[0:09] All right,
[0:11] welcome to the Parks and Recreation
[0:13] Commission regular meeting of August
[0:15] 20th, 2026. The time is 610. Apologize
[0:19] for being late. Becky, would you please
[0:21] call the role?
[0:23] >> Commissioner Emerson,
[0:25] he is absent. Uh, Commissioner Cabales
[0:29] >> here.
[0:31] >> Commissioner Gutirez
[0:32] >> here.
[0:33] >> Chair pasternac
[0:34] >> here.
[0:35] >> And Commissioner Sandival is also
[0:38] absent. All right. Thank you.
[0:42] >> All right. Uh, first item up is to
[0:45] approve our regular meeting minutes of
[0:47] May 21st, 2026.
[0:50] Do we have any questions on
[0:54] May I have a motion and a second to
[0:56] approve the minutes?
[0:58] >> I wasn't here.
[1:00] >> I move to approve the minutes.
[1:02] [laughter]
[1:02] >> Okay,
[1:05] >> I second.
[1:08] >> Commissioner Emerson.
[1:12] » Oh, absent. I'm sorry. Commissioner
[1:13] Calles.
[1:15] >> Yes.
[1:16] >> Commissioner Gutirez.
[1:17] >> Yes.
[1:17] >> And Chair Pastor. Yes.
[1:19] >> All right. Motion to approve. Thank you.
[1:22] >> All right. Uh, next we have open time
[1:25] for public expression. The public is
[1:27] welcome to address the commission at
[1:28] this time on matters not listed on the
[1:30] agenda that are within its jurisdiction.
[1:33] Comments may be no longer than two
[1:35] minutes and should be respectful to the
[1:36] community. Is there anyone in the
[1:38] audience who would like to share public
[1:39] comment?
[1:41] Right. Since there's no one in the
[1:43] audience, we will close public comment.
[1:46] Uh, and moving on. No special
[1:48] presentations. So, we're moving right
[1:50] into our main agenda. Agenda item three,
[1:55] uh, athletic fields policy update. All
[1:58] right. Well, it's great to see you all.
[2:00] Happy August. Hard to believe school's
[2:02] back in session. Summer's winding down,
[2:04] but, uh, we are happy to be here. I'll
[2:07] share a couple of updates on kind of
[2:09] events and happenings as well. But, uh,
[2:11] I'm going to introduce Darcy Chaloo in a
[2:13] minute, and we're going to pull a
[2:14] presentation. We wanted to share with
[2:16] you an update on our athletic field
[2:19] policy. We had a couple changes that we
[2:20] thought this would be a really good time
[2:22] to to make in light of some um different
[2:24] demands for field use and um some
[2:27] conflicts that we've seen with, you
[2:29] know, similarly prioritized groups. So,
[2:31] we're gonna kind of walk you through
[2:32] what some of those needs look like. And
[2:34] Darcy really supervises a lot of our
[2:37] fields these days. So, I'm gonna let you
[2:39] take the show from here and I'll pull up
[2:40] that presentation. All right.
[3:04] Okay.
[3:07] >> All right.
[3:07] >> You see that? You good? Good.
[3:09] >> Um Darcy oversee our athletic fields. Um
[3:14] mainly the two that we're really
[3:16] referring to are Albert Field here and
[3:17] the pickle weed um fields. Um although
[3:21] we do oversee um Albert Field, Bernard
[3:23] Hoffman Fields, uh Pickled Field Fields,
[3:26] and then Victor Jones has a small T-ball
[3:29] field there. Um this hasn't changed.
[3:32] This is our all of our fields, the
[3:34] amenities they provide, and our primary
[3:36] and secondary use um for the fields. Um
[3:39] we get some different requests that come
[3:42] in every now and then. I think we just
[3:44] got a Cricut request uh to come out here
[3:47] and I haven't heard back from them. I
[3:48] said we'd do it, but um these are kind
[3:50] of the just the main sports that we get
[3:54] requests for.
[3:57] Um
[3:59] so we
[4:03] have an exist existing field use and
[4:06] application policy and we're just um
[4:09] requesting to change a few of um clarify
[4:12] some things um give prior to use um and
[4:16] then some rules and regulations um that
[4:18] have to do with some of the challenges
[4:20] that we're seeing at Picklefield.
[4:22] Um, we're proposing several changes to
[4:25] the policy um to address increased
[4:27] competition, unpermitted use, um,
[4:30] violations of field use regulations, um,
[4:33] and changes in demand due to the
[4:35] facility improvements. um specifically
[4:37] at pickle.
[4:40] Um
[4:42] we so
[4:45] our is this the okay our proposed
[4:48] changes are to clarify um fields that
[4:51] may be used for emergency response
[4:53] purposes. So just understand to the
[4:55] community that if you know something
[4:57] does happen we can close down you know
[5:00] their use of the field to open it up for
[5:02] emergencies. Um, we want to introduce a
[5:05] new tiebreaking criteria, which I'll get
[5:07] into a little bit later. Um, modify the
[5:11] field application process to introduce
[5:13] two seasons. So, for pickleed, because
[5:15] they are year round, um, we we normally
[5:18] just accept applications um once a year
[5:21] for the entire following year, but since
[5:24] pickleed is now um year round, we
[5:27] thought we'd break that up into two
[5:29] separate seasons to accept those
[5:30] applications. Um, introduce new field
[5:33] prep cleanup regulations specifically
[5:35] for pickle weed. Um, prohibit rental
[5:38] exchange subleting of field use space.
[5:42] Uh, prohibit vending sales unless
[5:44] authorized by the city. Prohibit
[5:46] gambling at the fields and introduce a
[5:49] field monitor requirement for c certain
[5:52] programs.
[5:54] Um, so we can get into the tiebreaking
[5:56] criteria. Um, so we're proposing that if
[6:00] we get a tie, um, which means their
[6:04] prioritization is the same. Let's say
[6:06] they're both nonprofit, they both, um,
[6:10] are Santafell residents, um, they're
[6:12] both serving youth. That's like our top
[6:14] prioritization on our on our list. Um,
[6:17] we have quite a few different
[6:18] organizations that meet that criterion.
[6:20] And so our I think our um our our rules
[6:25] currently it says to pull straws which
[6:28] we found that out.
[6:30] >> Was that last year?
[6:31] >> Yeah.
[6:31] >> Um yeah. So we we didn't like that
[6:34] [laughter]
[6:35] >> very much.
[6:36] >> It works but it's maybe not the best
[6:38] approach. Yeah.
