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We'll start in about one minute. We'll start in about one minute.

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Welcome to our joint city council planning commission workshop this evening, Madam Clerk.

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roll call, Commissioner Marks, Commissioner Kuznick, Commissioner Frank, Commissioner Wallis,

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Chair Albert, and Council members of our here, Council member alone, Council member Hudson,

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here and Mayor Clarkson here item two pledge of allegiance we could all stand like to invite up Jim Hansen Ford lead us in the pledge Jim

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You Jim you should be noted that Jim was on the very first city center

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Project workshop group many many many years ago, and he's also retired superintendant of schools. We appreciate all your service to our students Jim

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Thank you

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Item three public comment

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Public comment, if you need to talk about public comment, you can do it now before the workshop begins or you can do it after the presentation because some folks may have to leave and want to share the thoughts before the workshop is done or before the presentation is done.

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We ask you to speak for three minutes or less and that you fill out a card and give it to the clerk, do we have anybody who wants to speak before?

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4 workshop 4.1 Joint City Council and Planning Commission study session introduction of the City Center Mixed Use Master Plan DP 19-300-002 and AR 19-200-056 file July 18, 2019.

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Planting Manager Lauren Barr will introduce the item and the presenters.

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Good evening.

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I'll be brief.

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In 2007, the City approved the City Center project, a series of entitlements for the area of communal remuneration.

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As outlined in the staff report, the project evolved and changed over time, culminating in the retail plaza area that you see today.

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you see today, it was opened last November.

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Since that time, things have changed in terms of retail and

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the needs for the community, also housing policy has changed.

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And so what we have here tonight is sunset development revisiting what's

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remaining of their entitlements as well as looking at housing policy in terms of

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putting units in the core of the city.

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And so, we have sunset here to share their vision for the future, and with that I'll just turn it over to them and let them do their presentation.

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So, I introduce the sunset design team.

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Thank you.

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I'll go ahead.

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Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, planning commission and city staff.

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My name is Alex Mayor and junior, I'm the president of Sunset Development Company.

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And on behalf of everyone at Sunset and our project team, I'd like to thank you for this opportunity to present our long-term vision for Bishop Ranch.

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This is a huge moment for us, and there's a lot to say, so I'm going to read it in order to respect your time and to get all that I wanted to convey out.

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Nearly 40 years ago my father and my grandfather worked with local planning organizations and the community to develop

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The plan for what was Bishop Branch business park.

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That framework was largely followed over the subsequent 25 years and created much of what you see today in Bishop Branch.

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Tonight we are here to present a vision for the further evolution of Bishop Branch over the next 25 years.

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That was developed entirely within the guidelines that the city laid out with its own general plan and zoning ordinances.

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To say we're excited about this plan is an understatement across three generations

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sunset has taken pride in our role as a committed community partner.

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From the very beginning, our vision has been to create a remarkable place in the heart

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of San Ramon.

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A place offering a thoughtful blend of great workplaces, parks and trails, hotels, stores and restaurants.

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Today, we now know that in order for Bishop Branch to become a vibrant and beloved place

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for all of San Ramon, it must also be a home that is loved by its own residents who seek

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the unique qualities of life and value that can be found in a more vibrant, transit-oriented

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and walkable environment that is close to jobs.

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This new mixed-use neighborhood will offer that new residential option in Santa

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Mone. But it will also offer the broader community a walkable, sustainable

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core, with a broad range of open space and amenities that will make time spent in

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Bishop Ranch cherished by all community members. Our goal with this plan is to do

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something that is compatible with what Santa Mone has envisioned for itself.

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With a plan that conforms with San Ramon's zoning and fills its state-mandated housing requirements,

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we seek to eliminate opportunities for the use of density bonuses and height limit waivers,

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which would create projects that will be forever out of place in San Ramon.

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Sunset wants to create something that supports the city's desire for smart growth, discourages sprawl,

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And most importantly, protects the hillside open spaces.

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We also want to phase this plan over two and a half decades, ensuring the change happens slowly.

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With units remaining owned by Sunset and our long-term oriented partners at Metropolitan Life,

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closely and actively managed in the some typical Sunset style.

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Bishop Ranch is nationally known for our existing office developments where

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modern workplaces, served by a range of on-site amenities and services.

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Teen acquisitions with our partners Metropolitan Life, which we now call 2600, was a massive

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shift for sunset and for the Bishop Ranch planning area.

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We transformed the 100 acres from a closed corporate campus into a central part of Bishop

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branch introducing a key piece of the walking district, which we view as critically important

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to the vitality of our city's core.

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2600 encourages local employees and visitors to walk from one destination to another, reducing

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vehicular trips with its accessible pedestrian-friendly landscapes, including pathways, trails,

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and parks.

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With this new plan, we utilize, protect, and enhance this existing landscape framework.

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All desirability with a central core that is a great place to walk, live, work, shop,

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dine, and visit.

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This framework is the central component of our plan.

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The opening of City Center Bishop Branch added a long plan element of entertainment,

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We want to offer something to all San Ramon residents, not just those that live or work in our buildings.

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To do this, we're converting asphalt parking lots and difficult to access open spaces.

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into walkable tree line stoop streets, publicly accessible parks and trails including our lake parks,

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person performing arts amphitheater, community centers including a beautiful lakeside building on the

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Annabelle Lake, and enhancements to the Iron Horse Trail. Sunset's long-term vision for

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Center Mone takes into account the unique character and integrity of the existing community.

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The plan was designed to use connectivity as its guiding planning principle to ensure

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new neighborhoods blend seamlessly while attracting a thriving business community.

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Many of the Bay Area's leading companies have chosen to establish operations outside

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of California rather than growing employment bases in the East Bay.

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For these companies, solving the housing issues that their employees face is a critical piece

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of site selection, and this new offering of entry-level housing in Santa

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Mon will be key to attracting them here.

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Achieving that would be a coup for Bishop Ranch, and also for Santa Mon,

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bringing tremendous value to all homeowners.

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Offering this type of housing intrinsically creates single-family home buyers

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as people in our units will move up to single-family homes.

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LiveWork environment and Santa Mone's core will decide to start a family and buy a home

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in the neighborhoods that surround Bishop Branch, all while keeping their child in the

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same school district.

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Creating this housing ladder would drive the kind of generational civic pride it

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would grow

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up in Santa Mone to also live here as adults and raise families here of their own, just

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as their parents did.

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In addition, local employees and their families will have new housing options near their

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jobs, creating a healthier work-life balance while reducing local traffic and fostering

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family togetherness.

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The plan places affordable housing where it is needed the most, and Santa Modes Emerging

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Mixed Use District, rather than in the city's more mature suburban neighborhoods.

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The project will add new sources of property tax for our cities, schools, and the fire district

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New sales tax and transit occupancy tax and if the project is not revenue neutral or positive, there will be a supplement to make it so.

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For more than 40 years, Sunset's reputation and its feature have been deeply intertwined with the continued success of Santa Mon.

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We are proud of the proposed plan and we believe it reinforces our long term position as a stakeholder and as Santa Mon's largest investor.

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We believe it represents a unique and a community to work closely together in planning the city's future.

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This plan not only reaffirms but builds upon Santa Moan's reputation as a great place to work, visit and call home.

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It reflects the principles of smart growth and will result in a dynamic, live work, transit oriented, pedestrian and bicycle friendly neighborhood that radiates a strong sense of identity.

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The plan on affordable housing units addressing state housing mandates within,

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it has been designed

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to meet the future needs of Santa Mone to enhance the lives of all current and future

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residents and to ensure the long term vitality of Santa Mone's employment center in Bishop

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Branch.

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I'm excited to introduce Rob Elliott, our senior vice president of planning and design

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to present our team's hard work on this.

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I thank you again for your time and for your efforts in making this community great.

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And I look forward to working together to making this plan a reality.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Good evening.

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Good evening all.

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My name is Rob Elliott and I'm responsible for planning and design at Sunset Development

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Company and Mayor Clarkson and Council members and planning commissioner members.

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Thank you very much for the opportunity to come and share our master plan with you.

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We're very excited about it and we're really closely with the city staff and have recently

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submitted our application documents that they're going through and I think some of you

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may have seen those.

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Before I get started, I'd like to just mention that we've sold this to help us prepare

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this plan.

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Tonight we have with us Jerry Enkin, who's Vice President of Sunset Development Company who

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is our able leader in the planning group.

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We have Chris Higland and Mark Kelly from B.A.R., who are architects.

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Bonnie Fisher is our landscape architect.

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She's from a great firm called Roma.

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We have Pat Gibson with us tonight, who is from Gibson Transportation Planning.

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I'm sure you can imagine what he's been doing for us, helping us with the circulation and the design of the community.

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We have Jacob Wynn with us.

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So, we have put together the presentation that I'd like to make for you is, one is establish in the context of the master plan. The second is talking about the framework components that help organize the master plan and connect it to the broader community and Bishop Ranch. And then the third is, I'd like to take you to the board.

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through some of the neighborhood details of the plan itself.

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So those are basically the three components.

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As Alex mentioned, we've worked, since I developed this work for 40 years to make Bishop Ranch

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a world-class workplace community.

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We have 30,000 people who work there on a daily basis for local firms and for firms that

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are recognized internationally as well.

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City Center is now open and it's well on its way to be coming to community meeting place.

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that we all hoped it would be.

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We have one of the best transit systems serving Bishop Ranch that I know of, and we have

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a remarkable mature landscape and network of sidewalks and trails that encourage people

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to walk on a daily basis.

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Existing framework of streets and trails along with the proximity of the areas of the relationship

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to the office and retail makes Bishop Ranch a really ideal location for compact infill

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residential neighborhoods that we're proposing tonight.

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And in our view, it's a natural evolution of Bishop Ranch to bring residential neighborhoods

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here to this already thriving community.

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And put it in the context of the city.

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The city center mixed use district is, let's see if this will work.

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The city center mixed use district is very, which is part of the general plan.

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In the area that we'll be talking about tonight are represented by the yellow squares.

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You can see that the proposed master plan and the Bishop Branch of Planning area are in the center of Santa Ramones.

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The earlier in the year, as you know, the city re-zoned of BR 2600 and provided it with a mixed use designation.

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That designation allows housing to be built and any of the five parcels that make up the city center mixed use district.

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It was a visionary moved by the city as it focuses the additional hills away from existing

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neighborhoods and locates them within walking distance office and retail uses as I mentioned.

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In addition, it places housing where it is best served by the robust transit system that

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exists today at Bishop Ranch with the intention of reducing overall vehicle trips.

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The master plan that will show you tonight implements, begins to implement the objectives of the 2035 general plan for the city.

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It meets all of the general plan and zoning requirements we're not asking for any exceptions as part of the opportunities for the city.

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It protects existing neighborhoods and open space, and it helps the city meet its required housing goal by providing much needed workforce housing adjacent to the city's primary employment.

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But I think above and beyond all that, it makes significant contributions to the creation and continuation of the vibrant mixed use district that city center started in the hardest.

