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Recording in progress.

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Let us stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Call, please.

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Thank you.

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Council Member Cruz.

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Council Member Ponce.

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Council Member Panada.

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Here.

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Vice Mayor Xavier.

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Mayor Pavón Alvarado.

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Here.

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Council Member Ponce and Panada.

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Vice Mayor Xavier.

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And Mayor Pavón Alvarado are all present in.

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Council Chambers.

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Council Member Cruz is absent.

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Thank you.

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Next item. Oral communications? This is a time for comments on any item within the Council's

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subject matter jurisdiction. If such item is not listed on tonight's agenda. The Council

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may not engage in discussion or take action on any item that is not specifically listed

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on the agenda. Your item may be referred to city staff for investigation report or placement

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on a future agenda.

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Persons addressing the council are required to limit their remarks to three minutes unless

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an extension or decrease of time is ordered.

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For in-person comments, speaker forms are available at the rear of the chambers and should

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be submitted to the city clerk before close of oral communications.

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For remote commenters, please use your raise hand feature and Zoom speakers will be called

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Please state your name for the record before beginning your comments.

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We have one oral communication speaker.

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Alexander Sanchez.

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Good

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evening councilmembers.

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My name is Alexander Sanchez and I'm very grateful to have the opportunity to speak with you today.

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I recently graduated from UC Davis with a degree in mechanical engineering.

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And one of the biggest challenges I face after graduating was finding that first opportunity to begin my career in engineering.

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You can work hard in school, earn your degree, and be ready to start your career, but getting

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that first opportunity can still be difficult.

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Employers want experience, but you need someone to give you that first chance to gain it.

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That's where the City of San Pablo and the EDC program made a real difference for me.

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The program, with the program I was connected with Ida Sama who became my mentor and helped

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guide me through the process.

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having some other to help me navigate those first steps after college giving

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the confidence and help me see that there were opportunities available to me. I'm

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very thankful for the time ESM has spent helping me and for the support I

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received through the program. It made me process entering the workforce and made me

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feel less overwhelmed especially when I was trying to figure out how to take the

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next steps with my degree. That opportunity ultimately led me to my current

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position as a project engineer with GSW construction. This is my first job in the engineering

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field, so it means a lot to me. It's my opportunity to finally take what I've learned throughout

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my years at UC Davis and apply to real projects while contributing and learning as an engineer.

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Being able to say that I am now in the working field I studied for is something that I'm

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very proud of, but I also recognize that getting that first opportunity is something that not

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everyone gets so easily. That is why I sincerely thank the city of San Pablo and everyone involved

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in the program for investing in people and creating opportunities like this. Sometimes

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someone has education, motivation and willingness to work hard. They just need someone to open

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that first door. For me, the city helped me open that door. I'm very grateful for the opportunity

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I was given and I'm excited to see where this first step in my career takes me. I hope

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per my education.

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I think I can also show the impact that programs like this have on someone's career and future. Thank you for your time, and I thank the city of San Pavel for believing in programs that help people take the next step. Thank you. Nice. Good job, right? I love hearing that. Next item. Next item, ceremonial matters, proclamations, item number one, file ID, 26-4056,

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Sixth, consider approving and presenting proclamation honoring the life and service of Latonya, L.T. Fisher, city manager.

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Thank you, Madam Clerk.

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Mayor, members of the city council at this time, our protocol ordinance is scheduled a formal presentation on the proclamation honoring the life and service of Latonya Fisher who served as our HR management analyst executive assistant to the city manager.

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and senior admin secretary, among other various administrative positions in the city.

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As we all know, Latanya tragically suddenly passed last month and many of us were able to attend her memorial service this past Saturday, September 5th.

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Tonight in our audience is Derek Fisher, husband of Latanya Fisher, as well as extended family members are here tonight for the City Council to officially present a

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and her life and service to the city of San Pablo.

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I am going to go around the diets and see if anyone wants to say,

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give them a moment.

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I'm going to try to get through this.

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And I know what I'm going to say so that I don't lose my thought process.

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I'm going to talk to, I'm going to take this moment and talk to Latanya directly.

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Latanya, I never thought I would be here speaking about your passing.

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I attended your service on Saturday and the panel was titled, A Life So Beautifully Lived.

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It was such a fitting title, but words cannot fully express just how beautiful you live your life.

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There was filled with people who loved you, care for you, and who will truly miss you.

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It was a service I will never forget a farewell fit for a queen, the queen that you were.

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Your son spoke so eloquently and your husband spoke from the heart.

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The proclamations were inspiring and I found myself wondering, how did you do it?

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How did you,

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how did you do so much for so many,

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your daughter, a mother, a wife, a coworker,

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a friend and so much more to so many people. Your letter to your family and friends was captivating.

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That is a letter I will hold close to my heart because losing you so soon

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hurts and you're absence leaves a void in the lives of so many people.

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I will miss seeing you around City Hall but I know your spirit lives on.

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And so please know that you will never be forgotten.

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And thank you to your family for being here today and for allowing us to celebrate

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and honor your beautiful life, Latanya.

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That's all for me.

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Councilmember Pineda.

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I echo the comments of my colleague here and I want to thank the family for being here

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for joining us.

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I want you to know, I'm sure you may have heard this, this time is already, but Latanya

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with somebody that's truly special, not just to the people that work in this

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building, but to the entire community. I've known Tanya for a number of years

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now, even I remember when I first joined Council, I was 26 years old,

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ready willing and able to, you know, be there for me, offer advice, and she has this

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way of approaching situations, I think she's always been a very critical thinker. She's

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not one that if there's something on her mind she'll find a way to communicate it. I've

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been thankful for all the years that she has just been a light for our city.

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I'm even recalling, you know, we're talking about how do we create and maintain safe working environments, and how do we create a space for people to feel comfortable to share what's on their mind, what's on their heart. And I know she cared very deeply about that. And I know that she created a lot of friendships along the way. And also, I'm very mindful that she has mentored, loved, and supported a lot of people.

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in the years that she's been here and myself included in, she will be deeply missed.

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I'm also thinking about, you know, continued impact.

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Every single one of us, our lives have it in a rich and one way or another

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because we have got a chance to know her, to spend time with her, to share conversations with her,

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to think critically about issues with her.

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And I think that we as individuals, we as a city, we as a community, we will continue

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to find ways to not just uplift her message of like building community and the importance

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of creating and maintaining safe and welcoming environments.

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We always are here to continue that legacy, to always fight for folks, to speak up for folks,

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to defend them, to be a voice for them, and if not be the voice for them, create that

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space for them to have their own and for them to feel comfortable, confident, and empowered.

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My condolences to the family, seriously.

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I know that this is a loss, this is a loss that's impacting all of us, I won't say impact

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that it's impacting, but that's the kind of person that she is, that kind of person

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who makes an impact, who makes waves.

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Thank you to the family for sharing her all these years with us, with this community.

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We are grateful, we appreciate you all, and now we are thankful for all her years of

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service.

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Thank you.

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I was a good friend for many years.

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I keep going over all the memories I have of her, times we've shared, things we've

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talked about, laughs, photos, lots of photos.

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Latanya used to ask me to come to city events and take photos back when I used the camera

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on the phone and I have those photos to cherish.

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I loved everything about Latanya.

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She was absolutely wonderful.

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Everybody working for the city of San Paolo loved Latanya.

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She was such a big part of the city, and we lost her fur to as soon.

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My heart goes out to all of you, Derek, dear to you and Dominic, and the rest of the

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family.

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My heart is with you, and it's all I've been thinking about since Saturday at the

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funeral.

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It's just, you're all amazing people.

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I hope for you.

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I love all of you. I especially

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love Latanya and

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may you have, may you be able to get through this as easily as possible.

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It'll be hard.

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I love you and we cherish Latanya. Thank you.

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So I can't sit here and say that Latanya was my best friend or was my friend or anything

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like that but I can tell you I know that when I first came into council she was the one

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that helped me with the paperwork and her spirit was just so amazing and every event that

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there was for the first two or three years right before COVID she would be part of the

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these events that year after year it was I didn't I never thought it would be better it was always

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She always planned and did the best...

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Halloween events, the best. I mean, she dressed up and she won awards. I mean, she was just such an incredible person. And I always always secretly in awe of her. Right.

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As so many people, I'm sure my

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son died unexpectedly about two years ago. And what

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brought me solace, so just that place where I had to hang my hat, is that I trust God with my life.

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life, and I trust God with my son's life,

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because if he says who he says he is, my son is

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in heaven, and so is Latanya, because she was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful person

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and a beautiful, had a beautiful spirit about her.

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I remember her laughter still.

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my condolences to you and to all the family and I just again just I will

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re-emphasize if we trust that there's a God we have to know that God has the

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ultimate plan for our lives.

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With that said I will read the proclamation

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the city of San Pablo honoring the life and service of Latinia Fisher whereas the

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mayor, members of the council and the staff and citizens of the city of

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San Pablo, profoundly mourned the passing of our esteemed colleague,

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dedicated public servant, and dear friend Latanya Fisher, who passed away

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peacefully, surrounded by her loving family on August 14, 2026. And

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whereas Latanya dedicated her entire 28 year career to serving our

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community as an integral part of the city manager's office, demonstrating unparalleled commitment,

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professional integrity and service since joining the city of San Pablo on September 14, 1998

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as an administrative clerk to end, whereas throughout her nearly three decades of invaluable service,

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Latanya advanced through positions of increasing responsibility, serving as administrative secretary, senior as administrative secretary, executive assistant and management analyst onto her retirement on August 12th, 2026.

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And whereas Latanya was widely recognized as an exceptional, intelligent, reliable, versatile professional who contributed

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it to city operations provided excellent customer service and who would skillfully accomplish

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just about anything she put her mind to and whereas she poured her heart into planning

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city recognitions and celebrations, making others feel valued, honored and special while

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her kindness, mentorship and unwavering spirit, such countless lives throughout San Pablo.

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And whereas while our hearts are having the loss of a true friend and leader, we choose

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to celebrate a legacy of 28 years well spent in service, integrity, and love for this community.

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Now, therefore be proclaimed that

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I mayor Elizabeth Pabón Albrado and the entire San Pablo City Council,

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So hereby extend our deepest condolences and heartfelt sympathy to the family, friends

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and loved ones of Latanya Fischer during this hour of bereavement and be it further proclaimed.

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That we pray that peace, comfort and proud memory of Latanya's incredible life.

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Sorry.

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In 28 year legacy sustained her family in the days ahead and be it finally proclaimed that

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this proclamation be officially read and honored on this day of September 8, 2026, standing

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for ever as a lasting testament to Latanya Fisher's unwavering commitment to public

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And her unblemished integrity and generous human spirit. Her peaceful rest is well deserved, and her profound service to our city will always be remembered.

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I request a moment of silence.

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at this time, if you would like to take a five minute recess, that would be appropriate.

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Councilmember Ponce, here.

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Councilmember Pineda, here.

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Thank you.

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Vice Mayor Xavier, here.

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Mayor Pabón Alvarado, here.

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Councilmember Ponce and Pineda,

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Vice-Mail Xavier and Mayor Pabón Alvarado are all present in Consul Chambers. Consul

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Member Cruz is absent.

