1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:30,190 Good evening. It is my honor to welcome you to the February 17th, 2026 meeting of the Sanford City Council. As a quick reminder, I would just ask you to check that your cell phones are on silent. And I will, at this time, invite councilmember Chris Petty to lead us in our invocation. Please, by your ear. Father God, name of Jesus, we thank you for your excellence, your mercy and your grace. We thank you for the stars, the sun, the sun, and the moon, and everything that you call. 2 00:00:30,190 --> 00:00:36,970 life. Bless the ones who are here. Bless the ones. Bless the ears of the folks here in this 3 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:47,190 and bless the ones who are not here with us. We ask you to, we ask you to bless us, bless this 4 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:52,770 board with your, your excellence, your guidance, and let us make the best decisions for this, 5 00:00:52,830 --> 00:00:59,390 and the residents of Sanford, Carolina, Jesus' name, amen. Amen. At this time, I invite you to join me 6 00:00:59,390 --> 00:01:00,490 in the Pledge of Allegiance. 7 00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:08,440 To the flag of the United States of America. 8 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:14,590 And to the Republic of the United States of America made it 9 00:01:14,590 --> 00:01:17,410 difficult with the liberty and justice for all. 10 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,300 All right, at this time, that brings us to item number four, 11 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:26,000 which is the approval of the agenda. 12 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,540 And I would seek a motion. 13 00:01:27,820 --> 00:01:28,280 Madam Mayor. 14 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:28,960 Mr. Buffalo. 15 00:01:29,140 --> 00:01:29,800 Motion to move. 16 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:30,660 Thank you for that. 17 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:31,220 Is there a second? 18 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:31,500 Second. 19 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,420 Seconded by Mr. Petty, any discussion? 20 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:35,040 On favor say aye. 21 00:01:35,260 --> 00:01:35,440 Aye. 22 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:36,360 Any opposed? 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,200 All right, our agenda carries. 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:44,080 our next item is our consent agenda you see the item there before you I would 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,560 seek a motion. Madam Mayor Ms. Rhodes. I'm a way for the consent agenda. Thank 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,500 you for that motion is that a second Mr. Persons? Yes Madam Mayor. Seconded by 27 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:57,820 Mr. Ferguson any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Our consent 28 00:01:57,820 --> 00:02:02,440 agenda carries. That brings us to item number six which is our special agenda and 29 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,000 it is such a pleasure to be able to see so many folks we're here to join us in this 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,520 moment to honor a member of our community. 31 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,640 It's Black History Month and it's a wonderful time for us to really take stock at the wonderful 32 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,160 things that are happening in our community, but most importantly, the amazing champions 33 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,240 that work tirelessly to make sure that our community continues to get better and better and that 34 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,820 all of our folks are looked after. 35 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:34,560 And at this time, I would like to invite Bishop Charles Millett to come join with me up here 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,920 on the stage as we present the special proclamation. 37 00:02:52,580 --> 00:02:58,460 We're ask Bishop Charles Millett has demonstrated a long standing and unwavering commitment to 38 00:02:58,460 --> 00:03:04,760 community service, dedicating time, leadership and expertise across diverse sectors to address 39 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,480 complex challenges and help remove barriers that prevent individuals and families from reaching 40 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,340 their full potential. 41 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,080 And we're ask Bishop Charles Millett is the founder and senior pastor of Christian provision 42 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,460 ministries where he and his wife, Patty, have created a welcoming, vibrant, and family-oriented 43 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:26,760 church focused on spiritual growth and community outreach. And whereas Bishop Charles Millett 44 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,880 served as president of the Let's Do It Together Foundation, a nonprofit organization founded to 45 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:38,260 strengthen the community by promoting opportunities for everyone through education, advocacy, civic engagement, 46 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:43,440 and collaboration, and which provides opportunities for leadership development, crisis intervention 47 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,760 training and more and more to uplift our community. And whereas Bishop Charles 48 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,340 Millett is a member of the Sanford Area Growth Alliance Board of Directors and 49 00:03:52,340 --> 00:03:56,260 Economic Development Subcommittee where he helps to align Saga's economic 50 00:03:56,260 --> 00:04:00,000 development strategy with the community's needs through targeted recruitment 51 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,680 incentivized participation and recommendations for the city and counties 52 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,140 governing boards. And whereas Bishop Charles Millett is an advocate for small and 53 00:04:08,140 --> 00:04:12,180 emerging businesses shown by his commitment to the real investment in Sanford 54 00:04:12,180 --> 00:04:17,560 entrepreneurs, the Rise Program, for nine cohorts during which time he has helped to 55 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,860 select participants and award reimbursable