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Good afternoon. I will call to order the September 3rd, 2020, six meeting of the Santa Barbara Local Agency Formation Commission. Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Commissioner Sabez.

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Here.

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Commissioner Gaia.

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Commissioner Hartman.

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Commissioner Karyako.

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Commissioner Lee.

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Commissioner Magania.

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Commissioner Mosby.

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Here.

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Mr. Nelson.

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Commissioner Patino.

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Here.

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Mr. Stark.

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Here.

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Mr. Johnson.

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Here.

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Let the record reflect that.

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Commissioner Magania.

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Commissioner Lee are absent.

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And I have heard that Commissioner Cariaco is going to be here.

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But it's running late.

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Thank you.

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Please rise and join me for the pledge of allegiance.

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Ready?

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I pledge allegiance to the fly of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one in Asia, and your God, and indifisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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The next item of business is the app.

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Approval of minutes from the August 6th, 2020, six meeting.

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Nelson moves approval.

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We have a second, patino. We have a motion and a second. Is there anybody who wishes to speak on this? Hearing none, madam clerk, would you please call the roll?

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Commissioner Gaier.

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Commissioner Hartman.

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I.

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Commissioner Carioco.

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I.

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Commissioner Johnson.

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I.

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Commissioner Nelson.

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I.

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Commissioner Patino.

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I.

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Chair Stark.

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I.

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Motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you.

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Now is the time for public comment.

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This is the time for members of the public.

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To speak on items that are not on the agenda.

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Madam Clerk, are there any requests to speak on items not on the agenda?

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Chair Stark, and members of the Commission.

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There are no requests to speak under General Public on it this time.

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Thank you.

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I conclude public comment.

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Next is the approval of the Commission of the Consent Calendar.

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Do any commissioners wish to pull any item on the consent calendar?

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Hearing none, is there any button one from the public that wishes to speak on any item on the consent calendar?

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Chair Sarkin, members of the commission. There are no requests to speak on this item.

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Thank you. I would call for a motion for the consent calendar agenda.

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Harvon, please.

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Harvon seconds.

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We have a motion in the second. Would you please call the roll?

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Mr. Gyer.

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Mr. Hartman.

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Mr. Carriacco.

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I.

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Mr. Johnson.

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I.

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Mr. Nelson.

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Hi.

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Mr. Patino.

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I.

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And Chair Stark.

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I.

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Motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you. The next item is business item number one.

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Would the clerk please read that item into the record?

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Chair Stark and Members of the Commission, this is item number one, is to consider a approval of amendments to the commissioner handbook,

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and seek what determination regarding the commissioner's conflict of interest code.

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Thank you, Mr. Executive Officer, would you please report?

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Thank you, Chair. Good afternoon.

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We will have an endless Natasha for this item.

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Thank you, Chair Stark and Members of the Commission.

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As you're all aware, state law does require every local agency to maintain a current conflict of interest code that accurately reflects our organizational structure and properly identifies all officials and employees that are required to file a form 700.

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Lofco recently received correspondence from the County of Santa Barbara regarding its conflict of interest by an annual review notice for Lofco, which is due in October of this year.

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Lofco's existing conflict of interest code was last amended and adopted in 2022.

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More recently in the last year, Lofco has updated our administrative organization chart, which is now requiring update to our current code.

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staff is bringing before you today a resolution to amend the Commission's current conflict of interest code with the proposed changes,

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which are to add a new designated position entitled Senior Analyst,

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as well as to reaffirmed designated employees may file their statements online using the e-disclosure system.

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Thank you, any commissioners have any questions or comments?

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Yes, the designated position of senior analyst is the reason for this justification for this similar to how there's certain county positions that are considered confidential.

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Or is this for a different reason?

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No, that is the same reason.

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Thank you.

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I'd like a brief clarification.

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What is due in October is amendments to our code, not when each of the people that are required

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to file the form 700 have to file.

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That's still an April, Mike, correct on that?

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That is correct.

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Every two years, the county of Santa Barbara notifies all special districts and agencies.

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um that

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The opportunity to amend their conflict of interest code is at that given time every two years.

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If there weren't any changes for our conflict of interest code, then we would just continue to maintain the same code.

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However, this year, because we have had changes within this past year with staffing, we are requesting amendments from our commission.

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Was with do respect, you would, since you would be added to the code, is that that right?

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Yeah, we are a meeting, we are a meeting our conflict code to include that new position

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that the commission added.

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That's the simple way.

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But when is an assuming office statement required?

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Within one year.

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Within a year.

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OK, thank you.

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I would ask, is there anybody in the other commissioners?

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I have many questions.

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Is there anyone from the public who would like to speak on this matter?

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Chair Storkin, members of the commission.

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There are no requests to speak on this item.

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Thank you.

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I would call for a motion.

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I'll move for approval.

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Heart and Seconds.

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We have a motion on a second.

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is there any discussion on the motion?

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Chair Stark, can we just get clarification on who made the motion?

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I believe Commissioner Gyer made the motion.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank

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you.

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If there's no discussion on the motion, would Adam Clark, would you please call the roll?

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Commissioner Gyer?

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Commissioner Hartman?

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Commissioner Carioco?

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Aye.

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Mr. Johnson, I, Mr. Nelson, I, Mr. Petina, I, Chair Stark, I, motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you. That brings us to item business item number two. Will the clerk please read that item into the record?

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Chair Stark and members of the Commission. Business item number two is to consider approval of the updated resolution and memorandum

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of understanding between special district risk management authority and Santa Barbara Lafco

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for health benefits and find that the proposed actions are not a project under

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SQL guidelines in that these are organizational or administrative activities of the government

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that will not result in director or indirect physical changes to the environment.

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Thank you. Maybe we have an executive officer report. Thank you chair and commission.

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And so Lafco is currently enrolled with STRMA.

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They provide both ancillary health benefits, vision and dental, and they are workers'

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com sponsor as well.

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So they provide these coverage as to us.

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We started these coverage as with them in 2022.

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The SDRMA board, they have updated their agreements to meet industry standards and norms and they have requested all of their participating members to update the agreements and MOUs that we have with them so that we're current and that we can continue to retain the benefits that we seek.