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City Manager remarks.

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So I'm going to go ahead and pass on remarks today so we

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can get through to the next agenda. Thank you.

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Consent calendar. The consent calendar includes routine items that are being

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enacted by one motion, there will be no separate discussion of these items.

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If discussion is requested, the item will be removed from the consent calendar and

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considered separately.

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Mayor, would you or any council members like to pull any items for discussion?

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I'll ask my peers.

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Council Member Ponce, no thank you.

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Council Member Pineda, would you like to pull any item?

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No, thank you.

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I don't have any items to pull okay can I get a motion a motion to improve the consent calendar second and just to confirm you may have mentioned it but no public comment no public comments.

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Council Member Ponce, aye.

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Council Member Pineda, aye.

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Vice Mayor Xavier, aye.

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Mayor Pabón Alvarado, aye.

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Motion passes.

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Next item, please.

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Next item.

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Public hearing.

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Item number 22, file ID 26-434.

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Consider adopting resolution of the City Council

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of the City of San Pablo, amending the police services and code enforcement section of the

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city master fee schedule. To establish fees associated with police department and

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Administration of its concealed carry weapon, CCW permit program, city manager? Thank you, ma'am clerk. Mayor

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members of the city council tonight is a scheduled public hearing to consider amending your master fee

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schedule to accommodate the city's new carry and concealed weapon permit program to be administered by our

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San Pablo Police Department, which is being transitioned from the county to local police department.

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So under state law and

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apical regulations tonight, we are moving forward with presenting a fee schedule to be associated with that permit program.

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Much of the details regarding the concealed carry weapons program was presented to our public safety

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Staying committee back on July 22nd and both Mayor Pobono Vorado and Vice Mayor Xavier

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recommended a formal recommendation to the City Council to proceed as scheduled.

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With them, I'm going to go ahead and turn over our formal presentation to Captain laughter

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for the balance of the council.

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Thank you, City Manager and good evening, City Council.

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My apologies for the technical difficulties.

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There we go.

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So under California federal law, it authorizes qualified individuals to obtain a license to

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carry a concealed firearm here in California in through out of the nation.

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So currently, Sam Pablo Residence applying for a CCW license completes this process

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through the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Office.

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This process includes the application review, the applicant interview, the company has a background

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on investigation, firearms qualification,

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and then the issuance of the CCW license.

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Over the last two to three years,

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the sheriff's office has been transitioning

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these duties back to the individual cities

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here in Contra Costa County,

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and we here in San Pablo are the last agency

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to make this transition.

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So what does that mean for your police department

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and your community?

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When it comes to the internal process,

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there's a lot of moving parts involved

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with the Carrier Concealed Weapons Permit process.

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We spent the last almost three months training with the Sheriff's Office and other local agencies that have this program in effect.

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And so we have come up with our own internal workflow process when we receive applications from our community members.

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Having a policy, having an established policy in place is a must and we have worked with our city attorney and

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And we are going to adopt a policy that is very stringent when it comes to CCWs.

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And then the master fee schedule, amending our current master fee schedule to

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add the

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monetary costs involved.

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So as you can see by the master fee schedule on your screens, there's four categories,

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and then there's five subcategories.

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The standard two-year is the most common, this is the application fee for any community

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member within San Pablo proper to apply, and as you can see by the subcategory 250 is

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the initial fee.

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Then it goes down to the issue and the renewal fee, and the renewal fee is in reference to.

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Once they're CCW is close to expiring and they want to renew that, that will be the fee that

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will be charged by the city. The modification fee, that fee is if they want to add a firearm to

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their current CCW permit and they have the qualification done by a third-party vendor, we can add that

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for a small cost. Judicial is exactly what it is. Judges here that live in

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San Pablo that wish to apply for CCW.

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They will apply under the judicial three-year custodial and reserve, custodial is more for county custodial workers and state prison workers that live here in San Pablo. And then the reserve four-year is for reserve police officers who are normally volunteers of the police department or live within our city can apply for a CCW. One thing I like to point out is the gun safety training. This is something that no other agency

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in the county is offering and we hear, understand the great resource that we have next door when it comes to our range.

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So what we want to do is offer four times a year to any San Pablo resident that has a CCW permit

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an option to come and train when it comes to gun safety qualifications and so forth with our staff.

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And we'll offer that four times a year and that would be optional.

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So

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with that, I'm going to hand this over to our city attorney, Brian Hickey.

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Yeah, just to set the rest of the item up.

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So because this is an amendment to the city's master fee schedule by imposing a new fee,

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it is a public hearing.

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So as with our typical public hearing process, you can ask questions now, get some clarifying

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information.

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At some point you need to open a public hearing, take public comment, and then when you close

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that hearing the staff recommendation is to adopt the attached resolution, which establishes

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the new fee.

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So you can either ask some questions now, but if there aren't any clarifying questions

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from the staff presentation, you can go directly to opening the public hearing.

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I do have some clarifying questions, but I'm going to go around the diocese and see if they

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have any questions first. Councilmember Ponce, no, I do not think. Okay, Councilmember Pineda.

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Just for a point of clarification, so the county had this responsibility previously in terms of the County Sheriff's Office, and now it's going on to cities.

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What just had a curiosity when it was being administered or currently asked to be administered by the county.

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I'm assuming those monies that get generated stay within the county in this situation, it would also stay within the city.

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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And

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let's see if I slide first.

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That's on one of your slides.

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And I heard you say about the modification fee.

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So that's if they wanted to add an additional firearm.

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That's correct.

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If they want to add a firearm or they can have up to three firearms on one of the license.

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So a majority of the CCW applicants that we will see or that we will approve will usually

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only have one firearm, but they do have the options of adding two more.

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Got it.

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And I asked this question just out of curiosity.

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I wonder if any other agencies, when they're considering this, if they have the opportunity

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for a gun safety training, I know like for example, just this is an example, like let's say

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you're trying to get the M1 license, the sheriff's office also offer a motorcycle class and

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they give you a discount on your insurance and stuff like that because you participated

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in that training.

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I know that we have that fee here, are we offering or is there any thoughts about maybe in the future offering an opportunity for like a discount for like a renewal or something like that if they participated in the trainings.

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I like that option. Sorry.

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I'm sorry, can you?

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Yeah, so like, so I know like for like less than when I was younger, I wanted to get my M1 license and I did participate in the motorcycle training course with CHP.

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and they're like a because you participated in the program you do get a

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discount when you're trying to get your registration everything like that or was

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it for the insurance or which one it was excuse me and so I'm wondering in this

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situation if somebody they've applied they have gotten approved and less say they

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wanted to participate in the gun safety program what they in the future and

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again if it's not for this maybe it might be fruitful for a future conversation like

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maybe offering a discount on the renewal or something like that because you

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participate in this training and you know we saw with our own eyes that you

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know you're a responsible gun handler. Sure. Now that's a great question and

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it's something that is not on our radar right now and there's several reasons

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for that. This training, this optional training that we're offering, this is us

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moving into our new facility, something that no one in this county offers to

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any of their their community members. So now we want to bring forward and see how it

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goes up, but there's a cost associated with that as well when it comes to staff time, when

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it comes to a range time, when it comes to equipment and ammunition.

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And so forth. It's a pretty large expense. So when we looked at the fee study and doing our

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comprehensive study within the county of how much should we recommend our fees be, we're

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definitely not the highest, but we're not the lowest. But I looked at as cost recovery

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as well, because it's very labor intensive when we do the process. But that's something we

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can look at, but when it comes to qualifications and range safety, every member that applies

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still has to go through a third-party vendor, a DOJ certified third-party vendor to do

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the 16-hour course, and what we're offering is more of a four to six-hour, more of a refresher,

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but it's something that we can definitely keep on our radar.

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No, I get it. Again, I just mentioned that because it's like a good incentive for people to, you know, it's

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responsible handling, you know what I mean? And I feel like everyone could always benefit from a refresher. Hence why even like long

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enforcement, they go through their regular training as well. I just see it as like

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It's not a it's not a terrible program. It's a good program, and I think it's worth encouraging and that might be something to look at for the future, but

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But I understand that we're the remaining city to adopt something like this and I understand

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we have a duty here to make sure that we can do this responsibly well and effectively.

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So just to clarify, sorry, this specific fee is attached to the specific process of individuals

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pursuing a CCW and feedback from the county is, that's about two applications per month

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On average, coming from San Pablo Proper, which you're referring to, we also have thought about.

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So, gun safety training to our community is going to be made available through our community programs,

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community police academy, neighborhood watch groups, business watch.

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So, we'll be doing perpetual community gun safety trainings and offering that to the community outside of this process with individuals pursuing a specific.

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CCW license.

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Yeah, because I could see that, like an education part,

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it's like a store, a firearm in your home.

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You know what I mean?

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If you do have an air home.

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Yeah, we want that information out there.

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Yeah, that's the same.

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And we're going to be using the training facility to get that,

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to get that specific training out to our community.

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No.

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I understand.

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But thank you for the information and the presentation.

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That's all for me.

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Thank you.

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Vice Mayor Xavier.

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I don't have any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I have a couple of questions. Thank you for the presentation.

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For

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this CCW, is this for anyone? You don't have to live here in San Pablo too.

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You do. You have to live in San Pablo in order to...

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Is the San Pablo Police Department?

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Yes. You have to be a San Pablo resident?

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Yes.

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So, part of the process is we verify the address and if the address is outside of our actual city limit,

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We will refer to the other to Richmond or to the other counties or the other cities.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So in order to receive a permit, don't they have to take the gun safety training anyway?

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So this is in addition to what they have already had.

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Exactly.

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That's right.

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I'm going to have to complete a 16-hour DOJ-certified training course that includes a qualification.

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Well, we're offering here is additional training four times a year for CCW permit holders here in San Pablo and eventually branched that out to offering firearms safety training to to all community members eventually.

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But we're still going to be giving for free gun safety training.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And the avenues that you have just.

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Yes.

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So currently we do not have the, we don't have the certification to offer the 16-hour

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course to our community.

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This gun safety is an option if they wanted to receive additional training as a part

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of the CCW process.

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It is not mandatory.

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The mandatory 16-hour component is separate and it is offered through third-party vendors.

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So every other city is sending their applicants to the third party vendors.

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Is there a future where that is something that we could offer and build in, potentially,

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and that's something that we were exploring?

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We just don't currently have that training, the mandatory 16 hour training available right now.

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Right, right, right, right.

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But for our training, 46 hour training would this be also an option for those outside.

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of the people who don't live in South Padua.

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So we don't offer, we don't currently offer.

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Commercial availability for residents to come in, unless you're part of any of our community police academy programs, or

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private watch groups. Right, but in general, most cities are not offering this gun safety training, this additional class.

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Yes. Have you considered maybe offering it outside?

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If we get enough feedback and interest, the thing about,

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and we're learning as we go, the thing about operating a regional training center with a range is there's a lot of liability.

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So the more untrained individuals you bring into your space, the more liability.

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that is something that we would accept, but as we initially open our doors and we're starting to train and learning what goes into it and all the workflow, that is something that we want to put a pin-in, and if it makes sense and we can safely do it in consideration with all the liability, then that's something that we would consider as well.

