1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,140 And we can start with the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:46,390 And now I'll turn to the secretary and we can do the roll call. Mary Adler. Present. Michael Arbach. Present. Allison Chang. Here. I know Estilia. Here. James Ganner. Here. Arrella, who is our. Jedadayakoon is delayed. Alex Madrid. Who? Max Motner is delayed. David Rabinovich. Present. Kathleen Rubens. Here. 3 00:00:51,710 --> 00:01:14,490 We can move on to item number 4, which is the approval of the meeting minutes from our August 26 meeting and do we have any committee discussion on the item. 4 00:01:16,150 --> 00:01:16,670 All right. 5 00:01:16,670 --> 00:01:17,950 Do we have any public comments on the item? 6 00:01:18,470 --> 00:01:19,290 There are no public comments. 7 00:01:19,690 --> 00:01:19,870 All right. 8 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:20,530 Do I have a motion? 9 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:21,330 Motion. 10 00:01:21,890 --> 00:01:22,630 Do I have a second? 11 00:01:23,050 --> 00:01:23,490 Very good. 12 00:01:24,890 --> 00:01:25,510 All right. 13 00:01:25,930 --> 00:01:29,170 Motion and I'll say second from Member Midrune. 14 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:30,430 Through the chair. 15 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:31,790 This will have to be a roll call vote. 16 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:32,450 Okay. 17 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:34,970 Adler. 18 00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:35,670 Aye. 19 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:36,630 Arbok. 20 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:38,110 Aye. 21 00:01:38,490 --> 00:01:38,650 Chang. 22 00:01:39,930 --> 00:01:40,290 Aye. 23 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:41,610 Esliya. 24 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:42,550 Aye. 25 00:01:42,850 --> 00:01:43,050 Anna. 26 00:01:43,410 --> 00:01:43,850 Aye. 27 00:01:56,190 --> 00:02:02,590 Alright, thank you. Moving on to item number five, which is a presentation on the Reimagined Umbarten project. 28 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Oh, sorry, is the microphone on. 29 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:28,100 Thank you. 30 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Sorry about that. 31 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,000 The agenda for this presentation will be a project overview. 32 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 A recap of our engagement phase one. 33 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:43,420 Proposed project design alternatives on the corridor and then ways for our public. 34 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,320 And you all to provide input on next steps. 35 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,260 So quick project overview. 36 00:02:50,660 --> 00:02:52,740 This is our five mile. 37 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Dumbarton corridor on the peninsula side. 38 00:02:57,060 --> 00:03:03,620 It's run from University Avenue and East Palo Alto all the way to middlefield Avenue and north for our oaks. 39 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:11,660 It's currently an abandoned rail line that we hope to take to the next level. 40 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,380 Why reimagine Dumbarton, Dumbarton? 41 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:23,760 We want to reconnect communities, creating really, here's a chance to create walk in and 42 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,680 and bicycling connections to improve access. 43 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,360 We really want to provide faster, reliable transit. 44 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:32,300 We've seen even faster times in vehicle travel 45 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 to give one from one place to the other on the corridor. 46 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:38,260 We want to incorporate active transportation 47 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:42,980 that being pedestrian and bicycle access. 48 00:03:43,540 --> 00:03:45,420 And then we want to respond to changing travel needs. 49 00:03:46,780 --> 00:03:48,620 Just recent and future developments 50 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:50,140 while preserving the flexibility 51 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,300 of a rail project in the future. 52 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:57,880 So this project is not precluded in any way well on this corridor. 53 00:04:00,550 --> 00:04:05,690 This slide was a video, a three minute video, but unfortunately we're not able to play it today. 54 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:12,870 I will love for our community to go to our website that I'll have on our last slide. 55 00:04:13,050 --> 00:04:18,590 That has the video of overview, great illustration of what the possibilities are for this corridor. 56 00:04:18,590 --> 00:04:23,950 for, again, it's a dedicated busway with nine new stations on the corridor. 57 00:04:24,250 --> 00:04:28,830 We have paved trail between Bay Trail and University Avenue all the way to Midafield. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,460 And four access points on the south. 59 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:31,470 Our community engagement phase one, this was back late November to December. We had 11 pop-up events. We had two great community meetings and the steady area. We had a great response to our survey over 1,000 responses from the public and 15 road show presentations for throughout. 60 00:05:31,470 --> 00:05:32,170 the community. 61 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:40,550 What we heard from the community, we wanted better connections, particularly getting to 62 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:48,350 CalTrain and Bart and the East Bay. Increased transit access to more places, improvements to transit 63 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:56,710 speed and reliability, and new opportunities for biking and walking on the corridor. Existing corridor, 64 00:05:57,070 --> 00:06:02,510 the existing corridor currently sits as a barrier for the community is what a lot of the feedback was 65 00:06:02,510 --> 00:06:09,290 as well. And we also got plenty of questions related to noise and privacy after such a project 66 00:06:09,290 --> 00:06:09,750 is built. 67 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:16,940 Proposed project design alternatives. These are our initial alternatives on what 68 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:25,200 we think this corridor can look like. As of now, the left picture is the part of the corridor 69 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,140 that's double tracked and the right picture is where it's single tracked. Even though the 70 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:32,560 The picture on the left looks like it's currently in use. 71 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:35,840 There has been no real traffic on the corridor whatsoever. 72 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:45,160 Right now, our design alternatives are at the mid-block sections to have a parallel running 73 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:54,860 corridor for the buses with buffers of some sort of landscaping on each end with a 20-foot 74 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:59,180 multi-use pass on the south end of the corridor. 75 00:06:59,180 --> 00:07:10,740 At the station level, we have in stations on both the left and right side of the corridor with a middle lane for passing buses. 76 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:17,060 We're also imagining different types of services also being offered. 77 00:07:17,740 --> 00:07:21,020 We're thinking of, for instance, the Dunbarton Express right now. 78 00:07:22,380 --> 00:07:28,000 And as far as other like the EEPX will also have a chance to run in those corridors. 79 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 and that's the reason for the middle, middle passing lane, 80 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,480 while also retaining the 20-foot multi-use pass. 81 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Right now, we have identified nine stations. 82 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,280 The travel time from university all the way to 83 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,180 middle field right now is at 13 minutes. 84 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,120 The stations are separated by a minimum of half-mile of each. 85 00:07:55,380 --> 00:07:58,180 There's a section where it's a little narrower 86 00:07:59,380 --> 00:08:05,160 on the corridor and the station access would be primarily blocking by 87 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:10,400 clean and micro mobility. There will be no parking vehicle parking available at 88 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,300 any of the stations. 89 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Active transportation improvements. Right now we're looking at 90 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,960 at a continuous four mile walk in a bicycle trail that would also connect to the 91 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:29,160 bay trail. Currently we're estimated estimated about a thousand daily users on the 92 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:37,820 corridor. We looked at the iron horse trail and West Lake. A trail that's proportionally 93 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:44,400 a section of that's proportionate to the size of our corridor and we based it off of 94 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:51,060 that usage to get our numbers. We're also looking at faster bicycle trips and access 95 00:08:51,060 --> 00:08:51,600 for all. 96 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:58,470 This is a great picture of what a station would look like with an overview of the 97 00:08:58,470 --> 00:09:04,130 bus stopping at the station and the view was a mixed used trail. 98 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,240 This is our 101 crossing. 99 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,680 The left picture is what it currently looks like. 100 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:17,580 It's a really, really bad condition existing bridge that's out there right now. 101 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,060 It's covered in graffiti and trash. 102 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,820 What we're imagining right now is on your right side. 103 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:39,680 It would be a dual lane bus only lane and then another side, the right side being the 20 foot multi use path for pedestrian and by school use as well. 104 00:09:42,050 --> 00:09:47,990 Again, these are the 15 access points that were identified so far. 105 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:55,250 I think through this process will be identifying more access points as we start talking to more and more with local jurisdictions. 106 00:09:55,510 --> 00:09:59,970 I know, for instance, we've talked to Menlo Park, City Council, and they've 107 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,980 We might be interested in looking at. We're looking for opportunities for small recreational areas, as well, along these along the corridor that would also include some sort of green space. This is what we're looking at right now as far as potential recreational opportunities. They're all marked by the green little tree right there on the on the corridor. And we're also through this outreach. We're asking the community, we're asking everyone, what would you like to see? 108 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:36,720 out there. So we have options that folks can pick and give us their input on what they 109 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:43,280 really want to see. We're thinking of fitness and exercise locations, playgrounds, gathering 110 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,660 spaces and even dog parks on the corridor. 111 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:52,990 Next steps and then getting involved. So right 112 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:59,830 now we're on phase two. We're at the 2006 fall. We're doing our phase two engagement right 113 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:06,070 right now we're going through even more pop-ups, again, community meetings, city council meetings 114 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:09,910 to just let them know where we're at and what we've heard so far. 115 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:12,890 The bottom is a long-term picture right now. 116 00:11:13,390 --> 00:11:16,070 I want to remind everyone this is just a feasibility study. 117 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:22,330 We're studying the feasibility of such a project giving existing or the possibility of existing. 118 00:11:22,330 --> 00:11:30,270 Once we were estimating completion around January, February of 2007 with an approved project 119 00:11:30,270 --> 00:11:35,110 to move forward by our board, we would move to the environmental study and preliminary 120 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:37,590 design and engineering phase of the project. 