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So we place these on your agenda to be able to update and adopt the agreements with them and then we will afford those on so that we can retain services.

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There are any questions of that? I have an answer.

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Are there any commissioners have questions about this?

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Are there any non? Are there any members of the public that wishes to speak on this?

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Chair Stark and members of the commission. There are no requests to speak on this item.

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Thank you.

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I would call for a motion.

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Move staff recommendation.

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Item 2 of our business item.

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There's a motion and a second.

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Thank you.

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Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Okay. Commissioner Guyer.

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All right.

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Commissioner Hartman, aye.

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Commissioner Carriacos.

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Aye.

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Commissioner Johnson, aye.

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Commissioner Nelson.

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Aye. Commissioner Patino.

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Aye.

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Chair Stark.

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Motion passes unanimously.

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I understand there is a gentleman who wishes to speak on public comment the time has passed.

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I would suggest that before commissioner announcements, we give the general, which we have

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to the information item, we give the later arriving public comment person a chance to give

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you three minutes or up to three minutes in public comment if that's okay.

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The next item

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is information item number one. Would you read that into the record?

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Chair Stark in Members of the Commission, information item number one is to receive and file a status report on municipal service or paper program.

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Thank you.

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We do have a PowerPoint for this.

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Before I get into the PowerPoint, I do want to make a clarification correction and a staff report.

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In the report, inadvertently indicated that I love this to CST would be getting an adopted update to their sphere of influence.

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I wanted to make that correction clear that because IVCSD provides multiple services and they

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require multiple service reviews.

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We typically wait to adopt the spheres of influence until we've concluded all of those

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service reviews.

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So we would strike that IVCSD would be getting an updated SOI at this time at the conclusion of

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this particular service review and we would defer until we're completed all of their service

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so I want to make that clarification in the report.

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So with that, the Service Review is embarked

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back in February of this year as a commission.

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The doctorate work plan includes police fire and MS services.

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Predominantly, we've requested responses through a survey in question air

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to all of the agencies that are being evaluated

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12 and total as part of this review.

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Responses were due, and early April, we've received those, we've prepared an administrative

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draft for each of the agencies to comment and review on.

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That's currently happening right now, there are in a 30-day period where they're critiquing

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the work, having opportunity to make changes and corrections and clarifications will receive

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those will amend the report, pair it up with the remaining chapters that are due, and then

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will likely present a public release for 30 days minimum, late October November timeframe,

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in which case then we'd like to adopt the service review and update the spheres of influence

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for those agencies that were noted at the end of the year.

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So we're still on track to complete that.

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In this particular service review, we had no significant changes that we've identified

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four series of input changes, likely just going to re-confirm the existing spheres

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for four of the agencies at least.

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With one slight caveat, we'd like to read the Hollister Avenue right away segment that sits

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out in front of the airport, the city of Santa Barbara district, to the county fire protection

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district.

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So, history is, and we'll go through a slide of what that looks like, and we'll kind

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of explain all of that.

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In addition, there were seven study areas that were being considered throughout this and will propose the tentative recommendations for the commission to consider.

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So with that, the city of Bulton that requested what we're classifying is one area, which includes three parts, essentially because it includes their measure of their urban growth boundary measure that they passed.

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In 2024, we evaluated that those sites include three areas outside of their existing city boundary. The intent

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is for future annexation for them down the future. Mainly, largely, to allow some reasonable additional

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housing growth. Should the need arise, likely when the next housing cycle comes through, and

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and they need some additional space.

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So we evaluated that, those three sites,

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and this is the three sites, just north

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in of their city limits, and towards the east.

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Right now, the conclusion is that we not amend

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the sphere of influence under the MSR program,

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but rather we defer and allow the city

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to apply for a formal sphere of influence application change.

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And in which case we can identify these three sites specifically and do site specific analysis.

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When the time is ready and it's a lot closer to when anticipated annexation might occur.

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The city of Santa Maria also requested essentially what we're calling one area and also includes multiple to the parcels.

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The intent again is to allow some mixed development of commercial and housing and institutional uses.

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This site was considered and evaluated in a previous service for you for the city, and the conclusion was that when the time was right, the city would apply for an application for a sphere in that opportunity.

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Well, the city completed their journal plan update. They have indicated that they anticipate submitting an application that largely covers this area in the near future.

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And so, under the service review and its program, we're deferring to that application to amend an official

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severe boundary for them.

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We would, a lot like Buldin, we'll wait for them to apply for a specific boundary request

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and we'll evaluate it.

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But we want to make sure we highlight the contemplated areas that the city is anticipating

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and the types of development that come that allows the commission and opportunity to sort

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to understand what might be coming for you in the future.

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Interesting.

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A bit of question on that slide.

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Or these slides in general, is that right?

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Commissioner Nelson.

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I know it's been past practice that to bring forward

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sometimes a spirit of influence and annexation request at the same time.

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Are you anticipating that with these ones here in the old tenant,

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Santa Maria?

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Are you thinking this would be done as spirit of influence is first

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and then the conversations have been request for a spirit of influence first?

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They can concurrently apply for a sphere change and annexation that often requires some sort of form of development moving through the process and being and having gotten the entitlements and I don't think either of those cities are at that stage.

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The City of Lampoke is also requested one area.

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They are currently working with the county on a Podger

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Meadows project.

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The intent, again, is to allow the builder's

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Germany project that was submitted to the county to be

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processed and then ultimately eventually annexed

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into the city through an application by the landowners

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or either the city.

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And again, the Bodger Meadow site is a subset of the larger Bailey Avenue component that the commission evaluated a few years back.

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And so this one actually has development that's going through the process.

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And so we are again deferring until that development is approved and likely allowing a concurrent application for this application.

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Again, so the recommendation is to not amend this fear at this time through the MSR program,

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but allow an application to come forward and make the commission aware of what's on the ground

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and what's being processed.

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The city of Solving also included a request of three parcels that kind of surrounded some

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of the areas of the city.

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Again, the intent was they would have some sort of master plan community that would be coming forward.