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We do want to get as much of this information out to the public as possible for anyone

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who would be interested.

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We're going to prioritize our C&Pablo residents, people in our programming, or if they're

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a resident and pursuing CCW through our office.

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Right.

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Right.

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And this, like you said, it might be an option later on, but for very much of it.

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Right.

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Now we're going to keep it contained, make sure that we have all the ducts in the role.

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Right.

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And make sure that the liability doesn't, the liability, the cost of liability insurance

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because that really does increase tremendously for that one more question.

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These fees will go back into the police department general fund or will it come to the general

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fund of the city?

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These fees will come back to the city's general funds.

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To the city, general fund?

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00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:05,130
Right.

455
00:42:05,850 --> 00:42:11,010
So, all fees have to do that, but in the future as we grow this program and as the chief

456
00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:18,150
and his team continues to implement, and we make modification as we go, again, we have

457
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:23,390
to balance the liability risk with the program that we're offering, so obviously, if there's

458
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:29,070
a way to look at these fees and see how much revenue we're generating, then we can revisit

459
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:34,390
how we're programming that into PD programs or any other type of O&M for the facility, because

460
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:41,710
of facility is being considered here as well so okay okay that's it I don't have any further

461
00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:44,630
questions so I

462
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,200
opened this up at 6.53 for public comment no public comment no so then we

463
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:03,500
will close this 6.53 do we have any any more questions anyone okay so

464
00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:07,290
I'll move to a

465
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:07,950
from this item.

466
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:09,290
Thank you.

467
00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:10,750
On second.

468
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,260
Adopt the resolution.

469
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,000
There you go.

470
00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:16,400
Okay.

471
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,860
I lost my thing.

472
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Council member Ponce.

473
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,080
Aye.

474
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,100
Council member Pineda.

475
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:25,380
Aye.

476
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,620
Council member Vice Mayor Xavier.

477
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,340
Aye.

478
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:32,700
Mayor Pabón Alvarado.

479
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:33,360
Aye.

480
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Motion passes.

481
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:35,480
Thank you.

482
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,780
I lost my name.

483
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Okay, next item.

484
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,300
Next item.

485
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,560
All right.

486
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:47,200
Ordinances.

487
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,820
Item number 23.

488
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:54,500
Valid 26-344.

489
00:43:54,900 --> 00:44:00,220
Consider adopting an ordinance of the City Council of the City of San Pablo.

490
00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:08,860
at in chapter 9.60 to the San Pablo Municipal Code establishing the city of

491
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:17,240
San Pablo's review program effective January 1, 2027. I do have one speaker

492
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:22,480
city manager. Thank you ma'am clerk may our members of the city council as you

493
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,220
know for the past two years we have been looking on implementing a comprehensive

494
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:31,300
of coordinate effort to strengthen the city's

495
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:33,880
tent support and housing sustainability framework.

496
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,320
Tonight we are bringing forward a new rent review program

497
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,340
ordinance for your formal consideration.

498
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:45,260
This involves another tier of the rental protections

499
00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:49,120
that the council originally had directed back on your

500
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,860
special city council meeting on July 1, 2025.

501
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:56,620
In addition, we have several other tenant protections programs

502
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:59,820
and services that we have been implementing with Council.

503
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,940
Approval throughout calendar year 2026. And Curing Slaughter Economic Development and Housing Manager will review this with the council on our track record and our continued focus on providing a meaningful, low cost rental tenant protection services to our community. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and turn this over to Karen for formal introduction and overview of our new rent review program. Thank you very much, Matt. Good evening, mayor.

504
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:34,820
and council, the item before you tonight, as Matt mentioned, is expanded tenant protection

505
00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:40,380
specifically the proposed rental review ordinance and program. So, all of you have been

506
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:45,500
made aware of this program, but for the benefit of the public and just to walk you through

507
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:51,720
the details, I'd like to present the slide deck this evening. And so, as Matt mentioned,

508
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:59,560
this is really an ongoing implementation of our tenant support and assistance package. As

509
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,420
As you can see there, we've taken a multi-pronged approach to providing meaningful tenant support

510
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:09,020
and the council has done so with the actions you see that before you, with the mobile

511
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:15,000
home grant assistance program, providing rental housing, counseling and mediation, in addition

512
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,580
to our just calls for eviction and anti-harassment ordinances.

513
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,800
And before you this evening is the final step of this robust program, which is over into review

514
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,140
program.

515
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:36,540
And so the purpose of this program is to provide a transparent public process for review of significant rent increases.

516
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:45,800
We believe that this will provide safe guards for tenants that typically face sometimes excessive rent burdens without any other recourse.

517
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:52,920
It also provides housing stability and promotes housing stability and not going to some more details of how that's the case.

518
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,000
And

519
00:46:56,300 --> 00:47:05,380
the goals of this program and this ordinance are similar to the goals that we've found in other cities where this program has been implemented for numerous years.

520
00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:07,340
And so it's modeled after those cities.

521
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:17,160
And also it's seen seeks to incorporate best practices and clear thresholds in addition to public accessible hearings if it comes to that point.

522
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:24,860
It also follows sort of, you know, what we've been promoting is seeking positive dialogue,

523
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,820
mediation and partnership between housing providers and tenants, and by doing so it balances

524
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,780
the tenant protections with housing provider rights.

525
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:43,080
And so, just want to really cover what's included and what's exempt under our proposed ordinance.

526
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,920
units, and so units that are covered under the rent review ordinance would be all rental

527
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:55,880
or lease units, including duplexes, triplexes, forplexes, multi-family buildings, in addition

528
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:03,020
to rented condominiums, also ADUs, or accessibility dwelling units, mobile homes, and mobile home

529
00:48:03,020 --> 00:48:07,740
space units, and single-family homes that are owned by a real estate investment trust

530
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:14,000
corporation or limited liability company. On the other side you see those units

531
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,460
that are exempt from this ordinance and these are this is consistent with with

532
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:25,420
best practices in terms of recommendations from council legal council. You'll

533
00:48:25,420 --> 00:48:30,620
see here that you know units that are single-family homes units with light

534
00:48:30,620 --> 00:48:35,220
tech or other affordability regulations government-owned or operating units

535
00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:41,760
It's also temporary institutional housing, like nonprofits, hospitals, religious or charitable

536
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,580
purposes.

537
00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:48,900
And so, I want to clearly define for the council as well as the public what's included

538
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,620
in the ordinance and what is not included in the ordinance.

539
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:04,120
And so in terms of what the process would look like, if adopted and when implemented, the

540
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:11,060
The process would basically take place when a rent increase is over 7% within a 12 month

541
00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:11,580
period.

542
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,640
A tenant may request a review or hearing before the neutral board that the council would

543
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,260
appoint, and it provides an opportunity for both parties to present documentation, support

544
00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:30,660
and testimony for why either the rent is proposed to be exceeded or why the tenant feels

545
00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:32,380
like that's not justified.

546
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:33,380
And

547
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,000
in terms of how we'll work is we would have an intake process where the requests

548
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,680
would be received and staff would do a review to see if it's eligible.

549
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:54,800
And then we would have a conciliation meeting basically where parties would come together

550
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,900
and discuss the application and the request.

551
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,620
If that resolves the issue, then basically it's, it's finished, it's done. However, if there is no agreement reached at conciliation, it will move to mediation. And once again, that provides another opportunity for discussion and collaboration to see if some sort of resolution can be, can occur between the two parties. And if that doesn't occur, then there's a public hearing held in front of the rent review board, which would be appointed by the city council.

552
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,000
and that would be a publicly accessible hearing where both parties are invited to participate

553
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,800
and given the opportunity to basically explain their case.

554
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,280
And so these are sort of the timelines that we would be recommending, you know, tenant

555
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,660
files of hearing requests within 30 days, city schedules, the public review process, and then

556
00:50:53,660 --> 00:51:00,480
the board issues the advisory recommendation after review if conciliation and mediation aren't

557
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:00,860
successful.

558
00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:08,610
In terms of the board composition the board we see the best approach

559
00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:13,630
would be to make it a neutral balance board, tenants, homeowners, as well as a

560
00:51:13,630 --> 00:51:18,150
homeowner that doesn't own rental property in the city of San Pablo, and all of

561
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:21,910
those individuals will be appointed by the city council, similar to how you

562
00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:26,030
appoint your planning commission and other committees and commissions. And so it

563
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:31,510
be a brown act regulated board and once again if it be publicly accessible and

564
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:39,350
transparent. However, one key aspect of this program and this ordinance is that if either

565
00:51:39,350 --> 00:51:43,470
party doesn't participate in good faith, then they basically lose the opportunity

566
00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:49,990
to seek the result that they're advocating for. So, if the property owner bails on the

567
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:55,450
median, it doesn't show up, then the tenant basically has the opportunity to have that

568
00:51:55,450 --> 00:52:00,430
rent increase voided. On the flip side, if there's a proposed rental increase, and the

569
00:52:00,430 --> 00:52:06,070
The tenant doesn't appear and doesn't participate in the process, then that rent increase is valid.

570
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:09,630
So it really compels both parties to participate in good faith.

571
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:13,370
Now obviously if there's something unique that happens and

572
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:17,910
something out of the control of either party, staff can take that into consideration, but

573
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:23,590
it does require both of them to really participate and come to the table to have the program work.

574
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:29,290
And that's based on what we've seen in other cities and other best practices where this ordinance is already in place.

575
00:52:29,290 --> 00:52:30,350
And

576
00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:37,870
so just to summarize in terms of the benefits to the city and to the overall community,

577
00:52:38,210 --> 00:52:41,070
it provides protection from significant rent hikes for tenants.

578
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:47,350
It provides housing providers a clear, transparent guideline and a fair and impartial process for

579
00:52:47,350 --> 00:52:47,710
the city.

580
00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:52,670
It continues to promote housing stability and reduces the opportunity for displacement.

581
00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:58,730
And for the public, it allows the support of ongoing investments to existing and new housing

582
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:59,190
stock.

583
00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:03,890
that are also in compliance with our goals for reigning numbers.

584
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,000
And so just wanted briefly, you know, just highlight how it interacts with existing

585
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,700
state rent control, and that's already in place, it's been in place for some time.

586
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,860
Basically, AB 1482 set statewide caps and just cause rules for

587
00:53:20,860 --> 00:53:25,860
some rental units, and then laws like this or ordinances like this can impose additional

588
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:29,500
restrictions or additional protections that are not covered for state law.

589
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:33,960
And I mentioned how this would add a rent review over 7% without caps.

590
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:39,820
But it works in concert and in works consistent with AB 1482.

591
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,260
It's also, as I mentioned, very consistent with your council priority work plan to expand

592
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:53,880
housing options and consistent with your policy 310 rental protections to explore the feasibility

593
00:53:54,590 --> 00:53:58,480
to enhance senate protection provided by the city to include a rent review program.

594
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,460
and staff has been doing that work diligently and has brought this forward and for you all to consider.

595
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:09,040
And just once again for the public because there may be some confusion over rent review,

596
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,200
rent control or stabilization just in terms of how it's compared with the voter initiated rent control ballot measure.

597
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:20,220
The program provides a review process, not a price-fixed heart rent cap.

598
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:25,580
The City Council can modify the program as needed if we need to make some tweaks or adjustments.

