[4:25] [laughter]
[4:48] Yeah, I have a
[5:02] Oh, I'm back there.
[5:24] That's the same.
[5:49] I rescue.
[6:22] You're the
[6:40] like this.
[6:58] Remaining
[7:24] Happy.
[8:58] All right. Apologies for the technical
difficulties. Um, so the interpreter
[9:03] didn't hear my earlier [clears throat]
comments, so I'll repeat those for the
[9:07] record and then there'll be translation.
>> All right.
[9:11] So, thank you, Chair Deviti. Um before
we begin, we would like to announce
[9:21] » change.
[9:25] » One moment while we change channel.
[9:35] All right. Apologies for that. Um
so we would like to announce this
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[12:22] » Okay, great. Thank you for that. Uh, are
there any reports from our staff
[12:25] leaison?
>> Yes, good evening. Thank you, Chair
[12:30] Dviti. I'm uh happy to report on a
couple updates for the committee. First,
[12:35] I want to report on the SAFE's team
quarter 2 stats. Uh, SAFE responded to
[12:42] 684
calls for service, which is about it's a
[12:46] little over 8% of all the calls during
quarter 2 of 2026. And on average, SAFE
[12:52] is handling about one out of every 11
calls for service.
[12:58] Uh recruitment and personnel update. Uh
we currently have five recruits in the
[13:03] police academy. Um we have one is a
couple of two of them are scheduled to
[13:09] graduate very soon this month and then
three more in December. Um we have four
[13:14] openings which right now um we are
looking really good because we do have
[13:19] some people in backgrounds and as you
know the background process takes a
[13:21] while so it's not guaranteed but we are
looking at getting fully staff with the
[13:25] goal being fully staffed in 2027.
Um awards and commendations. I do uh I'd
[13:33] love to I'm glad to report out that in
July um two of our officers were honored
[13:38] by the Mothers Against Drunk Driving um
for their dedication in DUI enforcement.
[13:44] Both officers led the Sanfell Police
Department in identifying and arresting
[13:47] impaired drivers, demonstrating their
commitment to keeping the community
[13:51] safe.
Complaints update. So, um this would be
[13:57] the report out for a year to date or at
least as of July 1st. Um we've had 16
[14:03] complaints. Um the average complaint
time is 20 to from intake to completion
[14:09] is 20 days. Um 11 them 11 of them were
procedural complaints, five were conduct
[14:15] complaints. We have two sustained
complaints, two were exonerated, six
[14:21] unfounded, five not sustained, and one
was incomplete. Just a reminder, an
[14:26] incomplete is where somebody calls and
makes the report and then we try to do
[14:30] follow-up. This could be one way it
could be incomplete. We've tried, we
[14:33] tried, we tried and they no longer wish
to cooperate and there's no way that we
[14:37] can complete the report. It's not enough
information.
[14:40] Um, reminder about the upcoming Spanish
Police Academy. It is August 26th
[14:46] through October 28th. So, we do have a a
full um
[14:51] curriculum. we have a full um class. Um
but I just want to remind the the
[14:57] committee that it is going to be going
on um applications already closed and
[15:05] that is it. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Lieutenant Everly.
[15:10] I [clears throat] will now like to ask
the committee for reports from each
[15:13] member. I will start with member Camina,
please.
[15:17] » Thank you.
>> I'm not sure. Um yes um this um month
[15:24] and two months actually since we had
time off I celebrated Junth on on the
[15:29] 19th of June with some members of the
black community. On the 24th I attended
[15:35] although briefly the voices of canal
wonderful event that our member Darlene
[15:40] and friends put on in the canal. I um
dropped by the centerfall high school
[15:44] truck day and um also did some national
night out with neighbors. So that's my
[15:51] my report for the time. Thank
[clears throat] you.
[15:54] » Thank you very much. Uh let's go to
member Newan, please.
[16:00] » I don't have any report.
>> Okay. Thank you, member Rodas.
[16:06] » I have no reports.
>> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz.
[16:14] Yes, I have I have many but I want to I
have a
[16:22] meeting in July 25 about immigration and
uh multicultural
[16:29] was very important for our community in
canal and the other uh we had a national
[16:37] out with poses canal and canal. Thank
you so much for uh everybody coming stay
[16:43] with us. Thank you. That's it.
>> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi,
[16:50] » just a quick one last two weeks just uh
word of mouth inviting a lot of the
[16:56] community's folks to our meetings.
Um especially in the canal. Um,
[17:03] but I think moving forward I'm going to
I'm going to ask the the the committee
[17:10] if if we can have sort like a a drafted
flyer with all the dates of our
[17:16] remainders, you know, of our meeting
remainders. So when we do outreach um
[17:22] just to pass it on to people um with
also word of mouth just we we want to
[17:28] see we want to see our folks here too
you know to come to because it's a
[17:33] meeting for them. So
>> thank you. Thank you sir. Alterate
[17:37] member locks.
[17:42] » Oh kiddo
um I attended the canal alliance meeting
[17:47] and that or community
community gathering and that was like I
[17:53] had a lot of good company but I had
excellent food. Yes, much excellent food
[17:58] and that was June 24th. And then I
wanted to say that um on uh July 19th
[18:06] that I wanted to commend um I had called
for a safety check for a friend in West
[18:14] End West End San Rafll and I wanted to
commend Sergeant Scott.
[18:20] Is that how you pronounce his name?
Engles
[18:23] who
uh attended this residence with me and
[18:28] we had to take care of a friend who was
found down who is in rehab now. And uh I
[18:34] like to bring forward good things as
well as things that need uh constructive
[18:39] criticisms for. And I just wanted to say
thank you that I'm going to be doing the
[18:44] Nicole virtual training on September
23rd and December 10th and that the
[18:51] annual Nicole event this year will be in
um November. November. Yeah, November.
[19:00] Uh in but that will be in Louisville,
Kentucky. So, I won't be attending that
[19:04] one, you know. And um let's see. I think
I think that's all for now. I think
[19:10] there'll be maybe time to comment
further when we get into some of the
[19:14] » the communications and things. Thank
you.
[19:17] » Thank you very much. Alternate member
Valdez. Um um I I was absent on a June
[19:24] meeting, but I went to a meeting similar
like uh Darling mentioned and I learned
[19:29] a lot at that meeting because uh I I
could like
[19:35] I sorry I have to yeah they explain all
what the Marine Response Network do and
[19:43] it's a lot because they they help the
families with the that are facing rep
[19:48] deportation or separation with event and
other other
[19:52] a lot of services and they work with
another agencies and nonprofits too.
[19:58] Also that day I shared the document that
staff prepare about fire police
[20:03] department collaborating with ICE. On
June 24 I was part of the oral board
[20:09] interview for a dispatcher. I also
attended the awas frescas with a cup um
[20:16] bosses the canal and
On August 4, I visited some of the
[20:22] stations for National Night Out. Thank
you.
