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Good evening. It is my pleasure to call to order the September 1st, 2021 meeting of the Sanford City Council, and at this time, I would like to invite Council member Akanocho to lead us in an invocation.

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Shall we borrow our heads for prayer?

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Our dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this evening.

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Thank you, Lord, for this first of September that we are able to be alive.

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And to see this day, Lord, we pray for all of the people in our community.

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Lord, I pray for the family of the bereaved.

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I pray for the new babies that were born in this community.

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This new month, Lord, we thank you for all the blessings that you give to everyone of us.

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Thank you, Lord, for this city council.

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Thank you, Lord, for all of us staff.

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Thank you, Lord, for all the blessings

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that the people who are here today are to this community.

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Lord, we just pray, Lord, that as we continue

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in our deliberation this day.

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Lord, I pray in the name of Jesus.

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Lord, that you just have to be with us.

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I pray that you will encourage us.

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I pray that you help us and guide us

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in the decision making for this community.

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That at the end of all this meeting, all this deliberation,

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that your name will be glorified. Lord, we pray for the sick in our community. I pray that you

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minister to them. Lord, I pray for the people who have lost hope. I pray that you give them hope.

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I pray for the people who are in the military service at this time overseas and in our country.

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Lord, just minister to them and their family. Lord, I pray for God for all of our loved ones.

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Minister to us and encourage us and Lord, you know every need in this room today.

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Minister to every need encourage every concern in this place and let us know that you are with us

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At the end of the day today in the mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ will pray

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Amen

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At this time, please rise and join with me in the Pledge of Allegiance

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The next item on our agenda is our public comment. We do have

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of three folks signed up this evening to come before us.

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So after I call your name, please come to the podium.

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You'll have three minutes to address the council.

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And just so that you know, the council does not make comments

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directly to folks following public comment.

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Our first sign up this evening is Ed Ashberg.

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May I please respond then?

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I don't have to respond.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you.

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Our next speaker then is Keely Porch.

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Well,

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thank you for letting me talk. My name is Keely Porridge, 360-3 Angel Road.

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but first came here back in November when the Lisa Sorg article came out about the data

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center and come knock as we know that was false but little did I know that we had saggo

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was already talking to other companies and developers for our little county.

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I met with Charles

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Taylor to discuss the writing of rules for data centers.

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I gave him, in Marshall, lots of suggestions and mysteries.

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None of those were adapted, especially the noise

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pollution and the structure sound regulations.

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Each day, we learn more from others mistakes.

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Texas is even asking for a pause button.

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Can you imagine a Republican governor understands what it's doing to his state?

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Counties all around us have been putting a more atory in a place.

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We're learning more each day of what happens.

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I'm asking the commissioners and the joint board affairs to hit the pause button.

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to relook at some of the stricter rules that are now in place or people are adapting and

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let's do it now before and after we have to pay the consequences.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Our final speaker for public comment this evening is Roberto Monterey.

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Good afternoon, council.

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I appreciate you guys letting me speak today.

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I'll start.

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I might go just a little bit over.

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And if you speak your name and address the

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Roberta Monterey 11 quartermaster here in Sanford.

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Good afternoon, Mayor and members of Council.

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My name is Roberta Monterey and I live in

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Quartermaster here in Sanford.

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For some time now, I've made an effort to attend

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Council meetings workshops and budget discussions

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because I want a better understanding where Sanford is going

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and what that direction ultimately means for the people

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even live in here.

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During that time, I spent more time listening to

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listen, take a note, and try to understand all the individual decisions being made, but

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how they fit together.

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And I keep coming back to two basic questions, that we fully understand the overall financial

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impact of all these decisions.

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And at what point does the public have a meaningful opportunity to understand and influence them?

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I recognize a staff and council are do significant work before and not even reaches this

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that preparation is necessary. But from the public's perspective, it can

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the sense of be difficult to understand how an idea developed, what alternative

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is we're discovered, considered, and how much the direction has already been

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established by the time we see it. Tonight, Chattam Park agreement is a good

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example. Sanford continues making significant infrastructure and capacity

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commitments locally while also taking on larger regional utility role involving

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Pittsburgh, Chattam Park, Chattam County, Solar City, Fuqua, Holly Springs, and other areas

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of region of growth.

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None of that stint.

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None of that alone is necessarily wrong.

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What I'm trying to understand is a full financial picture.

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Meanwhile, existing Sanford residents are experiencing increases in taxes, utility rates,

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other fees, and other costs associated with it.

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That I believe, I don't know.

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And that brings me back to the full financial picture.

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Is there a consolidated financial model that allows council and the public to see how all of these commitments together work together?

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In other words, what has Sanford committed to spend?

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What infrastructure and capacity have already been committed?

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What revenues are guaranteed and returned?

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And what has actually been collected?

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And when Sanford advances cost with the expectation of future reimbursement or revenue,

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How much of that risk are taxpayers or utility because suit was carrying in the means of?

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Because ultimately the question I'm trying to understand

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Is if development occurs more slowly than projected, who carries that financial risk? I ask that because individually, many of these decisions make sense in a perfect sense, but collectively, they become San Francisco long-term financial decision.

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And that picture, and that's the picture I'm trying to understand.

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The more I've listened and learned through 10 in these meetings, the more I come to appreciate

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how complex these decisions are, it also helped me better understand the questions I believe

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are important to ask.

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I'm not here because I have all the answers or any answers.

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I'm here because I want to understand the decisions being made, how they fit together

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and what they ultimately mean for Santa and its residents.

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It's time there.

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Two sentences.

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I'm not opposed and grew up.

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I believe smart growth should make growth pay for its fair share, protect existing

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residents, and clearly identify financial risk before they become obligations.

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I also recognize the managing growth as a simple.

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It's not simple.

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I appreciate the time the council and staff put into these decisions.

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And the work that goes into the plan of the Sanford's future, my question tonight,

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The simply part of one and two better understand that future and how we can get there together.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Our next item is item five on our agenda, which is the approval of the agenda.

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You see it before you, and I would seek a motion.

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Madam Mayor, I move to approve the agenda.

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We've a motion by Mr. Secretary.

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Seconded by Ms. Dabs, any discussion?

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Our agenda is approved.

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We have no items on our consent agenda this evening and that brings us to item seven, which is our special agenda.

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It is my pleasure that we have two very special items on our special agenda.

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They are proclamations honoring some very special folks in our community.

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The first is a presentation of a proclamation recognizing Scott Peterson for his heroic and life-saving actions.

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And at this time, I would like to invite Scott Peterson, Carson Lyc Carter, Darrell and Lynn Kirby up here to the podium for our proclamation.

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I get a little choked up, so bear with me.

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A proclamation.

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Whereas on the morning of July 20th, 2026, Carson Lyc Carter was working as a member of a construction crew performing roadway expansion work between Stanford and Broadway.

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when he suffered a severe and potentially life-threatening injury.

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And whereas Scott Peterson retired City of Sanford Employee,

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who served more than 30 years in the Public Works Department,

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was on-site serving as a third-party inspector

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and immediately recognized the seriousness of the situation.

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And whereas drawing upon his training and experience

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and without hesitation, Scott Peterson entered the work area

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to provide life-saving assistance,

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taking control of an extraordinarily difficult and chaotic moment to provide emergency care

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to Mr. LeCarder and stabilize the situation.

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And whereas Scott Peterson remained by Mr. LeCarder's side until first-health EMS arrived,

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provided paramedics with critical information regarding the extent of Mr. LeCarder's injuries,

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and ensured that Mr. LeCarder's family was informed of what had occurred.

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And whereas Scott Peterson's calm response, courage, compassion, and willingness to act in a moment of crisis,

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played an invaluable role in helping transform what could have been a devastating tragedy

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into a story of survival, recovery, and hope.

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Now, therefore, by the virtue of the authority vested in me as Mayor of the City of Sanford,

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I were back at Whitehaf Salman due here by recognized Scott Peterson for his heroic and life-saving actions on July 20,

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in 2006, which exemplify the very best of public service and demonstrate the profound difference one person can make.

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And join the family, friends, colleagues of Carson McCartor in wishing for his continued healing and full recovery.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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need to speak today.

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No behalf of my entire family, I want to personally extend our deepest gratitude and thanks

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to Mr. Scott Pigs.

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The man who without hesitations, just like the mayor said, jumped in and saved our son.

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My grandchildren's dad, nephew, grandson.

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If I could choose just a couple of words to describe Scott, it would be heroic and humble.

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Scott, we're incredible grateful to you.

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If it had not been for you, we would have been planning a funeral instead of planning

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courses recovery.

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That's the gift that our family would never be able to adequately put into words.

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It's got to say, and thank you, we'll never seem like enough, but as a family we want you

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to know how deeply grateful we are for your courage, your selflessness, and your willingness

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to act when it mattered most.

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When it was last 20th, 2026, you met a decision to change our families last forever, because

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So you're here at Oak Actions, we have Carson, and we have the opportunity to look forward to

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him living a pool in complete life.

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From all of us to you, thank you.

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We'll never forget Scott, and we'll never forget what you did for Carson and our family.