grants to build and sustain successful new businesses 56 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:28,300 in downtown Sanford and historic Jonesboro. And whereas Bishop Charles Millett has a heart 57 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:33,380 for youth, serving as the chair of Positive Direction for Youth, an innovative youth conference 58 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:39,980 designed to encourage and inspire, which serves nearly 8,000 youth, youth leaders and pastors 59 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:45,400 years each year. And whereas Bishop Charles Millett serves as president of providing academic 60 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:51,080 yield, a 21st century community learning center that provides free academic, cultural, 61 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,740 artistic, and social support to students in kindergarten for 10th grade, through a collaborative 62 00:04:56,740 --> 00:05:01,640 partnership with parents, schools, and the community, with 100 youth currently enrolled 63 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,100 and 2,000 having been served through the program. And whereas Bishop Charles Millett has 64 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:09,120 the deep commitment to community health and well-being, 65 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:12,440 serving on the Central Carolina Hospital Governing Board, 66 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:15,880 the Sanford Equity Task Force, the Sanford Housing Authority, 67 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:19,500 the Sanford Planning Board, and the Kellogg Foundation Board, 68 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:23,080 and as past President of the Lee County and WACP. 69 00:05:23,860 --> 00:05:26,100 Now by the virtue of the authority vested in me 70 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:27,300 is Mayor of the City of Sanford. 71 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:28,880 I, Rebecca Whitehoff-Salman, 72 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,120 do hereby recognize Bishop Charles Millett 73 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,600 for a sustained commitment to community engagement 74 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,820 and leadership and for dedicated efforts 75 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:40,740 to address challenges, remove barriers, and create pathways for individuals and families 76 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:42,900 throughout the community to thrive. 77 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:44,040 Thank you so much. 78 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Thank you all so very much, Madam Mayor, Brother Pro Tem, and the Councilman. 79 00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:05,820 It is this board and previous board's vision and leadership for Sanford that calls all of 80 00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:08,780 us to be in such unique places to actually serve. 81 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:12,560 We appreciate the path that you paid for us. 82 00:06:12,980 --> 00:06:21,420 We look forward to continuing to work together to help improve the quality of life for all of the people that live in Sanford and also in Lee County. 83 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:27,460 Thank you to my family and my friends and some of our church members that came with us on this evening. 84 00:06:27,940 --> 00:06:34,540 Thank you all so very much. We look forward to what we can do because we're always better when we do it together. 85 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:14,590 We'd 86 00:07:28,380 --> 00:07:31,980 like to invite Bayline friends to come up for a photo up here if you'd like. 87 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:34,480 Yeah, let's come quickly if you want to go. 88 00:07:36,980 --> 00:07:37,340 Run. 89 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:38,920 I'm just kidding. 90 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:52,480 That's all right. 91 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Hey, you're boring. 92 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:47,180 Come on. 93 00:08:52,880 --> 00:09:00,600 I want to give you a big hug. 94 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:02,120 First lady's house. 95 00:09:04,820 --> 00:09:07,220 Lane, are you going to take your picture from back here? 96 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Okay. 97 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:17,940 Whisley, you guys will come forward 98 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:19,980 and fill in this space and then the sky backstage. 99 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,780 This thing, I would say… 100 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:23,800 They're bombing me. 101 00:09:23,860 --> 00:09:25,460 You're one of the babies from the market. 102 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,880 It was like 1 or 2. 103 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,680 Busy, you can live in peace, 104 00:09:30,020 --> 00:09:31,360 or have short on the day and red, 105 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,700 you've been working out from this year. 106 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:34,220 I don't want it. 107 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:35,740 I want it right around here. 108 00:09:36,580 --> 00:09:38,640 Is this kind of a lump of a queen hat? 109 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:39,320 Yeah. 110 00:09:39,620 --> 00:09:40,720 And then I can just take a look. 111 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,400 No, take a look. 112 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Mine away. 113 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:43,900 Yeah. 114 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:45,560 I cannot see. 115 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,660 I cannot see. 116 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:47,180 Bring. 117 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:47,820 Come on. 118 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:48,700 Come on in there. 119 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:48,920 There. 120 00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:50,900 In and out. 121 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:52,560 I cannot see. 122 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,120 And there. 123 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:54,900 There. 