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Good evening. This is the sandwich select board meeting for

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September 10th, 2026.

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Tonight's meeting is being recorded and broadcast live by standard

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community television. We'll open with the pledge of alleging.

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Pledge allegiance to the flag.

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Of the United States America. And she was a Republic.

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From which to stands one nation.

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Under God, indivisible was Liberty and justice for all. And

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while we're standing, if I may.

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May we remember

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Margaret arsenal.

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Sandwich public schools.

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Educational support professional.

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Who passed on September 2nd.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Holden.

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This brings us to our first opportunity for public comment.

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Mr. Hartman.

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Please, please write your name.

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And address on the slip list there.

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Hello. I'm here again.

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About been here every meeting since July, but.

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The illegal HOA.

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A and I took, I took your advice.

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And

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I went up and saw the police department.

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I met an young officer.

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In the lobby two weeks.

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Be two weeks from Saturday.

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And I even very busy.

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I said, would you want to go over the material

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I have. And he said,

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oh, you you'd have to make a copy and I'll

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get back to you.

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So I ran out and made copies and I got

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back to 'em when I gave it to him.

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Crickets from there, but I, I, I didn't hear anything,

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but.

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In after our meeting.

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In the springtime

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I get a call from the police department.

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That said I was sending lewd emails. I said, where's

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your jurisdiction?

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From the assessors or from the.

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Registry DH, but

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I don't know, it just seemed, it just seemed.

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I don't know, it seemed different. I, I would never

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go to the police department.

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And say anything. They want to keep junks in the,

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in my neighborhood, unregistered vehicles, couple trailers in the yard.

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Open top dumpsters not covered at night.

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All summer along.

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That's fine, but

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why I came in here is because.

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Do you know what the mission statement for the town

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is?

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We ever read it.

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I think if you read it, it says.

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You provide honesty and integrity.

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And I, I don't think you said, oh, it's we

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don't have jurisdiction is honesty.

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And integrity. You could have made two phone calls.

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And sent out one letter.

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In this whole thing would be over. We'll be done.

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But instead, I'm gonna go to court. I've talked to

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lawyers.

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Is, and I'm gonna end this.

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And I just wanted to come up here and tell,

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tell you that because.

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I didn't like when you called me a criminal and

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you said, oh, you're a criminal. You never called you

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a criminal. Yes, you did. You go back in the

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meeting envelope, but I, I did.

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Not call you a criminal, you could, you know, and.

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Said Snoop. I never been arrested.

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I pay my taxes.

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Taxes, but when you see something that's so wrong.

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And then you come here and if you read the

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mission statement,

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it says, oh, that's what you should do.

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I went down. I went through a lot of stuff

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and you're right.

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I need a lawyer.

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And, and I, and I'll go to court.

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And I know I'll win because they never had one,

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but you knew that.

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You, I spoke to you.

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I spoke to Shane. You, you guys knew that and

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it would've been simple. I.

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I don't, it only tweaks it ratches up the tension

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in my neighborhood. I don't need it. I don't want

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it.

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You know, it's crazy. So that's it. I guess I'm

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done. I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to.

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About writing a letter or calling somebody, but if there

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was something that we could have done, they absolutely, we

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would've done it. And, and we've been very clear with.

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You about that. And we got, Hey, town council to

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render an opinion. We provided that to you. There was

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something we could have done to help you with the

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situation we would.

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Would've done it. All you gotta do is make two

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phone calls. That's all you had to do. If you

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wanted to help me out.

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You gave me something from 2003, 2004.

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It's some guy did.

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Did you called me two years ago and told me.

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Did they have? No, they have.

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No, nothing, no documentation from the registry. Indeed. You called

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me and said, I did call you. I told you

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to talk to the registry of deeds. I told you,

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you needed an attorney.

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So that's it. Thank you. Sounds like you're on the

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right path. Thank you so much.

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Would anybody else like to speak at public forum this

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evening?

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Seeing none.

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Review and approval of minutes from August 20th.

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Make a motion. We approve the minutes of August 20th as

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presented.

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Second, the motion for Mr. Hawk and a second for

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Mr. Holden, is there any discussion on the minutes from

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August 20th?

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Seeing none, all those in favor.

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Aye. Any abstentions or opposed Mr. Ellis opposed? Everyone else

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is in favor.

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Abstained. I'm sorry.

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Town manager report a couple of quick updates. Our next

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meeting is in two weeks.

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On September 24th and this.

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Still at this location.

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Next Wednesday, which is the 16th of September. The recreation department is

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holding an open form about pickleball.

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And that's at the center for active living from five

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to 7:00 PM.

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If anyone from the public is interested.

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And then last thing I just wanted to pass along,

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believe it or not like our last meeting we did.

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Miss a week because of the holiday.

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JIRA was in, at our last meeting and they sent

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us an email earlier this week.

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If you recall, they highlighted the state, RFP was due.

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Today, the state ended up extending that by a month.

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So remember the exact date, but they sent us an

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email saying just so you know, they're gonna keep.

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Refining some of their

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submissions, but they have another month to get that in.

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Okay. That was it. Thank you.

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Any questions for bud.

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Correspondence statements and announcements.

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Mr chairman, Mr. You quick things, if you don't mind,

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school committee meant last night.

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The school department has experienced positive SP start to the

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26th, 27th school year.

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This, despite the fact unofficial enrollment is slightly down.

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From 25 to 26, that doesn't become official until October.

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The committee voted to

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retain a management expert.

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Activity task Inc. To maintain the established specifications.

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Developed for the tennis court project.

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The committee also voted to adopt.

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Or district action plans for 26, 27.

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As presented first.

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School safety committee meeting will be.

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Next Thursday. And then

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looking forward to another item. If I may.

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There is a community invitation.

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From the sandwich fire department.

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To the nine 11 Memorial ceremony.

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Ceremony for the town of sandwich to be conducted tomorrow.

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Friday, beginning at 9:00 AM.

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At the sandwich, fire headquarters, Memorial garden.

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Behind station three of katuit road.

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The service will be in conjunction.

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With American Legion Clark had approached.

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180 8 begin with an opening prayer.

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Include a 21 gun salute.

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And conclude with remarks from chief Burke.

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September 11th, 2001 to September 11th, 2026.

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25 years. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Mr. Holden, and I, I appreciate you raising.

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The Memorial service tomorrow. And.

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I think it's also important for folks to know that

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we've combined what was used to be two events into

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one. So the, the Legion.