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They would evaluate that, and then they've been contemplating some additional parcels along the Alessal Ranch area.

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That would expand the ranch opportunities for some glamping experiences and whatnot within adjacent to what they are.

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30, sir, that sits within the city boundary. And so these areas here, just west of the city, is the master plan area that they're evaluating.

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In addition, the city convened an exploratory boundary committee to look at whether they would request expansion of their sphere and future annexation to Lafco.

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I understand the City Council took an action recently that gave direction for their staff to

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come forward to Lafco and it seek some sort of boundary application for a sphere of change.

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So, it may include these, it may include a broader subset of this.

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We'll see what that application looks like when it comes in.

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But for this purpose, we evaluated what they anticipated future development might look like for

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based on conversations they've had with landowners that are interested in pursuing development.

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Area 2 was the L.A. Sol Ranch, that fingerling that stands down as the L.A. Sol Ranch,

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proper within the city, they're looking to expand adjacent to that some operations.

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So at least evaluated and again concluded that we would likely wait until the formal application came in before we

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considered any kind of application to amend the sphere.

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And lastly is the city of Santa Barbara and county fire.

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We'll have over the past that looked at reorganization activities that the commission has approved.

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These date back early in 1970s, 1980s, and prior decisions that the commission has

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I've made decisions on past boards or past commissions, have evaluated, and then we're looking

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at that Hollister Avenue right away area.

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And again, Hollister Avenue intent here is that County Fire acts as a backup of fire

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service for the airport.

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So, the airport property itself is within county fires service boundary.

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This one little strip out in front is not, and so to clarify the role in responsibilities,

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we think it'd be appropriate to clean up that boundary, officially amend the sphere of influence

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for them, and then allow essentially a set up for a future annexation of that right-of-way

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by the district or through the Board of Supervisors Action to initiate some sort of annexation.

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Mr. Brader, I have a question I apologize for my ignorance and advance.

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The area one parcels, could you refresh our recollections to what is being detached from what you

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acknowledges being detached from what I will? So that's this map here.

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So, as history tells us, all of the areas in red have been annexed into the city over time

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and through that reorganization process, they were intended to be detached from the fire district.

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But there is no official formal record of detachment.

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And so we wanted to make it clear that the intent of the commission was to detach those.

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without having to go through another formal application resolution process.

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So we are through this service review, acknowledging that past actions

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were intended to detach these areas as they annexed into the city,

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they would be taking out of the county fire district.

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And that is the way operationally things work today,

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but we just don't have a very clean record to cement that.

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So, through an adoption of the service review, we are going to use that as the action that

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the commission has come up.

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They formally go back, formally go back into the city.

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They're already in the city.

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They're already in the city.

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They're already in the city.

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We're just going to formally acknowledge that they're out of the county fire district.

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Thank you.

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Sure.

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That's area one.

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There was a number of those, as you saw, that sort of fell on that bucket of their record

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It's just didn't reflect.

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I'd just had a question about that.

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So they're already in the city.

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Should I also assume that there was a traffic change done and those were eliminated as part

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of the TRA for those areas?

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Correct.

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So those areas are not providing any tax revenue to the fire district now.

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They're just on paper, not detached.

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They're on, officially on paper.

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We don't have a record of that attachment,

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which we wanted to clarify through this process.

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Okay, but there's no tax.

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There's no tax. It's already been exchanged. Everything's been transferred to the city. All services

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all calls. Officially, we're head been going to the city.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Congressman. Mr. Prater,

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I have a question with regards to how the fire service is currently

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dispatched in their units. It's the nearest available truck. You see a lot of that in Santa

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Barbara, how does that impact this and does that policy change their spirit and influence?

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That's a good question.

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So we've noted that new dispatch arrangement with the closest response vehicle through

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a centralized dispatch.

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That in itself doesn't change the pattern of services per se and it wouldn't change anybody's

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of influence or responsibility.

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We are looking at and documenting what that looks like in actual dollars.

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At the end of the day, whatever closest unit was responded to,

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is supposed to either be build or have in-kind services for that call and that response.

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And so that particular operation and how that gets tracked is something that

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picked our interest to make sure that there is some tracking of that,

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which regional central dispatch is doing.

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They have software to do that.

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And so we're documenting that through this service review.

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And we will monitor how that operation moves forward and make sure

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that adequate funding is sufficient for that model.

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But at this time, it's one year in, and we don't know,

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but it's something that we are tracking through these service reviews

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so that subsequent reviews will be able to comment and document

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as to whether we think that's an efficient model or not.

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Thank you.

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Continue.

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OK.

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area two is this little area in yellow that little strip there. So that's the right away segment.

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All of the red area is dual service by county fire and city fire department.

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And so in order to get to it or if there's something to happen right out in front,

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There's misunderstanding of who's responsible party, ultimately who has to retain the call

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response or the bill in this case, because now they do a first closest responder,

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but then they will track who's supposed to pay for that service.

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And so in order to clean that up, we're going to amend this sphere for this little segment

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and then request that the fire district come in for an annexation to formally add it back in.

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So, at this level, the commission has the authority to amend spheres as you see fit through either the search review program,

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or through an action directed by the commission to have staff bring an item back or through a formal application of a sphere of influence,

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To actually annex that, it has to come from either the landowner or the district themselves.

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So the commission or staff, we don't have the ability to formally move that back in,

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but we can set the stage for that, and that's what we're doing.

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And again, shares of influence, a good segue into the 20 years sort of physical service boundary,

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where we think they're going to be providing services.

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Again, it's not a land use tool for that purpose.

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It's to help you make decisions on future applications that might come forward.

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An annexation is required to have the boundary in its sphere of influence if it's not

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then a concurrent action would have to take place in order for that to occur.

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And again, these usually are areas that are close to a jurisdictional boundary.

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As you saw all of the city boundaries, they were adjacent to the city limits.

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We're not looking at areas that would be beyond a parcel linked beyond or not.

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That is not allowed by Quartizinox Hospirgac, and they'd have to be contiguous.

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And then, again, if an area is within the sphere of influence, that can either be annexed

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or an out of agency service agreement can be authorized.

