1 00:04:25,278 --> 00:04:27,297 [laughter] 2 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,199 Yeah, I have a 3 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Oh, I'm back there. 4 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:27,800 That's the same. 5 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:53,080 I rescue. 6 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:25,880 You're the 7 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,479 like this. 8 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,880 Remaining 9 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:27,639 Happy. 10 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,200 All right. Apologies for the technical difficulties. Um, so the interpreter 11 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:10,160 didn't hear my earlier [clears throat] comments, so I'll repeat those for the 12 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:14,560 record and then there'll be translation. >> All right. 13 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:18,839 So, thank you, Chair Deviti. Um before we begin, we would like to announce 14 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,360 » change. 15 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,720 » One moment while we change channel. 16 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:41,760 All right. Apologies for that. Um so we would like to announce this 17 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,760 meeting will include Spanish language simultaneous and consecutive inter 18 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:50,480 interpretation pro provided by qualified interpreters on the Spanish channel. If 19 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:54,880 watching on Zoom, you can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the 20 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:59,200 interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar. It looks like a globe. If you're 21 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:04,320 attending in person and don't have access to the Zoom meeting from your 22 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:07,839 mobile device, please see Miss Kimod or myself and we will get you set up with a 23 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:13,040 device so you can listen to the meeting in Spanish. As a reminder, we ask 24 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:20,040 everyone participating tonight to kindly speak slowly to allow our interpreter to 25 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:20,040 effectively express your comments. 26 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:46,680 Zoomlo 27 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,880 mobile. 28 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,440 This meeting is being recorded and members of the public can watch online 29 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:24,440 or listen by phone by calling area code 669-4449171 30 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:31,800 using the meeting ID 9, excuse me, 82218851893. 31 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:39,680 There will be an opportunity for public comment for those participating in 32 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:43,360 person. Each person will have two minutes to provide their comments. We 33 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,880 invite each of you to introduce yourselves by name before presenting 34 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:53,600 your comments. We're also offering closed captioning for this evening's 35 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:58,560 meeting on Zoom. Please select the live transcript button on Zoom to enable this 36 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:03,360 feature. Viewers may request a reasonable accommodation 37 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:08,000 in order to provide public comments virtually. For more information about 38 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:16,920 that or if you experience any technical difficulties, you can email us at pack 39 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:16,920 which is pac city of sanrafll.org. 40 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:28,160 » Okay, great. Thank you for that. Uh, are there any reports from our staff 41 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:33,440 leaison? >> Yes, good evening. Thank you, Chair 42 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:37,839 Dviti. I'm uh happy to report on a couple updates for the committee. First, 43 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:44,240 I want to report on the SAFE's team quarter 2 stats. Uh, SAFE responded to 44 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:49,440 684 calls for service, which is about it's a 45 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:55,600 little over 8% of all the calls during quarter 2 of 2026. And on average, SAFE 46 00:12:52,880 --> 00:13:00,560 is handling about one out of every 11 calls for service. 47 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:07,680 Uh recruitment and personnel update. Uh we currently have five recruits in the 48 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:11,920 police academy. Um we have one is a couple of two of them are scheduled to 49 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:17,440 graduate very soon this month and then three more in December. Um we have four 50 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,800 openings which right now um we are looking really good because we do have 51 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,360 some people in backgrounds and as you know the background process takes a 52 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:29,839 while so it's not guaranteed but we are looking at getting fully staff with the 53 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:36,079 goal being fully staffed in 2027. Um awards and commendations. I do uh I'd 54 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:41,360 love to I'm glad to report out that in July um two of our officers were honored 55 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:46,320 by the Mothers Against Drunk Driving um for their dedication in DUI enforcement. 56 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:49,920 Both officers led the Sanfell Police Department in identifying and arresting 57 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:53,600 impaired drivers, demonstrating their commitment to keeping the community 58 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:59,600 safe. Complaints update. So, um this would be 59 00:13:57,199 --> 00:14:05,760 the report out for a year to date or at least as of July 1st. Um we've had 16 60 00:14:03,199 --> 00:14:13,440 complaints. Um the average complaint time is 20 to from intake to completion 61 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:18,560 is 20 days. Um 11 them 11 of them were procedural complaints, five were conduct 62 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:25,120 complaints. We have two sustained complaints, two were exonerated, six 63 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:29,120 unfounded, five not sustained, and one was incomplete. Just a reminder, an 64 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,240 incomplete is where somebody calls and makes the report and then we try to do 65 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,440 follow-up. This could be one way it could be incomplete. We've tried, we 66 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,120 tried, we tried and they no longer wish to cooperate and there's no way that we 67 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:43,680 can complete the report. It's not enough information. 68 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:48,959 Um, reminder about the upcoming Spanish Police Academy. It is August 26th 69 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:55,600 through October 28th. So, we do have a a full um 70 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:58,720 curriculum. we have a full um class. Um but I just want to remind the the 71 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:08,240 committee that it is going to be going on um applications already closed and 72 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:12,320 that is it. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you, Lieutenant Everly. 73 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:16,320 I [clears throat] will now like to ask the committee for reports from each 74 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:20,720 member. I will start with member Camina, please. 75 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:25,839 » Thank you. >> I'm not sure. Um yes um this um month 76 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:31,680 and two months actually since we had time off I celebrated Junth on on the 77 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:37,360 19th of June with some members of the black community. On the 24th I attended 78 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:43,199 although briefly the voices of canal wonderful event that our member Darlene 79 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:48,959 and friends put on in the canal. I um dropped by the centerfall high school 80 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:53,690 truck day and um also did some national night out with neighbors. So that's my 81 00:15:51,839 --> 00:15:56,880 my report for the time. Thank [clears throat] you. 82 00:15:54,399 --> 00:16:02,639 » Thank you very much. Uh let's go to member Newan, please. 83 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:09,759 » I don't have any report. >> Okay. Thank you, member Rodas. 84 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:14,360 » I have no reports. >> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz. 85 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:27,040 Yes, I have I have many but I want to I have a 86 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:33,199 meeting in July 25 about immigration and uh multicultural 87 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:39,839 was very important for our community in canal and the other uh we had a national 88 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:46,959 out with poses canal and canal. Thank you so much for uh everybody coming stay 89 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:53,839 with us. Thank you. That's it. >> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi, 90 00:16:50,720 --> 00:17:00,079 » just a quick one last two weeks just uh word of mouth inviting a lot of the 91 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:07,360 community's folks to our meetings. Um especially in the canal. Um, 92 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:14,720 but I think moving forward I'm going to I'm going to ask the the the committee 93 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:18,640 if if we can have sort like a a drafted flyer with all the dates of our 94 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:25,360 remainders, you know, of our meeting remainders. So when we do outreach um 95 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:31,520 just to pass it on to people um with also word of mouth just we we want to 96 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:35,840 see we want to see our folks here too you know to come to because it's a 97 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:41,160 meeting for them. So >> thank you. Thank you sir. Alterate 98 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,160 member locks. 99 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:50,559 » Oh kiddo um I attended the canal alliance meeting 100 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:54,960 and that or community community gathering and that was like I 101 00:17:53,200 --> 00:18:00,799 had a lot of good company but I had excellent food. Yes, much excellent food 102 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:10,880 and that was June 24th. And then I wanted to say that um on uh July 19th 103 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:18,240 that I wanted to commend um I had called for a safety check for a friend in West 104 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:22,240 End West End San Rafll and I wanted to commend Sergeant Scott. 