121 00:11:38,650 --> 00:11:44,570 That would be followed by the final design phase in 29 to 30 and we're looking right now 122 00:11:44,570 --> 00:11:50,650 rough estimates of construction begin in 2031 if all goes well. 123 00:11:50,650 --> 00:11:56,300 This is our slide with our QR code. 124 00:11:56,460 --> 00:12:01,200 We're asking everyone to please scan the QR code, 125 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:05,640 go to our website, give us any feedback, 126 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:11,240 all the feedback you can possibly think of to get us 127 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,400 in the right direction to sort of get 128 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,940 in this project to the finish line. 129 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,840 With that being said, I'm going to leave it on this slide 130 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,320 and I'll be happy to take any questions from the committee. 131 00:12:25,060 --> 00:12:26,540 Thank you very much for the presentation. 132 00:12:26,820 --> 00:12:29,440 Before we do questions, do we have any public comment on the item? 133 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,520 There are no public comments. 134 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:31,560 All right, thank you. 135 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,820 Then yeah, I'll turn it over to the committee members who has a yes, member of a benefit. 136 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 First of all, I want to thank you for the presentation. 137 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:41,800 It was very well done. 138 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:49,080 I'm going to follow this with a lot of critical thoughts from the presentation. 139 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,900 I do want to say that you did a great job and the entire team has done a great job. 140 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:03,640 We received a similar presentation on this project about a year or two ago and we were 141 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:09,520 told that a priority is to keep the rail line in place, to keep space for it. 142 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:15,240 None of the renders you showed us, none of the diagrams have the rail line in place. 143 00:13:16,060 --> 00:13:22,600 Now, you are correct when you mentioned that the rail line is not used apart from 144 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,040 CalTrain, Occasionally Story, and Vehicles there, etc. 145 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:33,560 But the rail line was purchased by Sam Trins, so it could be used again as a rail line. 146 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:42,920 Fortunately, the rail bridge burned down partially about 20-30 years ago, but there was a project 147 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,600 with Metta, a company, Metta Facebook company that is along that quarter and they wanted 148 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,860 to help rebuild the bridge and bring rail service back. They pulled out of the project 149 00:13:53,860 --> 00:14:00,020 because of the pandemic obviously they aren't bringing employees to work so why should 150 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:07,120 they fund a way to bring employees to work. But I think it would be easy for everyone to 151 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:15,300 agree that the world in 2020 is much more different than in 2026, even in terms of 152 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:20,640 committing patterns and traffic when this project was in its like very early 153 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:29,340 stages for a busway 2022-2023 traffic was much more different. I think if Sam 154 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:34,500 transports go to the table with Meta or other companies again and say we want 155 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:39,100 to bring rail service, there could be potential for a new partnership. 156 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:46,590 This is an important rail corridor in general. 157 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:52,910 Unfortunately, it was shut down decades ago, but there have been plans, especially for 158 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:58,130 other rail lines on the East Bay, to use that corridor if it were to ever be built. 159 00:14:58,130 --> 00:14:59,790 Oh, um... 160 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Purchase by the, or the tracks were purchased by the joint powers board with the help of CalTrans, who captured rail service running on the CalTrain line with southern Pacific, the old operator of both rail lines, the Dunbarton quarter and CalTrain, wanted to shut it down. Imagine if that happened and CalTrain would be shut down, like that would be terrible. 161 00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:29,240 Bar doesn't go to the North Bay or 162 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,160 for many years didn't go to San Mateo County, and now it's very hard to extend further down 163 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,760 because when there was an opportunity to build rail service, the opportunity wasn't taken. 164 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:49,320 I think a busway would be great, but the diagrams you showed us with what the community wants is not more bus service. 165 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,900 I think I've taken buses there. They run very fast, very smoothly. 166 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:58,500 I think a bike show that there would be great community spaces, there would be great. 167 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:06,520 But I don't think those are good reasons to fully pave over the old rail line and remove 168 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,000 any potential for rail service in the future. 169 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:16,080 Think if Sam trans builds this, they are going to regret it in 10, 20 years, very much. 170 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:23,160 I do want to say thank you for the presentation, you guys did a great job, I just don't believe 171 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,680 if this is the right project for San Frans. 172 00:16:28,750 --> 00:16:29,370 Thank you. 173 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:30,750 Member Midrune. 174 00:16:32,330 --> 00:16:36,170 Thank you for your first suggestion. 175 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:39,010 Two questions. 176 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:47,530 One is that I had decided some community members suggested 177 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:55,570 the parks and exercises places along the city. 178 00:16:55,590 --> 00:17:13,570 five or two months of work, have you guys been to different office spaces like Good Highway 179 00:17:13,570 --> 00:17:43,540 or go to the park where they sat down the street and see what it looked like and what the issue would be and what this might be learning issues that we can learn from that. 180 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:52,460 But that's one and the second thing is that with the trucks, 181 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,540 I am like what my colleague 182 00:17:59,540 --> 00:18:00,220 said. 183 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:13,300 We've been told that the truck would not touch but so my question is how do you guys 184 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:28,880 think about having a car train or utilize the train tracks. Possibly extending, use it 185 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,840 less to tracks. 186 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:43,410 I didn't quite understand. So I can. I can paraphrase. The first question 187 00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:48,590 is have you look into other places that have offered green areas? 188 00:18:48,990 --> 00:19:05,810 As an example, that you can incorporate those experiences or ideas into the project since we are going to have green areas and playgrounds and bicyclists, lanes of traffic or any of those features. 189 00:19:05,810 --> 00:19:07,090 Okay, great question. 190 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:11,570 Yes, we actually, we did talk to LA Metro. 191 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:19,450 They were one of the agencies that right off the bat told us to really, really try to 192 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,590 provide as much landscape as possible. 193 00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:25,890 You can't just really have concrete out there and call it a day. 194 00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:28,790 I think that was a great feedback from the initial start. 195 00:19:29,390 --> 00:19:35,530 Another chance we got to go down to Monterey and visit with them and they're doing a project 196 00:19:35,530 --> 00:19:40,510 called the surf project was basically sort of the same thing, but they are keeping the 197 00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:43,290 tracks along the corridor. 198 00:19:44,010 --> 00:19:51,130 And we got to see how they're kind of also intermingling the pedestrian access and actually 199 00:19:51,130 --> 00:19:57,670 extending and connecting other regional trails with their project. 200 00:19:57,670 --> 00:19:59,750 and that's the hope also with our project. 201 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:28,800 Final link to the Bay Trail as being an important aspect of the project. And also the trail that we're proposing with this project has been identified with plan. I believe this Bay Plan, or the 2050, the original Bay Plan has been identified in there as well as a, as a category 4 level 4. 202 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,860 for a proposed future by pedestrian. 203 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:36,340 I mentioned about San Francisco, 204 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Green Highway and San Francisco, 205 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Globbinger Park, which, as you know, 206 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,260 they shot down the whole area for people 207 00:20:53,260 --> 00:21:03,640 to work on and do some activities, how do you consider taking them out? 208 00:21:05,490 --> 00:21:07,400 We haven't yet, but that's a great point. 209 00:21:07,540 --> 00:21:09,400 That's something that we can definitely look into. 210 00:21:09,940 --> 00:21:16,200 We haven't thought of it that far in advance, but that's a great comment for us to take back 211 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,400 and talk with our internal team and to look at it, for sure. 212 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:28,900 The second point I had was to neutralize the train tracks. 213 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:35,600 I know that my colleague mentioned that we've been told that, 214 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:47,680 that we have been told that they're not going to touch the tracks. 215 00:21:47,680 --> 00:22:00,520 So what can you expand on what changed the only way I can expand right now my 216 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:07,220 understanding is that UP railroad has trackage rights on the corridor there the 217 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:12,620 agreement that would be between Sam trans and UP would be some sort of lane 218 00:22:12,620 --> 00:22:16,440 banking process that has been done in other parts of the country. 219 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,560 That being said, the agreement would be strictly saying that, if any future date, UP 220 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,820 deems the corridor that we need to put REL in there, then our project has to assist, 221 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,940 you know, stop and let UP do their thing with bringing in REL. 222 00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:38,480 So that's why we're careful to say that this project can no reason whatsoever, wherever 223 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,820 preclude REL. 224 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,940 Even though the tracks will be disappearing. 225 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,000 Hi, Charles Lee Chang, Government and Community Affairs Officer. 226 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,380 To remember a bit of itch's question, we are looking into what's called rail banking, 227 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,180 so it's a voluntary agreement with the agency, and it's happened in other places throughout 228 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:06,640 the country where it's a voluntary agreement where you can convert to trail from the unused 229 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,680 rail to trail, and then if they need to use it, then we could look into converting it back. 230 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,000 So, it is a law I think that's been in place since the 80s. 231 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,860 I have a few clarifying questions. 