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Is not holding a separate event downtown as they have

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in the past. You're bringing those two events together.

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Thanks to the, the fire department, as well as the

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legions, willingness to collaborate.

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Anybody else?

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And I would also just echo what bud said about

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the upcoming recreation meeting next week. I, I won't be

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able to attend that meeting, but that will be a

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very good.

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Opportunity to openly discuss the pickleball.

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Scheduling concerns.

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Concerns. Okay. We have a public hearing for an on-premises

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all alcohol.

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Beverage liquor license change of class from seasonal to annual.

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For Los Scotto, LLC, doing business as LA paella eight

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Jarvis street.

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Lauren Matsui as manager.

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Make a motion. Should we open the public hearing?

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So moved.

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Moved motion for Mr. Hawk second for Mr. Holden, is

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there any discussion?

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All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Okay. We are in

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the public hearing. If you wanna just come forward for.

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This is gonna be a.

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Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Oh,

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okay.

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Okay. So I think every, everybody.

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Economic seat, if you want, if you're welcome to.

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So, so really this is about changing from a seasonal

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to annual liquor license to a year round liquor license.

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I think we issued this license in spring of last

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year. Yeah, we were granted in spring of this year,

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we were granted the annual license.

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But then it, we found out we were a short

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one license, so we were waiting for the other one

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to yep. To pop back up. So, yep. So, so

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this is about fixing that issue.

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Does anybody have any questions?

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Questions comments concerns. How are things going?

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Really well, I mean, it's, it's been nonstop since Memorial

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day. so.

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But the community has been so welcoming and everybody has

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just been so kind like we couldn't be busier with

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nicer people. So thanks. Terrific. Not a.

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Complaint. And can you opened at the right time?

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Yeah, definitely. And I still feel like it was mostly

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people from here. I don't really think we had as

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many tours as everybody thought, which I really liked.

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Liked to meet everyone.

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Okay. Awesome. And

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all of that internal. Yep. Everything are in order. Yep.

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Everything's in order. And the state has said that they

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will work.

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With us when we notify them after the board votes

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to try to expedite things in light of the.

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Mix up that happened previously. So.

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You excellent. Would anyone from the public like to comment

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on this matter?

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Seeing none.

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Motion. We close the public hearing.

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Second motion for Mr. Hawk to second for Mr. Holden.

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I need discussion all those in favor.

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Aye. It's unanimous. I'd like to make a motion that

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we proceed forward with the.

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Conversion of the

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licensed to us around year-round license for Los LLC, doing

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business as lots paella at eight German street as presented.

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Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Is

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there any discussion?

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All those in favor. Aye. It's unanimous. Thank you. Thank

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you. Best wishes for continued success. Apologies for the yes.

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Oh, it's.

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It's okay. Challenges come visit us. have a good

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night.

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Okay. Our next item, we have human resources director Marie Buckner

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here this evening regarding the recommended update to the personal

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policy.

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Policies and procedures. And I don't, but if you, I

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don't know if you wanna tee this up or you

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wanna just, yeah. And I know tear away the assistant

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director is here as well. So I think they're both

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gonna come up.

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And just Reese gonna go through an overview. I guess

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the two things that I would add.

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I think it's really important when you look at the

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cover sheet on the.

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Personnel policies and procedures. By my quick count, this will

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be the 13th update that we did from the original

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ones. And that's.

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That's telling a professional HR department that these.

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Policies and the state and federal laws that we have

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to go by, have to be updated all the time.

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And it's not an exaggeration to say that Marie and

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Tara have been working on these for over a year.

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Town council has been scrutinizing and very closely. There's been

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a lot of separate.

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Zoom meetings a lot of back and forth. And the

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last thing I would say every time we think we're

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done.

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You know, oh, maybe we should have an AI policy

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or, oh, we should really go with K P's new

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social media policy.

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So we, a lot of the stuff that Marie will

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present.

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Is the latest and greatest from our attorneys. So it'sgood.

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Excellent. Good evening, everyone.

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Thank you for having us here. So.

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What I thought I would do is, is just to

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give a little bit of a little bit of a

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background about what these policies are and, and.

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These, these policies and procedures have been in place for.

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For for several years, as you can tell by the

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number of edits that had, and, and really their.

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There are

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so many union employees and we have so many non-union

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employees. So these are, this is the document that really

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covers.

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Covers the parameters of E non-union employees.

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Employees by and large those with collective bargaining agreements, those

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union employees are also covered by these policies as well.

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Where their contracts are silent.

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And so that those areas include the anti-harassment policy.

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The all of the other, the policies that are listed

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in the back, he won't find those in general.

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In a collective bargaining agreement. So that's where, where it

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says all employees. That's what we're talking about. It's like

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all employees are covered where we all.

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Are are governed by an anti-harassment and anti-discrimination policy.

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We're all covered by the I T R policy, the

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internet, the information technology resources policy.

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We're all. So those that's what those policies are designed

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to do. And that's why there's so many of them.

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And as you can tell, we're, we're kind of growing.

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As well. And so our process to review them.

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Involves just a lot of conversation with a course council

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because we wanna make sure that the policies are up

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to date. And what's nice about it is.

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That you won't see a lot of changes proposed by

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council.

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And many of those policies that we, that we have,

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and partly that's because.

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We, we, we updated them in 2022. I'd like to

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do it a little bit more often than that, but

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sometimes we just, we didn't have the need to do

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that. And if.

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You also notice that the policies themselves.

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Were we really weren't.

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Weren't thinking of

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expanding any of the so-called benefits that non-union employees have.

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That really wasn't the purpose. The purpose was to add

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in some.

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Policies that counsel felt strongly over several months of discussion

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about that. We should just add them. It didn't mean

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that we weren't subject to those policy.

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Policies. It just means that it's very specific here. I'll

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never forget one time. When, when we were in a

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particular hearing for an unemployment, the, the gentleman from.

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Unemployment said, do you have a written policy that prohibits

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stealing?

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We do now.

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We didn't then we still want, but it's one of

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those things where it's just like, you think it's obvious

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and it's really not.

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So, so there were a couple of policies that we

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added.

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That we feel are important to, to really spell out

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and that, and those involve the.

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The, the conflict of interest policy and that has existed

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forever, but it's just something that we were more specifically

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wanted to define. You can go and.

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Find that in the law, you can find it in

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a policy that's nine pages long, but here it's a

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little bit more concise and it's, it's readily available. It's

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in the policies.

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And it's in the red book. .