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Sitting constant, mad and mad, and mad.

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Thank you very much.

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It just didn't rain by else would do.

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You never leave a man behind.

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And that never leaves you. If you're a veteran, you know what I'm talking about. And I'm just happy that Carson able to see his family. I knew Carson's grandfather when I worked here, the city of Sanford. He was a personnel director. And I just recently found out he was before the accident. He was Carson was his grandson. And I'm so glad to tell him how you do what you can and leave the rest up to him.

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to God, to City Council, and that way, that's very much good.

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The way you can take me is live out your life, the best week, and we're trying to

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more than not really paying attention to

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We

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are blessed as a community to also have an opportunity to honor another truly amazing community member this evening with another proclamation.

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And it's a deep blessing to be able to celebrate the difference that people have truly made in the lives of others.

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So this was a profound example.

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We do have another example, and I would be honored at this time to present a proclamation, honoring the life and legacy of Mary Ashburn.

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And I would invite Mr. Ashburn up here to receive the proclamation.

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We are honored to be joined by so many of Mary's friends and colleagues who supported the very important mission of her work this evening.

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And so I do want to acknowledge all of you who have come and make sure that you all have an opportunity to join us following this proclamation to be included as well in a photo.

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A Proclamation, whereas Mary Ashburn was a devoted advocate for animals and a compassionate

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service to the Lee County community whose work transformed the lives of countless dogs, cats,

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and families. And whereas in 2013, Mary Ashburn founded lending a, lending pause a hand

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after witnessing firsthand the challenges of an overcrowded animal shelter and made it her mission

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to help pets in need while advocating for responsible pet ownership and supporting local shelters.

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And we're asked for more than 13 years, Mary Ashburn, alongside her husband, and steadfast

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partner Ed in an ever-growing community of volunteers devoted countless hours to transporting

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animals to veterinary appointments, coordinating foster placements and adoptions, assisting

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families and pets in need, and building relationships with shelters and rescue organizations.

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And whereas, through lending pause a hand, Mary Ashburn helped provide education, veterinary

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care, safe haven, foster support, and life-saving assistance to animals in Lee, Barnett,

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Moore, Wake, Rowan, and Mecklenburg counties while becoming a trusted partner to the Lee

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County Animal Shelter and Shelter's Across North Carolina.

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And whereas, lending pause a hand has developed multiple programs designed to support responsible

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pet ownership and facilitate animal adoptions, including the pet food bank partnership with

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CUOC.

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The Itchian Luke Legacy Fund to help Lee County residents afford to pay her new to their

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pets and tails on trails program that allows community members to take walks and hikes with

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adoptable dogs.

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And whereas Mary Ashburn's work helped more than 1,000 dogs and cats find safety and new

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opportunities for loving homes with animals traveling as far as Idaho, Wisconsin, Alabama,

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and Texas, and even receiving assistance through volunteer aviation rescue efforts.

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And whereas before Mary Ashburn became involved in this work, as many as 80% of animals

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entering the local shelter faced in Indonesia.

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And through the combined efforts of Mary, lending pause a hand, shelter staff, rescue partners,

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volunteers, and the community, the percentage of animals saved at one point reached approximately

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97%. And whereas Mary Ashburn leased behind a remarkable legacy, reflected not only in

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hundreds of lives saved, but also in the network of rescuers, volunteers, adopters, families,

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and community partners who will carry her mission forward. Now therefore by the virtue of the

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by honor and celebrate the life and legacy of Mary Ashburn and express our communities

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profound gratitude for her years of compassionate service her.

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Unwavering advocacy for animals and the immeasurable difference she made throughout Lee County and beyond.

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Thank you, sir.

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Good evening. Glad to show up with all of our friends out here.

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Lending balls of hand was started by two people. Mary had a vision after filing out things that were going on at the shelter of wanting to contribute and try to do something to save some of these animals.

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She figured it out, she worked on it, she was consistent, and she wanted to make sure they

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all got bedded, sped and neutered, proper vaccines, food, safety, and a home forever.

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That was her goal, and that was her mission that she started.

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Two people started this, two people.

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I want to my group out here to stand up, all of them, who with Leningposs a hand out there,

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please stand up. I'd like for you to stand.

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This is not all of them.

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The reason I'm

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asking them to stand is two people started this with one good vision, Mary's. And now we

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have this, which is not all of them. And we have others out in the community who have donated

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time and money to help which we didn't get at first. So that is going on. This is a

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continuum of the legacy that Mary created and I want to thank you for Mary's heart

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and mine for being with us and keeping on that busy. Thank you.

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All right at this time we will take a brief recess to get some photos in the lobby so I'll

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ask each of our proclamation recipients and your guests to join us for a brief photo

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opportunity in the in the lobby and then we will return to resume our meeting in a few minutes.

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I'd like to go ahead and call our meeting back to order. Our next item of business is

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our regular agenda which is item eight which is an agreement with the Chattam Park Investors and we

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have with us, Mr. McCarley and Ms. Claude Feldard lead us through this item. Welcome to City Hall this evening.

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Good to see you. Thank you Mayor and members council as always it's a pleasure and an honor to

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to work with y'all on projects that are this interesting.

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This item is an agreement between the city and Chattam Park Investors.

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It's a global agreement designed to clean up all of the existing and previous agreements

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between the town of Pittsburgh and Chattam Park Investors, and between Sanford and Chattam

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Park Investors, and also to chart the path for the future.

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So, in this agreement, the global picture of this is, what do we get?

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We get the Clearwater wastewater treatment plant.

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They built it.

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We've been operating it for a couple of years, and they are going to transfer that plant

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its permit and some expansion land to the city.

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We also get a water tower that was built by Chattam Park Investors and was to be dedicated

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to Pittsburgh, we're going to get that and titled to the land that we need, and we at customers.

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What this agreement will eventually do is help chat on park with its development because it allows

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them reservation of capacity for sewer, and that's what's been holding up a lot of the growth

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in the Pittsburgh area. This agreement, what do they get? They get a reservation capacity agreement.

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They also get $1.9 million from the city for the expansion land at the water treatment plant site.

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Point to note, one of your speakers asked tonight what is the city of Sanford paying and what are your rate payers paying.

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That $1.9 will not come out of the Sanford rate payers base.

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It will come out of the base rate for the Pittsburgh area customers, not Sanford area customers.

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They also get the assurance of water and sewer capacity to fund their growth.

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So the bottom line, this is a good deal for the city.

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It will give you customers.

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It gives you an extra plant, a permit, some expansion land, and a tower all for the low price

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of $1.9 million that won't be in the Sanford right-payer base.

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Katherine is the smart member of this team, and she will explain to you some of the more important parts of the agreement.

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Thank you, sir.

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Welcome.

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It's great to see you all.

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Mr. McCarley gave you the high level overview of the agreement.

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I'm going to go into detail about three of the main components I want you to pay special attention to.

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The first is what the goals are of the agreement a few years ago, we set out and the city

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entered into a letter of intent with CPI to do precisely what this agreement does, which

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is button up the existing agreements between CPI and Pittsburgh, the agreements that the city

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entered into in the merger with Pittsburgh, and then additional agreements that the city has

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with CPI in that.

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It combines it all together.

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That's why Mac is calling this a global agreement.

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It also helps clean up anything

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that might not have been already done in the process.

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So that's what you have in this agreement.

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It also helps, like Mr. McCarlay said,

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to give a bit of planning to the expansion

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of the residential property in Pittsburgh

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for the wastewater capacity needs that's going to have,

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and then also it gives the city information as to what the growth might look like.

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That's built into this agreement because the city is going to need to coordinate with CPI,

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at least quarterly to understand what their needs are and what the city's capacity is.

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I'll go next into the land transaction itself. As Mr. McCarlay said,

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what's going to transfer is the clear water wastewater treatment facility.

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the land, some land that's around it to expand that facility in the future if

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driver, so I decided to expand it, and the permits that are that accompany the

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point, that's the really the key in the expansion. You'll also be receiving a

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water tower that's currently in service in the Pittsburgh area that helps

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achieve the goals that the city has been on to regionalize the area, and then of

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course make sure to.

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The infrastructure that's out there comes into trial rivers infrastructure, so it's all one in the unit of infrastructure.

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In return, again, that's $1.9 million and change and the wastewater capacity commitment.

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That's the third thing I want to talk through in detail with you about.

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So, the wastewater capacity reservation is a two-in-gd reservation.

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It does not come all on one day one.

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It's over the life of the agreement at the time.

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At its longest, it could be 25 years.

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That would be a 100,000 gallons, actually, 80,000 gallons per day per year for a 25-year period.

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The city is not obligated to provide more than 100,000 gallons per day per year,

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Which puts the city in the position of being able to control and manage the capacity requests that are coming in, not just from CPI, but from others in the Pittsburgh Service area.

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That being said, the city can provide more wastewater capacity to the extent it's there, and to the extent CPI needs it for the residential customers.

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Again, that achieves the goal that the cities have in half of helping to increase customers in that area, but still being controlled the wastewater capacity commitments that are being made.

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That's all that I have in terms of the three main buckets I wanted to go through, and we are happy to take questions.

