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Yeah, good. Anything, everybody. This is the sandwich select board

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meeting for August 20th, 2020.

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Six. We are at the Sandhill school tonight's meeting is

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being recorded and broadcast live by Sandit community television.

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We will open with the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge alleg pledge alleg flag, the United States of America.

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And Republic for which stands.

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One nation under God.

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Indivisible who had Liberty and.

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Justice for

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we will open with our first opportunity for public comment

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this evening, the first person is Sue dangle.

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You can actually there. Thank you.

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Hi, good evening.

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Susan dangle 7 62 Pitt road in Mashpee.

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Mashpee. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you

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tonight. I've been for you.

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Several times over the last few years, but tonight I

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have two things I wanted to mention. The first is

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a, a big thank you to the town of sandwich.

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For speedily acting.

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To help with the jet ski problem on mash wave

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pond.

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I'm not sure that you're aware, but mash B Wakebe

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and John's pond are the only two ponds on the

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entire Cape.

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That allowed non-resident jet ski launches.

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And for that reason, we get a lot of them.

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And you all stepped right up and came over and

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over at Ryder conservation area.

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Installed very quickly at buoy system.

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With clearly clear signs that say you can't.

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Can't tie up watercraft, et cetera.

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That worked great for a few weeks.

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And then now they're all tying up to the buoys

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they're tying. They're still tying up.

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And what happens is they bring.

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The jet skis over and then they truck, a whole

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bunch of people.

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Into writer conservation with a series of cars that drop

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people off. And then those jet skis just keep going

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all.

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Day long. So

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I believe in talking to Mr. Sampson, there might be

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an Ima opportunity between the town of sandwich and mashee.

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Mashpee to allow for the Harbor master.

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Of mash B to actually have jurisdiction over the waters.

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Waters that are right out in front of Ryder, where

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those buoys are so that they can have the people.

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Leave.

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But it's tricky because it's sandwich water, and you don't

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have a Harbor master on the, on the water. So

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I would just like to encourage you.

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To deliberate about that as soon as you can. And

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if we could get that in place in time for

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next year, that would be great. The season's almost over.

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But thank you again for.

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Stepping up, it really has made a difference.

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And then secondly,

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I was dismayed to see the clerk cutting at the

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village green.

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Site. I talked to you, I think maybe three times.

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About it during the process, as well as speaking to

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the zoning board.

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The match be select board was here twice.

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And has sent two letters.

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Letters with our concerns about the stormwater runoff.

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And the knife gin loading.

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And those are

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issues that are in the comprehensive plan.

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As conditions, but as we've seen a condition or two.

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Was just blatantly disregarded. So there is some very grave

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concern that the rest of them will just be disregarded.

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So we're looking very carefully at how this will be

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handled in the town.

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And I hope that it is made clear that this

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cannot continue.

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How, when whatever means necessary. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, Brian Wallace, old con road.

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58 reside of sandwich.

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I have a question before I begin.

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Does anybody play pickleball on the board of selectmen?

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Any pickleball players.

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Actively or ever either way.

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Ever. Yes. Yes. Ever. Yes.

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What are, yes. Okay. Basically it might go and I'll

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just go a quick briefing is to try and eliminate.

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The reservation system in pickleball.

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I think it's been harmful for the town of sandwich.

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I, I hear I've been playing for 17 years. I

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started a guy at the old.

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Conservation. We even lined the parking lot and we went

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to wing school. We did two courts, and then we

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did Oakcrest Cove and Oakcrest Cove. We had as many.

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As 40 people and as Oak open play,

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and never had a problem. And that played in Canada.

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Florida California. I played all over the country.

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I've never run into the reservation system.

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The reservation system, I think does more harm. Good.

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They're good. And

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in Florida, Naples has

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last I heard they had about 64 courts.

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Open play. They've got 1 25.

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One low end 1.5 all the way up to five.

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And the, the biggest problem. Well, problem, I say, and

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the reservation system.

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They have the courts available seven days a week.

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Open play. You only have four days a week.

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And somebody says, well, why don't you play reservation?

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I personally don't like reservation. It does nothing to me

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to grow the sport.

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I like to play with a lot of other people.

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And plus I'm a single player. So.

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Five and three people to play pickleball at the last

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minute.

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Is a chore now.

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As far as the reservation system, if they like to

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play together.

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I'm open play. You have a board.

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Square and the people wanna play together. And we have

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a lot of people at open plate. You just put

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your name on the board.

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The longest I've ever waited in open play.

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With 40 people. It's about six minutes.

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To turnover is quick. Cuz you can see as you

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get.

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You've got eight, eight court. I I've got 24 or

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30 people or whatever.

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So that was my goal is to.

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Eliminate the reservation system. I've known guy for 17 years.

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I picked up the game in Florida.

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And I think he's has a meeting in the first

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week in September.

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And hopefully we can come up with a better solution.

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Some suggestions, which, which

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just my ideas is one. You could do it.

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Two shifts every every day, seven to nine to nine

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11, whatever.

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And the other, you could drop.

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These are all my worst suggestions.

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The other, you could

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the other, you could drop.

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Reservations on Friday.

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So we'd pick up, we'd pick up five days.

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And reservations will lose one day.

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So other than that,

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Donald a reservation system.

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Any, any questions in general?

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Thank you for your time. Thank you.

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Folks, if you need seats, there's a, there's a couple

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seats over here.

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I think that seat over here somewhere, and we got

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some more chairs coming in.

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Please state your name and address. Thank you. Sue Cari,

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six Sheldon lane in Forestdale.

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I am vice president of friends of Peters pond.

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And I'm heartsick over what the developers of village green.

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In Forestdale have done to the land with no permission,

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no permit.

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And apparently no accountability for their actions.

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They were not issued a building permit yet they have

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ruined this land.

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Forever. They were given over 100.

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Conditions to satisfy before they would even be granted a

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building permit.

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I hope the town now.

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Realizes that they will not only not satisfy those conditions,

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but they will do whatever they want.

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Whenever they want to, they ignored a verbal cease and

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desist and a written cease and desist.

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Before they were finally stopped.

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They do not care about our groundwater, our pond water.

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Or 40 B housing.

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This project never really belonged in such a heavily.

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Populated area and yes, I attended the meetings.

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Meetings spoke up in times of public comment.

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And wrote letters. I just really hope the town will.

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Investigate this egregious behavior.

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And that these developers will be held accountable for their

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actions.

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I have loved fare and Peter's pond since 1959.

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And I am saddened beyond belief by what.

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These people have done and are doing.

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To our beautiful neighborhood.

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Thanks again. Thank you so much.

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Sir. Hello, back to the serious subject of pickleball.

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Andy Davis two artisan way. What was it, Brian?

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I'm gonna echo some of Brian's statements.

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About the reservation system.

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I don't think it really works. We're the only town

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on Cape Cod that has a reservation system.

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I play over in Mashpee. I play over in Marston's

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mills, all open play, like all the time works out.

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Great.

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Having to try and use a reservation system. Like Brian

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said, like trying to get people at the last minute

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to play.

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I had friends like, Hey, let's play in sandwich on

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Friday. I'm like, I can't, why make a reservation? I

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can't, because it's a month out. Like it doesn't work.

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And part of the problem. And I don't know if

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anybody ever checks and I don't think the recreation department

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ever does.

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Is you, look, you go to the courts and see

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who's playing. If there are people there.

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And then you look at the reservation system. The app

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on your phone courts are supposed to be full with

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people playing pickleball.

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And nobody will be there. And that's a huge problem.

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And we met with the rec director a couple years

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ago, had this conversation.

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She loves the reservation system. Didn't think there was a

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problem.

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But when the courts, like aren't getting used.

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Half the time. It's a problem.

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And one of the things she said in an email

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to one of our pickle ballers, she said the recreation

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department is here to support you however we can and

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would love to.

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Help rebuild and energize the court community together.

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Why do we have to rebuild it?

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Because of the reservation system, people.

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Don't go. They are actively discouraging people.

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From playing pickleball in sandwich. And if you talk to

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people from sandwich and play pickleball or the surrounding communities,

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you'll hear the same.

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Thing the, the court should just be open.

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All the time, take the lockout.

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Let people play pickleball. Let people play tennis.

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That's all I have for now. Thank you. Thank you

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so much.

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Valerie. Kote 55 fab.

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Freeman AB this was just a perfect opportunity to come

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up and say,

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I am a court reserve pickleball player. .

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That's okay.

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No shame.

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And you know what I was.

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I'm not worried about, but I'm gonna use the sandwich

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approach, no pun intended, but kind of, I think sandwich.

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Pickleball and the sandwich rec department has a lot of

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positives going on and I'm afraid when we hear like,

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get rid of the reservation system, change everything open play

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all the time that it, it reflects.

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Reflects either a misuse disuse.

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Inappropriate use of court reserve, where as a player who's

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used.

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The reservation system for quite a long time.

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I find just the opposite.

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I think I know Andy's been down there a few

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times and has taken pictures of empty courts there.

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At 11 on a day, that's 85 degrees in humid

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and that's because the six quarts were full.

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From nine to 11 people play early. They play at

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seven. They reserve at seven o'clock.

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I think that

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everything, you know, we all want the, we all have

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the same goal. We wanna play pickleball. We want it.

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Available accessible. I think we have an amazing.

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Recreation department.

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The whole Quaker meeting house road corridor is just such

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a Testament to.

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How many programs and opportunities there are for children to

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seniors.

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Seniors and sandwich has a lot to be proud of

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there.

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I think that

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as far as when you talk to Tricia, Heather,

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and Trish, you know, she got public servant of the

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year award from chamber of commerce. I think those.

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They are

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I, I don't know. Other people may have had different

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experiences, but when we've talked or asked to talk to

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Trish or Heather.

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They listen, they're receptive.

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They try to resolve things. If they can, sometimes finances

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constrain that.

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But when we said

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the court reserved, the original one was not friendly.

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User friendly. It wasn't working well. They investigated, they researched.

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So despite maybe nobody on the Cape using court reserve,

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it's a widely used program.

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Across the country, including Florida.

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I think Brian, you were mentioning Florida. It's used widely

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there. That's where they modeled it from and where they,

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they researched it from.

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I think

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that, when they found a better system, they implemented it

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and it works. It's very.

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User friendly and it's widely used.

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Secondly, they

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they closed the courts in the winter. People said,

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why can't, you know, other places Mashpee courts are open,

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et cetera. Why can't we? They said, okay, let's try

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it.

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If it gets, if there's really bad weather, it'll ruin

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the nets. We'll have to stop it, but they listened.

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They were agreeable. They put up windscreens we have indoor

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pickleball.

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That sandwich rec runs.

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That uses a paddle system. It's open play.

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What they do differently there is that they have you.

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Enroll in classes based on.

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Your ability advanced.

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Advanced intermediate beginner. And they have days that differentiate.

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Differentiated. I think that open plate, I am still, we've

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had so many meetings about it for years. I'm sure

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Andy. I know you've been a part Hillary. Cliber a

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great.

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Pickleball player in town. She tried to resurrect it, tried

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to get it going. People have had ideas. They come

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up with plans.

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Plans. I still don't know why open play.

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That people aren't there. I think.

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By changing or saying, we have to change everything about

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sandwich pickleball.

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Take away. The very thing that is most successful in

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pickleball right now, which is.

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The people who use the re reservation system, those ports

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are used.

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Utilized in there are players and on open play, there

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aren't any.

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And I don't, I think in my own opinion,

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is that early on players.

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Everybody forms a pickleball community.

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There's one in Mashpee and Marsons mills and sandwich. You,

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you end up meeting people, finding people.

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That you feel comfortable playing with? Are you just like

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them as people?

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Our pickleball group is, is we are friends. We are

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social. We compete, we have fun.

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The other groups that I know play in that reserve

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system when we're there.

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It's a big welcoming

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despite, I think

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somebody called us elitist in the court reserve system. I

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know you're laughing. I am too.

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If you saw me playing you wouldn't, be player

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that's for sure. Lori, could you testify to that? But.

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The lead it's like using the wrong word. I'd say

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the people who use court reserve are committed.

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It works well in their lifestyle to know they can

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play Monday, Wednesday, Friday, that if they're they also play

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golf or they have a wanna make doctor's appointments, it

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gives a predict.

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Predictability a reliability to their pickleball life and world.

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Maybe everybody doesn't need that. The people who use it.

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Enjoy it and appreciate it.

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And so I I'm here to strongly.

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Strongly speak against like, don't throw the baby out with

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the bathwater.

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Like you can try to make Opal open plate better

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and work better.

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Great ideas mash. Be level the courts. Marstons mills have

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a board, but you need somebody to run it.

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We have a board down in sea. I want you

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to know one uses it. In fact, somebody used a

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regular marker instead of a dry erase marker and ruined

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it.

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Brewington you need somebody maybe to man, that board, there

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are ways to make open, play more successful. I'm sure

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you know them. I'm sure all the people.

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Here, maybe someone's gonna speak to that too.

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Oh, I'm sorry. As you can see, I don't have

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trouble speaking in opposition.

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Thank you so much for listening to me. Don't same

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problem. It's okay. so, so it's about six, 18.

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So we're gonna be proceeding with our agenda. We generally

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allow 15 minutes for public comment at the beginning of

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the meeting.

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There is another opportunity for public comment at the end

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of the meeting. And we are likely to, to provide

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unlimited time there, but we need to move forward with

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the business of the evening at this.

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Time. So

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with that.

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We are going to move to the.

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Review and approval of minutes.

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Of August 6th, I'd ask that you please be quiet.

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Thank you make a motion will be approved the minutes

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of August 6th as presented.

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State second.

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So a motion for Mr. Hawk a second for Mr.

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Sullivan, any discussion on the motion to approve the minutes

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of August 6th.

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No discussion all those in favor.

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Aye. Aye. Extensions.

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Yes, Mr. Fulton.

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That brings the town manager report.

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Some quick updates. Our next meeting.

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Is Thursday, September 10th. That's because.

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Of the holiday that's coming up. So it's a little

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bit, one week later, her family would be.

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A quick update on the town hall construction.