599
00:54:25,580 --> 00:54:31,640
residents. Once again, it's a, you know, citizens that are appointed on the board by the

600
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,240
council. And it's a significant cost and resource savings for the city to minister,

601
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,880
which is why staff is recommending this approach and have been working on it for some time.

602
00:54:43,810 --> 00:54:48,190
And so staff's recommendation is to contact the public hearing, wave the first reading and

603
00:54:48,190 --> 00:54:54,750
introduce the ordinance. The second reading would occur on September 21st. And that adoption

604
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:59,710
of the ordinance would amend the San Pablo Municipal Code and introduce chapter 9.6.

605
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:08,740
And so, that concludes my presentation. We did receive some late correspondence from an

606
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,460
organization from the public. We haven't had time to go through that in depth, but just

607
00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:18,500
on a quick reading, we feel like our ordinance is consistent and still doesn't run a foul

608
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:23,900
of any of the recommendations. And some of those recommendations could be implemented through

609
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:28,560
the administrative procedures once the ordinance and the program is underway. And I'll let

610
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:34,520
if Ryan wants to chime in on that, I'll let him do so, but I did a quick scan of the letter

611
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:41,080
that we received late this afternoon, and I feel good that our ordinance is in a good place right now.

612
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:52,830
Yeah, and I do want to clarify one aspect of the staff presentation. The way the ordinance is

613
00:55:52,830 --> 00:55:59,970
currently drafted with respect to the composition of the rent review board. The two members who are

614
00:55:59,970 --> 00:56:07,530
housing providers, as currently drafted, those would be providers who own residential

615
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:11,130
properties in San Pablo and that reside in San Pablo.

616
00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:11,590
Correct.

617
00:56:12,790 --> 00:56:12,950
Yes.

618
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:19,280
Yes, because we would have a board and they would need to participate in board meetings and

619
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,000
so we need them to be here and accessible and available like

620
00:56:25,310 --> 00:56:26,210
other board members are.

621
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:33,570
So then oh, I see yeah, yeah, the board member, the board members, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry.

622
00:56:36,910 --> 00:56:42,690
I'm going to ask just a clarifying question before I open it up to the public for a public

623
00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:43,210
comment.

624
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:55,970
Can you have any clarifying questions, can you remind me how many board members?

625
00:56:55,970 --> 00:57:00,930
we're looking for. So we were looking we were looking for five with the potential of an alternate

626
00:57:01,790 --> 00:57:06,390
just so that we can always make quorum. And then this is adopted and it's going to be

627
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:15,130
implemented January 1st. When is that committee going to be established? Yeah so that would be the

628
00:57:15,130 --> 00:57:20,650
next step. We are also monitoring what's going on with the election to see how much time and

629
00:57:20,650 --> 00:57:26,710
effort and resources we put forward. You know some of this may be notified but we are

630
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:30,930
you want to be in a position so that we can move forward and have this up and running by January

631
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:36,330
1st 2027 if that ballot measure fails and so then we will come back to council and go through

632
00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:40,810
the normal process and those board members would be appointed on a staggered term so some will be

633
00:57:40,810 --> 00:57:47,550
two years, some will be forward so that everyone doesn't you know sense that out of their seat at

634
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:53,630
the same time. Yeah. Okay, that was my only question. Thank you. Okay.

635
00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:56,590
Councillor Neill of Pineda.

636
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,160
Thank you for the information, the presentation.

637
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,120
I

638
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:13,690
have a one question that comes to my mind. What if, let's say, the board meets, there was a

639
00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:22,630
dispute, a resolution was declared, but then ultimately, the action felt to happen. What happens at

640
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:23,130
at that point?

641
00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:24,850
Or what would occur at that step?

642
00:58:25,530 --> 00:58:26,390
That's a good question.

643
00:58:26,610 --> 00:58:31,090
So if there's an agreement that both parties agree to,

644
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:33,730
they would have to basically sign that they agreed on.

645
00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:36,210
So it's basically a binding resolution

646
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:39,150
that they both agree to and they sign.

647
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:42,230
I believe we'll probably get it notarized, Brian.

648
00:58:42,490 --> 00:58:42,910
Is that right?

649
00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:46,190
And then they would be held to account

650
00:58:46,550 --> 00:58:48,490
to hold it there into the bargain basically.

651
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:50,610
And so just like any other sort of agreement,

652
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,130
a bit, or a bit more random understanding or contract.

653
00:58:56,060 --> 00:59:02,400
And then I did see the comment about they have 30 days upon reaching the 7% or going

654
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,840
above further to bring the claim.

655
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:14,950
I'm just wondering if, when if they like the average tenant, you know, like I know I got

656
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:21,290
charged this amount and everything like that and I'm just wondering, actually

657
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:24,440
never mind.

658
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,460
I'll just say this.

659
00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:32,260
I mean for me this is not a bad idea. I'm not opposed to it. Everyone on this council

660
00:59:32,260 --> 00:59:41,940
knows I would like to see some different things beyond this but I understand what we're

661
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:42,200
at.

662
00:59:45,140 --> 00:59:50,620
I do believe again that something like this is important and you know has a potential

663
00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:58,480
to make a difference. Of course, the limits is what I iffy but I will support this.

664
01:00:08,270 --> 01:00:09,530
I am just hopeful

665
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:36,780
that ask this program comes to be whether it be through a ballot measure or through our city program, that we're continuing to keep in mind just what this means for our residents. You know what I mean? The people that live here, the people that work here, the people that serve here.

666
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:52,680
Actually, that's it. I'm just leaving without that. Thank you for the information. Thank you for the presentation.

667
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:58,600
I appreciate, you know, that thought that was gone into this, that's it for me.

668
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,020
Thank you.

669
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,740
Appreciate it.

670
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,520
And just to respond, a council member, you know, our intent was to cover as many units as possible,

671
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,700
including the, you know, the units that would not be counted, that would not be covered under other proposals.

672
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:12,660
And that aren't covered under 1482.

673
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,000
And so that's our proposal and we heard from the community that we implemented, you know, as much as we could.

674
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,340
And we feel really good about it, thank you.

675
01:01:22,550 --> 01:01:22,910
Thank you.

676
01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:28,390
I have no questions, thank you.

677
01:01:29,330 --> 01:01:34,270
I do have a question because I'm reading through this, and I'm going, but what happens

678
01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:47,550
when an apartment or home is in substandard conditions, not necessarily that they're raising the rent over 7%.

679
01:01:47,550 --> 01:01:54,890
But how can we, you know, how can we, how do we protect that and why wouldn't that be

680
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:57,390
part of this tenant protection?

681
01:01:58,590 --> 01:02:05,030
That's a great question, Mayor, and I appreciate the question, and so we have several other

682
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:11,510
programs that cover the health and safety of our rental spaces, specifically our rental

683
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:16,290
inspection program, and that's the program that we lean on to make sure that our rental

684
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:19,270
units are in healthy, safe, good working order.

685
01:02:19,830 --> 01:02:26,350
We also have the just cause for eviction ordinance that was recently adopted and anti-harassment.

686
01:02:26,890 --> 01:02:30,510
And so that's why we took like a multi-pronged approach to make sure that we were covering

687
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:30,910
all.

688
01:02:31,090 --> 01:02:36,210
Yes, because when folks came up to talk a lot of times what they spoke about was substandard

689
01:02:36,210 --> 01:02:41,490
living conditions or harassment in our ordinance, that's you all pass, address that.

690
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:45,870
And so that wouldn't necessarily be addressed here, but we do feel confident that our real

691
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:48,610
inspection program handles that. So actually this is

692
01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:54,710
in addition to all the other protections

693
01:02:54,710 --> 01:03:02,850
that we have. That's that's what this is. Exactly. So yes. All right. Do we?

694
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:08,030
Okay. After

695
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:15,090
after public comment. Okay. All right. Well I'll leave it at that and and open up public comment.

696
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:15,950
Okay.

697
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:20,860
One speaker.

698
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:21,920
713.

699
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:23,960
Jennifer Rizzo.

700
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,340
Good evening mayor and council members.

701
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,060
My name is Jennifer Rizzo with the California Apartment Association.

702
01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:48,160
CAA appreciates the city's efforts to develop a written review program that's fair, balanced,

703
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:54,320
and responsive to the community while continuing to support housing operations and investment.

704
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:59,440
We ask the council to consider a few minor recommendations to the proposal.

705
01:04:00,340 --> 01:04:06,540
First, the ordinance should clearly state what the rent attendant is required to pay while

706
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:12,940
the rent review is pending, including whether a portion of the disputed increase must be paid

707
01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:16,820
or deposited during this process, and if so, how much.

708
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:23,820
Second, we ask that the requirement for housing providers to provide this notice to tenants

709
01:04:23,820 --> 01:04:30,540
and two languages. Just go into effect only after the city has published the notice in two languages.

710
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Third, participation in our opinion, she remains consistent throughout the program,

711
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:45,860
conciliation, and mediation involve the tenant and housing provider. But at the hearing stage,

712
01:04:45,860 --> 01:04:51,560
it says that the economic development manager or rent review board may include, quote,

713
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:57,960
other persons deemed necessary and we believe this language is a little is too

714
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,860
broad and recommend that particular

715
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:28,820
Recipation remain consistent with the earlier stages of the process, notably just with the Housing Provider Internet. We also appreciate the board composition of the Rent Review Board. However, please consider allowing housing providers with property in San Pablo to also serve on the board, even if they do not currently reside in the city. The city should clarify the anticipated cost of the program.

716
01:05:28,820 --> 01:05:35,760
And perhaps establish a fair and more balanced approach to how these costs are shared.

717
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,280
And six, the Council recently repealed the rental registry in favor of pursuing this

718
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,020
rent review program, yet the proposal states that the city quote may require housing providers

719
01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:51,160
to register units.

720
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:57,740
So we just recommend removing that language and requiring any future rental registry proposal

721
01:05:57,740 --> 01:06:01,540
to return to the council for approval before it's implemented.

722
01:06:02,780 --> 01:06:08,400
And finally, the city code RE provides for anti-retaliation protections for the tenants.

723
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:18,780
And there is a section 9.60.80B that states that a housing provider carries the burden of

724
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:23,500
proof that an adverse action was not in retaliation.

725
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:32,400
And that provision generally conflicts with the California law governing presumption and burdened up proof so that Fisher versus City of Berkeley.

726
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,360
So those were just our feedback further.

727
01:06:35,980 --> 01:06:36,280
Thank you.

728
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,020
Perfect.

729
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,260
Thank you.

730
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:47,400
Did she send the feedback to the, yeah, you have that.

731
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:55,000
So, I think there's a couple of really important points there to consider, especially that last one.

732
01:06:55,500 --> 01:07:01,160
That is just to be clear, that's feedback that I am hearing for the first time.

733
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:12,380
So, if those are items the council is interested in exploring, that would need to be done prior to bringing the ordinance back.

734
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:20,200
I'm not hearing anything specifically that I would say absolutely needs to be incorporated

735
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:27,020
into the draft ordinance, but again, that's at the council's discretion, but for full

736
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:32,160
disclosure, those are proposed changes that are that I'm hearing for the first time.

