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Please stand for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I salute the flag of the State of the Mexico, the Zs symbol of perfect friendship among the United Cultures.

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As previously noticed, I immediately prior to today's meeting on July 11, 2019, at 5 p.m., this

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is a local bill of county commissioners convened as a committee of the whole in close session

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in the third floor conference room, county administration building to discuss models subject

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to the attorney claim privilege pertaining to potential litigation against the county commission

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and discussed bargaining strategy primarily to collect a bargaining negotiations

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pursuing two opinions, meaning not, in the same 1978-1511-H2M5.

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Now it's discussed in closed session, we're limited to those specified in the

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notice of closed session, and no action was taken.

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Okay, so introductions and announcements, commissioners, any introductions and announcements?

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Mr. Chair. Commissioner Block. Thank you, sir. Two quick things. Number one, I would like to welcome a special couple I just met from my adopted home country, the NATO Lons. They live in Placidas and they're here for an item on the agenda and it's a very honored to have you here. Sorry about that.

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the World Cup, the women, U.S. women beat the Netherlands to nothing, but

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Hapolland, as we say, correct? So welcome, appreciate it. Next Mr. Chairman, I just

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want to go over, I've been getting a lot of emails, as I'm sure some of you have

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regarding the VSV virus that has been going on. I just want to talk about a

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timeline real quick and then introduce Dr. Sandeval. I received an email as

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That's all the commissioners I believe that are maybe it was just myself and you, Mr. Chairman regarding this and this happened on Sunday, I received the email from the County Manager Diane Mays and we talked and I immediately contacted because it was an issue in Corralis.

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I immediately contacted Mayor Roke Sunday afternoon and the county manager, Ms. Ryan,

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the chairman and a couple of the people immediately decided to meet Monday morning because it was the issue was that serious.

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And we had to make sure the public was notified immediately. Melissa Perez was there as well from a PA perspective.

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And I will say, Mr. Chairman, the county came together along with the Mayor of Corralis and Dr. Sandoval, who is here today.

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It was picked up by the news media.

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I've had a lot of emails that are concerned about the spring.

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I know Dr. Sandoval can talk about a lot more, but we've had spring going on in Sandoval County for 26 years.

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I've released since 1993 and when it comes to public health of people and animals at a very serious

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issue for the county and I'm glad that Dr. Sandivall is here and I'd like you sir to come up

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and I'd like you to just explain a few things about what's going on at VSV into alleviate some

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concerns of the spraying and discuss publicly on video those who will watch this either live or later

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How people can opt out and whether or not you recommend them opting out. Thank you, Dr. Sandwell

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As you said, can you speak like you got to be close to the mic so it picks it up. Thank you, sir. Let me move there. Okay

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speaking with

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Or individuals that have been calling on this virus to preface where we are

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the virus

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I've been doing this 36 years. I've never seen one like this

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It's aggressive, it's contagious, and it's moving really fast.

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Dr. Zimmerman, the state health vet, he advised me of this.

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I've been doing this a long time.

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I didn't know what I was up against, and speaking with him this morning,

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he didn't realize what we were getting into either.

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So, he has his hands full, and I'm trying to contain what's here.

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At this point, what we're trying to do is keep the virus reduced

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just like we would, West Nile, Chicken Gun, all the insect flytuses that we spray

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for all the time. We're going to try and do the same with this virus and keep it

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closed. We're working targeted areas where we know the virus is at. Our most

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recent case is in the placidas area and of course we have a lot of people calling

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and wanting out. Some of them tell you the problems why they don't want to be

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sprayed some of those people are at the highest risk for the virus. I'm going to

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hope that we do not see anybody infected. I don't think we will, but I said I

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didn't think we'd see it in a Mercedes area either. It's just something I can't

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speak to because it's new for me, and I'm trying to play catch-up, and so my goal

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right now, which is control it.

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Try and keep it at bay.

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What's different from this for people

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that we've had the vector program for since the 50s here?

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What's different about that is the way

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that we, the vector we're going after, traditionally,

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everything else we're looking at from the public health

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standpoint is a mosquito.

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Here is all the bad viruses, nobody wants.

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No animals want.

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right now we're after everything that bites. So just think of any flying pests, the bites you,

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that's a concern, a midge, a nat, a fly, a deer fly. Anything that's around can vector this

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virus from one end to the other.

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As we've seen in Corralis, it's moved from totally one end to the

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together, it was vectored by something that flew around. We can quarantine the animals,

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but dad doesn't stop the pests that are in the air. Once they pick up the virus, it's

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airborne, and it's on the, it's on the move. So that's why we're out there to try and slow

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it down. And our goal is to reduce the infection rate among the animals, therefore hopefully

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to reduce the effect rate among humans.

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What we see at death from this, probably not.

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We could see some very sick animals.

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And if it's caught early enough, I think that that helps.

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So you just have some animals that may have some issues,

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but no death in the animals.

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Dr. Zimmerman referred to it as a nuisance virus.

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one of the at risk humans, and we're trying to manage for those also.

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The people that call and have concerns that I've talked to a lot of folks this week, most

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of the concerns are the spraying, is it dangerous plants, fruit trees, organic farms, no.

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We've been doing this the whole time.

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This is nothing new.

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We're just doing it a little broader based because of the pests that we're after now.

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So everything is the same, it's just actually a lot broader based of what we were before.

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We do a lot more serving now during the day that we didn't have to do in the past.

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I'm out now almost every day in a truck trying to figure out where our numbers are and then

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we attack those at night or early in the morning.

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But the safety is there, there's no concern of being sick to animals, humans, products have

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been used forever.

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And right now, the ones that we currently use in this county are mixed with water.

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And the rates that we mix is just strong enough to kill a mosquito or a fly.

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So it's not going to kill anything else.

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The concerns we have with bees, a lot of bee concerns.

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terms. We take every effort not to kill bees. If we know there's a hive or someone calls

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it in. There's a program called Drift Watch from the Mexico Department of Ag and they've

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been advised they can check in there, put in their address and that as soon as they do that

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that comes to me also. I get updated all the time as soon as that comes in. So we know where

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where those houses are at, where those bees are at.

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and we see them and we just take a mental note.

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Don't spray there.

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So bees were watching.

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Is there gonna be a casualty of a bee or two?

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Probably most likely, yes, there's most likely,

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but we're trying to avoid it at all costs.

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Dr. Sandoval, I know you've been working with Melissa Perez

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on the public affairs piece of getting the word out,

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but are you also going out to Corralis to talk to some of the residents there,

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or maybe even now up in Placidas, or some parts of Bernoulli along the river for these people?

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Most of the residents that are concerned right now about early animals,

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and Dr. Zimmerman was in Placidas last night with a group, and he got the same results that

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that we're getting from the county side is that we've they're concerned as a

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bee's and because I have a lot of gardens up there so we're watching for all

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that. Other areas a lot of people are stopping the truck at night so we don't

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we're not doing any group meetings with anybody but these communities are so

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small one person stops and talks to me and the whole block knows by the next

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morning and that's actually good that's small communities were great that way

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they can spread the word really fast.

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You know, Joe Smith down there doesn't want the place

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sprayed can you stay away?

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Sure, that's not a problem.

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We'll mark it down and call the county.

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Let me get it taken care of.

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We have a lot of questions.

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We have them on the emails that come in

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and I try and respond to some of those

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that are very a lot of questions

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and or someone stops us on the road.

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We answer questions there.

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And if we're called any groups or anything

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we show up to talk to folks.

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We keep it very transparent.

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We let them know it's going on and it's not a bad program and there's a reason for it.

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There are a lot of concerns.

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I'm sorry, yet Dr. Zimmerman was at the Horse Advisory Council on Wednesday so he was

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able to give us an update at that time but can you tell us where we are in numbers and which

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direction this virus is moving and then do we anticipate this is going to

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increase geometrically? I mean do we have that kind? I mean it was Sunday it was

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two and eleven on Wednesday so can you tell us where we are? Well as of this

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morning the numbers have gone up and we're waiting for another positive case

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in Rio Rancho which we didn't expect this at all so he's as soon as that

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comes in it is spreading what we're trying to do now as I'm working with

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public works obviously and the associations in the county and they're they're

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trying to manage the animals coming in like to the county fair when we get

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animals coming from all over if we have one positive in there and they drink

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think out of the same container, we've just contaminated all those animals.

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So then all those animals go back to their respective properties and it starts growing

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from those areas so it replants itself.

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And then once the flies or insects get to the animal, here it goes again.

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So it does multiply a lot.

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Dr. Zimmerman thinks it's going to keep going and I do to from what we're seeing.

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It's in some dry areas, I wouldn't expect it to be there.

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If you would ask me how to say nothing would be there.

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And it's right in the middle of a place I'm not expecting.

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a move and grow.

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And we're just going to manage as much as we can, trying to be proactive.

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And then when we get a new case, then we worked that area,

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making a new plan for that area.

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Okay, and I appreciate you saying what you did about the impact

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of the virus, so I think if you could expand on that just slightly, we don't expect to lose any animals

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or hopefully no humans over this virus, but you know a little bit about the just how it presents.

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It presents initially, I'm not a vet, so this is what I've learned. It presents initially as a

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sore on the animal, it has to be tested to find out if it is this VSV virus, because

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it's similar to hoof and mouth, I believe is what he told me. A lot of people think

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it's that, but you have to test for it. It's right now the concern is horses, cows, and

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then on a secondary level we can look at llamas and maybe sheep, but usually they're going

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to be okay. But they could be the secondary. And along the secondary is a human's also.

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I don't think that the human infection can happen. I spoke with the Department of Health

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this morning. It's a very small risk. They don't want me to say it won't. But at the same

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time, we don't need to be worried about it. The contamination to human is direct contact

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to an animal. Without wearing gloves around an animal, they can get it on their hands and

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then their doctor has to give them whatever they do for that.

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The only way they can

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else they can get transferred by mechanical means through a vector like a biting midge.

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The midge picks up the virus that's shedding from the animal and bites a human that's maybe

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compromised immune system, once it breaks the skin, that's where the problem is. If a fly lands on the virus and

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then lands on my skin, but it doesn't break the skin, I'm going to be fine. But if a midge lands on the skin because it uses teeth to bite,

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it'll break the skin. And that's where the virus can transfer. That's why we're trying to reduce all this and keep the numbers down.

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That helped.

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You know, we're talking a lot about Corales, we're talking about Placitas, what about the Northern part of the county?

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Is there any spring or anything going on in that area?

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Yes, we're working Cuba.

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Cuba, we started working up there just because we've got some waterways up there and then I know the fair is coming.

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So we're going to, we've started heavily to try and keep the numbers down up there.

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Then, as far as that part of the county, that's really all we're working up there.

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Then you come down, saying, Cedro, he was public, we're working those again because the year...

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Irrigated fields are so strong. So we're trying to keep it down for we have humans, of course, a lot of water also. Because the area up there pretty much has the largest population of livestock in the county. Of cows, horses and everything else, even though they have all the fancy horses down here. And everything else, but up there is where they have the working horses and cattle and everything else. And I'm

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I mean, when ranchers have 400, 500 head of cattle and those

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issues need to be looked at very aggressively, right?

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We don't.

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I had any plans to go up there.

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As far as even the mosquito fogging past Cuba,

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we'd kept that pretty much as a pristine area before.

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It was just super clean area and hadn't

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have been tainted yet when I came on. So we haven't touched it. Now, if something happens

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up there, yeah, we will be up there quick. Okay. That's not a problem. Thank you.

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Any other comments? Mr. Chair, I'd just like to invite everybody once again to go to the

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home page of the Santa Law County government and look down on the left side. There's an announcement.

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You can click on the memo that was sent out. It's under public notices. The Vector Control

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program and has a lot of detail there and Dr. Sandivall thank you for helping us

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craft that message to the public to make sure the public understands the

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risk and that we're transparent as possible and lastly sir has there been any

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other animals affected besides horses that you know and if so what were they

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not that we know of the issue is like other viruses people are looking for it

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they don't know and they may not know it to the animal and stop eating for a

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a week or two, then they realize, oh, there's something wrong.

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And the other thing we have to think about is some people,

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the animals, it's expected to take an animal to a vet.

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So if they're really small, they may not see the vet

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until the last minute.

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So those cases won't show up until later.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate it.

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Any other introductions or announcements?