124 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:55,660 There. 125 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,400 There. 126 00:09:58,420 --> 00:09:59,260 And this is not. 127 00:09:59,380 --> 00:09:59,820 I cannot see. 128 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Yeah. 129 00:10:00,980 --> 00:10:01,620 You should follow. 130 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:04,240 This is how to be there. You need to come all the way back. 131 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,740 Oh, that's how you interact with your friends. 132 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,660 There's all that I have. There. That's it. 133 00:10:11,660 --> 00:10:13,640 In so many, you still need your window. 134 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:16,880 Here we go. 135 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,860 I was looking at her. 136 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:21,340 Don't look at her. 137 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:22,540 Don't look at her. 138 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,380 Don't look at her. 139 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:23,960 Don't look at her. 140 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Don't look at her. 141 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:25,020 Don't look at 142 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:34,430 her. 143 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,220 Don't look at her. 144 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:40,380 Don't look at 145 00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:05,930 her. 146 00:11:42,390 --> 00:11:45,290 I got a thing 147 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:45,590 We do. 148 00:12:13,330 --> 00:12:17,630 I did see you coming. 149 00:12:21,250 --> 00:12:26,560 All right, I will go ahead and call our meeting back to order. 150 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,220 Our next item on our agenda is item number seven, which is our regular agenda. 151 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,180 We have no regular agenda items this evening. 152 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:36,840 Our next item is eight, which is new business. 153 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,040 We have no new business this evening. 154 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,100 and item 9 which is our decisions on public hearing and we have none this evening. 155 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:45,820 Item number 10 is our cases for public hearing. 156 00:12:46,180 --> 00:12:49,640 We do have two cases for public hearing and they will be held at 6 p.m. 157 00:12:50,380 --> 00:12:54,040 And so I would like to go ahead and move forward with our closed session. 158 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,800 If our attorney will go ahead and read the statutes, please. 159 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Thank you mayor. 160 00:12:58,060 --> 00:13:01,100 We need a motion to go in a closed session in accordance with North Carolina and 161 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:02,540 on statute 143, 162 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:10,120 dash 318.11, A3 and 4 to consult with an attorney employed 163 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,820 by the public body in order to preserve the attorney 164 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:15,360 client privilege and to discuss matters relating 165 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,260 to the location or expansion of industries 166 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:19,880 or the businesses in the area certified by the public body. 167 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,060 Thank you, Ms. Patterson. 168 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,820 You've heard the statutes is their motion. 169 00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:23,460 So moved. 170 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:24,500 Thank you, Ms. Dabs. 171 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:25,060 Is there a second? 172 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:26,740 Seconded by Mr. Petty. 173 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:27,260 Any discussion? 174 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:28,860 All in favor say aye. 175 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,340 Aye. 176 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:30,160 Any opposed? 177 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,200 all right we are in close session and we will reconvene at 6 p.m. for our 178 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,720 public hearings. All right I'd like to go ahead and call our meeting back to 179 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,560 order. Thank you so much for our planning board for being here for our 180 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:47,800 public hearing portion of our meeting. Our first public hearing this evening is 10 a 181 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:53,280 which is a flood hazard area regulations update and floodplain map update. I will 182 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,620 go ahead and open the public hearing. Public hearing is now open and this 183 00:13:57,620 --> 00:13:59,680 We have the floor to lead us to this item. 184 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:02,000 Good evening, everyone. 185 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,200 I've provided a paper printout copy of this PowerPoint presentation to each of the 186 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,800 council members at your seat. 187 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:15,520 We will discuss replacing Article 13, flood hazard area regulations of the UDO with the latest 188 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,560 model flood damage prevention ordinance provided by the North Carolina floodplain mapping 189 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,780 program, also updating the FEMA national flood insurance program map for Lee County, 190 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:29,740 We'll put the latest map panels provided by the North Carolina flood plain mapping program. 191 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:34,520 These matters go hand in hand and we'll be discussed together, but we'll require two separate 192 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,380 recommendations by the planning board and two separate votes by the City Council. 