1 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:02,800 I'd 2 00:00:10,290 --> 00:00:23,160 like to welcome everybody out to our board meeting. It is August 11th and it's 630. We'll start 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:31,660 with introductions on J. Olson, chair, vice chair. 4 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:38,760 Way do you buy us some or remember Brian Andrew okay Chris Johnson Matt 5 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:46,400 Palmer Kristina about to open and straight okay thank you 6 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,500 you want to 7 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:57,440 introduce yourself we just did that talk usually with twin 8 00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:21,950 There's a board had an opportunity to look at the minutes, I was not here, I read through them but I wasn't here so I entertained a motion to accept almost no further minutes. 9 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:30,990 Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. 10 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:35,090 Let's move down to our financials. 11 00:01:36,490 --> 00:01:39,390 Does anybody have any questions on the bills we had? 12 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:46,370 No. We didn't have a ton of it turning either again a little bit, but not a lot. 13 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:52,570 Yeah, I guess I, we shouldn't have too much. I spent a little time with him on just that, uh, 14 00:01:53,750 --> 00:02:03,050 yeah, the legal issue with our neighbors to keep. We talked about that and stuff. You guys all 15 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:12,090 got the memo and then we can discuss that in close session and go from there. If there isn't any 16 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:22,050 questions, we're concerned, you have to accept. Okay, second. We've got Wade McRae, 17 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:24,170 all in favor? Aye. 18 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:32,290 Project updates, discussion on possible action and 19 00:02:32,290 --> 00:02:38,610 guarding standards in criteria. We've got anything more on that than we need 20 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:43,790 to worry about. I know that we have done some. We, you approved last time the 21 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:49,810 The slight change to the criteria one, the public entity to give irrigation companies 22 00:02:50,350 --> 00:02:53,250 a, you know, the full points than just municipalities. 23 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:59,850 I believe we discussed the method to do that is the proportion of the shareholders that 24 00:02:59,850 --> 00:03:04,550 are involved in the application, same thing with towns, if it's the whole town or just a portion 25 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:04,950 of town. 26 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:11,970 That has been updated and then we, instead of just the public welfare, we added a section 27 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:15,670 for innovations, so that includes use of technology reporting and measurement. 28 00:03:16,190 --> 00:03:17,610 So those standards have been made. 29 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:24,890 We have one new submittal, I know two of the contacts with that, performance minute, 30 00:03:25,090 --> 00:03:30,570 cotton or gooseberry, is planning on putting in a kind of a feasibility study. 31 00:03:31,310 --> 00:03:35,690 They want to come in for funding for it and the 32 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,200 down-of-fair view, they want to do a water 33 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:47,960 right study, the irrigation company down there. But we have twin lakes here today who wanted 34 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:54,300 to answer questions from the, they have to submit a last twin creek, sorry. Not a way 35 00:03:54,300 --> 00:04:00,220 to do it. No. Sorry, twin lakes are where I was on a day. It's a night hone, it has its 36 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:06,880 own, so we say it has water. Sometimes, they have their own, they're trying to build a dam 37 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,380 Similar to you guys for not just not quite as long 38 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:18,980 But they had cool the board had questions last time about the submittal using concrete pipe versus another material 39 00:04:18,980 --> 00:04:20,560 Yeah, they changed that 40 00:04:21,660 --> 00:04:27,700 And I was just gonna open up the board for questions to you first of all, you know if you give you a chance to 41 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,700 What what you're doing what you're trying to do how important is to make your case here 42 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:39,680 We talked about it before, and I don't know if you guys remember, but I think everybody 43 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,420 remembers what was concrete down by the high school of schools and that the 44 00:04:44,940 --> 00:04:48,740 2300 feet or something like that. Yeah, it's just completely fallen apart. It's 45 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:54,140 cause of havoc and it would just be a lot better to have that in in a pipe for 46 00:04:54,140 --> 00:05:03,180 safety and conserving water. So it's not in a pipe? No, no. It's meant good, right? 47 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:04,100 Yeah, it's meant to be. 48 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:04,720 Yeah, it's meant to be. 49 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,880 You remember this one? 50 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:06,980 Yeah, it's your little design. 51 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:07,380 Right? 52 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,840 Probably double. 53 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:10,400 Oh, okay. 54 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:11,060 It's still quite. 55 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,380 It's older than me. 56 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:13,380 It's just slide down. 57 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,440 It's just slide down. 58 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Yeah. 59 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,440 It goes like that, man. 60 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:17,660 Okay. 61 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,480 They have changed. 62 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:21,900 They sent in revised plans. 63 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,280 JUB is their engineer. 64 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,600 However, they haven't sent a revised cost assessment. 65 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,880 And the whole point of changing the pipe 66 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,280 was to see if the cost could change. 67 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,480 And so that's why the board had the question as well, could you do a revised cost? 68 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:43,660 If it's not pressurized, which was at the indication, right, it's not pressurized, you know, 69 00:05:43,780 --> 00:05:46,220 why can't we do an HTTP or an ADS pipe? 70 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,260 Right, that would be a lot cheaper than RCP. 71 00:05:49,780 --> 00:05:53,480 And I think they had a total project cost just over a million. 72 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:59,780 You've got a UDAF grant, water opusation grant that pays for half and they were asking 73 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:04,460 for a quarter, so 250,000 from the board. 74 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,900 But that was basically about 250,000 for there at before. 75 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:13,220 Yeah, that's where they's at, and that was sort of 2300 feet. 76 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:15,580 Yep, that's all we're looking at. 77 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,780 There's no other part of the project that we're doing. 78 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,840 No, there's little branches of it, and I think that was included, 79 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,660 and then we were going to have some cement boxes 80 00:06:25,660 --> 00:06:31,480 for a clean-out or where water drains in into this ditch off of a place. 81 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:32,400 Yeah, I can describe. 82 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 So this, this is the cemetery right here where the east of west is. 83 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,580 Here's about 2,300 feet. 84 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,820 They're a total project. 85 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,080 That 24-inch HDB came down this 18-inch with this way. 86 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,760 And then there's not a line that went north on the one side of the highway. 87 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,920 But do you think you could reduce those costs? 88 00:06:52,920 --> 00:07:02,120 If you lower it, get your engineer to submit a new cost, if they have that is what the board felt last time. 89 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:09,840 They have plans to say HEP, but in their semiddle they just said, well, we feel it would change the project costs substantially. 90 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:14,000 That's where we push back and say, well, we think it will continue to cost us. 91 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:20,760 Well, and if you don't have to have a pressurized or anything, I mean, it'd be that I'm not sure what it's called. 92 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,540 Well, it's in 60 ADS pipes, so it's new interior. 93 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Ribbed on the outside. 94 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,560 Ribbed on the outside, doesn't have to have pressurized gaskets, doesn't have to be 95 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,260 buffused. 96 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,180 And it's 18 inch pipe, so I think it'll be significant cost savings there. 97 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:44,120 So your engineering companies looked at it that way, but they haven't come up with a 98 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,400 price. 99 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,760 No, they haven't changed the price. 100 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,240 And that's my question to you. 101 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:58,240 I mean this is all their estimated costs so when you put it out to bid and everything like that is it just like a percentage you will go up to a certain amount of money and 102 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:01,640 I know, I think that's the last time. 103 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:07,860 What we said is if your bid comes in under what your budget amount is then you're fine. 104 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:13,460 When you submit your invoice the district plays whatever percentage that was agreed to. 105 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:19,580 So in your case it'd be whatever, that's a quarter percent or just say roughly, you'd submit 106 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:25,220 those to Amanda, and then the district will case that payment on that invoice. 