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I just want to kind of remind the community of,

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I was, this was kind of addressed at all last, I mean, it has to do with the community

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economic development and action strategy, which is in a sort of a, um, implement, um, we're

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doing this because Sanable County tends to be more of a bedroom economy, and that's not

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something we can afford to move forward with when you have a lot of our, um, residents

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having to go to other communities to work when having to go to other communities to spend money.

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It doesn't support our local services, et cetera.

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So we have committees that are heavily engaged in this.

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Very active in trying to address how we solve the problem.

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One of the big issues in solving the problem is having business development sites.

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We have an infrastructure committee, a site selection committee, and a community engagement committee that is out working with the community to help everybody understand what the direction of this strategy is.

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We can't continue to export our, the money that our residents make and spend it in other communities that doesn't support our roads, doesn't support our first responders, etc.

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So we're working hard on that strategy, you're going to hear more and more and more and more and more about it until you're probably

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Tired of hearing it, but it's something that we have to implement and we're

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Quickly in the process of doing that

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There are no other introductions or announcements? Could I-

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The motion to approve the agenda. Some moved. Do we have a second?

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Second. Madam Clerk.

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Come in, Mr. Brock. Yes, Mr. Meek. Yes, Mr. Iquil. Yes, Vice Chair Block. Aye.

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And Chair High. Yes.

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Moving on to public comments, we have a Jennifer Taylor from the Treasurer's Office.

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Jennifer, we're leading into that mic.

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Good evening, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. I'm here today to read statement from Treasurer, Laura and Montoya. It's unfortunate that the newly negotiated contract for the county manager and the change in the two spring break days came up when I am at the National Association of Counties. I was disappointed to hear that this body is considering taking away what they just gave to the employees.

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in December, in particular, when the consent agenda has a new contract for the county manager adding an additional four hours of annual pay period, with 26 pay checks per year, that comes up to 104 hours a year, with the salary of $125,000 as a pay increase of over $6,200.

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dollars. My question to this body is who are we valuing? Who is your priority? The county

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attorney just recently received a salary increase and now the county managers are receiving

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a pay increase by increasing annual leave. Our public safety personnel will be losing out on the

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two days of overtime if they become quote floating holidays. And if the commission is stating that it's

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because we don't have the money to pay it, then why is it that we have the money to give increases

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to the top two highest paid employees in the county.

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A floating holiday for smaller offices becomes a little complex with making sure there is appropriate coverage.

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None of our employees receiving a pay increase are receiving a pay increase or an increase in annual leave this fiscal year.

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Not even our unions were able to get an increase to contract negotiations.

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As you recall in December, this body did not give the newly elected officials coming in a salary increase either.

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Even though the legislature and governor approved the increase in all other class A county commissions approved

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This decision was just by by stating this body wanted to take care of the quote share of deputies and employees first and quote

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By proving the new contract with the county manager

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You are sending a message that does not equate to supporting or appreciating our county employees

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You are sending a message that this body is unfair and inequitable in their decision making

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I ask that this body reconsider the message they are sending in both the contract approval for the county manager and the floating holidays.

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If no one is getting any type of pain creases whether through overtime, salary or annual leave, then there shouldn't be exceptions.

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Madam Clerk, I would like my remarks reflected in the record. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jennifer.

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I'm moving on to presentations and proclamations. We have the U.S. Forest Service.

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So which one is Jennifer? Neither. She was sick today. Okay. Okay. Well, then tell us who you are. I'm Devon Black. I'm on the Forest Planner Vision team, the ecological lead. I'm Aaron Barton. I'm also on the Forest Planner Vision team, the socioeconomic lead. Thank you for having us today.

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Okay, as you said, we're from the Santa Bay National Forest and both from the Santa Forest

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Planner Vision team.

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So just to kind of orient us before we get started, you know, all of the light green on

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this map that you can see, I don't know if you can see it on the screen, that's the Santa

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Bay National Forest.

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It's 1.6 million acres and it covers six counties, including Santa Ball County, there's significant

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portion in this county here.

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And so our draft plan, it really aims to do three things.

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We want to restore resiliency to the land, provide clean and abundant water, and connect people to the land and their heritage.

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So we've been in this forest plan revision process since 2012 for about five years.

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for about five years, and we started this process because we really, so currently we're

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under the 1987 Forest Plan and there was some issues with management under this plan.

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It's been amended 17 times.

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The direction in the current plan for managing sustainable recreation is minimal and managing

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traditional and cultural uses is included but is also minimal in this current 1987 plan.

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Partners are rarely mentioned, and the plan is silent on the importance of forming and

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working with partners.

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The plan emphasizes timber production of a restoration and includes specific direction

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on fire suppression, which doesn't help us move towards desired conditions for fire-adapted

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ecosystems or vegetation resiliency, which is becoming increasingly important as we see

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There's been fires all over the Southwest.

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We really would like to reduce that from happening.

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The 1970s and plan also has watershed management,

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but that focuses on complex systems of road management

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objectives that have really been impossible for the forest

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service to implement in an economically efficient manner.

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And we also single species management,

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for threatened or endangered species.

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But this management is looked at instead

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of landscape scale management that really supports multiple types of quality,

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terrestrial, and aquatic habitat for a variety of at-risk species. So for all these

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reasons we started this plan revision process and we're looking at creating a

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new plan that really addresses those goals that I talked about in the beginning.

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So over this process we've really tried to focus on early and often strategy of

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public engagement. We've engaged partners, tribes, and the public in our planning process.

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We've had technical meetings with a core group of 13 cooperating agencies. These consist

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of official government entities including soil and water conservation districts, state and

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government agencies, digit associations such as the Lahara digit association, and the New

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Mexico land grant council. We've had regular meetings with 24 federally recognized tribes

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and four tribal councils, including Memorandums of Understanding, which results in quarterly meetings with about four to five different tribes.

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All of this has kind of resulted in over 250 public meetings, and we have managed to reach about 3,200 people through our engagement strategies.

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We've also had additional focus on youth engagement through field trips and hands-on learning to really try and bring people into the process and connect our upcoming youth

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youth with their public lands and understand how we're managing them.

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So some of the key things that we're addressing in this draft plan are supporting traditional

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communities and uses, delivering socially and economically valued products, including

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jobs and income, timber and forest products like fuel wood, range land and livestock grazing,

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and watershed and water quality.

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We're also looking to address sustainable recreation and maintain access, build partnerships

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and increase communication and collaboration, restore ecosystem resiliency, create and protect

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habitat to support our species, and recognize some of the unique and special aspects of the forest

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through designated areas and management areas. And all of these themes were gained from feedback from

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public, partnering agencies, forest service specials, and regional directives. So we've really tried to

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make sure these scenes address all manner of concerns from our publics.

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And how we got to some of

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of these concerns was through our draft environmental

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impact statement.

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So through this environmental impact statement,

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we analyzed four different potential alternatives

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for how this plan would work.

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The first alternative is the no-action.

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This is our existing 1987 plan, which would be updated

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to be consistent with the 2012 planning rule,

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but otherwise would stay with the management that we have now.

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The second alternative is our proposed actions.

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So, that's what I've been describing with these key themes.

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And this action really looks at emphasizing multiple uses of the forest and supporting

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healthy ecosystem for our providing for working forest and supporting local economies through

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this restoration work.

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Our third alternative emphasizes natural forces and it includes a heavier reliance on fire

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as a restoration tool to move vegetation towards other conditions and increases objectives

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to improve riparian areas, wildlife habitat, and watershed health, but also includes reductions

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in amenities and infrastructure for human uses. However, it doesn't actually reduce human

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use, just as the amenities and infrastructure that we'd be supporting.

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And then our fourth alternative is the human use alternative. And this really emphasizes

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our multiple use aspects of the forest and including heavier reliance on mechanical thinning,

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instead of fire for restoration, increased amenities and infrastructure for human uses,

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but fewer objectives for wildlife, habitat improvement, watershed, and riparian restoration.

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So alternative also has no recommended wilderness.

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So another part of our draft plans is our

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proposed action, which is sort of a new concept moving away from our current 1987 plan,

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is this idea of geographic areas. So we included seven geographic areas in our draft plan.

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And these areas reflect different local communities and their uses across the forest.

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Each geographic area highlights the ecological and socioeconomic features that characterize

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it, and I really meant to help communities identify more with the forest plan and show

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them that we've been listening to what resources, features, and uses are important to them

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in their particular area of the forest.

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Most geographic areas include desired conditions, specific to restoration and recreation, and

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these vary with each with each one. So you see in that map we're mostly in the

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Hema's Maces and Canions geographic area down there at the bottom of the dark

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blue. Then there's seven across the forest.

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And this map here, this is showing the

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management areas. So our old plan was all management areas. The forest was

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broken up into very specific management goals sometimes overlapping and these

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are really difficult for forest service staff to manage effectively, especially in

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in regards to fire management.

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Our new plan identifies unique areas

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that require special management.

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So these are areas that may be different management

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that can't be met through forest-wide plan components,

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which is what makes up the majority of our draft plan.

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Some examples are the Caja del Rio Wildlife

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and Cultural Interpretive Area,

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four different cultural interpretive management areas,

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the Canada Bonita Research Natural Area,

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and the oil and gas leasing area.

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That one is the largest one in there with the cross hatches.

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It's easiest to see on the map on the screen.

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And it's actually the only area in the forest

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that has oil and gas potential

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and has stipulations that protect other resources

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from activities involved in oil and gas mining.

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So kind of as we wrap up,

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we wanted to mention that,

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so the Santa Fe National Forest orders

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the Carson National Forest in the North

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and also is very close to the Siebel and National Forest,

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which is closer to around here.

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So one thing that we've really tried to do

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in our development of our draft plan

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is working very closely with these two other forests

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to create consistent plan components.

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And this is really meant to help our communities

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as they're moving through the forest using the forest,

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you know, they might not always be aware

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of these imaginary lines.

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You can move from the Santa Fe to the Carson

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and might not even notice it.

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So we really wanted to have consistent plan components that would help people in traditional

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communities especially be able to, you know, if they're gathering fuelwood on the Santa

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Bay and the Carson, we don't want, you know, really different management direction on

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how that works.

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So we've been working closely with all of them throughout this process and they will also

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have their draft plans coming out close to ours.

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so we've been kind of in segueing off that and our public engagement coming up so the reason

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that we're holding this meeting is because we are coming up in a new period, new comment period

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for our planning process and we're actually releasing our draft plan and draft environmental

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impact statement, the EIS, for the official 90 day public comment period.

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And so this is the plan

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that we've been working on through public comment will be released for as hard copies will

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be available at public libraries and we've actually already started distributing these.

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We currently have them available at the Bernalillo library, Rio Rancho, and the San Diablo have

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them so far.

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So you can go to these libraries and look at hard copies if you want.

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We also have online copies that are available now and we can tell you the website or the

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website right up there on the screen. If you go to that link, you can find those online

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copies to look at. And then in the coming weeks, we will be sending out information on

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the public meetings that we're going to be having during this 90-day comment period.

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And when the 90-day comment period starts, that will be officially announced in the Federal

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Register as well as in the Albuquerque Journal. And through our mailing list. So if you'd

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like to be on that mailing list to make sure you get alerts.

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You can also, you know, send us an email or call us and we can make sure you're all included

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on that mailing list.

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And then you'll get notifications as to when this comic period starts and also our public

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meetings.

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So these are starting August 20th.

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We'll be having 10 open house meetings in communities across the forest.

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I think these closest to here will be Rio Rancho, we'll be having meetings there.

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And these meetings are really meant to help people, you know, answer questions about the

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plan that they might have after looking at it online or at the library.

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Help people comment, understand how to comment, help them navigate the plans, these are

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massive documents.

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So maybe they only want to look at a certain section, we'll be there to help, and then find

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the sections that they're interested in, and then we'll also be having a three-force meeting.

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So as I said, we've been working to be consistent with the Seabullet and the Carson.

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So on August 20th, we will be having a meeting in conjunction with the Carson and

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C. Bull and National Forest in Santa Fe. We're all three forests will be

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in attendance. So anybody who's interested in all three can just come to one

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meeting instead of running all over the forest. And so that's kind of going to

433
00:36:25,013 --> 00:36:29,573
be focusing on the consistency between the plans and helping people who are

434
00:36:29,573 --> 00:36:33,853
interested in all three. We'll also be engaging tribes separately. We've started

435
00:36:33,853 --> 00:36:38,773
setting up individual tribal meetings for tribes that have been working with us throughout

436
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:44,393
the planning process and are interested in knowing where we are right now and reaching

437
00:36:44,393 --> 00:36:48,253
out to counties to make sure they are aware of where we are on the process and giving them

438
00:36:48,253 --> 00:36:53,693
the opportunity to get their comments in and ask questions like that.