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And there's a shortened review process through an out of agency service agreement.

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And if it is...

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Within a sphere of influence and meets a threat to health and safety.

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Right.

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Commissioner Curia.

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Yeah, good question.

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For the two areas by the airport, is public noticing something that's already occurred

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in terms of noticing an outreach, something that's already occurred, something that's

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pending, something that's not it all required.

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I imagine there would be some required.

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Yeah, so there's a requirement to a when you amend this year of influence to include either direct

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mailing or through a paper. So this notice has been added for this MSR and we'll complete another

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one when we go to adopt this and we need at least the minimum 21 day notice. And who's the responsible

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agency for doing the noticing?

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We are.

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Life goes.

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And so, how does that work when you have one jurisdiction and another jurisdiction

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so close to each other?

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So, is there a requirement for noticing directly to effected resident, potentially affected residents

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or is this just something that you put a notice on the newspaper and that's sufficient?

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Yeah, so the requirement depends on the size and who is affected and how many boundaries we're

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if it's greater than 1,000 people that are going to be affected

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and simply a notice in the paper.

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So, if it's less, then we've got to do a direct

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mailing plus 300 foot buffer of that boundary.

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Okay, so in this particular situation.

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In this case, because we can lump everybody in,

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it meets the 1,000 foot and so we'd likely do it in a paper.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Continue.

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Okay, I think the concluding side is,

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are this is a municipal service review required by the Quartesie Knox Hertzberg Act before we update

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or adopt spheres of influences. Again, it's an informational piece of document for the commission

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to understand. We evaluate each of these jurisdictions ability to provide the type of service

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that they're obligated to provide. There are seven legislative factors that we must evaluate. We can

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include additional factors, and we often do, in this case, we've picked up some mental health

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services that aren't common within a legislative factor, but we felt was important

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and it's your main topic to talk about.

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The commission has also asked about overtime and it's used.

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So we've added those components to this service review, and you'll see that in here.

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In the end, we hope to produce a public review draft.

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We'll notice that for a 30-day public review period,

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an ultimate adoption likely in our December meeting.

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Again, we're amending only three spheres, in this case, not four,

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out of the 12-day disease, and that is all three-fire districts.

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So, are there any other particular questions on behalf of the answer any?

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Thank you, any further commissioner questions?

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Are there any members of the public that wish to speak on this?

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There are some of the members of the commission.

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There is a request to speak on this item from Rafael Castillo.

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Thank you.

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Go ahead, sir.

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This is new for me.

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Well, good afternoon, my name is Rafael Castillo.

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I am the Community Development Director

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for the City of Solving.

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And I first want to thank the Commission

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and the Lafca staff for taking on an MSR review.

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I've been in municipal planning for well over 15 years now.

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And this is the first time I've seen

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an MSR review in a comprehensive nature.

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So Kudos to y'all.

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I do want to read a letter that was provided

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to you, Penn by our city manager,

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and read it into the record.

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So, the primary mission of the Santa Barbara local agency formation commission, or that's

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be Lafco, is to manage the orderly formation growth boundaries of cities and special districts

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within Santa Barbara County while ensuring the public services can be delivered efficiently,

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efficiently through these districts. Since it's incorporation in 1985, the City of Solving

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is not requested amendments to its sphere of influence. The city has experienced only three minor

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and excations during this time period, including two small subdivisions in the acquisition

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of land for Sunnyfields Park. Assolving looks towards the future with a backdrop of realities

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facing California cities today due to various legislation efforts from the state. City leadership

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believes that this is appropriate time to carefully evaluate whether our existing,

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if you're observant for it's continues to reflect our future needs.

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Like, many of you may say,

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Quality Sue California, solving faces an increasingly difficult dilemma. Created in part by mandated housing requirements, limited availability of vacant parcels within our community boundary.

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The city has completed its required resounding compliance with the Department of Housing and Community Development, or HCD, and has amended its zoning ordinance to accommodate and fill housing.

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These changes have spurred infill development within our village court, along with housing

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applications within our resound sites, so clearly what we've done is working.

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Solving has done its part to help evaluate our local housing crisis.

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However, our community, along with others across the state, face fundamental choices,

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accommodating additional growth through greater infill, increased densities, including building

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upward, or consider carefully panned, planned outward growth.

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For a small community such as Solving, neither approach should be considered an isolation, nor

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without careful consideration to the impact of our neighbors in the Sienian S Valley.

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Sienian is a special place because of its unique balance of open space, agricultural

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lands, rural landscapes, and most of all strong communities.

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Solving recognizes that decisions regarding its future boundaries have impacts beyond our

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city limits.

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In the consideration of future growth should be undertaken carefully, transparently, and

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with an understanding of importance of preserving the character that make our valley so unique.

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At the same time, the city must respond to the responsibility for its long-term sustainability.

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This includes exploring housing opportunities to diversify and strengthen its water supply portfolio,

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providing for future housing needs, unlocking right away for plants, Indian, and Valley Trail.

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An additional infrastructure that will provide emergency ingress and egress with any potential westward expansion,

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and finally identifying appropriate economic development opportunities.

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The continued growth and activity associated with Vanderberg Space Force Base

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in our region serves as an important economic catalyst,

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and we believe it would be prudent to consider how solving and the broader

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valley can benefit from the new opportunities and partnerships this creates.

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Our city staff has reviewed Lafco's staff report,

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and the draft missile service review,

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and with the recent direction of the city solving council,

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respectively, your QuestLafco directed staff to consider broader range of potential sphere

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of influence study areas, including an expansion of steady area 1 to allow for more comprehensive

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evaluation of potential future growth and service opportunities.

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Retain annexation study area 2 that has been previously identified as there remains interest

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by both the property owners and the city.

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Evaluate a potential additional study area north of the city along Alamo Pintato Road corridor,

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and evaluate a potential additional study area at Southeast of the city is existing city limits

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as fair of influence.

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I've shown in your attachment in the letter, and finally consider analyzing a removal

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of a portion of the city's existing sphere of influence to the east, including developing

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developed properties within the Janet Ackers and Quail Ridge Neighborhoods.

