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All right.

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Matthew.

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» Yes sir.
>> Slideshows put together as well.

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» Okay.
>> And also have some of this. This is

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referenced in slideshow but I just
wanted to give everyone a copy like to

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see it
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Davis. She's also helping me.

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» So we uh we operate Mid Point home
dealership on the floor next to Walmart.

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We do sell homes. We're also uh June 1st
we're going to be here. We're going for

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proposed development um to annex into
the city, but we'll talk about that June

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1st. But before that meeting, I wanted
to kind of bring some awareness to uh

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roof pitch and potentially request a
roof pitch variance uh at that time for

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that development. So, I just wanted to
go through this uh slideshow with you.

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Uh the purpose of our development is to
create uh quality affordable housing,

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support working families and retirees,
increase local home ownership

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opportunities, and develop an
attractive, well-maintained

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neighborhood. Our request is approval of
a 312 roof pitch variance in place of

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the current 412 roof pitch requirement.
Our goal is to reduce or is not to

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reduce quality. Our goal is to keep
homes attainable for local residents

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while still maintaining an attractive de
development.

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Uh wanted to focus on housing
affordability. You know, it continues to

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rise. Increased construction costs
affect first-time home buyers, young

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families, retirees on a fixed income.
Workforce housing availability.

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uh ev every additional construction
requirement directly impacts monthly

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mortgage payments, buyer qual
qualification ability, and overall

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affordability.

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This here, I just outlined uh kind of
some key differences between 312 and 412

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roof systems. You can see in the picture
there, not a huge difference in the

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pitch. Uh with the 312, there is lower
construction cost. It's easier

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transportation. The manufactured homes
do travel down the road. That's part of

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transport. Uh reduced installation
expense and it also maintains an

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attractive appearance. With 412 roof
pitches, it requires a hinged roof

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system, which I'll have a picture of
that demonstrate what that is.

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Basically, it's transported with a flat
roof and then when it gets to the job

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site, the roof has to be hinged up to
give a higher pitch. Um, with that there

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is higher cost in manufacturing,
increased setup labor and additional

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on-site construction required.
Another representation of the difference

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between a 312 and a 412 roof pitch.
312 roof pitch home with the dormers.

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412 roof pitch home without the dormers.
Why I have those pictures I think it's

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referenced in the next slide
with a

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RA or here's construction of a raised
roof system. So basically once it gets

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the job site
there's a 412 it does have a a higher

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pitch. Also that picture is a what they
call a kind of a a shotgun or front

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loader home. So that is it's not square
long ways you know it's more of a you

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also you know part of that figure is you
know the type of home you know instead

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of being long ways it's shown ways but
does have hinge roof transport system

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additional labor crew uh roof lifting
after delivery extensive finish work on

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site and the result is a substantially
higher total housing cost for homeowners

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and I wanted to note that these are not
these costs are not luxury upgrades they

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are transport and installation expenses
that ultimately increase the price

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families must pay for this home.

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Attached, which I'll give you copies of,
um, is the quotes from the manufacturer

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showing the cost of a 412 roof pitch and
the installation cost of that same 412

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roof system.
And that's the pictures of those

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attachments on the next slide
which I have they're blown up in your

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hands to kind of show the the additional
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anywhere we're looking from probably 15
to 20,000 in additional cost versus a

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312 to a 412 roof per per home which you
know it might not sound like a lot but

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when you break it down to someone
starting out it goes to a monthly

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payment I mean that could be the
difference of having it

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» 15 to 20,000 depending on the style of
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» yeah I call Clayton Homes and I ask them
that same question which is in

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Milligville
>> and they have a 412 which is on the lot

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now and it's called the Ty Elite
>> and they told me I said what's the

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difference they said between 30 between
2500 and 3500 for the raised roof.

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» Let me ask you let me ask you a question
though. Yes ma'am.

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» Now when you do the mobile home roof
>> is it made with standard 2x4 truss?

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» It it all depends on that price sheet.
It could be 2x4 or 2x6 truss.

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» But the standard uh mobile home cuz I
went to visit them and did my research

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too.
>> Yes, ma'am.

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» That made with a 2 by two.
>> We don't have any 2 x2 trusses. No,

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ma'am.
>> And there is a difference in

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a 312 and a 412 even with the bracing on
the roof. I talked to an engineer about

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it as well.
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» And there is a difference with the
bracing as well. Now, we for a long time

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the city of Sandersville allowed 312,
>> but then when we had a 312 roof mobile

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home next to a stick built house and it
didn't match up.

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» Mhm. So, do you think it's fair that we
have a requirement from the

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international building code that if I
wanted to build a home next to yours

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that I would have to use a certain type
of material and have a minimum, Ben,

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wherever he is, Ben knows he would not
give me the approval unless it was a 412

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pitch. So, do you think that somebody
that can put something next to me should

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have a less requirement in
qualifications on that property than I

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would have to?
>> So, I'm not coming here to change city

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code. That's not the reason of me
bringing this information in this, you

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know, to your attention.
>> You said this property located that you

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want to make this.
>> We want to annex this into the city. All

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right. It's adjacent to city property
that already has manufactured homes on

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it and there is no adjacent property
that has a 412 roof pitch or city homes

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that are stick built and we're looking
to do a manufactured housing development

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specifically for manufactured homes. So
there wouldn't be any stick built homes

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next to this. As a matter of fact, this
adjacent only county property and then

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R3 zoning next to us that has
manufactured homes and I didn't build

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them, but looking at them, they look to
have 312 roof pitches because they were

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annexed into the city.
>> Yeah, most of them most of the ones that

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come out do have a 312, but years ago
when we had um manufacturer

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representatives come in when we was
going over the change.

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» Yes, ma'am. they came in and they
explained everything to us probably more

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in depth than you are
>> and um we decided to go with a minimum

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coming into the city and I before 12 if
you have a double wide mobile home now

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there's so many cities I talked to one
of my council friends over in Grey

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Georgia county they don't even allow
double wides at all in their city so

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really it's a blessing that we're even
allowing it in the city limits at this

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point because so many communities are
going away from even allowing single

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wide or double wides inside their city
limits.

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» Yes, ma'am. I understand.
>> And also, we had quite a few people that

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came into our council meeting um
individuals that wanted a 312 pitch and

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we denied it. So, there's no way that I
can sit here and give you a special

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exception to bring in even if you're
bringing in a subdivision.

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» Yes, ma'am. um to bring in the 312. I
think that we started with our 412

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pitch. That's the ordinance in which we
started with and we shouldn't we

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shouldn't make any changes in it.
>> Okay. In addition, uh just touch on what

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you said. You said you talked to Clayton
and the home itself, it could only cost

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you said 2500. There is a hinge roof up
there that's a 29.25. This is from Cavco

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built out of Moltry, Georgia. And that
is correct. The price of that 412 is

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only 29.25. Same thing with the Clayton
cost. But what they're not telling you

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is the additional installation cost. And
this is a certified installer price

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sheet next to us. You see a 32 uh wide
uh home set up and delivered 6500. If

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you add the raised roof to it, it's
additional 4,000. Then you have a gable

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ends which is on either side. You can
have a gable ends on that raised roof.

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It's a,000 per inch. So now we're
talking at 12,500 in additional to that.