[20:26] » Thank you. Uh and as for me, um I went
and attended uh the event at the
[20:31] Pickleweed Park for the World Cup soccer
final game. It was really nice to be
[20:36] amongst the community in the canal. Uh
just to be around people, just unite
[20:40] over uh something that big. Um I
attended Touch a Truck event. I was at
[20:46] the coffee with the cup and I noticed
that uh Mr. Tokahi and also Newman were
[20:51] also there and encourage more of us to
attend at the future uh coffee with a
[20:56] cup uh event. I also uh discovered this
new organization called Karma Club. Also
[21:02] have an organization called Cove.
They're both uh connected. It's an
[21:05] afterchool program for kids. It's a drop
in. It's free. It's a place for kids to
[21:10] hang out after school. They get
tutoring. They get a place to eat. uh
[21:15] it's a place to connect uh and it's at
free of charge and it's in the Northgate
[21:19] mall so it was nice to see that space
get filled with people coming together
[21:23] and that will conclude uh my report and
uh next I will see if are there any
[21:30] public comments on the staff and the
community leaison
[21:44] Hello everyone. Nice to see you. Hope
you're having a good summer. It was nice
[21:48] to have a month off. Hope you enjoyed
that as well. Um I wanted to say that
[21:54] the updates are still kind of hard to
follow around the complaints and that's
[21:58] one of the major reasons you all are
here. um to look into complaints to see
[22:03] how the community is feeling about the
police department. I heard buried in
[22:07] there that two were sustained, but we
don't know what that means. Like we
[22:12] don't know, was that a policy violation?
Was that a misconduct violation? Um so I
[22:18] think it makes sense for you all to know
what those are when they investigate
[22:21] themselves and they find that something
has been violated or something has been
[22:26] done that's not in alignment with
department values. That's the kind of
[22:29] thing you all are here um to
investigate. And I didn't hear any
[22:34] questions about that or any
clarification on that. I still feel like
[22:37] that's a laundry list that's hard to
write down and hard to follow. And I
[22:41] know it's posted on the website, but
that also is what I call a nothing
[22:45] sandwich. It doesn't tell you anything.
So, please ask questions and get more
[22:50] more information. I was happy to hear
tonight that a lot of you in your
[22:53] updates did talk about policing related
things
[22:58] um that you attended
um because that and if you if your
[23:06] outreach is to tell people to come to
this meeting where y'all haven't done a
[23:10] lot I don't know what the purpose of
that is but I would say if you're
[23:13] talking to people and inviting them here
you can surely bring their concerns here
[23:18] » because as we've said before a lot of
people feel intimidated to come into
[23:23] city hall to a committee that sits on a
dis where there are police in the room
[23:28] the chief lieutenant um and so bring
their concerns here that's what you all
[23:33] are supposed to be doing thank you oh
and one more thing that dropin place for
[23:37] kids is 13 and up so it's not like
little kids it's teenagers I believe
[23:42] » yes thank you for clarifying
Okay.
[23:52] Okay. Um I will now go to Terresa. Do we
have any public comment via Zoom?
[23:58] » We do not.
>> Okay. Uh there's no So I will close
[24:02] public comment.
Um
[24:07] I'd like to Are there any questions on
the draft from minutes from the
[24:10] committee? I will ask in this order.
Member Camino.
[24:15] No questions. I did review them.
>> Thank you. Uh, member Newan,
[24:19] » no question.
>> Member Rodas,
[24:22] » no questions.
>> Member Ruiz,
[24:24] » no questions.
>> Member Tokahi,
[24:26] » no questions.
>> Alternate member locks,
[24:29] » no questions.
>> No questions.
[24:31] » Thank you. Alternate member Valdez,
>> no questions.
[24:34] » And I have no questions. Um, are there
any public comments on the draft
[24:40] minutes?
[24:44] I
>> from the committee. Yeah. Public
[24:47] comments on draft minutes. I don't I
don't see any. I will go to uh Teresa.
[24:52] Are there any public comment via Zoom?
[24:57] » No.
>> No. Okay. I will close public comment. I
[25:02] will ask are there any comments from the
committee in this order? Uh member
[25:06] Camino.
>> No comments. Thank you.
[25:10] » Member Newan. No comment.
>> Member Rolas.
[25:14] » No comments.
>> Member Ruiz.
[25:16] » No comments.
>> Member Tokahi.
[25:19] » No comments.
>> Alter. Member Locks.
[25:23] » My only comments are I have reviewed
minutes from a variety of committees
[25:31] uh in San Rafll and throughout the
county. And even though there is this
[25:36] style of minute taking, I feel that our
minutes
[25:43] don't always reflect
what has occurred. And I would like to
[25:50] have us uh work on that or look at some
other um examples of minute uh minutes
[25:58] that are provided throughout San Rafll
and the county. even though we are
[26:02] following the um the BCC guidelines.
[26:08] » Thank you. Uh alternate member Valdez.
>> No comments.
[26:12] » And I have no comments. Uh I would like
to ask for a motion to accept the
[26:17] meeting minutes.
Uh can I ask for a second?
[26:23] » Second. Did someone
>> I'm sorry.
[26:27] » I need a motion. So we could Okay. May I
ask a question?
[26:31] » Yes.
[26:35] » Are there seven regular members present?
That was what I was going to ask. And if
[26:39] any of the alternatives are doing any
votes today. Thank you.
[26:43] » Thank you for that question. So, member
locks, you'll be voting in place of
[26:46] member Alm who's absent today.
>> Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. I
[26:51] would like to ask for a motion to accept
the meeting minutes.
[26:54] » Motion to approve.
>> Okay. Can I ask for a second?
[26:57] » I second.
>> Okay. No, let's throw it to member
[27:00] locks. Thanks for seconding that. U I
would like to ask staff for roll call,
[27:05] please.
>> All right, member locks.
[27:09] » Yes.
>> Member Kamina,
[27:12] » yes. Approved.
>> Member Nuen,
[27:14] » yes.
>> Rodas,
[27:16] » yes.
>> Member Ruiz,
[27:18] » yes.
>> Member Tokahi,
[27:20] » approved.
>> And Chair Devidi,
[27:22] » yes.
>> And that motion passes.
[27:24] » Thank you so much. Uh, I'd like to
invite public comments. Are there any
[27:27] public comments on any matter that's not
listed on the agenda?
