:08,340 please respect the one minute limit so we can hear from 145 01:44:08,340 --> 01:44:11,103 anybody from as many speakers as possible. 146 01:44:11,103 --> 01:44:12,505 anchorage speakers who are speaking on the same topic to 147 01:44:12,505 --> 01:44:15,741 collaborate and combine their comments so the board can hear 148 01:44:15,741 --> 01:44:18,577 all valuable viewpoints during our limited time. 149 01:44:18,577 --> 01:44:20,246 please also note that the board accepts written public comments 150 01:44:20,246 --> 01:44:25,646 via email to board office at sfo usd edu. 151 01:44:28,154 --> 01:44:29,688 we will hear first from students in person the members 152 01:44:29,688 --> 01:44:33,392 of the general public in person beginning with agenda items 153 01:44:33,392 --> 01:44:36,795 then moving to non agenda items regardless of whether in-person 154 01:44:36,795 --> 01:44:39,931 public comment is complete. We will save 15 minutes for 155 01:44:39,931 --> 01:44:43,668 remote public comment taking commenters in the same order as 156 01:44:43,668 --> 01:44:45,137 in-person to members of the public on your right you'll see 157 01:44:45,137 --> 01:44:48,840 signs that outline expectations for public comment and meeting 158 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,760 conduct. We ask that all members of the 159 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,281 public model the kind of tone, language and behaviors that w 160 01:44:55,281 --> 01:44:56,682 hope to see from our young people respecting different 161 01:44:56,682 --> 01:44:59,485 viewpoints and allowing for all members of the public to 162 01:44:59,485 --> 01:45:02,421 participate. As a reminder, board rules 163 01:45:02,421 --> 01:45:06,293 in california law do not allow us to comment or respond to 164 01:45:06,293 --> 01:45:07,427 comment. Oh, do not allow us to respond 165 01:45:07,427 --> 01:45:10,364 to comments or attempt to answer questions during our 166 01:45:10,364 --> 01:45:13,733 public comment time. If appropriate the 167 01:45:13,733 --> 01:45:15,102 superintendent will ask that staff follow up with speakers 168 01:45:15,102 --> 01:45:21,102 wishing we have two student speakers elliot chaco and james 169 01:45:27,414 --> 01:45:29,414 freeman cross 170 01:46:03,550 --> 01:46:08,350 the working test. >> I do not think everybody 171 01:46:15,950 --> 01:46:16,229 in the district is taking this lead seriously. 172 01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:22,502 we have led in our school and they're pulling it right 173 01:46:22,502 --> 01:46:27,240 when everybody is in school. >> this is not easy for 174 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,510 anybody. Some kids have already tested 175 01:46:30,510 --> 01:46:34,581 positive for lead and I've already had lead exposure. 176 01:46:34,581 --> 01:46:40,587 so as my sister and add I do not want to have a second one. 177 01:46:40,587 --> 01:46:45,259 >> I think we should just move it to the summer and stop the 178 01:46:45,259 --> 01:46:49,950 work right now or move it or move us to a different 179 01:46:49,950 --> 01:46:51,932 location. >> this is not safe. 180 01:46:51,932 --> 01:46:56,470 this is not fun for any of us. Me and my friends have to stay 181 01:46:56,470 --> 01:47:03,210 inside for recess and p and not be able to do fun activities 182 01:47:03,210 --> 01:47:11,100 like soccer or p.e. Like p.e. Events like for instance let's 183 01:47:14,154 --> 01:47:20,154 see like oc for instance like frisbee throw or something. 184 01:47:32,272 --> 01:47:36,743 >> anyhow knock your chair. I'm eight years old and I'm a 185 01:47:36,743 --> 01:47:40,580 third grader at serious. I'm also a brownie and girl 186 01:47:40,580 --> 01:47:43,450 scouts. We learned to take care of our 187 01:47:43,450 --> 01:47:47,587 community and make a place cleaner than we found it. 188 01:47:47,587 --> 01:47:51,224 it is what it is and construction at my school 189 01:47:51,224 --> 01:47:55,128 and I always find new places where kids play. 190 01:47:55,128 --> 01:47:58,743 I think if construction makes a mess the people doing the work 191 01:47:58,743 --> 01:48:02,460 she clean it up really well. My friends and I miss being 192 01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:06,246 able to use all of our playgrounds. 193 01:48:06,818 --> 01:48:08,219 we like doing cartwheels and handstands and playing 194 01:48:08,219 --> 01:48:11,220 together. Please clean our play. 195 01:48:11,220 --> 01:48:14,225 I didn't do like construction in the summer when kids aren't 196 01:48:14,225 --> 01:48:17,495 at school. Thank you for listening to kids 197 01:48:17,495 --> 01:48:21,695 only and helping keep our schools safe. 198 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,375 thank you very much. We have one agenda item. 199 01:48:31,375 --> 01:48:35,575 rudy gonzalez self service. >> good evening commissioners 200 01:48:52,663 --> 01:48:55,599 and superintendent and members of the public. 201 01:48:55,599 --> 01:48:57,135 I'm rudy gonzales and I'm here in my elected capacity with the 202 01:48:57,135 --> 01:49:00,304 san francisco building and construction trades 203 01:49:00,304 --> 01:49:01,439 council. I'm here to register our strong 204 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,675 support for continue ing the project labor agreement covered 205 01:49:04,675 --> 01:49:07,778 by san francisco unified school district's bond program. 206 01:49:07,778 --> 01:49:10,882 this month marks the 20th year that we have been partners 207 01:49:10,882 --> 01:49:14,485 in construction and to our young ones the messages 208 01:49:14,485 --> 01:49:18,355 received and our contractors oh the cleanest work environment 209 01:49:18,355 --> 01:49:22,193 regardless of their affiliation under this play we have clear 210 01:49:22,193 --> 01:49:25,830 rules of the road. >> we have access to a skilled 211 01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:27,165 workforce labor stability and a structure for resolving 212 01:49:27,165 --> 01:49:30,634 problems as they may arise on complex modernization work. 213 01:49:30,634 --> 01:49:33,670 these are important protections for both parties when we're 214 01:49:33,670 --> 01:49:37,508 talking about taxpayer dollars and construction happening in a 215 01:49:37,508 --> 01:49:40,811 school environment. I want to recognize that we 216 01:49:40,811 --> 01:49:44,181 have built into this new agreement together jobs for 217 01:49:44,181 --> 01:49:45,516 today but also for the future focusing on local hire 218 01:49:45,516 --> 01:49:48,987 apprenticeship ship and workforce development that 219 01:49:48,987 --> 01:49:52,956 can be accessible to students at the school district. 220 01:49:52,956 --> 01:49:53,990 this is what public construction should do. 221 01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:57,194 it should invest in our communities. 222 01:49:57,194 --> 01:49:58,596 and I wanted to especially thank your bond program 223 01:49:58,596 --> 01:50:01,198 director, the senior ibarra and your head of operations 224 01:50:01,198 --> 01:50:02,366 katie boyle. Without their hard work 225 01:50:02,366 --> 01:50:05,469 and dedication. Much of what we see in the 226 01:50:05,469 --> 01:50:06,604 built environment would not be possible. 227 01:50:06,604 --> 01:50:09,473 so a special thanks to them on your team. 228 01:50:09,473 --> 01:50:11,873 >> appreciate it. Thank you. 229 01:50:12,209 --> 01:50:15,809 president kim. That concludes the agenda 230 01:50:16,246 --> 01:50:19,617 items. Move on to non agenda items. 231 01:50:19,617 --> 01:50:20,884 okay. The first group for non agenda 232 01:50:20,884 --> 01:50:26,884 items nancy chang thomas sanjay ranjeet choco nick laurie sorry 233 01:50:33,864 --> 01:50:39,136 laurie I can't pronounce your last name right rene. 234 01:50:39,136 --> 01:50:43,936 okay can you please turn on your mic? 235 01:50:48,379 --> 01:50:49,113 >> thank you. Okay great. 236 01:50:49,113 --> 01:50:52,113 much better. Hi, good evening. 237 01:50:52,369 --> 01:50:56,600 I'm nancy chang and I'm the parent of a first grader at 238 01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,900 chinese immersion school. >> over the last two months 239 01:50:59,900 --> 01:51:02,579 parents have been troubled by some gaps in how led disturbing 240 01:51:02,579 --> 01:51:06,417 work is being managed. Gaps between prioritizing 241 01:51:06,417 --> 01:51:10,221 safety versus liability gaps between promised transparency 242 01:51:10,221 --> 01:51:14,240 versus withheld delayed downplayed test results, even 243 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:15,250 gaps in the protective sheeting. 244 01:51:15,250 --> 01:51:18,162 because after all, kids are crazy. 245 01:51:18,162 --> 01:51:21,980 >> workers make mistakes and high winds have torn gaping 246 01:51:21,980 --> 01:51:22,990 holes. So we've seen progress for sure 247 01:51:22,990 --> 01:51:25,569 but we are deeply concerned because the highest risk 248 01:51:25,569 --> 01:51:29,239 activity window replacement will begin october ninth and we 249 01:51:29,239 --> 01:51:32,610 simply cannot afford any more gaps. 250 01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:36,313 we therefore stand united tonight in asking for two 251 01:51:36,313 --> 01:51:37,314 commonsense safety precautions. One. 252 01:51:37,314 --> 01:51:40,951 reschedule invasive window replacement work till the 253 01:51:40,951 --> 01:51:45,522 summer to clean the play yard where elevated led levels have 254 01:51:45,522 --> 01:51:48,392 already been found. >> please help us close these 255 01:51:48,392 --> 01:51:49,727 gaps and protect our children's health and safety. 256 01:51:49,727 --> 01:51:53,327 thank you so much. >> hi there. 257 01:51:58,736 --> 01:52:02,340 I'm thomas sager. I'm a father of a third grader 258 01:52:02,340 --> 01:52:06,410 at cs. I'm also a chemical engineer, a 259 01:52:06,410 --> 01:52:07,878 biomedical engineer and I have experience in industrial safety 260 01:52:07,878 --> 01:52:10,680 from the last 1520 years of work. 261 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:14,351 >> I'm here today because I'm still concerned about the lead 262 01:52:14,351 --> 01:52:17,621 and the safety of the students and staff at this. 263 01:52:17,621 --> 01:52:21,625 we now have data that shows the elevated lead levels in the 264 01:52:21,625 --> 01:52:25,262 boys and girls bathroom above the regulatory threshold. 265 01:52:25,262 --> 01:52:29,400 based on this it's reasonable to assume that other areas 266 01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:33,204 inside the school may have also been contaminated. 267 01:52:33,204 --> 01:52:34,638 so I have three common sense requests. 268 01:52:34,638 --> 01:52:40,577 >> one let's do more testing inside like in the hallways 269 01:52:40,577 --> 01:52:44,415 in and around the cafeteria and the two classrooms. 270 01:52:44,415 --> 01:52:46,717 we shouldn't be afraid of testing or the results. 271 01:52:46,717 --> 01:52:48,318 two let's do what cleaning a.k.a. Mopping inside 272 01:52:48,318 --> 01:52:50,318 and outside? >> yes. 273 01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:52,123 I'm here today asking for mopping. 274 01:52:52,123 --> 01:52:57,523 this is quick cheap insurance against permanent lead damage 275 01:52:57,595 --> 01:53:01,765 for 400 students and it's the contractors responsibility. 276 01:53:01,765 --> 01:53:02,867 three delay the lead windows replacement. 277 01:53:02,867 --> 01:53:06,203 the contractors already did sloppy job. 278 01:53:06,203 --> 01:53:07,438 there's lead contamination in the yards. 279 01:53:07,438 --> 01:53:10,740 we can't let them again and again during the school 280 01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:13,740 year and disrupt the classrooms . 281 01:53:13,344 --> 01:53:14,545 >> thank you. Thank you for all your previous 282 01:53:14,545 --> 01:53:22,345 work to hi I'm ranjith choco alia's dad and I'm here to ask 283 01:53:24,622 --> 01:53:28,158 the district to move the planned window removal to the 284 01:53:28,158 --> 01:53:31,610 summer break when children are not in the building. 285 01:53:31,610 --> 01:53:32,530 the district originally told families that all windows would 286 01:53:32,530 --> 01:53:36,300 come out over the summer when kids aren't around because of 287 01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:39,370 the risks associated with dust. But now it plans to remove them 288 01:53:39,370 --> 01:53:41,806 during the school year despite those risks. 289 01:53:41,806 --> 01:53:43,315 in addition to the known risks of lead dust, removing the 290 01:53:43,315 --> 01:53:46,385 windows can potentially expose new hazards like asbestos a 291 01:53:46,385 --> 01:53:49,754 long weekend or a one week break leaves little time to 292 01:53:49,754 --> 01:53:52,124 remediate and clean up before children return. 293 01:53:52,124 --> 01:53:53,725 even if the team executed perfectly removing the windows 294 01:53:53,725 --> 01:53:57,195 during the school year is a risky move. 295 01:53:57,195 --> 01:54:00,465 but what we've seen so far is a team whose execution is far 296 01:54:00,465 --> 01:54:01,733 from perfect for the exterior work done so far the 297 01:54:01,733 --> 01:54:04,736 containment has been improved through a trial and error 298 01:54:04,736 --> 01:54:07,638 process with parents identifying obvious flaws. 299 01:54:07,638 --> 01:54:11,610 and as thomas was mentioning when they did lead levels were 300 01:54:11,610 --> 01:54:14,946 detected in the bathrooms. The district did not notify 301 01:54:14,946 --> 01:54:16,347 families immediately. I could go on but clearly given 302 01:54:16,347 --> 01:54:19,284 the track record and the inherent risks in this work, 303 01:54:19,284 --> 01:54:23,288 the only prudent course of action is to move the winter 304 01:54:23,288 --> 01:54:26,888 removal to the summer. Thank you. 305 01:54:29,828 --> 01:54:34,833 >> good evening. >> my name is nick and I'm a 306 01:54:34,833 --> 01:54:38,350 parent at yes. The district has repeatedly 307 01:54:38,350 --> 01:54:41,506 reassured families by claiming led test results are well below 308 01:54:41,506 --> 01:54:44,506 regulations. But that judgment relies 309 01:54:44,710 --> 01:54:46,440 entirely on an obsolete 400 micrograms per square foot 310 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:51,444 standard created 25 years ago for dirty and accessible window 311 01:54:51,917 --> 01:54:55,554 troughs not school playgrounds. Ucsf experts agree that 400 is 312 01:54:55,554 --> 01:54:59,524 not a health protective level. The cdc and american academy of 313 01:54:59,524 --> 01:55:00,925 pediatrics confirmed that no safe lead level exists for 314 01:55:00,925 --> 01:55:03,925 children. The current epa health 315 01:55:03,928 --> 01:55:07,131 clearance standard for indoor floors is only five micrograms 316 01:55:07,131 --> 01:55:10,802 per square foot 80 times smaller than the level of 400 317 01:55:10,802 --> 01:55:14,206 using a window trough standard to declare a kindergarten yard 318 01:55:14,206 --> 01:55:15,273 safe without washing it makes no sense. 319 01:55:15,273 --> 01:55:18,677 we urge you to practice primary prevention. 320 01:55:18,677 --> 01:55:22,277 reschedule classroom window removal to summer 2027 321 01:55:22,814 --> 01:55:23,848 and thoroughly clean the play yards. 322 01:55:23,848 --> 01:55:26,248 >> thank you. Good evening. 323 01:55:33,491 --> 01:55:37,228 I'm laurie, a parent at chinese immersion school at diablo. 324 01:55:37,228 --> 01:55:41,499 even though our pta is holding a meeting right now tonight we 325 01:55:41,499 --> 01:55:47,171 came here to formally submit a petition signed by over 100 326 01:55:47,171 --> 01:55:48,573 members of our six community within just the past couple of 327 01:55:48,573 --> 01:55:53,373 days along with a packet of supporting materials. 328 01:55:54,345 --> 01:55:59,184 >> since parents support campus repairs but we refuse avoidable 329 01:55:59,184 --> 01:56:03,121 lead exposure scheduling hazardous window removal or 330 01:56:03,121 --> 01:56:06,657 short holiday breaks leaves zero margin for error within 331 01:56:06,657 --> 01:56:10,595 our children's classrooms. Tonight we urge superintendent 332 01:56:10,595 --> 01:56:17,795 sue and the board of the board to direct staff to implement 333 01:56:17,935 --> 01:56:20,935 our community's two straightforward request. 334 01:56:21,740 --> 01:56:25,676 first and foremost reschedule classroom window demolition to 335 01:56:25,676 --> 01:56:28,646 summer 2027. And second professionally wet 336 01:56:28,646 --> 01:56:32,550 clean our play arts. >> please protect our kids 337 01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:35,550 before october 9th. Thank you. 338 01:56:38,206 --> 01:56:43,600 >> thank you very much, reverend amos brown, robert 339 01:56:45,581 --> 01:56:49,181 schneider, ashley ahearn, kirsten sarah phillipe, 340 01:57:00,328 --> 01:57:03,328 marshawn. >> good evening, mr. Chairman. 341 01:57:29,658 --> 01:57:34,458 madam superintendent, members of our board of education. 342 01:57:40,235 --> 01:57:45,635 I'm very troubled tonight. I'm right, lee and righteously 343 01:57:54,116 --> 01:57:58,316 disturbed. On the 4th of september there 344 01:58:01,990 --> 01:58:08,590 was an incident at lincoln high school an incident that should 345 01:58:11,734 --> 01:58:17,134 shake all of you. Why we have a problem. 346 01:58:22,745 --> 01:58:28,745 there's a mirror again and again of this incident of 347 01:58:30,286 --> 01:58:35,860 black students being victims of racialized bigoted language 348 01:58:48,103 --> 01:58:54,103 which have incited unfortunate reactions on the part of black 349 01:58:54,910 --> 01:58:59,110 students. >> let me make it as richard 350 01:58:59,648 --> 01:59:04,453 milhous nixon used to say yester years and we're looking 351 01:59:04,453 --> 01:59:09,253 here. I do not as a representative of 352 01:59:12,327 --> 01:59:18,327 the black faith tradition are as president emeritus of the 353 01:59:19,735 --> 01:59:24,106 national association for the advancement of colored people. 354 01:59:24,106 --> 01:59:28,906 >> condone support racialized language coming from any mouth 355 01:59:37,558 --> 01:59:41,158 . However I can share with you 356 01:59:41,229 --> 01:59:48,169 that I'm sad to say in the 49 years that I've been in this 357 01:59:48,169 --> 01:59:52,774 city of saint francis there have been far too many 358 01:59:52,774 --> 01:59:58,174 instances in which there was expressed a double standard 359 01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:05,800 when it came to processing, disciplining and bringing to 360 02:00:07,722 --> 02:00:11,926 restorative justice persons who had been found guilty of being 361 02:00:11,926 --> 02:00:18,526 engaged in such activities as there were over at lincoln high 362 02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:21,400 school. Support point. 363 02:00:24,872 --> 02:00:31,472 >> brother brown I will just suggest that the board has the 364 02:00:32,213 --> 02:00:36,830 moral ethical obligation. >> thank you mr. Brown. 365 02:00:36,830 --> 02:00:40,870 >> of supporting the superintendent and calling for 366 02:00:40,870 --> 02:00:43,870 mr. Out through public pronouncements. 367 02:00:47,261 --> 02:00:48,229 thank you aaron brown if you can. 368 02:00:48,229 --> 02:00:51,990 I finish. This is serious. 369 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:57,699 calling out the fact that on our television station that was 370 02:00:58,639 --> 02:01:04,639 broadcasted a parent who call black children animals and that 371 02:01:10,183 --> 02:01:14,721 has taken on a life of his own. >> thank you, aaron brown. 372 02:01:14,721 --> 02:01:20,694 and it is not fair. It is not just for in 1869. 373 02:01:20,694 --> 02:01:26,940 >> frederick douglass stood up and spoke up against the 374 02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:33,468 chinese exclusion act though he had been a slave. 375 02:01:34,741 --> 02:01:41,341 I feel that all serious honors just asian leaders from the 376 02:01:46,987 --> 02:01:51,358 chinese community should stand up and speak out against the 377 02:01:51,358 --> 02:01:55,496 incidents in which black children are victimized. 378 02:01:55,496 --> 02:01:59,199 reverend brown, I'm going to my evil language. 379 02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:02,370 wrap up your comments please. And bad activities. 380 02:02:02,370 --> 02:02:03,504 >> thank you. Thank you for having me. 381 02:02:03,504 --> 02:02:06,600 thank you. But I want you to get behind 382 02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:10,378 the superintendent and speak up yourself as a member of this 383 02:02:10,378 --> 02:02:13,978 board. But you would not your 384 02:02:13,980 --> 02:02:15,316 children, your grandchildren, your nieces, nephews to be 385 02:02:15,316 --> 02:02:20,716 victims of the kind of vulgarity that I have. 386 02:02:21,870 --> 02:02:26,141 facts of and not hearsay. Thank you for the time given. 387 02:02:26,141 --> 02:02:30,145 but it is time for us to act. For this problem is like dishes 388 02:02:30,145 --> 02:02:32,981 in the sink. The more you need those dishes 389 02:02:32,981 --> 02:02:37,485 there and don't wash them they will attract and collect pest. 390 02:02:37,485 --> 02:02:43,485 and in this district bigotry and racism against anyone is 391 02:02:45,227 --> 02:02:51,827 like those on wash dishes. >> so let's get the washing go 392 02:03:03,712 --> 02:03:04,412 . >> good evening. 393 02:03:04,412 --> 02:03:07,349 we are tech in tech. We're back. 394 02:03:07,349 --> 02:03:10,949 >> we are san francisco families, educators 395 02:03:10,952 --> 02:03:14,552 and community members advocating for intentional 396 02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:18,761 technology and age appropriate parameters in san francisco 397 02:03:18,761 --> 02:03:21,761 schools. >> today we have around 275 398 02:03:22,864 --> 02:03:27,664 members around san francisco. We're in 56 public schools 399 02:03:30,672 --> 02:03:34,543 and we have a petition with well over a thousand signatures 400 02:03:34,543 --> 02:03:38,280 and you'll each receive your own copy very soon. 401 02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:41,316 >> some of what our petition supports. 402 02:03:41,316 --> 02:03:46,622 one a moratorium on student generative aiu two grade level 403 02:03:46,622 --> 02:03:52,622 limits on 1 to 1 devices and no recreational screen exposure at 404 02:03:52,661 --> 02:03:53,762 school. >> three social media free 405 02:03:53,762 --> 02:03:59,762 schools please find our petition at tiny you elle.com 406 02:04:00,169 --> 02:04:04,440 backslash t I c petition. >> we look forward to 407 02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:06,440 partnering. Thank you. 408 02:04:10,712 --> 02:04:16,518 hi I'm a parent and educator and it's time to stop 409 02:04:16,518 --> 02:04:20,255 committing to ed tech and the false narrative that ai 410 02:04:20,255 --> 02:04:23,992 and screen based learning is inevitable and the same as 411 02:04:23,992 --> 02:04:26,392 introducing calculators into school. 412 02:04:26,928 --> 02:04:29,698 we need to ask the following questions. 413 02:04:29,698 --> 02:04:31,667 what is the science that shows screen based learning improves 414 02:04:31,667 --> 02:04:35,170 educational outcomes? >> how are edtech products 415 02:04:35,170 --> 02:04:38,874 evaluated vetted and tested independent of corporate 416 02:04:38,874 --> 02:04:42,811 interests before students have access to them? 417 02:04:42,811 --> 02:04:45,947 what do tech companies do with our children sensitive data 418 02:04:45,947 --> 02:04:50,185 including their voice recordings and why is there no 419 02:04:50,185 --> 02:04:51,286 parental consent to this data collection? 420 02:04:51,286 --> 02:04:57,626 why are organizations like you nasco and the aclu warning that 421 02:04:57,626 --> 02:05:01,830 edtech is increasing the equity gap and what will be done to 422 02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:03,298 accommodate families who aren't comfortable with their children 423 02:05:03,298 --> 02:05:06,602 using these apps? >> why are we letting our 424 02:05:06,602 --> 02:05:10,506 students shortcut their understanding and learning at 425 02:05:10,506 --> 02:05:11,642 the expense of billionaire tech interests? 426 02:05:11,642 --> 02:05:15,460 I ask you to please pass a tech resolution as soon as possible. 427 02:05:15,460 --> 02:05:17,460 >> thank you. Blue. 428 02:05:22,820 --> 02:05:26,560 good evening. My name is robert schneider 429 02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:29,861 and this is not the first time that I've spoken to the board. 430 02:05:29,861 --> 02:05:31,529 I'm a physical education teacher in the district and I'm 431 02:05:31,529 --> 02:05:34,665 growing increasingly concerned about my students ability to 432 02:05:34,665 --> 02:05:37,650 engage academically and creatively. 433 02:05:38,737 --> 02:05:42,607 previously I've spoken to the board about the need for 434 02:05:42,607 --> 02:05:46,478 technology to not replace the experiences that students have 435 02:05:46,478 --> 02:05:49,478 especially that of elementary school. 436 02:05:52,249 --> 02:05:57,555 I would push it further tonight and I would say that we need to 437 02:05:57,555 --> 02:06:01,192 create a protected space a guard rail space in elementary 438 02:06:01,192 --> 02:06:05,496 school because to me there's actually no reason that we 439 02:06:05,496 --> 02:06:08,566 should have kids in elementary school on devices. 440 02:06:08,566 --> 02:06:11,569 certainly not the amount that we have them on. 441 02:06:11,569 --> 02:06:18,769 they need to have opportunities to write by hand to grow, to 442 02:06:19,410 --> 02:06:23,714 learn together, to think creatively, to really explore 443 02:06:23,714 --> 02:06:26,918 more and just be a kid. >> thank you, lupe. 444 02:06:26,918 --> 02:06:29,318 thank you. >> I'm felipe. 445 02:06:34,392 --> 02:06:38,996 actually, I did. I was interested in to the 446 02:06:38,996 --> 02:06:42,733 superintendents parallel with calculators because I remember 447 02:06:42,733 --> 02:06:47,238 how they were actually quite regulated and educated when I 448 02:06:47,238 --> 02:06:54,378 was in school and my 83 was nothing near as good as a 449 02:06:54,378 --> 02:06:57,748 distraction and cheating device as what kids have access to 450 02:06:57,748 --> 02:06:58,782 now. But I want to say something 451 02:06:58,782 --> 02:07:04,182 about a mirror and stop. I've seen communications with 452 02:07:05,656 --> 02:07:08,692 parents saying that it outperforms on its own 453 02:07:08,692 --> 02:07:09,494 tutoring. This is not true. 454 02:07:09,494 --> 02:07:14,331 don't copy the manufacturer as claims like read the studies 455 02:07:14,331 --> 02:07:17,435 the studies don't substantially got past particular claim. 456 02:07:17,435 --> 02:07:18,770 they don't show anything as good as a mirror says their 457 02:07:18,770 --> 02:07:21,972 product does. And it undermines informed 458 02:07:21,972 --> 02:07:25,242 consent. It also undermines your own 459 02:07:25,242 --> 02:07:29,460 partners or providing actual idols as tutoring accommodation 460 02:07:29,460 --> 02:07:33,918 with usage and performance can just mean that the students are 461 02:07:33,918 --> 02:07:35,420 doing well, can do more practice with a mirror or with 462 02:07:35,420 --> 02:07:39,620 any other tool. >> hi, my name's ashley. 463 02:07:44,610 --> 02:07:46,664 I'm a parent of my first grade assistant back there. 464 02:07:46,664 --> 02:07:50,467 my predecessor felipe spoke eloquently about some of the 465 02:07:50,467 --> 02:07:54,471 concerns related to a mirror so I won't belabor the points 466 02:07:54,471 --> 02:07:58,676 around privacy and student voice is being recorded 467 02:07:58,676 --> 02:08:02,120 and students form forming parasocial relationships with 468 02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,294 the chat bot but I just want to say that for me the most 469 02:08:05,294 --> 02:08:06,696 distressing aspect about a mirror has been the lack of 470 02:08:06,696 --> 02:08:10,700 transparency around it and around its introduction 471 02:08:10,700 --> 02:08:13,803 and presence in the classroom of our youngest learners. 472 02:08:13,803 --> 02:08:17,774 I have lost track of how many parents I've talked to who have 473 02:08:17,774 --> 02:08:21,544 told me I didn't know anything about this and my kid was using 474 02:08:21,544 --> 02:08:23,113 it you know, all last year and I found out about it at the 475 02:08:23,113 --> 02:08:26,783 end of the year when they asked me where their voice was going 476 02:08:26,783 --> 02:08:30,153 and I know that this board and this district has some 477 02:08:30,153 --> 02:08:33,657 really big decisions to make around how tech is going to 478 02:08:33,657 --> 02:08:34,958 show up in our classrooms. And I just ask that you keep 479 02:08:34,958 --> 02:08:37,894 communication with parents and transparency as a central 480 02:08:37,894 --> 02:08:41,798 aspect of whatever policy you land on because parents deserve 481 02:08:41,798 --> 02:08:45,601 to know what technology their kids are using and we deserve 482 02:08:45,601 --> 02:08:48,271 to opt out. >> thank you. 483 02:08:48,271 --> 02:08:51,871 thank you. >> thank you very much. 484 02:08:52,676 --> 02:08:55,760 virginia marshall. Alex lugosi. 485 02:08:56,746 --> 02:09:00,346 lawrence lee. >> good evening president kim 486 02:09:04,588 --> 02:09:06,988 board commissioners superintendent sue. 487 02:09:08,358 --> 02:09:11,761 student delegates ladies mandelman I join president 488 02:09:11,761 --> 02:09:15,898 mary's reverend dr. Amos brown and urging you to keep all 489 02:09:15,898 --> 02:09:19,770 students safe. >> we want them to have a 490 02:09:19,770 --> 02:09:23,774 strong academic education. We want them to have an 491 02:09:23,774 --> 02:09:27,577 excellent academic education. But we also want to keep our 492 02:09:27,577 --> 02:09:31,470 students safe. It seems of the last couple of 493 02:09:31,470 --> 02:09:34,718 weeks it looks to us and the naacp that the district needs 494 02:09:34,718 --> 02:09:39,189 to do more parent involvement, more parent workshops because 495 02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:40,790 whether it's a kindergarten child or 12 break child in the 496 02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:43,727 home, whatever he or she here is at home, they are going to 497 02:09:43,727 --> 02:09:46,796 bring it to school and some time it's very, very negative. 498 02:09:46,796 --> 02:09:50,867 all of our students need to have a safe environment free of 499 02:09:50,867 --> 02:09:54,671 racism, free of academic harm and some of our students have 500 02:09:54,671 --> 02:09:58,341 been harmed in the past couple of weeks, particularly 501 02:09:58,341 --> 02:10:03,741 african-americans students. So we urge you we encourage you 502 02:10:05,150 --> 02:10:09,919 to find a way to keep all students safe away from racial 503 02:10:09,919 --> 02:10:12,919 harm. >> thank you so much. 504 02:10:16,893 --> 02:10:20,493 hello. Uh, my name is alex. 505 02:10:21,364 --> 02:10:23,566 I'm a grade school parent in district three. 506 02:10:23,566 --> 02:10:26,636 >> last year the new school which is a charter school 507 02:10:26,636 --> 02:10:30,440 in district three enrolled two kindergartners mid-year. 508 02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:31,908 but because the kindle programs at new school were full, the 509 02:10:31,908 --> 02:10:35,311 new school chose instead to matriculate these students into 510 02:10:35,311 --> 02:10:40,711 their first grade classrooms. Neither child met the september 511 02:10:41,150 --> 02:10:43,419 1st cutoff date set forth by the state of california for 512 02:10:43,419 --> 02:10:47,624 first grade enrollment and this amounts to defrauding the state 513 02:10:47,624 --> 02:10:50,494 and the city taxpayers who fund this school. 