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Project continues to go really well.

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If you drive by all of the large windows on

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the first and second floors have all been replaced as

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of today.

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There's a small window in the front and a really

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small window in the back that I'll be touched on

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next week.

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And then they're gonna continue with the exterior painting and

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restoration. A lot of the clapboards that you see off

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the one side near one 30.

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Is that's from rotted materials. So it's all progressing well.

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We'll give you updates as it gets closer to being

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completed, but our hope is it should be done.

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As expected near the end of September, early October, but

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we'll keep you abreast of that. As we move forward,

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we continue to meet weekly as a group.

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A couple of beach updates with all of our, well,

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the vast majority of our summer staff returning to college.

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Parking attendance and lifeguards will be at all of our

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usual places through tomorrow.

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And then so many are leaving. We won't be staffing

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either the parking attendants or the lifeguards tomorrow.

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Public restrooms. The portable restrooms that we've had in most

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of our facilities will remain.

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Until September 8th, the town neck trailer, which is nicer than

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most of the portable restrooms that's gonna be removed at

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the end of the day tomorrow.

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And it's gonna be replaced with some ADA affordable restrooms.

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That again will be in place through.

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September 8th. So they'll still be facilities there.

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A couple of other quick rec updates, similar to what's

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been talked about so far. So the recreation department is

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planning.

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A pickleball open forum for Wednesday, September 16th at five at

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the center for active living.

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I think they're just waiting to nail down confirmation on

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the room, but that's what the intent is.

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I would just like to add a personal commentary that

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I hope people recognize the lengths that town officials and

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town staff parti.

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Particularly the rec department and rec committee went to.

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Literally trying to get public support for millions of dollars

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to build six beautiful pickleball courts to have probably the

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only town on Cape Cod that has three.

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Indoor pickleball courts for the winter. And when we go

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to resurface the outdoor basketball and tennis courts at Oak

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CREs Cove down by the public.

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Boat ramp. We plan to have that Stripe for pickleball

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as well. So the town is literally gone out of

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its way to spend millions of dollars.

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Many times against some committees that did not support it

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to try to get those facilities in place that.

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Five. So it's tentatively scheduled for Wednesday, September 16th, at five

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o'clock at the center for active limit. This is the

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recreation advisory.

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Committee meeting. Yes. Okay. And I shouldn't, you know,

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I'm trying to think of the best way to say

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it.

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The pickleball is overseen by the rec department. It's not

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overseen by the select board.

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And I would also add that the, and they do

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an, the recreation advisory committee has seven open seats and

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they do an outstanding.

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So anybody that has interest in serving on the recreation

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advisory committee is very welcome to do so.

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But to Mr. Dunham's point, and I was actually going

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to bring this up before I knew it was on

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your list.

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That is truly the best place to bring pickleball concerns.

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That doesn't mean that we won't pursue them, but that

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is the best place to bring those concerns.

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Concerns a couple of other quick ones. We did get

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notified by Eversource. Last week, they've been doing this throughout

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the state.

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But they're in our area now trying to convert people's

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old electric meters to smart meters. It's gonna happen at

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every property in sandwich.

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So those have started in, in, in sandwich and they'll

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be continuing for quite a while.

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If the public's interested, Eversource has all sorts of information

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on the smart meters.

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That you can take advantage of the additional capabilities of

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those meters.

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From your phones, do things remotely. If you go away

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for the winter, so, or go away for a few

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weeks.

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So people should be keeping an eye out for that.

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When they come to your area, the town's had a

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slow down and our town campaign in a public outreach.

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Session for many months now, and that's continuing.

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We are working through our office D P w.

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And the public safety departments.

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About some small signage that if people were interested, they

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could put on their properties to try to just encourage

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people to slow down. I think it's something we see.

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Everywhere, no matter where you go, not just sandwich.

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And then lastly, I just wanted to give you an

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update. I put in front of your tables in front

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of your chairs at last night's military, civilian community.

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Council meeting. There was an excellent presentation made by the

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director of the Providence VA.

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Who was instrumental for the last 15 years in trying

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to permit the.

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Veterans outpatient clinic that's being built right now.

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On the main entrance to joint base Cape Cod off

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the MacArthur Boulevard access.

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You can access that before you get to the security

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gates.

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But the progress is progressing very well. The services that

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they will provide out there are, will be substantial.

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But it will probably help Cape veterans not have to

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go to Boston, Providence or Brockton, like they've done for

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decades.

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That's supposed to be complete by the end of calendar

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year 2027.

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I know you have the information in front of you,

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but if you take a look at the services that

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are gonna be provided there,

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it's gonna be state of the art for what veterans

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are provided Sowan to highlight that.

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Excellent.

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Excellent. That's it. Thank you, bud questions for buddy.

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Provided none. None.

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Correspondence statements and announcements from the board.

521
00:24:41,670 --> 00:24:42,000
Anyone

522
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,470
my only, almost the rec item. So we covered that.

523
00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:50,800
Okay, we're going to move forward then.

524
00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:52,930
With our staff meeting.

525
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,970
The item first item for this evening is JIRA America's

526
00:24:57,970 --> 00:24:59,300
update on canal station.

527
00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:04,200
Development plans, Randy Bell is here vice president of government and

528
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,030
regulatory affairs.

529
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,970
And other folks as well.

530
00:25:09,170 --> 00:25:11,230
Lot. And, and why at Metzger? Yeah.

531
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:14,970
Senior manager of science and advanced technology. And bud, I

532
00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:17,030
don't know if you want to give any additional background,

533
00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:17,600
just.

534
00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:22,000
Yeah. I just say just for the general public's information,

535
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,100
like.

536
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Whomever has owned the power plant for the last 40

537
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,500
years. And I think there's been eight or nine.

538
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:29,770
They're our largest taxpayer.

539
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,100
Once com electric sold it. And we have always tried

540
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,270
to go out of our way to be proactive and.

541
00:25:37,030 --> 00:25:39,030
Helpful as much as we can with the various owners.

542
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,270
And I think it's fair to say sometimes when the

543
00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:45,430
property changed hands, we, you know, weren't sure what the

544
00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:47,300
new owners would be like. And I have to say

545
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:47,930
every single.

546
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:51,270
Time. It's been very positive, getting to know them and

547
00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:51,800
work with them.

548
00:25:52,830 --> 00:25:55,430
But since JIRA has owned it Jer Americas. And I,

549
00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:58,830
I know they'll do some introductions. I feel like that

550
00:25:58,830 --> 00:26:00,670
relationship has gone to a whole nother.

551
00:26:01,030 --> 00:26:02,470
Level, you know,

552
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:06,000
we have an open communication style and the type of

553
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,370
relationship where we can say thanks to each other good

554
00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:10,370
or bad, which is the sign of a good relationship.

555
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:13,800
And we have gone out of our way to try

556
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,500
to help them, because I think anyone who has lived

557
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,270
in town for a while, know how antiquated and.

558
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,300
Outdated, some of the facilities are there not all of

559
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,070
them. And I just want to stress how.

560
00:26:25,030 --> 00:26:27,970
Supportive the select board town staff, and really all of

561
00:26:27,970 --> 00:26:29,470
our committees and townspeople.

562
00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:33,000
Were supportive when we did the Quickstart unit three.

563
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,930
Believe it or not, that was almost a, a decade

564
00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:36,230
ago.

565
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:39,270
But you know what a difference that has made.

566
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:43,030
So I just would hope people would be open-minded and

567
00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:44,100
supportive thinking ahead.

568
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,030
Because it's critical that that property gets used the right

569
00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:52,930
way for all of our, you know, reliable and sustainable

570
00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:53,470
energy needs.

571
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,270
And personally, like they've just been incredible to work with

572
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:58,970
and we're looking forward to.

573
00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:02,970
This and other potential development opportunities that happen down theroad.

574
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:05,430
Thank you, bud.

575
00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:10,100
Brandon. Thank you so much, bud. Thank you for that.

576
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:12,430
That shout out. We have to agree. This is a

577
00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:13,600
fantastic relationship.

578
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,000
Working here with the town of sandwich. I'm Brandi bell.

579
00:27:17,370 --> 00:27:20,100
I'm the vice president of government and regulatory affairs for

580
00:27:20,170 --> 00:27:22,030
Jer Americas. So I cover.

581
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,670
All of our government affairs.

582
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,670
For our, our whole footprint in the United States.

583
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:31,070
And I'm the main point of contact.

584
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:33,800
For the project we're about to present right now.

585
00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:37,470
However good news for everybody we're you won't have to

586
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:38,430
deal with me for that long.

587
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,100
Because we are hiring a new person to cover all

588
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:43,670
of our government affairs for the Northeast.

589
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:46,030
This will be the bulk of her job and she

590
00:27:46,030 --> 00:27:46,930
starts mid-September.

591
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,500
So we will be rule introducing her to the community

592
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:53,500
as well. Once she gets started, this is very, very

593
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,770
important to us. And so we're gonna have somebody who.

594
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:58,430
Who's really can be much more dedicated to the, the

595
00:27:58,430 --> 00:28:00,570
engagement here in San Luis. Being part of the team

596
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:02,670
should be a, do a whole lot better job than

597
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:03,930
I would be. Why.

598
00:28:04,270 --> 00:28:06,470
Why don't you introduce yourself and then we'll, we'll go

599
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:09,930
through the presentation. So why I'm Metzger? I'm senior director

600
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:12,030
in science and advanced technologies.

601
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:15,270
Since I work on the technology side of our development

602
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:18,570
projects, as well as looking at different technologies, moving.

603
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:20,500
So

604
00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:24,230
as the, the slide suggests we're here to talk about

605
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:28,970
a, a battery possible battery energy storage system. So a

606
00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:30,030
grid scale battery at.

607
00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:33,500
At canal, this is the beginning of what we hope

608
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,570
to be a very open and transparent process.

609
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:39,500
This is not to say we are a hundred percent

610
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:41,030
moving forward with this project.

611
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
We really hope we are, that there are some things

612
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:47,030
that are still contingent, but as part of the process,

613
00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:48,430
we want to introduce that right now.

614
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,830
So let first, lemme tell you who JIRA is. It's

615
00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:55,500
it? I, when I started working at JIRA, I realized

616
00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:57,470
the most interesting company we'd never.

617
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,930
Heard of, so first of all, it is the largest

618
00:28:59,970 --> 00:29:04,030
power producer in Japan produces about 30% of the power

619
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:04,500
in Japan.

620
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:07,930
And primarily in the Tokyo region.

621
00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:11,970
So very, very important for the global economy, but it

622
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,830
also has significant power assets globally. So we work in

623
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:16,670
about 20 countries.

624
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:19,370
And the us is the largest footprint.

625
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:23,600
For JIRA outside of Japan. I think what's, what's really

626
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,230
important about how canal.

627
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,470
Fits into JIRA's vision.

628
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,370
Globally is that that JIRA was created.

629
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:35,370
As a, a fossil fuel.

630
00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:39,430
Power generation company a after Fukushima.

631
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,270
The the two largest utility largest and the third largest

632
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,030
utilities.

633
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:48,470
In, in Japan, Tokyo electric and Chubu electric, they created

634
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,770
a joint venture where they took the, the fossil fuel

635
00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:52,700
generation assets.

636
00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:55,430
And the global fuels trading business and put them into

637
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:56,470
this company JIRA.

638
00:29:57,230 --> 00:30:00,270
And then said you have to decarbonize and mean her

639
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:01,770
net zero goals by 2050.

640
00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:05,500
So we have all the, all of the thermal assets

641
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:07,500
that the fossil fuel assets. And we have to think

642
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,470
about how we continue to provide power for Japan.

643
00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:13,300
And for the rest of the world while meeting this,

644
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:17,370
this goal, so really challenging, but we also see it

645
00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:18,970
as a real opportunity. And so.

646
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,470
Our assets in the United States often really support that global

647
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:23,930
mission.

648
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:26,030
So why don't we go to the next slide? We'll

649
00:30:26,030 --> 00:30:27,070
talk about what we do in the us.

650
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:30,700
You'll see in the Northeast from.

651
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,600
Just south of Philadelphia, up to Maine, we have a

652
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,100
fleet set of seven.

653
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:40,370
Fossil fuel thermal power generation assets.

654
00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:44,100
They are primarily gas or dual fuel.

655
00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:48,030
Canal unit one is the.

656
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:50,670
Only oil, only asset we own.

657
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:53,970
We own renewables. We have.

658
00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:58,700
A renewal solar facility in Louisiana and a solar facility

659
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,930
in Arkansas, and then a, a wind facility in the

660
00:31:01,930 --> 00:31:02,500
south of Texas.

661
00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:04,430
We have

662
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,930
a really interesting ammonia project.

663
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Where we'll be using ammonia.

664
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:14,030
For energy in Louisiana, and that's going to the most

665
00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:16,800
technologically advanced ammonia facility in the world.

666
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,970
Under construction right now. And.

667
00:31:20,830 --> 00:31:23,470
That will come online in 2029 and it'll use carbon

668
00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:26,800
capture so that the CO2 is captured. And then that

669
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,930
ammonia will be sent to Japan.

670
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,930
Where it will displace coal.

671
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,430
And so it'll be used in a Coalfire power plant

672
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:37,570
with so zero emissions. So really, really interesting project there.

673
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:41,370
We own an upstream gas asset, and then we have

674
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:44,230
a significant amount of, of us L N G offtake.

675
00:31:45,030 --> 00:31:48,030
So a very broad portfolio here in the us.

676
00:31:49,030 --> 00:31:50,970
But on the power side, in the Northeast.

677
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:54,000
We look at these assets as, as opportunities.

678
00:31:54,770 --> 00:31:57,800
Where we know that there, these assets are going to

679
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,230
be needed for the short to medium term.

680
00:32:01,030 --> 00:32:03,930
They are an important for reliability and we'll get to

681
00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:07,030
why canal is important, but they also provide an opportunity

682
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:08,500
for decarbonization.

683
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,070
Lowering emissions by reusing existing infrastructure.

