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[0:40] The appointed hour of six o'clock, having arrived, the board will come to order. Invocation by Mr. Stump. Pledge of allegiance by Mr. Crowe.
[0:54] We ask you to bless our same and county employees and their families. We ask you to protect our first responders and military around the world in harm's way. We ask you to help us make wise decisions this evening to better help and foster goodwill toward our constituents of same and county.
[1:11] please help us accomplish the hard task at hand and the decisions that we
[1:16] make. Help us to be humble as we do so. All this we ask in your name is Jesus
[1:21] Amen. I pledge allegiance to your flag of the United States of America and to
[1:28] the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty,
[1:37] The car could call the roll.
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[2:02] Present.
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[2:08] Lathan.
[2:08] Madonia, McGuire, Medinal, Miller, Raider, Scafe, Shackman, Shepard, Small, Stump, Thomas,
[2:23] Chumlin, Trux, and the Chairman's President, 26th President, three absent.
[2:28] Thank you, Mr. Clerk.
[2:31] A few housekeeping announcements.
[2:33] We are not televised this evening, but we are broadcasting live.
[2:37] Please remember to speak into your mic, even if you're just making a motion.
[2:41] Please remember to do that.
[2:43] All members should have received our proposed new rules of operation.
[2:49] The plan of the Edhock Rules Committee is to vote on those rules at the November meeting.
[2:56] And those rules will go into effect at the December meeting.
[3:01] Any changes or suggestions people have should be made in the next month's time.
[3:05] And I'm told by our IT team that our visual version of our broadcast is looking better and better.
[3:15] So our plan as discussed with the rules committee today is to implement the visual broadcast at the December meeting after we've adopted the new rules at the November meeting.
[3:25] So that will give Mr. Kamen one month in hair and makeup to prepare for the December meeting.
[3:32] All right,
[3:38] proceeding in the regular order, proclamations, the chairs are aware of no proclamations, minutes, motion by Mr.
[3:44] Adonio seconded by Mr. Del Journal for the approval of the minutes of the September 9th, 2025 meeting on favor of saying aye.
[3:51] Opposed no, the ayes have it, minutes are approved, correspondence, motion by Mr. Del Journal seconded by Mr. Adonio to place correspondence on file with the clerk on favor of saying aye.
[4:00] Opposed no, the ayes have it, correspondence will be placed on file with the clerk.
[4:03] Resolution, resolution number one, Mr. Clerk.
[4:04] Resolution 1, resolution approving the award of a construction contract for County Contractors Inc. of Quincy, for the replacement of a structure on Bach Road and Williams Township and the amount of $497,000, $14,000 and $0.90.
[4:18] Motion by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Casey to place resolution 1 before the board.
[4:22] Questions, comments and members of the board on resolution 1. Seeing none, the clerk will call the roll.
[4:26] Ears, Kanman, Constan, Dapsco, Deener, Delzorno, Douglas Williams, Forsyth, Fulgenzi,
[4:38] Gaiten, I Crel, Lathen, Madonia, McGuire, Metinol, Miller, Rader, Scafe,
[4:48] Shackman, Shepard, Small, Stump, Thomas, Chumlin, Truex, all 25 approved.
[4:59] All those voting have been voting in the perimeter resolution, once adopted, Resolution 2, Mr. Clark.
[5:04] Number 2, Resolution approving the fiscal year 26 purchase of a 25 John Deere PE tier backhoe loader from Martin Equipment of Springfield, Illinois, in the amount of 169,2008 hours,
[5:16] First, utilizing a source-well joint purchasing contract.
[5:20] Motion by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Mennon, all the pleasure resolution two before the board.
[5:24] Questions, council members, the board on resolution two.
[5:28] Seeing none, Mr. Moodone, you do you have a motion?
[5:30] I mean that the roll call vote for resolution one stands for roll call vote of resolution two.
[5:35] All in favor, taken by by saying aye.
[5:38] Opposed, no.
