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Welcome to the city council regular
meeting. Today's Tuesday, February 17th,

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2026. The meeting is called to order at
6:31. The pledge of allegiance will be

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led by Council Member Woo.
>> Thank you. Please stand up

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and place your hands on your heart and
repeat after me. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.

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» Thank you.

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» Clerk, roll call, please.
>> Mayor Manaka,

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» here.
>> Vice Mayor Chan,

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» here.
>> Council member Ding,

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» here.
>> Council member Herrera Avula,

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» present.
>> Council member Woo,

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» here.
As we begin tonight's meeting, I'd like

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to wish all of our residents and
families celebrating a very happy Lunar

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New Year. This year, we welcome the year
of the horse, a symbol of strength,

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resilience, energy, and forward
momentum. In honor of today's

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celebration, the council das has been
specially decorated to recognize and

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celebrate this important holiday. May
the year of the horse inspire us to move

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boldly toward our goals and continue
building a vibrant and united St.

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Gabriel, wishing you all health,
happiness, and prosperity in the year

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ahead. We will now have some
announcements from our chief city clerk.

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Tonight's meeting is livereamed on the
city's online platforms. If you wish to

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address the city council during
tonight's meeting, we request that you

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please complete a speaker card and hand
it to the clerk at this time. When

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speaking, please state your name for the
record. Please note that interactions

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between the city council, city staff,
and the public during meetings are

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subject to the city's rules of decorum.
Approval of agenda order. Are there any

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objections to the agenda order? Okay.
Hearing none, the agenda order is

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approved.
Okay. Next item. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah,

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next item, please.
>> We have no presentations this evening.

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Our next item is public comment. This is
the time set aside for members of the

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public to address the city council on
consent calendar items and on items of

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interest that are not on the agenda but
are within the subject matter

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jurisdiction of the

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Good evening. Happy new year. Uh all of
you and I are besiders not outsiders

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when it comes to the problem of the data
center proposals in Montterrey Park. The

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45-day moratorum expires on March 7th
and it will likely be extended. On March

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4th, council will discuss next steps to
prevent the construction of the first

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one on Saturn Street. It will likely be
put to a ballot measure. The city

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council was ready to vote to approve it
with only a handful of residents knowing

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anything about it. Well, here we are now
where many of us in the St. Gabriel

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Valley have been showing up to their
meetings trying to stop it. A ballot

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measure unfortunately precludes
residents living close to the site in

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South St. Gabriel, Montabelloo, and
Roseme from being included in a solution

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to the problem. St. Gabriel is a very
old and beautiful city with significant

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historic value. No data center should be
built here ever. So, I come asking

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something of you tonight, that you put
an emergency ordinance on the agenda for

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your next meeting banning data centers
here. Monttoello did that just last

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week, passing urgency ordinance 2491
establishing a 45-day moratorium on data

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centers while the council decides on how
to proceed to prevent them over the long

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term. An attorney in Montabello spoke at
the meeting and indicated that the

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language in the ordinance has to be
carefully worded regarding types of data

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centers under consideration.
Those of us living in the St. Gabriel

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Valley are grateful to see Montabelloo
City Council taking a proactive stand to

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protect their residents and their city.
This commitment to action fosters a

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great sense of trust in and respect for
our local elected representatives. I'm

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sure you are watching the situation in
Montterrey Park unfold where residents

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are outraged, angry, and distrustful of
their council who blindsided them with

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these data centers. and two are
proposed. Data centers don't belong

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anywhere in the St. Gabriel Valley due
to extreme drought, wildfire risk, air

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pollution, and an aged power grid. It
was only just a year ago when we

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witnessed the eaten fire coming for us.
We were just lucky. So, we are asking

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you to follow Montabelloo's lead. Is it
it is easy to see that keeping them out

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is a whole lot easier than getting them
out. If the Montterrey Park City Council

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puts the problem to a ballot measure, we
will be asking for volunteers from every

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city in the St. Gabriel Valley to join
us to canvas residents and get out the

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vote. We love living here and will make
every effort to be there for our sister

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cities. It is truly amazing to see
everybody coming together to support

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residents of Montterrey Park and
surrounding areas facing this

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unimaginable situation. Thank you very
much for your time tonight.

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Our next speaker is Grace Young.

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» Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and the
members of city council. My name is

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Gracion, the library manager at the St.
Gabriel Library. I'm here to share some

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information that the library is bringing
to the community.

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February brings in the year of the horse
and we are celebrating the Luna New Year

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with book displays, festive events, and
community gatherings. Please join the

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celebration and pick up red envelope and
a red bookmark at the library. In honor

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of AfricanAmerican and Black History
Months, we are hosting a variety of

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commemorative events, including paint
like Alma Thomas on Saturday, February

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21st from 3 to 4:30 p.m. and our place
in the sun. We will be learning the

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places and the spaces that exist for
African-American families and creating

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our own black beaches back. It will be
held on Wednesday, February 25th from 3

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to 4:00 p.m. Thank you. Happy Luna New
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» Our next speaker is Denise Gotch.

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Good evening, Madame Mayor and City
Council. I am here once again to remind

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all the citizens of San Gabriel that are
watching this on YouTube, if you know

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anyone that was born or lived in San
Gabriel and served from the Civil War to

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the current war to please go online to
the San Gabriel Veterans Coalition

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website, fill out the form and then
submit your discharge paperwork for your

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relative and so we can get them on the
upcoming

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uh veterans memorial that the city of
St. Gabriel and the veterans coalition

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group and the mission are all working
together to make sure that all the

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veterans of this city are recognized for
the service that they so much sacrificed

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for all of the citizens of the United
States of America but especially for our

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city. I have been going for many
businesses to see since most of these

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veterans are deceased if they have
relatives alive that are willing to tell

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me their names, where they live to
submit. I got a nice book courtesy of

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the historical society of this young
gentleman. As you know, all the Japanese

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were sent to internment camps during
World War II. He was very unusual when

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he was in the internment camp. He wrote
a diary every single day of what

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happened to him. His family owned a
florist shop on Valley Boulevard, even

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before the San Gabriel nursery did. As
he got released from the interment camp,

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him and his brother both then went and
signed up and served in World War II.

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And I went to the nursery
and researched there and found their two

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sons that served in World War II after
the internment camp and found their

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records too. So that both of the
florists that were in our city for over

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a hundred years and several years before
that will all be recognized on the

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memorial.
So once again um the historical society

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also received several pictures of war
veterans but no name no birth dates or

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no wars. So I have to research all of
these. So I am begging all the citizens.

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We would love to have everyone on there.
They so much rightly deserve to be on

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there. So please submit your relative in
and we will try and help you research

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their records. Thank you.
The next speaker is Chidity Jennings

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Nunes.

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Good evening. I want to start with
wishing everyone a happy Lunar New Year.

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Not only for those in this room, but
also to the residents of St. Gabriel who

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are listening of which at least 60%
identify as part of the API community.

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Second, I want to say that the reception
at Blossom Market for the Black History

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Month exhibit that I invited each of you
to at the last meeting was very

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successful. Vice Mayor Chen and I have
rarely seen eye to eye since he was

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elected. Despite that, he accepted the
invitation and attended the event and I

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believe had a great time with good food
and great people. Thank you, Vice Mayor

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Chen, for support your support and
willingness to go outside of your

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comfort zone to attend an event in your
city held by a resident of your city and

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patronizing several local businesses.
Finally, and my main reason for

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commenting tonight is to call each one
of you out publicly for your complete

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lack of of voice and complete silence on
the tactics that the Department of

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Homeland Security and ICE agents are
using to harass, terrorize, unlawfully

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detain, and arrest everyone from
children to the elderly in and around

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our city. Even when we had major ice
raids at Mission Car Wash, Temple City

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Car Wash, and other local businesses,
there were no statements made by any of

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you to express your outrage, concern,
empathy, or reassurance to the

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community. It is not enough to have your
police chief respond at a meeting of

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five or six residents that the SGPD is
not assisting the federal immigration

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operations. In the last two months, we
have seen a very vocal and

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overwhelmingly negative community
response to city councils in Elmont and

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Elhhamra because local residents have
perceived an alliance between ICE agents

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and local police departments. And these
are city councils whose members have

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been outspoken in condemning the brutal
and in many cases illegal pursuit and

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detention of individuals for no other
reason than the color of their skin or

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the accent they have when they speak
English. At the recent talk of the town,

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Chief Alazald said that we have been
fortunate because San Gabriel has not

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been targeted with the intensity of
surrounding cities in the SGV. Well,

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it's coming because the quotas that were
put out by this regime haven't changed.

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So, as we begin this new year, the year
of not only the horse, but the

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firehorse, I am challenging each of you
to make a bold change and to provide the

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residents of this city with the
leadership that it needs. Find your

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moral compass. As Archbish Bishop
Desmond Tutu famously warned us, if you

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are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the

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oppressor. This is your opportunity to
correct that perception or go on the

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record in support of the tactics that
are leading to the destruction of

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families and death of immigrants and
American citizens. Thank you.

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» The next speaker is Mandy Lou.

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Um,

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good evening. My name is Mandy Lou and I
have lived in San Gabriel for 40 years.

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I remember we moved here and bought our
first home in 1986.

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And um, today is Chinese New Year.
Usually for Chinese people, we do not

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want to go appear in front of the city
council. Uh but I had to because the

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last few weeks have been so stressful to
me that I feel if I don't do something I

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could just like you know have a stroke
because what happened is

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okay before I go out we get a notice uh
from the city um what's it called co

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enforcement he said that um my front uh
the sidewalk is uh the the plants are

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too tall and the front yard is uh messy.
And before I go on, let me speak.

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When I moved to this house, they was
grass lawn just like a regular every

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other house. But I am an herbalist. I
love plants. So, uh my sister is the

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owner and I told her I do not want to
plant grass. they look uh yellow in the

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summer. So I hire people to take them
out and put in good dirt layer layer and

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um at that time I did not get any
rebates or my own money over a thousand

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and I bought native alternative grass
but um they die it's about the tr and we

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didn't have enough water so they die
anyway so I decided uh I instead of

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going back alone I will uh grow some
roses

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But last year I put all the roses into
the ground but I realized it's just too

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hot that area. So we put took them out
again. So the grow looks uh not even

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looks bad. I know but I'm planning to
like you know do something. So before I

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do it I got this violation. So I have
been working with this person his name

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is outdoor and whatever he said uh he
had tell he been telling me that oh I

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have to be put in grass put in a
sprinkler system hire a design company a

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landscape company and some to cut the
grass and I said no I want to plant a

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native plants so because I already have
grass before and he keep pushing that

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and I keep objecting that I said the
whole state of California and the city

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of Los Angeles have been telling us to
take our tough our grass out. Why does

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San Gabriel do not allow native plants?
So that is when he kind like back off

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and he said I I I have to speak to the
planner uh Christine. So when I spoke

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with her, Christine is very nice, very
understanding. She said, "Oh, it's

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fine." And at that time I realized my
backyard has some problem.

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» Excuse me. I'm sorry. you you've already
used up your time, but the city manager

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will direct you where you can express
yourself and and file a report.

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» Okay. Can I just finish and please can I
can work with anyone else except this

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out because he's been very rude, very
unprofessional.

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When I work with uh Christine and uh
John Gonzalez from the public work, they

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have been so professional, so nice, so
respectful. This person, he talked down

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to me, he yell at me. Okay. Okay. Thank
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» So, so just a moment, Mark.
>> Miss Lou, I'm sorry that you've had that

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experience. Um, I would direct you or
ask you to work with David Sanchez. He's

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in the back of the room. He'll stand up
when you walk back.

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» Oh, okay.
>> He is the supervisor over all of the

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people that you mentioned.
>> We'll work very hard to help you through

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that process and make sure at the end of
the day, you're able to do what you want

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to do as long as it meets our codes and
we can help you with the time frames for

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that.
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» The next speaker is Luis Ayala.

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Good evening. Obviously, I'm not Luis.
I'm John. Um, esteemed mayor, vice

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mayor, and honorable council. I'm here
tonight just to introduce a new team.

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We've had some changes at Athens. I'm
your new senior vice president of

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government affairs. I'll be representing
city St. Gabriel amongst a lot of other

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cities. Luis is going to be your main
point of contact. Um and we have two

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other team members that have been
assigned. It's Brandon Stansel and um

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Joslyn Korea. So we have a pretty big
team for Sano for such a esteemed city.

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Just want to let Luis introduce himself,
give a little background.

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» Uh good evening, mayor and uh city
council. Uh happy Lunar New Year. Just

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uh by way of introduction, I've probably
been at Athens services now for about

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six months and uh I've spent about 18
years in healthcare advocacy. So I'm

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very much in transition from uh learning
how to talk uh healthcare to learning

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how to talk trash.
And so uh this this community is is a

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community that I'm very close to. Uh my
wife and I actually got married at the

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San Gabriel Mission about uh you know 21
22 years ago. And so we very much

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appreciate uh I've got two uh grown kids
in college and uh my son spent the

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majority of his time uh practicing in a
lot of this San Gabriel Fields including

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Gabino High School and behind the
mission here as well. So uh again I I

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lived in Alhamra for about 16 years. I'm
now in Aladena and so I'm very much

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looking forward to working with uh each
uh one of you and getting to know each

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other and uh you know ensuring that we
have the best customer service for your

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city. Uh because if I don't do that,
John's going to take care of me here.

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» So, thank you. Good to meet you. I do
have a I can hand out.

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» Good question.
>> Thank you.

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The next speaker is Michael Cervantes.

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» Hello, my name is Michael Cervantes and
I want to speak to you about the silent

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film event that's held here each year.
Uh I've been to several of them and

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they've been really a marvelous
experience. Uh I guess the first one I

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went to was uh a silent film called
Ramona with the Lor Del Rio filmed in uh

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came out in 1928.
But what I want to speak to you about is

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to see that event enlarged.
they become instead of an event that's

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held one like one Saturday uh every
every maybe July, four times a year I

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guess four times in July, but to expand
it to make it larger and to have um

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maybe
um a newsletter developed with that

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um get in contact with people or
organizations or institutions from other

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cities like colleges,
uh maybe high schools to let them know

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about the event and that this event
becomes a focal point for the city. We

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have different events that occur here
during the during the year. We have

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street celebrations.
We have um an event for Memorial Day,

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Veterans Day, and other activities here.
But it seems as though if we could

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expand that particular activity of sun
and films, it would be a really big plus

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for the for the city and make it better
known and would give an opportunity also

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for people after they see the the movies
to go and eat and dine or have lunch at

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one of the eeries in the area there. So
eventually about to see some kind of

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committee set up to explore this idea
and to see where it could be taken. So

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this is my thought and I wish everybody
the best.

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Our next speaker is Sher Lou.

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Good evening. My name is Sheri Louu and
I am the sister of Mandy Louu. Uh today

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my issue is the same as Mandy described
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So I get an
a mail from the city of San Gabriel

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for violation of the code. And in this
letter it actually spell out that if we

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don't correct
the um

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if the violation is not corrected then I
will get a fine like 100 200 500 and

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1,000 for each day. So when I receive
the letter I make a call I call Aldo.

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It's like his name is on the letter. So
I call him and talked to him and I asked

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him to give us some extension on the um
for the uh cleaning up the backyard and

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he said no. So I told him that because
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Mandy she is like the only one who live
there and she will clean up the

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property. It take time for her to clean
it up. But he refused and he told me

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that I have to hire people to clean it
up. And if I hire people, it only take

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like two to three day to finish. And I
told him that I have my son helping

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Mandy to clean up the property. We just
need more time. And he still refueling

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it. So he's like been very forceful and
very it's like inflexible to work with

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somebody like that. And to me his job is
to serve the people uh living in San

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Gabriel helping us not to give us more
stress. This is like to me it's not a

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big issue but they he treated is like we
are commit to something that is

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seriously. So, I'm here to ask the C
council uh mayor and the councilman to

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grant us like give us an extension for
clean up the property and also like

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switch like we can work with somebody
beside ADO.

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Thank you.