684
00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:15,430
So when we see assets like now where they have

685
00:32:15,970 --> 00:32:20,070
significant infrastructure, that's frankly underutilized. Right now we, we think

686
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:21,000
about opportunities.

687
00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:25,270
Where we could bring in new technologies that lower the

688
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:25,770
emissions.

689
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:29,200
Emissions while continuing to provide reliability, cuz essentially that's what

690
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,100
our mission is globally.

691
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,970
We have to continue to provide reliable power.

692
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,770
At an affordable price while lowering emissions. So a, a

693
00:32:37,770 --> 00:32:41,500
big task, but we're working on this globally and canal

694
00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:41,800
is.

695
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,270
One of our first opportunities here in the United States. So

696
00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:46,000
we'll go to the next slide.

697
00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:49,370
So, this is just an overview of, of what canal

698
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:50,300
generating is today.

699
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:54,070
So I think as you all know, it is an

700
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:57,030
antique, at least two of the units, the canal unit

701
00:32:57,070 --> 00:32:59,370
one was built in 1968.

702
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,030
The canal unit two was built in 1976.

703
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,670
They, those units are each about 550 megawatts and then

704
00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:09,270
canal unit three, which is the newest 2019.

705
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,030
Is about 330 megawatts. And so they they're gonna.

706
00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:19,230
Know fair you you'll they're very rarely run particularly canals

707
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:22,700
one and two. So canal one and two, because there

708
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,200
are oil units. They take 12.

709
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:27,600
Hours to turn on. And so they really only run.

710
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:31,430
When the system is in crisis, those are long heat

711
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:33,770
events or long cold events. So.

712
00:33:34,570 --> 00:33:37,370
We ran a lot during winter storm farm, but.

713
00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:41,970
They so they they're, they're very, very, very rarely run

714
00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:45,300
less than 2% canal, three runs a little more around

715
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:47,030
7% because.

716
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,600
That's fast start. It can run on natural gas.

717
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:52,430
When there is gas available in the summer, in the

718
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:55,970
winter, you'll you often can't, can't get gas for power,

719
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,370
power plants down here. So you run that unit.

720
00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:01,000
Runs on ultra loci for diesel when, when needed.

721
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,970
We have about 50 employees.

722
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:06,270
Employees it repre about half are represented by the union.

723
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,200
And that's, there's, there's a union contract.

724
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,470
And we have a, a.

725
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:16,670
Just recently renewed our, our pilot, our property PI payment

726
00:34:16,670 --> 00:34:18,970
in lieu of taxes agreement, which is how it's done

727
00:34:18,970 --> 00:34:20,100
here in the power plants in Massa.

728
00:34:20,630 --> 00:34:24,000
Massachusetts. We play over 3 million in tax to the, to

729
00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:26,000
sandwich every year. And then.

730
00:34:26,770 --> 00:34:28,070
In terms of community contributions.

731
00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:32,970
JIRA purchased the plant in 22, we've made a little

732
00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:37,030
over $215,000 in community contributions since, since.

733
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:39,970
2022. So really re we think it's really important to

734
00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:40,930
be part of the community.

735
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,930
Just, just for context, we also owned two additional plan

736
00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:49,370
in Massachusetts Milford indictment. Those are smaller about, about 200

737
00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:49,670
mega.

738
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,030
Megawatts each next slide.

739
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:54,970
So, you know, I just mentioned talk about the community

740
00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:56,270
and our community.

741
00:34:57,030 --> 00:35:02,670
Investments. So 218,000 plus I think it's 218,500, 500 and

742
00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:04,670
some dollars we spend.

743
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,070
Significant significant engagement with local high school, bringing high school

744
00:35:09,070 --> 00:35:11,100
students in for tours and education.

745
00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:14,470
About the facility and looking at opportunities.

746
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,570
For careers in the power generation space.

747
00:35:18,570 --> 00:35:20,970
We have a partnership with mass maritime academy, an internship

748
00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:21,430
program.

749
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:25,300
With workforce development opportunities and, and roughly a third of

750
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:29,300
our employees actually are mass maritime grads. And then we

751
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,430
have employee led initiative.

752
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:34,270
Initiatives like beach community cleanup, which that's a photo from.

753
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,000
We do that every year around earth day.

754
00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,930
And sponsorship of the

755
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,230
of U w a local events, et cetera. So,

756
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,970
that's a, you know, really important for us to be

757
00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:48,000
play an important, a big role in the community.

758
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:50,770
And with the potential battery.

759
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,570
Development. We see an opportunity to play an even bigger

760
00:35:53,570 --> 00:35:53,930
role.

761
00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:58,430
So we're having conversations already about the, a new pilot

762
00:35:58,670 --> 00:35:59,230
for the battery.

763
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:01,500
And for community benefits plan.

764
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:04,370
So we're, we're having those conversations and we know that

765
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:07,070
that's something that we're, we're very much interviewed. Yeah.

766
00:36:08,070 --> 00:36:10,500
Consulting with the town on and consulting with residents on.

767
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:12,030
So that's in progress.

768
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:15,930
Go to the next slide. So the context for this

769
00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:16,570
development.

770
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:20,270
It proposed development. Is it, what is it? A, a

771
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:23,430
statewide call for energy storage. So the state has.

772
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:28,970
Created a program called 83 E through the 2024 climate

773
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:29,300
bill.

774
00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:33,000
That calls for several rounds of.

775
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,800
Energy storage procurement. Last year, they had the first round.

776
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,030
They called for 1500 megawatts of what they're calling mid

777
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:41,700
duration storage.

778
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,930
So batteries that can discharge from four, for four to

779
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:45,200
10 hours.

780
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:50,570
And they procured roughly 1200 megawatts this year. This store,

781
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,100
this, this RFP, this year is about a.

782
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:55,930
Thousand megawatts of

783
00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:59,600
storage they're they're procuring for again, mid duration, four to

784
00:36:59,600 --> 00:36:59,970
10 hours.

785
00:37:01,070 --> 00:37:04,000
That's a competitive procurement process and the bids are due

786
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:08,070
on September 10th. So we are, we are in the, in

787
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:08,770
the middle of.

788
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:10,370
Preparing our bid right now.

789
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,700
What makes canal and our bid particularly compelling. And we

790
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,070
think very well positioned.

791
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:21,030
Is that we are able to reuse the existing grid

792
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:23,000
interconnection at the canal site.

793
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:25,030
So there is

794
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,700
a a interconnection service.

795
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:30,970
Called surplus interconnection service. Now this is gonna get a

796
00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:33,970
little bit technical, but it's really important for why canal

797
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,030
is a great, a great asset.

798
00:37:36,830 --> 00:37:39,930
For putting a battery there. This is, this is relatively

799
00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:43,600
new created by the, the, by FERC and nice, so

800
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,770
new England. So in the, the.

801
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:47,100
Regional grid by since 2022.

802
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,670
And what it allows you to do is share I

803
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:53,470
interconnection of an existing resource. So the interconnection.

804
00:37:54,370 --> 00:37:56,570
Is how the power plant connects to the grid and

805
00:37:56,570 --> 00:37:59,930
provides power to, to the transmission system. And ultimately the

806
00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:00,270
customers.

807
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,770
Customers, and it's very, very expensive.

808
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:08,000
And time consuming to build a new interconnection, but if

809
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,230
you're allowed to reuse the interconnection.

810
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:13,370
Then you save a lot of money and you save

811
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:16,070
a lot of time. So that, that savings is passed

812
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,230
on down through, you know, very convoluted.

813
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,570
Convoluted process, but ultimately cheaper projects mean cheaper bills.

814
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:27,370
Surplus interconnection service wasn't allowed in last year's.

815
00:38:28,270 --> 00:38:30,270
Year's procurement last year's RFP for batteries.

816
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,970
But it is this year. We've, it's been a large

817
00:38:33,970 --> 00:38:37,470
part of my job. I'm trying to get the state

818
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:39,030
of Massachusetts to allow it. Lots of.

819
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:42,570
Advocacy and we were successful. So we are now able

820
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:45,030
to use the interconnection that's already there at canal.

821
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,800
That is barely ever used.

822
00:38:48,830 --> 00:38:51,030
Because as we said, canal one and two run less

823
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:53,270
than 2% of the time we are allowed to use

824
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:54,930
that infrastructure. That's just sitting there.

825
00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:57,230
And save a tremendous amount of money.

826
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,970
And speed the process up. And so that's why this,

827
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:04,370
this bid we believe will be very, very well positioned.

828
00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:06,000
It also just.

829
00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:09,970
Means significantly less construction, less impact you don't need new

830
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
land. So it's, it's a really very positive thing all

831
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,270
around and.

832
00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:16,570
The the, the state is now, you know, really on

833
00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:18,370
board with this. So we're very, very happy about that.

834
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:19,970
Next slide.

835
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,930
So wanna just level set about what a battery.

836
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:26,230
In this context is because.

837
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:28,930
It is, it is on the one hand.

838
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,430
The the same kind of, you know, similar to what

839
00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:34,500
you have in your phone or in your car, you

840
00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:37,430
charge it up and then you discharge it. But this

841
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:37,600
is.

842
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,300
At grid scale. So we're talking, you know, significantly more

843
00:39:42,670 --> 00:39:46,000
powerful than, than what you, what you have in your.

844
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:49,030
In your phone or in your car and it it's

845
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:51,430
going to go on five and a half acres at

846
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:53,100
the canal site. And we'll show a picture of that,

847
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,270
that shortly. But.

848
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:55,830
What's important about battery.

849
00:39:57,030 --> 00:40:00,300
Is that improves reliability for the grid? Cause it stores

850
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,030
the energy when it's more available. And then.

851
00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:04,830
Releases it, when, when there's higher demand.

852
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,970
It provides stability because you can smooth renewables. So what

853
00:40:10,970 --> 00:40:13,600
renewables are intermittent. And so you.

854
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,700
Can charge up when the renewables are, are there and

855
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,500
then discharge when the renewables are not there.

856
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,300
Really it can turn on and ramp instantaneously. So if

857
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:24,270
you go up and down, turn on, so it can

858
00:40:24,270 --> 00:40:24,600
balance.

859
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:26,470
Grids when they're stressed.

860
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:30,470
So that that's very important. It really, really helps with

861
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:31,770
affordability because.

862
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:34,970
When you are, you're discharging a battery.

863
00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:37,700
When there's peak and demand.

864
00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:40,670
When peak, when there's peak in demand, you have to

865
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:41,600
turn on as.

866
00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:45,030
The the more expensive resources. And so that's why the

867
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:45,830
prices go up.

868
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:49,030
So when you have peaks and demand usually happen in

869
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:50,200
the, the afternoon and evening.

870
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,770
And you start turning on units like canal three.

871
00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:56,930
Depending on the day you start turning on these more

872
00:40:56,930 --> 00:40:57,830
expensive peakers.

873
00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:02,270
And this means that you are using power that was

874
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:04,970
generated when it was much cheaper earlier in the day.

875
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:06,670
And so you can discharge.

876
00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:08,570
It, you don't need to turn on that more expensive

877
00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:11,670
peaker. It helps bring down those, those peak, the prices

878
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:12,200
in the peak hours.

879
00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:15,770
And then finally it really helps. It's really important for

880
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:16,300
sustainability.

881
00:41:17,230 --> 00:41:18,700
You you charge the battery.

882
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,000
When a luxury electricity prices are the cheapest.

883
00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:25,430
That's also when renewables are generating the most.

884
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:29,430
And then, then you discharge when you don't have the

885
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:32,770
renewables. And so you're able to use cleaner energy. Now

886
00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:33,970
our battery will not connect.

887
00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:36,370
Directly to a renewable facility. That is one way of

888
00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:39,030
doing it. Our battery will connect directly to the grid,

889
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,070
but the way the Massachusetts program is set up, you

890
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:42,470
have.

891
00:41:42,970 --> 00:41:46,800
To charge during hours where it is highest renewable penetration,

892
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:49,270
and there's very specific set hours for the program.

893
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,830
It changes depending on the season.

894
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:55,230
But so you're Def you're charging when renewables are there,

895
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:58,030
when it's the cheapest, and then you're discharging when renewables

896
00:41:58,030 --> 00:42:00,370
aren't there and it's the most expensive. So it really,

897
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,930
really.

898
00:42:01,030 --> 00:42:04,600
Is a quite effective tool for, for meeting the, the,

899
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:06,600
our, these multiple goals we're trying to accomplish.

900
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,570
Next slide. So this is sort of the, the, the

901
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:13,930
project we're proposing. We are putting it. We want to

902
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:14,970
put a battery at canal.

903
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:20,030
Because the incite offers existing energy infrastructure that is available

904
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,370
now and which will bring down costs.

905
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
If, if what is their supports battery development, few with

906
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,800
fewer environmental and community impacts than on a brand new

907
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:29,930
site.

908
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:34,570
The project provides much needed storage to support grid reliability

909
00:42:34,570 --> 00:42:35,300
here in the state.

910
00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:39,230
And in the Commonwealth, excuse me, it's in the Commonwealth,

911
00:42:40,070 --> 00:42:42,270
this supporting the Commonwealth's clean energy goals.

912
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:44,830
So, and, and what it really does.

913
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,500
Is set the next chapter for canal generating. This is,

914
00:42:49,870 --> 00:42:51,430
you know, 1966.

915
00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:54,070
We don't know how long that unit is going to

916
00:42:54,370 --> 00:42:57,930
continue. We need that unit right now, but there be

917
00:42:57,930 --> 00:43:00,070
a time when that when you, when unit one and

918
00:43:00,070 --> 00:43:00,270
unit.

919
00:43:00,630 --> 00:43:03,670
Two don't don't no longer are there. We don't know

920
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:03,930
when.

921
00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:06,770
But that we have to have to acknowledge that this

922
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:07,470
is the next chapter.

923
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:08,800
In canal general.

924
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:12,470
So, this is what we're proposing.

925
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:15,270
And by the way, this, this was, you'll see that

926
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:18,930
ship right there, that we were delivering delivering oil during

927
00:43:19,070 --> 00:43:21,100
Fern so that we can keep help keep the lights

928
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:21,370
on.