737
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:32,480
Okay.

738
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,020
Those are not part of the current ordinance.

739
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:34,700
Okay.

740
01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:35,900
We'll take a look at it.

741
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,020
Read it and see if, if, you know, if they're required.

742
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:39,720
Right.

743
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,780
And so I guess one option would be the ordinances proposed to be introduced this evening.

744
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,200
The City Council could introduce that ordinance still this evening.

745
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,060
We could take a look at those requests.

746
01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:59,220
If there was something that upon review in my opinion absolutely should be incorporated,

747
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:06,140
then I could bring that to the Council's attention and that could be reintroduced at the next meeting instead of adopted.

748
01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:30,740
So, if the Council still has a discretion to introduce the ordinance tonight and we can either come back at the next meeting with the proposed adoption or alternatively if there were comments that upon reflection we felt needed to be incorporated into the ordinance then we can do that bring it back at the next meeting for reintroduction and it would ultimately be adopted at the meeting after that.

749
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:37,660
So that that would be up to the City Council, but that would be my recommended path is to go ahead and still introduce the ordinance and

750
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:44,760
provide the ability for it to be adopted at the next meeting based on our own administrative review.

751
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:47,680
Okay, that sounds good.

752
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:51,010
Do we have to vote on that?

753
01:08:53,330 --> 01:08:56,650
Well, I think you'll vote, you'll de facto vote by

754
01:08:56,650 --> 01:08:59,630
I'm introducing the ordinance tonight.

755
01:08:59,870 --> 01:09:00,770
So if you introduce it tonight,

756
01:09:01,410 --> 01:09:04,050
then it'll be reviewed in the interim

757
01:09:04,050 --> 01:09:06,730
and staff will either bring it back for adoption

758
01:09:06,730 --> 01:09:10,490
or come back with some additional suggested edits.

759
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:11,190
Okay.

760
01:09:12,210 --> 01:09:12,770
Okay.

761
01:09:14,270 --> 01:09:15,190
I do have my question.

762
01:09:15,610 --> 01:09:16,250
So, yes.

763
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:18,710
I guess I'm in the policy.

764
01:09:19,070 --> 01:09:21,170
I said, no, no, don't run.

765
01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:24,930
Because public comment is now closed.

766
01:09:24,930 --> 01:09:27,510
was this of the 19, now I will further ask.

767
01:09:28,110 --> 01:09:28,950
No question.

768
01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:30,690
I'll say you have any further questions.

769
01:09:30,810 --> 01:09:31,830
Councilmember Pineda.

770
01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:32,110
Yeah,

771
01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:36,050
I do have a question.

772
01:09:36,350 --> 01:09:39,410
Also relates to like, if this were to move forward

773
01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:43,990
and pass this, how, when, or where would people find out

774
01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:48,050
what this program is, what it does, you know,

775
01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:49,130
what it intends to achieve?

776
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:51,530
Thank you for the question.

777
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:55,930
And we would continue to broadcast loud and clear

778
01:09:55,930 --> 01:09:59,930
through various channels that this program is adopted, it would be...

779
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:30,160
Broadcast to our newsletter, through social media, through other channels that we've been exploring with some of our consultants, and so we make it loud and clear to both tenants and housing providers, because housing providers have some responsibility. If this ordinance is passed, they have to provide the notice, as mentioned, to tenants in two languages. Also, we'll be coming back in a future date to explore potential amendment to the fee schedule, because there will be some administrative

780
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,440
some fees that will have to be borne by providers and or tenants.

781
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:39,680
We've seen some ordinances where there's no fee for the tenant unless they request a hearing.

782
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,260
Just like a planning commission meeting, there's no fee unless you want to use permit.

783
01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:48,980
And so that's one option we've seen it where the fee is shared between both and

784
01:10:48,980 --> 01:10:53,420
the property owner can pass it on to the lease, like 15 or 20 bucks.

785
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:59,740
but so those are just items that would come back in terms of just the after

786
01:10:59,740 --> 01:11:03,720
reducing analysis in terms of what we feel like the appropriate amount would

787
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,800
be. So some of those questions that were raised here have been thought

788
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,620
through and addressed as I mentioned also the question about the board

789
01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:14,920
composition. We feel it's appropriate that they be residents of San

790
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:20,660
Pablo that way it's consistent with your other commission requirements and like

791
01:11:20,660 --> 01:11:23,020
I said, we can continue to look at some of the other ones

792
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:24,340
to see if there's anything significant,

793
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,900
but we didn't see anything significant at this point,

794
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:27,920
but we just got it to.

795
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,580
Yeah, now that's just canceling, it's like,

796
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,620
well, if something like this would be available,

797
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,060
what would be the size where the residents will be informed

798
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:37,660
that there is a process, or there could be a process

799
01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:40,060
if they choose to want to go down that path.

800
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,820
Yeah, we would hold significant outreach and workshops

801
01:11:43,820 --> 01:11:46,340
and walk people through the process of how it works.

802
01:11:46,340 --> 01:11:49,400
We could consider creating videos and using graphics

803
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:55,100
like we've been doing, but through our other outreach programs about our tenant support assistance package.

804
01:11:55,540 --> 01:11:56,360
All right, thank you.

805
01:11:56,980 --> 01:12:01,720
I did want to add kind of following on my prior comments as well.

806
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:10,980
So as the council will note, the ordinance, you know, even though it's being introduced tonight and potentially adopted at the next meeting,

807
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:18,420
it's not scheduled to take effect until January 1st between the ordinance being adopted.

808
01:12:18,420 --> 01:12:23,440
there's a lot of administrative work that will go into actually putting the

809
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:28,860
program together ahead of January 1st. So what I would also say is if the

810
01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:32,920
ordinance is introduced tonight and adopted at the next meeting if there are

811
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:38,320
changes as staff kind of moves and implements that with an eye toward January

812
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:43,160
1st, if there are things that we notice and we say hey this doesn't work or this

813
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:48,360
isn't going to work, we can bring back the ordinance later in the year and a

814
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:55,860
amended, even though it's already been adopted prior to it going into effect and really being used in 2027.

815
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,000
So I just want to make that clear as well.

816
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:03,040
So there'll be a little bit of learning by doing as this program is put together.

817
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:08,860
And there's room for amendment prior to January 1st as well.

818
01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:11,480
Okay, that's good news.

819
01:13:12,020 --> 01:13:12,660
Vice mayor.

820
01:13:12,980 --> 01:13:16,460
And I support the city attorney's latest recommendation on that.

821
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:24,660
vice mayor. Do you have any? No, I have nothing. I just have one, one question in your

822
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:34,280
information campaign. If there's room to add the other protections that, that the

823
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:40,780
city provides, I know that, you know, but, but I think that would enhance this. Like, we're

824
01:13:40,780 --> 01:13:46,500
not only doing this, but we're also, we also have this other thing because you might have

825
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:49,900
landlord that is not going to raise the rent because he knows better but he's not going

826
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:59,060
to fix your molded bathroom or that ceiling that just crumbled and my experience is that

827
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:04,600
sometimes people are just afraid and to say anything or they just don't know that there

828
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:10,380
is a program and they won't get in trouble and you know it's a lot.

829
01:14:10,380 --> 01:14:20,620
And we will also, Mayor and Council, be cognizant that our residential health and safety program is about protecting existing housing stock and housing stability.

830
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:38,100
So we'll work in concert with community development on making sure that our community knows about that program and that they don't have to be afraid not to contact the city for those inspections, because it's just about bringing things up to code and dealing with nuisances sometimes.

831
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,360
But that's when they are afraid that there's harassment.

832
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:43,740
And a lot of people will not.

833
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,600
Right, and that's in conjunction with our existing just

834
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,260
cause of addiction and antiviruses,

835
01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:50,160
that you just adopted this spring.

836
01:14:50,740 --> 01:14:51,700
I appreciate that.

837
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,060
We're going out and we're giving people the whole picture

838
01:14:56,060 --> 01:14:58,720
rather than just rent protection.

839
01:14:58,820 --> 01:14:59,900
But we're also going to protect.

840
01:15:05,060 --> 01:15:05,420
Okay.

841
01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:15,280
And I don't have any further questions. What is the pleasure of the council? I think this is where we're going next.

842
01:15:30,740 --> 01:15:35,040
Thank you very much.

843
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:35,900
Thank you.

844
01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:40,040
So thank you, Madam Clerk, and to clarify, so we waved first reading.

845
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,220
We introduced the ordinance.

846
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:48,320
We'll come back at your next meeting for adoption with the caveat that between now and January

847
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:59,500
First, if we learn things as the programs put together that require further amendments to the ordinance, then staff would bring those back and potentially amend it prior to implementing.

848
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,780
Okay, that sounds good to me next item on the agenda.

849
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:12,740
Next item item number 24, file ID 26-423.

850
01:16:12,740 --> 01:16:20,640
three. Consider authorization to proceed with a proposed ordinance amending chapter 2.40

851
01:16:21,140 --> 01:16:26,960
of the San Pablo Municipal Code to increase the annual salaries of city council members

852
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:35,060
for the next elected term of office in December 2026. We're suing to California Government

853
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:40,360
Amendment Code Section 36516A, City Manager.

854
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:41,660
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

855
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:46,840
Tonight, Mayor and Council, you have a policy discussion before you to provide formal

856
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:53,860
direction to staff on considering whether to adjust your existing salary for the next

857
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:57,180
elective term of office beginning December of 2026.

858
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,660
So this is not an adoption of an ordinance tonight.

859
01:17:00,660 --> 01:17:07,120
this is providing majority vote direction so that a potential ordinance could be developed

860
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:14,200
if you direct it at your next regular counseling. So tonight, we'll go over the two options

861
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:19,860
and let's before you. And this is already contained in your adopted City Council Party work plan

862
01:17:20,410 --> 01:17:28,240
to be addressed as a policy consideration every two years prior to the election cycle. Next slide,

863
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:28,680
please.

864
01:17:30,770 --> 01:17:34,050
So the decision point again is to provide policy direction via minute

865
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:39,690
order tonight and you'll be looking at two policy directions. One is option one

866
01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:46,610
is to take no action. Your current salaries remain at 1,422 per month. No

867
01:17:46,610 --> 01:17:51,030
ordinance is prepared and we do not amend the existing chapter of the San

868
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:55,430
Pablo Municipal Code referring to salaries and there's no added general fund

869
01:17:55,430 --> 01:18:00,890
costs for this fiscal year or next fiscal year. The next opportunity to adjust your salary

870
01:18:00,890 --> 01:18:07,650
would be the December 28 elective term of office before the election cycle in November

871
01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:15,150
of 2028. Option two is to adjust up to 5% per calendar year by state statute. There's

872
01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:23,870
also a CPI increase alternative that general law cities can also consider. But currently the

873
01:18:23,870 --> 01:18:27,330
The 5% exceeds that current CPI adjustment.

874
01:18:28,030 --> 01:18:33,630
So tonight you would direct staff to draft an ordinance amending chapter 2.40 of the

875
01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:40,790
San Paul municipal code amending your salary to a maximum of plus 10% for the last two

876
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:46,590
calendar years and that would adjust your salary to 1,565 per month.