105 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:25,360 Is that how you pronounce his name? Engles 106 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:30,400 who uh attended this residence with me and 107 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:36,720 we had to take care of a friend who was found down who is in rehab now. And uh I 108 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:42,640 like to bring forward good things as well as things that need uh constructive 109 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:47,679 criticisms for. And I just wanted to say thank you that I'm going to be doing the 110 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:55,919 Nicole virtual training on September 23rd and December 10th and that the 111 00:18:51,200 --> 00:19:02,320 annual Nicole event this year will be in um November. November. Yeah, November. 112 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:08,960 Uh in but that will be in Louisville, Kentucky. So, I won't be attending that 113 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:12,799 one, you know. And um let's see. I think I think that's all for now. I think 114 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:17,039 there'll be maybe time to comment further when we get into some of the 115 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,440 » the communications and things. Thank you. 116 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:26,880 » Thank you very much. Alternate member Valdez. Um um I I was absent on a June 117 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:33,200 meeting, but I went to a meeting similar like uh Darling mentioned and I learned 118 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:39,600 a lot at that meeting because uh I I could like 119 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:45,520 I sorry I have to yeah they explain all what the Marine Response Network do and 120 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:50,960 it's a lot because they they help the families with the that are facing rep 121 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,440 deportation or separation with event and other other 122 00:19:52,960 --> 00:20:01,760 a lot of services and they work with another agencies and nonprofits too. 123 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:06,880 Also that day I shared the document that staff prepare about fire police 124 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:11,919 department collaborating with ICE. On June 24 I was part of the oral board 125 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:19,360 interview for a dispatcher. I also attended the awas frescas with a cup um 126 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:24,400 bosses the canal and On August 4, I visited some of the 127 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,200 stations for National Night Out. Thank you. 128 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:34,080 » Thank you. Uh and as for me, um I went and attended uh the event at the 129 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:38,559 Pickleweed Park for the World Cup soccer final game. It was really nice to be 130 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:43,679 amongst the community in the canal. Uh just to be around people, just unite 131 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:48,720 over uh something that big. Um I attended Touch a Truck event. I was at 132 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:54,080 the coffee with the cup and I noticed that uh Mr. Tokahi and also Newman were 133 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:59,840 also there and encourage more of us to attend at the future uh coffee with a 134 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:03,679 cup uh event. I also uh discovered this new organization called Karma Club. Also 135 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,400 have an organization called Cove. They're both uh connected. It's an 136 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:12,480 afterchool program for kids. It's a drop in. It's free. It's a place for kids to 137 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:17,520 hang out after school. They get tutoring. They get a place to eat. uh 138 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:21,360 it's a place to connect uh and it's at free of charge and it's in the Northgate 139 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:28,320 mall so it was nice to see that space get filled with people coming together 140 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:32,720 and that will conclude uh my report and uh next I will see if are there any 141 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,600 public comments on the staff and the community leaison 142 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:50,400 Hello everyone. Nice to see you. Hope you're having a good summer. It was nice 143 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:56,799 to have a month off. Hope you enjoyed that as well. Um I wanted to say that 144 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:00,720 the updates are still kind of hard to follow around the complaints and that's 145 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,880 one of the major reasons you all are here. um to look into complaints to see 146 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:10,159 how the community is feeling about the police department. I heard buried in 147 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,240 there that two were sustained, but we don't know what that means. Like we 148 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:19,679 don't know, was that a policy violation? Was that a misconduct violation? Um so I 149 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:24,240 think it makes sense for you all to know what those are when they investigate 150 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:27,440 themselves and they find that something has been violated or something has been 151 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,919 done that's not in alignment with department values. That's the kind of 152 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:36,000 thing you all are here um to investigate. And I didn't hear any 153 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:39,600 questions about that or any clarification on that. I still feel like 154 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,440 that's a laundry list that's hard to write down and hard to follow. And I 155 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:47,760 know it's posted on the website, but that also is what I call a nothing 156 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:52,240 sandwich. It doesn't tell you anything. So, please ask questions and get more 157 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:57,440 more information. I was happy to hear tonight that a lot of you in your 158 00:22:53,919 --> 00:23:02,159 updates did talk about policing related things 159 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:07,919 um that you attended um because that and if you if your 160 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,000 outreach is to tell people to come to this meeting where y'all haven't done a 161 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,520 lot I don't know what the purpose of that is but I would say if you're 162 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:21,120 talking to people and inviting them here you can surely bring their concerns here 163 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:26,320 » because as we've said before a lot of people feel intimidated to come into 164 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:32,080 city hall to a committee that sits on a dis where there are police in the room 165 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:35,600 the chief lieutenant um and so bring their concerns here that's what you all 166 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:40,559 are supposed to be doing thank you oh and one more thing that dropin place for 167 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:45,120 kids is 13 and up so it's not like little kids it's teenagers I believe 168 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,120 » yes thank you for clarifying Okay. 169 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Okay. Um I will now go to Terresa. Do we have any public comment via Zoom? 170 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,880 » We do not. >> Okay. Uh there's no So I will close 171 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,640 public comment. Um 172 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:12,080 I'd like to Are there any questions on the draft from minutes from the 173 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:17,200 committee? I will ask in this order. Member Camino. 174 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:20,960 No questions. I did review them. >> Thank you. Uh, member Newan, 175 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,120 » no question. >> Member Rodas, 176 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,279 » no questions. >> Member Ruiz, 177 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,600 » no questions. >> Member Tokahi, 178 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:31,039 » no questions. >> Alternate member locks, 179 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,760 » no questions. >> No questions. 180 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,840 » Thank you. Alternate member Valdez, >> no questions. 181 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:43,799 » And I have no questions. Um, are there any public comments on the draft 182 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:43,799 minutes? 183 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,279 I >> from the committee. Yeah. Public 184 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:57,080 comments on draft minutes. I don't I don't see any. I will go to uh Teresa. 185 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Are there any public comment via Zoom? 186 00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:04,799 » No. >> No. Okay. I will close public comment. I 187 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:08,400 will ask are there any comments from the committee in this order? Uh member 188 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:13,520 Camino. >> No comments. Thank you. 189 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,760 » Member Newan. No comment. >> Member Rolas. 190 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,159 » No comments. >> Member Ruiz. 191 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,240 » No comments. >> Member Tokahi. 192 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,960 » No comments. >> Alter. Member Locks. 193 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:33,679 » My only comments are I have reviewed minutes from a variety of committees 194 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:40,880 uh in San Rafll and throughout the county. And even though there is this 195 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:46,640 style of minute taking, I feel that our minutes 196 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:53,120 don't always reflect what has occurred. And I would like to 197 00:25:50,159 --> 00:26:00,159 have us uh work on that or look at some other um examples of minute uh minutes 198 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:08,039 that are provided throughout San Rafll and the county. even though we are 199 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,039 following the um the BCC guidelines. 200 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:15,760 » Thank you. Uh alternate member Valdez. >> No comments. 201 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:19,840 » And I have no comments. Uh I would like to ask for a motion to accept the 202 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:26,000 meeting minutes. Uh can I ask for a second? 203 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:30,480 » Second. Did someone >> I'm sorry. 204 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:34,279 » I need a motion. So we could Okay. May I ask a question? 205 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,279 » Yes. 206 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,840 » Are there seven regular members present? That was what I was going to ask. And if 207 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,880 any of the alternatives are doing any votes today. Thank you. 208 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,960 » Thank you for that question. So, member locks, you'll be voting in place of 209 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,960 member Alm who's absent today. >> Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. I 210 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,679 would like to ask for a motion to accept the meeting minutes. 211 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,400 » Motion to approve. >> Okay. Can I ask for a second? 