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And every employee knows what the red book is. And

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so every employee gets one of these books.

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And in it is the personnel policies and procedures. It

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is , there's some knowing. Yes. And, and we unle

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and we go over these policies.

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With every employee. And, and we also just address the,

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the, the, the ultimate copy of their own collective bargaining

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agreement, which we also go over with them.

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So that the parameters around their employment are as clear

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as possible upon their start. And so that's kind of

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that the, the background and, and.

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Just going over what we added.

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We added a policy.

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On a drug-free workplace. Now, again, that's been a policy,

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that's been an existence in, in the fact that that's

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what.

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We have always followed, but just saying it more specifically.

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And also having a separate policy that we're able to

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provide.

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To any organization that when we get federal funds, even

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$1 of them, it's helpful to have that policy to

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be able to send out and that, and these.

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Policies. We, we share them when.

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With the school, if they are silent on any policy.

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So they really are meant to be a policy.

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That we can, we can we share regularly and adopt

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when, when you adopt them, their they're good for any

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employee within the town.

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And so that we, so we added that one and,

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and you can see that in the, in the document.

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And in the, I know the voluminous documents that you

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have. So there's 98 POL pages of policies that, that

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were sent to you. I'm sure you.

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Had some fun reading.

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So with that said, I, we worked as a team,

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you know, I mean, these are all, I just bought

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them for show and tell.

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And that it's just, it's one of those things where

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these are, these are terrorist notes in the, in the

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colorful where it's just like, what is that? Well, how

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is that? You know, we just try to.

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Make them so that they're as good as they possibly

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can be. And there's a team of us that work

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on it and includes the team that I'm sitting across

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from.

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And Tara and several department heads that, that partake in

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the process.

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And so without, I don't know.

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If there's anything in particular that you'd like me to,

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to review with you. I'm, I'm really not expecting you

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just got these a few days ago.

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So, so the idea of you, you know, taking a,

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a photo on them, I, I leave that up to

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you in your timeframes. I'm happy to come back and

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answer questions that you may.

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Have of the, the volumes of information the AI generated.

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Information that Mr. Samson did is fantastic. And that is,

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is something that we did look over and that's a

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nice weight of looking at the.

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Policies as well to see what's really proposed and what's

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changed.

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So that's a nice document. Sadly check, probably three minutes

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of my time. so don't give me too much

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credit, but thank you. It's.

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It's it's very easy to kind of just translate that

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way really to your point. You know, if it's not

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written down.

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When it comes to, to policies and procedures, if it's

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not written down, it just doesn't count. Right? There's, there's

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no accountability around anything that's not written down. And none

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of these things are ever done.

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And it applies across all sorts of business policies. And

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I talk to people about this pretty often, so I,

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I understand it will, but.

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The ongoing review is critical. It is, it it's really

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important. And, and I think that, and, and to, to

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your point, it's, it's one of those that you think

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you got it.

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Right in there. It's like something else that comes up.

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So it's not to say that we won't be back

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for something else that that comes out. For example, the

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AI policy, I will tell you.

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That that is not my forte. Anyone can attest to

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that, but.

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But we did rely on council who said that this

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was the most up-to-date way to.

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To form the policy and, and, and, and have the

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policy in place. And it's in place for several times

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that KP law is.

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That the, the

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representative of, so we did.

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Take that, that policy and, and, and here it is

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before you, and I think it's just something new for,

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for all of us to, to have to, you know,

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consider and absorb in our different professions and how.

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Help me do our work. So.

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There's I'm happy to answer questions and I can.

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Can cover.

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Other things that you want.

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Where we get, we get nine postings right now. So

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we're busy, small Meg. We've got we. We just.

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This there's a, on the town side. There's.

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205 full-time.

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Employees, we got 38 part-time.

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This summer, we had 138 seasonal employees and every one

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of them.

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Comes through this office and, and other town departments that,

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that you can appreciate that every single one of 'em,

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whether they're here for a day or.

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30 something years. They're, it's the same process that we

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go through and that's a large part.

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All the efforts of

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person sitting to my right.

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It's tear away. okay. Questions between, because you brought

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it up.

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With the hiring of the open positions. What do you,

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I think I asked you this probably three years ago,

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but what do you see as the biggest challenge?

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With

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new employees or gaining new employees and challenges, you know,

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in the marketplace that make the town as attractive as

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Bob, as.

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Possible. What do you see as the challenge for us?

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We have, I think because of our geographic location.

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We have fewer challenges than other.

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Members of our community in on Cape Cod. So I,

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I don't know that that is.

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That is so much of it, but a challenge. I

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think there's some positions that require an incredible amount of

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expertise. You know, you were looking.

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For a local inspector and that local inspector, can't just

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be anybody coming off the street. They have to have

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had their, their, the cer certain certifications to.

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Be ordered in order to be able to qualify, to

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even sit for the exam that they have to have

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within 18 months of hire. So those kinds of things

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are, those are positions are just.

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Physicians are just more challenging because you have to have

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a real, certain set of.

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Of of abilities.

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And, and experience in the get-go. So that, that has

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been, that has been and been challenging. And I think

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that sometimes getting.

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Individuals to get their commercial driver's licenses. That that is

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another.

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Avenue that we have a very successful in program.

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In the town where we.

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Train our new employees coming in.

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We have certified trainers amongst the laborers within the department.

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And they are, they are trained to.

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Train the employees, and that has been very successful. And

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that has been something that.

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That through the years, we have not had the Exodus

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that some.

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Other towns have had with that regard.

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First for whatever reason they're staying. I think that in

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October we'll have a full compliment of, of laborers and

519
00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:15,930
I guess another.

520
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:17,700
Thing that I'd like to tout is the fact that.

521
00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:22,270
In our workers' comp like there are, there are zero.

522
00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:24,800
Town employees.

523
00:24:26,030 --> 00:24:27,430
Employees in

524
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,830
out injured. There are a couple of long-term and the

525
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:34,930
police department that are just, that are long-term that, that

526
00:24:34,930 --> 00:24:36,230
is going suffering.

527
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:39,200
Serious injury in the line of work and in one

528
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,070
in the school. But on the town side, there are

529
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:42,470
zero.

530
00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:46,300
Individuals out with any work-related injuries.

531
00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:48,070
And so that's, that's just.

532
00:24:49,630 --> 00:24:52,370
It's not something that that's, that's people being safe in

533
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:52,930
the workplace.

534
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:55,370
And that doesn't happen by accident.