232 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:27,620 The first one are there scenarios where the rail returns in those rail bank areas. 233 00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:33,500 The second one on the comment that there's an agreement with Union Pacific for the project to stop construction. 234 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,960 If they deem it necessary in the next few years. 235 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:43,000 what if union-specific themes that area necessary in 2034, when the bus was there, 236 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,220 the same trends have to tear up the bus way to put tracks back in. 237 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:51,940 So that's something that we would be working with UP on in the discussions, 238 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:56,820 and that's kind of far out, but we hear your concerns, and we are going to continue 239 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:58,880 talking to UP about the different issues. 240 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,340 Oh, yeah, I just wanted to build on that real quick. 241 00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:10,540 Do you think, so it kind of sounds like the multi-use path is the thing that would get ripped out, 242 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:23,220 If we did want to go back to having the rail there, but it does seem like there's a lot of the like the planting strip on one side is 23 feet wide and then there's a 15 foot planting strip on the other side. 243 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:31,820 It may be consolidating those it seems like it could provide a lot of the 40 foot needed for rail if it needs to come back. 244 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Would you think about maybe consolidating the planting strips and possibly using that if UP or we want to bring the rail back instead of 245 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,060 repurposing the trail? 246 00:24:43,060 --> 00:24:48,700 At this point, I'm not ready to comment on that or to say, you know, yes or no. 247 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:55,380 I think we're trying to keep, I believe we're trying to keep the landscaping on both sides because we've got to remember we have 248 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:59,760 homes along the corridor that are also worried about. 249 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:09,180 And a way to try to keep that noises to heavily involve some sort of landscaping and the current trees that are out there as well. Sure. Thank you. Yeah. Member. 250 00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:31,680 Yeah. Thanks so much for the presentation. I think that a multi-use pathway here would be so amazing. And I really want to see that happen. And I really do not want to see you in specific be able to take that away from us. I was wondering if there would be 251 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:39,880 be any ways to make a busway that would be sort of like make it easier to turn it back 252 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,620 into rail. 253 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:46,540 So for example, like have instead of like a 12 foot wide strip of pavement have like 254 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:52,940 pavement only like around the rails so that the bus like can go still on top of the 255 00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:54,360 rails that might not be possible. 256 00:25:54,980 --> 00:26:01,500 But just a thought and or if San Francisco would consider redoing the rails to start and 257 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,940 and then running some sort of tram service on the rails, 258 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:07,580 which would allow same trains to keep the rails. 259 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,520 And then if you need specific wants the rails, 260 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,440 then it's very little work to change it. 261 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:17,900 No, I appreciate the feedback, 262 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,440 and I will definitely take it back to our team, 263 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,140 and we can discuss that a little further. 264 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:22,880 Thank you. 265 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,460 Thank you. 266 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,540 Yes, never again. 267 00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:28,040 Thank you for the presentation. 268 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:38,720 like a member, Mendi, if he could have said, he mentioned a tram and I do think a tram 269 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,200 would be a very nice addition because of the distance, you wouldn't have to build 270 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:51,460 as many stations, maybe like three or four, I'm not sure, but then I think a tram is a 271 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:57,920 great idea and it would connect nicely into downtown Edward City, but my main question 272 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,360 was how would a bus or a tram, whatever it was built? 273 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,800 How would it connect to the downtown Redwood City? 274 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:08,320 Because I did see some pictures up there. 275 00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:11,940 It was like going down middle field and down the street 276 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:12,460 or whatever. 277 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,100 Yeah, yeah. 278 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,160 That's a great question. 279 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,860 Thank you for that question. 280 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,260 Right now, we've had many design alternatives 281 00:27:20,260 --> 00:27:22,600 that we've come up with. 282 00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:25,420 We've settled on two design alternatives 283 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:27,540 of that we're thinking that we're going to move forward with. 284 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,880 One is to continue down middlefield down to Jefferson. 285 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:37,580 What I believe is what the 295 or 296 currently does. 286 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:41,940 And the other one is to take a right on the wood side 287 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,600 and then take the off ramp onto ECR 288 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,360 and then make it to the Redwood City's transit center. 289 00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:59,200 Those are good routes, but maybe one you could look into is down middle field where the 290 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,320 296 is already, but instead of turning down Jefferson, it goes to, I forgot what the 291 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:10,980 street's called, but it goes down on the, where the current EPX bus stop is, it's like 292 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:17,540 a different from the bus bay transit center, but it's, I don't think it's that crazy if 293 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:24,280 an idea to have the bus go there and people just cross the tracks to transfer but I think 294 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,460 it would be much simpler not going down under the tracks on Jefferson turning on El Camino 295 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:33,980 and all that. I think just a straight shot and like right next to the train station where 296 00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:34,160 to. 297 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:35,380 Are you thinking Winslow? 298 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:36,040 Yeah. 299 00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:37,800 On Winslow. 300 00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:41,180 I think that's a much simpler and maybe cheaper idea. 301 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,400 Yeah. 302 00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:46,400 We definitely looked at, I can tell you just looking at the team in the back. 303 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,720 We've looked at so many alternatives for this project. 304 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:58,460 I think we even looked at cutting over the CalTrain tracks. 305 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,880 And after talking with CalTrain, we were like, maybe that's not a good idea. 306 00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,420 But that's a great comment. 307 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:08,480 I appreciate that. 308 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,580 And we definitely, I can take that as well back to the team and see if 309 00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:15,200 Winslow's something else that we can look at. 310 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:23,460 I will tell you that we did talk to the Redwood City staff and they really felt that this 311 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:30,560 portion of the community has been really affected by a lot of construction and even more 312 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:37,300 construction on top of that would disproportionately affect how much they've been overcome with 313 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:37,880 construction. 314 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,460 and they're looking down quite a few years 315 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:46,620 with the Cal train station moving to a new location, 316 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240 the whole middle field reconstruction as well. 317 00:29:51,380 --> 00:29:55,760 So we were kind of asked to see if we can stay 318 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,340 on middle field through that outreach with the city. 319 00:29:59,620 --> 00:29:59,980 But again, 320 00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:09,080 I'll take it back to our team. All right. Thank you. Thanks. Do we have any other? Oh, yes. Good. Okay. 321 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Massive thanks for providing us with such informative presentations. So my main question is, 322 00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:23,240 is that like, let's say this plan actually goes into effect and the Dumbarton corridor is actually 323 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,780 turned into a bus lane. 324 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,760 I want to know what are the steps or what are the, how far 325 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,760 are you guys going to go to treat it as a, like making sure 326 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,860 that buses run really smoothly, almost like if it 327 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:42,260 weren't actual rail lines. 328 00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:47,400 So just to elaborate, so are you going to put, like, 329 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,760 are you going to do any protection at their crossing? 330 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:59,420 Sorry, at their crossings at where the busway intersects roads because not the entire line 331 00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:02,640 is segregated or is above grade levels. 332 00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:09,840 So I want to bring in the example in Miami, Florida where they also had like a similar 333 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:18,160 circumstance where they repurposed an old Florida east coast railway right away into a bus 334 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:24,880 wrapper transit corridor and what they did at the intersections was that they installed railroad 335 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:32,720 grade train crossings like crossings that you will see meant for a railway but instead it's for 336 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:41,380 a bus corridor so yeah and then I also want to bring in like an example from the UK actually because 337 00:31:41,380 --> 00:31:50,180 because their busways are also repurposed from long gone rail corridors and to ensure that 338 00:31:50,180 --> 00:32:03,100 like the corridor is fully exclusive for bus service, they actually dug like little rectangular 339 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:10,700 holes at each entrance to which the bus lane crosses a normal road intersection. 340 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:23,540 So what it does is that the cars, if they try to get on the busway, their wheels will fall into that little ditch, so they can't go any further. 