877
01:18:47,050 --> 01:18:53,010
This would become effective if the ordinance is adopted on your next elective term of office

878
01:18:53,010 --> 01:19:01,270
in December of 2026. All five council members, the annual cost total for this adjustment would

879
01:19:01,270 --> 01:19:09,650
be about 90,297 annually, which is a net budget increase of about just under $5,000 for fiscal year

880
01:19:09,650 --> 01:19:17,370
2627. So not too significant, but there is a budget impact. And just to add, the elected city clerk

881
01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:24,670
in elected city treasurer were already granted salary adjustments last October 2024 and that

882
01:19:24,670 --> 01:19:31,510
does not take effect which is a 30% salary adjustment until December of 2026 as was adopted

883
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:40,530
through ordinance 2024-004 in October of 2024. Next slide. So just some background on the

884
01:19:40,530 --> 01:19:46,170
legal and policy framework for general law cities. Charter cities are not included in this analysis

885
01:19:46,170 --> 01:19:52,270
We're just referring to general velocities because general velocities must abide by the government code section.

886
01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:59,970
So as mentioned before, there is a state statute which requires you to not increase your salary by 5%.

887
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:27,320
Senate bill 329, this came up, this was a bill passed back in 2024, which reflects the current practice under the government code, and that has already been incorporated into this policy discussion for tonight.

888
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:33,440
Again, the under state statute, if you adjust your salary, it does not become immediate.

889
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:41,580
It becomes reflective at your next elective term of office following the certification of

890
01:20:41,580 --> 01:20:42,400
election results.

891
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,360
And that will be in December of 2026.

892
01:20:45,140 --> 01:20:51,440
And then in our own municipal code, chapter 2.40, it talks about councilmember compensation,

893
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:55,080
which is currently $1,422 per month.

894
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,200
and that COLA's are not permitted by state law.

895
01:20:58,780 --> 01:21:02,140
So future adjustments must be adopted via ordinance

896
01:21:02,140 --> 01:21:05,040
before the next elective term of office.

897
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,860
And as mentioned earlier, this policy 1-1-8

898
01:21:08,860 --> 01:21:12,660
is already contained in your adopted 25-27

899
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:14,720
council party work plan to review

900
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:17,200
every two-year election cycle.

901
01:21:17,540 --> 01:21:18,000
Next slide.

902
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,980
So currently, as I mentioned,

903
01:21:21,980 --> 01:21:26,560
Your salary is 1,000, 422 per month per council member.

904
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:32,180
That's about 17,066 per year per council member.

905
01:21:32,900 --> 01:21:38,580
And per year, we budget about $85,313 for

906
01:21:38,580 --> 01:21:42,460
those salaries on an annual basis contained in your adopted budget.

907
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:48,300
The last adjustment as indicated was October of 2024.

908
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:51,580
and that became effective with the elective

909
01:21:51,580 --> 01:21:54,040
term of office starting in December of 2024,

910
01:21:54,140 --> 01:21:56,420
and that was a 30% increase.

911
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,920
We have passed two calendar years,

912
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,320
25 and 26 since the last salary adjustment in 2024,

913
01:22:06,220 --> 01:22:08,480
and currently in our current adopted general

914
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:11,120
from budget for fiscal year 20s, it's 27.

915
01:22:11,620 --> 01:22:14,120
There's a total of about 85,000 and some change

916
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,060
for all council salaries

917
01:22:16,060 --> 01:22:26,680
with necessary budget adjustments to be processed during the mid-year budget cycle if warranted if the council decides to move forward with adjusting salaries for this cycle.

918
01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:27,660
Next slide.

919
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:37,420
The elected city clerk and city treasurer as mentioned already had a 30% salary adjustment so their current monthly salary is $240 per month.

920
01:22:37,420 --> 01:22:47,320
The new salary is $312 effective December 2026 per ordinance adopted 2024-005 and again

921
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:54,340
this is 30% and there is a shortfall in the budget which will be covered at the end

922
01:22:54,340 --> 01:22:59,140
of the year or at the manure budget cycle we're not too concerned about that adjustment.

923
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:04,220
So we will be making sure that adjustment goes forward for our elected city clerk and elected

924
01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:04,700
treasurer.

925
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:05,520
Next slide.

926
01:23:07,090 --> 01:23:13,710
Here is the history and timeline of the salary adjustments that have been adopted by Council

927
01:23:13,710 --> 01:23:20,430
going back to 2011 through 2024, so I don't need to go over this but you can see every

928
01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:26,850
single time the Council has adjusted their salary with the last one being a 30% in 2024,

929
01:23:27,610 --> 01:23:33,510
the Council has historically addressed this issue and done so by ordinance and following

930
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:34,470
the state statute.

931
01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:43,440
Next slide. A labor market analysis was compiled. There's a more detailed labor market survey

932
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:51,300
in your agenda packet as an attachment. The median monthly salary is $950 per month

933
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:59,340
or $11,400 and that's currently where Pannolan Pleasant Hale stand. So right now your current salary

934
01:23:59,340 --> 01:24:06,740
is 49.7% above the survey medium and we rank fourth of the 16 general law

935
01:24:06,740 --> 01:24:11,320
cities in Contra Costa County. So the cities of Richmond, El Sardón, San

936
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:17,340
Ramón are charter cities that abide by charter provisions adopted by their local

937
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:21,560
electorate. We must comply with state statutes because we're a general law

938
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:27,200
city. So that's where we stand in terms of your market analysis, with Richmond

939
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:32,860
for any act on concrete, sort of at the top and somehow on the 4th place.

940
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,860
Next slide.

941
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:41,710
So again, option 1 for consideration is do not adjust city council member salaries,

942
01:24:41,970 --> 01:24:43,090
so I don't need to go over that.

943
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:50,490
Option 2, next slide, if you should provide direction by majority votes, that would increase

944
01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:57,290
it by 5% per year for a 10% maximum adjusted, that would go to 1,565 per month.

945
01:24:57,290 --> 01:24:59,950
and that would be about 143.

946
01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:29,980
$18,880 per year per member, culminating in a $90,000, $297 fiscal impact, which is a net increase of just under $5,000. So that would only apply starting December 26th through the end of fiscal year 26th, 27, which ends on June 30th, 20th, 27. So moving forward, here's the two fiscal comparisons. You can see.

947
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:36,920
see what is current and what would be moving forward with your adjustment tonight if you

948
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:42,440
decide to do that at a maximum of 10 percent and those are the two comparisons.

949
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:44,580
Next slide.

950
01:25:46,530 --> 01:25:53,130
So to summarize, the requested action tonight would be to one slept option one with no adjustment

951
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:58,690
or proceed with selecting option two which means drafting an ordinance with a maximum 10 percent

952
01:25:58,690 --> 01:26:04,930
salary adjustment by minute order. Staff will prepare the ordinance if option two is selected

953
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:11,670
and bring that forward to have it introduced with first ring and introduction at your scheduled

954
01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:17,530
regular meeting on September 21st. If it goes forward, there will be a second reading and adoption

955
01:26:17,530 --> 01:26:25,170
on October 5th, 2026 and in accordance with state statutes and that will become effective in

956
01:26:25,170 --> 01:26:32,870
In December of 2026 following certification of November 3rd, 2026 election results, which

957
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:36,910
will likely be certified at your December 7th council meeting.

958
01:26:37,670 --> 01:26:40,110
That concludes staff's presentation.

959
01:26:40,690 --> 01:26:40,950
Okay.

960
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:41,850
Thank you.

961
01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:43,550
Thank you, Matt.

962
01:26:43,890 --> 01:26:48,170
So, I will first go around the dice, see if anyone has any question.

963
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:51,230
Councilmember Ponce, do you have any questions?

964
01:26:51,410 --> 01:26:51,970
No questions.

965
01:26:52,170 --> 01:26:52,430
Thank you.

966
01:26:53,950 --> 01:26:55,630
Councilmember Pineda, do you have any questions?

967
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:59,150
I do have one.

968
01:27:00,830 --> 01:27:08,810
So this would be pretty much saying it would cost us an additional $5,000 total per year.

969
01:27:09,490 --> 01:27:10,030
Let us end it quickly.

970
01:27:10,430 --> 01:27:10,630
Correct.

971
01:27:10,770 --> 01:27:11,470
And that budget increase.

972
01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:11,930
Got it.

973
01:27:12,490 --> 01:27:18,790
And then my other question is, because I remember previously, I feel like it had gone a while

974
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:20,490
before any adjustment.

975
01:27:20,490 --> 01:27:22,510
I think it was like 2018 if that was taken.

976
01:27:22,510 --> 01:27:28,650
So if we go back to the slide that shows the timeline, keep going.

977
01:27:35,310 --> 01:27:37,550
So the last time we adjusted was 2024.

978
01:27:37,790 --> 01:27:39,490
Previous to that was 2018.

979
01:27:40,330 --> 01:27:46,270
So in 2024, the council did pass the ordinance 24-505, which was a 30% increase.

980
01:27:47,690 --> 01:27:48,350
Got it.

981
01:27:48,590 --> 01:27:54,550
I'm only wondering too, just because I don't, I know I was on council on during both the signs.

982
01:27:54,550 --> 01:28:00,130
but I don't recall how even came back to us, but I remember this conversation was happening

983
01:28:00,130 --> 01:28:05,050
across many communities, across the state. I'm just wondering if we were in a position

984
01:28:05,050 --> 01:28:08,630
where we did take no action. If and when will this ever come back to us?

985
01:28:09,930 --> 01:28:18,270
Well, I remember in 2024, right before this was enacted, one of the things that I had asked

986
01:28:18,270 --> 01:28:23,190
and I requested and I had the City Council agree that every two years that we would have

987
01:28:23,190 --> 01:28:30,390
the option to vote this on or not and that we will not ever go allow any council member

988
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:36,270
to sit seven years in that country and even at least give the option or the opportunity

989
01:28:36,970 --> 01:28:42,430
to to to say yay on me and I appreciate it. Yeah, I just want to remember.

990
01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:48,370
Yeah, so it's an adopted policy in your work plan. Okay, that's my questions. Thank you.

991
01:28:49,470 --> 01:28:59,650
Vice Mayor Xavier. Any questions? I don't have any questions. Okay. I don't have any questions for now, so I will go ahead and open up to a public hearing.

992
01:29:00,170 --> 01:29:07,350
The time now is 7.39 p.m. Here are no speakers. 7.39 p.m. is closed.

993
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:09,410
Right.

994
01:29:09,710 --> 01:29:10,030
It is.

995
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:15,920
According to it.

996
01:29:15,940 --> 01:29:16,400
It is.

997
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:17,300
Yeah.

998
01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:21,840
No public hearing requirement, but we just take potential public comment.

999
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,080
Isn't this an ordinance though?

1000
01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:25,700
No.

1001
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:27,100
It's an ordinance.

1002
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:32,120
It would be its direction, its direction to staff, whether or not to draft an ordinance.

1003
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:37,500
But that ordinance in and of itself even when it comes back would not be, it would be subject

1004
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:41,720
to the Brown Act and public comment would not be subject to a public hearing because it's

1005
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:49,380
not a zoning amendment or it's not a technically a city fee so it doesn't fall under the categories

1006
01:29:49,380 --> 01:29:54,540
where you have a legal public hearing requirement but obviously it's still subject to the Brown Act

1007
01:29:54,540 --> 01:29:56,660
and subject to public review and comment.