193 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,060 Once again, we're proposing to update our current flood hazard area regulations to ensure that 194 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:52,120 Olli County citizens who like to participate in the National Flood Insurance Program are 195 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,980 able to do so. 196 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:58,140 This information was reviewed by the Director of the Lee County Office of Emergency Management 197 00:14:58,140 --> 00:14:58,900 of it to the right here. 198 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,820 Matt Britt. 199 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,980 And he was supportive of adopting the new model ordinance. One thing that I would like to point out that it's important is it should be noted that no additional structures are mapped as being within the 100-year floodplain, all the new FEMA National Flood Insurance Program map for Lee County. That means no structures are in the floodplain as per the new maps that weren't in the floodplain before. Floodplain regulations are routinely updated per model ordinance provided by the North Carolina Department of Crime Control. 200 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:32,940 control, and public safety, division of emergency management 201 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:34,720 floodplain management branch. 202 00:15:35,340 --> 00:15:38,040 Several objectives of this ordinance are to protect human 203 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,300 life safety and health, minimize expenditure of public 204 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:44,760 money for costly flood control projects, and minimize the 205 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,720 need for rescue and relief efforts associated with flooding 206 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 and generally undertaking at the expense of the general 207 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,780 public. 208 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:55,420 The language within the proposed model ordinance is generally 209 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:58,900 the same as our current ordinance, which was also a model 210 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:02,720 ordinance. With more clarification and detail provided, the most 211 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,940 noteworthy changes are as follows. The required elevation for the first 212 00:16:06,940 --> 00:16:11,360 finish floor of a house in Sanford would increase from 2 feet above the 213 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,520 base flood elevation to 4 feet above the base flood elevation. 214 00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:21,540 And that's what is proposed. Now to clarify, there's a level of the 100 year flood 215 00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:25,320 and there's a level of your first finish floor of your home. Right now in 216 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Sanford there's two feet required we call that free board between the level 217 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,200 the 100 year flood and the first finish floor of your home. The new model 218 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,580 template ordinance is proposing the state would like for you to increase that 219 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:43,980 to four feet to provide more room for the flood waters to go in and out through 220 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:47,920 your flood events. Now the minimum they would like for you to have is what we 221 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,380 currently have two feet that's in place. So you have the option of choosing do you 222 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:54,080 stay with two, or do you go with four? 223 00:16:56,220 --> 00:17:02,340 Another one thing I would like to mention is, since I presented this information to 224 00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:06,460 the City Council, I completed some research regarding what other counties and cities 225 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:07,360 around us have. 226 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,740 And even though two feet is the state recommended minimum elevation based on my research, two 227 00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:18,580 feet above the base flood elevation appears to be the most common regulatory flood protection 228 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:26,300 So, quite a few municipalities and counties did not up to go up to go with the four feet, they chose to go with the two. 229 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:41,630 Moving on, another notable change is accessory structures that are 150 square feet or less or $3,000 or less are exempt from the elevation, blood proofing certification requirements. 230 00:17:42,210 --> 00:17:45,570 Previously, there was only an exemption for size, not cost. 231 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:50,070 So currently in our regulations, the 150 square feet exist. 232 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:54,370 But adding the minimal investment option does appear to be citizen friendly. 233 00:17:54,750 --> 00:17:58,770 And we'll probably not be applicable in many situations because with the cost of building materials, 234 00:17:59,370 --> 00:18:02,670 your building out back is probably going to cost you $3,000 or more. 235 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:05,870 But it is kind of citizen friendly to throw that option in there. 236 00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:11,650 Also, floodplain development applications must include a plot plan drawn to scale that 237 00:18:11,650 --> 00:18:15,090 includes specific details, and that's in our current rigs. 238 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:19,590 The model ordinance proposes the plot plan includes specific details and be certified 239 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:23,130 by a registered land surfer or professional engineer. 240 00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:28,190 Staff recommends to include this language to ensure accuracy, to ensure compliance with 241 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:32,810 the local floodplain regulations, and to protect the current and future property owners from 242 00:18:32,810 --> 00:18:37,570 and accurate or incorrect information being provided to staff by review or approval. 