1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 We'll go to evening. I'm Mayor Erica A. Stewart, and I'm here to say that the entire council is present. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 And with that, we'll start us off with the pledge of the legions from Council Member Marks. 3 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Thank you. And today we get to start off with a proclamation. 4 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:50,000 We have Tobin Johnson, who will be receiving that. And then after we get done reading the proclamation, I'll bring it down to you. 5 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:57,000 So you can have three minutes to share about reviewing and about your organizations. 6 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:18,000 And with that, whereas the city of San Luis Obispo is committed to creating a community where every resident is treated with dignity, respect, and fairness, whereas lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer members of the community are valued, and their contributions enrich the civic cultural and economic life of our city. 7 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:30,000 The month of June is nationally recognized as Pride Month, honoring the history, resilience, and ongoing percent, sorry, ongoing pursuit of equality for LGBTQIA plus people. 8 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Whereas the city of San Luis Obispo continues to work along community alongside community partners, organizations, and residents to increase belonging, connection, and safety for LGBTQIA plus individuals and families across our community. 9 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:56,000 While progress has been made, LGBTQIA plus individuals continue to face barriers and inequalities and inequities. 10 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,000 And with the city remains committed to advancing access and opportunity for all. 11 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:15,000 During Pride Month, community members, businesses and allies show support for the LGBTQIA plus community through actions, both large and small, including displaying pride flags, wearing pride pins, 12 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 and fostering inclusive spaces that affirm belonging and our shared humanity. 13 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Now, therefore, I, Eric A. Stewart, Mayor of the City of San Luis Obispo, on behalf of the entire city council, recognize the month of June as Pride Month, 14 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,000 and reaffirm the city's ongoing commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion, and respect for all people. 15 00:02:45,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Madam Mayor and members of the city council, my name is Tobin Johnson, and I'm, I serve as the chair of the NAACP LGBTQIA. 16 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Committee for San Luis Obispo County. 17 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Thank you for this proclamation and recognizing June as Pride Month. 18 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:29,000 This acknowledgment sends a powerful message that all members of our community are seeing, valued, respected, and welcomed. 19 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:39,000 I would like to also share that the LGBTQIA committee is a brand new committee within the NAACP branch, and I am honored to serve as this first chair. 20 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:52,000 The creation of this committee reflects our commitment to ensuring that the LGBTQIA voices and concerns are represented in our civil rights and advocacy work throughout the slow counting. 21 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:00,000 At a time when members of the LGBTQIA committee are facing increasing challenges and uncertainty local leadership matters. 22 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Pride Month is more than a celebration. It is a recognition of those who fought for equality, dignity, and the freedom to live authentically. 23 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:18,000 It is also a reminder that the work of building inclusive communities continues as an openly gay combat veteran and advocate for civil rights. 24 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:28,000 I understand the importance of belonging acts of recognition such as this proclamation help create communities where people feel accepted, supported, and valued who they are. 25 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,000 I would like to also thank our community partners at the Pride and Diversity Center of Slow County. 26 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:41,000 For their continued leadership, advocacy, and support of LGBTQIA individuals and families throughout the county. 27 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Finally, I would like to invite all of you members of the community to join us in celebrating Pride Month. 28 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:55,000 As we encourage everyone to attend slow pride at metal park on June 26 and trans pride on June 27. 29 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,000 As we come together to celebrate diversity, inclusion, and community. 30 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,000 On behalf of the NACP and our newly established LGBTQIA committee. 31 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Thank you for your leadership, your support, and recognize and pride month. 32 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Happy Pride Month and thank you all for your time. 33 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Thank you, Tobin. 34 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,000 And with that, we'll move forward to the city manager's report and city manager. I'll pass it over to you. 35 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Thank you very much. We have just a handful of slides to go over. Hopefully folks I also want to mention at our last regular city council meeting on March 19. 36 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:42,000 We did go over a list of ways that the city is helping to support Pride Month and so if anybody's curious. 37 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:49,000 The information is there as well as in a lot of our other publicly accessible spaces on our website. 38 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,000 And I'm sure you'll see post about our involvement as well. So just wanted to mention that. 39 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 First up, we will. 40 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:07,000 We want to let folks know and remind everybody every year we go through a process where we make an adjustment to our user fees and impact fees. 41 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:23,000 They change effective July 1st of every year based on CPI increases or decreases that's consumer price index or ccci which is essentially construction cost index which applies to our impact fees. 42 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:30,000 And those increases or changes happen whenever we are not otherwise undertaking a comprehensive fee study. 43 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,000 So this is one of those years where we will make an automatic adjustment effective July 1st. 44 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Our updated user and impact fees will again go into effect in just under a month. 45 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:49,000 This year our user fees will increase by a consumer price index change of 3.68%. 46 00:06:49,000 --> 00:07:04,000 And our impact fees are going to decrease by half of a percent and that is again because that ccci showed a decrease in inflationary forces for our construction costs. 47 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:13,000 So if anybody has any questions about where to find the actual fee amounts, those are posted at slowcity.org slash fees. 48 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 There's also a lot of great information on there about why fees. 49 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 How did we create the fees? Why are they charged? How did they get applied? 50 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 And so if anybody has any questions please go there and of course reach out to us. 51 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Particularly our finance department or community development department largely since a lot of these fees are housed there if you have questions. 52 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:47,000 User fees are paid by users of individualized services that include application fees, filing fees, business license fees, inspections, permits, things like that impact fees are paid by applicants for development projects. 53 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:53,000 And those are used to support the construction of additional facilities, so just a little breakdown of those differences. 54 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,000 But again, a lot of that information or all of it is at slowcity.org slash fees. 55 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Okay, next up we want to remind everybody we are also in the business license renewal season. 56 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:17,000 We are working to notify all of our business operators of the requirement to renew their licenses and our providing renewal forms to all of our current businesses. 57 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,000 We are working to provide a month long grace period. 58 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:35,000 So that means if your accounts are not renewed by the end of July 31st we would be looking at potential citations that could amount up to $800. 59 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Now it only costs $44.58 to renew your license. 60 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:47,000 We really encourage all of our businesses to take a look at them renewed if you have changes in your contact information we asked for that as well. 61 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,000 We want to make sure that we are reaching out in the most effective way possible. 62 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:05,000 And there are multiple ways to renew your business license you can do that online through a business license portal you can come in in person to our finance counter, which is on the lower level of city hall or by mail. 63 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Of course if you have any questions reach out to finance staff with any business license or business tax related questions by email at bt at slowcity.org or by phone at 7817134 or again you can visit the counter in person downstairs Monday through Friday 8 a.m. 64 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 To 4 p.m. 65 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Next up we are excited to share that this year's state of the city will be offered in a couple different formats. 66 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:42,000 We are bringing back our in-person state of the city event which will be live here again next Tuesday. 67 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:55,000 This is a really great opportunity to hear directly from the mayor and a number of others about the accomplishments of the past year and to ask questions engage in conversation and just learn more about the work going on across the city. 68 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 We will also be publishing a state of the city report. 69 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:08,000 In next week the report will be available digitally on our website and if you need a heartbeat please let us know we can provide you a heartbeat. 70 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:18,000 We're just trying to go the digital routing case in order to save on printing and those types of both you know expenses and environmental questions. 71 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:31,000 But we really hope you'll join us next Tuesday June 9th at 530 p.m. here same same place and so come if you have questions will be happy to hear them as well. 72 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,000 We are also holding on Saturday January 13th from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. 73 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Our fire department will host a wild fire education day and this event is actually held at our city corporation yard which is located at 25 proud of road so that's important to note it's not going to be at the fire station. 74 00:10:52,000 --> 00:11:00,000 I think we want to make sure there will be plenty of space because we know this is a topic of concern and there's lots of information we want to share. 75 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:10,000 It's of course a free community event and it provides will provide residents with practical information on wild fire preparedness home hardening, 76 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 and maybe if you wonder what those terms are. 77 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 This is a great event to come and learn more about it. 78 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Vegetation management, evacuation planning and emergency notifications. 79 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:28,000 We will have four education sessions offered throughout the event including presentations from our emergency manager, 80 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:43,000 little our city biologist Freddie Audie and also have representatives of Yacht T2 T2 T2 Yacht Tilkini and other local partners who are involved in wild fire mitigation in our community as well as other resilience efforts throughout our region. 81 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,000 So you will have an opportunity to visit education booth staffed by. 82 00:11:49,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Our community risk reduction and home assessment team as well as county of San Luis Obispo office of emergency services staff and other organizations who really work around our region to help reduce wild fire risk and improve emergency preparedness. 83 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:12,000 So we look forward to seeing everybody there who wants to learn more about how to be fire wise fire safe in our region. 84 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Ask questions get great information and again at our corporation yard at 25 proud of road. 85 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And then finally just highlighting items we have one more meeting in June, June 16th which then we will take a little break and be back on July 21st. 86 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:39,000 So want to highlight and we have our annual advisory body appointments on this meeting as well as annual reviews for the San Luis Ranch and Avila Ranch development. 87 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Next slide shows our resolution calling for the November 3rd general municipal election and adopts regulations for that process and finally want to highlight our business items which includes our 2025 local hazard mitigation plan. 88 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Our 2025 urban water management plan and water shortest contingency plan and filing an updated water supply and demand assessment. 89 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:16,000 So a lot of water, great water information and then an annual review of our office of diversity equity and inclusive strategic plan and vision for our next fiscal year. 90 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:25,000 So we do have a fairly full agenda on June 16th before we will on a brief break and with that I'm happy to answer any questions. 91 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Thank you so much any questions from my colleagues. 92 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Okay. 93 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Thank we're good. 94 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Before I call public comments I want to give one more chance if anyone has something you'd like to comment on that is not on the consent agenda and not on the public hearing and business items. 95 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,000 This is your time to turn in a slip over there the yellow slips right near the deputy city manager Greg Herman. 96 00:13:51,000 --> 00:14:03,000 And with that city clerk and I just want to welcome Sarah armus we are lucky to have our city clerk today for this meeting as her first official city council meeting. 97 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Thank you mayor. 98 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 We do have three non agenda public comments. 99 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,000 We have Sean Harris will be followed by Sharon Spadafora in Roberta Smith. 100 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Thank you. 101 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 There we go. 102 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Okay, thanks. 103 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 I'll be quick. 104 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I just have a couple of concerns and that was pretty impressive from Ms. McDonald the pronounce in our local. 105 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Native Americans. 106 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 I can't even pronounce that name. 107 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 I've seen it written before but on how to pronounce it. 108 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,000 The last verified slave in the US died in 1972. 109 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Mr. Peter Mills at the age of 110. 110 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,000 What America's need to understand is that my late parents generation boomers. 111 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 We're last generation of walk and live amongst actual slaves. 112 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Let me see that again. 113 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Boomers live amongst free slaves. 114 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Is it any wonder then that the US economy is structured like a cotton plantation. 115 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,000 With the rest of us need to understand and beyond guard for is not falling for the same trap as poor whites in the Annabelle. 116 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:30,000 We may share similar levels of pigment, or in the off chance to actually hold religious beliefs, that we worship the same God. We do not. They're God as money and power. Just ask yourselves what color of this nation's all regards are? Are they black? No, do we live under a dictatorship of African Americans? No, is the majority of Congress black? No, our problems are not racial. They're financial. We live under a dictatorship of capital. Bankers, acting through Congress, the Secretary defense, defense contractors have demanded a outrageous $1.4 trillion, 117 00:15:30,000 --> 00:16:00,000 this budget. If this goes through and it will, it will be, it will spell the end of the dollar for several banks and all on our national debt instruments, hyperinflation will ensue through trillion dollar corporate bailouts, Americans will starve, cities like San Luis will be unable to pay their municipal bonds. Well, little social spending, we have will shrink even more. Our our anemic social safety net will be shut down and passengers and little ladies living on fixed incomes will die in agony in their mobile homes, unable to pay for air conditioning or food. Everything will be sacrificed for a 118 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:30,000 defense department that has become an enemy of the American people. At this point, does it really matter? Who we vote for? We always get John McKinney life sucking defense budgets to crowd out everything Americans deserve. The defense department isn't killing foreign American enemies. It's killing Americans. Scott, the cent, Howard Ludnick and Kevin Hasett have two things in common. They all stutter went on national television as a lie to us about economic indicators and two when they, they come from New York City. New York City in Washington, DC, or making war on the American people on our birthright. One through the blood. My grandparents generation. 119 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:59,000 They've built it on my beach in World War II. Namely, a strong social safety net. Solid jobs and responsive government. Although my parents generation through our patch money. My grandparents generation literally died for in the trash as they dropped acid, copulated in the mud at Woodstock or attempted to levitate the Pentagon. We will not. The first thing we did need to do is tax concentrated wealth. Stand up. FDRs work for the program. Recapitalize our social safety net. 120 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:07,000 To make a direct investment in non defense rate in industry and try to balance our national budget. This is not partisan. There are emergency measures. 121 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:13,000 The defense department is out of control as is having $40 trillion in national debt. I'm not a leftist or a liberal. 122 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 In order to acknowledge the idea of taxing with those who have taken the risk and starting business of acquired. 123 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,000 But at this point, does Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk really need another trillion billion dollars. 124 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Well, Americans experienced downward mobility, a debase currency and squalor. 125 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:34,000 I'm more, but thank you. Next, we have who again? Sharon's better for you. 126 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Thank you. Sharon's better for him than after that. Sorry. 127 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 I should have written it down. 128 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Travel if I were a participant. Thank you. 129 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:58,000 We already know I'm Sharon's better for us. Good evening. 130 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 I've been a resident of this city for 78 years. 131 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Consequently, I've had plenty of time navigating the streets of our beautiful city. 132 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,000 As a board member and owner resident of Parkside Town Homes on King Court. 133 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:19,000 I'm here to express my concern regarding the intersection of King Court and South Street. 134 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:26,000 All the residents of Parkside Town Homes and Villages have only one way in and one way out. 135 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Turning left from King Court onto South Street can only be called an experience that requires extreme patience. 136 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Since the residents on King Court did not receive notification of the current project, 137 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:48,000 I respectfully request a pause, allowing the homeowners an opportunity to weigh in on any changes. 138 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. 139 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Some whatever repeat, but we're very interested in this in our environment. 140 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,000 My name is Roberta Smith and I'm owner and occupied 2250 King Court. 141 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:23,000 I've only lived in this location for approximately six months, but I've experienced the anxiety and waiting trying to turn left from King Court onto South Street. 142 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:30,000 A left hand turn out of King Court onto South Street is a totally unsafe for vehicles. 143 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Currently, this intersection has a white flashing light that can be activated by pedestrians and bicyclists using the push buttons on the side of the road. 144 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:52,000 There's no plans and as I understand it, installation of a mostly completed for a new safer indicator using a pedestrian hybrid beacon. 145 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,000 That's kind of like what's on broad street and forget the intersection. 146 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Our neighborhood myself included. 147 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:05,000 I think this is a great idea and it will make it much safer for pedestrians and bicyclists across South Street. 148 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And those folks are typically going into metal park. 149 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,000 There's no question, there's no argument about the increase safety. 150 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:24,000 However, King Court is the one and only way for my home and every residents home to get out into South Street safely. 151 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Left hand turns are basically our concern. 152 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:35,000 We evidently had no way to express our need for left hand turn signal during the discussion on the new pedestrian hybrid beacon. 153 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,000 And King Court itself is a dead end street. 154 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:46,000 It's just a call to sack with entrance to our homes as well as entrance to a metal park. 155 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,000 So you have down at the end of the street, many people who come with their kids and they park down there. 156 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:58,000 And then they try to get out at a five o'clock traffic or something and it's pretty difficult. 157 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:12,000 And my neighbors are officially asking the city to allow King Court residents to provide their input in order to improve the safety and operation of King Court South Street intersection for our families and our visitors. 158 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Specifically to allow some kind of traffic control device to allow a safe crossing in turns or throughput actually to go to the school from King Court onto South Street. 159 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:30,000 The current plans are not addressing vehicular safety or accessibility in ease of use for the residents of King Court. Thank you very much. 160 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Thank you. I know we have some new people in the room. Sorry to let you know one of the things always hard is people putting public comment but because it's not on the agenda we can't discuss it up here. 161 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:46,000 But there are some staff members in the audience that may come and chat with these speakers today. 162 00:21:46,000 --> 00:22:04,000 With that, we will move on to our city or consent agenda and ask my colleagues you have anything you wish to pull from 5A to 5K. 163 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Vice Mayor. 164 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Not to pull, but I do need to recuse myself from item 5J because my residence is too close to broad street to vote on it. 165 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Thank you. Councilor Michelle Shoresman. 166 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,000 I was going to pull 5J but really just for a couple of questions of staff. 167 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Sounds good. Do you want to ask the questions before we? 168 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,000 If we can do it without pulling the item that I'm happy to do that and then we just vote on everything together. 169 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 City Attorney, can we ask if we question the staff before we start? 170 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 We need to pull the whole thing. 171 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Okay. 172 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Mayor. Yes. 173 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 I did have one last non agenda public comment. 174 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 If we wanted to squeeze that in before we moved for the consent. 175 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Okay. After I called for the. 176 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Okay. 177 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 No. 178 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Okay. 179 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Thank you. 180 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Thank you. 181 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Okay. 182 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 First day. 183 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 We do have Dan C. 184 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Hello again, Mayor council members. 185 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 My name is Dan C. I'm a resident of King court. 186 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,000 I'm sure you've received my letter today. 187 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 After our last meeting here, I went and did some more digging. 188 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Found the contractor approval from January or mid January. 189 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,000 And then there was reference to an October 7 meeting and found that memo. 190 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 I have the item and we still have a report on this policy and the 191 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000 question from the council and correspondence city correspondence to council. 192 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 And in that correspondence, there were two questions posed to the engineering 193 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000 department, 194 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,000 one was about the operational capacity basically of the intersection King and south. 195 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,000 And there are eight potential warrants that would grant a technical justification for a 196 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,000 sign law at an intersection per the California MOT CD that's the manual uniform. 197 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:05,880 you know from traffic control devices and so only one of the eight conditions was met for 198 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,800 that would warrant a signal at that intersection and that movement is the northbound King 199 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:20,120 court movement that is R vehicles all of the 130 homes residences on King court there means only 200 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:28,200 means of egress and so that has a level of service F that's the worst grade it can get we can't there's 201 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:36,520 no G or H it has a long delay time has seen in the morning early morning hours and the staff report 202 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:42,360 also are that the answer to that question also confirms that it says via firsthand field visits 203 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,120 that it's in line with what's been studied. The second question on that is 204 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:56,440 pertaining to the working court residence notified of the change from a full signal to pedestrian 205 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:03,400 or versus a pedestrian hybrid beacon and the answer to that from south was no it was not King court 206 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:10,040 residents were not consulted. I've attached that city correspondence with my letter and snippets 207 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:16,760 within the letter itself. I took it upon myself and a couple of neighbors to this last weekend 208 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:25,960 go out Saturday and Sunday and get signatures from 77 of the 130 units in King court in the two 209 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:33,320 complexes on King court signatures in support that no we didn't get anything about this never heard 210 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,280 about this change to from a full signal which would provide us a dedicated left-turn movement 211 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:46,760 stopping the traffic on south street and to this pedestrian hybrid beacon that not only doesn't 212 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:53,000 maintain status quo it makes things harder because the signal timing will be longer it provides 213 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,560 you know it makes all vehicle movements illegal even if they're crossing on our right-hand side 214 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,760 and it would be technically safe to do an exit it makes it illegal under the current 215 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:13,080 we planned designed project so we're asking you a couple of present and and thank you thank you 216 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,200 I believe one of our team members would like to provide some input 217 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,320 sure appreciate the opportunity again I know we can't discuss this item in detail tonight 218 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,000 but I do want to provide some information this crossing is a challenge I totally understand it is very 219 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,800 challenging making a left-turn out of south or out of King court during peak times of day on to south 220 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,640 street this has been planned as a pedestrian hybrid beacon crossing for several years it was in our active 221 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:47,320 transportation plan as adopted in 2021 it was initially part of the Hygira complete streets project and has 222 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,520 been publicized and all of our community outreach was proposing this is a pedestrian hybrid beacon because 223 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:58,440 initially it wasn't meeting more on for signal for full signalization we looked at it as we got funding 224 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,280 through slow-cog to advance this project and start getting into design we collected updated traffic data 225 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,680 and confirmed actually volumes now have gone up a little bit we could make the case for full signal 226 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,600 as we started looking into those details one of our first conversations with the city emergency services we 227 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,040 know this is a primary quarter for fire station one and said would this be a concern and what we 228 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,880 heard at the time was yeah this would add some friction this is a primary route that we get to the south 229 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,880 Hygira quarter a full signal create some heartburn in terms of the potential delays we prefer to start with 230 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,840 the pedestrian crossing only and look towards potential upgrade to a full signal so all of our 231 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,160 community meetings public outreach to said this is going to be a pedestrian crossing with 232 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,840 potential to be a signal we've designed it to be easily converted to a signal. 