341 00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:37,420 And then they also, not experienced, they also implemented smart like movable ballards, so they are programmed to detect any transit vehicle. 342 00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:43,640 but they will not budge if a normal civilian vehicle tries to activate them. 343 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:50,880 So yeah, just to bring everything back together, just want to know how far you guys 344 00:32:50,880 --> 00:33:01,360 going to go to make sure that this bus corridor will be as smooth and seamless as a rail corridor, 345 00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:05,540 because I feel like that is ideally what you guys should aim for. 346 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:19,540 I really appreciate that question. We're looking at exactly what you mentioned in the Miami example and everything else. I'm going to actually go and look up the UK example you just gave us because the 347 00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:26,240 vehicle possibility of a vehicle entering the busway is something that could be highly probable right. 348 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:38,240 We've even seen it on our cow trains right away so yeah we're going to be looking into everything 349 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:46,080 and anything that can help us safely cross pedestrians, bicyclists, and our buses safely. 350 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:52,580 And it will take a lot of work, it would take, like you were saying, the actual railroad crossing 351 00:33:52,580 --> 00:34:01,780 type of gates at all the intersections, even signage, maybe even lights, but yeah, that's 352 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:06,160 something that we're definitely going to be looking into and trying to have the best 353 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:13,620 possible examples that we can use on this corridor, and I really appreciate that question. 354 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,420 Thank you. Any other comments? 355 00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:19,840 Yes, good. 356 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,380 Since you've heard a lot of things tonight, I just do want to reiterate my comment about 357 00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:32,300 how much more useful this would be as a rail line that goes not just from Redwood City 358 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:36,860 to East Palo, it's about across the bridge and connects to the other rail projects being 359 00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:44,740 worked on in the East Bay such as the East Project to bring their trends to Fremont and 360 00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:50,140 Union City and they've mentioned that they hope to bring it across the bridge if it's 361 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:55,960 ever possible and no capital order so we can on some purchaser but like I said, when 362 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,480 The big tech companies that we're going to fund that pulled out 363 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:29,600 And I think if Sam Trance attempted to bring them back to the table for a rail project, it could be possible. So all I'm asking is for Sam Trance to make attempts to bring them back to the rail table for a rail project before finalizing the selected busway project and those sorts of things. Thank you. I appreciate the comment. Thank you. And then I just have one suggestion. 364 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:42,880 I know that I think they're trying to add bus lanes to the Bayfront Expressway between the bridge and University Avenue and the end of this corridor would be at University Avenue. 365 00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:58,440 And so I think it would be incredible just a small extension to the project would be painting bus lanes and University Avenue from the Dunbarton corridor to the Bayfront Expressway, which would only be like half a mile or something. 366 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,720 and it seems like looking at the map, 367 00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:02,460 there's like shoulder space available, 368 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480 so maybe we could just run them on the shoulder or something, 369 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,540 but if we could just have the bus, 370 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:08,540 I'm thinking of the Dunbarton Express, 371 00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:09,500 which goes over the bridge. 372 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,380 If we could have them kind of jump that queue of traffic, 373 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,320 that forms in the morning, trying to get, 374 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,340 or sorry, in the afternoon, trying to get on to the bridge, 375 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,160 you probably really only have to put them on the side 376 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,140 that is turning on to the bridge. 377 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,240 I don't think there's as much traffic on the other side, 378 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,360 but yeah, if we could just have the bus lane 379 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,560 there, then they would have a continuous corridor while not on the bridge, but they'd have the bus lanes 380 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,780 that are from the bridge to university avenue. They could turn on to the bus lanes and university 381 00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:42,760 avenue, and then they could enter the the Dunbarton busway all the way to Redwood City, which I think 382 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,700 would be incredible for the Dunbarton Express service, which I know we don't run, but they could 383 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:53,320 also be a great user of this. So yeah, that would be really awesome, but yeah, just that comment, 384 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,460 And yeah, really appreciate the presentation. 385 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,660 And yeah, especially I think the walking and cycle track 386 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:02,760 looks really incredible for mobility along the corridor as well. 387 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:03,800 So yeah, thank you. 388 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,620 Thank you. 389 00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:06,560 We talked to that project team. 390 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,060 And I believe they're thinking of using Winslow instead 391 00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:10,700 of university. 392 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:15,680 And we're actually looking at some sort of stop 393 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,960 at the Winslow Dunbarton corridor area where folks can 394 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:22,200 get on and off and use boats. 395 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,200 Oh, okay, yeah, that would also be, yeah, that's a much closer connection, yeah, that would 396 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,820 also be great. 397 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,340 Yeah, even if they could just transfer on to the Dunbarton bus, that would be really great. 398 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,240 Okay, well, yeah, thank you so much for looking into that. 399 00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:35,440 Okay. 400 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,840 Yeah, thanks so much for the presentation. 401 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:37,920 Thank you. 402 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,120 All right. 403 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,020 And then we can go ahead and move on to item number six, which is our staff report. 404 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,760 Good evening, everyone. 405 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,660 I'm not a reverse director of bus transportation. 406 00:37:56,420 --> 00:38:02,060 Thank you for those who joined us this past Saturday and attended the 50th anniversary. 407 00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:06,500 I think it was really fun and it was really nice to see some familiar faces there. 408 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,140 I'm going to be presenting or sharing the July 2026 staff report. 409 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:21,460 As far as ridership, we did ridership across all four modes increased by 0.7%. 410 00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:25,120 July 2026 compared to July 2025. 411 00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:31,300 And that's where monthly ridership increased 0.4% compared to the same months. 412 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:37,340 We have informative ridership information now and I will be continuing reporting it. 413 00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:43,640 And they also have a retroactively information available if you're interested as well. 414 00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:46,480 For the months that we did not report the ridership. 415 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,900 Regarding keep performance indicator, indicators I have phenomenal use. 416 00:38:53,380 --> 00:39:01,840 The month of July 2026, we exceeded the miles between preventable accidents, reaching 135,000 miles, 417 00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:06,520 and 135, 243,000 miles between preventable accidents. 418 00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:15,660 The goals to have 100,000 miles, so we were above the goal, including contract services and 419 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:18,700 and direct operated services. 420 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:25,080 Another good, keep performance indicator, D&O's. 421 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:28,060 We had zero D&O's for the month. 422 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:34,640 Imagine we operate approximately 50,000 schedules per month. 423 00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:39,740 So that's 50,000 opportunities to have, to make a mistake or an opportunity to get sick, 424 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,780 or to have an accident and not have a bus to replace the schedule. 425 00:39:44,780 --> 00:39:48,620 So we have zero DNOs, so I'm very proud of the team for 426 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:56,980 working and going up and beyond to make sure that we provide the service that we promised our customers. 427 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,940 Another good statistic on time. 428 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,580 The candidates or staff got a coffee and donuts in the morning, and of course, our appreciation. 429 00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:11,640 As far as miles between preventable access, I'm sorry, miles between service schools. 430 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,220 The goal is to have 25,000 miles between service schools. 431 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:22,740 We unfortunately did not meet the goal, with 21,891 miles between preventable accidents. 432 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,280 However, the diesel operator fleet did meet the goal. 433 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,340 with 27,676 miles between preventable, between service goals. 434 00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:44,220 Our safety campaign focused on stay, the message was stay away, stay aware, stay clear to prevent the preventable. 435 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:50,860 Our prayers are reminded to remind an alert, use extra caution to address recurring safety concerns, 436 00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:56,900 concerns such as the right-side clearance, safe following distance, and pass on your boarding. 437 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,640 Operators are asked to take an extra moment to verify clearance before closing the doors. 438 00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:09,620 And take a brief pause to help prevent injuries in a boy and safe door closures. 439 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:13,040 This was based on observed trends. 440 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:19,920 We're going to have a tour in November and I will be happy to share a little bit more of 441 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,340 the initiatives and campaigns that we have going on, 442 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,180 but we just instituted a new initiative. 