[6:39] >> Um you know so we kind of um came these
[6:43] [clears throat] are the things that we
[6:44] came up with um to come up with the for
[6:48] the tiebreaking. So um first we would
[6:51] obviously work with the organizations
[6:52] like this is what we currently do. If
[6:54] two organizations are tied you know I
[6:56] work with both parties to see like how
[6:58] can we make this work together a lot of
[7:00] these field users they all know each
[7:02] other and they and it usually resolves
[7:04] itself but there are a few cases that it
[7:06] doesn't. Um so then we would go into the
[7:09] organization standing with the city um
[7:12] including compliance with permit
[7:13] requirements, facility use policies and
[7:16] timely payment of fees for the fields.
[7:19] Um then we would move to percent if
[7:21] they're still tied um we would move to
[7:23] percentage of resident participants. So currently we don't ask
[7:28] for rosters from any of the teams to
[7:31] show that they are serving residents. Um
[7:34] so this would give us the ability to do
[7:36] that. Um and then the next would be
[7:39] lowest barriers to participation. So
[7:41] like is the organization offering
[7:43] scholarships um equitable and inclusive
[7:45] participation opportunities for
[7:47] everybody. Um the next would be the
[7:50] length um if we're still tied the length
[7:52] of the organization's relationship with
[7:54] the city um with consideration given to
[7:57] long-standing community partnerships
[7:58] that demonstrate a stewardship of city
[8:00] facilities. Um
[8:03] and obviously to reduce the
[8:05] administrative burden like asking for
[8:07] all these things up front. This would we
[8:09] would only be asking for those things um
[8:11] if there was a tie.
[8:14] >> I would we think that um really these
[8:19] first two steps will likely resolve most
[8:22] ties by the time we start looking at
[8:24] Santael residency.
[8:26] I think unless it's 100% residency for
[8:29] both works, there's it's likely one's
[8:31] going to come out on top of the other.
[8:33] So I think, you know, that is like like
[8:35] Darcy mentioned kind of a big lift to
[8:36] have to report all this information and
[8:38] collect all that information. We know a
[8:40] lot of groups might not even be
[8:41] collecting all that information on the
[8:43] front end. So I really don't want to do
[8:45] it unless we really need to.
[8:50] » So that's the the bigger one. And then
[8:52] the second one is just the application
[8:54] process was kind of what I touched on
[8:56] earlier. Um this only applies to faculty
[8:58] field. It would not apply to the other
[9:00] fields. Um but we're proposing that um
[9:03] we accept applications twice a year. So
[9:07] when we accept in September that would
[9:08] align with what we do here at Albert
[9:10] Field. Um we accept applications from
[9:13] September 1st to October 31st finalized
[9:15] by December 1st. Um but that only gives
[9:19] access for March to August. And then we
[9:21] would do that all over again in April
[9:24] and finalized by July 1st for the fall
[9:27] winter season, September through
[9:28] February.
[9:31] Um, and then all other like if those are
[9:34] kind of the most competitive people that
[9:36] are looking for the space that are doing
[9:38] this year round, year round, anybody can
[9:40] submit an applica application to us at
[9:42] any point during the year and if we have
[9:44] space we can fill them in.
[9:49] Um I think that's it. Yeah.
[9:53] >> Yeah.
[9:53] I think like one last comment on
[9:55] this. I think that you know we when we
[9:57] really have the situation where we have
[9:59] two equally prioritized groups that's
[10:00] usually when we have these open
[10:02] application windows for the field. So
[10:04] you know we we give ourselves this time
[10:06] to collect applications to really
[10:08] understand what is the demand what
[10:10] groups really want access to the field
[10:12] and try to give everyone an equal
[10:14] opportunity to have access. So that's
[10:16] why we have these specific application
[10:18] windows. We think that's important to
[10:20] make sure people really understand what
[10:22] they need to do to to get access to the
[10:24] facilities and then give us a chance to
[10:26] really truly review it on a
[10:28] prioritization schedule. I think that,
[10:30] you know, one of the the big goals for
[10:32] us with this policy is to make sure that
[10:34] it aligns with the values of the city
[10:36] and how we want to see these resources
[10:38] used by the community who should have
[10:41] first priority access. And you know, for
[10:43] us, we heavily prioritize local
[10:47] resident, youth, nonprofit groups really
[10:49] that do have lower barriers to entry. We
[10:52] want to see our fields used by groups
[10:54] that are going to be uh wreck play. That
[10:57] doesn't mean there's anything wrong with
[10:58] the other forms of play. We know a lot
[11:00] of groups are really pushing towards
[11:02] competitive play, but you know, for us
[11:04] as a municipal field, we think that's
[11:07] our top priority. not exclusive use for
[11:09] that but just one of our top priority
[11:10] user groups that we want to make sure
[11:12] does have access to the fields. So these
[11:15] windows are are really important and I
[11:17] think this is an iterative process. I
[11:19] think with pickle weed field in
[11:20] particular since the you know the all
[11:22] weather turf was installed we have seen
[11:24] higher demand and we're also seeing um
[11:26] requests for use come in in a different
[11:29] cadence than we had before. So we we're
[11:31] going to try this cadence this twice a
[11:33] year for now and see how it goes. We
[11:35] could always change that or adapt to
[11:37] seasonality moving forward, but based on
[11:40] what we've heard from the user groups,
[11:41] we think this will help them plan better
[11:45] uh and give them enough time to plan
[11:46] advance. Also give us enough of a a
[11:49] calendar that we can fill so we have
[11:51] plans in advance as well. But but like
[11:53] Darcy mentioned, if we get requests off
[11:55] cycle, we'll always do the best we can
[11:57] to fill on a first come first- serve
[12:00] basis. And that's where then okay, the
[12:02] cricket team wants to come play and
[12:04] we've got space. Yeah, we'll we'll
[12:05] consider that even though it's not one
[12:07] of those top priority business points.
[12:11] >> Yeah. Anything else you want to add?
[12:13] >> No. Yeah, just in that application
[12:15] window like it it really does take two
[12:18] months to [laughter]
[12:20] figure out how to to fit that puzzle
[12:23] together. And um you know, organizations
[12:25] are usually really good like at first
[12:26] they kind of ask for everything, right?