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No, we had an opportunity to talk about this at length that are workshop, but are there any additional questions this evening from our council members for Mr. McCarley or Miss Cloud filter?

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I have one out of me.

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Mr. Ferguson.

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Just can you explain to the public,

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you said it's a come out to Pittsburgh.

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Fund is something like that.

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Can you explain exactly what you mean by that?

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Not the Sanford fund.

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So currently the city operates each of the service areas.

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Sanford, Pittsburgh, and the Chottam County area.

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And then of course the solar city as separate service areas.

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So when there is an amount that needs to be repaid using

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rates that are collected by the city.

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If it's that a Pittsburgh debt, it would be paid out of the rates collected in the Pittsburgh

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Service area, meaning it will not be collected out of the customers within the city of

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Sanford. It would come from the rates that are collected from the customers in the Pittsburgh

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Service area. They are all try-river customers, but the try-river systems will keep some

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separate with respect to what's being collected and paid for. Thank you. Mr. Ferguson, I want

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additional point on that you may remember that when we started these regionalization agreements

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rate parity has always been a critical issue to the people that we're working with on the other

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side. We will eventually get to rate parity so that the rates will all be the same, but that will

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not be in my lifetime, sir. Thank you. This recognition. I just want to commend you for the work you have

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And I know that the city was managing the water plant, the Chadampak before, who had been paid to do that, right?

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Yes sir. So will that money go away now, that would only plant?

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Yes sir, they will no longer be paying the city to operate the plant, but we will have all the revenues from the plant.

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Because we have to revenue now.

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We have had a share of that revenue up to now.

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But once we completely take it over,

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Chad and Park investors will be out of it.

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And it will all be handled by the city through the pits for a rate base.

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How large is the acreage that we are good to purchase with the plant?

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The expansion property is around 18 acres.

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the other properties themselves off the chart my head the water

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tower property is quite small less than an acre and gets 0.84 and

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the plant itself.

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I think is around 5 or 8 I can tell you in one second.

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It's 5.7 acres.

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Well I want to say that the plant was one of my first two when I got on the city council

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and it was a nice plant and it was beautiful and I believe that because of all these

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because of that plant we go to a place whereby we now have all the connection in Chatham County

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and peace borough and have tried even out. So I believe that it's a good situation for

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Samford to have the acquisition of that. Thank you very much.

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Mr. Taylor.

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I just want to say thank you. I know this is a lot of people.

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A lot of things do not know how tangled this can be.

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It's a spiral wave and you're navigating waters with existing contracts and existing relationships.

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And I just want to say thank you because we always joke back that we love to have you on staff.

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You're headed that direction, but you and Catherine did some credible work.

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And anybody that wants to look at the expenditure in our budget for outside council,

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there's no better example while we do what we do with these two individuals in front of us tonight.

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And just want to thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Any other questions?

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I'll just echo what was said before your expertise and the level of detail professionalism and

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big broad thinking that you have brought to all of these projects and working with our staff,

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working with all of our partners. It is a really, it's been a big project, but it has been

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a really interesting project and one that I'm really proud of the work that we can get with this

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many folks being happy with the outcome. I feel like those are, you know, the market been incredibly

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fair and incredibly detailed and a good solid foundation for us to build these partnerships

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upon and I'd appreciate the work and the good counsel you have given us all along the way.

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So thank you so much for everything that you've done.

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It is our pleasure.

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Thank you.

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Any further questions?

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All right.

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That before you, you have the agreement with chat and park investors and I would seek emotion.

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Thank you.

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Motion by Mr. Taylor to approve.

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Seconded by Mr. Ferguson.

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Any further discussion?

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All in favor say aye.

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All right.

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Any post?

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All right.

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That item passes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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All right.

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Our next item is new business.

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We have several items of new business.

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And I'm looking forward to these because they really signal the really amazing events and

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opportunities for community togetherness that we have coming up this fall into our holiday season.

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The first of which is Item 9A, which is to consider a resolution in support of the temporary

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closure of portions of multiple streets in the downtown area, as well as the portion

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of the Carthage Street parking lot for the purpose of street vest on Saturday, October

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10th, 2026, I hope y'all mark your calendars, Mr. Debris.

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Before you as a request from Kelly Ladotti, executive director of downtown Sanford for the temporary closure of several streets and a parking lot for street fest that is scheduled for October 10th, 2026. She's requesting the temporary closure of the Carthage Street parking lot starting Thursday, October 8th at 6am until Sunday, October 11th at 6pm and then she's also requesting the following streets to be closed portions of Carthage Street.

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steel street, Wicker Street, and St. Claire Court. From 6.30 a.m. until 7.30 p.m. on October 10th.

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And she is here to answer any questions that you may have. Are there any questions from Council

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for Ms. Jeffrey's or Ms. LaDoddy?

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Ms. Deff.

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On steel, where there's a parking lot behind the salon, vivid salon, and the Luca Panna.

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How will the people that work there get to that to park behind there?

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And I'm sure that'll be communicated to them.

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I mean, the salon is a new business there and they're not.

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We're familiar with the way that works.

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They are not. I've already been ever there to see them.

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Okay. That's great.

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So everybody will be communicated again with, so there's several methods of communication that we use email,

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a private Facebook page or WhatsApp. So all of that thing goes there and then they'll also be

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given printed and I go door to door leading up to that. So yes, they will have to utilize the

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private, I mean the public parking lot, which is the more a cold street lot for that day.

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Oh, that's good. That one will not be closed, the cold street light is, which is really

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the law that they can use on a daily basis anyways okay yeah thank you yes ma'am

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any other questions just to verify I know we've had this in the past everyone has been

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notified as of this application date nicer they have not they will be notified between now

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and then okay thank you yes sir any other questions I'll just make a quick comment this is obviously

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a signature event for our community we do between the city and our partners and DSI and

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Thank you so much for the work that you do, Kelly, and your board, to continue to have really great family fun events in our community, but to be also able through your sponsorships and the other work that you've done to be able to offer those activities for free for all of our families here.

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So, thank you so much, and I look forward to it.

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I can't wait, so, again, Mark your calendars.

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I hope everybody had it out there Saturday, October 10th for Streetfest.

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All right.

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With that then, I would seek a motion regarding these street closures.

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Motion by Mr. Ferguson. Seconded by Mr. Appanocho, any further discussion, all in favor, say aye.

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Aye. Any post? All right. We'll see you all on October 10th. Thank you, Mr.

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Goddard. Our next item is item 9B, which is to consider a resolution and support of the temporary closure of a portion of Charlotte Avenue for the Samford Farmers Market holiday

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artists in market and Mr. Fries is here for this item, this is. Thank you. This request comes

446
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:56,220
from Meredith Farb, the Sanford Farmers Market Manager. She's requesting the temporary closure

447
00:40:56,220 --> 00:41:03,520
of a portion of Charlotte Avenue on November 21, from 6 am until 1 pm. For this 2026 holiday

448
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,640
artists in market, she is also here to answer any questions that you may have. Are there any questions

449
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,560
for Mr. Fries or Ms. Farb?

450
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,240
So questions just a comment. Everybody out there get your

451
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,700
save your money so you can come out and spend it.

452
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,220
It's good to shop local during our holidays.

453
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,320
All right. Now, other questions then.

454
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:29,780
I would seek a motion regarding this free closure.

455
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,160
We've a motion by Mr. Akinocho.

456
00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:32,580
Good afternoon.

457
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Seconded by Mr. Petty.

458
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Any further discussion?

459
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,400
On favor say aye.

460
00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:37,000
Aye.

461
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:37,820
Any opposed?

462
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:38,780
All right.

463
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,240
We will see you all for our arson fair Saturday, November 21st.

464
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,340
Looking forward to seeing everybody there.

465
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:47,440
but for calendars of mark for that as well.

466
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,160
Our final street closure this evening for another phenomenal

467
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,560
community event is to consider a resolution and support

468
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,100
of the temporary closure of several streets for the

469
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,340
Sanford Christmas parade.

470
00:42:00,820 --> 00:42:02,760
This jeffries is here to lead us through this item.

471
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,240
I do know we have a few changes for this year,

472
00:42:05,660 --> 00:42:09,180
but we are looking forward to another amazing community activity

473
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:09,980
in this jeffries.

474
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,040
Yes, thank you.

475
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:13,620
There is an update in map in your packets.

476
00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:19,740
So before you is a request from downtown Samford and Kelly LaDaudi for this year's Christmas

477
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:25,660
parade, the street she is requesting to be closed are portions of Wicker Street, Carthage

478
00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:31,800
Street, More Street, Vance Street, and Steel Street on December 7th. She is requesting

479
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:38,460
portions of steel, Carthage, Vance, Wicker and More to be temporarily closed on December 7th

480
00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:43,540
between 430 p.m. and 10 p.m. and then the portion of Carthage between

481
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:49,120
more and steal. She's requesting to be closed from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. and she is still

482
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,380
here to answer questions that you have. Are there any questions from Council for

483
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:58,240
Mr. Jeffries or Mr. Daldy? No question. Madam here. Just a comment.