439
00:36:54,353 --> 00:36:59,473
So if you're interested in learning more or would like to get on our mailing list, you

440
00:36:59,473 --> 00:37:14,733
You can go to that website or call us 505-485-442 or we have an email Santa Fe Forest Plan at fs.fed.us and we'd be more than happy to take anybody's questions in that regard.

441
00:37:15,953 --> 00:37:16,693
Thank you very much.

442
00:37:17,213 --> 00:37:19,773
Thank you. Any comments or questions?

443
00:37:20,713 --> 00:37:34,213
Mr. Chairman, if I may, I have been communicating with Aaron, and the opportunity exists as well to have a one-on-one if any of the commissioners are interested in doing so.

444
00:37:35,493 --> 00:37:37,753
I look forward to seeing you guys tomorrow.

445
00:37:38,873 --> 00:37:39,773
Thank you.

446
00:37:39,773 --> 00:37:47,043
The other comments are crushed to chairman just a couple. I think I'm scheduled to see you as well

447
00:37:49,243 --> 00:37:55,163
Great brief by the way in the public engagement. I appreciate you doing that. That's extremely important to have that transparency

448
00:37:55,163 --> 00:37:57,603
Let them know what's going on

449
00:37:58,183 --> 00:38:04,443
How many acres of the Santa Fe forest are in Santa Valle County?

450
00:38:05,483 --> 00:38:07,843
I'm not sure of exact acreage

451
00:38:07,843 --> 00:38:11,023
We look at that map and

452
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:19,503
see it's a fairly large portion, but I'm afraid we don't know the exact acreage.

453
00:38:19,603 --> 00:38:22,503
I'd be curious to see how much is located in Sandwell County.

454
00:38:22,843 --> 00:38:24,203
We can definitely get that number to you.

455
00:38:24,663 --> 00:38:30,323
And this is one of the oldest forces that we have in the state.

456
00:38:30,583 --> 00:38:34,383
This was established in 1915, three years after we became a U.S. state.

457
00:38:34,383 --> 00:38:43,143
And I'm curious if the size change that we increasing the national force or is it basically

458
00:38:43,143 --> 00:38:46,123
we stay in roughly the $1,15,000,000.

459
00:38:46,403 --> 00:39:14,083
158,000 acres? It's roughly saying the same. There have land exchanges are possible, but there's been no significant increase in the forest land to my knowledge. Okay. And then you hit upon the economics a little bit, and that kind of peaked my interest. You talked about slide five. You talked about jobs. Can you tell us how many jobs you're talking about on slide five?

460
00:39:14,083 --> 00:39:14,983
Is

461
00:39:19,493 --> 00:39:30,073
that US government jobs, state jobs, contractor jobs, or is it other jobs that are based on people visiting and what's the economic impact of the forest in New Mexico?

462
00:39:30,953 --> 00:39:34,773
So the exact number of jobs can go get that number in a minute.

463
00:39:35,293 --> 00:39:40,453
But we're basing those numbers on so jobs based on recreation income.

464
00:39:40,893 --> 00:39:45,673
So people who have recreation businesses, drawing people in who will spend money in our communities.

465
00:39:47,133 --> 00:39:52,473
because tourism is extremely important in our state and I think it's important

466
00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:56,513
and I was looking prepping for this meeting I was looking to see what the

467
00:39:56,513 --> 00:40:01,753
economic impact is of the forest in our state and what it brings us and I was

468
00:40:01,753 --> 00:40:06,973
hoping you might have that info and if you don't have it now I'd like to get it

469
00:40:06,973 --> 00:40:12,373
later if that'd be okay yeah we can get it to you by that meeting and Devon can

470
00:40:12,373 --> 00:40:14,673
pull it up as I'm talking about some of the other things.

471
00:40:15,173 --> 00:40:17,593
So those jobs are coming, are from tourism,

472
00:40:18,913 --> 00:40:20,593
from grazing communities.

473
00:40:20,933 --> 00:40:24,853
We're working to help maintain AUMs on the forest

474
00:40:24,853 --> 00:40:26,113
and sustainable grazing.

475
00:40:26,873 --> 00:40:28,973
They're coming from things like hunting

476
00:40:28,973 --> 00:40:32,313
and fishing, which is part of recreation forest products.

477
00:40:32,993 --> 00:40:35,193
So we're looking to support local industries.

478
00:40:36,013 --> 00:40:37,573
So as we're doing forest management,

479
00:40:37,833 --> 00:40:39,313
you know that opens up the opportunity

480
00:40:40,233 --> 00:40:47,393
We can't guarantee that interestee will come, but we can say that we are creating opportunity

481
00:40:47,393 --> 00:40:51,693
through our management actions to help these industries thrive in the state.

482
00:40:53,933 --> 00:40:56,053
And I think those are some of the main ones.

483
00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:58,893
Do you have that broken out or is it just an inaccurate get number?

484
00:40:59,553 --> 00:41:01,073
We do have that broken out.

485
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:02,813
Okay.

486
00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:06,693
I don't want to hold you up if I could just get that after I appreciate that.

487
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:09,553
We can definitely get that to you, jobs numbers.

488
00:41:12,353 --> 00:41:14,493
And out of the three national force,

489
00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:16,273
can I assume that Santa Fe is your favorite?

490
00:41:16,913 --> 00:41:19,693
Yeah, I like it.

491
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:21,893
All right.

492
00:41:22,353 --> 00:41:23,493
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

493
00:41:23,553 --> 00:41:24,493
I'm quite real quick.

494
00:41:24,733 --> 00:41:28,613
I can say that we're looking at a 16% increase in jobs

495
00:41:28,613 --> 00:41:33,573
from current, 14% increase in total annual labor income,

496
00:41:33,933 --> 00:41:34,453
user estimates.

497
00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:42,133
And so, jobs are really coming from timber products for local industries, traditional

498
00:41:42,133 --> 00:41:52,293
uses, grazing, and we're looking at as many as 1,413 jobs, and more than $53.5 million

499
00:41:52,293 --> 00:41:52,953
in the income.

500
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:55,473
Can you email that to me please?

501
00:41:55,633 --> 00:41:55,733
Yes.

502
00:41:56,193 --> 00:41:56,413
Awesome.

503
00:41:56,653 --> 00:41:57,033
Can share that.

504
00:41:57,373 --> 00:41:57,893
Appreciate it.

505
00:41:58,173 --> 00:41:58,753
Thank you Mr. Chairman.

506
00:42:00,913 --> 00:42:07,213
I don't know if I want to congratulate you yet or not, but I see that you guys are on

507
00:42:07,213 --> 00:42:14,333
your presentation about forest management and just recently the Nanaho fire up in Cuba

508
00:42:14,903 --> 00:42:22,333
in La Jada area that just started as a lightning fire with four acres and with a forest management

509
00:42:22,333 --> 00:42:28,473
plant that they had went up to about a thousand acres or higher. It hasn't gotten away from

510
00:42:28,473 --> 00:42:36,193
you yet so that's why I'm holding my congratulations to you but the management of that watershed

511
00:42:36,193 --> 00:42:44,473
in that area is critical for this whole area and I'm hoping that it continues to be looked at.

512
00:42:45,013 --> 00:42:49,733
That forest management plan had to be done in a matter of days of what I understood

513
00:42:51,053 --> 00:42:56,973
because the lighting fire they could have put it out in a little while and they all suddenly

514
00:42:56,973 --> 00:43:02,593
ended up going about 10 days if I'm not mistaken. So I'm hoping everything goes well with

515
00:43:02,593 --> 00:43:08,473
you guys up there and I hope that you guys continue to do things like that. Do you

516
00:43:08,473 --> 00:43:13,193
did inform the community? I know that you guys had a meeting up there that was informative

517
00:43:13,193 --> 00:43:16,293
to the community so I appreciate that. Thank you.

518
00:43:17,233 --> 00:43:22,363
Other comments? Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

519
00:43:22,483 --> 00:43:22,763
All right.

520
00:43:23,655 --> 00:43:32,715
We're going to move on to the consent agenda. Can I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? So moved. Chair, second. Madam Clerk.

521
00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:35,455
Mr. Brock.

522
00:43:36,515 --> 00:43:36,595
Mr. Brock.

523
00:43:36,595 --> 00:43:36,615
Yes.

524
00:43:36,995 --> 00:43:37,615
Mr. Meek.

525
00:43:38,155 --> 00:43:38,635
Yes.

526
00:43:38,955 --> 00:43:39,455
Mr. Michael.

527
00:43:39,695 --> 00:43:39,855
Yes.

528
00:43:40,275 --> 00:43:40,955
Vice Chair Block.

529
00:43:41,255 --> 00:43:41,435
Aye.

530
00:43:41,715 --> 00:43:42,175
Chair Hyall.

531
00:43:42,395 --> 00:43:42,635
Yes.

532
00:43:43,416 --> 00:43:45,516
And to office the county manager.

533
00:43:54,306 --> 00:44:21,466
Good evening, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. I bring the next item to you as a follow-up from a topic that I brought in November of 2018. At that time, I was looking to adopt the resolution so that we could consistently adopt holidays every year. That would allow us to plan accordingly. And in the case of a department like Public Works,

534
00:44:21,466 --> 00:44:25,626
community services that has a lot of interaction with the community.

535
00:44:25,906 --> 00:44:31,246
It allows them to make plans from year to year and not wait till January until

536
00:44:31,246 --> 00:44:39,726
the commission adopts the holiday schedule. At that time I brought the request

537
00:44:39,726 --> 00:44:48,666
to adopt floating holidays. That would allow for the county to remain open and

538
00:44:48,666 --> 00:44:56,366
And people to choose the holidays or the time-offs that they would like to take based on their supervisor's permission.

539
00:44:57,546 --> 00:45:07,046
And there was a change at the time and we commissioned at that time then voted in favor of two spring break holidays.

540
00:45:07,786 --> 00:45:16,566
What that meant is that we closed the county and inadvertently I'm sure resulted in cost to the county for

541
00:45:16,566 --> 00:45:19,406
a double time and a half for our public safety employees.

542
00:45:20,866 --> 00:45:27,706
And so at this point in time, I, in the interest of trying to be efficient and address the

543
00:45:27,706 --> 00:45:33,046
kinds of spending that, of course, we all want to be very effective and efficient with

544
00:45:33,046 --> 00:45:33,546
our budget.

545
00:45:34,946 --> 00:45:41,166
I brought bringing this back to you for reconsideration of adopting one of two resolutions.

546
00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:52,966
One has the opportunity to then just add one floating holiday, and the other one has the option of adopting two floating holidays.

547
00:45:53,326 --> 00:45:57,946
And that way, our diverse population of employees can take those as they choose.

548
00:45:57,946 --> 00:46:17,206
So I'd like to request a motion to repeal the county holiday resolution number 12-13-18.10D and replace it with a new resolution based on what your preferences for one or two floating holidays.

549
00:46:19,756 --> 00:46:28,796
To ask for a motion for the repeal of the resolution with the idea of replacing it with one of the two options so you can get the item on the table.

550
00:46:29,776 --> 00:46:30,936
So, move, Mr. Chairman.

551
00:46:31,256 --> 00:46:31,856
Do we have a second?

552
00:46:33,136 --> 00:46:33,616
Second.

553
00:46:34,336 --> 00:46:36,036
I will have some public comment on this.

554
00:46:36,176 --> 00:46:36,876
Jose Romero.

555
00:46:39,416 --> 00:46:40,416
Josie pardon me.

556
00:46:43,276 --> 00:46:44,856
No, Josie, come up here.

557
00:46:45,916 --> 00:46:48,016
We don't want to miss a word of what you're going to say.

558
00:46:52,876 --> 00:46:55,516
Mr. Chairman, members of the body commissioners,

559
00:46:56,196 --> 00:46:59,296
I've been an employee with Sanable County for 18 years.

560
00:46:59,856 --> 00:47:03,436
It really meant a lot to have the two spring break holidays

561
00:47:03,436 --> 00:47:04,396
back to back.

562
00:47:04,396 --> 00:47:13,116
I raised my grandson who's three, his daycare was closed, so for me personally this meant that I didn't have to pay alternative daycare out of pocket.

563
00:47:13,496 --> 00:47:17,416
And I had the ability to stay home with him and celebrate the holiday with my family.

564
00:47:17,736 --> 00:47:23,856
I know that there are other co-workers that I am with as well in the county who felt the same way.