212 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:03,360 » I second. >> Okay. No, let's throw it to member 213 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,240 locks. Thanks for seconding that. U I would like to ask staff for roll call, 214 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,720 please. >> All right, member locks. 215 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,200 » Yes. >> Member Kamina, 216 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:15,440 » yes. Approved. >> Member Nuen, 217 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 » yes. >> Rodas, 218 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,799 » yes. >> Member Ruiz, 219 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,880 » yes. >> Member Tokahi, 220 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:22,400 » approved. >> And Chair Devidi, 221 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,600 » yes. >> And that motion passes. 222 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,520 » Thank you so much. Uh, I'd like to invite public comments. Are there any 223 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:33,159 public comments on any matter that's not listed on the agenda? 224 00:27:41,099 --> 00:27:43,119 [clears throat] 225 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:53,679 Hello. Hello again everyone. Um I just you have in your packet my ongoing list 226 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:58,960 of things. I feel like this meeting is one and done each time and we don't 227 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:05,440 circle back um to things that have been left open and I would get a bad 228 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:11,760 performance review at work if I did that like it feels like things just float off 229 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:15,679 into the sunset. So there are things that have 230 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:21,760 come we have talked about. I mean you can read it if you want. I hope you 231 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:26,720 will. Um police culture is something that has been talked about since the 232 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:31,679 beginning. Your committee could say to the chief, I want you to go back and 233 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:37,120 talk to your union and see about doing a survey to find out how your officers 234 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:41,039 feel about the culture, how they would describe the culture. you could, you're 235 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:47,360 allowed to ask him to do that. And he's been, he 236 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:53,440 has offered many times to just ask me or get involved or take action outside of 237 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:58,000 this meeting. Um, the newly formed Civilian Oversight Commission for the 238 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Sheriff's Office has formed a bunch of ad hoc committees to look into things, 239 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:08,960 to look at flock camera usage, um, to look at what's going on in the 240 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:15,039 department, um, so that they can make recommendations in partnership with the 241 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:20,720 community to make it better for everyone, which is what what you're here 242 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:26,799 for. Um I did also want to bring attention to the great presentation we 243 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:34,080 had at the last meeting um from youth transforming justice. Um and to kind of 244 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:40,320 tell you committee member tookai that I think the comment that you made was 245 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:44,559 reckless about youth crime spiking and it was also false. I did research after 246 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,520 we left. I think when you have a position of power being on this 247 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:51,840 committee and you say things like that that aren't true, it's reckless. And if 248 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,600 you have data to prove what you said, because I have data to prove it's false, 249 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,840 please share it with me. >> Thank you. 250 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:14,799 » Good evening, committee members. Um, I don't have much to say other than if 251 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:19,120 someone asked me what the pack does, I wouldn't know how to respond to that 252 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:24,000 because I'm not quite sure what it is you guys do except meet here 253 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,480 um, however often it is that you meet here monthly, I think it is. And but 254 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:33,360 other than that, it's like what what are you guys doing? And so for me it gets 255 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:39,440 really frustrating because it just seems like this has become a performative 256 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:44,000 committee like oh yeah here we are you know accountability collaboration with 257 00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:49,039 the community but I don't know if you guys are really doing that and like 258 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:53,120 Heidi said um there's a civilian oversight commission which I serve as 259 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:58,000 vice chair. I'm speaking in my own capacity today but when something gets 260 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,600 brought up to us we form a subcommittee. We might not have all the answers, but 261 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,279 we're going to go find answers. We're going to talk to people. We're going to 262 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:10,880 talk to subject matter experts and get more information to formulate a either a 263 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:16,960 recommendation if need be or just a report back to the public that's 264 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:21,039 bringing concerns to us. And I suggest that you guys utilize that. You know, 265 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:25,520 maybe all of you don't have time to do all of the work, but in little groups, 266 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:32,399 you guys could do a lot. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. 267 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:34,880 I see no further public comment. Uh M Teresa, is there anything on 268 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:41,360 » We have no comments online. >> Okay. Uh let me just do that. Okay. I 269 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:47,240 will now close uh public comment. And before we move to regular agenda, let's 270 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,240 break to toggle the interpreters. 271 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Okay, we can proceed. 272 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:54,799 Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now for the big 273 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:59,120 attraction here. Um our agenda today is homelessness. And I will ask Teresa to 274 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,679 introduce our uh presenters, please. >> Sure. Good evening, Cheriti and fellow 275 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:08,320 pack members uh to bring some historical context to the topic this evening. It's 276 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:13,279 an update on homelessness. As you recall, at the January 10th, 2026 study 277 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:18,159 session, the committee identified party topics for the year, one of which was 278 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:21,039 homelessness. This is a followup additionally to the original 279 00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:27,440 presentation that was provided in October of 2024 and again with an update 280 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:31,760 that was received May 21st of 2025. This evening we have community services 281 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:36,080 director Daniel Coopermanman and Lyn Murphy mental health liaison here to 282 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:42,760 present in more detail on the topic. So at this time I'll turn the presentation 283 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,760 over to those folks. Thank you. 284 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,480 » Good evening. Thank you for having us. It's nice to see you. It does not feel 285 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:57,399 like it was over a year ago that we were here talking about homelessness, but um 286 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,399 nice to see you again. 287 00:33:57,728 --> 00:34:02,240 » [clears throat] >> All right, and we'll jump right into it. 288 00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:07,039 We have a brief presentation and slide deck for you guys tonight. And let's get 289 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:13,200 going if I can. There we go. Um, so just for a 290 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:18,480 little background context, uh, in front of you here, we have the 2024 point in 291 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:24,879 time count. Um, there is a caveat. Obviously, we're in 2026 right now. And 292 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:29,599 so, um, the county led the 2026 point in time count and we're expecting those 293 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:35,200 results to come out very shortly, potentially this month, if not next. Um, 294 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:39,440 so the data is old. Um, but what you see in front of you is a little over a 295 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:45,839 thousand folks um unsheltered within the county um with over 300 of them 296 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:50,639 sheltered. Um, the the rest of them living in a place not meant for human 297 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:57,040 habitation. Um you can see San Rafale has 326 out of those 1090 within the 298 00:34:54,720 --> 00:35:02,560 county and then um also in front of you Nevada's numbers um with the other large 299 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:07,520 population coming from unincorporated Marin County. Um, as you can see, 300 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:13,520 there's a decrease in chronically homeless individuals as that's been a 301 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:19,920 main focus um in the homeless response system, as well as a 32% decrease in 302 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:23,280 homeless veterans across the county. Um, and so for those who aren't familiar, 303 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:28,320 the point in time count is sort of the main data point for how we measure 304 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:34,320 how the homeless response system is doing. Um it's not it's conducted 305 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:39,520 throughout the country in every county. Um some entities do it every year, but 306 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:44,320 most entities do it every other year. Um and so that's what led to the 2026 307 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:51,359 count. Um it's not a perfect count by any means. Uh it's a one it's a snapshot 308 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:56,800 point in time as it alludes to. Um and so there's different ideologies about 309 00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:02,000 how accurate it is to the total number. um as well as you know the es and flows 310 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:07,839 throughout the year. So that's that data and then on to um our response within 311 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:14,880 the city. Many of you already know that uh in 312 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:20,640 2024, October of 2024, we stood up the sanctioned camping area or the SCA 313 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:27,760 um on the northern part of Mahome Creek Path. Uh it's right near the Sprouts um 314 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:36,079 shopping center. Um this is our interim transitional shelter. Um we've got 55 315 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:40,720 tent cubicles. So they are more like a room than a tent. They do not have any 316 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:47,520 domed ceilings. So when you walk in your cubicle you can stand upright. 