[27:41] [clears throat]
[27:43] Hello. Hello again everyone. Um I just
you have in your packet my ongoing list
[27:50] of things. I feel like this meeting is
one and done each time and we don't
[27:56] circle back um to things that have been
left open and I would get a bad
[28:02] performance review at work if I did that
like it feels like things just float off
[28:08] into the sunset. So there are things
that have
[28:13] come we have talked about. I mean you
can read it if you want. I hope you
[28:18] will. Um police culture is something
that has been talked about since the
[28:23] beginning. Your committee could say to
the chief, I want you to go back and
[28:28] talk to your union and see about doing a
survey to find out how your officers
[28:34] feel about the culture, how they would
describe the culture. you could, you're
[28:39] allowed to
ask him to do that. And he's been, he
[28:44] has offered many times to just ask me or
get involved or take action outside of
[28:49] this meeting. Um, the newly formed
Civilian Oversight Commission for the
[28:55] Sheriff's Office has formed a bunch of
ad hoc committees to look into things,
[29:00] to look at flock camera usage, um, to
look at what's going on in the
[29:07] department, um, so that they can make
recommendations in partnership with the
[29:12] community to make it better for
everyone, which is what what you're here
[29:17] for. Um I did also want to bring
attention to the great presentation we
[29:23] had at the last meeting um from youth
transforming justice. Um and to kind of
[29:31] tell you committee member tookai that I
think the comment that you made was
[29:36] reckless about youth crime spiking and
it was also false. I did research after
[29:43] we left. I think when you have a
position of power being on this
[29:46] committee and you say things like that
that aren't true, it's reckless. And if
[29:50] you have data to prove what you said,
because I have data to prove it's false,
[29:54] please share it with me.
>> Thank you.
[30:04] » Good evening, committee members. Um, I
don't have much to say other than if
[30:10] someone asked me what the pack does, I
wouldn't know how to respond to that
[30:16] because I'm not quite sure what it is
you guys do except meet here
[30:22] um, however often it is that you meet
here monthly, I think it is. And but
[30:26] other than that, it's like what what are
you guys doing? And so for me it gets
[30:31] really frustrating because it just seems
like this has become a performative
[30:36] committee like oh yeah here we are you
know accountability collaboration with
[30:41] the community but I don't know if you
guys are really doing that and like
[30:46] Heidi said um there's a civilian
oversight commission which I serve as
[30:50] vice chair. I'm speaking in my own
capacity today but when something gets
[30:55] brought up to us we form a subcommittee.
We might not have all the answers, but
[30:59] we're going to go find answers. We're
going to talk to people. We're going to
[31:02] talk to subject matter experts and get
more information to formulate a either a
[31:08] recommendation if need be or just a
report back to the public that's
[31:12] bringing concerns to us. And I suggest
that you guys utilize that. You know,
[31:19] maybe all of you don't have time to do
all of the work, but in little groups,
[31:23] you guys could do a lot. Thank you.
>> Thank you so much.
[31:28] I see no further public comment. Uh M
Teresa, is there anything on
[31:33] » We have no comments online.
>> Okay. Uh let me just do that. Okay. I
[31:37] will now close uh public comment. And
before we move to regular agenda, let's
[31:43] break to toggle the interpreters.
[32:07] Okay, we can proceed.
[32:48] Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now for the big
[32:52] attraction here. Um our agenda today is
homelessness. And I will ask Teresa to
[32:56] introduce our uh presenters, please.
>> Sure. Good evening, Cheriti and fellow
[33:00] pack members uh to bring some historical
context to the topic this evening. It's
[33:06] an update on homelessness. As you
recall, at the January 10th, 2026 study
[33:11] session, the committee identified party
topics for the year, one of which was
[33:15] homelessness. This is a followup
additionally to the original
[33:19] presentation that was provided in
October of 2024 and again with an update
[33:24] that was received May 21st of 2025. This
evening we have community services
[33:28] director Daniel Coopermanman and Lyn
Murphy mental health liaison here to
[33:33] present in more detail on the topic. So
at this time I'll turn the presentation
[33:37] over to those folks. Thank you.
[33:44] » Good evening. Thank you for having us.
It's nice to see you. It does not feel
[33:48] like it was over a year ago that we were
here talking about homelessness, but um
[33:53] nice to see you again.
[33:57] » [clears throat]
>> All right, and we'll jump right into it.
[34:00] We have a brief presentation and slide
deck for you guys tonight. And let's get
[34:05] going
if I can. There we go. Um, so just for a
[34:10] little background context, uh, in front
of you here, we have the 2024 point in
[34:15] time count. Um, there is a caveat.
Obviously, we're in 2026 right now. And
[34:20] so, um, the county led the 2026 point in
time count and we're expecting those
[34:26] results to come out very shortly,
potentially this month, if not next. Um,
[34:32] so the data is old. Um, but what you see
in front of you is a little over a
[34:36] thousand folks um unsheltered within the
county um with over 300 of them
[34:43] sheltered. Um, the the rest of them
living in a place not meant for human
[34:47] habitation. Um you can see San Rafale
has 326 out of those 1090 within the
[34:54] county and then um also in front of you
Nevada's numbers um with the other large
[35:00] population coming from unincorporated
Marin County. Um, as you can see,
[35:05] there's a decrease in chronically
homeless individuals as that's been a
[35:09] main focus um in the homeless response
system, as well as a 32% decrease in
[35:17] homeless veterans across the county. Um,
and so for those who aren't familiar,
[35:21] the point in time count is sort of the
main data point for how we measure
[35:26] how the homeless response system is
doing. Um it's not it's conducted
[35:31] throughout the country in every county.
Um some entities do it every year, but
[35:37] most entities do it every other year. Um
and so that's what led to the 2026
[35:41] count. Um it's not a perfect count by
any means. Uh it's a one it's a snapshot
[35:48] point in time as it alludes to. Um and
so there's different ideologies about
[35:53] how accurate it is to the total number.
um as well as you know the es and flows
[35:59] throughout the year. So that's that data
and then on to um our response within
[36:05] the city.
Many of you already know that uh in
[36:11] 2024, October of 2024, we stood up the
sanctioned camping area or the SCA
[36:18] um on the northern part of Mahome Creek
Path. Uh it's right near the Sprouts um
[36:23] shopping center. Um this is our interim
transitional shelter. Um we've got 55
[36:32] tent cubicles. So they are more like a
room than a tent. They do not have any
[36:38] domed ceilings. So when you walk in your
cubicle you can stand upright.
[36:43] Um onsite we've got 24/7
um security uh site management that
[36:51] provides um transportation for people
who need to go to a service. Um they
[36:57] transport to um medical appointments,
treatment appointments, mental health
[37:02] appointments. They've been a fantastic
partner to us. They've built a lot of
[37:07] community within the members um living
on site. They hold weekly town hall
[37:12] meetings um which gives people living at
the sea the opportunity to bring
[37:18] concerns to the site management um and
it's an opportunity for people to just
[37:26] gather together in a social way. They
have pizza um and they can advocate for
[37:32] for what they want on site.
Um, we also have case management for
[37:39] everybody who's living in the SCA. That
case management, you might remember, is
[37:44] that it's like the guiding hand um to
help folks get all of their documents
[37:50] ready to help them um move through the
process to get into housing.
[37:56] Um
the next step post uh FCA is our interim
[38:04] shelter at 350 Midale, which Daniel's
going to talk about in more detail. Um
[38:10] we will have uh actual cabins with roofs
and doors that lock with electricity,
[38:20] air conditioning, and heating.