565
00:47:24,336 --> 00:47:28,216
They were appreciative of the two days that we had since we had not had raises.

566
00:47:28,836 --> 00:47:39,676
and we are strict on our schedule in the treasure's office because we do collections and we are not able to take off on certain times of the year due to that.

567
00:47:40,776 --> 00:47:49,636
This, again, was important to us. I wanted to thank you for approving that and for giving us the opportunity to have those two days off back to back for the holiday.

568
00:47:50,676 --> 00:47:55,036
We're asking that you reconsider that and allow us to keep those holidays as they are.

569
00:47:55,356 --> 00:48:04,576
I understand that it might be what you might feel not cost effective for the county, but for us as employees since we didn't get an increase, that means a lot to us.

570
00:48:04,676 --> 00:48:13,176
That means that we are important by taking it away and giving us floating holidays that's like we're given another personal day.

571
00:48:14,236 --> 00:48:19,676
And we are a short staff, so it is hard for us in the treasurer's office to all be off at the same exact time.

572
00:48:20,336 --> 00:48:24,736
We are seniors in there. We've had 36 years in there, 22 years in there, 18 years in there.

573
00:48:25,196 --> 00:48:30,236
So it's not like we're fighting for the days off. It's just nice to all have them off at the same time.

574
00:48:31,136 --> 00:48:37,916
So we're just asking that you just reconsider, reconsider that. And there are other county employees who couldn't be here this evening,

575
00:48:37,916 --> 00:49:04,636
who I know sent emails with their concerns, with the same address, and again, you know, we are hard working, we do appreciate the county, we do appreciate what the county gives to us, both for medical and working in a nice facility and so forth, but not having the opportunity to have an increase when everybody else gets increases and the world is increasing cost of living is extensive.

576
00:49:04,636 --> 00:49:13,356
You know, so I just wanted to again thank you for bringing that for passing that resolution when it was passed in December and to ask that you consider to keep it.

577
00:49:13,676 --> 00:49:17,556
And work with other departments they do have over time.

578
00:49:17,556 --> 00:49:27,636
I'm sure you know I've been married to a deputy before so I know that there's there's money there in certain places and I also wanted to show you your employee.

579
00:49:29,036 --> 00:49:32,956
I am getting emotional because this is important to us.

580
00:49:33,356 --> 00:49:44,356
It is important that we have these days off so that we can spend them with our family so we don't have to take time out of our annually or our sick leave or to take money out of our pocket to find additional day care.

581
00:49:44,516 --> 00:49:52,776
We can be there for them. We can be there for our families to help them so I would just ask if you just reconsider please and keep our two spring break holidays.

582
00:49:53,136 --> 00:49:53,776
Thank you for your time.

583
00:49:53,776 --> 00:49:54,836
Thank you, Josie.

584
00:49:55,436 --> 00:49:57,176
Jessica McPurley.

585
00:50:03,136 --> 00:50:05,096
Good evening, Mr. Chairman and commissioners.

586
00:50:05,656 --> 00:50:07,236
I would like to speak in opposition

587
00:50:07,236 --> 00:50:10,276
for removing the already approved spring break holiday.

588
00:50:11,176 --> 00:50:13,096
In accordance with the County Commission Meeting

589
00:50:13,096 --> 00:50:17,436
dated 12, 13, 18, a motion to approve resolution number 12,

590
00:50:18,056 --> 00:50:20,716
dash 13, dash 18, dot 10, D to adopt.

591
00:50:21,156 --> 00:50:25,696
And I quote, consistent annual holiday and observances

592
00:50:25,696 --> 00:50:32,156
and quote, it was stated that this was, and I quote, necessary since observed holidays

593
00:50:32,156 --> 00:50:38,736
have varied over the years and does not allow for consistency and quote. Consistency was

594
00:50:38,736 --> 00:50:43,776
mentioned several times as well as no need for an annual adoption. Keep in mind it has

595
00:50:43,776 --> 00:50:50,676
not been one full year since this has been put in place. During the last year's commission

596
00:50:50,676 --> 00:50:56,916
meeting there was a great emphasis on the morale of sandwell county employees with employees not

597
00:50:56,916 --> 00:51:03,596
receiving a monetary pay increase in five years and to possibly take away the two days it is a

598
00:51:03,596 --> 00:51:11,756
morale buster as a newly hired employee two consecutive and consistent days off is extremely valuable

599
00:51:11,756 --> 00:51:22,616
Any county employee employed from zero months to five years only earns 3.08 hours of annual leave a pay period.

600
00:51:23,496 --> 00:51:28,616
This takes these employees six weeks to earn one full day off.

601
00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:39,816
By taking away two consecutive and consistent pay days off, it takes away the opportunity for those employees to extend their annual leave without having to utilize

602
00:51:39,816 --> 00:51:44,956
a great deal of their banked time that is extremely difficult to earn.

603
00:51:45,916 --> 00:51:50,576
It would be appreciated if the commission would reevaluate Sendable Counties annual

604
00:51:50,576 --> 00:51:52,836
accrual rate and increase those tier levels.

605
00:51:54,296 --> 00:51:59,856
Other concerns about the proposed float holidays in Lewis Green Break are in the case of some

606
00:51:59,856 --> 00:52:06,076
offices who use a vacation calendar based on seniority and this puts a disparity when

607
00:52:06,076 --> 00:52:08,896
and non-senior level employees can utilize their days.

608
00:52:09,796 --> 00:52:12,376
In smaller offices, it may be hard to obtain

609
00:52:12,376 --> 00:52:15,376
supervisor approval when requesting the time off.

610
00:52:16,296 --> 00:52:18,256
Specifically, a concern in our office,

611
00:52:18,436 --> 00:52:21,356
the Treasurer's Office, would be during tax season.

612
00:52:21,576 --> 00:52:25,216
We have two tax seasons that extends 30 plus days

613
00:52:25,216 --> 00:52:27,616
where the employees are needed to be at work

614
00:52:27,616 --> 00:52:28,996
to provide customer service.

615
00:52:30,336 --> 00:52:32,696
This would minimize our window of opportunity

616
00:52:32,696 --> 00:52:37,896
to utilize the proposed floating holidays and lastly my concern would be the

617
00:52:37,896 --> 00:52:44,016
terms to obtain those floating holidays such as completing your

618
00:52:44,016 --> 00:52:47,896
your probation like you have to with the personal holidays or if those would be

619
00:52:47,896 --> 00:52:55,276
granted to you at the time of higher. Thank you for your time. Linda Gaegos.

620
00:53:05,346 --> 00:53:05,906
Hello

621
00:53:05,906 --> 00:53:10,566
Mr. Chairman and commissioners of course it goes without saying if we are going the

622
00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,426
the direction of adopting one of the resolutions

623
00:53:12,426 --> 00:53:14,886
between one holiday, floating holiday, or two,

624
00:53:15,326 --> 00:53:17,346
is the consensus of the assessor's office

625
00:53:17,346 --> 00:53:20,266
that they prefer to floating holiday supposed to the one.

626
00:53:21,026 --> 00:53:22,286
Of course that goes without saying,

627
00:53:22,566 --> 00:53:26,906
but just to wear wear, the office that employees do notice

628
00:53:26,906 --> 00:53:28,166
when these things are happening.

629
00:53:28,906 --> 00:53:30,926
And I think that there were some people

630
00:53:30,926 --> 00:53:32,826
that I know mentioned sent some emails

631
00:53:34,026 --> 00:53:37,126
to the commissioners and to the county manager.

632
00:53:37,826 --> 00:53:39,986
So, but again, just let you know the general consensus

633
00:53:39,986 --> 00:53:44,586
please if you're going to make that change to at least keep the two holidays

634
00:53:44,586 --> 00:53:47,146
rather than taking one away. Thank you very much.

635
00:53:47,366 --> 00:53:47,726
Thank you.

636
00:53:49,316 --> 00:53:50,236
No other public comments?

637
00:53:50,896 --> 00:53:57,076
So I'd like to open the floor to discussion from the commissioners. Any comments?

638
00:54:00,186 --> 00:54:07,046
We have two resolutions in front of us. One is the one day floating and the other has two day floating.

639
00:54:07,046 --> 00:54:17,486
and the motion on the table is to repeal the 12, 13, 18 in favor of one of those.

640
00:54:17,986 --> 00:54:20,166
Now, you caught the

641
00:54:27,626 --> 00:54:34,266
options and we decide whether we want to proceed with one of the two resolutions that are in front of us.

642
00:54:34,266 --> 00:54:35,026
Mr.

643
00:54:40,006 --> 00:54:40,166
Chairman.

644
00:54:40,786 --> 00:54:41,966
Mr. Mayor Black.

645
00:54:43,186 --> 00:54:46,706
Let me thank the county employees first of being here.

646
00:54:46,826 --> 00:54:48,426
I very much appreciate it.

647
00:54:48,566 --> 00:54:52,566
And especially Mr. Romero.

648
00:54:53,466 --> 00:54:55,066
Thank you as well.

649
00:54:55,266 --> 00:55:00,366
You definitely have shaped my thinking on this.

650
00:55:00,546 --> 00:55:01,486
Thank you for that.

651
00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:08,346
Same thing with Adam Abrayu in your office, Madam Assessor.

652
00:55:08,346 --> 00:55:13,526
I kind of like the tooth loading holidays, I give a little bit more flexibility, I think

653
00:55:13,526 --> 00:55:16,726
to the county employees.

654
00:55:17,806 --> 00:55:23,566
You know, if the county is having a budget crisis and we're under a physically constrained

655
00:55:23,566 --> 00:55:29,086
environment, which we are, you know, people like two things, they like time off and they like

656
00:55:29,086 --> 00:55:30,666
money, and I get that.

657
00:55:31,266 --> 00:55:36,226
And if you can't give them a raise here and there, and I think we actually, I don't think

658
00:55:36,226 --> 00:55:40,826
been five years correct me from wrong I thought we've given them raises whether it was some

659
00:55:40,826 --> 00:55:49,286
parachanges right but you know these county employees here work extremely hard and they support

660
00:55:50,326 --> 00:55:59,266
over 140,000 residents in sandable county every day whether they're patrolling the streets or at

661
00:55:59,266 --> 00:56:05,266
the firehouse detention center treasurers office public works is all over the place and

662
00:56:07,246 --> 00:56:11,766
For the most part, I think they love what they do, and I think they should be compensated

663
00:56:11,766 --> 00:56:12,566
for that.

664
00:56:12,886 --> 00:56:14,246
It's a tough job.

665
00:56:14,686 --> 00:56:17,546
The benefits, like Mr. Marrow said, are very good.

666
00:56:17,926 --> 00:56:18,926
I think you would agree with that.

667
00:56:19,066 --> 00:56:22,746
That's one of the reasons that I think some people are attracted to working here at the

668
00:56:22,746 --> 00:56:23,266
county level.

669
00:56:25,826 --> 00:56:28,906
But I'm willing to decide with what she said.

670
00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:35,446
I think she was exactly spot on, and there's a lot of family issues that people have, and

671
00:56:35,446 --> 00:56:39,866
And it's tough to take some time off to mitigate some of those family issues.

672
00:56:40,226 --> 00:56:43,686
So I really like what you said.

673
00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:45,606
So thank you.

674
00:56:46,586 --> 00:56:47,746
I'm going to support that.

675
00:56:48,386 --> 00:56:48,906
Other comments?

676
00:56:49,786 --> 00:56:50,066
Chairman.

677
00:56:50,546 --> 00:56:51,106
Mr. Michael?

678
00:56:53,006 --> 00:57:01,206
You know, last year we did, we were with floating calendar in January and we decided to,

679
00:57:01,206 --> 00:57:09,926
But this body decided to go ahead and give a two days of spring break to the employees

680
00:57:09,926 --> 00:57:16,866
and here we are in July and we're already talking about next year and we haven't even

681
00:57:16,866 --> 00:57:25,026
gone a year as one of the young ladies mentioned about how this resolution went about and we

682
00:57:25,026 --> 00:57:29,086
haven't given it a chance to see how it plays out as time goes on.

683
00:57:31,436 --> 00:57:38,396
During the time that this holiday went on, I don't know how many people came up and thanked

684
00:57:38,396 --> 00:57:40,676
me, and I told them, it wasn't just me.

685
00:57:40,856 --> 00:57:45,856
It was a commission as a whole to give you guys those two days.