514 02:10:50,494 --> 02:10:52,329 and I would like to know how the board is coordinating with 515 02:10:52,329 --> 02:10:55,165 the city and the state department education to ensure 516 02:10:55,165 --> 02:10:56,366 that charter schools are following the law. 517 02:10:56,366 --> 02:10:59,803 they are not abusing their charrs and asked that the 518 02:10:59,803 --> 02:11:02,272 board investigate this as a matter of accountability around 519 02:11:02,272 --> 02:11:04,672 public funding. >> thank you. 520 02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:14,510 good evening. I'm lawrence lee. 521 02:11:14,510 --> 02:11:17,554 I'm a licensed general contractor and a cyborg 522 02:11:17,554 --> 02:11:21,910 citizen's bond oversight committee vice chair speaking 523 02:11:21,910 --> 02:11:24,928 for myself tonight. >> on october 10th three 524 02:11:24,928 --> 02:11:28,565 members of the sybok will have their terms ending and then we 525 02:11:28,565 --> 02:11:32,636 will be outside of state law. We need seven members by then. 526 02:11:32,636 --> 02:11:36,573 the next meeting will be in november. 527 02:11:36,573 --> 02:11:40,110 our volunteers have spent years reviewing audits, visiting 528 02:11:40,110 --> 02:11:43,110 schools and following construction spending. 529 02:11:43,913 --> 02:11:45,249 last week at our bond at our bond oversight meeting I 530 02:11:45,249 --> 02:11:50,649 flagged a $7.8 million item which was a duplicate entry. 531 02:11:51,855 --> 02:11:55,455 staff acknowledged it and responded constructively. 532 02:11:55,793 --> 02:11:59,663 that's useful oversight. Tonight's labor agreement item 533 02:11:59,663 --> 02:12:04,201 g1 and the building automation work in the consent items show 534 02:12:04,201 --> 02:12:08,400 how much lies ahead as well as these other comments from other 535 02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:09,205 people tonight. These decisions affect our 536 02:12:09,205 --> 02:12:12,476 schools for decades. >> please act before these 537 02:12:12,476 --> 02:12:16,760 terms expire. This is about $1.5 billion $1.5 538 02:12:18,682 --> 02:12:19,682 billion of construction spending. 539 02:12:19,682 --> 02:12:22,820 >> thank you. >> thank you. 540 02:12:26,355 --> 02:12:29,125 members of the public. President kim that concludes 541 02:12:29,125 --> 02:12:32,125 our in-person public comment period. 542 02:12:32,162 --> 02:12:37,367 may I move to virtual? >> we will begin our virtual 543 02:12:37,367 --> 02:12:40,367 public comments. >> students go first. 544 02:12:40,636 --> 02:12:44,441 raise your hands if you're a student. 545 02:12:44,441 --> 02:12:45,442 if you're not a student, please wait. 546 02:12:45,442 --> 02:12:48,446 we will move on after the students to agenda items 547 02:12:48,446 --> 02:12:52,460 and the non agenda items. Okay. 548 02:12:58,321 --> 02:13:03,721 we will begin with adam. Hi, this is amberly. 549 02:13:10,867 --> 02:13:11,401 hi. Hi. 550 02:13:11,401 --> 02:13:14,437 I'm really I'm really getting. >> hi. 551 02:13:14,437 --> 02:13:19,276 my name is amber garibay and I'm a sixth grader at james 552 02:13:19,276 --> 02:13:21,944 link middle school. I just wanted to give a shout 553 02:13:21,944 --> 02:13:23,480 out to my school and all of those awesome teachers. 554 02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:27,150 I was definitely nervous about starting middle school because 555 02:13:27,150 --> 02:13:28,151 it felt like a really big change. 556 02:13:28,151 --> 02:13:30,954 but honestly it has been so much better than I expecd. 557 02:13:30,954 --> 02:13:35,425 my teachers have made me feel really welcome and supported 558 02:13:35,425 --> 02:13:38,270 and I know that they really care about all of us. 559 02:13:38,270 --> 02:13:39,296 I've made new friends. I like switching classes 560 02:13:39,296 --> 02:13:42,233 and learning different things throughout the day. 561 02:13:42,233 --> 02:13:45,234 I'm also really happy to get to keep learning spanish and I 562 02:13:45,234 --> 02:13:46,770 imagine I'm really grateful to get to go to james like I'm 563 02:13:46,770 --> 02:13:50,483 excited for the rest of it's. >> thank you so much. 564 02:13:50,483 --> 02:13:54,683 thank you. I'm really kristen coleman hi 565 02:14:02,996 --> 02:14:06,232 my name is cody and I'm a third grader at lafayette elementary 566 02:14:06,232 --> 02:14:11,320 school. I am here to talk about how 567 02:14:12,806 --> 02:14:18,144 last year my teacher always did a bunch of the like reading a 568 02:14:18,144 --> 02:14:24,744 mirror program that I just really didn't like and it was 569 02:14:24,851 --> 02:14:28,688 kind of annoying because when she doesn't hear us we have to 570 02:14:28,688 --> 02:14:32,359 just say it so many times and that is just not very fun. 571 02:14:32,359 --> 02:14:38,959 so I would just really rather learn it through a teacher 572 02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:44,237 because I would rather not be just always looking at our 573 02:14:44,237 --> 02:14:48,708 screens for reading when we could do the actual book. 574 02:14:48,708 --> 02:14:52,178 and my sister also wanted to say something about this. 575 02:14:52,178 --> 02:15:00,578 >> I hannah and I'm six years old and I got a love for it 576 02:15:02,822 --> 02:15:07,593 and um and last year we had to do this thing called a mirror 577 02:15:07,593 --> 02:15:11,630 and we have to like read books on it but it like couldn't hear 578 02:15:11,630 --> 02:15:17,604 me so I had to sit in the closet the whole time like 579 02:15:17,604 --> 02:15:21,808 in my classroom just like like yelling at it because it was 580 02:15:21,808 --> 02:15:24,611 too loud in the classroom. It was almost like it needed 581 02:15:24,611 --> 02:15:26,611 hearing. Thank you. 582 02:15:28,781 --> 02:15:30,781 thank you. Thanks. 583 02:15:32,352 --> 02:15:35,352 thank you. Chloe and hannah. 584 02:15:35,822 --> 02:15:40,622 thanks. Okay, we can move on to agenda 585 02:15:43,763 --> 02:15:46,966 items. >> you may raise your hand if 586 02:15:46,966 --> 02:15:50,470 you want to speak on an agenda . 587 02:15:50,470 --> 02:15:54,700 agenda item elliot kent, your item. 588 02:16:05,318 --> 02:16:06,720 >> good evening, commissioners. My name is elliot and I'm 589 02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:09,656 speaking on behalf of s.f. Parent coalition. 590 02:16:09,656 --> 02:16:13,326 we appreciate that. As opposed has adopted a new k 591 02:16:13,326 --> 02:16:17,163 through eight math curriculum and is encouraging to see some 592 02:16:17,163 --> 02:16:19,933 improvement in math outcomes including an increase in eighth 593 02:16:19,933 --> 02:16:23,669 grade proficiency. At the same time the district 594 02:16:23,669 --> 02:16:27,607 remains off track on its math goal and the persistently low 595 02:16:27,607 --> 02:16:29,750 outcomes for african-american students require particular 596 02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:32,144 attention and a clear plan for improvement. 597 02:16:32,144 --> 02:16:36,349 we also continue to have a major information gap around 598 02:16:36,349 --> 02:16:39,371 elementary math. The district rolled out a new 599 02:16:39,371 --> 02:16:40,706 curriculum across k through five last year but families 600 02:16:40,706 --> 02:16:44,476 still do not have a clear picture of how that 601 02:16:44,476 --> 02:16:47,312 implementation went. As we move into year two 602 02:16:47,312 --> 02:16:48,780 families need to know what work, what's in it and what 603 02:16:48,780 --> 02:16:52,317 s.f. City is changing result. We urge the board to keep 604 02:16:52,317 --> 02:16:55,387 pressing for that transparent city and accountability. 605 02:16:55,387 --> 02:16:58,987 >> thank you. Thank you tina produces. 606 02:17:15,274 --> 02:17:15,874 hi. Good evening. 607 02:17:15,874 --> 02:17:20,445 my name is tina pretty sus and I am the current membership 608 02:17:20,445 --> 02:17:23,748 chair of the community advisory committee on special education. 609 02:17:23,748 --> 02:17:27,452 it is my pleasure and privilege to officially welcome 610 02:17:27,452 --> 02:17:31,222 and congratulate our newest member lisa borchers, whose 611 02:17:31,222 --> 02:17:35,560 appointment is expected to be formally approved by the board 612 02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:39,365 tonight. I have already learned so much 613 02:17:39,365 --> 02:17:43,101 from lisa and she has made many contributions to our community. 614 02:17:43,101 --> 02:17:47,305 in fact she will be presenting at the cac general meeting this 615 02:17:47,305 --> 02:17:50,809 thursday evening from 6 to 8 p.m. On the topic of 616 02:17:50,809 --> 02:17:54,120 restorative justice. Please join us then and get to 617 02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:57,315 know lisa a bit more. >> thank you. 618 02:17:57,315 --> 02:18:00,315 thank you. Laura kennedy I. 619 02:18:08,460 --> 02:18:11,896 >> okay now I can well remember further. 620 02:18:11,896 --> 02:18:12,664 >> hi. Can you hear me? 621 02:18:12,664 --> 02:18:16,134 yes, we can hear you. Great. 622 02:18:16,134 --> 02:18:17,135 hi. My name is laura kennedy. 623 02:18:17,135 --> 02:18:19,438 I'm a parent to a student at jacquot alternative elementary 624 02:18:19,438 --> 02:18:23,942 where I also serve on the school site council. 625 02:18:23,942 --> 02:18:25,143 as a member of the school site council. 626 02:18:25,143 --> 02:18:28,746 we like all of you look at test data while I'm encouraged to 627 02:18:28,746 --> 02:18:32,884 see the improvements in our new roll out of the math curriculum 628 02:18:32,884 --> 02:18:36,210 and am grateful for the new math curriculum. 629 02:18:36,210 --> 02:18:37,422 one thing I would love to introduce and suggest is to be 630 02:18:37,422 --> 02:18:42,527 able to look at cohorts of students over time because what 631 02:18:42,527 --> 02:18:46,640 we see is a bunch of eighth graders that have moved forward 632 02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:47,699 and I think it would be really insightful for us to understand 633 02:18:47,699 --> 02:18:51,303 what is happening beyond eighth grade through their high school 634 02:18:51,303 --> 02:18:53,905 years, what is happening with third grade literacy beyond 635 02:18:53,905 --> 02:18:57,442 that for each cohort of students so that we can connect 636 02:18:57,442 --> 02:19:00,947 the dots across three academic goals for the district. 637 02:19:00,947 --> 02:19:04,547 >> thank you so much. Thank you. 638 02:19:08,453 --> 02:19:10,453 kristen coleman. >> hi. 639 02:19:19,664 --> 02:19:22,664 sorry about that. Thank you. 640 02:19:24,690 --> 02:19:27,338 so I'm with the group tech in check and I have the third 641 02:19:27,338 --> 02:19:28,306 and first grader who spoke earlier. 642 02:19:28,306 --> 02:19:32,184 I'm also an educator with over 20 years of teaching experience 643 02:19:32,184 --> 02:19:34,954 and I'm currently teaching at sfd school which is an 644 02:19:34,954 --> 02:19:39,125 independent k-8 school. And I've always been incredibly 645 02:19:39,125 --> 02:19:42,361 proud of the public school education my children have been 646 02:19:42,361 --> 02:19:43,662 getting but I'm increasingly concerned about how much of 647 02:19:43,662 --> 02:19:47,499 their school day is moving on to screens in early elementary 648 02:19:47,499 --> 02:19:50,169 and this is beyond just a mirror. 649 02:19:50,169 --> 02:19:54,106 this is just for instruction and gamified educational apps 650 02:19:54,106 --> 02:19:57,943 and brain breaks and classroom rewards and starting in fourth 651 02:19:57,943 --> 02:20:00,980 grade the students get to take home chromebooks for homework 652 02:20:00,980 --> 02:20:02,681 and when I pick my own kids up at school I see a group of 653 02:20:02,681 --> 02:20:05,818 younger students crowding around one of the older ones 654 02:20:05,818 --> 02:20:09,121 watching them play video games on their school devices 655 02:20:09,121 --> 02:20:10,555 and where I work students don't get individual take home 656 02:20:10,555 --> 02:20:15,955 devices until seventh grade as both parents and educators 657 02:20:17,960 --> 02:20:20,733 clearly see the negative impacts the devices have on the 658 02:20:20,733 --> 02:20:25,400 student's attention span and on critical thinking and just when 659 02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:28,474 I'm at my own kid's school and I feel like classroom 660 02:20:28,474 --> 02:20:31,910 should be full of interaction and I'm seeing oh my time. 661 02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:32,911 okay. Thank you for listening. 662 02:20:32,911 --> 02:20:35,311 thank you. Vanessa marrero. 663 02:20:43,289 --> 02:20:48,293 >> good evening everybody. My name is dr. Vanessa maurer. 664 02:20:48,293 --> 02:20:50,829 I'm the president of parents public schools of san 665 02:20:50,829 --> 02:20:51,864 francisco. We've been a public school 666 02:20:51,864 --> 02:20:56,350 champion for the last 30 years with launch here in san 667 02:20:56,350 --> 02:20:59,905 francisco for 20 years. >> there's two things that I 668 02:20:59,905 --> 02:21:02,808 want to talk about. One is an agenda item. 669 02:21:02,808 --> 02:21:07,450 it is a focus on the monitoring question. 670 02:21:07,450 --> 02:21:10,645 >> we went ahead and evaluated it. 671 02:21:10,916 --> 02:21:14,860 the board monitoring questions on august 25th. 672 02:21:14,860 --> 02:21:18,570 and we found that there was some improvements that were 673 02:21:18,570 --> 02:21:19,910 needed. We sent the board our full 674 02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:22,928 evaluation and the public can see that on our website. 675 02:21:22,928 --> 02:21:26,598 one thing I'd like the board to consider today as it goes 676 02:21:26,598 --> 02:21:30,736 through its work is how do we make this purposeful for the 677 02:21:30,736 --> 02:21:34,336 community? Because what I'm hearing from 678 02:21:34,740 --> 02:21:38,110 parents is that this is really not that purposeful. 679 02:21:38,110 --> 02:21:41,446 and we know that that is not the case. 680 02:21:41,446 --> 02:21:45,384 so one way you guys can do that is to make sure you are 681 02:21:45,384 --> 02:21:48,954 following your own rubric and that you are assessing 682 02:21:48,954 --> 02:21:51,757 yourselves and self assessing. Thank you for your time. 683 02:21:51,757 --> 02:21:54,157 thank you. Mr. Lu. 684 02:22:06,505 --> 02:22:07,406 there we go. Can you hear me? 685 02:22:07,406 --> 02:22:10,509 yes, we can hear you. Thank you. 686 02:22:10,509 --> 02:22:11,811 >> I'm a 27 year veteran in s.f. Usd. 687 02:22:11,811 --> 02:22:14,646 I do not want a I screening my students for reading. 688 02:22:14,646 --> 02:22:18,651 that's my job that I am trained in. 689 02:22:18,651 --> 02:22:21,653 amirah has been particularly perplexing as it was first 690 02:22:21,653 --> 02:22:22,988 introduced as an intervention for our lowest performing 691 02:22:22,988 --> 02:22:26,675 students who at the time are aapi and african-american 692 02:22:26,675 --> 02:22:29,577 students. And then suddenly that fell 693 02:22:29,577 --> 02:22:33,514 away and the district became it became a tutor, a reading 694 02:22:33,514 --> 02:22:37,352 screener and now they called her a she during my training 695 02:22:37,352 --> 02:22:41,155 which was really insulting. I'm teaching ak1 split because 696 02:22:41,155 --> 02:22:44,692 of poorly managed enrollment practices district wide and pre 697 02:22:44,692 --> 02:22:49,640 k is under enrolled district wide 13 students total at my 698 02:22:49,640 --> 02:22:52,901 site yet it is fully staffed with two teachers and two 699 02:22:52,901 --> 02:22:53,935 aides. I'm really concerned about 700 02:22:53,935 --> 02:22:57,172 fiscal irresponsibility only six months after we went on 701 02:22:57,172 --> 02:23:00,775 strike when we were told we did not have enough money to pay 702 02:23:00,775 --> 02:23:03,845 our workers. I'm hearing massive amounts of 703 02:23:03,845 --> 02:23:07,249 misspending that went out tonight for settling for 704 02:23:07,249 --> 02:23:08,250 settlements. I'm concerned that you're 705 02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:12,187 laying off real workers and replacing them with 706 02:23:12,187 --> 02:23:16,191 computers and that you're not fully staffing schools with 707 02:23:16,191 --> 02:23:19,593 students and you're just not using your money appropriately 708 02:23:19,593 --> 02:23:22,593 and that really impacts everybody. 709 02:23:22,897 --> 02:23:26,334 so I really encourage you guys to look at what's needed where 710 02:23:26,334 --> 02:23:27,135 . And that's usually humans 711 02:23:27,135 --> 02:23:30,204 teaching children and books in their hands. 712 02:23:30,204 --> 02:23:32,604 >> thank you. >> thank you. 713 02:23:34,375 --> 02:23:40,975 gretchen talan I gretchen talan we can come back to you. 714 02:23:58,330 --> 02:24:01,569 oh no I can. There you are. 715 02:24:01,569 --> 02:24:02,236 there you go. Hello. 716 02:24:02,236 --> 02:24:03,171 sorry. Thank you so much. 717 02:24:03,171 --> 02:24:05,774 hi. >> I'm a parent of a third 718 02:24:05,774 --> 02:24:09,377 grader at francis scott key and I urge also a member of the 719 02:24:09,377 --> 02:24:12,446 tech in check. >> I urge san francisco unified 720 02:24:12,446 --> 02:24:13,748 school district to put our students first and actually 721 02:24:13,748 --> 02:24:17,518 listen to them as you heard them speak tonight. 722 02:24:17,518 --> 02:24:20,788 >> science shows definitively 1 to 1 tech harms learning 723 02:24:20,788 --> 02:24:24,692 and brain development. >> let's join seattle public 724 02:24:24,692 --> 02:24:28,162 schools as well as a number of other public schools throughout 725 02:24:28,162 --> 02:24:32,500 the country rather than using our children to be beta testers 726 02:24:32,500 --> 02:24:35,803 for a.I.. Let's put the students first 727 02:24:35,803 --> 02:24:39,673 not the companies. Follow the science, not the 728 02:24:39,673 --> 02:24:42,844 marketing campaigns. Adopt age appropriate tech 729 02:24:42,844 --> 02:24:47,148 in san francisco unified. >> thank you so much. 730 02:24:47,148 --> 02:24:51,152 thank you. As a reminder let's we're 731 02:24:51,152 --> 02:24:55,523 talking on agenda items and then raise your hands for 732 02:24:55,523 --> 02:24:58,960 the non agenda items when that section is called. 733 02:24:58,960 --> 02:25:02,364 so agenda items please. >> thank you. 734 02:25:02,364 --> 02:25:03,970 yeah. Thank you. 735 02:25:03,970 --> 02:25:07,297 branding markman. >> hi my name is brandi 736 02:25:18,984 --> 02:25:20,118 markman. I am a parent of a high 737 02:25:20,118 --> 02:25:23,355 schooler. I am one of the problems with a 738 02:25:23,355 --> 02:25:26,910 hyper focus on eighth grade math scores is that a lot of 739 02:25:26,910 --> 02:25:32,910 things do not get discussed. Those are our faulty payroll 740 02:25:33,331 --> 02:25:36,331 system. It is absolutely inexcusable 741 02:25:36,836 --> 02:25:38,170 that our school district for over four years has a payroll 742 02:25:38,170 --> 02:25:41,240 system that isn't working. Other things don't get heard 743 02:25:41,240 --> 02:25:45,770 when there's a hyper focus on math scores for one grade that 744 02:25:45,770 --> 02:25:49,277 is the overuse of tech to teach. 745 02:25:50,916 --> 02:25:55,554 it is absolutely embarrassing that other schools like l.a., 746 02:25:55,554 --> 02:25:59,425 new york, seattle, portland, the list goes on and on are far 747 02:25:59,425 --> 02:26:03,896 ahead of us with usd in getting in lowering the amount of 748 02:26:03,896 --> 02:26:07,767 minutes students spend on devices when we're not even 749 02:26:07,767 --> 02:26:11,103 scheduling a meeting about tech until march. 750 02:26:11,103 --> 02:26:15,607 >> this is the problem with the student outcomes focus 751 02:26:15,607 --> 02:26:18,944 governance it got rid of monthly programing curriculum 752 02:26:18,944 --> 02:26:22,447 meetings that were in place before this government 753 02:26:22,447 --> 02:26:25,951 governance was program was instituted four years ago. 754 02:26:25,951 --> 02:26:29,655 please bring back the monthly programing curriculum meetings. 755 02:26:29,655 --> 02:26:33,559 parents should not thank you waiting until march to get 756 02:26:33,559 --> 02:26:34,626 their concerns heard. >> thank you. 757 02:26:34,626 --> 02:26:39,426 thank you. >> okay moving on to non agenda 758 02:26:39,865 --> 02:26:42,865 items carly danielson. >> hi there. 759 02:26:54,947 --> 02:26:59,151 my name is carly. I'm the parent of a first 760 02:26:59,151 --> 02:27:00,285 and third grader at clarendon elementary. 761 02:27:00,285 --> 02:27:03,389 we are new to san francisco unified school district. 762 02:27:03,389 --> 02:27:06,558 the second week of school my third grader was sent home with 763 02:27:06,558 --> 02:27:09,161 the first contract she's ever been asked to sign. 764 02:27:09,161 --> 02:27:12,898 it was a very cute chromebook contract if an eight year old 765 02:27:12,898 --> 02:27:16,350 is expected to sign a contract to participate in her own 766 02:27:16,350 --> 02:27:17,436 education, it seems obvious and necessary that the district 767 02:27:17,436 --> 02:27:20,305 should have an intentional, highly transparent policy a 768 02:27:20,305 --> 02:27:26,305 contract if you will, outlining at a minimum what specific 769 02:27:27,312 --> 02:27:28,680 proven benefits has a given technology intervention in a 770 02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:32,418 classroom shown and let these be studies not funded by the 771 02:27:32,418 --> 02:27:35,720 company whose product they are evaluating as is the case with 772 02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:38,858 the independent study and mirror provided 773 02:27:38,858 --> 02:27:40,192 in louisiana too. >> how are the children being 774 02:27:40,192 --> 02:27:43,896 protected from what these devices give them access to? 775 02:27:43,896 --> 02:27:47,333 and three what is the district requiring of tech vendors to 776 02:27:47,333 --> 02:27:50,936 protect students data, data and privacy technology 777 02:27:50,936 --> 02:27:54,407 distracts teachers, presents equity issues in the classroom 778 02:27:54,407 --> 02:27:58,543 and it limits much needed human to human student teacher 779 02:27:58,543 --> 02:27:59,744 interaction. >> I am requesting that the 780 02:27:59,744 --> 02:28:02,615 district establish clear policy that restricts screen time 781 02:28:02,615 --> 02:28:06,485 and the use of ai tools disabling all generative a.I. 782 02:28:06,485 --> 02:28:10,436 tools, chat bots and search engines on all student devices. 783 02:28:10,436 --> 02:28:13,436 >> thank you. Thank you carly. 784 02:28:21,470 --> 02:28:24,470 I'm. That concludes our virtual 785 02:28:28,254 --> 02:28:32,792 thank you very much. I appreciate the members of the 786 02:28:32,792 --> 02:28:35,928 public especially our students who joined us tonight to share 787 02:28:35,928 --> 02:28:39,865 your experience and perspectives as a reminder 788 02:28:39,865 --> 02:28:41,433 ,board rules in california law do not allow us to respond to 789 02:28:41,433 --> 02:28:44,537 comments or enter or answer questions during public comment 790 02:28:44,537 --> 02:28:45,472 time. But we appreciate you being 791 02:28:45,472 --> 02:28:50,776 here tonight to share with us in person and virtually I'll 792 02:28:50,776 --> 02:28:54,376 move to item e consent calendar . 793 02:29:12,498 --> 02:29:17,103 the next item on the agenda is the consent calendar. 794 02:29:17,103 --> 02:29:18,437 president kim has a standing recusal from the consent 795 02:29:18,437 --> 02:29:22,740 calendar due to his employment with the city and county of san 796 02:29:22,740 --> 02:29:25,778 francisco which is a frequent contractor with s.f. Usd to 797 02:29:25,778 --> 02:29:29,315 avoid any appearance of impropriety to any board 798 02:29:29,315 --> 02:29:33,252 members have a personal professional or business 799 02:29:33,252 --> 02:29:36,722 relationship with any individual who is the subject 800 02:29:36,722 --> 02:29:40,459 of or has an ownership interest or financial interest in the 801 02:29:40,459 --> 02:29:44,463 subject of any consent items where as a result of that 802 02:29:44,463 --> 02:29:45,865 relationship the ability of the board member to act for the 803 02:29:45,865 --> 02:29:49,535 benefit of the public could reasonably be questioned 804 02:29:49,535 --> 02:29:51,337 and thus the relationship should be disclosed in the 805 02:29:51,337 --> 02:29:53,337 minutes. See none. 806 02:29:55,474 --> 02:29:59,278 superintendent sue do you have any changes to the consent 807 02:29:59,278 --> 02:30:00,346 calendar? There are no changes to the 808 02:30:00,346 --> 02:30:02,746 consent calendar. Thank you. 809 02:30:02,815 --> 02:30:09,415 is there a motion to approve the consent calendar so moved 810 02:30:09,555 --> 02:30:12,925 and the second thank you. >> it's been properly moved 811 02:30:12,925 --> 02:30:16,461 and seconded that the board approve the consent calendar 812 02:30:16,461 --> 02:30:23,661 items e one through e 45. Can I have a roll call vote 813 02:30:25,170 --> 02:30:28,170 please? Student delegate miss nellie 814 02:30:29,875 --> 02:30:31,875 foxman yes. Apologies. 815 02:30:32,778 --> 02:30:38,778 correction items e one through 46 sorry I didn't mean to 816 02:30:39,452 --> 02:30:43,122 interrupt you didn't delegate student delegate nellie foxman 817 02:30:43,122 --> 02:30:46,722 yes. Student delegate and en nguyen 818 02:30:49,862 --> 02:30:52,262 yes. Commissioner ray yes. 819 02:30:53,999 --> 02:30:58,103 mr. Alexander yes. Commissioner wiseman ward yes. 820 02:30:58,103 --> 02:31:01,703 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fisher yes. 821 02:31:02,642 --> 02:31:07,442 vice president huling yes. Written consent agenda passes 822 02:31:13,154 --> 02:31:17,354 and we can retrieve president kim okay. 823 02:31:33,390 --> 02:31:39,639 >> so we have several items on the agenda that do require 824 02:31:40,881 --> 02:31:42,349 direct action from the board, standalone action from the 825 02:31:42,349 --> 02:31:45,920 board to commissioners. You'll see three items on here. 826 02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:49,590 I'm going to request that we move if no objection item three 827 02:31:49,590 --> 02:31:52,192 up before the progress monitoring meeting so we can 828 02:31:52,192 --> 02:31:56,730 just take all our actions at once for the public hearing. 829 02:31:56,730 --> 02:32:00,330 yeah. So we'll go from item uh public 830 02:32:00,330 --> 02:32:05,606 hearing and adoption to action item one three and then two. 831 02:32:05,606 --> 02:32:09,206 okay gg13 and then two. >> yeah. 832 02:32:12,213 --> 02:32:15,813 okay. We'll start with the public 833 02:32:15,882 --> 02:32:19,487 hearg and adoption. I now call item f one public 834 02:32:19,487 --> 02:32:23,900 hearing and approval of resolution regarding the 835 02:32:23,900 --> 02:32:24,425 sufficiency of textbooks and instructional materials as 836 02:32:24,425 --> 02:32:29,825 required by education code section 60119 calling dr. Su to 837 02:32:30,430 --> 02:32:34,101 read this uh to read the resolution. 838 02:32:34,101 --> 02:32:35,635 thank you, president kim I'm going to have this over to our 839 02:32:35,635 --> 02:32:38,305 assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction 840 02:32:38,305 --> 02:32:40,705 devin cooper. Good evening. 841 02:32:41,608 --> 02:32:42,976 we are bringing forth this resolution in compliance with 842 02:32:42,976 --> 02:32:46,313 williams to ensure the sufficiency of textbooks 843 02:32:46,313 --> 02:32:49,783 and instructional materials in alignment with california ed 844 02:32:49,783 --> 02:32:55,183 code section 60119 within the resolution you can see the 845 02:32:56,590 --> 02:33:01,990 areas of insufficiency of materials that have been cited 846 02:33:03,164 --> 02:33:04,665 by survey completion across elementary, middle and high 847 02:33:04,665 --> 02:33:08,680 schools. All of those requests have been 848 02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:11,272 met with the ordering and delivery or pending 849 02:33:11,272 --> 02:33:14,872 delivery of additional instructional materials to 850 02:33:15,976 --> 02:33:18,376 ensure sufficiency. Thank you. 851 02:33:18,845 --> 02:33:23,283 I will now open the public hearing at 7:39 p.m.. 852 02:33:23,283 --> 02:33:26,487 we will take public comment on this item as a reminder 853 02:33:26,487 --> 02:33:27,554 speakers have one minute to speak. 854 02:33:27,554 --> 02:33:32,459 ms. Chang are there any speakers for this item? 855 02:33:32,459 --> 02:33:36,163 there are no speakers on this item. 856 02:33:36,163 --> 02:33:39,367 thank you at this time commissioners any questions or 857 02:33:39,367 --> 02:33:45,367 staff for any comment? >> seeing none I will not close 858 02:33:46,506 --> 02:33:51,945 this public hearing at 7:39 p.m. Camera motion and a second 859 02:33:51,945 --> 02:33:56,327 so moved second it's been properly moved and seconded to 860 02:33:56,327 --> 02:33:59,864 the board to approve item 269-2 to esp one public hearing on 861 02:33:59,864 --> 02:34:02,933 resolution regarding the sufficiency of textbooks 862 02:34:02,933 --> 02:34:04,402 and instruction with president kim I just want to clarify were 863 02:34:04,402 --> 02:34:07,538 you asking for a motion to close the hearing or were you 864 02:34:07,538 --> 02:34:11,760 asking for the motion so that we can vote on the motion to 865 02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:14,979 close the public hearing at 7:39 p.m. So the motion was to 866 02:34:14,979 --> 02:34:19,779 vote. >> the motion was on to 69-2 to 867 02:34:20,418 --> 02:34:24,688 sb one just for clarification for the records that's correct. 868 02:34:24,688 --> 02:34:28,426 yeah it has been probably moved and seconded. 869 02:34:28,426 --> 02:34:31,829 >> the board approved this item roll call vote please. 870 02:34:31,829 --> 02:34:34,829 student delegate nellie foxman yes. 871 02:34:35,366 --> 02:34:38,503 student and delegate anna nguyen yes. 872 02:34:38,503 --> 02:34:42,103 commissioner ray yes. >> commissioner alexander yes. 873 02:34:46,443 --> 02:34:50,643 commissioner wiseman ward yes. Commissioner gupta yes. 874 02:34:50,782 --> 02:34:54,786 commissioner fisher yes. Vice president healing yes. 875 02:34:54,786 --> 02:34:58,856 president kim yes. >> it is so moved. 876 02:34:58,856 --> 02:35:03,861 moving to item g one the first action item is 269 dash of 877 02:35:03,861 --> 02:35:07,765 thank you staff sorry I know it's a lot so much appreciation 878 02:35:07,765 --> 02:35:11,935 the first action is item 269-2 to speak to approval of the 879 02:35:11,935 --> 02:35:16,107 same school unified school district 2026 project labor 880 02:35:16,107 --> 02:35:19,544 agreement for essex city bond funded projects can I have a 881 02:35:19,544 --> 02:35:23,514 motion and a second? >> I move item 269-2 to esp two 882 02:35:23,514 --> 02:35:27,180 second spent properly moved and seconded that the board 883 02:35:27,180 --> 02:35:31,489 approve this item I ask dr. Sue to bring on board and I'm going 884 02:35:31,489 --> 02:35:35,192 to hand it over to the very capable hands of the senior 885 02:35:35,192 --> 02:35:37,592 advisory. >> thank you superintendent. 886 02:35:38,896 --> 02:35:42,700 good evening commissioners as a few as some of you may know, we 887 02:35:42,700 --> 02:35:43,968 have a longstanding partnership with the san francisco building 888 02:35:43,968 --> 02:35:46,170 and construction trades council. 889 02:35:46,170 --> 02:35:49,173 our project labor agreement is an important tool for 890 02:35:49,173 --> 02:35:50,641 delivering high quality school facilities through the bond 891 02:35:50,641 --> 02:35:53,710 program with the skilled local workforce. 