Um the schedule is
[38:27] looking like Well, I'll let Daniel get
to that. We're a little behind schedule.
[38:32] Um
the target to open is still fall of
[38:36] 2026. Uh everybody who is at the
sanctioned camping area is eligible to
[38:41] move into the Midell site. Um and people
are excited about it. It's um it's
[38:47] definitely a big step up being able to
have a door that locks um and have
[38:54] power. We'll have office space. Um we'll
have a little substation for patrol on
[39:01] site. Um so that's coming together. Um
the plan to transition up to Midale is
[39:09] to move people in smaller groups. So
we're not taking 55 people all at one
[39:15] time. So we'll move I don't think we've
determined the number but let's say 8 to
[39:21] 10 at a time to get people
moved up in a in a very thoughtful
[39:29] organized fashion. Not just okay here we
go. Um,
[39:34] and we will continue to have all of
those same services at Meridell. So, the
[39:38] case management, um, the ability to meet
in private with your case manager in a
[39:44] an office with air conditioning, um, so
people aren't listening to your your
[39:49] private conversations.
Um, and we are really looking forward to
[39:55] that opening up and um, fingers crossed
it will be happening very soon.
[40:06] Um and just a little more overview. So
it's 65 tiny homes that will be on site.
[40:12] Um and so this is made possible um with
a city county partnership. Uh the county
[40:19] contributed to purchase the site at 350
Midale
[40:23] um which is very exciting. Marin has one
of sort of the lower availability of
[40:29] shelter beds within the Bay Area. Um so
it's something that's really needed in
[40:34] terms of just being able to have some
immediate response. Um besides the folks
[40:38] at the sanctioned camping area, um folks
who are on Anderson Drive, I'm sure you
[40:45] guys have all been by that. Some of
those folks will also be participating
[40:49] in the program. Um, and at that time we
will actually be closing down the
[40:53] Anderson uh drive encampment um as part
of the camping ordinance changes that
[40:59] were made a few months ago at city
council. Um we're certainly not the
[41:04] first uh jurisdiction to to launch a
tiny home village. Um but it's very
[41:10] exciting and a good step forward for
folks especially as the winter months
[41:13] are coming up. So we're very excited.
Um, and as Lynn mentioned, this is truly
[41:18] just focused on
a place to recover and provide folks a
[41:24] path um to permanent housing. So, this
is a interm temporary step for folks.
[41:31] And for a little view, uh, as you can
see, here's what the site layout's going
[41:36] to look like. Um, give or take, you
know, some minor changes here. Um, so
[41:41] you can see uh each one of these little
boxes that you see is that those are
[41:46] actually two tiny homes. So the design
of it is basically one large uh shipping
[41:52] container that's split down the middle.
Each unit will be about 70 square feet.
[41:57] Um, and so on the screen you'll see 65,
well actually 66 because one of them
[42:03] will will be used as an office. Um,
we'll have restrooms, showers,
[42:09] uh, an area for a pet run, ADA access.
Um, and this building in the middle will
[42:15] be program space, office space, uh,
community center. We're, um, in the
[42:21] midst of designing sort of the interior
layout of that, um, which the folks at
[42:26] RCA are excited about being able to have
those because currently at the SCA that
[42:31] is not a possibility. Um and then
finally once everyone transitions uh
[42:36] bringing the Mahome path back to its
intended use um is sort of that final
[42:41] step of that transition.
[42:48] And I know Lieutenant Everly already
talked a little bit about the safety,
[42:52] but we're going to do a little bit of a
deeper dive here. Um, this data is from
[42:59] January 2026 through June of 2026.
Um,
[43:05] we
we've I enjoy working with them quite a
[43:09] bit. We share an office space and we
have a fair amount of overlap. So, it's
[43:13] been really great working with them. Um,
they've contacted,37
[43:19] individuals
um who identified as unhoused.
[43:24] Um,
let's see here. 95 were referred to
[43:30] outside services. Uh, 95 of their
contacts. So, an outside service might
[43:34] be Helenvine Detox. It might be um Marin
Treatment Center. It could be um taking
[43:42] them to see their case manager. um
they're they're very flexible and as
[43:47] long as they are going to a staffed
service could be an AA meeting um they
[43:53] can transport. So [snorts] their goal is
really to determine what the need is and
[44:00] help them get that need met.
um diversions from the emergency
[44:07] emergency department, the jail, and an
ambulance ride was at 168, which is
[44:13] really pretty remarkable. Um if you
think about um pre-safe, if somebody um
[44:22] had I mean a spider bite, I see a lot of
spider bites in my travels um and they
[44:28] were taken to the emergency department.
it's not really the best use of our
[44:33] resources. Instead, the safe team could
take them to the Ritter Clinic where
[44:39] they could be seen right in town um and
get the medication that they need and
[44:46] fill that prescription at Walgreens
across the street. Um and they responded
[44:53] to 95 suicidal subject calls in those
six months.
[45:03] And that's it for our presentation
tonight. Um, and we're here for any
[45:08] questions or comments. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you for your
[45:13] presentation. Thanks Q for coming back.
Please come back more often. We love
[45:17] hearing from you guys. Appreciate what
you guys do. Um, I would like to uh see
[45:22] if there's any questions. So right now
it's just the time for questions uh on
[45:26] the presentation. I will start with
member Camina.
[45:31] » Welcome.
>> You gota wait your turn, girl.
[45:33] » No.
>> Okay, member Camina.
[45:36] » Awkward that way.
>> Thank you for being here. Thank you for
[45:39] the work that you do. Um I I think you
answered one of my questions, which will
[45:45] happen to the the the camp, not the
Anderson Drive, but the other camp after
[45:50] the Mary Dale is completed.
>> They're closing it.
[45:55] » Yeah. So it will get returned back to
its intended use. So a walking bike
[46:00] path.
>> Okay. And then um one of the questions I
[46:05] have which unfortunately comes up in the
newspaper more than the good programs
[46:10] are the issue the incidents of violence
in the Anderson area. And I'm wondering
[46:16] if you
how often you see that incidents of
[46:22] violence.
[46:28] The incidents that you've seen in the
newspaper are really the incidents that
[46:34] are the biggest on our radar as well. So
on a day-to-day basis, we're not seeing
[46:40] the types of things that you know you
read about in the headlines. those were
[46:45] pretty um isolated incidents and I think
it just goes to show that unsanctioned
[46:53] unorganized campsites are not good for
anybody
[46:57] um and that the sanctioned camping area
has not experienced that type of um the
[47:06] violence and so if anything it's I would
like it to be a reason why don't we have
[47:12] more of these sanctioned camping areas
because it's the outcomes are much
[47:16] better.
>> Thank you so much.
[47:21] » Thank you. I will go to member new
please.
[47:28] » Well, I just have a question like so the
people
[47:33] uh like you take the registrations and
people had to fill a form before moving
[47:39] to the shelters and you have uh like the
the list of people like manage in the
[47:46] orders of people. So you have the name
of everything is in order, right? So
[47:51] that's good. I just I just wonder.