233 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,080 Since then some things have changed to and that we've upgraded more emergency vehicle 234 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,280 preemption equipment for our emergency vehicles that add more capabilities to talk to our traffic 235 00:27:54,280 --> 00:28:00,200 signals further downstream and as you probably see in some of our communications with the concord 236 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,880 residences week we acknowledge that we'd like to a signal would be a great solution from our perspective too 237 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,080 if we could do this without creating those concerns for emergency response we've had more 238 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,560 conversations with our new chief heres this week and said you know if the new equipment we have is this 239 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,520 still the we're at and from those conversations I think there's more openness to revisit 240 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,720 accelerating a traffic signal as maybe the right solution here it's something staff would prefer we'd be 241 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,200 supported that it's more about process what's the process to come back and make sure that there's 242 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,880 an opportunity for public conversation on that potential shift but that is something we'd 243 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,760 like to explore and plan to come back to the council and continue to discuss with the concord 244 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,240 neighborhood about that possibility is maybe the right fit for this project moving forward. 245 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,160 Thank you so much for providing some input on that I know that you sent an email to many people on that 246 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,200 and I wish we could come verse about that and ask lots and lots of questions and have some really 247 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,560 good deliberation unfortunately we are not at that point today since that's not on the agenda but thank you 248 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:14,760 really appreciate that and then we will move back to consent agenda items five a through five k 249 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:24,360 there was a quick question about something on five j and with that which member would you like to 250 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,400 chat with council and resourceman. Maybe maybe could come back up to the mic I haven't 251 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,440 literally cannot talk about that. You can't answer a question. Not broad street no. Oh that's right okay 252 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:46,440 so whoever can. Perfect thank you. Sorry to she's inappropriate. So my my question about five j is that 253 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:54,360 we've gotten quite a few agenda correspondence letters from residents who are 254 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Both excited about this moving forward. I think if I can interpret correctly, the e-mails overall, they're very interested in this moving forward. 255 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:21,000 And they're interested in interim solutions before we can actually get all of this off the ground that is the full RFP project that's described in the staff in the agenda item. 256 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:30,000 So we have talked a little bit about this in the past and I know that there are efforts to do some things in the interim. 257 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Do we are able to summarize what types of things we might be able to do in the interim before the full project goes into place? 258 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Sure. Brian, we are good evening, Mayor of members council. 259 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Yes. For that question, we are staff is working right now. 260 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Very short term deploying the speed fee back trailer in the area. 261 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Maybe you've seen that on Broad Street. We are going to be deploying on to Latin in the next couple weeks. 262 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000 We also will be collecting some 48 hour speed data on Latin specifically in the next couple weeks. 263 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,000 We understand the desire for more immediate improvements. 264 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:21,000 And so we're looking the summer at some speed feedback science on Broad Street to address some of the kind of low hanging fruit of faster speeds before we can get to the full planning effort. 265 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:28,000 One thing I do want to bring up is that lot in and many of these other Jason Streets are going to be part of the full planning effort. 266 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:38,000 And if we kind of skip that and go straight to some quick build we run the risk of having unintended consequences. 267 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:51,000 So if there is the possibility of like I think some of the correspondence had indicated some quick build speed tables or speed humps on Latin some of the other streets. 268 00:31:51,000 --> 00:32:02,000 And that has not really seen that there's a reduction cost with those temporary measures that an asphalt speed bump is about the same. 269 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,000 And so we that's an option for us to take a look at in this summer. 270 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:18,000 So that that is one of the options which you'll evaluate along with speed signs and some paint and other things that you're looking at. 271 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:27,000 This summer before the full study is complete before public outreach is really underway and we we go through the whole process. 272 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Okay, and it sounds like you'll do some kind of many speed studies. 273 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,000 In order to decide where if you are going to put some of those. 274 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Yes. 275 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 In a place where you would do that. 276 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Great. Okay, and it includes that whole area. 277 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 A lot in funds to. 278 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Yes, several of those streets are in the in team program currently. 279 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Another thing to kind of keep in mind is that lot in meadow. 280 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,000 They are 6th in line currently in the in team queue. 281 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000 We have several projects that are in front of them. 282 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:11,000 So it would be helpful for staff to maybe get some direction to elevate them outside of the normal and team process as they would kind of be like skipping. 283 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Outside of that established queue knowing that they. 284 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000 They would be part of this full planning effort. 285 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 You know, 27. 286 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000 So. 287 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Okay, and you just used an acronym. 288 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Okay. 289 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,000 So it's the program that the city has to address. 290 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speeding volume concerns our residential streets. 291 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Okay. 292 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Thank you so much. 293 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Sorry. 294 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 No, I just if you want to give guidance. 295 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 I feel like we need to pull it if that's okay. 296 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Thank you. 297 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Thank you so much. 298 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Thank you. 299 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 All right. 300 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Do we have public comment actually before we go there. 301 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 There are some yellow slips there by the deputy city manager. 302 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Anyone have any public comment on consent agenda items or public hearing or business items. 303 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000 So I'm going to make sure I will give everyone a chance. 304 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Okay. 305 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Any public comment. 306 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 You can assure you. 307 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Yes. 308 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Okay. 309 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Three. 310 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Thank you. 311 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,000 All for items. 312 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 We'll start off with. 313 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:27,000 The pass. 314 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:41,500 Maybe that's for 315 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:48,540 30 children. Okay, this is just in this neighborhood, the broader neighborhood around 316 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:54,700 middle part. Obviously, that's a high traffic area for children who are traveling to school 317 00:34:54,700 --> 00:35:01,500 as well. And so I know that there's a lot of comment, there's been a lot of emails, 318 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,740 thank you for acknowledging these in a timely manner and for the opportunity to speak on this. 319 00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:15,020 I think part of the concern here is that this is going, this could get worse, right? And 320 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:19,260 there's no perfect solution for things like this because there's always ripple effects. And I 321 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:25,420 can appreciate that. One of my concerns is that a lot of the cars that are doing this are not 322 00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:31,180 cars that will willingly slow down because they see how fast they're going. In fact, that could 323 00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:37,500 make it more fun for them. It's almost a game, it seems, to beat the traffic light. And so these are 324 00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:43,420 some of the cars that you would expect it to be cars that have big big motors that can go fast, 325 00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:49,340 that are low to the ground. So something like signs, I don't think personally, living on the street. 326 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:56,620 And I think if if police or anybody from the city spent three hours, not even three hours, just sitting 327 00:35:56,620 --> 00:36:00,620 near one of these intersections, it would be abundantly clear what the issue is. 328 00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:10,540 So something like what this gentleman was talking about, consideration for speedhomes or something 329 00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:15,180 that would actually physically require cars to slow down. I think is what is necessary here. 330 00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:20,620 My son is here, nine year old. He was one of the 30 plus children who at this, 331 00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:28,060 this took out a memorial day. This is really, really important to us. We appreciate that you guys 332 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:33,260 are considering it. And I think if I understand what's going on here, I think what I want is that we 333 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:40,460 want this to be pulled from the agenda to have a more robust conversation about near-term fixes rather 334 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:45,740 than having to wait another 12 or 18 months for this. Thank you. Thank you. 335 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:59,260 Hi, council. It's Elianz. I live at the corner of Winston and Martin. Similar to what I said last 336 00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:05,900 time, we would really, we're so excited about this health broad quarter product. We're excited. Our 337 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:12,060 all our neighborhood is up in arms about it in a good way. What we're hoping for, it's going to be a while 338 00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:16,780 until that project comes to fruition in our neighborhood. So what we would really love to see is just 339 00:37:16,780 --> 00:37:25,900 near-term, traffic calming measures in our little neighborhood, something that can be, you know, 340 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:31,900 low cost, temporary bolted in, rubber speed hump, something that I understand is fairly simple. 341 00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:38,300 So specifically asking you to just allocate a small part of the budget for those traffic calming measures 342 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:43,500 in the interim. That doesn't take away obviously from the bigger picture of what you're trying to 343 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:50,700 do with the planning and design of this project. With love also the signals for the speed, 344 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:57,260 but I think that goes in tandem with also the speed humps. And yeah, just to make it a safer place, 345 00:37:57,260 --> 00:38:03,420 while we all wait for the redesign and the bigger picture. So thank you. Thank you. 346 00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:16,460 Good evening, council. My wife was here last time speaking and tonight's my turn. So thanks for 347 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:24,380 having me. So my name is Michael Labavich and my wife and our two daughters, three year old and a six-month-old 348 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:33,100 live on Funston Avenue between Lawton and Broad. I'm here tonight to a just strongly support our 349 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:39,820 endorsement and excitement for the Broad South corridor project. We know that project matters 350 00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:49,020 and we believe that it is kind of a bigger long-term fix. But I'm also here as a parent to ask you 351 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:55,100 not to make the families on our street that my neighbors here sort of just spoke about, you know, 352 00:38:55,100 --> 00:39:03,340 wait any longer for what feels like basic safety. Every day drivers cut through our neighborhood to 353 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:12,300 avoid specifically the light at Broad and South. And they come down, Funston fast and not just a little 354 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:17,820 too fast, but fast enough that I feel it in my body when I'm standing next to my three-year-old 355 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:25,100 in our front yard. And you know, Funston is not just a shortcut. It's where people live. It's where 356 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:32,460 kids play. It's where families walk dogs and ride bikes and push strollers and, you know, walking simply 357 00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:39,500 two blocks down to the park. And, you know, this really keeps my wife and I and our neighbors up at night. 358 00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:46,940 The reality is that when you live on a street like this, you start to do the math of what if a 359 00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:53,980 kid runs out and, you know, as Alec mentioned, you know, people are really trying to beat that light. 360 00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:59,180 And people are on their phones, unfortunately. And what happens if someone is just not looking as they're 361 00:39:59,180 --> 00:40:06,060 trying to just save an extra three seconds to cross through a light and there's a child out in the street. 362 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:12,860 And so it's it's it's really important to us and specifically just want to also advocate for some type of 363 00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:19,900 temporary measure, something that possibly could be allocated outside of kind of the current 364 00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:26,620 allocated budget for something that's bolt in, but would physically slow drivers down driving through that 365 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:32,380 neighborhood really appreciate your consideration and time and thanks for having me. Thank you. 366 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:40,700 Any other speakers? No, we do not. Okay, thank you. Council Member Marks. 367 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:48,380 Yeah, I have a question for a city manager. Is this issue something that could be discussed when we talk 368 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:57,580 about the budget allocation later as a business item? In that allocation of a small amount 369 00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:07,020 for this purpose? That's a great question. Thank you because the it's the budget is it touches all things. 370 00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:14,620 So, however, I think I need to check with staff to see if there's something about the RFP, the way this 371 00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:20,700 project is structured in the consent item that makes that the better place to give the direction. 372 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:27,420 If not, then it could also come up in the budget item. So, thank you. And I appreciate your 373 00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:34,540 mental and work. Yeah. Hi, Madeleine Consent as Assistant Director of Public Works. If we wanted to 374 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:41,020 implement some type of a quick build, we do have funding within your two of the budget for things like 375 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:47,500 vision zero implementation or active transportation implementation. So, we do have things set aside where we 376 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:55,500 could look at items like this that would be within a city manager or director per view to allocate. 377 00:41:55,500 --> 00:42:02,140 So, that would be within staff's discretion or we could come back to council to talk about items like that. 378 00:42:03,260 --> 00:42:10,780 And would that be under, do we need to talk about that today with five J or is that per the 379 00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:17,180 vision zero plan that we've already discussed? So, five J would consider more long-term 380 00:42:17,980 --> 00:42:23,580 corridor planning, which includes the neighborhoods around broad streets. So, that's already 381 00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:29,500 encompassed in the RFP that you guys are considering tonight. For the quick build, you guys would not need 382 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:34,380 to make a decision on that tonight. We can already move forward on that. Great. Thank you so much. 383 00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:41,580 All right, with no other public comment, we'll come back to the council. Go ahead, council remarks. 384 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:50,620 Sorry, wait, one second, I have city manager jump in. Go ahead. I think we could do now, or is this 385 00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:57,820 something we need to do at another time? So, I think I'm hearing from our staff that we don't need the 386 00:42:57,820 --> 00:43:03,980 South Broad Street corridor planning effort and the quick build that's intended to be incorporated 387 00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:12,380 into that project would not be where we would pull this funding. It's not contemplated directly 388 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:20,620 in that project right now. And so, we would not recommend modifying five J. But instead, we can take 389 00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:26,460 specific direction. Maybe under the budget item, if you would like to provide it on this stretch of roadway 390 00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:32,780 at the same time, we think we could accommodate the request even without that direction. So, 391 00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:38,700 so I think we're good on consent. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you. Council, I'm Reshoyesman. 392 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:45,580 Yes, sorry, just to follow up on that. My understanding from other conversations and emails with staff 393 00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:51,900 and from what they've said here is they are already working on some short-term solutions in the areas. 394 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:58,300 So, we don't even need to provide extra direction through the budget item tonight or 395 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:03,180 additionally because they're already working on a short-term plan along with the RFP that we're contemplating 396 00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:10,220 right now. That is correct. I think the one nuance is that we have a standard process that we use 397 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:16,940 for requests like this and we treated in as sort of a, there's a queue that occurs and we can, we typically 398 00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:23,420 have enough budget for a certain number and staff availability for a certain number in a year. 399 00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:28,460 And so that's the piece where we're just looking at trying to figure out how to prioritize the 400 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:37,100 request that we do receive. At the same, it's not so much a funding side of things. I believe as it is just 401 00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:44,460 which one comes first. So, certainly five J. We can move forward without that direction. If you would 402 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:48,940 like to give a specific direction under the budget you can, but if not, we will continue to work 403 00:44:48,940 --> 00:44:56,220 on this and we are hearing the desire for this to happen quickly. You know, same time, same, you know, 404 00:44:56,220 --> 00:45:00,380 is what we're looking at for other improvements related to the quick. 405 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,920 There is no one to be navfiled pieces of Southbrad. We here in understand the concern and so I just 406 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,580 will make sure maybe during a break. If we have a moment to check in with staff to make sure 407 00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:17,720 we don't need that specific direction on prioritization. I believe that otherwise we're good. I believe 408 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,600 overall. 409 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:27,700 Thank you very much and thank you for bringing that up, Councillor Merkel. With that, can we have a motion 410 00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:37,700 I'd like to move the staff for accommodation for the consent items. 411 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:42,700 All the way from 5A through 5K. 412 00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:45,700 Sounds good. 413 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:47,700 Thank you. 414 00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:49,700 Councilor Shoresman. 415 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,700 I will second approval of the consent agenda. 416 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:53,700 Thank you. 417 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,700 City Clerk, can we have a roll call please? 418 00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:57,700 Yes. 419 00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,700 Councilmember Boswell. 420 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:01,700 Yes. 421 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:02,700 Councilmember Boswell. 422 00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:03,700 Yes. 423 00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:05,700 Vice Mayor Francis. 424 00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:06,700 Yes. 425 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:08,700 With refusal on item 5J. 426 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:09,700 Mayor Stewart. 427 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:10,700 Yes. 428 00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:12,700 Thank you so much and motion passes. 429 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:15,700 And thank you to the community. 430 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:23,700 With that, we will take a quick five minute break and then we'll come back to talk about the budget. 431 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:33,700 Thank you. 432 00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:38,700 Thank you. 433 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:48,700 Thank you. 434 00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:53,700 Thank you. 435 00:46:53,700 --> 00:47:03,700 Thank you. 436 00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:33,700 Thank you. 437 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:38,700 Thank you. 438 00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:48,700 Thank you. 439 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:18,700 Thank you. 440 00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:23,700 Thank you. 441 00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:38,700 Thank you. 442 00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:48,700 Thank you. 443 00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:22,700 Thank you. 444 00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:31,700 Thank you. 445 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:46,700 Thank you. 446 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:55,700 Thank you. 447 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,700 Thank you. 448 00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:15,700 Thank you. 449 00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:24,700 Thank you. 450 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:34,700 Thank you. 451 00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:44,700 Thank you. 452 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:16,700 Thank you. 453 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:24,700 Thank you. 454 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:45,700 Thank you. 455 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:52,700 Thank you. 456 00:51:52,700 --> 00:52:02,700 Thank you. 457 00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:32,700 Thank you. 458 00:52:52,700 --> 00:53:02,700 Thank you. 459 00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:32,700 Thank you. 460 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:42,700 Thank you. 461 00:53:42,700 --> 00:54:03,700 Thank you. 462 00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:08,700 Thank you. 463 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:18,700 Thank you. 464 00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:52,700 Thank you. 465 00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:57,700 Thank you. 466 00:54:57,700 --> 00:55:06,700 Thank you. 467 00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:19,700 Thank you. 468 00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:28,700 Thank you. 469 00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:33,700 Thank you. 470 00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:59,700 Thank you. 471 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:09,700 Thank you. 472 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:14,700 Thank you. 473 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:27,700 Thank you. 474 00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:42,700 Thank you. 475 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:46,700 Thank you. 476 00:56:46,700 --> 00:56:49,700 Thank you. 477 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:54,700 Thank you. 478 00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:59,700 Thank you. 479 00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:04,700 Thank you. 480 00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:11,500 to adopt the budget. Talk through our user fee cost recovery goals because we will be kicking off 481 00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:19,260 a process in this next year to go undertake a comprehensive user fee study and then get an update 482 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:26,700 briefly on Sloma, San Luis Obispo Museum of Arts progress on phase one of their grant with the city. 483 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:34,300 But first off, I'd like to take a couple minutes to highlight some information that was included in 484 00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:39,500 the City Manager's message, which is the first few pages of our budget book and document. 485 00:57:41,180 --> 00:57:49,740 It was oddly maybe a great experience for me to review and help put together this year's message 486 00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:55,340 because it really provided an opportunity to highlight a lot of the amazing work that we have 487 00:57:55,340 --> 00:58:00,380 done over the last year because this is actually the second year of our two year financial plan. 488 00:58:00,860 --> 00:58:07,740 And so we have a lot of things to be very proud about accomplishing over this past fiscal year, 489 00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:16,540 which we will be concluding this June. So July 1st for us is a new year and so we're almost to the end 490 00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:22,540 of our year and so again, lots of things to celebrate. So first, want to highlight some of our major 491 00:58:22,540 --> 00:58:29,980 capital projects. You see some photos up there of some of those. One, our water resource recovery facility 492 00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:36,460 upgrade or we call our work was completed this year. It is the largest single capital improvement 493 00:58:36,460 --> 00:58:42,940 project to date for the city to years to build and it was completed this year. Of course, we completed 494 00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:48,700 our cultural arts district parking structure and then began construction on the Regatee Community Park 495 00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:55,180 project, which will add nearly 11 and a quarter acres of new amenities, including pickleball courts, 496 00:58:55,180 --> 00:59:00,380 bike facilities, walking paths, event space playgrounds, and wreck areas to the Regatee Ranch 497 00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:08,620 area, which we are incredibly proud to bring forward. We took care of new paving on tank farm road with new 498 00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:14,620 striping, approved the Hagaric Complete Streets Project, completed the mid-Hagaric bypass project with 499 00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:20,380 which most people don't see, but it is an incredibly important flood control project. We've been working 500 00:59:20,380 --> 00:59:25,900 on for decades with the county and San Luis Obispo and the Department of Water Resources at the 501 00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:31,980 state. We also mean significant progress on our mission plaza enhancement projects. So hopefully folks 502 00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:38,940 have had an opportunity to use our new restrooms there, which were opened and we are in the process of working 503 00:59:39,740 --> 00:59:46,860 with a local business to open a chaos cafe in the plaza. We restored all of our fixed transit services 504 00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:52,780 to pre-pandemic levels, and that took a lot of concerted effort by a lot of people to essentially 505 00:59:52,780 --> 00:59:59,420 restore our services. And that as well as adding electric buses, charging of the structure in new 506 00:59:59,420 --> 01:00:07,980 rider tech. 507 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,000 Legal technologies to help make using our buses easier. We completed a Laguna Lake Bike Park project and I would love to take a moment to really highlight. 