484
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Hard to believe we can let the Christmas parade it all rain. It's unbelievable. I'm very

485
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,720
decided to about it and one of the things that was so successful last year was the partnership

486
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:18,940
with Visit Samford with CBS 17 and the incredible way that that highlighted such

487
00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:24,100
you know the very best things about our community and really brought so much interest in coming

488
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:29,140
to Samford and seeing what we're all about and our city looked beautiful and so I was really

489
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:34,660
excited to see that that partnership is continuing and is looking for new ways to flourish

490
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:40,400
to grow. So thank you for including that information in our packet. Any other questions?

491
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:45,740
All right, seeing now then I would seek a motion regarding our temporary closure for streets

492
00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:51,160
for the Sanford. Motion by Mr. Ferguson, second by Mr. Petty, any further discussion?

493
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,140
All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, looking forward to that and nobody needs to

494
00:43:57,140 --> 00:44:02,500
mark their calendars for this. I'm sure because there are already March for Monday, December 7th

495
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:09,360
for our Christmas parade. Our next item is item 90, which is to consider an ordinance

496
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,480
in many of the annual operating budget for fiscal year 2627. It is a reappropriation

497
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:20,120
bill. I'm not a reappropriate ordinance. This Kelly is here to lead the

498
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:26,420
students item. Mayor, members of Council, you have before you are annual reappropriations

499
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:33,980
amendment and this is for several multiple funds and this is for when we don't receive,

500
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:37,740
we've appropriated the money in the prior year and don't receive the goods or the services

501
00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:42,960
prior to June 30th and so we re-appropriate it into the new year.

502
00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:47,360
You have this on-page is 144 and 145 of your packet.

503
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:58,360
The detail across the general fund is 5.5 million out of fund balance and insurance proceeds of 15,388.

504
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,960
The majority of this...

505
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Smuny is re-appropriating the 4.4 million incentive for the river birch project because of that contract that we had to pre-order in last fiscal year that was approved by council.

506
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:26,140
You have any other questions about those departments? I'd be glad to answer for the utility fund. You'll see the breakdown of the retained earnings by the different call centers with the appropriate departments.

507
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:33,520
And then, Chattam Park, wastewater treatment plant operations fund, you'll see the receipt that we received from Chattam Park,

508
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:38,200
$10,980, and how bad is appropriated to the department.

509
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:50,780
And then, for the Municipal Service District Fund, you'll see we've re-appropriated $7,120 to be spent on items that have not received as a June d'Arria.

510
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,100
I've got to answer any questions that was specific that you have.

511
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:58,720
So there are any questions from Council for Ms. Kelly, right?

512
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:01,980
Seeing none, then I would seek a motion regarding this ordinance.

513
00:46:02,660 --> 00:46:04,100
The motion by Mr. Ackonoso.

514
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,720
Seconded by Mr. Petty, any discussion on favor say aye?

515
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:10,200
Aye. Any opposed?

516
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,180
That item carries.

517
00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:16,020
And that brings us to nine E, which is to consider an ordinance

518
00:46:16,020 --> 00:46:21,000
and many in the annual operating budget for fiscal year 2627 for capital improvements.

519
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Yes, Mayor members of Council, you have before you an amendment operating, an annual operating

520
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,160
amendment for fiscal year 27.

521
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:40,240
This will appropriate $197,400 to water filtration for contractual services, $397,112 for

522
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:46,180
water capital improvements and $136,466 for sewer capital improvements.

523
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:52,960
Most of these are four contractual services and or capital construction. I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have.

524
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,980
Are there any questions for Ms. Kelly?

525
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:58,160
Seeing none, then I would seek a motion.

526
00:46:58,460 --> 00:46:59,340
So I'm going to make your so move.

527
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:04,380
The motion by Mr. Petty, seconded by Ms. Dabbs, any discussion on favor say aye?

528
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:04,760
Aye.

529
00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:05,840
Any opposed?

530
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,660
All right. That item carries.

531
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:11,740
Our next item is item 10, which is our cases for public hearing.

532
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:15,540
They will begin in, and we do have one in a few minutes.

533
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:19,600
So we will just get set up and we'll be ready to go

534
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,540
at about two minutes.

535
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,200
All

536
00:49:31,810 --> 00:49:34,110
right, at this time I'd like to go ahead

537
00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:36,070
with our case for public hearing.

538
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:39,330
It's item number 10 to consider a petition requesting

539
00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:45,430
continuous annexation of 27.169 plus or minus acres owned

540
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:47,290
by ruling tail investment LLC.

541
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:48,850
I'll open the public hearing.

542
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:51,950
Public hearing is now open and I will turn it over

543
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:52,630
to Mr. Montgomery.

544
00:49:53,150 --> 00:49:55,130
Yes, Mayor members, the council of this starts on your

545
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:57,310
agenda package page 148.

546
00:49:58,170 --> 00:50:03,270
We did receive a petition for annexation for 27.169 plus

547
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:10,990
minor acres of property at the intersection of Carthas, Dree, and Keller, and Dree, owned by

548
00:50:10,990 --> 00:50:17,310
Rollingdale Investment L.A.C., and if you look in front of you, you can see the four

549
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:22,630
parcels or portions of parcels that are being requested for annexation.

550
00:50:23,170 --> 00:50:28,730
The properties being requested for annexations, for the purposes of sewer connection,

551
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:33,250
for

552
00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:38,050
the care and tonight, you can consider adoption of this ordinance, annexing the property.

553
00:50:39,350 --> 00:50:47,170
It is a continuous by its proximity to Carthage colonies to the south already located within the

554
00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:54,070
city limits. In terms of consistency with the future land use plan, it is identified as suburban

555
00:50:54,070 --> 00:51:03,230
neighborhood type, which is intended to encourage low-to-moderate density residential areas that

556
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:13,490
Well, not urban in nature, these neighborhoods should be walkable and provide a high degree of transportation connectivity between individual neighborhoods and the surrounding thoroughfares.

557
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:18,270
It is currently located in the tramway fire protection district,

558
00:51:20,810 --> 00:51:30,130
and city services will be extended to the area of the design X and the same manner, and I'll not substantially the same basis that they are provided to the rest of the city.

559
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:35,050
In terms of water and sewer, there's a six-inch public water main line in the right

560
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:39,110
way of carcass street and an eight-inch public sewer collector line through the property.

561
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:43,990
Just to remind her that any and all utility extensions will need to be reviewed and approved by

562
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:44,670
TRIP River.

563
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:49,770
In terms of streets, it does have access to carcass street and any and all street connections

564
00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:53,870
will need to be reviewed by NCDOT and the Sanford Public Works Department.

565
00:51:54,870 --> 00:52:02,190
In terms of fire protection, fire protection would be provided out of both the central

566
00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:06,970
fire station, approximately 2.8 miles from the property, with the necessary response time

567
00:52:06,970 --> 00:52:13,210
six minutes and fire station number two would land Avenue approximately 3.1 miles from

568
00:52:13,210 --> 00:52:16,470
the property with the necessary response time of six minutes.

569
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:25,510
In terms of anticipated costs incurred by the city, the tax office shows that the value

570
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:29,970
of the tramway fire district is to be over a hundred and eighty twenty eight hundred.

571
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:43,360
In $22,000, the assessed value of the proposed annexation area is a little over $35,000, and the tramway department has an annual debt payment of just over $91,000.

572
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:55,620
So that estimated payment would be approximately $39.41. In terms of possible revenue generated, the assessed value of the annexed area above.

573
00:52:55,620 --> 00:53:00,720
and the city's current tax rate of 55.5 cents per 100 dollars.

574
00:53:00,980 --> 00:53:06,300
The cess valuation is anticipated a annual revenues of $1,975.

575
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:12,840
Just a reminder, typically the property is annexed.

576
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,460
The city has at 60 days to assign us zoning district.

577
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:22,360
However, the subject property is already located in the ETA and therefore does not need to be resound.

578
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:28,640
And the last the City Council chose to annex the properties that it would be assigned

579
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,900
to elect a reward for and I'll pause there for any questions.

580
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,220
The 30 questions for Mr. Montgomery.

581
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Mr. Taylor.

582
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:42,960
Thank you, David, for your presentation just to verify and just to reiterate, this is

583
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,860
contiguous and it's not a satellite and correction.

584
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:52,860
So this is a continuation of services without even going into the county, so that's something

585
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:57,120
that we don't see a lot off the stay in time because quite frankly, a lot of areas are

586
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,880
already cheered up. And also in the ETJ, this is one of the property that was in the

587
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,760
ETJ that would now be gone in the city. So I just think this, and I appreciate you pointing

588
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:12,360
it out. But the contentious nature of this, something we rarely see on this board, we use

589
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,420
the C annexation as a satellite.

590
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,840
And the other questions are comments. All right, we do have one sign up for our public hearing

591
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:28,260
this evening. It is our petition representative. Mr. Josh SIDO.

592
00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:29,860
It's window.

593
00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:36,460
Are there any questions for Mr. SIDO?

594
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:39,640
Thank you for being here, sir.

595
00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:45,400
All right. Any other questions or comments from Council before I close the public hearing?

596
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Seeing none. Public hearing for this item is now closed.

