1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,680 And for the invocation, the pledge of allegiance, led by councilwoman, Florida brook. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:13,160 On this day, on our beautiful sanctuary island, maybe reflect on the anniversary that this date represents. 3 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:22,040 For years ago today, a storm unlike any other, tore apart our homes, rect our businesses, brought down our critical infrastructure. 4 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:28,680 But maybe remember that day with gratitude for what we gained, instead of mourning what we lost. 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:35,760 May we be grateful for the bravery of the police and firefighters, all the first responders, 6 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:41,700 for the steady leadership demonstrated by our city manager, Dana Sousa and all his staff. 7 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:49,080 For the impossibly optimistic determination of our mayor at that time, Holly Smith, who would 8 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:55,180 not allow anything but looking forward, and my fellow council members, Mayor Miller, Vice 9 00:00:55,180 --> 00:01:01,100 handshot council member Johnson, who along with then council member Scott Crater worked tirelessly 10 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:07,580 to bring our island back to life. Maybe be grateful for Maria Espinoza, the leadership at 11 00:01:07,580 --> 00:01:13,620 fish who provided meals and services to the whole community. Greatful for James Evans and 12 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:19,120 SCCF who pivoted from taking care of the environment to taking care of residents across the island. 13 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,300 grateful for the small businesses who opened their doors and provided 14 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:28,480 respite and all the men and women and children who rolled up sleeves put on 15 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,020 boots and did what they could to lend the hand to rebuild our community. One 16 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:39,680 shop at a time, one home at a time. Our island may have been devastated that day 17 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,560 but our community was not. Instead demonstrated the capacity of what we can do 18 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,800 when we unite to achieve our common goal. 19 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:52,760 And for that, may we always be truly grateful, amen. 20 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Amen. 21 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,280 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 22 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,260 and to the Republic for which it stands. 23 00:02:03,580 --> 00:02:09,320 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for us. 24 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:17,600 Thank you, Laura, and thanks for the recognition of the contributions of all those people. 25 00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:21,560 I'll roll call, City Clerk. 26 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:23,340 Mayor Miller. 27 00:02:24,020 --> 00:02:24,720 Vice Mayor Hensha. 28 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:25,020 Here. 29 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,220 Councilmember DeBruce. 30 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,820 Here, Councilmember Johnson. 31 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Here. 32 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:29,280 Councilmember Smith. 33 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:29,720 Here. 34 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,740 Thank you. 35 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,500 Item four is setting the agenda. 36 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:38,200 I'll note that historically this final budget hearing is generally pretty brief. 37 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:44,380 But that tends to mask the process, which has been very long and intense. 38 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:50,020 Council has been working on the budget since June, and city staff has probably been working 39 00:02:50,020 --> 00:02:51,500 on it for most of the year. 40 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:58,680 So I think staff for all of the contributions, we only have only one substantive agenda 41 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,460 item that's afternoon, which is the budget, which includes three resolutions, and he changes 42 00:03:03,460 --> 00:03:04,500 to the agenda. 43 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Seeing none, recognize our Deputy City Manager Steve Trable. 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Thank you mayor mayor vice mayor city council. So tonight we're going to as the mayor mentioned the culmination of almost a year of working on the budget and we'll start probably again in a couple months working on it 45 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:32,860 For the final budget adoption for fiscal year 27 in the agenda on the first agenda item my memo does summarize 46 00:03:32,860 --> 00:03:40,300 What the budget total is for the city. I have it up on the screen right now is not changed since the first budget hearing 47 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:49,780 So we're looking at a budget, a proposed budget of 187,622,061 dollars across all funds. 48 00:03:50,460 --> 00:04:00,200 The breakdown on the screen shows on the left-hand side where the sources of those funds are and on the right-hand side the uses. 49 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:06,900 So the budget doesn't include both beginning fund balance and ending fund balance and all funds. 50 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:14,440 Also, on the agenda, I have linked to the presentation that we made and the council discussed 51 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,020 at the September 14th hearing and then a link to the final proposed budget, which is online. 