535
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:57,470
If you don't mind, if I could just add a

536
00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:58,100
couple things like.

537
00:24:59,170 --> 00:25:02,500
I would say from our four collective chairs, cuz we

538
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,300
see it a lot. Like.

539
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:08,930
We're still getting qualified applications for department head positions, but

540
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:10,770
where we used to get 40 or 50.

541
00:25:11,770 --> 00:25:12,770
We might get 10.

542
00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:15,100
And things are getting, you know,

543
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:19,070
tighter in terms of competing with other towns in terms

544
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,100
of salary rates, benefits, health, insurance, et cetera.

545
00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:27,030
And although many times we're impacted by the cost of

546
00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:29,570
those things. Like we need to stay competitive and get

547
00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:31,200
the best people because it really pay.

548
00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:33,470
Pays off in the long run. So we've been.

549
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:36,100
Very fortunate, I would say, but.

550
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:38,830
Certainly, if you look at what we used to receive

551
00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:42,030
for resumes years ago, compared to today, it's a lot

552
00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:42,200
less.

553
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,270
I would also say that, you know, for certain positions,

554
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:48,230
I would also say, cuz the board's familiar cuz you're,

555
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:50,600
you've all been around a long time that the, you

556
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,000
know, for.

557
00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:54,770
Example in, in the administrative professional union, if someone retires

558
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:57,670
and it's a higher position that gets advertised first within.

559
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,000
The unit, someone may go for that. Well, then that

560
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,070
creates the ripple effect and now you have to advertise

561
00:26:03,070 --> 00:26:05,770
their position and if that's higher and someone goes for

562
00:26:05,770 --> 00:26:06,270
it and that opens.

563
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,930
Opens up that position. So a lot of times it's,

564
00:26:09,070 --> 00:26:11,300
you know, follow the dominoes as they fall and then

565
00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:13,470
try to figure out how to, how to do it

566
00:26:13,470 --> 00:26:14,600
the best way. And so.

567
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:19,000
As Marie said she and Tara, like every single resume

568
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,200
that comes in, everyone gets responded to everyone, gets treated

569
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,770
professionally.

570
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,270
At one point or another, you've all sat in on

571
00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:26,970
interviews and you know what they do.

572
00:26:28,030 --> 00:26:30,030
And then I would just say like,

573
00:26:31,370 --> 00:26:33,070
I think the hardest thing for us is that.

574
00:26:34,030 --> 00:26:35,270
We're the employer by law.

575
00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:37,970
We issue payroll in-house.

576
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,100
And yet, you know, only a quarter of the employees

577
00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:43,470
are under our control.

578
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,500
So what's really hard is with the school department, you

579
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:50,570
know, they have 5, 6, 700 people on their payroll every week.

580
00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:52,100
And some of those are, you know,

581
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:54,000
sup substitutes.

582
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,030
Substitutes others are longtime employees, you know, and it requires

583
00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:00,770
a lot of work from our department, especially the treasure

584
00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:01,930
collector's office. And.

585
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,200
And I know HR gets contacted a lot by schools

586
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,800
to help try to address some of the more complex

587
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,770
things because of their expertise. So.

588
00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:13,970
I would say, you know, it's not bashing anyone, but

589
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:16,600
that is re that makes it really difficult on our

590
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,570
side. And I think I've said it to you guys

591
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,030
for.

592
00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:22,370
Five plus years, payroll is our weakest internal procedure and

593
00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:22,970
we've tried.

594
00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:25,300
10 different ways to skin the cat. And I still

595
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,000
don't feel like we've accomplished it yet.

596
00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:29,470
And a lot of that is software related and waiting

597
00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:30,300
for an upgrade to come.

598
00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:32,700
But it's still

599
00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:35,970
if I had to pick our weakest internal thing, it

600
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:36,430
would be that.

601
00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:40,030
Yeah. For most of it's not ours.

602
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:41,930
Ours. I'll be honest. Most of the payroll is not

603
00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:44,430
ours and, and I wanna stress. We get the payroll

604
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,500
out every other week.

605
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Many days in advance done perfectly. So it's not issuing

606
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,470
the payroll. It's all the other things that go with

607
00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:53,930
it. Yeah. I was gonna say most of I'd say

608
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:54,370
at least 90.

609
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,030
95% of the treasurer collector.

610
00:27:58,930 --> 00:28:01,570
Related activities to employment come from the schools.

611
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:02,630
By far.

612
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:06,930
And I know that the, the amount of work that

613
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:09,370
goes into these blinders and it's one of those things

614
00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:11,830
you hope to never have to use a binder. Everybody

615
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:12,930
gets the binder, but.

616
00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:16,500
It's you, it seems like it's the 99% are finest

617
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,300
to 1% where you have to pull a binder out,

618
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:18,930
you know, and it.

619
00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:23,030
But that work that you guys do is which people

620
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:25,370
don't, he's one of the things that's behind the curtain

621
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:25,970
kind of thing.

622
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,670
They that they don't see as the amount of work

623
00:28:28,670 --> 00:28:31,700
that goes into the, you know, the policies and procedures.

624
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,270
Procedures, which you not only protect the employee, but you

625
00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:37,470
know, importantly too, is it protects the town.

626
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,030
Yeah, because when these things happen, it, it gets ugly

627
00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:43,100
quick as, as you guys know, and that.

628
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,000
You know, and a lot of times it's not a

629
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:47,830
fun job because of the stuff that you guys have

630
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:50,830
to deal with. But, but I appreciate the, the amount

631
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:52,030
of effort that went into putting this.

632
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:54,700
Together cuz it is, it is a substantial amount of

633
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,430
work to maintain that on a, you know, daily basis.

634
00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:00,030
So thank the both of you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

635
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:00,370
Spend.

636
00:29:00,870 --> 00:29:02,770
One just quick follow up. I don't know if you

637
00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:04,800
heard what Marie said about the department of public works,

638
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,930
being fully staffed with laborers. And I think it's the

639
00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:08,930
first time. I don't, at least in eight years.

640
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:10,570
Probably longer than that.

641
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:13,000
And that's with the new personnel that we've added. So

642
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,970
that is a huge accomplishment for that department.

643
00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:17,970
And that will, you know, manifest real results for the

644
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:18,000
town.

645
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:21,970
The same issues that we have with hiring, I think

646
00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:25,000
are more, even more acute in public safety and Marine

647
00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:26,300
tar. Talk to it more.