929
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:23,830
So the, the project

930
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:27,030
will be on that open spot of land that you

931
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:29,570
see snow covered. Right now, we'll get into details on

932
00:43:29,570 --> 00:43:32,470
the map in a little bit. We, we, again, as

933
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:32,670
we.

934
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:36,700
Said, use existing infrastructure, the available land, the substation, the

935
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,830
interconnection that saves money and time.

936
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:43,830
We, it will be up to 320 megawatts of a

937
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:46,200
four hour battery. So discharge over four hours.

938
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:50,930
It's gonna utilize next generation lithium ion technology that has

939
00:43:51,070 --> 00:43:51,930
significantly.

940
00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:55,970
Reduces fire risk. It's a, the, the, the safest technology

941
00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:57,600
and why it is gonna talk about that in a

942
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,970
little bit. And then we are in the final stages

943
00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:00,800
of the.

944
00:44:01,030 --> 00:44:02,970
Vendor selection from, for the battery.

945
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:07,470
And that that selection will determine the exact megawatts, but

946
00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:09,200
it will all be on this five and a half

947
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,770
acre parcel.

948
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:12,930
And so that's, we'll we'll know.

949
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,300
Relatively soon. Exactly how many megawatts we'll be able to

950
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:16,700
put there.

951
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:20,270
So in terms of benefits for.

952
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:23,500
Sandwich in the Cape. Again, we've talked about a new

953
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,300
pilot agreement and community benefits agreement.

954
00:44:26,370 --> 00:44:27,930
There'll be two to 300 construction jobs.

955
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:33,030
We will be then upskilling the current canal generating employees

956
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:35,930
so that they can run the batteries as well. So

957
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:36,600
really training.

958
00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:40,970
For future jobs and we'll be working. We believe we're

959
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:44,430
conversation with mass maritime to really enhance that program for

960
00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:44,970
batteries.

961
00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:47,970
And then we'll also see reduced emissions.

962
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,270
For from expected lower oil and gas run time.

963
00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:55,930
At across the system for sure. But also we've run

964
00:44:55,930 --> 00:44:56,200
the numbers.

965
00:44:57,030 --> 00:45:01,470
At canal and there are reduced emissions, particularly on, on

966
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:02,230
hot summer days.

967
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,970
You'll see reduced emissions coming from when you run canal

968
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:08,930
one and two, because you can discharge the battery. You

969
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:11,030
lower the run, the battery.

970
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,930
Let's say the battery for, for round numbers is 300

971
00:45:13,930 --> 00:45:18,030
megawatts and canal. One or canal. Two is 550 megawatts.

972
00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:19,100
You can run canal.

973
00:45:19,870 --> 00:45:22,230
Two at a lower amount, discharge the battery. So you're

974
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:24,470
just not burning as much oil. You're not generating as

975
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:27,770
much emissions, both CO2, but also, you know, lo local.

976
00:45:28,070 --> 00:45:31,930
Emissions, so good thing for, for local air quality. And

977
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:32,230
then finally,

978
00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:35,970
if offshore wind does come back, we always had a

979
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:39,030
vision that this canal would be a place where you

980
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:40,430
could interconnect offshore, wind.

981
00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:43,230
With avoiding a beach landing, which we know we want

982
00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:43,670
to avoid.

983
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:47,970
And so you can minimize the, the impact of, of

984
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,430
offshore wind.

985
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:53,100
By interconnecting at canal, and that doesn't preclude this, this

986
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:54,970
battery project doesn't preclude any.

987
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:57,770
Future interconnection for offshore wind or.

988
00:45:58,570 --> 00:46:01,300
Repowering of the existing units with, with new technology.

989
00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:05,270
So it's really, it, it really is a, a win-win

990
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:06,000
from that perspective.

991
00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:09,200
Okay. So, so this is where.

992
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,230
Where it's. So this is the sort of one mile

993
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:12,970
radius.

994
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,770
Map, you'll see canal generating on there and you'll see

995
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:19,300
the, this gray share shaded area where the project will

996
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,800
be. This, this just gives you.

997
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:24,830
Sort of an overview, the next slide, dive in and

998
00:46:24,830 --> 00:46:26,930
see exactly where, where it is on the site.

999
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:28,970
And so this is what we're proposing.

1000
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,970
That's about five and a half acres.

1001
00:46:32,070 --> 00:46:34,370
Underutilized unutilized really right now.

1002
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:39,930
And a parking lot and this very, very underutilized and

1003
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,300
just some lay down area, frankly, it's a field.

1004
00:46:43,570 --> 00:46:45,970
And then next slide, you can see what it will

1005
00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:47,000
potentially look like.

1006
00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:49,930
This is a, a markup. Doesn't no guarantees. It's gonna

1007
00:46:49,930 --> 00:46:51,700
look like this. We're still working on the engineering.

1008
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:54,970
But, but this is in general, what you'll, what you'll

1009
00:46:54,970 --> 00:46:58,200
expect. And you'll see that the, the batteries are.

1010
00:46:58,930 --> 00:47:02,070
Effectively container or shipping containers. They look nicer than shipping

1011
00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:04,770
containers, but that's the size and there'll be about a

1012
00:47:04,770 --> 00:47:05,930
hundred of them. Give or take.

1013
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:09,500
On the site. And so they'll be laid out roughly

1014
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:09,970
like this.

1015
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,830
Again, this is notional. We're still working on the details,

1016
00:47:13,930 --> 00:47:15,830
but this is, this gives you a sense of where

1017
00:47:15,830 --> 00:47:17,200
it'll be and, and how it'll look.

1018
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:20,970
Next slide. So I want to get back to why

1019
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:24,000
canal, we think is the great site for building a

1020
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:24,800
battery.

1021
00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:29,370
So Massachusetts has five criteria for site suitability.

1022
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:34,030
For new major energy projects. So climate change, resilience, carbon

1023
00:47:34,030 --> 00:47:35,930
storage and sequestration biodiversity.

1024
00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:39,570
Agricultural resources and social and environmental burdens.

1025
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:43,930
Burdens. So number one on climate change resilience, we know

1026
00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:44,600
we are on the water.

1027
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:47,030
So we do need to worry about sea level rise.

1028
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,570
We had to worry about that building canal, unit three.

1029
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:52,800
And if anybody who's been there, it's really high up

1030
00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:53,430
and.

1031
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,070
So we can manage, we know how to manage climate

1032
00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:58,770
change resilience and sea level rise. And so we will

1033
00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:01,700
be building these, these, the, the battery systems on.

1034
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,370
Platforms so that they're above any projected storm surge or

1035
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:05,970
anything like that.

1036
00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:09,970
On the other on the other four criteria, there's a

1037
00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:13,030
tool that Massachusetts has, and we are at the very

1038
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:14,700
top for each of them because.

1039
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,470
In many ways, because it is an existing site, an

1040
00:48:18,770 --> 00:48:21,830
existing industrial site, but also this part of the site

1041
00:48:21,830 --> 00:48:23,200
is, is relatively untouched.

1042
00:48:23,970 --> 00:48:26,230
And so it, it's not a site that has ever

1043
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:30,770
been used that has real carbon storage benefits or biodiversity

1044
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:31,030
benefits.

1045
00:48:31,870 --> 00:48:34,470
Benefits. It's not an agricultural site and we do not

1046
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,470
sit within what is considered by the state of Massachusetts,

1047
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:38,370
a burdened area.

1048
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:43,430
And so it doesn't have adverse impacts for, for burdened

1049
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:45,970
areas. And in fact, just in more in general terms,

1050
00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:46,930
as we discussed.

1051
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:50,370
We do believe that this will have I improved, improved

1052
00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:53,570
the local environment by, by having some, some re reductions

1053
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:55,270
in, in runtime for the canal.

1054
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:56,970
Existing generation.

1055
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,970
Now we will be applying for a permit and we'll

1056
00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:01,430
get to the permitting timeline in a bit.

1057
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,970
Through a consolidated permit through the energy facility, sighting board

1058
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:09,500
EF SB has been around, but this is new regulations

1059
00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:10,100
as of July.

1060
00:49:10,570 --> 00:49:12,770
One. And so we'll be one of the early projects

1061
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:14,700
that goes through, goes through this process.

1062
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:18,030
But it will be, will. What we will do is

1063
00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:21,230
we'll be you, you talk to all of the, the

1064
00:49:21,230 --> 00:49:23,000
various permitting agencies, but then you submit.

1065
00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:26,370
One consolidated permit to the EF SB. So there's a

1066
00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:27,830
stakeholder engagement process.

1067
00:49:28,830 --> 00:49:30,570
And we are engaged with all the various agencies and

1068
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:33,230
then it goes to EFSP one of the requirements.

1069
00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:35,930
As part of this is that if you are with,

1070
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:38,470
if the project is within a one mile radius of

1071
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:42,200
a burdened area, you submit a detailed, cumulative impact analysis.

1072
00:49:42,570 --> 00:49:45,370
Describing how the project will affect public health and existing

1073
00:49:45,370 --> 00:49:47,300
environmental stressors. Now canal.

1074
00:49:48,270 --> 00:49:50,600
Generating canal, energy storage is not within a one mile

1075
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:52,070
radius of a burdened area.

1076
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:55,600
So we do not need to submit that report, but

1077
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,370
regardless we are committed to mitigating any potential impacts from

1078
00:50:00,370 --> 00:50:00,770
the project.

1079
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,930
And we're already very much thinking about that. So, so

1080
00:50:03,930 --> 00:50:04,270
next slide.

1081
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:07,300
So here are the potential impacts as we see them

1082
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:07,570
now.

1083
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:10,300
And I'm gonna, I wanna be, you know, we've we've,

1084
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:12,030
this is our first meeting in public, but we have

1085
00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:15,700
started talking to stakeholders in, in private and we've already

1086
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,070
gotten.

1087
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:20,200
Feedback and are addressing that. And so we'll, we'll, we're

1088
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,770
very much open to feedback here and in future forums.

1089
00:50:24,830 --> 00:50:26,830
Forums. So I think the key thing to know, as

1090
00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:29,830
we're thinking about feedback about the impacts and we, we

1091
00:50:29,830 --> 00:50:31,600
keep harping on this, but it's the sort of the

1092
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,670
reason this project is.

1093
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:35,830
Is here today is that we're reusing it in existing

1094
00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:36,270
infrastructure.

1095
00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:39,030
And that in and of itself reduces.

1096
00:50:40,070 --> 00:50:41,970
Reduces impacts across the board. And that's a, that's a

1097
00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:43,200
really important, important point.

1098
00:50:45,070 --> 00:50:47,500
On construction impacts. And we know that this is probably

1099
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,230
gonna be one of the biggest.

1100
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:52,930
Concerns is that the, just the construction burden in gen

1101
00:50:52,930 --> 00:50:56,000
in the area from the, the bridge construction.

1102
00:50:56,830 --> 00:50:58,470
And so we really are thinking about that and what,

1103
00:50:58,470 --> 00:51:00,970
and how to reduce the sort of overall construction bur

1104
00:51:00,970 --> 00:51:01,770
burden area.

1105
00:51:02,570 --> 00:51:05,670
But most construction impacts will be on the project site

1106
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:07,570
itself. So really localized.

1107
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:13,930
The, the offsite impacts our primarily equipment deliveries, and those

1108
00:51:13,930 --> 00:51:15,070
will happen over several months.

1109
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,800
That's the, the battery units.

1110
00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:20,600
The electrical infrastructure, et cetera, that's all needed.

1111
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:24,500
Our aim is to have that those deliveries happen during

1112
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:26,370
winter months where there's just less traffic.

1113
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,070
We can't, you know, there's no, no promises, but you'll

1114
00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:31,300
see the schedule right now, which we'll get to.

1115
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:34,000
Deliveries are all happening at the, at the front end

1116
00:51:34,070 --> 00:51:35,930
and sort of January, February timeline.

1117
00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:38,030
So again, we'll get there.

1118
00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:43,070
But there's other other construction impact. We'll be probably around

1119
00:51:43,070 --> 00:51:45,930
noise and we'll work building the foundation. So we'll work

1120
00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:46,770
to, to mitigate that.

1121
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:50,300
Additional impacts, you know, visual impacts. We'll be putting in

1122
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:52,200
new trees and landscaping to minimize.

1123
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:57,300
Any visual impacts the noise from the operations. We'll be

1124
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:00,800
doing noise modeling analysis as part of the project design.

1125
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,030
To ensure that the best operations are designed to meet

1126
00:52:04,030 --> 00:52:07,500
or exceed applicable noise standards. We already know how to

1127
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,470
do this because the power plant is there.

1128
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:13,370
Traffic. We don't expect any change in traffic patterns once

1129
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:16,300
the, the best is operating. It's the same number of

1130
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:16,770
employees.

1131
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Employees, the construction phase we talked about we'll we'll have

1132
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,000
a traffic study and then stormwater.

1133
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:24,570
That's the other thing we're, we're we're thinking about, you

1134
00:52:24,570 --> 00:52:27,930
saw on the map, there were retention ponds that we

1135
00:52:28,070 --> 00:52:30,830
may have to we'll have to upgrade the facility in.

1136
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:33,030
One way or another, whether that's moving the retention ponds

1137
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:33,430
or.

1138
00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:38,230
Building actually above the retention ponds and having permeable platforms.

1139
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:40,200
We're thinking about that. That's an engineering question.

1140
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:43,570
But we will be sure to meet mass DEP standards

1141
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,030
and sound town, standard guidelines. So top of mind for

1142
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:47,600
us right now.

1143
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:51,500
Next slide safety commitment. I know this is also top

1144
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:53,600
of mind for many people. So why, why don't you

1145
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
talk about this battery technology and how we approach safety?

1146
00:52:56,830 --> 00:52:59,000
Sure. So, so as with Mitch at, at the beginning,

1147
00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:02,670
JIRA operates about 70 gigawatts of power assets worldwide.

1148
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:06,670
And so safety really is our number one priority beyond

1149
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:07,200
any project.

1150
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:10,970
And so we take safety very seriously for all our

1151
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:13,230
operations. We have an excellent track record.