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Madame Mayor, I have no more speaker
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» I'll just stay up here,

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» Mary Garcia. Thank you,
Mayor Machaka and council. I'm here this

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evening because um as you see I've been
in my walker and I've gone to visit my

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cousin at 10:26 Ullet and the curb is
rising and so when I'm walking from my

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car to get into her yard I tripped the
other day. My walker got stuck. So I'd

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like for someone to look into that. And
I did meet Michael tonight so I'm sure

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it'll get taken care of. And the other
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South Pine Street, my neighbor, theirs
is starting to rise also. So, if you

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could just have Michael look into it,
public works, I appreciate it. Thank

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you.

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» Is there anyone else?
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next item, please.
>> Consent calendar. All items listed under

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the consent calendar are considered
routine and recommendations will be

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approved in one motion unless a member
of the city council requests separate

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discussion. Okay. Would any council
member like to pull an item for separate

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discussion?

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Okay. I see none. Do I have a motion to
approve the consent agenda? Yes,

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» mayor. I will motion to approve.
>> Do I have a second?

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» I second. Okay. Let's vote.

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Motion passes by a vote of 5-0.

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Next item.
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business. Our next item is new business
item A. Review Veterans Memorial

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Conceptual Designs and provide direction
to staff and landscape architect David

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Boltz design creative. Community
services director Perez will make the

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staff presentation.

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Good evening, mayor and members of the
city council. We are very excited

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tonight to be bringing you um the
conceptual designs for the Veterans

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Memorial. Um I know this is an item that
is near and dear to all of your hearts

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to the point that you all want to be on
the committee. So, I appreciate that and

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we look forward to presenting these to
you tonight.

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Uh, just to give you a little bit of
introduction in terms of where we have

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come this far or thus far, uh, in July
2024, the city council approved the

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recommended location for the placement
of the Veterans Memorial in Plaza Park.

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And then then a year later in July 2025,
the city council approved an agreement

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with landscape architect David Voltz
design creative um DVDC, we'll call them

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for short, uh for the development of the
conceptual designs, and they will be

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presenting the designs tonight. So staff
and the team are are pleased to present

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the two conceptual designs um that will
come before you and tonight we are

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seeking u council's feedback and
direction on those designs. Uh a few

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more details. Um so following the the
approval of the uh the agreement with

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DVDC
um staff met with the team to discuss

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the planned approach and then in
September 2025 we held a community

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meeting at Plaza Park. So at the site of
the future memorial uh veterans any

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community members were open were welcome
to come to that meeting and that was an

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opportunity to meet with the architect.
um architect presented some designs of

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former um memorials that they have done
for other agencies and then it provided

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an opportunity for the veterans and
those attending to speak with the team

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directly which was good. Uh and then in
mid November um DVDC provided the two

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draft conceptual designs. Uh at that
time staff met with the mission church

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and public works to gather any thoughts
or concerns about the designs and I'll

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let you know that none no concerns were
expressed at that time. Um and then um

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DVDC presented the concepts to the St.
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separate meeting and that was held in
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And then uh following that meeting, the
the Veterans Memorial Coalition met with

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their group to discuss their preferred
design and ed any edits that they would

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like to see. And uh following the
presentation of the conceptual designs

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tonight, we will um let you know the um
design that the Veterans Memorial

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Coalition has selected or would like to
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proposed for those designs as well. Um,
so now I would like to turn it over to

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Gary Vasquez who is the director of
design from DVDC and he will be

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presenting the designs and he's also the
designer of the designs. So I'll turn

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that over to him

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just right arrow.
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Uh, thank you and uh, good evening. Uh I
am uh a landscape architect with DVD

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Creative. Uh as um
uh Rebecca has mentioned, I'm happy

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tonight to share with you the two
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well as the Veterans Coalition to uh
people in the audience. To the right of

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me is the first option, option one, and
to the left of me is the uh second

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option, option two. Uh before I get into
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uh to each of the designs, let's see,
let me get this. There you go. Um

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uh in meeting with the coalition early,
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feedback in terms of what were some of
the elements they definitely wanted to

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see in the memorial. Uh for example, uh
they definitely wanted to obviously have

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a list of all the veterans of San
Gabriel. uh they wanted to recognize or

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display the six branches of the military
service, the Army, Marine, uh Air Force,

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Navy, Coast Guard, and Space Force. Um
they wanted to recognize three gentlemen

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of the community, uh that were soldiers,
veterans, um Reineer, Mr. Reineer Agiri,

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I believe, won a Purple Heart or
received a Purple Heart and Mr. Ferman

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Del Rosa. uh and a person by the name of
Mr. uh General George Patton

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uh and and uh another element they
wanted to consider rec uh showcasing is

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maybe a statue of the fallen what they
call the fallen soldier uh battlefield

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cross statue or sculpture.
Uh and there is also a USS Mission San

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Gabriel which is a tanker ship that was
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to the US soldiers and our allies in
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Um so these are some of the things that
when you look at both concepts, you're

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going to find these elements in each of
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Uh the slide that is up right now just
kind of points out the approximate

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location is where uh it was decided to
put the memorial. Uh to the um up above

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you can see the mission and then we're
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So this is our first option.
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because of the proximity to the mission
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architecture that you see not just in
the mission but some of the the

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buildings that uh are clear close by. Uh
we wanted to respect that architecture

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and some of the details that you see
that are shared in a Spanish colonial um

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uh structure. This one is our first shot
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form of a bell tower. And this bell
tower stands approximately

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uh 20 ft in height. And it would be
tiered in a way where it would be

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constructed out of stone and tiered up.
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that I had mentioned previously,
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uh, we would use both the bell tower and
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tower would be would, uh, be two
separate, uh, walls that would recognize

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the men and women, the veterans of the,
uh, uh, service uh, that provided

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service. Um, let me It's a little hard
to see in plan view and I'll go to the

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next slide and you'll kind of see we we
did some modeling to kind of create more

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of a a vision of what we saw there. But
there are just so you know, there are

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existing trees, pine tree, uh, palm
trees there, uh, a nice large uh,

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California pepper tree and all these
existing um, trees on site. we wanted to

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work around and we wanted to again keep
them uh in the design and um this walk

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that you see above is the main existing
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And we thought if we could just kind of
link those two together so people can

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kind of move from the street into the
park would be a nice a nice um feature

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as as part of this memorial. But the
main feature here is the tower. And I'm

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going to go to the next slide. So we de
developed a few elevations to kind of

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give you a better idea. The elevation C
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main tower, bell tower in the middle.
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terrace up, step up in a way. We'd have
these different terraces where we can

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incorporate maybe a planter to soften
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we were trying to incorporate some of
the mission sandstone rock look. Um the

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bell tower itself, we see opportunity to
display the uh six branches of the

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service. And then flanked by the to the
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would be the wall that we would display
and recognize the men and women uh

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veterans of St. Gabriel. the the there
would be large columns as you can see um

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uh to the right and left uh where we
would also design in a recess cove um

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where we could incorporate possibly the
uh fallen soldier battlefield uh cross

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statue. Um there was some mention about
recognizing nurses also military nurses

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and that could be incorporated on the
other column as well. Um, and these were

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designed in a way where there's there's
the main front as you see in elevation

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C, but there's also a backside so people
can kind of uh take advantage of of both

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sides and experience some of the
information of the memorial. on the back

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side as you see elevation A, we would um
possibly incorporate a relief of the USS

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Mission uh San Gabriel uh on one side.
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if you on your way up, you it would
transition from the rock to a, uh,

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smooth kind of, uh, mission stucco, if
you will, smooth stucco that would

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reflect the finish that you see adj on
the mission that's, um, right across the

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the crosswalk there. So, it goes from a
kind of a a rough rock texture and as

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you work up to the top of the bell
tower, it transitions to a smooth stucco

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um where we'd have like a a flag uh not
a flag on top of that, but a a

411
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:14,000
decorative cap. And these caps that you
see on these columns here, uh if you

412
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:18,640
take a close look at the mission St.
Gabriel, these are some of the details

413
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:23,760
of the column caps that you see on the
mission themselves. So, we tried to pick

414
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:29,040
up some of the details uh that were
adjacent to that are on the mission that

415
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:33,839
we can incorporate into this memorial
design. So, we'd have some bench seating

416
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:39,680
as you can see and some of the modeling
that we did to the right

417
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:44,480
and you can kind of get an idea of how
people would maybe move around in this

418
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:51,480
particular design. move around the
column and around the uh memorial walls

419
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,480
themselves.

420
00:38:53,839 --> 00:39:01,680
So that was the first option. The second
option

421
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:07,920
was really um inspired I think by uh
taking a closer look at the mission San

422
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Gabriel. In the gardens of mission St.
Gabriel, they have a uh a pergola, a

423
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:21,680
garden pergola.
And in this 2D in this plan view vision,

424
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:26,720
you we have this pergola that straddles
the the main sidewalk through the park

425
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:32,880
as well as a sidewalk along the street.
And in this case, we were thinking that

426
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:40,880
this pergola could be a very nice
feature um to connect one side of

427
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:47,119
memorial to another. And we wanted
people to kind of walk through this

428
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:52,640
space more as a as you would possibly a
museum, if you will. Obviously, this

429
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:59,520
would be outdoors. Uh but you would be
walking under a pergola structure.

430
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:03,920
And on each side of the pergola, uh,
between the columns, you would have the

431
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,839
main towers. You see the dash line in
the middle. That would be the main

432
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,839
memorial. And I'll I'll give you a
better idea of what that looks like in a

433
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:18,240
minute. But it also provides space to
display

434
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:23,040
uh statue of the fallen uh soldier
battlecross.

435
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:28,960
Um uh recognizing some of the nurses. We
have some ideas that the coalition

436
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:39,040
provided us with with um to incorporate
um recognizing the nurses uh as well as

437
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:44,960
the USS uh St. Gabriel uh ship.
Uh both concepts I forgot to mention she

438
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:50,400
had two particular had two uh flag
poles. uh after their second meeting

439
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:55,760
with the coalition and staff, it was
decided maybe just one flag pole would

440
00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:00,560
be enough. And uh you can't you probably
can't see it's that number six there

441
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:06,040
that u shows the location of the flag
poles. So and I'll go to the next slide.

442
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:17,359
So the above elevation elevation A is
kind of looking from the grassy area.

443
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:26,000
Um, and this would be what we would
consider the front of the memorial. And

444
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:31,680
the wall spans between the columns, if
you will. And it also offers um there is

445
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:37,040
space where you people can walk under
the pergola and then through the other

446
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:43,040
side towards the open park and be in the
front side of this monument. In the

447
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:51,520
center of the wall there, you see a
space to recognize the men and veterans

448
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:56,880
uh the men and women. Uh on the uh left
side of that wall would be the space

449
00:41:53,839 --> 00:42:02,560
where we would uh display the six
branches of the military.

450
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:10,079
And on the right side, uh there's a
column there that would be the space

451
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:14,079
where we would honor the three men. And
I was just I was told this evening that

452
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:20,079
there would be possibly five people,
five men that um would be recognized on

453
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:25,680
that particular column.
So again, this is also uh designed in a

454
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:31,040
way where you could have uh a pergola
structure with vines kind of growing

455
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:36,720
columns that are um pick up the Spanish
colonial architecture as well as the

456
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:42,960
decorative caps that reflect some of the
detailing on the mission itself.

457
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Um but it's again something that can be
viewed and experienced uh from both

458
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:55,599
sides. And if you look at the lower
right hand photo, the model that kind of

459
00:42:52,400 --> 00:43:02,560
gives you an idea of the feeling that um
we were trying to achieve in that

460
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:10,319
particular uh image uh would be actually
the backside. Um, and the coalition also

461
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:15,520
has some quotes that they would like to
include uh in the memorial itself and we

462
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:21,680
feel like that might be a good spot to
to do that. We'd also have plaques also

463
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:26,720
I forgot to mention to recognize of
course the sponsors and some of the key

464
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:32,160
stakeholders of the memorial that have
um put the hard work in in getting it uh

465
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:39,200
to this point. Anyway,
so uh let's see. It also have benches,

466
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:45,359
places to sit, uh both in front of the
the memorial wall as well as behind the

467
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:50,640
memorial wall. Um the flag poles you can
see in the upper right would be on the

468
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:56,000
right hand side of the column. And we in
both concepts, we wanted a space where

469
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:59,839
people could walk around it, get up to
it close, kind of feel, you know, if

470
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:06,000
they wanted to touch the wall, they
could. Uh we wanted to incorporate

471
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:11,040
materials that reflect the uh Spanish
colonial architecture, which is this

472
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:16,000
kind of the smooth stucco and some of
the mission style rock that you see uh

473
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:19,680
in some of the other missions uh
throughout California.

474
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Um,
let's see that. And again, I didn't

475
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:30,560
mention the lights. Of course, both any
concepts we go with, we're going to

476
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:36,960
really design and highlight these
features at night. Um, so it wouldn't be

477
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:43,599
dark. It would be a pretty
uh it is an open space. It's part of a,

478
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:48,240
you know, public park. And um so what we
would you know make sure we do is make

479
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:55,200
sure that the design elements can hold
up to uh some of the abuse that parks

480
00:44:51,599 --> 00:45:01,520
generally uh have to have touh deal
with. Um

481
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:07,280
let's see. So with that I'm going to
turn it back over to Rebecca and um

482
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:10,280
after that I'll be happy to answer any
questions.

483
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,599
Thank you, Gary. Um, moving forward, we
did want to um tell you, as we

484
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:30,480
indicated, the Veterans Memorial
Coalition met with uh Dave David Volt's

485
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:36,079
team, and we had a meeting with staff
and the um architect team. Um the

486
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:41,839
members of the coalition then met and
decided that they prefer design concept

487
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:46,960
2 and they have um the following edits
that they've proposed for council's

488
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:52,319
consideration. Um they would like to see
a decrease in the height of the two

489
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:57,280
towers. I will read these and then I'll
go back to the designs. Uh place the

490
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:01,920
benches further back from the memorial
so that there is additional space when

491
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:07,200
events are held. uh have the arch of the
monument be more rounded than pointy.

492
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:12,079
And then on the opposite side of statue
A, the fallen um soldier battlefield

493
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:18,079
cross, as Gary alluded to, they would
like to see a statue of a military nurse

494
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:22,560
with the nursing symbol. Um
some more um edits that they proposed on

495
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,480
top of the memorial where the veterans
names will be, it should have the title

496
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:30,000
St. Gabriel Veterans.
um they'd like to add additional

497
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:33,839
information about the three veterans
they would like to highlight. And I I'll

498
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:38,480
say, Gary, that's the first I've heard
of it now being five um individuals that

499
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,720
they'd like to recognize. So that's the
first I'm hearing of that. Um and that

500
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:48,240
they would like to add the quotation for
the monument um at some location on the

501
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:52,400
memorial, the soldier above all others
prays for peace, for it is the soldier

502
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:57,920
who must suffer and bear the deepest
wounds and scars of war. And that's from

503
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:02,000
General Douglas MacArthur. Um and then
identified

504
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:08,160
uh this is just for the veterans names.
The uh contact and and this is what

505
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:14,400
Denise provided to the um architect is
that the the veteran's contact for that

506
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:23,200
is Denise Scotch. Um so those those are
the changes. I can go back to the

507
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:27,359
design. So
I think this is the best way to see it.

508
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:32,400
So the the tow the two towers if you
will they're suggesting lower those

509
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:37,119
they're suggesting rounding the design
rather than having it kind of that

510
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:44,240
pointed coming to a point. Um they're
suggesting opposite of a which is the

511
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:49,359
battlefield cross having the nursing um
the nursing statue

512
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,880
and and designate there. And then um as
Gary mentioned, possibly on that back

513
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,960
side of the wall. So that's at the
bottom lower right on the on the screen

514
00:47:55,359 --> 00:48:01,280
that that would be potentially where
they would place a quote.