686
00:57:47,736 --> 00:57:52,456
For a while there, they called it an Easter holiday, and we said, well, that doesn't work

687
00:57:52,456 --> 00:57:54,936
because we didn't want to make a religious implication there.

688
00:57:55,536 --> 00:57:57,356
So we went with a spring break.

689
00:57:57,356 --> 00:58:03,696
I think the employees really appreciated it and enjoyed their two days of time off.

690
00:58:04,136 --> 00:58:09,076
That it costs us more money, I don't know how much more money really costs us to be closed

691
00:58:09,076 --> 00:58:09,716
for two days.

692
00:58:10,756 --> 00:58:16,756
But I think the employees really appreciated it from the top down, from the assistant's

693
00:58:16,756 --> 00:58:23,296
office, from the treasurer's office, from public works, people like that that really benefited

694
00:58:23,296 --> 00:58:31,676
from those two days of spending time with their families and I think we should you know if we're

695
00:58:31,676 --> 00:58:37,636
going to do anything about repealing this I would favor a floating but I'm not crazy about the

696
00:58:37,636 --> 00:58:43,136
floating because some people can't take that time off on the floating and that way

697
00:58:43,276 --> 00:58:57,556
If we close, people are going to be off for those consecutive days. And two consecutive days is a lot for people to appreciate. So that's my comment on that. Thank you. Any other comment?

698
00:58:59,576 --> 00:59:14,276
Where's your book? Thank you. I really appreciate all of the employees who are able to come out today and express their opinions. And we did receive some emails. And that is helpful.

699
00:59:14,276 --> 00:59:17,056
when trying to figure out what's the best course of action.

700
00:59:17,716 --> 00:59:18,876
But I have to back up a little.

701
00:59:19,036 --> 00:59:22,596
I wasn't here when this original resolution was passed.

702
00:59:23,196 --> 00:59:27,336
And the feedback that I actually received prior to being elected

703
00:59:27,336 --> 00:59:32,756
was surprise that we were actually closed for business.

704
00:59:34,136 --> 00:59:38,676
And for many of us who've been in industry or in the corporate world

705
00:59:38,676 --> 00:59:41,716
that isn't exactly how it works.

706
00:59:41,716 --> 00:59:49,436
lots of us work jobs that, you know, where they run 24, 7, 3, and 65 days a year as our

707
00:59:50,376 --> 00:59:57,416
emergency services are in our public, all of our public safety officers do. So when

708
00:59:57,416 --> 01:00:05,096
I have public comment from, you know, my constituents saying, well, what's spring break for the

709
01:00:05,096 --> 01:00:12,416
government. I'm a little confused by that. So I just wanted you all to be aware that I strongly

710
01:00:12,416 --> 01:00:21,336
support not losing any days, but in terms of the philosophy, I do think that there being floating

711
01:00:21,336 --> 01:00:28,676
days is more appropriate for people of all ethnic groups, religions, et cetera, and our natives

712
01:00:28,676 --> 01:00:34,796
who are celebrating feast days might want to choose a different day versus the spring

713
01:00:34,796 --> 01:00:41,456
break day. So I just wanted us to be cognizant of the fact that not all of us think or

714
01:00:41,456 --> 01:00:46,456
feel the same way about this. And so we have to reflect on it very carefully in what's

715
01:00:46,456 --> 01:00:49,116
in the best interest of all of us. Thank you.

716
01:00:49,996 --> 01:00:56,876
And you look at me. This is the way I think we need to proceed on this. The motion is

717
01:00:56,876 --> 01:01:03,376
to repeal and replace so we would need to deal with the replacement if that's what we're

718
01:01:03,376 --> 01:01:11,856
going to do sort of an amendment to this motion. So the next step would be if you were

719
01:01:11,856 --> 01:01:20,076
someone who wishes to make a motion and one of the replacement resolutions that they would

720
01:01:20,076 --> 01:01:26,536
do so and there would be a second in any discussion on that one in a vote on that and after a vote

721
01:01:26,536 --> 01:01:33,536
on that, then there would be a vote on the main motion. So if the amendment resolution

722
01:01:33,536 --> 01:01:41,516
failed, then there would be a motion on the resolution. If that failed, then it would

723
01:01:41,516 --> 01:01:46,036
stay the same as the way it is today. So that's where we are.

724
01:01:49,096 --> 01:01:50,756
So for moving forward, someone

725
01:01:50,756 --> 01:01:53,416
needs to make a motion on one of the two resolutions.

726
01:01:55,996 --> 01:02:03,456
I move that we repeal the original resolution and replace it with the two floating holidays version.

727
01:02:03,956 --> 01:02:05,076
Do we have a second?

728
01:02:06,156 --> 01:02:06,616
Second.

729
01:02:07,056 --> 01:02:10,256
Any discussion on that resolution?

730
01:02:12,576 --> 01:02:13,096
Mr. Brock.

731
01:02:13,356 --> 01:02:21,136
County Manager Mays, can you clarify the question concerning would the floating apply to all employees?

732
01:02:21,856 --> 01:02:38,036
would all employees newly hired receive that and I'm somewhere in policy it seemed to me there might be something about if as you know if they can be allowed to do it is there is that in the wording anywhere.

733
01:02:38,676 --> 01:02:46,396
Commissioner Mr. Chairman commissioners this would not be changing any of our current personnel rules and regulations with regards to holidays.

734
01:02:46,396 --> 01:02:52,516
So, these would just simply apply the way that we have them in our current policy.

735
01:02:53,216 --> 01:02:56,576
Can you state what that policy is?

736
01:02:57,616 --> 01:03:01,336
I'm going to stand for a question that's been sent here.

737
01:03:01,656 --> 01:03:08,896
I believe that it's the once you meet your probationary period that you are entitled to holiday pay.

738
01:03:11,596 --> 01:03:12,076
Mr. Chairman.

739
01:03:12,296 --> 01:03:13,056
We should.

740
01:03:13,596 --> 01:03:16,756
County measure may, so for instance, I need to clarify that.

741
01:03:16,756 --> 01:03:24,296
For instance, if the two floating holidays is adopted, that's for the calendar year, is that correct?

742
01:03:25,016 --> 01:03:25,916
That would be correct.

743
01:03:26,696 --> 01:03:35,176
And for some reason, the employee has circumstances where he or she can't use one or both of those days.

744
01:03:35,836 --> 01:03:40,736
Does that roll over to the following calendar year, those days lost?

745
01:03:41,736 --> 01:03:56,976
You have the opportunity to retain 80 hours to roll over so if in fact you are over a certain amount of hours you can get paid out at the end of the year so they will not lose them.

746
01:03:57,856 --> 01:04:04,156
And the same thing happens for you sickly when you hit a certain bank you have the opportunity to cash that out as well.

747
01:04:06,136 --> 01:04:12,896
So when you're on probation, that's only applied to vacation time that you have to be off of probation.

748
01:04:14,076 --> 01:04:17,536
A floating holiday is automatically given to all new employees.

749
01:04:20,786 --> 01:04:23,026
It's a considered a personal day.

750
01:04:23,606 --> 01:04:28,266
All employees eat detention officers, deputies, fire.

751
01:04:29,486 --> 01:04:31,586
Exactly, but it allows the county to stay open.

752
01:04:32,426 --> 01:04:33,006
That's the difference.

753
01:04:34,126 --> 01:04:38,546
other comments? Madam Clerk, call the roll.

754
01:04:39,966 --> 01:04:44,146
That we're calling the roll on the two floating holidays resolution.

755
01:04:45,646 --> 01:04:49,186
Commissioner Brock. Yes, Commissioner Meek.

756
01:04:49,546 --> 01:04:50,946
Yes, Commissioner Eichel. No.

757
01:04:51,426 --> 01:04:52,266
Vice Chair Vlok.

758
01:04:52,906 --> 01:04:53,126
Aye.

759
01:04:53,506 --> 01:04:54,086
And Chair Heil.

760
01:04:54,306 --> 01:04:54,486
Yes.

761
01:04:55,026 --> 01:05:01,506
So now we need the motion to repeal in favor of what we just approved in terms of the replacement.

762
01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:02,746
So moved.

763
01:05:02,746 --> 01:05:03,546
motion.

764
01:05:05,586 --> 01:05:10,126
I just want to know if there's any other discussion. Any other discussion?

765
01:05:10,366 --> 01:05:16,566
Madam Clerk. Commissioner Brock. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes.

766
01:05:16,766 --> 01:05:21,366
Michael. No. Commissioner Block. Hi. Excuse me. Yes.

767
01:05:23,446 --> 01:05:23,886
Okay.

768
01:05:23,919 --> 01:05:33,059
And moving on to the office of the county attorney. It has to do with a settlement between the Department of Justice and Sanable County.

769
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:55,529
Good evening, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. I'm here before you to ask that the commission approve a settlement agreement between the United States of America and Sanable County regarding the accessibility of pulling places as it comes as it applies to Americans with Disability Act.

770
01:05:57,349 --> 01:06:01,689
Accessibility for the selected polling places from Sandwell County.

771
01:06:02,709 --> 01:06:10,089
By a way of a little bit of a background on June 7th, 2016, on an election day for

772
01:06:10,089 --> 01:06:15,849
a primary election, the Department of Justice visited 26 of the county's 48 polling places

773
01:06:16,169 --> 01:06:21,769
and found that many of the polling places were not accessible to persons with disabilities

774
01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:28,189
and violated the American according to them and their estimation violated the Americans

775
01:06:28,189 --> 01:06:35,249
with Disability Act based on these allegations, the Department of Justice then in April

776
01:06:35,249 --> 01:06:42,009
of this year visited again and provided assistance to the county in discussing with polling

777
01:06:42,009 --> 01:06:43,989
locations about what could be done.

778
01:06:43,989 --> 01:06:53,049
So this, if this settlement agreement is approved by the commission, then the county would

779
01:06:53,049 --> 01:07:00,689
agree to work with the Department of Justice in ensuring that the selected polling places

780
01:07:00,689 --> 01:07:06,889
are in compliance with the Americans with Disability Act within three years.

781
01:07:09,219 --> 01:07:09,999
Thank you.

782
01:07:10,179 --> 01:07:10,819
Could I have a motion?

783
01:07:12,619 --> 01:07:13,179
Some moved.

784
01:07:13,179 --> 01:07:17,599
second. Second comments or questions?

785
01:07:22,949 --> 01:07:26,129
We have how many years for completion? Three.

786
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:40,279
We call from our earlier readings. There's an action plan that we are engaged in to evaluate

787
01:07:40,279 --> 01:07:45,599
those locations that don't comply and see what we need to do to bring them into compliance.

788
01:07:46,179 --> 01:07:48,019
That's correct, Mr. Chairman.

789
01:07:49,059 --> 01:07:51,419
Many of the locations are not owned by the county.

790
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:56,079
Several of them are, I believe, seven of them are on Pueblo locations.

791
01:07:56,299 --> 01:08:01,059
And there are also three locations on the Navajo reservation.

792
01:08:01,779 --> 01:08:15,439
And so we're working with the tribes and Pueblos to encord nation to make them their buildings in which the tribes and Pueblo's own and all the other governmental agencies as well as private agencies.

793
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:24,399
own to become in compliance, because not only is it beneficial to the county on election day and all the electorates into voting access, which is

794
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:35,779
up most important to the county, but it also benefits those people who frequent those buildings every, the 364 other days of every year.

795
01:08:35,779 --> 01:08:40,559
So I understand, too, that we have somewhat of a dichotomy here and that the

796
01:08:40,559 --> 01:08:45,919
problems are not required to be ADA compliant, but we are required to have ADA

797
01:08:45,919 --> 01:08:51,219
compliant sites even though they may be on the Pueblos. That's correct. And so

798
01:08:51,219 --> 01:08:56,439
we're asking for cooperation from our neighbors who live in Pueblos and tribes

799
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:01,379
and their government and their leadership and so far we've gotten voices of

800
01:09:01,379 --> 01:09:02,799
cooperation from them.

801
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:04,219
Any other comments?

802
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,759
No, but well it is a brief one.

803
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:13,679
Thank you for your presentation today on this issue as

804
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:17,079
well as several others with the 10 Southern Poem loans today.

805
01:09:17,299 --> 01:09:21,779
I thought that it was a very effective meeting and I knew you had

806
01:09:21,779 --> 01:09:22,899
follow-up after that.

807
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:24,699
Thank you.

808
01:09:25,239 --> 01:09:27,479
If no other comments, Madam Clerk?

809
01:09:28,459 --> 01:09:29,059
Commissioner Brock.