107 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,340 That's how we described last time, that way each funding agency pays a portion of each 108 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:29,660 invoice. 109 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:33,780 No, we'll pay this one, you pay this one, it's kind of an administrative amendment. 110 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,500 For my feelings of doing that, being in the dirt business, I don't think it's going to 111 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:46,880 cost anywhere near what they estimate of but I don't I don't know for sure you 112 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,620 think you got to get bids out and see what right materials cost and then because 113 00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:57,720 you probably have a pretty good idea on the excavation and stuff and no 114 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,900 matter what you do excavation watch probably about the same cost yeah well 115 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,620 that I think the Smith pipeline took a lot more 116 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:11,200 labor to install it. And that's what I had to explain to our engineers. And we were even willing, 117 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:17,820 as the irrigation company and the city, because we're going at this together, if we had to jump in 118 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:23,080 and do some of the labor ourselves, we would, to keep the cost down. 119 00:09:26,950 --> 00:09:30,930 So, let me see how you want to tell us. 120 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:41,150 I know for a lot of us it's hard to talk about so tell us why this project is important 121 00:09:41,150 --> 00:09:42,350 to you guys and the city. 122 00:09:42,830 --> 00:09:49,750 Well, if we have a year like with the cement ditch coming apart then the ice creates 123 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:54,250 you guys all along on that one, it's been used to anyways and it's getting worse every 124 00:09:54,250 --> 00:10:00,550 year so we give these floods of water and ice then the plugs where it goes under 89 and 125 00:10:00,550 --> 00:10:07,190 And then possibly flooding the cemetery or across the highway and one of the branches 126 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:11,750 of the lake that goes north for only a block is right next to their soccer field. 127 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:17,290 And so we would really like to get that covered out so we don't lose a child. 128 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:18,270 No. 129 00:10:19,330 --> 00:10:26,250 And you get optimization funding so because you only got water savings. 130 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:30,670 I mean, you're increasing your water savings on that 2300 feet, and that's about it, right? 131 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,170 So, what are they submitted? 132 00:10:33,730 --> 00:10:36,790 They just made it save around 135 acre feet a year. 133 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:41,590 So, from that perspective, it's fairly low, but there was just for that portion of the project. 134 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:42,070 Yeah. 135 00:10:42,430 --> 00:10:43,910 So, there's water in the year now. 136 00:10:45,850 --> 00:10:48,310 No, there's high water, and then winter water. 137 00:10:51,060 --> 00:10:56,680 And of course, if we get a cloud burst or something, that water has somewhere to go. 138 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:11,660 but when you say the winter water, that's the ditch it goes down, where we can't store it all. 139 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,640 So that all time it goes to the same side of the ditch? 140 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,100 Great, so that's your old flow ditch or whatever you can't use other places. 141 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:27,420 and so in the winter that's where the water goes through the town so it has 142 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:32,960 water in it. If there's water it's got water in it all winter. We do have another 143 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,480 ditch on the south side of town but we have to split because neither ditch is big 144 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,500 enough to carry the full amount that comes down in the winter. So with this 18-inch 145 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:46,920 pike is that going to make it to where you can put it all in this ditch? I don't 146 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,040 think so. We'll still have to divide it and send something about south. 147 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,180 Because you're just matching with crosses highway 89. So they can't make it in there. 148 00:11:55,380 --> 00:12:00,720 Doesn't that constriction? But I think is it 24 start with? Yeah. 149 00:12:00,940 --> 00:12:06,980 18 down further. Yeah. It's 24. Then some northern splits. That's where it goes 18. 150 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,520 And so crosses 89 and then is there pie? I mean there's no. It goes into a ditch. 151 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,540 It goes back into a ditch and we haven't had a, but it's not a smitten ditch down there that's fallen apart into dirt ditch. 152 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:27,880 And I would love to put everything through town into the ditch because we did flood a basement a couple years ago with the ice problem. 153 00:12:29,060 --> 00:12:30,460 Thank you for the one last year. 154 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:33,320 Not this last one, but the one before. 155 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,680 We didn't have ice lashing in here. 156 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:38,280 Here we had ice, just didn't have much. 157 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,340 So where's the cross-89 right next to the ball field right there where the train cars are? 158 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:51,800 Well actually it turns and it does go into a pipe and follows the train cars and it goes 159 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,140 down a little bit further than crosses the highway there by the new whole ride. 160 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,140 So it's got to go through town after that? 161 00:12:58,300 --> 00:12:59,500 Yeah so 162 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:05,400 I'd love to, for there to be enough money to put the whole thing through town and 163 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:09,640 This is our problem area for right now. 164 00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:12,540 You should be all over that, Stan. 165 00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:15,260 Get in the sandpages. 166 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:17,820 I'm waiting for you to speedy. 167 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Get in the sandpages, pass the rock down. 168 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,160 West Point Canal. 169 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,580 Everyone pass the rock down. 170 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,940 Okay, back on the subject. 171 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:33,880 So any other questions? 172 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:43,640 just before the board decides would you like to have a revised cost estimate or if 173 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:50,400 they're close to getting bids and an actual bid number come back to you. I know what I'd like but 174 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,160 I want a board to say what they want 175 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,360 because one's an estimate and one or facts. 176 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,400 You've got any cost estimates on the pipe? I haven't. Well they have they have a 177 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,240 What cost is on the total project, it's $1.29, just sounds. 178 00:14:10,740 --> 00:14:17,120 Of course your age you did one mile HDPD, 16 HDPD, last year, a whole mile from $160,000. 179 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:24,500 Right, and that's where I felt, that's just really high, like JUB's way over the exaggeration. 180 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:32,520 Well, that's what the board's been concerned about the whole time, and it's not that we're not willing to do the project and stuff. 181 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,100 We're just trying to justify the cost. 182 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,440 I understand. 183 00:14:39,780 --> 00:14:43,220 So can you put it out for beds before we make a commitment? 184 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Yeah, I can get a few beds. 185 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:49,080 Because if you had fairly firm costs, 186 00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:55,120 I think the board would feel better about it, 187 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:58,800 and that would let you know where you are with all the funding. 188 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,960 If you can't, you have to... 189 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,460 Percent with optimization. It doesn't matter what it is. So you're still going to need another 50 percent. 190 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:29,980 So I think the board would be. But yeah, the breakdown is they've got a $600,000 optimization grant. But that could get reduced if the bids come in more. Yeah, it doesn't, if you don't spend the money, unless you can convince them to do more. Yes, more. I mean, if you could keep 191 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:35,440 if you can keep your optimization grant at the 600,000 and then come in with 192 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:44,060 costs and revise your contract as a department. Now they score just on the 193 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:51,020 recommendation. The only project we've done this year approved so far is the 194 00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:57,240 master plan and that was the score 75. These guys with our revised criteria, they 195 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:03,180 They were right at 75 as well, so they'd go up actually, but it made one or two points 196 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:07,860 on it, because it is for the public good, but it's not for the entire town and not for 197 00:16:07,860 --> 00:16:08,760 the whole company. 198 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:09,820 Yeah. 199 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:10,680 I mean. 200 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,680 So they're right in there what you've previously approved, you know, scoring wise, they're 201 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:22,320 slightly under the portion irrigation ones that are, you know, waiting for their matching 202 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,440 funds to get straight out. 203 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:32,160 So, board, let's have a motion on the direction. 