[12:28] and I then we have to go back and and talk about that. You know, they
[12:33] always ask for the world first and then
[12:35] we have to rein it in to try to even it
[12:38] out. So,
[12:39] >> um I'm going to go back to a couple
[12:41] other comments on a few of these other
[12:43] changes. Um I think the tiebreaking
[12:46] criteria and the seasonal requests for
[12:48] use are the two most impactful that
[12:51] we've identified. We even though the the
[12:54] tiebreaking criteria we we we're saying
[12:56] it's impactful, I don't think it's going
[12:58] to have a significant impact on most
[13:00] groups. I think the area that we see the
[13:03] most conflict right now where we have
[13:05] groups that are equally prioritized, it
[13:08] really is in the the the local resident
[13:11] nonprofit youth category and we have a
[13:13] lot of groups that are offering programs
[13:15] in that category. So, and I do think
[13:18] that um that's one I want to flag that
[13:20] there could be um uh some groups that
[13:23] come out with more space and maybe some
[13:25] groups that come out with less depending
[13:27] on how many standard residents they're
[13:29] serving if we implement a tiebreaker
[13:32] policy like this. So, I I want to just
[13:34] make sure that that's clear. We're
[13:35] trying to solve that problem on our end
[13:37] so we're not left flipping a coin or
[13:39] throwing a straw because we don't feel
[13:41] that that's necessarily the best way to
[13:44] make that decision. This is a
[13:45] valuesbased recommendation that we're
[13:48] making that we think aligns with our
[13:49] values. But ultimately that does mean
[13:51] that some groups may get space if
[13:53] they're serving more residents than
[13:55] others. And so uh we definitely just
[13:57] want to make sure that that's clear. Um
[13:59] I think we've we've looked specifically
[14:01] at Elbert Field and I think uh you know
[14:04] there's some examples of that that we
[14:05] could get into where we have had
[14:07] tiebreers. We've had to talk with
[14:08] multiple groups that are in that same
[14:10] category. And like Darcy said too, I
[14:12] think we do try to do a great job. I
[14:14] think Darcy's done a wonderful job of
[14:17] really trying to help groups compromise
[14:19] and and look for win-win situations as
[14:21] opposed to all the space going to one
[14:24] group and then monopolizing it just
[14:26] because they may have a higher
[14:27] prioritization level. And that's really
[14:29] our goal here. it's not to not to try
[14:32] to, you know, dictate who gets the
[14:34] field, but really just to help create
[14:35] some systems that are easy for us to
[14:37] navigate. Um, but a couple other things
[14:39] I wanted to point out. I think with um,
[14:41] you know, the rental exchange, subleting
[14:43] of field space, that is not a common
[14:45] thing, but we felt this was a good time
[14:47] to introduce that. We have had a couple
[14:49] examples where we found groups swapping
[14:52] field time. And while that's not a
[14:55] that's not um probably the biggest
[14:57] concern that we have, it does lead to
[14:59] confusion and and it can be challenging
[15:01] for us if we don't know who's on the
[15:02] field. Uh uh particularly if there's an
[15:05] issue, accident, injury, a concern, that
[15:07] can be a confusing situation for us. So
[15:09] we wanted to clarify that. Um, gambling
[15:12] is already prohibited in the parks, but
[15:14] we wanted to call that out because we
[15:16] have had situations, particularly with
[15:18] some of the the adult leagues that have
[15:20] operated at Pickle Park where we have
[15:22] found um that gambling has been
[15:25] occurring, some illegal um sales of
[15:28] merchandise associated with some of
[15:30] those leagues. So, we did want to just
[15:32] call that out explicitly in here. That
[15:34] helps, I think, our renters really
[15:36] understand that that's that's not
[15:37] allowed. And uh we want to make sure
[15:39] that that's clear that you know those
[15:41] types of behaviors if they're coming
[15:43] with programs uh it it it might make it
[15:46] difficult for them to continue renting
[15:48] with us moving forward. So and then the
[15:50] field monitor program is something we
[15:52] actually just implemented last year at
[15:54] Pickle Field for the first time. And for
[15:56] some of our commercial rentals in the
[15:58] past we've um required security. um we
[16:02] feel that a city employee that has a
[16:04] board of understanding of the field and
[16:06] the rules and and how to help support
[16:08] groups might be of more of a benefit to
[16:10] these groups. So in place of requiring a
[16:13] you know a security guard from a company
[16:15] that's kind of just going to post up and
[16:17] be there having a field monitor that can really be a liazison between the
[16:22] city and the groups. Um we're we're
[16:24] going to try implementing that instead.
[16:26] And so for those same commercial groups
[16:27] that we required security instead we we
[16:30] uh may be looking at a field monitor in
[16:32] place of that. We're also going to offer
[16:34] that to groups that really feel like
[16:35] they need it. I think particularly at
[16:37] pickle weed field with the two fields if
[16:39] there's two groups out there at the same
[16:40] time we're going to encourage groups
[16:42] maybe to have a field monitor present
[16:43] that can help just be a point person in
[16:45] case there's any issues concerns.
[16:48] So I just wanted to highlight a couple
[16:49] of the reasons why we're looking at
[16:50] these changes.
[16:53] I think that's it though.
[16:58] So, yeah. All right. Uh, any questions?
[17:02] >> Um, I I did have a question about um I
[17:04] was reading through the agenda and um
[17:07] first off, I want to say I love building
[17:09] processes to help make decisions.
[17:11] Totally support that. I think that's a
[17:13] great idea. It's good for you guys. It's
[17:15] good for the people who are applying. I
[17:17] think I like all that. Um, but as I was
[17:20] reading it, I I saw that the priority
[17:23] list ha had some like obviously it was
[17:26] far down the priority list, but had some
[17:28] that weren't San Rafale. And like I had
[17:30] just expected that of course every
[17:33] possible San Rafll one would be above
[17:36] anybody from outside the city and and I
[17:39] was wondering did I read that right? And
[17:42] is that is that um I know you guys
[17:44] prioritize centerfell residents so I
[17:46] wasn't sure what the
[17:49] >> Yes, I believe that on a category
[17:52] bycategory basis um residency is going
[17:55] to the Sandersville residents are going
[17:56] to get priority over non-residents.
[17:59] >> Um so I'm pretty sure it's the way it's
[18:01] intended. We'll go I'll go back and take
[18:03] a a look just to double check, but I'm
[18:05] pretty confident that we prioritize
[18:07] anyone that's a resident based group
[18:09] over a non-res.
[18:11] >> Yeah. So, Sanfell based. So, there's,
[18:14] you know, youth serving, adult serving, and that's
[18:18] the primary and secondary uses. So, like
[18:20] the first slide that we had up there,
[18:22] and then it's non Sanderfell based. And
[18:25] then maybe you're referring to number
[18:26] six where it's standfal based nonprofit
[18:29] organizations for other permitted uses.
[18:31] And I think that's more eventbased or if
[18:35] it's not part of it's not baseball, it's
[18:38] not softball, it's not volleyball,
[18:41] >> sports and then got it. Okay. That Yeah,
[18:44] I knew there I knew you guys always do
[18:47] that and so I was like I understand why
[18:48] this is okay. Yeah, I'll give you an I
[18:51] think we've had a couple examples of
[18:53] groups that have wanted to rent the park
[18:56] for I think we had one it was um it was
[18:58] like a commercial film shoot we've had
[19:00] out there. We've had other groups that
[19:02] want to have more of like um special
[19:05] events or other types of programs that
[19:07] are non-sports. And I think in that case
[19:09] we would still prioritize the sports use
[19:12] >> because that aligns with the the way the
[19:14] facility was designed and intended to be
[19:16] used. We we can accommodate some of
[19:18] those types of programs at the field
[19:20] occasionally, but yeah, it would just be
[19:21] lower priority regardless of resial
[19:23] stats.