892 02:35:53,710 --> 02:35:58,182 thank you to rudy gonzalez, secretary and treasurer of the 893 02:35:58,182 --> 02:35:59,650 san francisco building trades council for his public comment 894 02:35:59,650 --> 02:36:05,956 earlier in support of the item. We have been working together 895 02:36:05,956 --> 02:36:10,610 for several months negotiating collaboratively towards this 896 02:36:10,610 --> 02:36:13,898 2026 play. The purpose of it is to ensure 897 02:36:13,898 --> 02:36:15,199 efficient project delivery, to expand apprenticeship 898 02:36:15,199 --> 02:36:18,602 and workforce development opportunities and to strengthen 899 02:36:18,602 --> 02:36:21,873 labor stability through the bond program which of course is 900 02:36:21,873 --> 02:36:25,676 a voter approved measure together with the new student 901 02:36:25,676 --> 02:36:29,280 career pathways and workforce development policy that you've 902 02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:32,549 just approved on the consent calendar of this play I'm 903 02:36:32,549 --> 02:36:36,553 really allows us to leverage voter dollars our bond 904 02:36:36,553 --> 02:36:40,910 investments to improve school facilities while creating 905 02:36:40,910 --> 02:36:41,292 meaningful career opportunities for our students. 906 02:36:41,292 --> 02:36:45,282 for san francisco residents and for our other partners 907 02:36:45,282 --> 02:36:46,584 in the building trades. So we're pleased to present 908 02:36:46,584 --> 02:36:51,555 this tonight and if you have questions I'm available any 909 02:36:51,555 --> 02:36:52,590 comments or questions from the board? 910 02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:56,940 mr. Director thank you miss a very and I appreciate your 911 02:36:56,940 --> 02:36:59,531 answers in the q&a document for those who haven't seen, I'd 912 02:36:59,531 --> 02:37:02,834 certainly recommend one of the answers you provided was the 913 02:37:02,834 --> 02:37:06,137 2013 policy was written in such a way to make tracking 914 02:37:06,137 --> 02:37:09,207 and accountability difficult. It was not aligned with current 915 02:37:09,207 --> 02:37:10,408 ccar college and career readiness offerings. 916 02:37:10,408 --> 02:37:13,745 this is one of the many reasons we amended the language. 917 02:37:13,745 --> 02:37:17,348 I appreciate I appreciated that answer to question that one of 918 02:37:17,348 --> 02:37:20,284 my colleagues may have asked. I'm curious if you have 919 02:37:20,284 --> 02:37:23,884 something just following up on that. 920 02:37:23,921 --> 02:37:28,560 how does the amended language now evaluate effectiveness of 921 02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:29,894 the existing policy in providing our students 922 02:37:29,894 --> 02:37:33,498 workforce experience or meeting or college and career readiness 923 02:37:33,498 --> 02:37:35,498 goals? >> sure. 924 02:37:36,167 --> 02:37:39,404 yeah and I think that really is reflected in the workforce 925 02:37:39,404 --> 02:37:40,972 policy that is on the consent item less so in the play 926 02:37:40,972 --> 02:37:44,642 although the play is enacting agreement with the building 927 02:37:44,642 --> 02:37:47,779 trades that in support of that but the language that was 928 02:37:47,779 --> 02:37:52,500 in the prior local hire policy as it was called really 929 02:37:52,500 --> 02:37:55,453 referred to the college and career readiness department 930 02:37:55,453 --> 02:37:58,790 from before and didn't have the language of the current 931 02:37:58,790 --> 02:38:02,426 pathways that we have or the opportunities that the college 932 02:38:02,426 --> 02:38:05,797 and career readiness division is able to offer to students 933 02:38:05,797 --> 02:38:09,801 through the city programs. And so really in trying to 934 02:38:09,801 --> 02:38:11,135 implement that in partnership with our bond contractors or 935 02:38:11,135 --> 02:38:17,809 you know, other people who fell under the the purview of the 936 02:38:17,809 --> 02:38:19,210 local hire policy, it was really sort of like square peg 937 02:38:19,210 --> 02:38:22,480 round hole situation where ccar was just feeling like, you 938 02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:25,884 know, we're getting this sort of infusion of investment but 939 02:38:25,884 --> 02:38:29,487 like but we can't really use it in this way. 940 02:38:29,487 --> 02:38:33,240 so that's in part because it was written in 2013 and here we 941 02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:37,562 are in 2026 and so just it was kind of a modernization of the 942 02:38:37,562 --> 02:38:40,564 policy to make it match so that our contractors have a clear 943 02:38:40,564 --> 02:38:42,467 pathway to participating in our student development through 944 02:38:42,467 --> 02:38:44,467 ccar. >> thank you. 945 02:38:50,708 --> 02:38:53,845 no questions and I don't want to take a lot of time just to 946 02:38:53,845 --> 02:38:57,649 say thanks and I think this is really important coming from a 947 02:38:57,649 --> 02:38:58,717 labor family and labor household. 948 02:38:58,717 --> 02:39:02,253 I think the fact that we can be so committed to working with 949 02:39:02,253 --> 02:39:06,391 labor locally is key not just for the district but for the 950 02:39:06,391 --> 02:39:09,326 community and we know they're intertwined. 951 02:39:09,326 --> 02:39:13,526 so I really appreciate this. >> all right. 952 02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:21,380 seeing no other comments from the board. 953 02:39:21,380 --> 02:39:24,208 thank you to staff for your presentation today. 954 02:39:24,208 --> 02:39:27,211 it is now closed on the motion to approve item 269-2 to speak 955 02:39:27,211 --> 02:39:31,820 to approval of the same to school unified school district 956 02:39:31,820 --> 02:39:32,316 2026 project labor agreement for sfe usd bond funded 957 02:39:32,316 --> 02:39:36,287 projects roll call vote please. >> student delegate nellie 958 02:39:36,287 --> 02:39:39,887 foxman yes. >> student delegate miss ana 959 02:39:42,668 --> 02:39:44,668 nguyen yes. Commissioner. 960 02:39:46,706 --> 02:39:49,106 yes. Commissioner alexander yes. 961 02:39:50,309 --> 02:39:52,709 commissioner weissman ward yes . 962 02:39:54,246 --> 02:39:57,650 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fisher yes. 963 02:39:57,650 --> 02:40:01,850 vice president huling yes. President kim yes. 964 02:40:02,187 --> 02:40:05,187 so moved. Thank you commissioners. 965 02:40:05,824 --> 02:40:09,662 thank you very much. Staff and thank you very much 966 02:40:09,662 --> 02:40:14,462 labor partners for all your work in partnership. 967 02:40:15,701 --> 02:40:20,500 >> as I mentioned before, I'm going to move to item three to 968 02:40:20,500 --> 02:40:21,340 vote on some expulsion matters just so we can get all our 969 02:40:21,340 --> 02:40:24,577 actions out of the way and then we'll spend the rest of our 970 02:40:24,577 --> 02:40:27,747 time in discussion. So I'll move to item three 971 02:40:27,747 --> 02:40:30,983 student expulsion matters I move for the approval of 972 02:40:30,983 --> 02:40:34,583 stipulated expulsion agreement for student matter 20262027 973 02:40:36,455 --> 02:40:39,291 number three for the remainder of the spring 2026 semester 974 02:40:39,291 --> 02:40:42,561 and the fall 2026 semester during the suspended expulsion 975 02:40:42,561 --> 02:40:46,650 period this student will attend a comprehensive high school. 976 02:40:46,650 --> 02:40:52,665 >> can I have a second second go copies commissioner ray yes 977 02:40:56,410 --> 02:40:56,975 . Commissioner alexander yes. 978 02:40:56,975 --> 02:41:01,175 commissioner wiseman ward yes. Commissioner gupta yes. 979 02:41:04,216 --> 02:41:08,416 commissioner fisher yes. Vice president huling yes. 980 02:41:11,123 --> 02:41:15,260 >> president kim yes. So moved I move approval for 981 02:41:15,260 --> 02:41:18,163 the stipulated expulsion agreement for student matter 982 02:41:18,163 --> 02:41:22,963 20262027 number four for the spring 2026 semester in fall 983 02:41:23,669 --> 02:41:27,172 2026 expulsion period during the suspended expulsion period 984 02:41:27,172 --> 02:41:30,509 the student will attend civic centers secondary can I have a 985 02:41:30,509 --> 02:41:34,709 second second real copies commissioner ray yes. 986 02:41:37,490 --> 02:41:41,249 commissioner alexander yes. Commissioner wiseman ward yes. 987 02:41:41,620 --> 02:41:45,220 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fisher yes. 988 02:41:45,691 --> 02:41:49,294 vice president huling yes. >> president kim yes. 989 02:41:49,294 --> 02:41:53,565 so moved I move approval of the stipulated expulsion agreement 990 02:41:53,565 --> 02:41:58,365 for student matters 20262027 number five the remainder of 991 02:41:58,404 --> 02:42:02,107 the spring 2026 semester in the fall 2026 semester during the 992 02:42:02,107 --> 02:42:05,430 suspended expulsion period the student will attend a 993 02:42:05,430 --> 02:42:07,713 comprehensive high school and have a second second roll 994 02:42:07,713 --> 02:42:10,713 call. >> police commissioner ray yes. 995 02:42:11,683 --> 02:42:15,855 commissioner alexander yes. Commissioner wiseman ward yes. 996 02:42:15,855 --> 02:42:19,455 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fisher yes. 997 02:42:19,892 --> 02:42:24,920 vice president huling yes. President kim yes. 998 02:42:26,980 --> 02:42:30,554 >> so moved I move to item four approval of the stipulated 999 02:42:30,554 --> 02:42:34,154 sponsored expulsion agreement for student matter 20262027 1000 02:42:36,760 --> 02:42:40,290 number six for the remainder of the spring 2020 sixth semester 1001 02:42:40,290 --> 02:42:43,500 and the fall 2026 semester during the suspended expulsion 1002 02:42:43,500 --> 02:42:46,170 period the student will attend civic center high school can 1003 02:42:46,170 --> 02:42:49,206 have a second second row copies. 1004 02:42:49,206 --> 02:42:51,206 commissioner ray. Yes. 1005 02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:54,111 commissioner alexander. Yes. 1006 02:42:54,111 --> 02:42:57,111 welcome. >> missioner wiseman ward yes. 1007 02:42:58,115 --> 02:43:00,115 commissioner gupta. Yes. 1008 02:43:01,251 --> 02:43:04,688 commissioner fisher yes. Vice president huling yes. 1009 02:43:04,688 --> 02:43:09,526 president kim yes. >> so moved I move approval of 1010 02:43:09,526 --> 02:43:13,726 the stipulated expulsion agreement for the student 1011 02:43:13,763 --> 02:43:16,800 matter 20262027 number seven for one calendar year from the 1012 02:43:16,800 --> 02:43:20,700 date of approval of the expulsion during the suspended 1013 02:43:20,700 --> 02:43:23,474 expulsion period the student will attend civic center high 1014 02:43:23,474 --> 02:43:27,740 school. >> can I have a second? 1015 02:43:27,210 --> 02:43:29,210 yes. Second. 1016 02:43:29,679 --> 02:43:31,679 okay. Real copies. 1017 02:43:33,250 --> 02:43:34,500 commissioner ray? Yes. 1018 02:43:34,500 --> 02:43:36,500 commissioner alexander. Yes. 1019 02:43:37,421 --> 02:43:40,421 commissioner rice when ward yes. 1020 02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:43,910 commissioner gupta. Yes. 1021 02:43:44,762 --> 02:43:48,962 commissioner fisher yes. Vice president healey yes. 1022 02:43:51,568 --> 02:43:56,368 president kim yes. So moved for student matter 1023 02:44:01,578 --> 02:44:05,983 2026202 sorry I move for the approval of a stipulated 1024 02:44:05,983 --> 02:44:09,186 expulsion agreement for student matter 20262027 number eight 1025 02:44:09,186 --> 02:44:12,922 for the remainder of the spring 2026 semester and the fall 2026 1026 02:44:12,922 --> 02:44:16,794 semester during the suspended expulsion period the student 1027 02:44:16,794 --> 02:44:21,932 will attend double high school. Can I have a second second real 1028 02:44:21,932 --> 02:44:24,332 copies. >> commissioner ray yes. 1029 02:44:25,535 --> 02:44:29,735 commissioner alexander yes. Commissioner wiseman ward yes. 1030 02:44:29,873 --> 02:44:33,473 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fischer no. 1031 02:44:33,677 --> 02:44:37,748 vice president huling yes. >> president kim yes. 1032 02:44:37,748 --> 02:44:41,885 so moved I move approval of the stipulated expulsion agreement 1033 02:44:41,885 --> 02:44:46,685 for student matter 20262027 number nine for the remainder 1034 02:44:47,157 --> 02:44:50,160 of the spring 2026 semester and the fall 2026 semester 1035 02:44:50,160 --> 02:44:53,430 during the suspended expulsion period the student will attend 1036 02:44:53,430 --> 02:44:55,699 civic center. Can I have a second please? 1037 02:44:55,699 --> 02:44:58,699 second real copies. Commissioner ray? 1038 02:45:00,700 --> 02:45:00,971 yes. Commissioner alexander. 1039 02:45:00,971 --> 02:45:03,971 yes. Commissioner wiseman ward yes. 1040 02:45:04,208 --> 02:45:07,208 commissioner gupta yes. Commissioner fischer. 1041 02:45:08,179 --> 02:45:11,179 yes. Vice president jung yes. 1042 02:45:11,715 --> 02:45:14,715 >> president kim yes. So moved. 1043 02:45:15,552 --> 02:45:19,656 thank you very much commissioners we are going to 1044 02:45:19,656 --> 02:45:22,732 return to item item f public hearing and adoption in part 1045 02:45:22,732 --> 02:45:26,135 because we have missed a public comment or who did indicate 1046 02:45:26,135 --> 02:45:30,606 their desire to speak council do we need to revote on this 1047 02:45:30,606 --> 02:45:36,879 item or simply open up the public comment period vote we 1048 02:45:36,879 --> 02:45:38,130 will revote. Commissioners are there any 1049 02:45:38,130 --> 02:45:40,616 questions about the procedures that we're about to undergo? 1050 02:45:40,616 --> 02:45:44,860 I will just redo this item. >> okay. 1051 02:45:44,860 --> 02:45:48,257 this is for item f one for public hearing and approval of 1052 02:45:48,257 --> 02:45:51,226 resolution regarding the sufficiency of textbooks 1053 02:45:51,226 --> 02:45:52,628 and instructional materials as required by education code 1054 02:45:52,628 --> 02:45:58,366 section 60119 we will take public comment on this item as 1055 02:45:58,366 --> 02:46:01,870 a reminder speakers have one minute to speak. 1056 02:46:01,870 --> 02:46:04,706 ms. Chang are there any speakers for this item? 1057 02:46:04,706 --> 02:46:07,706 vanessa marrero hi, good evening. 1058 02:46:12,848 --> 02:46:16,510 >> I want to thank hong may and alida for giving me the 1059 02:46:16,510 --> 02:46:22,651 opportunity to speak today. This is an item that relates to 1060 02:46:23,692 --> 02:46:25,590 instructional materials which I know you all know is very 1061 02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:28,129 important. >> I wanted to speak to the 1062 02:46:28,129 --> 02:46:31,233 true sufficiency that that is required rather than just a 1063 02:46:31,233 --> 02:46:36,330 physical book on index. It requires full accessibility 1064 02:46:38,540 --> 02:46:42,478 for every student. So to access means this 1065 02:46:42,478 --> 02:46:46,480 delivery modify text and assistive technology for 1066 02:46:46,480 --> 02:46:49,151 special education student students on day one and we have 1067 02:46:49,151 --> 02:46:52,821 passed that day providing robust lgm materials for 1068 02:46:52,821 --> 02:46:57,210 english language learners adopting curricula built around 1069 02:46:57,392 --> 02:47:01,229 a universal design for learning to support our neurodivergent 1070 02:47:01,229 --> 02:47:04,900 students with the schools that are reporting shortages 1071 02:47:04,900 --> 02:47:08,500 and compliance numbers alone aren't enough. 1072 02:47:08,904 --> 02:47:12,941 >> we need to make sure that you are board it's going to 1073 02:47:12,941 --> 02:47:14,760 make sure that there is a transparent process 1074 02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:17,512 and reporting missing and inaccessible tools and to 1075 02:47:17,512 --> 02:47:23,512 keep equity at the heart of all future curriculum decisions. 1076 02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:26,188 >> and I will email this to the board as well. 1077 02:47:26,188 --> 02:47:28,588 thank you. Thank you. 1078 02:47:36,265 --> 02:47:39,865 >> there are no other public comment. 1079 02:47:40,702 --> 02:47:45,502 >> thank you. I now close this public hearing 1080 02:47:46,740 --> 02:47:50,120 at 7:53 p.m.. Um commissioners uh can I have 1081 02:47:50,120 --> 02:47:54,149 a motion in a second? >> so moved second it has been 1082 02:47:54,149 --> 02:47:57,285 properly moved and seconded. >> the board approved item 1083 02:47:57,285 --> 02:48:00,755 269-22 sd one roll call vote please. 1084 02:48:00,755 --> 02:48:04,355 student delegate miss nellie foxman yes. 1085 02:48:04,759 --> 02:48:08,359 student delegate miss ana nguyen yes. 1086 02:48:12,167 --> 02:48:15,767 commissioner ray yes. Commissioner alexander yes. 1087 02:48:16,454 --> 02:48:20,257 commissioner wiseman ward yes. Commissioner gupta yes. 1088 02:48:20,257 --> 02:48:24,394 commissioner fisher yes. Vice president huling yes. 1089 02:48:24,394 --> 02:48:27,394 president kim yes. >> so moved. 1090 02:48:28,732 --> 02:48:31,869 thank you. We are moving to item two. 1091 02:48:31,869 --> 02:48:37,374 >> oh thank you very much staff I keep forgetting that I think 1092 02:48:37,374 --> 02:48:40,374 you just get comfortable. >> yes. 1093 02:48:40,678 --> 02:48:41,945 feel free to grab some water. Get comfortable. 1094 02:48:41,945 --> 02:48:48,520 we are moving to item 2 to 6 9-2 to speak three progress 1095 02:48:48,520 --> 02:48:53,452 monitoring workshop on student outcomes goal to summative can 1096 02:48:54,658 --> 02:48:58,162 I have a motion in a second I move item 269-2 to esp three 1097 02:48:58,162 --> 02:49:03,562 progress monitoring workshop on student outcomes goal two I 1098 02:49:03,901 --> 02:49:07,271 will second the progress monitoring workshop on student 1099 02:49:07,271 --> 02:49:08,773 outcomes goal to this primary properly moved and seconded 1100 02:49:08,773 --> 02:49:11,475 that the board approve this item. 1101 02:49:11,475 --> 02:49:14,979 um for some context commissioners thank you for 1102 02:49:14,979 --> 02:49:19,116 your participation in our board or treat recently where we have 1103 02:49:19,116 --> 02:49:23,520 the opportunity to go through some effective question asking 1104 02:49:23,520 --> 02:49:26,991 exercises with our governance coach ag who I believe is on 1105 02:49:26,991 --> 02:49:30,727 zoom with us are you there? I am. 1106 02:49:30,727 --> 02:49:34,932 thank you. You'll see in front of you a 1107 02:49:34,932 --> 02:49:39,203 few items that are hopefully going to help you facilitate 1108 02:49:39,203 --> 02:49:42,940 in a more effective time. One is a technical versus test 1109 02:49:42,940 --> 02:49:46,577 tactical for strategic document handout for tips that is for 1110 02:49:46,577 --> 02:49:51,377 effective monitoring question development that is a one 1111 02:49:52,917 --> 02:49:56,587 pager. The second is a stapled packet 1112 02:49:56,587 --> 02:49:58,880 boe progress monitoring reference sheet this reference 1113 02:49:58,880 --> 02:50:01,458 sheet was developed by staff to help us facilitate a more 1114 02:50:01,458 --> 02:50:05,429 effective question asking time you'll see on our procedures to 1115 02:50:05,429 --> 02:50:12,370 vote on the report before we monitor and vote to accept the 1116 02:50:12,370 --> 02:50:13,704 report at the end of our monitoring sessions along with 1117 02:50:13,704 --> 02:50:19,510 tips on the second page I want to acknowledge that this is our 1118 02:50:19,510 --> 02:50:23,414 first time engaging in this particular style. 1119 02:50:23,414 --> 02:50:27,551 I have reminded staff that moving forward we do want to be 1120 02:50:27,551 --> 02:50:30,654 sitting at a table so that will happen for our next monitoring 1121 02:50:30,654 --> 02:50:34,725 session. But for today as part of our 1122 02:50:34,725 --> 02:50:38,620 student outcomes focused governance model we will be 1123 02:50:38,620 --> 02:50:41,265 doing our best to hold each other and ourselves accountable 1124 02:50:41,265 --> 02:50:45,603 to effective question asking we may hit a few bumps in the road 1125 02:50:45,603 --> 02:50:49,540 and student delegates. >> I know you weren't there 1126 02:50:49,540 --> 02:50:50,875 with us on sunday but I encourage you to review the 1127 02:50:50,875 --> 02:50:53,677 documents with us and please do join us in participating 1128 02:50:53,677 --> 02:50:59,770 in this conversation. We will vote on whether to 1129 02:50:59,950 --> 02:51:04,420 approve the report at the end and I'll provide additional 1130 02:51:04,420 --> 02:51:10,630 context at the end for that and then I have some framing 1131 02:51:10,630 --> 02:51:14,634 for us to begin with as part of our student outcomes focused 1132 02:51:14,634 --> 02:51:16,200 governance model, the board is committed to monitoring the 1133 02:51:16,200 --> 02:51:18,771 district's progress towards achieving our goals 1134 02:51:18,771 --> 02:51:22,420 and honoring our cardinal guardrails tonight will be 1135 02:51:22,420 --> 02:51:25,378 monitoring goal to eighth grade math proficiency. 1136 02:51:25,378 --> 02:51:26,846 before we begin we need to confirm that the progress 1137 02:51:26,846 --> 02:51:29,816 monitoring report is complete effective progress monitoring 1138 02:51:29,816 --> 02:51:33,753 reports have the following four characteristic one it states 1139 02:51:33,753 --> 02:51:37,857 the goal does it clearly show which specific goal or interim 1140 02:51:37,857 --> 02:51:41,761 goal is being monitored? Two it shows the data does it 1141 02:51:41,761 --> 02:51:44,865 clearly show data for the three previous reporting periods 1142 02:51:44,865 --> 02:51:49,202 preferably on a line graph? Does it clearly show that the 1143 02:51:49,202 --> 02:51:52,605 current reporting period does it clearly show the target 1144 02:51:52,605 --> 02:51:55,775 reporting periods annual targets and deadline targets? 1145 02:51:55,775 --> 02:51:56,810 three it shares the interpretation. 1146 02:51:56,810 --> 02:51:59,880 does it clearly show the superintendent's current view 1147 02:51:59,880 --> 02:52:04,170 via defined set of indicators of system performance relative 1148 02:52:04,170 --> 02:52:07,987 to the goal and four does it represents the evidence 1149 02:52:07,987 --> 02:52:09,890 in plan? Does it clearly show the 1150 02:52:09,890 --> 02:52:11,791 supporting documentation that evidences the superintendents 1151 02:52:11,791 --> 02:52:14,994 understanding of system performance if the school 1152 02:52:14,994 --> 02:52:18,832 system is not at target or the superintendent's understanding 1153 02:52:18,832 --> 02:52:20,133 of the system performance indicates implementation is not 1154 02:52:20,133 --> 02:52:23,200 on track. Does the monitoring report 1155 02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:26,706 clearly describe systemic root causes strategic responses 1156 02:52:26,706 --> 02:52:30,510 including rationale initiative statuses and any meeting next 1157 02:52:30,510 --> 02:52:35,382 steps I believe all the criteria for an effective 1158 02:52:35,382 --> 02:52:38,385 report have been met but I will open up to the floor for other 1159 02:52:38,385 --> 02:52:39,619 commissioners. Does anyone have any evidence 1160 02:52:39,619 --> 02:52:44,419 that the elements are not present seeing none. 1161 02:52:48,261 --> 02:52:49,863 we will turn the floor over to the superintendent for her 1162 02:52:49,863 --> 02:52:51,863 presentation. >> great. 1163 02:52:52,980 --> 02:52:55,902 thank you, president kim and good evening commissioners. 1164 02:52:55,902 --> 02:52:58,302 student delegates, community members. 1165 02:52:59,272 --> 02:53:03,376 tonight I will be sharing with you a summative view of our 1166 02:53:03,376 --> 02:53:08,776 progress on goal to eighth grade mathematics for school 1167 02:53:10,170 --> 02:53:14,817 year 2526. >> as you know you know a lot 1168 02:53:18,910 --> 02:53:23,563 as you know we are we are we have chosen to govern ourselves 1169 02:53:23,563 --> 02:53:27,300 using the student outcomes focused governance framework 1170 02:53:27,300 --> 02:53:31,238 and that means that it is all of our jobs to stay laser 1171 02:53:31,238 --> 02:53:35,308 focused on student learning. We do this by tracking data 1172 02:53:35,308 --> 02:53:39,120 and when the data tells us that things are working then we 1173 02:53:39,120 --> 02:53:42,315 should look into it and understand why and to 1174 02:53:42,315 --> 02:53:45,318 perhaps do more. And then when data tells us 1175 02:53:45,318 --> 02:53:49,220 things are not working we really need to then double down 1176 02:53:49,220 --> 02:53:52,526 and examine why it's not working because the only way 1177 02:53:52,526 --> 02:53:53,993 for us to get to the student outcomes that we know our 1178 02:53:53,993 --> 02:53:57,297 students and our families deserve is by making sure that 1179 02:53:57,297 --> 02:54:00,479 the adults in the system change their behaviors to make that 1180 02:54:00,479 --> 02:54:03,479 happen. Tonight we will review 1181 02:54:04,517 --> 02:54:09,317 preliminary grade eight spec math results to understand 1182 02:54:10,622 --> 02:54:14,226 where we are making progress and where more supports are 1183 02:54:14,226 --> 02:54:15,327 needed. From there we will review what 1184 02:54:15,327 --> 02:54:21,327 we learned from implementation last year and share plans for 1185 02:54:22,134 --> 02:54:27,500 how we how we are going to strengthen the instructional 1186 02:54:27,500 --> 02:54:31,805 systems and practices that support mathematics across our 1187 02:54:33,345 --> 02:54:34,246 schools. >> I'm really happy to be 1188 02:54:34,246 --> 02:54:40,246 joined by jon davis, our deputy superintendent of ed services. 1189 02:54:40,953 --> 02:54:48,153 dr. Moon hi kim just raised by dr. Jen steiner, devin cookman 1190 02:54:49,610 --> 02:54:53,198 and then leticia irving in the back together we'll show you 1191 02:54:53,198 --> 02:54:57,536 what we've learned last year about our instructional systems 1192 02:54:57,536 --> 02:55:01,339 where we are making progress and where more supports are 1193 02:55:01,339 --> 02:55:02,274 needed. And then we'll show you the 1194 02:55:02,274 --> 02:55:05,478 plans for how we are planning to strengthen that. 1195 02:55:05,478 --> 02:55:09,214 >> next slide please. >> so we'll start with our goal 1196 02:55:09,214 --> 02:55:13,351 to data beginning with the overall goal and then progress 1197 02:55:13,351 --> 02:55:16,489 towards and our progress towards that. 1198 02:55:16,489 --> 02:55:19,625 then we'll look at the data across student groups, across 1199 02:55:19,625 --> 02:55:25,250 student groups and our within year measures to better 1200 02:55:27,232 --> 02:55:28,634 understand where we're at, where we are seeing progress 1201 02:55:28,634 --> 02:55:32,438 and where we need to focus. I also want to remind everyone 1202 02:55:32,438 --> 02:55:37,838 that you can access our publicly available dashboard on 1203 02:55:38,844 --> 02:55:46,520 our website at f usd.edu. Just go to the about asf usd 1204 02:55:46,520 --> 02:55:50,122 tab on the top of our website click into it and then you'll 1205 02:55:50,122 --> 02:55:53,959 see on the left hand side of. On the left hand side for the 1206 02:55:53,959 --> 02:55:57,830 menu bar you'll see is there's a link that's called asf usd 1207 02:55:57,830 --> 02:56:02,268 public dash data dashboard. >> you can click on to that to 1208 02:56:02,268 --> 02:56:05,805 see the data that we are looking at and please note we 1209 02:56:05,805 --> 02:56:12,405 will be updating that data with the 2526 data soon after the 1210 02:56:12,477 --> 02:56:17,249 state updates their data which we are projecting to be 1211 02:56:17,249 --> 02:56:22,649 in mid-october. >> so again for a goal to we 1212 02:56:24,423 --> 02:56:28,293 are focusing on increasing eighth grade math proficiency 1213 02:56:28,293 --> 02:56:32,764 as measured by the as bac math exam for the two to try to 1214 02:56:32,764 --> 02:56:38,164 achieve 65% of our eighth graders being proficient in the 1215 02:56:40,105 --> 02:56:44,305 s back score s back exam by 2028. 1216 02:56:45,878 --> 02:56:50,249 >> here when we review our preliminary 2526 results for 1217 02:56:50,249 --> 02:56:55,455 for eighth graders we saw a 4% increase compared to last year. 1218 02:56:55,455 --> 02:56:59,655 sorry one slide back. There you go. 1219 02:56:59,992 --> 02:57:03,996 we saw a 4% increase compared to last year. 1220 02:57:03,996 --> 02:57:07,999 this is an encouraging sign that we are beginning to turn 1221 02:57:07,999 --> 02:57:13,939 the curve for eighth grade math from pandemic learning recovery 1222 02:57:13,939 --> 02:57:17,209 to reestablishing conditions for success including 1223 02:57:17,209 --> 02:57:20,809 implementing our new math curriculum, increasing 1224 02:57:21,413 --> 02:57:25,130 professional learning opportunities for our educators 1225 02:57:25,184 --> 02:57:28,787 and of course our work on developing and implementing the 1226 02:57:28,787 --> 02:57:33,359 secondary math policy. We are looking to continue to 1227 02:57:33,359 --> 02:57:36,962 build on that momentum that we saw or that we that we saw last 1228 02:57:36,962 --> 02:57:41,162 year into this year. Next slide please. 1229 02:57:41,967 --> 02:57:46,639 I'm sorry. When we look across our student 1230 02:57:46,639 --> 02:57:49,942 groups we see encouraging gains among several groups including 1231 02:57:49,942 --> 02:57:56,542 our next and filipino students. At the same time, the results 1232 02:57:57,950 --> 02:57:59,518 for our african-american and pacific islander students 1233 02:57:59,518 --> 02:58:03,322 have remained relatively flat, highlighting an opportunity for 1234 02:58:03,322 --> 02:58:08,122 us to strengthen our support and accelerate progress 1235 02:58:09,662 --> 02:58:13,265 and more importantly to focus our energy and our attention on 1236 02:58:13,265 --> 02:58:16,265 these two populations. >> next slide. 1237 02:58:17,236 --> 02:58:21,340 >> when looking at our program groups we see small but 1238 02:58:21,340 --> 02:58:25,277 consistent gains among our english learners students 1239 02:58:25,277 --> 02:58:28,647 and students receiving special education services. 1240 02:58:28,647 --> 02:58:32,551 >> that said, we will continue to focus our efforts on 1241 02:58:32,551 --> 02:58:36,788 targeted supports that can help accelerate their math outcomes 1242 02:58:36,788 --> 02:58:42,188 for these students. >> and then just a reminder we 1243 02:58:45,931 --> 02:58:50,135 shared the fall and and winter star results for interim goals 1244 02:58:50,135 --> 02:58:54,335 2.12.2 and 2.3 in last year's progress monitoring reports 1245 02:58:57,760 --> 02:59:01,580 and we are resharing them here to show how our within year 1246 02:59:01,580 --> 02:59:05,985 measures help us monitor our progress throughout the year 1247 02:59:05,985 --> 02:59:10,723 when we layer in the preliminary a-spec results we 1248 02:59:10,723 --> 02:59:17,323 see continued gains across the three interim goals and with a 1249 02:59:17,729 --> 02:59:22,201 particular noticeable increase for the interim goal 2.2 which 1250 02:59:22,201 --> 02:59:26,272 is the group for our seventh grade students both within year 1251 02:59:26,272 --> 02:59:32,272 and across the years. Even though I just talked about 1252 02:59:35,948 --> 02:59:42,548 the significant increase that we are seeing for this year, we 1253 02:59:42,698 --> 02:59:46,298 remain optimistically encouraged by this progress 1254 02:59:47,302 --> 02:59:51,673 and this reflects meaningful work that our entire school 1255 02:59:51,673 --> 02:59:54,673 community is as moving towards . 1256 02:59:55,310 --> 02:59:59,982 under any other scenario this would be signify frequent 1257 02:59:59,982 --> 03:00:03,986 improvement and definitely a reason to celebrate. 