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We are now into the last commission
meeting of the city

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today

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and we're going into recess for

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» and we're now open.

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Welcome everybody to Sam and Chief
Planning Commission September 1st. Here

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we go. As you may not have picked up on,
but we've been having some technical

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problems in chambers and we have a
couple times that weren't full

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participation by community. So to ensure
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otherwise we wanted to make sure
everything was okay.

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Um, as a result, however, I I didn't I
just pulled up thinking we were not

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going to come here from the health
foundation. How many people are here on

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health foundation? I was like, yeah,
I pulled out that was going to be

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20 minutes ago,
but now go forward. I left all my stuff

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on there on my website at home. So um
you guys will go to me take a 20 minute

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recess home get everything and come
right back so everyone okay

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move to reset meeting

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back here at um
how about let's call 2:30

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chart.

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This is the point of time.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the

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stand, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all
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of

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» Commissioner Korea,
>> Commissioner

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Commissioner
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» we have the pleasure of having our two
commissioners and I believe

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introduction Um, I'm actually going to
let both Nick Leget and Stephanie Korea

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um introduce themselves and give a
background and why they're why they're

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here. Why?

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» Hi, I'm Stephanie Korea.

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Hi, I'm Stephanie Korea and I was born
in Boston Hospital in Ballister a long

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time ago. Grew up in San
went away to college and a career and

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came back six years ago after about 45
years being away.

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And the reason that I joined is because
uh I and a few people in this audience

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have had the pleasure of seeing someone
in her glory days and I would humbly

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like to bring us back to that. I need to
tell show you something in um

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seven years ago we were in this
I mean 20 years ago the most beautiful

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villages and towns in California and I
just think wouldn't that be wonderful if

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we could have that honor again. Thank
you.

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or
contributed to the community short.

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» How you doing? My name is Nick Le. I've
been a resident of San for five years.

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Originally I'm from Seaside in Monterey,
California. Uh I come from a family. I'm

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third generation carpenter. Um I usually
do like residential homes and commercial

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buildings.
Um I'm here to help out and try to make

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this kind of functional.
>> Thank you.

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Every month at the planning commission
we set aside time to hear from members

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of items that are not otherwise
public

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agenda. It consisted of the aid of
posting for this meeting and then also

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the region meeting way back in June.

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» Move to approve agenda. Of

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course. Commissioner,
>> Commissioner Korea,

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» Commissioner Le,
>> Commissioner

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» I chair
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» motion pass

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tonight on the home
project

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and I think most of you are. So that's
the next item. It's item five. Informal

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projects to do an opportunity for the
applicant to come to the community and

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say this quickly online. What do you all
think? Trying to check in with you all

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with planning commission everything and
they maybe hear some comments and some

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feedback that might be useful to them as
the project goes forward. That's right.

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No decisions will be made right
discussion and an opportunity to hear

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from the applicants themselves about
what their vision is important property.

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So I said
presentation

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» yes

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thank you for bringing up the poweroint
presentation. So my name is Ari. I'm the

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planning manager here for the city of
Seattle set and today I'll be going

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through um Sunday street an informal
project review for the San Antonio

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Health Foundation new clinic building um
for their conceptual design layout and

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use relationship and receive feedback.
And I just really want to go over that

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next purpose is not to approve the
project but to receive preliminary

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feedback on the design, the site layout,
the land use relationship and gateway

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consideration.

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The commission is being asked to provide
early non-binding feedback. The key

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areas are architecture, game design,
streetscape, parking, landscaping,

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pedestrian circulation, lot
configuration, and the relationship

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between the commercial and mixed use
areas. These products will help the

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applicant refine the project before
formal entitlement review.

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Next slide.
The current following step includes a

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two-story clinic with approximately
30,000 square feet of clinic floor area

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about 1,600 square feet of attached
covers parking and 136 parking spite

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plan also shows an entry gate feature
pedestrian walkway welcome plaza seating

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landscaping and a connection to a future
housing area. The floor area figures

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will need to be reconciled in the future
formal the middle.

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Next slide please.
The site functions as a gateway into

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family mata. From a design perspective
the question is not only whether the

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building works as a medical clinic but
whether the site creates an attractive

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and inviting entry into the city. The
goal is to avoid a standalone suburban

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medical campus appearance and instead
reinforce the city's historic small town

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character. Next slide, please. The
municipal code does not establish

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informal project view as a separate
entitlement, but the planning commission

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has authority over the types of issues
raised here, including design review,

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land use, zoning, site planning, and
matters by city managers. Future formal

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review would evaluate consistency with
the municipal code, general plan, design

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guidelines, installations, public
facilities, and architectural um

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compatibility.
Next slide, please.

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The current concept uses a Spanish
mission Mediterranean architectural

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vocabulary. The tile roofs, horns,
stuckle-ike walls, arches, arcades,

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recess openings, and very flames. These
elements help reduce the appearance of a

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large rectangular mass. The commission
may want to focus comments on masking,

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human scale, cascade articulation,
material authenticity, and whether art

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perceptual detailing should continue
around all visible elevation. If you can

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go to the next slide.
For a building of this size, the main

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design on mass, scale, and articulation.
The design should avoid large flat wall

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claims and instead use roof line
variation, wall offsets, recess entries,

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arcade, windows, and architectural
detail to break the building to smaller

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official components. Commissioners may
also want to comment on whether the

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building has enough pedestrian scale
detail at the ground level. Next slide.

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As part of the application, there would
be a lot adjustment um which is not

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before the commission for approval
tonight. The key issue is whether the

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proposed partial configuration creates a
better overall site plan. A lot

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adjustment changes legal partial
boundaries, but it does not

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automatically change general plan and
zoning boundaries. The next submitt

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would should clearly show partial line
zoning boundaries to clinic footprint

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parking circulation. um if there would
be um any future project on the use

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parcel and in
next slide please. A key point is that

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the clinic building and the principal
senate use were shown within the

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commercial district parking through
driveway circulation landscaping and

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related site extend into the mixed use
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One option is to maintain the sun in the
commercial while demonstrating that

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area comping

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is both an operational issue and a
design issue. The commission may want to

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discuss whether the parking field ad
street and highway 156, whether the site

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provides clear pedestrian connection and
whether landscaping can stop of the

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parking area. Concerns to focus on here
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parking, screening, landscape and
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Next slide. The project also identifies
a broader code issue. The general plan

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makes use concept supports residential
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survey activities but the current zoning
use matrix does not expressively allow

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medical

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updates. No code amendment is being
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button
for discussion. Staff is looking for

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feedback on whether the architecture
reflects stand one piece of the store

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character that the masking scale are
appropriate for the gateway the parking

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layout screen and pedestrian
the curation pretty sight design and

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what additional information should be
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And I did want to um let the commission
know that um the architect

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and I apologize if I pronounce your name
wrong. you can correct and when you come

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up from a mo architecturist here on
behalf of the applicant as well as

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Richard the strategy as part of the team
and so they are here to answer any

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technical questions you may have on the
informal review of

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» okay thank you
so now I believe we should hear from the

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applicant
tip. Who would you like to have go

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first? Make sure the designer.

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» Thank you.
Thank you, Chair De. Really appreciate

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your time. Good to see you all uh this
evening. Um and Ariel, of course, thank

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you very much for all of your
I guess bringing on.

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But it's a pleasure to be here before
you. We're super excited to at least uh

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take this step, this initial step. Uh we
appreciate you taking the time to uh

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evaluate. We're here to solicit for some
feedback from you, get some thoughts

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from you. We're happy to do that here.
We're happy to do it individually to

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support the ground act and making sure
that we get all the feedback possible as

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we continue and navigate this project
forward. Um so, as I mentioned, my name

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is Victor Dolan with Pinnacle Strategy.
I'm here tonight on behalf of San Diego

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Health Foundation as their land use and
entitlement consultant. Uh I just want

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to briefly emphasize just how important
this project is not only to San but to

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the entire San Diego County community.
Uh just a quick side note um I grew up

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right on the corner of Gonzal in Buista
in Van on the west side of Hollister and

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um I actually for many years got my
dental work done as a field worker

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myself and field workers uh never enjoy
going to the dentist after getting up at

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4 in the morning to go take apricots and
do what was normal do here in San County

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but it was just great to have the
foundation there conveniently of course

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located there in West Long. So for
decades, San Diego Health Foundation has

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provided healthcare to local families,
including some of the most vulnerable

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members of our community. Uh this
teaching health center represents an

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opportunity to bring the same commitment
directly into Tucson

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and significantly expand access to
healthcare in this part of county. Um,

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as a teaching health center, we will be
participating or partnering with UC

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Santa Cruz, UC Davis, UC Berkeley, and
many more universities and colleges to

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prepare those medical students for real
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Those students and medical staff will
focus on dental training, uh, physician

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assisting, um, and nutritional care as
well for our senior community. Our

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community continues to face shortages of
health care providers and barriers to uh

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accessing primary care, preventative
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This project helps address those needs.
Uh the new teaching health center will

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serve families, seniors, agricultural
workers, uh medical beneficiaries,

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uh other residents who might otherwise
have difficulty obain obtaining timely

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health care. Um, additionally in our
conceptual plans, uh, we are planning

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for a senior health and services center.
Uh, thank you Mary again for your your

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leadership and the leadership of the
senior community here inside.

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Uh, but uh, we also plan on providing a
meeting space, a commercial kitchen that

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also allows you to prepare meals for
those that are in need, physical

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therapy, and other activities. But I
think it's important to look beyond uh

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what this project means even just today
and really go beyond what we'll call

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opening day. Uh this is a long-term
investment for San Juan Ba as I know you

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all realize. It strengthens the city's
healthcare infrastructure, brings

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important services uh closer to uh
residents that need it. uh creates an

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institutional presence in the community
and helps position San Donga

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uh to meet the needs of both its current
residents and then of course future

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generations because as we know and we
heard uh they come back right to serve

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their community. Santo Health Foundation
is committed to working collaboratively

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with the city with staff with the
planning commission and the community to

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develop projects on bombista that we
proud of. Uh we believe this kind of

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project that um communities we believe
this is the kind of project that

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communities rarely actually have an
opportunity to bring forward. So a

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project whose value will be measured not
simply by buildings and of course these

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beautiful renderings but in healthier
families and in better access to

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healthcare. We appreciate your
consideration and look forward to

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continuing to work with you on this very
important project. I think chairman de

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who articulated that perfectly. This is
the gateway, one of the gateways to San

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Bas. I know I use it even not being a
resident I used to enter the city uh

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probably just as much as I use. So, um
understanding that neighborhood,

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understanding the city, uh we know
better people to get feedback from than

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yourself. So, we're excited to do that.
I certainly want to take the time of

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course to introduce Deepo who has been
extremely helpful to us. He was critical

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in the redesign of um our facility in
West Solster that really logistically

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created just a really nice operation. We
also have a number of board members that

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are present here today and just you know
community members who are supportive in

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general. So, I'll pass John over to Deep
Talk really quick so we could eventually

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answer any architecture related
questions or anything of that. And I'm

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here as well answering questions that
that are that I'm able to actually thank

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introduction.
Thank you. Thank you, Commissioners

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Ariel. So I'm fairly new to this project
and as soon as I got on I had a long

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conversation with Ariel as what the city
actually mean what it would what would

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be a good space over here and one of the
things we decided was we wanted to

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modify the layout of the thing at what
has been the past

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building that was away from the street
and it didn't quite uh reflect uh sort

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of relationship we want the uh building
have actual city we want to connect um

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our building to a desperate walking and
create a nicer student what I'm here

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today is to listen I want to you for
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possible that you can derive it for a
scenario and do to create a project that

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you'll all be proud

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question.

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» Anyone else?

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If you have any direct questions prior
to opening the public comments

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why don't
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the architect and then I think myself
included I'm going to reserve

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comments on

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questions for everyone.

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» But I think as of right now, no. Thank
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the project and for the beautiful
renderings and I'm looking forward to

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giving you
um as far as what I saw but um question

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there's a uh endings are going to come
for they're going to come randomly

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probably.
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drawing for anything. There's a flat
section of the roof in Denver.

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» Yes.
>> Is that going to house equipment?

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» That's right. Handle equipment. He
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And this group is going to cover all of
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» Okay. Definitely that's what I was that
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on the cemetery board and so the
cemetery actually overlooked. We

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probably will see that we're not at that
elevation.

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» I'm not sure there's much to be done
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» If there is any need for that, we can
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that like in a better way. Yeah, you
might you might pick us a run up to the

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cemeteries part
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» and we could definitely increase like
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the roof further like we very
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was a concern over another project and
one of those things we're all volunteers

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right so we're not necessarily
professional stuff and some of this

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stuff doesn't occur to us you know
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because it's not sort of what we've been
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right?
>> And because it's a quite a large

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building that that popped in there. Um,
I was wondering drove by there uh over

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the weekend to to take a little bit
closer look, spend a little time

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reflecting on it and that parcel has a
fair amount of smoke to it.