810
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:30,099
Yes.

811
01:09:30,099 --> 01:09:30,819
Yes, come here for me.

812
01:09:31,099 --> 01:09:31,479
Yes.

813
01:09:31,799 --> 01:09:32,559
Come here for Michael.

814
01:09:32,859 --> 01:09:32,999
Yes.

815
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:34,059
Vice Chair Block.

816
01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:34,599
Aye.

817
01:09:34,839 --> 01:09:35,459
And Chair Hyal.

818
01:09:35,559 --> 01:09:35,799
Yes.

819
01:09:48,500 --> 01:10:16,780
Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission. Before I get into item 11A, just some background, really quickly, this, to items on the agenda this evening are two of three professional service agreements that we have in the county and we have had for numerous years that help serve the unincorporated areas in the more rural areas of the county. These are going to be part, if you remember a couple meetings ago, talked about doing an analysis

820
01:10:16,780 --> 01:10:21,840
on the county, looking at all the costs and services we receive, and we provide throughout

821
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:27,120
the county and having that information back to you. That is proving to be a pretty large process,

822
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:32,040
so this will be part of that process as well. However, in the meantime, we felt it was important to go

823
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:38,240
ahead and get these contracts for service approved so that those entities can continue to serve the

824
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,620
populations in the unincorporated areas of the county. So that's just a quick little background.

825
01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:57,780
around item number 11a is a request for a motion to approve professional services contract renewal in the amount of $109,725 with Presbyterian Medical Services for ambulance transport in the unincorporated areas of Regina, Lahara, and the surrounding areas of the Northwest corridor.

826
01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:02,670
Could I have a motion?

827
01:11:03,370 --> 01:11:07,190
So I move to second comments or questions.

828
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:09,170
Mr. Chairman.

829
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:10,270
Commissioner.

830
01:11:12,010 --> 01:11:16,270
This is in regards to something you just touched upon.

831
01:11:17,130 --> 01:11:22,450
And I think Mr. Chairman, when last time I think you were in front of us, you had a piece

832
01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:29,610
of paper that showed various municipalities around the county that have not paid Santa

833
01:11:29,610 --> 01:11:34,250
of all county for services rendered regarding first responder services, is that correct?

834
01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:38,490
That was for E901 type costs.

835
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:46,710
Right, right, and I've been looking for a total cost overall of how much the county is owed

836
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:54,810
and I know Mr. Burpo I think is doing some agreements right now with that, but the question that

837
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:59,550
maybe you might not be able to answer but for the county manager is where are we

838
01:11:59,550 --> 01:12:07,230
with those status agreements? And is there any discussion or negotiation on getting a lot of

839
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:14,490
that money back to the county? I mean, that's the money that can go toward raises and other issues

840
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:23,810
here in the county. Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, we actually were successful in receiving a good portion

841
01:12:23,810 --> 01:12:29,270
of the revenues that we were expecting for the E911 contracts this last

842
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:33,050
fiscal year they came in kind of late in June but we did get a number of them

843
01:12:33,050 --> 01:12:37,450
in there is still one outstanding at this time that we are still working

844
01:12:37,450 --> 01:12:42,910
with on trying to get that who's that the village of Cuba so we are still

845
01:12:42,910 --> 01:12:46,550
working with the mayor up there to try and get that information or that check

846
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:51,190
cut back to us so that we can go ahead and collect for last fiscal year and the

847
01:12:51,190 --> 01:12:55,910
new contracts, obviously, we would want to send them out very soon, but as I mentioned,

848
01:12:56,150 --> 01:13:01,190
we are really trying to do an analysis of all costs, all services provided, and received

849
01:13:01,190 --> 01:13:06,830
before we determine a true cost that we need to be associating with these contracts.

850
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:09,450
Do we ever get that piece of paper on the website like I asked?

851
01:13:10,050 --> 01:13:10,190
Yes.

852
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:11,690
Is that posted on the website for the public?

853
01:13:11,890 --> 01:13:12,190
Comments shirt?

854
01:13:12,310 --> 01:13:13,170
Yes, sir, I believe yes.

855
01:13:13,630 --> 01:13:20,810
And those costs was that just for a specific year were those costs that were over a period

856
01:13:20,810 --> 01:13:25,110
to time. That was for a one-year period, sir. So are there other years that the county was not

857
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:32,510
getting paid? Yes, we can go back and reconcile and run a report basically to show what years we have

858
01:13:32,510 --> 01:13:36,490
been paid, what years we haven't been paid and where that is. So what's the total of that? Do we know

859
01:13:36,490 --> 01:13:42,670
what the title is on now? I know. Are we going to be able to get that total? We also in process of

860
01:13:42,670 --> 01:13:47,230
negotiating getting paid back that money from those different entities as well that owe the county that.

861
01:13:47,230 --> 01:13:49,790
Commissioner, I think that could be definitely part of the conversation.

862
01:13:50,090 --> 01:13:54,110
We have part of the analysis that we want to do moving forward with these professional

863
01:13:54,110 --> 01:13:58,610
service agreements and the E9-1-1 contracts is to sit down with the leadership of these

864
01:13:58,610 --> 01:14:03,750
different municipalities and tribes and try to figure out how to approach both that and

865
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:03,930
us.

866
01:14:04,030 --> 01:14:12,610
I understand just from a fair, when you have taxpayers paying a lot of money in taxes and people

867
01:14:12,610 --> 01:14:16,890
are getting services that they're not paying for, there's going to be some type of negotiation

868
01:14:16,890 --> 01:14:18,570
to get some of that money back somehow.

869
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:22,830
It's not fair to the vast majority of the people in this county.

870
01:14:23,850 --> 01:14:29,770
So I would like to kind of get a little bit more details on how far back this problem's

871
01:14:29,770 --> 01:14:33,770
been going, and why weren't we notified of that before, or the public certainly doesn't

872
01:14:33,770 --> 01:14:38,130
know that, and I think that's an issue, and that's something that should be worked out.

873
01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:43,110
It's only fair to taxpayers across the county, I would imagine.

874
01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:56,290
And, Commissioner, it is part of my analysis that I want to look at, and I will include that when we have those discussions with the leadership of those different communities to see if we can work on that and work on some backpacks.

875
01:14:56,290 --> 01:15:09,210
Yeah, because we work with these other communities on other projects that we give them money for, but yet when it comes to life-saving services, we're not getting paid back.

876
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:14,290
But Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, one of the other things that we're looking at, though,

877
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:20,370
too, is also what services have we received potentially in lieu of.

878
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:26,450
So there may be an offsetting service there that you need to better identify and evaluate

879
01:15:26,450 --> 01:15:27,570
those costs as well.

880
01:15:27,790 --> 01:15:32,230
So it's a big picture, every community, and tribe throughout the county is a little bit different

881
01:15:32,230 --> 01:15:33,450
on how it operates right now.

882
01:15:33,450 --> 01:15:45,710
So, I agree with you and those situations need to be evaluated so that we can see what is owed but potentially what are we receiving to that may need to be offset via that compensate?

883
01:15:45,870 --> 01:15:58,410
I think the taxpayers wrote a lot of money that hasn't been collected over many years and when they see that amount of money that total amount of dollars that they're owed and they haven't been paid, they're not going to be too happy.

884
01:15:59,150 --> 01:16:23,390
Mr. Chairman and commissioners, if I may, to one of the important factors in all of this, is that, you know, we don't want to be robotically carrying on contracts with the same amount like we have tonight or robotically charging costs forward to the communities without analyzing them.

885
01:16:23,390 --> 01:16:32,450
I mean, it may be like Eric said that there are credits to be had or cost that have gone up or down, and we haven't looked at that.

886
01:16:32,650 --> 01:16:40,390
And so what we're trying to do is understand what the true value of all of these things are to be able to analyze it.

887
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:47,990
It could go up or down in somebody's favor, that's very possible too, but we're just not doing business as usual.

888
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:55,010
we're trying to assess what is the true cost of these things today and make sure that we are

889
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:59,490
charging what should be charged. Mr. McCoy.

890
01:17:02,350 --> 01:17:05,390
Based on what I'm hearing is that we have two different

891
01:17:05,390 --> 01:17:11,030
situations that we're discussing here. One of them is a professional service agreement for ambulance

892
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:18,450
services and not the not what is owed for emergency services that are being provided for

893
01:17:18,450 --> 01:17:21,210
to San Debalt County and for the Village of Cuba.

894
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:24,730
The Village of Cuba, a lot of times,

895
01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:26,910
service not just the Village of Cuba,

896
01:17:27,130 --> 01:17:28,830
and even though it's not a county entity,

897
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:31,950
they're out and about all over the county's

898
01:17:31,950 --> 01:17:36,590
servicing wrecks, fires, and everything else

899
01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:38,550
that they don't get compensated for.

900
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:42,130
So a lot of people don't realize that these things occur.

901
01:17:43,570 --> 01:17:47,010
And yes, I understand that Cuba owes that money.

902
01:17:47,170 --> 01:17:47,790
Don't get me wrong.

903
01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:53,790
I'm not I'm not trying to alleviate them from their debt, but the fact of the matter is that it goes back not just

904
01:17:54,490 --> 01:17:58,990
This administration it goes back to the previous administration as to how much it was owed

905
01:17:58,990 --> 01:18:03,990
It was not just this administration that is is responsible for that

906
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:06,070
But the fact of matter is that

907
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:10,390
That you know a lot of times not everything is black and white up there

908
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:14,850
You can't just say I'm going to charge you for going

909
01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:21,810
You know, five miles out of Cuba when you got it when I'll give you an example when that wreck happened with the fire

910
01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:28,190
Chief from or fire department from Bloomfield who took care of that wreck if it wasn't Cuba

911
01:18:28,190 --> 01:18:33,910
Cuba fire department a couple weeks ago. They were in the middle of 550 with another wreck

912
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:42,910
It was Cuba fire department. Nobody else yet. They're there the ones that have to come out of their district in Cuba to go service the

913
01:18:42,910 --> 01:18:50,390
county. So a lot of times people don't realize that. And yes, we want to make

914
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:54,530
sure that the taxpayers get their money. Well, I'm sure that when there is a

915
01:18:54,530 --> 01:19:02,030
rack or anything else out there, somebody needs to respond. And and a lot of

916
01:19:02,030 --> 01:19:12,350
times it is Cuba fire department or Cuba PD. So well, I think this is part of the

917
01:19:12,350 --> 01:19:15,350
dispatch, I guess we can track almost a minute by minute.

918
01:19:16,330 --> 01:19:18,830
And so this is part of the analysis.

919
01:19:19,210 --> 01:19:21,470
We had talked about changing these rates,

920
01:19:21,470 --> 01:19:23,690
et cetera, this year, and we said no.

921
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:27,170
Let's continue these contracts, but over this next year,

922
01:19:27,310 --> 01:19:29,850
let's not go back and look at information.

923
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:34,730
But let's track this forward, because one of the points

924
01:19:34,730 --> 01:19:37,610
that we made is we may find that on these things,

925
01:19:38,130 --> 01:19:39,010
we should be paying more.

926
01:19:39,010 --> 01:19:47,210
So let's go look at it and see what the situation is before we and Mr. Chairman try to quote Cuba is a very valued resource

927
01:19:47,210 --> 01:19:54,630
That entire northwest corridor and again, and I echo what the chairman and county manager said part of this analysis is to look at that

928
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:57,050
See how many times are going out into the county?

929
01:19:57,470 --> 01:20:01,570
How does that impact the county and the citizens of the county and where does that

930
01:20:01,570 --> 01:20:07,690
Factor into the different costs and services throughout the rest of the region and with the other entities that are a part of it

931
01:20:07,690 --> 01:20:12,070
So that is part of the service and that is part of the analysis that we are looking at.

932
01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:31,130
Lastly, Mr. Mention, I got a call today from people from Presbyterian Medical Services and they wanted to meet in reference to is this contract finalized or with them or is there something still going on because they want to meet sometime in August and they said that you're going to be part of that meeting.

933
01:20:32,590 --> 01:20:58,690
that is on a separate note, there is we are discussing with them on some operational items that they have that we're working with them on, it does not have to necessarily do with this contract of this time, this is for them to continue providing services to the unincorporated areas of the county that is going to continue, we are trying to partner with them a little bit better and we have some ideas to enhance the services of that area that we wanted that we're exploring, that's what that is in reference to.

934
01:20:58,690 --> 01:20:59,930
Okay, thank you.