1258 03:00:03,986 --> 03:00:11,126 however, we continue to not meet and be on target for the 1259 03:00:11,126 --> 03:00:14,996 very bold and audacious goals that we have set for ourselves 1260 03:00:14,996 --> 03:00:19,100 . And as a result we as a school 1261 03:00:19,100 --> 03:00:23,138 community have decided to rate our this particular progress 1262 03:00:23,138 --> 03:00:27,743 monitoring studies as off track because we believe that it is 1263 03:00:27,743 --> 03:00:36,143 going to take much more than 4% to get us to gold to target of 1264 03:00:37,252 --> 03:00:40,852 65% by 2028. >> however our focus is going 1265 03:00:41,223 --> 03:00:45,327 to continue to to work really hard with our school community 1266 03:00:45,327 --> 03:00:50,727 to build the conditions for high quality math instruction 1267 03:00:51,633 --> 03:00:55,504 and sustain a consistent pace of improvements that hopefully 1268 03:00:55,504 --> 03:01:00,304 will extend beyond 2028. But will definitely be focusing 1269 03:01:00,375 --> 03:01:04,446 very intentionally on our focus population and our program 1270 03:01:04,446 --> 03:01:08,250 groups for this year. So now I'm going to hand it 1271 03:01:08,250 --> 03:01:11,987 over to john and the team to provide a little bit more 1272 03:01:11,987 --> 03:01:17,987 context for the evidence that we are we are concluding 1273 03:01:18,793 --> 03:01:22,831 and our plans for how we are going to move forward and then 1274 03:01:22,831 --> 03:01:27,335 we will engage in a strategic conversation about how we as a 1275 03:01:27,335 --> 03:01:31,339 governing team will work together to move to continue to 1276 03:01:31,339 --> 03:01:32,307 move the needle for our students. 1277 03:01:32,307 --> 03:01:35,811 so with that, john, I'm going to hand it over for the 1278 03:01:35,811 --> 03:01:38,947 technical and technical technical and technical aspect 1279 03:01:38,947 --> 03:01:39,748 of this report. >> thank you. 1280 03:01:39,748 --> 03:01:42,284 dr. Two. Good evening everyone. 1281 03:01:42,284 --> 03:01:46,154 >> before we get into the evidence, probably some high 1282 03:01:46,154 --> 03:01:49,570 level things I want to point out right when we're talking 1283 03:01:49,570 --> 03:01:50,225 about eighth grade math and when we think back to last 1284 03:01:50,225 --> 03:01:54,163 year there were a number of pilots with algebra in eighth 1285 03:01:54,163 --> 03:01:57,432 grade math and and doing all of that. 1286 03:01:57,432 --> 03:02:02,504 we needed more math teachers. >> usually that is a huge 1287 03:02:02,504 --> 03:02:06,508 herculean task and I think we have to call out our human 1288 03:02:06,508 --> 03:02:09,778 resources team for making sure that we had not just all the 1289 03:02:09,778 --> 03:02:13,549 math teachers and middle school but extra math teachers for the 1290 03:02:13,549 --> 03:02:17,520 different classes that our scholars took. 1291 03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:21,189 >> and even though I know this progress monitoring report is 1292 03:02:21,189 --> 03:02:24,860 not about this year right as we've implemented the math 1293 03:02:24,860 --> 03:02:28,930 placement policy, the same thing has happened that you 1294 03:02:28,930 --> 03:02:35,530 know, just being staffed may seems kind of small but when 1295 03:02:35,622 --> 03:02:39,260 it's math teachers and it's all throughout middle school a lot 1296 03:02:39,260 --> 03:02:42,960 of teachers would say they would never teach middle 1297 03:02:42,960 --> 03:02:43,970 school. >> but as a former middle 1298 03:02:43,970 --> 03:02:49,970 school math teacher, yes, the idea that our human resources 1299 03:02:49,570 --> 03:02:53,841 team was able to step all of our schools with mostly double 1300 03:02:53,841 --> 03:02:57,677 the amount of math teachers in eighth grade is a huge 1301 03:02:57,677 --> 03:03:01,470 testament to their work and should not be overlooked 1302 03:03:01,470 --> 03:03:04,451 in any of this. We always need to be top notch 1303 03:03:04,451 --> 03:03:07,921 and they completely were in this endeavor. 1304 03:03:07,921 --> 03:03:11,591 I think the second thing to point out is right when you 1305 03:03:11,591 --> 03:03:15,396 think of the pilots from last year or again has we're moving 1306 03:03:15,396 --> 03:03:19,533 into this year a lot of students will be receiving two 1307 03:03:19,533 --> 03:03:23,704 math classes since we've been looking at student performance 1308 03:03:23,704 --> 03:03:28,141 I don't know the last 2030 years and education and going 1309 03:03:28,141 --> 03:03:29,243 deep you can think of no child left behind. 1310 03:03:29,243 --> 03:03:32,279 >> there's always been an idea and a ton of different times 1311 03:03:32,279 --> 03:03:36,283 when school districts and schools have double blocked 1312 03:03:36,283 --> 03:03:39,753 things. Devin kriegman and I were 1313 03:03:39,753 --> 03:03:43,690 talking about this today but it doesn't always work right? 1314 03:03:43,690 --> 03:03:47,695 a lot of times schools, high schools, middle schools 1315 03:03:47,695 --> 03:03:51,365 elementaries the natural thing is more and more and more but 1316 03:03:51,365 --> 03:03:55,302 there's a lot of data that will show more doesn't always work. 1317 03:03:55,302 --> 03:03:59,106 so I think we have to in this year in the coming years kind 1318 03:03:59,106 --> 03:04:02,710 of get a little bit more under the hood and see what that 1319 03:04:02,710 --> 03:04:06,113 difference is. One possible explanation is a 1320 03:04:06,113 --> 03:04:10,217 lot of times double blocking periods is the same teacher for 1321 03:04:10,217 --> 03:04:13,921 twice the amount of time and this is just different 1322 03:04:13,921 --> 03:04:17,258 right? A student goes to two different 1323 03:04:17,258 --> 03:04:20,795 classes, has two different teachers and in the end it is 1324 03:04:20,795 --> 03:04:24,331 two different math subjects. And when you think about 1325 03:04:24,331 --> 03:04:27,868 algebra you're going to use a lot of your eighth grade math 1326 03:04:27,868 --> 03:04:31,472 so you're kind of doing application the other just 1327 03:04:31,472 --> 03:04:34,942 conjecture on my part but to some degree it seem to be 1328 03:04:34,942 --> 03:04:36,143 working. I think when you combine that 1329 03:04:36,143 --> 03:04:40,214 with the new curriculum there are some mixed there that has 1330 03:04:40,214 --> 03:04:43,350 been positive and we're just going to need to look at that 1331 03:04:43,350 --> 03:04:47,870 more and more as we look at how schools implement this work 1332 03:04:47,870 --> 03:04:48,355 moving forward. >> again, I just want to point 1333 03:04:48,355 --> 03:04:51,324 out those big picture topics because I think we're going to 1334 03:04:51,324 --> 03:04:54,494 dive in a little bit deeper now and devin will start us off. 1335 03:04:54,494 --> 03:04:57,965 >> thank you so much. Next slide. 1336 03:04:57,965 --> 03:05:01,235 so for this first section related to evidence we are 1337 03:05:01,235 --> 03:05:04,371 going to present on two different items. 1338 03:05:04,371 --> 03:05:08,242 so one is a series of summary points associated with what we 1339 03:05:08,242 --> 03:05:11,812 did as strategic actions in the 2526 school year as well as 1340 03:05:11,812 --> 03:05:15,649 some high level takeaways in terms of what we learned 1341 03:05:15,649 --> 03:05:19,620 from those strategic actions from that point we are going to 1342 03:05:19,620 --> 03:05:22,990 lead into the plans. It's okay. 1343 03:05:22,990 --> 03:05:27,790 it's nice. >> and from that we're going to 1344 03:05:30,171 --> 03:05:33,807 lead into the plan section which are how we are applying 1345 03:05:33,807 --> 03:05:37,110 these learnings into the updated strategic plan for the 1346 03:05:37,110 --> 03:05:40,581 2627 school year. >> so in this first section it 1347 03:05:40,581 --> 03:05:44,618 may seem somewhat simple in bullet point but we adopted 1348 03:05:44,618 --> 03:05:51,358 new k-8 math curriculum and we did so across grades k through 1349 03:05:51,358 --> 03:05:52,693 eight while they are different vendors in terms of imagine 1350 03:05:52,693 --> 03:05:55,896 learning and illustrate illustrative math and amplify 1351 03:05:55,896 --> 03:06:00,167 does most math they do share the same pedagogical spine of 1352 03:06:00,167 --> 03:06:03,104 illustrative math. So we do feel excited about 1353 03:06:03,104 --> 03:06:07,375 that key alignment in terms of year one implementation we 1354 03:06:07,375 --> 03:06:11,579 actually had a really strong extent of use which was related 1355 03:06:11,579 --> 03:06:15,415 to an overall positive perception of the materials. 1356 03:06:15,415 --> 03:06:21,288 >> what is not surprising is that within year one we do have 1357 03:06:21,288 --> 03:06:25,250 a lot of room for growth in terms of quality of use. 1358 03:06:25,250 --> 03:06:26,460 >> so again what is unsurprising is that in initial 1359 03:06:26,460 --> 03:06:29,396 years of implementation we do see teachers learning the 1360 03:06:29,396 --> 03:06:34,796 materials and often struggling to hold up that student 1361 03:06:35,669 --> 03:06:37,400 ownership and potentially defaulting towards more direct 1362 03:06:37,400 --> 03:06:40,841 instruction which are all pedagogical strategies that we 1363 03:06:40,841 --> 03:06:42,760 are working with stuff on in terms of professional 1364 03:06:42,760 --> 03:06:44,476 development. >> next slide please. 1365 03:06:45,212 --> 03:06:48,816 in terms of that teacher professional development again 1366 03:06:48,816 --> 03:06:52,886 another very strong shout out to our h.r. 1367 03:06:52,886 --> 03:06:56,891 team whose exemplary work related to sub coverage rates 1368 03:06:56,891 --> 03:07:00,940 allowed us in 2526 to do professional development 1369 03:07:00,940 --> 03:07:03,897 release days for both our general and special education 1370 03:07:03,897 --> 03:07:07,568 middle school math teachers that work supported cross-site 1371 03:07:07,568 --> 03:07:11,705 collaboration with a series of release days focused on 1372 03:07:11,705 --> 03:07:15,709 different strategies such as differentiation and to support 1373 03:07:15,709 --> 03:07:18,846 students with ieps or integrated english language 1374 03:07:18,846 --> 03:07:20,470 development in the math classroom to support 1375 03:07:20,470 --> 03:07:23,647 multilingual learners. While those were incredibly 1376 03:07:23,651 --> 03:07:28,255 successful we did see two two pieces emerge which was one a 1377 03:07:28,255 --> 03:07:31,358 need for increased site support in between those release days 1378 03:07:31,358 --> 03:07:32,926 which we'll see as part of our instructional coaching work 1379 03:07:32,926 --> 03:07:36,263 this year and in addition we did see the need for more 1380 03:07:36,263 --> 03:07:39,263 explicit professional development around math 1381 03:07:40,133 --> 03:07:43,471 intervention particularly tier two and tier three math 1382 03:07:43,471 --> 03:07:46,540 intervention which again you'll see as part of our plan for 1383 03:07:46,540 --> 03:07:50,100 this year. >> next slide I'm running 1384 03:07:50,100 --> 03:07:53,100 concurrently to teacher professional development. 1385 03:07:53,947 --> 03:07:55,249 we also engaged in robust administrator professional 1386 03:07:55,249 --> 03:07:59,352 learning. So as part of a really strong 1387 03:07:59,352 --> 03:08:01,822 partnership between lead and curriculum and instruction 1388 03:08:01,822 --> 03:08:05,892 ,we provided monthly training for assistant principals on 1389 03:08:05,892 --> 03:08:09,696 calibrating around high quality instructional practices in the 1390 03:08:09,696 --> 03:08:13,834 math classroom and we worked with them on lesson and unit 1391 03:08:13,834 --> 03:08:17,434 internalization understanding the pedagogical backing of 1392 03:08:18,172 --> 03:08:19,589 certain instructional practices like students explaining 1393 03:08:19,589 --> 03:08:22,259 and justifying their thinking and looking for evidence 1394 03:08:22,259 --> 03:08:25,795 and guidance of those practices in the math curriculum as well 1395 03:08:25,795 --> 03:08:28,932 as looking for evidence of it in instructional videos. 1396 03:08:28,932 --> 03:08:33,837 >> that was followed up on with principals as part of lead 1397 03:08:33,837 --> 03:08:38,370 supervisors working with those principals on classroom 1398 03:08:38,241 --> 03:08:40,778 observations and learning walks and 1 to 1 check 1399 03:08:40,778 --> 03:08:44,214 and supervision. >> we saw a lot of growth come 1400 03:08:44,214 --> 03:08:48,585 out of that strand particularly related to instructional 1401 03:08:48,585 --> 03:08:49,753 leadership. So we are building on it this 1402 03:08:49,753 --> 03:08:53,900 year and continuing to deepen that partnership between lead 1403 03:08:53,900 --> 03:08:56,893 and cni which we are very excited about. 1404 03:08:56,893 --> 03:09:00,230 next slide please related to those professional learning 1405 03:09:00,230 --> 03:09:05,630 and curriculum strategies, we also as john spoke to 1406 03:09:06,703 --> 03:09:09,873 implemented a new secondary math policy in the 2526 school 1407 03:09:09,873 --> 03:09:14,311 year which came out of a partnership around a multiyear 1408 03:09:14,311 --> 03:09:18,182 research project with stanford around student outcomes in a 1409 03:09:18,182 --> 03:09:19,516 series of different models. And then that policy was 1410 03:09:19,516 --> 03:09:25,989 formally adopted in the spring in terms of what we learned as 1411 03:09:25,989 --> 03:09:30,727 it was the first spring of the implementation or operate opera 1412 03:09:30,727 --> 03:09:37,327 was thank you april. >> I'm not going to be able to 1413 03:09:38,469 --> 03:09:43,340 say yeah things I put in the plan to work. 1414 03:09:43,340 --> 03:09:47,945 what we did see was some complexity come out of that 1415 03:09:47,945 --> 03:09:49,120 policy. There are a number of choice 1416 03:09:49,120 --> 03:09:51,615 points for students and families and that led to 1417 03:09:51,615 --> 03:09:54,615 somewhat unpredictable enrollment patterns impacting 1418 03:09:54,952 --> 03:09:59,152 master scheduling budgets as well as staffing. 1419 03:09:59,622 --> 03:10:02,893 again, as john spoke to with just an incredibly strong 1420 03:10:02,893 --> 03:10:04,940 partnership across h.r. And lead and site 1421 03:10:04,940 --> 03:10:10,940 administrators we did do sort of heroic work associated with 1422 03:10:11,101 --> 03:10:14,905 staffing for math teachers. >> however, that complexity led 1423 03:10:14,905 --> 03:10:19,109 to a number of operational quandaries that needed to be 1424 03:10:19,109 --> 03:10:22,579 dealt with across the spring that does provide some learning 1425 03:10:22,579 --> 03:10:25,915 for how we might move forward given that was year one of the 1426 03:10:25,915 --> 03:10:26,950 policy. >> so across all of those 1427 03:10:26,950 --> 03:10:30,654 different endeavors as I spoke to you, there were a number of 1428 03:10:30,654 --> 03:10:34,591 learnings that came out that inform the plan that we had for 1429 03:10:34,591 --> 03:10:40,898 this coming school year and I will pass that to dr. Steiner. 1430 03:10:40,898 --> 03:10:44,668 hi everyone. Nice to see you again. 1431 03:10:44,668 --> 03:10:46,202 >> I'm going to talk a little bit about the plan and of 1432 03:10:46,202 --> 03:10:48,939 course I'm going to start with our very tiny little theory of 1433 03:10:48,939 --> 03:10:50,400 action to get out your reading glasses. 1434 03:10:50,400 --> 03:10:53,430 but what we know about our theory of action just for those 1435 03:10:53,430 --> 03:10:56,680 of us that don't quite remember what if we really want student 1436 03:10:56,680 --> 03:10:59,717 outcomes to change then we need what's happening in classrooms 1437 03:10:59,717 --> 03:11:00,850 to change. We need the interaction between 1438 03:11:00,850 --> 03:11:04,154 content teacher and student to shift. 1439 03:11:04,154 --> 03:11:05,555 and we've really done a lot of work in partnership with 1440 03:11:05,555 --> 03:11:08,358 curriculum in instruction and rpa and really thinking 1441 03:11:08,358 --> 03:11:11,232 about what that means and then if we want teachers to change 1442 03:11:11,232 --> 03:11:12,500 what they're doing in classrooms so that student 1443 03:11:12,500 --> 03:11:16,103 outcomes change, then in turn we need to support our our 1444 03:11:16,103 --> 03:11:20,408 school leaders and to support our structures in schools. 1445 03:11:20,408 --> 03:11:23,110 and then going backwards even further we need to support 1446 03:11:23,110 --> 03:11:24,412 professional learning at at that level. 1447 03:11:24,412 --> 03:11:28,820 so across our departments we need to really work together 1448 03:11:28,820 --> 03:11:30,117 and so that's what we're going to talk about now. 1449 03:11:30,117 --> 03:11:34,655 you can go to the next slide and I was just saying to devin 1450 03:11:34,655 --> 03:11:36,240 right before this started I always really want to start 1451 03:11:36,240 --> 03:11:38,492 with 2.2 so you'll see why in a second. 1452 03:11:38,492 --> 03:11:41,562 but in 2.1 we're really looking at a focal population our 1453 03:11:41,562 --> 03:11:44,465 african-american students and our aapi students and we 1454 03:11:44,465 --> 03:11:49,270 really what I would say is that something that we learned last 1455 03:11:49,270 --> 03:11:52,473 year and when we were really debriefing what happened with 1456 03:11:52,473 --> 03:11:55,109 2.1 last year and you can see this in our african american 1457 03:11:55,109 --> 03:11:58,446 data is that I don't think we called out as clearly what we 1458 03:11:58,446 --> 03:11:59,613 wanted to do with african-american students. 1459 03:11:59,613 --> 03:12:02,716 >> we we had a strong plan for our tier one in that first 1460 03:12:02,716 --> 03:12:06,320 rollout of the curriculum but we didn't do as good of a job 1461 03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:07,822 at saying who are our focal students and how do we support 1462 03:12:07,822 --> 03:12:09,624 them. And so this year we're working 1463 03:12:09,624 --> 03:12:14,950 closely with our our ally partnership, our cni and lead 1464 03:12:14,950 --> 03:12:18,165 to really say what what what specifically are we going to do 1465 03:12:18,165 --> 03:12:21,350 in addition to really teaching very high quality tier one 1466 03:12:21,350 --> 03:12:24,271 which I'll talk about in 2.2 we really want to say what else 1467 03:12:24,271 --> 03:12:28,750 are we going to do? And so identifying vocal 1468 03:12:28,750 --> 03:12:30,845 students, making sure that every single leader 1469 03:12:30,845 --> 03:12:35,116 and educator teacher in the classrooms know who their focal 1470 03:12:35,116 --> 03:12:38,519 students are and that that becomes part of what happens 1471 03:12:38,519 --> 03:12:39,854 in common planning time and department meetings when 1472 03:12:39,854 --> 03:12:42,156 they're really looking in grade level in grade level 1473 03:12:42,156 --> 03:12:43,657 collaboration when we're looking at what students need. 1474 03:12:43,657 --> 03:12:46,861 and then additionally for part of 2.1 we're going to do some 1475 03:12:46,861 --> 03:12:50,531 identification of lab schools and you heard us talk about 1476 03:12:50,531 --> 03:12:54,668 this for 1.1 as well that t.a. P and s of usd are partnering 1477 03:12:54,668 --> 03:12:57,971 to examine how we can improve our math instruction 1478 03:12:57,971 --> 03:12:58,906 specifically for our focal students. 1479 03:12:58,906 --> 03:13:02,410 and we've identified six schools where we're going to do 1480 03:13:02,410 --> 03:13:05,646 that in partnership with them and really learn hey, what are 1481 03:13:05,646 --> 03:13:09,950 we doing with leaders, teachers ,coaches and how are we 1482 03:13:09,950 --> 03:13:13,621 aligning what happens in the the leadership team with what 1483 03:13:13,621 --> 03:13:14,822 happens in professional learning and how can we 1484 03:13:14,822 --> 03:13:19,927 continue to learn? And so we'll be looking at that 1485 03:13:19,927 --> 03:13:23,764 in 2.2 on the next slide. This is really about are we 1486 03:13:23,764 --> 03:13:25,320 ensuring that there's high quality instruction happening 1487 03:13:25,320 --> 03:13:28,502 in every single classroom? What number one is the 1488 03:13:28,502 --> 03:13:31,838 curriculum and use to be see it and use and I will say that 1489 03:13:31,838 --> 03:13:35,275 having just gone on a learning walk last week in my first 1490 03:13:35,275 --> 03:13:36,710 middle school learning walk of the year I was really excited 1491 03:13:36,710 --> 03:13:39,647 to go into multiple math classrooms and really see both 1492 03:13:39,647 --> 03:13:43,250 a veteran math teacher implementing and the kinds of 1493 03:13:43,250 --> 03:13:46,454 amazing things veteran teachers can do and a brand new teacher 1494 03:13:46,454 --> 03:13:47,521 doing it. But because the curriculum is 1495 03:13:47,521 --> 03:13:52,921 clear they could do it well as well developing. 1496 03:13:54,361 --> 03:13:55,962 >> and so I think that that's really important that both our 1497 03:13:55,962 --> 03:13:58,733 brand new teachers and our veteran teachers can really 1498 03:13:58,733 --> 03:14:01,235 support our students. Then during the teacher 1499 03:14:01,235 --> 03:14:02,636 collaboration time we really want the coaches and the 1500 03:14:02,636 --> 03:14:06,540 assistant principals to work with those teachers. 1501 03:14:06,540 --> 03:14:08,722 >> so going back to it, devon said earlier during our 1502 03:14:08,722 --> 03:14:10,124 principal meetings and during our assistant principal 1503 03:14:10,124 --> 03:14:12,860 meetings we're going to be getting better this year at 1504 03:14:12,860 --> 03:14:16,297 what we did last year and helping our school leaders 1505 03:14:16,297 --> 03:14:17,364 to know what they're looking for. 1506 03:14:17,364 --> 03:14:19,933 our new learning walk tool is really clear it's the interplay 1507 03:14:19,933 --> 03:14:21,335 between curriculum, what the teacher is doing and what the 1508 03:14:21,335 --> 03:14:25,390 student is doing and we're using that in our learning 1509 03:14:25,390 --> 03:14:27,909 walks to lift up what do we need to do better during that 1510 03:14:27,909 --> 03:14:28,942 teaching? Collaborate teacher 1511 03:14:28,942 --> 03:14:31,812 collaboration what needs to happen during coaching cycles 1512 03:14:31,812 --> 03:14:33,514 or what do we need to do to address professional learning 1513 03:14:33,514 --> 03:14:37,510 in every aspect of the of the school and then how can we 1514 03:14:37,510 --> 03:14:40,722 continue to adjust? And then finally in 2.3 we're 1515 03:14:40,722 --> 03:14:44,425 going to go back to a focal population. 1516 03:14:44,425 --> 03:14:45,793 so this is really about our english learners. 1517 03:14:45,793 --> 03:14:48,862 I think I mentioned this in the last meeting that I like to 1518 03:14:48,862 --> 03:14:51,932 think about l.d. For english learners as being like the 1519 03:14:51,932 --> 03:14:55,469 onramp to a highway, right? So if we want every student to 1520 03:14:55,469 --> 03:14:59,273 be on the highway going along at 65 or 75 miles an hour, the 1521 03:14:59,273 --> 03:15:02,877 old course gets them to get into the car that speeds up 1522 03:15:02,877 --> 03:15:05,946 and goes faster and so what we're looking for there is 1523 03:15:05,946 --> 03:15:07,214 we're looking specifically at both integrated language 1524 03:15:07,214 --> 03:15:10,840 development and math professional development. 1525 03:15:10,840 --> 03:15:13,870 so how are we giving students the language scaffolds that 1526 03:15:13,870 --> 03:15:16,624 they can access the math do we see sentence frames? 1527 03:15:16,624 --> 03:15:18,358 do we see word banks? Do we see ways that english 1528 03:15:18,358 --> 03:15:21,696 learners can engage in the math and then also in their 1529 03:15:21,696 --> 03:15:24,432 designated field? Are we seeing some of those 1530 03:15:24,432 --> 03:15:25,566 things? >> and so we're going to be 1531 03:15:25,566 --> 03:15:28,436 looking at that with our our learning walk tools as well 1532 03:15:28,436 --> 03:15:32,306 that might be at next slide. So that's it. 1533 03:15:32,306 --> 03:15:35,906 and now we'll take your questions. 1534 03:15:36,410 --> 03:15:39,410 >> thank you. Appreciate the presentation. 1535 03:15:39,513 --> 03:15:43,651 at this time we will move to commissioner questions. 1536 03:15:43,651 --> 03:15:47,254 as a reminder there are various types of questions board 1537 03:15:47,254 --> 03:15:48,523 members can ask about the monitoring report including 1538 03:15:48,523 --> 03:15:51,926 questions that are technical, tactical and strategic 1539 03:15:51,926 --> 03:15:54,529 in nature to clarify the difference technical questions 1540 03:15:54,529 --> 03:15:58,132 or questions about how something is measured. 1541 03:15:58,132 --> 03:15:59,500 tactical questions are about how or by whom something is 1542 03:15:59,500 --> 03:16:03,370 done and strategic questions or questions about how something 1543 03:16:03,370 --> 03:16:07,608 aligns to our goals and guardrails as part of our 1544 03:16:07,608 --> 03:16:10,444 governance model and effective monitoring practices. 1545 03:16:10,444 --> 03:16:11,679 commissioners have asked technical and technical 1546 03:16:11,679 --> 03:16:14,815 questions in advance of the meeting. 1547 03:16:14,815 --> 03:16:16,116 these questions and staff responses are available in the 1548 03:16:16,116 --> 03:16:19,186 q&a doc published on the with the agenda because our 1549 03:16:19,186 --> 03:16:22,423 technical and technical questions hav been asked 1550 03:16:22,423 --> 03:16:23,758 in advance, we will focus the conversation on strategic 1551 03:16:23,758 --> 03:16:26,828 issues in practice this means that commissioners will ask 1552 03:16:26,828 --> 03:16:31,131 questions of the superintendent who is a strategic leader of 1553 03:16:31,131 --> 03:16:34,502 the district as a guiding framework commissioner 1554 03:16:34,502 --> 03:16:36,360 questions should align to our smart acronym which states that 1555 03:16:36,360 --> 03:16:38,239 effective questions are strategy focused measure 1556 03:16:38,239 --> 03:16:42,409 focused ask oriented result focused and time bound. 1557 03:16:42,409 --> 03:16:46,180 I'd also like to share a couple of other reminders for 1558 03:16:46,180 --> 03:16:49,317 commissioners please ensure that your questions are related 1559 03:16:49,317 --> 03:16:50,450 to the data that's in the monitoring report. 1560 03:16:50,450 --> 03:16:56,759 please don't give opinions. I will cut you off with a smile 1561 03:16:56,759 --> 03:16:57,593 . As the facilitator I will try 1562 03:16:57,593 --> 03:17:02,980 to ensure that a conversation stays strategic and I encourage 1563 03:17:02,980 --> 03:17:05,568 commissioners to reformulate their questions if it is not. 1564 03:17:05,568 --> 03:17:06,936 these practices will help ensure that we are conducting 1565 03:17:06,936 --> 03:17:09,472 our progress monitoring most effectively and help us 1566 03:17:09,472 --> 03:17:13,342 understand how the reality of our students aligns with our 1567 03:17:13,342 --> 03:17:17,213 vision for them. At this time I will open the 1568 03:17:17,213 --> 03:17:19,613 floor to commissioner questions . 1569 03:17:20,616 --> 03:17:23,616 commissioner alexander thanks president kim. 1570 03:17:27,230 --> 03:17:31,494 I'd like to start with a follow up to one of the questions that 1571 03:17:31,494 --> 03:17:34,630 my colleagues asked in the q&a document. 1572 03:17:34,630 --> 03:17:38,968 it was a question that referred to slide six and the 1573 03:17:38,968 --> 03:17:43,168 differences between the performance of all students 1574 03:17:45,841 --> 03:17:50,546 and our focus groups or and or particular there were increases 1575 03:17:50,546 --> 03:17:54,483 in some groups of students but then not in our focus groups 1576 03:17:54,483 --> 03:17:57,487 and I think that's reflected in the data on this on slide 1577 03:17:57,487 --> 03:17:58,520 six. And so one of my colleagues 1578 03:17:58,520 --> 03:18:02,580 asked in the q&a document does this suggest the strategies 1579 03:18:02,580 --> 03:18:03,192 aren't working for some of our focus groups? 1580 03:18:03,192 --> 03:18:09,732 and then there was a staff response that said that the 1581 03:18:09,732 --> 03:18:11,267 overall strategies were working or seemed to be starting to 1582 03:18:11,267 --> 03:18:16,872 take root but that we would need additional supports like 1583 03:18:16,872 --> 03:18:18,207 each and every initiative in tiers two and three as 1584 03:18:18,207 --> 03:18:21,510 necessary for for focus students to fully receive the 1585 03:18:21,510 --> 03:18:24,510 benefits of the overall strategies. 1586 03:18:24,613 --> 03:18:26,149 and so I guess I wanted to understand that a bit more 1587 03:18:26,149 --> 03:18:29,652 about not about what we're planning in the future but what 1588 03:18:29,652 --> 03:18:33,689 we're seeing now based on the data in the past year, based on 1589 03:18:33,689 --> 03:18:36,893 the data. Where are we seeing success for 1590 03:18:36,893 --> 03:18:40,429 our focus students? I understanding that we're not 1591 03:18:40,429 --> 03:18:44,367 overall but where are the places where we are seeing 1592 03:18:44,367 --> 03:18:45,802 success and what are we learning from that about which 1593 03:18:45,802 --> 03:18:48,504 strategies are working for focal students? 1594 03:18:48,504 --> 03:18:51,240 I mean whether those are again tier one or tier two tie 1595 03:18:51,240 --> 03:18:54,643 three. What are we seeing in terms of 1596 03:18:54,643 --> 03:19:00,430 success and and what are we learning from that? 1597 03:19:02,118 --> 03:19:05,988 well, just so a couple of things. 1598 03:19:05,988 --> 03:19:12,928 one is just that I think when we shifted to a state aligned 1599 03:19:12,928 --> 03:19:16,999 state standard curriculum we were able to train our teachers 1600 03:19:16,999 --> 03:19:21,904 around using the curriculum and also the curriculum from 1601 03:19:21,904 --> 03:19:26,800 from what we have experienced is is actually very teacher 1602 03:19:26,800 --> 03:19:29,845 friendly. And so there are some clear 1603 03:19:29,845 --> 03:19:34,645 cadences on lesson planning and sequencing of lessons. 1604 03:19:36,519 --> 03:19:41,900 because of that we were able to see that the curriculum is 1605 03:19:41,900 --> 03:19:44,626 being implemented more to its fidelity. 1606 03:19:44,626 --> 03:19:48,709 it doesn't fully speak to the difference that we're seeing by 1607 03:19:48,709 --> 03:19:52,646 our our focal population but I think in general we are seeing 1608 03:19:52,646 --> 03:19:56,116 that more teachers are feeling more comfortable using our 1609 03:19:56,116 --> 03:20:00,254 curriculum and therefore more correct students are actually 1610 03:20:00,254 --> 03:20:07,361 being pushed to to learn and to to engage in the curriculum 1611 03:20:07,361 --> 03:20:13,961 more in terms of very specific strategies that that we are 1612 03:20:14,735 --> 03:20:15,802 using for our our focal population. 1613 03:20:15,802 --> 03:20:22,402 I will have to admit that we don't have specific strategies 1614 03:20:22,409 --> 03:20:23,811 at this moment in time. This is why the staff is 1615 03:20:23,811 --> 03:20:27,347 proposing to see to use some of our best practices that we're 1616 03:20:27,347 --> 03:20:31,652 seeing and learning from each and every student by name 1617 03:20:31,652 --> 03:20:35,589 strategy which is to have very focused and targeted 1618 03:20:35,589 --> 03:20:39,789 interventions for students who need additional supports. 1619 03:20:41,528 --> 03:20:46,233 so we're going to try that and we're going to see how that 1620 03:20:46,233 --> 03:20:50,437 works and if it works we'll do more of it. 1621 03:20:50,437 --> 03:20:51,638 if it doesn't, we'll figure out how to pivot. 