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The purpose of this effort should not simply be to expand Solvings' potential future boundaries,

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but also take into consideration sphere of influence at more accurately reflects logical future-growth areas

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to ensure that well thought out master plan development along with efficient provisions of public

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services. This message was clearly conveyed by the city's urban growth boundary exploration

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committee, a group of 13 local residents recently convened to analyze potential expansion of the

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city's SLI in light of state housing mandates infrastructure needs, economic development, and the

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pressure created by the limitations of our existing urban growth boundary. City staff believes

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the Janet Acres and Quail Ridge neighborhoods may be more appropriately served by the long-term

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by the San Diego Community Services District and continue any potential future growth,

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although minimal under the County San Diego Community Plan.

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Evaluating the removal of these areas while simultaneously studying other areas would provide

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an opportunity for a more comprehensive and balanced land-use planning approach that would also

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be more comprehensive, including potential funding, establishments of green belts, that are

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most often barely thoughts when it comes to policy versus actual implementation.

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Our request should not be interpreted as a request to annex these areas, but instead provide

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the background evaluation of whether these areas are best served by our municipal services.

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The city of solving looks forward to continuing with dialogue with SBLAPCO, Santa Barbara County,

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and our neighboring communities, affected property owners, and other key stakeholders with

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a shared goal of accommodating solving's long-term needs while maintaining the community character

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that has made the city and has value such a special place.

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Thank you.

522
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:37,790
Thank you, Mr. Kuzzi.

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I got a question for you, if you don't mind, it appears

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looking at the three attachments that you provided

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that the area that you're proposing to add to the study

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is predominantly agriculture, is it accurate?

527
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It is an accurate assessment.

528
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:59,710
Again, as I mentioned, it's a sphere of influence.

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And our sphere has not changed since 1985 and normally during an annexation process you do need larger parcels to accommodate a master plan growth approach.

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So that was a yes. Yes, yes. Thank you.

531
00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:20,000
I understand. I've got your letter. Thank you.

532
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Commissioner Hartman. Thank you. I'm glad to see the reference to Green Belt in the letter.

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There was a time historically when the county, solving and built and were actively engaged in negotiations to establish a Green Belt.

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And I'm hoping to launch that again, I think that that would be very important if you take

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the agricultural land, there's still what people value about the Sanyna's Valley is we've

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got different townships that are separated.

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Each has their distinct identity and there's working landscapes and open space between them.

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And I think it's really important to give some assurance going forward to the residents that

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will be maintained. And so I have spoken with elected representatives as well as the city manager

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in both cities. And so I just hope you will take it back to them that maybe it's time now

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that we get working on the screenvels agreement in a serious way.

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I wholeheartedly agree. Again, I looked at it back. It was a 2000, early 2000s. I was still in college

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then. And a great professor once told me it's great if it's written on a piece of paper but doesn't

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mean anything if it's not actually implementable. And so that's where we feel that expanding to the

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West we can concrete use policies as well as the master planning effort to put into perpetuity

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and actual green belt that's funded. And that's the biggest key is creating the strong sense of

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communities because as you mentioned the Sanana's value has so many strong knit communities and

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retaining the differences between the two is what's best comparative to seeing a sprawl

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and blending of each individual community.

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The only difference is just seeing a road sign.

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If we go forward with the Green Belt, which I hope we do, I think that has to come back to

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Lafco.

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It's a complicated process.

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Thank you.

555
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,060
Thank you so much.

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This is an information item.

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It's not a Mr. Frater.

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Are you sure you asked for any other members of the public that wish to speak on this?

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Chair Starkham members of the Commission. There are no other requests to speak on this item.

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So I'm like correct. We do not need a motion.

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Thank you.

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That brings us to information item number two. Why have that correct?

563
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Would you please read that item into the record?

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Chair, start members of the Commission.

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Information item number two is to receive and file status report regarding

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salt grant.

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Thank you.

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Chair and Commission.

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Great segue into the next item, right?

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To talk about that.

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So staff and our member partners, which we have a diverse working group working on that,

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has been working on this two-year grant program now.

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There are essentially four components of the grant, policy review, mapping, outreach and engagement,

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and then framework for an MLA.

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There's the main four components of work that we're trying to accomplish through this grant.

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The staff report provides a brief overview of the present accomplishments that we have made

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today. The next steps that we're looking to achieve in each one of those tasks and sub-tasks,

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the outreach and the mapping team, they are getting underway. As part of that effort, the

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outreach team has been holding one-on-one engagement meetings, trying to get a better understanding

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of what suggestions are out there from these groups, they intend to use that to help with

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their focus groups that they will embark on likely beginning in 2027 where larger group

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formats will be held and workshops will be held as well. As far as the policy review, we are

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hoping to wrap that policy review up by the end of the year, essentially what we are preparing

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is a large matrix of

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Policies that cover a broad set of topics that are important and remain to lafco and its decisions that it makes, and how it would tie to a future MOA should embark on that endeavor.

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And the goal here is to sort of align commonalities, identify any gaps, or inconsistencies on the way communities take that approach.

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And so we're assembling all of these policies. We're probably 85% there.

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We hope to complete it, convene some internal meetings amongst our partners and city representatives

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to make sure we've identified the right sets of policies under the right kind of categories

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of topics, and then we want to use this policy discussion to assist with both the mapping

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through and identifying important areas, either for protection or opportunities and allow

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the outreach team to use that policy base as an understanding when they engage with these

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focus groups.

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And lastly, once all that kind of is coming to a head and wrapping up, we will embark once

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again with our interested agencies, the cities in the county, on whether they want to continue

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to pursue an MLA for those that do, we'll embark on that effort, if there is no interest

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in that, what we will do is probably come back with a framework for how an MLA might look

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or work in case somebody wants to pick it up later down the road. That work likely won't

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happen until all that feedback comes to us and we start that dialogue between the cities and

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counties towards the end of this to your program.

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With that, that concludes where we're at currently with the grant, have there any other

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specific questions to have to answer any?

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Any questions or comments from commissioners?

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Commissioner Hartman, and did you want to say something, Commissioner Hartman first?