443 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,760 We have a soft dash cam 444 00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:33,280 which captures operators performance 445 00:41:33,850 --> 00:41:36,840 and based on this triggering events that we observe, 446 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,980 we use that information to focus 447 00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:42,820 on the safety campaigns on the behaviors 448 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:45,800 and we have seen a lot of progress. 449 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,080 So I'll be happy to give you more technical information 450 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,440 and share you a few clips when we have our tour. 451 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,940 For employee recognition, the operator of the month was Ching-Kan Lee. 452 00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,860 This was for the Ford Nord Base and Charles Bullyu from South Base. 453 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,340 And the maintenance employees of the month were Luke Kong from Nord Base and 454 00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:16,480 Jorge Reyes from South Base, both utility workers. 455 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:23,500 the staff that helps us keep the buses clean and filled. 456 00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:28,140 And lastly, I have a public announcement that CAC oversight committee, 457 00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:33,300 which oversees and measures W tax proceeds to ensure funds are spent accordingly 458 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:40,500 per what voters plan for, has an opening specifically for CAC members. 459 00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:43,180 We invite you to check the website. 460 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:50,020 It's on our semifinals website and we encourage you to take part of that committee as well. 461 00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:54,640 And that concludes my report and I'm happy to answer any questions. 462 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,620 Thank you very much. 463 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:58,900 Do we have any public comments on that? 464 00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:00,320 There are no public comments. 465 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,880 All right, oh yes, my room is ready. 466 00:43:03,820 --> 00:43:15,380 That's a great question, could we have any information for August and September? 467 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:17,200 For what? 468 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:17,600 I'm sorry? 469 00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:20,060 For August. 470 00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:29,040 Oh, the reason why we present a month before is because we first present the first information 471 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,740 available to the board and unfortunately the board meetings take place right at the beginning 472 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:39,940 of the month and the CDC take place at the end of the month so we're always going to be a 473 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:45,400 month behind because the board members are the first ones to get fresh and new information. 474 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:51,680 That's why it sounds like we're a little behind but this is the same information I presented to 475 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:59,800 the board early this month. Thank you and thank you. Of course, we're going to the dashboard. 476 00:44:00,940 --> 00:44:16,320 Is it always have a camera for buses and in how I remember it depends. It has been 477 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:24,700 and use a nest as a complaint, right, but now it's changed. 478 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:31,040 Well, the buses already have about 11 cameras in total, 479 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,720 and that system is continued to be used for investigations, 480 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,480 for clear complaints or investigating claims, 481 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:43,540 and that continues to be the protocol. 482 00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:53,440 So, what Bashcam does is, it's a system that is placed directly capturing the offer's 483 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:59,920 behavior and the traffic around it, but it has an artificial intelligence component. 484 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,640 Opponent, which measures speed, geophorses, and based on those calculations and data, creates trigger events. And those trigger events are very short, seven-second clip that is video clip that is sent to our team, and our team observed said. And I'm going to share like a basic one, let's say, the trigger event captures a rolling stop. 485 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:34,860 and thus fail to make a complete step at a staff's signal. 486 00:45:35,740 --> 00:45:39,660 We will get a video and then we take that as an opportunity 487 00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:42,160 to talk to an operator and say, hey, you know what? 488 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,880 I know you're always busy and I know there's a lot of things 489 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,260 that you have to focus on, but this is important. 490 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,960 It's not only a sound trans rule, but it's a policy. 491 00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:01,360 It's a D&B California D&B section, something violation. 492 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,160 But we take it as a coaching opportunity, rather, to penalize an operator. 493 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,880 If they need training, we will send them to training. 494 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:18,700 And the reason why I mentioned it with our safety campaigns is if we see a large amount of specific triggering events, 495 00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:24,820 like in this case are rolling stuff we will focus our safety campaign in general to address this. 496 00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:32,860 So even it's on the whole time but it's not capturing footage the whole time and only captures 497 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:40,840 video when there's a triggering event or a safety triggering event. Thank you. I probably share 498 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,520 a little bit more than last far. 499 00:46:43,460 --> 00:46:44,080 Thank you. 500 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:45,820 Thank you. 501 00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:47,860 Member Ribbonage. 502 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:55,300 I do just want to follow up on the earlier comment about the reports being very late. 503 00:46:56,620 --> 00:47:01,520 Obviously you can't produce the September report which the board will get since the month isn't over. 504 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:09,620 But since August was 30 days ago and sometimes we meet on the 24th sometimes. 505 00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:21,100 and not the 30th, but is it possible to get the report from the last month that the board will get out a little early so that we could get the most latest information to? 506 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:32,760 So like right now I'm reporting what was reported to in the last board meeting, that information's already available as part of the minutes of the board meeting. 507 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:39,020 I just don't, I always want to, we, the district wants to present that newest information 508 00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:42,920 first to the board and then to the subcommittees or committees. 509 00:47:43,820 --> 00:47:47,820 But if there's like something specific that you're at, I wouldn't have data because 510 00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:53,640 we have to close the whole month and sometimes it takes a little bit like a couple of weeks 511 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,500 to gather like ridership or information like that. 512 00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:03,540 But if you want something specific, I'll be happy to share and my report. 513 00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:08,220 Thank you. Any other comments? 514 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:11,000 All right. Oh yeah. 515 00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:19,600 Actually, really quickly about the cameras, this is not meant to be like a 516 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,900 Cusetory, but I was just thinking about it from like a bus operator's perspective. 517 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:27,160 And now like they have this new camera that's always watching them and judging their every move. 518 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:36,760 And I was wondering if you like consulted with the operators, like the operators union about this like before and still in the cameras and if they had thoughts absolutely yes, we've been 519 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,600 collaborating with the union from the beginning. 520 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,380 It was very important to us to keep them informed. 521 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:54,740 We have a task force formed with operators representing not only the union president and secretary, but also operators representing each base. 522 00:48:54,740 --> 00:49:01,440 And I think the more information operators have, the more comfortable they feel. 523 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:09,380 And again, just sharing the goal of this, I mean, it's really just to help them, help 524 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:15,720 them help us improve our safety goal. 525 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:23,640 And I feel like what I have done personally to make sure they feel comfortable is continuously 526 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,220 usually sharing the message whenever there's anything new. 527 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:28,540 I will share, well, this week we have this, 528 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,740 That means that, or just to make them feel like he's knowing that we don't have staff like just dedicated to be looking at the cameras, we just specifically look at the trigger events. And we don't do not use the software, the information, the data for anything else because we do have the other cameras that are also present. And they have been for many years. Thank you to dinner operators involved. 529 00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:41,200 Thank you. All right. With that, I think we can move on to item number seven, which is the report of the chair. I have no report this month. 530 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:56,080 So we can move on to item number eight. So at the last board meeting, I think one fun thing they talked about was transit month, which it is no longer or no, it is still transit month today. So yes, that's great for a little bit longer. 531 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:06,480 I'm always good to celebrate that and then, okay, we can go ahead and move on to item number nine, which is CAC member requesting comments. 532 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,360 Do we have any requests or comments? Yes, member Ganner. 533 00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:21,440 Hello. Today, I just came back from a trip from New York and I came at a bad time and there's no bar trains to celebrate. 534 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,480 So I had to get on Sam Trance, which is great. 535 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:26,480 I love Sam Trance. 536 00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:31,160 And I had to find my way as in Terminal 3. 537 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,660 I had to find my way to the bus stop 538 00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:34,520 to go towards Hillsdale. 539 00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:36,420 Then I could get my Cal train. 540 00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:39,200 But to find a bus stop, it was a little difficult 541 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,380 because you're doing some renovation at the airport. 542 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:44,560 But even without the renovation, 543 00:51:44,740 --> 00:51:45,780 I think it would be really difficult. 544 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,640 And once I found the bus stop, it was in like a respectfully 545 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,860 a terrible condition, like there's a bench, it's very dark, there's a sign that has only 546 00:51:56,860 --> 00:51:58,720 the routes and- 547 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,260 It did not remember exactly where the couple stopped. 