1008
01:29:56,700 --> 01:29:59,700
Okay, all right, I hear.

1009
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,180
I see ordinance, and that's it for me. And it's always better to be safe than sorry. So, okay.

1010
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:24,200
So, do we have any, any question, any other questions? No, I don't, I don't have any questions. What is the pleasure of the council then? I'm going to move to select option one.

1011
01:30:26,750 --> 01:30:30,790
Second. No adjustment. No judgment.

1012
01:30:33,050 --> 01:30:45,630
I can give my reasoning, so can I, but I would like to, I would like to, I know they have

1013
01:30:45,630 --> 01:30:55,610
been, there's already a motion out there, so I'd like to propose another motion. Do I

1014
01:30:55,610 --> 01:30:59,630
I have to say, to see what the pleasure of the council is,

1015
01:30:59,810 --> 01:31:04,230
give me that process again, because I don't agree with option one.

1016
01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:07,880
So I don't know, I don't know.

1017
01:31:07,940 --> 01:31:12,520
There's a motion in the second on the day is for option one.

1018
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,220
So there's opportunity to discuss that motion, but

1019
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:20,060
that motion would be acted on prior to another motion.

1020
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:27,080
The council can vote on this motion, but subject to first discussion among the council.

1021
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,120
So, if

1022
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,220
you have points that you want to bring up.

1023
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,140
Well, I just think the cost of living is, you know,

1024
01:31:38,340 --> 01:31:42,420
it's definitely a real deal here in the state of California, especially.

1025
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:50,740
In the city, hopefully we would be passing a sales tax as well.

1026
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,500
That's more money out of out working dollars, right?

1027
01:31:55,500 --> 01:32:08,680
And it's if we don't, let's say we don't get elected, I don't see the reason why we would not have

1028
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:12,680
that.

1029
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,120
I mean people don't come here to make money for sure, right?

1030
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:28,400
You can't really live off of $15 a month, but when you do have to live off of that, I don't think that we should say no to it.

1031
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:35,040
because you may not need it, but somebody else that will come in our place will definitely need it.

1032
01:32:35,660 --> 01:32:42,960
So when I think about this, I'm not thinking about, I don't want it for me, but for someone else that will need it,

1033
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:50,800
because their retirement, California, is one of the highest states to live in, as a matter of fact, when you're retired,

1034
01:32:50,800 --> 01:33:01,880
This is one of the highest states that for people who are retired, 60% more likely to become homeless.

1035
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:12,760
So any little funding that we can help people with more money, I say yes.

1036
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:26,060
And this isn't significant, this isn't anything that is going to bankrupt the city, for sure $5,000 a year is peanuts in the big picture.

1037
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:38,140
And on time, that attend whenever there's money left, which has always been money left from the unordered funds, it's been a lot more than $5,000.

1038
01:33:38,140 --> 01:33:42,200
and it's always been on reserve, reserve, reserve.

1039
01:33:42,420 --> 01:33:45,100
I just say for the people who are coming after us,

1040
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,260
we need to give them a little bit of reprieve

1041
01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:51,540
and that's why I can't agree to this.

1042
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,760
And I do wanna clarify, just from a procedural standpoint,

1043
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,040
the mayor does have the option

1044
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,660
to make an alternative motion.

1045
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,460
Again, there's a motion already on the day

1046
01:34:03,460 --> 01:34:06,180
as that's been made and seconded.

1047
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,640
The mayor could make an alternative motion

1048
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,180
and it would be up to the council whether there was a second to that motion.

1049
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:14,940
Okay, so I will, I will do that.

1050
01:34:15,460 --> 01:34:16,780
I'll send it in motion.

1051
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,180
And select option number two.

1052
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:27,170
I think I'm in seconded, but also I just want to go back to kind of even remember a first

1053
01:34:27,170 --> 01:34:32,850
conversation when this came back to us in 28. Well, yeah, it's 24. Excuse me.

1054
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:39,590
The reason why is, I remember what I had said then,

1055
01:34:40,010 --> 01:34:47,330
I still strongly believe that today is that their individuals that may not be feeling

1056
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:52,150
encouraged to even want to run for their city council, I'm thinking about single parent

1057
01:34:52,150 --> 01:34:57,110
households, I'm thinking about, you know, also younger individuals who also, you know,

1058
01:34:57,110 --> 01:34:59,950
So maybe you have seen that this position is to...

1059
01:35:03,340 --> 01:35:07,380
We're going to be able to give back in this capacity and in this role.

1060
01:35:11,140 --> 01:35:14,440
The problem here is timing,

1061
01:35:19,810 --> 01:35:36,190
but I do agree. I do agree that 5,000 in the grand scheme of things, we've worked with a lot, a lot,

1062
01:35:36,190 --> 01:35:42,830
to a city for individual families or against somebody and again it may not even be us and I think

1063
01:35:42,830 --> 01:35:49,230
this has to go to the conversation it's like not about us but really it's again who we hope to have

1064
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:59,960
or you know kind of the accessibility to a position like this. I've said this in the past and I'll

1065
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:04,640
say it I mean I'm maybe not everybody will agree is that you know typically these positions are

1066
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,180
or help by people that are pretty well off

1067
01:36:07,180 --> 01:36:11,360
or retired or that have just time freedom, right?

1068
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,680
But there are other individuals who quite literally

1069
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,020
cannot afford to do a role like this.

1070
01:36:17,420 --> 01:36:19,400
Even for me, I could only do this job

1071
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:20,820
because I also have another job

1072
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:22,380
that technically pays my bills.

1073
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,940
I can tell you that, you know,

1074
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:26,300
and I know that's not even design

1075
01:36:26,300 --> 01:36:28,300
for this to be able to cover our expenses,

1076
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,640
but I do appreciate it, that's help, you know,

1077
01:36:31,780 --> 01:36:32,280
in this own way.

1078
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,440
But also again, I'm thinking about other households who may not have the same level of privilege

1079
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:39,800
and I think that's a conversation with having as well.

1080
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:41,860
So actually,

1081
01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:47,640
I'm also hopeful for the future of San Pablo.

1082
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:55,100
I know a lot of times, you know, we as a council or as a community may see kind of what's

1083
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:58,380
happening in the community be concerned seeing like, oh, will we have the dollars to fund

1084
01:36:58,380 --> 01:36:58,700
this?

1085
01:36:58,940 --> 01:37:00,320
Will we have the dollars to fund that?

1086
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:07,820
We also have a lot of new revenue generating streams that are coming underway and some of

1087
01:37:07,820 --> 01:37:13,260
them are currently in process so we should be able to see some money generated in a very

1088
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:17,880
near future going back to our city and along with other measures that are being considered

1089
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:26,300
in this upcoming election cycle. So for me actually thinking about it now, yeah I will

1090
01:37:26,300 --> 01:37:28,860
a second, the mayor's position on this.

1091
01:37:30,300 --> 01:37:31,120
Thank you.

1092
01:37:32,140 --> 01:37:38,780
All right, so from a process standpoint, we had an initial motion in the second, and

1093
01:37:38,780 --> 01:37:44,740
then now we have an alternate motion for option number two that was made by the mayor, and

1094
01:37:44,740 --> 01:37:49,660
seconded by Councilmember Pineda from a procedural standpoint.

1095
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:55,080
My recommendation would be, and what you would typically do at this point is to act on the alternate

1096
01:37:55,080 --> 01:38:00,120
motion first. So if the council is going to, if there's no more discussion and there may be discussion,

1097
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:07,740
but if there, there is not any more discussion, then the council would vote on the alternate

1098
01:38:07,740 --> 01:38:14,400
motion, which is option number two, which direct staff to prepare an ordinance and bring it back at

1099
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:24,260
the next meeting. Okay. I do have a question. So shall we? I think there's more public, or there's

1100
01:38:24,260 --> 01:38:27,220
more discussion that it is. That's my

1101
01:38:27,220 --> 01:38:29,660
exhibition has a really are asking

1102
01:38:29,660 --> 01:38:33,660
residents to support the city with

1103
01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:39,560
more funds. I see those tax. He is

1104
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,220
not a good look to give ourselves a

1105
01:38:42,220 --> 01:38:48,520
race. And this graph shows and

1106
01:38:48,520 --> 01:39:00,080
bubbles up near the top. So that's why I gave a second to the first motion plus

1107
01:39:01,870 --> 01:39:13,020
the fact other than my city council income my income is nine hundred dollars a

1108
01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:21,340
month social security. Yet I'm now looking to get more money as a council member.

1109
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:23,540
That's my reasoning.

1110
01:39:24,820 --> 01:39:34,700
Plus, I'm not sure if everybody spends a huge amount of time doing City Council work.

1111
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:38,350
I will not be in the future.

1112
01:39:39,010 --> 01:39:39,250
Thanks.

1113
01:39:43,180 --> 01:39:43,880
May I.

1114
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,280
I would agree with Ms. Vayer.

1115
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,020
Exceed here.

1116
01:39:48,740 --> 01:39:50,200
We already are out of medium.

1117
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,520
According to this chart.

1118
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,540
Historically, we have.

1119
01:39:55,540 --> 01:39:59,240
of we went from 2018 to 2024.

1120
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:24,020
I would say every four years, it's probably better to review this than every two years. And I would rather have this salary increase going to one of our programs, such as our youth, programs, scholarships, etc. So at this moment, I don't think we're at the right time to get an increase.

1121
01:40:28,170 --> 01:40:33,470
However, this $5,000 a year is not an increase.

1122
01:40:33,470 --> 01:40:36,030
I mean, it's not taken away from any program, right?

1123
01:40:36,250 --> 01:40:39,410
I mean, right, not, and it's not potentially going

1124
01:40:39,410 --> 01:40:41,470
to take away from any program.

1125
01:40:41,730 --> 01:40:45,590
We're not, we're not, it's not something

1126
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:48,090
that this raise will do.

1127
01:40:48,910 --> 01:40:51,470
It really will not have a significant impact

1128
01:40:51,470 --> 01:40:54,950
at any of the programs, right?

1129
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:58,010
So, it's pretty good points.

1130
01:41:00,610 --> 01:41:04,490
Can I just, I just, two things to discuss,

1131
01:41:04,490 --> 01:41:07,110
That's why I'm just, again, taking a step back,

1132
01:41:08,150 --> 01:41:11,350
reading the room and also just thinking about this.

1133
01:41:13,010 --> 01:41:15,730
I do, I actually think those are very good points as well.

1134
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,260
I feel like we have two choices here.

1135
01:41:21,700 --> 01:41:24,500
I think right now we're literally in a position

1136
01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:27,400
where we may not reach any agreement.