508 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:29,000 That was a unique opportunity for staff to work directly with community volunteers to build that project ourselves together. So it was truly, I think of it as sort of a sweat equity project that we did together and really built something amazing that's being used every day in our community. 509 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:44,000 We also made a lot of progress on a number of programs, operations and other initiatives and that includes developing and kicking off a public information campaign about our new citywide single vote election system. 510 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:54,000 We have an internally articulated and now will be externally articulated goal if we want people to hear about this so much you ask us to please stop. 511 01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:07,000 And we're getting there so this is another opportunity we're kicking off that information campaign because it's so important that people are able to vote and exercise their vote and a way that it can be counted. 512 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:15,000 So remember this November vote for one the top two boat getters get the seat. 513 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:25,000 We launched a slow grown business support program, which is a free service that helps businesses navigate through our city processes and access resources. 514 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:33,000 We completed our by any by any old community academy program we had more than 30 participants and it was incredibly successful. 515 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:49,000 Really big shout out to Natalie Harnat for her work on that program she really put it together and was the cruise director for everyone through that process and I know we all had a ton of fun through that and thanks so much to Natalie. 516 01:01:50,000 --> 01:02:03,000 We adopted new fire hazard severity zone maps, which was a huge lift, but also has enabled us to get out in the community we got to announce an event that we're holding on June 13 to really help get that information out. 517 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:13,000 We obtained recognition from the state as a clean California community so really recognizing efforts to reduce litter improved public spaces and foster community pride. 518 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:22,000 And I really want to highlight this to we worked in partnership with Cal Poly to ensure a significant reduction in illegal parties. 519 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:31,000 I think Patrick's Day weekend and completely eliminated illegal street parties so that was a huge undertaking and work effort. 520 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:42,000 Incredibly big lift by our police department in particular as well as our fire department all of our first responders and that was no small feet and I want to highlight that too. 521 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:55,000 We took a lot of steps forward on housing we now have almost 3,200 housing units that we've permitted in this city since 2019 that's huge. 522 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:03,000 We helped to deliver the Maxine Lewis Grove apartments providing 39 permanent supportive housing units. 523 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:18,000 We are helping to advance an additional 357 affordable housing units over the next five years and this includes 75 permanent supportive housing units and those are super important because that's what's truly needed to help folks who were recently unhoused. 524 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:29,000 You know, be able to remain housed we've worked with internal teams and community partners to close and remediate 250 gate encampments over the past year. 525 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:43,000 This amounted to 42 tons of trash and debris and with a lot of work by our community action team and mobile crisis unit, which made 740 unique contacts when it individuals experiencing homelessness. 526 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:56,000 This included referrals for 162 folks to mental health and substance abuse treatment 111 housing referrals and help to reunify 26 people with. 527 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:09,000 Family or support agencies and that's incredibly important because that helped them receive help they need so it just wanted to thank you for giving me a moment to really highlight a lot of this work because. 528 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:25,000 We've been incredibly busy, but this is the work that our community has asked for and that we really take a lot of pride and delivering and the budget is how we do it because it all requires funding and resources and so next up. 529 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:41,000 We are showing a long a general fund long term forecast that is well, our general fund is budgeted and in balance both general fund and all of our funds for this fiscal year. 530 01:04:42,000 --> 01:05:07,000 We did, however, to had to take a lot of work to get to this point we were forecasting a deficit in the 2728 year largely related to the need to open an additional fire station in our community in order to make sure we had enough funding to do both that and all of the other things that we need to do plus us like all other agencies for pretty much in the state. 531 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:22,000 And a lot of folks in the nation saw a reduction in revenues or slow down in revenues and so while our costs went up our revenues slow down and we know we have a new fires station to open in a couple of years so. 532 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:33,000 On March 3rd we brought forward a really comprehensive look at a number of reductions that we knew we would need to take to bring us back into balance and propose. 533 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:48,000 About 1.1 million dollars in reduction so those were budget cuts that we went through very carefully to make sure we could provide on an ongoing basis to bring our spending within what we are forecasting to be our revenues in the future. 534 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:58,000 We're really proud of the work it took a lot of effort by every single department and our city to look very closely at our spending knowing that you know our funding. 535 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:05,000 As I tried to remind folks whenever an opportunity comes to talk about our funding sources. 536 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:21,000 We we fund ourselves through through our citizens through taxes and so it's incredibly important that we are careful with our spending and that we look to our spending before looking to asking for more money from them. 537 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:27,000 And so we took that process very seriously to come up with these reductions. 538 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:33,000 We're really proud that there will be no layoffs as a result of these reductions. 539 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:43,000 However we are eliminating four and a half positions those were all vacant and some of them were held vacant very. 540 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:49,000 And so we're really proud to be able to make sure that they could be considered as part of this reduction process. 541 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:56,000 We saw this is essentially a right sizing to make sure that we are being very responsible going forward. 542 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:06,000 And made sure that we're constraining our budget growth so we will talk a little bit about and you'll see in some of the information in the staff report that. 543 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:13,000 We have been constrained to the the process we went through for considering increases to just normal operating costs. 544 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:22,000 A lot of them are passed through through contracts as well as any new items that we felt we needed to fund and ended up coming up with a. 545 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:30,000 The smaller list and smaller amount than we have seen in prior years again just knowing that's what we need to do to be. 546 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000 Fiscally responsible coming forward. 547 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:40,000 So thank you for allowing me a chance to kick things off highlight a lot of the amazing work and give just a preview of. 548 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:49,000 What we went through to get to this point and we're really proud of what we've been able to put together and to present to you all this evening. 549 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:55,000 And certainly happy to answer questions as we go along. So thank you so much. 550 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,000 Thank you very much. That's a great. 551 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:06,000 Interence into this report and I love seeing the many pages in the beginning of this budget reports showing all of the wonderful things we've done this year. 552 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:11,000 And with that I'll pass it back to Emily Jackson. 553 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:24,000 Thank you. Good evening council. I'm really happy to be here this evening this item before you tonight is a culmination of several months of a lot of work with all of our departments. 554 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:31,000 I want to take a moment before we dive into the details to thank all of our departments and staff who contributed towards this effort. 555 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:38,000 A lot of them are in the room and hopefully some of them are taking some well deserved time off before they come back into our morning. 556 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:52,000 It's truly a team effort. The budget obviously touches every single employee in our organization and everybody contributes to this recommendation before you in some way. 557 01:08:52,000 --> 01:09:02,000 And so we were lucky to have such a great team and so much good partnership that helps support the finance department and delivering this to council every year. 558 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:14,000 The team manager noted we are seeking adoption of second year of the two year financial plan, which was initially adopted back in June of 2025. 559 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:21,000 The focus of this document is much smaller than the two year financial plan that you saw last year. 560 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:37,000 And the reason for that is that this is truly just a supplement to what you adopted back in June of 2025. So the focus of the document is really on the changes compared to what we had initially expected when we put the 2527 financial plan together. 561 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:48,000 And as you're aware, many of the recommendations before you this evening we're already discussed in the comprehensive budget preview that we provided on March 3rd. 562 01:09:48,000 --> 01:10:01,000 And so our hope is that we can keep the staff presentation relatively short this evening to allow her plenty of time for public comment from members of our community questions and deliberation from council. 563 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:09,000 And in total the budget that we're seeking adoption of for all funds is just under 225 million. 564 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:17,000 And so that amount of money is really important that we answer all your questions and provide plenty of time for deliberations. 565 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,000 So you're all comfortable with the recommendation before you this evening. 566 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:28,000 And with that, I'm going to kick it back over to Riley to walk through the details. 567 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,000 Thank you. 568 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:41,000 The first slide I'd like to share tonight compares the recommended budget for next year with the year two assumption from the financial plan. 569 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:47,000 Staff see a slightly improved revenue outlook with many adjustments both up and down. 570 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:57,000 But the improvements largely driven by a correction to a conservative budget for development fees, which have been highly volatile and hard to forecast in recent years. 571 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:03,000 Our budgeted slightly up year of year and more than the revenue increase and this is largely driven by a one time. 572 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:12,000 Basically an accounting adjustment transfer between the general fund and the capital out lay fund to close out the winter 2023 emergency storm projects. 573 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:20,000 So after the use of fund balance the recommended budget actually does indicate a surplus for the next year. 574 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:33,000 Moving on to the forecast for the general fund retaining some of that surplus will actually be necessary in order to offset some of the one time increase and expenditures to open that fifth fire station. 575 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:40,000 But in the long run it does look like the previously forecasted deficit for the general fund has been closed out. 576 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:49,000 I should point out the additional funding for the operating reserve which is slightly below pause policy levels may also be necessary to retain in future years. 577 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:58,000 Among the recommended actions necessary to close the deficit where the set of budget reductions the city manager spoke to. 578 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:07,000 These reviewed and discussed in detail on March 3rd with the budget preview and based on council's direction they were included in the recommended budget without change. 579 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:18,000 These are the results of a very thoughtful coordinated process with all departments and carefully designed to mitigate impacts to the community and to the city at large. 580 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:30,000 Critically as we've said no layoffs all positions recommended for elimination here were vacant and most were vacant for quite some time. 581 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:39,000 And the public published document includes much more detail we've shown high level here and happy to take any questions on those details. 582 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:46,000 The budget also includes some cost increases and this is somewhat of a departure from recent history. 583 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:56,000 No across the board inflationary adjustments were made initially departments had to request each and every increase to line items within us now analysis to support. 584 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,000 The only across the board adjustment that we ultimately recommended was to fuel. 585 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:14,000 We assumed a 20% increase for fuel prices city wide so that if we're wrong we'll at least be wrong evenly throughout the year and we can come back to correct that at the right time. 586 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:24,000 Also in the general fund there's a number of many small lines from nearly every department because we were so broad and what was required to report for it as a budget request. 587 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:35,000 But some representative items are critical public safety contracts increased public outreach items and the cost to generally maintain service levels. 588 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:47,000 And one thing that was noted in report is this exercise saved about $150,000 versus a pure CPI adjustment or resulted in about a 2% annual increase to operating expenditures budgets. 589 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,000 I think that that was worthwhile. 590 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,000 Within the water funds the primary increase was source of supply or purchased water. 591 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:04,000 In the sewer funds we had a large increase recommended for the biosolids hauling contract as the water resource recovery facility. 592 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:11,000 I've become mature now fully online staff have a better understanding of what those operations cost. 593 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:18,000 In the parking funds the recommendation is largely driven by the cost to accept increased revenue from a new parking structure. 594 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:31,000 And in the transit fund we're seeing the fuel price increases that we spoke to earlier and also increased activity from implementation of the short range transit plan. 595 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:38,000 What's typically presented in the budget is the significant operating budget changes and these are all the new things that have been recommended. 596 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,000 A quarter to a half of the 500,000 to 1.2 million in recent years. This includes critical safety investments, 597 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:15,000 like body-worn cameras, and electrical panel inspections. It also includes policy-required items, like a user fee study. 598 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:24,000 And for the general fund, zero new full-time employees, although one position is reclassified upwards to address some recruitment challenges. 599 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:33,000 In the water fund, there's a recommended one-time expenditure for water treatment coverage, just assist with regulatory compliance. 600 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:40,000 The water and sewer funds also include a shared allocation of a special project manager, a new employee added. 601 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,000 But fully offset with reductions to operating budgets. 602 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:53,000 And the recommendation for the parking fund is a reorganization of five-half-time parking compliance officers to two full-time. 603 01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:09,000 Moving on to major city goals, please report that 86% of tasks from the 2025-27 financial plan are on track completed or on track to be completed timely. 604 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:16,000 And we have 17 tasks with language or timeline changes and just one task no longer recommended. 605 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,000 And no significant issues with the original recommended work plans. 606 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:34,000 So, as indicated on March 3, there were some recommended changes, but they've largely affect learning since work programs kicked off or externalities that we've since found out about. 607 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:40,000 And with that all-hand it's our assistant director of public works for update on the capital budget. 608 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:49,000 Thank you, Riley. 609 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:54,000 Madeleine Cassenta Assistant Public Works Director. 610 01:16:54,000 --> 01:17:08,000 During this supplemental budget, we are not doing a full-true-up like we did in a previous financial plan, but rather looking at aligning projects with anticipated project delivery. 611 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:16,000 So, one of the projects that we looked at was the 1042 walnut project tenant improvements, which is the police station. 612 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:28,000 This we did not deprioratize or take any resources away from the project, but rather looked at what the funding need was currently and looked at where we were within the design phase. 613 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:42,000 We currently are in at 12 month window where we're leading to really spend time on the design of that project and will not enter into construction until we hit the next financial year. 614 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:51,000 So, looking at that, we're looking at reallocating funding into projects that can currently use that funding, including, we're a getty park. 615 01:17:51,000 --> 01:18:08,000 Bridge abutments, the storm drain projects, California tap, tap around about and replacements of some pedestrian crossing improvements downtown amongst some others that are listed in your report. 616 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:37,000 We also, in the CAP, just wanted to highlight some of the big things that we are doing in the upcoming year, which includes some transportation recreation and downtown improvements, which also include replacement of the parkla and mission plaza, which you may have noticed we were working on earlier this year, but we'll be back again after concerts concerts in the Plaza and before the holiday season. 617 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:53,000 But in addition, we're planning for the 2027 peaving project and as part of that, looking at curb ramps along the grand avenue corridor to see how we can upgrade some ADA improvements along that area. 618 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:58,000 For more details, please feel free to ask any questions or reference door. 619 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,000 I'll pass it back. 620 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,000 Thank you, Madeline. 621 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:22,000 So that concludes the presentation relative to the recommended budget. We did have two other items at the city manager highlighted in her introductory remarks. 622 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:29,000 I'm going to cover those really quickly and open it up for question deliberation from council after that. 623 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:39,000 The first item in addition to adoption of the budget is just a quick update on slow most progress towards their phase one grant funding requirements. 624 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:47,000 The information about the progress fairly significant progress that they've made so far is included on this slide. 625 01:19:47,000 --> 01:20:08,000 As a part of this item this evening, we're just recommending that you receive and discuss if desired the update and potential next steps, but we don't have a firm recommendation other than to note that our plan is to return for a conversation about potential additional funding with the year and budget report next February. 626 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:13,000 Once we have our audited numbers finalized. 627 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:29,000 The next item that we wanted to bring your council's attention to this evening was our user fee cost recovery policy fiscal policies are typically adopted every two years with adoption of the two year financial plan. 628 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:38,000 And so the user fee cost recovery was amended based upon the last user fee study and then adopted by council in June of 2025. 629 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:52,000 Believe it or not, we are getting ready to do the next user fee study to comply with the make sure we're doing this every three years to study our fees and our processes for delivering certain services to the community. 630 01:20:52,000 --> 01:21:18,000 And so we wanted to take this opportunity before we get an RFP out on the streets to get a consultant on board to give council the opportunity to discuss review and provide if necessary alternate direction to staff relatives to cost recovery levels so that we can make sure to factor that into the upcoming user fee study. 631 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:29,000 I think it's important to note that per council's request during the last process we will be making two stops with council on the user fee study. 632 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:42,000 We plan to come back after we work with the consultant and all of our staff and have calculated what the fees should be consistent with cost recovery levels is stated in the policy. 633 01:21:42,000 --> 01:22:00,000 We're planning to come back and preview the recommendations for council in March of next year and then take any feedback from council at that point make any necessary adjustments and then return in April for adoption of the fee schedule so that we can. 634 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:09,000 We wait the proper amount of of time 60 days before the fees can go into effect on July 1 and so. 635 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:21,000 This item is is a placeholder this evening in case council would like to provide additional or alternate this direction to staff relative to cost recovery goals and this slide. 636 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:41,000 It includes just kind of a high level summary of what the policy currently says it focuses both on kind of conceptual reasons that would favor low versus high cost recovery for certain different types of services but also identifies more specific cost recovery levels for individual fees or categories of fees. 637 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:57,000 So with that, that concludes our presentation this evening and we are back on the recommendations and would invite at this point any questions comments from council. 638 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,000 Well, we do the museum. 639 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,000 Presentations that is update now or later. 640 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,000 I believe we're handling that as a sort of general public or. 641 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,000 Okay, great. Thank you just making sure. 642 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:22,000 Well, thank you for a very thorough report and I also thank you for just spending some time. I know not every single one of us but most of us kind of have 12,000 questions ahead of time so I appreciate you spending that time. 643 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:35,000 And I also appreciate you looking at March versus February when we're in the middle of the the major city goal priorities and figuring out what to see with the budget next so thank you very much city manager. 644 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:48,000 Thank you very much I've got one after having a chance to confer with staff on the question we talked about earlier, which was when and how we would potentially install some. 645 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:54,000 We would be calming features on near broad street. 646 01:23:54,000 --> 01:24:13,000 We do have potential solution and because it's somewhat, you know, because it's budget related I thought it might be helpful to have clarification and perhaps a request of council for direction and ahead of when we get public comment just so folks can hear what we're thinking of. 647 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:19,000 Anybody hear who would like to speak to that issue. So with that perhaps I could ask. 648 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:29,000 Mael and consent to our assistant public work director or our really anybody over here who might want to be able to come up provide more information. 649 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,000 Thank you. Thank you. 650 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:37,000 I think I'm just going to stand here the rest of the night. 651 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,000 Mael and consent. This is a public workshop. 652 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:52,000 Yeah, I just wanted to give a little clarification on that project and how we might be able to implement some quick build on within that corridor. 653 01:24:52,000 --> 01:25:00,000 So one and funsten avenue is currently within the 2026 roadway ceiling project. 654 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:12,000 And so one of the thoughts behind potentially installing something like a temporary speed hump in that area would be to wrap it up within that project. 655 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:32,000 And so that would likely work if it was a quick build making sure that we are evaluating and doing more long term education and outreach for the long term need of if we are doing a permanent installation of a speed hump or something more long term that would stay. 656 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:40,000 But that's always the the larger concern is if we're really impacting the community we want to make sure we're doing an education and outreach. 657 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:50,000 If it's a temporary feature that allows staff to be a little bit more nimble if it's not working out we can always remove and take a look at that. 658 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000 Thank you, vice mayor. 659 01:25:53,000 --> 01:26:08,000 Yeah, I just wanted to quickly follow up with the city attorney just for the record because lot in and funsten is more than a half mile from my residents and my allowed to be a part of this conversation since it's now removing it from the discussion of broad street in general. 660 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:14,000 If it's more than a half mile from from your house, I don't see a concern there. 661 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,000 Okay, thank you. 662 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:22,000 And thank you for that clarification as well about the project list and Morris is going. 663 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,000 All right, city manager. 664 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:41,000 Thank you one additional clarification relating to sloma and their grant agreement I just we have a few opportunities to talk about the phase two portion of what they have requested. 665 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:58,000 We think we should take another look when we come back with a year and results which we typically do around October we think this year may be more like November December in order to make sure we a little more accurate on our reporting. 666 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:07,000 That would give us a better sense of where we ended the current fiscal year and whether we may have potentially unassigned fun balance available. 667 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:24,000 We would not be recommending we actually allocate or say appropriate money at that time typically we like to do that just two times a year when we do our budget and then when we do our second quarter or midyear budget report that typically comes back to all in. 668 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:31,000 That'd be wary and so what we would say if we get to that point and there's lots of ifs. 669 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:39,000 And we receive direction we would go work on an amendment to the agreement and try to have that back in February. 670 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:52,000 So that's kind of what we're thinking depending on how we end the year and what the direction is at that point in time about potential future allocations of that funding we usually do spend a fair amount of time talking about your end. 671 01:27:52,000 --> 01:28:10,000 And where unassigned fun balance may go if our audit confirms that that's the funding we have available. So that's why it's important for us to do things in that sequence we get a sense where we ended we make sure we get the audited results before we actually appropriate any money, which happens later in February. 672 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,000 So hopefully that makes sense as well. 673 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,000 Thank you. Thank you. 674 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,000 And the time there's like the timeline aspect and if there's money. 675 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:25,000 All right. With that any initial questions before we go to public comment. 676 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,000 Councilmember Boswell. 