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Before we started working in detail on the master plan for the project, we're all key objectives to guide our planning work.

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And while I won't read all of them tonight, you can see them in the book you're looking at.

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I want to hit a few key ones that are important to us in expanding the existing parkway system

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that will be started at BR-2600.

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And that parkway system will help protect the existing mature landscape and allow us

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to expand trail connectivity.

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In addition, in taking a close look at the existing lakes, we thought that there are an incredible

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recreational opportunity was inherent in those legs and our plan seeks to take advantage

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of those.

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We also took a look at the best examples of infill housing around to see what we could

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learn from those.

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And we noticed that residential streets and the pedestrian scale that they're designed

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out in the way that they organize the neighborhoods and the way they're activated at the ground level

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is really important to our plan.

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And we also think architectural variety is important, and we plan to employ that as well.

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We also think that there's a big opportunity to reimagine that these are provided to

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not only the new residents, but also the existing office.

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And finally, we thought it was very important that the hotel and retail uses the center to

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to sort of build on the vitality and energy that's already been created there.

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As far as the overall master plan area is concerned, it's made up of three parcels,

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BR-3A, which is framed by the Iron Horse Trail,

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Ballinger and Camino Ramone, and BR-1A, BR-3A and BR-1A,

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and BR-1A is framed by Ballinger and the entrance to BR-1 and the Iron Horse Trail as well.

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Well, if we start looking at the neighborhoods, there's three parcels, but five, the three

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neighborhoods that are proposed for BR-2600 occur in the existing service parking lots

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that you can see here.

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And building in those parking lots provides us really with an interesting opportunity

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because there's already an incredible infrastructure that's built there that you'll see we've built

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into our plans, listing the two landscapes setting that frames each one of these parking

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lots in the berm that's already there.

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The three, as I said, the three residential neighborhoods will replace existing surface

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parking.

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There's retail and creative office that we're proposing as part of this neighborhood, and

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I'll get into a little bit more detail in each neighborhood in a second.

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But this dashed line here represents retail and creative office uses that will be part

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of the extension of the avenue that extends across Bishop Drive.

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And as I mentioned, we're proposing a new transit center.

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One of those occurs along Executive Parkway, and I'll talk a little bit more in detail about that in a minute.

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And then in each of the three neighborhoods, there's a new parking garage.

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it's being created to free up the parking for the office uses, most adjacent to the office buildings.

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And to give you some sense of what that looks like, if you look at the existing BR-20.

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To be recently built, they'll be very similar to those and have a similar relationship to the office space.

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BR-3A, as I mentioned, is a vacant parcel?

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In terms of area, the primary land use is residential.

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However, we're proposing 169 room hotel on the corner and

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70,000 square feet of retail that will be in the base of the residential buildings.

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And again, the idea is to locate that in close proximity within walking distance to city center to again,

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sort of build on the energy that city center has and let that reach out and influence the what's happening in the neighborhoods.

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Again, BR1A is a vacant parcel and its predominant land use that we're proposing is residential.

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Although it has one of the largest neighborhood parks that I'll be talking about in a minute, and it also has one of the three transit centers

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that we're proposing to be built along the extension of Camino Ramone at the BR-1

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entry drive.

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So that's essentially the summary of the

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Before I get into the detail of each the neighborhoods which I'd like to do is to show you the specific

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I want to step back for a second and talk about the overall framework, the landscape in open space framework that ties all these neighborhoods together, not only does it tie them together, but it also connects this district as well as the rest of Bishop Branch.

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I think one of the key components that we figured out really early on was this idea of extending our parkway system.

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And if you've been to BR-2600 and this sketch that you see here is the corner of Camino Ramon and Bishop Drive and you just catch the corner of City Center with Field War Brewery in this location.

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So this is a view of what the residential neighborhoods would look like in that southeast corner.

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We realized it was a huge opportunity to provide a 60-foot wide parkway that not only completes itself around BR-2600 but also continues out and connects to the new neighborhoods at BR-3 and BR-1A.

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And the idea is that where existing mature landscape exists, that 60-foot zone will allow us to protect the existing material.

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It also provides an opportunity to continue to implement an off-street bicycle trail as well.

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So that's kind of a key connectivity piece of the

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next layer as I mentioned are the

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neighborhood streets.

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And as far as the way a person experiences the neighborhoods, these streets are really critical.

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And I think one of the early things we talked about early on was how could we create what

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we call it stoop street and it seems like a small detail,

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but how the building meets the public sidewalk

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and the uses that occur there is really important

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and there's some bad examples of housing around

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that have sort of one garage entry

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and one entry to the building

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and the rest of it is pretty mean.

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And so we intended early on to create residential entries

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that could be entered directly off the sidewalk

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and associated with those entries

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as we've set aside a zone that will either have garden areas that will really help make a great transition between the building and the public sidewalk.

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The other rule that the neighborhood streets play following the pattern as I mentioned that exists in the service parking lots and provides access to the office buildings is that these streets begin to break down each of the neighborhoods in pedestrian scale blocks,

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which is essential to the idea of creating walkability.

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And the other thing that they connect

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is that they connect ultimately neighborhood parks

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that are being proposed to the broader parkway system

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that surrounds the project.

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So the idea is that this is sort of an unbroken network

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of open space, landscape, and pedestrian access.

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I want to mention one neighborhood street in particular

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that's unique, and that is because of its relationship in the southeast neighborhood of

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BR-2600. This particular street where the red arrow is, the extension of the, you may

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have all wondered about the organization of the city center and the avenue that is the

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main kind of north-south connectivity that connects to Alexander Square. And ironically

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So, technically that pedestrian, 2600 drove the-

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Now the avenue is driving the creation of what proposing is a pedestrian only promenade that would extend from a city center across, across Bishop Drive to the central part of the only neighborhoods that has a park that's central to the neighborhood, as you can see the other parks are on the edges.

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This is imagined to be an urban park and the promenade, the idea is it will be activated

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by food and retail uses that are directly across from city center if you can imagine another

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one across the street on either side that would provide the entry to the promenade.

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And then the building that you see on the left here, we're calling it a creative office

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space.

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And the idea here is that that building is laminated on the face of the existing garage to help activate both sides of the promenade and the street and the ground floor, as I mentioned, there's retail uses and there's likely to be resident serving uses.

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And then the idea behind calling that is we're investing across laminated timber structural construction and the cool thing about that is it's very sustainable, but it's also the kind of construction we can leave the structure open.

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And it creates sort of modern high ceiling loft space inside with exposed wood columns and beams and ceiling.

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So it's a very unique way to build things in space as well.

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The idea is that we've set up the creative office space to allow the base of it to be converted.

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If there's additional demand for retail, up that promenade, we can convert some of that lower space into retail uses.

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But we didn't want to get too aggressive about the center gets itself stabilized and up and running.

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The second part of the block, which is just past the park, actually has automobile traffic

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on it to provide access to the neighborhood.

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And it continues the street tree pattern that you see in the sketch.

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In front of you, it also continues the sidewalk and pedestrian activity on the side.

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and the central space instead of being pedestrian only will have a similar surface to the pedestrian space will be allowed but it will allow auto traffic as well.

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We needed that to provide access to the residential uses and also provide for fire and emergency access as well.

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As you know that the two lakes on the east and west sides of BR 2600 are probably the largest and most unique and iconic spaces within Bishop Ranch.

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And as since the development took over ownership we've paid a lot of attention in the

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We try to open up the space and allow for public access for walking and enjoyment of the two lakes. And tonight, we're renaming the lake that is on the east side, Lake Cecilia, and on the lake, the larger lake on the west side, we're calling Annabelle Lake. So as I refer to those, we thought it was a little more romantic than the lake. So we're trying to build into these places as well. Again, when we took ownership, we made every effort to provide public

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but the master plan tonight proposes another level of access and

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a whole nother labor amenities that we think really takes this facility and

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takes its public value and amenity to a whole nother level.

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There's three pieces of the master plan of Annabelle Lake.

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In the southern end to build a residential scale building that has community meeting rooms

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and gathering spaces, it will have its own on-site parking that's accessed off a bishop

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drive.

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And the idea is to build several additional new docs, one would provide for outdoor dining

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adjacent or meetings adjacent to the building, and then the second doc facility would provide

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to provide for public access for voting and other recreational opportunities related to the lake.

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One of the things I want to point out is that as we started to introduce residential

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the office can have made a conscious decision to give this a residential quality and

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use materials in the building design that would have a residential scale and

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feeling to begin to break down the more institutional nature that you feel with the 2600 buildings.

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So the idea here is begin to introduce residential scale building to begin to bring the scale down to a more pedestrian level.

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The one thing that's great about Annabelle Lake is that it's large enough space that when you're out there it doesn't feel crowded.

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There's also not so large that it feels vast and overwhelming and so we're excited about the idea of adding the community building to this.

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is in the co, on the north end of the lake,

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there's a large landscape area

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with a significant grade change

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that slopes from the road down to the lake.

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And our idea here is

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a unique outdoor performance venue

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studies. It looks like we can accommodate

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around 1500 guests in this amphitheater

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and the landscape terraces would provide the seating

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and then the stage is located at the edge of the lake

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like floating in the lake, and when it's not being used for performances, we can use that as a dock or another opportunity for boat facilities.

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So it has sort of a multi-use nature, if you will.

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So we're excited about that.

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In the background, in the northwest neighborhood, you can see the nature of the buildings that relate to the lake.

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And when the yellow trees are, that's the park that you see there that brings the open space around into

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into the neighborhood itself.

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And finally, we're proposing to move the access now that exists to Roundhouse in the

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lobby of the original lobby of BR 2600 to the north.

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And by moving in enough space where we can provide pedestrian access and park facilities

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and seating that don't exist there closer to the edge of the lake.

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So by pulling it away, we can really take advantage and have pedestrian access and public access completely around the lake.

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And we think that'll be a great amenity not only for the office employees and the residents, but

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also to the public at large because this has limited pedestrian access today.

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One of the things that if you've spent time around Bishop Ranch, you'll notice that all of the office campuses have

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that form their focus in these green spaces, help organize the buildings and provide amenities for the office workers.

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And we felt that that was a really important key to developing the ideas for the neighborhoods.

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So we've located five new neighborhood parks in the heart of each one of the residential neighborhoods.

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And the idea that each park will have its own character.

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it will provide green space around which to organize the buildings.

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And one of the things we focused really early on was a lot of times when you have

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multi-family, even the public open space is not a grade.

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We made a conscious decision to put those parks at grade so that they're visible.

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And that each of the people who lives in any of the five neighborhoods can take advantage of the parks.

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So it's visible, but it's also a functional idea as well.

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And then again, you can see that those parks are linked to the larger parkway system that runs throughout the master plan and that grid of streets basically provides access through the neighborhoods to the parks and from the neighborhoods and parks out to the larger parkway system.

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I forgot to mention one thing.

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This sketch is of the park in the southeast neighborhood and as I mentioned, this has a little

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bit more urban quality in that the end of the pedestrian promenade ends here and the

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street that has traffic is here as well.