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» Yeah. If you go to the front

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» Yeah. And then there's so there's sort
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BM that would
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side.
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be is the is the building pad going to
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to raise because
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the previous architect and the civil
engineer are not completely on our team

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yet.
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best solution for public access. We
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tree is put down. So our pad needs to be
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access to the part the building itself
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you may end up with
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» Yeah. The reason we show the elevation
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is possible that graded that way
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in speaking to the civil engineer they
thought that like it might be because we

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don't want to cut too much from that. So
we created a sort of boundary at the top

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right but past that uh this possible
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down. So what you'll be seeing from
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one and a half.
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because I am it is that visual impact
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» talking about that visual impact
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uh I was
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was curious all the parking and I guess
that the position forward so that the it

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is as accessible basically pedestrian
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» and I think the planning guidelines are
that you don't want parking like you

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don't want to be a mall further away the
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and parking is
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that much parking but it's a requirement
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» yeah I was curious because it so there
will be there's intended to pedestrian

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access then on that side of the building
parking as well.

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» Definitely I know
>> I just marked it like we just completely

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dissolve that but what we were thinking
is like you walking through from the

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street there a pedestrian gateway walk
through like pathway with seating

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benches
and green area and then come to like an

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entry plaza and building it. Yeah, it's
it's um

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Kaiser Kaiser
reminds me of the Kaiser Village.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. Um

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I think and oh yeah and I guess the
obvious question is about the zoning um

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previous conversations that I've had um
with Rosa Vivian um and it's been a

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while had a conversation,
>> but they it had um there was talk about

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incorporating the housing and the
clinic and having it be spread over more

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campus arrangement and I'm curious what
why that changed and we went to this

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sort of format and I'm wondering if it
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» the big church is probably a little
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» Yeah. Yeah.
Commissioner um the and the magnitude of

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projected
I mean we're looking at likely 30 $30

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million plus project um you know
everything that goes into

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like this. So, a little bit had to do
with the financial side of it. Um, but

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the mixed use side of it, uh, we
understand Ariel's been totally clear on

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what is going to be expected of of the
thing. Um, and of course the condition

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as we look at that, but it is going to
be our goal when we design this parcel.

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But it'll be our goal in in the back of
our mind that we are going to develop

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the other bar school for um healthcare
and supportive housing. Um

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obviously we're looking at those dances.
I think you guys are maybe going through

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changes and dances as well. So not
exactly sure where we're going to land

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there. We also understand commercial
component. Uh so I guess from day on

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street I think about two on that parcel
there will be a commercial likely

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abundance street and so as we continue
this design we're going to take that

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into consideration because we're going
to want it really to be I don't want to

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say necessarily seamless but pretty
seamless right where you have that

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natural transition between both
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call
where we're hoping to get this uh you

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know hoping to pursue this plotline
adjustment really did change how we were

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able to figure site plan of project
because just with that little diamond

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popping out it just yeah it was kind of
funky

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old renderings of the elongated building
um that was really always good to work

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with it and then of course you see is
considering a roundabout out. So we have

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to take that into consideration
come out of that conversation but not

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» that news to me where what I have not
heard that where the round

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» yeah there have been discussions at the
council of government regarding a

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potential roundabout
at 156

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» but um
roundabout

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the Alama

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Street.
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heard that. Um, and again, those are
just ideas that were thrown out during a

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council government discussion. Um I
don't represent goodness

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but um but you know all those things are

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» the zoning and just one last point
the zoning component of it are totally

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clear on what's allowed and not allowed.
So, you know, we do that line adjustment

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like we pursue test and allow us to at
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moving forward.

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Yeah, I think that is
I'm anxious to hear comments from the

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public and then maybe some

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Thanks very much.
>> Thank you. I don't have any questions at

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this time.

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I do want to say it's good to have you
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» Okay, those are my editorial comments.
Let's open up public comment. Um, do we

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have some speaker?
>> Yes, we do. Um in chambers we have Mary

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Edge

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three minutes with
starting

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congratulations
commission.

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Um I'm here uh this evening representing
uh the Mary Senior Center. Um we have

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been um a nonprofit since uh 2024 and um
we have been looking for a place for us

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to um have a senior center.
Currently we make lunch every Wednesday

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for seniors and we have increased in
numbers. Our numbers are up to just

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under
a weekly basis and they pass. Um

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so as commission commissioner Mara knows
we he tried to help us come up with a

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with an idea but it just didn't work.
and the city of Sam is just so unique

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that there isn't an awful lot for us to
go and so um uh Rosa Vision and I have

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collaborated and we have joined forces
in in um having the senior center there

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at this time. So, um we're here in
support of this project and um that's

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the reason I'm here today to let you
know that um we hope that you will

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consider it and it will be a home for um
the senior.

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» Okay. the next chambers. So we have
Victoria

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support.

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» Okay. So up next we have Sarah Bon.

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» Thank you members of the planning
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Um my comments will address primarily
landscape as well as lovely design. Uh I

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just want to give you a little bit of
background. This is the mission garden

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directly across the street from this and
I was on a citizens committee that

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redesigned.
that started out as a bunch of sheet

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monoke

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and I am the last member standing of the
four people who were on that commission.

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There was Georgian Rebecca McGovern
Larry King who was city manager at the

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time and the mover and shaker Richard
and he's the one that hired Branch Holly

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the very noted prep attorney because
this was the one to our historic town

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and with her assistance too we were able
to get some change.

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Um so and they the uh developer
architect young architect who actually

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looked at the entire town and noted that
the design of our town is very fine

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grain. We have a lot of small buildings
and that's why the mission improvements.

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They're like they look like individual
little cottages

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which is a very traditional look. And
then we wanted to make sure that we had

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planting strips
between the sidewalk and the street with

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trees. And the vision was to have
something similar on the other side of

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the street where
health facility is going to be built

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now. Uh we were hoping for the large um
London plain trees like you see at the

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other entrance into town on first
street. A beautiful treelined boulevard

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and the street is very wide there. that
we were even hoping that there might be

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even a century divide in that street
with beautiful large trees.

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So um oh okay I I don't know why when
people come and propose something we

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have commission back still
vaccin

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we started with the gas station across
the street started out like that too I'm

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very concerned it's not going to look
like an Orange County shopping center

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which the people across the street and
these lovely department are going to be

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looking for each. So I'm concerned about
the size. It is the gateway. It doesn't

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really respect
the soul in my opinion of our city, but

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I'm certainly not healthy. Thank you.

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» Next in chambers, we have
Dr.

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Hope you can hear me.
My name is Dr. Sh. I have worked at the

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foundation for almost 15 years. In the
15 years I worked there, I've gained

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tremendous change in all because of the
spirit and the work of one person. And

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then

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she has the vision, she has the stamina,
she has the knowhow of bringing this to

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life and I really
um

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I have heard of people against it or
because they don't want changes. This

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may change for the better. You know it's
going to be a big thing. given quite

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good services over there and I I think
there

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chambers we have Karen Stacy who may now
first report.

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[clears throat]
>> Hi everybody. Um I just wanted to say

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that the Mary senior senator um in
memory of my mom my mom was a social

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worker here in this county for over 30
years. She took care of everybody

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and mind you she was a single mother of
five kids and she still provided for

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other people.
uh we went to private school anyway

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and I just want to carry on this legacy.
She uh always made sure somebody had

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some
death knows my mom real well and so does

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Chris.
So I just I I I'm excited for this

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building.
I want it to succeed.

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I
it's been just an incredible thing to

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have to see
how far you have come in memory of my

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mom.
I hope you get through. Thank you Ariel.

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Thank you everybody.

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Next in chambers we have Mickey.
We're still going to have three minutes.

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Good evening everyone and it's nice to
be here and see Ariel again

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and Chris um I've known you for a while
now you know the work that we do and the

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coalition of county who I am president
current president right now so

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my reasoning for coming here I'm from a
corner vice mayor and becomes my city.

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But my husband is here. This Luna
Vietnam veteran, my sister-in-law,

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Henrietta Lino,
who retired from the state park here.

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But let me tell you, the historical
review is that the Luna family was one

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of the largest families that I can think
in 15 children. My husband is pregnant

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and
59 years ago we took the oath of office

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of his marriage as a mission.
So even if we live in Hollister, his

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heart is always
and let me tell you when I read about

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this concept and project I I nearly
thought that wow this is what Sanino

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County needs not only the city of
and but when you look around and you see

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the meaning of health issues Santo
County and concerns that people have.

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This is the project. This is a project
that can solve so many issues and

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concerns in Sacramento County. And I
before you because I had been

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underground I was born in Raven
Hollister, but I can tell you within the

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00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:42,000
38 years that the Latino Coalition has
existed in Sacramento County, we can

440
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:47,440
just about write a book about health
issues, about anything that comes before

441
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:53,200
us. And let me tell you one thing that
is extremely important is health in

442
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:58,880
Sanino County. And I can tell you also
while you're doing a historical review

443
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:05,520
of families
even Mexico City is concerned about

444
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:11,920
because we are looking right now at a
sister city and before they said how big

445
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:18,800
and you don't have those health
concerns. I mean they got the biggest

446
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:23,040
universities in in medicine in Mexico
and when they are mentioning the things

447
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,119
I think you should know that you should
know that and what Victor just presented

448
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:32,800
about connections with other
universities it's true it's very true

449
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:38,640
because even out of the country people
are looking at

450
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:43,440
so when I look back to and think of my
mother-in-law that lived in a branch

451
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:48,160
over here worked off the pillows and
everybody else

452
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:54,319
15 children there and she died at the
age of 63

453
00:44:50,400 --> 00:45:00,880
because she didn't have the medical
assistance that she needed and it's sad

454
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:07,440
it really sad that if
she hit the 101 or they go the other way

455
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:16,000
to college to get new medical services
and I'm thinking that I think some will

456
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:21,839
be on M on project. So that's that was
my words to you today tonight and I just

457
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:27,760
feel that if you ever need assistance,
if you ever need somebody to speak to

458
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:32,880
you about the issues and concerns of San
County, we're here coalition county.

459
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:37,079
Thank you.
>> Next chambers we have Paul

460
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,760
» my four pendants.

461
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,741
My name is Phil.
[laughter]

462
00:45:52,400 --> 00:46:01,200
I'm a family member
there,

463
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:07,119
president of Rotary
uh here in town. We live here since we

464
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:17,200
moved here in 71. wanted to speak in
favor of what the foundation is trying

465
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:23,520
to build San Juan. San Juan has a lot of
issues and negative

466
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:28,720
images in the greater world. You know
that we can't pull it together, we can't

467
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:34,960
agree on anything, we can't do anything
and so forth. Here we have a project

468
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,880
from an organization that historically
I've known them and worked with them for

469
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:43,040
over 40 something years since they
started has demonstrated with the

470
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,440
creation of their building with the
state-ofthe-art

471
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:51,440
in Hollister that fit right into that
neighborhood.

472
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:59,040
uh the way that they have approached
this project and working with you, I

473
00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:07,760
think it's a wonderful opportunity to
demonstrate what is possible even in

474
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:13,760
small rural underserved areas. Uh this
goes in tandem to our broadband project

475
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:20,000
that we had started five years ago and
will be completed in 6 to8 months which

476
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:26,640
was a $32 million project that benefited
our area. We will now have the best in

477
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:32,400
I'm using that as an example of what is
possible here. As long as you all work

478
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:38,000
together and we can demonstrate for best
practices, the specifics about how it

479
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:44,319
ends up looking and so forth, it will be
a people serving and pleasant to look at

480
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:48,880
size and so forth. That's all
negotiable.

481
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:54,079
I'm not afraid of big buildings
just to say that because it's about the

482
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:58,640
compromise and service and so forth as
long as it's well done. And it just

483
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,480
seems to me that the professionality
already I get a good feeling. I come

484
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:07,359
from the arts community and you got to
talk about feeling and doing stuff. All

485
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:14,000
right. And we cannot forget that. And
things are possible and uh I don't get

486
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:19,200
so nostalgic about the vacant fields out
there that I've been seeing for almost

487
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:23,839
50 years. You know, uh here's something
that that's positive

488
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:29,040
for people and and good built for the
community. Plus you can provide some

489
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:32,720
local jobs and housing like that. This
is the thing that most people have been

490
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:41,280
coming here for so many years. So think
about that and work towards a working

491
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:46,240
together as obviously some artistic
to give you that support. Thank you very

492
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:53,079
much.
Next in chambers we have Victoria.

