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Good morning. Welcome to the

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October 24, Board of Supervisors meeting. Before we start, I kind of couple announcements.

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One is that, as probably most of you know, this may be a long meeting, and to, and

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deference to my peers and to all who are attending, we will break around noon for lunch for

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half an hour. I'm sorry. We'll break for lunch and then we'll reconvene at 130 for

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afternoon sessions, so for those who are here to attend that part of it just to let you know what's

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happening in regards to that. Secondly, in our moment of silence, or silent prayer

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meditation, we'd like to recognize one of our kind of employees who passed away, substance abuse

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counselor 2, Denise Humphrey. She started with the county in 1992, returned about seven years ago

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to the Family Ties program. She was passionate about working with individuals in recovery.

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She completed her bachelor's degree, and transferred to the the whole person care unit and

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the outreach team. She will be missed by obviously her peers, by those other workers in the

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county and certainly for those who she worked with in the community. Tonight, there's a

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candlelight vigil at the 6 p.m. at the Recovery House in French camp, so a moment of silence

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and for those who remember Denise and her family and her co-workers and friends.

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Thank you. Sam, we'll have a pledge of allegiance, surprise a patty with your mind ladies.

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Thank you, please join.

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A pledge of allegiance to a new act of allegiance to the Republic of France, our nation, as a little

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liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. Earl Conflase. Supervisor Villapudua. Supervisor Miller. Here. Supervisor Patty. Yes.

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Supervisor Elliott. There. Chair Win. Here. Thank you. Now we'll have recognition and

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presentations. First one is the National Caregiver Appreciation Month for Samuacene County.

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We now have the proclamation of November 2017 as National Caregiver Appreciation Month in Samuacene County.

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We will invite Manuel Mendoza of the Department of Aging and Samuacene Public Health

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Educator and Healing Simotion Board Member, Daniel Kim, who will accept the proclamation on

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behalf of Healing Simotion amongst other staff there here. The board is presenting a proclamation

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whereas November is proclaimed National Caregiver Appreciation Month. Healing Simotion and the

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Samuacene County Department of Aging will present the 10th Annual Intercephari Caregiver Conference

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on November 4, 2017 to recognize the valuable contributions paid and unpaid caregivers make

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to the continuum of health care and whereas one in five adults are currently caring for a loved one

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over the age of 65 and as baby boomers continue to age the need for caregivers increases

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and whereas according to the Stanford University Study Caregiver Syndrome, caregivers have a

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lower physical well-being, higher stress levels, higher rates of chronic illness, a greater risk for

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depression, social isolation and financial losses as compared to others who do not serve in this

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capacity and whereas there is a need for flexibility to support working caregivers who find

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themselves between caring for an elderly parent and caring for their immediate family and whereas

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caregivers deserve a special day of self-care, recognition and retooling to continue the vital role

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they play in our county. Now therefore be it resolved that the Samuacene County Board of Supervisors

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is hereby proclaim November 4, 2017 as caregiver appreciation day in Samuacene County and

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encourages all citizens to honor the selfless service and the importance of caregivers throughout

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Samuacene County presented this 24th day of October 2017.

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Good morning. Thank you for this proclamation from the Board of Supervisors. Our founding

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director of Healing's Emotion Mary Nicholson is unable to join us today because she is

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out doing what she has always dedicated her time and energy for this organization which is to advocate

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for patients who are suffering from stroke, brain attack and other head injuries or trauma

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and their prevention by working on the team that is examining the designations of our area hospitals

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for their ability and capacity to handle stroke cases. Through our persistence for more than 10 years we

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are lucky to have actually four designated stroke centers in the county without having to go more than 50

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miles to the next designated stroke center to get the best care for this kind of emergency. As you

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know, time is free and we need to recognize the signs get treatment quickly and improve your recovery.

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If Mary were here today, she would remind everyone that she herself is a stroke survivor for

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over 10 years ago. The more relevant today's proclamation is the fact that just before that happened,

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she was a caregiver to her husband who suffered from pancreatic cancer until his passing.

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Who knows if her aneurysm was a culmination of her stress from caring for her health husband?

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Well also maintaining her business in media adjusting to a new life in central California as a newlywed

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but through her own experience as well as with caregivers who supported her through her own recovery from stroke

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Mary recognize that all caregivers those who are taking care of family members with chronic disease conditions

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those dealing with siblings or elderly parents with dementia Alzheimer's or other mental conditions

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and those helping friends and families with physical disabilities and need of assistance to get through daily life

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are also in need of advocacy through healing's emotion. We on the board of healing's

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emotion recognize our caregivers as valuable individuals who need time, resources and support

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to keep them going. They may be paid or unpaid but they are human and they work and the work that they

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do take a takes a toll on their body and spirit. That's why healing's emotion is celebrating our

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caregivers in the month of November and on Saturday November 4th at the Robert J. Cobra

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of Agricultural Center we are having our tent annual in our safaris caregivers conference. It is free

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for all pre-registered caregivers will have vendors, educators, speakers and more at this all-day event.

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It is put together in partnership with the Department of Aging who recognizes the need for this kind of event

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and support for our caregivers. They also support healing's emotions classes through our county

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split specifically through the caregivers for the caregivers, the caring for me to program,

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where they have a chance to learn and experience with others in a safe and relaxed group setting.

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This inner safari is a huge expansion of this effort where our caregivers will be fed and pampered

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for free throughout the day. We'll have a special pampered room where they can get massages and get other information.

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It has been a great event for the last 10 years and we hope everyone can take advantage of it.

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And thank you to the Board of Supervisors and the County for recognizing our valuable

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caregivers. I would like to have the members behind me introduce themselves

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who are the Board of Directors for the healing's emotional or a planning committee for the safari.

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So, here's Jan. Board member.

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Failure will compare a board member.

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Lift a ball of volunteer for the caregiver event.

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Anyone goes on a social worker for the Family Care Givers Support Program?

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I'm a volunteer and was formerly a caregiver.

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Please, vigil. Agent and community services supporting the caregiver.

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Well, first of all, I want to thank all of you for what you do.

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Having the opportunity to be in a caregiver, you have at one time, I understand exactly what you've

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gone through and what you're doing and to have been doing. The other part of it and recognizing the

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stroke issue. When recognize our AMS director Dan Birch because he's been working with our seven

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hospitals and regards to getting stroke centers and each and every one of them. And he said we have four,

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but I think the plan is to have all seven by July 1, so that will be a benefit in your right

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time as of the essence. I think probably and it was mentioned in the proclamation that, you know,

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caregivers are going to be desperately needed even more so in the future.

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There are a number of persons my age, for example, who are going to need that kind of assistance.

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And I can only thank you because I see it as something that's done

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not out of duty or responsibility, but out of compassion and out of doing it because they love those

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that they take care of. And so I want to recognize all of you and all those caregivers in this county

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because you do a tremendous job and without you, I don't know what we would do.

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So with that, if you go all step over, there's somebody's got a camera, so we'll get a picture of all

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you with the proclamation.

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Next, we have the proclamation of October 24, 2017, as World Polio Day in San Joaquin County.

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Here to accept the proclamation is Anne Johnston, former Stockton Mayor and current president of

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Rotary Club of Stockton. The proclamation being presented by the board today reads a story. Whereas

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Rotary International founded on February 23, 1905 in Chicago, Illinois is a world's first

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and one of the largest non-profits service organizations. And where is there over 1.2 million

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rotary club members comprised of professional and business leaders in over 35,000 clubs

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in 200 countries and geographic areas? And where is the Rotary motto, service above self,

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inspires members to provide humanitarian service, encourage high ethical standards and promote

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goodwill and peace in the world. And where is Rotary in 1985 launched Polio Plus and spearheaded the

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global Polio eradication initiative, which today includes the World Health Organization,

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U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, UNICEF and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

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to immunize the children of the world against Polio. And whereas Polio cases have dropped by 99.9

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percent since 1988, and the world stands on the threshold of eradicating the disease. And whereas

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to date, Rotary has contributed more than 1.7 billion in countless volunteer hours to the protection

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of more than 2 billion children in 122 countries. And whereas Rotary is currently working to raise

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an additional 150 million, if realized, will be tripled by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

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for a total of up to 450 million over the next three years. And whereas these efforts are providing

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much needed operational support, medical personnel, laboratory equipment, and educational materials for

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health workers and parents. And whereas in addition, Rotary has played a major role in decisions

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by donor governments to contribute more than 8 billion to the effort. And whereas whereas there are

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over 547 Rotary Club members in more than 13 clubs throughout Samlakeen County, sponsoring service

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projects to address such critical issues as poverty, health, hunger, illiteracy, and the environment

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and their local communities and abroad. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Samlakeen County

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Board of Supervisors does hear by proclaim the day of October 24th, 2017, as World Polio Day in Samlakeen

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County. And encourages all citizens to join Rotary International in the fight for a Polio

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Feet Free World. Presented this 24th day of October 2017.

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All right. Thank you so much. I hear representing the Rotary

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clubs of Stockton and Samlakeen County. I have with me Bob Melrose, Monsters, Solamani,

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and Ray Call, and probably a bunch of Rotarians out in the audience as well because Rotarians are

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throughout the city and the county doing good work because Rotarians are people of action. Today is

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World Polio Day and why is that important? Because we are this close to eradicating polio

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on the face of this globe, this close 99.9 percent eradicated because of the efforts of Rotary

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and other major organizations and funders. Just to give you a quick brief history, the first

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outbreak of polio was in 1894. Can you believe that with 18 deaths and 132 people paralyzed?

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The next major outbreak was in 1916 with 2000 deaths in New York City. 6,000 people were affected

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in the United States. So it was huge at that time. But the very worst outbreak of polio was in 1952

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when there were almost 58,000 cases of polio that were here. And some of you I'm sure we

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Remember what was like growing up in an era before everybody was immunized, where you were afraid, children were afraid to go out and go into swimming pools. Parents were fearful of having children out into crowds, where the iron long became the way of taking care of a polio victim that was paralyzed.

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Well, in 1955, Jonas soft developed the vaccine that has made a huge difference in the world. In 1985, rotary launched this major, major international health initiative in 1985 in a polio plus.

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And it's the largest global health initiative ever launched and it was led and begun by rotary. And rotary international and all the rotary clubs as the, as the, as a proclamation indicated, there's 1.2 million rotarians in this world, something like 35,000 clubs throughout the world.

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And rotarians are out there actually giving vaccine to children throughout the world. In 1988, there were 350,000 cases of polio. It was estimated that there were 1,000 new cases every day in a 125 countries that was in 1988. Can you imagine what that would be like if it were today.

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So, rotary international, rotarians in this whole world worked very hard and have worked for over 30 years to eliminate polio. All kinds of events take place to raise money for the vaccine because every year 400 million children worldwide are vaccinated against polio 400 million children.

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We don't hear about polio in this country very much until rotarians come and tell you about it and say, look, the rest of the world out there, there's polio still existing and until we eliminate it completely, it's not gone.

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So, altogether 2.5 billion children have been vaccinated in this world through the efforts of rotary and other major funders. If you look at this month's rotarian magazine, you see a very familiar face, Bill Gates, who's one of the major funders of our polio plus initiative, gives matches money 2 for 1 every dollar this given through rotary, they match their foundation matches twice over.

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Along with Pakistan, Canada, you name it every possible country in the world contributes to this eradication of polio.

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So, it's an important global initiative and that's why we celebrate World Polio Day.

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Let's see, this year, when I say we're this close, I should say in 2016, there were something like 37 cases of polio worldwide, this year so far, there have been 11 cases and we're already in the end of October.

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Six have been in Afghanistan, five in Pakistan, none in Nigeria. Those are the three countries that still have polio present in them. Why does this matter? People say, well, that's just a very few cases of polio, but the fact is polio is only a plain flight away.

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In this international world, all one has to do with their infected, is get on a plane and come to another country and it spreads.

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A country is not declared polio free until they've been three years without any cases of polio.

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So, we're hopeful. Again, we're hopeful that we're going to be able to eradicate this major major disease that affects so many people.

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So, that's why it's important to celebrate World Polio Day, to continue to contribute to rotary activities and polio plus and remember that again, polio, which we believe has been eradicated in this country, is again, just that plain flight away from any country in the world.

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So, we're working very hard as Rotarians to eliminate this scourge and you'll see photos of Rotarians going to country's many of these men have been out in other foreign countries, giving the polio vaccine to children throughout the world.

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That's what Rotarians do because we're people of action. We see problems. We look at them. We try and solve them and we take action.

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And that's why we're here today. We want to thank you for this proclamation for recognizing World Polio Day and realizing our responsibility as both Rotarians and as leaders in this world to eradicate this particular disease that affects could affect right now so many thousands of people.

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Thank you so much.

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Well, first of all, as you can tell, Anne is a great representative of Rotary, and she certainly has a passion for polio plus.

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As a fellow Rotarian, I agree with you. I know there's been a tremendous effort by Rotarians and Rotary club throughout the world to eradicate it and we are close, so that's certainly a progress hopefully that we can eradicate with the next three years.

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So, thank you. And with that, surprise Patty, would you have comment?

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And I failed to mention, supervisor Patty is also a Rotarian.

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Sheriff is also a Rotarian. If there are other Rotarians in the audience, stand up please. Come on. Here's another member of our club here.

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Another Rotarian. Another Rotarian. Another Rotarian.

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Thank you. There's Adam. We're all over. We surround you.

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Thank you, Chairman. I was just going to remind down to say how proud I am to be Rotarian and to be part of this contribution to how impacting this around the world.

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We're going to change its families, the changes of lives, and it changes children's future.

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So, I'm a very proud Rotarian, and you guys named all the Rotarians here, I was going to pull off a few, but just really honored to be part of Rotary.

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And thank you guys for all being presidents and serving Rotary as diligently and dedicated as you are.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for bringing this proclamation to the Board of Supervisors because a supervisor Patty, it's become something public and that's important.

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So we're going to go that over here. Okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Moving on to the minutes.

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Measure the Board.

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I can motion to approve minutes.

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Back in.

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Please catch your vote.

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Dr. Five Zero.

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Vice Chairman of Equita, appointments, board and commissions.

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Thank you, Chairman.

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We have four positions to the Workforce Development Board.

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First position.

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Community-based organization, education and training for clients with barriers for representative Miss Anita Maldenado.

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Second position.

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Adult education and literacy representatives. Miss Carol Hirotata.

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The third position. Wagner.

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Kaiser EDD program representative.

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Miss Lorraine Perry.

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In the last position.

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Counciling County Prohibition representative.

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Miss Stephanie James.

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Make a motion. We approve all of the pointed.

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Second.

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Dr. Five Zero.

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We move on to public comment.

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I have two requests here.

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Bill was your item on government on consent item two.

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Is that the one you're referring to?

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No.

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Yeah.

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No.

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Item number two.

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Okay.

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Got it.

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Mayor, the cannabis issue.

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But the general, you're talking about consent calendar.

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Okay.

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Discussion.

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Right.

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Oh, got it.

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Okay. Got it.

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Okay.

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That's what I need to know. Thank you.

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And then.

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District newer.

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This is on consent item.

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Five is that correct?

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Got it.

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Okay.

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So any other public comments that those are already agendaized?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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All right.

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The others.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Seeing no one on public comment will move on to consent calendar.

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It has be pulled one.

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Any other items for the board.

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Item number eight, please.

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Any other?

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Any.

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Pull item six.

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Item 10.

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Okay.

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Seeing no other request.

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All right.

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Item number one.

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This one.

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Okay.

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Item number one.

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Madam.

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Kathleen.

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Hello.

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What is the provided?

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Um.

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Stockton.

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Municipal Airport.

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Is not San Francisco.

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It's stocked in.

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Why would you want to do it?

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Free go further.

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Let me just.

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That's the discussion item one.

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By the way, I think Mark, you're going to pull that item.

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Yes.

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As far as discussion item number one, which is from the airport.

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The authorization approval of name change for the stock metropolitan airport.

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We're asking that that item county council and the airport directors asking that that item be continued.

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Based on some correspondence that was received late yesterday.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's it.

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Item number six.

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Chicago.

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Board.

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The Department of Water Resources provided us a grant in 2014 to handle two major concepts.

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One developed emergency plans for review maintain agencies and.

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Develop flood fight maps,

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The same agencies.

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In addition, the also funded.

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Us to work with the five cities of the Delta that's low die stocked in later.

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Mentica and Tracy and Mountain House.

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To revise their emergency plans in order to respond to flooding.

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And that was about 1.6 million dollars.

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We're down to the point where.

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We had to either terminate the activities.

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Or as for an extension.

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And because of the work that we did do the Department of Resources is offering a one year extension.

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The other reason why.

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This amendment is required to to extend is that.

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They're allowing us to take some cost savings.

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We had in planning and flood fight mapping and put it down into training and exercises.

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Those two both require.

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An amendment and so this will this with amendment will do will provide us.

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A one year extension and move approximately $161,000 in to the training and exercises.

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And this is round one and they do a series of them up coming will be around two in the Delta.

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Region in addition.

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We are working on a state with called statewide.

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It includes the unincorporated area and the cities of Esquan and Ripon.

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Outside of the Delta boundaries.

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We have two consecutive.

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Countywide to be prepared for flooding.

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Judy, did you have a comment?

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Good morning, Board. Good morning, chair.

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My comment was actually related to this subject matter.

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I had it on five, but I'll speak to six.

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And it's related to the flood preparedness element.

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Once again, Chris Newdeck, with Kelsen Signic and Newdeck, we're civil engineers here in town.

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Also a member of your water advisory committee.

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I'm speaking on behalf of the flood preparedness for this up and coming flood season.

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I was before you several weeks ago to speak about the likely threat of additional floods coming this season with the high

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Reservoir condition in the likely rain events.

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Mike just referred.

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Michael, this referred to round two funds.

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The county has been notified of the award, which is another $3.8 million coming to Sam King County.

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For emergency response.

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Unfortunately, do the Orville situation in the states inability to move things along as quickly as we would

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like to see this award came late in the season.

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And we were somewhat frustrated given that about 800,000 of that.

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He ever take almost of the county's award was to come to the local reclamation districts in the form of emergency flood

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flood materials.

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And that comes in the form of a container.

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Metal container.

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Like you'd see, shipping container.

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Fill the Sandbag's Visc Queen.

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First, what we call first strike, first event.

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You know, when the flood first starts to kind of get the operation undergoing.

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Because the monies are late, the county doesn't have the funds within.

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It's a coffers to actually get that program started before the flood season.

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The state understood that was a condition.

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And actually, if agreed, once the notice of the award was received, that enemies can start

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prespending for a fight at their willing to prespend.

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I know this is not an action item.

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I'm encouraging the board to look and consider prespending to purchase those containers and flood

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fight materials prior to the flood's commencing in January.

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It's about $750,000.

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We anticipate, based on what we're seeing that the contract should flow by the end of the year,

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to write on that bubble as far as what we may end up seeing from the standpoint of cashflow.

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I understand how difficult it is to pull three cards a million dollars out of the general fund.

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The fund this.

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But I just recommend that it be some consideration towards this.

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Because absent this, we wait till next year.

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We miss another flood event without having that pre-preparedness.

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First strike material.

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But thank you for your opportunity to speak.

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Thank you.

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County Council, in regards to their requests, is that taking a separate agenda item to be noticed?

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Or is it part of this to get right and where item five?

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I believe that would take a separate agenda item.

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So we can put it on the agenda for the next meeting.

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Okay.

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And I'm sure Mr. Cocker will work up a board letter to address that.

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Okay.

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Good.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Cocker.

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And it regards to flood prevention.

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And I sat through two presentations of the Central Valley Flood Protection Plan.

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And I guess my concern is that, you know, far of a lot of resources, which is responsible for that particular plan.

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And making sure that, you know, the communities within the state are protected from possible floods.

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But they never talk about the issue of storage in regards to managing our rivers, or especially a macolomy, which we had some breaches on.

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Certainly a potential on the Saladin.

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And so I guess the question is, do they actually talk about the potential, not just of flood prevention by virtue of levees and.

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And canals and other drainage conveyances.

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But they ever consider that.

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By virtue of increasing storage allows us a greater opportunity to manage the flows, which then obviously affect the stress on the levees, etc.

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I'm aware that there is a couple reservoirs are being considered.

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As down in the lower, I mean, the upper end of the semiconductor river up in the pine flat area, militant lake area.

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And in the other one, I believe is one of the PG&E sites.

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I believe is on the macolomy.

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The biggest thing right now that a lot of resources in California, OES is doing is launched at a two-prong effort.

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One is that the state OES will be requiring all the dam operators to revise their emergency plans and have the state review those.

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To make sure they're adequate, at least to address problems with their current reservoirs.

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The other big major impact will be departing water resources.

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It will be launching inspections and reviews of the safety factors of the of the dams.

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And especially spillways due to the orville.

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So that's the short term goal of the state.

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At least for the the reservoirs that are supervised and suspected by the state inspectors.

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However, the long-term storage plan, that's only two, I'm aware of that there is a couple out there.

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But it's not a major effort right now.

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It's is getting on top of the reservoirs that they have to make sure they're safe enough.

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Well, as they concerned that some of the your commissioners, what are, why do your water commissioners is that.

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Even though we have our, our conference calls now reset up for this year with all the dam operators and all the local jurisdictions that are affected by that.

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That are affected by them.

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Is there is a hint of secrecy of these dam operators exposing some weaknesses in spillways and their structures.

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So I think the one thing that this new requirement by the state is going to try to resolve that.

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Even the emergency responders like us, they're tend to be very, very secret of not sharing of threat.

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So that's one thing I think this conference call is going to be doing this year.

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There's allow us to have a voice with there would be on the line to challenge the type of concerns.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Chairman.

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Quick question on the storage containers and the preparedness that's been, Chris had mentioned.

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And that we're discussing what exactly is inside the containers and what's the, what's the utilization that we want to consider bringing it.

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It's covering the expenses in advance.

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Okay, there's actually four aspects about that, the dollar figure one is we have seven containers already.

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And because of the potential threats of this year, we're not going to put those back into our storage facility.

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We're going to keep them deployed out there.

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They also were drawn down.

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So one thing that the funding will do is to to bring us back out to the level standard that they are fully re-equipped.

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What, what these things do is they have enough material in there to do a flood fight for about a mile with a levy.

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The viscreen, the heavy plastic, the sandbags, the hard hats, the shovels and such hammers, etc.

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So that'll bring our seven back up to stockpile.

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The other thing is there's only one piece of equipment that can move these.

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It's a piece of equipment called side lifters.

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It's a truck to actually takes the container.

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It's a shipping container and put it on the back of the truck and deliver it.

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What we want to do is convert them to roll off so that you can take any type of truck that can take a roll off container like a garbage truck and deliver them faster.

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The other aspect would be to just buy a lot more sandbags and viscreen and stuff to have it as a feeder to the levy agencies as they draw down.

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So what this grant will do is in addition to those, there's 48 levy agencies that participated in this first round.

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What the DWRs can actually do, they normally require them to have these resources, but because they deployed all theirs and depleted and don't have enough money,

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we'll have them to restock because of the amount of money they put out to spread fight.

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What resources offering to buy each one of them, a storage container that has fully stocked with the DWR recommended supply.

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So again, it's hard hacks, shovels, viscreen, the wire to hold down the viscreen, the stakes they use, the drive into the ground, the whole the viscreen down.

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So it's about a one mile flood fight opportunity.

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The disadvantage right now is that even though water resources has a major storage facility, just down the street, the in the Weber,

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it could take up to three or four hours to get water resources down here to open up.

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And the bad thing about it is that when you draw resources out of the state center, you have to buy that same amount of resources and restock their facility.

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It almost cost twice as much then for forgetting it.

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They'd rather just write a check.

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So this is the tradeoff is while resources will actually buy them the container and place it on site.

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And then that way every year they just can restock the few supplies they draw out of there.

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You'd mentioned sandbagging.

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Is that material in included inside those trailers?

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The only thing that they would have to be required to get is the sand.

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So that's one reason why when we proclaim, we can actually buy on behalf of jurisdictions.

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So this year we were helping get sand out there.

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They would fill the sandbags and we would charge them for the sand.

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So the only thing that they won't have is just the sand.

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And the crews like the conservation court actually help lay the sandbags.

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But this will give them all the resources they need for one mile flood flight.

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Thank you very much.

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See you guys early.

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Thank you Mr. Chairman.

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Continuing on that discussion there, these additional containers that you're talking about that DWR wants to provide.

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Is that a separate grant process that included in any way in this grant that we're looking at today?

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No, this is what we're looking at today is the first round.

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And we actually met with a lot of resources yesterday on the second round.

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We thought that grant was going to be active back in March and April.

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But because they got into their own flood flight, they delayed.

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So what they're doing is they're now targeting the 14th December for me to be able to bring you word to you.

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They thought it was going to be the fifth.

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But they decided with their legal that they needed a couple weeks.

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But because they already have allocated the money to us, we know how much we're going to get.

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They know what the materials are because they did fund a couple other counties the same opportunity.

438
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:32,000
And that actually had worked where one particular recommendation district bought five or six through the state grants.

439
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,000
And then passed through those resources out to the field and in soft reimbursement.

440
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
So it is a proven process.

441
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000
It's just right now that the award is delayed.

442
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
But they know we're going into a flood situation.

443
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,000
And they want to have tried to get those resources out there.

444
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:56,000
So that's the offer they're making is the grantee can go ahead and spend now.

445
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,000
And then request reimbursement without jeopardizing the award.

446
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Okay. So what you're describing then is the same thing that Mr. New deck was talking about.

447
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Correct.

448
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Thank you.

449
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Anything else?

450
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Thank you.

451
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Item number eight.

452
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Thank you.

453
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,000
I just wanted to pull this for a second.

454
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Is a really exciting new public private partnership that the county's participating in.

455
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
And then I know that the director John Mendelssohn is here.

456
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I wanted to give him an opportunity to make a few comments if he wanted to.

457
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But this is this has been in the works for about a year.

458
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And we are very fortunate in Samokin County to have.

459
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Private members of our community that are willing to step up in such a significant way.

460
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000
To address some of the issues that that are present in our in our county.

461
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000
So great thanks to everyone involved in Mr. Mendelssohn.

462
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Do you want to make a few comments?

463
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Thank you.

464
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Thank you supervisor. I appreciate that.

465
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,000
And thank you to the rest of the board and to the chair of this opportunity as well.

466
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,000
In 2016 Samokin County and City of Stockton officials along with homeless service providers.

467
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Took a trip to New York to investigate a program that houses the homeless and reduces criminal recidivism.

468
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,000
This vote today is the direct result of that trip as is ready to work,

469
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,000
which was for and to take the best lessons from New York and put them into practice here.

470
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000
It took many people to get to this point.

471
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,000
And I wish I had time to thank them all, but I'm going to thank a few of them anyway.

472
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Particularly Sheriff Steve Moore.

473
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000
District Attorney Tory Verber Salazar.

474
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Public defender Miriam Lael.

475
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Probation Chief Stephanie James.

476
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Judge Richard Lavianos.

477
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Supervisor Kathy Miller.

478
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Chair Chuck Win.

479
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000
County staff and the Sheriff's personnel who worked on this lease.

480
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,000
The many homeless service providers who work on the front lines every day, including my father.

481
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000
And of course, the ready to work board.

482
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Anthony Barcat and Dia Spannos Berberian are here today.

483
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000
And I'd like to thank them. I also want to thank William Treza.

484
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
David Richwin and Rupert Hall.

485
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,000
They really deserve special recognition today because they have the vision for this program.

486
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,000
And they decided to put their own resources on the line to make it happen.

487
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Thanks to these people and many others.

488
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,000
We already have partnerships to provide our clients with skills and work certifications.

489
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Mental health care, physical health care, permanent housing links, and other services.

490
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:58,000
And with your approval of this lease today, we'll also be able to offer transitional housing, which is a cornerstone of the program.

491
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Support is one of the reasons that we're confident going forward. We're also assured by the results of the

492
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:14,000
program that we seek to emulate. More than 78% of its participants retain their employment six months after graduation,

493
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:22,000
and for every $1 spent on that program, taxpayers save $3.60 in emergency services.

494
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000
While ready to work, we'll fill a gap in our local response to homelessness.

495
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:33,000
This project alone will not completely solve the issue of housing insecurity in San Joaquin County.

496
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:40,000
That will take a universal approach, one that strengthens our existing institutions, instead of weakening them.

497
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,000
So I hope that we all remember the organizations and people who've worked hard on this issue for many years,

498
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,000
without them the problem we face would be even more dire today.

499
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:57,000
That said, my board and I are eager to play our part, and with your vote, we're ready to get to work.

500
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Thank you very much.

501
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Thank you.

502
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Thank you.

503
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Just make a brief comment. Certainly all those individuals you mentioned.

504
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:13,000
I know there's a lot of others are critical in regards to justice, but I do have to mention that Sheriff Moore has been

505
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:24,000
really actively pursuing not only allowing the portion of the jail, which is no longer used,

506
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:32,000
and then of course the future as we as he has fought for funds to build a new meeting security facility.

507
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,000
As other barracks open up, then we can expand the program, even more participants.

508
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Hopefully as it grows, we're able to, as John says, to say the taxpayer money considering that in homeless world,

509
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:55,000
the two most expensive places to house the homeless, and unfortunately they are there, are the jails.

510
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000
And for emergency care, the emergency rooms and hospitals.

511
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,000
So by virtue of this, hopefully we can reduce that that cost and certainly provide a better life for those who participate.

512
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,000
So I don't think the Sheriff on is a vision, which we'll continue.

513
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Okay, I have a number, yeah, surprise, Patty.

514
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Thank you, Chairman.

515
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
John had a quick follow up on that.

516
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:25,000
What's the anticipated number of people you guys are prepared to bring into the housing and

517
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,000
I know there's wraparound sources, there's a multitude, maybe you can give some brief overview.

518
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,000
It's phenomenal what you guys have brought to the county in this opportunity.

519
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,000
I'd also want to thank the families that have been involved.

520
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
You know, Spanish, Barquette, Filiose, you've got Barquettes.

521
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,000
You've got Deon Barbarians, Hall, Richmond, and all of them have stepped up and more.

522
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Really applaud all of them and your efforts to get this far.

523
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Just give us a little overview, perhaps on what this is going to look like in the coming year or two.

524
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Sure, well, we envision populating in phases growing organically.

525
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:07,000
We foresee an initial capacity of 45 beds to be open.

526
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Of course, that'll partially depend upon the various funding sources that ultimately we're able to put together.

527
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000
But that's our vision.

528
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Hopefully, by the end of next year, we'll be fully up to 45 people.

529
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,000
We hope to graduate those individuals.

530
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Before they reach 12 months in the program.

531
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,000
And when we get on our feet and really get rolling, we hope that that turnover will be even greater,

532
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,000
so that we can reach more and more people as we get further and further along.

533
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
I think it's not standing public and private partnership.

534
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000
I want to applaud everybody in your organization that you're representing in the sheriff and the partnership.

535
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
I see it's a one year lease for a dollar.

536
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
At year two, we bring that to a dollar 50.

537
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,000
I think we might be able to find the change.

538
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,000
If it comes to be for the board, thank you.

539
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,000
Thank you.

540
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Are there any questions?

541
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

542
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Yes, following up on that question about the initial intent for 45 people.

543
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:23,000
I see that the actual capacity is 138 in those three barracks.

544
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:31,000
So is that part of the long range plan to initially expand to be able to provide services to 138 people as well?

545
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000
The capacity that you see on those barracks is under the current configuration as a correctional facility.

546
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,000
The way it is now there are these individual pods in the barracks, sort of like pony walls.

547
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,000
And those are set up two with two bunks per I believe.

548
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Sure, please correct me if I'm misrepresenting any of this.

549
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:03,000
We envision a one person per pod to try to give them a little bit greater sense of privacy and ownership in their space and in the program.

550
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Some of the pods we envision not utilizing initially because we're going to need common space that may need to be reconfigured.

551
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Depending upon the success of the program and the buy-in we get from other partners and other units of government.

552
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,000
We're hoping to increase our capacity beyond 45 to 90.

553
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:37,000
We've had conversations that suggest we would be able to expand beyond that given the proper resource environment.

554
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,000
And so we're hopeful to do that that is part of the long range plan.

555
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Thank you.

556
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Yes?

557
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Okay.

558
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Thanks very much.

559
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Thank you.

560
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Okay.

561
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Thank you.

562
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,000
I'm sorry.

563
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Thank you.

564
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
I'm going to introduce myself.

565
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
That's what come behalf of the Human Resources Department.

566
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:26,000
The reason I call our full this item is simply I appreciate one of the colleagues and staff that have been doing the hospital.

567
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,000
There's been a number of changes over the past two years, three years.

568
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:37,000
But what I would like to know about this particular change.

569
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:45,000
How well that function regards to the CEO and the vision to the CEO as far as the operational hospital.

570
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:54,000
And what do you envision as being the positive outcome in regards to this particular change?

571
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Chairman Wayne, you happy to address that here.

572
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Thank you.

573
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:02,000
This is a direct report to me or the CEO of the San Joaquin General Hospital Chief Operating Officer.

574
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:12,000
We'll have duties for the operations of the Ancillary Support Team, a key integrator with the relationship with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

575
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Doing additional development activities on campus site.

576
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000
We will have a number of projects over the next several years.

577
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:27,000
Where we do have the large project underway of the replacement facility of the 1932 tower.

578
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:35,000
But we have a number of other smaller projects that will require close integration with external vendors and contractors.

579
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000
And also within our internal teams here as well.

580
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,000
I think the biggest change I see here we've been operating as a.

581
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:50,000
We had a retirement of the deputy senior deputy director in March of 2016.

582
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:57,000
I've been operating with a very capable interim chief operating officer on a contract basis.

583
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:07,000
I think the benefit clearly is by finding someone that is county employed will have a stronger buy-in longer term commitment to the facility to the project to the duties of the role.

584
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,000
And I think it's a, again, much the way that I took over as an interim basis.

585
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,000
And then we came CEO here.

586
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
I think the commitment is greater.

587
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,000
And I think they'll continue to be on going member of our community.

588
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:28,000
I think it would be that the third thing that we were the last thing would be important to help people to find somebody that would be on going part of our community.

589
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000
All right. I appreciate that. Any questions?

590
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Thank you very much.

591
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Thank you.

592
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Okay. That ends the consent items pleasure of the board.

593
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
I'll make a motion to approve the consent items as submitted.

594
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Second.

595
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Thank you.

596
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Dr. Five Zero.

597
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Okay. Moving on to discussion items. We've already pulled item number one item number two.

598
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:15,000
Good morning, Chairman members of the board.

599
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
I'd want to convene the County Administrator.

600
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,000
And I have Connie Hart here who will be working our PowerPoint and who has done a lot of the work.

601
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Once you start seeing a number of the grant programs we have applied for as a result of the funding mechanism for the position before you today.

602
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:43,000
We are recommending today for the board to approve the jobs specifications for the new position of program administrator of homeless initiatives within the County Administrator's office.

603
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,000
To give you a little background in regards to how we came to today.

604
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:59,000
The homeless task force was officially created in February of 2016 and the first annual report came before this board of supervisors in November of 16.

605
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:14,000
One key aspect of the November report was the recommendation that the board considered the creation of a new leadership position to provide oversight of the homeless task force as it transitions to the continuum of care model.

606
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Other key recommendations of the task force was the establishment of the strategic priorities on homelessness, which this board adopted back in February of this year of 2017.

607
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:37,000
During the final budget hearings, your board directed the County Administrator to work with the human resources with human resources to develop job specifications better before you today.

608
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
But also as part of that conversation back in June.

609
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:47,000
This board has always been very diligent in one of its strategic priorities of having a structurally balanced budget.

610
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,000
It was extremely important as part of that conversation to look at other resources in order to fund this position.

611
00:55:53,000 --> 00:56:03,000
And as you'll see today that there are some in-kind contributions along with the in-kind contributions that are going as part of the ready to work lease that you just approved today.

612
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:14,000
There will be some in-kind that the County facilities general services did a lot of work in regards to coordinating that lease and that there are some in-kind in regards to that effort also.

613
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:23,000
So I want to make sure that the board also knows even though we're trying to find grant funds for the facility, but also this position.

614
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:32,000
There are some in-kind obligations that I am recommending as a result of the funding for this position.

615
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:40,000
Working in collaboration with the homeless task force led by supervisor Miller, the County Administrators office and other stakeholders.

616
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Worked with human resources and developed the jobs specifications and salary recommendations for the new position, which will initially reside in the County Administrators office.

617
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:57,000
And that's important also because we may see as this goes forward that this may be more relevant to our housing authority.

618
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:10,000
As you heard as part of last Tuesday's discussion with the city of Lodi, there's some very good collaborative efforts going on when it comes to permanent housing and as Mr Ragdale mentioned, you know.

619
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Head, unfortunately, they changed the guidelines often and they're the ones that typically are well aware of it before a number of us.

620
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Some in regards to address those issues especially among our homeless population.

621
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:34,000
So we may see in the future or it could end up being that it may be more relevant within our healthcare services department who do provide a lot of the wrap around related services to our homeless population.

622
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:42,000
This position will oversee a more re-robust re-energized continuum of care.

623
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:50,000
The formation of the countywide plan for homeless prevention and housing strategies reporting on the effectiveness of existing programs and initiatives.

624
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Working in collaboration with the continuum of care to solidify and advance the momentum of our housing task force.

625
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:09,000
That is definitely extremely important to this community that momentum that has been shared both by the public agencies but also are nonprofits and also are private parties as you're seeing in the ready to work.

626
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,000
We've had a number of folks come to the table in order to address this issue in our community.

627
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Within the continuum of care framework, we're recommending the development within this job class policy regarding homelessness activities throughout our communities.

628
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
The effectiveness along with the evaluation of the programs.

629
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:38,000
This sport has always been good whether it's in our community correction, partnership, whether it's in first five whether it's just the programs that we provide as a county.

630
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:46,000
The effectiveness and our effective monitoring are those programs because if it's not working, why would we continue to do the same process.

631
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Also develop and provide training enhance our use of available technology and make data-driven decisions as it relates to homelessness in San Joaquin County.

632
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:06,000
This is extremely important because as we have seen, just getting together on the numbers and how to respond to our various cities to assist us in funding this position.

633
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:15,000
We Mr. Mendelson was extremely helpful in providing us that information of the most recent count, but yet we have also been informed as part of this process.

634
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:23,000
There are technical assistance with our with the HUD program that we could be asking a number of additional questions as a result of that head count.

635
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:35,000
And also as part of that provide a centralized data system that provides some of that insight so that we can respond at a greater level of detail when we apply for grants.

636
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:44,000
And respond to the various constituency of our communities that are these people really coming from the communities and where they're currently residing.

637
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:50,000
I think that's a real critical one that we'd really like to get some verification on.

638
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Next slide shows the project of salary and benefits costs of the new position through fiscal year 2021.

639
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,000
It's roughly six hundred and twenty six thousand and five dollars.

640
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:17,000
I thought it was extremely important to provide a funding plan and I believe I mentioned that during our final budget hearings in June, to have a three-year funding plan in place for the position to give it time necessary to measure its successes.

641
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:26,000
All overhead costs, as I mentioned earlier, will be borne by the county as in-kind contributions at approximately 50,000 annually.

642
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:33,000
This slide outlines the various potential funding sources the county has identified and applied for this far.

643
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:40,000
A lot of that work has been done by Ms. Hart, a deputy administrative officer in my office.

644
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:48,000
And how the participation of our four largest cities stopped in mode I, Tracy and Manteca are critical to the success of this effort.

645
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
As you can see, several of the funding sources have been identified.

646
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:02,000
One in particular, in fact, it's going to happen tomorrow, both supervisor Miller and Ms. Hart will be before our executive board of our CCP.

647
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:09,000
And we are asking for roughly one year's salary of the position tomorrow as part of that discussion.

648
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:15,000
We were held to the same accountability as any other participant that applies for funds as part of that.

649
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:22,000
We had to fill out our application address what the goals are and what other funding sources.

650
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,000
And as you can see, we are showing reflecting that.

651
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:34,000
That's the second line item on the table at 167,856 in it is specified as one time.

652
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:41,000
Moving forward, the county administrator is committed to continue seeking out and applying for available resources for funding.

653
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:47,000
As you can see, the various list of items, the one item for the 129,000.

654
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:54,000
Our community development department is the lead agency in assisting our office and trying to apply for those funds.

655
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:00,000
So we have learned a lot also as an organization and what opportunities are out there.

656
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:08,000
We are requesting that the four largest cities stopped in mode I, Manteca and Tracy to make a commitment based upon the percentage of the homeless population that reside in each country.

657
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:17,000
The homeless population that reside in each one of their cities as a result of the most recent homeless count in April of 2017.

658
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:25,000
The requested funding from the cities is intended to provide funding for the backfill, any shortfall that we may experience.

659
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:35,000
You'll notice the low end of the range is estimated based upon the county's success and obtaining funding from the already identified grant funds.

660
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:45,000
The high end of the range is estimated based upon if the county is unsuccessful in obtaining funding from the already identified sources.

661
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:55,000
Clearly as additional sources of funding are obtained, the necessary financial contributions from the cities will decrease.

662
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,000
Our next steps for a long request as a result of this board's actions,

663
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:06,000
stopped and has received a formal request along with low dye as a result of last Tuesday nights,

664
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:15,000
meeting which I really appreciated the mayor and the council's openness and consideration of it and this board and our chair going forward with that request.