648
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,030
Specifically than I can, but I know that they're.

649
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,300
Looking at creative ways to bring additional staff on the

650
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,000
fire. Department's been creative about that. The police department's looking

651
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,370
at ways to recruit and make the work that they

652
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:38,970
do more at.

653
00:29:39,170 --> 00:29:42,570
Attractive to people and looking at doing some communications around

654
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:45,500
the changes and hiring for public safety that were no

655
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:46,370
longer a civil service.

656
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,970
Community that we would accept applications from folks from all

657
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:52,370
fields of work, with different backgrounds.

658
00:29:53,270 --> 00:29:54,930
So we'll be looking at that in the next.

659
00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:58,770
Coming months as well, but those are, are even, I

660
00:29:58,770 --> 00:29:59,930
think, more difficult to.

661
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:01,430
Recruit. And so

662
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,930
certainly could made easier be by being able to open

663
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:07,200
up.

664
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:10,430
The police, for example.

665
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,930
To, to individuals that

666
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:16,670
are not current police officers somewhere else or in the

667
00:30:16,670 --> 00:30:17,600
civil service system.

668
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,370
So that's been, that's been very helpful. Yeah. Mm-hmm

669
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:25,430
and it's, but there's there's challenges and.

670
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:28,070
As both

671
00:30:29,070 --> 00:30:33,430
indicated where we don't necessarily have, have the volume of

672
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:35,970
applications, but oh, you need is one really good. One

673
00:30:36,370 --> 00:30:36,770
or two.

674
00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:39,830
So, you know, part quantity doesn't necessarily.

675
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000
Equate to quality and, and just we're, we're always looking

676
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,230
for that quality. So, so that's the piece that we're

677
00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:48,600
when, and we.

678
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:51,070
Seem to find a lot of very, very good high

679
00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:51,470
quality.

680
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,930
Individuals. That's an interesting shift though, because.

681
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,670
Historically the benefits of municipal jobs have been very attractive

682
00:30:59,830 --> 00:31:00,100
to people.

683
00:31:01,070 --> 00:31:03,600
So, you know, and I've seen this actually in other

684
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,300
municipalities as well is just interesting. The, the.

685
00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:08,670
I don't know if it's a generational shift or what

686
00:31:08,670 --> 00:31:09,200
it is, but.

687
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:14,430
It is what it's it's I absolutely isn't. And, and

688
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:17,670
to find out somebody's motivation. I think that we're we're.

689
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,500
With, with our communications coordinator, Caitlin Fogerty, she's been able

690
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:23,830
to.

691
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,370
Kind of attract a different kind of audience for positions.

692
00:31:28,570 --> 00:31:30,970
And so she's been great with some social media things

693
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:33,200
that, that we didn't do before. That that is, that

694
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,470
is you.

695
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:36,000
Know, and just advertising in a different way. So we

696
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,030
were able to fill jobs.

697
00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:39,930
In for a seasonal that we hadn't in the past.

698
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:43,000
And I think that's in large part to, to her

699
00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:45,300
efforts. And, and so, you know, and again, just.

700
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:49,070
The HR department, we we're, it's, it's so much of

701
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:51,770
a collaboration and there's no way that we can do.

702
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,270
Any work without the co cooperation of so many different

703
00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:58,970
departments, including as by mentioned treasure collector and the, and

704
00:31:58,970 --> 00:32:00,770
the accounting office in, in, on daily.

705
00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:03,670
Basis and just all the other departments that we get

706
00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:06,930
so much cooperation from, they, they attend our safety committee

707
00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:08,970
meetings. Like we get a room full of.

708
00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:10,930
Of of 20 departments.

709
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:15,470
Represented at a safety committee meeting and, and through terrace

710
00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:17,430
efforts, we, we get recognized for that.

711
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:22,200
Through our reimbursements that we get from our insurance carrier,

712
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:25,370
who recognizes the type of work that gets done from

713
00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:26,200
all of those depart.

714
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Departments. And so it's really everybody working together, cuz it

715
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,430
is, I don't, I think Maya, her insurance provider has

716
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,100
a, has this little slogan that it's like.

717
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,370
Ex safety doesn't happen by accident. And so in any

718
00:32:39,370 --> 00:32:42,570
case, that's just another normal what we do and.

719
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:45,700
It's really, it's nice to have the cooperation of all

720
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,430
the departments and we do and police and fire and.

721
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:52,030
All the pigments library. Mm-hmm they all show up.

722
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:56,370
And now take it seriously. So that's, this is like,

723
00:32:57,930 --> 00:32:59,600
HR doesn't come in that much. So I know we're

724
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,370
talking about a lot of things and just the policies,

725
00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,470
but I mean, I think this is incredibly important to

726
00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:05,370
say, and I sure hope I don't jinx it.

727
00:33:06,030 --> 00:33:09,000
But it's a Testament to their knowledge and expertise in

728
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,770
over three decades, we've never had a major personnel decision

729
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:14,030
overturned by an arbitrator, a.

730
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:15,430
Mediator or a judge ever.

731
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:17,930
Like there's been small things that, you know,

732
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,830
we may have lost a grievance, but we literally haven't

733
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:24,600
had anything go to a grievance except one department in

734
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,770
over 20 years. I mean,

735
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,970
I think the way they treat our employees.

736
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,800
Employees is appreciated, appreciated, and it, it bears fruit.

737
00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:37,300
So it's good.

738
00:33:39,070 --> 00:33:41,930
To piggyback off what Shane was saying with, you know,

739
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:45,270
these policies that, which I know very well , but

740
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:45,600
you know,

741
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,930
not only, it's very important that they protect staff in

742
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:51,000
the town, but you also have to walk that tightrope

743
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,200
of making sure that doesn't stifle work or creativity. And

744
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:54,500
I think.

745
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,970
That's also another piece of this, cuz it's very easy

746
00:33:56,970 --> 00:33:59,270
to write a policy that basically says you cannot do

747
00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:02,000
this whatsoever. Right. And you know, have it.

748
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,270
Shut down, you know, potential future.

749
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:08,100
Creative work of our, you know, and I'm sure the

750
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:08,570
AI.

751
00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:11,770
You know that policy, I'm sure you had to walk

752
00:34:11,770 --> 00:34:14,370
that tightrope quite a bit. So, you know, it really

753
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:16,030
shows that you've gone and.

754
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:19,030
Researched it and, you know, looked at it and through

755
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,670
multiple ways. So I do appreciate that and I always

756
00:34:21,670 --> 00:34:23,670
appreciate it when I was going through the policies that

757
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:23,930
it was.