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You're talking about additional um
insulation that has to go in there

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because of the roof.
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» I understand that. But when you came in
and you immediately and I looked at some

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of the council members faces when you
said 15 or $20,000, they're thinking

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that's just the difference in the roof
pitch, which that information wasn't

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correct.
>> It was the additional things that have

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to go in there have to go in there
because of the raised pitch, but not the

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pitch itself. it. But it's all as one.
You can't have the raised pitch without

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those additional costs. You understand
what I'm saying? Like if you brought

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that totally
>> 2500 additional charge, you're gonna

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have a house sitting there with a flat
roof that's still got to be raised.

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» So it's not a final product. The final
cost is anywhere from 15 to 20,000.

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That's what I was trying to explain. I
wasn't trying to mislead anyone. That's

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why I have the two price sheets side by
side and I give you all a copy of both

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with with the prices highlighted. So I
just wanted to clarify that. How many

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houses are you looking at putting in
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» We have 33 lots.
>> Okay.

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» 33 lots. And like I said, we can discuss
that more, you know, on June 1st when

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we're on the docket there.
>> Um, but man, I just like to at least get

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through the slideshow prepared before we
finish.

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» And all of them will be what you're
asking on that particular 33 lots that

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all of them be 312.
>> That's what I would I would like to go

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in with an, you know, a variance to be
able to allow the 12.

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» One of this, one of that, one of this,
one of

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» I like the whole the whole community
kind of, you know, the aesthetically

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pleasing and similar. You know, I
wouldn't ask something of the neighbor

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that, you know, this person wasn't, you
know, you know, forced to do.

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» We are. Yes, sir. On June 1st. Yes. So,
we're on the docket. Um, moving forward

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now, not all the men who are going going
back, there is a dorma conflict. Now,

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this isn't on every home, but the larger
home. So, if you want a fourbedroom or

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fivebedroom home, which you know, a lot
of a lot of families are looking for

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that, you know, have homes, a lot of
kids, you have to go to a 32 wide house,

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talking the double wide um size
requirements. When you go to a 412 roof

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system, they the manufacturers will not
build a 32 wide home. Now, this is just

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a larger home. It's not a smaller home
with a 412 roof that also has dormers.

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So you will not be able to have a 412
roof pitch on a 32 wide house. So we're

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talking a four or five bedroomedroom
home with also having a dormer which is

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you know a dormer I think I have some
pictures of it is an aesthetic that is

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also required in the city in the city
code. So it kind of conflicts with the

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larger home. Now we can't do a
three-bedroom home 412 roof pitch

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additional cost but we have dors
>> are those dormers that way so you can

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put the cover Porsche on it. Is that
what that is?

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» Some and some are just for aesthetics.
Uh I think I have a picture of some

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» requirement.
>> It's a city requirement

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» to have a dormer
>> to have a dormer. Yes, sir.

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» Dormer or a bay window. So like So that
is a dormer.

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» Yeah.
>> But don't you have to have is it a

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covered porch?
>> There is a covered porch. Yes, sir.

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Yeah, there's a covered porch ordinance.
There's also a dormer ordinance. So I

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don't
>> you know if you need a dormer and

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covered porch or the covered porch I
don't know. I'm not that would be a

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a planning department question.
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after this I just and I don't even know
whose home it is but I'm gonna tell you

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about it because it's a compliment to
them but when you're leaving your house

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and you're going back down in Tabby and
you get popppler hang a right by the

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body shop somebody's really I think that
house burned or something

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» and it really looks good I mean they've
got it set up the front porch my concern

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is basically your your masonary
permanent underpinning

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» um that you have those porches those
porches

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» that you um have the lot sizes and the
setbacks.

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» Absolutely.
>> I I think that's the density

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um of manufacturing homes is what can
really harm you when you cram so needy

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in there and create some density. I I'm
not really I I think definitely the 4oot

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looks better from an aesthetical
standpoint, but the 312 versus the 412

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is not a big issue for me. My big issue
is those other factors. Uh and and even

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you could go back to PNZ and possibly
>> I don't even know structure of 412 only

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in certain um certain zonings like R1
has to be 42, you know, 42.

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» That's kind of my thoughts on it. We've
been sitt

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» or if you're R3, you could do a 312.
>> We've been sitting here talking about

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trying to get affordable housing
affordable housing. I agree. We need we

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need to stay with 412, but in certain
areas like this isolated

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might not be the right word, but
everything's going to be the same.

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» But that's still not fair.
>> It's still not fair because I mean, if

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you're going to turn around and just
because he's putting all of them in one

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spot.
>> Yeah.

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» Versus somebody that's putting one on a
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» has to be four.
>> There's no way around it. That's the

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minimum.
>> You can't do a flat roof anymore, I

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guess. Oh, you could do one, but you
have to have what they have like gutters

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around in order to make sure that the
water and then inside that flat roof has

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to still have to have a little arch root
so the water can run and have a draining

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system.
>> But again, it's still not right that

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we're denying somebody that's doing a
single family just because he wants to

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do 30 units. Now, sure, we do need
housing. What's the average cost of that

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house that you want to put in that
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» Uh the finished product will be anywhere
from 180 to 200,000 somewhere that fall

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apart.
>> Whereas if we're going to raise roof,

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we're going to be over 200,000
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» Okay. Good. Just where I want you to be.
>> We can find builders cuz I talked to one

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and a developer. She called me and she
said with these homes because she

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thought the guy that was doing the the
what is it? The town houses. She spoke

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with him about the prices and all that
kind of stuff and she wants to come and

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talk to the city and saying that the
$200,000 mark for a double wide mobile

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home. And hey, let's if we all want to
be honest and be truthful, you know,

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just like that car I paid all that money
for, a a mobile home depreciates in

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value.
And just like I told the woman, I said,

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"If we're talking and the mayor sitting
here saying about we need the housing,

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but we also need generational wealth
where I'm not just building this unit

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just for me, but my son can come by
later and use that same property and and

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make and make some money off of it."
>> I understand. So, what I'm saying is

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there's a place, there's some people
that want to buy it, but if you want to

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be in the city of Sandersville, I don't
believe we as a council should turn

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around and lower the standard of what we
said that we was going to do after all

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this conversation just because you
saying that we need housing. Yeah, we

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need housing. And there's people out
there that will build build a $200,000

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house. They just need the land to build
a house on. Right, Susan?

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» Hold on. Now there is a report and I
don't want to get into it now because I

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don't have all the details but uh
manufactured housing did appreciate more

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than uh single family residential
housings and that was a report by

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realtor.com they put out just to show
you and I'm in the trade so obviously I

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read these things that come across my
feed but that that's a that's a fact

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that that's happened the past couple
years. Um just just throwing it out

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there.
>> Yeah. I had a brother-in-law that bought

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a mobile home for almost $200,000
and he just got it paid off. and turned

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around and he told my husband and I he
went to go borrow money because he was

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going to buy a fancy car loan and guess
what? It wasn't worth but $50,000.

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» Well, it's a the difference if you have
it a fixed to the property or not. If

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it's used all the title, you know, you
can surrender title on these things and

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they still become
>> I'm just showing you that it does not

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appreciate.
>> There's different ways to approach it.