665
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:24,000
We will put forward formal request to the cities of Manteca and Tracy addressing their participating in the funding of this position.

666
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Conversations will continue with those four cities regarding the opportunity to partner with the county.

667
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
All important tasks of tackling the issues of homelessness.

668
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:40,000
Right now, the money that the county receives does not just does not identify homelessness.

669
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:49,000
A lot of the new money that we're getting as you know, Director Dietrich, but before this board, a no place like home grant.

670
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Home our homeless population is identified there in our human services department.

671
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,000
We receive very limited money when it comes to housing, especially permanent housing.

672
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,000
It's very much about transitional housing.

673
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,000
So as a county beyond some of the new dollars we have received most recently.

674
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:15,000
We do not receive on a routine basis or even historically a lot of funds that are directed just to homelessness.

675
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:23,000
That's why this board, you have often heard about us trying to expand our count even with our veterans for our homeless vouchers.

676
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
That has been something until just the last few years.

677
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:33,000
We have really become very serious about to make sure our numbers are accurate, especially among our veterans population.

678
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:41,000
The county will continue to seek out the apply for available funding and the ongoing cost of the current position we're bringing before you.

679
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:49,000
We plan to only recruit until such time that we have 12 months of full funding achieved.

680
01:04:49,000 --> 01:05:01,000
In the meantime, we are continuing to take advantage of the technical assistance grant that our county was awarded to develop objectives in milestones for our homeless.

681
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,000
For both a 12 month 24 and 36 month period.

682
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,000
This concludes my presentation this morning.

683
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Chair and board members, and I am happy along with Ms. Hart.

684
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Can I respond to any questions you may have.

685
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Any questions?

686
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:27,000
No, Mr. Minnes.

687
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,000
Thank you, Chairman Wynn.

688
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,000
I do not oppose the concept of a homeless services coordinator.

689
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:44,000
I am here today to speak in opposition to the proposed action and in opposition to the underlying draft job description it represents.

690
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,000
When a homeless task force proposed the idea of some type of homeless services coordinator,

691
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:55,000
it did not necessarily recommend that the position be a county employee.

692
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:05,000
But the task force recommended was that the task force should evolve into the existing continuum of care and a position be created to support that effort.

693
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:14,000
By federal rule, a continuum of care is supposed to be a community-wide entity that plans and improves the system of care for people experiencing homelessness.

694
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:21,000
The current job description would turn the existing continuum of care into an extension of the county administrator's office,

695
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,000
not the independent body the federal statute says it's supposed to be.

696
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:32,000
The draft job description related to today's proposed actions based on a false premise.

697
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:41,000
That premise is was that the joint meeting between this board and the low-dicity council was that the existing continuum of care has been a,

698
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,000
an, quote, failure, unquote.

699
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:51,000
By extension, the project's funded through the continuum of care dollars over the years have been branded as failures.

700
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,000
None of those conclusions are based on fact.

701
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:05,000
Over more than 20 years, the COC and the projects have brought into the county the maximum amount of funds available through the national allocation process.

702
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,000
In the past five years, that's been close to 23 million dollars.

703
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:19,000
The only year there was a reduction was when HUD decided it knew better than local communities what projects should be funded.

704
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,000
And that happened to communities across the nation.

705
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:28,000
The following year, when the COC made clear that hundreds of thousands of more dollars were threatened.

706
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:38,000
Unfortunately, there was no action by sandwiching county or any of the cities to prevent that potential loss.

707
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:50,000
COC projects have consistently met and exceeded goals and objectives set by both the projects themselves and by the federal government.

708
01:07:50,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Those include including the numbers of homeless assisted numbers of homeless who have obtained and maintained permanent housing and numbers of homeless who've increased their incomes.

709
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:08,000
If the board is concerned about the increasing numbers of people experiencing homelessness or the length of time people remain homeless.

710
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:16,000
Or similar performance measures, it should be concerned about the performance of programs not receiving COC funds.

711
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:22,000
COC funded projects have actually exceeded all federal expectations.

712
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,000
They have real impact on homelessness and housing county.

713
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,000
The scope description should be revised and informed with federal rules.

714
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:38,000
And to build upon the success of the existing continuum of care, rather than radically altering a continuum that's brought millions of dollars to

715
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:43,000
the Silicon County each year and house thousands of homeless households.

716
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:51,000
Along with, I just want to pass along the letter and memo that I sent to the board and county administrator.

717
01:08:51,000 --> 01:09:04,000
And as evidence of what projects have done, the last three annual performance reports from the primary permanent support of housing project.

718
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Thank you.

719
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,000
Thank you.

720
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:26,000
I think it's important to note that everyone has tremendous respect for the work that's been done in the past.

721
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,000
But that.

722
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:37,000
I think there's a general sense by most of the residents in San Joaquin County that we can.

723
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:45,000
And we need to do more and sometimes that requires some different strategies.

724
01:09:45,000 --> 01:10:04,000
I want to confirm with our CAO that this job description has been developed in partnership with our technical assistance folks at HUD to ensure that it does conform with federal requirements.

725
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,000
Supervisor Miller, we have forwarded the job description to our representative.

726
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,000
I did not ask her that question, but I definitely will.

727
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:19,000
I don't know if Miss Hart has we forwarded it early on in the process.

728
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
Did we receive any feedback?

729
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Yes, we did receive quite a bit of positive feedback.

730
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:38,000
They noted that the job description uses words such as coordinates and administrators and supports and facilitates rather than dreads.

731
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,000
And I believe that that was exactly what they were looking for.

732
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,000
Thank you.

733
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:55,000
And I want to make sure it's understood that this is also not a criticism of county staff that has been working with the continuum of care.

734
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,000
Nor any of the agencies that ever see funding through the continuum of care.

735
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:04,000
It's really our attempt to take our efforts to the next level.

736
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:11,000
And so it is certainly our intention to continue working very closely with HUD.

737
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:24,000
The feedback that I've received personally from HUD has been that this is exactly what they do want to see going forward for the future of continuums of care.

738
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:31,000
And so I don't in any way think that that this is done today.

739
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:36,000
I really appreciate all of the staff work that's gone into this.

740
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,000
Especially in terms of looking for the funding.

741
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:45,000
It is a the highest priority for this boards to maintain a structurally balanced budget.

742
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:53,000
I appreciate the fact that we're going to continue working and keep the conversations going to secure this.

743
01:11:53,000 --> 01:12:04,000
Secure this grant funding before we begin recruitment so that there's some certainty not only for us, but also for any individual that might be interested in this position.

744
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:19,000
I think that's critical to attracting someone with the experience level that will truly understand and and take this effort.

745
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,000
I don't know why to to a higher level for all of us.

746
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:43,000
We've been really careful to use words like re energizing re rebuilding, re strengthening, supporting as opposed to eliminating or or removing or directing those kind of things.

747
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,000
I think one of the things we've learned.

748
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:57,000
Over the last few years of the task force is how important this county wide collaboration is and that we don't want to see this collaboration in this momentum.

749
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:05,000
Backslide and having an individual that is going to be responsible for making sure that that happens.

750
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:11,000
I think certainly the members of the task force agree that it's an important position.

751
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:20,000
I appreciate all the comments I know there will be more to moving this forward, but I appreciate the board.

752
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Taking a look at this today and authorizing our staff to move forward in such a thoughtful financially sustainable way.

753
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Thank you.

754
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Thank you, Chairman.

755
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:49,000
I guess for the homeless committee that was organized in conjunction to the county like this or chair and and supervisor Miller.

756
01:13:49,000 --> 01:14:02,000
Were there any outside agencies that would equally serve what this position would offer or what what was your guys findings through that committee that you put together.

757
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:12,000
But you know in the says days as hiring somebody versus maybe another agency that could utilize and do the same types of tasks.

758
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:20,000
The task force didn't make as I recall specific recommendations about the position.

759
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:27,000
It was the recommendation was that the county move forward with developing.

760
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:38,000
A coordinator position and it was really left open ended to the county to decide that and I think that's behind.

761
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,000
Administrator Nino's comments that for now.

762
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:52,000
We want to provide as much support as possible and so the position is being created within county administrator's office and I think there was board feedback that.

763
01:14:52,000 --> 01:15:00,000
I think it's located support for that location initially, but I don't think anybody's ruling out in the future that perhaps.

764
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,000
This position will migrate to one of the provider organizations could be housing, if it could be any of them.

765
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:27,000
And I think I can't speak for everyone, but from my position, I think that will be part of what's developed through the county-wide strategic plan on homelessness, developing the 12, 24, and 36 months objectives.

766
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,000
And would really happen through the continuum of care with that continued collaborative effort.

767
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:43,000
Okay, thank you. And as a follow-up, the conclusion was that we would be best served hiring somebody versus an agency that's already perhaps in place.

768
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:52,000
So supervisor Patty, I would so value if somebody would step up and take on this leadership role.

769
01:15:52,000 --> 01:16:01,000
When I brought this question up, our two board members chair, when in supervisor Miller, I brought this up more than once on our technical assistance.

770
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:21,000
And it was very much directed at this point with their familiar with our community that they saw an extreme importance that my office was taking the lead and that we were taking the homeless task force strategic priorities.

771
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:31,000
So it is really looked very positively so far from HUD in our conference calls.

772
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:37,000
But I have yet to receive any nonprofit or any other agency reach out to me.

773
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:50,000
I have had a conversation at least a few times in Mr. Ragsdale's presence because I think one of the board strategies is a housing first model.

774
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:59,000
They are doing some very creative things in our housing authority. So that's probably the one I have focused on more so or in health care services.

775
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:08,000
But nobody has approached me and said, you know, Monica, I really think the community would be better served that it come from my area because I've got to tell you.

776
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000
I would be bringing that before this for today. I really would.

777
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:24,000
There's I have no ownership relative to this position and as you know, we have become more educated more informed of the things that we are doing good but also the things that we can enhance.

778
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:33,000
And possibly the opportunities we could have as a result of it just not just being county centric but also having our cities at the table.

779
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:41,000
And also the things that we can prove upon upon the limited meetings we have had in our existing continuum of care.

780
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:56,000
As supervisor Miller said, it's very much about enhancing what we are already doing and also becoming more informed so we could capitalize on the additional resources that we may not even be aware of.

781
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:11,000
And looking at the job description, there is a lot of benchmarks and objectives for the person that would be taking that position. Do we have any firm commitments from the potential partnerships that we have with our nearby cities?

782
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,000
None of our cities have committed so far.

783
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,000
And where are we supposed to.

784
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:23,000
What comes first? Are we getting commitments from them? Are we hiring and proceeding without a commitment?

785
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:29,000
I will come back to this board. So that's why we have other funding sources on the table.

786
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:36,000
So as I mentioned tomorrow, supervisor Miller and Miss Hart appear before the Executive Committee of the CCP.

787
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:45,000
So if say we're able to achieve between that and some of our other grants our first year then we would go out to recruit.

788
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:52,000
But if we do not get those commitments from the city, I would come back to this board and ask the question.

789
01:18:52,000 --> 01:19:03,000
If this is something, do we want to refocus this position? Do we want to focus more on housing and some of the things we're already doing as part of no place like home and those kinds of things?

790
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:11,000
Because I think there's some opportunities and possibly reshifting our priorities in that regard.

791
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:21,000
I don't want to go into it and any great detail because of course I haven't had a lot of time to spend with director B. Trick and others in that regard.

792
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:29,000
But I do think there's some opportunities that we would re-evaluate the approach as a result of the city's not participating.

793
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,000
Okay, so to be decided.

794
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,000
Yes.

795
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,000
Okay, thank you.

796
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,000
I think there's some real opportunities with our grant funds supervisor Patty.

797
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,000
I remain an optimist and very hopeful.

798
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,000
I love that about you.

799
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:51,000
I would just say I think one of the things I agree with both of the sub-resum delvering.

800
01:19:51,000 --> 01:20:04,000
One of the things that I know is in discussion regarding this particular position is that if you look at what's we have done and the comment was made to do more.

801
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:12,000
It isn't necessarily do more, it's to use the resources we currently have more effectively and efficiently because there's a lot going on.

802
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:17,000
The other part of it is, and again, I would agree with super-resum delvering.

803
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:24,000
It isn't the intent that this position were to begin with the county.

804
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:32,000
If you would always stay with the county, however, I would also offer that when you look at the overall makeup of the programs and certainly the discussion.

805
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,000
It's certainly the task force that you've had.

806
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:50,000
A major component or county agencies, whether it be, you know, the sheriff's department, for example, with the right to work program, whether it be our public health, behavior health, our hospital.

807
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:57,000
And so, you know, the district attorney's office, the public defender's office, the spirit court, I mean it goes on and on and on.

808
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:04,000
And these are all agencies that obviously work collaboratively within the county government system.

809
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:17,000
So I think, at least initially, what I see, or at least what I got from our meetings was that there's not particularly to work collectively from agencies who normally work together anyway.

810
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:24,000
However, having said that, once this is up and running and whether we have the funding in place and how we get that.

811
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:30,000
But, you know, there's nothing, I have no problem. I don't think anybody else in this board has a problem of moving that to some other organization.

812
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:36,000
You know, as long as they have the funding stream and wherewith all to accomplish the same goals.

813
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:44,000
I would add one more component, which I think the county has an advantage to some extent over other agencies, although they knew, I know they do lobby.

814
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:53,000
Is that I know supervisor Miller and myself, when we've been back to Washington, you see, with with height and other better agencies.

815
01:21:53,000 --> 01:22:00,000
We work very hard to provide funding for the continuum of care and other programs that would assist the homeless.

816
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:09,000
So my point is, is that, yes, I would agree with Ms. Nina, if someone was to step up and divide that position to take over.

817
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Well, at this point, I think it's, it's in the infancy stages, I think we need to start slow.

818
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:20,000
Gather momentum. At some point in time, there would be decision-made to move it to their agencies if they want to raise their hand.

819
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,000
Is that what you're doing, John Regan?

820
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:29,000
But anyway, that, but my point is, is that I think this is just the first step.

821
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:36,000
I don't think it's the end, but it's certainly a start, and I think that's the goal of the task force.

822
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:46,000
John, do you want to make a comment? Seven microphones so we can get it on date.

823
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,000
No, come up and speak.

824
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:57,000
Chair, if I could just piggyback real quickly on your comments before John gets started.

825
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:05,000
While I appreciate that down the road, this, this may migrate somewhere else, I do want to stress that over the last couple of years.

826
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:19,000
One of the key components that has led to the success of the task force and the continued participation, very robust participation in that task force, has been because the county stepped up as a convener.

827
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:30,000
And that's been a really critical role for the county to help break down those silos to get everybody there month after month to facilitate those conversations.

828
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:58,000
So I'm very supportive of this position being with the county, certainly initially, but perhaps permanently because we are the only entity that has that completely county-wide multiple perspective in terms of supportive services and housing, all the different, all the different services that are needed to address this problem.

829
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,000
So it has been a critical component for the county to convene, John.

830
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:08,000
Thank you and thank you for the opportunity. I'm sorry that I didn't fill out a card ahead of time.

831
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:15,000
I think there might be at least one other person in the audience who is hoping to say something to this particular item.

832
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:25,000
First of all, I want to thank Supervisor Miller, Chair Wynn and Administrator Monica Nino for their work to get to this point today.

833
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:38,000
I think we're all on the same page when it comes to finding ways and recognizing that it's important that we improve how our community addresses the problems of homelessness and housing and security.

834
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:54,000
The fact that you're having this conversation today, I think speaks volumes about how seriously you all have taken this issue and how serious it is to the community and I think that deserves a lot of recognition from the public.

835
01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:01,000
That said, I do have concerns about how this position will be structured and implemented.

836
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:06,000
I hope is that San Joaquin County gets the best results for its investment.

837
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:13,000
I just hope that we're taking advantage of the knowledge and strengths that already exist within our local system.

838
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:19,000
And I just wanted to point out a couple things that occurred to me while I was here.

839
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:26,000
First of all that the continuum of care does have a centralized data system, the homeless management information system.

840
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:32,000
It's the basis for our point in time count, for our housing inventory counts, our annual performance reports.

841
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:44,000
It's admitted to the consolidated plans, it's the basis for the continuum of care, grant applications, and more, and it's being used by efforts like whole person care.

842
01:25:44,000 --> 01:26:02,000
And I also want to note that when it comes to those continuum of care, housing grant applications, that the max level of available funding for permanent housing has been returned to this community given the constraints placed upon the community by housing and urban development.

843
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:14,000
And I just also want to point out that I'm a commissioner of the housing authority, and I appreciate all the partnership that the county is taking to work with executive director Peter Ragsdale.

844
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:24,000
He's done amazing things for the authority and is really moving this community forward when it comes to the issue of affordable housing, but the housing authority does not do housing first.

845
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:30,000
Housing authority does affordable housing for those who are in poverty, various levels of poverty.

846
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:36,000
Well, housing first is specifically about those who are chronically homeless.

847
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,000
So again, I just want to thank you, regardless of your decision today.

848
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:46,000
I want to thank you for all you've done the past two years to address homelessness.

849
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,000
Your supports already made a difference in how we talk about this issue locally.

850
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,000
And I look forward to working with you and the homeless administrator to help solve it.

851
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,000
So thanks again for your opportunity.

852
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,000
Thank you.

853
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

854
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:14,000
In the reasons for recommendation and portion to staff report, it talks about the San Joaquin County homelessness task force sunsetting early 2018.

855
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:22,000
And then the activities being transitioned to the San Joaquin County continuum of care is that still the overall plan.

856
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,000
Yes, supervisor.

857
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Okay, so then if the homelessness task force activities are being transitioned into the continuum of care, then is it also the intent that this position would be transition over into the department that managers the continuum of care.

858
01:27:45,000 --> 01:28:01,000
No supervisor, it would remain in the county administrator's office and then this position would take on some of those duties that currently take place in our community development department that address continuum of care.

859
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,000
Okay.

860
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:14,000
Well, in another part of the staff report now, it talks about and we've already discussed the somewhat where the position will not reside in the administrators office long term.

861
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:23,000
But would be transferred to another county department or outside agency.

862
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:27,000
So how does that square with what you just said?

863
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,000
It's consistent.

864
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:38,000
And so that's why as this board approved those priorities, this is primarily to not lose that momentum that the homeless task force has.

865
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:47,000
And so as you all know, my office does a number of things that are assigned to us as a result of various initiatives that this board directs towards my office.

866
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:53,000
So this is primarily us trying to continue that, but do it as part of our continuum of care process.

867
01:28:53,000 --> 01:29:00,000
And so that currently as I mentioned, a big portion of that takes place out of our community development department.

868
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,000
I will sit down with that director and we'll figure out what roles will continue with the continuum of care.

869
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,000
What portion will stay is continue to reside in community development.

870
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:21,000
But as I said, I have no ownership of all I want to do is see success on behalf of this board's initiative in seriousness about homelessness within our communities.

871
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:28,000
And also provide it to wherever it will be delivered the most effectively and efficiently to our citizens.

872
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:34,000
Okay, so it sounds like all options are still on the table on very much.

873
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:44,000
We're just doing this then to get the ball rolling and provide for some type of centralized oversight and coordination of the other.

874
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,000
And leadership and also funding.

875
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Yes, that's going to be my next question.

876
01:29:50,000 --> 01:30:00,000
Now in the funding plan portion here, there is only one of those line items that say one time with.

877
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:18,000
Well, there are two that say I'm going, but of the top four, there's only one that talks about one time with potential for a series of grants. Why are we precluded from having a series of grants in the other three?

878
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:28,000
So page two, or I assume you're on page two of the word letter. Yes, so we're talking about the hood planning grant is one time.

879
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:40,000
P funding request is one time. No place like home technical assistance is one time. Why are we precluded from applying multiple times to those sources?

880
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:51,000
That is a possibility. At this point though, they refer to them only as one time. So no place like home, that's a very new initiative.

881
01:30:51,000 --> 01:31:03,000
So 25,000 in the 150,000, that's a brand new grant. Okay, so all of them potentially could be a series of grants.

882
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:12,000
I remain hopeful. Right, okay. All right, great. I think we should continue looking at all of those and we should consider nothing at one time.

883
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,000
I have to give you my opinion.

884
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:26,000
Supervisor Lee, it's just very important for me to make sure I'm very transparent to both this board and also the public because they do a good example is even with our own CCP.

885
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:37,000
That is very specified as one time. I more than likely would not go back to the CCP unless there was an opportunity to go back. I really take it very seriously when it says one time.

886
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:47,000
So that's why I'm trying as I said, my goal is given within the priorities within what we have to accomplish out of my office.

887
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:55,000
We will continue to seek other resources just because in some instances when it does say one time they really do mean one time.

888
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:02,000
Okay, so in some cases then these actually would be we would be precluded from.

889
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:11,000
I do I right now with CCP. I take that very seriously as it will be in only one time.

890
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,000
Okay.

891
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:21,000
And then that brings us into the participation by the cities as well.

892
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:27,000
So as you said none of the cities have currently committed to contributing anything.

893
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,000
Correct.

894
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,000
Are we making any progress in that direction?

895
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,000
We will continue to reach out.

896
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:40,000
I very much valued the dialogue that happened in this chambers last Tuesday evening.

897
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:45,000
And from both the mayor and the city council and our chair and our board.

898
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:50,000
And so we will also do a formal request to both Mantic and Tracy also.

899
01:32:50,000 --> 01:33:00,000
We did I believe it might have been chair when who asked you know we would appreciate hearing either way of the direction what the pleasure of the council is.

900
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:05,000
And I would think we would have that also from the city of Stockton.

901
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,000
Great. Okay.

902
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:16,000
I'd like to just follow up a little bit on what we discussed that night when we were talking about the funding for this position.

903
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:21,000
And I think it was somewhat misconstrued.

904
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:26,000
I was told indirectly not directly from he ever made this statement.

905
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:33,000
That the county considered that the homelessness problem was a city problem not a county problem.

906
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:38,000
I just want to clarify I don't think any of us said that that night.

907
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,000
I was here for the entire time.

908
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:48,000
I don't believe I heard that and I believe this board taking a leadership role in adopting the homeless task force strategies.

909
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:55,000
And then me following up with each one of our city manager and as I believe the mayor of Lodi mentioned.

910
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,000
The city of Stockton adopted the strategies but none of the other cities have.

911
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:07,000
I think this board and along with supervisor Miller being a direct convener of that group.

912
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:18,000
This board has shown a lot of leadership when it comes to homelessness and I've appreciated that because as you guys have directed me to go find some sustainable funding mechanism.

913
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,000
I took it very seriously.

914
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:25,000
So I don't believe I recall hearing anything in that regard supervisor Lia.

915
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:31,000
Great. I just wanted to get that out and get it on the record again just so that there is no misconception here.

916
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:36,000
Of course we consider it to be a county wide problem.

917
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:45,000
I believe the context in which we were discussing that however came to the came from the discussion about funding for this particular position.

918
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:52,000
And whether or not cities should be exempted from participating in funding this position.

919
01:34:52,000 --> 01:35:06,000
And I know I made a comment at that point that it's in many of the homeless people in the county actually are physically in the cities.

920
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:20,000
So therefore the cities can't logically take the stance that they should be exempted from participating in the funding of the position that is going to coordinate all of those efforts.

921
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,000
That's just a common sense thing.

922
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,000
If the cities will benefit then they should help contribute.

923
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:37,000
And I think that what has been proposed is a is a logical approach to that just based it on the percentage of homeless that are actually in each city.

924
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:51,000
But by no means were we suggesting that we thought that it was purely a problem for the cities and not for the counties and as you can see just by looking at that table of where the funds are coming from.

925
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:57,000
The county is coordinating all of those efforts to provide that funding.

926
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:03,000
So I think the county is clearly taking a leadership role in this entire effort.

927
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,000
Thank you.

928
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,000
Okay, thank you any other other comments from the board.

929
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:14,000
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but we don't need to clap.

930
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,000
Thank you.

931
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:26,000
All right. Okay, this formally opened the public comment. Anyone wishing to speak on the item. I have Brenda is it best guys.

932
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:43,000
Good morning chair board members. My name is Brenda Vasquez and I'm on the board for stocking to nine cares and we go out monthly and in our last outreach that we had we actually got three people off the streets.

933
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,000
We're going to rehab and when we actually got thrown home with the help of Dennis butner.

934
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,000
So we would actually love to step up and help.

935
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:58,000
You know, if you guys are willing to reach out to us or let us reach out to you on Facebook.

936
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,000
Tom Paddy I'm friends with him Miguel as well.

937
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:11,000
So we're open we're open we're out there we have outreach coming up on the 29th and I was actually here on the meeting that we've had the city and the county together.

938
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:20,000
For the homelessness and I don't understand why the city has not stepped up and put their funds in together or say hey let's do something for the homeless.

939
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,000
So I hope that they will do something.

940
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:27,000
I will be at the next city council meeting to address that as well.

941
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:39,000
And then my other only comment that I have is with the barracks opening up at the county jail at the honor farm is will the homeless have free reign to move and come and go as they need for hospital.

942
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:47,000
Or you know I know they'll have transport to the hospitals needed but if they need to go somewhere will they have to check out will you know what will the process be.

943
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:53,000
So that's my only comments but we are available to the and we are nonprofit with the 501 C3.

944
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,000
Thank you.

945
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,000
Thank you.

946
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,000
Anyone else.

947
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:03,000
Hey see you no one close the public comment.

948
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,000
Okay.

949
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:18,000
I would move approval of the item to authorize the chair to sign the new exempt class specification for program administrator homeless initiatives.

950
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:30,000
Introducing way of reading of an ordinance to many ordinance code of Sam looking county by adding program administrator homeless initiatives to the list of classes that are exempt from merit system coverage.

951
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:36,000
Discussion vote.

952
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,000
The doctor five zero.

953
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:47,000
Thank you.

954
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:58,000
Item number three except county council report on use of development agreements in cannabis industry Mr. Miles.

955
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:28,000
More supervisors last time.

956
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:37,000
We were here discussing cannabis and tax and sun setting ordinances.

957
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:53,000
Request was made that we bring you a report on the use of development agreements within the context that they have been used by some places to regulate commercial cannabis.

958
01:39:53,000 --> 01:40:00,000
Development agreements are a land use development tool that was authorized by the legislature in the late 70s.

959
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:11,000
It's significant that in the adoption of that tool the legislature pointed out a very specific reasons for it.

960
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:19,000
One was that they found that there was a lack of certainty in the approval of development projects which can result in waste of resources.

961
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:29,000
And that the comprehensive planning that should result from use of development agreements would make maximum efficient utilization of resources.

962
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:45,000
They also stated that through this tool that the use of development agreement would provide assurances to the developer that the project would go through in accordance with the existing policies.

963
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:56,000
And finally they provided that one of the barriers to development agreement or to development was the lack of infrastructure and so provided a mechanism within development agreements.

964
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:06,000
That developers could front the infrastructure costs and then be assured through a mechanism of recovering their costs over time.

965
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:14,000
And a perfect example of this is out in Mountain House when we have extensive development agreements in the Mountain House area.

966
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:27,000
When the original developer came through all of the services, the roads, everything was oversized much larger than what was needed for what was being built at that time.

967
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:48,000
But there is through the development agreements, a requirement that every new developers that comes in to build homes or to build commercial facilities pays into a fund that pays back that original developer for those costs of infrastructure.

968
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:56,000
The development agreement required to be consistent with the general plan to, again, reinforcing that this is really a land use development tool.

969
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:01,000
There adopted by the legislative by the board of supervisors by ordinance.

970
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:08,000
Typically that would they come to the planning commission first and then to the board of supervisors.

971
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:16,000
Secondly for adoption. And because they're discretionary action, they are subject to environmental review.

972
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:31,000
So even in those instances where development agreements are being used for cannabis regulation in each instance, that development agreement is subject to environmental review.

973
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:48,000
And that could range anywhere from a mitigated negative declaration to a full blown EIR based on the size of the project and the potential environmental impacts.

974
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:55,000
The big focus for development agreements is that they're designed to address uncertainty in the approval process.

975
01:42:55,000 --> 01:43:04,000
I think that's really kind of fitting as we talk about how cannabis rolls out in the state and how it rolls out in the county.

976
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:14,000
Because as we look around, you look around the other states that have legalized cannabis for recreational purposes as well as medical purposes.

977
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:21,000
There have been constant changes from the legislature each year to their programs and their statutes that govern that.

978
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:31,000
We've seen here that just since November of last year, legislature has already approved additional statutes, changing the landscape of cannabis.

979
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:39,000
And so there is a great deal of uncertainty in the approval process, or in the cannabis realm.

980
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:54,000
For that instance, or for that reason, I can clearly see why a person who was interested in pursuing a cannabis business or cannabis business says would want to have a development agreement.

981
01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:07,000
But it's for those exact same reasons that as an advisor to the county, I would recommend that the county look long and hard at the use of development agreement for these purposes.

982
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:18,000
Because what a development agreement does is it locks in place the existing rules and regulations that govern that enterprise.

983
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:35,000
So when we bring back the regulations that will govern cannabis and the county, assuming that those are adopted by the Board of Supervisors, then somebody comes along and say, well, I'd like a development agreement because I'm going to do this large project.

984
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:53,000
When you enter into that development agreement, that prevents the county from making significant changes to those rules and regulations to such to the extent that it would prevent that developer from achieving the goals that they were trying to achieve the development agreement.

985
01:44:53,000 --> 01:45:00,000
It really vests those development rights or that project at the time that the development agreement.

986
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:11,040
Is entered into. There are some mandatory elements from this list of mandatory elements. I think that

987
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:21,640
you will see that this is really focused on not development of a commercial enterprise, but really

988
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:29,240
development of land use. For instance, the development agreements are required to address the duration

989
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:35,960
of the agreement. Some agreements I've seen for cannabis have been ten year agreements. Others

990
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:41,480
I've seen have been one year agreement. They're supposed to address the density or intensity

991
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:47,800
of the use of the property, maximum height and size of proposed buildings, and provisions

992
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:54,600
for reservations for dedications of land and public purposes. Also, there are discretionary elements

993
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:59,400
that would be included, for instance, out in Mountain House, there are discretionary elements

994
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:07,800
in the development title or in the development agreements that address design review committees

995
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:13,400
and things of that nature. So there is some ability for the county to include other discretionary

996
01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:23,560
items within that development agreement. The main question that I think was being raised by the board

997
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:34,600
was as an alternative to taxes in order to raise revenue. These are raised for regulatory purposes

998
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:43,560
and to provide programs and licenses. Taxes under state law are used to raise revenue.

999
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:54,520
The California Constitution Article 13C governs that ability to charge fees, and generally,

1000
01:46:54,520 --> 01:47:01,400
what it says is that you can charge fees that are reasonable and necessary to provide the program.

1001
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:09,960
But there's a differentiation between fees that you can charge because those fees don't require

1002
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:17,080
a vote of the public and taxes which are used to generate revenues which would be beyond the cost

1003
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:27,960
of providing the program which do require a vote of the public. Some of the places that are using

1004
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:33,560
development agreements, the city of Desert Hot Springs, Coachella, Colusa and West Sacramento are

1005
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:39,400
all using development agreements. In my discussions and exploration of this, I was talking with a

1006
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:45,240
county south of us yesterday, that's the first county I'm aware of that's planning to use development

1007
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:52,200
agreements. They're planning to do so at this time just because they think the timing is not great

1008
01:47:52,200 --> 01:48:03,960
to put a tax on the ballot for them. Most of these ones that you see here, Colusa is not a

1009
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:12,680
model that I would recommend. It's very site-specific. It's not as thorough a development agreement

1010
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:20,360
as I think would be appropriate. Desert Hot Springs, on the other hand, has a very comprehensive

1011
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:27,960
development agreement. One thing to bear in mind is that although in these development agreements,

1012
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:35,000
they often call out fees, I believe Desert Hot Springs has a law enforcement fee as well as perhaps

1013
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:43,800
a public benefit fee. Most of these municipalities have also adopted taxes. So they're limiting the use

1014
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:49,800
of the development agreement to collect fees to address the off or to offset the impacts from the

1015
01:48:49,800 --> 01:49:00,040
programs and using the taxes to generate revenue that then they use for other their other

1016
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:16,920
programs as they see fit. As I said in the fluid environment of commercial cannabis, you can imagine

1017
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:23,880
why an applicant would desire to have that development agreement that provides that certainty

1018
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:31,320
that their project is going to go forward for the duration or the term that's spelled out in the

1019
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:40,840
development agreement. But for those same reasons, it's going to be a detriment to the county.

1020
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:47,480
It does provide the ability to impose, as I said, those fees and mitigate some of the impacts

1021
01:49:47,480 --> 01:49:55,880
from the programs. What I've alluded to on the county's concern is that development agreements are

1022
01:49:55,880 --> 01:50:03,720
relatively inflexible. Compared to ordinances or regulations, which you can come and introduce, we've

1023
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:10,520
modify an ordinance. You've seen the introduction of and way of rating of one ordinance this morning.

1024
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:18,040
There'll be others as we go forward this morning. And it's relatively simple to modify ordinances

1025
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:26,200
as things change. But when you get the development agreement in place and it vests those rights,

1026
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:32,680
those development rights, those are very hard to change. And so one of the things that's required

1027
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:44,760
is for the county to be able to anticipate all of the impacts that are going to result from

1028
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:51,320
this development so that you can address them in a development agreement. And I don't believe at this

1029
01:50:51,320 --> 01:51:02,200
time that the knowledge base is there. For us to anticipate what all of those impacts are going to

1030
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:09,240
be. There's an inadequate baseline that exists from the other states that we're pre-licensed or pre-legalization

1031
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:18,040
to the impacts that exist now. And that creates a difficulty for us to anticipate accurately

1032
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:23,960
anticipate what those impacts will be. We might overshoot it, we might undershoot it, we might not address

1033
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:29,400
those impacts, certain impacts at all. But once that development agreements in place, we have limited

1034
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:40,520
ability to go back and modify it. That concludes my report on the use of development agreements to

1035
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:48,440
regulate commercial cannabis. It has not my recommendation because of the concerns that I've

1036
01:51:48,440 --> 01:51:58,280
addressed that while it's an appropriate tool to use to regulate land use and even to regulate the

1037
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:06,600
the development of enterprises for commercial cannabis, I have concerns about using it as a tool for

1038
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:15,720
generating revenue. We have to answer any questions. I see a result.

1039
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:26,600
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just following up on your last statement there about how it is very difficult

1040
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:34,280
to change one of these agreements once it is made. What does it take to modify a development agreement?

1041
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:42,440
Well, essentially, a development agreement is a contract that's been codified through

1042
01:52:42,440 --> 01:52:51,480
ordinance. If you're going to modify the development agreement in such a way that it would impact

1043
01:52:51,480 --> 01:52:57,640
the developers' ability to achieve what they were, what their goal was, the development agreement,

1044
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:03,560
you're going to have to have their agreement. Otherwise, you're inviting them all soon.

1045
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:10,280
Okay. I would think that would make it very difficult to change a development agreement. I would think so.

1046
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:17,160
Okay. So, I'd have to concur with your recommendation here. I mean, we just really don't know what the

1047
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:25,240
situation is going to be. All of the entire cannabis market is relatively undeveloped.

1048
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:37,160
We don't have base lines to base and adequate recommendation on. As you say in your conclusion,

1049
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:45,320
this whole concept remains an untested vehicle. So, I agree completely. This doesn't seem to be the

1050
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:49,800
way to go. Thank you.

1051
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:57,160
Supervisor Miller. Thank you. I have a question. Can development agreements have

1052
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:05,720
be drawn with instead of a finite term to where they would expire at the point in time that tax

1053
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:16,120
measure was passed. Or they would be subordinated to to the passage of of an ordinance in a

1054
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:24,520
tax measure. As far as a term, development of the term, I think there is some flexibility of

1055
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:34,040
the term. But exactly how that's crafted, we need to look into that further. Okay. Thank you. I agree.

1056
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:40,680
I don't think this is the preferred method. I think it's doable, but I don't think it's. I don't think

1057
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:49,320
anytime you're making law by individual agreements, you're always open to charges of lack of transparency,

1058
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:56,840
lack of fairness. Somebody's getting a better deal than somebody else. So, I agree that this is

1059
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:03,480
probably not the preferred method for moving forward. Although it is doable and I know other

1060
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:11,000
counties are doing it, but I don't think it's the preferred method. Thank you.

1061
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:13,160
It was a petty.

1062
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:23,400
Thank you, Chairman. As a quick follow-up, some of the municipalities that you mentioned are doing

1063
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:28,280
development agreements, and you, and also mentioned in your comments that some development

1064
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:33,960
agreements are one year long and perhaps longer of the ten years I think you had indicated.

1065
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:40,760
Are they any of the municipalities that are using development agreements, but I'm wondering if we had

1066
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:47,640
an annual development agreement that was renewable, providing the person was meeting the guidelines and

1067
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:53,960
the profile of the development agreement versus, you know, somebody that was also challenging it,

1068
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:59,400
well, then at the end of that year, that development agreement wouldn't wouldn't allow them to continue.

1069
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:06,200
There is the requirement under statute for an annual review of the development agreement and of the

1070
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:13,000
performance or compliance therewith. So you wouldn't have to limit it to a one year period, but

1071
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:21,000
on the annual review, you could go through that determination. If you found out, found that the

1072
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:28,600
the developer was not in compliance with the agreement or not in compliance with the ordinance,

1073
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:32,440
then actions could be taken to dismantle the development agreement.

1074
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:38,920
Okay, and in lieu of a tax, these municipalities are using a development agreement.

1075
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:44,520
Most of them have actually adopted taxes or they're in the process of adopting taxes,

1076
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:50,920
so they're not using it as a revenue generation. They are, they are addressing fees through it,

1077
01:56:52,680 --> 01:57:00,680
but I believe that there are some significant hurdles to using it in lieu of a tax measure.

1078
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:06,280
But there are one or two. I think that you could have, for example, I think you mentioned one,

1079
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:10,920
didn't feel it was a good time to initiate a tax. Right, but they haven't started issuing those

1080
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:19,880
development agreements yet, but that's what they'll be utilizing. It is, but I'll just say that

1081
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:28,680
there are significant hurdles that are presented by using development agreements

1082
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:35,160
to raise revenue. I believe you, I'm not doubting that from home. No, no, and I would prefer to

1083
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:43,960
give my legal advice on that outside of public hearing. Okay, and you mentioned in your closing

1084
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:53,080
there of your presentation that the impacts would be hard to estimate at this point, and I would suggest

1085
01:57:53,080 --> 01:58:02,200
that any time, if we failed to have any type of tax, if we were to utilize a development agreement,

1086
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:09,880
it would just reflect what we would consider in lieu of taxes, I think a development agreement would

1087
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:18,040
kind of fill the void or fill that gap. That would get to be determined, and we don't know what we're

1088
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:24,600
going to do tax as it relates to a tax, but I would think there's a pathway to a success that's

1089
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:31,560
being utilized somewhere. Was there only four municipalities that you'd post that up that are using

1090
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:37,400
development agreements or are there others in the state? There are four that I'm aware of, and then

1091
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:44,440
the one county that I'm aware of that is looking at that as a vehicle. Okay. I think that's it for now. Thank you.

1092
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:51,560
Vice Chair and Ville Putin. Thank you, Chair. I'm sorry for miles, because the license would be

1093
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:58,600
made such a compliance with state law as far as, you know, it's a state agreement that would be county.

1094
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:05,000
So, development agreements or the license, development agreements? So, yes, development agreements would

1095
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:14,360
have to be subject to and in compliance with state law. And they do recognize that that that's

1096
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:26,600
state law changes. But, and are to be interpreted in such a way that that if there's a conflict

1097
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:35,240
that to the extent possible, the development developers still able to achieve their the intended

1098
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:40,280
results, but they do have to be interpreted consistent with state law. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

1099
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:50,600
A couple of quick questions. Obviously, the development agreement you say that some of those entities

1100
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:59,400
are also doing attacks is that correct. That's correct. Okay. But, if you compare the potential revenue

1101
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:12,520
for it.

1102
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:18,000
Through the taxes or the fees, and with a development agreement that may be in place, one of the cities that you mentioned, what percentage of what a tax or a fee generates does a development agreement also generate?

1103
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:25,000
You have any idea?

1104
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:35,000
I don't have a comparison between the fees that are generated from the development agreement and what a tax might generate.

1105
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:47,000
Well, I would, you know, based on my experience, I would suspect that it's probably less, because it is, like you say, it's set for a period of years, so there's not any growth, I guess you could finish later in there.

1106
02:00:47,000 --> 02:01:04,000
But the other question is, is it one of the debated, one of the debates that it is being raised in the real-ter market, among real-ter, is as weather or not,

1107
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:18,000
if a property is being sold in an area, whether that be an area of residential or industrial or whatever commercial,

1108
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:29,000
that there are, are cannabis activities that are occurring in that area, not necessarily next door, but in that area,

1109
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:39,000
and kind of along the lines of Megan's law, which is very general in regards to real estate sales.

1110
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:42,000
Megan's law, by the way, is sexual predators.

1111
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:58,000
So the question is, is in a development agreement, would the county be able to include in that, that the developer upon marketing their property or their lots or whatever it happens to be?