Yeah. Yes. So um we have um people agree
[48:02] to a code of conduct. Um they do an
intake form. There's paperwork that they
[48:07] sign in order to be enrolled in
coordinated entry, which is the
[48:11] countyy's system to get people into
housing. Um, so it's a it's a fair
[48:16] amount of paperwork and that's what the
case manager is. That's their job to
[48:20] help them to understand what it is
they're signing. For some people,
[48:26] signing a piece of paper is like, why am
I signing this? What am I giving away?
[48:30] Um, so the case manager
explains what it is they're actually
[48:35] signing. Uh, and they don't have to sign
it in some cases. So, but for the code
[48:41] of conduct, if you want to be in the the
Meridale site, you do have to sign the
[48:45] code of conduct.
>> I'll also add all those forms are
[48:49] available on our website under the
homelessness page. Um, so they are
[48:53] available for public consumption if you
ever want to take a look.
[48:57] » What's that website? It's the city of
San Rafale. Uh, and then you just click
[49:02] the tab for homelessness.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um,
[49:06] » I will when you're done.
>> Yeah.
[49:08] » I will go to a member Rodas.
>> Yeah. I want to say thank you guys for
[49:13] your presentation, for being here. Um,
my question is how are individuals
[49:17] chosen for the Maryale shelter and what
happens to those who are denied a spa?
[49:24] » Uh, that's a really good question. I
think, you know,
[49:28] maybe it's not a misconception, but
Marielle is not going to end
[49:32] homelessness in Sanfell or the county by
any means, right? It's certainly a right
[49:37] step that is necessary um and is going
to be beneficial. Um part of our
[49:43] agreement with the county is that over
the life of the interim shelter, um that
[49:48] only 70 individuals are going to be
served. So, I presented earlier 326 and
[49:54] 70. You can see there's a little gap
there. Um so for folks and the way
[49:58] they're chosen is basically we receive
state funding to stand up the sanctioned
[50:04] camp um the sanctioned camping area and
so we have a basically an outreach list
[50:10] and so we worked with the county on that
um on top of that we just applied for
[50:15] subsequent funding. So we basically have
a select list based on you know outreach
[50:20] that Lynn did and other um service
providers. Um and so that's how folks
[50:24] are going to be selected.
>> And then and then um are there are there
[50:31] other options? So somebody's not
accepted into into Midell. Is is there
[50:37] somewhere else we can offer them a place
to stay?
[50:42] We have our shelter um at 190 Mil Street
that's run by Homewardbound. Um
[50:50] it's not enough beds. So that is the
alternative. Homewardbound does a really
[50:55] good job of trying to move people from
Jonathan's place
[51:00] um up to Neato to their new beginnings
campus which is a longer term shelter.
[51:06] Um so we have more openings available on
an emergency basis but the demand far
[51:13] exceeds the capacity. So it's it's
definitely not the solution that we
[51:19] would like to have.
Right. Okay. And then one last question.
[51:25] Um, what happens when the uh the SCA
shelter by the snake path is closed? I'm
[51:36] going to make an assumption that people
are probably still going to continue to
[51:38] come back. Is that path going to be
patrolled or is there going to be some
[51:42] enforcement about anti-housing there?
Um, or anti, you know, setups.
[51:48] » Encampments. Yes.
>> Yeah. So the whole path under our
[51:51] current camping ordinance has a is not
zoned for camping. So there's currently
[51:56] no camping. So once it's sort of
restored um it will be addressed as any
[52:02] other encampment that pops up um within
the city.
[52:08] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz.
[52:13] Um, I have a question about the person
living in Anderson Street no more or
[52:22] they are still living in
inerson.
[52:27] » Thanks. They are still living on
Anderson Drive.
[52:30] » Once Midale is open then camping will
not be allowed on Anderson Drive.
[52:38] » Okay. But what going to happen with
them?
[52:42] » That's That's a good question. I mean,
we can we always look for other options.
[52:47] So, if that's family reunification,
we have a program where people can if
[52:53] they have somebody that lives say in
another state or another part of
[52:59] California, we can pay for family
reunification.
[53:03] Um, but a lot of times people, they want
to stay here if they've been here for a
[53:08] long time. They can, you know, this is
home. Um,
[53:12] so we we try to be creative and look at
other options. So, is there a way that
[53:17] we could find um a shared living
environment where you could rent out a
[53:23] room? Um,
and it's it can be a challenge, but
[53:28] we'll look at every possible option.
Residential treatment, um,
[53:35] inhome caregiving. So, it's it's going
to be a challenge. No doubt.
[53:41] » And just to add on, some of the folks on
Anderson will um move into the Midell
[53:47] Interm Shelter.
>> Okay. Okay. Thank you so much for your
[53:51] answer.
>> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi,
[53:56] » I have one [clears throat] regarding the
safety and my questions will al also
[54:01] relate to an earlier report from one of
the staff. Um I think he mentioned
[54:07] something about the safe team handles
one out of 11 call.
[54:12] » My concern is who's handled the other 10
because I I know there's only one safe
[54:19] team and there's not so many of them. I
also understand there's no other
[54:26] um outreach team like I know the
downtown street team is out. Um, also
[54:34] the care team is out. They're not around
anymore. So, I don't know who else is
[54:38] doing outreach regarding the safety in
one person.
[54:42] » Yeah. Um, so I'm out there. Um, but the
other 10 calls are handled by patrol.
[54:50] So, if it's a call for service, SAFE is
responding to
[54:55] one out of 11.
So patrol, let's say it's um a welf call
[55:02] for a welfare check, but somebody is
swinging a baseball bat. So safe would
[55:06] not go to that call because there's the
potential for violence. So that would be
[55:11] handled by patrol.
So we're we're not looking at all of the
[55:16] calls that um safe that would qualify as
a safe call. Does that make sense? So
[55:22] we're just looking at overall calls for
service.
[55:28] So some of them didn't qualify for
>> Right. Right. I'm I I'm just worried
[55:33] about
>> I can jump in and hope not for you that
[55:38] the police
>> the
[55:41] statistic given one in 111. So the
number of calls that the safety team
[55:44] handled in quarter 2 was 684. That
equates that 684 number equates to one
[55:51] out of every 11 total calls for service
that come into the police department.
[55:55] And as Lynn was alluding to, that
doesn't necessarily mean all of those
[55:58] are safe calls. It means that they're
handling one out of every 11 calls for
[56:04] service that normally would go to a
police officer that do qualify as a safe
[56:08] team. So, it was just to try to frame
the productivity of the team and how
[56:12] much that they're handling. On average,
as been reported annually, they're
[56:17] handling a little over 8% of all calls
for service.
[56:21] » Okay.
>> Did that clarify? Yeah.
[56:25] » Okay. Uh, thank you. Thank you. I'll go
to now alternate member locks.