[19:24] >> Yes.
[19:25] >> But that's that's a good catch.
[19:28] >> Um I had a question [clears throat]
[19:30] on the timeline. Um the is July 1 as
[19:35] someone who's been on a local
[19:37] immigration
[19:39] sports team, not getting your field
[19:41] until July 1 for a season that starts
[19:43] August, you know, 15th feels tight. But
[19:45] I I I assume based on your the old
[19:48] pickle weed schedule that they're used
[19:51] to that. I've never been directly
[19:52] involved in that, but like is that
[19:54] timeline
[19:56] enough time for organizations to be like
[19:58] great, we've got our fields?
[20:00] >> Yeah, I think it's a good question. I
[20:01] think you know what we've got right now
[20:02] is applications April 1 through May 31,
[20:06] decision by July 1 for field use
[20:08] starting September one. So you're right,
[20:10] like that's only gives about a month of
[20:12] heads up notice. Historically at Pickle
[20:16] Field before we did this conversion, the
[20:19] field was uh I would say more often than
[20:22] not closed in the fall season due to the
[20:25] field conditions. We didn't really have
[20:26] any user groups out there. So I think
[20:29] we're still trying to fine-tune what is
[20:31] that right cadence and I we want to try
[20:34] this to see how it goes. We talked with
[20:36] our staff team about how this not only
[20:39] aligns with the field use but also with
[20:41] our um our pickle advisory committee
[20:44] co-sponsorship application process. So
[20:46] that was another factor here. I think
[20:48] this probably um we'll try this and see
[20:51] how this works. But I think it's a good
[20:52] point. You know, is that enough time?
[20:54] And I think we'll have to kind of
[20:55] monitor that and watch that. I think
[20:57] that's an adjustment we could likely
[20:59] make at a staff department level. if we
[21:02] needed to open a little earlier, we
[21:04] could probably make that change to
[21:05] respond to the community.
[21:08] >> Um, and then just the other one, the the
[21:10] list of criteria you have under number
[21:13] two are listed as bullet points. It
[21:15] wasn't clear to me that it was one then
[21:18] two then three. So, just for a
[21:21] >> in the Yeah, I think in
[21:23] >> Yeah, if it's really
[21:24] >> for the uh that's a good point too.
[21:26] actually talked about that for the
[21:28] presentation their bullets but in the
[21:31] proposed application they are actually
[21:33] listed and I think it specifies that we
[21:36] would go in that order number one number
[21:39] two
[21:42] >> same question
[21:43] >> uh I had a question about um is there
[21:46] online visibility into uh who's using
[21:49] the fields and like if there's available
[21:52] because I'm just thinking about the
[21:53] small organizations who like I just want
[21:54] to go in I play one on one random day.
[21:58] Is there a way to like go online and see
[22:00] like
[22:01] >> where those spots might be?
[22:03] >> I tried this year to do an online
[22:05] calendar. Um it's tough because field
[22:10] users change their requests quite a bit
[22:13] and our our active system or
[22:15] registration system doesn't
[22:18] as far as we know doesn't have like a
[22:20] calendar that we can just implement to
[22:21] go into our website. So, it was like I
[22:24] was updating it here on my own personal
[22:26] calendar that I share with all the user
[22:28] groups and then again on the website and
[22:30] it just like it was kind of a lot. Um,
[22:33] so I I think like halfway through the
[22:34] season I was like I don't even know if
[22:36] anybody's looking at this online
[22:37] calendar. But if anybody does reach out,
[22:39] I do have like a personal calendar that
[22:41] has all of the field the organization's
[22:44] name on the calendar and I'll just send
[22:45] that to them if they're like hey I need
[22:47] these three dates. I'm like great here's
[22:48] my calendar. I don't have those dates,
[22:50] but if you can find some time, like I'll
[22:52] put you on. So, I have it, but
[22:55] [laughter] it isn't it is
[22:57] >> it's not a publicly available thing.
[22:59] Citywide, we are working on a new
[23:00] website that is something that we're
[23:02] going to be rolling out likely this
[23:03] fall. And I think as part of that
[23:05] effort, we've been working with our
[23:06] digital services team for different
[23:08] calendar views in the pool example where
[23:11] we know right now it's a static PDF
[23:14] document, right?
[23:14] >> And we'd love to make that a little more
[23:16] interactive, a little more accessible
[23:18] for the community. I think we've been
[23:19] exploring whether we can, you know, use
[23:21] that for fields and other program
[23:23] activities as well. And so had a
[23:26] conversation last week with our
[23:27] marketing coordinator in digital and
[23:29] they're gonna they're exploring whether
[23:30] there's any kind of plugins that might
[23:32] work that might be easier than you know
[23:35] duplicating the calendar three times and
[23:37] then having version control issues and
[23:39] one thing says one.
[23:41] >> But I I think with all of that kind of
[23:43] stuff that it's like kind of all in the
[23:45] details too. I think there the flip side
[23:47] of that too. I don't we want to be um
[23:49] sensitive to you know groups to make
[23:51] sure that we're like advertising which
[23:52] group is on the field at what part in
[23:53] time like like the way our our system
[23:56] intakes information sometimes the
[23:58] calendar pumps out it has like the
[24:00] person's name who rented it as opposed
[24:02] to the organization.
[24:04] So you know I think finding a way to
[24:06] make sure that it's just clear that it's
[24:08] reserved
[24:08] >> right kind of working.
[24:11] >> But yeah I think we all would like to
[24:12] see that as well. I think it'd be
[24:14] helpful not only to share what's
[24:16] available, but it might help fill space
[24:18] because people know that it's available.
[24:21] We can get on the field at this point.
[24:23] >> Yeah.
[24:23] >> Great. Thank you.
[24:26] Any other comments from us? Uh an open
[24:31] uh public comment. Are you here to
[24:33] comment on?
[24:35] I was just wondering if there would ever
[24:38] come a point when you would need to make
[24:40] a list public of how long these
[24:43] organizations have been publicly
[24:45] standing with, you know, with the use of
[24:49] Alberts, for example, like how long
[24:51] Santa Bell League has been there, how
[24:52] long, you know, would you have to
[24:55] actually make that list or would it just
[24:57] come down to the tiebreaker when you
[24:59] went to that number?