204 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:38,120 Or we can just say this is what we want you to do. 205 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:42,460 Come back when you're ready to really tell us what you need. 206 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:46,600 I mean that's up to, what do you want board? 207 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:51,700 I think if you come back with this data, I think that would help us. 208 00:16:52,920 --> 00:17:00,040 And I would say, with the idea that you're going to make the UDAF go as far as you can. 209 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,660 You put your own skin in the game, so what the board has asked previously to do in the 210 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:08,520 quarter yourself, and so that means all the existing board criteria. 211 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,620 Yep, and I would suggest going back to optimization. 212 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:22,200 Well, looking at your beds and deciding, you know, getting an idea of what pipe is going 213 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,620 to cost and everything, and then if you have a lot of money left over, I would suggest 214 00:17:26,620 --> 00:17:37,700 you go back to optimization people and see if you can use that and cover more because every 215 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:45,840 Every foot you put in, you'll have the water savings for that foot, the pipe, and plus the 216 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:54,680 health, human health factor, and everything else in the safety community, so that's what 217 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:03,860 I would suggest you do, and then come back to us, because even you probably can get that 218 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:10,820 before our next meeting get bits in and stuff and then it'll be the second 219 00:18:10,820 --> 00:18:17,860 Tuesday in September or I think it's on the back of this is not September the 220 00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:25,170 eight so that's what it's meaning and if you could wind and have a pretty good 221 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:31,450 firm idea on cost and stuff then I think the board is ready to probably take action 222 00:18:34,380 --> 00:18:41,020 Okay, and if you run into problems and you want to discuss it, get hold of Brian or you 223 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:46,400 call board members or whatever, yeah, I mean. 224 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,680 Yeah, I don't, I think that's the best way I didn't know if the board wanted to vote, say 225 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,520 they can give you a tentative approval to help you with the other discussions, but wait to see what those costs. 226 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,360 That was a discussion last time. 227 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:08,600 So, you've got more questions for us, or you want to tell us more things. 228 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:09,700 You know? 229 00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:11,460 Is that work for you? 230 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,140 Yes. 231 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:21,980 I mean, if you're getting your bids in and stuff a month, time with us, should work 232 00:19:21,980 --> 00:19:24,440 into that schedule so you can put it in this thought. 233 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:24,860 Right. 234 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Was that what you want to do to put it in before winter comes? 235 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:32,580 for when are you going to come next week, right? 236 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:36,980 If you're a project, we're willing to sack them. 237 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:38,900 Thank you for your sacrifice for the things women. 238 00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:43,760 But yeah, well, if that's okay. 239 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,460 We appreciate you coming. 240 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,320 And like I said, if you have questions and stuff, don't hesitate to ask us and stuff. 241 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,860 Because we're here to serve you. 242 00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:58,920 and address the public. 243 00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:03,930 I'll get that stuff together. I'll get a couple. 244 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,810 Is there a number of bits I need to get? 245 00:20:07,850 --> 00:20:12,490 I'll say three. I'd say your UDAF grant will have more. 246 00:20:12,570 --> 00:20:17,650 I guess I think that grant has you special occasions on what you have to do. 247 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:22,770 And that I think that will suffice for what we want. 248 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:25,670 Because if you're meeting those requirements for that grant 249 00:20:25,670 --> 00:20:35,730 that we should be okay. But as that said, we're going to leave that open and just a little 250 00:20:35,730 --> 00:20:36,630 bit to make sure. 251 00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:44,510 I would go back to that grant and look at it, see what's required 252 00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:52,550 there and I think that you've got your engineering and I think that's part of what was required 253 00:20:52,550 --> 00:20:55,790 there and you've got your water savings, but 254 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:02,620 that's what we want as a board for the, you know, 255 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,800 we're making sure that projects are going to work so that our funds are well-used. 256 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:11,580 Like we'd 257 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:12,580 support going further. 258 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Okay. 259 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:27,200 Anybody else? That's all the other project I was talking about was 260 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,140 There was a Fayette Irrigation Company, they have finalized the application, but their 261 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:34,520 first canal piping was the other project they could have done. 262 00:21:34,940 --> 00:21:45,920 And I did receive a phone call from Swan Richard, I think it was Richard Swan up in Hydeway 263 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:59,200 Valley in New York area, and they're lucky at putting in a drink of water well and laterals 264 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:07,220 whole thing. And I suggested that they go to drinking water. I have no idea where I'm going or what 265 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:13,240 I'm doing. I said, well, get a hold of drinking water. Contact them. They will be able to tell you 266 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:22,060 everything you need to do because you have to work with them because we won't fund anything that is not up to their 267 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:29,960 specifications. So that's what I told him. And SRF is not overly burned right now. You 268 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:36,120 could go get an SRF from drinking water. Yeah, but he wants grant, but everybody wants 269 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:41,400 grant. You know, but I said if you're if you're as poor and everything you hear say you 270 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,840 are, you might, you can get a zero interest loan, which you can't complain about. 271 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,980 Are these getting a little better than paying up from an apartment? 272 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,860 Yep, so we'll see if that comes. 273 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,460 That's the only one I'm aware of. 274 00:22:55,100 --> 00:23:02,120 Well, along that line, Justin has sent me the sheriff's sale 275 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:05,240 of a bunch of water rights out there in that same area 276 00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:08,300 for auction by the sheriff. 277 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:13,140 So I was going on, but I had six pages of water rights 278 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,940 that were available, so I was going to report 279 00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:21,060 on that next time you see if there's any. Yeah. Just to track them because I bet they 280 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:23,200 get then get involved with some change applications. 281 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,020 Yep and that's really out of our drainage but 282 00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:34,660 it's not out of our own. It's in the county. It's in the county but it drains into Utah like it's 283 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:42,380 Utah like drainage once it gets over hilltop but we're still involved with that area because 284 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,240 as a county line, 285 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:49,260 so. 286 00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:52,920 Most times, you don't have to pay for the rest of the year. 287 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,660 Oh, you can leave, you can say, you're wherever or to do whatever. 288 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:59,100 You're welcome to stay, but most guys take off 289 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:00,420 when their business is done, so. 290 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,240 But you don't have to, I mean, hang out for a little while. 291 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:16,690 Our chain application, nothing's changed there. 292 00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:19,110 Monitoring have changed applications. 293 00:24:20,830 --> 00:24:23,450 Did you guys talk about, I mean, 294 00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:26,630 I know it's said then that we went to the hearing. 295 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:32,870 Do you receive letters from water rights on log one bike? 296 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:33,350 Right? 297 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:35,570 One of you. 298 00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:36,830 I don't see anything. 