52 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,140 So, while the numbers will be finalized, after tonight, we'll still be working through 53 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:32,080 the budget process for the next two months to get it ready to publish out all the information 54 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,880 that's required by accounting standards and the prior city budget. So we'll get an announcement 55 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,940 out when that final information is all posted out there. So I just want to mention again 56 00:04:42,940 --> 00:04:48,100 that we're no changes to the budget. We did advertise the budget as required by statutes 57 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:54,400 and then in the news press last Thursday. I haven't received any public comment regarding the 58 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,280 it's in thin. So with that mayor, I'll be able to answer any questions or turn to 59 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Any questions or discussion for our CFO before we get to the three resolutions? 60 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:15,900 I have just a couple of things. I appreciated the memorandum, which I know is attached to the agenda 61 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:25,140 and for those in addition to us who may be looking at it. And as we've discussed over the past months, 62 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:35,620 we have a budget of 187,000, but about over a hundred of, I'm sorry, a million, but over 63 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:40,780 a hundred million of that is Hurricane E and designated in some way shape or formed. 64 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:45,960 Yes, that is correct, and thank you, I should have mentioned that, keep mentioning, so, and 65 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:52,940 most of those resources are in the Hurricane E fund, but yes, you will see the results of 66 00:05:52,940 --> 00:06:00,040 in the sewer fund as well, so there's about $85 million worth of active grants that are still 67 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,520 working. So yeah, the vast majority of the budget still is working in the company. 68 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:09,800 And I was wondering, I know that much of it is in that Hurricane Ian Fund and then in the 69 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:21,540 Enterprise sewer fund. Looking at the total sources of funding though, it looks as if it is 70 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:27,020 enterprise fund, and then parts in general fund, would you say it's sort of in different pockets 71 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:32,920 in this first chart here? So there's probably there's a little bit of grant activity 72 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,280 in, well, I shouldn't say a little bit. So in the general fund, there is the 73 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:46,300 those significant grant activity that is related to hurricane DN is the past through CDBGDR grants. 74 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:55,080 So, those are the grants that in the budget right now grants that have been approved for fish and for the fire districts, station 171. 75 00:06:55,660 --> 00:06:59,920 That's $6 million of the general fund budget are those passed refunds. 76 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:09,720 So, they do increase the budget, but it's money that is, we, those entities, expend those funds, we reimburse them and then the county reimburse us. 77 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,440 beyond that six million dollars, the vast majority of it will be in the Hurricane 78 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Ian Fund, which is a special revenue, and then the sewer fund, which is a part of 79 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,580 the enterprise funds. 80 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:28,060 Well, it's, I understand that, the special revenue we have about 43 million, and in the enterprise 81 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:37,140 fund, I'm wondering, is that the, so the enterprise fund consists of sewer and beach? 82 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:37,840 Right. 83 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:46,020 But I'm looking at first chart, wondering in terms of the sources of funds, if where that 84 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:51,800 where the hurricane revenue, I'm sorry, where the hurricane end revenue is in that fund. 85 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:52,300 In the other part. 86 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:57,720 This is sort of, if you looked only at this first sources of funds where you would be able 87 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,640 to find all of that or most of it. 88 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:17,020 So, the easiest way to, now in the individual fund budget, so if you click on, again, back at the main page of the budget and select the sewer fund, those grants are going to be labeled as intergovernmental grants. 89 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:28,060 It does not provide the detail. The best way to get that detail is to go to the capital improvement plan, and then all those in the sewer fund, anything that is preceded with the word grant. 90 00:08:28,060 --> 00:08:33,460 currently in the sewer fund is directed related to Hurricane Ian. Now it could be 91 00:08:33,460 --> 00:08:37,880 FEMA projects but the vast majority of right now is state funded but those were 92 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,580 result of Hurricane Ian. That's where you get that detail. 93 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,280 And then the six 94 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,500 million or so is that when we go over to the city uses a fund that would that be the 95 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:54,660 six point four million in terms of the grants and assistance would you say most of 96 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:57,380 That is the path through to fish and the. 97 00:08:57,380 --> 00:09:02,880 Yes, so six million of that amount is the CDBGDR path through grants. 98 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:11,080 The rest of it is the annual support that contracture we give to CHR and the historical 99 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:11,760 museum. 100 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:14,980 But six million dollars, that's an even number. 101 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,640 We're not really sure what the activity is going to be next year, but six million dollars 102 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,700 for the fish and the fire district. 103 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:21,380 Great. 