243 00:18:38,090 --> 00:18:42,370 As it is right now, you simply submit a site plan to me as the floodplain administrator 244 00:18:42,370 --> 00:18:49,450 and using the information I have on hand, recorded plots, GIS, the FEMA firm maps, and so forth, 245 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:55,930 I determine whether or not is reasonably accurate. This would require a surveyor engineer to certify 246 00:18:55,930 --> 00:19:02,730 that it is indeed accurate, and therefore it kind of protects us, we ensure that everything 247 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:07,830 is compliant, and it assures future homeowners that everything is compliant. 248 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:13,400 That is our update for the REGs. 249 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,560 So now we'd like to talk about updating the flood maps. 250 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,380 Staff is also proposing to update the FEMA National Flood Insurance Program map for Lee County. 251 00:19:22,380 --> 00:19:26,820 For the latest map panels provided by the North Carolina floodplain mapping program, 252 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:31,720 to ensure that everyone, Lee County citizens, surveyors, engineers, insurance agents, 253 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:36,020 et cetera, have access to the most up-to-date floodplain mapping information. 254 00:19:37,340 --> 00:19:41,400 Each time the North Carolina flood mapping program provides a community with a new or 255 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,440 revised flood hazard map and study, the data must be adopted or the community will be at risk of 256 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,180 being suspended from the National Flood Insurance Program, which means, among other things, 257 00:19:51,180 --> 00:19:56,760 that property owners will not be able to purchase new NFIP or national flood insurance 258 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,920 program, flood insurance policies, existing policies will not be renewed, and no federal 259 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,120 grants or loans for development in flood hazard areas may be approved. 260 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:15,440 At this time, we're proposing to update 22 of the 74 panels, which are illustrated on the 261 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,700 screen behind you, the ones indicated in orange. 262 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,360 The maps are in digital format now and are available for viewing or downloading on the 263 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,100 North Carolina Flood Risk Information System website. 264 00:20:26,620 --> 00:20:30,320 So many years ago you would have to come to my office and roll these plans and we'd have 265 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,440 to find your map and we'd have to go through everything and figure out what the elevation 266 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,000 was. 267 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:41,560 Now all this information is readily available to anyone who's interested on this North Carolina 268 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,640 Floodplain mapping program website. 269 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,420 There is also the North Carolina Flood Risk Information Systems website and the Flood 270 00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:53,800 Inundation Mapping and Alert Network website, so there's lots of information out there 271 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,740 that didn't used to be out there available to everyone. 272 00:20:59,340 --> 00:21:04,640 The effective day of the map update will be determined by FEMA for our letter of final determination, 273 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:09,180 which is tentatively scheduled to be mailed to the city and Lee County this summer, moving 274 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:12,560 forward with the public hearing for the map review and the planning board recommendation 275 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,700 at this time will allow the governing boards for all three jurisdictions to officially adopt 276 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:20,800 the update of map panels as soon as the letter is received. 277 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:29,170 And we'll just flip through the PowerPoint just to point out to everyone the current effect 278 00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:30,750 of adoptive map is on your left. 279 00:21:30,970 --> 00:21:33,030 The preliminary proposed map is on your right. 280 00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:36,090 You'll see there's some cross sections that have been studied. 281 00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:37,390 It's a little bit different. 282 00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:43,930 A lot of the streams were re-studied and re-evaluated and new information was provided with regard 283 00:21:43,930 --> 00:21:49,250 to the level of the 100-year flood plain and the width of nonencroachment agreements, things 284 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:49,810 like that. 285 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:54,350 This is another area you may be familiar with, Carolina Trace, Lake Trace. 286 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:57,650 The effective panel is on your left, the preliminary is on your right. 287 00:21:58,130 --> 00:22:01,990 You'll see that the cross sections are a little bit different because this area has been studied 288 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:02,330 more. 289 00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:05,350 Also, this is the Kiwanis Park area. 290 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:07,690 You can see where Park E was noted on the map. 291 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:11,590 We have the effective panel on your left, the new panel on your right. 292 00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:18,650 You can see that the flood way that's mapped in this area has been studied and it's actually a bit narrower than it was in the past. 293 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:27,890 This is the website North Carolina Flood Risk Information System, or NC Fris, that I refer to almost every other day. 294 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:33,370 You can put in your location, your address, to get started. It's very easy. There's information on your left. 295 00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:39,350 And as I, this is information that you scroll down and you'll see you can check the preliminary and effective dates. 