1152
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,270
And we intend to

1153
00:53:16,270 --> 00:53:19,300
sustain that moving forward with this project, both during construction.

1154
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:21,670
As well as throughout operations.

1155
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,930
The in it's a, the code compliance. There's a number

1156
00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:28,770
of different codes for battery projects. We intend to follow

1157
00:53:28,930 --> 00:53:30,670
all the codes, some Massachusetts.

1158
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:33,500
As well as N FPA, which are buyer regulations.

1159
00:53:34,570 --> 00:53:37,030
As well as UL regulations in addition.

1160
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000
We are working with top rate suppliers who have never

1161
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:43,030
had safety incident, as well as.

1162
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:48,000
Top-notch engineering firms in, in order to maximize safety.

1163
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,700
There's a number of battery.

1164
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,670
Protection. So there's a number of different layers for how

1165
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:56,030
they make batteries safer than they used to be.

1166
00:53:57,100 --> 00:54:01,100
So one is that every battery is continuously monitored for

1167
00:54:01,170 --> 00:54:04,830
its temperature for its voltage. Current cell imbalance, as.

1168
00:54:05,230 --> 00:54:08,200
Well as resistance. And if anything goes out of typical,

1169
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:11,930
operation range, then power to the batteries are cut right

1170
00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:12,000
away.

1171
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:16,230
All right. Second thing is that the, the, each container

1172
00:54:16,270 --> 00:54:20,430
includes detection, alarm systems, stroke lights, and so forth to

1173
00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:20,770
alert.

1174
00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:23,000
The fire department to where everybody in controls.

1175
00:54:24,070 --> 00:54:25,370
And so forth. And then the containers.

1176
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:28,230
Which are shown up here in the right are designed

1177
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:31,700
in order to mitigate fire if and when that happens.

1178
00:54:32,170 --> 00:54:34,270
So part of the codes that I mentioned above.

1179
00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:36,670
What they, there, there was a time where the hope

1180
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,230
was that the batteries would never go on fire. So.

1181
00:54:40,070 --> 00:54:42,000
Kind of two things to address that one. Is it

1182
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,930
it not long ago, just five, five to 10 years

1183
00:54:44,930 --> 00:54:47,930
ago. The technology that was being used was nickel manganese.

1184
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:50,770
NA's cobalt was one of the prevalent ones and others,

1185
00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:53,570
and it has an oxide in there that's fairly weak.

1186
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,470
And so when there's heating it, it.

1187
00:54:56,830 --> 00:54:59,030
It degrades and then the oxygen's released and you get

1188
00:54:59,030 --> 00:55:02,270
thermal runaway. So that was a problem. And that's actually

1189
00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:04,430
still a problem with all the batteries that are in

1190
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:04,670
her.

1191
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:07,200
Computers and our cell phones and so forth.

1192
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:11,670
The new battery technology that's in place. The storage today

1193
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:14,230
is called iron lithium iron phosphate.

1194
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,000
And it has a much more tenacious oxygen that doesn't

1195
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,070
degrade. And so thermal runaway risk are significantly less.

1196
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,600
So the battery chemistry is already improved quite significantly.

1197
00:55:26,570 --> 00:55:29,200
The second thing is that the, the other there's a

1198
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,470
lot of engineering controls now where the assumption is okay.

1199
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:34,300
Let's assume there is a fire.

1200
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:37,800
Then how do we contain it? What happens then?

1201
00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:41,030
So, what they do in these tests is like UL

1202
00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:45,100
9, 9 54, and as well as NFPA, a 55.

1203
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,000
As they look to actually start fires.

1204
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:51,600
Fires similarly, a thermal runaway.

1205
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:55,200
And the design, the containers now. So that between the

1206
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:58,970
battery cells, there's actually protection to stop the battery from

1207
00:55:58,970 --> 00:56:00,430
falling from one cell to another.

1208
00:56:00,830 --> 00:56:04,500
Cell on top of that, then the container's designed to

1209
00:56:04,970 --> 00:56:05,470
mitigate fire.

1210
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:09,100
And so when they test these, they actually will put,

1211
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:11,500
put the fire in and see what happens. And the

1212
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:13,970
key for the test is that it's just contained to

1213
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,270
the.

1214
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:19,030
Container and another container doesn't catch fire. So the idea

1215
00:56:19,070 --> 00:56:21,230
then is that if a fire were to occur,

1216
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:24,770
the fire department comes, they actually just watch it burn

1217
00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,030
and that's, that's it. And so that's what these codes

1218
00:56:28,030 --> 00:56:29,800
are designed to, to implement.

1219
00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:31,930
So the

1220
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,100
let's see, in, in addition to the container technology and

1221
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,930
the battery technology, the roads.

1222
00:56:38,970 --> 00:56:41,970
In lanes and the best layout that you've showed earlier.

1223
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:45,430
Is situated in such a way in order to mitigate

1224
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:49,030
safety hazards as well to enable fire response.

1225
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:52,500
And then in addition to that, we're looking at water

1226
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:56,030
management, raised elevation, reinforced land, as you mentioning.

1227
00:56:56,830 --> 00:56:59,700
In order to improve resilience throughout the years.

1228
00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:02,470
And then a key part of this is we will

1229
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:06,200
be sponsoring emergency response training for the fire department.

1230
00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:09,000
Working hand in hand to make sure that the town

1231
00:57:09,070 --> 00:57:10,830
and the community are comfortable.

1232
00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:14,030
With it and how, you know, what the response plan

1233
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:14,370
would be.

1234
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:23,670
We've already started. This is another safety slide. Why, why

1235
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:25,430
I touched on all this stuff and you know, we,

1236
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:27,430
we bring why in, cause he knows this stuff, the

1237
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:29,070
technical stuff. If anyone has technical.

1238
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,970
Questions is this guy. It will answer them. We, we

1239
00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:33,470
can go to the next slide. Why, why? I already

1240
00:57:33,470 --> 00:57:34,000
touched on this?

1241
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:37,830
One question that is important is how we think about

1242
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:38,470
decommissioning.

1243
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:44,000
Because you, you want to thank 20 years ahead. Batteries,

1244
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:47,300
battery systems have a veteran best systems, have an expected.

1245
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:50,270
Lifespan of about 20 years. So we are already starting

1246
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:51,670
to think about decommissioning.

1247
00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:56,370
You. And so there is a decommissioning protocol for, for

1248
00:57:56,370 --> 00:57:59,970
battery energy storage systems and you remove everything. You recycle

1249
00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:00,370
the batter.

1250
00:58:00,830 --> 00:58:04,030
Batteries, et cetera. We expect to be able to provide

1251
00:58:04,070 --> 00:58:07,070
financial assurance for decommissioning in the form of a bond

1252
00:58:07,070 --> 00:58:08,300
or an escrow payment.

1253
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:11,600
Just so that that's all guaranteed. I think though, the

1254
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,270
one thing we want to say is that who knows

1255
00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:16,300
what the world looks like in 20 years, we may

1256
00:58:16,670 --> 00:58:17,000
the te.

1257
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,200
Technology may be totally different. And we te tear all

1258
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,770
these out and put in something new, or we may

1259
00:58:21,770 --> 00:58:24,830
be as, you know, as batteries degrade, replacing them, upgrading

1260
00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:25,200
them, et cetera.

1261
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,430
And so 20 years is a long time from now,

1262
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:31,000
but, but we're already thinking about making sure that the,

1263
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,500
the resources are there for decommissioning.

1264
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:37,770
Next slide. So, so this is the schedule, the preliminary

1265
00:58:37,870 --> 00:58:39,800
high level schedule. Don't take this.

1266
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:43,100
As, as truth, take this as notional.

1267
00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:45,930
Right now, because things can change, but I wanna talk

1268
00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:48,570
about just a couple of key things on, on this

1269
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:48,930
schedule.

1270
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,670
So you'll look at when we're going to come online.

1271
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,500
And so that is the, that when this is it's

1272
00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,470
called Cod commercial operation date, and that is Q1 2030.

1273
00:59:01,230 --> 00:59:02,370
23 that's when we aim to come online.

1274
00:59:04,070 --> 00:59:05,500
So that's, you know, that's a few years from now,

1275
00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:07,930
there's a, there's a world in which we can pull

1276
00:59:07,930 --> 00:59:09,930
that a couple months, a couple months forward.

1277
00:59:10,970 --> 00:59:13,970
Everybody would like that, but, but we're held up by,

1278
00:59:13,970 --> 00:59:15,300
you know, there's just any number of things that you

1279
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,600
have to do when you're building a project.

1280
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:20,800
The longest lead item on this is actually permitting.

1281
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,230
And so we are working on the permitting plan right

1282
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:26,930
now, as we mentioned, we apply for a permit through

1283
00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:27,770
the EF SB.

1284
00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:30,770
EFSP we expect to apply for that permit.

1285
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:35,300
In early Q2 next year, assuming this all moves ahead.

1286
00:59:36,430 --> 00:59:40,030
And then there is a 15 month turnaround on approvals.

1287
00:59:41,230 --> 00:59:43,370
Approvals. And so we can't start construction until that's all

1288
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:43,830
approved.

1289
00:59:44,830 --> 00:59:47,030
So we're really looking at construction starting at the end

1290
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:48,800
of 28 or early 29.

1291
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,270
Before we, we, before we submit the permit to application

1292
00:59:54,270 --> 00:59:56,800
to the E F S B, there is a range.

1293
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,970
Of required community and stakeholder engagement.

1294
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,600
And some of this we've already started. We do meetings

1295
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,770
with all, all key stakeholders and there's sort of a

1296
01:00:05,770 --> 01:00:08,200
list in the regulations of how it works. And so

1297
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,770
we're, we're starting to do that privately.

1298
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,800
And then there are a number of public meetings that

1299
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,000
are required. So the first, this, this does not qualify

1300
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:17,800
as public meeting, but.

1301
01:00:18,370 --> 01:00:20,000
It the first public meeting though. It is very public.

1302
01:00:22,030 --> 01:00:24,700
None of us qualify apparently, but the first public meeting

1303
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:26,030
will be two weeks from today.

1304
01:00:26,770 --> 01:00:28,030
So September 3rd.

1305
01:00:29,070 --> 01:00:33,500
At, at 6:00 PM at what's the, the center for active

1306
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,570
living. Yep. And so you can find out information on

1307
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:36,770
that.

1308
01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:39,070
On our website, which also went live today.

1309
01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:43,570
Canal energy storage, ma.com.

1310
01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:46,670
We try to get just canal, energy storage, but someone

1311
01:00:46,670 --> 01:00:48,930
else has that. We're trying to buy that from them.

1312
01:00:48,970 --> 01:00:51,030
We can't can't even reach them. So we don't know

1313
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:52,100
what it's an empty site.

1314
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:55,670
Nothing there, but, but you can find out information about

1315
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,230
the, about the public meeting.

1316
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,070
And there'll be lots of opportunity for engagement.

1317
01:01:01,030 --> 01:01:03,500
Through that public meeting and, and then additional public meetings.

1318
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,500
So we'll also have another public meeting.

1319
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:07,970
In January or February.

1320
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:10,800
Once we know the results from the RFP.

1321
01:01:11,870 --> 01:01:14,370
RFP that again, that application for the RFP is due

1322
01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:18,930
September 10th. We believe we have a very strong application and

1323
01:01:18,930 --> 01:01:19,930
we will know if.

1324
01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:22,830
We are awarded through that process in January.

1325
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:25,970
And then we'll have another public meeting after that because

1326
01:01:25,970 --> 01:01:27,970
we'll have much more information about moving forward.

1327
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:31,270
That doesn't mean we're not gonna be around or engaging.

1328
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,770
We're working on some stuff right now about in interim

1329
01:01:35,830 --> 01:01:36,930
en engagements. We may.

1330
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,470
Have another public meeting. If we decide that there's enough

1331
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:41,970
interest in the, in the interim, but those two are

1332
01:01:41,970 --> 01:01:43,930
things that we, we definitely, we definitely know.

1333
01:01:44,830 --> 01:01:46,570
We'll be doing, we really hope you encourage.

1334
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:49,770
Everyone to come out to that meeting on September 3rd.

1335
01:01:51,070 --> 01:01:53,830
And, and then yeah, the, the rest of the, the

1336
01:01:53,830 --> 01:01:56,230
rest of the time is the permit Inc. The engineering

1337
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:57,370
and then construction.

1338
01:01:58,170 --> 01:02:00,970
Starting, you know, at the end of 20, 28. And so

1339
01:02:00,970 --> 01:02:03,270
that's why, when I mentioned we're, the aim is to

1340
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:05,370
do, do all those deliveries in the winter. That's why

1341
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:06,230
it looks like that. Right.

1342
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:09,500
Now this just, you know, frankly, nobody wants to deal

1343
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:11,500
with the traffic in the summer.

1344
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:14,930
Anyway, I came down here this morning and there was

1345
01:02:14,930 --> 01:02:15,300
already traffic.

1346
01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:21,000
So, so yeah, that's, that's the, that's the schedule. Next

1347
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:21,030
slide.

1348
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,570
And I did. I just actually went through all this.

1349
01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:26,930
This is the, the out, out community outreach and engagement

1350
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:29,700
plan, but this is a little more detailed, but.

1351
01:02:30,170 --> 01:02:31,970
We have, you know, all of the, all of this

1352
01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:34,930
will be happening over the next few months. Lots of

1353
01:02:34,930 --> 01:02:38,070
meetings, lots of engagement, lots of opportunities for feedback. And.

1354
01:02:38,570 --> 01:02:40,700
We really hope to get your feedback again. As I

1355
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:42,930
said, we, in, in some of our early stakeholder meetings,

1356
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:45,970
we got really great feedback and already started addressing that.

1357
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:50,230
Next slide. So, yeah, that's it. We're, we're eager for

1358
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:50,970
your feedback.

1359
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:53,470
And then the next slide has all of our contact

1360
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:54,200
information.

1361
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:57,930
So for now, you can reach out to me. That's

1362
01:02:57,930 --> 01:03:00,100
my email address. Feel free to take a picture of

1363
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:02,670
that if you want. That's our, that's our address in

1364
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:02,930
Houston.