104 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:22,140 Thank you. 105 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:42,520 And then, I think I have figured it out, but it might be worth also, that for our taxes, the 15-9-1-4-8-1-9 from the general, from the general fund, that's adverlorum, but then additional taxes as well. 106 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:47,960 And your estimating not a little over 95% of adverlorum, I think, right? 107 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:59,980 Yes, so both the answer questions are yes, so part of that and again, you get the detail for the tax revenue in the general fund detail, but the vast majority is at the alarm, but 108 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,080 There are other taxes we receive sales taxes from the state. There's communications sales taxes in there, so all beyond 109 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:15,140 advalorum, the state does put out revenue estimates. So we use those estimates, because all that money is collected 110 00:10:15,140 --> 00:10:22,440 through the state and remitted back to us. The advalorum is currently budgeted at 97% of the total 111 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,580 levy accounting for discounts. Typically, 10 of our residents, most residents take advantage 112 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:31,400 of the discounts, and pay early, so it averages out about 3%. 113 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,380 Okay, great. 114 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,940 Thank you. 115 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:33,520 You're welcome. 116 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,780 Any other discussion on the budget at this time? 117 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:38,580 We had to say. 118 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:39,040 Wait a minute. 119 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Quick question. 120 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:47,440 I think I may know the answer to this, but in respect to the past through monies, do we retain any 121 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,960 of that as we pass it through, like most governmental agencies do? 122 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:53,320 We do not, sir. 123 00:10:53,320 --> 00:11:00,880 So we made a decision right after Hurricaney and when a lot of the city BGDR grant funding opportunities 124 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,920 came up, we are allowed to withhold an administrative fee. 125 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:08,100 We currently do not withhold any money for those past few rounds. 126 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:08,560 Okay. 127 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Thank you. 128 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:11,140 Can I add a comment to that? 129 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:17,240 If my voice will hold down, is that we made that conscious decision because it would have 130 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,540 increased the cost before the recipients. 131 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:25,740 It was not a percentage of the administrative, I remember discussing this with the council member Smith. 132 00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:33,240 When the funds first came to available that the county had an allocation of the funds for the administrative costs. 133 00:11:33,340 --> 00:11:37,540 We went to the county and asked if we could get a percentage of that for our administrative costs. 134 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:44,520 But the only way that we could have done that would have been an additional cost to either fish and the fire district. 135 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:51,160 And so Steve had estimated that once the project get off the ground, that it would be a very minimum expense for us. 136 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,660 So we opted not to add that additional expense to the recipients of the grants. 137 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,040 Thank you. 138 00:11:58,380 --> 00:11:58,520 Customers. 139 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Yeah, and just on that, because that's perfect. 140 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:04,480 I can't remember what the county was getting administratively. 141 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Something around 55 million or something like that. 142 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:14,480 So we did request that every municipality who was subrecipient for areas were given 143 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:27,080 that and we were respectfully declined on that and I did pointedly ask CFO staple if it was what 144 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:34,560 type how much and it was extremely nominal. So we really didn't want to pass that on and I 145 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:39,940 think that if he thought it was going to be something more of a time on his staff and things like 146 00:12:39,940 --> 00:12:44,280 that we would probably come back and reconsider that number. Is that fair to say? In our discussion 147 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:47,120 So I will just add on to that later. 148 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:51,080 At the last meeting, the City Council approved the indirect cost study that we performed 149 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:51,620 a year. 150 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:59,940 And one of the reasons that we do that is we produced that study under OMB federal standard. 151 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:06,740 So we can withhold indirect costs on some grants if it's beneficial for the city and we 152 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:07,540 choose to do so. 153 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,380 So we have the ability to do it. 154 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:12,740 We have backup if we want to do it, but currently we don't have a policy where we 155 00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:13,160 are collecting. 156 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:20,440 And may or on that as well, the reimbursements for fire, they're almost ready to give us 157 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,940 the reimbursements before even ask. 158 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:29,320 I mean, they've been very prompt on that, and I know for the fish building, they also 159 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,240 have reserves that exceed the grant. 