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So this becomes more sort of an urban experience that's framed by the residential buildings on

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one side and then the creative office and retail uses on the other side.

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finally, are the residential courtyards themselves?

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And the idea is that on the second level above the building provides parking for the residents within it,

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we'll have sort of resort quality over the people who live there,

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fire pits, and that sort of thing.

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So the primary residential amenities will be provided for the residents in these courtyards.

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So now what I'd like to do is just quickly take you through and point out some of the,

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again, the features of each of the neighborhoods.

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As I said, each of the neighborhoods in 2600 replaces a surface parking lot.

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You can see the arrows that are here.

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access the axes of the avenue and connection through the garage between this neighborhood

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and the lake.

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And so those axes form the streets and the pedestrian connections, sort of building

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on what's already out there today.

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So this particular neighborhood has an extension of the promenade.

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This is the auto-oriented street.

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This is a street and pedestrian connection that runs through.

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There's two residential buildings and then the focal point is the public park.

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And again, around the outside edge along Camino Ramon and Bishop is this 60-foot landscape

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parkway with the existing mature trees and the new off-street bicycle trail of which

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you can see a part that was started across some city center that exists out there today.

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The northeast neighborhood is established by the axes that comes off of the avenue here

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and the axes that comes off of the lobby here.

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In this case, there's three residential buildings, and the central park here has a direct relationship to Lake Cecilia.

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And there's a smaller parking garage that we're proposing to build here that would provide short-term parking for people who are coming to use the facilities that are provided in the roundhouse today.

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So there's direct parking access from the motor court to that garage.

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In addition, it's likely that that garage may have short-term guest parking for the adjacent office building as well.

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Hood is our largest neighborhood, and again, the existing axes that are formed by the pedestrian connections to the lobbies begin to form the grid street system.

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There's a secondary access in this neighborhood that's related to connecting to the park that overlooks the lake.

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And as I was mentioning, this park is designed to extend the sense of the open space around the corner of the building into this overall neighborhood.

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And again, here, there's a park, 60 foot parkway along Executive Parkway, and also along Bishop Drive as well.

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Each neighborhood has a section of that related to the edge.

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The BR-3 neighborhood, as I mentioned, is primarily residential, and this is the sketch on the top as a view, as if you're driving down Bollinger.

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You can see the future pedestrian bridge and the hills in the background.

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This would look like in BR-3A, and this is a sketch of what the resident on the south in BR-1A.

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As I mentioned, this neighborhood is designed with a hotel, 169 room hotel, in 70,000 square feet of retail, of which the hotel and the retail uses there were already previously entitled on this parcel.

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Neighborhood, again, as I mentioned, residential buildings surrounding our largest community park, and then at the end of the community park is the transit center.

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and these are some images that you're going to be like and I'm going to get more detail.

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So in summary, when you step back and look at the neighborhoods, all five neighborhoods

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accommodate up to 4,500 housing units between five stories and a project.

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Stepping back for a minute, I want to talk a little bit about the circulation system that

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It serves to mention that the idea of neighborhoods was a system.

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So you'll, if you take a close look at our pedestrian circulation plan, it's a very

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time to access every part of the neighborhood, connect out to the parkway system, and ultimately

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connect out to the broader community.

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One of the key components of the parkway system and the pedestrian and bike circulation system

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are these trail and executive drive here and at Bishop Drive here.

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And the asterisks show two areas that we're planning on providing improvements that would

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be designed to serve pedestrians, either coming to the Iron Horse Trail or using the Iron

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Horse Trail.

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So the idea is to have facilities there that would serve both bikers and pedestrians as an

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additional amenity that sort of enhances that intersection between the mixed use system

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in the artworks trail as well.

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As you know, the bike's Bishop Ranch has been super successful and is a really kind

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of a key hallmark and we really believe in the idea of bicycle traffic and its role

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that it can play in serving the broader community and actually connect to the mixed use district

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and the new master plan area.

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As I mentioned, we've used as a reference the city's greater components of that into

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the proposed green

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areas show where there's an off-street bicycle trail, and then the

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way the neighborhood streets, the scale is oriented toward to accommodating bicycle traffic as

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well.

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The vehicular circulation and parking, the vehicular circulation connects seamlessly

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to the existing system, and it adds no new intersections along a bollinger.

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It adds two new intersections along commuter Ramon and three new intersections along executive.

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I mentioned that the generic relates to what exists in the office building in the

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the surface parking lot uses and what we've done is basically convert what are now driveways

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into the stoop streets that I was mentioning to you before.

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We've got three new garage, accommodate the office parking and neighborhoods.

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Each of the new buildings that will be built will essentially park itself for its residents and provide its own parking.

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And finally, I mentioned that we found a lot about how to elevate and encourage the use of

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transportation ways.

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And we worked closely with the transportation agencies to refine and

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optimize the routes that provide access not only to the office uses but to the new residential

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uses. And one of the things we're really excited about is, rather than having a single transit

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center are ideas to build three new transit centers and the idea is that those would be located

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in as part of the office and residential neighborhoods so that you can walk to any one of these

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transit centers. The idea is to create a really interesting iconic building. All three of them

423
00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:44,480
would have a similar architecture in that building. The idea is to gather all of the transit

424
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,340
used related uses into one location, which would include the county connection buses,

425
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:59,980
the local shuttles, car share, opportunities, bicycle sharing, and bicycle park long-term bikes.

426
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,020
Local parking and scooter, anything related to transit uses? We want to gather in this space and through the building and the design of indoor and outdoor shaded spaces, we really want to make using transit in a really meaningful way. Not only it would be symbolic of the commitment to transit, but also create a really amazing experience that we would encourage people to use the range of transit systems that we have.

427
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:39,780
We also plan to, as we build the homes, is to provide free bus passes to anyone in the

428
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:45,260
new master plan area so that they could take a full advantage of the use of the buses

429
00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:46,660
and shuttle systems.

430
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:54,600
I want to take a minute, even though we're working in a master plan, what the physical place

431
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,860
may look like.

432
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:01,520
And so one of the things that makes Bishop Ranch unique is that there was as much attention

433
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:08,840
paid to the design of a landscape and the architecture as sort of a symbiotic hole where

434
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:14,620
they mutually support and work together to create this sort of overall unique character

435
00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:22,640
that Bishop Ranch has and our idea is to continue that relationship between the landscape

436
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,180
and architecture to sort of build on that idea

437
00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:29,080
in that the architecture and the landscape work

438
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,420
seamlessly to create a really strong sense of place.

439
00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:36,650
Our intention is to create a different architectural

440
00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:42,720
to provide visual interest.

441
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,080
On the other hand, we plan to have a series of principles

442
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,980
that will also make them work really well together

443
00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:51,980
in that we plan to use simple, elegant building,

444
00:46:51,980 --> 00:47:00,210
massing and proportions on the buildings so they have a sophisticated facade.

445
00:47:01,010 --> 00:47:06,330
I mentioned spending time figuring out how the building meets the ground along the sidewalks.

446
00:47:06,350 --> 00:47:07,170
That's really important.

447
00:47:07,690 --> 00:47:12,830
And I think the key thing we plan to avoid trendy contemporary architecture that doesn't

448
00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:13,950
stand the test of time.

449
00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:16,650
And you can see a lot about examples of that around.

450
00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:21,730
And I think one of the things that Bishop Ranch has done is build contemporary office buildings

451
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:27,030
that have really matured well and look good today as good as when they were built.

452
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:38,090
As far as the landscape, as I mentioned, one of the key components of the plan is to preserve the existing mature trees and shrubs that are there and enhance that with new landscape.

453
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:51,030
Our idea is to as low water requirement plants and that thrive as we know we have the opportunity to use reclaimed water.

454
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:59,990
but not all plants do well in the reclaimed water system, so we plan to really concentrate and make sure that whatever we plant thrives well with the use of reclaimed water.

455
00:48:00,910 --> 00:48:06,050
We plan to favor the use of native trees and shrub species where that is meaningful.

456
00:48:06,310 --> 00:48:11,030
We plan to mix evergreen and deciduous canopy trees together to create shade.

457
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:17,710
and then the turf we plan to really limit the use of turf and you only use it in parks

458
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:24,090
use rather than and then sort of as a kind of a key feature

459
00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:30,890
And if you want to have if you want to get a sense of what we think the landscape is going to look like if you look at the

460
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:35,390
renovation that's occurred over time at BR 2600 and the new planting at city center

461
00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:41,470
That will give you some a good sense of of what we imagine the character of the neighborhoods to be like

462
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:51,770
I want to talk a little bit about phasing, and we plan the build out of the master plan

463
00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:59,510
to take at least 25 years to think about is if the master plan has phased over 25 years,

464
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,750
it's really important as we build each neighborhood that it has all the components to make it feel

465
00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:10,400
have a strong, as you build residents,

466
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:17,980
you need to include part of the pieces that give each

467
00:49:17,980 --> 00:49:23,580
neighborhood its own identity so you feel like you have a sense of place and a place to call home and also

468
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,640
one of those neighborhoods contributes to the sense of

469
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:37,100
a lot about how to phase that. As I mentioned we think the first phase is likely to be the hotel

470
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:39,060
which is in the BR

471
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:47,360
the first phase of residential construction would likely occur in the BR 2600 southeast neighborhood

472
00:49:47,980 --> 00:49:56,780
And the idea there is we would build the first residential building, the park, the promenade and street that are continue.

473
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,860
And then the street that provides access off Camino Ramon.

474
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:17,960
It's like, and we would also build the retail uses that would flank the entry near Bishop Drive and also face the transition between that garage and the adjacent residential uses.

475
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:28,120
We believe that proposed city mixed use master plan builds on the success of city center.

476
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:37,400
It takes advantage of Bishop Ranch's existing landscape and circulation infrastructure to create desirable compact infill residential

477
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,370
neighborhood Bishop Ranch in the city of San Ramón.

478
00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:45,410
Our master plan hinges on creating walkable neighborhoods.

479
00:50:51,390 --> 00:50:56,670
We've created a really smooth phase over 25 years.

480
00:50:57,330 --> 00:51:03,230
Our next step is to host a community open house at BR 2600 on the 26th.

481
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:10,070
And the master plan with the community notices for that event will be sent out shortly.

482
00:51:10,990 --> 00:51:12,450
I thank you all for your time.

483
00:51:12,990 --> 00:51:17,630
and we appreciate the opportunity to present the master plan to you, and we're available for questions.

484
00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:20,030
Yeah, thank you.

485
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:24,010
With the motion, the council will be going to public comment.

486
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:26,730
Good.

487
00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:27,210
All right.

488
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:28,010
Thank you, sir.

489
00:51:29,570 --> 00:51:29,830
Madam Clerk,

490
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:35,270
again, just to reinforce, try to keep your comments.

491
00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:38,790
I have no requests.

492
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:43,460
Step up, it's a little hard.

493
00:51:43,580 --> 00:51:43,920
I have to work.

494
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:44,360
That's fine.

495
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:49,640
All right.