[25:03] Yeah, I mean I I'll just answer that
[25:05] question. I I um I think it would come
[25:08] down to the tiebreaker, right? if we
[25:10] really had to get to that I think it's
[25:13] level number four number five where
[25:15] we're really looking at length of
[25:17] relationship with the city that's when
[25:19] we probably have to go in and really try
[25:20] to figure that out because I know a lot
[25:22] of organizations include including SRL
[25:25] have been with uh the city for quite a
[25:27] long time and that those are um
[25:30] important relationships to us so I think
[25:32] we'd have to really take a close look at
[25:35] standing and and the length of
[25:37] relationship I honestly I hope it
[25:38] doesn't get down to that but we felt
[25:41] that might be you know just one
[25:43] additional indicator of the values of of
[25:47] not only the organizations in the city
[25:48] and the relationship that they have with
[25:50] the community but uh a way that we could
[25:52] potentially break the tie.
[25:54] >> Yeah.
[25:56] >> All right. At this time we'll close
[25:57] public comment.
[26:00] Request a motion and a second to approve
[26:04] agenda item. I move
[26:06] >> to approve it. I'll second.
[26:11] » Commissioner Cabales.
[26:13] >> Yes.
[26:14] >> Commissioner Gutirez.
[26:15] >> Yes.
[26:16] >> And chair pass.
[26:18] >> Yes.
[26:18] >> Right. Motion approved. Thank you.
[26:21] >> Thank you.
[26:22] >> Moving on to I know you already approved
[26:25] it. I'm gonna make one more comment
[26:27] about timeline and process which I don't
[26:29] think is gonna change your decision, but
[26:30] I just want to let you know that there's
[26:32] a couple things we're trying to include
[26:35] in the application packet itself that um
[26:37] we just want to we want to run it by our
[26:39] city attorneys just to make sure. So
[26:41] process from here, we want to take any
[26:43] feedback that we heard. I think we still
[26:44] have time to refine maybe timelines. So
[26:46] we might I might take a closer look at
[26:48] that with you, Darcy. Um, we want to run
[26:50] it by our city attorneys just to make
[26:51] sure there's no language in there that's
[26:53] going to be um, out of step with like
[26:55] our municipal code when it comes to the
[26:57] reference to gambling, stuff like that.
[27:00] Once that's done, then we'll have a
[27:01] final version that will continue to
[27:03] circulate to the field user groups. Want
[27:05] to make sure they're also aware of the
[27:06] changes and then we'd be implementing it
[27:08] as part of the the fall cycle for for
[27:12] field applications. So, just want to
[27:13] make sure that you kind of knew that.
[27:15] Thank you.
[27:19] Sorry about that. Thank you. Uh all
[27:22] right. Uh agenda item uh 3B uh which is
[27:27] annual pickleweed advisory committee
[27:29] update.
[27:30] >> Yeah. And I'll be sharing that one
[27:32] today. So I'm gonna
[27:35] share my screen again here.
[27:45] Hey
[27:49] So
[27:52] we the last time park and recck
[27:54] commission met for a regular meeting was
[27:57] back in May and then in June we didn't
[28:01] have any agenda items so we ended up
[28:03] cancing the June meeting and then July
[28:05] we had the the park tour uh at 620 Canal
[28:08] Street and one update I wanted to share
[28:11] um you know that happened in June is uh
[28:15] Christy Hubaker who was direct
[28:17] supervisor for the Borough Community
[28:18] Center. Uh she actually resigned, took
[28:21] uh took a different position and she
[28:22] left the city. And so that's why I'm
[28:25] giving this report is right now uh we do
[28:28] not have a a supervisor at the Boro
[28:30] Community Center. However, Darcy has
[28:33] been uh helping support the Boro
[28:36] Community Center. So uh she's been
[28:38] gracious enough to step in, not only
[28:40] support here, but also help support
[28:42] them. Um yeah. [laughter]
[28:46] Um I am pleased to report though that um
[28:49] we did make a decision for a supervisor
[28:52] appointment. So starting October one, we
[28:55] are going to have a supervisor. Uh you may uh have met her before. Her
[28:59] name's Christina Farhank. She's
[29:00] currently the program coordinator at the
[29:02] Teran Linda Community Center. Helps
[29:04] support the community center and our
[29:05] aquatics program there. Has been with
[29:07] the city for more than 10 years. So I'm
[29:09] excited to share that she's going to be
[29:10] stepping into that role in October. So
[29:12] there's a transition period here. We're
[29:15] also going to be standing up a
[29:16] recruitment to replace Christina, which
[29:18] are that's big shoes to fill. It's an
[29:20] important role at TL with the aquatics.
[29:23] So as soon as that recruitment's flying,
[29:25] I'll be sharing that. So but in the
[29:27] meantime, you're stuck with me giving
[29:29] this pickle advisory committee report.
[29:31] So um I want to share a little bit about
[29:33] the the committee. Um this is a and I I
[29:37] this is an annual report that we um want
[29:39] to share with you because I think this
[29:41] is really important work that this group
[29:43] does. Um pickleweed advisory committee
[29:45] is an advisory board. They're really
[29:47] focused specifically on canal
[29:48] neighborhood picklee park and the aloro
[29:51] community center. It's different from
[29:52] park and rec commission. They're really
[29:54] intended to provide direct canal
[29:55] community voice on the facilities and
[29:57] programs that happen in the park and
[29:59] community center there. Um there's are
[30:02] 10 members currently on the pickle
[30:04] advisory committee. Um seven of them are
[30:06] voting. Uh so one of those members is an
[30:08] alternate. Um we have a rep from the
[30:12] park and recreation commission as well
[30:14] that sits on. Uh we also I want to flag
[30:16] that we have um two current vacancies,
[30:19] an alternate vacancy and a youth member
[30:21] vacancy. Youth member could be between
[30:23] the ages of nine and 18 years old. uh
[30:27] and I you know that has been a position
[30:28] that we've often struggled to fill but
[30:31] could have a really incredible impact on
[30:33] the community. So want to um see if we
[30:36] can try to fill that uh position this
[30:39] year. Uh the group meets every other
[30:41] month uh the first Wednesday of the
[30:43] month. So it's I think the cadence is
[30:45] they start in February each year.
[30:47] February, April, June, August and
[30:51] October typically are are off cycle in
[30:53] December.