935
01:21:00,170 --> 01:21:08,750
Lastly, Mr. Chairman, I would say to Commissioner Eichwald, you know, we've had these professional service agreements for a long time, have we not?

936
01:21:09,670 --> 01:21:14,810
And I think it's completely appropriate to ask to make sure that it's going to be followed and the money's going to be paid.

937
01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,150
That's not asking too much, that's not out of context of this particular item.

938
01:21:18,710 --> 01:21:24,190
And I certainly appreciate what the Cuba Fire Department, Police Department does by responding outside Cuba limits.

939
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:38,610
and if Cuba and the mayor in the town council up there want to have some type of service agreements with the county, some type of reciprocal thing, they can do that, but the question is totally appropriate because the taxpayers want to know where their money is going.

940
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:40,510
So thank you Mr. Chairman.

941
01:21:41,630 --> 01:21:42,750
Chair, you're welcome.

942
01:21:43,310 --> 01:21:49,670
Mr. Chair, I'd just like to say, I think some of this is rectified by our last meeting

943
01:21:49,670 --> 01:21:55,450
when we gave the chief the authority to actually start supervising other departments and

944
01:21:55,450 --> 01:21:56,970
finding out what's going on.

945
01:21:57,530 --> 01:22:01,270
I don't think it's just Cuba, but I think there's other departments that may be responding

946
01:22:01,270 --> 01:22:05,030
to places they have no business going, not Cuba, but other outside ones.

947
01:22:05,230 --> 01:22:09,950
So I think it's his job as a chief to say, you have no business going there if you can't

948
01:22:09,950 --> 01:22:14,990
protect what's here. So those are some broad scope things that I think you have the power to

949
01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:21,110
take care of now. And I think you're doing a good job assessing it. And I think it's, you know

950
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:24,950
what the given take is better than any of us up here, right? Because you're dealing with them every

951
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:25,230
day.

952
01:22:30,850 --> 01:22:35,510
Last track and they didn't make a motion on this. And we just start talking about it. We did

953
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:38,930
Okay, all right in the other discussion

954
01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:41,470
Manage clerk

955
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:49,890
Commissioner Brock and yes, Commissioner meek. Yes, Mr. Eichel. Yes, vice chair block. Hi, and chair. Hi

956
01:22:52,004 --> 01:23:06,224
Thank commissioners, 11b as a request for a motion to approve professional services contract renewal in the amount of 100,000 with Hamas Publow for ambulance transport in the unincorporated areas of the Hamas Valley and surrounding areas. Same situation, this is just for Hamas Publow.

957
01:23:21,767 --> 01:23:23,947
Thank you. Item 12. Thank you.

958
01:23:35,017 --> 01:23:41,677
Door. Door to me, guest director for the, for business and economic development for

959
01:23:41,677 --> 01:23:47,877
sound of all county. Chairman Hyle, members of the commission, what you have before you today on the agenda is a matter of

960
01:23:47,877 --> 01:23:58,997
just process, following the enactment of the ordinance that approved leader project for ex-Novo brewing for the amount of 100,000 at the June 27th

961
01:23:58,997 --> 01:24:08,717
commission meeting. So what you have before you now is the project participation agreement which specifies and outlines the terms in which those funds will be dispersed on that project.

962
01:24:09,297 --> 01:24:12,237
Okay, thank you. Could I have a motion?

963
01:24:13,217 --> 01:24:13,777
So moved.

964
01:24:16,177 --> 01:24:17,377
Any comments or questions?

965
01:24:20,687 --> 01:24:21,087
Madam Clerk.

966
01:24:23,227 --> 01:24:23,907
Commissioner Brock.

967
01:24:24,367 --> 01:24:24,527
Yes.

968
01:24:24,827 --> 01:24:25,367
Mr. Meek.

969
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:25,707
Yes.

970
01:24:25,947 --> 01:24:26,567
Mr. Iquil.

971
01:24:26,747 --> 01:24:26,927
Yes.

972
01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:27,827
Vice Chair Block.

973
01:24:28,227 --> 01:24:28,467
Aye.

974
01:24:28,467 --> 01:24:29,827
and share a hyal. Yes.

975
01:24:30,382 --> 01:24:30,702
Good evening.

976
01:24:35,612 --> 01:25:01,892
Good evening. I'm so happy to have the owners of our wonderful beast row. We refer to blades. So I'd like to invite Kevin and Anya up to give you a brief description of their restaurant and their history in the positive area. I know I'm.

977
01:25:01,892 --> 01:25:07,592
One of those folks that goes there kind of regularly, so I'd recommend it.

978
01:25:08,172 --> 01:25:08,752
Thank you.

979
01:25:09,552 --> 01:25:12,852
Good evening everybody, am I close enough by?

980
01:25:14,292 --> 01:25:15,292
We are Blades-Bee's truck.

981
01:25:15,552 --> 01:25:17,452
We've been in placidas for about 10 years.

982
01:25:19,192 --> 01:25:27,552
We have a full liquor license that we use, and after 10 years, we realize of a burden that

983
01:25:27,552 --> 01:25:29,992
I was on business money wise.

984
01:25:30,652 --> 01:25:34,412
60 to 70% of our business is beer and wine and not liquor.

985
01:25:35,192 --> 01:25:37,032
But in the meantime, we still pay every month

986
01:25:37,032 --> 01:25:41,292
for that liquor license and the companies

987
01:25:41,292 --> 01:25:42,092
are coming with that.

988
01:25:42,852 --> 01:25:47,272
So last fall, we had a chance to think and talk about

989
01:25:47,272 --> 01:25:51,252
to see that we didn't have to take that liquor license anymore.

990
01:25:51,872 --> 01:25:54,032
The owners decided that they could actually sell it

991
01:25:54,032 --> 01:25:55,752
to somebody else and we could gather on.

992
01:25:55,752 --> 01:26:02,612
So that's when we decided after long thinking about it that this is the time to just apply for the beer and wine license

993
01:26:02,612 --> 01:26:09,732
for restaurants has been there 10 years and hopefully it will help us thrive a little bit more.

994
01:26:10,112 --> 01:26:14,612
We are thriving already and we're very thankful for our guests to come to blade.

995
01:26:15,512 --> 01:26:17,412
But so we ask you approval for that.

996
01:26:18,852 --> 01:26:24,012
Because we are in the unaccompanied part of Sanable County, we not allowed to serve liquor on Sunday.

997
01:26:24,592 --> 01:26:27,172
And because of that, we lose a whole day of sales.

998
01:26:27,772 --> 01:26:28,892
Did we have that sale?

999
01:26:29,212 --> 01:26:30,852
Then we probably would thrive a little better

1000
01:26:30,852 --> 01:26:31,772
with that liquor license.

1001
01:26:32,332 --> 01:26:33,892
But since we don't have those sales,

1002
01:26:34,052 --> 01:26:37,632
that will be decided that we will have to go to a beer and wine.

1003
01:26:38,232 --> 01:26:41,672
So rather than paying $1,600 a month for the liquor license,

1004
01:26:41,892 --> 01:26:44,932
we will pay $1,500 for the year for the beer and wine.

1005
01:26:45,112 --> 01:26:47,172
And I think that tells you it would save us a lot of money.

1006
01:26:48,232 --> 01:26:49,692
And thanks for listening tonight.

1007
01:26:50,952 --> 01:26:52,112
So can I have a motion?

1008
01:26:53,192 --> 01:26:54,152
So moved.

1009
01:26:54,472 --> 01:26:55,212
Do we have a second?

1010
01:26:55,492 --> 01:26:55,932
Second.

1011
01:26:56,932 --> 01:26:57,992
Come answer questions.

1012
01:26:59,252 --> 01:27:02,252
And just like to say, it is a gem out there that you have.

1013
01:27:02,532 --> 01:27:03,792
I go out there several times.

1014
01:27:04,312 --> 01:27:06,092
I thought you looked familiar but I wasn't quite sure.

1015
01:27:06,112 --> 01:27:09,572
Yeah, it's a very nice restaurant and you do a fine job there.

1016
01:27:09,692 --> 01:27:10,232
I wish you luck.

1017
01:27:10,472 --> 01:27:11,592
But that's a great place.

1018
01:27:12,972 --> 01:27:13,472
Excuse me.

1019
01:27:13,932 --> 01:27:17,752
My understanding is that you're selling your liquor license?

1020
01:27:18,372 --> 01:27:21,092
Actually, we lease the liquor license and they sell it.

1021
01:27:21,092 --> 01:27:30,292
So the lesser or yeah the lesser will sell the liquor license because we don't own it,

1022
01:27:30,292 --> 01:27:36,012
we lease it and that's why it's car so it's already for sale or yes as I understand

1023
01:27:36,012 --> 01:27:40,872
they are already sold it which you know puts us kind of a predicament because as soon as

1024
01:27:40,872 --> 01:27:49,032
or six months are over we will find ourselves without any license period and if I'm not mistaken

1025
01:27:49,032 --> 01:27:52,492
and this liquor license has to stay in San Juan County for that I'm mistaken.

1026
01:27:53,212 --> 01:27:56,192
I'm not quite sure how that works with it with dear liquor license.

1027
01:27:56,532 --> 01:27:58,492
That is something that they take care of, not us.

1028
01:27:58,992 --> 01:28:03,512
Mr. Chair, Commissioner, I don't know the answer to that question.

1029
01:28:04,692 --> 01:28:04,952
I'm sorry.

1030
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:07,232
I can get back to you on that.

1031
01:28:07,812 --> 01:28:08,832
I don't know it right now.

1032
01:28:09,732 --> 01:28:10,372
Okay, thank you.

1033
01:28:12,532 --> 01:28:16,912
Well, I just hope one day we can rectify our situation with Sundays.

1034
01:28:16,912 --> 01:28:22,492
that's one of our one of my goals that one day that will give you the

1035
01:28:22,492 --> 01:28:28,832
opportunity to have mimosas with bunch but in the meantime I'm so glad that

1036
01:28:28,832 --> 01:28:33,232
you're we're able to do this today I hope it'll be the right thing. Mr. Chairman

1037
01:28:33,232 --> 01:28:43,552
one question. Do you make Harry? If I make Harry? Do you make it there? No. We do a lot

1038
01:28:43,552 --> 01:28:52,232
of seafood. That's one of my specialties. Herring is, yeah, that's very particular to a certain

1039
01:28:52,232 --> 01:29:02,832
part of the world of another lens. It's a seasonal thing. The salted herring. But I do love it.

1040
01:29:03,012 --> 01:29:10,532
Yeah. I love it too. I mean, if you've not had herring, you've got to just put the whole thing

1041
01:29:10,532 --> 01:29:12,652
in your mouth and just enjoy. It's an interesting thing.

1042
01:29:12,652 --> 01:29:13,652
Wither without onions.

1043
01:29:14,412 --> 01:29:15,432
Yeah, exactly.

1044
01:29:16,032 --> 01:29:17,992
And let me just say, uh, Duncan Vell.

1045
01:29:18,332 --> 01:29:18,832
Possibly.

1046
01:29:18,972 --> 01:29:20,332
Let's believe for being here.

1047
01:29:20,512 --> 01:29:23,052
And, um, very, very happy to have you from, uh,

1048
01:29:23,472 --> 01:29:23,912
to Netherlands.

1049
01:29:24,232 --> 01:29:25,512
So, thank you.

1050
01:29:25,892 --> 01:29:27,112
Any other comments?

1051
01:29:28,092 --> 01:29:28,652
Madam Clerk?

1052
01:29:29,232 --> 01:29:29,892
Commissioner Brock?

1053
01:29:30,512 --> 01:29:30,832
Yes.

1054
01:29:31,252 --> 01:29:31,812
Commissioner Meek?

1055
01:29:32,032 --> 01:29:32,152
Yes.

1056
01:29:32,652 --> 01:29:32,912
Commissioner Eichel?

1057
01:29:33,132 --> 01:29:33,272
Yes.

1058
01:29:33,512 --> 01:29:34,172
Vice Chair Block?

1059
01:29:34,712 --> 01:29:35,232
Aye.

1060
01:29:35,612 --> 01:29:36,032
Chair Hyal?

1061
01:29:36,312 --> 01:29:36,472
Yes.

1062
01:29:37,812 --> 01:29:38,572
Good luck.

1063
01:29:39,212 --> 01:29:44,452
thank you. I'll have to sneak up there and try it out. We're looking for another

1064
01:29:44,452 --> 01:29:48,392
thing with the fish though. I'm allergic to fish. I swell up and break out in the

1065
01:29:48,392 --> 01:29:52,852
hides. We have all kinds of other choices. They can send you a nice email every week.