597
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:56,320
You have before you the consideration of an ordinance to extend the corporate limits of the city of Sanford.

598
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:03,540
with a recommendation to assign this property to Electoral Ward 4 and I would say commotion.

599
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,940
So moved Madam Mayor.

600
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:06,640
Commotion by Mr. Petty.

601
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,060
Second.

602
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,500
Second if I missed abs any further discussion.

603
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,540
All in favor say aye.

604
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Any opposed?

605
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,820
This property has now been annexed into the city congratulations.

606
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Thank you Mr. Montgomery.

607
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Our next item is our decisions on public hearings.

608
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:33,200
the first of which is item 11A, which is an application by Mark Luskowski to amend the existing

609
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:39,600
421 North Town Homes Conditional Zoning District through VISA Regional Design that was approved

610
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,740
via the site of plan certification plan through the Conditional Zoning Process in 2020 Corps.

611
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,420
And I'll let Ms. McNeill leave it through this item. Good evening everyone. Excuse me.

612
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:56,720
This starts on page 158 of your agenda packet, and is the mayor explained, this is a

613
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,940
planning board recommendation regarding our Greek request to amend the 421 North Towns

614
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:06,520
Conditional Zoning District to remove the secondary driveway that connects to Nixon drive

615
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,860
and to create a residential lot. The planning board met on August 18 after the joint public hearing

616
00:56:11,860 --> 00:56:17,000
was held and recommended by unanimous vote that the city council approved this amendment to the

617
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,260
existing Conditional Zoning District. Topics of discussion included the following.

618
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:35,920
The border called that in 2024 there were area residents who did not want the Nixon drive connection and the recreation of the existing residential lot with an S-12 zoning that matches the existing Glenwood subdivision appears to be reasonable.

619
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:51,920
In making this recommendation, the Board voted the proposed Zanymapa Amendment is consistent with the plan Stanley designation of suburban neighborhood, because the site is on the outskirts of a core urbanized area, attached to single family dwelling such as town homes are an encouraged residential use.

620
00:56:52,440 --> 00:57:00,240
The proposed density aligns with the recommended development density of 47 dwelling units per acre and sidewalks will be incorporated into the project.

621
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,860
City Council members should make two votes regarding this matter.

622
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:07,580
Sample motions are provided for your reference on page 159.

623
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,500
However, you're always welcome to draft a unique motion.

624
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,620
Also, you may acknowledge the ZoniMap Amendment is not consistent with the plan

625
00:57:14,620 --> 00:57:17,840
sailing land use plan, and still vote to approve the request.

626
00:57:18,420 --> 00:57:19,860
Are there any questions?

627
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,380
Are there any questions for Ms. McNeill?

628
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Does any of that need for hearing or anything public?

629
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,120
The public hearing was held on August 18th.

630
00:57:33,140 --> 00:57:33,720
How do you move that?

631
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:35,820
Any other questions?

632
00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:37,660
All right.

633
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,980
Seeing none of it before you, you do have to use boats to make on this property.

634
00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:47,800
The first of which is a vote regarding the long range land use plan consistency.

635
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,640
And I would seek a motion.

636
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,380
Madam Mayor.

637
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,100
Mr. Petty.

638
00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:53,460
I moved out of proposed on and out to the Mayor.

639
00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:55,220
is insisted with the planned family,

640
00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:56,740
designated of suburban neighborhoods

641
00:57:56,740 --> 00:57:58,640
because the site is on the outskirts

642
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,260
of a core urbanized area.

643
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:02,140
Attacks, single-family dwellings,

644
00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:05,140
towns and are encouraged, residential use.

645
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,900
They're proposed density aligns

646
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:08,000
with the recommended development

647
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,200
density of 47 dwelling units per acre

648
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400
and sidewalks would be incorporating to the project.

649
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Thank you for the motion, is there a second?

650
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:15,640
Second, Madam Mayor.

651
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,520
Seconded by Mr. Ferguson, any discussion?

652
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,580
All in favor say aye.

653
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,040
Any opposed?

654
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:28,260
I like that item that vote carries and that brings us to our second item on this decision

655
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:31,660
which is to consider an ordinance of many of the officials on the map of the city of

656
00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:34,400
Sanford.

657
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,420
I would add a minute.

658
00:58:35,620 --> 00:58:36,020
Miss Dabs.

659
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:42,960
I make the motion that the city council approve the proposed amendment to the 421 North Town

660
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:51,340
homes, conditional zoning district to remove the connecting drive to Nixon drive and create

661
00:58:51,340 --> 00:59:01,320
a .5 plus or minus acre lot, zone suburban neighborhood S in 12, with frontage on Nixon

662
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:07,140
drive within this area because it is reasonable and in the public interest since it would

663
00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:13,720
allow the development of a town home community between a four lane highway and a residential

664
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:20,500
single-family neighborhood and would recreate a single-family lot that is

665
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:26,680
comparable to the existing adjoining Glenwood Residential subdivision.

666
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:30,260
Thank you for that motion. Ms. Daphis, there are seconds. Second if I'm Mr.

667
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Aconotio. Any discussion on favor say aye? Aye. Any opposed? That is

668
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,800
our next decision is item 11B, which is an application by Ali Java to

669
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:50,000
resume a .74 acre lot developed with a multi-tinent commercial building, and I

670
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,360
will let Ms. Bigniel lead us through this item.

671
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:57,360
Good evening again everyone. The start some pages one page 169 of your agenda, and

672
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,960
regarding requests to resume an existing multi-tinent.

673
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Commercial building, addressed as 4141A47 South Korea Boulevard and 706 West Pearl Street to allow an apartment on the first floor.

674
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:19,740
The planning board met in August 18 after the joint public hearing was held and recommended by unanimous vote that the city council proved this rezoning request.

675
01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:22,140
Topics of discussion included the following.

676
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,240
The proposed apartment would be within the existing first floor building footprint at the

677
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:33,120
rear of the building and has a dedicated entrance exit that the second floor is for storage

678
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:39,680
at a space only with only access being pulled down at stairs and parking is currently allowed

679
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,240
along West Pearl Street even though it is a narrow public street.

680
01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:48,180
And making this recommendation the board voted that the proposed zoning map amendment is consistent

681
01:00:48,180 --> 01:01:00,300
with the plan-sandly landies placed type of neighborhood center, because it encourages upper-story residents and mixed-use buildings, which is similar to proposed residential unit on the first floor of this commercial building.

682
01:01:01,660 --> 01:01:04,920
Council members should make two beds regarding this matter.

683
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:10,660
Sample versions are provided for your reference on page 170 and you could always draft a unique motion.

684
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,900
Are there any questions?

685
01:01:12,220 --> 01:01:14,620
Are there any questions for Ms. McNeill?

686
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:17,720
Excuse me, was this the one again that had the park in across the street?

687
01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:19,580
And then we have taken control of the market.

688
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,140
Yes, there was one dedicated parking street opposite South

689
01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:25,240
when a boulevard behind the daycare.

690
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:28,580
So they got to walk on a boulevard to get to the parking, right?

691
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,140
If it did, they used that parking space, yes, sir.

692
01:01:32,260 --> 01:01:34,820
The planning boards discussion with the applicant,

693
01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:38,300
they really thought people were going to the person

694
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:41,640
who was going to park along Perl Street because it was more convenient.

695
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,960
Can they park on Perl Street?

696
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:45,820
They can park on Perl Street right now.

697
01:01:45,820 --> 01:01:48,040
that's a public street is just simply narrow.

698
01:01:48,580 --> 01:01:50,080
Why do you say right now?

699
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:50,860
I'm sorry.

700
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,800
Why do you say right now, will it change in the future?

701
01:01:55,660 --> 01:01:59,360
No, because it's theoretically possible that the City of San Francisco Post

702
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,040
no parking street signs on that street.

703
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:08,000
If there was a problem that caused them to do so, so I cannot guarantee that people will

704
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,040
always be able to park on West Girl Street, but at this time they can.

705
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,000
Because if they come down home and turn right on Pearl Street, they're right there in the street is real narrow, correct?

706
01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:21,340
Yes, Pearl Street is narrow all the way through. It's a smaller Older Street.

707
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,560
Yeah, I remember, yes.

708
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,080
It's only, you know, it can't take two cars at the center. One has to park.

709
01:02:26,660 --> 01:02:29,680
But the other one to go. That's how narrow that movie is.

710
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,740
It is a narrow street, isn't it?

711
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,520
There are any other questions.

712
01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:37,290
All right.

713
01:02:37,550 --> 01:02:40,810
Just to comment, I think there's already parking that exists.

714
01:02:40,990 --> 01:02:43,330
I mean, active people parking.

715
01:02:43,330 --> 01:02:51,090
They're already not set up not dimers to it. I mean, it's not really it's it's not really a lot

716
01:02:51,090 --> 01:02:53,570
I mean and Ms. McNeill or maybe

717
01:02:53,570 --> 01:03:00,590
Mr. Montgomery or Mr. Mayor somebody we do have an upcoming change in our

718
01:03:01,850 --> 01:03:05,650
Rules pertaining to what type of parking were permitted to require so

719
01:03:06,490 --> 01:03:10,870
It's so one could speak to that just because this is a change that is coming regardless

720
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:16,090
that will affect our ability to regulate this parking of any kind.