493
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,079
You may now approach the

494
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:03,760
Good evening
and I'm

495
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:10,960
part of the board but I'm here speaking
not as a board member but as a register

496
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:17,599
for and my story is going to be not a
story about it's just like a statement

497
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:23,839
from where I came to where I am. I came
from Texas in 1957

498
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:30,000
and that town had everything in one
time.

499
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:37,200
Even though the town was the railroad
divided the black, the Mexicans and the

500
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:45,200
blacks from the white and we moved here
and we also lived in and we had a lot of

501
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:52,240
life. I was very happy to live here even
though I was living in a labor camp. But

502
00:49:47,680 --> 00:50:02,240
now I am an older lady and now I have a
moral story to say that at one time we

503
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:08,960
were together at every now
like a railroad where all the wealthy

504
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:14,960
are in the hill on the outside of the
town which is the one too all the

505
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:19,119
wealthy moving on the Friday night and
the poor people in center of city

506
00:50:18,274 --> 00:50:27,920
[clears throat]
like a ghost I call a ghost town I call

507
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:36,000
a ghost town and there's a moral that
says this country has

508
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:41,520
to be built to bring tourist
when I join the border I have no idea

509
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:48,000
but I I compare now to the terms of
state and so the moral story is when

510
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:53,359
guilty why they find money and not work.
And this is the background in my mind. I

511
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:58,800
say we we have not improved. We just
changed it a little bit. We can all go

512
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:05,440
to the same grocery store in the
Starbucks. But as a

513
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:13,040
political background on the roof
history is we haven't changed and that's

514
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:17,359
why I'm here compared to from one became
the same. Thank you.

515
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,040
We have

516
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:36,920
» we have phone number 8314
310993

517
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920
now.

518
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:41,559
You have three minutes.

519
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,520
Are you there?
Why don't we go? Maybe they can come

520
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,520
back
next.

521
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:14,520
» I'm sorry. Did you hear me?
Can you hear me now?

522
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,599
» Can you hear me?
>> Uh, this is John Hopper. I'm not who

523
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:25,440
sure who's speaking.
>> This is Aradio.

524
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:28,640
» Hopper, if you can hear me, we cannot
hear you. We're trying to fix that. Hold

525
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:33,119
on one second.
>> Well, let me just start again. Uh, my

526
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,920
name is Arcadia Vos and I'm the chair of
the board of San Bonito Health

527
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Foundation. I have served in that
capacity for over 10 years and I am very

528
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:53,359
excited that uh our organization
is uh launching this this uh program for

529
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:59,119
the benefit of San Bonito
uh county primarily for San Juan

530
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:06,960
Bautista which will be the center of
this new uh concept uh in healthc care

531
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:13,119
uh that in this country we have a
shortage of physicians

532
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:22,319
and no one I I shouldn't say no one but
a few are dedicated to

533
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:29,599
uh begin the process of educating new uh
generations of primary care doctors uh

534
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:37,520
physicians dentists uh social workers
you name it and the best way to train

535
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:45,520
this future providers ers of care is
that uh they could train in a community

536
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:52,160
of need and certainly uh Sahama Baptista
is a community of need and we feel very

537
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:57,280
uh committed to this process. Uh and we
thank you for the opportunity you give

538
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:03,119
us to present this project. It's going
to be a jewel. Uh long time ago I used

539
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:09,520
to be a healthc care executive and I
used to travel this way to the coast

540
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:14,240
from the Fresno area and um I always
stopped at San Bernito Health Foundation

541
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:19,760
because I always uh felt that that
clinic was the best looking clinic of

542
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:25,760
all the clinics in California.
So the new uh the new thing that is

543
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:31,760
going to happen is that Sanapista
probably be the best looking clinic in

544
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:37,520
the state of California as well. So,
we're committed to this 30 $300 uh

545
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:46,079
million dollar pro, excuse me, $30
million project. And uh we are uh uh

546
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:51,520
taking in consideration the uh needs
that the community has voices that they

547
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:57,680
need for us to address and certainly the
design of the facility has to meet those

548
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:04,559
needs. That's why we created the second
story uh concept because we want to

549
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:11,920
serve our elderly uh and also people
that are u uh immobile or they need uh

550
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:19,200
therapy so they can uh live a very
healthy life. So thank you very much and

551
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:24,400
I'm looking forward to uh meet you in
person. I was there earlier, but the

552
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:30,240
meeting uh we heard it was cancelled, so
I came back to my home. That's why I'm

553
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:35,359
doing it from from the phone. Thank you
very much. And looking forward to

554
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:40,559
working with your staff and and we and
the board and also the city council.

555
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:46,359
» Thank you, sir. Can we get your name?
You were cut off at the beginning. Could

556
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,359
you give us your name, please?

557
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:05,960
Okay, for the minute you have that long

558
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:25,400
Next we have John Hopper. John Hopper,
you have been engaged.

559
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:34,000
» Thank you. U Mr. Chairman and members of
commission, first I just wanted to say

560
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,520
thank you from the bottom of my heart to
you new commissioners that have joined

561
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:44,480
tonight. Uh and for those of you that
don't know me, I spent many years

562
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:49,920
sitting in your seat and as chairman of
your commission. I'm a 40 or former city

563
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:54,160
council member and mayor of this city.
So, I just want to thank you for joining

564
00:56:52,240 --> 00:57:01,040
the commission and giving up an
important time to this cause. I'd like

565
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:05,440
to start off by just emphasizing that um
this is a huge building

566
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:10,559
and
regardless of the merits or what have

567
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:16,559
you, let's just keep in mind this is a
really huge building. Uh, I just became

568
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:22,880
really familiar with this project today
when I read the Bonito link u article

569
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:26,079
and when I looked at the artist
renderings it kind of looked to me

570
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:32,000
something like the medical clinics like
on Abbott Street and Selenus Selenus or

571
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:36,799
what have you just an observation
um

572
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:41,599
so to that end this just needs to be
done right if it's going to be done on

573
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:46,000
this scale and size u some of my points
here aren't necessarily in order of

574
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:51,440
theme because I just jotted down these
notes before this meeting. Um, but there

575
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:55,839
was a mission in the the Bonita Link
article about the gate and I don't

576
00:57:53,839 --> 00:58:01,040
understand what that dilemma is all
about or what that really means, but I'm

577
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:06,000
not really sure we need a gated uh
commercial facility. Um, maybe it's for

578
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:11,520
security, what have you, but I think
that should be looked at. The other

579
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:16,240
thing I want to really focus on is those
of us that have been involved in

580
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:24,000
politics in this town, served on
commissions and on the council. We

581
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:29,839
always looked at this commercial parcel
as kind of a jewel, something we had in

582
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:37,440
our back pocket that would, you know, be
very promising the city. This particular

583
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:43,359
project does not bring forward any toot
taxes

584
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:48,480
and those are transient obviously taxes.
It brings no sales tax opportunities and

585
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:53,839
just having said that I I don't want to
take away from the public health needs

586
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:59,599
of the community because I'm also very
passionate about that.

587
00:58:56,319 --> 00:59:03,359
I also want to point out and I it was
the audio is very bad in this meeting

588
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:09,200
and I think Carol Blanc was speaking to
this but keep in mind that adjacent

589
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:13,920
public uh or parcel when I was either on
the planning commission or the council

590
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:20,240
we made sure that that property was
reszoned from its current zoning which I

591
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:25,680
think was residential to mixed use with
the same theme that

592
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:30,720
it could provide housing and yet also So
provide commercial opportunities where

593
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:36,240
those were sales tax generating or just
office spaces similar to like the Ted

594
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:41,440
Tony property that's across uh down the
street. The other thing I just think

595
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:48,799
that we should be cognizant of if this
moves forward and perhaps a condition

596
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:53,680
approval uh as regarding future use. We
should make sure some guarantees

597
00:59:50,480 --> 01:00:00,319
concerning the property
use as approved stays to just what it is

598
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:06,720
and doesn't become something else in the
future if that happens. Um, and make

599
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:11,119
sure those restrictions apply to future,
you know, land owners.

600
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:17,200
The last question I have relative to
this particular use, and again, I'm not

601
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:23,200
dismissing the public health need. I'm
just wondering if a needs survey has

602
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:28,480
been done to actually determine that
this is needed in our town, in our

603
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:35,839
community, or is there maybe a better
use for this property? Um,

604
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:41,839
I I I I don't know what that really
means and and and I was not aware of the

605
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:46,559
educational component which may be of
high benefit. And then the last thing is

606
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:51,599
the funding sources of this. I'm not
really sure where that comes from. My

607
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:57,440
wife served on the uh health foundation
board for many years and and so my guess

608
01:00:54,079 --> 01:01:04,440
is maybe this is federal grants or local
monies. I'm not sure. But I think we as

609
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:04,440
a city also have

610
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:14,920
that those funds are utilized
>> in the attention they're intended.

611
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,119
speaker.

612
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,240
» Thank you for your

613
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,520
» Who's next?
>> Christina Vasquez.

614
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:45,119
You have three minutes.
>> Hi everyone. My name is Christina

615
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:49,599
Vasquez. Um uh I'm the I represent I
would like to say that I represent the

616
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:56,079
school district in this time just
because I'm the president of the ELAC

617
01:01:53,119 --> 01:02:03,440
committee of San Juan Bautista. I'm also
a counselor at ANSAR as a Rotarian

618
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:11,119
with our internet club that we have
there. Um I'm also the DAC president. So

619
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:17,680
I'm very close to the families in town
and in the school district and I really

620
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:25,760
know h all of the needs that we have in
talking about health services. On the

621
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:31,680
other side, I'm also um a mother of an
special needs kids and I suffer a lot

622
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:38,559
from the
h services that we we need a lot of

623
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:45,760
services that we can found there. Erh it
is also a need that I think that nobody

624
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:50,319
has expressed that the foundation is a
big big big thing for the Spanish

625
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:57,200
community.
and uh all of us which is also the part

626
01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:02,640
that I represent. We need a service that
can speak our language and that can

627
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:08,640
understand our background and our
culture and especially being very close

628
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:13,920
with the school families. I can
understand

629
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:19,520
especially that need and
also again for example I can't be there

630
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:26,880
right now just because I had to take my
son to physical therapy

631
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:32,640
very far away and I I wish we could have
more services and the families really

632
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:36,440
really would appreciate these kind of
projects in out.

633
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:49,240
» Thank you. There are no additional
public comments on Zoom or Chambers.

634
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,240
Okay.

635
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:01,760
» I I can respond to something.
>> That's all right. Or

636
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:04,400
» you or you want to wait for the end?
>> Yeah.

637
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:11,720
But we'll give you some time.
>> All right.

638
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:22,079
Church. So
the conversation then comes to this

639
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:25,079
commission. Who would like to go first?
Volunteers.

640
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:40,160
Um, but I appreciate public comment.
Thank you everybody. Um,

641
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:47,280
you guys heard the the concerns about
scale. I think that was pretty loud to

642
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:52,559
hear what the solution is that given as
I don't know but something obviously

643
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:57,520
it's concern that should probably be
revisited. Um, I had a couple of

644
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:01,839
questions that just sort of popped into
my head. Pharmacy is there pharmacy on

645
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:05,079
site?
>> Do you know?

646
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:17,000
» It looks like the interior plan is
fairly generic.

647
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,000
» So, we haven't reached that.

648
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:25,200
» Oh, yeah. So,
we haven't reached that stage yet, but

649
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:29,280
you'll definitely post it as something
moving and if something makes sense for

650
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,000
the planning commission to either
include or exclude.

651
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:38,880
» No. Yeah, no problem. I was just I I
assumed that was the case given the

652
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:43,839
layout, but I was
missing.

653
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:51,039
No. Um I think it would be interesting.
Um there's been a couple of different um

654
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:56,480
architectural styles
uh sort of the names thrown out and I

655
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:02,960
think it would be valuable or
instructive to perhaps have a little

656
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:09,119
tutorial about what those are. Um and I
so I made notes about mission revival

657
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:14,319
versus Spanish colonial or Spanish
revival versus Mediterranean. some of

658
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:18,240
this stuff sort of blends together.
>> Absolutely.

659
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:26,400
» And then there's some mon side
>> those. Um, so to to me this

660
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:31,200
to me it would be more natural to have
it be have it closer tie into the

661
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:37,200
Monterey style
because you know the broader community

662
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:42,319
some examples in town as opposed to I
think Carol made the comment about being

663
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:45,920
trying to make a mission back to Italy.
>> I thought that was a very good comment.

664
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,480
Um, somebody else mentioned Santa
Barbara and this it clicked in my head

665
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:56,400
that this like it would fit in Santa
Barbara and it I like it. I find it I

666
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,520
think it's very attractive building. I
think it would be interesting to have a

667
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:03,839
little more clarity because I think
you're all bringing set different

668
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:09,200
experiences and not have your love
training for some of the nuances between

669
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:15,520
some of these architectural class.
>> Absolutely. So just to clarify like in

670
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:19,839
terms of like we were trying to address
what we felt had been brought up prior.