1112
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:11,000
They would also have to disclose that that development is obviously entitled to certain fees or certainly the availability of certain cannabis activities,

1113
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:21,000
whether it be the cultivation or the dispensing or the manufacturing or the testing or whatever, would that be appropriate or allowed in a development agreement to acquire?

1114
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:24,000
They would be required in a development agreement.

1115
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:36,000
So that would be possible if we included that in there, or would it be a matter of, as an ordinance, it's adopted as an ordinance, so it's a public record,

1116
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:50,000
and then it's also recorded by the clerk, the county clerk, and it goes along with those properties that are subject to the development.

1117
02:02:50,000 --> 02:03:03,000
So those who are looking to buy it in that particular development would be aware of the potential of some type of that type of activity occurring somewhere within the development itself.

1118
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:08,000
Certainly even next door, at some point, possibly.

1119
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:27,000
There's an inherently a concern in regards to affordable housing and developments as regards to how they're viewed by either current residents or future residents.

1120
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:37,000
I guess my concern in regards to even exploring this is it would seem that in light of your comments as far as the.

1121
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:50,000
Nobody knows this this whole issue is so entested and you can't even look to other states or entities because different states have similar regulations about the same.

1122
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:57,000
And it would seem to me that you know that we would be better served to wait and see what's happening in other entities.

1123
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:01,000
You mentioned one county that's considering it they haven't done it.

1124
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:14,000
Maybe they'll do it, but you know I have a real concern about being a pioneer in this area because it is you said the changes are almost daily even the.

1125
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:25,000
Final draft of the say water control board regards the use of water and and other things is is amazing compared to the demands.

1126
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:30,000
Requirements on agriculture farmers is opposed on on cannabis.

1127
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:38,000
Business owners so and that's concern and and again I I'm a little bit concerned about this development agreement because.

1128
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:46,000
Seems like we're going to do anything we have to do to generate the money is supposedly to either control or offset the cost.

1129
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:53,000
I I can give you steady after steady of incidents where.

1130
02:04:53,000 --> 02:05:02,000
Somebody want to control something and they didn't it went way beyond what it was originally before it was all illicit real legal.

1131
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,000
So having said that.

1132
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:09,000
I will open up the public we have some speakers adjacent.

1133
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:19,000
This is not a Tory.

1134
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:23,000
Morning members of the board county council.

1135
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,000
I have county administrator.

1136
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,000
My name is Jason the sub a Tory.

1137
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:31,000
I own a couple of retail hydroponic stores both in low die and in Calvary County.

1138
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:37,000
So I represent myself and also a permitted cultivator in an adjacent county.

1139
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:43,000
So I decide myself I represent a white spectrum of permitted cannabis operators.

1140
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:47,000
That being said there's a lot of operators that would like to do business here in San Joaquin.

1141
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:56,000
Whether they reside here and have to move to adjacent counties to capture revenue to be able to do legitimate business with much rather stay in their home area.

1142
02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:09,000
We do see potentially development agreement that was raised by supervisor patty at the last meeting as a potential to to operate here in the county.

1143
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:14,000
Another the supervisor you've spent a couple of years working on the wine ordinance.

1144
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:18,000
You know which took a long time to get past about two years.

1145
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:22,000
Which is now seen as an exemplary model of legislation for the state of California.

1146
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:25,000
Something that the rest of the state can look at to as a model of success.

1147
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,000
I feel this is an opportunity to do the same thing in the cannabis industry.

1148
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:36,000
With contrary to what a supervisor when is said it might be a good opportunity to pioneer this and see this as an opportunity.

1149
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:42,000
Maybe to use a development agreement as a supervisor patty as a disseg way this into an ordinance.

1150
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:51,000
It's my understanding for my attorneys that there's a lot more flexibility in the development agreement that's being proposed.

1151
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:58,000
The operators can come in with a current development agreement which is basically a contract between the operators and the county.

1152
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,000
Great in partnership.

1153
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:12,000
Which a lot of operators are very open and willing to do and maintain a certain level of transparency and also be flexible to any future legislation or ordinance that is passed.

1154
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:27,000
There's also I'd like to say that in permanent operations around the state there's zero impact.

1155
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:36,000
Further share local share of supportment as far as having to deal with any instances of theft or crime on site.

1156
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:57,000
Obviously we have a black market that needs to be dealt with and I'm assuming in hoping that California and local legislation will help take care of that in the next couple years so permitted legitimate operators can do business and access in a successful way and pardon continue to pay their taxes and pay for fees.

1157
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:01,000
Thank you.

1158
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:03,000
Anyone else? Yes.

1159
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:07,000
Are you state your name?

1160
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:08,000
Hi.

1161
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:13,000
Normally I'm an advocate for this kind of a stuff but I don't like your plan.

1162
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,000
It is too primitive.

1163
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:30,000
Don't like it because like supervisor Miller says there's room for each individual contract and subject to inequality.

1164
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:31,000
Okay.

1165
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,000
So no, I don't like it.

1166
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:40,000
And maybe if we had a different plan maybe if we had something else to base it on but it sounds like we're all beginning.

1167
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,000
So we don't need to take a chance.

1168
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,000
We should just be cautious.

1169
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,000
You know city stock and has the marijuana thing going.

1170
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,000
We'll see how there's goes.

1171
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,000
Maybe we could lend some from them.

1172
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,000
So thank you folks.

1173
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,000
Thank you.

1174
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:55,000
Anyone else?

1175
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:57,000
Yes.

1176
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:58,000
Step up.

1177
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:00,000
State your name please.

1178
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,000
I thought I had my card in but my name is Howard Seligman.

1179
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:10,000
I just want to make a few brief comments on the issue of the development agreement.

1180
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:19,000
I don't concur with the position of the county council in which basically using a development agreement locked to in.

1181
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,000
There are provisions.

1182
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:26,000
I could be inserted into a development agreement which should do some of the following.

1183
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:31,000
Which Mr. the county council has already recognized.

1184
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:34,000
The developer would have to comply with all state law.

1185
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:45,000
There's nothing to prevent a provision being added that the developer in a development agreement would also have to comply with local law.

1186
02:09:45,000 --> 02:10:03,000
You could build that into your ordinance and compel as part of the development agreement that the successful applicant would be required to comply with any changes that occur in either state law or county law.

1187
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:10,000
Effecting the ability to transact a cannabis business.

1188
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:31,000
So consequently I'm of the initial position that by establishing the proper wording you could require changes in the development agreement to coincide with not only state law as it is modified from time to time.

1189
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:39,000
But also your county ordinance which is ultimately adopted by this board.

1190
02:10:39,000 --> 02:11:00,000
In addition there's the possibility within the development agreement of suggesting that the term of the development agreement coincide from a sunset provision with the approval by voters for any tax that relates to the cannabis.

1191
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:15,000
These and revenue and once that occurs then the development agreement can be essentially dropped and replaced by the tax.

1192
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:29,000
I would also indicate that as noted in the county council's letters that he's talked about a range of fees and revenues that he has talked about.

1193
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:50,000
In terms of what would be required on the part of the successful applicant that same range of fees could be established in the development agreement which would then authorize the board from time to time to modify those fees within that particular range.

1194
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:52,000
Thank you.

1195
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:54,000
Anyone else?

1196
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:07,000
Good morning. My name is Katie Podin and I'm going to turn you with seal and law firm.

1197
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:16,000
Our firm specializes in regulatory compliance, corporate governance and transactions for the cannabis industry.

1198
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:20,000
I'm here with Jason disalvatory who spoke previously and Howard.

1199
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:34,000
I wanted to speak about the development agreements because our firm has entered into many development agreements with municipalities and I was happy to hear county council mentioned as a hot springs as an example of one was a positive one.

1200
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:45,000
Because our firm worked with the city of desert hot springs in order to draft the template for the development agreement that they use with all of their licensees.

1201
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:58,000
I would like to first reiterate what Howard said in terms of a sunset clause and what supervisor Patty was asking about is that you can absolutely have a sunset clause for these fees.

1202
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:10,000
For example, the city of green fields exactly that they call that a municipal search charge and it's sunset when the tax goes when the electorate boats on the tax measure.

1203
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:17,000
I would also like to address some of the benefits of the county that they'll see from development agreements.

1204
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:25,000
I think it's a good thing because it provides benchmarks and timelines more specific than a conditional use permit would provide a licensee.

1205
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:33,000
It will encourage the developer to develop on time with the right funding.

1206
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:37,000
It also encourages completion of the projects.

1207
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:46,000
This is no different than developing resorts, hotels, car dealerships, all which have which municipalities use development agreements center into.

1208
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:51,000
I also would like to talk about the shorter term timeline.

1209
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:55,000
You can absolutely enter into a yearly contract if you renewed annually.

1210
02:13:55,000 --> 02:14:02,000
You can even have it sunset wouldn't ordinance comes into place and then issue a conditional use permit for the licensee.

1211
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:09,000
It does not have to lock the county in for 10 years and it can absolutely be subject to local and state law.

1212
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,000
You wouldn't do it any other way.

1213
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:17,000
And, you know, for concerns of the uncertainty with state law.

1214
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:26,000
First of all, we really haven't seen any state roll back their marijuana laws after they came online.

1215
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:42,000
And secondly, if there's a certain if there is uncertainty then I recommend to not open it up to the free market but then limit development agreements for a first phase in a limited number of licensees or developers.

1216
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:47,000
I'd be happy to answer any other questions you have my experience with development agreements.

1217
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:50,000
Thank you.

1218
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:55,000
Thank you. Anyone else?

1219
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:58,000
Just a side note.

1220
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:01,000
I read the study that was.

1221
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,160
A draft in August of this year. Talked about US marijuana compliance scores. Colorado, an endless

1222
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:18,800
various compliance activities, medical dispensaries, etc. But I'll just go to the bottom. Overall,

1223
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:27,440
the average score by state. Colorado was 80 compliance, 82.9. Illinois was 97% Nevada was 81.2. And

1224
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:37,600
then Washington state was 77.3. California was 74.4. So, doesn't necessarily show a great job by

1225
02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:43,280
California at regards to compliance to particular controlled substances in regards to the

1226
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:48,840
license dispensaries. Okay. Mr. Baudjou. Yes. First,

1227
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:54,040
there's a large budget, some of the firm bureau here in Stockton. I figure to get up once in that way. I

1228
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:59,480
have to get up every time and we can just start in the beginning. Our policy and our policy has

1229
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:05,320
been on this issue to continue a van on cannabis production until January 2023. Period. That's what we've

1230
02:16:05,320 --> 02:16:09,560
been saying. That's what we're going. Anything that moves us to speed up that process is something that

1231
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:15,800
we have concerns on. We really appreciated the county council's report. In the words caution, in terms of

1232
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:22,840
granting a right with limited amount of fees that are more likely not going to cover the costs of

1233
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:27,480
the programs that you're going to entail if you do move into this production and no guarantee that you

1234
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:31,800
ever will. So what you're doing is granting a right for people to go ahead and produce in this county

1235
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:36,680
and it's you're not going to be a limit in the future. And if there are unintended consequences and

1236
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:42,120
they're going to be unintended consequences, you the county are the ones that just signed up for that by

1237
02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:45,400
moving in this direction. And you're the ones that are going to have to figure out other

1238
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:51,720
sources of revenue. We look specifically, again, with the sheriff's department impacts on rural

1239
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:56,920
crime impacts on that rural crime department and in every place else in that there's law enforcement so

1240
02:16:56,920 --> 02:17:02,200
important to us. We look at our ag commissioners office and we kind of, that one can get to brush it off

1241
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:06,440
into the side. The ag commissioners office is going to see significant impacts if this county ever moves

1242
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:12,040
down that path of commercial cannabis production. So we have some real issues with that, some real

1243
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:19,480
concerns, again, granting a right in with liability that you're going to entail a path of

1244
02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:25,640
unintended unintended consequences. I don't think this is the right course of action for San

1245
02:17:25,960 --> 02:17:39,320
County. Thanks, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman. It was really kind of interesting

1246
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:44,920
where we're talking about development agreements and we're talking about next on the agenda we'll be

1247
02:17:44,920 --> 02:17:51,080
talking about potential taxes. And we don't have an ordinance. We don't even know what we're doing if

1248
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:57,400
we're just looking at an outline and a structure and a stand. There's things that have been spoken

1249
02:17:57,400 --> 02:18:04,040
and concerns and rightly so. And there's concerns on this board. We take this very seriously as we've

1250
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:09,080
indicated in the past. And I don't even know if we're going to have a marijuana ordinance. I don't know

1251
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:16,520
what we're going to allow. But if we're going to allow something, we do need to have in place some sort of mechanism

1252
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:24,680
to recover funding expenses, taxes, fees, whatever it is because there are going to be expenses

1253
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:30,520
whether we have an ordinance or not. So the discussion of this development agreement and the ensuing

1254
02:18:31,640 --> 02:18:41,080
discussion of the taxes is it's so much premature because we don't have an ordinance that we've voted on.

1255
02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:49,400
There's still is a ban in San Joaquin. There's still maybe a ban in San Joaquin. But if this board comes together

1256
02:18:49,400 --> 02:19:00,280
in any cohesive manner and votes to allow at any level, any type of cannabis business, then we do need to

1257
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:09,640
have a few structure in place. So a development agreement or any of the tax discussions would

1258
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:18,120
happen only if the county approves and ordinance allowing cannabis cultivation, business sale,

1259
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:25,160
anything of that nature. So I would like to make a motion in regards to the development agreement

1260
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:34,600
and borrowing any other conversation from the board. My motion, my motion would be that

1261
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:42,040
in lieu of a tax and a such time that a tax is in place, a development agreement be crafted for boards

1262
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:52,840
consideration to regulate any future cannabis related businesses. I think we had some couple of good points

1263
02:19:52,840 --> 02:20:02,440
brought up the development agreements seem to be flexible enough. So I think perhaps in the crafting

1264
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:09,640
of one for the boards consideration and in lieu of a tax that may or may not ever happen, at least we

1265
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:17,640
have in place a development agreement that be utilized if cannabis is ever in place which may or may not

1266
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:27,720
happen. Clarification from the county council, at least the recommendation was to do a

1267
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:35,880
justice sector report. That was my recommendation was accepted before. Okay. So therefore,

1268
02:20:35,880 --> 02:20:42,760
modifying it is acceptable this time. The board's direction. It's the board wants us to

1269
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:48,520
explore developing or to explore the development agreement that will certainly take that.

1270
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:57,400
I will do that. Okay. All right. Thank you. I would ask for, would you restate your motion

1271
02:20:57,400 --> 02:21:04,280
because I want to make sure that I captured what? Sure. Basically, I said in lieu of a tax and at

1272
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:11,240
such time that a tax is in place, a development agreement be crafted for boards consideration to regulate

1273
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,920
any future cannabis related businesses.

1274
02:21:21,960 --> 02:21:27,960
So essentially it's coming back to the board. I will figure the motion in.

1275
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:32,920
Motion in a second. Please cast your vote.

1276
02:21:42,200 --> 02:21:43,560
Motion to be the three to two.

1277
02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:53,800
Okay. We started motion. We're a sixth and report. And then we're in motion to make motion to that.

1278
02:21:53,800 --> 02:22:00,200
That regard or clarification. I would move to accept council's report.

1279
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:09,880
Okay. Motion second. All second. Motion in a second. Please cast your vote.

1280
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:15,320
Doptify zero. Thank you.

1281
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:21,160
All right. Moving to.

1282
02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:31,960
Item number four.

1283
02:22:31,960 --> 02:22:39,960
Wait reading the ordinance.

1284
02:22:42,120 --> 02:22:50,440
I'm ending the summer. So I can count a code of ordinance title on the sunset provision.

1285
02:22:57,960 --> 02:22:59,320
Good morning supervisors.

1286
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:04,600
Wait. I was reading for eye contact there.

1287
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:08,280
We're going on my screen, but that's okay. Go ahead.

1288
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:12,760
So we narrowed that pretty county council. You'd be glad to know. I do not have a power point for you this

1289
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:18,040
morning. That's always good news. As stated in the board letter, we recommend that you introduce

1290
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:24,600
and we've reading of the proposed amendment to code of ordinance title four. Division 10,

1291
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:28,440
chapter one, commercial cannabis activity section four,

1292
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:35,560
dash one, zero, zero, one, one, the sunset provision. The proposed amendment would ensure that the

1293
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:41,320
ban on commercial cannabis activity in the unincorporated county, the unincorporated areas of

1294
02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:48,520
singing county remains in place unless and until there is a comprehensive commercial cannabis ordinance

1295
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:53,640
and that a revenue source for the regulations and ordinance is in place.

1296
02:23:55,240 --> 02:24:00,760
You'll remember the board included the sunset provision and chapter one in order to ensure that

1297
02:24:00,760 --> 02:24:07,000
staff was moving forward with a commercial cannabis cultivation ordinance in a timely manner and I

1298
02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:12,920
considering the timing of the state's licenses, just specifically the sunset provision was put in place

1299
02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:18,760
so that we were moving forward to be in line with the state's issuance of commercial cannabis

1300
02:24:18,760 --> 02:24:25,320
activity licenses which was set for January 11, 2018. This state is on track to do that.

1301
02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:31,720
There will be emergency regulations but they will be licenses pursuant to emergency regulations but

1302
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:37,640
they will be licenses and I want to assure the board that despite today's proposed amendment to

1303
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:43,480
remove the sunset provision staff and specifically a working group made up of department heads in

1304
02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:48,440
key staff in the county is working toward both a commercial cannabis ordinance as well as a

1305
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:54,760
personal cannabis cultivation set of regulations or ordinance. The proposed removal of the sunset

1306
02:24:54,760 --> 02:25:00,680
provision will provide the working group and potentially a contractor that is currently out to bid

1307
02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:07,880
sufficient time to adopt a comprehensive ordinance structure that's funded through fees and ideally

1308
02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:15,320
local tax and that has full cost recovery efficient implementation and effective swift enforcement.

1309
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:19,720
It takes time to develop that we are ensuring that we're working on work flows and that that

1310
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:26,120
implementation when and if there is a tax pass or revenue sources pass is able to be implemented

1311
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:31,400
effectively and efficiently. So following today's introduction and we were a reading we asked that the

1312
02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:37,320
amendment be agendized for adoption on November 7, 2017 which is the next regular meeting.

1313
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:39,320
Any questions?

1314
02:25:39,880 --> 02:25:41,880
Zero as a rule?

1315
02:25:41,880 --> 02:25:51,320
Not really question. I just think that this is necessary to do. I've stated publicly that I do

1316
02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:57,560
think we need to develop a comprehensive commercial cannabis ordinance and we do need to pass

1317
02:25:58,440 --> 02:26:06,520
a tax measure to ensure that we have the funds to mitigate the impacts of this new industry in our state

1318
02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:11,400
but I believe really strongly that it needs to be done in a really

1319
02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:18,680
thorough, thoughtful, comprehensive way that is transparent to the public and fair to everyone concern

1320
02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:25,160
and that we address as many of the issues upfront as we possibly can and to do that. I believe it's

1321
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:31,800
really important that we keep the ban in place until such time as we can do that. So I'm very supportive of this.

1322
02:26:32,360 --> 02:26:36,360
Do I have it?

1323
02:26:38,360 --> 02:26:49,080
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So just to capitalize what you said, this amendment actually ensures that

1324
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:55,240
the ban on commercial cannabis activity remains in place unless the board comes back and takes

1325
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:57,560
some specific action to change that.

1326
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:03,960
Yes, supervisor. I would make one clarification and that is that it is the title for ban which

1327
02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:10,520
used to be referred to as the cultivation ban was expanded in May of 2017 to include all commercial

1328
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:15,880
cannabis activities. This is separate from the title nine, dispensary ban which will come

1329
02:27:15,880 --> 02:27:21,320
before your board for adoption. Also on November 7, pending the outcome at the planning commission

1330
02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:23,960
on November 2. So this is specifically the title for.

1331
02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:36,920
Okay, now, I'll tell me that again. So this one includes all commercial cannabis activity, right?

1332
02:27:36,920 --> 02:27:43,320
Whether it's medical or not. This particular title for was originally focused on cultivation.

1333
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:49,320
It was then expanded to include commercial cannabis activity. However, the dispensary ban exists

1334
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:54,840
separately and that's in title nine. That was how it originally moved forward was.

1335
02:27:54,840 --> 02:28:03,080
It exists in development title as a type of business operation in the county. So we are, that was also,

1336
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:08,680
a sense of provision was also included in the title nine dispensary ban. A sense of provision was

1337
02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:15,880
included in the title for cultivation ban. Both of which were expanded in May of 2017. Today,

1338
02:28:15,960 --> 02:28:21,960
we are introducing and weaving reading for the title for cultivation ban, which was expanded

1339
02:28:21,960 --> 02:28:28,600
to be more extensive. And then on November 7, in parallel, we will bring forward the adoption also

1340
02:28:28,600 --> 02:28:37,320
of title nine dispensary ban. Okay, so this amendment then ensures that the ban on all

1341
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:45,000
commercial activity, commercial cannabis activity, except for medical dispensaries remains in place.

1342
02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:51,960
Correct. And as the best we can do with this today. We have to do them separately. We have

1343
02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:58,120
initiated and it has been agendized for the planning commission to be heard on November 2, 2017.

1344
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:03,160
The first step in removing the sunset provision from the title nine dispensary ban.

1345
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:09,400
Okay, thank you for that clarification. And I think that's exactly what we need to do. We need to keep

1346
02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:15,720
the ban in place and require the board to come back and specifically address the change

1347
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:22,200
rather than having it automatically sunset. Any other comments?

1348
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:31,480
There's the board. I move that we adopt the staff recommendations as written.

1349
02:29:39,960 --> 02:29:42,680
Thank you, supervisors. Thank you.

1350
02:29:48,280 --> 02:29:55,240
Okay, I don't number five. If you're there's in way of reading ordinance imposing a tax on commercial

1351
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:59,480
cannabis businesses. Mr. Chairman, before we get started with that.

1352
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,000
I anticipate that this may take longer than half hour to get through.

1353
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:09,000
I don't know if you want to break early and come back before and then do this after the lunch break.

1354
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:16,000
It's certainly at the board pleasure, but just anticipating that this is likely to take longer than half an hour.

1355
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:19,000
All right, there we'll take.

1356
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:23,000
There are quite a number of people in the audience.

1357
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:26,000
All right, I'll take your advice.

1358
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:36,000
We will.

1359
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:38,000
Go ahead.

1360
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:45,000
If you're interested in hearing getting the public comments, then I suggest we just proceed.

1361
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:52,000
Okay.

1362
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:55,000
All right, let's go ahead and start it.

1363
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:59,000
We may adjourn in the middle of it and reconvene.

1364
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:05,000
We'll try to get the public comments in before we break for lunch and then come back to the boards.

1365
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:09,000
Session or decision after that.

1366
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:11,000
Okay.

1367
02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:16,000
Let's.

1368
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:18,000
Good morning, supervisors.

1369
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:21,000
This is the introduction and wave reading of an ordinance amending the Sen.

1370
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:41,000
I should have realized it wasn't mine.

1371
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:44,000
Introduction and wave reading of an ordinance adding the Sen.

1372
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:52,000
Accounting code of ordinance chapter four to title three imposing attacks on commercial cannabis businesses.

1373
02:31:52,000 --> 02:32:04,000
Recommended that the board of supervisors introduce and wave reading of an ordinance adding chapter four of title three to impose a county general tax on commercial cannabis businesses in the unincorporated area of Sen.

1374
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:24,000
Accounting as of July 1, 2018 and set November 7, 2017 as the date and time to adopt the ordinance adding chapter four of title three.

1375
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:31,000
The requirements for today's action because this is adding attacks and tax has to be voted on by the public.

1376
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:45,000
And then it comes back a second time for the board to adopt the ordinance and then the ordinance becomes effective within 30 days.

1377
02:32:45,000 --> 02:33:00,000
Because this is attacks and because it has to be voted on by the public at the first meeting, which is today, there's the introduction and wave reading and this is the opportunity for the board to make any changes that you wish to make to the ordinance that's before you.

1378
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:09,000
The it owner requires a majority vote to introduce and wave reading.

1379
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:15,000
Depending on the action of the board on the amendments that are made to the ordinance today it.

1380
02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:19,000
Our recommendation is for a general tax to move forward.

1381
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:34,000
When it comes back to the board on November 7, would require a four fist vote from the board to to call the election and place this on the ballot.

1382
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:42,000
At that time the board is not approving or adopting the tax, they're not adopting the tax, they're they're approving placing it on the ballot.

1383
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:51,000
If the board believes today that a general tax is not the way to go forward and that a special tax is preferred.

1384
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:59,000
There is language that we can modify in the ordinance that's before you that would allow a special tax to go forward.

1385
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:04,000
The difference on the special taxes that when it goes to the public for the vote.

1386
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:09,000
There's a higher threshold that however to get it to the public for a vote.

1387
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:15,000
A special tax home and requires a majority of the board to place it on the ballot.

1388
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:18,000
So with that said.

1389
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:26,000
The board in in previous discussions of the board is indicated that it was the desire.

1390
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:33,000
In forming the tax that we would tax all of the license types.

1391
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:37,000
And that there would be some flexibility within the tax.

1392
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:46,000
So we have looked at an included language that provides for an annual adjustment according to the consumer price index.

1393
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:54,000
We've also drafted language that allows for additional authority of the board to increase the tax within the specified range.

1394
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:56,000
Let me explain that.

1395
02:34:56,000 --> 02:35:03,000
The range generally for the tax that we've looked at is 3.5% to 15%.

1396
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:08,000
We're recommending that the tax be introduced the first year at lower range.

1397
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:12,000
But by providing the additional authority for the board.

1398
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:19,000
That means that the second year if the revenue that was generated is insufficient to meet the county's needs.

1399
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:34,000
But then by resolution of the board you can adjust that tax rate within that 3.5 to 15% range to ensure that the revenue is sufficient to meet the county's needs.

1400
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:42,000
We've looked at the taxes and we've included them with separate methodology.

1401
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:51,000
The cultivation tax and you may recall this from the report that we brought to you from our consultant H.D.L.

1402
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:58,000
There was a recommendation that for cultivation tax to be based on the square footage of the license this issue.

1403
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:06,000
That provides certainty to the county about the amount of revenue that will be generated by a license.

1404
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:15,000
If I'd certainty to the applicant because they know a front exactly what it is that they're going to have to pay as far as a tax.

1405
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:27,000
We made certain assumptions going into this valuation and because of that, this was one of the difficult areas.

1406
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:37,000
So based on the report from H.D.L.L. and their discussions, they indicated that it takes about 10 square feet to produce a pound of flower.

1407
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:44,000
And in discussions and looking at the industry, the wholesale value presently is about 20,000 dollars per pound.

1408
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:54,000
Now, we used that and we used it modeled on the 3.5% and came up with a square footage rate of 28 dollars per pound.

1409
02:36:54,000 --> 02:37:00,560
around our $28 per square foot as an entry rate.

1410
02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:10,800
Colorado uses a similar methodology, but they adjust the value that wholesale value quarterly,

1411
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:18,640
California under the new laws that were adopted this year, also are looking at adjusting

1412
02:37:18,640 --> 02:37:21,040
their rates quarterly.

1413
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:25,760
However, I believe that because of the flexibility that's built into the ordinance, the board

1414
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:32,000
of supervisors, if you adopt this rate, you can always go below the rate.

1415
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:37,280
You don't have to go back to the voters for approval of that, so even at a $3.5 percent

1416
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:44,480
rate, if the market fell out and the price decreased dramatically.

1417
02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:52,000
The next year, you can say, well, we want to reduce the $3.5 to $1.5 for $1.75 or whatever,

1418
02:37:52,000 --> 02:38:01,120
so you have that ability to do that without having, including a mechanism that adjust that

1419
02:38:01,120 --> 02:38:06,880
wholesale value for pound.

1420
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:12,280
These are some of the rates that we looked at as a comparison for what you'll see in other

1421
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:19,960
places, Monterey is a $25 a square foot with a CPI modifier, so no amount has a varying rate,

1422
02:38:19,960 --> 02:38:26,520
but it's up to $38 per square foot, full lingo is $25 per square foot, and the city of Medesto

1423
02:38:26,520 --> 02:38:32,280
has a straight percentage, which is a model that the county can go to, a percentage of revenue,

1424
02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:39,000
as opposed to a square footage, and stop them, of course, is just a percentage of gross receipts.

1425
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:46,280
We're all of the non-cultivation licenses.

1426
02:38:46,280 --> 02:38:53,000
We applied the same rate range at 3.5 percent to 15 percent, and we're recommending that the

1427
02:38:53,000 --> 02:39:02,840
initial rate would be set at 3.5 percent.

1428
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:10,040
When we modeled this tax ordinance, we made certain assumptions, I've already spoken to the assumptions

1429
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:16,760
that go to cultivation, but we also had some assumptions so that we could make some projection

1430
02:39:16,760 --> 02:39:20,520
to the board about the amount of revenue that it taxed like this would generate.

1431
02:39:22,120 --> 02:39:29,560
As we've spoken about previously, the state did a survey, 2016, and in that survey there were

1432
02:39:29,560 --> 02:39:36,120
249 or so responses that said, I would like to have some more of a license,

1433
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:39,960
cannabis, commercial cannabis license, in San Joaquin County.

1434
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:46,280
We looked at those rates, then, and they're broken out by cultivators, retail,

1435
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:52,600
manufacturer, distributors, and testing labs, and because of the discussion of the board,

1436
02:39:53,400 --> 02:40:02,360
to not open the floodgate, but to have a small controlled number, we've used 10 percent of those

1437
02:40:02,360 --> 02:40:12,760
249 applicants to model the tax on. At 10 percent, we're looking at 13 cultivators,

1438
02:40:12,760 --> 02:40:20,920
various sizes, two retail, two manufacturers, two distributors, and testing labs, and that is straight,

1439
02:40:20,920 --> 02:40:26,200
just 10 percent from the numbers that were reported on the state survey.

1440
02:40:33,080 --> 02:40:42,120
The revenue estimates for cultivation at, for those 13 licenses,

1441
02:40:44,120 --> 02:40:51,160
interaged approximately $4.2 million per year, and the non-cultivation license at 3.5 percent

1442
02:40:51,160 --> 02:41:01,400
produces about $650,000 per year. That non-cultivation figure was based on the revenue that was indicated

1443
02:41:01,400 --> 02:41:16,200
by our consultants, HDL. Because we didn't want you to look at the revenue and isolation.

1444
02:41:17,560 --> 02:41:23,960
As part of our working group, I ask that all of the members of our working group put together in a

1445
02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:31,080
worst case scenario. As was discussed earlier this morning, we don't have a fully fleshed out

1446
02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:40,360
regulation in place for how this industry is going to go forward. I asked a department to prepare a

1447
02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:48,920
worst case scenario that includes both their fees, so that the costs that they would seek to recover

1448
02:41:48,920 --> 02:41:56,280
from the business from the industry, as well as what they see as impacts that may or may not be addressed

1449
02:41:56,280 --> 02:42:03,960
by fees. These are the figures that we came up with, and so you've got about $7.98 million dollars

1450
02:42:03,960 --> 02:42:12,680
that are included there. Some of that is going to be recoverable fees. Looking at what other counties

1451
02:42:12,680 --> 02:42:21,480
have estimated for their program costs, they have estimated somewhere between 3.1 and 3.5 million

1452
02:42:21,480 --> 02:42:31,400
dollars for program costs. That would represent about between 30 and 40 percent of these estimated

1453
02:42:31,400 --> 02:42:38,280
expenses would bring you out about 3.1 million dollars. I think that's probably a good rule of

1454
02:42:38,280 --> 02:42:47,640
some to use going forward. As we go further with the regulations and development, we will come back

1455
02:42:47,640 --> 02:42:54,440
to the board with a more developed fee schedule than for the board to adopt.

1456
02:42:54,440 --> 02:43:13,640
As I said earlier, a general tax requires a four-fits board approval to call for that election

1457
02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:23,640
and requires a simple majority vote of the electorate. The benefit of the general tax is that there are

1458
02:43:23,640 --> 02:43:33,880
no limitations placed on how you spend the money. As you heard this morning with the need for

1459
02:43:33,880 --> 02:43:41,880
in the community for homelessness housing under a general tax, you could use revenue for homeless housing.

1460
02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:51,320
You could use revenue for the airport, you could use revenue for any number of social organizations to

1461
02:43:51,320 --> 02:43:57,640
benefit their projects that they do. It falls into the general fund and so there are no limitations

1462
02:43:57,640 --> 02:44:08,360
on how you use that money. However, if the board is unable to support a general tax, then the

1463
02:44:08,360 --> 02:44:16,920
alternative would be a special tax. Special tax requires a simple majority for board approval.

1464
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:23,000
So on the seventh, when we come back, if it's a special tax, it only requires three of you to

1465
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:29,320
move that forward to the ballot. However, once it's on the ballot, it requires a two-thirds majority vote

1466
02:44:29,320 --> 02:44:38,120
of the electorate. You are limited by the language and the ordinance on what you spend that money on

1467
02:44:38,120 --> 02:44:43,000
and as a special tax, you're required to call out how you're going to spend that money.

1468
02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:59,160
We looked at how the state has proceeded with their tax measure. One of the things that the state said was,

1469
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:14,000
We're going to get paid back first. Everything, you know, we're going to scrape off the top to make sure that the state's coffers are made whole from this program first.

1470
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:29,000
And I think that that's a proper model to use whether you go forward with a general tax or whether you go forward with a special tax, that the county shouldn't be out any revenue for having this program go forward.

1471
02:45:29,000 --> 02:45:46,000
So we have included in the special tax language to recover for the regulation and enforcement of the prosecution of both legal and illegal cannabis operations.

1472
02:45:46,000 --> 02:45:53,000
And consistent with the comments that we've heard from the board and consistent with the people that have appeared before the board.

1473
02:45:53,000 --> 02:46:12,000
We have included other categories where those funds could be spent for use programs early education, early childhood education to K-12 programs, behavioral health, drug addiction, drug abuse, education programs, and also public health programs.

1474
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:29,000
That would include not not only the public health department, but also programs at the hospital that falls within that public health environment.

1475
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:50,000
The language that we've provided you'll see before you, special tax allocations, it's to expand on cannabis enforcement, including but not limited to licensing regulation, enforcement, and administration of licensed cannabis businesses, and the investigation, abatement, eradication, and prosecution, and illegal cannabis activities.

1476
02:46:50,000 --> 02:47:00,000
Early childhood development in K-12 programs, drug abuse prevention and treatment programs and public health programs.

1477
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:19,000
If the board desires to make changes in that, the requirement under state law when we're introducing an ordinance like this is that the board cannot adopt an ordinance that's had changes made at the introduction way reading for seven days.

1478
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:30,000
By bringing it back on the seventh, we have plenty of time, but now is the time to make the changes to the ordinance in today's meeting.

1479
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:37,000
And then we can go forward and bring that modified ordinance forward on the seventh.

1480
02:47:37,000 --> 02:47:48,000
If the changes are made on the seventh, that will simply delay the process. We'll have to go through the noticing process again.

1481
02:47:49,000 --> 02:48:05,000
In addition with the special tax allocation, we have included language that for the board to establish an advisory committee to make recommendations on the allocation of those expenditures.

1482
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:16,000
So we did not include specific percentages for those categories, because I believe that if you're going to go with.

1483
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:23,000
My goal in drafting this is to provide maximum flexibility for the county to meet the county's needs.

1484
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:29,000
So if you're going to go with a special tax as opposed to a general tax.

1485
02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:39,000
I would advise against having carved in place those percentages because in year one the amount that you may need to spend on law enforcement.

1486
02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:44,000
Maybe significantly different from what you need in year five.

1487
02:48:44,000 --> 02:48:48,000
And so I think that you need some latitude there.

1488
02:48:48,000 --> 02:49:00,000
And so I have not included percentages for those those different cost buckets if you will.

1489
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:11,000
Although certainly the board can do that and in some cases municipalities and counties do include specifics of how those dollars will be spent.

1490
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:27,000
In the alternative though, we have included in the ordinance language for the board to establish that advisory committee to make the annual recommendations for the expenditure of those funds.

1491
02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:36,000
The staff's recommendation is introducing way of reading of an ordinance imposing a general tax on commercial candidates activities in the end incorporated county.

1492
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:45,000
We request that you set November 7, 2017 at 9 a.m. or approval of that general tax.

1493
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:50,000
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

1494
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:55,000
Any questions?

1495
02:49:55,000 --> 02:49:59,000
I will take the opportunity for public comment.

1496
02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:01,000
So.

1497
02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:02,000
I have.

1498
02:50:02,000 --> 02:50:05,000
I would supplement.

1499
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:11,000
The board my.

1500
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:14,000
My comment's going to be very limited.

1501
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:19,000
If you're going to give the voters the opportunity to make that decision.

1502
02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:22,000
And considering the make up of this present board.

1503
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:25,000
The only way that I can go forward is for a special tax.

1504
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:39,000
I don't think that there is any possibility of the voters having a say in the with this board in the event that you require a general tax.

1505
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:48,000
Can you put in.

1506
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:53,000
I just like to make a few comments about the.

1507
02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:57,000
Excuse me, the tax and fees that were quoted.

1508
02:50:57,000 --> 02:51:00,000
For my experience and and from what I've gathered with clients.

1509
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:03,000
I numerous cultivators.

1510
02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:06,000
Who are my clients in the industry.

1511
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:15,000
And the price of cannabis right now for indoor grows is approximately 1,400 to 1,600 a pound 1,800 max.

1512
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:21,000
And keep in mind that we'll only get lower as more cultivators are licensed in this industry.

1513
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:25,000
Additionally mixed light has always been lower for the price.

1514
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:32,000
It's approximately 1,200 to 1,400 to 1,400 to 1,400 per pound.

1515
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:35,000
And as you would imagine outdoors even lower.

1516
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:43,000
So I recommend you keep that in consideration when deciding upon the taxes for cultivators.

1517
02:51:44,000 --> 02:51:51,000
I have not seen a municipality with a tax rate higher than 25 dollars per square foot.

1518
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:56,000
I think if the board decides to do higher than 25 dollars per square foot.

1519
02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:59,000
That you will be pricing yourself out of the market.

1520
02:51:59,000 --> 02:52:05,000
There is plenty of municipalities surrounding San Joaquin County that are issuing cultivation licenses.

1521
02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:12,000
And I don't want to see San Joaquin County miss out on a possible tax revenue because they.

1522
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:25,000
That also leads me to my next point that I recommend a percentage of the revenue rather than a square foot tax per square foot.

1523
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:34,000
The reason being is that because the state has highly regulated the growing standards for cultivators.

1524
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:37,000
There is going to be a high failure rate.

1525
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:48,000
It's better to receive the tax revenue from something that will actually come into fruition rather than a harvest that totally fails and have a.

1526
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:52,000
Cultivator who will have to stop all operations.

1527
02:52:52,000 --> 02:53:02,000
That means that I just wanted to provide you an additional as of new municipalities around San Joaquin County that have tax rates.

1528
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:10,000
San Joaquin County 10% Santa Cruz 7 to 10% Mancino is 2.5 up to 10%

1529
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:14,000
Manorosa is 2% or 5 dollars per square foot.

1530
02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:19,000
It's at the licensees decision or discretion.

1531
02:53:19,000 --> 02:53:29,000
Oakland is 5% Sacramento 4% and Salinas is 15 dollars per square foot up to 25 dollars per square foot maximum.

1532
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:42,000
And one last point on the fees I would hope that when county council comes back with the fees that are going to be charged to the licensees that we have it further break down because as county council mentioned,

1533
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:46,000
they need to be commiserate with the services that the county provides.

1534
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,000
Thank you.

1535
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:50,000
Thank you.

1536
02:53:51,000 --> 02:53:58,000
Good morning, Chairman when supervisors.

1537
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:06,000
I'm a dollar executive director for family resource and referral center and I've served on the San Joaquin.

1538
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:11,000
First five San Joaquin children and families commission since 2009.

1539
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:17,000
My comments today are made with the care and concern of the residents of our county that I share with all of you.

1540
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:23,000
This is a very nuanced and challenging conversation which requires a great deal of courage.

1541
02:54:23,000 --> 02:54:29,000
There are issues and there will be issues if San Joaquin County legalizes cannabis.

1542
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:35,000
However, the reality is there are issues right now facing families and children.

1543
02:54:35,000 --> 02:54:39,000
Cannabis is here and we have to deal with it now.

1544
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:51,000
The only thing we achieve with a continued ban is to ensure that we'll have to deal with those issues with no additional resources to mitigate them effectively.

1545
02:54:51,000 --> 02:54:57,000
With legalization occurring in Washington in Colorado state.

1546
02:54:57,000 --> 02:55:02,000
Since 2012, the road is well paved and the initial lessons are well learned.

1547
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:08,000
By studying those and applying our regional lens, we can move thoughtfully to engage this market.

1548
02:55:08,000 --> 02:55:16,000
A ban will not protect our community because a ban hasn't protected our community.

1549
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:24,000
Thoughtful study like our county is done to date and engagement is the best way to move us forward.

1550
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:32,000
Engaging legal cannabis enterprise gives us the ability to protect our community by reducing the illegal market.

1551
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:40,000
And regulating those businesses allows us to control where they exist and how they'll impact our lives.