677 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,000 Thank you just a few. 678 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:41,000 First I'm I'm happy to see that where we've got a budget that is balanced and maybe even puts us a little tiny little bit in the black for the following year. 679 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:52,000 Of course I'm looking out at the year after that and seeing the brackets again showing us potentially in a deficit and I know we continue to be worried about. 680 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,000 Inflation in inflationary effects on quickly construction. 681 01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:15,000 The couple things that we're doing to get ourselves in balance on this current budget cycle are the no no base CPI adjustment for the budgets and then also essentially eliminating some unfilled positions. 682 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:25,000 That's good but we that's harder to do a second time isn't it so when we're looking at the next financial plan and the next set of budgets. 683 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:34,000 We're going to be in a more difficult position and I think I'm just trying to think a little bit ahead so I just want to make sure I'm thinking about that correctly. 684 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,000 Yeah, I think that's a that's a really good question potentially. 685 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:51,000 You know we as Riley noted during his presentation things have performed better this year than we had initially expected and so we're trying to balance the optimism and the cautious. 686 01:29:51,000 --> 01:30:00,000 You know with cautious budgeting on on a go forward basis and things are a little bit wild out there the market is responding. 687 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,000 It's responding in ways that you wouldn't necessarily expect it to respond, and it's hard to know how long that will last. 688 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:25,000 You know, I will say that we spent months on identifying budget reductions and the intent was that they were things that we would be able to get rid of and continue to sustain operations at the same level that we're currently providing them today. 689 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:35,000 You know, I would say in a lot of cases we've, I don't know that anything was easy to cut, I should say that, but we've kind, you know, the quote unquote easier things. 690 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:46,000 And so it certainly makes it a little bit more difficult as we go further and if we need to go through that exercise again, I do expect that it would be more difficult than it was the time before. 691 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:59,000 But one of the things that we heard from departments and one of the things that we did internally within finances, we took a look at what do we, what have we historically relied on consultants for versus what do we do in house. 692 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:14,000 And so, you know, I can say in my own department we came up with a pretty small handful of things that we've been contracting out that we've determined that we can do in house, probably for less money, then we were paying some of the else to do it. 693 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:24,000 And so, you know, the reduction exercises are also a really good opportunity to look at how we do business and it had been a while. 694 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:41,000 But, you know, since we have looked at how we had provided or produced, for example, the state controller street report, which we're legally required to do and back in the day it made a lot of sense to contract it out and we realize that today it doesn't make sense and so we're going to do it in house. 695 01:31:41,000 --> 01:32:10,000 Again, I think nothing, nothing is an easy reduction and I think that yes, if we, if we are in a position that need to reduce more it will be harder every time that we have to do it, but part of the reason for taking action now is to mitigate against the potential for future, you know, higher, higher deficit and higher number of necessary recommended reductions. 696 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,000 Thanks. 697 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:24,000 The tap around about project, if I recall correctly, we're estimated about two and a half million of increased costs there, that's part of one of our budget adjustments is to push some. 698 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:36,000 Funding over to that project is, is that is that just because the cost of everything is gone up, is that why we're seeing an increase in that or is there been. 699 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:42,000 It hasn't been a redesign or something of that nature right it's just an evolutionary cost. 700 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,000 I think did me want to phone a friend. 701 01:32:45,000 --> 01:33:06,000 Brian Nelson signature. Thank you for the question. Yeah, it's it's effectively to accommodate the increase in cost escalation that we've observed through the design with the updated 100% estimate received from the consultant just a few months ago. 702 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,000 Okay, that's the no no design changes have. 703 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:17,000 Create that increase it's really just the cost escalation of construction that we've observed over numerous years. Great. Great. Thanks. 704 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:22,000 Well, hopefully when that eventually we got to bed at the bed scum and we'll we'll open. 705 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,000 You know, very conservative in our estimate. 706 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:33,000 Yeah, the intention is that we won't need any more money, but we still have yet to bid the project and see what those kids look like to so we're looking at that probably later in the year. 707 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,000 Great. Thank you. And I think city manager wanted to add in on that. 708 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:50,000 Thank you not on the cost escalations on the specific project. Thank you, but back on your question related to the process of budget reductions and next steps. 709 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:56,000 Council member Boswell, I really appreciate the question because I think we're trying to. 710 01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:03,000 I think it's a little bit of insight into what we went through to come up with the list of reductions and what things will look like going forward. 711 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:11,000 If revenues don't significantly increase because the reality, as you mentioned, is. 712 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:18,000 What we've presented is a list of reductions that we don't believe will create significant impacts to the community. 713 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,000 And there's more reductions if we do need to do them in the future. 714 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:28,000 Will likely or undoubtedly create impacts to the community and they would come. 715 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,000 It depends on where we're looking at cuts. 716 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:41,000 But everything we do is to serve a member of the community in some way or part of run certain programs that people are using. 717 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:48,000 So if we do get in a position where we need to make additional reductions, which I think we don't anticipate. 718 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,000 We need to do that to continue our course. 719 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,000 But if we were to add new programs as an example. 720 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,000 If we're looking to add something new to a slate of programs. 721 01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:03,000 If we're looking to significantly increase the program or staffing in a particular area. 722 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000 That's when we're going to start looking at. 723 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:16,000 If we're looking for reductions that will be needed in other areas that will come with a cost to most likely a service that's being used in the community. 724 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:25,000 So just want to kind of forecast that a little bit for anybody listening now or in the future for our next financial planning process. 725 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:35,000 Because our financial planning process is when you know we love hearing from everybody in the community about what they would like to see us do in a complex over the next two years. 726 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,000 It's just significantly constrained budget situation. 727 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:43,000 That's a lot harder to do that without having to make cuts other places that will impact somebody. 728 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,000 And so we're just trying to what folks know that that may be coming. 729 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,000 It just depends a little bit on what we would be looking to add. 730 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:56,000 It depends a lot on our economic picture going forward. 731 01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:01,000 As well as other choices that we could hear from our community. 732 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:12,000 If people want something new and we can't get there without making cuts that will create potentially harm somewhere or cut surfaces that somebody really wants it or needs. 733 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,000 There are other revenue generating things that we can talk about as well. 734 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:26,000 But again that's coming from the people themselves meaning we will be looking at you know other revenue sources are typically taxes and some form or fees. 735 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:31,000 So that's just the struggle we constantly have around the work that we do. 736 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:38,000 We want to provide the services that folks are leading and asking for and but we're obviously constrained in that. 737 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:44,000 But I just want to reflect a little more and thank you for the question so that it's helping. 738 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:52,000 Get that message out as we we're already thinking about our next financial plan for sure. 739 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:58,000 And so it's never too early to start contemplating what might happen then. 740 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,000 Thanks for that additional clarification. 741 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,000 I mean definitely the decisions we make tonight about our next year budget. 742 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:10,000 Effect the kinds of decisions we can make next year when we go and turn next financial plan cycle. 743 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:20,000 Just a last question about the cost recovery principles matter saying so that's that's unchanged from the previous set of principles that's correct. 744 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:30,000 I do recall some discussions this year about challenges with a large scale events and user fee recovery on large scale events. 745 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,000 Is there any. 746 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:40,000 Thing you need from us tonight that wouldn't be in here that will be helpful direction on that or anything to discuss. 747 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:47,000 I don't know that there is specific direction that we need from council at this point on on that item. 748 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:59,000 There is one of the things that we have put on paper that we are actively trying to address through this new user fee study and so our first step is is going to happen before we even get a consultant on board. 749 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:10,000 And and in the next couple weeks I'm hoping that we'll be able to pull together all of our departments who are involved in supporting or preparing for events in some way and this could include. 750 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:22,000 First amendment events other types of special events that are are not normal and planned and and you know we're going to have we're going to kind of do an audit of what are all the things that we do. 751 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:39,000 What can we reasonably recover costs for reasonably recover costs for and identify any potential holes and so you know that that that may result in additional fees are restructuring of the fees but you know our. 752 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:55,000 Our absent any direction to the contrary and the user fee cost recovery policy are intent is to is to to calculate the fees that would that would require that would recover the cities costs and so. 753 01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:07,000 And so that's again absolutely any any changes to the policy that's what we would plan to do and bring to council next March for any feedback that you have before adoption in April. 754 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,000 Great thanks and it's a make question. 755 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,000 I'm good. Thank you. Thank you. 756 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,000 Council. I'm a shortman. 757 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:21,000 Thank you. Yeah. I have a couple of different questions, but since council member Basel was just talking about cost recovery all start there. 758 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:27,000 I noticed that in the mid range cost recovery activities. 759 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:41,000 A particular event that we don't host in the city anymore is still listed and I'm at the triathlon is listed and I'm just wondering if that is being left there as. 760 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:49,000 The two for a potential come back or is it meant to represent some other type of event that would be similar to that. 761 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:59,000 Or if we should maybe replace it with you know I don't know something more along the lines of what council member Basel saying is that supposed to represent like a large scale event. 762 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:03,000 I believe Dr. Vacuum will come up and share some input on that too. 763 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,000 Thank you. 764 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,000 Good evening. Thanks for the question. Greg of achy and director for parks and recreation. 765 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,000 It's twofold one. 766 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,000 A little fingers crossed maybe a little bit on that as as I hope. 767 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:19,000 But when we modify this we didn't really rearrange or add any new subject matter. 768 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:30,000 We kind of slid a couple from a high to a low or a mid at our last financial plan meeting, but we didn't officially adopt or redo the entire structure for a cost recovery. 769 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,000 So it's still listed listed on there. 770 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:41,000 But I think this is our opportunity as we circle around for our next financial plan to look at that and probably just generic terminology for maybe a large city style event. 771 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:49,000 Lunar New Year for example has become something of a of all play that we used to do with the triathlon so that's an opportunity to kind of look at those things. 772 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,000 Okay. 773 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,000 Thank you. 774 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:56,000 Yeah that would it would make sense to me to like generalize the term a little bit more rather than. 775 01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:03,000 Dating some very specific type of 40 years of tradition was hard to kind of erase that I think for all the best emotionally. 776 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,000 So I think we're playing. 777 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,000 We're might be ready there. 778 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:10,000 Yeah, special place in my heart to love to see you come back but no times change. 779 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,000 No worries. 780 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,000 Okay. 781 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,000 Thank you for that. 782 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,000 Then just jumping around just a little bit. 783 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,000 It wasn't really talked about in this particular report. 784 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:25,000 I know we've talked about it many, many times before, but our pension liabilities. 785 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,000 Does this particular budget. 786 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:34,000 Does it anticipate making just our regular required. 787 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:43,000 Payments to CalPERS or does it anticipate any additional payments. 788 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:50,000 So the budget presumes that we will continue to make our normal payments are unfunded liability payments. 789 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:55,000 Those are about twenty five twenty six million dollars a year. 790 01:41:55,000 --> 01:42:04,000 And our ability to make our additional discretionary payments relies upon the availability of unassigned fund balance at the end of the year. 791 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:11,000 So I think Council has given pretty good direction on prioritization of use of unassigned fund balance. 792 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:29,000 I'm getting the name of that wrong, but there you do have a fiscal policy, which you most recently adopted again in June of twenty five that prioritizes CalPERS pension payments is the first use of unassigned fund balance at the end of any given year. 793 01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,000 Okay. 794 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:40,000 So kind of looking ahead sort of like Council member Boswell does the better you all get at predicting how much we're going to have at the end of the year or not. 795 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:50,000 So potentially less likely there will be for those additional payments that we have been lucky to be able to make it in the past correct. 796 01:42:50,000 --> 01:43:00,000 And we did we removed the two million dollar placeholder for the trust and didn't we decide to remove that at a previous meeting recently. 797 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:08,000 We unassigned it and we are including it in our twenty five twenty six eighty p to CalPERS. 798 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:17,000 So the eighty p just from the general fund will be about four point four million where it's normally about two point four million. 799 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,000 So one time two million dollar bump. 800 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,000 Okay. 801 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:25,000 And we are regular ADP payments would be. 802 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:31,000 The amount that we have to pay to CalPERS each year is. 803 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:40,000 That number is created based on increases in our in our regular in our employee pool in our staffing costs correct. 804 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:44,000 So it goes up incrementally over the years we have. 805 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:53,000 Increases in salaries and benefits cost and things like yeah yeah and it's important to note that that's something that's directed by us as an organization. 806 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:57,000 So the ADP is entirely discretionary. 807 01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:02,000 It's above and beyond what we are required to pay to CalPERS every year. 808 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,000 Okay. 809 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:09,000 For a number of years we started making the ADP is back in fiscal year 2018-19. 810 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,000 And we've made about we've made over 28 million in ADP's thus far. 811 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:22,000 So we're on a good path but the the the amount was relatively stagnant for a number of years and about two years ago. 812 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:38,000 We had a discussion about inflating the ADP so that it was it was having the same impact even as the pension liability grew with the increased number of staff and increased the ongoing increase in. 813 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:43,000 Compensation did a cost of living adjustments and other things right for forgive me. 814 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:51,000 I use the term ADP and I didn't mean that I meant the required payments that we have to make are those incrementally raised by. 815 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,000 CalPERS to and they give us the number each year. 816 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,000 Yes. 817 01:44:55,000 --> 01:45:00,000 So we make a normal payment and then an unfunded accrued liability payment and CalPERS. 818 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:14,560 Tell us what those are. Thank you, Director Jackson. Just to finish your thought there, with our ADPs, I believe 819 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:21,520 we gave direction to continue to apply the escalator to that ADPs, so when we're determining it, we're 820 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:28,080 adding additional to that, and just wanted to make sure that that direction had been given in the 821 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:34,800 previous meeting. Yes, we're I think we're very clear on that, and our recommendation, just like it was 822 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:42,480 back with unassigned fund balance from 2425, I anticipate our plan is that our recommendations for 823 01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:50,320 use of unassigned fund balance will factor in what the ADPs should be, including the inflator 824 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:58,160 based upon staffing or. Thank you so much, and thank you. Yeah, and that's assuming that we have 825 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:03,600 enough money at the end of the year to do an APP on top of the required amount. Yeah, okay, thank you. 826 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:10,880 One last question, it's kind of maybe a little bit more of a specific question about the proposed changes to 827 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:19,120 one of the work items in particular. It's on page 343 of the packet under the cultural vitality 828 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:26,240 economic resilience and fiscal sustainability, and I believe Director Jackson, you can probably answer 829 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:35,280 this one because it's the 5D about the business license. I know you did this past year, I believe it was, 830 01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:40,160 or maybe it was two years ago now, but you've done a lot of work on the collection of our business 831 01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:49,280 tax and refining that process and getting more backed payments, if you will, people caught up on 832 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:56,800 their business licenses over the last year, and so I'm curious what the we wording of that language means. 833 01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:03,360 It sounds like you're anticipating even doing some more work on that process. Yes, so I would say that we, 834 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:08,240 we've made a lot of good progress. Part of that is because we're spending more money to 835 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:18,560 mail regular communications out to people. I think we've done what we can do at the staff level. 836 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:25,680 I think we're still working, we're planning to work as soon as the busy season of business licenses 837 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:32,240 has passed us this year with our communications team to improve the website to just make sure that information 838 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:38,960 is reorganizing more accessible to business operators within the community, but I think we've really 839 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:46,000 nibbled around the edges of what we can do without any council involved in and so there are a number of 840 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:55,680 issues that we've identified related to our ability to enforce the municipal code that we would like to 841 01:47:55,680 --> 01:48:05,360 were planning to do a study session with council on in early 2027, and I think it's going to be 842 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:15,200 an opportunity to get some to kind of identify some of the issues. We already have in mind some proposed 843 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:20,400 solutions, some of those are things that we can do on our own and we are doing them on our own, 844 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:25,440 but there are things that are going to require direction and a certain comfort level even if it's 845 01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:32,080 not, you know, amendments to the Muni code or passage of a resolution that we need to, we need to 846 01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:38,000 have a good sense of what council's comfort level is, especially as it relates to things like enforcement 847 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:44,160 efforts. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. I would have thought that you would have checked that one 848 01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:48,400 off your list. So when I saw more things on there, I was curious what they would be. So thank you. 849 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:53,840 You got a lot of ideas. Now that you have a lot of experience, you have a lot of ideas. All right. Thank you so 850 01:48:53,840 --> 01:49:02,080 much. Thank you. Looking forward to those. Council Member Marks. Thank you. Yeah, I had a question about 851 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:08,240 the fire station. So we have actually two that we're talking about, right? We have the temporary 852 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:16,000 fire station out there in Avola Ranch development area, and then we have fire station number five. 853 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:23,360 And so I just would like a little bit of clarity about in terms of the this budget and then the upcoming 854 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:31,040 budget. What exactly are we talking about? We said the fire station. What do you mean? Yes, thank you for the 855 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:38,560 question. When we talk about staffing and additional fire station, we do mean staffing at the interim 856 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:45,680 station that's planned to be built within the Avola Ranch development. We do have some planning efforts 857 01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:53,360 budgeted in the capital improvement plan for more permanent fifth fire that's it will also be. 858 01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:59,360 It would replace the interim station in Avola Ranch. The reason for the additional planning efforts is to 859 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:09,120 identify a more ideal location. So this one will serve the southern part of the city, but it would be 860 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:16,400 better if we had that station located St. closer to Tink Farm Road in order to have just 861 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:22,720 quicker access to other parts of our city that also drive a lot of our call volume. So we're really 862 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:29,680 looking at response times within all of our city and seeing where it is that we need to like where would 863 01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:36,320 be the ideal location for this fifth fire station. The Avola Ranch development project 864 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:45,040 had pursued and identified this is an interim station an idea that it would be kind of a stop gap. 865 01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:53,600 That concept really came out of a study done back in 2016. I think there may be somebody in the audience 866 01:50:53,600 --> 01:51:00,080 who is a little familiar with that. Study around the need for an additional fire station and it did 867 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:06,560 identify the potential for an interim location in an area once development reached a certain area and so that's 868 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:12,160 really what we're talking about today or what we're planning for opening at the essentially the beginning of 869 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:20,080 2020 to serve that part of the city but we know that's not the best location and so we want to plan for 870 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:29,520 a look at a really a larger permanent location that would be more ideal. So the immediate budget 871 01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:37,280 how do I say the need immediate budget need is for the interim and then there should be some money 872 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:46,000 located for the planning effort for station. Correct that's right and that permanent station will also 873 01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:52,560 require a very large capital contribution. I'm not sure that anybody really builds a fire station 874 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:58,880 that's of this scale that we would need for less than $30 million as an example and I'm probably 875 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:05,120 thinking that's probably more like $50 and that would spend a few seconds so that's $52 million so you 876 01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:14,240 get where I'm going with so that will be a large planning and capital undertaking for us as we go through 877 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:26,080 the future of coming years. Okay thank you I had a question about it's a user fee question about 878 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:35,200 what we're charging for or the fees that we're requiring for charging EVs in the parking structure. 879 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:41,120 Is that included in this budget or is this something that's just being planned at this point? 