721
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:17,090
That's correct.

722
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:20,870
What Mayor Salman is kind of referencing is HB162,

723
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:27,250
which was passed in both the state house and state senate almost unanimously.

724
01:03:27,610 --> 01:03:31,270
I think it had like three no votes total in Governor Sign signed

725
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:34,910
in the law earlier in July.

726
01:03:34,990 --> 01:03:37,870
I believe that effective January 1st,

727
01:03:37,870 --> 01:03:50,870
2027 cities and counties across the state with a couple of exceptions will no longer be able to enforce minimum parking standards of any kind regardless of use or occupancy so as of January 1st

728
01:03:52,050 --> 01:03:56,130
Throughout the state minimum parking standards will no longer be enforceable

729
01:03:56,810 --> 01:04:05,070
So this conversation would essentially be irrelevant in just a couple of months and that we will not be able to require a parking of any kind anyway

730
01:04:05,070 --> 01:04:11,050
way. I understand that, but how many things is that when you turn off Pearl Street is

731
01:04:11,050 --> 01:04:14,690
upturned down that road before my truck, and then if a car is right there, you have the

732
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:19,570
Swerve, and then you may hear the car, and like, Mr. Akhenosha said, if a car is coming this way,

733
01:04:19,950 --> 01:04:24,110
when you have to stop, and if someone is two or three cars are turning off Hornet,

734
01:04:24,350 --> 01:04:28,210
right there on Pearl Street, traffic will be backed up, and I know that little area is bad for

735
01:04:29,010 --> 01:04:30,850
Reigns and whatnot. Absolutely.

736
01:04:31,970 --> 01:04:35,730
I understand what the government is saying, but in a game studio, I look at the state

737
01:04:35,730 --> 01:04:36,030
department.

738
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:41,250
I think in this case, yes, I completely agree that is less than ideal to park across the

739
01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:46,830
street, and then have to have the district's cross-horn or boulevard, and in this case

740
01:04:46,830 --> 01:04:53,470
cross-free, on-street parking on-purl street is safer and more practical. I will just say

741
01:04:53,470 --> 01:04:57,410
because Mr. Java must acquire off-street parking,

742
01:04:57,870 --> 01:05:00,630
and right now our parking standards are in effect,

743
01:05:01,070 --> 01:05:03,290
he must acquire off-street parking

744
01:05:03,290 --> 01:05:07,550
of at least one parking space within 1,000 feet of the site.

745
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:10,990
He is just compelled that that's really his only avenue

746
01:05:10,990 --> 01:05:14,650
to obtain the one parking space so that he can actually use this.

747
01:05:15,070 --> 01:05:18,830
But in just a couple months, I suspect if he asked him,

748
01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:20,470
he's probably going to most people

749
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:22,370
that use that building or in a park on Pearl Street,

750
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:24,350
because that's where they've been parking right now.

751
01:05:24,690 --> 01:05:26,210
So, but I think it's more of a formality

752
01:05:26,210 --> 01:05:28,590
to satisfy the minimum parking standards

753
01:05:28,590 --> 01:05:30,490
that we have in place at the moment.

754
01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:33,490
Did you give him permission to use that parking lot?

755
01:05:33,850 --> 01:05:34,170
That's correct.

756
01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:37,150
He has a signed written parking agreement

757
01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:38,110
with the property owner.

758
01:05:38,530 --> 01:05:38,630
So.

759
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:39,730
Mr. Honell showed me this.

760
01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:42,610
My concern before was about safety.

761
01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:43,890
It was not in person.

762
01:05:44,050 --> 01:05:45,110
I don't know Mr. Java.

763
01:05:45,390 --> 01:05:45,930
I don't know him.

764
01:05:46,090 --> 01:05:48,330
I don't have any dealing with him or anybody.

765
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:51,050
But I was just concerning about safety

766
01:05:51,050 --> 01:05:56,470
because that property is on the major road and has no frontage.

767
01:05:56,930 --> 01:06:01,240
Has no frontage whatsoever, and it's next door to Honobullivat.

768
01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:06,510
So my concern is even people crossing on that road,

769
01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:08,390
Honobullivat is the BZ road.

770
01:06:09,350 --> 01:06:13,830
So if you guys are saying, this is what this God state government is,

771
01:06:13,950 --> 01:06:16,230
I have no personal animosity at all,

772
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:19,850
but I just want to be sure that this council is making a decision

773
01:06:19,850 --> 01:06:28,010
for sixty. One person being hurt on that road is too many for me. So I just want to be sure

774
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:34,430
that. That's the recommendation from the from the planning board coming to the city council.

775
01:06:34,890 --> 01:06:39,310
But I just want to I want to be sure all of those things are put into consideration.

776
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:42,830
Not a personal, but I just care about the safety of the people.

777
01:06:42,830 --> 01:06:43,390
Of course.

778
01:06:43,630 --> 01:06:43,970
Thank you.

779
01:06:44,090 --> 01:06:44,530
Mr. Taylor.

780
01:06:45,610 --> 01:06:45,890
Okay.

781
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:47,790
Any other questions or comments?

782
01:06:48,190 --> 01:06:48,770
Just a comment.

783
01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:58,590
There is the traffic light right on the blocked little south that

784
01:07:00,830 --> 01:07:02,190
they could cross.

785
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:05,110
When it's, I mean, you wouldn't.

786
01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:10,150
You mean, realistically, you're practically wouldn't like run across one of Boulevard

787
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:10,890
Four lanes.

788
01:07:11,530 --> 01:07:13,850
But at the traffic light when the traffic light is.

789
01:07:13,850 --> 01:07:18,760
and there are hundreds of parking spaces throughout downtown that people could park at

790
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:25,870
if it appears to be unsafe as well. So I don't think we can control where anybody parks

791
01:07:25,870 --> 01:07:28,690
and I think that's sort of the notion of that of that bill.

792
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:46,960
That's right. That's right. It's in this case, it's one apartment, but two, I think, the change in the parking standards by the state legislature is going to generate more compact, walkable development. And so again, this may not help right now in the immediate term.

793
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:58,040
But you theoretically will start to see more pedestrian infrastructure for like street crossings, you know, more specifically place parking lots done by private enterprise.

794
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:03,520
things like that that will, you know, there will be a market response and a NCDOT response

795
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:09,820
to kind of design around and accommodate those changes with the parking standards going

796
01:08:09,820 --> 01:08:10,120
away.

797
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,220
Did you have any other question?

798
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:23,760
Yeah, I would just ask you, I could only remember that I would call it the traffic pass

799
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:30,140
or Honobulin, but anyway, do we have a traffic light that stop people from crossing,

800
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:35,140
crossing, crossing, crossing, crossing on Honobulin, but I couldn't remember that.

801
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,200
That's my memory, my memory.

802
01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:43,030
In terms of pedestrian crossing?

803
01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:44,310
Yes, pedestrian crossing.

804
01:08:44,690 --> 01:08:46,890
I don't think there's one on Wall Street.

805
01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:51,350
So the closest one would be, oh, with her street.

806
01:08:51,350 --> 01:08:57,290
Okay, I just, because I think somebody was talking about a traffic like traffic like there's

807
01:08:57,290 --> 01:09:01,410
not going to go to a pedestrian, it's only for cars that's fast.

808
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:05,750
Any other questions or comments?

809
01:09:08,030 --> 01:09:17,110
All right, you do have to vote before you regarding this item, the first of which is the

810
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:23,190
statement on long-range land use plan consistency and you do see some sample motions on

811
01:09:23,190 --> 01:09:29,250
page 170. And I would seek a motion.

812
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:30,730
Madam Mayor, Mr. Petty.

813
01:09:31,150 --> 01:09:32,790
I moved out of proposed on a map.

814
01:09:32,850 --> 01:09:34,510
The me and me is consistent with the plan,

815
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:37,330
Stanley, land use, plan type, and neighborhood center,

816
01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:40,150
because it encourages upper story residences and

817
01:09:40,150 --> 01:09:42,990
mixed use buildings, which is similar to the proposed

818
01:09:42,990 --> 01:09:45,950
residential units on the first floor of this commercial building.

819
01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:46,910
Thank you, Mr. Petty.

820
01:09:47,050 --> 01:09:47,770
Is there a second?

821
01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:52,410
Second, if I'm Mr. Taylor any discussion on favor say aye?

822
01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:54,010
All right. Any opposed?

823
01:09:54,010 --> 01:09:55,470
I'm just saying opposed.

824
01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:57,710
We have two opposed.

825
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:59,810
Do you have that madam court?

826
01:10:01,850 --> 01:10:07,030
Um, and that brings us to our second vote, which is to consider an ordinance and many

827
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:09,090
officials owning map of the city of Sanford.

828
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:12,410
And you see the motions again on pay sample motions on page 170.

829
01:10:13,570 --> 01:10:14,660
And I would seek a motion.

830
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:18,010
Madam, I want to go ahead, Chris.