[30:55] Uh the goal here is to provide a forum
[30:57] for canal residents, advise park and
[30:59] recreck commission, city council, city
[31:01] staff and the matters concerning the
[31:03] park and the center and really make
[31:05] recommendations on policies and
[31:06] procedures. A big part of the agenda
[31:10] items that come their way are to review
[31:12] co-sponsorship programming and use
[31:13] agreements. Um the city has an existing
[31:17] policy that allows us to wave fees for
[31:20] programs that are in alignment with that
[31:22] policy. um that uh is limited up to a
[31:25] threshold certain dollar amount of the
[31:27] value of the fee waiverss. Uh and this
[31:29] year that threshold is up to $168,000
[31:33] worth of fees can be waved. So, you
[31:35] know, this group is the advisory group
[31:38] that really receives those applications
[31:40] and has a chance to advise the city on
[31:42] which part which program should we
[31:44] partner with and and wave fees for
[31:48] um
[31:49] the fee wavers reductions as part of
[31:51] that program. It it's really up to staff
[31:55] to make recommendations and then for the
[31:57] committee to advise on, you know, how
[31:59] much uh of the fee we should be waving.
[32:02] It could be a small amount. It could be
[32:04] all the way up to 100%. And we can
[32:06] receive applications for facility use up
[32:09] to 12 months. Programs have to be
[32:12] eligible. Um, so the event has to be
[32:14] open to all residents of San Rafale.
[32:16] There can be, you know, special
[32:18] requirements. I'll use sports as an
[32:20] example. If there's a minimum age or
[32:22] skill level for a particular program,
[32:24] that that's still okay. But we want to
[32:26] make sure that the programs are open to
[32:28] all residents, that they're of direct
[32:29] benefit to the community. And I think an
[32:32] important component here is that we want
[32:34] these programs to be low or no fee to
[32:38] participants to re remove or reduce the
[32:40] barriers to participation.
[32:42] Uh and the proposed activity can't be
[32:44] part of any private commercial
[32:45] enterprise or other promotions.
[32:50] So this year so far in 2026, this is
[32:53] probably going to be hard to read, small
[32:55] font, but these are the programs that
[32:59] have been approved for co-sponsorships
[33:02] uh this year at the Boro Center at
[33:04] Pickle Park. First program on that list
[33:07] is the is the YMCA after school program.
[33:11] I think this is a really unique
[33:12] partnership. Um the YMCA provides an
[33:15] afterchool program in partnership with
[33:17] Sanderfell City Schools. Um the school
[33:20] district is receiving funds from the
[33:22] state extended learning opportunity
[33:24] program u funding that helps ensure that
[33:28] participants have um either very lowcost
[33:31] or free access to the program. So the
[33:33] YMCA provides the staffing for it and
[33:36] then they've applied for co-sponsorship
[33:38] to wave the facility rental fees. And so
[33:40] really there's quite a few organizations
[33:42] involved in providing that after school
[33:45] program for the community. Um, in
[33:47] addition, the YMCA offers a summer day
[33:48] camp program, uh, which, uh, a lot of
[33:51] the the same program participants are
[33:53] coming to that program, so it gives them
[33:55] continued care throughout the year. So,
[33:57] they've submitted two separate, um,
[33:59] sponsorship applications and so they're
[34:01] different program models.
[34:04] Uh, the Canal Football Club, Canal FC,
[34:07] uh, received, uh, co-sponsorship
[34:09] applications for their spring season as
[34:12] well as the fall and winter season. Um,
[34:15] I think the the reason there's two
[34:16] applications shown there is just because
[34:18] of the cycle of us trying to trying to
[34:21] adjust to the seasonality of of demand
[34:23] and make sure that we really understood
[34:25] what the demand demand was going to be
[34:27] and that the committee can understand
[34:29] that as well. So we asked them to come
[34:30] back with a second application in August
[34:32] this year. Typically they would u likely
[34:36] qualify to or be eligible to do just one
[34:38] annual application and that may be the case in the future. Uh, Zumba by
[34:43] Vivivalon,
[34:45] an older adult recreation program, uh,
[34:48] Drawbridge Arts Program,
[34:51] the the Scouts of America Troop 2000,
[34:54] Togo Cone Voice, Oracle Music has arts
[34:58] and science program and music
[34:59] instruction program, Canal Arts Family,
[35:02] an art program on Saturdays. Uh, there's
[35:06] a mural design element to that as well.
[35:09] uh a TAM adult school English as a
[35:12] second language program and the uh roots
[35:14] of the canal program which is a um an
[35:17] afterchool program Monday through Friday
[35:20] uh offered in the teen room at the Boro
[35:22] community center. So in total um the
[35:27] committee has approved uh $150,000 worth
[35:32] of requests. You can kind of see the
[35:34] different percent allocation for each of
[35:36] those those programs that have received
[35:38] funds. Um this isn't a direct cost to
[35:42] the city really. This is what the value
[35:44] would be if we were to have rented those
[35:47] facilities. So this doesn't represent a
[35:49] loss of revenue necessarily. Uh it's
[35:52] really more um uh I think that's a
[35:55] measure of like I said if if we were to
[35:59] rent the space during that point in
[36:00] time. There are a few direct costs for
[36:02] the city when we run these types of
[36:04] programs. There's utility expense,
[36:06] overhead, operational expenses. Uh but
[36:09] really there there are a few direct
[36:11] costs. In the case that there was a
[36:13] program that was happening after hours
[36:15] or when staff weren't present, we do do
[36:18] still reserve the right to schedule a
[36:20] facility attendant and potentially
[36:21] charge groups back for some of those
[36:23] additional supplemental costs. But we
[36:26] really view this as a way that we can
[36:28] ensure the community center and the park
[36:30] are are serving the community in ways
[36:34] that meet community needs. Um so you
[36:37] know to me I I I think this is a a
[36:39] really a great outcome to know that the
[36:42] community has had an opportunity to see
[36:44] these applications that groups have
[36:46] access uh to you know not only the field
[36:49] and the community center but really to
[36:51] provide these services to the community.
[36:54] uh we really view this as a positive
[36:56] part of our our overall program. Um
[36:59] there are a few things that I I think
[37:01] the committee we want to take a look at
[37:03] in the next year. Um as I mentioned, we
[37:05] want to recruit for those vacant uh
[37:07] advisory committee seats. So if you know
[37:09] anyone that's interested um send them
[37:12] our way. Uh happy to share what that
[37:14] process would look like to get an
[37:16] application in. Um we are reviewing the
[37:19] co-sponsorship application policy and
[37:21] procedures. I think there's a few things
[37:23] that we might want to take a look at and
[37:25] fine-tune. The last time that um policy
[37:28] was reviewed was 2021. Um I I think one
[37:32] example of something that I'd like to
[37:34] potentially change is right now we ask
[37:37] groups to submit an application and
[37:38] attend a meeting and give a presentation
[37:41] and then come back two months later and
[37:43] that's when the committee makes a
[37:45] decision. And I'm going to be
[37:47] recommending that we try to do that in
[37:49] one meeting um just for efficiency and
[37:52] for uh it's I've heard from some of the
[37:54] committee members that over the course
[37:56] of a two-month period it's hard to
[37:57] remember like what happened. And so
[38:00] there's a few things like that that I
[38:01] think we might want to try and clean up,
[38:03] but we also want to make sure that
[38:04] there's still a really intentional
[38:06] process and that the committee has good
[38:08] information in front of them to make a
[38:10] decision about who should get these
[38:12] dollars. Um, we're also expecting that,
[38:15] you know, with maybe better advertising
[38:17] of these co-sponsorship opportunities,
[38:19] um, we may see increased demand for use
[38:22] of the space. And I think that that
[38:24] raises some questions about, um, how
[38:27] what percent of fee waver should we be
[38:29] giving to groups? Who should receive
[38:31] these dollars? How should we kind of
[38:33] divvy up this pot of money that we have
[38:35] the ability to wave fees um, under? So
[38:39] while that hasn't been an issue in
[38:41] recent years, we can kind of see we're getting close to that threshold
[38:45] now. And um I think you know for us
[38:48] we've been talking about you know
[38:50] there's community center programs.