496
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,520
We will.

497
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:54,460
There will be plenty of opportunities to comment it on later, I'm sure.

498
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,360
close a bit, comment.

499
00:51:59,390 --> 00:52:01,970
Gary, look into your planning commission. Any questions you guys have?

500
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,760
Eric, I see you're reaching.

501
00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:11,720
Well, I didn't want you guys to leave the

502
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:17,120
founded by what you said. I just want to I want to make sure I wrote this

503
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:26,120
five hundred and a half to forty five hundred. Being about buildings five to seven

504
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,740
stories. Okay.

505
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,920
This is probably a little bit outside the scope of the city center master plan, but

506
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:39,000
I can't help but wondering when you're putting all the housing in there. What do you think the long

507
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:50,020
range view for the office park is? Well, we believe that this enhances the office. I'm sorry. I think it's

508
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:53,760
on. Can you hear me now? Sorry. First of all, I'm going to introduce myself. I'm Jerry Engins,

509
00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:01,140
senior vice president development for sunset development and we see the

510
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:05,400
housing as an a very important function for the ongoing demand for office

511
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,260
space as Alexander said in his opening statement there's a lot of tech

512
00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:12,460
companies a lot of companies that would like to locate here but housing is a big

513
00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:15,860
problem for them for their employees for their startup and this really

514
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:22,680
provides that opportunity for for that here at Bishop Ranch. I'm sure you've

515
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,680
been following what Google was trying to plan around

516
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,860
Deerodon station in San Jose, and they're trying to do

517
00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:32,500
the same thing on a much more mad talking about.

518
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,380
And having people close to business part

519
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:38,900
seems to me to be the only rational way

520
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:42,520
to keep your part really functional, because people can only

521
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,920
drive a small branch on 580s.

522
00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:51,080
Interesting concept, I'm sure that we'll

523
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,880
We'll be looking forward to having you in front of us at some other day.

524
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:02,880
And Dave.

525
00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:10,130
I'm sorry, why 25 years?

526
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:13,830
Well, we want to make sure that it's done very smartly.

527
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:19,030
Some of it obviously has to do with market and demand.

528
00:54:19,850 --> 00:54:21,870
And you don't want to over build too fast.

529
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:24,730
You want to make sure you build enough at a pay second be lease.

530
00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:26,510
So you don't have a lot of vacant buildings.

531
00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:31,680
Every time we build a phase, how it reacts, how it works.

532
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,180
Are there any tweaks we need to make?

533
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,740
So we want to do it in a really smart, controlled way.

534
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,040
I thought it might be coinciding with Council Member Hudson's final term in office.

535
00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:58,260
I like the notion of, I suspect that also having different architectural forms, things will evolve.

536
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,740
Tastes will change over the course of time, so that makes a lot of sense to me.

537
00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:15,760
I grew up actually extension of Olmsted City Planning and soft spot for parkways.

538
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:21,180
I think, you know, there's a lot to, there's a lot to clearly

539
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:26,280
a ton of work has already gone into this.

540
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,400
And, you know, where to come.

541
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:37,620
It's certainly just about getting too far into the weeds.

542
00:55:37,620 --> 00:55:43,240
Does the 4,500 include what was already approved?

543
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,430
It does, yeah.

544
00:55:49,310 --> 00:55:55,470
So there are units already allocated for 187 units.

545
00:55:55,890 --> 00:56:00,890
There are units allocated on VR3 as well that are there.

546
00:56:01,330 --> 00:56:05,590
And so when you look at it, we're adding, I think I did the math.

547
00:56:05,590 --> 00:56:11,150
there was 2,800 units more than what was originally entitled there in that zone, about

548
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,160
4,500 total.

549
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,020
This is a really interesting stuff.

550
00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:31,850
I, the mayor has been talking for years about peeling development off the hillsides, et cetera.

551
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:38,770
This certainly fits with, with that desire that's been expressed by the community as well.

552
00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:47,610
Well, I do the notion of three transit centers is intriguing.

553
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:54,090
I think it's, I don't know if that's typically done, but I think that's a really interesting

554
00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:54,530
concept.

555
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,700
I'll be curious how this also,

556
00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:10,370
and over Bollinger, it seems a little vague in there, but I'm

557
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:11,550
sure it's a lot more to come in that regard.

558
00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:17,000
I'll turn it over to my colleague that I just insulted so far.

559
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,680
No, no, I've been on council.

560
00:57:27,340 --> 00:57:29,380
It's had an entitlement for commercial.

561
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,620
The brain dead and said, I never want to see a house there.

562
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,220
And I think I called somebody up and said, can you put three thousand in there?

563
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:42,460
What does this change for the total allotment of commercial?

564
00:57:44,260 --> 00:57:45,580
Does it remain the same?

565
00:57:45,580 --> 00:57:49,800
No, it actually reduces the amount of commercial by about 800,000 feet.

566
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,540
So there was, there was off medical or sorry office buildings on originally entitled on B.R.

567
00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:58,300
for transition.

568
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,800
This is going to sound crazy, I don't care if you build it, but don't lose the entitlement.

569
00:58:04,580 --> 00:58:13,550
Same thing, and this whole thing is really built around this philosophy of jobs, housing, balance, numbers.

570
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:19,650
But, I mean, the 4,500 is fine with me.

571
00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:23,330
The question about height that was brought up are the stories.

572
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:27,510
It's not in the stories that's in the height, and I don't know if the legislation

573
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:31,970
passed because there's so many of them, but I believe there's a 20-

574
00:58:33,730 --> 00:58:44,300
You know, that's the point I'm making that we're not exceeding that, as a city.

575
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,820
Because we're the ones that catch the plane.

576
00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:49,880
I like the idea that you've highlighted priority development area.

577
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:51,260
Please reconsider,

578
00:58:54,590 --> 00:58:57,630
this is actually a favor to us.

579
00:58:57,830 --> 00:59:01,390
I mean, we're going to get in with some huge numbers with the rena numbers.

580
00:59:02,290 --> 00:59:04,050
I like the idea of the transit centers.

581
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:08,250
I keep thinking these little mini transit centers might go back to Washington DC and

582
00:59:08,250 --> 00:59:13,850
the silver line kind of ends wherever that city is before their finish and just drop into the little.

583
00:59:13,850 --> 00:59:25,270
So many you're in, you're out and it's good, 25 years means 20, 45, kind of like Dirty Valley's 20 years, still going.

584
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:29,630
I just want to remind you the projection is 90% electric vehicles.

585
00:59:30,830 --> 00:59:36,350
So somebody wants to go after a grant from the air district to help as much as I can.

586
00:59:36,830 --> 00:59:41,470
I would love to see every one of them put the darn thing in and if they don't use it,

587
00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:46,490
Like the idea of the 70,000 square feet, get your hands around it.

588
00:59:46,570 --> 00:59:50,250
It's club sport, about 70,000 square feet.

589
00:59:51,530 --> 00:59:57,030
Would love to see what you are going to do just within your own complex for the electric field.

590
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:58,990
Go

591
01:00:00,690 --> 01:00:01,750
I

592
01:00:03,830 --> 01:00:35,660
can see that being very involved. Would love to get, and I've mentioned before, something going on a satellite parking structure. Even if it's a pilot program at our intermodal for 50 sites tied to what part is doing $1.00 for overnight. But we're saying free for 72 hours there. But after I saw that $20 million go to Alameda County, I just assumed to come back here. And I'm going to say, I'm going to say,

593
01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:40,920
And it's going to be needed and explore the possibility you're right on the French here.

594
01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:48,740
I think I brought it up of an EIFD on the Iron Horse Trail from the Transit Center all the

595
01:00:48,740 --> 01:00:51,740
way down to where Bishop Ranch ends on the south end.

596
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,480
I think there's something I'm not sure I'm going to have to run

597
01:01:01,250 --> 01:01:03,050
out, but I love it.

598
01:01:04,350 --> 01:01:06,330
I mean, I'll go out on a limb right now.

599
01:01:07,710 --> 01:01:13,150
I'm afraid that if it goes like some of the stuff we do where we wait and we wait and let's

600
01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:19,850
entitle this and you know it'll be 2065 and like you say things look different but in the

601
01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:28,060
stuff that I'm using these are the people that are moving a hold on and find out there's

602
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:32,440
no money coming back to them so it's a deal.

603
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,860
I'm going to be a little bit philosophical about this because I think it is a great opportunity

604
01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:47,170
for this moment will look like 25 years from now. And we're really

605
01:01:47,170 --> 01:01:57,390
in the city when I am council member Hudson's age, people

606
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,200
like glass houses

607
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,700
mayor.

608
01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:09,420
But really as you're thinking about this

609
01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:12,220
designing it for somebody,

610
01:02:15,810 --> 01:02:21,430
20 years from now my son, my house and I'd probably be living

611
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:26,570
in some place like this because I want to be closer, I want to walk, I'll probably

612
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:28,490
be traveling a lot more and,

613
01:02:31,150 --> 01:02:35,830
you know, a few years ago, like it was mentioned, we designed

614
01:02:35,830 --> 01:02:36,550
Dordi Valley.

615
01:02:36,550 --> 01:02:43,370
When we thought about designing Dordi Valley, it was, I believe, a suburban neighborhood

616
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:48,290
with good schools, parks, and cars that could drive.

617
01:02:48,850 --> 01:02:49,850
And that's what it looks like.

618
01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:56,250
Future and as we're thinking about, you know, how people are looking at living, working,

619
01:02:57,370 --> 01:03:01,910
it is very much aligned with, you want a walkable place, you want a livable place, you want

620
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:05,990
places where people can work and where people can, well,

621
01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:09,910
transportation is changing very quickly.

622
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:11,370
How we're moving, how we're walking.

623
01:03:12,250 --> 01:03:14,730
You'll hear a lot about, as you mentioned, the 4,500.

624
01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:16,330
People will talk a lot about traffic.

625
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:19,770
How are we owning that conversation?

626
01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:20,870
What are we talking about?

627
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:25,190
Traffic looks like 25%.

628
01:03:26,090 --> 01:03:27,470
What do you want to own a car?

629
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:29,610
Is that the way of the future?

630
01:03:29,610 --> 01:03:33,330
or are we moving more and more toward social responsibility

631
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:34,590
about biking at

632
01:03:37,060 --> 01:03:38,420
80 percent?

633
01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:42,800
Or are we thinking about that and owning that conversation?

634
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:47,040
The other thing is as well, right?

635
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:51,220
We all have a favorite places that we travel to and love to see and be

636
01:03:51,220 --> 01:03:54,660
and whether it's Paris, whether it's Prague, whether it's Singapore,

637
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:55,680
or whether it's Japan.

638
01:03:56,180 --> 01:03:59,060
Those are vastly different cities, but people love going there.

639
01:03:59,060 --> 01:04:07,000
people, we build this community and how do we get a buy-in from our community as well

640
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,860
where people say, yes, this is where we want to be.

641
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,940
It was in New York, maybe last month, over the High Line.