515
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Um
so I think that covers primarily the

516
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:11,200
changes that they're uh requesting, but
they did decide that they prefer design

517
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,119
too. So tonight we are looking for
council's direction. We're not looking

518
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,760
for approval of either of these designs.
We're looking for council's direction

519
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:26,319
for both for staff and for them the the
architect team so that they can go back

520
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:30,559
and the proposed the plan would be that
if council were to provide direction

521
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:34,800
that is adequate for staff to move
forward and the architect team to move

522
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:41,920
forward. They could then come back with
a proposed design either implementing

523
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,920
changes or edits that council has um
implementing the changes that the

524
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:50,079
Veterans Memorial Coalition has and
andor a meld of the two designs if you

525
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:54,880
prefer that and then we would have a
final design for your review at a future

526
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,520
date.
So I am happy to answer any questions

527
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:04,960
and as is Gary if you have any questions
of the architect.

528
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:11,280
» Great. Thank you, Rebecca. Um, before we
ask for the public comment, are there

529
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:16,960
any factual questions for staff um from
council? If not, we can proceed. Oh,

530
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:24,160
okay. Council member Ravila.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, for design, the

531
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:31,160
first option one. So, is the I see a
bell there. Is the is the bell can we

532
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,160
ring the bell or no?

533
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:36,720
Um,
>> or is it just decorative?

534
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,319
» Is that a clarifying question or can I
turn it over to Gary? Okay.

535
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,319
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

536
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:50,240
» Uh, yeah, I think we could design it so
you can actually ring this bell. So,

537
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:55,520
» yeah. Thank you.
>> Can be designed for that. Yes.

538
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:59,920
» And then for for option two, there's no
bell, right? Is that correct?

539
00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:04,800
» Correct. No bell. And then for the
plants that you guys are proposing to

540
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:10,079
have there on the on the pergula, what
what kind of plants are you proposing to

541
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:16,079
have? Plants, vines, things like that.
Um, well, we would want to to probably

542
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:22,160
use a lot of drought tolerant water wise
type plant material on the the pergola

543
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:27,599
itself. Um, I could see, you know, we
haven't specifically

544
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:32,880
chosen a specific plant, but you know, a
California grape vine or wisteria,

545
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,599
something like that would work, I think,
really nice and look really nice on this

546
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:43,599
uh pergola. I believe there might be
some it's I might I believe it's the

547
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:49,720
wisteria vine that's growing on the the
uh pergola on the uh mission property.

548
00:50:50,160 --> 00:51:00,720
Is there in the last qu clarifying
question on option two I see uh six

549
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:07,359
pillars and is there a reason why six
pillars?

550
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:10,720
» Uh I believe the six let's see two four
>> I'm not sure which pillars you're

551
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:15,359
referring to.
>> There's six branches.

552
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:21,040
» Oh okay. Okay. Okay. There's actually
those are columns and there are columns

553
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:25,359
that support the pergola structure. Um
there's actually you see six in the

554
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:32,800
front and there'd be six in the back as
well. Um again you can walk underneath

555
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:39,839
the structure. Uh the structure I see
would be about 12 feet in width. Uh

556
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:48,800
those columns would be probably spaced
10 feet apart, something like that. Um

557
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:52,400
uh the column heights I see possibly
10 feet 10 and 1/2 ft in height

558
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:57,200
something like that.
>> Okay. Thank you.

559
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:02,559
» Any other clarifying questions? Council
member Whoop.

560
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:08,240
» Thank you mayor. Um you know for for a
person who is more than um you know 50

561
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:12,559
and plus it's really hard for me to read
that but I still able to read the

562
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,200
sentence. I just want to make sure one
things. Um, could you please provide a

563
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:22,400
little bit more detail? What do you mean
by memorial sponsors and coalition

564
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:29,040
members? I know coalition members, but
what is memorial sponsor here?

565
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:34,480
» Um, well, it it's just um we wanted to
make sure that there's going to be some

566
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:40,720
plaque to recognize the people that made
this all happen. city council obviously

567
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:48,160
uh the coalition members behind me I
imagine would want to um be recognized

568
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:50,880
um if there's any sponsors uh you know
maybe they would also like to be

569
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:57,040
recognized that's all
>> got it and I'm very drawn to concept too

570
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:03,040
and I really appreciate it you know the
you know the the design and landscape

571
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:07,839
but I um you mentioned there is a
architectural illumination Right. Is

572
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,200
there a lighting things during the
nighttime

573
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,559
» that will be reflecting the the whole
monument?

574
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:18,240
» Yes. I mean, obviously in these uh where
we're at in the design, we haven't

575
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:23,839
gotten into the lighting design, but
part of part of this would be looking at

576
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:28,960
how this gets lit up at night and
illuminated at night. We just don't want

577
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:33,520
a dark corridor there, obviously. And
and you want you want things lit up.

578
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:38,960
This is a veterans memorial, I imagine.
you want things highlighted. Um, in this

579
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,880
case with the pergola, you're underneath
the pergola. There's probably going to

580
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:49,119
be some kind of accent lighting to take
advantage of what we do on the rear side

581
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:54,000
of these walls. So, you you want to
highlight those. You might want to

582
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:59,839
highlight the any kind of sculptures or
uh um statues that get incorporated in

583
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:05,440
this in this designs for So, that's what
I was just trying to get at. It it'll be

584
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:13,440
it'll be we will have to design a
lighting um plan that um I think

585
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:16,880
complements and really highlights these
elements.

586
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:22,559
» Right. I I I realized actually the the
lighting that a a good design on

587
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:27,839
lighting that will be elevate the whole
quality of the whole monument.

588
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:32,480
» Right. So will you provide additional on
top of this plan uh with a lighting

589
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:37,040
plan?
>> Yes. Oh, correct. Yeah. Okay. When we

590
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:41,920
get into the construction drawings for
this lighting, a lighting design will be

591
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,359
part of the the plan. I see
>> or part of the design.

592
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:47,839
» So, mayor, today we are just talk about
the design, nothing else, right?

593
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:52,319
» Okay.
>> No vote. This is the first time, just so

594
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:57,280
the public knows, this is the first time
that council is looking at the design

595
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:00,960
and I agree with you. That was my first
comment to Mark is I can't see this very

596
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,960
well.
>> You're over 50.

597
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:08,800
» Much over. Yeah.
So, um, so anyway, so I do appreciate

598
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:13,119
it. That's why I kept turning because I
could see it better this way. Right.

599
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Yeah. This is the first time, but more
to come because we've already heard

600
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,400
eight different changes from these
designs. So,

601
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,440
» right,
>> we'll have another round here.

602
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:26,720
» Okay, that's all I have. Thank you,
mayor. Thank you.

603
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:33,359
» And I just had just a couple clarifying
questions because they apply to both. Um

604
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:39,280
the first item is are these designs made
in such a way that it will um it has

605
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:43,440
room for growth? So this is supposed to
be for generations and I can't again you

606
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,400
know right
>> my mind here isn't uh it's hard with

607
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:54,799
these designs.
>> Is there an opportunity to continue to

608
00:55:51,200 --> 00:56:02,160
add you know for for 50 years 100 years
or we have to add a whole another

609
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:08,720
» there will be room to add names to this
monument uh to this memorial. Um,

610
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,960
we're still trying to come up with the
the count. So, we don't really know

611
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:19,680
exactly how many names are going to be
going on here. Uh, once we do, we can we

612
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:24,480
can figure out how many how many names
we can get on each wall or where the

613
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,040
where, you know, where we decide these
names will go.

614
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:32,000
» So, there will be empty walls
>> there possibly. Well, you could h you

615
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:38,400
could have empty walls or you could just
have it if if the names go on a bronze

616
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:44,720
kind of uh plaque. Um you could just
have a black a blank plaque there. But

617
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:47,040
so it wouldn't look empty is what I'm
saying.

618
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:51,119
» Yeah. Because we're going to have a you
know this number is going to have to be

619
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:54,960
you know we have to come up with a
number but it's going to continue

620
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,760
growing. So, as long as we have empty
walls, we can add,

621
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,400
» you know, every year, every two years.
But

622
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:07,440
» we we would design this memorial where
you would be able to add uh additional

623
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,799
names to the wall. For sure.
>> Okay. Yeah.

624
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:15,119
» Without having to create another like
wall.

625
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:18,960
» No. Um but again, you want to plan
ahead. So,

626
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:23,599
» Okay. So, as long as there's there's a
plan to Yeah. to add more. I mean, I'm

627
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:28,480
envisioning,
>> you know, a lot more names.

628
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:34,240
» I imagine there will be a lot more names
you'd want to add. How many again? Um,

629
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,200
you could, you know, I I don't have a
specific number of

630
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,640
» That's okay. I I just want to make sure
there's a some foresight here because

631
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:44,640
all of us,
>> you know, will not be here, you know, in

632
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,040
the future. And I want to make sure that
next generation,

633
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:53,680
» you know, uh, treasures this continues
with the work. We don't need to be here.

634
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,839
It should kind of stand on its own.
>> And then just one more clarifying

635
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:02,799
question. Um, you know, the lights are
great, but I I get very concerned with

636
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:10,079
security. You know, is there going to be
a security system of some sort? because

637
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:13,200
unfortunately I can see um some kind of
you know uh what do you call it?

638
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,359
» Vandalism.
>> Vandalism. Thank you.

639
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,040
» I'm not saying I'm saying
>> yeah vandalism taking place.

640
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:24,079
Unfortunately, I mean we see the
graffiti taking place and you know we go

641
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:31,359
out there we have actually a company
dedicated to removing this the graffiti.

642
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:36,799
How can we protect this uh monument if
it's so open? Um and and rightfully so.

643
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,920
It should be open because it's for
everybody.

644
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,119
» Yeah.
>> Um and it and it has a beautiful feel to

645
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:48,480
it. It does remind me of the mission
with the uh the vines. I mean, it's

646
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:51,280
almost exact, I think, with the vines
that they have. But how do we protect

647
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:56,000
this?
>> Well, a lot of it is the selection of

648
00:58:53,599 --> 00:59:03,200
materials that we use to construct it.
Um there are uh anti-graffiti sealers

649
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:09,680
that we would apply to over the finishes
that go on and on onto the memorial, the

650
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:18,079
columns, the rock work, uh even the
benches. Um of course, cameras and um

651
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:23,359
you know, lighting. I think I think uh
uh when things tend to be well lit um

652
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:28,559
and if you see cameras around that
that's a pretty good deterrent also. Um

653
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:31,200
we would discuss this with city staff in
terms of how they

654
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:36,400
» our police in particular because I know
they have a lot of strategies.

655
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:40,160
» Yeah. And the location of this memorial
is

656
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:45,760
» obviously located close to the street.
Um uh and you know, you can just drive

657
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:52,400
by and take a quick glance and see if
there's people someone hanging out

658
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:57,440
there. The way the way it's angled um
you know, you can be driving, you can

659
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:02,559
drive through the park on the main uh uh
sidewalk as well, but it'd be pretty I

660
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,400
think pretty easily to spot something
going on underneath that. Yeah, because

661
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,880
initially when you started the
presentation, you mentioned how or I

662
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:19,319
think it was Rebecca that you've talked
to staff and no one had any comments.

663
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:19,319
So, I'd like to our uh first resp

664
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:26,079
um to participate and and maybe there's
something they're seeing that will keep

665
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:30,960
it safe, especially if you're going to
have those vines. I can I can see fire

666
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:35,839
taking place. um you know it's the
extreme I know but you know if there's

667
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:40,720
better ways of doing it to prevent that
type of whether it's vandalism or fire

668
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:44,880
um you know we should know that upfront
and the security system I mean that

669
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:48,079
would be an additional expense that the
city would absorb

670
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,240
» which is you know I'm comfortable with
but we need to have it as part of the

671
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:53,440
plan
>> right

672
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:58,400
» so so that's all I had for now I'd
really like to get to public comment so

673
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,040
thank you so much okay uh city clerk
chief city clerk I I think uh Councilman

674
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,440
Ding.
>> Oh, you had a question.

675
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,040
» I have I have a quick
>> Yeah, you you're first.

676
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,160
» Okay. Okay.
>> So, you didn't

677
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,799
watch me.
>> I was watching. Nobody said anything.

678
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:17,520
» Um no, Ju just quick uh uh clarification
question about the the design. uh uh and

679
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:24,960
I don't know if this has been decided
yet, but uh in the designer's mind,

680
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:30,960
were we looking at uh having separate
sections per like for a separate section

681
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:35,599
for each branch? Is it what I'm saying?
Or are we just putting the seal of each

682
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:41,760
branch and then just adding names?
>> Right. I I think I think uh the idea so

683
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:49,280
far is that each um a seal that rep that
recognizes each branch of the military

684
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:52,720
would be uh displayed. Um how the you
know we still need to work out the

685
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,559
details with the coalition how they want
the names displayed.

686
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,880
» Okay.
>> So that hasn't been

687
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,559
» that has not been decided.
>> Okay. Just curious. I thank you. I

688
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:06,160
yield. Council member D.
>> Yeah. So, so the clear question it's

689
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:11,040
today just like just two option. Option
one, option two. So for your future

690
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:18,240
design direction, right? Right. Right.
So the future design you have to more

691
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:25,440
detail you uh provide us or just pro uh
also will be discuss Gabriel

692
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:30,960
the the their organization and uh I saw
you also consult with the mission

693
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:34,559
church of mission.
>> Yes. Yes I believe

694
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:40,960
» so staff has talked to them
>> and clarify it's not go through the the

695
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:49,119
planning commission right. It's just
uh the cooperate with the the memorial

696
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:53,760
corion and and the and the mission the
church of mission that's my

697
01:02:50,880 --> 01:03:00,880
understanding is that correct then
finally come to our the city council to

698
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:03,760
see the more detailed information design
mean

699
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:08,079
» thank you councilman ding uh you're
correct it does not need to go to any of

700
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:11,760
the commissions the council could opt to
send it to one of the commissions if you

701
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:14,000
like, but ultimately it's up to the city
council.

702
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,200
» We don't even have to accept the
veterans coalition input if you don't

703
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:22,160
want. I'm not suggesting that, but
ultimately it's this um body's decision

704
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:25,839
on what that looks like.
>> I think the coalition's been extremely

705
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:30,480
helpful and I think they have good
ideas. So, I I can't see that happening.

706
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:35,920
» Um what we're looking for tonight is
exactly what you said, some um input on

707
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:43,039
the designs. if there was a possibility
that we all um meaning you all liked one

708
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:47,119
design over the other and we had that
direction that would be helpful and the

709
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:52,160
design team would then come back with
different modifications depending on

710
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:55,839
what they hear. So for example um they
would come back with a with what it

711
01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:00,319
might look like to have shorter columns
with rounded tops versus what's in there

712
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:04,319
now allowing you all to make that
decision of which one you like better.

713
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:07,039
And I'd say that as an example for any
of the other changes you might be asking

714
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:12,079
for.
>> So today we don't need a vote but uh we

715
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:18,079
it looks like uh later on we discuss
which one option we want like currently

716
01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:24,559
I think the corision already suggest the
option two. So for the for the like

717
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:29,599
deliberation so we just like maybe we
can consider what what kind of element

718
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:33,200
what kind of detail should be for the
future design. Is that correct? That's

719
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,720
correct. It would be very helpful if we
could get to one of the two options, but

720
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:42,640
not necessary.
>> Okay. So, for the the later down the

721
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:47,680
deliberation, it's based on the option
one or option two to talking about

722
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:53,440
» it. It could be. I mean, that would be
the the fastest method to get to a final

723
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:58,000
design, but I don't want to pigeon hole
the council or rush you all.

724
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,559
» When you hear what the coalition has to
say, okay?

725
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:04,000
» And then when you hear what each other's
of you have to say,

726
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:07,920
» if there's consensus or it seems like
there's consensus, we can move forward

727
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:11,680
with that direction. We wouldn't need to
vote, but we can give

728
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:16,400
» the architect that direction. If you
need further refinement on both of these

729
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:22,720
to come up with that decision, the
design team is happy to do that as well.

730
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:28,240
» Okay. Even just both the design so they
can provide a more detail. Is it is is

731
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:32,960
it correct or because you say we don't
need like a vote for which one

732
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:38,319
» option we need to go for
>> again unless there is a a consensus if

733
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:42,319
everybody feels like option one is the
right option for example or option two

734
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,920
is the right option that would save time
if we came up with that but again I

735
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:48,720
don't want to push you towards that if
that's not where we're ready to go

736
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:51,280
tonight but I think if we hear what
everybody has to say from the public and

737
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,359
the council
>> it might become clear whether we need

738
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,480
more refinement of both of them or just
one of them.