880 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:49,440 I'm happy to my mic and light on happy to take that on our parking rates are not addressed in our 881 01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:57,200 user fee studies generally those are done through a separate rate study process. The EV charging rates are 882 01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:05,920 actually established by the city manager pursuant to a prior direction from the city council and so 883 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:12,560 we are continuing to evaluate our charging rates that are existing in our current what's called 884 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:18,160 lot four which is in the Mar Street structure at the bottom four and then also the rates that are currently 885 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:24,000 in effect in our new structure in the cultural arts district parking garage and we just had a 886 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:30,800 conversation about this yesterday actually and are continually looking at ways of refining and how we 887 01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:38,800 might set those in a way that will both encourage people to use them as well as make sure that we're 888 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:44,480 recovering costs and doing it appropriately from that standpoint so it wouldn't be addressed in this 889 01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:52,880 upcoming user fee study. Okay so but the EV charging is in the user fee. It is not. 890 01:53:52,880 --> 01:54:02,480 What is it? I know it was in there. Okay thank you. Let's see in terms of the going back to the business 891 01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:13,200 licenses again we keep some of us keep saying we need to list each rental units separately and 892 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:20,880 I'm wondering how that is reflected or not reflected in the budget we're looking at right now. 893 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:27,760 It's somewhat tied up with the rental registry idea in that it would be kind of a first step. 894 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:37,760 Right now the my understanding is that if someone owns a bunch of rentals they just need to have one 895 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:45,600 business license and so that makes it hard for tenants and residents in general to know whether 896 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:56,000 their landlord is actually paying that business license. So to what extent is an effort toward 897 01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:04,320 holding landlords more accountable on that level included in this budget document we're looking at right now. 898 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:13,840 Yeah so there's not a specific appropriation recommendations to move that effort forward and 899 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:20,400 that is one of the items that we would like to discuss with council in the upcoming business 900 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:27,360 license study session is the question of how should business licenses be structured the code currently 901 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:34,320 requires that you have a business license for each physical location that you have. So we've got a couple 902 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:43,440 of pretty good examples of that in in the city right now we've got you know scout black horse and slow 903 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:49,680 joke ho off the top of my head which all have multiple locations same business they all have individual 904 01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:59,360 business licenses for each of their physical addresses. So six among the three businesses we 905 01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:08,880 we don't see the same thing with residential rentals and so that's that's one of the things that we would 906 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:16,080 like to discuss with council is what should the requirement be we've heard you know in the past very much 907 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:20,720 along the lines of what you're saying that we should require a business license for each physical address 908 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:27,680 regardless of business type and so that is an option it's also an option and may not meet the needs of 909 01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:32,720 you know a potential of rental housing enforcement but there is an option to also just have the 910 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:39,760 property management company have one license and then everything under under that license for all the 911 01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:47,520 properties that are owned so different agencies do it differently and those they're both options and 912 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:52,800 there's upsides and downsides to both they think the you know the difficulty the difficulty that we 913 01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:59,840 have and one of the things that we discussed as part of the rental registry study session a couple of 914 01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:08,320 months ago is that we we don't have a way of knowing for sure where all of the rental houses are and so 915 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:20,240 we do we we try together information when a rental rental rental housing businesses opening when they 916 01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:26,880 apply for a new license we attempt to get a listing from them of all of the addresses that they 917 01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:33,040 have that they're planning to cover under that business license and but we can only go on the information 918 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:38,160 that they voluntarily tell us and we don't have the ability or the capacity to go out and do an audit 919 01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:46,160 of all of the rental housing properties within the city limits but that's that is that is one of the 920 01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:54,560 topics for consideration in the study session yeah well study sessions are great but it's also wonderful 921 01:57:54,560 --> 01:58:09,040 to get things done sometimes so we see if I have some more questions let's see the request that we got through 922 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:23,680 an email for having some fun set aside for ADA curb cutouts in the neighborhoods is that something 923 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:29,120 that can be accommodated within this budget or is this something that council would have to direct 924 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:36,240 I may want to phone a friend on that again but you know I like Madeleine highlighted in her presentation 925 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:45,440 of the CIP aside from the the really large scale capital projects that we do in some years I'm transportation 926 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:53,920 infrastructure is one of the single largest kind of categories of work that we do in any given year 927 01:58:53,920 --> 01:59:00,240 and regardless of what the actual project is there's always pedestrian improvements and pedestrian 928 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:05,440 improvements included in those projects even if it's just a paving project that's intended to support 929 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:11,520 you know bicycles and cars there's there's we we usually have to touch a sidewalk and we'll do a 930 01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:19,200 curb ramp replacement at that point as well and so wherever you see transportation projects I think it's reasonable to 931 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:24,880 assume that there's some curb ramp work being done in that area as well but I'll let Ryan look like 932 01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:32,000 provide me. Yeah thank you for the question Brian Nelson situation here we do incorporate ADA 933 01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:37,360 improvements into our roadway paving projects so by federal law we actually have to upgrade 934 01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:43,680 curb ramps if we're paving the adjacent street so a recent example that is the paving work on Sacramento 935 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:51,360 and Tank Farm where we upgraded the ramps on those roadways so those ramps in some cases they they look 936 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:56,640 like they exist and they don't need to be upgraded but oftentimes federal standards get more stringent 937 01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:02,000 over the years so even though there are ramps there existing 938 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,000 We do have to replace them to current standards, which basically look like specific width for the ramps and the landings, as well as the slopes that meet the professional or the public rights away guide published by the federal government. 939 02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:23,000 So, in addition to that, we also look at incorporating as funding allows some ongoing ramp improvements that we've received from the community. 940 02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:35,000 So, over the years we do get emails, we get requests for corners that don't have ramps that there's no physical way to get down to the street level or in accessible to those with mobility challenges. 941 02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:47,000 And in recent history, we've capitalized on grant funding if it's available to incorporate of smaller projects to just do neighborhood ramp improvements where we can. 942 02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:53,000 And sometimes, in addition, the grant funding we utilize completed projects funds if available to do that. 943 02:00:53,000 --> 02:01:06,000 So, as we look forward in the next funding, the budget year, you know, we can look for opportunities to to utilize completed projects funding to make some headway on those those neighborhood ramp requests. 944 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:14,000 Could look like surveys, design work, and trying to leverage some future capital funding to implement some of those with future payment projects, for example. 945 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:26,000 Okay, so there wouldn't, I noticed that the 80 ramp update for the downtown is called Ellis a separate item, but not for the rest of the city or the residential areas. 946 02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:34,000 There's a sidewalk maintenance capital improvement project. Yeah, that that incorporates both street tree sidewalk replacements. 947 02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:41,000 So, uplifts of the sidewalk caused by street trees that create, you know, slope issues or a great separation from street trees. 948 02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:46,000 It also, in some cases, does replace curb ramps on a, you know, we'll want off basis. 949 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:55,000 So, within the budget there is an item in there. There is one curb ramp we've identified that we'd like to replace within that funding amount within that sidewalk item. 950 02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:59,000 Yes. Thank you. 951 02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,000 I think that's all the questions in the hand. 952 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:10,000 I'm going to ask a real quick follow up to that too. So if someone is in their neighborhood and they see that a curb ramp, the yellow. 953 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:17,000 Black or it is coming up or something of that sort of crack that's not good. 954 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:22,000 Anyway, going to their ask slow or reaching out to us online. 955 02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:27,000 That would be the way to get one of them taking care of quicker if there's an actual problem in your someone's home. 956 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:33,000 Yeah, it's very helpful to know, so we have we have thousands of curb ramps, thousands of corners. 957 02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:39,000 We don't always know what the specific issues users are encountering is in that when the urgency. 958 02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:46,000 As slow as a great resource to receive those requests email is often times the way we get those requests. 959 02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:47,000 What do you need? 960 02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:57,000 The public works email address or phone number, any staff email address, sitting in your director, whoever it will get funnel to the right place. 961 02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,000 There's the contact link on the website. 962 02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:00,000 We'll get you there. 963 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:01,000 Great. 964 02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,000 Thank you so much. 965 02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:03,000 Yeah. 966 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:04,000 All right. 967 02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:05,000 Vice Mayor. 968 02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,000 Yeah. 969 02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,000 Thank you to Michael. 970 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,000 Just one more question on the fee recovery. 971 02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,000 This is probably for Director of Ake in here. 972 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:20,000 We've had a lengthy discussion about potentially looking at sort of tiered rate structures for residents and non-residents. 973 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:29,000 And there's some discussion here under number five about cost recovery activities less than 100% should have a differential in rates between residents and non-residents. 974 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:36,000 And I guess my question is just kind of about the study that's coming up and whether or not we're going to look at. 975 02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:41,000 Some of the things that tend to fill up quickly like swim lessons in child care. 976 02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:52,000 If there's any way to kind of ensure that that tiering system sort of encourages that residents are, if not first in line, at least kind of more likely to get to those spots. 977 02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,000 The priority. 978 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,000 Prioritized. 979 02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:56,000 Thank you. 980 02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:57,000 It's still my word. 981 02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,000 Thank you. 982 02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,000 Well, great question. 983 02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:04,000 And I think this is another opportunity for the first time incorporating the resident non-resident fee in our last study. 984 02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:07,000 And right now still assessing how that goes. 985 02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,000 And the first year of inclusion. 986 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:16,000 Other agencies that we did survey throughout this process have even a pre-registration timeline. 987 02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:19,000 So it could be something incorporating, especially like a swim lesson program. 988 02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:28,000 That's highly impacted not a lot of opportunity because it's kind of a seasonal format and small ratios of classes that you could do. 989 02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:33,000 Maybe it's a two week early early bird registration for residents and then you fill in after that. 990 02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:42,000 It will just come down to probably some equity and kind of assessing that on value and fairness at the same time. 991 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:46,000 We want to kind of look at what other agencies are experiencing is like successful. 992 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,000 Does it make it more complicated? 993 02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:54,000 So it's not just necessarily about the fee recovery, but also an equitable access to our programs. 994 02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:55,000 Absolutely. 995 02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,000 I know another community that I've been a member of. 996 02:04:57,000 --> 02:05:02,000 There's oftentimes sort of a recreation card that you utilize in order to get access to. 997 02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:08,000 To get access to all the different recreation facilities and I'm wondering if that's something that could help unlock. 998 02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:15,000 Being able to determine easily and accessing all these different resources on a resident or non resident basis. 999 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:20,000 Those things are available to the non residents but kind of identify them as a non resident. 1000 02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:26,000 So when they go in they tap it or use it however they're going to kind of helps navigate that system. 1001 02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,000 I've used that system. 1002 02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:33,000 I guess not 25 years ago, but yeah it was a it was valued at that point. 1003 02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:37,000 I think the other portion of this is looking at our scholarship. 1004 02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:41,000 And also like some of our school district. 1005 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:48,000 Students might be from out of out of the area, but we consider them residents because are within our school district from most of our programs. 1006 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:53,000 And just going again finding all those kind of punch list and making sure that we're not. 1007 02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:56,000 Being accessible for everybody really glad that's on your radar. 1008 02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:01,000 Make sure that all of our school aged kids have access to all of those resources that are residents. 1009 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,000 One of your priorities one of our priorities. 1010 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:04,000 Thank you. 1011 02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,000 Thank you. 1012 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,000 And can you say right there for one more minute. 1013 02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:09,000 Kind of tying along with that same conversation. 1014 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:12,000 We were talking about the childcare and different. 1015 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:19,000 Low medium high as far as the recovery and at one point you know we said child care is one of the high priorities. 1016 02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:21,000 But it's gone into the medium. 1017 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:28,000 That cost recovery and so I think you said the key word right there which is the scholarship because one of the things that we were concerned. 1018 02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,000 I was concerned about was. 1019 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:35,000 If people are coming from low income households and yet. 1020 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:37,000 Having to pay the full high price. 1021 02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,000 I was worried about that now. 1022 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,000 Do we know anything about the cap. 1023 02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,000 Substities are those still here. 1024 02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:46,000 How does that work for someone that's coming and saying anything about. 1025 02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:49,000 Yeah we're we're in a good place right now in our. 1026 02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:53,000 In our area are both our school district cap slow and the city. 1027 02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:57,000 Thanks to the financial contributions by the council on our scholarships. 1028 02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:01,000 Multiple like avenues and tools that they can apply for. 1029 02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:06,000 So we have our city scholarships around 39 to 40,000 that we budget every year. 1030 02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,000 That are utilized for qualified families. 1031 02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:14,000 And they get a different tier based on their household income. 1032 02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,000 So it's a thousand dollars or a five hundred dollar per child kind of opportunity. 1033 02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:21,000 The cap slow also has their funding. 1034 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,000 Boach they pay directly to the families. 1035 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:29,000 So we help it vendors turn that but it's really through cap slow it's so it's removed from the city's responsibility. 1036 02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:35,000 But we track that as well and then the school district also provides opportunities. 1037 02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:41,000 For supporting their their clientele so it depends on the program with we do we have before school. 1038 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:47,000 We have our T.K program and our after school programs and they all have different tiers and categories based on that. 1039 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:51,000 But we have a lot of different opportunities for families to apply. 1040 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:55,000 And I don't know if they double dip or triple dip or have that opportunity. 1041 02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:58,000 But I know that we can track our city scholarships. 1042 02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:02,000 And then we also track the cap slow because we help facilitate those. 1043 02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,000 Yeah, thank you. 1044 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,000 Perfect. Thank you. 1045 02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:06,000 Okay. 1046 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:11,000 Well thank you to my colleagues you've asked all of my questions sort of that last one. 1047 02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:15,000 So I do have one more question I think around the business licenses. 1048 02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:17,000 So I think I'll come back to that later. 1049 02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:24,000 So with that we're going to do a five minute seven seven seven ending stretch and then we'll go back. 1050 02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:25,000 Thank you. 1051 02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:55,000 Thank you. 1052 02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:25,000 Thank you. 1053 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:59,000 Thank you. 1054 02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:08,000 Thank you. 1055 02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:21,000 Thank you. 1056 02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:30,000 Thank you. 1057 02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:40,000 Thank you. 1058 02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:14,000 Thank you. 1059 02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:23,000 Thank you. 1060 02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:35,000 Thank you. 1061 02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:44,000 Thank you. 1062 02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:54,000 Thank you. 1063 02:12:54,000 --> 02:13:03,000 Thank you. 1064 02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:24,000 Thank you. 1065 02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:28,000 Thank you. 1066 02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,000 Thank you. 1067 02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:46,000 Thank you. 1068 02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:59,000 Thank you. 1069 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:09,000 Thank you. 1070 02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:18,000 Thank you. 1071 02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:27,000 Thank you. 1072 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:42,000 Thank you. 1073 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:59,000 Thank you. 1074 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:16,000 Thank you all. We'll get right back started for public comments, city clerk. 1075 02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:31,000 We have five speakers. We'll start off with Stephen Barrish, followed by Leslie Hall's and Lianzianish. 1076 02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:34,000 Good evening, members of the city council. 1077 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:39,000 I know I was the first public member of the city's finance committee for over five years. 1078 02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:51,000 I had access to a lot of the city records and I really appreciate Michelle's comment about calpers because that is our one single largest debt in the city. 1079 02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:59,000 I've kept kind of quiet for three years since I got off that committee, but I'd like to get some feedback just tonight. 1080 02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:03,000 It's a ceremony about how we're going to deal with our city's insolvency. 1081 02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:12,000 Now, insolvency means in simple terms that we own more in debts than we have in assets. 1082 02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:21,000 We've had the city buildings appraised in the last ten years and then updated. 1083 02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:31,000 Insolvency is kind of like you filling out alone application. You have to list all your assets. You have to list all your liabilities. 1084 02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:45,000 I'm sure some of you have gone out for loans in the last five years and it's been really, really difficult the banks have been very nitpicky on who they give loans to because they don't credit extended for too long. 1085 02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:51,000 But insolvency creates a problem in terms of our borrowing rates. 1086 02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:58,000 It creates a problem with review of our assets and our priorities for physical improvements. 1087 02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:07,000 I happen to be both an architect and have a business degree and I really sense the city has not really tackled. 1088 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:12,000 The long-term insolvency issues. We're not going bankrupt. That's not an issue. 1089 02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:17,000 But we are in a situation where our debt is becoming larger and larger. 1090 02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:25,000 For example, CalPERS, the interest on our unfunded liability is over a million to a month. 1091 02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:35,000 I mean, it's really high. If you're paying 30 million or so a year, you can see how that interest on the unfunded liability is compounded. 1092 02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:45,000 I think we should really have some kind of focus group on the city council looking at our long-term debt obligations. 1093 02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:52,000 Outside of what kind of projects we think the public needs wants or desires. 1094 02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:56,000 Because this insolvency problem has been kicked down the road for many years. 1095 02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:10,000 And unfortunately, this council is saddled with having to deal with the impacts of that insolvency in terms of bond ratings and in terms of dealing with outside vendors. 1096 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:15,000 So it's not going to go away unless we really start focusing on it kind of soon. 1097 02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:19,000 I'm done. I've got 15 seconds left. Thank you. 1098 02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:25,000 No bother for you. Thank you so much. 1099 02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:35,000 Good evening. My name is Leslie Halls. I've lived here since 1979 and served on a various number of committees over the years. 1100 02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:44,000 I was very pleased that councilwoman Shores have been asked about the public employees retirement system debt because I want to address that. 1101 02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:54,000 Nobody from staff here said anything about it as you noticed. This was not on the agenda, I guess, but Michelle, thank you for bringing it up. 1102 02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:59,000 You've inherited an enormous fiscal mess. It's not of your making. You inherited it. 1103 02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:04,000 We owe over $260 million to CalPERS. 1104 02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:08,000 $260 million. Let that sink in. 1105 02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:13,000 That's a lot of debt for a city of $47,700 people. 1106 02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:17,000 The interest alone on this debt is over a million dollars a month. 1107 02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:21,000 A million dollars a month. Bleeding out of our city just to pay the interest. 1108 02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:25,000 Like the interest on your credit card that you never want to pay off. 1109 02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:32,000 You know, like I say, you didn't create this mess, but you got to deal with it because now we're on the state's watch list. 1110 02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:40,000 And we're looking at insolvency and I don't think you want to be on the city council when the state calls this do and says pay up. 1111 02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:47,000 The time to tackle this elephant in the room is now and you're not going to do it by just leaving four positions vacant. 1112 02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:56,000 You're not going to do it by just trimming the edges if you will. We need to make some serious cuts and staffing because it is staffing that is driving this debt. 1113 02:21:56,000 --> 02:22:00,000 And this is an addition to other debts like for parking garages and the like. 1114 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:05,000 And the more debt we have the higher our interest payments are when we go for another bond. It's very simple. 1115 02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:11,000 So I think what you need to do is consider some cuts across the board maybe 10%. 1116 02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:16,000 There have been a lot of people hired in the last seven or eight years to do specific projects. 1117 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:22,000 Maybe those jobs aren't needed anymore. I know some of you are rolling your eyes at me at the thought of cutting staffing. 1118 02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:29,000 But you know, you don't want to cheat these city employees out of their retirement benefits that they've been working for and they have paid into. 1119 02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:40,000 And don't think the state is going to come along and give you millions of dollars to pay this off when other cities are doing a better job and are not facing these kinds of problems. 1120 02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:51,000 Again, this is not something you created. You inherited this mess and I've been following it for almost 20 years now and nobody has had the courage to say we got to stop and take a look at this. 1121 02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:56,000 I think you should really re-graph this entire budget take a look at where you can cut. 1122 02:22:56,000 --> 02:23:01,000 The a lot of these cuts will not impact the average person out on the street. 1123 02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:07,000 It's going to impact people here at City Hall. It's going to impact some of these department heads all of whom showed up tonight. 1124 02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:20,000 But you know what if they want to have a retirement we need to make these tough decisions and I guarantee you with the good you have done for this city with bike lanes transportation roundabouts child care and everything else. 1125 02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:26,000 Nobody's going to oppose you because you decided to tackle the hard issues. Thank you. 1126 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:30,000 Thank you. 1127 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:36,000 After we understand this, we have Armina Kareem and Amy Lynn Hilderbrand. 1128 02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:48,000 Well, greeting council and mayor. My name is Lee Ann Sanis. I'm the executive director of Sloma and I'm here to share a follow on Emily's update about our project. 1129 02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:52,000 As you know, if you've read our report, which is extensive and very pretty. 1130 02:23:52,000 --> 02:24:00,000 Sloma has secured all the permits and entitlements we need for phase one. Our interior demolition is underway. 1131 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:10,000 Things are happening. We're on track for a grand opening in July of 27 and we couldn't have moved this fast without the incredible support of city staff every step of the way. 1132 02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:19,000 The community is showing up in a really big way. The response has been extraordinary. Thanks to the large part of the city's early investment and enthusiasm. 1133 02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:28,000 Sloma has raised over eight and a half million from 32 million donors hitting 100% of our construction goal for phase one. 1134 02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:38,000 Our donor community is wonderfully diverse spanning the private sector, foundations and hundreds of individual supporters who believe in what we're building. 1135 02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:44,000 Things are coming to downtown Slo. The expanded museum is going to be a real engine for downtown vitality. 1136 02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:48,000 We're projecting more than 100,000 visitors in our first year alone. 1137 02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:53,000 Bringing energy, foot traffic and spending to local businesses while submitting. 1138 02:24:53,000 --> 02:25:02,000 Sloma or San Luis Obisso is well it earned reputation as a cultural destination and we're keeping the momentum going. 