642
01:04:16,820 --> 01:04:21,500
And that's a beautiful example of what we've done with something which was very legacy and

643
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:26,120
old train track and build it into, I mean, I don't know, 1.2 million people going,

644
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:29,320
hopefully

645
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,080
we're thinking progressively about, you know, everything that your plan says,

646
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:41,740
certainly, you know, I hope we continue to look at what the population would look like.

647
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:48,840
Like I said, you know, we were talking to people in there, but I think we have to be mindful

648
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,800
that you will get some older people who will be retiring well and people will be living longer lives

649
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,300
and they necessarily don't want to live in that four or five bedroom house, which they want to

650
01:04:59,300 --> 01:05:04,000
leave open for families. So we probably want to think about those two generations

651
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:10,960
because even now our under 17 population percentage is the same in San

652
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:17,700
Ramon. So we have a pretty good mix here. So yeah, appreciate you presenting

653
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:23,300
this, sharing this with us. Hopefully some of the input helps and like you said

654
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:24,360
at the community engagement.

655
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:26,840
My recommendation would,

656
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,700
farmers market has been growing really vibrant.

657
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,980
And a lot, I see a lot of people walking over there.

658
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,340
So it might even be a good idea to have a booth there

659
01:05:36,340 --> 01:05:38,220
or something to have people look

660
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:40,340
at what the future of San Ramon looks like.

661
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:41,540
Thank you.

662
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:42,180
Thank you.

663
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:42,400
Thank you.

664
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:44,760
Missionors, anybody like to speak?

665
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:52,010
First of all, it looks beautiful.

666
01:05:52,750 --> 01:05:55,470
At first pass, I think I would agree

667
01:05:55,470 --> 01:06:05,450
in terms of some wishful thinking concerns on the 25-year outlook, while I understand

668
01:06:05,450 --> 01:06:11,980
from the business point of view that in a slow, methodical way, it does seem like that

669
01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:14,300
is a big time.

670
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:26,660
And I just had an idea of hanging on to our mature landscaping, but we all get old.

671
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:35,000
So I would just, you know, want to raise that issue as we look at this and we sort of

672
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,440
counting on all those trees to be there in the next 25 years, and that's not a given.

673
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:49,360
And I know I'm probably going to regret this, but I just had this passing worry about

674
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:59,770
about the latest attitudes around our cell towers going up and get one point, as we looked

675
01:06:59,770 --> 01:07:04,650
at preferred sites for new cell towers and where we can squeeze those,

676
01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:08,790
put a big wrinkle

677
01:07:09,370 --> 01:07:12,510
into some of that thinking, so that's just something else too.

678
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:13,810
I

679
01:07:19,820 --> 01:07:20,600
see Mr. Marks.

680
01:07:23,890 --> 01:07:29,230
First of all, I want to say to me, one of the most important things is

681
01:07:33,930 --> 01:07:37,840
this, what I call

682
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:48,500
well then, to take retail centers where our retail is performing well and to place it

683
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:54,620
here in the city center and I very much appreciate city centers willingness to do this.

684
01:07:56,060 --> 01:08:05,180
I understand that maybe council members think 25 years is a long time, but in my experience

685
01:08:05,180 --> 01:08:07,440
It was a set up for it, but

686
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:12,750
it was, I'm not sure all of it was.

687
01:08:13,770 --> 01:08:15,710
I think Jean has some concerns here.

688
01:08:16,750 --> 01:08:21,790
This is a huge finding, this is a project that has a lot of risk in it,

689
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:25,490
existing buildings

690
01:08:26,050 --> 01:08:33,450
and tearing out old infrastructure and then building the new stuff and so it wouldn't surprise

691
01:08:33,450 --> 01:08:41,250
me if what's driving the 25 years is not so much the timing that they would like to build,

692
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:46,330
but the financial side of this, that they have to pay more attention to.

693
01:08:48,410 --> 01:08:54,960
One of the things I'd like to plan, I've reviewed lots of plans in my life more than

694
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,720
I'd like to remember, and this is among the best.

695
01:09:01,330 --> 01:09:05,950
You've gone very far in defining building scale.

696
01:09:05,950 --> 01:09:13,190
you even have some architectural forms here and so I we haven't seen this very much

697
01:09:13,190 --> 01:09:18,050
obviously we just saw it tonight for us to get very positional about wow I like

698
01:09:18,050 --> 01:09:22,810
this and I like that we don't really understand what's before us tonight we

699
01:09:22,810 --> 01:09:26,970
don't know what the secret impacts are going to be we don't know what some of the

700
01:09:26,970 --> 01:09:33,550
other impacts might be and so while I like what you've tried to do tonight a

701
01:09:33,550 --> 01:09:39,170
A question to you is how flexible will you be during the planning process if we have

702
01:09:39,170 --> 01:09:39,870
a disagreement?

703
01:09:40,850 --> 01:09:46,320
One of the concerns I have is this isn't just a one working on this.

704
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:54,680
You've gone probably through any number of iterations of phase one should look like this,

705
01:09:54,860 --> 01:09:57,740
maybe it should look like that, how does it melt with phase two, etc.

706
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:05,120
And so you get kind of vested in what public planning,

707
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,380
while we need to be market sensitive to what your concerns are,

708
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:16,920
there needs to be a certain amount of flexibility on the part of the applicant's

709
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,360
joint effort.

710
01:10:21,660 --> 01:10:27,840
And I think it would be unwise for anyone to expect that this is it.

711
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,260
This is the plan. It's been done.

712
01:10:29,820 --> 01:10:40,100
There's going to be changes, I would think, to be sensitive to what your needs are, but also some flexibility on the part of the applicant and the design team.

713
01:10:41,220 --> 01:10:44,800
I want to say that our

714
01:10:51,260 --> 01:11:03,540
impressive, what I would like to see when the Planning Commission sees this for the first time is not to focus as much on everything, but break it apart.

715
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:16,900
Let's take a loan without streets, or I should say with streets, but not get caught up in trying to review the whole thing at one time.

716
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:25,500
There's too much, it's too detailed, it's too comprehensive and to handle all this.

717
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:29,940
Let's take a look at the site planning, let's take a look at the traffic,

718
01:11:32,230 --> 01:11:33,730
but just how the street system works.

719
01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:35,830
Let's take a look at the part,

720
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:47,120
so that we can piece by piece, put this together, and the level that you understand it.

721
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,160
And lastly, let me just say that I

722
01:11:52,400 --> 01:12:06,480
have found in the past is that at the end of these meetings, let me say tomorrow morning, your team will likely get together and go over the meeting and ask yourself what did they say, what were they concerned about?

723
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:10,580
But what were the takeaways, pluses and minuses?

724
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:18,200
It would be helpful for us tonight before you leave to understand what it is you think

725
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:23,960
you heard, what it is you think we think so that we're on the same page because I can

726
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:34,620
imagine and have seen where organizations like yours leave the meeting thinking wow.

727
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:41,640
And the first time they come back to the planning commission, the wow is not really a

728
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,340
wow. There's other things there that maybe they didn't hear. So,

729
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:53,970
Mr. Mayor, if you could just ask the team, what do you think in the pluses and

730
01:12:53,970 --> 01:12:59,790
minuses so that we're all on the same page when we start this. I think this is a

731
01:12:59,790 --> 01:13:02,890
very good job and your overall direction I think is very good.

732
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,060
And while I'm

733
01:13:14,060 --> 01:13:19,500
suffering from information to focus on the phasing briefly.

734
01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:27,260
So starting with the premise that I guess BR 2600 to South East Bay is, right?

735
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:30,060
Right, along with the hotel on BR 3A.

736
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,480
Okay, along with the hotel.

737
01:13:32,260 --> 01:13:39,030
What's the three residential parcels on-

738
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:44,580
There's two residential buildings within the first phase.

739
01:13:46,460 --> 01:13:47,800
Oh, in the hotel, right.

740
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,900
anticipated housing unit number for.

741
01:13:55,980 --> 01:14:01,860
So each phase will be developed depending on the configuration of the building summer between two and 400 units.

742
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:08,740
I believe the first building in Southeast Lotte that we were started as a roughly 360 units, I believe.

743
01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:11,020
There's something in that neighborhood.

744
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:18,270
If you could pick an ideal or optimal timeline for phase one,

745
01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:22,590
or at least completion of the residential portion, what would that be?

746
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,660
No, just the southeast line.

747
01:14:34,250 --> 01:14:37,970
23, 24, 2023, 2024.

748
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:38,270
Okay.

749
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:46,470
And then I didn't see the phasing slide in the packet.

750
01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:47,590
I might have missed it.

751
01:14:48,830 --> 01:14:51,570
When was phase two, again, just generally?

752
01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:54,730
Phase two goes over to Lot BR3A.

753
01:14:54,730 --> 01:14:56,810
Okay.

754
01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:20,570
Okay, thank you very much. I mean, this is, this is an impressive packet, especially for a newbie like myself. I'm looking forward to now sort of walking the landscape with this packet at least to get an overview. So the next meeting we have all will all look like in my brain anyway. So thanks for your time.

755
01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:31,530
So in the future we'll get sequin that whole package of documents. I am concerned a little bit about circulation and traffic.

756
01:15:32,210 --> 01:15:51,820
because when you've got through for building and the parking is associated with that and a fraction of those people, I'm sure we'll be working in Bishop Ranch, but even where you have couples, if one works in Bishop Ranch, the other one probably doesn't or may not.

757
01:15:51,820 --> 01:16:00,480
So there's a significant number of cars leaving down executive parkway, going down

758
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:05,400
commuter remote and all that. So the whole of the impacts are going to be real

759
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:13,100
important. As well as for years and I know Alex knows is that when you over

760
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:18,640
park it's very expensive to have a lot of empty spaces and that's a bunch of empty

761
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:23,080
spaces which also gives you an opportunity. But when you under park that creates a

762
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:35,020
a whole nother set of problems and a lot of time ensuring that it's the right number of parking spaces for the residential, because those are going to be interior to the buildings.

763
01:16:36,140 --> 01:16:42,280
And then the structures are going to be for the office and the little bit of commercial that's left over.

764
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:50,640
I am associated with the roundhouse and the conference center, because I,

765
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:53,700
you know,

766
01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:57,580
once they're on Mondays, and Mondays there's a lot of conferences there.

767
01:16:58,300 --> 01:17:01,320
And your little parking lot that's for is

768
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:06,170
often full on conference days.

769
01:17:07,090 --> 01:17:13,060
And so where are they going to be put away at the north end?

770
01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:19,860
That seems a long way to make your customer go from the parking lot to the Roundhouse Conference Center.

771
01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:23,400
I'm just a little concerned that the proximity is lost.

772
01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:33,110
It's already a substantial walk to go from the parking lot in through the Roundhouse and it's going to grow.

773
01:17:35,690 --> 01:17:38,730
I'm not in the center anymore.

774
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,520
Maybe that's a level of detail.

775
01:17:44,220 --> 01:17:46,680
But that doesn't want

776
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,840
you to don't kill the conference center in the process of doing this.