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There is a fact.
>> Next, uh so okay, with this development

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like you mentioned, we still want to do
front porches. We still want to do the

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concrete masonry under uh underpinning.
They'll have the dormers. Um we plan on

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landscaping and have upgraded exterior
finishes kind of to make this

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aesthetically pleasing community.
Benefits of Sandersville. We've kind of

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touched on a few of them already. expand
affordable housing inventory, encourage

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responsible development, support local
economic growth, provide attainable home

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home ownership opportunities, and the
request requested variance supports

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affordability, practicality, and
long-term community growth.

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Uh, we respectfully ask zoning to
approve our 312 roof variance for the

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proposed manufactured home subdivision.
Most important message is the requested

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variance helps keeps homes affordable
without sacrificing appearance or

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neighborhood quality. And thank you for
your time and consideration.

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» All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you so much.

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» Thank you.
>> All right. Carson, you want to give a

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little a little update? Main Street.
Um last week we uh the mayor actually

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got notified that we have officially um
been recognized as a main street

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community again for the 2026 year. So we
are officially accredited community. Um

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DDA has lots of plans. We have our
training um this Thursday um and um some

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hotel talk as well. So a lot going on um
that we're getting excited about.

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» Did you get a chance to update my
>> I saw your email. I didn't really know

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what that was about.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You sent me um the May 29th

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um cleanup for my district and to change
the date.

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» I thought you read that other one.
>> I was going to call you later.

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» Yeah, but I need that this evening so I
can go ahead and get

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» Thank y'all.
>> Thank you.

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» 29th. No, they had it on

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everybody.

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Okay.
I had in my CIP uh to uh do some

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pressure washing on our clear wells and
kind of clean them out, get all the

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sediment and stuff out. And uh I know I
kind of touched on uh USG, you know,

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they handle all our tank maintenance and
have been for the past 15 or so years.

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Um, they had put together a quote for
us. Uh, now they the the tanks, uh, I

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don't know if y'all been out and looked
at any of them, but they they in dire

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need of of a good a good rehab, a good
wash down, a good paint. U, we got some

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cracking going on.
So, um, I reached out to Lee Smallwood

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here and got him to get us get us
something together as far as a a

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maintenance plan for
>> tanks. This is exterior.

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» Yeah, this is this will be uh interior
and exterior.

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» So, I guess you're talking about the
raised elevated tanks, hospital road,

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Kin Road, and the pedestphere tank.
>> They're already doing those. These are

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the clear wells. Is that the treatment
plant?

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>> like in furn.

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» That's right.
>> But the thing about the whales, you

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know, you get sediment and that sediment
builds up in the bottom of those tanks

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because they don't never get drained.
>> Okay.

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» And uh and it starts causing water
quality problems, you know, throughout

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the city, you know, with sand, silt,
>> dirty water, you know, those type of

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problems. So, um, and it's it's really
more than than we can do, you know,

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because when you go in those tanks, it's
got to be disinfected and, you know,

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everything's got to be, you know, done
right. So, and that's what they do.

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Attachment E. I don't see a a cost. I
mean, it's only

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» So, it's um broken down if you'll see
behind. I don't know if it's clear what

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I'm talking about.
>> Four of them.

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» It's broken down on the very last page
is the maintenance plan.

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» Eh, it's the very last page.
>> And I will say um in the budget, we did

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not budget quite enough to start it this
year. Of course, we can make amend the

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budget going forward. Um so that's why
of course we put on the agenda because

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it would be a new contract and it's
something that we did.

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We wouldn't be way over budget though. I
don't think we just didn't budget quite

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enough.
>> So the total is the 173 23

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» 27,000 for this year.
>> See it's it's by year.

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» Oh, okay.
>> Another page.

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» It's the very last page. I'm sorry on E.
It's the very last

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» very last.
>> Uhhuh.

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» So it would be a maintenance agreement
annually. However, Kenan is reviewing

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the contract, so he's going to have to
make some changes, but this would be

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annually. Correct. So we we don't have
to stick to it if we don't want to. We

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can get out within so many days. Can't
remember exactly. Contract said 90 days.

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» Yeah. So you're not committed.
>> So you're saying annually pay this 20

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something thousand. Now though the raise
tanks that they come in and they paint

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and they clean out. That's like a
fiveyear deal, isn't it?

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» It's an annual service as well.
>> Yeah.

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» But you're not doing any painting or
anything like that on

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» Yeah. They keep up the paint
just where there's chip in that thing.

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That's not the whole entire thing.
>> We paint them on cycles. It's 8 to 10

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years usually on the next year cycle.
Concrete it's a little less. It usually

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go 78 years. And that's why the the
South's newer. That's why we push that.

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» Yeah. But I see I see y'all going up
that and washing it, especially the one

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on Hospital Road. But I don't see the
white paint going on. I guess that's

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when I went inside.
>> We've done it. I think the hospital

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works about two years ago.
I thought so.

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» Mhm. Was it this year
>> the disparity um with your your peaks

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like in 27 and 29 it's 312 and 433
but appears that the work's the same.

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Huh. Well, it appears that there's
something

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» we pushed to try to make defendant the
budget. We pushed the work that South

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tank year three and so see if you see
the first two years only $2,000 a year.

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That's just pay for the inspection cost.
And then that's that's why they're not

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all the same at the bottom because you
sort out when it goes up to 14,000

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when it goes out to year 2000.
>> Oh, I

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» 2032 was 21.
>> So 27 and 29, but it says visual

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inspection report and then 29 says
visual inspection report 14 and two. So

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you must going to be do something in 29
different from 27. Mhm.

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» Basically in a nutshell though, you're
paying you're just spreading out those

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upfront fees to get the upfront work
completed to clean the trays outside the

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tank and to paint them. That's what
you're paying for like over the first

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five years. And then when that comes
down, then you're just paying the base

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fee of 20 8516 annually. So that next
time we paint them like in year I showed

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it on
>> 2032 when they get the three of them get

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painted on the outside. Yeah.
>> You're still paying the same fee like

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the fee almost drops.
>> So basically you just pay a maintenance

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fee as you go along. That way you don't
have to pay the big whammo every six,

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seven, eight years, 10 years when you
paint. Does

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» that make sense?
>> Well,

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» I'm I'm I'm slow to go.
>> No, I just I just don't understand that.

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Okay, you're going to do it for 27 this
year,

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» right?
>> You're going to jump up, which 31 isn't

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that much more, but jumping up to the 43
in the year three and then there's not

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that much difference. And when you say
that you're taking some of the whammy

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out from the first initial, if you
didn't take the whammy out, what would

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be the first initial painting?
>> The reason it's different is if you look

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at 2000, the South Plank clear well
tank, the first one, when that next year

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is painted in 2028 and that you're
paying 14,000, you go up from 2 to 14,

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it goes up that $12,000, you start
paying that 14,000 for five years. So

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it's about
>> Hold on, give me a second on this one.

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But but what I was questioning the 29
looks like you went back to what you did

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in 27
>> at that south plant according to the

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green dot
>> 2020 you're doing Yes sir you're doing

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we're doing inspection every year the
green the green is visual inspection

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blue is wash out and yellow's
>> paintwork but so the exterior renovation

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visual inspection report is 14131
>> so

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» and then the very next year it went back
to a visual inspection report for 143.

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» You're not paying the 14131 is not the
cost of just the exterior renovation in

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year three. The 2028 the the actual
total cost of renovation is spread out

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in year 28. That 14131 29 30 31 32. So
those five years you're spreading out

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the cost of that upfront renovation. So
the upfront renovation is actually 5*

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410,000.
>> So you're allowing that to go. Oh

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» just a yearly maintenance plan.
>> You're almost amateurizing.