739
01:05:56,559 --> 01:06:00,240
» Okay. All right. Thank you, Mark. Thank
you, Mia.

740
01:05:59,359 --> 01:06:04,400
» Thank you.
>> If if I could just add one one point to

741
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:10,960
that, if you'll recall when the
architect uh originally presented um

742
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:15,119
when we approved moving forward with the
architect, they indicated that

743
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:20,160
oftentimes they have groups that for
example would have some design elements

744
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:24,799
from option one, some design elements
from option two, and would like to have

745
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:30,160
those blended together. So again, like
Mark said, if it's not either one or

746
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:34,400
two, it could be potentially, you know,
we like this element from from option

747
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,480
one and we'd like to see that as part of
option two. So I think they are very

748
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,559
familiar with that with all of the
memorials that they've worked on.

749
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:46,480
» Thank you.
That's that's good. More flexible to

750
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:52,160
Yeah. Sometime some maybe element it's
from option one. It's a really good fit

751
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:58,400
in out option two. So I I like this
idea, you know. Yeah. Maybe cooperate

752
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:02,160
with the our like uh
>> it would be better if we can narrow it

753
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:05,599
down. I think that's my opinion because
if we keep going back and forth, we're

754
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,880
never going to get it done. So Okay.
Hopefully

755
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:11,920
» for the by by the end we can kind of go
one

756
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,240
» deliberation we can. Yep. Right. Okay.
Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Mayor.

757
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,319
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Now we'll go to public comments.

758
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:20,640
Chief city clerk, do we have any public
comment?

759
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:25,160
» We do, madame mayor. Our first speaker
is Teresa Olivas Justiniani.

760
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:39,119
Good evening madame mayor, city council
members and staff. My name is Terresa

761
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:43,599
Levasani and I am one of the founding
directors of the San Gabriel Veterans

762
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:48,640
Memorial Coalition and I'm here tonight
to share what this monument truly means

763
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:53,680
to my family and me. One of the honores
whose name will be placed on this

764
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:59,200
monument is Ferman Delar Roa Jr. To many
he may be a name etched in stone but to

765
01:07:56,319 --> 01:08:05,359
us he was such much more. Ferman was a
son, a brother, an uncle, a cousin, a

766
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:10,640
father, a grandfather, and a friend. But
to me, he was my uncle Jr. My uncle Jr.

767
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:15,680
volunteered to serve his country during
the Vietnam War. He grew up here

768
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:19,440
attending Lincoln school, Sanger High
School, and later worked as a male

769
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:23,920
carrier with the United States Post
Service here in North San Gabriel. He

770
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:29,359
was a part of this community long before
his service and remained a part of it

771
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:34,799
long after. San Gabriel helped shape who
he was and he carried that sense of

772
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:38,960
service in everything he did. For my
family, this monument is not just about

773
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:44,159
remembering the past. It's about
honoring a life of love, service, and

774
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:49,359
sacrifice. It's about giving future
generations a place to learn that the

775
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:54,159
people we honor were real people with
families

776
01:08:51,440 --> 01:09:00,960
who love them and miss them. It's also
special to me that my grandfather, my

777
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:06,159
husband, my godfather, my uncle's name
will also be placed on this monument.

778
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:11,440
Our family would also like to thank our
former president Daniel Tovar and former

779
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:16,080
vice president Lily Groots for the
vision of the Veterans Memorial

780
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:20,640
Monument. Although Lily did not live to
see her vision come to life, her heart

781
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:25,920
and dedication are present in this
project and her impact will live on

782
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:31,120
through this memorial monument. We are
deeply grateful that the city has stood

783
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:36,239
behind us with this dream of the
Veterans Monument. a permanent tribute

784
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:41,359
to sacrifice bravery and a space for a
reflection, healing, and connections for

785
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:44,960
families like mine. This monument means
that our loved ones will never be

786
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:49,120
forgotten and that our service will
always be honored. Thank you for

787
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:53,319
allowing me to share what this monument
means to my entire family.

788
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:01,640
» The next speaker is Michael A.
Cervantes.

789
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:13,360
My name is Michael Cervantes and I serve
as the president for the veterans

790
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:21,280
coalition.
It has been a long journey for the

791
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:29,280
group. Um over six years that they've
been working on this project. Um it's

792
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:36,080
not been an easy journey. It has had it
has had its challenges.

793
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:42,560
It has had hardships.
We've had members who have worked on

794
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:51,280
this
almost day by day trying to see it come

795
01:10:47,840 --> 01:11:00,560
together as something that was a dream
to something that's concrete. Okay.

796
01:10:55,040 --> 01:11:06,640
Um we have now almost I believe close to
400 names of veterans.

797
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:14,000
And the thing is that as we think that
we are complete with the number of

798
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:22,400
veterans, we have more people who state
I served. I was in the armed forces and

799
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:29,920
I am now a veteran and I want to see my
name or my family member name who was a

800
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:35,760
veteran on that wall. We have people who
have served since before World War I to

801
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:41,520
the present.
And

802
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:46,080
fortunately or unfortunately,
we'll still have veterans in the future.

803
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:51,440
So that means we're going to have more
names

804
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:56,080
in years to come.
Ideally, one day

805
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:00,080
there won't be any more names. There
won't be any need to have more names.

806
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:05,199
But
in reality that's going to still happen.

807
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:10,159
Um
we are thinking that

808
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:17,600
um
there'll be like a stage area uh by the

809
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:24,960
by the monument. So it will serve as a
place for a presentation for such events

810
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:30,400
as Veterans Day, Memorial Day or any
other particular event that happens in

811
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:35,920
that area where people can gather
together and not only will they be there

812
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:41,199
for that event, but they'll be there to
see the monument as well.

813
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:48,960
We're also considering that since we
have at least 400 names, um we're

814
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:58,239
looking at a at a font that is seraps,
not non nonsense there, but serif fonts.

815
01:12:53,760 --> 01:13:04,960
We're looking to see them to be anywhere
from 3/4 to an inch in height.

816
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:10,640
Um we want them to be recognized and we
don't want the names to be so

817
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:16,080
so small that people will say, "Well,
who's that name there?" So, please keep

818
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:20,520
those in mind and we only hope for the
best in the future. Thank you,

819
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:28,960
» Madame Mayor. I have no more speaker
cards.

820
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:32,679
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Oh, we

821
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:43,360
» uh Rebecca went over the corrections
that we had, but I wanted to kind of go

822
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:49,040
over why we did that. My father's name
will be on there also, and my mother

823
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:54,560
unfortunately won't be alive to see it.
So, as we wait here and to decide, I was

824
01:13:52,719 --> 01:14:01,040
hoping that today you would come to
possibly a conclusion between the two so

825
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:06,800
it could go on to the next uh phase
because as you see all these lovely

826
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:11,920
gentlemen that are here today, they're
hoping to see their names on the

827
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:18,159
monument
before hopefully they do not pass away.

828
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:23,679
And I know it's a long project. It takes
a long time when construction, building,

829
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:28,640
lighting. Uh I also mentioned I was
worried since it's open skateboarders

830
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:34,800
come in that area a lot to go in and out
to. There's a lot of aspects, graffiti,

831
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:39,520
lighting. I agree with you on all that.
Um and the reason why Rebecca, we have

832
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:45,520
five names. As you research all these
names, you find more heroes

833
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:50,400
amongst the veterans that should be
specifically honored that were born in

834
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:55,600
San Gabriel and did a lot and maybe got
more medals or stuff that the coalition

835
01:14:53,040 --> 01:15:01,120
goes through each name and we vote yes
that they need to be separate from the

836
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:06,159
whole group name to recognize those
specific. I'm sure you all are aware of

837
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:13,679
General Patton is one of them and Teresa
so eloquently mentioned her uncle is

838
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:19,600
also one of them. Um, the reason why we
picked uh that we want the monument in

839
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:24,320
certain sections to be round, we were
trying to look at that corner and you

840
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:28,960
also see the bells that are right there
and it's more round than pointy. And we

841
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:34,000
thought that would go
uh with the monument in this area, you

842
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:40,159
know, to be close by. You would see the
bells that are already there, the five,

843
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:44,320
the six that are there. Um, also the
benches to move a little further as

844
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:49,360
Michael so eloquently said because as
you're all there for every Veterans Day

845
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:54,159
and Memorial Day and you speak the
council in front of it, you want the

846
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:59,600
benches a little further away so you
have room to talk in that specific area

847
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:06,159
because that I'm assuming is going to be
the area that you continue to do

848
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:12,560
Veterans Day and Memorial Day. Um, and
specifically to say San Gabriel veterans

849
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:19,760
on top of the memorial so everyone knows
that if your name is on there, you did

850
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:24,320
live and were born in St. Gabriel. As to
separating the veterans,

851
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:31,280
you would have more of them for World
War II than you would have for World War

852
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:35,360
I or Civil War or Korea and Vietnam. And
that probably wouldn't look appropriate

853
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:40,400
that you have a whole bunch of names
here and only two or three there and

854
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:45,920
four or five, excuse me. So, we thought
we combine them all together to give the

855
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:53,199
respect and put them in alphabetical
order all together except those five

856
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:57,920
specific uh veterans that deserve the
special recognition.

857
01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:01,159
Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

858
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:10,320
Okay. Are there any other public
comments?

859
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:16,320
No. Okay. So, I'll close the public
comment and we will now start with

860
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:19,560
council u deliberation. Who would like
to start?

861
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:27,360
» Vice Mayor Chan.
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um okay. So um

862
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:33,679
thank you for the presentation first of
all and then second of all um just to

863
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:41,040
start with a disclaimer I have many
talents but uh visual artistry is not

864
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:46,320
one of them. So so I trust people who
are much more talented than I am at

865
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:53,040
this. Um but uh just
just kind of just off the top of my head

866
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:58,400
my gut feel I do like option two better.
just just the gut feel I have in terms

867
01:17:55,199 --> 01:18:05,679
of the aesthetics. Uh I tend to prefer
that one. And um let's see what else.

868
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:12,239
Oh, I guess in terms of uh placement and
and I know we were just kind of

869
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:16,640
discussing the basic uh art I mean the
the basic aesthetics right now. But just

870
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:23,600
something that popped in my mind when
Miss Goch was was talking just now that

871
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:31,679
in terms of uh placing the names
um in I think I would prefer uh a method

872
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:35,840
uh by date rather than alphabetical
because as time goes by you know we're

873
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:42,000
going to the the the lettering yeah all
the alphabetical is going to get all

874
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:45,920
mixed up. So I I would go time order if
you want to choose date of birth first

875
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:52,080
or date of death or you know that some
some date timeline uh to be the main

876
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:56,880
guide of how we're going to put the
names in order you know for the next

877
01:18:54,719 --> 01:19:00,960
hundred years or whatever it is. So
that's just my my comments at the

878
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:05,760
moment. So thank you. I yield.
>> Okay. I I I agree with that. That was

879
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:12,480
one of my questions is does it make
sense to have them inscribed or can you

880
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:16,080
have like a fancy like computer or
something where it keeps changing the

881
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:22,560
name so you can reorder them, but it
might not have that same wow kind of

882
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:27,440
feel to it. But I I agree with you. You
would we need to do something so all

883
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:31,199
these additional names don't look so
awkward because they're definitely going

884
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:34,000
to be out of alphabet of alphabetical
order.

885
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:39,760
That's why I was I think I agree with
you that uh we should consider date

886
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:44,960
order or some type of beginning or
ending date and then and then go kind of

887
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:49,760
in that order then so we can add more in
the future as they're needed and not

888
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:53,199
have to yeah rearrange. You can't
rejigger rocks that you

889
01:19:52,239 --> 01:19:58,159
» chiseled.
>> Yeah. I mean I know the the the chisel

890
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:01,360
is so much nicer and and so much more
respectful but

891
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:05,920
» unless we do Yeah. go to digital or
something and you can always rejigger

892
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:10,560
like like the the mission playhouse
poster board out there.

893
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,199
» Yeah, hopefully nicer nicer than that.
But yes,

894
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:16,960
» as real real stone, but anyway,
>> thank you. Mark, did you have a comment?

895
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:20,800
» I would just say that what I've seen in
other places is it's completely

896
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:25,600
randomized. So, you don't have that
problem of date and and coming later on.

897
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:31,040
And then what we can do that can kind of
bring the digital into whatever we we

898
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:35,840
bring forward is on a website we can
have a location for people to find the

899
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:40,000
names similar to what they do
>> at the Exactly. And so as names come on

900
01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:44,719
we wouldn't have to worry about where
they go. They would just go in the next

901
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:48,560
order and then um people would find
their loved ones that way.

902
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:53,040
One more thing, I'm sorry. Along those
same lines, I was thinking like with the

903
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:58,239
I think it's the Vietnam Memorial where
you know if if loved ones are going to

904
01:20:55,040 --> 01:21:03,600
go and and and see you know the their
fallen heroes, what kind of momento is

905
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:07,679
there um for them? And I know at the
Vietnam Memorial and probably other

906
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:13,920
memorials too, they're able to put a P.
Oh, the 911 my sister-in-law, you put

907
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:16,560
the paper and you charcoal or like
pencil and then you

908
01:21:14,719 --> 01:21:19,679
» because it really is because it really
is etched into the stone. So you

909
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:23,360
Exactly. But when it's on a digital
board, there's nothing there.

910
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:27,440
» Digitals are smart. We can do something.
>> You can have so we can do that or maybe

911
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:31,600
print or I don't know. But but something
along those lines like what are people

912
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:37,120
going to take back? And I guess they
could take a picture, but it is very

913
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:41,280
special um when you're able to do that.
>> And I'm I'm sorry, I don't think I

914
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:45,440
explained myself well. We would have
either chiseled in stone or brass

915
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,880
plaques or some sort of plaques that
would have it etched.

916
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:50,719
» Okay.
>> And each name would be individual and

917
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,719
lined up along there. And if it would
give us that room that um Gary was

918
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:58,960
talking about to add more names where I
was talking about the website would be

919
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,280
if somebody wanted to know where on that
plaque their family member was, you

920
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:07,600
could have a directory and unfortunately
bringing my own uh story into it. my

921
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:13,040
brother passed away and he's at the
peace officers memorial in Washington DC

922
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:18,320
and there is a telephone book
unfortunately sized um book of names and

923
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:22,080
so you those names are added all the
time as as um Michael Cervantes was

924
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:27,120
talking about hopefully we don't add
names but unfortunately to that it's

925
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:32,320
added you know daily and so you go to
the book that's there in the memorial to

926
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:36,960
find out it's alphabetical in the book
but your loved one's name might be on

927
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:41,679
panel four you spot eight. And so that's
the way that we could have a key or a

928
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:45,360
legend for where people's names are, but
you would add them over time as those

929
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:49,440
names happen. And then as you both had
pointed out, if you want a momento, you

930
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:54,639
bring a piece of paper and a crayon and
or or charcoal or what have you.

931
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,800
» Okay, great. Thank you. Sorry, Vice
Mayor. Was that

932
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:03,920
» Yes, that I yield. Thank you.
>> Okay, thank you. So option two is your

933
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:07,520
preference. Who would like to continue?
Council

934
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:15,320
member Herrera,
anybody?