758
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:27,100
Very protective, but also not too.

759
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:30,970
Not too stifling. Thank you.

760
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:34,000
Having zero.

761
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Workers' comp claims. Just incredible.

762
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:41,230
For people at home. That's how our rates are set.

763
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:44,600
And when people go out on claims.

764
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:49,100
The town's required to hold reserves against whatever that.

765
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:53,030
However they're wounded and senses from the job.

766
00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:55,570
So those all add up.

767
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,000
And so it's not just the idea that we're.

768
00:34:59,970 --> 00:35:02,000
Happy that no, one's her, but it's just.

769
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,670
Financial dividends.

770
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:09,200
Dividends immeasurable and add onto that a little bit is,

771
00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:12,300
is that every single person knows that if they are

772
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:12,930
injured at.

773
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:15,930
Work, how to go about filing the claim. So it's

774
00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:18,670
not like people are walking around limping and not reporting

775
00:35:18,670 --> 00:35:21,270
something, you know, they're this, you know, we're not.

776
00:35:21,630 --> 00:35:24,030
Doing that either. You know? So it's very clear that,

777
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
that, you know, if you, if you get bit by

778
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,000
tick, you know, and you're out and above and you're

779
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,700
doing tree work.

780
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,830
You need to let us know. And, and, and those

781
00:35:32,830 --> 00:35:34,800
are the kind of things that we also kind of,

782
00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:37,970
we stress as well, but we've fed a very.

783
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:44,930
Yeah. Anyway.

784
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:47,600
Okay.

785
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:50,430
So, so what folks monitor here?

786
00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:53,030
Do you want to take these in and read them?

787
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:53,230
And.

788
00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:55,830
Act later or do you laugh now?

789
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:01,270
I read through it. Okay.

790
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:08,000
You do it now? I'm Charlie. I'm a Ford. I

791
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,200
have a general question number. If you don't mind at.

792
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,570
Least, I think it's an old question because it's a

793
00:36:13,570 --> 00:36:13,930
new policy.

794
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:16,570
Artificial.

795
00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:19,770
Intelligence use. Yes.

796
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:22,000
For the public interest.

797
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,830
Is there a succinct

798
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:25,800
way to explain.

799
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:27,970
What we're trying to accomplish.

800
00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:31,430
Yes, I think so. Shall I try.

801
00:36:33,070 --> 00:36:35,770
In please feel free to can I'll take a, a

802
00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:37,200
stab. You can take a stab if you, you may

803
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:40,930
remember. We, we started one and, and essentially.

804
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:44,100
Was to give employees the opportunity to use AI.

805
00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:47,070
But to protect the systems that we have and to

806
00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:48,500
protect personal information.

807
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:51,670
While we do that. And so we drafted one that

808
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:54,600
was in use in some other communities. And ultimately our

809
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,230
council took a look at what we had and said,

810
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:57,070
we think we have something.

811
00:36:57,630 --> 00:36:59,800
Better, but essentially said the same thing, but in a

812
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,000
format that they felt more comfortable with, but it's about

813
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,470
giving employees the opportunity to use it, to disclose.

814
00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:08,270
It, when it is being used, like we did in

815
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:10,100
this meeting, which went excellently.

816
00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,930
To make sure that we're not using it, any of

817
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:14,930
the systems where there's personal information.

818
00:37:15,970 --> 00:37:18,300
Or protected information and that could be fire. It could

819
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,470
be public safety could definitely.

820
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:24,070
HR and treasury. So it'd be very cautious about how

821
00:37:24,070 --> 00:37:26,670
and when we use it and to give our staff

822
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:29,070
the heads up, when we're looking at software.

823
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:31,600
To help us do our work.

824
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,800
That that software doesn't include.

825
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,770
The AI tools that might make that information exposed to

826
00:37:37,770 --> 00:37:38,370
some teacher date.

827
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:42,930
Very complicated. I'm talking like, I know what I'm talking

828
00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:45,270
about. I do not. A lot of this really has

829
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:47,100
to do with data governance. So.

830
00:37:47,570 --> 00:37:49,030
So, so I would actually classify.

831
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,100
A lot of the, the mission of a policy like

832
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:53,930
this around.

833
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,830
Attempting to prevent the utilization of shadow AI mm-hmm

834
00:37:57,830 --> 00:37:59,000
so folks going out and.

835
00:37:59,770 --> 00:38:02,570
Acquiring AI tools on their own, and then taking our

836
00:38:02,570 --> 00:38:04,370
data and putting it into those systems and using it

837
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:07,100
to generate summaries like this, like I did. So this

838
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:07,600
would be the.

839
00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:08,930
Example of, you know,

840
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:12,100
outside actors taking data and, and running it through the

841
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,970
system now. So you violated, or it policy, it's not

842
00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:18,000
it's hasn't been enacted yet, but.

843
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:20,000
To your point, right?

844
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:25,430
So software tools that leverage AI capabilities, which many tools

845
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:28,030
have that built in, right. That doesn't necessarily mean that

846
00:38:28,030 --> 00:38:28,800
data that goes into.

847
00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:31,570
Those platforms is going into the public domain because the

848
00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:33,430
AI capability within that particular.

849
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,970
Piece of software may be containing that data. Correct? Right.

850
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,670
So like,

851
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,800
and I don't know. I, I was actually thinking about

852
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,570
asking this question, but you know, it says in the

853
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:43,470
policy around.

854
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Utilizing only tools that are sanctioned by the it department,

855
00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:49,800
but you know, what are those tools like today? What

856
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,200
are they? Right. So off the top of my head,

857
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,430
you know, I'm assuming.

858
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:56,300
That Kate is using AI based or AI type based

859
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,930
image, generation tools to generate images for.

860
00:38:59,970 --> 00:39:02,000
The content that she creates or graphics that she creates,

861
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,930
which is extremely common today. Right? Mm-hmm but.

862
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:08,430
You know, like with Microsoft 365 mm-hmm we could

863
00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:12,200
license the co-pilot capability, which, you know, takes automated notes

864
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,100
in all your meetings and gives you the summary of

865
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:14,270
the.

866
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,930
Meeting and the follow up might have some, all those

867
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:16,930
pieces. Right. But it doesn't.

868
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:19,470
Doesn't necessarily mean that data is going to the public

869
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:20,470
domain, cuz it's.