296 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:43,890 You can see tables and reports, things that are very interesting to engineers and 297 00:22:43,890 --> 00:22:47,130 surveyors working on projects that has floodplain on site. 298 00:22:47,310 --> 00:22:48,470 You can see floodway data. 299 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:53,130 You can see creeks that actually access the site and you can move on to actually see 300 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:57,830 non-incroachment width or this is the width that will measure left to right looking downstream 301 00:22:57,830 --> 00:23:01,310 of the area that is in the floodway or the non-incroachment area. 302 00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:06,210 And this is where the high velocity of floodwaters are if you have floodplain on your site. 303 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:18,670 So just all the scientific information is available at your fingertips, whether you're just a curious citizen, someone with a floodplain on your property or an engineer or a survey or this actually working on a project that involves floodplain. 304 00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:21,250 Does anyone have any questions? 305 00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:24,570 Are there any questions from council for Ms McNeil? 306 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:30,130 No questions, but just to be clear, I think we need to go to this for a lot of work job as well. 307 00:23:30,130 --> 00:23:35,130 and I just reached over and asked Linda if I heard it right that you did say that most 308 00:23:35,130 --> 00:23:38,210 of the other counties are staying with the two fee elevation. 309 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:45,450 Yes sir my research determined that most counties and municipalities around us have stayed 310 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:49,570 with the two fee of free board as opposed to choosing the state recommended for. 311 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:53,850 Thank you. Are there any other questions? 312 00:23:53,930 --> 00:23:54,510 I have one young. 313 00:23:54,970 --> 00:23:55,270 Mr. Hersen. 314 00:23:55,370 --> 00:23:59,090 If they don't go with the four men said flood does happen is there any 315 00:24:00,130 --> 00:24:01,510 Any backlash to that? 316 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:12,650 So one of the reasons that we're presenting these regulations to you at this time is this particular model ordinance has a lot of options for you to choose from in the past they didn't have so many options. 317 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:29,270 So once we get the language that the City Council has agreed to, the next step for me is to forward that ordinance in draft form to our national flood insurance program planner who is going to review it and provide these comments to me and he'll also forward it on to FEMA. 318 00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:36,070 So we will know what if any impacts are the option that we have chosen will have on the 319 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:38,130 area residents before we even adopt it. 320 00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:43,670 So I just need firmly in place the language that we agree to, then I'm going to get feedback 321 00:24:43,670 --> 00:24:49,570 and then we'll see if it can impact the residents negatively or positively before you adopt 322 00:24:49,570 --> 00:24:49,870 it. 323 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:50,650 You will know that. 324 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:55,270 But my other question is, I'm not in real estate business, I know we have some right here 325 00:24:55,270 --> 00:25:00,270 Mr. Malloy for one. Is that well if they go to the for if you guys go to four 326 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:05,450 feet instead of two with that raise the prices of the homes or if he can 327 00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:07,070 answer this you come answer that Mr. Malloy. 328 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,420 It's a reversed public hearing 329 00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:13,060 this evening. Mr. Malloy if you're willing to answer that I don't know if you know 330 00:25:13,060 --> 00:25:16,360 the answer that but please say your name. I'm serious. Steven I can answer it 331 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,420 together. I think theoretically if it costs more to build a home that home will 332 00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:26,480 the cost will be passed on to the buyer. Pretty much and it would 333 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,540 would cause the price to go up a little bit, it might be considered by buyers more valuable 334 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:36,040 because it is hot and four feet versus two as well. 335 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,920 So it might go up simply because of demand. 336 00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:44,400 It would be interesting as long as I'm here, if I might mention. 337 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:50,060 If the GIS does, I wonder when that will show the new flood planes and it would be interesting 338 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:52,880 if it would show where the fourth-foot elevation was too. 339 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:54,920 That would make it very easy. 340 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,540 And could you just state your name and address just as well? 341 00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:57,000 Oh, I'm sorry. 342 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,220 Steve Maloy, 2615 Belair Drive, Sanford. 343 00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:01,860 Thank you, sir. 344 00:26:01,940 --> 00:26:02,140 Thank you. 345 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,560 So GIS will change only after the effect, after we adopt the maps, and they're effective. 346 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,880 But if you look on this website right now, you can toggle between effective and preliminary, 347 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:15,180 and you can see what's existing and proposed. 