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They'll come in and paint all the tanks,
but you'll pay for it over a period of

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time.
>> You have over five years.

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» It makes it easier for cities to get
into the contr

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you're just paying the base fees,
maintenance fees, so to speak, that's

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when like now with elevated tanks,
that's when it's easier for the city

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because the elevated tanks would be
you're talking $150,000 to maintain

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those.
>> So, it's a concrete tank's easier, but

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it's still a cost.
>> That's it.

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» So, the the 28 cost is far more than the
141. Yeah,

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» you're just allowing it to carry over in
the subsequent two years.

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» It's the same as the year one 11580.
>> We're just trying to get it under that

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year one budget on here the 20 whatever
the budget was. We're trying to get it

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under that number. Why the fees are all
kind of weird the first few years?

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» Okay.
>> And why are all the firm crash the north

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plant and north plant 2? Why are those
all visual inspections for the 2026? Cuz

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they've been like not looked at or
something. Those are all extra

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renovations in 2026. The front crest
actually we're painting cleaning the

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paint every one of those things. They
never the two behind the the his office

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have never been painted at all. The
front crest tank was painted I think

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when it was built has never been painted
since then. And the south tank was

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painted when it was built. So that was
good shape.

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» I'm trying to remember Mr. Robert was
there when that was built

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» two years ago.
>> They pushed it out in 2028.

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» Uhhuh.
Right.

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» And this do you still have to have all
inspections looking for the screens EPD

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Daniel the sanitary surveys they have to
go through?

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» Right.
>> It makes it easier on him just to be

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able to give him a report and
inspections and see everything.

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» They say this was next year
everything

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» I had something else. Uh
item number number nine.

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» Sotion

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to award a bid of 27,000
160.

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Incorporated for the watershed
protection plan um sampling. I know

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David kind of spoke on it here.

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» Yeah. Back in January, uh we knew it was
coming down the line. Uh so we reached

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out to a company and u they was offering
to come to Sandersville and do our uh

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sampling for us.
>> How often do you have to do that?

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» This will be um
>> this is a state requirement or federal?

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» Yeah, it's a federal
>> and it's done. I'm hoping I'm hoping

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that that it'll kind of scale down, you
know, once they get the results, you

410
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,000
know, from this first test, then they'll
send you a sample plan.

411
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:27,360
» You know, the last time you was good on
these, so let's let's do these.

412
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,240
» What was the last time?
>> This is this is a whole new

413
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:39,440
discharge of the treatment. Well, it's
kind it's kind of a umbrella under storm

414
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,919
water.
>> Yeah. You remember you said in January

415
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,919
that it was coming down the
>> pipeline

416
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:59,960
» just to see how
impacts it

417
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:08,480
but there's a lot there's a lot to it
there's a biological side and there's a

418
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:15,440
chemical side of it right I mean they
collect They collect uh things like fish

419
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:23,120
and microorganisms and snails and and
all that and keep them alive and uh and

420
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,799
go in and analyze
all

421
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:32,559
» and Alex remind me I know turnup seed
got this board but why didn't we get

422
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:38,799
on this
>> after talking to David um this is kind

423
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:44,080
of the people that that they're do that
David has got he's got other communities

424
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:47,679
he's looking after and they're
>> I would still get another bid cuz I mean

425
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:51,360
you just get you get pigeon holed into
one bid and I mean I don't care if it is

426
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:56,559
turnup seed I think we still need to get
at least two bits

427
00:31:53,600 --> 00:32:00,279
» probably would be bad
>> a minimum that's right

428
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,480
» are we working timeline here on this
>> uh just by the

429
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120
You got

430
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,080
to get two at least one. Thank you.

431
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,960
» Good afternoon. How are you today? fun.

432
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:42,799
» So, I've got um give you all an update
real quick on uh building and zoning and

433
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:51,840
code enforcement what we've had going on
since January. Um

434
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:58,159
we've issued out u 71 permits since um
January 1st. 50 of those have been

435
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:03,200
inspected and closed and approved. Uh 21
still open on um the code enforcement

436
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:06,519
side.
We have

437
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:17,039
25
dilapidated house unfit structures. Um

438
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:23,519
open uh citations have been issued on
some of those and more issu citations

439
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:28,000
will be going out in uh the next week or
two. So, we've been been kind of busy

440
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:30,880
trying to keep everything get everything
cleaned up.

441
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,320
» And I can email y'all that report. I
didn't make copies of that report. I'll

442
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:42,240
email it to you.
>> Um, so then I have on the agenda

443
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:47,480
is
attachment.

444
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,480
» So, we're attached.

445
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:58,640
» What number? B, which is the complaint
509 Street.

446
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:04,799
» All right. So, Bridge Street, um,
they're requesting a special exception

447
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:12,399
for the 312 roof pitch. Um, and that
they turned in a floor plan. It's a they

448
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:17,119
meet every other um setback
requirements. They're going to do the

449
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:21,280
masonry foundation, the uh covered front
porch. They met all of those. They're

450
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,679
just asking for that.
>> Have they purchased the Milwaukee yet?

451
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,280
» No.
>> Okay.

452
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:32,560
» PNZ say
>> PNZ did uh approve it.

453
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:40,159
» They approved it with the 312.
>> PNZ once had approved it pending the um

454
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:44,240
» 412.
412.

455
00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:50,000
» PNC said 412
>> with the contingency that it was a 412.

456
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:55,119
Look what PN said on
>> what's the difference you and I talking

457
00:34:52,320 --> 00:35:01,359
what's the difference between 312
>> one inch and 12 ft money

458
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:06,400
» the money uh it's going to be about the
same that Mr. Bang was talking about

459
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:11,040
it's going to be, you know, $25,000
roughly on the difference between the

460
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:15,200
setup. Uh what was the height again? You
just say that the difference

461
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:19,040
» the difference in a 312 and a 412 is 1
in and 12 ft. So one inch per 12T. Oh, I

462
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,000
understand.
>> So a 28 foot wide would be two two 14t

463
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:30,079
halves. It'll be an inch and a half per
side between 312 and 412.

464
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:34,240
Mobile Homes roofing doesn't it doesn't
even have the same 412. I talked to

465
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,599
engineers
>> they their 312 pitch has a 2 by two that

466
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:45,440
they break in half and they put it
together on site with the metal clips. A

467
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:51,680
standard home has to have a minimum if
it's um trust engineered you can use a

468
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:57,680
412 because it's an engineered
structured unit. But if not, you have to

469
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:02,480
have a 2x6 that is built through. And
again, I'll say the same thing. The

470
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,480
modular home, mobile home has not been
purchased at this time. These are the

471
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,480
rules and regulations. I know you
continuously bring us this same thing

472
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:16,400
because they have the right
>> but once planned zoning had denied it.

473
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Um why you're back, I don't know.
>> Um but

474
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:23,599
» because that's the rules that
>> we we heard this one though.

475
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,160
» No, ma'am. We are this one with the last
one, didn't we?