777
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,320
As David mentioned, the air district may have grants to help with electric vehicles.

778
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,360
I'm sure you're working with Marine Clean Energy, MCE.

779
01:18:03,740 --> 01:18:08,460
They also have grants to help with electric vehicles and other things like that, so

780
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:10,620
don't ignore those opportunities.

781
01:18:10,620 --> 01:18:25,730
and yeah, you may be those discussions early enough, and they say, oh, we've got enough money to allocate 300 to you, or something like that.

782
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:28,230
I don't know what the numbers are, but you want to do that.

783
01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:34,550
I want to make sure that there are clearly, you've identified some,

784
01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:43,390
the amenities of the community facility there on Lake Annabelle.

785
01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:43,650
And

786
01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:49,780
some additional amenities along there in horse trail.

787
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:55,100
We need to make sure that we make those, we do those amenities.

788
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:03,360
We don't want to be looking at phase four and we're just now getting around adding the amenities.

789
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,760
So those are going to be important.

790
01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:11,160
Revenue to the city, I know Alex mentioned that specifically in his opening remarks.

791
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:23,050
Yeah, that is important that we have the revenue to support those, you know, that these people are going to live across the street from the library.

792
01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:27,150
We may need to add hours to the library and we may need to add staff to the library, things like that.

793
01:19:27,370 --> 01:19:31,790
So the revenue to the city has to be there.

794
01:19:32,150 --> 01:19:34,970
We need to make sure that the rest of the city isn't so

795
01:19:37,050 --> 01:19:39,870
recycling a lot.

796
01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:44,710
You mentioned, it was mentioned early on that plants, not all plants deal well with

797
01:19:44,710 --> 01:19:45,390
recycled water.

798
01:19:45,530 --> 01:19:52,890
One of the worst, of course, is redwood trees are awkward in confined spaces anyway.

799
01:19:53,790 --> 01:19:55,130
So I recommend against those.

800
01:19:57,410 --> 01:20:04,330
You mentioned early on that structures like BR3 and BR15 have stood the test of time in

801
01:20:04,330 --> 01:20:05,870
terms of their architectural quality.

802
01:20:06,750 --> 01:20:12,330
Nobody looks at those today, you know, those were designed 20 plus years ago.

803
01:20:13,690 --> 01:20:14,990
Those are really out of date.

804
01:20:15,170 --> 01:20:16,450
Man, I wish they hadn't done that.

805
01:20:17,310 --> 01:20:23,770
And so I'm confident that using the same design characteristics and the same design quality

806
01:20:23,770 --> 01:20:26,790
that these structures will stand the test of time.

807
01:20:26,890 --> 01:20:33,090
Well, don't want to look at these in the year 2045

808
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:36,310
and say, you know the ones they built back in 23, how did they look awful?

809
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:45,270
So I know you did that to make this right because you're going to own them for a long

810
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:48,410
time and you don't want them to be able to light on them.

811
01:20:49,850 --> 01:21:03,730
I recognize the value of the branch units that will be free to 4,000 employees, or so maybe

812
01:21:03,730 --> 01:21:10,510
more depending on how the couples and things and the occupancy but that will add a great

813
01:21:10,510 --> 01:21:20,180
to city center. It creates a whole new city center and the rest of it.

814
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:26,560
Thank you. It's a lot to take in and I'm looking forward to going through it in more detail.

815
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,700
And I appreciate your efforts and I think it's we need to go forward.

816
01:21:32,980 --> 01:21:34,000
Thank you.

817
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,260
You're

818
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:47,820
most of my comments were already captured, but I want to emphasize also what Commissioner Mark said and that you did listen in protecting the neighborhood retail, the neighborhoods, the hills.

819
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:56,800
Not mentioned and this goes back even farther back and when the mayor was out visiting businesses in one of the most common comments here.

820
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:04,830
Most of our companies and the difficulty in hiring people to work in businesses, and

821
01:22:04,830 --> 01:22:08,530
I know you hear that in the business park often, that people have a hard time commuting.

822
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:14,830
It's not just the high paid workers in the business park, it's teachers, it's police officers,

823
01:22:14,830 --> 01:22:21,390
it's nurses, it's workers, and I would hope that there's a program that would eventually

824
01:22:21,390 --> 01:22:28,730
So we've all the units that we could provide for people that have access to some of the

825
01:22:28,730 --> 01:22:37,230
4,500 business parts that we give priority to people that are in some of those other jobs,

826
01:22:37,550 --> 01:22:40,590
whether they're teachers or nurses or police officers or firefighters.

827
01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:45,630
I hope there's a program that can evolve to some of the units there because I think that's

828
01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:46,110
a high priority.

829
01:22:46,850 --> 01:22:52,530
And I also like commissioners as far as comments that it's not just the workforce, but it's

830
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:57,290
also people that might be at the later stages of their career or even that have exited

831
01:22:57,290 --> 01:23:01,570
the workforce that want to stay in San Ramon that don't need a, you know, a 2500 or a

832
01:23:01,570 --> 01:23:05,350
3000 square foot home that want to live there because they might also want to stay in the

833
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:05,810
city court.

834
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:13,390
You know, as far as the project goes, there's an awful lot to do. It looks

835
01:23:13,390 --> 01:23:19,350
wonderful. There's a lot to digest and I like Commissioner Mark's suggestion to digesting

836
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:24,470
the plan, we have the, we have the, you know, the 100,000 view picture of it and when

837
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:28,310
we start to digest it to focus on the details of it so we can kind of figure out what it

838
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:32,850
looks like and would look to city staff to try and help us figure out the right way to kind

839
01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:42,900
of take it in chunks that makes sense of it and what piece parts and what order it takes

840
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:46,480
to make sense, but it's going to take a while for at least for me to do that.

841
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:58,780
But when it does come, I think the park's master plan might go through the city, whether

842
01:23:58,780 --> 01:24:01,360
it's the types of parks we need or what are the parts,

843
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:06,680
I'm sure that they'll do this

844
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:16,220
parks, but there's been a lot of time from the residents, I think that's always a big

845
01:24:16,220 --> 01:24:16,520
thing.

846
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,380
And then really the process, I appreciate that you already scheduled at least one session

847
01:24:22,380 --> 01:24:23,200
for community input.

848
01:24:23,340 --> 01:24:24,200
That was high on my list.

849
01:24:24,380 --> 01:24:29,780
The more input we can get, the easier it will be to figure out 10 of us didn't think

850
01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:32,200
of, you know, but I thank you for that.

851
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:36,620
And then looking forward to the first session that it comes before the planning commission,

852
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:43,390
because I believe it will be the input in a lot more detail.

853
01:24:43,770 --> 01:24:44,710
So thank you so much.

854
01:24:44,970 --> 01:24:45,270
Thank you.

855
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:48,660
Thank you for all the work you've done.

856
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,140
I apologize that my comments and thoughts are not well-organized.

857
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:55,940
We just saw,

858
01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:02,680
and so we're all, I think, struggling to follow,

859
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:05,940
we weren't quite in order.

860
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:06,880
What page?

861
01:25:06,980 --> 01:25:07,480
What page?

862
01:25:07,660 --> 01:25:17,040
So, I apologize for the questions and comments, so I think giving an overview of how we're

863
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,020
all here to begin with, it's been the philosophy of this Council on the Planning Commission

864
01:25:21,020 --> 01:25:31,400
that we really want to protect our shopping centers and primarily protect our open spaces, our hills.

865
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:43,260
And for five years, what you guys did through your hard work with the strategic, the retail strategy and

866
01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:50,540
moving a lot of housing out the shopping centers into Bishop Ranch to rezone 20 for

867
01:25:52,940 --> 01:25:54,080
the purpose of

868
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,600
protecting our neighborhoods I think was great and I really appreciate that we're going

869
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:58,200
in that direction.

870
01:26:01,020 --> 01:26:06,160
Part of that's a environment in Sacramento.

871
01:26:09,250 --> 01:26:12,830
They're to impose upon cities

872
01:26:12,830 --> 01:26:19,970
and communities in different shapes and forms. There are some cities that have fought it.

873
01:26:20,430 --> 01:26:25,070
One of us, one which is south of us a few miles, fought that battle lost heavily and now they've

874
01:26:25,070 --> 01:26:29,390
lost control for many years where all the apartment buildings are going in their town.

875
01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:31,390
So we want to be smart.

876
01:26:31,610 --> 01:26:36,890
But at the same time, we've sent pretty clear messages that we want to protect our neighborhoods.

877
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:46,870
We have a good solution where we can meet the housing needs being posed upon us and

878
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:47,750
yet protect neighborhoods.

879
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:51,410
But the details still have to get worked out, but philosophically.

880
01:26:53,470 --> 01:27:00,110
I didn't spend a lot of time early on, it was called 50 and 50, we tried to get 50 weeks.

881
01:27:00,930 --> 01:27:05,850
And it was clear that one of the concerns I heard, there's lots of businesses in Bishop

882
01:27:05,850 --> 01:27:12,790
Branch, a couple that are large, and a lot of their employees make $50, $75,000 a month

883
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:13,290
in income.

884
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:14,150
A year.

885
01:27:14,510 --> 01:27:15,710
Excuse me, a year in income.

886
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:17,690
We're not quite at Silicon Valley, thank you.

887
01:27:19,850 --> 01:27:24,170
And if they don't own here already, and they're renting, they could be out of the area.

888
01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:28,510
We don't have direct transit here like Walnut Creek does in a having a barred station.

889
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:33,110
And just especially at night going north.

890
01:27:33,950 --> 01:27:39,450
And that's an issue for them, which means we may have a business park that struggles to

891
01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:40,650
get large employers in here.

892
01:27:40,810 --> 01:27:42,010
So this could be a win

893
01:27:44,090 --> 01:27:47,050
in walking to work and not driving from Antioch.

894
01:27:47,050 --> 01:27:47,690
The

895
01:27:50,410 --> 01:27:55,130
concept is really good at the same page.

896
01:27:56,170 --> 01:27:59,990
The next thing comes to mind is public comment.

897
01:28:00,250 --> 01:28:02,570
We didn't have any tonight, but we're going to get lots of public comment.

898
01:28:03,210 --> 01:28:08,570
Doing one meeting at night, we should do them on the weekends, we should do them during the days.

899
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:10,510
Let's find lots of opportunities.

900
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:15,650
Let's do great outreach both in your part and our part that people will come and

901
01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:23,570
first spend time doing this, why the cities doing this, why you're doing this.

902
01:28:23,570 --> 01:28:29,570
give them a chance to understand the state laws and the reasons and the influences that are driving this engine.

903
01:28:30,630 --> 01:28:37,110
And then giving them a chance to talk without going into a lot of detail about what would they like in a very

904
01:28:37,890 --> 01:28:42,670
urban sort of environment, the kinds of amenities which goes to some other questions I have.

905
01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:46,030
And again, these are not in order so I can apologize.

906
01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:49,370
I like the fact that you're focusing on a very walkable area.