935
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:15,320
» Okay, so I got a few things here. Um

936
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:24,480
I like option two,
but I also like option one. And the the

937
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:31,600
thing that I would like to carry from
option one is that significance of

938
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:35,679
having this like tower, right? Like when
you go to Washington DC, you have like

939
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:41,199
these great memorials. We have these
towers. I see the they're uh shaking

940
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:48,239
their head over there. But I would like
to see if we can incorporate

941
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:56,719
that tower with the bell tower
as part of option two. and and then also

942
01:23:53,199 --> 01:24:03,120
have like a stage area there
because we have a lot of events at when

943
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:10,600
we're celebrating the the veterans.
Um from option two, I see that if we can

944
01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:10,600
go back to option two,

945
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:20,080
the bottom portion, the bottom portion
of that looks a bit blocky. So, I would

946
01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:24,719
agree that it needs more of that arch
kind of feeling. Um, it doesn't have

947
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:31,040
that arch feeling for the bottom
section. The top section does look like

948
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:37,840
something that represents St. Gabriel.
And I would say and I would put this to

949
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:42,480
to the to the veterans if assigning each
pillar additionally assigning each

950
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:49,920
pillar to each branch that's holding up
that that um that pergula and having a

951
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:55,920
big placer on each pillar so that is
visual and is present and that you could

952
01:24:53,120 --> 01:25:03,400
we could put some lights that that will
like pop out and you look up is going to

953
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:03,400
be pretty grand. Um,

954
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:10,480
in addition, um, for the benches, I
mean, I would like to see a stage area

955
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:15,679
that could at least
fit a canopy in case it rains so that we

956
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:21,199
can house
uh, whoever we want to house up there

957
01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:25,600
and then provide a little bit more space
so that we can have the chairs in the

958
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:32,080
bottom. I know we have a few benches
there. I think it would be a interesting

959
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:36,000
idea to I see like three benches maybe
having

960
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:42,239
four benches
that are going to be concrete in there

961
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:48,960
permanently but shaping them as a a
fighter uh plane wings. So you'll be

962
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:54,800
sitting on wings that like a plane that
has two wings on the front and two in

963
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:59,840
the back. I think it will be kind of an
interesting concept to have. I mean,

964
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:05,120
it's something that we could we can
create with the cement and it wouldn't

965
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:11,800
be so grand. I think it should be not
that hard to to do.

966
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:11,800
Um, other than that,

967
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:19,679
I kind of like the idea of having
something digital, too, like a digital

968
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:26,880
uh screen or something that could be
playing. I seen that. I went to um

969
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:30,639
Guatemala City and they had that like a
digital panel where you can interact

970
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:35,120
with it and you can touch it's like
touchscreen. I know there's that

971
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:39,600
technology if we can have that embedded
and you can have a few stories and we

972
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:44,239
can easily add stories to that. We could
put a name and with technology as it

973
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:49,520
advances with AI, I don't know what we
could do but I think that would be an

974
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:56,159
interested thing to to add. So that's
just a little bit of the feedback that I

975
01:26:52,480 --> 01:27:00,880
have, but ultimately I would like I will
side with the veterans and go with the

976
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:03,880
option two with those small
modifications.

977
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:14,159
» Okay. Thank you,
Council Member Woot.

978
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:20,080
» Well, thank you, Mayor. Well, I I I just
want to express that I I'm in favor in

979
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:24,800
number two, the project too. But um the
truth is I think no matter how we want

980
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:30,960
to express our view as a council members
that uh we should just that our veterans

981
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:36,239
to determine that what is truly needed
uh rather than just imposing that what

982
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:42,080
we think should be given. Um this is
this memorial monument that represent

983
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:47,440
the honor of our city and no one carries
that honor more meaningfully than our

984
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:51,679
veterans themselves. Um but I would like
to say that St. Giver Valley Memorial

985
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:55,760
Coalition is really honor that to be you
know allow me to be part of this

986
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:59,760
projects and all the council member here
is to support you and thank you so much

987
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:05,360
for your service. That's my comment.
Thank you.

988
01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:10,960
» Thank you council member Ding. Yeah,
that's I say now I want to say thank you

989
01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:19,040
Rebecca and Mark do a good job and and
and sab very okay finally we have the

990
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:26,560
same something we can discuss for the
the veteran memorial so actually I I

991
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:35,840
remember I have this chance to discuss
that it's back to the 2018

992
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:45,360
so uh that's Even I got elected before
that it's 4th of July. Okay. I I have ch

993
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:51,440
that have chance but it's it's good
things that the staff to put on the

994
01:28:48,080 --> 01:29:00,320
veteran war on the on the on the Smith
Park. But for me I say why our city of

995
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:08,800
St. Gabri don't have the the the
permanently the memorial war to to

996
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:14,480
provide our the city the veteran too. So
I feel if our neighborhood city the all

997
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:22,800
they have the just only city of St.
Gabri. So that's I really glad to see

998
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:31,360
that this is really happen in our city.
So uh I I also ch it's like option two.

999
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:39,440
You know why? Because option two I feel
like more family you you have the kids

1000
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:46,400
or or or elder people they easy uh use
the I think it's called

1001
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:52,400
uh purga it's it's really designed it's
even your summertime

1002
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:59,040
all all winter time it's a good for the
for the for the family to have the rest

1003
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:05,760
here and the memory they are love person
the better than two. So uh the for the

1004
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:14,639
option two I really like see that this
is a very good concept and uh

1005
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:20,320
uh then I wanted to know it's based on
the the plaza park it's a lot of I still

1006
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:25,280
have a lot of question okay the plaza
park it's based on the so how many

1007
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:31,920
square footage and how many square
footage you used for the for the uh uh

1008
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:36,960
memorial monument
So give to us the some vision to see how

1009
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:42,560
big. Yeah.
>> Um the total square footage that the

1010
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:46,560
footprint of the memorial
>> um

1011
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:50,880
» I don't have that total square footage.
I mean, I can get that in terms of

1012
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:56,960
» of
what space or what area we would be

1013
01:30:54,480 --> 01:31:03,040
» occupying if you're if you take into
account the walkways and the planters

1014
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:08,239
and all that in terms of uh
uh how how many square feet are we

1015
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:12,159
actually going to be disturbing of the
existing site? I can probably come up

1016
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:16,560
with that real
>> quickly because you have the some map.

1017
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:23,760
It's a park map with the layout the
future memorial. Uh yeah, looks like

1018
01:31:20,719 --> 01:31:29,199
still small corner area, but but based
on your option two. Yeah, I know. Based

1019
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:35,440
on option two, some looks like it's more
huge. It's a it's a bigger area. Almost

1020
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:41,920
like a half park, you know. I I feeling
that, you know, almost half park is used

1021
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:44,920
for the for the memorial.
So

1022
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:54,560
just want to make sure it's it's enough
space to have the this. Yeah.

1023
01:31:52,159 --> 01:32:00,080
» And then we we also have the like uh we
have the our Christmas tree light the

1024
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:04,080
tree you we don't want to touch that
too, right? So it's for the field.

1025
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:10,320
» And I'm just estimating if you were to
go from the left side the sidewalk

1026
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:15,040
» to the uh walkway on the other side.
Yeah. That length would probably be

1027
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:19,040
about 80 90 feet.
>> 80 90 feet.

1028
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:20,320
» Okay. Linear feet distance wise.
>> Okay.

1029
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:27,199
» Yeah.
>> Okay. So, actually not I a lot of really

1030
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:29,600
ways looks like it's a huge area, right?
It's okay.

1031
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:33,760
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay.

1032
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:38,639
So, so that's why I want the more
detailed design. Do for for the is it

1033
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:43,280
for the future you have the more
detailed design. Is it possible you can

1034
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:47,280
do the new technology the 3D give it to
us the more idea?

1035
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:54,320
» Yeah, three the three dimensional the
modeling really does um I guess tell a

1036
01:32:51,040 --> 01:33:00,480
the story I guess a little easier uh to
make at this scale even at this scale.

1037
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:06,000
It is it is a big scale in plan view
>> but um it's hard to pick up in this case

1038
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:12,000
where you have a lot of uh detailing and
detailed elements. It really helps to

1039
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:14,960
see them in 3D in in a as you model
them. So you

1040
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:21,280
will we will do that.
>> If you have this this direction, you can

1041
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:30,400
do the 3D. It's more ideally. Okay.
>> All right. So it's a I like the the

1042
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:37,600
Sabio the Sabio veteran coration. They
say the pronabio veteran. But uh my

1043
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:44,639
question is how do we define S Gabriel
the veteran? So it's based on they serve

1044
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:48,400
the time or that's the question for for
>> Yeah, that's the question for I think

1045
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:53,920
for the coalition to decide how the
question is is they had to have been

1046
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:58,719
born in the city of San Gabriel or they
had to

1047
01:33:55,760 --> 01:34:04,480
lived in the city of San Gabriel.
>> So not the bas served the time, right?

1048
01:34:01,679 --> 01:34:11,040
It's a maybe they say are veteran and
then later down move they they retire

1049
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:15,360
from the the army and come to our city.
>> Most of these most of the veterans there

1050
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:21,120
are several of them that were born in
San Gabriel.

1051
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:25,679
» Then they would register in LA County
because this is LA County.

1052
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:32,080
» Then they would serve in World War I or
World War II or Vietnam or Korea.

1053
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:36,159
and then they would stay in the city.
>> Other ones have been born in another

1054
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:42,719
city
>> but have lived in this city for 50, 60,

1055
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:46,159
40, 30ome years.
>> Mhm. Okay.

1056
01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:49,440
» So, does that kind of answer your
question? And every single veteran that

1057
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:53,920
we have,
>> they fill out the application online

1058
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:58,719
» and then I have to have proof that they
served in the war. So, they have to give

1059
01:34:55,760 --> 01:35:01,360
me what is known as a DD214.
Mhm.

1060
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:06,800
» That shows you that they honorably
served and were discharged.

1061
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:10,960
» And on those papers, I'm looking for the
city of San Gabriel.

1062
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:18,480
» If they say I lived in San Gabriel,
>> then I go look at the 1920 census, 30

1063
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:22,560
census, 40 census, 50 census is up to
date to see that they lived in St.

1064
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:33,040
Gabriel.
>> Yeah. the so but the question is

1065
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:38,400
some serve the the army or navy they
discharge it and uh before they not born

1066
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:42,800
in the our city before they did not
leaving our city but after then they

1067
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,719
moved to the our city of San Gabriel
still qualified right

1068
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:48,880
» correct
>> okay good yeah it's a more broad

1069
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:53,040
» just just like all the veterans that I
explained that were Japanese they were

1070
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:56,159
all in the internment camps.
>> Okay.

1071
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:58,320
» Okay. But before those interament camps,
they lived in the city of San Gabriel.

1072
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,960
» Okay.
>> Some of them chose not to live in San

1073
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:07,120
Gabriel after the interament camps. But
the majority that I have found

1074
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,480
» not only got out of the interament
camps,

1075
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:14,480
» they served and came back to the city of
San Gabriel.

1076
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:18,960
» Yeah. Good. So very simple. It's any
veteran. It's relate to the

1077
01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:22,800
» born in San Gabriel or lived in San
Gabriel for many many years. the San

1078
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,560
Gabriel. It's
>> the city of St. Gabriel.

1079
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,400
» All right.
>> If you had nothing to do with St.

1080
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,920
Gabriel, then you cannot be on that
monument.

1081
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:35,360
» Okay.
>> And in answer to your question on the

1082
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:40,239
dates when they register, it's the dates
by the war because if you served in

1083
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:44,560
World War I, that would be 41 to 45. If
you served in Korea, so if we're putting

1084
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:49,920
the names on there, putting the dates,
that's a long way to go across the way.

1085
01:36:47,679 --> 01:36:54,480
If you go to the Vietnam veteran or you
go to the World War II veteran or the

1086
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:59,760
World War I veteran or the Korean
veteran, most of them have them in

1087
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:04,800
alphabetical order. Then you go there
and they'll tell you they're on panel

1088
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:10,480
one or panel two or panel three or panel
four. It's up to you if you want to make

1089
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:15,280
the correction when you put the emblems
there and you or or you can make a

1090
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:20,960
distinction. World War I was this year
to that year. World War II was this year

1091
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:25,040
to that year. You could do that. Uh but
most of the veterans, there's so many of

1092
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:29,520
them have so many medals. We even
contemplating on each name putting the

1093
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:37,040
different medals if they got bronze
star, silver star, but that becomes too

1094
01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:41,760
much. If you go to the city of Arcadia,
they have theirs in their museum and

1095
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:47,119
it's all digitized. So, they take all
the history like I've been getting, they

1096
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:51,280
put them online so everybody can see
them

1097
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:57,199
and and you have the emblem of each war
and the years that they served.

1098
01:37:53,679 --> 01:38:02,000
» But here, being that it's outside, you
can't do the digital ties and have it

1099
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:06,400
outside unless you place that in maybe
your historical museum, which is close

1100
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:11,520
by. The San Gabriel Historical Museum
might be one way. Um, Arcadia got theirs

1101
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:16,639
through the Daughters of American
Revolution. Uh, they donated all that

1102
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:21,199
computer and the whole setup and you
submit all the stuff to put in there.

1103
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:26,800
So, that's another option. But being
outside, we can't put that information,

1104
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:30,159
you know, next to each person, but I do
have a lot of information on each

1105
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:35,119
person. What
>> I understand. Thank you. Actually, I was

1106
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:38,000
just at the Arcadia uh community center
a few days ago and I noticed they do

1107
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,960
have
>> well, it's hard for you to see, but I

1108
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:44,560
took a picture of this. So, there's the
the the monuments outside and you're

1109
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:48,400
saying there there's another one inside
>> in their in their museum. It's called

1110
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:52,480
the GLI Museum. I will I can show you
all the stuff that they Yeah, I have

1111
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:54,960
that and I can show that to Mark how
they digitize and put it together and do

1112
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,280
that.
>> So, they've got an outdoors one and an

1113
01:38:56,719 --> 01:39:01,360
indoors one.
>> Yeah. If you go to most of the cities

1114
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:05,840
around here, Temple City,
>> Arcadia, they don't have the names on

1115
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:12,639
the veterans. They just have those four
or five Navy, Army, Marine, Flowers.

1116
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:17,440
» So, even though St. Gabriel has taken
>> a long time to do this, you'll be a

1117
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:21,840
unique city
>> by actually adding your citizens on

1118
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:26,560
there that really serve.
>> I like it. Monterey Park has some in the

1119
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:31,280
front of their city hall,
>> but this one will be so unique because

1120
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,760
you will have all of them on there.
>> Excellent.

1121
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:38,320
» And as time goes on, like Denise
mentioned and several of you mentioned,

1122
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:42,880
you'll be adding on for generations,
>> right? Okay, great. Thank you for that.

1123
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:46,960
» Any more questions? I keep going.
>> I still not finish.

1124
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,960
» Go ahead.
>> The question is for the designer. Okay.

1125
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:58,320
Thank you. Thank you to answer the
question. Denise. Okay. Uh the so it's

1126
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:05,920
we already everybody talking about
digital ties the so can you like uh when

1127
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:12,960
you do the design so maybe you can think
about it it's use the bigger screen or

1128
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:19,040
just smaller like iPad to let the let
the people they go to the even outside

1129
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:26,960
they can then can search the right away.
So that's it's possible and also I think

1130
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:33,600
this cause our safety pro problem too if
if we put on the screen on that you know

1131
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:40,000
outside so that's how do we I think I
like the digital the idea so it's easy

1132
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:45,119
to the people to go there to see the
name they can search right away they

1133
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:50,800
don't need to like go go to the like our
website something right it's it's if we

1134
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:54,080
and provide it because it's already new
technology, you know.

1135
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:58,880
» Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I think that's
that's probably doable. I think you need

1136
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:03,840
to I personally would need to do some
research on how to incorporate that. I

1137
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:12,159
think you need to think about that this
will be outdoors in a park

1138
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:18,159
» and um you know subject to um you know
>> yeah actually the first of all if we

1139
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:25,199
have big big screen even you can so how
it's even we can put on some with a

1140
01:41:21,199 --> 01:41:30,480
history like sab veteran corision how
they put on this kind movement that's

1141
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:37,760
part of history we can use the digital
talize to tell the the the the the

1142
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:42,960
future resident they know that right how
they we can make this happen right and

1143
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:50,239
by the way it's
>> uh if you talk it's also the technology

1144
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:57,440
so if you have the name you can like uh
help them to see oh where the plaque the

1145
01:41:53,760 --> 01:42:02,159
their location located so I think they
can do that too

1146
01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:08,239
» yeah in terms of uh uh finding like a
wayfinding uh tool to help find uh a

1147
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:12,880
specific person. Sure.
>> Um

1148
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:17,520
» I'm not I' I'd have to understand a
little bit more about this big screen

1149
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:21,600
thing you're talking about.
>> You know, how big is it? What what's

1150
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:25,440
what information do you want on there?
That type of thing. I imagine something

1151
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:29,440
a little bit smaller
>> that that would, you know, probably be a

1152
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:34,080
little bit more appropriate for this
rather than a large screen with names

1153
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:36,800
and things on it. That might be, you
know, subject to vandalism. Um

1154
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,400
» Mhm.
>> But even like maybe a QR code so people

1155
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,880
could go on their phone
>> QR code. Yeah.