348 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:18,840 One thing that's very important for the City of Sanford that I should point out, 349 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,120 is most development in the City of Sanford, new residential development, 350 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,600 that is a major residential subdivision. 351 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,600 The new subdivision regulations you just adopted not too long ago require all flood 352 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,000 plain to be dedicated in common open space, and it could not be included on an individual 353 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,920 private lot. 354 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:42,240 So new homes within the city and major subdivisions will not be within a flood plain. 355 00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:46,640 That will be within the common open area where they walk their dog or they have their park. 356 00:26:48,770 --> 00:26:50,890 Are there any other questions or comments from Council? 357 00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:56,950 Okay, we have no one signed up from the public to speak of this public hearing. 358 00:26:57,790 --> 00:27:01,090 So without any other comments from you all, I will close the public hearing. 359 00:27:02,110 --> 00:27:04,510 Public hearing on this item is now closed. 360 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:09,910 Our planning board will go to the West End Conference room to do their deliberations and 361 00:27:09,910 --> 00:27:13,690 again we thank you very much for your service on these public hearings. 362 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:14,230 Good evening. 363 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:15,170 Our 364 00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:31,090 second public hearing this evening is item 10b, which is to consider a development 365 00:27:31,090 --> 00:27:34,610 agreement between the city of Sanford and Matamie Homes and I believe that Mr. 366 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:38,750 Fortune is here to lead us through this item. I will open the public hearing. Public 367 00:27:38,750 --> 00:27:43,670 hearing is now open. Welcome Mr. Fortune. Good evening Bayer, members of Council. In front 368 00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:50,190 of you this evening is proposed development agreement for million by Matamie Homes. This 369 00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:54,610 This particular project is outside an existing sewer basin for the city of Sanford, 370 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:55,330 Tribal Water. 371 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:58,890 They will need to connect into an existing sewer basin. 372 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:06,810 So even though the current sewer basin that they are connecting into has capacity with 373 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:11,090 the current development along with the million that sewer basin will reach capacity. 374 00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:16,710 So Tribal River has already done some preliminary work to determine that they're the existing 375 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:23,570 18-inch interceptor needs to be a 24-inch that will help support the growth of the existing 376 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:28,730 base and the Vermilion project. So the agreement before you this evening lays out those 377 00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:34,950 details along with timelines that madamee homes will need to meet. So we promote the building 378 00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:41,250 of the homes in that subdivision. The agreement also states that madamee homes will pay their 379 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:47,050 proportionate share of that upgrade that will support their neighborhood and I'll pause 380 00:28:47,050 --> 00:28:52,030 there for any questions which may have. Are there any questions from council on this item? 381 00:28:55,770 --> 00:29:04,400 We have no sign-ups from the public for this public hearing so there's anything else that needs 382 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:11,400 to come before us on this please wait it if not I will close the public hearing public hearing on 383 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:18,280 this item is now closed and you have before you the developers agreement and I would seek 384 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,760 a motion regarding the consideration of the adoption of the developers agreement. 385 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,300 Madam Mayor. 386 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:23,860 Ms. Rhodes. 387 00:29:24,420 --> 00:29:27,880 I made that we approve the adoption of the development agreement with Madam E. Holmes. 388 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:28,920 Thank you for that motion. 389 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,540 Is there a second? 390 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:30,980 Seconded by Mr. Petty. 391 00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:31,920 Any discussion? 392 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,720 All in favor say aye. 393 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Aye. 394 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,340 Any opposed? 395 00:29:36,260 --> 00:29:36,380 All right. 396 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:36,920 That passes. 397 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Thank you very much, Mr. Fortune. 398 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Thank you for our partners at Maddening Homes and for our staff at Tribe River for working through a long process to get to this point. 399 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,240 But we're happy that we are able to move forward on this project. So thank you all very much. And thank you for being here. 400 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:59,980 We do have an additional close session. We need to return back to. So at this time, I will go around the room. 401 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,860 To see if anybody has any additional business they'd like to bring before the body, before we go back into close session, and then at that time, there will be no other business. Mr. Petty. 