870
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:23,200
It's it's just as secure as any other data within

871
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,230
our Microsoft 365, 10. That that's probably a very good example

872
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:27,430
to exactly, to think about.

873
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:29,930
For that everybody I think can relate to.

874
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:33,830
Yeah, I, I think that was.

875
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,500
You know, like you said, most of it is data

876
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,830
governance, which I think is a core principle of the

877
00:39:39,930 --> 00:39:42,030
it policies for anywhere.

878
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,270
But I was just curious about the generative.

879
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:48,070
It, I mean a I piece because you also, as

880
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,030
I talk about stifling, you wanna make sure that people

881
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:52,430
can still use these tools, but just making sure that

882
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:53,100
it's marked as.

883
00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:56,030
AI. I think even when I was in the treasurer's

884
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:57,270
office, that video.

885
00:39:58,030 --> 00:40:00,500
On how a tax bill is. And I think it

886
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:02,100
even has in the corner, you know, made with AI

887
00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:04,300
and I wrote the script, put it into AI so

888
00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:06,030
it can read it better than I.

889
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,970
Could, you know, so I think that's just.

890
00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:12,300
If you're using the tools and they're approved and sanctioned

891
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:12,670
and.

892
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:15,670
You know, as long as it denotes that it's AI,

893
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:16,830
I think there's nothing wrong with that.

894
00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:19,230
Yeah. I mean, generally speaking like this document, I just

895
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:21,200
generated and sent over to you. So you guys couldn't

896
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,000
do what you wanted with it. But if I was

897
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,670
generating the document, I actually find that I spend.

898
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:27,970
Usually about the same amount of time working on a

899
00:40:28,070 --> 00:40:30,800
document, it just comes out better. Yeah. So, so I've

900
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
gone through enough times that it's edited quite a bit

901
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,930
from what was originally.

902
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:37,000
Produced by whatever the tool might be, but you know,

903
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
the, the content just it's, it's more efficient.

904
00:40:39,930 --> 00:40:42,300
It's I think that that's exactly what our goal was,

905
00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:44,930
at least initially, and where we are now is to

906
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:45,670
give our.

907
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,270
Our staff, the ability to feel comfortable using those tools

908
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,970
with some guardrails.

909
00:40:52,030 --> 00:40:54,000
Guardrails around it. I was initially people felt like, oh,

910
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:56,470
you know, I used AI to do this and we

911
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:58,470
all would look at it and say, we know, because

912
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:58,830
you can tell.

913
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,930
So people feel comfortable, the tasks like we need.

914
00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:06,700
This data to be in this format in Excel, that

915
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:08,830
would take us half a day to go put together

916
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:11,700
that task can be completed. You can tell it to.

917
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:13,230
Do it and it'll be done in 15 or 20

918
00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:15,100
minutes. I mean, that's the type of stuff that's just

919
00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:16,930
low hanging fruit.

920
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:21,470
I don't know if this answers your question or makes

921
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:21,800
it worse.

922
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,930
Okay. Yes, we'll on the same page. We are. Okay.

923
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Thank you very much.

924
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,470
Everybody's good. I'll make a motion that we approve the.

925
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,670
HR updated policies as presented.

926
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,270
Second, any of this discussion?

927
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,300
Seeing none, all those in favor. Aye. Unanimous.

928
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:50,570
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much.

929
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,230
Thank you, suspension. One last thing before they go, I

930
00:41:53,230 --> 00:41:55,800
know all four of us would want to recognize attorney

931
00:41:55,870 --> 00:41:56,500
Tim Essen.

932
00:41:56,870 --> 00:42:01,000
Who's our HR expert, labor expert at Copeman and page

933
00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:02,100
AP law. And.

934
00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:06,770
It's amazing how responsive he's to us and available to

935
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:09,100
us and how knowledgeable he is. And he's a great

936
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:09,430
person.

937
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:11,970
On top of it. So we're really lucky to have

938
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:15,270
him. Thank you for saying that. Yeah. Excellent. Thank you.

939
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,570
Thank you. Thank you.

940
00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:22,000
Yes. So that brings us to whole business matters. Not

941
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000
reasonably anticipated. Does anybody have anything?

942
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,000
Now new business. So commission on disability membership.

943
00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:34,830
Request to reduce to seven members. And Shane is the

944
00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:36,430
liaison to the commission on disability.

945
00:42:37,470 --> 00:42:39,830
I attended, I was gonna say their last meeting, but

946
00:42:39,830 --> 00:42:42,770
I think this was another. Yeah, I missed since then,

947
00:42:42,830 --> 00:42:44,930
but we, we attended a meeting with raised.

948
00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:48,500
Raised in early August or so. Yeah. Yep.

949
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:50,600
And I think the current.

950
00:42:51,570 --> 00:42:54,370
Membership is at 11. Yes, it was at 11.

951
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Voting members, there were small turnouts, but that they werehaving.

952
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,470
You know, most of the time they met the quorum,

953
00:43:01,570 --> 00:43:02,970
but they were having difficulty.

954
00:43:03,970 --> 00:43:07,370
Maintaining a warm throughout the meeting. Right? So, so the

955
00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:08,600
request here, and I guess.

956
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,300
And I believe it was when I was not on

957
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:12,030
the board. The.

958
00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:15,670
The commission was expanded to the 11 members, but.

959
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,000
Based on those challenges around yeah. Achieving a forum.

960
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:22,070
The request here is to dial that back.

961
00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:25,370
And I believe the members have already been identified.

962
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,600
As far as who will continue to be the full-time

963
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,000
members and who will be the alternates.

964
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:34,230
Alternates. And that is all in the packet.

965
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,670
Yeah. So I'm not sure if anybody has any questions

966
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:39,000
or concerns. I did.

967
00:43:39,970 --> 00:43:42,030
Notify Nick Keegan, that we were gonna raise this issue

968
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:42,470
this evening.

969
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:45,500
But if not anybody from the commission here. So if

970
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:45,700
you.

971
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,230
Have questions or want to hear from somebody at the

972
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:50,370
commission? We could always do that. Or we could act

973
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:51,000
on this now.

974
00:43:54,670 --> 00:43:56,670
I'm okay with it. Yeah. I, I, I.

975
00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:59,270
Just want to understand that.

976
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:04,070
From 11.

977
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:08,030
We're back down to seven. Yes, because that's more.

978
00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:11,200
Serviceable. Yes, because I think that the.