831
01:10:18,690 --> 01:10:18,930
Okay.

832
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:19,410
All right.

833
01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:19,950
I'll do it.

834
01:10:19,950 --> 01:10:30,230
I make a motion that the City Council approve the proposed zoning map amendment for general from general commercial C2

835
01:10:30,230 --> 01:10:48,110
to general commercial conditionals zoning district C2-C because it is reasonable and in the public interest to allow a residential residential unit within the existing commercial building in addition to the uses already allowed

836
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:51,450
in the general commercial zoning district.

837
01:10:52,150 --> 01:10:54,390
We have a motion as there are seconds.

838
01:10:55,010 --> 01:10:57,330
Seconded by Mr. Taylor, any discussion?

839
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:59,530
All in favor say aye.

840
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:59,990
Aye.

841
01:11:00,290 --> 01:11:01,010
Any opposed?

842
01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:01,690
Opposed.

843
01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:02,990
Got that, madam.

844
01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:03,490
Of course.

845
01:11:04,130 --> 01:11:06,910
And that zoning amendment passes.

846
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:10,110
Our next decision is item 11c,

847
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:14,390
which is an application by Jones and

848
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:19,330
I'm sorry I apologize for not saying that correctly each time engineering PLLC to

849
01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:23,950
resume a vacant 10 point one nine acre vacant track of land with furniture on West

850
01:11:23,950 --> 01:11:27,710
Rose Street and Mr. Hackett's here to lead us through the site and welcome

851
01:11:27,710 --> 01:11:29,010
Mr. Hackett.

852
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:33,770
Good evening madam mayor council you'll find this information on page 173

853
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:40,330
we got a request to resume vacant track of West off of West Rose Street from

854
01:11:40,330 --> 01:11:45,990
were in six to MF-12 to allow the development of multi-family apartment community.

855
01:11:46,690 --> 01:11:54,070
Application by Jones and Kmartson Engineering, PLLC2 Reson, a vacant 10-point-19-acre vacant

856
01:11:54,070 --> 01:12:02,890
track of land, was funded on West Road Street, from Urban neighborhood to MF-12 to allow

857
01:12:02,890 --> 01:12:05,230
the development of multi-family apartment community.

858
01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:12,840
The planning board met on 18 August after the joint public hearing was held and recommended

859
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,500
by unanimous vote that the city council proved this rezoning request.

860
01:12:18,180 --> 01:12:20,080
Topics of this question included the following.

861
01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:25,320
The request appears to be reasonable based on the surrounding land uses of residential,

862
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,160
single-family homes and apartments and the vacant landlocked parcels to the north

863
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,500
service a buffer between the subject property and the existing houses on the last

864
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:39,680
industry. In making this recommendation, the board voter that the proposed zoning

865
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,420
map amendment is consistent with the plan,

866
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,060
assembly, large, long range, plan designation of urban neighborhoods, because it

867
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:53,560
includes multi-family dwellings as they propose land use and includes multi-family

868
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,060
residential zoning as they propose zoning district.

869
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:01,500
The city council members should

870
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:05,900
make two boats regarding this matter. Sample motions are provided for your reference

871
01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:12,420
on page 174. However, you are always welcome to draft a unique motion if preferred. Also,

872
01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:16,640
you may acknowledge that the zoning map amendment is not consistent with the plans

873
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,900
and the land use plan and still vote to approve this request. Are there any questions?

874
01:13:22,220 --> 01:13:25,060
Are there any questions from Council for Mr. Hackett?

875
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:31,180
All right, seeing none, then we do need to make two votes regarding this item, the first

876
01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:34,840
of which is a vote regarding the long-range land use plan consistency.

877
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,060
You see the sample versions on 174, Mr. Petty.

878
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,060
You know, Madam Mayor, I moved out of proposed on a map.

879
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,060
I mean, it is consistent with the plan,

880
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:47,580
Sandley, long-range plan, designation of urban neighborhoods,

881
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,780
because it includes multi-family dwellings.

882
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,520
As opposed to land use indicate,

883
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,640
I mean, it includes multi-family residential zoning,

884
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,360
as opposed to zoning district.

885
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,440
You heard the motion is there a second.

886
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,360
Second.

887
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,300
Second, if I'm Ms. Dabbs, any discussion?

888
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,300
All in favor say aye.

889
01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:07,840
Aye.

890
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:08,700
Any opposed?

891
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:09,900
All right.

892
01:14:10,060 --> 01:14:13,440
That item carries that brings us to the second vote, which is to consider an ordinance

893
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:16,040
amending the official zoning map of the city of Sanford.

894
01:14:16,540 --> 01:14:18,620
Sample motions are on 174.

895
01:14:20,130 --> 01:14:20,870
Madame Mayor.

896
01:14:20,970 --> 01:14:21,570
Ms. Dabbs.

897
01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:27,030
I make a motion that the city council approve the proposed zoning map, a amendment from

898
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:34,170
to MF-12 because it is reasonable and in the public interest since it adjoins existing residential

899
01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:40,410
development, apartments, and single family homes, and has access to public water sewer

900
01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:41,130
and streets.

901
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:43,670
Thank you for that motion, Ms. Dabes, is there a second?

902
01:14:43,710 --> 01:14:44,170
Second, Madam.

903
01:14:44,490 --> 01:14:46,530
Second, and by Mr. Petty, any discussion?

904
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:48,690
All in favor say aye.

905
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:50,190
Any opposed?

906
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:51,410
Right.

907
01:14:51,490 --> 01:14:52,250
That item carries.

908
01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:53,650
Thank you for that.

909
01:14:53,650 --> 01:14:59,950
And our final decision on our public hearings is item 11D, which is the staff initiative.

910
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:20,140
Thank you so much. Good afternoon, Madam Mayor. Members of Council. And city staff, for this item starts on page 177 of your agenda packet.

911
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:29,700
As you may remember, we have a staff initiated text amendment brought before you a few weeks ago to amend the permitted use matrix,

912
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:39,700
with an article four of the UDO that would allow the land use of fire, sheriff, and emergency services by right in all zoning districts.

913
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:46,740
Currently, that land use requires a special use permit in any residential zoning districts and the neighborhood

914
01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:50,600
commercial conditionals zone, or assuming the neighborhood commercial zoning district.

915
01:15:51,520 --> 01:16:01,220
This UDO text member would simply change that status from an S along the first half of that row to P for permitted by right.

916
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:08,560
This proposed change stems from several rural fire departments in the county seeking to expand their facilities

917
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:16,240
in most cases just adding an extra bay for an additional fire truck, having to amend their existing

918
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,760
SEPs or in the case of some of the older fire departments that predate the UDO having to get

919
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,760
a special use permit in the first place. As you can imagine, out in kind of the rural agricultural

920
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:32,860
areas in the county, it's all residential zoning out there. Planning staff felt that this was

921
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:38,640
unnecessary burden on rural fire departments, volunteer fire departments, in order to provide

922
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,020
necessary public safety services to lead county residents. And therefore, we put together

923
01:16:43,020 --> 01:16:47,840
this text amendment in front of the GPC for consideration a few months ago. We were given the

924
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:53,740
OK to move forward at that point. The lead county commissioners voted to approve this text amendment

925
01:16:53,740 --> 01:17:02,640
on August 17th, and I'll show just for your edification and the public too. This also would

926
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:07,260
have some impacts for city fire departments to the Stanford Station number one and number

927
01:17:07,260 --> 01:17:12,640
three are currently in residential zoning districts. So if they were to ever expand or

928
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:16,780
modify their building in some way it's the right way possible they would have to go through this

929
01:17:16,780 --> 01:17:22,060
special amendment process or the reason they're site. This would just simply allow them to

930
01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:28,180
expand or modify their site without having to go through the steps of a special

931
01:17:28,180 --> 01:17:29,260
from it were rezoning.

932
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:34,820
So on August 18th, after the Joint Public Hearing was held, the Sanford Planning Board convened

933
01:17:34,820 --> 01:17:39,040
and recommended by unanimous vote, that city council approved this text amendment with no

934
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,760
substantive discussion of note beyond a broad consensus that this text amendment makes sense

935
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,320
and is reasonable to ensure public safety.

936
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:52,880
And I do have some slides that show other counties and how they approach fire departments

937
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,600
and EMS bases in their districts.

938
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,120
Happy to go over them if you'd like.

939
01:17:57,340 --> 01:17:59,480
I went through them at the last public hearing,

940
01:17:59,660 --> 01:18:01,340
but I will stop there for any questions you might have.

941
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,280
Are there any questions from council?

942
01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:05,960
All right, seeing none.

943
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,460
Thank you, Mr. Meyers.

944
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,720
You have a for you.

945
01:18:08,820 --> 01:18:09,820
The consideration of an ordinance

946
01:18:09,820 --> 01:18:12,220
of many new officials on the map of the city's efforts.

947
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:14,180
Now that I'm here, so move.

948
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,400
Promotion by Mr. Ferguson.

949
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:15,900
Take a minute.

950
01:18:16,180 --> 01:18:17,900
Second, about Mr. Petty, any discussion?

951
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:19,580
All in favor say aye.