1156
01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:47,360
» And bingo, we're done.
>> That's true. You know to

1157
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:53,119
» But I Why you say the bigger screen?
Maybe for the some veteran the senior

1158
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:58,080
person it's hard to see a like today we
hard to read it to small character

1159
01:42:55,679 --> 01:43:02,080
» be a big QR code
>> we can discuss that with staff and see

1160
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:05,760
if that's something we can incorporate
into into

1161
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:10,880
» but yeah we can let them flush that out
um later. Yeah. And the and the question

1162
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:13,280
is if we already have this direction if
looks like most

1163
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:18,719
» I still haven't spoken so
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I Yeah. No. I I

1164
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:24,159
just say I just asking the if we have
this direction. So how long you can

1165
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:27,440
provide the the the more detailed the
design?

1166
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:35,360
» Um I think we could probably have
something within two weeks updated uh uh

1167
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:40,880
design. I know we've we've we again have
these two and we've had the input from

1168
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:43,199
the coalition. So even back at our
studios, we've been thinking about how

1169
01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:46,080
to
>> to add those into the design. So

1170
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:48,400
» So
>> I would say two two to three weeks to be

1171
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:52,639
on the same side.
>> Okay. All right. The the design come

1172
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:58,080
out. It's it's very important for us
also is how much the cost, right?

1173
01:43:56,639 --> 01:44:04,320
» We'll talk about that later.
>> Yeah. But but I I just I just want to

1174
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:06,639
like add on this when they design should
be considered about that too, right?

1175
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:12,719
» Yeah.
>> And uh and uh it's after we approved the

1176
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:17,119
your detail design.
Yeah. The next go around we will have an

1177
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:22,000
estimate of what we feel something like
this would cost. Right now because it's

1178
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:27,520
still, you know, everything's kind of
fluid. Um we haven't taken the time to

1179
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:31,920
come up with any estimates. But I think
the next go around when we can, you

1180
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:34,960
know, tighten things up a bit, we can
have an estimate of what we feel

1181
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,239
something like this would cost.
>> Okay. Yeah. It's very important.

1182
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:44,000
Yes.
>> It's how long we can build this uh the

1183
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:46,800
the monument.
>> How how long?

1184
01:44:44,639 --> 01:44:52,000
» How long? Yeah, probably as
>> um I' I'd probably say a year out at

1185
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:57,600
least. Yeah, a year out.
>> It's it's one one year. Six months out.

1186
01:44:56,719 --> 01:45:02,080
construction.
>> Construction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1187
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:07,440
» Well, it'll take uh 3 4 months to do
CDs, put together the working drawings,

1188
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:11,440
the construction drawings. I imagine six
months to construct, you know, anywhere

1189
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,239
from
>> um you know, four months would be, you

1190
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:18,639
know,
>> pretty pretty fast. I'd say six month.

1191
01:45:16,719 --> 01:45:22,880
» So, roughly estimate like one year.
>> I would say about a year.

1192
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:29,280
» Okay. All right. I think the the very
courage they want to see ASAP right to

1193
01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:33,280
to get it right.
>> They've they've waited this long. So,

1194
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,040
» okay.
>> Yeah.

1195
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,119
» Okay.
>> If we could speed it up, we'd be happy

1196
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:40,320
to try to, you know, do what we can, but
>> All right.

1197
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,239
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1198
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:47,679
» Thank you.
>> Great. Thank you. So, um I think the

1199
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:55,440
consensus I'm hearing is modific uh
option two with the modifications. um

1200
01:45:50,880 --> 01:46:01,440
that were uh mentioned earlier. I I I I
can't sign on to those things on the on

1201
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:06,880
the bench. I like the way it is. I think
it's a solemn place. It's a respectful

1202
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:12,480
place. Um but I think I think the
consensus is option two with any

1203
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:18,480
modifications. We we did talk about um
digital which needs to be looked at. Um,

1204
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:23,040
but I was also just thinking um just in
general just going forward, you know, if

1205
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:27,360
people have questions, contact
information, you know, who are they

1206
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:32,320
going to be contacting going forward,
donations. I think once we have a

1207
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:37,679
design, you know, they will come. I
think you're going to have a lot of

1208
01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:41,679
groups and I, you know, I can already
think about three or four once they see

1209
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:45,600
the designs, you know, whether it's
businesses here or businesses outside,

1210
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:49,600
they're want to, they're going to want
to be part of it. So, it's really

1211
01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:53,840
important that we get these designs
done, not necessarily the construction,

1212
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:59,440
but the designs. And then I think it
would be so helpful in getting more

1213
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:03,199
people to to sign on. And so, that's
really important. But but we do need to

1214
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:07,840
think about where are we going to put
that sign. So, you know, just going

1215
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:11,600
forward and and maybe it's not digital.
I I I think it makes sense to do digital

1216
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:17,119
because things are going to be changing,
but you know, donations for the future,

1217
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:21,520
contact information, um you know, if you
want your loved ones to be added, you

1218
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:27,520
know, where do they go? So, we need to
have somewhere on there um that type of

1219
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:32,000
information. What that looks like, you
know, I don't know. And then if it makes

1220
01:47:29,679 --> 01:47:37,280
sense to do the names, the 400 names
here and then later on put them over

1221
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:43,040
here, that's fine too. But uh I I think
those are the kind of questions that

1222
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:47,199
need to be discussed. Uh the um the
other unique thing about this memorial

1223
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:52,560
is the fact that I think we're the first
ones to do the space, right? Because

1224
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:57,040
most of them don't have space.
>> Yeah, that I made that uh recommendation

1225
01:47:55,440 --> 01:48:01,040
when we first decided on this.
>> Oh, you did? Yeah. I forgot.

1226
01:47:58,719 --> 01:48:04,480
» You're welcome. You're welcome.
>> But but yeah, we're the first. So that

1227
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:09,679
makes us unique also, not just the
names. Um, one question I had and and

1228
01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:15,440
maybe it's already been discussed, but
our indigenous groups, I know there was

1229
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:21,119
some discussion of maybe having a
separate section for them or um are are

1230
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:25,600
we just going to merge them together
with everyone else? I mean, I merge

1231
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:34,239
them. Okay, so it's a merge. That's
okay. Just wanted to confirm that. And

1232
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:39,440
then um the landscaping um I I do like
it. It is very busy. Um hopefully

1233
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:45,440
whatever we do pick, you know, I'm I'm
the daughter of a gardener. Um but

1234
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:51,280
I think about those things. It's just
the the maintenance, the upkeeping. It's

1235
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:54,719
like I hope our staff is fully equipped
to do that because I don't think we have

1236
01:48:52,560 --> 01:49:00,560
anything like this in any of our
facilities because those seem to be very

1237
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:04,320
I mean I look at them at the mission and
it just seems like they're sensitive.

1238
01:49:02,639 --> 01:49:08,000
It's not something you just let it grow
and you need to give it that love and

1239
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:13,280
care and so we're going to have to have
irrigation system of some sort. So those

1240
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:17,360
are the things you you will be thinking
about. Right. Just another word about

1241
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:22,480
the landscaping and the plant material.
Someone asked that earlier. Um we do

1242
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:29,040
work with the city primarily their
maintenance people and if uh we we try

1243
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:35,520
to identify plants that they see have
worked well that do well um and we'll

1244
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:41,199
work with them and often they have the
final say uh of plant m the plant

1245
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:45,040
material that goes in. So, we want to
make sure that um you know they're on

1246
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:49,280
board as well. So,
>> but you need an irrigation system of

1247
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:51,760
some sort to make sure it continues to
grow.

1248
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:54,719
» We would probably modify what's out
there. There's currently an existing

1249
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:59,600
irrigation system. We would have to
definitely modify it in a way to

1250
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:03,280
irrigate any any new plant. Sure.
>> Yeah. Because then you have to connect

1251
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:10,400
it to the main line and goes on and on.
And then um my last comment is um I I do

1252
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:13,679
kind of like having our commissions
design review and our planning

1253
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:19,440
commission
um maybe even historical. Remember they

1254
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:25,119
are advisory. That's their role. It's
not to tell them or us what to do. They

1255
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:30,400
give advice. And if we want everyone to
kind of buy in, I I think it would be

1256
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:34,880
respectful to let them at least look at
it and maybe there's things they see

1257
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:39,199
because we have some amazing commissions
with very qualified people. Maybe

1258
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:45,119
there's some things that we're not
seeing um and they can give us their

1259
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:50,239
advice. They can just, you know, provide
any kind of guidance or or just

1260
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:54,880
suggestions. I know it's additional work
for staff, but I don't think there's any

1261
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:58,719
harm in doing it unless it's going to,
you know, stop us for another six months

1262
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:03,440
and we don't want that. But if we kind
of narrow it down to option two, you

1263
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:07,440
make those modifications,
they they look at it, maybe there's

1264
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:11,199
something else. But I I just feel it's
important to for everybody to be

1265
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:16,080
included because I get questions all the
time and I'm definitely not the expert

1266
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:21,520
and like I said this is the first time
I've seen it but um I I think it would

1267
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:26,560
start getting that momentum going and
and then hopefully once we get to a

1268
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:31,199
better place then we can have those
boards out there so people could say hey

1269
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:35,760
it's coming it's coming you know the
memorial is coming and this is where you

1270
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:40,800
donate you know this is where I I would
like to see that kind of visual even

1271
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:45,040
because this is again another year but
having some kind of visual out there so

1272
01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:49,119
people know we we're moving we're moving
forward you know the year of the horse

1273
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:53,920
right about energy and momentum and all
that good stuff and we're doing that but

1274
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:59,119
nobody knows you know unless you're a
veteran or you're really involved

1275
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:04,159
nothing out there telling people that
we're going to have a memorial here so

1276
01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:08,080
you know join in participate so those
are what would be just my suggestions

1277
01:52:05,599 --> 01:52:14,639
questions um for now, but I think staff
has enough to to proceed. Mark, is there

1278
01:52:11,599 --> 01:52:20,320
anything else you need from us?
I I would just suggest if if the

1279
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:24,719
commissions if if council wants the
commissions to be consulted that

1280
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:29,920
possibly we would do that
sooner rather than later and would take

1281
01:52:26,639 --> 01:52:34,560
these ideas to them and then DBDC would
be able to pull all of that together

1282
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:38,560
rather than them having to go back and
make propos the proposed changes that

1283
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:42,960
they've heard today and from the
Veterans Memorial Coalition and then

1284
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:45,760
take it to the to the commissions. Does
it do you?

1285
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:49,920
» Well, I Mark Martin, did you have a
comment? I couldn't understand you. You

1286
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:53,320
were mumbling.
>> What' you say?

1287
01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:02,800
» It will,
>> right?

1288
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:08,480
» Well, but but you're saying it won't
delay it. Just take this option two,

1289
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:12,639
mention the modifications that have been
made and then give them a chance to just

1290
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:17,520
look at it. That that would be my
suggestion rather than rather than David

1291
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:20,960
Voltz making these changes and then they
take it to the commissions and the

1292
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:24,320
commissions then have changes and then
it has to go back again.

1293
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:28,560
» Well, the commissions would just give us
would be advisory only. So,

1294
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:31,280
» right, but they may advise, hey, you
really should take a look at this and

1295
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:36,719
then we would need to bring it back to
council before it goes back to David

1296
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:41,679
Boltz. I I'm just trying to see how we
can kind of expedite the process, which

1297
01:53:38,719 --> 01:53:45,920
I I I sense the eagerness of council as
well as the eagerness of the veterans.

1298
01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:49,440
» Mark,
>> I'm just going to try to confirm which

1299
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:54,080
commissions you would want that to go
to. Uh my suggestion would be design

1300
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:58,400
review and cultural resources and
historic preservation because they both

1301
01:53:56,639 --> 01:54:03,360
deal in this planning commission
although they deal with with uh projects

1302
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:06,400
may not be as
>> those would be the two

1303
01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:12,080
» that's would be my suggestion.
>> Um madame mayor if I may what about the

1304
01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:16,239
idea of just having the ad hoc wi within
those commissions so that it just goes

1305
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:20,719
to one body. I think that
>> it Yeah, but it takes it takes a long

1306
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:24,880
time those ad hocs if we just I mean
they can have it at their next meeting.

1307
01:54:22,239 --> 01:54:28,000
So we're in February, March, they look
at it, we're done, and then we move

1308
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:31,040
forward.
>> So right now we're looking at two or

1309
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:36,000
three.
>> My suggestion would be two. As Rebecca

1310
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:40,400
said, we would bring this design, get
feedback. I don't think we'd have to go

1311
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:45,440
back to to council. We'll give that
feedback to David Vol's designs and they

1312
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:49,119
can put that into the final um we bring
to council unless there's something that

1313
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:52,880
we absolutely don't think council would
want to see and we can have that as

1314
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:57,119
either a separate design or just input
when we get back to council. So, I think

1315
01:54:54,560 --> 01:55:00,000
we can do it in a way that
>> speeds it up. It's not going to be fast.

1316
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,159
I don't want to oversell this. It's
going to be

1317
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:06,639
» but but if you just use this one, tell
them about the modifications, it could

1318
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:10,320
be on the agenda in March. I mean, we're
not talking about additional committees

1319
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:13,920
or additional work, per se.
>> That's right. So, March or April, it

1320
01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:16,480
would be on those commissions and then
back to the council sometime after that.

1321
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:18,000
» Yeah, madam.
>> Does that a layer?

1322
01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:21,520
» Yeah.
>> Madame Mayor, I would support that

1323
01:55:19,599 --> 01:55:25,760
because then that way they feel like
they're being part of this um process.

1324
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,320
» You support the two?
>> Yeah.

1325
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:27,360
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1326
01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:32,080
» Two.
>> Two.

1327
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:38,400
» Yeah. It's it's just just want to like
see the time wise. Okay. the uh even we

1328
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:43,840
have two how long we can we still need
to bring back to the city council to

1329
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:49,520
discuss or just uh their result it's
it's a give it to the design the company

1330
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:54,800
» ultimately the last step is coming to
council to bless the concept design and

1331
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:59,119
so the the path we're going forward with
now would be David Bol uh and his team

1332
01:55:57,599 --> 01:56:02,719
would go back and start to make the
changes they've heard today

1333
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,840
» we would take a parallel track to the
commissions

1334
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:08,960
» Mhm. Mhm.
>> And then we would come back to council

1335
01:56:06,159 --> 01:56:12,880
with whatever that end design would be
with with the input. So

1336
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:18,960
» it has to come back to us anyway.
>> So so come back to us then they are

1337
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:23,199
company they can do the further design.
Is it correct or it's it's

1338
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:26,400
simultaneously they still can do the
some design?

1339
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:38,239
I I would suggest if council is okay
with the recommendations that the

1340
01:56:35,599 --> 01:56:45,360
coalition has made and and we can take
any comments that you guys have made um

1341
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:48,800
tonight and take that to the commission.
And if the commission is in agreement

1342
01:56:47,119 --> 01:56:53,040
with those if there are additional
changes that the commissions have or

1343
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:57,440
recommendations that the commissions
have, we could potentially do that

1344
01:56:55,199 --> 01:57:03,280
offline rather than in a public meeting
and and send those to council and then

1345
01:57:00,239 --> 01:57:07,520
David Voltz can can do their I don't
know if Martin's looking concerned by

1346
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:14,080
that. No.
Yeah, I think that of course you can

1347
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:17,280
send whatever minutes of the meetings or
whatever suggestions were to the

1348
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:21,360
commission, but council can't take
action on those in any way, shape or

1349
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:27,280
form other than bring them back to the
meeting and and uh make decisions on on

1350
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:30,639
those recommendations.
Um,

1351
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:34,960
» so I guess we would need to know what
those recommendations are that are given

1352
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:39,920
and whether or not that's enough for
David Voltz to re kind of do the final

1353
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:44,239
design based on and then bring that
design back. Right.