299 00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:37,910 Okay. 300 00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:45,870 But what we need to know, you need to open them and look at them and make sure that there's 301 00:24:45,870 --> 00:24:49,790 no hearing so that we have it. 302 00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:51,430 I haven't seen one like that, but I haven't. 303 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:55,190 and say, because that one should have, we should have got a letter for that hearing, but 304 00:24:56,010 --> 00:25:00,610 and really caught it because I flagged it. You can go in the water right now. 305 00:25:01,910 --> 00:25:09,910 So from now on, when you open them, just look and make sure if there's a notice of a hearing 306 00:25:09,910 --> 00:25:16,490 and a letter smell. And look, is it on the front of it usually? Notice a hearing, because you're 307 00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:22,030 I don't see what these letters can notice or renew or because most of them are just correspondence 308 00:25:22,030 --> 00:25:30,050 back from the division right that's what I've mostly seen but just look a little more closer 309 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:35,230 to make sure that we're not missing hearings and stuff because it sure looks bad if we don't 310 00:25:35,230 --> 00:25:42,230 show up to a hearing yeah okay but yeah okay and if we have more notice than we can have more 311 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:46,130 communication because you were down there you could have just been in that 312 00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:52,490 that I didn't need to drive down there. Yeah so when I didn't know that you 313 00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:57,230 remember oh that was the legacy yeah I just gonna look up see what they have 314 00:25:57,230 --> 00:26:01,930 for your address to make sure it's going to the right place. Well there all this 315 00:26:01,930 --> 00:26:05,990 is coming it's all coming to our new mail box yeah it's all coming to our new 316 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:12,030 mailbox which is great because everything is there's nothing coming you personally 317 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:14,190 any more, right? It's all coming through the district. 318 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:16,270 Right, welcome to the, about since you've 319 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:20,350 been going with it. So, everything, I think that's great. So, it's all working. 320 00:26:20,990 --> 00:26:24,550 We just have a look at a little closer and make sure that we don't miss a hearing. 321 00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:29,390 Maybe they never told you the latter. 322 00:26:30,030 --> 00:26:34,570 Well, maybe they didn't, but they're usually when you protest, you get a, 323 00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:37,110 they're not sending an email. 324 00:26:38,670 --> 00:26:42,990 No, they usually do it by letter. They usually do it letter. They're still old school. 325 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:56,460 But yeah, just make sure it has happened. Sometimes the letter doesn't get to you. So you can then say, hey, 326 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:03,480 if we want to add something to it, then they keep the record open because we did receive our letter. 327 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,540 So, 328 00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:20,070 Brian sent out Saturday noon of list of the change applications that we have in the county 329 00:27:21,290 --> 00:27:25,950 and the ones that were considering you want to go over them. 330 00:27:26,530 --> 00:27:28,230 Yeah, so there's only three this time. 331 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:36,810 One is just one acre foot moving from the Sandpitch River to an irrigation well. 332 00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:38,970 I think it's a well right by their house. 333 00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:42,910 So an irrigation well, not a drinking water? 334 00:27:43,170 --> 00:27:46,790 It says the purpose is irrigation. 335 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:51,650 The next one is devil's pass. 336 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:53,650 Water rights move from the sand pitch. 337 00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:56,750 It is for one acre foot, but it does say irrigation 338 00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:57,370 and domestic. 339 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:03,330 And then the other one is M&M moving from. 340 00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:06,370 This one I don't think we need to protest. 341 00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:13,150 It's moving water from one ditch into the M&M company. It's all surface. It's not moving it too, but well 342 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:15,770 You're not increasing your acreage 343 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:21,430 Well, you think since 1956 I get this right 344 00:28:22,090 --> 00:28:26,130 Well, I mean I I knew you would know the answer to that 345 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:28,990 That was a big one. It was like 13 CFS 346 00:28:28,990 --> 00:28:33,710 But it was like you're just move up from one ditch to another. It's already been there from one ditch to another 347 00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:38,170 I don't want to make down what they got the day travel, so we have to refile. 348 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:42,730 And this has only been going on, I think it's not in 1956. 349 00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:48,970 We've been working on the narrows since the 20s, you know how you have a speedy one, how you have a speedy one. 350 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:52,550 So that's the one out there, that's the one out there, that's the one out there. 351 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:56,650 I was just trying to get the day to try the dates of the diversion. 352 00:28:58,090 --> 00:29:02,130 I saw it, like I said, I wasn't going to point any fingers, but it is M&M and it was from 353 00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:02,890 a ditch to a ditch. 354 00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:10,290 So yeah, but like I knew who was on the board that has water in him and so I thought I could just ask the question 355 00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:19,570 And then I need to tell us he had a conflict anyway. Once I got you know once we get into this if we decided to do something 356 00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:25,030 So yeah, the the other two is if you want to protest them. They're small ones and one acre foot rides 357 00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:27,010 But they are moving from surface to well 358 00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:31,370 So does the 359 00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:37,650 does it still have a on date and off date on an irrigation well and like a 360 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:42,090 domestic where they can pump all year long or on irrigation it does domestic is 361 00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:47,490 your right with with this one that would be the case the one would be year round 362 00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:51,090 right and the other one would be an irrigation season or what was the irrigation 363 00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:59,710 season I didn't even look at that I didn't even put a first set October 3 it would be the same as their previous and they're they're going 364 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:20,780 I think right now, October 15th, their original warite is 1.31 acre feet, and they're going to 1 acre foot. Yeah. So they took a slight trim on their conversion, probably for river losses. And this is the sand pitch near Mount Pleasant. Yeah. 365 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,640 No, but we're done with the, we're looking at the other, the culinary ones. 366 00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:32,540 Oh, sorry. 367 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Sorry. 368 00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:34,020 I pulled up the devil's pass one. 369 00:30:34,540 --> 00:30:34,800 Okay. 370 00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:35,020 Yeah. 371 00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:37,960 That one's devil's passes just north of Fairview. 372 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,780 The problem we had with devil passes is they do not let it down the sand. 373 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,280 That one or their transfer. 374 00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:58,980 They don't reduce their diversion, but they have a hard time physically changing their 375 00:30:58,980 --> 00:30:59,760 diversion. 376 00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,820 You're supposed to take a little less than they don't. 377 00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:07,440 So when they transfer, they just leave it in and keep using it. 378 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,020 The other one is 1 acre foot to 1 acre foot. 379 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,580 But it's irrigation irrigation, it's not domestic. 380 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,240 That's why you have the haircut usually. 381 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,040 I mean, personally, I think we should protest for them, but that's just me. 382 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:32,160 So, well, irrigation irrigation skill, they're going from surface to underground, is it going 383 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,940 from inconsistent to a consistent usage? 384 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Look at this usage, and I don't know anything about how things work up there, I mean, are 385 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,460 Are they getting their one acre foot every year? 386 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,400 No, they will after this is approved. 387 00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:58,980 Remember the proposal last year was, 388 00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:02,520 wait proposed to move all of Gunnison Reservoir into a well. 389 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,280 Remember from that same proposal you got. 390 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,260 And when I was getting really close to doing it, 391 00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:10,220 I think I'll talk to Nate to see if he'll help me. 392 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Okay, back to our right, we saw you don't like the side meetings today. 393 00:32:18,220 --> 00:32:23,420 I've been told that I need to be more efficient at running meetings, so I'm trying to do 394 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:24,000 a better job. 395 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:25,780 But that is not what you were told. 396 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:29,640 You, you're not the only person that talks to me. 397 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,700 You were told that we finished faster. 398 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:33,100 That was what we were told. 399 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,140 Yeah, but I'm not here, so I'm trying to do a better job. 400 00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:51,800 Well, I mean, so to me, like, I really want to understand, you know, as we protest these, you know, the very specific rationale, and so this first one, the rationale here is, is there's just no way there's no way they're getting their full right now. 401 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,120 I'm probably not even getting water now, the truth being no longer my guess. 402 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,960 They have to probably have that water all year, and that's where you're doing this. 403 00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:03,060 Because there's a trend started. 404 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:08,260 And then the second one, I sit there in the same boat, they're at least taking a little bit 405 00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:08,660 of a haircut. 