1139 02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:13,000 The things scarce we had to stop and look even during construction. Sloma stays committed with our community through partnerships with downtown Slo, local businesses and cultural organizations. 1140 02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:23,000 We're continuing to activate public art hosting pop up programming and launching a marketing campaign that keeps Sloma visible and exciting right through opening day. 1141 02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:38,000 We're thrilled about what's next. As phase one construction moves forward we're looking ahead to phase two focused on property acquisition to secure Sloma's future as a free accessible resource for every resident visitor. 1142 02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:47,000 We're excited to work with the city toward securing additional commitment this fall and helping to realize this community gym for generations. 1143 02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:49,000 Thank you so much. 1144 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:50,000 Thank you. 1145 02:25:54,000 --> 02:26:07,000 Good evening Mayor Stuart and council members as co board chair of Sloma and chair of the expansion project I want to begin by thanking this council for its leadership. 1146 02:26:07,000 --> 02:26:16,000 It's hard to believe it was less than eight months ago that you made a commitment to invest in a bold vision and over the last six weeks as demo has been. 1147 02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:21,000 Really underway you've been able to tangibly see that vision turn into reality. 1148 02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:28,000 So projects like this do not move forward because of a single vote so for that I want to offer my sincere thanks to city staff. 1149 02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:37,000 As you heard from Leanne we've made incredible progress and that's because many public servants has spent countless hours helping navigate permits. 1150 02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:43,000 Solve problems answer questions and really work collaboratively towards this shared goal. 1151 02:26:43,000 --> 02:26:46,000 We are deeply grateful for the partnership. 1152 02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:57,000 So I'm a little tired because a few hours ago I returned from New York and on Sunday I had the opportunity to visit the newly reopened and absolutely ons firing studio museum in Harlem. 1153 02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:06,000 And as I took in the space and there's that there's like beautiful representation of the timeline it's been a 60 year journey into this new home. 1154 02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:10,000 It struck me that that museum wasn't really about a stunning building. 1155 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:17,000 It was a culmination of decades of community belief, philanthropy and civic leadership. 1156 02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:25,000 The city's November commitment helped signal that this project matters and in return as Leanne shared the community has had an incredible response. 1157 02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:38,000 An exciting most is that the return on the city's modest investment which currently is about 4% of the total funds raised to date will be measured not only in dollars but in an ROI of experiences. 1158 02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:43,000 Families gathering downtown children experiencing art for the first time. 1159 02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:52,000 Being able to see their work in their community visitors spending more time in our downtown and future generations and haridine a community asset that they can be proud of. 1160 02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:58,000 And while tonight is an update I will leave you with this thought momentum matters. 1161 02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:04,000 The progress we are celebrating today was made possible because leadership came early. 1162 02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:14,000 The city investment signals confidence confidence drives philanthropy and philanthropy creates a lasting community asset in the heart of our downtown. 1163 02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:25,000 So as we move into this next phase of the effort our focus as Leanne noted is shifting to securing this long-term future a long-term future for this community asset. 1164 02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:33,000 We look forward to continuing this conversation with you in the coming months and for tonight tonight I will end with a simple thank you. 1165 02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:35,000 Thank you. 1166 02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:37,000 And lastly. 1167 02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:42,000 Amy Lynn Hilderbrand. 1168 02:28:50,000 --> 02:29:01,000 Thank you city council for taking public comments and I do want to commend some things that you have done you have been. 1169 02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:07,000 Been quote careful with your spending you have been aiming towards right sizing. 1170 02:29:07,000 --> 02:29:15,000 You are aiming towards being physically responsible and you have a quote balance budget unquote. 1171 02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:20,000 I grew up in San Luis and I want to stay here. 1172 02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:26,000 I have friends that leave this city because they can't afford this city. 1173 02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:33,000 I have friends who can live here because they've been here a long time but their children cannot live here. 1174 02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:37,000 I'm concerned that's why I'm here tonight. 1175 02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:43,000 I'm here to beg you to look at this again. 1176 02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:51,000 I want to commend you Michelle Sherman for asking some tough questions about that debt. 1177 02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:57,000 The debt interest alone is 1.2 million dollars per month. 1178 02:29:57,000 --> 02:30:00,000 I can't fathom that kind of money. 1179 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:19,000 And of money, even though my bachelor's is from Cal Poly in business administration. And I want to ask you a very important question, all of you, what could you spend on with 1.2 million dollars more a month? 1180 02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:38,000 I want you to think about it, a lot. And I want you to consider the impact of compound interest, which makes every single month worse. 1181 02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:48,000 And I want you to think about people like me that are horrified at the idea of living the community they grew up in. 1182 02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:59,000 They birthed their child in. And the thought that many people are leaving this community because it's becoming absolutely ineffordable. 1183 02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:10,000 And I'm not alone. But some of my friends are working two jobs, some of them are working three because we love this community. 1184 02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:27,000 So I'm begging you to look at your budget again. I know I really do know that it's not easy to cut, but you're going to have to. If you're going to be able to do for this community what we deserve. 1185 02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:35,000 I'm just going to ask you and I'm going to thank you for what you've already done, but I'm going to ask you to go deeper. Thank you very much. 1186 02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:37,000 Thank you. 1187 02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:40,000 Any other commenters? 1188 02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:41,000 No. 1189 02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:43,000 Okay, thank you. 1190 02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:52,000 Well, thank you to everyone who spoke. We really appreciate your input. And as always, I thank people who emailed us already and shared their thoughts. 1191 02:31:52,000 --> 02:32:00,000 There was a lot of input. And, you know, this budget. It's a lot of money. And we're trying to figure out how to manage this community in a regular basis. 1192 02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:06,000 And I am so thankful for all the departments who went and looked through your budgets and figured out what can we do. 1193 02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:18,000 And to be able to be at this point where we have this balanced budget and a little bit more is definitely better than we were looking at two years ago. And I think you count them or buzz well for mentioning that as well. 1194 02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:31,000 So with that, I just wondered first and foremost if there's any response from staff before we get into additional questions or deliberation city manager. 1195 02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:39,000 Thank you very much. Just just a few comments that we want to make sure to kind of be clear on. 1196 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:54,000 Just as that our current unfunded liability with CalPERS. So that's the amount that we've occurred that we pay that $24 to $26 million a year toward is just over $188 million. 1197 02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:59,000 And of course, that's a very big number, but it's not $260 million. 1198 02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:13,000 That's the current amount that we at least that was as of June 30th of 2024. It takes CalPERS a while to catch up our additional payments in terms of what they report back to us. 1199 02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:21,000 So it does literally take them an entire year to get back to us on where we're at with our unfunded liability amount. 1200 02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:29,000 What we've been paying to them in additional discretionary payments above and beyond what we are required to pay. It does bring that amount down. 1201 02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:44,000 The struggle that we have is that it's also reflects what happens in the market. And so if the markets do well, then our unfunded liability amount can do better and if the markets don't do well, then it can kind of take a hit. 1202 02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:54,000 So it doesn't mean we don't keep trying because we definitely do. So just wanted to make that clear. That's why we're at with our unfunded liability amount. 1203 02:33:54,000 --> 02:34:00,000 Also wanted to make sure in a sure folks. We are not on a state watch list related to our budget. 1204 02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:08,000 We do receive rewards for our budget the way we put it together and provide that information to the public. 1205 02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:20,000 And we're not in any danger of in solvency that's not a term that we would take lightly if that were even the you know, faintest possibility. 1206 02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:25,000 I do appreciate the recognition that bankruptcy is not in our future because that is true as well. 1207 02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:36,000 We are in very solid standing our current bond rating is a double A bond rating. And so bonding agencies look at our debt portfolio before they give us a rating. 1208 02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:47,000 We did go through this just a couple years ago when we issued bonds related to our parking structure that we enabled us to build a new 40 million dollar asset. 1209 02:34:47,000 --> 02:35:02,000 And so again when they look at our overall credit rating they look at all of our assets and all of our liabilities and ensure to assure people who are on the market buying those bonds that they will get their money back after we repeat it. 1210 02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:07,000 So I just want to let folks know that those questions that came up. 1211 02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:17,000 We of course are consistently looking at them. Our calipers means are an ongoing conversation. I know we talk about that with you all. 1212 02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:23,000 At least yearly if not more when we look at making that additional discretionary payment if you recall. 1213 02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:38,000 I know I do we got stuck in a little bit of a loop that I created to some degree talking about how much additional additional payments we were going to be making to CalPERS to address that debt overall. 1214 02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:49,000 So I just wanted to thank you for the moment to provide a little bit of clarity and if there's any additional information then maybe needs to be added happy to do that to. 1215 02:35:50,000 --> 02:36:06,000 Yeah, I think I think the city manager covered it really well. I think the only thing that I would add is that we in addition to having a rating from standard and poor as a couple of years ago related to the issuance of the debt for the cultural arts district parking structure. 1216 02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:23,000 And the other rating agency that greats us and we meet with them. They do a full review every couple of years and they do annual surveillance is I talk to them just in February of this year and based on that conversation. 1217 02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:31,000 I've provided a lot of follow-up information that their requests related to our overall financial position and our plans moving forward. 1218 02:36:31,000 --> 02:36:46,000 And they affirmed our double a bond rating and just to be clear a double a bond rating from an industry standpoint represents a very strong capacity to meet financial commitments. 1219 02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:59,000 And the question I remember discussing this during our cultural arts district parking structure conversation and that was actually how we were able to borrow a little bit less, which was really helpful for us as a community. 1220 02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:03,000 So thank you for bringing that up and I appreciate it and thank you city manager as well. 1221 02:37:03,000 --> 02:37:15,000 You know, I just looked real quick and I see that the CalPERS stopped printing a watch list so I don't know where that would be but something that's good to know that we're not on it so I appreciate that. 1222 02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:20,000 So bringing it back to deliberation. 1223 02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:28,000 I wanted to first just say what I thank you all to Council for your many questions. 1224 02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:44,000 I think all of us are trying to look at how do we continue to of course not just stay balanced but find this balance of what we can do and what we can't do as we heard the needs of safety earlier for many neighborhoods and communities as well as trying to figure out how we can help with. 1225 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:56,000 Substandard housing and business licenses and code enforcement so we have a wide range of things let alone parks and fun things for the summer that we're getting excited about. 1226 02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:02,000 So this covers a multitude of conversation and a multitude of services and programs and so. 1227 02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:11,000 I just really appreciate again all of the time it's been taken to look at how we can do this even even better with less expenses when possible. 1228 02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:15,000 And I also know that one thing that we do. 1229 02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:22,000 On there I forget a couple years back when I said yes please go look for free money please and so that's something that. 1230 02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:34,000 I know that staff you take great care in is looking at are there grants available is they're finding available whether it's federal whether it's state whether it's nonprofit. 1231 02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:44,000 A partner that we can work with and forget how we can still make things happen when times are a little tough it's a different time so thank you for that. 1232 02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:49,000 With that I'll bring it back to the council council resortsman. 1233 02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:54,000 Sure thank you Mayor. 1234 02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:59,000 Of course as soon as I start to talk. 1235 02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:03,000 As soon as I start to talk my frog appears in my throat. 1236 02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:06,000 So thank you for kicking us off Mayor. 1237 02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:11,000 Just want to start out by thanking staff for the very. 1238 02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:23,000 Thero yet the same report and thank you for the time that you took earlier I think was late last week to kind of give me at least a briefing in advance of this so there wasn't really any. 1239 02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:32,000 I have a big surprise is in the report when I went to go read it and I did ask a fair number of questions so I appreciate getting those answers in advance. 1240 02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:42,000 I know that staff and leadership worked incredibly hard this last year in this cycle to look for ways that we could. 1241 02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:46,000 Continue our commitments to the community without. 1242 02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:51,000 Any cuts that we're going to be really really felt by our community member but I still know. 1243 02:39:51,000 --> 02:40:00,000 I've had to go through this process myself in my in my everyday job and I know it's not fun and it's difficult and I really appreciate all the. 1244 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:13,000 Digging deep and looking carefully at every single line item to see where we can again make those cuts but still try to avoid negative impacts on the community so thank you for that. 1245 02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:25,000 And I also recognize that as you all get better at this as I mentioned in my questions there's likely going to be less and less of those year end funds. 1246 02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:42,000 As you get better at predicting how much we're going to how much we're going to need and how much are forecasting shows us you as you start to get those numbers closer and closer together it means those year and balances at the end of the year are likely to get smaller and so. 1247 02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:50,000 We've been able to do a lot of really cool one time things with that money at the end of the year and that's going to get harder and harder to do. 1248 02:40:50,000 --> 02:41:07,000 So as we do that I just want to re emphasize that I think it's it's important for us to continue to stick to our priorities when those numbers shrink of you know paying down our pension liabilities and also saving for some of the big projects that we have coming up. 1249 02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:15,000 We have some pretty pretty big commitments that we've made in the new fire station the Proto road over past the Proto bridge. 1250 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:22,000 The police station we've got some pretty big projects that are going to be very expensive and again I. 1251 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:35,000 I'm not a big fan of borrowing money if we don't have to so I recognize what our public commenter said about you know the difficulty in having that debt sort of hanging over our heads as the city. 1252 02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:48,000 I know it's necessary sometimes and again it's been it's enabled us to do some pretty big important things that our communities benefiting now but I always want to try to minimize that as much as we can so. 1253 02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:59,000 I'm prepared to support the recommended supplemental budget as is I think I will go back just because it was mentioned earlier I think by our city manager about. 1254 02:41:59,000 --> 02:42:03,000 supporting short term solutions in the. 1255 02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:15,000 Meto park broad street neighborhood there and I'm I'm pretty content with what staff has said that they can do with the paving project I'm hesitant to. 1256 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:32,000 put too much additional funds especially out of the broad street project itself we set aside a very definite amount of money for that project and we also obtained a pretty reasonable size grant to do that project and some little hesitant to. 1257 02:42:32,000 --> 02:42:44,000 promise to dedicate some of those funds to a short term project when we don't really know what that project is really going to result in yet so if staff can be creative with the short term solutions. 1258 02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:57,000 out of the already established possum money that we have for this year that would be my preference and if we do get to the point where we may be need to prioritize some of those. 1259 02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:13,000 I was trying to think through the acronym the neighborhood transportation management projects and reprioritize them I would personally rather that recommendation or that conversation go to the active transportation committee first and have them. 1260 02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:22,000 make recommendations about how to reprioritize things if we needed to go that way first they they have the ability to do the deep dive in the years the ground. 1261 02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:30,000 on that better than I think even we do just from here making those decisions without that information so. 1262 02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:34,000 I'll stop there and hear what my colleagues have to say. 1263 02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:36,000 Thank you vice mayor. 1264 02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:38,000 Yeah, thank you so much. 1265 02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:49,000 I'll just second all of the thanks for the hard work from staff and administration getting us here today I know there were some scary projections of numbers a while back and. 1266 02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:59,000 and thanks to an economy that's been very weird and all of your hard work I'm glad we're in a much better place so definitely appreciated. 1267 02:43:59,000 --> 02:44:07,000 You know looking ahead I was appreciating the end of the kickoff from council member Boswell kind of thinking about. 1268 02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:26,000 our needs in the future and any projects that we've got our eye on it's going to get a little trickier to carve out extra funds for those things and you know we we've been making some real promises to the community in terms of investing in tenant protections as well as all the big projects mentioned by council member shores men so. 1269 02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:41,000 I think we're going to need to think a little bit about where we're going to find the funds to make sure that we're funding these things sustainably and keeping our promises to the community. 1270 02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:52,000 I'm also wanted to second council member shores men's comments about balancing the immediate needs of the neighborhood around broad and funston you know I'm very cautious about making sure that we're not. 1271 02:44:52,000 --> 02:45:00,000 I'm just slowing down the long term project there it sounds like we've got some good solutions in place by kind of utilizing the paving project. 1272 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:10,000 So when we jump ahead too much, we miss out on kind of thinking about the big picture there. So kind of careful balance from staff. And I trust that you all will do that really well. 1273 02:45:10,000 --> 02:45:15,000 I know we're asked here about the user fee cost recovery. 1274 02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:29,000 I think our priorities here look really good. I am interested in kind of seeing what creative ideas come out of here in terms of thinking about our resident versus non-resident and kind of higher cost recovery on those types of uses. 1275 02:45:29,000 --> 02:45:43,000 Our large scale events. And we have to do a lot of evaluation of some of the different types of events that we host in our city and how to make sure that we're doing that in a responsible way. 1276 02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:47,000 I trust that there'll be some good answers that come out of that study. 1277 02:45:47,000 --> 02:46:01,000 And on the topic of slow-month, I'm interested in exploring a scenario where some portion of the funds are allocated annually, but I want to have that conversation at year end when we have some clarity on our numbers. 1278 02:46:01,000 --> 02:46:08,000 And maybe thinking about rather than lump sum, kind of portioning things out over a little longer time. 1279 02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:14,000 I think there's some interesting ways that we could potentially handle that. I know we have some uncertainty here. 1280 02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:23,000 So how do we do this in a responsible way, but also investing in kind of the future of our community here on this front. 1281 02:46:23,000 --> 02:46:27,000 So I will leave it there for now and see what my colleagues have to say. 1282 02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:29,000 Thank you. 1283 02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:35,000 I definitely appreciate as we keep talking about where we're at right now with the budget. 1284 02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:38,000 The user fees and as far as the levels where they're at. 1285 02:46:38,000 --> 02:46:45,000 One thing that I definitely heard though was we're able to couple this together with the scholarship fees and the caps though money. 1286 02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:52,000 And so I just want to think about, do we have to structure our fees differently if we didn't have that additional funding. 1287 02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:59,000 And so as we talk to the consultants and understanding what is done in other markets, I know it's part of the process. 1288 02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:03,000 I would be really interested in hearing that because of something. 1289 02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:07,000 I mean as we saw what happened to cap so recently in this county. 1290 02:47:07,000 --> 02:47:14,000 You know they lost some funding and so if that continued to happen or federal continues to take money, 1291 02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:17,000 then we won't have the money that we think we do to make this work. 1292 02:47:17,000 --> 02:47:20,000 So as far as the cost recovery then is could be a concern. 1293 02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:22,000 So that's kind of one of the things. 1294 02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:32,000 The other part is I know that parking rates are not a part of this and it shouldn't be an I understand that. 1295 02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:36,000 But I do see a disproportionate. 1296 02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:49,000 Recovery for lack of a better word when it comes to parking at Toro and Marsh and parking at our cultural arts district parking structure, which I know that you're working on it right now city manager but I just want to make sure that is. 1297 02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:52,000 I just thought about it because we're asking. 1298 02:47:52,000 --> 02:47:54,000 Evie. 1299 02:47:54,000 --> 02:47:59,000 Driver is to pay different different cost for their recovery in a sense and well we're very excited. 1300 02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:02,000 There's another place that they can park in charge. 1301 02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:05,000 It's a different different price. 1302 02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:08,000 I wonder almost with the. 1303 02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:11,000 Outreach is a lot of our conversation. 1304 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:17,000 Maybe as we talk about our different CIP projects that we could talk about also. 1305 02:48:17,000 --> 02:48:22,000 What is happening with pedestrians so as there can see that outcome as well. 1306 02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:31,000 So when we see our money and what it's being set for in the community it is what's being spent for all different forms of transportation or mobility. 1307 02:48:31,000 --> 02:48:35,000 I know that I'll reach cost money and that's why I mentioned it. 1308 02:48:35,000 --> 02:48:39,000 And then I know that the. 1309 02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:43,000 Fire station five is interim. 1310 02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:49,000 And eventually permanent but I also am super concerned about the construction costs and where that goes so. 1311 02:48:49,000 --> 02:48:54,000 I'm kind of in the Council of Merchorsmen if we need to save some to do that. 1312 02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:56,000 That we're thinking about that. 1313 02:48:56,000 --> 02:49:03,000 I know that it's hard when you have money sitting there and you want to spend it on something else but as we look at. 1314 02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:13,000 I think that's not a bad idea. 1315 02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:19,000 I'm similar to that we talked you mentioned property management with multiple addresses. 1316 02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:23,000 For business licenses just wanting to see what other. 1317 02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:29,000 Cities do for their business licenses around the user fees because we also have. 1318 02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:36,000 Not just individuals that own multiple properties but we also have trusts and so what does that look like. 1319 02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:41,000 Is that the similar is property management that's similar as a individual owner. 1320 02:49:41,000 --> 02:49:48,000 How do we just really have a good handle on what's available in the 23,000 doors in our community. 1321 02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:52,000 That's what behind the doors is not what I'm asking. 1322 02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:56,000 So I think those are oh and then as far as broad street. 1323 02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:59,000 I think you know with the. 1324 02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:10,000 Paving project if it makes sense to do some of the quick build hey whatever we can do I think that's something we've talked about over and over is when a quick build makes sense for safety whether it's for. 1325 02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:14,000 Any form of mobility I think I'm I'm always for that. 1326 02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:19,000 So with that I think I've answered some of the questions for the user fees I'm in. 1327 02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:22,000 I'm in favor of this draft. 1328 02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:23,000 Can you imagine. 1329 02:50:23,000 --> 02:50:29,000 Very thankful for the hard work and Councilman Boswell your next. 1330 02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:32,000 Thank you just add a few things. 1331 02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:37,000 First I think staff for making this job a lot easier every first of all. 1332 02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:46,000 The forecast from last year, we're pretty dead on and so when we made a bunch of tough decisions last year and wandered. 1333 02:50:46,000 --> 02:50:50,000 You know where would we find ourselves a year from now what kind of tough decisions might we have to make in terms of Possibly cutting programs. 1334 02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:55,280 of possibly cutting programs, but we didn't have to do that because we had good budget estimates 1335 02:50:55,280 --> 02:51:03,120 and we've delivered on them. So thanks for that. And then you know the other really 1336 02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:09,200 important thing out of this budget and you know for me this is my first financial plan so I'm now 1337 02:51:09,200 --> 02:51:14,480 I'm really seeing the value of putting a lot of work into that financial plan for two years 1338 02:51:14,960 --> 02:51:20,640 is certainly makes the second budget year much easier to deal with. But I really appreciate that 1339 02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:25,280 that work plan that we put together for the major city goals which has like I don't know 1340 02:51:25,280 --> 02:51:29,280 80 items on it or some crazy number of items maybe it's more it's maybe no the number 1341 02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:34,160 by any chance any any health. So trivia question how many items are actually on there. 1342 02:51:34,160 --> 02:51:42,960 There's a lot of items on that major city goals work plan that we've not had to modify we've not had 1343 02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:50,640 to say we can't do some of those programs. So it's it's very satisfying to be here and know 1344 02:51:50,640 --> 02:51:56,480 that we can continue on this work plan that we put together last year put so much effort into and really 1345 02:51:56,480 --> 02:52:02,000 reflects and tremendous amount of community input we can continue to deliver on that commitment to the 1346 02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:08,400 community this year. So thanks for all of that. I'll be supporting the budget as as presented 1347 02:52:08,480 --> 02:52:19,360 and same for also supporting the direction that is recommended for the user fee study. 