979
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,770
Be when this was one of the concerns that we

980
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:17,430
had going to 11 mm-hmm was that they would

981
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:20,030
have enough people to hit Warren numbers.

982
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:22,370
Every time they held a meeting.

983
00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:26,000
So by going back down to seven, you only need

984
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:26,430
four.

985
00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:30,570
To head quorum. Okay. Yeah. So that was the whole,

986
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,970
yeah. Six verse four.

987
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:37,070
And the ultimate stood still be utilized, correct to, to

988
00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:37,930
fill in the.

989
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,970
Other gaps as I can set. Yeah. The vacancy from

990
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:44,470
the meeting. Right. Okay. Thank you. Just goes to show

991
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:45,770
you when you turn it up to 11.

992
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,670
Sometimes you gotta dial it back. .

993
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:57,270
Okay. Yes, that was good. That was good. it's

994
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:57,470
good.

995
00:44:58,670 --> 00:45:00,770
I am glad that everybody was on board with that

996
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:00,970
one.

997
00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:02,830
Most of us. Okay.

998
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:06,270
Do you need the adult names or do as presented

999
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:08,300
last page of the packet? Excellent.

1000
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:13,670
Okay.

1001
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:18,570
So the only one was down was per email.

1002
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:22,030
Are we good with, is he alternate or is he.

1003
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200
D. So the

1004
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:29,830
Southern members are Kelly, Meg, Dom, Stephanie.

1005
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,030
Lisa Jeanie and Charlene.

1006
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Okay. Yes. Can you

1007
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:38,300
read it. Yep.

1008
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:40,930
I'd like to make a motion.

1009
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:42,200
That

1010
00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:46,230
we use that the seven members.

1011
00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:52,370
For the commissioner on disabilities would be Kelly, Kelly. Trapasso

1012
00:45:52,930 --> 00:45:53,500
Meg Keegan.

1013
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,430
Dom Gelson, Stephanie.

1014
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:57,470
Laton

1015
00:45:59,770 --> 00:46:00,800
Lisa Judson.

1016
00:46:01,930 --> 00:46:06,700
Janine Collins and Charlene and Chadwick. And then the alternate

1017
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:07,770
members would be.

1018
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,670
Joanne Liebers, Shonda Desante Julia Wright.

1019
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:15,030
And Don Royer as presented.

1020
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,030
Pending they're accuracy status.

1021
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:25,030
And the call that Shane and I run, we, we

1022
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:25,230
kind of.

1023
00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:28,500
Talk to them about just, you know, making sure that

1024
00:46:28,570 --> 00:46:30,930
the members that are being chosen or the members that

1025
00:46:30,930 --> 00:46:34,200
are the most likely to attend and be available.

1026
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,800
Just based on history. Okay. We received an understood.

1027
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Thank you second. Okay. Any additional discussion?

1028
00:46:43,070 --> 00:46:45,970
All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. It's unanimous.

1029
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,970
No problem. It's not entirely straightforward. I don't get that

1030
00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:54,230
package.

1031
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,470
Matter's not reasonably anticipated for new business.

1032
00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:02,970
Public comment.

1033
00:47:06,370 --> 00:47:07,300
Closing remarks.

1034
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:10,970
Remarks. If I may, Mr. Chairman.

1035
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:14,300
Let's please continue to pray for peace.

1036
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:18,230
For restraint among leaders for protection of innocent life.

1037
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,500
And for justice guided by wisdom.

1038
00:47:21,970 --> 00:47:24,600
Thank you, Mr. Yeah, one of the thing is that.

1039
00:47:25,870 --> 00:47:27,200
As schools back in session.

1040
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
You know, all those food athletes and.

1041
00:47:31,570 --> 00:47:33,800
The other seasons are posted on the, you know, school

1042
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,970
website. It's always a.

1043
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:37,800
You know, good thing to go out and, you know,

1044
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,000
support all the sandwich, you know, athletics, you know that

1045
00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:43,670
and another programs they have some plays coming up. So

1046
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:43,800
it.

1047
00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:45,930
It's always good for the public to know about it

1048
00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:48,300
and that they're all welcome to go. They're all free,

1049
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,570
you know, so it's a good yeah. Thing to go

1050
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:50,830
see.

1051
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,600
And, you know, here we on the Eve of the

1052
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,270
anniversary of September 11th.

1053
00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:58,030
25 years. So

1054
00:47:59,370 --> 00:48:01,770
certainly a very significant moment in all of our lives.

1055
00:48:02,030 --> 00:48:04,370
But if you have the opportunity, I encourage you to

1056
00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:07,100
join us at station three in Forestdale tomorrow morning at

1057
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:07,370
nine.

1058
00:48:07,770 --> 00:48:10,370
Am for what I'm, I'm confident is gonna be a

1059
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:12,500
very nice ceremony and then there's gonna be a.

1060
00:48:13,470 --> 00:48:16,030
Small reception afterwards with pastry.

1061
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:17,930
Provided by the bakery.

1062
00:48:19,170 --> 00:48:21,930
Bakery and, and an opportunity for folks to, to interrupt

1063
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:24,070
a little while. So that starts at 9:00 AM.

1064
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:26,430
Tomorrow morning at station three.

1065
00:48:27,930 --> 00:48:28,670
So with that.

1066
00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:31,030
I'm gonna let folks know that our next meeting.

1067
00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:35,300
Will be here on September 24th at 6:00 PM.

1068
00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:39,000
And that will continue to be here at the Sandhill

1069
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,030
school. And then we'll likely be moving back to town

1070
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:42,000
hall, I think. But.

1071
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:45,670
That's yet to be finalized, but likely.

1072
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,830
And we are going to be moving into executive session

1073
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:51,030
and we will not be returning to public session this

1074
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:51,370
evening.

1075
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,100
So with that, I will take a motion to.

1076
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,770
Move to executive session, make a motion. We honor executive

1077
00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:57,930
session.

1078
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,030
Second. Okay.

1079
00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:04,030
Motion to move to executive session in compliance with mass

1080
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:05,770
general law, chapter 30, a.

1081
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Section 21 a to comply with open meeting law for

1082
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,230
the review and potential approval and release of the executive

1083
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:13,000
session minutes.

1084
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:16,200
As well as the disposition of real property, is there

1085
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,830
any discussion on the motion as presented by Mr. HAWC?

1086
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:21,800
Seeing none, we will roll call vote.

1087
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:27,030
Aye. Aye. And I vote. Aye. It is unanimous. We're

1088
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:27,070
now on executive session.