671
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:26,480
» Understood.
>> Uh so we were sort of addressing that

672
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:30,640
» but it's not to say that's why we didn't
come here with a final design to say

673
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:36,640
this is it approve it or I'm out of here
right this is more to me as a engagement

674
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:43,200
process. This is the time where we're
saying that like does this belong to

675
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:47,039
here? Does this seem right? Does he seem
right? Like all those things are real

676
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:50,799
open discussion.
Same thing with the landscaping. Like is

677
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:56,640
the landscaping something I would like
to discuss this city. Are there plans

678
01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:01,839
for developing the street? Are there
central islands? No.

679
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:06,000
» But on my drive, it didn't seem like
there was anything going to happen there

680
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:11,200
for a while. So I don't know what plan
is but like if city public works and

681
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:15,440
somebody wants to get involved with us
and let give us more feedback.

682
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:18,440
Well, somewhere in Ashley's
>> office

683
01:08:27,552 --> 01:08:29,572
[laughter]

684
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:39,600
was to create some land separation
between the street and building so that

685
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:44,560
it sort of scales them down a little
bit.

686
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:52,080
» Um there so a previous a city manager
design a streetscape for for McCollamy

687
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:58,000
and I'm sure the drawings are somewhere
in Ashley's office but for a divided

688
01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:04,159
road with the center a very beautiful
plant center central planter uh and a

689
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:10,319
small roundabout at the at that at that
intersection basically of Monterey

690
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:14,640
and that would be it would be
interesting I think to back to be

691
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:18,159
drenched.
>> Yeah,

692
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:22,960
» probably be incor and potentially be
incorporated into

693
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:30,640
the overall product.
Um yeah. Um I one of my concerns about

694
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:36,080
the about McCullum Street is parking
parking on street already very

695
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:41,759
difficult. And I wonder if there might
also be a way to accommodate angle

696
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:46,080
parking
the entire property so that we can

697
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:51,199
increase the number of street parking
space and that of course will approach

698
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:56,239
onto the property some but I think that
will be of value to the community.

699
01:09:53,520 --> 01:10:01,440
» We can keep it in mind. But my take on
it overall is like you want to promote

700
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,320
people walking.
>> Yeah.

701
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:08,719
» Cars won't help.
>> And we're in California. We all got five

702
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:12,800
cars.
>> I'm with you. I got

703
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:17,960
» right.
I'm saying and I'm I'm think

704
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:26,880
issues happening now. people driving
fast, seniors trying to cross the road

705
01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:32,560
and somebody hit them. So, keeping the
cars away is probably a better thing and

706
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:36,760
creating more pedestrian friendly
approach to the building.

707
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:43,760
» I got you. But I'm telling you, we need
more park.

708
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:47,760
You're not going to get away from
California.

709
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:55,800
» Um
I mean at this stage I Let's let's uh

710
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,800
try to keep it down out there.

711
01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:02,640
» And the desire like I'm not trying to
dismiss that like I'm just saying that

712
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:08,800
like that would be my best feeling like
we don't want to do it but if the city

713
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:12,960
wants it and the community wants it. I
think it should be like I don't see any

714
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:18,239
problem with that.
Um

715
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:22,640
yeah, I just there's
we heard a lot of great feedback from

716
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:28,719
the community. The scope and scale of
the services provided was enlightening.

717
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:35,840
Um and I think uh one of the things that
we wanted to keep in mind is that they

718
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:43,600
are the zoning is
driving the to a fairly large extent. I

719
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:48,400
think the scope and scale of building so
you know that I think you know there

720
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:54,480
there's there's certain well I'll speak
for myself I'm I have no issue with

721
01:11:51,520 --> 01:12:00,000
revisiting zoning if that if that is an
advent

722
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:06,080
I don't think that's a real problem for
you some sort of change there

723
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,800
out that's my personal
that's all that I have

724
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,719
Yeah, sure.

725
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,400
» Close to the mic.

726
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:31,679
» I think that this is a
a good project. Um, I was really happy

727
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:37,920
to hear that the senior center would be
Mary Mary Velasco

728
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:41,760
senior center would be included. And you
know, I was thinking about that and I

729
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:46,560
thought, you know what else down the
would be nice if it could be included is

730
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:51,040
also a wellness center where we could
have a gym. I know that that's really

731
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:55,840
needed and then, you know, something for
yoga, lobby, whatever. But I thought

732
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,760
that that would be nice to incorporate
something like that and that that would

733
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:05,199
give between the senior center and the
gym you have a benefit for the entire

734
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:11,360
community. So I thought that that was
really nice. Yes, the building is really

735
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:15,360
big and I'm
boy I need visuals. So I'm going to

736
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:21,840
throw something out. I don't know if
you're familiar with it, but Montage

737
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:27,760
Health in Marina, they are located at
Immun Second. Would you happen to know

738
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:33,679
how that building I'm very familiar with
that building, so how that was compared

739
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:37,760
to what you're proposing?
>> Yes, because I can, you know, that's a

740
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:40,159
big
>> We can definitely look into that and get

741
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,159
back to you.
>> Okay, that'd be great. Just because I'm

742
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:49,520
more visual and looking it on paper.
Sure.

743
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:53,920
» So the existing
uh

744
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,679
health foundation
about 18,000 square foot on a single

745
01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:01,360
level.
>> Okay.

746
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:04,880
» So if you want to drive by there, take a
look at that. So you can see that it's

747
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:10,159
not
>> very big. I think it's the second story

748
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:18,159
that adds a little bit more volume.
>> Sure. But um as I said like with the

749
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:22,320
grading, the landscaping and even
probably modifying the masking as we

750
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:25,280
move along, I think we make it look
right.

751
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,600
» Okay. Thank you. And I'm not opposed to
changing the zoning either.

752
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:33,440
» Okay.
>> So, no problem with that. Um

753
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:39,679
what else? Oh, the historic house. I'm
just curious. Is that been resolved? I I

754
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:43,840
mean that I I know it. I know,
>> but I needed to bring it up because you

755
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:47,199
know in the listing we did talk about it
>> big house.

756
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:53,040
» No, no, I know.
>> Yeah, we uh we were evaluating that that

757
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:58,880
next door right on the on the adjacent
parcel. Um we even thought about maybe

758
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:02,400
considering trying to maybe rehab some
of the units, but they're past that

759
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:08,159
stage, right?
>> And so I think uh we're Ariel and I have

760
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:14,719
been talking about this back and forth.
So uh we are uh in the process the city

761
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:22,560
does have a process for processing sorry
process for processing uh the uh removal

762
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:28,560
of that home um and will likely ask you
to bond that

763
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:33,520
to that we would likely have to come
before you.

764
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:39,400
» Yes. um for this body. Um the
commissioners also serve on resources

765
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,400
board.

766
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,800
» You will definitely hear
>> curious, you know, I don't care one way

767
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:47,800
or another.

768
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:56,800
» Well, we'll have to because of that um
reason uh we will definitely have to uh

769
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:00,960
go through that, you know, historical
process to make sure we

770
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:05,199
» Okay. appropriate.
>> Thank you. Couple more questions.

771
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:09,679
Covered parking,
I was curious about that. Most places

772
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:13,120
don't have
covered parking. Are you planning on

773
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:16,159
putting solar panels on
>> more

774
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,360
parking?
>> Yeah,

775
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:23,120
» we could definitely consider that. Like
that's not an issue.

776
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:26,800
» I I do really quick. I do want to
mention that we have been in

777
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:32,480
conversation
step back. sustainability is is

778
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:38,159
important and it's a part of our
conversation. Uh it's part of the

779
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:43,920
conversation at the clinic in West Her
went through. Um now we have chargers

780
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:49,760
and and all of that good stuff. But um
just last week I had a a fantastic

781
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:55,920
conversation with um um ecology action
and talked about sustainability on-site

782
01:16:52,400 --> 01:17:03,280
sustainability and what we can do to um
you know promote um you know clean air

783
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:07,600
and um environmental you know um
sensitivities around this project. So

784
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:12,960
those conversations are having I
appreciate you bringing that up. But it

785
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:18,480
goes even further than just even um you
know solar panels parking. We're talking

786
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:23,679
about um trying to capture some you know
rain water. We're talking about you know

787
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:29,120
and repurposing of course and then also
talking about battery storage and the

788
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:36,159
opportunity for um battery backup. have
it currently at our site in Hollister,

789
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:40,719
but um we definitely need to be with
that occur. We would likely be looked at

790
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:47,679
and maybe even be considered as part of
the emergency

791
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:52,000
um you know emergency processes right in
any community.

792
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:56,960
» And really quick, commissioner, I do
want to you're like you're ahead of it

793
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:01,360
already on the wellness component of it.
That is the discussion we've had. It is

794
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:07,280
something we're going to work in. Uh
we've even talked about uh potentially

795
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:14,640
creating using the space as much as
possible in creating an outdoor space.

796
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:20,000
Um I was involved in a project in a
master plan community in North College

797
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:23,920
where we did a a linear
um a linear

798
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:30,560
exercise park.
>> So the the park is actually

799
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:34,719
2300 linear feet. Um, and it it is a
park and it's about 40 feet wide. It

800
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:40,480
goes on the curve of the Hollister
bypass Highway 75. You see a small

801
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:48,000
portion right now that's actually built,
but as those two develop it will be a

802
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:53,440
continuous park and every um 150 feet or
so you have exercise equipment. Um, and

803
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:56,960
um that was actually one of the things
folks were really excited about. So,

804
01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:01,840
we're even thinking about not just
indoor wellness and yoga and things like

805
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:05,760
that, but potentially wrapping some a
little bit of outdoor opportunities for

806
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:08,560
for wellness to come.
>> That's great.

807
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:14,000
» And just one more comment. I love that
you have an herb garden in there.

808
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:18,719
» Yeah, we're super excited about that. We
want to make sure and of course in

809
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:25,280
collaboration um with the Blasco Senior
Center uh we definitely want to make

810
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:30,480
sure that um it's not just about healthy
eating and and and cooking and making

811
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:36,080
sure that we are uh you know showing our
seniors how to cook healthier um but

812
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:41,520
also using you know a lot of folks
including myself. I have a a home garden

813
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:47,040
and um and we use everything that that
we grow. My wife is on

814
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:51,920
climate an orchard on our property which
I'm excited about.

815
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:56,320
So, but we want to make sure that folks
that are growing in their own personal

816
01:19:53,679 --> 01:20:00,480
community gardens um have an opportunity
to learn how to use what actually

817
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:07,480
growing and learn how to and hopefully
learn that at our at our site.

818
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,480
» Sounds great. Thank you.

819
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,360
» That all right. Thank you.

820
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:25,600
Thank you, Ch.
I'm gonna let's call around here. So, I

821
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,600
do apologize.
Um,

822
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:38,000
the first thing
is

823
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:42,960
brown, not the rest of the commission.
So this is I'm going to say that I am

824
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:47,440
very excited about this and I do believe
that the rest of the commission is too.

825
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:51,840
I do not believe it's a matter of if but
when this project comes to fruition. And

826
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:56,880
I want to be clear that the
communication

827
01:20:53,679 --> 01:21:02,960
that I would like to have isn't we need
to justify it. Let's work together so

828
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:08,080
that we make it happen. Our job here is
to and I don't know a better way to say

829
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:13,360
this off the top of my head. protect the
city's interest. As you heard tonight,

830
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:19,280
there is a wide variety of opinions on
the building. With that being said, I

831
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:25,520
know we can we can come to an agreement
and work together. So, my request is be

832
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:30,320
open. Please try not to take anything
personally that is us giving you your

833
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:37,840
ideas. And I personally love your
advice. I'm another Chinese girl, so you

834
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:42,320
go. But in all seriousness, let's work
together. That's what this is about,

835
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:49,520
okay? And let's create something
absolutely beautiful that this town can

836
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:55,199
be proud about on all levels. Not only
are we serving the community, not only

837
01:21:52,159 --> 01:22:01,360
are we serving an underserved community,
not only are we serving minorities as

838
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:05,120
well as majority, by the way,
um, but we're also serving those who

839
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:11,199
desperately need it. And then we can
have a beautiful, beautiful campus that,

840
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:17,840
and when I say that, I don't mean it in
a a negative way. I mean a creative

841
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:24,880
beautiful structure that we are proud of
and can represent it very well. So with

842
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:29,520
that being said,
I absolutely love the fact that the

843
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:33,120
senior center is going to live there. I
love the fact that they're going to have

844
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:37,719
a permanent home.
I love the beautiful renovations.

845
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:51,120
Go get them. We need more positive
events in today's society. And we need

846
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:57,520
to work together. And that's what I want
to stress. We are here to work together,

847
01:22:53,679 --> 01:23:03,040
not to decide good. We're here to decide
what's going to work best for this

848
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:08,239
community. And with that being said, on
the list, you ready?