[38:51] There's a wide variety of different
[38:53] types of programs at community center.
[38:55] Now the field has increased demand.
[38:57] We're starting to see maybe some more
[38:58] demand for field use. What's the right
[39:00] mix? And I think on a staff level we may
[39:03] want to fine-tune. how do we make those
[39:05] recommendations to help the advisory
[39:07] committee understand what we think might
[39:08] be best and align with our values in in
[39:11] a way that can uh help inform them
[39:12] making those decisions. So likely going
[39:15] to be looking at that that policy in the
[39:17] next few months and maybe be coming back
[39:19] in 2027 with some recommendations for
[39:21] changes
[39:24] and I think with that I
[39:28] questions from the committee.
[39:31] No, I think those are great
[39:32] recommendations.
[39:36] » I know that the uh the presentation
[39:39] meetings can go long. Um do you think
[39:42] like combining the two would make that
[39:45] considerably longer or uh
[39:48] >> you know having the presentation and the
[39:49] decision making process? So, as someone
[39:53] who's worked in local parks and rack and
[39:56] government now for better part of 13
[39:59] years, there's nothing I love more than
[40:00] a 4 hour.
[40:03] [laughter]
[40:04] >> Um, the five hour meeting.
[40:06] >> Except the five hour meeting. No, I'm
[40:07] joking. Um, yeah, I think that, you
[40:10] know, I saw there was a pickle weed
[40:11] advisory committee meeting packet that
[40:13] exceeded 300 pages. And to me, I don't
[40:16] think that that is um well, I while I
[40:20] appreciate that this is important
[40:21] information and we want to make sure
[40:22] that applicants really are thorough and
[40:24] there's going to be good measurable
[40:26] outcomes, I think that's really hard for
[40:28] a volunteer that's taking time out of
[40:30] their schedule to really digest and
[40:32] understand and and I think that there's
[40:34] probably more efficient ways that we can
[40:36] help guide the committee in making those
[40:39] decisions based on some staff
[40:41] recommendations and input and instead of
[40:42] a 300page packet.
[40:45] um maybe a summary of the proposals and
[40:47] applications we've received. You know,
[40:49] how we think we may want to prioritize
[40:52] those dollars and recommendations and then have a robust discussion and
[40:56] some, you know, some presentations from
[40:57] the groups to help support why they feel
[41:00] they would be a good fit. Um but my hope
[41:02] would be that rather than lengthening
[41:04] the process, it would actually really
[41:06] shorten it and make it easier for
[41:08] everyone to digest it pretty much.
[41:11] >> I mean, it's always an amazing process.
[41:13] So yeah, but it is a long meeting
[41:16] >> and to be fair, they may still be need
[41:19] to be long meetings if there's
[41:20] discussion and real decisions.
[41:25] Nothing else. Uh this time we'll open
[41:28] public comment.
[41:31] This time we'll close public comment. Uh
[41:33] kind of a request to receive uh the
[41:36] report.
[41:37] >> I'll move to receive the report on
[41:40] pickle advisory committee. I will
[41:43] second.
[41:45] >> All right. Commissioner,
[41:48] >> yes.
[41:49] >> Commissioner Gutierz,
[41:50] >> yes.
[41:51] >> And Chair Pastor,
[41:53] >> yes.
[41:53] >> All right. Motion approved. Thank you.
[41:58] » All right. Next up, we have the staff
[42:00] leazison report.
[42:02] >> Right. A couple things I wanted to
[42:04] share. Darcy, feel free to jump in if I
[42:07] miss any here.
[42:09] Um we had a really successful summer um
[42:12] across the board. Our recreation
[42:13] programs, aquatics, child care um had a
[42:16] very successful summer. So I just want
[42:18] to um celebrate uh the team that helped
[42:21] make that happen. Um it was a very busy
[42:23] summer. We had um hundreds of kids in
[42:26] our child care programs. This place
[42:28] smelled like incredible food all summer
[42:30] long because of the cooking camp. Uh and
[42:33] I know everyone had a really fun time.
[42:35] So, just a thank you to all of our staff
[42:37] on our team. Um, I already mentioned the
[42:40] supervisor uh change at Borro and the
[42:43] recruitment that's coming for program
[42:44] coordinator. I'll keep everyone posted
[42:46] about that. We are still in the midst of
[42:48] recruiting for our childare team. So, if
[42:51] you know of anyone that's looking for um
[42:53] employment as a childare instructor or
[42:56] an aid, whether it's, you know, a temp
[42:58] seasonal position or full-time, we still
[43:00] have some positions available. Um, we
[43:03] just added, uh, I think we've
[43:05] recommended six new permanent positions
[43:07] in child care. Um, so we're excited that
[43:10] we're bringing some new people on board
[43:11] for the start of the school year. Um,
[43:14] our fall winter registration just opened
[43:17] August 18th. So, lots of programs in the
[43:19] activity guide. I think we had a really
[43:21] successful start to registration this
[43:24] year. I think Darcy shared that we're a
[43:26] little ahead of where we were last year
[43:28] at this point in time.
[43:30] Yes, I think things are looking good,
[43:31] but still have plenty of programs to
[43:33] sign up for.
[43:34] Um, movies in the park series starting
[43:37] August 28th, the first movie is at
[43:40] Victor Jones Park. Um, September 11th at
[43:43] Sun Valley, September 25th at Ter Linda,
[43:45] and then October 9th at the Boro
[43:47] Community Center. We're going to do a
[43:48] Halloween costume swap at Borro as part
[43:51] of that that move kind of separate but
[43:54] at the same day. uh American Red Cross
[43:56] blood drive um here on September 16th at
[43:59] the community center. I know that um
[44:01] nationally there's been a need for
[44:03] blood. I've seen that um they're really
[44:05] trying to do the best they can to
[44:07] promote people to to donate. So I wanted
[44:09] to highlight that
[44:11] >> we just partnered with my talent as
[44:13] well. They've got a mobile blood unit.