476
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,440
» This one, they weren't on the last.
>> They wasn't on the last one, but a

477
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:35,440
single summon on the same street anyway.
But anyway, if they want to do it,

478
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:42,400
that's fine. But what I pray that Ben is
doing because we set this policy and

479
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:47,200
they have the right true enough to come.
But I sent you

480
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:54,800
10 mobile home manufacturers that have
on the ground 412 pitch roofs and they

481
00:36:51,920 --> 00:37:00,320
fall within that price range that the
young man that just left here they fall

482
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:04,320
in that same price range. So um when
they come to you since this is new when

483
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,200
they come to you are you actually
telling them that the policy is blas

484
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,160
blas that you have to have 412
>> all the requirements.

485
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:16,880
» Okay. And do you say
>> package that

486
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:23,520
» good? Do you also say I'm not endorsing
any of these places, but they do have

487
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,680
412 on um on site because most of the
time when you come to city council and

488
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,200
you go to planning and zoning that
they're pretty much sticking with the

489
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,000
policy that has been set for is that
conversation going forward.

490
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,400
» I don't get involved in telling them
where they can and can't go because I

491
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,320
don't want that liability in my office.
It's not about telling them where where

492
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,079
they can't go. It's giving them options.
>> It's going to be just like me giving

493
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,040
them Mr. Jeffrey, Mr. Dennis, and Miss
Deborah. These are the people that can

494
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,480
do the work, but I'll leave out the rest
of you. I don't feel that's something my

495
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,040
office needs to do.
>> These are people that have 412 pitch on

496
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,920
lot,
>> right?

497
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:05,119
» So, they can go look anywhere they want,
but that some people that come to you

498
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:09,520
just need examples of places that they
can go. So,

499
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:14,320
That that just doesn't make sense to The
the issue is on this one they took two

500
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:18,720
lots and put them together made one lot
meet all set back side all that stuff

501
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,800
and you saying the difference about
$20,000

502
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:27,280
» roughly
>> to me I understand what made me say it I

503
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:33,920
understand about you know state 412
everywhere but I think that's the reason

504
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:39,520
you call in that area
some being torn down anything we put in

505
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:43,480
there whe 312 or Hopefully going to be
an improvement to the neighborhood

506
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,760
$20,000.
>> Yeah, cuz you believe in that $20,000

507
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,880
price and that credit $20,000 price
isn't right. So I could have told you it

508
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:59,720
was 50,000. You would have believed that
too. Huh?

509
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,720
» That's not true.

510
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:05,839
» Well, I still say that this council, we
already denied enough of them. and we

511
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:12,960
said that a policy we're here to set
policy not make uh accommodations and

512
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,240
this this policy has been set and that's
what we need to go about

513
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:23,520
» I'm just expressing my opinion
>> I know it's going to be a voter too what

514
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,400
» did um but you said PNZ approved it but
we had 412

515
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:32,280
» do the 412
>> so okay

516
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,280
» that's that's how what P&Z moved forward

517
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:39,359
» the next one I have is the one we tabled
last time when I called in the

518
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:47,520
annexation on North Anderson um by Mr.
Daniels. Um they went in and asked asked

519
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:52,240
to change their uh request from 10 lots
down to um

520
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:58,400
four lots.
Yeah, four lots. Um they are still

521
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:03,760
contiguous. They they've um went in and
reserveyed

522
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,520
um this uh Alex and I had a conversation
with Miss Hartley this morning about it

523
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:14,240
um and how to get water there. Uh it's
going to be water and sewage is going to

524
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:17,839
be pretty expensive. Um
>> yeah. So, Alex, you want to explain

525
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:22,320
about the two different ways for the
four there. You know, they first said 10

526
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,839
homes, so we thought we would go up
Anderson Drive with water and sewer. So,

527
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:32,320
we went ahead and got an estimate on
that and the estimate for both put us

528
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:37,040
approximately around 800,000.
>> 800,000.

529
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:41,760
» Yeah. But didn't we say bring everything
in? They gonna bring it in.

530
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:45,599
» Then there is another option. If they're
only doing four homes, we would only

531
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,680
have the cost of the taps because we
could pull the water, not sewer, but we

532
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:54,720
could pull the water down the ridge.
>> Yeah. Their driveway uh comes out on

533
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:58,240
Ridge Road there. Um, we could actually
do four tasks for the mobile homes and

534
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,760
» with just water alone.
>> With just water alone.

535
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:06,560
» Do they have 412 pitch?
>> They will be doing 412 pitch

536
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:10,000
» and I don't get into the housing part of
it.

537
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:13,839
» They initially asked for an exception on
two of them. So they said sent those

538
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:17,839
back and they're going to do all of
them.

539
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:24,079
» So So they're just just four lots and
you can serve them with four tabs. it it

540
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:30,319
will not grant access to water to the to
the lots not in the on Anderson Drive

541
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:32,319
that they're not bringing in. This only
grant them water to the four that

542
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,359
they're bringing.
>> That's right.

543
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:39,280
» And how much would that be?
>> Just the cost of

544
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,520
I'm with that.
>> Well, we when people are coming in Hey,

545
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,560
but that's true. But when people are
wanting to come into the city limits and

546
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,960
they just want to come in now, is this
going to be rental property or is it

547
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:55,839
going to be home ownership? land on. So
why don't why is me not bringing in the

548
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:58,560
whole the whole parcel?
>> Because if you bringing in four lots,

549
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,920
that's not helping out with tax base.
>> Well, I was going to say if we're going

550
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,520
to spend all that money for water,
>> which I don't do sewage anyway, they're

551
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:11,200
going to have to bring in the whole 10.
But if you can cut down the cost on that

552
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:14,800
and just add the four lots. What I
didn't want to do is spend How much is

553
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,480
just water to the entire 10 lots? Why
it's still like $200?

554
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:22,640
» Yeah. So if we were going to spend that,
I'd say you got to bring in the whole

555
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:26,400
10.
>> But now if you can eclipse that and

556
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,560
sewage is just something that we have to
deal with it down the road like we did

557
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,280
at
>> Walden Wood.

558
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:36,880
» Did you get clarification from them
then? Are they coming to the meeting to

559
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,720
discuss their plans?
>> And make sure too that um

560
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920
» I'll give the four lots if you can do it
that way.

561
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:48,640
» Piggybacking on you. So if so the the
lots that you talking about that's going

562
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:53,599
to be the four lots and it's just water
only not sewers.

563
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:58,480
» Okay. And that water the the taps that
are going in cannot be hijacked.

564
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,880
» That's what that was my question.
>> But you see what I'm saying where

565
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:07,040
somebody can turn around and they you
have the four lots. See y'all got to be

566
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,000
looking a little deeper than this. Y'all
y'all stay on.

567
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,599
» These will be separate household. It
doesn't matter

568
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:18,400
» if you put that meter on that property,
right? And they have a plumber, which

569
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,560
we've already gone through this process,
that can tap in to one of those taps,

570
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:29,599
even though it's not they're not
supposed to. It's illegal. Can they get

571
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:32,400
tap in and create a water uh service on
the other lots that are in the back?

572
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
That's my question.
>> Yeah. I mean, that that could go with

573
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,960
anybody.
>> From what I'm understanding, you're just

574
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,520
going to run it from Red Dra back.
You're not going to run it down around

575
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:43,599
the front of the
>> car meters will be on the rightway

576
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,160
» back on ridge
>> on ridge road

577
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:51,680
» and they got to run theirs back. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And they got

578
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:56,079
» driveway ement they own it.
>> Yeah. It's only four meters.