[5:38] The aye is having the resolution two is adopted, resolution three, Mr. Clerk.
[5:41] Number 3, 2,025-16, Alex Bruno, 7,500 block of Oakcrust Road Riverton, running a rezoning
[5:49] in variances.
[5:50] Motion by Mr. Menon, second by Mr. Raider, Clay Trotterson-3 before the board.
[5:55] We're now entering the zoning portion of our meeting, and it's our policy to ask if there
[6:00] are members of the audience who wish to speak in opposition to the proposed zoning, in opposition.
[6:07] Seeing none of the members of the audience who feel it's necessary to speak and support
[6:09] the proposed zoning.
[6:11] Seeing none, Mr. Vandenhall, do you have a motion?
[6:13] Since there are no objectors, I move.
[6:14] We wait the staff report.
[6:15] Is there objection?
[6:16] Without objection, so ordered.
[6:18] Questions, comments, and members of the board on the resolution?
[6:22] Seeing none?
[6:23] On the question, all those in favor of adopting resolution three,
[6:26] and granting the zoning of signify by saying aye.
[6:28] Opposed, no.
[6:29] The eyes have it.
[6:30] The zoning has agreed to.
[6:32] Resolution four, Mr. Clerk.
[6:33] Number four, resolution approving a grant application for
[6:35] community resources from the Illinois Association of Community Action
[6:39] in agencies for the Employment Barrier Reduction Program and the amount of $40,250.
[6:45] Motion by Mr. Dabs, second by Mr. Shack, and the place resolution 4 before the board.
[6:50] Questions, comments, members of the board?
[6:52] Mr. Dalgona.
[6:53] Mr. Chairman, I move that we consolidate resolutions 5 through 20 and with 4.
[7:00] Second by Mr. Medonia.
[7:02] Mr. Clerk, will you please read resolutions 5 through 20?
[7:04] Number six, resolution approving the red five already, right?
[7:09] Five, where did four?
[7:11] Red four, yes.
[7:12] So five through 20.
[7:13] Number five, resolution approving the procurement of goods and
[7:15] our services for the Department of Public Health from the animal emergency clinic of Springfield
[7:20] for the purpose of emergency veterinarian services for animal control in the amount of 55,000.
[7:25] Number six, resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the Department
[7:28] of Public Health from the animal protective league for the purpose of spay and
[7:32] in neuter services and animal control in the amount of 45,000.
[7:37] Number seven, resolution approving the procurement of goods and
[7:38] our services for the Department of Public Health from blue cardinal chemical
[7:43] for the purpose of kennel supplies and animal control in the amount of 45,000.
[7:47] Number eight, resolution approving the procurement of goods and
[7:49] our services for the Department of Public Health from custom data processing for
[7:53] the purpose of EMR and RCM database services for personal health in the amount of 85,000.
[7:59] 9. Resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the Department of Public Health from FFFF Enterprises for the purpose of providing vaccines in the amount of 55,000.
[8:09] 10. Resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the Department of Public Health from Blackstone Smith Client Financial for the purpose of providing vaccines in the amount of 33,000.
[8:19] Number 11, resolution approving the procurement of goods and or services for the Department of Public Health from Merck and Company for the purpose of providing vaccines in the amount of $44,000.
[8:29] Number 12, resolution approving the procurement of goods and or services for the Department of Public Health from Midwest veterinary supply for the purpose of veterinarian supplies at animal control in the amount of $45,000.
[8:40] 13 resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services department of public health for Motorola solutions for the purpose of 10 radios for animal control in the amount of $35,390 and $0.30.
[8:51] Number 14 resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the department of public health from MWI veterinary supply for the purpose of veterinary supplies at animal control in the amount of $45,000.
[9:04] 15 resolutions, moving the permanent goods and our services for the Department of Public Health
[9:08] from Dr. Dean Nelson for the Purpose of Veterinarian Services at the annual fica
[9:13] control, the amount of $ 90,000 16 resolution approved the
[9:17] recognize analysis of the Department of Public Health from the Sche Center for the purpose
[9:21] of providing their can distribution services of the amount of visitors.