849
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:14,719
Um, the architecture. So, I did my
research and uh, looking over the

850
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:22,159
architecture, I see a lot of mixes in
your rendering of mission tile, the bell

851
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:29,040
tower, the
Mediterranean and the Lucian trend, the

852
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:34,159
broad iron, the contrasting stone.
um Moorish Arches to a certain extent

853
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:39,639
and a touch of Monteray which all of
them I love but I feel like they're all

854
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,639
kind of inter

855
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:52,560
one
overriding divine element in my opinion

856
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:58,159
I would like to see mission
um revival because I think it goes with

857
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:04,639
what we have here
Um, the mission Sam Carlos the mission

858
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:10,719
in Carmel is one of my favorites. It's I
wouldn't say it's small because it's not

859
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:13,280
tiny but it seems very
>> last weekend.

860
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:19,360
» Yeah.
>> Okay. And my favorite part of that and

861
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:24,239
we'll get to it is the ocula or the
oculi they've got one and I want to talk

862
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:29,280
about that but that's an example right
our own mission here

863
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:34,639
um or the rate of the arcade I noticed
on your designs that there were some

864
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:43,280
areas there where I felt like we could
have used an arcade more than arcade to

865
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:50,719
take away that huge massive metall
That's how I felt. Okay. Um,

866
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:58,400
I thought that your use of different
elevations on roof lines was fantastic.

867
01:24:54,480 --> 01:25:05,840
I thought that it made it look not as
big square footage wise as it actually

868
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:10,239
is. Now, with that,
I am chairman of the historic review

869
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:15,679
board and and that is where my passion
lies. And I'm going to say this. I'm

870
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:21,520
going to ask you and I agree with what
Cara said. This is a big building and

871
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:28,400
this is right at the entrance to our
city. Is there a way that we can get

872
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:33,440
creative on how we put this together? I
love her idea of clumping cottages

873
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:39,600
together. Is there a way that you could
do that without having to spend a ton of

874
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:44,560
money to redesign this? Work with us on
this. I mean in an ideal world I would

875
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:50,719
love to see singlestory
cottages that you can clump together use

876
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:55,360
the arcade to and in this case I call
them overhangs right that people can

877
01:25:52,880 --> 01:26:01,440
walk from one set to another and not get
wet again voting about walking

878
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:08,320
I just think that there's more that we
can do together to really make this

879
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:14,639
spectacular and I personally love your
ideas and I know that you can do it. So

880
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:21,679
let's see what we can do together. The
use of masonry on the arches

881
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:27,120
that's more Andalusian. Can we stick to
more and I've already said this, the

882
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:33,440
mission revival, the more the maray, the
more simplistic elegant that goes with

883
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:37,760
our mission and our adobe, the bling
casual adobe. If you take a look at it

884
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:43,120
right over here, it's very simple. this
Monteray that will go there and I know

885
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:48,639
that you can do it based on what I see.
Um the raw iron I'm going to ask you if

886
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:55,520
we can please eliminate that and you
would a couple reasons for that. the rot

887
01:26:52,159 --> 01:27:02,480
iron the way you use it on the on the
windows and on the balcony there that's

888
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:09,199
more in my opinion Mediterranean Italian
French could be one of these we are

889
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:16,960
colonial Spanish town we are Monteray
style we are mission revival wood hits

890
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:23,199
that and wood will
be seen and look absolutely stunning

891
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:28,320
from the highway as you drive by it and
people will know this is a historic

892
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:34,320
canal. Check that out.
Um, deep in the east right now on the

893
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:39,440
taller and I forgot the name of the
building, but the tall building. Um, the

894
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:44,000
one with the first floor, then you've
got the big wide arch, then you've got

895
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:50,560
the three arch windows. Let's talk about
that. Can we deepen the the um the ease

896
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,040
coming down, make them longer, make them
look more modern way. I think it will be

897
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:58,560
a benefit to you because number one, it
will be protecting the stuckco on the

898
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:02,480
walls so that you're not going to have
to paint it as often. Okay, it will

899
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:06,880
protect this and you know more about
this than I you want to talk about

900
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:14,880
network. I can talk. This this is more
fun for me in person.

901
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:19,199
Um, okay. The ocula. Um, I'll say oculus
because you have more than one. I love

902
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:23,840
that idea.
Is there a possibility instead of making

903
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:31,199
it a perfect circle that we could do
something unique? Um, I absolutely love

904
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:35,360
the star uh that we have at the Caramel
mission.

905
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:41,920
I belong to a sorority called Flying Y.
If you look it up on the web, you can

906
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:48,880
see that our badge, our symbol is a
traditional um I think they call it an

907
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:53,679
oto foil. It's Yeah. Okay. It's very
traditional in art. You see it

908
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:56,880
throughout the time. And I really think
something like that and even if you want

909
01:28:55,280 --> 01:29:02,239
to create something, I don't care. Just
make it beautiful. And can we inset it

910
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:07,360
instead of having it flush with the
wall? Can we inset that into the

911
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:14,239
stuckle? Again, going more for the
mission revival style that I would

912
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:21,120
really like to see. Um, instead of the
three arched tall windows

913
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:25,840
um on the secondary faces, is there a
way that we can turn those into square?

914
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:32,880
again going more with the traditional
style that we see here in town and again

915
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:38,800
in setting that into the stuckco
um at the gables

916
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:45,920
um there are places where you have that
love it let's do more of that more

917
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:52,320
design isn't necessarily better simple
elegant traditional beautiful that's

918
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:58,560
what I'm going for here that's what I
believe this city wants to see. Okay.

919
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:03,199
Um,
let's see. Uh, I already told you about

920
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:08,159
the arcades. If we can get more in, I
think that'll be great when it's

921
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:15,600
raining. Um, it will also shade. It will
also save the stuckco. Um, the garage,

922
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:21,760
the rounded part on the top. I don't
know what you call that. Is there a way

923
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:26,480
that we can make that more prominent and
instead of putting in the foils there,

924
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:32,080
put in or I think it was a window, can
we put in a vent instead? Or there may

925
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:36,719
have been an oculizer. Can we just put a
vent instead? Again, keeping it more

926
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:40,560
simple.
Um, and again, these are ideas. I'm not

927
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:49,120
I don't want you feeling like I'm
telling you, but just like Okay. Um,

928
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:54,960
the entry court view. I love it. I love
the big arches. I love the arched door.

929
01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:59,440
I love the wood. And I know that you
need the glass so people can see in and

930
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:04,480
see out. I think that's beautiful. Go
with it. Don't mess with it. Back to the

931
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:10,320
garage. My other apologies. Um, when I
looked at the garage doors, I went and

932
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:14,880
it's me personally, but you have windows
in the top of it. Is there a way that we

933
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:19,840
can just do the solid wood and then
maybe do some more iron um you know for

934
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:28,000
hinges and that sort of thing making it
look old world to match the town. Um

935
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:32,960
I love keeping the vent on the gables
that are there. Quiet space, quiet

936
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:37,840
treatment.
It is also proof that the detail I'm

937
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:43,120
asking for at the garage already exists.
So hopefully we can do it there too.

938
01:31:40,719 --> 01:31:48,800
Um, I know that there are some middleles
missing. That really isn't a big deal

939
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:53,840
right now. This is more of here are our
our ideas, in this case, my ideas on

940
01:31:52,000 --> 01:32:01,280
what you've presented. And I think we
are off to a fantastic start and I think

941
01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:06,880
once we get moving that this is going to
go fairly quickly. Um, I noticed that

942
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:11,600
there was no color plan and no material
board. Again, that wasn't expected here,

943
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:17,120
but if you could put one together for
us, that would be fantastic. Again, I

944
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:23,040
personally am looking for those old
world styles, not bright white, but a

945
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:28,639
Spanish white, more with the cream, the
yellow, the aged color, the red, the

946
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:34,960
heavy red, the heavy wood. And I know
you you can do that. So, um any chance

947
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:38,800
um
let's see what else? Um, the LO line

948
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:44,000
adjustment. I know we're going to talk
about that later.

949
01:32:41,013 --> 01:32:50,239
[clears throat] Um,
I think right now I don't need to

950
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:53,920
address the zoning. Um, the Calran
event. We'll deal with that when it

951
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:57,360
comes in. I didn't feel it was
appropriate at this time to really go

952
01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:02,080
into
um, you know, the plants and that sort

953
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:06,639
of thing when we're talking about the
building. I think once we get the

954
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:12,320
building, it's going to be a lot easier
to see what's going to work where,

955
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:19,360
excuse me, and where.
Um,

956
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:25,040
uh, the 136, excuse me, the 136 parking
field needs, um, real screening, but we

957
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:29,360
can work with that. I love the tree
canopy.

958
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:33,520
Um,
screening of refues is absolutely a

959
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:39,600
must, a must. You guys are creating this
and I know that you can you can do that

960
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:49,199
now is the time. Um, again, the arch
entry belia, they're beautiful.

961
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:53,679
And again, just for me, it's let's get
this building rolling and then let's

962
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:59,600
focus on. So, thank you very much for
all of your effort. I know this wasn't

963
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:05,199
easy. I know that the cost and time
associated with this, I'm truly grateful

964
01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:09,920
and I just want to say keep going and
let's make this a beautiful building.

965
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,400
Thank you. Or building. Thank you very
much.

966
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:15,760
» Thank you. Chairman,
>> can I address one of your comments?

967
01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:22,880
» Sure.
So definitely that's what I I came here

968
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:28,800
to do this for that mean I'm interacting
with everybody getting feedback and

969
01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:34,080
going back to the drawing board.
One thing I do want to say is ideally

970
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:39,920
like I would love to create courtyards
and the system of

971
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:48,080
building that you went through. The
problem is that like with our new uh

972
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:53,840
system like for a healthcare building I
can't create too many places where staff

973
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:59,840
is walking in and out of building or
patient. So if it were a separate uh

974
01:34:57,679 --> 01:35:04,480
element like maybe the senior center
could be its own element something like

975
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:10,639
that we can definitely play around with
that but the main building the

976
01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:14,679
healthcare thing has to be sort of
continuous enclosed

977
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:26,080
» okay I left my report here in a hypo
patient

978
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:30,000
» and Um, I know that they have a
treatment center in South Bay. It used

979
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:34,800
to be called Center Street. I have no
idea what they call now. And you have

980
01:35:32,719 --> 01:35:40,880
multiple buildings.
And um, yeah, the physicians probably

981
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:47,440
don't walk between them, but here's what
I'm going to say to you. Get creative. I

982
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:52,719
know you can do this. You created this.
Get creative for me. Give us what we

983
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:58,480
need so that this community is happy
with us. Give us the gateway that this

984
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:03,280
town deserves. We need a win right now
and you can provide it.

985
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:09,840
» The San Bonito Health Foundation can
provide it. Give us the campus that this

986
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:14,480
town deserves. Please.
>> Okay. And I understand you can't do

987
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:21,120
everything. Just get creative. Thank
you. go get

988
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:24,120
your best apparently I have the easiest
job

989
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:32,400
just to piggy back on comments regarding
uh state federal regulations that we

990
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:38,320
have to comply with it does have a bit
of difficulty

991
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:42,080
because next point commissioner but
that's a perfect opportunity for me to

992
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:47,520
come up here as we continue with
comments and that is to invite you all

993
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:54,960
including staff to visit our hall
services, take a look at the logistics,

994
01:36:50,960 --> 01:37:02,320
how the operation actually works and um
uh it may give us all I think a better

995
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:05,320
idea of what to expect what
any

996
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:13,497
we'll hear from the one guy who could
build this whole place

997
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,880
right
[clears throat] Good. I'm not changing.

998
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:21,119
» First of all, I just want to start off
by thanking all the community that came

999
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:25,520
tonight participation.
Um

1000
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:28,880
I
or Chris already talked about at the

1001
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:33,280
beginning, but one thing that really is
important to me,

1002
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:38,159
especially the thought, is hiding all
the MVPs, whether that be on the roof

1003
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:42,239
and all the electrical panels, gas,
meters, all that stuff from the

1004
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:48,719
frontage.
Um

1005
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:54,800
the the road that was drawn in on the
left side of the parcel. I just wanted

1006
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:59,840
to know is that just a random rendering
or did we have any kind of traffic

1007
01:37:56,719 --> 01:38:04,400
impact that has decided this location
for the project?

1008
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:07,600
» Did you inspection
spot going into the building?