317 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:54,560 Um onsite we've got 24/7 um security uh site management that 318 00:36:51,680 --> 00:37:01,200 provides um transportation for people who need to go to a service. Um they 319 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:05,119 transport to um medical appointments, treatment appointments, mental health 320 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,839 appointments. They've been a fantastic partner to us. They've built a lot of 321 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:16,320 community within the members um living on site. They hold weekly town hall 322 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:23,760 meetings um which gives people living at the sea the opportunity to bring 323 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:28,720 concerns to the site management um and it's an opportunity for people to just 324 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:35,680 gather together in a social way. They have pizza um and they can advocate for 325 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:41,920 for what they want on site. Um, we also have case management for 326 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:47,839 everybody who's living in the SCA. That case management, you might remember, is 327 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:54,000 that it's like the guiding hand um to help folks get all of their documents 328 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:58,960 ready to help them um move through the process to get into housing. 329 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:07,280 Um the next step post uh FCA is our interim 330 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:16,160 shelter at 350 Midale, which Daniel's going to talk about in more detail. Um 331 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:22,560 we will have uh actual cabins with roofs and doors that lock with electricity, 332 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:29,440 air conditioning, and heating. Um the schedule is 333 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:34,000 looking like Well, I'll let Daniel get to that. We're a little behind schedule. 334 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:39,359 Um the target to open is still fall of 335 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:44,400 2026. Uh everybody who is at the sanctioned camping area is eligible to 336 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:50,640 move into the Midell site. Um and people are excited about it. It's um it's 337 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:57,760 definitely a big step up being able to have a door that locks um and have 338 00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:06,079 power. We'll have office space. Um we'll have a little substation for patrol on 339 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:12,560 site. Um so that's coming together. Um the plan to transition up to Midale is 340 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:18,400 to move people in smaller groups. So we're not taking 55 people all at one 341 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:26,160 time. So we'll move I don't think we've determined the number but let's say 8 to 342 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:31,599 10 at a time to get people moved up in a in a very thoughtful 343 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:36,400 organized fashion. Not just okay here we go. Um, 344 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:41,839 and we will continue to have all of those same services at Meridell. So, the 345 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:47,760 case management, um, the ability to meet in private with your case manager in a 346 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:51,520 an office with air conditioning, um, so people aren't listening to your your 347 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:59,119 private conversations. Um, and we are really looking forward to 348 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:03,320 that opening up and um, fingers crossed it will be happening very soon. 349 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:16,800 Um and just a little more overview. So it's 65 tiny homes that will be on site. 350 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:22,240 Um and so this is made possible um with a city county partnership. Uh the county 351 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:27,280 contributed to purchase the site at 350 Midale 352 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:32,560 um which is very exciting. Marin has one of sort of the lower availability of 353 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:35,680 shelter beds within the Bay Area. Um so it's something that's really needed in 354 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:41,599 terms of just being able to have some immediate response. Um besides the folks 355 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:47,119 at the sanctioned camping area, um folks who are on Anderson Drive, I'm sure you 356 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:52,320 guys have all been by that. Some of those folks will also be participating 357 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:57,119 in the program. Um, and at that time we will actually be closing down the 358 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:01,119 Anderson uh drive encampment um as part of the camping ordinance changes that 359 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:08,000 were made a few months ago at city council. Um we're certainly not the 360 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:12,000 first uh jurisdiction to to launch a tiny home village. Um but it's very 361 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:16,319 exciting and a good step forward for folks especially as the winter months 362 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,880 are coming up. So we're very excited. Um, and as Lynn mentioned, this is truly 363 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:26,960 just focused on a place to recover and provide folks a 364 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:34,240 path um to permanent housing. So, this is a interm temporary step for folks. 365 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:38,880 And for a little view, uh, as you can see, here's what the site layout's going 366 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:43,839 to look like. Um, give or take, you know, some minor changes here. Um, so 367 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:48,319 you can see uh each one of these little boxes that you see is that those are 368 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:54,640 actually two tiny homes. So the design of it is basically one large uh shipping 369 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:01,440 container that's split down the middle. Each unit will be about 70 square feet. 370 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:06,079 Um, and so on the screen you'll see 65, well actually 66 because one of them 371 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:13,040 will will be used as an office. Um, we'll have restrooms, showers, 372 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:18,800 uh, an area for a pet run, ADA access. Um, and this building in the middle will 373 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:23,359 be program space, office space, uh, community center. We're, um, in the 374 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:29,280 midst of designing sort of the interior layout of that, um, which the folks at 375 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:34,240 RCA are excited about being able to have those because currently at the SCA that 376 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:38,640 is not a possibility. Um and then finally once everyone transitions uh 377 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:45,079 bringing the Mahome path back to its intended use um is sort of that final 378 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,079 step of that transition. 379 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,960 And I know Lieutenant Everly already talked a little bit about the safety, 380 00:42:52,240 --> 00:43:03,920 but we're going to do a little bit of a deeper dive here. Um, this data is from 381 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:07,200 January 2026 through June of 2026. Um, 382 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:11,520 we we've I enjoy working with them quite a 383 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:16,480 bit. We share an office space and we have a fair amount of overlap. So, it's 384 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:21,119 been really great working with them. Um, they've contacted,37 385 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:26,800 individuals um who identified as unhoused. 386 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:32,960 Um, let's see here. 95 were referred to 387 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:39,119 outside services. Uh, 95 of their contacts. So, an outside service might 388 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:45,520 be Helenvine Detox. It might be um Marin Treatment Center. It could be um taking 389 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,560 them to see their case manager. um they're they're very flexible and as 390 00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:55,839 long as they are going to a staffed service could be an AA meeting um they 391 00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:04,240 can transport. So [snorts] their goal is really to determine what the need is and 392 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:09,839 help them get that need met. um diversions from the emergency 393 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:16,720 emergency department, the jail, and an ambulance ride was at 168, which is 394 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:25,520 really pretty remarkable. Um if you think about um pre-safe, if somebody um 395 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:31,280 had I mean a spider bite, I see a lot of spider bites in my travels um and they 396 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:36,480 were taken to the emergency department. it's not really the best use of our 397 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:44,400 resources. Instead, the safe team could take them to the Ritter Clinic where 398 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:48,640 they could be seen right in town um and get the medication that they need and 399 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:57,119 fill that prescription at Walgreens across the street. Um and they responded 400 00:44:53,280 --> 00:45:00,359 to 95 suicidal subject calls in those six months. 401 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:11,920 And that's it for our presentation tonight. Um, and we're here for any 402 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:15,839 questions or comments. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Thank you for your 403 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:19,440 presentation. Thanks Q for coming back. Please come back more often. We love 404 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:24,240 hearing from you guys. Appreciate what you guys do. Um, I would like to uh see 405 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:28,560 if there's any questions. So right now it's just the time for questions uh on 406 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:32,000 the presentation. I will start with member Camina. 407 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:34,800 » Welcome. >> You gota wait your turn, girl. 408 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,000 » No. >> Okay, member Camina. 