160 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:37,660 So if there were any issues, they could sustain on the grant themselves on reserves. 161 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:40,300 Councilman Johnson. 162 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,420 Thank you, Mayor. 163 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:48,460 Vice Mayor, as you point out, most government agencies take some of those funds as an administrative 164 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:49,040 charge. 165 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:56,840 This is yet another example of how we work as a local government and how we make the money 166 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,040 go where it falls and where it's most needed. 167 00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:02,080 Thank you, Mayor. 168 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Any other discussion before I go to public comments? 169 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,360 See you then, any public comments on the budget at this time? 170 00:14:11,140 --> 00:14:11,240 Mitch. 171 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,140 Thank you, Mitch. 172 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,700 Kaufelman, a sandable resident. 173 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,400 Laura, you hit her right on the head. 174 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,620 I had the opportunity. 175 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:27,860 Which I tested Steve out with Cody to try to get a better handle on not only the budget, 176 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:32,660 but the implications of a potential passage of amendment 3 on sandable. 177 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,260 And I spent a lot of time going through the last five year, 178 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:39,020 but I'm not an accountant, I'm not a financial person, 179 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:41,520 but I ran a $300 million business at one point, 180 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:43,780 so I had to understand that stuff. 181 00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:47,800 And what I'm going with this is the questions you ask, 182 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,720 other questions, a normal citizen would ask about 183 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,740 how we manage our money, how we spend our money. 184 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,260 To be perfectly honest, is detailed 185 00:14:56,260 --> 00:14:59,120 and is perfect as the tables are available. 186 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,980 Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video. 187 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,580 We are not easily understood by a member of the public. And I'm going to make a suggestion that 188 00:15:06,580 --> 00:15:14,340 we're perhaps in amendment 3 may pass. The focus of the public on taxes, how the money is 189 00:15:14,340 --> 00:15:19,120 generated and how it's spent is going to go up astronomically over the next couple of years. 190 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:27,340 And we ought to think about putting out a user-friendly interpretation of our budget and how it's 191 00:15:27,340 --> 00:15:32,000 put together, not necessarily with all the buckets with all the funds, because to have 192 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,060 ever citizen, that's accounting. 193 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,720 It doesn't really matter to them. 194 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:41,340 Just basically break it down where the source of the revenues come from, whether it's 195 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:48,300 Advalorum taxes, whether it's pass through to government grants, keep it simple and get 196 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:52,540 it out, so they have a basis for understanding where things may go in the future. 197 00:15:53,460 --> 00:15:56,680 So you asked the right questions, now I'm going to look back to Steve. 198 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,780 I can help you with that in a series that I think it would be very valuable for the public 199 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:07,380 to have a good public common sense feel for where our money is going, how it's spent 200 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:08,860 and where it's coming from. 201 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:09,300 Thank you. 202 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,140 Thanks, your comment. 203 00:16:10,340 --> 00:16:12,140 Any other public comments on the budget? 204 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,940 Anything else, Steve? 205 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:17,760 Before I go to the resolutions. 206 00:16:18,420 --> 00:16:21,180 No, but I will just quickly explain what the resolutions are doing. 207 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,140 So the first resolution will set the military for fiscal year 27, the second resolution 208 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:33,700 will set and adopt the total dollar amount of the total city budget for fiscal year 27. 209 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:41,320 And then the third resolution commits the reserves in the general fund per our fund balance policy 210 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,300 that it has included in the budget. Would you read the title of the resolution 26 to National 211 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:51,500 42? I will do that. And before I do that mayor, if I may, I just want to thank council 212 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:56,000 you mentioned that you've been working on this in June, and I think that your work actually 213 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,560 started before that, really with the Stonewater Mass to Plan and the Prioritization of 214 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,500 projects that we never required for the community. So we, from a staff perspective, we thank 215 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:10,960 all of you for the work that you've put into the budget and the guidance that you've given to us too. 216 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:18,800 So thank you. Mayor. Yes. She said a quick call. And I typically wouldn't do this, but I just 217 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:25,240 We had, I think the public comment was very valid in the years that I've sat, we've always 218 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,420 had a hard copy that we could take and we could open up. 219 00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:34,200 I can tell you, you know, as much as we try to understand it ourselves, I find this extremely 220 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,540 complex to look for things online. 