1552
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:46,000
The sheriff is reported to the sport that he will see increased costs whether or not we think lies.

1553
02:55:46,000 --> 02:56:00,000
Maintaining a ban limits our resources to make any impact on illegal activity that's already in our neighborhoods across the county and in closer proximity to our children and youth than we want.

1554
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:09,000
Studies indicate that there's an impact to the fetus and also an impact to a young person's brain developing brain through their early 20s.

1555
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:22,000
Taxing cannabis allows the creation and implementation of comprehensive prevention programs including education campaigns that cannon will decrease under age usage.

1556
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:35,000
We can say this with confidence because California has been a movement leader in smoking cessation by funding a combination of efforts that have worked including among other tools mass media and tysmoking advertisements.

1557
02:56:35,000 --> 02:56:39,000
School education programs and smoke free policies.

1558
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:47,000
The combination of these efforts in California has reduced adult and under age smoking rates by 50% since 1989.

1559
02:56:47,000 --> 02:56:55,000
This comprehensive effort demonstrates how education engagement can work far more effectively than just say no.

1560
02:56:55,000 --> 02:57:01,000
California's rates have been reduced four times faster than other places in the U.S.

1561
02:57:01,000 --> 02:57:09,000
Just in wrapping up as someone who's worked to improve lives of children and families for two and a half decades in this county.

1562
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:18,000
If you would have told me I would stand before the sport and advocate for cannabis enterprise ten years ago, I would have left.

1563
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:23,000
Cannabis is a reality that we must deal with as effectively as possible.

1564
02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:34,000
The lack of positive impact from prohibition through the years on cannabis versus the positive impact education and support has had on cannabis.

1565
02:57:34,000 --> 02:57:42,000
Demonstrated through examples like smoking cessation moves me to encourage the board to legalize.

1566
02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:49,000
Regulate and tax cannabis and to dedication dedicated portion of that revenue to children and youth prevention programs.

1567
02:57:49,000 --> 02:57:52,000
Thank you for your time.

1568
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:55,000
Maggie Park.

1569
02:58:05,000 --> 02:58:08,000
Good morning board.

1570
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:11,000
Maggie Park from public health and also first live commissioner.

1571
02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:18,000
I'm here again to ask that you keep the children a salmon king in mind if there's to be any revenue generated by the cannabis industry.

1572
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:25,000
As a local pediatrician, I worked for many years at salmon king general hospital and community medical centers.

1573
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:30,000
I've taken care of many beautiful children and many beautiful but troubled children.

1574
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:36,000
Children with behavioral issues, developmental delays, academic difficulties, mental health disorders.

1575
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:39,000
I've written many prescriptions for medications for ADHD.

1576
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:42,000
And on many occasions those drugs have worked wonders.

1577
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:51,000
But sometimes making a diagnosis such as ADHD is not enough and medications are not enough and the child continues to struggle.

1578
02:58:51,000 --> 02:58:58,000
And I've wondered what's the diagnosis here? What am I missing? What has happened to this child?

1579
02:58:58,000 --> 02:59:03,000
In many of these situations the child is being raised by a grandmother or perhaps a foster mother.

1580
02:59:03,000 --> 02:59:06,000
I can't tell you how many times a grandmother has asked me.

1581
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:11,000
Do you think my grandson is like this because his mother smoked pot when she was pregnant?

1582
02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:15,000
Honestly, many grandmothers have asked me this about a struggling child.

1583
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:18,000
And over the years I've come to believe that they're right.

1584
02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:22,000
I have no test that I can do on a child to prove it.

1585
02:59:22,000 --> 02:59:33,000
But we do have plenty of research that links intrauterine marijuana exposure to low birth weight, signs and symptoms of ADHD, psychotropic problems, and poor academic achievement.

1586
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:42,000
THC has an affinity for fat, so it loves to get stored in the brain and by the way that's also why it loves to hang out in breast milk.

1587
02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:48,000
And through some complex biochemical mechanisms it changes neural connections in the brain.

1588
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:53,000
The evidence for these effects on the brain is even stronger when it comes to studies on an adolescence.

1589
02:59:53,000 --> 03:00:00,000
We can take images of their brains and see where cannabis goes and see the loss of neurons in those regions over time.

1590
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:10,000
1. Yet, when I asked my teenage patients privately about drug use, I'd often hear them say, no, I don't use drugs, I just use pot.

1591
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:21,000
Or, I smoke pop, but it's not like I smoke cigarettes. They know tobacco is bad for them, but somehow they don't know what marijuana can do. They don't know about the risks.

1592
03:00:21,000 --> 03:00:29,000
With different parts of our country moving towards the legalization of cannabis, the American Academy of Pediatrics felt compelled to release this statement.

1593
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:41,000
Efforts to decriminalize marijuana should take place in conjunction with efforts to prevent marijuana use and promote early treatment of adolescents with marijuana use problems.

1594
03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:50,000
I once said to a kid, hey, you say marijuana is not a big deal, so why don't you just stop? And he said he needed it to deal with stress.

1595
03:00:50,000 --> 03:01:00,000
We need to help kids like him deal with their stress, somehow to get to the root of their stress, and maybe even prevent the same kind of stressors from affecting other kids.

1596
03:01:00,000 --> 03:01:12,000
Because it's not just about marijuana or drugs, we have kids who are homeless, hungry, abused, depressed, getting bullied at school, dropping out of school, getting themselves in jail.

1597
03:01:12,000 --> 03:01:18,000
There's a lot of issues we need to tackle, but we have a lot of dedicated people right here in San Joaquin.

1598
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:26,000
In fact, right here in this room, who dream of tackling them, and we're ready to do some good things for our kids if there's an opportunity.

1599
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:28,000
Thank you.

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03:01:29,000 --> 03:01:31,000
Thank you.

1601
03:01:31,000 --> 03:01:34,000
Who's there Rodriguez?

1602
03:01:50,000 --> 03:01:53,000
Thanks, thank you.

1603
03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:01,000
Good afternoon. Thank you for this opportunity.

1604
03:02:01,000 --> 03:02:07,000
I am Jane Stein campus assistant superintendent for educational services at the San Joaquin County Office of Education,

1605
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:12,000
and I'm here on behalf of our superintendent James Missileamus.

1606
03:02:12,000 --> 03:02:21,000
As an educational entity, San Joaquin County Office of Education is not endorsed the legalization of marijuana or any of its related industries.

1607
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:25,000
But my purpose here today is to ask that should you decide to legalize,

1608
03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:28,000
we encourage you to heavily tax this industry.

1609
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:35,000
As we've already shown, taxing this industry will create an essential funding stream to provide the necessary prevention education

1610
03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:40,000
and child-centered initiatives, such as the work being done by the Children's Alliance.

1611
03:02:40,000 --> 03:02:49,000
What we know for sure is that prevention education initiatives work as evidenced by the following examples and K reference this earlier.

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03:02:49,000 --> 03:02:54,000
But in 1982, I graduated from a high school here in Stockton, California.

1613
03:02:54,000 --> 03:03:02,000
And I remember that there was a smoking session section just outside the cafeteria where the students and the teachers could smoke together.

1614
03:03:02,000 --> 03:03:04,000
You clearly don't see that anymore.

1615
03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:05,000
Why?

1616
03:03:05,000 --> 03:03:11,000
Because in 1988, one of the earliest prevention education initiatives funded through taxation began.

1617
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:21,000
Photers in California increased the tobacco tax by 25 cents and two-thirds of that funding was allocated to local education agency for tobacco use prevention.

1618
03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:33,000
In 1991, the first year data was collected and at that time, 27% of students reported consistent tobacco use by 2014 that number has been cut in half.

1619
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:36,000
In fact, we use prevention education.

1620
03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:45,000
In fact, prevention education has decreased the rate statewide. California is one of two states with the two lowest rates of smoking among adults.

1621
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:49,000
In the late 1990s, family life and sex education began in schools.

1622
03:03:49,000 --> 03:03:55,000
Since then, teen pregnancy rates have declined dramatically by 65.3%.

1623
03:03:55,000 --> 03:03:59,000
And abortion rates have declined by 16.3%.

1624
03:03:59,000 --> 03:04:07,000
Since 1992, all public schools are required to teach HIV-AIDS education at least once in middle and once in high school.

1625
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:20,000
The most recent statistics show that between 2008 and 2014, new HIV-AIDS infections between bisexual men 13 to 24 years old decreased by 18%.

1626
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:29,000
In 1997, represented the peak rate for adolescent drinking 65% of adolescents reported drinking at least once a day.

1627
03:04:29,000 --> 03:04:36,000
In 2000, alcohol prevention education efforts in public education increased dramatically and the rates have slowly declined.

1628
03:04:37,000 --> 03:04:45,000
48% decline in daily use by 8th graders, 30% decline by 10th graders and 15% decline by 12th graders.

1629
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:51,000
We still have a long way to go in all of these areas, but clearly prevention education works.

1630
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:56,000
Therefore, if you decide to jump into this ocean, please help us help you.

1631
03:04:56,000 --> 03:04:59,000
Don't build us a dinghy or even a fishing boat.

1632
03:04:59,000 --> 03:05:11,000
Use your ability to tax this industry to build us a cargo ship so that the local education agencies and our partners, such as children's alliance, can give the kids in our county the support that they need.

1633
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:12,000
Thank you.

1634
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:15,000
Thank you.

1635
03:05:15,000 --> 03:05:18,000
Raymond Aguilar.

1636
03:05:18,000 --> 03:05:21,000
Raymond Aguilar.

1637
03:05:30,000 --> 03:05:32,000
Good morning, Board of Supervisors.

1638
03:05:32,000 --> 03:05:33,000
My name is Raymond Aguilar.

1639
03:05:33,000 --> 03:05:36,000
I'm a youth movement builder and leader in the community.

1640
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:41,000
Today, I'm here to talk to you about the impact of cannabis and the communities of color and some of the county.

1641
03:05:41,000 --> 03:05:47,000
People of color are no more likely to use drugs, but they are yet two and a half to five times more likely to be arrested.

1642
03:05:47,000 --> 03:05:51,000
These disparities have sincere and long-lasting consequences.

1643
03:05:51,000 --> 03:05:56,000
Once charged with marijuana offenses, people can be legally discriminated against in housing and employment.

1644
03:05:56,000 --> 03:06:00,000
The nice student loans, the nice public housing and the nice public assistance.

1645
03:06:00,000 --> 03:06:05,000
The impact of this has been to plunge children and families into poverty, exposing them to greater trauma.

1646
03:06:05,000 --> 03:06:10,000
And now we're looking to legalize the very substance that is unfortunately impacted people.

1647
03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:15,000
As a young mentor, I see this every day in my community walking down the streets.

1648
03:06:15,000 --> 03:06:17,000
I see a lot of homelessness.

1649
03:06:17,000 --> 03:06:18,000
We talked about homelessness.

1650
03:06:18,000 --> 03:06:23,000
Many of these people that are out of homelessness are suffering because they have to go in any charges.

1651
03:06:23,000 --> 03:06:24,000
Marijuana charges.

1652
03:06:24,000 --> 03:06:27,000
So now they cannot get employment. They cannot get loans.

1653
03:06:27,000 --> 03:06:30,000
They are suffering from the same issues that we're now trying to pass.

1654
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:38,000
And if we do pass this, we ask that you get some of the tax money into help to invest back into the community, primarily those of color.

1655
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:43,000
We have a lot of children and other suffering that have no parents there because they are in the criminal system.

1656
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:45,000
But yet we're now legalizing this.

1657
03:06:45,000 --> 03:06:51,000
So to help back in our community, I would ask that you guys to please also invest in the reentry.

1658
03:06:51,000 --> 03:06:54,000
I didn't see anything on the reentry when I looked up there.

1659
03:06:54,000 --> 03:07:00,000
I didn't say the money would be used to help people to reentry back into society at the reanimcarsary.

1660
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:05,000
So how can we now give to the reentry folks to rehabilitate them and also give to the educators,

1661
03:07:05,000 --> 03:07:10,000
so that way they can be more trauma-informed and dealing with those people of color.

1662
03:07:10,000 --> 03:07:12,000
Again, thank you very much for your time.

1663
03:07:12,000 --> 03:07:14,000
Thank you.

1664
03:07:14,000 --> 03:07:16,000
Victoria.

1665
03:07:21,000 --> 03:07:26,000
Good afternoon.

1666
03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:28,000
Chair Win and supervisors.

1667
03:07:28,000 --> 03:07:35,000
My name is Victoria Brenn and I'm the public information officer and director of community outreach from anti-beunified school district.

1668
03:07:35,000 --> 03:07:42,000
I'm here on behalf of the superintendent, Jason Messer of MUSD and I'll read his statement next.

1669
03:07:42,000 --> 03:07:50,000
I'm here today to stand with others in our encouragement of supporting and focusing on the needed educational components relative to cannabis.

1670
03:07:50,000 --> 03:08:00,000
I do not believe that the legalization of cannabis will change the impact of its use and or abuse on our students or our community.

1671
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:11,000
But I do believe the ability to regulate tax and educate will change our ability to mitigate the impact of cannabis use and abuse that already exists.

1672
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:23,000
The education community wants and needs to be a strong partner in whatever decisions this body makes about the cannabis industry in San Joaquin County.

1673
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:29,000
About a year ago, I was at one of our high schools and I visited a government in any con class.

1674
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:39,000
The students were broken into small groups and they had to create a political party, then research that party and lobby for or against one of the current propositions.

1675
03:08:39,000 --> 03:08:43,000
By far, the most popular proposition was Proposition 64.

1676
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:47,000
Students were lobbying for the passage of the proposition.

1677
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:57,000
They had very good reasons for their support, which in part centers around the regulation of cannabis and the age restrictions which were included in the proposition.

1678
03:08:57,000 --> 03:09:06,000
What was apparent to me was the lack of understanding these students had relative to the impact of use or abuse on their persons.

1679
03:09:06,000 --> 03:09:16,000
I asked each group a simple question, which is the easiest of these to get cigarettes, alcohol or pot cannabis.

1680
03:09:16,000 --> 03:09:21,000
100% responded that pot cannabis was the easiest to get.

1681
03:09:21,000 --> 03:09:34,000
I believe that must do with the fact that unlike cigarettes or alcohol, we have not educated society or our students enough on the negative effects of cannabis on the developing brain.

1682
03:09:34,000 --> 03:09:52,000
According to new data from the substance abuse and mental health services administration, well over 70% of our youth ages 12 to 17 indicate they received no great risks from smoking pot once a month.

1683
03:09:52,000 --> 03:09:59,000
Education is needed to help our students understand that smoking weed can impact their brain development.

1684
03:09:59,000 --> 03:10:05,000
A growing number of studies show that regular marijuana usage changes the structure of the teen brain.

1685
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:16,000
One study from Duke University in 2014 showed an 8.8 loss in IQ between those who use marijuana and those who did not.

1686
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:25,000
Ladies and gentlemen, we have educational models that work in reducing use and impacting the effects of use on students and the community.

1687
03:10:25,000 --> 03:10:34,000
We need to look no further than our successes with tobacco and the greater than 50% reduction reported by students by the year 2000.

1688
03:10:34,000 --> 03:10:49,000
Education campaigns work and any legalized cannabis activity in San Joaquin County needs to include and provide the needed revenue to ensure these effective campaigns are brought to our students.

1689
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:54,000
Thank you for your time.

1690
03:10:54,000 --> 03:11:04,000
Thank you.

1691
03:11:04,000 --> 03:11:07,000
Good afternoon, Chairwin and supervisors.

1692
03:11:07,000 --> 03:11:17,000
First, I'd like to take a quick moment to thank Miss Nena and Miss Merrill for meeting with us and that we appreciate their time and that they've met with the members of the San Joaquin Children's Alliance.

1693
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:27,000
The cannabis policy project has obviously been an enormous undertaking and we appreciate that they have a commitment to engage the community and present their options to this board.

1694
03:11:27,000 --> 03:11:35,000
With that, the San Joaquin Children's Alliance has been advocating for increased local investment and prevention before this board for almost two years.

1695
03:11:35,000 --> 03:11:48,000
We have come again to urge that if the board legalizes any cannabis enterprise in San Joaquin County, then they should direct 50% of this new tax revenue towards children in youth prevention programming.

1696
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:53,000
If you are here today in support and I'd like to acknowledge that most of our people had to leave.

1697
03:11:53,000 --> 03:11:58,000
If you're here today in support, I'd like to give them the opportunity for those who sat through the three hours.

1698
03:11:58,000 --> 03:12:00,000
Would you please stand?

1699
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:11,000
I'd like to also let you know that just in four or five days we had an online signature campaign to support that statement and we had well over 125 signatures gathered in just those four few days.

1700
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:13,000
Thank you for standing.

1701
03:12:13,000 --> 03:12:20,000
When the Alliance first took up this effort we put forward the idea of a set aside of a portion of revenue growth in the general budget each year.

1702
03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:28,000
We heard back from staff and supervisors alike that the county budget was still recovering from recession and that money was needed to restore budgets.

1703
03:12:28,000 --> 03:12:31,000
Responding appropriately to this information we set back.

1704
03:12:31,000 --> 03:12:38,000
We asked for the children in youth task force and began an analysis of all potential revenue streams that give you utilized for prevention.

1705
03:12:38,000 --> 03:12:43,000
Next week, you'll hear a summary of all that work from the children's in youth task force.

1706
03:12:43,000 --> 03:12:47,000
If cannabis enterprises allowed in San Joaquin County, this will be a new revenue in the county.

1707
03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:57,000
There will be expenses and the county must cover its expenses, but it is imperative that from the beginning we remember that this is new revenue and prevention programming works.

1708
03:12:57,000 --> 03:13:07,000
Aside from the obvious compassion we feel for children and our collective desire to see all children thrive, there is a positive fiscal impact when we invest in children and families to prevent future problems.

1709
03:13:07,000 --> 03:13:13,000
The long term physical and mental health impacts from such an event of child abuse neglect alone.

1710
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:19,000
Could have a lifetime impact on our hospitals, law enforcement, judicial and social services.

1711
03:13:19,000 --> 03:13:28,000
It's estimated that the immediate and long-term economic impact of child abuse neglect costs this nation as much as $250 million a day.

1712
03:13:28,000 --> 03:13:33,000
Here in San Joaquin County, three children died this summer from child abuse.

1713
03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:44,000
And we will now spend local dollars to try and potentially incarcerate those responsible at a rate much higher than it would have cost to provide those programs to stabilize those families.

1714
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:50,000
There are many people both here in this room and around this county doing impactful outcome driven work.

1715
03:13:50,000 --> 03:13:56,000
And with increased investment, we can help more children and youth thrive, which is only to the benefit of everyone in our county.

1716
03:13:56,000 --> 03:13:58,000
Thank you.

1717
03:13:58,000 --> 03:14:00,000
Thank you.

1718
03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:02,000
Is that true, Bob?

1719
03:14:02,000 --> 03:14:09,000
Good morning, Chairman Wind.

1720
03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:10,000
Members of the board.

1721
03:14:10,000 --> 03:14:12,000
Thank you for the opportunity to be heard.

1722
03:14:12,000 --> 03:14:16,000
I'm Dr. Bond and attorney, born raise and practicing out of stock in California and for over a year.

1723
03:14:16,000 --> 03:14:25,000
My firm is in focus exclusively on cannabis policy reform advocacy and representation of industry members transitioning into the state's commercial structure.

1724
03:14:25,000 --> 03:14:27,000
I'm here this morning.

1725
03:14:27,000 --> 03:14:36,000
I'd like to strongly encourage the boards of placement onto the ballot of attacks on commercial cannabis businesses, but also as land uses that would contribute to that tax revenue stream.

1726
03:14:36,000 --> 03:14:43,000
The allowance that makes like greenhouse indoor cultivation and nurseries in the agricultural zones of the county.

1727
03:14:43,000 --> 03:14:46,000
The potential benefits of a commercial cannabis tax are clear.

1728
03:14:46,000 --> 03:14:54,000
However, the projected volume of potential licensees is extremely narrow and I would caution a board.

1729
03:14:54,000 --> 03:15:00,000
That placing a heavy tax burden on a limited number and arbitrarily limited number.

1730
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:06,000
Of prospective licensees is not a solution to address this revenue problem that you are facing.

1731
03:15:06,000 --> 03:15:17,000
With the county's decision to move forward with the regulation of commercial cannabis businesses, it is critical that you take an objective and open-minded approach to zoning for development of these business operations.

1732
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:28,000
With the vast agricultural land available for cultivation, Sam King County, it would serve a detriment to property owners, prospective businesses, as well as the community at large for that land to go unutilize in this sense.

1733
03:15:28,000 --> 03:15:36,000
The number of commercial cannabis businesses that may be established in any jurisdiction is limited initially by the availability of the objectively viable real estate.

1734
03:15:36,000 --> 03:15:41,000
The volume of industrial zone land in the county is miniscule when compared to that which is zonedag.

1735
03:15:41,000 --> 03:15:52,000
Accordingly, the potential benefit to the community stemming from commercial cannabis regulation and taxation would be stifled if businesses were relegated exclusively to the industrial zones.

1736
03:15:52,000 --> 03:15:59,000
Similarly, to truly provide safe access for consumers, utilizing the available albeit limited commercial property within this jurisdiction.

1737
03:15:59,000 --> 03:16:05,000
For storefront dispensaries is another prudent step that can be taken to increase revenue and thus the benefit to the community.

1738
03:16:05,000 --> 03:16:11,000
Limited cannabis cultivation to indoor and mixed-light structures will minimize if not eliminate the impact of surrounding properties.

1739
03:16:11,000 --> 03:16:24,000
Primitive fencing, onsite security, odor control systems, surveillance camera systems, and both regular and random inspections by authorities are just a few examples of means to accomplish a safe and responsibly administered regulatory atmosphere.

1740
03:16:24,000 --> 03:16:33,000
The security personnel and infrastructure provided at these locations will serve to make the communities in which they operate safer.

1741
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:50,000
Although there have been a few vocal constituents from the agricultural community who advocate for an outright ban on commercial cannabis regulation, there are in fact many traditional agricultural constituents who are interested in potential of the cannabis industry for their own businesses, for their families and for their employees.

1742
03:16:50,000 --> 03:17:02,000
Indeed, collaboration between cannabis industry members and traditional agricultural operators is ongoing and creating a synergy that is unprecedented and unique here in California, the largest cannabis economy in the world.

1743
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:09,000
I appreciate your open-mindedness and thoughtful consideration on this important issue.

1744
03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:11,000
Thank you for your time.

1745
03:17:11,000 --> 03:17:13,000
Thank you.

1746
03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:15,000
Jason Discivatory.

1747
03:17:18,000 --> 03:17:19,000
Okay.

1748
03:17:19,000 --> 03:17:20,000
Thank you.

1749
03:17:20,000 --> 03:17:23,000
Okay, anyone else?

1750
03:17:23,000 --> 03:17:24,000
Okay.

1751
03:17:24,000 --> 03:17:25,000
All right.

1752
03:17:25,000 --> 03:17:30,000
Seeing no one and considering the time and I'm sure my fellow board members are anxious.

1753
03:17:31,000 --> 03:17:36,000
I will adjourn the meeting and reconvene at one o'clock.

1754
03:17:36,000 --> 03:17:37,000
Thank you.

1755
03:17:54,000 --> 03:17:59,000
We've had public comment.

1756
03:17:59,000 --> 03:18:03,000
So any comments from the board?

1757
03:18:03,000 --> 03:18:09,000
Mr. Chairman, there is one thing that I would like to clarify.

1758
03:18:09,000 --> 03:18:13,000
I forgot to bring this up in my earlier presentation.

1759
03:18:13,000 --> 03:18:27,000
The question has been posed on a couple of occasions and discussion has incurred about whether or not the vote for the tax can be held in the unincorporated only or whether to county.

1760
03:18:27,000 --> 03:18:32,000
Who are the voters who get the vote on the question?

1761
03:18:32,000 --> 03:18:36,000
We have looked at this.

1762
03:18:36,000 --> 03:18:53,000
If the county had a CSA for law enforcement, for example, that was in the unincorporated area only, then you could limit the vote to that CSA boundary.

1763
03:18:53,000 --> 03:18:55,000
We don't have any vehicle like that.

1764
03:18:55,000 --> 03:19:08,000
And in the absence of a vehicle like that, where you're tying the tax to a specific benefit like that, it's our conclusion that it's the county white.

1765
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:22,000
That being said, if the direction of the board is to prepare an ordinance that is for the and have the vote and the unincorporated county only, we will certainly carry out the vote of the vote.

1766
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:25,000
But the will of the board.

1767
03:19:25,000 --> 03:19:30,000
But we think that there are that it's challengeable to do so.

1768
03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:31,000
All right.

1769
03:19:31,000 --> 03:19:32,000
Well, you're right.

1770
03:19:32,000 --> 03:19:33,000
That question has been asked.

1771
03:19:33,000 --> 03:19:39,000
And I think probably because county residents feel that we represent them.

1772
03:19:39,000 --> 03:19:42,000
They're for anything that is getting.

1773
03:19:42,000 --> 03:19:45,000
We would do they would affect their land land use.

1774
03:19:45,000 --> 03:19:51,000
Should be limited to their vote and not to cities that really have no direct impact.

1775
03:19:51,000 --> 03:20:01,000
In regards to that, and I understand I know it's super acknowledge talked about the county white effect, but.

1776
03:20:01,000 --> 03:20:12,000
Irrespective of of maybe the general law and I is me, it's just an an act of fairness.

1777
03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:21,000
We will allow county residents in the on a corporate area to weigh in on something that will directly affect their neighborhoods, their communities.

1778
03:20:21,000 --> 03:20:25,000
Even the industrial areas are centered because it's all on a corporate that we're talking about.

1779
03:20:25,000 --> 03:20:30,000
We're not talking about and you know, and I those side of cities have done their fair share.

1780
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:41,000
Especially city stock in this as far as enacting their ordinances as to what they believe is appropriate and we don't impact them.

1781
03:20:41,000 --> 03:20:45,000
Certainly as to what they can or can't do.

1782
03:20:45,000 --> 03:20:55,000
So anyway just seems like that would be the the most fair approach to it in spite of as you mentioned on other issues, the.

1783
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:58,000
Financial for for a challenge.

1784
03:20:58,000 --> 03:21:05,000
And I and I know which challenge and and I know why, but the reality is from a strictly a representative standpoint.

1785
03:21:05,000 --> 03:21:08,000
I think the county residents should weigh in and we said that.

1786
03:21:08,000 --> 03:21:10,000
Supervisor Elliott.

1787
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:13,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1788
03:21:13,000 --> 03:21:20,000
One additional question on the the latter portion of your your briefing County Council.

1789
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:35,000
You listed the different departments and the cost that they would incur and so the 40% of those might be recoverable by fees and the rest of it would have to be recovered by taxes.

1790
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:43,000
My question is are these same costs also incurred if we keep our ban in place.

1791
03:21:43,000 --> 03:21:46,000
Or have we done a question to ask.

1792
03:21:46,000 --> 03:21:49,000
What are the costs if the ban remains.

1793
03:21:49,000 --> 03:21:58,000
We know that there there will be costs that will be imposed we in in our discussion of those we refer to those as the indirect costs.

1794
03:21:58,000 --> 03:22:08,000
I believe that there will be indirect costs that are imposed and I believe that it represents some portion of that $8 million list.

1795
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:21,000
From the enforcement of the of the illegal operations enforcement eradication investigation and prosecution the for instance the district attorneys number was 1.2 million.

1796
03:22:21,000 --> 03:22:34,000
I assume that some portion of that is for prosecution of illegal activity now I could be wrong.

1797
03:22:34,000 --> 03:22:41,000
Here she comes so she can she can answer that specifically about how that number is divided.

1798
03:22:41,000 --> 03:22:56,000
But but yes some portion of that $8 million I believe gets imposed on the county whether or not we have cannabis program.

1799
03:22:56,000 --> 03:22:59,000
Do you remind me phrasing that question for me.

1800
03:23:00,000 --> 03:23:15,000
Supervisor question was was whether or not some portion of that $8 million is imposed on the county even if we don't have the program and I pointed your example out as you had identified $1.2 million in costs.

1801
03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:25,000
And I was making the assumption that some part of that was for prosecution of illegal activity not just for the regulatory but that you would be able to answer that better.

1802
03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:30,000
Yeah it would definitely be the division between the regulatory and the criminal.

1803
03:23:30,000 --> 03:23:43,000
We already have a system in place through the Metro division that's a joint partnership of multi agencies with the county that attacks most of our criminal element we need to continually expand on that as well.

1804
03:23:43,000 --> 03:23:52,000
But this team would be tackling marijuana driven criminal activity and regulatory assisting code and environmental and organizations like that.

1805
03:23:52,000 --> 03:23:58,000
So it would be a hybrid agency if you will.

1806
03:23:58,000 --> 03:24:05,000
Okay so so then there would be some costs that we would that we would have.

1807
03:24:05,000 --> 03:24:10,000
Even if we kept the man in place but it would be smaller than the cost that if we.

1808
03:24:10,000 --> 03:24:14,000
The loud commercial can of the activity.

1809
03:24:14,000 --> 03:24:16,000
That affair.

1810
03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:18,000
Assessment.

1811
03:24:18,000 --> 03:24:24,000
I I generally I would say that that's probably a true statement yes.

1812
03:24:24,000 --> 03:24:38,000
The difference would be that if you don't have if you maintain the ban then you don't have a revenue source to address those indirect costs.

1813
03:24:38,000 --> 03:24:55,000
And so while it may be less than the eight million you don't you're you're tapping into the general fund the existing general fund in order to address that instead of having a secondary revenue source that can be applied to those indirect costs.

1814
03:24:55,000 --> 03:25:01,000
Okay and then I'm also not sure just to what degree.

1815
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:09,000
These costs represent cost that we're already paying anyway if some of these costs have to do with.

1816
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:20,000
Cost that are associated with enforcing our ban or cost that we incur because the ban is in place.

1817
03:25:20,000 --> 03:25:24,000
I think we're already paying a portion of those costs.

1818
03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:30,000
It's really hard to get a good assessment here of just what additional costs.

1819
03:25:30,000 --> 03:25:38,000
Would be incurred if we were to allow all of these commercial activities.

1820
03:25:38,000 --> 03:25:44,000
I believe that these members from the department represent what they think.

1821
03:25:44,000 --> 03:25:53,000
The cost imposed on the county will be to address an environment where you have regulated cannabis both addressing the illegal.

1822
03:25:53,000 --> 03:26:06,000
As well as the regulated side for instance I I'm guessing and represented is here from that ag commissioner but that in in the absence of the county.

1823
03:26:06,000 --> 03:26:17,000
Having a cannabis program should the county maintain it to ban the ag commissioner still going to see some impact because you have activity at least in the city of Stockton.

1824
03:26:17,000 --> 03:26:25,000
They're going to be involved in some measures so they're going to have some of those costs but that'll be they will have a fee component.

1825
03:26:25,000 --> 03:26:28,000
Where they will be able to capture.

1826
03:26:28,000 --> 03:26:36,000
Some of that alternatively and and I know that there's representative here from the sheriff's office.

1827
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:45,000
How they've broken out there 2 million whether that's applied to the regulatory side or to the illegal side.

1828
03:26:45,000 --> 03:26:51,000
They can answer that question better as well but the.

1829
03:26:51,000 --> 03:27:03,000
Certainly there is some cost that the county is already feeling or indirect cost of the county is already addressing the question is.

1830
03:27:03,000 --> 03:27:08,000
Presently that's being met from the general fund.

1831
03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:22,000
And if you have a licensed program and a tax that goes along with that then you can replace those general fund dollars.

1832
03:27:22,000 --> 03:27:25,000
With the cannabis tax dollars.

1833
03:27:25,000 --> 03:27:31,000
So you can address it to that level or if your or if it's or if these numbers are additive.

1834
03:27:31,000 --> 03:27:42,000
Then you're increasing the amount of enforcement that you have available above and beyond which what is presently contributed by the general fund.

1835
03:27:42,000 --> 03:27:50,000
Okay, I'd like to hear at least from a couple of representative departments here.

1836
03:27:50,000 --> 03:27:59,000
So so the question really is to what degree will cost be increased if we keep the ban in place.

1837
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:02,000
Good afternoon board, come on back, we assistant commissioner.

1838
03:28:02,000 --> 03:28:08,000
The numbers which are provided by the by the commissioners are based upon.

1839
03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:14,000
If there is any ordinance based on what activities will be required to do.

1840
03:28:14,000 --> 03:28:21,000
So it includes the staff which we have to hire just for cannabis enforcement.

1841
03:28:21,000 --> 03:28:29,000
We call cost ID cost those kind of an indirect cost, which is the administration cost.

1842
03:28:29,000 --> 03:28:44,000
If the ban stays in place, Commissioner is still required by law to have enforcement activities in city of Stockton, which can include any inspections of scales or any percent use enforcement.

1843
03:28:44,000 --> 03:28:48,000
So these numbers the 400 and.

1844
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:58,000
I believe the basic cost was around 430, but there was a one time cost for the vehicles, which was 50 2000 and some ID cost ID cost.

1845
03:28:58,000 --> 03:29:07,000
Those numbers are only if we do not have the ban and we go forward with a cannabis ordinance.

1846
03:29:07,000 --> 03:29:13,000
Okay, so the 483,400 dollars is the additional cost.

1847
03:29:13,000 --> 03:29:21,000
If we go ahead with enforcement of a program of allowing commercial cannabis activity that is correct.

1848
03:29:21,000 --> 03:29:30,000
Okay, and then we're all we're already paying costs, but those are already covered by our existing budget.

1849
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:39,000
Existing budgets covers some of the cost and based upon what the new regulations from California Department of Food and Ag brings.

1850
03:29:39,000 --> 03:29:42,000
We will have some peace structure in place.

1851
03:29:42,000 --> 03:29:53,000
So let's say for example for nursery inspections if we if there is an approved nursery within city of Stockton, we will be still required to have some enforcement over that nursery.

1852
03:29:53,000 --> 03:29:58,000
And that could be recovered through the fees which are in place at that time.

1853
03:29:58,000 --> 03:30:01,000
Okay, so we already have fees.

1854
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,280
The new regulatory package, which CDFA is working on, will have some fees built into it. But that

1855
03:30:09,280 --> 03:30:15,920
will not cover 100% of the cost in, you know, so let's say, for example, right now, if board says

1856
03:30:15,920 --> 03:30:26,960
there will be ban placed on the ordinance and CDFA move forward with the regulations and new businesses

1857
03:30:26,960 --> 03:30:36,800
are in place in the city limits, we will be still required to go out into inspections. Those of any of

1858
03:30:36,800 --> 03:30:42,880
the costs associated with those activities could be recovered through fees, through the fee structure,

1859
03:30:42,880 --> 03:30:49,360
which is going to be in place in those regulations, but it might not be 100%. So there will be some

1860
03:30:49,360 --> 03:30:56,960
general fund dollars, which will be spending. Okay, thank you. Before we leave,

1861
03:30:58,960 --> 03:31:09,440
we leave just a quick question. It's okay. I'm probably most familiar with the environmental health department

1862
03:31:09,440 --> 03:31:14,960
in regards to their cost for their cost recovery fees. In other words, if they go out and do

1863
03:31:14,960 --> 03:31:25,920
an inspection or things like that, they can bill the party for time, spend, etc. So you talk about

1864
03:31:25,920 --> 03:31:31,120
fees, which I'm assuming, if you're talking about the status by the state or you're talking about a set fee,

1865
03:31:31,120 --> 03:31:36,320
if you do a nursery inspection, there's there's X number of dollars that's allowed to be charged at

1866
03:31:36,320 --> 03:31:42,560
correct. That is correctly for any nursery inspections we do. There is a set number of dollars per acre

1867
03:31:42,640 --> 03:31:50,080
recharge. Okay. Is there any consideration or allowance to charge for time spent? Because some may be larger,

1868
03:31:50,080 --> 03:31:56,560
more complicated, and more violations that have to be documented, etc. So, you know, one, I don't know

1869
03:31:56,560 --> 03:32:01,680
with the yet, but this is say arbitrarily that one takes an hour, but another similar size nursery takes

1870
03:32:01,680 --> 03:32:08,000
three hours. It seemed like that your department would be able to recover the additional cost

1871
03:32:08,640 --> 03:32:14,880
for the employee who went out in the inspection. Is that allowed? Not based on the current

1872
03:32:14,880 --> 03:32:18,480
regulations now. Okay. All right. That's what I need to know. Thank you.

1873
03:32:20,880 --> 03:32:25,520
Okay. So where's the party? Pardon me. You kind of quick to leave the podium. Another question?

1874
03:32:27,520 --> 03:32:31,680
And I don't have the hot seeds so quick, you know. So, as a quick follow-up to Chairman Wins,

1875
03:32:32,240 --> 03:32:37,760
and you said not under the current regulatory fees. Is that set by the county or is that set by the state?

1876
03:32:38,400 --> 03:32:45,120
That's set by the state. We have our contracts with California Department of Food and Act

1877
03:32:45,120 --> 03:32:49,920
for all military inspections, and they have just strictly acres it's not paid by the hours.

1878
03:32:49,920 --> 03:32:56,800
It's set amount of dollars per acre recharge. Okay. And you did factor that into the estimation of

1879
03:32:56,800 --> 03:33:04,560
what you expenses you believe you're occurring? So, with the with the new cannabis regulations,

1880
03:33:04,560 --> 03:33:11,040
the fee structure we are looking at does not address that party yet. So we don't know what's going

1881
03:33:11,040 --> 03:33:19,120
to happen. We have looked at what would be the licensing fee for each nursery location because there

1882
03:33:19,120 --> 03:33:27,120
is a licensing fee for acreage and then there is an actual license fee. So we are not sure at this point

1883
03:33:27,120 --> 03:33:31,760
how many dollars will be coming down from the state to us? Now we don't have that in our calculations.

1884
03:33:32,400 --> 03:33:37,680
Okay. And would you department be exempt? If we kept a ban in place, it's talked about that the

1885
03:33:38,480 --> 03:33:49,200
revenue allocation from the taxes that the state collects with cannabis would be frozen out.

1886
03:33:50,320 --> 03:33:56,480
If a ban remained in place, would that affect your funding stream or did you indicate that that is not

1887
03:33:57,120 --> 03:34:05,760
there would be separate? Based on what we are looking at if if ban stays in place, it's not going

1888
03:34:05,760 --> 03:34:13,440
to impact anything which state is doing. So along with the we use the example of nursery licensing,

1889
03:34:13,440 --> 03:34:19,440
but let's look at pesticide use enforcement. So most of our money for pesticide use enforcement

1890
03:34:19,440 --> 03:34:25,600
comes out of the milk tax which is a amount of pesticide sold in the county and some other

1891
03:34:26,400 --> 03:34:33,120
factors. So that will not be impacted at all because it's independent of what happens within the county

1892
03:34:33,120 --> 03:34:40,640
borders. But if there is no ban, of course our activities are going to be increased. So let's say

1893
03:34:40,640 --> 03:34:47,440
for nursery license, we were recovering 50% of the cost and we were using other 50% out of the

1894
03:34:47,440 --> 03:34:52,400
general fund. If we have more nursery now, we are tapping more into general fund.

1895
03:34:54,400 --> 03:34:56,400
I hope I explained it.

1896
03:34:58,960 --> 03:35:05,440
Okay. Yeah, well I just, as we know, LA was talking to you. So I just jumped in real quick and now I'm all

1897
03:35:05,440 --> 03:35:12,000
up. So but I know the ad commissioner office goes out and does inspections based upon complaints,

1898
03:35:12,160 --> 03:35:19,120
violations, pesticide use, things like that. And I keep going back environmental health because

1899
03:35:19,120 --> 03:35:25,520
I know they do a lot of similar things regards to the environment and use for chemicals and things like that.

1900
03:35:25,520 --> 03:35:35,360
So if the, if your office goes out and does an investigation of alleged use of pesticides or some other,

1901
03:35:36,000 --> 03:35:44,400
hazardous material, do then do you get to charge for your investigating time through cost recovery?

1902
03:35:45,200 --> 03:35:53,520
No, supervisor when the time spent any time either is investigative work or inspection work for

1903
03:35:53,520 --> 03:35:59,200
pesticide use enforcement is paid through the time reported to California Department of pesticide

1904
03:35:59,200 --> 03:36:07,440
regulation and pays through male fees. It is not direct recovery now. So we report our hours

1905
03:36:07,440 --> 03:36:12,400
to the Department of pesticide regulation. They have part of money, which is based upon your activities in

1906
03:36:12,400 --> 03:36:18,000
the county. But it's not like specifically, they will tell you that if you spend this many hours,

1907
03:36:18,000 --> 03:36:23,600
you will get this many dollars. No, it's based on what kind of products are being used in the county

1908
03:36:23,600 --> 03:36:29,280
sales of products, any enforcement activities we do, population of the county,

1909
03:36:29,920 --> 03:36:36,800
use reporting, there's, there's set factors on which that funding is based. So usually in my

1910
03:36:37,520 --> 03:36:44,400
experience, we recover around 75 to 80% cost for pesticide use enforcement.