952
01:18:19,900 --> 01:18:20,040
Aye.

953
01:18:20,420 --> 01:18:21,060
Any opposed?

954
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:21,860
All right.

955
01:18:21,860 --> 01:18:29,800
I'm very thank you. Thank you for the work of our planning staff. That was a lot of work that came through here this evening, so thank you so much for your attention.

956
01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:43,560
We do have a close session this evening. So at this time I'll go around and see if there's any other business to brought forward before the body before we move into our close session now begin with Ms. Devs.

957
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:59,560
I wish everybody a happy Labor Day this weekend that be safe, have fun, and have a hot dog, hamburger, and if you want some hamburger, you can go to the farmers market because there are meat vendors there.

958
01:19:01,740 --> 01:19:09,540
I just echo what Ms. Dav said about, you know, I have to say I'm happy that I was a Labour day and I'll still go to the farmers market.

959
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:14,140
We went last week and got some cheap cumbers and they would probably the best cheap cumbers we've had in the wild.

960
01:19:14,740 --> 01:19:17,740
I encourage everyone to get happy and sit down.

961
01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:20,540
Mr. Ignosio.

962
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:22,720
Thank you, sir. Mr. Petty.

963
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:28,520
I just met a mayor. I didn't get the home and go to the farmers market, but I did get the attendants tonight out.

964
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,900
So I'm going to give a shout out to Mr. Nubi and the rest of the folks that made it great.

965
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,220
So I had a bad evening.

966
01:19:35,860 --> 01:19:37,220
Thanks, sir. Mr. Taylor.

967
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,280
Yeah, just a couple of comments.

968
01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:44,480
One I would like to address the honorees that we honoured tonight.

969
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,880
But I have a special meeting for me personally because watch Carson grow up.

970
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,100
And the whole family was introduced to the whole family.

971
01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:59,620
It's one of the first families I ever met in the Sanford.

972
01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:02,020
In my sophomore year at Campbell,

973
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:04,560
Hope Hall, who is Carson's aunt.

974
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,880
That was here tonight from Charleston.

975
01:20:07,580 --> 01:20:12,320
She was a great friend of mine, met my sophomore year.

976
01:20:12,860 --> 01:20:18,400
And just to know that it's just an extension of our staff

977
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,300
and you look at what Scott Peterson did.

978
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:28,920
When I found out about Carson's injury, I just heard it was a former staff member from

979
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,320
CSF, and it could have been any to 300 to 400 plus people that we have here because I

980
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:38,640
think everybody has the same heart that Scott has. But I knew it immediately, who it was,

981
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:50,360
because it just, it was just a feeling that I had no one, by no one here and no one how he

982
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:58,020
and July 20th he served the locator and the the whole family. And just to incredible

983
01:20:58,020 --> 01:21:05,080
human being and it's just again an extension of what our staff is. And secondly, Mary Ashburn

984
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:12,920
I had an opportunity right after the war two we had a fire at its place that had $46 and a

985
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:19,360
three bedroom to Beth house and that was really my first introduction to her because we had to get

986
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:28,400
Those aren't the remaining animals that did not perish in that far placed and by six o'clock at that that even we had placed 26 animals

987
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:40,000
and all because of her and she as she was a great example and there's been a many family that's been rewarded with a pet because

988
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:47,600
Mary took the energy in the time and the love and a passion to place that animal in a great environment

989
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:56,220
I had obviously served a plate of board and so as a little funny joke we my address is

990
01:21:56,220 --> 01:22:02,360
six or five and his address is six or five so I get just meal a lot so I would always

991
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,600
like I didn't mind it because he would get my triangle business girl and the personal

992
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:13,300
ownership was good because he got rid of the four I got it but we would always joke and

993
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:16,960
it always gave you an opportunity to find out how women pauses could want how

994
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:23,680
was the one and of course we subsequently took action and adopted a language that was a

995
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:29,060
complaint driven product and it was a sport that good we have had no complaints so if the

996
01:22:29,060 --> 01:22:29,980
policies working good.

997
01:22:30,210 --> 01:22:38,390
But it also initiated an activity level that took some burden off of the Mary Ashwoods of the World.

998
01:22:38,830 --> 01:22:42,550
And more people started fostering families and fostering animals.

999
01:22:43,130 --> 01:22:51,250
And that has gone through today. So I want to just, I'm grateful that we took the time to recognize her and that risky community.

1000
01:22:51,870 --> 01:22:59,330
I do have one third thing, we have, as you know, we have a policy that is enacted by the

1001
01:22:59,930 --> 01:23:02,990
county, Hannah and our animal control.

1002
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:09,470
And later at recent activity, I think it's time for us to have an update from our health

1003
01:23:09,470 --> 01:23:10,150
survivor director.

1004
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:12,430
He came to our board.

1005
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:17,250
I think he came to our board that Rebecca was still a city councilwoman, and I think it was

1006
01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:21,230
prior to COVID, so that means it's been at least seven days.

1007
01:23:21,230 --> 01:23:27,430
years. They're managing our lease program, but they also take in the animals that they

1008
01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:31,390
haven't seen it. I would like to know more information about how they'll be treated as well.

1009
01:23:31,790 --> 01:23:37,190
So I think it's just good to have a workshop with no hidden agendas. Just put the facts out there.

1010
01:23:37,370 --> 01:23:41,550
Let's see how we're no one. And it's time for us to have that accountability.

1011
01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:47,790
So I'm just like to add that to our workshop. Whatever's the accommodate from Mr. King's

1012
01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:50,010
I mean, where's different hats?

1013
01:23:50,410 --> 01:23:58,430
The last time he came before, so he came with the appeal with, given us an update on the appeal and I would like to just have the same one out of us.

1014
01:23:58,690 --> 01:23:59,610
Thank you, Mr. Taylor.

1015
01:24:01,310 --> 01:24:03,490
You have any other items to get?

1016
01:24:04,090 --> 01:24:04,310
Mr. Harrison.

1017
01:24:04,630 --> 01:24:05,590
No, I mean, Mr. Jagward.

1018
01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:11,570
I just wanted to mention, I don't know, Mayor, and Councilor Mayor was great to see one of our third year retirees on here tonight.

1019
01:24:11,950 --> 01:24:17,110
I have a chance to work with him in many years, and it doesn't surprise me what he did inside.

1020
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:19,110
Just to go to see that.

1021
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:20,110
Thank you.

1022
01:24:20,150 --> 01:24:20,790
Thank you.

1023
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:26,650
It was a, it was a really nice opportunity this evening to recognize some amazing members in our community.

1024
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:35,990
So, and, you know, how touching it is to see how many folks came out to support our families who've been working so hard.

1025
01:24:36,010 --> 01:24:38,450
It was just wonderful to see such a great community turnout.

1026
01:24:39,070 --> 01:24:41,970
I do want to thank our parks department.

1027
01:24:41,970 --> 01:24:48,790
We wrapped up our summer concert series, and it was wonderful to be back at the depot, and

1028
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:54,510
to see so many of our community members come out, week after week, and here's some great music

1029
01:24:54,510 --> 01:24:55,370
all throughout the summer.

1030
01:24:55,570 --> 01:25:00,050
So thank you to our Parks Department, to our Public Works Department, and to all of our first

1031
01:25:00,050 --> 01:25:04,150
responders for keeping everything looking beautiful, for keeping everybody safe, and providing

1032
01:25:04,150 --> 01:25:08,130
those fun opportunities for community connection all summer long.

1033
01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:37,290
We did wrap up our national night out on Saturday, and I had a wonderful time visiting with our folks and our neighborhoods and it was great to see Mr. Petty out there and our neighborhood folks and just wish everybody again a happy labor day, be safe and this usher's in the start of our fall season and all of the great works that happen in our schools, in our communities, our harvest sales and our opportunities to really think about

1034
01:25:38,130 --> 01:25:47,850
You know, hunkering down, going into our holiday season. So with that, have a great, a great holiday weekend, and I would seek our motion to go into closed session.

1035
01:25:48,590 --> 01:26:03,470
Thank you, Mayor. We need a motion to go into closed session and according to North Carolina General Statute 143-318.11, a three, four, and five, to consult with an attorney employee to retain by the public body to preserve the attorney client privilege.

1036
01:26:03,470 --> 01:26:10,590
to discuss matters relating to the location or expansion of industries or other businesses in the area served by the whole body.

1037
01:26:10,770 --> 01:26:19,770
And to instruct the public body staff on the position of be taken in negotiating the price of the material terms of the contractor proposed contract for the acquisition of real property.

1038
01:26:20,690 --> 01:26:22,710
You have heard these statutes is their motion.

1039
01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:23,710
So move, Madam Mayor.

1040
01:26:23,810 --> 01:26:25,290
Promotion by Mr. Petty.

1041
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:27,530
Seconded by Ms. Dabs, any discussion?

1042
01:26:27,530 --> 01:26:30,670
Well, in favor say aye, any post?

1043
01:26:31,310 --> 01:26:32,150
We are in close session.

1044
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:37,590
They'll be no further votes coming before this body when we as at our close session.

1045
01:26:37,730 --> 01:26:38,070
So, good evening.