221 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,160 And I would love to see us have some sort of a forward-facing hard copy. 222 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:44,760 We could flip it open, we could go to the capital improvements. 223 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:51,900 I had to look in many different areas, and as easy as it might be for staff, it's not for the rest 224 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:52,360 of us. 225 00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:57,580 And if it's not for us, it certainly isn't for our citizens, even though we work on this 226 00:17:57,580 --> 00:18:00,300 all-in-round, basically, or within the next couple of months. 227 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,400 So I just want to echo the comments of the public that I think that would be very helpful. 228 00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:06,360 Thank you. 229 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:12,440 Mayor El just said, Stephen, I have talked about a citizen's guide to the budget that we 230 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,320 could be that we would look to generate. 231 00:18:14,860 --> 00:18:21,740 So Mitch's comment is apropos, and we understand that as we go into the referendum process 232 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:27,080 and next year with some of the state requirements to go through the exercise for 10% cut, 233 00:18:27,220 --> 00:18:33,200 et cetera, that it's going to be important that people can understand exactly how that 234 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,340 translate to services. 235 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:40,240 So it's a great comment, and we have had discussion about having a very easy to read document 236 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,620 that would be available to the public. 237 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:43,960 So Mayor, just one other comment, just to piggyback. 238 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,700 So one about the budget book, that will be published as part of this. 239 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:54,120 So on the online page, one of the first links on the left-hand side of the page will be a PDF that 240 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,720 name they can download and print out at their convenience. 241 00:18:58,460 --> 00:19:01,000 And then second, yeah, very good comments. 242 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:10,200 One thing I do like to mention during the whole budget process is the numbers are a very small part of the communication tool the budget. 243 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:19,320 So what we're going to be working on of the next two months is flushing out the narrative and making it easy to read and understand about what those numbers mean. 244 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,240 So as you go into the links for the different funds, you'll see tables like this for the numbers. 245 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:33,540 But the big part about is we do explain where all these numbers are coming from and the effect and how we determine the estimates for those. 246 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,260 So and then we'll incorporate obviously changes that come up for tax reform, but I just want to mention that a lot. 247 00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:38,980 Thank you. 248 00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:43,460 So, City Manager, would you read Resolution 26-1042? 249 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,340 Yes, sir. 250 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:50,820 Resolution 26-1042, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Santa Bel Florida, adopting 251 00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:56,840 the final operating and voted debt service, ad-vallorn milled rates, for tax year 2026, 252 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,400 fiscal years, 2027. 253 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:16,420 And for the city of Sannebel, Florida, and providing an effective date. The blanks in section 1 should be filled out at 2.5000 mills, and then increase that above the rollback rate by 6.9%. 254 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:31,370 I would move resolution 26-042 filling in the blanks at 2.5000 mills with an increase of 255 00:20:31,370 --> 00:20:40,110 a six point nine percent a different from rollback for a second and a discussion 256 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:46,130 of council and a public comments and connection with the proposed resolution 26 257 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:50,950 to four to say none bring it back to council by tomorrow. 258 00:20:51,290 --> 00:21:02,090 I just before I vote I just want to and recognizing where I'll be this time next year I 259 00:21:02,090 --> 00:21:09,470 just to make it clear that the 2.5000 and that's where the 3000 was come from. 260 00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:19,090 But the is is the right military, I think, for us right now, given given our current 261 00:21:19,090 --> 00:21:21,350 situation and still recovering from Ian. 262 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:30,290 But I would like the general public to understand that at least a hope is for next year that 263 00:21:30,290 --> 00:21:39,930 military could be cut closer to to the rollback. But this year, I do believe it's the right thing 264 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:46,590 for us given the fact that we're still in recovery. We're getting close to the end, but not quite, 265 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:48,490 and I think it's appropriate. 