907
01:28:49,670 --> 01:28:52,890
I'm not sure what that means yet because I don't understand the plan well enough.

908
01:28:55,970 --> 01:29:03,550
When I heard you say this is open to all residents, are there amenities that will be in this plan that are be not open to residents?

909
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,260
Living there, correct, yes.

910
01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:12,220
So there will be areas, there will be amenities that that the San Ramon residents can't come into.

911
01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:25,650
Right, those amenities that will be directed directly forth in the public spaces that Rob pointed out, where we have the barbecues and the things set up for where the residents are kind of in the courtyards of the buildings.

912
01:29:27,310 --> 01:29:28,690
of that part.

913
01:29:30,250 --> 01:29:33,210
We talk about this in large terms to public.

914
01:29:33,450 --> 01:29:41,460
Let's define areas that are amenity and have a bucket of amenities that are open to

915
01:29:41,460 --> 01:29:41,920
the public.

916
01:29:43,540 --> 01:29:51,940
If a part of this is driving this because it's really a lot of residents, then I want them

917
01:29:51,940 --> 01:29:52,480
to understand that

918
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,820
I'm more to the extent that you guys is to have everything is open to

919
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,800
All residents as possible. If you go to Stanford, Cisco, most of their parks they have on their buildings are open to the public during the daytime. They closed in weekends, I understand that.

920
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:30,310
Go in that same direction to have our amenities open to the public. Because I've got a complaint with Annabelle Lake, I'll use the Annabelle Lake for the first time, to the public. I

921
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:39,470
open that lake up and putting a beautiful trail landscaping

922
01:30:43,930 --> 01:30:48,610
And I'd like us to keep going to the extent we can in that same direction.

923
01:30:50,810 --> 01:30:54,990
We have, through our parks commission, there's a parks commission over there, Carol,

924
01:30:55,230 --> 01:30:55,450
I care.

925
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:58,790
Two residents.

926
01:30:59,770 --> 01:31:09,450
I think it's six acres, five acres, but right, roughly 30 acres of new park because of

927
01:31:09,450 --> 01:31:12,370
the number of new residents. So one of the question,

928
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:16,400
how do we create 30 acres of park

929
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,020
or how do we come for

930
01:31:24,820 --> 01:31:28,480
that many residents? There may be more than 5,000 and I know it's

931
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:31,220
I've just pulled in the number route because it's around that.

932
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:35,390
That would be an important

933
01:31:35,390 --> 01:31:39,110
thing and not with things that are already existing but how are we going to create new stuff

934
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:40,230
on top of that.

935
01:31:42,370 --> 01:31:47,990
Others have said this. I'm repeating some user friendly to all ages. I saw some of the

936
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:50,310
walkways, are all the walkways going to be cement?

937
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:58,390
There'll be various, we haven't decided every moment will be cement, some of it might be pervious paving.

938
01:31:58,730 --> 01:31:59,530
Pervious paving?

939
01:32:00,050 --> 01:32:09,980
They won't frighten them, especially in winter when it's wet, and you won't want to make sure we have surfers.

940
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:22,800
So just, I wasn't sure if that was a granite, but it could be composed granite, thank you, which erodes over each season.

941
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:33,220
And I know I saw what you did around 2600, you are 2600 kind of broken up and you made

942
01:32:33,220 --> 01:32:34,920
it solid, great work, great work.

943
01:32:38,940 --> 01:32:41,400
I would, and again, I don't understand all the amenities.

944
01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:48,500
When I spend time walking around in San Francisco, they have lots of really interesting amenities

945
01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:52,860
that are in different forms, whether it's a large sundial somewhere, a lamber earth here.

946
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:55,900
they have been around the city.

947
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,500
Being placed in not just greenways,

948
01:33:02,140 --> 01:33:04,420
I, people walk a greenway once,

949
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:06,380
but if you give them an interesting thing,

950
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,060
especially things that are interesting for children to experience,

951
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,700
and I'm sure you could probably Google this and find really

952
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:15,940
amazing things that other cities, communities have done to create

953
01:33:15,940 --> 01:33:21,100
things that are interesting where they spend time.

954
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:23,540
And to the extent we can do that, I think that'd be helpful.

955
01:33:24,580 --> 01:33:30,100
I think it's really important, Gary made the comment that whatever you do needs to integrate with the park master plan.

956
01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:36,560
They're going through a lot of work, a joint workshop with the parks commission and us.

957
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:42,240
This really needs to make sure it aligns with the values and their vision and not be a standalone project.

958
01:33:42,740 --> 01:33:49,060
Even though it's all on Bishop Ranch property, it should align with the vision that the parks commission has.

959
01:33:55,310 --> 01:34:02,500
Outline clearly what are all the benefits outside of this project.

960
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:10,820
One of the things that I think is important for you to do is to communicate how our city will benefit from this.

961
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,280
From traffic, hopefully congestion being relieved, people walking to work.

962
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,540
But also, what are the things that residents will get?

963
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,760
The city center was a really great place for a lot of people to come and spend time.

964
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,960
And they love going to the city center and there's different things to do there.

965
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:34,940
What are the things that residents outside of this will be able to enjoy and appreciate this project?

966
01:34:35,140 --> 01:34:36,500
I think it's part of your outreach.

967
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,060
The timing of the amenities, somebody else talked about that.

968
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:46,840
And I think there should be a realistic one where if we, we don't want to bathe,

969
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,820
that's one of the things that people are going to really.

970
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:59,320
The amenities to the extent you're going to afford to do it, I understand that, but having a visible timetable and when they're going to occur.

971
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:07,040
Scott talked about the fact that we want to make sure we have a revenue neutral project.

972
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,140
And for everybody in the audience, houses cost communities money.

973
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:19,280
People in the city gets new projects, building homes are more expensive to service than we get revenue from homes.

974
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:36,400
And this city through leadership of Bob Sachs who was the attorney before Martin put together a community benefit district where we did an exit study so we were in revenue neutral with the cost of the property and the cost of the services and the income we got.

975
01:35:37,220 --> 01:35:37,840
In fact,

976
01:35:39,970 --> 01:35:48,450
in court where Bob Sachs prevailed, I think it's important that you build into your model to make sure that we're revenue neutral.

977
01:35:48,450 --> 01:35:56,670
this should not cost the city coffers, money, so I don't know if you guys will work that out, but it's important for residents to know we want this to be cost-revenue neutral.

978
01:35:59,170 --> 01:36:07,870
And my last thing is that I think the most important thing is that we as a council allow this that we share.

979
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:17,680
But we let it go back into your capable hands and you guys go to work and that last question

980
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,640
I'm going to ask before there's more after public comment or after our comment.

981
01:36:20,700 --> 01:36:25,740
I'm going to ask you the question which is what did you hear from us and what are you

982
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:30,860
going to ask to what you heard from us, I will make sure that you know that's a question

983
01:36:30,860 --> 01:36:31,680
I'm going to ask.

984
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:40,200
The fact that the next public input process, we really need lots of public input, we need

985
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:45,540
to both understand it and we need to hope that was helpful.

986
01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:46,420
Thank you.

987
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:52,320
I think we'll be repeated a couple times.

988
01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:58,720
Free CCCTA, free county connection passes to the people that are living in here.

989
01:36:59,420 --> 01:37:00,140
I mean, this is huge.

990
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,000
Yeah, they mentioned it, yeah.

991
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,720
It gets down to you're worried about parking.

992
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:13,920
People aren't buying cars when you're getting free passes in October or in the

993
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:14,260
end of the

994
01:37:18,580 --> 01:37:18,800
day.

995
01:37:18,980 --> 01:37:26,140
These are big things that happen to people.

996
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:27,920
This is the way people are going.

997
01:37:29,900 --> 01:37:32,960
You're not going to see single family detached homes anymore.

998
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:37,220
If they're not in priority development areas and you can't have them in priority

999
01:37:37,220 --> 01:37:41,980
development areas because it won't work with transit, it's got to be at least 16 homes per acre.

1000
01:37:42,460 --> 01:37:46,620
So it isn't as much the height of the this, it's how many people are going to be moved around,

1001
01:37:47,220 --> 01:37:52,540
but the real benefit that we have never experienced before is having the retail

1002
01:37:54,650 --> 01:37:56,050
housing,

1003
01:37:56,510 --> 01:38:01,770
where people are actually walking to this, how many years have we seen it where we're losing it to

1004
01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:05,290
Dublin. Now we're talking about the

1005
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:10,880
transit component.

1006
01:38:13,340 --> 01:38:14,320
You've been talking about the

1007
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:22,920
impervious surface is so big now in development. Whether or not we want it, don't want it,

1008
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:23,300
it's there.

1009
01:38:25,550 --> 01:38:33,910
It's going to be, I would like one of these pictures in the townhouses or

1010
01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:35,350
or apartments or whatever had a pool.

1011
01:38:36,050 --> 01:38:41,550
You've got to branch due to

1012
01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:47,730
care of something to consider.

1013
01:38:47,890 --> 01:38:50,970
It wouldn't bother me at all if there were no pools in there.

1014
01:38:51,410 --> 01:38:56,090
Because I honestly believe we should be looking at what we have and supporting those businesses.

1015
01:38:58,610 --> 01:39:09,010
I asked more people to pedestrian and bikes and scooters and scooters and scooters going across that.

1016
01:39:09,010 --> 01:39:17,130
but that particular bridge, it's an ideal place, this is just filling in, and it is really

1017
01:39:17,130 --> 01:39:23,850
nice to see this come together. I know there's going to be a lot of details in the planning

1018
01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:24,190
commission,

1019
01:39:26,540 --> 01:39:35,080
but we've got to have a plan of dealing towards it for a moment. It is here,

1020
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:39,480
and it's a lot less than a cost.

1021
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:41,220
I had a few more questions.

1022
01:39:41,540 --> 01:39:43,860
So one was, you mentioned affordable housing.

1023
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,420
How do you plan to integrate that?

1024
01:39:46,620 --> 01:39:48,860
Because one of the facts about getting tech

1025
01:39:48,860 --> 01:39:53,300
or hyping job in any community is that every hyping job

1026
01:39:53,300 --> 01:39:55,900
creates about five service jobs with it.

1027
01:39:56,480 --> 01:39:58,400
So what are your plans there?

1028
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,260
I would, whether you address them now

1029
01:40:00,260 --> 01:40:02,960
or maybe at a later meeting, I would love to understand

1030
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,340
and how that ends with the water.

1031
01:40:07,060 --> 01:40:10,860
So has this gone to approval?

1032
01:40:13,210 --> 01:40:15,270
I believe they're going to be a water provider, right?

1033
01:40:15,530 --> 01:40:20,050
So is that, are you going to take the plants over to them

1034
01:40:20,050 --> 01:40:21,130
as well and get the approval?

1035
01:40:21,250 --> 01:40:22,970
You've started the process with the spay mud already.

1036
01:40:23,130 --> 01:40:23,310
All right.

1037
01:40:25,090 --> 01:40:29,910
Because I hope they're affected here.

1038
01:40:30,190 --> 01:40:31,730
When I go to Pallol, I'm super tired.