[44:16] Um so it's very easy. They can just park
[44:18] in the parking lot too. So
[44:22] >> um we just partnered with uh they're
[44:24] called Mixtop. It's the Marine County
[44:25] Storm Water Prevention Program. Um
[44:28] they're doing a campaign campaign in the
[44:30] canal community where they have these
[44:32] really cool like cartoon animals that
[44:34] are pulling trash out of you know the
[44:37] storm drains and out of trash
[44:39] recepticles. There's um a big kind of
[44:43] vinyl mural on the back of the community
[44:45] center now and then you'll see those all
[44:47] up and down Canal Street. So, it's a new
[44:49] uh it's outreach campaign to try to
[44:51] encourage people to really be mindful of
[44:53] where they're putting their wear. So,
[44:54] that just got installed on Monday, which
[44:56] is cool. Um Fallkerk Artist Collective
[44:59] Final Call for Artists September 27th.
[45:01] So, there's a a call for arts right now
[45:04] at Fall Kirk for some jury shows as well
[45:07] as for the 2027 calendar year. So, if
[45:10] you know of any artists that are
[45:11] interested in exhibiting their artwork,
[45:13] there's opportunity there. citywide. We
[45:16] just celebrated the completion of um the
[45:18] public art project, the installation of
[45:20] five pieces. I'm not sure if you've been
[45:22] by city hall recently, but there's a big chrome shiny statue there.
[45:28] >> That was the last one to get installed.
[45:30] And on Monday, right before city
[45:32] council, um local edition creative, the
[45:35] arts um project coordinator that helped
[45:37] make that happen were there and some um
[45:39] of the local art leaders and just a
[45:42] little celebration, a ribbon cutting
[45:43] there. Um, so that was really great. Uh,
[45:46] there the utility box paint painting
[45:48] project that Sandfell Chamber of
[45:50] Commerce um the business improvement
[45:52] district um helped make that happen.
[45:54] That just got approved by council on
[45:56] Monday as well. So you're going to start
[45:58] to see I think five new utility boxes
[46:00] are going to get painted this month. So
[46:03] still a lot of u exciting things
[46:05] happening in the public art world. I
[46:07] think the California Art Council was
[46:08] here on Friday as well. Some
[46:10] representatives. They're the the group
[46:12] that gave the the large grant to San
[46:15] Rafale. It was a $700,000 grant that
[46:17] really helped bring a lot of this to
[46:18] life. So, some reps from the CAC were um
[46:21] touring a lot of the arts organizations
[46:24] on Friday afternoon and evening as part
[46:26] of the second Friday. So, um yeah, lots
[46:30] going on in town. Uh school has begun.
[46:33] Traffic is back out there. Everyone is back in town. And yeah, we're just
[46:38] thanks to the team for everything that
[46:39] you're doing. Did I miss anything? Any
[46:41] other programs that you want to
[46:42] highlight?
[46:44] >> Movie in the park, Ratatouille on
[46:45] Friday. We're making chef hats. So,
[46:52] » um I'd add I would add too, I think, you
[46:54] know, the the measure P project, the
[46:56] community center library. Um we're in
[46:58] the process right now of reviewing um
[47:01] progressive design build teams. We
[47:03] received application requests for
[47:05] proposal applications from them to take
[47:08] that project on. And so city staff have
[47:10] been interviewing them. We have the
[47:12] metrop subcommittee on August 31st. So
[47:15] that's when we're going to be bringing
[47:16] some recommendations to that
[47:18] subcommittee about the team that'll help
[47:20] rebuild this facility. So really
[47:22] excited. I mean that's a big project
[47:24] generational build and uh really I think
[47:26] we're headed in the right direction.
[47:27] We've we've really been talking to some
[47:30] great teams. So excited about that. But
[47:32] all day there were city staff and teams
[47:34] in this room talking about that project.
[47:40] Okay.
[47:42] >> Any questions?
[47:45] >> What's that? 31st movie.
[47:48] >> Oh,
[47:48] >> I I take a look at the time. It is
[47:51] during the day. I can pull that up right
[47:53] now.
[47:56] [laughter]
[47:58] » Just a second.
[48:09] See,
[48:19] it's at 10 a.m. August 31st at 10 a.m.,
[48:33] » thank you. [clears throat] Any other
[48:34] questions?
[48:35] >> No motion.
[48:35] >> Great.
[48:36] >> Uh
[48:38] any public comment? Yeah, we'll close
[48:41] public comment then. And uh next agenda
[48:45] item, commissioner reports. We have
[48:47] anyone have anything to report?
[48:49] >> Uh I've been attending pickleweed. Um I
[48:53] think the improvements would be
[48:54] welcomed. uh meetings do get long and I think more importantly the
[48:59] two-month lag between these like giant
[49:01] enormous presentations that do have
[49:03] paper
[49:04] um
[49:05] >> that's incredible.
[49:06] >> Yeah, like it like a lot of paper. Um
[49:09] and but then you forget it all and not
[49:12] all but you know some of the finer
[49:13] details. Um and the other piece of it is
[49:16] sort of the the
[49:19] holisticness of the co-sponsorship. So
[49:22] you're mentioning maybe a summary or you
[49:24] know this is how much
[49:26] it's hard to make a decision I think for
[49:28] some of the members myself included
[49:30] although I'm not a voting member but um
[49:33] you know when they say we want full
[49:34] sponsorship you're like how much do we
[49:36] have left again but what is the next
[49:37] person asking for and I think um there
[49:40] could definitely be um process
[49:43] improvements that would be really
[49:44] beneficial not just like good to have
[49:48] like really helpful um and I think
[49:50] Christina will do a great about getting
[49:52] a youth person on there. I feel like she
[49:53] can make that happen.
[49:55] Um, but anyway, yeah, lots of great
[49:57] programs that we reviewed over the last
[49:59] couple meetings. Um, I believe they
[50:01] voted No, we voted in June, didn't we?
[50:04] In August, they did.
[50:06] >> They did as well.
[50:07] >> Okay.
[50:08] Um, uh, great program. Yeah, that's what
[50:12] I thought. Somebody else came in. Um,
[50:14] the programs down there are so great.
[50:17] Like the when the applications come in,
[50:19] it feels like, oh my god, live.
[50:21] Wonderful inspirational.
[50:22] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[50:25] >> Good part.
[50:27] >> What was What was Christina? Tar Linda,
[50:29] but really excited for her
[50:32] stepping up.
[50:34] >> Yeah.
[50:36] >> Uh any public comment?
[50:39] We'll close public comment. Uh and last
[50:42] up
[50:45] >> at 7:01.