1622 03:20:51,638 --> 03:20:57,778 I think the other strategic move that we did last year was 1623 03:20:57,778 --> 03:21:01,978 was was allocate additional coaching staffing, additional 1624 03:21:02,249 --> 03:21:05,686 coaching coaching supports, instructional supports to 1625 03:21:05,686 --> 03:21:10,190 schools and we're hoping that that is also going to yield the 1626 03:21:10,190 --> 03:21:14,528 result that we're we're predicting for for it to 1627 03:21:14,528 --> 03:21:15,495 happen. >> so having additional 1628 03:21:15,495 --> 03:21:18,431 supports for our educators, having additional professional 1629 03:21:18,431 --> 03:21:24,971 development for educators will be able to be able to to target 1630 03:21:24,971 --> 03:21:26,439 some of those supports for to move the needle for our local 1631 03:21:26,439 --> 03:21:31,239 population. And we know staff can add more. 1632 03:21:33,313 --> 03:21:37,684 yes, I was just going to say that what I wanted to reference 1633 03:21:37,684 --> 03:21:40,387 something that john brought up earlier which was this idea of 1634 03:21:40,387 --> 03:21:43,457 additional math teachers. So when we were first thinking 1635 03:21:43,457 --> 03:21:46,893 about how to implement the secondary math policy to ensure 1636 03:21:46,893 --> 03:21:48,295 that students who were wanted to take algebra could take 1637 03:21:48,295 --> 03:21:52,166 algebra what we ended up noticing and we'll talk about 1638 03:21:52,166 --> 03:21:55,435 this later when we review our data around algebra what we 1639 03:21:55,435 --> 03:21:58,372 noticed is that lots of students opted to take both 1640 03:21:58,372 --> 03:21:59,840 algebra and math even though there were options to either 1641 03:21:59,840 --> 03:22:05,845 just take my theater and in some cases just take algebra 1642 03:22:05,845 --> 03:22:09,516 and so in some cases we didn't have a lot of extra fte 1643 03:22:09,516 --> 03:22:10,918 in schools like in some places we really use the entirety of 1644 03:22:10,918 --> 03:22:14,721 the fte assigned to the school to cover the algebra need. 1645 03:22:14,721 --> 03:22:18,391 but I would say that in many schools and many of the schools 1646 03:22:18,391 --> 03:22:22,950 where a large percentage of our focal populations live, we 1647 03:22:22,950 --> 03:22:25,640 actually do have some fte kind of wiggle room per se. 1648 03:22:25,640 --> 03:22:28,335 we needed to hire whole fte because otherwise we were going 1649 03:22:28,335 --> 03:22:29,869 to have not just hiring a math teacher but hiring a point for 1650 03:22:29,869 --> 03:22:32,873 math teacher was going to be impossible. 1651 03:22:32,873 --> 03:22:34,274 >> and so what we're excited about this year that has not 1652 03:22:34,274 --> 03:22:37,210 been true in years past. Failure like this is that we 1653 03:22:37,210 --> 03:22:40,934 have a number of math labs which is our tier two strategy 1654 03:22:40,934 --> 03:22:43,904 and tier three strategy of math lab a and b still getting the 1655 03:22:43,904 --> 03:22:47,808 terminology right and we really are excited about the number of 1656 03:22:47,808 --> 03:22:51,578 students both that have double math in eighth grade but also 1657 03:22:51,578 --> 03:22:54,715 the number of sixth and seventh graders in a number of our 1658 03:22:54,715 --> 03:22:56,116 schools that serve large percentages of our vocal 1659 03:22:56,116 --> 03:22:59,652 populations that are able to take a math or a math b lab 1660 03:22:59,652 --> 03:23:03,560 class and we're excited to see where this goes. 1661 03:23:03,560 --> 03:23:06,192 is that going to make more students eligible for algebra? 1662 03:23:06,192 --> 03:23:09,463 is that going to improve the math proficiency for our 1663 03:23:09,463 --> 03:23:10,931 students in addition to what we're going to do with each 1664 03:23:10,931 --> 03:23:13,767 and every? Because I think the point is is 1665 03:23:13,767 --> 03:23:17,604 that the tier one instruction does need to improve and the 1666 03:23:17,604 --> 03:23:21,208 presence of a strong curriculum will help it improve. 1667 03:23:21,208 --> 03:23:22,810 but then we also as we've talked about in the past need 1668 03:23:22,810 --> 03:23:25,145 to actually address implicit bias and expectations for 1669 03:23:25,145 --> 03:23:28,482 teachers, right? We have to have everyone 1670 03:23:28,482 --> 03:23:32,452 in every classroom expecting students to be able to engage 1671 03:23:32,452 --> 03:23:33,820 and not to shift the math per particular student groups 1672 03:23:33,820 --> 03:23:37,291 because otherwise they're never going to be able to achieve at 1673 03:23:37,291 --> 03:23:40,260 the levels we expect them to. So those are just a couple of 1674 03:23:40,260 --> 03:23:43,697 the other things that we're examining and I know that this 1675 03:23:43,697 --> 03:23:45,232 week in my conversations with my lead colleagues as we start 1676 03:23:45,232 --> 03:23:49,569 our evaluations for principals as we roll out the lab process, 1677 03:23:49,569 --> 03:23:52,872 we specifically said all right ,so how are we incorporating 1678 03:23:52,872 --> 03:23:56,343 vocal student conversations in the conversations with 1679 03:23:56,343 --> 03:23:57,344 principals about their in their roles? 1680 03:23:57,344 --> 03:23:58,346 right. How do we make sure that we're 1681 03:23:58,346 --> 03:24:01,548 not just waiting till the end to be like this is working or 1682 03:24:01,548 --> 03:24:02,782 not working? So those are just a couple of 1683 03:24:02,782 --> 03:24:06,982 additional facts I'll add commissioner weissbourd thank 1684 03:24:13,527 --> 03:24:17,127 you. It's a similar ish but 1685 03:24:17,598 --> 03:24:24,198 different take on the question. >> so we saw that eighth grade 1686 03:24:25,271 --> 03:24:28,608 filipino students demonstrated a significantly statistically 1687 03:24:28,608 --> 03:24:32,208 significant ten percentage point growth rate. 1688 03:24:32,879 --> 03:24:37,250 >> and so I want to know what do we know? 1689 03:24:37,250 --> 03:24:38,218 maybe the question is do we know? 1690 03:24:38,218 --> 03:24:40,953 hopefully we do but what do we know about the specific 1691 03:24:40,953 --> 03:24:44,324 conditions or effective practices in those classrooms 1692 03:24:44,324 --> 03:24:48,161 that accounted for that? I mean that was massive 1693 03:24:48,161 --> 03:24:52,432 progress and I don't maybe I'm making I don't I'm wondering 1694 03:24:52,432 --> 03:24:56,169 presumably those students are amongst different classrooms 1695 03:24:56,169 --> 03:25:01,174 in different schools like is it just random but that it is 1696 03:25:01,174 --> 03:25:03,574 seems very statistic significant. 1697 03:25:04,444 --> 03:25:07,781 so do we know anything about those conditions that would 1698 03:25:07,781 --> 03:25:11,518 allow us to have insight and allow us to replicate 1699 03:25:11,518 --> 03:25:14,988 in other places? I mean it looks like such 1700 03:25:14,988 --> 03:25:16,122 different numbers compared to the rest. 1701 03:25:16,122 --> 03:25:22,122 yeah. Do you I know I think we we had 1702 03:25:23,597 --> 03:25:27,867 a moment of of conversation about like what is this that 1703 03:25:27,867 --> 03:25:31,170 we're seeing and why are we seeing it? 1704 03:25:31,170 --> 03:25:35,417 >> so to be clear it's great. Oh absolu lea absolutely it's 1705 03:25:35,417 --> 03:25:39,200 great and it could be great because because the group of 1706 03:25:39,200 --> 03:25:43,820 students who entered middle school were fantastic right? 1707 03:25:46,294 --> 03:25:50,990 so we need to actually do a good job at seeing how did they 1708 03:25:50,990 --> 03:25:52,968 do in fifth grade? How did they perform in sixth 1709 03:25:52,968 --> 03:25:55,738 grade? In seventh grade so that we can 1710 03:25:55,738 --> 03:25:59,775 understand is it a good being? Is it a cohort of students that 1711 03:25:59,775 --> 03:26:03,245 is kind of where that's the reason why we're seeing this. 1712 03:26:03,245 --> 03:26:07,682 is it because there are there's there's a certain level of 1713 03:26:07,682 --> 03:26:12,421 differentiation that is happening in the school in the 1714 03:26:12,421 --> 03:26:17,821 school environment that's happening now or is it because 1715 03:26:19,328 --> 03:26:23,532 we changed the curriculum and we're providing deeper 1716 03:26:23,532 --> 03:26:24,733 professional development for our educators? 1717 03:26:24,733 --> 03:26:28,770 >> we won't be able to answer unfortunately fully answer that 1718 03:26:28,770 --> 03:26:35,370 particular question until we we do more of our learning walks 1719 03:26:36,211 --> 03:26:40,150 and collect that data this year and it's part of the plan 1720 03:26:40,150 --> 03:26:46,354 moving forward is for us to go into the classrooms and really 1721 03:26:46,354 --> 03:26:50,426 observe and ask those types of particular questions so that we 1722 03:26:50,426 --> 03:26:54,429 can then and you know I know that the team we're redesigned 1723 03:26:54,429 --> 03:26:55,898 the learning walk tool so that we can collect that type of 1724 03:26:55,898 --> 03:26:57,898 information in. >> yeah. 1725 03:27:01,570 --> 03:27:02,705 just wanted to add a couple of things. 1726 03:27:02,705 --> 03:27:05,574 I mean it's a it's a great question and as we were looking 1727 03:27:05,574 --> 03:27:11,413 at those at the data we were also pretty curious about that 1728 03:27:11,413 --> 03:27:12,514 . So I did have staff look more 1729 03:27:12,514 --> 03:27:15,651 deeply into it but I think it kind of gets at the I think 1730 03:27:15,651 --> 03:27:19,588 that some of the response that was in the rfi which really 1731 03:27:19,588 --> 03:27:23,258 kind of gets at the small numbers and how difficult it is 1732 03:27:23,258 --> 03:27:24,393 to pinpoint conditional types of things. 1733 03:27:24,393 --> 03:27:27,529 one of the things we noticed when we looked at the 121 1734 03:27:27,529 --> 03:27:30,866 students that we're talking about is that there were only 1735 03:27:30,866 --> 03:27:34,536 like 5 or 6 sites that had ten or more students and the rest 1736 03:27:34,536 --> 03:27:38,106 of them were very kind of like disparate like 5 or 6 students. 1737 03:27:38,106 --> 03:27:42,211 and given the nature of the of house how schools have their 1738 03:27:42,211 --> 03:27:45,580 classes and the periods that they have them in, it's the 1739 03:27:45,580 --> 03:27:48,984 likelihood that they're very spread even across the periods 1740 03:27:48,984 --> 03:27:49,985 . And so while at the same time 1741 03:27:49,985 --> 03:27:52,821 we want to be able to look at it more deeply to think about 1742 03:27:52,821 --> 03:27:53,956 those conditions, it's also tricky because of the 1743 03:27:53,956 --> 03:27:57,593 volatility of the small numbers to try to get at that. 1744 03:27:57,593 --> 03:28:00,829 so we'll continue to look at that more deeply. 1745 03:28:00,829 --> 03:28:04,299 but just wanted to talk about, you know, how the challenge of 1746 03:28:04,299 --> 03:28:05,601 looking at specific student groups where the where the 1747 03:28:05,601 --> 03:28:08,603 group sizes are really small kind of comes into play. 1748 03:28:08,603 --> 03:28:12,340 we want to obviously make sure that we're continuing to uplift 1749 03:28:12,340 --> 03:28:13,909 where that's happening but it's also kind of thinking through 1750 03:28:13,909 --> 03:28:17,178 is there something that's happening with a particular 1751 03:28:17,178 --> 03:28:20,315 cohort as you mentioned so continued inquiry that will 1752 03:28:20,315 --> 03:28:21,784 have on our end and we'll hopefully try to, you know, 1753 03:28:21,784 --> 03:28:24,269 nail down kind of something that might be a significant 1754 03:28:24,269 --> 03:28:28,274 thread for us moving forward. >> so maybe just a follow up I 1755 03:28:28,274 --> 03:28:34,874 guess this is where I I find myself challenged and maybe 1756 03:28:35,414 --> 03:28:38,618 we're all challenged in terms of like the when is there value 1757 03:28:38,618 --> 03:28:43,222 in having these sort of the numbers pass so carefully? 1758 03:28:43,222 --> 03:28:46,693 I mean I think there's value there but like when are we 1759 03:28:46,693 --> 03:28:49,862 assigning too much value to it because if there's not actual 1760 03:28:49,862 --> 03:28:53,365 conditions here that allowed for this and it is another 1761 03:28:53,365 --> 03:28:54,700 reason I think that's really important because then I 1762 03:28:54,700 --> 03:28:57,837 wouldn't want to. Yes, learning walks are good 1763 03:28:57,837 --> 03:29:00,440 but if the learning walks aren't going to share any 1764 03:29:00,440 --> 03:29:03,442 insight that just seems like a lot of resources that are not 1765 03:29:03,442 --> 03:29:10,642 maybe well as well spent as we might want them to be. 1766 03:29:11,250 --> 03:29:12,951 >> I think one piece I just wanted to parse out a little 1767 03:29:12,951 --> 03:29:17,751 bit was clarifying the difference between two separate 1768 03:29:19,358 --> 03:29:20,460 data sets. So I think on one hand when we 1769 03:29:20,460 --> 03:29:23,429 look at the data that's in the slides and that just just spoke 1770 03:29:23,429 --> 03:29:26,866 to and we're focusing on student outcome data on the 1771 03:29:26,866 --> 03:29:30,737 assessment and if we go back to the theory of action our 1772 03:29:30,737 --> 03:29:33,806 learning walk data is sort of like a step before that piece 1773 03:29:33,806 --> 03:29:35,141 which is the quality of classroom practice that we 1774 03:29:35,141 --> 03:29:38,477 observe for. And so what we want to try to 1775 03:29:38,477 --> 03:29:42,381 parse out in that regard is like where we see strong 1776 03:29:42,381 --> 03:29:46,785 examples of action one around curriculum and content two 1777 03:29:46,785 --> 03:29:49,622 teacher strong teacher instructional practice 1778 03:29:49,622 --> 03:29:50,923 and three strong student ownership where we see evidence 1779 03:29:50,923 --> 03:29:57,663 of that, do we then see growth in terms of strong gains 1780 03:29:57,663 --> 03:29:59,640 in student proficiency? So that is a little bit of the 1781 03:29:59,640 --> 03:30:02,368 tension which is a slightly different way maybe to hold 1782 03:30:02,368 --> 03:30:05,638 those data sets. What I would say is just to 1783 03:30:05,638 --> 03:30:09,775 make a plug for the lrning walk data is that we do see it 1784 03:30:09,775 --> 03:30:14,379 as highly impactful both for you know, understanding how to 1785 03:30:14,379 --> 03:30:17,516 design and proactively respond with shifts in professional 1786 03:30:17,516 --> 03:30:18,917 development. I was literally it was in a 1787 03:30:18,917 --> 03:30:22,121 classroom observing a kindergarten math lesson today 1788 03:30:22,121 --> 03:30:25,257 I was looking at the dashboard . 1789 03:30:25,257 --> 03:30:26,992 one of the things I had noticed in the kindergarten learning 1790 03:30:26,992 --> 03:30:30,329 walk also showed up in the dashboard around an area of 1791 03:30:30,329 --> 03:30:34,330 growth districtwide so immediately there's a follow up 1792 03:30:34,330 --> 03:30:35,600 conversation around like how do we target this in professional 1793 03:30:35,600 --> 03:30:38,670 development or coaching? I think the same is true for 1794 03:30:38,670 --> 03:30:41,573 sites as well. And so our hope in that data 1795 03:30:41,573 --> 03:30:44,877 set is to be able to think about how to improve engage 1796 03:30:44,877 --> 03:30:49,810 in continuous improvement on a quicker and more proactive 1797 03:30:49,810 --> 03:30:53,152 cycle so we're not just waiting until the student outcome data 1798 03:30:53,152 --> 03:30:56,955 hits but we're trying to continuously improve as we're 1799 03:30:56,955 --> 03:30:59,624 watching practice develop. And one additional plug I'll 1800 03:30:59,624 --> 03:31:03,950 just say for the strong work that lead has taken on 1801 03:31:03,950 --> 03:31:06,498 in working with educators and the strong work that site 1802 03:31:06,498 --> 03:31:07,833 administrators and their instructional leadership teams 1803 03:31:07,833 --> 03:31:11,369 and teacher leaders and coaches have all taken on is for 1804 03:31:11,369 --> 03:31:14,539 september. Again, I was just checking the 1805 03:31:14,539 --> 03:31:18,383 numbers we have close to 500 observations logged across just 1806 03:31:18,383 --> 03:31:21,520 for the month of september so it is a pretty robust data set 1807 03:31:21,520 --> 03:31:25,423 for us to work with for engaging and continuous 1808 03:31:25,423 --> 03:31:27,823 improvement around instructional quality. 1809 03:31:29,260 --> 03:31:30,328 >> thank you and I appreciate that. 1810 03:31:30,328 --> 03:31:33,865 the reminder to sort of not conflate data sets 1811 03:31:33,865 --> 03:31:36,100 and understand their different values and their different 1812 03:31:36,100 --> 03:31:37,100 purposes. So I appreciate that. 1813 03:31:37,100 --> 03:31:40,100 thank you. Uh, commissioner fisher 1814 03:31:41,473 --> 03:31:45,760 and commissioner ray I appreciate some of this framing 1815 03:31:45,760 --> 03:31:49,414 and I'm going to ask my colleagues to help me stay 1816 03:31:49,414 --> 03:31:54,814 strategically focused to. But I think like looking at 1817 03:31:57,756 --> 03:32:01,760 slide looking at the theory of action slide I think my 1818 03:32:01,760 --> 03:32:05,163 question is just about soft hours do not come as focused 1819 03:32:05,163 --> 03:32:06,698 progress monitoring in general and what we call inputs versus 1820 03:32:06,698 --> 03:32:12,698 outputs versus outcomes. Like I so that's a question for 1821 03:32:12,971 --> 03:32:14,238 another day to make sure because my real questions 1822 03:32:14,238 --> 03:32:19,638 really are around like what we're naming as strategies 1823 03:32:20,111 --> 03:32:24,316 right because to me and I took the year long training so I'm 1824 03:32:24,316 --> 03:32:28,386 kind of geeked out on some of this but to me some of what 1825 03:32:28,386 --> 03:32:32,790 we're naming is is strategies that actually are more like 1826 03:32:32,790 --> 03:32:35,794 inputs are outputs in the student outcomes focused 1827 03:32:35,794 --> 03:32:39,394 definitions. So I'm really struggling to 1828 03:32:39,498 --> 03:32:44,200 understand the specific outcomes here and what what 1829 03:32:44,200 --> 03:32:47,539 we're actually going to be measuring and monitoring 1830 03:32:47,539 --> 03:32:48,873 and like specifically to use the data point of our 1831 03:32:48,873 --> 03:32:52,611 african-american students and how we actually saw a drop 1832 03:32:52,611 --> 03:32:59,184 yet strategically we've got each and every and we have a 1833 03:32:59,184 --> 03:33:02,620 lot of but I think to me when we say strategically we have 1834 03:33:02,620 --> 03:33:04,220 each and every that seems more like a program and an output 1835 03:33:04,220 --> 03:33:07,859 and I'm so I'm struggling to understand like what is the 1836 03:33:07,859 --> 03:33:11,696 actual strategy? Ag we've named the structural 1837 03:33:11,696 --> 03:33:15,700 racism in the past right in in our q&a document, you know, but 1838 03:33:15,700 --> 03:33:20,271 when we say things here like um, you know that we need more 1839 03:33:20,271 --> 03:33:24,342 supports in each and every and more tier and tier two 1840 03:33:24,342 --> 03:33:27,445 and tier three resources and we name that in the same question 1841 03:33:27,445 --> 03:33:30,982 the same answer like strategically what does that 1842 03:33:30,982 --> 03:33:36,854 look like like what what does a tier two and tier three 1843 03:33:36,854 --> 03:33:39,858 strategy I think and I recognize we're only in year 1844 03:33:39,858 --> 03:33:41,392 one of this adoption but I'm still struggling to understand 1845 03:33:41,392 --> 03:33:44,396 what that's going to look like and how families are going to 1846 03:33:44,396 --> 03:33:47,599 hold us accountable to doing it ,what data we're going to be 1847 03:33:47,599 --> 03:33:50,868 monitoring and where we're going to see that in our report 1848 03:33:50,868 --> 03:33:51,770 . So I don't know if that was a 1849 03:33:51,770 --> 03:33:54,473 strategic question but that's still where I'm I'm still stuck 1850 03:33:54,473 --> 03:33:57,943 noodling through all of this. >> I'm going to attempt to 1851 03:33:57,943 --> 03:34:01,546 answer it as a strategic response and if I don't then 1852 03:34:01,546 --> 03:34:06,184 please help me. I think that if you actually 1853 03:34:06,184 --> 03:34:11,838 look at the slide 15 under the plan you'll start seeing how 1854 03:34:11,838 --> 03:34:16,243 staff is thinking about what we did last year under the 1855 03:34:16,243 --> 03:34:20,113 evidence section and what we learned from last year we 1856 03:34:20,113 --> 03:34:21,314 learned that providing additional professional 1857 03:34:21,314 --> 03:34:26,114 development for our educators was yielded really positive 1858 03:34:27,587 --> 03:34:28,722 improvements. It allowed our educators to 1859 03:34:28,722 --> 03:34:31,991 feel much more confident and in delivering the curriculum 1860 03:34:31,991 --> 03:34:36,863 and what devin was alluding to which is that instructional 1861 03:34:36,863 --> 03:34:39,799 core this this kind of trifecta connection between the 1862 03:34:39,799 --> 03:34:44,204 curriculum which we all did we brought in a new curriculum 1863 03:34:44,204 --> 03:34:47,474 and the educator who's going to be implementing that 1864 03:34:47,474 --> 03:34:48,674 curriculum. So that means we have to 1865 03:34:48,674 --> 03:34:51,611 strengthen the professional development for our four 1866 03:34:51,611 --> 03:34:58,211 educators and then that third leg is as student ownership I'm 1867 03:34:58,251 --> 03:35:02,823 learning all my actions the student ownership piece where 1868 03:35:02,823 --> 03:35:07,294 we're educators when they are comfortable in delivering the 1869 03:35:07,294 --> 03:35:10,497 the the curriculum they're going to be able to push our 1870 03:35:10,497 --> 03:35:17,970 students to really engage in the learning and to own that 1871 03:35:17,303 --> 03:35:18,772 instruction and make it their own because that's when true 1872 03:35:18,772 --> 03:35:21,574 learning happens. So we we're going to try to 1873 03:35:21,574 --> 03:35:26,374 create that condition for learning moving forward through 1874 03:35:28,414 --> 03:35:32,385 more professional development. And what you're hearing from 1875 03:35:32,385 --> 03:35:33,853 the team is is not only professional development for at 1876 03:35:33,853 --> 03:35:39,853 the at the educator level but but bringing insight leaders 1877 03:35:40,259 --> 03:35:43,530 the administrators into this so that our administrators know 1878 03:35:43,530 --> 03:35:48,167 what they're looking for and seeing and ways for them to 1879 03:35:48,167 --> 03:35:52,205 support teachers when when they're walking into the 1880 03:35:52,205 --> 03:35:56,409 classroom to to observe the well the other part is is us 1881 03:35:56,409 --> 03:36:00,112 being very more more intentional in our learning 1882 03:36:00,112 --> 03:36:01,247 walks. I know we keep talking about 1883 03:36:01,247 --> 03:36:04,250 this but more intentional in our learning walks so that 1884 03:36:04,250 --> 03:36:08,421 we can then be able to collect data so that we can then use 1885 03:36:08,421 --> 03:36:11,591 that data to inform ourselves on how to move forward. 1886 03:36:11,591 --> 03:36:15,394 let me try asking a different way and I'm going to pull up my 1887 03:36:15,394 --> 03:36:19,499 notes from our board retreat and to quote a.j., there's a 1888 03:36:19,499 --> 03:36:23,636 danger in asking quote unquote is this happening in the 1889 03:36:23,636 --> 03:36:24,704 classroom? That's a question that gives a 1890 03:36:24,704 --> 03:36:27,774 false sense of security. We actually want to know that 1891 03:36:27,774 --> 03:36:31,511 we're making progress on outcomes and strategies 1892 03:36:31,511 --> 03:36:35,480 in place are effective and that we have data that shows us so 1893 03:36:35,480 --> 03:36:38,251 so I'm not seeing that for our african american students. 1894 03:36:38,251 --> 03:36:42,522 >> so that would lead so I won't make any assumptions but 1895 03:36:42,522 --> 03:36:46,525 how do we get to the point of having the data that shows us 1896 03:36:46,525 --> 03:36:50,796 the progress that progress is happening and strategies are 1897 03:36:50,796 --> 03:36:53,666 in place when it's not there right now? 1898 03:36:53,666 --> 03:36:56,802 I think that's really what I want to know. 1899 03:36:56,802 --> 03:37:01,100 can I add to that? I was thinking about something 1900 03:37:01,100 --> 03:37:02,178 that dr. Khanna used to say when she was here. 1901 03:37:02,178 --> 03:37:05,347 she used to say that like every data set has like an 1902 03:37:05,347 --> 03:37:09,352 implementing action data set and then an impact and that 1903 03:37:09,352 --> 03:37:13,156 those implementation impact kind of like shift as you go 1904 03:37:13,156 --> 03:37:14,223 along. >> so if you look at our theory 1905 03:37:14,223 --> 03:37:17,359 of action a lot of these are implementations and then 1906 03:37:17,359 --> 03:37:20,496 impacts implementation and then impacts right? 1907 03:37:20,496 --> 03:37:24,367 so if the ultimate impact is improving outcomes for 1908 03:37:24,367 --> 03:37:25,768 african-american students for all students but specifically 1909 03:37:25,768 --> 03:37:28,938 for african-american students, then we're saying that the 1910 03:37:28,938 --> 03:37:31,674 implementation data there is that teachers are going to do 1911 03:37:31,674 --> 03:37:32,775 something different in the classroom. 1912 03:37:32,775 --> 03:37:33,809 right? And it's not just doing it but 1913 03:37:33,809 --> 03:37:36,779 doing it well. And so I think in year one what 1914 03:37:36,779 --> 03:37:40,183 we were doing is let's get everybody doing it great. 1915 03:37:40,183 --> 03:37:43,685 >> we're all doing it. We're all going to try it 1916 03:37:43,685 --> 03:37:45,121 and then in year two as we go into the classroom like one of 1917 03:37:45,121 --> 03:37:50,592 the things that I think dr. Su is alluding to is when we go 1918 03:37:50,592 --> 03:37:52,600 in and we're seeing if students are not owning their they're 1919 03:37:52,600 --> 03:37:55,831 learning right and in correction three if we're not 1920 03:37:55,831 --> 03:37:59,668 seeing student ownership, why not is there an an action the 1921 03:37:59,668 --> 03:38:03,720 teacher could be taking that's different? 1922 03:38:03,720 --> 03:38:05,341 so for example, as I mentioned, I was in two classrooms this 1923 03:38:05,341 --> 03:38:08,544 this past week during a learning walk and in one of the 1924 03:38:08,544 --> 03:38:11,681 classrooms when the teacher had them all practice. 1925 03:38:11,681 --> 03:38:12,781 right. I saw that the teacher paused 1926 03:38:12,781 --> 03:38:16,285 and every single kid wrote something down on a whiteboard 1927 03:38:16,285 --> 03:38:19,154 and then the teacher counted back and then they all held up 1928 03:38:19,154 --> 03:38:22,525 their whiteboards and then the teacher did something, looked 1929 03:38:22,525 --> 03:38:24,600 around and then made a note and then asked the next 1930 03:38:24,600 --> 03:38:27,363 question where they were now working on their chromebooks to 1931 03:38:27,363 --> 03:38:31,100 per person and then they had to have it between them and enter 1932 03:38:31,100 --> 03:38:34,303 the thing and then he looked and said okay now he made a 1933 03:38:34,303 --> 03:38:35,838 1934 03:38:35,838 --> 03:38:39,750 he looked at the data that was coming up in the chromebooks 1935 03:38:39,750 --> 03:38:42,344 and then what I saw him do was pull a group of students that 1936 03:38:42,344 --> 03:38:43,178 strategic. Now is that happening 1937 03:38:43,178 --> 03:38:46,915 everywhere is the question and how do we use this learning 1938 03:38:46,915 --> 03:38:50,886 walk data to say okay, this is where we're seeing it happen, 1939 03:38:50,886 --> 03:38:52,121 this is where we need to improve and is it happening 1940 03:38:52,121 --> 03:38:54,890 specific for our focal populations and I think that 1941 03:38:54,890 --> 03:38:58,327 like I'm not going to lie to you that oh we have that all 1942 03:38:58,327 --> 03:38:59,395 down. But I think that the fact that 1943 03:38:59,395 --> 03:39:05,601 we have how many total all grades and continues yeah five 1944 03:39:05,601 --> 03:39:09,472 hundred already and it's the middle of september means that 1945 03:39:09,472 --> 03:39:13,420 will gather enough data to be able to pause and say what are 1946 03:39:13,420 --> 03:39:16,212 we noticing in particular schools and can we learn from 1947 03:39:16,212 --> 03:39:17,613 one school to the other? Can we learn from one classroom 1948 03:39:17,613 --> 03:39:19,982 to the other? Because I could see that right 1949 03:39:19,982 --> 03:39:22,751 away. So I do think it's going to be 1950 03:39:22,751 --> 03:39:24,319 a second before we can say like I mean I think that 1951 03:39:24,319 --> 03:39:27,957 commissioner wiseman brings up a good point if we can't figure 1952 03:39:27,957 --> 03:39:31,127 out why did the filipino population go up and the 1953 03:39:31,127 --> 03:39:32,595 african-american population go down, then we're just like 1954 03:39:32,595 --> 03:39:35,698 spaghetti at the wall and hope it all sticks. 1955 03:39:35,698 --> 03:39:39,435 but we're not unaware of that. So we are deep diving into it 1956 03:39:39,435 --> 03:39:42,638 but we don't know the answer to that question yet but we hope 1957 03:39:42,638 --> 03:39:43,505 to have it soon. Right. 1958 03:39:43,505 --> 03:39:46,776 because I think that like the revision of the learning walk 1959 03:39:46,776 --> 03:39:50,980 tool, the the implementation of this curriculum with fidelity, 1960 03:39:50,980 --> 03:39:54,329 the focus on our students that are not meeting our 1961 03:39:54,329 --> 03:39:55,697 expectations because we need to be doing something different 1962 03:39:55,697 --> 03:39:59,634 for them means that we have to be adjusting over time 1963 03:39:59,634 --> 03:40:02,737 and hopefully between what we're doing with administrators 1964 03:40:02,737 --> 03:40:05,674 and what we're doing with teachers we're going to see 1965 03:40:05,674 --> 03:40:07,141 some of those changes. So and I don't know if I 1966 03:40:07,141 --> 03:40:16,218 covered it or if I want to add can I just add I think that was 1967 03:40:16,218 --> 03:40:19,788 I was trying to get at my question is presumably I'm 1968 03:40:19,788 --> 03:40:23,558 assuming there are places in the district where vocal 1969 03:40:23,558 --> 03:40:27,290 students are doing well and that you so that was what I 1970 03:40:27,290 --> 03:40:28,529 was trying to get into my question of like where are they 1971 03:40:28,529 --> 03:40:30,765 doing well and what are you learning not because again it's 1972 03:40:30,765 --> 03:40:34,436 really easy for all of us to project toward the future. 1973 03:40:34,436 --> 03:40:37,239 and I think one of the lessons one of the teachings of this 1974 03:40:37,239 --> 03:40:40,242 june outcomes focus governance is to really try to stay 1975 03:40:40,242 --> 03:40:41,442 focused in the current and past practice. 1976 03:40:41,442 --> 03:40:44,579 so where are we seeing it work and what are we learning about 1977 03:40:44,579 --> 03:40:47,749 that? That's what I was trying to get 1978 03:40:47,749 --> 03:40:53,749 at that then will inform that conversation moving forward I 1979 03:40:54,656 --> 03:40:57,993 want to open up to student oh sorry were you going to share 1980 03:40:57,993 --> 03:41:01,362 something you can write? >> it's just for the student 1981 03:41:01,362 --> 03:41:02,630 delegates. Do you want to share before I 1982 03:41:02,630 --> 03:41:05,667 turn it over to commissioner ray there any things you'd like 1983 03:41:05,667 --> 03:41:07,902 to add? We're just doing great. 1984 03:41:07,902 --> 03:41:12,702 commissioner ray thanks. >> president cam what I would 1985 03:41:15,510 --> 03:41:22,884 like to ask is to what extent are we seeing any of our 1986 03:41:22,884 --> 03:41:26,484 students struggling with academic stamina endurance, 1987 03:41:27,288 --> 03:41:30,959 persistence and if this is a challenge that's impacting our 1988 03:41:30,959 --> 03:41:35,396 progress toward our student goals then what is our strategy 1989 03:41:35,396 --> 03:41:40,196 for supporting the students who need the support? 1990 03:41:41,802 --> 03:41:46,200 >> thank you, commissioner ray for the question. 1991 03:41:46,374 --> 03:41:49,711 >> I think in general the strategy that we're using to 1992 03:41:49,711 --> 03:41:53,782 support our students is one implementing a new curriculum. 1993 03:41:53,782 --> 03:41:57,252 that's a big strategy that was resourced resource rich. 1994 03:41:57,252 --> 03:42:01,723 and then and then what folks here have already alluded to is 1995 03:42:01,723 --> 03:42:06,523 making sure that we hire qualified math teachers. 