579
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,880
» Listen,000
for six more. If you annex in you won't

580
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,480
ever pay for that.
>> You may be required to provide folks if

581
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,079
you annex in. I need to go back and look
at the SDS. Like just

582
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,000
» the only time I thought we were required
was there was 100% annexation,

583
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,119
» right?
>> If you're annexing in the property,

584
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:21,520
they're going to be in the city limits.
I I would need to look at the SDS to see

585
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:24,880
what it says. Do you because normally
you have to provide water and sewer to

586
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:32,200
your
>> I think if this I'm surprised on that

587
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,200
because we can

588
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,240
» it would be in the ordinance. It' be in
the service delivery.

589
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:44,079
» I'm just wondering if that's forced
annexation versus volunteer.

590
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:48,319
» Well, let's take a little wait for legal
>> and for them to come for they're not

591
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:52,040
coming which they may come. I think I'm
not you have

592
00:44:52,560 --> 00:45:00,319
all
the table number six.

593
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,400
» All right.
You have anything?

594
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:08,319
» No.
>> So, the only other thing on the agenda

595
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:13,200
that we didn't mention was the um second
reason for the table of permitted uses

596
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:18,240
that allowed the special exception for
the Bitcoin data centers.

597
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,079
» Okay. The language. Yes, we have to read
it twice.

598
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:26,520
» Yeah, we don't have any new ones coming
in. We're just cleaning it up. So, if

599
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,520
anything should happen.

600
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,160
» Yeah, that's right.

601
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,560
» That's right.

602
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:49,520
» Well, I had something, but I'mma save it
for the next council meeting. But we do

603
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:54,800
have um May 29th we're having the uh
district one cleanup and the street that

604
00:45:52,000 --> 00:46:02,079
has been selected is Hind Street. So
we'll start at 9

605
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:08,800
um 9 until what did I say 12? 9 until
12. Um we'll be at the at the Christine

606
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:14,240
Harris Park. Now will the city be
providing um Gatorade water for all the

607
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:15,920
volunteers that come up? We provide
Carson. What did you provide to the

608
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,720
wife?
>> They just got trash bags in the picker

609
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:22,160
upper thing.
>> Well, we need to give them some water

610
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:28,359
cuz it's hot. It's only 90 degrees.
Gatorade and water. Just get a cooler

611
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,359
and bring it on up there.

612
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:34,240
» Okay.
>> Only thing I'm getting a lot of

613
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:39,440
complaining about the um breakwood where
the school zone start and stop

614
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,359
» and um and it is going over the
weekends. The only weekend cuz I went to

615
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,280
church yesterday. That's the way I go by
prayer. And those lights, those uh

616
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:51,040
lights are still flashing, giving you
what speeds on. This on a Sunday night.

617
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,280
I went to church. I left home about
1:00. I came back from church around 4

618
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,000
and they still they were still on.
>> They're not writing tickets. So, they're

619
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,240
just making you
>> see people thinking that they are.

620
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,160
That's what they're afraid of because
they thinking that once they see that

621
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:07,599
light, the flashing lights that will
actually signify when the flashing

622
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:10,319
lights on top of that sign, they'll be
flashing when it's in.

623
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,920
» It always gives you
>> But it's always going to give you Even

624
00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:17,040
on the weekends all kind of like a
hospital.

625
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,880
» Okay. One thing we do too, we need to
give them the time zone because a lot of

626
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,160
people don't know the time zone comes on
and go off. See, they they get confused

627
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,359
with that especially Monday through
Friday. They'll get very confused which

628
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:33,040
start at 7 8 and end at 910. They'll get
very confused especially when you

629
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:37,040
» So that's on that same sign. I'll just
take a picture of it and send it to you

630
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:42,720
so you'll know what to tell them. The
sign says,

631
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:46,640
» so the sign does say the time that it's
like say for instance 9 to 3 is when it

632
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:52,480
being clocked. But even though it shows
the it shows the speed, if they're going

633
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:55,839
over excess speed, will it still clock a
ticket?

634
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,560
» Okay. So what you have is the school's
own hours.

635
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:06,119
» Yeah.
>> Schools on hours at 25 miles.

636
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,119
speed limit.

637
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:15,839
» So it doesn't matter. It's still
>> during the school hours,

638
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:19,400
» right?
>> Yes. Only during

639
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:27,119
» only to the hours that are posted
>> and I know I know like going toward that

640
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:31,520
is no uh time there, but on the opposite
side coming off from the fall line is a

641
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:35,680
time. One side have the time on the
other side don't have the time.

642
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,240
» Okay.
>> That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

643
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Because like when you go toward the
schoolhouse, there's nothing there. But

644
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:49,359
you coming back from the school off in
the off in the line got you got one. You

645
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:55,520
only got let know coming off the ball
line coming toward you.

646
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:58,640
» I noticed that too. So that so in and
with everything being said if you're

647
00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:04,000
going over the speed you're going to get
a ticket whether the school is open or

648
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:08,319
not right? No, no, only during those
hours. You're all the speed will always

649
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:10,000
flash no matter time of day. It runs 20.
>> Well, I can understand what the chief

650
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,640
said.
>> Chief is only during those hours.

651
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,960
» And you have to go 11%
>> 110 after. But I'm saying after those

652
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,319
hours, if you're going 11 over will you
be?

653
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,800
» No. No.
>> Okay.

654
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:28,720
» Only during
weird hours 7:08 to 80.

655
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:36,160
» Hey Chief. Chief, if you if it's if it's
if you go over that that 11 miles an

656
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:40,599
hour over when it's past that time, will
you still get a ticket is my question.

657
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,480
» Outside of the hours,

658
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:55,760
you know, you called me, Dia called me
about that.

659
00:49:52,880 --> 00:50:02,480
» I got ticketed at 11.
something in the day. I understood that

660
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:06,400
it was from the 701 to 801 and the 309
to 409. You see what I'm saying? So, are

661
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:12,200
we only going to get a ticket during
that time or you'll get it all day

662
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,200
during that?

663
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:17,920
» Yeah. So, that's what I didn't
understand because I know what you had

664
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,200
told me about when you got your ticket.
So, I didn't know if it was active

665
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:26,079
outside those hours.
>> That's why I picked to do a hearing cuz

666
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:33,599
I'm confused. That's why I brought up so
many people still complaining about

667
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:40,000
» again positively during those students
on hours

668
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:43,119
go over 11 miles or you will be
>> so 11.

669
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:47,280
» Let me double check outside of those
hours so I can have

670
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,400
» and and even on the weekend Saturday and
Sunday you should get a ticket, right?

671
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,400
So you got a ticket on a Saturday at
11:00 a.m.

672
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,040
» No, it was
>> it was school day

673
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:59,920
» March 6 or something. Yes.
>> So it was your school hours. So

674
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:03,040
» but outside of those posted hours
>> that was confusing.

675
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,800
» So it was outside of 8 and 3.
>> It was 11 to 3

676
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,319
» 11 something in the day.
>> So it

677
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,880
was one hour in the morning.
>> That's what I thought.

678
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,880
» That's what it's posted. Yeah.
>> Those two times I took pictures of

679
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:23,960
everything. What needs to happen?
Somebody needs to say this during the

680
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:23,960
whole school day.