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I'll jump in first. So the mapping,

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I assume is concentrated around urban areas. So I wonder what is the band within which you're doing the mapping?

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00:57:35,220 --> 00:57:45,340
I understand that the land trust of Santa Barbara County has gotten some funding to add to this. The county is a whole, but what is this that we're adding to?

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00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:57,580
Yeah, so the area that we're focusing in on for mapping is 1.75 miles outside of the five cities that are really the focus of this effort.

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The five cities?

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Yeah, so five of the cities are wanting to expand their spheres.

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Okay. And look at that. Three of them were okay with the way their boundaries were.

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Those five cities is a city of Santa Maria, the city of Lampoke,

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the city of Bielton, the city of Solving, and the city of Calita.

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So the focus is in around 1.75 miles, in and around their existing city limits,

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and what are the constraints and opportunities within that 1.75 miles to expand future growth opportunities?

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Yeah, it seems to me that this will endure for longer than, I mean, I think additional cities

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may come up or even unincorporated townships.

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I sort of hate to see it limited just to the five that have requested.

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Yeah, the limit was essentially because of the allocation of the grant and the amount of time

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effort that it was going to take and so we chose the five most cities that we're seeing a need for

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that. But the intent is that the work that we do can be built upon, either another grant can be

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awarded or individual cities can take the work and the mapping effort and they can continue on

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as they see opportunities to serve. Or maybe the work that the land trust is doing would include

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some of that. So then the question becomes, well, what will the criteria be used to say this is good?

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And this is maybe not so good for development. And I imagine that's what your focus groups and

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outreach is getting into. From my perspective, just want to put it out there, the county is done

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mapping of groundwater recharge areas. So we know where they are, but we don't have any policies

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to really protect them, and that's key to really banking our water for.

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For times when we have droughts. So for me, that's a high priority. So I just wanted to get it out there. Thank you.

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01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:17,280
Thank you. Thank you. I want to go back to the first point that a Super Commissioner Hartman made, because I shared some of those concerns.

631
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For me, I see a nexus between some of the recent decisions by this commission to invest more in our staff resources and the corresponding capacity created by that.

632
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To me, I see there's a real opportunity here to embrace this process more fully.

633
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:43,360
I wanted to provide that feedback because I was a little bit surprised that we were so limited in scope.

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:49,740
this wasn't something I saw as like a pilot project or a partial project for part of the

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01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:53,980
county, at least in terms of the way I thought we had communicated that when we were under

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consideration for the funding. So I'd like to see, I'd like to see a line between how we

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kind of sold this program to the funder and some of our other policy decisions to invest

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to efforts. So if there's a way to still kind of steer this back towards a broader effort,

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,660
that's something I would be supportive of. I know this is an informational item and we're not

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agenda is for action, but I didn't want to let this opportunity pass to provide that feedback.

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I'm not pointing fingers, I just think there's a broader opportunity here.

642
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,360
Thank you. Are there further questions from commissioners?

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Is there any interest from the

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01:01:35,470 --> 01:01:45,170
public in it speaking on the side? Chair Stark, can you please identify yourself and

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01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:04,480
I'm a member of this community, how you all doing today.

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01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,660
Thank you.

647
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:13,840
Well, thank you for allowing me to speak briefly.

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Again, my name is Victor Truheo and I'm here to formally place my participation in the

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I-Livist and Corporation discussion on public record on August 17th, I received an

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from LAFCO staff stating that the Commission had requested a featured

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gender item to review current incorporation efforts and inviting me to prepare

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brief write up and speak out of feature meeting.

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That message is also shared with ILOVIST as CSD leadership.

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I've brought printed copies of that email for the record.

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I understand the item is not agenda dies today, and I respect the Commission's

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process. However, ILOVIST as governance has historically received

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01:02:57,020 --> 01:03:02,060
heightened scrutiny. I've reflected in past municipal service review discussions because

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incorporation activities was referenced as an upcoming topic. I want to ensure that

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I love this does incorporation and feasibility is handled transparently and that the community

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:19,640
participation is included from the beginning. I also recognize that LFCL is currently engaged in

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broader regional planning work, including spirit of influence updates and coordination of the

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in the city governments and the significant federal funding flowing into UCSB's research infrastructure.

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These developments make it even more important that I-Livist as governance feature be addressed

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openly and with clear expectations. I'm prepared to provide materials once the item is formally

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scheduled and once the scope expectations and the use of my work are clearly established.

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For now, I simply want to affirm my continued involvement and respectfully request that I-Livist

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incorporation be placed on a future agenda so the community can participate in the discussion.

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01:03:59,060 --> 01:04:02,820
Thank you for a time, Victor Trello. Thank you, Mr. Truveo.

669
01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:13,320
I think that was your public comment.

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01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Is that my correct? Yeah, I'm still in

671
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love. It's open to the public. You certainly welcome to attend.

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I just wonder if we could ask our executive officer if you could elaborate a little bit on the

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corporation in I-Livista. I don't think it's any time soon but with the process would be

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or just give a better sense of that. Yeah, the commission has requested a future agenda item

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on the status of not only I-Livista but a lot of reason.

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And so we are working with either the chief proponents that have solicited interest in that and the districts that they would affect.

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To coordinate some sort of status update to return, we anticipated that likely November are likely December timeframe in order to coordinate all of those folks and be able to put something together.

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And in that report, I would outline the journal process of what it takes to incorporate.

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01:05:30,830 --> 01:05:32,030
There are two different processes.

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I can briefly tell the commission right now either a chief proponent.

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01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:42,530
That means a resident of the area can file a notice of intent to incorporate an area.

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In which case after that notice of intent is received by my office.

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affected agencies are notified of that process.

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They are afforded the opportunity to go out and seek signatures to obtain the threshold needed,

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which is at least 25% of the area of the boundary in which they choose to incorporate.

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Along with that are a number of components that need to be documented, so that

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The signers of that petition understand the complexities of what that request entail, and that's why they need to file that notice of intent so that I can explain that in detail to chief practitioners.

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The second version is an affected agency, like IVCSD, or one of the other CSDs of Penelope

689
01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:44,310
Rismod, Vanderberg Village area, they can file through a resolution of application.