[9:24] 17 resolutions, proven dark governmentultan hid permanent goods, Office of Department of Public
[9:28] Health, problematic facility destroyed with normal attention provide the what was Опrol
[9:34] 18, resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the Department of Public Health
[9:37] from the Board of Trustees of SIU for the purpose of providing medical director contract and the
[9:42] amount of 42,300. Number 19, resolution approving the procurement of goods and our services for the
[9:47] Department of Public Health from solid ground solutions for the purpose of janitorial services at
[9:52] animal control and the amount of 80,000. Finally, number 20, resolution approving an intergovernmental
[9:56] agreement between villages and cities in Sangamon County and Sangamon County for the provision of
[10:01] of animal control services.
[10:04] Thank you.
[10:04] Clerk, very well read.
[10:06] On the motion to consolidate, all in favor,
[10:08] say if I have a saying aye.
[10:09] Aye.
[10:09] Opposed, no, the ayes have the motion to consolidate.
[10:11] To agree to, questions or comments from members of the board
[10:13] on the resolutions of this consolidate?
[10:16] Yes, Ms. Ms. Small.
[10:18] Ms. Small, please use your mic and hit the button there.
[10:24] So it's red.
[10:26] Yep.
[10:27] OK.
[10:28] Ms. Small, you got to speak into the mic.
[10:30] For resolutions 9, 10, and 11, they're all providing vaccines.
[10:36] Are they providing different vaccines or would have been cheaper to have one, do them all, or?
[10:42] I think that's a question for a professional staff.
[10:45] Mr. Ridley.
[10:46] Could you, Mr. Ridley, could you use the microphone here that's reserved for the circuit clerk?
[10:51] You hit the big button in the center there, and yeah.
[10:56] Those are for a variety of vaccines, Vera.
[11:02] I mean, I don't have a list of them with me.
[11:04] I can get that for you, but it's a variety of vaccines we have at the health department.
[11:09] Different vaccines from different providers?
[11:12] Different vendors.
[11:13] Yeah.
[11:15] Any other questions, comments from members of the board?
[11:19] Seeing none, Mr. McDonough, do you have a motion?
[11:21] I move that the roll call vote for resolution one, stand for the roll call vote of resolutions four through 20.
[11:27] as consolidated.
[11:29] All in favor, seconded by the sake of saying aye.
[11:30] Aye.
[11:31] Opposed no.
[11:32] The ayes have it.
[11:33] The motion, the resolutions are adopted.
[11:35] Motion by Mr. Maudonia, seconded by Mr. DelJone,
[11:38] for the waiver of the 10-day filing period.
[11:39] All in favor, seconded by the sake of saying aye.
[11:41] Opposed no, the 10-day filing period's waiver of resolution 21, Mr. Clerk.
[11:45] Number 21 resolution authorizing the Illinois State Museum Society to contract with Dynamics Inc.
[11:50] for the design of the 1908 race riot exhibit at the Springfield,
[11:54] both the Singham County Transportation Hub, and an amount not to exceed 200,000.
[11:59] Motion by Mr. Raider, seconded by Mr. Stoff to Place Resolution 21 before the board.
[12:05] Mr. Del Donor.
[12:06] Mr. Chairman, I move to consolidate 22, 23, 24, and 25 in with 21.
[12:11] Seconded by Mr. Middany, Mr. Clerk, please read resolutions 22, 23, 24, and 25.
[12:16] Number 22, resolution of approving the procurement of Goesander Services for the auditor's department from Triune Health Group for
[12:22] for the purpose of workers compensation,
[12:24] nurse care management in the amount of $246,150.
[12:28] 23, resolution approving the list of contracts
[12:32] for Singham and County employee benefits for 26
[12:35] and authorizing the director of human resources
[12:37] to sign said contracts.