548 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,320 Terminal three underground going towards Hillsdale. 549 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,620 But I think it's the same for all the bus stops in the airport. 550 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,440 They're all very dark and out of the way. 551 00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:23,420 Maybe we could figure out something along the bus stop improvement plant. 552 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,520 I don't know if it's a part of it, the airport that it should be. 553 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,220 But maybe if you're like a traveler from a different country, 554 00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:36,160 you're trying to find, you're using Google Maps, it says to take this bus. 555 00:52:36,540 --> 00:52:39,240 You're like, okay, I'll take the bus, but I don't know where it is. 556 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,960 No one knows, no one takes the bus. 557 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:47,580 So you follow the signs, and it's not very good signage. 558 00:52:47,580 --> 00:52:54,620 signage like I could figure it out but if I was a tourist I might not be able to figure it out and the bus stop 559 00:52:54,620 --> 00:53:02,920 It's only a sign and a little chair. I think maybe the airport deserves a little better like maybe a little shelter 560 00:53:04,420 --> 00:53:10,000 And more lights and more information because especially there's a lot of tourists at the airport 561 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,800 So I think more information would be really really helpful at all the airport stops 562 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:15,860 Yes. 563 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:16,780 Yeah. 564 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:17,260 Thank you. 565 00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:18,080 Thank you. 566 00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:19,060 I took note. 567 00:53:19,140 --> 00:53:27,220 We partnered with SFO to make sure that way findings are something that it's hopefully 568 00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:32,980 like something intuitive for tourists to follow regardless of what language they speak, but 569 00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:39,080 we'll check with them and make sure that we collaborate and find ways to make it to improve 570 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:39,260 it. 571 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:47,060 Yeah, thank you, but maybe also the entire not only Sam Trans, but for CalTrain and BART. 572 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,160 All the public transit at the airport could be under a big new program partnered with 573 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,880 the airport and all the public transit agencies where they could all have a simplified way 574 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,280 finding. 575 00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:07,060 So like the sign is like gates here, gates here, exit here, and then the next sign is it's 576 00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:12,540 All in blue for public transport, and this is CalTrain, CalTrain go that way. 577 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,080 And it's sorry, it's much simpler. 578 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,720 Make it partner up with the airport to make it much simpler for a bigger project. 579 00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:21,520 Maybe, thank you. 580 00:54:23,740 --> 00:54:25,920 Thank you, any, oh yes, memory minute. 581 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,080 Before I had a few things, I wanted to comment, but 582 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,640 you want to just elaborate with the airport we're finding last Sunday. 583 00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:36,620 I was at the airport trying to take part. 584 00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:42,640 from Davis City to Milbury, there was some sort of bar construction on the 585 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,380 track from the airport to Milbury and all the trains were delayed and not on 586 00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:51,820 schedule so I decided that I would take same trains which I've done from the 587 00:54:51,820 --> 00:54:57,960 airport many times and I do remember there's a stairwell to go down and there are 588 00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,980 signs that say buses to sams 589 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:13,200 Free of where that stairwell is, there's no signage, ended up giving up and finding an elevator, but by the time I got down there, I had missed the bus. So I didn't go back to bar, which was delayed, and I ended up missing countering. 590 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:29,980 For the comments I didn't wanted to make. So, first last Saturday was the celebration for San Francisco 50th birthday. San Francisco put on a really good event. 591 00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:37,100 And I think I want to thank everyone on Samtran staff who helped to put it together. 592 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,700 I do also want to mention that on Sunday I went to a transit month event 593 00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:53,160 and they'll from daily city to Pacifica where Samtran ended up sending an extra operator and a supervisor 594 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,800 because the amount of people at the event was large. 595 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:06,260 So operator 1345, who was not scheduled to drive the 110 to Pacifica, ended up coming 596 00:56:06,260 --> 00:56:13,440 in an articulated bust for everyone, taking time out of their day, which they could have 597 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,120 been doing other routes or other parts of their day-to-day responsibilities. 598 00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:23,660 And a supervisor, I didn't catch their number, but name, but I think you might be able to 599 00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:31,300 find that. I do know I'm not sure if it's the same now but when I got my orientation 600 00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:40,820 a few years ago, I was told that we could ask for you to go and give commendations in 601 00:56:40,820 --> 00:56:47,920 front of everyone their base to thank them. If that's possible, that would be great. 602 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,760 Absolutely, and I appreciate that you take the time to do this. 603 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:57,820 We have a few ways so we can command our operators. 604 00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:04,480 One of the, that might preferred one, well, there's the official one which is the employee 605 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,060 of the month. 606 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,080 They get chosen based on nominations, so this definitely will go towards the operator. 607 00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:17,160 The second one, like you mentioned, we call it like that I make a difference award, and 608 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:25,020 And this is where the team, myself, my team get together and go in the middle of a route 609 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,500 in the middle of, in front of all the customers and surprise an operator. 610 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,620 When they see all the district vehicles around, they get a little scared, they think they 611 00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:40,220 are in trouble, but we get to the bus and celebrate them and share with the customers the 612 00:57:40,220 --> 00:57:44,140 reason why we're making, we give in the upper and I make a difference award. 613 00:57:44,140 --> 00:57:51,240 So I'll be I'll make sure that we pass that thank you very much and I also want to give credit to the deputy director here 614 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:58,020 Henry Silva's he helped me put together the service augmentation for for that event. 615 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,420 Thank you. 616 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:14,000 I do have one more comment. I've already commented on this before but once again it is very ridiculous how Sam 617 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:20,520 spend millions, hundreds of millions, not billions of dollars, and isn't even done spending 618 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,560 them since they haven't acquired the building, but to build this space out and for us to 619 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:33,060 come here and instead of utilizing the board and CAC desks in, I guess, area. 620 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:40,680 The tables are being pulled out down here last meeting we were told it's an accessibility 621 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:47,040 issue but there's a ramp over there and I do know that at least one of the STEM 622 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:53,100 transport members has mobility issues too. So I'm not sure what the problem is 623 00:58:53,100 --> 00:59:03,660 as to why we can't use that area. Just in the past few months the CAC made a 624 00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:09,220 recommendation to the Board not to restrict public comments from two minutes to 625 00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:11,120 one minute, the board didn't listen to us. 626 00:59:11,620 --> 00:59:14,360 We asked for the board to consult as before renaming us. 627 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:18,420 We were not consulted and if anyone hasn't noticed 628 00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:20,160 where the community advisory committee, 629 00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:26,880 so at times it feels like we come here every month and vain 630 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:31,560 and we are not even given the chance to sit 631 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,660 in the normal area. 632 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,900 So is there any way we can be moved back up to that area 633 00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:43,740 because the first meeting we spent here, I believe in June, we were up there. 634 00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:47,960 Obviously, the CAC isn't a stranger to weird setups. 635 00:59:48,620 --> 00:59:54,200 I'm sure everyone remembers San Carlos, where that board room was very outdated, 636 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,000 so setup was confusing. 637 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,980 But this is a brand new board room that I guess... 638 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,080 Just bill. So, why not have the CAC sit on the purpose bill area? 639 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:29,360 Noted and I will pass the comment. I just want to say, personally, and then in behalf of the district, we we do appreciate and your time is not in vain. We appreciate your input. I chair with you earlier. You are our eyes and ears. And then permission you provide here. We put in practice immediately. So we do appreciate your. 640 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,660 your participation. 641 01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:34,270 Thank you for those comments. 642 01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:36,130 Do we have any other comments? 643 01:00:36,550 --> 01:00:36,810 Yes. 644 01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:44,000 So I have some feedback from my eyes and ears. 645 01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:47,220 That I have noticed recently. 646 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,660 I know that all at first I wanted to thank you for 647 01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:55,780 and for all of the for following up about the concern 648 01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,240 on Route 16 the afternoon. 649 01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,980 It's amazing that was 650 01:00:59,980 --> 01:01:02,580 brought to planning staff. 651 01:01:02,580 --> 01:01:04,060 Thank you so much for doing that. 652 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,280 It's hard as high school students for a voice 653 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,220 to get through to the people who make the changes. 654 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,120 So I appreciate you doing that. 655 01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:16,640 Thank you, November 15th. 656 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:16,900 Awesome. 