409 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,599 » Awkward that way. >> Thank you for being here. Thank you for 410 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:48,480 the work that you do. Um I I think you answered one of my questions, which will 411 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:54,319 happen to the the the camp, not the Anderson Drive, but the other camp after 412 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:58,400 the Mary Dale is completed. >> They're closing it. 413 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:01,680 » Yeah. So it will get returned back to its intended use. So a walking bike 414 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,359 path. >> Okay. And then um one of the questions I 415 00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:13,280 have which unfortunately comes up in the newspaper more than the good programs 416 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:19,359 are the issue the incidents of violence in the Anderson area. And I'm wondering 417 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:25,480 if you how often you see that incidents of 418 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480 violence. 419 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:37,680 The incidents that you've seen in the newspaper are really the incidents that 420 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:42,160 are the biggest on our radar as well. So on a day-to-day basis, we're not seeing 421 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:49,920 the types of things that you know you read about in the headlines. those were 422 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:56,079 pretty um isolated incidents and I think it just goes to show that unsanctioned 423 00:46:53,599 --> 00:47:01,040 unorganized campsites are not good for anybody 424 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:09,359 um and that the sanctioned camping area has not experienced that type of um the 425 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:14,240 violence and so if anything it's I would like it to be a reason why don't we have 426 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:18,319 more of these sanctioned camping areas because it's the outcomes are much 427 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:23,599 better. >> Thank you so much. 428 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:26,599 » Thank you. I will go to member new please. 429 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:36,800 » Well, I just have a question like so the people 430 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:43,440 uh like you take the registrations and people had to fill a form before moving 431 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:49,040 to the shelters and you have uh like the the list of people like manage in the 432 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:56,000 orders of people. So you have the name of everything is in order, right? So 433 00:47:51,760 --> 00:48:04,880 that's good. I just I just wonder. Yeah. Yes. So um we have um people agree 434 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:09,440 to a code of conduct. Um they do an intake form. There's paperwork that they 435 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:13,440 sign in order to be enrolled in coordinated entry, which is the 436 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:18,160 countyy's system to get people into housing. Um, so it's a it's a fair 437 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:23,119 amount of paperwork and that's what the case manager is. That's their job to 438 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:28,800 help them to understand what it is they're signing. For some people, 439 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:34,160 signing a piece of paper is like, why am I signing this? What am I giving away? 440 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:38,240 Um, so the case manager explains what it is they're actually 441 00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:44,319 signing. Uh, and they don't have to sign it in some cases. So, but for the code 442 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:46,880 of conduct, if you want to be in the the Meridale site, you do have to sign the 443 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:51,440 code of conduct. >> I'll also add all those forms are 444 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:56,079 available on our website under the homelessness page. Um, so they are 445 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,359 available for public consumption if you ever want to take a look. 446 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:03,280 » What's that website? It's the city of San Rafale. Uh, and then you just click 447 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,160 the tab for homelessness. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, 448 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,760 » I will when you're done. >> Yeah. 449 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,440 » I will go to a member Rodas. >> Yeah. I want to say thank you guys for 450 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:19,920 your presentation, for being here. Um, my question is how are individuals 451 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:26,160 chosen for the Maryale shelter and what happens to those who are denied a spa? 452 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:30,319 » Uh, that's a really good question. I think, you know, 453 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:35,119 maybe it's not a misconception, but Marielle is not going to end 454 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:41,040 homelessness in Sanfell or the county by any means, right? It's certainly a right 455 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:45,599 step that is necessary um and is going to be beneficial. Um part of our 456 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,640 agreement with the county is that over the life of the interim shelter, um that 457 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:55,839 only 70 individuals are going to be served. So, I presented earlier 326 and 458 00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:01,040 70. You can see there's a little gap there. Um so for folks and the way 459 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:07,520 they're chosen is basically we receive state funding to stand up the sanctioned 460 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:13,119 camp um the sanctioned camping area and so we have a basically an outreach list 461 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:17,920 and so we worked with the county on that um on top of that we just applied for 462 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:22,400 subsequent funding. So we basically have a select list based on you know outreach 463 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:27,440 that Lynn did and other um service providers. Um and so that's how folks 464 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:34,240 are going to be selected. >> And then and then um are there are there 465 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:40,240 other options? So somebody's not accepted into into Midell. Is is there 466 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:46,800 somewhere else we can offer them a place to stay? 467 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:53,440 We have our shelter um at 190 Mil Street that's run by Homewardbound. Um 468 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,920 it's not enough beds. So that is the alternative. Homewardbound does a really 469 00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:02,800 good job of trying to move people from Jonathan's place 470 00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:09,040 um up to Neato to their new beginnings campus which is a longer term shelter. 471 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:17,119 Um so we have more openings available on an emergency basis but the demand far 472 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:22,000 exceeds the capacity. So it's it's definitely not the solution that we 473 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:32,079 would like to have. Right. Okay. And then one last question. 474 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:37,440 Um, what happens when the uh the SCA shelter by the snake path is closed? I'm 475 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,200 going to make an assumption that people are probably still going to continue to 476 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:45,359 come back. Is that path going to be patrolled or is there going to be some 477 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:49,440 enforcement about anti-housing there? Um, or anti, you know, setups. 478 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:54,400 » Encampments. Yes. >> Yeah. So the whole path under our 479 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:58,000 current camping ordinance has a is not zoned for camping. So there's currently 480 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:05,839 no camping. So once it's sort of restored um it will be addressed as any 481 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:09,920 other encampment that pops up um within the city. 482 00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:18,240 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz. 483 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:24,880 Um, I have a question about the person living in Anderson Street no more or 484 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:29,119 they are still living in inerson. 485 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:34,640 » Thanks. They are still living on Anderson Drive. 486 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:41,599 » Once Midale is open then camping will not be allowed on Anderson Drive. 487 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:44,400 » Okay. But what going to happen with them? 488 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:50,319 » That's That's a good question. I mean, we can we always look for other options. 489 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:57,920 So, if that's family reunification, we have a program where people can if 490 00:52:53,359 --> 00:53:01,839 they have somebody that lives say in another state or another part of 491 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:06,160 California, we can pay for family reunification. 492 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:09,599 Um, but a lot of times people, they want to stay here if they've been here for a 493 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:15,040 long time. They can, you know, this is home. Um, 494 00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:20,240 so we we try to be creative and look at other options. So, is there a way that 495 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:25,920 we could find um a shared living environment where you could rent out a 496 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:31,280 room? Um, and it's it can be a challenge, but 497 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:38,640 we'll look at every possible option. Residential treatment, um, 498 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:43,359 inhome caregiving. So, it's it's going to be a challenge. No doubt. 499 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:49,280 » And just to add on, some of the folks on Anderson will um move into the Midell 500 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,960 Interm Shelter. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you so much for your 501 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:58,079 answer. >> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi, 502 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:04,000 » I have one [clears throat] regarding the safety and my questions will al also 503 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:10,400 relate to an earlier report from one of the staff. Um I think he mentioned 504 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:17,200 something about the safe team handles one out of 11 call. 505 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:22,480 » My concern is who's handled the other 10 because I I know there's only one safe 506 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:30,720 team and there's not so many of them. I also understand there's no other 507 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:36,319 um outreach team like I know the downtown street team is out. Um, also 508 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:41,520 the care team is out. They're not around anymore. So, I don't know who else is 509 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:46,800 doing outreach regarding the safety in one person. 510 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:53,440 » Yeah. Um, so I'm out there. Um, but the other 10 calls are handled by patrol. 