[12:39] 24, resolution appropriating an additional $70,000
[12:42] to the Massey Commission so that funds are available
[12:45] for it to complete the work initially set forth
[12:47] and resolution six approved on 918, 24.
[12:50] And number 25, resolution of approving amendments to the fiscal year 25,
[12:54] singing the county budget.
[12:57] Questions are on the motion to consolidate all in favor of a signify by saying aye.
[13:01] Opposed, no, the aye's have it most consolidates agreed to.
[13:03] Before we open it for questions and comments from the board,
[13:06] I would like to acknowledge in the audience from the Illinois State Museum,
[13:11] or the Illinois State Museum Society, Jamila Wix, the executive director,
[13:16] and from the Illinois State Museum, Associate Director John Handley.
[13:22] The museum has been a phenomenal partner in developing the exhibit
[13:28] for the race ride artifacts that were discovered in the process of constructing the sensory rail program.
[13:34] And it's an extremely sensitive subject and they've handled it.
[13:38] They've just handled it so, so well.
[13:41] And we are so lucky to have them as a partner in this project.
[13:44] It's gotten rave reviews from everybody involved in it.
[13:49] Question now, questions or comments from members of the board on the resolutions as consolidated?
[13:54] Seeing none, Mr. Modonia.
[13:57] I move that the roll call vote for resolution one stands for the roll call vote of resolutions 21 through 25 as consolidated.
[14:04] All in favor, say no for saying aye.
[14:06] Aye.
[14:06] Opposed no.
[14:07] No, the eyes have it, the motions as considered are agreed to and proceeding, ah, county board schedule.
[14:16] Motion by Mr. Modonia, seconded by Mr. Dalton, for the approval, the county board's schedule has submitted to your desk on favor, saying if I was saying aye.
[14:24] Opposed, no, the eyes have it, county board schedules approved, public comment.
[14:31] Mr. Kamen, Mr. Kamen, I don't think you're on your mic, you've got to hit that red, yeah.
[14:36] The old business is an agenda item.
[14:40] I don't know.
[14:42] And I'm wrong.
[14:43] After two resolution 25, it says old business.
[14:46] Yes, you're right, I apologize, Mr. King.
[14:48] Yes, did you have some old business, but Ken?
[14:50] Yes, I had, sorry.
[14:55] I had asked the State's Attorney's Office for the-
[15:00] A month of attorney's fees that the county had been billed and paid for in the defense of the James and Cody wrongful death lawsuit. I'd asked for that information to be stated at the county board meeting, but I got I got that in writing. And the amount of fees that we paid to outside council for defense in that case from June 30th, 2021 to August 31st, 2025 was.
[15:29] According to what I've received, almost $170,000, $169,160.34, I just wanted to share that with members of the board and the public.
[15:44] Thank you, Mr. Kim, and I'm not sure if that's a whole business, but I'm not sure where else I would have put it, so we'll put it there.
[15:49] Thank you, Mr. Kim.
[15:50] and new business, appointments.
[15:53] Motion by Mr. DelGorano, seconded by Mr.
[15:55] McDonough for the approval appointments has submitted your desks.
[15:58] I'll give Mr. Chairman, I do have some new business.
[16:02] Well, we're on appointments now, we'll come back to that.
[16:04] Well, you didn't leave any time.
[16:06] We'll come back to Mr. McDonough, we'll come back to it.
[16:08] We'll come back to it.
[16:09] We won't forget you, Mr. Gamble, we'll come back to it.
[16:12] Motion by Mr. DelGorano, seconded by Mr. McDonough for the approval,
[16:14] the appointments has submitted your desks.
[16:16] On favor of a signify by saying aye.
[16:17] Aye.