1365
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:04,970
Where you send all mail and we know we'll get

1366
01:03:04,970 --> 01:03:05,570
it. Or phone number.

1367
01:03:06,370 --> 01:03:08,570
For our Houston headquarters are up there. You also know

1368
01:03:08,570 --> 01:03:09,430
where the plant is.

1369
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,700
And so, you know, go to the go. If you

1370
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:13,500
have questions, you can, you know, drop 'em off at

1371
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:13,930
security.

1372
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:15,970
Website is up there.

1373
01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:18,300
At is live as of today.

1374
01:03:19,470 --> 01:03:22,770
And will be continued to have new updates as, as

1375
01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:25,230
things develop. So, you know, keep, you can continue to

1376
01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:27,070
Mon monitor that and then there'll be there.

1377
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:29,430
There's an email list. You can sign up for that.

1378
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:34,970
Through the email there. Info canal, energy storage, ma.com. You

1379
01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:35,570
can also sign up.

1380
01:03:35,870 --> 01:03:37,230
For the email list on our website.

1381
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:42,030
And with that open to questions.

1382
01:03:42,970 --> 01:03:43,700
Questions comments, et cetera.

1383
01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:46,770
Questions from the board.

1384
01:03:50,500 --> 01:03:51,000
I can go.

1385
01:03:52,070 --> 01:03:54,570
I, I, this is a very exciting and.

1386
01:03:56,070 --> 01:03:57,970
Awesome project. I think in, you know, looking at the

1387
01:03:57,970 --> 01:04:00,070
trends of what's been going on in Massachusetts with the

1388
01:04:00,070 --> 01:04:04,030
plant closings, Somerset, Plymouth, I, I, so to.

1389
01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:07,100
See a plant, actively looking at new technologies to be

1390
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:08,100
reused is very exciting.

1391
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:12,000
You, you really touched on all the questions I was

1392
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,970
thinking I was gonna have for this project. So that's

1393
01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:14,000
great.

1394
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,570
The only thing I think.

1395
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,030
This is, you know, having these.

1396
01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:21,700
These new technologies and these smaller.

1397
01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:25,770
More modular technologies really helps with grid hardening too, for,

1398
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:29,100
for safety as well. Mm-hmm , you know, I, I

1399
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:30,370
know I've been researching that.

1400
01:04:30,970 --> 01:04:33,200
A lot of the plans are now to really go

1401
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,500
more in our localized manner because of.

1402
01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:38,800
It's easier to control if there's some sort of attack

1403
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,930
on the grid. Yep. Exactly.

1404
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:43,930
The battery technology. You touched on that, cuz I was

1405
01:04:43,930 --> 01:04:46,670
gonna say it's moving so fast, but you touched on

1406
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:47,700
the decommissioning.

1407
01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:51,800
And the, the jobs I was gonna ask about that.

1408
01:04:51,930 --> 01:04:53,970
And it seems like I know a lot of times

1409
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,100
it's.

1410
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,500
It's people from Texas are kind of going around doing

1411
01:04:57,570 --> 01:04:59,470
a lot of the battery installation, but it sounds like

1412
01:04:59,470 --> 01:05:01,600
you're gonna have localized training. So that's great as well.

1413
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:01,930
Yeah. Yep.

1414
01:05:02,970 --> 01:05:05,970
Yep. The only, I guess question is, you know, for

1415
01:05:05,970 --> 01:05:06,470
some reason,

1416
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:09,600
this project doesn't move forward. Whether it's.

1417
01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,300
It's because the Commonwealth or whatever, is there, are there

1418
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,500
any other plans maybe in the process for.

1419
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:16,200
Re utilizing the site as well.

1420
01:05:18,270 --> 01:05:20,600
Plans is too strong, a word it's something I've always,

1421
01:05:20,770 --> 01:05:23,430
there's something we're always talking about. Yeah. And so there

1422
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:25,600
are, there are conversations about.

1423
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,270
What everything looks like that's next, but there's nothing concrete.

1424
01:05:30,070 --> 01:05:32,600
And so right now we're really focused on, on this

1425
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,830
project. We think it's.

1426
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:36,770
It's a great project. And so we're really, really do

1427
01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:37,500
hope it moves ahead.

1428
01:05:38,430 --> 01:05:40,930
And in, and, you know, so we're, we're looking at

1429
01:05:40,930 --> 01:05:43,470
all the options for that. And we think it's a,

1430
01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:45,700
you know, consider it frankly, AFL a flagship project for

1431
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:45,930
us. Yes.

1432
01:05:46,770 --> 01:05:49,300
So it's, it's getting the top, top attention from leaders

1433
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:52,270
in our company. All right. The project developers, the lead

1434
01:05:52,270 --> 01:05:54,430
project developer is actually in Japan at our headquarters.

1435
01:05:54,930 --> 01:05:58,270
Right now, you know, briefing our senior senior leadership on,

1436
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,270
on this project. So scene is very, very important. I

1437
01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:02,930
think it's an awesome project. So excited.

1438
01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:04,470
I'm excited for it. Thank you.

1439
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,970
I mean, I just, yeah, you touched on pretty much

1440
01:06:10,970 --> 01:06:13,300
everything, which is, which is always nice that you come.

1441
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,930
Prepared. I know that the, you know, you touched on

1442
01:06:16,930 --> 01:06:19,230
the safety thing, which I know is, you know, I

1443
01:06:19,230 --> 01:06:19,500
got.

1444
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:22,370
You know, that's, that's probably gonna be the biggest, you

1445
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:24,970
know, stumbling block for you guys, you know, publicly is.

1446
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,700
You know, how much of a risk this opposed to,

1447
01:06:27,930 --> 01:06:30,470
you know, the surrounding, you know, neighbors, but it sounds

1448
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:31,100
like that that.

1449
01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:34,030
Fact you have some serious thought went into that versus

1450
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,970
what it, you know, what it used to be. Exactly.

1451
01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:37,030
Yeah. Which is great.

1452
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:40,770
And that you're, you know, there's gonna be training for

1453
01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:42,970
our fire department to assist with that, which is also

1454
01:06:43,030 --> 01:06:43,370
huge.

1455
01:06:44,270 --> 01:06:46,000
But no, thank you. As a, you know, like Dave

1456
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,000
was saying it's, you know, as I'm running through my

1457
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,830
questions, I just like the next slide answer at the

1458
01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:51,930
next slide answer. So thank you. Appreciate it.

1459
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,830
Yeah, not to be rude of, but the.

1460
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,200
Outreach the fires.

1461
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:01,700
Was always important to me and yep.

1462
01:07:02,570 --> 01:07:05,200
Thank you for including that perspective.

1463
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,700
Yeah, of course. So key, obviously a key consideration.

1464
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,100
And as, as all the plan knows safety comes first.

1465
01:07:13,030 --> 01:07:14,770
So the plant team is fantastic.

1466
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:17,770
Already, we're gonna train them on, on this piece of

1467
01:07:17,770 --> 01:07:20,000
it. So all of that is really, really cool.

1468
01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:23,770
And I, I had the opportunity with a number of

1469
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:27,100
other public officials to get a preview of this presentation

1470
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,670
and pieces of it several weeks ago.

1471
01:07:29,030 --> 01:07:32,000
So I think it's certainly exciting, low impact product.

1472
01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:36,230
But also, you know, a very important new opportunity for

1473
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:39,500
significant, meaningful new revenue for the town, right? The town

1474
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:40,570
does not have.

1475
01:07:41,230 --> 01:07:44,000
A lot of opportunities for meaningful new revenue, right? When

1476
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,230
we.

1477
01:07:45,030 --> 01:07:46,670
See some of these smaller commercial buildings.

1478
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:50,030
Buildings constructed. That's great. All dollars are good dollars, but

1479
01:07:50,030 --> 01:07:53,470
this is actually something that would produce an amount of

1480
01:07:53,470 --> 01:07:55,270
revenue that would make a meaningful difference.

1481
01:07:55,930 --> 01:07:58,930
Especially, especially as we look forward towards new projects and

1482
01:07:58,930 --> 01:08:02,670
just, just other initiatives. So I'm very enthusiastic about it.

1483
01:08:02,770 --> 01:08:04,000
I appreciate you being so.

1484
01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:07,070
Thorough in detailed and professional as you, your team always

1485
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:08,270
is. So thank you.

1486
01:08:09,030 --> 01:08:09,970
Thank you. Thank you so much.

1487
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:13,500
What anything? I, I would just say like, you know,

1488
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:16,600
looking out long-term like for the environmental and financial health

1489
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,470
in the town, like, I don't think there's anything better

1490
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:19,070
that we could do.

1491
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:23,500
Over the years, people talk a lot about economic development,

1492
01:08:23,630 --> 01:08:25,930
but if they really a, if they really look at

1493
01:08:25,930 --> 01:08:27,430
like how many actually capital.

1494
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:30,570
Capitalized experienced and knowledgeable developers come to the town.

1495
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:33,470
And as Dave said, when they build things, the scale

1496
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:34,830
is so much smaller than this.

1497
01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:38,270
Just for rough perspective. I know when we did the

1498
01:08:38,270 --> 01:08:38,770
new unit.

1499
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:43,000
Three, the quick start unit that was the financial equivalent

1500
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:44,970
of 25. Stop and shop plazas on.

1501
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,070
On six, which would include the CVS and all the

1502
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:51,600
other businesses around it. So when people talk about sandwich

1503
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,970
doesn't support, economic development, a they don't.

1504
01:08:54,170 --> 01:08:55,930
Don't know what they're talking about, but when you really,

1505
01:08:57,470 --> 01:08:58,070
when you really.

1506
01:08:58,930 --> 01:09:01,370
But when you really look, not that I'm defensive, but

1507
01:09:01,370 --> 01:09:04,970
when you look at, when you look at the opportunity

1508
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:06,670
that this facility provides,

1509
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,070
provides and knowing how antiquated the current infrastructure is and

1510
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:10,770
that this.

1511
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,570
You know, sort of shows that there's a commitment to

1512
01:09:13,570 --> 01:09:16,230
try to reinvigorate and to maximize the use of the

1513
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:16,600
property.

1514
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,370
You know, all of our special energy council, all of

1515
01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:22,500
the consultants we've worked with through the years have always

1516
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:24,970
said, you could never permit a site like this today.

1517
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,830
You know, so there's something valuable there and we just

1518
01:09:28,830 --> 01:09:31,030
hope we can work with all this to, you know,

1519
01:09:31,070 --> 01:09:33,830
enhance that and to end most importantly, to make, you

1520
01:09:33,830 --> 01:09:33,970
know,

1521
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,300
the environmental emissions and everything else that much better.

1522
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:39,930
Yes, sir. And the, the ed child school of, of

1523
01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:40,970
revenue and assessment.

1524
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,200
Would tell you that sandwich has the highest commercial tax

1525
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,930
revenue of any town on the Cape. Thanks to the

1526
01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:48,100
facility that we have in the canal.

1527
01:09:49,230 --> 01:09:51,000
But I would also just like to mention that JIRA

1528
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,430
has been a tremendous partner to the town. Bud mentioned

1529
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:56,070
this before, but we appreciate your ongoing partnership.

1530
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:58,370
In a, in a variety of ways that.

1531
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:01,700
I'm not gonna get into detail on, but you know,

1532
01:10:01,770 --> 01:10:03,370
I know that there's a number of different things. You

1533
01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:05,930
guys have done the donations, et cetera. And, and I

1534
01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:06,300
want to thank you.

1535
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:08,000
Oh, Dave, can I just say one thing that I

1536
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,930
thinks really important too, is like we don't blindly support

1537
01:10:10,930 --> 01:10:13,970
projects. Like we support projects that make sense or really

1538
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:14,100
well.

1539
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:17,930
Designed and developing would make a big difference in a

1540
01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:18,970
positive way to the town.

1541
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,600
But we've worked really closely. And I know the board's

1542
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,370
aware of this, the public probably isn't like, you know,

1543
01:10:23,370 --> 01:10:26,300
we've had the same special energy council for over 30

1544
01:10:26,300 --> 01:10:26,670
years.

1545
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:29,930
For whomever's owned the, the property and they've guided us

1546
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:31,070
really well through the years.

1547
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,970
When Pryor owners have proposed new units.

1548
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,200
One was successful. One was not, but again, we had

1549
01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:43,700
the same special energy council. We had some great consultants.

1550
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:47,030
That we worked with to provide that third party impartial

1551
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:48,600
review of what's being proposed.

1552
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,000
So all the things that Randy and Wyatt touched on,

1553
01:10:52,230 --> 01:10:55,030
we're gonna, you know, triple check that that's accurate making

1554
01:10:55,170 --> 01:10:57,000
out for the, the public and the town.

1555
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:01,930
But we're very confident with the work that's happened, but

1556
01:11:01,930 --> 01:11:04,970
we also have a really good support team behind the

1557
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:05,670
scenes. And.

1558
01:11:06,030 --> 01:11:08,370
I don't even think I've updated the board, but you

1559
01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:11,000
know, we have three sub-consultants that we've reached out to

1560
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,200
that we have contracts that we're reviewing right now.

1561
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,430
That will help us in that third party review of

1562
01:11:16,430 --> 01:11:18,000
what's been been proposed.

1563
01:11:18,970 --> 01:11:20,600
And at least from our experience on the last two

1564
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,200
times, that significant projects.

1565
01:11:23,300 --> 01:11:24,470
Projects were proposed.

1566
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,430
It's really been those consultants that have had to answer

1567
01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:31,270
questions from the public and local boards, even more so

1568
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:33,500
than the, you know, the team that JIRA is.

1569
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,670
Working with. So it's critical that we get really good

1570
01:11:36,670 --> 01:11:39,230
qualified people to help us. And we're, we're in the

1571
01:11:39,230 --> 01:11:41,430
process of finalizing that. So that's good.

1572
01:11:42,170 --> 01:11:44,230
I think it's also important for the public. Cause I

1573
01:11:44,230 --> 01:11:47,070
know how things get churned up when topics come up

1574
01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:49,970
sometimes. Right. So, and bud would know the detail on

1575
01:11:49,970 --> 01:11:50,100
this better.