406 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Yeah, they're like, they're getting my 5% is what they should be doing. 407 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,400 Well, but on average, if you took a 20 year average, they're probably 50% over 20 years. 408 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:27,680 if that. I think you're getting benefit of the data. So that's one way to 409 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:34,260 expand the water right right there. Yep. If you guys tell me I will protest it 410 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:39,460 because the deadline's tomorrow. I'll make a motion that we protest. Okay. I will 411 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:47,200 second the motion that we protest both change applications A5 4 816 and A5 4 412 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:55,640 eight five three okay sure you don't want to do eight five four eight four you 413 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:09,520 got three. That one appears to not be expanding any water rights. It is from our 414 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,780 analysis it was just cleaning up and then already existing system. Stapering what's 415 00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:20,000 being done in practice. So, yeah, so based on that, I wouldn't see the rationale 416 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:26,040 protesting it. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. 417 00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:28,500 Any opposed? Okay. Motion carried. 418 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,880 It would be nice to see both of them show historical documentation as to the actual delivery 419 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,840 over the past 15 to 20 years. We can get that out of the, um, 420 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,920 We can introduce a meeting that's all there, 421 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:56,790 it's substantiate, yeah, substantiate, why they should, why they should be getting guaranteed one acre foot going forward. 422 00:34:57,370 --> 00:35:02,210 If the historical meeting does not meet that. 423 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:03,390 okay 424 00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:09,630 anything else so 425 00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:21,560 they're brought up last time that maybe we should start 426 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,160 looking at some of the well-to-well changes applications we'd 427 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:29,820 bring those 428 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:33,920 before the board we put that on our notice to track they're just working this 429 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:41,740 time okay so let's if you're in the process of doing that and everything because I 430 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:48,080 know that. What criteria are you filtering for? What brought that up if I remember right 431 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:54,680 is there's some of these miles down the county that are secondary water rights. Supplementary 432 00:35:55,510 --> 00:36:05,140 water rights that through history have become primary water rights through habit. And it's 433 00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:10,740 only supplementary and some of that started to get transferred and having a primary use 434 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:12,500 That's where that conversation comes. 435 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:14,140 No, I'm fine with it. 436 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,120 I just, I do know that, you know, we've got this groundwater study. 437 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,180 And are we filtering specifically for that then? 438 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:24,240 As of last on the primary? 439 00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:29,240 Well, that's what the discussion came from because we had one water right that was 440 00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:34,200 historically it was supplemental and then they had changed a well and they were moving the well. 441 00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:38,000 And so we're like, wait, that was kind of a lesser water right to begin with. 442 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,340 How come now it's a higher? 443 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:41,560 That's going to be a primary full-time, right? 444 00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:47,360 You'll get your full-water supply versus people who they're shut off when it was in 445 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,020 bases based on water coming from the river. 446 00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:51,380 It was very rude. 447 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,840 So will that be the defining criteria of what gets flagged? 448 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:02,740 No, there's a lot of criteria we look at, but that's one of the ones we're just... 449 00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:04,420 Well, there's a lot of good flags we brought to the board. 450 00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:12,770 What we're looking at is just when it's a well-to-well, what was the base water 451 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:36,580 I think it's good now where the groundwater study is I mean our model and everything 452 00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:43,020 to where we can start plugging some of this information into that model and seeing 453 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:53,660 how it looks and works. I do know that over in my area, there's several homes that are dry now. 454 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,740 Just this year? Yeah, more this year, yeah. 455 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:04,220 Dry because they're second air? Yep, because the water, the groundwater dropped. 456 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,720 So what do they do? They're hauling the water. 457 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,500 You look at a whole water, do you think? 458 00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:14,180 Well, I just wonder if it's real or if we're just thinking what's going on? 459 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,680 No, no, this is documented. 460 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:19,680 It's legit. 461 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,100 It's legit that wells are going dry. 462 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,020 I don't know where you are in Spring City on any of those outside of Spring City. 463 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,300 Well, there's so many factors to why well go to dry. 464 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:38,620 Exactly, that's why we have the model ready, but it's all location specific when you 465 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:46,900 apply it because you recharge your ground water level or all highly site specific. 466 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:54,610 Yeah, I mean, you can drill a well and not have good water and fill a well 100 feet away 467 00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:55,550 and hit a good scene. 468 00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:56,170 Yeah. 469 00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:57,450 So I'm going to go dry. 470 00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:01,270 It's not because the aquifer went down, it says there's not a bad scene. 471 00:39:02,530 --> 00:39:04,290 well, it depends on. 472 00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:12,370 I'll probably add a little bit more water to it now, but it doesn't need to be a bit 473 00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:18,830 of water. 474 00:39:18,830 --> 00:39:24,090 winter you don't have the recharge. You don't have any recharge and then you've got a lot more 475 00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:29,810 irrigation wells running this year so it's pulling a lot more water and like yeah like 476 00:39:29,810 --> 00:39:35,350 except there's a variety of factors but the model is completed the base model you know for all the 477 00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:40,990 inflows and things and the period of record are all entered so now it's available to me specific 478 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:54,880 So when are we going to take some time to really 479 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,300 look at this model and decide how to educate 480 00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:07,900 us on educated people and how it works and how we can use the lives of and see it in action? 481 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,720 two ways. One is if there's a particular change application and one look at 482 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:19,760 see if there's impacts because you see the well impact. Secondly is we talked 483 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,920 about talking to all the stakeholders, you know, that's why we had the 484 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,340 original meeting, and get a county-wide kind of needs and basis, you know, lose 485 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:36,340 water, rich, choose water, or what can we do to use that model to evaluate those 486 00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:43,080 needs and so the next one is if it's all right that the board's okay the phase 487 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,680 two would be then collect and get a policy you know get the stakeholders at 488 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,320 all that's why we have that beginning meeting at the college talk there then and 489 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,860 say this is what our future forecast needs are and with the county and then and then 490 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:04,120 use the model to evaluate those needs and say well over that's okay that's 491 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:10,080 can be a problem. Spring City will have to send water to Fairview, because they can't 492 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:18,020 get it or Maroni, you know, is okay. We'll have to limit both the source and then 493 00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:21,620 that's what I would say when you can do that, but that's the phase two we said. 494 00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:29,940 Okay, and so we need to set up a meeting like we had before, and also I think it would be 495 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:36,300 be very good and justice is not here because he ran into problems, but I think it would be 496 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,220 good to have this on our wet day as one of the- 497 00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:40,240 That's what I was thinking. 