511 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:58,880 So, if it's a call for service, SAFE is responding to 512 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:04,400 one out of 11. So patrol, let's say it's um a welf call 513 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:09,359 for a welfare check, but somebody is swinging a baseball bat. So safe would 514 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:14,400 not go to that call because there's the potential for violence. So that would be 515 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:20,400 handled by patrol. So we're we're not looking at all of the 516 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:24,880 calls that um safe that would qualify as a safe call. Does that make sense? So 517 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,880 we're just looking at overall calls for service. 518 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:34,400 So some of them didn't qualify for >> Right. Right. I'm I I'm just worried 519 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:39,359 about >> I can jump in and hope not for you that 520 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:43,440 the police >> the 521 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,599 statistic given one in 111. So the number of calls that the safety team 522 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:53,280 handled in quarter 2 was 684. That equates that 684 number equates to one 523 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:57,280 out of every 11 total calls for service that come into the police department. 524 00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:01,680 And as Lynn was alluding to, that doesn't necessarily mean all of those 525 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:06,160 are safe calls. It means that they're handling one out of every 11 calls for 526 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:10,799 service that normally would go to a police officer that do qualify as a safe 527 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,960 team. So, it was just to try to frame the productivity of the team and how 528 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,280 much that they're handling. On average, as been reported annually, they're 529 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,480 handling a little over 8% of all calls for service. 530 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:28,400 » Okay. >> Did that clarify? Yeah. 531 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:33,720 » Okay. Uh, thank you. Thank you. I'll go to now alternate member locks. 532 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:46,319 I just want Thank you. It was excellent. Uh, one of your slides I would like for 533 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:56,280 you to clarify the description. It said only 70 unique. 534 00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:56,280 What do you mean by that? 535 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:07,599 » I'll take that one. Um, so that means 70 individuals. So there's 65 units. So 536 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:12,880 only 65 folks will be on site at one time. Over the life of the interimm 537 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:19,480 shelter, only 70 individuals from that curated list that I mentioned will be in 538 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,480 the program over time. 539 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,400 That's a clarification of the word unique. 540 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:28,880 » Yeah, just individual. Yeah. >> Okay. 541 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:34,480 » Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you, Alter Member Valdez. 542 00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:37,920 » My question has have been answered. So, thank you. 543 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:41,760 » Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you again. Uh you mentioned there's going to be a 544 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:45,200 patrol um someone patrol at the Midell. Is that an SRPD? Is that a private 545 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:49,160 security? Can you elaborate on who's this patrol individual? 546 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:57,520 Um, we're looking at a substation like Pickleweed Park has a substation. Uh, 547 00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:02,799 Northgate Mall had a an office where patrol could go and write reports. They 548 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:09,280 could have their lunch there if they're in the Terinda um beat. So, with 549 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:14,880 Northgate Mall being demolished and rebuilt, um, we're going to have a 550 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:18,160 similar type of office at Midell. >> Thank you. Um that may have answered my 551 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,640 next question because some of the neighborhood around the Midell Fernwood 552 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:27,920 they raised concern around homeless people and out being about I'm just 553 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:33,839 sharing what I'm hearing. Uh you have any comment around that their concerns 554 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:38,319 around this issue safety in regards to safety? 555 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:44,880 » Um sure. Yes. And we've certainly heard their concerns now since uh 556 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:49,520 October of last year. So, um I think through a series of uh community 557 00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:54,799 meetings and a ton of engagement um since October of last year, we've tried 558 00:58:53,119 --> 00:59:00,400 to work with the community as best we can to, you know, make it one a place 559 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,760 that everyone is comfortable. So, folks who are in the program, folks who are 560 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:07,599 living in the neighborhood or businesses, 561 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:12,960 um our doors have remained open for communication. And so sort of where we 562 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:16,799 landed is trying to meet everyone's needs as best as possible while 563 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:23,119 understanding there's a lot of unique needs um from 564 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:28,960 different populations, right? And so I think once the program gets going, the 565 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:34,079 comfortability and sort of responsiveness will make everyone feel a 566 00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:38,000 little more comfortable. Um, but the unknown is unknown at this point as 567 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:43,920 we're still talking about a project that's not right not here at the moment. 568 00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:47,520 Thank you. I have two more questions. Uh, my other question is around the 569 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,520 business community. One of the things that I hear from them is like, you know, 570 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,799 again, I'm playing maybe business devil's ad. One of the things they say 571 00:59:53,200 --> 01:00:00,400 is like we have a lot of nonprofits in downtown San Rafale area um that they're 572 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:04,880 saying like doesn't this attract more homeless to downtown San Rafale? So, how 573 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,680 would you respond to something like that? 574 01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:11,200 » That just to [clears throat] clarify that having nonprofits downtown attracts 575 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,839 more people >> that cater to the homeless demographic 576 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:19,440 brings in more homeless to downtown San Rafale. 577 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,440 » Um, yeah, I certainly hear that a lot from 578 01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:29,280 community members and downtown businesses. I think 579 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:33,280 downtowns, every downtown in America attracts people, right? Period. Point 580 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,280 blank. regardless of what's there. You go to any sort of urban core downtown 581 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:43,680 and that's where the majority of the city goes for shopping, for food, for 582 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:48,880 doctors, whatever it might be. Um, I think it's a little bit of a 583 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:53,760 misconception. You know, we have two nonprofits downtown and I don't know the 584 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:57,599 total number of businesses downtown, but I'm guessing that's, you know, it's a 585 01:00:55,359 --> 01:01:01,280 very small percentage, right? So, I think regardless of where those 586 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:05,839 nonprofits are located, the sort of attraction to downtown that's there for 587 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,520 folks who are unsheltered and for folks who are sheltered, it's getting their 588 01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:13,680 needs met is where, you know, the transit center is, right? Like it's 589 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:18,960 everything is right there for San Rafll. Um, and so it's not a unique issue to 590 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:24,079 San Rafll, but I don't think it's the main driver um by any means. 591 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,680 » Thank you very much for answering that. That helps. And my final question is 592 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:31,280 there was a resolution passed to make encampment illegal in certain part of 593 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:35,160 San Rafale. How has been your experience around enforcing that? 594 01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:47,440 Uh we haven't really been enforcing it as of yet because Midell has not yet 595 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:51,520 opened. So it's business as usual. We have our ranger who's out in the open 596 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:58,799 space. We have our footbeat team who's out regularly um marking um posting 597 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:05,760 sites that have been set up that are in places that um does not allow camping. 598 01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:12,599 » Thank you very much. Um I will now like to open up for public comments in 599 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:12,599 regards to this presentation. 