1576
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:52,670
Than me, but many years ago when there was a.

1577
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,030
Payment problem from the power plants owners.

1578
01:11:55,930 --> 01:11:57,970
That was many owners and many years ago that is

1579
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,000
old news.

1580
01:12:00,470 --> 01:12:02,200
Way in the history books. So, you know,

1581
01:12:02,930 --> 01:12:04,970
no one needs to have concerns about that type of

1582
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,500
situation.

1583
01:12:07,670 --> 01:12:09,930
Former treasurer collector. I can say that .

1584
01:12:12,230 --> 01:12:13,970
I was always very happy to see him. So.

1585
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:18,700
Gentlemen. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. We

1586
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:19,470
appreciate it. Appreciate your time.

1587
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,030
Okay. Old business.

1588
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:29,670
Matters, not reasonably anticipated.

1589
01:12:32,030 --> 01:12:38,470
Anyone don't worry coming out. I a.

1590
01:12:39,070 --> 01:12:42,700
Yep. Soon. I apologize. A couple more minutes. I appreciate

1591
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:43,270
that. You're anxious.

1592
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:48,670
New business request to declare suicide prevention month.

1593
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:53,930
Yes in your packet, there's a request from.

1594
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,200
The steering committee from the Cape and island.

1595
01:12:58,930 --> 01:13:00,230
Suicide prevention coalition to

1596
01:13:01,230 --> 01:13:04,000
designate September suicide prevention month. I believe we've done it

1597
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,300
the last many years. If you approve it in your

1598
01:13:06,970 --> 01:13:09,200
signature folder, we have the proclamation that.

1599
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:17,230
Yeah. Make a motion that we declare suicide prevention month.

1600
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,700
For the month of September 20, 26 as presented.

1601
01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:25,030
Percentage second. Okay. We have a motion for Mr. Hawk

1602
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:25,930
with a second.

1603
01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:28,700
From Mr. Holden, any discussion on the motion?

1604
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,570
Seeing none. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. It is

1605
01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:33,030
unanimous.

1606
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800
Matters, not reasonably anticipated for.

1607
01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:40,770
New business, not that many.

1608
01:13:42,230 --> 01:13:45,100
Okay. That brings us to our second opportunity for public

1609
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:45,500
comment.

1610
01:13:46,970 --> 01:13:47,370
Thank you.

1611
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:50,270
Mr. You'll be next.

1612
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,800
George silver from 30 PM. Andrea drive. Sandridge.

1613
01:13:57,630 --> 01:14:01,930
And I just don't know where I start because of.

1614
01:14:02,930 --> 01:14:04,970
The situation of the

1615
01:14:06,170 --> 01:14:07,930
village green. It is, it is said.

1616
01:14:08,830 --> 01:14:13,030
They comment. I apologize for my English. Okay. It's not

1617
01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:14,030
my first language.

1618
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,100
But anyway, it's just

1619
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,570
he is a company. They know that Thomas.

1620
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,000
First, you know,

1621
01:14:23,870 --> 01:14:25,030
the filling that I have is.

1622
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,970
They really don't want them to be billed.

1623
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:30,070
Then we have our own group.

1624
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,200
With our own lawyer fighting against them.

1625
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,030
So there's a few things against this company.

1626
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:39,100
And what did they do? They go ahead and cut

1627
01:14:39,170 --> 01:14:40,030
all these trees.

1628
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:43,070
Without permit without notification.

1629
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:45,970
With nothing. I, I just don't get it.

1630
01:14:46,970 --> 01:14:48,970
So I'm confused.

1631
01:14:49,930 --> 01:14:51,600
And personally, I, I, I.

1632
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:54,100
I'm I'm I, if the tongue can't do anything.

1633
01:14:55,170 --> 01:14:58,930
Financially and probably would not matter because they had lot

1634
01:14:58,930 --> 01:14:59,070
of money.

1635
01:15:00,230 --> 01:15:02,000
I assume it's just

1636
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:06,470
I don't know what the power that you can have

1637
01:15:06,670 --> 01:15:07,270
to stop.

1638
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:09,930
This company of doing

1639
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:14,230
harm because the environment is, is number one.

1640
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:17,470
The pond is number one. I can see it down

1641
01:15:17,470 --> 01:15:17,970
the road.

1642
01:15:18,970 --> 01:15:20,830
Ears and ears down the road.

1643
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,000
Where the drugs came worse than worse than a Cape.

1644
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:25,070
And we don't have rivers.

1645
01:15:26,170 --> 01:15:29,300
Rivers to go back to Peter ponds and use their

1646
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:29,970
water for.

1647
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:32,470
Emergency to supply the town.

1648
01:15:33,230 --> 01:15:35,230
So we have to stop protecting their water.

1649
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:38,100
Right now and, and, you know, and.

1650
01:15:39,070 --> 01:15:41,430
I'm sure it was pickleball. I have.

1651
01:15:42,170 --> 01:15:44,670
Like records. I played pickleball.

1652
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,070
Ball, but I thought this here was more long, more

1653
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:49,970
important because it was police.

1654
01:15:50,970 --> 01:15:55,600
School system, fire department environment.

1655
01:15:56,630 --> 01:16:00,070
And they were concerning more about pickleball, not against them.

1656
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,300
I play myself.

1657
01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:04,470
But I'm just confused. I hope I'm not losing my

1658
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:05,100
mind. Thank you.

1659
01:16:06,170 --> 01:16:07,830
Thank you. And I, I will say I'm not gonna

1660
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:10,030
go into detail on this, but the town is certainly

1661
01:16:10,030 --> 01:16:12,230
not looking the other way on the village green situation

1662
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:14,200
and it is being pursued.

1663
01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:17,570
In, in the ways that make sense based on what

1664
01:16:18,230 --> 01:16:19,830
the processes are that exist there.

1665
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:23,230
Ms. Dennis. Thank you.

1666
01:16:26,570 --> 01:16:26,930
Okay.

1667
01:16:28,030 --> 01:16:30,100
Christine Dennis S and drive sandwich.

1668
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:34,200
Tonight, I'm here to talk about village green, chapter 40

1669
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:35,270
B and fines.

1670
01:16:36,270 --> 01:16:37,800
Finds as, as you know,

1671
01:16:38,570 --> 01:16:41,600
and are well aware. People are angry, including myself upset

1672
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:44,370
and also feel a sense of frustration with no immediate.

1673
01:16:45,230 --> 01:16:48,300
Actions fines or punishment being brought forth for the acres

1674
01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:49,230
of clearcutting.

1675
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:51,270
This frustration.

1676
01:16:52,270 --> 01:16:55,470
Inspired me to research fines and chapter 40 40 B

1677
01:16:55,570 --> 01:16:58,230
pro projects. And I'd just like to quickly share what

1678
01:16:58,270 --> 01:16:58,700
I found.

1679
01:16:59,700 --> 01:17:03,970
Chapter 40, be explicitly strips, local boards of many enforcement

1680
01:17:03,970 --> 01:17:04,370
mechanisms.

1681
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,070
Mechanisms, our local zoning board of appeals cannot.

1682
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:10,230
Independently levy.

1683
01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:15,830
Levy statutory fines. Instead, the town's building inspector or commissioner.

1684
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:20,030
Must issue a notice of violation, which the town then

1685
01:17:20,030 --> 01:17:23,770
takes to a Massachusetts superior court to enforce fines.

1686
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:26,000
Finds daily penalties or injunctions.

1687
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,930
Injunctions. I was relieved to read that there are towns

1688
01:17:29,930 --> 01:17:31,030
in Massachusetts.

1689
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,970
That pursued fines.

1690
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:39,600
Finds and penalties against non-compliant 40 B housing developers, such

1691
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:39,800
as.

1692
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:43,770
Ours here. For example, the town of Hanover verse 40

1693
01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:46,100
feet, 40 B developer in superior court.

1694
01:17:46,930 --> 01:17:49,930
The developer feel failed to adhere to conditions.

1695
01:17:50,970 --> 01:17:53,100
Outlined in the zoning board of appeals, comprehensive permit.

1696
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,100
The town's zoning enforcement officer.

1697
01:17:57,230 --> 01:17:58,270
Which I learned is

1698
01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:02,200
usually you're building inspector. I thought that was the zoning

1699
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,500
board of appeals, but just the word zoning. Just if

1700
01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:06,800
anyone else is confused.

1701
01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:12,030
The town's zoning enforcement officer issued violations and the town

1702
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,470
filed suit at the Plymouth county superior court seeking an

1703
01:18:15,470 --> 01:18:15,700
in.

1704
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:18,270
Injection injunction and the assessment of fines.

1705
01:18:19,300 --> 01:18:23,030
Fines, the Massachusetts appeals court stated that while chapter 40

1706
01:18:23,070 --> 01:18:25,370
B streamlines the approval process.

1707
01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:29,770
Once a comprehensive permit is issued. The developer is fully

1708
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:31,930
bound by its conditions.

1709
01:18:32,830 --> 01:18:34,370
Conditioned and the town

1710
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:38,670
of Hanover was able to enforce those conditions through superior

1711
01:18:38,930 --> 01:18:42,930
court, court, equity actions and fines. There's one more.

1712
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:47,600
Briefly the town of Salisbury, Trident 40 B litigation in

1713
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:49,030
Essex county superior court.

1714
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,800
Municipality sought to hold a developer accountable.

1715
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,670
For comprehensive permit deviations.

1716
01:18:56,470 --> 01:19:00,370
Town utilized its building inspector to issue explicit cease and

1717
01:19:00,370 --> 01:19:00,930
desist orders.

1718
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,370
When the developer resisted local enforcement, the town escalated the

1719
01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:08,670
matter to the superior court to compel a shutdown of

1720
01:19:08,670 --> 01:19:09,030
construction.

1721
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,600
And request the court impose max maximum.

1722
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,570
Statutory daily fines, which is up to $300 per day.

1723
01:19:17,630 --> 01:19:20,970
For operating indirect violation of their permit.

1724
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,930
These are two examples of case studies similar to our

1725
01:19:24,930 --> 01:19:25,030
current.

1726
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,000
Situation. I am not an attorney, but I felt compelled

1727
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,030
to share this knowledge with the public, with you.

1728
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:33,270
And

1729
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:37,570
we've got to do something before the next violation. We

1730
01:19:37,570 --> 01:19:39,300
need to be prepared and we need to know our

1731
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:39,600
rights.

1732
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:43,070
Rights. I hope this spas for the conversation within this

1733
01:19:43,070 --> 01:19:43,470
board.

1734
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:45,930
And up to our town's legal counsel.

1735
01:19:46,930 --> 01:19:48,470
For advisement. Thank you very much.

1736
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:49,600
Thank you.

1737
01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:55,670
Anyone else, Republic comment this evening.

1738
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:56,970
Department.

1739
01:19:59,270 --> 01:20:01,570
Thank you. I just wanna say, I saw one of

1740
01:20:01,570 --> 01:20:03,430
those clients built those battery plants.

1741
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:09,030
They're beautiful. They're the, the best and what they really

1742
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:09,470
are.

1743
01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:13,300
For in layman's term, it's the grid is losing it.

1744
01:20:13,370 --> 01:20:14,700
I hope it doesn't take from my time.

1745
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:16,970
The the, the grid.

1746
01:20:18,970 --> 01:20:19,030
Is

1747
01:20:20,630 --> 01:20:22,370
when the grid is losing power.

1748
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:25,570
All the time, the, the, the, and that's what these

1749
01:20:25,570 --> 01:20:27,930
batteries do. The grid is powerful.

1750
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:31,030
And it is too much power out there. These batteries.

1751
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:34,470
Take that in store and when the grid needs power,

1752
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,100
just like you said, and it's, I saw one in

1753
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:40,000
Hoboken, New Jersey, and it was in the right on the.

1754
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:41,570
Metal Lance in the middle of.

1755
01:20:42,770 --> 01:20:43,830
Neighborhoods and

1756
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:46,970
couldn't be be alright. That's it.

1757
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,970
It's a privilege to speak to you. Select me, Peter Hartman,

1758
01:20:52,370 --> 01:20:53,230
14 anchor drive.

1759
01:20:54,170 --> 01:20:57,600
Forestdale temple ponds estate. I'm back to talk about the

1760
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:58,930
I illegal HOA.

1761
01:21:00,070 --> 01:21:03,100
A in my neighborhood again, tonight is the HOA block

1762
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,230
party in my neighborhood.

1763
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:08,970
5k eight. They claim they have a permission to block

1764
01:21:08,970 --> 01:21:10,700
streets. I thought they had a permit.

1765
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:13,970
Just like when they had permission for cannon.

1766
01:21:14,930 --> 01:21:17,030
Canon fire on July 4th. You guys could check that out

1767
01:21:17,070 --> 01:21:18,000
if you wanted to.

1768
01:21:18,970 --> 01:21:20,770
Saw a new neighbor. I introduced myself.

1769
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:23,300
He said he might Sue his realtor.

1770
01:21:24,270 --> 01:21:27,470
Because he specifically asked for a neighborhood with no HOA.

1771
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:31,600
HOA. And, but he got, got a letter that says

1772
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,800
the HOA dues were 150.

1773
01:21:34,570 --> 01:21:37,830
Dollars a year. His lawyer said it was no documentation.

1774
01:21:38,770 --> 01:21:41,470
At the registry of deeds or at the town assessor's

1775
01:21:41,470 --> 01:21:41,800
office.

1776
01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:45,230
Also, we had no amendment in his deed. I told

1777
01:21:45,230 --> 01:21:47,770
him how I'd come to the selectman meeting to protest

1778
01:21:47,770 --> 01:21:49,000
this illegal activity.

1779
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,000
He asked me where, where is the common space? I

1780
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:52,970
said there is none.

1781
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,770
All of those repair, go to pay for entrances.

1782
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,000
Entrances that the same landscape of it takes care of

1783
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,200
these entrances on six.

1784
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,600
Private people's property also takes care of.

1785
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:06,830
The offices of the HOA.