1039
01:40:33,310 --> 01:40:35,310
We have quite a few in Bishop Ranch.

1040
01:40:35,450 --> 01:40:36,310
We really enjoy them.

1041
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:40,950
And so hopefully they'll be integrated as part of the process that we build this.

1042
01:40:41,630 --> 01:40:43,130
And the last one is art.

1043
01:40:43,450 --> 01:40:46,750
I didn't quite hear it mentioned, I'm thinking it's part of your plan.

1044
01:40:47,010 --> 01:40:53,290
But hopefully, Lamar mentioned interesting, I think, how is art integrated as part of it.

1045
01:40:53,490 --> 01:40:54,190
So thank you.

1046
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:56,550
Phil, you okay?

1047
01:40:58,370 --> 01:40:58,590
Good.

1048
01:40:59,730 --> 01:41:00,030
Derek?

1049
01:41:01,090 --> 01:41:01,650
Eric?

1050
01:41:02,350 --> 01:41:02,550
Good.

1051
01:41:05,550 --> 01:41:08,450
Mr. Mayor, I just have an ask of the applicant.

1052
01:41:08,450 --> 01:41:17,510
It would be a scale of this plan and the street system that's envisioned if through the

1053
01:41:17,510 --> 01:41:23,160
course of this planning process you could organize field trips

1054
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:31,840
and on each phase integrates

1055
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:37,040
from a circulation system, from a pedestrian circulation system and just where the buildings

1056
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,720
are going to be relative to that site.

1057
01:41:48,130 --> 01:41:49,850
So, what did you hear tonight?

1058
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:53,180
I'm going to approve it tonight, no?

1059
01:41:56,250 --> 01:41:57,290
You're killing me.

1060
01:41:58,090 --> 01:41:58,930
All right.

1061
01:41:59,050 --> 01:41:59,830
Jerry's going to stay up here.

1062
01:41:59,850 --> 01:42:00,850
We're going to try to do this together.

1063
01:42:01,790 --> 01:42:02,470
If you're being

1064
01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:11,260
here, extremely thoughtful plan.

1065
01:42:11,980 --> 01:42:16,880
I'd like to address the 25-year schedule since that was something that was shared a few days.

1066
01:42:18,830 --> 01:42:20,730
I think the biggest thing about that is transparency.

1067
01:42:21,650 --> 01:42:25,520
We don't want to present our vision.

1068
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:31,740
And so we wanted to come up with something that reflects basically what I'm going to spend

1069
01:42:31,740 --> 01:42:32,720
the rest of my life doing.

1070
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:37,800
And that's all I can see you have to ask one of my kids about the next plan.

1071
01:42:38,300 --> 01:42:41,360
But for those ones seven, so maybe a little bit early.

1072
01:42:43,300 --> 01:42:49,800
So in that vein of being transparent, we have to be honest as Commissioner Mark said about

1073
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:57,320
how long it's going to take to build it and delivering 200, 300 units a year is a little

1074
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:02,300
much easier to plan and adapt in a reasonable fashion and that's what we came up with.

1075
01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:06,460
So you combine those two things together with the desire to not have a huge rate of change

1076
01:43:06,460 --> 01:43:12,400
and also to reflect changes in taste and technology and things as the plan develops.

1077
01:43:12,820 --> 01:43:18,860
That's where we came up with that and hopefully we can get comfortable with it.

1078
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:24,420
I heard tonight that you all understand very well the issues of attraction and retention

1079
01:43:24,420 --> 01:43:30,700
in our businesses and the relationship of those with affordability and commutes and

1080
01:43:30,700 --> 01:43:37,500
what we're trying to do there which we prefer to show with neighborhood print, set out

1081
01:43:38,140 --> 01:43:40,540
which are obviously core to our goals as well.

1082
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:49,340
Make sure that we time out the amenities so that there are units and we'll work on that.

1083
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:55,180
We want to make sure that we integrate the BOL and your bridge with the BR3A and BR1A

1084
01:43:55,180 --> 01:44:00,260
developments, which we've looked at and have some answers to and we'd also like to work

1085
01:44:00,260 --> 01:44:04,140
with your team and making sure that the connections in the elevators and things make sense

1086
01:44:04,140 --> 01:44:14,740
with where we put what you're doing integrated, especially that connection of Bishop and

1087
01:44:14,740 --> 01:44:18,820
the iron horse trail where we built the bike trail because we want it in the center.

1088
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:26,340
We understand we can work on grants for EV infrastructure, whether it's with M2, we

1089
01:44:26,340 --> 01:44:32,540
can get grants for MCE recently helped us along with PG&E on almost 200 charges we put

1090
01:44:32,540 --> 01:44:34,360
in the Bishop Ranch River last year.

1091
01:44:36,410 --> 01:44:37,490
Parking is it enough?

1092
01:44:39,330 --> 01:44:45,630
Sensitive because we don't like building parking and it's going away slowly, but certainly

1093
01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:50,340
They will be focused on that and we'll see how it's marked.

1094
01:44:52,420 --> 01:44:59,300
The thing on that, we did flip those back and forth but at the end of the day we wanted that apartment building to face the lake.

1095
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,080
It's like to like Cecilia and have that multifamily with a better view. So I could go the other way, though.

1096
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:14,520
Oider comment that today's kids that are moving out might live in our unit

1097
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:24,090
down in city center and how we make city-by-all

1098
01:45:24,090 --> 01:45:30,820
generation just like we love going to the places we travel, whether it's all the way to the

1099
01:45:30,820 --> 01:45:39,300
high line or Singapore or to the city and seeing those cute things that the framework of

1100
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:49,160
city center was extremely strong and limited in the purposeful about some cute stuff like

1101
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,660
yet, but that's definitely an integral part of the plan, particularly when you get walking

1102
01:45:52,660 --> 01:45:59,300
trails and things. It's fun to have that stuff. So keeping the office for entitlement purposes,

1103
01:45:59,300 --> 01:46:09,580
I heard that, love places and while they'll love this place, the farmers market, we also

1104
01:46:09,580 --> 01:46:17,510
thought about taking some of the things that definitely a lot of discussion about

1105
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:23,330
more community input which we welcome and we'd also welcome new ideas and changes to the

1106
01:46:23,330 --> 01:46:27,070
plan with,

1107
01:46:29,210 --> 01:46:33,370
but that's not to say that we're telling you that this is how it is we'd love

1108
01:46:33,370 --> 01:46:43,370
to, as I said initially, the planting we're going with a redwood, certainly

1109
01:46:46,730 --> 01:46:47,190
we don't want

1110
01:46:47,190 --> 01:46:53,990
to do that. Luckily there's a huge buffer all the way around 2600 with some great oaks in

1111
01:46:53,990 --> 01:47:00,650
that which we really want to keep in their outside of where we want to put building.

1112
01:47:01,050 --> 01:47:11,130
So that's an idea of trying to save an old ash tree for our building.

1113
01:47:14,010 --> 01:47:20,830
Breaking it down by component, totally understand that so the understanding impact,

1114
01:47:21,870 --> 01:47:27,890
We need to work on that and I think we're under way what

1115
01:47:30,060 --> 01:47:41,640
the public residents get versus what's private, a very, very clear question there, potentially during certain hours, things are open just like the lake.

1116
01:47:45,950 --> 01:47:52,010
It's a problem with not enough people.

1117
01:47:52,550 --> 01:48:02,430
We need more people in our love and like Annabelle, because we're worried about crime.

1118
01:48:05,090 --> 01:48:05,990
I saw that problem.

1119
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:19,880
We will present that user friendly to all ages, clearly that's what this community is all about and what our plan will be all about.

1120
01:48:21,940 --> 01:48:23,200
Parks master plan

1121
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:36,600
clearly outlined in the community more clear is that the project definitely.

1122
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:43,540
If you want to mention on the bus, if you have free bus passes to all our tenants and

1123
01:48:43,540 --> 01:48:44,260
we run the 96,

1124
01:48:48,260 --> 01:48:51,740
those buses come to Bishop Branch full and

1125
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,300
then they go, now we can take

1126
01:48:58,300 --> 01:49:05,480
the buses or the transit centers where they're focused and bring them back to Barrett.

1127
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,060
So that's a good thing.

1128
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:14,090
Share the BR1s like pools.

1129
01:49:14,750 --> 01:49:18,070
The measures are going to be growing, we hope so.

1130
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,260
In terms of affordable housing, it's a 15% component.

1131
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:31,060
And it's very important to us that those 15% of the units are mixed in evenly in all

1132
01:49:31,060 --> 01:49:31,480
the buildings.

1133
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:42,120
It would build the first one with none and it would be more affordable and it would be more

1134
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,700
feel and be no different than the first

1135
01:49:48,660 --> 01:49:50,980
water approvals I think you're seeking

1136
01:49:50,980 --> 01:49:52,900
I don't think we have an answer.

1137
01:49:56,260 --> 01:49:58,460
Site visits with the plans that's a great idea.

1138
01:49:59,020 --> 01:50:02,980
We'll schedule that when it's appropriate and the art component

1139
01:50:02,980 --> 01:50:09,940
I said about the fun stuff for kids you know some stuff needs to be serious and permanent

1140
01:50:09,940 --> 01:50:14,420
and you know real art and some stuff needs to be fun and temporary.

1141
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:19,370
We're interested in expanding on it a bit,

1142
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:22,280
Timis.

1143
01:50:22,900 --> 01:50:30,140
But the only thing I could add is Commissioner Mark's concern about architecture a lot in there.

1144
01:50:30,900 --> 01:50:46,470
The intent level in trying to get a process done, we included that to give you an idea of our long-term vision because we want you to understand that architecture and variety is important to us.

1145
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:58,580
We are going to be preparing a set of design guidelines that will be submitting shortly here that will give us kind of some guideposts to how it will be at this stage or what the architecture will be.

1146
01:50:58,780 --> 01:51:05,100
So, focusing as you asked for on the site plan, traffic, circulation, all those are very critical at this stage.

1147
01:51:05,620 --> 01:51:15,060
Remember that all of these sites will then go through another layer of review and approval process as we develop and design those units and do a site plan development permit,

1148
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:28,560
which is where you get into the needy gritty of storm water control and actual access points and design of architecture and setbacks and all those things that are critical in nature at that stage of development and design.

1149
01:51:29,420 --> 01:51:32,280
I think we're on the same page and I appreciate that. Thank you.

1150
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:33,100
On

1151
01:51:35,790 --> 01:51:44,210
behalf of my dad and I and our whole company live, we really wanted to thank you again for your time tonight and we would work hard to work on this together.

1152
01:51:44,450 --> 01:51:46,290
Thank you for all the efforts you put in.

1153
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:49,810
Seeing no other business ban clerk.

1154
01:51:51,610 --> 01:51:53,010
Item five adjourned.

1155
01:51:53,230 --> 01:51:54,150
Is there a motion to adjourn?

1156
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:57,290
Those in favor signify by leaving.

1157
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:02,280
Well done.