657 01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:25,700 I and the survey that Trozi added about free youth fairs, 658 01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:29,000 I did share that, and I wanted to, 659 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,960 I'm not technically like the target audience of that survey but I still have some thoughts 660 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,180 about free youth fairs and I articulate them. 661 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:46,420 I think free youth fairs for all or a much more lenient free youth fair service would 662 01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:52,180 be the ideal outcome for youth fairs for many reasons. 663 01:01:54,980 --> 01:02:01,160 The biggest reason that I have seen is that the Clipper readers are very slow. 664 01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:08,060 At my bus stop there are 8-9 kids that board the bus, and the bus sits there for 50 seconds 665 01:02:08,060 --> 01:02:14,020 to a minute loading all of those kids, and over all the stops in that route that can add 666 01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:20,500 several minutes of delays, and I just wanted to reiterate that for the bus, like the biggest 667 01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:27,180 part of the experience is the schedule. So, if the schedule is slow, then students will 668 01:02:27,180 --> 01:02:33,900 be much less likely to write. So, if we can be doing stuff like making not forcing everybody 669 01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:38,980 to tag on or, for example, allowing all door boarding to reduce the amount of time it 670 01:02:38,980 --> 01:02:44,600 takes to load the bus, I think that would be a great fix. This would also like, I can free 671 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:50,960 youth affairs for all would also remove like hoops that lower income families might have 672 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,220 to jump through with paperwork and just make it easy. That's what the California did 673 01:02:55,220 --> 01:03:01,440 with free lunches. And it's also in San Francisco it was proven to reduce school true and 674 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,120 theory rights. I'm just spitting facts now. 675 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:09,740 And so that's what my concept for youth affairs. 676 01:03:09,740 --> 01:03:15,040 and then I also have a structural suggestion, 677 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,440 a sort of long term for school routes. 678 01:03:17,780 --> 01:03:21,240 This is kind of when Sam Trance is next planning 679 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,040 to revamp and reconsider throughout, 680 01:03:24,220 --> 01:03:28,670 I would ask Sam Trance to consider adding 681 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,360 or splitting existing routes that have multiple trips 682 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,420 on them into distinct routes that have more direct service 683 01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:45,100 rather than the circuitous routes we have now which would ensure better coverage and more 684 01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:48,600 direct trips which again would make the trips quicker for students and make students more 685 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:54,740 likely to take the bus and ensuring that you don't need to send multiple buses back 686 01:03:54,740 --> 01:03:59,260 to back in order to provide enough capacity on the routes. 687 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:06,680 So again, I have a very St. Carlos Belmont mine because that's where I spend most of my time. 688 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:15,340 But examples of these could be splitting route 62 into a route that goes directly to the 689 01:04:15,340 --> 01:04:19,620 Belmont Hills without doing the Ralston those school detour, and one that goes straight 690 01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:24,520 up Ralston, or splitting route 60 into a route that serves other shores and then goes on Ralston, 691 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,360 or route that serves other shores and goes on St. Carlos Avenue to Carlisle. 692 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:39,500 And I have some words to the feedback about Route 61, but I can send you an email about that so I don't waste every once in a while. 693 01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:41,020 Thank you. 694 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:52,520 We are going to have a comprehensive strategic plan coming up in a couple of years so I'm sure that we'll revisit that those options as a possibility. 695 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,360 Thank you. 696 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,980 Thank you. Do we have? Yes, go ahead. Okay. Um, so I just want to bring. 697 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:16,300 One of my classmates I've been having. So he's a, he's a pretty average Sam trans bus rider. And his issue is, is that his local bus stop, I believe it's called Norfolk and Laughty on the 250. 698 01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:26,640 He had accounts of when the bus drivers will occasionally miss his stop, even though he was waiting there. 699 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:35,500 So, personally, I don't know that area of San Mateo very well, but looking on Street View, 700 01:05:35,820 --> 01:05:45,360 I saw that the Norfolk and Laudie stop is, I don't know, I can't say for sure if from 701 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:52,780 a bus driver's perspective, but it is somewhat, I guess, not really exposed that well. 702 01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:59,740 and like because North Folk is interesting because you've got parked cars. 703 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,320 So cross street again, North Folk and what? 704 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,040 North Folk and body, L-O-D-I, L-O-D-I, sorry. 705 01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:20,700 So yeah, maybe if this issue keeps on persisting, then I wish that Sam Trance can investigate 706 01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:30,600 into this and if proven to be proven to be true, I hope that measures can be taken 707 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:37,800 such as like painting a bus bay or like installing shelters over there just 708 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,460 to make the stop more viewable from a bus driver's perspective. 709 01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:50,460 so yeah. Thank you. It would be very helpful to me if you if your friend can 710 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:57,960 provide like a time our bus number so that we can address it with the 711 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,520 operators. Sometimes we have like right now we have a brand new class that 712 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:06,260 just graduated and they're a little unfamiliar with their routes sometimes and 713 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:13,360 again not to get anybody on trouble but just to review data videos and and then 714 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,180 and give them some coaching or additional training 715 01:07:16,180 --> 01:07:18,080 to make sure that they're familiar, 716 01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:21,520 route familiarization so that I was a driver 717 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,900 and I remember missing stuff. 718 01:07:23,060 --> 01:07:26,180 So it's sometimes, and I know this area is very, very crowded. 719 01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:31,960 If it was unintentional, we can do something to correct it. 720 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,860 And if it's intentional, 721 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,940 we're in the business of picking up customers 722 01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:39,620 so definitely we'll take action. 723 01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,340 But more detail in for in general, 724 01:07:42,340 --> 01:07:50,800 I will ask supervisors to take a look, but it's specific details would help me a lot in the future. 725 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,380 Thank you. Yes. 726 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,720 I don't know if you can see online participants. 727 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,660 Oh, sorry, could a member of Benavish go real quick and then you can go. 728 01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:04,980 Member Monick. 729 01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:07,960 I've talked a lot tonight. 730 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:14,140 I do want to echo the earlier comments about free and reduced bus fares for youth. 731 01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:22,420 I consistently find this study on my phone safe somewhere and then the next day I need to find it again. 732 01:08:22,660 --> 01:08:29,900 I can't find it, but if I find it, I will send it to the secretary, so everyone will be able to read it. 733 01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:31,860 But there was a study conducted. 734 01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:39,860 I believe over a year ago by the SFMTA Youth Transit Advisory Board that found that a lot of 735 01:08:39,860 --> 01:08:46,000 munis youth riders are riders because of free fairs and another finding that they found was 736 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:52,140 that some of the adult riders were riders because of free fairs since when they were younger, 737 01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:59,340 they were able to just get on the buses, go anywhere they wanted to and that kind of made it convenient 738 01:08:59,340 --> 01:09:03,480 in and easy for them to learn how to use the buses. So by the time they had to pay 739 01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:09,800 fairs, it paid off for the agency and the end since the agency got more adult writers. 740 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:17,220 I think it would be, we brought this up I think multiple times on the CAC, but it would 741 01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:24,220 be awesome for there to be youth fairs. And I'm assuming that since all the studies go through 742 01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:31,040 the board if we are able to like we're able to make a recommendation for the board to do 743 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:38,960 things. So I do want to at the time make a motion a possible to do the chair because this 744 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:44,180 item is an agenda is we can put on agenda for the next period. I just want to make a motion. 745 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:53,960 I would like to motion for the CAC to recommend that the board the item can't be for 746 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:59,740 discussion since this item isn't a generalize it can't be for discussion I've made 747 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:32,340 Do I need the chair for permission to make a motion? I will defer to the secretary. I'm not sure. If it prompts discussion, we cannot because it's not a agenda item. This is general member. If you'd like to bring it up on a further meeting and then discuss the topic later, we can do that. I'm not sure how I was able to do this. I believe in June. 748 01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:40,840 but I did make a motion and requested another motion to be made for a recommendation to the board. 749 01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:46,240 Would you like to request to discuss this item in a future meeting? 750 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:49,860 I wanted to make a motion then. 751 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:55,140 If anything, actually, we might not have been able to do the one back in June. 752 01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:59,940 I'm thinking actually because you were technically not supposed to discuss things that are not on the agenda. 753 01:11:03,670 --> 01:11:16,390 I was hoping to make a motion to make a recommendation for the board to investigate something, to agenda something in the future rather than have the CAC discuss it. 754 01:11:16,830 --> 01:11:22,430 I know the Brown Act is very confusing at times but I was able to do this in the past. 755 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:32,010 We will have to check and make sure we're in compliance and get back to you and see if we can do the motion next time. 756 01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:34,690 I'll tape it for next meeting then. 757 01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:38,870 Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Sorry for the confusion there. 758 01:11:40,910 --> 01:11:44,790 Okay. I believe member Montner had some comments. 759 01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:51,670 Yeah. Yeah. I know that we did not receive an El Camino Real presentation today, 760 01:11:51,670 --> 01:11:55,150 but I've got a few comments and requests that I'd like to make about it, 761 01:11:55,150 --> 01:12:00,110 which is. I wanted to give positive feedback about the ECR detour 762 01:12:00,110 --> 01:12:03,910 for the segment between 2nd and San Mateo 763 01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:05,830 and the Milbury Transit Station. 