1996 03:42:08,396 --> 03:42:12,900 those are both things that we did last year. 1997 03:42:12,900 --> 03:42:18,300 and then lastly as focusing in on deep professional 1998 03:42:20,875 --> 03:42:24,745 development for those students, for the teachers to to get them 1999 03:42:24,745 --> 03:42:27,745 ready to deliver the curriculum. 2000 03:42:28,750 --> 03:42:33,870 because this is going to be our second year in in implementing 2001 03:42:33,870 --> 03:42:36,757 this curriculum. It is going to be interesting 2002 03:42:36,757 --> 03:42:44,650 to to dive deeper into the data that we will see for for last 2003 03:42:44,650 --> 03:42:47,602 year where some of our students are doing really well and why 2004 03:42:47,602 --> 03:42:50,772 and where some students are struggling and why. 2005 03:42:50,772 --> 03:42:52,473 so we won't be able to answer that particular question right 2006 03:42:52,473 --> 03:42:56,440 now but it is definitely something that the team is is 2007 03:42:56,440 --> 03:43:03,244 really be curious about and we have had a lot of deep 2008 03:43:04,850 --> 03:43:08,790 conversations around but again it's just those are the big 2009 03:43:08,790 --> 03:43:12,394 strategies that we have taken on and we truly believe that 2010 03:43:12,394 --> 03:43:16,131 we're now a a curriculum in place. 2011 03:43:16,131 --> 03:43:20,100 we need to do more professional development and support our 2012 03:43:20,100 --> 03:43:23,601 educators and support our site leaders. 2013 03:43:26,808 --> 03:43:34,349 I mean I feel like I want to add a little bit to this a I 2014 03:43:34,349 --> 03:43:35,751 feel like I don't hear that very much because I think that 2015 03:43:35,751 --> 03:43:38,553 was your question do we hear that? 2016 03:43:38,553 --> 03:43:42,723 I would also say you're always going to want students to 2017 03:43:42,723 --> 03:43:46,323 persevere through anything that is difficult. 2018 03:43:46,361 --> 03:43:50,966 if you're challenging students and we've talked about that as 2019 03:43:50,966 --> 03:43:55,360 high expectations quite often if you don't have the high 2020 03:43:55,360 --> 03:43:57,673 expectations then they're obviously not going to make it 2021 03:43:57,673 --> 03:43:58,907 . So you've got to have the high 2022 03:43:58,907 --> 03:44:02,110 expectations and you have to work with kids to persevere 2023 03:44:02,110 --> 03:44:05,447 through tough times and through tough problems. 2024 03:44:05,447 --> 03:44:09,184 yes, sometimes math can be really difficult but at the 2025 03:44:09,184 --> 03:44:13,540 same time that is part of the student ownership that I feel 2026 03:44:13,540 --> 03:44:16,525 like we are looking at right. Student ownership isn't just 2027 03:44:16,525 --> 03:44:20,795 time for students to work. It is what the teacher is doing 2028 03:44:20,795 --> 03:44:24,660 when someone is struggling or when someone does feel like 2029 03:44:24,660 --> 03:44:27,969 they want to quit. I feel like I don't hear that 2030 03:44:27,969 --> 03:44:31,673 in mass right from your question but at the same time 2031 03:44:31,673 --> 03:44:34,943 it does happen in classes and the ability of a teacher to 2032 03:44:34,943 --> 03:44:39,347 work with students give them some help and not give them the 2033 03:44:39,347 --> 03:44:43,685 answer and have them persevere even if at times they're wrong. 2034 03:44:43,685 --> 03:44:48,256 but will but give them the you know, the encouragement that 2035 03:44:48,256 --> 03:44:51,692 you actually have to work hard too often in math. 2036 03:44:51,692 --> 03:44:54,729 >> like we get excited when they get the right answer. 2037 03:44:54,729 --> 03:44:57,899 the truth of the matter is is that if students are 2038 03:44:57,899 --> 03:44:59,301 persevering through something that's really hard even if they 2039 03:44:59,301 --> 03:45:02,237 get it wrong right. Those are some of the skills 2040 03:45:02,237 --> 03:45:06,140 that we want to really lift up in our students and make sure 2041 03:45:06,140 --> 03:45:09,244 that they see that in themselves because we know 2042 03:45:09,244 --> 03:45:10,645 life is going to be hard in a lot of different ways. 2043 03:45:10,645 --> 03:45:15,584 >> and so persevering is a part of student ownership that I 2044 03:45:15,584 --> 03:45:20,550 feel like we're always going to push and at the same time I 2045 03:45:20,550 --> 03:45:21,560 don't think you hear it writ large. 2046 03:45:21,560 --> 03:45:24,225 you just see it from time to time. 2047 03:45:24,225 --> 03:45:25,594 it has been my experience I don't know if people have 2048 03:45:25,594 --> 03:45:29,230 different thoughts about this. I was just going to build on 2049 03:45:29,230 --> 03:45:31,630 that. If I may. 2050 03:45:31,933 --> 03:45:35,770 I wanted to actually pull a quote from our calibration 2051 03:45:35,770 --> 03:45:39,384 guidance as part of our math learning walk tool which does 2052 03:45:39,384 --> 03:45:42,954 have a specific indicator related somewhat to this 2053 03:45:42,954 --> 03:45:46,240 question but to build on deputy superintendent davis point 2054 03:45:46,240 --> 03:45:50,161 which is the idea that students actively engage in productive 2055 03:45:50,161 --> 03:45:53,564 struggle by using strategies to persevere when faced with 2056 03:45:53,564 --> 03:45:54,698 solving challenging mathematical problems 2057 03:45:54,698 --> 03:45:58,536 strategies to persevere such as but not limited to writing 2058 03:45:58,536 --> 03:46:01,973 and speaking questioning, rereading, revising strategies 2059 03:46:01,973 --> 03:46:06,440 using representations and or discussing their thinking. 2060 03:46:06,440 --> 03:46:09,513 >> all of those moves are supported by teacher practice. 2061 03:46:09,513 --> 03:46:14,152 so where we see perhaps those things not coming in the 2062 03:46:14,152 --> 03:46:17,321 classroom is a question of the quality of teacher practice to 2063 03:46:17,321 --> 03:46:20,792 what degree when a student is struggling is that teacher 2064 03:46:20,792 --> 03:46:22,930 entering into that small group or that pair and asking probing 2065 03:46:22,930 --> 03:46:25,864 questions is suggesting the use of different representations 2066 03:46:25,864 --> 03:46:29,533 and where we see a lack of that particularly in classrooms with 2067 03:46:29,533 --> 03:46:32,837 high percentages of vocal students is due to educator 2068 03:46:32,837 --> 03:46:37,274 mindset and potentially a lack of belief in rigor or high 2069 03:46:37,274 --> 03:46:41,312 expectations for that students. >> so for us the push is 2070 03:46:41,312 --> 03:46:45,490 actually around both the mindset shift for the teacher 2071 03:46:45,490 --> 03:46:48,319 but also the pedagogical strategies of questioning 2072 03:46:48,319 --> 03:46:52,690 and probing as opposed to just answering or focusing on 2073 03:46:52,690 --> 03:46:56,894 solution. If I can add real quickly and I 2074 03:46:56,894 --> 03:47:00,764 think that's why it's been brought up several times about 2075 03:47:00,764 --> 03:47:03,867 the learning walks and how excited we are because part of 2076 03:47:03,867 --> 03:47:05,302 this is really thinking about that instructional core that 2077 03:47:05,302 --> 03:47:08,373 dr. Sue alluded to earlier and the fact that those core 2078 03:47:08,373 --> 03:47:11,975 actions two and three really kind of get at what the 2079 03:47:11,975 --> 03:47:15,946 teachers are doing in relation to fostering those practices 2080 03:47:15,946 --> 03:47:19,317 that we want to see kind of displayed in our students that 2081 03:47:19,317 --> 03:47:20,784 same perseverance the way to grapple with the mathematics 2082 03:47:20,784 --> 03:47:26,991 and the and the you know basically having the you know, 2083 03:47:26,991 --> 03:47:31,229 the the understanding that it's okay to to grapple with the 2084 03:47:31,229 --> 03:47:34,331 mathematics, not necessarily get it right but then learn 2085 03:47:34,331 --> 03:47:35,600 from that process. And I think that's all part of 2086 03:47:35,600 --> 03:47:39,136 that perseverance piece. And so you know to the points 2087 03:47:39,136 --> 03:47:42,406 that that john and devin have made our excitement in this is 2088 03:47:42,406 --> 03:47:46,276 really because we are in that second year of our curriculum. 2089 03:47:46,276 --> 03:47:49,179 we are now really trying to hone in on kind of like the 2090 03:47:49,179 --> 03:47:52,516 pieces that dig deeper under the hood of like teacher 2091 03:47:52,516 --> 03:47:53,818 practice and curriculum how those pieces map together 2092 03:47:53,818 --> 03:47:57,421 and how they manifest themselves in the classroom so 2093 03:47:57,421 --> 03:48:00,825 that students are in the position to do the kind of 2094 03:48:00,825 --> 03:48:02,194 success that we're having hoping that they'll be able to 2095 03:48:02,194 --> 03:48:04,194 do. Thank you. 2096 03:48:08,298 --> 03:48:12,370 I will I'll wait before anyone else anything else. 2097 03:48:12,370 --> 03:48:14,770 >> thank you. Thank you. 2098 03:48:15,239 --> 03:48:19,844 um, and I agree I mean how much more do we learn from our 2099 03:48:19,844 --> 03:48:20,811 failure so we learn from our successes? 2100 03:48:20,811 --> 03:48:23,647 well, I'll speak for myself. >> I was going to say no 2101 03:48:23,647 --> 03:48:29,647 comment, please. On that one but I will say that 2102 03:48:29,673 --> 03:48:33,510 I think we are all really excited to see some of the the 2103 03:48:33,510 --> 03:48:37,480 school our social emotional learning survey results from 2104 03:48:37,480 --> 03:48:41,840 students as well as learning look results this year because 2105 03:48:41,840 --> 03:48:45,989 we are asking and looking for students who talk about I was 2106 03:48:45,989 --> 03:48:49,826 able to to to work through my struggles because we really 2107 03:48:49,826 --> 03:48:55,226 believe how important that is. We really believe that 2108 03:48:56,232 --> 03:48:57,333 struggling through instructional like the 2109 03:48:57,333 --> 03:48:59,733 instructional challenge is important. 2110 03:49:00,503 --> 03:49:03,974 so so it's going to it hopefully will be able to yield 2111 03:49:03,974 --> 03:49:08,211 some more insights for us at the next progress monitoring 2112 03:49:08,211 --> 03:49:11,581 meeting so we can share with you what students are really 2113 03:49:11,581 --> 03:49:15,452 sharing with us and like what john is saying, we're not 2114 03:49:15,452 --> 03:49:18,921 hearing a lot of of this type of feedback but we'll see from 2115 03:49:18,921 --> 03:49:27,921 the survey um if we can go to slide five or I guess we don't 2116 03:49:31,734 --> 03:49:39,534 need to project it but um my question so we know that yeah 2117 03:49:39,976 --> 03:49:43,880 you know I guess it takes anywhere from 1 to 3 years for 2118 03:49:43,880 --> 03:49:47,951 things like curriculum implementation to actually take 2119 03:49:47,951 --> 03:49:49,119 off. I like to call it the steeping 2120 03:49:49,119 --> 03:49:55,119 years like tea and so when we're looking at 45% in 2026 2121 03:49:57,894 --> 03:50:04,301 for grade eight I'm trying to go back to three four years 2122 03:50:04,301 --> 03:50:11,408 and ask ourselves were there things that we did that that we 2123 03:50:11,408 --> 03:50:15,112 believe have contributed to what we are now experiencing 2124 03:50:15,112 --> 03:50:19,115 around gains? Um, and and as I was kind of 2125 03:50:19,115 --> 03:50:22,919 trying to formulate this question in my head I couldn't 2126 03:50:22,919 --> 03:50:27,570 help but wonder. So then 45% is still 5% below 2127 03:50:27,570 --> 03:50:31,494 the 2019 goal that kind of level that we were at 50% 2128 03:50:31,494 --> 03:50:35,432 and there's this gap in the middle of covid. 2129 03:50:35,432 --> 03:50:39,736 so related to that question would be how do we know that 2130 03:50:39,736 --> 03:50:42,339 the gains that we're experiencing now are just not a 2131 03:50:42,339 --> 03:50:43,539 recalibration back to our pre-covid days? 2132 03:50:43,539 --> 03:50:46,743 how do we know that the strategies that we're deploying 2133 03:50:46,743 --> 03:50:50,146 today are actually the ones that are contributing to the 2134 03:50:50,146 --> 03:50:51,547 gains that we're experiencing now I guess would be my 2135 03:50:51,547 --> 03:50:54,547 question. That's a great question. 2136 03:50:56,119 --> 03:51:01,910 I mean it truly is it's a great question and I think again 2137 03:51:01,910 --> 03:51:04,828 something that we were also grappling with because if you 2138 03:51:04,828 --> 03:51:09,232 look at and think of 2020 which would be where all the fifth 2139 03:51:09,232 --> 03:51:13,700 graders were in 2020 and in 2021 they'll be sixth grade 2140 03:51:13,700 --> 03:51:16,506 in 2022 they'll be seventh grade and then 2023 when we 2141 03:51:16,506 --> 03:51:20,430 started doing this at fourth grade eighth grade and you can 2142 03:51:20,430 --> 03:51:23,719 see the struggle and you can see them continuing these these 2143 03:51:23,719 --> 03:51:29,192 groups of students continue to struggle and by 2026 this is 2144 03:51:29,192 --> 03:51:34,731 where our first group of fourth graders force third, third or 2145 03:51:34,731 --> 03:51:38,935 fourth graders. So there there is perhaps it 2146 03:51:38,935 --> 03:51:42,338 could be a rebound. >> it could also be our 2147 03:51:42,338 --> 03:51:46,609 strategic investment in the curriculum and in doubling down 2148 03:51:46,609 --> 03:51:50,947 on professional development. But we have to we'll have to go 2149 03:51:50,947 --> 03:51:53,816 back into the data and comb through and dive through 2150 03:51:53,816 --> 03:51:54,851 and look and and understand that. 2151 03:51:54,851 --> 03:51:58,689 but I think you're raising a very, very important question 2152 03:51:58,689 --> 03:52:02,458 for us is this just the amazingness of our students 2153 03:52:02,458 --> 03:52:06,163 being able to quote unquote rebound and we're rebounding 2154 03:52:06,163 --> 03:52:09,866 from the learning loss of the pandemic or is it a combination 2155 03:52:09,866 --> 03:52:14,104 of that plus a new curriculum plus intentional focused 2156 03:52:14,104 --> 03:52:18,304 professional development that we're putting into educators? 2157 03:52:21,377 --> 03:52:22,645 I'm sure the team has some thoughts on this. 2158 03:52:22,645 --> 03:52:28,852 would you like to share? >> I think the only thing that 2159 03:52:28,852 --> 03:52:34,252 I can say is that time will tell right? 2160 03:52:34,858 --> 03:52:38,194 so assuming that the pre-covid baseline is about 50%, I think 2161 03:52:38,194 --> 03:52:41,798 the question is will we not only reach back to that level 2162 03:52:41,798 --> 03:52:45,134 but sort of pass it right and by how much? 2163 03:52:45,134 --> 03:52:46,803 >> I think the other questions that I'm curious about for the 2164 03:52:46,803 --> 03:52:51,603 next 2 to 3 years as the curriculum implementation as 2165 03:52:52,740 --> 03:52:59,874 fully implemented and we get to see the full impact of that are 2166 03:52:59,883 --> 03:53:01,151 there are there things that we have learned from other 2167 03:53:01,151 --> 03:53:06,551 districts during that same period that we're taking away 2168 03:53:08,357 --> 03:53:14,357 as part of our own learning and understanding for context? 2169 03:53:19,436 --> 03:53:23,305 I mean I just you know, stopping short of saying covid 2170 03:53:23,305 --> 03:53:24,707 kind of impacted everyone and so we saw the declines 2171 03:53:24,707 --> 03:53:27,576 there. But I mean I guess my question 2172 03:53:27,576 --> 03:53:34,776 would be from a from a long range perspective of the data 2173 03:53:34,951 --> 03:53:38,120 that we're seeing in front of us, right. 2174 03:53:38,120 --> 03:53:42,258 if every district is kind of having this experience where 2175 03:53:42,258 --> 03:53:45,361 they're having a significant dip of learning loss during 2176 03:53:45,361 --> 03:53:46,663 covid and then kind of a gradual increase afterwards, 2177 03:53:46,663 --> 03:53:49,665 that's actually quite illuminating in terms of kind 2178 03:53:49,665 --> 03:53:53,669 of our own performance as a district. 2179 03:53:53,669 --> 03:53:55,337 and what then I would again I the thing I'm trying to figure 2180 03:53:55,337 --> 03:54:01,770 out here is what makes the moves that we are doing either 2181 03:54:01,770 --> 03:54:02,411 different or the same that we can draw conclusions 2182 03:54:02,411 --> 03:54:05,982 potentially around around the effectiveness of the strategies 2183 03:54:05,982 --> 03:54:09,119 and how maybe how we're deploying it or what we're 2184 03:54:09,119 --> 03:54:13,322 deploying and and does that tell us anything about our 2185 03:54:13,322 --> 03:54:16,876 outcomes? I mean I think we could all 2186 03:54:16,876 --> 03:54:20,313 agree that across school districts in the nation there 2187 03:54:20,313 --> 03:54:21,748 was some incomplete learning during the covid years. 2188 03:54:21,748 --> 03:54:25,118 so we need that. That's a a statement we can all 2189 03:54:25,118 --> 03:54:27,520 agree on. I think that's something that 2190 03:54:27,520 --> 03:54:29,155 we had a discussion was last week or the week before when we 2191 03:54:29,155 --> 03:54:32,240 were talking about this progress monitoring report 2192 03:54:32,240 --> 03:54:35,261 around where are the the schools that we're really 2193 03:54:35,261 --> 03:54:36,863 seeing improve and can we learn something from those particular 2194 03:54:36,863 --> 03:54:39,131 schools? Are there structures that we 2195 03:54:39,131 --> 03:54:42,735 can compare the things that are happening and you know, while 2196 03:54:42,735 --> 03:54:47,730 this is the second year of this curriculum, there were many, 2197 03:54:47,730 --> 03:54:51,277 many teachers that piloted in you know, the better year or 2198 03:54:51,277 --> 03:54:54,414 whatever you want to call it the pilot year. 2199 03:54:54,414 --> 03:54:55,548 and so there weren't schools that adopted. 2200 03:54:55,548 --> 03:54:56,582 we didn't do whole school adoption. 2201 03:54:56,582 --> 03:54:59,619 we did like if you want to do it you do it. 2202 03:54:59,619 --> 03:55:02,354 but what we noticed is that there were particular schools 2203 03:55:02,354 --> 03:55:03,589 that completely took it up and then those schools where 2204 03:55:03,589 --> 03:55:06,926 there is strong common planning time during an assigned time 2205 03:55:06,926 --> 03:55:10,363 right during their their extra during their non-teaching 2206 03:55:10,363 --> 03:55:13,963 period that is not their practice. 2207 03:55:14,300 --> 03:55:17,570 I'm just explain that to everyone here without making 2208 03:55:17,570 --> 03:55:21,410 sure we all understand what that is so where that was 2209 03:55:21,410 --> 03:55:24,910 really clear where the leader was very involved, where there 2210 03:55:24,910 --> 03:55:29,949 was implementation with integrity then we did see that 2211 03:55:29,949 --> 03:55:31,918 those schools improved more so that was one of the things 2212 03:55:31,918 --> 03:55:33,352 actually one of the ideas that we had for tonight was to bring 2213 03:55:33,352 --> 03:55:37,323 some of those folks here and I failed miserably in getting 2214 03:55:37,323 --> 03:55:40,660 them here because I just fell off the plate. 2215 03:55:40,660 --> 03:55:42,161 but next time I promise we're going to bring them here to 2216 03:55:42,161 --> 03:55:44,931 talk about their own experiences, the teachers 2217 03:55:44,931 --> 03:55:46,399 experiences and the leaders experiences because we do think 2218 03:55:46,399 --> 03:55:49,202 that that will flesh out some of what you're saying. 2219 03:55:49,202 --> 03:55:52,400 but I think that's like two moonwalks point of time will 2220 03:55:52,400 --> 03:55:53,807 tell. It's a good question right? 2221 03:55:53,807 --> 03:55:57,811 in 2020 the current first graders the first graders 2222 03:55:57,811 --> 03:55:58,712 in 2020 are now seventh graders. 2223 03:55:58,712 --> 03:56:03,512 so like what did they miss in 2020 and 2021? 2224 03:56:04,150 --> 03:56:07,487 >> how are we trying to accelerate that learning in 20 2225 03:56:07,487 --> 03:56:11,824 2223 now that we're coming back, will we see a shift 2226 03:56:11,824 --> 03:56:13,293 because we're implementing this curriculum with fidelity 2227 03:56:13,293 --> 03:56:16,295 and really paying attention to to focal populations and to the 2228 03:56:16,295 --> 03:56:19,999 interplay between curriculum teacher teacher and student 2229 03:56:19,999 --> 03:56:24,370 action which I think that like to be clear I mean I can recall 2230 03:56:24,370 --> 03:56:28,107 a time where we were going into classrooms and paying attention 2231 03:56:28,107 --> 03:56:31,177 to what the students were doing with our core rubric which was 2232 03:56:31,177 --> 03:56:32,578 really important because we had finally adopted something that 2233 03:56:32,578 --> 03:56:35,815 was universally used in our school district to examine 2234 03:56:35,815 --> 03:56:39,452 practice but we weren't always identifying thing and what's 2235 03:56:39,452 --> 03:56:40,586 the teacher doing to make that happen? 2236 03:56:40,586 --> 03:56:43,189 and I do think that we've shifted that. 2237 03:56:43,189 --> 03:56:46,725 I mean the work that devin and the team did on coming up 2238 03:56:46,725 --> 03:56:49,596 with this learning walk tool to say what's the interplay of 2239 03:56:49,596 --> 03:56:50,764 those three things I think will make a difference. 2240 03:56:50,764 --> 03:56:54,600 so your point is it happening in other districts and do we 2241 03:56:54,600 --> 03:56:55,735 have to look, I think we could do that. 2242 03:56:55,735 --> 03:56:58,805 we can we can see if it's going to be similar because I think I 2243 03:56:58,805 --> 03:57:04,805 mean just to you know, acknowledge I mean it's been 2244 03:57:05,110 --> 03:57:06,150 happening for ever in our district. 2245 03:57:06,150 --> 03:57:09,987 I think the question would be to the content of our pd change 2246 03:57:09,987 --> 03:57:14,910 set over those over that tim right because that will that 2247 03:57:14,910 --> 03:57:16,493 can help to illuminate a little bit around the strategies of 2248 03:57:16,493 --> 03:57:20,693 it. I think there actually has been 2249 03:57:20,864 --> 03:57:25,202 some significant changes so I would just say so for example 2250 03:57:25,202 --> 03:57:32,402 last year 2526 was the first year that we had done a full 2251 03:57:34,644 --> 03:57:38,844 really full professional development release days for 2252 03:57:39,315 --> 03:57:42,352 middle school math teachers since I joined the district 2253 03:57:42,352 --> 03:57:45,956 in 2019. So that hadn't happened in many 2254 03:57:45,956 --> 03:57:47,123 years. So we had been pulling teachers 2255 03:57:47,123 --> 03:57:50,359 centrally. We hadn't been doing curriculum 2256 03:57:50,359 --> 03:57:53,530 aligned professional learning since I joined the district 2257 03:57:53,530 --> 03:57:56,766 in 2019. So there actually have been 2258 03:57:56,766 --> 03:58:00,871 significant shifts in just the the the content, the style, the 2259 03:58:00,871 --> 03:58:02,338 structure, the strategy associated with just and that's 2260 03:58:02,338 --> 03:58:05,509 just professional learning aside from any of the other 2261 03:58:05,509 --> 03:58:09,145 components and a lot of that I would say is you know we spoke 2262 03:58:09,145 --> 03:58:12,148 to earlier the shifts in staffing and professional 2263 03:58:12,148 --> 03:58:13,283 learning. So there have been I would say 2264 03:58:13,283 --> 03:58:18,683 pretty big structural shifts and a reintroduction of certain 2265 03:58:19,723 --> 03:58:20,957 professional learning strategies that had been absent 2266 03:58:20,957 --> 03:58:24,327 for many years prior. And I'll just add one more 2267 03:58:24,327 --> 03:58:27,330 thing which is that we were trying to get early release to 2268 03:58:27,330 --> 03:58:30,733 happen for the school districts so that everyone was early 2269 03:58:30,733 --> 03:58:33,403 released on wednesday when covid happened that was like 2270 03:58:33,403 --> 03:58:35,105 the first year we got it into place and then we didn't have 2271 03:58:35,105 --> 03:58:38,175 the opportunity in those years to put into play the align 2272 03:58:38,175 --> 03:58:41,177 release that's curriculum and instruction has have done 2273 03:58:41,177 --> 03:58:45,248 with the minimally with the elementary schools right so now 2274 03:58:45,248 --> 03:58:46,649 all of the elementary schools get early align release 2275 03:58:46,649 --> 03:58:50,454 and they get curriculum that is done that the coaches get 2276 03:58:50,454 --> 03:58:53,457 trained and the coaches do that that those professional 2277 03:58:53,457 --> 03:58:56,592 developments with their staff year one was literacy or two 2278 03:58:56,592 --> 03:58:59,762 was math. Now we're back to literacy with 2279 03:58:59,762 --> 03:59:01,130 an option to do math on another day of the week. 2280 03:59:01,130 --> 03:59:04,201 and so I do think that like that was significant. 2281 03:59:04,201 --> 03:59:08,138 I mean I have this like memory of trying to organize across 2282 03:59:08,138 --> 03:59:11,407 many things to have early, early release happen across the 2283 03:59:11,407 --> 03:59:15,700 district. But then like what happens 2284 03:59:15,212 --> 03:59:16,513 during early release was really vague until recently. 2285 03:59:16,513 --> 03:59:19,382 so I think that that is also different. 2286 03:59:19,382 --> 03:59:23,419 >> thank you super delegates for your time here tonight. 2287 03:59:23,419 --> 03:59:25,154 appreciate you and happy school year. 2288 03:59:25,154 --> 03:59:31,754 um my last question slide eight thesere our we're looking at 2289 03:59:35,632 --> 03:59:42,710 supe star math for all star math winter then spring is back 2290 03:59:42,710 --> 03:59:46,375 for our interim goals where I guess my question would be if 2291 03:59:46,375 --> 03:59:50,780 we know that and I might be stepping in a pilot do do 2292 03:59:50,780 --> 03:59:54,500 because my question maybe just wrong so just correct me if I'm 2293 03:59:54,500 --> 04:00:00,704 wrong here we think you we see the increase from fall to 2294 04:00:00,704 --> 04:00:05,810 spring final aspect scores how much of what evidence do we 2295 04:00:05,810 --> 04:00:11,749 have that our interims and I know this is within a year but 2296 04:00:11,749 --> 04:00:13,284 what evidence do we have that our interims are actually 2297 04:00:13,284 --> 04:00:18,840 predictive of overall aspect performance relative to just 2298 04:00:19,957 --> 04:00:23,494 fall to spring growth that we see typically in a year? 2299 04:00:23,494 --> 04:00:27,765 it's based on the the pearson correlation studies that come 2300 04:00:27,765 --> 04:00:29,330 out of that. So that was part of the reason 2301 04:00:29,330 --> 04:00:35,239 why we ended up switching to an interim assessment measure that 2302 04:00:35,239 --> 04:00:38,843 was predictive of the back was so that we had that high level 2303 04:00:38,843 --> 04:00:42,680 of predictability such that within the year we had a sense 2304 04:00:42,680 --> 04:00:47,480 of where students were relative to that progress. 2305 04:00:49,787 --> 04:00:51,188 but we now have students who've taken them both, right? 2306 04:00:51,188 --> 04:00:55,259 so is it your are you asking about like do we have evidence 2307 04:00:55,259 --> 04:00:57,962 that it's predictive for our correct? 2308 04:00:57,962 --> 04:01:02,100 does that make sense? >> I think that's what he was 2309 04:01:02,100 --> 04:01:02,666 asking. Yes. 2310 04:01:02,666 --> 04:01:04,135 we've actually done the correlation studies ourselves 2311 04:01:04,135 --> 04:01:05,603 internally. Yes. 2312 04:01:05,603 --> 04:01:06,337 oh, okay. I'm sorry. 2313 04:01:06,337 --> 04:01:07,472 I'm sorry. From our internal review. 2314 04:01:07,472 --> 04:01:08,500 yes. Yes. 2315 04:01:08,500 --> 04:01:10,700 so we've we as a as a as a first pass at the selection of 2316 04:01:10,700 --> 04:01:13,811 it, we had we obviously hadn't done that with our own students 2317 04:01:13,811 --> 04:01:16,280 to do correlation studies. But as we've gone along each 2318 04:01:16,280 --> 04:01:19,750 year one of the things that we do in practice is just to 2319 04:01:19,750 --> 04:01:20,985 confirm that our correlations are still mapping up. 2320 04:01:20,985 --> 04:01:24,723 now we look at it more at the more granular continuous scale 2321 04:01:24,723 --> 04:01:31,323 level which is at the scale score versus the more binary 2322 04:01:31,328 --> 04:01:32,596 proficient not proficient because you have more 2323 04:01:32,596 --> 04:01:36,867 predictability in that way. So sometimes because of the 2324 04:01:36,867 --> 04:01:40,304 ways that things map on it's not exact like correlation when 2325 04:01:40,304 --> 04:01:43,373 it comes to looking at the proficient versus not 2326 04:01:43,373 --> 04:01:44,842 proficient but on the scale score level it is highly 2327 04:01:44,842 --> 04:01:47,242 correlated correlated. >> thank you. 2328 04:01:48,112 --> 04:01:54,786 well I'm sorry and due to that high correlation the the plan 2329 04:01:54,786 --> 04:01:59,456 is to look at the winter star results and then make make 2330 04:01:59,456 --> 04:02:03,994 determinations at that time whether you know how our 2331 04:02:03,994 --> 04:02:10,234 students are doing and perhaps we would have to increase our 2332 04:02:10,234 --> 04:02:14,434 instructional coaching in certain schools or for 2333 04:02:14,671 --> 04:02:18,876 certain populations or do additional peds in certain 2334 04:02:18,876 --> 04:02:21,876 classrooms and for certain schools. 2335 04:02:23,470 --> 04:02:26,884 so I think we're going to use that data to inform how we can 2336 04:02:26,884 --> 04:02:30,554 pivot and I know this is something that the board has 2337 04:02:30,554 --> 04:02:34,392 asked all the time of just great you have all this data, 2338 04:02:34,392 --> 04:02:35,526 what are you going to do with it? 2339 04:02:35,526 --> 04:02:39,163 and so hopefully when we come back at the next progress 2340 04:02:39,163 --> 04:02:42,600 monitoring report we'll be able to share what the data is 2341 04:02:42,600 --> 04:02:46,360 showing us and what we have done to pivot to continue to 2342 04:02:46,360 --> 04:02:49,636 push the instructional core. All right. 2343 04:02:52,979 --> 04:02:57,450 so to build on actually what president kim was asking, you 2344 04:02:57,450 --> 04:03:03,450 know, for goal 2.1, the corollary is if say, you know, 2345 04:03:03,522 --> 04:03:07,460 we have a bounce back of four points for general population 2346 04:03:07,460 --> 04:03:11,530 um if say hypothetically if that's due to were post-covid 2347 04:03:11,530 --> 04:03:15,601 the resilience of our students as we discussed we're still 2348 04:03:15,601 --> 04:03:19,638 seeing it has gone down for african-american students so 2349 04:03:19,638 --> 04:03:23,675 similarly I'd be interested in what what does that data 2350 04:03:23,675 --> 04:03:26,675 show in other school districts ? 2351 04:03:27,790 --> 04:03:28,747 has that similarly gone down? If so, what might be some of 2352 04:03:28,747 --> 04:03:32,151 those reasons? So I would ask just as you look 2353 04:03:32,151 --> 04:03:35,888 at other potential district data, if you see the same 2354 04:03:35,888 --> 04:03:37,888 district. Yes. 2355 04:03:38,623 --> 04:03:43,950 thank you. So related to that then you 2356 04:03:43,950 --> 04:03:44,563 know there's there seem to be two strategies in the 2357 04:03:44,563 --> 04:03:46,899 commissioner a request for information for in term goal 2358 04:03:46,899 --> 04:03:50,703 2.1 it says in the sixth grade each and every initiative is 2359 04:03:50,703 --> 04:03:53,772 being planned to mirror the successful kindergarten model 2360 04:03:53,772 --> 04:03:57,175 for interim goal 1.1. And as I just to elucidate that 2361 04:03:57,175 --> 04:04:04,375 seems to refer to start early literacy for ap where we say 2362 04:04:04,516 --> 04:04:05,985 where we saw a 1% point increase from spring to spring. 