1009
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:12,880
» Yes.
So I think what we were talking about

1010
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:17,119
was that if you see the plan there's the
property line that jumps into the

1011
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:26,880
» product.
>> The only way to avoid um having the init

1012
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:32,320
the previous proposal showed the entry
to the right side of that. As a result

1013
01:38:29,679 --> 01:38:37,119
it pushed the building almost again
property line and there was no way to

1014
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:40,560
put something there. with parking lot
and then there's a building all the way

1015
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:48,400
along.
So our intention in this version was to

1016
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:54,560
say can we move just the parking area I
mean the entrance driveway further away

1017
01:38:52,080 --> 01:39:03,119
and push the building as close as we can
to that corner without intruding on the

1018
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:09,119
zoning or the other side. So that sort
of dictated that. So it came about as a

1019
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:14,159
result that there was traffic study
conducted earlier

1020
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:20,719
» and I don't know if it's probably
beneficial to move it further away from

1021
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:24,639
Monterey um because it just gives that
much more room for parking. I mean the

1022
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:30,880
cars to stack up,
>> right? I just wanted to see if that was

1023
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:34,560
like you know put in there.
>> Um

1024
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:39,440
Oh, I just want to know the purpose of
the garage for me. Oh, that's right.

1025
01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:45,520
Somebody did ask that question. So, the
garage, they do have some um

1026
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:54,000
ambulances and stuff like that. They
just want to be able to park at night.

1027
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:58,880
It's not meant for the staff.
Is it for cars or trucks?

1028
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:06,159
That's all I have for you. I just want
to say from the first time I heard about

1029
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:11,199
this project, I've been really excited.
I'm glad that it's coming this far so

1030
01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:14,880
far. Um, and even though somebody said
that they won't we won't be getting, you

1031
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:17,840
know, direct tax on it, but we will be
receiving indirect tax benefits on

1032
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:23,440
Friday.
>> And the community gets help. Yeah. The

1033
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:26,440
biggest one really like if we help our
community

1034
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:31,159
benefit overall everybody.

1035
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:40,360
» Okay,
here I'll go.

1036
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:48,960
» I'm going to start with just a few
comments first. I think he was coming on

1037
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:53,080
terra observations about what are the
department missions.

1038
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:59,679
So, I was on that planning commission um
that approved those designs and I'll be

1039
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:05,280
the first person to say they were
horrible and I'm so thankful that you

1040
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:10,000
and Richard and Georgiana and everyone
coales that you did whatever the design

1041
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:16,080
now I think should win some kind of an
award so much improved over what was

1042
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:20,159
first
approved by the branch commission went

1043
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:25,280
on appeal with city council and so on so
on that

1044
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:32,119
On one note, I'll also be the first to
admit we got parking wrong.

1045
01:41:28,239 --> 01:41:32,119
We got parking real

1046
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:45,280
soliguration
whatever but be mindful of that

1047
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:50,880
opportunity to fix mission garden
parking which is awesome. Um that leads

1048
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:56,719
me to the next thing which is kind of
more organic. Uh you know if you look at

1049
01:41:53,119 --> 01:42:03,679
the city you see the the mission is the
centerpiece our crown jewels it's on our

1050
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:09,320
logo and not the county logo if you've
ever noticed that. So mission satisfa

1051
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:19,600
our little community is the mission and
I always I've been doing stuff for San

1052
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:24,719
and the county for 30 years all my life.
I've always been mindful of the mission

1053
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:29,600
and all I mean again and ends with the
mission. So I try to keep that as the

1054
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:33,040
centerpiece as I think it should be.
along those lines. Then we had some

1055
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:38,320
opportunities come up for the quarter
gallon and 166 and that grocery store

1056
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:42,639
car remember when that first came in it
that was not awful. There's a grocery

1057
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:47,679
store in the strip
called the strip owners just awful and

1058
01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:52,080
nobody got sent back. No, that's not it.
That's not quite finally after all these

1059
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:57,280
different iterations.
the owners came back with what you see

1060
01:42:53,600 --> 01:43:00,639
today which is a barn and a it looks
like it's been there 100 years and I

1061
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:06,719
think that project and that architecture
should also win an award. Then when it

1062
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:11,600
came time to develop candy corner
u that that owner first proposed

1063
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:15,600
something that one of my architect
friends especially called the circle K

1064
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:19,760
in Fresno and it was terrible. It was
like what the heck is this for? One

1065
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:25,520
person started jumping up and down. What
is it? It looked it could be anywhere.

1066
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:29,920
Not here. And so I called Cara. I called
Andy G. I called the historical lady. I

1067
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:34,880
said, "What was that corner used for
historically?" Oh, that Mr. Ty sheep

1068
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:38,800
ranch. Ah, perfect. Oh, the sheep ranch.
Let's do something like that. Kind of

1069
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:42,159
more of a barn kind of vernacular. That
way the wind the window market and that

1070
01:43:40,719 --> 01:43:46,239
property will kind of communicate, kind
of talk to each other. But more

1071
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:51,679
importantly, it looks like things that
could have surrounded the mission back

1072
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:56,159
in the day. So what are the things that
supported the mission want to be organic

1073
01:43:53,760 --> 01:44:00,159
to this community and look like it's
been there look like it exist and that's

1074
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:03,600
why I'm going to go with these comments
and I don't want to design the I'm going

1075
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:09,040
to kind of read these because this
project is so important that's another

1076
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:14,800
editorial comment for all that time
that corner that gas station has come up

1077
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:19,040
a lot
she her vision for that she said Joe we

1078
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:24,639
should put
If you guys can really show me I think

1079
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:30,000
it's like I think but it's in the south
cafe want to show me. So the idea was I

1080
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:35,840
think Chris pointed this out a very
valuable corner both prominence

1081
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:41,440
proximity to things.
So when this project came up after 30

1082
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:46,000
years of thinking about that corner I
thought oh man okay we got to get this

1083
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:53,520
one right. I took the time to prepare
some topics that I go over right now.

1084
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:59,199
And I put the first thing I put by
talking about

1085
01:44:56,639 --> 01:45:03,679
because this is an extraordinary site in
an extraordinary town. Whatever

1086
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:07,679
ultimately occupies that site will be
here for generations. And because of it

1087
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:12,800
size and location, this project will
become an important part of how people

1088
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:18,320
experience our town.
I understand Foundation has substantial

1089
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:24,400
programs they need to accommodate and
footnote program or a program

1090
01:45:21,679 --> 01:45:30,560
architecture architect lingo for what is
the building supposed to do is that

1091
01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:35,280
right what's supposed to be inside there
how's all going to work the program

1092
01:45:32,719 --> 01:45:40,159
» that's going to come up tomorrow
>> and again not also by way of full

1093
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:43,840
disclosure the program of the health
foundation is near and dear to my heart

1094
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:49,119
I was on the board of directors years
with Victoria and another traveled with

1095
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:54,320
her Washington which I understand she is
right now. Um, so I know about the

1096
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:58,159
mission and the mission statement of the
foundation. I know program vital for

1097
01:45:56,719 --> 01:46:02,320
this community and I could not agree
more. You're not going to see anything

1098
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:07,280
from me tonight even questioning that
program or what you guys are about. It's

1099
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:11,560
all going to be designed. the calmer and
the aesthetics on what we're doing that

1100
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:19,119
the square of this building is real and
the tremendous public service the

1101
01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:24,320
organization provides to our community
is real but and

1102
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,760
forgive me but these comments are
directly going to be towards you as the

1103
01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:31,520
designer
>> and turns to me I've been trying to meet

1104
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:35,280
with you for a long time as he'll back
me up on that night let's have coffee

1105
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:39,119
with your design picture was really
stoked that you came on or we got a new

1106
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:45,040
designer. Great, you know, let's do it.
Let's talk. So, I'm having that talk.

1107
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:48,960
It's even better now.
The program does not dictate the

1108
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:53,920
architectural expression of that
program.

1109
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:58,400
Therefore, it question what if it isn't
one building? Looking at the current

1110
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:03,280
proposed design is already trying to
address the problem of math and scale.

1111
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:07,760
You see different lines, cables,
arcades, balconies, reset, elements,

1112
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:14,000
towers, and changes in elevation. All
very trying to break up that math. I

1113
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:19,360
know you're trying to do a very job put
on that really quickly. So Ming a couple

1114
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:26,000
times and said, you know, I think based
on that curation, awful. I said, you

1115
01:47:22,239 --> 01:47:31,280
know, would be great lean kind of tor
mentioned this building certainly does

1116
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:35,119
that. Camaro Centur LC that kind of
vernacular down there definitely kind of

1117
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:40,320
is leaning in that direction and
therefore makes great improvements very

1118
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:46,400
building and that's that's the issue
right now is it size and it's mass

1119
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:51,280
the architecture is already working to
make one very large building appear to

1120
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:55,119
be in collaboration smaller build so I
want to ask more fundamental question

1121
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:59,760
why does that have to be one building at
all what if we took the entire health

1122
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:05,119
foundation program and distributed it
among individual buildings were

1123
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:10,080
necessary certainly but experience as a
collection of buildings rather than a

1124
01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:16,560
single institutional structure
and I thought about that and the history

1125
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:21,600
of what
surrounded the mission in the late 1800s

1126
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:28,960
I came up with this concept and make my
work by analogy Estantia

1127
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:34,159
and that that analogy keeps coming back
to me. Estantia. Imagine a small Estonia

1128
01:48:31,679 --> 01:48:37,520
that develops organically over time.
Perhaps a principal building occurs

1129
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:42,159
followed by another structure when
another function is needed. Then

1130
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:46,159
another, a courtyard emerges with us, a
garden wall, a gate, an arcade, a

1131
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:49,840
covered path from one building to
another. Different buildings have

1132
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:53,679
different heights, masses, and degrees
of architectural importance. And

1133
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:58,800
importantly, the space between the
buildings becomes architecture too.

1134
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:03,520
Instead of parking lot and enormous
building, the experience can become

1135
01:49:01,199 --> 01:49:07,520
street, walls, gate, courtyard, garden,
arcade, building, passage, and other

1136
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:12,000
courtyards and other buildings. It
becomes something you move through and

1137
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:15,000
discover rather than a single object you
appreciate.

1138
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:28,000
Yeah, it's like a little ranch type
supportive enclave compound that

1139
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:32,400
prevalent in early California that and
it's not like they would have served

1140
01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:37,040
permission in some way. They supportive
of but they were kind of almost

1141
01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:41,600
self-contained but there clusters of
buildings that made sense together but

1142
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:46,480
like like I just said they didn't all
develop all at once. They were kind of

1143
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:53,480
accumulated over time. So you think like
Emily building what's that called adobe

1144
01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:53,480
for building

1145
01:49:53,679 --> 01:50:04,080
the cutest little adobe but it's humble
it's not carpet at all it's a beautiful

1146
01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:10,159
old building something I think of it we
have another little adobe that's

1147
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:14,719
original on our town on the corner
another little humble great structure so

1148
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:18,600
collections of buildings like all
connected in the way that things

1149
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:31,280
in that fashion become
architecture too

1150
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:37,520
become something you look through and
discovered um etc. I'm not suggesting

1151
01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:42,239
that we reproduce a historic
or create a historical data set. This

1152
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:48,159
must be thoroughly this must be a
thoroughly modern healthcare.

1153
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:52,880
What I am suggesting
is that we learn from the way these

1154
01:50:50,639 --> 01:50:57,360
places grow, their scale, their
hierarchy, their irregularity,

1155
01:50:55,199 --> 01:51:02,320
courtyard, wall, landscape,
relationships among individual buildings

1156
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:07,280
and ask whether those principles can
accommodate a modern healthcare program.

1157
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:13,040
That's the opportunity. The health
foundation doesn't need less programs.

1158
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:17,840
It doesn't need beer examination rooms,
beer offices or less capacity.

1159
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:22,960
I think it needs a different
architectural idea for containing that

1160
01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:26,960
program. But I think this site presents
a rare opportunity to do something much

1161
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:31,159
more ambitious than making a large
institutional building compatible.

1162
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:38,400
This building doesn't merely need to be
compatible.

1163
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:43,840
it has the opportunity to become a part
of what is

1164
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:47,760
if we can accommodate that I think we
have created something that doesn't

1165
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:52,560
simply avoid farming and historic
community

1166
01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:58,679
do it
and I just wanted to point out

1167
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,679
made a good observation

1168
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:05,560
of the Sure.

1169
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,520
Also for design

1170
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:25,119
hospital that's a great example
design really great.

1171
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:31,480
So those are my comments and in short to
summarize all of that can we make this

1172
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:31,480
building

1173
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:37,719
I think the limitation that I find is

1174
01:52:38,719 --> 01:52:47,199
» can I
um I have heard as I'm sure you did too

1175
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:51,599
I'm sure Victor
my case on this is that we have any

1176
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:55,599
problem adjusting lines
common zoning champion to get the right

1177
01:52:54,639 --> 01:53:00,320
project.
>> In other words, if we

1178
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:05,920
» I'm going to say that.
>> That's why I kind of guess that's where

1179
01:53:02,639 --> 01:53:10,480
you're going, right? No, I think that I
think the proposition to this community

1180
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:13,920
is we can have some smaller buildings
that all look like they make sense, you

1181
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:17,199
know, and could have developed over time
supportive of emissions that people come

1182
01:53:15,679 --> 01:53:21,840
up to this town and go, "Wow, what's
that? I don't believe that."