498 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,780 So is it something that we can't go through as a board to have an understanding of it before 499 00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:45,040 that? 500 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,700 We can. 501 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,900 Well, I think we, I've got to say, and I'm saying we can take it out to the public, but we 502 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:56,700 as a board need to understand this model to where you feel comfortable with it so that when 503 00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:02,280 you get questions and the bigger state holders or the county as the public 504 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,980 itself starts asking you could say you know this is what it does it doesn't do 505 00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:13,340 this and we can do this we can we can look at your small drainage and we can 506 00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:18,740 give you a pretty good idea of what's happening. Let me pose this next board 507 00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:24,360 many men I will bring our modeling groundwater person you can explain the whole 508 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,240 model and show you what the results are to that would be so that you are informed to answer 509 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:35,360 questions which then what day would be two board means after that basically right yeah I would 510 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,800 like that because then we can see we can poke a few holes in that well you know and we didn't have 511 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:48,380 any we have enough for one day I mean you what's his name brought it in the shoulders then then 512 00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:52,860 and show this, but now that it's complete, right? 513 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,240 Yep. 514 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,380 Unless we find something that needs to be adjusted, 515 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,140 but that's just part of how things work. 516 00:42:58,140 --> 00:43:00,620 Yeah, and that's if we find better data and newer data, 517 00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:02,420 then we'll add it into it. 518 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:02,900 So. 519 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:07,160 All right, I will schedule that and get us, 520 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,760 we'll carve out some time on the next agenda. 521 00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:11,940 If you'll give that, we'll do a presentation of the board 522 00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:12,880 and take questions. 523 00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:17,680 So board members, the question is, do we 524 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,920 We want to have a work session before our board meeting to do this in, or do we want to 525 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960 do it during our board meeting, or a work session after. 526 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:30,360 How long are they going to take? 527 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,820 It's going to take at least half an hour. 528 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,400 I bet they're longer than I thought they'd say. 529 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,160 I'm thinking you're going to be an hour of time you get the discussion going. 530 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,280 Half an hour of presentation, there's been 15, 20 minutes to half hour for questions. 531 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,660 So we're adding an hour to the board meeting and I think it's going to be a fast-gold 532 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:50,920 AR. 533 00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:54,380 Well, can you come earlier? 534 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,200 Can you stay later? 535 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:56,360 Stay right here. 536 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:56,880 Okay. 537 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:05,200 I mean, I'm just asking because, and if you guys don't, you know, don't want to stay later, 538 00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:07,580 you can be excused. 539 00:44:07,580 --> 00:44:17,960 you find modeling of surface water flow fascinating yeah well but I mean I just we're going to 540 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,660 talk about Darcy's lawn we talked about the radiance going to be you know you're going to have to 541 00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:32,660 go this down that was the dumb down well keep working okay so we're good on that and we'll just 542 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:48,240 plan that way. I know what I heard and I know what you mean. So now we got to have 543 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:54,780 a discussion because our board meeting starts at 6.30. If we want this for a word, we'll 544 00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:59,770 We'll be through everything else in 30 minutes. 545 00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:02,900 Okay. 546 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:07,580 We better close the meeting. 547 00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:12,980 Well, 548 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:34,320 I mean, I think we should plan to have the one portion at the end, so that anybody who's here for other stuff, they don't need to stay, but they are welcome to stay. I mean, to this. 549 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,380 public means. 550 00:45:38,580 --> 00:45:40,760 Okay, outreach and education. 551 00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:47,630 Anything? How's our website stuff coming up? 552 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:52,470 I guess I should ask. How's our website stuff coming up? Well, you know what it's like. 553 00:45:52,810 --> 00:45:57,710 It's up and running, so that's great. It's up and running. Okay, you can go on and access it. 554 00:45:58,450 --> 00:46:03,890 I've got two things I can add to that. As we've got two little, doesn't require 555 00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:10,570 coding I have them on my website right now and they're just little we can put 556 00:46:10,570 --> 00:46:14,750 them on the website and it shows one is it just as a summary of all the 557 00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:20,390 projects and then one shows a map and how much has been completed and it shows 558 00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:24,750 a map of where the projects are in a little summary. So that's already great 559 00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:29,790 to go to the website. I think that'd be good. That would really show that we're doing 560 00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:36,350 Yeah, so we have a public and just right now he hasn't set up where it links to my company's website and then that's on 561 00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:43,450 I have just a sample water page and so that's on there, but we've thought let's remove the one middle step and have it just be as a 562 00:46:43,450 --> 00:46:46,930 Click on. Yeah, because that's what we want our web page to be 563 00:46:46,930 --> 00:46:49,750 Look at it. They can literally just 564 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:53,350 Reference each other that way we update it as we get projects and 565 00:46:54,350 --> 00:46:59,610 So I don't know if Scott was here, but I was trying to reserve the room for wet day and he 566 00:47:01,170 --> 00:47:16,070 trying to get that code. So we just get the discount. And then he caught them. They were asking if we were a really county entities and we get it for free or we are for not. 567 00:47:16,070 --> 00:47:27,410 No, we're counting, we're counting, except for the county commissioners, so I mean, but we're, I mean, we're fine-paying, too, but there's a discount for public entities. 568 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:34,630 If you were like a non-profit, but if you're a county entity, we just give this a free, so ask. 569 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:37,350 If you don't want a county entity, I want them to decide. 570 00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:41,430 Yeah, because we are a dot, dot, we are a county entity. 571 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:47,050 He got me and I said, well, I can tell it's the San Pete show. We are counting 572 00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:57,530 Trying to get the application in the stuff and put down the 573 00:47:57,530 --> 00:48:00,290 We are going to have a go for the test. 574 00:48:00,730 --> 00:48:00,950 Yeah. 575 00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:02,090 All right. 576 00:48:02,350 --> 00:48:03,630 It doesn't totally get me. 577 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:04,470 She would ask him. 578 00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:05,450 I'm out. 579 00:48:05,830 --> 00:48:06,150 I'm out. 580 00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:07,010 Have him ask. 581 00:48:07,390 --> 00:48:08,610 He'll fill him in. 582 00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:09,390 I'm meeting. 583 00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:12,090 He's been winding down. 584 00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:14,570 He'll come back wearing fancy clothes and stuff. 585 00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:15,170 All right. 586 00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:18,330 Okay. 587 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:21,090 Anything else on outreach and education? 588 00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:24,570 All right. 589 00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:25,890 Did they get this gender? 590 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:27,590 You got this gender kind of put together? 591 00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:33,350 I think Justin's getting it put together, you know, he's working on his vendors, right? 592 00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:39,450 That's what he's working on now, and trying to figure out how we can get vendors. 593 00:48:40,510 --> 00:48:46,070 We'll learn to have a little fly a bit to give to these businesses, because you're trying 594 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:49,170 to explain it to them, and they don't understand. 595 00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:58,220 Yeah. Just a blank one. Yeah. Maybe we're just not helping the right people, but okay. 596 00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:09,970 And something to get out to the irrigation company. Yeah. What's the best way to get it to your 597 00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:15,570 irrigation company, do you think? Yeah, both of your irrigation companies. How would you get 598 00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:21,630 information on this, receive it? How would you like to receive it? I just said that's my email. 