[56:38] I just want Thank you. It was excellent.
Uh, one of your slides I would like for
[56:43] you to clarify
the description. It said only 70 unique.
[56:52] What do you mean by that?
[56:56] » I'll take that one. Um, so that means 70
individuals. So there's 65 units. So
[57:05] only 65 folks will be on site at one
time. Over the life of the interimm
[57:10] shelter, only 70 individuals from that
curated list that I mentioned will be in
[57:15] the program over time.
[57:20] That's a clarification of the word
unique.
[57:23] » Yeah, just individual. Yeah.
>> Okay.
[57:26] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you, Alter Member Valdez.
[57:32] » My question has have been answered. So,
thank you.
[57:35] » Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you again. Uh
you mentioned there's going to be a
[57:39] patrol um someone patrol at the Midell.
Is that an SRPD? Is that a private
[57:43] security? Can you elaborate on who's
this patrol individual?
[57:49] Um, we're looking at a substation like
Pickleweed Park has a substation. Uh,
[57:55] Northgate Mall had a an office where
patrol could go and write reports. They
[58:00] could have their lunch there if they're
in the Terinda um beat. So, with
[58:06] Northgate Mall being demolished and
rebuilt, um, we're going to have a
[58:11] similar type of office at Midell.
>> Thank you. Um that may have answered my
[58:17] next question because some of the
neighborhood around the Midell Fernwood
[58:20] they raised concern around homeless
people and out being about I'm just
[58:25] sharing what I'm hearing. Uh you have
any comment around that their concerns
[58:30] around this issue safety in regards to
safety?
[58:35] » Um sure. Yes. And we've certainly heard
their concerns now since uh
[58:41] October of last year. So, um I think
through a series of uh community
[58:46] meetings and a ton of engagement um
since October of last year, we've tried
[58:53] to work with the community as best we
can to, you know, make it one a place
[58:58] that everyone is comfortable. So, folks
who are in the program, folks who are
[59:02] living in the neighborhood or
businesses,
[59:05] um our doors have remained open for
communication. And so sort of where we
[59:09] landed is trying to meet everyone's
needs as best as possible while
[59:15] understanding
there's a lot of unique needs um from
[59:21] different populations, right? And so I
think once the program gets going, the
[59:26] comfortability and sort of
responsiveness will make everyone feel a
[59:32] little more comfortable. Um, but the
unknown is unknown at this point as
[59:36] we're still talking about a project
that's not right not here at the moment.
[59:42] Thank you. I have two more questions.
Uh, my other question is around the
[59:46] business community. One of the things
that I hear from them is like, you know,
[59:49] again, I'm playing maybe business
devil's ad. One of the things they say
[59:53] is like we have a lot of nonprofits in
downtown San Rafale area um that they're
[59:57] saying like doesn't this attract more
homeless to downtown San Rafale? So, how
[1:00:03] would you respond to something like
that?
[1:00:05] » That just to [clears throat] clarify
that having nonprofits downtown attracts
[1:00:10] more people
>> that cater to the homeless demographic
[1:00:13] brings in more homeless to downtown San
Rafale.
[1:00:17] » Um,
yeah, I certainly hear that a lot from
[1:00:21] community members and downtown
businesses. I think
[1:00:26] downtowns, every downtown in America
attracts people, right? Period. Point
[1:00:31] blank. regardless of what's there. You
go to any sort of urban core downtown
[1:00:35] and that's where the majority of the
city goes for shopping, for food, for
[1:00:40] doctors, whatever it might be. Um, I
think it's a little bit of a
[1:00:45] misconception. You know, we have two
nonprofits downtown and I don't know the
[1:00:51] total number of businesses downtown, but
I'm guessing that's, you know, it's a
[1:00:55] very small percentage, right? So, I
think regardless of where those
[1:00:59] nonprofits are located, the sort of
attraction to downtown that's there for
[1:01:03] folks who are unsheltered and for folks
who are sheltered, it's getting their
[1:01:07] needs met is where, you know, the
transit center is, right? Like it's
[1:01:11] everything is right there for San Rafll.
Um, and so it's not a unique issue to
[1:01:16] San Rafll, but I don't think it's the
main driver um by any means.
[1:01:22] » Thank you very much for answering that.
That helps. And my final question is
[1:01:25] there was a resolution passed to make
encampment illegal in certain part of
[1:01:29] San Rafale. How has been your experience
around enforcing that?
[1:01:39] Uh we haven't really been enforcing it
as of yet because Midell has not yet
[1:01:44] opened. So it's business as usual. We
have our ranger who's out in the open
[1:01:49] space. We have our footbeat team who's
out regularly um marking um posting
[1:01:56] sites that have been set up that are in
places that um does not allow camping.
[1:02:02] » Thank you very much. Um I will now like
to open up for public comments in
[1:02:08] regards to this presentation.
[1:02:15] » Uh let's save it for the last part.
We're going to have comments at the end.
[1:02:18] So I just want to keep the rolling but I
will come back to you. Thank you.
[1:02:26] » Good evening everyone. Um so yeah um 65
tiny homes in Maryale. Good. Um
[1:02:37] tightening up the
um
[1:02:42] criminalization of the camping
ordinance. Not so good. We know that
[1:02:48] after the 65 based on point in time 2024
numbers um it said 326 but I think 214
[1:02:58] 206 were actually unhoused. The rest
were in shelter. There are going to be
[1:03:03] quite a bit of people still on the
street. And so with the tightening of
[1:03:08] the ordinance, the camping ordinance,
and people not sure where to go,
[1:03:14] um if they get more
like if they get ticketed more, that's
[1:03:19] going to add barriers to get uh for them
to get out of homelessness. Um I will
[1:03:24] give credit because they have not fully
criminalized homelessness like other
[1:03:29] cities in Marin have. There are still
legal places for people to camp. Um, but
[1:03:34] we don't know where they are. And, um, I
think it would be it's a fair concern,
[1:03:40] it's a fair question to ask the city,
um, where can people camp because if
[1:03:46] they don't know where to camp, they are
probably going to get a ticket or be
[1:03:50] told to move along every couple days.
It's going to just exasperate
[1:03:54] everything, add barriers to homelessness
if they get ticketed. And um I think a
[1:03:59] fair question and a fair uh
recommendation to the city is uh asking
[1:04:05] the city where you guys could ask the
city of where people can legally camp.