1354
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:48,560
» Want to speak?
>> Yeah. Thank you. Um, well, I I think

1355
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:53,360
that
since it's the desire of the council to

1356
01:57:50,639 --> 01:57:58,000
have the commissions provide input on
this project and and have those that

1357
01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:02,800
input be meaningful,
um, I think that once that's done, it

1358
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:06,800
should come back to the council
>> and then go to the consultant because if

1359
01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:13,599
if if it goes straight from the
commissions to the consultant, he may or

1360
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:19,119
may not incorporate those um, and then
whatever the commissions have done

1361
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:26,239
may be recognized, may not be recognized
and and they may feel like um they

1362
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:31,440
looked at it uh without any
reason for them to do that.

1363
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:34,960
» So would it be safe to say then that
that item could come back to the city

1364
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:39,199
council? The consultant wouldn't
necessarily have to be here for that and

1365
01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:43,920
then they would be here for the final
design. Does that make sense? Well,

1366
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:46,480
that's up to the council, but depending
on what those recommendations are from

1367
01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:51,040
commissions. I
>> I think Madame Mayor, I'm sorry to butt

1368
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:54,960
in. if you'll give uh staff a little
discretion on how this process goes

1369
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:59,040
depending on what we hear back from the
commissions because I'd hate to set a

1370
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:03,520
process that we promise to bring back or
not bring back and then it turns out the

1371
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:07,360
designs are are very minimal changes and
we can just we think the council will

1372
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:11,440
approve them and we can just have the
architect incorporate them or vice versa

1373
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:15,199
if the changes are so drastic I'd hate
to waste time on making those changes

1374
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:19,599
I'd bring it back to council right away
and say you need to be the arbitrator of

1375
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:23,760
where this goes. So, if I think we have
the idea of what you're looking for and

1376
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:27,199
if you'll give us some discretion, we'll
try to get it back to the council as

1377
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:31,040
quickly as possible in a format that you
all will want to move forward on.

1378
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:35,119
» Okay.
>> So, whole processing probably take how

1379
01:59:33,679 --> 01:59:39,440
long?
>> At least two months. I don't want to

1380
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:44,960
over promise by the time we get agendas
ready and before the commission and with

1381
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:48,800
the architect, it's probably two months.
>> Well, it was going to be a month just to

1382
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:53,679
make those modifications. Anyway,
>> so we're looking at maybe one more month

1383
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:57,280
» at most. But I think it would be
valuable to have that

1384
01:59:54,960 --> 02:00:02,560
» you not one more month, it's three more
months because the two months later the

1385
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:06,719
bring back to the city council, then the
designer can go moving forward.

1386
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:09,920
» Well, no, he he already has
modifications he's got to make. This is

1387
02:00:08,639 --> 02:00:13,679
not the final one. He's going to make
those modifications that were suggested

1388
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:17,440
and he said it's going to take at least
a month.

1389
02:00:14,239 --> 02:00:21,440
» So So you can simultaneously do the some
modification

1390
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:26,320
and uh until the two months later so
they will we have the commission come

1391
02:00:23,119 --> 02:00:31,119
back. So if we have the some little
change you still can do it to is it

1392
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:36,960
correct?
>> I I I think two months. Yeah. If I mean

1393
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:43,440
the way I understand it is I I have
suggestions from from the coalition

1394
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:49,040
» and and uh uh the council this evening.
Uh those changes I think can be easily

1395
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:53,920
incorporated into an updated design
within a month.

1396
02:00:50,320 --> 02:01:01,440
» Um but it sounds like uh I would could
possibly get some additional comments

1397
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:06,000
from uh other commissions. Um, and you
know, depending on what those

1398
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:11,920
suggestions are and what the city would
like to move forward with in terms of

1399
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:17,280
those changes, you know, I would say,
you know, that could be a couple weeks

1400
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:21,440
to another month to do that. So, um, two
months total.

1401
02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:25,280
» Okay. Okay. Thank you. That's good to
know.

1402
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:30,560
» Mark, how do we take care of this?
Because we got comments. I know public

1403
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:33,840
comments already stopped, but we do have
additional comments in the audience. How

1404
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:37,840
do we suggest?
>> That's totally up to the mayor if you

1405
02:01:35,679 --> 02:01:41,679
want to open the comment period.
>> So then I will open up the public

1406
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:45,840
comment again, but you need to stand up
and get to the mic. M

1407
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:52,320
» madame mayor, may I just make one one
more uh recommendation, a clarification

1408
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:57,440
before that? Um in the bench area, I I
see that there's different kind of stone

1409
02:01:54,400 --> 02:02:01,599
there. Is that that accurate? I just
want to make sure that we avoid people

1410
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:05,679
that are going to go and skateboard in
that area and have like a particular

1411
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:09,040
kind of stone that will prevent people
from

1412
02:02:06,639 --> 02:02:11,760
» vandalizing the the benches and skating
around that area, particularly just by

1413
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:16,320
the benches.
>> And the option too, there is a different

1414
02:02:13,679 --> 02:02:23,520
stone that we're using uh in front of
the memorial. Um it'd be the idea so far

1415
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:30,560
would be a a flag stone type material.
Um, just keep in mind all this is still

1416
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:37,440
ADA uh um accessible. So, we have to
make sure that um it it's probably not

1417
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:43,199
the the easy easiest surface to skate
on, but it's it probably is flat enough

1418
02:02:39,679 --> 02:02:46,400
where someone could skate on it. Yeah.
>> Okay. I just wanted to point that out.

1419
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:49,960
» Thank you for that.
>> Thank you,

1420
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,960
» Mary.

1421
02:02:51,199 --> 02:02:59,920
» I just wanted to make a suggestion. Um,
Rebecca, like we had our meeting in

1422
02:02:56,320 --> 02:03:06,159
December with him. Is it possible to get
the commissioners with the veterans and

1423
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:10,159
him all together so that we don't go to
each commission? We have them all

1424
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:14,280
together if they want to participate in
it. Would that be possible?

1425
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:21,760
» I'm sorry. I didn't hear you.
>> I'm sorry.

1426
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:25,360
» I'm sorry. I was looking at Mark. I was
going to suggest that that dual meeting

1427
02:03:23,599 --> 02:03:30,560
like we had with the planning commission
and um the council.

1428
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:34,320
Is that possible or
>> That's absolutely possible. It's at the

1429
02:03:32,719 --> 02:03:37,520
discretion of the council. Sometimes
that takes longer to set up though than

1430
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:42,320
the standing meetings that we already
have with both commissions and um we'll

1431
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:46,480
invite the the coalition to both of
those meetings. Obviously, they'll have

1432
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:49,199
uh invitations to those. So, I I think
it'd be quicker just to use the standing

1433
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:52,560
meetings that we have
>> because I think we should be included if

1434
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:57,199
they're going to make suggestions
because we've already reviewed it with

1435
02:03:54,159 --> 02:04:01,760
him and made our suggestions so we know
what they want to suggest. I mean, cuz

1436
02:03:59,599 --> 02:04:06,080
we're not going for the angels either.
Angel benches. It just

1437
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:09,520
a ship.
>> Okay. I'm I'm Well, I don't like the

1438
02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:12,560
angels either.
>> It sounds more like a cemetery, you

1439
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:15,360
know? It sounds like it should be in the
cemetery.

1440
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:17,679
» It was plain wings. Plain wings. Yeah.
Well,

1441
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:22,159
» would it be possible to have half of you
go to one meeting and the other half go

1442
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:27,040
to? Why don't we do something like that?
>> But I I think you would find it I think

1443
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:31,199
just being more inclusive and including
this is what their

1444
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:35,119
» their volunteer role is is to give
suggestions and I think it could be some

1445
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:37,040
really good ones too, things that we're
not seeing.

1446
02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:43,719
» Right.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mary. And then uh

1447
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:43,719
» back up.

1448
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:52,199
I'm coming. Oh, who's coming? Debbie.
Sorry, Debbie.

1449
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:52,199
» Yes, sir.

1450
02:04:53,119 --> 02:05:02,239
» Um,
I just want to thank everybody. Sorry. I

1451
02:04:58,159 --> 02:05:06,480
just want to thank everyone. Um,
I just have one comment in regards to a

1452
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:11,920
suggestion
um for

1453
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:19,199
a possible modification.
Um, in keeping to the theme of our

1454
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:22,199
beautiful mission district,
um,

1455
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:36,920
digital, I understand, you know, is the
way. um in a lot of different types of

1456
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:36,920
settings, but this is just me. Um

1457
02:05:37,119 --> 02:05:45,119
you know, um
when I see

1458
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:51,840
something electronic in front of this
beautiful San Gabriel Mission,

1459
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:58,560
um it's just hard to see flashing lights
or or the scrolling of names. and you

1460
02:05:55,840 --> 02:06:03,840
know against that backdrop of of the San
Gabriel mission and I understand it's

1461
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:09,599
it's the way and it's easier to view for
folks but um

1462
02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:15,520
you know just the thought of having like
a billboard or something you know

1463
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:21,679
illuminated like that I'm thinking of
you know the billboards down the Sunset

1464
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:27,280
Strip or Vegas you know and I don't want
it to take away from the beautiful San

1465
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:33,280
Gabriel mission, you know. Um I I
remember everyone said we got to keep

1466
02:06:29,679 --> 02:06:39,520
this veterans memorial in the style of
our San Gabriel mission of the flavor,

1467
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:47,119
the feeling, the vibe and just having a
digital

1468
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:53,920
whatever size there I think um
you know kind of takes away from how

1469
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:58,880
unique our city is you know and um I get
goosebumps just thinking about it. And

1470
02:06:56,079 --> 02:07:06,560
I'm sorry. I I I am passionate about our
veterans and I love this little town,

1471
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:13,360
St. Cabril, and I'm sorry. Um but
you know um I know the future

1472
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:20,400
there's a lot of changes
but we we need to embrace this town

1473
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:26,239
you know and we can't lose the flavor of
what we have at that little plaza park

1474
02:07:23,599 --> 02:07:29,599
in front of that church in front of
where everything happened and everything

1475
02:07:28,079 --> 02:07:36,480
started
you know um so Yeah, just having the

1476
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:43,520
beautiful little lights um illuminating
the names and the flag I think is great,

1477
02:07:40,639 --> 02:07:48,880
you know. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh Carlos or Michael? Oh,

1478
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:53,360
okay.
>> I saw Carlos's hand.

1479
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:58,480
» No, no, go ahead.
Uh since it's

1480
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:03,360
since it's now going to the planning
commission, it's like one more

1481
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,880
» No, no, we said design review and
historical.

1482
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:08,480
» Okay.
>> Not the planning.

1483
02:08:06,239 --> 02:08:16,079
» It's just that we want to be kept a
breast of what's going on. you know, uh

1484
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:21,280
it has been a long long time and there's
been a lot of time where we've come

1485
02:08:19,679 --> 02:08:30,079
together,
try to come up with ideas,

1486
02:08:25,119 --> 02:08:34,560
um come up with plans for fundraisers,
uh time to communicate with different

1487
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:40,159
council members.
And so we're hoping that we are kept a

1488
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:47,440
breast of all the steps they're going to
take. Um because

1489
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:53,840
the group is not exactly teenagers,
okay? And and

1490
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:58,239
the more that they know, I think the
better that they have that something's

1491
02:08:56,159 --> 02:09:02,480
going to come about and that they can
share that information with others. So

1492
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:06,880
that's my hope.
I think Rebecca's been very good in

1493
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:12,079
trying to keep you all informed. I think
we've all done a better job. So, I think

1494
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:15,040
we can give you assurance that whatever
does take place, it will be

1495
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:22,719
communicated.
I hope that uh the architects I wish

1496
02:09:18,239 --> 02:09:30,320
them well with their uh proposed concept
drawings and I wish also to thank uh

1497
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:36,159
Rebecca Pettis for her uh serving as a
liaison between ourselves and the city.

1498
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:42,960
uh she's been
very very good in her precision and

1499
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:47,280
always there to offer us the help that
we need. Thank you.

1500
02:09:44,719 --> 02:09:52,480
» Thank you, Michael. Carlos, the real
Carlos.

1501
02:09:49,679 --> 02:09:58,880
» Okay, great. Thank you.
How'd you get in here, Pat?

1502
02:09:55,760 --> 02:10:04,320
» Hello. Hello, uh Mayor Machaka, members
of the city council. Thank you very

1503
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:13,520
much. My name is Patricia Fulton. F O L
T Y N. And I was born in Pasadena but

1504
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:18,079
raised in this beautiful city. Um my my
parent my father was not a veteran

1505
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:28,000
although maybe a civilian veteran of
World War II. I um I remember when this

1506
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:34,000
idea was first scratched on a napkin for
this Veterans Memorial.

1507
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:37,679
And I know I uh I know people that were
sitting next to me when they were

1508
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:44,000
scratching ideas on the napkin along
with the veterans many years ago. So I

1509
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:49,119
am so happy to see that this is where it
is now. I think it's going to be a

1510
02:10:46,079 --> 02:10:55,199
positive influence for our community. My
one concern is that if this is at the

1511
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:59,599
turn of the street where where it goes
in front of the Mission Elementary

1512
02:10:56,960 --> 02:11:05,440
School and then turns on down to Mission
Drive, we have to somehow subtly make

1513
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:10,480
the traffic be, you know, I just don't
want to see somebody go crashing, you

1514
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:18,480
know, over and unfortunately landing
into the memorial. So unobtrusively

1515
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:25,920
make the turn make people aware that you
know slow down or maybe put um like slow

1516
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:31,199
like a slow down sign in this area so
that the safety of the people at the

1517
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:35,199
memorial as well as the people driving.
I don't know whether there's any

1518
02:11:32,639 --> 02:11:41,679
accidents that have occurred there but
I'm always thinking safety. So that

1519
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:46,960
smiley concern and I'm sure that um that
the designers, the police department,

1520
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:50,159
the the city staff will work together to
ensure that the safety. Thank you very

1521
02:11:49,599 --> 02:11:53,679
much.
>> Thank you, Pat. Yeah, that's why it's

1522
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:59,280
important to have our police officers or
and and fire to be there to give back.

1523
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:06,159
Okay, so that closes public comment.
>> Got one more. Oh,

1524
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:11,679
» you know, you guys have done a lot and
Rebecca, as he explained, has really

1525
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:18,719
been helpful the whole way through, but
the veterans would love to see a sign

1526
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:24,960
there that says future home of the
veteran site because as we're putting on

1527
02:12:22,639 --> 02:12:30,239
Veterans Day and Memorial Day and I'm
calling people asking for their veterans

1528
02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:35,920
information, they keep saying, "Where's
the site? I don't see a sign there. I

1529
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:40,719
don't know where it is." So, I'm hoping
that the city I know that we have

1530
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:46,639
submitted, Michael Cervantes had several
designs submitted to Rebecca of what we

1531
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:54,000
would like it to say because the
veterans cannot go out fundraising until

1532
02:12:49,599 --> 02:12:59,599
we have a final conception design. So,
anything that you do that delays it in

1533
02:12:56,639 --> 02:13:06,079
getting this out there to us, it impedes
the fundraising of getting uh money to

1534
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:11,199
put, you know, the veterans names on
there and stuff. So I want you also to

1535
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:15,760
keep that in mind because every no
matter what you do it's just delaying

1536
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:20,880
along the way whether it's a month, two
months, three months because we cannot

1537
02:13:17,599 --> 02:13:25,280
go out anywhere unless we have the final
and actual design to start fundraising.

1538
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:32,000
Okay,
>> thank you. Okay, I'm going to close

1539
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:37,280
public comment and uh staff uh or city
manager, you have everything you need.

1540
02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:42,560
Okay, great. Thank you to everybody for
participating and for their patience.

1541
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:46,079
Uh, next item,
city manager report.

1542
02:13:44,639 --> 02:13:51,920
» Thank you, Madame Mayor. I have nothing
tonight other than wishing everybody a

1543
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:57,679
happy uh, new year.
>> Okay. Council comments and conference

1544
02:13:55,440 --> 02:14:01,520
meeting reports. Uh, vice mayor, would
you like to start?