1911
03:36:45,440 --> 03:36:50,240
Okay, for your department. Let me ask a quick question, as far as

1912
03:36:51,200 --> 03:37:01,680
Carrafiren. So what if you got a complaint that that was being used on a crop of cannabis? What

1913
03:37:01,680 --> 03:37:05,840
would be the procedure would you turn that over environmental health or would you handle that with your

1914
03:37:05,840 --> 03:37:12,560
department? So if the complaints come to us, because it's a unregistered illegal use of a product,

1915
03:37:12,560 --> 03:37:19,200
there will be investigation and based on upon that there will be seizure of the product because that

1916
03:37:19,200 --> 03:37:26,080
product cannot be released into the marketplace. And we will issue violations and it's yet to be

1917
03:37:26,080 --> 03:37:32,080
seen that what kind of enforcement activities will take because if it was in normal agricultural areas,

1918
03:37:32,080 --> 03:37:37,680
we will take an enforcement action against the individual. Okay, and if you do take action,

1919
03:37:37,680 --> 03:37:44,080
I assume that does I go through district attorney's office? No, that is administrative hearing. So it stays

1920
03:37:44,080 --> 03:37:49,520
within the department. There is a hearing officer who's an outside party, we hire and it's an administrative

1921
03:37:49,520 --> 03:37:55,680
hearing in our office, which takes place and they can appeal to the state director based on the outcomes.

1922
03:37:56,240 --> 03:38:01,280
So if you're department finds with your violation and they can find the individuals that correct?

1923
03:38:02,560 --> 03:38:09,760
Okay, and that find many orders that go. It could be up to $5,000 per violation. And who's the

1924
03:38:09,760 --> 03:38:17,520
recipient of that $5,000? So in some respects, you would get at least a return on time spent for

1925
03:38:17,520 --> 03:38:24,240
your investigation, at least a portion of it I'm assuming. You can say that. All right, well I'm just

1926
03:38:24,240 --> 03:38:29,760
looking for any revenues that would be generated based upon your activities because I will guarantee

1927
03:38:29,760 --> 03:38:34,880
that they will increase no matter what this board does. That is correct. And we are more worried about

1928
03:38:34,880 --> 03:38:39,440
activities under California Department of Food and Egg versus DPR, which is Department of

1929
03:38:39,440 --> 03:38:46,080
Health Side Regulation because DPR has better funding sources for any pesticide use enforcement versus

1930
03:38:46,080 --> 03:38:53,280
California Department of Food and Egg who will be looking at trace and tracking and nursery inspections

1931
03:38:53,280 --> 03:38:59,440
and any other enforcement activities we have to do on that. And I'm not sure what kind of cost recovery

1932
03:38:59,760 --> 03:39:04,800
will have for that. Does your DPR employees have any kind of protective gear when they go out and do these

1933
03:39:04,800 --> 03:39:13,440
inspections? Not for regular inspections we do because they have set safety guidance that they are required to

1934
03:39:13,440 --> 03:39:21,520
use. They don't enter the area where the pesticide is already applied and if there is any investigative samples

1935
03:39:21,520 --> 03:39:28,160
we take we make sure that they are waiting until restricted entry interval which is called REI is expired.

1936
03:39:28,160 --> 03:39:35,120
So we don't like to expose our employees to any of those pesticides. Try to stay out.

1937
03:39:36,240 --> 03:39:42,880
Well again I'm sure you have policy procedures in place. My concern is that you know and I

1938
03:39:43,440 --> 03:39:50,800
actually got a list of various chemicals that have been determined in cannabis grows etc.

1939
03:39:50,800 --> 03:39:55,200
And in some some would argue that some of these chemicals would require

1940
03:39:56,160 --> 03:40:00,960
individuals just going into inspect or to retrieve a sample that they have protective gear.

1941
03:40:02,000 --> 03:40:07,280
And my concern is that again I'm not trying to change the policy today but at least I'd like to

1942
03:40:07,280 --> 03:40:13,440
find out where you are because I wouldn't want our employees going in thinking it's just a normal type

1943
03:40:13,440 --> 03:40:19,040
pesticide violation when in fact they are using some of these more dangerous or has materials

1944
03:40:19,040 --> 03:40:25,200
with environmental health I'm sure deal with. So this my question is regards to employee protection.

1945
03:40:26,000 --> 03:40:32,800
So supervisor Vin based on the discussions with other counties who already have cannabis program in place.

1946
03:40:32,800 --> 03:40:40,080
Yellow County is a prime example. We had discussions with them and they are making sure their employees

1947
03:40:40,080 --> 03:40:47,680
are fully equipped with personal protective equipment entering each location and they change every

1948
03:40:47,680 --> 03:40:54,320
timeline they go from grow to grow. So they are varying full-faced respirators, coveralls, gloves,

1949
03:40:54,880 --> 03:41:01,920
glass protective glasses. So they have to be equipped and we are kind of concerned. The reason is because

1950
03:41:01,920 --> 03:41:08,160
some of our employees in weeps and measures department. They are required to have a commercial license for

1951
03:41:08,160 --> 03:41:15,760
our weight truck. So what we have heard is that this product could be absorbed to skin. So if they are

1952
03:41:15,760 --> 03:41:23,200
in those locations and they have to be compliant with DMV regulations to stay drunk free there is a

1953
03:41:23,200 --> 03:41:29,280
concern there that if they go to those locations what kind of results will get. Okay well at least you're

1954
03:41:29,280 --> 03:41:34,720
on top of it. Thank you. Hey, supervisor Noah.

1955
03:41:34,720 --> 03:41:53,520
I'm just going to weigh in on the tax. I appreciate the very thoughtful report from county council's office

1956
03:41:53,520 --> 03:42:06,880
and I have been out this long enough to know that staff always does their job and advocates forcefully

1957
03:42:06,880 --> 03:42:17,040
for the maximum amount of flexibility and the maximum amount of control over any dollars coming in and

1958
03:42:17,040 --> 03:42:26,560
I understand that completely and I appreciate them doing a fine job of that. However, I do believe

1959
03:42:26,560 --> 03:42:35,760
that if we are going to go to the voters on tax, I think our resident should weigh in on what their priorities

1960
03:42:35,760 --> 03:42:46,320
are for the use of their tax dollars and I agree with much of the language that county council proposed

1961
03:42:46,320 --> 03:42:54,720
in terms of enforcement, criminal justice system, public health prevention, education, K through 12.

1962
03:42:54,720 --> 03:43:05,040
I agree with all those but before we can actually move forward with a special tax, it's a high hurdle

1963
03:43:05,040 --> 03:43:13,280
and although most of these cannabis taxes are passing with a very comfortable, very comfortable margin,

1964
03:43:13,280 --> 03:43:22,720
I would want to make sure that whatever language we're putting into our special tax reflects

1965
03:43:22,720 --> 03:43:31,360
the will of our residents in Samokin County and therefore would have the best possible chance of passage

1966
03:43:31,360 --> 03:43:40,480
because there is a cost involved with doing this. So I don't support a general tax. I do support

1967
03:43:40,560 --> 03:43:49,440
a special tax. I feel very strongly it is the most fair and transparent way to collect these fees

1968
03:43:50,480 --> 03:43:59,360
but I do I would like before this comes back to us and we have to prove any specifics and what I'm talking

1969
03:43:59,360 --> 03:44:05,840
about is just off the top of my head what I'd like to see in a special tax is that there's

1970
03:44:07,440 --> 03:44:14,640
a 10 year true up every 10 years of this tax and within those 10 year periods there would be a guaranteed

1971
03:44:14,640 --> 03:44:24,080
public a third of the money would be spent on enforcement, criminal justice system and that the other two thirds

1972
03:44:24,080 --> 03:44:31,520
would be divided between the education, children, services, public health and I lump those together

1973
03:44:31,520 --> 03:44:37,200
because I think there's actually a tremendous amount of what public health would be doing would actually

1974
03:44:37,200 --> 03:44:46,160
overlap with educational efforts. So it would give us the flexibility that especially in the early years

1975
03:44:46,160 --> 03:44:53,920
if we need more money for enforcement we could do that but then we would have to true it up over 10 years.

1976
03:44:53,920 --> 03:44:58,000
So by the end of 10 years we'd have an accounting our overs are advisory.

1977
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:06,720
Committee could come before the board and say, yes, we looked at how the money was spent, voters were told it

1978
03:45:06,720 --> 03:45:15,200
be spend on these categories, and yes, we're here to tell you that their tax dollars were indeed spent in these areas.

1979
03:45:15,200 --> 03:45:26,000
For me, that would give us the flexibility we need. However, that being said, I would defer to a poll of the residents of

1980
03:45:26,000 --> 03:45:37,000
the South American County, if there is a very high priority that I'm not thinking of as being appropriate for this kind of

1981
03:45:37,000 --> 03:45:45,000
tax, I believe really strongly that the taxes collected from this industry should be spent on mitigating the impacts of this industry,

1982
03:45:45,000 --> 03:45:51,000
as opposed to being spent on other things no matter how worthy they are, how important.

1983
03:45:51,000 --> 03:46:02,000
We talked about housing for affordable housing, homelessness efforts, but there's also a lot of other things that county budgets can be stressed over in the

1984
03:46:02,000 --> 03:46:10,000
future that perhaps would not be supported by the residents of our counties such as an unfunded pension liabilities,

1985
03:46:10,000 --> 03:46:21,000
or there's a whole host of things that impact our general fund that I think the voters might not want these tax dollars spent on.

1986
03:46:21,000 --> 03:46:32,000
So I'm very supportive of a special tax, I think it's the right way to go, but before we approve the specifics, I would very much like to.

1987
03:46:32,000 --> 03:46:50,000
I don't think it's very expensive, I would very much like to see the results of a poll of our residents cross all the, all the supervisor districts to see if we're missing any priorities that our residents might have.

1988
03:46:50,000 --> 03:47:00,000
Thank you Chairman, I should add a question for county council, when you were pretty up the breakdown of expenses,

1989
03:47:00,000 --> 03:47:08,000
was the anticipated expenses to scale of what the anticipated allowances would be.

1990
03:47:08,000 --> 03:47:23,000
In other words, if we if we doubled or tripled the number of grows and dispensary or you do the retail or where the allowances would those expenses proportionally go up as well.

1991
03:47:23,000 --> 03:47:32,000
I don't know that they go up proportionally using using the 10% number that we used.

1992
03:47:32,000 --> 03:47:50,000
It is not a large number, so if you increase those numbers say it instead of 13 cultivators, you increase it, double it to 26 cultivators, that does that mean that you necessarily have to double staff, I don't think so.

1993
03:47:50,000 --> 03:47:55,000
I think there's probably some efficiencies of scale that that go along with it.

1994
03:47:55,000 --> 03:48:11,000
However, if you go from 10% to 50% does your staff increase absolutely, but where it, how much it increases, I don't think that we can say right now because we don't have that full ordinance developed.

1995
03:48:11,000 --> 03:48:24,000
So everything is basically an estimation based on what we think the impact would be letting even if it weren't relevant and related to the exact number of what we are would be allowing it if we allow any number.

1996
03:48:24,000 --> 03:48:26,000
Yes, it is.

1997
03:48:26,000 --> 03:48:39,000
And to supervisor Elliott's point that, you know, these are going to be some expenses that were automatically occurring, but again we don't know it's just the estimate at this point.

1998
03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:41,000
That's great, okay.

1999
03:48:41,000 --> 03:48:42,000
Thank you.

2000
03:48:42,000 --> 03:48:52,000
My concern is we talked about revenues in the $4 million range that correct, plus fees on top of that.

2001
03:48:52,000 --> 03:49:02,000
Of $4 to $5 million, yes, so let's be generous to say five and a half million.

2002
03:49:02,000 --> 03:49:10,000
As provided by the different kind of departments and again, obviously these are just estimates.

2003
03:49:10,000 --> 03:49:19,000
But we're looking at a point three million, so already we're in the hole, as far as making county government.

2004
03:49:19,000 --> 03:49:26,000
Not subsidizing through the general fund, the activities of cannabis administration, enforcement, etc.

2005
03:49:26,000 --> 03:49:38,000
If that were the case, I guess my question is if we only authorize, you know, a third, and I'm assuming when you talk about a third of the money that would be generated.

2006
03:49:38,000 --> 03:49:40,000
We're going to go to enforcement.

2007
03:49:40,000 --> 03:49:49,000
I'm assuming we're talking about the departments that are listed here, is that who we're funding or for just the sheriff's office and district attorney.

2008
03:49:49,000 --> 03:49:58,000
Media development may be code enforcement, those types of things, or is it all the departments including healthcare services.

2009
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:00,000
I'm not.

2010
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:06,000
I don't feel like we have firm enough numbers on any of this in terms of.

2011
03:50:06,000 --> 03:50:16,000
I mean, we're talking about in terms of the revenue lowest amount moving forward, but on the expenses.

2012
03:50:16,000 --> 03:50:28,000
The departments were asked to give their worst case basis, so the numbers we're looking at are the most modest amount of revenue that could possibly be generated.

2013
03:50:28,000 --> 03:50:38,000
And the expenses, the highest amount of expenses that could possibly be generated, so I don't feel like this is.

2014
03:50:38,000 --> 03:50:43,000
Is firm enough in terms of what direction we're actually going to go.

2015
03:50:43,000 --> 03:50:49,000
And I think a lot of those questions will have to be answered through the or development of the ordinance itself.

2016
03:50:49,000 --> 03:50:55,000
Today we're just looking at the attacks.

2017
03:50:55,000 --> 03:50:57,000
I'm.

2018
03:50:57,000 --> 03:51:08,000
I feel and and I'm not wanting to put a percentage in today, as I said, I think we need to I think we need to pull our residents and we need to look at what.

2019
03:51:08,000 --> 03:51:17,000
What resources they feel what impacts should be mitigated from these tax dollars and then I think we need to.

2020
03:51:17,000 --> 03:51:22,000
Very carefully crunch these numbers and look at.

2021
03:51:22,000 --> 03:51:32,000
We need to do we need to how much business do we need to cover the least amount of costs because we heard.

2022
03:51:32,000 --> 03:51:34,000
Well, yes, we're going to have some costs.

2023
03:51:34,000 --> 03:51:37,000
Even if the ban stays in place.

2024
03:51:37,000 --> 03:51:44,000
We don't have that quantified. We don't know exactly what it's going to be if the band stays in place.

2025
03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:49,000
Nor were our departments asked so if we only.

2026
03:51:49,000 --> 03:51:53,000
License 10% or this amount.

2027
03:51:53,000 --> 03:51:58,000
What was your cost we then they weren't asked that they were asked.

2028
03:51:58,000 --> 03:52:02,000
Given regulating cannabis throughout the county.

2029
03:52:02,000 --> 03:52:08,000
What do you foresee could potentially be the added cost to your department.

2030
03:52:08,000 --> 03:52:13,000
We did we did ask it based on the assumptions of the 10% numbers.

2031
03:52:13,000 --> 03:52:17,000
We did ask them to develop their costs based on that 10% number.

2032
03:52:17,000 --> 03:52:19,000
We didn't ask them to develop it.

2033
03:52:19,000 --> 03:52:21,000
Worst case opened the gates.

2034
03:52:21,000 --> 03:52:29,000
What I meant by worst case was worst case not not having the fully developed regulations.

2035
03:52:29,000 --> 03:52:33,000
And so you know.

2036
03:52:33,000 --> 03:52:40,000
Not knowing are we are we talking about development agreements because there's a certain level of work that goes into development agreements.

2037
03:52:40,000 --> 03:52:42,000
Are we talking about use permits.

2038
03:52:42,000 --> 03:52:45,000
What's required to go through that.

2039
03:52:45,000 --> 03:52:48,000
What will be required in the licensing process.

2040
03:52:48,000 --> 03:52:51,000
What what applications will have to be in.

2041
03:52:51,000 --> 03:52:58,000
So so having a blank canvas on to some of those questions was the worst case scenario.

2042
03:52:58,000 --> 03:53:01,000
Assume the most expensive thing.

2043
03:53:01,000 --> 03:53:09,000
But the parameters of the numbers of permits were those that that I had laid out in the same ones we used to base the tax on.

2044
03:53:09,000 --> 03:53:21,000
So but again we we don't know what where the sweet spot is in terms of economies of scale in terms of increasing the revenue but not increasing the cost.

2045
03:53:21,000 --> 03:53:32,000
So I understand where you're getting at in the sense that just the county would eat up all the revenue and enforcement.

2046
03:53:32,000 --> 03:53:40,000
I honestly believe that if that's the case then then that's why we have a range.

2047
03:53:40,000 --> 03:53:56,000
In the tax is we then clearly can demonstrate a nexus that the tax has to be increased because we aren't recovering cause but I think that if we only dedicate all of the money to.

2048
03:53:56,000 --> 03:54:03,000
Downstream immediate impacts and none of this money is directed toward education and prevention.

2049
03:54:03,000 --> 03:54:16,000
We do the residents of this county a disservice and I I believe that moving to a special tax where a portion of that money is dedicated.

2050
03:54:16,000 --> 03:54:25,000
I think it's the right thing to do again I would like to hear from our residents but if it's not the pleasure of the board to do that.

2051
03:54:25,000 --> 03:54:40,000
I still feel very strongly that a percentage of of this revenues we dedicated to prevention we're never really going to make a difference on this and reduce the number of young people.

2052
03:54:40,000 --> 03:54:48,000
Experimenting and using this product we're never going to get our arms around under age use if we don't invest.

2053
03:54:48,000 --> 03:54:57,000
In education and prevention so I I do agree with we've heard from you know the offices of education superintendents of schools.

2054
03:54:57,000 --> 03:55:14,000
Whole host of child advocates and and I believe that that they're accurate and I do think we need to invest in that and if then it turns out we need more money for the other stuff for the enforcement the inspections and all that then I think that.

2055
03:55:14,000 --> 03:55:18,000
Well and that's as we'll have to be increased.

2056
03:55:18,000 --> 03:55:23,000
What are my concerns as you know when we started this discussion.

2057
03:55:23,000 --> 03:55:26,000
First it was all about the grants.

2058
03:55:26,000 --> 03:55:38,000
If we didn't if we didn't impose you know if we didn't obviously repeal our ban and you know embrace cannabis cultivation etc.

2059
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:42,000
We wouldn't get money from state that was that was the first argument.

2060
03:55:42,000 --> 03:55:47,000
And then we found that you know and if we didn't do it before January 1st we would be out.

2061
03:55:47,000 --> 03:55:51,000
In other words we'd be locked out forever well that's not the case so that was the first argument.

2062
03:55:51,000 --> 03:55:57,000
And the next argument was well you know we're going to occur a lot of costs.

2063
03:55:57,000 --> 03:56:03,000
So whether we in act an ordinance or not and by virtue of that.

2064
03:56:03,000 --> 03:56:07,000
We're going to need some money because we're going to spend other general fund.

2065
03:56:07,000 --> 03:56:14,000
And so we need to to allow all these things to happen so we can charge fees and tax and etc.

2066
03:56:14,000 --> 03:56:17,000
So that's going to offset the loss to some extent.

2067
03:56:17,000 --> 03:56:18,000
Okay I get that.

2068
03:56:18,000 --> 03:56:21,000
So that's that's the second part.

2069
03:56:21,000 --> 03:56:31,000
Now we're to stage where well that was fine but now we want to do a whole bunch of other things based upon the presentations made here.

2070
03:56:31,000 --> 03:56:33,000
Now I have nothing against these programs.

2071
03:56:33,000 --> 03:56:35,000
I busy programs they do a great job etc.

2072
03:56:35,000 --> 03:56:46,000
So if I would me, however if the purpose of going through this ordinance is to generate money and then redistribute that money and then

2073
03:56:46,000 --> 03:56:52,000
and then dip into our general fund to cover the the excess is that this ordinance is going to require.

2074
03:56:52,000 --> 03:57:00,000
I think we've got a long ways for where we started and that's my concern because obviously it's going to incur more cost no matter what we do.

2075
03:57:01,000 --> 03:57:09,000
And I would argue just from a standpoint because this board has been very judicious in regards to its revenues and expenditures.

2076
03:57:09,000 --> 03:57:19,000
And I guess you know we've done some good things as far as our contingency reserve as far as our paying down our our pension liability.

2077
03:57:19,000 --> 03:57:26,000
And you know and if the answer to we're not going to generate enough money based upon you know what our experiences which nobody knows.

2078
03:57:26,000 --> 03:57:37,000
We're just going to add more facilities and we just open the gates it just seems to me like this is an ever in in saga there's no there's no stopping we just continue to roll out more and more.

2079
03:57:37,000 --> 03:57:52,000
Based upon the needs which nobody knows and so we're all anticipating to to somehow read this tremendous windfall of revenue and I don't know if anybody else is read articles from.

2080
03:57:52,000 --> 03:57:56,000
from Colorado or Washington State et cetera, but.

2081
03:57:56,000 --> 03:58:05,000
That was all about the schools and and you read letter after letter and and the Denver Post et cetera and they're not getting any money so something's wrong with the system.

2082
03:58:05,000 --> 03:58:14,000
And when we go from we can't get any grant money to we need to cover our costs to now it's in nothing derogatory, but now it's all about the children.

2083
03:58:14,000 --> 03:58:26,000
And other programs et cetera I'm thinking you know we've lost our way this thing keeps moving down the road and I don't I don't see any end in sight my point is is that.

2084
03:58:26,000 --> 03:58:36,000
If if this ordinance and I and I understand we already talk about that we talk about the control which is the argument well if we control it then the elicis going to go away.

2085
03:58:36,000 --> 03:58:42,000
You can read article I I'm going to call a verse I was in a meeting in in in in.

2086
03:58:42,000 --> 03:58:50,000
Folsom on Friday with nine counties mountain counties and northern California counties every one of those counties going nuts.

2087
03:58:50,000 --> 03:58:56,000
Over the the explosion of marijuana and all the problems associated with I mean nuts.

2088
03:58:56,000 --> 03:59:03,000
And that that includes Calabers was 12 me and you and it goes all the way up there and some of them are actually going to file.

2089
03:59:03,000 --> 03:59:14,000
A state of emergency with the governor because they can't control what they have and and their small counties and you can only imagine what's going to happen here by point is is that.

2090
03:59:14,000 --> 03:59:25,000
Nobody knows I mean I don't predict the future but I got no from past experience was happening but nobody here in this county and all counties are different.

2091
03:59:25,000 --> 03:59:36,000
The idea what's going to happen yet we're already making plans well if that doesn't work we're going to expand it or amend it or revise it or whatever and my point is is that I think that we're moving too fast.

2092
03:59:36,000 --> 03:59:46,000
We keep changing the rules and and frankly if we're going to if if this board which they can do what they want obviously three votes.

2093
03:59:46,000 --> 04:00:00,000
If they move forward and and by virtue of that that we adopt the cannabis ordinance and we do a special tax and that passes fine I mean that that's the will the people however I think the priority of the.

2094
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:09,000
Before we spend one penny outside of what we generate revenue, it has to go for county operations first, including public health.

2095
04:00:09,000 --> 04:00:15,000
Because we talk about the mental and disabled, we talk about the homeless, we talk about a whole host of things.

2096
04:00:15,000 --> 04:00:22,000
And the programs that certainly surprised Miller you've done have been tremendous, regards to address and have to take it a problem.

2097
04:00:22,000 --> 04:00:28,000
But what's the solution every time we get together, we need more housing, or we need more shelter.

2098
04:00:28,000 --> 04:00:31,000
Or we need more of this, we need more of that, which costs money.

2099
04:00:31,000 --> 04:00:40,000
So my point is, and I'm not taking size or preferences, but I think first and foremost on a special tax, is that the county gets paid first.

2100
04:00:40,000 --> 04:00:44,000
If there's anything left over, you can give you depth, any percentage of what you want to go.

2101
04:00:44,000 --> 04:00:48,000
And I certainly agree with you on education, I think that can do a great thing.

2102
04:00:48,000 --> 04:00:55,000
Certainly child care and protection, obviously, is very important.

2103
04:00:55,000 --> 04:01:01,000
But I think the county comes first because we're the ones that if we don't pay it through that, we're paying it through the general fund.

2104
04:01:01,000 --> 04:01:06,000
If we're going to do that, let's just go through the general fund and pay out these programs directly.

2105
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:13,000
Rather than going through this gymnastics of getting the revenue, and then, you know, and only partially doing it, and then sending it this way.

2106
04:01:13,000 --> 04:01:18,000
It just seems to me, it's a challenge, and it never changes.

2107
04:01:18,000 --> 04:01:26,000
So that's my frustration is, is every time we meet, there's a new wrinkle, and we never settle on one thing.

2108
04:01:26,000 --> 04:01:30,000
Once it finds out that there's this kind of bump in the road, we go another direction.

2109
04:01:30,000 --> 04:01:37,000
So in my opinion, I think the board is just, is focusing, I'll be honest with you on money.

2110
04:01:37,000 --> 04:01:44,000
And I think any time you focus solely on money, and I now don't expect to get to the growers in here that I know there are some here.

2111
04:01:44,000 --> 04:01:53,000
But I think that's the wrong, the wrong motivation for what we do, and I think more importantly, we need to do it as a board.

2112
04:01:53,000 --> 04:02:00,000
And certainly, as supervisor, we need to look and see what our constituents want to see, as far as that.

2113
04:02:00,000 --> 04:02:05,000
But again, I think we're just kind of all over the map, and we're changing directions every time we meet.

2114
04:02:05,000 --> 04:02:10,000
So that's who you guys are all here.

2115
04:02:10,000 --> 04:02:21,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think we never did hear from one of the people who came up to ask my question about 30 minutes ago, which was, which had to do with what would the cost be,

2116
04:02:21,000 --> 04:02:24,000
Yeah, if we keep the bandit place.

2117
04:02:24,000 --> 04:02:33,000
But capital 100, some King County Sheriff's Office, yes, the, what we've put together was to create a team or enforcement of the regulation.

2118
04:02:33,000 --> 04:02:42,000
And that's what we anticipate, because we're, in doing that, so, and as we've seen, you need to create safety for the other collaborative people involved in this.

2119
04:02:42,000 --> 04:02:52,000
As they did in Colorado, they created a group that worked together with fire and all the other agencies to go out on these things, because there are safety issues, not just only chemical issues or other issues.

2120
04:02:52,000 --> 04:03:01,000
But also law enforcement issues, we're dealing with it. So we had had that group working as the plan of what we created for to work as the new enforcement of the regulation.

2121
04:03:01,000 --> 04:03:06,000
Will we still have to do the elicit grows, yes, we will. That's still going to continue.

2122
04:03:06,000 --> 04:03:09,000
Either way, the disc goes, we will still be forced to that.

2123
04:03:09,000 --> 04:03:15,000
Currently, we are forcing to receive some funding to domestic, countless eradication suppression programs.

2124
04:03:15,000 --> 04:03:21,000
Over the last three years, we're going back three, three budgets, we received $75,000.

2125
04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:26,000
That helped support some of the activities that the net share was reduced to $60,000.

2126
04:03:26,000 --> 04:03:29,000
It's in last year's budget, it was $30,000.

2127
04:03:29,000 --> 04:03:32,000
We have applied for it again. We do not know what will be coming.

2128
04:03:32,000 --> 04:03:38,000
There's a lot of stuff going on in federal government and how what funding we will receive, but we have applied for it.

2129
04:03:38,000 --> 04:03:42,000
We hope to get least 50 or $60,000 more. That's what we put in for.

2130
04:03:42,000 --> 04:03:48,000
And that is basically man hours for investigation conducting elicit matter one grows in the county.

2131
04:03:48,000 --> 04:03:54,000
So that's the plan. The share stops we put together trying to anticipate what it would cost us for the regulation.

2132
04:03:54,000 --> 04:03:58,000
Use safeguard the citizens community to safeguard the other employees in the county.

2133
04:03:58,000 --> 04:04:04,000
They're going out into these areas in search and conducting investigations and inspections.

2134
04:04:04,000 --> 04:04:10,000
Okay, so I take it from that, that this figure of $2 million that you have here.

2135
04:04:10,000 --> 04:04:16,000
That's if we come up with a new ordinance that allows commercial combat cannabis activity.

2136
04:04:16,000 --> 04:04:24,000
That's what the cost would be. And if we kept the ban in place, the costs, although there would be some, would be much smaller.

2137
04:04:24,000 --> 04:04:25,000
Yes.

2138
04:04:25,000 --> 04:04:26,000
Okay.

2139
04:04:26,000 --> 04:04:27,000
All right, yes.

2140
04:04:27,000 --> 04:04:29,000
All right. Okay. Thank you.

2141
04:04:29,000 --> 04:04:33,000
And I have to, I have to, I have to get some comments as well if I may continue.

2142
04:04:33,000 --> 04:04:34,000
Go ahead.

2143
04:04:34,000 --> 04:04:35,000
I'm sorry.

2144
04:04:35,000 --> 04:04:36,000
I'm sorry.

2145
04:04:36,000 --> 04:04:37,000
Questions?

2146
04:04:37,000 --> 04:04:38,000
I'm sorry.

2147
04:04:38,000 --> 04:04:39,000
Let go ahead.

2148
04:04:39,000 --> 04:04:41,000
Then I'll come in.

2149
04:04:41,000 --> 04:04:44,000
$2 million.

2150
04:04:44,000 --> 04:04:59,000
If you have 13 growers, you know, but if we backed up and looked at several weeks back when I made a proposal for county council to prepare an ordinance at a, you know, industrial location, self-contained, isolated.

2151
04:04:59,000 --> 04:05:09,000
How would you be spending $2 million regulating it, monitoring it and forcing, I just, you know, $2 million, incredibly large amount of money.

2152
04:05:09,000 --> 04:05:23,000
And that's, and that's a creation of, putting together a team with a supervisor that is strictly, and they're finding a area that they can work out of together in a group, providing the vehicles that they would need to do that.

2153
04:05:23,000 --> 04:05:28,000
The equipment necessary for that, and then working with the other with the other agencies.

2154
04:05:28,000 --> 04:05:32,000
Now, in the first part of the regulatory, we're anticipating the first part will be a lot.

2155
04:05:32,000 --> 04:05:35,000
It will be a lot busier, a lot more activity going on.

2156
04:05:35,000 --> 04:05:43,000
We're conducting more investigations as to the realities of this working with the other agencies that are involved in this.

2157
04:05:43,000 --> 04:05:49,000
As it breaks down down the year, if it now becomes less complex, then that can, that can also be in the news for us.

2158
04:05:49,000 --> 04:06:03,000
Because these are going to show, he lists itself will be picking up a list of investigations from those, as far as how, you know, if it's not transported to proper way or if it doesn't, maybe they're receiving product from the wrong area.

2159
04:06:03,000 --> 04:06:11,000
We're trying to anticipate this, as many costs it might come to, even though it's a regularly regulated grow, that their kids still be a list of stuff coming into it.

2160
04:06:11,000 --> 04:06:14,000
So they're going to be investigating that aspect of it too.

2161
04:06:14,000 --> 04:06:18,000
Was creating the supervisor in the five, five positions, what we're anticipating right now.

2162
04:06:18,000 --> 04:06:30,000
Now, if that, if that position is not needed as much, they will focus on and move with up with the unit that we already currently have to assist in all the illicit rows and investigations on those.

2163
04:06:30,000 --> 04:06:40,000
So within short order, if I'm understanding correctly, let's say, you know, respectful operators in a contained environment, then you take the same staff shifted to all the illicit activity.

2164
04:06:40,000 --> 04:06:56,000
For instance, you guys, you know, we put a, before the urgency order, then you know, 500 acres, which turned into a double homicide, and you know, you guys have got an incredible amount of expenditures on that illicit activity.

2165
04:06:56,000 --> 04:07:07,000
Yes, we do. And I'm, I'm planning we did a list of further boards saying we did go out and eradicate that grow. And that was a 500 acre plan that they had out there for the hemp grow.

2166
04:07:07,000 --> 04:07:18,000
They developed 26.7 acres. We eradicated that two weeks ago with that. We do have the man powers up, but we'll do a presentation to be questioning on that.

2167
04:07:18,000 --> 04:07:28,000
You know, November 7th, they're in the board meeting on that, but just roughly, we had over 1,000 man hours. We in public works, the sheriff's office and other people had assisted in that.

2168
04:07:28,000 --> 04:07:32,000
Just alone on that. So it was very extensive on that.

2169
04:07:32,000 --> 04:07:33,000
Right there.

2170
04:07:33,000 --> 04:07:37,000
And did that include the marijuana plants that were inside of the cornfield?

2171
04:07:37,000 --> 04:07:43,000
That did not. That was not eradicated at a whole separate deal. We can have prior to that.

2172
04:07:43,000 --> 04:07:49,000
And that's the one I'm referring to is a double homicide if we have to believe the newspaper.

2173
04:07:49,000 --> 04:07:55,000
So how many out of man hours were spent on that investigation and that eradication?

2174
04:07:55,000 --> 04:08:01,000
I don't have the exact figure on it, but I know I had nine agents out there and probably out there for seven hours.

2175
04:08:01,000 --> 04:08:07,000
Oh, multiply that. But then you had the other investigation going on. That is including investigative part for our investigation.

2176
04:08:07,000 --> 04:08:13,000
The homicide detectives that are investigating many, many hours and trying to get to the bottom of that whole situation.

2177
04:08:13,000 --> 04:08:17,000
Okay. Thank you. I just want to quick follow up on that.

2178
04:08:17,000 --> 04:08:18,000
I'm going to say.

2179
04:08:18,000 --> 04:08:23,000
Okay. Okay. So thank you very much. I'm just going to comment now.

2180
04:08:23,000 --> 04:08:25,000
All right.

2181
04:08:26,000 --> 04:08:32,000
But to me, just listening to the, the course of the conversations today.

2182
04:08:32,000 --> 04:08:44,000
It just doesn't make any sense to keep pursuing a tax on this assuming that we're going to allow commercial cannabis business and then we're going to tax it high enough.

2183
04:08:44,000 --> 04:08:54,000
So that we can not only recover our costs, but also have additional money left over to give to these other endeavors that all of them are certainly worthwhile and

2184
04:08:54,000 --> 04:08:57,000
that we have the money to do them.

2185
04:08:57,000 --> 04:09:06,000
But we also heard earlier today from someone who said, well, if you've got to keep your taxes low otherwise, you'll just encourage more illegal activity.

2186
04:09:06,000 --> 04:09:09,000
So then you defeat the purpose there.

2187
04:09:09,000 --> 04:09:13,000
So, so we've already, we've got somebody are going to keep the taxes low.

2188
04:09:13,000 --> 04:09:17,000
So that's going to limit the amount of revenue you take in.

2189
04:09:17,000 --> 04:09:29,000
On the other hand, we hear make the taxes high so that we can encourage payment of all of these additional taxes to allow us to spend this money on education for children, et cetera.

2190
04:09:29,000 --> 04:09:39,000
And then we also have the competing concepts here or basic principles, basically, as laid out by the county council,

2191
04:09:39,000 --> 04:09:50,000
saying that from the state level, they're operating from the basic principle that they are going to recover all the money that they need to pay all their costs first before they ever give anything to the local level.

2192
04:09:50,000 --> 04:10:00,000
Well, and then I just remind you of my comments that I heard from the one of the guys representing the state of Washington at that conference I went to earlier in the summer.

2193
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:09,000
Who said that in Washington anyway, only 2% of the money that the state takes in ever gets down to the local level.

2194
04:10:09,000 --> 04:10:13,000
So there's almost nothing that gets down to the local level from the state level.

2195
04:10:13,000 --> 04:10:23,000
If you extrapolate from that as to what would happen at the county level, well, if we're going to keep the taxes low enough so that people will pay them, then they're probably not going to be enough.

2196
04:10:23,000 --> 04:10:34,000
So that when we pay all of the costs that the county incurs, that there will be anything significant left over to pay for these other programs that people want to want to have to pay for all of the education and all of that.

2197
04:10:34,000 --> 04:10:41,000
And then we heard from all of the from more than one speaker talking about the.

2198
04:10:41,000 --> 04:10:49,000
The bad effects of marijuana on our youth.

2199
04:10:49,000 --> 04:10:56,000
We know that it affects the their their brain development the way they act.

2200
04:10:56,000 --> 04:11:02,000
It possibly affects people before they're even born we heard that today as well.

2201
04:11:02,000 --> 04:11:17,000
The school districts testified that we're already seeing an increase of marijuana use in the schools and and that it it increases difficulties for our youth there.

2202
04:11:17,000 --> 04:11:23,000
So all of these things just don't follow really logical course.

2203
04:11:23,000 --> 04:11:35,000
We also heard from these same groups that we're talking about well we want to take a certain percentage and and spend it for the youth we also heard from them basically.

2204
04:11:35,000 --> 04:11:46,000
Preface all of their statements by all of these bad things that happen to our youth if they use marijuana and then they said if we legalize commercial cannabis activities.

2205
04:11:46,000 --> 04:11:59,000
And we need to allocate a portion to education well that may be a good statement, but then when you look at what do we think is really going to be to allocate to this education.

2206
04:11:59,000 --> 04:12:07,000
We just don't seem to be creating a a logical progression of activities here.

2207
04:12:08,000 --> 04:12:19,000
Based on all of that and based on what supervisor Patty just mentioned I mean we had a youth killed just the other day in what was supposed to be a hemp field but we suspected probably wasn't.

2208
04:12:19,000 --> 04:12:23,000
And the reason he was killed was because he was out there trying to steal marijuana.

2209
04:12:23,000 --> 04:12:33,000
And legalizing that that hemp field or that marijuana field probably wouldn't have prevented him from going out there and trying to steal it.

2210
04:12:34,000 --> 04:12:42,000
So you know a lot of these arguments just don't don't pass the common sense test I think our best course of action remains.

2211
04:12:42,000 --> 04:12:52,000
Keeper van in place observe what happens in other counties then we can come back and revisit it after we've had a chance to study just what's going on elsewhere.

2212
04:12:52,000 --> 04:12:54,000
Let them be the test case.

2213
04:12:54,000 --> 04:13:02,000
And then we can take the best from their programs if there are any any good results and avoid the things that don't work.

2214
04:13:02,000 --> 04:13:10,000
My recommendation keep the band in place observe what happens and then we can come back and revisit it.

2215
04:13:10,000 --> 04:13:11,000
Thanks.

2216
04:13:11,000 --> 04:13:12,000
Have a band.

2217
04:13:12,000 --> 04:13:13,000
Yes.

2218
04:13:13,000 --> 04:13:14,000
Thank you.

2219
04:13:14,000 --> 04:13:20,000
I just want to respond real briefly to some of the comments that have been made here in terms of.

2220
04:13:20,000 --> 04:13:34,000
But somehow this conversation has changed over the past weeks and that we're talking about now wanting money for a lot of other programs that might be nice but maybe.

2221
04:13:34,000 --> 04:13:36,000
Our extras.

2222
04:13:36,000 --> 04:13:49,000
Actually the very first time and every time we have discussed this we have had representatives from throughout the county from community based organizations and from education.

2223
04:13:49,000 --> 04:13:53,000
And why who have been here and many of our own.

2224
04:13:53,000 --> 04:14:01,000
In fact, all of our own department heads who came in here and testified that because of our state.

2225
04:14:01,000 --> 04:14:06,000
Legalizing recreational use of cannabis.

2226
04:14:06,000 --> 04:14:15,000
We already were feeling significant impacts in this county and that those impacts were going to increase.

2227
04:14:15,000 --> 04:14:21,000
And there was from the very beginning of major focus on our kids.

2228
04:14:21,000 --> 04:14:27,000
And how do we mitigate the impacts of this new industry in our state?

2229
04:14:27,000 --> 04:14:32,000
Not because of what we've done here in San Joaquin County, we have had a band.

2230
04:14:32,000 --> 04:14:40,000
But what's happened statewide and everyone said that our district attorney spoke eloquently about the fact that.

2231
04:14:41,000 --> 04:14:47,000
We're already taking on a significant cost because of this and it's going to get worse.

2232
04:14:47,000 --> 04:14:55,000
The sheriff said that we're going to be additional impact almost every single department head in the whole county stood up here and said.

2233
04:14:55,000 --> 04:14:59,000
Whether you leave the banner you don't, there's going to be increased costs.

2234
04:14:59,000 --> 04:15:01,000
The main difference.