690
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:50,590
That resolution of application follows, generally, the same process, after file a notice

691
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:58,090
of intent, get instructions from the EOS office about what they need to document before

692
01:06:58,090 --> 01:07:05,970
a formally adopt a resolution to proceed on incorporation proceedings, the step that they don't

693
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:13,810
have to do is go out and get signatures. They act on behalf of their constituents, and so they

694
01:07:13,810 --> 01:07:21,470
can just file directly with our office. But from that, there's a whole host of requirements that

695
01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:28,710
needed documentation that is involved. I'll brief the commission in my report about what

696
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:33,310
that process looks like from a very high-level review.

697
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:39,150
Thank you.

698
01:07:40,610 --> 01:07:42,030
Sure, if short

699
01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:53,950
I would like to add, I have everything absolutely ready, data, research and one

700
01:07:53,950 --> 01:07:58,330
thing. I'm not requesting any type of funding. I do not need funding.

701
01:07:58,330 --> 01:08:02,870
I know and understand business and strategic planning.

702
01:08:03,810 --> 01:08:09,130
So, the way my models operate are unseen currently in our county's footprint.

703
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,000
So, the business entity that would be forming and structuring in Eilivista

704
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,860
is not formally structured in our county.

705
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:22,860
It's through a different structure.

706
01:08:26,710 --> 01:08:27,930
I think I understand you.

707
01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:31,590
I would encourage you, whatever research you develop,

708
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:35,730
communicate with our executive officers

709
01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:42,050
so that we have the information that's necessary for us to do what we have to do under the

710
01:08:42,790 --> 01:08:43,350
statutes.

711
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:44,530
Awesome, thank you.

712
01:08:44,730 --> 01:08:49,230
It's definitely time and time for me to go to.

713
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:53,030
It's my daughter's 10th birthday, but thank you all for having me.

714
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:53,930
God bless you.

715
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:55,070
Happy birthday to her.

716
01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:56,090
Thank you.

717
01:08:56,970 --> 01:08:57,570
Thank you.

718
01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:12,330
So, do we keep a list of interested parties so that, for example, we know Mr. Tahoe was interested in this hearing, and we would make sure he got notice of it?

719
01:09:13,210 --> 01:09:19,770
We do, and you can file on that directly through our website on any interested notifications of our future agenda.

720
01:09:19,770 --> 01:09:20,470
I have a

721
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:24,540
question.

722
01:09:24,860 --> 01:09:25,860
Commissioner Service.

723
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:34,000
My recollection was the future agenda item was to cover their discussion, the district's

724
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:39,580
discussion, on annexation of additional property, not in corporation.

725
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:47,660
They wanted to bring in the UCSB housing over on most scenarios, which is not currently

726
01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:48,740
within their jurisdiction.

727
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,180
Am I confused on that?

728
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:59,660
Commissioner Savise through the chair. The future agenda request was on incorporations, not annexation.

729
01:09:59,840 --> 01:09:59,960
Okay.

730
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:12,820
And given that the district themselves have proceeded with a feasibility study, so they are considering what it might take.

731
01:10:13,060 --> 01:10:23,860
They haven't formally taken any action. Parallel to that, we have a resident that has requested that they be a chief practitioner.

732
01:10:23,860 --> 01:10:27,600
And so either form could come before the commission.

733
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,740
And so I'm working with all parties to understand,

734
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,360
what is it?

735
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:34,560
Is there overlap?

736
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Does this need to reside with one or the other

737
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,380
as the main proponent for a teacher

738
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:45,020
of incorporation activity?

739
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,360
And so that's the purpose of,

740
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:50,320
is to really kind of sit down and understand

741
01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:52,900
Where is everybody at?

742
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,320
Where are they trying to accomplish?

743
01:10:54,580 --> 01:10:57,080
Are there across purposes or there are different purposes?

744
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,280
There may be conflicting applications down the road,

745
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:03,240
in which case the commission would have to make a determination

746
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,160
on moving forward with one or the other.

747
01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:09,260
And so there's a whole set of processes that are involved.

748
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,060
And we're just trying to understand who's interested in incorporating.

749
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,260
And none of us who's interested in incorporating

750
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:18,160
in the Vanneburg Village Missing Hills area.

751
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:25,300
What efforts are you working on for that end so that the commission and staff can get an understanding of

752
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:28,270
that?

753
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:29,270
Thank you.

754
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:31,610
I take it in no action.

755
01:11:31,810 --> 01:11:34,530
It's necessary for us on this particular item.

756
01:11:35,090 --> 01:11:38,950
It brings us to information item number three.

757
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:41,410
Would you please read that into the record.

758
01:11:41,650 --> 01:11:42,230
Madam Clerk.

759
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,840
Chair, start give members of the commission.

760
01:11:47,020 --> 01:11:51,400
Information item number three is to receive and file a report on the Kalapko update.

761
01:11:52,940 --> 01:11:54,400
Mr. Prater.

762
01:11:55,060 --> 01:11:55,520
Thank you, Chair.

763
01:11:56,740 --> 01:12:02,660
So this is informed the commission that CalLafco Board met in August and they directed

764
01:12:02,660 --> 01:12:07,240
a by-laws change to the organizational documents.

765
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:14,280
They also heard a number of reports from various committees that were established, most notably

766
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:22,020
the Finance Committee and the finance and dues committee that was formed, so they are embarking

767
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:25,640
on whether they need to evaluate news or not.

768
01:12:26,180 --> 01:12:28,660
And if so, what would that look like?

769
01:12:29,380 --> 01:12:33,360
The restructuring group gave a presentation to the board.

770
01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:37,840
They made a recommendation, which was to not change the original

771
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,940
four regional boundaries.

772
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,680
But to keep the recommendation in mind, as they move forward

773
01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:47,620
through a dues evaluation through that committee.

774
01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:56,800
And so this is just to give the commission a reminder that the by-law changes would require

775
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:03,280
a vote of each of the lawfcos, each of the sitting lawfcos that are members, at their annual

776
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,680
conference in Sacramento and October.