[1:04:09] Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:15] [snorts]
[1:04:19] » Good evening. [clears throat]
Good evening again. Um I just want to
[1:04:23] touch on a couple points. um committee
committee member wrote us um asked about
[1:04:30] and it was kind of almost like trying to
get reassurance that there will be more
[1:04:36] patrol on Mahon Creek once the the
sanctioned encampment is closed and and
[1:04:42] you know like Jason pointed out there
would be 65 people in the uh Midale tiny
[1:04:48] home village but there's a lot more
people that are going to be unhoused and
[1:04:52] that have no place to go um
Uh Lyn Murphy touched on it a little bit
[1:04:57] when she talked about how uh the shelter
through Homewardbound um is, you know,
[1:05:05] there's rarely any better or I don't
think she used rarely. I think she kind
[1:05:08] of under uh uh
stated that there's really no
[1:05:15] availability. It's really hard to get it
to the shelter. And not only that, they
[1:05:20] if you have a higher level of care
needs, if you're incontinent
[1:05:26] um and other higher level of care, you
don't qualify to be in the shelter. So,
[1:05:31] you have a lot of unhoused folks that
not only have trauma, but that have
[1:05:35] unmet medical needs that don't even
qualify to be in the shelter. So, when
[1:05:39] you ask about the reassurance of
patrolling in this area, think about
[1:05:45] people that really have nowhere else to
go. And yes, there is an ordinance.
[1:05:50] There is a existing ordinance that
limits where people can go. But I think
[1:05:54] this would be a great opportunity to
look at that ordinance, look at the
[1:05:58] data, and really see if this committee
could maybe come up with some
[1:06:03] recommendations that might alleviate
some of the suffering of the people on
[1:06:07] the streets from that ordinance. Thank
you.
[1:06:10] » Thank you.
>> Can I clarify?
[1:06:14] » Um, yeah. Can we do that at this point?
>> Yeah. Member member Rodus likes to
[1:06:21] clarify. So, we'll give an opportunity
to speak if you Heidi, if you won't
[1:06:24] mind. Can you get a minute? Go ahead,
sir.
[1:06:26] » Thank you. Yeah, just my my question
wasn't really um asking for reassurance
[1:06:32] that there'd be more patrol. It would be
It was more so along the lines of what
[1:06:36] would happen to the people that chose to
come back, whether it be ticketed or
[1:06:39] not. I wasn't looking for reassurance
that there'd be more officers out there.
[1:06:43] » Thank you, sir. And uh Heidi, please go
ahead.
[1:06:46] » Yeah, ditto to everything that Jason and
Sarah said and thanks for the
[1:06:50] clarification because I also heard are
the homeless going to be policed
[1:06:54] appropriately um in your comment. I
think um as has been highlighted, there
[1:07:00] aren't places to go and we're going to
be left with hundreds of people. It's
[1:07:04] great that the tiny homes are going to
be transitional housing. Um it's a
[1:07:08] little concerning that there's going to
be a patrol substation there. Um, when
[1:07:13] we say that's going to make everyone
feel safer, I don't think it's going to
[1:07:17] make the people living in the tiny homes
feel safer. Um, I also think
[1:07:22] overpleasing poor people um, isn't going
to help at all. Because if we make it
[1:07:28] illegal, people are not living outside.
Most of the people who have to live
[1:07:32] outside because they have no other
options are not doing that because they
[1:07:35] think it's awesome to live outside. They
have trauma. They have families that
[1:07:40] maybe can't also have trauma from them
that can't accept them back in. It's
[1:07:45] heartbreaking to see a family member
pick up their unhoused child for like a
[1:07:50] Sunday meal and then bring them back
because they just can't live with that
[1:07:55] person based on the trauma and the
mental health issues that they have. And
[1:07:59] so I encourage us to look for other
solutions to see homeless people in
[1:08:04] their full humanity. Their moms and
dads, brothers, sisters, friends,
[1:08:08] artists, plumbers, carpenters, they're
all the people that you're friends with
[1:08:13] um who just happen to be in really bad
circumstances and they don't just need a
[1:08:18] home, they need support when they're in
a home after having lived outside. They
[1:08:22] need wraparound services. Um, probably
not. I wouldn't put police services on
[1:08:27] that list. Um, I still agree with some
of the conversation that's been had here
[1:08:32] around the support and care of unhoused
people isn't really a policing issue or
[1:08:38] a law enforcement issue. Um, when
certain things happen, it may become
[1:08:43] that, but I don't want us to start from
the place that it is that. Thank you.
[1:08:48] » Thank you.
[1:08:57] Hello. Hi everybody. Um, I know I came
in a little bit late, but I just wanted
[1:09:02] to kind of say thank you for even
allowing a conversation to happen
[1:09:06] because I think whenever you try to not
have conversations about this topic is
[1:09:11] when it can actually get out of hand, so
to speak. So, um, it's important and I
[1:09:18] appreciate the fact that the
conversation is happening. So, it's I
[1:09:22] think it's a good thing whenever you
have conversations and and meetings and
[1:09:25] allow community members and other
members of the committees to express and
[1:09:30] ask questions that maybe they didn't
know before. So, that's all I want to
[1:09:33] say. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you for coming.
[1:09:42] [clears throat]
>> How y'all doing?
[1:09:46] Okay.
First thing I want to address is
[1:09:50] uh the escros that that's being sold.
Those are [clears throat] my properties
[1:09:57] and and I ask you, you know, nicely,
please don't sell this one. Please don't
[1:10:03] sell this one. And it happens. Um I just
found out, [clears throat] well, I've
[1:10:09] I've already found out that I have
imminent domain authority.
[1:10:16] Okay. So, especially when it comes to
finances, I'm supposed to be here at all
[1:10:21] of these meetings and I'm supposed to
head the meetings, but I don't want to
[1:10:25] do that. [clears throat]
I don't want to do that because I won't
[1:10:28] be here at all of them.
>> Yeah.
[1:10:34] So um as far as um Anderson is
concerned,
[1:10:41] yeah, it is pretty rowdy over there, you
know, and um I got jumped three time
[1:10:48] twice. I had one fight and then I got
jumped twice for asking about my money.
[1:10:54] So they still playing the game. The game
is illegal.
[1:10:59] Okay. So [clears throat] and it's also
racist. So
[1:11:05] the modern day um slavery act ended
January no February this year. So when I
[1:11:15] go out there and I know [clears throat]
I own all the all the all not most of
[1:11:20] them all them all all because I I
inherited code one. Code one runs all
[1:11:27] offices but I get discriminated against
the whole time. They take two weeks off
[1:11:35] of discrimination out of 14 years. Been
homeless since the will got stolen out
[1:11:42] the house with my neighbor. So,
[clears throat]
[1:11:46] » thank you, sir.
>> That being said, I'll see you guys
[1:11:50] later. Okay. And
>> sir, can you please wrap up? Thank you.
[1:11:57] Your time is up, sir. I do need some
help with uh [clears throat] with my air
[1:12:02] inheritance and my paperwork. So, we'll
we'll touch with
[1:12:06] » Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:12:08] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Um we'll now go to uh any comments
[1:12:13] via Zoom.
>> We have no online comments.
[1:12:17] » Okay. All right. Uh I don't see any more
comments. So we'll close public comments
[1:12:23] and uh let's go to
our recommendation from this
[1:12:29] presentation that should be included in
the annual report to the city council.
[1:12:33] » I will start with member Camina.
>> Uh chair.