1348 02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:28,400 Thank you. I also want to say that going back to when we asked for trade-offs in this last year we've really 1349 02:52:28,400 --> 02:52:32,240 seen a real clear reality around the trade-offs that we asked for and I just want to thanks 1350 02:52:32,240 --> 02:52:37,120 staff for that because as people bring us things we're like we really want to do that too and we 1351 02:52:37,120 --> 02:52:42,720 realize we can't and by saying sticking with those work plans that's why we're here today. So thank you 1352 02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:49,680 for that too. Council Member Marks. Thank you. Well I appreciate all the comments. I get to go last so 1353 02:52:49,680 --> 02:52:59,120 now I appreciate all the comments and my colleagues. I do want to acknowledge the importance 1354 02:52:59,120 --> 02:53:10,080 of continuing to be as responsible as we can in terms of our personal ability. Back in the day 1355 02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:16,000 I remember there was a purse holiday. There was a time where purse said we're not going to charge 1356 02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:24,720 the cities anything because we made so much money and I said no we we still have to keep making 1357 02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:32,320 the payments. I lost. I lost that. It's one of those things where it's like yeah I was right but 1358 02:53:32,320 --> 02:53:42,160 anyway one of the reasons I was right but hey you know but so in the past I'm saying the deep dark 1359 02:53:42,160 --> 02:53:48,160 dim distant past we have been less responsible and I want to acknowledge although they're not here 1360 02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:58,400 right now but the role of residents who are concerned about our purse liability in terms of just 1361 02:53:58,400 --> 02:54:08,400 keeping it on the on the radar screen and it's really hard because it's so you know like they say moving 1362 02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:15,920 the goal posts depending you know we keep paying it's not like alone where you can actually say oh 1363 02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:20,480 good you know we could just make an extra payment now and then and then the interest rate will go down it's 1364 02:54:20,480 --> 02:54:29,200 not like that so anyway I feel like we're on the good course with the purse liability. In terms of the 1365 02:54:29,200 --> 02:54:40,160 overall financial picture I do think that one thing we haven't talked about is actually if the city 1366 02:54:40,160 --> 02:54:46,160 would look in its assets not just from the point of accumulating more and more assets but also from 1367 02:54:46,160 --> 02:54:52,000 the point of view is there any way we can realize some of those assets and I give you an example of that 1368 02:54:52,000 --> 02:55:03,440 parking structure parking lot on Iguera and Toro next to Petra. I was very uncomfortable with us buying it 1369 02:55:03,440 --> 02:55:10,320 in the first place and I understand that you know it's providing more places for people to park but 1370 02:55:10,320 --> 02:55:26,800 do we really need to own that and does the parking fund really need to oh the general fund money and so that 1371 02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:34,240 puts a pressure on the parking fund and you know I'd rather sell just me personally I'd rather sell that 1372 02:55:34,240 --> 02:55:41,520 lot on Iguera and put the money into the fire station which we really need so it's just the it's just the 1373 02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:50,240 question in general I do support the item in front of us tonight but just we're looking down the road you know 1374 02:55:50,240 --> 02:55:57,360 are there are there any ask do we really need to own as much as we do probably yes for most of it but 1375 02:55:57,360 --> 02:56:06,640 there might be some ways that we can actually realize some money from what we own. I wanted to 1376 02:56:08,720 --> 02:56:17,840 say that I appreciate all the concern about what's happening at Lawson and or Lawton and 1377 02:56:18,800 --> 02:56:26,800 Funston in terms of the need for traffic calming we could put up signs that say no 1378 02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:33,200 cut through traffic which we have on Johnson but that's not that there's not any signage like that there 1379 02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:44,960 right now but it's pretty obvious also with what people were talking about in terms of King Street 1380 02:56:45,920 --> 02:56:54,080 and South Street that that whole corridor is very problematic and I think that we need to look at it 1381 02:56:55,520 --> 02:57:04,880 as a as a corridor and do we can to help the neighborhood really feel as safe as possible. 1382 02:57:04,880 --> 02:57:18,560 I think I really support the idea of looking at future deficits and trying to 1383 02:57:20,640 --> 02:57:29,600 be as responsible and thrifties we can be at the same time looking for opportunities in a grants or 1384 02:57:29,600 --> 02:57:34,240 one opportunity one kind of opportunity but there are other opportunities that are out there 1385 02:57:34,800 --> 02:57:44,960 I appreciate the testimony from Sloma and really support what the city manager was saying 1386 02:57:44,960 --> 02:57:53,440 is let's look at if we have an allocated one balance at the end of the whole budget cycle and see 1387 02:57:54,640 --> 02:58:04,000 what we might be able to afford. In terms of the user free I am 1388 02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:12,640 concerned about inadvertently discouraging people from using those chargers in our most street garage 1389 02:58:12,640 --> 02:58:18,800 there are a lot of them empty I'm over there a lot because of post offices so you know I see 1390 02:58:18,800 --> 02:58:25,040 they're empty and I know people are working during the day they could be charging their their cars 1391 02:58:25,760 --> 02:58:31,520 and I think that I've done a little bit of research I think that other 1392 02:58:32,880 --> 02:58:43,680 cities vastly reduce the parking fee for electric charger for cars that are actually charging 1393 02:58:44,640 --> 02:58:49,840 they also though limit the amount of time that you can charge and then you have to move your car so 1394 02:58:49,840 --> 02:58:56,640 it's a big complicated thing but I think we need to take that seriously because we have our sustainability 1395 02:58:56,640 --> 02:59:03,040 in climate action goals at the same time we're making it like financially and possible for 1396 02:59:03,040 --> 02:59:13,760 people to actually use the facilities that we built in them to use so let me just see that 1397 02:59:13,760 --> 02:59:23,600 and I do want to thank staff the entire staff for being so taking such a fine-grained approach to 1398 02:59:25,840 --> 02:59:34,320 you know not just well to the estimates of inflation for example you know asking people for the exact 1399 02:59:35,360 --> 02:59:41,520 dollar amounts that it incurred rather than just blanket we is making assumption of so much for the 1400 02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:49,280 inflation so I really appreciate this effort and I think we're basically in good shape so I'll 1401 02:59:49,280 --> 02:59:59,040 stop right there nice thank you I think there was one that you said okay so with King Court I know 1402 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,000 A very thorough email sent by Luke Schwarz regarding King Court. It sounded as though there was a potential in a closer future than there was before to have an actual traffic signal built after the pedestrian beacon. Can you just, you can just take your head and say yes or if you want to add any two cents to that. You want to add some two cents. That way the people with her watching YouTube can hear. 1403 03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:39,000 Yes, so you're correct. The current project as designed added elements to the project that allowed for a full signalized intersection. 1404 03:00:39,000 --> 03:00:58,000 We pushed pause on that waiting for vehicle preemption from emergency services. And so we have recently connected with our emergency services team with our new fire chief and we have found that that might be a sooner option. 1405 03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:05,000 For us to look into the project as design can still move forward with construction. 1406 03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:13,000 So there's no need to pause on that, but we may come back to council for a future discussion just to make sure that we have clarification right now. 1407 03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:21,000 The project is on hold with construction just do to some PG&E and timing issues with purchasing of the equipment. 1408 03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:28,000 So we have a little bit of time to come back to council and just make sure we have that clarification. 1409 03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:36,000 But it looks like we do have a path forward and we can get back some communication to the community and to council. 1410 03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:40,000 Wonderful news. Thank you so much city manager. 1411 03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:50,000 Thank you. I realized this was an a topic that I wanted to moment to clarify as well because I heard our prior comments and thought wait. 1412 03:01:50,000 --> 03:01:58,000 Okay, so we're putting the pedestrian beacon on hold until we come back to talk about a signalized project. 1413 03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:07,000 And as you're shaking your head that answers incorrect, but I just want to make sure for I think both myself and anybody else who may be listening or still here. 1414 03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:11,000 We intend to do is to move forward with the beacon project. 1415 03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:23,000 At the same time, we will we will be evaluating moving forward on a next step, a next phase for that same intersection that will be fully signalized. 1416 03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:35,000 We may come back to council just to make sure everybody's clear on the same page, but people will see a project go forward that puts a beacon up that is the same style as what's on broad street. 1417 03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:41,000 While we continue working on a full signal. Okay, I'm seeing a face that maybe that's not correct. 1418 03:02:41,000 --> 03:02:43,000 Let's yeah. 1419 03:02:43,000 --> 03:03:04,000 I guess both of those things are true, but the pedestrian the full signalized intersection might just because of the timing of you know having to wait on PG&E and the equipment might allow for us actually to install the full signalized intersection and not actually. 1420 03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:08,000 Construct the hybrid beacon. 1421 03:03:08,000 --> 03:03:19,000 Just because of that timing. So we will move forward with the current construction project that just because it's on pause right now and we already have that. 1422 03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:28,000 The way that that project is designed is about 90 per 90% of that would allow for a future signalized intersection. 1423 03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:35,000 There's only minor elements that we would have to change to turn into a full signalized intersection. 1424 03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:40,000 So it's basically a change order to the project that would get us there. 1425 03:03:40,000 --> 03:03:47,000 So that's the only portion that we would bring back to council and just make sure that we're clear on a path moving forward. 1426 03:03:47,000 --> 03:04:00,000 Do a little bit of community outreach. It's the timing of that that is the question. I do not believe that the community would see the pedestrian hybrid beacon without a full intersection. 1427 03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:03,000 We would come back to council to get that. 1428 03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:20,000 Okay, that helps me certainly and I think it's more of a it's kind of a horse race issue based on timing of components for the original projects which was the beacon. 1429 03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:30,000 Since we're delayed on some of those pieces that we can't really control we're going to take that time to try to bring back something that's actually the full scale intersection. 1430 03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:35,000 Thank you for that clarification because we're talking about the budget what we're spending where. 1431 03:04:35,000 --> 03:04:46,000 I think that was the kind of the competition earlier was how do we bring this back to the conversation of the budget so that's why I brought it up and thought it was just have some clarification would be good. 1432 03:04:46,000 --> 03:04:49,000 Council member Shoresman. 1433 03:04:49,000 --> 03:04:58,000 Thanks. Yeah, I want to follow up on the budget piece because my understanding is that at least most of the beacon is granted. 1434 03:04:58,000 --> 03:05:05,000 Would there be additional expense or cost to going forward with the full. 1435 03:05:05,000 --> 03:05:12,000 Signalized intersection that we haven't contemplated in our existing budget that we're looking at. 1436 03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:23,000 Not that I know of right now, but we can come back to council and if there is an existing class we can look at bringing that back and potentially using completed projects or another funding method. 1437 03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:38,000 The most important thing is that we do have a grant deadline of using those funds and so that's why we want to keep moving forward with the project and the grant would allow a full signalized beacon as well as the hybrid it's not specifically for the. 1438 03:05:38,000 --> 03:05:43,000 Begin correct yes, okay that's important. Thank you. 1439 03:05:43,000 --> 03:05:58,000 Vice Mayor. Thank you. Do we have an updated kind of estimated timeline for when we would see either the beacon or the signalized intersection completed with the delay that's currently in place. 1440 03:05:58,000 --> 03:06:03,000 Thank you. 1441 03:06:03,000 --> 03:06:14,000 Yeah, as Matt on said, the contracts currently on hold for PG&E, we're also waiting on material delivery for the this signal equipment as well as the mass farms. 1442 03:06:14,000 --> 03:06:22,000 I think the current estimated completion date is September late September for the project the the pedestrian hybrid project. 1443 03:06:22,000 --> 03:06:26,000 As currently designed we still as of today we're talking about. 1444 03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:35,000 The other elements needed to convert to a signal those are minor is my understanding, but there will likely be a schedule impact. 1445 03:06:35,000 --> 03:06:41,000 Right now, I don't I haven't heard any concerns about completing the project within the grant window. 1446 03:06:41,000 --> 03:06:51,000 Yeah, I think the last time we got an update it was kind of early September right after the beginning of school, but glad to hear that we're still on track for that estimate. 1447 03:06:51,000 --> 03:06:54,000 Thank you. 1448 03:06:54,000 --> 03:06:56,000 Thank you so much. 1449 03:06:56,000 --> 03:07:04,000 Well, with that, can I get a motion to adopt a draft resolution vice mayor. 1450 03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:09,000 Yeah, do we want to put up the recommendations. 1451 03:07:12,000 --> 03:07:24,000 Yeah, move approval of the recommendations is drafted by staff here and leave there. 1452 03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:26,000 Thank you, council members. 1453 03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:29,000 I'll second that. 1454 03:07:29,000 --> 03:07:32,000 Thank you, City Clerk. Can we have roll call. 1455 03:07:32,000 --> 03:07:34,000 Vice Mayor Francis. 1456 03:07:42,000 --> 03:07:47,000 Council members for me. 1457 03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:49,000 Yes. 1458 03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:52,000 Council member Baswell. 1459 03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:53,000 Yes. 1460 03:07:53,000 --> 03:07:54,000 Council member marks. 1461 03:07:54,000 --> 03:07:55,000 Yes. 1462 03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:56,000 Mayor Stewart. 1463 03:07:56,000 --> 03:07:58,000 Yes, and the motion passes five zero. 1464 03:07:58,000 --> 03:08:04,000 Thank you so much for this conversation and look forward to the future changes. 1465 03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:21,000 With that, I will. 1466 03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:30,000 Get us ready to move on to the next and almost final topic, which is with deputy city clerk managed. 1467 03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:32,000 I'm sorry, deputy city manager. 1468 03:08:32,000 --> 03:08:40,000 Greg Herman and deputy city clerk Sarah armus armus to receive a presentation on the feasibility of advisory body. 1469 03:08:40,000 --> 03:08:45,000 Competition or compensation, wow. 1470 03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:48,000 No problem. 1471 03:08:48,000 --> 03:08:50,000 Okay. 1472 03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:52,000 Thank you, Mayor and council members. 1473 03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:55,000 We're happy to be here tonight for this item. 1474 03:08:55,000 --> 03:09:02,000 This, of course, is a follow up to a recommendation from the council compensation committee related to advisory body compensation. 1475 03:09:02,000 --> 03:09:07,000 We'll go through all the details of the analysis that we did related to advisory body member compensation. 1476 03:09:07,000 --> 03:09:17,000 I do just want to take a moment before we do that to acknowledge a support of our partner departments for a finance and human resources and pulling together all of that information and also to our deputy city clerk Sarah armus. 1477 03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:19,000 We took the lead on pulling all of this together. 1478 03:09:19,000 --> 03:09:22,000 I'll be providing the majority of the presentation. 1479 03:09:22,000 --> 03:09:34,000 I think we recognize that the recommendation that we're putting forward is not direct compensation to advisory body members as envisioned in some of the work around the feasibility of looking at a 25 dollar per meeting level of compensation. 1480 03:09:34,000 --> 03:09:54,000 But I think the core principle that was trying to be addressed with a 25 dollar compensation was to offset costs that folks may incur by nature of participating on an advisory body and an interest in wanting to limit or reduce where we can out of pocket spending that people would need to make to just be there and participate in that process. 1481 03:09:54,000 --> 03:10:02,000 So we put forward the recommendation that we think is most feasible in terms of being able to do that and for tonight's presentation I'll hand it over to Sarah. 1482 03:10:03,000 --> 03:10:11,000 Thank you to be a city manager. Again, my name is Sarah armus deputy city clerk within the clerk's office under administration department. 1483 03:10:11,000 --> 03:10:13,000 Good evening. Mayor members of council. 1484 03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:20,000 I will be presenting a brief analysis on the impacts of a 25 dollar per meeting compensation program. 1485 03:10:20,000 --> 03:10:31,000 The study was conducted based on review of the data provided for council compensation committee as well as an analysis of the current process for our advisory bodies who are compensated planning commission and architectural recognition. 1486 03:10:32,000 --> 03:10:46,000 I'll also briefly touch on the three alternate methods that we explored with the final method being our recommendation to minimize costs of advisory body participation with only minor administrative impacts. 1487 03:10:46,000 --> 03:10:57,000 Staff's recommendation tonight is before you hear on the screen receiving the report on the feasibility of implement things such a program adopting a draft resolution amending the advisory body handbook to add a parking and food budget section. 1488 03:10:57,000 --> 03:11:05,000 To continue the current system of monetary compensation only for planning commission and architectural commission members. 1489 03:11:05,000 --> 03:11:10,000 So we'll briefly look back as to how the idea of a 25 dollar meeting program was decided. 1490 03:11:10,000 --> 03:11:18,000 At the May 21st, 2025 city council meeting council opted to form a council compensation committee in lieu of a standard CPI increase. 1491 03:11:18,000 --> 03:11:32,000 The question is part of the council's bot annual review of mayor and council member compensation packages review planning commission and architectural review commission compensation has been done in conjunction with mayor and council compensation since 2001. 1492 03:11:32,000 --> 03:11:45,000 When council chose to form the compensation committee, they directed the committee to also look at the additional city advisory bodies to see if compensation would be warranted based on their time and work commitments for their respective committees. 1493 03:11:45,000 --> 03:11:55,000 The committee met monthly from September through December of last year reviewing data provided by the clerk's office and human resources that would assist them informing a recommendation to the city council. 1494 03:11:55,000 --> 03:12:02,000 At the January 13th, 2020 city council meeting council approve the committee's recommendations is following. 1495 03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:12,000 Increased salary and additional funding for mayor and council members no change to the compensation for planning commission and architectural review commission and direction to staff to. 1496 03:12:12,000 --> 03:12:21,000 Explore the feasibility of an opt-in pilot program to provide $25 per meeting for all city advisory bodies quite a mouthful. 1497 03:12:21,000 --> 03:12:31,000 Staff began with reviewing the data provided to the council company council the council compensation committee to gauge community member interest in compensation. 1498 03:12:31,000 --> 03:12:36,000 Two surveys related to advisory body compensation were distributed in October of 2025. 1499 03:12:36,000 --> 03:12:46,000 The first re-reviewed was distributed to advisory body members currently serving and advisory body members who had previously served up to six years ago from 2025. 1500 03:12:46,000 --> 03:12:54,000 The recipients were asked various questions regarding time commitment and whether the compensation they received or didn't receive was appropriate. 1501 03:12:54,000 --> 03:13:04,000 In the table before you, you see the results of the question, do you feel the current stipend or lack of stipend is appropriate for the body that you serve or served on. 1502 03:13:04,000 --> 03:13:13,000 Of the 53 responses roughly 41% of the respondents ranked the current compensation mostly appropriate for the role ranking seven to 10. 1503 03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:18,000 The common themes of these responses were the importance of advisory body participation being voluntary. 1504 03:13:18,000 --> 03:13:27,000 The small amount of meetings actually being attended and the difficulty in finding a common dollar amount will be fair across all the various committees and commissions. 1505 03:13:27,000 --> 03:13:33,000 23% of the respondents ranking zero to three felt that their current compensation was inappropriate. 1506 03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:41,000 Common themes for these responses stated that compensation could provide offset to cost barriers to serve as an incentive to participate. 1507 03:13:42,000 --> 03:13:49,000 Or an incentive to participate as participation could potentially be a large-time commitment for some. 1508 03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:56,000 The others survey created to assist the Council Compensation Committee was posted on the Open City Hall Forum available on the slow city website. 1509 03:13:56,000 --> 03:14:01,000 City new subscribers were notified that could fill out a brief survey consisting of three questions. 1510 03:14:01,000 --> 03:14:10,000 Whether they would consider or have considered applying to an advisory body if compensation would influence their decision to apply and if there are any barriers preventing community members from applying. 1511 03:14:10,000 --> 03:14:16,000 Staff reviewed responses to the second question and categorize them into four varying levels of influence. 1512 03:14:16,000 --> 03:14:23,000 As you see on the table before you, there was an almost even number of responses that stated compensation had a major influence or no influence at all. 1513 03:14:23,000 --> 03:14:28,000 A difference of 104 for no influence and 102 for major influence. 1514 03:14:28,000 --> 03:14:34,000 Again, common themes were discovered to be time commitment demands and monetary incentives to participate. 1515 03:14:34,000 --> 03:14:42,000 Usually reference in the major influence responses versus the importance of volunteers on the no influence responses. 1516 03:14:42,000 --> 03:14:52,000 In response to the question on barriers, the issues of parking, child care costs, food and time commitment were repeatedly mentioned. 1517 03:14:52,000 --> 03:15:00,000 After analyzing the survey data, staff began to assess the different ways that city would begin to compensate 70 additional advisory body. 1518 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:13,000 Members, the clerk's office and collaboration with human resources and finance reviewed the current method of compensation for planning commission, architectural view commission, what we'll refer to moving board as the employee style method. 1519 03:15:13,000 --> 03:15:23,000 In addition to the employee style method, three alternate methods were reviewed the independent contractor or vendor method, the gift card method, and a food and parking budget option. 1520 03:15:23,000 --> 03:15:27,000 And now briefly explain the differences between the four. 1521 03:15:27,000 --> 03:15:42,000 So, so the employee style method, so again, current process, planning commission and architectural view commission are paid on a quarterly basis with the final distribution amount being taxed. 1522 03:15:42,000 --> 03:15:55,000 The government finance estimated that if the remaining advisory bodies were to be compensated at $25 per meeting under this model, they're take home amount for one meeting attended would be roughly $19 in one cent after taxes. 1523 03:15:55,000 --> 03:16:00,000 We have various bodies that meet at different schedules. 1524 03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:12,000 So some of our bodies are meeting regularly on a monthly basis, others need on more of a buy monthly basis, so we have like active transportation committee and mass transportation committee that meet every other month. 1525 03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:16,000 And then we do have a few that are meeting on an as needed basis. 1526 03:16:16,000 --> 03:16:23,000 So obviously, these are all going to be receiving different amounts at each fiscal quarter. 1527 03:16:24,000 --> 03:16:38,000 The estimated budget needed to compensate all of these bodies and this is just for the monetary compensation piece is estimated to be about $14,000 to $250,000 to $14,250, sorry, money numbers. 1528 03:16:38,000 --> 03:16:47,000 So as that number was stated in the council competition committee recommendations previously when discussing this. 1529 03:16:47,000 --> 03:16:53,000 Looking back at the original direction from council on the opt-in or opt-out piece of compensating bodies. 1530 03:16:53,000 --> 03:16:59,000 I do want to highlight that although it was included in the independent contractor method section of the report. 1531 03:16:59,000 --> 03:17:09,000 This does apply to this employee cell method classification that we can give the advisory body members in opt-in or opt-out option. 1532 03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:14,000 So if they don't want to receive compensation and main voluntary, we can do that. 1533 03:17:14,000 --> 03:17:17,000 However, we can't change the positions classification. 1534 03:17:17,000 --> 03:17:30,000 So we can't re-classify them as employees essentially like they can not take payment, but they would still be considered employees and help to the same standards which I'll go over. 1535 03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:40,000 The impact on administrative workbook for staff and additional requirements for the advisory body members themselves were found to be even more significant that the financial cost alone. 1536 03:17:40,000 --> 03:17:50,000 So summarized in the table before you are some of the impacts staff for CB necessary to ensure proper compensation and compliance with city employee requirements as they stand. 1537 03:17:50,000 --> 03:18:01,000 So new requirements for these advisory body members under this model would include live scan services and i9 verification upon appointment to ensure we are putting their information in our payroll system correctly. 1538 03:18:01,000 --> 03:18:10,000 As employees, they would be required to partake in applicable state and city trainings such as harassment and discrimination and workplace violence. 1539 03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:21,000 This would be in addition to some of the other requirements we already asked if some of our advisory body members such as completion of conflict of interest statements by annual ethics training and regular onboarding tasks. 1540 03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:25,000 Several impacts to our current payroll system are also noted. 1541 03:18:25,000 --> 03:18:33,000 The cost of a license to add 70 members into our payroll system is around $30,000 annually. 1542 03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:44,000 Currently there is a single administrative assistant in the community development department who inputs meeting attendance for planning commission and architectural review commission be a time cards in the payroll system. 1543 03:18:44,000 --> 03:18:51,000 Seeing as there's multiple departments who staff these various committees and commissions depend on their preview. 1544 03:18:51,000 --> 03:18:59,000 Review and refinement of our current procedures with most likely be necessary to ensure consistency and understanding of accurate time card entry. 1545 03:18:59,000 --> 03:19:01,000 Across the agency. 1546 03:19:01,000 --> 03:19:09,000 Formal training would need to take place to ensure staff and administration, parks and recreation and public works understand the process of deadlines. 1547 03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:13,000 So finance can review time cards and distribute page x properly. 1548 03:19:13,000 --> 03:19:21,000 Human resources in the clerk's office would also need to increase follow up with new advisory body members to ensure proper compliance upon appointment. 1549 03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:33,000 All those difficult to kind of quantify how much additional staffing is needed based on our analysis of the current existing process and what we require to make sure we have the administrative bandwidth to take on all these new members. 1550 03:19:33,000 --> 03:19:38,000 Human resources estimated at least a .5 FTE administrative assistant position. 1551 03:19:38,000 --> 03:19:46,000 Well finance estimates periodically others within the department might need to be pulled from their current workload to assist payroll staff. 1552 03:19:46,000 --> 03:19:54,000 All these impacts into account staff isn't recommending moving forward with the employee style method at this time. 1553 03:19:54,000 --> 03:19:57,000 Moving on to the independent contractor vendor method. 1554 03:19:57,000 --> 03:20:02,000 This was discovered early on in our analysis is a popular method for other cities within the state. 1555 03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:09,000 This method essentially distributes compensation to advise your bodies without payroll tax upholding as if it were for a service rendered. 1556 03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:17,000 Although 25 dollars would be the initial take home amount this was still need to be reported as taxable income on their personal taxes. 1557 03:20:17,000 --> 03:20:30,000 When we were setting the legality of this method it was determined that the duties responsibilities of advisory body members don't necessarily fit under an independent contractor method style of service. 1558 03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:39,000 Compensating these members such could position the city to be out of compliance with federal and state labor laws as we're potentially. 1559 03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:43,000 Looking at them doing. 1560 03:20:43,000 --> 03:20:49,000 A little bit more than just what an independent contractor would essentially be doing for a city. 1561 03:20:49,000 --> 03:20:59,000 So with that again or reminder that they can't necessarily opt in or out of the classification of what they're working as they can opt out of payment but not what the requirements would be. 1562 03:20:59,000 --> 03:21:03,000 So again, we're not we're recommending moving forward with this method. 1563 03:21:03,000 --> 03:21:12,000 Providing get cards was also method briefly explored as the model was suggested during one of the deliberations by the council compensation committee. 1564 03:21:12,000 --> 03:21:19,000 It's not a method that's currently being used by any agency to regularly compensate their advisory bodies members. 1565 03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:37,000 Staff of Dean this is an insufficient substitution for regular compensation as it could still potentially require members to report these get cards as income tax if distributed on a regular basis for services rendered to the organization so again deemed invisible and not recommended. 1566 03:21:37,000 --> 03:21:46,000 The last method explored by staff is the creation of a food and parking budget to be used for all advisory members for their meetings. 1567 03:21:46,000 --> 03:21:54,000 As previously mentioned in the survey results parking and food were meant to were noted regularly as potential barriers for community members to participate. 