402 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,100 I don't have much, though. Thank you, Mr. 403 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:27,680 Mr. Ferguson. Yes, Madam Mayor. Just want to say thank you for the city of Sanford and to all people that have been celebrating our black history month. We've had two good people that we've celebrated, you know, this month, and you know, 404 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,160 We celebrate them every month and just want to say thank you guys for being part of a 405 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,980 diverse city that loves everyone and doesn't look at color but looks at you know the creed 406 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:40,300 and the character of the people that you serve here and as I look out in the audience 407 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:45,820 I just want to say thank you all staff and everyone else for what you do, how you make us as 408 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:50,660 an African-American black man, how you make us feel welcome and proud to be in this city. 409 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,740 So I just want to say thank you, thank you to Mayor, thank you to Attorney, thank you to 410 00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:57,580 Hall over there and just thank you everyone and just have a great day. 411 00:30:57,940 --> 00:30:59,120 Thank you, Mr. President. 412 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,860 Ms. Devs. 413 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:00,900 No, Ms. Rhodes. 414 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,160 Yes, ma'am. 415 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:02,780 Two things. 416 00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:10,800 Want to acknowledge and send our sympathies to the family of Reverend Jesse Jackson, who 417 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,720 passed away. 418 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,720 And I'll say Mr. Ferguson, he would follow in line with being a great civil rights leader, 419 00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:21,180 just like we had here tonight with Bishop Malayet. 420 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:28,340 So, we have our own local example, and I think it's important to recognize those folks. 421 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,080 Another thing, just an observation, I was at a United Way board meeting this morning, 422 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:40,240 and we were reviewing the different agencies in town that provide services to our residents. 423 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:51,160 Food, shelter, clothing, still-toed boots, eyeglasses, the necessary things that we take from 424 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,580 granted and we should be proud of all the folks that we have in our town, our 425 00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:03,760 organizations that take these challenges and do the best they can. So I just 426 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,220 want to give those folks a shout out. They deserve it because they work hard 427 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:12,220 and they make a difference in a lot of lives. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Rose. Mr. Buckles. 428 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,580 Don't remember that. Mr. Patterson. No, Mr. Hagway. I'll just be real quick. 429 00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:20,660 from 9 to everybody to come out if you all want to have a fun, 430 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,360 filled adventure weekend at Kiwanis Park. 431 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440 We're having the big rig adventure, 432 00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:28,040 so bring all the little ones in your life 433 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,980 to come, touch a truck at Kiwanis Park, 434 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:30,920 that'll be Saturday. 435 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 And then one of my favorite events all year, 436 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480 the International Culture Night is coming up. 437 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,260 So that'll be February 26, which is a Thursday evening, 438 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,060 but there's just so many opportunities 439 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:45,340 as we move into spring and into summer to come together 440 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:48,860 and to echo what Mr. Ferguson said, just come together 441 00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:52,400 and celebrate the full diversity and joy 442 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,140 of being together in community. 443 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:56,740 And these are the moments that make Sanford truly shine. 444 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,620 So hope to see you all out at these events. 445 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,000 And with that, Ms. Patterson, 446 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:02,680 I would ask for our closed session statutes. 447 00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:03,880 Thank you, Mayor. 448 00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:05,520 We need a motion to go in a closed session 449 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,440 in accordance with the North Carolina General Statute 143-318.11A3 and 4. 450 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,940 to consult with the attorney employees by the public body to preserve the attorney client privilege 451 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:23,220 and to discuss matters relating to the location or expansion of industries or other businesses in the area served by the public body. 452 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,720 Thank you for those statutes. You've heard them. I would seek a motion. 453 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,420 Madam, ma'am. 454 00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:27,960 Mr. Buffalo. 455 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Motion to move. 456 00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:29,740 Thank you for that motion. 457 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,980 Seconded by Mr. Petty. Any discussion? 458 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,440 On favor say aye. 459 00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:33,920 Aye. 460 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:34,680 Any opposed? 461 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,200 All right. We are in close session.