[16:18] Opposed no, the eyes have at the opponents are approved now Mr. Kim in new business new business had a question for sheriff crouch
[16:25] Saw an article in Illinois times
[16:27] This past week where it was reported that
[16:31] You said that the department currently has 59 deputies you're working to increase that number to the authorized total of 70
[16:38] But you wouldn't comment on the average number of officers on street patrols
[16:43] Would you share with us the average number of officers on street patrols?
[16:51] So we generally don't post the average number working every single night for safety reasons
[16:57] But what I can tell you is that there are
[17:01] Approximately eight that are assigned each night
[17:04] However with their day off codes and things of that nature that it generally ranges between four to five deputies and one to two supervisors that are working per shift
[17:16] So so maximum seven four to five plus two correct
[17:25] But you're as you increase the numbers that you would hope to get that number up by is that correct?
[17:31] Yes, sir. All right, very good. Thank you. You're welcome any
[17:38] other new business with Kim. No, that's all the new business
[17:41] I have to be sure I gave you plenty of time to raise it all right
[17:46] Proceeding then to public
[17:48] To public comment
[17:50] We have two members of the public who signed up to speak, in the order that they signed
[17:59] up to speak.
[17:59] The first person who signed up to speak is Cynthia Cody, Ms. Cody,
[18:11] then the second person
[18:13] who signed up to speak is Ken Pesha,
[18:19] got it right.
[18:34] You're just far.
[18:35] Mr. Pesh, I signed up to speak on the Mass Commission, and that's on the agenda this evening, so we have five minutes to speak.
[18:42] Thank you. Good evening, everybody. I'm not sure if you saw the headlines today, but me and some other community members launched a coalition.
[18:51] The people united for reform, power, liberty and equity.
[18:57] We are all very active members of the community in various aspects.
[19:00] and we take it very seriously.
[19:03] I feel if there's been a lot of issues
[19:04] that the Massie Commission has helped raise.
[19:07] With their findings, I strongly encourage all of you
[19:10] to come to the remaining listening sessions.
[19:12] They've been really important in terms of hearing from the community
[19:15] as well as seeing what your guys' funding and blessing
[19:19] of that commission and the creation of it has led to.
[19:23] It is disappointing sometimes that I don't see a lot more
[19:25] of your faces there.
[19:27] I know you guys have busy lives and a lot of concerns
[19:29] outside of this.
[19:30] But I think it's really important that you guys come out and witness what you guys gave, you know, the money to where it's leading to and what it's coming to in terms of its actual goals and outcomes.
[19:40] They have some really strong suggestions about what we can do here differently that will avoid the horrific outcome that led to all of this.
[19:49] The murder of Sonya Masi was an absolute tragedy, but I think we all agree could have been avoided.
[19:55] If we'd had better protocols in place, better oversight, or even just better information sharing between precincts,
[20:02] which has since been handled at a state level, we would have seen a difference in that outcome.
[20:07] And I think, though, that I and I think our sheriff would agree, there's more that can be done to help,
[20:12] the Sangin and County Sheriff's, the SPD and other law enforcement around here,
[20:15] as well as the community itself, find better resolutions to provide better outcomes in the
[20:20] future. So we can avoid the kind of horrific things that we've seen, not only from the
[20:25] murder of Sonny Massey, but as well as in other situations, whether it's deaths in the
[20:29] county jail or other assorted situations that have happened in law enforcement agencies around
[20:33] the local area. But again, I think it's really important to note how eager we are to try
[20:40] and build a better bridge than just community organizations that are not truly interested
[20:44] and facilitating real and lasting change here.
[20:48] You guys have a lot of work all the time.
[20:51] You have a very long list of resolutions
[20:53] or things on there, even I don't,
[20:55] have the time to look into, read into,
[20:57] so I appreciate that all of you take that time.
[21:00] But I really strongly suggest that the work is not done,
[21:03] even though the Massie Commission is now ending.
[21:06] The goal of a group like the Purple Coalition
[21:09] is to continue that work.