777
01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:13,150
You have appointed your executive officer as the voting delegate commissioner Johnson as the

778
01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:20,150
it, delegate, and so we will represent the commission on passing those bylaws or not.

779
01:13:20,350 --> 01:13:25,490
The commission had any preference. You can indicate that to either of us have a discussion

780
01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:31,910
here under this item and we'll take the appropriate action that follows you. With that,

781
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:34,770
that concludes our update for Califco.

782
01:13:35,250 --> 01:13:40,970
Thank you, any commissioner or questions or comments about this? I would assume that you can have

783
01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:46,010
Some kind of place over on the October agenda, in case anybody has any direction to you,

784
01:13:46,530 --> 01:13:48,970
or a Commissioner Johnson about us.

785
01:13:50,270 --> 01:13:50,990
We will.

786
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:58,050
Is there anybody from the public wishes to speak on the Calif go by laws?

787
01:13:59,330 --> 01:14:00,990
Chair Stark and members of the Commission.

788
01:14:01,370 --> 01:14:03,150
There are no requests to speak on this item.

789
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:05,170
Thank you.

790
01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:07,830
We don't need to take any action on an object.

791
01:14:08,890 --> 01:14:09,270
Thank you.

792
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:13,350
That next item, if I would correct, is commissioner announcements.

793
01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:19,490
We have any commissioner announcements or requests for future agenda items.

794
01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:36,010
I think I should say I had a conversation with a commissioner concerning the question of stipends.

795
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:47,860
And I would think I would leave it up to the executive officer as to whether we want

796
01:14:47,860 --> 01:14:56,240
bring it back. There's an existing by law. It's policy that concerns it was adopted. I believe

797
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,380
in 2021.

798
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:11,200
Okay, my understanding takes a vote of the commission to bring it on the agenda for formal action, unless you want to put it on your own for briefing.

799
01:15:12,780 --> 01:15:21,600
Yeah, I mean, I had a similar conversation that it has been sometimes since the commission's stipend has been evaluated.

800
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:33,980
And whether or not there's interest to re-look at that topic, amend the commissioner handbook that deals with stipends and pay for activities.

801
01:15:35,860 --> 01:15:40,280
If there are any specifics that the commissioners want staff to look at,

802
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:45,400
our preferences is that you guide us to examples of what you want us to look at.

803
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,080
If that is in fact an item you want us to spend time on.

804
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:56,260
Otherwise, it would not be a future gen item, and we would just move on.

805
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:01,920
Well, if any commissioner wants to, if to, for a follow-up on this, they should present.

806
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,720
No, I think it's information to you.

807
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:10,280
I think today is the time where we want consensus of at least four commissioners that want staff

808
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:15,080
to spend time on looking into increasing commissioner stipends.

809
01:16:16,910 --> 01:16:18,290
I'll make sure you're carry out.

810
01:16:18,650 --> 01:16:25,410
This is not necessarily a vote to re-examine it, but I guess some feedback is if we choose

811
01:16:25,410 --> 01:16:29,990
to examine it, my suggestion would be that we choose to examine it in a way that's aligned

812
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:32,230
with the next time we do our budget,

813
01:16:34,690 --> 01:16:37,350
but I'm not specifically advocating that we should

814
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:38,390
revisit the compensation.

815
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:42,010
I would want to hear more discussion before I would be open to that.

816
01:16:42,910 --> 01:16:49,590
My recollection and I would add my recollection is that at one point, last or one of the

817
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:57,090
last times we did it, there was an ad hoc committee that reported to the Commission on the subject

818
01:16:57,090 --> 01:17:03,790
and compared what was going on and other things, that's something that we could take up in future.

819
01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:09,150
Commissioner Johns?

820
01:17:09,150 --> 01:17:18,750
It might be interesting to kind of follow up with kind of the history when the last one was initiated as far as

821
01:17:18,750 --> 01:17:25,190
changes and then also the prior because I think I like to see if it could be balanced maybe with the other

822
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:30,250
Lathcos what they have done as well because I think in a way

823
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:37,090
It's been some time from maybe the history, but be good to follow that through. Thank you

824
01:17:40,350 --> 01:17:40,690
Chair

825
01:17:42,010 --> 01:17:46,010
My brief straw poll, as I've got three commissioners,

826
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:51,250
Cariaco, Johnson, and start of interest.

827
01:17:51,570 --> 01:17:52,390
We've got one more.

828
01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:54,630
We'll put it in a future agenda item,

829
01:17:55,070 --> 01:17:58,530
and we'll have to come back with more specificity

830
01:17:59,130 --> 01:18:02,450
on what it is you want us to study precisely.

831
01:18:03,790 --> 01:18:05,670
That's where my head count is right now.

832
01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:06,790
I'll just reiterate.

833
01:18:07,150 --> 01:18:09,390
I'm not expressing interest in adjusting the competency.

834
01:18:09,390 --> 01:18:15,170
And I'm simply saying if the commission decides that's something they want, that it should be done within the context of the budget.

835
01:18:15,610 --> 01:18:32,370
I would clarify that the first thing that we should decide if you would bring it back is the process that we might use to accurately do this in the timing that we would follow.

836
01:18:32,370 --> 01:18:42,670
I'm inclined to agree with Commissioner Curiocos that some correlation with a budget would be in or.

837
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:49,450
Okay, so it sounds like not a future agenda item today, but maybe as we get closer to budget.

838
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:52,470
If I come back, that sounds right to me.

839
01:18:52,670 --> 01:19:01,850
And then the commissioner will decide if it wants to have an ad hoc committee or some other form to look and evaluate this.

840
01:19:01,850 --> 01:19:04,410
I think that's what I'm hearing.

841
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:06,150
Sounds good to me.

842
01:19:09,370 --> 01:19:10,850
Any other commissioner announcements?

843
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,280
That would bring us to executive officer comments.

844
01:19:19,700 --> 01:19:20,920
I have no for the comments.

845
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:22,420
No comments.

846
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,100
Then I'm happy to wish you all a happy Labor Day

847
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:30,780
and adjourn the meeting to Thursday October 1,

848
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:31,960
2026.