1183
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:28,760
then we will we will do whatever we can
to accommodate you right

1184
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,760
» I got knowledge

1185
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:35,040
» there you go
>> because that that was a constraint like

1186
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:40,159
and I got involved I said okay what can
I do here

1187
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:44,000
» bless you for right so now maybe now
maybe you can get really creative okay

1188
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:47,199
» and really go and really kind of get
into it a little bit come back something

1189
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:52,719
really
>> again the building that you designed is

1190
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:56,719
gorgeous in camera.
>> Yeah,

1191
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:59,280
» it's really kind of big here. 10,000
square feet bigger than I want to

1192
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:04,960
mention.
>> The problem is like it had to it ended

1193
01:54:02,639 --> 01:54:08,960
up getting stacked.
>> If you see that, you can see like

1194
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:14,960
literally it's like a sliver,
>> right? And I can't like then talk to

1195
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:19,440
Ariel like I was hoping she'd allow just
a little bit over there then I can

1196
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:24,400
spread it out but like for me it have to
and then you don't have any relaxed

1197
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:28,159
parking requirements everything has to
be accommodated on site

1198
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:34,159
» and it either became a parking field or
like and even if I were to stag building

1199
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:39,920
I think probably another thing would be
the relaxation on the requirement of

1200
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:47,840
parking because in the same thing. The
more parking you provide, the less there

1201
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:54,960
is to build on. Let's look at that.
>> So, um through this chair, it is okay.

1202
01:54:50,960 --> 01:55:03,280
um that did take a look at it and you
could uh in the zoning um table um you

1203
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:08,400
could change it to allow for clinic and
it would still be consist of the general

1204
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:11,599
plan and so it would be a zoning um a
>> great

1205
01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:16,000
» and then you would have three parcels
>> you'd be able to work with

1206
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:21,239
» and I think we could I'm not mistaken
that application be extend.

1207
01:55:23,599 --> 01:55:31,440
» Yes, there would be one application that
would include uh tax amendment and

1208
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:37,840
whether or not you still need to do what
adjustment go back.

1209
01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:43,599
» So is that concurrent or
concurrent? It would be with your

1210
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:51,599
application would just be um site design
with a zoning and approved. However, the

1211
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:56,239
site design um is approved at planning
commission level and zing is a

1212
01:55:54,639 --> 01:56:02,040
legislative
planning commission recommending that

1213
01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:02,040
piece of it.

1214
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:08,800
But um
when you're making those amendments,

1215
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:14,119
you're finding that it's um consistent
and you're implementing a general plan

1216
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,119
and a

1217
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:23,599
» agreed on something already.
>> I think I think that that's critical

1218
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:29,199
like as long as
>> programmatic requirements are met, you

1219
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:32,639
can address the community and
commissioners like we want to create a

1220
01:56:31,119 --> 01:56:36,719
good project. You want to create
something that's your own product like

1221
01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:43,080
like
it needs to be in

1222
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:43,080
» again right

1223
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:50,040
» and along those lines it's als

1224
01:56:57,599 --> 01:57:04,719
very great very important to dialogue
>> absolutely and then down the road we You

1225
01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:10,760
can think about like what the story
like what everybody is looking at what

1226
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,760
scale is

1227
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,960
» public

1228
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:29,920
as a board member.
I didn't miss and then I have been learn

1229
01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:35,360
a lot. But I think you guys have to be
more positive

1230
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:43,599
because as you go on and on and on and
on, we get into the negative. I'm here

1231
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:50,080
saying that we're going to do it how the
dream has been planned. And we're lucky

1232
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:56,159
we have a CEO who is very good at
writing grant and going to every place

1233
01:57:52,960 --> 01:58:00,639
where she can get the support. I'm here
not to give her credit,

1234
01:57:58,239 --> 01:58:05,599
» but let's give her the chance to prove
that this county can be better.

1235
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:10,080
» The first thing that has to be done here
is take care of public transportation.

1236
01:58:08,719 --> 01:58:13,440
» That's the first thing.
>> Victoria, the public comment closed. We

1237
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:16,960
encourage you and no one has expressed
any negativity of that. I'm sorry about

1238
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:18,639
the health foundation. Everyone very
very supportive. We're just trying to

1239
01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:23,599
come up.
>> Okay. I want to thank you ahead of time

1240
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:29,199
if that happen right now because I'm not
very good in one year. I only hear part

1241
01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:36,599
and so because I want the conflict I
came here with a faith and an open

1242
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:36,599
minded that we wouldn't pick

1243
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:44,840
afterward.
Okay.

1244
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,840
Are there any

1245
01:58:50,880 --> 01:59:02,000
really quick just request um uh there
archives or anything like that regarding

1246
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:06,159
the the front edge improvement or the
streets right away plan or anything that

1247
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:12,400
you have? We appreciate that. that will
help us with obviously design but yes I

1248
01:59:09,679 --> 01:59:21,239
just want to second your motion Mr. sure
that uh what you have collectively said

1249
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:21,239
today is yet how do we get to

1250
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:31,960
and I think it did really great
things really really great like market

1251
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,199
who designed

1252
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:47,400
give him an award
Okay, that's it for the commissioner

1253
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,400
comment.

1254
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:53,199
Ariel's
going to change down stuff for you, I'm

1255
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:57,639
sure.
>> Yes, that was all I was going to add.

1256
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:07,040
» All right, great. Thank you everyone for
that presentation and as Nick said a

1257
02:00:04,719 --> 02:00:10,040
couple
dialog

1258
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:23,080
and next up is
something equally exciting about their

1259
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:23,080
magician

1260
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:31,199
all the way down
with anybody

1261
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:34,920
the next step.
>> Great.

1262
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,920
» Thank you.

1263
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:45,800
You want the death

1264
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:16,400
on?
Yeah. Okay.

1265
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:24,480
» Okay. This is the conditional permit for
a 225 foot.

1266
02:01:20,239 --> 02:01:27,480
We go from 40,000 square feet to 225T
bathroom.

1267
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,840
Okay.

1268
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:37,719
» I actually going to pass it off to
Victor, our associate manager.

1269
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:43,360
» Thank you. Good evening, chair,
commissioners, and members of the

1270
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:49,840
public. I'm Victor, associate planner
with the city of South Mata. Tonight, I

1271
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:54,639
will be discussing um PLN 260006, the GR
conditioning use permit located at 8:30

1272
02:01:52,719 --> 02:02:01,040
Mission Vineyard. The applicant is
requesting an approval to add 225 ft to

1273
02:01:58,239 --> 02:02:04,960
the existing residence for primary bath
and walking cost.

1274
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:11,520
With that introduction, let's begin with
a quick overview of presentation.

1275
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:16,880
So tonight um our discussion will focus
on the project location background land

1276
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:23,840
use consistency used for the findings
and staff recommendation. Let's begin

1277
02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:28,560
with the project location.
The proposed project is located at 830

1278
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:31,560
mission vineyard. The assessor number is
002-550-0

1279
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:41,440
and the property is approximately
1.04 zero acres

1280
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:47,520
map on screen show general location of
the property near San

1281
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:51,599
road and state rout
next I will provide some background on

1282
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:55,639
the property and explain why additional
use permit is required

1283
02:02:55,679 --> 02:03:02,320
already has an industrial general plan
designation and industrial zoning the

1284
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:08,080
existing home that was before the
property was added to the city before

1285
02:03:04,639 --> 02:03:13,280
current industrial only.
For that reason, the resident is

1286
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:17,119
considered illegal on use. This means
the home was lawful when it was

1287
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:22,880
established, but it's not a use that
would be normally allowed in the current

1288
02:03:19,119 --> 02:03:28,080
zoning. The home may continue to be
used. However, chapter 11-15 of the

1289
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:34,480
municipal code requires that a condition
use permit before the residential use um

1290
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:41,119
may be expanded. The planning commission
set up the project on a preliminary

1291
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:46,159
basis on June 23 or no formal action was
taken during that meeting. Tonight the

1292
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:49,480
formal public hearing on the additional
use per

1293
02:03:52,880 --> 02:04:00,639
to allow a 225
foot addition to the existing residence.

1294
02:03:58,719 --> 02:04:05,599
The addition would contain a primary
bathroom and a walk-in closet. The plan

1295
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:11,920
on the screen shows where the addition
would be attached to the existing home.

1296
02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:16,320
The project would not have a bedroom
unit or change the existing res. The

1297
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:20,800
commission will be asked to consider
only the limited addition the existing

1298
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:26,199
home. The next slide will provide a
close look at plan layout of the

1299
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:26,199
addition.

1300
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:37,280
The existing residence contains 152 ft.
The proposed addition would add 225

1301
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:41,679
square ft resulting in total floor area
of 1,277

1302
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:48,360
square feet. The addition would remain
single story but were not included

1303
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:48,360
bedroom or separate unit.

1304
02:04:51,040 --> 02:05:00,119
So the general plan designation zoning
for the property are both industrial

1305
02:04:55,440 --> 02:05:00,119
although resident resilition

1306
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:06,639
must comply with the residential
development standards of the industrial

1307
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:09,639
zoning district. The property contains
45,32

1308
02:05:09,679 --> 02:05:20,880
square ft which exceeds the 1,00 square
foot in the lot area. The lot is 225.8

1309
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:29,040
98 py which exceeds the 100 foot
minimum. The floor area ratio is 0.076

1310
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:36,000
below the 0.15 maximum. The building
coverage is 0.8.08

1311
02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:45,360
below the 0.90 max. The propose height
is 12 ft 9 in below the 50 foot maximum.

1312
02:05:40,719 --> 02:05:50,280
The rear setback is 41 ft of inches
which seats a 20 foot minimum. Before

1313
02:05:52,400 --> 02:06:00,000
approving the conditional use permit,
the planning commission must make three

1314
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:04,400
required findings. First finding is that
the use is necessary or desirable in

1315
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:10,480
relation to the general land zoning
ordinance economic social environmental

1316
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:15,920
status of city. The second finding is
that the use related to nearby uses,

1317
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:20,320
transportation and public facilities and
were not a cause undue environmental

1318
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:27,440
impact. The third finding is the use
would not adversely affect the health or

1319
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:32,400
safety of the public the vicinity or be
detrimental to the public welfare.

1320
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:38,800
based on the limited scope of the
project, it's in compliance with the

1321
02:06:35,599 --> 02:06:44,520
development standards and absence.
Um that can make all three findings

1322
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:56,880
regarding SQUA. Um the project qualifies
for a class one categorical exemption

1323
02:06:54,639 --> 02:07:05,960
for existing facilities. The existing
resident could contain 1,52

1324
02:07:00,159 --> 02:07:05,960
ft 50% the floor area ratio 526.

1325
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:16,159
Um the 90 step is recommend that the
planning commission review the staff

1326
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:20,320
board for the public hearing and hearing
component and deployment of the project.

1327
02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:26,639
adopt the draft resolution including
find condition of approval approval of

1328
02:07:24,159 --> 02:07:34,119
the condition use permit and find the
project

1329
02:07:28,719 --> 02:07:34,119
under SQA class one utilities

1330
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:40,239
and with that that concludes my
presentation I'm available to answer any

1331
02:07:38,719 --> 02:07:45,920
questions the commission may have and
the applicant is online as well if you

1332
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:48,639
have any questions for them okay thank
you very

1333
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,040
Unless

1334
02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,040
take a moment

1335
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:24,400
just really the hitt did some kind of a
sale coke with a well and whatever and

1336
02:08:20,239 --> 02:08:28,480
fashion red that area industrial even
though all the house was already on it.

1337
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:32,239
It was already residential, but they
needed the restroom. So now you got to

1338
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:36,599
take some active Congress to make the
bathroom because of the zoning.

1339
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:43,880
» We talked about that. Can't we just undo
that? But every time he changed

1340
02:08:45,199 --> 02:08:51,520
as I was apparently now that's like a
big deal, too. Like

1341
02:08:51,199 --> 02:08:54,400
you
>> not

1342
02:08:53,119 --> 02:08:56,960
possible for them,
>> but

1343
02:08:55,119 --> 02:09:02,320
» but it's just the way it is. So we all
we have been able to do is try to

1344
02:08:58,719 --> 02:09:05,800
expedite through blah blah blah
but I still

1345
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,280
regul

1346
02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:30,800
if you want I can help address one of
the options available we can discuss it

1347
02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:38,079
further um in um our item six uh is one
of the things you can do is um you can

1348
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:46,800
connect your um nonconforming
um uses uh with minor modifications. So

1349
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:54,880
allow for certain extent um to to be
done um things like you know setbacks or

1350
02:09:51,199 --> 02:09:58,639
addition up to a certain percentage um
requiring

1351
02:09:56,560 --> 02:10:03,320
the construction. So that's something
consider when looking at

1352
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:13,239
your point
of longterm.