600 01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:21,520 » Uh let's save it for the last part. We're going to have comments at the end. 601 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,559 So I just want to keep the rolling but I will come back to you. Thank you. 602 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:40,960 » Good evening everyone. Um so yeah um 65 tiny homes in Maryale. Good. Um 603 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,880 tightening up the um 604 01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:52,799 criminalization of the camping ordinance. Not so good. We know that 605 01:02:48,640 --> 01:03:00,799 after the 65 based on point in time 2024 numbers um it said 326 but I think 214 606 01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:05,440 206 were actually unhoused. The rest were in shelter. There are going to be 607 01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:10,799 quite a bit of people still on the street. And so with the tightening of 608 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:17,440 the ordinance, the camping ordinance, and people not sure where to go, 609 01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:20,960 um if they get more like if they get ticketed more, that's 610 01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:27,039 going to add barriers to get uh for them to get out of homelessness. Um I will 611 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:31,039 give credit because they have not fully criminalized homelessness like other 612 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:38,240 cities in Marin have. There are still legal places for people to camp. Um, but 613 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:43,599 we don't know where they are. And, um, I think it would be it's a fair concern, 614 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:48,880 it's a fair question to ask the city, um, where can people camp because if 615 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:52,640 they don't know where to camp, they are probably going to get a ticket or be 616 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,160 told to move along every couple days. It's going to just exasperate 617 01:03:54,319 --> 01:04:02,000 everything, add barriers to homelessness if they get ticketed. And um I think a 618 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:07,599 fair question and a fair uh recommendation to the city is uh asking 619 01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:11,599 the city where you guys could ask the city of where people can legally camp. 620 01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:14,839 Thank you. >> Thank you. 621 01:04:15,374 --> 01:04:17,394 [snorts] 622 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:26,960 » Good evening. [clears throat] Good evening again. Um I just want to 623 01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:33,359 touch on a couple points. um committee committee member wrote us um asked about 624 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:39,760 and it was kind of almost like trying to get reassurance that there will be more 625 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:45,039 patrol on Mahon Creek once the the sanctioned encampment is closed and and 626 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:50,240 you know like Jason pointed out there would be 65 people in the uh Midale tiny 627 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:55,280 home village but there's a lot more people that are going to be unhoused and 628 01:04:52,160 --> 01:05:01,920 that have no place to go um Uh Lyn Murphy touched on it a little bit 629 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:06,480 when she talked about how uh the shelter through Homewardbound um is, you know, 630 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:11,839 there's rarely any better or I don't think she used rarely. I think she kind 631 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:17,440 of under uh uh stated that there's really no 632 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:22,720 availability. It's really hard to get it to the shelter. And not only that, they 633 01:05:20,799 --> 01:05:29,039 if you have a higher level of care needs, if you're incontinent 634 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:32,960 um and other higher level of care, you don't qualify to be in the shelter. So, 635 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:37,440 you have a lot of unhoused folks that not only have trauma, but that have 636 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:42,079 unmet medical needs that don't even qualify to be in the shelter. So, when 637 01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:47,359 you ask about the reassurance of patrolling in this area, think about 638 01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:51,680 people that really have nowhere else to go. And yes, there is an ordinance. 639 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:56,640 There is a existing ordinance that limits where people can go. But I think 640 01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:01,760 this would be a great opportunity to look at that ordinance, look at the 641 01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:06,079 data, and really see if this committee could maybe come up with some 642 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:09,680 recommendations that might alleviate some of the suffering of the people on 643 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:12,640 the streets from that ordinance. Thank you. 644 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:18,880 » Thank you. >> Can I clarify? 645 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:22,799 » Um, yeah. Can we do that at this point? >> Yeah. Member member Rodus likes to 646 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,480 clarify. So, we'll give an opportunity to speak if you Heidi, if you won't 647 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,720 mind. Can you get a minute? Go ahead, sir. 648 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:33,599 » Thank you. Yeah, just my my question wasn't really um asking for reassurance 649 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,680 that there'd be more patrol. It would be It was more so along the lines of what 650 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,640 would happen to the people that chose to come back, whether it be ticketed or 651 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:45,920 not. I wasn't looking for reassurance that there'd be more officers out there. 652 01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:48,640 » Thank you, sir. And uh Heidi, please go ahead. 653 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:52,720 » Yeah, ditto to everything that Jason and Sarah said and thanks for the 654 01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:57,039 clarification because I also heard are the homeless going to be policed 655 01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:02,480 appropriately um in your comment. I think um as has been highlighted, there 656 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:06,160 aren't places to go and we're going to be left with hundreds of people. It's 657 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:10,079 great that the tiny homes are going to be transitional housing. Um it's a 658 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:14,880 little concerning that there's going to be a patrol substation there. Um, when 659 01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:19,920 we say that's going to make everyone feel safer, I don't think it's going to 660 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:26,240 make the people living in the tiny homes feel safer. Um, I also think 661 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:30,799 overpleasing poor people um, isn't going to help at all. Because if we make it 662 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:34,000 illegal, people are not living outside. Most of the people who have to live 663 01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:38,000 outside because they have no other options are not doing that because they 664 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:43,280 think it's awesome to live outside. They have trauma. They have families that 665 01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:47,200 maybe can't also have trauma from them that can't accept them back in. It's 666 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:53,280 heartbreaking to see a family member pick up their unhoused child for like a 667 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:57,119 Sunday meal and then bring them back because they just can't live with that 668 01:07:55,359 --> 01:08:01,599 person based on the trauma and the mental health issues that they have. And 669 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:06,400 so I encourage us to look for other solutions to see homeless people in 670 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:10,960 their full humanity. Their moms and dads, brothers, sisters, friends, 671 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:15,599 artists, plumbers, carpenters, they're all the people that you're friends with 672 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:20,480 um who just happen to be in really bad circumstances and they don't just need a 673 01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:25,120 home, they need support when they're in a home after having lived outside. They 674 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:30,239 need wraparound services. Um, probably not. I wouldn't put police services on 675 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:35,759 that list. Um, I still agree with some of the conversation that's been had here 676 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:41,279 around the support and care of unhoused people isn't really a policing issue or 677 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:45,759 a law enforcement issue. Um, when certain things happen, it may become 678 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:51,560 that, but I don't want us to start from the place that it is that. Thank you. 679 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,560 » Thank you. 680 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:04,719 Hello. Hi everybody. Um, I know I came in a little bit late, but I just wanted 681 01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:09,920 to kind of say thank you for even allowing a conversation to happen 682 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:15,920 because I think whenever you try to not have conversations about this topic is 683 01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:19,359 when it can actually get out of hand, so to speak. So, um, it's important and I 684 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:23,199 appreciate the fact that the conversation is happening. So, it's I 685 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,839 think it's a good thing whenever you have conversations and and meetings and 686 01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:31,359 allow community members and other members of the committees to express and 687 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,400 ask questions that maybe they didn't know before. So, that's all I want to 688 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:38,199 say. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for coming. 689 01:09:42,223 --> 01:09:47,600 [clears throat] >> How y'all doing? 690 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:54,960 Okay. First thing I want to address is 691 01:09:50,400 --> 01:10:01,440 uh the escros that that's being sold. Those are [clears throat] my properties 692 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:07,600 and and I ask you, you know, nicely, please don't sell this one. Please don't 693 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:13,040 sell this one. And it happens. Um I just found out, [clears throat] well, I've 694 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:19,199 I've already found out that I have imminent domain authority. 695 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:23,679 Okay. So, especially when it comes to finances, I'm supposed to be here at all 696 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:27,360 of these meetings and I'm supposed to head the meetings, but I don't want to 697 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:32,080 do that. [clears throat] I don't want to do that because I won't 698 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:39,440 be here at all of them. >> Yeah. 699 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:45,040 So um as far as um Anderson is concerned, 700 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:50,719 yeah, it is pretty rowdy over there, you know, and um I got jumped three time 701 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:57,760 twice. I had one fight and then I got jumped twice for asking about my money. 702 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:02,560 So they still playing the game. The game is illegal. 703 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:10,000 Okay. So [clears throat] and it's also racist. So 704 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:16,640 the modern day um slavery act ended January no February this year. So when I 705 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:24,719 go out there and I know [clears throat] I own all the all the all not most of 706 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:32,080 them all them all all because I I inherited code one. Code one runs all 707 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:39,600 offices but I get discriminated against the whole time. They take two weeks off 708 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:46,674 of discrimination out of 14 years. Been homeless since the will got stolen out 709 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,600 the house with my neighbor. So, [clears throat] 710 01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:54,960 » thank you, sir. >> That being said, I'll see you guys 711 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:58,880 later. Okay. And >> sir, can you please wrap up? Thank you. 712 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:05,040 Your time is up, sir. I do need some help with uh [clears throat] with my air 713 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:08,480 inheritance and my paperwork. So, we'll we'll touch with 714 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,000 » Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. >> Thank you. 715 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:15,840 » Thank you. >> Okay. Um we'll now go to uh any comments 716 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:20,480 via Zoom. >> We have no online comments. 