2235
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,080
There will be no additional revenue. We did not change the or mislead anyone in terms of feeling

2236
04:15:10,080 --> 04:15:19,320
pressure to have a decision made by the end of this year. Initially, the state did say, if you

2237
04:15:19,320 --> 04:15:25,920
did not have this worked out in your county by the end of the year, you were locked out. Now, the state

2238
04:15:25,920 --> 04:15:33,040
changed that. That wasn't any of us that changed that conversation. That was the state. And we have

2239
04:15:33,040 --> 04:15:38,280
also said from the very beginning, that we did not anticipate a huge amount of money coming from

2240
04:15:38,280 --> 04:15:46,920
the state. Every one of us said quite cynically that if the history was any indication, the state

2241
04:15:46,920 --> 04:15:54,120
would skim off as much as they possibly could, and there would be very little left for local jurisdictions

2242
04:15:54,120 --> 04:16:03,040
to deal with the impact of this industry. And that was why a majority of this board felt that

2243
04:16:03,040 --> 04:16:14,880
it was important to levy a local tax and to make every effort to capture through fees every possible

2244
04:16:14,960 --> 04:16:23,400
cost that our county would incur and to levy a tax that would be high enough to make up the

2245
04:16:23,400 --> 04:16:30,960
difference for the county and address all the impacts and try to mitigate as best we can. And one of

2246
04:16:30,960 --> 04:16:39,440
those mitigations was to take a look at our kids and to invest in the same kind of smart programming that the

2247
04:16:39,440 --> 04:16:46,160
tobacco tax invested in to for the benefit of our kids. So I don't feel like this conversation

2248
04:16:46,160 --> 04:16:52,640
has changed radically. On any given day, we have a little bit more information. We've had more

2249
04:16:52,640 --> 04:17:00,200
analysis from staff. We've had some different community members come up in front of us, but I don't

2250
04:17:00,200 --> 04:17:09,120
think it's radically different. And I share your concern with how are we going to do this. I don't

2251
04:17:09,120 --> 04:17:15,800
have all the answers. I don't think anybody does and I don't think any county does. But I don't think

2252
04:17:15,800 --> 04:17:23,640
we can simply pretend or say, well, we're going to not participate in what the rest of the state of

2253
04:17:23,640 --> 04:17:31,240
California is doing. I don't think that's in the best interest of our residents. And so from my

2254
04:17:31,240 --> 04:17:39,560
standpoint to be responsible, I think we do need a tax. I don't think it's going to be a general tax. I don't think I

2255
04:17:39,560 --> 04:17:47,720
agree with one of our speakers earlier. There's clearly not four votes on the board to move forward

2256
04:17:47,720 --> 04:17:55,400
with that. I personally think a special tax is best. I would like a little more certainty for the

2257
04:17:55,400 --> 04:18:05,400
voters. But if that is not the will of this board, then I also have faith that a citizen's advisory board

2258
04:18:06,440 --> 04:18:16,680
would be able to make strong recommendations based on the current environment that the county found

2259
04:18:16,680 --> 04:18:24,680
ourselves in any year to help us navigate through those percentages. My concern is to get the

2260
04:18:24,680 --> 04:18:33,960
special tax passed. I don't know, but I think it would be easier to pass for the voters to have a higher

2261
04:18:33,960 --> 04:18:40,440
level of certain de-esque where their tax dollars are going. But I think a poll would tell us that. So I don't

2262
04:18:40,440 --> 04:18:46,840
think we've had a radical shift in this conversation. I still think we're back to where we originally were.

2263
04:18:48,040 --> 04:18:54,600
Do we continue a ban and we just opt out and hope that everything that's going on around us doesn't

2264
04:18:54,600 --> 04:19:01,160
impact us and whatever impacts are there. We're going to have to pay for out of our own general fund in

2265
04:19:01,160 --> 04:19:09,880
out of our own resources or do we move forward with a strong enforceable ordinance to regulate this new

2266
04:19:09,880 --> 04:19:17,160
industry and do we impose a tax to provide resources for us to do that. I still believe that the

2267
04:19:18,360 --> 04:19:23,080
option number two is a better option for the residents in San Joaquin County.

2268
04:19:24,360 --> 04:19:29,000
Let me just make it pretty quick. You're absolutely correct to raise a bell or however, let me just give you

2269
04:19:29,000 --> 04:19:36,600
me from my perspective. Yes, there are presentations made when we first had our merit on session on

2270
04:19:36,600 --> 04:19:43,320
this particular issue and there were individuals who came forward to spoke about particular things. But the main focus was

2271
04:19:43,320 --> 04:19:48,600
whether or not we were going to be able to get grant funds. That was the premise of our discussion here amongst the board.

2272
04:19:49,960 --> 04:19:57,000
I also know that and obviously importantly, you've also had discussions with other groups, etc.

2273
04:19:57,000 --> 04:20:03,080
I know that this has been something that you've been very familiar with. I understand that I'm just talking

2274
04:20:03,080 --> 04:20:08,120
from my perspective in regards to the discussions that have taken place on this dias have been

2275
04:20:09,480 --> 04:20:15,800
from the grant issue to all the other issues we're progressing. So you're right from your perspective,

2276
04:20:15,800 --> 04:20:21,080
you're on target because you've been dealing with those from my perspective. I've been dealing with the other issues on this side.

2277
04:20:21,880 --> 04:20:28,200
Yes. Thank you so very much. I pardon the eruption. I just wanted to give you a little background too

2278
04:20:28,200 --> 04:20:33,400
from our perspective as a district attorney's office and it part ways into our partnership with

2279
04:20:33,400 --> 04:20:38,760
law enforcement. We don't really have the luxury of debating this issue because we start January 2nd with

2280
04:20:38,760 --> 04:20:45,160
the residential gross six, six gross per house. So for us, the commercial side of it to be honest is

2281
04:20:45,160 --> 04:20:49,880
as supervisor Patty was pointing out is a little bit easier because I can just walk into a commercial

2282
04:20:49,960 --> 04:20:55,160
not just walking, but I can go into a commercial looking for environmental, looking for any

2283
04:20:55,160 --> 04:20:59,400
other code enforcement or criminal behavior. But for me to get into a residence it's a fourth amendment

2284
04:20:59,400 --> 04:21:03,720
issue protected by the great constitution of the United States of America, which requires a search warrant

2285
04:21:03,720 --> 04:21:09,640
problem across the deal. So that investigation into the residents would cost me, I would estimate three

2286
04:21:09,640 --> 04:21:14,040
to four times would it will take me to cost the investigator commercial. So when you think about the

2287
04:21:14,120 --> 04:21:19,640
totality of the residents in this community, we have 730,000 people. I'm not sure how many homes

2288
04:21:19,640 --> 04:21:26,200
we have, but say we have 100,000 residents, maybe 200,000 residents. Each one of those houses potentially

2289
04:21:26,200 --> 04:21:31,960
could grow more than six plants which require criminal investigation, a code investigation, a civil

2290
04:21:31,960 --> 04:21:38,840
investigation, civil remedies, nuisance neighbor, mulling wick-cell motion, and the criminal prosecution.

2291
04:21:38,840 --> 04:21:43,720
So it's going to be one of the most expensive tracks and that's not on the table because it's

2292
04:21:43,720 --> 04:21:51,320
automatically occurs. We can't ban that. And so that occurs. So we're already in it. We're already

2293
04:21:51,320 --> 04:21:55,000
only in it and we don't have any choice because that's what the, you know, that's the long we have to

2294
04:21:55,000 --> 04:21:59,400
enforce it and that's what the people wanted. So when you're looking at the totality of the cost,

2295
04:21:59,400 --> 04:22:04,040
we're still going to have those, some of those costs, not all of them, but some that we proposed

2296
04:22:04,040 --> 04:22:08,600
with if you kept the ban in place because I still have to have the tools and the resources

2297
04:22:08,600 --> 04:22:14,120
there's surveillance, the intelligence gathering, the evidence-based information in order for me to

2298
04:22:14,120 --> 04:22:17,880
get into that resonance with the search warrant and Charmin, you know that better than anybody you've

2299
04:22:17,880 --> 04:22:24,120
done a million search warns. What the level is, that's the more expensive investigation. The looking

2300
04:22:24,120 --> 04:22:28,920
to legal operators to see if they're with encode isn't that expensive because we'll be able to

2301
04:22:28,920 --> 04:22:33,880
detect that pretty quick. I'm not saying there's not cost, but it's not as labor intensive as getting

2302
04:22:33,880 --> 04:22:40,280
into the residents. So we start January 2nd whether or not we have a ban or not. The other thing

2303
04:22:40,280 --> 04:22:46,200
I wanted to point out is we lose about two to three people each year. Unfortunately to homicides related

2304
04:22:46,200 --> 04:22:52,280
to cannabis, the illegal growth cannabis. That's with the ban in place. So you could argue to the

2305
04:22:52,280 --> 04:22:57,400
contrary, we don't know what will happen when the ban, if the ban is lifted, we don't know what will happen,

2306
04:22:57,400 --> 04:23:02,840
but we know that each year we lose one to three people on a homicide related driven on the pursuit

2307
04:23:02,920 --> 04:23:09,240
of illegal cannabis or stealing the cannabis. So we know that it too has consequences by having the

2308
04:23:09,240 --> 04:23:14,440
ban in place. So I just wanted to point that out because I think there's a couple different tracks here

2309
04:23:14,440 --> 04:23:19,400
that people need to understand. The heavy cost, the heavy lifting is in this residential

2310
04:23:20,280 --> 04:23:26,440
and the commercial, it'll be costly, but it won't even compare if people really take this six plant and run

2311
04:23:26,440 --> 04:23:32,520
with it and start doing 36, 166 and so forth. And that contaminates neighborhoods, contaminates

2312
04:23:32,520 --> 04:23:40,120
our water, our soil, our air, that activates code, environmental, public health, BA, Sheriff, all of us,

2313
04:23:40,120 --> 04:23:43,880
we'll have to work collaboratively to look at remedies whether it be administratively,

2314
04:23:43,880 --> 04:23:51,080
severely, criminally, or all of the above. Thank you. Just for clarification,

2315
04:23:51,080 --> 04:23:57,080
I don't think the board, at least I'm not saying that we expect the dis-turners office to

2316
04:23:57,080 --> 04:24:01,960
do search residents. I understand there's going to be, there's going to be abuses, there's going to be

2317
04:24:01,960 --> 04:24:09,160
violations, there's going to be, I mean, I just read a letter last week and this is, this is parallel to a letter

2318
04:24:09,160 --> 04:24:15,320
I read in Colorado and Denver. Where students are coming to school, this is from a teacher in

2319
04:24:15,400 --> 04:24:20,200
Calvers County, where students are coming to school and they wreak of marijuana in their clothes

2320
04:24:20,760 --> 04:24:28,520
and the school buys them new clothes so they can at least go through the day without being ostracized or

2321
04:24:28,520 --> 04:24:35,000
berated by their fellow students. So I think there's, there's obviously maybe indicators and

2322
04:24:35,000 --> 04:24:39,800
and I know you've been a prosecutor for a number of years and you know not only the search warrant

2323
04:24:39,800 --> 04:24:45,400
criteria but certainly what's worth prosecuting, et cetera. My concern is from the things I've seen

2324
04:24:45,400 --> 04:24:51,080
and I haven't even talked environmental hell yet, but the problem is is it, you know, these are

2325
04:24:51,080 --> 04:24:58,040
lists of gross and unfortunately from what I've read around the country and even in California is once

2326
04:24:59,640 --> 04:25:04,680
Calvers County, I'll take that as an example. Once they adopted an ordinance to allow

2327
04:25:04,840 --> 04:25:11,880
growing within the county itself, the illegal gross grew exponentially. I mean, it didn't go down

2328
04:25:11,880 --> 04:25:17,720
the argument as well if you make it controlled and they go away, not true. As long as you can buy a legal

2329
04:25:17,720 --> 04:25:24,200
cannabis at a substantially less cost than you can from a regulated facility, it's going to happen and in my

2330
04:25:24,200 --> 04:25:33,000
concern and I, I am just just concerned about your staff is anybody else and I hope that as I know you do

2331
04:25:33,480 --> 04:25:39,080
that you will probably prioritize those cases as always and use the limited resource you have to have

2332
04:25:39,080 --> 04:25:44,920
the biggest impact on this issue or other issues whether it be involving a homicide or otherwise.

2333
04:25:44,920 --> 04:25:52,360
And I know, I know it kept on 100 as just as committed to make sure that this county is safe. So it's not that

2334
04:25:53,400 --> 04:25:59,880
I'm opposed to what you're doing. I congratulate you especially recently in some of the success you've had. I understand

2335
04:25:59,880 --> 04:26:08,520
the hours it takes to develop a case, I get that. However, I'm hoping that the collaboratively with

2336
04:26:08,520 --> 04:26:16,600
our county departments, we can put together some semblance of an eradication team in addition to

2337
04:26:16,600 --> 04:26:24,040
Sheriff's Department to make, if nothing else and I know this is a mountain to climb is to make it known that

2338
04:26:24,920 --> 04:26:30,920
Sanwiching County is not the one county you want to grow in illegally because there's so many other places that that are

2339
04:26:30,920 --> 04:26:38,760
understaffed and overwhelmed and so why come here because we're willing to commit both the Sheriff, the Attorney's Office,

2340
04:26:38,760 --> 04:26:45,640
Environmental Health, whatever to commit whatever we do. So again, I just want to thank you for what you've been doing.

2341
04:26:45,640 --> 04:26:52,520
I think you've been doing a great job and I look forward on January 2nd to you continue to do just as good a job.

2342
04:26:53,240 --> 04:27:01,480
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman. First, I like to acknowledge every single person from

2343
04:27:01,480 --> 04:27:09,560
Supervisor Elliott and Chairman, you know, Supervisor Poole on Supervisor Miller. You know, we all have, you know,

2344
04:27:09,560 --> 04:27:15,720
a valid points, incredible concerns and we're looking at this and we're really back to day one where we're

2345
04:27:15,720 --> 04:27:22,040
debating the merits of going forward or not with allowing something. And that is the absolute truth of

2346
04:27:22,440 --> 04:27:28,920
it. We haven't changed. We still have a ban in place. We have not lifted that ban and and what that

2347
04:27:28,920 --> 04:27:35,320
ordinance looks like will is yet to be determined and I will, you know, reaffirm that the entire

2348
04:27:36,920 --> 04:27:43,160
premise that I proposed was to go forward in a controlled secure environment. The Gintland,

2349
04:27:43,160 --> 04:27:49,560
the Gini gets out of the bottle such as in Calavera where you have literally hundreds or in humble where

2350
04:27:49,560 --> 04:27:58,680
you have thousands of growers. It's difficult to try to regulate, contain, monitor, and see what

2351
04:27:58,680 --> 04:28:04,520
who's doing good practices are bad practices, especially if you're illegal. That's why, you know,

2352
04:28:04,520 --> 04:28:10,840
if we go forward as an ordinance, it is going to be done in that controlled secure environment or

2353
04:28:10,840 --> 04:28:16,840
I'm not going to become full with it either. I'm not willing to open up for hundreds of growers in

2354
04:28:16,840 --> 04:28:23,080
San Joaquin County. So, you know, I wanted to set the table with that because, you know, the entire

2355
04:28:23,080 --> 04:28:30,360
idea that I proposed was secure environment contained and, and, you know, from there, if we can generate

2356
04:28:30,360 --> 04:28:36,520
some revenue to offset certainly the expenditures that are going to be coming in and imposed on us,

2357
04:28:36,520 --> 04:28:43,160
if we can take in some revenue and have a program on messaging to youth, if we can impose a 25 year

2358
04:28:43,160 --> 04:28:48,840
age minimum, which we now know the science would, it has determined that's when the brain is fully

2359
04:28:48,840 --> 04:28:56,120
developed, less risk of addiction, less, and it mitigates the brain damages that happens if you're an

2360
04:28:56,120 --> 04:29:01,400
adolescent using marijuana. So, all of the risks, you know, there are very, I don't know that there

2361
04:29:01,400 --> 04:29:09,080
are any rewards in, in, in, in, in having an ordinance that allows a medicinal marijuana, but what it

2362
04:29:09,080 --> 04:29:16,760
does allows us to do is set the table to be present, to discuss, to message, to have a community

2363
04:29:16,760 --> 04:29:24,520
impact, to help offset what is here. It is here, flat out. Marijuana is available to every seventh

2364
04:29:24,520 --> 04:29:30,120
greater than once every high school senior has been exposed to it, been around it, and they're told by

2365
04:29:30,120 --> 04:29:35,880
their drug dealer how natural it is, how the Indians used to do it, how it's, you know, it's legal everywhere,

2366
04:29:35,880 --> 04:29:43,560
and we need to be, we need to be engaged in the process of messaging and creating the,

2367
04:29:44,840 --> 04:29:52,040
I think the structure that we would allow it in our county. So, you know, I appreciate everybody's

2368
04:29:52,040 --> 04:29:59,880
voice voice in, in the opinion on this, and we are divided board. No doubt we're not speaking in complete.

2369
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:12,000
You inform about the issue, but what that ordinance looks like we don't know. I know today we're talking about a tax, which I guess we need to get back to that conversation.

2370
04:30:12,000 --> 04:30:19,000
Have a motion on that tax and then we'll proceed and decide on November 7th what this all shapes up to look like.

2371
04:30:19,000 --> 04:30:27,000
But we have not automatically lifted an ordinance. We don't even have an ordinance to consider that I would approve or anybody else.

2372
04:30:27,000 --> 04:30:36,000
So I just want to take us back as temperature and put into perspective that I just like you have the same concerns.

2373
04:30:36,000 --> 04:30:43,000
We all are deeply rooted and involved in our communities and represent our districts.

2374
04:30:43,000 --> 04:30:54,000
And whatever we do is going to be done with careful consideration in light of the fact that there is risk and exposure existing and unfolding daily.

2375
04:30:54,000 --> 04:31:02,000
And what we can do and how we do it may differ. But ultimately, let's see what the ordinance looks like if we're going to get behind an ordinance.

2376
04:31:02,000 --> 04:31:09,000
But in the meantime, I guess we need to go forward at some point with this tax discussion.

2377
04:31:09,000 --> 04:31:11,000
Yes, yes.

2378
04:31:11,000 --> 04:31:14,000
Say something in regard to the county budget.

2379
04:31:14,000 --> 04:31:23,000
I really encourage this board to go cautiously forward, relative to not recovering, essentially taking the advice of council.

2380
04:31:23,000 --> 04:31:30,000
And not at least recovering, not necessarily taking the general tax, if that's what the board doesn't choose to do.

2381
04:31:30,000 --> 04:31:41,000
But not recovering the county's costs first and foremost because this is a tax property tax is what covers our law enforcement, our DA, our sheriff's department.

2382
04:31:41,000 --> 04:31:46,000
That's not growing. It grew this current year to the tune of a little over six percent.

2383
04:31:46,000 --> 04:31:57,000
That is not going to recover the costs, not considering the cost allocated as a result of not opening the floodgates, but doing it in a very cautiously manner.

2384
04:31:57,000 --> 04:32:03,000
The introduction of cannabis to our unincorporated area and not recovering the county's costs.

2385
04:32:03,000 --> 04:32:08,000
I really think that that will have a detrimental impact to our county budget.

2386
04:32:08,000 --> 04:32:13,000
And I believe we will experience those impacts immediately.

2387
04:32:14,000 --> 04:32:15,000
Thank you.

2388
04:32:15,000 --> 04:32:17,000
Vice Chairman Delapuba.

2389
04:32:17,000 --> 04:32:19,000
Thank you, Chairman.

2390
04:32:19,000 --> 04:32:20,000
Chairman.

2391
04:32:20,000 --> 04:32:24,000
This is going to say, I understand where everyone's coming from or my fellow board members.

2392
04:32:24,000 --> 04:32:26,000
I agree with all the good points.

2393
04:32:26,000 --> 04:32:31,000
But what I'm, you know, it's like, too, rather patty just said, it's here.

2394
04:32:31,000 --> 04:32:33,000
It's not going anywhere.

2395
04:32:33,000 --> 04:32:35,000
And what I want to do is control it and regulate it.

2396
04:32:35,000 --> 04:32:37,000
And I want our county to do that.

2397
04:32:37,000 --> 04:32:42,000
If we were to sit back and keep the, you know, keep keep marijuana out of the county.

2398
04:32:42,000 --> 04:32:43,000
It's still going to happen.

2399
04:32:43,000 --> 04:32:45,000
Cities have it.

2400
04:32:45,000 --> 04:32:48,000
In January, second, everyone's going to have six plants.

2401
04:32:48,000 --> 04:32:50,000
All right, kids are going to be able to access to it.

2402
04:32:50,000 --> 04:32:53,000
We have to get our hands around right now and get a control of it.

2403
04:32:53,000 --> 04:32:55,000
We have to legalize it, control it.

2404
04:32:55,000 --> 04:33:00,000
As far as general fund dollars, though, I think we should, you know, right now is just an

2405
04:33:00,000 --> 04:33:01,000
industrial zone.

2406
04:33:01,000 --> 04:33:03,000
We're not probably collecting the revenue for it.

2407
04:33:03,000 --> 04:33:07,000
We might, we probably need to make it green houses in the eggs zone, because I can work

2408
04:33:07,000 --> 04:33:08,000
tax revenue.

2409
04:33:08,000 --> 04:33:10,000
It's, there's no right answer.

2410
04:33:10,000 --> 04:33:11,000
You know, we all want to do the right thing.

2411
04:33:11,000 --> 04:33:12,000
But I think, I agree.

2412
04:33:12,000 --> 04:33:14,000
I think it's a bit similar.

2413
04:33:14,000 --> 04:33:19,000
We do special tax often two things like the best option for our county.

2414
04:33:19,000 --> 04:33:22,000
That's, you know, everybody's spoken real well about it.

2415
04:33:22,000 --> 04:33:23,000
And I support everyone.

2416
04:33:23,000 --> 04:33:27,000
But I think the special tax and often two is best for the county.

2417
04:33:27,000 --> 04:33:30,000
Give us a lit.

2418
04:33:30,000 --> 04:33:34,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2419
04:33:34,000 --> 04:33:38,000
Okay, just a couple of points here.

2420
04:33:38,000 --> 04:33:47,000
Based on some recent comments, there was a comment to the fact that somehow we are going

2421
04:33:47,000 --> 04:33:50,000
counter to the will of the rest of the state.

2422
04:33:50,000 --> 04:33:53,000
And that is just simply not true.

2423
04:33:53,000 --> 04:34:01,000
Not every county in the state is moving forward full speed ahead or even cautiously with implementing

2424
04:34:01,000 --> 04:34:06,000
authorization of legalized commercial cannabis activity.

2425
04:34:06,000 --> 04:34:11,000
There are some states who are continuing to, or some counties who are continuing to ban it.

2426
04:34:11,000 --> 04:34:14,000
I propose that we be one of those.

2427
04:34:14,000 --> 04:34:20,000
So we are not alone in that process if we continue to do that.

2428
04:34:20,000 --> 04:34:24,000
And we're talking about what's going to be best for our children.

2429
04:34:24,000 --> 04:34:31,000
And we're saying that we need to legalize it, control it and tax it and use that money to educate our children.

2430
04:34:31,000 --> 04:34:44,000
Why don't we just avoid those problems from the get go and do our best to educate our children not to engage in it and not provide the environment,

2431
04:34:44,000 --> 04:34:48,000
which makes it that much easier for them to come and contact with it.

2432
04:34:48,000 --> 04:34:51,000
Of course, it's going to be there. It's here now. It already is.

2433
04:34:51,000 --> 04:34:57,000
We all know all those things. That doesn't mean that we're going to be better off, or that our kids are going to be better off,

2434
04:34:57,000 --> 04:35:00,000
or that our farmers are going to be better off.

2435
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:07,000
If somehow we make it legal to have commercial cannabis activity.

2436
04:35:07,000 --> 04:35:17,000
And in terms of looking at our budget and protecting our balanced budget, of course, we need to make sure we have a balanced budget.

2437
04:35:17,000 --> 04:35:25,000
But again, I don't think the best way to do that is to go full speed ahead with, with opening the flood gates for cannabis activity.

2438
04:35:25,000 --> 04:35:28,000
And then trying to recover it from there.

2439
04:35:28,000 --> 04:35:35,000
I think we're better off just to keep our van in place observe as the, I've tried to make that point several times.

2440
04:35:35,000 --> 04:35:37,000
They observe what's going on in other counties.

2441
04:35:37,000 --> 04:35:43,000
And then we can make our decision based on what has worked best in other places.

2442
04:35:43,000 --> 04:35:52,000
Whether the ban that we have on commercial activity outside the cities is going to be the best course of action or not.

2443
04:35:52,000 --> 04:35:55,000
We'll know better in a couple of years.

2444
04:35:55,000 --> 04:35:57,000
So why don't we just watch?

2445
04:35:57,000 --> 04:35:59,000
We don't have to hurry into this thing.

2446
04:35:59,000 --> 04:36:09,000
And meanwhile, I think our kids will be better off if we, if we attempt to do our best to educate them to the dangers of marijuana.

2447
04:36:09,000 --> 04:36:12,000
Without making it easier for them to obtain it.

2448
04:36:13,000 --> 04:36:18,000
I think we should watch deeper ban in place revisit it in a couple of years.

2449
04:36:18,000 --> 04:36:19,000
Thank you.

2450
04:36:19,000 --> 04:36:20,000
It was more.

2451
04:36:20,000 --> 04:36:21,000
Thank you.

2452
04:36:21,000 --> 04:36:24,000
I'd like to make a motion that.

2453
04:36:24,000 --> 04:36:28,000
Counting staff prepares.

2454
04:36:28,000 --> 04:36:33,000
A special tax.

2455
04:36:33,000 --> 04:36:37,000
And the language as it's been presented here today.

2456
04:36:37,000 --> 04:36:41,000
Before it comes back to us on November 7th.

2457
04:36:41,000 --> 04:36:43,000
To introduce in way that.

2458
04:36:43,000 --> 04:36:49,000
That in the meantime we get some input from.

2459
04:36:49,000 --> 04:36:53,000
A specialist in sales tax measures.

2460
04:36:53,000 --> 04:36:56,000
And perhaps do a county polls so that.

2461
04:36:56,000 --> 04:37:00,000
Council can come back to us on the seventh.

2462
04:37:00,000 --> 04:37:05,000
And let us know if if this language that was presented today is the best.

2463
04:37:05,000 --> 04:37:09,000
Language for us with the highest chance of passage.

2464
04:37:09,000 --> 04:37:11,000
So I would.

2465
04:37:11,000 --> 04:37:16,000
Make that motion that staff come back on November 7th at 9 a.m.

2466
04:37:16,000 --> 04:37:20,000
As a date in time to wave reading of a special tax.

2467
04:37:20,000 --> 04:37:24,000
Which would then be adopted on November 14th.

2468
04:37:24,000 --> 04:37:26,000
Well second that motion.

2469
04:37:26,000 --> 04:37:27,000
Just quick question.

2470
04:37:27,000 --> 04:37:29,000
We need to talk about a poll.

2471
04:37:29,000 --> 04:37:34,000
What's specifically are you are you looking for as far as is input.

2472
04:37:34,000 --> 04:37:38,000
I would whatever input and.

2473
04:37:38,000 --> 04:37:45,000
A specialist on a sales tax and a pollster can help can work with county council to craft questions.

2474
04:37:45,000 --> 04:37:49,000
If if this kind of general language will pass.

2475
04:37:49,000 --> 04:37:54,000
And it's recommended to us that this would be the best special tax to go forward with.

2476
04:37:54,000 --> 04:37:57,000
I just like that backed up with.

2477
04:37:57,000 --> 04:37:59,000
A county why to our residents.

2478
04:37:59,000 --> 04:38:03,000
If if they would support this kind of language.

2479
04:38:03,000 --> 04:38:10,000
I want that but if if the residents say no we want it you know with a certain percentage for different things.

2480
04:38:10,000 --> 04:38:14,000
I think we should know that before we go forward in terms of.

2481
04:38:14,000 --> 04:38:21,000
Because when we wave the reading it has to be specific enough that that's what's going to go on the ballot.

2482
04:38:21,000 --> 04:38:27,000
So I'd like to just delay that to the seventh so that council can say to us.

2483
04:38:27,000 --> 04:38:34,000
We've done completely done our due diligence on a special tax very specifically on a special tax.

2484
04:38:34,000 --> 04:38:35,000
This is our recommendation.

2485
04:38:35,000 --> 04:38:41,000
Scott the best chance of passing and we think this is the best thing for for the county.

2486
04:38:41,000 --> 04:38:43,000
I think for for probably.

2487
04:38:43,000 --> 04:38:46,000
Clara the yes the outcome.

2488
04:38:46,000 --> 04:38:50,000
It would be beneficial to have one of the choices opposed.

2489
04:38:50,000 --> 04:38:51,000
Tax.

2490
04:38:51,000 --> 04:38:55,000
If you want to really know how many would actually support it if you talking about.

2491
04:38:55,000 --> 04:38:58,000
It percentage or whatever whatever it would be.

2492
04:38:58,000 --> 04:39:01,000
That would automatically be because that will be the first.

2493
04:39:01,000 --> 04:39:04,000
That'll be the question that goes on the ballot shall.

2494
04:39:04,000 --> 04:39:08,000
The county of San Joaquin impose a caps on or cannabis.

2495
04:39:08,000 --> 04:39:09,000
blah blah blah.

2496
04:39:09,000 --> 04:39:10,000
So yes.

2497
04:39:10,000 --> 04:39:15,000
And then it would again if you would support it would just supported if it was written like this.

2498
04:39:15,000 --> 04:39:18,000
Would you support it would be more likely less likely.

2499
04:39:18,000 --> 04:39:22,000
You know to support it if this language was in they have.

2500
04:39:22,000 --> 04:39:26,000
They're ways of digging in and teasing out.

2501
04:39:26,000 --> 04:39:30,000
You know would people support it and if so.

2502
04:39:30,000 --> 04:39:35,000
What specifically would they support I would I would feel better putting.

2503
04:39:35,000 --> 04:39:39,000
Going to the expense and the time and the energy involved and putting about measure.

2504
04:39:39,000 --> 04:39:45,000
I would feel better if if we had that information and I think it would strengthen.

2505
04:39:45,000 --> 04:39:49,000
County Council and our CIO's recommendation.

2506
04:39:49,000 --> 04:39:53,000
So the question because we've had surveys in the past and once you get past the first question,

2507
04:39:53,000 --> 04:39:55,000
depend on the answer you can't go any farther.

2508
04:39:55,000 --> 04:40:00,000
So if for example, the first question do you or do not support the special tax.

2509
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:06,000
If you say no is that going to deny you from because that's face it if if there's if it is.

2510
04:40:06,000 --> 04:40:18,000
If it is adopted by this board, then would you allow those who even oppose it to at least have some input as to what they would like to see if it does go on the board on the agenda or the ballot.

2511
04:40:18,000 --> 04:40:24,000
Well the way that I've seen the polls done is.

2512
04:40:24,000 --> 04:40:27,000
It's not really a yes or no answer.

2513
04:40:27,000 --> 04:40:29,000
I mean you can do polls however you want.

2514
04:40:29,000 --> 04:40:34,000
If you want to get the result that you want, you can write them a certain way to get that.

2515
04:40:34,000 --> 04:40:41,000
But if you what you really after in a poll is genuine information, they can be constructed to give you that.

2516
04:40:41,000 --> 04:40:47,000
So for example if the first question is.

2517
04:40:47,000 --> 04:40:51,000
If the how likely would you be to support.

2518
04:40:51,000 --> 04:40:58,000
Attacks on commercial medical medical commercial cannabis in zamakin county.

2519
04:40:58,000 --> 04:41:01,000
I'm what likely very likely.

2520
04:41:01,000 --> 04:41:10,000
I'm what unlikely very unlikely and then you can go further if the tax included.

2521
04:41:10,000 --> 04:41:18,000
Specific funds for law enforcement and then it could itemize those things.

2522
04:41:18,000 --> 04:41:20,000
Would you be more likely.

2523
04:41:20,000 --> 04:41:25,000
You know less likely same thing if if it included.

2524
04:41:25,000 --> 04:41:31,000
Prevention and education for young people drug abuse prevention.

2525
04:41:31,000 --> 04:41:32,000
Would you be more likely?

2526
04:41:32,000 --> 04:41:39,000
Would you be less likely not at all or very you know they can they can they can write it in such a way that.

2527
04:41:39,000 --> 04:41:46,000
If people are just adamant no I don't support any I don't want any part of this that would come through in their answers.

2528
04:41:46,000 --> 04:41:48,000
But if there are.

2529
04:41:48,000 --> 04:41:54,000
Specific things that could be added to it that would increase their likelihood.

2530
04:41:54,000 --> 04:41:58,000
Of supporting it then that information can be teased out as well.

2531
04:41:58,000 --> 04:41:59,000
All right.

2532
04:41:59,000 --> 04:42:03,000
You're right and I've done polls recently that.

2533
04:42:03,000 --> 04:42:05,000
And almost predict the outcome.

2534
04:42:05,000 --> 04:42:13,000
So I would want I would definitely want the poll written to actually get the information that that county council.

2535
04:42:13,000 --> 04:42:16,000
Beals is necessary to craft the best language.

2536
04:42:16,000 --> 04:42:18,000
No no preconceived.

2537
04:42:18,000 --> 04:42:19,000
Okay answers.

2538
04:42:19,000 --> 04:42:21,000
Also for a quick question.

2539
04:42:21,000 --> 04:42:26,000
Just for clarity we're voting on attacks for an ordinance we do not have in place yet.

2540
04:42:26,000 --> 04:42:31,000
So if are we planning on voting on that ordinance.

2541
04:42:31,000 --> 04:42:32,000
Number seven.

2542
04:42:32,000 --> 04:42:42,000
The motion that's pending is to basically move the to not take action to introduce in a way reading today.

2543
04:42:42,000 --> 04:42:53,000
But on the seventh to bring back a special tax to introduce in a way reading and then to take the final action on that on November 14th.

2544
04:42:53,000 --> 04:42:56,000
And between now and November 7th.

2545
04:42:57,000 --> 04:43:05,000
For county council to sharpens pencil and get some expert advice from some some tax people and a pollster.

2546
04:43:05,000 --> 04:43:11,000
Together information about what is the best language to include or to introduce and wait reading on the seventh.

2547
04:43:11,000 --> 04:43:16,000
I'm just hand and if we do not if we do not approve an ordinance.

2548
04:43:16,000 --> 04:43:21,000
Let's say this whole thing just doesn't we just can't come to terms for what an ordinance would look like.

2549
04:43:21,000 --> 04:43:25,000
Then it's almost a mute point the tax would never go to the ballot correct.

2550
04:43:27,000 --> 04:43:33,000
Correct. I mean if the board can't come to grips on on an ordinance to move forward and it doesn't go to the ballot.

2551
04:43:33,000 --> 04:43:41,000
Okay. So this is just if we went to the ballot if we come up with an ordinance this we go to the ballot. So this is the framework of what we would operate under that's correct.

2552
04:43:41,000 --> 04:43:42,000
Okay. Thank you very much.

2553
04:43:57,000 --> 04:44:02,000
Okay. Doctor three or two. Thank you.

2554
04:44:04,000 --> 04:44:10,000
All right. We have our afternoon session, which is late.

2555
04:44:12,000 --> 04:44:15,000
Where's community element.

2556
04:44:17,000 --> 04:44:19,000
Okay. It's carried out.

2557
04:44:20,000 --> 04:44:25,000
We'll do these hopefully rather smartly and quickly.

2558
04:44:25,000 --> 04:44:27,000
And then we'll have.

2559
04:44:28,000 --> 04:44:34,000
We have to get to press patty into La Puga out of here.

2560
04:44:49,000 --> 04:44:58,000
Okay.

2561
04:44:58,000 --> 04:44:59,000
You're on.

2562
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:08,000
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Board. John Fenderberg will be making it to the presentations.

2563
04:45:08,000 --> 04:45:12,000
Thank you. Well, abbreviate his presentations. Correct.

2564
04:45:12,000 --> 04:45:17,000
And the meet, and we're both available for any questions. Thank you.

2565
04:45:17,000 --> 04:45:23,000
Thank you, Kerry. Thank you, Chairman. When? And supervisors. This first project is a six year time discussion.

2566
04:45:23,000 --> 04:45:28,000
So I'm in time extension request for previously approved major subdivision application number.

2567
04:45:28,000 --> 04:45:33,000
PAE0300368 in a specific, specific plan one area of mountain house.

2568
04:45:33,000 --> 04:45:39,000
The project areas located in the proposed mountain house business park at the northwest corner of a mountain house parkway

2569
04:45:39,000 --> 04:45:50,000
and or state 205. Application requests. Over the past decade, many developers were not recording maps and investing in infrastructure improvements due to the weak economy and housing crisis.

2570
04:45:50,000 --> 04:45:57,000
And because of this low down, the applicant submitted a six year time extension request to allow for additional time to record the map.

2571
04:45:57,000 --> 04:46:10,000
Pursuant to development title section 9-8181.4 and extension of the expiration of an approved major subdivision application may be granted by the review authority for the period not to see six years.

2572
04:46:10,000 --> 04:46:18,000
If the time extension request is approved for this major subdivision application, the new expiration date will be November 22, 2023.

2573
04:46:18,000 --> 04:46:25,000
It's recommended that the board of supervisors approve the negative declaration for the six year time extension request for major subdivision application number.

2574
04:46:25,000 --> 04:46:36,000
PAE0300368 and approve the six year time extension for the previous approved major subdivision application with the previous approved findings and approved approved conditions are approval.

2575
04:46:36,000 --> 04:46:40,000
Thank you, Chair. When? This concludes to ask presentation.

2576
04:46:40,000 --> 04:46:43,000
Any questions?

2577
04:46:43,000 --> 04:46:45,000
Okay. Any other questions?

2578
04:46:45,000 --> 04:46:47,000
I speak on this issue.

2579
04:46:47,000 --> 04:46:52,000
If not, pleasure to board. Move to approve.

2580
04:46:52,000 --> 04:46:53,000
Thank you.

2581
04:46:53,000 --> 04:46:54,000
Second.

2582
04:46:54,000 --> 04:46:55,000
Okay.

2583
04:46:55,000 --> 04:46:57,000
Capture vote.

2584
04:47:00,000 --> 04:47:03,000
Okay, Dr. 5. Zero. Very good.

2585
04:47:03,000 --> 04:47:06,000
Number two.

2586
04:47:06,000 --> 04:47:12,800
Again, this second project, before your board, Chairman Wayne Supervisors, is another six-year

2587
04:47:12,800 --> 04:47:19,240
time-to-year time-to-year time extension request, previously approved major subdivision application

2588
04:47:19,240 --> 04:47:21,280
number, say that three times.

2589
04:47:21,280 --> 04:47:27,360
PA-050143 in the specific point-three area of mountain house.

2590
04:47:27,360 --> 04:47:31,280
The projectaries located in the southern portion of neighborhoods A and B. Let's see if I can

2591
04:47:31,280 --> 04:47:38,680
do this faster. Pursuant to developmental section 9-A1.4, again, an extension of an

2592
04:47:38,680 --> 04:47:43,160
approved major subdivision application may be granted by the review authority for a period

2593
04:47:43,160 --> 04:47:48,360
not to exceed six years. If the time extension request is approved for this application, the

2594
04:47:48,360 --> 04:47:54,400
new expiration date will be November 22, 2023. It is recommended that the board of supervisors

2595
04:47:54,400 --> 04:47:58,920
approve the ninth declaration for the six-year time extension request for major subdivision

2596
04:47:58,920 --> 04:48:05,680
application number, PA-050143 in approved of six-year time extension request for the pre-seal

2597
04:48:05,680 --> 04:48:10,400
approved major subdivision application with the pre-seal approved findings in the pre-seal

2598
04:48:10,400 --> 04:48:15,400
approved conditions that were approved. Thank you, Chairman Wayne. That concludes the task presentation.

2599
04:48:15,400 --> 04:48:23,640
Okay, an approved presentation. Thank you. Any questions at all? That's for both of your district

2600
04:48:23,640 --> 04:48:30,320
supervisor. Any comments? Did we have any, oh no, no, I don't have any. Okay. For the, yeah.

2601
04:48:30,320 --> 04:48:34,360
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll be very brief. Okay. Okay. Okay. Can three, four, one, four,

2602
04:48:34,360 --> 04:48:38,600
Brookside Road and Stockton. I'm here to represent the applicant. We'll consider the matter

2603
04:48:38,600 --> 04:48:42,800
submitted to the board. Look forward to your deliberations and a positive decision following staff

2604
04:48:42,800 --> 04:48:49,280
recommendation. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions? Questions concerns? Seeing none?

2605
04:48:49,360 --> 04:48:56,900
Pleasure to board. Make a motion approved. Staff recommendations. Okay.

2606
04:48:56,900 --> 04:49:01,360
Two motions. One, two, one, second. Thank you. Okay.

2607
04:49:01,360 --> 04:49:05,500
Dr. Five Zero. Thank you. Very well done. Thank you, Chair.

2608
04:49:05,500 --> 04:49:09,580
Sir, I also provide you. Thank you. Can all the presentations be that quick?

2609
04:49:09,580 --> 04:49:24,580
I think we can probably, you guys have to be out of here by four.

2610
04:49:24,580 --> 04:49:31,580
All right, so we'll go into closed session real quick.

2611
04:49:31,580 --> 04:49:33,580
We've got two supervisors have to catch a plane.

2612
04:49:33,580 --> 04:49:35,580
What we've got?

2613
04:49:35,580 --> 04:49:37,580
No problem.

2614
04:49:37,580 --> 04:49:38,580
Mr. Miles?

2615
04:49:38,580 --> 04:49:41,580
Board of meeting closed session on the items listed on the agenda.

2616
04:49:41,580 --> 04:49:44,580
There's no announcement expected coming out of closed session.

2617
04:49:44,580 --> 04:49:47,580
All right, we'll be back.

2618
04:50:05,580 --> 04:50:11,580
We need to go.

2619
04:50:35,580 --> 04:50:42,580
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.

2620
04:50:42,580 --> 04:50:43,580
And members of the board.

2621
04:50:43,580 --> 04:50:47,580
I am Jerry Becker, the county's Information Systems Director.

2622
04:50:47,580 --> 04:50:54,580
And with me today is Moond de Dubrov, our red star voters and David Nguage, the Assistant Director in ISD.