1137
01:41:27,860 --> 01:41:30,340
We might be split, but I will also say,

1138
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,660
this is actually what I love about public policy

1139
01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:35,180
and you get to see how the sausage is made

1140
01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:41,080
and I feel like I'm getting convinced here actually to maybe go on the other side here so I

1141
01:41:43,710 --> 01:41:44,010
feel like

1142
01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:48,990
again option one I feel like maybe we could continue this conversation when that is here because

1143
01:41:48,990 --> 01:41:55,250
we do have the fifth member that would be a tie breaker for ever came down to a tie and on the other

1144
01:41:55,250 --> 01:42:03,270
side I think Vice Mayor Xavier comes from Rapunzel you guys do bring very good points I don't disagree

1145
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:11,870
with them. I still stand by what I said, though, about kind of like access for other individuals

1146
01:42:11,870 --> 01:42:17,910
that may or may not consider a position like this. I do also hear the comments made by

1147
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:23,930
the mayor, and I think that's very valid, very true. Even for me, on our personal, you

1148
01:42:23,930 --> 01:42:27,830
know, I've always thought that, you know, GOP even in the state of California could be something

1149
01:42:27,830 --> 01:42:33,930
that should be considered an approach because like, say, minimum wage in Fresno,

1150
01:42:33,950 --> 01:42:38,230
Bicelia, doesn't have the same effect as minimum wage here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

1151
01:42:40,090 --> 01:42:49,160
And I will say this, actually, if you guys want to move forward with the initial recommendation

1152
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:54,120
made by Councilmember Ponce and vice mayor, say, that's supported right now.

1153
01:42:54,440 --> 01:42:58,920
If you guys want to continue this conversation for when Arturo comes, I'm also in support

1154
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,280
about as well. I'm happy to go either way with it.

1155
01:43:05,020 --> 01:43:10,900
Okay. So just one more point is that this is not

1156
01:43:10,900 --> 01:43:20,800
about us. That's where I'm at, right? And this is about if a retired person who's only living on

1157
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:26,880
social security of $900 a month and they don't have any other, you know, they pay rent, the rent goes

1158
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:31,940
up no matter what maybe if you were already on your home and you paid it off that $900 is good

1159
01:43:31,940 --> 01:43:43,540
for you but this is a renter who is retired I just don't see why we would not open the doors for

1160
01:43:43,540 --> 01:43:51,940
the retired person who really wants to serve the city that we just can cut that off again it's not

1161
01:43:51,940 --> 01:44:05,710
about us. It's about those that come after us. So, I will be okay with moving this item

1162
01:44:06,150 --> 01:44:12,930
for when I do those here. But I certainly do not want to, I will say no unoption

1163
01:44:12,930 --> 01:44:13,130
one.

1164
01:44:14,970 --> 01:44:22,750
So not the, not the muddy the waters further, but one option for the council is a third

1165
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:28,330
motion in lieu of the first two, which would basically be just direction to staff to

1166
01:44:28,330 --> 01:44:30,910
bring this back again at the next meeting.

1167
01:44:31,250 --> 01:44:31,390
Yeah.

1168
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:34,730
And you can make that motion instead of the first two and vote on that.

1169
01:44:34,730 --> 01:44:40,870
I like to make the motion to move this item for when we have the full council on the

1170
01:44:44,410 --> 01:44:47,990
And I guess I would just clarify that in sort of a request.

1171
01:44:48,650 --> 01:44:56,470
I would just direct us to bring it back at the next meeting with the assumption we'll have the full council instead of wondering if we do or not.

1172
01:44:56,850 --> 01:44:59,830
So I just, yes.

1173
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,260
The motion be just direct staff to bring this back at the next meeting. Okay. Oh, so he has another question.

1174
01:45:10,690 --> 01:45:32,470
Is there a possible way for those that do not want that raise to forego that raise, but for those who want that raise would say yes. I mean, that's an option to do that. I know, I know that sounds. It's statutorily imposed. So once you, once you adopt the ordinance, then you're granting equal raise

1175
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:37,590
is to all council members now you know theoretically can the council member then turn around and you

1176
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:43,850
know donate that to charity do different things of course but um statutorily you're granting a

1177
01:45:43,850 --> 01:45:50,790
raise for the audience for each member of the party so call for the question there's a third motion

1178
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:57,250
made by the mayor to continue this time to 921 when the full council is seated is there a second

1179
01:45:57,250 --> 01:45:58,210
I'm

1180
01:46:05,860 --> 01:46:12,700
not hearing a second to continue this at the next meeting, which then, if I'm hearing correctly, no seconds.

1181
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:22,660
So that brings us back to the last substitute motion that was on the table, which was by Mayor Pabón Alvarado

1182
01:46:22,660 --> 01:46:25,120
and Council Member Pineda.

1183
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:31,900
And that's a motion to direct staff to bring an ordinance back at the next meeting for the full council's consideration.

1184
01:46:31,900 --> 01:46:38,060
option two. So that's option two and again there's already a motion in the second on

1185
01:46:38,060 --> 01:46:42,020
the day. So if the at the council's pleasure you can vote on that.

1186
01:46:44,410 --> 01:46:45,490
This would be to bring

1187
01:46:45,490 --> 01:46:53,330
the ordinance option two. So and again from you know you know this but obviously bringing

1188
01:46:53,330 --> 01:46:59,630
the ordinance back still means you would consider the ordinance at the next meeting. The ordinance

1189
01:46:59,630 --> 01:47:03,370
It's could be voted up or down at the next meeting as well.

1190
01:47:03,850 --> 01:47:07,730
So this is just direction to prepare the ordinance and bring it back to the City Council.

1191
01:47:08,210 --> 01:47:09,830
And then we could bring it back for discussion.

1192
01:47:11,070 --> 01:47:14,350
Well, you would necessarily discuss it.

1193
01:47:14,850 --> 01:47:20,030
If you direct us to prepare the ordinance, then that would be on the next agenda.

1194
01:47:20,610 --> 01:47:26,170
And by, you know, by definition, you would discuss it and you would have to take a vote on

1195
01:47:26,170 --> 01:47:28,450
on whether to introduce that ordinance at the next meeting.

1196
01:47:29,770 --> 01:47:36,310
So this is just directing staff to prepare an ordinance implementing the pay increase.

1197
01:47:36,770 --> 01:47:37,610
Option two.

1198
01:47:37,950 --> 01:47:38,550
Option two.

1199
01:47:38,690 --> 01:47:38,970
Okay.

1200
01:47:39,670 --> 01:47:43,750
And again, the motion by the mayor, seconded by Councilmember Pineda.

1201
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:01,080
So you would draw on your second on that, okay.

1202
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:07,260
So now we're reverted back to the original motion, which was basically to take no action

1203
01:48:07,260 --> 01:48:09,100
and to not bring an ordinance back.

1204
01:48:09,540 --> 01:48:10,000
Option one.

1205
01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:13,780
And this was the motion that was made by Councilmember Ponce

1206
01:48:14,440 --> 01:48:16,540
and seconded by Councilmember Xavier.

1207
01:48:17,140 --> 01:48:20,960
Now, that does not eliminate the fact

1208
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,120
that in two years this will come back

1209
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,540
for another consideration.

1210
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:26,300
That's correct, that's correct.

1211
01:48:26,740 --> 01:48:26,860
Yes.

1212
01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:30,830
What's the pleasure of the council?

1213
01:48:33,060 --> 01:48:34,420
Yeah, you can pull council.

1214
01:48:35,440 --> 01:48:36,000
Yes.

1215
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:38,460
On number one.

1216
01:48:38,860 --> 01:48:39,440
Yes, correct.

1217
01:48:39,740 --> 01:48:40,020
Okay.

1218
01:48:40,020 --> 01:48:43,160
Council Member Ponce, aye.

1219
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,800
Council Member Pineda, aye.

1220
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,220
Vice Mayor Xavier, aye.

1221
01:48:50,340 --> 01:48:55,760
Mayor Pavón Alvarado, no, three to one motion passes.

1222
01:49:01,860 --> 01:49:03,400
Next item is any.

1223
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,020
Vice, I'm sorry.

1224
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,100
City Council assignment report.

1225
01:49:20,750 --> 01:49:23,610
Council Member Ponce, do you have any none for me?

1226
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:24,090
Thank you.

1227
01:49:24,250 --> 01:49:25,230
Council Member Pineda.

1228
01:49:25,230 --> 01:49:26,650
Not for me at the moment.

1229
01:49:26,850 --> 01:49:27,730
Vice Mayor Xavier.

1230
01:49:28,610 --> 01:49:37,750
Actually, I do, because it goes back away to what I asked me the next August 4th was

1231
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:40,070
National Night Out, which we all went to.

1232
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:51,350
On the 6th was the Mayor's Conference, and Oakley on the 7th, I met with Dan Nemeth, Executive

1233
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:59,610
Director of Wicked Act on the 13th was the Wisconsiniform La Suada was hearing the

1234
01:49:59,610 --> 01:49:59,750
Mom.

1235
01:50:00,140 --> 01:50:10,520
There's State Reservoir. August 20th with dad meeting. Tim Hale, executive director of CZTA,

1236
01:50:12,220 --> 01:50:27,000
did a long presentation of a transportation expenditure plan which CZTA plans to bring in 28. August 26th for CZTA.

1237
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:38,980
meeting. So those of us who are now on last transit boards for full rider boards. My

1238
01:50:38,980 --> 01:50:45,920
August 27th was Recycle More meeting, not meeting, but meeting with the Executive

1239
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:56,240
Director, Chris Feldman, meeting just between the two of us. And September 3rd was the

1240
01:50:56,240 --> 01:51:02,540
The CCJ planning committee meeting and CCJ is really busy right now.

1241
01:51:08,590 --> 01:51:08,630
Okay.

1242
01:51:08,810 --> 01:51:10,490
Councilmember Ponce, I have something.

1243
01:51:10,570 --> 01:51:10,790
Yeah.

1244
01:51:10,850 --> 01:51:16,010
I just wanted to take this moment to invite everybody to Hispanic Heritage Parade on Saturday

1245
01:51:16,010 --> 01:51:17,390
the 12th.

1246
01:51:17,390 --> 01:51:23,230
The parade starts at 10 a.m. from Richmond Auditorium and it ends on some parallel and market

1247
01:51:23,230 --> 01:51:30,070
followed by a festival inside of the St. Paul's Church parking lot.

1248
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:35,950
everybody is welcome to come and participate at this annual Hispanic Heritage Parade.

1249
01:51:36,650 --> 01:51:37,430
Thank you.

1250
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:51,110
Okay, so I will adjourn at 802 to the regular City Council session scheduled

1251
01:51:51,110 --> 01:51:57,130
for September 21st, 2026. This adjournment is dedicated to the heartfelt and respectful

1252
01:51:57,130 --> 01:52:03,870
memory of Latanya Fisher, who served as human resources management analyst for the City

1253
01:52:03,870 --> 01:52:06,470
of San Pablo over the course of 28 years.

1254
01:52:06,830 --> 01:52:13,710
Latanya made exemplary contribution in various administrative roles within the city

1255
01:52:13,710 --> 01:52:20,090
manager's office, leaving a lasting legacy of distinction and dedication to the community

1256
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:21,910
and city organization.

1257
01:52:22,730 --> 01:52:23,490
Thank you everyone.

1258
01:52:24,510 --> 01:52:25,270
It is 802.

1259
01:52:26,750 --> 01:52:27,250
We are adjourned.

1260
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:28,170
Thank you, Councillor.

1261
01:52:28,430 --> 01:52:28,870
Thank you, staff.

1262
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:29,390
.