599 00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:50,210 We can put it in the sample whatever the messenger no the one that comes out the pyramid 600 00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:57,270 It goes to everybody in the county and we can if you don't reach out person contact 601 00:49:57,270 --> 00:50:04,350 their nation companies we know that but we're going to do it on multiple levels we 602 00:50:04,350 --> 00:50:09,090 will reach out but I work with Justin we got what we put it all the emails 603 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:18,180 because for their data and this is a work in progress it'll grow okay there's 604 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:28,850 Nothing really on the narrows other than we're in another lawsuit because we love lawsuits 605 00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:36,230 Okay, I set out an email to everyone. I did receive 606 00:50:37,370 --> 00:50:41,280 For weapons the miniatured work. Oh, yeah, that's right 607 00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:51,330 One from them in engineering and one from Biowest one is for 16,000 and the others for like seven 608 00:50:51,330 --> 00:51:00,330 7,600. So it's just under half. But for that scale of work, BiOS is the firm who 609 00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:06,130 did all the work before. They included more field work days, more mapping, and more time 610 00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:09,870 to get with the core. Being that this is essentially going to the core and it's going to be the 611 00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:15,990 basis for doing our permitting. If the board is okay, I would like to approve the BiOS 612 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:16,370 one. 613 00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:22,370 And they don't have one day of field work, and so... 614 00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:26,930 Because bilewester was the first one that was in the email, or was that... 615 00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:27,630 It was the bigger one. 616 00:51:28,110 --> 00:51:29,210 It was the bigger cost. 617 00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:32,850 Yeah, it was the PDF, the other one was the word five. 618 00:51:33,250 --> 00:51:33,650 Okay. 619 00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:35,550 Good. 620 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:37,630 And they have the data from the last time. 621 00:51:38,030 --> 00:51:40,510 They do, and they've been up there several times before. 622 00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:41,930 They did the delineation before. 623 00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:48,570 but they have, in their estimate of what it's going to take, I think, more closer to what's 624 00:51:48,570 --> 00:51:53,910 going to take to deal with the core. The other one did what we asked for, but it's just 625 00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:59,070 the bare minimum. It is, they have one day of field work and then they're writing a report. 626 00:51:59,830 --> 00:52:03,490 I think we're going to have tweets, we're going to have follow-ups, we're going to have conversations 627 00:52:03,490 --> 00:52:09,510 with the core and we're going to need a good partner for that science because what the 628 00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:17,150 course codes as they basically, for the reservoir of these 404 permits, they want a new EIS 629 00:52:17,150 --> 00:52:19,650 that core-based EIS. 630 00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:22,010 Of course they do. 631 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:22,610 Yeah. 632 00:52:24,130 --> 00:52:25,950 This is 4th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st. 633 00:52:26,610 --> 00:52:27,590 Virgin and 1st. 634 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:32,530 Those were very reclamation EIS and even though they were cooperating agencies. 635 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:40,530 is, anyway, this removes that obstacle, and I think our person you're going to select 636 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:45,810 is going to be working on a lot of other tasks to get that from you to the self. 637 00:52:45,810 --> 00:52:50,790 Well, and I mean, even if we went with the other one, they would say, well, this is what 638 00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:58,010 we agreed on. This is what was in the contract. Exactly. And therefore, we have all this out 639 00:52:58,010 --> 00:53:04,150 an expense, so it's going to be this much per day, this much per hour, I think it'll be more. 640 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:09,990 These guys, they said it's going to be 210 hour days to go to the fieldwork. We're going to do 641 00:53:10,570 --> 00:53:14,310 the mapping, especially. These guys just said they'd rather afford not mapping. 642 00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:18,950 The mapping is how we're going to prove our data to the core. We're going to say that. 643 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:25,890 Well, yeah, that's what we have to do. And especially with the high water mark and the flood plain and 644 00:53:25,890 --> 00:53:35,750 all that. So you prefer the bio waste. I think that's closer and be it's getting even 645 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:42,050 though it's almost double. It's going to be when you're done, you're going to spend 646 00:53:42,050 --> 00:53:49,210 the same amount money and they seem to understand the issues up front. And that is who we've used 647 00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:52,550 before. And they are familiar with your product and have been up here before. Well, then 648 00:53:52,550 --> 00:53:58,690 The way they work this is, the total project cost is actually exceed 16K. 649 00:53:58,750 --> 00:54:02,870 That was to say also if they do it cheaper they will spend less. 650 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:08,130 So they're already taking into account contingencies. 651 00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:10,870 Yeah, and you can see they've broken out of them. 652 00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:14,790 Yeah, they've broken out into three different sections. 653 00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:20,250 So I'll make a motion that we hire my own way. 654 00:54:20,810 --> 00:54:23,630 Yeah, I would just add them as a sub-pensal, the two are existing. 655 00:54:24,050 --> 00:54:26,450 I'm going to go to the self-project or narrow. 656 00:54:27,210 --> 00:54:27,650 Second? 657 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:29,270 Second, stand. 658 00:54:30,010 --> 00:54:30,490 All in favor? 659 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:31,230 All right. 660 00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:32,530 Thank you. 661 00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:33,130 Okay. 662 00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:35,690 So take care of that. 663 00:54:39,770 --> 00:54:40,210 Okay. 664 00:54:40,530 --> 00:54:41,570 Anything from the public? 665 00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:47,070 Yeah, so last month I was going to brought out what I do is the important stuff. 666 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:52,270 So also working in the program and processing wealth of well-change applications. 667 00:54:54,930 --> 00:55:00,350 I set out to bring some examples this month and I don't even look at change applications 668 00:55:00,350 --> 00:55:01,410 within the horseshoe. 669 00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:09,190 You know, and I don't think that horseshoe juice area is any different than the entire 670 00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:11,290 sample area is 65. 671 00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:16,390 And so I mean this three, I mean I protested on. 672 00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:21,050 but I think there's huge value to the district protesting as well. 673 00:55:22,030 --> 00:55:26,050 And I talked to Hayden Cunningham down, Richfield, 674 00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:30,690 and expressed my concern about how do you dry out? 675 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:33,090 So if you're going from a well, 676 00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:34,630 as they're getting this ground, 677 00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:37,790 you move it to... 678 00:55:37,790 --> 00:55:40,350 And then to say the well was supplemental 679 00:55:41,230 --> 00:55:44,710 to land that was adjudicated in the culture group. 680 00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:50,710 To me, it's supplemental. If it's water in the same grounds as the UK, it's supplementary. 681 00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:58,490 In nature. So if you move that, the ground has never been water, and it was not in a cost decree, you're going to increase your acreage. 682 00:55:59,130 --> 00:56:04,990 And so I ask, hey, does it? How do you account for that? Because you're going to increase your acreage. 683 00:56:04,990 --> 00:56:08,610 And he says, if it is a supplemental water right, they won't approve it. 684 00:56:10,070 --> 00:56:13,230 which I don't believe, because I see an approved supplemental model. 685 00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:14,790 He hasn't wanted to get out of it. 686 00:56:15,010 --> 00:56:17,090 There's a well below Mount Pleasant. 687 00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:20,390 There was supplemental to Pleasant Creek. 688 00:56:20,750 --> 00:56:26,170 And then, I mean, there's certificate that was issued for the appropriation. 689 00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:31,270 It specifically says in here that it was supplemental to Pleasant Creek's shares. 690 00:56:32,410 --> 00:56:33,470 So it's a supplemental model. 691 00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:36,010 Well, the vision of it is approved. 692 00:56:36,010 --> 00:56:42,310 18 change applications off of that well, and no grounds been right now, and the majority 693 00:56:42,310 --> 00:56:47,150 of those wells are on for new homes in areas that was never watered. 694 00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:55,150 The other examples in Spring City, there was a well-drills of supplemental well within 695 00:56:55,150 --> 00:56:55,830 city limits. 696 00:56:56,310 --> 00:57:02,370 It was part of the severe river decree, there was supplemental related change of application 697 00:57:02,370 --> 00:57:07,270 to move it to some other ground that was within the subvariable adjudication, which is fine. 698 00:57:08,590 --> 00:57:12,370 But then they've recently done a third change application to now move it 699 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:19,270 to ground that has never been water. So I protested it on the basis of how you're going to see 700 00:57:19,810 --> 00:57:25,530 the watering of that ground when you're moving it from ground that has a primary water right 701 00:57:25,530 --> 00:57:28,850 and you're moving it to ground that has never been watered. You're increasing your adjudication. 702 00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:36,270 And just this last week, the third example is there's another, and there are wells, the 703 00:57:36,270 --> 00:57:37,070 flowing wells. 704 00:57:37,590 --> 00:57:40,930 And again, it's supplemental to the severity of the creed. 705 00:57:41,470 --> 00:57:49,290 They file 12 change applications just this week, moving from that flowing well to 12 706 00:57:49,290 --> 00:57:53,810 homes, and those flowing wells are supplement. 707 00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:59,350 I was going to bring that up, that's before, I agree with your assessment. 708 00:58:00,110 --> 00:58:06,950 In the old days, it was, you had 40 anchor pieces, it was watered by a canal, and then 709 00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:12,050 it had a supplemental well, some late season, or if the canal didn't, then you used supplemental, 710 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:14,030 and it was all a mixed bag. 711 00:58:14,170 --> 00:58:15,030 You had them all together. 