[21:10] And we strongly encourage you to consider
[21:12] But all the members of that group are just as eager to work with you and eager to facilitate change as the Massie Commission is
[21:19] We have spoken with the leaders of the Massie Commission and they're just as eager to see us continue that mission far beyond that
[21:25] And that's not to ask for funding or anything like that. We'll provide our own care
[21:29] But what we really want is to be able to hear more from you guys more of your voices more of your presence and more of you being
[21:36] Available to the community members and that's not to accuse you of not being
[21:39] But I think it's really important that when we have town halls, a community listening sessions that you guys come out in here, directly not just from the constituents in your own areas, but the people that are throughout our area, both into the city of Springfield and this around in Sangham and County.
[21:54] I will also strongly encourage some of you if you'd like to attend the upcoming trial.
[22:00] It's going to be a really important moment for the state of Illinois, the city of Springfield and Sangham and County.
[22:06] that trial and the outcome. They moved it from here because for a lot of good
[22:11] reasons. I'm sure we can all think of those good reasons, but it being impure it
[22:15] doesn't remove the responsibility and accountability that the Sangam and
[22:19] County and Springfield have in that situation and those outcomes. Sean Grayson
[22:24] being convicted doesn't end that saga. It merely means that we've punished the
[22:27] guilty party. The accountability and work that needs to be done is all of our
[22:31] responsibility. As a community, as leaders in the community, as authorities in the community,
[22:37] we have to continue that. We cannot assume that simply because their mission has done,
[22:41] that our job has done. There is a lot of issues left to confront. I'm sure we all have our own
[22:46] concerns that we can all voice, but I think we can all strongly agree that the Sangham and County
[22:51] Sheriff's Department has a lot of work that needs done to it, and that's not an attack on the
[22:55] leadership. It's a lack of work that has been done to maintain it. Questions about their
[23:00] Their fourth strength is very widely understood within the county.
[23:03] I've had multiple accidents come to me with that concern hearing that there may only be three or four deputies available for the entire county some nights.
[23:11] And that's not a failure of leadership, that is a failure of funding, it's a failure of competitive salaries.
[23:17] It's competitive of many other things that key bar sheriffs from being able to maintain a significant structure within the law enforcement community here.
[23:24] They are in a very rich and robust environment. There's over 20 different agencies around here from the FBI to the
[23:32] Secretary of State to the park police to even Riverton and Rochester that offer more competitive salaries
[23:37] And I think that's an important part of the discussion. I know that we've previously, if I can have like 10 more seconds
[23:42] I know that we previously have had a lot of disagreements guys
[23:45] I know that I haven't always come up here and been very charitable
[23:48] But I think a lot of that goes into my frustration with the outcomes that we've had
[23:52] And I hope that in the future, even with the Massie Commission ending, that we can all come together to continue the work that needs done.
[23:59] Thank you guys.
[24:00] Thank you.
[24:01] Yep.
[24:07] Can I clarify something?
[24:09] I was under this understanding that the Grayson trial is not open to the general public yet beyond a list.
[24:15] Is that true?
[24:19] Let's see if we can get a, we'll see if we can get you a, all right, I just didn't want to put it out there for everyone that it's dry to peorian being in the galley if it is closed.
[24:42] We'll see if we can get you an official answer.
[24:49] All right, thank you.
[24:50] Any other?
[24:52] Very good, then proceeding in the regular order,
[24:55] reports of county officials, reports of special committees,
[24:57] reports of standing committees,
[24:58] report of the committee on claims,
[25:00] motion by Mr. Del Giorno.
[25:01] Seconded by Mr. Midonia,
[25:02] that the reports to be placed on file with the clerk,
[25:04] on favor of saying if I was saying aye.
[25:07] Opposed, no.
[25:07] The ayes have the reports to be placed on file with the clerk.
[25:10] Motion by Mr. Midonia,
[25:11] seconded by Mr. Del Giorno,
[25:12] that we do stand in recess until the regularly scheduled November
[25:14] meeting, all in favor of saying if I was saying aye.
[25:17] We stand adjourned.