1568 03:21:54,000 --> 03:22:04,000 Majority of the meetings began at five to five 30 so it doesn't allow those working to have much in time in between the end of their work day in the beginning of their meeting. 1569 03:22:04,000 --> 03:22:14,000 So staff proposed that providing increased three hour parking validations and a snack budget could alleviate some of the issues for those who struggle to find parking in the city hall back. 1570 03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:18,000 Or for those who don't have enough time for full meal before the meeting starts. 1571 03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:25,000 I just want to note two things about this proposal that we're not recommending full meal orders to be placed prior to these meetings. 1572 03:22:25,000 --> 03:22:33,000 We don't really have a standard process for regular full meal orders that's cost effective or consistent. 1573 03:22:33,000 --> 03:22:41,000 And although we can provide these parking validations also like to know that we aren't guaranteeing parking spaces from these parking facilities. 1574 03:22:41,000 --> 03:22:52,000 So after assessing the cost of twenty five dollars per advisory body member for food and a three hour parking validation provided each meeting per their regular meeting schedule. 1575 03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:57,000 It wouldn't total cost three thousand four hundred seventy dollars annually. 1576 03:22:57,000 --> 03:23:03,000 So parking validation and snack drinks slash drink orders would be handled by the clerks office to ensure both are fully stocked. 1577 03:23:03,000 --> 03:23:09,000 And of course, these would be available but always optional for members to participate in. 1578 03:23:09,000 --> 03:23:18,000 So we are recommending the food and parking budget mostly because all those standard monitoring compensation was noted as potentially being an offset to barrier. 1579 03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:25,000 These are tangible benefits that we're providing to kind of get ahead of that and offset these costs of participation. 1580 03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:33,000 And as mentioned by the committee members without creating a disproportionate administrative burden on staff. 1581 03:23:33,000 --> 03:23:35,000 So this is the end of my presentation. 1582 03:23:35,000 --> 03:23:46,000 We have our three recommendations here and again I'd like to echo my thanks to human resources finance attorney's office and various other staff within the organization who discuss this in depth with me. 1583 03:23:46,000 --> 03:23:49,000 So available for any questions. 1584 03:23:49,000 --> 03:23:59,000 Thank you appreciate that I know as a extra kind of work action after the compensation committees we appreciate that vice mayor. 1585 03:23:59,000 --> 03:24:04,000 Yeah, thank you for such a fantastic presentation just a couple of quick questions. 1586 03:24:04,000 --> 03:24:18,000 So under if you could go into a little bit more detail on the kind of pitfalls of the the gift card method and if we have an understanding with the threshold is for when you have to report income tax with gift cards. 1587 03:24:18,000 --> 03:24:20,000 Thank you for the question. 1588 03:24:20,000 --> 03:24:25,000 I might lean on a little bit of help here from Greg but Mr. Herman. 1589 03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:32,000 We when discussing this as a potential method for for compensating them regularly. 1590 03:24:32,000 --> 03:24:42,000 I know that we discussed that dollar amount to that threshold that needed that would essentially be reportable and it just didn't. 1591 03:24:42,000 --> 03:24:52,000 With the way that these advisory bodies are meeting currently it just is hard to predict how often they're going to me at a certain point you know right now we actually are. 1592 03:24:52,000 --> 03:25:04,000 We're not many of them are meeting her the regular meeting schedule but that could always change we could call for these advice bodies to meet more than the regular meeting schedule in the future it's just kind of hard to determine. 1593 03:25:04,000 --> 03:25:09,000 I don't know if you have anything to add. 1594 03:25:10,000 --> 03:25:24,000 I think the I think the the tester threshold is that is it being used in place of regular compensation and so I don't know that we have a specific. 1595 03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:38,000 Line that that crosses but if if we are clearly trying to compensate someone via a gift card in in lieu of what we would otherwise be doing for regular compensation I think that's where we clearly get into the legal issues associated with it. 1596 03:25:38,000 --> 03:25:56,000 I don't know if you have a question of potentially doing it as not a like meeting permitting type of compensation but maybe like an annual sort of thank you thinking maybe in line with kind of when we do the by local program and have it be you know local business gift cards kind of. 1597 03:25:56,000 --> 03:26:07,000 Get people that evening out as a thank you to for their service and have it be a one time annually or by annually or something like that. 1598 03:26:07,000 --> 03:26:23,000 I think that could be an option that we could look at more if we're seeing this is sort of like a gift to acknowledge participation and whether or not that would allow us to steer clear of some of those laws but I don't know that I have a specific answer on that unless any of my colleagues. 1599 03:26:23,000 --> 03:26:26,000 Feel like they're clear on that at this moment. 1600 03:26:26,000 --> 03:26:30,000 Okay, I'll leave it there then. Thank you. 1601 03:26:30,000 --> 03:26:32,000 Thank you. I asked that same question before. 1602 03:26:32,000 --> 03:26:34,000 Council Member Shoresman. 1603 03:26:34,000 --> 03:26:43,000 Thanks. Yeah, just to kind of piggyback on that a little bit I feel like the purpose of this discussion initially was to try and help. 1604 03:26:43,000 --> 03:26:57,000 Encourage folks who couldn't afford to essentially be on an advisory body or increased diversity so that feels a little bit it feels like it's changing the purpose a little bit but anyway. 1605 03:26:58,000 --> 03:27:05,000 The question that I was going to ask is more related to the data and I'm guessing that you won't be able to answer this but I'm going to try it anyway. 1606 03:27:05,000 --> 03:27:12,000 I think it's kind of fascinating that in the table you showed that the compensation. 1607 03:27:12,000 --> 03:27:24,000 Whether or not it was a major influence or no influence was yeah, I think that's just fascinating that about the same number of people think that the compensation is either a major influence in them. 1608 03:27:24,000 --> 03:27:43,000 They're wanting to participate or it's like no influence at all and I'm just curious if you had the ability to drill down on the folks that answered in those two ways and see if there were any commonalities between the people that thought that a major it would majorly influence their. 1609 03:27:43,000 --> 03:27:48,000 Their interest in participating versus those who had no interest in participating. 1610 03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:51,000 Yeah, actually I can answer that question. 1611 03:27:51,000 --> 03:28:06,000 I did kind of you know assess the two responses together and there wasn't a clear correlation between the people that were ranking it as a major influence and also saying that the barriers were you know x y and z. 1612 03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:16,000 It would it would vary some would say that like it is a major influence and it cost a lot to have someone watch my kid for you know an x three amount of hours. 1613 03:28:16,000 --> 03:28:26,000 But sometimes they say would be a major influence and then they would say and I don't really have any barriers that's preventing me for from it you know participating or I've tried before. 1614 03:28:26,000 --> 03:28:38,000 I'll be some other reason so no exact I mean I'm not a physician but I didn't necessarily see a clear correlation between the two okay that's interesting. 1615 03:28:38,000 --> 03:28:52,000 Which you can you mentioned child care which is the one other area that I feel like I talked to deputy director Herman about this already it's like if you like that's the one other barrier. 1616 03:28:52,000 --> 03:29:02,000 from a lot of the populations you know difficulties in getting to especially in after hours meeting it's one thing if you can satisfy that. 1617 03:29:02,000 --> 03:29:20,000 That food need coming straight from work and paying for the parking but the child care issue is one that we still haven't really cracked and I'm just wondering if there were any ideas that came up as to how we could manage that. 1618 03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:26,000 Again I'll start and because anything to add I'll have him at it but. 1619 03:29:26,000 --> 03:29:36,000 We we kind of focus on the food and parking because those were something that we could immediately offer like they're we have the ability to offer the validation we already established the. 1620 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:10,000 We'll snack, basket, that's something that, you know, something we have familiarity with and we're able to kind of tackle that at a sooner time frame. 1621 03:30:10,000 --> 03:30:26,000 I think with the child care cost aspect of it, it would probably require a little bit more in-depth research and, you know, it is something that we could maybe look into, but I think it would require a little bit more from staff to kind of assess as an option, but 1622 03:30:27,000 --> 03:30:29,000 I think let me know, have any thoughts? 1623 03:30:30,000 --> 03:30:36,000 Yep, thanks for the question. I think we just acknowledge that that was the hardest of the three to address. 1624 03:30:36,000 --> 03:30:43,000 You know, that we've taken different approaches with really large public meetings where we know there's going to be a lot of folks there, like our community forum. 1625 03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:52,000 We provide child care. That's not really a great fit for the solution clearly to be a cost associated with that and kind of matching up that with need might be really difficult. 1626 03:30:52,000 --> 03:31:02,000 I think the reality is that if we wanted to compensate people for cost associated with child care, we would probably need to do that via the employee compensation method. 1627 03:31:02,000 --> 03:31:03,000 Yeah. 1628 03:31:03,000 --> 03:31:11,000 I figured, but I just thought I'd ask. It's, I don't have a good solution for it either, so just curious though. Thank you. 1629 03:31:11,000 --> 03:31:15,000 Thank you. Council member Marks. 1630 03:31:16,000 --> 03:31:23,000 Thank you. Yeah. I just quickly looked up the 1099, the IRS 1099 form requirements. 1631 03:31:23,000 --> 03:31:38,000 For years, it's been $600 that if you earn $600, you have to file a 1099, but it's just been raised to 2000. 1632 03:31:39,000 --> 03:31:52,000 So I don't think that that's a barrier, but in terms of just making people feel welcome and appreciated. 1633 03:31:52,000 --> 03:32:03,000 I think, well, I'm not in deliberation now, but I just want to say that I think the recommendations very practical and easy to do. 1634 03:32:03,000 --> 03:32:11,000 It also could be something we could do for year or two and then see what what happens. 1635 03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:19,000 So, you know, the gift card thing, I just somehow I just don't like that because it is volunteer work. 1636 03:32:19,000 --> 03:32:24,000 So anyway, I'll talk more later. Thanks. 1637 03:32:24,000 --> 03:32:31,000 Okay. I don't see any other questions on the list. Do you have any public comment? 1638 03:32:31,000 --> 03:32:39,000 I do not. Okay. Well, bring them right back for deliberations. There you go. 1639 03:32:39,000 --> 03:32:52,000 Thank you for that amount for the independent contractor. I think what I heard was it's not so much the amount, but the paying in lieu of money is that correct. 1640 03:32:52,000 --> 03:33:11,000 For the independent contractor or that was more along the lines of like how we are compensating them for is the issue with the legality of it, because if you think about what roles and responsibilities that advisory body members are doing. 1641 03:33:11,000 --> 03:33:20,000 We, we kind of assessed it. There's a, there's an employee classification test that ABC dynamics test that I referenced in my report. 1642 03:33:20,000 --> 03:33:26,000 That has these three kind of stipulations as to how you can classify employee versus otherwise. 1643 03:33:26,000 --> 03:33:39,000 And overall, it's not a simple yes or no answer that all of these advisory bodies fit under that specific assessment, so that was kind of more of the. 1644 03:33:39,000 --> 03:33:49,000 What we were talking about when it came to the independent contractor that the gift card method thinking about it now, just the fact that it wasn't necessarily a substitution for compensating them for their time. 1645 03:33:49,000 --> 03:33:58,000 Also, like getting into the negative like where are we going to, you know, get these gift cards are we going to partner with someone I know we had talked with staff. 1646 03:33:58,000 --> 03:34:11,000 One of the council compensation committee members had brought that up is as a trial for one of the advisory bodies that they were looking to compensate them that way and they were partnering with specific. 1647 03:34:11,000 --> 03:34:13,000 Bank, I think is what she was saying. 1648 03:34:13,000 --> 03:34:26,000 So again, where do we decide where we're going to get these gift cards regularly, so that was kind of one of the, I didn't really highlight that in my report, but that was one of the issues we ran into when discussing like the gift card method. 1649 03:34:26,000 --> 03:34:29,000 Like as a method of compensation. 1650 03:34:29,000 --> 03:34:37,000 I don't know if that answer your question, but that did. Thank you. I was just trying to make sure I was there was kind of two lanes there and I wanted to make sure we got those. 1651 03:34:37,000 --> 03:34:40,000 All right, any. 1652 03:34:41,000 --> 03:34:46,000 Moving to any motions, any questions, where are we at council members, or something. 1653 03:34:46,000 --> 03:35:03,000 I guess just a quick comment slash question, I know it came up in a gender review today that either zero or not very many other cities even offer parking validation. 1654 03:35:03,000 --> 03:35:11,000 To community members, so I feel like we're already a little bit ahead in sort of this. 1655 03:35:11,000 --> 03:35:26,000 I don't know in even considering this policy and I do think that although it's not compensation at least providing parking for folks when they're here for three hours at the end of a work day or even in the middle of the day where it might be harder to find parking. 1656 03:35:26,000 --> 03:35:36,000 I think is is a nice benefit. It is in some ways. Maybe if it's not compensation. It is a small thank you for for your service and having snacks is reasonable. 1657 03:35:36,000 --> 03:35:54,000 I do want to kind of keep it on our radar to think about ways that maybe in the future we might be able to do either compensation or some sort of subsidy of child care, but I'm content enough with this approach to support the support the staff's request. 1658 03:35:54,000 --> 03:35:58,000 The staff's recommendation tonight. Sorry I'm starting to lose my words. 1659 03:35:58,000 --> 03:36:02,000 That's okay. Thank you. Council member marks. 1660 03:36:02,000 --> 03:36:08,000 Yeah, I think the staff recommendation makes perfect sense. 1661 03:36:08,000 --> 03:36:18,000 You know, the other question that I would have that someone I'm related, but it's whether people could participate via zoom if they had small children. 1662 03:36:18,000 --> 03:36:26,000 You know, if they didn't want, you know, I mean, and just this by own experience when the kids are really little. 1663 03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:30,000 I want to spend as much time with them as I could, you know. 1664 03:36:30,000 --> 03:36:41,000 And so I mean, that may be a decent sense of volunteering for something that takes place in the evening just because of your personal wish to spend especially if you're working all day. 1665 03:36:41,000 --> 03:36:57,000 And then you've just got a little bit of time with the kids in my anyway. So I think I think it would be a good way to go the staff recommendation and when I I do want to say with the snacks, they should be somewhat substantial snacks in that. 1666 03:36:57,000 --> 03:36:59,000 If they are coming straight from work. 1667 03:37:00,000 --> 03:37:09,000 Everyone knows that when your blood sugar grows down, you stop making good decisions. You just start thinking about food. 1668 03:37:09,000 --> 03:37:15,000 Anyway, so that's I will at the right time like to move the staff recommendation. 1669 03:37:15,000 --> 03:37:18,000 Thank you, Vice Mayor. 1670 03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:28,000 Yeah, you know, as Council member, it sure has been pointed out earlier kind of the intended spirit of this discussion was to kind of promote more. 1671 03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:40,000 A demographic and socioeconomic diversity on our advisory bodies and I know that there are a lot of barriers to doing that at this stage. 1672 03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:43,000 But I just kind of want to keep this conversation alive. 1673 03:37:43,000 --> 03:37:46,000 I'm willing to support this pilot today. 1674 03:37:46,000 --> 03:37:52,000 I think compensating for the three hours of parking and having some food is, you know, a nice first step. 1675 03:37:52,000 --> 03:37:57,000 It doesn't really get at the essence of what we're trying to solve here. 1676 03:37:57,000 --> 03:38:10,000 And so I want to just kind of encourage us all to keep thinking about how we can have an advisory body group that really is representative of all the people in the city. 1677 03:38:11,000 --> 03:38:21,000 And I think that might require us getting a little more creative here with some compensation or some childcare and trying to figure out this tough not to crack. 1678 03:38:21,000 --> 03:38:28,000 But I'll be willing to support this on a pilot basis of what we keep thinking through this. 1679 03:38:28,000 --> 03:38:36,000 Thank you. I appreciate that I know that this was the goal was to help people who are not able to come to the table. 1680 03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:42,000 And I hope that, you know, in two years, this was looked at again. 1681 03:38:42,000 --> 03:38:49,000 And at the same time to be realistic as to what what changes right in between now and then. 1682 03:38:49,000 --> 03:39:01,000 I think that this is a great move parking was something that we heard quite a bit from members and people who turned in for the survey that that is like I'm trying to get from work to the committee meetings. 1683 03:39:01,000 --> 03:39:07,000 I think this would be very helpful and of course, blood sugar absolutely little snacks keep us going. 1684 03:39:07,000 --> 03:39:16,000 I think I think makes a lot of sense. So I'm in support of this recommendation and, you know, I think, 1685 03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:28,000 I think if nothing else with parks and racken and childcare just seems logical that we'd put those to get those to the get of people needed it, but that's a I think it's a longer term goal that maybe we can work on in the future. 1686 03:39:28,000 --> 03:39:34,000 So that's what I have council member marks. She said you wanted to move. 1687 03:39:34,000 --> 03:39:37,000 Move the staff recommendation. 1688 03:39:37,000 --> 03:39:40,000 Great. Thank you very much. Council member Schorzman. 1689 03:39:40,000 --> 03:39:43,000 I'll go ahead and second it. Thank you. 1690 03:39:43,000 --> 03:39:46,000 Thank you, city clerk. Can we have roll call. 1691 03:39:46,000 --> 03:39:51,000 Council member marks. Yes. Council member Schorzman. 1692 03:39:51,000 --> 03:39:54,000 Yes. Council member Boswell. 1693 03:39:54,000 --> 03:39:55,000 Yes. 1694 03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:58,000 Vice Mayor Francis. Yes. Mayor Stewart. 1695 03:39:58,000 --> 03:40:08,000 Yes, and thank you, emotion passes five zero and with that all we have left is the liaison reports and communications vice mayor. 1696 03:40:08,000 --> 03:40:34,000 I'll jump right in here on 520. I had opportunity to go to one of our day of welcomes. It's for new employees and was a small group from IT and the police and public works, but actually the small group made it really fun because we just got to have kind of a roundtable discussion and have it be pretty informal and got so many awesome questions from this new group of employees and excited to see what they do in the city. 1697 03:40:34,000 --> 03:40:48,000 We had our investment oversight committee meeting on the 21st and kind of a big focus of that discussion was talking about our ESG strategy so that's environmental social and governance strategy. 1698 03:40:48,000 --> 03:41:03,000 There are some companies that were currently invested in. We just kind of were wondering how they're retaining the rating that they currently have under the ESG ratings and wanting to get a little more information about about how the third parties that they give the 1699 03:41:03,000 --> 03:41:12,000 ESG ratings determine that and make sure that we're investing aligned with our philosophy here at the city. 1700 03:41:12,000 --> 03:41:25,000 The 21st I also got to attend the advisory body lunch with the mayor, which is always one of my very favorite events getting to hear with the advisory bodies are not only working on but excited about and really just left inspired. 1701 03:41:25,000 --> 03:41:35,000 So thank you. Thank you. We just finished talking about all of our lovely advisory body members and just so grateful to all their service, not leave it there. 1702 03:41:35,000 --> 03:41:37,000 Thank you. Council members. 1703 03:41:37,000 --> 03:41:54,000 Yeah, just a couple things hasn't been very long since our last meeting. So last Wednesday I believe it was I was able to attend a history center event recognizing me a Lawrence and the semi-quincentennial. 1704 03:41:54,000 --> 03:41:59,000 Display that they have in the history center. 1705 03:41:59,000 --> 03:42:18,000 Really, really good display and Mia created this, this just a great display with a lot of Chicano heritage memorabilia in it and then on Sunday. I think it was no Saturday. 1706 03:42:19,000 --> 03:42:29,000 Food bank open house over at there, warehouse and really fun competition to watch them fill no cook bags. 1707 03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:38,000 And they turn that into a fun competition, so it's always fun to watch and lots of great food to appropriately at the food bank, lots of great food there. 1708 03:42:38,000 --> 03:42:55,000 And yesterday I one of my favorite times of the year is always community service awards for our local high school students. So I helped give out the mayor's award at slow high last night to I don't know, it's like 120 kids. 1709 03:42:55,000 --> 03:43:07,000 So a lot of and got to hear some of the stories of what they're doing to earn their hours and just always fun to see our young people doing so much good stuff for our community. 1710 03:43:07,000 --> 03:43:22,000 And just want to close with a little congratulations and we've got a slow high school graduation this Friday afternoon I have a graduate so congratulations to all the slow high schoolers graduating on Friday. 1711 03:43:22,000 --> 03:43:31,000 And then to all the Cal Poly students graduating, I think the following weekend. So congratulations to everybody. 1712 03:43:31,000 --> 03:43:34,000 Thank you. Councilman Marks. 1713 03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:46,000 Well, on the 20th, I had an air pollution control district meeting and it was about the budget same, you know, this time of year. 1714 03:43:46,000 --> 03:43:59,000 They are under budget and they're basically always it's a very thrifty organization one thing that I learned. 1715 03:43:59,000 --> 03:44:09,000 That was somewhat concerning was that there's no ozone monitor in the in the city of San Luis Obispo. 1716 03:44:09,000 --> 03:44:24,000 There was one up until I think the year 2021 when our ratings were so good with ozone that they decided that. 1717 03:44:24,000 --> 03:44:38,000 Carb the mothership of the all the air pollution control districts the California air resources for decided that we didn't need one. 1718 03:44:38,000 --> 03:44:51,000 However, there is one in Moro Bay and the ozone and ozone travels kind of like in a cloud and there are pretty high ratings. 1719 03:44:51,000 --> 03:44:55,000 Also on ratings in Moro Bay, which is near the ocean. 1720 03:44:55,000 --> 03:45:01,000 So I'm concerned that we don't have an ozone. 1721 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:19,000 The city staff at some point should check in with the air pollution control district, because I think it's really important, those zones can have very damaging health effects on people. 1722 03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:40,000 And tomorrow is the rack meeting, the water resources advisory committee meeting, and we're going to be talking about, among other things, the slow base in GSA. 1723 03:45:40,000 --> 03:45:50,000 I asked a question of staff about whether we needed to an update is due in January 2027. 1724 03:45:50,000 --> 03:46:00,000 So I asked if we needed to appoint two members to be part of that base in GSA. 1725 03:46:00,000 --> 03:46:12,000 Since we had one, we had two members, Emily Francis and NDPs back when, but it turns out that the update was going to come to the whole council in January. 1726 03:46:12,000 --> 03:46:22,000 So this body will serve as the, we will be doing the hearing for the update. 1727 03:46:22,000 --> 03:46:34,000 On the 25th, I went to the Veterans Memorial Celebration for Memorial Day, and it was packed. 1728 03:46:34,000 --> 03:46:55,000 It was very emotional, and it was really, very, how do I say, it was just very low key in certain ways, but it was really solid, it was great seeing the whole community come together like that. 1729 03:46:55,000 --> 03:47:19,000 And then on the 31st, I went to with some other council members as well, a celebration of the third year of the tenets union and a send off for Tyler Corey, who's as a student has really been kind of a spark plug for getting the whole thing going. 1730 03:47:19,000 --> 03:47:25,000 He's now going to be doing an internship with a city of San Luis, the city of Long Beach. 1731 03:47:25,000 --> 03:47:29,000 He's hoping to become the city manager someday. 1732 03:47:29,000 --> 03:47:31,000 So we'll see. 1733 03:47:31,000 --> 03:47:36,000 And that's about my, my events in terms of my announcements. 1734 03:47:36,000 --> 03:47:48,000 I wanted to let people know that city form slow has got a farm stand on Saturdays from 10 am to 1, and then on Wednesdays they've added another day. 1735 03:47:48,000 --> 03:47:51,000 From 2, 30, to 6 pm. 1736 03:47:51,000 --> 03:48:00,000 And people who, it's a pay, pay what you can is the motto. 1737 03:48:00,000 --> 03:48:14,000 People are given up to $30 worth of discount on these organic vegetables, and a lot of people are coming. 1738 03:48:14,000 --> 03:48:20,000 And now that the word is out and getting basically free organic vegetables. 1739 03:48:20,000 --> 03:48:30,000 So whether you want to pay the price that is listed or you want to donate some more or if you know somebody who's feeling. 1740 03:48:30,000 --> 03:48:33,000 Food insecure who wants some great food. 1741 03:48:33,000 --> 03:48:34,000 Now's the time. 1742 03:48:34,000 --> 03:48:37,000 Lots of beautiful beautiful vegetables. 1743 03:48:37,000 --> 03:48:39,000 Okay, that's all I have. 1744 03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:43,000 Do you have a name for the little lamb? 1745 03:48:44,000 --> 03:48:45,000 Millie. 1746 03:48:45,000 --> 03:48:46,000 Millie. 1747 03:48:46,000 --> 03:48:47,000 Millie. 1748 03:48:47,000 --> 03:48:48,000 Millie. 1749 03:48:48,000 --> 03:48:49,000 Millie. 1750 03:48:49,000 --> 03:48:54,000 So we did not name the lamb compost. 1751 03:48:54,000 --> 03:48:57,000 I'm glad compost did not win as a name. 1752 03:48:57,000 --> 03:48:59,000 Oh, that's fantastic. 1753 03:48:59,000 --> 03:49:00,000 Millie. 1754 03:49:00,000 --> 03:49:01,000 Thank you. 1755 03:49:01,000 --> 03:49:02,000 Can't remember. 1756 03:49:02,000 --> 03:49:03,000 As well. 1757 03:49:03,000 --> 03:49:05,000 I like compost. 1758 03:49:05,000 --> 03:49:09,000 No, you don't want to need to go compost. 1759 03:49:09,000 --> 03:49:11,000 They're good at that though. 1760 03:49:12,000 --> 03:49:14,000 Just a couple things to mention. 1761 03:49:14,000 --> 03:49:18,000 Tended the cap slow board meeting on the 21st. 1762 03:49:18,000 --> 03:49:24,000 Nothing particular report out of that. 1763 03:49:24,000 --> 03:49:25,000 And then. 1764 03:49:25,000 --> 03:49:28,000 Tended the slow food bank open house. 1765 03:49:28,000 --> 03:49:34,000 And just always want to thank them for feeding our community. 1766 03:49:34,000 --> 03:49:35,000 Well, thank you. 1767 03:49:35,000 --> 03:49:39,000 Yes, I also got to attend the slow food bank open house. 1768 03:49:39,000 --> 03:49:40,000 It was a lot of fun. 1769 03:49:40,000 --> 03:49:43,000 And I just want to say congratulations to rate. 1770 03:49:43,000 --> 03:49:45,000 The mortgage company. 1771 03:49:45,000 --> 03:49:49,000 I saw Don Lewis and her whole team just killed it. 1772 03:49:49,000 --> 03:49:53,000 They made 10 no cook bags in record time filled them all accurately. 1773 03:49:53,000 --> 03:49:55,000 But saw some additional. 1774 03:49:55,000 --> 03:50:00,000 I learned Cal Poly and what was the fourth group. 1775 03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:01,000 Which one? 1776 03:50:01,000 --> 03:50:02,000 Thank you. 1777 03:50:02,000 --> 03:50:03,000 Columbia Bank. 1778 03:50:03,000 --> 03:50:06,000 All did amazing jobs, fill in those food banks. 1779 03:50:06,000 --> 03:50:08,000 No cooked food bags. 1780 03:50:08,000 --> 03:50:12,000 Also, on the 21st, yes, advisory body quarterly advisory bodies. 1781 03:50:12,000 --> 03:50:15,000 One of my favorite times to be able to see what's happening. 1782 03:50:15,000 --> 03:50:19,000 Not just in our community and in our communities, but with the volunteers who give their 1783 03:50:19,000 --> 03:50:20,000 time. 1784 03:50:20,000 --> 03:50:23,000 And so that's really a wonderful full circle for today. 1785 03:50:23,000 --> 03:50:30,000 Got to say thank you to Isaac Pummel and Mark Cabalisa, the president's student 1786 03:50:30,000 --> 03:50:37,000 money president of Cal Poly and Quest at the student community liaison committee, SCLC. 1787 03:50:37,000 --> 03:50:44,000 And hello and welcome to Sean Shelton and Tanner Schinderley, which will be serving us serving 1788 03:50:44,000 --> 03:50:48,000 their schools in the next year. 1789 03:50:48,000 --> 03:50:53,000 A big congratulations to Lewis for 50 years of Lewis's place. 1790 03:50:53,000 --> 03:50:56,000 They had a fabulous pancake competition. 1791 03:50:56,000 --> 03:51:02,000 And I feel like I talked about that before, but I just, it was an amazing experience to watch. 1792 03:51:02,000 --> 03:51:03,000 Whale Walk. 1793 03:51:03,000 --> 03:51:05,000 Whale Rock. 1794 03:51:05,000 --> 03:51:06,000 Wow. 1795 03:51:06,000 --> 03:51:07,000 It's the end of the night. 1796 03:51:07,000 --> 03:51:12,000 Whale Rock Commission was on Thursday the 28th. 1797 03:51:12,000 --> 03:51:18,000 And I just have to say city manager McDonald was the chair of the committee. 1798 03:51:18,000 --> 03:51:20,000 Thank you very much for your service. 1799 03:51:20,000 --> 03:51:25,000 I know that rotates around, but this is our partnership with Cal Poly and with CMC. 1800 03:51:25,000 --> 03:51:32,000 And just great to see, not just the water, of course, that we help provide here in this community, 1801 03:51:32,000 --> 03:51:38,000 but the work that was done has secured more water to not disappear out of our dam. 1802 03:51:38,000 --> 03:51:42,000 Also, continue to rebuild the fences. 1803 03:51:42,000 --> 03:51:50,000 So we could keep any cow matter out of the water and keep a safe and clean. 1804 03:51:50,000 --> 03:51:55,000 And so I just thought it was, there were a lot of projects they did together and it was really great. 1805 03:51:55,000 --> 03:51:58,000 So if you have free time and you're interested in water, check it out. 1806 03:51:58,000 --> 03:52:00,000 It's a really good report. 1807 03:52:00,000 --> 03:52:02,000 And it's a whole year of their projects. 1808 03:52:02,000 --> 03:52:12,000 On the 30th, I got to spend a little time with one of the Laguna Middle School community service project recipients. 1809 03:52:12,000 --> 03:52:19,000 She gathered people who had gone through the Tech Trek 8th grade middle school program and people who were going into the Tech Trek. 1810 03:52:19,000 --> 03:52:21,000 This summer. 1811 03:52:21,000 --> 03:52:27,000 And these young women are looking at, you know, what they're going to do in the long run, whether it's with STEM, science and technology, 1812 03:52:27,000 --> 03:52:32,000 but also with potential public policy and leadership in the future. 1813 03:52:32,000 --> 03:52:34,000 So that was really great. 1814 03:52:34,000 --> 03:52:37,000 And I went to the Greek festival. 1815 03:52:37,000 --> 03:52:40,000 It's been happening since 2009. 1816 03:52:40,000 --> 03:52:41,000 Wonderful food. 1817 03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:42,000 Wonderful dancing. 1818 03:52:42,000 --> 03:52:44,000 And just a wonderful experience. 1819 03:52:44,000 --> 03:52:47,000 So thank, I'm very thankful to them. 1820 03:52:47,000 --> 03:52:55,000 Tomorrow, we'll be talking with many people in our community, our in our county with a slow cog, the slow county council of governments. 1821 03:52:55,000 --> 03:53:07,000 We'll be talking about the ballot initiative and potentially putting a sales tax on the ballot in November to help us with our infrastructure to become a self-help county. 1822 03:53:07,000 --> 03:53:11,000 So that's one of the big topics, but actually the agenda is pretty large. 1823 03:53:11,000 --> 03:53:13,000 If you want to take a look at what we'll be doing. 1824 03:53:13,000 --> 03:53:16,000 I just want to say congratulations to Peyton. 1825 03:53:16,000 --> 03:53:22,000 But I also want to say congratulations to all those who just graduated just in the last week or two at mission. 1826 03:53:22,000 --> 03:53:25,000 At quest and are coming up this year. 1827 03:53:25,000 --> 03:53:32,000 I'm sorry, this week at slow high and all of the slow coastal along with the cowpolly next next week. 1828 03:53:32,000 --> 03:53:34,000 And lastly, I hope everyone got out there. 1829 03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:35,000 Vote. 1830 03:53:35,000 --> 03:53:37,000 I see many of us were our I voted stickers. 1831 03:53:37,000 --> 03:53:41,000 And look forward to seeing what happens with the primaries at this time. 1832 03:53:41,000 --> 03:53:42,000 Thank you so much. 1833 03:53:42,000 --> 03:53:53,000 And we'll see you all for our last meeting of the year on June 16th. 1834 03:53:53,000 --> 03:53:56,000 Last meeting of the fiscal year.