717 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:27,360 » Okay. All right. Uh I don't see any more comments. So we'll close public comments 718 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:31,040 and uh let's go to our recommendation from this 719 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:36,239 presentation that should be included in the annual report to the city council. 720 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:39,120 » I will start with member Camina. >> Uh chair. 721 01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:41,920 » Yes. I want to give you time for your comment. I didn't forget you had a 722 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:48,560 comment to my >> Yes. And I need them to be present. 723 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:54,120 » Okay. My apologies. I ke I will keep my promise. Why don't you go first, please? 724 01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:54,120 Because Okay. 725 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:03,000 » Um, Director Murphy, I really appreciate that you're having pointed out 726 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:13,840 the the level of violence versus what's reported. Um, 727 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:19,679 and I would like to comment that my comment is for thanking you. It's to the 728 01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:24,719 chair and to the people that are present in the audience. 729 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:29,120 The comments about safety and the comments about participation in 730 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:35,520 community. Uh of the committee members I have 731 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:43,520 walked Anderson Street. Of the committee members I have gone 732 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:47,920 into the park may I call it you know. Yeah. the camping that SCA I have gone 733 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:52,719 in there >> and to hear the concerns of people about 734 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:59,760 safety and so forth. >> It's not as something is happening every 735 01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:05,920 moment because you have the staff there. You have the case managers. This 736 01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:12,560 particular area is will be safe just like the one over at you know the other 737 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:17,679 the S SCA S. And I just wanted to have that stated 738 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:23,360 out loud. It's not like you're walking past people and they're jumping on you 739 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:27,520 as we kind of just heard. Um that doesn't happen in that fashion. And 740 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:32,880 there are members in the community who have been homeless and who are no longer 741 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:39,040 homeless that can also address that issue. People are people and that's how 742 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:44,880 we should be treating each other first and foremost without the assumption that 743 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:49,920 you're going to be harmed. You know, it's, you know, I've walked those 744 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:56,560 streets and talked to those people in both sites. Thank you. 745 01:14:52,400 --> 01:15:01,120 » Thank you. Thank you. Um, member Camina, >> um, I failed to ask one question, so if 746 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:06,560 I might do that, um, before I give you my comments, which is there's no street 747 01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:09,040 team anymore. Is there why? And is it possible to get it back? I thought it 748 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:16,960 was great. >> Uh, they shut down their business 749 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:20,440 um, late last year. So, downtown streets does not exist. 750 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:28,400 » So sad. Well, and my comments are um First, thank you again for being here. 751 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:34,400 But, you know, it's by the grace of God or a gene, um, any of us could be in the 752 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:37,760 situation of homelessness. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that this 753 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,520 was a violent nature. I was just curious about what was happening. 754 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:45,840 » Yes. >> I am so I have seen you walking down 755 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:49,920 Anderson Drive talking with people and I so much appreciate that you guys are 756 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:54,800 here with the amount I'm going to cry. with the amount of compassion that you 757 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:59,600 have and the understanding and if it weren't for your gift that you're giving 758 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:03,679 to our community, I think it would be very different. So, I thank you. Thank 759 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:07,199 you. >> Thank you. You guys want to hang up? We 760 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:11,280 have going to shower you with some compliments. So, I know if if you're in 761 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:15,760 a hurry, please go. But if you don't mind, maybe stick around. Um, member 762 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:20,560 Newan, >> there's no comment. Thank you very much 763 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:23,199 for your presentation. Okay. Member Rodas, 764 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:27,040 » no comment, but thank you. >> Member Ruiz, 765 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:32,560 » no comment. >> Member Tokahi, 766 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:36,320 um I just wanted to say kudos to you and and the safe team and the one safe team 767 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,920 that's still doing the all the work that you guys are doing. Uh I know it's not 768 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:45,600 easy. I've been there. I've done the work. Um burned out a few times, you 769 01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:52,560 know, after three years. I'm like, you know, I can't do it. Um it's not easy 770 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:56,880 but kudos to you and the one safe team that has been doing a lot of work and 771 01:16:54,640 --> 01:17:02,880 also some of the the case managers some of the other agencies like St. Vincent 772 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:09,280 uh we have Rita the Rita house uh Rita center um and other agencies that are 773 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:14,560 still doing the work. I know the work that that all of you guys have done is a 774 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:20,000 lot but we all know that it's not going to solve the issue. you know, we wish 775 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:24,960 there's more shelters, uh, more beds open at some other places. 776 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:30,239 I don't know. Like, can we find funding somewhere and build more, you know, 777 01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:35,600 because we know like the folks once we we close an encampment like we're going 778 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:41,280 to ask that questions like where those folks going to go, you know, 779 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:46,159 maybe the city can or maybe with us, we can work with the city. We can work 780 01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:49,840 together to find spaces There are folks who also live in their 781 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,120 cars. That's their means of transportation. Like they have all their 782 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:58,719 stuff in their cars. That's home for them. Maybe we can give them a pass. I 783 01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:02,560 don't know. And I'll work with the city folks. Give them a pass so they can I 784 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:08,800 don't know, give them a placard so they can park somewhere or or allocate 785 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:13,920 an area for them to park with their vehicles, you know. Um I don't know. 786 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:20,239 this I know there's still a lot of work to do but I also want to appreciate 787 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:26,640 everything that everyone has put in you know it's it's a long journey and once 788 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:33,280 we see someone take that that next steps and get housed and get a job you know 789 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:39,280 like we've seen some of them here and all um kudos to you guys with sticking 790 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:41,760 with the program and all and taking that next steps 791 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:46,960 » so thank Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And then uh 792 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:51,360 alternate member Valdez. >> Um just thank you for your presentation 793 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:56,080 and also like they mention all the work that you do. I think it makes a big 794 01:18:53,120 --> 01:19:00,560 difference for the homeless population. >> Okay. For me, I really have more um 795 01:18:58,719 --> 01:19:04,560 praise than recommendation. You guys provide a corrective experience out in 796 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,440 the world. I've seen what you guys do. You and I have met with the business 797 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,560 community. You're so available every time I call you so to can meet with 798 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:14,239 someone just to educate them on what we do. side. I just want to thank you for 799 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:18,000 your time. Um, the word unique has been used today. So, I'll use it again. You 800 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:21,679 serve a unique role because you wear a uniform. You don't have a weapon. Your 801 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:25,679 weapon is your relationship is your word, your loyalty. It's those 802 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:30,960 relationships you develop with people. So, it's you do have a unique role here. 803 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,560 Um, and you know, myself, I used to serve in a 5150 unit. And that I see 804 01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:38,480 when people would get discharged and they would keep ending coming back to 805 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:42,400 the inatient psych hospital. And the ones that had the most efficacy were the 806 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:46,320 ones who went to a short-term house and eventually were placed in a long-term 807 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:49,840 home. I had the most efficate rate of people finding roots, finding home. And 808 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:54,000 once when you get to know their story, you develop empathy and you realize like 809 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:57,440 it's hard. It's hard, you know, living on the street. You really applaud them 810 01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:03,600 for the, you know, how much stamina they have. Um, so I appreciate what you guys 811 01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:09,520 do. Um I I don't have any more comments. I think I think with that note if 812 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:14,000 there's no other things we can adjourn, I think. Right. All right. Thank you. 813 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,159 » Thank you. >> Thank you.