2623
04:50:54,580 --> 04:51:03,580
It's our pleasure today to provide you an overview of the Information Systems Division and its responsibilities.

2624
04:51:03,580 --> 04:51:09,580
Information Systems Division is comprised of six budget units, combined budget for these six units,

2625
04:51:09,580 --> 04:51:12,580
this fiscal year is approximately $33 million.

2626
04:51:12,580 --> 04:51:23,580
We have 125 talented staff along with the number of temporary employees and consultant partners responsible for the delivery of service to the county.

2627
04:51:23,580 --> 04:51:30,580
As you can see by this slide, we have a number of responsibilities including several technology disciplines,

2628
04:51:30,580 --> 04:51:37,580
as well as responsibility for homeland security granted administration and the red star of voters function.

2629
04:51:37,580 --> 04:51:43,580
For the next 25 minutes, I will be providing an overview of our responsibilities and services,

2630
04:51:43,580 --> 04:51:50,580
and then concluding with a brief demonstration of a newly completed solution we are very proud of.

2631
04:51:51,580 --> 04:51:55,580
So I'd like to start with an overview of the red star voters office.

2632
04:51:55,580 --> 04:52:06,580
Our mission is to conduct fair, accurate and secure elections, facilitate voter participation, and serve the public with integrity.

2633
04:52:06,580 --> 04:52:11,580
RLV's budget in this fiscal year is roughly $4 million.

2634
04:52:11,580 --> 04:52:16,580
We have 16 full-time staff and a number of temporary staff.

2635
04:52:16,580 --> 04:52:29,580
In during an election year, which this fiscal year is, we will also hire roughly $2,500 individuals who will be needed to support the election process.

2636
04:52:29,580 --> 04:52:35,580
At a high level, there are four core services delivered by the ROV team.

2637
04:52:35,580 --> 04:52:41,580
Three of these core services center around the election and election process.

2638
04:52:41,580 --> 04:52:52,580
And the non-election services related to government transparency, that is the statement of economic interest management material.

2639
04:52:52,580 --> 04:52:58,580
The most recent election cycle was a busy one for our ROV team.

2640
04:52:58,580 --> 04:53:06,580
During the 2016 election cycle, ROV assisted over 50,000 individuals registered vote.

2641
04:53:06,580 --> 04:53:21,580
Assisted over 300 candidates filed for office and removed nearly 4,000 voters from the role due to their moving out of the county passing away, etc.

2642
04:53:21,580 --> 04:53:34,580
Mr. Chairman, in addition to the responsibilities for the 2018 election, the ROV team has initiated a number of projects this fiscal year.

2643
04:53:34,580 --> 04:53:39,580
It supports the board's strategic goal of promoting good governance.

2644
04:53:39,580 --> 04:53:50,580
These projects include implementation of vote by mail drop boxes in each of our seven cities to make the voting process more convenient for voters.

2645
04:53:50,580 --> 04:54:00,580
We also have efforts underway to update the ROV website to improve service and leverage the county's new website technologies.

2646
04:54:00,580 --> 04:54:10,580
We also have other efforts that we intend to implement this year to improve support for both voters and candidates.

2647
04:54:10,580 --> 04:54:20,580
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to now transition to the technology side of ISD and provide the board an overview of the information systems function.

2648
04:54:20,580 --> 04:54:29,580
ISD's mission in summary is to provide technology solutions that improve the way county services are delivered to the public.

2649
04:54:29,580 --> 04:54:47,580
ISD's technology team is comprised of 98 talented individuals, 70 of our team members are located here in the county administration building, and 20, 60 members are co-located with our customers at nine locations throughout the county.

2650
04:54:47,580 --> 04:54:55,580
The ISD team supports both business operations and public safety organizations for our most critical services.

2651
04:54:55,580 --> 04:55:03,580
The ISD team provides service seven days a week, 24 hours a day.

2652
04:55:03,580 --> 04:55:15,580
The ISD team delivers a full range of technology services that include the development and delivery of standards and policies for technology and security.

2653
04:55:15,580 --> 04:55:23,580
The project management cloud services and computing capabilities, website development.

2654
04:55:23,580 --> 04:55:39,580
We deliver communication services, including management and support of the public safety radio system, telephones for all of our employees, mobile computing device support, infrastructure management and security services.

2655
04:55:39,580 --> 04:55:47,580
So as you can see, the ISD team provides a wide variety of technology services to the county.

2656
04:55:47,580 --> 04:55:52,580
ISD is structured into seven functional areas depicted on this slide.

2657
04:55:52,580 --> 04:55:59,580
The department is structured in this fashion to facilitate both operational efficiency and depth of knowledge.

2658
04:55:59,580 --> 04:56:07,580
This ensures that there is more than one person in ISD who is well versed in every system and technology we support.

2659
04:56:07,580 --> 04:56:11,580
I'd like to take a moment now to highlight a few of these teams.

2660
04:56:11,580 --> 04:56:15,580
I will start with the application support and development team.

2661
04:56:15,580 --> 04:56:26,580
This team is responsible for the county's core systems, everything from payroll, to property tax, to the county's many law and justice systems.

2662
04:56:26,580 --> 04:56:36,580
Our infrastructure and communications team manages the county's two primary data centers as well as a disaster recovery site that was just recently implemented by our county.

2663
04:56:36,580 --> 04:56:49,580
The infrastructure team manages a very large amount of computing power on behalf of the county, both in our data centers and via cloud services like those procured from Google.

2664
04:56:49,580 --> 04:56:55,580
We also are managing an exceptionally large amount of data storage for the county.

2665
04:56:55,580 --> 04:57:00,580
The county currently manages 1.6 petabytes of storage.

2666
04:57:00,580 --> 04:57:08,580
The term petabyte might not be familiar to the public, but the public is likely familiar with terms like megabytes and gigabytes.

2667
04:57:08,580 --> 04:57:15,580
So to put it in perspective, 1.6 petabytes is the equivalent of 1.6 million gigabytes.

2668
04:57:15,580 --> 04:57:26,580
So we are managing a tremendous amount of storage for the county and our storage is doubling about every four years in size.

2669
04:57:26,580 --> 04:57:36,580
Our communications team also manages 16 radio tower sites located both within the county and two outside the county on mountaintops.

2670
04:57:36,580 --> 04:57:42,580
These tower sites are the foundation of the entire region's public safety radio system.

2671
04:57:42,580 --> 04:57:55,580
If you're a local government entity in San Joaquin County, you in some ways shape a form or using a portion of the county's public safety radio system.

2672
04:57:55,580 --> 04:58:07,580
The team also manages the data and voice networks that connects all of the county's facilities and is responsible for the telephone system used by our employees every day.

2673
04:58:07,580 --> 04:58:14,580
Our customer service team is our frontline of support and is often the face of ISD to our customers.

2674
04:58:14,580 --> 04:58:23,580
So far in 2017, ISD has received and resolved over 10,000 work orders on behalf of our customers.

2675
04:58:24,580 --> 04:58:29,580
In this slide, you can see our top three categories of calls that we received for assistance.

2676
04:58:29,580 --> 04:58:33,580
Application support communications support and hardware.

2677
04:58:33,580 --> 04:58:38,580
Application support is roughly 1% this year.

2678
04:58:38,580 --> 04:58:46,580
That's to be expected in that we're returning loose a lot of new innovation to the county and so those new systems result in additional calls.

2679
04:58:46,580 --> 04:58:53,580
We're up about 1% on our communications support calls and we're down 3% on our hardware calls.

2680
04:58:53,580 --> 04:59:09,580
Again, I believe that that decreases reflective of the quality and reliability of the equipment that we're delivering to county employees for their day-to-day use.

2681
04:59:10,580 --> 04:59:18,580
So I'd like to do now to just take a few minutes to talk about the major projects we have underway in ISD on behalf of the county.

2682
04:59:18,580 --> 04:59:25,580
ISD has over 30 technology, 30 technology projects currently being developed and implemented.

2683
04:59:25,580 --> 04:59:30,580
These projects have a total cost of roughly $60 million.

2684
04:59:30,580 --> 04:59:36,580
As you can see, every project in ISD is reviewed to ensure its support of the board strategic priorities.

2685
04:59:36,580 --> 04:59:44,580
We have several projects underway that support the board strategic priority of promoting the governance and increasing operational capabilities.

2686
04:59:44,580 --> 04:59:51,580
These projects include the modernization of the counties or the assessors property tax system,

2687
04:59:51,580 --> 05:00:00,580
implementation of a new clinical and administrative system for semiconductor general hospital and efforts to increase the security surrounding.

2688
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:13,000
Our most sensitive data. We are also working to expand our new phone system to four new county departments, which will be over a thousand additional employees.

2689
05:00:13,000 --> 05:00:19,000
And we are delivering over 600 new desktop computers this year to county staff.

2690
05:00:19,000 --> 05:00:29,000
Under the board priority of ensuring fiscal responsibility, we are working closely with the county administrator and auditor controller

2691
05:00:29,000 --> 05:00:36,000
to improve the county's financial reporting tools and to strengthen the county's financial controls.

2692
05:00:36,000 --> 05:00:51,000
To promote economic development, we are following the county administrator's lead, and we are working with our office and with the county administrator directly to expand the capabilities of the county's economic development website.

2693
05:00:51,000 --> 05:01:01,000
Lastly, we have several projects underway that will meet the board's direction to improve public safety and enhance the county's overall criminal justice system.

2694
05:01:01,000 --> 05:01:11,000
Projects such as the implementation of a new jail management system, modernization of our county interface to the Department of Justice.

2695
05:01:11,000 --> 05:01:23,000
And our partnership will share of more and is deemed to implement a new computerative dispatch and records management system to name but a few of the projects we have in this area.

2696
05:01:23,000 --> 05:01:31,000
In addition, we are in the midst of building two new radio towers, one in Clements and one in the city of Tracy.

2697
05:01:31,000 --> 05:01:47,000
We are implementing new technologies that will ensure the continued operation of our public safety radio system used by first responders during a disaster, even if we lose several radio towers at the same time.

2698
05:01:47,000 --> 05:01:59,000
Mr. Chairman, these are just a few of the projects that we have underway on behalf of the county that are targeting improved service to our citizens.

2699
05:01:59,000 --> 05:02:07,000
Mr. Chairman, and members of the board, I hope that I have conveyed the tremendous level of innovation underway in silicon county.

2700
05:02:07,000 --> 05:02:11,000
The level of innovation our county is fostering is truly impressive.

2701
05:02:11,000 --> 05:02:15,000
I am pleased to say that this is not only my opinion.

2702
05:02:15,000 --> 05:02:27,000
So in the county, it was recently recognized by the Center for Digital Government as one of the top 10 counties in the United States for its innovative use of technology.

2703
05:02:27,000 --> 05:02:42,000
This national award evaluates counties on numerous factors, factors that include innovation, transparency, citizen focus, and alignment of technology investments with the county's strategic priorities.

2704
05:02:42,000 --> 05:02:49,000
I am very proud of our counties achievement in this area. It is no small thing to win this award.

2705
05:02:49,000 --> 05:03:07,000
In addition, I am very pleased to announce that just last week, San Joaquin County was also recognized by the Association of California County Information Systems Directors as one of the top counties in California in the category of innovation and collaboration.

2706
05:03:08,000 --> 05:03:16,000
This award was for one of our projects, the innovative care of adolescent needs, otherwise known as the ICANN project.

2707
05:03:16,000 --> 05:03:35,000
This project came out of our Google Innovation Lab effort, which was led by Miss Nino, our county administrator, and I am proud to say that it was done in partnership with Stephanie James, our chief probation officer and Mike Miller, our human services director,

2708
05:03:35,000 --> 05:03:51,000
who came up with this innovative idea. It was their innovation, their creative thoughts that really allow us to transform the way that we are providing service to our at risk youth in this county.

2709
05:03:51,000 --> 05:04:04,000
So I would like to do now Mr. Chairman, ask Jim Brown, or project leader on this effort, if he could step up and provide us just a very quick demonstration of this application.

2710
05:04:05,000 --> 05:04:07,000
All right.

2711
05:04:20,000 --> 05:04:22,000
Good afternoon, Board.

2712
05:04:22,000 --> 05:04:25,000
We are trying to keep this brief.

2713
05:04:26,000 --> 05:04:41,000
So as Jerry had mentioned, this project came out of Google Innovation Lab, where we basically hatched a couple times ten thinking to come up with some ideas and how to deal with foster youth at risk youth.

2714
05:04:41,000 --> 05:04:51,000
Two concepts came about, one was that it was a need for a collaboration environment or data documents and information on a particular youth in the county.

2715
05:04:51,000 --> 05:04:57,000
Could be shared in a common place and used by the county workers and in other family members.

2716
05:04:57,000 --> 05:05:11,000
I also had a need for basically within the same environment, how to create what we call as our matching engine to try to find a home for a particular youth based on data that we pulled into the system.

2717
05:05:11,000 --> 05:05:22,000
So it was a, it was a big reach as far as what we could use for building an application and we are ready now to deploy and we feel like we have done a fairly good job with this.

2718
05:05:22,000 --> 05:05:27,000
Today, I just wanted to show you what the county worker would see when they go into the application.

2719
05:05:27,000 --> 05:05:31,000
As you can see, this is what they would refer to as our dashboard.

2720
05:05:31,000 --> 05:05:43,000
There are several tools that's available on this dashboard for the county worker to use whether it be from HSA at CPS or probation officer in the juvenile upon placement unit.

2721
05:05:43,000 --> 05:05:49,000
And the work would come in, we will see announcements for the day they have their calendar below that.

2722
05:05:49,000 --> 05:06:03,000
The youth is assigned to this particular worker and then also they have an area where they have resource families that have been approved by the state to provide a home for a foster youth.

2723
05:06:03,000 --> 05:06:09,000
There's a number of tools that are evident within this application to provide support for the worker.

2724
05:06:09,000 --> 05:06:20,000
Cover the ones on the main part of the page. They also have a place to put documentation, not a lot in there right now relevant to this, this is more of our test environment.

2725
05:06:20,000 --> 05:06:24,000
But this is where the information would be stored on a particular youth.

2726
05:06:24,000 --> 05:06:31,000
A number of the workers both from BHS from actually your office of education.

2727
05:06:31,000 --> 05:06:37,000
HSA and probation would often go out and try to look for the same data on a particular youth.

2728
05:06:37,000 --> 05:06:40,000
Maybe it was the use of education records in what not.

2729
05:06:40,000 --> 05:06:49,000
One of them would go out and they would find the information that the others or other workers would follow the same process, whether it by fax and email or phone calls.

2730
05:06:49,000 --> 05:07:01,000
A lot of times they would like to wait for the information. In this way if there's a person that actually is looking for the information, they can get the information loaded in here one time then everybody has it.

2731
05:07:01,000 --> 05:07:08,000
We also have tools in here as we are building to provide performance indicators.

2732
05:07:08,000 --> 05:07:18,000
Statistics in other information, maybe monthly reports on what is going on with placements of youth, how many youth are in the system, a waiting placement in a home and in other actions.

2733
05:07:18,000 --> 05:07:23,000
So it's a very graphical based reporting tool.

2734
05:07:23,000 --> 05:07:28,000
We also have simple features with the tools of that part of the collaboration environment.

2735
05:07:28,000 --> 05:07:37,000
They can certainly use the same tool to provide emails to schedule meetings, to perform what they call a child family team meeting.

2736
05:07:37,000 --> 05:07:46,000
And the tool is actually planned to be used so that if the youth has a laptop or a PC in the house, they can actually get a log on and participate in the meetings.

2737
05:07:46,000 --> 05:07:50,000
They can have a say as to where they would want to be placed.

2738
05:07:50,000 --> 05:08:02,000
The families themselves and the resource families would all have log in and landing pages in this application to be able to share the same information with the teams and discuss options and placements.

2739
05:08:02,000 --> 05:08:09,000
So these are all parts of the tools that have been built into the system for that purpose.

2740
05:08:10,000 --> 05:08:20,000
So to get other information besides documents, we basically had to create data extracts from existing state and county systems to bring information on a common youth.

2741
05:08:20,000 --> 05:08:23,000
So we'll pick up a youth here.

2742
05:08:23,000 --> 05:08:26,000
And as you can see, on a mock youth here we have.

2743
05:08:26,000 --> 05:08:33,000
We have a lot of information from a personal probation perspective where they may be placed in a history of placements.

2744
05:08:33,000 --> 05:08:43,000
Child welfare, a support team with sisters brothers possibly could be aunts, uncles, guardian would be present here all under these same tabs.

2745
05:08:43,000 --> 05:08:48,000
It's a very quick aggregation of information at the fingertips of any worker.

2746
05:08:48,000 --> 05:08:53,000
Where this would often take in days to basically assemble the same information and looking through different systems.

2747
05:08:53,000 --> 05:08:57,000
We also carry forward similar information.

2748
05:08:58,000 --> 05:09:01,000
We have licensed resource families.

2749
05:09:01,000 --> 05:09:10,000
As you can see, this information here is actually extracted from the state's county, our child welfare system to show that what that RFA was licensed to provide.

2750
05:09:10,000 --> 05:09:17,000
We have pages in here for RFA management where basically in the county now in HSA.

2751
05:09:17,000 --> 05:09:20,000
The process uses.

2752
05:09:20,000 --> 05:09:22,000
Might take.

2753
05:09:22,000 --> 05:09:24,000
Excuse me.

2754
05:09:24,000 --> 05:09:29,000
Might take hours and hours for them to assemble a match of a youth to a home.

2755
05:09:29,000 --> 05:09:37,000
They have to go through several binders and multiple Excel spreadsheets to find the parameters that might be reflecting in a proper match.

2756
05:09:37,000 --> 05:09:41,000
We have basically given them the controls and this to be able to manage that application,

2757
05:09:41,000 --> 05:09:48,000
and then to submit it and follow through with the state and get licensed and then follow up in a management context.

2758
05:09:48,000 --> 05:09:54,000
And then the last thing I want to show you today is basically the accumulation of the data that we pull up pulled together.

2759
05:09:54,000 --> 05:09:57,000
We want to come in and do a match on a particular youth.

2760
05:09:57,000 --> 05:10:07,000
This thing that would have taken hours before, and we can pull up on a particular youth, go to Elizabeth.

2761
05:10:07,000 --> 05:10:12,000
And with Elizabeth we just want to put you to the button try to find a home for placement.

2762
05:10:12,000 --> 05:10:22,000
You can see rather quickly we have found that the resource family here in Stockton has a set of parameters that are actually a good match as you can see the highlights depicted.

2763
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Based on the parameters that we have entered both for the youth and for the family that has been licensed.

2764
05:10:28,000 --> 05:10:33,000
And so really quickly we can see who is the best candidate for the youth to be placed with.

2765
05:10:33,000 --> 05:10:40,000
We provide other placement possibilities so that the social worker themselves can look through or the provision officer.

2766
05:10:40,000 --> 05:10:48,000
And actually determined by looking at these factors probably what's in the best interest of the youth for this placement and then make the final determination.

2767
05:10:48,000 --> 05:10:53,000
So that's the quick spin through our application today.

2768
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I hope you found it interesting.

2769
05:10:57,000 --> 05:10:58,000
Thank you Jim.

2770
05:10:58,000 --> 05:11:06,000
So Mr. Chairman, I'd like to close by saying how proud I am of the ISD and ROV teams.

2771
05:11:06,000 --> 05:11:10,000
It is really a privilege to work alongside them every day.

2772
05:11:10,000 --> 05:11:21,000
We recognize an ISD that is our good fortune to work in a county where the board, the CIO, and our department heads foster an encouraged thoughtful innovation.

2773
05:11:21,000 --> 05:11:28,000
And in a county where every day we get the opportunity to do good and meaningful work for the community we serve.

2774
05:11:28,000 --> 05:11:32,000
So Mr. Chairman, a member of the board that concludes my presentation.

2775
05:11:32,000 --> 05:11:39,000
My staff and I are available to answer any questions you may have.

2776
05:11:40,000 --> 05:11:44,000
Thank you Mr. Chairman.

2777
05:11:44,000 --> 05:11:45,000
No questions.

2778
05:11:45,000 --> 05:11:49,000
I just wanted to congratulate you on the awards you received here.

2779
05:11:49,000 --> 05:11:53,000
The top 10 digital counties in the top 10 in the country.

2780
05:11:53,000 --> 05:11:54,000
Yes.

2781
05:11:54,000 --> 05:11:55,000
Yes.

2782
05:11:55,000 --> 05:11:56,000
That's pretty impressive.

2783
05:11:56,000 --> 05:11:59,000
And then the California Innovation Award.

2784
05:11:59,000 --> 05:12:00,000
Very great.

2785
05:12:00,000 --> 05:12:04,000
And then this latest demonstration of that technology.

2786
05:12:04,000 --> 05:12:06,000
Very impressive on all of that.

2787
05:12:06,000 --> 05:12:08,000
So thanks for an excellent presentation.

2788
05:12:08,000 --> 05:12:09,000
Thank you.

2789
05:12:09,000 --> 05:12:11,000
And thanks for the great work you do for the county.

2790
05:12:11,000 --> 05:12:12,000
Thank you.

2791
05:12:12,000 --> 05:12:13,000
Mr. Chairman.

2792
05:12:13,000 --> 05:12:14,000
Thank you.

2793
05:12:14,000 --> 05:12:15,000
Thank you.

2794
05:12:15,000 --> 05:12:16,000
Thank you Chair.

2795
05:12:16,000 --> 05:12:17,000
No comment also.

2796
05:12:17,000 --> 05:12:18,000
Just wanted to congratulate you also.

2797
05:12:18,000 --> 05:12:19,000
You do an excellent job.

2798
05:12:19,000 --> 05:12:20,000
You and your staff.

2799
05:12:20,000 --> 05:12:22,000
And a key of the good work.

2800
05:12:22,000 --> 05:12:23,000
Great job.

2801
05:12:23,000 --> 05:12:24,000
Thank you.

2802
05:12:24,000 --> 05:12:25,000
Thank you.

2803
05:12:25,000 --> 05:12:26,000
Thank you.

2804
05:12:26,000 --> 05:12:29,000
Thank you Chairman.

2805
05:12:29,000 --> 05:12:31,000
I'm going to start off by saying I'm a contrarian.

2806
05:12:31,000 --> 05:12:33,000
I don't believe in such a thing as accidents.

2807
05:12:33,000 --> 05:12:37,000
I believe that things happen as a direct result of action.

2808
05:12:37,000 --> 05:12:39,000
Or in action.

2809
05:12:39,000 --> 05:12:46,000
And what how you're your team functions the things that you do on a daily basis.

2810
05:12:46,000 --> 05:12:49,000
The threats you protect us from to keep this county running.

2811
05:12:49,000 --> 05:12:53,000
The level of excellence, which is reflected by a recent award.

2812
05:12:53,000 --> 05:12:54,000
And many more accolades.

2813
05:12:54,000 --> 05:12:55,000
I'm certain.

2814
05:12:55,000 --> 05:12:58,000
You've a massive phenomenal team.

2815
05:12:58,000 --> 05:13:01,000
You've an example of great leadership.

2816
05:13:01,000 --> 05:13:05,000
And fantastic accomplishments on behalf of the county.

2817
05:13:05,000 --> 05:13:12,000
There's people that we serve and I just want to compliment and thank everybody.

2818
05:13:12,000 --> 05:13:15,000
Your entire team that's a mass and those that are not able to be here.

2819
05:13:15,000 --> 05:13:18,000
That it does you work in keeping the county running.

2820
05:13:18,000 --> 05:13:22,000
Pass on a big level of gratitude and recognition for all that they do.

2821
05:13:22,000 --> 05:13:23,000
Fantastic job.

2822
05:13:23,000 --> 05:13:24,000
Very well done.

2823
05:13:24,000 --> 05:13:25,000
I will.

2824
05:13:25,000 --> 05:13:26,000
Thank you.

2825
05:13:26,000 --> 05:13:28,000
This project is really exciting.

2826
05:13:28,000 --> 05:13:31,000
I know how much time goes into.

2827
05:13:31,000 --> 05:13:42,000
The phone calls and trying to track people down to make these placements which are difficult at best.

2828
05:13:42,000 --> 05:13:45,000
So I can see where this.

2829
05:13:45,000 --> 05:13:51,000
Program is just going to increase the productivity and the success rate tremendously.

2830
05:13:51,000 --> 05:13:56,000
So I can I can see why it's an award winning program.

2831
05:13:56,000 --> 05:14:02,000
And I can only guess at how pleased your.

2832
05:14:02,000 --> 05:14:04,000
Probation in.

2833
05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:10,000
Human services agency partners are to to have this kind of a new resource and tool for them.

2834
05:14:10,000 --> 05:14:11,000
I think we'll really.

2835
05:14:11,000 --> 05:14:15,000
Really benefit a lot of young people in Soundworking County.

2836
05:14:15,000 --> 05:14:16,000
Thank you.

2837
05:14:16,000 --> 05:14:17,000
Thank you.

2838
05:14:17,000 --> 05:14:18,000
Oh, degree.

2839
05:14:18,000 --> 05:14:19,000
I would.

2840
05:14:19,000 --> 05:14:21,000
I would echo all the comments already.

2841
05:14:21,000 --> 05:14:23,000
Obviously nothing happens by accident.

2842
05:14:23,000 --> 05:14:25,000
It's your leadership and your staff.

2843
05:14:25,000 --> 05:14:27,000
I do have a kind of a question.

2844
05:14:27,000 --> 05:14:29,000
And I I would probably deferred.

2845
05:14:29,000 --> 05:14:30,000
Supervisor Miller.

2846
05:14:30,000 --> 05:14:32,000
But.

2847
05:14:32,000 --> 05:14:35,000
You know homelessness is an issue.

2848
05:14:35,000 --> 05:14:40,000
And I know one of the things that they're dealing with a variety of organizations is.

2849
05:14:40,000 --> 05:14:45,000
Isn't that sort of keeping track of of their activities, their locations.

2850
05:14:45,000 --> 05:14:47,000
You know possibly.

2851
05:14:47,000 --> 05:14:52,000
You know, outside of the shelter and of criminalizing and then maybe into a job,

2852
05:14:52,000 --> 05:14:53,000
et cetera.

2853
05:14:53,000 --> 05:14:54,000
And I don't know.

2854
05:14:54,000 --> 05:14:59,000
And I, but I would be interested to see if maybe that particular program could be applied.

2855
05:14:59,000 --> 05:15:00,000
Because was.

2856
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:13,000
So many organizations deal with the homeless. It would be nice to be able to pull something up when you have somebody in front of you and kind of find out where they've been, where they're doing and what their needs are.

2857
05:15:13,000 --> 05:15:23,000
I mean, I don't want to give in too much private information, but just the general information that would be available would be certainly beneficial for those organizations that have contact.

2858
05:15:23,000 --> 05:15:34,000
The other thing is, is I, I, I, I, I almost got Ralph, I, it just got my office, he's up there quite frequently kind of just things that I, that I break or whatever.

2859
05:15:34,000 --> 05:15:44,000
So I appreciate that. The other part of it is, do you have any any oversight over autonomous vehicles?

2860
05:15:44,000 --> 05:15:48,000
No, I don't Mr. Chairman. Okay. Just a question.

2861
05:15:48,000 --> 05:15:54,000
It, it is the way of the future and and I would expect probably talk to Mr. Biology.

2862
05:15:54,000 --> 05:16:05,000
But there are opportunities in regards to the future and transportation, which, which are, for like a better term, technologically driven.

2863
05:16:05,000 --> 05:16:15,000
And I would certainly think that at some point in time, your, your department, your staff may be involved in, and somehow introducing those to the county,

2864
05:16:15,000 --> 05:16:27,000
because there, there are opportunities, which was certainly reduced our fleet or need for, for the, because we currently have and provide better flexibility and lower costs, et cetera.

2865
05:16:27,000 --> 05:16:30,000
So anyway, just, just a question.

2866
05:16:30,000 --> 05:16:41,000
So Mr. Chairman, I, I will share that we are in discussions with two of the large telephone utilities, the wireless utilities to discuss with them.

2867
05:16:41,000 --> 05:16:46,000
How we may be able to partner to bring 5G and faster technologies to our region.

2868
05:16:46,000 --> 05:16:53,000
And the 5G technologies you know is critical to the autonomous vehicles being able to function.

2869
05:16:53,000 --> 05:17:06,000
So from that perspective, from an infrastructure perspective, I guess I should change my answer and say in some ways, we are working with support of the county administrator on,

2870
05:17:06,000 --> 05:17:20,000
looking at how we might be able to foster investments in our community by those large entities to, to accelerate the implementation of 5G and faster technologies.

2871
05:17:20,000 --> 05:17:30,000
Well, it's good to know. I, I would, I would say this that one of the things that I see on the various committees that I serve on, especially with the council governments.

2872
05:17:30,000 --> 05:17:37,000
With the port of stock and certainly with their data center that hopefully will be up at some time.

2873
05:17:37,000 --> 05:17:57,000
But but I would say the, you know, technology is, is certainly critical to the, the improvement or the advancement of this county, especially when we talk about recruiting technology industries into this county, especially.

2874
05:17:57,000 --> 05:18:02,000
And I know the partnership has been working on this for years, but in regards to the Silicon Valley.

2875
05:18:02,000 --> 05:18:11,000
And it would seem that at some point in time that people would realize that a large percentage of the workforce that's in the Silicon Valley lives in Silicon County.

2876
05:18:11,000 --> 05:18:22,000
And therefore the question arises is why aren't they here, because for a variety reason is it cheaper land and I know the Silicon Valley is challenged because they're running out of land.

2877
05:18:22,000 --> 05:18:32,000
So for expansion, et cetera. So anyway, I appreciate, you know, certainly the award you receive certainly recognition for the county.

2878
05:18:32,000 --> 05:18:39,000
And hopefully, you know, with the various departments and agencies that we interface with both with the cities and certainly that partnership and others.

2879
05:18:39,000 --> 05:18:49,000
But you can continue to provide leadership early ideas for some of those programs, because I think that's important to continue to.

2880
05:18:50,000 --> 05:19:02,000
To prove our economy, frankly, so anyway, thanks to you and and in your staff and all you do certainly enjoy the productivity that I get my office and and again, it makes my job a lot easier.

2881
05:19:02,000 --> 05:19:04,000
So any questions.

2882
05:19:04,000 --> 05:19:05,000
Okay.

2883
05:19:05,000 --> 05:19:06,000
I was.

2884
05:19:06,000 --> 05:19:07,000
It's worth that.

2885
05:19:07,000 --> 05:19:09,000
Thank you, Chairman. It's one more follow up. I would really appreciate that.

2886
05:19:09,000 --> 05:19:15,000
I know there's a myriad of things you guys do on daily basis, but appreciate you coming in and just highlighting some very important things that you do.

2887
05:19:15,000 --> 05:19:23,000
And we're always on the purview of what you have going on, we appreciate and recognize it whether it be at the hospital or in different areas.

2888
05:19:23,000 --> 05:19:27,000
I know you do a lot of things, but thank you for today's presentation was a very informative.

2889
05:19:27,000 --> 05:19:28,000
Thank you.

2890
05:19:28,000 --> 05:19:29,000
All right.

2891
05:19:29,000 --> 05:19:32,000
Okay. Now we have HR.

2892
05:19:32,000 --> 05:19:36,000
Go.

2893
05:19:37,000 --> 05:19:42,000
Chairman, I'm going to announce an advance and to HR department.

2894
05:19:42,000 --> 05:19:50,000
I will be watching this presentation later on, but we just go get ready for a flight from behalf of the county for Lafco.

2895
05:19:50,000 --> 05:19:57,000
So don't think for a moment that we're not going to be catching your presentation, but it will be remotely.

2896
05:19:57,000 --> 05:19:59,000
So forgive us for leaving now.

2897
05:19:59,000 --> 05:20:00,000
Thank you.

2898
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:02,000
And have a pleasant flight.

2899
05:20:02,000 --> 05:20:03,000
And send me a test.

2900
05:20:03,000 --> 05:20:04,000
Excuse me on this presentation.

2901
05:20:04,000 --> 05:20:05,000
Just the hour.

2902
05:20:05,000 --> 05:20:06,000
I'll have it down.

2903
05:20:06,000 --> 05:20:07,000
Okay.

2904
05:20:07,000 --> 05:20:08,000
I'll do that.

2905
05:20:08,000 --> 05:20:09,000
Thank you.

2906
05:20:15,000 --> 05:20:19,000
Chairman, I'm members of the board, county staff.

2907
05:20:19,000 --> 05:20:22,000
It's my pleasure as the director of human resources.

2908
05:20:22,000 --> 05:20:29,000
Ted Swift to present the human resources overview for the fiscal year 1617.

2909
05:20:29,000 --> 05:20:37,000
Also, joining me here is Amy Burke, who's formal title is our staff development coordinator.

2910
05:20:37,000 --> 05:20:47,000
But we have come to call her our chief engagement officer these days for reasons that will become more clear as we go through the presentation.

2911
05:20:47,000 --> 05:20:58,000
So starting with the human resources overview, going to put a bit of emphasis on the human part of human resources in terms of identifying some of our staff and what their functions are

2912
05:20:58,000 --> 05:21:02,000
and the work that they perform for county government.

2913
05:21:02,000 --> 05:21:04,000
But we have introduction and background.

2914
05:21:04,000 --> 05:21:09,000
I think most of you know, Sam McKin County is the largest employer in the county.

2915
05:21:09,000 --> 05:21:20,000
In 2016, 17 was supported approximately 7,000 employees within the county with the team of 48 full-time staff members.

2916
05:21:21,000 --> 05:21:32,000
Our department HR currently partners with every county department in many of the functions that those departments carry out in providing services to citizens.

2917
05:21:32,000 --> 05:21:45,000
I have been the HR director since May of 2014 and our deputy director Kathy Harris has been in her position since April of 2007.

2918
05:21:45,000 --> 05:21:47,000
Human resources vision statement.

2919
05:21:47,000 --> 05:21:57,000
Sam McKin County HR works to be a resource to all prospective employees and current employees to ensure a safe, efficient, compliant and collaborative employment opportunity.

2920
05:21:57,000 --> 05:22:05,000
The goal of HR is to partner with every department to support the overall mission of Sam McKin County.

2921
05:22:05,000 --> 05:22:10,000
So what does that mean? What are the things that we do?

2922
05:22:10,000 --> 05:22:15,000
Our key functions are acquisition, finding the right people for the jobs.

2923
05:22:15,000 --> 05:22:22,000
Retention, providing jobs satisfaction and growth opportunities so they were able to retain employees.

2924
05:22:22,000 --> 05:22:26,000
And also support when obstacles arise is their disciplines.

2925
05:22:26,000 --> 05:22:29,000
Are there medical issues? Are there leaves of absence?

2926
05:22:29,000 --> 05:22:39,000
We're not employees require our support and for us to facilitate them being absent from the workplace in order to take care of their needs.

2927
05:22:39,000 --> 05:22:49,000
So we have identified in terms of the employment function but we would call the employment life cycle.

2928
05:22:49,000 --> 05:22:52,000
It begins with the recruitment process.

2929
05:22:52,000 --> 05:23:01,000
Moose to onboarding which is sort of a new buzzword for new employee orientation.

2930
05:23:01,000 --> 05:23:08,000
Once those employees are onboarded and brought in and advised to make aware of our culture, et cetera.

2931
05:23:08,000 --> 05:23:11,000
They'll move on to the development phase.

2932
05:23:11,000 --> 05:23:13,000
Their performance will be evaluated.

2933
05:23:13,000 --> 05:23:16,000
They'll have the ability to take leaves.

2934
05:23:16,000 --> 05:23:19,000
They can transfer between departments in the county.

2935
05:23:19,000 --> 05:23:24,000
They could be the subject of employee relations either in a union or a non union environment.

2936
05:23:24,000 --> 05:23:30,000
And ultimately they'll be separated and will be assisting them in that.

2937
05:23:30,000 --> 05:23:41,000
So life function as well, particularly in Nevada, it results in their retirement from employment through our county retirement system.

2938
05:23:41,000 --> 05:23:46,000
HR is divided into nine work groups.

2939
05:23:46,000 --> 05:23:55,000
I've just described them very briefly because the rest of the presentation frankly is broken down in each of these nine groups and explanation of what they do and who performs that work.

2940
05:23:55,000 --> 05:23:59,000
So recruitment and selection is a very important function of ours.

2941
05:23:59,000 --> 05:24:08,000
We perform that function centrally here in this building as well as we have a physical on-site presence at Sam King General Hospital.

2942
05:24:08,000 --> 05:24:10,000
I'll talk about a little bit more in detail.

2943
05:24:10,000 --> 05:24:14,000
That's the only satellite office that we have.

2944
05:24:14,000 --> 05:24:18,000
We also perform functions in classification and compensation.

2945
05:24:18,000 --> 05:24:27,000
Benefits, Equal Employment Opportunity, Labor Relations, Risk Management, the Civil Service Commission,

2946
05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:34,000
Position Control and our SJC Engage Program.

2947
05:24:34,000 --> 05:24:37,000
Starting with recruitment and selection.

2948
05:24:37,000 --> 05:24:42,000
Our team is led by Jennifer Goodman, Rachel Levetsky and Roman Plateau.

2949
05:24:42,000 --> 05:24:47,000
They are the three principal analysts to see identified under the people's section of this slide.

2950
05:24:47,000 --> 05:24:52,000
They are supported by ten analysts and four support staff.

2951
05:24:52,000 --> 05:25:03,000
They really serve as HR business partners to the department staff to meet their needs in terms of HR, hiring, discipline, benefits issues.

2952
05:25:03,000 --> 05:25:05,000
They're supporting those departments.

2953
05:25:05,000 --> 05:25:14,000
They're really the gateway for our departments into HR and a lot of the other specialized functions that HR performs.

2954
05:25:14,000 --> 05:25:18,000
They advise county managers and leaders on issues relating to staff.

2955
05:25:18,000 --> 05:25:26,000
Ensure compliance with regard to employment law, county policy, the MOUs, civil service rules.

2956
05:25:26,000 --> 05:25:30,000
We, in HR, we have lots of rules.

2957
05:25:30,000 --> 05:25:38,000
We're sort of the enforcers in the county in terms of making certain the various county departments.

2958
05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:44,000
Do their hiring and process their employees in ways that are always consistent with the law.

2959
05:25:44,000 --> 05:25:55,000
And in that work we work obviously very closely with county council to make certain that we're taking the best path possible.

2960
05:25:55,000 --> 05:26:04,000
We also support the county administrators office and individual departments during the annual budget process determining classifications for new employees.

2961
05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:12,000
Other functions as well as taking a hard look at what the requests are from those departments for additional staff.

2962
05:26:12,000 --> 05:26:14,000
A few statistics.

2963
05:26:14,000 --> 05:26:20,000
You can see that we've hired 729 employees in fiscal year 1617.

2964
05:26:20,000 --> 05:26:31,000
We've performed 19 recruitment of exempt staff and engages in significant outreach, perform the county's drug testing function.

2965
05:26:31,000 --> 05:26:44,000
And conducted recruitment and outreach plans for all county employment opportunities as well as facility pre-employment screening, including drug physical background and community outreach.

2966
05:26:44,000 --> 05:26:52,000
And I mentioned our presence at the hospital portion of our team is stationed the recruitment team is stationed at the hospital.

2967
05:26:53,000 --> 05:26:58,000
And I would like to recognize their achievement.

2968
05:26:58,000 --> 05:27:06,000
The team that San Joaquin General Hospital has been successful in reducing the nursing vacancy rate down to less than 5% at the hospital.

2969
05:27:06,000 --> 05:27:21,000
It's at its lowest point in years and I'm very proud of the accomplishment the recruitment team at the hospital has facilitated the higher of 134 nurses in the past fiscal year up 34% from the prior year.

2970
05:27:21,000 --> 05:27:26,000
So we are doing a good job of delivering nurses at the hospital.

2971
05:27:26,000 --> 05:27:36,000
Obviously, I would be remiss if I did not note the board support for our negotiations with CNA, which I'm sure in part led to improving our ability to recruit.

2972
05:27:36,000 --> 05:27:44,000
But it is a team effort and we have to take advantage of all of those opportunities to recruit employees.

2973
05:27:45,000 --> 05:27:52,000
In terms of recruitment activity, here's just a quick slide in terms of some of the information that's available.

2974
05:27:52,000 --> 05:27:58,000
We have recruits are up at 500 and 8 applications are down at 21,000.

2975
05:27:58,000 --> 05:28:05,000
I think that's a reflection of our labor market, which is a little tighter than it has been historically.

2976
05:28:05,000 --> 05:28:14,000
And so we're doing more recruitment, so actually hiring fewer and we're seeing fewer applications filed in those recruitment.

2977
05:28:14,000 --> 05:28:19,000
We did have the opportunity to hire 792 employees in the last fiscal year.

2978
05:28:19,000 --> 05:28:28,000
And as I pointed out to you in a memorandum a few months ago, while we hired about 800 employees, we also had about 600 employees leave us.

2979
05:28:28,000 --> 05:28:33,000
So we had a net gain of 200 employees in that fiscal year.

2980
05:28:33,000 --> 05:28:35,000
That's actually a very good number for us.

2981
05:28:35,000 --> 05:28:44,000
We've begun to chip away at the number of vacancies that are now down to 674.