266 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:55,870 So I would expect the public to come back another eight, nine, 267 00:21:55,870 --> 00:22:01,870 months from now and be looking very very closely at our village rate and see if we can 268 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:09,150 learn that. So that would be my hope is that we would. Assuming everything moves along is 269 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:17,190 it's moving but get down lower that village rate where it is today or at least what we're about 270 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:22,570 to vote on. Thank you. Any other comments before we vote? My only comment in reference to that is 271 00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:27,570 you know, hopefully we'll be getting more inventory back on the market, which we'll be able 272 00:22:27,570 --> 00:22:34,210 to drive the taxes, the tax face that we've lost to come back. And I look forward to 273 00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:36,570 next year's budget conversation as well. 274 00:22:37,550 --> 00:22:38,410 And the other discussion. 275 00:22:39,370 --> 00:22:43,310 Senance Scotty in line, which we call the vote on 26-042. 276 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:44,510 Council Member DeBruce? 277 00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:45,130 Yes. 278 00:22:45,310 --> 00:22:46,010 Vice Mayor Anja? 279 00:22:46,330 --> 00:22:46,590 Yes. 280 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:47,190 Mayor Miller? 281 00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:47,590 Yes. 282 00:22:47,790 --> 00:22:48,630 Council Member Johnson? 283 00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:50,550 Yes. 284 00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:51,250 Thank you. 285 00:22:51,250 --> 00:22:58,070 Thank you. I brings us to consideration of resolution 26-043 City Manager, which we did 286 00:22:58,070 --> 00:23:04,330 title to that resolution. Thank you Mayor Resolution 26-043, a resolution of the City Council 287 00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:09,390 of the City of San About Florida, adopting the final budget for the fiscal year ending September 288 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:15,550 30th, 2027 for the City of San About Florida, and providing an effective date. Thank you. 289 00:23:15,550 --> 00:23:23,230 the blank in the last where our section should be filled in is $187,622,061 dollars. 290 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,250 Any discussion? 291 00:23:28,270 --> 00:23:28,850 That's my question. 292 00:23:29,230 --> 00:23:37,490 Mr. Mayor, I will move 26-043 in starting into the blank. 293 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,880 187,622,261 dollars. 294 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:48,940 Second, I think you nailed it. 295 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,880 Any discussion at council? 296 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,140 Senate, any public comments on this resolution? 297 00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:58,590 Seeing none, back to Council, any further discussion? 298 00:24:00,270 --> 00:24:03,730 Scott and Language, you call the vote on 26-043. 299 00:24:04,830 --> 00:24:05,690 Council member DeBruce? 300 00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:06,130 Yes. 301 00:24:06,410 --> 00:24:07,170 Vice-Minor Hintel? 302 00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:07,570 Yes. 303 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:08,130 Mayor Miller? 304 00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:09,530 Council member Johnson? 305 00:24:11,130 --> 00:24:11,350 Yes. 306 00:24:11,530 --> 00:24:12,050 Thank you. 307 00:24:12,370 --> 00:24:12,850 Thanks, Scott. 308 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:19,690 The lend brings us to agenda item 5D, which is consideration of resolution 26-044. 309 00:24:19,690 --> 00:24:22,270 City Manager, would you please read the title? 310 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:23,110 Thank you, Mayor. 311 00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:25,690 Resolution 26-0444. 312 00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:29,510 Resolution of the City Council of the City of Sanabel, Florida. 313 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:33,170 Establishing committed fund balances for emergency reserves. 314 00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:36,670 An operational support reserves for the city of Sanabel. 315 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:38,750 And providing for an effective date. 316 00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:40,990 There have not been a subscriber there in that title. 317 00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:42,530 And it should be an addition. 318 00:24:42,970 --> 00:24:44,790 It should say debt service reserves. 319 00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:46,930 There's a third type of reserve. 320 00:24:46,930 --> 00:24:51,890 the resolution body correct just a title just a title okay so no 321 00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:59,430 need a discussion in council yes a woman to Bruce yes thank you thank you 322 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:59,970 this is a 323 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:10,820 May a good time to forward within our reserves to speak again about in the event of another event of which we hope we 324 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:25,620 will face again. And these emergency reserves, in such a case, would help us through initially, but perhaps not so far. Do we also have, or could you remind us, do we have also an LOC that we would 325 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:33,100 and other ways that we would be able to sustain in addition to the amounts that we have here. 326 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Yes, thank you, Council Member. 327 00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:40,740 So the emergency reserve, and it's been varying on depending on the severity of the event, 328 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,380 but it is a very short-lived, depending on the event. 329 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,980 Hurricane Ian, we went through that 5.9 million within the first month, 330 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,440 between debris, emergency procedures, and debris right off the storm. 331 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,440 We did have an active line of credit for Hurricane In, we let that expire and we don't 332 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,780 have one right now. 333 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,120 But the reason that we don't have an active one right now is that we are enrolled, and this 334 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:14,580 is a third year that we have been involved in the state of Florida's F-Frock program, which is 335 00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:16,600 the recovery obligation credit program. 