2363 04:04:05,985 --> 04:04:12,585 is that correct? So so so in in the request for 2364 04:04:12,725 --> 04:04:16,462 information it it says that there is a plan to create 2365 04:04:16,462 --> 04:04:22,335 in each and every initiative for sixth grade that mirrors 2366 04:04:22,335 --> 04:04:26,938 interim goal 1.1 and I'm assuming that refers to the 2367 04:04:26,938 --> 04:04:30,142 increase of one percentage point that we saw for in term 2368 04:04:30,142 --> 04:04:35,480 goal 1.1 related to api early literacy on the start exam, 2369 04:04:35,480 --> 04:04:37,480 correct? >> yes. 2370 04:04:38,550 --> 04:04:39,985 it's because we're seeing that the each and every by name 2371 04:04:39,985 --> 04:04:44,785 strategy is working to support our african-american students 2372 04:04:46,292 --> 04:04:50,696 in achieving the in year growth four for literacy and we 2373 04:04:50,696 --> 04:04:56,680 believe that if we deploy the same strategy for our sixth 2374 04:04:56,680 --> 04:04:59,972 graders we will be able to then build that within year growth 2375 04:04:59,972 --> 04:05:02,372 for math. Got it. 2376 04:05:02,775 --> 04:05:06,450 so so that is the strategy. So there are two strategies 2377 04:05:06,450 --> 04:05:09,781 then that I'm hearing. The first is implementing into 2378 04:05:09,781 --> 04:05:15,788 you each and every four six grade math and then the other 2379 04:05:15,788 --> 04:05:19,758 one that I think I've heard the panel talk about is more around 2380 04:05:19,758 --> 04:05:24,558 the instructional guidance learning walks is across all 2381 04:05:25,797 --> 04:05:26,732 schools. Is that correct or that's 2382 04:05:26,732 --> 04:05:30,932 that's sort of the the strategy set? 2383 04:05:33,172 --> 04:05:37,476 that's correct, I think yes. So for sixth graders we're 2384 04:05:37,476 --> 04:05:40,946 talking about expanding on the each and every by name for our 2385 04:05:40,946 --> 04:05:45,610 sixth grade african-american students for 2.2 we're talking 2386 04:05:45,610 --> 04:05:48,661 about increasing professional development for our 2387 04:05:49,133 --> 04:05:54,533 administrators and having a more refined learning walk tool 2388 04:05:57,174 --> 04:06:00,945 and having more learning walks and devin can speak more about 2389 04:06:00,945 --> 04:06:02,245 the learning walk. >> yes, I was also going to 2390 04:06:02,245 --> 04:06:05,316 build on that and then I couldn't remember which slide 2391 04:06:05,316 --> 04:06:09,219 to go back to but additionally I want to return to the lab 2392 04:06:09,219 --> 04:06:13,257 schools that are receiving intensive support from t and b 2393 04:06:13,257 --> 04:06:17,610 so all of those schools were strategically selected as they 2394 04:06:17,610 --> 04:06:20,965 have high percentages of vocal student population. 2395 04:06:20,965 --> 04:06:24,468 so those schools are receiving intensified support 2396 04:06:24,468 --> 04:06:25,603 in strategies such as instructional leadership 2397 04:06:25,603 --> 04:06:29,730 support for common planning time, the design of their math 2398 04:06:29,730 --> 04:06:33,873 lab courses or coaching for individual math teachers. 2399 04:06:35,679 --> 04:06:40,350 so essentially you know what we want to build on is how we can 2400 04:06:40,350 --> 04:06:43,821 improve the quality of instruction and the high 2401 04:06:43,821 --> 04:06:45,155 expectations that educators have for vocal students at 2402 04:06:45,155 --> 04:06:50,494 those lab sites in order to shift student proficiency rates 2403 04:06:50,494 --> 04:06:51,562 . So we will not only just be 2404 04:06:51,562 --> 04:06:55,632 tracking student outcome growth very closely at those school 2405 04:06:55,632 --> 04:06:59,370 sites, but our hope is truly by the nature of, you know, lab 2406 04:06:59,370 --> 04:07:02,840 schools is to best understand like which practices are really 2407 04:07:02,840 --> 04:07:06,610 working that we might want to codify and scale across the 2408 04:07:06,610 --> 04:07:09,610 system that that's really helpful. 2409 04:07:10,647 --> 04:07:12,820 I was actually I was wondering if the learning walks were 2410 04:07:12,820 --> 04:07:15,753 specifically designed for that. I think in the past we've been 2411 04:07:15,753 --> 04:07:19,353 presented information where 30% of our african-american 2412 04:07:19,457 --> 04:07:22,927 population is within six schools and so forth. 2413 04:07:22,927 --> 04:07:25,963 >> so I wasn't sure if those were across our entire 2414 04:07:25,963 --> 04:07:30,134 portfolio or specifically geared and what I'm hearing you 2415 04:07:30,134 --> 04:07:34,400 say is that it correct me if I'm wrong it's across all 2416 04:07:34,400 --> 04:07:37,475 schools but we also then have labs that are specifically 2417 04:07:37,475 --> 04:07:40,744 focused on focal pipe where where we have focal 2418 04:07:40,744 --> 04:07:42,179 populations. Okay. 2419 04:07:42,179 --> 04:07:46,979 thanks. To follow up on the lab school 2420 04:07:51,155 --> 04:07:55,355 strategy, are there any additional financial or 2421 04:07:57,561 --> 04:08:01,332 staffing resources that are going to be deployed at those 2422 04:08:01,332 --> 04:08:05,903 school sites as opposed to supports coming from central 2423 04:08:05,903 --> 04:08:10,103 office? >> I can talk about one piece 2424 04:08:15,379 --> 04:08:19,983 just to name the central office component and then I will defer 2425 04:08:19,983 --> 04:08:23,120 for the additional resources portion of the question. 2426 04:08:23,120 --> 04:08:26,623 but one of the things that I want to just sort of zero in on 2427 04:08:26,623 --> 04:08:30,461 in the labs in the lab structures and intensified 2428 04:08:30,461 --> 04:08:35,219 support is part of our goal is to increase the capacity of 2429 04:08:35,219 --> 04:08:39,423 educators at the school site. So ultimately we know that when 2430 04:08:39,423 --> 04:08:42,426 we can grow the quality of teaching practice 2431 04:08:42,426 --> 04:08:45,426 and professionally develop administrators, instructional 2432 04:08:45,830 --> 04:08:49,567 coaches and then support them to develop strong systems that 2433 04:08:49,567 --> 04:08:50,834 not just support their professional growth but 2434 04:08:50,834 --> 04:08:54,105 actually support their retention at the school site so 2435 04:08:54,105 --> 04:09:00,705 that we can build a really stable teaching staff over time 2436 04:09:01,780 --> 04:09:02,413 we hope that will lead to the growth of instructional 2437 04:09:02,413 --> 04:09:04,715 quality. So I just want to name that 2438 04:09:04,715 --> 04:09:06,183 like part of our goal here is not just sort of like the 2439 04:09:06,183 --> 04:09:09,620 deployment of resources that then come and go but actually 2440 04:09:09,620 --> 04:09:12,856 building the systems and structures that will grow 2441 04:09:12,856 --> 04:09:17,194 and retain staff at the school site and vice president feeling 2442 04:09:17,194 --> 04:09:20,764 that is a tactical question. So I would encourage you or 2443 04:09:20,764 --> 04:09:24,334 invite you to turn this into a more strategic question. 2444 04:09:24,334 --> 04:09:25,603 >> thank you for that opportunity present don't 2445 04:09:25,603 --> 04:09:29,730 mention it. >> let me try and reframe that 2446 04:09:29,730 --> 04:09:34,473 as a more strategic dream. >> last spring during budgeting 2447 04:09:36,146 --> 04:09:39,817 season I know that there were last minute funds from the 2448 04:09:39,817 --> 04:09:47,170 state that were allocated to the district that we I think as 2449 04:09:47,491 --> 04:09:51,328 a board we're not fully understanding how those funds I 2450 04:09:51,328 --> 04:09:56,128 think approximately $30 million were going to be deployed 2451 04:09:58,502 --> 04:09:59,703 toward student outcomes in the district. 2452 04:09:59,703 --> 04:10:05,103 do the strategies that are described here allocate those 2453 04:10:06,410 --> 04:10:12,410 funds or represent any kind of changes in funding allocations 2454 04:10:13,717 --> 04:10:18,155 toward meeting goal two? >> thank you for that very 2455 04:10:18,155 --> 04:10:20,555 strategic question and healing . 2456 04:10:23,661 --> 04:10:25,328 so the the funds the additional funding that we receive from 2457 04:10:25,328 --> 04:10:30,128 the state we're already purposed restricted to certain 2458 04:10:31,802 --> 04:10:36,390 things but the amount that we allocated towards added 2459 04:10:36,390 --> 04:10:41,439 services components was around $12.5 million and part of the 2460 04:10:45,149 --> 04:10:48,619 $12.5 million is actually in development right now 2461 04:10:48,619 --> 04:10:52,823 in planning process right now as we think through what would 2462 04:10:52,823 --> 04:10:54,910 the additional professional development for our educators 2463 04:10:54,910 --> 04:10:57,227 look like? What would it look like if we 2464 04:10:57,227 --> 04:11:00,965 were to be really strategic in allocating additional 2465 04:11:00,965 --> 04:11:06,965 supports to focal population students and and how would we 2466 04:11:08,505 --> 04:11:11,975 how would we provide the additional support to 2467 04:11:11,975 --> 04:11:17,375 educators, to administrators so and principal supervisors so as 2468 04:11:20,184 --> 04:11:26,184 part of this strategy we have not dipped into the $12.5 2469 04:11:26,799 --> 04:11:31,471 million because we were quite fortunate that as we were 2470 04:11:31,471 --> 04:11:38,671 hiring up for math teachers we do have some wiggle room within 2471 04:11:38,745 --> 04:11:43,490 that the the just the allocation to be able to 2472 04:11:43,490 --> 04:11:49,490 support the lab schools. John, do you want to add 2473 04:11:49,455 --> 04:11:51,240 anything to that? >> no, but I think it's a good 2474 04:11:51,240 --> 04:11:57,363 push that if we think that a school would benefit from 2475 04:11:57,363 --> 04:12:01,500 something extra in aligned with that that we should do that so 2476 04:12:01,500 --> 04:12:05,505 you know there's nothing right now that I can say but at the 2477 04:12:05,505 --> 04:12:11,505 same time we should consider thank you also on slide 13 2478 04:12:16,716 --> 04:12:23,916 there is an indication that there's been more of a focus on 2479 04:12:24,923 --> 04:12:30,323 preparing assistant principals to support goal two on sites. 2480 04:12:30,529 --> 04:12:34,900 are there any middle schools that do not have assistant 2481 04:12:34,900 --> 04:12:38,871 principals and what is our strategy for reaching them with 2482 04:12:38,871 --> 04:12:43,710 the same professional development and supports that 2483 04:12:43,442 --> 04:12:44,643 schools with assistant principals are receiving? 2484 04:12:44,643 --> 04:12:47,880 >> I could take that. >> so last year we started the 2485 04:12:47,880 --> 04:12:51,617 year so we have what's called cohort meetings. 2486 04:12:51,617 --> 04:12:54,354 cohort meetings are where principals and assistant 2487 04:12:54,354 --> 04:12:55,688 principals get together and at the early education 2488 04:12:55,688 --> 04:13:00,488 and elementary level they come together once collectively 2489 04:13:01,594 --> 04:13:02,762 principals, assistant principals and then once a 2490 04:13:02,762 --> 04:13:05,365 month and what's called citywide where they come 2491 04:13:05,365 --> 04:13:06,832 together across and we include their instructional coaches 2492 04:13:06,832 --> 04:13:10,436 and that was in partnership with curriculum and instruction 2493 04:13:10,436 --> 04:13:13,138 the last couple of years at the middle school level we separate 2494 04:13:13,138 --> 04:13:14,373 principals and assistant principals into two different 2495 04:13:14,373 --> 04:13:17,910 groups because of the size of the groups and also because of 2496 04:13:17,910 --> 04:13:21,780 the apis need to stay back on. >> principals are off and vice 2497 04:13:21,780 --> 04:13:25,451 versa in every single key and middle school has at least 2498 04:13:25,451 --> 04:13:28,654 one assistant principal last year and this this current year 2499 04:13:28,654 --> 04:13:33,459 when we started the additional support for math given that we 2500 04:13:33,459 --> 04:13:40,466 had goal two as as the focus for for middle school leave 2501 04:13:40,466 --> 04:13:41,800 and c and I got together and said all right well we'll 2502 04:13:41,800 --> 04:13:45,137 we won't do another meeting off campus. 2503 04:13:45,137 --> 04:13:48,540 we'll do our virtual meeting and we'll separate the group 2504 04:13:48,540 --> 04:13:49,975 into kids and middle school. And so we started out the year 2505 04:13:49,975 --> 04:13:52,879 pulling principals and assistant principals for a 2506 04:13:52,879 --> 04:13:56,149 second time a month but virtually by their grade band. 2507 04:13:56,149 --> 04:13:59,752 so kade principals and assistant principals came 2508 04:13:59,752 --> 04:14:01,153 once and then middle school principals came another time 2509 04:14:01,153 --> 04:14:04,290 and the virtual meetings were just terrible for so many 2510 04:14:04,290 --> 04:14:07,600 reasons and so after two months of trying that we were like 2511 04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:09,929 nope we can't do this. This is like no first of all 2512 04:14:09,929 --> 04:14:12,698 everyone's getting pulled in an emergency fire drill somewhere 2513 04:14:12,698 --> 04:14:13,900 and so then we put our heads together. 2514 04:14:13,900 --> 04:14:16,502 we said well what can we do? And we said well what if we 2515 04:14:16,502 --> 04:14:17,970 what if we give assistant principals this focus and then 2516 04:14:17,970 --> 04:14:21,325 we have assistant principals bring it back to principals? 2517 04:14:21,325 --> 04:14:24,862 and so we tried that last year and we saw some success. 2518 04:14:24,862 --> 04:14:28,198 we saw deepened understanding for assistant principals. 2519 04:14:28,198 --> 04:14:29,633 we saw an increase in learning walks last year by them. 2520 04:14:29,633 --> 04:14:32,369 we saw them engage in conversations that we hadn't 2521 04:14:32,369 --> 04:14:36,730 seen previously across schools and we didn't always see it 2522 04:14:36,730 --> 04:14:37,407 translate into them having conversations that were 2523 04:14:37,407 --> 04:14:39,807 strategic with their principal . 2524 04:14:40,430 --> 04:14:41,712 so at the end of the year m and I were like all right, what 2525 04:14:41,712 --> 04:14:44,615 do we do? And so we started building it 2526 04:14:44,615 --> 04:14:45,749 into our one on ones. We'd go to the principal be 2527 04:14:45,749 --> 04:14:47,617 like what you learn from your assistant principal this month 2528 04:14:47,617 --> 04:14:49,352 you can see how that probably went over that felt like it was 2529 04:14:49,352 --> 04:14:51,855 a gotcha. So then this year we said let's 2530 04:14:51,855 --> 04:14:55,159 not do that. So when we built out our scope 2531 04:14:55,159 --> 04:14:56,392 and sequence for professional learning this year for 2532 04:14:56,392 --> 04:14:59,663 administrators in conjunction with rpa and cni, what we said 2533 04:14:59,663 --> 04:15:03,300 is how do we do something with principals and with us 2534 04:15:03,300 --> 04:15:06,570 assistant principals every single month and then where 2535 04:15:06,570 --> 04:15:10,107 there are coaches how do we then also build that in because 2536 04:15:10,107 --> 04:15:12,142 as as you know all the kids have coaches. 2537 04:15:12,142 --> 04:15:14,111 one is still in the process of being hired but at the middle 2538 04:15:14,111 --> 04:15:17,113 school level about half of them have coaches and so we wanted 2539 04:15:17,113 --> 04:15:21,510 to like be strategic about doing what we're doing with 2540 04:15:21,510 --> 04:15:22,585 elementary school and applying it to the middle school level 2541 04:15:22,585 --> 04:15:25,550 even though the role the coach at the middle school level is 2542 04:15:25,550 --> 04:15:28,580 slightly different. So we learned from last year 2543 04:15:28,580 --> 04:15:32,129 and we've had our first partnership with curriculum 2544 04:15:32,129 --> 04:15:33,396 this this last month september for both principals 2545 04:15:33,396 --> 04:15:37,340 and assistant principals around learning walk specifically 2546 04:15:37,340 --> 04:15:41,472 and like how to get started and to make sure we remove the 2547 04:15:41,472 --> 04:15:44,700 barriers and how we did that and this coming month we'll do 2548 04:15:44,700 --> 04:15:45,675 a calibration of like how do we know what we're seeing is high 2549 04:15:45,675 --> 04:15:48,611 quality and we'll do it in both places principal and assistant 2550 04:15:48,611 --> 04:15:53,411 principal thank you. I really appreciated the linked 2551 04:15:54,685 --> 04:15:59,155 spreadsheet in the responses regarding the uptake of algebra 2552 04:15:59,155 --> 04:16:03,930 across different middle schools in k eight and was wondering 2553 04:16:03,930 --> 04:16:08,999 what our strategy is to make algebra available at the two 2554 04:16:08,999 --> 04:16:13,370 schools that that spreadsheet indicates have no eighth 2555 04:16:13,370 --> 04:16:16,940 graders taking algebra and whether that is an 2556 04:16:16,940 --> 04:16:21,111 availability resource issue of our provision or whether there 2557 04:16:21,111 --> 04:16:24,782 are strategies to improve readiness of students to access 2558 04:16:24,782 --> 04:16:29,530 the curriculum as well. I was waiting for that question 2559 04:16:29,530 --> 04:16:32,556 and I'm also going to say that if you can just try to turn 2560 04:16:32,556 --> 04:16:36,920 that into a more strategic question that would be helpful. 2561 04:16:36,920 --> 04:16:37,560 >> it's my question where are our strategies to make sure all 2562 04:16:37,560 --> 04:16:40,731 of our students including at two entire middle schools are 2563 04:16:40,731 --> 04:16:44,670 able to access algebra? >> oh, I don't think by putting 2564 04:16:44,670 --> 04:16:47,700 the word strategy in the question it turns it into 2565 04:16:47,700 --> 04:16:48,710 necessarily a strategic question. 2566 04:16:48,710 --> 04:16:54,671 >> just saying is there can you maybe I can help here? 2567 04:17:00,950 --> 04:17:04,870 I'd love for you to model strategic question asking 2568 04:17:04,870 --> 04:17:09,920 because I think your question is is is aimed at an 2569 04:17:09,920 --> 04:17:10,828 accessibility question and how it improves eighth great 2570 04:17:10,828 --> 04:17:14,428 outcomes. I think it's about barriers. 2571 04:17:15,538 --> 04:17:19,420 yeah, that's what I'm hearing that you know that is also what 2572 04:17:19,420 --> 04:17:23,646 I'm hearing maybe when one question would be what are the 2573 04:17:23,646 --> 04:17:27,117 barriers that we know exist among our eighth grade students 2574 04:17:27,117 --> 04:17:30,587 currently at our schools that we may want to consider as we 2575 04:17:30,587 --> 04:17:35,387 think about improving our eighth grade math outcomes 2576 04:17:37,590 --> 04:17:41,931 and I am worried that on a site specific level for equity 2577 04:17:41,931 --> 04:17:42,732 purposes. >> all right. 2578 04:17:42,732 --> 04:17:45,680 I'm going to pick up the question because we know which 2579 04:17:45,680 --> 04:17:46,503 two schools it is and there are two different reasons that 2580 04:17:46,503 --> 04:17:51,407 those two schools so I think we have one case and one middle 2581 04:17:51,407 --> 04:17:55,445 school that didn't have any up takers for algebra. 2582 04:17:55,445 --> 04:17:58,480 as you know, we the algebra was offered across our school sites 2583 04:17:58,480 --> 04:17:59,949 and where anyone wanted to take algebra they were encouraged 2584 04:17:59,949 --> 04:18:05,521 and supported to do so. In fact two schools three 2585 04:18:05,521 --> 04:18:09,826 schools added a zero period this year might I add almost 2586 04:18:09,826 --> 04:18:10,960 seamlessly like it was kind of impressive. 2587 04:18:10,960 --> 04:18:14,430 I want to like pick I want to like lift up those 2588 04:18:14,430 --> 04:18:17,667 administrators that did gargantuan work to make 2589 04:18:17,667 --> 04:18:19,100 teachers or sharing classrooms kids who take the bus get it. 2590 04:18:19,100 --> 04:18:22,505 I mean it really was a lot of work on the part of the 2591 04:18:22,505 --> 04:18:25,975 principals and the unions that participated with those 2592 04:18:25,975 --> 04:18:27,110 principals and the assistant principal. 2593 04:18:27,110 --> 04:18:29,913 so anyway, that's what you asked me but I'm just gonna 2594 04:18:29,913 --> 04:18:32,782 give a plug for them at the two schools where we saw that 2595 04:18:32,782 --> 04:18:35,985 students didn't enroll in algebra, there was at the k 2596 04:18:35,985 --> 04:18:37,453 eight level there were kind of like three ways that kids 2597 04:18:37,453 --> 04:18:40,790 picked this up. One was we're just going to 2598 04:18:40,790 --> 04:18:44,126 roll everyone in algebra because we don't know what else 2599 04:18:44,126 --> 04:18:47,463 to do because our school site is so tiny that if we don't 2600 04:18:47,463 --> 04:18:48,965 give everyone this elective then we can't make our schedule 2601 04:18:48,965 --> 04:18:51,868 work. So in some cases regardless of 2602 04:18:51,868 --> 04:18:56,380 how many students were automatically enrolled, every 2603 04:18:56,380 --> 04:18:57,440 single student got their math eight and then they got the 2604 04:18:57,440 --> 04:19:01,111 algebra and then where they opted out they tried to figure 2605 04:19:01,111 --> 04:19:04,140 out what to do and there were some creative ways of doing 2606 04:19:04,140 --> 04:19:05,481 that in other schools they opted and only the kids who 2607 04:19:05,481 --> 04:19:09,318 opted in and then they really tried to work out their 2608 04:19:09,318 --> 04:19:12,254 schedule and there were some funky electives happening 2609 04:19:12,254 --> 04:19:16,192 and then at a third school they offered the opportunity but no 2610 04:19:16,192 --> 04:19:18,761 one was actually eligible at that particular school and so 2611 04:19:18,761 --> 04:19:20,960 no one picked it up. And so for the first year what 2612 04:19:20,960 --> 04:19:22,899 they said is let's do some math labs. 2613 04:19:22,899 --> 04:19:24,233 and similarly at the middle school where this happened 2614 04:19:24,233 --> 04:19:27,369 there was no automatic enrollment at that particular 2615 04:19:27,369 --> 04:19:30,272 site and they're using their algebra for sixth and seventh 2616 04:19:30,272 --> 04:19:33,109 grade math labs to increase one eligible eligibility for 2617 04:19:33,109 --> 04:19:36,779 automatic enrollment but also excitement around algebra. 2618 04:19:36,779 --> 04:19:39,882 >> so I do think that there will be some shifts in both of 2619 04:19:39,882 --> 04:19:41,251 those places for next year and there was some questions 2620 04:19:41,251 --> 04:19:44,687 that we had around like where do we allow or where do we 2621 04:19:44,687 --> 04:19:48,792 support leaders to make decisions that are really good 2622 04:19:48,792 --> 04:19:50,590 for their community but also where do we push the 2623 04:19:50,590 --> 04:19:53,296 conversation so that if it's challenging because of a 2624 04:19:53,296 --> 04:19:56,198 structural issue we can interrupt that structural issue 2625 04:19:56,198 --> 04:19:57,667 to make sure that access is happening especially for our or 2626 04:19:57,667 --> 04:20:00,403 at least reach students. So thanks for that question 2627 04:20:00,403 --> 04:20:07,559 because it's when we have to I wanted to pick up and follow up 2628 04:20:07,559 --> 04:20:10,628 and vice versa hearings it's actually was her earlier 2629 04:20:10,628 --> 04:20:11,897 question and I think it relates to this one too. 2630 04:20:11,897 --> 04:20:16,697 >> so we have this 12 the 12,000,012.5 million that was 2631 04:20:17,369 --> 04:20:18,637 put in the budget as a commitment which I actually 2632 04:20:18,637 --> 04:20:23,975 think we're required to spend because otherwise we're not 2633 04:20:23,975 --> 04:20:27,575 honoring the state reserve cap requirement. 2634 04:20:27,646 --> 04:20:32,184 so that's a different topic. But so strategic question so my 2635 04:20:32,184 --> 04:20:36,721 question is given that given the fact that we have to spend 2636 04:20:36,721 --> 04:20:40,258 it, what do we know about interventions that do work for 2637 04:20:40,258 --> 04:20:44,262 based on targeted increase investments at schools like 2638 04:20:44,262 --> 04:20:47,665 what have where is that been happening and what have we 2639 04:20:47,665 --> 04:20:48,867 learned from it? I guess I was thinking about 2640 04:20:48,867 --> 04:20:51,302 this your question too about like oh if a school hasn't been 2641 04:20:51,302 --> 04:20:54,873 able to implement this what are examples of targeted 2642 04:20:54,873 --> 04:20:56,740 investments? We've already done that that we 2643 04:20:56,740 --> 04:20:59,111 have data showing we think they work that might inform our 2644 04:20:59,111 --> 04:21:02,111 thinking about investments moving forward. 2645 04:21:05,283 --> 04:21:10,683 I can see I can see john being frustrated. 2646 04:21:12,290 --> 04:21:19,231 you know, I think again because this is going to be the first 2647 04:21:19,231 --> 04:21:23,634 that's the we just completed one full year of of the math 2648 04:21:23,634 --> 04:21:27,172 curriculum. I think there's still a lot of 2649 04:21:27,172 --> 04:21:30,242 learnings that has to that has to happen. 2650 04:21:30,242 --> 04:21:37,716 we still need to evaluate the the data and see how we are how 2651 04:21:37,716 --> 04:21:38,783 we are doing in implementing the curriculum. 2652 04:21:38,783 --> 04:21:45,857 I will say from from just again talking to the team that we do 2653 04:21:45,857 --> 04:21:50,529 need to provide additional supports from for for our 2654 04:21:50,529 --> 04:21:53,931 students and it's something that john and the team and I 2655 04:21:53,931 --> 04:21:57,736 have had lots of conversations about and supports could look 2656 04:21:57,736 --> 04:22:01,336 anywhere from additional instructional coaches for 2657 04:22:01,873 --> 04:22:07,273 educators to additional family supports for students and for 2658 04:22:08,880 --> 04:22:11,880 families to differential supporting differential 2659 04:22:13,418 --> 04:22:15,818 instruction inside the classroom. 2660 04:22:17,322 --> 04:22:21,626 and and I think this is all going to require a lot of a lot 2661 04:22:21,626 --> 04:22:27,965 of planning from from the team and for the team and something 2662 04:22:27,965 --> 04:22:32,137 that we are actively engaging in right now so we don't have 2663 04:22:32,137 --> 04:22:35,507 an answer for you. But I will say that we are 2664 04:22:35,507 --> 04:22:39,677 actively thinking through that and again to be clear I wasn't 2665 04:22:39,677 --> 04:22:41,120 asking for the plan. I was asking what we know about 2666 04:22:41,120 --> 04:22:44,616 what we're already doing which I assume we have knowled of. 2667 04:22:44,616 --> 04:22:48,186 so I but I, I understand if we don't want to answer that 2668 04:22:48,186 --> 04:22:49,588 question right now but I guess the question really was about 2669 04:22:49,588 --> 04:22:51,723 what are we already doing in terms of targeted 2670 04:22:51,723 --> 04:22:55,193 investments because we are I know we're doing some I mean 2671 04:22:55,193 --> 04:22:56,597 it's not that we're not doing anything and so I guess my 2672 04:22:56,597 --> 04:22:59,601 question was more about what are we learning from what was 2673 04:22:59,601 --> 04:23:02,937 happening that's already been happening in the past not not 2674 04:23:02,937 --> 04:23:04,138 so much a push to already have the plan. 2675 04:23:04,138 --> 04:23:07,475 so I apologize if that wasn't clear. 2676 04:23:07,475 --> 04:23:10,412 >> well, I think one of the things that the team has just 2677 04:23:10,412 --> 04:23:12,120 I'm sorry just my eyes one of the things that the team has 2678 04:23:12,120 --> 04:23:14,749 just shared is just that in learning that just just 2679 04:23:14,749 --> 04:23:18,949 pulling our apps out for additional professional 2680 04:23:19,530 --> 04:23:23,224 learning opportunities was not enough and that we're now going 2681 04:23:23,224 --> 04:23:26,494 to do professional opportunities for the apps as 2682 04:23:26,494 --> 04:23:29,631 well as the site leader. So that's an additional thing 2683 04:23:29,631 --> 04:23:33,501 that we've learned and now we're pivoting to do expect to 2684 04:23:33,501 --> 04:23:37,372 do more and expand. We're also realizing that we 2685 04:23:37,372 --> 04:23:41,509 need to do more professional development opportunities 2686 04:23:41,509 --> 04:23:45,380 across grade cohorts and grade bands to support our educators 2687 04:23:45,380 --> 04:23:52,580 and I know that there's a focus on expanding on our each 2688 04:23:53,554 --> 04:23:57,191 and every student by name where we're learning how we do that. 2689 04:23:57,191 --> 04:24:02,196 and for conductors for african american students and now we 2690 04:24:02,196 --> 04:24:08,302 want to replicate it for our sixth graders and doing more 2691 04:24:08,302 --> 04:24:11,302 intentional english learner focused trainings. 2692 04:24:11,806 --> 04:24:16,277 so so there are there are things that we've learned this 2693 04:24:16,277 --> 04:24:20,810 past year and we're going to try a couple of those things 2694 04:24:20,810 --> 04:24:25,920 moving forward and and then in terms of tapping into the 2695 04:24:25,920 --> 04:24:32,520 12.5, we're going to continue to figure out how to use that. 2696 04:24:32,761 --> 04:24:34,261 I think my next question is a follow up question to 2697 04:24:34,261 --> 04:24:39,661 alexandra's question which is gold it interim goal 2.1 looks 2698 04:24:40,101 --> 04:24:44,371 at sixth grade african american students and the first 2699 04:24:44,371 --> 04:24:47,976 evaluation for that is in the fall which is pretty soon after 2700 04:24:47,976 --> 04:24:51,112 they've finished their elementary school education. 