681
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:33,720
» It does ticket you for one less than if
you're the speed limit. If you go one

682
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,720
mile over

683
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:41,680
two
and it was not

684
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,160
» it doesn't matter how fast you going. If
you're going over that speed limit, it's

685
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:54,079
going to send you a ticket. And it's
also I received one and I actually

686
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:56,880
called I received one on a Saturday.
>> See that was my question. Is it

687
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,319
happening on the weekend as well?
>> Yes, it is. It's happening on the

688
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:01,319
weekend.

689
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:24,359
No, I I'll make a mention. I was going
to introduce my preacher time.

690
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,680
» It needs to stay down. duration.

691
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:18,319
» All right. about five I think we closed
up. We go ahead and call our meeting as

692
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:26,720
you know for the month of May, June and
July 26th anniversary country

693
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:31,559
council member bring in a local pastor
to lead us in the pledge. So this week

694
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:43,200
no June June and July.
>> Yeah. I'll ask Jared Middleton if he'll

695
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:49,200
come up here and Chris would you join us
too. Uh for those that you don't if you

696
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:54,000
don't know Jared Jared is the pastor of
Sandersville Methodist Church. He's my

697
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:57,000
pastor. I'm partial,
but

698
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:05,119
he might be on there.
Anyway, I appreciate uh Jared coming

699
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:11,280
here. If you don't know him, he's got a
beautiful wife, Robin, and a son Caleb

700
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:16,079
and a son Jesse. Rising 12th graders,
rising freshman or

701
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:20,319
» sophomore there. And Chris Walker, one
of my own, our head of our public works,

702
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,280
is is a proud veteran. And so he's going
to lead us in our in our pledge

703
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,280
following that. So we'll give it before
you.

704
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:30,160
» Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we just
thank you uh first and foremost for uh

705
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:35,119
today. Lord, we thank you for our
community uh that you have given us to

706
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:40,880
live in. What a wonderful community it
is. Lord Jesus, we know um that it's not

707
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:45,359
perfect. Um but Lord, it is it is
certainly it is certainly cherished by

708
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,960
so many other of us who live here and
and those on the outside. Lord Jesus, we

709
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,800
look at our community. We think about
all of the servants that we have. Some

710
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,800
of them are in this room. Uh L. We think
about the teachers who are winding down

711
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:02,640
their school years. We think about um
pastors in our area, Lord. Uh those who

712
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:06,800
work in u different ministries, food
ministries, Lord, we think about those

713
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:11,839
with First Love Kids and Boys and Girls
Club. And Lord, so many servants, Lord,

714
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:16,319
our our first responders. And Lord,
tonight we think about um Lord, our

715
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:20,640
council, our mayor, and our council. U
what they give up to serve for our

716
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,640
community, the sacrifices that they
make. Lord, we're thankful for them. Uh

717
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:29,280
we lift them in prayer as they make
decisions uh that impact the lives of so

718
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,680
many. Lord, give them wisdom and
guidance and discernment uh as they uh

719
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:39,680
lead us. It's your son's precious and
holy name we pray. Amen.

720
00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:44,400
» Amen. Next flag
to the flag of the United States of

721
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:50,240
America and to the republic for it
stands one nation under God indivisible

722
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:53,680
with liberty and justice for all.
>> Thank you Jared.

723
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:58,960
» I wanted to make one more comment too
and I meant to say this before uh Jared

724
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:02,720
prayed but we lost a beloved member of
our community Freddy Blocker and I know

725
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,680
you probably know Freddy.
>> Yeah,

726
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:11,520
» he was a great community leader. uh he's
a friend of mine

727
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:17,200
» and um just and a cherished employee of
Howard Chap. He has been a staple out

728
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:22,400
there for years. I don't know how many
years Freddy worked out a very important

729
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:28,839
part of but anyway think about keep
Freddy's especially Kathy in your in

730
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,839
your prayers.

731
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:36,640
» Amen. Thank y'all for coming. Got a good
group coming in. Be sure to sign it.

732
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:41,040
sign in sheet so we get accurate record
of who's here for our meeting tonight.

733
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:45,359
At this time I have a motion please to
approve the minutes from May 4th reading

734
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:49,599
that's test
motion by council member Brown second by

735
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:56,079
council
any question on those

736
00:56:53,040 --> 00:57:01,839
all in favor.
All right. At this time, we will go into

737
00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:08,720
a public hearing. The first
request is request 2026-03.

738
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:14,920
That's to request a special exception to
allow manufactured home to be placed in

739
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,920
all three zones as multiple

740
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:27,760
able to place a manufactured home on the
property. The property is located 509

741
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:33,000
street own by member.
The one here to speak in favor of this

742
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
request.

743
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,440
One year to speak in opposition to this
request.

744
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,400
I

745
00:57:52,640 --> 00:58:00,000
» special
going to table that information to the

746
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:03,240
next meeting.
That's the only

747
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:12,000
regular session. Time to take a vote. Do
I have a motion to approve and deny

748
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:19,119
request 2020
request?

749
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:23,319
And this was denied by
>> I make a motion we accept TN.

750
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:45,599
All right. Item number seven. Do I have
a motion to adopt the second reading of

751
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:50,480
ordinance 2026-01?
That motion is to approve or deny

752
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:54,160
ordinance 2026-01.
That's an ordinance of the mayor of city

753
00:58:52,079 --> 00:59:01,799
council Georgia for the purpose of
amending the table of permits and zoning

754
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:01,799
or city that's

755
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240
commen

756
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,079
All in favor?

757
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:27,240
Item eight. I have a motion to execute
the contract USD water tax.

758
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:39,960
Motion by council member Dennis. Second
question

759
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,960
all in favor.

760
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,359
All right. Have a motion to table item
number.

761
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:13,640
» Come on.
>> Stuck in the line. Oh, okay.

762
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,640
» Last time we were here, you were ask

763
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:38,799
» these people that um you had signed this
petition, they actively are using this

764
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:43,520
golf. They come in from walks.
They come from town to play. They a lot

765
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,920
of them don't say anymore. They come
home to play.

766
01:00:51,040 --> 01:01:01,599
I had a um the that park uh I think in
my opinion we may have rash in that

767
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:06,640
judgment and that was thought that would
be put in hamper but I think that

768
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:12,160
there's this much activity there. I mean
that's it's a low cost maintenance for

769
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:17,839
us. So I I don't have no problem with
just that. But I would say periodically

770
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:23,280
if you're having something there just
let us know so that we can even go and

771
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:26,720
see and make sure that you know there is
some legitimate activity going on

772
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:31,520
because that's the reason why the
decision was made at that time. But I

773
01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:36,799
agree with uh Jeffrey, we can stay as
>> and I don't mind if you have a friends

774
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:40,079
of the park committee and y'all help us
and say, "Hey, we f to do this, that,

775
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:45,839
and the other." Or if you see something
that needs to be done, let Candace know

776
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:51,760
or somebody or Chris know, "Hey, we need
this, need that." We'll help you.

777
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:54,920
» We want We just want you.
>> That's right.

778
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,720
» Thank y'all for coming.
Get the swinger.

779
01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:18,799
» All right, that concludes our business.
We need to do an executive session for

780
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:23,440
personnel. We won't be back few minutes
as soon as we come out. I have a I have

781
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:27,760
a statement I want to make concerning
the incident that happened last Friday

782
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:32,480
night early part of Saturday morning and
chief has some comments

783
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,440
and we we'll we'll address that just as
soon as we come back in

784
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,440
motion executive
prov

785
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,240
That

786
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,920
Nothing.