712 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:21,910 And then the stage started peeling them apart and giving five acres went to the well, 35 713 00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:25,830 five acres one to the, you know, that's how they went forward. And that's not how supplemental 714 00:58:26,310 --> 00:58:31,770 rights were treated in the decrees. And I agree here, it's been any acreage that way. 715 00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:37,790 Yeah, and a lot of these wells, they weren't filing, they weren't documented, it's supplemental. 716 00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:43,190 But if you look at them, it's obvious they were supplemental because they're supplementing 717 00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:48,070 acreage that was adjudicated in the cost of decree. So how could it not be supplemental? 718 00:58:50,330 --> 00:58:56,010 The one from the Mount Pleasant Well is specifically stated in the certificate from the appropriation 719 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:58,130 that it was supplemented. 720 00:58:58,130 --> 00:59:04,850 The other two examples, it does specifically state and the one to deal just claim, I can 721 00:59:04,850 --> 00:59:10,190 know them both deal just claims, and deal just claims to never get, but then they'll be 722 00:59:10,190 --> 00:59:16,050 certified, they'll never get evaluated, they'll never get approved, they're just, I follow 723 00:59:16,050 --> 00:59:21,390 application because I can say that I've been using this water but now you're changing 724 00:59:21,390 --> 00:59:26,530 that diligence claim which is supplemental to ground that was part of the river 725 00:59:26,530 --> 00:59:34,250 decree and now you're moving that from a part-time supplemental to a full-time 726 00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:45,870 domestic and I think if the district does not protest those I think you're 727 00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:55,490 has much potential to increase the adjudication as service water to wells. 728 00:59:56,170 --> 00:59:59,970 Yeah, and that should be a part of it, and we could protest that because we said... 729 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,380 And if you're moving to a different place, then you've got to document your retirement. The 730 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:14,540 protest in this last report that moving it from irrigated acreage, the service by horse irrigation 731 01:00:14,540 --> 01:00:22,580 to ground it has never been watered. Yeah. I think the division should make the applicant 732 01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:26,660 going to show up front, the ground is going to be dry. 733 01:00:27,140 --> 01:00:31,140 The problem with the division is they say in the approval 734 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,460 that you have to see the wording and see from watering 735 01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:36,820 this ground, but they never follow up on it. 736 01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:39,600 Because that's going to be a certificate then 737 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,700 it's supposed to be all done, but it's never really 738 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:42,420 document. 739 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,400 When they proof it, it's supposed to be done going to prove. 740 01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:47,880 And they never proof of. 741 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,840 They never show in the proof that the ground was. 742 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,960 So, as well as Cap, the ground, yeah. 743 01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,620 There's, for example, there's one, I concluded these on the summer sheet I sent you. 744 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,120 There's a gentleman by Captain Worthington, he has eight change applications, they're 745 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:06,540 all for one. 746 01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:06,960 Wow. 747 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:09,380 Well, there was just eight in this last period. 748 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,020 There's probably four or more. 749 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:12,120 You got eight. 750 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:13,600 All 12 were for the same thing. 751 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,120 Yeah, okay. 752 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,460 Oh, that's maybe Mike's print sheet. 753 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,140 Not anyway. 754 01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:24,920 They protest them all but and they're moving well the well and I hadn't gone through what the basis was 755 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,840 But I suspected they were inside that's why I left them on the sheet fees, but they're showing well the well 756 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,060 So under the current criteria you would protest 757 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,660 But I use that last step, I use the full memory for you to order 758 01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:40,120 Well, that's what now we voted and we changed the look of that 759 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,380 I'm gonna look at the biggest thing that we did change that last week 760 01:01:43,380 --> 01:01:46,620 Yeah, but I don't I don't think it changed last week because it wasn't on the agenda 761 01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:47,760 and that's why it was on the agenda. 762 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:48,840 Okay. 763 01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:51,260 That's why you change it. 764 01:01:51,380 --> 01:01:52,580 That's why you change it. 765 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,260 Well, we have to discuss it. 766 01:01:54,340 --> 01:01:55,400 We have to discuss it. 767 01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:57,040 We have to discuss it. 768 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:05,160 We need a motion to look at evaluate and protest. 769 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:10,600 Well, the well-to-well applications, depending on. 770 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,420 And we need our criteria. 771 01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:14,420 Flag, disappointments. 772 01:02:14,420 --> 01:02:19,980 Yep, the criteria we have they're based on supplementary or they're what's their initial basis 773 01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:25,060 And I would say if it appears that it's potential supplementary 774 01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:31,880 I would go by putting the protest that it appears up on the goal and make them prove that it's not yep 775 01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:35,960 It's easier just to say that that way you're part of the record. Yes 776 01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:42,540 That was my mistake, so we need emotion 777 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:07,100 I think what you want to say is you want a motion to go test wealth well applications that 778 01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:10,160 meet the criteria that we as a board of set up. 779 01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:16,620 That means we can wiggle that and make that wiggle. 780 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,600 You can change the direction as we film you. 781 01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:19,380 Yes, we need. 782 01:03:19,860 --> 01:03:20,480 I'll second it. 783 01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:21,800 Okay. 784 01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:28,900 Do we need to pacify the supplementary staffing? 785 01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:32,220 Well, that's why he said it's based on direction you give. 786 01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,240 And right now, that is the cases of the supplementary criteria. 787 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,440 And that's a little open-ended so we can adapt and change a little. 788 01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:42,660 That's very much suggested. 789 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,270 So, any question on the motion or anything? 790 01:03:49,770 --> 01:03:51,010 Any discussion, I should say? 791 01:03:59,550 --> 01:04:07,750 I think this is really important that we do this kind of stuff, I think it's important 792 01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:09,210 that it's coming from the district. 793 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:14,390 I hope it has a value, but I guess time won't tell us. 794 01:04:15,830 --> 01:04:22,450 Well, you don't protest that it just the state will just ignore you if you can just let it happen. 795 01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:24,490 But I think that's what I'm saying. 796 01:04:24,670 --> 01:04:27,050 Someone's got to bring that for the forefront. 797 01:04:27,290 --> 01:04:34,370 I think we should have a little, especially with your study and everything. 798 01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:36,350 I think it's important that we do this. 799 01:04:36,990 --> 01:04:44,030 I think this is all fitting together on what our responsibility and duty is aboard and we're 800 01:04:44,030 --> 01:04:50,110 getting the tools, better tools so that we have better information so our protests can 801 01:04:50,110 --> 01:05:00,290 be more refined on what we're protesting and then the division will have to decide if they 802 01:05:00,290 --> 01:05:04,910 going to answer to our protest or but we'll be on the record and then if something comes 803 01:05:04,910 --> 01:05:14,030 up down the road 20 years from now this board and I wouldn't be an active year to go yeah I mean 804 01:05:14,030 --> 01:05:20,150 that should have been happening forever but it'll get us to where whoever is on this board 805 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:31,330 that this board has the power and authority to continue with legal actions on those issues so okay 806 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:36,340 There isn't anything else, we 807 01:05:38,550 --> 01:05:45,790 need to probably go into a closed session, so we need to make that motion. 808 01:05:46,170 --> 01:05:50,310 We'll make a motion that we go into a closed session to discuss upcoming litigation. 809 01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:57,260 There, for each that goes along. 810 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,080 Thank you, gentlemen. 811 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,800 Thank you. 812 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,080 Thank you. 813 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:06,300 Thank you so much. 814 01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:12,830 So, we had a second, right? 815 01:06:13,110 --> 01:06:13,210 Yes. 816 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,200 Jason Favour. 817 01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:18,000 Stan? 818 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:18,460 Yes. 819 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,840 Way to get it. 820 01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:20,600 Great, yes. 821 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,500 Matt, yes. 822 01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:22,420 Okay. 823 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,800 We're going out of the blue, open it, and then close.