2701 04:24:51,112 --> 04:24:55,516 given our ability to track where students went to 2702 04:24:55,516 --> 04:24:58,919 elementary school in our middle school feeder patterns do we 2703 04:24:58,919 --> 04:25:02,724 know of any strategies that we're employing in elementary 2704 04:25:02,724 --> 04:25:06,394 schools such as lesson study or anything else that are 2705 04:25:06,394 --> 04:25:10,565 predictive of higher uh, sixth grade performance for our focus 2706 04:25:10,565 --> 04:25:13,668 students coming in at the beginning of middle school to 2707 04:25:13,668 --> 04:25:19,680 help with that readiness for eighth grade achievement there 2708 04:25:21,275 --> 04:25:27,275 tends to there's actually a question that I've been very 2709 04:25:29,283 --> 04:25:32,821 curious and interested in I just haven't had the time to 2710 04:25:32,821 --> 04:25:37,491 dig in not just lesson study but just just based on where 2711 04:25:37,491 --> 04:25:40,761 students come from which which schools and going back to many 2712 04:25:40,761 --> 04:25:43,765 of your questions about identifying bright spots about 2713 04:25:43,765 --> 04:25:47,681 things that were done well I was actually just browsing some 2714 04:25:47,681 --> 04:25:51,452 of the historical data many focal students achievement 2715 04:25:51,452 --> 04:25:58,652 issues go way back, right? So I've always held to the line 2716 04:25:59,526 --> 04:26:03,531 that trying to support students in middle school is a little 2717 04:26:03,531 --> 04:26:07,168 bit too late. So yeah, in order to kind of 2718 04:26:07,168 --> 04:26:10,738 dig into that um we'd be very interested in going further 2719 04:26:10,738 --> 04:26:13,674 back in time to see where the optimal point of intervention 2720 04:26:13,674 --> 04:26:19,674 might be and fortunately we don't have that information at 2721 04:26:24,551 --> 04:26:28,880 our fingertips right now but definitely something that we 2722 04:26:28,880 --> 04:26:33,260 should look into. >> I mean what I heard was when 2723 04:26:33,260 --> 04:26:36,263 elementary schools are doing well or maybe not that are 2724 04:26:36,263 --> 04:26:39,633 contributing to that sixth grade dip and I just don't 2725 04:26:39,633 --> 04:26:44,337 think we've sussed out that beta pattern and where kids go 2726 04:26:44,337 --> 04:26:47,775 to be able to answer that really well. 2727 04:26:47,775 --> 04:26:51,912 but again figuring that out might lead to some type of like 2728 04:26:51,912 --> 04:26:55,182 something that's happening in the third, fourth, fifth 2729 04:26:55,182 --> 04:26:58,853 grade at particular schools that you know would help us 2730 04:26:58,853 --> 04:27:00,120 in the future. >> yeah, I think my question is 2731 04:27:00,120 --> 04:27:06,127 more are there will we see data we see is district wide but 2732 04:27:06,127 --> 04:27:10,497 when we break it down to like elementary school level perhaps 2733 04:27:10,497 --> 04:27:14,100 are there elementary schools where focal students are 2734 04:27:14,100 --> 04:27:17,671 outperforming and to what strategies do we attribute that 2735 04:27:17,671 --> 04:27:21,871 ? Can we expand on those that I 2736 04:27:24,712 --> 04:27:29,182 am hesitating because mine is an inference based 2737 04:27:29,182 --> 04:27:35,782 extrapolation and not one that I can say with deep research 2738 04:27:36,157 --> 04:27:39,693 base. >> maybe I'll give that anyways 2739 04:27:39,693 --> 04:27:44,498 and so I think there are some consistent and predictable 2740 04:27:44,498 --> 04:27:47,568 patterns when we look at schools across it. 2741 04:27:47,568 --> 04:27:54,541 um middle school and elementary school that we see and so you 2742 04:27:54,541 --> 04:27:58,879 know we have some high growth schools particularly for focal 2743 04:27:58,879 --> 04:28:00,381 populations of students, particularly for black students 2744 04:28:00,381 --> 04:28:03,717 at the middle school level. And there's one specific school 2745 04:28:03,717 --> 04:28:06,887 I'm thinking where there their math growth actually outpaced 2746 04:28:06,887 --> 04:28:13,487 their ela growth which is unusual and what I would say 2747 04:28:14,728 --> 04:28:18,532 and there are some similar elementary schools in that 2748 04:28:18,532 --> 04:28:22,602 pattern I think what I would say predictably and and again 2749 04:28:22,602 --> 04:28:26,273 this is not a research based but from my own like inferences 2750 04:28:26,273 --> 04:28:30,411 being in those classrooms you are looking at classrooms where 2751 04:28:30,411 --> 04:28:35,211 that trifecta of high quality curriculum and instruction, 2752 04:28:37,417 --> 04:28:38,819 high quality teacher practice and strong student ownership 2753 04:28:38,819 --> 04:28:45,826 are occurring every single day. And I just would say I think we 2754 04:28:45,826 --> 04:28:49,831 dramatically often underplay what is required in terms of 2755 04:28:49,831 --> 04:28:53,568 like the consistency and the precision of instruction to 2756 04:28:53,568 --> 04:28:56,571 move outcomes. And I will also say I think we 2757 04:28:56,571 --> 04:29:00,341 dramatically underplay the deep belief that adults have to have 2758 04:29:00,341 --> 04:29:04,579 in the brilliance of students in order to not over scaffold 2759 04:29:04,579 --> 04:29:08,315 in order to not under anticipate their perseverance 2760 04:29:08,315 --> 04:29:12,720 in order to not believe that they might need something 2761 04:29:12,720 --> 04:29:16,900 different that maybe isn't quite grade level. 2762 04:29:16,900 --> 04:29:17,910 right? So I think what in these 2763 04:29:17,910 --> 04:29:20,295 schools that both are demonstrating high growth for 2764 04:29:20,295 --> 04:29:24,265 vocal students and that I have been in those classrooms I 2765 04:29:24,265 --> 04:29:27,535 think there is somewhat a beauty and a magic in that 2766 04:29:27,535 --> 04:29:31,720 simplicity in terms of the quality and the consistency of 2767 04:29:31,720 --> 04:29:34,876 the instructional practice and the school systems that 2768 04:29:34,876 --> 04:29:36,277 support it whether it be teacher collaboration or 2769 04:29:36,277 --> 04:29:39,877 coaching or very strong instructional leaders. 2770 04:29:42,283 --> 04:29:45,619 thank you. I have one quick final question 2771 04:29:45,619 --> 04:29:49,219 . Um, what evidence do we have 2772 04:29:49,757 --> 04:29:54,228 in our data if any that our math and tech strategies are 2773 04:29:54,228 --> 04:30:00,828 causing any growth in our eighth grade or other our math 2774 04:30:02,360 --> 04:30:08,510 outcomes, our goal two outcomes I, I think we've asked for 2775 04:30:08,510 --> 04:30:11,912 example around like a mirror whether a mirror implementation 2776 04:30:11,912 --> 04:30:16,384 is causing is helping is causing student outcomes to 2777 04:30:16,384 --> 04:30:20,188 improve and answer they've gotten in the past or around 2778 04:30:20,188 --> 04:30:25,588 kind of the theoretical application of a mirror that 2779 04:30:29,531 --> 04:30:34,269 we're not tied to actual outcomes in our student data 2780 04:30:34,269 --> 04:30:35,669 and I'm wondering if we have any evidence in our student 2781 04:30:35,669 --> 04:30:39,400 data about the impact that those tools are having or not 2782 04:30:39,400 --> 04:30:45,400 when you say edtech are you talking about um technology 2783 04:30:46,810 --> 04:30:47,548 tools that are providing tutoring services and math to 2784 04:30:47,548 --> 04:30:48,830 students? Yes. 2785 04:30:48,830 --> 04:30:50,652 okay. Because we don't because we're 2786 04:30:50,652 --> 04:30:53,554 not current using one in math the like we are a mirror we 2787 04:30:53,554 --> 04:30:57,759 have decimal shows so which is imagine math. 2788 04:30:57,759 --> 04:31:01,295 it's part of the curriculum. >> it is it's a computer tool. 2789 04:31:01,295 --> 04:31:07,295 I thought we'd previously discussed a mirror is using a 2790 04:31:07,668 --> 04:31:12,206 math tutor and that it was deployed across know so that 2791 04:31:12,206 --> 04:31:16,760 one point of clarification so amir is specifically literacy 2792 04:31:16,760 --> 04:31:20,247 based there is a tool at the high school level idea that is 2793 04:31:20,247 --> 04:31:26,386 an a.I. Based math tutor that we did pilot last year and do 2794 04:31:26,386 --> 04:31:33,338 some study around but it is not at the middle school level. 2795 04:31:33,338 --> 04:31:38,420 >> okay so I am going to move us to oh okay. 2796 04:31:38,420 --> 04:31:40,844 >> yes. Commissioner fisher sorry if 2797 04:31:40,844 --> 04:31:42,346 one follow up question and I promise is strategic and I hope 2798 04:31:42,346 --> 04:31:46,184 it's quick um I just have to get back to it and find it now. 2799 04:31:46,184 --> 04:31:50,154 um, because I have too many spreadsheets open to actually 2800 04:31:50,154 --> 04:31:52,923 okay. Mine is about strategic 2801 04:31:52,923 --> 04:31:58,923 resource allocation. I do have converted me to the I 2802 04:32:00,798 --> 04:32:03,968 shouldn't say converted but you've convinced me like the 2803 04:32:03,968 --> 04:32:05,570 hearing how important learning was based on what you've shared 2804 04:32:05,570 --> 04:32:08,973 today and I love the strategy of and focusing on the student 2805 04:32:08,973 --> 04:32:13,773 ownership but I'm wondering we're already hearing from 2806 04:32:15,112 --> 04:32:18,482 school site leaders just how much work it is to run a school 2807 04:32:18,482 --> 04:32:19,884 ,right? So do we have the appropriate 2808 04:32:19,884 --> 04:32:23,870 level of resources in place to make sure that we can implement 2809 04:32:23,870 --> 04:32:26,524 these strategies with fidelity and click the amount of data we 2810 04:32:26,524 --> 04:32:30,128 need to make the decisions we want to make especially like we 2811 04:32:30,128 --> 04:32:34,465 heard complaints you know when we cut apps at many schools. 2812 04:32:34,465 --> 04:32:37,935 so I'm just I'm like wondering do are the resources sufficient 2813 04:32:37,935 --> 04:32:42,735 to meet the strategy? It's great, commissioner fisher 2814 04:32:45,743 --> 04:32:48,813 that we're ending on this particular question because 2815 04:32:48,813 --> 04:32:52,883 this is what john davis started this whole conversation with 2816 04:32:52,883 --> 04:32:54,218 which is the amazing dr. Harrell who's sitting back 2817 04:32:54,218 --> 04:33:00,818 there because we are engaging with a few of our principals 2818 04:33:01,559 --> 04:33:08,532 right now to really do a mapping of all of their roles 2819 04:33:08,532 --> 04:33:09,700 and responsibilities in school sites. 2820 04:33:09,700 --> 04:33:12,570 so we're talking to principals in different cohorts so 2821 04:33:12,570 --> 04:33:15,973 elementary, middle and high school I think we're doing a 2822 04:33:15,973 --> 04:33:20,144 key one to just really understand all the load that is 2823 04:33:20,144 --> 04:33:23,147 on their plate, everything that's on their plates and then 2824 04:33:23,147 --> 04:33:27,185 really work with them to figure out what we can do to take what 2825 04:33:27,185 --> 04:33:28,719 are some of the things that we can take off their plates 2826 04:33:28,719 --> 04:33:34,258 and move over to central office leads so we're in that process 2827 04:33:34,258 --> 04:33:38,796 now and I will be more than happy to bring back to the 2828 04:33:38,796 --> 04:33:44,796 board what we've learned in in that from those conversations 2829 04:33:46,103 --> 04:33:49,941 and what types of resourcing we would need to take additional 2830 04:33:49,941 --> 04:33:54,145 things off principals plates and then and then continue to 2831 04:33:54,145 --> 04:33:58,150 support principals to be in the classrooms to of course 2832 04:33:58,150 --> 04:34:01,218 complete that instructional core trifecta that we talked 2833 04:34:01,218 --> 04:34:04,818 about. >> I would I'm very curious 2834 04:34:05,289 --> 04:34:06,691 about the resourcing piece so I look forward to hearing more 2835 04:34:06,691 --> 04:34:09,270 about that. >> thank you. 2836 04:34:09,270 --> 04:34:13,970 um, commissioner ray it's a strategic question. 2837 04:34:13,970 --> 04:34:14,965 >> yes, I only asked one before so I can do it quickly or 2838 04:34:14,965 --> 04:34:17,367 relatively quickly. Commissioner fisher's question 2839 04:34:17,367 --> 04:34:24,108 reminded me of a question that I had had and last year there 2840 04:34:24,108 --> 04:34:25,395 was a lot of discussion about implementing things with 2841 04:34:25,395 --> 04:34:28,798 fidelity and comparisons to a pipeline and so forth. 2842 04:34:28,798 --> 04:34:32,769 this year I've heard more about implementing things with 2843 04:34:32,769 --> 04:34:36,406 integrity and there's a comment and one of the staff answers 2844 04:34:36,406 --> 04:34:40,420 that an emphasis on fidelity can become overly compliance 2845 04:34:40,420 --> 04:34:44,842 oriented etc. Etc.. So I'm actually I'm wondering 2846 04:34:46,830 --> 04:34:50,486 what is the difference if any between implementing something 2847 04:34:50,486 --> 04:34:51,755 with fidelity and implementing it with integrity? 2848 04:34:51,755 --> 04:34:55,158 why does that matter or are we actually shifting is that a 2849 04:34:55,158 --> 04:34:58,628 strategy in a way? Are we shifting strategies 2850 04:34:58,628 --> 04:34:59,962 in some fashion? >> commissioner fisher is there 2851 04:34:59,962 --> 04:35:03,500 a way that you can switch that to align it to goals 2852 04:35:03,500 --> 04:35:05,968 and guardrails? Sure I can. 2853 04:35:05,968 --> 04:35:10,768 >> oh sorry commissioner ray just got you commissioner. 2854 04:35:10,774 --> 04:35:16,174 >> I'm just so used to just getting I'm heading 2855 04:35:17,514 --> 04:35:21,584 commissioner ray is there so is there a way you can modify that 2856 04:35:21,584 --> 04:35:22,585 question to align it more than twice? 2857 04:35:22,585 --> 04:35:25,722 I'm trying to understand if we are actually if there is a 2858 04:35:25,722 --> 04:35:31,722 difference between these two things if we are shifting if 2859 04:35:32,395 --> 04:35:33,930 someone wants to help me with this they're welcome to do it. 2860 04:35:33,930 --> 04:35:39,803 >> if they are if we are shifting is there a strategic 2861 04:35:39,803 --> 04:35:40,937 strategic move? That's what I'm trying to 2862 04:35:40,937 --> 04:35:44,740 decide is it a strategic move to go from implementing with 2863 04:35:44,740 --> 04:35:47,744 fidelity to implement with integrity is that intended to 2864 04:35:47,744 --> 04:35:48,779 help us improve our student outcome goals? 2865 04:35:48,779 --> 04:35:53,579 because I'm not really understanding fully what the 2866 04:35:54,885 --> 04:35:59,550 way in which this this language is being used. 2867 04:35:59,550 --> 04:36:03,626 I don't believe that there is a there's a shift. 2868 04:36:03,626 --> 04:36:09,626 >> I think we always want to implement our curriculum with 2869 04:36:10,300 --> 04:36:16,300 fidelity and integrity because we do want our our educators, 2870 04:36:18,375 --> 04:36:23,146 our teachers to to fully embrace the the curriculum 2871 04:36:23,146 --> 04:36:27,946 because we as a board adopted the curriculum. 2872 04:36:28,518 --> 04:36:30,253 and so one, they need to be able to implement the 2873 04:36:30,253 --> 04:36:34,230 curriculum to fidelity but they can't implement the curriculum 2874 04:36:34,230 --> 04:36:37,727 for students to really own the curriculum and own the learning 2875 04:36:37,727 --> 04:36:40,931 if they don't implement it with integrity. 2876 04:36:40,931 --> 04:36:44,400 >> it goes back to the instructional core that we are 2877 04:36:44,400 --> 04:36:48,571 striving to create where we have strong curriculum and then 2878 04:36:48,571 --> 04:36:52,809 we have teachers who are able to implement that curriculum so 2879 04:36:52,809 --> 04:36:59,215 that our students are able to own that instruction to really 2880 04:36:59,215 --> 04:37:03,352 work through the the the the instructional learning 2881 04:37:03,352 --> 04:37:07,156 challenge and you can only do that if we can if our teachers 2882 04:37:07,156 --> 04:37:10,760 are able to to really embrace the curriculum. 2883 04:37:10,760 --> 04:37:18,275 so so I don't believe that there is a I don't believe that 2884 04:37:18,275 --> 04:37:24,948 there is a a a a a difference or a shift in how we want 2885 04:37:24,948 --> 04:37:28,819 educators to to own and embrace the curriculum or deliver the 2886 04:37:28,819 --> 04:37:32,923 curriculum we always want our educators to to deliver the 2887 04:37:32,923 --> 04:37:37,728 curriculum with highest integrity so so I don't believe 2888 04:37:37,728 --> 04:37:41,999 that that is the case. I don't know team if you want 2889 04:37:41,999 --> 04:37:46,203 to add to that or john yeah, I mean I think this gives a good 2890 04:37:46,203 --> 04:37:50,600 opportunity to kind of talk this out and get this out 2891 04:37:50,600 --> 04:37:52,876 in the air as much as humanly possible. 2892 04:37:52,876 --> 04:37:54,377 I mean when you're starting with the curriculum and it's 2893 04:37:54,377 --> 04:37:58,115 brand new you're going to be you want some fidelity, right? 2894 04:37:58,115 --> 04:38:01,418 because you don't like it's new. 2895 04:38:01,418 --> 04:38:04,488 you got to follow it. You got to get into it right. 2896 04:38:04,488 --> 04:38:08,559 but over time once you understand the moves, once you 2897 04:38:08,559 --> 04:38:12,629 understand different aspects of it, you can go more towards 2898 04:38:12,629 --> 04:38:13,831 integrity. >> and if a if a teacher makes 2899 04:38:13,831 --> 04:38:17,835 a move that's different but it's still very rigorous in the 2900 04:38:17,835 --> 04:38:23,835 say that final question that's asked then you're doing that 2901 04:38:24,241 --> 04:38:25,542 with integrity, right? So if you still have high 2902 04:38:25,542 --> 04:38:28,779 standards but you're changing something in the lesson as it's 2903 04:38:28,779 --> 04:38:31,849 given then that's with integrity and that's fine. 2904 04:38:31,849 --> 04:38:36,187 but again when you first get a curriculum you kind of got to 2905 04:38:36,187 --> 04:38:39,323 do it right and so you got to have fidelity to it and so 2906 04:38:39,323 --> 04:38:40,724 you'll hear that every now and then but it's really with 2907 04:38:40,724 --> 04:38:44,995 integrity and again you don't want teachers making so many 2908 04:38:44,995 --> 04:38:51,568 moves that it lowers the standard and makes it too easy 2909 04:38:51,568 --> 04:38:52,769 because sometimes that happens, right? 2910 04:38:52,769 --> 04:38:55,672 you still want to make sure as you're reading the lesson, as 2911 04:38:55,672 --> 04:38:59,410 you're reviewing the lesson as you're going through whatever 2912 04:38:59,410 --> 04:39:02,947 the students are going to have to read, you're asking the most 2913 04:39:02,947 --> 04:39:04,810 rigorous questions. You're giving them time to 2914 04:39:04,810 --> 04:39:07,717 grapple with the problem, whatever it may be. 2915 04:39:07,717 --> 04:39:11,421 >> so we end up leaning more towards integrity over time 2916 04:39:11,421 --> 04:39:14,959 even if we start with a little bit of fidelity so that 2917 04:39:14,959 --> 04:39:19,496 teachers kind of get it. Anybody want to add anything to 2918 04:39:19,496 --> 04:39:22,496 that? >> so these terms are 2919 04:39:22,632 --> 04:39:26,570 relatively new to me as well. But the way that I think about 2920 04:39:26,570 --> 04:39:29,373 them is uh kind of the the letter of something as opposed 2921 04:39:29,373 --> 04:39:30,374 to the spirit of something, right? 2922 04:39:30,374 --> 04:39:33,777 >> so like you know, you do something because it's exactly 2923 04:39:33,777 --> 04:39:37,381 specified that the abiding by the the letter of something but 2924 04:39:37,381 --> 04:39:42,781 implementing that integrity is honoring the spirit of the 2925 04:39:44,455 --> 04:39:48,655 curriculum and making whatever appropriate modification signs 2926 04:39:48,826 --> 04:39:52,596 that that honor that right so I think it's exactly in the way 2927 04:39:52,596 --> 04:39:54,310 that john just described about some overtime changes that 2928 04:39:54,310 --> 04:39:56,701 happen about how changes happen in general. 2929 04:39:56,701 --> 04:39:59,203 right. About implementing a large 2930 04:39:59,203 --> 04:40:04,141 scale curriculum change like this takes time and takes 2931 04:40:04,141 --> 04:40:10,741 phases of of trying to move folks along the spectrum of 2932 04:40:15,350 --> 04:40:19,390 okay thank you commissioners staff superintendent to have 2933 04:40:19,390 --> 04:40:22,976 this productive conversation now we will vote on whether or 2934 04:40:22,976 --> 04:40:24,770 not to accept the monitoring reports. 2935 04:40:24,770 --> 04:40:27,147 to clarify we are voting to accept the report as a formal 2936 04:40:27,147 --> 04:40:30,917 acknowledgment that we have had a satisfactory conversation 2937 04:40:30,917 --> 04:40:34,355 with the superintendent and her team and that now we have a 2938 04:40:34,355 --> 04:40:35,856 deeper understanding of how the reality of our students lines 2939 04:40:35,856 --> 04:40:38,625 up through with our vision for them to do this we will go 2940 04:40:38,625 --> 04:40:42,262 through a series of questions and vote to accept the reports 2941 04:40:42,262 --> 04:40:45,999 if the reality matches the vision of the goal if there is 2942 04:40:45,999 --> 04:40:50,204 sufficient growth towards the goal or if there is a strategy 2943 04:40:50,204 --> 04:40:53,507 or plan in place to cause that sufficient growth towards the 2944 04:40:53,507 --> 04:40:56,976 vision. If we're not able to answer yes 2945 04:40:56,976 --> 04:40:58,545 to any of these questions, the board will consider voting to 2946 04:40:58,545 --> 04:41:02,416 not accept the report. Before we do this I do want to 2947 04:41:02,416 --> 04:41:08,221 acknowledge that we have asked the superintendent to provide a 2948 04:41:08,221 --> 04:41:12,592 one year goal for us in the cut within a multi your goal of our 2949 04:41:12,592 --> 04:41:19,499 goals and to a certain extent we are not able to answer some 2950 04:41:19,499 --> 04:41:23,504 of these questions without that one year target in mind as 2951 04:41:23,504 --> 04:41:27,574 we've acknowledged previously in another board meeting that 2952 04:41:27,574 --> 04:41:31,111 we already know that we are we are not able to reach the goals 2953 04:41:31,111 --> 04:41:35,115 that we have in place practically and so first this 2954 04:41:35,115 --> 04:41:39,252 message is to staff by no means is this an indication of of our 2955 04:41:39,252 --> 04:41:42,589 belief or confidence in at least the work that we are 2956 04:41:42,589 --> 04:41:43,724 seeing at all? This is a question of whether 2957 04:41:43,724 --> 04:41:47,194 or not we are actually seeing the progress that we want to 2958 04:41:47,194 --> 04:41:49,863 see or not or plans that do that. 2959 04:41:49,863 --> 04:41:53,934 and for the board I would say that this is an opportunity for 2960 04:41:53,934 --> 04:41:55,335 us to continue to hold high expectations for ourselves 2961 04:41:55,335 --> 04:42:01,335 and for the superintendent and I think thiss a great 2962 04:42:01,541 --> 04:42:05,612 reminder for us that this entire meeting as a progress 2963 04:42:05,612 --> 04:42:09,749 monitoring meeting is meant to help us build culture around 2964 04:42:09,749 --> 04:42:14,200 student outcomes in this district and to allow us to to 2965 04:42:14,200 --> 04:42:17,824 to consider the ways in which our resources more closely 2966 04:42:17,824 --> 04:42:23,329 aligned with our goals. That said, I'm going to first 2967 04:42:23,329 --> 04:42:24,865 ask the question and at least for this meeting I'm going to 2968 04:42:24,865 --> 04:42:28,101 provide some clarification about that question before then 2969 04:42:28,101 --> 04:42:31,171 I ask the question to our commissioners. 2970 04:42:31,171 --> 04:42:34,974 so that's kind of the cadence that will go we won't do this 2971 04:42:34,974 --> 04:42:36,442 every single time but for the sake of just kind of building 2972 04:42:36,442 --> 04:42:39,110 our muscle for this. So the first question is does 2973 04:42:39,110 --> 04:42:45,786 yes just to just to clarify so the your position is that until 2974 04:42:45,786 --> 04:42:53,694 we get a new number a new a new sub goal would you call it just 2975 04:42:53,694 --> 04:42:57,663 a one year target, a one year target from superintendent sue? 2976 04:42:57,663 --> 04:43:00,805 >> it is impossible to vote yes. 2977 04:43:00,805 --> 04:43:04,876 >> correct report yeah because we already know and we've 2978 04:43:04,876 --> 04:43:06,278 acknowledged in a previous meeting that we we do not 2979 04:43:06,278 --> 04:43:08,980 intend to reach the goal that is currently in place and we we 2980 04:43:08,980 --> 04:43:12,784 knew that and we made a decision to extend our runway 2981 04:43:12,784 --> 04:43:16,721 by a year knowing that we would need to revisit our vgs and re 2982 04:43:16,721 --> 04:43:21,159 establish new goals as part of the super metrics which she 2983 04:43:21,159 --> 04:43:24,228 will come back and present on asks her to name a one year 2984 04:43:24,228 --> 04:43:28,232 target and that is what we would do our reports on to be 2985 04:43:28,232 --> 04:43:31,936 able to articulate whether or not we feel for example is 2986 04:43:31,936 --> 04:43:35,307 there sufficient is there a strategy and plan to cause that 2987 04:43:35,307 --> 04:43:38,643 sufficient growth towards that one year target? 2988 04:43:38,643 --> 04:43:42,981 >> so can I just just to clarify, it sounds like there's 2989 04:43:42,981 --> 04:43:47,180 a slight confusion so there is a time issue here that I will 2990 04:43:47,180 --> 04:43:54,526 not be able to so I won't be sharing my the response to the 2991 04:43:54,526 --> 04:43:58,730 short term metrics that the board has given me until 2992 04:43:58,730 --> 04:44:02,334 october. However, we wanted to start the 2993 04:44:02,334 --> 04:44:05,670 progress monitoring recommendations now so that's 2994 04:44:05,670 --> 04:44:11,670 why there's this mismatch in timing but I certainly hope 2995 04:44:13,812 --> 04:44:18,349 that once I share the the new targets will be able to move 2996 04:44:18,349 --> 04:44:21,949 towards that. Just for clarification, I'm 2997 04:44:24,289 --> 04:44:25,824 and maybe this is something better answered by the progress 2998 04:44:25,824 --> 04:44:31,824 monitoring committee but based on the our training I'm not 2999 04:44:32,764 --> 04:44:36,768 sure that it has to be as prescriptive as basing the 3000 04:44:36,768 --> 04:44:40,238 response to the questions on the short term metrics like I'm 3001 04:44:40,238 --> 04:44:44,209 reading the manual now and there's nothing that 3002 04:44:44,209 --> 04:44:48,413 specifically ties our yes or no to that short term metric that 3003 04:44:48,413 --> 04:44:52,183 I can see. Am I am I misunderstood ending 3004 04:44:52,183 --> 04:44:56,383 no. >> so again it is perhaps my 3005 04:44:56,421 --> 04:45:00,570 introduction of short term metrics is conflating here 3006 04:45:00,570 --> 04:45:03,728 in the short term metrics we have asked the superintendent 3007 04:45:03,728 --> 04:45:05,396 to identify a one year target so that we can reasonably hold 3008 04:45:05,396 --> 04:45:08,667 her accountable to the progress towards that target because we 3009 04:45:08,667 --> 04:45:12,471 know that the ultimate goal for goal one, two and three will 3010 04:45:12,471 --> 04:45:15,740 not be met right? So we're not replacing the 3011 04:45:15,740 --> 04:45:19,611 goals. We're saying hey, tell us a 3012 04:45:19,611 --> 04:45:22,480 reasonable target that you believe is something that can 3013 04:45:22,480 --> 04:45:23,815 be accomplished within a year so we know what to hold you 3014 04:45:23,815 --> 04:45:27,385 accountable to. >> can I say that holding the 3015 04:45:27,385 --> 04:45:30,355 superintendent accountable is not the same as as necessarily 3016 04:45:30,355 --> 04:45:34,859 voting yes on this progress monitoring report, correct? 3017 04:45:34,859 --> 04:45:37,762 >> well, but so I think can I say that sort of for me so like 3018 04:45:37,762 --> 04:45:41,599 the question number one is does the reality match the vision 3019 04:45:41,599 --> 04:45:45,970 obviously no because we're not I mean the target the vision is 3020 04:45:45,970 --> 04:45:50,170 65%. Let's be clear this is goal to 3021 04:45:50,175 --> 04:45:53,592 so the vision is 65% proficient on the back in math eighth 3022 04:45:53,592 --> 04:45:57,792 grade math. So there's the reality match 3023 04:45:58,630 --> 04:45:59,197 the vision no because we're at 45% right. 3024 04:45:59,197 --> 04:46:02,667 is there sufficient growth or division do that? 3025 04:46:02,667 --> 04:46:03,736 >> yeah yeah. So he's going to ask but I'm 3026 04:46:03,736 --> 04:46:05,871 saying like when you get to question three I guess my point 3027 04:46:05,871 --> 04:46:09,408 is like it's going to work if you think we can get 20 points 3028 04:46:09,408 --> 04:46:13,780 in a year based on this strategy you could vote yes. 3029 04:46:13,780 --> 04:46:14,646 but I think what president him is saying is like that's sort 3030 04:46:14,646 --> 04:46:17,549 of absurd and I don't think anyone's going to argue that. 3031 04:46:17,549 --> 04:46:20,619 so so if we don't have another metric like we were kind of 3032 04:46:20,619 --> 04:46:23,689 saying once we have the interim metric then we could judge with 3033 04:46:23,689 --> 04:46:24,656 that. But in the absence of any other 3034 04:46:24,656 --> 04:46:27,892 metric it's sort of absurd to say that we could and the 3035 04:46:27,892 --> 04:46:29,360 clarifications that I'm going to give for each of these 3036 04:46:29,360 --> 04:46:32,864 questions will articulate that pretty clearly. 3037 04:46:32,864 --> 04:46:34,864 >> okay. Thank you. 3038 04:46:35,567 --> 04:46:36,769 >> and it's not that correct? Yeah. 3039 04:46:36,769 --> 04:46:40,438 and I think the purpose is that we don't want to set up a 3040 04:46:40,438 --> 04:46:44,430 situation where there is great staff work and there is great 3041 04:46:44,430 --> 04:46:47,980 progress being made and we're just voting no, no, no because 3042 04:46:47,980 --> 04:46:51,160 we're not going to get 20 points in a year. 3043 04:46:51,160 --> 04:46:53,160 >> correct. Okay. 3044 04:46:54,186 --> 04:46:56,555 so it's 953 and I want to end before ten. 3045 04:46:56,555 --> 04:47:00,425 so first does the reality of this report meet the vision of 3046 04:47:00,425 --> 04:47:01,794 the goal to clarify this is an objective question. 3047 04:47:01,794 --> 04:47:05,197 the reality can match the vision if the results are on 3048 04:47:05,197 --> 04:47:10,769 track to where they should be in this case 65% right 3049 04:47:10,769 --> 04:47:14,206 so for example, if a five year proficiency goal is 70% but the 3050 04:47:14,206 --> 04:47:19,110 three year goal is 62% and the current proficiency rate is 3051 04:47:19,110 --> 04:47:22,414 62%, then yes, the reality matches the vision. 3052 04:47:22,414 --> 04:47:26,614 okay. So does the reality of this 3053 04:47:27,318 --> 04:47:30,689 report meet the vision of the goal and we're not going to 3054 04:47:30,689 --> 04:47:32,230 formally go around but just generally I think the answer is 3055 04:47:32,230 --> 04:47:34,759 no. Second, is there sufficient 3056 04:47:34,759 --> 04:47:38,597 growth towards the vision? So this is both a subjective 3057 04:47:38,597 --> 04:47:42,233 and objective question. Essentially this question is 3058 04:47:42,233 --> 04:47:46,380 asking if we are off track is there enough growth to get back 3059 04:47:46,380 --> 04:47:49,641 on track towards what this would be of 65% which we know 3060 04:47:49,641 --> 04:47:53,378 the answer is no. The third question is is there 3061 04:47:53,378 --> 04:47:57,348 a strategy and plan to cause sufficient growth towards that 3062 04:47:57,348 --> 04:47:59,748 vision? This is subjective. 3063 04:48:00,585 --> 04:48:02,120 commissioners need to decide if the strategy and plan in place 3064 04:48:02,120 --> 04:48:06,991 will cause enough growth to get back on track towards the 65% 3065 04:48:06,991 --> 04:48:10,528 again, we know the answer here will be no right? 3066 04:48:10,528 --> 04:48:14,799 so in this instance we would do a roll call vote and we would 3067 04:48:14,799 --> 04:48:17,869 vote. Now does that make sense? 3068 04:48:17,869 --> 04:48:23,141 that makes perfect sense and I think a corollary question that 3069 04:48:23,141 --> 04:48:26,978 we can ask after the fact is whether or not the goal is 3070 04:48:26,978 --> 04:48:28,790 still an appropriate representation of the 3071 04:48:28,790 --> 04:48:30,948 community's vision for what students should know and be 3072 04:48:30,948 --> 04:48:33,952 able to do so even though it's no it's still very, very 3073 04:48:33,952 --> 04:48:34,820 important. >> that's why that's why we're 3074 04:48:34,820 --> 04:48:40,220 asking for an interim period. Is that exactly right? 3075 04:48:40,992 --> 04:48:42,693 what I just said were 65% we would just replace with 3076 04:48:42,693 --> 04:48:45,693 whatever percentage the superintendent provides. 3077 04:48:45,733 --> 04:48:48,568 >> thank you. And that's why we're also 3078 04:48:48,568 --> 04:48:52,473 beginning our big listening sessions kind of got to set our 3079 04:48:52,473 --> 04:48:56,710 new okay so that said because we answered no for the first 3080 04:48:56,710 --> 04:49:00,800 question this roll call vote will be just for the third well 3081 04:49:00,800 --> 04:49:01,248 just we're going to do a roll call vote for it. 3082 04:49:01,248 --> 04:49:03,116 all right. So if you can do a roll call 3083 04:49:03,116 --> 04:49:06,116 vote please. >> I'll be great. 3084 04:49:06,453 --> 04:49:09,453 commissioner ray no commissioner alexander. 3085 04:49:10,457 --> 04:49:15,257 >> no commissioner wiseman ward no commissioner gupta no. 3086 04:49:17,731 --> 04:49:21,535 commissioner fisher no. But thank you to staff for the 3087 04:49:21,535 --> 04:49:25,135 herculean efforts. >> vice president healey now 3088 04:49:25,472 --> 04:49:32,720 president kim no thank you. >> thank you to staff and thank 3089 04:49:33,180 --> 04:49:34,215 you dr. Sue for this presentation. 3090 04:49:34,215 --> 04:49:40,621 we look forward to many more. >> and with that um I do not 3091 04:49:40,621 --> 04:49:48,421 believe we have any other items and I will adjourn at 9:55 p.m.