2982
05:28:44,000 --> 05:28:48,000
Innovations and initiatives in the recruitment area.

2983
05:28:48,000 --> 05:28:55,000
You've already heard today some of the fruits of the Google Innovation Project that we all participated in.

2984
05:28:55,000 --> 05:28:57,000
It is well in the human resources department.

2985
05:28:57,000 --> 05:29:03,000
And one of the items we focus on was our civil service rule revisions, which are underway currently.

2986
05:29:03,000 --> 05:29:09,000
They've been drafted, cleared by county council and where in the process of negotiating them with SCIU.

2987
05:29:09,000 --> 05:29:17,000
We hope that they will provide substantial relief in terms of the time limits and the other constraints we have in terms of recruiting employees.

2988
05:29:17,000 --> 05:29:24,000
Really move us into the 21st century and allow us to recruit with a lot more efficiency.

2989
05:29:24,000 --> 05:29:27,000
Pre-employment background program.

2990
05:29:27,000 --> 05:29:34,000
We've already done the pre-employment drug testing program where you have a pre-employment background program and development.

2991
05:29:34,000 --> 05:29:41,000
Also the physical evaluation program that we have for new hires is also being changed significantly.

2992
05:29:41,000 --> 05:29:49,000
These are issues where legal changes over time have been pretty rapid and we need to make sure that our programs are legally compliant.

2993
05:29:49,000 --> 05:29:59,000
Also the branding function the SJC jobs are trying to capitalize on our SJC engaged program and our presence in the community.

2994
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:06,800
Our social media presence, we are currently participating in LinkedIn as well as careers in government

2995
05:30:06,800 --> 05:30:16,000
and careers in government really provides us a pathway into having a Facebook and Twitter presence

2996
05:30:16,000 --> 05:30:20,520
and we're currently strategizing to increase our exposure on Facebook and Twitter through

2997
05:30:20,520 --> 05:30:26,800
our own Facebook and Twitter pages that we're developing in-house. In terms of community

2998
05:30:26,800 --> 05:30:33,800
outreach, we have a community outreach component to all of the recruitment that we do and we try

2999
05:30:33,800 --> 05:30:43,800
to stay in sync with the EEO objectives of the county. Also with regard to technology recruiting and testing,

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05:30:43,800 --> 05:30:52,300
we've undergone several updates in the Job Apps program that we utilize to online recruit as well as providing

3001
05:30:52,300 --> 05:30:59,300
mobile friendly viewing of the job application process for candidates, pursuing online testing.

3002
05:30:59,300 --> 05:31:05,300
That's one of the largest draws of resources that we have in terms of staging large testing sessions

3003
05:31:05,300 --> 05:31:12,300
and proctoring the exams, dealing with the scoring, et cetera. Online testing would be a huge leap forward

3004
05:31:12,300 --> 05:31:19,300
and we are moving forward in that area as well. Some of the additional technology we're working with

3005
05:31:19,300 --> 05:31:26,300
to increase the searchability of the database that we have material file by the applicants,

3006
05:31:26,300 --> 05:31:32,300
resiming uplating and uploading in text communications with applicants.

3007
05:31:32,300 --> 05:31:38,300
The next slide is about the Civil Service Commission, by virtue of the fact that I'm the HR Director,

3008
05:31:38,300 --> 05:31:46,300
I serve as the Secretary to the Civil Service Commission. The Commission is five member body appointed by this board.

3009
05:31:47,300 --> 05:31:54,300
The board has adopted the original rules of this Commission back in 1964. They've been amended a number of times since.

3010
05:31:54,300 --> 05:32:01,300
We are trying to amend them again currently. The Civil Service system has charged with maintaining the merit system

3011
05:32:01,300 --> 05:32:09,300
to assure that only a person's ability to do the job can be considered in making decisions regarding the hiring and promotion of employees.

3012
05:32:10,300 --> 05:32:15,300
That is our guiding principle in terms of enforcing the merit system.

3013
05:32:15,300 --> 05:32:22,300
And some of the functions you can see, we also provide logistical and clerical support to the Commission.

3014
05:32:22,300 --> 05:32:27,300
And some of their activities during the last fiscal year include the extensions of eligible list.

3015
05:32:27,300 --> 05:32:32,300
Our eligible list do normally expire. However, under certain circumstances they can be extended.

3016
05:32:32,300 --> 05:32:36,300
They also granted rule of the list recruitment in nine cases.

3017
05:32:36,300 --> 05:32:46,300
16 selective recruitment, which involve kind of a narrowing of the specifications for a classification to meet the departments specific need.

3018
05:32:46,300 --> 05:33:00,300
Amending class specs adopting them as well as 10 classification studies to determine if employees in fact are properly classified based on the work that they're performing.

3019
05:33:00,300 --> 05:33:09,300
Position control led by Josie Freeman, our position control coordinator, just two position control technicians and one support staff.

3020
05:33:09,300 --> 05:33:20,300
This position, this team within human resources is tasked with ensuring consistency between the hiring and termination of employees in the county budget was 7,000 employees.

3021
05:33:20,300 --> 05:33:26,300
Keeping track of all of them making certain that they all have a budget allocation that they're charged against.

3022
05:33:26,300 --> 05:33:37,300
And obviously processing thousands of personnel actions that go along each year you can see from the brief statistical snapshot here, 83 hundred personnel actions.

3023
05:33:37,300 --> 05:33:56,300
17 hundred staff increases a large number of coal on equity increases as well as keeping track on employee service and providing the service awards for the program that of course we presented here before the board.

3024
05:33:56,300 --> 05:34:03,300
The next team I'd like to talk about is employee benefits that team is led by Tammy Matusko.

3025
05:34:03,300 --> 05:34:17,300
Tammy is the employee benefits manager. She's supported by one management analyst three, one personnel analyst, one office assistant specialist and two senior office assistants.

3026
05:34:17,300 --> 05:34:23,300
Managing the county's health programs including medical dental and vision plans for actors and retirees and their eligible dependents.

3027
05:34:23,300 --> 05:34:32,300
This includes the administration of the county's self-insured plans, which is I'm sure you can understand where basically.

3028
05:34:32,300 --> 05:34:47,300
Operating what amounts to a health insurance program and a dental insurance program within the county on a self-insured basis as well as I'll get to in a few minutes our workers compensation program.

3029
05:34:47,300 --> 05:34:57,300
The functions of this group are to ensure compliance with all health related requirements and mandates and oversee the counties deferred compensation programs.

3030
05:34:57,300 --> 05:35:26,300
Some of the highlights through 1617 involved 17,000 benefit events obviously much of that is a function of the open enrollment process and we have been engaged in a complete and thorough evaluation of all existing vendor contracts and have begun the process of requiring requests for proposals from those contracts that have been in place for a number of years.

3031
05:35:27,300 --> 05:35:33,300
Just a couple of short factual slides in the benefits area.

3032
05:35:33,300 --> 05:35:40,300
Medical plan options selected by our active employees you can see 59% of them have selected Kaiser.

3033
05:35:40,300 --> 05:35:46,300
That's a fully insured product all we do for Kaiser's pay a premium.

3034
05:35:46,300 --> 05:35:56,300
And 27% of our employees that's a total of the remaining employees are enrolled in some version of our self-insured plan.

3035
05:35:56,300 --> 05:36:02,300
I was actually surprised to discover the 14% of our employees actually opt out of our insurance coverage.

3036
05:36:02,300 --> 05:36:05,300
That's a pretty significant number actually.

3037
05:36:05,300 --> 05:36:25,300
The next slide tells the same story but it's with respect to retirees as you can see the retirees are even more heavily associated with Kaiser and that 21% are in our self-insured county managed care plans and 12% in health net.

3038
05:36:25,300 --> 05:36:40,300
That health net group, principally, involves employees who are retirees rather who do not live in the region and aren't able to utilize some of the other plans that we have that are available.

3039
05:36:40,300 --> 05:36:49,300
The Equal Employment Office team is led by John Backeye, he's the program manager. He's supported by one analyst and one office specialist.

3040
05:36:49,300 --> 05:36:58,300
This team provides services countywide through the primary programs of investigation consultation in support workforce compliance training.

3041
05:36:58,300 --> 05:37:06,300
Supporting EEO advisory committee and advisory support or excuse me administrative support to other county departments.

3042
05:37:06,300 --> 05:37:11,300
You can see the very significant number of compliance trainings, 97 and all.

3043
05:37:11,300 --> 05:37:17,300
That involves significantly discrimination and harassment prevention for managers and supervisors.

3044
05:37:17,300 --> 05:37:29,300
We've incorporated the new legal obligations that we have in terms of abusive conduct workplace bullying and those have been included in the trainings that you see identified above.

3045
05:37:29,300 --> 05:37:39,300
The county or the Equal Employment Office also hosted last year's annual diversity luncheon, which was attended by 360 county employees.

3046
05:37:39,300 --> 05:37:49,300
I'm proud to say we are about to on Thursday host the 20th annual annual diversity luncheon supported by human resources.

3047
05:37:49,300 --> 05:38:06,300
We have sold out. We have over 400 employees and guests who are going to be joining us and we're very excited about that event celebrating its 20th anniversary.

3048
05:38:06,300 --> 05:38:08,300
Risk management.

3049
05:38:08,300 --> 05:38:19,300
Slide by Tanya Moreno, Tanya is the safety and risk manager. She's supported by one safety officer, one disability management coordinator, two risk analysts and three support staff.

3050
05:38:19,300 --> 05:38:24,300
Risk management includes our safety and disability management programs.

3051
05:38:24,300 --> 05:38:33,300
You can see in terms of employee education must like much like the EEO office risk provides significant training to employees.

3052
05:38:33,300 --> 05:38:48,300
In a variety of different areas workplace violence, driving heat stress training risk management functions close to 2,500 employees receive training from that group this past year.

3053
05:38:48,300 --> 05:38:58,300
And just as an example I mentioned earlier about our self-insured products that we offered to our employees is insurance. We're also self-insured for workers compensation.

3054
05:38:58,300 --> 05:39:07,300
This is a graph which depicts our workers compensation claims from 2019 to present.

3055
05:39:07,300 --> 05:39:15,300
And you can see that it's really a very steady number. We haven't seen a significant increase in those over time.

3056
05:39:15,300 --> 05:39:31,300
If you look at the total payments, however, 1617 is what appears to be an abnormally low number, however, I'm advised that the costs that we've incurred in the first quarter of 1718 have been a little above a regular quarter.

3057
05:39:31,300 --> 05:39:41,300
So we see some evening out of that expense, and we'll certainly keep an eye on that number as the year goes by.

3058
05:39:41,300 --> 05:39:52,300
Labor Relations, it's led by James Rivera, Principal Employee Relations analyst, James Porter by an employee relations analyst, three and one office assistant specialist.

3059
05:39:52,300 --> 05:39:57,300
This group achieves the county's fiscal objectives through the collective bargaining process.

3060
05:39:57,300 --> 05:40:09,300
Promote professional relations with employee organizations, ensure compliance with negotiated MOUs and ensure consistent due process in the handling of employee discipline.

3061
05:40:09,300 --> 05:40:20,300
You can see in this past year we successfully negotiated nine MOUs and handled, of course, the grievances and complaints filed with the various departments.

3062
05:40:20,300 --> 05:40:30,300
The next slide is really captures where we are at this moment in terms of our memorandum of understanding with various bargaining units.

3063
05:40:30,300 --> 05:40:38,300
Units who have a current MOU are on the left, they represent 89 percent of our employees currently being under contract.

3064
05:40:38,300 --> 05:40:47,300
The group on the groups on the right represent those who are with an expired MOU and they represent 11 percent of our employment employees.

3065
05:40:48,300 --> 05:40:52,300
I would also like to take note of during the last fiscal year.

3066
05:40:52,300 --> 05:41:02,300
We also experienced a strike with SCIU and protractive negotiations resulting in resulting in a collective bargaining agreement.

3067
05:41:02,300 --> 05:41:05,300
I'm going to thank the board for your support during that period.

3068
05:41:05,300 --> 05:41:14,300
And I also want to note that we would appear that we have done that without really damaging our relationship with the union and its members.

3069
05:41:14,300 --> 05:41:19,300
We have a very low total of current pending grievances and complaints.

3070
05:41:19,300 --> 05:41:22,300
We have not seen much of a reaction to the agreement.

3071
05:41:22,300 --> 05:41:28,300
The agreement was ultimately ratified by I believe 85 or 90 percent of the employees involved.

3072
05:41:28,300 --> 05:41:33,300
So we thought that was quite a successful negotiation.

3073
05:41:33,300 --> 05:41:41,300
Now to discuss the SJC engaged program going to turn the presentation over to Annie Burke.

3074
05:41:41,300 --> 05:41:48,300
Hello happy to be before you again. Again, I'm Annie Burke and in February it'll be two years for me with Sam Waking County.

3075
05:41:48,300 --> 05:41:51,300
It's my first job in a government organization.

3076
05:41:51,300 --> 05:41:56,300
So I've been doing a lot of learning, but I'm just really happy to have this position.

3077
05:41:56,300 --> 05:42:01,300
It's been a thrill for me because I believe out of the 770 employees that HR support.

3078
05:42:01,300 --> 05:42:05,300
I probably have the best, most fun position within the county.

3079
05:42:05,300 --> 05:42:10,300
Having said that, I'm learning that government work sometimes is thankless work.

3080
05:42:10,300 --> 05:42:15,300
So between homicide investigation and landfill operators, zookeepers, there's a lot going on.

3081
05:42:15,300 --> 05:42:19,300
But an opportunity that we have to use a word that was used earlier.

3082
05:42:19,300 --> 05:42:22,300
We are the pioneers with SJC engaged.

3083
05:42:22,300 --> 05:42:27,300
This is a program that is not being done in government anywhere in our nation from what I understand.

3084
05:42:27,300 --> 05:42:31,300
And it's something that's been missing, that's getting us a lot of attention and traction.

3085
05:42:31,300 --> 05:42:41,300
So to remind you, SJC engaged is a program that's trying to take us from just being the largest employer to being the best employer in the area.

3086
05:42:41,300 --> 05:42:45,300
And what that means is in our slogan of greatness grows here.

3087
05:42:45,300 --> 05:42:50,300
It's reflecting our people are growing here. Employees are growing here. They're growing professionally.

3088
05:42:50,300 --> 05:42:52,300
And they're growing personally.

3089
05:42:52,300 --> 05:42:59,300
So I found it quite genius that my position blends all of our training opportunities and paths to promotion and professional development.

3090
05:42:59,300 --> 05:43:06,300
But it also includes our wellness initiatives in the beginning of a top-notch best in breed wellness program.

3091
05:43:06,300 --> 05:43:09,300
To kind of show you some general categories of what we're working on.

3092
05:43:09,300 --> 05:43:10,300
We've been very busy.

3093
05:43:10,300 --> 05:43:15,300
We actually just officially launched this program to employees at the end of August.

3094
05:43:16,300 --> 05:43:21,300
So we've been in their minds and in their conversations for about two months.

3095
05:43:21,300 --> 05:43:26,300
And we've already seen great results from kind of the things behind the scenes that we were working on.

3096
05:43:26,300 --> 05:43:31,300
So to capture some of those initiatives, we launched our Employee website.

3097
05:43:31,300 --> 05:43:33,300
Hopefully you've all had a chance to see that.

3098
05:43:33,300 --> 05:43:36,300
It's www. SJC engaged.com.

3099
05:43:36,300 --> 05:43:44,300
And this site is very innovative and that it is a hub for our employees and their families that purely highlights the good things available to them.

3100
05:43:44,300 --> 05:43:50,300
There are resources to our online course catalog where we've expanded all of our training opportunities.

3101
05:43:50,300 --> 05:43:52,300
They can sort by different topics.

3102
05:43:52,300 --> 05:43:56,300
There's also resources there in terms of healthy eating and blogs.

3103
05:43:56,300 --> 05:44:01,300
There's resources for the media about what a great employer the county is.

3104
05:44:01,300 --> 05:44:04,300
All kinds of great things happening on our website.

3105
05:44:04,300 --> 05:44:08,300
Regarding wellness offerings, which is a key component of my initiative.

3106
05:44:09,300 --> 05:44:12,300
We have some very.

3107
05:44:12,300 --> 05:44:18,300
Noteworthy things that we're going to be doing differently than other counties, which is we are utilizing our internal public health group.

3108
05:44:18,300 --> 05:44:22,300
So we're taking advantage of the resources we have just among our staff.

3109
05:44:22,300 --> 05:44:29,300
With that next week we'll be launching a program for pre-diabetic employees where they will have the support of the public health department.

3110
05:44:29,300 --> 05:44:35,300
To have a support for a year to change their status from being pre-diabetic to not being pre-diabetic.

3111
05:44:35,300 --> 05:44:39,300
So cool things like that we also have weight watchers on site and we're expanding that.

3112
05:44:39,300 --> 05:44:47,300
And other things that will directly target the wellness opportunities our employees have, which we then know will impact our culture will impact our health savings.

3113
05:44:47,300 --> 05:44:51,300
And I'm sure you know that lots of research shows that's an important initiative for us.

3114
05:44:51,300 --> 05:44:56,300
Another component I'm focused on is the exposure of our employee assistance program.

3115
05:44:56,300 --> 05:45:00,300
It's a great benefit available to our employees 24 hours a day.

3116
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:25,000
7 days a week, and to their families. And with that, we found that not all of the employees were aware of it and were utilizing it. So we're doing a great job of seeing an increase of that resource. Again, when you think of the work that county employees are doing and how taxing that can be, it's important that they have kind of a non-biased third party person to reach out to for additional support when they, you know, can't need those needs through HR directly.

3117
05:45:25,000 --> 05:45:41,000
We also have a unique situation with our AAP that we discovered, which is they have a ton of courses there willing to provide free of charge to our employees. So whereas we have our typical compliance courses, sexual harassment and a like, we now have courses that just benefit the individual.

3118
05:45:41,000 --> 05:45:52,000
So coping with depression during the holidays or other things that are wellness related, we're now not paying for but have been able to offer to our employees through our AAP. So that's very exciting.

3119
05:45:52,000 --> 05:45:57,000
Because of you and your support, we were able to launch the perks program through perks that work.

3120
05:45:57,000 --> 05:46:07,000
Again, we just launched at the end of August, not even two months. We've seen 16 over 1,600 employees sign up and participate in over $50,000 saved.

3121
05:46:07,000 --> 05:46:14,000
Just anecdotally, the popular deal. We had a Microsoft office package flying off the shelves. It's typically $300.

3122
05:46:14,000 --> 05:46:25,000
County employees were able to get that for $9.95. Great deals on there, people of the buzz is happening and we're really seeing a return on that support. So thank you for that.

3123
05:46:25,000 --> 05:46:38,000
Part of the greatness growth here is allowing for leadership development and at different levels. So a fortunate aspect of my job is I'm able to work directly with departments and tailor leadership programs to their needs.

3124
05:46:38,000 --> 05:46:45,000
Examples of BWe've had two leadership development programs successful at department of child support services for entry-level employees.

3125
05:46:45,000 --> 05:46:50,000
We're in the process of launching an executive development level program at public works.

3126
05:46:50,000 --> 05:47:00,000
And we are strategizing with our hospital to potentially take 100 leaders through a customized manager leadership program that will last them in year.

3127
05:47:01,000 --> 05:47:10,000
So training opportunities. We have new courses as I mentioned. We have higher frequency. We're at listening to our employees. Some of them don't like to park downtown for training.

3128
05:47:10,000 --> 05:47:22,000
So we're highlighting beautiful buildings like the Ag Center. We're utilizing our nice classrooms out at the parks. So we're having higher frequency more locations more topics. Again, showing them that they can tailor their growth.

3129
05:47:23,000 --> 05:47:30,000
In terms of community partnerships, this plays in a big way. We're now able to go to the community and say we're able to offer discounts to our employees.

3130
05:47:30,000 --> 05:47:35,000
Would you like to partner with the county? Would you like us to highlight your business and offer them a discount?

3131
05:47:35,000 --> 05:47:41,000
In addition to that, we have a focus on partnering with schools and universities. So we're expanding our internship program.

3132
05:47:41,000 --> 05:47:47,000
We're participating in career fairs and turn fairs and seeing great results and interest from local students.

3133
05:47:47,000 --> 05:47:57,000
And then also in terms of community partnerships which segues to the next component is we're seeing great results with local events and people wanting the county employees to participate in their events.

3134
05:47:57,000 --> 05:48:00,000
As an example, most recently we had our hockey night.

3135
05:48:00,000 --> 05:48:03,000
That was a lot of fun. We had employees writing the Zamboni.

3136
05:48:03,000 --> 05:48:07,000
Supervisor Elliott had the pleasure of dropping a hockey puck on the ice.

3137
05:48:07,000 --> 05:48:12,000
Great time. Great turnout from employees. And that's really how you begin to change the culture.

3138
05:48:12,000 --> 05:48:19,000
And so we're seeing a lot of excitement and joy throughout employees and their families and seeing the support that we were hoping for.

3139
05:48:19,000 --> 05:48:22,000
With that again, it's a pleasure to be on this task.

3140
05:48:22,000 --> 05:48:32,000
We are doing our best to make sure that people know that they can grow here in the county personally, professionally, and that human resources above all wants them to hear the word resource.

3141
05:48:32,000 --> 05:48:35,000
And that's really what we're striving for.

3142
05:48:35,000 --> 05:48:38,000
And I'll give it back to Ted for questions.

3143
05:48:38,000 --> 05:48:48,000
Thank you, Amy. Well, it's my privilege to lead this group of professionals in providing human resources services for the entire county.

3144
05:48:48,000 --> 05:48:55,000
I want to thank the board for your support that I've had during my time here.

3145
05:48:55,000 --> 05:49:01,000
And ask if you have any questions.

3146
05:49:02,000 --> 05:49:05,000
I got a couple. All right.

3147
05:49:05,000 --> 05:49:12,000
In your life cycle, in regards to hiring employees and going through the other way of separation.

3148
05:49:12,000 --> 05:49:17,000
And just what they just touched upon at regards to your leadership programs.

3149
05:49:17,000 --> 05:49:24,000
It would seem to me that maybe it's just assumed.

3150
05:49:24,000 --> 05:49:37,000
But it would seem that although not all employees would be interested, but some employees would be interested in promotion or, you know, development into different classifications, maybe in different departments.

3151
05:49:37,000 --> 05:49:53,000
So I guess one of the things that I would envision and obviously Amy's touched upon is the development of employees at whatever level to give them opportunities to grow to find other ways to.

3152
05:49:53,000 --> 05:50:00,000
In enhanced their interest in their commitment to the county, et cetera, because you do talk about retention, which sometimes.

3153
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:11,000
Employees just get tired of the same old same home, and they decide to go somewhere else when we certainly have a broad range of opportunities through the variety of departments that currently exist.

3154
05:50:11,000 --> 05:50:14,000
So just just a comment.

3155
05:50:14,000 --> 05:50:21,000
If I just ask Amy to respond in terms of where we are with our training program in our catalog.

3156
05:50:22,000 --> 05:50:27,000
And I can't do that, but I really want to tell you about something cool happening on our website, because I agree with you.

3157
05:50:27,000 --> 05:50:33,000
Some people get burned out in the same role for a long time, and they might not realize the opportunity to their employer provides.

3158
05:50:33,000 --> 05:50:37,000
They don't know about all the different departments, how many opportunities are within the county.

3159
05:50:37,000 --> 05:50:47,000
And I view that as part of our part of our role, we said we, you know, we recruit people, but my job is kind of to re-recruit them and make sure they know that the opportunities will always be here.

3160
05:50:47,000 --> 05:50:51,000
But we're going to be able to do that through our website is just highlight what's happening at different departments.

3161
05:50:51,000 --> 05:50:56,000
Not everybody knows that the zoo is included in county or what weights and measures even means.

3162
05:50:56,000 --> 05:51:00,000
So just explaining and really highlighting us as one united employer.

3163
05:51:00,000 --> 05:51:04,000
I think we'll broaden people's perspectives to growth opportunity.

3164
05:51:04,000 --> 05:51:13,000
And even these presentations coming before the board of what different departments do, maybe having an opportunity for general employees to understand what the employer can offer.

3165
05:51:13,000 --> 05:51:22,000
And with training and the catalog, we are paying attention to making sure that the opportunities and promotions were preparing people for that.

3166
05:51:22,000 --> 05:51:29,000
That they have the skills to re-apply to interview, you know those kinds of things, and that there are two paths to promotion.

3167
05:51:29,000 --> 05:51:30,000
Okay.

3168
05:51:30,000 --> 05:51:31,000
Okay.

3169
05:51:31,000 --> 05:51:35,000
I find in my own life, I have about a three year attention span.

3170
05:51:36,000 --> 05:51:40,000
Fortunately, this job every day is a new adventure, so I don't get bored.

3171
05:51:40,000 --> 05:51:45,000
The other, in regards to the number of positive drug tests.

3172
05:51:45,000 --> 05:51:49,000
What's happening to those employees that are identified as positive?

3173
05:51:49,000 --> 05:51:52,000
Well, they aren't employees, they're candidates.

3174
05:51:52,000 --> 05:51:54,000
They don't become our employees.

3175
05:51:54,000 --> 05:52:01,000
And we have had a small number of positive drug tests, both in the random drug testing,

3176
05:52:01,000 --> 05:52:07,000
the sun primarily at public works, because of the heavy equipment machinery involved.

3177
05:52:07,000 --> 05:52:13,000
But you can see that the drug testing, you get really more of the no-shows,

3178
05:52:13,000 --> 05:52:16,000
are also really weak to say to them a positive test.

3179
05:52:16,000 --> 05:52:18,000
But no those folks are never higher.

3180
05:52:18,000 --> 05:52:19,000
Okay.

3181
05:52:19,000 --> 05:52:20,000
That's good to hear.

3182
05:52:20,000 --> 05:52:24,000
On the 674 vacancies, does that include the hospital?

3183
05:52:24,000 --> 05:52:25,000
Yes.

3184
05:52:25,000 --> 05:52:26,000
Okay.

3185
05:52:26,000 --> 05:52:30,000
Do you have any idea how many vacancies you're at the hospital itself?

3186
05:52:31,000 --> 05:52:32,000
No.

3187
05:52:32,000 --> 05:52:34,000
But I'm going to look to my staff.

3188
05:52:40,000 --> 05:52:41,000
Well, that's okay.

3189
05:52:41,000 --> 05:52:47,000
I attended a conference yesterday, which was health care in the county.

3190
05:52:47,000 --> 05:52:52,000
And one of the issues that we're working on is trying to identify vacancies,

3191
05:52:52,000 --> 05:52:56,000
which I at least in some of the material provided.

3192
05:52:56,000 --> 05:53:02,000
They had talked to HR directors in most health care facilities, hospitals, etc.

3193
05:53:02,000 --> 05:53:06,000
And they had a listing of a variety of positions.

3194
05:53:06,000 --> 05:53:10,000
Obviously, nursing was about 380 vacancies currently.

3195
05:53:10,000 --> 05:53:12,000
I should say that higher is per year.

3196
05:53:12,000 --> 05:53:18,000
And so I was just curious as far as the hospital, because I think it's important that we,

3197
05:53:18,000 --> 05:53:22,000
with this particular group, we're working with the educational institutions,

3198
05:53:22,000 --> 05:53:29,000
the state and health colleagues to develop curriculum that would allow our residents

3199
05:53:29,000 --> 05:53:34,000
to get these degrees and certificates and be higher here locally as opposed to having

3200
05:53:34,000 --> 05:53:37,000
to go outside as you mentioned recruitment.

3201
05:53:37,000 --> 05:53:46,000
And so I would hope that, you know, as this particular group evolves that we're able to,

3202
05:53:46,000 --> 05:53:52,000
obviously, utilize the hospital as part of the participants,

3203
05:53:52,000 --> 05:53:55,000
including all the seven hospitals.

3204
05:53:55,000 --> 05:54:03,000
And anyway, it's an interesting group, because we had education, for example,

3205
05:54:03,000 --> 05:54:12,000
that the President of Delta College, Matthew, was there and, in fact,

3206
05:54:12,000 --> 05:54:19,000
a self-inherent and the CEO of Lodine Memorial, or kind of the executive board of this.

3207
05:54:19,000 --> 05:54:23,000
So it's an opportunity really to look into what's happening.

3208
05:54:23,000 --> 05:54:30,000
We all talked about studies that say we need nurses, but there's nothing specific or definitive to be local,

3209
05:54:30,000 --> 05:54:32,000
and this is what we're working on.

3210
05:54:32,000 --> 05:54:38,000
Well, I'm happy to say that HR was represented at that conference.

3211
05:54:38,000 --> 05:54:40,000
That's a very valuable conference.

3212
05:54:40,000 --> 05:54:43,000
We've been there over the years on a number of occasions.

3213
05:54:43,000 --> 05:54:47,000
And it's really a, it's a good resource in our community.

3214
05:54:47,000 --> 05:54:48,000
Well, I'll be honest with you.

3215
05:54:48,000 --> 05:54:53,000
I think the real value of that particular group is, I think,

3216
05:54:53,000 --> 05:54:56,000
are close to 45 or 50 participants.

3217
05:54:56,000 --> 05:55:03,000
As I see it, it is probably a pilot and regards to future hiring and other professions,

3218
05:55:03,000 --> 05:55:08,000
because one of the things that I find in my travels is that, you know,

3219
05:55:08,000 --> 05:55:13,000
we're short and a lot of areas, skill workers, you know,

3220
05:55:13,000 --> 05:55:18,000
large percentage of our construction skill workers are working the Bay Area.

3221
05:55:18,000 --> 05:55:24,000
And yet we have programs here that even in our high schools,

3222
05:55:24,000 --> 05:55:30,000
that they're small numbers that are teaching our youth in high school and getting certificates

3223
05:55:30,000 --> 05:55:35,000
of medical assistant, construction trades, welding, things like that.

3224
05:55:35,000 --> 05:55:37,000
And I think we really need to expand that.

3225
05:55:37,000 --> 05:55:41,000
But what I envision is, as you started your presentation,

3226
05:55:41,000 --> 05:55:43,000
as the county being the largest employer.

3227
05:55:43,000 --> 05:55:45,000
And then you mentioned also internships.

3228
05:55:45,000 --> 05:55:49,000
It would seem to me that we ought to be able to work with, with our,

3229
05:55:49,000 --> 05:55:53,000
especially our high schools, maybe even middle schools,

3230
05:55:53,000 --> 05:55:58,000
but certainly in high schools and as, as a government day tomorrow,

3231
05:55:58,000 --> 05:56:02,000
and to expose them to the opportunities at an early age,

3232
05:56:02,000 --> 05:56:07,000
because let's face it whether they end up in that particular field or not.

3233
05:56:07,000 --> 05:56:12,000
If we can capture them and motivate them while they're in high school in the freshman year

3234
05:56:12,000 --> 05:56:16,000
to go through high school and stay in school, because they have a vision.

3235
05:56:16,000 --> 05:56:20,000
I want to be an architect from the eighth grade, obviously, I'm not one.

3236
05:56:20,000 --> 05:56:26,000
But by point is, is it kind of motive in me through at least first two and a half years of high school.

3237
05:56:26,000 --> 05:56:32,000
So my point is, I think we, as an employer, have a great opportunity,

3238
05:56:32,000 --> 05:56:37,000
especially with the variety of jobs that are available in disciplines.

3239
05:56:37,000 --> 05:56:44,000
So it would seem like we would be a major contributor in regards to these particular programs

3240
05:56:44,000 --> 05:56:47,000
of training, or youth, and getting them.

3241
05:56:47,000 --> 05:56:51,000
And that's face it through internships, especially maybe hiring them is counting employees,

3242
05:56:51,000 --> 05:56:53,000
that would be my goal.

3243
05:56:53,000 --> 05:56:56,000
Well, super easy on it.

3244
05:56:56,000 --> 05:56:58,000
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3245
05:56:58,000 --> 05:57:00,000
Follow along those lines.

3246
05:57:00,000 --> 05:57:06,000
What kind of internship program do we have in addition to our youth and government?

3247
05:57:06,000 --> 05:57:08,000
Specifically for high school.

3248
05:57:08,000 --> 05:57:09,000
Okay.

3249
05:57:09,000 --> 05:57:10,000
Okay.

3250
05:57:10,000 --> 05:57:14,000
Well, in terms of the internship program, the formal program that we've said is your council

3251
05:57:14,000 --> 05:57:18,000
and really formula, formulated, and then advertised local universities.

3252
05:57:18,000 --> 05:57:23,000
It's geared towards college students that are typically juniors and seniors,

3253
05:57:23,000 --> 05:57:25,000
and they're unpaid internships.

3254
05:57:25,000 --> 05:57:30,000
So we've found a lot of these are credit bearing internships that they need to graduate,

3255
05:57:30,000 --> 05:57:34,000
but also that's when they've kind of identified a key focus,

3256
05:57:34,000 --> 05:57:37,000
and so they're going to benefit the most from exposure to those jobs.

3257
05:57:37,000 --> 05:57:40,000
And we have seen a lot of excitement around that.

3258
05:57:40,000 --> 05:57:44,000
With high school students, something that we're trying to move towards is there.

3259
05:57:44,000 --> 05:57:46,000
Most high schools have their own career days.

3260
05:57:46,000 --> 05:57:49,000
And I don't know that we've been that engaged or active in those in the past.

3261
05:57:49,000 --> 05:57:51,000
So working to build relationships with our local high schools,

3262
05:57:51,000 --> 05:57:54,000
that when they go to do those things they invite us and include us.

3263
05:57:54,000 --> 05:57:57,000
But in terms of internships as it currently stands,

3264
05:57:57,000 --> 05:57:59,000
we haven't been focused on the high school level,

3265
05:57:59,000 --> 05:58:03,000
but rather the junior and senior level of our local universities.

3266
05:58:03,000 --> 05:58:04,000
Okay.

3267
05:58:04,000 --> 05:58:07,000
I think that's wonderful that we're doing that.

3268
05:58:07,000 --> 05:58:12,000
But also I think we could reach out to some of the high schools as well.

3269
05:58:12,000 --> 05:58:16,000
I know over in Tracy, they have a higher me first program.

3270
05:58:16,000 --> 05:58:20,000
I'm sure John Solis has perhaps talked to you about that.

3271
05:58:20,000 --> 05:58:26,000
But one of the things that goes on there is that they recruit local businesses

3272
05:58:26,000 --> 05:58:30,000
to provide some internship opportunities for high school students,

3273
05:58:30,000 --> 05:58:33,000
particularly the juniors and seniors there.

3274
05:58:33,000 --> 05:58:38,000
So if they can get an idea of just what opportunities are available right there near home,

3275
05:58:38,000 --> 05:58:41,000
so that when they've completed their education,

3276
05:58:41,000 --> 05:58:46,000
if they did happen to go out of county or out of state to get it,

3277
05:58:46,000 --> 05:58:48,000
they'll have a better idea of what they can come back to.

3278
05:58:48,000 --> 05:58:57,000
So I think we could make some money investing in a little bit of time to look at what might be available for internships for high school as well.

3279
05:58:58,000 --> 05:59:06,000
Also, any idea of what percentage of participation there is on our county portal there

3280
05:59:06,000 --> 05:59:09,000
and the Indian gauge application.

3281
05:59:09,000 --> 05:59:12,000
I know there are a variety of programs on there.

3282
05:59:12,000 --> 05:59:13,000
Yes.

3283
05:59:13,000 --> 05:59:15,000
So will we have our course attendance?

3284
05:59:15,000 --> 05:59:17,000
So we have some in increase because of our frequency,

3285
05:59:17,000 --> 05:59:18,000
we're training more folks.

3286
05:59:18,000 --> 05:59:20,000
In terms of the engagement on the actual website,

3287
05:59:20,000 --> 05:59:23,000
there's a ton of data in terms of clicks per page,

3288
05:59:23,000 --> 05:59:25,000
clicks per link, how long they hover,

3289
05:59:25,000 --> 05:59:27,000
there's stuff I'm still learning.

3290
05:59:27,000 --> 05:59:33,000
But I'm actually looking forward to returning to the board with an extensive kind of depiction of the true results that we're seeing.

3291
05:59:33,000 --> 05:59:37,000
So again, we're about two months after promotion here.

3292
05:59:37,000 --> 05:59:43,000
The best metrics that we have are attendance at the events we're putting on the discount site being used.

3293
05:59:43,000 --> 05:59:45,000
But in terms of the traffic through the website,

3294
05:59:45,000 --> 05:59:47,000
we're still building momentum.

3295
05:59:47,000 --> 05:59:50,000
In fact, I see these badges as I walk around downtown and I ask,

3296
05:59:50,000 --> 05:59:52,000
hey, have you heard about in the gauge yet?

3297
05:59:52,000 --> 05:59:55,000
And I'm still getting about a 50-50 yes or no.

3298
05:59:55,000 --> 05:59:57,000
So we're really in the promotion stage.

3299
05:59:57,000 --> 06:00:00,000
But a little further along, I'm really looking forward to.

3300
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:04,000
We're going back with some true data and results of the actual engagement.

3301
06:00:04,000 --> 06:00:09,000
Great. Well, I think it's important that we have programs like that for our county employees.

3302
06:00:09,000 --> 06:00:15,000
Because people are looking for opportunities to advance and prove their performance, move on into other things,

3303
06:00:15,000 --> 06:00:21,000
and just have opportunities to look at benefits offered by the county that they can enjoy in their free time.

3304
06:00:21,000 --> 06:00:26,000
Like that hockey night. That was a real, there was a lot of fun to drop that puck.

3305
06:00:27,000 --> 06:00:28,000
Thank you for coming.

3306
06:00:28,000 --> 06:00:30,000
At any rate, keep up the good work.

3307
06:00:30,000 --> 06:00:31,000
Thank you.

3308
06:00:33,000 --> 06:00:37,000
One of the things that, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, Amy.

3309
06:00:37,000 --> 06:00:44,000
But, you know, one of the things that I, I guess, view the county as, and I guess another,

3310
06:00:44,000 --> 06:00:51,000
endeavors that I've been involved in, but that's, despite of our size, I still see county as a team.

3311
06:00:51,000 --> 06:00:57,000
I'm not talking about, you know, a department, I'm talking about all departments collectively,

3312
06:00:57,000 --> 06:01:02,000
because what I've found, it's certainly through these presentations, you know, from the departments,

3313
06:01:02,000 --> 06:01:08,000
is that you oftentimes, as, as obviously, HR does, you serve a lot of departments,

3314
06:01:08,000 --> 06:01:14,000
and, and I would like to see as continue to work together, collaborate, get to know one another,

3315
06:01:14,000 --> 06:01:22,000
certainly work, I guess, cooperatively, or collaboratively, to make each department better,

3316
06:01:22,000 --> 06:01:25,000
by the assistance of another department than they have some ideas.

3317
06:01:25,000 --> 06:01:30,000
I always appreciate Jerry's, Jerry Becker's ideas when we talk about certain things.

3318
06:01:30,000 --> 06:01:37,000
So, again, I appreciate all the information provided, and I hope we can continue, especially with this engaged program,

3319
06:01:37,000 --> 06:01:44,000
and another programs that are available, that, that we really maximize the talent that we have,

3320
06:01:44,000 --> 06:01:53,000
and this county government, because, you know, let's face it, we have great staff in all levels,

3321
06:01:53,000 --> 06:02:00,000
and I would like to see whatever we can do to not only assist them to improve as obviously you're providing,

3322
06:02:00,000 --> 06:02:06,000
but certainly, when I work for the state, for example,

3323
06:02:06,000 --> 06:02:10,000
there were some bridging positions for lack of better term.

3324
06:02:10,000 --> 06:02:15,000
Where, for example, the, the clerical secretary of staff could go into an analyst position,

3325
06:02:15,000 --> 06:02:22,000
and, and one of my, uh, secretaries at the time, became a department head, you know, eventually.

3326
06:02:22,000 --> 06:02:30,000
So, she went, the whole route, my, my point is, is that, obviously, we have young individuals,

3327
06:02:30,000 --> 06:02:35,000
maybe new to the county, whatever, not age, but just by their tenure,

3328
06:02:35,000 --> 06:02:43,000
and I would like to see us continue to develop them and give them the opportunities to really grow and share and participate.

3329
06:02:43,000 --> 06:02:47,000
And, I think you're doing that, so I appreciate all your efforts.

3330
06:02:47,000 --> 06:02:52,000
With that, I appreciate, thanks all your staff, and certainly all that you do.

3331
06:02:52,000 --> 06:02:57,000
And, I always appreciate these, because I learned a lot more after you've made a presentation.

3332
06:02:57,000 --> 06:02:58,000
Thank you.

3333
06:02:58,000 --> 06:02:59,000
Thank you.

3334
06:02:59,000 --> 06:03:00,000
Thank you.

3335
06:03:00,000 --> 06:03:02,000
Okay.

3336
06:03:02,000 --> 06:03:12,000
So, without, I think we're, well, and, because I've got to meet in it for.

3337
06:03:12,000 --> 06:03:13,000
I think we made it.

3338
06:03:13,000 --> 06:03:14,000
Other words, we've got some comments.

3339
06:03:14,000 --> 06:03:22,000
So, anyway, we'll, uh, adjourn until November 7th at 9 a.m.

3340
06:03:22,000 --> 06:03:23,000
For adjourn.