787
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:17,920
All right, I think we have we have
everyone back. Appreciate y'all patience

788
01:27:15,679 --> 01:27:22,480
being here.
I have a I have a statement.

789
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:30,080
I have a statement that I'd like to read
and then I'm going to ask Chief Kyler to

790
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:37,040
make a few comments too. And after that,
this is a open investigation. This will

791
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:42,320
continue. It's not complete. But after
Chief Kyle's statements, I will open it

792
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:46,639
up. If there's one person that wants to
speak in regards to the incident that

793
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:50,639
happened last Friday night, I would take
comment from one person. But other than

794
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:54,400
that, we're not going to have any more
public discussion regarding that issue.

795
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:59,040
But if there's anything else that
anybody wants to bring to us, we'd be

796
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:04,159
glad to do that. But I will say that
after the investigation is complete, now

797
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:08,960
we'll be all the information, everything
will be made public. We're very open and

798
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:13,920
transparent. All of the officers are
trained professionals. They went by

799
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:17,600
policy. It may be at the next meeting or
if the form makes a separate meeting,

800
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,800
but everything will be brought out to
the public to make everybody aware of

801
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:26,080
exactly what happened and what the
findings of the investigation were. At

802
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:30,239
this time, I just would like to say the
Sville Police Department understands the

803
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:34,320
public's concern and interest regarding
the incident that occurred this past

804
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:38,159
weekend involving our department. We
recognize the importance of transparency

805
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:42,080
and accountability and we're committed
to conducting a thorough and

806
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:49,000
professional investigation.
This time, Chief K, would you come up

807
01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:49,000
and make the comments that you have?

808
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:58,800
And it's just like what the uh mayor has
already stated. Um this incident is

809
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:04,400
being investigated.
Uh in any instance, we will have an

810
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:09,600
incident like this. Um, we're going to
use our policies to make sure that

811
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:15,040
whatever our officers do is going to be
consistent with our policies. Um, uh,

812
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:18,480
Georgia law
and that's just the way that we we

813
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:23,679
investigate things. There have been
significant discussion on social media,

814
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:29,920
including Facebook. Uh, Sanville Police
Department will not allow public

815
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:33,679
commentary or online speculation to
influence the integrity of the

816
01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:38,080
investigation.
We hope to schedule a future date and

817
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:41,600
time for public discussion once the
investigation has progressed to a point

818
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:46,000
where additional information can
appropriately be shared. Until then, we

819
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:49,840
will not be discussing the matter
publicly this afternoon in order to

820
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:53,520
protect the integrity of the ongoing
investigation.

821
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:58,800
As a general matter, I also want to
remind all citizens that our officers

822
01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:03,360
are trained to serve, protect, and
enforce the law professionally and

823
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:08,320
responsibly during encounters with law
enforcement, compliance with lawful

824
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:12,239
commands, and avoiding resistance are
essential to helping prevent situations

825
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:17,520
from escalating
and reducing the likelihood that force

826
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:22,320
may be necessary. Sandersville Police
Department remains committed to serving

827
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:27,840
our community with professionalism,
fairness, and integrity.

828
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:32,560
Thank Thank you, Chief. At this time, is
there any one person that would like to

829
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:39,080
make a comment concerning the feelings
of the community of this thing? At time,

830
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:39,080
I will allow one person to speak.

831
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:49,000
» Yes, ma'am. State your name for the
record, please. Ma'am,

832
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:49,000
» hey, I'm Melissa Leor.

833
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:57,199
» On behalf of the New Yorker family, we
are asking that this could be an

834
01:30:54,880 --> 01:31:02,400
external investigation
of GBI because we feel like it'll be too

835
01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:06,560
much bias to keep this inhouse
>> and then we would like to know the

836
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:11,920
policies as far as use of force and how
many tasers can be used at one time.

837
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:16,480
» Also, your rights as a citizen. Can you
ask why am I being detained?

838
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:22,719
And once that says he says that he
doesn't want to sign a ticket, why

839
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:30,239
wasn't the ticket just mailed to him?
We also want to know um the use of force

840
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:35,280
policies on um not nonactive resistance
because he wasn't resisting. If I'm

841
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:40,159
telling you what did I do, you as the
officer have the right to tell me what I

842
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:45,520
did and then detain me.
So that's why because of the public

843
01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:50,000
scrutiny, the Facebook, the Instagram,
we asking for this to be an external

844
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:55,440
investigation.
We also pray for the Yorker family who

845
01:31:52,320 --> 01:32:01,280
is really moved by this. My sister used
to be an employee here. So imagine the

846
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:07,120
scrutiny that she's facing.
We also ask that um those officers be

847
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:13,520
placed on leave because the family feels
like a target right now. Mhm.

848
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:19,040
» So that they can so that we can identify
with them and ourselves to make sure

849
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:23,920
that this investigation remains fair.
>> We don't want to try to hear it. Take it

850
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:30,480
to some people that don't even know us
and just stay fair to his because we

851
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:34,639
coming with facts, not opinions, facts.
>> Don't dagger and threaten the young lady

852
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:38,239
with the video. Leave her alone. She was
just a citizen.

853
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:42,719
So imagine the treatment that she's
getting.

854
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:45,719
Please continue to pray for my family.
AMEN.

855
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:56,239
» My final comment on this, if all this
was noted, we always have answers and

856
01:32:54,320 --> 01:33:00,960
like I said, when the investigation is
complete, it will make be made public.

857
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,639
» I got a question about
>> No, man. We're not taking any question

858
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:08,000
no more. This this issue is over with
now. But if you have a question, anybody

859
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,880
else have anything to bring before the
council that's not related to this

860
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:14,480
issue?
>> It's just about the police department.

861
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:19,760
The fear of this the whole sheriff
county and fear. We fear getting pulled

862
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:24,639
over now. This put a fear in our county.
So we just want to know are when we

863
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,920
gonna find out how quick we going to
find out. Are these people suspended?

864
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:31,440
That's
when we get pulled up.

865
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,960
» No decision will be made.
>> We'll talk about it. We'll figure it

866
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:39,520
out.
You're not on the agenda, ma'am. You're

867
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:44,320
not on the agenda. So, we going this
gentleman speak. Yes, sir.

868
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:49,520
» From Atlanta, Georgia.
>> Uh, this this is one of this is a good

869
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:54,719
time, B. So, I was robbed by force by
Detective Mio

870
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:58,880
and also the chief of police called 911
and told him.

871
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:02,960
» So, I want to find So, so I want to find
out this right here been investigating.

872
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:05,960
I want to find out the update on my
investigation.

873
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:16,800
» Wait, the chief the chief the chief the
chief blow me off. This time

874
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:20,960
me off also I made application by the
state of charge for return of my propert

875
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:25,440
$6,000. The chief wrote me off.
>> You're not you're not on the agenda.

876
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,239
» You said anybody want anybody want to
say something?

877
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:30,960
» Not going to settle that here tonight.
The city manager right now. See that's

878
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:35,880
why some of you are going through the
problem they going through because you

879
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,880
want to off

880
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:44,920
you want the constitution 250 years
>> that ain't nothing.