336 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,640 So depending on your experience with storms, and we are ready to very high on our experience. 337 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:23,980 You can take that as a good or a bad. 338 00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:33,280 We would receive advanced 50% advanced funding on projects that we developed after a storm. 339 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:40,780 The purpose of that program is to dispense cash very quickly to organizations so they can start that recovery. 340 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:49,820 We're currently, you know, I could have got that number from Brett today, we're finalizing the opt-in for fiscal year 27 right now. 341 00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:59,300 I believe the last number I got from him was where at 87%, which is one of the highest in the state right now, so that allows us to get some advanced funding. 342 00:26:59,540 --> 00:27:07,280 So for example, if we went through the 5,5,9 million dollar reserve within a couple months, we could get some advanced funding from the state. 343 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,580 And that is, you really isn't advanced on your potential FEMA revenues. 344 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,740 And in addition to that, which I understand is mostly for projects. 345 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:24,440 You believe that we would also be eligible again for that revenue replacement grant 346 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,360 for house or is that something different? 347 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,400 Like, what about our operational day-to-day? 348 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:31,840 It's not just projects, but just like keeping the lights on, paying salary. 349 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:44,820 Right. So currently there is not that is not part of the F Rock program and we part of that emergency reserve because we are in the F Rock program. We could use that for operational research. 350 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:49,720 But we would look at probably opening up a line of credit. One of the requirements. 351 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:59,820 And what I foresee is that the Florida Department of Emergency Management will have us kind of expand our financial policy. 352 00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:09,160 But one of the requirements of the FRAC program is that we have an established financial policy for disaster events and how are we going to self-manage that. 353 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:19,540 We have indicated that our policy is that we would open up a line of credit, so the state is looking for us to have that ability or at least the intent to be able to do that. 354 00:28:19,540 --> 00:28:23,300 They're not requiring at this point, but it is part of our financial plan with them. 355 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,920 So that's something that we would look into as a city sooner than later, before. 356 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Exactly. 357 00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:31,960 Now, I will just speak on the revenue replacement grant that we received from Hurricaney 358 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,100 and just for the record, it was a one-time funding source from the state that generally would 359 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,980 not be available after Hurricaney and let's just stay to appropriate a more money. 360 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,720 Thank you. 361 00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:43,000 Thank you. 362 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400 And the other discussion on the proposed resolution? 363 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:57,010 Yes, absolutely. I would move resolution 26-044. 364 00:28:58,830 --> 00:29:02,190 There's second. We have a motion in second on the resolution. 365 00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:05,710 Don't think we have any blanks to fill in any discussion at Council. 366 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:10,890 See, then any public comments on this proposed resolution at 367 00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:13,850 Council? 368 00:29:13,850 --> 00:29:19,530 last transfer discussion. Seeing none, Scotty Lane, which call the vote on 26-04-04. 369 00:29:21,130 --> 00:29:25,510 Council member diverse. Vice-mariner. Yes. Mayor Miller? Yes. 370 00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:28,570 Council member Smith? Yes. Council member Dodson? Yes. Thank you. 371 00:29:29,290 --> 00:29:33,950 That concludes the work in the budget. I just wanted to again thank staff for all the work on this. 372 00:29:35,310 --> 00:29:41,630 We ended up with an operating budget, which is 2.7% lower than the budget for this current 373 00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:46,450 fiscal year. And if you take inflation into account, the difference is even greater. 374 00:29:46,930 --> 00:29:48,950 So thanks to all you for that work. 375 00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:53,890 Brays us to agenda item six public comment. And a public comment. 376 00:29:57,010 --> 00:29:59,970 Seeing none, we've reached the end of agenda. Any other comments before we... 377 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:15,060 Injection to vice mayor. I want to just follow up on your comment. And I want to thank City Manager and his staff for making this a tight budget and still under. 378 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:29,980 And I think you guys have done a great job and I really appreciate the hard work. And the sometimes it's very difficult to examine into departments where any kind of fluff can be removed. 379 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:41,500 And I think you and your team have done an outstanding job in making sure that it is the right budget force, and it is right-sized. 380 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:51,400 And it will do as well as we move forward, even with a percentage less than it was last year. 381 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,000 Thank you. 382 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:52,320 Thanks, John. 383 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:54,960 Any other comments or objections to a German? 384 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Seeing none, we are adjourned. 385 00:30:57,580 --> 00:30:58,180 Thank you very much.