1786
01:22:07,870 --> 01:22:11,030
HOA, they don't follow community standards of registry at deeds

1787
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:14,830
or the assessor's office. They get their legality. They say

1788
01:22:14,830 --> 01:22:15,700
from the Commonwealth.

1789
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:20,230
Of Massachusetts secretary of state, which is not community standards

1790
01:22:20,230 --> 01:22:21,300
required by law.

1791
01:22:22,170 --> 01:22:24,800
It's funny, younger homeowners. Think this is legal.

1792
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,270
They said we signed documentation that said, this is an

1793
01:22:28,630 --> 01:22:29,270
HOA neighborhood.

1794
01:22:30,170 --> 01:22:32,930
How confused they are. They signed documentation that we're in

1795
01:22:33,070 --> 01:22:33,300
HOA.

1796
01:22:34,370 --> 01:22:36,600
HOA and I have to pay, but show no documentation.

1797
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,670
Another neighbor in years past said the old, the illegal

1798
01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:44,430
HOA had documents that said they would participate in the

1799
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:45,300
HOA for.

1800
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Another 20 years. Another neighbor said she signed it.

1801
01:22:51,070 --> 01:22:54,670
Another neighbor who's watching this meeting said, how can you

1802
01:22:54,670 --> 01:22:57,430
start these people? It seems that some of these think

1803
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:58,030
they're P.

1804
01:22:58,370 --> 01:23:01,970
Privileged camp is all over the place. Two campus in

1805
01:23:01,970 --> 01:23:02,770
one front yard.

1806
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,000
Public safety vehicles packed.

1807
01:23:06,770 --> 01:23:08,230
Off off and on in front of their house.

1808
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:12,000
I said, I didn't think any of these selectmen are

1809
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,600
being played by these arrogant, elitist neighbors.

1810
01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:17,770
Neighbors. They just need to be educated to what's happening

1811
01:23:17,770 --> 01:23:17,930
here.

1812
01:23:18,970 --> 01:23:21,270
He said, well, this neighborhood looks like a trailer park

1813
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:24,200
with campus parked up in front in their driveways and

1814
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,930
others with more than two unregistered vehicles parked.

1815
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:29,470
In the yard. I said, I believe in government.

1816
01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:34,430
And these selectmen and when they realize what's going on,

1817
01:23:34,430 --> 01:23:36,200
they will do the right thing and give.

1818
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:38,930
Community standards to us all.

1819
01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:42,700
Another neighbor said I should take the letter. They, they

1820
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:44,230
sent to me to the postmaster.

1821
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,270
Because it's illegal to demand fraudulent payments.

1822
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,430
Payments from anyone. And so he said that.

1823
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,200
One of the key elements is to go to the

1824
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:55,830
postmaster.

1825
01:23:56,630 --> 01:23:58,670
Because he would take, take, take care of this.

1826
01:23:59,930 --> 01:24:01,970
A lady walked by my house and asked if I

1827
01:24:01,970 --> 01:24:05,300
was going to this block potty. The illegal HOA was

1828
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:06,830
having, I said, no.

1829
01:24:07,870 --> 01:24:10,200
Because we don't have an HOA. She said, can't we

1830
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,470
just pretend that we are.

1831
01:24:12,270 --> 01:24:14,300
I said, no, I already gave him a thousand dig

1832
01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:17,830
dollars, pretending he is over. How about voluntary HOA?

1833
01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:22,030
A never meant to be compact combative at these meetings,

1834
01:24:21,930 --> 01:24:24,570
but understand you select men are trying to do the

1835
01:24:24,570 --> 01:24:24,970
right thing.

1836
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,070
And that's all I'm looking for is community standards. I

1837
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:31,670
want community standards as these people say,

1838
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:35,800
the Hoi are just a bunch of arrogant criminals. And

1839
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,000
I have a bunch of other follows that just don't

1840
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,000
know what laws are and what community.

1841
01:24:40,830 --> 01:24:43,800
Standards mean, and again, I thank you for listening and

1842
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,430
please help our neighborhood. Thanks.

1843
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:48,700
So I'm gonna say a couple things. Yes. If there's

1844
01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:51,030
unregistered vehicles, you report those to the police department. They

1845
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:53,970
deal with enforcement of unregistered vehicles. Oh. So.

1846
01:24:54,570 --> 01:24:56,700
So you should register that with the police department and

1847
01:24:56,970 --> 01:25:00,030
register those complaints with them. Understood the same thing with

1848
01:25:00,270 --> 01:25:02,300
campers that might be parked in proximity.

1849
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:04,000
To homes that are public safety issues.

1850
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:07,800
Issues, the building department would deal with that.

1851
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:13,500
Yes. Okay. You mentioned that the landscaper does the things

1852
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:16,070
have, have they always used the same landscaper? No, they

1853
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:16,700
haven't. They.

1854
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:18,070
Use that's how I

1855
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:20,570
found out about this.

1856
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,100
They had no common space. And they asked me to

1857
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,300
do landscape in.

1858
01:25:26,170 --> 01:25:28,270
Six years ago. Did you do it? Yes, I did.

1859
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,300
And did you get paid.

1860
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,930
Somewhat. So you got paid by a criminal organization? Yes,

1861
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,800
I did. Before I knew. So did you give the

1862
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,270
money back? Huh? Before I knew what.

1863
01:25:38,770 --> 01:25:40,370
It was no, I can get that's cause I would.

1864
01:25:41,230 --> 01:25:44,030
Suggest that if you accepted this money from a criminal

1865
01:25:44,030 --> 01:25:46,200
organization that actually further.

1866
01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:49,570
Supports that this is a civil issue.

1867
01:25:50,570 --> 01:25:53,930
No. No. So, so, so this is, again, we don't

1868
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:55,670
have any jurisdiction here, as I've told you before.

1869
01:25:56,630 --> 01:25:59,500
But the issue does not really exist at this table.

1870
01:26:00,470 --> 01:26:01,600
So I thank you for your comments.

1871
01:26:02,770 --> 01:26:05,600
Comments. There's nothing we can do about this, but you're

1872
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,100
welcome to keep coming back cuz I know that you

1873
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:08,370
will. Yeah, because.

1874
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,970
What I wanna say to you that I didn't know

1875
01:26:13,070 --> 01:26:15,830
was a criminal activity at that time, because when I

1876
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:17,570
took care of the entrances for them,

1877
01:26:18,370 --> 01:26:21,370
for, they said, would you take, I retired? And they

1878
01:26:21,370 --> 01:26:24,000
said, would you take care of the entrances? I said,

1879
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:26,430
yes, our kids are going to college. So I said,

1880
01:26:26,770 --> 01:26:29,700
yes, I would. They said we can only pay a

1881
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:30,930
$2,600.

1882
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:34,700
I didn't really care. It was April to November. Right?

1883
01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:38,300
I do I did. I went down $2,600 is a

1884
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:40,230
substantial amount of money. No, but I didn't get that.

1885
01:26:40,270 --> 01:26:42,500
I mean, you didn't let me finish. Okay. Alright. So.

1886
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:45,500
What I did is I went down and I started

1887
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:48,570
taking care of the entrances and I never got paid

1888
01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:51,230
to tell you the truth. I maybe got 300 bucks.

1889
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,470
But what happened is I, I went down to take

1890
01:26:55,470 --> 01:26:58,370
care of the, the entrances and the person that ran

1891
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,230
the illegal HOA said that.

1892
01:27:00,630 --> 01:27:01,770
I also had to cut the grass.

1893
01:27:02,970 --> 01:27:04,470
I said, can you show me where.

1894
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:06,700
The common space is

1895
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:09,030
and where the property lines are.

1896
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,770
They said there is no common space.

1897
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:16,000
There is, this is all owned by these private homeowners.

1898
01:27:17,230 --> 01:27:19,000
Homeowners. So I asked them, well, why don't you go

1899
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,770
talk to 'em and have 'em cut the grass.

1900
01:27:22,030 --> 01:27:22,670
She said

1901
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:25,700
maybe you should. I said, I'm not a.

1902
01:27:26,570 --> 01:27:29,230
Know, nothing about this organization. You just asked me to

1903
01:27:29,230 --> 01:27:31,270
do something. I said to be a good neighbor. I

1904
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:32,000
said, I would do it.

1905
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:34,930
So she said, well, I'm going to Australia.

1906
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:40,770
I said, okay. And I never heard from him when

1907
01:27:40,770 --> 01:27:43,030
I came back, all the lawns were cut by their

1908
01:27:43,230 --> 01:27:43,700
landscaper.

1909
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:46,000
She calls me up on the phone. She says,

1910
01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:49,030
do you see, I got them to cut the lawns.

1911
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,030
I said, oh, good for you. Thank you very much.

1912
01:27:52,030 --> 01:27:55,200
And, and she said, so we're cutting your pay from

1913
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,470
$2,600.

1914
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,970
To a thousand dollars from it. I said, no. No,

1915
01:28:00,970 --> 01:28:02,270
thank you. I'm all set.

1916
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:04,570
And I never

1917
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,600
I gave her stuff back and then I started investigating

1918
01:28:09,070 --> 01:28:10,970
HOAs. And I want to ask you.

1919
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:14,300
Mr. Sampson in bud in any.

1920
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:17,770
Do you know who the trustees of this H O

1921
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:17,970
a am.

1922
01:28:18,930 --> 01:28:20,830
M it's a private entity that has nothing to do

1923
01:28:20,830 --> 01:28:23,030
with us. No, but you could call up the county.

1924
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:25,370
Excuse me. You could call up the county. They're all

1925
01:28:25,370 --> 01:28:26,970
listed. You could call up the.

1926
01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:30,070
County and see who the trustees of every HOA.

1927
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:33,370
HOA in this town, but you can't find one from

1928
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,830
biblical ponds estate.

1929
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:37,500
You can't, you know,

1930
01:28:38,570 --> 01:28:41,770
so we don't, again, I'm not sure what you expect

1931
01:28:41,770 --> 01:28:43,930
us to do about this. Oh, I just, I just

1932
01:28:43,930 --> 01:28:46,600
expect you to call up these trustees and say, Hey.

1933
01:28:46,970 --> 01:28:48,070
Knock it off. It's illegal.

1934
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:50,700
Why are you doing this? What authority do we have

1935
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,670
to do that you you're the select none of the

1936
01:28:52,670 --> 01:28:53,970
town you have authority.

1937
01:28:54,970 --> 01:28:56,970
Diary, you definitely give her private people to tell them

1938
01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:57,230
what to do.

1939
01:28:58,070 --> 01:29:01,470
No illegal crime. If someone took a stop sign off,

1940
01:29:01,870 --> 01:29:03,270
out, off a street.

1941
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:05,930
And took the stop sign out and said, we don't

1942
01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:09,000
need that anymore. They would've damaged town property, different issue,

1943
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,970
right? No, they wouldn't. That is a crime. The police

1944
01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:12,000
deal with that. No.

1945
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:15,300
They do. So should I call the police department? You

1946
01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:16,830
said there's a crime. That's what I would do.

1947
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,600
And you, and could I, could I say that you

1948
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,000
guys recommended that I, I would do that. I'm not

1949
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,070
recommending it, but you said there's a crime, so.

1950
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,970
I don't know if there's a crime, huh? Well, I

1951
01:29:27,970 --> 01:29:30,000
don't know of a crime. You could find out. You

1952
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,200
could find out if you wanted. I I'll see you

1953
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:32,930
on the 10th.

1954
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,700
But maybe I look forward to it. Yeah. Thank, thank

1955
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:37,970
you for the discussion. Have a good night. Welcome. Who

1956
01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:39,970
else would like to speak a public comment this evening?

1957
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:45,200
Did you wanna speak again, sir? No. Three minutes was

1958
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:45,430
over.

1959
01:29:46,370 --> 01:29:47,800
well, I, I took up a few of the

1960
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,030
minutes, so we're gonna let it slide.

1961
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:50,070
Anybody else?

1962
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:56,470
Okay. I apologize. You're fine. No worries at all.

1963
01:29:57,230 --> 01:29:59,200
Closing remarks. I'm good.

1964
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:02,930
Closing remarks.

1965
01:30:04,670 --> 01:30:07,000
Please continue to pray for peace.

1966
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:11,570
For restraint among leaders for protection of innocent life.

1967
01:30:12,630 --> 01:30:14,100
And for justice guided by wisdom.

1968
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,500
Thank you, Mr. Holden, one thing I do want to

1969
01:30:18,500 --> 01:30:20,370
mention, and, and I intended to bring it up before

1970
01:30:20,370 --> 01:30:22,000
is I think that during the off season,

1971
01:30:23,170 --> 01:30:24,230
we should talk about

1972
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:29,100
staffing of parking lots and the restrooms for the beaches.

1973
01:30:30,170 --> 01:30:31,830
And what our opportunities are to.

1974
01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:33,700
Extend those services.

1975
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:38,200
Through both sides of the peak season. I think that

1976
01:30:38,830 --> 01:30:40,270
there's a revenue opportunity there.

1977
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:43,430
But there's also just a piece there about.

1978
01:30:44,270 --> 01:30:48,200
What services we're providing to residents and visitors. And I

1979
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,930
know we can't solve it this year. I know that

1980
01:30:51,470 --> 01:30:52,270
a lot of our summer.

1981
01:30:52,630 --> 01:30:55,070
Staff our college students that need to go back to

1982
01:30:55,370 --> 01:30:56,270
where they're supposed to be.

1983
01:30:57,030 --> 01:31:00,470
But, you know, perhaps we can look at a, you

1984
01:31:00,470 --> 01:31:01,770
know, lighter staffing model.

1985
01:31:02,570 --> 01:31:04,270
On the shoulder season for, for next year.

1986
01:31:05,300 --> 01:31:07,430
So that we can improve the level of service there.

1987
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:08,930
Cause I, I think it's a real concern.

1988
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:12,600
Thank you. That's a good idea.

1989
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,500
Okay. Anybody else? Good. All right. So our next meeting

1990
01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:21,200
will be September 10th, 6:00 PM. Here at the Sandhill community.

1991
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,130
Center. Thank you so much. Have a good night.