1353
02:10:15,199 --> 02:10:24,360
Okay. Um or Sarah, are you both here? Do
you have anything you want to add to the

1354
02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:24,360
report or are you good?

1355
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:35,560
anything you want to add.

1356
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:43,079
No. Okay.

1357
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:46,199
Microphone.

1358
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:54,400
Okay. Well, we'll take that.

1359
02:10:54,960 --> 02:11:04,360
So are there any comments from the
public on this agenda item? We do not

1360
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:04,360
have any chambers or

1361
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:17,079
anyone is interested in making a motion.
I would recommend that

1362
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:17,079
motion

1363
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:23,639
you're good to go.
This is

1364
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:32,400
that
move to adopt a resolution approving

1365
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:38,800
conditional use permit PLN20
uh 006 to allow 225 foot addition to an

1366
02:11:36,639 --> 02:11:44,400
existing law performing single family
resident

1367
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:50,000
road APN 002550019
subject to the conditions approval and

1368
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:57,679
finance project category we California
Environmental Quality Act pursuant to

1369
02:11:52,719 --> 02:12:01,840
SQL guidelines section 15301 E1 class
one existing facility.

1370
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:04,840
» Thank you.
>> Second

1371
02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:11,440
of course commissioner
>> I

1372
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:15,880
commission
>> Commissioner

1373
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:15,880
» Hi.

1374
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:22,360
Thank you for hanging in there.

1375
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:33,960
» Yeah, that's right.
All right.

1376
02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:40,360
situation.

1377
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:59,360
» It was on the agenda. Do you continue?
So you just want to release that

1378
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:02,599
information
next month.

1379
02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:07,159
continue.

1380
02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:15,159
Now 7 A
compleate

1381
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:22,199
a time estimate at this point

1382
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,360
and I know

1383
02:13:29,432 --> 02:13:31,452
» [clears throat]

1384
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:42,360
» Is this a good

1385
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:55,199
» There's a lot that we could discuss in
um uh the zoning code. I

1386
02:13:51,360 --> 02:14:01,840
if you want I can
I probably have

1387
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:06,880
15 minutes of PowerPoint presentation
and then I'm sure

1388
02:14:04,639 --> 02:14:10,360
it is up to your guys's discussion to
continue or

1389
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:14,360
think

1390
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:27,760
» um I would suggest that we give back
uh or suggest the staff they focus on

1391
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:32,079
legal conflict and conflicts within. So
in other words, conflicts with state and

1392
02:14:29,679 --> 02:14:39,760
federal regulations within the current
code and conflict within the code uh

1393
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:45,679
where there's um differing uh direction
within the existing zoning code. take

1394
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:53,040
over the first two priorities for moving
forward and that we can leave this item

1395
02:14:49,040 --> 02:15:00,000
for a more comprehensive conversation.
>> I agree with that and and want to thank

1396
02:14:56,159 --> 02:15:04,960
and commend Mr. for
pointing that out and also make the

1397
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:09,040
observation that that's probably one
hour

1398
02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:14,560
that went through.
>> Exactly. But I do almost like workshop I

1399
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:19,679
think.
>> Yeah. And through the commission I can

1400
02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:26,159
also work with you to schedule a special
meeting just on this item.

1401
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:34,320
» It will it will be a good amount of
keeping a part of trying to get to the

1402
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:40,400
good entry to um you know
you know. So just I can quickly give you

1403
02:15:37,199 --> 02:15:46,480
like some maybe help two or three minute
feel but uh for the ADU ordinance part

1404
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:56,639
of why that was come forward was because
um our

1405
02:15:48,960 --> 02:16:03,119
state law and two of Ju um and um
is the water um

1406
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:08,159
or that is in that one that we'll need
to bring forward because that one is

1407
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:15,440
also uh we need to make sure that that's
in our ordinance. Um as we exhausted our

1408
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:23,760
six housing uh our six cycle housing
element um there's also uh some pieces

1409
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:31,920
of um residential that we have to um
update as as far as that's you know just

1410
02:16:27,199 --> 02:16:39,599
a few examples about um and then as we
have heard just tonight and then some we

1411
02:16:35,519 --> 02:16:47,679
we've addressed um you know uses in mix
in misuse such as um allowing for

1412
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:54,719
clinics or um the um
allowing for minor modification

1413
02:16:51,200 --> 02:17:01,359
um and and things like that. part of
tonight's uh discussion

1414
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:06,240
um was going to look, you know, to kind
of look at

1415
02:17:03,439 --> 02:17:11,599
taking our ordinance um and looking at
as a short downtown and separating that

1416
02:17:08,639 --> 02:17:17,599
out of the land uses outside of that
because signs needed in our store

1417
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:22,880
compared to signs needed outside or
permit streamlining

1418
02:17:19,679 --> 02:17:29,679
um by but still needing the historic um
uh design guideline requirements

1419
02:17:26,479 --> 02:17:33,679
um by allowing for business reuse. And
so that was kind of some of those

1420
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:38,719
opening discussion. Um as one of the
items from the economic development

1421
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:42,960
discussion with the council looking at
the retail formula outside of the

1422
02:17:40,559 --> 02:17:48,080
downtown business. Um another item that
had been part of the presentation was um

1423
02:17:45,599 --> 02:17:51,599
also looking um it's called an
entertainment district and looking at

1424
02:17:49,679 --> 02:18:00,479
the downtown entertainment district.
This would be um simply put allowing um

1425
02:17:56,160 --> 02:18:06,080
on certain days or times uh the ability
to um block with alcohol beverages, you

1426
02:18:04,319 --> 02:18:12,080
know, for monthly students, but just
exploring different ideas

1427
02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:17,679
um to bring people downtown and focusing
on downtown getting businesses downtown.

1428
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:22,319
Um and then also looking at it that it's
a completely different context from your

1429
02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:28,160
other um mixed use and commercial
locations like others right that we've

1430
02:18:24,719 --> 02:18:37,519
discussed and so um and looking at our
code to kind of distinguish that and um

1431
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:44,880
bring business in but also keep good.
So that was that was a modified version

1432
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:50,719
of what the the presentation was and It
could it can take it will take probably

1433
02:18:47,359 --> 02:18:57,040
several meetings um
uh but we can we can bring some pieces

1434
02:18:53,359 --> 02:19:00,040
forward um and then we can talk about
session

1435
02:19:03,519 --> 02:19:13,519
» I'd like to ask a quick question is
there any um time frame that we're up

1436
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:18,120
against here in regards to our decision
on

1437
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:18,120
question.

1438
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:29,679
» I didn't answer the AU ordinance they
wanted yesterday. So, of course, we're

1439
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:37,359
behind schedule. So, that's why that one
being pulled out ahead and um though

1440
02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:45,120
that you haven't come in yet. Um
but some of those staff is taking

1441
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:45,120
inspiration just working to

1442
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:52,560
I'm certainly not opposed to pushing
this on to the next meeting. Um I love

1443
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:56,000
the idea of doing a special meeting
where it's almost more like training

1444
02:19:53,920 --> 02:20:01,439
where we get a map of data dump all this
information. We're focused on the zoning

1445
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:06,000
section 11. You give it to us, we absorb
it and we go from there. So if you guys

1446
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:12,280
aren't opposed to this, I would say
instead of pushing you out to our next

1447
02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:12,280
meeting, let's do a special.

1448
02:20:12,479 --> 02:20:16,359
Yeah, there's a lot

1449
02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:26,120
here.
I make a motion that

1450
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:34,359
we we continue a
compet

1451
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:46,920
workshop,

1452
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:51,479
whatever.

1453
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:05,080
Not your pleasure.

1454
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:17,160
» Of course. Commissioner,
>> Commissioner K, Commissioner,

1455
02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:17,160
» Commissioner,

1456
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:20,840
» Motion.

1457
02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:30,399
This will be one of them.
Um,

1458
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:35,160
did you would you like to do your
commissioner

1459
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:35,160
comments?

1460
02:21:56,960 --> 02:22:06,479
Yeah, we spoke last weekend last week
about the

1461
02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:11,520
» influence.
manager come

1462
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:18,240
I just that's what I that and the
historic preservation

1463
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:24,840
or worked on but not that
>> yes I have I have some

1464
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,840
um

1465
02:22:24,880 --> 02:22:30,359
» yeah I'm just I'm suggesting that those
are future agenda

1466
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:37,520
» um okay
>> we're still on so

1467
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:46,120
» there are a separate committee. Um, but
I can I can respond to it.

1468
02:22:41,439 --> 02:22:46,120
» My thought is

1469
02:22:51,359 --> 02:23:00,800
» that was included in my presentation on
>> do the whole signage

1470
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:08,800
part of that
>> signage is in title 11.

1471
02:23:04,880 --> 02:23:14,399
I know it is alone. I know because I sat
here

1472
02:23:10,880 --> 02:23:18,960
before. You hear that?
>> Oh my goodness. If someone posts going

1473
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:22,240
out of business, how long should that
How many times can they go out of

1474
02:23:20,319 --> 02:23:26,720
business? [laughter]
Legit question. Should there be

1475
02:23:24,399 --> 02:23:31,280
regulation on that? And what are those?
Are those temporary sign? If so, how

1476
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:40,479
big? And I mean, you can talk for hours
just online. We can absolutely break

1477
02:23:34,960 --> 02:23:43,479
that up with um discuss more
>> neon

1478
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:54,240
she just went remember the neon
internally illuminated by externally

1479
02:23:51,359 --> 02:23:57,479
eliminated
>> all that

1480
02:23:57,520 --> 02:24:06,040
and you have to be kind of granular on
that you know there's no there's no real

1481
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:06,040
internally.

1482
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:24,640
Yeah, we can um we can do an intro as
part of the hood updates and then we can

1483
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:29,359
also have
why don't you figure out what the

1484
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:33,520
construction look like
this figure out.

1485
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:36,520
» Okay, you got it.
Okay.

1486
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:45,040
» Um, I just have one comment I spoke to.
I thought tonight was very constructive.

1487
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:50,680
I thought it was positive. Yes, I am. My
glass is helpful, not empty. And I will

1488
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:50,680
always be that way.

1489
02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:57,280
So, I am very excited to see this
project up and running. And with that

1490
02:24:55,840 --> 02:25:03,040
being said, I would also like to
formally announce that I'm running.

1491
02:25:00,319 --> 02:25:09,720
So there are three seats available and I
am hoping to be elected to one of them.

1492
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:09,720
Thank you.

1493
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:16,280
» Congratulations on your candid

1494
02:25:19,359 --> 02:25:28,200
members joining. We appreciate it.
Baptism by fire

1495
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:35,920
glad to be here. I'm excited and thank
you for today.

1496
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:40,439
» That's right.
Because every time I watch this on

1497
02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:40,439
YouTube

1498
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:04,600
in the first especially

1499
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» I thought it was very

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02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:17,800
all kinds of different input that was
wonderful.

1501
02:26:20,319 --> 02:26:28,479
So now
so um

1502
02:26:25,439 --> 02:26:36,800
uh staff is
preparing items um to have uh our urban

1503
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:41,840
road boundary meeting. We'll need to
actually do it not on the regular

1504
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:47,920
meeting. So we'll be sending out session
meeting but it will be in the middle of

1505
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:54,080
September. And um so I'm working with
the consultant and then I'll be with

1506
02:26:50,319 --> 02:27:03,680
members to make sure that they can sort
of the options work. Um and then um for

1507
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:10,960
the historic ordinance we just you know
we finished wrapping up edits we believe

1508
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:17,680
um the intent and we finished all the
mapping um but the that staff

1509
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:25,920
um piece
isn't done. So, um if we had a meeting

1510
02:27:22,399 --> 02:27:33,439
in the month of uh September, it would
just be on those um

1511
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:39,680
uh two those two uh portions and we
could continue that for a later date.

1512
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:43,479
But you can see that we've done the new
round of edit

1513
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:47,720
will not be available.

1514
02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:58,720
Okay. Then um then we will we'll work on
the the scheduling on on that item

1515
02:27:56,880 --> 02:28:05,040
that'll give us the time to maybe finish
that last but

1516
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:11,439
of those items.
It sounds like the end of our falling

1517
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:17,160
into winter is going to be very busy
with meeting.

1518
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:17,160
You guys are all

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02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:34,120
move to
>> second.

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02:28:30,240 --> 02:28:34,120
» Thank you everyone. Great.