1545
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:07,599
» Okay. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'm going
to try to make this quick. Um, I know

1546
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:13,920
we've had a long day. Um,
on February 6th, uh, I attended the

1547
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:21,199
grand opening and ribbon cutting for
Guiji Tea Huiji Tea House in the Tawa

1548
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:26,800
Gateway, which is, uh, the former
formerly known as Focus Plaza Complex,

1549
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:33,119
and we wish them well. Looks like, uh,
they're going to do really well there.

1550
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:37,520
On uh February 7th, I attended along
with my some of my colleagues here

1551
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:42,000
attend the IPAC officers installation
dinner at the San Gabriel Sherin. It was

1552
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:50,079
a lovely event and thank you Councilman
Ding for the reminder. Um on the 11th I

1553
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:54,639
attended the a grand opening celebration
of a new restaurant called Milk and

1554
02:14:51,920 --> 02:15:02,159
Company Cafe in Monterey Park and uh
they seem like they're going to do well.

1555
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:08,800
So, um, on February 13th, I attended,
well, as, uh, as Dr. Chassidy Jennings,

1556
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:14,159
uh, Nunees mentioned, I attended a
lovely Black History Month art exhibit

1557
02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:19,040
event at the Blossom Market Hall, and it
was hosted by Dr. Jennings Nunees. And,

1558
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:22,159
uh, yeah, it was it was a great event,
really talented artist that they were fe

1559
02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:26,719
featuring.
On

1560
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:31,119
February 15th, I attended League of
Women Voters along with a few of my

1561
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:36,480
colleagues here, uh, League of Women
Voters 90th anniversary Gayla event at

1562
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:41,360
the Arcadia Community Center. It's a
worthy cause and the music was great.

1563
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:48,520
And I may or may I not have uh sang
karaoke along with it.

1564
02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:48,520
Maybe that happens. Um,

1565
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:56,560
and uh, oh, earlier this morning I
attended a public safety summit hosted

1566
02:15:54,000 --> 02:16:02,400
by Temple City Mayor Sternquist at
Temple City's LA County Library. And it

1567
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:08,880
was mainly regarding how to work
together uh during a mass mass casualty

1568
02:16:06,079 --> 02:16:12,639
emergency event and how to work together
and efficiently among the different

1569
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:16,960
levels of government and making sure
we're all on the same page and not

1570
02:16:14,639 --> 02:16:24,400
getting in each other's way and and
making the the making the response as uh

1571
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:29,360
fluid and efficient as possible.
And um last thing, uh I just hope

1572
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:36,160
everyone had a great President's Day
holiday. I'm wearing my president's tie

1573
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:40,960
and happy lunar year. Happy Lunar New
Year. All right. Thank you. And I yield

1574
02:16:38,479 --> 02:16:44,800
my time. Okay. Thank you, Madam Mayor.
>> Council member Hera Aila.

1575
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:50,960
» Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh just one
thing just shiny quail ki fatai wishing

1576
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:55,359
you all a happy Chinese lunar new year
and uh many blessings to you and your

1577
02:16:52,880 --> 02:16:59,880
families.
Thank you, Council Member Deng.

1578
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:05,080
» Five minutes to it.

1579
02:17:06,479 --> 02:17:15,040
Okay. February 6 and have a chance to go
to Gu

1580
02:17:12,399 --> 02:17:20,399
Opening. It's really glad our city have
a lot of the different kind of even tea.

1581
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:26,479
We have the different kind of tea too.
It's uh they are originally uh at Tai

1582
02:17:23,519 --> 02:17:31,599
Taiwan. It's Yeah, it's it's a grand
great uh the grand opening. It's thanks

1583
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:38,880
to our
the economic development department to

1584
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:47,439
to host it this great event and our our
our PIO do the good job to to do that.

1585
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:53,599
Okay. And uh uh that's so uh morning and
evening I have uh attended the arch war

1586
02:17:50,479 --> 02:18:00,399
grant prosperity they do the like a
financial insurance they every year this

1587
02:17:56,719 --> 02:18:08,880
last couple year every year in the our
gabio the sheran so um because the it's

1588
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:19,280
the same to my career so they invite me
too and the evening I I joined

1589
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:24,840
choir in the Pasadena, the the
church, the people from the

1590
02:18:25,679 --> 02:18:35,200
uh overseas, they have the good and come
with our uh like a local choir. They

1591
02:18:32,559 --> 02:18:44,880
sing it together. It's it's very good
culture. And February 7, I have chance

1592
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:53,359
thanks to our rest of council member,
the mayor and the vice mayor to

1593
02:18:49,519 --> 02:19:01,599
join the I have the opportunity got the
awards. Okay. So and that served our

1594
02:18:58,319 --> 02:19:07,599
community and the February 8 it's I
attend Guang Guangdong University they

1595
02:19:04,319 --> 02:19:16,800
are have the event in our Sabia Hilton
it's it's it's a great event too and uh

1596
02:19:12,880 --> 02:19:26,719
then it's February 8 10 it's I have
chance to attend the SGB cog at 2028 the

1597
02:19:22,960 --> 02:19:34,240
the the 2028 became the the committee.
So uh it's uh still continue to discuss

1598
02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:41,760
on the 2020 how can they like uh
especially I I they've used this five

1599
02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:50,479
division and uh I I most joined it's
sane park the division very close to us

1600
02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:56,960
right okay and uh uh we suggest uh like
uh cal

1601
02:19:53,439 --> 02:20:03,840
metro should be they they plan to to
provide the public transportation to let

1602
02:20:00,880 --> 02:20:11,359
our sabio the resident go to the sale
mar the station. So that's I think is

1603
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:16,640
very important. So you know
we first of all we worry about the trans

1604
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:21,840
uh traffic but uh second it's it's a lot
of senior people is really want this

1605
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:27,600
kind of fast service they go to if they
want to go to the uh game to watch the

1606
02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:35,040
game. And by the way we uh the the this
plan also the bring the like the foreign

1607
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:39,600
the ethnic they have to come to our for
our first of all I will represent for

1608
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:46,880
our city of St. Gabriel. So hopefully
they can come in to visit our uh the

1609
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:52,000
mission district to see the uh this uh
the the historic city. By the way, if if

1610
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:56,800
today we're moving forward, hopefully
that time we can introduce them that

1611
02:20:54,479 --> 02:21:02,800
that we have the veteran memorial park
here too. Okay. So, it's it's a it's a

1612
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:08,000
good like consistent the uh the meeting.
I I saw the our council member Bu is

1613
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:14,240
also joined that and the February 12
it's uh council general the chamber of

1614
02:21:10,960 --> 02:21:22,240
commerce uh they they have the luna new
year celebration and uh they currently

1615
02:21:18,479 --> 02:21:27,760
say is in the uh hassai and auroran high
and uh hopefully the the hosting the

1616
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:33,439
business owner will be sooner have the
business in our city of San Gabriel too.

1617
02:21:30,319 --> 02:21:39,520
All right. And and bring the more
revenue for us. Okay. And and February

1618
02:21:36,399 --> 02:21:48,640
the 14, it's I have the chance with our
council member with Haka at the Tenuan

1619
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:54,080
day the cultural celebration and uh
evening it's an I have attended Yina

1620
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:59,439
Association Luna New Year celebration
actually.

1621
02:21:56,160 --> 02:22:04,800
uh this like uh it's for me it's very
amazing they it's most like they are

1622
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:10,720
like a traditional the pe people are
from the China they're different ancest

1623
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:18,399
group too they celebrate because China
is it's it's larger when it's haga is

1624
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:24,479
mostly from the Taiwan and and it's they
in like ch okay it's it's really

1625
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» you're close to your five minutes
>> okay Okay.

1626
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:32,800
» All right. So, it's really like uh for
me it's it's really it's represent our

1627
02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:38,720
city have the diff different kind of
culture. We have the uh uh Spanish

1628
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:44,640
culture, indigenous people, the the the
culture. Yeah. Thank you,

1629
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:49,280
» Council Member Woo.
>> Well, first of all, thank you so much

1630
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:54,880
for those who still staying here.
Usually after the long reports um that

1631
02:22:53,040 --> 02:23:00,479
saves a lot of my time because I have
attended with them some of the event but

1632
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:04,880
the negative part is I'll have less
audience stay here but thank you so much

1633
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:09,840
tonight
no no well but uh um I just want to make

1634
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:13,840
that brief the last things first that
this morning I joined the lunar new year

1635
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:18,000
celebration at Shilai Temple in Hienna
Heights. So alongside with a lot of

1636
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:22,800
distinguished community leaders and
elected official. So more than 3,000

1637
02:23:20,479 --> 02:23:27,439
people gathered to celebrate the year of
horse and reflecting the strength of

1638
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:33,920
unity of our diverse community. And I
was able to uh uh deliver a short

1639
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:40,640
message and to wish everyone a happy new
year. And on February 12, I attended the

1640
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:44,960
Ramona Polar dinners as the member of a
very proud member of Native Sons of the

1641
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:50,160
Golden West. It was truly inspiring
because I learned how to play bingo.

1642
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:55,040
And it was also happy to see that so
many dedicated members who care deeply

1643
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:59,120
about the history of our city and the
state. So I have a privilege to share a

1644
02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:03,920
little updates about our city of St.
Gabriel and expressing my gratitude to

1645
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:10,720
our city staff for their outstanding
work that makes our community that I'm

1646
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:17,680
so proud to represent. Uh I also met um
with this uh SGV COG Olympics ad hoc

1647
02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:21,840
committee that representative and uh
with other cities elect official to

1648
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:28,160
discuss how city of St. Gabriel can
contribute as a nonvalue partners during

1649
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:33,840
the upcoming games in 2028. I share that
we should expand our indigenous cultural

1650
02:24:31,359 --> 02:24:38,399
programming and enhance our lanterns
display to make our city of St. gave her

1651
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:43,359
a unique vibrant destination during the
Olympics. So the ideas including

1652
02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:49,439
inviting the indigenous group from our
sister city in Hing County in Taiwan to

1653
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:54,399
engaged with our local tribal
communities here in St. Gabriel and

1654
02:24:51,920 --> 02:25:00,479
shifting maybe the dumpling and beers
fest from October to July. So and to

1655
02:24:58,399 --> 02:25:05,680
positioning our city as a hub of
Olympics celebration.

1656
02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:10,880
On February 15, I attended inauguration
of chi uh American Chinese cuisine

1657
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:17,280
association at St. Gary Hilton with
dumplings served that evening. It was a

1658
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:22,960
feeding celebrations. I was I invited
the president uh Miss Zen to consider

1659
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:28,240
sponsoring and supporting dumpling for
our city's dumpling beer festival and as

1660
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:32,880
the way that to further strengthen
community partnership and cultural

1661
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:35,200
exchange. So that concludes my review.
>> Did they say yes?

1662
02:25:34,240 --> 02:25:37,760
» Not yet. Because
>> not yet. All right.

1663
02:25:36,479 --> 02:25:42,800
» They said they have so many different
kind of a flavor. Okay. I just taste

1664
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:45,200
maybe one, you know, oneird of them.
>> Okay.

1665
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:47,920
» I want to make sure that they serve
really all delicious.

1666
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:51,600
» I trust you on quality control.
>> You should trust me.

1667
02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:55,040
» You you taste test all of it. Invite me
for the taste test next time, too.

1668
02:25:53,040 --> 02:26:00,399
» Yes, you're right. So, happy new year,
everyone. Thank you so much.

1669
02:25:57,680 --> 02:26:07,120
» Thank you. And so, first of all, I
wanted to thank um Eliana Flores and

1670
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:12,640
Nancy Ramos and Jessica uh for all the
decorating um and uh making this a

1671
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:16,800
festive day because I know it is as some
of the public comments made. This is a

1672
02:26:14,399 --> 02:26:21,920
very special day and thank you to my
colleagues for all being here um to

1673
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:28,000
celebrate uh the Lunar New Year. So,
happy new lunar new year to all. Just a

1674
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:34,399
couple things. Um well, Mary Garcia has
left us, but uh the Grand Parlor del um

1675
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:42,319
delegate fundraiser that the Rona Parlor
is having um is um they they are having

1676
02:26:39,120 --> 02:26:48,080
this fundraiser where you get lasagna
meal which includes meatballs and

1677
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:53,920
sausage $15 each or two for 25 and you
get wine red or white for $10. And then

1678
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:59,680
you make your reservations and you pick
them up at Clar's Italian market in

1679
02:26:57,200 --> 02:27:06,240
their parking lot and all the proceeds
will benefit um the Ramona parlor

1680
02:27:03,359 --> 02:27:10,800
specifically the delegate. So um you can
go online and get that information but

1681
02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:15,920
it's u they do this periodically so keep
an eye out. Um, I was able to meet with

1682
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:20,240
the new management at the Hilton Hotel
and they are very interested with the

1683
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:24,880
Olympics and they think that by the end
of this year they're going to be fully

1684
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:28,880
booked um with those who want to attend
the Olympics. So, that's a really good

1685
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:33,840
connection and maybe you've already made
it, but I was able to meet with with the

1686
02:27:30,960 --> 02:27:38,160
new uh team that's there and it's um
they have so much experience. they've

1687
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:42,880
been at other properties and so it's
very exciting and they want to do more

1688
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:47,280
with our city also. Um and we I had some
staff there too. Um so they're already

1689
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:55,840
making those connections. So just an
FYI. Um I am also it was on February

1690
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:59,680
11th was 211 LA which is a a nonprofit
that I've served on their board for the

1691
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:07,680
last seven years. They're located here
in St. Gabriel on Lunas. It's um 247

1692
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:13,359
uh uh free and confidential um services
that they provide. Uh you can call them,

1693
02:28:10,399 --> 02:28:18,240
tax, text them, chat with them, but they
they give out so many vital services

1694
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:23,439
from um housing, food, utilities,
caregiving, and we had um a nice lunch

1695
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:28,000
where we brought all these different
partners and prospective partners to

1696
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:34,000
help our communities. and it's for the
whole of whole LA County, but it's it's

1697
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:42,640
a wonderful group and um I'm so pr proud
that we had a great turnout for 211 LA

1698
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:50,479
day. And then um I also attended the uh
NLEO um uh uh e evening. Um it was the

1699
02:28:48,160 --> 02:28:55,600
50th anniversary of the National
Association of Latino Elected and

1700
02:28:52,560 --> 02:29:00,319
Appointed Officials. Uh, NELO was
founded by Congressman Roal. Um, it was

1701
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:04,720
happened to be his birthday and we were
celebrating also his legacy and we were

1702
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:11,760
um at the house that his grandson now
owns and um, Latino civic history

1703
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:16,160
started there with Congressman Roal and
he got all the na all the elected

1704
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:22,160
officials, Latinos from the whole
country and it continues to to be a very

1705
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:28,640
strong organization. uh they deal with
policies uh let with lots of legislators

1706
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:35,040
and um it was just a really nice
evening. It was just um a reminder how

1707
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:40,720
far we have come. It's um and then um I
too attended the League of Women Voters

1708
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:45,920
along with council member um Woo and
Vice Mayor uh Chan. And the League of

1709
02:29:43,840 --> 02:29:49,920
Women Voters, it's a nonpartisan group.
They've been around for 90 years and

1710
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:54,479
their focus is for civic engagement and
voter empowerment. We are one of the

1711
02:29:52,479 --> 02:30:01,680
cities that they represent. There's 13
cities that they represent. Um and uh it

1712
02:29:58,880 --> 02:30:06,319
was just uh another wonderful evening
just demonstrating that there are so

1713
02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:11,040
many groups out there that are that want
to protect our vote and um they're

1714
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:17,200
empowering voters and they're trying to
give accurate factual information and um

1715
02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:22,160
so I was very happy to be there to
support them. So that concludes my

1716
02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:29,760
report. The next regularly scheduled
city council meeting will be held on

1717
02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:36,640
Tuesday, March 3rd at 6:30 p.m. and it
is Oh, I changed it to a stopwatch, so

1718
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:43,120
now I don't have a timer here.
>> Oh, 9:01.

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» 90 at 9:01. Thank you everybody.