1066
01:29:52,952 --> 01:29:54,852
I get it and it tells you exactly what they have.

1067
01:29:57,458 --> 01:30:00,678
Okay, item 14. Division of Public Works.

1068
01:30:12,058 --> 01:30:38,028
Chairman and commissioners, which I have in front of you, is a request for a motion to award contract for construction and recreation center at the Senegal County Fairgrounds through a couple of construction in the amount of $619,000 to $68 on non-clean taxes and to approve the county management and negotiate and send the contract in any amounts upon final approval from the New Mexico Department of Finance. Any other motion? So moved. Second.

1069
01:30:38,028 --> 01:30:45,988
Second. Second. I'm going to answer questions. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kierman, my favorite subject.

1070
01:30:48,188 --> 01:30:52,288
Single bidder, or is this an income bid? No, they'll see the award deal on there. List

1071
01:30:52,288 --> 01:30:59,508
the ones that responded. So it died to be is received. Okay. And then it was not on the lowest

1072
01:30:59,508 --> 01:31:06,248
price, and that is our couple. Okay. And the, what's the period of performance? Two years.

1073
01:31:06,248 --> 01:31:12,288
Well, it turns to 60 days where we have in the contract, but that also lines up with our CDBG grant.

1074
01:31:12,468 --> 01:31:14,028
Okay. Went through the appropriate source selection.

1075
01:31:14,368 --> 01:31:14,468
Yep.

1076
01:31:15,408 --> 01:31:21,728
And it says here that non-colleen taxes and approved the county manager to negotiate

1077
01:31:21,728 --> 01:31:22,528
signed the contract.

1078
01:31:22,568 --> 01:31:24,608
Is that what we normally do?

1079
01:31:24,808 --> 01:31:26,408
County managers have you signed the contract?

1080
01:31:27,308 --> 01:31:27,708
Okay.

1081
01:31:28,068 --> 01:31:31,648
Yeah, and it's going to be approved by the state, the FAA, too, because it's the CDBG funds.

1082
01:31:32,128 --> 01:31:35,008
So we have to send the contract to them for also for their approval, too.

1083
01:31:35,008 --> 01:31:36,028
So I'm sorry, what funds?

1084
01:31:36,528 --> 01:31:38,368
CDBG, Community Development, Block Grant.

1085
01:31:38,528 --> 01:31:38,748
Gotcha.

1086
01:31:39,208 --> 01:31:40,548
So thank you, sir.

1087
01:31:40,748 --> 01:31:42,228
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1088
01:31:42,808 --> 01:31:44,428
Mr. Chairman, I'm sure I grow.

1089
01:31:45,248 --> 01:31:50,708
Mr. Chairman, this 619, that's not the entire amount.

1090
01:31:50,968 --> 01:31:53,928
You're still getting some CDBG money, right?

1091
01:31:54,408 --> 01:31:55,828
Well, no, that's the total amount of that.

1092
01:31:55,828 --> 01:31:56,508
That's the total amount.

1093
01:31:56,748 --> 01:31:58,688
With the building, the playground, everything.

1094
01:31:58,988 --> 01:31:59,248
Everything.

1095
01:31:59,568 --> 01:32:01,548
The only thing we'll have to pay for is we're going to do,

1096
01:32:01,608 --> 01:32:02,428
we do the earthwork.

1097
01:32:02,428 --> 01:32:06,488
and then we're doing the parking lots to reduce costs and public works is

1098
01:32:06,488 --> 01:32:10,448
going to be doing that. So that's that's only part and then we're going to hook up

1099
01:32:10,448 --> 01:32:13,588
the gas and electric from the utilities itself to that.

1100
01:32:18,458 --> 01:32:20,118
Okay, let's see

1101
01:32:21,738 --> 01:32:26,438
all the comments, call the roll. Commissioner Brock. Yes,

1102
01:32:26,438 --> 01:32:29,178
Mr. Meek? Yes. Mr. Aikult? Yes.

1103
01:32:29,558 --> 01:32:31,218
Vice Chair Block? Aye.

1104
01:32:31,478 --> 01:32:32,678
And Chair Haim? Yes.

1105
01:32:33,937 --> 01:33:03,477
Comments from commissioners. Chairman. Commissioner Mick. I would just like to thank the county manager for bringing up the issue with these holidays. The money is tight in the county. Everybody realizes that the manager identified an unexpected cost that was going to be handed down to all of us, which is affecting our decisions on this coming year. And she provided a way to minimize the cost of these and still allow everybody to still keep their two days off.

1106
01:33:03,477 --> 01:33:08,657
I think if anybody's going to complain, it would be the first responders who are getting

1107
01:33:08,657 --> 01:33:09,757
a double time and a half.

1108
01:33:11,917 --> 01:33:14,697
Thank you very much for offering up a good solution.

1109
01:33:16,337 --> 01:33:16,817
Thank you.

1110
01:33:17,257 --> 01:33:17,837
Other comments?

1111
01:33:21,827 --> 01:33:22,787
I have a couple.

1112
01:33:23,147 --> 01:33:23,627
Okay.

1113
01:33:23,887 --> 01:33:32,027
I know you have several, but really quickly on our little vector situation in our virus, I

1114
01:33:32,027 --> 01:33:43,647
I just wanted to remind everyone that the virus does present as a lesion and so if you

1115
01:33:43,647 --> 01:33:50,867
have animals, please pay attention if they're not eating because they're going to have

1116
01:33:50,867 --> 01:33:57,067
especially horses problems around their mouth and gums and it's going to be difficult for

1117
01:33:57,067 --> 01:33:59,427
them to eat and drink and they're going to lose weight.

1118
01:33:59,427 --> 01:34:07,447
And this is why, you know, if you notice anything unusual about their habits, then you might want to get call your vet.

1119
01:34:10,557 --> 01:34:10,977
Okay.

1120
01:34:12,357 --> 01:34:14,217
Mr. Chairman, two quick things.

1121
01:34:14,877 --> 01:34:15,217
Go ahead.

1122
01:34:15,597 --> 01:34:15,897
Thank you.

1123
01:34:16,177 --> 01:34:21,077
On a lighter note, I think my fellow commissioners will agree with me here.

1124
01:34:21,757 --> 01:34:24,397
I'd like to talk about the governor of Colorado.

1125
01:34:26,277 --> 01:34:30,577
I think he's got some serious issues to think that Colorado Chilli

1126
01:34:31,557 --> 01:34:36,657
is by far more superior than what we have here in New Mexico and I'm sure my

1127
01:34:36,657 --> 01:34:41,357
fellow commissioners agree that Colorado chili Mr. Chairman is really

1128
01:34:41,357 --> 01:34:46,177
junior varsity chili compared to what we have in New Mexico so I just want to

1129
01:34:46,177 --> 01:34:50,777
get that on the record. Lastly I'd also like to get on the record I'd like to

1130
01:34:50,777 --> 01:34:55,077
thank Corralis for all the hard work that they did once again this year to have an

1131
01:34:55,077 --> 01:35:00,557
amazing 4th of July parade it's probably the best one in the state and the

1132
01:35:00,557 --> 01:35:03,257
businesses down there benefit greatly from that parade.

1133
01:35:03,777 --> 01:35:06,277
It's crowded down there, the crowds are great,

1134
01:35:06,717 --> 01:35:10,477
the floats are amazing, and everyone was safe.

1135
01:35:11,017 --> 01:35:14,797
No issues once again, so I'd like to say hats off

1136
01:35:14,797 --> 01:35:17,157
to Corralis for a great job.

1137
01:35:18,137 --> 01:35:20,777
And there's nothing better than New Mexico chili,

1138
01:35:21,157 --> 01:35:21,537
Mr. Chairman.

1139
01:35:21,937 --> 01:35:22,377
Thank you.

1140
01:35:22,877 --> 01:35:24,277
Thank you, any other comments?

1141
01:35:24,557 --> 01:35:26,397
I've got to slide something in there, though.

1142
01:35:26,917 --> 01:35:29,497
We have a duel going, but I just

1143
01:35:29,497 --> 01:35:38,337
just read that hemp production, acreage of hemp is exceeding green chili production.

1144
01:35:39,217 --> 01:35:45,497
So get ready. How quick is that going to happen? We here in the northern part of the state

1145
01:35:45,497 --> 01:35:51,097
are going to have to start about how we're going to have a processing plant and not just

1146
01:35:51,097 --> 01:35:53,317
leave it all to Donna Anna Canning.

1147
01:35:55,777 --> 01:35:56,137
Okay.

1148
01:35:56,457 --> 01:35:57,137
I have a comment.

1149
01:35:57,497 --> 01:35:57,817
Yes, sir.

1150
01:35:58,817 --> 01:36:04,597
In reference to Commissioner Block's comment on the chili,

1151
01:36:05,457 --> 01:36:06,997
they mentioned Hatch Chili.

1152
01:36:08,517 --> 01:36:09,697
That's the only thing that they mentioned.

1153
01:36:10,337 --> 01:36:12,837
They didn't talk about some of the best chili in the world,

1154
01:36:12,837 --> 01:36:14,277
which is the Chimao chili.

1155
01:36:15,237 --> 01:36:18,397
In San Abal County, we have some of the best chili

1156
01:36:18,397 --> 01:36:20,557
in the universe.

1157
01:36:20,557 --> 01:36:27,577
members. Hemmist chilly. And those are never mentioned. We also have Limitad chilly, which

1158
01:36:27,577 --> 01:36:34,637
is down in Socorro, which is a whole different strain. And it's a lot better and will always

1159
01:36:34,637 --> 01:36:37,037
be better than anything that Colorado can grow.

1160
01:36:39,977 --> 01:36:42,177
Okay. Any other comments?

1161
01:36:43,337 --> 01:36:49,997
We will have a couple. First of all, the comments, the Community Treasurer's Office this evening

1162
01:36:49,997 --> 01:36:57,297
were uninformed. Both of the employees that they chose to take a dig at are

1163
01:36:57,297 --> 01:37:03,137
contract employees and their contracts happen to be up and we needed to deal

1164
01:37:03,137 --> 01:37:10,197
with the issue now. Also, some of the comments were sound like sour

1165
01:37:10,197 --> 01:37:16,857
grapes about not approving increase for elected officials and if you're running

1166
01:37:16,857 --> 01:37:21,277
for elected office for the meeting, you probably should be doing something else.

1167
01:37:23,377 --> 01:37:29,517
We are, in fact, working with, in fact, some of the closed sessions that we come up

1168
01:37:29,517 --> 01:37:36,957
here and talk about, I think, for the past four months or four meetings have been about

1169
01:37:37,677 --> 01:37:42,597
dealing with first responder issues.

1170
01:37:43,617 --> 01:37:46,437
And lastly, I would like to make a comment.

1171
01:37:46,697 --> 01:37:48,637
I know there's been some questions about raises.

1172
01:37:49,297 --> 01:37:53,797
And we've talked about how what a difficult financial situation that we have.

1173
01:37:54,517 --> 01:38:00,157
But I want to say that, first of all, some of the action that we took in the fourth quarter

1174
01:38:00,157 --> 01:38:06,777
has postured us better in looking forward as to how we might be able to deal with something

1175
01:38:06,777 --> 01:38:08,197
with regard to raises.

1176
01:38:11,617 --> 01:38:16,337
Also we're in the process of doing a salary survey and expect a

1177
01:38:16,337 --> 01:38:23,997
couple of months down the road that we could be in a position to deal with salary increases

1178
01:38:23,997 --> 01:38:31,117
but we'll have to see how we get through that to do it. But one thing for sure is the

1179
01:38:31,117 --> 01:38:35,377
only way we're going to get to be able to do increases is that we continue to manage

1180
01:38:35,377 --> 01:38:41,497
expenses and doing something like proposed by the community management this evening and going to

1181
01:38:41,497 --> 01:38:48,417
two floating days instead of shutting the place down and having to pay 80 to $100,000 in additional expenses.

1182
01:38:49,217 --> 01:38:54,377
I think that's a smart move and those are the kind of smart moves that we need to continue to do so that we can

1183
01:38:54,377 --> 01:38:57,957
even consider how we would do something with raises going forward.

1184
01:38:58,557 --> 01:39:00,677
So thank you on that. Any other comments?

1185
01:39:00,677 --> 01:39:07,997
We have a motion for number 16, so move to the second,

1186
01:39:11,087 --> 01:39:12,007
stand adjourned.