764 01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:08,590 Crossing two lanes of traffic on foot 765 01:12:08,590 --> 01:12:10,790 is noticeably safer as a pedestrian 766 01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:14,870 than four, five, or six, or seven lanes of El Camino. 767 01:12:15,130 --> 01:12:19,550 So I would request a presentation on the status 768 01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:23,190 of ECR route health due to this detour, 769 01:12:24,450 --> 01:12:26,670 has ridership been impacted by the change, 770 01:12:26,670 --> 01:12:30,270 change, and then also assessing feasibility of 771 01:12:30,270 --> 01:12:37,350 Milbury as the transit stations in midway point to improve levels service on time performance 772 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:41,610 and frequency, and maybe there are bathrooms for the operators to use. 773 01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:48,230 I think that would be really great, but just a request as far as a presentation for ECRF 774 01:12:48,230 --> 01:12:53,330 since it's something like a quarter or a third of all rides on the San Trans Network. 775 01:12:53,330 --> 01:13:18,130 I wanted to also make another presentation request, but feedback about moments where the bus holds at a scheduled or a rebalancing stop for the schedule where the bus is ahead of schedule. I noticed this on the CR out that will stop the operator of stop the bus at a stop and then will wait for several minutes and I can only assume it's because we're ahead of schedule and it seems like it's always the same stop. 776 01:13:18,130 --> 01:13:28,250 That would be really great to eliminate rider confusion by perhaps issuing an auditory message to the riders. 777 01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:38,350 It's something that operators could do over the microphone, but perhaps this is a, I think it would be a meaningful improvement to the rider experience. 778 01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:41,490 And then that's it. 779 01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:50,410 If I can comment just a little bit on response to the ACR where you're describing it's exactly 780 01:13:50,410 --> 01:13:51,490 what you said. 781 01:13:51,710 --> 01:13:55,950 It's a bus, especially on the ACR with the detour and traffic. 782 01:13:57,630 --> 01:14:11,470 We can't check time points where the operators are supposed to leave a certain time and by 783 01:14:11,470 --> 01:14:14,350 highly penalized by operations. 784 01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:16,390 We cannot avoid being late, 785 01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:19,850 but we can definitely avoid not being ahead of schedule. 786 01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:22,190 So that's why the reason why the operas 787 01:14:22,190 --> 01:14:25,830 dwell a little bit, especially because, as you mentioned, 788 01:14:26,210 --> 01:14:27,710 the ECR is such a long route. 789 01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:31,410 There are certain times where we, in order to balance it, 790 01:14:31,790 --> 01:14:33,530 you have to like, just stop the passing weight 791 01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:36,530 and make sure you leave on time so that we don't bunch up. 792 01:14:37,530 --> 01:14:40,570 But I do agree that the operas should make an announcement. 793 01:14:40,570 --> 01:14:42,410 we will always remind them to do this. 794 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:47,090 I'm gonna see if our ITS team can do something automatic 795 01:14:47,090 --> 01:14:49,070 where they can just press a button, 796 01:14:49,210 --> 01:14:52,790 so that doesn't have to verbally have to say manually 797 01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:55,830 every time, but I do agree that it's important 798 01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:59,310 for our customers to know why we're stopping it. 799 01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:59,970 This is unnecessary. 800 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,720 Yeah, um, feedback about the UCR detour continuing that just for a moment is that I've noticed bus bunching seems to be less frequent on the UCR route than it was pre detour. So that's another detail I'd be curious to know about the route health with the detour given that the detour is going to be going on for a minimum of two more years. So it's a this is a long standing impact to their route and I think it'd be very interesting to know. 801 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:35,480 So what the impacts have been on ridership and on time performance and delays and schedules 802 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:36,040 and whatnot. 803 01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:36,940 So thank you. 804 01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:42,400 I could add this as an item during our our base tour. 805 01:15:43,020 --> 01:15:47,480 I think that's this operational related and we can be share there. 806 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,720 Oh, thank you very much. 807 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,440 Yeah, I remember the first time when I wrote a bus and they stopped for a long time. 808 01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:54,220 I was very confused. 809 01:15:54,220 --> 01:15:57,520 But yeah, I think they had like an announcement that said it was a time check or something 810 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,060 which was helpful. Yes, I remember, Mejri. 811 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:08,100 I questioned on members of field writers. 812 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:13,620 And this is a clarification question. 813 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,520 It's true that most of... 814 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,900 I do know that San Francisco, 815 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:29,000 So, three-by-money is passed by 816 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,160 supervisors of seven-year-old school 817 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,880 and then they implemented five-minute 818 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,860 so it's that going to likely 819 01:16:42,860 --> 01:16:48,020 the same in seven-year-old school. 820 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,080 Most likely, right? 821 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,460 Can you say that again about something that sufferance is going to be provided? 822 01:16:55,740 --> 01:17:11,480 So I know for a few rides, for an age of 18 and people with disabilities and senior adults, 823 01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:41,280 I'm not sure how SFMTA I believe that's what it is and so I guess the question is 824 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:54,240 that the board of some grants can suggest that to the Board of Secretary of Justice. 825 01:17:54,780 --> 01:18:04,620 So I just curious if you can ask legal and see if... 826 01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:11,020 I think every individual agency has its own policies and their board approves. 827 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:17,900 I know like for some trends we are right now going to perform in a fair study and based on the 828 01:18:17,900 --> 01:18:24,500 fair study results we will recommend something to the board and then it's up to the board to either 829 01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:34,180 approve or not or deny the changes that we're anything related to fairs that we're proposing. 830 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,920 Thank you, any other? Yes, member of the Convention. 831 01:18:40,420 --> 01:18:48,520 Sorry. Just to add to the ECR comments, if we are in a presentation on it, I remember 832 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:54,040 when that change was made. One of the things the public was told was that north of 833 01:18:54,040 --> 01:19:01,120 Millbury, there would be additional service. I've had times where I'm in San Bernard, South 834 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:07,000 San Francisco, and there was one time I would be two hours and then ten buses showed 835 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:17,080 up because they got stuck somewhere along the detour route. I'm wondering how the extra service 836 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:23,060 from Milbury is supposed to work because if there were extra service then I wouldn't have had to wait 837 01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:29,400 two hours. I don't think there we ever said that there was going to be extra service. What happened 838 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,440 Motion project. We would have to be flexible and sometimes in the matter of like minutes have to detour buses. Maybe one of the ones that were affected by one of those last minute changes. But in the last couple of months, it had been very stable. And we're in constant communication with the city and the construction team to get notified ahead of time so that we can inform the customers. 839 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:40,720 and operators, and I don't think that it's as confusing, and I have heard very good positive feedback from customers, and operators now that they have a stable round. 840 01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:49,230 The time I had to wait two hours was in August, so not that long ago. 841 01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:59,150 So, I do wonder if I'll stick the 292 EPX 110 ECR all those routes where it's very frequent 842 01:20:59,150 --> 01:21:04,650 and there's a lot of buses if there's an opportunity to have extra service in place. 843 01:21:05,170 --> 01:21:09,850 So, for example, I would do two hours and wonder if there was an opportunity to send a bus 844 01:21:09,850 --> 01:21:15,790 from north base to add extra service north of Milbury so that passengers wouldn't along 845 01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:45,230 I'm very surprised to hear that you waited two hours because we have service every 15 minutes and that would be four buses, I mean eight buses, late, I will have to check and see, but when there are delays or detours, we have an extra board group of operators that are dispatched, we have them sometimes stationed strategically throughout the county. 846 01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:51,350 And we dispatched them to areas where however they can get the fastest to 847 01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:54,190 of this is resources basis. 848 01:21:54,290 --> 01:21:56,450 Sometimes we don't have the resources to do that. 849 01:21:56,710 --> 01:22:00,610 But whenever there are delays we try to do that. 850 01:22:01,030 --> 01:22:03,630 I was tracking the buses on my phone. 851 01:22:03,850 --> 01:22:05,910 They were all stuck kind of in the detour area. 852 01:22:06,370 --> 01:22:10,630 If I find the screenshots and the entire I can send that to you. 853 01:22:11,670 --> 01:22:14,170 Unless there was like a huge unusual accident. 854 01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:20,810 It was I'm not sure what happened there a bunch of buses came at the same time after two hours 855 01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:23,010 So hopefully in the future 856 01:22:23,950 --> 01:22:25,170 That can be mediated 857 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,480 Thank you, all right any other 858 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:31,580 Yes, good 859 01:22:32,540 --> 01:22:39,440 I know it's taking a while, but I'm wondering if I should make my comment now or she or I should go over after meeting and talk to you 860 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:44,790 Am I allowed to do that? Yeah, okay, they wouldn't be like 861 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:48,590 Yeah, breaking the rules of a quorum or whatever. 862 01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:49,550 It wouldn't. 863 01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:49,810 Okay. 864 01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:53,480 All right. 865 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,560 Any other comments? 866 01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:56,040 Oh, yeah. 867 01:22:56,460 --> 01:22:57,180 Yeah. 868 01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,880 Sorry. 869 01:22:59,020 --> 01:22:59,400 Sorry, James. 870 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:07,900 I'm going to make a quick final announcement, which is that the regional transmeasure is going 871 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:11,220 to be on the ballot in November as measure RTM. 872 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:19,400 If it fails, CalTrain abort Muni AC transit could be forced to cut significant amounts of service. 873 01:23:20,020 --> 01:23:23,240 And SamTrans could be facing an operational deficit within the five to ten years. 874 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:29,760 If it passes, then transit service will, all transit service will be preserved. 875 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:38,600 And SamTrans will have, I think, roughly $50 million extra year that they can use to possibly expand.