[1:12:37] » Yes. I want to give you time for your
comment. I didn't forget you had a
[1:12:40] comment to my
>> Yes. And I need them to be present.
[1:12:45] » Okay. My apologies. I ke I will keep my
promise. Why don't you go first, please?
[1:12:50] Because Okay.
[1:12:55] » Um, Director Murphy, I really appreciate
that you're having pointed out
[1:13:04] the the level of violence versus what's
reported. Um,
[1:13:11] and I would like to comment that my
comment is for thanking you. It's to the
[1:13:17] chair and to the people that are present
in the audience.
[1:13:22] The comments about safety
and the comments about participation in
[1:13:27] community.
Uh of the committee members I have
[1:13:32] walked Anderson Street.
Of the committee members I have gone
[1:13:38] into the park may I call it you know.
Yeah. the camping that SCA I have gone
[1:13:46] in there
>> and to hear the concerns of people about
[1:13:50] safety and so forth.
>> It's not as something is happening every
[1:13:56] moment because you have the staff there.
You have the case managers. This
[1:14:02] particular area is will be safe just
like the one over at you know the other
[1:14:08] the S SCA S.
And I just wanted to have that stated
[1:14:15] out loud. It's not like you're walking
past people and they're jumping on you
[1:14:19] as we kind of just heard. Um that
doesn't happen in that fashion. And
[1:14:25] there are members in the community who
have been homeless and who are no longer
[1:14:30] homeless that can also address that
issue. People are people and that's how
[1:14:36] we should be treating each other first
and foremost without the assumption that
[1:14:41] you're going to be harmed. You know,
it's, you know, I've walked those
[1:14:47] streets and talked to those people in
both sites. Thank you.
[1:14:52] » Thank you. Thank you. Um, member Camina,
>> um, I failed to ask one question, so if
[1:14:58] I might do that, um, before I give you
my comments, which is there's no street
[1:15:03] team anymore. Is there why? And is it
possible to get it back? I thought it
[1:15:08] was great.
>> Uh, they shut down their business
[1:15:12] um, late last year. So, downtown streets
does not exist.
[1:15:20] » So sad. Well, and my comments are um
First, thank you again for being here.
[1:15:26] But, you know, it's by the grace of God
or a gene, um, any of us could be in the
[1:15:32] situation of homelessness. And I
certainly didn't mean to imply that this
[1:15:36] was a violent nature. I was just curious
about what was happening.
[1:15:38] » Yes.
>> I am so I have seen you walking down
[1:15:42] Anderson Drive talking with people and I
so much appreciate that you guys are
[1:15:47] here with the amount I'm going to cry.
with the amount of compassion that you
[1:15:51] have and the understanding and if it
weren't for your gift that you're giving
[1:15:57] to our community, I think it would be
very different. So, I thank you. Thank
[1:16:02] you.
>> Thank you. You guys want to hang up? We
[1:16:05] have going to shower you with some
compliments. So, I know if if you're in
[1:16:09] a hurry, please go. But if you don't
mind, maybe stick around. Um, member
[1:16:13] Newan,
>> there's no comment. Thank you very much
[1:16:17] for your presentation. Okay. Member
Rodas,
[1:16:21] » no comment, but thank you.
>> Member Ruiz,
[1:16:25] » no comment.
>> Member Tokahi,
[1:16:30] um I just wanted to say kudos to you and
and the safe team and the one safe team
[1:16:34] that's still doing the all the work that
you guys are doing. Uh I know it's not
[1:16:38] easy. I've been there. I've done the
work. Um burned out a few times, you
[1:16:43] know, after three years. I'm like, you
know, I can't do it. Um it's not easy
[1:16:49] but kudos to you and the one safe team
that has been doing a lot of work and
[1:16:54] also some of the the case managers some
of the other agencies like St. Vincent
[1:16:59] uh we have Rita the Rita house uh Rita
center um and other agencies that are
[1:17:05] still doing the work. I know the work
that that all of you guys have done is a
[1:17:12] lot but we all know that it's not going
to solve the issue. you know, we wish
[1:17:16] there's more shelters,
uh, more beds open at some other places.
[1:17:22] I don't know. Like, can we find funding
somewhere and build more, you know,
[1:17:27] because we know like the folks once we
we close an encampment like we're going
[1:17:33] to ask that questions like where those
folks going to go, you know,
[1:17:38] maybe the city can or maybe with us, we
can work with the city. We can work
[1:17:43] together to find spaces
There are folks who also live in their
[1:17:47] cars. That's their means of
transportation. Like they have all their
[1:17:51] stuff in their cars. That's home for
them. Maybe we can give them a pass. I
[1:17:56] don't know. And I'll work with the city
folks. Give them a pass so they can I
[1:18:01] don't know, give them a placard so they
can park somewhere or or allocate
[1:18:06] an area for them to park with their
vehicles, you know. Um I don't know.
[1:18:12] this I know there's still a lot of work
to do but I also want to appreciate
[1:18:17] everything that everyone has put in you
know it's it's a long journey and once
[1:18:23] we see someone take that that next steps
and get housed and get a job you know
[1:18:30] like we've seen some of them here and
all um kudos to you guys with sticking
[1:18:36] with the program and all and taking that
next steps
[1:18:40] » so thank Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And then uh
[1:18:44] alternate member Valdez.
>> Um just thank you for your presentation
[1:18:48] and also like they mention all the work
that you do. I think it makes a big
[1:18:53] difference for the homeless population.
>> Okay. For me, I really have more um
[1:18:58] praise than recommendation. You guys
provide a corrective experience out in
[1:19:02] the world. I've seen what you guys do.
You and I have met with the business
[1:19:06] community. You're so available every
time I call you so to can meet with
[1:19:09] someone just to educate them on what we
do. side. I just want to thank you for
[1:19:11] your time. Um, the word unique has been
used today. So, I'll use it again. You
[1:19:15] serve a unique role because you wear a
uniform. You don't have a weapon. Your
[1:19:19] weapon is your relationship is your
word, your loyalty. It's those
[1:19:23] relationships you develop with people.
So, it's you do have a unique role here.
[1:19:28] Um, and you know, myself, I used to
serve in a 5150 unit. And that I see
[1:19:32] when people would get discharged and
they would keep ending coming back to
[1:19:36] the inatient psych hospital. And the
ones that had the most efficacy were the
[1:19:40] ones who went to a short-term house and
eventually were placed in a long-term
[1:19:44] home. I had the most efficate rate of
people finding roots, finding home. And
[1:19:48] once when you get to know their story,
you develop empathy and you realize like
[1:19:52] it's hard. It's hard, you know, living
on the street. You really applaud them
[1:19:55] for the, you know, how much stamina they
have. Um, so I appreciate what you guys
[1:20:00] do. Um I I don't have any more comments.
I think I think with that note if
[1:20:06] there's no other things we can adjourn,
I think. Right. All right. Thank you.
[1:20:13] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.